From sfraves-return-151559-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Nov 01 23:41:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10878 invoked by uid 1103); 1 Nov 2009 23:41:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10859 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2009 23:41:48 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=wWYbpo2fJ3E7LIfnPOuYollOt8EQjbA0H7g5/g/cnME=; b=OE8dqLzhc8R3GeU21Nb0/utTapts6290NOnsKuAaEIE+OcZ7JUV+AG2d2WUblea1Kd vIIEH91l/vNe4EeLrdODy4Eez3TsgnTGfiUkRq89dbZYtWJdNi6yxbYM031CDzjD7rLX gds975yYSFWRVhEP3ZVtlGVakPwR8XaCh2djs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xCOLNiecYQau+ilmqUPA13wbLn96X7imHvwntigIhPIB3AzFX5p1gwbw6DK3k7gnsP 0h3scBOirVl6broRYVG7xTOLzDHgx6DgmT/bi3nKLY3mDUkVsYd4hp72PaKZlc+2Snfs YvsAthk/JeRFeh6gCiOVjPqryvsNCb6ejzY1M= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:42:32 -0800 Message-ID: <9d67351d0911011542x1fc17872yd257ef1756d2ff7@mail.gmail.com> From: Bruce Davis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6dab0fd9bd88c047757d061 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] New dn'b track! --0016e6dab0fd9bd88c047757d061 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fresh off the press this morning. 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Need to talk to one of y'all regarding copyright. :D Well not really, but it has to do with a name used by you in the past... Please get at me. -- kekekekeke =[^.^]= zomg!!111 kekekekeke This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-email and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151562-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 02 18:39:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86009 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Nov 2009 18:39:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85989 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2009 18:39:04 -0000 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: From: Jas Strong To: Sean G In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 10:39:43 -0800 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dragn'Fly or Amber That'll be trademarks, then, not copyright. -J. On 2 Nov 2009, at 10:36, Sean G wrote: > Paging... Need to talk to one of y'all regarding copyright. :D Well > not really, but it has to do with a name used by you in the past... > Please get at me. > > -- > kekekekeke > =[^.^]= zomg!!111 > kekekekeke > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the > addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based > on this message or any information herein. If you have received this > message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply > e-email and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151563-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 02 19:03:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16867 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Nov 2009 19:03:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 16851 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2009 19:03:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=x+mZDNQQaqM0GXKUQQlPTmWGoVa4H14UBhC2VSQ8C3A=; b=AnkEZ+pfhu77q1oQJsEcxSpDOu6YgOE07/qJIgtvfokXc+GlPjAgw3/o1MOlNVHi18 JOi0F9AYOzM7J9QYUfJcICaHhKq/DT6nRZhsi5WTSFbqSZjHyPnCMBXTkXHqLXuL9ihv KjJFfxwrg2opvxMqsPCoVt9NgOGCT2gpJ9F/Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ha1te1+8f+rAmH0rMC7SX1ncKbpfUtKIhPXsNUEtrlHlCtMgpjeCUs63SbaU9lH0zx wMzLlMsbrAs3b54OgLi8V7XOpnPTJKPb94YAL7rgsyBLDyLJLt1n8okgnjCwPm3oP128 HLPG/ClWFQWm7VaVSHVew/T+37FDT7LLCeKo4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 11:03:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: Sean G To: Jas Strong Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Dragn'Fly or Amber Thank you for your most illuminating correction. :P :D On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Jas Strong wrote: > That'll be trademarks, then, not copyright. > > -J. > > On 2 Nov 2009, at 10:36, Sean G wrote: > >> Paging... Need to talk to one of y'all regarding copyright. :D Well >> not really, but it has to do with a name used by you in the past... >> Please get at me. >> >> -- >> kekekekeke >> =[^.^]= zomg!!111 >> kekekekeke >> >> This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. >> If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the >> addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based >> on this message or any information herein. If you have received this >> message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply >> e-email and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > -- kekekekeke =[^.^]= zomg!!111 kekekekeke This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.423 / Virus Database: 270.14.39/2468 - Release Date: 10/29/09 19:49:00 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151565-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 00:28:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75863 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 00:28:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75847 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 00:28:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=R6pndCzamaq+2V4u2nv8bVp2/KMYvif+nhre2IYfg6s=; b=p80KjGwKDhK58ViLVO1hroHxAvDRyeysRysyZci8az1USmrtG70xT0FO6/UYKBnPyV VVzdc3ojuXO6s+oiri6s6bGSMCwUufOptbndBb4VITKjsNysskFhlE07nc2orNp1Ut/D 5M7HOszmfbyGG+9rTTYhgiK0cI7NTTvFKDcrg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=R2wDYDIVDWJFk6LcGDqukNH2aBdiTdOQEBg6Oto/2OClE+0D9Xf8eLUGWU8ePQa/PF qFxeysm5RvUHVFcLe8rCcUwMw4scFFMkCpbThBh5Kj/2T9YuH9Thxzo0mMbx8/sDBGMK nF57M+gs5gmB/DKqmPMVtZesa/JA4ZeLD03LQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 16:29:34 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd150dca2e35904776c96e5 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Grill --000e0cd150dca2e35904776c96e5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pretty funny riff on Groove here (http://www.spike.com/video/grill/427879) I think Digmeat is the funniest part. --000e0cd150dca2e35904776c96e5-- From sfraves-return-151566-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 01:52:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42519 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 01:52:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42502 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 01:52:32 -0000 X-Originating-IP: [67.188.228.55] X-Originating-Email: [aaronjet9@hotmail.co.uk] Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: sfraves@hyperreal.org From: Aaron Stevens Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 17:53:11 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Nov 2009 01:53:17.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[699E9C10:01CA5C28] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Hey Hey! Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would be some good programs to get. Thanks, Aaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151567-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 02:24:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64739 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 02:24:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64721 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 02:24:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WI3zKzi6UV8F/Hb84Jd8XKKMZblu9VCZX+uOP3iHu6k=; b=XU7auow4S7xrkYjpJF1cIeJRp22Q1ZvFxyV70DgwbA7+ZGKe5IeWASYZHYGWqPqx8T gmCcMq3t3b+KCYiVd+nQTqsxBmlea1OICXykHUy9jAO+Dg+QEEjaiiRF4u0wEmyJ/+jO nJrrjzJNFQO+4xMqJM8oGVgjdZ1zn/Qhbk7Lo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=lZiXRxSqP9WOy0of1Z6z1GjM1OKQhcZTyrzjU+RAIYOOidjB9TeoYZoqWBKkLysnHn dZHed99+U+aCB9HzLLOo5J5maTQkmcJtTpZyvUwQuE1nW0Ygc3euEGqr9tmRBlCEX/KR 5ad+E5kAgsyk4YN6Js5QZWwIIW8N4M7BDYSlk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:24:52 -0800 Message-ID: From: Lazlo Steele To: Aaron Stevens , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1f7abff136804776e325a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --001636e1f7abff136804776e325a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Reason 4. It has a pretty steep learning curve but can produce some phenomenal results. It essentially recreates a hardware setup and gives you the ability to create unlimited synthesizers, samplers and drum machines, it has a pretty large library of effect devises too. The only reason I wouldn't recommend it for beginners is that it doesn't have a particularly strong pre-made sounds library and it doesn't use VSTs, but the trade-off is spectacular power in making your own synths/samples/effects. I'd also try and pick up a copy of ReWire (it's sooo handy for using multiple DAWs), ReCycle (really good sampling software), Renoise (if you're into sequencers) and Protools (with Massey plug-ins) for mastering. That's a lot to use when you're starting out though, I'd just recommend messing around on reason for a while before you start using multiple DAWs. As far as hardware goes, get a keyboard. If you can, get a M-Audio Axiom. It's a very nice keyboard with (I think) 32, 49, and 64 keys respectively. The Axiom 49 is what I use and it has some nice MP-type pads, a bunch of programmable nobs, buttons and levers. It's made life so much easier for me. So there you go, first things first: get reason 4 (legally of course, ;) ) and a keyboard. That should provide enough power to make music for years (hell, that's still what I mostly use). If you have any questions about Reason or music in general, I know a bit. Don't hesitate to email me. Peace, -Lazlo PS. Hope that helped. On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: > Hey! > Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into making > electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would be some good > programs to get. > Thanks, > Aaron > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > -- "The times in which a stranger provided for you what a mother never could. And how you felt walking away from your new friend whom you will never meet again in this life." -Hannah Kargol --001636e1f7abff136804776e325a-- From sfraves-return-151568-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 02:34:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71971 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 02:34:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71953 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 02:34:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=DOT3oSeS2FZTQ6mcdOop8fvCK+8Dx/cetCj3h8/AO+Y=; b=e9IRV0IPtOb42HOtWbbVgtcp2/f+3H9iTy6XBj3GgqtoA8+vHKOmnj7ttwtSoDtnsd bkBp9cPUg/J+JPg1TAcwiPqOcJHiMqDDZJQR8AVDS1V/ORbxO6/8ysjft9iUrqFgKbaI pQC4yzdIrmVR0mCVvBMz7g4+B5EPUEoAPJ88k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=Tcr0zLjum3as3EJSbfMPFD8GXclE4wG3h+VhdTcusgy8t15WhHHhEbdS63ABs8lQPA Sl/e18026444oxvc8vwRpsVWHB0/oVn9IorP1PAWb9gYu7X9A20EZS6y7LWlPPP9YJQa RA2R54+HVQErZrTi/lPE9zRqCGsi7TngS3jOM= References: Message-Id: From: Justin Pincar To: Lazlo Steele In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7D11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7D11) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 18:34:57 -0800 Cc: Aaron Stevens , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey I've never used reason 4, but I find fruity loops really easy and fun to use. Also, I have an m-audio keystation 88es and I love it. -Justin On Nov 2, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Lazlo Steele wrote: > Reason 4. It has a pretty steep learning curve but can produce some > phenomenal results. It essentially recreates a hardware setup and > gives you > the ability to create unlimited synthesizers, samplers and drum > machines, it > has a pretty large library of effect devises too. The only reason I > wouldn't > recommend it for beginners is that it doesn't have a particularly > strong > pre-made sounds library and it doesn't use VSTs, but the trade-off is > spectacular power in making your own synths/samples/effects. > > I'd also try and pick up a copy of ReWire (it's sooo handy for using > multiple DAWs), ReCycle (really good sampling software), Renoise (if > you're > into sequencers) and Protools (with Massey plug-ins) for mastering. > That's a > lot to use when you're starting out though, I'd just recommend messing > around on reason for a while before you start using multiple DAWs. > > As far as hardware goes, get a keyboard. If you can, get a M-Audio > Axiom. > It's a very nice keyboard with (I think) 32, 49, and 64 keys > respectively. > The Axiom 49 is what I use and it has some nice MP-type pads, a > bunch of > programmable nobs, buttons and levers. It's made life so much easier > for me. > > So there you go, first things first: get reason 4 (legally of > course, ;) ) > and a keyboard. That should provide enough power to make music for > years > (hell, that's still what I mostly use). If you have any questions > about > Reason or music in general, I know a bit. Don't hesitate to email me. > > Peace, > -Lazlo > > PS. Hope that helped. > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens > wrote: > >> Hey! >> Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into >> making >> electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would be >> some good >> programs to get. >> Thanks, >> Aaron >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > -- > "The times in which a stranger provided for you what a mother never > could. > And how you felt walking away from your new friend whom you will > never meet > again in this life." > -Hannah Kargol --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151569-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 03:13:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1195 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 03:13:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1173 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 03:13:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257218058; bh=z9HsaJGj5itgb+We81uYOmieWIM4Obqw0/3Ek1Y6im8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e+iVdFNUm5BfkK9rG/ejCZ4PNbQA0qphsCQaIDou6JayLKftfJN5dHysoo9Lh/DkSZzfR7Z8kG2VvmzAaHIlRsKEjqlO+d4xQEGxWW9ZCo3GbVprPXHxqyPHkP+saZmEuU887qVQGBunwWLrW0AwTCDXSSApNVnG4AK2VutGBRY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kWrpmQTi7n+jB+pOMPACX6tU0mWDEUSmooWUDqEEB2DbF7P9KlYY4LSqM+rlwj1srVxBcUsevAKsKcvjHvR/Lsm6b8XQCZjCQXFJiSBmGmnwuPReEUG/8cJ7o/b3RSjii4H2U6Zdz7zJSc/ZSlAtpiQigGtUFWm8h85HrGD7UIA=; Message-ID: <545231.15615.qm@web36303.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uJMkx9IVM1mMAHoGBIKGk4SvRNXiwmOeUVD.Sac4ImvHZImKjHnMt.bGAqN5NVzeocqwd7WhAi1QBwebhI5BXJJyM5kvuL4KP.c4PaWArvpOFnvUAuYunlVBuwMakrKbyLoQujdal8iP23aGHt9hXM6TgpkzDb0D80PEzocRE0_U6IPZBe.XYTo7NSVuhC45QNkt4uf4S.WYHtoOQUqPZ2bNYCpny7rfPt8cmowIQ6KUAUgz3.y6N23_psuAdjHW9Rk73YO2Fy0LswwYgQlszdZ8tMqOsh7_iaS8EsLpdfy7QiALvD7G32..fA34OVEFYihpKUiWfgyrn2PZ6SocI9FaT2kVaooio7XPlHX4MytG_l6Q5id.wyqYSIGtsqOvLPWcDu4fOW9ON68dIGtAGWT2C206.VfEiQdtpp3Djke9StEuE9OIiAlxW6Jv X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 References: Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:14:18 -0800 (PST) From: Amanda Mikaelsson To: Aaron Stevens Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1400218609-1257218058=:15615" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --0-1400218609-1257218058=:15615 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Logic and ProTools are the best. I go to a music school and study electronic music, in all of our studios we have Logic and Protools. I love Logic, but it is only made for a mac and I have a pc. I almost want to switch from pc to mac just for Logic. It can do some awesome stuff. There are tutorials and videos online if you need help using it. It has a ton of sounds and samples to get started. Digital Perfomer is a good program too. Reason and Fruity Loops are limited, not anything special, just toys... I have both, and I like them because they are fun to mess around with, but not that good for making some nice music. You also run into a lot of copywrite issues with Reason and Fruity Loops, so you cant even use their sample libraries. Dont get Reason if you are trying to make serious music. Get Logic! or protools Amanda M. ________________________________ From: Aaron Stevens To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 5:53:11 PM Subject: [sfraves] Hey Hey! Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would be some good programs to get. Thanks, Aaron --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --0-1400218609-1257218058=:15615-- From sfraves-return-151570-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 03:33:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14119 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 03:33:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14103 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 03:33:15 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com From: orotoro To: Aaron Stevens In-Reply-To: References: Message-Id: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 19:33:56 -0800 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey get an eigenharp: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Laq2788EE On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: > Hey! > Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into > making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would > be some good programs to get. > Thanks, > Aaron > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151571-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 03:50:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25390 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 03:50:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25368 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 03:50:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> References: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: <42a0b30f0911021951m2c842269qd5c3c9fbf4e73521@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: orotoro Cc: Aaron Stevens , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd25492b5690d04776f6770 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --000e0cd25492b5690d04776f6770 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 too faddish. stick with the classic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb8VoPs6S_c On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:33 PM, orotoro wrote: > get an eigenharp: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Laq2788EE > > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: > > Hey! >> Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into making >> electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would be some good >> programs to get. >> Thanks, >> Aaron >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd25492b5690d04776f6770-- From sfraves-return-151572-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 04:21:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44746 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 04:21:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44729 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 04:21:28 -0000 From: orotoro To: Ray Wong In-Reply-To: <42a0b30f0911021951m2c842269qd5c3c9fbf4e73521@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) References: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> <42a0b30f0911021951m2c842269qd5c3c9fbf4e73521@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16--257950910 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 20:22:02 -0800 Cc: Aaron Stevens , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --Apple-Mail-16--257950910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cp932; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable eigenharp or something just like it is gonna b huge =F0J '0ro+or0' =F6=DC On Nov 2, 2009, at 19:51, Ray Wong wrote: > too faddish. stick with the classic: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dzb8VoPs6S_c > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:33 PM, orotoro =20 > wrote: > get an eigenharp: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY3Laq2788EE > > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: > > Hey! > Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into =20 > making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would =20= > be some good programs to get. > Thanks, > Aaron > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --Apple-Mail-16--257950910-- From sfraves-return-151573-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 04:50:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64023 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 04:50:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63999 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 04:50:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=W/JvMoQXO73V9DzaNG1sKBj2dRqRbfnoxK30qwSQVSw=; b=r0Sr++YcBLEf2s+EMGiuXC2IOaF8mrQTKf2axIyHkuxqnvdt3dEWXKSAbSVaWhAxBH XyCWEE4SUHOiC8wiNECLgdx/wpgEFBkfB75+PCwK3wP9gbHcZnBPxd0CoNYMktoxoUYf YFK1mFXUuW7PSUWNdlbiBSt9kR6PJXzSa3wf8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=pFYuMuE3mRQ0pyA41wK2ZQ8gD+j6KkPZqkYEYeklGL5fWrMEoKqRhG3hY+5TlapkwD 0bLK7SZ5MmJixF6JatUswu/FAjQD3OFVNUQcwDfeueQLNCX5FTUh8qz/z9yWpPYMCTz/ QFvNyRZE/6FhgvIw6EcMER4xqpzedOKWDDb98= Message-ID: <4AEFB6B3.5080500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:50:59 -0800 From: Sean Ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: orotoro CC: Ray Wong , Aaron Stevens , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" References: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> <42a0b30f0911021951m2c842269qd5c3c9fbf4e73521@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey to me the eigenharp looks alot like the toy guitars in the 90s you could plug preprogramed stuff into and as long as you hit the keys and strings in time to the beat you could rearrange dire straits' money for nothing or something. the future of music seems to me more like a theramin style holographic gui where you can manipulate software in a 3d space with instruments you create on your own in reaktor or max msp. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PguNPIXfnOs) use of holography in this context would entertain an audience better than a guy hunched over his laptop or someone projecting what's on screen while he uses a midi controller. similar to monolake's demonstration in 5.1 surround at the old asphodel compound. how's that for your mind phuck? visual artists/musicians manipulating 3d time and space to make sounds like you've never heard/seen before. as to answer the young boy's question sans snark.. the top programs out there are reason, ableton, reaktor, and logic. and although people swear by them on their own, i think that its the combination of live gear (keyboards drum machines + real compressor/gates) as well as software that makes electronic music sound awesome. i've found there's always been this subtle tension between digital and analog and the struggle between the two that makes music and contemporary art really fascinating. respect, sean. orotoro wrote: > eigenharp or something just like it is gonna b huge > > �J '0ro+or0' �� > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 19:51, Ray Wong wrote: > >> too faddish. stick with the classic: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb8VoPs6S_c >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:33 PM, orotoro >> wrote: >> get an eigenharp: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Laq2788EE >> >> >> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: >> >> Hey! >> Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into >> making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would >> be some good programs to get. >> Thanks, >> Aaron >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151574-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 06:45:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41443 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 06:45:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 41422 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 06:45:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tK7b+E55Bu9k/8Ak+e2BbEdcDDu6gcGXFsSY+MkaZ3E=; b=ICD/9kEYIQpTziEMz1SYX62L/IJMXbzzrh9SXcMjDHEiL0IHiPSZE427IoYM5qsWbw XXsgqL11FdoGn0g6oQJOpsQT4KKqKp2YPb5UasEhHD5Eh9aLwBW6DcEHVq/jruwg0Msl FHmThiz/LiBsm/1N8CIyQS+KEREMOYZVx1+i4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=Jpqez5DGnpupemHRBeGx4J75OutRdTFeTm44Tchq2Y3brw2dIZOTdWPwhb5KsoHLwT 9pC1X85Xe08qdFTl+dHQqwBdQFR6fdjossVm0e6vkxOMvUWwKhtq3cK+L+0F/IIUH+KL z31TdsSPTdHJOwn0D7v14pTu0XYVu1XJf2tHQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4AEFB6B3.5080500@gmail.com> References: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> <42a0b30f0911021951m2c842269qd5c3c9fbf4e73521@mail.gmail.com> <4AEFB6B3.5080500@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 22:46:15 -0800 Message-ID: <96e151a20911022246r3788469emf9b073252fb53f72@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Osteen To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f6c732c4269f047771d974 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --001485f6c732c4269f047771d974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nothing beats having a good combination of gear. BUT if you are creative enough you can use anything. Don't become a gear nut and waste all your tim= e searching and buying gear. Just get a basic DAW that you can sequence and record on and you can get started. My vote for Mac is vision, but that tell= s you how long it's been since I produced on a mac. Yeah, go Logic. Also, depending on the type of music you plan on producing, get involved with user forums and stuff like that. When I was big into producing I was o= n a couple specific forums for progressive/trance producers and got a lot of suggestions and help from others. Some friends I made on there became prett= y big time producers. You could be too. Oh, one other thing, if you are short on money, but want to get into production, sign up for an electronic music class at your local community college. Some have pretty decent studios and you can get plenty of access only having to pay for the class. Steve On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:50 PM, Sean Ocean wrote= : > to me the eigenharp looks alot like the toy guitars in the 90s you could > plug preprogramed stuff into and as long as you hit the keys and strings = in > time to the beat you could rearrange dire straits' money for nothing or > something. > > the future of music seems to me more like a theramin style holographic gu= i > where you can manipulate software in a 3d space with instruments you crea= te > on your own in reaktor or max msp. ( > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPguNPIXfnOs) use of holography in this > context would entertain an audience better than a guy hunched over his > laptop or someone projecting what's on screen while he uses a midi > controller. similar to monolake's demonstration in 5.1 surround at the ol= d > asphodel compound. > > how's that for your mind phuck? visual artists/musicians manipulating 3d > time and space to make sounds like you've never heard/seen before. > > as to answer the young boy's question sans snark.. the top programs out > there are reason, ableton, reaktor, and logic. and although people swear = by > them on their own, i think that its the combination of live gear (keyboar= ds > drum machines + real compressor/gates) as well as software that makes > electronic music sound awesome. i've found there's always been this subtl= e > tension between digital and analog and the struggle between the two that > makes music and contemporary art really fascinating. > > respect, > sean. > > > orotoro wrote: > >> eigenharp or something just like it is gonna b huge >> >> =EF=BF=BDJ '0ro+or0' =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD >> >> >> On Nov 2, 2009, at 19:51, Ray Wong wrote: >> >> too faddish. stick with the classic: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dzb8VoPs6S_c >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:33 PM, orotoro >>> wrote: >>> get an eigenharp: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY3Laq2788EE >>> >>> >>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: >>> >>> Hey! >>> Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into making >>> electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would be some go= od >>> programs to get. >>> Thanks, >>> Aaron >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --001485f6c732c4269f047771d974-- From sfraves-return-151575-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 07:50:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 92903 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 07:50:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 92884 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 07:50:39 -0000 From: orotoro To: Sean Ocean In-Reply-To: <4AEFB6B3.5080500@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) References: <10766D9E-9227-43EB-8E95-3783E818A02A@technoprisoners.org> <42a0b30f0911021951m2c842269qd5c3c9fbf4e73521@mail.gmail.com> <4AEFB6B3.5080500@gmail.com> Message-Id: <2271ABA5-DEB9-477C-ADEF-F0F1B183DB83@technoprisoners.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2009 23:51:15 -0800 Cc: Ray Wong , Aaron Stevens , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey in defense of eigenharp: full automation. wind pipe. multiple other =20 manual controls. computer interface. strap on. if they were affordable =20= I'd b there in a heartbeat. watch the bond theme vid. it's sick. =EE=80=8A '0ro+or0' =EE=94=83 On Nov 2, 2009, at 20:50, Sean Ocean wrote: > to me the eigenharp looks alot like the toy guitars in the 90s you =20 > could plug preprogramed stuff into and as long as you hit the keys =20 > and strings in time to the beat you could rearrange dire straits' =20 > money for nothing or something. > > the future of music seems to me more like a theramin style =20 > holographic gui where you can manipulate software in a 3d space with =20= > instruments you create on your own in reaktor or max msp. = (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPguNPIXfnOs=20 > ) use of holography in this context would entertain an audience =20 > better than a guy hunched over his laptop or someone projecting =20 > what's on screen while he uses a midi controller. similar to =20 > monolake's demonstration in 5.1 surround at the old asphodel compound. > > how's that for your mind phuck? visual artists/musicians =20 > manipulating 3d time and space to make sounds like you've never =20 > heard/seen before. > > as to answer the young boy's question sans snark.. the top programs =20= > out there are reason, ableton, reaktor, and logic. and although =20 > people swear by them on their own, i think that its the combination =20= > of live gear (keyboards drum machines + real compressor/gates) as =20 > well as software that makes electronic music sound awesome. i've =20 > found there's always been this subtle tension between digital and =20 > analog and the struggle between the two that makes music and =20 > contemporary art really fascinating. > > respect, > sean. > > > orotoro wrote: >> eigenharp or something just like it is gonna b huge >> >> =EF=BF=BDJ '0ro+or0' =EF=BF=BD=EF=BF=BD >> >> On Nov 2, 2009, at 19:51, Ray Wong wrote: >> >>> too faddish. stick with the classic: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dzb8VoPs6S_c >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 8:33 PM, orotoro = >> > wrote: >>> get an eigenharp: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY3Laq2788EE >>> >>> >>> On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: >>> >>> Hey! >>> Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into =20 >>> making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what =20 >>> would be some good programs to get. >>> Thanks, >>> Aaron >>> >>> ---=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >>> ---=20 >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151576-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 09:39:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83480 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 09:39:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83457 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 09:39:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=KNrOUDYshgtnB3XGOjOvY47lX4DmPPNLurg3rdlebwo=; b=SWzOH76kzcWrC5RxVsPrHDbCtq/dcBxgu6GGg9NGH34AM0Vwxt5pixM2wgHpAyzBKo KFGSESmJDnA3Bcw3ZF8pyP59uuZSyXcq6DbDyXQBkiJq5VnYMvoiUgi6O8XlTBzdJUgo hSGTAInFSXlOUXtxwvtP+85QZdnSiXm9IANyQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=qjqgrnkVr44rd+lBl5dL42IEpHwlhuHRqe4b7PexZLv6jYvxGj5ztekxzIWQk/LtOw q/KV88bG7/WNj8livO68vIVlmVkKdVn2sjwsms467ThDaSDPvi1v3gXlS9iui6E+xa4C kvJwXYIi0LIj1/bNWKeluxCiBTWELtJsLA2iQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:40:01 -0800 Message-ID: <9d67351d0911030140y5fc8d009t22679e780857e35a@mail.gmail.com> From: Bruce Davis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d588b933b445047774476b X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Dn'b mix --0016e6d588b933b445047774476b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey crew! Recorded this mix as an audition back in September when these tracks were hot off the press, using Torq. There's something for everyone! Enjoy. Much love -- Bruce P.S. see you at hay maze --0016e6d588b933b445047774476b-- From sfraves-return-151577-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 09:45:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88596 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 09:45:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 88575 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 09:45:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=d6B5jOylTWXhD5/aia+ADhHdbd4WOvJw1uA3AFt0Fqg=; b=b4F1JGJNBgIXGB9kvD3K8CNLB9Xg8q/gJwoa67R1avJm5kHfWgDLhzIkuGako3CToq zdOnPg/X67X1wEcw8faoqarvJYGigIL+tBDSmG0w3VlZVJ8tkiyG3lEFc/dkgYzzBT1I 8ehMkH6jTYtocuBwNlVs3kvet/XuQGS8+7pzQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Ej00Hx6oYJuws7z0TMPpZT56iP8joh7hvXDJMC4cY8BQjCFKXNNYtQr+Fco3z3uCXY R7WNu2j6X1RvG3L2FYCXEBvKz4g/syoX9U1W4f5tN0wHgABxiKrrB5q7GrNFo3DaoVZ6 nQxceupWaJZIfHlhAcyq7uvGgcXf6nDKF1AQQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 01:46:38 -0800 Message-ID: <9d67351d0911030146l1312d15eh722bc2c9dd469030@mail.gmail.com> From: Bruce Davis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d644d0da167d0477745e8d X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] ...and here's the link (d'oh!): Dn'b mix --0016e6d644d0da167d0477745e8d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.soundcloud.com/tx-rx/callback. Available for download for 1 week :-) <3 --0016e6d644d0da167d0477745e8d-- From sfraves-return-151578-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 19:29:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44524 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 19:29:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44482 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 19:29:18 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=U/K/mbdPnXXj7efnGA5JSeeUinCmObGvTePXhdJpP7I=; b=rckgrigDH6la8SnlXj9VIk5tkc0/76WUmceiX/YsrN3Zyipxfxw86lBVfDTWgX28FE Miv2HU49Ag9dJR86zdb4mYKdghQasErO7hiDswEfBRWYYMzFnaOl+nvSd5oiHQ0gCS5H TmWwl6GgadkSc8cLHjFIP6ZiA6LtnfdyPKxgY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=dimJmW2pLj6DPuTKANLkFV8bEBXYQE5As6Zx5rHh0QoojUnckVtWbG92VpH2fvVsIE NkPLS7ybOQ/Qq+OqDuzUQtF2oChbxFm3WyMWa+qg+Gzd0vJF2Y/hJVbetwvFNNTy5QTg c6Ums91EdnYMw1nrCqhgtvlN/zcLXnQpunWYI= Sender: Scott Solmonson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Scott Solmonson In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 11:29:57 -0800 Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> References: To: Aaron Stevens X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey I will second the recommendation of Renoise: http://www.renoise.com/ Alsp you probably have Garageband as well- which is useful as well (more for live recording and arranging) I looked at Renoise long ago when it was just still a basic tracker and was unimpressed but was pointed back to it by someone who I trust, and with version2 now it seems vary useful. It is a midi-capable sample-based tracker with hooks to VST/AU instruments and FX. I've gone down the path of Gear Acquisition Syndrome and it's not a good one. Monstrous software acquisition is just as bad. It's much better to use only a few things, but know them inside and out. Others' comments here about some packages being toys, and others being "pro" because they're used in school etc are meaningless and uninformed. They all work in different ways because peoples' heads work in different ways. Try them all, see what they do, and see which ones fit with how you think My personal recommendation: The reality is that these days, almost everything you need is free and anyone telling you you NEED this or that is full of shit- (Renoise is recommended by me) Samples of any instrument you could want are available free. (everywhere) There are free functional analogs of almost any software package you can imagine. (learn how to use simple wave editors like Audacity etc for final mastering) You already have a computer, just buy a controller as it's always nice to have some actual keys and knobs etc: The expensive way would be one of these: http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.family&ID=USBkeyboardcontrollers The inexpensive (and more fun) way would be to get any old used $100 synth that spits out midi: http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/an1x.php And then just get a simple MIDI interface for your computer. http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MIDISPORT2x2.html AND you can use the synth for just standalone wanking around too- the older virtual analogs are really cheap right now and good because they'll teach you synthesis basics. Learning about song structure and sonic space/layering are FAR more important than which individual piece of gear you use to create whatever individual sound. Also, buy a cheap conga or djembe to develop a sense of rhythm if you don't already have it- Or even a cheap ($200!) electronic drumset: http://ionaudio.com/ied01 -- NUNQUAM NON PARATUS V: 408.718.6290 On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: > Hey! > Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into > making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would > be some good programs to get. > Thanks, > Aaron > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151579-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Nov 03 21:29:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60835 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Nov 2009 21:29:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60817 invoked from network); 3 Nov 2009 21:29:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=PI/mtcNDC8TqHV3A2jyjPAd9hSC2XuckfQrCk6EYQiA=; b=qGA3Ixv8KPnhg86vSVZTa/pmDzarYBAAv266mu/1l2W1PMl8z13Fk/XN6f2IFWVJKH BAxpLY9IU83CjjfG1Cke3jWwdSmWMYLr5P4y27I8s8JJAczaZ3K1KeCvYsyyMRLnwHmY hTkOyby2a+Es5VeHfjvQDeojGJ5Xl7/bOyUTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=D4FWt2lLwhXzUJTfYL/qFiyo/HuhgunvvysNbJjzh0htLSa6thSdQdvGTBlRpox5of m13XIhWZTc62n0BU1AZAICKMmb3LL3M8su4PZ9kP+2AovhWpq/8wP8fltlff9SeR30ro KTyJSmx3HzPkjVN3FG+IR/LClOQTTNFswVOew= References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> Message-Id: <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> From: STML In-Reply-To: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A400) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A400) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:30:14 -0800 Cc: Aaron Stevens , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey I would recommend logic express, to get you started. It really is best of breed for learning how to sequence, etc, an most importantly, actually includes some great soft synths, effects and a great sampler in the box. If you need to expand later, you can do so, as well as explore other stuff like live. Reason is great, and will teach you how it was done old school (actually having to do your own routing, etc), but I don't think you can beat logic express, features for price. S. On Nov 3, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Scott Solmonson wrote: > I will second the recommendation of Renoise: > http://www.renoise.com/ > Alsp you probably have Garageband as well- which is useful as well > (more for live recording and arranging) > > I looked at Renoise long ago when it was just still a basic tracker > and was unimpressed but was pointed back to it by someone who I > trust, and with version2 now it seems vary useful. > It is a midi-capable sample-based tracker with hooks to VST/AU > instruments and FX. > > I've gone down the path of Gear Acquisition Syndrome and it's not a > good one. > Monstrous software acquisition is just as bad. > It's much better to use only a few things, but know them inside and > out. > Others' comments here about some packages being toys, and others > being "pro" because they're used in school etc are meaningless and > uninformed. > They all work in different ways because peoples' heads work in > different ways. > Try them all, see what they do, and see which ones fit with how you > think > > My personal recommendation: > The reality is that these days, almost everything you need is free > and anyone telling you you NEED this or that is full of shit- > (Renoise is recommended by me) > Samples of any instrument you could want are available free. > (everywhere) > There are free functional analogs of almost any software package you > can imagine. > (learn how to use simple wave editors like Audacity etc for final > mastering) > You already have a computer, just buy a controller as it's always > nice to have some actual keys and knobs etc: > The expensive way would be one of these: > http://www.m-audio.com/index.php?do=products.family&ID=USBkeyboardcontrollers > > The inexpensive (and more fun) way would be to get any old used $100 > synth that spits out midi: > http://www.vintagesynth.com/yamaha/an1x.php > And then just get a simple MIDI interface for your computer. > http://www.m-audio.com/products/en_us/MIDISPORT2x2.html > AND you can use the synth for just standalone wanking around too- > the older virtual analogs are really cheap right now and good > because they'll teach you synthesis basics. > > Learning about song structure and sonic space/layering are FAR more > important than which individual piece of gear you use to create > whatever individual sound. > > Also, buy a cheap conga or djembe to develop a sense of rhythm if > you don't already have it- > Or even a cheap ($200!) electronic drumset: > http://ionaudio.com/ied01 > > -- > NUNQUAM NON PARATUS > V: 408.718.6290 > > > > > > > On Nov 2, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Aaron Stevens wrote: > >> Hey! >> Me and my friend are high schoolers who are starting to get into >> making electronic music, we both have Macs, any ideas on what would >> be some good programs to get. >> Thanks, >> Aaron >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151580-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 00:01:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90086 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 00:01:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90069 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 00:01:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UCUpzADGwowPP08fcX2fvGsQ+DxrUMu/65YIbJG0iuw=; b=oSFRr8kEW+3BdlenycN6Jbnuh/C8JCNeYShL7ahjNE5lIJeOWKvHDArhH4T9dO1mUd OpyOjVkcN4aKvRHpU/e+9KRVeuqP8ab98FfjfYbiY3uUX5kKUUx1jeozgGa3T1EKG6Aq rnu7R2DUpPV3pkYAbNlwXy7QDPdaUUlPEKZa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=o4X12DHhjpB+BCsvDxYiAGpBacVZVepo9YuGsHp9unDQfItGbIKK4zNWzHljseN4oT dz+mH7BS+WajhvLQDjUd9DTmzRiJIT2qCiF+3o0FNe3ncNKn7jnRgGEewHsv/mZHwiBo FpFJcKedrkSMI8bcPVcWBeyvZXG/qDkmT2lbk= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:01:58 -0800 Message-ID: <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> From: Media Bass To: STML Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cdff7b4cbc9590477805181 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --000e0cdff7b4cbc9590477805181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) Live. . . --000e0cdff7b4cbc9590477805181-- From sfraves-return-151581-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 00:06:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94220 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 00:06:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94204 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 00:06:58 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:07:42 -0800 Message-ID: From: "J.C." To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey I thought that was a jukebox program. Isn't it? On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Media Bass wrote: > While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) Live. . . > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151582-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 00:29:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9299 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 00:29:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9279 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 00:29:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257294618; bh=ad4WhLP9duKVsQ38hagfDM5t1FhZf1OZvkVeuKea0Uk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yc94HZVrHi6SSm9kissPItGiXiIAOpqpudgi3EXKmn5dEdVMFqFkmui81cNEgxlyJXaVfuXsScJmUCTJEgWaalkqEi3hpkkWlLHiCgkB/UInty06+lRxJ3SppRpHMNR0S0S/pQCw1HE1hikiOx3hPKqzlCib9dOYrkQ1TpIhFv8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OZoPLhd3xQ8eBLYOfVqhi7DNLnpUTnfLoAC4xxf1YkyoAXcp7EG3uA6N+SNxLkehF9xC20Tr6OYi+bQsuR9X1uQ3+k3clvYNFaPca0vyKUsZQ6pjUH+BhZLBr09nG9HTKCJCe0c/ZiiIGwGtg2ZznsOWeOZP6qIT6hHBfWuQCIs=; Message-ID: <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CllE6KsVM1naJJRTR5QhK1I6uqAhKPWs_eWLImpnKWE8baykRnpC8CLab7gUX.x7ts7HcFydD.JsCt1Ht1Gq2rTRS_8wCMA4hWA05J6c3Pz5pkIhq4p.3zYJJ2hxE9VR8K7jsK1yXQPy.4.Nb8yewh8joBPMZYAQ8Jn0B6n7u3SVTpMMHvEGZ2_Nsdn7NjCNOfFdFwEKXpqM30ukFzQkrc6Pgbh0SFBIG.pIgLIp_SVzzCiqY53iXrvAEo20QikPKibFb0X4_mmwYiOzmdpi2CJNSYFAwJeWkIrGYnQm9JVM50xL2h1wmdwFyhH1tHxvJUOxNswFKM.kE25AtA7R0UqWpHA8k2uDw6aLIHTGmkOwGzcH282LF6UadcaW7oGrYm._YakV7bePsXzUgVxssq5ejc_CH_VUvFxg8ox_0RGrlxjxFBorlTf2OZJQs8KhtlqenKFm1ZLxPE1RcNHARLsTcUj8mIc0XJc- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:30:18 -0800 (PST) From: George Cochrane To: Media Bass , STML Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey It's the best program I've found for turning ideas into music in short order. What it lacks in DAW sophistication, it makes up for in lightning-quick creative workflows. It's also pretty much the best non-custom-made tool for remixing and performing original electronic music in a live context. I dislike using it for straight "DJ" sets because it lacks the ability to effectively turn off its helpful beatmatching autopilot, and I tend to prefer turntablesque controls for that kind of performance (so I use Torq). Live maps to MIDI controllers very well and the UI is clear, uncluttered, and informative, so in general it's a joy to use. The main caveat: When creating your own music with Live, you might want to consider mixing through a hardware summing buss, or exporting your final tracks and mixing in a program like Pro Tools, Cubase, or Logic, because I've found Live's internal mixer to lack the fidelity of a good hardware mixer or the more "serious" DAW software. It sounds fine if you're making really distorted uber-compressed Justice-y stuff or flatlined electro-tweezy shit (and actually the mix buss sounds kind of cool when overloaded, within limits) but it gets tiring to listen to when you just want a bunch of headroom and clear imaging. Good luck, Cheers, -George www.georgecochrane.com ----- Original Message ---- From: Media Bass To: STML Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:01:58 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) Live. . . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151583-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 00:32:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11064 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 00:32:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11042 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 00:32:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vpoLcH/pLYEUjUI0TMEgcCe0abWnDQl1ZeK5HozJ1Zs=; b=BeJtfCn3nTJ/uqPcEjCfceeUeFyQGJGF9m1dGzp6VWN7J3pe0NOZhdcVUlL6xHwHcV sYqLvV9AJT4G3GPYtGvYDYtl7Z82dieE9EAk9giolSJ6Ufzy3UowYi8LlBAcnQpgr4S/ NmbJ87kJEsPJcdArxl+eCxhFMrsWNUAmTYnV8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=nYe1JSOW7pbFTLGdiiRMdJHnFmFDO/bwhhj1EC5Tu06s2CJ81l7MU2YtBEKisiudpm cI0M5mCiimmdW9cJ22GS7AJxVkeZekSW0WH/lkPwjqJfMZLBJkBmBxUYAH+2KpkHF0Hf 6IxfoPxQHIvsOUM4ryacjNX2ynK+fYXxEtCTY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:32:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: George Cochrane Cc: Media Bass , STML , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd20fb891b954047780c023 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --000e0cd20fb891b954047780c023 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, George Cochrane wrote: > It's the best program I've found for turning ideas into music in short > order. What it lacks in DAW sophistication, it makes up for in > lightning-quick creative workflows. It's also pretty much the best > non-custom-made tool for remixing and performing original electronic music > in a live context. > > I dislike using it for straight "DJ" sets because it lacks the ability to > effectively turn off its helpful beatmatching autopilot, and I tend to > prefer turntablesque controls for that kind of performance (so I use Torq). > > Live maps to MIDI controllers very well and the UI is clear, uncluttered, > and informative, so in general it's a joy to use. The main caveat: When > creating your own music with Live, you might want to consider mixing through > a hardware summing buss, or exporting your final tracks and mixing in a > program like Pro Tools, Cubase, or Logic, because I've found Live's internal > mixer to lack the fidelity of a good hardware mixer or the more "serious" > DAW software. > I thought the latest Ableton live had a 32 bit mixing bus? > > It sounds fine if you're making really distorted uber-compressed Justice-y > stuff or flatlined electro-tweezy shit (and actually the mix buss sounds > kind of cool when overloaded, within limits) but it gets tiring to listen to > when you just want a bunch of headroom and clear imaging. > > Good luck, > > Cheers, > -George > www.georgecochrane.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Media Bass > To: STML > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:01:58 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey > > While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) Live. . > . > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd20fb891b954047780c023-- From sfraves-return-151584-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 00:43:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19671 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 00:43:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19655 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 00:43:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=4VgdNTIRRAKHZkmuMm3bvzW6dc6hvzP4aHMA1HWCRI0=; b=OGgGpYMwb66UsWgN1BaCUym6INptRwWt38MNugupaQwX/eeKu2hqXCqtrEU7VLUae0 stTm+o+Q7aiS2JHluY7U3A5NsFk+p2zpIZLqfEV+ETkRnpPMj0P+33/hrgs2ZZd8LOjW TIsG2bFS9XzDM3O9gf5wowVot9jb6lVbkoxrM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=UteqpzoR8Cw27ZbhfEr/VirBzowqTe6ZhTAt7l3jW33ODOz4C3U10qX4vo+0znaqBB 9i4HUK/hEjh4ayA6TgBuromWUoiqgFU0vYl4N9HhF7Ix1W3X8uNAsExtRL35ajmofXis vVHR2XsFRusbERe77fRZyXLSAIqYmJjsHNl/w= References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> Message-Id: From: STML To: Media Bass In-Reply-To: <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A400) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A400) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 16:43:47 -0800 Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey I love it, but for the question the guy asked, I think Logic exp is a better all round learning tool. You still have to pay extra for synths, etc in live. I tend to use it as a scratch pad for ideas. For djing, and for sample creation, audio manipulation and general audio subversivness. I would never use it over logic for mixing though, and I will often bounce into logic from live via rewire. If someone is just getting started, my advice would be to get 1 sequencer, a nice midi keyboard, a nice little synth, maybe a nice cheap hardware compressor and just learn those until you are masterful with them. Then worry about collecting gear. S. Fat fingered from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:01 PM, Media Bass wrote: > While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) > Live. . . --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151585-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 01:04:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34455 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 01:04:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34439 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 01:04:45 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=S9EUZPZaiOxBmSA1hEPqhxHMJuqQaehNGAOJfQzp0Ro=; b=QuC5Q/SCJslxVZcQOQ3yOXqXx9Oo4SHyk4qlpMzlukO2DnFL1lHhfYz1wfsx8KhBOr UHq665HbGR6Mtu1+Ee5U7bf0Fbw944/KcZDZYuX6hcrQNoVI0NBrm4p6hGamAJ8ZwMFT DuFxf+awbcMfffruA1LwyN7zqoVPgJgL70g0o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=DaM7ZuOOF0+XlHvGFR1GbuLmRLSfvgQoz1X7xnEelGZntA10qtj79TAZAdAfUg7msY xhQaYKBJpAPJFQENayscfW63zXW+srF1oKqfXC5MIbECgQsz/dPPj/vyr72psWensaol eARlNy/aXdqNJheCu0G1AcLpohL9c/vYVzz8Y= References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <646FDD09-F67E-4337-8C5E-9C569BAC8DB5@gmail.com> From: STML To: Matt Stone In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--183352984 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A400) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A400) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:05:20 -0800 Cc: George Cochrane , Media Bass , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --Apple-Mail-2--183352984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, live has a 64b internal summing engine, but it just sounds janky compared to logic, which in turn sounds janky compared to the mix buss on my metric halo, which is only 40b, but logic has the best tools in terms of bussing, etc. Idk, it just always feels like I have to hack lives routing to get it to do what I want. Fat fingered from my iPhone On Nov 3, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, George Cochrane > wrote: > It's the best program I've found for turning ideas into music in > short order. What it lacks in DAW sophistication, it makes up for > in lightning-quick creative workflows. It's also pretty much the > best non-custom-made tool for remixing and performing original > electronic music in a live context. > > I dislike using it for straight "DJ" sets because it lacks the > ability to effectively turn off its helpful beatmatching autopilot, > and I tend to prefer turntablesque controls for that kind of > performance (so I use Torq). > > Live maps to MIDI controllers very well and the UI is clear, > uncluttered, and informative, so in general it's a joy to use. The > main caveat: When creating your own music with Live, you might want > to consider mixing through a hardware summing buss, or exporting > your final tracks and mixing in a program like Pro Tools, Cubase, or > Logic, because I've found Live's internal mixer to lack the fidelity > of a good hardware mixer or the more "serious" DAW software. > > I thought the latest Ableton live had a 32 bit mixing bus? > > > It sounds fine if you're making really distorted uber-compressed > Justice-y stuff or flatlined electro-tweezy shit (and actually the > mix buss sounds kind of cool when overloaded, within limits) but it > gets tiring to listen to when you just want a bunch of headroom and > clear imaging. > > Good luck, > > Cheers, > -George > www.georgecochrane.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Media Bass > To: STML > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:01:58 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey > > While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) > Live. . . > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --Apple-Mail-2--183352984-- From sfraves-return-151586-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 01:05:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35423 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 01:05:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35402 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 01:05:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257296788; bh=C4wdrymiCHua/OS6Mx8TxVVYmW+8UFUQ4DQzBMD+HCw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g9VgDzG0qPfhDRsOaP0GLjJIPLfXQ8S8YfjoYmyXhu22r6IdwWlQbeaw9S650Zg7rt4TwaIubtcfzW2ndO8iJqFIJ0B+y1gahXu6yJ5OFwyXtT650Y5iq7c/uKVnIe61V6t5MnwBrSX7s7qcTqHcz6+HlbPMuzuzsYm+NR+IC/w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ud/fxaGpeGQmdRkPwcwwypcDU/Pjp1Jdi+1y5wkMOYYC/of7eWlgVMOCUiyVSt/thncaTirEMzk2x1GDSvcmcKFlOvMl3uBwnFQlEXERx5p5IpiGqCOQTLyCP6puPM6KGt8h7iW6j/5cLQ72JVdIX3Rxw+TGTwqt+Sr9Xk9blCE=; Message-ID: <246740.81937.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: WYVTMhYVM1nkp0B7vw95DTwgXL69K75AxAibw5sB76vnh3SScmKBBTl6TJnkQXzNAyS1rsO48_60sWe2zxyiNY.pXiJzEODxWmhbcMYtsciUpRn_AnD53acNVbN7iMJamnQ03hFKMw9c3r.HQLzD31647nVhoKKhjaffn7Su1hVjLKkfVa0xkWLKVFEG0PhXiznFrnuV0moeyVmyNcA7FSuNpXNpPjqlO4TyJJWtLGn9QXt2rDzH0ea147C9wYT0L50qy8RvOAnXgeY3wYDuVPvfDrxpNf2_czFcXYt2ZCtX6gZAtbgigdgkbfWq6JkDwcgK6KUha1WM1vUgAAUDYJ8InSkd521yYvQLfWTtgzwyiP6P5eR_LScEC5o7Rs3E_Mdb33NnzFARupD9BtCFKsnCFeAO5N_zXp1jNyhBEpEt4_8_oAvwD_Xl4vNwtsFWF1Kcmj2w9xEri79DSAZHBtGZ.W4rA0aJXGXBqe7oz0rXyk8FzZDSK.kNHqXjE3w0q7tEb4hkmS91VXpO5wOuR5R_jyByqJ5QyJa9JxRoWyP.ug_2_PXb8fg- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:06:28 -0800 (PST) From: George Cochrane To: Matt Stone Cc: Media Bass , STML , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey It may well (and as a native audio app, probably always has), but it just doesn't sound as good as Logic, and is nowhere near PT (of any flavor) at the moment. Mixer algorithms are a black art, and what seems like simple math is generally anything but if things are going to sound really good. Specs almost always have to kowtow to empirical data, at least in audio. -George ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Stone To: George Cochrane Cc: Media Bass ; STML ; "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:32:57 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, George Cochrane wrote: > It's the best program I've found for turning ideas into music in short > order. What it lacks in DAW sophistication, it makes up for in > lightning-quick creative workflows. It's also pretty much the best > non-custom-made tool for remixing and performing original electronic music > in a live context. > > I dislike using it for straight "DJ" sets because it lacks the ability to > effectively turn off its helpful beatmatching autopilot, and I tend to > prefer turntablesque controls for that kind of performance (so I use Torq). > > Live maps to MIDI controllers very well and the UI is clear, uncluttered, > and informative, so in general it's a joy to use. The main caveat: When > creating your own music with Live, you might want to consider mixing through > a hardware summing buss, or exporting your final tracks and mixing in a > program like Pro Tools, Cubase, or Logic, because I've found Live's internal > mixer to lack the fidelity of a good hardware mixer or the more "serious" > DAW software. > I thought the latest Ableton live had a 32 bit mixing bus? > > It sounds fine if you're making really distorted uber-compressed Justice-y > stuff or flatlined electro-tweezy shit (and actually the mix buss sounds > kind of cool when overloaded, within limits) but it gets tiring to listen to > when you just want a bunch of headroom and clear imaging. > > Good luck, > > Cheers, > -George > www.georgecochrane.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Media Bass > To: STML > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:01:58 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey > > While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) Live. . > . > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151587-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 01:14:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42055 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 01:14:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42037 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 01:14:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=owUfcqu+8KjY5AFoGGeAeiHxpGVmyS5JmN4vrKBb+Qw=; b=vqnmxccVrGxzxWDW83FpBPVLRrNKQqQdnzdjuto3Qr0z5+ivpvMGEnlyfqlMKM7E1p YMEIpxzCEjezfRmIde5GSxZWTomoIyYe+mqW1NeigmQkafU02rGUIF+TKrSIKvBrQbIJ kZEPKG0y45JZTrB7UatpXNDvAyu8kfcGbpQng= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=IvuN4qVsRHRDVcnMIwWqr3N+eu4tFfI3nTS+n0qaOOfhnWzkwBkRtJxKutl96S+Vxz FNFWQaVa4CGOgSiaYgmP7F3BM0/LJy5iChNIHZ8Ur6NjuKU65Re59h4af/S93FTIxF7V CtbGqB40hLU+HI6w9tgwkCKkSdJEpsJgJnCss= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <246740.81937.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <246740.81937.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:15:20 -0800 Message-ID: <6883b4190911031715h2373be80g93bb8ba09213339a@mail.gmail.com> From: STML To: George Cochrane Cc: Matt Stone , Media Bass , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502bab22730d904778158ed X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey --00504502bab22730d904778158ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have my theory about why this is with live, and I think its basically because there is no true mono file object in live. It will take a mono input source and go dual mono with it. Those of us who understand the importance of a mono kick/bass get why this is sub optimal. I think Logic and PT both have far superior pan law stuff. The best DAW mixing engine, imo is Cubase, but I'm just so used to logic now that I'm not going to shift from it. Live for creativity, Logic for the actual nuts and bolts of assembling a mix. Peak for audio file stuff. On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:06 PM, George Cochrane wrote: > It may well (and as a native audio app, probably always has), but it just > doesn't sound as good as Logic, and is nowhere near PT (of any flavor) at > the moment. > > Mixer algorithms are a black art, and what seems like simple math is > generally anything but if things are going to sound really good. > > Specs almost always have to kowtow to empirical data, at least in audio. > --00504502bab22730d904778158ed-- From sfraves-return-151588-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 01:25:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51295 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 01:25:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51273 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 01:25:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=IgS+hmkbpRUD82LvavBmhdXqRXP+E1wZd9rmidQFy/I=; b=Fb5hxw4P5XQzASRm2hPlUyS9zOJT+iBeTyUd+yl/GvPGUtUhQnyU5WiiOPtKsqZrX5 rvJnTaiwXMA6/0pxJEcw5nDAMOoOMp+wykCwxTw+ep2R2ZSFAEXO2mBOX+rXAtVwVYhO MkBE8FLwh+AV0Wc37FCIPuu9eM0a+qvKnK1lg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=X1Osnc2NYkpYAuTATh7p5LUXrkZF1ZuU/8JNphzcNBOZRqYwrF9XzoO5WJfH6MhpRE nvT9TUy88oZAmHgIpQazPTnhxo4YPuqHsz3aELGusLzNJbCyg6IEEw/4OB/rYMIQMYba KNnei75by0SY/SlPBOCocSJkMceRg/KJzcceQ= Sender: Scott Solmonson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Scott Solmonson In-Reply-To: <246740.81937.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 17:26:28 -0800 Cc: Matt Stone , Media Bass , STML , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <11569DA4-02A9-4B43-8166-66C53FA9D446@scosol.org> <7FE6BE7B-803D-4F3C-97F1-49250A9C8897@gmail.com> <19b8baf40911031601u12024103l129cabf149d3335d@mail.gmail.com> <522088.54387.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <246740.81937.qm@web65612.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> To: George Cochrane X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey George- I trust your opinion but have you really done blind A/B stuff here? There's no such thing as "mixer algorithms"- there's simple overlay amplitude projecting each channel across the entire bit/freq range which creates distortion, or you get to divide your master bitrange by the number of channels and fit it all in to whatever your final output hardware can do Anything beyond that is "massaging" of the signal and should be called out as such. I would wager that if you are hearing "nastiness" in an application's final mixing output (which is probably about the simplest part of the audio path) then it's only because whatever you're comparing it to is artificially adding "warmth" or compression or cutting digital clips and blending with the surrounds etc etc etc- But as always, the point is moot- because what sounds better, sounds better :) -- NUNQUAM NON PARATUS V: 408.718.6290 On Nov 3, 2009, at 5:06 PM, George Cochrane wrote: > It may well (and as a native audio app, probably always has), but it > just doesn't sound as good as Logic, and is nowhere near PT (of any > flavor) at the moment. > > Mixer algorithms are a black art, and what seems like simple math is > generally anything but if things are going to sound really good. > > Specs almost always have to kowtow to empirical data, at least in > audio. > > -George > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Matt Stone > To: George Cochrane > Cc: Media Bass ; STML ; "sfraves@hyperreal.org > " > Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:32:57 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 5:30 PM, George Cochrane >wrote: > >> It's the best program I've found for turning ideas into music in >> short >> order. What it lacks in DAW sophistication, it makes up for in >> lightning-quick creative workflows. It's also pretty much the best >> non-custom-made tool for remixing and performing original >> electronic music >> in a live context. >> >> I dislike using it for straight "DJ" sets because it lacks the >> ability to >> effectively turn off its helpful beatmatching autopilot, and I tend >> to >> prefer turntablesque controls for that kind of performance (so I >> use Torq). >> >> Live maps to MIDI controllers very well and the UI is clear, >> uncluttered, >> and informative, so in general it's a joy to use. The main caveat: >> When >> creating your own music with Live, you might want to consider >> mixing through >> a hardware summing buss, or exporting your final tracks and mixing >> in a >> program like Pro Tools, Cubase, or Logic, because I've found Live's >> internal >> mixer to lack the fidelity of a good hardware mixer or the more >> "serious" >> DAW software. >> > > I thought the latest Ableton live had a 32 bit mixing bus? > > >> >> It sounds fine if you're making really distorted uber-compressed >> Justice-y >> stuff or flatlined electro-tweezy shit (and actually the mix buss >> sounds >> kind of cool when overloaded, within limits) but it gets tiring to >> listen to >> when you just want a bunch of headroom and clear imaging. >> >> Good luck, >> >> Cheers, >> -George >> www.georgecochrane.com >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Media Bass >> To: STML >> Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" >> Sent: Tue, November 3, 2009 4:01:58 PM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hey >> >> While we're at it, I'd like to hear some SFR opinions on (Ableton) >> Live. . >> . >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151589-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 04 03:31:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39034 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Nov 2009 03:31:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39014 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2009 03:31:33 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:32:18 -0800 Message-ID: From: "J.C." 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To: sfraves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: An Epiphany Of Sound right NOW Hi there, Back to feeling better, so I'm doing the show again today. And I'm bringing you a double CD mix that Juan Segovia passed along to me last week. Nice tech house mix that you really should have a listen to! Tune in online at http://kzsulive.stanford.edu or listen over the air at 90.1 FM on the dial. Peace! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151593-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 06 00:40:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3823 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Nov 2009 00:40:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3804 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 00:40:46 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 715695.43488.bm@omp406.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: R2pa52uswBDJqEf0msrE60sRiGGD2DntDE3HgvAlKUVRuWLQ X-YMail-OSG: NVFn.OkVM1kmdlcnEbPzUql3TH7V22WYQPgPVAoTW14I9PD7BONZlOqgRj_IbOd6apV6hvZ.8GL_JEpiU9afSMCy2dMxAWZUUukFh7Z2b83jCBDMDb0.O6a7KUs7I4mJ3JBEi_RguZmaZDGu82eaD_8KrUCUBK9Tlv3ppGT2QH0r_LjURPBNdjqAR7ectPIfWbcpQhauMC75K35mXtyNVm9SsfJDzonY7Ye3tHYFRd7Ju8fCXPpHorqiCMEvkPEMa1n7nlT.QexIla4bZBIKWrNidvky7_fNNL4BzJ.Nzjd6jz48JUEs3UcYUNeTeFh1Q0YjmA.X0ECNPmSJ_hJdKyEbiiWF4L2Kxbr2Zenfqq3wl.vDJe2zkb4hLuqmT7bf_CtFIySac.Ftc.TkZbZ9HkHLwkKOhsiT8InpPZHAWdDj.4MTjMvUA40AHRwM9sWcWCTBtlUbvwiblPbnsCo- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Andrew Phelan" To: Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:41:40 -0800 Message-ID: <008801ca5e79$e7d28df0$6802a8c0@apo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpeeeeZ++IKANcKQo2cT1zkjgb6ow== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] The Fingermonsters Mix + Tracks Hi everyone, just uploaded all of The Fingermonsters tracks and remixes to my Soundloud page, along with our Monsta Mash mix of original production. We've been handing out CDs of the mix at our gigs for the last year or two, but this is the first time it's been hosted properly, so if you want to grab a free MP3, just follow the link: http://soundcloud.com/andrewphelan/sets/the-fingermonsters-production-remixe s --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151594-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 06 00:48:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8927 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Nov 2009 00:48:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8910 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 00:48:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=z+eztVfckW9/LfnI79fy4cUwrjPB9N3pgg6js0nHX8M=; b=hP4TOEFwc7UvsMwC6WxDJrBRTlFdmTt49v9aqbFcJbruBwDHXxMsZ3ZzXMcV77vVHW mrEB1gi8bKNYDzUvvMuIZmzagToeQUrQ7MQJuj3LslWsbNi72DD9Y3fptlkILUJ4c/4M eHIfQXOwuwlg/Jnxaw6PeFJ8wZrgfFuYAF3wA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=ffoSl4qlswg4sSnB23NcU5HuN6lT/XJlrAVQxY24nh8vvdWvBhFjr6SdlKg+L8JtiP iJMRnRpyVbgGcUgSsyjKQpz7yZvTuaSBTmhMNHUvrwUNNguqVslcakhWyBCJwQI5b4+K +29MEo0EljhgsOxBRHr6OWuVuxI/zlNGli3AU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <008801ca5e79$e7d28df0$6802a8c0@apo> References: <008801ca5e79$e7d28df0$6802a8c0@apo> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:49:38 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Andrew Phelan Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd20f80ee503b0477a937ba X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] The Fingermonsters Mix + Tracks --000e0cd20f80ee503b0477a937ba Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Fixed link: http://soundcloud.com/andrewphelan/sets/the-fingermonsters-production-remixes On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Andrew Phelan < mailinglists@djandrewphelan.com> wrote: > Hi everyone, just uploaded all of The Fingermonsters tracks and remixes to > my Soundloud page, along with our Monsta Mash mix of original production. > We've been handing out CDs of the mix at our gigs for the last year or two, > but this is the first time it's been hosted properly, so if you want to > grab > a free MP3, just follow the link: > > > http://soundcloud.com/andrewphelan/sets/the-fingermonsters-production-remixe > s > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd20f80ee503b0477a937ba-- From sfraves-return-151595-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 06 01:16:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28867 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Nov 2009 01:16:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28849 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 01:16:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 255059.71731.bm@omp406.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-SMTP: R2pa52uswBDJqEf0msrE60sRiGGD2DntDE3HgvAlKUVRuWLQ X-YMail-OSG: yzFYmKsVM1mnYQLheHjhSrKj2aw3MMhrXPLYMSsPJURXltK65kHBVxCswBof1GbukVKWVTsHutbltee1xHdmrO_WeoQD9ZDxHNlyrMDVLTflUUeaA1TFpJnoFht0WPU4XPxRdB3WwLJlwKcHjMc.lv8FkENSZ_Hz0xQIXmm_Kujflku76MzsxVvKqmtSwjZH4HAd_Krj0opgAe7x9APLPgFSB4fHLBPanmEqxA1yUwl0BoX3SmQnCgLRP.WSVD6K6FMi9rDcJti_eJKz0yJlnFJATXKuQwsBWUqM8DeybPoVFY4YrvrwrPT8IqXnvkgRupE2NTkcAUwUsHoM X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Andrew Phelan" To: References: <008801ca5e79$e7d28df0$6802a8c0@apo> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:16:55 -0800 Message-ID: <009701ca5e7e$d54eec50$6802a8c0@apo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcpeeylHOMML1WPrQ8e58FZP6eqmjAAA4i7w In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [sfraves] The Fingermonsters Mix + Tracks Thanks for the help. I realllly need to stop using Outlook for my email. > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Stone [mailto:matthew.d.stone@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2009 4:50 PM > To: Andrew Phelan > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [sfraves] The Fingermonsters Mix + Tracks > > Fixed link: > > http://soundcloud.com/andrewphelan/sets/the-fingermonsters-production- > remixes > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Andrew Phelan < > mailinglists@djandrewphelan.com> wrote: > > > Hi everyone, just uploaded all of The Fingermonsters tracks and remixes > to > > my Soundloud page, along with our Monsta Mash mix of original > production. > > We've been handing out CDs of the mix at our gigs for the last year or > two, > > but this is the first time it's been hosted properly, so if you want to > > grab > > a free MP3, just follow the link: > > > > > > http://soundcloud.com/andrewphelan/sets/the-fingermonsters-production- > remixe > > s > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151596-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 06 01:16:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30140 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Nov 2009 01:16:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30121 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 01:16:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=t835DO7BKDVSTAgiB1UgysXpJsiAdyFK55SirJkY+A4=; b=WPnFd0WtREQ5lM+ORhuFrLyGeZ52rpBQaT1NLihXFgWHgh74iJRZuocD0IOmXQhsD7 7gAJQeS7tOdAJ5+VirNfZKcADZTLI7nP9k5doV/L/p1apMSrGt1lfBDXnBeEPxnQz5Rq YA3Bruk0W6VOz0WG+H91hg8W3FtAf6RmkymHs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uB5XC2fNbGeHAi8AfU9vQzIhHYCiqlCu/repOdP5HqRGp/zaqOXLD2suPWxAUuZpE/ N7GIop8ugX/FEWpxEf69Si3B3LthawNZnGO6ULa0FvmGkG5BaWJ3nkGev7ujEXCrvRHF veOHCO6LeOw7Du36IappWngft1lYkbninQPzI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <009701ca5e7e$d54eec50$6802a8c0@apo> References: <008801ca5e79$e7d28df0$6802a8c0@apo> <009701ca5e7e$d54eec50$6802a8c0@apo> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 17:17:41 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Andrew Phelan Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22bd242d5d60477a99cc8 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: RE: [sfraves] The Fingermonsters Mix + Tracks --000e0cd22bd242d5d60477a99cc8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Gmail ftw :) On Nov 5, 2009 5:16 PM, "Andrew Phelan" wrote: Thanks for the help. I realllly need to stop using Outlook for my email. > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Stone [mailto: matthew.d.stone@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday... --000e0cd22bd242d5d60477a99cc8-- From sfraves-return-151597-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 06 19:14:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89430 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Nov 2009 19:14:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89410 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2009 19:14:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257534912; bh=4AWV6tAv4Z64wrz1FD/h9olJaeb/nQH2tCJ4+ly9+LU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wFgmprHpUh4SdFUjnUa76giav99diigJfWs3Ma3VZ+vTGh3KDtSHWS5H23RqtJl7thjkv+ttS812YcIn4GYNti22yXm7nHT6vqEFjcMBOPWs8JS5XYqk4ZA94f7zC9M/rOHakGaKP3s4ZGrcFRVXiK++h32uCld/YbI7bBE9a5w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3JnrarcwshUNNIEvxOP+qeKBasp3IaieL3eI0HxVE4wQAX/uyC/e0j703GUaTWvK7AZn00jC13diQA6gdTL1PNsbc3dq3uWG4U2pybbC+7yIkT40g6GSF8tkei3bbDlqv9FC3McubqejwPZR4PqTlooPhpw7UKvRm1U+Uo+NlCo=; Message-ID: <861040.65285.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rSaKs2wVM1mRZzJV4O82nxmeB3ionVpneccl8jBP_sbQzyYTHfDrASYAl1TwFmKQ142czio1xmMNaFjLG3Bv3FI3MMjtJ8oVqMJycam7HOSrIFh0kdPmEJnwBupvxEANXGoZ0x3W9v1UVvHW436ilDWBBSTV5QuB0M2OHBANC6L2UrlxnV91ZIuzh.IT4vGMj9u_FwgYx8hX9wMPgncGwELDXc50fG5is4Sev8TNTfcIxPhewozsWUxyr5wuUk2KYg7QzBHGZ7AGpv0iImp.D77fAQZR0m3xneOikAq0izThys1Cm9PlKl2ss45tNyfN.NjJzh02nFOncXHOH.n_r3ukRNFGFowGUbnEeajEEP3WqnHAwiqAdhS2sJum5Hp3q0o5q9qhgUmuh8taOWRvqaNHmD__UB1mCBx7SsJYe6_tcQdKyyTMNUuYDfhqIH1rrUb9itoUuHF2nC4mAf8- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:15:12 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] NEXUS HAYMAZE - UPDATE - LOCATION CHANGE ATTENTION EVERYONE=E2=80=A6=0A=0AThe Maze Party has undergone some major ch= anges in the last few days.=0AThere is a small faction of the local communi= ty who has taken it upon=0Athemselves to worry and fret about every conceiv= able aspect of the=0Aevent and managed to generate serious concern from eve= ry imaginable=0Acorner of the authoritative infrastructure. Much of the tr= ouble has=0Abeen initiated as a result of long standing family feud that ha= s=0Aabsolutely nothing to do with us, we just happen to have got stuck in= =0Athe middle. We have jumped through hoops of all sizes and color this=0Aw= eek and each morning a new pile of hoops has presented themselves. We=0Ado= not feel that we should subject our friends and family to the drama=0Athat= is going on around that property this year. It=E2=80=99s a long and=0Acom= plicated story that we really don=E2=80=99t need to get ourselves involved= =0Awith. Rubber bullets and handcuffs.=0A=0AHOWEVER, IN TYPICAL NEXUS FASI= ON WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!!=0A=0AWe have made some calls= and found ourselves approximately 1200 acres in=0Athe Santa Cruz Mountains= entirely at our disposal and we are going to=0Ado it. We will be setting = up as much of the infrastructure of our=0ABurning Man camp as possible on s= uch short notice and everything we had=0Aplanned for the original maze part= y on the property. We=E2=80=99re keeping the=0Alineup, extending the hours= , adding DJ slots and making it into a=0Acampout. The only catch is that w= e can=E2=80=99t announce the exact location=0Aon this thread because the sp= ies might be watching. So the MAZE is=0Astill happening, the focus of the = maze has just changed. Instead of=0Awandering through the confines of 8-14= ft. high hay bail walls, now the=0Amaze becomes how to find the party. Go= od Luck, get on the phone, get=0Aon the internet, send a twitter, release a= pigeon, figure it out. I=0Alove you, I know you can do it!=0A=0AIf we wen= t through with the old plan we would be at the mercy of=0Aentirely too many= authoritative powers who would more than likely put a=0Ahuge damper on our= fun. This way, we can do what we want and all get=0Atogether and have one= of the most memorable weekends of the year. Have=0Ano fear my fellow frie= nds. Nexus will prevail!=0A=0APlease note that this event is for ages 18 a= nd up. If you would like=0Ato request a refund because you are underage, o= r for any of the reasons=0Astated above, please contact Brown Paper Tickets= at 1-800-838-3006=0Abefore ticket sales end at 9am on Nov. 7th.=0A=0A=0A = --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151598-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Nov 07 01:46:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5982 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Nov 2009 01:46:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5947 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2009 01:46:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257558411; bh=kGvWoe3RXUu2/qM9zxJE0OV+nnykzdvrk20ESAhM87I=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ecy3iVkmM4nWRjixopuweFFeCjZ672lcPPLtVPqQTI35CpRQYMQKpj1oqCeeG6KjSufn5DdaqNE/TCWpY+smmYndfdr6VfdcxEinac9DB1d7JZDlaCgaWAthSYJwEtdShw4MP9Pn8fI2KKBvM9CHXK5bR21ao7EIJJnWMwCHK6c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=aVKVRXKOdD2sx58YSYJA4VHwScnM0QQsD8q/HiXNtlLb7d80oK5ILz6rt2nKuSIoNh5LI00ximDw1/3tAEAlWtwqL93+ajSMrE24qrUrF99vPKnaeZxQtdJzHG+gVIGyf2e/cE1nPRNRvaG2BgC2uGx0s+o6f9ZunbG8JFKPGzY=; Message-ID: <690351.84552.qm@web50001.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: iap97wIVM1nxMqKSo.63zB5Z33Q77p.WcGpyw3SS5TM7M8tFUR.I5nV8TGlEHKqb1ceBj8loMS2OW04ky5IRGCBgyPujwdrd4US4EFKEra1Ff7JPRra7a.vEHFJfDKcJUtz9phAAB0Izx5S1UazDiF89e0gaZ1RIgqTXTJKg5QUQzZzD4WTqG1s2j.7ocV.og89IMdxKygH5ctKUZ6ZwnQkdMp6D4Aamrv810UED.7lbbz6qgbC9pR4IPHSA1Pgv6SfoNgVi2a9EHYn9SLPzz9Yxbuc5Ym9TZEAT9CAZnaSlv8gziVRIbdBZZJtH9yNk6FL_4fjXB91zTRPYzHUcQ7O6DASEwblrUni3Bca0lm8rtNWva_t74qvQuiIaR5sHW7buJiQXsXwk6Hrrq7VpfEub4li.SuEpSKRyokmdsMqocNgMG_jQGAcHwxW8srwUpmJ3JrdaGRgQKjFipqdVcNHIkD9rQORO4dmwjSR8GdIjYaZTsqsHI8l.vXJf6Iylvuyh3L.LRF7Vbs5UvTUa2O85E6diBFe.qc4x6CMM0Od8I8DbE8v7XR6TsJeq X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 17:46:51 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Re: NEXUS HAYMAZE - UPDATE - LOCATION CHANGE 2nd location is a bust. I'll keep folx posted.=0A=0A=0A ------------------= ----------------------------------=0Awww.redstickman.com=0A=0A=0Ablah blah = blah listen to my crappy music blah blah=0A--------------------------------= --------------------=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: michael= the redstickman =0ATo: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0ASen= t: Fri, November 6, 2009 11:15:12 AM=0ASubject: NEXUS HAYMAZE - UPDATE - LO= CATION CHANGE=0A=0AATTENTION EVERYONE=E2=80=A6=0A=0AThe Maze Party has unde= rgone some major changes in the last few days.=0AThere is a small faction o= f the local community who has taken it upon=0Athemselves to worry and fret = about every conceivable aspect of the=0Aevent and managed to generate serio= us concern from every imaginable=0Acorner of the authoritative infrastructu= re. Much of the trouble has=0Abeen initiated as a result of long standing = family feud that has=0Aabsolutely nothing to do with us, we just happen to = have got stuck in=0Athe middle. We have jumped through hoops of all sizes a= nd color this=0Aweek and each morning a new pile of hoops has presented the= mselves. We=0Ado not feel that we should subject our friends and family to= the drama=0Athat is going on around that property this year. It=E2=80=99s= a long and=0Acomplicated story that we really don=E2=80=99t need to get ou= rselves involved=0Awith. Rubber bullets and handcuffs.=0A=0AHOWEVER, IN TY= PICAL NEXUS FASION WE HAVE DECIDED THAT THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!!=0A=0AWe have= made some calls and found ourselves approximately 1200 acres in=0Athe Sant= a Cruz Mountains entirely at our disposal and we are going to=0Ado it. We = will be setting up as much of the infrastructure of our=0ABurning Man camp = as possible on such short notice and everything we had=0Aplanned for the or= iginal maze party on the property. We=E2=80=99re keeping the=0Alineup, ext= ending the hours, adding DJ slots and making it into a=0Acampout. The only= catch is that we can=E2=80=99t announce the exact location=0Aon this threa= d because the spies might be watching. So the MAZE is=0Astill happening, t= he focus of the maze has just changed. Instead of=0Awandering through the = confines of 8-14 ft. high hay bail walls, now the=0Amaze becomes how to fin= d the party. Good Luck, get on the phone, get=0Aon the internet, send a tw= itter, release a pigeon, figure it out. I=0Alove you, I know you can do it= !=0A=0AIf we went through with the old plan we would be at the mercy of=0Ae= ntirely too many authoritative powers who would more than likely put a=0Ahu= ge damper on our fun. This way, we can do what we want and all get=0Atoget= her and have one of the most memorable weekends of the year. Have=0Ano fea= r my fellow friends. Nexus will prevail!=0A=0APlease note that this event = is for ages 18 and up. If you would like=0Ato request a refund because you= are underage, or for any of the reasons=0Astated above, please contact Bro= wn Paper Tickets at 1-800-838-3006=0Abefore ticket sales end at 9am on Nov.= 7th.=0A=0A=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151599-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Nov 07 21:51:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35883 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Nov 2009 21:51:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35863 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2009 21:51:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257630728; bh=YVAqitwKnwX+Maaat4yQdvnGTkbutoASOUFfjvPx6B0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ls4RaV3ery5kU7twLbX0uzvoMVFl2afzcT3+0spnv/B9bF6foikNo2bsFXO4QToliLO3EahIibv2U6kxxzzfppi9Mo9Ke25TKoVQRNS7vH9PqU2nYY8yJtwGccRMo6EWZ5aMnUb3zQnOHstIYcM9EFpI2QHq5DKc7z3P5T044FQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m7KUmSn52pZ2KPdmOrv+WONZ1SMHAzxGGVOL4JSl0cYX3UL6bprNIKVQLzc5HIB9CQxYj9RCz/2T69GBwpDbosGbmh32fxxEUGJ606qtswAO7vl1o8mLI13ekqlqG8HYIWKorg3jEfSTowP0WlLF0zPt2hnXqkFJ/VcuEJvTI0I=; Message-ID: <601719.74550.qm@web50012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uX_4oyAVM1miOR1L0DBEfYlcKYTZXXI4ZfFpcLYVsd8ttHptc9WlzBkvHQsmJNjhJBXqM1GJ4RQK4LqJPf8pg2bRNDmBWjc3LkbWypJil1azHWfYQesAWmTjsLz94OK.jHMsYV9U7y82O7XTVuu7tf1_OgQG0Drinf_tvekhCCSy0M7hITz_bwdEjMSLdJIGSbG59ZVF8lr4h8fY9xIA7Jax0aIsSsJTO4FDazdRnSg7LEd3A8Yg6C.aQZyeCCvDVhfWt.aBhYtaqcPvrrlJQkc7s7jH52JpCTTvTWZsHO_KUH5BBnrwZcZpvLSLKGGEryeKRD8LqJCKaaM4tl5xQX_CuxD6XdAcQBdh6hYNn0UkaRN.wDRYUIBIxH4Ui2G28tn3M3b6iprl71uxbkXeq1Ute.QyDB3mnN3louloO5NqJZFlEiCwQ5e.UFO8xbCJWDKarkv3yln4k2V3BWth2RbeGJa1wsNjuGIix7wuK_C9aNWGzoWsA1enT_ZZPDPxTV0QBOFcF65ORT5n81Vg1Ny39Z0tbhVWl3Sa.SSmiJX9lGWBc8Th66EQghICxQQQW3Nv6xE_aWMWkkDCkeTpio74hUtNz29nXtFAn9Rq42_NtoUm6KrkZPGQ X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 13:52:08 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] NEXUS PARTY - LOCATION CHANGE as of 1:52pm Saturday new location: SF, kelly's mission rock: http://nexusorg.org/2009/events/lost-found-nov-7th/ ---------------------------------------------------- www.redstickman.com blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151600-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Nov 08 21:11:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38911 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Nov 2009 21:11:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38891 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2009 21:11:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=FR8mdTdr2pS4GkbQ9EfzTKlR/VoVxj1BlFB+63zwKEM=; b=BGVBZIC2C/8Iu8yXtB7Nu2z/0QfVBiZjWRSsiqHjEwEXnbp6HznsSJqBaUB6sy6T2l bL2nZ1Uw9VVfbrLt78FJbgT8AUxMCwj3HUg5nDy7xUyfE4OMWEV/DnOZ3t/p6Ppsz1sC OEQHsrTvDOEfAlz3MEMiH23Ey/8DiEge7thX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=sghBnH7cwo9i/75bG0TfvaJtweO5CoRTQ2sMqbCK4nWiziKDFJCVYLkP+mEIy4a1ZJ OaBxp5GqU/nqz4fPowJZvO8ympAvRzz/rtavaodt1wMR8yqxo8ILA8gs3veXhINErqWx hfPnxLFud+cD0bMhUq3WLMtg6qdjQMbWZSu+g= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 13:12:29 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd14bece147b60477e2884c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl --000e0cd14bece147b60477e2884c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on vinyl. Who's got some wax to sell? --000e0cd14bece147b60477e2884c-- From sfraves-return-151601-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 09 02:13:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40585 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Nov 2009 02:13:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40566 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 02:13:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=P1Qf5Nno08zvp2VT5zwObrxegph4fWBCx+sIhff7sL4=; b=cpuxxxlbHxZG4fT/xfZh/GcvEZXgMs+fBIE1x/vCXJVeXFtyPBl3IetwGMlld9+0hh +O+3V7pL9rDoWTtFWvenWO0eOTe5APCThWALnYv248g2HjUZjP8FTFeemYS2VZm5ocAV hHtFMUCkdskfnSeM3MAIEpjvvX0eLt9jeLUIs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=MwiBQLLYOK/O1oYLJNk2RJVuvuXJc2Rdhuvywtf5w1s3tiRhmLE6FhGKQnnoQnfvuA +UwzpbqnGv4CIUegN61RF47VSHE+SIyU1Dda/JL58fnWD++9I6bZ+X/1UojAQ5w3iB25 gZhG0r09Z6IBP11kmoZBQJmEPHuuaVMmYlCwQ= Message-ID: <4AF77AC9.3060200@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:13:29 -0800 From: Sean Ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matt Stone , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl Matt Stone wrote: > Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on vinyl. > Who's got some wax to sell? > > i have a friend in berlin who runs a shop with all used stuff. basically its the only used electronic record store in berlin so it keeps coming up with treasure. www.audio-in.net. though he sells to people internationally mostly on discogs.com last i heard. http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?seller=audio-in i've gotten stuff i've never found online there. for stuff you can't find there, i'd recommend hitting up either gemm.com, htfr.co.uk, or discogs.com marketplace. you'll be very broke, and very happy in a very short amount of time. teh-know! sean. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151602-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 09 03:18:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83756 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Nov 2009 03:18:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83737 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 03:18:23 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Message-Id: <32ACD82A-52A8-489D-84EF-701AC3592AA4@technoprisoners.org> From: orotoro To: Matt Stone In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cp932; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 14:34:45 -0800 References: X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl get in line. =F0J '0ro+or0' =F6=DC On Nov 8, 2009, at 13:12, Matt Stone wrote: > Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on vinyl. > Who's got some wax to sell? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151603-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 09 03:33:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93098 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Nov 2009 03:33:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93080 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 03:33:31 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=cp932; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: orotoro In-Reply-To: <32ACD82A-52A8-489D-84EF-701AC3592AA4@technoprisoners.org> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:34:14 -0800 Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8AFF6E1E-6BE2-4402-8348-E8B2ADA22AA9@technoprisoners.org> References: <32ACD82A-52A8-489D-84EF-701AC3592AA4@technoprisoners.org> To: orotoro X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] GOING DIGITAL? Re: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl I am buying wax in bulk. Going digital? Sell me your whole collection. Techno, Electro, Jungle and Hiphop only (some house tolerated). : ) Thanks, andy On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:34 PM, orotoro wrote: > get in line. > > =F0J '0ro+or0' =F6=DC > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 13:12, Matt Stone =20 > wrote: > >> Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on =20 >> vinyl. >> Who's got some wax to sell? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151604-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 09 03:46:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1996 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Nov 2009 03:46:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1977 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 03:46:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1ZcTMDGSaK3gVrLqnxUr0LCzWPCodujCV+bJx37HpC8=; b=d38U8k35eHf7CztBe9QEPkmh77K7oBcW+/cMxSZK9XhiRiEoVpowsumFes1ExqKXMO 8XWw2MwvKy+nKMiU9bKS2gQEnNvYkT5pAiM6Q+Mg4xcrtn9V2QEbZlaXZzIVzZfyF1Ko jR+ANP0mgAzRqeZzGSN0zSfosL/e+vRaLCxOA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=HqAXU06uRob+CEjOqucTP2i8iSvqkPNG6L+h6h/Tzo8ds9p+ZlH8RLN3FxxDF0LV/T Gcv5YwOsXjmaB4hW72yuoiCnVNSCBWcggSV/iypfygdMmA/LTQKlfihsD+1EKTYhLyLt aW72IYJHt5W/7W/1vQRC1Axew9xvaSCFulIP0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8AFF6E1E-6BE2-4402-8348-E8B2ADA22AA9@technoprisoners.org> References: <32ACD82A-52A8-489D-84EF-701AC3592AA4@technoprisoners.org> <8AFF6E1E-6BE2-4402-8348-E8B2ADA22AA9@technoprisoners.org> Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 19:47:12 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: orotoro Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd296928375280477e80c36 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] GOING DIGITAL? Re: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl --000e0cd296928375280477e80c36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bastard: ) On Nov 8, 2009 7:34 PM, "orotoro" wrote: I am buying wax in bulk. Going digital? Sell me your whole collection. Techno, Electro, Jungle and Hiphop only (some house tolerated). : ) Thanks, andy On Nov 8, 2009, at 2:34 PM, orotoro wrote: get in line. > > =EE=80=8A '0ro+or0' =EE=94=83 > > On Nov 8, 2009, at 13:12, Matt Stone wrote: > > Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on vinyl. >> Who's got some wax to sell? >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --000e0cd296928375280477e80c36-- From sfraves-return-151605-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Nov 09 19:54:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64539 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Nov 2009 19:54:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64509 invoked from network); 9 Nov 2009 19:54:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1257796543; bh=47EDK2m/rZOewYR1BX7IavPf5w7m2UfyaRh/mHlqhNI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IPW995yf+R90PE/syfeznNuCH+k+WFsZVe+zQpOFS/ia2bNhd0a3O0MEGrQIS4IuWFAV5oxjYh5KlIQW4u9yN8R3QQYrv1+5xoDDXrbv1i0PEls7aLf+/vh1ULDsJwOOKELDpx8TL6iq+AMepTduCw7fX2r3/XuPSbfh736Ht5M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HmMaTvsVkdFKoI0QR4v/jjiJXxcadSP0UNddTdIfVbUnCDg3epuNsd/+FsWp9qDSYEO1Te8mbzxSmXZO9tas69YZoSs5o7YAG0oQ+nNpTRTUhOWKJFHIxXaW4hPw6hXjSVlYGE8q8x1979eh4MN172o6z1yAuzbiZ7YcPpg76hU=; Message-ID: <828314.90298.qm@web50006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QPSVnzQVM1laUir4SNXHCmoo_SzhZwRPg6Z6FxthGc_JJJWwkWgk6xVN9Zud1NjSkBWHhydgwBw2t4SU7ThMjdPD4m0_UkzzGwzIWvO2Fjcxz77JQAsI_CDMmb7.43lS2ySlDgLnkeirqykHWPDOoRE13hYj73z5aMQGy0ZL35Nmoz9ujCZSZq0hZ8I8hHTlPRFWXf_iZMQEG5p92NeXtxhNE.BeaOI3NV4ra3PoMxoPj4nCSDRPuxjvS_nyMAVYL8N.AUEkKbN0OSd155cQN6iWpTMguIsdQE5TAKH494DLQNJQ2zRcOUxy8DAaEIG_xctXwaULCofx0uFiuC6fiI0tqL3yOnklpoak_C45QSD_3XlUaiu8wAj8YwI4fNcfNB5ZTx7lQ_bkGh7zckUw8ultBNzkQK3D3XxPXqIMDDqReyZl40T.qkCE7RZID1psDycKObfm5uE- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/211.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 11:55:43 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: Matt Stone , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl I'm slowly going thru and blowing out my collection of 70+ crates of vinyl. acid house, tech house, techno, acid techno, trance-no, progressive, gay disco house, dubby house, electroclash, some d+b, downtempo. am selling individual pieces for top dollar if you want to come by my house and preview, BUT am willing to blow out entire lots of 100+ records at super cheap prices. serious inquiries only. ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Stone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 1:12:29 PM Subject: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on vinyl. Who's got some wax to sell? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151606-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 11 00:12:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84964 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Nov 2009 00:12:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84937 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2009 00:12:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=D+FeToM+2ttmATLXcd3LS942UklgYOIM4dVqWLDEexg=; b=lAGXljwx7Q+rQf22/Bi41tCit5NRRMvBGq0U7jdXbyF+WObGhemTqHyzfBh84QlvZr F6aPn27hkAtE+Slov90Kah2voEmttFy+UKedSLWo7NGQKDrQu1uLzT7Lftt8kUqjtG1S +3/tAWouN0a9V6Kp/+09jGBhkr9JI/dAVAe7Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=wSg+XcFXHYxjF0mMYRXX1rCJSlOhP9aV5r62h+jZRDd6BJyY3ZgH1hswS0qx9KChQX ssR6/RDaRqSKO20/uc8GpXj6SP1GNDBEpK3LBm8qlMVv2p3u8QdlGbek4krWU1TpzMLJ wSEQLj7YEFAMjr1jjeq1cMvlpGRP7fBJc/DsM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:13:41 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9300911101613y5f7bdfddp95e3935f4524c126@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: Matt Stone Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59be28f26b904780d4c71 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking to buy acid vinyl --000e0cd59be28f26b904780d4c71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 i've got a couple crates of randomness sitting around that used to belong to James Bass. mostly oldish techno and house. he just gave it all to me. not sure what in there is worthwhile, but if anyone wants to come by and poke around, hit me up. i'm sure i'd sell 'em pretty damn cheap. but its also fun to keep around and just pull out random cuts sometimes too. :) ---> gb On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > Looking for classic acid house, tech house, teknow, whatever on vinyl. > Who's got some wax to sell? > --000e0cd59be28f26b904780d4c71-- From sfraves-return-151607-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 12 22:10:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39251 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Nov 2009 22:10:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39234 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2009 22:10:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=MaBQEuQltRldnOV1AxRb7EUt9yistKCMhKtvDonOOzE=; b=aYNsDSddfOtEFlU5r3+7/RIkjXILBfv8eIfDLXH46ThRUkGbGkHwZ5h8Qm/2VLZHXs YmWX1Okux9SZKoDcisGTrHpqXx3gAt2/y17v3Xec6N4Hy9ASo0hjc+NbCRMNWDIKZqgH w3JyCsDJF6GQZ+KxwJwKgAek0VdK26bVUG9ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=tIdAr6tCKR+rgJVNb3JIJmxynV7D3FmzaFv+Jq7t6SCTlpAP57+cIllDm1aRzye6th /cJAA2eZDc8PO7nWE3nquuTFYsmUqjqQCVuSmfbd4REhsh/K7m41WHqlHKwcveoPaT/k EP9IkHU1USGp2kQOu/+twEGQwrUtqWbxNkNAI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:11:41 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1723aeed47f047833d3af X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Best needles anymore --000e0cd1723aeed47f047833d3af Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What are the best (where best is defined by most durable and best sounding to play on a pair of mackies and a sub, for as cheap as possible) turntable cartridges? ~Matt aka robot head --000e0cd1723aeed47f047833d3af-- From sfraves-return-151608-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 13 00:42:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57901 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Nov 2009 00:42:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57880 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 00:42:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=iRT5jlAp57KbIZUYu71QTpy03+MedM9rKg3K7eTJgXI=; b=CqX1sq6svJ5kyYMAe5A2guQIzHNe7Se4o09Wp+CS57oVuvnLZ9rPSeMjoj5OC2U0Lm 2TxWl8KeCc9Ef0CUW5gs4hRH01rMgRMx4FUuQrKgpsWWAi5nS8N8ZzHThmFFJPaBC/ri dowW/RC+LSbexfeb0Z2DpxYCrY+XyltedFoW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=pv5WjKn16yQmcQADags9rouhGGxWjI9sx4Um6N/KI9iO1q36GErNaoL/SLWGEPZ4gd kSemnoPfVB5Mq4w8COmKI8aexu82eZ19xDPl7wzohQsv/cm1N76rCECuyI9Q2Ed3lhrf iXnTBPyyzO7B7RcP2pg8CEQT2Vn/nT88wS5mE= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:42:59 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9300911121642v12a98e82w9dbaf7c99e7e82b3@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6b0160e9dad047835f142 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Dan Bell (DBX) Saturday @ 222 Hyde! SF exclusive FIVE HOUR SET. --000e0cd6b0160e9dad047835f142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Saturday, November 14th, 2009 g.bird presents "From the Beginning... ...To the End" An evening with DANIEL BELL (Accellerate . 7th City . Perlon) * 5 hour DJ set * exclusive SF appearance * super clear Turbosound sound system * intimate 100 person event :) Located at our beloved "rave cave", 222 Hyde Street, SF 9pm - 2am / 21+ / $20 ____________________________________________________________ That's right folks...he's back! One year ago this dance music legend performed a feat of DJing that blew minds and rocked worlds when he played an epic NINE HOUR continuous set for us without so much as stopping to take a pee. This was Dan's longest set he'd ever played, and he never missed a beat. To many people there, myself included, this event will be filed amongst their favorite dancefloor memories EVER. If you were there, you know exactly what I mean. If not, you missed something truly special that will be talked about for years. Now, one year later, Mr. DBX himself returns with another extended voyage into the button down mind of an icon. Although he is currently touring the US, at every other stop he'll be playing a standard 2 hour set. But since Dan has such a special relationship to this city, we've talked him into going FIVE, from the first notes of the evening at 9pm, to the final song when the lights come up at 2am. SO.... You're probably asking, HOW DO I GET IN ON THIS??? Pretty simple. Either pay me the $20 admission charge in person sometime this week, (some of you already have), or send in the money via PayPal and include the first and last names of the people who will be attending. This event will be "will call" only. Meaning, once you've secured your spot, your name will be on a list at the front door upon arrival, and you simply show your ID to get in. Also, THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT. You know this. In fact, it's quite possible it will sell out within a day or so, so please don't lollygag if you'd like to join us. The 100 spots available are first come, first served, and OVER HALF ARE ALREADY GONE. You snooze...you lose! There will be NO cash accepted at the door from people not already on the will call list. I do apologize about the steep price, but to see someone of this caliber in such an intimate location (on a Saturday night no less) this is what needs to be charged. Artist and booking fees, roundtrip airfare from NYC, hotel, transportation, and the extra $150 I've paid for him to bring a second crate of vinyl from Europe...well, it all adds up. So please understand that due to these factors and the fact that this event will be filled with friends and colleagues, having a guest list is simply not possible. Everybody's gotta pony up! ____________________________________________________________ To secure your spot for Saturday, either: *** Pay me in person between now and Saturday afternoon. (This will save you a buck and some internet BS.) OR *** Send $21 per attendee via PayPal to danielbell222@gmail.com (Extra dollar covers PayPal fees.) Before completing the payment, be sure to include your FIRST AND LAST NAME in the comments field. If you are paying for more than one person, include the full names of each guest. Feel free to let your friends know, but please DO NOT re-post this info publicy. We're trying to make sure all the right peeps get a chance to attend before we sell out! If you don't have a PayPal account, it's easy and free to sign up for one at http://www.paypal.com. If that's not an option for you, ask a friend who does have a Pay Pal account to pay for you and give them cash. Again, there will be NO cash transactions at the door. IF YOUR PAYMENT ARRIVES AFTER WE HAVE REACHED CAPACITY, your money will be refunded via PayPal and you will receive notification. Get 'em now so this doesn't happen to you! ____________________________________________________________ If you have any further questions, please hit me up via Facebook, by email at this address, or by phone at 415-305-8754. Do not send personal correspondence to the (payment only) PayPal address above, as it will not be read or responded to. Thanks for reading, sorry for the long post, and I hope to see you Saturday! ----> Greg Bird --000e0cd6b0160e9dad047835f142-- From sfraves-return-151609-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 13 04:09:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33217 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Nov 2009 04:09:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33196 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 04:09:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=7snZNAibJy7N1GS1E38HvZ8FvCVhewpkUTK/bnmNFQs=; b=jslzuvIKyjVpIZzKwVzjvIE7V2C/zakcixaz65wrEijILvorUD0KCC8INGiu6N4m/C 0H4v5x3Pv6we3xBnetk2NCFIgRbF407ZPOVAqU2Qc4RiN8A4GJKQ+Wa33nvuItycHzWL veimVY35jpB2DpBtyPC/UgPWia1yP8mn6Nuq0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=wDOV2MgU2XGG+Kj7hb+xqB6UGeaXFsZEUjozY7wWSNNKHEaty5Ir8//BrmGqJ45M9p NTwhNgaTeZos0L4dnogyROOC3eT6WYC7vKge1eY2Z2Y1qez/k33GhxV1jiBWSZNeTRKs Itu5MCk2nk5eQ56JPCX/AqJYz/F8gdg5U06KQ= References: Message-Id: From: syntaax To: Matt Stone In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7C144) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7C144) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:09:44 -0800 Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) But they're not cheap. Best bass response, tracking, etc. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > What are the best (where best is defined by most durable and best > sounding > to play on a pair of mackies and a sub, for as cheap as possible) > turntable > cartridges? > > ~Matt aka robot head --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151610-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 13 04:24:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44671 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Nov 2009 04:24:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44596 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 04:24:20 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:24:36 +0000 From: Holt Sorenson To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Message-ID: <20091113042436.GG25085@hsomusic.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:09:44PM -0800, syntaax wrote: > Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) But they're not cheap. Best bass > response, tracking, etc. I've heard fairly consistent positive comments about these carts. I also have them. I'll bring them down to the station monday and you can play on them, Matt. -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com - http://hsomusic.com facebook.com/hsomusic - myspace.com/hsomusic - twitter.com/hsomusic KZSU (http://kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151611-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 13 04:28:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48344 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Nov 2009 04:28:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48324 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 04:28:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/M0HgRK4cWwpabtGmf/X8W9dbJshHUQoYN9O9tRcxtc=; b=WhaoqoCqEaJjyF6ALrlSOvc2JyJ6/VKCpu9eutzZHacEXUrhgzKOy58SmtyI8BKwmB bVomjKTlsHX70kdDps295bC5Ifl0ioqIMv+1LW6K85WE/OCJrU5RDnKzi3/4SEBSQ5wo 5k8Vmoqv5tMgnb9ztJXyb1HUYgwxpc1rhlrHQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YD0pkxczDf14UH4lWZmKERL/66Pjtq1uBii/fOOHLIT7EvrIQ6f7XF9+ab1D/u/g4N 77hxqrHCJEbsGOhtn7ZM6sM2FL872oIwkb/B/ShAM78zS1ZkGJAo5aZmWIy1WZHgFQHH UfejTEBY1BBcL2VEBOjkeNDh+RBiMtCcIKAAg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091113042436.GG25085@hsomusic.com> References: <20091113042436.GG25085@hsomusic.com> Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:29:14 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Holt Sorenson Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd253e8310e6a0478391a54 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore --000e0cd253e8310e6a0478391a54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Holt Sorenson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:09:44PM -0800, syntaax wrote: > > Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) But they're not cheap. Best bass > > response, tracking, etc. > > I've heard fairly consistent positive comments about these carts. > > I also have them. > > I'll bring them down to the station monday and you can play on them, > Matt. > Word, haha, I'll have to go to storage and dig out my house records :D > > -- > Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove > hso@hsomusic.com - http://hsomusic.com > facebook.com/hsomusic - myspace.com/hsomusic - twitter.com/hsomusic > KZSU (http://kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd253e8310e6a0478391a54-- From sfraves-return-151612-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 13 04:29:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49896 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Nov 2009 04:29:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49878 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 04:29:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=o6jt1MA2EgqenO4A96bPZz27wCZSzwiis65PGcheRLU=; b=mI6Gjg9DN54Q/D3FhgNKEQqGQInlcDqf5S38OogljpdWV405lYIaSJfeBCCwmkqB/8 WHthRrumdUWIe1mb1uLO4+Ya6Zh6aqdRw0emYb75JBQTTSB3L/QnyEBF0rLxDYBLlwin uamryA0nqbQWAjOmSfu3TxxiOxc6tf40ckV2s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=rT7grmNjZQzSd5lDI6X9Y/puHf3mdyDINpKh0U7PwL7Ns3mBQ1SD2zvXh5DN+k7XNZ ckUIh7bZDEc7r5n76xuAeojRrwz4aemEL1ZSPa7m4+cSUuTQ7GUbeh6opm3DPC4W4Ygt NfKx/EBibNsxIyBB+AUubVJC8/LtdA6DuVSWo= Sender: Scott Solmonson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1076) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes From: Scott Solmonson In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:30:29 -0800 Cc: Matt Stone , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: To: syntaax X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1076) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore Everyone needs a little bling! http://www.ortofon-dj.com/products/cartridges/209 I'm not the guy to ask but I can't believe much has changed in this arena in the past 10 years- Shure Whitelabel and Ortofon Nightclub were/are(?) standards :) -- NUNQUAM NON PARATUS V: 408.718.6290 On Nov 12, 2009, at 8:09 PM, syntaax wrote: > Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) But they're not cheap. Best > bass response, tracking, etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Matt Stone > wrote: > >> What are the best (where best is defined by most durable and best >> sounding >> to play on a pair of mackies and a sub, for as cheap as possible) >> turntable >> cartridges? >> >> ~Matt aka robot head > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151613-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 13 23:51:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55840 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Nov 2009 23:51:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55817 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2009 23:51:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258156359; bh=mgUlbXV2xBjGZS1y69M4S0XBRUD46Fnr7nH4uhM+294=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e5Uu51E2KniWsgf8fnfpKHJHyV8n/vALOCgqTyvPeqjlOc0FOldpo6Nc1XnVhedcmZPbAjwvl2K8mySSAUN+xm+z9pgZpV9BA1oIIsgFzG9Dcr9+qGcoPZCQjXxNofoqMrWiuITTBa/q4QX+PxSbSuj7xcmrUmaFTJOr1QMfY2o= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CLK2/rwR/ekqmWBd/MZDDfO7QjXPYVQPvBWS9RxHzi87ucMtS85DHs8x4Gq3tUTejy9YZoRkvSTwIt8S+QyIQ6lhtEroKv2yqU5pvcZFGK3qC2lqQ61+ubBUbOqsEiaHdUvxSoRo5j8134WD0jnVmoLqpsGNNxaFe+VPH+vz7L0=; Message-ID: <849729.23401.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ocKuU3AVM1k22Yx_mw9f98TTmF9mkbqGCWjP1hynCiDDQhZpLBpF.yDXqu2ZGxtwpLBOnsNg5J0O2wOBETZPrS6MPZw7Nns4EUfa1IjrJMSF6oe4AdJLhrOMDGZ65jW7mvjlT17Pdl2paw90nXojTaP2iVfrzt2KjdfpqEGY8J5ZTG1wDXOgTI1Dm13sGhUXELr4bqB8uanvETQhqyo_S.PKmU2hgSXs6bqytOT5TrkNqwm9kFRuUr.evHWa.mgIGuQqQ7pkBnLhe2b1cTKNO3jRu7U45PR2HZ.kG2OugAh_eB5N_4akJbkDv.F0zEI1zS6rITsTL78VzMg7_7Rqu1A1xKDp48sxPesr1VLN X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.7.361.4 Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Uncle Noah To: Matt Stone , syntaax Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore second _________________________________________________________________________ "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael Jackson --- On Thu, 11/12/09, syntaax wrote: > From: syntaax > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore > To: "Matt Stone" > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 8:09 PM > Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) > But they're not cheap. Best bass response, tracking, etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Matt Stone > wrote: > > > What are the best (where best is defined by most > durable and best sounding > > to play on a pair of mackies and a sub, for as cheap > as possible) turntable > > cartridges? > > > > ~Matt aka robot head > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151614-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Nov 14 00:36:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91877 invoked by uid 1103); 14 Nov 2009 00:36:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91859 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 00:36:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <849729.23401.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <849729.23401.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:36:53 -0800 Message-ID: <42a0b30f0911131636l10e15a93m6a1fb83071ada52c@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: Uncle Noah Cc: Matt Stone , syntaax , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd24d9e16f167047849f9d4 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore --000e0cd24d9e16f167047849f9d4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 been a long while since I hung up my headphones but whitelabels seem to have better track wear, with good skip resistance and slightly better sound purity, though the M44-7-G is more rugged, will have fuller bass, and can handle back cueing better. Neither's cheap but the M44-7s are easier to find good prices on. If you luck out you'll see whitelabels on ebay for half price though, and they come in that nice box (and no fiddly screws assembling em) that makes you look cooler when you pull em up for a set. ;) -R. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Uncle Noah wrote: > > second > > _________________________________________________________________________ > "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael > Jackson > > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, syntaax wrote: > > > From: syntaax > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore > > To: "Matt Stone" > > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 8:09 PM > > Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) > > But they're not cheap. Best bass response, tracking, etc. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Matt Stone > > wrote: > > > > > What are the best (where best is defined by most > > durable and best sounding > > > to play on a pair of mackies and a sub, for as cheap > > as possible) turntable > > > cartridges? > > > > > > ~Matt aka robot head > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd24d9e16f167047849f9d4-- From sfraves-return-151615-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Nov 14 00:54:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7071 invoked by uid 1103); 14 Nov 2009 00:54:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7048 invoked from network); 14 Nov 2009 00:54:25 -0000 References: <849729.23401.qm@web31103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <42a0b30f0911131636l10e15a93m6a1fb83071ada52c@mail.gmail.com> To: rayw@rayw.net, unclenoah@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:54:57 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.146.89.84 In-Reply-To: <42a0b30f0911131636l10e15a93m6a1fb83071ada52c@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: djhil2sf@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CC32DC38AC8893_FD0_32DC_webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 28878-STANDARD Cc: matthew.d.stone@gmail.com, syntaax@gmail.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CC32DC38A0A1AE-FD0-18DF@webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: DjHil2SF@aol.com X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore ----------MB_8CC32DC38AC8893_FD0_32DC_webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Like I've said before better tracking usually means more wear on vinyl.= M44-7G, if tone arm geometry set right then, it will have minimal wear bu= t, that means where ever you take those needles, most likely you will have= to adjust the tone arm geometry and counter balance. The Ortofon Nightclu= bs do well in almost any tone arm set up and will have minimal wear on vin= yl. Hil. =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Ray Wong To: Uncle Noah Cc: Matt Stone ; syntaax ;= sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, Nov 13, 2009 4:36 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore been a long while since I hung up my headphones but whitelabels seem to ha= ve better track wear, with good skip resistance and slightly better sound purity, though the M44-7-G is more rugged, will have fuller bass, and can handle back cueing better. Neither's cheap but the M44-7s are easier to find good prices on. If you luck out you'll see whitelabels on ebay for half price though, and they co= me in that nice box (and no fiddly screws assembling em) that makes you look cooler when you pull em up for a set. ;) -R. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Uncle Noah wrote: > > second > > ________________________________________________________________________= _ > "Just because it's in print doesn't mean it's the gospel. " -Michael > Jackson > > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, syntaax wrote: > > > From: syntaax > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Best needles anymore > > To: "Matt Stone" > > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 8:09 PM > > Best in my opinion is Shure M44-7(G) > > But they're not cheap. Best bass response, tracking, etc. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Nov 12, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Matt Stone > > wrote: > > > > > What are the best (where best is defined by most > > durable and best sounding > > > to play on a pair of mackies and a sub, for as cheap > > as possible) turntable > > > cartridges? > > > > > > ~Matt aka robot head > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > =20 ----------MB_8CC32DC38AC8893_FD0_32DC_webmail-m069.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-151616-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Nov 15 04:33:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38828 invoked by uid 1103); 15 Nov 2009 04:33:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38810 invoked from network); 15 Nov 2009 04:33:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pgWNI1BhxaPibnIdQNe3M7y5gxYB+IBFjSMsHt6veSE=; b=RYFEjG3gVZC3SWu1aMiNc4QVcWdW92AxWWtBqfmdQy/y5kV2T2WfVgJABLwb66rWfY J7FJ/RT4BX6zD+dB7ePii6nmBkcYU4JT2ILHlkdVDL5hj/xWISYhrWc/la9OMqRdxfMW AQAjbHULnyDT+12erB/lYq6jqSuhAJ1y8eAuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=LHO9uoPZJPB5ZpSx2jjXPAHeIIqg84uobG1M5IZpS+/omEzFVho2v0IPquHHm22zkf 2o60aeBeSXsa10OIzMOcAspLqpRCzsGhHPYVY1YlRPWcC2sI/vYQRXCw4QKcWqy/baEj wkbiQysAs+RnzGXRAq+xA1o5FYzMwtmab40jg= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:34:23 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9300911142034s5393d5d0sdfbe6d046e439e34@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2a10a43e57b04786168fc X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BUMMER! --000e0cd2a10a43e57b04786168fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Due to a nasty case of the flu, Dan Bell was forced to cancel his trip to SF and will not be performing tonight. :( Don't worry, everyone who paid will receive a full refund. We will still be rocking it tonight @ 222 and the party is now FREE. Come get your swerve on with all the money you just saved. ;) NEW LINEUP: 09:00-10:30 MossMoss 10:30-12:30 Moniker (Eo + Kenneth Scott) 12:30-02:00 Sammy D Sorry folks, hope to see some of you out anyways. These are some of my favorite local DJs! -----> GB --000e0cd2a10a43e57b04786168fc-- From sfraves-return-151617-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 18 21:05:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40768 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Nov 2009 21:05:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 40749 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 21:05:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=sqy8yymaO6iXov53gFjALWW3mO1JwNmjWrYkU7/YM+8=; b=tTqqPZQj4i7EY6ed8GzD5wItXi4DkQ2sHtZCOyo2NgV+eSBeHFEdWgdp/GnyTZi3hP BQNvNy6t+cfLW19HOIRuBKD5BJy+R0O2jEJv7xfEidK4I1WdCMeI5aTrhG5L2IqO4mYz kguY2v/02xiXn2S7kXvvdo07iHWU6pPJ873v4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S9IVTAry2QI5GmAoNBLUUhUR0eIrmSUrdJ2padgD0gzX6LC3b9bXgRqYtyio4Pmp+p MCGo8/dTcHWxnCgPp25RP0QmH3MqzbaB5BlO3GBTWX/1Tllz8eKYNs0IJI7vl3KE15zp 0qML+voWQzxCt4fG11D+MQymkSdBwkLGGEFk0= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 13:06:15 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd20ff40353990478ab9dbf X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Mainstreaming Psychadelics: From FDA to Harvard to Burning Man --000e0cd20ff40353990478ab9dbf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Check out this techtalk given at Google about psychadelics: http://www.youtube.com/user/googletechtalks?blend=1&ob=4#p/u/0/NwAGkGpv6Ss Abstract: Presented by Rick Doblin, Ph.D., Executive Director MAPS. We're now in the midst of a worldwide renaissance in psychedelic research, after decades of political suppression. Even media reports, which usually mention in passing the widespread use of psychedelics by the counterculture in the 1960s, are more hopeful than alarming. In this talk, we'll review the factors which led to the backlash and the lessons to be learned, discuss how the FDA opened the door to research around the world, how the ghost of Timothy Leary was buried at Harvard, and how Burning Man struggles to respond to people who have difficult psychedelic experiences. We'll conclude by explaining how non-profit drug development, initially of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for postraumatic stress disorder (PTSD), can transform psychedelics into FDA-approved prescription medicines and can lay the groundwork for the successful, long-term integration of psychedelics into the mainstream of medicine, religion, art, creativity, and celebration. Rick founded MAPS in 1986. His dissertation [ http://www.maps.org/dissertation/] (Public Policy, Harvards Kennedy School of Government) was on "The Regulation of the Medical Use of Psychedelics and Marijuana," and his masters thesis [ http://www.maps.org/docs/doblin-mt.html] (Harvard) focused on the attitudes and experiences of oncologists concerning the medical use of marijuana. His undergraduate thesis [ http://www.maps.org/research/cluster/psilo-lsd/goodfriday.p df] (New College of Florida) was a twenty-five year follow-up to the classic Good Friday Experiment [http://www.maps.org/books/pahnke/index.html], which evaluated the potential of psychedelic drugs to catalyze religious experiences. He has also conducted a thirty-four year follow-up study to Tim Learys Concord Prison experiment [ http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v09n4/09410con.html]. Rick studied with Stan Grof, M.D., and was in the first group to become certified as holotropic breathwork practitioners. His professional goal is to help develop legal contexts for the beneficial uses of psychedelics and marijuana, primarily as prescription medicines but also for personal growth for otherwise "healthy" people, and to also become a legally licensed psychedelic therapist. He resides in Boston with his wife and three children. --000e0cd20ff40353990478ab9dbf-- From sfraves-return-151618-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Nov 18 23:26:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48503 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Nov 2009 23:26:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48482 invoked from network); 18 Nov 2009 23:26:20 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com From: orotoro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:27:04 -0800 To: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Message-Id: <2AC23ED9-82D5-4A48-9781-43828CD40BB8@technoprisoners.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] MOTORCITYJAM.TK 8PM TONIGHT (WEDS) Hello friends, Motorcityjam SF Bay USA night is on again tonight with residents = oroToro and Oddnumber. You can video chat and listen in this broadcast. Beam on down = and get comfy. 8:00pm OroTorO and guests live from the Dutch Boy 6-C OAKLAND 10:00pm ODDNUMBER live from his SF UG Bunker. (HIDE YOUR = LAPTOPS!) 12:00am The search for a new resident continues!!!11 http://www.motorcityjam.tk starting 8pm (UTC-8 PST Tijuana) =95 =95 =95 NEXT WEEK =95 Weds night before Thanksgiving =95 =95 =95 =95 MCJ UG launch party in Oakland =95 =95 18+ NO COVER =95 =95 8pm til ??? =95 =95 Bay area techno DJ Battle Royale to be broadcast ALL OVER = THE WORLD =95 =95 DISC JOCKEYS CONTACT OROTORO@TECHNOPRISONERS.ORG TO = PARTICIPATE =95 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151619-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 01:33:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51683 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 01:33:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51667 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 01:33:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=nvhFSAp7eyBT8jgFLbqgz4Go97+LPJc1xuyQ4eCoWEI=; b=VCzUf79tbijIwjs61a9j2AnFX/LKc1+ZTBd7vOfQ15CCvWRjxHlToOb2sHe9BitCVc /OTeXVUVW1CD8KAwB+ewci5Lb1yg1VVCEs175cPNwf0SpYGM/CbwBbpa8ZOXpF6i0F5B LG2PtcI05Pu0naZzx+dLTz11K+PkojIuRaS0s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=vxZB678lBD+R4YqlPQz1PD/A3YTCJ+fSmrA+WKIbJuEvZRDgUU8SA9d4CHyaEDSxAk WjoyrTjldPGFI4ie/LsAxxVzKe/C9DITpn1IBbnB5U7YNoYYJb4XoFb5q+cadd36DXB5 jJYFNFqz27IefWec76o+hfqfrrXD1+AIxtt5E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:34:09 -0800 Message-ID: From: Tennyson Hull To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016367f933315619d0478af5b24 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Anything Going On December 12th? --0016367f933315619d0478af5b24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Guys, My girlfriend and I are planning on visiting San Francisco for our anniversary. Anyone know of anything good going on the weekend of the 12th? We'll be ariving on Friday and leaving on Sunday. I thought Trippendicular was going to happen that weekend but now they've gone and changed it... plus there isn't even a flyer out. Any fun activities besides normal San Francisco happenings? Thanks, Orion --0016367f933315619d0478af5b24-- From sfraves-return-151620-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 04:08:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94638 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 04:08:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94614 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 04:08:44 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:08:44 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko X-X-Sender: terry@taz3 To: Tennyson Hull cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091118200811.Q91713@taz3> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anything Going On December 12th? See my next post.... -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Tennyson Hull wrote: > Hey Guys, > > My girlfriend and I are planning on visiting San Francisco for our > anniversary. Anyone know of anything good going on the weekend of the > 12th? We'll be ariving on Friday and leaving on Sunday. I thought > Trippendicular was going to happen that weekend but now they've gone and > changed it... plus there isn't even a flyer out. Any fun activities besides > normal San Francisco happenings? > > Thanks, > > Orion > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151621-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 04:22:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6361 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 04:22:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6343 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 04:22:42 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:22:42 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko X-X-Sender: terry@taz3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20091118200853.L91713@taz3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] [BSP] A Sticky Christmas: Dec 12th 2009 STICKY WHITE ~ A Christmas Cocktail Get Down! It's time for a good old fashioned Family Christmas Party! On Saturday December 12th, 2009, the Sticky Family comes together once again to bring you another installment of great house music, good vibes, and the friendliest group of folks this side of the North Pole. * Main Room: Jingle Beats Andrew Phelan & George Cochrane Rick Preston Jeno Shubert Tenchi & Grat Justin Hale * Chill Room: Chillin' Under the Mistletoe Red Stickman mino Terry Jose Padilla Kulaid - New location 15 mins south of SF - Theme: White! Come in your favorite Xmas costume or dress all in white! - Premium Open Bar (Free!) The good shit, were not kidding. - Free Appetizers and Snacks - 9pm-4am - 21+ - Visuals by Viberation - Dancers: Digital Divaz Tiered ticket structure, $15 (about 10 left), then $20, then $25 (remember this includes free booze :-) 225 Tickets, presale ONLY! Available via hand-to-hand (I have tix) or via paypal through our website: http://www.stickyparties.com Hope to see you there!! -terry -- ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151622-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 06:25:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9122 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 06:25:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9098 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 06:25:17 -0000 Message-ID: <6305B5F5154043BCB87D29027B6917EC@nicholase320fdd28> From: "nico" To: "Terry Estioko" , References: <20091118200853.L91713@taz3> Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:26:07 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] [BSP] A Sticky Christmas: Dec 12th 2009 Lot of competition from several ends on that night. Birthday party for a close friend in Daly City. Jeff Mills will be in town. Can't we all just get together and do this on different nights? ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Estioko" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: [sfraves] [BSP] A Sticky Christmas: Dec 12th 2009 > STICKY WHITE ~ A Christmas Cocktail Get Down! > It's time for a good old fashioned Family Christmas Party! > > On Saturday December 12th, 2009, the Sticky Family comes together once > again to bring you another installment of great house music, good vibes, > and the friendliest group of folks this side of the North Pole. > > * Main Room: Jingle Beats > Andrew Phelan & George Cochrane > Rick Preston > Jeno > Shubert > Tenchi & Grat > Justin Hale > > * Chill Room: Chillin' Under the Mistletoe > Red Stickman > mino > Terry > Jose Padilla > Kulaid > > - New location 15 mins south of SF > - Theme: White! Come in your favorite Xmas costume or dress all in white! > - Premium Open Bar (Free!) The good shit, were not kidding. > - Free Appetizers and Snacks > - 9pm-4am > - 21+ > - Visuals by Viberation > - Dancers: Digital Divaz > > Tiered ticket structure, $15 (about 10 left), then $20, then $25 > (remember this includes free booze :-) > > 225 Tickets, presale ONLY! Available via hand-to-hand (I have tix) or via > paypal through our website: > > http://www.stickyparties.com > > Hope to see you there!! > > -terry > > -- > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151623-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 11:15:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1442 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 11:15:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1423 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 11:15:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=WW3KKeZNOcoiMZbj+j4z2VPMF4yWqsV24n9P12Aycg0=; b=wn6noMtLPIxvrVSO21I89aZx009qaifB4JnmUEdCJc1q6D2IO6FaSrzi5X7sM8HFiC 1/6pgopnyeqYBoaHk6SzcMhOEV6Z8Vmgn/03JkCJfrwu5hZlOtreRaMU8UjJH191BEez Q64RbEEXeU1LlBgkAfTwVXDJCwVR4BQpqYmKE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=uYUkxkIJoR5ked50tvpzBwf8A/c1NXPIY98g5dgapHsfqt+0QOrTNeOouxkS5sHZOz JbckKU15HMI9qhwf2MVZndHGhwV0lN2/2ypirKvV7KKk7QpbRZuU6F+k7Bdgi0m5X8NH KY/nXU+3QOLek8rz1Yu4o4Huj0gtf/8/jMvXc= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:16:20 -0800 Message-ID: <6ed22ae30911190316l6db18940pff8ab96e6b7fdf07@mail.gmail.com> From: Dance Democracy To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517741146276d7f0478b77d2f X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Free tiesto afterparty --001517741146276d7f0478b77d2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 in san francisco 2am-??? invitation only --001517741146276d7f0478b77d2f-- From sfraves-return-151624-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 17:39:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51169 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 17:39:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51153 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 17:39:42 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:40:12 -0800 (PST) From: "J.C." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20091119093941.F79340@kzsu.stanford.edu> X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 171.66.118.47 X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (kzsu.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]); Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:40:24 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Mix from dis=c0! (as well as your truly) on An Epiphany Of Sound right now Today on An Epiphany Of Sound I'll be broadcasting a very recent mix from dis=c0! called Tiger in Tighty Whities (available on SoundCloud) as well as jumping in the mix later in the show. Be sure to tune in at 90.1 FM in the bay area, or listen online at http://kzsulive.stanford.edu if you can't get the radio signal. Thanks! -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151625-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 17:59:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69017 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 17:59:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69000 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 17:59:27 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 09:59:27 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko X-X-Sender: terry@taz3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20091119095614.U59997@taz3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. Since our calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone care to share what they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? thanks! -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151626-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 18:15:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83644 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 18:15:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83624 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 18:15:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258654584; bh=Ozs937rrJ+EZUPTGqLGSW9tVm2y03Rf3ZLAKaf84t6k=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N921NdNhYN036tSM19bFj0uUTKt7a5ZiXRlAU6+ll2ghL/UUqBFRpNMRjmansjusEg+iidz6hK9h/+OLl3w+USKvg/mCzisrou2tht52ylHTXV/EYztAFh/lkqh8lD80BRXstG60mD+FpSnUrsngGEENPkI8XDC4TVDRQCl5XFw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cvd4dNfThAmkxoIFPl5cIWHWGRJug1wY1sOubThKrU54Pv0a2dW1tKW3Zv20ejXtVvaQe0z3iKw1MaVA/KhkdUN0al1mxLGWvoie1sb/4pjrsSA/YWiEbaI4Gc9Zke8CxKgcrQMuMsqZxouGE3zcqGJmJNB8le0nDgIGUEvM3C8=; Message-ID: <298060.92853.qm@web113209.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EaC.JiIVM1mxlrf6DIA8zUog7CeYL1SsWNAcMnXa21cUcEZr2O8hFQxfaiHOIG14JBoJJeidQSY75aNCXXUwj2yzKP0M0XHtCt5o6jWK9HB83X3rzSIbuY8iJcmj5olrh8Fss3bzqVzb3yye3WRdpIw8S_tRrr32PGuHAGXLroEjGgh2Dp2ksHs8LWEF8e.Ylof2S7fN8KzncaQ9tdYXhLnOH6U_BqIbfKjqqoJh9SfNwoFJErLfIY6ZzlhO1XB9iiFlE4QU4GWQc9E7Y_mEJwWhnogojk7tek6dkKe9lStO_PqZ83SVR1qkVmZ8vFgMI7bB1yFPnCqGDdNcE5B3y_Jj71KB3j2LGSJ7XPDBLwDHoA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/8.1.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:16:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Terry Estioko In-Reply-To: <20091119095614.U59997@taz3> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1165864410-1258654584=:92853" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions --0-1165864410-1258654584=:92853 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i use groundscore and facebook.... =A0 i really wish we could get our calendar back and running, need help, i'm mo= re than happy to help bring this back up :) =A0 lemmme know =A0 -adriana "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of yo= ur life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, sadne= ss and envy."=20 "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The da= nce floor's my place.." --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Terry Estioko wrote: From: Terry Estioko Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:59 AM I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. Since our c= alendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone care to share what th= ey use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? thanks! -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko=A0 =A0=A0=A0| terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A --0-1165864410-1258654584=:92853-- From sfraves-return-151627-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 18:29:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95896 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 18:29:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95865 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 18:29:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=kx4VmZMxKEWgU7SH/fQ050xUUPgZU6n/v1sSRN5LNE3Wbd0KvZrIVf56uvX+yBiA; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <14990129.1258655429333.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Christina Ackerman Reply-To: Christina Ackerman To: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat , sfraves@hyperreal.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 9a5e0c339850984681b09582c12b02407e972de0d01da9402a7f8c6d2971a084d5ce1f8439d81f60350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.25 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions Anywhere specific on Facebook or just through your network of friends? I am most interested in what is happening either Fri., Dec. 4th or Sat., 5t= h for my birthday weekend.=20 I actually live in Mammoth but make it over to SF about 4x a year (grew up = there). Not much music to dance to here in the mountains (besides the sho= rt trek to BRC once a year)!!! =20 Thanks! Christina -----Original Message----- >From: Terry Estioko >Sent: Nov 19, 2009 12:59 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions=20 > >I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar.=20 >Since our calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone=20 >care to share what they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? > >thanks! > >-terry > >------------------------------------------ >terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org >SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org -----Original Message----- >From: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat >Sent: Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Terry Estioko >Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > >i use groundscore and facebook.... >=C2=A0 >i really wish we could get our calendar back and running, need help, i'm m= ore than happy to help bring this back up :) >=C2=A0 >lemmme know >=C2=A0 >-adriana > > > > > >"Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of y= our life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, sadn= ess and envy."=20 > >"Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > >"I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The d= ance floor's my place.." > > > > > > > >--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Terry Estioko wrote: > > >From: Terry Estioko >Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:59 AM > > >I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. Since our = calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone care to share what t= hey use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? > >thanks! > >-terry > >------------------------------------------ >terry estioko=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0| terry@hyperreal.org >SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151628-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 18:31:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98113 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 18:31:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98091 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 18:31:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=tOHbICZB6pWx6gr4lZFkvgdfit/zjDH0yCvcJuc+unI=; b=vBwrCQUtzMvgt0aMn1w5ENi7CwP7O4+YAB44r4fU7unWMWNt60nLlvqTKmJQMakelo s8rNMY4HWaI4kKzMcML+lF1Zxsez+JX+xE7Snczijaromd3XB/3PHq5yYHu6xLefKNSg 5yQpjINuOot4NwXu/+tYqVWgUN+0UC/Qi6Ia4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=x3YxVZt1iCFdxZ2RDli25b6uYvghAKvHkbvYxf5ljh7LgG6ixa5JrZC4TVZH2ODgiu BVAUpWlRRKVnKDfEB40TMM6i0xm87iZTpPqRnrodQLM9cZYni4uLrLBDgI8BCoLm8JD7 oZw3nI/5wRfxn32YuZrazpMCplaijVc4MSauY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14990129.1258655429333.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14990129.1258655429333.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:32:23 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Christina Ackerman Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1537c973c750478bd9436 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions --000e0cd1537c973c750478bd9436 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why don't we use a Google calendar that has write-access for a few people we trust, and embed it read-only in a webpage somewhere for people to view? On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Christina Ackerman < ackermanc@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Anywhere specific on Facebook or just through your network of friends? > > I am most interested in what is happening either Fri., Dec. 4th or Sat., > 5th for my birthday weekend. > > I actually live in Mammoth but make it over to SF about 4x a year (grew up > there). Not much music to dance to here in the mountains (besides the > short trek to BRC once a year)!!! > > Thanks! Christina > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Terry Estioko > >Sent: Nov 19, 2009 12:59 PM > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > > > >I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. > >Since our calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone > >care to share what they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? > > > >thanks! > > > >-terry > > > >------------------------------------------ > >terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > >SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat > >Sent: Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Terry Estioko > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > > > >i use groundscore and facebook.... > > > >i really wish we could get our calendar back and running, need help, i'm > more than happy to help bring this back up :) > > > >lemmme know > > > >-adriana > > > > > > > > > > > >"Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of > your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, > sadness and envy." > > > >"Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > > > >"I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The > dance floor's my place.." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Terry Estioko wrote: > > > > > >From: Terry Estioko > >Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:59 AM > > > > > >I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. Since our > calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone care to share what > they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? > > > >thanks! > > > >-terry > > > >------------------------------------------ > >terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > >SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd1537c973c750478bd9436-- From sfraves-return-151629-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 18:49:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14801 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 18:49:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14782 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 18:49:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <14990129.1258655429333.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <14990129.1258655429333.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:50:14 -0800 Message-ID: <42a0b30f0911191050u3c1521fbjec5afc89357319f6@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: Christina Ackerman Cc: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd119246d16780478bdd49a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions --000e0cd119246d16780478bdd49a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I often cruise the pages of my favorite local DJs and just see what's on their gig calendars. If someone I really like lists an opening/supporting gig, it's likely a headliner that's worth checking out. I noticed Jerome Hill and LuSINda had been brought in from London because Forest was spinning with them, awesome freaking party on a Thursday night. For first saturday gigs, there's always kontrol, which generally means there won't be any other club techno parties to speak of, though there's often a decent underground in oakland. and there's other genres of course. DnB seems kind of random, dubstep parties (usually they're actually glitch hop) even more so. Honestly, for Friday nights I tend to just head over to killswitch for happy hour and ask everyone there what's going on. :) -R. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Christina Ackerman < ackermanc@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Anywhere specific on Facebook or just through your network of friends? > > I am most interested in what is happening either Fri., Dec. 4th or Sat., > 5th for my birthday weekend. > > I actually live in Mammoth but make it over to SF about 4x a year (grew up > there). Not much music to dance to here in the mountains (besides the > short trek to BRC once a year)!!! > > Thanks! Christina > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Terry Estioko > >Sent: Nov 19, 2009 12:59 PM > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > > > >I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. > >Since our calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone > >care to share what they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? > > > >thanks! > > > >-terry > > > >------------------------------------------ > >terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > >SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat > >Sent: Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Terry Estioko > >Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > > > >i use groundscore and facebook.... > > > >i really wish we could get our calendar back and running, need help, i'm > more than happy to help bring this back up :) > > > >lemmme know > > > >-adriana > > > > > > > > > > > >"Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of > your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, > sadness and envy." > > > >"Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" > > > >"I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The > dance floor's my place.." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- On Thu, 11/19/09, Terry Estioko wrote: > > > > > >From: Terry Estioko > >Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions > >To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:59 AM > > > > > >I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. Since our > calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone care to share what > they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? > > > >thanks! > > > >-terry > > > >------------------------------------------ > >terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > >SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd119246d16780478bdd49a-- From sfraves-return-151630-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Nov 19 22:05:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80877 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Nov 2009 22:05:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80854 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2009 22:05:36 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:05:36 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko X-X-Sender: terry@taz3 To: Matt Stone cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20091119140043.S59997@taz3> References: <14990129.1258655429333.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions I also largely just use facebook, since everything just gets pushed to me, but that doesn't help people that don't already have a network established. It would also be pretty fast to put up a joomla-based calendar, and give multiple people admin access. Cool thing about this is anyone can submit events, admins just have to approve for display. I just might make this a holiday project. -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Matt Stone wrote: > Why don't we use a Google calendar that has write-access for a few people we > trust, and embed it read-only in a webpage somewhere for people to view? > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Christina Ackerman < > ackermanc@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> >> Anywhere specific on Facebook or just through your network of friends? >> >> I am most interested in what is happening either Fri., Dec. 4th or Sat., >> 5th for my birthday weekend. >> >> I actually live in Mammoth but make it over to SF about 4x a year (grew up >> there). Not much music to dance to here in the mountains (besides the >> short trek to BRC once a year)!!! >> >> Thanks! Christina >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Terry Estioko >>> Sent: Nov 19, 2009 12:59 PM >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>> Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions >>> >>> I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. >>> Since our calendar's been inactive for several years now, anyone >>> care to share what they use to find upcoming events in the Bay Area?? >>> >>> thanks! >>> >>> -terry >>> >>> ------------------------------------------ >>> terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org >>> SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ahhdreeahhnahh Kitteekat >>> Sent: Nov 19, 2009 1:16 PM >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Terry Estioko >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions >>> >>> i use groundscore and facebook.... >>> >>> i really wish we could get our calendar back and running, need help, i'm >> more than happy to help bring this back up :) >>> >>> lemmme know >>> >>> -adriana >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "Dance is your pulse, your heartbeat, your breathing. It's the rhythm of >> your life. It's the expression in time and movement, in happiness, joy, >> sadness and envy." >>> >>> "Love like you've never been hurt. Dance like no one's watching" >>> >>> "I am married to music ~ Addicted to bass ~ I belong to the rhythm ~ The >> dance floor's my place.." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Thu, 11/19/09, Terry Estioko wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Terry Estioko >>> Subject: [sfraves] SF Event Calendar Suggestions >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>> Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 9:59 AM >>> >>> >>> I got an inquiry from an SFR subscriber for our event calendar. 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Thought I'd let everybody know about it in since it's free for today. -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com - http://hsomusic.com facebook.com/hsomusic - myspace.com/hsomusic - twitter.com/hsomusic KZSU (http://kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151632-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 00:12:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72136 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 00:12:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72112 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 00:12:19 -0000 Message-ID: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> From: "nico" To: Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:13:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA6933.2F581230" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA6933.2F581230 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do = that sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able = and willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. =20 Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. love always n i c o ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01CA6933.2F581230-- From sfraves-return-151633-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 00:35:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90817 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 00:34:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90780 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 00:34:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258677346; bh=bGYEQlwUvUeQ06SOMZG01dMDdx6QlHgWoatDV7jcF08=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fOHyQYbQoEjb1uvf0/+KLAGSJu7SqlJkxnNrHtLcRFbyTR+95wi/8f0tcIpdJSYWi/Mm5vB8P+5TnxVKsphf0Q8bhrRzlfFTtUZK8T3dwz2OoAmNmLYSN/A2G9yIwEXptlOVLoZYtS4+L96a69DKBd2RNxK29j/lLjv0YtlZ0Y8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PVnP+tsqyG+ri7+R6KS4X1LZkWcCD/YKgC6ayitrb62YAlmGdm+prrrfwnAvo/ZvCJCLezcDiCgVdX4lSqxn0pr128XyW+seKvTfga/0vBfKjuXVhIqToZTW7OXJPh3/dW/LdCfBysIwBcaxgpGRnrgIEmFJ5JVBDkQeb+G8U78=; Message-ID: <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M8gbAmsVM1n_EIylVdLHtCqn0HKIl2iqy66yNOMG8fF0_kYPM8sy1SBjF_umTTD0pOVS1EpyGcT2UvooTJqfrK2SpjPpC5AyDTtM2WgBiZsLh3um6.mIXZ2bd4TZXrpx0hb7viT0QZKjptEIzbV9tVzt180h5DVyVPhRSjG9MWr_y3gH0nIeDwJEtUcUvyI0mx1GlkVdoMFMlkdP5I25ZOhnpzZuShKxDnffjeY7uWiDlERgtr0E4VUVoDUu_mkD0VML2HPUJ1IvGowjpNuTaP8fpAWVIg7Q22xpqIVtHH_wsmg_85o4b5MikxQcf.JOW2DhrMDKKq7VyZ82m975I1LH_Asnih6SP91Zk0RXU69wLQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/240.2 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:35:46 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet I'd hit up BayRaves. ----- Original Message ---- From: nico To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do that sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. love always n i c o --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151634-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 01:48:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54116 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 01:48:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54089 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 01:48:26 -0000 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:48:26 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko X-X-Sender: terry@taz3 To: michael the redstickman cc: nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet better yet ravelinks.com -terry On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: > I'd hit up BayRaves. > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: nico > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM > Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet > > Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do that sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. > > Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. > > love always > > n i c o > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151635-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 02:24:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84727 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 02:24:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84700 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 02:24:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=X2zToa7GQtrlE3ilNW3Y9+kWc8ipj1I8Qz9qFC6i5ng=; b=qsTrkL40RtcPbdlPnUJ6ZvZSKp3zok2NfqHEfiNh60o90IYsRI9A7FVBNaJdjAlp2I gsWW73FXi6ywNSRJG3tz8ViDlJWLgd78jKzdzSaIRTpOLbl8Hd+xHg6c9bUloNqD4xaF pPb73qoTtfzHgb013J/+Mk41ZW1JwdzvNr0Mw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=U/s7sB+0ujdimcmUhoIwn+5It/Agzt9F5i529nG/ax3ZfHPCGwn306e6Gf0Z3wY4pe VGdalKZJe/L0/Uo7r6Inevr+H0fQivrHKbGGfhafea297ym24CguzPuLQNrClZC+x/Cl F3ron75r+t9NZkqOXjKCc4aIqqmlXkOjKSf30= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:24:58 -0800 Message-ID: From: Sean G To: Terry Estioko Cc: michael the redstickman , nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its like riding a bike. Without the pedals. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko wrote: > better yet ravelinks.com > > -terry > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: > >> I'd hit up BayRaves. >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: nico >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >> >> Need one customized with letters and stuff. =A0I have no idea how to do = that >> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and >> willing. =A0Need to have it done by Sunday. >> >> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. =A0Contact me if you can. >> >> love always >> >> n i c o >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --=20 kekekekeke =3D[^.^]=3D zomg!!111 kekekekeke This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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Thank you for your cooperation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151636-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 04:52:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96757 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 04:52:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96728 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 04:52:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=IjEbAIkGeqFE/+J82xe412V0PIAFumyhNByq/yyx89M=; b=PPQiDrHakG02mLvkq6UfsDoqMzoSK+fAwyT7C/nIE8klRRxHiBBe3Vmi9YKatA6J9r uzek+oydTcmq6ZVrk6QGgG4oV+fCXevhxYMf/MjgJUylxsY+lwcitT1QktEyXwTfGN2K PIfDxu38t5JAxzIIAVtxYbqspJ72Tslmtmd4I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=fL7gVSn9EDw7nU+nNB0yt63Hlo4Rg+Cs7+3xcIfIQ8ZraTNznDabpN/NKaxjrd6I8Z g8Uk/ydjbL/vtnTZfRO1v0I7T69p0mk4Vpscxr3PvqjrTa4Bkiov1r1tReNB+dVIJrSK v1aMbbAwdnP939/Zm2OROiHupp5/lWRP10jG8= Message-ID: <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:53:12 -0800 From: Sean Ocean User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean G CC: Terry Estioko , michael the redstickman , nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing sound for. it's a hard project especially especially if you have big hands. 15-18 year old girls seem to have a special knack for it. those girls seem to practice making excellent symmetry under extremely intoxicated conditions and construct latticed versions that confound my oldschool mindset. 'more than 2 strings for one bracelet? what's that?' my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by varying shades of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all going so well until i tried to tie it, then whoosh! all on the floor. a girl came up to me and hugged me for my valiant effort, as she had been looking on the whole time. i was like, "damn, someone woulda liked that." i looked on as the other girls at the table gave my feeble attempt a significant pwnage. so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. lolz. sean. Sean G wrote: > Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its > like riding a bike. Without the pedals. > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko wrote: > >> better yet ravelinks.com >> >> -terry >> >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >> >> >>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ---- >>> From: nico >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>> >>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do that >>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and >>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>> >>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>> >>> love always >>> >>> n i c o >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151637-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 05:21:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17904 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 05:21:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17876 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 05:21:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:subject:mime-version :content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding :message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=+phQfAY7PboDYpm8G9+1rxdU753RFIKTFeTGSeEsN7E=; b=GQFEn1GMHFh8kKHS5kFWjnTQKBiVWn1gcRUHhw4wM6We88pQh0DZV/jb/Rf5FWHbSG slEQpe/OA5OXY3aumrVeA2oOvjU3vWUrgA9NwRkHMB6I4lcVGhWcDZXsVjt/Uq7MqCLb H2E7UUWAEnelcD6jKmcPpWD/r5JCI8ITtI3Kw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=RumhmIYyUde1uhpBjSsMlkBWSkvL7gUJtHbA9P8nEwipMXua1i3lmdw7T37mH0Lp+T fhG5DVJh7hGHqBTe/BxZPUMXAQqdMNwPs4cg0nTO9DuGobncOAg/T1o5c+JwkIyvr2AP JumGUtigtfNx9TTusHDl8i1guW7oQRsBup2jw= Sender: Scott Solmonson Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Scott Solmonson In-Reply-To: <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:21:45 -0800 Cc: Sean G , Terry Estioko , michael the redstickman , nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6A75E578-500F-4B54-ABD2-57214DADC120@scosol.org> References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> To: Sean Ocean X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet I agree- I have to pause and contemplate every time a 15-18yo girl shows = me just what her hands can do- and the amazement keeps building and = building until she finishes. -- NUNQUAM NON PARATUS V: 408.718.6290 On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Sean Ocean wrote: > i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing sound = for. it's a hard project especially especially if you have big hands. = 15-18 year old girls seem to have a special knack for it. those girls = seem to practice making excellent symmetry under extremely intoxicated = conditions and construct latticed versions that confound my oldschool = mindset. 'more than 2 strings for one bracelet? what's that?' >=20 > my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by varying = shades of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all going so well = until i tried to tie it, then whoosh! all on the floor. a girl came up = to me and hugged me for my valiant effort, as she had been looking on = the whole time. i was like, "damn, someone woulda liked that." i looked = on as the other girls at the table gave my feeble attempt a significant = pwnage. >=20 > so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. = lolz. > sean. > Sean G wrote: >> Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its >> like riding a bike. Without the pedals. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko = wrote: >> =20 >>> better yet ravelinks.com >>>=20 >>> -terry >>>=20 >>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: nico >>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>>>=20 >>>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to = do that >>>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able = and >>>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>>>=20 >>>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>>>=20 >>>> love always >>>>=20 >>>> n i c o >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151638-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 17:55:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52814 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 17:55:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52788 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 17:55:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=HPSuCh/9A5u6q2RlkpIZ/3Rex6etOPbUihKg75hd/Ok=; b=WZqWW/2XkVEAw63xuF2CANKqDYWHmO0kkOVSB+grDyjCZUB19OXql4h3eLuP18bciP N6mQWR87/5veLdcnFx9Wz4yVIzYOj0USihfGRaRczxS9NnXXHfI6ASF+r/eZS5IvgwoY lsqEkcAljU1TQGBe7jE3QM/GUm2IPAPLmcdec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=xJBILFJFbN6Xsy2VTbLQ77h4x4bEU1Gh/L3T5fZdRT3GrwflabgH7Wz7iMYngeNnFi RaXQMaOaAROsA1Ahf7FyOuzYY0i1rKwvqaSDNbt9fV0yiUuA7NXQAv8f3IOLwiU1oS4s BVj4jUmOq2klrbvoNJdjxRVAHLJmLZgn/8Fi0= Message-ID: <4B06D819.7060705@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 09:55:37 -0800 From: STML User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.18 (Windows/20081105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sean Ocean CC: Sean G , Terry Estioko , michael the redstickman , nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet Am I going to have to bust out the tarnce next time I come visit? Sean Ocean wrote: > i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing sound > for. it's a hard project especially especially if you have big hands. > 15-18 year old girls seem to have a special knack for it. those girls > seem to practice making excellent symmetry under extremely intoxicated > conditions and construct latticed versions that confound my oldschool > mindset. 'more than 2 strings for one bracelet? what's that?' > > my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by varying > shades of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all going so well > until i tried to tie it, then whoosh! all on the floor. a girl came up > to me and hugged me for my valiant effort, as she had been looking on > the whole time. i was like, "damn, someone woulda liked that." i > looked on as the other girls at the table gave my feeble attempt a > significant pwnage. > > so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. lolz. > sean. > Sean G wrote: >> Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its >> like riding a bike. Without the pedals. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko >> wrote: >> >>> better yet ravelinks.com >>> >>> -terry >>> >>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: nico >>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>>> >>>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to >>>> do that >>>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and >>>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>>> >>>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>>> >>>> love always >>>> >>>> n i c o >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151639-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 20:55:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37273 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 20:55:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37245 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 20:55:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1258750570; bh=grio290ocZeIFfYIKKDFXc+qq5cftbfPxjLCHCm/eGA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aJGSw3XpEpDOYg0Hqte+b8CGv4fYTJqeR7Qj7lvBak+4DvHcIrgMBwoiGtd/cSYGsf7Peu9clExkMHvz1fPdnYoqf7mr0CYN9m9vype4mVuhzUHkiq5NbFWcPwlI8pnv4p5OqlJSdJ1kGce9IA+KRz4j0dQ9zlAHFcvkR3HCYIs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TZk7tlf27CprPcA3OynUTthxx1+/X2bVerGwbiTxJvWRftWGQxBSefuzErxqXj7x/FWccYLs0ROodsz8kR3kSEluI/nnfmVT0IJwrRDPDpzB3p1CQPDiOAoeybjDx2danKadYil65oCg5foEINlOJNdrpBf1EzlzmPny2oq741I=; Message-ID: <233860.58701.qm@web50007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kBSYnMoVM1l21BnEWs8c1iudIwgwdPQYjQZuifs1KXigY958UKZVYggH2W1B014mfKVYx7j8UaxAF7EFe8vysH_4X0o5UoEmqqtZH.FHBvfYqOA6_FzY_f0f79.6E0fKI7IqwFSmGWZjI_zVc86rGL.V9aCnygPbNfScDuWcOmr4OptXeU4MCKm_VbDhzWDluL67j9AUJdQhI8OnwAezrDBrfGDs7Pn9V5EKPhahl_Ma4rEc0J7EPjLaHXR5IbjJ7IXcqGbRpCYTKDNNdA8D7IksYxHxt_CdbEzEmDB1bnM8n.eAt65CI8gz14sDHVF4tvDaspyjoG4zeevWax1PdrfvW862TaTTsFHZhAp4jIfyIKCt0cfh8FhKlmXFU04VZ27XLpeLWIhnhMPlMiHUci4x3gCZxdTLrdJQhfB2IJeXuDvxzPgtJFxKA8_olw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: Red Stickman To: Sean G Cc: Terry Estioko , nico , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet And without the seat. Sent from my stupid phone On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Sean G wrote: Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its like riding a bike. Without the pedals. On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko wrote: better yet ravelinks.com -terry On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: I'd hit up BayRaves. ----- Original Message ---- From: nico To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do that sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. love always n i c o --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org -- kekekekeke =[^.^]= zomg!!111 kekekekeke This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-email and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151640-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 21:01:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42596 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 21:01:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42571 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 21:01:28 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <233860.58701.qm@web50007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <233860.58701.qm@web50007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:02:16 -0800 Message-ID: <42a0b30f0911201302n230b8d8alf60480ef616dc7bc@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: Red Stickman Cc: Sean G , Terry Estioko , nico , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e046686e030478d3cadc X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet --000e0cd2e046686e030478d3cadc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've actually never made candy. does that mean I'm still a candy virgin? On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Red Stickman wrote: > And without the seat. > > > Sent from my stupid phone > > On Nov 19, 2009, at 6:24 PM, Sean G wrote: > > Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its > like riding a bike. Without the pedals. > > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko > wrote: > better yet ravelinks.com > > -terry > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: > > I'd hit up BayRaves. > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: nico > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM > Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet > > Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do that > sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and > willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. > > Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. > > love always > > n i c o > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > -- > kekekekeke > =[^.^]= zomg!!111 > kekekekeke > > This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. > If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the > addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based > on this message or any information herein. If you have received this > message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply > e-email and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd2e046686e030478d3cadc-- From sfraves-return-151641-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 21:38:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68469 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 21:38:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68445 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 21:38:03 -0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at unwiredltd.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1077) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: orotoro In-Reply-To: <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:38:46 -0800 Cc: Sean G , Terry Estioko , michael the redstickman , nico , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> To: Sean Ocean X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1077) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet We need to make MINIMAL bracelets like the ones the cool people in = Berlin have. On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Sean Ocean wrote: > i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing sound = for. it's a hard project especially especially if you have big hands. = 15-18 year old girls seem to have a special knack for it. those girls = seem to practice making excellent symmetry under extremely intoxicated = conditions and construct latticed versions that confound my oldschool = mindset. 'more than 2 strings for one bracelet? what's that?' >=20 > my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by varying = shades of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all going so well = until i tried to tie it, then whoosh! all on the floor. a girl came up = to me and hugged me for my valiant effort, as she had been looking on = the whole time. i was like, "damn, someone woulda liked that." i looked = on as the other girls at the table gave my feeble attempt a significant = pwnage. >=20 > so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. = lolz. > sean. > Sean G wrote: >> Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its >> like riding a bike. Without the pedals. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko = wrote: >> =20 >>> better yet ravelinks.com >>>=20 >>> -terry >>>=20 >>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >>>=20 >>> =20 >>>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: nico >>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>>>=20 >>>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to = do that >>>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able = and >>>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>>>=20 >>>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>>>=20 >>>> love always >>>>=20 >>>> n i c o >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>> = --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> =20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151642-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 22:36:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 9013 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 22:36:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8992 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 22:36:16 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:36:16 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Estioko X-X-Sender: terry@taz3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org cc: nico In-Reply-To: <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091120143252.B65142@taz3> References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Spam-Rating: localhost.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet Okay Nico here you go: Handmade custom candy rave bracelets http://www.candyraveaccessories.com -terry ------------------------------------------ terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Sean Ocean wrote: > i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing sound for. > it's a hard project especially especially if you have big hands. 15-18 year > old girls seem to have a special knack for it. those girls seem to practice > making excellent symmetry under extremely intoxicated conditions and > construct latticed versions that confound my oldschool mindset. 'more than 2 > strings for one bracelet? what's that?' > > my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by varying shades > of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all going so well until i tried > to tie it, then whoosh! all on the floor. a girl came up to me and hugged me > for my valiant effort, as she had been looking on the whole time. i was like, > "damn, someone woulda liked that." i looked on as the other girls at the > table gave my feeble attempt a significant pwnage. > > so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. lolz. > sean. > Sean G wrote: >> Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its >> like riding a bike. Without the pedals. >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko wrote: >> >>> better yet ravelinks.com >>> >>> -terry >>> >>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >>> >>> >>>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>> From: nico >>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>>> >>>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do >>>> that >>>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and >>>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>>> >>>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>>> >>>> love always >>>> >>>> n i c o >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-151643-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 22:39:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11712 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 22:39:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11678 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 22:39:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7/kWAsHRDWmXK7tWI9P4G22dCAuMpPfRBDhdTa+BY0s=; b=Z4g6E0Y/eGTZ1jJdHtJZbvBS97nxk6OanBWspfBc4VLNQ5LoO8gpiT5262in2FzE0o 8zHtyEFDqVsrZsmtXjROUzuvzBlg/3QQucrvXuwRz3mB3l+z81bvpKAikrdKmAazr8by oX975dJfAjnDuYsR0qQLaDZYcm93IugqeGe58= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aVhMhI2ZmG3dHqa/kHYrjhXFrMoTR6JUrmBiJiELEtXTPAU1P96tkH4iYFXDKyam54 CFWepnFWKG/cJ0SThTw7NBsjGVl3UYpx+yvmCNaKkl/JJ0CIcy5Apt97Gyo/DzbN10Z+ NmKkSDlVnML0QckD0gByaCzbOJyyfzQ72WTxc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20091120143252.B65142@taz3> References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> <20091120143252.B65142@taz3> Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:40:40 -0800 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Terry Estioko Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, nico Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd605125844db0478d52ad3 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet --000e0cd605125844db0478d52ad3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Omg is it 1990 in here or is it just that link On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 2:36 PM, Terry Estioko wrote: > Okay Nico here you go: > > Handmade custom candy rave bracelets > http://www.candyraveaccessories.com > > -terry > > ------------------------------------------ > terry estioko | terry@hyperreal.org > SFRaves moderator | http://www.sfraves.org > > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, Sean Ocean wrote: > > i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing sound for. >> it's a hard project especially especially if you have big hands. 15-18 year >> old girls seem to have a special knack for it. those girls seem to practice >> making excellent symmetry under extremely intoxicated conditions and >> construct latticed versions that confound my oldschool mindset. 'more than 2 >> strings for one bracelet? what's that?' >> >> my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by varying >> shades of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all going so well until i >> tried to tie it, then whoosh! all on the floor. a girl came up to me and >> hugged me for my valiant effort, as she had been looking on the whole time. >> i was like, "damn, someone woulda liked that." i looked on as the other >> girls at the table gave my feeble attempt a significant pwnage. >> >> so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. lolz. >> sean. >> Sean G wrote: >> >>> Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its >>> like riding a bike. Without the pedals. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko >>> wrote: >>> >>> better yet ravelinks.com >>>> >>>> -terry >>>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: nico >>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>>>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>>>> >>>>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how to do >>>>> that >>>>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be able and >>>>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>>>> >>>>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>>>> >>>>> love always >>>>> >>>>> n i c o >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd605125844db0478d52ad3-- From sfraves-return-151644-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Nov 20 22:58:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26502 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Nov 2009 22:58:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26477 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2009 22:58:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=fapJkVddX6B+hbuVRMO8xdFiPWqKwnLFMpdXrFTAHVY=; b=guNk0kk5MuscVdD4ux1wwW5Y44K0XsZ8HgTQex4NVnd7eWQfMcdtFFUry9bBX6dZhd ZLoqiw7omKCUFBhuPNmw64/DV3RPP9HKRXFXGJWgyLCbEOfbK5wD9efR284HubRC+pZh +qyNdGVQPiVtHxhihiFPWDw3K+sue5PXFzbkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=bq+Y7UDQCZnAx3UQjxulbuZHisqYhFNBwM6Z4iX2jWA9YKle01QNJpsDs2AAHD0zC5 YSfP3WJuWpqA8CV4OCQTkQQ/jNXiL1j+/H3ta84cKjMcUPetAkHbEEqLSYg9kU9KJcv3 GU0KZgL5mNdL2f9sRzdgSouU5zS8PjYNNdlSE= References: <14B58486CE8543FA92B25F05D8E80E4F@nicholase320fdd28> <165715.88686.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <20091119174753.E59997@taz3> <4B0620B8.9010100@gmail.com> Message-Id: <5C37A4F6-0E3F-4459-888C-4934CC3C4EAC@gmail.com> From: STML To: orotoro In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A400) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A400) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:10 -0800 Cc: Sean Ocean , Sean G , Terry Estioko , michael the redstickman , nico , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet I have a black shoelace... Fat fingered from my iPhone On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:38 PM, orotoro wrote: > We need to make MINIMAL bracelets like the ones the cool people in > Berlin have. > > On Nov 19, 2009, at 8:53 PM, Sean Ocean wrote: > >> i attempted to make a bracelet recently at a party i was doing >> sound for. it's a hard project especially especially if you have >> big hands. 15-18 year old girls seem to have a special knack for >> it. those girls seem to practice making excellent symmetry under >> extremely intoxicated conditions and construct latticed versions >> that confound my oldschool mindset. 'more than 2 strings for one >> bracelet? what's that?' >> >> my timid attempt had varying shades of fluoro orange offset by >> varying shades of phosphorescent green star beads.. it was all >> going so well until i tried to tie it, then whoosh! all on the >> floor. a girl came up to me and hugged me for my valiant effort, as >> she had been looking on the whole time. i was like, "damn, someone >> woulda liked that." i looked on as the other girls at the table >> gave my feeble attempt a significant pwnage. >> >> so just to rush to the defense of dear nico. that shit ain't easy. >> lolz. >> sean. >> Sean G wrote: >>> Lol. Don't tell me you guys forgot how to make candy... trust me its >>> like riding a bike. Without the pedals. >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Terry Estioko >>> wrote: >>> >>>> better yet ravelinks.com >>>> >>>> -terry >>>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009, michael the redstickman wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I'd hit up BayRaves. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ---- >>>>> From: nico >>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >>>>> Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 4:13:09 PM >>>>> Subject: [sfraves] Looking for someone to make a candy bracelet >>>>> >>>>> Need one customized with letters and stuff. I have no idea how >>>>> to do that >>>>> sorta thing so i'm wondering if anyone on this list would be >>>>> able and >>>>> willing. Need to have it done by Sunday. >>>>> >>>>> Paying like ... $10 - 15 I guess. Contact me if you can. >>>>> >>>>> love always >>>>> >>>>> n i c o >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>> --- >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org