From sfraves-return-150307-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 01 12:03:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53822 invoked by uid 1103); 1 Mar 2009 12:03:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53798 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2009 12:03:03 -0000 Message-ID: <2371.24.7.104.213.1235909002.squirrel@secure.saturn5.com> Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 04:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: "Osby Oi Oi Jamz" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Cc: mr.millstein@gmail.com Reply-To: osby@viberation.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] WR: My Yummy Friday Night Adventure Part 1 So like ok.. i don't like totally wanna get all emo & shit, but I think I need to like back story to explain a few things before I give a proper WR... ooh yeah... to the newbs & resubs to SFRaves, (WR = Weekend Review) 'cause like well.. things got kinda on the accronym tip a while back & I just thought I'd add to it & it like kinda stuck.. Anywaze, so like yeah, Thursday was the funeral for my Uncle Bobbing who passed away exactly a week before, the same day another Uncle passed away in the Phillipines. A week and a 1/2 before that, my other Uncle in the hospital passed from ummm... dialisys (sp) complucations... then a week before that, my Auntie who used to baby sit me after my car accident when I was 4, died on a plane trip coming back from the Phillipines... I mean.. this whole time like I've been just hardcore mourning Dave, but like I dunno, everything just got really heavy on the sad tip... so by the time my Uncle Bobbing passed, it just kinda made like my heart really all the more heavy & I dunno... it kinda made me like mentally regress back to missing Dave more while like just being sad that my relatives passed... I mean, my Uncles & Aunties were up there in age & lived good long fulfilling lives & well, yeah, i dunno what I'm tryin' to say, it all just kinda added up & got me in a mondo hardcore funk... ooh yeah.. Mondo Thanks to everyone who been helping me get through this :) Part 2 I kinda wasn't feelin' like going out Friday night, but I already kinda promised people i'd be Pulse, so i went.. I mean.. I also figure of all the weeks of yucky that built up in my head, i just needed dance floor & to be surrounded by my 2nd Family! Like it was my 1st time back in Paradise in yeeeeears... that venue got really cute! So yeah... all the sets were Dope!!! The residents totally like brought in the vibe w/ their smooth like tech house kinda breaky electro funky yummy stuff, Alixr & Dhamma, then like the big outta town DJ, ummm, I think her name is Dory, she played alota minimal techno, tech house, & alota tribal techno, oh my goodness, when Birthday Chica Forest got on the decks, man, she rocked the floor so hard with her Electro House & her hard yummy ear candy stompy dancefloor goodness... Mozzie played his Glitchy breaks & housey kinda stuff, & Eric Sharp played his booty bass music... actually, 2 songs I liked alot from his set were Hatorade & Short Dick Man.. I mean.. they wre remixes, but it was fun to hear! So the energy was reeeeally good, there was just a thickness of this yummy vibe at the club & soooooooooo many people came outta the woodwork from the old skool days! There were like so many heads from the old skool that I got to catch up with!! My homie Crave from washington State was at the club too & we hella got to chill! I did dance alot, but I mean.. well.. so I sprained my ankle like a lil over a month ago @ the Junlge club & it hasn't fully healed yet, so i couldn't dance too hard really, but man, I'm kinda pissed @ myself for just not letting go... most of my night I was just kinda out of it... it probably woulda been better if i just let go & danced as hard as I could of, but something just held me back, it was totally lame for me to be like that, but I dunno man.. but still all in all, the night fuckin' rocked so damn hard & I did get from it what I could get which was good enough to plaster some yummy memories in my head! I mean.. Hello 2day, even like chillin' in the balcony watchin' people dance & vibin' to the music was good too!!! All you SFR heads who I got to hang out with & stuff, like seriously.. Thank U for the hugz & all the comfort I needed lastnight!!! Part 3 So I chilled w/ the crew & helped out a lil after the cluib closed 'cause I needed time to kill b4 BART opened up.. after all that & alota goodbye hugz n cuddlze, i had a few seconds to formulate a plan to kill time... then I realized that I mean, well.. I had my ipod w/ yummy choonage playing & alota long empty sidewalks, so I figured I could practice my model walk down the runway to some Janet Jackson & figure out what to do.. walked by 1015 to see if there were anyone I knew was leaving the club or outside smoking, no one, so I just practiced my model walk down folsum street somemore! I ended up at this gay porn store, probably bugging the fuck outa the cashier with all my questions.. but he musta been freaked out by some guy comin' in @ 4:30AM with a top hat on & a shiny ass blue puffy vinyl jacket... yeah.. i also like did price checks on jock straps 'cause I dunno.. it looked like fun to wear from teh pictures on the box.. but didn't buy one 'cause I wan't sure about what size I'd be... After the gay porn store, I went to 8 flavors Cafe thingie on 5th & almost Market... while I was eating my crumb donut & drinking my choco milk, i remembered that my Russian Bronx New Yorker Homie who does the sidewalk water hose cleaning at Powell bart station was gonna be there... but unfortunately, by the time I rushed & got there, he wasn't there no more, but like it was still wet all around there, so he probs just left :( So I just waited w/ the few people there for BART to open... I kinda just walked around kinda singing, hopefully I wasn't too loud... OK, now this is the trippy part & what kinda lifted my spirits.. as soon as the BART gates opened up, I started walkin' to the ticket machine.. I felt this tap on my shoulder, turned around, & saw this lady talkin' to me & I soooooooooo could not hear her 'cause my ipod was like drowning out her voice... but yeah.. that lady ended up being my classmate Danielle from acting school like back in the 90s & we ain't seen each other in heeeeeeeella years.. so we spent like almost 20 minutes catching up... like we hella gossiped about like old classmates & what we been up to the past hella years... Hello 2day, i shouldn't of told her that he ex-boyfriend used to hit on my when they were dating, but it just kinda slipped out... but yeah, ooops! That was Dope to see her & well.. she works for MUNI now too!! So yeah... that was my Friday night adventure! i still feel kinda shitty, & I know it'll be a while for my head to fully recover from the recent yucky.. but I'll get there! :) Thanks again to everyone I saw there from the list! I Love y'all lots!!! -- Take Care <3 Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150308-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 02 18:45:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4789 invoked by uid 1103); 2 Mar 2009 18:45:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4750 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2009 18:45:23 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DRUGS_MUSCLE autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 18:45 +0000 From: "Holt Sorenson" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Mail::SendEasy/1.2 Perl/5.010000-linux Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20090302184527.56CC9F8363@bit.tuplemovers.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: tony hewitt / martin o'brien / ravi pina =50=6C=65=61=73=65 =74=75=6E=65 =69=6E =74=6F =4B=5A=53=55 =62=79 =6C=69=73= =74=65=6E=69=6E=67 =74=6F =39=30=2E=31 =69=6E =74=68=65 =42=61=79 =41=72=65= =61 =6F=72 =70=6F=69=6E=74=69=6E=67 =79=6F=75=72 =77=65=62 =62=72=6F=77=73=65=72 =74= =6F =68=74=74=70=3A=2F=2F=6B=7A=73=75=6C=69=76=65=2E=73=74=61=6E=66=6F=72= =64=2E=65=64=75=2E =49=66 =79=6F=75=27=72=65 =69=6E=74=65=72=65=73=74=65=64 =69=6E =67=75=65= =73=74 =61=70=70=65=61=72=69=6E=67 =6F=6E =61=6E=79 =6F=66 =6F=75=72 =73=68= =6F=77=73 =6F=72 =68=61=76=69=6E=67 =61 =6D=69=78 =66=65=61=74=75=72=65=64 =63=6F=6E= =74=61=63=74 =75=73 =75=73=69=6E=67 =6F=75=72 =65=6D=61=69=6C =61=64=64=72= =65=73=73=65=73 =6F=72=3A =65=6C=65=63=74=72=6F=6E=69=63=61=64=6A=73=40=6B=7A=73=75=2E=73= =74=61=6E=66=6F=72=64=2E=65=64=75 =42=69=67 =4C=6F=76=65 =53=68=6F=77 =77=69=74=68 =4A=61=63=6B - 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If you're interested in guest appearing on any of our shows or having a mix featured contact us using our email addresses or: electronicadjs@kzsu.stanford.edu Big Love Show with Jack - Mon 3PM-6PM Pacific/US ------------------------------------------------ This week Jack is hosting Martin O'Brien and Tony Hewitt. Martin O'Brien is one of the most prominent figures of Bay Area underground history. He's the organizer of the legendary "Gathering" & "Basics" parties in which DJs like Tony, Jeno, Garth, Spun, and Josh were the residents, and the prevailing sounds of the day were acid & tribal house. Every old-schooler knows these parties and every old-schooler knows how influential they were. You can find out more about Martin O'Brien at: http://hsomusic.com/sh/43 Tony Hewitt has been working with Mark "Blakkat" Bell to do live music for the MoMusic events in the Bay Area. A native of Manchester, England, Tony came to the U.S. in 1988. While living in Southern California, he discovered L.A.s Underground warehouse parties where hed hear DJs like Doc Martin, Steve Loria, Barry Weaver and Michael Cook - who inspired him to start DJing. In 1992, he moved to San Francisco where he began a residency at the legendary Gathering parties, Funky Tekno Tribe and guest spots at Come-Unity. To date, he has dj'd all over the U.S, Canada, Europe and Indonesia, with guest spots at Fabric in London, the Bomb in Nottingham, La Terraza in Spain and OTV Club in Croatia. In the late 90s Tony, Onionz, Hipp-e & Halo, Joeski & Master D joined forces as the 6400 CREW and went on to record for the best house labels around, like 2020 Vision, NRK, Soma, Yoshitoshi, Tango, Nightshfit, and Detour. Also, DO NOT EVER ask him about Machester United - because TRUE Mancs support Manchester City! You can find out more about Tony Hewitt at: http://hsomusic.com/sh/1U You can find out more about Jack and his show at: http://www.thebigloveshow.com/ Eclektronik Groove w/ Holt Sorenson - Mon 9AM-12PM Pacific/US -------------------------------------------------------------- Holt started off the day with an hour mix and now is hosting Ravi Pina. Ravi Pina has been involved with dance music in one form or another for the last 10 plus years. Starting in Cleveland with promoting parties and then moving around the country to Boston, NYC, and finally SF where he now calls home. His tastes range from trip-hop and downtempo to deep, funky, soulful, and disco house, but will play anything as long as it gets you movin'. After an extended hiatus, he is slowly working his way back into the scene. More about Ravi: http://hsomusic.com/sh/41 http://hsomusic.com/sh/42 Upcoming Events for Holt: 03/08 - The Rhythm Room @ The EndUp 03/15 - The Greenhouse @ Deepmixfm (http://hsomusic.com/sh/1v) Epiphany of Sound with J.C. - Th 9AM-12PM Pacific/US ---------------------------------------------------- After 14 years, DJ J.C.'s techno/house/electronica showcase has garnered much attention and devotion. Like most folks at Stanford's radio station, he's a volunteer, proving that his motivation isn't a paycheck; it's his passion to share his interest in one of music's most eclectic genres. With his conversational style, inclusion of producers and musicians from both the local & international scene, and his stewardship of the station's 24-hour marathons during Solstices and Equinoxes, it's no wonder that DJ J.C has made a connection with listeners in a very crowded market. Catch his live broadcasts or listen to the previous week's program at underheard.org. J.C. will email this week if he has an update on any guests. Thanks for your support!!! -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Th @ 6-9AM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150310-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 03 04:58:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45933 invoked by uid 1103); 3 Mar 2009 04:58:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45915 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2009 04:58:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SAetHQEhsyv9UVVrrX5f143yVGbER1ZJk5wk9+134cg=; b=gpQsNGHqpBL+rl2sjCDgGQ0Aa9kXlXiUKAfpeLmQLKQLic0D/VBfZnO4PDorXIwMpS 3vnBq88P3z/ZSyQ4aUNFIUM6lHIi51ZIYuvPEWqXabWtJLjlvnW/13eal1r8XIgNnv7v BkIj9/YxQ09aQlViKYDrMxZeR3HI82cVBnF8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=GNrnoJOBq9PUBNyv5PLQjbW8AveGq82hOwNClmYAYaS8fTQ8LKvz7yWYAVZDZVTWJn 1vzkAqNFA8tBn6dyUGDi1GETMuQLR21B7uwx2b5I6dEYc+85Dr8pixQP7vpYqKJ+Dncu R/lNKpywal7GLVCMHnje5ZnhyxJTqToCF28yM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 20:59:02 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9300903022059o7fd7e34bi332dc02fd6952a7c@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] bsp: [KONTROL] Sat.Mar.7th w/ Martin Landsky (PokerFlat) + Audio Werner LIVE (Perlon) Saturday, March 7th, 2009 [ K O N T R O L ] minimal techno + avant house every 1st Saturday at The Endup featuring from Berlin: MARTIN LANDSKY (Poker Flat . Dessous . Intim) Martin Landsky is without a doubt one of the most revered and sought-after names in underground dance music today. In addition to running the Poker Flat Nights with Steve Bug and producing for several ace labels including his own Intim, his skills behind the decks (including exalted performances at last year's WMC and DEMF) have raised his profile to near legendary proportions. Prepare for a night of sexy and artful house and techno, paired with the impeccable programming and flawless mixing Martin has come to be known for the world over. and from Cologne: AUDIO WERNER - LIVE (Perlon . Hartchef Discos. Hello?Repeat . Ware) (Circus Company. Trapez . Musique Risqu=E9e) Audio Werner first caught our ears and won our hearts at 2006's DEMF, where his jaw-dropping live PA stole the show at the Get Perlonized afterparty. His highly creative, technically masterful, and relentlessly funky productions have established a benchmark of quality strived for by musicians around the globe. We've wanted to bring him over for years, and are truly honored to now present a rare live performance of brand new material by one of our favorite artists in his SF debut. with [KONTROL] residents: CRAIG KUNA (Platform . ESDJCO) http://www.myspace.com/craig1 ALLAND BYALLO (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail) http://www.myspace.com/alland SAMMY D (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil) http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle NIKOLA BAYTALA (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own) http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat Set times: 1000-1100 Nikola Baytala 1100-1200 Alland Byallo 1200-0100 Craig Kuna 0100-0230 Audio Werner (live) 0230-0500 Martin Landsky 0500-0600 Sammy D ____________________________________________________ The ENDUP 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $20 http://www.theendup.com FREE before 11pm! ____________________________________________________ [KONTROL] on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf Flyer front: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/K45F.jpg Flyer back: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/K45B.jpg Poster: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/K45P.jpg ___________________________________________________ MARTIN LANDSKY Unlike any other German protagonist of the electronic dance scene, Martin Landsky withdrew himself from the well known category of electronic dance music. The verbal approach is of course only a portion of the complete and original sound of Landsky=91s music which combines Techno, House, Minimal and Funk. He has been creating waves as a sensational DJ and producer since the mid-90's and Landsky has also been heard and recognized since 2000 as one of the key figures in the circle of producers at Poker Flat Recordings. The label owner Steve Bug is also a long term friend of Landsky. "As a DJ and as musician I try to balance between both traditional House and Techno music. Despite the fact that I use a lot of reduction for that electronic sound, it is my duty to create deep music which must also always include twisty and funky elements=93 says Martin. With confidant mixing from retrostyle roots to up-to-date Club music, this all but consequently represents Landsky like hardly any other musician and DJ of the Poker Flat Style. The special affinity to the roots of black club music fell in Landsky=91s sight early on in his life. Through his hobby of breakdancing as an eleven year old boy, Martin Landsky aquired an impulsive contact to dance music, from funk to hiphop. Starting initially on a tapedeck and then later on his fathers Bontempi organ, as well as a pitch control record player, it was clear to see from the first single megamixes he produced that he had lost his heart hopelessly to the music. In the beginning DJing was always the most important thing for Landsky=91s musical identity. He was just fourteen when he first started to perform at school celebrations and private parties. Of course the ultimate moment of his musical carrier came around when he first visited Hamburg=91s Kultclub Front in 1988. The mixture of Funk and the growing trend of House, Acid and Techno electrified Landsky like nothing else before and has affected his musical aesthetics up untill the present day.. In 1994 his hard work and persistance payed off and his dream came true when he was offered a regular residency at his favourite club. It soon became clear that Landsky would not last the duration as just an exclusive and shining local heroic DJ and so then started to work for the newly established distribution department of Container Records. He then later worked for the distribution company Word and Sound, and it was through both of these jobs that he gained valuable contacts which helped him to travel much further afield as a DJ. At the end of 1999 he made a last and final decision to leave Hamburg and try his luck in Berlin as a full time DJ and Musician. With the help of regular Bookings and his friends Cl=E9 and Steve Bug, he helped to arrange a series of "Poker Flat Nights" at famous "Sternradio" and regular headliner bookings in some of the most renowned clubs in Berlin such as E-Werk, the Pfefferbank, Tresor and Casino. He also put together many Mix CD=91s for labels such as Poker Flat, Systematic and the Partysan complilation series which turned Landsky into one of the most important figures in the German Club sound of the year 2000. Parallel to this and as a result of his music productions, Landsky gained the status as one of the most important protagonists with a slightly different understanding of house music. Two years after Martin Landsky=91s first release in 1995 called "Sampled House Vol. 1" for Container Records, he then announced the release of his first 12" the "Horner Corner EP" in 1997 under the name of Pseudonym 'City Nord' on the London label MC Projects. From this point on Landsky=91s definition of House music became internationally known. The following year Martin released his 12=93 "My Hidden Basement" which was the starting point of his first new label=82 Effortil Records, then came "Love-Fourty" which was the second release to appear in 1999. His label, now under the name of Intim Recordings and of course his first releases for Dessous ("Wild EP") and Poker Flat ("Crude Clay"), made him acquainted for the first time within a big circle of renown DJ=91s and producers. Still, in the year 2000 he began working on his first longplayer for Poker Flat Records, which in the following year brought his status up to an international level. "In Between" was the title of Landskys debut album which was directly linked to his third Intim-EP "Follow Me" and the Poker Flat Records 12" release "Sweet Sweet Morning". The year 2001 was the most productive and successful year in Landsky=91s career. In the Summer of 2003 Landsky had reached a new point in his understanding of House music. On "Reject" he worked together intensively with Filip G., an amazing vocalist from Hamburg. Not least because of the catchy vocals, the single became a massive global club hit which lasted for weeks in the German club charts and which also landed Landsky into the playlists of some of the hippest DJs around. There was also Landsky=91s remix of the single "The Difference" by DK7 which was played to extent up and down the clubs worldwide. Besides the remixes (for D.H.S., Marc Romboy, Booka Shade, Eyerer & Chopstick or Namito) In the past, Landsky recently created some special moments for club nights with the hits "Fools (They Don't Know The Time)" from 2004, "FM Safari" (2005) and last but not least "1000 Miles" (2006), a dusky hypnotic masterpiece which is without a doubt Landsky=91s most successful piece of work. More recently "Let me Dance" was the next track to follow up in the footsteps of "1000 Miles". *** Resident Advisor on Landsky's return to NYC: "Does Martin Landsky play the sexiest techno in the business? After blow-up sets in Miami and Detroit last year coupled with a devastating afterhours performance at Rebel for Sunday School for Degenerates New York, Martin returns for a follow-up lesson in house, techno, with hints of acid. The Intim label headmaster puts together a portfolio with everything from flawless mixing to sexy vocals that shows why he is hailed as one of the top DJs in the upper class of the Techno community." =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Martin Landsky's website: http://www.landsky.de/ Martin Landsky's discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/martin%20landsky Martin Landsky on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/mlandsky =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Martin Landsky - Live @ Oslo, Detroit 05.25.08 http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/Martin_Landsky_@_Oslo_-_DEMF08.mp3 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Martin Landsky @ Kecel Fest, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dh5iRB7dC5-k Martin Landsky @ Romy S, Stuttgart - 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVti0LcXUxgU __________________________________________________________________ AUDIO WERNER Andreas Werner is one of today's most prolific figures in the incredible techno universe of Cologne. He encapsulates a delicate rhythmic sound and expression that is best exemplified in his 12=94 'Zwrtshak Drive'=97a favorite among artists such as Guido Schneider, Richie Hawtin and Ricardo Villalobos. It was also a #1 selection in the German publication Groove Magazine. Supported in recent years by Triple R (head of the Traum label) under his pseudonym Audio Werner, Andreas has developed a sound that has renewed and continued the refined techno tradition in Cologne=97the flagship European city for electronic music over the last decade. Audio Werner has had releases on Perlon, Hello?Repeat, Traum, Trapez, Moon Harbour, Ware, and his own Hartchef Discos, disseminating his meticulous works that today still reveal many fresh nuances. His sound is part of a genre that the Germans gravitate to consistently and not without palpable success, especially considering the adversity towards decadent raves in recent memory. Both contemplative and functional, his musical style is a voice for artistic minimalism in Cologne and serves as a reference for the entire international scene. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Audio Werner's website: http://www.hartchef.de Audio Werner's discography http://www.discogs.com/artist/Audio%20Werner Audio Werner on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/audiowerner =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Audio Werner - DJ set @ Crossroads, Tokyo 06.23.07 http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/Audio_Werner_-_DJ_set_2007.mp3 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Audio Werner @ Subway, Koln - 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvKFOnDH--dU Audio Werner @ LesIzMor, Brussels - 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxC4iiaElsuc ___________________________________________________ http://www.kontrolsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150311-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 00:19:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99863 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 00:19:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99844 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 00:19:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236125994; bh=ui7W5Iyr5xfap/M30Kg+JUeIYASozSUgCOhv46QYZgM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RaHIm9WxY7mgEfFK+AoD8THWsyr4PbtBbVNdAxdYSG8seEd5s4IeB0jK1YGBO2t8af8CTrnYq8Rknq9JBEeWK7k2kJDs74eFqh5Ve1m1QRcKHtrHnlqFa3RXr1dzzY5mjiq5xfDQsav/f4USYoCjdboAqvGfGdvgiuaz064eYP0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o4vHX8MsIO0WwoDzr9gNaI3mHeBsLSF+M1eQBCpWVqFl7Ym/zfgELVMrLX4b2amnCBmK6XRg1eobwHgQ9EoLbRzoH6nYdZOf3iDtAy3UveypHmAUQBNl91+eD3Ui7zIIC1Jup+OnxY2tI6one4IMJFHK6+LAsQ5+DCbMZOZmnaE=; Message-ID: <322041.25218.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aseRv0UVM1lcXHzODLqL4XF.QwWZBUn0ImwVssRUn2lxM9e_UdukdKg3LCyg9Rm.UvTKjBvTf_nP7fqJQTUSNqWJ4aOpTxRISySkH8YeVJGluiuAJHdNDY7I3a1lXiwgnjaF_Gb3U1y3FAW5I2.ld1tUBw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:19:54 -0800 (PST) From: fable Reply-To: fable_four@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood lately...I thought I give this a shot. Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good house music from the bad? I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what kind of house music? I like it all, electro, funky, whatever. If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of your favorite tracks/artists? Thanks. fable.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150312-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 00:29:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4820 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 00:29:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4798 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 00:29:37 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:29:56 -0800 Message-ID: <3C674304D2F7FA4A9C0FAC35DE6E426428E163@procedemail01.procedesoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <322041.25218.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? thread-index: AcmcXvQi8ZATTU8+Qf2IDv5gROPuugAAVXuQ References: <322041.25218.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Daniel Faustine" To: , X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Well... if you like it all, then it's all good... right? Hence, no need to weed. So to speak. -----Original Message----- From: fable [mailto:fable_four@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:20 PM To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood lately...I thought I give this a shot. Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good house music from the bad? I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what kind of house music? I like it all, electro, funky, whatever. If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of your favorite tracks/artists? Thanks. fable.... =20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150313-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 00:32:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7481 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 00:32:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 7465 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 00:32:02 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: Fww.IakVM1lqkZOubPEkgYpJtm2AMGUCXvA41Wt3MOVrsfO9NUgrvMVkmnV1HcHp5A6fZC9rO_ek7EZFD_tXAm4tkSONU6aRkxnVXslLQvgw5EiN8BB47DBy6AdN39dh7qGCW6uRVWZqVBOBOmsrMmD9y.PSUh8gmFmP1Rsxybwn9z.GiUThq0RnrLCkiicG3vrjRaETYD.pHX52NOqegse1jtAuxpyrUA-- X-RocketYMMF: KeW_l3oy X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 16:32:21 -0800 (PST) From: Phillip Mispagel Reply-To: phillip@viberation.com To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, Daniel Faustine In-Reply-To: <3C674304D2F7FA4A9C0FAC35DE6E426428E163@procedemail01.procedesoftware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <435731.86501.qm@web1103.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? An easy way is to only play vinyl. Since vinyl is the best and all music released on vinyl is good, you're pretty much set if you just buy vinyl house records. All digital house music is bad, period. --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Daniel Faustine wrote: > From: Daniel Faustine > Subject: RE: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 4:29 PM > Well... if you like it all, then it's all good... right? > Hence, no need to weed. So to speak. > > -----Original Message----- > From: fable [mailto:fable_four@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 4:20 PM > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood lately...I > thought I give > this a shot. > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good house > music from the > bad? I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is > what kind of house > music? I like it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of your > favorite > tracks/artists? > > Thanks. > > fable.... > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150314-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 00:46:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13649 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 00:46:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13616 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 00:46:33 -0000 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:46:17 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A79C30DCB52_4E8_2229_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A79C30DCB52_4E8_2229_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" So I usually suck at getting subgenres right so excuse me if I mislabled it, but it's kind of... fidget/electro housish, if I remember correctly. The hook says something along the lines of, "I find myself in the middle of the dance floor, in the middle of the dance floor, all eyes on me." Also says, "You can dance if you want to." (And no, it's not Safety Dance, thankyouverymuch.) Has a male and female vocal, heavily filtered. Any clue? Was trying to find it online somewhere to send to a friend. Thanks! (Yes, I'm still alive.) Hearts and farts, Alida ----------MB_8CB6A79C30DCB52_4E8_2229_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150315-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 01:02:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22770 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 01:02:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22754 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 01:02:02 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:02:22 -0800 (PST) From: AndyW X-X-Sender: andy@atari To: littleetoile@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e->So I usually suck at getting subgenres right so excuse me if I mislabled it, but it's kind of... fidget/electro housish, if I remember correctly. -&e-> -&e->The hook says something along the lines of, "I find myself in the middle of the dance floor, in the middle of the dance floor, all eyes on me." Also says, "You can dance if you want to." (And no, it's not Safety Dance, thankyouverymuch.) Has a male and female vocal, heavily filtered. -&e-> -&e->Any clue? Was trying to find it online somewhere to send to a friend. Thanks! -&e-> -&e->(Yes, I'm still alive.) -&e-> -&e->Hearts and farts, -&e->Alida I'm allowed to laugh my ass off on this one... But is it: Britney Spears - Circus (Mysto & Pizzi Electro House Remix) andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150316-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 01:12:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31211 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 01:12:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31193 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 01:12:02 -0000 References: <322041.25218.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:12:08 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 In-Reply-To: <322041.25218.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A7D5FEA650E_4E8_251D_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB6A7D5FE0DB9E-4E8-1233@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? ----------MB_8CB6A7D5FEA650E_4E8_251D_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my punk rock friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote out a list. He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. Frankie Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. It's certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I forgot some maaajor players (already had to add a few since I first messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, for a start: Always good to browse here: http://undergroundhouse.net/ On that first page is a set by Troydon that is awesome, recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple years ago. I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of the sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid aside from that. You can also go directly to here and search by artist if you sort by artist name: http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes There are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll start you off with some of the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also pretty much all new stuff on UGH, but... As posted recently, you can also check out old SF House sets here: http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html And more from all over the U.S. here: http://www.ezeskankin.com/ I haven't listened to most of the sets on those two mixtape sites, but classic artists I might suggest: -DJ Dan -Doc Martin -Donal Glaude -Dutch -Galen -Garth -Halo -Hipp-E -Jeno -John Howard -Josh Wink -Mark Farina -Markie -Marques Wyatt -Onionz -Rick Preston -Roy Davis Jr -DJ Sneak -DJ Spun -Terry Mullan -Tony -Diz -Sound Republic -DJ Heather -Greenskeepers -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different aliases) -Paul Johnson -Derrick Carter -Justin Long -Miss Honey Dijon -Joshua (Iz) -Jt Donaldson -Raoul Belmans -Jason Hodges -Joey Youngman (***This below was specific to what he was looking for, so I don't know how applicable it is to you, but...***): You also might want to check out some of Terrence Parker's stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on the Terrence Parker track I have under my music section Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav faaaaav producers): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek And here is one of my all time classic favs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related And another: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo That's all on the more traditional, lighter side of things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house stuff is also really big right now in SF. Click here and listen to the "bump bump" track for an example: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest released set (third down) from New Year's Day Stompy+Sunset party (though of the "dirty" shit, he's still on the lighter, more melodic side of things, which I love). That will give you a good overview of what's popping right now: http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php For most of the sets you listen to you can go on UGH and then search in the Track ID section to find the name of the record you like. Or if no one's put it up, you can post and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to ID this record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] mix, at [time in mix when track comes in]."). People are generally pretty helpful. *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the trick is to pay attention to the records you like, grab the name of the label, then search more of that label's stuff. You'll probably start to notice trends in artists and labels that you like best. I'm not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the most knowledgeable when it comes to digging for records, but that should give you a start. Good luck! :) Lumph, Alida -----Original Message----- From: fable To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood lately...I thought I give this a shot. Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good house music from the bad? I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what kind of house music? I like it all, electro, funky, whatever. If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of your favorite tracks/artists? Thanks. fable.... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org ----------MB_8CB6A7D5FEA650E_4E8_251D_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150317-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 01:15:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33655 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 01:15:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33590 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 01:14:58 -0000 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> To: andy@saturn5.com Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:14:04 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A7DA524464A_4E8_2546_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A7DA524464A_4E8_2546_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. -----Original Message----- From: AndyW To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:02 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e->So I usually suck at getting subgenres right so excuse me if I mislabled it, but it's kind of... fidget/electro housish, if I remember correctly. -&e-> -&e->The hook says something along the lines of, "I find myself in the middle of the dance floor, in the middle of the dance floor, all eyes on me." Also says, "You can dance if you want to." (And no, it's not Safety Dance, thankyouverymuch.) Has a male and female vocal, heavily filtered. -&e-> -&e->Any clue? Was trying to find it online somewhere to send to a friend. Thanks! -&e-> -&e->(Yes, I'm still alive.) -&e-> -&e->Hearts and farts, -&e->Alida I'm allowed to laugh my ass off on this one... But is it: Britney Spears - Circus (Mysto & Pizzi Electro House Remix) andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org ----------MB_8CB6A7DA524464A_4E8_2546_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150318-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 01:43:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51366 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 01:43:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51348 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 01:43:38 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:43:58 -0800 (PST) From: AndyW X-X-Sender: andy@atari To: littleetoile@aol.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e-> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. -&e-> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how Fidget/Electro it is?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150319-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 01:49:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54472 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 01:49:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54413 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 01:49:09 -0000 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> To: andy@saturn5.com Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 20:46:55 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A823B8207AE_4E8_288F_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A823B8207AE_4E8_288F_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I fucking hate you, Andy. (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy oxygen tank to Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.) -----Original Message----- From: AndyW To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e-> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. -&e-> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how Fidget/Electro it is?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). andyw ----------MB_8CB6A823B8207AE_4E8_288F_WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150320-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 02:21:25 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75511 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 02:21:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75491 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 02:21:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=wWv8oltweu673kPS4RcV4UhNjXfSFSei48cgOeYeJXA=; b=X3sn95o80OK0ugeYTxi5hgVyMruq9MVvULDs04FZ/n2eHIrq2zOdBj6emrSJ6Pd2QI WL1bvLdWclSp/yWoRD7WAC6K4l9FggbVkLXYQZMtWaIR6Knf++POgqSlLz0YC3rDpC+7 EYNV65jAkd+uyHNfj5fByWEj3hODQaWwNq69g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=p6TNHX6BAbHTvsO0whLZ9BXV4+1OYu9Yg9z1PlRpAzMttenVWEfF/W6rYtmYNt1y88 uONAHSFxQUElkt0svZJMp8qrvCHVur3L+wLBXw5n7Xvt6DTNmkVClRhnGRjgROAzChR2 wiJNx9AwH+DT6Y+dQ+jDPz/2P+n6yKO+nmMyA= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <9F45A79E-A28B-4D94-8CB6-F662BC3FF4C2@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: AndyW In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:21:41 -0800 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Andy- that's not fidget/electro house, that's house/fidget electro- Of all people I would expect *you* to get these things straight- -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 5:02 PM, AndyW wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > -&e->So I usually suck at getting subgenres right so excuse me if I > mislabled it, but it's kind of... fidget/electro housish, if I > remember correctly. > -&e-> > -&e->The hook says something along the lines of, "I find myself in > the middle of the dance floor, in the middle of the dance floor, all > eyes on me." Also says, "You can dance if you want to." (And no, > it's not Safety Dance, thankyouverymuch.) Has a male and female > vocal, heavily filtered. > -&e-> > -&e->Any clue? Was trying to find it online somewhere to send to a > friend. Thanks! > -&e-> > -&e->(Yes, I'm still alive.) > -&e-> > -&e->Hearts and farts, > -&e->Alida > > I'm allowed to laugh my ass off on this one... > > But is it: > Britney Spears - Circus (Mysto & Pizzi Electro House Remix) > > andyw > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150321-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 02:40:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87236 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 02:40:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87216 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 02:40:30 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236134444; bh=rJ0y2eT3viC75CCPfJt3GAa1hx2PR60CS6x+L/r4v9w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kbbJ8Mtaf/g2j7fRcBJGNlkKaLwbTJcxYmAAkw+6CFr4QhYK0XgAWibwCGGHY6WaSR6eTF191qrhUYF+L0u+2k7nimkVcrWuJ9gYxjEzY9bW18T88PveZrgE7TQrtG3X8bKRoj95G9jl8Pw+PbDfT7ASD5eEU6OCIXUrRAFwQ08= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e+GILQaiZAivPjN34rXxj1OcWBXknovVEWaDFUzGdTzWCkpbkVLpS3Y2L8iq/4PTk4NOE86/Sbr2ep/r7FJVhAvXDOUeMSccQFRizVIAZBwRJySCvTJ/1brqDmn1YvUxrRmObg3iit56NqJUUNGmGVOP9GsM7Qxlrj6RUWjVEYo=; Message-ID: <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dHceJGsVM1mNWBv2PNtwfqTeyxLmqBIYUFDcWeTaX4o17KUP9NNQ9KzXQuX.4YYT8aCV..cKmWy8VVVz287FNC7_0skBEHlGlr9eu0k6PoLddUswndT5tSmKVCD0PZLjbVExNGCTwCO7Ai63Kbdiqk3OPAkN6cRyhbJerA9ILT0bdTkXyg2ANi2UvW6VsA7xzuMg6vgy8RzNcaNTo3A- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 18:40:44 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: AndyW , littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House I this thread... But Andy that links no good, I thin kyou meant this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: AndyW To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:43:58 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e-> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. -&e-> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how Fidget/Electro it is?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150322-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 03:26:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14880 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 03:26:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14864 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 03:26:19 -0000 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, andy@saturn5.com Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:26:20 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.202.94.154 In-Reply-To: <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A901F5089CF_1634_134A_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6A901F47005F-1634-99B@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A901F5089CF_1634_134A_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OH, HAI. THANKS GUYZ. God, this list is so fucking useless. Why I'm still on here after ten years is beyond me. You all suck. -Alida, continuing this useless thread -----Original Message----- From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: AndyW ; littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House I this thread... But Andy that links no good, I thin kyou meant this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: AndyW To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:43:58 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e-> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. -&e-> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how Fidget/Electro it is?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org ----------MB_8CB6A901F5089CF_1634_134A_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150323-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 04:24:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34419 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 04:24:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34401 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 04:24:10 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=F1WPv1jamDl5XbQSpUAZlg76kJ1pOXbfR+quFgU7fag=; b=lVdOgUUmoTLaPAT+9KmJy0lFugr5FiaKwlj7/3wl00+7MZom8MfUj7tvVJ07/BHqKr zt8QCHUC5G0k7oP458OEIiAWinBD9ML39nRVLlhIjedQT7+lVuKSWZ4al4hmIjIhqXM+ J38PBB/NpN0yUFxqSOZgZjDneou7VxsbbXoJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=aRIh4fRmYbvGOibdn9JZ71eccThWB4Sa9n3K6JRp56hri1Cw+mG5gdV/LcOFvsjZ5K ou8/CHAKXOeHDkHH9O/kjGPad+3K9Cvx/CaRcn0YVXP4jjISom24fGoZSfl03L9q86zB QOL2HooMpsa4W31p0hRCgTOSalXw3ztG3BDFk= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: AndyW , littleetoile@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <86B699F4-6E40-46E6-A37C-5C357E97BD40@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:24:27 -0800 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Great- I click on yours and then had to click on his which I hadn't earlier- I think that was the first of the new year! Let's just get this over with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbGkxcY7YFU -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:40 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > I this thread... > > But Andy that links no good, I thin kyou meant this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA > > Best, > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: AndyW > To: littleetoile@aol.com > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:43:58 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > -&e-> > -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. > -&e-> > -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give > me a little more credit than that. > > Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. > > Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how > Fidget/Electro it is?: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI > > Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). > andyw > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150324-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 04:27:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35873 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 04:27:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35856 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 04:27:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=HpWWb4/OyQJbFwuNx0wVTga4GVOpHN8jW1M9yO9vZBU=; b=p+k4p4yNaUznZYLfmCQMtvML6xWzTk9cPl/3fZT2qPl3fO5hyTEyyR8utilDai4ZSf e82eg5Q7+lVpGhT9whA6JcG5I5CnmhBVfLgVlZavBUoqcLoF/7tNrAR7gSfiqiV3yzz3 xhB/NhgqnkXGBjYwKnIRe8JP/kL0n/B305Ug0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=mueRumZRIq8kgHKv1O/2vyL4QSFAJfqmIe9TnEkxHZWCga4UuQ6xKbwyssktx8S5Cm 2WF6jT8ZGXKj0IDyV2KQ1FI0SshF8LAnX0XB2FUbVVgPFg5A+G4eX3wQawOEHIUFHOYi iedyA/oPy34FU9uGjz0v6HCz0+noijzRkYNYM= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: AndyW , littleetoile@aol.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <156AF798-373C-4E37-9651-D148556B7CEE@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:27:24 -0800 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Oh shit! Wrong link!! Don't click that one- here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruef7aYCEbc -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 6:40 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > I this thread... > > But Andy that links no good, I thin kyou meant this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA > > Best, > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: AndyW > To: littleetoile@aol.com > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:43:58 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > -&e-> > -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. > -&e-> > -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give > me a little more credit than that. > > Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. > > Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how > Fidget/Electro it is?: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI > > Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). > andyw > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150325-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 04:45:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43043 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 04:45:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43027 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 04:45:08 -0000 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> To: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:45:14 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.202.94.154 In-Reply-To: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A9B247E92F7_1634_194E_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A9B247E92F7_1634_194E_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, ANDY. Here are some more lyrics: "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to." *music* "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all eyes on- all eyes on-" It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get the idea. Thaaaanks. -Alida -----Original Message----- From: littleetoile@aol.com To: andy@saturn5.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House I fucking hate you, Andy. (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy oxygen tank to Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.) -----Original Message----- From: AndyW To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e-> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. -&e-> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how Fidget/Electro it is?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). andyw ----------MB_8CB6A9B247E92F7_1634_194E_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150326-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 05:03:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48358 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 05:03:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 48342 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 05:03:16 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=ovZ25AuaQLzcw6vl8q30hlS6BqDxVioYlxekAZ5JUUE=; b=EtKKEOa9GAwv8GzjMeKGQazioR+Ag2MTRVBoA7j5vuiUGU1MIPcbgdROg2S6pnx9PI gwIeRS0flPKRNsmmuyC4VE9xfv6H8PoHpDIQIHlXKhv56Ck5AdR+0zJy/ctgPCJJKfuj AK/J5DyeHFEa30Y1iDZarrule2PWgv+3Fyw64= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=aGyCTZJgULf4M9zNpgv7hwz2xBYNkJEzEONZhZ4y9xa3vWA1F+V1C4JtX2w6nX5O0X +btGxoDPuCw9Wwg49E0o0hThQVO/OJiZpMJmFC7vBDesuladLmxayKilmRYkfolYN4DC sx+IR94khNej79kSF887B4mCq9QwC5QQgECNo= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: littleetoile@aol.com In-Reply-To: <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:03:32 -0800 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > > I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, ANDY. > > > > Here are some more lyrics: > > > > "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now > what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a bottle, one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to. You can > dance if you want to." > > *music* > > "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all eyes > on- all eyes on-" > > It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get the > idea. > > Thaaaanks. > > -Alida > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: littleetoile@aol.com > > To: andy@saturn5.com > > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fucking hate you, Andy. > > > > (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > oxygen tank to > > Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.) > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AndyW > > To: littleetoile@aol.com > > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > -&e-> > > -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. > > -&e-> > > -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give > me a little > > more credit than that. > > > > Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. > > > > Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how > > Fidget/Electro it is?: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI > > > > Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). > > andyw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150327-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 05:07:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49877 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 05:07:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49861 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 05:07:22 -0000 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> To: n7@nathanseven.com Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:07:32 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.202.94.154 In-Reply-To: <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A9E421BA08F_1634_1A81_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A9E421BA08F_1634_1A81_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it pitched up a little more though.) How did you figure it out? -Alida -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Seven To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? ? -N7? ? On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? ? >? >? > I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx?> The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, ANDY.? >? >? >? > Here are some more lyrics:? >? >? >? > "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now > what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a bottle, one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to. You can > dance if you want to."? >? > *music*? >? > "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all eyes > on- all eyes on-"? >? > It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get the > idea.? >? > Thaaaanks.? >? > -Alida? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > -----Original Message-----? >? > From: littleetoile@aol.com? >? > To: andy@saturn5.com? >? > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >? > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? >? > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > I fucking hate you, Andy.? >? >? >? > (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > oxygen tank to? >? > Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > -----Original Message-----? >? > From: AndyW ? >? > To: littleetoile@aol.com? >? > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >? > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? >? > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >? > -&e->? >? > -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? >? > -&e->? >? > -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give > me a little? >? > more credit than that.? >? >? >? > Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation.? >? >? >? > Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how? >? > Fidget/Electro it is?:? >? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? >? >? >? > Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!).? >? > andyw? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? ? ----------MB_8CB6A9E421BA08F_1634_1A81_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150328-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 05:14:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53442 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 05:14:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53425 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 05:14:01 -0000 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> To: littleetoile@aol.com, n7@nathanseven.com Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 00:14:09 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.202.94.154 In-Reply-To: <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6A9F2F2915BB_1634_1AC0_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6A9F2F1AC793-1634-D87@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6A9F2F2915BB_1634_1AC0_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oh, and can anyone tell what the vocalist says after "Pretty girls don't dance..."? Something something techno...? Figures the one part of the track that I couldn't catch includes the track title. :P -Alida -----Original Message----- From: littleetoile@aol.com To: n7@nathanseven.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:07 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it pitched up a little more though.) How did you figure it out? -Alida -----Original Message----- From: Nathan Seven To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? ? -N7? ? On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? ? >? >? > I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx?> The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, ANDY.? >? >? >? > Here are some more lyrics:? >? >? >? > "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now > what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a bottle, one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to. You can > dance if you want to."? >? > *music*? >? > "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all eyes > on- all eyes on-"? >? > It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get the > idea.? >? > Thaaaanks.? >? > -Alida? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > -----Original Message-----? >? > From: littleetoile@aol.com? >? > To: andy@saturn5.com? >? > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >? > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? >? > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > I fucking hate you, Andy.? >? >? >? > (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > oxygen tank to? >? > Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > -----Original Message-----? >? > From: AndyW ? >? > To: littleetoile@aol.com? >? > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >? > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? >? > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >? > -&e->? >? > -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? >? > -&e->? >? > -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give > me a little? >? > more credit than that.? >? >? >? > Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation.? >? >? >? > Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how? >? > Fidget/Electro it is?:? >? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? >? >? >? > Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!).? >? > andyw? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? >? ? ----------MB_8CB6A9F2F2915BB_1634_1AC0_FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150329-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 05:21:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56798 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 05:21:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56779 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 05:21:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=8Q63WPjE4z7BZLeTfGIGFhrB9wr2n25Ni8PjeZYjPdY=; b=E4zfLdIXckVFDw0w2jZlJqdKuZFB+b0zldjmIVBK2Wba0ZQdM2RIuDVaaq0iUsKloj /qgP9L2RNBaroAdY4Gt2deRSeslolI2k1v3L1IE1++MKNrVvCTUczTMmaneY37MhHrfb SJ+PXiala2ftlnY7rjZkYUoCU39ERyqZin4Bs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=t1gpUajoTER+KtC/DgRxDg0yLushtqnaEq7E98c0o+iGBL+0QT2uTLPSiuUiui/kuG +D32eoEOVy7JfNLJT9JDWZaui+Nu+4p/StaVzN+Z/idSQwNMChrmScG7ETM1QjVZKdcq 0FHwC3MuF2rXXSxQ6FY8m6xNKCZ//Ptz8nOv0= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <01D78357-3CC6-42D7-B6AB-9B3FE10476FD@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: littleetoile@aol.com In-Reply-To: <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:21:48 -0800 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House How did I know this? I have existed from the morning of the world and I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. Although I have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am no man and therefore I am a God. And to answer your second query- "Pretty girls don't dance we... pose to Techno". -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:07 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it pitched up a > little more though.) > > How did you figure it out? > > -Alida > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Nathan Seven > To: littleetoile@aol.com > Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm > Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? > > (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? > ? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? > ? > > -N7? > ? > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? > ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down >> > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? >> > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, >> ANDY.? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> Here are some more lyrics:? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > >> morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now > >> what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if >> you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a bottle, >> one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. >> You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to. You >> can > dance if you want to."? > >> ? > >> *music*? > >> ? > >> "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a >> > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all >> eyes > on- all eyes on-"? > >> ? > >> It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get >> the > idea.? > >> ? > >> Thaaaanks.? > >> ? > >> -Alida? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> -----Original Message-----? > >> ? > >> From: littleetoile@aol.com? > >> ? > >> To: andy@saturn5.com? > >> ? > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? > >> ? > >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? > >> ? > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> I fucking hate you, Andy.? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > >> oxygen tank to? > >> ? > >> Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> -----Original Message-----? > >> ? > >> From: AndyW ? > >> ? > >> To: littleetoile@aol.com? > >> ? > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? > >> ? > >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? > >> ? > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? > >> ? > >> -&e->? > >> ? > >> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? > >> ? > >> -&e->? > >> ? > >> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give >> > me a little? > >> ? > >> more credit than that.? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation.? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how? > >> ? > >> Fidget/Electro it is?:? > >> ? > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!).? > >> ? > >> andyw? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > >> ? > ? > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150330-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 06:30:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84184 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 06:30:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 84165 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 06:30:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236148276; bh=38o2em/yrNN7sG8Mvfmk3oB4twd/umPxNN/o7e1Ulmk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IE85QJxji4BwiVso1nWwUtXafRWgNyRmh3R6/oC1OTz0TlEfqaC+lTA2+uBQDwxE8fir0CGOaecjevXipX/Adr/JooAB5rOWp6BFcI6J9lvtSyfa4/0F8NnoKR8pau4+8rYamV+UV7tzf5Gtw/AyM96tOsJdRwGa4eXLghnlcIc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y5crk9q/C/Lou5NPO3DFFjgDiAmo+5/ypcyKqmRNtb1gX/kEGEk1DSYegCcscSOJ83DnQiSMuMBjPOStSfewIqI7/O699qhaoXripB+8YL85rs0FIMyArlZbPW6fn77qpcxaHLveB9qEsl3xV0dERnyYU0Y1wgTXrGDsSY1tzfQ=; Message-ID: <815623.37927.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: i_ap9qAVM1lF95phWSY3PAfumS_azHlol7c.jGDRNA5fkCM4pxFnEIGyuVijVqQ8WjiPYA9TBArezEJsgsiZKkL5S_MsQ121nwl4lvUvfHZUptIzM2xqccl1szJIxK4yTnITgVrHf8uAdBAlk1aOgA.Y5ofObvyCzfbf_KZ3SM4Pe9vOPlHPHWmK8_j7ygO_pC7EyXxNNyv_58WU8rIO X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:31:16 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: littleetoile@aol.com, Nathan Seven Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <01D78357-3CC6-42D7-B6AB-9B3FE10476FD@nathanseven.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House dork. you used "shazam" on your iphone. ps: you're a loser for not riding with us on thursday! i'm bringing a snorkel... --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Nathan Seven wrote: > From: Nathan Seven > Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > To: littleetoile@aol.com > Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 9:21 PM > How did I know this? I have existed from the morning of the > world and > I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. > Although I > have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am > no man and > therefore I am a God. > > And to answer your second query- "Pretty girls > don't dance we... pose > to Techno". > > -N7 > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:07 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it > pitched up a > > little more though.) > > > > How did you figure it out? > > > > -Alida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nathan Seven > > To: littleetoile@aol.com > > Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget > /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? > > > > (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? > > ? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? > > ? > > > > -N7? > > ? > > > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com > wrote:? > > ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it > and tracked down > >> > the podcast online: > http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? > >> > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY > NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, > >> ANDY.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Here are some more lyrics:? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> "I woke up this morning, I woke up this > morning, I woke up this > > >> morning with a splitting, banging headache. What > should I do? Now > > >> what should I do? You can dance if you want to. > You can dance if > >> you > want to." *something something > Techno* "One hand on a bottle, > >> one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, > one hand on a groove. > >> You > can dance if you want to. You can dance > if you want to. You > >> can > dance if you want to."? > > > >> ? > > > >> *music*? > > > >> ? > > > >> "I find myself in the middle of a dance > floor, in the middle of a > >> > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, > all eyes on- all > >> eyes > on- all eyes on-"? > > > >> ? > > > >> It basically loops parts of the sample again after > that. You get > >> the > idea.? > > > >> ? > > > >> Thaaaanks.? > > > >> ? > > > >> -Alida? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> -----Original Message-----? > > > >> ? > > > >> From: littleetoile@aol.com? > > > >> ? > > > >> To: andy@saturn5.com? > > > >> ? > > > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? > > > >> ? > > > >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? > > > >> ? > > > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro > House? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> I fucking hate you, Andy.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> (And I was only getting you back for not coming > with your sexy > > >> oxygen tank to? > > > >> ? > > > >> Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> -----Original Message-----? > > > >> ? > > > >> From: AndyW ? > > > >> ? > > > >> To: littleetoile@aol.com? > > > >> ? > > > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? > > > >> ? > > > >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? > > > >> ? > > > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro > House? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e->? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e->? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable > taste at times, but give > >> > me a little? > > > >> ? > > > >> more credit than that.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to > relate to your generation.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but > not sure how? > > > >> ? > > > >> Fidget/Electro it is?:? > > > >> ? > > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday > (they were good!).? > > > >> ? > > > >> andyw? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150331-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 06:32:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85454 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 06:32:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 85436 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 06:32:37 -0000 To: red_stickman@yahoo.com, n7@nathanseven.com Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 01:32:49 -0500 X-AOL-IP: 71.202.94.154 In-Reply-To: <815623.37927.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB6AAA2C2DD4B2_9B4_47F9_FWM-D04.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB6AAA2C26ADAA-9B4-23DC@FWM-D04.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House ----------MB_8CB6AAA2C2DD4B2_9B4_47F9_FWM-D04.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yeah, I was going to call him out on that too. You kids and your technology. -----Original Message----- From: michael the redstickman To: littleetoile@aol.com; Nathan Seven Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:31 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House dork. you used "shazam" on your iphone. ps: you're a loser for not riding with us on thursday! i'm bringing a snorkel... --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Nathan Seven wrote: > From: Nathan Seven > Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > To: littleetoile@aol.com > Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 9:21 PM > How did I know this? I have existed from the morning of the > world and > I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. > Although I > have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am > no man and > therefore I am a God. > > And to answer your second query- "Pretty girls > don't dance we... pose > to Techno". > > -N7 > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:07 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it > pitched up a > > little more though.) > > > > How did you figure it out? > > > > -Alida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Nathan Seven > > To: littleetoile@aol.com > > Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget > /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? > > > > (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? > > ? > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? > > ? > > > > -N7? > > ? > > > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com > wrote:? > > ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it > and tracked down > >> > the podcast online: > http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? > >> > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY > NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, > >> ANDY.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Here are some more lyrics:? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> "I woke up this morning, I woke up this > morning, I woke up this > > >> morning with a splitting, banging headache. What > should I do? Now > > >> what should I do? You can dance if you want to. > You can dance if > >> you > want to." *something something > Techno* "One hand on a bottle, > >> one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, > one hand on a groove. > >> You > can dance if you want to. You can dance > if you want to. You > >> can > dance if you want to."? > > > >> ? > > > >> *music*? > > > >> ? > > > >> "I find myself in the middle of a dance > floor, in the middle of a > >> > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, > all eyes on- all > >> eyes > on- all eyes on-"? > > > >> ? > > > >> It basically loops parts of the sample again after > that. You get > >> the > idea.? > > > >> ? > > > >> Thaaaanks.? > > > >> ? > > > >> -Alida? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> -----Original Message-----? > > > >> ? > > > >> From: littleetoile@aol.com? > > > >> ? > > > >> To: andy@saturn5.com? > > > >> ? > > > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? > > > >> ? > > > >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? > > > >> ? > > > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro > House? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> I fucking hate you, Andy.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> (And I was only getting you back for not coming > with your sexy > > >> oxygen tank to? > > > >> ? > > > >> Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> -----Original Message-----? > > > >> ? > > > >> From: AndyW ? > > > >> ? > > > >> To: littleetoile@aol.com? > > > >> ? > > > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? > > > >> ? > > > >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? > > > >> ? > > > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro > House? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e->? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e->? > > > >> ? > > > >> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable > taste at times, but give > >> > me a little? > > > >> ? > > > >> more credit than that.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to > relate to your generation.? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but > not sure how? > > > >> ? > > > >> Fidget/Electro it is?:? > > > >> ? > > > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday > (they were good!).? > > > >> ? > > > >> andyw? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > > >> ? > > ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org ----------MB_8CB6AAA2C2DD4B2_9B4_47F9_FWM-D04.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150332-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 06:57:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95768 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 06:57:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95749 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 06:57:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:references:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date:cc; bh=W+UTIHmrl8e0sW+hR5/7UOvQL2lpVsVFSGER//TJN/8=; b=X2/QDXR7/1NBs2cdeQ814NkVQD9zpJjiz/iamCsuvppvARpgQZjZYa9kHq83hkT4IH BEF4NO9fLVoHZHDsVKZdClRBR2z0K5wK/1UxO8wj2TRucxCxpowRYIG6QXDsNxhPzKUn F/OSvHkT/zYJ6dgFAEL+FGrk7YYU+d+usjrEQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=references:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version:subject:date:cc; b=v5IXib3ErdkVKfEsh5vU+XfouFRweFd5lBK11CWrEtKLY0TdZvy+h1hXhiBQ+6TCE+ Y/FpVtcydjqMnzHBI5DgxA+Dfrn8/X23efC6xHlt5QZQ+sxDRYQV6ePxDJWZqPFwBc7j j+QFCqAug/c/oRqcNDVKrykUYGT17P4pUJ7nM= References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <01D78357-3CC6-42D7-B6AB-9B3FE10476FD@nathanseven.com> Message-Id: <7E2537DC-6DEE-4E58-97E0-52B5DC7932CA@gmail.com> From: GfunkiMail To: Nathan Seven In-Reply-To: <01D78357-3CC6-42D7-B6AB-9B3FE10476FD@nathanseven.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5F136) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5F136) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 22:57:06 -0800 Cc: "littleetoile@aol.com" , "andy@saturn5.com" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Wow this list has consumed my email.............. fuck it ill just keep it until I have unrelated causes or furniture to sell On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Nathan Seven wrote: > How did I know this? I have existed from the morning of the world > and I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. Although > I have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am no man > and therefore I am a God. > > And to answer your second query- "Pretty girls don't dance we... > pose to Techno". > > -N7 > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:07 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it pitched up a >> little more though.) >> >> How did you figure it out? >> >> -Alida >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Nathan Seven >> To: littleetoile@aol.com >> Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? >> >> (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? >> ? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? >> ? >> >> -N7? >> ? >> >> On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down >>> > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? >>> > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, >>> ANDY.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Here are some more lyrics:? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > >>> morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now >>> > what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if >>> you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a >>> bottle, one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on >>> a groove. You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you >>> want to. You can > dance if you want to."? >> >>> ? >> >>> *music*? >> >>> ? >> >>> "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a >>> > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all >>> eyes > on- all eyes on-"? >> >>> ? >> >>> It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get >>> the > idea.? >> >>> ? >> >>> Thaaaanks.? >> >>> ? >> >>> -Alida? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> -----Original Message-----? >> >>> ? >> >>> From: littleetoile@aol.com? >> >>> ? >> >>> To: andy@saturn5.com? >> >>> ? >> >>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >> >>> ? >> >>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? >> >>> ? >> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> I fucking hate you, Andy.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > >>> oxygen tank to? >> >>> ? >> >>> Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> -----Original Message-----? >> >>> ? >> >>> From: AndyW ? >> >>> ? >> >>> To: littleetoile@aol.com? >> >>> ? >> >>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >> >>> ? >> >>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? >> >>> ? >> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e->? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e->? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but >>> give > me a little? >> >>> ? >> >>> more credit than that.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how? >> >>> ? >> >>> Fidget/Electro it is?:? >> >>> ? >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!).? >> >>> ? >> >>> andyw? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> ? >> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150333-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 13:36:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83666 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 13:36:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83628 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 13:36:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236173805; bh=M4wPSl9ZzuXMisMR2+2gFe1OoQ+w2ZabCgV50+OcmAI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=plXeMmqGnSLIHL0ZmS7AyNtvHPW+w5QinSr2B3k4Mgb825i3m/+2HdECzWKQKsQ+RT5Jiv783r8tlkP4wg9dgU5jegYvMMlQ/6amrOWrLwARz7IfoQ8UnLDMGDxzJpcWCtiILrvAxrvFhmkGiUdy1WdRH9Zbg/1CDXr/ffMmtas= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K1pOyeQ6OcrLeel6C0FRoM5W0PkSm6Acyg7CJUN1ADcRftmtfWWC6tj4htcDI1D9gLKfFXa4oXzGhuuBDjjzr8BMGPVBdykzUrUWiutZYUf/A842o98yFOguWLBTCNVC875KTZlYtq/LySLJQWBU2O8BVtZ4D/wQkfBokcGkVvM=; Message-ID: <187583.51212.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zODbCE8VM1kOkT5ZRxjGjX5_vz4RGII.QK_0NR6aQJOSQINrT6EwWoThHl2OZ22VBvNsibQFbbVQiMee4HUy8hbImGWc3WMau8.UOFfTWKPAuO53Js5T2bbcvjf3wmZVJ0Lz9_PW7SeIaeCTJR_2lui43TeqqD06z6RtyVamTUHNHcdKdcAGZcycSvI6Bglq1uQUo9ojBAQTekgO.1mrii2bVDVh X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <8CB6A79C30B68F6-4E8-10C0@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A7DA51F8192-4E8-124A@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <789993.18532.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <8CB6A901F47005F-1634-99B@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:36:45 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-503568226-1236173805=:51212" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House --0-503568226-1236173805=:51212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii he he :P ________________________________ From: "littleetoile@aol.com" To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; andy@saturn5.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 7:26:20 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House OH, HAI. THANKS GUYZ. God, this list is so fucking useless. Why I'm still on here after ten years is beyond me. You all suck. -Alida, continuing this useless thread -----Original Message----- From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: AndyW ; littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 6:40 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House I this thread... But Andy that links no good, I thin kyou meant this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: AndyW To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 5:43:58 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: -&e-> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. -&e-> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give me a little more credit than that. Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how Fidget/Electro it is?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org ________________________________ A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! --0-503568226-1236173805=:51212-- From sfraves-return-150334-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 13:40:19 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87217 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 13:40:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87201 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 13:40:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236174037; bh=qRJllphnyk0BNCyVBwHBiVj729S4PpYFRXrJ/ihBkuI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Er9ERtC8P7U/D0W8CfhxU6GhtYcHE4tswquNPhnIMRHtzo4qrHOsxgujndlGyuUr3ScDd3liV2IgUqvQfYLRJudf1D9y00j47TY/sOpLN/sNgVgmvN0+K9A/ZO258UTMKyWjyiMGxhT97fSdXkFmQEWp4r5uqzweRALmmsXXtuM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EbvvT5yp+ejlGc7ulOVkP89l85FAEVLLgeSe2ej5z7h+hDu2AS6EYD/fogR49lM36D5BOebV1b1mu6NN9a6KzmxrWJvPxxtKxAAL0D7rzXUkOhfbX8KWrHE+Cv0jZerVt1ivZhxvKK3BIIcBrhYa6/VbcMuExqEpX3DA/1XUJvI=; Message-ID: <821342.37407.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Eae25QUVM1md2Kc0SVDI1YdRFx_arR9_v9AR_cyuZ69Om0Dk9dhCRX79L27EBhbebxXwvRt7nFzEfGAYj6k4Ds3vOwplFycvP9doqcFAa9csvbBgEjokSzxK_meob2EyCHO4.gN1bCMYOkrKdfU12ehKBapdPvk_EMlGSKFrNXqS7tffFSyPKsCGrq.CvIhsEUVbM41TxOub9dKyq3U- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:40:37 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Nathan Seven , littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House That does sound somewhat safety dance-esque BTW... Get out your orange vest. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Nathan Seven To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 9:03:32 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > > I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, ANDY. > > > > Here are some more lyrics: > > > > "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now > what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a bottle, one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on a groove. You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you want to. You can > dance if you want to." > > *music* > > "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all eyes > on- all eyes on-" > > It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get the > idea. > > Thaaaanks. > > -Alida > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: littleetoile@aol.com > > To: andy@saturn5.com > > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I fucking hate you, Andy. > > > > (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > oxygen tank to > > Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.) > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: AndyW > > To: littleetoile@aol.com > > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > > -&e-> > > -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT. > > -&e-> > > -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but give > me a little > > more credit than that. > > > > Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation. > > > > Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how > > Fidget/Electro it is?: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI > > > > Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!). > > andyw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150335-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 13:40:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87751 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 13:40:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87735 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 13:40:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236174053; bh=WT1MPvuQaG9pFMI6/VOt/k6PtXSqZpFD/OzzgEIvIsY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=llUjQqAn1LgYeE7QicOMPXRBkA3jzsn3AL+CaA6J7+T5hv89ibYd178wYBxB3CglNQ/bSy7p2f4xURpU/ZsWfHzL28lyew2A0Ys8W+t0xgayV6orXJkl4hDJos8eWZMFRsWkyIS89+hzyGxFKw9derQJO7RxVxm1/i4n51sz+Nk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e0pZPfztMDnadX/rEd6yhVHF8VXaT8iwa5mXenHqiIkWCcHoMVL9V7eQ5Jm4YTcaKysCMGOPYBiFtSraqppr99ez79f5wLti4+eXkrSRgCNHQ7ODJYDcUoGjt0/CnsKKiqQD9wFho8LawLMJOlQVoJgoY0kTfadX6ToGFPM7WWc=; Message-ID: <978293.30297.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: J_42MgsVM1lsiC6iL0MTf2Zkd0vjWf3XWqxjP2IwKQW6GKW4xhGU0s0fl3yaQGmsljQ2e7hK5BAPtEjvmfcp7pm3tadgKKwiZlf3B67l8QyuZyIT7PTiLQH.9zCpEytrnS41G1r9ZCpegLfVFJPomY96KcgA.F8nLKfnUcBo76VznY1b.pnprGt.bnbVelIBXO2RGgtPVlMQzVYn_6I- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <8CB6A823B7D42F6-4E8-13FA@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> <8CB6A9B2472A72B-1634-CA4@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <509901C1-54CC-4E53-BCCE-8E25F2C6C979@nathanseven.com> <8CB6A9E4216DBD7-1634-D62@FWM-D39.sysops.aol.com> <01D78357-3CC6-42D7-B6AB-9B3FE10476FD@nathanseven.com> <7E2537DC-6DEE-4E58-97E0-52B5DC7932CA@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 05:40:53 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: GfunkiMail , Nathan Seven Cc: "littleetoile@aol.com" , "andy@saturn5.com" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House That's how we roll. ----- Original Message ---- From: GfunkiMail To: Nathan Seven Cc: "littleetoile@aol.com" ; "andy@saturn5.com" ; "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:57:06 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Wow this list has consumed my email.............. fuck it ill just keep it until I have unrelated causes or furniture to sell On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:21 PM, Nathan Seven wrote: > How did I know this? I have existed from the morning of the world > and I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. Although > I have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am no man > and therefore I am a God. > > And to answer your second query- "Pretty girls don't dance we... > pose to Techno". > > -N7 > > On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:07 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > >> >> Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it pitched up a >> little more though.) >> >> How did you figure it out? >> >> -Alida >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Nathan Seven >> To: littleetoile@aol.com >> Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? >> >> (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? >> ? >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? >> ? >> >> -N7? >> ? >> >> On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it and tracked down >>> > the podcast online: http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? >>> > The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, >>> ANDY.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Here are some more lyrics:? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> "I woke up this morning, I woke up this morning, I woke up this > >>> morning with a splitting, banging headache. What should I do? Now >>> > what should I do? You can dance if you want to. You can dance if >>> you > want to." *something something Techno* "One hand on a >>> bottle, one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, one hand on >>> a groove. You > can dance if you want to. You can dance if you >>> want to. You can > dance if you want to."? >> >>> ? >> >>> *music*? >> >>> ? >> >>> "I find myself in the middle of a dance floor, in the middle of a >>> > dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, all eyes on- all >>> eyes > on- all eyes on-"? >> >>> ? >> >>> It basically loops parts of the sample again after that. You get >>> the > idea.? >> >>> ? >> >>> Thaaaanks.? >> >>> ? >> >>> -Alida? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> -----Original Message-----? >> >>> ? >> >>> From: littleetoile@aol.com? >> >>> ? >> >>> To: andy@saturn5.com? >> >>> ? >> >>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >> >>> ? >> >>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? >> >>> ? >> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> I fucking hate you, Andy.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> (And I was only getting you back for not coming with your sexy > >>> oxygen tank to? >> >>> ? >> >>> Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> -----Original Message-----? >> >>> ? >> >>> From: AndyW ? >> >>> ? >> >>> To: littleetoile@aol.com? >> >>> ? >> >>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >> >>> ? >> >>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? >> >>> ? >> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro House? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e->? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e->? >> >>> ? >> >>> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable taste at times, but >>> give > me a little? >> >>> ? >> >>> more credit than that.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to relate to your generation.? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but not sure how? >> >>> ? >> >>> Fidget/Electro it is?:? >> >>> ? >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday (they were good!).? >> >>> ? >> >>> andyw? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> >>> ? >> ? >> >> >> >> >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150336-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 15:25:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67074 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 15:25:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67053 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 15:25:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236180340; bh=BDbkxZcDiQI+oVfeEdgAo77CX6trynZ+qMaE4wVV4o4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P9gPW2pnl4h3ttsPPp/zKcCFfsWP5nxkzNoON3034MgupGbsXK+sjiBEfsxXOFgif1BGdtHLZ0tBFA67iHBG+Zc5UZvmV0i8SUb29Iwx59BQb+tDHQ1ISfunXititVL20MF1Jg605e3v3sSIr6ii5daxjRZ6KQbVkDa3JiLQtMk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=omzhc0ZOlK6/oNL4S//BbS0YKrRmFNq/YPopKgLrJbn0V2qnqA1DACRzmG6r+pGJMi0ZHq3Gq2O+ux+bzpVQpIFHRGwWUHOkl4lI3gEl9XASUe7VVev5jFApT25p2ssK7HxBcxVzcfV8L2W0k9hqujFXGfuRtbhSPwOPFfWjrc8=; Message-ID: <277007.67281.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M4wsvkEVM1kecAmKU.doP1A8c_.5UQHlgCeLswfcx79t.Y6Pfpm1x8bBA9ipiKV_xOcA6at4inTHBXzgecb2vTJpbuFQbyMbSdldpYb1CPcOZTAq4tkLZTs.zI3pBLn_iIhUA3K_g.ClOMOloi5TcXSHBgLQf3qGB9FvovQFHDLKz.1vV0AtenVMC0l96rOS X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 07:25:40 -0800 (PST) From: fable Reply-To: fable_four@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com In-Reply-To: <8CB6A7D5FE0DB9E-4E8-1233@WEBMAIL-DF02.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Wow, thanks Alida...this is gonna keep me busy for hours! *moves e-mail to personal folder* fable.... --- On Tue, 3/3/09, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > From: littleetoile@aol.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:12 PM > Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my punk rock > friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote out a list. > He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. Frankie > Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. It's > certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I forgot some > maaajor players (already had to add a few since I first > messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, for a start: > > Always good to browse here: > > http://undergroundhouse.net/ > > On > that first page is a set by Troydon that is awesome, > recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple years ago. > I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of the > sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid aside from > that. You can also go > directly to here and search by artist if you sort by artist > name: > http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes > > There > are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll start you > off with some of > the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also pretty much > all new stuff on UGH, but... > > As posted recently, you can also check out old SF House > sets here: http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html > > And more from all over the U.S. here: > http://www.ezeskankin.com/ > > I haven't listened to most of the sets on those two > mixtape sites, but classic artists I might suggest: > > -DJ Dan > -Doc Martin > -Donal Glaude > -Dutch > -Galen > -Garth > -Halo > -Hipp-E > -Jeno > -John Howard > -Josh Wink > -Mark Farina > -Markie > -Marques Wyatt > -Onionz > -Rick Preston > -Roy Davis Jr > -DJ Sneak > -DJ Spun > -Terry Mullan > -Tony > -Diz > -Sound Republic > -DJ Heather > -Greenskeepers > -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different aliases) > -Paul Johnson > -Derrick Carter > -Justin Long > -Miss Honey Dijon > > > -Joshua (Iz) > -Jt Donaldson > -Raoul Belmans > -Jason Hodges > -Joey Youngman > > > (***This below was specific to what he was looking for, so > I don't know how applicable it is to you, but...***): > > You also might want to check out some of Terrence > Parker's stuff: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 > http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on the > Terrence Parker track I have under my music section > > Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav faaaaav > producers): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek > > And here is one of my all time classic favs: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related > > And another: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo > > That's all on the more traditional, lighter side of > things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house stuff is > also really big right now in SF. Click here and listen to > the "bump bump" track for an example: > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 > > Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest released > set (third down) from New Year's Day Stompy+Sunset party > (though of the "dirty" shit, he's still on the > lighter, more melodic side of things, which I love). That > will give you a good overview of what's popping right > now: > http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php > > > For most of the sets you listen to you can go on UGH and > then search in the Track ID section to find the name of the > record you like. Or if no one's put it up, you can post > and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to ID this > record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] mix, at > [time in mix when track comes in]."). People are > generally pretty helpful. > > > *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the trick > is to pay attention to the records you like, grab the name > of the label, then > search more of that label's stuff. You'll probably > start to notice > trends in artists and labels that you like best. I'm > not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the most > knowledgeable when it comes to digging for records, but that > should give you a start. Good luck! :) > > > Lumph, > Alida > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fable > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood lately...I > thought I give this a > shot. > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good house > music from the bad? > I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what kind > of house music? I like > it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of your > favorite tracks/artists? > > Thanks. > > fable.... > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150337-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 16:03:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93792 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 16:03:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93774 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 16:03:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236182655; bh=LU3D5cCnnJ1n0H0zt6OOWNWSZQ6Go9ED6gBK6TqvH4o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0MvlAp4rlx3POTIcp6rkfdmcsv8IqUy5HOc4Xa6TVOJrqRLxZaapqrq15rYK7+jXX4kdfiNyx/UW7fvo5teOeO9xrO7lqQhBr9VHfKpZH7/4IkKp65NvnOcdE+buzSlGMwNBsn1XGja3bYY8yND95ow/WBrtHIzZaUHoCsOSsZg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AB2BJ4iphADOtA6jHw+WjGTCzXb5bv7yGAxYmqbWVxECtgvchYiO/tZyBq3omyyzOvdnlEd8Xk/ljkXMCUyekdSxM6ChEjJV0wEiDlNAwXFbqSmSslyex4/a7BU7stMHPvJSCc+M1lw6VAwKBekmK0LU7dfZR1PnvrRCSdWV884=; Message-ID: <158132.25660.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9hs3akAVM1lgDimntxuEfF6INQ2mRx2v9RunlpH_trHGL1.yQJDSAcsqpSQisJ.kioPvnsVvTsYlJz87FloLirUJ0d0tUrI2tvO3lNabKCYwTFG0nDY.Mu91SQXSJdkfH52IGJGzdzldy5pi.52gHaWg_7hHITA3CjvlcccxrqkAYjKDqtnTTpPVbfpHtt3eg_K.sPmfXkUH5.Rghv4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <277007.67281.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:04:14 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Weren't you originally looking for house labels? For some of the old school SF flavor, check out some of the old Tweekin' and Panhandle Records releases if you can find them anywhere. I have a bunch on vinyl... Also check out Ovum, Dust Traxx, Blockhead, Imperial Dub, older Om records, ... I could go on and on, but I have to run. BTW, speaking of Imperial Dub, Sunshine Jones (formerly of Dubtribe) is doing some new stuff with a more tech edge that I like a lot. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: fable To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:25:40 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Wow, thanks Alida...this is gonna keep me busy for hours! *moves e-mail to personal folder* fable.... --- On Tue, 3/3/09, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: > From: littleetoile@aol.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:12 PM > Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my punk rock > friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote out a list. > He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. Frankie > Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. It's > certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I forgot some > maaajor players (already had to add a few since I first > messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, for a start: > > Always good to browse here: > > http://undergroundhouse.net/ > > On > that first page is a set by Troydon that is awesome, > recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple years ago. > I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of the > sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid aside from > that. You can also go > directly to here and search by artist if you sort by artist > name: > http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes > > There > are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll start you > off with some of > the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also pretty much > all new stuff on UGH, but... > > As posted recently, you can also check out old SF House > sets here: http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html > > And more from all over the U.S. here: > http://www.ezeskankin.com/ > > I haven't listened to most of the sets on those two > mixtape sites, but classic artists I might suggest: > > -DJ Dan > -Doc Martin > -Donal Glaude > -Dutch > -Galen > -Garth > -Halo > -Hipp-E > -Jeno > -John Howard > -Josh Wink > -Mark Farina > -Markie > -Marques Wyatt > -Onionz > -Rick Preston > -Roy Davis Jr > -DJ Sneak > -DJ Spun > -Terry Mullan > -Tony > -Diz > -Sound Republic > -DJ Heather > -Greenskeepers > -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different aliases) > -Paul Johnson > -Derrick Carter > -Justin Long > -Miss Honey Dijon > > > -Joshua (Iz) > -Jt Donaldson > -Raoul Belmans > -Jason Hodges > -Joey Youngman > > > (***This below was specific to what he was looking for, so > I don't know how applicable it is to you, but...***): > > You also might want to check out some of Terrence > Parker's stuff: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 > http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on the > Terrence Parker track I have under my music section > > Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav faaaaav > producers): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek > > And here is one of my all time classic favs: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related > > And another: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo > > That's all on the more traditional, lighter side of > things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house stuff is > also really big right now in SF. Click here and listen to > the "bump bump" track for an example: > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 > > Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest released > set (third down) from New Year's Day Stompy+Sunset party > (though of the "dirty" shit, he's still on the > lighter, more melodic side of things, which I love). That > will give you a good overview of what's popping right > now: > http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php > > > For most of the sets you listen to you can go on UGH and > then search in the Track ID section to find the name of the > record you like. Or if no one's put it up, you can post > and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to ID this > record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] mix, at > [time in mix when track comes in]."). People are > generally pretty helpful. > > > *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the trick > is to pay attention to the records you like, grab the name > of the label, then > search more of that label's stuff. You'll probably > start to notice > trends in artists and labels that you like best. I'm > not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the most > knowledgeable when it comes to digging for records, but that > should give you a start. Good luck! :) > > > Lumph, > Alida > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: fable > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood lately...I > thought I give this a > shot. > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good house > music from the bad? > I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what kind > of house music? I like > it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of your > favorite tracks/artists? > > Thanks. > > fable.... > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150338-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 16:13:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1920 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 16:13:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1886 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 16:13:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236183257; bh=lS7BATHn6G69VU+PDBC3N+dO5xQYfSv6mXkKU+r/3EA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FIcc0cN9nHNhtmLFu8UYgE8vpMCerhDhIDU+qH2Q9zrkotW3BAMWgsufqn5n+cIeV/GT1CIIYM+jJtmIxXMOuFwsgAmI6pCgj41s8+bYhdwPU/e3R4egQLv+3AAd/fcSDnr9Xb5Fm1NkmfYgfkRL53kjtfXugSvP4lPAnwjFlQo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JCkMGgfn8vi+SEGRtoavo2r3phS62eviX+tRzY3CFFSBWB2hNHoc9daVXVoBL5FeEKsyP1mZYJLd5FZSQrhvI97rPR1jAr9L3ozDbJBkadDFKpmzmghm7XQIOcwQjHqEbmWcIDJMHpAr2AxHGZn3IF1FbyBqBEtDUSdXm6hnZwo=; Message-ID: <214834.4132.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2W.o6l8VM1nl.J7F_FzncWMsLaHRL1X8O6DmRA2bBQ_uzd5sfd94jkatZ2EWD.a8c1Rd.58w3HzRYZ8Qev3CXrsz5LU.LvX2bDHixnJg3S7z1w42VWEaYvltPNTssOAjOTELvDMNYF78zCts_6y1iJFaaOqOkOS3L319tAswlYRzasSKknoafA5v5rxwX9pM3WKPKrlE0lsgLMNDHNnmueEYQADLHLKJO6Hr X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:14:17 -0800 (PST) From: fable Reply-To: fable_four@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com, dangrsmind@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <158132.25660.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? I'm looking for anything that can aid me in my search for good house music. It's been frusterating when browsing through tracks to buy online. It becomes tedious when I spend 30 minutes listening to songs and not hearing ONE good one. Thanks for the suggestions. fable.... --- On Wed, 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 8:04 AM > Weren't you originally looking for house labels? > > For some of the old school SF flavor, check out some of the > old Tweekin' and Panhandle Records releases if you can > find them anywhere. I have a bunch on vinyl... > > Also check out Ovum, Dust Traxx, Blockhead, Imperial Dub, > older Om records, ... I could go on and on, but I have to > run. > > BTW, speaking of Imperial Dub, Sunshine Jones (formerly of > Dubtribe) is doing some new stuff with a more tech edge that > I like a lot. > > > Peter > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: fable > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:25:40 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > Wow, thanks Alida...this is gonna keep me busy for hours! > > *moves e-mail to personal folder* > > fable.... > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, littleetoile@aol.com > wrote: > > > From: littleetoile@aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:12 PM > > Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my punk > rock > > friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote out a > list. > > He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. Frankie > > Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. > It's > > certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I forgot > some > > maaajor players (already had to add a few since I > first > > messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, for a > start: > > > > Always good to browse here: > > > > http://undergroundhouse.net/ > > > > On > > that first page is a set by Troydon that is awesome, > > recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple years > ago. > > I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of the > > sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid > aside from > > that. You can also go > > directly to here and search by artist if you sort by > artist > > name: > > > http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes > > > > There > > are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll start > you > > off with some of > > the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also pretty > much > > all new stuff on UGH, but... > > > > As posted recently, you can also check out old SF > House > > sets here: http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html > > > > And more from all over the U.S. here: > > http://www.ezeskankin.com/ > > > > I haven't listened to most of the sets on those > two > > mixtape sites, but classic artists I might suggest: > > > > -DJ Dan > > -Doc Martin > > -Donal Glaude > > -Dutch > > -Galen > > -Garth > > -Halo > > -Hipp-E > > -Jeno > > -John Howard > > -Josh Wink > > -Mark Farina > > -Markie > > -Marques Wyatt > > -Onionz > > -Rick Preston > > -Roy Davis Jr > > -DJ Sneak > > -DJ Spun > > -Terry Mullan > > -Tony > > -Diz > > -Sound Republic > > -DJ Heather > > -Greenskeepers > > -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different aliases) > > -Paul Johnson > > -Derrick Carter > > -Justin Long > > -Miss Honey Dijon > > > > > > -Joshua (Iz) > > -Jt Donaldson > > -Raoul Belmans > > -Jason Hodges > > -Joey Youngman > > > > > > (***This below was specific to what he was looking > for, so > > I don't know how applicable it is to you, > but...***): > > > > You also might want to check out some of Terrence > > Parker's stuff: > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 > > http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on the > > Terrence Parker track I have under my music section > > > > Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav faaaaav > > producers): > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek > > > > And here is one of my all time classic favs: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related > > > > And another: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo > > > > That's all on the more traditional, lighter side > of > > things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house stuff > is > > also really big right now in SF. Click here and listen > to > > the "bump bump" track for an example: > > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 > > > > Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest > released > > set (third down) from New Year's Day Stompy+Sunset > party > > (though of the "dirty" shit, he's still > on the > > lighter, more melodic side of things, which I love). > That > > will give you a good overview of what's popping > right > > now: > > http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php > > > > > > For most of the sets you listen to you can go on UGH > and > > then search in the Track ID section to find the name > of the > > record you like. Or if no one's put it up, you can > post > > and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to ID > this > > record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] mix, > at > > [time in mix when track comes in]."). People are > > generally pretty helpful. > > > > > > *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the trick > > is to pay attention to the records you like, grab the > name > > of the label, then > > search more of that label's stuff. You'll > probably > > start to notice > > trends in artists and labels that you like best. > I'm > > not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the most > > knowledgeable when it comes to digging for records, > but that > > should give you a start. Good luck! :) > > > > > > Lumph, > > Alida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fable > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm > > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood > lately...I > > thought I give this a > > shot. > > > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good > house > > music from the bad? > > I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what > kind > > of house music? I like > > it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of > your > > favorite tracks/artists? > > > > Thanks. > > > > fable.... > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150339-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 16:40:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23811 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 16:40:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23792 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 16:40:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=YFX6cCd4GBnC4t1pn4lz7BtBLQwZHnyKeScT8nl9yxw=; b=IBeqrOuREpNNjE1Vq1JYzX9yjsIK4EEgzBaEmTwBUSESZcRdw8ZxT2g3q0YlyJ0Yy6 EblgPEyOnaKcNbDhONKCc8nhTUbWvYz+LaV2YwDfw5Yb4wWFaNqNWn4Ua4t7VL+vo+7w EluHGpqtw92MmDS997fnRDOc35Yc5yeP5kzqA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=jMYAt1+R4Q0zkGMZpsYR9YUa0q9hMB7ytFqxOafhM3A9RPGQN1otqh0VjNhotmnDdn G/KiMlcqWqEUWrz9jTvp+vaLgRFT1xS6G+oRZ7OK8LoWhnFdRVz+0uuY9JINFrg8GcMj mf3bIiNrHTF/aaD0ywFjU0iRPHGPAu144NstI= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: AndyW , SFR Raves Message-Id: <26C28F06-B208-49D8-A7F8-D9F58845BF08@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: michael the redstickman , littleetoile@aol.com In-Reply-To: <815623.37927.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 08:40:28 -0800 References: <815623.37927.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House Nah- just Google-fu- Also- listening on a different system I think the lyrics are actually "they just... pose to Techno"- Uh- I hope you washed that snorkle after that last joosing party? -N7 On Mar 3, 2009, at 10:31 PM, michael the redstickman wrote: > > dork. you used "shazam" on your iphone. > > ps: you're a loser for not riding with us on thursday! i'm > bringing a snorkel... > > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Nathan Seven wrote: > >> From: Nathan Seven >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget /Electro House >> To: littleetoile@aol.com >> Cc: andy@saturn5.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 9:21 PM >> How did I know this? I have existed from the morning of the >> world and >> I shall exist until the last star falls from the night. >> Although I >> have taken the form of Gaius Caligula, I am all men as I am >> no man and >> therefore I am a God. >> >> And to answer your second query- "Pretty girls >> don't dance we... pose >> to Techno". >> >> -N7 >> >> On Mar 3, 2009, at 9:07 PM, littleetoile@aol.com wrote: >> >>> >>> Awesome. Thanks! Mystery solved. (I think I like it >> pitched up a >>> little more though.) >>> >>> How did you figure it out? >>> >>> -Alida >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Nathan Seven >>> To: littleetoile@aol.com >>> Cc: andy@saturn5.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 9:03 pm >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] UPDATE: Track ID: Fidget >> /Electro House >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Felix Da Housecat - Pretty Girls Don't Dance? >>> >>> (but I seem to recall you dancing- curious...)? >>> ? >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5dywoQjmkQ? >>> ? >>> >>> -N7? >>> ? >>> >>> On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:45 PM, littleetoile@aol.com >> wrote:? >>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> I found the CD someone gave me with the mix on it >> and tracked down >>>>> the podcast online: >> http://podcast.freshkidfx.com/2008/12/03/welcome.aspx? >>>>> The track fully comes in at ~21:00. CLEARLY >> NOT BRITNEY SPEARS, >>>> ANDY.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Here are some more lyrics:? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> "I woke up this morning, I woke up this >> morning, I woke up this > >>>> morning with a splitting, banging headache. What >> should I do? Now > >>>> what should I do? You can dance if you want to. >> You can dance if >>>> you > want to." *something something >> Techno* "One hand on a bottle, >>>> one > hand on a groove. One hand on a bottle, >> one hand on a groove. >>>> You > can dance if you want to. You can dance >> if you want to. You >>>> can > dance if you want to."? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> *music*? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> "I find myself in the middle of a dance >> floor, in the middle of a >>>>> dance floor, all eyes on me, all eyes on me, >> all eyes on- all >>>> eyes > on- all eyes on-"? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> It basically loops parts of the sample again after >> that. You get >>>> the > idea.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Thaaaanks.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -Alida? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> From: littleetoile@aol.com? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> To: andy@saturn5.com? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:46 pm? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro >> House? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> I fucking hate you, Andy.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> (And I was only getting you back for not coming >> with your sexy > >>>> oxygen tank to? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Stompy/Sunset. Booyah.)? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -----Original Message-----? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> From: AndyW ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> To: littleetoile@aol.com? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 5:43 pm? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Track ID: Fidget /Electro >> House? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 littleetoile@aol.com wrote:? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -&e->? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -&e-> OH MY GOD. ANDY. NO. IT. IS. NOT.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -&e->? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> -&e->Jesus Christ. I may have questionable >> taste at times, but give >>>>> me a little? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> more credit than that.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Don't get all indignant, I'm trying to >> relate to your generation.? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Here, is this it, it's not a Britney rmx, but >> not sure how? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Fidget/Electro it is?:? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> Oh, and I missed you at Cole's thingy saturday >> (they were good!).? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> andyw? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> >>>> ? >>> ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150340-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 18:45:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37380 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 18:45:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37360 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 18:45:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236192327; bh=ib7wxleIQWw7ESr1t7njUQuDpG3QK5ee1Y5u67XHjEQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3NpgoPMceRQBVOSvSDsAR0VGF2AeEKCPko+vVDw/4BRkOu7PeQ3e8X7dm+42N3DUtNS2xGDkD0sbPDIWfaHSYoHyqyLIebxmBP/e65GQRxv7ucXMGk9jm6qjt6mZt5fFMmDe6BFLlpn14AgywQXwEKin7GlFW8VksubdCYjO73c= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1Lql9usaxwd00mXMtawrhI/yMHuFMstzC9zbZNtb5JCvjFnMV9eEGAEeN9vCSkIqNCmCNdPO2qRcPxCLFPvsKIHIzqbcq/ff6w78TD6/jULgaBcetOsLWFlwDCwgj56Z7OIlyAAhCC/zlPvFJHOM4LqsTQfnxgGOS2TRgL868b8=; Message-ID: <217859.84862.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Tko_7Q0VM1mTjk7R6OxSKE.lp9cBGd5TfQpzpYomoCQWYj_vEyrNWRlfjGZs2jFdz4OD0a2rL227bieIbmnXgFIMK5EVwq9W2B1xZruADYMS3Lra8n0hfU244qjHv_.iNduJEV9z50ei9RRig0BwlJMJuTNobfQfsU7CTJEROfUjEj0thykWGVai19GwTQpi5SYqgJFWdaPd0pRM_8k- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1156.82 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <214834.4132.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:45:27 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Post stuff you like...that will make it a lot easier to point you to more... Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: fable To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com; dangrsmind@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:14:17 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? I'm looking for anything that can aid me in my search for good house music. It's been frusterating when browsing through tracks to buy online. It becomes tedious when I spend 30 minutes listening to songs and not hearing ONE good one. Thanks for the suggestions. fable.... --- On Wed, 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 8:04 AM > Weren't you originally looking for house labels? > > For some of the old school SF flavor, check out some of the > old Tweekin' and Panhandle Records releases if you can > find them anywhere. I have a bunch on vinyl... > > Also check out Ovum, Dust Traxx, Blockhead, Imperial Dub, > older Om records, ... I could go on and on, but I have to > run. > > BTW, speaking of Imperial Dub, Sunshine Jones (formerly of > Dubtribe) is doing some new stuff with a more tech edge that > I like a lot. > > > Peter > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: fable > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:25:40 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > Wow, thanks Alida...this is gonna keep me busy for hours! > > *moves e-mail to personal folder* > > fable.... > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, littleetoile@aol.com > wrote: > > > From: littleetoile@aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:12 PM > > Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my punk > rock > > friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote out a > list. > > He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. Frankie > > Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. > It's > > certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I forgot > some > > maaajor players (already had to add a few since I > first > > messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, for a > start: > > > > Always good to browse here: > > > > http://undergroundhouse.net/ > > > > On > > that first page is a set by Troydon that is awesome, > > recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple years > ago. > > I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of the > > sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid > aside from > > that. You can also go > > directly to here and search by artist if you sort by > artist > > name: > > > http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes > > > > There > > are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll start > you > > off with some of > > the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also pretty > much > > all new stuff on UGH, but... > > > > As posted recently, you can also check out old SF > House > > sets here: http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html > > > > And more from all over the U.S. here: > > http://www.ezeskankin.com/ > > > > I haven't listened to most of the sets on those > two > > mixtape sites, but classic artists I might suggest: > > > > -DJ Dan > > -Doc Martin > > -Donal Glaude > > -Dutch > > -Galen > > -Garth > > -Halo > > -Hipp-E > > -Jeno > > -John Howard > > -Josh Wink > > -Mark Farina > > -Markie > > -Marques Wyatt > > -Onionz > > -Rick Preston > > -Roy Davis Jr > > -DJ Sneak > > -DJ Spun > > -Terry Mullan > > -Tony > > -Diz > > -Sound Republic > > -DJ Heather > > -Greenskeepers > > -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different aliases) > > -Paul Johnson > > -Derrick Carter > > -Justin Long > > -Miss Honey Dijon > > > > > > -Joshua (Iz) > > -Jt Donaldson > > -Raoul Belmans > > -Jason Hodges > > -Joey Youngman > > > > > > (***This below was specific to what he was looking > for, so > > I don't know how applicable it is to you, > but...***): > > > > You also might want to check out some of Terrence > > Parker's stuff: > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 > > http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on the > > Terrence Parker track I have under my music section > > > > Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav faaaaav > > producers): > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek > > > > And here is one of my all time classic favs: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related > > > > And another: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo > > > > That's all on the more traditional, lighter side > of > > things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house stuff > is > > also really big right now in SF. Click here and listen > to > > the "bump bump" track for an example: > > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 > > > > Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest > released > > set (third down) from New Year's Day Stompy+Sunset > party > > (though of the "dirty" shit, he's still > on the > > lighter, more melodic side of things, which I love). > That > > will give you a good overview of what's popping > right > > now: > > http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php > > > > > > For most of the sets you listen to you can go on UGH > and > > then search in the Track ID section to find the name > of the > > record you like. Or if no one's put it up, you can > post > > and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to ID > this > > record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] mix, > at > > [time in mix when track comes in]."). People are > > generally pretty helpful. > > > > > > *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the trick > > is to pay attention to the records you like, grab the > name > > of the label, then > > search more of that label's stuff. You'll > probably > > start to notice > > trends in artists and labels that you like best. > I'm > > not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the most > > knowledgeable when it comes to digging for records, > but that > > should give you a start. Good luck! :) > > > > > > Lumph, > > Alida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fable > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm > > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood > lately...I > > thought I give this a > > shot. > > > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good > house > > music from the bad? > > I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what > kind > > of house music? I like > > it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of > your > > favorite tracks/artists? > > > > Thanks. > > > > fable.... > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150341-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 18:45:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38117 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 18:45:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38098 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 18:45:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236192362; bh=pTXLo11JLWWh0uBpeQNlVpAsmzuJgQEJn2pfwbD6yOE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4ipJUSSV51zQxIdrLxP5uwYGR/FWkfYqkCiUHFFSFNkMpoObeBDITOMHpZE575h+zQ1RvYlyIliCxAOsJAbMsw/vGZxaLeEF7KcIJvBDRLgg7gt6/uxhQAuuf6xwjji0UkwF9wP/F0kqwJ0smv4OSeE3WRmvt2d5JtBX/kftEmQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WURwzdrQcr8ua0IfGdHYXL/XmRjF+rgrNGXPOdfFAwWQdeGSm08/3TumjghnmwvOUQAIUJ51n/bydBuv+GbSYKXUa7UMQ+2LVcaeLWfgOQqUOfPhDI4ksPWbImYuZTdPpfUaelO4oG6hKqdhgOYWGJBw2N7/GDzk3eDV5ULdOKw=; Message-ID: <837127.70578.qm@web65604.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7Sx0pE8VM1k5KRPY6pjhLPpkmyxAWtwPrj4q0oPI2zbbpHusLjxnO4sJcCAzk9VKjImXYAUmc_jep1_pwyu28bCOZvzsiDRzpK6Sry3R336X87_RXx7ch0zouazjwsMglZ8POQwAvOJwbKVgQousKRux8d3khKRfUcwejPBTpCWSWkWiFqkP_T9Mpe64_C4UB4rrQMXzjDykVbOiKxs- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <214834.4132.qm@web35505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 10:46:02 -0800 (PST) From: George Cochrane To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com, dangrsmind@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Uh, *cough* you could go SFR-core and check out local label Prismatic Tracks: www.prismatictracks.com Run by SF stalwart Andrew Phelan, loads of awesome releases, very high standard of quality. All on Beatport, too. Full disclosure: I have lots of tracks out on the label. ...but yes, check it out. Tons of great stuff. -George ----- Original Message ---- From: fable To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com; dangrsmind@yahoo.com Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:14:17 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? I'm looking for anything that can aid me in my search for good house music. It's been frusterating when browsing through tracks to buy online. It becomes tedious when I spend 30 minutes listening to songs and not hearing ONE good one. Thanks for the suggestions. fable.... --- On Wed, 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 8:04 AM > Weren't you originally looking for house labels? > > For some of the old school SF flavor, check out some of the > old Tweekin' and Panhandle Records releases if you can > find them anywhere. I have a bunch on vinyl... > > Also check out Ovum, Dust Traxx, Blockhead, Imperial Dub, > older Om records, ... I could go on and on, but I have to > run. > > BTW, speaking of Imperial Dub, Sunshine Jones (formerly of > Dubtribe) is doing some new stuff with a more tech edge that > I like a lot. > > > Peter > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: fable > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:25:40 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > Wow, thanks Alida...this is gonna keep me busy for hours! > > *moves e-mail to personal folder* > > fable.... > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, littleetoile@aol.com > wrote: > > > From: littleetoile@aol.com > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:12 PM > > Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my punk > rock > > friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote out a > list. > > He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. Frankie > > Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. > It's > > certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I forgot > some > > maaajor players (already had to add a few since I > first > > messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, for a > start: > > > > Always good to browse here: > > > > http://undergroundhouse.net/ > > > > On > > that first page is a set by Troydon that is awesome, > > recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple years > ago. > > I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of the > > sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid > aside from > > that. You can also go > > directly to here and search by artist if you sort by > artist > > name: > > > http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes > > > > There > > are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll start > you > > off with some of > > the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also pretty > much > > all new stuff on UGH, but... > > > > As posted recently, you can also check out old SF > House > > sets here: http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html > > > > And more from all over the U.S. here: > > http://www.ezeskankin.com/ > > > > I haven't listened to most of the sets on those > two > > mixtape sites, but classic artists I might suggest: > > > > -DJ Dan > > -Doc Martin > > -Donal Glaude > > -Dutch > > -Galen > > -Garth > > -Halo > > -Hipp-E > > -Jeno > > -John Howard > > -Josh Wink > > -Mark Farina > > -Markie > > -Marques Wyatt > > -Onionz > > -Rick Preston > > -Roy Davis Jr > > -DJ Sneak > > -DJ Spun > > -Terry Mullan > > -Tony > > -Diz > > -Sound Republic > > -DJ Heather > > -Greenskeepers > > -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different aliases) > > -Paul Johnson > > -Derrick Carter > > -Justin Long > > -Miss Honey Dijon > > > > > > -Joshua (Iz) > > -Jt Donaldson > > -Raoul Belmans > > -Jason Hodges > > -Joey Youngman > > > > > > (***This below was specific to what he was looking > for, so > > I don't know how applicable it is to you, > but...***): > > > > You also might want to check out some of Terrence > > Parker's stuff: > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 > > http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on the > > Terrence Parker track I have under my music section > > > > Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav faaaaav > > producers): > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek > > > > And here is one of my all time classic favs: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related > > > > And another: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo > > > > That's all on the more traditional, lighter side > of > > things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house stuff > is > > also really big right now in SF. Click here and listen > to > > the "bump bump" track for an example: > > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 > > > > Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest > released > > set (third down) from New Year's Day Stompy+Sunset > party > > (though of the "dirty" shit, he's still > on the > > lighter, more melodic side of things, which I love). > That > > will give you a good overview of what's popping > right > > now: > > http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php > > > > > > For most of the sets you listen to you can go on UGH > and > > then search in the Track ID section to find the name > of the > > record you like. Or if no one's put it up, you can > post > > and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to ID > this > > record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] mix, > at > > [time in mix when track comes in]."). People are > > generally pretty helpful. > > > > > > *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the trick > > is to pay attention to the records you like, grab the > name > > of the label, then > > search more of that label's stuff. You'll > probably > > start to notice > > trends in artists and labels that you like best. > I'm > > not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the most > > knowledgeable when it comes to digging for records, > but that > > should give you a start. Good luck! :) > > > > > > Lumph, > > Alida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: fable > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm > > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood > lately...I > > thought I give this a > > shot. > > > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the good > house > > music from the bad? > > I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is what > kind > > of house music? I like > > it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some of > your > > favorite tracks/artists? > > > > Thanks. > > > > fable.... > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150342-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 20:17:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6867 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 20:17:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6844 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 20:17:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:18:03 -0800 (PST) From: "J.C." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20090304121713.H750@kzsu.stanford.edu> X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1839996994-1236197883=:750" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 171.66.118.47 X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (kzsu.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]); Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:18:09 -0800 (PST) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown --0-1839996994-1236197883=:750 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Got this from another list. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From=20the front page of Discogs.com... hilarious: Latest Music Reviews: DJ Ti=EBsto - somebedroomdj I don't know how I even ended up reading the reviews on this page, but I do know that statements about this freak being the "best dj in the world, etc. etc." can not be allowed to filter into the collective consciousness unchallenged. If that were allowed to happen, everything would fall apart, we would all spontaneously de-evolve, up would become down, cats would have sex with dogs and rational thought as we know it would disappear. And I'll be damned if I'm going to contribute to that happening. So I just have to say for the record that this.. this thing is nothing more than a marketing scheme and any claims of him being the best DJ in the world are patently ludicrous. Music wise, there is nothing new here. Same old re-hashed formulas and a no talent money machine. This is not a baseless accusation either, just check the credits on his productions. When it says "Written/Composed by: XXXX" it means that, hello, somebody else did all the work. Simple music for simple minded people who don't want to have to think too hard. Of course, those of us with a functioning brain already know this. So the real issue becomes this: what can be done about this wooden shoe wearing, tulip growing menace? Simple. I've outlined a few steps you can take to help wage this war: 1) If you hear somebody extolling the virtues of this thing, smack them casually (but firmly) upside the head and continue the conversation as if nothing had happened. Pavlov was onto something and there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to employ this slight variation of his methods. 2) Though the lion's share of commerce these days is done online, there are certainly places where this thing's CD's and records are sold in physical stores. If you ever have occasion to do so at one of these dens of depravity, you should vomit, urinate, defecate or otherwise expel your bodily fluid(s) of choice so as to contaminate every last piece of this thing's merchandise so that the store is unable to sell it. 3) Organize an event showcasing your favorite type of actual music and aggressively advertise that the price of admission will be halved for everyone who brings you one of this thing's CD's, records, t-shirts, shoes, caps, keychains or any other such nonsense that is branded with his name or image. Be very careful to wear rubber gloves when handling the items and throw them all into a gigantic bonfire pit, to be lit at the culmination of the event. If we could all employ this 3 pronged attack, I think we could make some real progress on this. Now, to the fanboi's. I know your face is probably beet red right about now and there's a good chance your body is trembling, but I need you to hear and understand what I'm saying to you. We don't just hate Tiesto. He's a mere puppet who is a symptom of a larger problem and I think that anybody who puts him down probably realizes this. It's just that he has willingly made himself the poster boy for the commercialization of electronic music and, hence, a big fat target. There was a time when people actually attended raves and went to hear music they couldn't hear anywhere else and socialize with other people who were just as sick of normal society's bullsh*t as they were. They didn't go to idolize some idiot who was just properly marketed. It was the music and it moved people. If you support and defend this Asshat, it is a slap in the face to everybody who comes to this for the right reasons. Just look at what has happened to every other subculture that has been co-opted. Hip-hop is a mere shadow of it's former self. Rock and roll was castrated decades ago and is no longer a viable option for conveying a real message. Punk has become Emo and is sold at Hot Topic. Even country music used to have some grit to it, but look at the saccharine sweet bag of sh*t it is now. Your hero is just another cog in the giant money machine that music has been allowed to be reduced to. It's only about money. The fact that he has to hire engineer's to make his productions for him means that he is no different than a boy band that has other people write their songs. If an "artist" isn't making their own art, how can you put any faith in it? How can you listen to something that they themselves do not believe in and not feel like you've been played for a sucker while they laugh at you all the way to the bank? The bottom line is that there is a lot of different music out there and lots of genre lines that we create. But what it all comes down to is that there is music that lies and music that does not lie. Support music that does not lie, please. --=20 San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) --0-1839996994-1236197883=:750 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --0-1839996994-1236197883=:750-- From sfraves-return-150343-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 22:44:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89274 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 22:44:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89250 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 22:44:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236206673; bh=66pYJVVgnA9pWFU+N4vnPqSYb6UkOeFUMIml3BM5yJw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=f6532H0Bpwwa1WJcxSi1Zw1PwTm4+FP9GbYFiFZz/7L7Bu4fPZQkl3RrAVUCd3zU4AwubmS1G2r2krGh6Xm6tmv12TlHLT7HDyCsOcepYTPO4ChKbGrsqworfbMXUdXQm72C5flI8W0hgOT6c/fFBu1zmNx2n61FM3FFJjmyjZk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Z0lOtPPv7UPyj+VMVM15PVEgsLERtRC1aVCi2oYoy3Mbsz7ptnLeoBricM3IbGX/B3EmKisJ+pQRYyqD2P4Zea2uYqa7UFq3ZbjUqlxD8RsHpD5duBcUOpux06R45C+qeOQHBFdFCGElwe2HtkabR1g01Lc7f0844HGrTmemLiA=; Message-ID: <837470.56785.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1YlpwqIVM1nWTb12Fb7pDaC2mrJfxl4inPflnYkgAr_tfc2DuTnei71BbFc84Iwdyv97tXWRoxw4A1SdYDCE.sORm3J9pF4JhM8VDU1YVmN917khwBfJBbTWCVekDZqMPDJu2jgs0TNpPDrtEWB_6V3CwE23AG0MrlKW2bukwArlJb0Wfg7Sc6ER28cafFhnzGT2Ws5i64wwTdr06g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 14:44:33 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "J.C." In-Reply-To: <20090304121713.H750@kzsu.stanford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown who's tiesto? --- On Wed, 3/4/09, J.C. wrote: > From: J.C. > Subject: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:18 PM > Got this from another list. >=20 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >=20 > From the front page of Discogs.com... hilarious: >=20 > Latest Music Reviews: >=20 > DJ Ti=EBsto - somebedroomdj > I don't know how I even ended up reading the reviews on > this page, but > I do know that statements about this freak being the > "best dj in the > world, etc. etc." can not be allowed to filter into > the collective > consciousness unchallenged. If that were allowed to happen, > everything > would fall apart, we would all spontaneously de-evolve, up > would > become down, cats would have sex with dogs and rational > thought as we > know it would disappear. And I'll be damned if I'm > going to contribute > to that happening. >=20 > So I just have to say for the record that this.. this thing > is nothing > more than a marketing scheme and any claims of him being > the best DJ > in the world are patently ludicrous. Music wise, there is > nothing new > here. Same old re-hashed formulas and a no talent money > machine. This > is not a baseless accusation either, just check the credits > on his > productions. When it says "Written/Composed by: > XXXX" it means that, > hello, somebody else did all the work. Simple music for > simple minded > people who don't want to have to think too hard. >=20 > Of course, those of us with a functioning brain already > know this. So > the real issue becomes this: what can be done about this > wooden shoe > wearing, tulip growing menace? >=20 > Simple. I've outlined a few steps you can take to help > wage this war: >=20 > 1) If you hear somebody extolling the virtues of this > thing, smack > them casually (but firmly) upside the head and continue the > conversation as if nothing had happened. Pavlov was onto > something and > there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to > employ this slight > variation of his methods. >=20 > 2) Though the lion's share of commerce these days is > done online, > there are certainly places where this thing's CD's > and records are > sold in physical stores. If you ever have occasion to do so > at one of > these dens of depravity, you should vomit, urinate, > defecate or > otherwise expel your bodily fluid(s) of choice so as to > contaminate > every last piece of this thing's merchandise so that > the store is > unable to sell it. >=20 > 3) Organize an event showcasing your favorite type of > actual music and > aggressively advertise that the price of admission will be > halved for > everyone who brings you one of this thing's CD's, > records, t-shirts, > shoes, caps, keychains or any other such nonsense that is > branded with > his name or image. Be very careful to wear rubber gloves > when handling > the items and throw them all into a gigantic bonfire pit, > to be lit at > the culmination of the event. >=20 > If we could all employ this 3 pronged attack, I think we > could make > some real progress on this. >=20 > Now, to the fanboi's. I know your face is probably beet > red right > about now and there's a good chance your body is > trembling, but I need > you to hear and understand what I'm saying to you. We > don't just hate > Tiesto. He's a mere puppet who is a symptom of a larger > problem and I > think that anybody who puts him down probably realizes > this. It's just > that he has willingly made himself the poster boy for the > commercialization of electronic music and, hence, a big fat > target. > There was a time when people actually attended raves and > went to hear > music they couldn't hear anywhere else and socialize > with other people > who were just as sick of normal society's bullsh*t as > they were. They > didn't go to idolize some idiot who was just properly > marketed. It was > the music and it moved people. If you support and defend > this Asshat, > it is a slap in the face to everybody who comes to this for > the right > reasons. Just look at what has happened to every other > subculture that > has been co-opted. Hip-hop is a mere shadow of it's > former self. Rock > and roll was castrated decades ago and is no longer a > viable option > for conveying a real message. Punk has become Emo and is > sold at Hot > Topic. Even country music used to have some grit to it, but > look at > the saccharine sweet bag of sh*t it is now. >=20 > Your hero is just another cog in the giant money machine > that music > has been allowed to be reduced to. It's only about > money. The fact > that he has to hire engineer's to make his productions > for him means > that he is no different than a boy band that has other > people write > their songs. If an "artist" isn't making > their own art, how can you > put any faith in it? How can you listen to something that > they > themselves do not believe in and not feel like you've > been played for > a sucker while they laugh at you all the way to the bank? >=20 > The bottom line is that there is a lot of different music > out there > and lots of genre lines that we create. But what it all > comes down to > is that there is music that lies and music that does not > lie. Support > music that does not lie, please. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award > Winner: Best Radio DJ: > http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php > AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) >=20 > "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily > represent those of > KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that > effect.) > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A=0A=0A = --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150344-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 23:20:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12674 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 23:20:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12657 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 23:20:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236208821; bh=QzP877cfUdwx7awJ3sGwGfVQebVKkp4FPEYMMBN/3/Y=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Ut9wpexFZeC2t+ezXYp8goxSNiHorJDCp/JowUh16e9odsQiwGko0mNIlkzld8sQ51uTYs5HfBHnAGLWAQgwTdhrftd8/RbCgcbNL1lX3QVSM7ZaZu5DW5rNXPqrSFPuuwwZOa8D+32o77pDU2Ml4lMocaoOeqsXxZ8lhv8raNo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=FQv1JHJxOoHNKfcyRhM7Jdt7lG8QwqKUZWdL0i7PvsFSDFIN58dCvuoC7pu9iWZVgNQ9ZVud3c44Z7GnYuMj6sb6t2Fumvj6pA4ktrEG+cqcddDMikEzQePKH0M6o1aLggnD11PvM8c16jojcT0c4WRUKAFuwupZEQamEyJNlzc=; Message-ID: <344545.69757.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CxJPN.oVM1k3pA2Zp6wdXHP0.q8zrnP5OiylnCr9w7RycqMQu9wUJLtEFh4oZFRZqvRmbuJqe3DFeeXNBmBpqI6T2sqg0Bf.TXSnipCGAtIldLrkKfhYRjmEyJWmV3yBb4qAMtH2mKydbZps_NzMem.Plp5xM7HMJcUQXIxctWa.pnalGNK229BOhkBy_Q0pX1jCwsWBKylqJou4n9r_lDjgL4KN9g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <837470.56785.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:20:21 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <837470.56785.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown I thought Andy Warhol put to rest the notion that artists had to actually p= roduce their art?=A0 And wasn't it Duchamp that finished off the idea that = art could have value outside of the opinions of an elite that profitted fro= m manipulating the defnition of same?=0A=0ADon't like Tiesto?=A0 Don't buy = his music.=0A=0ABut I don't buy into this "he isn't an artist" bullshit.=0A= =0AHe's an artist of making money by being Tiesto at the very least...=0A= =0ABest,=0A=0APeter=0A=0A--- On Wed, 3/4/09, J.C. = wrote:=0A=0A> From: J.C. =0A> Subject: [sfraves] = Tietso smackdown=0A> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0A> Date: Wednesday, March 4= , 2009, 12:18 PM=0A> Got this from another list.=0A> =0A> ---------- Forwar= ded message ----------=0A> =0A> From the front page of Discogs.com... hilar= ious:=0A> =0A> Latest Music Reviews:=0A> =0A> DJ Ti=EBsto - somebedroomdj= =0A> I don't know how I even ended up reading the reviews on=0A> this page,= but=0A> I do know that statements about this freak being the=0A> "best dj = in the=0A> world, etc. etc." can not be allowed to filter into=0A> the coll= ective=0A> consciousness unchallenged. If that were allowed to happen,=0A> = everything=0A> would fall apart, we would all spontaneously de-evolve, up= =0A> would=0A> become down, cats would have sex with dogs and rational=0A> = thought as we=0A> know it would disappear. And I'll be damned if I'm=0A> go= ing to contribute=0A> to that happening.=0A> =0A> So I just have to say for= the record that this.. this thing=0A> is nothing=0A> more than a marketing= scheme and any claims of him being=0A> the best DJ=0A> in the world are pa= tently ludicrous. Music wise, there is=0A> nothing new=0A> here. Same old r= e-hashed formulas and a no talent money=0A> machine. This=0A> is not a base= less accusation either, just check the credits=0A> on his=0A> productions. = When it says "Written/Composed by:=0A> XXXX" it means that,=0A> hello, some= body else did all the work. Simple music for=0A> simple minded=0A> people w= ho don't want to have to think too hard.=0A> =0A> Of course, those of us wi= th a functioning brain already=0A> know this. So=0A> the real issue becomes= this: what can be done about this=0A> wooden shoe=0A> wearing, tulip growi= ng menace?=0A> =0A> Simple. I've outlined a few steps you can take to help= =0A> wage this war:=0A> =0A> 1) If you hear somebody extolling the virtues = of this=0A> thing, smack=0A> them casually (but firmly) upside the head and= continue the=0A> conversation as if nothing had happened. Pavlov was onto= =0A> something and=0A> there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to=0A> e= mploy this slight=0A> variation of his methods.=0A> =0A> 2) Though the lion= 's share of commerce these days is=0A> done online,=0A> there are certainly= places where this thing's CD's=0A> and records are=0A> sold in physical st= ores. If you ever have occasion to do so=0A> at one of=0A> these dens of de= pravity, you should vomit, urinate,=0A> defecate or=0A> otherwise expel you= r bodily fluid(s) of choice so as to=0A> contaminate=0A> every last piece o= f this thing's merchandise so that=0A> the store is=0A> unable to sell it.= =0A> =0A> 3) Organize an event showcasing your favorite type of=0A> actual = music and=0A> aggressively advertise that the price of admission will be=0A= > halved for=0A> everyone who brings you one of this thing's CD's,=0A> reco= rds, t-shirts,=0A> shoes, caps, keychains or any other such nonsense that i= s=0A> branded with=0A> his name or image. Be very careful to wear rubber gl= oves=0A> when handling=0A> the items and throw them all into a gigantic bon= fire pit,=0A> to be lit at=0A> the culmination of the event.=0A> =0A> If we= could all employ this 3 pronged attack, I think we=0A> could make=0A> some= real progress on this.=0A> =0A> Now, to the fanboi's. I know your face is = probably beet=0A> red right=0A> about now and there's a good chance your bo= dy is=0A> trembling, but I need=0A> you to hear and understand what I'm say= ing to you. We=0A> don't just hate=0A> Tiesto. He's a mere puppet who is a = symptom of a larger=0A> problem and I=0A> think that anybody who puts him d= own probably realizes=0A> this. It's just=0A> that he has willingly made hi= mself the poster boy for the=0A> commercialization of electronic music and,= hence, a big fat=0A> target.=0A> There was a time when people actually att= ended raves and=0A> went to hear=0A> music they couldn't hear anywhere else= and socialize=0A> with other people=0A> who were just as sick of normal so= ciety's bullsh*t as=0A> they were. They=0A> didn't go to idolize some idiot= who was just properly=0A> marketed. It was=0A> the music and it moved peop= le. If you support and defend=0A> this Asshat,=0A> it is a slap in the face= to everybody who comes to this for=0A> the right=0A> reasons. Just look at= what has happened to every other=0A> subculture that=0A> has been co-opted= . Hip-hop is a mere shadow of it's=0A> former self. Rock=0A> and roll was c= astrated decades ago and is no longer a=0A> viable option=0A> for conveying= a real message. Punk has become Emo and is=0A> sold at Hot=0A> Topic. Even= country music used to have some grit to it, but=0A> look at=0A> the saccha= rine sweet bag of sh*t it is now.=0A> =0A> Your hero is just another cog in= the giant money machine=0A> that music=0A> has been allowed to be reduced = to. It's only about=0A> money. The fact=0A> that he has to hire engineer's = to make his productions=0A> for him means=0A> that he is no different than = a boy band that has other=0A> people write=0A> their songs. If an "artist" = isn't making=0A> their own art, how can you=0A> put any faith in it? How ca= n you listen to something that=0A> they=0A> themselves do not believe in an= d not feel like you've=0A> been played for=0A> a sucker while they laugh at= you all the way to the bank?=0A> =0A> The bottom line is that there is a l= ot of different music=0A> out there=0A> and lots of genre lines that we cre= ate. But what it all=0A> comes down to=0A> is that there is music that lies= and music that does not=0A> lie. Support=0A> music that does not lie, plea= se.=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice = Award=0A> Winner: Best Radio DJ:=0A> http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollposition= s.php=0A> AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.)=0A> =0A> "Opinions are my= own only, and do not necessarily=0A> represent those of=0A> KZSU Radio or = Stanford University." (or words to that=0A> effect.)=0A> ------------------= ---------------------------------------------------=0A> To unsubscribe, e-m= ail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> For additional commands, e-mail:= sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =0A=0A-------------------------= --------------------------------------------=0ATo unsubscribe, e-mail: sfra= ves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0AFor additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-he= lp@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150345-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 23:23:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15375 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 23:23:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 15358 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 23:23:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=40MI+jc8iLRkrUDA2tb4ZYVlkDarEXYv2eoNM0ZEAoo=; b=o+QEFOSkwNvrRot0X4YE01N0s9ifB5iNW58dkqyE5CiHVhnTu6zwiqal8tfgjW9fWJ K+u5gnFh+J8K5ee1JOQkdkHh51kl/som1+d6uh/oBDT/qSuc+C95KZ7GwCkmCi44yjJS QDainrNTJkeBuEiedAVcQkx7zDdFnBDRxEWYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=KFevcZQbzlfOQ2bkyYhXReJ0byMbnmYzR73i8izoOxLlUvchNdvGdi3CJ0RfSDqnTb 2DdCqFouNNYOJd55Oiftva27NUMok4c/rpgeTNXr4PH7SABG8HAdPwTr2wpSy7vraa4o hSYcX3MKSztZ1vqEBUIp5YVN5mmDHhaTTAs4E= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <344545.69757.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <837470.56785.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <344545.69757.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:24:13 -0800 Message-ID: <7a56aa1f0903041524u1b5230adsc03c3f6102d76b14@mail.gmail.com> From: Lesley Thompson To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown Fair nuff. I just think making blanket statements about being "the best" dj in the world are bs. That's purely relative and depends on genre. We can all agree that he's a giant douche though. On 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > I thought Andy Warhol put to rest the notion that artists had to actually > produce their art?=A0 And wasn't it Duchamp that finished off the idea th= at > art could have value outside of the opinions of an elite that profitted f= rom > manipulating the defnition of same? > > Don't like Tiesto?=A0 Don't buy his music. > > But I don't buy into this "he isn't an artist" bullshit. > > He's an artist of making money by being Tiesto at the very least... > > Best, > > Peter > > --- On Wed, 3/4/09, J.C. wrote: > >> From: J.C. >> Subject: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:18 PM >> Got this from another list. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From the front page of Discogs.com... hilarious: >> >> Latest Music Reviews: >> >> DJ Ti=EBsto - somebedroomdj >> I don't know how I even ended up reading the reviews on >> this page, but >> I do know that statements about this freak being the >> "best dj in the >> world, etc. etc." can not be allowed to filter into >> the collective >> consciousness unchallenged. If that were allowed to happen, >> everything >> would fall apart, we would all spontaneously de-evolve, up >> would >> become down, cats would have sex with dogs and rational >> thought as we >> know it would disappear. And I'll be damned if I'm >> going to contribute >> to that happening. >> >> So I just have to say for the record that this.. this thing >> is nothing >> more than a marketing scheme and any claims of him being >> the best DJ >> in the world are patently ludicrous. Music wise, there is >> nothing new >> here. Same old re-hashed formulas and a no talent money >> machine. This >> is not a baseless accusation either, just check the credits >> on his >> productions. When it says "Written/Composed by: >> XXXX" it means that, >> hello, somebody else did all the work. Simple music for >> simple minded >> people who don't want to have to think too hard. >> >> Of course, those of us with a functioning brain already >> know this. So >> the real issue becomes this: what can be done about this >> wooden shoe >> wearing, tulip growing menace? >> >> Simple. I've outlined a few steps you can take to help >> wage this war: >> >> 1) If you hear somebody extolling the virtues of this >> thing, smack >> them casually (but firmly) upside the head and continue the >> conversation as if nothing had happened. Pavlov was onto >> something and >> there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to >> employ this slight >> variation of his methods. >> >> 2) Though the lion's share of commerce these days is >> done online, >> there are certainly places where this thing's CD's >> and records are >> sold in physical stores. If you ever have occasion to do so >> at one of >> these dens of depravity, you should vomit, urinate, >> defecate or >> otherwise expel your bodily fluid(s) of choice so as to >> contaminate >> every last piece of this thing's merchandise so that >> the store is >> unable to sell it. >> >> 3) Organize an event showcasing your favorite type of >> actual music and >> aggressively advertise that the price of admission will be >> halved for >> everyone who brings you one of this thing's CD's, >> records, t-shirts, >> shoes, caps, keychains or any other such nonsense that is >> branded with >> his name or image. Be very careful to wear rubber gloves >> when handling >> the items and throw them all into a gigantic bonfire pit, >> to be lit at >> the culmination of the event. >> >> If we could all employ this 3 pronged attack, I think we >> could make >> some real progress on this. >> >> Now, to the fanboi's. I know your face is probably beet >> red right >> about now and there's a good chance your body is >> trembling, but I need >> you to hear and understand what I'm saying to you. We >> don't just hate >> Tiesto. He's a mere puppet who is a symptom of a larger >> problem and I >> think that anybody who puts him down probably realizes >> this. It's just >> that he has willingly made himself the poster boy for the >> commercialization of electronic music and, hence, a big fat >> target. >> There was a time when people actually attended raves and >> went to hear >> music they couldn't hear anywhere else and socialize >> with other people >> who were just as sick of normal society's bullsh*t as >> they were. They >> didn't go to idolize some idiot who was just properly >> marketed. It was >> the music and it moved people. If you support and defend >> this Asshat, >> it is a slap in the face to everybody who comes to this for >> the right >> reasons. Just look at what has happened to every other >> subculture that >> has been co-opted. Hip-hop is a mere shadow of it's >> former self. Rock >> and roll was castrated decades ago and is no longer a >> viable option >> for conveying a real message. Punk has become Emo and is >> sold at Hot >> Topic. Even country music used to have some grit to it, but >> look at >> the saccharine sweet bag of sh*t it is now. >> >> Your hero is just another cog in the giant money machine >> that music >> has been allowed to be reduced to. It's only about >> money. The fact >> that he has to hire engineer's to make his productions >> for him means >> that he is no different than a boy band that has other >> people write >> their songs. If an "artist" isn't making >> their own art, how can you >> put any faith in it? How can you listen to something that >> they >> themselves do not believe in and not feel like you've >> been played for >> a sucker while they laugh at you all the way to the bank? >> >> The bottom line is that there is a lot of different music >> out there >> and lots of genre lines that we create. But what it all >> comes down to >> is that there is music that lies and music that does not >> lie. Support >> music that does not lie, please. >> >> >> >> >> -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award >> Winner: Best Radio DJ: >> http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php >> AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) >> >> "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily >> represent those of >> KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that >> effect.) >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --=20 Sent from my mobile device --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150346-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 23:31:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21531 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 23:31:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21513 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 23:31:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236209532; bh=kgQfSnVubxBxncPUR4fq1wcEI5ziJJgFGkCVTkjBOi0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=D67KJ8v5lyY4XTs116uWa3tXaebuC9HQ/6+IcKeyxCVbGNWM2z9V2dVlmTst5Isv2OeORLaU4BZfjtLCFLILfbXApuCa7zkcpvowOIB4WHLOHy/VHpcG2c8zznkVH0AeWzpUrlnoRrhaeeRDnEpcCimM/tphBLZ4GMuaczb2QMM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ykMFAbeiygMkZmotGxms6ZMFSt3IlRL5jlo+smR6dQti5lrkiromMe9SgMulk2QYW8QADavr4Z7aUMpH3ahSQyemK4SHnnchvN+RW0C+uvNtlYiyunuKNwyD7cZ90dp2/tj8SXJxkW+7Fqhm6WYBgi4OPyw92ACVwrufPwNxskU=; Message-ID: <150428.85605.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lOGlKzQVM1kjIiSXWxBjQoY7R7bmPDqjLGGE1LndNn1SEgvwmk24U4xQMyqaEXf.tx3tmPmi18ZToVuUrqzBnlHMghAiD5fbCcybr6LWAOOo1Vx5_987r3FJg70jlFHhaaEP40psy9rF0._lNXsf6QP4l8GJjOZZxeUZsBzD_.ZHODeDXyNXUPzJiPDqfW52iBogv5CfLGLnrj08 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <837470.56785.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <344545.69757.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7a56aa1f0903041524u1b5230adsc03c3f6102d76b14@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 15:32:11 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Lesley Thompson , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <7a56aa1f0903041524u1b5230adsc03c3f6102d76b14@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown Yes, we can agree there. ;)=A0 =0A=0APeter=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Messag= e ----=0AFrom: Lesley Thompson =0ATo: dangrsmin= d@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org=0ASent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 3:24:13= PM=0ASubject: Re: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown=0A=0AFair nuff. I just think = making blanket statements about being "the=0Abest" dj in the world are bs. = That's purely relative and depends on=0Agenre.=0A=0AWe can all agree that h= e's a giant douche though.=0A=0AOn 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:=0A>=0A> I thought Andy Warhol put to rest the notion tha= t artists had to actually=0A> produce their art?=A0 And wasn't it Duchamp t= hat finished off the idea that=0A> art could have value outside of the opin= ions of an elite that profitted from=0A> manipulating the defnition of same= ?=0A>=0A> Don't like Tiesto?=A0 Don't buy his music.=0A>=0A> But I don't bu= y into this "he isn't an artist" bullshit.=0A>=0A> He's an artist of making= money by being Tiesto at the very least...=0A>=0A> Best,=0A>=0A> Peter=0A>= =0A> --- On Wed, 3/4/09, J.C. wrote:=0A>=0A>> Fro= m: J.C. =0A>> Subject: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown= =0A>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0A>> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:18 = PM=0A>> Got this from another list.=0A>>=0A>> ---------- Forwarded message = ----------=0A>>=0A>> From the front page of Discogs.com... hilarious:=0A>>= =0A>> Latest Music Reviews:=0A>>=0A>> DJ Ti=EBsto - somebedroomdj=0A>> I do= n't know how I even ended up reading the reviews on=0A>> this page, but=0A>= > I do know that statements about this freak being the=0A>> "best dj in the= =0A>> world, etc. etc." can not be allowed to filter into=0A>> the collecti= ve=0A>> consciousness unchallenged. If that were allowed to happen,=0A>> ev= erything=0A>> would fall apart, we would all spontaneously de-evolve, up=0A= >> would=0A>> become down, cats would have sex with dogs and rational=0A>> = thought as we=0A>> know it would disappear. And I'll be damned if I'm=0A>> = going to contribute=0A>> to that happening.=0A>>=0A>> So I just have to say= for the record that this.. this thing=0A>> is nothing=0A>> more than a mar= keting scheme and any claims of him being=0A>> the best DJ=0A>> in the worl= d are patently ludicrous. Music wise, there is=0A>> nothing new=0A>> here. = Same old re-hashed formulas and a no talent money=0A>> machine. This=0A>> i= s not a baseless accusation either, just check the credits=0A>> on his=0A>>= productions. When it says "Written/Composed by:=0A>> XXXX" it means that,= =0A>> hello, somebody else did all the work. Simple music for=0A>> simple m= inded=0A>> people who don't want to have to think too hard.=0A>>=0A>> Of co= urse, those of us with a functioning brain already=0A>> know this. So=0A>> = the real issue becomes this: what can be done about this=0A>> wooden shoe= =0A>> wearing, tulip growing menace?=0A>>=0A>> Simple. I've outlined a few = steps you can take to help=0A>> wage this war:=0A>>=0A>> 1) If you hear som= ebody extolling the virtues of this=0A>> thing, smack=0A>> them casually (b= ut firmly) upside the head and continue the=0A>> conversation as if nothing= had happened. Pavlov was onto=0A>> something and=0A>> there's no reason wh= y you shouldn't be able to=0A>> employ this slight=0A>> variation of his me= thods.=0A>>=0A>> 2) Though the lion's share of commerce these days is=0A>> = done online,=0A>> there are certainly places where this thing's CD's=0A>> a= nd records are=0A>> sold in physical stores. If you ever have occasion to d= o so=0A>> at one of=0A>> these dens of depravity, you should vomit, urinate= ,=0A>> defecate or=0A>> otherwise expel your bodily fluid(s) of choice so a= s to=0A>> contaminate=0A>> every last piece of this thing's merchandise so = that=0A>> the store is=0A>> unable to sell it.=0A>>=0A>> 3) Organize an eve= nt showcasing your favorite type of=0A>> actual music and=0A>> aggressively= advertise that the price of admission will be=0A>> halved for=0A>> everyon= e who brings you one of this thing's CD's,=0A>> records, t-shirts,=0A>> sho= es, caps, keychains or any other such nonsense that is=0A>> branded with=0A= >> his name or image. Be very careful to wear rubber gloves=0A>> when handl= ing=0A>> the items and throw them all into a gigantic bonfire pit,=0A>> to = be lit at=0A>> the culmination of the event.=0A>>=0A>> If we could all empl= oy this 3 pronged attack, I think we=0A>> could make=0A>> some real progres= s on this.=0A>>=0A>> Now, to the fanboi's. I know your face is probably bee= t=0A>> red right=0A>> about now and there's a good chance your body is=0A>>= trembling, but I need=0A>> you to hear and understand what I'm saying to y= ou. We=0A>> don't just hate=0A>> Tiesto. He's a mere puppet who is a sympto= m of a larger=0A>> problem and I=0A>> think that anybody who puts him down = probably realizes=0A>> this. It's just=0A>> that he has willingly made hims= elf the poster boy for the=0A>> commercialization of electronic music and, = hence, a big fat=0A>> target.=0A>> There was a time when people actually at= tended raves and=0A>> went to hear=0A>> music they couldn't hear anywhere e= lse and socialize=0A>> with other people=0A>> who were just as sick of norm= al society's bullsh*t as=0A>> they were. They=0A>> didn't go to idolize som= e idiot who was just properly=0A>> marketed. It was=0A>> the music and it m= oved people. If you support and defend=0A>> this Asshat,=0A>> it is a slap = in the face to everybody who comes to this for=0A>> the right=0A>> reasons.= Just look at what has happened to every other=0A>> subculture that=0A>> ha= s been co-opted. Hip-hop is a mere shadow of it's=0A>> former self. Rock=0A= >> and roll was castrated decades ago and is no longer a=0A>> viable option= =0A>> for conveying a real message. Punk has become Emo and is=0A>> sold at= Hot=0A>> Topic. Even country music used to have some grit to it, but=0A>> = look at=0A>> the saccharine sweet bag of sh*t it is now.=0A>>=0A>> Your her= o is just another cog in the giant money machine=0A>> that music=0A>> has b= een allowed to be reduced to. It's only about=0A>> money. The fact=0A>> tha= t he has to hire engineer's to make his productions=0A>> for him means=0A>>= that he is no different than a boy band that has other=0A>> people write= =0A>> their songs. If an "artist" isn't making=0A>> their own art, how can = you=0A>> put any faith in it? How can you listen to something that=0A>> the= y=0A>> themselves do not believe in and not feel like you've=0A>> been play= ed for=0A>> a sucker while they laugh at you all the way to the bank?=0A>>= =0A>> The bottom line is that there is a lot of different music=0A>> out th= ere=0A>> and lots of genre lines that we create. But what it all=0A>> comes= down to=0A>> is that there is music that lies and music that does not=0A>>= lie. Support=0A>> music that does not lie, please.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>= > -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award=0A>> Winner: Best Ra= dio DJ:=0A>> http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php=0A>> AIM: jckzsu (= or kzsudj during my show.)=0A>>=0A>> "Opinions are my own only, and do not = necessarily=0A>> represent those of=0A>> KZSU Radio or Stanford University.= " (or words to that=0A>> effect.)=0A>> ------------------------------------= ---------------------------------=0A>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsu= bscribe@hyperreal.org=0A>> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hy= perreal.org=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> -------------------------------------------= --------------------------=0A> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@= hyperreal.org=0A> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.o= rg=0A>=0A> ----------------------------------------------------------------= -----=0A> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> For= additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A>=0A>=0A=0A-- = =0ASent from my mobile device=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150347-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 04 23:49:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31305 invoked by uid 1103); 4 Mar 2009 23:49:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31272 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2009 23:49:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Zup2i+Yi4n4C5zcEYFofixaEwGfQ1P+GKmZzHDUSru8=; b=GYK3kDOKRQVNfUApocfAErA1SOLnvPRyYyzvshAyQL/P+keCD1JrsvekuXLrEQvYWj usv+d6a2IALJ5ySnPkMWZJPFsF/6J/NNs9ePipBA/tMy/74aIiaLsJN+9hvoNZGFOoQA cnFzzjMI8vmN24zgzA6VEVf54bElU8X3LSVu4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=X2CFj1dj2EJ1vyS+MXMVTcOKEf6NLeg3M0aA7qKpZw5t3wOK49tKkcnEU8rjSAauIc Kancyc9yn4l9pTUxC+a+OijI4q5KMcRT1S6vc+FqLiTEe0NefibACZCeL7NkVUHw4B0H KIKuHomnP60Ax4KV7mP1dcOcnmn0MihekMAWM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 00:49:21 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903041549t6ef54956m4eb40ba03a92839e@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: The War on Consciousness , The Ibogaine List , newsroom-l , Net-Gold@yahoogroups.com, DCRaves Died For Your Sins , "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64ec90a5dd0c0046453b3fa X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BREAKING - Albany Takes Step to Repeal Rockefeller Drug Laws --0016e64ec90a5dd0c0046453b3fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable March 5, 2009 Albany Takes Step to Repeal Rockefeller Drug Laws By JEREMY W. PETERS ALBANY =E2=80=94 The state legislature took pivotal steps on Wednesday towa= rd repealing much of what remains of the state=E2=80=99s 1970s-era drug laws, = which have tied judges hands and imposed mandatory prison terms for many nonviolent drug offenses. The Assembly approved by a 96-46 vote legislation that would restore judges= =E2=80=99 discretion in sentencing lower level drug offenders by removing laws that require a prosecutor=E2=80=99s consent before judges can send someone to a = drug treatment program. Debate on the bill got underway late Wednesday afternoon= . The same bill was introduced on Wednesday in the Senate, where Democratic leaders vowed to quickly take it up. But the task now confronting legislative leaders and Gov. David A. Patersonis to reconcile the Assembly bill =E2=80=94 which is considered the most far-reaching of the proposals on the table now =E2=80=94 with the governor= =E2=80=99s plan and the bill that Senate Democrats write. Drug law reform has for years been one of the most divisive social issues debated in Albany. Bills aimed at broadly overhauling the statutes, known a= s the Rockefeller drug laws because former Gov. Nelson A. Rockefellerchampioned their approval, have routinely passed the Democratic-controlled Assembly over the years, only to die in the Senate, which until this year was run by Republicans. With Democrats now in the majority in the Senate and Mr. Paterson an avowed Rockefeller reform advocate, supporters of rewriting the drug laws see this year as their best chance to pass a plan that essentially does away with mandatory sentences for drug crimes. =E2=80=9CI think the stars are aligned,=E2=80=9D Sheldon Silver, the speaker of the Assembly, said at a news conference on Wednesday morning= . =E2=80=9CIt=E2=80=99s time has come.=E2=80=9D Senate Democrats were debating the issue in a closed-door conference on Wednesday night. But before any three-way compromise is reached, several sticking points nee= d to be resolved. Those issues include whether drug offenders who do not complete treatment would be sent to prison and whether offenders would firs= t need to be certified as addicted before they could enter a treatment program. The State Legislature has already eliminated the stiffest provisions of the Rockefeller laws, doing away in 2004 with life sentences for drug crimes an= d reducing other penalties for the most serious offenses. But supporters of the Assembly plan believe that plan is an opportunity to finish what began in 2004. =E2=80=9CIt should not have taken this state 36 years to realize that manda= tory sentences are a one-size-fits-all approach,=E2=80=9D Mr. Silver said. =E2= =80=9CWe cannot wait another year.=E2=80=9DDrug law reform activists said that the legislat= ion would be an opportunity for New York to catch up after falling behind other state= s that have greatly expanded their drug treatment programs as alternatives to prison. =E2=80=9CThe general theme is states are making greater effort to divert pe= ople into treatment programs, and they=E2=80=99re start to use prison not as a first = resort but a secondary or last resort,=E2=80=9D said Gabriel Sayegh, the director = of organizing and policy for the Drug Policy Alliance Network, a national drug law reform group. =E2=80=9CIf the legislature follows through with moving toward a public hea= lth approach, New York could potentially go from having some of the worst laws in the country to having some of the best.=E2=80=9D But district attorneys have expressed concern that the proposals currently being considered in Albany strip them of their important function as a chec= k against judges. =E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=99ve achieved a balance where we=E2=80=99ve preserved pub= lic safety and reduced our prison population,=E2=80=9D said Michael C. Green, the district attorne= y for Monroe County. =E2=80=9CI look at that and say why do we want to take this = system and make a seismic shift? My fear is that you=E2=80=99re going to disturb o= ne of those trends.=E2=80=9D --=20 Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --0016e64ec90a5dd0c0046453b3fa-- From sfraves-return-150348-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 05 01:05:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74158 invoked by uid 1103); 5 Mar 2009 01:05:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74140 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2009 01:05:37 -0000 Message-ID: <49AF2574.5050507@defsf.com> Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:05:56 -0800 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <837470.56785.qm@web50002.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <344545.69757.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <344545.69757.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown think that artists have had other paint for them since forever. before michelangelo buonorotti painted the entire sistine chapel by himself, he had kicked out the many people helping him on the scaffold cause they kept on messing it up. the flemish masters often taught their skills to others and more paintings are often attributed to the masters than the ones they actually painted. klf didn't make much of their own music either. they just had the good sense to know what worked. sean. dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > I thought Andy Warhol put to rest the notion that artists had to actually produce their art? And wasn't it Duchamp that finished off the idea that art could have value outside of the opinions of an elite that profitted from manipulating the defnition of same? > > Don't like Tiesto? Don't buy his music. > > But I don't buy into this "he isn't an artist" bullshit. > > He's an artist of making money by being Tiesto at the very least... > > Best, > > Peter > > --- On Wed, 3/4/09, J.C. wrote: > > >> From: J.C. >> Subject: [sfraves] Tietso smackdown >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:18 PM >> Got this from another list. >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From the front page of Discogs.com... hilarious: >> >> Latest Music Reviews: >> >> DJ Tiësto - somebedroomdj >> I don't know how I even ended up reading the reviews on >> this page, but >> I do know that statements about this freak being the >> "best dj in the >> world, etc. etc." can not be allowed to filter into >> the collective >> consciousness unchallenged. If that were allowed to happen, >> everything >> would fall apart, we would all spontaneously de-evolve, up >> would >> become down, cats would have sex with dogs and rational >> thought as we >> know it would disappear. And I'll be damned if I'm >> going to contribute >> to that happening. >> >> So I just have to say for the record that this.. this thing >> is nothing >> more than a marketing scheme and any claims of him being >> the best DJ >> in the world are patently ludicrous. Music wise, there is >> nothing new >> here. Same old re-hashed formulas and a no talent money >> machine. This >> is not a baseless accusation either, just check the credits >> on his >> productions. When it says "Written/Composed by: >> XXXX" it means that, >> hello, somebody else did all the work. Simple music for >> simple minded >> people who don't want to have to think too hard. >> >> Of course, those of us with a functioning brain already >> know this. So >> the real issue becomes this: what can be done about this >> wooden shoe >> wearing, tulip growing menace? >> >> Simple. I've outlined a few steps you can take to help >> wage this war: >> >> 1) If you hear somebody extolling the virtues of this >> thing, smack >> them casually (but firmly) upside the head and continue the >> conversation as if nothing had happened. Pavlov was onto >> something and >> there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to >> employ this slight >> variation of his methods. >> >> 2) Though the lion's share of commerce these days is >> done online, >> there are certainly places where this thing's CD's >> and records are >> sold in physical stores. If you ever have occasion to do so >> at one of >> these dens of depravity, you should vomit, urinate, >> defecate or >> otherwise expel your bodily fluid(s) of choice so as to >> contaminate >> every last piece of this thing's merchandise so that >> the store is >> unable to sell it. >> >> 3) Organize an event showcasing your favorite type of >> actual music and >> aggressively advertise that the price of admission will be >> halved for >> everyone who brings you one of this thing's CD's, >> records, t-shirts, >> shoes, caps, keychains or any other such nonsense that is >> branded with >> his name or image. Be very careful to wear rubber gloves >> when handling >> the items and throw them all into a gigantic bonfire pit, >> to be lit at >> the culmination of the event. >> >> If we could all employ this 3 pronged attack, I think we >> could make >> some real progress on this. >> >> Now, to the fanboi's. I know your face is probably beet >> red right >> about now and there's a good chance your body is >> trembling, but I need >> you to hear and understand what I'm saying to you. We >> don't just hate >> Tiesto. He's a mere puppet who is a symptom of a larger >> problem and I >> think that anybody who puts him down probably realizes >> this. It's just >> that he has willingly made himself the poster boy for the >> commercialization of electronic music and, hence, a big fat >> target. >> There was a time when people actually attended raves and >> went to hear >> music they couldn't hear anywhere else and socialize >> with other people >> who were just as sick of normal society's bullsh*t as >> they were. They >> didn't go to idolize some idiot who was just properly >> marketed. It was >> the music and it moved people. If you support and defend >> this Asshat, >> it is a slap in the face to everybody who comes to this for >> the right >> reasons. Just look at what has happened to every other >> subculture that >> has been co-opted. Hip-hop is a mere shadow of it's >> former self. Rock >> and roll was castrated decades ago and is no longer a >> viable option >> for conveying a real message. Punk has become Emo and is >> sold at Hot >> Topic. Even country music used to have some grit to it, but >> look at >> the saccharine sweet bag of sh*t it is now. >> >> Your hero is just another cog in the giant money machine >> that music >> has been allowed to be reduced to. It's only about >> money. The fact >> that he has to hire engineer's to make his productions >> for him means >> that he is no different than a boy band that has other >> people write >> their songs. If an "artist" isn't making >> their own art, how can you >> put any faith in it? How can you listen to something that >> they >> themselves do not believe in and not feel like you've >> been played for >> a sucker while they laugh at you all the way to the bank? >> >> The bottom line is that there is a lot of different music >> out there >> and lots of genre lines that we create. But what it all >> comes down to >> is that there is music that lies and music that does not >> lie. Support >> music that does not lie, please. >> >> >> >> >> -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award >> Winner: Best Radio DJ: >> http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php >> AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) >> >> "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily >> represent those of >> KZSU Radio or Stanford University." 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Message-ID: <530578.40766.qm@web35502.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 4dLqyNkVM1kvfMK4.XxV9PkfxCuMPSOCPntTp6.ySdeyWXeLtFqoy6AwJFXRXZHaIjdGxrEF0kjy8udRZomA8r6_FG0mT5O72LPMmconsmBhKrhSuVsJj49VUPmJ1qkBmxL9eKX3k06dNw_s1QgoeoCX7pUTVBKDUEmN5VUMXqztV_ty_vg.jEQ18ywbyxqfNIW5mJ7ud5CL82Ti.6I28g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 07:36:59 -0800 (PST) From: fable Reply-To: fable_four@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com, dangrsmind@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <217859.84862.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? Actually, this is enough to go on for now. It's slowly coming back to me now...I remember seeing onionz perform, and Donald Glaude. I will have to report back soon. Thanks. fable.... --- On Wed, 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, littleetoile@aol.com > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 10:45 AM > Post stuff you like...that will make it a lot easier to > point you to more... > > Best, > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: fable > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com; > dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 8:14:17 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > I'm looking for anything that can aid me in my search > for good house music. > > It's been frusterating when browsing through tracks to > buy online. It becomes tedious when I spend 30 minutes > listening to songs and not hearing ONE good one. > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > fable.... > > > --- On Wed, 3/4/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com > wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, > littleetoile@aol.com > > Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 8:04 AM > > Weren't you originally looking for house labels? > > > > For some of the old school SF flavor, check out some > of the > > old Tweekin' and Panhandle Records releases if you > can > > find them anywhere. I have a bunch on vinyl... > > > > Also check out Ovum, Dust Traxx, Blockhead, Imperial > Dub, > > older Om records, ... I could go on and on, but I have > to > > run. > > > > BTW, speaking of Imperial Dub, Sunshine Jones > (formerly of > > Dubtribe) is doing some new stuff with a more tech > edge that > > I like a lot. > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: fable > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org; littleetoile@aol.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:25:40 AM > > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > Wow, thanks Alida...this is gonna keep me busy for > hours! > > > > *moves e-mail to personal folder* > > > > fable.... > > > > > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, littleetoile@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > From: littleetoile@aol.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > To: fable_four@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:12 PM > > > Oof. I'm in the process of introducing my > punk > > rock > > > friend to house so luckily for you I just wrote > out a > > list. > > > He was interested in old school Chicago (e.g. > Frankie > > > Knuckles) shit, so I kind of went off of that. > > It's > > > certainly not comprehensive and I'm sure I > forgot > > some > > > maaajor players (already had to add a few since I > > first > > > messaged him), but here's what I wrote him, > for a > > start: > > > > > > Always good to browse here: > > > > > > http://undergroundhouse.net/ > > > > > > On > > > that first page is a set by Troydon that is > awesome, > > > recorded at my Tonal birthday party a couple > years > > ago. > > > I'm sure I love it as much as I do because of > the > > > sentimentality, but I think it's pretty solid > > aside from > > > that. You can also go > > > directly to here and search by artist if you sort > by > > artist > > > name: > > > > > > http://www.undergroundhouse.net/mixes/?view=guest_mixes > > > > > > There > > > are tons of people I can recommend, but I'll > start > > you > > > off with some of > > > the classic heavy-hitters below. It's also > pretty > > much > > > all new stuff on UGH, but... > > > > > > As posted recently, you can also check out old SF > > House > > > sets here: > http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html > > > > > > And more from all over the U.S. here: > > > http://www.ezeskankin.com/ > > > > > > I haven't listened to most of the sets on > those > > two > > > mixtape sites, but classic artists I might > suggest: > > > > > > -DJ Dan > > > -Doc Martin > > > -Donal Glaude > > > -Dutch > > > -Galen > > > -Garth > > > -Halo > > > -Hipp-E > > > -Jeno > > > -John Howard > > > -Josh Wink > > > -Mark Farina > > > -Markie > > > -Marques Wyatt > > > -Onionz > > > -Rick Preston > > > -Roy Davis Jr > > > -DJ Sneak > > > -DJ Spun > > > -Terry Mullan > > > -Tony > > > -Diz > > > -Sound Republic > > > -DJ Heather > > > -Greenskeepers > > > -Green Velvet/Cajmere (same guy, different > aliases) > > > -Paul Johnson > > > -Derrick Carter > > > -Justin Long > > > -Miss Honey Dijon > > > > > > > > > -Joshua (Iz) > > > -Jt Donaldson > > > -Raoul Belmans > > > -Jason Hodges > > > -Joey Youngman > > > > > > > > > (***This below was specific to what he was > looking > > for, so > > > I don't know how applicable it is to you, > > but...***): > > > > > > You also might want to check out some of Terrence > > > Parker's stuff: > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB78W2Ux_9E&feature=PlayList&p=401B366B2D345905&playnext=1&index=3 > > > http://www.myspace.com/littleetoile and click on > the > > > Terrence Parker track I have under my music > section > > > > > > Or Masters at Work (one of my all-time fav fav > faaaaav > > > producers): > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgPRwFXi7YQ&feature=related > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZOFHnSilek > > > > > > And here is one of my all time classic favs: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaV3-ebhrMg&feature=related > > > > > > And another: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ5PC54futo > > > > > > That's all on the more traditional, lighter > side > > of > > > things. The darker, electro, tech, fidget house > stuff > > is > > > also really big right now in SF. Click here and > listen > > to > > > the "bump bump" track for an example: > > > > > > http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=80010187 > > > > > > Or you can go here and stream Galen's latest > > released > > > set (third down) from New Year's Day > Stompy+Sunset > > party > > > (though of the "dirty" shit, he's > still > > on the > > > lighter, more melodic side of things, which I > love). > > That > > > will give you a good overview of what's > popping > > right > > > now: > > > http://samurai.fm/bluntedfunk/index.php > > > > > > > > > For most of the sets you listen to you can go on > UGH > > and > > > then search in the Track ID section to find the > name > > of the > > > record you like. Or if no one's put it up, > you can > > post > > > and ask yourself (e.g. "I'm looking to > ID > > this > > > record: [Artist's name]'s [name of set] > mix, > > at > > > [time in mix when track comes in]."). People > are > > > generally pretty helpful. > > > > > > > > > *phew* Hope that helps! In general, I think the > trick > > > is to pay attention to the records you like, grab > the > > name > > > of the label, then > > > search more of that label's stuff. You'll > > probably > > > start to notice > > > trends in artists and labels that you like best. > > I'm > > > not a DJ or producer so I'm certainly not the > most > > > knowledgeable when it comes to digging for > records, > > but that > > > should give you a start. Good luck! :) > > > > > > > > > Lumph, > > > Alida > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: fable > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Sent: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 4:19 pm > > > Subject: [sfraves]srr: House Tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The mailing list seems to be in a helping mood > > lately...I > > > thought I give this a > > > shot. > > > > > > Got any suggestions on how I can weed out the > good > > house > > > music from the bad? > > > I'm sure the first thing that you will ask is > what > > kind > > > of house music? I like > > > it all, electro, funky, whatever. > > > > > > If you can't help, maybe just shoot off some > of > > your > > > favorite tracks/artists? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > fable.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: > sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150351-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 05 21:11:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63052 invoked by uid 1103); 5 Mar 2009 21:11:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63034 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2009 21:11:55 -0000 Message-ID: <49B04032.7040806@defsf.com> Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 13:12:18 -0800 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adriana , SFR References: <97782.3156.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <97782.3156.qm@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] nrr: update.. i had my truck repo'd voluntarily. possibly like you have now. depending on what they sell it for at auction you are still legally required to pay back your loan even though you don't own the m'f'n vehicle. like they expect you to give up the car cause you can't pay for it then they expect you to still pay for it. it doesn't make sense. but the truth is that legally they can sue for you to repay the loan but they usually don't go that far. they just harass you continually till they think you will break. if they do start to leave messages with lawyers and letters. talk to a bankruptcy lawyer. but you should attempt to pay back what you owe if the vehicle is the only thing wrong on your credit history and you can afford to refinance it. my advice get yourself a beater car like a toyota from 2005 and pay off your loan. sean. Adriana wrote: > i got the lil house rental in berkeley... > > i'm happy..i move in this weekend :) > > plus i'm working fulltime at easter seals in sf.. > > the downside..i lost my car..repo man is coming as soon as i give them an address to pick up..i don't know how all that works out legally..anyone have any idea.. > > -adriana > > > > > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150352-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 06 06:06:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46362 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Mar 2009 06:06:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46346 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2009 06:06:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=XA15tin/BuQvRUhH1duu0YTiPy/C9OthJ2jC/Onaihs=; b=DpWd7W2/CW+1y+mJG1pvsx86Dly2HFPmD/b+XA4UdlGX+00EDs+khyyCbWJoVlDxxM McpkAwkO57q9FnOM8T4xOQcWvFJAEL7o5Xr2Gk7PLV6EDtklf04dbmLba/Ae/DO9c8o5 MJXFN9p9UDn50UP+q+M2FoWmfgjrYls58/EQc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=hG/+dAlzNUazjj42Er2+uh/Ja1DGryndINAA9h203RDr6S8q2ucogx9zr4xVi6EI2N Zrj1+NhKaoHTwXAEfpO/wAmc7np+gNXzAplt4tcXrZXas3itxn48/We0VFhTpa7ovaiL ipFdcwFAcutQldFRMb9UlGjjrjcdm1+XN+veM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 22:06:26 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9300903052206lbfe1069g37776df7905babc2@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd211ccc8730404646d1557 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] anyone going to carl cox tomorrow? --000e0cd211ccc8730404646d1557 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit wondering if someone from the city might bring some kontrol flyers out there in exchange for guestlist for you and a friend for saturday. details re: saturday at www.kontrolsf.com hit me up privately if interested. ----> greg bird --000e0cd211ccc8730404646d1557-- From sfraves-return-150353-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 06 21:55:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43534 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Mar 2009 21:55:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43512 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2009 21:55:37 -0000 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 13:55:57 -0800 (PST) From: AndyW X-X-Sender: andy@atari To: SFRaves In-Reply-To: <1c60b9300903052206lbfe1069g37776df7905babc2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <1c60b9300903052206lbfe1069g37776df7905babc2@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] When Tiesto Lovers Feel Too Much... A touching story of dedication from a trance/prog house lover: http://judgejules.net/index.php?page=4650 "Remember: PLUR. I try to follow the raver code of PLUR but sometimes situations come up where I lose control. Now I'm trying to stay away from street drugs so I can be in control and succeed in my career," John added. Promoting peace & harmony through donkey raping techno since 1996, AndyW andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150354-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 06 23:14:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2390 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Mar 2009 23:14:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2371 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2009 23:14:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236381265; bh=o5DGBRNxhUDUGV5cYFuMR21/Nc/UuvFuYBkSI7nLEwo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T/TGulgb8TlCPEtiYBJyV+rVy8MEfJDrMlR01bYMg9myj7IHVnweUHH0Hkzqwd1Fs8Rwgc8SnEZGL2oXsvpowRNXEymfoXLlAkMX1UqXvt+iilzlVsv3/QdrmS1N7cbR3fYn0aTwWINS69UJIvOG1uzN7XboQetsQFrQeXcRyGs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UR9V8m/QbiDKcRQure1c6UtVRGtHv8OxTILkbqYhMoB/hHdNuhfA0z5kb/Oru9WkT5UNnfLpxAggmrR0Ymw/e3Mt3UvAvIV6W+FupY+SqE1d0kooij6p+diYTlhTaydf91C6H6Iuhk4Vz4XDDa9sH6oXkdhQjTR1cP3qoQtsKwM=; Message-ID: <210731.28911.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: npcVlXIVM1mxUGpZacjPrsBcJq8b6KH_6b_YFwV3PrwJxBt34R0UnnqZFZopp95jSaw1fdMs9W4dLr8V9wTR6CVlZAA6sBv8fT5BGg.ijkZ4XegltpgEqaZeu4rYJEDnaizAUzLChrSsNBzRNGfDl7pdcsS7jF4twU9EzSuBekvlUg2awN2OXquPmXipxu_inohzrdlelL.3hORUeuA- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <1c60b9300903052206lbfe1069g37776df7905babc2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:14:25 -0800 (PST) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: AndyW , SFRaves In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] When Tiesto Lovers Feel Too Much... free the techno donkeys! ----- Original Message ---- From: AndyW To: SFRaves Sent: Friday, March 6, 2009 1:55:57 PM Subject: [sfraves] When Tiesto Lovers Feel Too Much... A touching story of dedication from a trance/prog house lover: http://judgejules.net/index.php?page=4650 "Remember: PLUR. I try to follow the raver code of PLUR but sometimes situations come up where I lose control. Now I'm trying to stay away from street drugs so I can be in control and succeed in my career," John added. Promoting peace & harmony through donkey raping techno since 1996, AndyW andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150355-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 06 23:52:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21108 invoked by uid 1103); 6 Mar 2009 23:52:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21091 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2009 23:52:04 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=k1P2lr9OK+7f0NBJCRa/25vApPmNyT+tZvrlhm3DwIc=; b=kLImzbcYsxxRWIS6WfqQgZ6NgYX+ArIdHASW3QNljyKuXPXUKgtlTZAIKV8CH5edR2 A/+xsmV/9QCZ2yvDJa/wcFDo9lh6ab+/egIfELxEGbEI8eyQi6ajrww5EyxJvLsNv76a 2lf/FjdchOoz79WreWL7qZljURoyYgeEYBLzg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=ZO240Dy0+3YnlHwAV9gf/bLjQInFAG/zjiD9ALEET/rZHHn59moQAZZpAYsTlZ/QXV voEYGPN/vU+EzM0oTwfiPGEg8NI4zgg+P6CMDgPmagMIOMRLlXdXQlnPOje3p6AkVjBj Ibjj/PWb41Sci/TL9edbAj5HDbrHjYdamHJs0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 15:52:24 -0800 Message-ID: <1c60b9300903061552q495bca80ybb974ec0bb64d49a@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22c16f60ce404647bf987 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Poker Flat + Perlon = one of the best [KONTROL] nights ever. TOMORROW! --000e0cd22c16f60ce404647bf987 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wow. We are all really, REALLY excited about this show, folks. Perhaps not out BIGGEST lineup to date, but without a doubt one of the BEST we've ever had. Fans of Steve Bug will definitely love his parter in the Poker Flat nights, MARTIN LANDSKY, making his Endup debut. Get ready for an extended set of sexy and sophisticated minimal house and techno from one of the world's finest! Warming things up for Martin we have another favorite of ours, AUDIO WERNER= , doing a rare LIVE performance. We could try to explain why we've wanted to bring him over for so long, but trust us, you'll have much more fun finding out for yourselves! Since Daylight Savings Time ends tomorrow night, we lose an hour at 2am. Du= e to the slightly shorter show, things will get going early, with Audio Werne= r taking the stage @ 12:30am. Heck, come down before 11pm, hear some great music, and get in FREE! Rest up and eat your Wheaties. This is gonna be a hot one. :) ----> Greg, Craig, Alland, Sammy, and Nikola ___________________________________________ Saturday, March 7th, 2009 [ K O N T R O L ] minimal techno + avant house every 1st Saturday at The Endup featuring from Berlin: MARTIN LANDSKY (Poker Flat . Dessous . Intim) Martin Landsky is without a doubt one of the most revered and sought-after names in underground dance music today. In addition to running the Poker Flat Nights with Steve Bug and producing for several ace labels including his own Intim, his skills behind the decks (including exalted performances at last year's WMC and DEMF) have raised his profile to near legendary proportions. Prepare for a night of sexy and artful house and techno, paired with the impeccable programming and flawless mixing Martin has come to be known for the world over. and from Cologne: AUDIO WERNER - LIVE (Perlon . Hartchef Discos. Hello?Repeat . Ware) (Circus Company. Trapez . Musique Risqu=E9e) Audio Werner first caught our ears and won our hearts at 2006's DEMF, where his jaw-dropping live PA stole the show at the Get Perlonized afterparty. His highly creative, technically masterful, and relentlessly funky productions have established a benchmark of quality strived for by musicians around the globe. We've wanted to bring him over for years, and are truly honored to now present a rare live performance of brand new material by one of our favorite artists in his SF debut. with [KONTROL] residents: CRAIG KUNA (Platform . ESDJCO) http://www.myspace.com/craig1 ALLAND BYALLO (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail) http://www.myspace.com/alland SAMMY D (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil) http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle NIKOLA BAYTALA (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own) http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat Set times: 1000-1050 Nikola Baytala 1050-1140 Alland Byallo 1140-1230 Craig Kuna 1230-0200 Audio Werner (live) (clocks jump forward 1 hour) 0300-0510 Martin Landsky 0510-0600 Sammy D ____________________________________________________ The ENDUP 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $20 http://www.theendup.com FREE before 11pm! ____________________________________________________ [KONTROL] on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf Flyer front: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/K45F.jpg Flyer back: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/K45B.jpg Poster: http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/K45P.jpg ___________________________________________________ MARTIN LANDSKY Unlike any other German protagonist of the electronic dance scene, Martin Landsky withdrew himself from the well known category of electronic dance music. The verbal approach is of course only a portion of the complete and original sound of Landsky=91s music which combines Techno, House, Minimal a= nd Funk. He has been creating waves as a sensational DJ and producer since the mid-90's and Landsky has also been heard and recognized since 2000 as one o= f the key figures in the circle of producers at Poker Flat Recordings. The label owner Steve Bug is also a long term friend of Landsky. "As a DJ and as musician I try to balance between both traditional House an= d Techno music. Despite the fact that I use a lot of reduction for that electronic sound, it is my duty to create deep music which must also always include twisty and funky elements=93 says Martin. With confidant mixing fro= m retrostyle roots to up-to-date Club music, this all but consequently represents Landsky like hardly any other musician and DJ of the Poker Flat Style. The special affinity to the roots of black club music fell in Landsky=91s sight early on in his life. Through his hobby of breakdancing as an eleven year old boy, Martin Landsky aquired an impulsive contact to dance music, from funk to hiphop. Starting initially on a tapedeck and then later on hi= s fathers Bontempi organ, as well as a pitch control record player, it was clear to see from the first single megamixes he produced that he had lost his heart hopelessly to the music. In the beginning DJing was always the most important thing for Landsky=91s musical identity. He was just fourteen when he first started to perform at school celebrations and private parties. Of course the ultimate moment of his musical carrier came around when he first visited Hamburg=91s Kultclub Front in 1988. The mixture of Funk and the growing trend of House, Acid and Techno electrified Landsky like nothing else before and has affected his musical aesthetics up untill the present day.. In 1994 his hard work and persistance payed off and his dream came true when he was offered a regular residency at his favourite club. It soon became clear that Landsky would not last the duration as just an exclusive and shining local heroic DJ and so then started to work for the newly established distribution department of Container Records. He then later worked for the distribution company Word and Sound, and it was throug= h both of these jobs that he gained valuable contacts which helped him to travel much further afield as a DJ. At the end of 1999 he made a last and final decision to leave Hamburg and try his luck in Berlin as a full time D= J and Musician. With the help of regular Bookings and his friends Cl=E9 and Steve Bug, he helped to arrange a series of "Poker Flat Nights" at famous "Sternradio" and regular headliner bookings in some of the most renowned clubs in Berlin such as E-Werk, the Pfefferbank, Tresor and Casino. He also put together many Mix CD=91s for labels such as Poker Flat, Systematic and = the Partysan complilation series which turned Landsky into one of the most important figures in the German Club sound of the year 2000. Parallel to this and as a result of his music productions, Landsky gained the status as one of the most important protagonists with a slightly different understanding of house music. Two years after Martin Landsky=91s first release in 1995 called "Sampled House Vol. 1" for Container Records, he then announced the release of his first 12" the "Horner Corner EP" in 1997 under the name of Pseudonym 'City Nord' on the London label MC Projects. From this point on Landsky=91s definition of House music became internationally known. The following year Martin released his 12=93 "My Hidden Basement" which was the starting point of his first new label=82 Effortil Records, then came "Love-Fourty" which was the second release to appear in 1999. His label, no= w under the name of Intim Recordings and of course his first releases for Dessous ("Wild EP") and Poker Flat ("Crude Clay"), made him acquainted for the first time within a big circle of renown DJ=91s and producers. Still, i= n the year 2000 he began working on his first longplayer for Poker Flat Records, which in the following year brought his status up to an international level. "In Between" was the title of Landskys debut album which was directly linked to his third Intim-EP "Follow Me" and the Poker Flat Records 12" release "Sweet Sweet Morning". The year 2001 was the most productive and successful year in Landsky=91s career. In the Summer of 2003 Landsky had reached a new point in his understanding of House music. On "Reject" he worked together intensively with Filip G., a= n amazing vocalist from Hamburg. Not least because of the catchy vocals, the single became a massive global club hit which lasted for weeks in the Germa= n club charts and which also landed Landsky into the playlists of some of the hippest DJs around. There was also Landsky=91s remix of the single "The Difference" by DK7 which was played to extent up and down the clubs worldwide. Besides the remixes (for D.H.S., Marc Romboy, Booka Shade, Eyerer & Chopstick or Namito) In the past, Landsky recently created some special moments for club nights with the hits "Fools (They Don't Know The Time)" from 2004, "FM Safari" (2005) and last but not least "1000 Miles" (2006), a dusky hypnotic masterpiece which is without a doubt Landsky=91s most successful piece of work. More recently "Let me Dance" was the next track t= o follow up in the footsteps of "1000 Miles". *** Resident Advisor on Landsky's return to NYC: "Does Martin Landsky play the sexiest techno in the business? After blow-up sets in Miami and Detroit last year coupled with a devastating afterhours performance at Rebel for Sunday School for Degenerates New York, Martin returns for a follow-up lesson in house, techno, with hints of acid. The Intim label headmaster puts together a portfolio with everything from flawless mixing to sexy vocals that shows why he is hailed as one of the to= p DJs in the upper class of the Techno community." =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Martin Landsky's website: http://www.landsky.de/ Martin Landsky's discography: http://www.discogs.com/artist/martin%20landsky Martin Landsky on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/mlandsky =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Martin Landsky - Live @ Oslo, Detroit 05.25.08 http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/Martin_Landsky_@_Oslo_-_DEMF08.mp3 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Martin Landsky @ Kecel Fest, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dh5iRB7dC5-k Martin Landsky @ Romy S, Stuttgart - 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVti0LcXUxgU __________________________________________________________________ AUDIO WERNER Andreas Werner is one of today's most prolific figures in the incredible techno universe of Cologne. He encapsulates a delicate rhythmic sound and expression that is best exemplified in his 12=94 'Zwrtshak Drive'=97a favor= ite among artists such as Guido Schneider, Richie Hawtin and Ricardo Villalobos= . It was also a #1 selection in the German publication Groove Magazine. Supported in recent years by Triple R (head of the Traum label) under his pseudonym Audio Werner, Andreas has developed a sound that has renewed and continued the refined techno tradition in Cologne=97the flagship European c= ity for electronic music over the last decade. Audio Werner has had releases on Perlon, Hello?Repeat, Traum, Trapez, Moon Harbour, Ware, and his own Hartchef Discos, disseminating his meticulous works that today still reveal many fresh nuances. His sound is part of a genre that the Germans gravitate to consistently and not without palpable success, especially considering the adversity towards decadent raves in recent memory. Both contemplative and functional, his musical style is a voice for artisti= c minimalism in Cologne and serves as a reference for the entire internationa= l scene. =3D=3D=3D> LINKS: Audio Werner's website: http://www.hartchef.de Audio Werner's discography http://www.discogs.com/artist/Audio%20Werner Audio Werner on MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/audiowerner =3D=3D=3D> AUDIO: Audio Werner - DJ set @ Crossroads, Tokyo 06.23.07 http://www.kontrolsf.com/K45/Audio_Werner_-_DJ_set_2007.mp3 =3D=3D=3D> VIDEO: Audio Werner @ Subway, Koln - 2008 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DvKFOnDH--dU Audio Werner @ LesIzMor, Brussels - 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DxC4iiaElsuc ___________________________________________________ http://www.kontrolsf.com --000e0cd22c16f60ce404647bf987-- From sfraves-return-150356-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 02:40:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6152 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 02:40:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6117 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 02:40:26 -0000 Message-ID: <8B1024B6F94D433481A2FD7E7622E5EC@nicholase320fdd28> From: "nico" To: "Chelsea Faith" , "SFR" , "* DEF-SF announce list" References: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:40:45 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3 Finally got around to listening to this. Really liked it a lot. But there's been a track of your's I fell in love with ... The mp3 is titled "August 20-3.3". It's pretty, mellow, but damn does it do the trick. I very much enjoyed this and I look forward to hearing everything you make, Chel-C. love always n i c o ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chelsea Faith" To: "SFR" ; "* DEF-SF announce list" Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:49 AM Subject: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3 > Good morning everyone =) > > A remix I did of for SubSensory Recordings of DJ Flipsta's 'Real Thugs' > is > out today on Beatport. The EP also features mixes from Mikiphone, Marko > Vilches, and DJ Jak. > > Check it out here: > https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/158863/Real%20Thugs > > You can also hear the full track on my Soundcloud page: > www.soundcloud.com/cfaith > > > Love Chelsea > > P.S. In case I haven't spammed you enough, my recently released EP 'Free > Spirit Lost Soul' is also on Beatport, here: > https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/Free%20Spirit%20Lost%20Soul%20EP > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150357-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 05:04:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79380 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 05:04:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79361 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 05:04:53 -0000 Message-ID: <49B20088.7090903@twenty-hz.com> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 21:05:12 -0800 From: "John S. Lee" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Macintosh/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'SFR' Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Simply great music DJ Jeno's NoiseFromTheVoid sets! Still an amazing DJ after freaking decades. http://www.noisefromthevoid.com/she%20is%20beyondpart1.mp3 http://www.noisefromthevoid.com/she%20is%20beyondpart2.mp3 Rare stuff, cool mix, must be Jeno! -John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150358-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 07:18:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24764 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 07:18:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24746 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 07:18:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ps0eORS4cev9nh62lU0nCJfwri3TSXDIfVua5jVDFn0=; b=gR8PeeqaBIhn9/fgdaUl1rRes/SF1bggg5yQnMQJZi8xQBdSkH2xUckp/Ia+vVkDcj huU8czoopBH6EAp8KDMs0L2T+aF6rmx+NJczAzIIV1oqCju2Eei0y/bUv9vdWoAYBdbw DCnHkcb3gP1SvlnzamXnMHLe3VzM55XL3efKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=uqE+9jT0ZNuLO5MVMkrqc1moYaY6YaYXPjP2P/WvJo/Da5eJRAT8B9wcV5Dwoaw22a LRpRoJHCFCmYKwJ/WfhHjGOg2UCMOUDanW61xkMJsMJwpFwQTxLDQmxMQ2X5JAzhjMKx UnH1piIBa9OClnnNC4YUhGbDcJCw0aUiNifkI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8B1024B6F94D433481A2FD7E7622E5EC@nicholase320fdd28> References: <8B1024B6F94D433481A2FD7E7622E5EC@nicholase320fdd28> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 23:19:01 -0800 Message-ID: From: Chelsea Faith To: nico Cc: SFR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636417f813523890464823797 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3 --001636417f813523890464823797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, thanks! The track you mention... how did you get that?? It's a song I did for my band Easystreet called "Borders of the Heart (International)", you have the instrumental version. Just debuted this live the other night.... Glad you like my work. =) Love Chelsea On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 6:40 PM, nico wrote: > Finally got around to listening to this. Really liked it a lot. But > there's been a track of your's I fell in love with ... > > The mp3 is titled "August 20-3.3". It's pretty, mellow, but damn does it > do the trick. I very much enjoyed this and I look forward to hearing > everything you make, Chel-C. > > love always > > n i c o > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chelsea Faith" > To: "SFR" ; "* DEF-SF announce list" < > def-announce@defsf.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:49 AM > Subject: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3 > > > Good morning everyone =) >> >> A remix I did of for SubSensory Recordings of DJ Flipsta's 'Real Thugs' >> is >> out today on Beatport. The EP also features mixes from Mikiphone, Marko >> Vilches, and DJ Jak. >> >> Check it out here: >> >> https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/158863/Real%20Thugs >> >> You can also hear the full track on my Soundcloud page: >> www.soundcloud.com/cfaith >> >> >> Love Chelsea >> >> P.S. In case I haven't spammed you enough, my recently released EP 'Free >> Spirit Lost Soul' is also on Beatport, here: >> >> https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/Free%20Spirit%20Lost%20Soul%20EP >> >> > --001636417f813523890464823797-- From sfraves-return-150359-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 10:29:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17553 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 10:29:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 17537 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 10:29:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20090307042932.d4cc7p1mgwcsc8kw@webmail.viberation.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 04:29:32 -0600 From: osby@viberation.com To: SFRaves References: <1c60b9300903052206lbfe1069g37776df7905babc2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] My Wed night Review So I managed to get out on Wed night, hoping the public transportation =20 gods & goddesses would be nice to me & let me watch Easy Street =20 perform... I mean... I got to the City by approx. like 7:45-ish, ate =20 some dinner, well.. i got off @ the wrong stop... i shulda got off =20 Civiv & 8th, but got off Powell... so the walk after dinner from SF =20 Centre to The Stud was kinda long... oh well... i got there & like =20 yaaaaaaaay... i saw Chel-C!!!! We talked, I watched her set up, i saw =20 her look a goth girlie during their sound check under like this red =20 light, I saw them perform 1 song during sound check, man... that =20 vocoder stuff that Chel-C does is just so yummy... Travis' vocals were =20 sooo good to, I mean, he kinda went flat sometimes during sound check, =20 but man, his energy on stage is just Awesome!!! So it was fun hangin' out there & just catching up, met a few new =20 people.. unfortunately, I had to duck out around 10PM-ish 'cause =20 well... had to catch 1 of the last buses that went to Hercules from El =20 Cerrito Del Norte... I mean... after reading the debut of their new =20 song in Chel-C's last post, I kinda felt bad I couldn't stay longer... =20 but hopefully I was able to show support by being there early... but =20 there are more Easy Street performances to come & I can't wait to =20 fully be there for those... YAAAAY I mean.. it was a good night to be out of suberbia 'cause well, it =20 hasn't rained all day & it was just nice bein' in the city.. ok.. so =20 like by the time i got to hercules... like I usually call home for =20 someone to get me @ the gas station... so when i was @ the gas =20 station, i called & that recorded voice "the number you are trying to =20 reach" yada yada yada was on instead of singing... well... by the time =20 i got to hercules, it was like kinda hardcore pouring rain, so i =20 figured that the node where all teh comcast power comes from was =20 fucked again or something... so i just kinda kicked it @ the gas =20 station & talked to my Uncle who works graveyard there, then this dude =20 & this lady walk in & either bough 5 calling cards or 5 lotto =20 tickets... the guy turned around to me said HI to me... "Are you OK?" he asked me. "I'm alright I guess, I mean like, I'm hella tryin' to call home & the =20 phone's diconnected or something, I'm guessin' 'cause of the rain, & I =20 have no way to get home unless I walk which would be kinda hardcore to =20 do right now," I replied. "So you need a ride home? Where do you live?" he asked. "Ummm, well... like kinda down the street, down refugio passed the big =20 circle," I said. "Oh, that's not far, I can give you a ride home! That wouldn't be a =20 problem at all!" he said. "Holy Shit, are you fuckin' serious?? That fuckin' Rocks man... Thank =20 You soo much!" I said. "No problem," he said with a giggle then turned back to his friend to =20 take care of them lotto tickets or calling cards. So I followed them back to their car & got in... there was this other =20 dude in the driver's seat... the lady got in the back, sat down, & =20 suggested we all pray.. lol... Hello 2day... so I bowed my head while =20 we all prayed.. shortly after, she got her stuff & left... From Shell to my house, the rain started pouring harder, but oh my =20 goodness man, Thank God I was in a car getting a ride & not walking =20 (no pun intended)... on the way to my house, the guys told me how they =20 were youth ministers, we had some Bible talk, & I told them about my =20 recent loses.. by the time we got to my house, they felt a need to =20 pray again, so for a few minutes, we prayed... again.. lol... then =20 they told me about their weekly Bible Study prayer meetings & invited =20 me, which I thought sounded like a good idea since I haven't really =20 fellowshipped in a while or visited that part of my life in a while, =20 so yeah, why not.. lol... But yeah man... that was kinda intense... all in all, it was an =20 interesting night :) I mean.. mondo point being, yes, I did see Easy =20 Street, although it was just 1 song, & it was during sound check, but =20 yummy chooange, singing, & overall 2 thumbs up :) Peace=3D-> Just Me=3D-> Osby {8O) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150360-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 11:02:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34357 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 11:02:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34339 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 11:02:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236423768; bh=+H75Qd6xuUJhKRB13zqMydRW/76OwkQ5jjR7VR/4utg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r3GvYmuyVs61S6TAame+mZOokNXOosqJxyeSni1WCoA6/Fyr/Ijo5u7/pGA8CZT79exbzf66lnonKcZEDLFpE016vWUpkN35zDXgbA6i/ZuIQ/liTkRr9awnihfu4OVL+B+PaK6QgDMArXTIUGyAYeXsO93QojwiDcZ5i/NqjII= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZgtdWWB2/QGx8+id9H183qEUFAybF4mSvkf5DV7db+SeTi7IjtRRIHQmgsrlLzjsDjX/dtYy8VQMnMZbOouHxogck9MnpzIzYoCnGbmzHneU5blkhoAa8HauhVeSpYOrJNt72GY/9/YTa+K4KAd+6uQICMmrF66ccTAY1eWPBAo=; Message-ID: <432643.58805.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: sAYx7_IVM1m5FgwrcikRCEmVuz4Xu4MAFxmvv8URt2Esox8Cbl9dLho6KGO4hb8ZOEuh_u6x1hJ49K8nrf3RvV.lLiLa_igrNo6lshe8PhjgOm3FQBne.WljRclrA3Z_C.j33o2HGASzo0RhMFVZn6cytjH6rnR1WEIs6BYW5PasFQERFROI.X23sPxXM16GHHIDQIriXCWjKN6l0lzCsO2QSzI- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:02:48 -0800 (PST) From: Other World Reply-To: otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com To: SFRaves In-Reply-To: <20090307042932.d4cc7p1mgwcsc8kw@webmail.viberation.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] My Wed night Review Hi everyone- AZEEM who's an artist on our new record label Oaklyn Records is in the running for BET's "Artist Of The Month". He needs as many votes as possible to win this thing and we'd be grateful for anybody who could throw him their vote. It only takes 2 seconds and doesn't require you to enter any info or e-mail. Just click Azeem and submit. You can also watch his video "Open Em Up" if you haven't seen it before. Anyways thanks so much for any help with this. ~Mike Sims http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/deal/deal_ya_heard.htm??Referrer=%7B626141E B-9CF7-463E-92C7-6F31C8698895%7D --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150361-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 11:03:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35633 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 11:03:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35614 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 11:03:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236423856; bh=+H75Qd6xuUJhKRB13zqMydRW/76OwkQ5jjR7VR/4utg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zMcxK4XNou7+CkbmNMF0mL6WHuAVWwq0gpsuFFVDksf1EI0FwyKiazMmIk0tsORUopjDWHMnMB9o9sdg8C/emeomcKxjWSg6FyFmOHkT2K0yZBVKsyiXl42XEgIPd68nT2oM3IE0qVovtGcc1Z8Wq/xddn7f8b6HeDH9+cIsqO8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kkF4xpowiIZKRT3uF2kwf6GuB8gFL2AzcF6rOjPPxbHcqO5QgfXUGSH7uV7fYK1daHYPurkg0eYSOxTdioRnaeCU1z4P1h+Axbuy0OOdAhKrlEqsDNxSgmy6RCGUSTfvxWeIkVgcfb4cvBNvnDB3BqpFk9OVlvt/4JE2p5GVNhE=; Message-ID: <558512.17817.qm@web53409.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Rdpl4wcVM1mrIVetvO7wl5Y0MdxyBJEY87_tKZaOyJcHI6wCSTnpgpuG2VNv6AkJ0vBtV6cEICez1k.uRdPbm179FSb_gFsQ3cuAc5KvfIwjh9FN3SNI29lgPG8QRlG5s8l5376DcjIn4gu8HOTyl4VZFwxhEFz4TToslmMU64VTIkEWrlmOYYqLLJlcuTTeifTgVzC6OeVfAxN6K9BUky050zU- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:04:16 -0800 (PST) From: Other World Reply-To: otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com To: SFRaves In-Reply-To: <20090307042932.d4cc7p1mgwcsc8kw@webmail.viberation.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] oops! Could you spare a minute of your time. :) Hi everyone- AZEEM who's an artist on our new record label Oaklyn Records is in the running for BET's "Artist Of The Month". He needs as many votes as possible to win this thing and we'd be grateful for anybody who could throw him their vote. It only takes 2 seconds and doesn't require you to enter any info or e-mail. Just click Azeem and submit. You can also watch his video "Open Em Up" if you haven't seen it before. Anyways thanks so much for any help with this. ~Mike Sims http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/deal/deal_ya_heard.htm??Referrer=%7B626141E B-9CF7-463E-92C7-6F31C8698895%7D --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150362-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 11:06:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38040 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 11:06:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38001 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 11:06:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236424004; bh=lbl8wcPiG19gt72sf2AdvM9JHiSSk9s6fFj6Xii+Bh8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rZZ3ur8UDaNM9aPEAGbJURln1ejT5Z3XPv4mqt4P2lxLgXkzVnE9ozk4UFZAaEiU5CMRzVNeIQoV4Tc8Ityc49/ciZb7OSEEkPTORf+iWLUcIGmjURA8d3E1S7DixV0oF1aPNBA6jEvGv/gSk73t4jMqtu9lJQwEomLIUkBVeWk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z27Gvzx850T/wcQ66WpnxYnCwwhMHcY1KzgXTYGtJX8474HqvaSxlPFk/bMiABDXEEkFDH2Kk1st1yJDh0KUljdaKMV2kLp0tur87DXNR5rd4yeEhVmFkAQwCgDWVWCKqUPt5wSvdA314Q4E2hIHLkrlvv5lmxHbv8W4nQgWBck=; Message-ID: <394791.41206.qm@web53407.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NzhBah0VM1mM7gC4QcdqCVCDH3RPR2vDO85sK88IiymRE.sfi8QcuElQM7ijlPLReAPXlek6RQzf19UFncs7dCq1KrO2X4NKsTNo0JnziFRNqFF.BJCloYCT3jLS2I4RWpUndPtXhbLGKexbAZ5blq9MDQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 03:06:44 -0800 (PST) From: Other World Reply-To: otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com To: SFRaves In-Reply-To: <432643.58805.qm@web53408.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] My Wed night Review oops! sorry for posting to the wrong thread. ~Mike --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150363-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 07 23:49:40 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63524 invoked by uid 1103); 7 Mar 2009 23:49:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 63508 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2009 23:49:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236469798; bh=mj40cNP9QM5TnkgRjvjZRolnIw6syqeGoYLLYb8Bqtc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wzxSHImoT5FgxJF/zOEAmRvFQqD38V5bcg6sdytNu2m0ySBzPiKFMV7NO8YKNyoU04R8IpSs3UEu3KMJC2gbbYB+HnNKNDCeXMN34PNK8dk1eTFunzsW/xU+2FeJKqBqbTp4JesHV3/b4KkyFdRfEVilAhpYeNPFSUjDl/qa1jI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4cGSHajm5d51WgqU1sF9hDGQN6RLgqd+xuvrBUxmamFph80WO2GUiDpX+hEgnnIeP5YFcYGy3FNv6cuZzCfiCX+yTzl8BdYS16IZaY9Xfq/+xso69DzFqVzTeZJiqYZH3AwAzH5Ogz5ekmcL9B592zK/WFAmz/9hT4HAWWfqxu8=; Message-ID: <766277.59196.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Xn4w79UVM1ldkrcdCiXdP_q7_xDStl2vBWMiBwCsfaULWhdHwTRQV67XElFFJYD2gzhDbq5XwKqiPARdLW3JTh1_rdrXN3xJWDswgB15QKz02Dg1sPSmXZXURWNQxHYId_m3LTimPpBTt9ChFl9_K._o50kXmyg4BPgPd9bwaT80OtLuaC.Ne8lfbjxC X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 15:49:58 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: TONIGHT!! 3/7 - Flaming Lotus Girls' Serpent Mother - FREE The Flaming Lotus Girls and The Ambient Mafia present: SERPENT MOTHER ART RECEPTION * TONIGHT, 03.07.09 Tonight, on Saturday March 7th, the Serpent will light up the Bay in an art= opening gala reception from 7.00PM-midnight. There has never been a sculpture like the Serpent Mother. The warmth of her= embrace and her coiling design create an atmospheric space in which over a= thousand people can stand. Her 168=E2=80=99 long stainless steel spine coi= ls around the massive space, while her 20=E2=80=99 long neck and head tower= over her audience. The audience takes control, however, by directing her m= ovement, raising her hydraulically- actuated neck and opening her fanged mo= uth. Full audience participation makes each installation a singular experie= nce =E2=80=93 come make it happen. This magnificent installation of a 168' skeletal stainless steel snake will= be on display Saturday March 7th, on Treasure Island. We will open the Ser= pent for a gallery opening from 7 pm until midnight. We hope you will join = us for this fun and free event. Music provided by The Ambient Mafia: olde nasty vs. peek nasty the captain vs. harken shane mino redstickman About the FLG: The Flaming Lotus Girls are a female-driven group of metal artists who desi= gn and construct kinetic, mechanical fire art. Our mission is to create mon= umental works of interactive art through a collaborative process. Our visio= n is to empower women to learn new skills and become experienced, talented = and active artists in their own right. Our work =E2=80=93 a combination of sculptural arts, kinetics, robotics, el= ectronics, and fire engineering - is designed collaboratively; made collabo= ratively. We create interactive large-scale fire installations that engages viewers a= nd invite them to become part of the art. TONIGHT!! 3/7/09 7pm - Midnight 200 California Ave. Treasure Island, SF FREE=09=09=09=09 =0A=0A=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150364-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 08 00:19:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81427 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Mar 2009 00:19:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81400 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 00:19:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236471614; bh=pheCEzSrCyY/pCtYZ5ey4LHVTQM6a3gPqLs0BndY0xk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XnXO1gjno5EokysmJlXQzil6tHIerrrmkmz5F0bg3GWNB7oVTT/3JTNgkdGuYXn5U+iC6JnRT+SoZ/JijG0Lx8DVirjmz4j0VKunnuGsSLXUkLbFYCgEsUOpY/lIpKaOU1wyFVnLIOu+FaDnPSn9AHr58LXn3EFSOwbQNZBuCxo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=fbBW1o15cwrreLc3kSq02E31p8nFkqx9BZpa+HzENtbOlHqYiRs925ebGP81Cg0Y3d1J21rg/NXm48RMrUQMkTkAtSLsRZiYcYAOduMIUpbWKza10gW9oxPqNF8dl8nlSYhZXpnouhv29h2fyxXXUpO3QpBew2gEIK9t/QbLe6k=; Message-ID: <897790.77639.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: bcgwRo8VM1lbi2VjRticNA53jWh1yYIRepnHCh81F.E_qjBvXYwe2tf16T5B5Q5sbd_QLUFi178FNft2ZQEohIMf7PvtmBExPoQPWTofMpB_1jjdrAf6FO_VZRR0vCz8XepZ5uMfiaVJG9cV9ag2.SKRj_ZUERZokcQB3XAqq2TkcvmniGQ607e0.hbFco_wnvmjLhF9jYP6LXYuBNYZ2Zky.qOblJeBtAo8 X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 16:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP - tonight - *GREEN LITE: Revolt!!* *Saturday March 7 2009 :: shameless presents=E2=80=A6.* *GREEN LITE: Revolt!!* The Shameless 1 Year Anniversary Party With DJS: M3 (Green Gorilla, Tweekin Records) Mancub (Space Cowboys, Sleevin Records) Robb Green (Shameless) Red Stickman vs. Aaron Jae (FNF, Baad News) (E.B., Space Cowboys) Lindsey-G (AV, Muti Music, Layerz) SimpleGreene (Shameless, Strategik) Jen Woolfe (Shameless, Dreemworld) Hosted by Mugsie Full Bar 21+ :: $12 @ the door 10pm =E2=80=93 6am :: Bring yo dancing shoes underground location Call info line for location day of event: 415-577-2060 www.myspace.com/shamelesssf simply.shameless.sf@gmail.com ---------------------------------------------------- www.redstickman.com blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah ----------------------------------------------------=0A=0A=0A --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150365-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 08 03:01:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46515 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Mar 2009 03:01:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46499 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 03:01:44 -0000 Message-ID: <49B3352E.8040107@defsf.com> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 19:02:06 -0800 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 CC: 'SFR' References: <49B20088.7090903@twenty-hz.com> In-Reply-To: <49B20088.7090903@twenty-hz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Simply great music i like all the heads who keep posting links to sets. this is true SFR spirit. kudos and applause. i'm not going to spam the links to my site but if i come across anything new i will let you all know. lol. sean. John S. Lee wrote: > DJ Jeno's NoiseFromTheVoid sets! Still an amazing DJ after freaking > decades. > > http://www.noisefromthevoid.com/she%20is%20beyondpart1.mp3 > > http://www.noisefromthevoid.com/she%20is%20beyondpart2.mp3 > > Rare stuff, cool mix, must be Jeno! > > -John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150366-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 08 07:05:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49660 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Mar 2009 07:05:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49643 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 07:05:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236495968; bh=ltkaBLnlHX7RGrqpli4shmuft1G9tcU511CqTptE/JE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pG5bBz9UEISnnMTXeblwmr8IMK5/Gs4fO3e5vSbS5cxlp13e+c2tTFS3WH5OJODx4qdmJSOzDZuo9ENmnLKh8J879Uco9YOXgxpCXTDqKsQc0Usk/FasyjM60kx/Ed7sKil3Tkp3ad3Ve9r6UBaB+RmrE50COq6hNhtuWd3yHsU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L1/+ZABc1gRky22SPvzPJc7masUo/KvhXeNqB2piN6DZYyILoYHMilJqXkOWmphSJJ7wJ99SZ6eIgQ2AGvcT0vXamiFUmIs4MKdVrytsdiRzRwad5TXcnt47kXigdj5ilZLqkR2BxO8orv8vLbyHe0y5hbh92i5bJGTJPJh4L6Q=; Message-ID: <137520.48117.qm@web65610.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DBbEc.sVM1lVj6dWwssWdq93vq1rsYB5xW3rdrwVgc_5oozp0JvNn3Q5gf4YSQtQNWK_gYRUT1fFCUCojegw1TFPi0QBTj_BXXU9kJhPY.tzR33A1HH4nub95YiX7CBLWIJrupEXqexzzgJs_Sz5NXP6uo2kAu5_l5veFVqpmK_Lt6jgg.6UdkMQaAIK34W435o4AQgJxCfSVyTQEA895dahVqa34etOz9zRApylvJiXVlNg5dngpUBJuL5Aw.4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 23:06:08 -0800 (PST) From: George Cochrane To: SFRaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] The product of a sunny Saturday I got super inspired at the Ghostly show last night and made a trippy, spacey downtempo track, along with a big series of photos taken while biking around in the sun. Just wanted to share this stuff. Check it out! http://www.georgecochrane.com/?p=269 -George --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150367-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 08 15:39:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10242 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Mar 2009 15:39:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10222 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 15:39:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236526800; bh=E7gQ67jvwXRqOrz3xveLnK+NMFccZlI6Q62BzPtvhyE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=CG40Bhy7y9o25xy93ItBrMDGx/jJX0QxuJ/LOfs4tv65YAz/WmvI2zcHkJQvOx0e2o3oP1vwoy2BAtAaC00kI4Na/GYAmB9WhAt9Evtk2r0UZn3XB3RESyRwhJqSx8bLaQJw7WXqt3ZC0Ezexixr/14Ff2iJL4ZJQlJoSymhhY8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EAMeVdbeG7Wt9TkiY1mKVFI2otKLaTmC1uwvoVeFJtB/teSP1WjB5TwaEk/x53QY16dPb/dsHwKynQfLMgWOQvkMEgrlobeKHe5AkAOQncqAUcytnC5/u4IXmfc0+imojI9eHZlwkkxifiWvQXjX6r2XasjurcxuYDMHzdPhSOc=; Message-ID: <404141.1995.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: pXCfn10VM1kTCes.iyOTe.5slo_NFNqEZHzVrHspiqYW2tKHYrvoU7B9gQo37X0Pb_8epoLTDxL6UhwWc6x.N3u8YhVrGz15YaiExHroYSqpyK.ZVX6NuHJlN.4ORYdv4l373BcwadmIIQKFsFWMkmdR5ijteM_hjmR1Xmqm9MhrSeBYGptSe0Y0karAJPPV_ko9xEtouK7GYgbppAw- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <766277.59196.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: michael the redstickman , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <766277.59196.qm@web50003.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: TONIGHT!! 3/7 - Flaming Lotus Girls' Serpent Mother - FREE I was really hoping to get to this last night, but the preschool auction we= nt until 11:30 by which time I was too ill to go anywhere.=0A=0A:(=0A=0A=0A= =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: michael the redstickman =0ATo: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0ASent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 3:= 49:58 PM=0ASubject: [sfraves] BSP: TONIGHT!! 3/7 - Flaming Lotus Girls' Ser= pent Mother - FREE=0A=0A=0AThe Flaming Lotus Girls and The Ambient Mafia pr= esent:=0ASERPENT MOTHER ART RECEPTION * TONIGHT, 03.07.09=0A=0ATonight, o= n Saturday March 7th, the Serpent will light up the Bay in an art opening g= ala reception from 7.00PM-midnight.=0A=0AThere has never been a sculpture l= ike the Serpent Mother. The warmth of her embrace and her coiling design cr= eate an atmospheric space in which over a thousand people can stand. Her 16= 8=E2=80=99 long stainless steel spine coils around the massive space, while= her 20=E2=80=99 long neck and head tower over her audience. The audience t= akes control, however, by directing her movement, raising her hydraulically= - actuated neck and opening her fanged mouth. Full audience participation m= akes each installation a singular experience =E2=80=93 come make it happen.= =0A=0AThis magnificent installation of a 168' skeletal stainless steel snak= e will be on display Saturday March 7th, on Treasure Island. We will open t= he Serpent for a gallery opening from 7 pm until midnight. We hope you will= join us for this fun and free event.=0A=0AMusic provided by The Ambient Ma= fia:=0Aolde nasty vs. peek nasty=0Athe captain vs. harken=0Ashane=0Amino=0A= redstickman=0A=0AAbout the FLG:=0AThe Flaming Lotus Girls are a female-driv= en group of metal artists who design and construct kinetic, mechanical fire= art. Our mission is to create monumental works of interactive art through = a collaborative process. Our vision is to empower women to learn new skills= and become experienced, talented and active artists in their own right.=0A= =0AOur work =E2=80=93 a combination of sculptural arts, kinetics, robotics,= electronics, and fire engineering - is designed collaboratively; made coll= aboratively.=0A=0AWe create interactive large-scale fire installations that= engages viewers and invite them to become part of the art.=0A=0ATONIGHT!! = 3/7/09=0A7pm - Midnight=0A=0A200 California Ave.=0ATreasure Island, SF=0AFR= EE =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A---------------------------------------= ------------------------------=0ATo unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscrib= e@hyperreal.org=0AFor additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.o= rg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150368-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 08 15:43:57 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12400 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Mar 2009 15:43:57 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12384 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 15:43:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236527056; bh=wblKL/EOuR56CST3PakAavoywEXdsihICT1ZcVcHdO8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XEhIXy47Tovdsu1Rggokq4Mc9spA6B1b3UKPmvlOXVLG8MQFfKlq82JaUnJMt0W+52ZfLrt4sZ4nOSIhjgLkd+7YAiT9jWk4ivbps3ORKctTzBlXJFV96Hh5YusmMVOccYleGuTksqxi0K1SPbg88OUNhDev8fM6m78QJl7DHqE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h6EQrjrVvdoVjNK0xoFZbUHLeUCTo87JS+lJiYuFE/S75ct7WSlBIH8o08g9SXCMrQIYc8F3gnzpAtpESPTIJdNYfzOGf1Os0BMvei5kCOA1WiaZ+csqaOs+/3szRCTv/tDajCpv65xcs3NGvs5Z1NrXryT+wU2WJqPHRrznWj8=; Message-ID: <931661.72417.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kBLUKBQVM1lNXP5UBZMoCHR2hk.pulYx_fAHse6_Jx23ItKVD_rac9UvDd02kQnSbRc1PckTu1JC3sfgEdngFltctXLx8wlLySz0pvtja_UJLkAN4q9__6tvLZAIcAuwxzySV0LlTB3TPTYXVQ8NgrNRTllvbn7YK8buH.HgMyx0ibdlJZogFE9X10UOD.Twi5PZ1OflbuZDdpgjPoi1de359peI4rQqhXGBlod_liq9fCY7i0QKDAnErg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <49B20088.7090903@twenty-hz.com> <49B3352E.8040107@defsf.com> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:44:16 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: sean ocean Cc: SFR In-Reply-To: <49B3352E.8040107@defsf.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Simply great music Jeno is playing some crazy shit on 90Hz every Tuesday... Worth tuning in IMO, it won't be whatever you expect. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: sean ocean Cc: SFR Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2009 7:02:06 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Simply great music i like all the heads who keep posting links to sets. this is true SFR spirit. kudos and applause. i'm not going to spam the links to my site but if i come across anything new i will let you all know. lol. sean. John S. Lee wrote: > DJ Jeno's NoiseFromTheVoid sets! Still an amazing DJ after freaking > decades. > > http://www.noisefromthevoid.com/she%20is%20beyondpart1.mp3 > > http://www.noisefromthevoid.com/she%20is%20beyondpart2.mp3 > > Rare stuff, cool mix, must be Jeno! > > -John > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150369-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 08 18:30:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25671 invoked by uid 1103); 8 Mar 2009 18:30:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 25653 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2009 18:30:35 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 18:30:52 +0000 From: Holt Sorenson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20090308183052.GG8803@hsomusic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: The Rhythm Room @ The Endup today March 8th (8pm-4am) I'll be doing a set this evening at from 8pm-9pm. If you hit me up in the next half hour, I'll put you on the guest list (free before 10pm, cover discounted to $10 all night). Lineup: Brian Salazar Mario Dubbz Mike Slim Brian Cabalic Paul Gordon Michelle Sanz Johnny Collective Moi Promo blurb: Although Sunday Sessions is, strategically, placed at the tail end of the weekend, The Endup's newest monthly, THE RHYTHM ROOM, is the most evident way to top off that action packed weekend and a memorable and enlightening way to start off the next work week. Showcasing the bay area's grooviest and most reputable upcoming local djs, THE RHYTHM ROOM promises to offer a night of the catchiest, most innovative and intellectually produced DEEP, FUNKY, SOULFUL, AFRO house music out there triggering an emotion deep in our rhythmic souls making all of us dance like we never have before. Tie your shoes, bring a sweat towel, and call a friend or 3 and join the rest of us! There's friends to be made and music to be introduced. MEET UP @ THE ENDUP for THE RHYTHM ROOM, a Brian Salazar production. Flyer at: http://hsomusic.com/events/ -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150370-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 09 02:17:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76128 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Mar 2009 02:17:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 76110 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2009 02:17:54 -0000 Message-ID: <153458.29733.qm@web1113.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: KeW_l3oy X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 19:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Phillip Mispagel Reply-To: phillip@viberation.com To: SFRaves , otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] oops! Could you spare a minute of your time. :) Hey Mikey,=0A=0ANo problem at all. I placed my vote and hope others will a= lso. =0A=0APlease write back with the results!=0A=0A-Phillip=0A=0A=0A--- O= n Sat, 3/7/09, Other World wrote:=0A=0A> From: O= ther World =0A> Subject: [sfraves] oops! Could yo= u spare a minute of your time. :)=0A> To: "SFRaves" = =0A> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:04 AM=0A> =0A> Hi everyone-=0A> AZEEM= who's an artist on our new record label Oaklyn=0A> Records is in the runni= ng for BET's "Artist Of The=0A> Month".=A0 =0A> He needs as many votes as p= ossible to win this thing and=0A> we'd be grateful for anybody who could th= row him their vote.=0A> It only takes 2 seconds and doesn't require you to = enter any=0A> info or e-mail.=A0 Just click Azeem and submit.=0A> You can a= lso watch his video "Open Em Up" if you haven't=0A> seen it before.=0A> Any= ways thanks so much for any help with this.=A0 ~Mike=0A> Sims=0A> =0A> =0A>= http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/deal/deal_ya_heard.htm??Referrer=3D%7B626= 141E=0A> B-9CF7-463E-92C7-6F31C8698895%7D=0A> =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A> = =0A> ---------------------------------------------------------------------= =0A> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> For addi= tional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A> =0A> =0A> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150371-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 09 04:05:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28998 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Mar 2009 04:05:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28978 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2009 04:05:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20090308230520.aen7pyp4z48880cw@webmail.viberation.com> Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 23:05:20 -0500 From: osby@viberation.com To: phillip@viberation.com Cc: SFRaves , otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com References: <153458.29733.qm@web1113.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <153458.29733.qm@web1113.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] oops! Could you spare a minute of your time. :) he's in the lead!! 56% Peace=3D-> Just Me=3D-> Osby {8O) Quoting Phillip Mispagel : > > Hey Mikey, > > No problem at all. I placed my vote and hope others will also. > > Please write back with the results! > > -Phillip > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Other World wrote: > >> From: Other World >> Subject: [sfraves] oops! Could you spare a minute of your time. :) >> To: "SFRaves" >> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:04 AM >> >> Hi everyone- >> AZEEM who's an artist on our new record label Oaklyn >> Records is in the running for BET's "Artist Of The >> Month".=A0 >> He needs as many votes as possible to win this thing and >> we'd be grateful for anybody who could throw him their vote. >> It only takes 2 seconds and doesn't require you to enter any >> info or e-mail.=A0 Just click Azeem and submit. >> You can also watch his video "Open Em Up" if you haven't >> seen it before. >> Anyways thanks so much for any help with this.=A0 ~Mike >> Sims >> >> >> http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/deal/deal_ya_heard.htm??Referrer=3D%7B62= 6141E >> B-9CF7-463E-92C7-6F31C8698895%7D >> >> >> =A0 =A0 =A0 >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150372-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 09 07:29:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36738 invoked by uid 1103); 9 Mar 2009 07:29:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 36721 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2009 07:29:53 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 07:30 +0000 From: "Holt Sorenson" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Mail::SendEasy/1.2 Perl/5.010000-linux Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20090309073008.3E665F8430@bit.tuplemovers.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: stevian and dru deep =50=6C=65=61=73=65 =74=75=6E=65 =69=6E =74=6F =4B=5A=53=55 =62=79 =6C=69=73= =74=65=6E=69=6E=67 =74=6F =39=30=2E=31 =69=6E =74=68=65 =42=61=79 =41=72=65= =61 =6F=72 =70=6F=69=6E=74=69=6E=67 =79=6F=75=72 =77=65=62 =62=72=6F=77=73=65=72 =74= =6F =68=74=74=70=3A=2F=2F=6B=7A=73=75=6C=69=76=65=2E=73=74=61=6E=66=6F=72= =64=2E=65=64=75=2E =49=66 =79=6F=75=27=72=65 =69=6E=74=65=72=65=73=74=65=64 =69=6E =67=75=65= =73=74 =61=70=70=65=61=72=69=6E=67 =6F=6E =61=6E=79 =6F=66 =6F=75=72 =73=68= =6F=77=73 =6F=72 =68=61=76=69=6E=67 =61 =6D=69=78 =66=65=61=74=75=72=65=64 =63=6F=6E= =74=61=63=74 =75=73 =75=73=69=6E=67 =6F=75=72 =65=6D=61=69=6C =61=64=64=72= =65=73=73=65=73 =6F=72=3A =65=6C=65=63=74=72=6F=6E=69=63=61=64=6A=73=40=6B=7A=73=75=2E=73= =74=61=6E=66=6F=72=64=2E=65=64=75 =42=69=67 =4C=6F=76=65 =53=68=6F=77 =77=69=74=68 =4A=61=63=6B - 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Could you spare a minute of your time. :) I really like the track, glad to cast a vote for Azeem. And yeah, he's kicking ass so far... Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: "osby@viberation.com" To: phillip@viberation.com Cc: SFRaves ; otherworld_sfr@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 9:05:20 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] oops! Could you spare a minute of your time. :) he's in the lead!! 56% Peace=-> Just Me=-> Osby {8O) Quoting Phillip Mispagel : > > Hey Mikey, > > No problem at all. I placed my vote and hope others will also. > > Please write back with the results! > > -Phillip > > > --- On Sat, 3/7/09, Other World wrote: > >> From: Other World >> Subject: [sfraves] oops! Could you spare a minute of your time. :) >> To: "SFRaves" >> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 3:04 AM >> >> Hi everyone- >> AZEEM who's an artist on our new record label Oaklyn >> Records is in the running for BET's "Artist Of The >> Month". >> He needs as many votes as possible to win this thing and >> we'd be grateful for anybody who could throw him their vote. >> It only takes 2 seconds and doesn't require you to enter any >> info or e-mail. Just click Azeem and submit. >> You can also watch his video "Open Em Up" if you haven't >> seen it before. >> Anyways thanks so much for any help with this. ~Mike >> Sims >> >> >> http://www.bet.com/OnTV/BETShows/deal/deal_ya_heard.htm??Referrer=%7B626141E >> B-9CF7-463E-92C7-6F31C8698895%7D >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150374-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 10 20:24:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78963 invoked by uid 1103); 10 Mar 2009 20:24:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78937 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2009 20:24:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 161818.59015.bm@omp408.mail.mud.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: dH9838oVM1lsqCpsSPLWLdTXWOE3JTsL95xDGAL_UtU83DzP__kcawYO5YqGFeanvpOcWGT4o7eHy3h8ZQhlljVhB4w11y6tpoIy63YuynXsOXzpCHYNgqOzDNNzaDDjDYEmd103XrELmKF6NcCC4kIIPKXLE.aP6To4Mw2JBIogMsABBqan70biUSkeFw0z_9vBA2sjf3Jrn_UkjkVelZjhNxkm9Y9NT24TsP2rppgmGbE- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Andrew Phelan" To: "'The Twilight Laser Outpost \(West\)'" Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 13:24:17 -0700 Message-ID: <002601c9a1be$3022b950$6402a8c0@apo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acmhvi+ftuTYR3/RSVC2jL0571KP/w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Green House this Saturday feat. Jeno info line: 415-756-3388 SFHouseMusic.com and Nonstop present: Green House Why wait until St. Patty's day to go green?! Get your green on and take a journey into the green house! Don't miss some of San Francisco's finest DJ's, as they cultivate only the freshest organic beats. The best part is, you can bring some of the harvest home with you. Anyone wearing green will get a free mix CD! Very large SOMA loft open for a good time from 10pm-6am. (21+) Growing the love with DJs: JENO (Wicked, Noise from the void) Andrew Phelan & Origami (Prismatic, drop music) Homero Espinosa (YBD) Deron (Stompy) Dev E (Nonstop) O'Henry (Stirty beats) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150375-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 03:19:56 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12326 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 03:19:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12308 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 03:19:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:mime-version :subject:date; bh=KAX6HgYRGplGCFT1kLLSwKRtECQaujODGStPo8CXOtU=; b=gObJ3Kl2K4ZB3ccKWRY1F1B3bKNUpF4qheXX5PnOgRfFQL7UwlZCnO2/6L23zXV1wJ cAlwZ9fyec7Pd4cSivz0cZPq9+9ttkJ0dpV//6MKfL318wAyX+t2Fcj87Chv71hqfVR+ 79eCiSB/qSNE5wZ7r8dfMzpEDIreUhnHgOrbI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer :mime-version:subject:date; b=bS14rAUFGW9p1OvgTL9YeBxLli1g3drQn1ctVUNlgXDhdsvt6g6Xc5d4zpFzg7G8fq kfTWy9sjb5z+c41l8J0ZYQTTL8hiRNJ/+8Bok25lC8fv2iQzpiTSJJz6GAXUNXVLqK7C rJPtzVqQsCQjr/OmplVxIUwt4YmwrDm/D18N0= Message-Id: From: Danielle Dozoretz To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5H11) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5H11) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:20:09 -0700 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Full moon gathering? I know the general area, anyone have more details or the info line? TIA, ~juju Sent from my iPhone --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150376-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 19:41:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96291 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 19:41:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96274 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 19:41:58 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 851559.44927.bm@omp208.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236800537; bh=8aRK3gbhlwJ3bDL5ysmdmVjbUSOTgqm6h6hHxnEqvcw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AE7EwUGNVdSi6avIDnnmEGzS06Zl2ky9W+fLFlzvWPs80U+xWCHZl6gYYutRcgTPvedOsvxWw1zXoRvlGASDzF/wtTSg/xAxM179MoSqB6gCy+b73XDRBtYh+NK0bPE/Oo2oxAHFwOa04n0NIfyAZSz7L9VGAhVJ6TPPsmVUqgw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MKFQhbxTZYvjKyIZS3nX0YQb4YNaYf7R/Gh8HgRRyeb80DiZ42aWGAPPd+mf4NoEgUPAnlrST8ItLvsoxmhZDh012hxB9aukbYKiasYwCHSSW83rfFCRcrPmTrDR8REv3uHvrHRvrva/zh2a/ponIgwOZxwZx8k1UejOi7m3180=; Message-ID: <628421.74430.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OizNxB8VM1kw.ZrDF65G7ETi31yHQbzYi7q0Fr1a5J7T.cm.v7anyj7MkOUGAGbuZQBRiRKHV8D7LZZ_L.BJgf_9KVdxh62BkSjE.F.4uQ.lKjmcl9yAOj5HpX84uFz40GxthfMjnEU67X1RZ9I9y9DWikilw..AtqvhrsqzDfHK.z4gZg.C6g1plorj0Y8aL3qO0Yo8TH5f1C8Wv8tSnI37Be8- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:42:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simcovich-Hayden To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2059389875-1236800537=:74430" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Anyone going to Pisces this weekend? --0-2059389875-1236800537=:74430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pisces is on Saturday. Is anyone going to this? =A0 -Paulewog=0A=0A=0A --0-2059389875-1236800537=:74430-- From sfraves-return-150377-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 19:44:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98216 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 19:44:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 98198 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 19:44:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 132611.86676.bm@omp408.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236800686; bh=l+jYxloybiWvhvRKo+LE/Pdx/YvfgG8D25TsI24LVQo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aPUtnOmaMgAxFIp3j/uvwfANu2FI32VolHQp8HERlcrTGFDErft76PIP+56A7J3TDTsNc0pDOQMsbR2QqgmPKoM4hthiU5c4lb/DSrFdKUdsEp8lNBNAEzaNHZrw9Qyfl5bdGhMKXHxzXedBJ1zqaAveA0NXssxgkJxRdtRXNZc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2oK1vjga/BRPt7gVkIiIxhw6vC+aImFCPIY/bLR4r8VrrEgLg8/8U9Pu/IKcm0QdLw/Ks+JGImemRyOKdut1qH2ZwcEjIgYA3GYvep43tYDsmClqPAs14PCfdRsJlAkCXF6kvnUB29SIZDnkqoGrzkTUZvZ5plhWgNqTin/dKeg=; Message-ID: <775879.75757.qm@web44807.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EuXZLaQVM1km5X4IgEv6pD2CdRSWcG7jr.fK5V.iqTdqVze9AAjtPPk8zcAPSZnDmUmULFgpcX.3kqL5k5te6PdCOsf7EkThKuyGeVErhVHxUriGCJI.zl4p7F12iVawJqpB68cICPj_gEOoCuiAawYIywucFr2BhG3p5Cqzun1QWL_UrFTUtt6v5h.gKCO9bx5uJDMQVBaO9KEVnBlbBo1LkMw- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:44:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simcovich-Hayden To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-541717215-1236800686=:75757" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Anyone going to Spundae to see Christopher Lawrence? --0-541717215-1236800686=:75757 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone going to Spundae to see Christopher Lawrence on Friday 3/13 =A0 -Paulewog=0A=0A=0A --0-541717215-1236800686=:75757-- From sfraves-return-150378-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 19:46:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1308 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 19:46:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1289 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 19:46:10 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 911365.12565.bm@omp209.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236800790; bh=IDGsnGeSKujOBdMi5X6ZQAaNN31Xj7+Bt3uMotVKqbQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2ShCo2kOwCGLdfK1KBjNFDTnawB1yyq5Im9X5EueLTDjBuolZnLi/TI480wF92uMFgutJheLN4ir76tbkqliJyuAUzK7YXlwSQJJxN/s38k21iKms2tkQsQBXBXr0JY+5+t4rzHMhnljOw5BIEOmjTGNZjvJDlf6OV0YElEPRgE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qiT5sHzVxvkhqnW1T0ZPC1SUd18AhHoIrTY3Qn5YYFw07ce6X/FuMh5sbpznWFcDY5gForyuoU/3woa3Fw97LCJXPzN/Txa3GenWV36kuiPiPguYU3i5sAGBWxdshqx7CS5bH7sACZ6c2HyvFhjSY+7I1SUkttmacXAkjRPw7rs=; Message-ID: <665187.97575.qm@web44801.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QcbVEIcVM1kQ5A7EIpTXk5qyM62pntqfsb0GbkgCXb6uJZUIKmRKbx0Oozb04gaJlQft.nulBTqIKn.We9RrCEz4YsT1Wdoissg0rbquuOvKt5zFCU5PekqYMEcwIFC6zBzjGzld5BwowNGYPnoVvY52Xw0k8b95j98a9up7xL26ImV7Ty1IHnjULumDqh5UB8HzUTUGcOn7h67dbPTIXzqIZeE- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Simcovich-Hayden To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1772617744-1236800790=:97575" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Is anyone going to 1015 to see Jon O'bir on Friday the 13th? --0-1772617744-1236800790=:97575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jon O'bir is at 1015 on Friday the 13th? Is anyone going to this? =A0 Paulewog-=0A=0A=0A --0-1772617744-1236800790=:97575-- From sfraves-return-150379-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 21:24:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3981 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 21:24:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 3959 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 21:24:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236806694; bh=a0fNujZ0wIe721OezqKgHj8lAEFf5gM7Ag4YZj9cvzE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5SQSv1zXPlYJii+V+6I+Qaor1LD+9wA8hFOu3xvJQsN62eM3QyXJ39y5+dEuCAQ4m31N8gbt7EdgbpjRTc8Kvw6BEWhx+i1Ho1jxCsXF9NKOY0Qs6uwifOesR1VOUmlaImobxWcl+e1yzHkrzUWCZhaXxQCS/hUbqVO0P3Yo4iw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BXPOFh556exOd2fZnx1Gju7Xxl1JX6zH178LOFYofJmN5FxQWfQnD9bYOcfm/b2W38rnJzvZzfAzNmZb4p1TdG0a5m16kujsKxHZJ3/r9nFhJAteLLyHjgUmm6b+NQxA+pl3pGGpjbilaIsn4ni+oiFisCNoOwGw85bcKTov09M=; Message-ID: <812708.11865.qm@web31801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6D2rI4wVM1mDzg3LuTyJLCC9Q5G4jbw4r8offDhDSCmSBBipZQiDrtaZwGX_zLz8Y3CcKMnzwaqic2WfERoBhyKX5K4CuG.yGc2Bh87eE2CHBzQZgsgP6wZDB1TJ9a5ehbolm.tuU8hb1AcV5p8Us7np_zNGV3g6CuAl2lGsPY.eSO2U4eBv73uRAXDlf_n.iUBkAeI8fSEtLp_YMDJNxs55pf1zUSuNc_Rx2AclXHt2oA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:24:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Layla Lewis To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1823074707-1236806694=:11865" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP- Pufuchu Says: The Weekend Starts Here --0-1823074707-1236806694=:11865 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii yes, it really does. not only does the weekend start now (well, in a couple hours) there are sooooo many things to choose from that, well, this might get a little long. so skipping the usual witty intro and getting right down to it! Wednesday Mar 11th when i said now i meant it! happy hour with the false profit family! and celebrating the victory of brainchief! pizza, cheap beer ($3 red stripe) and good beats! EQUITY Il Pirate (16th @ Utah) 6pm-9pm free DJ Daps Ganucheau and if you thought i was kidding, i meant it when i said the weekend starts now! check this out! Glimmer of Dope and Connected Grooves present: DEEPCHILD Nikola Baytala Mr. Projectile Mozaic Jared F 103 Harriet (alley by Folsom @ 6th) 10pm - 3:30 am $10 / $5 b4 11pm with RSVP @ www.going.com/deepchild there are a few other events tonight but if you're on facebook you already have a gazillion invites for them! Thursday Mar 12th you'd think that just maybe since it seems everyone is doin an event on wednesday this week that thursday would be a no-brainer, but NO! i haven't seen MILK yet and they're showing it for free at the SF Green Party HQ at 7pm so i might start my night there. otherwise, yup, out of the gazillion things to choose from i recommend these two: TRANSPORTED bus stop gallery 135 Dore unit C. (btw. 9th and 10th @ Folsom) 8pm-12am $21 (www.brownpapertickets.com/event/58841) Kid Kameleon Space Invader Little John i know the ticket price seems steep for a thursday but the bus is the bomb! and to make up for the cost it's BYOB!!!! so jump on the bus and check out the sites while rockin out with the transported crew! and afterwards, walk over to shine and continue the night! Shameless presents TECHNOCOLOR Shine (Mission @ 9th) 10pm-2am FREE! DJ Icon Dex Stakker Jen Woolfe MC Shahid Buttar yup. it's only thursday and already i feel exhausted! and i thought about telling everyone to take it easy the rest of the weekend and go catch a movie or something, but i don't think that's possible really. Friday Mar 13th i might skip town to go to big mike's birthday but if i stay you might find me at one of these events.... YNOT? NIMBY 8410 Amelia St. Oakland $10 BAM Mozaic Alixr Indigo Boychaos Raydeus Sparkinzi and the Ambient Mafia in the side room! come help get Tuffy on the road! 2 rooms of music and the line-up is sick AND an area for fire-dancers? if you were disappointd at the lack of flames at carl cox come check this out! and because party hoppin is always fun, here's another east bay event! ORISHAS 5306 Foothill Blvd. Oakland 9pm-6am $15 in honor of the spirits... Stereographic LIVE Parus Dr. Spook Nicolo God Intoxicated Chloro Djinn Satir Arwin i know it's psytrance so it's probably a surprise to see it on my list but i do enjoy it quite a bit sometimes, and i figure since so often we wind up hearing the same music from the same djs it might be time to try something new! exhausted yet? i am. with that in mind, i'm gonna wrap it up. go see a movie, have a dinner party, maybe even get a good nights sleep. when was the last time that happened on the weekend? maybe someone will be inspired by a sunny sunday! see you all on the dancefloor! peace love and beats- pufuchu --0-1823074707-1236806694=:11865-- From sfraves-return-150380-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 21:29:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8719 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 21:29:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8700 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 21:29:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=ljgT6Vq7r1aS7Dqhxj9Yze0JyQ2z0tkWiJ3ncTGxGCE=; b=xD3+K4DDI93twwsjqBkJAYSF/fLGZxFIirMCjX1//b0kenVUpAFF0jEaCYsFiDsEUN rQ4a8fA7yu8FO5WFnV3NqRCBKB+DYvsl7xrPEiuPTwMPh8JzEjq7sd8ACaYUMMcqQXHJ Ggqu1Y2FOc2koiOB+QBGx7uEMo35Zkcx8KNR0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; b=EWKIJO4MFCSEPCiQ3PSG+w//FzY3giXFzrSggWUW0S0LzgYWTIqXBnAmYIdiE7Dg8e 5Lu8s+HJGMQxQBkzl0YXjEUb1Z8ERD/cY4P5GW3s6inQclCfzgmsP0Sq2CT3/BGq0qnb e3hqetZ4ajsoodinlfRcBz07aCFxmlukoYQLA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:29:28 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ben Haus Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015174ff5d6006b0c0464de9004 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Full moon gathering? --0015174ff5d6006b0c0464de9004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry ya missed it! It was in GG Park, going really well, til around 4am when the SFPD showed up and surrounded us, kind of a joke for them cuz they let everyone go. Stay tuned for next month! On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Danielle Dozoretz wrote: > I know the general area, anyone have more details or the info line? > > TIA, > > ~juju > > Sent from my iPhone > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --0015174ff5d6006b0c0464de9004-- From sfraves-return-150381-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 22:37:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52315 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 22:37:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52298 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 22:37:24 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=EO/IXlWdkVM4IFL/wD4abxrGS81s7tGb5A+duiXxLyM=; b=IAHVgK6B5tDOfmyd7N9r069HTaythkdvGhPndNvOzqoW2aPxekzXeLnGCurM86JTVa GR1iOEDjiy+CeqV2WikWBnhea77Ghd3sk1zylpi2S0Fxuo2TjjRnNTPLAy7x9A99gH0J 3v6IWwKwtHdACMdHVXW6b4C3S9vkF8jyXQB4k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OMC5xbe0ROIaSyRDpp3Bnw/ajlZYTE09ZX/2zUhAhAFc5eQtyRSdF25MIWdMOFdSed /yOa2ectqxa1zK77Op9Djv3xUx0SttrLvA17FgO1kM1FBJMPugJTPur3iL9/YwopqNY0 4i+IB55N5+OvuIhCcbbUX1U/HgIM9MmNv02AQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:37:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3962ab980903111537l450598a8g258ca6514c8162f5@mail.gmail.com> From: Rock It Science To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1130a18e3760464df840e X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] DJ Fame debut @ Temple this Friday - Free b4 12 list inside --000e0cd1130a18e3760464df840e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable *Friday, March 13th* 10 PM - 4 AM 21+ Rock It Science presents: *DJ Fame (NYC - Dubsided, Potty Mouth Music)* DJ Fame is an instrumental artist redefining house music for the 21st century, with releases on Switch & Jesse Rose=92s Dubsided imprint, Chicago= =92s Potty Mouth Music and many more. His energetic performances showcase seriou= s technical ability combined with intense cuts, crazy loops, and other turntablist tricks to bring a new style and sound to the dance floor. This illuminating stage presence and a rightfully-earned air of confidence sets him apart from so many peers and makes him truly one of the hottest young talents on the dance scene. Don=92t miss his debut performance at Temple! *Shrine:* DJ Fame (Dubsided, Potty Mouth) Eric Sharp (Rock It Science) Goldsweat DJs (Loco vs Belly Up) * Destiny Lounge:* DJ Fortune (Milwaukee - For U Events) Homero Espinosa (Yerba Buena Discos) * Catacombs: * Tone (Temple) Von (djvon.com) *Free before midnight with RSVP to eric@rockitsciencesf.com* Temple Nightclub 540 Howard Street @ 2nd, San Francisco --000e0cd1130a18e3760464df840e-- From sfraves-return-150382-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 11 22:40:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54604 invoked by uid 1103); 11 Mar 2009 22:40:20 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 54585 invoked from network); 11 Mar 2009 22:40:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=mpmMIfs1sNU05jxRe5uN81H/h9KZbzgpgAhOgWXTnoQ=; b=fPq6nfWgEe/b0pNyc77vopqQi6zSsxt0q219zdRhc+5IE/V0+JQVmT2OxQvyDsM+ih Zb6S6fgBZV5CnAzjjqAaTeN/758NAGj2x8SFQCXEZIgvPecKqsyU7IK1mwmdSFvgAQyL 5EkDqojf8jv+QNg6Qr39plj8vQe+BkYbb0rig= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=hFqsMTU6V3V3dubtGj+yP+0B+KjRrtBfL4P7MRKNmUi6mnduOSFa3AFMBSPq0qTVpU bm4HNH6sTawOjB6vByPO81Cn7UTnFdXEYhJerRb7QIqSh9ULBDZpDP0BzamevJDCm3xW rR9a+rt6NyjSPKVdIrF7tGHXGhZlflkFQJJQM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:40:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sean G To: Ben Haus Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Full moon gathering? that party was amazing!! A+ On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ben Haus wrote: > Sorry ya missed it! =A0It was in GG Park, going really well, til around 4= am > when the SFPD showed up and surrounded us, kind of a joke for them cuz th= ey > let everyone go. =A0Stay tuned for next month! > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Danielle Dozoretz wrote: > >> I know the general area, anyone have more details or the info line? >> >> TIA, >> >> ~juju >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > --=20 kekekekeke =3D[^.^]=3D zomg!!111 kekekekeke This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. 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Thank you for your cooperation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150383-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 00:42:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43389 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 00:42:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43371 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 00:42:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236818546; bh=d11AxlPoh3WTKhz4LLTIsPV5PiX6JFADirqLjePsZLs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Pgk/+2JHLtpti1pL8yNmMBDKm2OVYN0PvhuX6CwnuZgVWdWFFc/VzY7ttcYezs0xbkM04ETicND9g21u70cL3+oFIZBQw+9MZDLlmJRcrIJQAJbqdGBS4KPEnBxVqxdbX0Tj/Q0aKxKUPOi+nApA7Or6dQBj1w7a/b6SwDZCS9M= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SV8iwjkyKLclYLGn/ia2LaVtN/4m/CLgtouAQXTDT1mY/WLtDe1Y7vTnMeZv+M1Mspn5gdODF9nqLl332vBUZ1F9mpp+xHDDpYLUbb80hx4uvI7BVVl5GXR/ohm3v1Z6oad4FzS88jUFPcMryv/DPOeTyCFrS4A09X+8bmDMPa8=; Message-ID: <535577.8715.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1GH1c24VM1k5RoZ9ZRZfQNhoRKOVWruVPNlmiCLrq6MhS.xZThox1b8fTPRpPxVBk5DZgbDbf5aEOVTCML58quGSXXLqj98NdBRcLA0U.zhwQK8wEKm9XF_ZZdbgmgNLuf_GUlx2jyDR3VjPjQEGR3XHTUCS_WhxsLkt_fOEQluXbmTLN3f.5HTLbwPblUPRP05gJOP27xyx36rP2wg- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Sean G , Ben Haus Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Full moon gathering? Nice one... AT FTW! ----- Original Message ---- From: Sean G To: Ben Haus Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 3:40:39 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Full moon gathering? that party was amazing!! A+ On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ben Haus wrote: > Sorry ya missed it! It was in GG Park, going really well, til around 4am > when the SFPD showed up and surrounded us, kind of a joke for them cuz they > let everyone go. Stay tuned for next month! > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Danielle Dozoretz wrote: > >> I know the general area, anyone have more details or the info line? >> >> TIA, >> >> ~juju >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > -- kekekekeke =[^.^]= zomg!!111 kekekekeke This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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Thank you for your cooperation. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150384-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 05:20:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30986 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 05:20:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 30962 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 05:20:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hwTJG1E9zhLo2bDZ++lcnYlic8Kouy/oVcowPp+5M7E=; b=mIhRzmh/Wl94L9b6Jp5NLmyIJb9IhIleRt0ikQpV3DBQhpVGOay1fwhWTtXizLuUbQ CIH9FIGez21Iplv7EUJeHOMn3JDj9nf56MaRb3jZeE08PPW16DMzBToIHyOOL6/r/p7a yfvkpVjEJ1dFQaPkTkyX/aXoWCjKKilKzt1rA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QnkZfARVLYfhSZmYW9TxWUaGVKDrGn3cM7H/Gcie1pTu7dFobTLk14A6hBurEvRnX/ ox/49rqK2p0hJKgX5cXy6bEqay0UT8J41edaA6UufKcq2b4Bqs0RUbBiNA8zb11QwTZ0 K7ZN75llMrshLgKeYBTHmFH8yueZvmuIH7WvI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:20:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: juju To: Ben Haus Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd519bc1221ec0464e5267c X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Full moon gathering? --000e0cd519bc1221ec0464e5267c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went and had a great time! I actually had a friend hook me up with the info, and got there around 12:30. I mostly stayed to the left of the front speakers, and was wearing a blue furry polar panda hat. I guess we timed our departure appropriately, since we left around 3:45am and yay, missed tha fuzz. ~juju On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Ben Haus wrote: > Sorry ya missed it! It was in GG Park, going really well, til around 4am > when the SFPD showed up and surrounded us, kind of a joke for them cuz they > let everyone go. Stay tuned for next month! > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Danielle Dozoretz >wrote: > > > I know the general area, anyone have more details or the info line? > > > > TIA, > > > > ~juju > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > --000e0cd519bc1221ec0464e5267c-- From sfraves-return-150385-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 10:51:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1304 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 10:51:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1278 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 10:51:47 -0000 References: <665187.97575.qm@web44801.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> To: paulewogsf@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 06:46:57 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 71.146.86.181 In-Reply-To: <665187.97575.qm@web44801.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: djhil2sf@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB7117001CE521_AEC_6541_webmail-de10.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41757-STANDARD Message-Id: <8CB711700182067-AEC-3288@webmail-de10.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Is anyone going to 1015 to see Jon O'bir on Friday the 13th? ----------MB_8CB7117001CE521_AEC_6541_webmail-de10.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Of Course!=) -----Original Message----- From: Paul Simcovich-Hayden To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 12:46 pm Subject: [sfraves] Is anyone going to 1015 to see Jon O'bir on Friday the 13th? Jon O'bir is at 1015 on Friday the 13th? Is anyone going to this? ? Paulewog- ----------MB_8CB7117001CE521_AEC_6541_webmail-de10.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150386-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 18:28:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59799 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 18:28:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59778 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 18:28:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236882524; bh=+jTDX9+HvKIuRNxb/2rBSmWNitF3EkWU/kPAhguOp3w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pgGUJ+9ucElxFGZh3lwRQoI0EjS2FYFvvvXPnrARIF+zFnRCfC78IWzQ5+E+raH8rL1VPDrRhJ6G3Mfu4uoIpCusi+ryWH4eeLiwEDSc34kQDl0Vu/U/TgmGi/RK2F/1Rhfp7i1bNrTdIZEA6Mf7j7SNt16tK++Jnuayb9kOQCU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ELeMyTaEu62F6QFSg3Ql0l/rAag11xyGrx5rxsBnBZDtINturS/YLytZq4Z/wGSAVNitO6qoyMwGNTDpgYv1Fdk1MdlWF93Pu64yt/HxHoiJJS5QD5TXOQ2slNZ2LlL28Z3JubT4TfAVA/skpv0eaoj9K419c1Go1JAnt5aNPfI=; Message-ID: <659058.79839.qm@web50010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jHn9QdgVM1le703NcbBsFb5.jyNIY1aIWMpcW9M4CQdtJ87EhWfKeX2Xs5YiOfpGNy7TiLUJdzP2QYCYCfzcj9IEU7PxQfR8LXRiJlw1cQoOtfr1yJIhHGUoWSCgSjapMFTtKM9o7AaPDLN_W6qcA8e.lV5MbbSIWyhctLQRVd4JJ2W9NdLisDWkW.S_XZzFlfsKlFyyZOZcfjTxJbp.5MaWgmVFq76M8bg- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! For those of you planning on staying in the 510 this Friday night there's a killer party going down at the new NIMBY warehouse in Oakland. Deets below. Friday (TOMORROW) March 13th... Tuffy is going on a Great Adventure and to make sure she can get on the road we are throwing her a benefit at NIMBY. www.nimbyspace.org 2 music rooms and an outdoor fire spinning / dancing / hooping area. BAM (Evil Breaks) MOZAIC (Raindance) ALIXR (Pulse/FnF) INDIGO (FnF) RAYDEUS (Pronoia/Raydeus.com) SPARKINZI (Sparkdoo.dz) and THE AMBIENT MAFIA will be running the downtempo room/hookah lounge. CUMULUS (WoM) CUBIK Y ORIGAMI (Dinner Party) WE ARE NOT PANDAS (WanP) SQUELCHY (Vocoid) OLDE NASTY (Butterzone) THE CAPTAIN (Chill Syndicate) and special guest, BOYCHAOS (Underworld) Visuals provided by Heroic Robot and SICK sound by Know Audio and Def Audio. Tuffy is no music slouch so be prepared to dance your pants off. Everyone and your mother is coming, so YNOT you? ---------------------------------------------------- www.redstickman.com blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150387-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 20:56:20 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6936 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 20:56:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6841 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 20:56:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236891398; bh=HGiOspjn1UlGOFbVHpH08LFSgZRSOV4wE+aUQP5vYiA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nSepdeyl3Gcq+KY/pSR6dN6R65QVqZw0YvJW/NZxmrG+jy5flFokZQTHe6+eaRba6pGRiwrrMdMWzz7e3IO7m+jhphhbKBuLlGECDzP1JKk0kinsy+HgjRRANifDE3Yp4yACZfWMhU3GdvltmDQ96kfBx4rXdfsP5dDJiVnTqnY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iB2mQ27NULmcvbNt9R6XBHR8zAdR+OlTxztvi9O5qcfaZ3eDgcXVtDYf0sAFtMz4Em4c3BVpqJ9KwW1CBnmqkYqhgKmtQ9z0sxwZ5KoS0QrVknsGTbh6cCISVpOrsZ6mtK8Lekrw0szMmnrok0AJUm7FjBvLdIAgwAei5CkCgys=; Message-ID: <736078.56583.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nfK0GhAVM1nVMkAEGOGFwuWeqADDyCse.ZNp.gVjI0B2SeTQVA1qU819gp9PJbeYUkNLmrAMAbe1NrM69Zc5JMW97o1C7vvMMjkfeySdVtwRkeJfp.CtYTXd0zPg5YnKsm8.gcU0in7T0DrtKcHW6D5OAhIxXu9jpfwRejVbOYGKaTIlaUktPTa3FLVK_YWFVQF7e3GftoRxRo9gNlDi X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:56:38 -0700 (PDT) From: mary madesky Reply-To: chefmary261@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, michael the redstickman In-Reply-To: <659058.79839.qm@web50010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! My friends & I help run this space so please respect it. This space is a cool Burning Man artists' warehouse so please be quiet and un-shady so the cops don't show up. Also this is ending striclty at 3am. --- On Thu, 3/12/09, michael the redstickman wrote: > From: michael the redstickman > Subject: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:28 AM > For those of you planning on staying in the 510 this Friday > night there's a killer party going down at the new NIMBY > warehouse in Oakland. Deets below. > > Friday (TOMORROW) March 13th... > > Tuffy is going on a Great Adventure and to make sure she > can get on the road we are throwing her a benefit at NIMBY. > > www.nimbyspace.org > > > 2 music rooms and an outdoor fire spinning / dancing / > hooping area. > BAM (Evil Breaks) > MOZAIC (Raindance) > ALIXR (Pulse/FnF) > INDIGO (FnF) > RAYDEUS (Pronoia/Raydeus.com) > SPARKINZI (Sparkdoo.dz) > > and > THE AMBIENT MAFIA will be running the downtempo room/hookah > lounge. > > CUMULUS (WoM) > CUBIK Y ORIGAMI (Dinner Party) > WE ARE NOT PANDAS (WanP) > SQUELCHY (Vocoid) > OLDE NASTY (Butterzone) > THE CAPTAIN (Chill Syndicate) > and special guest, BOYCHAOS (Underworld) > > Visuals provided by Heroic Robot and SICK sound by Know > Audio and Def Audio. > > Tuffy is no music slouch so be prepared to dance your pants > off. Everyone and your mother is coming, so YNOT you? > > ---------------------------------------------------- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150388-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 21:01:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12557 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 21:01:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12539 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 21:01:29 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236891708; bh=fXVGRewizhDcBfw+jro8vOtPnsc2FpG5rZaWMJ7nOOA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I1UY356BlyxmdbkPfYZRnQgvW7Ivpp/0jbGqUb9ogKYiwoahpYm9qw34qQvIbyklfSZqUTJSb4Uyfk5aWPtKcri6yKq9jNcFl4nAQGB+t/CecByorKz0T0Nl5rCFfGaeCNI1iiwmKZnw8XHWSgIddbPO57RxEGM+8aduR3T4RF0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZmjZVw3OCdlPiPjNPlnMSAqNFlQB3csOyB+fMCmWp5BLegUadHo0XG2U6BQa2CFRfE+VElweNr36Z6KbECVDrvj2rDm+7IY+IBXjUddAPfs3WQtlu/guYzW4tPYrsjryi0oH/ibe3aBMWXmYJLdEWBO0/d+I0ZGMGnPgWG+bXeU=; Message-ID: <879895.86469.qm@web50005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5oyETtkVM1lxxGrKDrOTrjdO0MDBNXr_NdgsuZ_0pol26N7ez6t7H47J6YJWeUulsCKUTT8SI8r0tH_k3fXbQjv_PZSb5qOTXZaKDXG2kBG5F_jp1UfNno0KHDQ7ojYBg_y59DKm4u5WTG4WyjwVUlx_kZ9oIWlmkKJ5._KZk9TIrleikr1NjfFh.0CHSro29G6m2_dhgTww_rfLCgecDTKfmvZEtQFubQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, chefmary261@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <736078.56583.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! Sorry - I just cut/pasted the details. Party starts at 8pm, ends at 3am. --- On Thu, 3/12/09, mary madesky wrote: > From: mary madesky > Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "michael the redstickman" > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 1:56 PM > My friends & I help run this space so please respect it. > This space is a cool Burning Man artists' warehouse so > please be quiet and un-shady so the cops don't show up. > > Also this is ending striclty at 3am. > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, michael the redstickman > wrote: > > > From: michael the redstickman > > > Subject: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:28 AM > > For those of you planning on staying in the 510 this > Friday > > night there's a killer party going down at the new > NIMBY > > warehouse in Oakland. Deets below. > > > > Friday (TOMORROW) March 13th... > > > > Tuffy is going on a Great Adventure and to make sure > she > > can get on the road we are throwing her a benefit at > NIMBY. > > > > www.nimbyspace.org > > > > > > 2 music rooms and an outdoor fire spinning / dancing / > > hooping area. > > BAM (Evil Breaks) > > MOZAIC (Raindance) > > ALIXR (Pulse/FnF) > > INDIGO (FnF) > > RAYDEUS (Pronoia/Raydeus.com) > > SPARKINZI (Sparkdoo.dz) > > > > and > > THE AMBIENT MAFIA will be running the downtempo > room/hookah > > lounge. > > > > CUMULUS (WoM) > > CUBIK Y ORIGAMI (Dinner Party) > > WE ARE NOT PANDAS (WanP) > > SQUELCHY (Vocoid) > > OLDE NASTY (Butterzone) > > THE CAPTAIN (Chill Syndicate) > > and special guest, BOYCHAOS (Underworld) > > > > Visuals provided by Heroic Robot and SICK sound by > Know > > Audio and Def Audio. > > > > Tuffy is no music slouch so be prepared to dance your > pants > > off. Everyone and your mother is coming, so YNOT you? > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150389-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 21:03:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14886 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 21:03:58 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 14865 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 21:03:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=hGQceQSYmx6NyV3BvRgemvo8qRUdS7SO3TvF3FPZcNg=; b=q2pXpx6BF9B/O9aFSwto/6FXr8ItgfJOPuGw94KTo0gojZY7CHT2FsMt1dLHvxaM5x rODTi0j91i6vR9MIu9NN/QCUzr67HOiH6yG0j/kU/aLOEkh2ExO07DqbRUv2eBuaWl0x pyo4IlJ5GCr8XdmIVpBMGv8iy1MJY4nqXw7AY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=TYmimBN273Ra5MHe+E9EaXcL05WK7HrpwSL0gKPWwN6Mepcz3F5OEuv2+Nna4wEme2 Q/L+kEtkzdZ7S/Y2ChhoaLM3L40BrfST/JL3Ty3OYLwFdTaOzzFdoMNM+1o+tI7j6cQH iwwbzIERN7WNcIyDCEe4DRkfpTZMFmbXhRUvU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <879895.86469.qm@web50005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <736078.56583.qm@web38903.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <879895.86469.qm@web50005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:04:16 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ben Haus To: michael the redstickman Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, chefmary261@yahoo.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e754c951e30464f25307 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! --000e0cd2e754c951e30464f25307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to be un-shady whilst walking in West Oakland after midnight? I have a couple of friends spinning tonight, and it sounds like an awesome party, just wish I didn't have prior engagements! On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 2:01 PM, michael the redstickman < red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Sorry - I just cut/pasted the details. Party starts at 8pm, ends at 3am. > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, mary madesky wrote: > > > From: mary madesky > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "michael the redstickman" < > red_stickman@yahoo.com> > > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 1:56 PM > > My friends & I help run this space so please respect it. > > This space is a cool Burning Man artists' warehouse so > > please be quiet and un-shady so the cops don't show up. > > > > Also this is ending striclty at 3am. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, michael the redstickman > > wrote: > > > > > From: michael the redstickman > > > > > Subject: [sfraves] BSP - YNOT - Tomorrow, 3/13! > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 11:28 AM > > > For those of you planning on staying in the 510 this > > Friday > > > night there's a killer party going down at the new > > NIMBY > > > warehouse in Oakland. Deets below. > > > > > > Friday (TOMORROW) March 13th... > > > > > > Tuffy is going on a Great Adventure and to make sure > > she > > > can get on the road we are throwing her a benefit at > > NIMBY. > > > > > > www.nimbyspace.org > > > > > > > > > 2 music rooms and an outdoor fire spinning / dancing / > > > hooping area. > > > BAM (Evil Breaks) > > > MOZAIC (Raindance) > > > ALIXR (Pulse/FnF) > > > INDIGO (FnF) > > > RAYDEUS (Pronoia/Raydeus.com) > > > SPARKINZI (Sparkdoo.dz) > > > > > > and > > > THE AMBIENT MAFIA will be running the downtempo > > room/hookah > > > lounge. > > > > > > CUMULUS (WoM) > > > CUBIK Y ORIGAMI (Dinner Party) > > > WE ARE NOT PANDAS (WanP) > > > SQUELCHY (Vocoid) > > > OLDE NASTY (Butterzone) > > > THE CAPTAIN (Chill Syndicate) > > > and special guest, BOYCHAOS (Underworld) > > > > > > Visuals provided by Heroic Robot and SICK sound by > > Know > > > Audio and Def Audio. > > > > > > Tuffy is no music slouch so be prepared to dance your > > pants > > > off. Everyone and your mother is coming, so YNOT you? > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd2e754c951e30464f25307-- From sfraves-return-150390-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 23:31:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33203 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 23:31:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33185 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 23:31:10 -0000 Message-ID: <103095.61801.qm@web1107.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: KeW_l3oy X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:31:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Phillip Mispagel Reply-To: phillip@viberation.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Paul Simcovich-Hayden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone going to Pisces this weekend? Yes. I will be there for sure.=0A=0A--- On Wed, 3/11/09, Paul Simcovich-Ha= yden wrote:=0A=0A> From: Paul Simcovich-Hayden =0A> Subject: [sfraves] Anyone going to Pisces this weeken= d?=0A> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0A> Date: Wednesday, March 11, 2009, 12:42= PM=0A> Pisces is on Saturday. Is anyone=0A> going to this?=0A> =A0=0A> -Pa= ulewog=0A> =0A> =0A> =A0 =A0 =A0 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150391-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 12 23:31:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34136 invoked by uid 1103); 12 Mar 2009 23:31:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 34109 invoked from network); 12 Mar 2009 23:31:46 -0000 Message-ID: <43269.99161.qm@web1109.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: KeW_l3oy X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Phillip Mispagel Reply-To: phillip@viberation.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Paul Simcovich-Hayden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone going to Pisces this weekend? http://www.pisces2009.com for party details, btw.=0A=0A=0A=0A--- On Thu, 3/= 12/09, Phillip Mispagel wrote:=0A=0A> From: Philli= p Mispagel =0A> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Anyone going= to Pisces this weekend?=0A> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, "Paul Simcovich-Hay= den" =0A> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 4:31 PM=0A>= =0A> Yes.=A0 I will be there for sure.=0A> =0A> --- On Wed, 3/11/09, Paul = Simcovich-Hayden =0A> wrote:=0A> =0A> > From: Paul Si= mcovich-Hayden =0A> > Subject: [sfraves] Anyone going= to Pisces this=0A> weekend?=0A> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org=0A> > Date: We= dnesday, March 11, 2009, 12:42 PM=0A> > Pisces is on Saturday. Is anyone=0A= > > going to this?=0A> > =A0=0A> > -Paulewog=0A> > =0A> > =0A> > =A0 =A0 = =A0=0A> =0A> --------------------------------------------------------------= -------=0A> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org=0A> F= or additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A> =0A> =0A> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150392-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 13 00:14:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64315 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Mar 2009 00:14:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 64263 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2009 00:14:06 -0000 Message-ID: <620826.47253.qm@web1102.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: KeW_l3oy X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:14:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Phillip Mispagel Reply-To: phillip@viberation.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Sat. 3/14- PISCES 2009 > PISCES 2009 featuring DEEDRAH and HYZER /=0A> Saturday, March 14th, 2009= =0A> =0A> illumination and earwacks present...=0A> PISCES 2009=0A> Saturday= , March 14th, 2009=0A> =0A> featuring an all pisces line-up with special gu= ests...=0A> DEEDRAH=0A> Krome Angels / Synthetic / Solstice Music Internati= onal -=0A> FRANCE=0A> &=0A> HYZER=0A> Vibrasphere / Cloud 99 Music / Tribal= Vision - SWEDEN=0A> =0A> area 1 > the northern fish=0A> KODE IV - ceiba re= cords=0A> KJ - hypnopedia=0A> WICHDOKTA - full circle / geomagnetic=0A> MIC= HAEL LIU / illumination=0A> ROB-OT - vaporvent / psybooty=0A> SAMSON NG - s= ecret psychedelica=0A> APSARA=0A> sound > FULL CIRCLE GEMINI SOUNDSYSTEM=0A= > deco > SATURATED MIND and DREAMTIME=0A> =0A> area 2 > the southern fish= =0A> FOREST GREEN - cute things with fangs / daly city records=0A> CATHARSI= S - egr records=0A> BEN HAUS - acid totem=0A> CARLOS ALFONZO - vibrance=0A>= PHESTON - sonance society=0A> GABRIEL BLACK - get-down / tangible=0A> DRU = DEEP - coa=0A> sound > MISSION ROCK CAFE'S JBL VERTECH SOUNDSYSTEM=0A> deco= > DREAMTIME=0A> =0A> area 3 . the intergalactic garden=0A> MR ROGERS - ooz= e system / intergalactic showdown=0A> BIRD OF PREY - dawn patrol=0A> SATURN= IA - phoenix family=0A> THE DOCTOR - trauma / norcalnights.com / anothaleve= l.com=0A> ARIZE - k12 / nocturnalism / panic39=0A> SECONDBASE - nocturnalis= m=0A> BICOLAS - skills dj workshop=0A> CUBEHEAD - castillo del norte=0A> so= und > STRAYLIGHT SOUNDSYSTEM=0A> deco > OOZE SYSTEM=0A> =0A> special guests= THE FALLEN ANGELS=0A> blacklight body painting SKIN DEEP=0A> =0A> details = >=0A> venue - Mission Rock Cafe, 817 Terry A Francois Blvd, San=0A> Francis= co CA=0A> time - 7pm to 5am=0A> age - 18+ ID required / full bar for 21+=0A= > additional information - www.pisces2009.com / 415.373.3668=0A> =0A> ticke= ts >=0A> $14 Advance tickets are available online at=0A> www.pisces2009.com= or purchase advance retail tickets at=0A> these authorized outlets:=0A> CE= IBA, 1364 Haight St, San Francisco=0A> SKILLS DJ WORKSHOP, 2566A Telegraph = Ave, Berkeley=0A> PARAMOUNT IMPORTS, 455 Meridian Ave, San Jose=0A> =0A> = =0A> forest green:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0http://www.forestgreen.org=0A> fores= t on da my space: http://www.myspace.com/forestgreen=0A> cute things with f= angs: http://www.myspace.com/cutefang=0A> cute fang recordings:=A0 =A0 http= ://www.myspace.com/cutefangrecordings=0A> daly city records:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0=A0http://www.dalycityrecords.com=0A> cloud factory:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0=0A> =A0 http://www.cloudfactory.org=0A> friends and family:=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 http://www.fnf.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150393-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 13 01:20:16 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5722 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Mar 2009 01:20:16 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 5703 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2009 01:20:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <620826.47253.qm@web1102.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> References: <620826.47253.qm@web1102.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:20:35 -0700 Message-ID: <42a0b30f0903121820i10ccb917p595b5927f56e5051@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Sat. 3/14- PISCES 2009 anyone heard anything about start times? Kind of want to catch Bruno Pronsanto, too... -R. On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Phillip Mispagel wrote: > >> PISCES 2009 featuring DEEDRAH and HYZER / >> Saturday, March 14th, 2009 >> >> illumination and earwacks present... >> PISCES 2009 >> Saturday, March 14th, 2009 >> >> featuring an all pisces line-up with special guests... >> DEEDRAH >> Krome Angels / Synthetic / Solstice Music International - >> FRANCE >> & >> HYZER >> Vibrasphere / Cloud 99 Music / Tribal Vision - SWEDEN >> >> area 1 > the northern fish >> KODE IV - ceiba records >> KJ - hypnopedia >> WICHDOKTA - full circle / geomagnetic >> MICHAEL LIU / illumination >> ROB-OT - vaporvent / psybooty >> SAMSON NG - secret psychedelica >> APSARA >> sound > FULL CIRCLE GEMINI SOUNDSYSTEM >> deco > SATURATED MIND and DREAMTIME >> >> area 2 > the southern fish >> FOREST GREEN - cute things with fangs / daly city records >> CATHARSIS - egr records >> BEN HAUS - acid totem >> CARLOS ALFONZO - vibrance >> PHESTON - sonance society >> GABRIEL BLACK - get-down / tangible >> DRU DEEP - coa >> sound > MISSION ROCK CAFE'S JBL VERTECH SOUNDSYSTEM >> deco > DREAMTIME >> >> area 3 . the intergalactic garden >> MR ROGERS - ooze system / intergalactic showdown >> BIRD OF PREY - dawn patrol >> SATURNIA - phoenix family >> THE DOCTOR - trauma / norcalnights.com / anothalevel.com >> ARIZE - k12 / nocturnalism / panic39 >> SECONDBASE - nocturnalism >> BICOLAS - skills dj workshop >> CUBEHEAD - castillo del norte >> sound > STRAYLIGHT SOUNDSYSTEM >> deco > OOZE SYSTEM >> >> special guests THE FALLEN ANGELS >> blacklight body painting SKIN DEEP >> >> details > >> venue - Mission Rock Cafe, 817 Terry A Francois Blvd, San >> Francisco CA >> time - 7pm to 5am >> age - 18+ ID required / full bar for 21+ >> additional information - www.pisces2009.com / 415.373.3668 >> >> tickets > >> $14 Advance tickets are available online at >> www.pisces2009.com or purchase advance retail tickets at >> these authorized outlets: >> CEIBA, 1364 Haight St, San Francisco >> SKILLS DJ WORKSHOP, 2566A Telegraph Ave, Berkeley >> PARAMOUNT IMPORTS, 455 Meridian Ave, San Jose >> >> >> forest green:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0http://www.forestgreen.org >> forest on da my space: http://www.myspace.com/forestgreen >> cute things with fangs: http://www.myspace.com/cutefang >> cute fang recordings:=A0 =A0 http://www.myspace.com/cutefangrecordings >> daly city records:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0http://www.dalycityrecords.com >> cloud factory: >> =A0 http://www.cloudfactory.org >> friends and family:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.fnf.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150394-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 13 06:00:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49904 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Mar 2009 06:00:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49885 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2009 06:00:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1236924045; bh=CUove5zgVwHcT59MONhKcGhcXkdPUd1Mctn3fYlfKs4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sru8jsnqeY1y9mFDaXmEUY7A/CoKegk5TjnevnhCZbwkR4HifUYhq0kciWi2USn+04H4MPEY+6zghNug0U7db1txZEvxBQ1N0BtAgvDYA57Anz9Svu7sMKmrp/9aQ7k+bWtd0mZDuQ+RHaiNMszOiECrpxBpoYkfzq7uXIAailI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I8TOZrsLWgHX3AjwOCoSCuNqSONWxOqmgNKn3kT51RzoSqVyneGKQXUrjju60YkYy5dPQlZy6rnEb8frBjYlz/xU4sCez6GyQsb09+houmrp487bn6lBZwXOLEbajaDW35VSbzgA5QFkGkWhEMw/RfCfnugPorr9Stq/aogq/vs=; Message-ID: <353862.73074.qm@web52009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JXYQ_70VM1nNDzB2LURKWIlnrEQC_yvqfJyOq4hWrtlIFDPB6RVosQtr3cQeACviqS8iLmFHYC35kVfCe6W9bku6eLi7XNCg0pOEvfB3Kh4KaUT6CdTiVFvMJn5Op04RZmBbVkUBEHhkh22d13RIOiysqEgo774iilErKLXbHKanLRBA4H09J4PTWo5iyDP3MEsF38q4eiggOoyXjjqMws8Tn1Xoqp98 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:00:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin James To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1894082273-1236924045=:73074" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Two new mixes, 1 Deep House and 1 Tech House --0-1894082273-1236924045=:73074 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Two new mixes available for download. Not really brand new, but new as in I= never bothered to upload them and post them until now. Both mixes are clos= e to 3 hours long so they are each split into two sections (4 mixes really)= . Yay for six hours of music! lol=0A=0AThe first mix is from 12/27/08 and i= s deep soothing house at its best. This was recorded live on my Faderwave R= adio show as usual. =0A=0AThe second mix is a bit older and was recorded li= ve on Faderwave Radio back on 5/03/08. This one is pure dark and dirty UK s= tyle Tech House in the vein of Evil Eddie Richards, Terry Francis, Gideon J= ackson etc. I saw Terry Francis live at The Gathering in SF this past weeke= nd and he absolutely hammered it. After the show I was still in a Tech Hous= e mood and dug this mix out. Now that I found it I thought I would share it= .=0A=0A=0AFor those interested in checking these mixes out go to my mix pag= e at:=0A=0Awww.musicv2.com/artist/dj_kevin_james=0A=0AEnjoy!=0AKj=0A_______= ___________=0A=0A=A0Dowload my latest mixes here:=0Awww.musicv2.com/artist/= dj_kevin_james=0ANew mix added 3/12/09 =0A=0A=0AWatch me spin live here Sat= urdays 3-5PM PST 6-8 EST=0Awww.stickam.com/faderwaveradio=0A=0A=0ABaba Booe= y!!! =0A=0A=0A --0-1894082273-1236924045=:73074-- From sfraves-return-150395-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 13 20:44:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81420 invoked by uid 1103); 13 Mar 2009 20:44:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81403 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2009 20:44:10 -0000 Message-ID: <370019.10968.qm@web1102.biz.mail.sk1.yahoo.com> X-RocketYMMF: KeW_l3oy X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.260.1 Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 13:44:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Phillip Mispagel Reply-To: phillip@viberation.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, Ray Wong MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Sat. 3/14- PISCES 2009 I think it's on the website. Party starts at 7pm and goes till 5am if I'm = not mistaken. Forest plays 11-12 in the room she's in.=0A=0A--- On Thu, 3/= 12/09, Ray Wong wrote:=0A=0A> From: Ray Wong =0A> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Sat. 3/14- PISCES 2009=0A> To: sfraves@hyperre= al.org=0A> Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 6:20 PM=0A> anyone heard anythin= g about start=0A> times?=A0 Kind of want to catch Bruno=0A> Pronsanto, too.= ..=0A> =0A> -R.=0A> =0A> =0A> On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Phillip Misp= agel=0A> =0A> wrote:=0A> >=0A> >> PISCES 2009 featu= ring DEEDRAH and HYZER /=0A> >> Saturday, March 14th, 2009=0A> >>=0A> >> il= lumination and earwacks present...=0A> >> PISCES 2009=0A> >> Saturday, Marc= h 14th, 2009=0A> >>=0A> >> featuring an all pisces line-up with special=0A>= guests...=0A> >> DEEDRAH=0A> >> Krome Angels / Synthetic / Solstice Music= =0A> International -=0A> >> FRANCE=0A> >> &=0A> >> HYZER=0A> >> Vibrasphere= / Cloud 99 Music / Tribal Vision -=0A> SWEDEN=0A> >>=0A> >> area 1 > the n= orthern fish=0A> >> KODE IV - ceiba records=0A> >> KJ - hypnopedia=0A> >> W= ICHDOKTA - full circle / geomagnetic=0A> >> MICHAEL LIU / illumination=0A> = >> ROB-OT - vaporvent / psybooty=0A> >> SAMSON NG - secret psychedelica=0A>= >> APSARA=0A> >> sound > FULL CIRCLE GEMINI SOUNDSYSTEM=0A> >> deco > SATU= RATED MIND and DREAMTIME=0A> >>=0A> >> area 2 > the southern fish=0A> >> FO= REST GREEN - cute things with fangs / daly city=0A> records=0A> >> CATHARSI= S - egr records=0A> >> BEN HAUS - acid totem=0A> >> CARLOS ALFONZO - vibran= ce=0A> >> PHESTON - sonance society=0A> >> GABRIEL BLACK - get-down / tangi= ble=0A> >> DRU DEEP - coa=0A> >> sound > MISSION ROCK CAFE'S JBL VERTECH=0A= > SOUNDSYSTEM=0A> >> deco > DREAMTIME=0A> >>=0A> >> area 3 . the intergalac= tic garden=0A> >> MR ROGERS - ooze system / intergalactic showdown=0A> >> B= IRD OF PREY - dawn patrol=0A> >> SATURNIA - phoenix family=0A> >> THE DOCTO= R - trauma / norcalnights.com /=0A> anothalevel.com=0A> >> ARIZE - k12 / no= cturnalism / panic39=0A> >> SECONDBASE - nocturnalism=0A> >> BICOLAS - skil= ls dj workshop=0A> >> CUBEHEAD - castillo del norte=0A> >> sound > STRAYLIG= HT SOUNDSYSTEM=0A> >> deco > OOZE SYSTEM=0A> >>=0A> >> special guests THE F= ALLEN ANGELS=0A> >> blacklight body painting SKIN DEEP=0A> >>=0A> >> detail= s >=0A> >> venue - Mission Rock Cafe, 817 Terry A Francois=0A> Blvd, San=0A= > >> Francisco CA=0A> >> time - 7pm to 5am=0A> >> age - 18+ ID required / f= ull bar for 21+=0A> >> additional information - www.pisces2009.com /=0A> 41= 5.373.3668=0A> >>=0A> >> tickets >=0A> >> $14 Advance tickets are available= online at=0A> >> www.pisces2009.com or purchase advance retail=0A> tickets= at=0A> >> these authorized outlets:=0A> >> CEIBA, 1364 Haight St, San Fran= cisco=0A> >> SKILLS DJ WORKSHOP, 2566A Telegraph Ave, Berkeley=0A> >> PARAM= OUNT IMPORTS, 455 Meridian Ave, San Jose=0A> >>=0A> >>=0A> >> forest green:= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0http://www.forestgreen.org=0A> >> forest on da my spac= e: http://www.myspace.com/forestgreen=0A> >> cute things with fangs: http:/= /www.myspace.com/cutefang=0A> >> cute fang recordings:=A0 =A0 http://www.my= space.com/cutefangrecordings=0A> >> daly city records:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0= http://www.dalycityrecords.com=0A> >> cloud factory:=0A> >> =A0 http://www.= cloudfactory.org=0A> >> friends and family:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 http://www.f= nf.org=0A> >=0A> >=0A> ----------------------------------------------------= -----------------=0A> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperre= al.org=0A> > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A= > >=0A> >=0A> =0A> --------------------------------------------------------= -------------=0A> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org= =0A> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org=0A> =0A> = =0A> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150396-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 14 23:49:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60529 invoked by uid 1103); 14 Mar 2009 23:49:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60511 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2009 23:49:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20090314184957.c02x6ms5wscggws0@webmail.viberation.com> Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:49:57 -0500 From: osby@viberation.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] So I heard a rumor sorry for not telling y'all sooner... but like yeah... so much has happened this past week that oh my goodness man.. hello 2day... i just haven't had time to tell y'all the dish :) So yeah.. was kickin' it last weekend with some Rave Familia, eating lumpia, drink beer, & soda... chatting away about everything... anywaze... found out last week that a Moksha Shindig is on it's way... yeah... lol.. neato, huh ;) So like I'm not sure exactly when, but it's suppose to be during the hottest month of the year apparently & well.. yeah... i heard other stuff too that I still gotta confirm with other people on the pssst pssst tip.. but when i find out more, i'll let y'all know!!! :) Peace=-> Just Me=-> Osby {8O) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150397-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 15 00:44:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99374 invoked by uid 1103); 15 Mar 2009 00:44:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99328 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2009 00:44:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=C49HLyv7qGUwiWFqnih9Ikey2goRFhEx8Rmq3goPIfQ=; b=Q61e9+NdpPaYB52aZX0jM+MuMrjX2436o6/0tFVtMgnKdoWGhuelL5SOLM7CN0SO2G EKJwmZsiiBQDPvD5CEl15QnE/vo1NMZ+cSdGs3LXABKkGPKoT7Y9jonMkxZH1j4uvNCI D+6SQoyGKN2G8FvZGMq72KdiTdTpUT61IBiks= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=cL+tuTDwGwH+Lq6HOydCVk5iLN8CfD8vCdTbP7TsRA1tJedGs/97tv1HZHxwCiGvNo z+c/3/Vmhpcr6EzWru7cKR4znh0XyMqKM3WRQj4bNqlLLREaxaAO/KXZ7icRs3Ej0k2a MFwxS1DF9lfbIIbElxCJQfCWcxzQVw2W4x4z4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:44:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1c60b9300903141744v2115fbb0o346be78eb41c97a5@mail.gmail.com> From: Greg Bird To: SFRaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd213debc550004651da4bf X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] bsp: AFTERGLOW this Sunday w/ Solar, Lance DeSardi, & Sassmouth. FREE! --000e0cd213debc550004651da4bf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Afterglow was conceived as a chance to wind down after a long weekend by listening to some chill music and having a few drinks with friends. The idea is to allow some of SF's most talented and multi-faceted dance music DJ's an opportunity to dig deeper into their collections and play music they wouldn't be able to in a club setting. Anything's game, from ambient and electronica, to dub techno, idm, atmospheric drum n bass downtempo, future jazz, deep house and beyond. flyer: http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/bird415/AG03r.png website: http://www.afterglowsf.com venue: http://www.nickies.com friend us @: http://www.myspace.com/afterglowsf ___________________________________ This month's special guests: SOLAR (sunset, bang the box) SASSMOUTH (n.f.b.c : chicago/london) and LANCE DESARDI (landshark, bang the box) __________________________________ Come on, admit it! Aren't you curious to hear what they're going to play? Hope to see you out. Full bar, yummy food til 1am, and as always, it's FREE! Let's get mellow. :) --000e0cd213debc550004651da4bf-- From sfraves-return-150398-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 15 17:25:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78266 invoked by uid 1103); 15 Mar 2009 17:25:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78215 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2009 17:25:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=pTv/z+blfyla6INm3WMyESTWpcwNx0ULtgFGQzekGwM=; b=iURe2tX/siIm98kquuIDO2/k4UQ+fUoLldHVztvzeYH2gBsqpVxXACZ8HDU/4QnzcI bdLIC9lIaqMtRAOQS4fZ3NmhSwPOXT69BJyNlP7C9RyrH2gpRfdVfeJn1BwvEFNgRAwZ ZLxPaPK2wQxQxe0FrH/YcPN3IagLgqCuQYFo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=Zb0WC5LlmPvOgyyfTZFbsJyqBfQ8F7JjRsIGzJ5Qh2EVF8NFmiYfHPjgS9IMEgI03m 3K3/DFsHAUCGit6cMFu9bqKIxgQqdaMzTWF1WfpgfmjoOb7waYqZMPX2A2p5syoEqInI LubQbh/4zZJ8xBsl7KHpIsMwAkB55UVOaaxeA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:25:31 -0800 Message-ID: From: Ben Haus To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd309b4eeca7c04652b9ed1 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive --000e0cd309b4eeca7c04652b9ed1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So I logged onto Beatport this morning, and noticed that George Cochrane has a beatport exclusive on the front page on Prismatic. I'm really liking this Luke Solomon acid remix. Keep up the good work! -Ben --000e0cd309b4eeca7c04652b9ed1-- From sfraves-return-150399-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 15 17:29:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83721 invoked by uid 1103); 15 Mar 2009 17:29:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83703 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2009 17:29:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237138192; bh=LhLkmXTHhDcMaZSkgZcBSt+e9m1rBkWsPXs+LCGgGXA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zp16yRJ7IrG+bXbghTtT2L8zxzZTaPAO3UVK2HEPRNdK17BBk7waYDccZhzebOikBgX2le6L2z/6jWloes6SjacIlf09iH4PHHT9xfFu6YDL1I/bIOvDQz8WpEf5cqnoxBG9d7Gme0YXw9040UPDihYdV+cV8FqKFw2eVPsBANQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0YKFUxJyWl0XB5RQ3rJTA+NPN+KjA4isGCVq6WJ5JckFexOx2smRasFBx4vXBg0m3Q+0bHyK1nQIApbSyNun+WxvTw8WQnh4Ms2JrqznpqhZnXvDM0jGxcL5j1LCQmWJq/MA+x10ZjIxhchylvwv21k3WKyl/ySxO+9nMD1zU0Q=; Message-ID: <160549.60247.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: abk7V60VM1nHkAPfl_4pDiKRoGqG0cXLrhiUbAqt64WMGaLuRBQzeQML26dKgv_Uw3TCnngGFMNkcVPfCZoh.UsfyM._hi._k7mKdqmCy_pEKsynnBzLvtkCx2L8Ld1DhDmlyPxzK2zPp5PLrht7Lqq6e44eO8FZuj_QgPpLNL7wuLLzTAMkSR5eg4qV870jq9QcQeTTNIyVFAVSkRk- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:29:52 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Ben Haus , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive I loved the originals, but the Luke Solomon remixes are even better! Five stars, three thumbs up, highly recommended. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Ben Haus To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:25:31 AM Subject: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive So I logged onto Beatport this morning, and noticed that George Cochrane has a beatport exclusive on the front page on Prismatic. I'm really liking this Luke Solomon acid remix. Keep up the good work! -Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150400-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 15 22:28:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19667 invoked by uid 1103); 15 Mar 2009 22:28:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19646 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2009 22:28:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237156143; bh=Z2JpeBzeKH6W4/JJW31AaGucMaju9KNTGGDMfdOnhoQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OjxgLO/uhf1wclpvz0sAQhpW+QWoldvsH9hAZ9zyhKy/LOKA7NZjHN8z0EPKgI/8UL4vW6zMnFGzSpJeMTdgXp2w2YHlQZ6/paSR46QRhfg/wD3jWdvuGXfpOQwB3pjf35CIUB3pUW0/Miw+tfdC8axpLH32c5vz8iOgKYbUnKM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0v14iXgqLsovyIn5SN+81KG9J+aciIpbQ/JdH6IN44SSPBZL32UGKNApSeFwLgMQfJvNdFOFQVK9A3/fxcym9U7TJ0nAvQmm2dCfQjtnjv1pbQ+cRmOxFPtNQkflrSmM0DUbmrxpV5iCsw9eeWBeLSNNlTOV3x5h4QfLmECosT4=; Message-ID: <906328.38708.qm@web65604.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EkOzn80VM1lb7saYyx.BSBHgIUY_56sL3nJCTIR4LE.1eKnV1nbKRxqvBTD2LIB6IpvBNGu7fkUr.8dp1aisTI3AJmrVqtdILqU8P.h6efhGdyUWw409HWhXAacG3mgbkqqPVt9Td0k2UPCbHxIEeJEsMkT5ThbixAoVloVOb7Mz4mOTGGL9LgjSzO1GDVYcYNhBFmcB0Npg13xfN4g- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <160549.60247.qm@web32401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 15:29:03 -0700 (PDT) From: George Cochrane To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, Ben Haus , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive Wooot! I know, what a trip. We just woke up one day and peeped beatport and there it was. Stoked. ----- Original Message ---- From: "dangrsmind@yahoo.com" To: Ben Haus ; "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:29:52 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive I loved the originals, but the Luke Solomon remixes are even better! Five stars, three thumbs up, highly recommended. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Ben Haus To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:25:31 AM Subject: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive So I logged onto Beatport this morning, and noticed that George Cochrane has a beatport exclusive on the front page on Prismatic. I'm really liking this Luke Solomon acid remix. Keep up the good work! -Ben --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150401-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Mar 16 16:56:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49111 invoked by uid 1103); 16 Mar 2009 16:56:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49077 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2009 16:56:46 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:56 +0000 From: "Holt Sorenson" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org X-Mailer: Mail::SendEasy/1.2 Perl/5.010000-linux Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <20090316165657.A9CCDF83E1@bit.tuplemovers.net> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: dj adnan / soulspin =50=6C=65=61=73=65 =74=75=6E=65 =69=6E =74=6F =4B=5A=53=55 =62=79 =6C=69=73= =74=65=6E=69=6E=67 =74=6F =39=30=2E=31 =69=6E =74=68=65 =42=61=79 =41=72=65= =61 =6F=72 =70=6F=69=6E=74=69=6E=67 =79=6F=75=72 =77=65=62 =62=72=6F=77=73=65=72 =74= =6F =68=74=74=70=3A=2F=2F=6B=7A=73=75=6C=69=76=65=2E=73=74=61=6E=66=6F=72= =64=2E=65=64=75=2E =49=66 =79=6F=75=27=72=65 =69=6E=74=65=72=65=73=74=65=64 =69=6E =67=75=65= =73=74 =61=70=70=65=61=72=69=6E=67 =6F=6E =61=6E=79 =6F=66 =6F=75=72 =73=68= =6F=77=73 =6F=72 =68=61=76=69=6E=67 =61 =6D=69=78 =66=65=61=74=75=72=65=64 =63=6F=6E= =74=61=63=74 =75=73 =75=73=69=6E=67 =6F=75=72 =65=6D=61=69=6C =61=64=64=72= =65=73=73=65=73 =6F=72=3A =65=6C=65=63=74=72=6F=6E=69=63=61=64=6A=73=40=6B=7A=73=75=2E=73= =74=61=6E=66=6F=72=64=2E=65=64=75 =42=69=67 =4C=6F=76=65 =53=68=6F=77 =77=69=74=68 =4A=61=63=6B - =4D=6F=6E = =33=50=4D-=36=50=4D =50=61=63=69=66=69=63=2F=55=53 ------------------------------------------------ =54=68=69=73 =77=65=65=6B =4A=61=63=6B =77=69=6C=6C =62=65 =68=6F=73=74=69= =6E=67 =41=64=6E=61=6E =66=72=6F=6D =46=6F=72=77=61=72=64 =53=46=2E =50=61=6C=65=73=74=69=6E=69=61=6E=2C =42=72=61=7A=69=6C=69=61=6E-=62=6F=72= =6E=2C =41=64=6E=61=6E =53=68=61=72=69=66=27=73 =69=6E=74=72=6F=64=75=63=74= =69=6F=6E =74=6F =6D=75=73=69=63 =62=65=67=61=6E =77=69=74=68 =74=68=65 =6D=61=67=69=63=61=6C =52=68=79=74= =68=6D =6F=66 =53=61=6D=62=61=2C =61=6E=64 =73=6F=75=6C=66=75=6C =72=68=79= =74=68=6D=73 =61=6E=64 =67=72=6F=6F=76=65=73 =68=61=76=65 =64=65=66=69=6E=65=64 =68=69=73 =6D=75= =73=69=63 =65=76=65=72 =73=69=6E=63=65=2E =49=6E =31=39=38=35 =41=64=6E=61= =6E =69=6D=6D=69=67=72=61=74=65=64 =74=6F =74=68=65 =55=53=41 =61=6E=64 =66=6F=75=6E=64 =61 =6E=65=77 =68=6F= =6D=65 =69=6E =74=68=65 =63=69=74=79 =6F=66 =53=61=6E =46=72=61=6E=63=69=73= =63=6F=2E =44=4A =41=64=6E=61=6E =69=73 =6F=6E=65 =6F=66 =74=68=65 =72=69=73=69=6E=67 =73=74= =61=72=73 =6F=66 =74=68=65 =53=61=6E =46=72=61=6E=63=69=73=63=6F =48=6F=75= =73=65 =6D=75=73=69=63 =73=63=65=6E=65=2C =77=69=74=68 =72=65=6C=65=61=73=65=73 =6F=6E =6D=61=6A= =6F=72 =6C=61=62=65=6C=73=2E =48=69=73 =6D=75=73=69=63=61=6C =73=74=79=6C= =65=73 =69=6E=63=6C=75=64=65 =61=6C=6C =67=65=6E=72=65=73 =6F=66 =48=6F=75=73=65 =6D=75=73=69=63 =77=69= =74=68 =73=6D=6F=6F=74=68 =70=65=72=63=75=73=73=69=6F=6E=2E =59=6F=75 =63=61=6E =66=69=6E=64 =6F=75=74 =6D=6F=72=65 =61=62=6F=75=74 =4A= =61=63=6B =61=6E=64 =68=69=73 =73=68=6F=77 =61=74=3A =68=74=74=70=3A=2F=2F=77=77=77=2E=74=68=65=62=69=67=6C=6F=76=65=73=68=6F=77= =2E=63=6F=6D=2F =45=63=6C=65=6B=74=72=6F=6E=69=6B =47=72=6F=6F=76=65 =77=2F =48=6F=6C=74 = =53=6F=72=65=6E=73=6F=6E - =4D=6F=6E =39=41=4D-=31=32=50=4D =50=61=63=69=66= =69=63=2F=55=53 -------------------------------------------------------------- =48=6F=6C=74 =69=73 =68=6F=73=74=69=6E=67 =52=69=63=68=61=72=64 =57=68=69= =74=61=6B=65=72 =28=73=6F=75=6C=73=70=69=6E=29 =74=68=69=73 =77=65=65=6B=2E =54=72=61=6E=73=70=6C=61=6E=74=65=64 =66=72=6F=6D =41=72=69=7A=6F=6E=61 =69= =6E =32=30=30=32=2C =52=69=63=68=61=72=64 =57=68=69=74=61=6B=65=72 =28=61= =2E=6B=2E=61=2E =73=6F=75=6C=73=70=69=6E=29 =6D=6F=76=65=64 =74=6F =74=68=65 =42=61=79 =77=69=74=68 =6F=6E=65 =74=68=69= =6E=67 =69=6E =6D=69=6E=64=2E=2E=2E=6D=75=73=69=63! 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I know, what a trip. We just woke up one day and peeped beatport > and there it was. Stoked. > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "dangrsmind@yahoo.com" > To: Ben Haus ; "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:29:52 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive > > > I loved the originals, but the Luke Solomon remixes are even better! > > Five stars, three thumbs up, highly recommended. > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Ben Haus > To: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 10:25:31 AM > Subject: [sfraves] Beatport Exclusive > > So I logged onto Beatport this morning, and noticed that George Cochrane > has > a beatport exclusive on the front page on Prismatic. I'm really liking > this > Luke Solomon acid remix. Keep up the good work! > > -Ben > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150403-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 06:10:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13374 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 06:10:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13357 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 06:10:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237270241; bh=uoRtneBQXhKy5y7BTfDGKAJIJCXT33awq1JBeFC2aDI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0pg2II5TLtVsi2VDtH22EljXI7nECI02EDnn2WY1eYpCyPIZdjkR2gMYaBEYzL3puDfAbxGaDwXRTn9aY2RZDgPdNF4oXgimcFtbHfmhWJU5wFdAkLSre2ufRB5RB1m+lEiMKwaB0Z/8XPUH1nAL0aDYaXgaVupaB0kzg69Cf7g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EDd9HF7d3HFocG6gp5Zv5AeGeg8oArZAXE/G3aTCnbbMO4lr3r6eXnunQBkqXSmNpLCx6wcJcdOVc18+IWWVl80SWlpr/YnAknfemmPZnqG9ZF5yrp0gxEL1U/tQpB64XHpgFJJcKcsvu42nRIGye9KMQ2VZFFAwtKwCS9XyYKY=; Message-ID: <318089.10181.qm@web50004.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CxK8bjsVM1kEYq9kscYRK0K3JQCg6NWCUYSo1_2H1gQH3tGHUUgwdZS8_lUn9NgLvKbYOFURYkaDqwagzF0igfHb2yWwZx6AlHTVtv7VUFV5xU5DlVK7TWROUZHBhGqYKA0he.._b4OfZuy1ULCYp_jHpou.tM_VGtuQlIYKFBZv7oO5ngUR3n0WWGlO_yyFeLULisAGmad5Wuig5j043kYavN2dllPvzUPT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:10:40 -0700 (PDT) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: for those into snowballing... (3/21) ...I'm playing at the Nexus "Meltdown" party on Saturday, 3/21 at my favorite resort in South Lake Tahoe: Kirkwood. Location is the Tower Bar (by chair 1), and I'll be on around noon. Party is free, goes until midnight, I think. http://www.nexusnebula.com Featuring: JPhlip (dirtybird) Stridah (nexus) Shiny D (nexus) Mr. Projectile (semisexual) Little John (raindance) Alia (raindance) Aaron Jae (evil breaks) Redstickman (ambient mafia) DJ Lunchtray (nexus) Pauley Unsaturated (nexus) Nisus (nexus) + some special surprise guests! ---------------------------------------------------- www.redstickman.com blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150404-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 06:47:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32302 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 06:47:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 32286 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 06:47:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=NzggF47HVc3rbonOWKCIKz8cWP+ICuBUKV5fSk6TpBA=; b=LnCHwwkXwryP1WBAlXN3uX0Z+tZWIWWUxhmtSmuJZH6+fk/Cm6BVDE86PTQTJoNVkN GZMT1RRE1whXAnyJPUM53Nc7R7AkFYOkkbNS5ao3GacZGsuGNt8FubuKV6ax7fI2aPjz THnWaEBbdzNp0ZtEZ6BsP7xfT4LrXknszJ8PU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=YGV/DC3uNjLkuXu9ITJBrUdl3erjGkk35eBQf8w7BuT86rxXZhrybDLiUznAwCZCEl z8vmcqcFAtVSFoDCdzxH3pjNjYG2ZiP1dKuM39Irjd9eH01U0DN9YCWeVZR7u/BtzKTP +3TuX8w0nxxmbFYyC/NBsxDErObxvQY+ikJNI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:48:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: juju To: def-annouce@defsf.com, "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd6a9584dd3cd04654af3fa X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Gui Boratto in SF? --000e0cd6a9584dd3cd04654af3fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Folks, Wondering if anyone is planning to book Gui Boratto when he's on the West Coast next month? I know he's in Seattle 4/8... anyone? ~juju --000e0cd6a9584dd3cd04654af3fa-- From sfraves-return-150405-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 07:31:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50181 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 07:31:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 50160 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 07:31:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237275086; bh=zN/PlxpbZvUeGA5W3tCl5+AYCC60rRPe7rAj01qi2uM=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g3TC+qtsHZ9EgnCzQNDcFtRrJAbDr+ub1V4UybyIoPOG0a0FqFcmGS0jVua3hrry2XWC30EjuYicZM0lkrubh0BhN+z6lHPkxeJCGl18ubIHbqiAY6QUZLdDvcFPqwcE8Bw8CLX7Csz+PhFDK93JpunpSTuogF9HChLRjD2VUWY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qTKLU1VAnuUeclrU3EYKH073rMqvNMuwWy7Z8hoSkR6CbUlPOKeYfG47ouQj+vkNOXcdncIWnDp05FYsia9qXHm+FH2k5gi16TT7Yx0q6FK6Bt4vLMJWFzdhidoVpg//KJaJiGK8Sko4ioqD04pqc4yPMWsb2JpNyMLkPGqur9s=; Message-ID: <699824.9398.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: z8dWPpQVM1mtoR6LHVK7r6MhlJpiwwc0scog.1DeRHbOZsAixlGjMmOdS_WwYH6juID7k7ivy.hF2.IBtFFnEx1lLoLl_XN.luS3jACwyaZynVqH4PnGY6iK.RGQ66NY.ijATa8v4avcr_mtQUXOzvf_FsHaDZw51_MM.3yEnr4AKSK51P1AhY047bKFhkx.gDeJSiGMg55PkuMfO0ncuwUIcc4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:31:26 -0700 (PDT) From: George Cochrane To: juju , def-annouce@defsf.com, "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gui Boratto in SF? That would be sick... Alert us if you (or anybody else) does! -G ----- Original Message ---- From: juju To: def-annouce@defsf.com; "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 11:48:10 PM Subject: [sfraves] Gui Boratto in SF? Hi Folks, Wondering if anyone is planning to book Gui Boratto when he's on the West Coast next month? I know he's in Seattle 4/8... anyone? ~juju --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150406-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 15:30:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57843 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 15:30:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 57821 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 15:30:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 466493.6715.bm@omp103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237303836; bh=zLwuhQjDCWApmZAJtLkrlQ8Flz2fmqtNnhfFPzi8UDs=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dxWfpqEGW6Aej7zi5Q5jA7S5KZi32Ydh6Vf4Mh6KV3uyET3xES7Q93X418UM4rNUOsB8vlynbVGhMYYefnXS3rQvD6BJeU1d6wHdHKaWz1YOnrTrt7lWfhpwj/pI6vDve/pfB8Ma8dSPh26nZpdsh19KaDNSst7zHzyr3+Bh6U4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i2EqtIGBAhpZkpFeK/mijkl7m2s0vtj7qDEoGeqnxCyRVrqc2edWCe1JPiVCBAem2g7dErHeV4C9dKNEDIg6MQKu+s7Cg/kbEokFudwt/CLok5Apk9FWdkbLfR/pO8Wkv+zXmWOLiEOFW7MXt+INyIS+dPh1byE5kpOs4hb9azY=; Message-ID: <458727.41871.qm@web111115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zFJK6ZoVM1nwZj1__ja3VaiB5eYWRrTER85QE6pczyiOmVylg_GvCBdtkW1fTtBZIMRyqbhY.NzKR1K23jeu54JZH77n5tjd_Usx5Hp3Jb.axJvliuP2D4MzwUefENhGMUuVOuIF.A0NsxGRVgKSl2ubx6vkeTSl6kJ4CpCeBCVqTw_gcTxbo3CYkGdN3kSBNdsHcGWxFTYOdW.NFb4tuIRNLfUaEg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:30:36 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-56786306-1237303836=:41871" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] new to the board --0-56786306-1237303836=:41871 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over there in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. --0-56786306-1237303836=:41871-- From sfraves-return-150407-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 17:38:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68153 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 17:38:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68134 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 17:38:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237311519; bh=m2IpBO8nZ+oTxiZxQoLUUuC3ZVRKNvSZfwn20Leagv8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JqDRjxjcmcmfXwQDe2o9zzQvRhzD1NhkM8lYujJMT7T04mrJez346p81pnpa9qebJuzCwTFPFhy9M4EA4+pnAf0iVo5GhUoteIjYV689IZIBTAZ0hlGWe5L8o9bQFrNBdOr9s2O+K9GZHJGg0AhypKLlji/nHguOi3DZBqG7msQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uX/Go6YXujTpHjTeDtSy8371A1TC/AV/s0iPfwkw1Aw3M5lIDFdZRsUM1SPOoYq/d1q+yRWN8xtD7uEJL0pMQVu/FTpUMpJoUOryBzLY2z2Xw55r/vzpAV8fQTBNFnrh55veDafrH9Es3u92xXC9ONzkIvbJ1RxVAlwfyF4do1M=; Message-ID: <601952.33822.qm@web65610.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3uwWYwAVM1m8OdygWMAGYtWwWnsHSXWaP9Iya7bWEq_f0FxHHj12LtrdD_gyuL1847GHJrVPN0VFrDbZtOphCbDeJW_rDf3iaZS5ka24Lv8yb11INBptQJv9Kn9VGsyMMipX1NXUqx8auae1PiUfRCIziMggPzG3dt3.4Ru_mgdqGIQpmtV7YMB.yLw7BgGtKyhRWbpOF5BywQPxtyU3lIO6zUwZYaUH X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <458727.41871.qm@web111115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:38:39 -0700 (PDT) From: George Cochrane To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board ...In before the curmudgeons! SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music finding its way into bonafide club nights. There are tons of exceptionally good DJs, producers and performers in the area. The UG rave scene is not blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there are still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outside the club zone. The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are like nothing else and a big highlight. The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can afford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already). Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally) and culture are great. -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM Subject: [sfraves] new to the board hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over there in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150408-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 17:44:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74812 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 17:44:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74792 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 17:43:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 653345.26860.bm@omp114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237311858; bh=dL+8uW27LHRgIRD3iE+RENq+u1uhQvsdVczDMU3J8X8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UXbKQ7qDbcQqNRpSvFf2rP0LxaGOtgKPO+JjJTm/h9peSyApObneIdbKZVpGSC9Neqm1rFNNfGcA3u5PW8sl/tlTi/jDGtoIBfq2LOFcthjoF/KR6PWFR3mUL0vPhxHADXi+KOZEeVvUpmSjed/p2XxzurxDRbI6KEYWftLSC10= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o3KTBKVtGfPU4JAqYIvcCJyPvzaepGCpKuZoQInm3RY96l+eL7soNVjv249aYTWMR7hM7IOQVWKUYrTpy/rzacnkCnICnaPEaeJKfUfd+yj+SWwcJr9MgWuROv4wV/H6q1XKpFynm6F75x6h44j/pHcgJrDVgWzoB5srPEaipNM=; Message-ID: <568616.6996.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6rsxbx0VM1miuOpJsXvQQ8j4KKkiSrOPv9abJ9ryZU3xlrjQ0VjnHJA.TNeoZroTkGa4B90K8.o3WYqvql.Qc.z4J7.XV9rz_2B_XD4sr1btlchXP2B7bq3JV1416xC5ZgvmsaMf2u4F_hyC59sYP6dtIFKai38H_Rk.8lf68kxzWk_AnphWVJn0C3673Go.MBsHZbNXnQXocd7jTAnAJewL_m_hUlhVfRUG.9RUk98NnmN93lrYpzeqMfz9vA8eGxiK X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:44:18 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1950285220-1237311858=:6996" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0-1950285220-1237311858=:6996 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. makin= g money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and i = spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what im = looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho i= do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anythin= gs got to be better than miami. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: From: George Cochrane Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM ....In before the curmudgeons! SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music findin= g its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally goo= d DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not bl= owing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there are = still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outside= the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are l= ike nothing else and a big highlight. The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can aff= ord it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).=A0= Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally)= and culture are great.=20 -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM Subject: [sfraves] new to the board hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over= there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now= im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoev= er. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have n= o mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over the= re in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. =0A=0A=0A --0-1950285220-1237311858=:6996-- From sfraves-return-150409-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 18:21:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13088 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 18:21:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 13070 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 18:21:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237314086; bh=BXPHOGukMVBUX7c+ZGIavT941aOhNHRp3xidDF4F5oQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=suHGVeOxoKukGvxvIA5RLvj64KuPO/xScMSP7LePAtnLU21LlsPe9MKimJi0gPvgLS0yY7jwvUfxNzjIy5DusKCnaWLb3hEcRKAB5c2n3To2QFfYlvkKm4k5o1MIOuuMHoDj8NP+RHxjynhZ+t4Z40Jf8H4l4xbPJMdzkSdkdlE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l/aS7mG7k6Uws2pXDhDuR2AnRCt4zejCeNLL9nwSnc6at8w4Vkk5cBQHLb0KaDnSYQLS6zqV20j7Vxockv3XmPIM+iLsiGsGieK4S3j163gO34roJGaiqSMXi46vHFi8Cwx93oX8ur7YDLJX5BdYPE51+onv/0NDsZRAulHD9Mg=; Message-ID: <49975.82320.qm@web32406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: apspyNUVM1lwWtvVx2R1sOsxl0kQByOxnYkNJ.qPAaAOogJ5wUUZB36RafZg0DdwzNSZZtaatNNqVyfKjhzjdfTz4_F4eKuxJYD25evVs0iqbUtN15W97vjnYT96jIlegGI6i24r3GwmUQ1s8MnOf1iJij.QArX04LI9mDRvcFDgCaI0R16zZdNEiOPxatfDCT05uYtzyAmT8kqlh8FKqgTp_ur2jGB2 X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <568616.6996.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:21:26 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <568616.6996.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board Employment picture sucks here right now (I just lost my gig) but the underground scene is great. Seriously, we're all jaded and forget how lucky we are to have what we have in SF. While we don't have anything like WMC, the Lovefest in September is pretty amazing. I guess that's not very curmudgeonly... Welcome to the list. What sort of music are you playing these days? Hope you like fog... Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:44:18 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. making money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and i spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what im looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho i do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anythings got to be better than miami. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: From: George Cochrane Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM ....In before the curmudgeons! SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music finding its way into bonafide club nights. There are tons of exceptionally good DJs, producers and performers in the area. The UG rave scene is not blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there are still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outside the club zone. The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are like nothing else and a big highlight. The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can afford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already). Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally) and culture are great. -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM Subject: [sfraves] new to the board hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over there in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150410-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 19:18:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60416 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 19:18:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60393 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 19:18:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=feVmDdBXAi2g2uZ/eypQrtbtjq78AtOZSDztEht3p7s=; b=NjfboFan3UsYAGicfIMMGFOY+khYLo9Msyu56YKVtXU+9717pFUhqp4ndRZGEpdBp4 qVaQBX8Ca8jRAr9ppjmJVUjQEkRHBQGp2GaqKvg5xKHcWYXm0dXeriO6gH6ZsEQIakWH u8y9a8zYCyskrQesfKSSw4b8kAjrnNl5iPYC0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eKMu83fqfFiysfez03VauUOa0CyWiow4WV3zvEe7xs1FBwsIXNx7PP1xvps06SwxmZ nPxCBY2ZVriWMydWLm3BbaAZ+nsMTJ6LshCD2TZ4RaZdH1oXnu9OooMscA3ChPDRewYS jPiz8jPbIsP4o6aQbQCm4b4QpteawBV7JrPV0= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:18:27 -0700 Message-ID: From: staple music To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd151fe7c2da90465556edf X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Stap[e: Primer Happy Hour - Thursday, March 19 @ WISH --000e0cd151fe7c2da90465556edf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stap[e: Primer Happy Hour Wish Thurs, March 19 With special guest, Eli Bingham And Resident DJs: Qzen Javaight Fil Latorre Stap[e Primer Happy Hour returns with special guest Eli Bingham (Nightlight Music). While he was getting a college education in the late '90s Bay Area, he discovered the local rave scene - specifically the local techno scene, at events thrown by Friends & Family, Mad, Gateway Systems, and Static. Eli's officially retired from the music scene these days, but always happy to make a cameo appearance. Recent Mix: http://discodoreradio.blogspot.com/ Primer focuses on providing an outlet for DJs to bring their true crate gems that they may not bust out on the dancefloor. Stuff for the mind and for the soul. Expect to hear deep eclectic music...always. --000e0cd151fe7c2da90465556edf-- From sfraves-return-150411-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Mar 17 21:03:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39378 invoked by uid 1103); 17 Mar 2009 21:03:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39356 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2009 21:03:14 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 12.51.43.194 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.14.21 Message-Id: <20090317140334.f8f3637177c5bf8d3f6f1103fa6aaa62.e01be3c0ca.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> From: thatguy@caligrownevents.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 14:03:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Wanted: Electronic Drum Kit Looking to spend less than $500.00, please contact me offlist if you know anyone looking to get rid of a set.=20 Thanks! CG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150412-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 17:38:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90408 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 17:38:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90382 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 17:38:00 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 131959.86125.bm@omp105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237397900; bh=02zZIuay+VBoztWxGOW27QZvlayD7+wGeVDK3pcWF2s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dMN7zlVJW4ndSQIyAnXsewNPztOH265r79fme3roPstqBN6ks+WPdTsQj9D52Jipp1JRDIAaeejMS5nx5pxqzWcTLiqN70OALqKHrRcdBxBDAM5NB3s+L/E4A+iYGafOPORyrrnIwGkz9ATUqeEr8/FekZXMUu+k0kYcuOsnlhQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MEK3UpB0TU7WMBZn8oXYlWjL5eZOB8S4cKqXg8o8GJyBZ81O2M0Ta1SjCPlq5xgJkF+oMB/uiopUtqsvzM6ua7ZWhJ2uJ4AE5NnrHFRfD9CPnAoGVcVGOep3E2uhrfquad4Mu0DinifQ2CvYLWSQnFevB0LwZO4YuSH9Dx7iwQ4=; Message-ID: <273700.50848.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: m3X_VJgVM1mh3Ays9tvF_Pu1nSeFZB3SPqKRIyLfIm3gFalEc8fSn4bxGv6BufgNhW6erPh63m1Wcw3F2xmsclH1.w1y9c2qLhnBrx0Vy46y1VfvlRbhzKxpbaflIwOHwYq4lDyCT2YbQQJovqHkrBsFAeakGVd5LJmltpLBofwS8MfT2V8kl6KcGG0yc.P0n3IEO.tSu0D9grKWMawldg121EebNMXoFax_6k2s2.cgo4b4LlIG2FXfwcg1r6Idm0Uq X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:38:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1427714328-1237397900=:50848" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0-1427714328-1237397900=:50848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mostly im doing deep trance and hard dance. i can spin house too tho. i thi= nk just about anybody can spin house lol. i heard about the love parade bei= ng over there for the last few years im not sure why tho. since i was 15 iv= e been going to the love parade in berlin. not sure why they moved it to sf= .. hopefully its as good there as it was in germany. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 2:21 PM Employment picture sucks here right now (I just lost my gig) but the underg= round scene is great.=A0 Seriously, we're all jaded and forget how lucky we= are to have what we have in SF.=A0 While we don't have anything like WMC, = the Lovefest in September is pretty amazing.=A0=20 I guess that's not very curmudgeonly...=20 Welcome to the list. What sort of music are you playing these days?=A0 Hope you like fog... Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:44:18 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. makin= g money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and i = spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what im = looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho i= do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anythin= gs got to be better than miami. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: From: George Cochrane Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM .....In before the curmudgeons! SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music findin= g its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally goo= d DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not bl= owing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there are = still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outside= the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are l= ike nothing else and a big highlight. The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can aff= ord it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).=A0= Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally)= and culture are great.=20 -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM Subject: [sfraves] new to the board hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over= there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now= im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoev= er. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have n= o mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over the= re in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. =0A=0A=0A --0-1427714328-1237397900=:50848-- From sfraves-return-150413-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 17:41:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93289 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 17:41:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93272 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 17:41:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 926742.78015.bm@omp112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237398106; bh=gJmy/v2eEy4Q/XaTleXnEb4J+QQSdqC18Do22DXZ6tc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0JZEumzuVN60MydjnaSPYV4UKJSkhgbxJ5JItr6LLG5qToCbflKAZQnlHllG/OC8uYh91OqswEiz/qiyTY+U35702YDRIj7qRP4re3ruMRtCQXffAXVTibCSpHePWyLM4bvWYWczFJJP+RfG3GhTo2vc2mOIHswbNmc/hwjGWaU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LSkl/+Mo18awmvpuDfUwbQGjXWdRzRihCQP72tmnFcEgTReaNOtD4EAMTiAvLVPCD6j0t98XjQLFfq3udFsyv5oHZk8+zW+SILrhuTNJKT50d3T88aeX2y94NieJupCSvOGdu+mSy04gp1OPi0/pBF4AxBlB6pdmrwawlrcD8kw=; Message-ID: <843833.12843.qm@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: q8nHMJwVM1kggM5sDucGzkDRnBNNwDKstgIq51yhbCOX8gwYWH2t.pMxiWvQBgM2yQDRpqqbpvhpzUq8KutQbuRoQzPqlkq6YMbPtpKlupLQaTpDZ97WOgvVDgJDMl084Ng1_Rz5_guRdLozhecZGAJQEJTsZedfitANsnIAQwFFnKWX3uILkziRc6HXOGCTR.TxHXj5NXqRGpKRv6rVFImei51if3DvGjyXVsDeWhZ3fW_vu9NfU1f5x_KklEfhIc14 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:41:46 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-89314070-1237398106=:12843" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0-89314070-1237398106=:12843 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable where are you at right now? iraq or afghanistan? marine? i miss my days in = the marine corps, wish i could go back. took an m60 round in my ankle and g= ot my achilles tendon severed when a recon op went south. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, d . k wrote: From: d . k Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:13 PM glad to have another veteran with us. i'm overseas right now; can't wait to= get back home. please post mixes, i need music. -jason On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, mike guglielmini w= rote: not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. makin= g money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and i = spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what im = looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho i= do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anythin= gs got to be better than miami. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: From: George Cochrane Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM .....In before the curmudgeons! SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music findin= g its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally goo= d DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not bl= owing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there are = still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outside= the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are l= ike nothing else and a big highlight. The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can aff= ord it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).=A0= Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally)= and culture are great. -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM Subject: [sfraves] new to the board hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over= there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now= im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoev= er. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have n= o mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over the= re in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-89314070-1237398106=:12843-- From sfraves-return-150414-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 20:19:00 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45947 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 20:18:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45927 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 20:18:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237407558; bh=2z/CaemomRJlfztL146cNGSADzCWwx4d/D85Y5AiIuQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wxoShbxj76d/oYt/iD5weZfncazCU7+/ES/24S6EDL9fb424xuhcSBVShNX/0pJ9O4Sn6rcbjuacCl1I0v5bjZ2Zc/pTEFLH3V0wleId5l7QoK2ZH6BXYsWDGoEau0QLv9YmTiBlB5d5tBWo99MPjsUKUXQ6z3H3uHEI1SoSeww= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IykHLw9wliAUkvtf5rAJBW2xMlxoJxTl7O/Oc4JENHgCkPbCOOuppWdI1Quxllej+cseyDQNjLqnbL/4ARUTtvO5s+PHHWE6Cm3peJR3/cXhLg+IQhk2JkmGshplbTts87lSC/9r9uv+Ccr6O5/tXCr1XsqWoho+pdxAWLwUkug=; Message-ID: <625863.43120.qm@web50008.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zYXQIcwVM1mOGDdnH_lFuLBoLa_e6ziFd51i.f_RyW4liIYppJic1sDueLDduDC2wffutnkFHMQCoFVD0i9DU27cU9GCpor_By4mvsdLiA3vogKchqhY5Fvshg4zEiBx5nLYXw_KWnT2uDawZnhF_gBPd_j8nZFW5tz6VjKbXpijALYQhEqrgesh_hEZZ8W7IJe3wkFSsFMufXKI5Lvjve0ovO0ZUya39olU2HGw6xIX X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.4 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: michael the redstickman To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: EB 5 - The E.B. Dream Team EB 5 - The E.B. Dream Team Saturday, April 4th, 2009 Mezzanine (444 Jessie St.) 9pm-4am Cost if on the 700+ person list: (signup box @ EvilBreaks.com) The 1st 100 arrivals - FREE! The next 100 arrivals - $5 All other listees half-price until the list closes @ 11pm - $10 Door Cost: $20 In keeping with past E.B. Anniversary shows, we want to thank everyone for supporting us in the past couple of years, and although this lineup is so insane we can't do it completely free for hundreds of people like we've been doing, we hope that you like what we can offer. Sign up is now open down below...... This show has been 5 years in the making, & we have decided to go HUGE!!! A ridiculous lineup, a ridiculous venue, a ridiculous price......You know how we do, & with this show, we're going to put everything we've ever done to shame. Get ready. Main Room Mayhem: Roxiller - uk (TCR/Record Records/Distinctive/Functional Breaks/Sober Music) (1st U.S. performance since their North American debut @ EB 1) Chris Carter - uk (TCR/Record Records/Chi/Botchit & Scarper/En:Vision/Fat!) Diverted - uk (Diverted Traffic/TCR/Sokolov Sounds/I-Breaks) JHz - uk (Record Records/TCR/Tagsta/Botchit/Kilowatt/i-breaks/Fat!/Distinctive/Lot 49) the EB boys: Aaron Jae (E.B./Space Cowboys/C.O.N.) Bam (E.B./Invibe) M.O.D. (E.B.) w/Simple Greene (Strategik) opening the main room..... Upstairs Room (4 corner SWAT sound): S.O.T.E.G. (aka Bill Bless, aka the Disciple Grin) - Austin, TX (Sober Records/Bless Records) R-Kidz - uk (Lawgiverz/Trigger/Botchit & Scarper/Addictech) + Special guest still tba...... Mozaic (Hookerz & Blow/Nexus/Glimmer of Dope) Ernie Trevino (SPace Cowboys) Ambient Mafia Upstairs Room: Cumulus (Connoisseur Collective) Redstickman (Friends and Family) We Are Not Pandas (WanP, Mirai Kinai) Actual Rafiq (Crunk's Not Dead) Squelchy (Vocoid) Unagi (WoM) Viberation Visuals on 4+ screens SIGN UP @ EVILBREAKS.COM!!!! ---------------------------------------------------- www.redstickman.com blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah ---------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150415-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 20:35:42 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60102 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 20:35:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60082 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 20:35:42 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <273700.50848.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <273700.50848.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:36:01 -0700 Message-ID: <42a0b30f0903181336o3f604a0fj495c3d09b909bea4@mail.gmail.com> From: Ray Wong To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board Parallel party, not a relocation. SFLoveFest not a big as the Love Parade, but our scene is dynamic and friendly. There are a ton of intimate, smaller parties, rather than big, iconic ones, though there are a handful of well known crews in the area with reputations for their parties. You'll get people who think it's the best, who complain it's nothing like berlin|somewhereineurope, and everything in between. Really, the biggest thing I can say is that it's what you make it. If you expect to see or find thousands or even hundreds of like-minded fans around you every weekend, you will likely be disappointed, but in terms of filling the generally smaller venues we've got as we can get them, hey, it's an intense time. -R. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > mostly im doing deep trance and hard dance. i can spin house too tho. i t= hink just about anybody can spin house lol. i heard about the love parade b= eing over there for the last few years im not sure why tho. since i was 15 = ive been going to the love parade in berlin. not sure why they moved it to = sf.. hopefully its as good there as it was in germany. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 2:21 PM > > > > Employment picture sucks here right now (I just lost my gig) but the unde= rground scene is great.=A0 Seriously, we're all jaded and forget how lucky = we are to have what we have in SF.=A0 While we don't have anything like WMC= , the Lovefest in September is pretty amazing. > > I guess that's not very curmudgeonly... > > Welcome to the list. > > What sort of music are you playing these days?=A0 Hope you like fog... > > Best, > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:44:18 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > > not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. mak= ing money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and = i spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what i= m looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho= i do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anyth= ings got to be better than miami. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: > > > From: George Cochrane > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM > > > > .....In before the curmudgeons! > > SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music find= ing its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally g= ood DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not = blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there ar= e still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outsi= de the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are= like nothing else and a big highlight. > > The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can a= fford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).= =A0 Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasional= ly) and culture are great. > > -GC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM > Subject: [sfraves] new to the board > > hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like ov= er there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right n= ow im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatso= ever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have= no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over t= here in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150416-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 20:37:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61757 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 20:37:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61739 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 20:37:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vGYcpfE7lgdIdnlL3KgNrrWYCPGkUCseXNX24c1cD+8=; b=Gs3UMtW9YAAavpE9U4Ct4wm98w6wK4zuDUgVtVtgmg74Z+EeWejyjejlXADV+/66V8 4bqGr8Hbt3wBiY2oGPcSGchTgtBfsootH7zvwxdnWY0+UeVJMOUulwbDU+kST2JjcCaP 8LURIh/vKIhjoC+ffeFCYv55OjDLkwCThc8Cg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=QJgbBp1vEKNPgaX4LNoiM/Aja45YRBaTGLLguVxnGiF6f7KzBBaa3LzfStniBRn933 GGcJLfmRGTv4Ee3YGrlB/oHvDrI3FWwP3U2Vf3eMH64qkBE3CGQXf0plVFA30DJkivxO Yha6UWkvooDSdOyp6adS7V1dJwSkrkKNGwgt4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <843833.12843.qm@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <843833.12843.qm@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:37:58 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903181337w17813e29n28cbde83010d61dc@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e65a0f64bb08ea04656aa858 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0016e65a0f64bb08ea04656aa858 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Semper, motehrfalucking Fi. Devil Dog. Ooooh rah. Technically, because I got out of my signed, Contractual Obligations to Preserve, Protect and Defend The US Constitution of the United States of America on 21 Sep 1990, the VA considers me a GW I Combat Vet, only because I was in USMC uniform on 3 Aug 1990 the day Saddam's tanks went a rollin' into Kuwait, on the very fucking DAY my contract went under 100 days and I became a 2 digit midget. doh. Anyways, right now, I'm out of the USA, I'm living in Munich, Germany, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjN6g50avv64 right now, with plans to move = to Berlin with my GF, Maja, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoAnPgpDERJw on 1 September, 2009, so I can realize my plans to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcYj1nkwMp4k (if Apollo was still subbed h= ere he would *totally* get that Hitler Invades Poland reference), so, like, y'know, dude, you and I should talk further. And if you are so inclined, this is an open invite to come out and visit if you ever hop the pond again and make your way east. Marine Corps Ravers Unite, and shit. Welcome to SFRaves Party, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2kJSq5bo8uI Teuf= el Hund. Oh, and if you're over the age of 25, feel free to look up Raver Geriatric here on Hyperreal, and introduce yourself to Mary W., who is also subbed to SoCal Raves, in case you fall below the minimum age requirement of RG. I'm sure she'd like you. A lot. Peisces, Nyc PS: all you jaded curmudgeons out there, yes, I'm looking @ =C3=9C, Joe Blough.... whatever. KTHXBAIZ!!!!!1!1ses On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM, mike guglielmini wr= ote: > where are you at right now? iraq or afghanistan? marine? i miss my days i= n > the marine corps, wish i could go back. took an m60 round in my ankle and > got my achilles tendon severed when a recon op went south. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, d . k wrote: > > > From: d . k > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:13 PM > > > glad to have another veteran with us. i'm overseas right now; can't wait = to > get back home. > > please post mixes, i need music. > > -jason > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > > not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. > making money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month > and i spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly > what im looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on > clubs tho i do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats > left. anythings got to be better than miami. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: > > > From: George Cochrane > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM > > > > .....In before the curmudgeons! > > > > > SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music > finding its way into bonafide club nights. There are tons of exceptional= ly > good DJs, producers and performers in the area. The UG rave scene is not > blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there = are > still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outsi= de > the club zone. The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are li= ke > nothing else and a big highlight. > > The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can > afford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already= ). > Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally= ) > and culture are great. > > -GC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM > Subject: [sfraves] new to the board > > hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like ov= er > there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right no= w > im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here > whatsoever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of t= hem > have no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like > over there in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. > > > > > > > > > --=20 Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --0016e65a0f64bb08ea04656aa858-- From sfraves-return-150417-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 20:43:47 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67055 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 20:43:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 67038 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 20:43:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237409047; bh=jW3AuqK4iOIYROYXOuhRhUh1vs5/KjHyWqHLdeGxJpk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gv5FSSUBRpk0ifqqMay0DSBNRrCPfH4JG3dplINoU0fN6PzAIlkM8t0do3XrTqF1JF6iomlRBbseEzGrUZslTjqNirDGGWt2e/gV6UYypkcaD/1S0g9xtFURcl5a2AW48uqkcG7FzQmYSt6AJFE/LostHcCbGghcYWQ09vwWpLg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uWAA5/6hPmwOGGYqYvkOL7SWp25tP6DW6FFdXeoxR73hL6WLYueZzIejdBRUvwHzPrxyGUXSyJA6B6F16faJpSlnLxhtkV3s90l71NESFlm+g3bRMh5Wx1x27nWONirfEfs12wz0T0hg5Ek5JtvJE/sDdJAiroylthvDq++d1WE=; Message-ID: <404069.29322.qm@web110104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CjIWzrQVM1mVSufMlooCCq_5iy2.TMl81V_lmxfE6grElWPAR7ONZyPgKJLT7r.ujJDw0mh7R.XkPIYIIen0ux5w9s7J3smOd6kZYaZr9SP9FHt3RuR3gkD6_ext3yNY9xfXoorETG0w_5jq4XUZisZ1cyVMxgsp58CmyMr1CPxgR0cYfCIGbwCJm7a_100KwcMcolNeEjzZjRvABAk8SfNSuIA9yNma_lgoL48m1cpwt9IxFEdAxTOP X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:44:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Anthony Maxwell To: Anthony Maxwell , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2094400221-1237409047=:29322" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0-2094400221-1237409047=:29322 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Anthony Maxwell wrote: From: Anthony Maxwell Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "Ray Wong" Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 8:43 PM Much respect to our vets and soldiers, The only rave Ive been to was LoveFe= st, and it was the most fun Ive had. --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ray Wong wrote: From: Ray Wong Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 8:36 PM Parallel party, not a relocation.=A0 SFLoveFest not a big as the Love Parade, but our scene is dynamic and friendly.=A0 There are a ton of intimate, smaller parties, rather than big, iconic ones, though there are a handful of well known crews in the area with reputations for their parties. You'll get people who=0A think it's the best, who complain it's nothing like berlin|somewhereineurope, and everything in between.=A0 Really, the biggest thing I can say is that it's what you make it.=A0 If you expect to see or find thousands or even hundreds of like-minded fans around you every weekend, you will likely be disappointed, but in terms of filling the generally smaller venues we've got as we can get them, hey, it's an intense time. -R. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > mostly im doing deep trance and hard dance. i can spin house too tho. i t= hink just about anybody can spin house lol. i heard about the love parade b= eing over there for the last few years im not sure why tho. since i was 15 = ive been going to the love parade in berlin. not sure why they moved it to = sf..=0A hopefully its as good there as it was in germany. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 2:21 PM > > > >=0A Employment picture sucks here right now (I just lost my gig) but the u= nderground scene is great.=A0 Seriously, we're all jaded and forget how luc= ky we are to have what we have in SF.=A0 While we don't have anything like = WMC, the Lovefest in September is pretty amazing. > > I guess that's not very curmudgeonly... > > Welcome to the list. > > What sort of music are you playing these days?=A0 Hope you like fog... > > Best, > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:44:18 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > > not bad. i was=0A around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. = making money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month a= nd i spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly wha= t im looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs = tho i do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. an= ythings got to be better than miami. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: > > > From: George Cochrane > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM > > > > .....In before the curmudgeons! > > SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music find= ing its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally g= ood DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not = blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there ar= e still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outsi= de the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are= like nothing else and a big highlight. > > The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can a= fford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).= =A0 Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain=0A occasio= nally) and culture are great. > > -GC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM > Subject: [sfraves] new to the board > > hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like ov= er there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right n= ow im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatso= ever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have= no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over t= here in sf? from what im reading it looks=0A ok. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A --0-2094400221-1237409047=:29322-- From sfraves-return-150418-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Mar 18 21:42:38 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8632 invoked by uid 1103); 18 Mar 2009 21:42:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8613 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2009 21:42:37 -0000 References: <843833.12843.qm@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7237bf9f0903181337w17813e29n28cbde83010d61dc@mail.gmail.com> To: digitalcomponents@gmail.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:42:47 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f0903181337w17813e29n28cbde83010d61dc@mail.gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB76299D1F3FFA_C78_2BC4_WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41921-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB76299BE94F4A-C78-1516@WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board ----------MB_8CB76299D1F3FFA_C78_2BC4_WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" =20 Oh, and if you're over the age of 25, feel free to look up Raver Geriatric here on Hyperreal =20 WUT. Three more months and I am officially over the raver hill? Pass the oxygen tank, Andy. -Miss Alida (for only three more months, and then it's Ms. Alida if you're n= asty) =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Nyc Labrets To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 1:37 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board Semper, motehrfalucking Fi. Devil Dog. Ooooh rah. Technically, because I got out of my signed, Contractual Obligations to Preserve, Protect and Defend The US Constitution of the United States of America on 21 Sep 1990, the VA considers me a GW I Combat Vet, only because I was in USMC uniform on 3 Aug 1990 the day Saddam's tanks went a rollin' into Kuwait, on the very fucking DAY my contract went under 100 days and I became a 2 digit midget. doh. Anyways, right now, I'm out of the USA, I'm living in Munich, Germany, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjN6g50avv64 right now, with plans to move t= o Berlin with my GF, Maja, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoAnPgpDERJw on 1 September, 2009, so I can realize my plans to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DcYj1nkwMp4k (if Apollo was still subbed he= re he would *totally* get that Hitler Invades Poland reference), so, like, y'know, dude, you and I should talk further. And if you are so inclined, this is an open invite to=3D2 0come out and visit if you ever hop the pond again and make your way east. Marine Corps Ravers Unite, and shit. Welcome to SFRaves Party, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2kJSq5bo8uI Teufe= l Hund. Oh, and if you're over the age of 25, feel free to look up Raver Geriatric here on Hyperreal, and introduce yourself to Mary W., who is also subbed to SoCal Raves, in case you fall below the minimum age requirement of RG. I'm sure she'd like you. A lot. Peisces, Nyc PS: all you jaded curmudgeons out there, yes, I'm looking @ =C3=9C, Joe Blough.... whatever. KTHXBAIZ!!!!!1!1ses On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM, mike guglielmini wro= te: > where are you at right now? iraq or afghanistan? marine? i miss my days in > the marine corps, wish i could go back. took an m60 round in my ankle and > got my achilles tendon severed when a recon op went south. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, d . k wrote: > > > From: d . k > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:13 PM > > > glad to have another veteran with us. i'm overseas right now; can't wait t= o > get back home. > > please post mixes, i need music. > > -jason > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > > not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. > making money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check=20 every month > and i spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly > what im looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on > clubs tho i do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats > left. anythings got to be better than miami. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: > > > From: George Cochrane > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM > > > > .....In before the curmudgeons! > > > > > SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music > finding its way into bonafide club nights. There are tons of exceptionall= y > good DJs, producers and performers in the area. The UG rave scene is not > blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there a= re > still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outsid= e > the club zone. The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are lik= e > nothing else and a big highlight. > > The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can > afford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already)= . > Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally) > and culture are great. > > -GC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM > Subject: [sfraves] new to the board > > hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like ove= r > there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now > im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here > whatsoever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of th= em > have no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like > over there in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. > > > > > > > > > --=20 Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 =20 ----------MB_8CB76299D1F3FFA_C78_2BC4_WEBMAIL-MC18.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150419-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 06:45:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87844 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 06:45:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87826 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 06:45:08 -0000 Message-ID: <49C1EA05.3080509@defsf.com> Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 23:45:25 -0700 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: juju CC: def-annouce@defsf.com, "sfraves@hyperreal.org" References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Gui Boratto in SF? sure blipswitch iz abuzzin. sounds like it could be a plan. afterparty here at the b-fact if its at blackmarket. juju wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Wondering if anyone is planning to book Gui Boratto when he's on the West > Coast next month? I know he's in Seattle 4/8... anyone? > > ~juju > > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150420-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 16:38:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23011 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 16:38:39 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22984 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 16:38:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 370495.20897.bm@omp109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237480737; bh=xRFuC4a9adbT+tmsCaBidfbuaoHGqLfR1xRBbKXzjcI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=luKw9Lg17eSYrUEeqPsz0NchwtjTnziz6PMp59+vsZlMTPyjzrsxsl3pDxSwGHOaDsJZMSIURhap9gzZEL6WkhOh1U3tCCy3noO56VJGrNMXo2EAXc2NSNxrXO1ypd/IVjR2oqPJatZap55C5mUXSQWrcfODPS45Q37Q3hOX9yM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ThIom1lOUdrrJeRW9Xkj+8T2E+HxLPGnU8NHxjBCn8Y4d2INPksOP2XbRVPItISi6zjupb1brF2elyDGoRRpZFNb/lngEqd2Qkd/JNRcWTA1OcazHkF1lhP2P99qy5R4NdUJ5yyFSC01qASOmHWxgZc1VV1gUf7qBYQFaVx28lw=; Message-ID: <806186.91529.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1RC80LgVM1nyD4dmSzf7EQvgHRglC94z9u8D4G_e9ZaMKd32iPdhKhnyTJvXbtx59tzSr1eUe7WqNLd3.HplHV0lFug51NHPD7qPAtidjuPJya88HHj8fFUH32Sg.bKVml07ZDw0rEuf9jOLOxleQsnAhqy0trDz45y52YXWLBsq_3wv3FGfUJ21AY9uDkGwc6USPXLDI8E_WHVKb6SChzP3YHDEXs758KoVNo4m1kkbKdfauRsFJuPaIQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:38:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1701499798-1237480737=:91529" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0-1701499798-1237480737=:91529 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable that sounds about good enough for me. good to hear the love parade is still= over in europe too. i havent been to it in 4 years. might have to go this = year. i think its around the same time as global gathering which i usually = hit up too. as far as sf scene goes im not really worried about how big it = is just about how good it is. lots of people over here who know nothing abo= ut music and are happy hearing the same tracks played at every club in the = city constantly. this is like top40 dj heaven because thats all they spin h= ere. --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Ray Wong wrote: From: Ray Wong Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 4:36 PM Parallel party, not a relocation.=A0 SFLoveFest not a big as the Love Parade, but our scene is dynamic and friendly.=A0 There are a ton of intimate, smaller parties, rather than big, iconic ones, though there are a handful of well known crews in the area with reputations for their parties. You'll get people who think it's the best, who complain it's nothing like berlin|somewhereineurope, and everything in between.=A0 Really, the biggest thing I can say is that it's what you make it.=A0 If you expect to see or find thousands or even hundreds of like-minded fans around you every weekend, you will likely be disappointed, but in terms of filling the generally smaller venues we've got as we can get them, hey, it's an intense time. -R. On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:38 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > mostly im doing deep trance and hard dance. i can spin house too tho. i t= hink just about anybody can spin house lol. i heard about the love parade b= eing over there for the last few years im not sure why tho. since i was 15 = ive been going to the love parade in berlin. not sure why they moved it to = sf.. hopefully its as good there as it was in germany. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 2:21 PM > > > > Employment picture sucks here right now (I just lost my gig) but the unde= rground scene is great.=A0 Seriously, we're all jaded and forget how lucky = we are to have what we have in SF.=A0 While we don't have anything like WMC= , the Lovefest in September is pretty amazing. > > I guess that's not very curmudgeonly... > > Welcome to the list. > > What sort of music are you playing these days?=A0 Hope you like fog... > > Best, > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:44:18 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > > not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. mak= ing money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and = i spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what i= m looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho= i do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anyth= ings got to be better than miami. > > --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: > > > From: George Cochrane > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM > > > > .....In before the curmudgeons! > > SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music find= ing its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally g= ood DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not = blowing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there ar= e still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outsi= de the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are= like nothing else and a big highlight. > > The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can a= fford it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).= =A0 Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasional= ly) and culture are great. > > -GC > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM > Subject: [sfraves] new to the board > > hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like ov= er there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right n= ow im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatso= ever. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have= no mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over t= here in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. > > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-1701499798-1237480737=:91529-- From sfraves-return-150421-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 16:45:51 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29242 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 16:45:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29224 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 16:45:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 823875.37452.bm@omp113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237481170; bh=ukvIPFsrUr+jrjI/qmRCADNwmj0Dg7cTEtHW9ntudG4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k/VnxwF+5BCuxaLDciaz9YnsZAFbePSfQY3yl2GGbFeflcY4QwmG4D+ig1812RvTADBsC3VucD2Qvm9XALYWSZkC09RzelPM+cBNb9+oTKd9jy86L51DuB+x6USfWs8CgGOtYGl284bmqzy+8Wh/u5tTBNI28ldAB5ddeykBKy4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZS7vMvbWzOVVxuxML4G+Q+P91gS/M8L9wg1VjHKoW/qDCF5/ckQB3jcAcgUAJKpN4RnK/5Vp9+4N0lndHi3oLMIq6NPYMNT20W3Oz/7tkloj77x2X6ONnwSADYKsOIMmcFNd220YneOFzM6L9NqnBIsyWe8IZVwiDHPIJ3iJsQo=; Message-ID: <254355.27355.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2w4s38YVM1lbeRVy3C86raCpdwALnIRtMAeK.WnRszpcca7VUOLM4jAczQjwbpDxmHhc5r0VblTZuxEC14DIesTLw82oAhKR4ifLWV3wu2jtBFIfl_pueFKbPaiVIxoM4ttM0q6pVPeAILBV4eMt83IkMbN8sOLEL7aIP9L82gwgaS2FInOY5tktLRD0a690LS4Qt0psQdngg4MQQiS3qBCbaYMLhgB16x62yypY_3a3PNqOmW1SRxj1KzdRCiVk8bs- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2081415710-1237481169=:27355" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board --0-2081415710-1237481169=:27355 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable semper muthafuckin fi to you too brother. glad to see another marine on her= e. im 27 so i was around for the kuwait war. tho i was around for afghanist= an and iraq in which we got to kill way more shit than they did in the gulf= war. oorah for that. what unit were you with? i was with 1st recon, we wer= e the first to go into afghanistan. ill be over in europe soon i visit engl= and a lot and amsterdam as i have some friends over there. so we can defina= tely get together and go do some damage somewhere. --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Nyc Labrets wrote: From: Nyc Labrets Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 4:37 PM Semper, motehrfalucking Fi.=20 Devil Dog. Ooooh rah. Technically, because I got out of my signed, Contractual Obligations to Pre= serve, Protect and Defend The US Constitution of the United States of Ameri= ca on 21 Sep 1990, the VA considers me a GW I Combat Vet, only because I wa= s in USMC uniform on 3 Aug 1990 the day Saddam's tanks went a rollin' into = Kuwait, on the very fucking DAY my contract went under 100 days and I becam= e a 2 digit midget.=20 doh. Anyways, right now, I'm out of the USA, I'm living in Munich, Germany, http= ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DjN6g50avv64 right now, with plans to move to B= erlin with my GF, Maja, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoAnPgpDERJw on 1 S= eptember, 2009, so I can realize my plans to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v= =3DcYj1nkwMp4k=A0 (if Apollo was still subbed here he would *totally* get t= hat Hitler Invades Poland reference), so, like, y'know, dude, you and I sho= uld talk further.=20 And if you are so inclined, this is an open invite to come out and visit if= you ever hop the pond again and make your way east. Marine Corps Ravers Unite, and shit. Welcome to SFRaves Party, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2kJSq5bo8uI Teuf= el Hund. Oh, and if you're over the age of 25, feel free to look up Raver Geriatric = here on Hyperreal, and introduce yourself to Mary W., who is also subbed to= SoCal Raves, in case you fall below the minimum age requirement of RG.=20 I'm sure she'd like you.=20 A lot. Peisces, Nyc PS: all you jaded curmudgeons out there, yes, I'm looking @ =DC, Joe Blough= ..... whatever. KTHXBAIZ!!!!!1!1ses On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:41 PM, mike guglielmini w= rote: where are you at right now? iraq or afghanistan? marine? i miss my days in = the marine corps, wish i could go back. took an m60 round in my ankle and g= ot my achilles tendon severed when a recon op went south. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, d . k wrote: From: d . k Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 3:13 PM glad to have another veteran with us. i'm overseas right now; can't wait to= get back home. please post mixes, i need music. -jason On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:44 PM, mike guglielmini w= rote: not bad. i was around back when the scenes were good around 96 or so. makin= g money shouldnt be a problem, i get a va benefits check every month and i = spin whenever i can land decent gigs. underground scene is exactly what im = looking for as there is absolutely none here. im not too big on clubs tho i= do go to them a lot just because thats pretty much all thats left. anythin= gs got to be better than miami. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, George Cochrane wrote: From: George Cochrane Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 1:38 PM ......In before the curmudgeons! SF has a pretty vibrant club scene with a lot of "Underground" music findin= g its way into bonafide club nights.=A0 There are tons of exceptionally goo= d DJs, producers and performers in the area.=A0 The UG rave scene is not bl= owing up like it was back in its 90's and early 00's heyday, but there are = still cool parties here and there if you're searching for something outside= the club zone.=A0 The day parties that happen in summertime outdoors are l= ike nothing else and a big highlight. The quality of life is ridiculously good (if you get a good job and can aff= ord it, though I think prices in Miami are close if not on par already).=A0= Food, fun, weather (if you're ok with a little cold and rain occasionally)= and culture are great. -GC ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 8:30:36 AM Subject: [sfraves] new to the board hey peoples. just signed up on here to see what the rave scene is like over= there in cali as i am planning on moving over there really soon. right now= im in miami and this city sucks a lot. theres no edm culture here whatsoev= er. the djs here play the same tracks day after day and most of them have n= o mixing skills at all. can anybody tell me what the scene is like over the= re in sf? from what im reading it looks ok. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --=20 Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell= phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books."= Harper Lee, 2006 =0A=0A=0A --0-2081415710-1237481169=:27355-- From sfraves-return-150422-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 19:38:15 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68978 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 19:38:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68961 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 19:38:13 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=djdragnfly.com; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Identified-User; b=Y0ntVUlwBQLs8AIQOgYNtWJwCJyUVwW1A1I2w/s0Zx4U+oyhPEWMcjg7d3GcDD4v/iotzQiP62xKfW7G4cB8ucTOyZyg+7OKHcE0m6cb8jtxYApslZiW/WjuVIPKPyMj; Message-ID: From: "Dragn'fly" To: "mike guglielmini" , References: <806186.91529.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <806186.91529.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:38:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Identified-User: {:box302.bluehost.com:dina+djdragnfly.com:} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 76.20.45.69 authed with dina+djdragnfly.com} X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside new blood! nice! so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy Torq which happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in town & he sounds like someone who'd might be up your musical alley. I've been to south beach many a time and know how bad and unwelcome most high "brow clubs" can be - but i've found this particular night to be different in that it's a bit more party friendly and the crowd don't seem to have their egos stuck up there ass. Those who know me can verify that this Ruby night must be different than most if they made ME a resident. LOL ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer to you and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make it in their door by 11pm guestspot cut off time) if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the name of your friend if you go & want to bring one). here's a link with some info on it: http://www.rubyskye.com welcome to town & happy livin' `d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150423-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 19:46:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75266 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 19:46:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 75244 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 19:46:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237492003; bh=3+prvb33GD581avvO8Q+EMSRARx9aXoPZl/tqWe4Fn4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EvAgbIL2ki/9yL7Wb/rFDZrbCXbPpJH0lRmZv17OkWFznUG7273l7PC8LUhCxJLEBlRygQvkZcHSXiOrHw0K4/IFicYv59vi/TIaUqmu8JFrVon+bXj6cCnHUh40gqiiuS/oPzjs+DAiT6vBe3mHTpL6FI0sN0nDQSGhMitZuTE= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gxfmSNcMCcRb9pZtkst5GpiHaMZqjCl6L3s79KC0v017kBon/cL02Rg+8hu+qdRqY67+TVUZd4iAylXKJ+tm0vy7cK64ya4VNDIZAjWDzMKlB+KyBRTNi+Cg67XxSXxZ/QPsfeN576j3XJnr/IosA2IrAO0uK89p5WqakiKMbqg=; Message-ID: <359927.78664.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: rnYvV2gVM1nWhpXe9IiavQ1WWpWrlMb5uryAa9xPM3lBgAmRzmtlJGBDSm_EnzPJdDoBKxrvHAWc.NskF4qmb.CxUvo5sOTJ1zDGEZ1rEoPxgizF4StzQl5xtVwgZr2H1Q2AXthLHL.UaWygnozqRQFBlGeUe4Dk1hW6icC3sqSxYXpVwJmn.oK4kvhI2thMKiZGxouaqsFIMu_BJVnY X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.29 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <806186.91529.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:46:42 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Dragn'fly , mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside Dragn'fly bringing it! ----- Original Message ---- From: Dragn'fly To: mike guglielmini ; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 12:38:10 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside new blood! nice! so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy Torq which happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in town & he sounds like someone who'd might be up your musical alley. I've been to south beach many a time and know how bad and unwelcome most high "brow clubs" can be - but i've found this particular night to be different in that it's a bit more party friendly and the crowd don't seem to have their egos stuck up there ass. Those who know me can verify that this Ruby night must be different than most if they made ME a resident. LOL ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer to you and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make it in their door by 11pm guestspot cut off time) if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the name of your friend if you go & want to bring one). here's a link with some info on it: http://www.rubyskye.com welcome to town & happy livin' `d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150424-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 20:36:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8512 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 20:36:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8483 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 20:36:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 693907.65257.bm@omp110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237494981; bh=fiRhjMcmTvsdXyYcpiAzyUFWsg+caQ0+En2eR1+ugsI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ATuL25LbId8O9fIaFL4HsUsDUjvDDMGZlCll8BDb6DdgDu8ALkjStY2aRt9XCKfH2TKYEvhhpbkUPkiP5Z8wRSV4FZ/ul8S5VJQ7xIhmWCRsbAj3IgvJ9QUUTAHGCEzmkS+ss9gn5kOvMptHqSCrCgoiP9+R/kh/DedBj47yEVY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xZkml80XArvpWQjVPQtd/9X1KPakNoYjeQ/AxHaAaFlq61/NBKu/xZ2G8gmpypRu4xz8c6q35JCXsgID6j76iu2UAqfmd3YE6bB2IoPfuM9kKWZrJ8xiljX6PdvXjrhBTIgQSATdFkhL4dqBxBj8bvIMjwqyH4LpX08w7EaUxvQ=; Message-ID: <124565.99282.qm@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2SUIIqcVM1lz9vs7fTyo5mzuMAMRabX89_myoLd4.H.PmMzKvX6Q5PHFkM7bJHBb0hMjkMYL8CzHhP8GKkfDAZoVWuW6_pXjOR8qooxGS_v1WYbIRFPJH6FjBPH_BnC73SznZEl7xX1A4V_UkZXuTYPOQWxmpANbiPnVJBymPXYXn2XjXa6Pntyr.jvqlr0_GmcPVGR.j5WHCj5yJFQtKD9.WJrxBVidkBZLdNPBrgzOtzI50ifJnGDm7gU- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:36:19 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1492771099-1237494979=:99282" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside --0-1492771099-1237494979=:99282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanx for the invite bro but im not actually in sf yet. im not moving until= after wmc and ultrafest --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: From: Dragn'fly Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 3:38 PM new blood! nice! so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy Torq whic= h happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in town & he sounds = like someone who'd might be up your musical alley. I've been to south beach= many a time and know how bad and unwelcome most high "brow clubs" can be -= but i've found this particular night to be different in that it's a bit mo= re party friendly and the crowd don't seem to have their egos stuck up ther= e ass.=A0 Those who know me can verify that this Ruby night must be differe= nt than most if they made ME a resident. LOL ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer to you= and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make it in their do= or by 11pm guestspot cut off time) if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the name o= f your friend if you go & want to bring one). here's a link with some info on it: http://www.rubyskye.com welcome to town & happy livin' `d=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A --0-1492771099-1237494979=:99282-- From sfraves-return-150425-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 20:46:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19623 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 20:46:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19605 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 20:46:02 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=djdragnfly.com; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Identified-User; b=aI7ZTYLNgWD+g0lHymixYCo0rKbBENJ5qHgSNia/Y+egeELpil7ScnHEBnGRh14aXqtHBWt22FeXL7bGTurCi1QGVoRFYQj8i28Sf6coYO10PRhX9MqctcDVLAHyhs/l; Message-ID: <398D5384AC8A48AC8E32D741B30F73FC@OfficePC> From: "Dragn'fly" To: "mike guglielmini" , References: <124565.99282.qm@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <124565.99282.qm@web111110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:46:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16669 X-Identified-User: {:box302.bluehost.com:dina+djdragnfly.com:} {sentby:bopbeforesmtp 76.20.45.69 authed with dina+djdragnfly.com} X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside actually it's sis (but it can be confusing at times 'cause the tomboy in me never vacated when after i hit puberty) i must have missed your intro but it's all good. we'll get you out & about when you're settled over here. in the meantime... beware those brazillian buttlifts ; ) d ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike guglielmini" To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside thanx for the invite bro but im not actually in sf yet. im not moving until after wmc and ultrafest --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: From: Dragn'fly Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 3:38 PM new blood! nice! so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy Torq which happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in town & he sounds like someone who'd might be up your musical alley. I've been to south beach many a time and know how bad and unwelcome most high "brow clubs" can be - but i've found this particular night to be different in that it's a bit more party friendly and the crowd don't seem to have their egos stuck up there ass. Those who know me can verify that this Ruby night must be different than most if they made ME a resident. LOL ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer to you and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make it in their door by 11pm guestspot cut off time) if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the name of your friend if you go & want to bring one). here's a link with some info on it: http://www.rubyskye.com welcome to town & happy livin' `d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150426-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Mar 19 23:03:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19319 invoked by uid 1103); 19 Mar 2009 23:03:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19298 invoked from network); 19 Mar 2009 23:03:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 460350.28464.bm@omp103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237503800; bh=bN5aD1+3grAFtjj9+IJDE5BSysfWsXCD+mKxV6zQAc0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cz5NII0hFgZotntH1pUvyGJ+s3LPyY6/vTmRMHQ683S6AvXco2VJcOht7PDq0q0dWny9FO/DCmSnAMA25bnb8vq5Nh1x3XBTf/G3QFBUq6h0uG0HHT6n0cfT3t3LITmqSNFvhVRRvfVVHbVG1UBI3Y50+3r4xu73DJzZmm9k6UM= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y7GfECE6/Qdf/m9L/lCPzJB1suQFeTISeAFmqd2bkleEK/jijTWcgl4+dBqjUyzDqVAZXmL8BRgiHLu8W5hAvZDbNblIprV+oJaq8rDMCwXfaUyMhKgbNyxw1ngY/7CxL3Zupcu0xZyikZli1tFQKfzdBeOrejfV30DWp5gaK1A=; Message-ID: <397524.27379.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c0UKRWUVM1npqVWx2gWPyimp4FNCBUr7QkKBpn_kljd_r0Zp3mLo0aimaVM7wMQ58B8X.kucRfSjKUL2TBhwyw330esDSir7e.u5kGW5hc6X_f2Lr7KP5wGAbApLkMKhXvhb6L6mYFmrLUNd3NenJ_ETYPrg0qQg4kgzPqiLnubJ2v4MfA0CnnlFjcRy_2Tr0iWbDf_9LXi4xojha5pOaVspNVACZf6b2u6gWqQKaawZAewJGu9vuTH4L_d1csp1Qw02xQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:03:20 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1656818483-1237503800=:27379" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside --0-1656818483-1237503800=:27379 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii lmao. those brazilian butt lifts are everywhere here. sorry about the gender mix up lol definately my bad. ill be over there in like 3 weeks or so. i cant miss ultra which is coming up in a few days. also i need to look around over there for a place to move into and shit. moneys tight as hell right now so i gotta find something cheap. but im glad to have someone over there to intro me into the scene when i get there. im definately looking forward to that. --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: From: Dragn'fly Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 4:46 PM actually it's sis (but it can be confusing at times 'cause the tomboy in me never vacated when after i hit puberty) i must have missed your intro but it's all good. we'll get you out & about when you're settled over here. in the meantime... beware those brazillian buttlifts ; ) d ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike guglielmini" To: Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside thanx for the invite bro but im not actually in sf yet. im not moving until after wmc and ultrafest --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: From: Dragn'fly Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 3:38 PM new blood! nice! so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy Torq which happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in town & he sounds like someone who'd might be up your musical alley. I've been to south beach many a time and know how bad and unwelcome most high "brow clubs" can be - but i've found this particular night to be different in that it's a bit more party friendly and the crowd don't seem to have their egos stuck up there ass. Those who know me can verify that this Ruby night must be different than most if they made ME a resident. LOL ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer to you and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make it in their door by 11pm guestspot cut off time) if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the name of your friend if you go & want to bring one). here's a link with some info on it: http://www.rubyskye.com welcome to town & happy livin' `d --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --0-1656818483-1237503800=:27379-- From sfraves-return-150427-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 03:12:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74416 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 03:12:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 74400 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 03:12:21 -0000 Message-Id: <0C77CAEC-EB3F-4DAE-A7CD-08688E29C476@speakeasy.org> From: Apollo To: SFRaves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--633960353 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:12:40 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Please join the Olazabal family for a Memorial to David Parlier Olazabal --Apple-Mail-10--633960353 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As many of you may know, our good friend and much loved community =20 member Dave Olazabal passed suddenly on January 13th. Also known as =20 Big Rave Dave and Acme Dave, David was well-known for throwing =20 excellent parties like Ascension and Herbonium among others. There will be a memorial for him on Ocean Beach tomorrow night and a =20 picnic on Saturday. Details below (this list doesn't accept =20 attachments so the flier is now text only without maps). Please join =20= us in honoring Dave's memory and sending him some collective love. =20 Forward this information to others who might be interested. Much love, Apollo Please join the Olazabal family for a Memorial to David Parlier Olazabal Friday evening, March 20th at Ocean Beach, in San Francisco; (at the Great Highway and Fulton St.) 937 Great Highway, San Francisco, CA 94122 David Parlier Olazabal November 23, 1979 =96 January 13, 2009 Join us on the beach; between stairwells 15-20 (depending upon =20 availability) Sunset is at about 7:20 pm, and we will be lighting the bonfire around =20= 8:00 pm Please feel free to bring a letter or message for Dave to throw into =20 the bonfire. Directions To The Bonfire =46rom Oakland 1. Take I-880 N to the Bay Bridge 2. Merge onto I-80 W 3. Take exit 1B to merge onto US-101 N 4. Take exit 434B toward Fell St/Octavia Blvd 5. Merge onto Octavia St 6. Turn left at Fell St 7. Turn right at Shrader St 8. Turn left at Fulton St 9. Turn left at The Great Hwy 10. Stairwell 15 is at the parking lot entrance Those unable to attend the bonfire are welcome to attend a potluck memorial for Dave on Saturday, March 21, 2009 at Fort Miley in San Francisco; the picnic will begin at noon. Directions to the Picnic =46rom Oakland follow steps 1-6 of the bonfire directions 7. =46rom Fell St. turn right at Divisadero St. 8. Turn left at Geary Blvd. 9. Continue on Point Lobos Ave. 10. Turn right at El Camino del Mar St. 11. It is a moderate uphill walk from the parking lot to the Fort Miley picnic area at. apollo@speakeasy.org MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/DJApollo Tribenet: http://people.tribe.net/djapollo2k Moksha Tribe: www.mokshatribe.org House Music 101: http://livingart.com/raving/articles/housemusic101.htm =3D Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that =20= you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. =20= Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. =20 Explore. Dream. Discover. Mark Twain - American Author =3D "Come to the edge." "We can't. We're afraid." "Come to the edge." "We can't. We will fall!" "Come to the edge." And they came. And he pushed them. And they flew. Guillaume Apollinaire, 1880-1918 --Apple-Mail-10--633960353-- From sfraves-return-150428-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 05:12:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26988 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 05:12:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 26970 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 05:12:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=fThvPUzBJ/pCNIJB0I5a6u/hkxSpub9uwSv9C1WtWIo=; b=oDeZZ0s7Fag+Ptn7/XDg9nCjtCURjjoM4Gm++VbT1rXVQRB1swO/TWeqGOowtb4RJk w8xw2Pwv1p5mqaHDxO/YjJhzqmunMfJ3gPrU6mhAv3LYlmoGGCujRSwFEAwGayFs03RO MdExHuCBXALorfHloVoYM7naZLcREKtjCokCQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=fI0BkVt8yy8PnnvN2quo/fm4NiuW/6S4ni6a+cpEsf6eIKlOCaqVu+JPbzsXV5BK+h pq6BdsvuyYZD7xtlWJ041n2nsQc00YNmnOMwa0XY1D9fiHMu1kNLDikv1sI3oUvRcy9U nzHrFbe0Tpb5kD+PwCvSNmJL9dcy93PK8yiiQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:12:53 -0700 Message-ID: <3962ab980903192212i7f28a48jd3963a28ee196125@mail.gmail.com> From: Rock It Science To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd110b2080a14046585f83f X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Dirty Secrets Underground this Sat w/Jeno, Andrew Phelan, Eric Sharp (Bday boy) & More --000e0cd110b2080a14046585f83f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Saturday, 3/21/09 | 10 PM - Late | 21 + Rock It Science Presents: Dirty Secrets - Eric Sharp's Bday Edition Dirty Secrets busts out again in a fresh warehouse space perfect for an evening of shenanigans. One of SF's busiest fun-makers, Rock It Science founder Eric Sharp invites all of you to join him in celebrating another year of existence on this lovely planet and has organized a great lineup of DJ friends to throw down in celebration. Come early and stay late as you won't want to miss a beat! DJs for the night: Jeno (Back 2 Back) Andrew Phelan (Prismatic) Eric Sharp (Rock It Science, Flavor Group) Michael Anthony (Supperclub) Bo (Deep Blue) Bass Cadet (Rock It Science) White Girl Lust (Solid Bump) Info Line courtesy of Prismatic (call for location the night of): 888 482 9281 Hope to see you there! --000e0cd110b2080a14046585f83f-- From sfraves-return-150429-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 06:07:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55271 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 06:07:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55028 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 06:07:09 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:07:27 +0000 From: Holt Sorenson To: dcraves@hyperreal.org, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20090320060727.GO7941@hsomusic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] leech ur teknos http://205.127.87.136/~hso/teeth/bki/ grabbed from: http://www.berlin-kreuzberg-institut.com/blog/ you know you wants it. -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150430-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 10:09:52 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89104 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 10:09:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 89087 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 10:09:51 -0000 Message-ID: <20090320051011.f8mizjsackwwccws@webmail.viberation.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 05:10:11 -0500 From: osby@viberation.com To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <397524.27379.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <397524.27379.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside Welcome to the list!!! :) Evil Breaks is coming up on like 4/4th & =20 maybe you'll be here & like you'd like to meet a big amount of SF =20 Ravers.. i'm fer sure that there'll like totally be like alota us =20 there :) Peace=3D-> Just Me=3D-> Osby {8O) Quoting mike guglielmini : > lmao. those brazilian butt lifts are everywhere here. sorry about =20 > the gender mix up lol definately my bad. ill be over there in like 3 =20 > weeks or so. i cant miss ultra which is coming up in a few days. =20 > also i need to look around over there for a place to move into and =20 > shit. moneys tight as hell right now so i gotta find something =20 > cheap. but im glad to have someone over there to intro me into the =20 > scene when i get there. im definately looking forward to that. > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: > > > From: Dragn'fly > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 4:46 PM > > > actually it's sis (but it can be confusing at times 'cause the =20 > tomboy in me never vacated when after i hit puberty) > i must have missed your intro but it's all good. > we'll get you out & about when you're settled over here. > > in the meantime... beware those brazillian buttlifts > > ; ) > > d > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike guglielmini" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside > > > thanx for the invite bro but im not actually in sf yet. im not =20 > moving until after wmc and ultrafest > > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: > > > From: Dragn'fly > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 3:38 PM > > > new blood! nice! > > so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy =20 > Torq which happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in =20 > town & he sounds like someone who'd might be up your musical alley. =20 > I've been to south beach many a time and know how bad and unwelcome =20 > most high "brow clubs" can be - but i've found this particular night =20 > to be different in that it's a bit more party friendly and the =20 > crowd don't seem to have their egos stuck up there ass. Those who =20 > know me can verify that this Ruby night must be different than most =20 > if they made ME a resident. LOL > > ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer =20 > to you and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make =20 > it in their door by 11pm guestspot cut off time) > if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the =20 > name of your friend if you go & want to bring one). > > here's a link with some info on it: > http://www.rubyskye.com > > welcome to town & happy livin' > > `d > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150431-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 12:34:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80532 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 12:34:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 80515 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 12:34:13 -0000 Message-ID: <20090320073433.1zajvimcu8s4s8g0@webmail.viberation.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:34:33 -0500 From: osby@viberation.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <397524.27379.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20090320051011.f8mizjsackwwccws@webmail.viberation.com> In-Reply-To: <20090320051011.f8mizjsackwwccws@webmail.viberation.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Oh yeah... my Tuesday night Reveiw: Shelter OK.. so I got some time to kill while I wait for m Yaya to get here.. =20 so yeah.. like Tuesday night was fuckin' ILL!! I had sooooooo much =20 fun!!! Like the journey there was kidna confuzing... took the buses =20 then the bart & got to the Embarcaderro BART stop.... like I swear =20 man, i always have a hella bad sense of direction when i get off that =20 station, & when I like finally got above ground, I swear I coldn't =20 find like the bus stop for 15 mintues 'cause I didn't know which =20 stairway I went up and what intersection I ended up on... hello2day! So I eventually got to Lower Haight & then went to the pizza place =20 next to UGSF & oh my goodness man... had the best fuckin' pizza... =20 it's called the White Pizza & ooh man... mondo fucki'n yum!! Then =20 after my mini dinner-ish meal... I got an strawberry shortcake ice =20 cream bar & a bag of chocolates @ walgreens cross the street... yeah =20 man.. I wanted to visit Mister Origami, but man, I totally forgot your =20 cell number Homie :( I mean...since I was right there, ya know! But yeah.. the night started @ Shelter & opening DJ did this like hip =20 hop into jungle set, the next DJ, Rayze, was all up in the Liquid =20 Jungle, the tag set w/ Noah & Jett after that, they totally just =20 well... I heard soem Jump Up, but not enough for me to get my groovy =20 on the dance floor... ooh shit... then this like well.. I dunno if =20 he's a newbie DJ to the scene & this was his 1st gig or what, but this =20 dude, Big Sound I think his name was.. fuuuuuckin' a man... homeboy =20 totally busted out all the old school junlge & man... i was dancin' my =20 ass off, well, as much as possible anyway... but yeah... so yum!!! Then the headlining DJ, A-Sides, totally like ummm.. fuck man... HELLO =20 2DAY.. his set was sick... I mean... he fuckin' all over all the sub =20 genres, played everything & made the dance floor hella hyphy... I =20 mean... fuckin' A man... he dropped alota genres I don't normally like =20 get my groovy on to, but the way he mixed them in, like his track =20 selection was fuckin' sick & I coudln't not dance!! It was hella Dope 'cause like MAx, MC DUH, like totally MCed the way =20 he duh-z & made us all on the dance floor more hyphy! LoL.. Hello =20 2day.. so like I told this joke to 1 of the pormoters, 'cause like =20 alota the decorations that night like there were these paper balls =20 hangin' from the ceiling by green ribons... & I just made a joke to =20 like Noah, the promoter dude, "Hey man, there be hella balls hangin' =20 from the ceiling, it's like a fuckin' tea bag party man"... then he =20 started hella laughing & told max & Max yelled that comment onthe mic =20 & eeeeeeeveryone started laughing, it was hella funny man!!! :D So yeah... vibe was sooo good & even if the energy was kinda yucky at =20 one point no wait, a few points during the night, everyohne was Lovin' =20 it!!! It's really nice to see Shelter have it's own following after =20 Phuturo left... but yeah... it was good!! Something lame that happened was well.. ok.. so these 2 like ok.. I'm =20 gonna call them Candy Raver Junglist 1 (CRJ1) & Candy Raver Junglist 2 =20 (CRJ2).. so anywaze, well.. long story short, CRJ1 slept w/ CRJ2's =20 "ex"-gf when they were still like together & stuff... as soon as CRJ2 =20 saw CRJ1, they argue & CRJ2 pops CJR1 in the eye, causing himself to =20 get 86ed... so CJR1 goes outside & they have this mondo arguement on =20 the sidewalk.. so like me & the other oldskoolers are like hangin back =20 by the door watching & kinda laughing 'cause well.. the whole fuckin' =20 premise of them fuckin' fighting was fuckin' lamesauce to 100th degree =20 man... CRJ1 & 2 even had their other friends get involved & they wre =20 yelling at each other too...Hello 2day... b ut yeah.. since CRJ2 =20 didn't have a ride home, he was jsut there on the sidewalk like just =20 waiting for the night to end so his ride could take him home... =20 eventually CRJ1 (I mean.... this like tiny scrawny skinny 5'3-4 lil =20 Latino dude) he got totally wasted & 86ed from the owner of UGSF.. it =20 pretty entertaining actually to watch all that!! :) But yeah... so it was a totally good night & the Jungle... HELLO =20 2DAY!!!! The journey home now.. that was pretty interesting... I =20 walked to Powell bart from Lower Haight & like well.. I stopped of @ =20 the donut joint on Van Ness & Market & got a strawberry quick bottle & =20 a mondo jumungo cinnimon bun.. yum... ok... some guy, like homeless =20 druggie strung out on crack dude, offered me sex for some change =20 'cause he said he hasn't eaten in days... & i was like =20 Heeeeeeeeeeeelll Naaaaaaaaaw & I said "Dude, if you laid off the =20 fuckin' crack pipe & actually ate, then you wouldn't be hungry!" Then =20 when i was alsmot @ the station, some other homeless crack head asked =20 me for change so he can go home to SanJose 'cause he's been stuck in =20 the City for the past month... yeah... whatev... well... by 6:15AM I =20 was home... it was a good night!!! :) Oh... Yaya says Hello SF Rers! She misses y'all!! Yaya aka Delia aka =20 KittyCat Peace=3D-> Just Me=3D-> Osby {8O) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150432-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 13:52:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46553 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 13:52:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46521 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 13:52:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 208591.57872.bm@omp109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237557142; bh=348zZx04sapkk2HwcuInjJTek5tHzYmCxuESV4UaBAk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hyAKbbzToW3t+MsXDAt/cE+chuSTcwBbBrjoryFLWU6oYQLrzH0OcpwNHXLqTaa8eIE9K7ezMN8Osi7xW+x1LqR2t+1yMBLXVgLtQsUZ+RifVHc+wrhY3o83SA19puS/twyUzsb+gATU2goWI+QqZNkkpPt3m3LwLsp/LiiXJJg= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wxa/z0o1BHXk02wmkq8PrdUby7yINJoERyIu7iCHmdhHJt7Axxm30bkHZroJAWiDtOUHhIMj880Q3hnvFsBKSl0L1/pYlqVUbjKhoxZCoOr93v622VjbUYIzL5EfQc2RcmczUX5Vv14W4VO7tHthntEzBCShSdcvZfHUInp6jvY=; Message-ID: <593815.84652.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: RUCjQC0VM1mMGa._FlJNMw7H7VM4.XytyJJ2wU4jpbxhiSlpANkDrxkc_RGSy1uEu42GOeYBYT1SGalPlPT5YdKpA8qFuYojIQ.e3spNWf_qk.TKp6JbsPHzhFVMS.ZCm7qn5DZMyqF3xlkPvrhcN6RQZs1nxD5IlwVdKXcE4RKKODQMz2xtCSf9PJnNSxu4ZOwLOg8hjBu.pHcIs1UJSeqLMvoJ1NZBjPhlqoAftt03_56X.h3FZU_.Vv0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 06:52:22 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-490397881-1237557142=:84652" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside --0-490397881-1237557142=:84652 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just might be there by then. definately looking forward to it. right now = im working on coming up with the money to get over there an shit as soon as= that happens ill be on my way over. moneys hard to make now unfortunately.= thanks to this recession shyt. --- On Fri, 3/20/09, osby@viberation.com wrote: From: osby@viberation.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 6:10 AM -----Inline Attachment Follows----- Welcome to the list!!! :)=A0 Evil Breaks is coming up on like 4/4th & maybe= you'll be here & like you'd like to meet a big amount of SF Ravers.. i'm f= er sure that there'll like totally be like alota us there :) Peace=3D-> Just Me=3D-> Osby {8O) Quoting mike guglielmini : > lmao. those brazilian butt lifts are everywhere here. sorry about=A0 the = gender mix up lol definately my bad. ill be over there in like 3=A0 weeks o= r so. i cant miss ultra which is coming up in a few days.=A0 also i need to= look around over there for a place to move into and=A0 shit. moneys tight = as hell right now so i gotta find something=A0 cheap. but im glad to have s= omeone over there to intro me into the=A0 scene when i get there. im defina= tely looking forward to that. >=20 > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Dragn'fly > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 4:46 PM >=20 >=20 > actually it's sis (but it can be confusing at times 'cause the=A0 tomboy = in me never vacated when after i hit puberty) > i must have missed your intro but it's all good. > we'll get you out & about when you're settled over here. >=20 > in the meantime... beware those brazillian buttlifts >=20 > ; ) >=20 > d >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike guglielmini" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:36 PM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside >=20 >=20 > thanx for the invite bro but im not actually in sf yet. im not=A0 moving = until after wmc and ultrafest >=20 > --- On Thu, 3/19/09, Dragn'fly wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: Dragn'fly > Subject: Re: [sfraves] new to the board - gift offer inside > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 3:38 PM >=20 >=20 > new blood! nice! >=20 > so mike, i recently hooked up a residency at the Ruby Skye monthy=A0 Torq= which happens to be going down tonight. Marcus Schossow is in=A0 town & he= sounds like someone who'd might be up your musical alley.=A0 I've been to = south beach many a time and know how bad and unwelcome=A0 most high "brow c= lubs" can be - but i've found this particular night=A0 to be different in t= hat it's a bit more party friendly and the crowd=A0 don't seem to have thei= r egos stuck up there ass. Those who know me=A0 can verify that this Ruby n= ight must be different than most if they=A0 made ME a resident. LOL >=20 > ALSO... i just came upon 2 extra guestspots, which i'd like to offer=A0 t= o you and a friend (but plz accept only if your sure you can make=A0 it in = their door by 11pm guestspot cut off time) > if you're down, just hit me back by 3pm today with the word (and the=A0 n= ame of your friend if you go & want to bring one). >=20 > here's a link with some info on it: > http://www.rubyskye.com >=20 > welcome to town & happy livin' >=20 > `d >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 =0A=0A=0A --0-490397881-1237557142=:84652-- From sfraves-return-150433-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 14:09:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59570 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 14:09:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 59553 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 14:09:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 150034.55846.bm@omp103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237558208; bh=MqiE0awxJ4m05xxeRlxeaOiKb0WQUIpTotaFc8w6WM0=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kPT33Ji2DLdUZLllF+f24btti0eiyeBwbggJ4jQ8B/dqZuxIyBikiOOgLm4SSM32NtF462SGx8PY10bhNIiO3NdhwytwS9hqgbHXKKnwE0w52zBoBF2SsERWh46z/trbkH3oLnWx4hSioW898Bae9BDU/wXJwJgCvHpdjT/JTCU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5gfL7kNPGb/nDMoxummNW/v9kLuxcgbvwB+GpASqwSRUoNNmadTEKeiWD7p6GaFAPYoMqNPMQJu+QqtH5aRRTSpnafrUcxuhQEdSbHPxL5q4rcpfmL96nL+8NX76MGE04UEM9lFBhjSDBXZSpKuuvsZ4yN6HN+0HCsxGoIhYKKs=; Message-ID: <862618.81769.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: MBWOGpAVM1kXayglcX5dRy4n2Tz3xnwFMYoXAcVSoy1Ctc93eG9GH7Fwj1G4WiXCYAkBsvd_9wX7BIEbuySDhNKZW7Q9R65cEW.Ur4sxedr3fMHrt5FCLW8v0GHTQ38rjy8VNWPG38G3h24I3N.YcKm0OBEpOAYk6.1K27aOCxDvDxb7uRyYH6OWx0d0_PGAwEyUxmC7Hkdnxl0I__ZJ3f3ym6ATqA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:10:08 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1416998508-1237558208=:81769" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] medical marijuana --0-1416998508-1237558208=:81769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii so whats up with it over there? is it easy to get it prescribed or what? --0-1416998508-1237558208=:81769-- From sfraves-return-150434-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 14:23:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71745 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 14:23:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 71726 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 14:23:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 856575.1708.bm@omp113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237559006; bh=VbdVyyn7+0FsYBy3cRV7PXfQWZdBMp4iWkxrmOBTz+8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x8X8f4qQSeG5ZqNwVvpzlcCZItK4gKJW+EnXdUl0zBJ6NU/ftFYuld+U2IaUFnOgkNjKm3YteX6aNjADci33fhqqkHbZ2uDpQK1/EdU4oac9IxFD4tEzfLa+BNJ20878L+NG6XSq/snYlt1Z2MTW/GfzqhTV/mbiqs802H6mMx8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NNxTrM0apBEQCEsFqoYZ5rLrIhph23NOf5rbgPK5iqv5GrNFJ20L93t0R7wXn4rb+jf0ZEl8IipUSd/rPziZrOBLX55IRAnxnRajWwBDVTr5at6Eta+cqqHlQHLhNAt7uqdP02Zi4sdeR8pIpmVtfrE1cVWR2WmQiV5GqGfiWFU=; Message-ID: <300992.52972.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0boitJkVM1lTmoqYGPcsSGeAGWhkwsotUMgQu0xpfgZh6NZ2Unj3AjFHbXuo3VyohVHODV2IlLq6XxBrKVOgbjJooPLt5b9_jTPx6JOSEtJ.ZMh3jrxYdTJe4dF9smKH2qzNGegJYm_iIZjhm0bOsaHa3cTHC4SZBm3G4KI9cU4ynRjowTdP.DcIAgX0Gs8J6MCvx.If_FJ1YuavNlk- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:23:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-418140530-1237559006=:52972" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf --0-418140530-1237559006=:52972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and it takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get into the parties over there in sf. --0-418140530-1237559006=:52972-- From sfraves-return-150435-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 14:42:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93655 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 14:42:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93635 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 14:42:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237560162; bh=RvpGewGgvT1z7mAbK0WHbxpkiLH7+ByI7ziRmE3qVwc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UeWu8Vs3BrEluNIJGBNOGDNH/bFRiBYkNWXqRtR013hMGUbYgqJoz0ID9xfve56dwdagPIb5yxXmXe0aXKV2pbiwNi5n+lnn5zqS4JBAxZCVQlXQW3xfjRgp/OdDSo419ZGXsn9UNYZG0oeqCO1DZI3OfP5C2y2DLiXg5KzZG4g= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RMqsk8ZvNfhQ0VYiFwTBFCIxzkzYPgU+RC1P3UEExuDiFHWYFewNYrAgxDiwK3W7qAzUCSYwl7yTUx8bzT6NNSpg9RrQsuj+SBCWHzZQHlYV37F7KDHuBgoTTMisrO97gD93mGH/g0snHDIPW/EWX3zjkX95OtBqM6AduUaFk14=; Message-ID: <784338.33348.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NE5FDsAVM1nQwGTT0tfxsF3DJAoptji70ZFdLA9liIEQ0ai4_aoNNTSLzNqkJ5QU_PVG0tK_2pA093qoXj0zMnJ3Pzhlr7Ug_c.uuWx5MNo7.pdqkKkhF3MU5lfqJv4Io78QnfeIGdP1.dr65TdDH_NfwjfNvaMy7SWFhcWEYSNq2Bu0_qLKYGk_n7Sur3mdzULvr0C3KO6wQJsosZ4- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <300992.52972.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:42:42 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <300992.52972.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf Undergrounds or clubs? Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed than Miami or other east coast locations about this. In the underground anything goes. Just ask one of the naked dudes with nothing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. And you have no ID? Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting part of your story... Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and it takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get into the parties over there in sf. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150436-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 14:48:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1742 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 14:48:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1714 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 14:48:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 943796.67855.bm@omp107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237560530; bh=uabV++p88qDl+yfwB2JRCXYFa33z+H64GC9and6suRg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oJK05AEzigwG/xyNSHADofL+ZkuRBiwMvFgtODHL+AD0DlZ5LP+HjsZfBKe/omQm75236CuHZNEKH2wNkHu57+cM9P09UfglYRTD0rlWl9fN0FpxZNoyBqojid0pWWYvt+MVJi3tQGYs6RHSvrKz7zWM4hURu0adn4prmR2jDW8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mXYXjldIoFcQ9xlNo0m4TG5LRKabZoNH3qLM8GMo+vU7XATSsDkAaHSZDm/iLyAjU2l1N8NJbQVz0rx2vKacsCY7AMDPhaMWJJrS8ebm6DMGwU05HGj0hMwRWZklaDrIsfTmlZCSkpx73LwWafV5g7kkRxzNnRQvnRHRpqz9Myo=; Message-ID: <41904.99954.qm@web111115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dMcdJhkVM1mTd0EXI9iJQg6xoSkUZs_B5BAZcCGl5SkBAjW6S8QgerkgDthB39lP2dMDR_DK8gmI5ktTT6UeOs3T7drudTDC_pJnha9bZD8fOjY6XPkAuZk2UHnJcU.QABc8CN7dkeJC.Qb3W11hetf1uKisR4uHNsDR_FSqVroEAQOsgiotF5RpbSBTfcbgNPIM1XrKyTktkR8ktTgCFNjW9se3sficT86TFjM6i6NcSe3XRK68hOehaMXOraaww1GM X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 07:48:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1115220820-1237560529=:99954" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf --0-1115220820-1237560529=:99954 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable interesting how? as in maybe im underage or something? definately not. i do= nt even look that young. and i have 8 years of service in the military. i c= an get an id here but its gonna take too long. im tryin to leave asap. --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 AM Undergrounds or clubs? Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed tha= n Miami or other east coast locations about this. In the underground anything goes.=A0 Just ask one of the naked dudes with n= othing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. And you have no ID?=A0 Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting p= art of your story... Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits ju= st to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is how= easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago and = out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and it ta= kes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get into th= e parties over there in sf. =0A=0A=0A --0-1115220820-1237560529=:99954-- From sfraves-return-150437-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 15:07:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21514 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 15:07:38 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 21496 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 15:07:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gxhof8I5BKXoKkkd9avOhWTMiPTZyaV/6UpeDjeaJ/M=; b=hZr7gbGe5Y+qFIJwHyaOPb0DLNcKkZM4TKsux6GFevnQcugwSe0x7x4FMaD/FlE8m+ bSY5OoZZ/yYB7YcqancOC2mqXzjIUfgJEsopFlmD6kzuGsI1ifsslpDBU2E2gXo72kCI IogfAsvtR1ByX+K8L+XgrYKrGhT+bUWxhNy7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=S1A4WI2FuRZLW/aNpEUtzCnCMn9GgUgQvUWJfdv2okFwm9/jy4cOHmKIZxBwK3rTmh WyJmZOgiJFetDdDbQVe9BNI+bGc8+zqKKV9qSPFWLbvsmThjG2YVeOw+2MHkxGQ9A+lk LYf+2z3NR4tWKLg+QppOFlfOGHUN4Q5rSZg28= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <41904.99954.qm@web111115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <41904.99954.qm@web111115.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:07:57 -0400 Message-ID: <3c932fe30903200807u16d76bd9k7db0eeb99156ed0e@mail.gmail.com> From: Matthew Phillips To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163645731e33bd6a04658e48a9 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf --00163645731e33bd6a04658e48a9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would think that getting a new ID is as easy as http://express.hsmv.state.fl.us/ It took less than a week for my new ID to show up. ------------------------- http://blip.fm/profile/kestrachern On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > interesting how? as in maybe im underage or something? definately not. i > dont even look that young. and i have 8 years of service in the military. i > can get an id here but its gonna take too long. im tryin to leave asap. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 AM > > > > Undergrounds or clubs? > > Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed > than Miami or other east coast locations about this. > > In the underground anything goes. Just ask one of the naked dudes with > nothing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. > > And you have no ID? Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting > part of your story... > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM > Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > > are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits > just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is > how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago > and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and it > takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get into > the parties over there in sf. > > > > > --00163645731e33bd6a04658e48a9-- From sfraves-return-150438-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 15:13:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28200 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 15:13:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 28181 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 15:13:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 804879.12815.bm@omp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237562031; bh=UPDTTRd5dRLAL2DUXNmbqd/6ZnZ+uY4YRGoZ3yTni5w=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QzCI1gQG630c9KxSHRj+MloiwqEnWHVnpfBSXol1zG3A2fM6CWXfRyoW/PiUgfhPZMDKhwhl9IQXCaVyNcw9HPX8oheHgJ40vzHMz2Lb8wWxAqrrk9a5QgipcCNBDlWU1gaZTFaN7TaSzNPJqhKpm2ckiYxT023XpqnUAPPk7+E= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nObhhOX57fGZEdQ9+apfPXjMFJ4+qS2n+RY/BHuGnhdn0Qf0F4pSSaNYj+ggJd5z1UQPIN/5diUq7yrbQ6RWV1qUPYqr/pCEGLV68CNdh2W7nP2yO9kdZzckk8udcmnNJNkS91JRGzXF5w22j0cc7e60mNd2yj6b1B+A33mZXjQ=; Message-ID: <985047.75550.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 24symEkVM1ldqy4RycP4IZbvN9vVUb_BHCVFRb5hu0pL1vv0QAYr4YTYMxGtzKHKE21hnJEey2B5jq5JI48V0h0HaZxWFNYHqaQop7hRooAuuysyueJFTWxoRFbzqwG2A_C_tgZrZChw1Dk18PFtzXrfkcJTSjGCBbOOsHlkpoLszoI20HYfNKCwDeb4zYJa5pscwcslTaJNuiYlypCfv8_hfLLCzvCGQ4YCxlQByv3vQNAxbQ-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:13:51 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2131684528-1237562031=:75550" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf --0-2131684528-1237562031=:75550 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not that easy man. i didnt have a fl id you can only order it online like t= hat if you already had an fl id. my id is from md --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matthew Phillips wrote: From: Matthew Phillips Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:07 AM I would think that getting a new ID is as easy as http://express.hsmv.state.fl.us/ It took less than a week for my new ID to show up. ------------------------- http://blip.fm/profile/kestrachern On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM, mike guglielmini w= rote: > interesting how? as in maybe im underage or something? definately not. i > dont even look that young. and i have 8 years of service in the military.= i > can get an id here but its gonna take too long. im tryin to leave asap. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 AM > > > > Undergrounds or clubs? > > Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed > than Miami or other east coast locations about this. > > In the underground anything goes.=A0 Just ask one of the naked dudes with > nothing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. > > And you have no ID?=A0 Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting > part of your story... > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM > Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > > are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits > just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is > how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago > and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and= it > takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get int= o > the parties over there in sf. > > > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-2131684528-1237562031=:75550-- From sfraves-return-150439-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 15:35:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47534 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 15:35:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 47517 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 15:35:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 436375.25502.bm@omp110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237563368; bh=dP+7qFWmMKXIndp/coETQtp8lDFkReBRhF5fW5zs/iA=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RmFrIxsNJJ/lG28uJuKHP6PNz0bc2a19GhSkF69Ab2VGibNHUd85ueWGDz7vMOIT4C33KWjRDjVT+x9+Wk9b/jVJoOI9yy6waiTnq5TUSu8X8MT1DP5VllI9bSg6aN2J6TeLx44xh0JcYhgdGQzF0Z4k2/Ag1FOQdcpKJqVxBmc= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6Yt1aIso+4Qfk+lzRZHNl/F9j2DoBsEpdep712wMOUcssA2AH0K47pFu0CrUfaX/jQAEJtnMpsmnzN17o9kBIDaa7Jlo20QXXIqnMSrsP1pPvLG1+1ZHgt+RFxfdKa/JUb4DNym238r7/5M8pwXE9GvYWLu01tu+vIFt8wnXcOQ=; Message-ID: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aPDOYvMVM1kPrp5qIK_yWlJJeS4iDp0A1rGZk.CU8tG0_KabbDdVrjQnb_mkomOt6uOxTGtjzkyAIz4OF8VJvn0hd2LcQOZY59sxAOTHWvI7FqGJdBwg1RPzcNir1W2l5WEarTtKCmGIWc8BZNxLatOhI468fjK33hKFdf_U2SEz2GT65u8tqcElhz2Fw93BcQhgaURua..F0M0n_lA- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:36:08 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1020375568-1237563368=:8492" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1020375568-1237563368=:8492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that are collecting dust right now. --0-1020375568-1237563368=:8492-- From sfraves-return-150440-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 15:46:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60340 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 15:46:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60320 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 15:46:20 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=berkeleyrecords.com; h=Received:References:Message-Id:From:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Cc:X-Identified-User; b=JwfeSVnNxE4WO/2qbmMEr/N8inpAHKQvuD+wZQEXmuxKBziGDNAgJTiVUxamxZWLib8bdIOX7qsylaINXVS2a5NtrshExCYGmyfxe0fhjEOmpPawnPaOq3OWAT9MKLr8; References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <2473489E-675B-4AB0-86EB-0660DD60F082@berkeleyrecords.com> From: "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" In-Reply-To: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5G77) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 08:46:35 -0700 Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Identified-User: {2918:host352.hostmonster.com:berkele4:berkeleyrecords.com} {sentby:smtp auth 166.190.85.4 authed with jimip@berkeleyrecords.com} X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Can of worms now open On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? > are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their > sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are > outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me > nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of > musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt > then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that are > collecting dust right now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150441-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:08:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81303 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:08:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81284 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:08:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237565331; bh=Wz9LOspnIPONfCWAy9HOcDYrOjIkY8JgDR59z6bsiW4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0XNiR/2fU7LT4RE26jvYUCsmmhOKyDSUbKjMfC5xJJ6cUnw08osPFiatJGf94PA1PAoAD/QJWUewvxYCfRtI5cvG8pjnxRogpYHjZFsQi45LBgS0qPhzfXTPdm03pZMv15GvgBmwmmmAUbhofGgzFvKHx7CO/Wv2RnIlAXrOQ5w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=juVIZ6bUKBlquwiMGhlUtfYQwYVXKXV8FbBNy2bZtbxbjzu9Pi8MImlSptLBYkrmx0wxJCeWe8YLPlWoXy5ZPxZidldXj3TItPQ76eHuXZWTB3QkXOVxDDTQZdrHZbgch/EYYNuLOBF0i/swzjHXjp4yu+bPX8J59bHwScrgHP8=; Message-ID: <704864.45661.qm@web32405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hdwnA6sVM1nOVTOOEE2GUkqR56gr27bN859JGjRxS19JjPcNPat1.fRHprDwUcjPDPIvt3MKaOWzrEWl1dAKD1LfSLgTB.tvpoEtZghZItzyCYic6uZUUdTztO52N72mDGm1Ay3o3vCZIExtOL0FZFiaKyMjmKqW.0JllJ7GAhshaN.hjYFxc6W1Vm0YV9.qzcA4QQt5434- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <985047.75550.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:08:51 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <985047.75550.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf Its easy to get a California ID if you already have the source or breeder documents such as a birth certificate etc. If you don't have those and you've lost your MD ID, you might have issues. But that's not just going to be a California issue; you'll have this problem everywhere. FWIW until recently I worked for a company in the business of detecting false identity documents. So I am familiar with CA and other state regulations in this area. Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:13:51 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf not that easy man. i didnt have a fl id you can only order it online like that if you already had an fl id. my id is from md --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matthew Phillips wrote: From: Matthew Phillips Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:07 AM I would think that getting a new ID is as easy as http://express.hsmv.state.fl.us/ It took less than a week for my new ID to show up. ------------------------- http://blip.fm/profile/kestrachern On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > interesting how? as in maybe im underage or something? definately not. i > dont even look that young. and i have 8 years of service in the military. i > can get an id here but its gonna take too long. im tryin to leave asap. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 AM > > > > Undergrounds or clubs? > > Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed > than Miami or other east coast locations about this. > > In the underground anything goes. Just ask one of the naked dudes with > nothing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. > > And you have no ID? Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting > part of your story... > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM > Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > > are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits > just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is > how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago > and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and it > takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get into > the parties over there in sf. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150442-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:10:18 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83470 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:10:17 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 83449 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:10:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 877717.20629.bm@omp107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237565437; bh=9lYqezadOm/OAR0IaxDJmiv/yg0+GCFAsxcuII/LT50=; h=Message-ID:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Hyf/ykDLDJXCtg1YtUeUG7a2dSPkbHpRzCl8vdSn9fBBTX1Sx56oV6qN/L1BVvvS+WKxwbvspwh6vVnflePj4i+PpJRkJnU0Xyunp3gUBRFcvEeuk/AEo2skNoRKriykRrj66jfgdL5lVMsRL+Mtyi+7p3wffBwH4hMaYZ/O0Hs= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pl4I0hza/Hv5eMr5MjQm4E+syAu3Gzi9ZIQRbUPDf/xg4934Zv2nSai2lS5ROsPzQOnDq8XxzdVPVlwPPv1OXSW4+u9gLbo7/e3XJqJXHYsmauO8phw1gqx8OhErpwLuJ8Irqg5K5AjdbcZjBpXM+yo29yHpXA9LHd3RztVztI4=; Message-ID: <78556.73298.qm@web111112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:10:37 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-799200049-1237565437=:73298" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-799200049-1237565437=:73298 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii lmao. did i just sit my happy ass down in front of the firing squad or what? --- On Fri, 3/20/09, jimip@berkeleyrecords.com wrote: From: jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:46 AM Can of worms now open On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that are collecting dust right now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --0-799200049-1237565437=:73298-- From sfraves-return-150443-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:12:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86090 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:12:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 86066 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:12:30 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 557827.70417.bm@omp110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237565569; bh=/Z5EQIo6zTHAhVvWuLiVqlgnRpUWsg/WAq83HcKZ9Tw=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Frrii+euzJVkGbD8VmZ3B/gF0kAU/u+Eth9wyo+4avpwPqGxEj0aSbz/USnHdt6IcIVcTC2IiBdAP5L3K5kCgIBQpWRaCQlk0t6ZgUSFAJMAQ2c1qbFsgbVV6KvhM10GAnVsU+TN4Nx1r5sIfQJgYR/Jg0J0ycaA+9dLF6XvR0s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cyO9J2c+4M3he9Njs6B2ghoA/XRzFyGcTnF+tJFOvUVz2S8B6ybl/KE9AA5EPbOmeSvE6TwfFgZhLMOTLr/IH44q/chFGxrPzzFP6PHxtb3sWoqBmjXopOslMYS8zOaso1kOPdlj3nBYsC3txknysMYKHFEbXNvouxc/NA7Q3EI=; Message-ID: <996726.32434.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GOznoxoVM1lurJ6W5ZrPZ5F__PAl4D.B6A.UDRQFFsx9oU2wC6YTWBVSjuAON77zshLSE0pZsaqKUWSl0SrZovtR_4KBf2nSWCKS6TlBVWDjZRR5MkRaGeUEmydvI7mR4ME84gqZE8ofZpqPCJ5EVrw8n42JB.Um.GDjEsh0h3ZT8w58K7JVc9CNF1A4YI.HuoitjfBnnaTZ8rWurfZ25DCe6uRGwjaF6cCvLea6Vu0Q0hTvXA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:12:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1181297998-1237565569=:32434" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf --0-1181297998-1237565569=:32434 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thats kind of what i thought i ordered a copy of my birth certificate a few= days ago but that shit takes like a month to come. do you know if my dd-21= 4 form from the military will work? --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:08 PM Its easy to get a California ID if you already have the source or breeder d= ocuments such as a birth certificate etc.=A0 If you don't have those and yo= u've lost your MD ID, you might have issues.=A0 But that's not just going t= o be a California issue; you'll have this problem everywhere. FWIW until recently I worked for a company in the business of detecting fal= se identity documents.=A0 So I am familiar with CA and other state regulati= ons in this area. Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:13:51 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf not that easy man. i didnt have a fl id you can only order it online like t= hat if you already had an fl id. my id is from md --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matthew Phillips wrote: From: Matthew Phillips Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:07 AM I would think that getting a new ID is as easy as http://express.hsmv.state.fl.us/ It took less than a week for my new ID to show up. ------------------------- http://blip.fm/profile/kestrachern On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM, mike guglielmini w= rote: > interesting how? as in maybe im underage or something? definately not. i > dont even look that young. and i have 8 years of service in the military.= i > can get an id here but its gonna take too long. im tryin to leave asap. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 AM > > > > Undergrounds or clubs? > > Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed > than Miami or other east coast locations about this. > > In the underground anything goes.=A0 Just ask one of the naked dudes with > nothing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. > > And you have no ID?=A0 Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting > part of your story... > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM > Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > > are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits > just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is > how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago > and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and= it > takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get int= o > the parties over there in sf. > > > > > =0A=0A=0A --0-1181297998-1237565569=:32434-- From sfraves-return-150444-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:13:24 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87757 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:13:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 87739 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:13:23 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=q76ZPYYs9xUL2iDAEklNVSrSmYbS3Pbgyemh0pUcovg=; b=Mu9Hm9hf0rgSIFZ78JvkDnyhbMyp2ircK8EDTkKI/VLcFTEr7dh9Qo57V8OJdihBmY aGv/z3682HHQz/u++ntLJOQDemgmoJ+eKq499crhKTt87jkp0WnE9gzLbalztz/aUz5w 6v2HOitcbPybYtzZ5QdMYi+v9mogXLVE0iFWE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dsy7PDqu0CY43lYG/m4ehXgH43P6EQ84j0FaBRfgT+EM8IsB1idqh60Gnjvzg5JiUb Xirjs3rWol6h52g3/cJDOxPLe9nuNI1Adr+7Trm+1t8kbsLdR3XXQAepFtRk+/oNXzRe 2mNZ5l2BUfiHe0eQ9iR3RPT4ZfWIW7MUbr+Is= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <862618.81769.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <862618.81769.qm@web111113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:13:44 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2549c6bc63d04658f335f X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] medical marijuana --000e0cd2549c6bc63d04658f335f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah it is pretty easy. Get a copy of your medical records and set up an appointment with a pot doc (medicann is pretty good). They'll make a judgment call if anything in your medical history warrants being prescribed marijuana for (they have pretty loose standards). Medicann's website: http://www.medicannusa.com/ On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:10 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > so whats up with it over there? is it easy to get it prescribed or what? > > > --000e0cd2549c6bc63d04658f335f-- From sfraves-return-150445-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:15:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91603 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:15:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 91581 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:15:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237565778; bh=NEkW7O+0iZxSRdJKyBtwXYBW/VDSNZ+DE+vrtWmNQkI=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ik/PlaH7xzsq5s00xGKBsdkDQbEszxIkR5c62ugjKGqfzEhYXVrB9NUQTA1In1sz172sf5BDC1Q3lXbf4/+j4Z1/fQKZxw1hrIxBAPnOVJv+4156vmo3yBCVGIAXAdAEm/NRL1Y0bRsWi43XNA5BwqLPY3vSfQph1BmWjvHUglk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZPj50f1OFVbQorJ9micc0WgTyTJkJ/np5ITa3M5zMqQNcl+siSwg4ipAuWV7sXIzffxCmEIAuMLVXwGn46rJNhOvUGlFEdctPc2oKIwSAFJcpGtkWHbWGZ0eMhUDe9cXUjnvz4AKxBOVZ2WsRNZkPVOHa6uQRri5l0risOanaqU=; Message-ID: <842882.218.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0rcSCA4VM1mcrC8LNFoBQ5MSa7Hfd62.yXB82C_wCl6iVcMyl82ZyXBO0zrfwFnuwQpbyJ0gWX6vlLuHsPLMUtchhjKvAce5lyxbUkPI47W7YcgtTFnyeLDpPsZVDvNuysKaf20M7Eq9JMwWnoV0DdnFWYQx_3kv0bYsw0F5AXsEdNjEiDB9HQHIWOQVD2UGSkwScKbxo3udBOWILgkipGl7ksd1MpWI3dVK6_8XmyxSB.Hoo0qLPwHA X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2473489E-675B-4AB0-86EB-0660DD60F082@berkeleyrecords.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:16:18 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" In-Reply-To: <2473489E-675B-4AB0-86EB-0660DD60F082@berkeleyrecords.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Well, a lot of people have been switching recently I think. The primary issues seem to be portability and cost. The laptop interfaces have gotten better of course as well. I'm just a hobbyist, but with the economy I'm not investing in anything new right now so still vinyl for me. SF has been a vinyl mecca for a long time, but I think that time may be fading...see for example the recent demise of Open Mind and the rework at Tweekin' records here. The days when we had half a dozen dance oriented vinyl stores are gone forever. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:46:35 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Can of worms now open On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that are collecting dust right now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150446-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:16:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93823 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:16:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 93804 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:16:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=pG6Kk4h/7+kpi36XIFuIXlG1LjzeuODqbmVMUchXQP4=; b=K4boXBhDQY078Vlcom2AZXGMOmB4QZCbYtALO09xrmA+7EvF+jvedxV0x9XLUpBRFf d3Vp0ZoEU6xnFYFUPtNR7Q9iKqKGEvcor6zk/BhbMIIDm45viwpfhZUQTHZyWkjFycPX Gj050r1oumiSnte/VKIFaBcQdNlWOXbP4APkU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=COEB7MTMy4ntjMMcSiTftHR0PTjHN+9SKvTwyvLX2D+icR9AQyWoevXKq0eZdoGc4S zs3pcZw0u3pmXNNL7I9POC5T5PZszcNhnjmakfKPCxfTS97d7r799BrRmWODdtg6wFEh wL08CrJSJhDURNsujAr9dZf1FjmcCqfMPsrkw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:17:14 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd28e84ed2e2e04658f3f71 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd28e84ed2e2e04658f3f71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why it matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl solution. The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching for you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is borderline ;) However, there is one case where I think having software align all the beats for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. Just my $0.02 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's > that are collecting dust right now. > > > --000e0cd28e84ed2e2e04658f3f71-- From sfraves-return-150447-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:19:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96981 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:19:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 96964 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:19:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=38iAgVckFKaq3UL+8XABWvwjTu0YQT7Em4DdgpGSCWo=; b=BDjOfgZCtKAO9FcYIeW7KBES5lPLQ1QYesfMAnvh1oqFFru76nrlv3dsLSZBKBeFzE vvfA7BGXkxKIS16xIh+FdJwln/qep5br56nRJuuY5f/YCGBWXjRKwTdY2CY8iBkPM98y crGhGzCf1C/xrQISQMXLUYSxmMGnNATJJjuuk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=M5Ghg35iVrgwwY1E/1SvFKCaxM0jKm62xgRZiT0ahDux+MqMEUWCpn3oCLnDsZynht W/NwQXg7zzjGqtZoCYBQnuz9+UmdLMPJeS/KH4llv0EkTDyXxwaoZvCmkO2ewWtQuMQk NdrqISpk11UPjKobfzxQLiOxwRY8HBg3YBq5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:20:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> From: D To: Matt Stone Cc: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e33ede4d4c04658f49b0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd2e33ede4d4c04658f49b0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like to tittie twist my self. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: > First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? > Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why > it > matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl solution. > The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching > for > you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is > borderline ;) > > However, there is one case where I think having software align all the > beats > for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA > with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing at > once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > > Just my $0.02 > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >wrote: > > > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are > all > > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is > there > > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses > anything > > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually > having > > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech > 1200's > > that are collecting dust right now. > > > > > > > --000e0cd2e33ede4d4c04658f49b0-- From sfraves-return-150448-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:22:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 870 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:22:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 850 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:22:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uhGT5RTbnVSrjWCOFP9Wmf392viBplyh36DyLOb3/dM=; b=efUbfw9rKnYPi71haxJYoyPnaSF2w5YK7SCox+8ChSE8L5AtPUvFTBBeWrf5PDRP63 Ct7lVXfxKiJLc7OyDaBntlW/ljeQSBxIIweVPtG6mhlC5O1DnUvMbGbB7LYr6Y3noLvD LhCxv1v2UYlYRFGGSiwzTjOlHQ8fvKpprB38k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=bjgGU0QZbfMlM97YZFju65kVTuF0jt2d91YIr4Khy9WWJn68Vd6N3dPFYpA9gtJ88r pQmy1qoR90UIzw3NjdEln2Dr//f1LsYmAz+iLXP8y3wa/dxH0cshDjJHxfLu9dVVIQ1k 6uXKSqlp9Dk9IdFJT4HFK8tn4dNtaik/fwtIc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:22:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> From: D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636e1fa2b9fd73804658f524b X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --001636e1fa2b9fd73804658f524b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: > Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like > to tittie twist my self. > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: > >> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >> it >> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >> solution. >> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >> for >> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >> borderline ;) >> >> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >> beats >> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >> at >> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >> >> Just my $0.02 >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > >wrote: >> >> > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >> all >> > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >> there >> > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >> anything >> > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >> having >> > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >> > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >> 1200's >> > that are collecting dust right now. >> > >> > >> > >> > > --001636e1fa2b9fd73804658f524b-- From sfraves-return-150449-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:22:30 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1651 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:22:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1623 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:22:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 365943.50620.bm@omp114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237566169; bh=7Y9t5ldKX8rYBvx2/LBF31uRaiOHhuO9rwFnwK1yM9g=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TGvm0ldG7fInP5Z3DcXJ7pCfZOJyP6RN2WWcNYLjn8bWCZrjt6Y5bncjBxZv2O4FFjfQ9HJMqYKV945AbTpVcmeDpBnNI0be6sVzTpzvGE2XpsFE8DYeVTj/vrO3nc22xoARtpqCWzuSn6ANMuXX3rQ/joOcSAQRDBjTQWcnnBA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nO5hgrxSaJRb+PhTFFQ+2cdZ/gj3C2P4yKySariq9SdXu1gLPMAykR1MhPUItyMW/7BhOHUNcPTEIFbRLhX0OaHyGLvGnYcP29NOEDq55lJsDU6PrkrbnLEURNA4qzsqcF3d6bgTzBvsCSWGhjCdBtDcVBwDP9MM5Crf1UXRm8A=; Message-ID: <31628.37803.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: qYmPrq4VM1kNEma30s5j6NapYJEhh2jcAWwk2kpP4heey0CBG64d7WEa_xN2tlAdCs.1iggkJvubxe5_u9pAUrFVZjE_G7fm6dUnDgd4RAS2L4C.cfjWb8Zt69.k23fOaY5JFOenuIDFBRVQtfdupJ29bEXmGVxqA2rimdH1qYbwVBwrMZVIIZTaNhsxxhgrfEpOnrOS1p9eDiM4TX7wiNuJQ4ogiv12relhdUY_fqgkr8YSQDqkP0jbOr2AJ7cZBnhv X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:22:48 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1018602922-1237566168=:37803" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] medical marijuana --0-1018602922-1237566168=:37803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have ptsd so i think ill be good. --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: From: Matt Stone Subject: Re: [sfraves] medical marijuana To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:13 PM Yeah it is pretty easy. =A0Get a copy of your medical records and set up an= appointment with a pot doc (medicann is pretty good). =A0They'll make a=A0= judgment=A0call if anything in your medical history warrants being=A0prescr= ibed=A0marijuana for (they have pretty loose standards). Medicann's website:=A0http://www.medicannusa.com/ On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:10 AM, mike guglielmini w= rote: so whats up with it over there? is it easy to get it prescribed or what? =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1018602922-1237566168=:37803-- From sfraves-return-150450-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:26:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6385 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:26:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 6368 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:26:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 309289.58741.bm@omp112.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237566388; bh=u8f8XzBIvXMnIGSfcG4VFoFk5wO5k+1hVz3iIEssjAQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ueDolAE1o4UcJ7yuJfjZzK8oEUMrmN+pdkjfmG3h61dPrtGfxw2oSxd3EDC/0RVEQUyHV73kEaN/wxQLkzOCsQk16MnE85dueurp/qM/lUHwj3YTkYnhu1ZZ/hzFUcVMcYRK0Pk70HiZiDkR08zOvOKtHvan9opEFkqUgf8iKZ0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yZEwc0oIIOtEeShczoQxbmdQHVIupf/jGA/oyd41chHZVbsaKd8CVFUa7vI1Z1zv6+Gk3x5fPhpJBFn2DddTFLkwzAV71d/6d3CYfzQvtlPbLKsRM/7X2wIurR/yiPRmo5roJGXMYiV7XNqpa9Ueu2xTrfmfyX2/8y0ci5zI268=; Message-ID: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jMO2IAkVM1kkMGymc3xR9nat_LWfjpRgz5ErRccjDgBQaolF9D_DhDfOQwgX6QRXooTIUR06SkXOjRLC6EfjIsMJFqvDOyaq75AHx_TZ6n3bzC.oyLArUnF7RNVACEuzYqXT8KI_t_qqezkrhQPd3nwsN_j9sGXlR.xSc.OEgcTURf0wsx4dNIZHraGX_H_EmSd7YsvFzRFxGeGCCRONSZrAzqGQNAXIKTG8T6X6xP_rp9z87NKuWZzXpA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:26:27 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1369063330-1237566387=:47894" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1369063330-1237566387=:47894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the beatmatching you= rself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 mixing because with ablet= on you can do live remixes and shit from what im told. havent actually look= ed into it yet but plan too soon. can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc= .. especially for media applications. --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: From: Matt Stone Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:17 PM First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why i= t matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl solutio= n. =A0The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatchi= ng for you. =A0Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear = is borderline ;) However, there is one case where I think having software align all the beat= s for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live P= A with something like Ableton. =A0If you have more then three tracks playin= g at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. Just my $0.02 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini w= rote: maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all = the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is ther= e still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anythin= g but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually hav= ing to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all = laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200'= s that are collecting dust right now. =A0 =A0 =A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1369063330-1237566387=:47894-- From sfraves-return-150451-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:29:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10089 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:29:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 10072 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:29:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=LEzJkahgo4bcG1Lp5hvrz3om7K9oPuw7V3OwMZtKjOk=; b=mDIWIJJ6jNgaAdnilrkyKz6WghK/n0ReYBU7qdgAnPwe5iiv+HkfMPunBumUFXgLNy wt65pRYf4dUA0vVi+hLV5oyhSEBlbs2bjzbuP4mRYG3oafjLTW3zl+/828jwURMvzcG6 xB2ce61MRkpe8Ep3YauszQbfKUJDWzuE8g6Uo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=L1j2e8piYM9rUmkBqLG7+vcduTRnzJ8NppEMIZvlc7ySM2HykD7EA/nECMhrFnr6It aiYXAXNRrUuorKQID9S3wNCJyrHDjyOVt/uuwCZ/vfjgIhlSzOwp1o61UNupFWU6CGv4 /PJPLH7meax73pNAvtsT2IthaBfQsulspBKDY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:29:22 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ben Haus To: D Cc: Matt Stone , mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd487725736e304658f6b23 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd487725736e304658f6b23 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The early house and techno pioneers embraced technology to create "electronic" music. Knowing your history is the essential part in understanding where you're at. But are we content with that? Should DJs also stop playing music made with software, and not analog hardware? While the 1200s are classic, and there's nothing quite like spinning on vinyl, I'd compare my ableton live setup and mid controller to an F22 fighter jet. It's capable of mind boggling things, especially when you compare it to an above average DJ on a pair of technics, which is more like a propellor driven WWII plane. It's kind of funny, cuz all the kids who are new to the scene, are completely mesmerized by ableton live and curious about how it works. But a lot of the old heads, grunt then mumble something under their breadth when they see someone on it. These are the same people 10, 15 years ago who stood in front of the DJ, mezmerized by the continuous grooves that churned out of 2 or 3 turntables. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: > Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like > to tittie twist my self. > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone >wrote: > > > First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? > > Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why > > it > > matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl > solution. > > The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching > > for > > you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is > > borderline ;) > > > > However, there is one case where I think having software align all the > > beats > > for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live > PA > > with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing > at > > once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > >wrote: > > > > > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are > > all > > > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is > > there > > > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses > > anything > > > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually > > having > > > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > > > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech > > 1200's > > > that are collecting dust right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd487725736e304658f6b23-- From sfraves-return-150452-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:29:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11120 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:29:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 11100 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:29:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=berkeleyrecords.com; h=Received:References:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Cc:X-Identified-User; b=nrEFIzydCFBgxEClxnxhxY6evmzDisOVEDlMIDuC/8Ht76eIAik326sWtiIFfFDv6Qze9pTH+nn6L7VJbB/COS4eBqS5gvm9m0RiVJ8Hc+V3n91YdUD/x5QJ5nNZb8F3; References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <2473489E-675B-4AB0-86EB-0660DD60F082@berkeleyrecords.com> <842882.218.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-Id: From: "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" To: "dangrsmind@yahoo.com" In-Reply-To: <842882.218.qm@web32403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5G77) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:29:43 -0700 Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Identified-User: {2918:host352.hostmonster.com:berkele4:berkeleyrecords.com} {sentby:smtp auth 166.190.239.49 authed with jimip@berkeleyrecords.com} X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Possibilities are greater with the computer on the table . I would like to afford 2 cd's and a laptop and turns. But for now, I will just play at home with my mk5's and my oversized pc. Funny thing here, I started making music with the pc and only recently bought turns for a killer deal. Wow!Vinyl is fun and has a feel like no other. One day I will get traktor and be a really happy camper. plus I need like a 6 channel mixer. Too much good stuff to choose from Sent from i On Mar 20, 2009, at 9:16 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > Well, a lot of people have been switching recently I think. The > primary issues seem to be portability and cost. The laptop > interfaces have gotten better of course as well. > > I'm just a hobbyist, but with the economy I'm not investing in > anything new right now so still vinyl for me. > > SF has been a vinyl mecca for a long time, but I think that time may > be fading...see for example the recent demise of Open Mind and the > rework at Tweekin' records here. The days when we had half a dozen > dance oriented vinyl stores are gone forever. > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" > Cc: "sfraves@hyperreal.org" > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:46:35 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > Can of worms now open > > > > On Mar 20, 2009, at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > >> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? >> are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their >> sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are >> outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me >> nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of >> musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt >> then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that >> are collecting dust right now. >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150453-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:30:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12346 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:30:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12325 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:30:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/S9F1FvuGcaghclvlsNJOdg3GXbNlVBzmwXYDyF3ddo=; b=AkobjM71u9lGFOsOjBZNP1fiaE6hzDxWOwAsyc+cS5AbJhvRxbp+O6QmhcjzFwTEk7 HwOKc2+XcpBI3E0hMRexgAdaoya7E3PzCAAUtUqQBt5wz9DHwIcPYvq319kbDSDkLQEK tKI4grFnBPDeSvXvVyEE4BoBgRDJGpqzkhTag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=YO7LASOlbRuMVkORyUrHR8W0BzrOGydCulySXPSpfa/DkSjMN6B1eRVyQByzTurN0N HCVXwQLY/Rif++RFu2wi6iFO/WvbB7wVNb3k6DrW+J4rZZcQGkg8xcaIhf7Eykokek2i 2lj/8mEbAA6hDlA4BxEJVmWszcvcphkvx3QlE= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <31628.37803.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <31628.37803.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:30:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1519a8675a304658f6f57 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] medical marijuana --000e0cd1519a8675a304658f6f57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yep! That is actually a legitimate one, just bring proof of that diagnosis and you're set man. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:22 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > i have ptsd so i think ill be good. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: > > > From: Matt Stone > Subject: Re: [sfraves] medical marijuana > To: "mike guglielmini" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:13 PM > > > Yeah it is pretty easy. Get a copy of your medical records and set up an > appointment with a pot doc (medicann is pretty good). They'll make > a judgment call if anything in your medical history warrants > being prescribed marijuana for (they have pretty loose standards). > > > Medicann's website: http://www.medicannusa.com/ > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:10 AM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > > so whats up with it over there? is it easy to get it prescribed or what? > > > > > > > > --000e0cd1519a8675a304658f6f57-- From sfraves-return-150454-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:38:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20802 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:38:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20782 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:38:43 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=CKY5IgyJwwOhjUXNCavvSa5668ElW0oziZ44MLkGX00=; b=qqO4VSHWnZGLsVGyifZnkngz2KG8wHTAsSgCo2lXjrFcf7FuhgEENMCvzp4bPx+0M8 pots2B7fE7Z7L9qdVADdMwNvIy5f2evvO7EtTFZ9YQcyIXbC8CfRP3OztHakP2XeJlzD SH9xipwCrsyrY216w/+dCSB6Eqy1TyAhCWcyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=V2HYHT+G7vqVwzMozIa/1iJXaZ1Ce3YYRaTNjGg04RYN1Y6JWAMILXVp4sGOLLzo4U dSYcw3RPpLsNlTycgYEmskrU+qlEZ9X4hEZDZwt7f4IKTseRVLNbhpVTKkOVahA9LHon vinkmi1yumex5T8jQbTpTpNmKkVfSeaTtnrfY= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:39:03 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd29bf000253204658f8e69 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd29bf000253204658f8e69 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yeah, Ableton runs on Mac. All the cool kids have macbook pros covered in stickers. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:26 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the beatmatching > yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 mixing because with > ableton you can do live remixes and shit from what im told. havent actually > looked into it yet but plan too soon. can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate > pc.. especially for media applications. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: > > > From: Matt Stone > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "mike guglielmini" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:17 PM > > > First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? > > > Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why > it matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl > solution. The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the > beatmatching for you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on > new gear is borderline ;) > > > However, there is one case where I think having software align all the > beats for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex > live PA with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks > playing at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > > > Just my $0.02 > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's > that are collecting dust right now. > > > > > > > > --000e0cd29bf000253204658f8e69-- From sfraves-return-150455-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:40:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23571 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:40:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 23554 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:40:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237567222; bh=pY+yQJ6ftgIaX/5iB8tU+/O9UDU4x5wlb0CDOBIZMGQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NR9fkZ19qc3d+tDwRWXleL13rgWRHAGkB1MqC2ZL6gnWaWD6Fd9zvqzUwoKD/KjJDDx2Cxpwpznh7Ia+40nA+vL+oCpcjVIkIH3f6I5twMdsWzvVbxyNrwd0C3aiie4rk5YQNMj4u7sMMWt7Yfgwt6eBc0qJOxMnbQEnrgSQdeQ= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tyyANhMsMIP7FWdPuTBFdFQ4PPi7up/LYOVMFkZiEPRzushiAuLfoDRfBttgz7soeEbdSvX6i8plqhqzi5LGrMTN2M3hIyXDlp/3TJmdT2kQ//IIfnWeZ0dLEL2aeDEyu8/DdG4sLGKsPpsGkJpXwKbPTnlqmSrrzXyPe8WWThA=; Message-ID: <766243.26997.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LYQ_.2IVM1nv8ME_Opp4TeKCb4sJv47apFN7gi0m8ZqZbP6..2HMpjcYopARrbYNPloIKx58RRgTXDyx2ScWL376JQkuq7Snf9SooerpKIXRMVxip6Y1ODfFgJu4agoCm7Sbw7rmuPGdhVaRk88F5KqgnuKsRN66zeiBSlY2KVi0oUl2IQT2.Gjvv8zfzdTkIOD3lBQqmew- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <996726.32434.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <996726.32434.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf Now that is a question I don't know the answer to. You should contact the CA DMV directly or if you want I can reach out to my DMV contact and see what they say. Seems like a call to 800 number would probably answer this for you though. Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:12:49 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf thats kind of what i thought i ordered a copy of my birth certificate a few days ago but that shit takes like a month to come. do you know if my dd-214 form from the military will work? --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:08 PM Its easy to get a California ID if you already have the source or breeder documents such as a birth certificate etc. If you don't have those and you've lost your MD ID, you might have issues. But that's not just going to be a California issue; you'll have this problem everywhere. FWIW until recently I worked for a company in the business of detecting false identity documents. So I am familiar with CA and other state regulations in this area. Best, Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 8:13:51 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf not that easy man. i didnt have a fl id you can only order it online like that if you already had an fl id. my id is from md --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matthew Phillips wrote: From: Matthew Phillips Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 11:07 AM I would think that getting a new ID is as easy as http://express.hsmv.state.fl.us/ It took less than a week for my new ID to show up. ------------------------- http://blip.fm/profile/kestrachern On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:48 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > interesting how? as in maybe im underage or something? definately not. i > dont even look that young. and i have 8 years of service in the military. i > can get an id here but its gonna take too long. im tryin to leave asap. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 10:42 AM > > > > Undergrounds or clubs? > > Clubs have dress codes, although you'll find SF clubs much more relaxed > than Miami or other east coast locations about this. > > In the underground anything goes. Just ask one of the naked dudes with > nothing on but a cock ring at Lovefest. > > And you have no ID? Hmm, I think now we are getting to the interesting > part of your story... > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:23:26 AM > Subject: [sfraves] dress codes for parties in sf > > are they like over here where you have to be wearing 1000 dollar outfits > just to get in? another thing someone on here might be able to tell me is > how easy is it to get an id over there? i lost mine a couple of weeks ago > and out here they want a million pieces of paper for you to get an id and it > takes a long ass time which i dont have. im gonna need one tho to get into > the parties over there in sf. > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150456-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:40:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24750 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:40:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24684 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:40:27 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=PWV08pWotfQWZ0+5thM7PcNUG1GOOeANGFAC8gS8nnc=; b=b3skSFYNQTQ9z/kTafKXjrlhwEupD7Ka+Eb+1u+iz4AWm9vTAey0pzbLaNCx2lU/2K 7gUKJD3kSbIkR6Y2cXOnadqcPO5y1bWmaJZHz6s4p3+FOpdr+zr5q5OV12Ab3jOADwNP BSJpNjPFlc5JH5uMm72R10IYIW/5q6bnRn650= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=BDWS5zLrxIz/UL3trg/5kvqWzLBoYi2Rp72xxMiu4d4ulx7R9NwErLTjX6S0iKlmlo lKueO9rRnp1VpaxheixCmzSiLyPQjI3OTYLIU8mn0b6SgNFEFhwBWUk9DPKnzAoQJh0r lyo5HnAnSLdd2/8Q+CydMGHORiOySs2q+PpdI= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:40:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1940932a0903200940x2160106er7d19116097640083@mail.gmail.com> From: D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd241fc309b5204658f940d X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd241fc309b5204658f940d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit whoahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Matt Stone wrote: > Yeah, Ableton runs on Mac. > All the cool kids have macbook pros covered in stickers. > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:26 AM, mike guglielmini >wrote: > > > now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the beatmatching > > yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 mixing because with > > ableton you can do live remixes and shit from what im told. havent > actually > > looked into it yet but plan too soon. can you get ableton on mac? cuz i > hate > > pc.. especially for media applications. > > > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: > > > > > > From: Matt Stone > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > To: "mike guglielmini" > > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:17 PM > > > > > > First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? > > > > > > Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why > > it matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl > > solution. The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the > > beatmatching for you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on > > new gear is borderline ;) > > > > > > However, there is one case where I think having software align all the > > beats for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex > > live PA with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks > > playing at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > > > > > > Just my $0.02 > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > > > wrote: > > > > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are > all > > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is > there > > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses > anything > > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually > having > > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech > 1200's > > that are collecting dust right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --000e0cd241fc309b5204658f940d-- From sfraves-return-150457-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:48:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31552 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:48:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 31522 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:48:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237567732; bh=mfXYM3nTpvgnWRPGDArc9/uf+7StED03cmrBq1DlHyE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2zzKVJTEKLnrzk5f5xcbU6neZE0zC92sYBrT2akTBQJFF21ypIQOPsEkL+58JDvq6Ib6f7OVi0MsSTd6NiXqqFYbTwryhEqPpEjlODVkglxoVp927MLMqV4IaS4bVeMdZn/vGjwSms6jELo8PG/ApAHJk39F4rvwdvtjpScJ7y8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tKFvgLAWGqYeuvoOiK+Hg+xTLfFurJFCRptv/lFPYS16b5jPI0AHhzbwxOev1JkDfJoos42cpN2CxBe0Nq3vrSbIKHGYpZBTULi1dU4MdhcPFQJDIGDLk1Wmgz+QDi7GYmPBAJdIeixdbIV27wHSbAYvNZLKEQmBMw4yQdJK0pA=; Message-ID: <869022.52226.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6GMlTZgVM1mbzAlNvfFbryRlf4ywwfM0EwBGoAI0oYcDU4TVU_luBHz81VY2ddkctVpxECEplORCmTGy936MxkCA.gpwUcH7kt22vUUVecj3JJz_C4lGR.B22znyYx7siBWf9rnzthHsDuv4ZojeWXy.JHG.kd_fmn.TbnnM_DUndPz0kGkqSY7ChVvNFrO4_I7Xxqml_8BMvb7_uyLAdjbyX0442ZzN X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:48:52 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: D , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks DJ = data jockey ----- Original Message ---- From: D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:22:27 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: > Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like > to tittie twist my self. > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: > >> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >> it >> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >> solution. >> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >> for >> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >> borderline ;) >> >> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >> beats >> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >> at >> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >> >> Just my $0.02 >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > >wrote: >> >> > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >> all >> > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >> there >> > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >> anything >> > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >> having >> > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >> > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >> 1200's >> > that are collecting dust right now. >> > >> > >> > >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150458-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 16:54:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38665 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 16:54:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38648 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 16:54:33 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Originating-IP: 12.51.43.194 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.14.21 Message-Id: <20090320095454.f8f3637177c5bf8d3f6f1103fa6aaa62.17389f025d.wbe@email01.secureserver.net> From: thatguy@caligrownevents.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:54:54 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks USBJ=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150459-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 17:01:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45808 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 17:01:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45789 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 17:01:19 -0000 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e9608649-f0ec-44f3-bf4f-d9e561aa386d_" X-Originating-IP: [65.204.229.11] From: dj sinestro To: , , sfraves Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:01:40 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <869022.52226.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> <869022.52226.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2009 17:01:40.0425 (UTC) FILETIME=[89C64B90:01C9A97D] X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: RE: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --_e9608649-f0ec-44f3-bf4f-d9e561aa386d_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think the part I miss the most was being the guy that had stuff on vinyl = that no one else had. I could drop brother from another planet's "Planet Earth" and KNOW no one i= n my tri state area did not have that record. That's virtually impossible now with file sharing. Sinestro ------------------------------------------------------------ I like large posteriors and I cannot prevaricate. www.rehabrecords.net www.myspace.com/djsinestro > Date: Fri=2C 20 Mar 2009 09:48:52 -0700 > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com > To: dandangsan@gmail.com=3B sfraves@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >=20 >=20 > DJ =3D data jockey >=20 >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message ---- > From: D > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday=2C March 20=2C 2009 9:22:27 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >=20 > What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >=20 > On Fri=2C Mar 20=2C 2009 at 9:20 AM=2C D wrote: >=20 > > Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I l= ike > > to tittie twist my self. > > > > > > On Fri=2C Mar 20=2C 2009 at 9:17 AM=2C Matt Stone wrote: > > > >> First=2C when did DJs ever have musical skills? > >> Ok seriously tho=2C if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't se= e why > >> it > >> matters if you do it on plain vinyl=2C cd decks=2C or a digital vinyl > >> solution. > >> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatchi= ng > >> for > >> you. Also=2C beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is > >> borderline =3B) > >> > >> However=2C there is one case where I think having software align all t= he > >> beats > >> for you is okay=2C and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex l= ive PA > >> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playi= ng > >> at > >> once=2C I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > >> > >> Just my $0.02 > >> > >> On Fri=2C Mar 20=2C 2009 at 8:36 AM=2C mike guglielmini >> >wrote: > >> > >> > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? a= re > >> all > >> > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or = is > >> there > >> > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses > >> anything > >> > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actuall= y > >> having > >> > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be a= ll > >> > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tec= h > >> 1200's > >> > that are collecting dust right now. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe=2C e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands=2C e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8.=20 http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=3DB037= MSN55C0701A= --_e9608649-f0ec-44f3-bf4f-d9e561aa386d_-- From sfraves-return-150460-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 17:28:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72993 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 17:28:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 72970 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 17:28:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237570150; bh=5B3sk7EZ6+bHo6dv30jRZ6X/30dyW+PoXTNUt0Bfx1A=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OJOrnLSSri9ZE2AGWpfFOKhyZF9/sg4mZIuMTlXOpB0YSdXYtER9sQCsD2Utsli9wQn5XgP3rvuvI3s5agMqd8S7vMHLcMN79fesDO11svCCOk8fiZreHPtegwGvyupCoriAqY5Ivh5FYE0U2034bXU0Q/QkqEeJryqBSzvz6Qw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VO1Y82GY0sygujN9skEjA1XaNUh3G0NUIR5L5nwja+576DRKfnsbHiqJ+83UOsYLJkCOlo9j+cq7IRSKE5rT5AXNXPFbVxQII1PV6u9oqawJlDasw5QQ+69/C8s02+/pXxFNE9IcwQpVjMi++K3XHkiRORHiuwwHwY6YXi2BxJM=; Message-ID: <877852.40944.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: kHbCwrsVM1l.BysHB_mpP74XDcIkuRX_LoYnhIGZYUKCfc_Ids7CO1U6NjYZqHpHTiCcXq4RdF064cWKZNK.dd8reEkT9eNdUSpELs1ju6lVZmYutrSyaLloSTYpSNBP.E.qhJoUA1qRI4tIJBu_c4iHInOIKyuVzoO4OUtBEA1ocvx12ULw318YRxd9dBu_HsXqGC8UzwlJV.edN3070Mgd4K4_pQf4HI1LbL8BdRT3WWRYK_ku1bh1yHC925dWMzmUbicV0g-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 10:29:10 -0700 (PDT) From: George Cochrane To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Vinyl (and even CDJs) are a little like manual transmission on a car. For some folks, it affords a feeling of increased control, but really, most folks that say they would "only drive a stick" are saying so because of macho chest-puffing. Laptop DJing is a little like a modern automatic transmission. When needed, it makes a task that requires little to no skill (beatmatching) automatic. It can take a little bit of control away from the driver, but it frees them up to focus on other things. Modern automatic transmissions afford the user plenty of control, and many have "manual-like" modes. Now imagine that these automatic cars were 4 times lighter and more efficient than manuals, could hold 400 times as much gas, and folded up into a suitcase, and you'll have an idea of what the appeal is. When I DJ these days, I use DJ software like Torq, which gives me the option to beatmatch myself or to auto-beatmatch (but that usually takes some finesse, it's not perfect). The nice thing is, I can 2x4 with a dj who's playing vinyl or cds, beatmatch with them, and once I get going, flip into auto-mode and focus on really fucking with the sound for a little while if I want. Most DJ software lets you control the audio with actual turntables if you want, but I forego that, mainly because I love to be able to set up my small gear, plug it in right as the previous DJ is playing (without screwing up the setup) and go go go! The whole setup fits in a small backpack I can easily carry on my bike. However, I will assert that somebody's GOT to have a good controller to make laptop djing legit. Even I get pissed when I'm watching somebody sit there and throw tracks into itunes or plop them into an Ableton timeline with little-to-no interaction. -George ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:26:27 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media applications. --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: From: Matt Stone Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:17 PM First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why it matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl solution. The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching for you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is borderline ;) However, there is one case where I think having software align all the beats for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. Just my $0.02 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that are collecting dust right now. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150461-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 18:04:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20881 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 18:04:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 20854 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 18:04:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=MdF2X8EJuwTBudiW8xkcHfDQN0cFGNLFn3X94L1Sgks=; b=ok6h1Mjvn3OGsCnzF060GAM6ecLB/SjSR6Ryg+S+O6u1DagK4sMU1iMFyFdSkdvHz7 OOE2wZmcL6ALdkdSB6vvlKxm8gapQbzraC/jtNDaPhFjYTa+16CVBdtwD1fkzkySTlYb mdkvoOU6KzmCvnefKxVBJLimpo7XM7wOZKwrU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Yl9RNX/Q2IbaWx3u9EhZme9fZA6nr4i+fjKNXFwYhEhcxkvscQz4zStrjguRqZJXOB Xdld0SN3L9GVnNtdBqZattMlpE4mGca38MplJNu22BBrSxO+tV36SWmbRo1CULBbq67+ VuOYjgH1/aJPIraAvQRgGjIEBI0bLbeiWc+s4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:05:12 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ben Haus To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd403320c250f046590c212 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd403320c250f046590c212 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, so here's the thing with programs that automatically beatmatch like ableton. If you're only mixing from channel 1 to channel to, at the end of every song, I completely understand your argument. However, that's not how ableton is meant to be utilized. There are quite a few DJs who use ableton in this manner, and I've heard of one legend on the playa who often mixes in this manner. Ableton is better suited for piecing loops of musics, into new songs. It's also great for remixing songs live, or doing live editing. I can layer a photek drum n bass loop at 135 BPM, add in some keys from a DJ Shadow song, add a vocal sample, percussion from here and there, a wobbly acid line, and I've got a new fucking song on the spot! Can you do this on turntables, well, actually you can. Since turntablism has gone underground, there's a lot of cats, especially in SF who are perfecting this artform. Have you seen the vestax turntable that has buttons to adjust pitch speed, essentially turning the turntable into a real instrument. You have groups like Gunkhole and 4oneFunk who have pieces of a live band like a drummer, then lay down all the other elements: bassline, solos, melodies, leads, etc, with different members of the group using their turntables to add to the song, it's rather insane. However, unless you have 4 or 5 highly skilled turntablist to create a new song, ableton let's you do it all on your own. Check out gunkhole creating live music on turntables here: http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=funkhole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=gunkhole&hl=en&emb=0 DJ Teeko doing a solo on the scratch 1 vestax turntable: http://video.google.com/videosearch?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=s&hl=en&q=funkhole&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#q=dj+teeko+solo&hl=en&emb=0 On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:26 AM, mike guglielmini wrote: > now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the beatmatching > yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 mixing because with > ableton you can do live remixes and shit from what im told. havent actually > looked into it yet but plan too soon. can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate > pc.. especially for media applications. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: > > > From: Matt Stone > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "mike guglielmini" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:17 PM > > > First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? > > > Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why > it matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl > solution. The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the > beatmatching for you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on > new gear is borderline ;) > > > However, there is one case where I think having software align all the > beats for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex > live PA with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks > playing at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > > > Just my $0.02 > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's > that are collecting dust right now. > > > > > > > > --000e0cd403320c250f046590c212-- From sfraves-return-150462-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 18:05:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22240 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 18:05:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22223 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 18:05:37 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=dXK7iB1GyidDdMGj2vMsba8fzj1OfET2IRcLc/zDn0I=; b=k/t3GCRkjT396de6wruB5OOLGUJxbP7BKqfbkpzCXdPYH4kAWNPJV0EYeLdF2t+hs5 qaXXDImxhZ9X8l9k8orz7juk21jbiR1kmS47/fBhdT1P5+Qfb7BNLbDreBX6uOclp9zq bAB8sJK5hXoH/l40mSgjhAcqfhN4nqmEKTjjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XFMFYPa5VkOo65XWPlGkPPCfqI6OOe6PZTrK33wKjlJjq6kzkxSqdn9XkDoQu+Asyq dN58X09BrwZr8Ad1Qe+AtRw2chInLWVCBnUNPTDuUxO4HWLh5ojTeH3WgDelKKuy6h74 4HunFxqBpPeZD2zUI3RdsACnaOuysmTEjTsvw= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <877852.40944.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <877852.40944.qm@web65606.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:05:56 -0700 Message-ID: From: Ben Haus To: George Cochrane Cc: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001517573cfaba7ef0046590c47e X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --001517573cfaba7ef0046590c47e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:29 AM, George Cochrane wrote: > > Vinyl (and even CDJs) are a little like manual transmission on a car. For > some folks, it affords a feeling of increased control, but really, most > folks that say they would "only drive a stick" are saying so because of > macho chest-puffing. > > Laptop DJing is a little like a modern automatic transmission. When > needed, it makes a task that requires little to no skill (beatmatching) > automatic. It can take a little bit of control away from the driver, but it > frees them up to focus on other things. Modern automatic transmissions > afford the user plenty of control, and many have "manual-like" modes. > > Now imagine that these automatic cars were 4 times lighter and more > efficient than manuals, could hold 400 times as much gas, and folded up into > a suitcase, and you'll have an idea of what the appeal is. > > When I DJ these days, I use DJ software like Torq, which gives me the > option to beatmatch myself or to auto-beatmatch (but that usually takes some > finesse, it's not perfect). The nice thing is, I can 2x4 with a dj who's > playing vinyl or cds, beatmatch with them, and once I get going, flip into > auto-mode and focus on really fucking with the sound for a little while if I > want. Most DJ software lets you control the audio with actual turntables if > you want, but I forego that, mainly because I love to be able to set up my > small gear, plug it in right as the previous DJ is playing (without screwing > up the setup) and go go go! The whole setup fits in a small backpack I can > easily carry on my bike. > > However, I will assert that somebody's GOT to have a good controller to > make laptop djing legit. Even I get pissed when I'm watching somebody sit > there and throw tracks into itunes or plop them into an Ableton timeline > with little-to-no interaction. > > -George > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:26:27 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the beatmatching > yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 mixing because with > ableton you can do live remixes and shit from what im told. havent actually > looked into it yet but plan too soon. can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate > pc.. especially for media applications. > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Matt Stone wrote: > > > From: Matt Stone > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "mike guglielmini" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 12:17 PM > > > First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? > > > Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why > it matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl > solution. The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the > beatmatching for you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on > new gear is borderline ;) > > > However, there is one case where I think having software align all the > beats for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex > live PA with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks > playing at once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. > > > Just my $0.02 > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini > wrote: > > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are all > the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is there > still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses anything > but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually having > to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all > laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's > that are collecting dust right now. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --001517573cfaba7ef0046590c47e-- From sfraves-return-150463-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 18:12:49 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29922 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 18:12:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29895 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 18:12:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13:09 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-X-Sender: andy@atari To: mike guglielmini cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media -&e->applications. Ableton for Mac = yes. Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking on other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, get started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not available in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie signature with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just like mine) As for the whole topic of DJing: DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I change into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer guzzler, and freak of nature. Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. They are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my mind. I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played back to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. I've raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the only person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing while my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn spiffy underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But nobody seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just don't get asked to much. So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the love of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of yourself. About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some kid who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and his lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're cooking, gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's cool. Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick and how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what you love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance and strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard with the crossed arms. andyw p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150464-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 18:36:43 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58761 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 18:36:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 58710 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 18:36:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237574219; bh=xExjnBwAxthb0/MX8DRvgIes3PyeqTseraQjZdVzPVo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v2Xygdbz8pxQIJQWK2I0uTh/aEBcQv/B2epLFjdE6vek6SUg97jpu45eUZh32RkM4zDmmm1AJOzk6DLJJyOIaUTXoaTtKsP3J8piOwBCocDPxEGoQkIE37iDyBwrXXyUXzN0QRy/MDschRK9ODB2lJGC0+KyLM1wQz3VhJPzxDk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZyiZ7WtZx1aLAmdMvp+c30fhw2vbBDp1E07ouwGfv2MgNU9P3KBH/ixldPj5HmPzAQcoGmQ2sy+5xJYiZEPo+8+d1ydXEjxzeW5AGQr6/7zYPEJ8jxyev2Nn699Yv41Q/Pcoi9YzSA/kn6kLuFrNan3BU7uo21F0i2FXoyom0i0=; Message-ID: <940965.19112.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: t09GfF4VM1mtVOXwfufKww0uMKowGtkX_NTZknwwpSg9Uq42d5ZVC0XWyQzIsiDDxJKJaPxk9RqUnsIGKs36GMGRID33RpFvHUhfNT16dga6jxQQR0F1KbOtu72K_4ouXQuN2YB1raC6JZNf.Anemx8qc49ssy8NPLlBVgvbLonnZA26iZdOvlZHtzoxAoeiWYVP7vXX3aMarE0KeuTHJrdaM6hHolXwveBZBmbZaiOSUEWhjFt_USaZ0krx0JxzbAu2oFMrYZt2zvA63TydzWQOTdXf_LcqOZLWIisWzGW.g1_P2Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT) From: George Cochrane To: AndyW , mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks *andy said: -------------------- p.s. 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s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=R37Mh081AEOjyoaGZv6s72oojtgnOTeLadNrAQ9mDZg=; b=WrZdPvXP1sNHr75/wexUcYwT6Beyap1gdMlKvWCHfMzjnNdMP9zcbAqISC+nXXg+Ch 2zvvDGe4bNZekYQODzqHZHxMXAwZ9+f+wpI8WfWNvqO+CLJmPSxqjXy6fxgt9w1SH0yd jrFiKoOMAdMos8riYeZzagx2Pbqmb+binrqE4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=dezjjAqXBcScJLswOBb8OThLpry297ygAuIjoPOrctUXA48Q4153idLYra/N9rwgH3 aSrhBDkUFJOlItAUflMF69pLdWsnV6il3X3qWul0XA/j30c8CoZB+/xHKXmxGDSNqIQy UJTTD+Be3HPbPy9+SDA0XkyH4MY2Z5VAvEdCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <940965.19112.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <940965.19112.qm@web65603.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:38:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: George Cochrane Cc: AndyW , mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd179fcba5aae0465913937 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd179fcba5aae0465913937 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PEDOBEAR! 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Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90203 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 18:54:46 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RFhTebvy2KzmR/O3/MM2b4nVHb8MzgF7GUQWFSjw0h8=; b=OS9ASePx1PSWCiun2UgmH/JsCEEEW7KhnEiXocIpN4mVAkVcryFyG5uBk6519H1Gao D1FJAcedqHHFrBvGMajVOOj9tNSYeBm3oLBYf9AWq0s0TxxqV1wvxMxjXoMxDfSVweIs qV+Mh+YKlk/j0tunBTsYAnM0dweX08pUVfj1s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=P/o9Z/EADRvcjpegyX9MM8tX72HJ4FmkErs0eUuexjxCJ04aEd1DyUyxgfKxCcVOVF ECrNYVpyAzeczlxGOx+UCYCAygaWrYBhgXT9TI7h62yFkVboqTjKgO/R2o2xkbUC8s29 LSIFt5sZyi8LYoeJ2JBAzxtEAhbziI9apo+kg= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3962ab980903192212i7f28a48jd3963a28ee196125@mail.gmail.com> References: <3962ab980903192212i7f28a48jd3963a28ee196125@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:55:07 -0700 Message-ID: <784d138a0903201155n2a75c09bxd11ba3e8b3568203@mail.gmail.com> From: Katie To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2423296a2950465917475 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Dirty Secrets Underground this Sat w/Jeno, Andrew Phelan, Eric Sharp (Bday boy) & More --000e0cd2423296a2950465917475 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hellz yeah! Last year your party was off the HOOK - actually got *more* packed at about 4am!! Can't wait for Saturday night! Happy Birthday Eric!!! xoxox On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rock It Science wrote: > Saturday, 3/21/09 | 10 PM - Late | 21 + > > Rock It Science Presents: Dirty Secrets - Eric Sharp's Bday Edition > > Dirty Secrets busts out again in a fresh warehouse space perfect for an > evening of shenanigans. One of SF's busiest fun-makers, Rock It Science > founder Eric Sharp invites all of you to join him in celebrating another > year of existence on this lovely planet and has organized a great lineup of > DJ friends to throw down in celebration. Come early and stay late as you > won't want to miss a beat! > > DJs for the night: > > Jeno (Back 2 Back) > Andrew Phelan (Prismatic) > Eric Sharp (Rock It Science, Flavor Group) > Michael Anthony (Supperclub) > Bo (Deep Blue) > Bass Cadet (Rock It Science) > White Girl Lust (Solid Bump) > > Info Line courtesy of Prismatic (call for location the night of): > > 888 482 9281 > > Hope to see you there! > --000e0cd2423296a2950465917475-- From sfraves-return-150467-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 18:54:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90743 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 18:54:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90725 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 18:54:53 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 18:55:11 +0000 From: Holt Sorenson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20090320185511.GS7941@hsomusic.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13:09AM -0700, AndyW wrote: >p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of >vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: >http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg MJ is ET's puppet! It all makes sense now.... -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150468-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 19:17:28 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19370 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 19:17:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19328 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 19:17:27 -0000 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:17:29 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB77A7A582AEE4_B38_23B8_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41921-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks ----------MB_8CB77A7A582AEE4_B38_23B8_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" What Andy said before I got a chance to. Yeah. Seriously though- and maybe this is because I'm not a DJ so I don't have any personal investment (or, admittedly, a trained ear/musical knowledge/etc.), but- why the fuck should it matter? A DJ is there to rock the crowd. Period. If software is assisting with that, who cares? Does it mean we should enjoy ourselves less? Does it mean it detracts from the experience? The only thing it detracts from is DJ worship (uuuuwww he can beatmatch!) and I don't think that matters. Again, maybe this is just because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the ins and outs of turntabling, but seems to me that the people who are pissed about this software being used are really just butthurt that they're not in the cool club anymore. The resistance to the software is the resistance to ego loss. "But, but, he's cheating! I CAN DO WHAT HE DOES WITHOUT THAT SOFTWARE!" That's great, and not to say that your abilities and talent shouldn't be respected, but guess what? It's not about you. It's about whether you get people shaking it on the dancefloor, software-assisted or not. If anything, I think it could lead the way for some serious breakthroughs because it lends itself to increased creativity and working outside the box. With the beatmatching hurdle eliminated, for example, people have more freedom to tweek shit around and focus on other aspects. It also encourages DJs to try new things and push the envelope to set themselves apart from every other DJ Tom, Dick or Harry who is relying on the same software to do what previously had to be learned. Does that make sense? If suddenly everyone can do what was already done, it means DJing has to be reinvented to up the ante. The previous lowest common denominator of DJ skillz (yes, with a "z") has now been eliminated from the equation so the bar for success has to be set higher. That could lead to some amazing shit and I'm all for it. If you're a real lover of dance music, if you're a true musician and in it to make amazing music and rock the crowd, then you would be, too. You would be embracing this opportunity to revitalize the art and create anew, thrilled by the avenues this open us, the seemingly infinite possibilities of where this could take dance music and DJing. Not to say that vinyl and turntabling shouldn't still be appreciated and respected, but the people who are pissed about this change are really just freaked out about being sussed out and left behind because they know they don't possess the musicianship to meet these new challenges. Still not a DJ, Alida -----Original Message----- From: AndyW To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13 am Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media -&e->applications. Ableton for Mac = yes. Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking on other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, get started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not available in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie signature with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just like mine) As for the whole topic of DJing: DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I change into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer guzzler, and freak of nature. Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. They are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my mind. I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played back to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. I've raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the only person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing while my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn spiffy underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But nobody seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just don't get asked to much. So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the love of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of yourself. About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some kid who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and his lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're cooking, gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's cool. Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick and how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what you love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance and strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard with the crossed arms. andyw p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org ----------MB_8CB77A7A582AEE4_B38_23B8_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150469-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 19:39:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39221 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 19:39:12 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39169 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 19:39:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8WwWaojN34cS2YNvHvEzGy8N+GTUs4906FQNrgsXP+k=; b=JyPxYXsOgsCOIti98so5NJlIhx/c5gR0e1Fn/YIJ3gud2b0IIuQw5o2vw6EgYXElRh czXfAgjjUNOlf5lG6IQTOLw+LwxdvXJM5Uhy3ubgMg0hGKjuc9FWkd2bDXdFwrJ+skZv 3ebN6h2aS8aIigL3n1AEppMfBbCsQllIF/cRw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=XTRnLxCNcXcQ2VxWsNSgyD4IZpYYlrl70JA+g2h1ap3NrpMP94zSjDAR4oHQkWyAWJ Y8swmT7PHqqbTpVKllwOHtM3gvZnhuSMVeHmAsyIEnX0SxhaETrqofo3VfdYOGdeEU/U C47ki0wXQYiGvDMOvxWu9Z4aG+oszS4NFe2gM= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:39:31 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd211cc6312a104659213e0 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd211cc6312a104659213e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, wrote: > > What Andy said before I got a chance to. Yeah. > > Seriously though- and maybe this is because I'm not a DJ so I don't have > any personal investment (or, admittedly, a trained ear/musical > knowledge/etc.), but- why the fuck should it matter? > > A DJ is there to rock the crowd. Period. If software is assisting with > that, who cares? Does it mean we should enjoy ourselves less? Does it mean > it detracts from the experience? The only thing it detracts from is DJ > worship (uuuuwww he can beatmatch!) and I don't think that matters. Again, > maybe this is just because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the ins and outs > of turntabling, but seems to me that the people who are pissed about this > software being used are really just butthurt that they're not in the cool > club anymore. The resistance to the software is the resistance to ego loss. > "But, but, he's cheating! I CAN DO WHAT HE DOES WITHOUT THAT SOFTWARE!" > That's great, and not to say that your abilities and talent shouldn't be > respected, but guess what? It's not about you. It's about whether you get > people shaking it on the dancefloor, software-assisted or not. > Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills they have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's output only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is wrong, just different. > > If anything, I think it could lead the way for some serious breakthroughs > because it lends itself to increased creativity and working outside the box. > With the beatmatching hurdle eliminated, for example, people have more > freedom to tweek shit around and focus on other aspects. It also encourages > DJs to try new things and push the envelope to set themselves apart from > every other DJ Tom, Dick or Harry who is relying on the same software to do > what previously had to be learned. Does that make sense? > > If suddenly everyone can do what was already done, it means DJing has to be > reinvented to up the ante. The previous lowest common denominator of DJ > skillz (yes, with a "z") has now been eliminated from the equation so the > bar for success has to be set higher. That could lead to some amazing shit > and I'm all for it. If you're a real lover of dance music, if you're a true > musician and in it to make amazing music and rock the crowd, then you would > be, too. You would be embracing this opportunity to revitalize the art and > create anew, thrilled by the avenues this open us, the seemingly infinite > possibilities of where this could take dance music and DJing. Not to say > that vinyl and turntabling shouldn't still be appreciated and respected, but > the people who are pissed about this change are really just freaked out > about being sussed out and left behind because they know they don't possess > the musicianship to meet these new challenges. > Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time dancing around, looking cool, and having software blow through their preselected playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of beatmatching is a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At some point you have to ask yourself "how am I different then a bar mitzvah DJ". > > > Still not a DJ, > Alida > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AndyW > To: mike guglielmini > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13 am > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: > -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the > -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 > -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from > -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. > -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media > -&e->applications. > > Ableton for Mac = yes. > > Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking on > other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you > feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, get > started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) > > As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: > http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not available > in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie signature > with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just > like mine) > > As for the whole topic of DJing: > > DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. > > Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered > sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I change > into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, > editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer guzzler, > and freak of nature. > > Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. They > are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. > > The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my mind. > I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played back > to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. I've > raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the only > person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing while > my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn spiffy > underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long > standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a > self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was > married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). > > The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these > days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But nobody > seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just > don't get asked to much. > > So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. > Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the love > of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. > Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of yourself. > > About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some kid > who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, > trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to > bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and his > lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. > > My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. > > DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to > beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will > break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out > anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're cooking, > gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out > to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or > bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's > cool. > > Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick and > how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what you > love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have > preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human > League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of > vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance and > strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard > with the crossed arms. > > andyw > > p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of > vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: > http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --000e0cd211cc6312a104659213e0-- From sfraves-return-150470-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 19:44:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45500 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 19:44:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45484 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 19:44:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2VdZK706F7ceolQHAROdidcbpQnndrWLrVajIcLcJOo=; b=FVoowt3EP6xS1BjtYZM5nREy52/+wPzt12bAMUDYSQn5DqvR9mWg8RuyC7/r5RX1na vIHNK9Ff2/8pQzwMO/MSKf4mInqYCFAawJA/bGO6O6Oqq27OARB9Ww+r8cOujdwhDuwR m4queQbpXZPtqhOCOd7rhsVwKeYUwQTIgClZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=LGbiV08568TzNc+i+SIt14U2rZ3Y0L/w4G7JTlMkTxwwMHm4RO4p+Eg/7TzUXT/ltN +1LaOWQH/jFnn+E3ZLVn0MK2rNCrqkeFBuS2VsnWWkj88yTO0S7EEfZsHzJpsOloo9Eh DW16lATantMNuZoK+IghCW4m3lxM5p3ny9r7s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:44:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd5089c8378b30465922697 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd5089c8378b30465922697 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, wrote: > >> >> What Andy said before I got a chance to. Yeah. >> >> Seriously though- and maybe this is because I'm not a DJ so I don't have >> any personal investment (or, admittedly, a trained ear/musical >> knowledge/etc.), but- why the fuck should it matter? >> >> A DJ is there to rock the crowd. Period. If software is assisting with >> that, who cares? Does it mean we should enjoy ourselves less? Does it mean >> it detracts from the experience? The only thing it detracts from is DJ >> worship (uuuuwww he can beatmatch!) and I don't think that matters. Again, >> maybe this is just because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the ins and outs >> of turntabling, but seems to me that the people who are pissed about this >> software being used are really just butthurt that they're not in the cool >> club anymore. The resistance to the software is the resistance to ego loss. >> "But, but, he's cheating! I CAN DO WHAT HE DOES WITHOUT THAT SOFTWARE!" >> That's great, and not to say that your abilities and talent shouldn't be >> respected, but guess what? It's not about you. It's about whether you get >> people shaking it on the dancefloor, software-assisted or not. >> > > Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills they > have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's output > only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also > listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is > wrong, just different. > > >> >> If anything, I think it could lead the way for some serious breakthroughs >> because it lends itself to increased creativity and working outside the box. >> With the beatmatching hurdle eliminated, for example, people have more >> freedom to tweek shit around and focus on other aspects. It also encourages >> DJs to try new things and push the envelope to set themselves apart from >> every other DJ Tom, Dick or Harry who is relying on the same software to do >> what previously had to be learned. Does that make sense? >> >> If suddenly everyone can do what was already done, it means DJing has to >> be reinvented to up the ante. The previous lowest common denominator of DJ >> skillz (yes, with a "z") has now been eliminated from the equation so the >> bar for success has to be set higher. That could lead to some amazing shit >> and I'm all for it. If you're a real lover of dance music, if you're a true >> musician and in it to make amazing music and rock the crowd, then you would >> be, too. You would be embracing this opportunity to revitalize the art and >> create anew, thrilled by the avenues this open us, the seemingly infinite >> possibilities of where this could take dance music and DJing. Not to say >> that vinyl and turntabling shouldn't still be appreciated and respected, but >> the people who are pissed about this change are really just freaked out >> about being sussed out and left behind because they know they don't possess >> the musicianship to meet these new challenges. >> > > Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time > dancing around, looking cool, and having software blow through their > preselected playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of > beatmatching is a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At > some point you have to ask yourself "how am I different then a bar mitzvah > DJ". > PS, "I play better tracks" isn't a good answer :) > > > >> >> >> Still not a DJ, >> Alida >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AndyW >> To: mike guglielmini >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13 am >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: >> -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the >> -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 >> -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from >> -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. >> -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media >> -&e->applications. >> >> Ableton for Mac = yes. >> >> Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking on >> other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you >> feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, get >> started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) >> >> As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: >> http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not available >> in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie signature >> with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just >> like mine) >> >> As for the whole topic of DJing: >> >> DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. >> >> Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered >> sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I change >> into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, >> editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer guzzler, >> and freak of nature. >> >> Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. They >> are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. >> >> The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my mind. >> I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played back >> to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. I've >> raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the only >> person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing while >> my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn spiffy >> underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long >> standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a >> self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was >> married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). >> >> The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these >> days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But nobody >> seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just >> don't get asked to much. >> >> So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. >> Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the love >> of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. >> Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of yourself. >> >> About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some kid >> who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, >> trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to >> bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and his >> lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. >> >> My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. >> >> DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to >> beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will >> break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out >> anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're cooking, >> gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out >> to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or >> bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's >> cool. >> >> Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick and >> how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what you >> love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have >> preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human >> League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of >> vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance and >> strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard >> with the crossed arms. >> >> andyw >> >> p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of >> vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: >> http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > --000e0cd5089c8378b30465922697-- From sfraves-return-150471-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 19:50:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51181 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 19:50:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 51155 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 19:50:31 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237578651; bh=8omoly1aCiezzM75DXYsKpZpB2DZYq+EdffiG8zlxt8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o6EzsKSnifBqXHr/wBqGts8QoCy0Mvf+pAlMLD8hu/C6uAt9lQKFf6zICmWIbNZQtkicjfGkINfSuwsfciaW/VCtuVq35QSdmR2ZYQ17HlCPpvUw4kvjPEbKI4zKVN62TUJ0fi0YHKVLQ09wfucveB2elpHAq29AybM/0QO76Vo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FAIFRPDrQlZt24lZ0kVRR4Diw128pmjVLf0cFHD7hgHukKhS+RCfhV/B6ohptXDmFyhLYf0wW9mcOYtHV50r6/zOvVFxixq63xImLjBz9z4btQFIKht4CTZLqRUHEnuIur120UkuAD10a5tjiimDAxRn5n7ZR9VlpCbZjngBzUw=; Message-ID: <197801.82117.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 3VaAGIEVM1n7lr6Sfye4DYuKEndxvZSxt8R9CDzGa3v6Ajyrhb85Hw1ms_49W1k1v1MZAPclhXHBMYgvSpYaI0Bs96Zm7hbd7OimASCYMDch2gUfIAy_X._yhgBfWOLJTs4FJ6WXngXCaJi_fWoa9a9m0tcFZOVWvzqH46YbbS1ahLNab4Y8yRqVPX2EbGucPOvgFYgMby3TGV4SSLY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:50:50 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Matt Stone , littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Check out the Pacemaker... http://mix.pacemaker.net/device And this somewhat long winded review of it in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOvipU0VeM --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150472-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 19:58:46 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60797 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 19:58:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 60778 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 19:58:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=/qPsIogdBkU7qHVA1dl0kjW72EYGr4CLDz8yvaXJqBE=; b=wtxOVH/FDuPn0M7w1A6ozLwgr03n5Oa4FX5dKa2VYupm3dU+kFAAdOWOG8RVqQsSYf Br94aHb47pTS8C7M8NnPQhT5uYY8j3Md6vHNaxpiZbLyaOp5fejSwDq9IU4L42VWfw3b 0RgO6CTQ+mz9vCOu96uVlS0QrcjNLDpJRnKwg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=GdKC0EgMdHbfXS8NykHIkpsR18+9M6rMxhRSkcaszliIvUi/GzalKYmE3gOQT8p0lC XC+fA/G6YsGi6D0aUQIJd+xMauvZCgaYuyBfYVv2n83UikgnLPZuYJ3LWp80AWcEFdMY nrGrpuPhjNjgVAUU02uIr9tAj/jJyiFuKUs8w= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <197801.82117.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> <197801.82117.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:59:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2bd005895210465925972 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd2bd005895210465925972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is... awesome! I'm all for something like this.... Imagine a club with multiple good djs roaming around with a wireless audio transmitter and a pacemaker.... would be sick! On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM, wrote: > > Check out the Pacemaker... > > http://mix.pacemaker.net/device > > And this somewhat long winded review of it in action: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOvipU0VeM > > --000e0cd2bd005895210465925972-- From sfraves-return-150473-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 19:59:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61769 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 19:59:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 61747 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 19:59:20 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=045kCoSofvwFhXIn9nUHOcp+43Ii4s5SNM+sPgs+3OU=; b=N6IVijQo8+Tl0luhv3qK7ST7yKn4l8D61ith/ONRXWnfgpOOt4m0+d4Pj9mz/LlVdv oZnoP3Z9oHE0iN9QowWdnfct5qfJFkojWXpdkpoTD+gwL7J8ZQnWhte3K/yXbhq5AEjV gTBEjLaL2UHMn3mvrLCbQWQITIbwzvzMQJ8uI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=FCSvXrP7xM4Jncnm2WsPh+eYCvIaYNgTGPp3db8SxouWgh3jXwUwnDjt2+21fU5Adq E3WfWnVu4irrm4qHYRYWK2abvWmUs0iB/pGd0CYcS+6rkVN1ynAQZEuCbDXtcxSh7Zj2 NBWKuhYhs9+ip/VAbNV+iCQB2mB+yellLyD5s= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> <197801.82117.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:59:40 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd29d9c779df20465925b33 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd29d9c779df20465925b33 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Also... she mixed in on the upbeat :p On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > That is... awesome! I'm all for something like this.... > Imagine a club with multiple good djs roaming around with a wireless audio > transmitter and a pacemaker.... would be sick! > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM, wrote: > >> >> Check out the Pacemaker... >> >> http://mix.pacemaker.net/device >> >> And this somewhat long winded review of it in action: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOvipU0VeM >> >> > --000e0cd29d9c779df20465925b33-- From sfraves-return-150474-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:03:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68987 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:03:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 68937 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:03:36 -0000 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> To: matthew.d.stone@gmail.com Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:03:48 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 204.16.158.144 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: littleetoile@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB77AE1DCA64C4_B38_2950_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 41921-STANDARD Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <8CB77AE1DBE790C-B38-145A@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks ----------MB_8CB77AE1DCA64C4_B38_2950_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" -----Original Message----- From: Matt Stone To: littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com; djdarkchyld@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 12:39 pm Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks "Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills they have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's output only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is wrong, just different." Right, which is why I prefaced my statement with pointing out that my opinion may just be because I'm not a DJ/don't have a trained ear. But this is sort of a moot point, given what I said below about it opening up new avenues for creativity. This would still provide that experience you crave, I think. "Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time dancing around, looking cool, and having software blow through their preselected playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of beatmatching is a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At some point you have to ask yourself 'how am I different then a bar mitzvah DJ'." I don't think this will be the case. Yes, it will certainly make this possibility more accessible, but that type of turntabling has always existed (e.g. nightclubs, discotheques, etc.) and nothing is changing that. The DJs to whom that appeals to will continue to play that way, and the dancers to whom that appeals to will continue to frequent those events. Just because laziness is accessible, doesn't mean people will settle for it. If that were the case, we'd all just be sitting in a room together listening to itunes (or a CD player, or a record player, or a radio, in days past). But that's not the case, is it? People have *always* demanded a more spontaneous, fluid, interactive creative experience, just as people have always been impassioned to provide that. And as always, the people who are not willing to meet this new era of possibility will fall back, and those that are will rise up. It's as simple as that. STILL not a DJ, Alida > > > Still not a DJ, > Alida > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AndyW > To: mike guglielmini > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13 am > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: > -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the > -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 > -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from > -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. > -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media > -&e->applications. > > Ableton for Mac = yes. > > Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking on > other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you > feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, get > started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) > > As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: > http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not available > in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie signature > with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just > like mine) > > As for the whole topic of DJing: > > DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. > > Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered > sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I change > into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, > editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer guzzler, > and freak of nature. > > Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. They > are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. > > The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my mind. > I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played back > to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. I've > raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the only > person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing while > my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn spiffy > underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long > standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a > self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was > married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). > > The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these > days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But nobody > seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just > don't get asked to much. > > So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. > Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the love > of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. > Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of yourself. > > About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some kid > who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, > trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to > bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and his > lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. > > My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. > > DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to > beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will > break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out > anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're cooking, > gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out > to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or > bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's > cool. > > Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick and > how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what you > love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have > preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human > League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of > vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance and > strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard > with the crossed arms. > > andyw > > p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of > vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: > http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > ----------MB_8CB77AE1DCA64C4_B38_2950_MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com-- From sfraves-return-150475-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:10:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78423 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:10:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 78402 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:10:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=csuUXg4y7q7PL8SsiM6QdtUtIfTFRhxe+SuZpbDy3Ds=; b=mX0Ynkq5AFT46mZcY6vd2BkiklBLkucJZHhNOLn3fPMiTbGx285nLHqVQGvz+AIJgk GOnMMPdQSU3eFqLkQwVCOd818QKIJvFxMoRSQTrNORALAGsf9kdTh9ayL1UeDTxZr2jU mpTJWxgi3Cie9rvvQRmuqy7ULGu6BS2LFQUbs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=he8kVck5/5dG47wLByEMe0JRt2J7PV90tMfDGWT2GXB3P4Lf/2fv8fx/aPzs0pSE38 9eVS9VGGsfoAGoNTyqyMjm752ShmJ4mviqRSQDrFXIbnyVuXoC7mzddoJeBNAZ4ClGde KlJWyYqcTGctxbsj7KgXMuO9EgL5cI36ElyTU= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: <5c23c6720903201310i5a3abb57uf28c5f5cda78d9de@mail.gmail.com> From: Matthew Johnson To: Matt Stone Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163646c7b69f3519046592835d X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --00163646c7b69f3519046592835d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit actually, "I play better tracks" is as valid an answer as it is possible to give for that question. the biggest factor in a set being good or sucking is.....Track Selection! and who would have guessed people care more about hearing great songs than they do about hearing great transitions? that's why the iPod dj can blow up a place even if he trainwrecks every mix: he's playing the right song for the moment and that is what counts the most. that's by no means to say selection is the only factor, but you can be just plain decent at mixing, nothing terribly special, and people will love your sets if you're a great track selector and can keep a groove going. if you think ableton etc. will lead us to a new era of lazy, bad dj'ing, i'd like to ask if you think we'd be better off if those same people still became dj's but used vinyl. they'd still probably be terrible and lazy about the things that really matter, and they'd have beatmatching to praise themself for if they learn how to do it. i don't think we'd be better off at all. i started dj'ing towards the end of the vinyl era, but decks were still the thing to get so i learned how to beatmatch and cue a record. took practice but (and let me emphasize this) it's the kind of skill that almost anyone could learn if they practice seriously. that's all beatmatching is, a skill anyone can learn if they take the time. the lowest common denominator of the dj world. when i first went to college i had no room for decks, a mixer, and vinyl, so i made friends with someone who had CDJ's and kept right on going. i've used ableton off and on depending on if i had access to CDJs at the time, cause it's that or just quitting for a while. i guess what i'm saying is, technology changes. use what's useful to you, and barring that use what you can get. there's no reason to hold one piece of technology in esteem over others just because it's older. lastly, i am in complete agreement with everything Andy and Alida said better than i could. On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Matt Stone >wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, wrote: > > > >> > >> What Andy said before I got a chance to. Yeah. > >> > >> Seriously though- and maybe this is because I'm not a DJ so I don't have > >> any personal investment (or, admittedly, a trained ear/musical > >> knowledge/etc.), but- why the fuck should it matter? > >> > >> A DJ is there to rock the crowd. Period. If software is assisting with > >> that, who cares? Does it mean we should enjoy ourselves less? Does it > mean > >> it detracts from the experience? The only thing it detracts from is DJ > >> worship (uuuuwww he can beatmatch!) and I don't think that matters. > Again, > >> maybe this is just because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the ins and > outs > >> of turntabling, but seems to me that the people who are pissed about > this > >> software being used are really just butthurt that they're not in the > cool > >> club anymore. The resistance to the software is the resistance to ego > loss. > >> "But, but, he's cheating! I CAN DO WHAT HE DOES WITHOUT THAT SOFTWARE!" > >> That's great, and not to say that your abilities and talent shouldn't be > >> respected, but guess what? It's not about you. It's about whether you > get > >> people shaking it on the dancefloor, software-assisted or not. > >> > > > > Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills > they > > have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's > output > > only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also > > listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is > > wrong, just different. > > > > > >> > >> If anything, I think it could lead the way for some serious > breakthroughs > >> because it lends itself to increased creativity and working outside the > box. > >> With the beatmatching hurdle eliminated, for example, people have more > >> freedom to tweek shit around and focus on other aspects. It also > encourages > >> DJs to try new things and push the envelope to set themselves apart from > >> every other DJ Tom, Dick or Harry who is relying on the same software to > do > >> what previously had to be learned. Does that make sense? > >> > >> If suddenly everyone can do what was already done, it means DJing has to > >> be reinvented to up the ante. The previous lowest common denominator of > DJ > >> skillz (yes, with a "z") has now been eliminated from the equation so > the > >> bar for success has to be set higher. That could lead to some amazing > shit > >> and I'm all for it. If you're a real lover of dance music, if you're a > true > >> musician and in it to make amazing music and rock the crowd, then you > would > >> be, too. You would be embracing this opportunity to revitalize the art > and > >> create anew, thrilled by the avenues this open us, the seemingly > infinite > >> possibilities of where this could take dance music and DJing. Not to say > >> that vinyl and turntabling shouldn't still be appreciated and respected, > but > >> the people who are pissed about this change are really just freaked out > >> about being sussed out and left behind because they know they don't > possess > >> the musicianship to meet these new challenges. > >> > > > > Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time > > dancing around, looking cool, and having software blow through their > > preselected playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of > > beatmatching is a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At > > some point you have to ask yourself "how am I different then a bar > mitzvah > > DJ". > > > > PS, "I play better tracks" isn't a good answer :) > > > > > > > > > >> > >> > >> Still not a DJ, > >> Alida > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: AndyW > >> To: mike guglielmini > >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > >> Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13 am > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: > >> -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the > >> -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 > >> -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from > >> -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too soon. > >> -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media > >> -&e->applications. > >> > >> Ableton for Mac = yes. > >> > >> Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking on > >> other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you > >> feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, > get > >> started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) > >> > >> As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: > >> http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not > available > >> in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie signature > >> with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just > >> like mine) > >> > >> As for the whole topic of DJing: > >> > >> DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. > >> > >> Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered > >> sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I change > >> into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, > >> editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer guzzler, > >> and freak of nature. > >> > >> Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. They > >> are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. > >> > >> The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my > mind. > >> I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played > back > >> to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. > I've > >> raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the > only > >> person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing while > >> my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn spiffy > >> underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long > >> standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a > >> self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was > >> married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). > >> > >> The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these > >> days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But nobody > >> seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just > >> don't get asked to much. > >> > >> So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. > >> Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the > love > >> of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. > >> Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of > yourself. > >> > >> About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some > kid > >> who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, > >> trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to > >> bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and > his > >> lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. > >> > >> My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. > >> > >> DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to > >> beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will > >> break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out > >> anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're > cooking, > >> gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out > >> to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or > >> bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's > >> cool. > >> > >> Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick and > >> how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what > you > >> love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have > >> preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human > >> League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of > >> vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance and > >> strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard > >> with the crossed arms. > >> > >> andyw > >> > >> p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of > >> vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: > >> http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > --00163646c7b69f3519046592835d-- From sfraves-return-150476-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:12:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81628 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:12:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81611 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:12:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=U58Io9PqpTnMX6U1V/gxOUIYxL9KaK9cykeWvWK4cOE=; b=Exh054w8uezWAU/4tVJdVIJbd3vSiR+qhkRIrAV1lo7/ktDbd6BrcIjHDcpXuUWTyq b2QnbXt+MIvJVxrlrii9AmkJfLZRCvw0+f9PI18heI0j18yoRWg7LAzE/yr8gtLkQWlu Nj2ZFzm4d3mszNL9kYpSR6o2alRkq6WLkXgZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=BZcvQr6Gmq3UGdwpQGeFaESROTy1GxvCColJEl6+es+GT5v59lqFhIInZBDL3KQhbO J+sEMHNI2tnuVgSnZuZ5xCWuEQwX3SE4u/EpRV3B4CCaHHySJ39fwKVs3xfl1tA9luVI LQlF3M0ajtbXKgSHYwKHte1Tjg7M3WehCVJKc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5c23c6720903201310i5a3abb57uf28c5f5cda78d9de@mail.gmail.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> <5c23c6720903201310i5a3abb57uf28c5f5cda78d9de@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:13:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Matt Stone To: Matthew Johnson Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd14836abe7780465928bf6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd14836abe7780465928bf6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote: > actually, "I play better tracks" is as valid an answer as it is possible to > give for that question. the biggest factor in a set being good or sucking > is.....Track Selection! Am I not allowed to disagree with this point? What if track selection is only half of the picture for my ears? Am I some elitist? > and who would have guessed people care more about hearing great songs > than they do about hearing great transitions? that's why the iPod dj can > blow up a place even if he trainwrecks every mix: he's playing the right > song for the moment and that is what counts the most. that's by no means to > say selection is the only factor, but you can be just plain decent at > mixing, nothing terribly special, and people will love your sets if you're a > great track selector and can keep a groove going. > > if you think ableton etc. will lead us to a new era of lazy, bad dj'ing, > i'd like to ask if you think we'd be better off if those same people still > became dj's but used vinyl. they'd still probably be terrible and lazy > about the things that really matter, and they'd have beatmatching to praise > themself for if they learn how to do it. i don't think we'd be better off > at all. > > i started dj'ing towards the end of the vinyl era, but decks were still the > thing to get so i learned how to beatmatch and cue a record. took practice > but (and let me emphasize this) it's the kind of skill that almost anyone > could learn if they practice seriously. that's all beatmatching is, a skill > anyone can learn if they take the time. the lowest common denominator of > the dj world. when i first went to college i had no room for decks, a > mixer, and vinyl, so i made friends with someone who had CDJ's and kept > right on going. i've used ableton off and on depending on if i had access > to CDJs at the time, cause it's that or just quitting for a while. i guess > what i'm saying is, technology changes. use what's useful to you, and > barring that use what you can get. there's no reason to hold one piece of > technology in esteem over others just because it's older. > > lastly, i am in complete agreement with everything Andy and Alida said > better than i could. > > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Matt Stone > >wrote: >> >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> What Andy said before I got a chance to. Yeah. >> >> >> >> Seriously though- and maybe this is because I'm not a DJ so I don't >> have >> >> any personal investment (or, admittedly, a trained ear/musical >> >> knowledge/etc.), but- why the fuck should it matter? >> >> >> >> A DJ is there to rock the crowd. Period. If software is assisting with >> >> that, who cares? Does it mean we should enjoy ourselves less? Does it >> mean >> >> it detracts from the experience? The only thing it detracts from is DJ >> >> worship (uuuuwww he can beatmatch!) and I don't think that matters. >> Again, >> >> maybe this is just because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the ins and >> outs >> >> of turntabling, but seems to me that the people who are pissed about >> this >> >> software being used are really just butthurt that they're not in the >> cool >> >> club anymore. The resistance to the software is the resistance to ego >> loss. >> >> "But, but, he's cheating! I CAN DO WHAT HE DOES WITHOUT THAT SOFTWARE!" >> >> That's great, and not to say that your abilities and talent shouldn't >> be >> >> respected, but guess what? It's not about you. It's about whether you >> get >> >> people shaking it on the dancefloor, software-assisted or not. >> >> >> > >> > Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills >> they >> > have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's >> output >> > only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us >> also >> > listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that >> is >> > wrong, just different. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> If anything, I think it could lead the way for some serious >> breakthroughs >> >> because it lends itself to increased creativity and working outside the >> box. >> >> With the beatmatching hurdle eliminated, for example, people have more >> >> freedom to tweek shit around and focus on other aspects. It also >> encourages >> >> DJs to try new things and push the envelope to set themselves apart >> from >> >> every other DJ Tom, Dick or Harry who is relying on the same software >> to do >> >> what previously had to be learned. Does that make sense? >> >> >> >> If suddenly everyone can do what was already done, it means DJing has >> to >> >> be reinvented to up the ante. The previous lowest common denominator of >> DJ >> >> skillz (yes, with a "z") has now been eliminated from the equation so >> the >> >> bar for success has to be set higher. That could lead to some amazing >> shit >> >> and I'm all for it. If you're a real lover of dance music, if you're a >> true >> >> musician and in it to make amazing music and rock the crowd, then you >> would >> >> be, too. You would be embracing this opportunity to revitalize the art >> and >> >> create anew, thrilled by the avenues this open us, the seemingly >> infinite >> >> possibilities of where this could take dance music and DJing. Not to >> say >> >> that vinyl and turntabling shouldn't still be appreciated and >> respected, but >> >> the people who are pissed about this change are really just freaked out >> >> about being sussed out and left behind because they know they don't >> possess >> >> the musicianship to meet these new challenges. >> >> >> > >> > Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time >> > dancing around, looking cool, and having software blow through their >> > preselected playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of >> > beatmatching is a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At >> > some point you have to ask yourself "how am I different then a bar >> mitzvah >> > DJ". >> > >> >> PS, "I play better tracks" isn't a good answer :) >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Still not a DJ, >> >> Alida >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: AndyW >> >> To: mike guglielmini >> >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> >> Sent: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:13 am >> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, mike guglielmini wrote: >> >> -&e->now that i can agree with. as long as your still doing the >> >> -&e->beatmatching yourself. ableton is a little different tho from mp3 >> >> -&e->mixing because with ableton you can do live remixes and shit from >> >> -&e->what im told. havent actually looked into it yet but plan too >> soon. >> >> -&e->can you get ableton on mac? cuz i hate pc.. especially for media >> >> -&e->applications. >> >> >> >> Ableton for Mac = yes. >> >> >> >> Remixing in Ableton = yes (although it's way more fun to stop hacking >> on >> >> other people's shit and just write your own music in Ableton, or if you >> >> feel like saving some money and don't mind learning some key commands, >> get >> >> started today with ReNoise *it's free and quite badass*) >> >> >> >> As far as a controller goes, you absolutely have to use a: >> >> http://saturn5.com/andy/images/caltrain/phatboy-oakie.JPG (not >> available >> >> in stores, but I can make you one, I can even put a fake Oakie >> signature >> >> with "With Love Frum IBITHAARH" in silver pen on the back so it's just >> >> like mine) >> >> >> >> As for the whole topic of DJing: >> >> >> >> DJing can suck my fucking balls, long live DJing. >> >> >> >> Hello world, my name is Andy. You might know me as a mild mannered >> >> sysadmin, who likes to write long posts but at night I change. I >> change >> >> into things. Among the things I turn into are dj, guitarist, producer, >> >> editor, guitarist, sound system tuner, dancer, shittalker, beer >> guzzler, >> >> and freak of nature. >> >> >> >> Oh wait, no I don't. I don't change at all, I'm all those things. >> They >> >> are not identities, they are traits or abilities or interests. >> >> >> >> The whole concept of the DJ as a figure worthy of respect boggles my >> mind. >> >> I've done my time as one (something like 13 years now). I've played >> back >> >> to back with people like Christian Smith, DJ Rush, and John Selway. >> I've >> >> raged 5000 people at once and also had that sinking feeling when the >> only >> >> person on the dancefloor does that 'look busy and walk away' thing >> while >> >> my favorite track is playing. I've helped throw some pretty darn >> spiffy >> >> underground events and clubs, put out a couple records, been a long >> >> standing and vocal personality on this list, and probably been called a >> >> self-righteous douche more than your dad (no, not the guy your mom was >> >> married to, your *real* dad, the pool guy). >> >> >> >> The funny thing about this is that nobody seems to know who I am these >> >> days. The music that I came in on, techno, is still played. But >> nobody >> >> seems to remember me. I still make music, I still love it, but I just >> >> don't get asked to much. >> >> >> >> So what's my point other than talking about myself? I don't need one. >> >> Just kidding. My point is that you should do what you love, for the >> love >> >> of it, and not count on something outside yourself to define yourself. >> >> Your success and satisfaction should come from within, and be of >> yourself. >> >> >> >> About a year ago, I went to a club that was GOING OFF INSANELY to some >> kid >> >> who wasn't even born in 1983 playing Human League off an iPod, >> >> trainwrecking merrily from track to track. And it made me want to >> >> bitchslap him, really hard, repeatedly. I thought of my ability, and >> his >> >> lack thereof. My skill, my talent, my records, my gear, my energy. >> >> >> >> My ass. I was jealous. Just plain petty. >> >> >> >> DJing is just playing music these days. Some people know how to >> >> beatmatch, and that's cool. Some people have some rare tunes that will >> >> break your brain, and that's cool. Some people will never 'dj' out >> >> anywhere, but they meticulously set up playlists for when they're >> cooking, >> >> gardening, watching porn, whatever. Some people just like jamming out >> >> to whatever is new that week and don't think much of what's good or >> >> bad, they just ride this timeline of stuff that comes out. And that's >> >> cool. >> >> >> >> Don't dream of being a succesful DJ. If you like the music you pick >> and >> >> how you bring it in, you already are. The point I'm making is do what >> you >> >> love with music, and people might get it. With format, sure I have >> >> preferences, but I gotta hand it to the guy with the iPod playing Human >> >> League, he was killing it. For all my knowledge of music, deep bag of >> >> vinyl tricks, zen philosophies and their applications to performance >> and >> >> strange experiences... that night I was just the grumpy looking bastard >> >> with the crossed arms. >> >> >> >> andyw >> >> >> >> p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of >> >> vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: >> >> http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > > --000e0cd14836abe7780465928bf6-- From sfraves-return-150477-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:27:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95649 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:27:41 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 95630 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:27:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237580880; bh=UW+/QHX4t4E1lt5VkGcXMw5l3fIaDB0PjRFTp/65Mgo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mOvS3S2sBtwachC5Vn/kDqK4TxIqcL7RCl/yjDDMnafFyLel3Pgm4dp+jogZeEYzXXIMj0rxSOQCWYBudRIoRj4pH//9zz2qk3jk5ByDe9NeEtpC1yD748Z3MH5uDCxHtb3gSwEfUuLtGxxB0cay6EF2BQalKCZNWD3q3klW33s= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OSIF60jUeZSb5ivK0lKBlLYX4xqqlvcBRnUhpK4cWK0mpmLekSh4xz9QpzKNzBUtlIrnrWusmxIXvarPHrvu4vDN8TB8X20bG+SwPC0EFoRCjmV85O4xxM5sJQAkf4JMSQdpypOmUXnCCCs/37XB6HOrAgo7vM1xYEooihQS3Qs=; Message-ID: <635531.90200.qm@web65605.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: afwRwqUVM1lL6c_A3FxILLjGezXL7Zo5T336rdeFs57vK.2TfDJYMrRnj7KanJcmkbZNYYqi0qa6ZHP9nKx_qModB8uEJmXvbk744SxUfzJoY2ZrDoOEPyqpzBW4IAcxG6NAsnRoEAqUfzON1M.yZ83.ztBloxs0tzf7fWZwMr7NbDx273caSCvrfScY30d660eA9IATmr7Xd.KEae5LXp6MqvMf X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1155.45 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: George Cochrane To: Matt Stone , littleetoile@aol.com Cc: andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks This is the thing, grasshopper: ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Stone Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills they have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's output only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is wrong, just different. --- Beatmatching is a rote skill, as basic as riding a bike. It's a neat trick, but it's not art. Track selection, transitions, reacting to the crowd, energy management, creative sound processing- these are arts, and quite technical.. And all of them happen in today's laptop DJing, whether the DJ chooses to beatmatch themselves or not. In fact, laptop djs have the capability to have more tracks, MUCH better processing options, more control, more creative tools, etc. --- Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time dancing around, looking cool, and having software blow through their preselected playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of beatmatching is a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At some point you have to ask yourself "how am I different then a bar mitzvah DJ". --- But what do you call that 3-5 minute chunk in the middle of most dj tracks where the dj has little to do but drop the bass out here and there and try to look like they're doing something? That doesn't change in laptop djing, only when i hit that chunk, I can choose to totally fuck shit up, mix in loops from 3 other tracks, or whatever. It's like giving performer a box full of new toys. All one can do in vinyl is match up another track and start mixing them together. The best djs can really get shit going that way, but most of them are on Serato these days anyway. I agree- people trying to act like a performer while a preselected playlist plays are turds- but those people aren't djs or performers, and they don't represent the state of the art of what people are doing with laptops. My dj gigs have as much adrenaline and danger as ever- I just have a lot more say in the way shit sounds. -G --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150478-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:40:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8472 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:40:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 8440 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:40:34 -0000 Message-ID: <20090320154054.6ezp9vjaw0k0ccsk@webmail.viberation.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:40:54 -0500 From: osby@viberation.com To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks fuckin' A man.... I haaaaaaaaate tractor DJs!! Grrr... people call themselves DJs who use tractor are fuckin' assholes & idiots!! LoL.. Hello 2Day... oh my goodness man... yeah... mondo hardcore lamesauce!! Probably not what you were getting at, maybe, I dunno... but I hate tractor DJs!!!! Peace=-> Just Me=-> Osby {8O) Quoting mike guglielmini : > maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? > are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their > sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are > outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives me > nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind of > musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and shyt > then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's that are > collecting dust right now. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150479-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:53:48 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18146 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:53:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 18127 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:53:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:54:08 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-X-Sender: andy@atari To: Matt Stone cc: littleetoile@aol.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks I just had an incredible bowl of pho, and I have a few minutes before I gotta get back to work. Lucky me... On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Matt Stone wrote: -&e->On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:17 PM, wrote: -&e-> -&e->> -&e->> What Andy said before I got a chance to. Yeah. -&e->> -&e->> Seriously though- and maybe this is because I'm not a DJ so I don't have -&e->> any personal investment (or, admittedly, a trained ear/musical -&e->> knowledge/etc.), but- why the fuck should it matter? You don't have to be a trapeze artist to enjoy the circus, ya know? -&e->> A DJ is there to rock the crowd. Period. If software is assisting with -&e->> that, who cares? Does it mean we should enjoy ourselves less? Does it mean -&e->> it detracts from the experience? The only thing it detracts from is DJ -&e->> worship (uuuuwww he can beatmatch!) and I don't think that matters. Again, -&e->> maybe this is just because I'm not knowledgeable enough on the ins and outs -&e->> of turntabling, but seems to me that the people who are pissed about this -&e->> software being used are really just butthurt that they're not in the cool -&e->> club anymore. The resistance to the software is the resistance to ego loss. -&e->> "But, but, he's cheating! I CAN DO WHAT HE DOES WITHOUT THAT SOFTWARE!" -&e->> That's great, and not to say that your abilities and talent shouldn't be -&e->> respected, but guess what? It's not about you. It's about whether you get -&e->> people shaking it on the dancefloor, software-assisted or not. Eh, it chaps my ass a bit too, but I'm coming to realize it's because I practiced *a lot* for years and years and years and it seems cheap. -&e->Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills they -&e->have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's output -&e->only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also -&e->listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is -&e->wrong, just different. I love the craft of DJing off vinyl, don't get me wrong. -&e->> If anything, I think it could lead the way for some serious breakthroughs -&e->> because it lends itself to increased creativity and working outside the box. -&e->> With the beatmatching hurdle eliminated, for example, people have more -&e->> freedom to tweek shit around and focus on other aspects. It also encourages -&e->> DJs to try new things and push the envelope to set themselves apart from -&e->> every other DJ Tom, Dick or Harry who is relying on the same software to do -&e->> what previously had to be learned. Does that make sense? In theory yes, in practice no. It creates a new path of least resistance. I've seen DJ after DJ that basically have their set all laid out in software before they play. You could shoot them dead and the only change you'd hear is less annoying filter/cut action. I want all the new technology to make music better, but it's just not. I'm really starting to love these old sets that have been popping up, just two decks and a Rane MP-24 (a mixer that didn't have gains or per channel eq, but just sounded fucking great). Music wasn't so compressed, you had to know your records better before per channel EQs became popular, etc. http://www.thegathering-sf.com/music.html <- old school gear + records = ! -&e->> If suddenly everyone can do what was already done, it means DJing has to be -&e->> reinvented to up the ante. The previous lowest common denominator of DJ -&e->> skillz (yes, with a "z") has now been eliminated from the equation so the -&e->> bar for success has to be set higher. That could lead to some amazing shit -&e->> and I'm all for it. If you're a real lover of dance music, if you're a true -&e->> musician and in it to make amazing music and rock the crowd, then you would -&e->> be, too. You would be embracing this opportunity to revitalize the art and -&e->> create anew, thrilled by the avenues this open us, the seemingly infinite -&e->> possibilities of where this could take dance music and DJing. Not to say -&e->> that vinyl and turntabling shouldn't still be appreciated and respected, but -&e->> the people who are pissed about this change are really just freaked out -&e->> about being sussed out and left behind because they know they don't possess -&e->> the musicianship to meet these new challenges. The world is changing, and what I've noticed is that the sun is setting on DJing in general. The technology already exists to beatmatch most of the stuff out there from computer control. Soon, your aunt will be able to play a beatmatched funk + disco set while doing the dishes out of media player or itunes, just pick the genre, tempo and feel. Most of the best artists I met in DJ-land are moving towards bands, live collaboration, production and other art forms. We have to ask ourselves if we're just seeing the tide turn back after putting too much stock in an idea. I personally find that I like my music with less changes, more hypnotic, than crowds seem to these days. I can't stand electro-house, the rave revival shit that's been coming out... too many cheesy cliche'd changes, it's ADD as all hell, it never seems to really settle into a _groove_. But as ravE gave way to Club, the chemistry of the partygoers has changed... and hell, I can play my old mixes or go out and catch some dubstep, house or maybe hit up a techno weekly if I want to hear what I want to hear. -&e->Or it could lead to a new era of laziness, where DJs spend more time dancing -&e->around, looking cool, and having software blow through their preselected -&e->playlist. I personally don't think eliminating the skill of beatmatching is -&e->a positive, but hey, you are all free to disagree :) At some point you have -&e->to ask yourself "how am I different then a bar mitzvah DJ". Ask yourself that *now*. You're not. In fact, I'd be willing to say it's *harder* in some ways to take requests, not offend the old people while not boring the young people and be the wedding/prom kinda DJ than it is to have my name on a flyer and have the expectation to play what the fuck I want. It's fun to watch a room full of peoples hands go up in the air and eyes roll back when you're fucking killing it in a build mix... not so much watching a bunch of akward people do the Electric Slide or slow dance to Crazy for You *one*more*time*. At the "heyday" of the time I was playing parties, I was working my goddamn ass off. I didn't plan sets ahead of time but knew my records cold, I read the crowd, I usually packed two boxes (named Fat Man and Little Boy) if I was planning on playing more than an hour. I scratched, I eq'd, I hot mixed, I beat juggled and banged doubles, I three decked, tag teamed, 2x4'd, etc. I bought records like crazy, when I walked into Open Mind or Solid Grooves, there would usually be a small pile of records put aside for me, cause these people knew what I liked. And I was making about a third as much per booking, and seeing less bookings, as a pair of goons who played 8-12 minute long records end to end, often repeating the same set night after night. The records almost all had the same rhythm, no swing, only came out on a few labels, and featured *obvious* "mix here" points where the bassline fell out making their lives easy. They looked so bored mixing, except when the tracks would build, when their hands would come up and they'd do their fake cheerleader shit. Their popularity drove me batshit, I hated them. And 25 years from now, they'll be the ones who are remembered. Vinyl is not a guarantee of skill. DJing is not a meritocracy, it just is what it is. If someone is picking out prerecorded music and playing it, they're a DJ. Everything else is a matter of opinion and taste. andyw --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150480-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 20:54:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19133 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 20:54:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 19115 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 20:54:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8KxT/chuZMefQlB3F+42cCFBSmxJdeqS0ujjGAcp9fc=; b=WO6Jdr2c4osMqunoeNCMajyE5yncAmia2MWruY/Hx+/VrSipiQc5/xskNe0Dr7Dkhu ifP5x++y+eCdvbaSEm9Qa5UbEreUzryS3Mb8QYb4m/+MQuRXe5ORDyvp1bX643qdgWay fs7gbhRstIHCMbnmxL0Da1JkHuQAeU0L4hUdE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=s6oIett+J5T/fCQD87EGBrP+OchUm6Kk0yO8mJJllRA5lk/jm/tRlERcbjfqYcrwPi RfRWYlM6Lx1+m9qoPTJNrP2TTm3geNOJ5ib5pqycJd3Lj9hUClyxoBFD/R2WOWqbgmos JDcmyeI3qCVcmPhoAKej77y0T22Jymqe1BvEo= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <784d138a0903201155n2a75c09bxd11ba3e8b3568203@mail.gmail.com> References: <3962ab980903192212i7f28a48jd3963a28ee196125@mail.gmail.com> <784d138a0903201155n2a75c09bxd11ba3e8b3568203@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 13:54:48 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Luke 0.o" To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636417931a2fe2a046593209f X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: Dirty Secrets Underground this Sat w/Jeno, Andrew Phelan, Eric Sharp (Bday boy) & More --001636417931a2fe2a046593209f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If its underground whys there an age limit? On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Katie wrote: > Hellz yeah! Last year your party was off the HOOK - actually got *more* > packed at about 4am!! > > Can't wait for Saturday night! > > Happy Birthday Eric!!! xoxox > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Rock It Science < > rockitsciencesf@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > Saturday, 3/21/09 | 10 PM - Late | 21 + > > > > Rock It Science Presents: Dirty Secrets - Eric Sharp's Bday Edition > > > > Dirty Secrets busts out again in a fresh warehouse space perfect for an > > evening of shenanigans. One of SF's busiest fun-makers, Rock It Science > > founder Eric Sharp invites all of you to join him in celebrating another > > year of existence on this lovely planet and has organized a great lineup > of > > DJ friends to throw down in celebration. Come early and stay late as you > > won't want to miss a beat! > > > > DJs for the night: > > > > Jeno (Back 2 Back) > > Andrew Phelan (Prismatic) > > Eric Sharp (Rock It Science, Flavor Group) > > Michael Anthony (Supperclub) > > Bo (Deep Blue) > > Bass Cadet (Rock It Science) > > White Girl Lust (Solid Bump) > > > > Info Line courtesy of Prismatic (call for location the night of): > > > > 888 482 9281 > > > > Hope to see you there! > > > --001636417931a2fe2a046593209f-- From sfraves-return-150481-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 21:05:21 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27293 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 21:05:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27273 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 21:05:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237583141; bh=PZUuc+FfrWGiu1y6IAfAVCbQ1ewjbg+j+2h5ZpUtsyE=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FbnuauL+Re4S6lclXEgleNcBwocRiR4uheHMQA8SJUSmWHW8kCp6z0sDkelKJsCm/OuvQY6lqnNj/4OsdeszJ5KdJh21Q+SUqwwnb4Im+m109FStrgXANuyNPTDbnr/RRnVCwfzxgoKxSGlE+9IJXH48EDWcrvktCWyARAyZXJ4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BUULNbkLVNPQvp8eBdVcpsRlXRoLu6t5Or8fiESLpcW+WyJkS3DwUcoGtY1adn8Kv5YDc8bVzK8w/Sh+/5L984Fnee/frTbReZFLkJwFSdOrbC2rBEqe+HKgetUYCSNftGGjyB2y3JR4cu9cv+FX0eMcEPIZOWQoQPDaDDLGgsw=; Message-ID: <721475.97640.qm@web32405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dQeIeXwVM1nMjmHIF7b5WGqeuxYPXuLOQJhpXlrgNF1m_hPovo8ptXKmM_OENq7qnso5ytKey0zgBQ.SYPM6k5hMp43TucIHW1upR_.g38qKP65XX5ffEU.uA4RQvPC_EIV.HFlkSoa5xChORPOf0jVar5t9POsVBNKx8s3V6WbJDncQO2a7RikWUJ0.2yn92I8luqERw.9AvK6VOvo- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> <197801.82117.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:05:41 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Matt Stone Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Let's do it! ----- Original Message ---- From: Matt Stone To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Cc: littleetoile@aol.com; andy@saturn5.com; djdarkchyld@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:59:05 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks That is... awesome! I'm all for something like this.... Imagine a club with multiple good djs roaming around with a wireless audio transmitter and a pacemaker.... would be sick! On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM, wrote: > > Check out the Pacemaker... > > http://mix.pacemaker.net/device > > And this somewhat long winded review of it in action: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOvipU0VeM > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150482-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 21:15:23 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35580 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 21:15:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35564 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 21:15:22 -0000 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: AndyW X-X-Sender: andy@atari To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <721475.97640.qm@web32405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> <197801.82117.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <721475.97640.qm@web32405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Pshaaa... I can already use my iPhone to control my live pa rig. TouchOSC + Max/MSP = remote control of anything that speaks midi or OSC. On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: -&e-> -&e->Let's do it! -&e-> -&e-> -&e-> -&e->----- Original Message ---- -&e->From: Matt Stone -&e->To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com -&e->Cc: littleetoile@aol.com; andy@saturn5.com; djdarkchyld@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org -&e->Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:59:05 PM -&e->Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks -&e-> -&e->That is... awesome! I'm all for something like this.... -&e->Imagine a club with multiple good djs roaming around with a wireless audio -&e->transmitter and a pacemaker.... would be sick! -&e-> -&e->On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:50 PM, wrote: -&e-> -&e->> -&e->> Check out the Pacemaker... -&e->> -&e->> http://mix.pacemaker.net/device -&e->> -&e->> And this somewhat long winded review of it in action: -&e->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpOvipU0VeM -&e->> -&e->> -&e-> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150483-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Mar 20 22:25:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2975 invoked by uid 1103); 20 Mar 2009 22:25:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 2958 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2009 22:25:01 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=berkeleyrecords.com; h=Received:References:Message-Id:From:To:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Subject:Date:Cc:X-Identified-User; b=v9fYitzym7ksNFkSiu8jK6jmgiMwKyeXlQBrOf02ljpfVurzKeqVuvDSYJGX5vzlv1cexd7tPiOrLffs+zk6gTdMpeR1amw1v9PhY6SVKNdhv8hgtQp8PKDnJQ0/mILC; References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20090320154054.6ezp9vjaw0k0ccsk@webmail.viberation.com> Message-Id: <52576D6B-EC8D-4627-AA53-28DE5D0674E8@berkeleyrecords.com> From: "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" To: "osby@viberation.com" In-Reply-To: <20090320154054.6ezp9vjaw0k0ccsk@webmail.viberation.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (5G77) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 5G77) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:25:16 -0700 Cc: mike guglielmini , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" X-Identified-User: {2918:host352.hostmonster.com:berkele4:berkeleyrecords.com} {sentby:smtp auth 32.175.102.157 authed with jimip@berkeleyrecords.com} X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Blood worms Sent from ? On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, osby@viberation.com wrote: > fuckin' A man.... I haaaaaaaaate tractor DJs!! Grrr... people call > themselves DJs who use tractor are fuckin' assholes & idiots!! > LoL.. Hello 2Day... oh my goodness man... yeah... mondo hardcore > lamesauce!! > > Probably not what you were getting at, maybe, I dunno... but I hate > tractor DJs!!!! > > > Peace=-> > Just Me=-> > Osby {8O) > > > Quoting mike guglielmini : > >> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? >> are all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do >> their sets or is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks >> are outdated. no one uses anything but laptops here and it drives >> me nuts. what happened to djs actually having to have some kind >> of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all laptops and >> shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech 1200's >> that are collecting dust right now. >> >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150484-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 02:29:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4893 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 02:29:29 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 4877 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 02:29:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237602588; bh=cQw3izf21GWnWZBbjIPcsZOR7mY3YQdScQsTHXRmgCo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t1qFPpvHq6JtpXaB8jI6FRDLjh0oDnadDvCQum/gMz0vVIp2gzIQxNIrVivtkqPptQSDAdWkKd9x8TXVGNasgX1o4GpiOOJ3s8Yh/jewd+lxnMl2tx739M6IGRd/NH8kaIZ9TaB9/Xjzl6bT+dmVU3or9huxFGRFUG4Rf2YT6G4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q3m2qGFAHBKFDEI0g7QxhwZj6fsdFBEpdq2spsVml5gtbPzBkASzbr2J4q5EWaFENcdGNgXcuZC+hIwglxv5vNy/qgPZScElmaflt2kpecr98w24T3r9jFLCwvCkujp8/9BlrK7zu+FDAIaTHoQdtL/658DyczsplE0fS6FfSKI=; Message-ID: <765317.86135.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Z9pWs7kVM1nARp25l9c0z3YA3_BxIx_ZAO.9oUc1LbsX.o_OwTApKp3jg.watOgljrpr6Wf8vtYc9OKGqzSbJHm7br56YtMk_v3MbFw1NkBGIVvs6nnrylm1guHIQGKFxJiNxgRe1gCNGjSnG3WFr9X5e2RSxVHYYam.p.MpGkgmhgCFZsWGAurBxEr.VQv11zBy2VJ6w6hsp36mULlcMT15z9IOkTsKYds- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.2.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.10 Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Layla Lewis To: "osby@viberation.com" , "jimip@berkeleyrecords.com" Cc: mike guglielmini , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1248127092-1237602588=:86135" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1248127092-1237602588=:86135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable this phenomenon is rooted in a couple hard to take realities.... first and = foremost, most of the music these days is not being released on vinyl. it's= almost all entirely digital download. even though using something like fin= al scratch or tractor preserves some semblance of what most people think wh= en they see the word "dj" why go the extra step?=20 also, at least here in sf, (or perhaps in my families) so many people incor= porate their own music, whether finished tracks or layering components that= ableton live does make more sense. there will always be shitty djs and producers. because we're on the leading= edge of new technologies which theoretically make djing and producing "eas= ier" and the lower cost of digital technology definitely makes it more fina= ncially accessible to every frikkin idiot that wants to be a star there is = perhaps a flood of subpar production and sets these days but in the end qua= lity will win out. i hope.=20 and yes. there is still vinyl. you gotta warn a promoter, otherwise there w= on't be needles on the tables, but vinyl is still loved. and because of the rarity when things= get released on vinyl it's usually really good.=20 the thing that drives me insane? low quality mp3s. if you're gonna spin dig= ital, go for the wav or flak version of the tracks. it makes a difference o= n the bigger sound systems. please, i'm beggin you all out there!!! no low = quality mp3s on the big bins!!!! peace love and beats- layla --- On Fri, 3/20/09, jimip@berkeleyrecords.com = wrote: From: jimip@berkeleyrecords.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "osby@viberation.com" Cc: "mike guglielmini" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 3:25 PM Blood worms Sent from ? On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, osby@viberation.com wrote: > fuckin' A man.... I haaaaaaaaate tractor DJs!!=A0 Grrr... people call the= mselves DJs who use tractor are fuckin' assholes & idiots!!=A0 LoL.. Hello = 2Day... oh my goodness man... yeah... mondo hardcore lamesauce!! >=20 > Probably not what you were getting at, maybe, I=A0 dunno... but I hate tr= actor DJs!!!! >=20 >=20 > Peace=3D-> > Just Me=3D-> > Osby {8O) >=20 >=20 > Quoting mike guglielmini : >=20 >> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that?=A0 ar= e all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their=A0 sets o= r is there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are=A0 outdated. no one = uses anything but laptops here and it drives me=A0 nuts. what happened to d= js actually having to have some kind of=A0 musical skills to make music? if= its gonna be all laptops and shyt=A0 then im gonna quit. hell i still have= a pair of tech 1200's that are=A0 collecting dust right now. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >=20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A --0-1248127092-1237602588=:86135-- From sfraves-return-150485-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 02:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12229 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 02:40:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 12212 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 02:40:21 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=95FyJT7ya8LTdpAxJA5vE8ZOTJmMKmMWdJIT4ZJyUhY=; b=HO0hXImC8BoSQCvCeYeRKX9joWdUpTOeuPiAypueBXPhbDWEXgKzkfyD/v08V2toS+ b7IAXtwJ0ChXnmSl5k1u3Ru0jE7rnDmSZwTGsUXzrIAgRj8d4Akv61PSNw4SOB0gJiNY N+tyv8TjgYpo4hXBE4OAzKXHcEsixoH6hlgcU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=tSkrI4hDssI9FcLzpnJgkJHCOULd0Vs0xqy8q7lS1TlMjT5BDw4gUMZYL7vUPVKGAs rAyj/6hi/7oSB1uAtz0xttT1jszx31L8Z+Rrfp8d4Zk1YvIvS59hxeLg0id9fVLXKoiA shI1wZdPJrtH+ju8UKKUWMivU3ohlUq3wCMo8= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <765317.86135.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <765317.86135.qm@web31814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:40:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1940932a0903201940p6dcd2150hfdbf44c4a8b3e17@mail.gmail.com> From: D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd14efc90e85b046597f52a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd14efc90e85b046597f52a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am so lost.......... On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Layla Lewis wrote: > this phenomenon is rooted in a couple hard to take realities.... first and > foremost, most of the music these days is not being released on vinyl. it's > almost all entirely digital download. even though using something like final > scratch or tractor preserves some semblance of what most people think when > they see the word "dj" why go the extra step? > > also, at least here in sf, (or perhaps in my families) so many people > incorporate their own music, whether finished tracks or layering components > that ableton live does make more sense. > > there will always be shitty djs and producers. because we're on the leading > edge of new technologies which theoretically make djing and producing > "easier" and the lower cost of digital technology definitely makes it more > financially accessible to every frikkin idiot that wants to be a star there > is perhaps a flood of subpar production and sets these days but in the end > quality will win out. i hope. > > and yes. there is still vinyl. you gotta warn a promoter, otherwise there > won't be needles on > the tables, but vinyl is still loved. and because of the rarity when things > get released on vinyl it's usually really good. > > the thing that drives me insane? low quality mp3s. if you're gonna spin > digital, go for the wav or flak version of the tracks. it makes a difference > on the bigger sound systems. please, i'm beggin you all out there!!! no low > quality mp3s on the big bins!!!! > > peace love and beats- layla > > --- On Fri, 3/20/09, jimip@berkeleyrecords.com > wrote: > > From: jimip@berkeleyrecords.com > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "osby@viberation.com" > Cc: "mike guglielmini" , "sfraves@hyperreal.org" < > sfraves@hyperreal.org> > Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 3:25 PM > > Blood worms > > Sent from ? > On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:40 PM, osby@viberation.com wrote: > > > fuckin' A man.... I haaaaaaaaate tractor DJs!! Grrr... people call > themselves DJs who use tractor are fuckin' assholes & idiots!! LoL.. Hello > 2Day... oh my goodness man... yeah... mondo hardcore lamesauce!! > > > > Probably not what you were getting at, maybe, I dunno... but I hate > tractor DJs!!!! > > > > > > Peace=-> > > Just Me=-> > > Osby {8O) > > > > > > Quoting mike guglielmini : > > > >> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are > all the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is > there still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses > anything but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs > actually having to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its > gonna be all laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair > of tech 1200's that are collecting dust right now. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > --000e0cd14efc90e85b046597f52a-- From sfraves-return-150486-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 02:55:07 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22557 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 02:55:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 22533 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 02:55:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=BrpiKOUkBrE+mo2651B0/tuMPVsW9pzy75Zyb2apRg0=; b=euvJFlgEsFuA8wC74+oiLeeczIrLBYEt9BtIOZ0ePjX3PZkmRK/5IkbqPwsYmVBHSA DmTNCe950QyMPoksLeY3xBAhqWQbDWZ0XnvuupuasmGRYAfKf2kxfNueyoXRtSa2l8xr nvIBjF86r9/oX0JoduV/ywAJV7Dr0ZUFimvKI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=GeEd6N13hezTHKnn3Rwp9btlv3JsbSYV+UImbQGBG/ojfNnavERWRl0Jklw5N9W7ua u4R9i0WiUZKIjEk7kB5eO38tLlVZDZ756d3OKMKUV1HaySknyG024VWOI8rgYTaxqt/G usmL7n+nT+hvGkMvB6nj8nbRqHDS0TC/e1x4Q= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <752AADCE-0F52-4A99-8C86-5CF1E914898C@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: Matt Stone In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:55:25 -0700 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical > skills they > have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's > output > only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us > also > listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think > that is > wrong, just different. You go girl- but respecting a DJ for "technical skills" is IMO the same as respecting someone because of their Guitar Hero abilities. Sure, they've got that little talent down pat, but I'm not going to rip my top off and offer myself to them just because I see it in action. DJs have only 1.5 functions for me- 1) play good music .5) that I haven't heard before Sure, people like Andy and George may describe what they do as DJs and call it creative, but I think they don't see the forest for the trees- and I think that what they do ventures entirely in to the realm of production and they should call it such, using decks or CDJs or whatever as just one of the tools. I make music myself, and historically I mentally modeled the difference between "producer" and "DJ" as "Am I playing someone else's music or am I playing my own?"- but that devolves in to "Am I using inbuilt ROM sounds/samples or my own?"- and then if you want to get all Zen it becomes "I didn't create that Crow that just made a noise that I recorded, God did- am I still legit?" Ultimately such thought is meaningless and stupid and will drive you mad, so ultimately "the DJ" should be thought of just as I said- someone who can play good music and might play something you haven't heard before. -N7 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150487-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 03:25:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38159 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 03:25:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 38141 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 03:25:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237605954; bh=p1hv+DPIBwvowyROfmzaVE/wPa+bAG834+OmPj7nYms=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hhPjS2M2g4Day0y0WyGkWlQ5pOwefZ2cN9p8RasrW9HcSt0rwQMYib/rUYmEfDsFAbZUnLZDbn1gF/7p4XPbCcwyUOjAr6Gds16gabQ9AYxjksawWwfAdK9mNiArrnPAFGXGvM1yIi4aps1vkgFzmjFT1ouZWdvRWc6QWsxmbO8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L3+gCC27bEBGd6dh8K0we14cx54nrDW6K24hTbGoCro5FnbPes59pU555OAOYIFLPD4Ti6JPsKHi6j3alpGdAIbu+ayVcnZPFT/9TFiL/OpThIfvXZDx3z4/bVc8w2rN+oQEp/fFBptkjQWbbedzi69VlLRgha1OF/GJM9HJjcI=; Message-ID: <952803.25717.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: k1yhSPAVM1m8izFZS7LhxteRXvNaNTznjH1bZbXfQBrJEaAZerpd1dBI64pDGMHnN_olidp7kM5LHfD5XSrYQel9Vit5UOD4DNOJIfWAvF1Vs4kzoLQBaWLMe1KutSA29aEStHuIgNxWlAsmuti_zIIcfiQI.ragud7VsN_ZJhy4l.fsIaVzq5Vt06fm3jQFAD44RGwmXCJxY1hH_olH2U68ERA- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20090320185511.GS7941@hsomusic.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:25:54 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Holt Sorenson , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <20090320185511.GS7941@hsomusic.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Just don't smell ET's finger... ----- Original Message ---- From: Holt Sorenson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:55:11 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13:09AM -0700, AndyW wrote: >p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of >vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: >http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg MJ is ET's puppet! It all makes sense now.... -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150488-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 03:27:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39505 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 03:27:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 39481 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 03:27:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R7wlHdkPihdr8guhYCnS2TnGJcKGVlF56uBRzmSPVc4=; b=R6iUWXIHifXVXuMNoePBGiQ+IB/HT/O418l6ICnsLlwqVScSN6ENhETxu/qhHYGcJ/ NxYxGAWzttOD1X1h+3lB9bSov5pWB1fZ9f79KLHEfZLGqcRYhbWc/SC1NrzGeOb3jUsV O9DjwRW09p4k0H4l3txRs9cz9qz87IV8OxKWk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=yFKaWQM/rImQKGjLjY3EjDq13x+8jfLE1e6p0hpnj7yKxg7mzZmS+YNRnOk0GSvSew Et1G2Jk5D+Z8f8MP9LSIZWX4iHMG1hDbUmo8nyQTsjTMl0FgxsHfgzNmTh2CPn5uThnQ oxKIjW6ZiDdkN3GgZYwadk1M2xeBx1XHgYGwA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <952803.25717.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20090320185511.GS7941@hsomusic.com> <952803.25717.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:27:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1940932a0903202027k668f751doa66c3e92819c6017@mail.gmail.com> From: D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd22f288f8c130465989caa X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --000e0cd22f288f8c130465989caa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disc_jockey On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:25 PM, wrote: > > Just don't smell ET's finger... > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Holt Sorenson > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 11:55:11 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:13:09AM -0700, AndyW wrote: > >p.s. And you can have your laptops, and your cds, I miss the beauty of > >vinyl... where else can you get beautiful artwork like this: > >http://saturn5.com/andy/images/mj_vs_et.jpg > > MJ is ET's puppet! It all makes sense now.... > > > -- > Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove > hso@hsomusic.com > hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic > KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd22f288f8c130465989caa-- From sfraves-return-150489-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 03:32:29 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42938 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 03:32:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 42919 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 03:32:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237606369; bh=X04rYesCQSduIJi+4UYm5SdktGIgRurVoK0GkgainY4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r0+I2KAKuWtCKqMh5rXQ8zX8C4FNf6L3EMM1G4yYYGZpbvKal1wiOjNtzGReDNIPTARK+wU90BJ6sZuwlVKPI0YOivP9+9jVn7DKDgUVNPpvZZ5PjV7tpHD4doieerZJxPO+L1wSCU69ee2SZ1i6sRiI8Bh9L9ZEOSzORJ1Bb+I= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VVbqyLLzfrKS+Pv0J16TBK8i2iq1og2yrkV3kQ/6JfaPoagqG2HX2OwGAqmf3egaDFoEJJOYUz5GswT6HGrXfqCLURPXa08w9N2/JfZTcMZ6XB5nywXdNz6LpT/8Hwl3IQ6hnOlTQ3vkEXGHmE/je3NWi9Y3AbMKkEz4izSR+xA=; Message-ID: <33668.31996.qm@web32404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BkCoM5kVM1mIM1zEX18VfPDQFnTHO2tvT4F1wRbVZ.TBiRsgb2MBJND9qb8lMt.WPJJ1Pa_liuMYyKoxLw66mok7msKtN4amy_eCeQUCbsBLXB7zbhME5Yt5nb.bL1zgf8xEjBcSV7_oHEdRLDMSdeaNemrREQs5I.ECIhiLRdF8ogGpuecwb2iJZI6xiYKziF1hZ_p.tZXZU8F1Abc- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <136758.47894.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CB77A7A4E7B68C-B38-119C@MBLK-M09.sysops.aol.com> <752AADCE-0F52-4A99-8C86-5CF1E914898C@nathanseven.com> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 20:32:48 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: Nathan Seven , Matt Stone Cc: littleetoile@aol.com, andy@saturn5.com, djdarkchyld@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <752AADCE-0F52-4A99-8C86-5CF1E914898C@nathanseven.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Interestingly in the radio business the conventional wisdom is that people only want to listen to songs they've heard before, because most people will switch stations if a song they don't know comes on. So the best rated radio DJs often never play anything new at all... Funny I think. Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: Nathan Seven To: Matt Stone Cc: littleetoile@aol.com; andy@saturn5.com; djdarkchyld@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 7:55:25 PM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Mar 20, 2009, at 12:39 PM, Matt Stone wrote: > Part of my enjoyment of a DJ is knowing what kind of technical skills they > have. Sorry, just it. I understand if other people consume a DJ's output > only through the filter of "what does it sound like", but many of us also > listen for transitions, where the dj cuts in, etc. I don't think that is > wrong, just different. You go girl- but respecting a DJ for "technical skills" is IMO the same as respecting someone because of their Guitar Hero abilities. Sure, they've got that little talent down pat, but I'm not going to rip my top off and offer myself to them just because I see it in action. DJs have only 1.5 functions for me- 1) play good music .5) that I haven't heard before Sure, people like Andy and George may describe what they do as DJs and call it creative, but I think they don't see the forest for the trees- and I think that what they do ventures entirely in to the realm of production and they should call it such, using decks or CDJs or whatever as just one of the tools. I make music myself, and historically I mentally modeled the difference between "producer" and "DJ" as "Am I playing someone else's music or am I playing my own?"- but that devolves in to "Am I using inbuilt ROM sounds/samples or my own?"- and then if you want to get all Zen it becomes "I didn't create that Crow that just made a noise that I recorded, God did- am I still legit?" Ultimately such thought is meaningless and stupid and will drive you mad, so ultimately "the DJ" should be thought of just as I said- someone who can play good music and might play something you haven't heard before. -N7 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150490-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 07:48:12 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77277 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 07:48:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 77245 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 07:48:11 -0000 Message-ID: <49C49BCC.6030307@defsf.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:48:28 -0700 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: D CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing D wrote: > What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: > > >> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like >> to tittie twist my self. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: >> >> >>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >>> it >>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>> solution. >>> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >>> for >>> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>> borderline ;) >>> >>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>> beats >>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >>> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >>> at >>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>> >>> Just my $0.02 >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >>>> >>> all >>> >>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >>>> >>> there >>> >>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>> >>> anything >>> >>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>> >>> having >>> >>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>> >>> 1200's >>> >>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> > > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150491-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 08:01:31 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90100 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 08:01:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 90081 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 08:01:30 -0000 Message-ID: <49C49EEE.5060307@defsf.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:01:50 -0700 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> <869022.52226.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks i'm not so sure.. i think it would be better to rep the local people in your area that are making tracks if your are going to be the DJ ambassador thing. so many people making music now its better to get localized and dig up shit that nobody has anywhere else but home. that way if you as a dj put together music from your town somebody in sydney or tokyo is going to shit bricks and try to understand why the SF sound is so hot. then they in turn will make us shit bricks with their stuff. and much terracotta will be rectally emanated world wide. in a sense the computer is still pushing out the boundaries if you can think outside the box a bit. the computer, musically, is sort of shooting holes in conventional thought every day. there are so many tangents and communications going on world wide that things are advancing at an exponential rate. this is a great time for music. get on board or get left behind. i feel it is the people that can think a few steps ahead and the people who have their fingers on the pulse of what could happen that could really make the difference in the overall direction of music. but then again there is that luddite fear.. getting on the bandwagon. i've staved off from buying a laptop for music for so long because things have been building up and phasing out so quickly i felt that as soon as i had enough money to buy the gear it would have been outdated. but i don't think i can afford to wait any longer. sean. dj sinestro wrote: > I think the part I miss the most was being the guy that had stuff on vinyl that no one else had. > I could drop brother from another planet's "Planet Earth" and KNOW no one in my tri state area did not have that record. > > That's virtually impossible now with file sharing. > > Sinestro > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > I like large posteriors and I cannot prevaricate. > www.rehabrecords.net > www.myspace.com/djsinestro > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 09:48:52 -0700 >> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com >> To: dandangsan@gmail.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >> >> >> DJ = data jockey >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: D >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 9:22:27 AM >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >> >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >> >> >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like >>> to tittie twist my self. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: >>> >>> >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >>>> for >>>> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>> >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >>>> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>> >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >>>>> >>>> all >>>> >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >>>>> >>>> there >>>> >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>> >>>> anything >>>> >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>> >>>> having >>>> >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>> >>>> 1200's >>>> >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. > http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MSN55C0701A > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150492-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 08:14:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97911 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 08:14:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 97894 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 08:14:33 -0000 Message-ID: <49C4A1FE.8050108@defsf.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:14:54 -0700 From: sean ocean Organization: DEF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <20090320060727.GO7941@hsomusic.com> In-Reply-To: <20090320060727.GO7941@hsomusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] leech ur teknos applause. i'm also an "index of" search fan. sean. Holt Sorenson wrote: > http://205.127.87.136/~hso/teeth/bki/ > > grabbed from: > http://www.berlin-kreuzberg-institut.com/blog/ > > you know you wants it. > > -- ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150493-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 13:58:14 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24707 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 13:58:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 24688 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 13:58:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 602992.90012.bm@omp105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237643913; bh=/uAfCRmqjTRfsIRQOvWR7Sdw0ppMuCSAcla2dq5KYtQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=N3Lt93wpMmc6rFtEi5boD7k9ms0VPfZ+6Y8zSCdA3RYUsci/t0pfkhLkPMWbio9QB1cYz8xfQpI6DU3pCYyrpBFfuvJgAa6aNo59y6DszLMBATcbup2K0WcpKQmycuNPUOPl0hDXc02D5VPS1OhatlWj7MnGKc06JkSzO86sfyA= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YJIgVj1mQS14SvyRdio7kWjrOi+xoNc6W4WwOIlrgzPppOBfGVMt485SRM3xrYS4BipRTTRebctbCb6I+dkV/aXs6ewrjG8r+o7MUrllOW6cFUKVCBI2sKE/9qvYlbDtlVQBnHUCSmkyMv0eq8LftlH66avByFGdFioWk1xZ9kI=; Message-ID: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HK_n8EkVM1nbqTvc.bu_94wkXWTxoiNrMknb0tYhEt5PCsxNRZZBalZ3OXrz9lFqcD9xO.13zu5j5pXPMBXVHPRuqt6QedFukeKMtYxhMUIxQWwlOFRKAGVOFIbrFpYC4csFRJ8YixUgubgB89I1ONQtC9b1N9oeqCMTcw3Si2HBnwaEbEwXjic7Zyv5hpQ4zlUhHWxSYoMY4GVwLjRaeDDQ8J2RvFGPyXQsfK3Aqvhk1JYf7Ch.pX3pOfb3kw-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 06:58:32 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-718750883-1237643912=:80968" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-718750883-1237643912=:80968 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable mp3j --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: From: sean ocean Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "D" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing D wrote: > What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: > >=A0=A0=A0 >> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I li= ke >> to tittie twist my self. >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone w= rote: >> >>=A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see w= hy >>> it >>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>> solution. >>>=A0 The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatch= ing >>> for >>> you.=A0 Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>> borderline ;) >>> >>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>> beats >>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live= PA >>> with something like Ableton.=A0 If you have more then three tracks play= ing >>> at >>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>> >>> Just my $0.02 >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> wrote: >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>> all >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>> there >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>> anything >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>> having >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>> 1200's >>>=A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0 >>=A0 =A0=A0=A0 > >=A0=A0=A0 --=20 ++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++ Visit: http://www.defsf.com west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events ++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com ++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A --0-718750883-1237643912=:80968-- From sfraves-return-150494-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 14:02:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27659 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 14:02:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 27640 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 14:02:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 898277.38292.bm@omp114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237644141; bh=CK/0VnkQcjrRzImqAGYDNDL8eE4ssvnTmc86y3a8sxg=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GldKy84TnrNw70nn4ufqw59jra1seqQIhcW20kO3Pn8GaaJJUVLHdf7pIvolxyxZVkwyIJ1dkzqqPxx+3ARZc9mUM5tp4XTWuFqGobpHYIqyKcDd+aK2tzMMrL4UE2HiDRqgqB/sKuvERrdsm3pICFyCD0aMV/9cR/B1iJJaPFU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BMBIVaPY2AoImMAuAsyAKn7JQ6+Wet++gIgLxHMtPSie7MrTlH7TpgIcEsZZKlr7rTMvgfbc024XgS/6yor7T9D1XtmWMqbuJLmez/BHAc+GGrcZ0OAA1xGEXUH3AfuDG8CTQ2mFLHrNXblaOlJ8HrKZ75NvofH1RdxPbynAQZ0=; Message-ID: <803753.55707.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5Sipq4wVM1mZtyP8KxxugwlSBSY_NGV2wrcs7V3o6u.kg9n8JHcahB03RlW7McM2CDOl.N3a4E75.RwiSVzzHK13KPvYHiCmbDDUVcUcqH_BN8ilvVf9li83StF6sY1EsivWzLH3RxxJrVd0oGeX69cgfNlx.FeE.u4hZhY2WiWKukNg_gOC18ytUmlMmAEARbjZyvm9k55LNTpDhKvRqkNpGFuOlA-- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1422742630-1237644141=:55707" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] random --0-1422742630-1237644141=:55707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii anyone remember the days when being in the vip section meant you knew the dj? now it just means you have a few thousand bux to blow on absolutely nothing. fyi, im working with a friend of mine whos a cruise director for royal carribean to put together a rave cruise. if anybody has any ideas drop them on me and lets put sumn together. i think a rave cruise would be the absolute shit. --0-1422742630-1237644141=:55707-- From sfraves-return-150495-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 14:21:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43813 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 14:21:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43795 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 14:21:52 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=1xfvrfudZhvOOrnRUGVJkmYcZmQgT0MaQIKX9ze3UIA=; b=gFK96Vofcmg+3ZvWAufp+JakOoaui765Ap+xuAJWsQQL0aySZTd0pfCuZ3RND8NbEF dPUqHA/NmRGe7TonoptUkIOKCOPdIWKysYxL16lgBE5w5ZfHlckwgGpmn4sV7CKth8KA eJEWa1Y8GluFS7INKH0DVLH8lhIN89ik8tIIQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=aikdlvD64xzJayu93K+NCTOLb0AxHevnXmgTBwT/4fLFld59Tt/jmhyTHVCsmrd3Mr MXdgy/LLIiyUu8GASvqfTPbzxZpDI3KDXYWf7b2rWkokI2RvDzxDebx4FfnhmDGOytyx LaQ7UeIYiG09TX6x6DGCnrrZZjPh56jHIxiTc= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <803753.55707.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <803753.55707.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:22:11 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903210722m69930292m8376d6364d4ced53@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016364175915ddd450465a1c21a X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] random --0016364175915ddd450465a1c21a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:02 PM, mike guglielmini wrote: > anyone remember the days when being in the vip section meant you knew the > dj? now it just means you have a few thousand bux to blow on absolutely > nothing. . Try looking at it this way.... A fool and his money should never have gotten together in the first fucking place: http://select.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/business/11norris.html?scp=1&sq=norris%20champagne%20wealth&st=cse I wouldn't set foot in an NYC nite klub if my life depended on it and they were throwing a barely legal eager willing and able 72 virgin females party in my honor. > > > > -- Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --0016364175915ddd450465a1c21a-- From sfraves-return-150496-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 14:26:54 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46910 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 14:26:53 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 46891 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 14:26:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 853030.52779.bm@omp103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237645633; bh=cQB9y1vlx3wOHlaE+wU3SoWlaI9gbSTn1EZzXTprzmc=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YsIB2HMwUQ0MFEPa6Gu1X04tBjwj4iQ2+c6XQ/qIrfRFoMbGF6jHHyhmbowkmhwbLWYxn+EXMkdJU1CGe/IcE8poJAZpUucp6bEK0qLAbDNbiBLcehUWx7okbUw1JIkzxRJXsNaQp0oJltr84Ygk7mDJ+MtnTjwHxkOjfq9lFVo= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K0AvfoJ4w73mot7r9tAJZRo9HwSeBkrnpkiIY9u397tPrSEVRzrbXCiQENhRSD2h1mbYeGWvgVG0vaYOCBGChVgN4sXHZrPOW7ZhRBjC4OhMbjWtYK0DNQUILZoOoHJ10EwSRupX0GyHth/tP7pAdg1LxlGQRPIZJNOmnc/ioXY=; Message-ID: <634309.70878.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: si3FmxYVM1mhgIMWn6tGDi9GCPyx8DS5PjOYS6Kr12eLcqGkUyJlHk4Vd7KacKyhzBrw52HbIldPeu1kvKBOTqwDN_9hMScpR2wnIuaVTHcVI0ruI4mUwe86MBQ4_nNc3vKdvF7k_RnCfV6ZsrGhSIvwDtUWDTCpGn7jIk0_W0fF7IRxk1_YyZoRLrX7tMGq8ZhrwEKck38GqQSgBDIRrgiJ7d3cbD40QhNzn1allntGmSuDVIC_zGyhq1Dbldk9nus- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:27:13 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-214566425-1237645633=:70878" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] random --0-214566425-1237645633=:70878 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii i dunno man.... if they were offering all that...... i think id probly have to go....... other than that tho, i feel you but believe me, miamis nite clubs are way worse. --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Nyc Labrets wrote: From: Nyc Labrets Subject: Re: [sfraves] random To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 10:22 AM On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:02 PM, mike guglielmini wrote: > anyone remember the days when being in the vip section meant you knew the > dj? now it just means you have a few thousand bux to blow on absolutely > nothing. .. Try looking at it this way.... A fool and his money should never have gotten together in the first fucking place: http://select.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/business/11norris.html?scp=1&sq=norris%20champagne%20wealth&st=cse I wouldn't set foot in an NYC nite klub if my life depended on it and they were throwing a barely legal eager willing and able 72 virgin females party in my honor. > > > > -- Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --0-214566425-1237645633=:70878-- From sfraves-return-150497-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 14:31:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49786 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 14:31:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49769 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 14:31:36 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 825218.47185.bm@omp101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237645917; bh=NyPtgTjn7RxxGGAm9K5u66i/8Jo0oKqUWuZuZI2zUn4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B6r7OIh76ITUUSy2usg05ZuiFQCtOuqIcu6fGnww2dbKa8VK3KtxsH+kFCyHQr8Uo9Lj2Yw25YLWNsE+3hwW72ekKNk5RuzyUGCd+EQneQhyw+menwttRttGeejjSIwDzARvdKsmmcKt8Ghxp/jI3z72sd7q/CeXChbr8ZJ1+uI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aqMaEdkIuTrCt7j7We+VxInA6fsmIVI7obmveKDECBMN2M9Bkn94+NudxwAUwurdYiuw90eiwyuKe432sFuG3+IG+qrJwoRrRcgIhWy94g80DrNuTo4uSZTfRfla2BHxQcZUTgUJjMCnzGbZx0UioxQKB+OHTBIXFxm84Mr0OAA=; Message-ID: <381242.62224.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LgAlBBMVM1mpAOHfXWrBlQVPFhMktqZBTC8rqhGMd1eoiBu6NjuygqL_Oh4KOz4VDDvnIfbF8Z_7r0J5IV7kTmaoIu.54LcnDsrEfL44z1n2RlYs9ZP.w3q5dfptfqtwSbH5Zql.aD9zuJ1g8biyPqVgQwz9v1nS90KFGKiPUlG9XtpacfI2YtDIKQuyeGju8AEiEAbZH0pAHPDfIlI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1095239236-1237645917=:62224" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] re: random --0-1095239236-1237645917=:62224 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii 350 dollars for a bottle of liqour at an nyc nightclub huh? thats it!? thats nothing bro. here in miami a bottle of belvedere vodka runs you 600 easy. and thats the small bottle. plus you still have to pay for you mixers. the CHEAPEST bottle would be skyy which goes for 300 a bottle. completely disgusting i know. there are a few clubs here that charge you 1,000 just to get in. --0-1095239236-1237645917=:62224-- From sfraves-return-150498-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 14:40:36 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55301 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 14:40:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 55285 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 14:40:35 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237646455; bh=CSijfQVkf8EXh0p9bBrCfZFWVnA8J1ruUT8hq/R9jx8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ac6B9Y/SdLBkcbR5+/7l58QnKfzB4WAZmbL+mbMWXlHTPBT5SvAcPTbzwgn7mva3b5m/WSPR122y8sIfiGK14HKi+EZzO8CoMRwNRk0Pzx6cQqD8Kwt72Ua7Z1RJvKDORAKACihTqQrLm1MpTmF4sNOyj/hDmk25Dgw59cVe34Y= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PFKjlsbKW3RdPEIMewas7f94t+3t2zx5WjnDApbqaaoyAv4w/ydARnw26SPErhAAnOSyJFC11JisyYv/+bkYokASH0wgoC4hBU87+uZOdj8W70rVI1Z6rud7IGy+/rbYqpasXN+/BOxrj+dxmL6a/blJ5hiTEaGGJUXj+bVUxB4=; Message-ID: <393849.43947.qm@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: UO8frKcVM1lPE0SBynI_miDozAUXVdJ7z0v92p3Q3lWZRp2rcFkvDJHO2cyoxvImoGiVDvDcHlRp5NHickYnlUwv0lCxz.8.7bFTpAJjyetdwNjCSaVtwjkwifmtByQo_2uVB0GCKrj1Gfrrp.dPKLoQCwvTB80LvoivYjFpGJ17ghb999n4iIOoiaQN6Ni6qjVFSzaH7j7lFGBE5zU- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <803753.55707.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 07:40:55 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <803753.55707.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] random I think the radio station Energy 92.7 here put together a gay rave cruise a while back. The problem with rave cruises IMO is people falling overboard which the party hosts could be held liable for. Good luck getting insurance for such an event. There are a few crews that throw boat parties here, not quite a cruise, but you still can fall off and drown, Some might recall the Digipop hosted party a few years back where someone "fell" overboard.... Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:02:21 AM Subject: [sfraves] random anyone remember the days when being in the vip section meant you knew the dj? now it just means you have a few thousand bux to blow on absolutely nothing. fyi, im working with a friend of mine whos a cruise director for royal carribean to put together a rave cruise. if anybody has any ideas drop them on me and lets put sumn together. i think a rave cruise would be the absolute shit. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150499-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 15:08:26 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70575 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 15:08:25 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 70557 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 15:08:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=sxvoqWzMylVxAHdufdMc0rZ0IQbs0DZcO1nZ6O+Ok1g=; b=E2n7cAFPl0RrLIVCZuEjU7jBH6uo+Yi9ZF/IstB5G0NZ79dhSkqsg9pJT6or+PtbuC APGkz1I+0MZnplcngANsTcq9P5zteMleYChdnubryBmcVDEAsco43BmBB5ny0CvBWmh9 LAoEsgtgRjsXAvM9W0VLbiUoF/8eogbfHpd9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=Sg9sYhyGWIeQ+ZwQ4+x+GLJEnoOtpes7FbNhgNZcNduKXRKefXIyJyr11tTB2Vz/2s Ctb6HklsgKIKLSFbMW0EQZHIQcJkuKhuieJTLINT8yK54j2Wp4bHG1zgCXU/WoPTlW4f +kY2bOnruG+BOE7+9hWU+BaklKACifJrlW9u4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <381242.62224.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <381242.62224.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903210808r4badb76co5910403e8127b1b6@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163641688fd5629e0465a268e8 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] re: random --00163641688fd5629e0465a268e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i keep telling people that the level of corruption in Amerika today is much worse than it ever was in Russia under the Soviet Communists and what u are describing is *Exhibit motherfalucking A* of that sad fact. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 3:31 PM, mike guglielmini wrote: > 350 dollars for a bottle of liqour at an nyc nightclub huh? thats it!? > thats nothing bro. here in miami a bottle of belvedere vodka runs you 600 > easy. and thats the small bottle. plus you still have to pay for you mixers. > the CHEAPEST bottle would be skyy which goes for 300 a bottle. completely > disgusting i know. there are a few clubs here that charge you 1,000 just to > get in. > > > -- Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --00163641688fd5629e0465a268e8-- From sfraves-return-150500-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 17:11:53 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37902 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 17:11:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37882 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 17:11:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=t4n+8XTDNOzD8SDtCYDEHjALpbMnlUYUcks4p8Wtfpw=; b=oO08kiG4f5HgwYAXpTTzw9Ltfu1+6vmfhtzWsJg3Z1xy/MCQib3UBkvBJWJD1ZAMAx MVLj4k6Dt1zvAIMIaBZYWeCwpTL9V0xFkjB9KNCQw7cggXT7XHt+87F5rZY4wW7IR4Ha HnI16aR6iUH33m4NREkNnDnX2jiyUSssUDAnc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=XPTpzaBNJo4VS1lCjOhdGzDqyZ8Z6xbNzdJvBhkszmSAqhlpT/VJP26qIhIEXSWI5n ktFS4/eTjQpagzD63bxSU7uOibUlnCDKVhXjbma9CaT9gjokAMUvYoVUV4pd+b8eEdlC W0qDKVqjQerznuAm8QCa00lAPGrY3rLq3raPA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <393849.43947.qm@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <803753.55707.qm@web111108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <393849.43947.qm@web32408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1940932a0903211012g38543382kdb078d7c8681a7e8@mail.gmail.com> From: D To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd2e61c44750a0465a4228e X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] random --000e0cd2e61c44750a0465a4228e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe we can pass out vests out to people. Put like blinking lights on em, so if they fall over board we can see them blinging in the waves. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 7:40 AM, wrote: > > I think the radio station Energy 92.7 here put together a gay rave cruise a > while back. The problem with rave cruises IMO is people falling overboard > which the party hosts could be held liable for. Good luck getting insurance > for such an event. > > There are a few crews that throw boat parties here, not quite a cruise, but > you still can fall off and drown, Some might recall the Digipop hosted party > a few years back where someone "fell" overboard.... > > Peter > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: mike guglielmini > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:02:21 AM > Subject: [sfraves] random > > anyone remember the days when being in the vip section meant you knew the > dj? now it just means you have a few thousand bux to blow on absolutely > nothing. fyi, im working with a friend of mine whos a cruise director for > royal carribean to put together a rave cruise. if anybody has any ideas drop > them on me and lets put sumn together. i think a rave cruise would be the > absolute shit. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > --000e0cd2e61c44750a0465a4228e-- From sfraves-return-150501-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:00:39 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69987 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:00:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69950 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:00:37 -0000 Message-ID: <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:01:04 -0700 From: "John S. Lee" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mike guglielmini CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070804010703050808000107" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --------------070804010703050808000107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and the DJ, real dj'ing. From either an etymological point of view, from a physical point of view or from a practical point of view. I know many new jacks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not replace skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pitch just right, and coming in at the right point. That physical activity , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and put one one. You know something is coming. Now? Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is that the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to rock the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change. Some changes I will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy who would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: > > > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM > > > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing > > D wrote: > >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >> >> >> >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like >>> to tittie twist my self. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >>>> for >>>> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>> >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >>>> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>> >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >>>>> >>>>> >>>> all >>>> >>>> >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >>>>> >>>>> >>>> there >>>> >>>> >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>> >>>>> >>>> anything >>>> >>>> >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>> >>>>> >>>> having >>>> >>>> >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>> >>>>> >>>> 1200's >>>> >>>> >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > --------------070804010703050808000107-- From sfraves-return-150502-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:15:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79183 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:15:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 79164 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:15:05 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 405640.61200.bm@omp107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237659325; bh=ZzeLkvKO0KxMkzjdOGpD7pDT9QTdHQ/vdPTRqUgEQKY=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qfUHXCMYspUaljg4VxBOpOAT4sLl7YyGqEx7e0hBGG2N3qc/JVONGK7kdTJqQru4SsVeHbjZGxGhdfqpJqPUjATQ5N4sgWAXFMFW8+N8JP5UKXwYZgVK5d1RenFbdDnN+eKPSPMvW835bE66ly+hMc6nlYR2jwKktHPTVOvYj/w= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q4eRcRZahEoiS/CMgxLLtKeuo07HztRTqvG2FsCEFM+TFEmPXyO83AtbF0h75v7eGUF4P+jg+wgqYhS6llVaKH/BYwi7zeQ14usiU/YV2+qkW7smKgI9wAjUGYecvObluMOigKcVhjPMYa7KpOlQ5+/Ou9dI8HEdifFRSWNPM4U=; Message-ID: <645572.10465.qm@web111103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ikG7TSgVM1mrHtJNUWxw5lw1N3P.tMNAj3YP5qdlpBuOVmynt.EZsY67AreMbKa0KTrCcs.GK8MGp1agGgVhIABJxXfNXELdv5yU.dTnFih6QozsTdU1BeqiTegeYS8YWE.m2CiVqRCEezYF6XCJz4o1WkzPwA2ItfYuEDsd5zIlp3oSY51JmGxlPjEcXuZ0CazSjaF.Kb2AuMOtv7JhFhbcAPQ68UWNy94sdgs4jWHrB1a.l6v5ye.0T5Rb.D4vPKux X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:15:25 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1630870141-1237659325=:10465" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] random --0-1630870141-1237659325=:10465 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the cruise line has already agreed to let me set it up which im sure means = that it'll be covered under their insurance. and it will definately not be = a gay rave cruise (tho gay people will not be excluded). this is more like = a regular party cruise. and if budweiser can have a cruise that includes fr= ee beer for a whole week then im sure we can do a rave cruise with no probl= em. drunk people are way more likely to "fall" off the boat than people on = designer drugs. thats definately not an obstacle for this thing. i need ide= as on what to add to this thing not ideas on why we cant do it. we can do i= t. its already been worked out as far as that goes. --- On Sat, 3/21/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [sfraves] random To: "mike guglielmini" , sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 10:40 AM I think the radio station Energy 92.7 here put together a gay rave cruise a= while back.=A0 The problem with rave cruises IMO is people falling overboa= rd which the party hosts could be held liable for. Good luck getting insura= nce for such an event. There are a few crews that throw boat parties here, not quite a cruise, but= you still can fall off and drown, Some might recall the Digipop hosted par= ty a few years back where someone "fell" overboard.... Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:02:21 AM Subject: [sfraves] random anyone remember the days when being in the vip section meant you knew the d= j? now it just means you have a few thousand bux to blow on absolutely noth= ing. fyi, im working with a friend of mine whos a cruise director for royal= carribean to put together a rave cruise. if anybody has any ideas drop the= m on me and lets put sumn together. i think a rave cruise would be the abso= lute shit. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org =0A=0A=0A --0-1630870141-1237659325=:10465-- From sfraves-return-150503-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:18:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81525 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 81508 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:17:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 445933.53794.bm@omp101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237659499; bh=vN/X7Xfcjw79lhO/Xg3J5/LEJS9ceZOh0ZL23nDJm+s=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QOlEW46qDHn9zl4nZ+E9b+Y8m7OD81XuGgqFAN9wgqRAnKslrC4ADmL8apNaE4NMa2K0gDJvYJtX8D3xF2BgEEGMXfy4U00NlvR/B3yJt2OzJnN/HjTdIxoABvXM5cIlzlXJnscz/ZS/ur6eI3CUNteI67A8CsZy7WRyUiRgzY0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EWxeIgdDpON+jyakp+S1y6ssA/KAEN6cqg4huQCr6+qDFrBoSGoQzRx4G6inFdlZaZXOutuAlzjkA+t9kpr7rCTScTN0MghafTGxanvPrq9dI4Z8IYp3ET9WaSrQYTXBaBIvOGjumu1/IEHmNct7NSwsWgLGlo89uaAlG3WMrow=; Message-ID: <912985.92509.qm@web111107.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: J1UX3cEVM1kvUEqwNb1c9WwHCDDSogimBN2zWEIBAp1No8EbbBvKCisrEgiGEF64JasHNmWtWmCHV1vhI1mJbKC5NJVwT5Yv3nQXIoZdgZfxlZqqaiVWTkaGCQGw3RvH1dH_E.FlEsM5CbENHw6jtTO22gAMNFExIiedb9_rEW1f5bEpBKbiJeHm_.QB_8AX._w7AOFbZAqUeV_1yTCSccjvw6NXDmUV.LE9Q4LoXT_W0ZxRmzmzrhNpTX2K6K0- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:18:19 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1632734213-1237659499=:92509" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1632734213-1237659499=:92509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i=20 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, John S. Lee wrote: From: John S. Lee Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:01 PM I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and th= e DJ, real dj'ing.=A0 From either an etymological point of view, from a phy= sical point of view or from a practical point of view.=A0 I know many new j= acks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not re= place skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of = records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pi= tch just right, and coming in at the right point.=A0 That physical activity= , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of = anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and pu= t one one.=A0 You know something is coming.=A0 Now?=A0 Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is th= at the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to ro= ck the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock = the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change.=A0 Some changes I= will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy w= ho would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j >=20 > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM >=20 >=20 > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing >=20 > D wrote: >=A0=A0=A0 >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >>=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I l= ike >>> to tittie twist my self. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see = why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>>=A0=A0=A0The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the bea= tmatching >>>> for >>>> you.=A0 Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>>=20 >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex liv= e PA >>>> with something like Ableton.=A0 If you have more then three tracks pla= ying >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>>=20 >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on = in sf with that? are >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> all >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or i= s >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> there >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> anything >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> having >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be al= l >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> 1200's >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >=20 >=A0=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1632734213-1237659499=:92509-- From sfraves-return-150504-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82105 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82054 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 312690.14532.bm@omp104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237659505; bh=b3hXZrppiUpXUkbl+wy/mRZwSG0FsJWgKCXkYb1Cf20=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bkixoCFBZev/Xk1ECY3K0JS4neDSP76ZEV5p/o4xuqqm5gYPUIjGUy6RKSXEatsKaQg+I+Rf8A27TxtYjDpSIrGrv0jwvgboNcRTSNU9densCeYVmK9Bj3WC5EGvMuBzocHcCmpbBcKHEzPu8sPO2bGrDyrsSN6RRKph2vBJfQ8= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H3cfz+VmQvuUkcgl7+CAlCfDt5rz48y415QaLQtbh2hymdQ5MhdIC7bWCVoni203n71s4irQU4VyC6yjF3MzsBPYMUaiSmbX1MdnrWbb6zj1FoMvYlsoGoqQheGaeNatjcxxUpGVcSaj58Sfwz5SSk/c2ZGl/wiXHFgGXyVDsCY=; Message-ID: <828393.51389.qm@web111116.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 74HU_UgVM1mPjOZ5I0pdIJA_57cqhUxBg9zBmXbFtohjSBUGoInn8linjXVqsxb2xAs9ePQ4R413qD7cCHvL8rSYW1axxyVCFl7wfxvjRzXjDugZEBz_KJQlzTDt2iHpvr5b7O376a4mjhQdGGgdOHrBECJNfCMbJHkaaiN4n5lkYBcNmOeZ4xbNqcvw_fSdLtluw7GEgbGkHHUrjEuVu8VfIoUn6QvAfZ80geVeC._SmaXWCY4D.jLidbAzRJI- X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1508708539-1237659505=:51389" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1508708539-1237659505=:51389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i totally hear you on that=20 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, John S. Lee wrote: From: John S. Lee Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:01 PM I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and th= e DJ, real dj'ing.=A0 From either an etymological point of view, from a phy= sical point of view or from a practical point of view.=A0 I know many new j= acks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not re= place skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of = records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pi= tch just right, and coming in at the right point.=A0 That physical activity= , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of = anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and pu= t one one.=A0 You know something is coming.=A0 Now?=A0 Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is th= at the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to ro= ck the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock = the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change.=A0 Some changes I= will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy w= ho would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j >=20 > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM >=20 >=20 > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing >=20 > D wrote: >=A0=A0=A0 >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >>=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I l= ike >>> to tittie twist my self. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see = why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>>=A0=A0=A0The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the bea= tmatching >>>> for >>>> you.=A0 Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>>=20 >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex liv= e PA >>>> with something like Ableton.=A0 If you have more then three tracks pla= ying >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>>=20 >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on = in sf with that? are >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> all >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or i= s >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> there >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> anything >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> having >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be al= l >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> 1200's >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >=20 >=A0=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1508708539-1237659505=:51389-- From sfraves-return-150505-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82156 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82063 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 583665.91312.bm@omp113.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237659507; bh=qTofLVV1g4pIsD3e3BIbDrNPoKTvlEjTNim5k37f2H8=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0lML7dyPEBcnwI+BjAr1UALvkXp/G1RaMMeAKtHEVL8wJh90U0FajVhenWOkgt2H+wg0cF9yZbCk46UZYKT0RhrpKm8vG2lkthPDLbdDzkopp80BXp7/LiaMSDf9mBWOjzZkHW0nWS0Hqks8ezk12BKhfdHeCAyz5oOeL7bLKzY= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pUE0TVXNwFjX9J6vqNHnaba6xDNN8yCU2jH+J010Ct1KFqnQQgLXzi7F5N4lHFsBkYjO98m56RuPs6nictVrhQq9gGaJTVKZIohtoIh3vISRUzNCpa1CvDUR6aJRUBPFk6m6J/lSmtUCgwAbN5HGAuIQvobV9dNEY3o8EP+Fe6o=; Message-ID: <83030.80614.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6NhcuqAVM1mykO6l7w0sPj6l49M35WUCiRwN8wtEvlQLBSj0SEyCQIciwJkK4EqVOflOo8mZxgSlohWXu46AeSG9qb8F1AgbKZnBHQX0fBy0aScDU_dXRmaxmSNJRihuRTKpbAasnFViEIM0FigVmE29cop8xTGApSGyH5ow0cPpK6vJNGnPpk.hmiyLr8iXrTUuYVFyUxyo1pxtlTc1dbS16RuAHftmBW8E.kTZ4YFWS0klRAh2 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1781233363-1237659506=:80614" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1781233363-1237659506=:80614 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i totally hear you on that man. tho i am=20 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, John S. Lee wrote: From: John S. Lee Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:01 PM I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and th= e DJ, real dj'ing.=A0 From either an etymological point of view, from a phy= sical point of view or from a practical point of view.=A0 I know many new j= acks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not re= place skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of = records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pi= tch just right, and coming in at the right point.=A0 That physical activity= , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of = anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and pu= t one one.=A0 You know something is coming.=A0 Now?=A0 Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is th= at the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to ro= ck the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock = the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change.=A0 Some changes I= will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy w= ho would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j >=20 > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM >=20 >=20 > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing >=20 > D wrote: >=A0=A0=A0 >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >>=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I l= ike >>> to tittie twist my self. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see = why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>>=A0=A0=A0The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the bea= tmatching >>>> for >>>> you.=A0 Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>>=20 >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex liv= e PA >>>> with something like Ableton.=A0 If you have more then three tracks pla= ying >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>>=20 >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on = in sf with that? are >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> all >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or i= s >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> there >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> anything >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> having >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be al= l >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> 1200's >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >=20 >=A0=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1781233363-1237659506=:80614-- From sfraves-return-150506-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:18:09 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82186 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82078 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 826748.56920.bm@omp110.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237659505; bh=JKSjyFCKnfo37BW8/+PhPyZLjk4rHgXqmXcifUbm8Ns=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mnEBgghm7H07sv4tLKLBeyU4t5NUxUuExQMc9ett9izZDsryoktuF6N1cYrvtiO0bw2hrvD/RFycs0oLdZfXwUYE6KhsTdX8hWdXi/INk1AqB6vtZFaqn3jVivoY1QhwrZXhy5cVxTSPtQgL5Pl9Qqlxt/6RExlpfrrsGkILQW4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KDk62eqvh0nIdEEAxOk2C/BipcEnt3OVgiTg8xY4gJv48rhUN191Fx+4BxUdHAh3CuARJVsIjQznjYM5xQ2iKXemc6TyDVcu0+f7XWUGO70KctSASa5XHBQAzzRViP+EDbWkHARZx9nJf78ZWiBqcfvony93IRIaB8nXegwyyx4=; Message-ID: <100691.73257.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: xATfPg4VM1mZQI1IN6ypxVYMGrFw2oTi9KEuR5iPj0Xn20bhkooMoqjyqR2.HPYwH_RVLIpd5GGla0SU8uZQRu6buIar.Xp3oYIXgqhXmqYNMtSTnjKYYftYn.eRQP8l4y7tDIa4FQ9X1NL6_jr77XTGzvMIRbN2D5u551TNOyCsDnQk5xa.2uLiQJv1G10YVKRFXtKKmvh3ky8J4795LBtH.kiFh7zftUcWmK5lnTR_blYBbewL X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:18:24 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1825963201-1237659504=:73257" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-1825963201-1237659504=:73257 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i totally hear you on that man.=20 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, John S. Lee wrote: From: John S. Lee Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:01 PM I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and th= e DJ, real dj'ing.=A0 From either an etymological point of view, from a phy= sical point of view or from a practical point of view.=A0 I know many new j= acks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not re= place skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of = records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pi= tch just right, and coming in at the right point.=A0 That physical activity= , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of = anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and pu= t one one.=A0 You know something is coming.=A0 Now?=A0 Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is th= at the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to ro= ck the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock = the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change.=A0 Some changes I= will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy w= ho would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j >=20 > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM >=20 >=20 > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing >=20 > D wrote: >=A0=A0=A0 >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >>=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I l= ike >>> to tittie twist my self. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see = why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>>=A0=A0=A0The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the bea= tmatching >>>> for >>>> you.=A0 Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>>=20 >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex liv= e PA >>>> with something like Ableton.=A0 If you have more then three tracks pla= ying >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>>=20 >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on = in sf with that? are >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> all >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or i= s >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> there >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> anything >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> having >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be al= l >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> 1200's >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >=20 >=A0=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-1825963201-1237659504=:73257-- From sfraves-return-150507-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:18:11 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82206 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:09 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 82055 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:18:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 139469.74909.bm@omp105.mail.gq1.yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237659506; bh=RT7MVPnH/2IDQTBQWAQq/idEKKK4SMhS7sQam4I6J8Q=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=crhedS3fzP/DyvRQWJHSJMRfe07pyETh0/SuiZY7LxNCWXAHeiTFkQkvbQdbOq2xZ2qTjpx/JW3WDwMDA1PYX0xSN47kBQYKlU3LuxWjm2TxL7maYlokA6G0WZRaUPNS380X49K6MTIblBhQXlbGxvKW8rz/yUWKYiwlzCbeIyI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4tMAxHcmU3RbesBBEFpUTuwy6UVLC8pDuDCFYBy7UtB0k0sd4ukZ8x6XrWbLwK1AHiFkYFxTsWP6xCheFc56vXxQ0BxltviFFI2iWikgaMUOPxWCDI3S9NHcU1wnHs/AQgIm1TSwfizkWmDGtjuXbyfUNeNfCZxYv0MZXdqJ970=; Message-ID: <299828.69344.qm@web111114.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6NhcuqAVM1mykO6l7w0sPj6l49M35WUCiRwN8wtEvlQLBSj0SEyCQIciwJkK4EqVOflOo8mZxgSlohWXu46AeSG9qb8F1AgbKZnBHQX0fBy0aScDU_dXRmaxmSNJRihuRTKpbAasnFViEIM0FigVmE29cop8xTGApSGyH5ow0cPpK6vJNGnPpk.hmiyLr8iXrTUuYVFyUxyo1pxtlTc1dbS16RuAHftmBW8E.kTZ4YFWS0klRAh2 X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.1.20 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:18:26 -0700 (PDT) From: mike guglielmini To: sfraves@HYPERREAL.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-238493600-1237659506=:69344" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --0-238493600-1237659506=:69344 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i totally hear you on that man. tho i=20 --- On Sat, 3/21/09, John S. Lee wrote: From: John S. Lee Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks To: "mike guglielmini" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:01 PM I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and th= e DJ, real dj'ing.=A0 From either an etymological point of view, from a phy= sical point of view or from a practical point of view.=A0 I know many new j= acks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not re= place skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of = records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pi= tch just right, and coming in at the right point.=A0 That physical activity= , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of = anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and pu= t one one.=A0 You know something is coming.=A0 Now?=A0 Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is th= at the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to ro= ck the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock = the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change.=A0 Some changes I= will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy w= ho would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j >=20 > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: >=20 >=20 > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM >=20 >=20 > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing >=20 > D wrote: >=A0=A0=A0 >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >>=20 >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >>=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I l= ike >>> to tittie twist my self. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone = wrote: >>>=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see = why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>>=A0=A0=A0The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the bea= tmatching >>>> for >>>> you.=A0 Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>>=20 >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex liv= e PA >>>> with something like Ableton.=A0 If you have more then three tracks pla= ying >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>>=20 >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>=20 >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> wrote: >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on = in sf with that? are >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> all >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or i= s >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> there >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> anything >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> having >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be al= l >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>> 1200's >>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 >=20 >=A0=A0=A0 =0A=0A=0A --0-238493600-1237659506=:69344-- From sfraves-return-150508-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:32:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94151 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:32:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 94115 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:32:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1237660380; bh=8edIzMGi8WzubG1S8A7flL7a+Fbi+v+vCNJOJ/sU4pk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=APeA1yFlkPs5lJ6ftuIbKcRDYDsAmAvkYEaoTm8kVqW7P6E90FO67OA6FQbcS31l//AWomiXvlg4Ru1cqyvlPmOvxGfH3IXR0ycKX0bJA3CJBeh8vCFlgLizmTew8//o7Lhs0IfXn2xfwU9UkNdv++7kM865r3U2Vh07fVvFE80= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1oeykf/9mx0CVSEOfPq2DEvMWv1Nt9DEiXdVw10UpwBk9clRG7yh2SrCh2YSPsJdemw1C9QwdZFziYDX4am8q9qHpJYxlgjcXAc43kHlxT8C7+OMyIMGBYnJknSKIoM5QkfNsWpO4SI0pajFhTqTGwOXLOiYtnHRtCge3ff2I+I=; Message-ID: <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: C31AnfcVM1lmmuCZl.SQNHcI4J7PjeBlRc.Sfx6f5hj8iQd9qccAHZVvBlHU1CJ.NjRuOJ6sKn7j3uHVWT.aMLWlmtHppNlGFMewy9I7duhMcrdb4Eof5ffL.PrdlWYglyHj0qMKXDUcv9Hz144T0DEb1mdOfoq3YGWNetS.ID2yS7pumYdNrnqcGDG0LSJV67PeI0t6iRg4pg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:32:59 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: "John S. Lee" , mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Some good points here about DJing as a physical act. But I think with some thought this can be added back into the experience even if the source media is digital. And then again there have always been fakers... I remember seeing Oakenfold at Ultra in 2001 on the main stage and he was totally faking it as he was obviously spilling champagne on the record he was supposedly playing with no effect on the mix. It was likely just a prerecorded DAT he was playing back in those days and he pulled shit out of his crate to make it look like he was mixing. Sort of the DJ equivalent of lip sync-ing... Peter ----- Original Message ---- From: John S. Lee To: mike guglielmini Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:01:04 AM Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks I'm with you Mike on the wording. It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and the DJ, real dj'ing. From either an etymological point of view, from a physical point of view or from a practical point of view. I know many new jacks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not replace skill, to some degree. But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pitch just right, and coming in at the right point. That physical activity , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and put one one. You know something is coming. Now? Not so much. I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is that the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to rock the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock the vinyl with skills and results. Times do change however and they will continue to change. Some changes I will like, others I will abhor, such is life. While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy who would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. Ymmv. -John mike guglielmini wrote: > mp3j > > --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: > > > From: sean ocean > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > To: "D" > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM > > > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing > > D wrote: > >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >> >> >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like >>> to tittie twist my self. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: >>> >>> >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >>>> for >>>> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>> >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >>>> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>> >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >>>>> >>>> all >>>> >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >>>>> >>>> there >>>> >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>> >>>> anything >>>> >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>> >>>> having >>>> >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>> >>>> 1200's >>>> >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150509-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 18:43:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1785 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 18:43:07 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 1767 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 18:43:07 -0000 Message-ID: <49C5354C.2000800@dreamstream.org> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:43:24 -0700 From: dreamdust User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.dreamstream.org X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hyperreal.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - dreamstream.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Part of the problem is seeing a DJ has become the primary reason to go to an event for many people. This is when DJ's become icons, and then we make it impossible for them to live up to it. DJ's were better back when people went to parties to party and to make friends, while dancing to hypnotic tunes. Dance music gave way to cool music. Many people have forgotten that there is a difference in playing music to dance to progressively, versus playing music that sounds awesome when driving your car blasting the ipod. I totally agree with the ADD DJ phenomenon. I miss 3 hour sets, I miss progressively working with the dancers. Now you see parties with HHC back-to-back with fucking trance, and buildup/breakdowns every 30 seconds. How can I dance to that? The DJ's are better when they work with the party, instead of being some icon that represents the party itself. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150510-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 19:09:33 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29178 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 19:09:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 29159 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 19:09:32 -0000 Cc: "John S. Lee" , mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-Id: <926A1D18-3996-42F0-A301-DBB81573DAE7@heroicrobot.com> From: Jas Strong To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:09:50 -0700 References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On 21 Mar 2009, at 11:32, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > > I remember seeing Oakenfold at Ultra in 2001 on the main stage and > he was totally faking it as he was obviously spilling champagne on > the record he was supposedly playing with no effect on the mix. It > was likely just a prerecorded DAT he was playing back in those days > and he pulled shit out of his crate to make it look like he was > mixing. Sort of the DJ equivalent of lip sync-ing... That's interesting because I saw a video of him playing recently and he trainwrecked miserably like 19 times in one set. -J., who has always hated oakenfold, tiesto, and any others of those "huge" djs who are just ego monsters (hi, btw) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150511-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 19:17:34 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35866 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 19:17:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 35850 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 19:17:33 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:17:51 +0000 From: Holt Sorenson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20090321191751.GV7941@hsomusic.com> References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <926A1D18-3996-42F0-A301-DBB81573DAE7@heroicrobot.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <926A1D18-3996-42F0-A301-DBB81573DAE7@heroicrobot.com> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:09:50PM -0700, Jas Strong wrote: >> I remember seeing Oakenfold at Ultra in 2001 on the main stage and he >> was totally faking it as he was obviously spilling champagne on the >> record he was supposedly playing with no effect on the mix. It was >> likely just a prerecorded DAT he was playing back in those days and he >> pulled shit out of his crate to make it look like he was mixing. Sort >> of the DJ equivalent of lip sync-ing... > > > That's interesting because I saw a video of him playing recently and he > trainwrecked miserably like 19 times in one set. Yep, this is known/expected behavior with joakenfold. He repeatedly fucked his set when he opened for Underworld when they were here last. -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150512-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 19:19:41 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37337 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 19:19:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 37320 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 19:19:40 -0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7-deb (2006-10-05) on bit.tuplemovers.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable version=3.1.7-deb Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:19:59 +0000 From: Holt Sorenson To: sfraves@hyperreal.org Message-ID: <20090321191959.GW7941@hsomusic.com> References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49C5354C.2000800@dreamstream.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49C5354C.2000800@dreamstream.org> X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 11:43:24AM -0700, dreamdust wrote: > I totally agree with the ADD DJ phenomenon. I miss 3 hour sets, I miss > progressively working with the dancers. Now you see parties with HHC BSP: There are three hour sets at: http://hsomusic.com/mixes/ Of course, I think they don't suck. Hah. -- Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove hso@hsomusic.com hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Mon @ 9AM-12PM US/Pacific --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150513-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 19:30:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44251 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 19:30:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44234 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 19:30:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=Mh8rVdjhjiDJQF5dqS28qq0WTUfjBOfcBthrEFVch4w=; b=PT24GDJx0ny+sFO7FCPunroAqBnV/+ZBU15l+b+/T0YzNONRaaSImiR77pk73E3wjG U1nNwlycTDuAywXDwO70SjZAXscagurZYCeQ8u9Lt2w6NfEF9HLYNZj18Lxr8g4VXAEV gQJ8+O3zFoMVPz7q3HD6lP0PlYeGxQ9+qd9vA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=OmzHpZ8u8L5W20MF5UhQjzvminlMdLyKDWchQofHAiXLD7rVJMU/52hw5UewUQDx89 FmPeMPb7rK/BhtgaNv0sVpGDFwvkKJjp5PhfPRDN6/IsmMhc6eNqDO8Sg8RyJNvTql6o iW6UbU+Vq13QJQqADp+cRitBRIedFyqNzYoJM= MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:30:24 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903211230j4f00cb6ewd2a67f601ef0a42c@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e659fa569bc62d0465a610b6 X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] Today's FAIL of the Day --0016e659fa569bc62d0465a610b6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Proof that even though I am Athiest, God and the Universe is totally beaming down on me now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5qlYo_q20 It's all about the timing. -- Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --0016e659fa569bc62d0465a610b6-- From sfraves-return-150514-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 19:38:13 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49253 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 19:38:13 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 49236 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 19:38:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=SS3gwBEYZqWeunGzsZXy9y4WOiZKbwady8nxe3u9mTQ=; b=s1odbQLrZDR/qQXQif7srZpg7Hp7ythlS0KR0AtMzpGyQ7mIK9oY5Cb5RZHwrQgEYj EbaYZzyahr59wMVqve/ZnNsBmaYdtIo1YHLUoLeCsSlDd9NJDNIOYjMdDFAZuz+CZ2Fu YzMQ5tjq6Yv6YNr6mGgTtaGXxHhV2tzZMOB00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=eu0sY/VgSTQ9EaG/8Q5uS7WiUHmZbQYVOdQSyZO5Ghc2O10iPHzHe2Ycwu+pkXDwe7 uUsfiu/wY4PqjWMZ7y16V/WdHeYpRoRWwKUMpk8bmu83QAIYKGxakJ5SBp88AwwiCjmv yKPkOuo6ERnuEFS1N8xpuXFwboQT5/BYUzFM4= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Message-Id: From: Nathan Seven To: Nyc Labrets In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f0903211230j4f00cb6ewd2a67f601ef0a42c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:38:31 -0700 References: <7237bf9f0903211230j4f00cb6ewd2a67f601ef0a42c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Today's FAIL of the Day Please relate to me the exact process needed to reach the mental state where seeing a broken-down car makes you think you're Jesus- I'd really love to go there. "Honey I've got a fail" ... I really have no words. -N7 On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Nyc Labrets wrote: > Proof that even though I am Athiest, God and the Universe is totally > beaming > down on me now: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5qlYo_q20 > > It's all about the timing. > > > -- > Nyc Labrets > > A Pen Warmed In Hell > http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ > > Rome With Television > http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ > > "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have > laptops, cell > phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with > books." > Harper Lee, 2006 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150515-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 19:44:04 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52813 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 19:44:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 52795 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 19:44:03 -0000 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:44:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "J.C." To: sfraves@hyperreal.org In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f0903210808r4badb76co5910403e8127b1b6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20090321124343.Y19771@kzsu.stanford.edu> References: <381242.62224.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <7237bf9f0903210808r4badb76co5910403e8127b1b6@mail.gmail.com> X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 171.66.118.47 X-Greylist: Sender DNS name whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (kzsu.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:44:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] re: random On 21 March 2009, Nyc Labrets wrote: > i keep telling people that the level of corruption in Amerika today is much > worse than it ever was in Russia under the Soviet Communists and what u are > describing is *Exhibit motherfalucking A* of that sad fact. I would have to agree. But the system in this country is somehow better because it has the label Capitalism. ;) -- San Francisco Bay Guardian's Readers Choice Award Winner: Best Radio DJ: http://www.sfbg.com/promo/pollpositions.php AIM: jckzsu (or kzsudj during my show.) "Opinions are my own only, and do not necessarily represent those of KZSU Radio or Stanford University." (or words to that effect.) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150516-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 20:09:06 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69026 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 20:09:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 69008 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 20:09:05 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EG3A5VqM3KlfQoI4JA2CJUutC7TJ39eH0DDbn7wtafE=; b=fOTvUY2EZSyClQ4M2dm+vc3GmUNzFsVCRc0L8mnaqFIiiaxIiJ/I+uTNBRfH60Mwos rDOiAnXcJ9KYNTQ6YBzCceFyfzIQdCsaBkv6biWK6gY82MbzmzgQNPq69/MG8+5P33xD BnVGhdo8tFMU4BQRGw/bSS8hLd1OPp+Z6Z37s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=jvEWj6/4b9SGV6Qv1wWTgsGTpWNH3Ub5TcP150PS/n6CCSVfHuHSJkeV4jbzFne1w4 WpSpKkLftqNEQh9krR/rqMuJd6DN8FY/s4wcNQs70NUqxhV2642JB2HukSVw/MBNwEBs hYav9IcW6SDtrtAw2I7g6xw3aCcXT9ey2iSK4= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: References: <7237bf9f0903211230j4f00cb6ewd2a67f601ef0a42c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 21:09:24 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903211309h6ab667bdld64c496725fc856@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: Nathan Seven Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016369cff731d5b980465a69c5b X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Today's FAIL of the Day --0016369cff731d5b980465a69c5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit C'mon Natey, my matey, lighten up take 2 of these *http://tinyurl.com/8dk8fx * and call me in the morning. Oh, I forgot, you're such a WATB you're incapable of having a sense of humor, for one. And for 2, I don't think an easy going, happy go lucky guy such as myself is going to take anything a mean spirited sum-bitch, George Busch boot licking, Sarah Palin adoring, young, brown shirt conservative like you has to say about public civility seriously. Except maybe to laugh at a simple backwards clown like you. Correct if I'm wrong, but there are a lot of really nice people that used to be on this list because of nasty ass fuck heads, such as yourself, (who think of themselves as PLURtastic ravers), these very got fed up with your shit and left because they didn't want to get anywhere near your human toxicity. You're Radioactive Man in human skin. Do you blame them? You drove these ppl off in droves. Thanks a BUNCH Go back and read some of your old posts, i have, there are some real gems in their, that I'm going to spare ppl here from having to read again because I don't like to fling your poo back at you. I'm not a monkey, so I don't do that sort of thing like you do. Traffic on this list has dropped like a brick and I hang that shit squarely on your shoulders. Have a GREAT Day, and say hi to Dave 4 me. That'd be GRATE, and thanks for polluting my scene the way you have these last several years. It's people like you that made me GLAD that I moved away to Germany where people still practise basic human decency, and it's ppl like you that will make sure that I will NEVER return to the SLUM of country the people you support politically have turned it into to. You live in a GHETTO and the sad thing is you think it's Atherton or Woodside. i PITY you. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Seven wrote: > Please relate to me the exact process needed to reach the mental state > where seeing a broken-down car makes you think you're Jesus- I'd really love > to go there. > > "Honey I've got a fail" > ... > I really have no words. > > -N7 > > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Nyc Labrets wrote: > > Proof that even though I am Athiest, God and the Universe is totally >> beaming >> down on me now: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5qlYo_q20 >> >> It's all about the timing. >> >> >> -- >> Nyc Labrets >> >> A Pen Warmed In Hell >> http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ >> >> Rome With Television >> http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ >> >> "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, >> cell >> phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." >> Harper Lee, 2006 >> > > -- Nyc Labrets A Pen Warmed In Hell http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ Rome With Television http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books." Harper Lee, 2006 --0016369cff731d5b980465a69c5b-- From sfraves-return-150517-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 21:44:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33265 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 21:44:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 33248 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 21:44:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=Kjh5oVJCATkHZjPuOv8Orm30+JQ42chTdZVx9hbibN8=; b=QHTOVx20rrcxq3NlSHab4F8MrHuK6IVYcR3MmnZEZCXtRjWAHQUc6dUAWCZFZQXmzp 1f0DAbByNCvMF/NfqCE8qu7YsbrTz885Ej/uQ/OacqOCSbaAcjnRpXf9nDJnUEb0IJQG zCD6REwjpbGkiFSlTbeBJ/cwdWBM/ylB4DEpI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=PmgmTTh5n5LSigMVUuyTmcWfsiE7y3BPRGQUzdtp9qamMJkGiqA0ToNpAcGilyDzd+ dCTFI9Sd5E83s8AaeC4ldjNbBB5PPz5Z8JlZpYQ0VmWB/ZBZnJDXiqlYtUuq1Pjoh3pI tCSQJ00QmKhK3A2SE0RACalsvsxZ7X/2Mkk80= Sender: Scott Solmonson Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Message-Id: <7BFA8F3E-CAAD-4734-A33E-D52512790A36@nathanseven.com> From: Nathan Seven To: Nyc Labrets In-Reply-To: <7237bf9f0903211309h6ab667bdld64c496725fc856@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v930.3) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:45:07 -0700 References: <7237bf9f0903211230j4f00cb6ewd2a67f601ef0a42c@mail.gmail.com> <7237bf9f0903211309h6ab667bdld64c496725fc856@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3) X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Today's FAIL of the Day You've misunderstood me- I really do want to know how to get to the state where the witnessing of a car breaking down gives me the feeling of "God and the Universe is totally beaming down on me now"- I'm not a happy man and if I was capable of such things it would be like I was almost blissfully retarded! If you've figured that out you're a very special man and you owe it to humanity to share this wealth, and I want to know your secret! -N7 On Mar 21, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Nyc Labrets wrote: > C'mon Natey, my matey, lighten up take 2 of these *http://tinyurl.com/8dk8fx > * and call me in the morning. > > Oh, I forgot, you're such a WATB you're incapable of having a sense of > humor, for one. > > And for 2, I don't think an easy going, happy go lucky guy such as > myself is > going to take anything a mean spirited sum-bitch, George Busch boot > licking, > Sarah Palin adoring, young, brown shirt conservative like you has to > say > about public civility seriously. > > Except maybe to laugh at a simple backwards clown like you. > > Correct if I'm wrong, but there are a lot of really nice people that > used to > be on this list because of nasty ass fuck heads, such as yourself, > (who > think of themselves as PLURtastic ravers), these very got fed up > with your > shit and left because they didn't want to get anywhere near your human > toxicity. You're Radioactive Man in human skin. > > Do you blame them? > > You drove these ppl off in droves. > > Thanks a BUNCH > > Go back and read some of your old posts, i have, there are some real > gems in > their, that I'm going to spare ppl here from having to read again > because I > don't like to fling your poo back at you. > > I'm not a monkey, so I don't do that sort of thing like you do. > > Traffic on this list has dropped like a brick and I hang that shit > squarely > on your shoulders. > > Have a GREAT Day, and say hi to Dave 4 me. > > That'd be GRATE, and thanks for polluting my scene the way you have > these > last several years. > > It's people like you that made me GLAD that I moved away to Germany > where > people still practise basic human decency, and it's ppl like you > that will > make sure that I will NEVER return to the SLUM of country the people > you > support politically have turned it into to. > > You live in a GHETTO and the sad thing is you think it's Atherton or > Woodside. > > i PITY you. > > > > On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Seven > wrote: > >> Please relate to me the exact process needed to reach the mental >> state >> where seeing a broken-down car makes you think you're Jesus- I'd >> really love >> to go there. >> >> "Honey I've got a fail" >> ... >> I really have no words. >> >> -N7 >> >> >> >> On Mar 21, 2009, at 12:30 PM, Nyc Labrets wrote: >> >> Proof that even though I am Athiest, God and the Universe is totally >>> beaming >>> down on me now: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nt5qlYo_q20 >>> >>> It's all about the timing. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nyc Labrets >>> >>> A Pen Warmed In Hell >>> http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> Rome With Television >>> http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have >>> laptops, >>> cell >>> phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with >>> books." >>> Harper Lee, 2006 >>> >> >> > > > -- > Nyc Labrets > > A Pen Warmed In Hell > http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/ > > Rome With Television > http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/ > > "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have > laptops, cell > phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with > books." > Harper Lee, 2006 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150518-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 22:01:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43898 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 22:01:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 43880 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 22:01:45 -0000 Message-ID: <49C563E5.8000506@twenty-hz.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:02:13 -0700 From: "John S. Lee" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com CC: mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030601060108060609050002" X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks --------------030601060108060609050002 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > Some good points here about DJing as a physical act. But I think with some thought this can be added back into the experience even if the source media is digital. > Ok, I hear you on that for real. I think Serrano is a good compromise as I do think digital does have it's virtues. But I also think something and a connection is lost. An opportunity to communicate. Because the physicality of the DJ is as much a part of the show as the music. Little things matter, IMO. > And then again there have always been fakers... > LOL! > I remember seeing Oakenfold at Ultra in 2001 on the main stage and he was totally faking it as he was obviously spilling champagne on the record he was supposedly playing with no effect on the mix. It was likely just a prerecorded DAT he was playing back in those days and he pulled shit out of his crate to make it look like he was mixing. Sort of the DJ equivalent of lip sync-ing... > We reach! Another issue with digital, it CAN be faked. You ain't faking with no vinyl ladies and gents. Either you come off or step off. But I do think that with the caliber of talent out there, people are playing great mp3j sets. Good music, although it lacks sonically to me, and people do dance, which is good. No they ain't losing thier heads, thier dancing and dancing is the point. I can see that side of it too. My prejudice is toward 1200's. That is unlikely to change anytime soon. At least vinyl sales are starting to pick-up, but it might just be the last few horses before the glue factory shuts down. > Peter > Peace PEter, good points, John > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: John S. Lee > To: mike guglielmini > Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org > Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 11:01:04 AM > Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks > > I'm with you Mike on the wording. > > It is a serious stretch to call what is happening now with computers and the DJ, real dj'ing. From either an etymological point of view, from a physical point of view or from a practical point of view. I know many new jacks love this technology, and the argument can be made that it does not replace skill, to some degree. > > But there is skill in being in a dark club, digging through heavy crate of records, trying to read a label, slapping it down on a deck, getting the pitch just right, and coming in at the right point. That physical activity , I think, is what the crowd unconsciously grooves to, because the act of anticipation is actually seen as you witness a DJ take a platter off and put one one. You know something is coming. Now? Not so much. > > I've been out to plenty of mp3j clubs at this point and all I can say is that the energy and the levels need Viagra. I know many here will claim to rock the house, yeah yeah yeah, but I am not convinced until I see them rock the vinyl with skills and results. > > Times do change however and they will continue to change. Some changes I will like, others I will abhor, such is life. > > While I understand the physical problems with vinyl, I am the kind of guy who would never buy a kindle over a real bonafide book. > > Ymmv. > > -John > > mike guglielmini wrote: > >> mp3j >> >> --- On Sat, 3/21/09, sean ocean wrote: >> >> >> From: sean ocean >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks >> To: "D" >> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org >> Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 3:48 AM >> >> >> yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing >> >> D wrote: >> >> >>> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. I like >>>> to tittie twist my self. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't see why >>>>> it >>>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>>> solution. >>>>> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the beatmatching >>>>> for >>>>> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>>> borderline ;) >>>>> >>>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>>> beats >>>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex live PA >>>>> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks playing >>>>> at >>>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>>> >>>>> Just my $0.02 >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf with that? are >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> all >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets or is >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> there >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> anything >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> having >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be all >>>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> 1200's >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > --------------030601060108060609050002-- From sfraves-return-150519-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 22:02:27 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44557 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 22:02:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 44541 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 22:02:27 -0000 Message-ID: <49C56402.8090103@twenty-hz.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:02:42 -0700 From: "John S. Lee" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dreamdust CC: sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <49C5354C.2000800@dreamstream.org> In-Reply-To: <49C5354C.2000800@dreamstream.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Word! dreamdust wrote: > Part of the problem is seeing a DJ has become the primary reason to go > to an event for many people. This is when DJ's become icons, and then > we make it impossible for them to live up to it. > > DJ's were better back when people went to parties to party and to make > friends, while dancing to hypnotic tunes. Dance music gave way to cool > music. Many people have forgotten that there is a difference in > playing music to dance to progressively, versus playing music that > sounds awesome when driving your car blasting the ipod. > > I totally agree with the ADD DJ phenomenon. I miss 3 hour sets, I miss > progressively working with the dancers. Now you see parties with HHC > back-to-back with fucking trance, and buildup/breakdowns every 30 > seconds. How can I dance to that? > > The DJ's are better when they work with the party, instead of being > some icon that represents the party itself. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150520-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 22:05:05 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45908 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 22:05:05 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 45891 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 22:05:05 -0000 Message-ID: <49C564AD.8080800@twenty-hz.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:05:33 -0700 From: "John S. Lee" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jas Strong CC: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, mike guglielmini , sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <799764.80968.qm@web111104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <49C52B60.7010306@twenty-hz.com> <80964.22120.qm@web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <926A1D18-3996-42F0-A301-DBB81573DAE7@heroicrobot.com> In-Reply-To: <926A1D18-3996-42F0-A301-DBB81573DAE7@heroicrobot.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks ROTFLMAO, If you trainwreck a digital set, you surely suck ass. LOL! -John Jas Strong wrote: > > On 21 Mar 2009, at 11:32, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote: > >> >> I remember seeing Oakenfold at Ultra in 2001 on the main stage and he >> was totally faking it as he was obviously spilling champagne on the >> record he was supposedly playing with no effect on the mix. It was >> likely just a prerecorded DAT he was playing back in those days and >> he pulled shit out of his crate to make it look like he was mixing. >> Sort of the DJ equivalent of lip sync-ing... > > > That's interesting because I saw a video of him playing recently and > he trainwrecked miserably like 19 times in one set. > > -J., > who has always hated oakenfold, > tiesto, > and any others of those "huge" djs who are just ego monsters > > (hi, btw) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150521-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 22:22:55 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56731 invoked by uid 1103); 21 Mar 2009 22:22:54 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 56703 invoked from network); 21 Mar 2009 22:22:54 -0000 Message-ID: <49C568DA.6000005@twenty-hz.com> Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 15:23:22 -0700 From: "John S. Lee" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Macintosh/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sean ocean CC: D , sfraves@hyperreal.org References: <981337.8492.qm@web111101.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <1940932a0903200920x2526e838t2332d6f0adafe787@mail.gmail.com> <1940932a0903200922u7097d6e0naf900eb809ed1590@mail.gmail.com> <49C49BCC.6030307@defsf.com> In-Reply-To: <49C49BCC.6030307@defsf.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] laptops replacing decks Yeah, but you're not titty-twisting. You're not "working" it physically. There is a lack of force and momentum and push to the music that comes from those tiny physical efforts - which ave energy by the way. A hard disk spinning at a constant rate is not analog - nothing is constant in those great sets. You have physical energy converted to an analog wave and sent through massive analog speakers. That is some pure shit, no quant. A bottom that lasts forever, low-end feedback, and all kinds of cool stuff you can really only get with vinyl and a set of turntables. That is a Digital Disc Jockey and that is the best I can do, a DDJ. I mean if you're embracing the technology, might as well call it what it is, and peeps should take no offense. When Jazz mutated they called it fusion, etc. Why not just rock your 0's and 1's flag and get your groove on. But that is not DJing in the classic sense of the word. There was no DJ before there we records. Records therefore define a DJ, since the "D" stands for disk. But you're still not jocking discs, you're jocking mp3's or AIFF or whatever - they ain't disks, so saying your have a disc involved is a stretch, especially since you can now use iPods etc to mix and come up with sets. You are no longer bound to a disc, but you are playing mp3's. MP3J is probably the most appropriate for those with pride in this craft. If I was "spinning" 100% digital, this is what I would call myself for sure. Sheeit my turntables are in the corner gathering some dust. My old Rane is in the garage, needs a repair, and I download most of my music at this point. Very rarely I gone out and supported the vinyl movement in the last oh 4 years? So I'm not fronting. I am a victim of the seduction of digital, which is strong. My studio is 100% digital up to the analog ins/outs. My Mac is the center of my music universe. So I feel it. But I'll get the 1200's going for the kiddies. I got like 2000 records and stuff to share, so it wont be long. Then they'll want the latest shit. If they need the old school crap they'll borrow it from dad. Gotta love living, John sean ocean wrote: > yr still hard disc jockeying so in a sense its still djing > > D wrote: >> What would yall call a dj that doesnt use disks? An Lj? Fj? JJ? >> >> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:20 AM, D wrote: >> >> >>> Djing now happens at the click of a mouse or the press of a button. >>> I like >>> to tittie twist my self. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:17 AM, Matt Stone >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> First, when did DJs ever have musical skills? >>>> Ok seriously tho, if you are still doing the beatmatching I don't >>>> see why >>>> it >>>> matters if you do it on plain vinyl, cd decks, or a digital vinyl >>>> solution. >>>> The only time I call foul is if you use software to do the >>>> beatmatching >>>> for >>>> you. Also, beatmatching with the bpm detect function on new gear is >>>> borderline ;) >>>> >>>> However, there is one case where I think having software align all the >>>> beats >>>> for you is okay, and that is if you are doing a reasonably complex >>>> live PA >>>> with something like Ableton. If you have more then three tracks >>>> playing >>>> at >>>> once, I personally think its acceptable to have software help. >>>> >>>> Just my $0.02 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 8:36 AM, mike guglielmini >>>> >>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> maybe im just over the hill now but whats goin on in sf >>>>> with that? are >>>>> >>>> all >>>> >>>>> the djs over there using laptops and mp3 mixers to do their sets >>>>> or is >>>>> >>>> there >>>> >>>>> still vinyl? over here even my cd decks are outdated. no one uses >>>>> >>>> anything >>>> >>>>> but laptops here and it drives me nuts. what happened to djs actually >>>>> >>>> having >>>> >>>>> to have some kind of musical skills to make music? if its gonna be >>>>> all >>>>> laptops and shyt then im gonna quit. hell i still have a pair of tech >>>>> >>>> 1200's >>>> >>>>> that are collecting dust right now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150522-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sat Mar 21 23:44:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 99615 invoked by uid 1103); 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Message-ID: <370558.13191.qm@web32407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: f8nLS1QVM1mCsJy1kuN6rqCuChdmAmkxXOtpikU3.SrQOz_k29v.WpZihBVeB_CxC_rQDq9SCQaL1e5NDWtffLp2pfzonn_vCgPzzqdZzPmPiEHzlTZJziTe6eSN3VxqorsnehZPaOkyWQHurRLCdU4npUZC2Q4gI0yOMTV.wUDHXGkSTyO50.GVJJq2r1D21sG73e4XSCHN.7AUeJYx6th4mKMjfluYjg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1277.32 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 16:44:27 -0700 (PDT) From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: [sfraves] nrr: DJ becomes Africa's Youngest President http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/21/madagascar --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: sfraves-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: sfraves-help@hyperreal.org From sfraves-return-150523-sfraves-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Sun Mar 22 01:45:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: sfraves-archive@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53849 invoked by uid 1103); 22 Mar 2009 01:45:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact sfraves-help@hyperreal.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk X-No-Archive: yes list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Delivered-To: mailing list sfraves@hyperreal.org Received: (qmail 53822 invoked from network); 22 Mar 2009 01:45:33 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=i/EBlSFEDPfUUtuYQD5UOAdTJkRhCh0JHaGhw9uWrAs=; b=Tb1Qi89KTco4y+AI8JOeexqszb8O2LDgA4EYBqNWK7lmfhJH0F7ouR8Rt02bJje5Q+ pAM4yClp0lnPPCHXYjxSrpnbUES56aHHvvS/eqCbwiA7RSK8cyoXRAOoHYSaEGreC2gw S1DIvfNj8m0UyCu07fWzeiDbPoTWSgHfisTBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=KBNHX4pEwjQOS/woqGEHZ3DO3a6PNVF6JYNcxmr95AoLBJ0zV2UR0hJoOqE9ZC+zLw 32tEH9u64kAtWsiLe/VKJ28So6qwGddEps3oQ/sxJZnEg/Raph296UQckgiR8kkGdNV6 DuKxSyUa91MDvzzahDnmV2grGUAvel2vxKOCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <7BFA8F3E-CAAD-4734-A33E-D52512790A36@nathanseven.com> References: <7237bf9f0903211230j4f00cb6ewd2a67f601ef0a42c@mail.gmail.com> <7237bf9f0903211309h6ab667bdld64c496725fc856@mail.gmail.com> <7BFA8F3E-CAAD-4734-A33E-D52512790A36@nathanseven.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:45:52 +0100 Message-ID: <7237bf9f0903211845r34bec7fap1d65846838c96ae0@mail.gmail.com> From: Nyc Labrets To: Nathan Seven Cc: "The Twilight Laser Outpost (West)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636765bbd687c670465ab4f6e X-Spam-Rating: taz3.hyperreal.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Subject: Re: [sfraves] Today's FAIL of the Day --001636765bbd687c670465ab4f6e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh sure, be GLAD to, Natey, Nate. But before I do, do you ever communicate in a way that is not snide, sneering and snively? Just curious, because I've never seen you be anything but that here like yo= u just did. GREAT way to win friends and influence people, palsie walsie. Every time I see this cuntface douche prick on the TV I think of you: http://silencedmajority.blogs.com/silenced_majority_portal/2009/03/fox-make= s-paranoid-homoerotic-jokes-about-the-canadian-military.html Now then, on to my answer. My =C3=9Cber hot German GF, she of The Rack Of God, (they're REAL and they = are SPECTACULAR!!!), who obviously ADORES me, as seen here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DoAnPgpDERJw has spent her entire past care= er working elder care and got really burned out on it and, due to the nature o= f her work, NEVER so much as put her hand on a keyboard and mouse in her ENTIRE ADULT LIFE until I showed up in her life after not seeing her for over 25 years and dumped a pile of computing gear on her and told her to ge= t busy with IT AND LEARN IT RIGHT QUICK. She is a COMPLETE n00b like you wouldn't believe, and since we're launching a business together I've spent the last few weeks bringing her up to speed so that we can work together smoovely. Instead of making shit borings 4 her with Excell Spread sheets, WORD, powrpointy, news sites, all that crap, I got her on the YouTubes, The YouPorns, LOLCats, Fark, all that shit and as of right now we've become major students of the FAIL meme which sweeping the internets like America's latest dance sensation. This has proven to be a perfect approach, in less than 3 short weeks she ha= s gone from asking 100+ really fucking stupid and retarded questions a day to practically none. I'm quite PROUD of her for making such AMAZING PROGRESS in such a short time. I'm a photographer/videographer/author and one of the projects I'm working right now on is taking pics of EU type bikes, (EVERYBODY here, of ALL classes rides bikes and there is no social stigma attached to it like there is in the USA USA USA), and their automobiles. See, over here gasoline is a* LOT more expensive* than it is in the USA, been hovering at teh *$10 a gallon mark for the better part of a decade *no= w, but unlike in the USA *nobody whines *about the price. For a *lot *of good reasons. For one a lot of that is tax money that goes to support THE SOCIALIST INFRASTRUCTURE here that DOES NOT EXIST IN THE USA and they KNOW thatz they are getting a GREAT return on their tax money, since they don't chuck their poorer citizens to THE WOLVES like we *BARBARIC* Americans are so fond of doing. The other is is that nobody complains about these highly insane gas prices because most people don't drive HUMMERS that burn a hole in their WALLETS, but these *highly FUEL EFFICIENT tiny cars. * Instead of there being one sub compact for every 10 HUMMERS like we have in the States with those Stupid Ugly Vehicles Madison Avenue, Ford, GM and Exxon suckered Americans who couldn't afford these cars and the gas to fill them with. Here in the EU its the EXACT OPPOSITE. For *every ten cars* like the one seen in this clip there is *only ONE RETARDMOBILE* on the streets here. So when I see a car like the one in the clip on the street my instant refle= x is to start taking pics, so the *80% of ALL AMERICANS* 4 out 5 of us, who d= o *not* have Passports and NEVER WILL and *WILL NEVER LEAVE THE USA *can see that there is another way of preserving the little bit of money that they have left and MAYBE LEARN SOMETHING that will help them protect themselves from these *PREDATORIAL* gas, car and adverttising companies. Poor guy, as soon as my finger snapped the first pic he stalled and FAILed. I had NO IDEA that was going to happen. But since FAIL is now the hottest ticket in town I wasn't about to let this go w/out getting it on tape. Sorry, Charlie. Knowing what I have seen of you on here NATE TH=C3=88 GREAT you woulda done= the same damn thing but the DIFFERENCE BETWEEN you and me is that YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TRIED TO ENGAGE with this person. Don't know if you iunderstand German but I did try to get him to talk with me by telling him he has a pretty car, (not as pretty as this Made In America Tesla 100% ELECTRIC Roadster that Germans can afford but Americans can't ) but fuck like I said = on the clip if it were me in that situation I would prolly not stick around either. I've had at least a half a dozen POS cars that I constantly had to roll start, so I knew where the guy was coming from. I've never seen you show anyone on here any empathy, ever, not once. Instead you take a PERVERSE GLEE in other peoples misfortunes. Disgusting. So, like, whatever. One last thing before I finish. I spent a lot of time here visiting family when I was a kid and a teen and back in that time *EVERYBODY HERE LOVED AMERICA. EVERYONE IN EUROPE BACK THEN WANTED TO BE US.* Worshipped us like my GF does me now. But this Busch SHITHEAD President that you have come on here with your full throated sucking of his cock and done your Bukkake Ciorcle jerk on Busch with your friends? For YEARS and YEARS? THAT President Busch? Let me tell you about that. I came here last November the day after the election and if John McCain had won instead of PRESIDENT OBAMA these people would HAVE THROWN ROCKS AT ME. George Busch SINGLEHANDEDLY destroyed over 50 Years worth of LOVE AND GOODWIIL TOWARDS AMERICA. Gone. *YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW BAD THAT LOSS OF INTERNATIONAL GOODWILL IS FOR AMERIKA. * None. So, you can throw your little meaningless opinions around all you want, but since what you have had to say has time over time proven to be UTTERLY RETARDED I will consider the fucking source. Enjoy your cocksucking evening and have a good night. .. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Nathan Seven wrote: > You've misunderstood me- I really do want to know how to get to the state > where the witnessing of a car breaking down gives me the feeling of "God = and > the Universe is totally beaming down on me now"- I'm not a happy man and = if > I was capable of such things it would be like I was almost blissfully > retarded! > > If you've figured that out you're a very special man and you owe it to > humanity to share this wealth, and I want to know your secret! > > -N7 > > > On Mar 21, 2009, at 1:09 PM, Nyc Labrets wrote: > > C'mon Natey, my matey, lighten up take 2 of these * >> http://tinyurl.com/8dk8fx >> * and call me in the morning. >> >> Oh, I forgot, you're such a WATB you're incapable of having a sense of >> humor, for one. >> >> And for 2, I don't think an easy going, happy go lucky guy such as mysel= f >> is >> going to take anything a mean spirited sum-bitch, George Busch boot >> licking, >> Sarah Palin adoring, young, brown shirt conservative like you has to say >> about public civility seriously. >> >> Except maybe to laugh at a simple backwards clown like you. >> >> Correct if I'm wrong, but there are a lot of really nice people that use= d >> to >> be on this list because of nasty ass fuck heads, such as yourself, (who >> think of themselves as PLURtastic ravers), these very got fed up with >> your >> shit and left because they didn't want to get anywhere near your human >> toxicity. You're Radioactive Man in human skin. >> >> Do you blame them? >> >> You drove these ppl off in droves. >> >> Thanks a BUNCH >> >> Go back and read some of your old posts, i have, there are some real gem= s >> in >> their, that I'm going to spare ppl here from having to read again becaus= e >> I >> don't like to fling your poo back at you. >> >> I'm not a monkey, so I don't do that sort of thing like you do. >> >> Traffic on this list has dropped like a brick and I hang that shit >> squarely >> on your shoulders. >> >> Have a GREAT Day, and say hi to Dave 4 me. >> >> That'd be GRATE, and thanks for polluting my scene the way you have thes= e >> last several years. >> >> It's people like you that made me GLAD that I moved away to Germany wher= e >> people still practise basic human decency, and it's ppl like you that wi= ll >> make sure that I will NEVER return to the SLUM of country the people you >> support politically have turned it into to. >> >> You live in a GHETTO and the sad thing is you think it's Atherton or >> Woodside. >> >> i PITY you. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Nathan Seven w