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Subject: [sfraves] NRR: Bill Hicks censored appearance from 15 yrs. ago on Letterman
 finally gets aired

http://www.joketribe.com/video/The.Unseen.Bill.Hicks.Appearance.On.Letterman.php

More than 15 years ago, under fear of retaliation from The Religious 
Right, David Letterman chose to not air a stand-up act from the late 
Bill Hicks, who died of cancer not long after.

Bill Hicks, a comedian who described himself as "Chomsky with dick 
jokes," opens with a joke about having a new TV show where they "hunt 
and kill Billy Ray Cyrus." He also takes stabs at the pro-lifers as well 
as Easter. So it's not clear what Letterman feared would be the most 
controversial. But for the highly delayed broadcast he was highly 
apologetic, airing the act in it's entirety and stating to Mary Hicks, 
Bill's mom, whom he invited on the show to introduce the clip, "Let me 
again apologize for the heartache and sadness my decision caused your 
family."


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Subject: [sfraves] RIP Fraser Clark

Fraser Clark, a counter-culture activist since the sixties, helped to 
fuse new-age ideals with rave culture which ignited waves of new 
movements and philosophies.

http://teleomorph.com/2009/02/01/rip-fraser-clark-raver-saint



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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Bill Hicks censored appearance from 15 yrs. ago on 
	Letterman finally gets aired

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To put this in perspective, Dave never apologizes to anybody.

Indeed, when McCain, a failed Presidential candidate, stood Dave up one
night last year, it was McCain that came on bended knee to Letterman.


....

On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 10:51 PM, J.C. <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

>
> http://www.joketribe.com/video/The.Unseen.Bill.Hicks.Appearance.On.Letterman.php
>
> More than 15 years ago, under fear of retaliation from The Religious Right,
> David Letterman chose to not air a stand-up act from the late Bill Hicks,
> who died of cancer not long after.
>
> Bill Hicks, a comedian who described himself as "Chomsky with dick jokes,"
> opens with a joke about having a new TV show where they "hunt and kill Billy
> Ray Cyrus." He also takes stabs at the pro-lifers as well as Easter. So it's
> not clear what Letterman feared would be the most controversial. But for the
> highly delayed broadcast he was highly apologetic, airing the act in it's
> entirety and stating to Mary Hicks, Bill's mom, whom he invited on the show
> to introduce the clip, "Let me again apologize for the heartache and sadness
> my decision caused your family."
>
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> --
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Subject: [sfraves] NRR: How much do you pay in income tax?

Not sure how many folks are friends with Apollo on facebook, but here's a link 
he shared over there:
http://www.toomuchonline.org/tmweekly.html

At the bottom in the sidebar is this interesting stat:
Stat of the Week

How low can taxes on America's rich go? This low: The IRS revealed last week 
that America.s 400 highest-income taxpayers averaged $263 million each in 2006 
and paid just 17.2 percent of that, or $45 million, in federal income tax. In 
1992, America's 400 richest averaged only $46.8 million in income and paid 26.4 
percent of that in tax.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: How much do you pay in income tax?

Seems like they're paying their fair share. Those percentages aren't 
that low if you consider America's corporate tax compared to other 
countries. It's like you complain about the wealthy's "low" tax-rate, 
but what is your suggestion of a fair tax-rate for the fortunate 400? Is 
50% fair? is 75% fair? I'm serious, what is your suggestion?

People should be focusing on the real issues that are creating wealth 
disparity in the USA, such as the endless availability of cheap foreign 
labor, the corrupt SEC and it's hedge-funds, or the enormous tax-burden 
(deficit) that is the occupation of Iraq (nobody wants to talk about that).

The disparity of wealth and the health of the economy won't be solved by 
taxing the rich more. Especially when the taxes will just be wasted on 
something like the Iraq.

// dreamdust

J.C. wrote:
> Not sure how many folks are friends with Apollo on facebook, but 
> here's a link he shared over there:
> http://www.toomuchonline.org/tmweekly.html
>
> At the bottom in the sidebar is this interesting stat:
> Stat of the Week
>
> How low can taxes on America's rich go? This low: The IRS revealed 
> last week that America.s 400 highest-income taxpayers averaged $263 
> million each in 2006 and paid just 17.2 percent of that, or $45 
> million, in federal income tax. In 1992, America's 400 richest 
> averaged only $46.8 million in income and paid 26.4 percent of that in 
> tax.
>
> Equitable?  Rightfully gotten?
>
>

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Subject: [sfraves] Christian Bale freakout remix

Much like the Bill O'reilly freakout saturation, we now have some  
great beats to go with Bale's recent outlash on the T4 set.

much swearing so very NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTihsJQHt48

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: How much do you pay in income tax?

Are you saying that the income parity from the post depression years to 
the early 80's were not a viable way of operating?

On 3 February 2009, dreamdust wrote:

> Seems like they're paying their fair share. Those percentages aren't that low 
> if you consider America's corporate tax compared to other countries. It's 
> like you complain about the wealthy's "low" tax-rate, but what is your 
> suggestion of a fair tax-rate for the fortunate 400? Is 50% fair? is 75% 
> fair? I'm serious, what is your suggestion?
>
> People should be focusing on the real issues that are creating wealth 
> disparity in the USA, such as the endless availability of cheap foreign 
> labor, the corrupt SEC and it's hedge-funds, or the enormous tax-burden 
> (deficit) that is the occupation of Iraq (nobody wants to talk about that).
>
> The disparity of wealth and the health of the economy won't be solved by 
> taxing the rich more. Especially when the taxes will just be wasted on 
> something like the Iraq.
>
> // dreamdust
>
> J.C. wrote:
>> Not sure how many folks are friends with Apollo on facebook, but here's a 
>> link he shared over there:
>> http://www.toomuchonline.org/tmweekly.html
>> 
>> At the bottom in the sidebar is this interesting stat:
>> Stat of the Week
>> 
>> How low can taxes on America's rich go? This low: The IRS revealed last 
>> week that America.s 400 highest-income taxpayers averaged $263 million each 
>> in 2006 and paid just 17.2 percent of that, or $45 million, in federal 
>> income tax. In 1992, America's 400 richest averaged only $46.8 million in 
>> income and paid 26.4 percent of that in tax.
>> 
>> Equitable?  Rightfully gotten?
>> 
>> 
>
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Subject: [sfraves] bsp: Derek Plaslaiko + Dave Siska tonight @ Anu...FREE!

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past [KONTROL] headliner Derek Plaslaiko (Bunker:NYC) is still in town and
having one more go at it!

he's playing all night with his good friend Dave Siska (SonicSunset:Chicago)
for FREE. :)

hope to see you out.

this show is super last minute, so please help by spreading the word!

here are the details and the pretty f-ing hilarious flyer:

http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/26/l_39db67c408a440b98f51ebb1c378d441.png


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Anyone know about any 604 events going on?
  Just wondering
   
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	I put this set together for the "bass 4 your face and art 4 your =
=20
heart" burning man fundraiser this past saturday.  Technical =20
difficulties prevented me from using the live recording of that event, =20=

but I recorded a previous practice run through as well.  enjoy.

skullz
http://zombie-j.com/wordpress/?p=3D25

tracklisting:
zombie-j - thriller intro mashup
nero - bad trip
reso - spooky
scuba - out there
nero - night thunder
nero - this way
suspicious stench - ghost town
sukh knight - diesal not petrol
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ed solo - age of dub (zj edit)
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zombie-j - NLF (128Kbps mix)
stenchman - dubnet
ill.gates and meesha - sweatshop (taal mala remix - zj edit)
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koan sound - clowny
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caper - hybrid
the squire of gothos - bounty ice cream
the squire of gothos - introsphere
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rougestar - calling
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Subject: [sfraves] venue

Anyone on this list still throw events?

Found on CL: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/eve/1020007459.html

Cool, shady, crappy, or over priced?  What's the deal with this venue?

Thanks in advance,

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it's the icon lounge, and they're trying to start a happy hour thing.

m

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> Subject: [sfraves] venue
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 9:55 PM
> Anyone on this list still throw events?
> 
> Found on CL:
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/eve/1020007459.html
> 
> Cool, shady, crappy, or over priced?  What's the deal
> with this venue?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Peter
> 
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slight correction - it seems that they're looking to do private events with a set number of people.  time is 5pm-9pm range.

m

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> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] venue
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 11:35 PM
> it's the icon lounge, and they're trying to start a
> happy hour thing.
> 
> m
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------
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>  blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah
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> 
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> > 
> > Found on CL:
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> > 
> > Cool, shady, crappy, or over priced?  What's the
> deal
> > with this venue?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Peter
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I just sit here at my computer and think oh my god I had so much fun.
I can't even count how many parties I went to since I was 16 yo and how man=
y different DJs I heard live. How many different people I met from so many =
different cities and countries. I remember so many different locations for =
parties and afterparties that its crazy. Those were the most awsome amazing=
 experiences that have changed the way I see the world even for=A0now.=A0I =
can't even explain how much fun that all was. I miss those nights and those=
 weekends and the camp outs and omg that was incredible I am so fucking luc=
ky to have those experiences be a part of my memories. If I could go back a=
nd do it all over again I would. Omg I was so lucky to have gone through th=
at experience and met all those people. I just get lost in my vivid memorie=
s of parties gone by and I miss those feelings that I had when you are surr=
ounded by all your good friends with good vibes and you just feel like this=
 is amazing and how can this all be happening how can life be this
 fantastic how can i be so lucky to have fallen into this autonomous zone w=
hat did I do that was so good that granted me access to this amazing electr=
onic music world and underground culture that is beyond imagination and enc=
ourages the expression of the creative force that is within each of us. Wow=
.. I am in awe of the success of it all and how the novelty ceases to wear o=
ff. And day after day just amazed at how much more I remember as time passe=
s. I just=A0 think to myself oh my god that was so awsome. It's like some a=
mazing dream. Did that all just really happen? Wow. I wanna go on that ride=
 again. I wish I could like take some magic elixer that would make me fall =
asleep and wake up=A0in 1996=A0at a party.
And I would get to experience all those parties over again.=0A=0A=0A      
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP- It Really is Time for a RAINDANCE!!!!

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i know all this beautiful=0Asunshine and warm weather seems like a blessing=
, especially, if like=0Ame, you are from the east coast where it hovers aro=
und and often drops=0Abelow freezing and snow and sleet were a regular nuis=
ance but really=0Apeople... i certainly don't like the idea of water ration=
ing, nor the=0Aidea of many of our favorite summer events being postponed, =
canceled,=0Aor turned into mini disasters by a horrendous wildfire season t=
his=0Asummer. i am serious friends and family. for real this time.=0ARAINDA=
NCE!!!!!!!!!=0ATHURSDAY FEB 5th=0Ai know it seems like it was just last wee=
k that i was singing beat=0Achurch's praises... oh wait, it was. that was a=
 special "5th thursday"=0Aedition of one of sf's favorite bi-monthly partie=
s. now it returns to=0Ait's regular schedule....=0ABEAT CHURCH
Shine Mission @ 9th
10pm - 2am $5=0AGENO COCHINO
KNOWONE
KITTY-D
NEPTUNE=0A
FRIDAY FEB 6th=0AGUN HAY FAT CHOY!!!! this has become one of my favorite ev=
ents of=0Athe year and the line-up is stellar.=A0and what better place for =
a=0Araindance than a raindance party? =0A10th Annual Raindance Chinese New =
Year
1015 Folsom @ 6th st.
9pm - 6am
$20/$25 pre-sales at http://sanfrancisco.going.com/chinesenewyear09
$30 at the door=0A"The Year of the OX / Water Buffalo "
The elements of the coming new year are Yin / Earth

The Procession begins at Midnight so don't be late=20

We will be celebrating with some special performances
by Lung Chins White Crane with high pole Lion Dance
martial arts demonstration, Mask making and our annual
dragon dance parade. With the Santa Cruz Stilt Circus and=20
drummers


Main Room=20
10pm - Neptune=20
11pm - Sweet Snacks=20
11:15pm - Mochipet=20
12:15am - Performance=20
1am  - FortKnox5 & Matt the Alien=20
2:15am - Vibesquad=20
3:30am - An-ten-nae vs. Laura=20
4:30am - Little John=20
5:15am - Rastatronics=20
=0AUpstairs=20
9pm - Subwsie DJs=20
11pm - DJ G=20
12mid - Matty G=20
1am - Pinch=20
2:30am - 6Blocc=20
3:45am - Rootz vs Murphy=20
5am - Chlorophil=20
=0AFront Room=20
9pm - Tha Scritch=20
10:15pm - Motion Potion=20
11:15pm - Ana Sia=20
12:15am - Performance=20
1am - EPROM=20
2am - Mozaic=20
3am - Rena Jones=20
4am - Beats Antique=20
5am - Nanda=20
=0ABassment=20
10pm - Comma=20
11pm - Mr. Projectile=20
12mid - Mycho=20
1am - Bass Cadet=20
2am - Aaron Jae vs Bam=20
3:15am - R-Kidz=20
4:15am - Alia =0AWe will=0Abe once again transforming the technologically a=
dvanced venue @ 1015=0AFolsom St into a temple of sight sound and majick, (=
you know how we do)

=0A
=0A=A0SATURDAY FEB 7th=0Aseems like everyone played at chinese new year, so=
 if you have any=0Aenergy left why not go check out something new, and for =
a good cause?=0A=A0=0APAJAMA/SUSHI/MARTINI Party
TBA call 415-373-8941 DAY OF
$10 donation at the door if you are dressed for the occasion
 $20 and you will be dressed by the hosts=0ABack by popular demand, it's th=
e seventh annual PJ/Martini/Sushi=0Aparty. This is the much talked about, a=
lways infamous and not to be=0Amissed bash. For the newbies, Check out the =
bottom of the page for a=0Abrief primer.

For those of you who have heard the stories or are=0Aveterans of past parti=
es, it's the same deal. Lots of food, alcohol and=0Afun while you party in =
your PJs.

What's new this year is the=0Avenue has been moved to San Francisco and thi=
s will be a charity fund=0Araiser for the Carcinoid Cancer research and edu=
cation.=20

Martinis=0Awill be flowing. Chocolate, sour apple, dirty... you name it. Th=
ere=0Awill also be a variety of mixed drinks, beer and non alcoholic=0Abeve=
rages.

PJs - Everybody asks, so here's the answer. Wear your=0Abedroom get up. Mak=
e it as naughty or nice as you like. Whether you=0Ashop at Frederick's or L=
.L. Bean, so long as you are wearing your=0Anighty-night wear you will be p=
arty appropriate. Creative slippers are=0Aa bonus. Please -- if you like to=
 sleep in your birthday suit -- a robe=0Awould be recommended (appreciated)=
. If you have a bit of a wild streak,=0Abut want to make sure you don't sti=
ck out like Bridget Jones at a=0Acocktail party, wear something sinful unde=
r your flannels. We are=0Aasking that everyone bring a $10 donation at the =
door if you are=0Adressed for the occasion. If you show up in street attire=
, the donation=0Awill be $20 and you will be dressed by the hosts from the =
hand me down=0A(thrift store) drawer. We suggest you dress yourself.

We have a great lineup of DJs to keep the dance floor packed:=0A
=0ATym Ryan=0ASteve Courtney=0ASulaiman Ahmad=0AShannon Shalako=0A
=0A We will have two bars with reasonably priced drinks (Remember, this=0Ai=
s a fund raiser. While you are partying, you are doing a good thing=0Afor c=
harity). There will also be Fresh Sushi, a huge dance floor, cute=0Abartend=
ers, slumber party inspired lounge areas and much more. The=0Alocation of t=
he warehouse will be kept a secret until the day of the=0Aevent..=20
=0A=A0=0Aand that's it for this weekend. i hope this message finds you all=
=0Awell, and on time! i know there have been problems with the last few=0Ae=
mails and i am working on fixing it but i am no where close to being a=0Awe=
b or internet guru so bear with me! in the mean time i also post my=0Alist =
to tribe, facebook, and sfraves, so the info is out there!=0Asee you on the=
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=0A      
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP- It Really is Time for a RAINDANCE!!!!

think it worked.

http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?CityName=San+Francisco&state=CA&site=MTR&textField1=37.775&textField2=-122.418

check out the the reflectvity off el radar.
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?product=NCR&rid=MUX&loop=yes

this is fun and comforting to watch as the rain is coming down. plus i 
don't have to watch tv to wait to get my weather news.

sean.

Layla Lewis wrote:
> i know all this beautiful
> sunshine and warm weather seems like a blessing, especially, if like
> me, you are from the east coast where it hovers around and often drops
> below freezing and snow and sleet were a regular nuisance but really
> people... i certainly don't like the idea of water rationing, nor the
> idea of many of our favorite summer events being postponed, canceled,
> or turned into mini disasters by a horrendous wildfire season this
> summer. i am serious friends and family. for real this time.
> RAINDANCE!!!!!!!!!
> THURSDAY FEB 5th
> i know it seems like it was just last week that i was singing beat
> church's praises... oh wait, it was. that was a special "5th thursday"
> edition of one of sf's favorite bi-monthly parties. now it returns to
> it's regular schedule....
> BEAT CHURCH
> Shine Mission @ 9th
> 10pm - 2am $5
> GENO COCHINO
> KNOWONE
> KITTY-D
> NEPTUNE
>
> FRIDAY FEB 6th
> GUN HAY FAT CHOY!!!! this has become one of my favorite events of
> the year and the line-up is stellar. and what better place for a
> raindance than a raindance party? 
> 10th Annual Raindance Chinese New Year
> 1015 Folsom @ 6th st.
> 9pm - 6am
> $20/$25 pre-sales at http://sanfrancisco.going.com/chinesenewyear09
> $30 at the door
> "The Year of the OX / Water Buffalo "
> The elements of the coming new year are Yin / Earth
>
> The Procession begins at Midnight so don't be late 
>
> We will be celebrating with some special performances
> by Lung Chins White Crane with high pole Lion Dance
> martial arts demonstration, Mask making and our annual
> dragon dance parade. With the Santa Cruz Stilt Circus and 
> drummers
>
>
> Main Room 
> 10pm - Neptune 
> 11pm - Sweet Snacks 
> 11:15pm - Mochipet 
> 12:15am - Performance 
> 1am  - FortKnox5 & Matt the Alien 
> 2:15am - Vibesquad 
> 3:30am - An-ten-nae vs. Laura 
> 4:30am - Little John 
> 5:15am - Rastatronics 
>
> Upstairs 
> 9pm - Subwsie DJs 
> 11pm - DJ G 
> 12mid - Matty G 
> 1am - Pinch 
> 2:30am - 6Blocc 
> 3:45am - Rootz vs Murphy 
> 5am - Chlorophil 
>
> Front Room 
> 9pm - Tha Scritch 
> 10:15pm - Motion Potion 
> 11:15pm - Ana Sia 
> 12:15am - Performance 
> 1am - EPROM 
> 2am - Mozaic 
> 3am - Rena Jones 
> 4am - Beats Antique 
> 5am - Nanda 
>
> Bassment 
> 10pm - Comma 
> 11pm - Mr. Projectile 
> 12mid - Mycho 
> 1am - Bass Cadet 
> 2am - Aaron Jae vs Bam 
> 3:15am - R-Kidz 
> 4:15am - Alia 
> We will
> be once again transforming the technologically advanced venue @ 1015
> Folsom St into a temple of sight sound and majick, (you know how we do)
>
>
>
>
>  SATURDAY FEB 7th
> seems like everyone played at chinese new year, so if you have any
> energy left why not go check out something new, and for a good cause?
>  
> PAJAMA/SUSHI/MARTINI Party
> TBA call 415-373-8941 DAY OF
> $10 donation at the door if you are dressed for the occasion
>  $20 and you will be dressed by the hosts
> Back by popular demand, it's the seventh annual PJ/Martini/Sushi
> party. This is the much talked about, always infamous and not to be
> missed bash. For the newbies, Check out the bottom of the page for a
> brief primer.
>
> For those of you who have heard the stories or are
> veterans of past parties, it's the same deal. Lots of food, alcohol and
> fun while you party in your PJs.
>
> What's new this year is the
> venue has been moved to San Francisco and this will be a charity fund
> raiser for the Carcinoid Cancer research and education. 
>
> Martinis
> will be flowing. Chocolate, sour apple, dirty... you name it. There
> will also be a variety of mixed drinks, beer and non alcoholic
> beverages.
>
> PJs - Everybody asks, so here's the answer. Wear your
> bedroom get up. Make it as naughty or nice as you like. Whether you
> shop at Frederick's or L.L. Bean, so long as you are wearing your
> nighty-night wear you will be party appropriate. Creative slippers are
> a bonus. Please -- if you like to sleep in your birthday suit -- a robe
> would be recommended (appreciated). If you have a bit of a wild streak,
> but want to make sure you don't stick out like Bridget Jones at a
> cocktail party, wear something sinful under your flannels. We are
> asking that everyone bring a $10 donation at the door if you are
> dressed for the occasion. If you show up in street attire, the donation
> will be $20 and you will be dressed by the hosts from the hand me down
> (thrift store) drawer. We suggest you dress yourself.
>
> We have a great lineup of DJs to keep the dance floor packed:
>
>
> Tym Ryan
> Steve Courtney
> Sulaiman Ahmad
> Shannon Shalako
>
>
>  We will have two bars with reasonably priced drinks (Remember, this
> is a fund raiser. While you are partying, you are doing a good thing
> for charity). There will also be Fresh Sushi, a huge dance floor, cute
> bartenders, slumber party inspired lounge areas and much more. The
> location of the warehouse will be kept a secret until the day of the
> event.. 
>
>  
> and that's it for this weekend. i hope this message finds you all
> well, and on time! i know there have been problems with the last few
> emails and i am working on fixing it but i am no where close to being a
> web or internet guru so bear with me! in the mean time i also post my
> list to tribe, facebook, and sfraves, so the info is out there!
> see you on the dancefloor, praying for more rain!
> peace love and beats - pufuchu
>
>
>       
>   

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Saturday, February 7th, 2008

[ K O N T R O L ]

minimal techno + avant house
every 1st Saturday at The Endup



featuring from Berlin:


MIKE SHANNON

(Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
(Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)

A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
integral member of the Canadian techno community
centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
the international scene for over a decade prior to his
recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
quirky minimal techno and house on his own
Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
and dedication to sharing great music with the world.



and special guest from Minneapols:


DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa

(Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)

Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
of slowing.



with [KONTROL] residents:


NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat

CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
http://www.myspace.com/craig1

ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
http://www.myspace.com/alland

SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle


____________________________________________________


The ENDUP
401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
http://www.theendup.com

FREE before 11pm!

____________________________________________________


[KONTROL] on MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf

Flyer front:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg

Flyer back:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg

Poster:
http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg


___________________________________________________


MIKE SHANNON

(bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)

It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's recently
crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third full
length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's not
just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno community,
it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing behind
a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
the scene.

Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of Kitchener,
Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds from
across Europe.

Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers and
artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure in
1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed into
highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such as
Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.

For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists who
possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his own
work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under his
own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven by
a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of chilled-out
Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.

Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers having
taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
personally.


===> LINKS:

Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings

Mike Shannon's discography:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon

Mike Shannon's website:
http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/

Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/


===> MUSIC:

Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio

Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3


===> VIDEO:

Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0

Interview with Mike Shannon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8


____________________________________________________


DUSTIN ZAHN

After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin, Dustin
began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met future-partner
Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained to
him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he was
talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks and
won just as much respect as he did with his productions.

In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next level.
They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.

A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman in
2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind, Compound,
GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The Attack
People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the mind
and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When not
in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.

In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains" on
Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a name
the techno world will be hearing much more of.


===> LINKS:

Dustin Zahn's website:
http://www.enemyrecords.com/

Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn

Dustin Zahn's discography:
http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn


===> MUSIC:

Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3

Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3


===> VIDEO:

Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os

Dustin Zahn in Italy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE


___________________________________________________

http://www.kontrolsf.com

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I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making some
of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /

When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!




On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:

> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
>
> [ K O N T R O L ]
>
> minimal techno + avant house
> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
>
>
>
> featuring from Berlin:
>
>
> MIKE SHANNON
>
> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
>
> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
> integral member of the Canadian techno community
> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
>
>
>
> and special guest from Minneapols:
>
>
> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
>
> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
>
> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
> of slowing.
>
>
>
> with [KONTROL] residents:
>
>
> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
>
> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
>
> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
> http://www.myspace.com/alland
>
> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
>
>
> The ENDUP
> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
> http://www.theendup.com
>
> FREE before 11pm!
>
> ____________________________________________________
>
>
> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
>
> Flyer front:
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
>
> Flyer back:
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
>
> Poster:
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
>
>
> MIKE SHANNON
>
> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
>
> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's recently
> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third full
> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's not
> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
> community,
> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing behind
> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
> the scene.
>
> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of Kitchener,
> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
> from
> across Europe.
>
> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
> and
> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure in
> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed into
> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such as
> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
>
> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists who
> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his own
> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
> his
> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven by
> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
> chilled-out
> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
>
> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
> having
> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
> personally.
>
>
> ===> LINKS:
>
> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
>
> Mike Shannon's discography:
> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
>
> Mike Shannon's website:
> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
>
> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
>
>
> ===> MUSIC:
>
> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
>
> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
>
>
> ===> VIDEO:
>
> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
>
> Interview with Mike Shannon
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
>
>
> ____________________________________________________
>
>
> DUSTIN ZAHN
>
> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
> Dustin
> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
> future-partner
> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained
> to
> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
> was
> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks and
> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
>
> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next level.
> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
>
> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman in
> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
> Compound,
> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
> Attack
> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
> mind
> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When not
> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
>
> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains"
> on
> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
> name
> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
>
>
> ===> LINKS:
>
> Dustin Zahn's website:
> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
>
> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
>
> Dustin Zahn's discography:
> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
>
>
> ===> MUSIC:
>
> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
>
> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
>
>
> ===> VIDEO:
>
> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
>
> Dustin Zahn in Italy
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
>
> http://www.kontrolsf.com
>

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	Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)

next friday!

not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....

http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg





On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making some
> of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
>
> When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
>>
>> [ K O N T R O L ]
>>
>> minimal techno + avant house
>> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
>>
>>
>>
>> featuring from Berlin:
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
>> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
>>
>> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
>> integral member of the Canadian techno community
>> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
>> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
>> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
>> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
>> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
>> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
>> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
>> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
>> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> and special guest from Minneapols:
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
>>
>> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
>> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
>> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
>> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
>> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
>> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
>> of slowing.
>>
>>
>>
>> with [KONTROL] residents:
>>
>>
>> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
>> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
>>
>> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
>> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
>>
>> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
>> http://www.myspace.com/alland
>>
>> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
>> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> The ENDUP
>> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
>> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
>> http://www.theendup.com
>>
>> FREE before 11pm!
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
>>
>> Flyer front:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
>>
>> Flyer back:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
>>
>> Poster:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
>>
>> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
>> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
>> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
>> recently
>> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
>> full
>> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
>> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
>> not
>> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
>> community,
>> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
>> behind
>> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
>> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
>> the scene.
>>
>> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
>> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
>> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
>> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
>> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
>> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
>> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
>> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
>> Kitchener,
>> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
>> from
>> across Europe.
>>
>> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
>> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
>> and
>> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
>> in
>> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
>> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
>> into
>> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
>> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
>> as
>> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
>> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
>> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
>> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
>>
>> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
>> who
>> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
>> own
>> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
>> his
>> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
>> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
>> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
>> by
>> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
>> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
>> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
>> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
>> chilled-out
>> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
>>
>> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
>> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
>> having
>> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
>> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
>> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
>> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
>> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
>> personally.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
>>
>> Mike Shannon's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
>>
>> Mike Shannon's website:
>> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
>>
>> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
>> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
>> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
>>
>> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
>>
>> Interview with Mike Shannon
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN
>>
>> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
>> Dustin
>> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
>> future-partner
>> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained
>> to
>> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
>> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
>> was
>> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
>> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
>> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
>> and
>> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
>>
>> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
>> level.
>> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
>> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
>> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
>>
>> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
>> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
>> in
>> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
>> Compound,
>> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
>> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
>> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
>> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
>> Attack
>> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
>> mind
>> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
>> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
>> not
>> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
>> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
>>
>> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
>> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains"
>> on
>> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
>> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
>> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
>> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
>> name
>> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's website:
>> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
>>
>> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
>> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
>>
>> Dustin Zahn in Italy
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com
>
>

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) + 
	Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)

also ben, i just found out that 2562 will be done playing by 2am.

plenty of time to still catch most of Mike Shannon and all of Dustin Zahn!


here are the set times if anyone's interested...

1000-1110  Sammy D
1110-1220  Craig Kuna
1220-0130  Nikola Baytala
0130-0330  Mike Shannon
0330-0450  Dustin Zahn (live)
0450-0600  Alland Byallo





On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
> next friday!
>
> not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....
>
> http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
>> Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making some
>> of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
>>
>> When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
>>>
>>> [ K O N T R O L ]
>>>
>>> minimal techno + avant house
>>> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> featuring from Berlin:
>>>
>>>
>>> MIKE SHANNON
>>>
>>> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
>>> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
>>>
>>> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
>>> integral member of the Canadian techno community
>>> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
>>> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
>>> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
>>> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
>>> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
>>> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
>>> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
>>> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
>>> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> and special guest from Minneapols:
>>>
>>>
>>> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
>>>
>>> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
>>> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
>>> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
>>> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
>>> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
>>> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
>>> of slowing.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> with [KONTROL] residents:
>>>
>>>
>>> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
>>> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
>>>
>>> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
>>> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
>>>
>>> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
>>> http://www.myspace.com/alland
>>>
>>> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
>>> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> The ENDUP
>>> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
>>> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
>>> http://www.theendup.com
>>>
>>> FREE before 11pm!
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
>>> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
>>>
>>> Flyer front:
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
>>>
>>> Flyer back:
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
>>>
>>> Poster:
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> MIKE SHANNON
>>>
>>> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
>>>
>>> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
>>> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
>>> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
>>> recently
>>> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
>>> full
>>> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
>>> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
>>> not
>>> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
>>> community,
>>> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
>>> behind
>>> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
>>> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
>>> the scene.
>>>
>>> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
>>> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
>>> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
>>> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
>>> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
>>> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
>>> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
>>> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
>>> Kitchener,
>>> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
>>> from
>>> across Europe.
>>>
>>> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
>>> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
>>> and
>>> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
>>> in
>>> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
>>> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
>>> into
>>> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
>>> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
>>> as
>>> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
>>> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
>>> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
>>> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
>>>
>>> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
>>> who
>>> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
>>> own
>>> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
>>> his
>>> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
>>> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
>>> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
>>> by
>>> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
>>> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
>>> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
>>> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
>>> chilled-out
>>> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
>>>
>>> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
>>> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
>>> having
>>> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
>>> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
>>> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
>>> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
>>> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
>>> personally.
>>>
>>>
>>> ===> LINKS:
>>>
>>> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
>>> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
>>>
>>> Mike Shannon's discography:
>>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
>>>
>>> Mike Shannon's website:
>>> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
>>>
>>> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
>>> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
>>>
>>>
>>> ===> MUSIC:
>>>
>>> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
>>> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
>>>
>>> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
>>>
>>>
>>> ===> VIDEO:
>>>
>>> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
>>>
>>> Interview with Mike Shannon
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
>>>
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>> DUSTIN ZAHN
>>>
>>> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
>>> Dustin
>>> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
>>> future-partner
>>> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained
>>> to
>>> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
>>> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
>>> was
>>> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
>>> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
>>> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
>>> and
>>> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
>>>
>>> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
>>> level.
>>> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
>>> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
>>> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
>>>
>>> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
>>> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
>>> in
>>> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
>>> Compound,
>>> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
>>> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
>>> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
>>> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
>>> Attack
>>> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
>>> mind
>>> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
>>> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
>>> not
>>> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
>>> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
>>>
>>> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
>>> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains"
>>> on
>>> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
>>> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
>>> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
>>> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
>>> name
>>> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
>>>
>>>
>>> ===> LINKS:
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn's website:
>>> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
>>> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn's discography:
>>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
>>>
>>>
>>> ===> MUSIC:
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
>>>
>>>
>>> ===> VIDEO:
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
>>>
>>> Dustin Zahn in Italy
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
>>>
>>>
>>> ___________________________________________________
>>>
>>> http://www.kontrolsf.com
>>
>>
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Too late, you've already sold me on the party for 2/13!  I'll see ya there
if yer at Tehama!



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:50 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:

> also ben, i just found out that 2562 will be done playing by 2am.
>
> plenty of time to still catch most of Mike Shannon and all of Dustin Zahn!
>
>
> here are the set times if anyone's interested...
>
> 1000-1110  Sammy D
> 1110-1220  Craig Kuna
> 1220-0130  Nikola Baytala
> 0130-0330  Mike Shannon
> 0330-0450  Dustin Zahn (live)
> 0450-0600  Alland Byallo
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
> > next friday!
> >
> > not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....
> >
> > http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> >> Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making
> some
> >> of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
> >>
> >> When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
> >>>
> >>> [ K O N T R O L ]
> >>>
> >>> minimal techno + avant house
> >>> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> featuring from Berlin:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MIKE SHANNON
> >>>
> >>> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
> >>> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
> >>>
> >>> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
> >>> integral member of the Canadian techno community
> >>> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
> >>> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
> >>> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
> >>> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
> >>> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
> >>> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
> >>> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
> >>> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
> >>> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> and special guest from Minneapols:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
> >>>
> >>> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
> >>> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
> >>> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
> >>> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
> >>> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
> >>> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
> >>> of slowing.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> with [KONTROL] residents:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
> >>>
> >>> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
> >>>
> >>> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/alland
> >>>
> >>> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The ENDUP
> >>> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
> >>> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
> >>> http://www.theendup.com
> >>>
> >>> FREE before 11pm!
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
> >>>
> >>> Flyer front:
> >>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Flyer back:
> >>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
> >>>
> >>> Poster:
> >>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> MIKE SHANNON
> >>>
> >>> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
> >>>
> >>> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself
> on
> >>> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
> >>> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
> >>> recently
> >>> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
> >>> full
> >>> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export -
> Richie
> >>> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
> >>> not
> >>> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
> >>> community,
> >>> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
> >>> behind
> >>> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
> >>> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future
> of
> >>> the scene.
> >>>
> >>> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
> >>> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable
> skills
> >>> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs.
> From
> >>> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part
> to
> >>> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R.,
> Juan
> >>> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in
> his
> >>> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno,
> he
> >>> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
> >>> Kitchener,
> >>> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
> >>> from
> >>> across Europe.
> >>>
> >>> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
> >>> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of
> producers
> >>> and
> >>> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label
> Cynosure
> >>> in
> >>> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the
> more
> >>> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
> >>> into
> >>> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile
> of
> >>> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers
> such
> >>> as
> >>> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their
> distinctive
> >>> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
> >>> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international
> artists
> >>> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
> >>>
> >>> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
> >>> who
> >>> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
> >>> own
> >>> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or
> under
> >>> his
> >>> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
> >>> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and
> never
> >>> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily
> proven
> >>> by
> >>> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
> >>> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that
> cemented
> >>> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
> >>> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
> >>> chilled-out
> >>> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
> >>>
> >>> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another
> chapter
> >>> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
> >>> having
> >>> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's
> a
> >>> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
> >>> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
> >>> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
> >>> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally
> and
> >>> personally.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ===> LINKS:
> >>>
> >>> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
> >>>
> >>> Mike Shannon's discography:
> >>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
> >>>
> >>> Mike Shannon's website:
> >>> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
> >>>
> >>> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
> >>> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ===> MUSIC:
> >>>
> >>> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
> >>> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
> >>>
> >>> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
> >>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ===> VIDEO:
> >>>
> >>> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
> >>>
> >>> Interview with Mike Shannon
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ____________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> DUSTIN ZAHN
> >>>
> >>> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
> >>> Dustin
> >>> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
> >>> future-partner
> >>> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian
> explained
> >>> to
> >>> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
> >>> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what
> he
> >>> was
> >>> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this
> was
> >>> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
> >>> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
> >>> and
> >>> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
> >>>
> >>> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
> >>> level.
> >>> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year
> later
> >>> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
> >>> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
> >>>
> >>> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal,
> dark,
> >>> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian
> Lehman
> >>> in
> >>> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
> >>> Compound,
> >>> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from
> many
> >>> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing,
> Dave
> >>> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more.
> Together
> >>> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
> >>> Attack
> >>> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
> >>> mind
> >>> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets
> which
> >>> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
> >>> not
> >>> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
> >>> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
> >>>
> >>> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons
> of
> >>> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The
> Chains"
> >>> on
> >>> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on
> his
> >>> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire,
> as
> >>> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and
> Adam
> >>> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
> >>> name
> >>> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ===> LINKS:
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn's website:
> >>> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
> >>> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn's discography:
> >>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ===> MUSIC:
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
> >>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
> >>>
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ===> VIDEO:
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
> >>>
> >>> Dustin Zahn in Italy
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>> http://www.kontrolsf.com
> >>
> >>
> >
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Subject: [sfraves] need a hand from someone going to raindance

looking for someone that's going to raindance tonight that would be
willing to bring over some kontrol flyers and drop them around at the
party.

happy to put you and a guest on the list for tomorrow in exchange for
the favor.

unfortunately, i'm sick with the flu and can't deliver them to you,
but i live in the lower haight, and there just so happens to be a
rather sweet 1 year anniversary for Killswitch going on right across
the street tonight with Jonah Sharp, Dave Aju, and Drumcell, so if you
were stopping by there, grabbing them would be no prob.

hit me up via PM if interested.

thanks.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)

With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event (that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows my mind.

To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then! 

Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those djs use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.

I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing things at the wall until something sticks.

-George




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next friday!

not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....

http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg





On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making some
> of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
>
> When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
>>
>> [ K O N T R O L ]
>>
>> minimal techno + avant house
>> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
>>
>>
>>
>> featuring from Berlin:
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
>> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
>>
>> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
>> integral member of the Canadian techno community
>> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
>> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
>> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
>> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
>> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
>> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
>> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
>> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
>> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> and special guest from Minneapols:
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
>>
>> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
>> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
>> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
>> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
>> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
>> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
>> of slowing.
>>
>>
>>
>> with [KONTROL] residents:
>>
>>
>> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
>> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
>>
>> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
>> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
>>
>> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
>> http://www.myspace.com/alland
>>
>> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
>> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> The ENDUP
>> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
>> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
>> http://www.theendup.com
>>
>> FREE before 11pm!
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
>>
>> Flyer front:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
>>
>> Flyer back:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
>>
>> Poster:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
>>
>> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
>> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
>> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
>> recently
>> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
>> full
>> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
>> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
>> not
>> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
>> community,
>> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
>> behind
>> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
>> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
>> the scene.
>>
>> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
>> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
>> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
>> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
>> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
>> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
>> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
>> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
>> Kitchener,
>> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
>> from
>> across Europe.
>>
>> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
>> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
>> and
>> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
>> in
>> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
>> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
>> into
>> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
>> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
>> as
>> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
>> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
>> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
>> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
>>
>> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
>> who
>> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
>> own
>> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
>> his
>> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
>> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
>> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
>> by
>> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
>> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
>> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
>> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
>> chilled-out
>> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
>>
>> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
>> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
>> having
>> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
>> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
>> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
>> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
>> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
>> personally.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
>>
>> Mike Shannon's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
>>
>> Mike Shannon's website:
>> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
>>
>> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
>> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
>> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
>>
>> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
>>
>> Interview with Mike Shannon
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN
>>
>> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
>> Dustin
>> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
>> future-partner
>> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained
>> to
>> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
>> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
>> was
>> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
>> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
>> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
>> and
>> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
>>
>> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
>> level.
>> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
>> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
>> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
>>
>> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
>> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
>> in
>> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
>> Compound,
>> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
>> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
>> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
>> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
>> Attack
>> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
>> mind
>> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
>> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
>> not
>> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
>> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
>>
>> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
>> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains"
>> on
>> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
>> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
>> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
>> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
>> name
>> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's website:
>> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
>>
>> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
>> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
>>
>> Dustin Zahn in Italy
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com
>
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When we look back at the beginnings of DJing and EDM, and compare it with
the vinyl-only purists of the present, it's a complete paradox!

DJs and makers of electronic music were being railed back then for creating
and playing stuff that wasn't "real" music.  But hey, they embraced the
artform, and eventually brought it to the masses, and now it has a
celebrated history from it's early beginnings to the present.  If the
visionary thinkers of the dub sound systems of Jamaica and New York didn't
exist, what would the DJ be today?  What about dj Pierre and his Roland
tb-303, and then the explosion of the Acid House parties in the UK come the
late 80s, would the full moons on Bonny Doon, and later massives at homebase
have flourished?  Would the Playa be filled with dozens of sound systems
playing every type of electronic music the mind can imagine?

As connisseurs of electronic dance music, isn't it in our nature to push the
envelope, and look to technology to spread new noises and artforms?  Or have
we become so caught up in ourselves that we're content with the status quo?




On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>wrote:

> With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event (that I
> will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail on this vinyl
> elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am good friends with a
> BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout this "Vinyl only, duh bra
> if you're not playing records then you aren't really DJing..." line in the
> last year or so.  Totally blows my mind.
>
> To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then!
>
> Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun paying
> $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your entire bedroom of
> records that would fit on a rather modest hard drive, enjoy not having
> access to most of the cool tech that's come out for djing in the last 10
> years...  ...and most of all, have fun lugging your 30lb crate to every gig
> while I show up on my bike with an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All
> I know is, hip-hop heads have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record
> purists longer than any of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and
> ~90% of those djs use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.
>
> I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- but
> to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is just
> retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me about a party
> is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format over function.  I
> guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing things at the wall until
> something sticks.
>
> -George
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>
> To: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> Cc: SFRaves <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 12:41:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +
>  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)
>
> next friday!
>
> not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....
>
> http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> > Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making
> some
> > of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
> >
> > When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
> >>
> >> [ K O N T R O L ]
> >>
> >> minimal techno + avant house
> >> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> featuring from Berlin:
> >>
> >>
> >> MIKE SHANNON
> >>
> >> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
> >> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
> >>
> >> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
> >> integral member of the Canadian techno community
> >> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
> >> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
> >> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
> >> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
> >> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
> >> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
> >> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
> >> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
> >> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> and special guest from Minneapols:
> >>
> >>
> >> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
> >>
> >> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
> >> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
> >> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
> >> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
> >> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
> >> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
> >> of slowing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> with [KONTROL] residents:
> >>
> >>
> >> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
> >>
> >> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
> >>
> >> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/alland
> >>
> >> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> The ENDUP
> >> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
> >> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
> >> http://www.theendup.com
> >>
> >> FREE before 11pm!
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
> >> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
> >>
> >> Flyer front:
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
> >>
> >> Flyer back:
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
> >>
> >> Poster:
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> MIKE SHANNON
> >>
> >> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
> >>
> >> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself
> on
> >> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
> >> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
> >> recently
> >> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
> >> full
> >> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export -
> Richie
> >> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
> >> not
> >> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
> >> community,
> >> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
> >> behind
> >> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
> >> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future
> of
> >> the scene.
> >>
> >> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
> >> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
> >> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs.
> From
> >> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part
> to
> >> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R.,
> Juan
> >> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in
> his
> >> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno,
> he
> >> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
> >> Kitchener,
> >> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
> >> from
> >> across Europe.
> >>
> >> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
> >> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
> >> and
> >> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
> >> in
> >> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the
> more
> >> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
> >> into
> >> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile
> of
> >> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
> >> as
> >> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their
> distinctive
> >> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
> >> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international
> artists
> >> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
> >>
> >> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
> >> who
> >> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
> >> own
> >> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
> >> his
> >> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
> >> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and
> never
> >> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
> >> by
> >> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
> >> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that
> cemented
> >> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
> >> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
> >> chilled-out
> >> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
> >>
> >> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another
> chapter
> >> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
> >> having
> >> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
> >> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
> >> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
> >> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
> >> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
> >> personally.
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> LINKS:
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
> >> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon's discography:
> >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon's website:
> >> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
> >>
> >> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
> >> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> MUSIC:
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
> >> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> VIDEO:
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
> >>
> >> Interview with Mike Shannon
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> DUSTIN ZAHN
> >>
> >> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
> >> Dustin
> >> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
> >> future-partner
> >> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian
> explained
> >> to
> >> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
> >> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
> >> was
> >> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this
> was
> >> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
> >> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
> >> and
> >> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
> >>
> >> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
> >> level.
> >> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
> >> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
> >> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
> >>
> >> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal,
> dark,
> >> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
> >> in
> >> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
> >> Compound,
> >> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from
> many
> >> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
> >> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
> >> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
> >> Attack
> >> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
> >> mind
> >> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets
> which
> >> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
> >> not
> >> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
> >> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
> >>
> >> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons
> of
> >> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The
> Chains"
> >> on
> >> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on
> his
> >> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire,
> as
> >> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
> >> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
> >> name
> >> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> LINKS:
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn's website:
> >> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
> >> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn's discography:
> >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> MUSIC:
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
> >>
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> VIDEO:
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn in Italy
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________________________________________
> >>
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com
> >
> >
>
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This hour long documentary used to be posted on youtube (til BBC yanked it),
and it has some decent insight into the Acid House mania that swept the UK
the last year of the 80s.  I was lucky enough to grab it off a bit torrent
site this week.  It's an AVI file that's about 450mb in size.  I'm
considering uploading it to my friend's server if the demand is there.
Would any of you be interested in this?

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Exactly!




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When we look back at the beginnings of DJing and EDM, and compare it with the vinyl-only purists of the present, it's a complete paradox!  

DJs and makers of electronic music were being railed back then for creating and playing stuff that wasn't "real" music.  But hey, they embraced the artform, and eventually brought it to the masses, and now it has a celebrated history from it's early beginnings to the present.  If the visionary thinkers of the dub sound systems of Jamaica and New York didn't exist, what would the DJ be today?  What about dj Pierre and his Roland tb-303, and then the explosion of the Acid House parties in the UK come the late 80s, would the full moons on Bonny Doon, and later massives at homebase have flourished?  Would the Playa be filled with dozens of sound systems playing every type of electronic music the mind can imagine?    

As connisseurs of electronic dance music, isn't it in our nature to push the envelope, and look to technology to spread new noises and artforms?  Or have we become so caught up in ourselves that we're content with the status quo?  




On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com> wrote:

With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event (that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows my mind.

To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then!

Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those djs use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.

I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing things at the wall until something sticks.

-George





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next friday!

not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....

http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg





On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making some
> of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
>
> When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
>>
>> [ K O N T R O L ]
>>
>> minimal techno + avant house
>> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
>>
>>
>>
>> featuring from Berlin:
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
>> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
>>
>> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
>> integral member of the Canadian techno community
>> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
>> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
>> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
>> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
>> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
>> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
>> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
>> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
>> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> and special guest from Minneapols:
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
>>
>> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
>> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
>> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
>> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
>> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
>> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
>> of slowing.
>>
>>
>>
>> with [KONTROL] residents:
>>
>>
>> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
>> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
>>
>> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
>> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
>>
>> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
>> http://www.myspace.com/alland
>>
>> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
>> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> The ENDUP
>> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
>> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
>> http://www.theendup.com
>>
>> FREE before 11pm!
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
>>
>> Flyer front:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
>>
>> Flyer back:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
>>
>> Poster:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
>>
>> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
>> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
>> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
>> recently
>> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
>> full
>> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
>> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
>> not
>> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
>> community,
>> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
>> behind
>> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
>> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
>> the scene.
>>
>> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
>> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
>> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
>> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
>> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
>> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
>> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
>> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
>> Kitchener,
>> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
>> from
>> across Europe.
>>
>> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
>> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
>> and
>> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
>> in
>> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
>> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
>> into
>> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
>> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
>> as
>> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
>> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
>> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
>> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
>>
>> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
>> who
>> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
>> own
>> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
>> his
>> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
>> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
>> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
>> by
>> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
>> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
>> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
>> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
>> chilled-out
>> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
>>
>> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
>> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
>> having
>> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
>> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
>> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
>> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
>> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
>> personally.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
>>
>> Mike Shannon's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
>>
>> Mike Shannon's website:
>> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
>>
>> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
>> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
>> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
>>
>> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
>>
>> Interview with Mike Shannon
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN
>>
>> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
>> Dustin
>> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
>> future-partner
>> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained
>> to
>> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
>> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
>> was
>> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
>> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
>> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
>> and
>> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
>>
>> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
>> level.
>> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
>> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
>> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
>>
>> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
>> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
>> in
>> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
>> Compound,
>> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
>> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
>> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
>> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
>> Attack
>> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
>> mind
>> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
>> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
>> not
>> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
>> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
>>
>> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
>> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains"
>> on
>> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
>> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
>> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
>> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
>> name
>> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's website:
>> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
>>
>> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
>> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
>>
>> Dustin Zahn in Italy
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com
>
>

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as someone who still likes to fuck around with music but gave all his
technoes away to a good friend a couple years ago... thank you both. that's
good to hear.

-jason

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:14 AM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Exactly!
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> To: George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; SFRaves <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 2:08:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +
>  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)
>
> When we look back at the beginnings of DJing and EDM, and compare it with
> the vinyl-only purists of the present, it's a complete paradox!
>
> DJs and makers of electronic music were being railed back then for creating
> and playing stuff that wasn't "real" music.  But hey, they embraced the
> artform, and eventually brought it to the masses, and now it has a
> celebrated history from it's early beginnings to the present.  If the
> visionary thinkers of the dub sound systems of Jamaica and New York didn't
> exist, what would the DJ be today?  What about dj Pierre and his Roland
> tb-303, and then the explosion of the Acid House parties in the UK come the
> late 80s, would the full moons on Bonny Doon, and later massives at homebase
> have flourished?  Would the Playa be filled with dozens of sound systems
> playing every type of electronic music the mind can imagine?
>
> As connisseurs of electronic dance music, isn't it in our nature to push
> the envelope, and look to technology to spread new noises and artforms?  Or
> have we become so caught up in ourselves that we're content with the status
> quo?
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event (that I
> will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail on this vinyl
> elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am good friends with a
> BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout this "Vinyl only, duh bra
> if you're not playing records then you aren't really DJing..." line in the
> last year or so.  Totally blows my mind.
>
> To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then!
>
> Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun paying
> $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your entire bedroom of
> records that would fit on a rather modest hard drive, enjoy not having
> access to most of the cool tech that's come out for djing in the last 10
> years...  ...and most of all, have fun lugging your 30lb crate to every gig
> while I show up on my bike with an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All
> I know is, hip-hop heads have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record
> purists longer than any of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and
> ~90% of those djs use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.
>
> I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- but
> to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is just
> retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me about a party
> is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format over function.  I
> guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing things at the wall until
> something sticks.
>
> -George
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>
> To: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> Cc: SFRaves <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 12:41:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +
>  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)
>
> next friday!
>
> not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....
>
> http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> > Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making
> some
> > of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
> >
> > When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
> >>
> >> [ K O N T R O L ]
> >>
> >> minimal techno + avant house
> >> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> featuring from Berlin:
> >>
> >>
> >> MIKE SHANNON
> >>
> >> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
> >> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
> >>
> >> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
> >> integral member of the Canadian techno community
> >> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
> >> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
> >> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
> >> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
> >> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
> >> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
> >> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
> >> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
> >> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> and special guest from Minneapols:
> >>
> >>
> >> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
> >>
> >> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
> >> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
> >> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
> >> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
> >> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
> >> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
> >> of slowing.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> with [KONTROL] residents:
> >>
> >>
> >> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
> >>
> >> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
> >>
> >> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/alland
> >>
> >> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
> >> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> The ENDUP
> >> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
> >> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
> >> http://www.theendup.com
> >>
> >> FREE before 11pm!
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
> >> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
> >>
> >> Flyer front:
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
> >>
> >> Flyer back:
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
> >>
> >> Poster:
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> MIKE SHANNON
> >>
> >> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
> >>
> >> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself
> on
> >> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
> >> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
> >> recently
> >> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
> >> full
> >> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export -
> Richie
> >> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
> >> not
> >> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
> >> community,
> >> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
> >> behind
> >> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
> >> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future
> of
> >> the scene.
> >>
> >> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
> >> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
> >> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs.
> From
> >> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part
> to
> >> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R.,
> Juan
> >> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in
> his
> >> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno,
> he
> >> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
> >> Kitchener,
> >> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
> >> from
> >> across Europe.
> >>
> >> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
> >> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
> >> and
> >> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
> >> in
> >> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the
> more
> >> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
> >> into
> >> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile
> of
> >> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
> >> as
> >> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their
> distinctive
> >> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
> >> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international
> artists
> >> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
> >>
> >> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
> >> who
> >> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
> >> own
> >> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
> >> his
> >> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
> >> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and
> never
> >> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
> >> by
> >> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
> >> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that
> cemented
> >> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
> >> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
> >> chilled-out
> >> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
> >>
> >> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another
> chapter
> >> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
> >> having
> >> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
> >> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
> >> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
> >> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
> >> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
> >> personally.
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> LINKS:
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
> >> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon's discography:
> >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon's website:
> >> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
> >>
> >> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
> >> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> MUSIC:
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
> >> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> VIDEO:
> >>
> >> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
> >>
> >> Interview with Mike Shannon
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
> >>
> >>
> >> ____________________________________________________
> >>
> >>
> >> DUSTIN ZAHN
> >>
> >> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
> >> Dustin
> >> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
> >> future-partner
> >> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian
> explained
> >> to
> >> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
> >> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
> >> was
> >> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this
> was
> >> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
> >> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
> >> and
> >> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
> >>
> >> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
> >> level.
> >> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
> >> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
> >> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
> >>
> >> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal,
> dark,
> >> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
> >> in
> >> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
> >> Compound,
> >> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from
> many
> >> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
> >> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
> >> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
> >> Attack
> >> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
> >> mind
> >> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets
> which
> >> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
> >> not
> >> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
> >> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
> >>
> >> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons
> of
> >> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The
> Chains"
> >> on
> >> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on
> his
> >> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire,
> as
> >> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
> >> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
> >> name
> >> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> LINKS:
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn's website:
> >> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
> >> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn's discography:
> >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> MUSIC:
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
> >>
> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
> >>
> >>
> >> ===> VIDEO:
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
> >>
> >> Dustin Zahn in Italy
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
> >>
> >>
> >> ___________________________________________________
> >>
> >> http://www.kontrolsf.com
> >
> >
>
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For the record, playing my old vinyl still makes me warm and fuzzy inside.
However, without the ability to loop 4 different tracks at once, and cue up
samples and efx on demand, I'll be sticking to the laptop for now.   :)

Best part about vinyl:  it doesn't have an operating system!



On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 2:16 PM, d . k <dee.kay@gmail.com> wrote:

> as someone who still likes to fuck around with music but gave all his
> technoes away to a good friend a couple years ago... thank you both. that's
> good to hear.
>
> -jason
>
> On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:14 AM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Exactly!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> > To: George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; SFRaves <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 2:08:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8)
> +
> >  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)
> >
> > When we look back at the beginnings of DJing and EDM, and compare it with
> > the vinyl-only purists of the present, it's a complete paradox!
> >
> > DJs and makers of electronic music were being railed back then for
> creating
> > and playing stuff that wasn't "real" music.  But hey, they embraced the
> > artform, and eventually brought it to the masses, and now it has a
> > celebrated history from it's early beginnings to the present.  If the
> > visionary thinkers of the dub sound systems of Jamaica and New York
> didn't
> > exist, what would the DJ be today?  What about dj Pierre and his Roland
> > tb-303, and then the explosion of the Acid House parties in the UK come
> the
> > late 80s, would the full moons on Bonny Doon, and later massives at
> homebase
> > have flourished?  Would the Playa be filled with dozens of sound systems
> > playing every type of electronic music the mind can imagine?
> >
> > As connisseurs of electronic dance music, isn't it in our nature to push
> > the envelope, and look to technology to spread new noises and artforms?
>  Or
> > have we become so caught up in ourselves that we're content with the
> status
> > quo?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 1:55 PM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event (that I
> > will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail on this
> vinyl
> > elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am good friends with a
> > BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout this "Vinyl only, duh
> bra
> > if you're not playing records then you aren't really DJing..." line in
> the
> > last year or so.  Totally blows my mind.
> >
> > To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then!
> >
> > Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun
> paying
> > $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your entire bedroom
> of
> > records that would fit on a rather modest hard drive, enjoy not having
> > access to most of the cool tech that's come out for djing in the last 10
> > years...  ...and most of all, have fun lugging your 30lb crate to every
> gig
> > while I show up on my bike with an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.
>  All
> > I know is, hip-hop heads have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record
> > purists longer than any of us electronic music people can lay claim to,
> and
> > ~90% of those djs use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.
> >
> > I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- but
> > to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is just
> > retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me about a
> party
> > is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format over function.  I
> > guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing things at the wall
> until
> > something sticks.
> >
> > -George
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>
> > To: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> > Cc: SFRaves <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 12:41:17 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8)
> +
> >  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)
> >
> > next friday!
> >
> > not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....
> >
> > http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is
> playing
> > > Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making
> > some
> > > of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
> > >
> > > When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
> > >>
> > >> [ K O N T R O L ]
> > >>
> > >> minimal techno + avant house
> > >> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> featuring from Berlin:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> MIKE SHANNON
> > >>
> > >> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
> > >> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
> > >>
> > >> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
> > >> integral member of the Canadian techno community
> > >> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
> > >> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
> > >> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
> > >> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
> > >> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
> > >> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
> > >> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
> > >> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
> > >> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> and special guest from Minneapols:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
> > >>
> > >> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
> > >> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
> > >> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
> > >> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
> > >> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
> > >> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
> > >> of slowing.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> with [KONTROL] residents:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
> > >>
> > >> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
> > >>
> > >> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/alland
> > >>
> > >> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ____________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> The ENDUP
> > >> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
> > >> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
> > >> http://www.theendup.com
> > >>
> > >> FREE before 11pm!
> > >>
> > >> ____________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
> > >>
> > >> Flyer front:
> > >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
> > >>
> > >> Flyer back:
> > >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
> > >>
> > >> Poster:
> > >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ___________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> MIKE SHANNON
> > >>
> > >> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
> > >>
> > >> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for
> himself
> > on
> > >> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
> > >> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
> > >> recently
> > >> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
> > >> full
> > >> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export -
> > Richie
> > >> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that
> it's
> > >> not
> > >> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
> > >> community,
> > >> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
> > >> behind
> > >> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
> > >> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future
> > of
> > >> the scene.
> > >>
> > >> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
> > >> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable
> skills
> > >> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs.
> > From
> > >> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part
> > to
> > >> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R.,
> > Juan
> > >> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in
> > his
> > >> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things
> Techno,
> > he
> > >> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
> > >> Kitchener,
> > >> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge
> sounds
> > >> from
> > >> across Europe.
> > >>
> > >> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
> > >> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of
> producers
> > >> and
> > >> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label
> Cynosure
> > >> in
> > >> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the
> > more
> > >> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
> > >> into
> > >> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile
> > of
> > >> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers
> such
> > >> as
> > >> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their
> > distinctive
> > >> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
> > >> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international
> > artists
> > >> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
> > >>
> > >> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising
> artists
> > >> who
> > >> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines
> his
> > >> own
> > >> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or
> under
> > >> his
> > >> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
> > >> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and
> > never
> > >> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily
> proven
> > >> by
> > >> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
> > >> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that
> > cemented
> > >> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
> > >> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
> > >> chilled-out
> > >> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
> > >>
> > >> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another
> > chapter
> > >> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
> > >> having
> > >> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's
> a
> > >> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on
> new
> > >> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the
> new
> > >> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
> > >> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally
> and
> > >> personally.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ===> LINKS:
> > >>
> > >> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
> > >>
> > >> Mike Shannon's discography:
> > >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
> > >>
> > >> Mike Shannon's website:
> > >> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
> > >>
> > >> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
> > >> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ===> MUSIC:
> > >>
> > >> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
> > >> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
> > >>
> > >> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
> > >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ===> VIDEO:
> > >>
> > >> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
> > >>
> > >> Interview with Mike Shannon
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ____________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> DUSTIN ZAHN
> > >>
> > >> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
> > >> Dustin
> > >> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
> > >> future-partner
> > >> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian
> > explained
> > >> to
> > >> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
> > >> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what
> he
> > >> was
> > >> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this
> > was
> > >> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties
> and
> > >> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the
> decks
> > >> and
> > >> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
> > >>
> > >> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
> > >> level.
> > >> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year
> later
> > >> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating
> a
> > >> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
> > >>
> > >> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal,
> > dark,
> > >> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian
> Lehman
> > >> in
> > >> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
> > >> Compound,
> > >> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from
> > many
> > >> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing,
> Dave
> > >> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more.
> Together
> > >> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
> > >> Attack
> > >> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both
> the
> > >> mind
> > >> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets
> > which
> > >> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.
>  When
> > >> not
> > >> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
> > >> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
> > >>
> > >> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper
> echelons
> > of
> > >> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The
> > Chains"
> > >> on
> > >> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on
> > his
> > >> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for
> Dubfire,
> > as
> > >> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and
> Adam
> > >> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly
> a
> > >> name
> > >> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ===> LINKS:
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn's website:
> > >> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
> > >> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn's discography:
> > >> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ===> MUSIC:
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
> > >> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
> > >>
> > http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ===> VIDEO:
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
> > >>
> > >> Dustin Zahn in Italy
> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ___________________________________________________
> > >>
> > >> http://www.kontrolsf.com
> > >
> > >
> >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)

Back when I was at Live365 we had a booth a Jupiter confrence down in LA.  We decided that we would have this one guy Andy mix from CDs in our booth and broadcast it live from the show floor.  One of the speakers at the conference was Chuck D and he stopped by our booth where Andy was "mixing" (he couldn't really beat match) from a couple of 1st generation Pioneer CD DJs. Chuck made a few derogatory comments about the perversity of DJing from CDs and in particular the faux scratching effects and wandered on.  This would have been around 2000.  But I bet he's 100% digital now.

I've been buying vinyl since I was 15 and that was a fucking long time ago.  I bought a lot of my vinyl at Rather Ripped Records in Berkeley back in the day way before I was interested in dance music.  (look it up) But really I just can't justify it anymore.  There are some many tracks that you just can't find on vinyl now that are just a click away.  And OpenMind shut down finally...

Yes I'm pretty much done with the black crack.  I think.

Peter



----- Original Message ----
From: George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>
To: Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com>; Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 1:55:05 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)

With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event (that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows my mind.

To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then! 

Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those djs use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.

I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing things at the wall until something sticks.

-George




----- Original Message ----
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] bsp: Saturday! [KONTROL] w/ Mike Shannon (Plus 8) +  Dustin Zahn live (Drumcode)

next friday!

not us throwing it, but sure to be a blast....

http://www.auralismrecords.com/CLINT/ALLVINYL_EFLYER_500.jpg





On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm torn... I didn't realize Kontrol was this Saturday!  2562 is playing
> Surya Dub's 2yr anniversary party the same night, and he's been making some
> of my fav dubstep-dub-techno of the moment    : /
>
> When's the next big party at Tehama greg?!?!
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Greg Bird <bird415@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Saturday, February 7th, 2008
>>
>> [ K O N T R O L ]
>>
>> minimal techno + avant house
>> every 1st Saturday at The Endup
>>
>>
>>
>> featuring from Berlin:
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (Cynosure . Plus 8 . Wagon Repair)
>> (Dumb-Unit . Force Inc . Num . ~scape)
>>
>> A DJ since age 12, Mike Shannon had been an
>> integral member of the Canadian techno community
>> centered out of Montreal and a respected player on
>> the international scene for over a decade prior to his
>> recent move to Berlin. Whether it's putting out jackin',
>> quirky minimal techno and house on his own
>> Cynosure label, or producing acclaimed music on
>> some of the world's finest labels such as his recent
>> Memory Tree album on Plus8, Mike's total submersion
>> into the techno world is a reflection of his passion
>> and dedication to sharing great music with the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> and special guest from Minneapols:
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN - live pa
>>
>> (Enemy . Drumcode . Droid Recordings . Rekids)
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's distinctive brand of dark and heady
>> peak-hour techno has quickly carved him a place
>> amongst the best in the business. 2008 was a huge
>> year for this talented young artist, and with a stellar
>> string of releases on Drumcode, Droid Recordings,
>> and his own Enemy Records, 2009 shows no signs
>> of slowing.
>>
>>
>>
>> with [KONTROL] residents:
>>
>>
>> NIKOLA BAYTALA  (S.W.A.T. . Robsoul . Junior Boys Own)
>> http://www.myspace.com/nikolaswat
>>
>> CRAIG KUNA  (Platform . ESDJCO)
>> http://www.myspace.com/craig1
>>
>> ALLAND BYALLO  (Nightlight . Auralism . Leibe*Detail)
>> http://www.myspace.com/alland
>>
>> SAMMY D  (Classic . Dirtybird . Utensil)
>> http://www.myspace.com/sammydoyle
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> The ENDUP
>> 401 6th St @ Harrison, SF
>> 10pm - 6am / 21+ / $15 til 2am
>> http://www.theendup.com
>>
>> FREE before 11pm!
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> [KONTROL] on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/kontrolsf
>>
>> Flyer front:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44F.jpg
>>
>> Flyer back:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44B.jpg
>>
>> Poster:
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/K44/K44P.jpg
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> MIKE SHANNON
>>
>> (bio courtesy of residentadvisor.net)
>>
>> It's been 10 years since Mike Shannon started making a name for himself on
>> the international techno scene as a DJ, producer and label owner. Now,
>> having relocated to Berlin from Valencia via Montreal in 2007 he's
>> recently
>> crowned his first decade of active service with Memory Tree, his third
>> full
>> length to date, and his debut for another notable Canadian export - Richie
>> Hawtin's Plus 8 Records. Over the years, Mike has well proven that it's
>> not
>> just his music that makes him such a valuable asset to the techno
>> community,
>> it's his total dedication to the cause. Whether finding him standing
>> behind
>> a record shop counter or searching out new talent for his labels, it's
>> always been about bringing people together and investing in the future of
>> the scene.
>>
>> Mike first got the vinyl bug at the tender age of 12, buying house and
>> techno tunes at Play de Record in Toronto and by 15 his turntable skills
>> were already landing him gigs at local underground parties and clubs. From
>> then on, Mike's musical world expanded rapidly thanks in no small part to
>> Detroit's influential WJLB radio station which turned him on to U.R., Juan
>> Atkins and Kevin Saunderson - influences that still play a big role in his
>> approach to music today. To satisfy his appetite for all things Techno, he
>> was soon managing the orders at Speed Records in his hometown of
>> Kitchener,
>> Ontario where he continued his education; importing cutting edge sounds
>> from
>> across Europe.
>>
>> Throughout that time, Mike was out DJing and clubbing from Detroit to
>> Toronto, making connections and building up a solid network of producers
>> and
>> artists, which led to the inevitable formation of his own label Cynosure
>> in
>> 1999. A couple of years later, he teamed up with Jeff Milligan on the more
>> experimental Revolver Canada imprint. Both labels have since developed
>> into
>> highly respected and trusted sources, subsequently raising the profile of
>> Canada's electronic music scene by providing then unknown producers such
>> as
>> Akufen and Deadbeat an international platform to spread their distinctive
>> sound throughout the world. Beyond developing homegrown talent, both
>> imprints continue to invite an inspired selection of international artists
>> including Pier Bucci, Monolake and Brett Johnson to name a few.
>>
>> For Mike it's always been a question of choosing uncompromising artists
>> who
>> possess a unique and original voice - an attitude that also defines his
>> own
>> work whether recording as John Shananigans, The Sunaj Assassins or under
>> his
>> own name. There's a distinctive feel to his music that's both dark and
>> soulful, that stays true to his roots while embracing the future and never
>> fails to deliver a flurry of kick-ass, funk infected beats easily proven
>> by
>> a volley of timeless singles over the years and his two previous full
>> lengths. Take 2001's Slight of Hand on Force Inc - an album that cemented
>> his reputation as an up-and-coming Minimal Techno producer and 2005's
>> Possible Conclusions to Stories That Never End - a collection of
>> chilled-out
>> Electronica inspired by his musical odyssey through out Chile in 2003.
>>
>> Mike's recent move to Berlin represents the fulfillment of another chapter
>> in his musical career and with so many influential Canadian producers
>> having
>> taken up residence in the German capital over the last few years, it's a
>> chance to hook up with old friends again and start collaborating on new
>> plans and ideas, just like the old days. Then of course there's the new
>> album, the accompanying remix projects and the immediate matter of
>> fatherhood to make 2008 something of a milestone both professionally and
>> personally.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Mike Shannon/Cynosure on MySpace:
>> http://www.myspace.com/cynrecordings
>>
>> Mike Shannon's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/Mike%20Shannon
>>
>> Mike Shannon's website:
>> http://www.cynosure-recordings.com/
>>
>> Review of Memory Tree w/ music samples:
>> http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/mike-shannon-memory-tree/
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Watergate, Berlin  (streaming)
>> http://www.cynbookings.com/?p=6#artistaudio
>>
>> Mike Shannon - Live @ DEMF - Underground Stage  05.28.05
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Mike_Shannon_@_DEMF_2005.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Mike Shannon @ Cityfox, Zurich
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9OkJ-yKst0
>>
>> Interview with Mike Shannon
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBTYzTjZIX8
>>
>>
>> ____________________________________________________
>>
>>
>> DUSTIN ZAHN
>>
>> After being influenced by mix-tapes of artists such as Richie Hawtin,
>> Dustin
>> began writing music purely for fun. Shortly after, Dustin met
>> future-partner
>> Ian Lehman, who was established in the mid-west rave scene. Ian explained
>> to
>> him that music similar to his was played at parties called raves. Ian
>> invited him to one of his shows and Dustin took his offer to see what he
>> was
>> talking about. After being exposed to just one party, Dustin knew this was
>> his future. Dustin started doing a Live PA at various local parties and
>> quickly became a favorite. After a year, Dustin stepped up to the decks
>> and
>> won just as much respect as he did with his productions.
>>
>> In early 2001, Dustin and Ian both agreed to take things to the next
>> level.
>> They put a halt on bookings and concentrated on the studio. A year later
>> their work had emerged onto vinyl and all over the internet, creating a
>> serious buzz. Abiotic was born, and the duo formed The Attack People.
>>
>> A few words can easily describe Dustin Zahn's style: moody, tribal, dark,
>> and hypnotic. Since Dustin co-founded Abiotic Recordings with Ian Lehman
>> in
>> 2001, he's finished projects for labels such as Invasion, Mankind,
>> Compound,
>> GFR, Humanoid, and many others. His tracks have received support from many
>> of techno's top DJs, including Adam Beyer, Ben Sims, Chris Liebing, Dave
>> Clarke, Umek, Cari Lekebusch, Patrik Skoog, and countless more. Together
>> with partner Ian Lehman they perform a Live PA under the moniker "The
>> Attack
>> People," a project concentrating on moody, futuristic funk for both the
>> mind
>> and dance floor. Zahn is also known for his diverse 3-table DJ sets which
>> have brought him all over the U.S., to Europe, and South America.  When
>> not
>> in the studio or DJing around the globe, he also co-promotes some of
>> Minneapolis' biggest techno parties.
>>
>> In recent years Dustin has made a steady ascent into the upper echelons of
>> techno producers as a solo artist, with releases like "Moving The Chains"
>> on
>> Drumcode and "Analog God" on Droid Recordings, as well as many more on his
>> own label, Enemy Records.  Future releases include a remix for Dubfire, as
>> well as tracks on Paco Osuna's Mindshake, Radio Slave's Rekids, and Adam
>> Beyer's Truesoul labels.  Clearly on a roll, Dustin Zahn is certainly a
>> name
>> the techno world will be hearing much more of.
>>
>>
>> ===> LINKS:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's website:
>> http://www.enemyrecords.com/
>>
>> Dustin Zahn on MySpace (with music samples):
>> http://www.myspace.com/dustinzahn
>>
>> Dustin Zahn's discography:
>> http://www.discogs.com/artist/dustin%20zahn
>>
>>
>> ===> MUSIC:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Summer in Minneapolis (DJ promo mix, June 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_Summer_in_Mpls.mp3
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - From My Basement to Yours (DJ promo mix, February 2008)
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com/AUD/Dustin_Zahn_-_From_My_Basement_to_Yours.mp3
>>
>>
>> ===> VIDEO:
>>
>> Dustin Zahn - Live @ Foundation Nightclub, Minneapolis  07.29.08
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZxplvMZ3os
>>
>> Dustin Zahn in Italy
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGuvWeYXTsE
>>
>>
>> ___________________________________________________
>>
>> http://www.kontrolsf.com
>
>

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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: TONIGHT2.6.09: JUNGLECODE: KLUTE: SAGE: BICOLAS:MCDUH

i seriously haven't been out since well, Dave died 'cause I've been like
in mondo yucky since, but i'm gettin' a lil better now & I need a
dancefloor so bad... i decided to go to this last minute & figured i
should et out some quick BSPs on the lists... so all you SFR Jungle heads
dance with me!!  ok?
-------------------

FRIDAY 2.6.2009 : junglecode : KLUTE : SAGE: MC DUH : SF


KLUTE
[ Commercial Suicide : UK ]

Our first 2009 show will stay true to our original charter: 100%
World-Class Drum & Bass.
We've been trying to book this DJ/Producer for some time now, and the
planets finally line up to bring us KLUTE, the boss from Commercial
Suicide, all the way from London, UK. This will surely be a stormer!


SAGE
[ Phylum : Milk : UK ]

It's been a while since Sage graced the junglecode decks in San Francisco
and we're proud to bring her back for another go in 2009.
We'll also have the finest local SF talent to bring the heat starting at
10PM so don't be late.


BICOLAS
[ Skills : SF ]

and running the mic:
MC DUH
[ Shelter : Crystal Palace FC : SF ]

DATE: FRIDAY, FEB 6, 2009
TIME: 10PM to 4:00AM
LOCATION: FAT CITY - 314 11th St. @ Folsom , San Francisco
TICKETS: $15 at the door.


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http://digg.com/comedy/Risque_Durex_Commercial
(They've even got "outtakes")


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I just started the upload about 5 minutes ago, it should be done within the
next half hour.  You may need to install a certain codec to watch the movie,
I was able to get it for free.  Enjoy!

http://www.acidtotem.net/videos/summerofrave.avi   (471mb)

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Subject: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology

rory's thread below about trent reznor's involvement in ARGs has given 
me an idea ...

has anybody participated in ARGs (alternative reality games)?  i've 
heard about these and the concept is really crazy. its like the closest 
thing to the movie 'the game' with sean penn and michael douglas (ok 
movie, good concept). i've heard of major corporations take part in 
stuff like this by giving keys to audi cars, jumping into speed boats 
and if the people participate in this get really heavy into it, they 
start having other participants call each other to set each other up 
meetings to create counter intelligence and CIA type games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_games

seems like some sort of thing that ravers might just be into.. maybe 
having ARGs to get to a party? sort of a fun map point scavenger hunt. 
or chalking to get to wifi points in the city to get info or keys for 
coded information and free music for an event, like mix cds for artists 
and such. i would love to see the journey to a party become half the fun 
of the experience or maybe even the entire experience. who knows? all i 
know is that the standard for raves, while it has always been awesome, 
hasn't changed in (god) 20 years. since technology and the people 
involved in the scene have evolved technologically as well it would be 
fun to incorporate some technology into the aspect of raves again.

maybe it is time to see some more craziness and inventive ideas, 
especially if every one has a basic computer in their pocket such as a 
cell phone or an i phone.. maybe incorporate binary code into a map 
point like graff artist invader has done (or kanye west has done to bite 
him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5YFO4Sy0E

maybe we can incorporate something into college radio? mess with you 
tube, ebay or mess with google earth... or just do something 
interesting. there's so much potential for something awesome to happen 
since so many of us are into IT and design and all sorts of technology. 
it seems like a no brainer to let this aspect creep into our party scene.

maybe instead of one party, there can be several small ones and one fee 
for all as long as the stamp and or wrist tags are valid and have good 
security they can be valid for all events. i'm sure there are little 
locations that could work out and if one is busted the many other party 
cells could survive.

i don't know.. just think of fun things and let's do it. *i'm bored*. 
let's collaborate and have a good time. i'm down to donate ideas, time, 
sound and a space if anyone wants to throw down.

respecty,
sean ocean

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FAKE WRITING STYLE 101 FOR PauL-E-wOg

Do's:
1) Choose a style and stick with it.
2) Use appropriate linguistic style to the audience you are pandering too.
3) Use punctuation.
4) Sign your name. Your real name.
5) Use this lesson if you have to live in separate worlds (like work,
work-friends, hobbies, etc). It only ever works out if you are real, and
just choosing to use the appropriate lingo at the appropriate time. You
would not want to talk to your drinking buddies like you talk to your boss.


Dont's:
1) Try to use teenage slang.
2) Use vocabulary that does not fit with 1).
3) Do not leave out all punctuation in an effort to create a style. It is a
giveaway, especially if you are able to use 12th grade adjectives.
4) Make up a name that is fake. If you have to create a fake ID to join a
community, then you are either someone who is banned, there to promote your
real self, there for ill-intent, or about to hate on someone.
5) If you do 4), you are lame. If you cannot say what you want to as
yourself, then you are not a self at all.



"Wow.. I am in awe of the success of it all and how the novelty ceases to
wear off"

"Omg I was so lucky"

"and omg that was incredible"

"I can't even count how many parties I went to"

"I wish I could like take some"

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology

Interesting ideas.  I've never played an ARG and generally have no interest in them, but I do like the idea of adding some mystery or even puzzles to an event...



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Subject: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology

rory's thread below about trent reznor's involvement in ARGs has given me an idea ...

has anybody participated in ARGs (alternative reality games)?  i've heard about these and the concept is really crazy. its like the closest thing to the movie 'the game' with sean penn and michael douglas (ok movie, good concept). i've heard of major corporations take part in stuff like this by giving keys to audi cars, jumping into speed boats and if the people participate in this get really heavy into it, they start having other participants call each other to set each other up meetings to create counter intelligence and CIA type games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_games

seems like some sort of thing that ravers might just be into.. maybe having ARGs to get to a party? sort of a fun map point scavenger hunt. or chalking to get to wifi points in the city to get info or keys for coded information and free music for an event, like mix cds for artists and such. i would love to see the journey to a party become half the fun of the experience or maybe even the entire experience. who knows? all i know is that the standard for raves, while it has always been awesome, hasn't changed in (god) 20 years. since technology and the people involved in the scene have evolved technologically as well it would be fun to incorporate some technology into the aspect of raves again.

maybe it is time to see some more craziness and inventive ideas, especially if every one has a basic computer in their pocket such as a cell phone or an i phone.. maybe incorporate binary code into a map point like graff artist invader has done (or kanye west has done to bite him): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5YFO4Sy0E

maybe we can incorporate something into college radio? mess with you tube, ebay or mess with google earth... or just do something interesting. there's so much potential for something awesome to happen since so many of us are into IT and design and all sorts of technology. it seems like a no brainer to let this aspect creep into our party scene.

maybe instead of one party, there can be several small ones and one fee for all as long as the stamp and or wrist tags are valid and have good security they can be valid for all events. i'm sure there are little locations that could work out and if one is busted the many other party cells could survive.

i don't know.. just think of fun things and let's do it. *i'm bored*. let's collaborate and have a good time. i'm down to donate ideas, time, sound and a space if anyone wants to throw down.

respecty,
sean ocean

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I found this 604 playlist on You Tube. There are like 140 tracks.
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thats very beautiful..
thanks for sharing :)

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I found this 604 playlist on You Tube. There are like 140 tracks.
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THanks for that, love psytrance and goa. If you're looking for parties 
in the northbay, check out isratrance.com click forums then click north 
america.

peace
dreamdust

Adriana wrote:
> thats very beautiful..
> thanks for sharing :)
>
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> I found this 604 playlist on You Tube. There are like 140 tracks.
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On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, George Cochrane wrote:
-&e->With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event 
-&e->(that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail 
-&e->on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am 
-&e->good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout 
-&e->this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you 
-&e->aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows 
-&e->my mind.

It's a choice, not a holy war.  I know how to play off cds, I know how 
Traktor works, I helped develop a product that works the way FS or Serrato 
do, and um...

Vinyl is more fun for me.  More fun to watch, more fun to select, and 
beautifully primal.  It won't last forever, I know it's dying (well, at 
least to some degree it already has), and if people want to throw an 
occasional event that pimps it PLEASE DO.  It's a neat thing!

It's like saying a fist is an inferior weapon to a gun, therefore we 
should ban boxing...

-&e->To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then! 
-&e->
-&e->Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun 
-&e->paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your 
-&e->entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard 
-&e->drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come 
-&e->out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun 
-&e->lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with 
-&e->an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads 
-&e->have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any 
-&e->of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those djs 
-&e->use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.

Wedding DJs existed before hip hop and we're not going to view them as a 
high point of the art, are we?  I don't think history = validity here.  
Oh, also, I *wish* my crate weighed 30pounds.  Try more like 60+ for my 
cubic foot of lameness (which I almost need to bring if I'm hotmixing).

-&e->I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- 
-&e->but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is 

You still ride a fixie?  You still cherish your tube amps, or your vintage 
bass or mic pre's or that silly synth you could easily replace with a 
plugin?  C'mon, in every "cool-guy fetishist" thing, there's something 
valid.

-&e->just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me 
-&e->about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format 
-&e->over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing 
-&e->things at the wall until something sticks.

No, it means a bunch of cranks with lots of old vinyl want to try throwing 
parties where they play the way they remember it, when it seemed DJing was 
more of an artform.  I know I fall into this camp.  Maybe it's the 
thousands I pumped into vinyl, maybe it's the fact that moving where I 
live is nearly impossible for me thanks to this collection, maybe it's 
disillusionment with the fact that it's never going to be that way 
again... I don't think there's much "cool-guy fetishism" in my defense of 
it.  It was more fun to watch, more fun to do, and helped foster a level 
of trust in the artform as almost everything was visible and right there.

It used to be, maybe 10 years ago that it was an unspeakable crime to 
find out a DJ was "playing off a DAT", but a lot of the DJs playing "sets" 
I've seen could take a bullet to the face while playing, and all that 
would change is there would be a lot less annoying filter sweeps, poorly 
timed cuts and cheerleading going on.  DJing has been wholly democratized, 
almost anyone with iTunes or WMP pours over sets of music, anyone who can 
click a space bar to the beat can beatmatch now, and despite all this 
awesome potential, DJing as an artform has taken a bit of a dive in my 
opinion.

I don't expect everyone to agree, and I don't expect every event to be 
promoted as "Vinyl Only", but let the old curmedgeons have their fun with 
their mystical black crack, their analog sound systems, their old school 
Rane mixers, while passing out cassettes of their mixes, etc.

Andy 'Now if I could just find a good old fashioned rotary cell phone' W

p.s. if you search SFR archives you can find me passionately arguing a 
point similar to yours a few years back George, but sadly time has brought 
us all the trappings of technology and it sorta ruined DJing as a 
performance medium to a degree as far as I'm concerned.  As far as fun to 
watchness goes, and being able to connect with what people are doing... 
vinyl > live pa on outboard gear > cds > anything involving a laptop.  
Seeing media change helps, seeing non-modal (same button does same thing 
all the time, like a key on a piano vs. say, a mouse click) buttons helps, 
seeing people dig through boxes or books of cds lets you know they are 
"searching"... on a laptop, they might be playing their premixed set out 
of iTunes and checking their stocks... you just don't know.

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Well said Andy, well said.

As a pro-vinyl guy, well said.

-John


AndyW wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, George Cochrane wrote:
> -&e->With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event 
> -&e->(that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail 
> -&e->on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am 
> -&e->good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout 
> -&e->this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you 
> -&e->aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows 
> -&e->my mind.
>
> It's a choice, not a holy war.  I know how to play off cds, I know how 
> Traktor works, I helped develop a product that works the way FS or Serrato 
> do, and um...
>
> Vinyl is more fun for me.  More fun to watch, more fun to select, and 
> beautifully primal.  It won't last forever, I know it's dying (well, at 
> least to some degree it already has), and if people want to throw an 
> occasional event that pimps it PLEASE DO.  It's a neat thing!
>
> It's like saying a fist is an inferior weapon to a gun, therefore we 
> should ban boxing...
>
> -&e->To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then! 
> -&e->
> -&e->Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun 
> -&e->paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your 
> -&e->entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard 
> -&e->drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come 
> -&e->out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun 
> -&e->lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with 
> -&e->an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads 
> -&e->have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any 
> -&e->of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those djs 
> -&e->use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.
>
> Wedding DJs existed before hip hop and we're not going to view them as a 
> high point of the art, are we?  I don't think history = validity here.  
> Oh, also, I *wish* my crate weighed 30pounds.  Try more like 60+ for my 
> cubic foot of lameness (which I almost need to bring if I'm hotmixing).
>
> -&e->I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- 
> -&e->but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is 
>
> You still ride a fixie?  You still cherish your tube amps, or your vintage 
> bass or mic pre's or that silly synth you could easily replace with a 
> plugin?  C'mon, in every "cool-guy fetishist" thing, there's something 
> valid.
>
> -&e->just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me 
> -&e->about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format 
> -&e->over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing 
> -&e->things at the wall until something sticks.
>
> No, it means a bunch of cranks with lots of old vinyl want to try throwing 
> parties where they play the way they remember it, when it seemed DJing was 
> more of an artform.  I know I fall into this camp.  Maybe it's the 
> thousands I pumped into vinyl, maybe it's the fact that moving where I 
> live is nearly impossible for me thanks to this collection, maybe it's 
> disillusionment with the fact that it's never going to be that way 
> again... I don't think there's much "cool-guy fetishism" in my defense of 
> it.  It was more fun to watch, more fun to do, and helped foster a level 
> of trust in the artform as almost everything was visible and right there.
>
> It used to be, maybe 10 years ago that it was an unspeakable crime to 
> find out a DJ was "playing off a DAT", but a lot of the DJs playing "sets" 
> I've seen could take a bullet to the face while playing, and all that 
> would change is there would be a lot less annoying filter sweeps, poorly 
> timed cuts and cheerleading going on.  DJing has been wholly democratized, 
> almost anyone with iTunes or WMP pours over sets of music, anyone who can 
> click a space bar to the beat can beatmatch now, and despite all this 
> awesome potential, DJing as an artform has taken a bit of a dive in my 
> opinion.
>
> I don't expect everyone to agree, and I don't expect every event to be 
> promoted as "Vinyl Only", but let the old curmedgeons have their fun with 
> their mystical black crack, their analog sound systems, their old school 
> Rane mixers, while passing out cassettes of their mixes, etc.
>
> Andy 'Now if I could just find a good old fashioned rotary cell phone' W
>
> p.s. if you search SFR archives you can find me passionately arguing a 
> point similar to yours a few years back George, but sadly time has brought 
> us all the trappings of technology and it sorta ruined DJing as a 
> performance medium to a degree as far as I'm concerned.  As far as fun to 
> watchness goes, and being able to connect with what people are doing... 
> vinyl > live pa on outboard gear > cds > anything involving a laptop.  
> Seeing media change helps, seeing non-modal (same button does same thing 
> all the time, like a key on a piano vs. say, a mouse click) buttons helps, 
> seeing people dig through boxes or books of cds lets you know they are 
> "searching"... on a laptop, they might be playing their premixed set out 
> of iTunes and checking their stocks... you just don't know.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Vinyl, etc.

Good points, monsieur.  

Bingbong!



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Subject: [sfraves] Vinyl, etc.


On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, George Cochrane wrote:
-&e->With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event 
-&e->(that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail 
-&e->on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am 
-&e->good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout 
-&e->this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you 
-&e->aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows 
-&e->my mind.

It's a choice, not a holy war.  I know how to play off cds, I know how 
Traktor works, I helped develop a product that works the way FS or Serrato 
do, and um...

Vinyl is more fun for me.  More fun to watch, more fun to select, and 
beautifully primal.  It won't last forever, I know it's dying (well, at 
least to some degree it already has), and if people want to throw an 
occasional event that pimps it PLEASE DO.  It's a neat thing!

It's like saying a fist is an inferior weapon to a gun, therefore we 
should ban boxing...

-&e->To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then! 
-&e->
-&e->Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun 
-&e->paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your 
-&e->entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard 
-&e->drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come 
-&e->out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun 
-&e->lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with 
-&e->an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads 
-&e->have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any 
-&e->of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those djs 
-&e->use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.

Wedding DJs existed before hip hop and we're not going to view them as a 
high point of the art, are we?  I don't think history = validity here.  
Oh, also, I *wish* my crate weighed 30pounds.  Try more like 60+ for my 
cubic foot of lameness (which I almost need to bring if I'm hotmixing).

-&e->I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms, too- 
-&e->but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is 

You still ride a fixie?  You still cherish your tube amps, or your vintage 
bass or mic pre's or that silly synth you could easily replace with a 
plugin?  C'mon, in every "cool-guy fetishist" thing, there's something 
valid.

-&e->just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me 
-&e->about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format 
-&e->over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep throwing 
-&e->things at the wall until something sticks.

No, it means a bunch of cranks with lots of old vinyl want to try throwing 
parties where they play the way they remember it, when it seemed DJing was 
more of an artform.  I know I fall into this camp.  Maybe it's the 
thousands I pumped into vinyl, maybe it's the fact that moving where I 
live is nearly impossible for me thanks to this collection, maybe it's 
disillusionment with the fact that it's never going to be that way 
again... I don't think there's much "cool-guy fetishism" in my defense of 
it.  It was more fun to watch, more fun to do, and helped foster a level 
of trust in the artform as almost everything was visible and right there.

It used to be, maybe 10 years ago that it was an unspeakable crime to 
find out a DJ was "playing off a DAT", but a lot of the DJs playing "sets" 
I've seen could take a bullet to the face while playing, and all that 
would change is there would be a lot less annoying filter sweeps, poorly 
timed cuts and cheerleading going on.  DJing has been wholly democratized, 
almost anyone with iTunes or WMP pours over sets of music, anyone who can 
click a space bar to the beat can beatmatch now, and despite all this 
awesome potential, DJing as an artform has taken a bit of a dive in my 
opinion.

I don't expect everyone to agree, and I don't expect every event to be 
promoted as "Vinyl Only", but let the old curmedgeons have their fun with 
their mystical black crack, their analog sound systems, their old school 
Rane mixers, while passing out cassettes of their mixes, etc.

Andy 'Now if I could just find a good old fashioned rotary cell phone' W

p.s. if you search SFR archives you can find me passionately arguing a 
point similar to yours a few years back George, but sadly time has brought 
us all the trappings of technology and it sorta ruined DJing as a 
performance medium to a degree as far as I'm concerned.  As far as fun to 
watchness goes, and being able to connect with what people are doing... 
vinyl > live pa on outboard gear > cds > anything involving a laptop.  
Seeing media change helps, seeing non-modal (same button does same thing 
all the time, like a key on a piano vs. say, a mouse click) buttons helps, 
seeing people dig through boxes or books of cds lets you know they are 
"searching"... on a laptop, they might be playing their premixed set out 
of iTunes and checking their stocks... you just don't know.

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Subject: [sfraves] Fw: [Predawn] Stillwind 1972-2009 - please forward

Some of you may remember Stillwind from the late '90s here on 
SFR....Stargaze, Fuz-E, etc....

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, steveo@steveo.net <steveo@steveo.net> wrote:

> From: steveo@steveo.net <steveo@steveo.net>
> Subject: [Predawn] Stillwind 1972-2009 - please forward
> To: predawn@cloudfactory.org
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:19 AM

> It was just 'Jason' if you met some skater kid in a
> parking lot in the
> foothills in 1985.
>
> 'Faceman' was tbe mod-punk that came from
> Sacramento in the years
> thereafter
>
> 'Private Borenstein' was the meta-rebellious
> intellectual serving our
> country in Ansbach 1993.
>
> It was 'Stillwind' if you met an enlightened soul
> in San Francisco in
> '98...
> or maybe 'DJ Stillwind' if you knew him by his
> funky shade of trance.
>
> Steeween-San was tbe crazy American that chased the sunset
> west in search
> of a pretty girl, a dream job, and the world's finest
> Sashimi...
>
> DJ Michael Alamode was the arcade avatar that Japanese
> gamers came to know
> and love.
>
> To me he was always just "bro".
>
> He was my best friend.
>
> Stillwind died by the hand of nature on Sunday February
> 8th, 2009.
>
> In the Fall of 2008 - a few months after Mr . Wind took
> Bill and I on an
> epic snowboarding trip to Hokkaido - he miraculously
> survived an abdominal
> aneurysm. He thereafter learned of further arterial
> weaknesses and what was
> likely a genetic predisposition. Stillwind's girlfriend
> and his mom showed
> incredible care and compassion in his recovery from that
> surgery. He told
> me in December that he would accept the risk of sudden
> death - interrupting
> a life fully lived, rather than undergo a surgery that
> would have likely
> left him incapable of such. The last time we spoke, he
> seemed to be living
> that life as he wished.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Predawn@lists.cloudfactory.org
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Fw: [Predawn] Stillwind 1972-2009 - please forward


Shit.  That makes three friends who died this year (for me).

More info:
http://www.bemanistyle.com/index.php/news/mata-ne-stillwind-1232

RIP Stillwind.  You'll be missed.

m

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--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org> wrote:

> From: Terry Estioko <terry@hyperreal.org>
> Subject: [sfraves] Fw: [Predawn] Stillwind 1972-2009 - please forward
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 12:26 PM
> Some of you may remember Stillwind from the late '90s
> here on 
> SFR....Stargaze, Fuz-E, etc....
> 
> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, steveo@steveo.net
> <steveo@steveo.net> wrote:
> 
> > From: steveo@steveo.net <steveo@steveo.net>
> > Subject: [Predawn] Stillwind 1972-2009 - please
> forward
> > To: predawn@cloudfactory.org
> > Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 4:19 AM
> 
> > It was just 'Jason' if you met some skater kid
> in a
> > parking lot in the
> > foothills in 1985.
> >
> > 'Faceman' was tbe mod-punk that came from
> > Sacramento in the years
> > thereafter
> >
> > 'Private Borenstein' was the meta-rebellious
> > intellectual serving our
> > country in Ansbach 1993.
> >
> > It was 'Stillwind' if you met an enlightened
> soul
> > in San Francisco in
> > '98...
> > or maybe 'DJ Stillwind' if you knew him by his
> > funky shade of trance.
> >
> > Steeween-San was tbe crazy American that chased the
> sunset
> > west in search
> > of a pretty girl, a dream job, and the world's
> finest
> > Sashimi...
> >
> > DJ Michael Alamode was the arcade avatar that Japanese
> > gamers came to know
> > and love.
> >
> > To me he was always just "bro".
> >
> > He was my best friend.
> >
> > Stillwind died by the hand of nature on Sunday
> February
> > 8th, 2009.
> >
> > In the Fall of 2008 - a few months after Mr . Wind
> took
> > Bill and I on an
> > epic snowboarding trip to Hokkaido - he miraculously
> > survived an abdominal
> > aneurysm. He thereafter learned of further arterial
> > weaknesses and what was
> > likely a genetic predisposition. Stillwind's
> girlfriend
> > and his mom showed
> > incredible care and compassion in his recovery from
> that
> > surgery. He told
> > me in December that he would accept the risk of sudden
> > death - interrupting
> > a life fully lived, rather than undergo a surgery that
> > would have likely
> > left him incapable of such. The last time we spoke, he
> > seemed to be living
> > that life as he wished.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Predawn mailing list
> > Predawn@lists.cloudfactory.org
> > http://lists.cloudfactory.org/mailman/listinfo/predawn
> 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] 604 Playlist from Youtube 140 tracks

psychill has a good place when i'm on an earthy tangent. but i like my 
downtempo a little more technical. like richard h kirk. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1QJIskfNwc

november x-ray mexico off of virtual state is a personal classic.
http://www.last.fm/music/Richard+H.+Kirk/_/November+X+Ray+Mexico
nobody makes d-tempo like this anymore and yet it still remains timeless.

sean.

Paul Simcovich-Hayden wrote:
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> I found this 604 playlist on You Tube. There are like 140 tracks.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2gPtwyXK6M&feature=PlayList&p=3F89988882F2A2AE&index=0&playnext=1
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>  
> Does anyone here like this music?
>  
> -Paul*E*Wog
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>
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Fails at interwebs subpost.

> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 3:20 PM, STML <dj.stml@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm sort of over the whole vinyl vs. puter argument at this stage. Each
>> has it's merits. Personally, most of the new music I like isn't coming out
>> on vinyl, so it's a moot point. Having said that, theres a lot to be said
>> for Andy's points. There's also a lot to be said for the scores of excellent
>> tunes I just couldn't be assed to digitize. It's a lot of fun to bang out a
>> set of gloriously self indulgent vinyl monsters occasionally.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM, George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Good points, monsieur.
>>>
>>> Bingbong!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>
>>> To: George Cochrane <newstylesound@yahoo.com>
>>> Cc: SFRaves <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2009 9:51:31 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] Vinyl, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 6 Feb 2009, George Cochrane wrote:
>>> -&e->With respect to the nice folks putting on that "All Vinyl" event
>>> -&e->(that I will probably be at): Can I just take a sec to politely rail
>>> -&e->on this vinyl elitist thing that's happening at the moment?  I am
>>> -&e->good friends with a BUNCH of talented DJs that have started to spout
>>> -&e->this "Vinyl only, duh bra if you're not playing records then you
>>> -&e->aren't really DJing..." line in the last year or so.  Totally blows
>>> -&e->my mind.
>>>
>>> It's a choice, not a holy war.  I know how to play off cds, I know how
>>> Traktor works, I helped develop a product that works the way FS or
>>> Serrato
>>> do, and um...
>>>
>>> Vinyl is more fun for me.  More fun to watch, more fun to select, and
>>> beautifully primal.  It won't last forever, I know it's dying (well, at
>>> least to some degree it already has), and if people want to throw an
>>> occasional event that pimps it PLEASE DO.  It's a neat thing!
>>>
>>> It's like saying a fist is an inferior weapon to a gun, therefore we
>>> should ban boxing...
>>>
>>> -&e->To these folks, I kinda have to say, fine then!
>>> -&e->
>>> -&e->Say goodbye to playing unreleased music (yours or others), have fun
>>> -&e->paying $9-12 bucks for a single decent track, have fun with your
>>> -&e->entire bedroom of records that would fit on a rather modest hard
>>> -&e->drive, enjoy not having access to most of the cool tech that's come
>>> -&e->out for djing in the last 10 years...  ...and most of all, have fun
>>> -&e->lugging your 30lb crate to every gig while I show up on my bike with
>>> -&e->an 8lb backpack and 10x as much music.  All I know is, hip-hop heads
>>> -&e->have been vinyl-loving, crate-digging record purists longer than any
>>> -&e->of us electronic music people can lay claim to, and ~90% of those
>>> djs
>>> -&e->use Scratch at this point.  Case kinda closed.
>>>
>>> Wedding DJs existed before hip hop and we're not going to view them as a
>>> high point of the art, are we?  I don't think history = validity here.
>>> Oh, also, I *wish* my crate weighed 30pounds.  Try more like 60+ for my
>>> cubic foot of lameness (which I almost need to bring if I'm hotmixing).
>>>
>>> -&e->I'm all for people celebrating vinyl, I think it has its charms,
>>> too-
>>> -&e->but to try to turn it into some kind of cool-guy fetishism thing is
>>>
>>> You still ride a fixie?  You still cherish your tube amps, or your
>>> vintage
>>> bass or mic pre's or that silly synth you could easily replace with a
>>> plugin?  C'mon, in every "cool-guy fetishist" thing, there's something
>>> valid.
>>>
>>> -&e->just retarded.  The only thing an "all vinyl" designation tells me
>>> -&e->about a party is that the people I'm about to see have chosen format
>>> -&e->over function.  I guess that's marketing for you- gotta keep
>>> throwing
>>> -&e->things at the wall until something sticks.
>>>
>>> No, it means a bunch of cranks with lots of old vinyl want to try
>>> throwing
>>> parties where they play the way they remember it, when it seemed DJing
>>> was
>>> more of an artform.  I know I fall into this camp.  Maybe it's the
>>> thousands I pumped into vinyl, maybe it's the fact that moving where I
>>> live is nearly impossible for me thanks to this collection, maybe it's
>>> disillusionment with the fact that it's never going to be that way
>>> again... I don't think there's much "cool-guy fetishism" in my defense of
>>> it.  It was more fun to watch, more fun to do, and helped foster a level
>>> of trust in the artform as almost everything was visible and right there.
>>>
>>> It used to be, maybe 10 years ago that it was an unspeakable crime to
>>> find out a DJ was "playing off a DAT", but a lot of the DJs playing
>>> "sets"
>>> I've seen could take a bullet to the face while playing, and all that
>>> would change is there would be a lot less annoying filter sweeps, poorly
>>> timed cuts and cheerleading going on.  DJing has been wholly
>>> democratized,
>>> almost anyone with iTunes or WMP pours over sets of music, anyone who can
>>> click a space bar to the beat can beatmatch now, and despite all this
>>> awesome potential, DJing as an artform has taken a bit of a dive in my
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> I don't expect everyone to agree, and I don't expect every event to be
>>> promoted as "Vinyl Only", but let the old curmedgeons have their fun with
>>> their mystical black crack, their analog sound systems, their old school
>>> Rane mixers, while passing out cassettes of their mixes, etc.
>>>
>>> Andy 'Now if I could just find a good old fashioned rotary cell phone' W
>>>
>>> p.s. if you search SFR archives you can find me passionately arguing a
>>> point similar to yours a few years back George, but sadly time has
>>> brought
>>> us all the trappings of technology and it sorta ruined DJing as a
>>> performance medium to a degree as far as I'm concerned.  As far as fun to
>>> watchness goes, and being able to connect with what people are doing...
>>> vinyl > live pa on outboard gear > cds > anything involving a laptop.
>>> Seeing media change helps, seeing non-modal (same button does same thing
>>> all the time, like a key on a piano vs. say, a mouse click) buttons
>>> helps,
>>> seeing people dig through boxes or books of cds lets you know they are
>>> "searching"... on a laptop, they might be playing their premixed set out
>>> of iTunes and checking their stocks... you just don't know.
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On my way back through Sac this weekend I saw a big ass billboard that
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PEPSITC.

Then there was their new "refresh button" pepsi logo which highly
resembled a pill. Though it was worth a chuckle, but didn't stop to take
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] SRR(?): Pepsi Billboard

Is this viral marketing for the new Sex In The City movie (SITC)?

If so, very weird.



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On my way back through Sac this weekend I saw a big ass billboard that
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Link for BBC's Summer of Rave

this was awesome to watch. thanks! :)

this summer is the 20th anniversary...

On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I just started the upload about 5 minutes ago, it should be done within the
> next half hour.  You may need to install a certain codec to watch the movie,
> I was able to get it for free.  Enjoy!
>
> http://www.acidtotem.net/videos/summerofrave.avi   (471mb)
>



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Subject: [sfraves] BSP - C. Faith's 'Free Spirit Lost Soul' out on Beatport today <3

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To my crotchety old raver friends...

My debut release, Free Spirit Lost Soul EP, on SubSensory Recordings, is out
on Beatport today!

The title track is a deep, syncopated, slow burning techno track for
afterhours dancefloors. Portland's DJ Jak and Lil' Roj provided the remix, a
funky tech-house treatment. The EP also features Jak's driving, melodic
techno track Harmonix, along with my deep tech-house remix.

C.Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul EP - Beatport
Link<https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/free_spirit_lost_soul_ep>

1. C. Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul (Original Mix)
2. C. Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul (JAK & Lil' Roj Remix)
3. Jack Coleman - Harmonix
4. Jack Coleman - Harmonix (C. Faith's Sunrise Mix)

You can also hear two of the tracks in full on my Soundcloud page --->
www.soundcloud.com/cfaith


Love Chelsea
www.myspace.com/chelcfaithmusic
www.soundcloud.com/cfaith

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology

well i've seen the rule being broken a few times and as far as i know 
the fnf chat list is more about bacon and politics than much anything 
else. i thought the post was way more rave related but the post 
originated on fnf. but i debated about this quandry.. when the better 
conversations with the trueskool heads ignore SFR when something 
interesting comes up that could change the way we think about raves.. 
shouldn't way more people know about it? anyway.. if nobody is going to 
do anything about ARGs and raves i'm going to give it a shot just to be 
mischievous. cheap mystery thumb drives, ebay trickery, craigslist 
posts, you tube and media hacks. it seems like it could be alot of fun.  
for starters, i could just drop stuff into my network folder and see who 
downloads it based on who's logged into the LAN. or if someone is over 
for an integrated broadcast they can get some goodies just for showing 
up like past sets etc. fun fun.

sean.

AndyW wrote:
> Sean, try to avoid cross-posting to SFR + FnF(of any variety).
>
>  ;)
>
> Not a big deal, but for the record FnF has been pretty much underground 
> for all intents and purposes for about 8 years now.  SFR is still 
> publically archived, etc if memory serves.
>
> andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_________________
> "I think the biggest misconception about me is that I'm this spoiled brat. 
> But I'm not. I'm, like, the total opposite." - Paris Hilton
>
> On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, sean ocean wrote:
>
> -&e->rory's thread below about trent reznor's involvement in ARGs has given me
> -&e->an idea ...
> -&e->
> -&e->has anybody participated in ARGs (alternative reality games)?  i've heard
> -&e->about these and the concept is really crazy. its like the closest thing to
> -&e->the movie 'the game' with sean penn and michael douglas (ok movie, good
> -&e->concept). i've heard of major corporations take part in stuff like this by
> -&e->giving keys to audi cars, jumping into speed boats and if the people
> -&e->participate in this get really heavy into it, they start having other
> -&e->participants call each other to set each other up meetings to create
> -&e->counter intelligence and CIA type games.
> -&e->
> -&e->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_games
> -&e->
> -&e->seems like some sort of thing that ravers might just be into.. maybe having
> -&e->ARGs to get to a party? sort of a fun map point scavenger hunt. or chalking
> -&e->to get to wifi points in the city to get info or keys for coded information
> -&e->and free music for an event, like mix cds for artists and such. i would
> -&e->love to see the journey to a party become half the fun of the experience or
> -&e->maybe even the entire experience. who knows? all i know is that the
> -&e->standard for raves, while it has always been awesome, hasn't changed in
> -&e->(god) 20 years. since technology and the people involved in the scene have
> -&e->evolved technologically as well it would be fun to incorporate some
> -&e->technology into the aspect of raves again.
> -&e->
> -&e->maybe it is time to see some more craziness and inventive ideas, especially
> -&e->if every one has a basic computer in their pocket such as a cell phone or
> -&e->an i phone.. maybe incorporate binary code into a map point like graff
> -&e->artist invader has done (or kanye west has done to bite him):
> -&e->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5YFO4Sy0E
> -&e->
> -&e->maybe we can incorporate something into college radio? mess with you tube,
> -&e->ebay or mess with google earth... or just do something interesting. there's
> -&e->so much potential for something awesome to happen since so many of us are
> -&e->into IT and design and all sorts of technology. it seems like a no brainer
> -&e->to let this aspect creep into our party scene.
> -&e->
> -&e->maybe instead of one party, there can be several small ones and one fee for
> -&e->all as long as the stamp and or wrist tags are valid and have good security
> -&e->they can be valid for all events. i'm sure there are little locations that
> -&e->could work out and if one is busted the many other party cells could
> -&e->survive.
> -&e->
> -&e->i don't know.. just think of fun things and let's do it. *i'm bored*. let's
> -&e->collaborate and have a good time. i'm down to donate ideas, time, sound and
> -&e->a space if anyone wants to throw down.
> -&e->
> -&e->respecty,
> -&e->sean ocean
> -&e->
> -&e->Rory [Armodis] wrote:
> -&e->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njuo1puB1lg
> -&e->> 
> -&e->> RIAA die die die !!
> -&e->> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -&e->> 
> -&e->> _______________________________________________
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> -&e->> Chat@lists.fnf.org
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Subject: [sfraves] [bsp] AFTERGLOW - an evening of mellow electronics - Sunday @ 
	Nickie's

AFTERGLOW was conceived as a chance to wind down after a long weekend
by listening to some chill music and having a few drinks with friends.  The
idea is to allow some of SF's talented and multi-faceted dance music
DJ's an opportunity to dig deeper into their collections and play music they
wouldn't be able to in a club setting. Anything's game, from ambient to dub
techno, trip-hop, idm, atmospheric drum n bass, downtempo, future jazz,
deep house and beyond.

_______________________________________________________________


Our second event takes place this Sunday, February 15th and features
the relaxing and heady musical stylings of Ambient Mafia members:


SHANE  (FnF, Cloud Factory, Ambient Mafia)

and

HARKEN  (Urban Wasteland, FnF, Ambient Mafia)


plus residents:  Congruence, Mike Perry, & Greg Bird


Afterglow website:  (check out the flyer here)
http://www.afterglowsf.com

Afterglow on MySpace:  (add us!)
http://www.myspace.com/afterglowsf

________________________________________________________________


Located @ the all new:

-----[ NICKIE'S ]-----

466 Haight Street, SF
10pm - 1am / FREE

full bar / kitchen open til 1am
http://www.nickies.com

_______________________________________________________________


More about this month's guests:


Shane     (FnF, Cloud Factory, Ambient Mafia)

After NASA brought Shane to the Bay Area in 1997, he eventually
decided to go to a warehouse party to see what the hell everyone was
raving about. Three months later he'd bought turntables, a ton of
vinyl, and soon became a core member of several Bay Area collectives
including Epiphany, Viberation and Friends and Family. An innaugural
member of the Ambient Mafia, Shane looks forward many things, such as
blowing minds -- one banana at a time. He also likes mimosas, walks in
the park, robotic death, driving fast and bacon.


Harken     (Urban Wasteland, FnF, Ambient Mafia)

Harken started spinning records in 1997 upon hearing LTJ Bukem's
seminal Logical Progression. After several underground appearances
with the likes of Epiphany, Plate Tectonics, and High Jinx, he was
approached by Redstickman, and asked to be a founding member of the
Ambient Mafia. Little did he know that the key word there was
"member".

______________________________________________________________


It's gonna be a big weekend, and I'm sure by Sunday we'll be ready to trade
in the dancing shoes for some good conversation, a pint of beer and a big
ol' plate of mac n' cheese.

Let's get mellow. :)


----> Greg Bird, Mike Perry, and Matt Wilder

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology



<Homer voice>
mmmmmmmm... Bacon....
</Homer voice>

______________________________________________________________________


--- On Wed, 2/11/09, sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com> wrote:

> From: sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology
> To: "SFR" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 2:46 PM
> well i've seen the rule being broken
> a few times and as far as i know the fnf chat list is more
> about bacon and politics than much anything else. i thought
> the post was way more rave related but the post originated
> on fnf. but i debated about this quandry.. when the better
> conversations with the trueskool heads ignore SFR when
> something interesting comes up that could change the way we
> think about raves.. shouldn't way more people know about it?
> anyway.. if nobody is going to do anything about ARGs and
> raves i'm going to give it a shot just to be mischievous.
> cheap mystery thumb drives, ebay trickery, craigslist posts,
> you tube and media hacks. it seems like it could be alot of
> fun.=A0 for starters, i could just drop stuff into my
> network folder and see who downloads it based on who's
> logged into the LAN. or if someone is over for an integrated
> broadcast they can get some goodies just for showing up like
> past sets etc. fun fun.
>=20
> sean.
>=20
> AndyW wrote:
> > Sean, try to avoid cross-posting to SFR + FnF(of any
> variety).
> >=20
> >=A0 ;)
> >=20
> > Not a big deal, but for the record FnF has been pretty
> much underground for all intents and purposes for about 8
> years now.=A0 SFR is still publically archived, etc if
> memory serves.
> >=20
> > andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
> >
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_________________
> > "I think the biggest misconception about me is that
> I'm this spoiled brat. But I'm not. I'm, like, the total
> opposite." - Paris Hilton
> >=20
> > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, sean ocean wrote:
> >=20
> > -&e->rory's thread below about trent reznor's
> involvement in ARGs has given me
> > -&e->an idea ...
> > -&e->
> > -&e->has anybody participated in ARGs
> (alternative reality games)?=A0 i've heard
> > -&e->about these and the concept is really
> crazy. its like the closest thing to
> > -&e->the movie 'the game' with sean penn and
> michael douglas (ok movie, good
> > -&e->concept). i've heard of major corporations
> take part in stuff like this by
> > -&e->giving keys to audi cars, jumping into
> speed boats and if the people
> > -&e->participate in this get really heavy into
> it, they start having other
> > -&e->participants call each other to set each
> other up meetings to create
> > -&e->counter intelligence and CIA type games.
> > -&e->
> > -&e->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_games
> > -&e->
> > -&e->seems like some sort of thing that ravers
> might just be into.. maybe having
> > -&e->ARGs to get to a party? sort of a fun map
> point scavenger hunt. or chalking
> > -&e->to get to wifi points in the city to get
> info or keys for coded information
> > -&e->and free music for an event, like mix cds
> for artists and such. i would
> > -&e->love to see the journey to a party become
> half the fun of the experience or
> > -&e->maybe even the entire experience. who
> knows? all i know is that the
> > -&e->standard for raves, while it has always
> been awesome, hasn't changed in
> > -&e->(god) 20 years. since technology and the
> people involved in the scene have
> > -&e->evolved technologically as well it would
> be fun to incorporate some
> > -&e->technology into the aspect of raves
> again.
> > -&e->
> > -&e->maybe it is time to see some more
> craziness and inventive ideas, especially
> > -&e->if every one has a basic computer in their
> pocket such as a cell phone or
> > -&e->an i phone.. maybe incorporate binary code
> into a map point like graff
> > -&e->artist invader has done (or kanye west has
> done to bite him):
> > -&e->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dye5YFO4Sy0E
> > -&e->
> > -&e->maybe we can incorporate something into
> college radio? mess with you tube,
> > -&e->ebay or mess with google earth... or just
> do something interesting. there's
> > -&e->so much potential for something awesome to
> happen since so many of us are
> > -&e->into IT and design and all sorts of
> technology. it seems like a no brainer
> > -&e->to let this aspect creep into our party
> scene.
> > -&e->
> > -&e->maybe instead of one party, there can be
> several small ones and one fee for
> > -&e->all as long as the stamp and or wrist tags
> are valid and have good security
> > -&e->they can be valid for all events. i'm sure
> there are little locations that
> > -&e->could work out and if one is busted the
> many other party cells could
> > -&e->survive.
> > -&e->
> > -&e->i don't know.. just think of fun things
> and let's do it. *i'm bored*. let's
> > -&e->collaborate and have a good time. i'm down
> to donate ideas, time, sound and
> > -&e->a space if anyone wants to throw down.
> > -&e->
> > -&e->respecty,
> > -&e->sean ocean
> > -&e->
> > -&e->Rory [Armodis] wrote:
> > -&e->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DNjuo1puB1lg
> > -&e->> -&e->> RIAA die die die !!
> > -&e->>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> _______________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] ARGs, Raves and technology

Bacon is proof that if God exists, that He loves us and clearly thinks
a bunch of religions are full of shit. ;)



On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Uncle Noah <unclenoah@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> <Homer voice>
> mmmmmmmm... Bacon....
> </Homer voice>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/11/09, sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com> wrote:
>
>> From: sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] ARGs,  Raves and technology
>> To: "SFR" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 2:46 PM
>> well i've seen the rule being broken
>> a few times and as far as i know the fnf chat list is more
>> about bacon and politics than much anything else. i thought
>> the post was way more rave related but the post originated
>> on fnf. but i debated about this quandry.. when the better
>> conversations with the trueskool heads ignore SFR when
>> something interesting comes up that could change the way we
>> think about raves.. shouldn't way more people know about it?
>> anyway.. if nobody is going to do anything about ARGs and
>> raves i'm going to give it a shot just to be mischievous.
>> cheap mystery thumb drives, ebay trickery, craigslist posts,
>> you tube and media hacks. it seems like it could be alot of
>> fun.  for starters, i could just drop stuff into my
>> network folder and see who downloads it based on who's
>> logged into the LAN. or if someone is over for an integrated
>> broadcast they can get some goodies just for showing up like
>> past sets etc. fun fun.
>>
>> sean.
>>
>> AndyW wrote:
>> > Sean, try to avoid cross-posting to SFR + FnF(of any
>> variety).
>> >
>> >  ;)
>> >
>> > Not a big deal, but for the record FnF has been pretty
>> much underground for all intents and purposes for about 8
>> years now.  SFR is still publically archived, etc if
>> memory serves.
>> >
>> > andyw - mutorsoundsystem - saturn5.com/andy
>> >
>> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\_________________
>> > "I think the biggest misconception about me is that
>> I'm this spoiled brat. But I'm not. I'm, like, the total
>> opposite." - Paris Hilton
>> >
>> > On Sat, 7 Feb 2009, sean ocean wrote:
>> >
>> > -&e->rory's thread below about trent reznor's
>> involvement in ARGs has given me
>> > -&e->an idea ...
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->has anybody participated in ARGs
>> (alternative reality games)?  i've heard
>> > -&e->about these and the concept is really
>> crazy. its like the closest thing to
>> > -&e->the movie 'the game' with sean penn and
>> michael douglas (ok movie, good
>> > -&e->concept). i've heard of major corporations
>> take part in stuff like this by
>> > -&e->giving keys to audi cars, jumping into
>> speed boats and if the people
>> > -&e->participate in this get really heavy into
>> it, they start having other
>> > -&e->participants call each other to set each
>> other up meetings to create
>> > -&e->counter intelligence and CIA type games.
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternate_reality_games
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->seems like some sort of thing that ravers
>> might just be into.. maybe having
>> > -&e->ARGs to get to a party? sort of a fun map
>> point scavenger hunt. or chalking
>> > -&e->to get to wifi points in the city to get
>> info or keys for coded information
>> > -&e->and free music for an event, like mix cds
>> for artists and such. i would
>> > -&e->love to see the journey to a party become
>> half the fun of the experience or
>> > -&e->maybe even the entire experience. who
>> knows? all i know is that the
>> > -&e->standard for raves, while it has always
>> been awesome, hasn't changed in
>> > -&e->(god) 20 years. since technology and the
>> people involved in the scene have
>> > -&e->evolved technologically as well it would
>> be fun to incorporate some
>> > -&e->technology into the aspect of raves
>> again.
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->maybe it is time to see some more
>> craziness and inventive ideas, especially
>> > -&e->if every one has a basic computer in their
>> pocket such as a cell phone or
>> > -&e->an i phone.. maybe incorporate binary code
>> into a map point like graff
>> > -&e->artist invader has done (or kanye west has
>> done to bite him):
>> > -&e->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5YFO4Sy0E
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->maybe we can incorporate something into
>> college radio? mess with you tube,
>> > -&e->ebay or mess with google earth... or just
>> do something interesting. there's
>> > -&e->so much potential for something awesome to
>> happen since so many of us are
>> > -&e->into IT and design and all sorts of
>> technology. it seems like a no brainer
>> > -&e->to let this aspect creep into our party
>> scene.
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->maybe instead of one party, there can be
>> several small ones and one fee for
>> > -&e->all as long as the stamp and or wrist tags
>> are valid and have good security
>> > -&e->they can be valid for all events. i'm sure
>> there are little locations that
>> > -&e->could work out and if one is busted the
>> many other party cells could
>> > -&e->survive.
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->i don't know.. just think of fun things
>> and let's do it. *i'm bored*. let's
>> > -&e->collaborate and have a good time. i'm down
>> to donate ideas, time, sound and
>> > -&e->a space if anyone wants to throw down.
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->respecty,
>> > -&e->sean ocean
>> > -&e->
>> > -&e->Rory [Armodis] wrote:
>> > -&e->> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njuo1puB1lg
>> > -&e->> -&e->> RIAA die die die !!
>> > -&e->>
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Subject: [sfraves] NRR: Chad (Vader) after dentist

http://www.joketribe.com/video/Chad.Vader.After.Dentist.php


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Google plans to make PCs history

i think there is an inherent danger in giving all your information and 
files to a single company. let's say this wasn't the nice people at 
google doing this, and rather it was the shady US govt. or any other 
national power. how would you feel about that?

maybe its time we started reading blacklisted on how to disappear in the 
information age and stay human.

sean.

thatguy@caligrownevents.com wrote:
> Google plans to make PCs history. . . 
>
> Industry critics warn of danger in giving internet leader more power:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/jan/25/google-drive-gdrive-internet
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - C. Faith's 'Free Spirit Lost Soul' out on 
     Beatport today <3

Oh My gosh Chel-C... i'm soooooooo proud of you Honey!!!  ConfuckinGrats
on this Baby!! YAAAAAY 4 Music & Yaay 4 you!!!!  So dope!!!
-- 
Take Care <3
Peace=->Jus' Me =-> O§bY {8O)



Chelsea Faith wrote:
> To my crotchety old raver friends...
>
> My debut release, Free Spirit Lost Soul EP, on SubSensory Recordings, is
> out
> on Beatport today!
>
> The title track is a deep, syncopated, slow burning techno track for
> afterhours dancefloors. Portland's DJ Jak and Lil' Roj provided the remix,
> a
> funky tech-house treatment. The EP also features Jak's driving, melodic
> techno track Harmonix, along with my deep tech-house remix.
>
> C.Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul EP - Beatport
> Link<https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/free_spirit_lost_soul_ep>
>
> 1. C. Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul (Original Mix)
> 2. C. Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul (JAK & Lil' Roj Remix)
> 3. Jack Coleman - Harmonix
> 4. Jack Coleman - Harmonix (C. Faith's Sunrise Mix)
>
> You can also hear two of the tracks in full on my Soundcloud page --->
> www.soundcloud.com/cfaith
>
>
> Love Chelsea
> www.myspace.com/chelcfaithmusic
> www.soundcloud.com/cfaith
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - C. Faith's 'Free Spirit Lost Soul' out on Beatport today <3

These tracks are awesome.  Thank you!

Peter



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Subject: [sfraves] BSP - C. Faith's 'Free Spirit Lost Soul' out on Beatport today <3

To my crotchety old raver friends...

My debut release, Free Spirit Lost Soul EP, on SubSensory Recordings, is out
on Beatport today!

The title track is a deep, syncopated, slow burning techno track for
afterhours dancefloors. Portland's DJ Jak and Lil' Roj provided the remix, a
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C.Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul EP - Beatport
Link<https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/free_spirit_lost_soul_ep>

1. C. Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul (Original Mix)
2. C. Faith - Free Spirit Lost Soul (JAK & Lil' Roj Remix)
3. Jack Coleman - Harmonix
4. Jack Coleman - Harmonix (C. Faith's Sunrise Mix)

You can also hear two of the tracks in full on my Soundcloud page --->
www.soundcloud.com/cfaith


Love Chelsea
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Subject: [sfraves] NRR: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?

Another petition campaign.


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Subject: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?

Dear Courage Campaign supporter,

President Bill Clinton will be making a big mistake on Sunday. Unless we 
act now to stop him. Let me tell you why.

If you've seen the film "MILK", you may know that I worked with Harvey 
Milk in the 1970s, including on a campaign to boycott Coors Beer for the 
company's anti-gay hiring policies and belligerent stance in contract 
negotiations towards their workers.

The Coors Beer Boycott taught me an unforgettable lesson about the power 
of coalitions in the struggle for equality. That lesson is being 
replicated today in the successful Manchester Hyatt Boycott in San 
Diego.

To the the surprise of many, President Clinton is scheduled to give a 
paid speech this Sunday at the Manchester Hyatt to the annual convention 
of the International Franchise Association. To give this speech, 
President Clinton will have to violate a union boycott and labor dispute 
-- the workers at the hotel lack job security and the housekeepers face 
onerous workloads.

But that's not all. President Clinton will also be offending supporters 
of marriage equality, including myself. Doug Manchester, the owner of 
the hotel, contributed $125,000 in early seed money to the Proposition 8 
campaign.

We can't let this happen. President Clinton has the power to move his 
speech away from the Manchester Hyatt. And you have the power to 
convince him before it's too late. Please sign the Courage Campaign's 
petition to President Clinton immediately and we will do everything in 
our power to get your signatures to him ASAP:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton

It is ironic that, by showing up at the Manchester Hyatt on Sunday, 
President Clinton will provide comfort to Ken Starr and the Prop 8 Legal 
Defense Fund, who are now trying to defend the constitutionality of Prop 
8 before the state Supreme Court. Doug Manchester's significant $125,000 
contribution to the "Yes on 8" campaign helped pass Prop 8 -- money that 
made Starr's case possible.

I think President Clinton should move his speech to another hotel in the 
area that treats its workers -- and the LGBT community -- with respect. 
If he doesn't, he will see me, and likely many others, this Sunday on 
the sidewalk in front of the Manchester Hyatt.

That is exactly where Harvey Milk would want me -- and you -- to be. 
While you may not be able join us there, I hope you'll add your 
signature right now and let President Clinton know what you think before 
Sunday:

http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton

Thank you for helping the Courage Campaign and UNITE HERE build a 
broad-based coalition for equal rights and economic justice in 
California and across the country.

Cleve Jones
UNITE HERE

..............

The Courage Campaign is an online organizing network that empowers over 
500,000 grassroots and netroots activists to push for progressive change 
in California.

To power our campaign to repeal Prop 8, please chip in what you can 
today:

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Maybe I'm a total retard, but I can't find a clear link to the petition.

m

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--- On Fri, 2/13/09, J.C. <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

> From: J.C. <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu>
> Subject: [sfraves] NRR: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 10:55 AM
> Another petition campaign.
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:48:43 -0500
> From: "Cleve Jones, for Courage Campaign"
> <info@couragecampaign.org>
> Subject: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?
> 
> Dear Courage Campaign supporter,
> 
> President Bill Clinton will be making a big mistake on
> Sunday. Unless we act now to stop him. Let me tell you why.
> 
> If you've seen the film "MILK", you may know
> that I worked with Harvey Milk in the 1970s, including on a
> campaign to boycott Coors Beer for the company's
> anti-gay hiring policies and belligerent stance in contract
> negotiations towards their workers.
> 
> The Coors Beer Boycott taught me an unforgettable lesson
> about the power of coalitions in the struggle for equality.
> That lesson is being replicated today in the successful
> Manchester Hyatt Boycott in San Diego.
> 
> To the the surprise of many, President Clinton is scheduled
> to give a paid speech this Sunday at the Manchester Hyatt to
> the annual convention of the International Franchise
> Association. To give this speech, President Clinton will
> have to violate a union boycott and labor dispute -- the
> workers at the hotel lack job security and the housekeepers
> face onerous workloads.
> 
> But that's not all. President Clinton will also be
> offending supporters of marriage equality, including myself.
> Doug Manchester, the owner of the hotel, contributed
> $125,000 in early seed money to the Proposition 8 campaign.
> 
> We can't let this happen. President Clinton has the
> power to move his speech away from the Manchester Hyatt. And
> you have the power to convince him before it's too late.
> Please sign the Courage Campaign's petition to President
> Clinton immediately and we will do everything in our power
> to get your signatures to him ASAP:
> 
> http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton
> 
> It is ironic that, by showing up at the Manchester Hyatt on
> Sunday, President Clinton will provide comfort to Ken Starr
> and the Prop 8 Legal Defense Fund, who are now trying to
> defend the constitutionality of Prop 8 before the state
> Supreme Court. Doug Manchester's significant $125,000
> contribution to the "Yes on 8" campaign helped
> pass Prop 8 -- money that made Starr's case possible.
> 
> I think President Clinton should move his speech to another
> hotel in the area that treats its workers -- and the LGBT
> community -- with respect. If he doesn't, he will see
> me, and likely many others, this Sunday on the sidewalk in
> front of the Manchester Hyatt.
> 
> That is exactly where Harvey Milk would want me -- and you
> -- to be. While you may not be able join us there, I hope
> you'll add your signature right now and let President
> Clinton know what you think before Sunday:
> 
> http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton
> 
> Thank you for helping the Courage Campaign and UNITE HERE
> build a broad-based coalition for equal rights and economic
> justice in California and across the country.
> 
> Cleve Jones
> UNITE HERE
> 
> ..............
> 
> The Courage Campaign is an online organizing network that
> empowers over 500,000 grassroots and netroots activists to
> push for progressive change in California.
> 
> To power our campaign to repeal Prop 8, please chip in what
> you can today:
> 
> http://www.couragecampaign.org/PowerTheRepeal
> 
> 
> ----
> Paid for by Courage Campaign.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Nope, you're not a retard.  Their non-html version doesn't have them 
spelled out, and that's what I forwarded.  Link is here:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/dotherightthing

On 13 February 2009, michael the redstickman wrote:

>
> Maybe I'm a total retard, but I can't find a clear link to the petition.
>
> m




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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?


They're not going to get a lot of signatures if they make mistakes like that!  ;)

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--- On Fri, 2/13/09, J.C. <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

> From: J.C. <dougm@kzsu.stanford.edu>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Friday, February 13, 2009, 12:04 PM
> Nope, you're not a retard.  Their non-html version
> doesn't have them 
> spelled out, and that's what I forwarded.  Link is
> here:
> http://www.couragecampaign.org/page/s/dotherightthing
> 
> On 13 February 2009, michael the redstickman wrote:
> 
> >
> > Maybe I'm a total retard, but I can't find a
> clear link to the petition.
> >
> > m
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?


The boycott Milk spearheaded and this are two totally different things.

That was a clear case of broad based discrimination in a free system.  We 
have a choice of what brand of beer to buy, or whether to buy it at all.  
Asking an individual to boycott something they're already contractually 
bound to follow through with (with the International Franchise Foundation, 
not the hotel or it's owner) is not likely something that will go through 
and we should focus on issues where the benefits merit the efforts.  If 
the union is actually on strike, his attendance could be used to raise 
awareness if effectively covered (yes, he'd cross picket lines, but it 
might force a statement which is golden free press).

Asking Clinton to take the money and donate it to the union and the repeal 
of prop8 seems to make a lot more sense.  Everybody gets to save face and 
the statement is that much stronger.

Good intentions, bad idea in my opinion.
andyw

On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, J.C. wrote:
-&e->Another petition campaign.
-&e->
-&e->
-&e->---------- Forwarded message ----------
-&e->Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:48:43 -0500
-&e->From: "Cleve Jones, for Courage Campaign" <info@couragecampaign.org>
-&e->Subject: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?
-&e->
-&e->Dear Courage Campaign supporter,
-&e->
-&e->President Bill Clinton will be making a big mistake on Sunday. Unless we
-&e->act now to stop him. Let me tell you why.
-&e->
-&e->If you've seen the film "MILK", you may know that I worked with Harvey Milk
-&e->in the 1970s, including on a campaign to boycott Coors Beer for the
-&e->company's anti-gay hiring policies and belligerent stance in contract
-&e->negotiations towards their workers.
-&e->
-&e->The Coors Beer Boycott taught me an unforgettable lesson about the power of
-&e->coalitions in the struggle for equality. That lesson is being replicated
-&e->today in the successful Manchester Hyatt Boycott in San Diego.
-&e->
-&e->To the the surprise of many, President Clinton is scheduled to give a paid
-&e->speech this Sunday at the Manchester Hyatt to the annual convention of the
-&e->International Franchise Association. To give this speech, President Clinton
-&e->will have to violate a union boycott and labor dispute -- the workers at
-&e->the hotel lack job security and the housekeepers face onerous workloads.
-&e->
-&e->But that's not all. President Clinton will also be offending supporters of
-&e->marriage equality, including myself. Doug Manchester, the owner of the
-&e->hotel, contributed $125,000 in early seed money to the Proposition 8
-&e->campaign.
-&e->
-&e->We can't let this happen. President Clinton has the power to move his
-&e->speech away from the Manchester Hyatt. And you have the power to convince
-&e->him before it's too late. Please sign the Courage Campaign's petition to
-&e->President Clinton immediately and we will do everything in our power to get
-&e->your signatures to him ASAP:
-&e->
-&e->http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton
-&e->
-&e->It is ironic that, by showing up at the Manchester Hyatt on Sunday,
-&e->President Clinton will provide comfort to Ken Starr and the Prop 8 Legal
-&e->Defense Fund, who are now trying to defend the constitutionality of Prop 8
-&e->before the state Supreme Court. Doug Manchester's significant $125,000
-&e->contribution to the "Yes on 8" campaign helped pass Prop 8 -- money that
-&e->made Starr's case possible.
-&e->
-&e->I think President Clinton should move his speech to another hotel in the
-&e->area that treats its workers -- and the LGBT community -- with respect. If
-&e->he doesn't, he will see me, and likely many others, this Sunday on the
-&e->sidewalk in front of the Manchester Hyatt.
-&e->
-&e->That is exactly where Harvey Milk would want me -- and you -- to be. While
-&e->you may not be able join us there, I hope you'll add your signature right
-&e->now and let President Clinton know what you think before Sunday:
-&e->
-&e->http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton
-&e->
-&e->Thank you for helping the Courage Campaign and UNITE HERE build a
-&e->broad-based coalition for equal rights and economic justice in California
-&e->and across the country.
-&e->
-&e->Cleve Jones
-&e->UNITE HERE
-&e->
-&e->..............
-&e->
-&e->The Courage Campaign is an online organizing network that empowers over
-&e->500,000 grassroots and netroots activists to push for progressive change in
-&e->California.
-&e->
-&e->To power our campaign to repeal Prop 8, please chip in what you can today:
-&e->
-&e->http://www.couragecampaign.org/PowerTheRepeal
-&e->
-&e->
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?

Since when was Clinton ever a friend to GLBTs in the first place?   
This is the man who created don't ask don't tell and signed DOMA,  
after all.  Granted, that's not as bad as the republican's with their  
prop 8 and the constitutional amendment that bush was trying to get  
passed.  And he beats dubya hands-down on the economy.  But he's still  
certainly no ally.

I expect this petition will fall on deaf ears.


cya,
john



On Feb 13, 2009, at 10:55 , J.C. wrote:

> Another petition campaign.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:48:43 -0500
> From: "Cleve Jones, for Courage Campaign" <info@couragecampaign.org>
> Subject: President Clinton: What would Harvey Milk do?
>
> Dear Courage Campaign supporter,
>
> President Bill Clinton will be making a big mistake on Sunday.  
> Unless we act now to stop him. Let me tell you why.
>
> If you've seen the film "MILK", you may know that I worked with  
> Harvey Milk in the 1970s, including on a campaign to boycott Coors  
> Beer for the company's anti-gay hiring policies and belligerent  
> stance in contract negotiations towards their workers.
>
> The Coors Beer Boycott taught me an unforgettable lesson about the  
> power of coalitions in the struggle for equality. That lesson is  
> being replicated today in the successful Manchester Hyatt Boycott in  
> San Diego.
>
> To the the surprise of many, President Clinton is scheduled to give  
> a paid speech this Sunday at the Manchester Hyatt to the annual  
> convention of the International Franchise Association. To give this  
> speech, President Clinton will have to violate a union boycott and  
> labor dispute -- the workers at the hotel lack job security and the  
> housekeepers face onerous workloads.
>
> But that's not all. President Clinton will also be offending  
> supporters of marriage equality, including myself. Doug Manchester,  
> the owner of the hotel, contributed $125,000 in early seed money to  
> the Proposition 8 campaign.
>
> We can't let this happen. President Clinton has the power to move  
> his speech away from the Manchester Hyatt. And you have the power to  
> convince him before it's too late. Please sign the Courage  
> Campaign's petition to President Clinton immediately and we will do  
> everything in our power to get your signatures to him ASAP:
>
> http://www.couragecampaign.org/Clinton
>
> It is ironic that, by showing up at the Manchester Hyatt on Sunday,  
> President Clinton will provide comfort to Ken Starr and the Prop 8  
> Legal Defense Fund, who are now trying to defend the  
> constitutionality of Prop 8 before the state Supreme Court. Doug  
> Manchester's significant $125,000 contribution to the "Yes on 8"  
> campaign helped pass Prop 8 -- money that made Starr's case possible.
>
> I think President Clinton should move his speech to another hotel in  
> the area that treats its workers -- and the LGBT community -- with  
> respect. If he doesn't, he will see me, and likely many others, this  
> Sunday on the sidewalk in front of the Manchester Hyatt.
>
> That is exactly where Harvey Milk would want me -- and you -- to be.  
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Subject: [sfraves] Sex teting in Space

"One of the principal findings was that the classic so-called missionary 
position, which is so easy on earth when gravity pushes one downwards, 
is simply not possible."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2000/feb/24/spaceexploration.internationalnews1





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typo, but you understand.


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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: Blessed (my new DJ mix)

Hi everyone,

I've been DJing for 13 years now, and this is the 13th mix I've made
available via tape, CD or download over my career. That puts me at a rate of
one per year, which means it's not very often I actually pull through and
finish one of these things. ;) I've never put out a mix loaded up with brand
new or upcoming music, instead it's usually a combination of old, new, and a
whole lot in between. I try to make each mix distinctly different, following
a sound, concept, or idea that forms in my head over an extended period of
playing gigs. This mix came out of my experiences playing for Ryan and
Dennis at their Life SF parties here in San Francisco. Like the Life events,
this is a full on party time house music mix, with a lot of vocals, a little
bit of gloss, and a heavy dose of funk and soul:

http://www.djandrewphelan.com/music/Andrew_Phelan_Blessed.mp3

Also, here's a link to all of my old mixes:

http://www.djandrewphelan.com/mixes.php

And the tracklist for Blessed:

1. Candy Apple feat. Anjou - Step 2 Me (Inland Knights Remix) - Shake And
Pop
2. D-t3ch - Meerkat Music - Spatula City
3. Doug Willis - Doug Dastardly (Bonus Beats) - Z Records
4. Spenitch - I'm Blessed (Maurice Fulton Original Stomp Dub) - Basement
Boys
5. Ministry of Funk - Funky Nation - Muzik X Press
6. Mario Fabriani - Good God Almighty - Fetish Recordings
7. Giom - Be Free - Amenti Music
8. The Midnight Circus - Back To The Summer (Joey Youngman Remix) - Damaged
Goods
9. Eric Davenport & Twenty Twelve - Long Time Now - Jamayka Recordings
10. Inland Knights - Lay On Me (Larrys Mango Mix) - Drop Music
11. Christian Malloni - Keep It Hot - Candy Music
12. Alexander East - Believe En Me (Lawnchair Generals Believe in West Mix -
Nordix Trax
13. Christian Malloni - You Rock - Candy Music
14. Christian Malloni - Blue Dreams - Agave
15. Larry Fives - Freezer - Drop Music

Thanks, hope you enjoy!


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Subject: [sfraves] Jeff Mills isn't an Abelton fan

http://www.thewire.co.uk/articles/2035/


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Subject: Re: NRR: Re: [sfraves] Sex teSting in Space

awesome, but that's from 2007?

On Feb 15, 2009, at 5:40 PM, J.C. wrote:

> typo, but you understand.
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Subject: Re: NRR: Re: [sfraves] Sex teSting in Space

Yup.  "news" isn't always fresh.

But my latest preferred description of the issue is "no missionaries in 
space".

On 18 February 2009, orotoro wrote:

> awesome, but that's from 2007?
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 5:40 PM, J.C. wrote:
>
>> typo, but you understand.
>> 
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Subject: Re: NRR: Re: [sfraves] Sex teSting in Space

Hmm, maybe there are some bailout funds available to further this research.



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Subject: Re: NRR: Re: [sfraves] Sex teSting in Space

Yup.  "news" isn't always fresh.

But my latest preferred description of the issue is "no missionaries in 
space".

On 18 February 2009, orotoro wrote:

> awesome, but that's from 2007?
>
> On Feb 15, 2009, at 5:40 PM, J.C. wrote:
>
>> typo, but you understand.
>> 
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Sign me up!

On 18 February 2009, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

> Hmm, maybe there are some bailout funds available to further this research.
>
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP: 2.20.9 DEF's Radio Integrated 'Oblique Strategies Night' Feat.
 ANDY W!

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oblique strat flyer

What
/"Oblique Strategies Night" on DEFsf.com's Radio Integrated/
When
/Friday February 20th, 2009
9pm-? PST/
*Where*
/Bliss Factory Studios & online: http://radio.defsf.com:1200// /
*Who*
/Andy W/
*How*
/Extended DJ Set, Interview and Internet radio broadcast/

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yes, dear friends, it is that time once again where we shout out out to 
the world what SF techno is made of. Time to view that SF Techno is more 
about fun, good choons, good times and building slightly intoxicated 
meaningful social interactions than scene politics and aggressive social 
climbing. So this time, we are back with another installment of the ever 
fun BYOB night, Radio Integrated! This time, we are featuring one of the 
most real DJs out there that has been synonymous with SF Techno for over 
a decade, Andy W.


Andy W has been there and back from helping to throw small weeklies in 
SF Techno's darkest hours to rocking massive sound systems and 
destroying minds at its peaks with his unusual creative flair. Widely 
regarded as one of the most inspiring technical DJs to have ever come 
out of the SF scene, Andy balances heady techno with mind twisting 
tracks that make you go WTF?! While Andy may feed you weird things, he's 
still giving you something to groove on to compliment the bizarre, 
making the mix take on whole new dimensions and meaning while still 
infusing each new mix with creativity and originality. Andy W has always 
been one of the most fluid and surprising DJs to me, often putting 
himself into any situation and making it work with clarity. So it is 
with no surprise that when I came asking him to do a mix for Integrated, 
we both agreed that an extended set featuring Andy W would only be a 
proper showcase for him to flex his muscles as a DJ. This Friday's set 
should be a genre busting, quick mixing, long mixing, techno, electro, 
mind funking example of what Andy W is really about. So strap yourself 
in, this could get interesting.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

9-9:30 interview
9:30-? Andy W does his Laurent Garnier DJ impression

tune in:

http://radio.defsf.com:1200/
from 9pm - ? PST
http://www.defsf.com/radiointegrated/integrated

as always, if you would like to come out to chill out in person during a 
broadcast, be prepared to bring enough BYOB and snax to share, and 
please e-mail back for directions to the event, we'll leave the bass 
bins on for you. `;)

More random info and secret broadcasts:

subscribe:
radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com
def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com

Sean Ocean DEF.

-- 
++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++

Visit: http://www.defsf.com
west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events

++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com
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<i>"Oblique Strategies Night" on DEFsf.com's Radio Integrated</i><br>
<b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span>When<span
 class="moz-txt-tag"></span></b><br>
<i>Friday February 20th, 2009
<br>
9pm-? PST</i><br>
<b>Where</b><br>
<i>Bliss Factory Studios &amp; online: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://radio.defsf.com:1200//">http://radio.defsf.com:1200//</a>
</i><br>
<b>Who</b><br>
<i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><i><span
 class="moz-txt-slash">Andy W</span></i><i class="moz-txt-slash"><span
 class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><br>
<b>How</b><br>
<i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><i><span
 class="moz-txt-slash">Extended DJ Set, Interview and Internet radio
broadcast</span></i><i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><br>
<br>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
<br>
Yes, dear friends, it is that time once again where we shout out out to
the world what SF techno is made of. Time to view that SF Techno is
more about fun, good choons, good times and building slightly
intoxicated meaningful social interactions than scene politics and
aggressive social climbing. So this time, we are back with another
installment of the ever fun BYOB night, Radio Integrated! This time, we
are featuring one of the most real DJs out there that has been
synonymous with SF Techno for over a decade, Andy W.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Andy W has been there and back from helping to throw small weeklies in
SF Techno's darkest hours to rocking massive sound systems and
destroying minds at its peaks with his unusual creative flair. Widely
regarded as one of the most inspiring technical DJs to have ever come
out of the SF scene, Andy balances heady techno with mind twisting
tracks that make you go WTF?! While Andy may feed you weird things,
he's still giving you something to groove on to compliment the bizarre,
making the mix take on whole new dimensions and meaning while still
infusing each new mix with creativity and originality. Andy W has
always been one of the most fluid and surprising DJs to me, often
putting himself into any situation and making it work with clarity. So
it is with no surprise that when I came asking him to do a mix for
Integrated, we both agreed that an extended set featuring Andy W would
only be a proper showcase for him to flex his muscles as a DJ. This
Friday's set should be a genre busting, quick mixing, long mixing,
techno, electro, mind funking example of what Andy W is really about.
So strap yourself in, this could get interesting.
<br>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
<br>
<br>
9-9:30 interview
<br>
9:30-? Andy W does his Laurent Garnier DJ impression
<br>
<br>
tune in:
<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://radio.defsf.com:1200/">http://radio.defsf.com:1200/</a>
<br>
from 9pm - ? PST
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
 href="http://www.defsf.com/radiointegrated/integrated">http://www.defsf.com/radiointegrated/integrated</a>
<br>
<br>
as always, if you would like to come out to chill out in person during
a broadcast, be prepared to bring enough BYOB and snax to share, and
please e-mail back for directions to the event, we'll leave the bass
bins on for you. `;)
<br>
<br>
More random info and secret broadcasts:
<br>
<br>
subscribe:
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com">radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com</a>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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<br>
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Visit: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.defsf.com">http://www.defsf.com</a>
west coast techno articles, news, links, music &amp; events

++++techno news &amp; info: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
 href="mailto:def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com">def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com</a>
++++DEF radio info: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: 2.20.9 DEF's Radio Integrated 'Oblique Strategies Night' Feat. ANDY W!

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NICE!!!! can't wait to listen :)

--- On Wed, 2/18/09, sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com> wrote:
From: sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com>
Subject: [sfraves] BSP: 2.20.9 DEF's Radio Integrated 'Oblique Strategies Night' Feat. ANDY W!
To: "SFR" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 6:38 PM




  
  




What

"Oblique Strategies Night" on DEFsf.com's Radio Integrated

When

Friday February 20th, 2009


9pm-? PST

Where

Bliss Factory Studios & online: http://radio.defsf.com:1200//


Who

Andy W

How

Extended DJ Set, Interview and Internet radio
broadcast



+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Yes, dear friends, it is that time once again where we shout out out to
the world what SF techno is made of. Time to view that SF Techno is
more about fun, good choons, good times and building slightly
intoxicated meaningful social interactions than scene politics and
aggressive social climbing. So this time, we are back with another
installment of the ever fun BYOB night, Radio Integrated! This time, we
are featuring one of the most real DJs out there that has been
synonymous with SF Techno for over a decade, Andy W.






Andy W has been there and back from helping to throw small weeklies in
SF Techno's darkest hours to rocking massive sound systems and
destroying minds at its peaks with his unusual creative flair. Widely
regarded as one of the most inspiring technical DJs to have ever come
out of the SF scene, Andy balances heady techno with mind twisting
tracks that make you go WTF?! While Andy may feed you weird things,
he's still giving you something to groove on to compliment the bizarre,
making the mix take on whole new dimensions and meaning while still
infusing each new mix with creativity and originality. Andy W has
always been one of the most fluid and surprising DJs to me, often
putting himself into any situation and making it work with clarity. So
it is with no surprise that when I came asking him to do a mix for
Integrated, we both agreed that an extended set featuring Andy W would
only be a proper showcase for him to flex his muscles as a DJ. This
Friday's set should be a genre busting, quick mixing, long mixing,
techno, electro, mind funking example of what Andy W is really about.
So strap yourself in, this could get interesting.


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++




9-9:30 interview


9:30-? Andy W does his Laurent Garnier DJ impression




tune in:




http://radio.defsf.com:1200/


from 9pm - ? PST


http://www.defsf.com/radiointegrated/integrated




as always, if you would like to come out to chill out in person during
a broadcast, be prepared to bring enough BYOB and snax to share, and
please e-mail back for directions to the event, we'll leave the bass
bins on for you. `;)




More random info and secret broadcasts:




subscribe:


radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com


def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com




Sean Ocean DEF.



-- 
++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++

Visit: http://www.defsf.com
west coast techno articles, news, links, music & events

++++techno news & info: def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com
++++DEF radio info: radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com
 



      
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<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">NICE!!!! can't wait to listen :)<br><br>--- On <b>Wed, 2/18/09, sean ocean <i>&lt;seanocean@defsf.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">From: sean ocean &lt;seanocean@defsf.com&gt;<br>Subject: [sfraves] BSP: 2.20.9 DEF's Radio Integrated 'Oblique Strategies Night' Feat. ANDY W!<br>To: "SFR" &lt;sfraves@hyperreal.org&gt;<br>Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 6:38 PM<br><br><div id="yiv357940501">


  
  <title></title>
<b class="moz-txt-star"><font color="#ffffff" size="-1" face="Verdana"><img alt="oblique strat flyer" src="cid:1.3462965482@web36907.mail.mud.yahoo.com" align="left" width="288" height="360"><br>
<br>
What<span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></font></b><font color="#ffffff"><font size="-1" face="Verdana"><br>
<i>"Oblique Strategies Night" on DEFsf.com's Radio Integrated</i><br>
<b class="moz-txt-star"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span>When<span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></b><br>
<i>Friday February 20th, 2009
<br>
9pm-? PST</i><br>
<b>Where</b><br>
<i>Bliss Factory Studios &amp; online: <a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"  href="http://radio.defsf.com:1200//">http://radio.defsf.com:1200//</a>
</i><br>
<b>Who</b><br>
<i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><i><span class="moz-txt-slash">Andy W</span></i><i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><br>
<b>How</b><br>
<i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><i><span class="moz-txt-slash">Extended DJ Set, Interview and Internet radio
broadcast</span></i><i class="moz-txt-slash"><span class="moz-txt-tag"></span></i><br>
<br>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
<br>
Yes, dear friends, it is that time once again where we shout out out to
the world what SF techno is made of. Time to view that SF Techno is
more about fun, good choons, good times and building slightly
intoxicated meaningful social interactions than scene politics and
aggressive social climbing. So this time, we are back with another
installment of the ever fun BYOB night, Radio Integrated! This time, we
are featuring one of the most real DJs out there that has been
synonymous with SF Techno for over a decade, Andy W.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Andy W has been there and back from helping to throw small weeklies in
SF Techno's darkest hours to rocking massive sound systems and
destroying minds at its peaks with his unusual creative flair. Widely
regarded as one of the most inspiring technical DJs to have ever come
out of the SF scene, Andy balances heady techno with mind twisting
tracks that make you go WTF?! While Andy may feed you weird things,
he's still giving you something to groove on to compliment the bizarre,
making the mix take on whole new dimensions and meaning while still
infusing each new mix with creativity and originality. Andy W has
always been one of the most fluid and surprising DJs to me, often
putting himself into any situation and making it work with clarity. So
it is with no surprise that when I came asking him to do a mix for
Integrated, we both agreed that an extended set featuring Andy W would
only be a proper showcase for him to flex his muscles as a DJ. This
Friday's set should be a genre busting, quick mixing, long mixing,
techno, electro, mind funking example of what Andy W is really about.
So strap yourself in, this could get interesting.
<br>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
<br>
<br>
9-9:30 interview
<br>
9:30-? Andy W does his Laurent Garnier DJ impression
<br>
<br>
tune in:
<br>
<br>
<a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank"  href="http://radio.defsf.com:1200/">http://radio.defsf.com:1200/</a>
<br>
from 9pm - ? PST
<br>
<a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.defsf.com/radiointegrated/integrated">http://www.defsf.com/radiointegrated/integrated</a>
<br>
<br>
as always, if you would like to come out to chill out in person during
a broadcast, be prepared to bring enough BYOB and snax to share, and
please e-mail back for directions to the event, we'll leave the bass
bins on for you. `;)
<br>
<br>
More random info and secret broadcasts:
<br>
<br>
subscribe:
<br>
<a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="mailto:radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com">radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com</a>
<br>
<a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="mailto:def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com">def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com</a>
<br>
<br>
Sean Ocean DEF.
</font><br>
</font>
<pre class="moz-signature"><font color="#ffffff">-- <br>++++DEFsf.com "a west coast techno alliance"++++<br><br>Visit: <a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" target="_blank" href="http://www.defsf.com">http://www.defsf.com</a><br>west coast techno articles, news, links, music &amp; events<br><br>++++techno news &amp; info: <a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="mailto:def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com">def-announce-subscribe@defsf.com</a><br>++++DEF radio info: <a rel="nofollow" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" target="_blank" href="mailto:radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com">radio-integrated-subsctibe@defsf.com</a></font></pre>
 
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Subject: [sfraves] NRR: Things are getting a bit loose at RiteAid online

http://digg.com/business_finance/RiteAidOnline_is_loosening_up_Buy_a_fleshlight_online


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Things are getting a bit loose at RiteAid online




yeah, but it's no cheaper than if you buy it direct!  

umm... uh... at least... that's what I'd say... if I knew what the price was on the flishlight website... not that I do or anything... um... yeah...

:D
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> Subject: [sfraves] NRR: Things are getting a bit loose at RiteAid online
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> Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 7:27 PM
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Subject: [sfraves] selling my tr 606 `;*(

I hope nobody is interested in this but it is with great sadness i am 
selling my Roland TR606 for $606.00 or for a fair price.

i don't want to get rid of it but it seems i have to because i am facing 
eviction. if i sell it, i vow to get another. or possibly buy it back 
from you.

the unit is in good working order it just needs a few AA energizer 
lithium batteries to make the machine sizzle like it loves to do ("pssh, 
tianng"). no manual but .pdfs are available online. comes with a  power 
supply

need to have it sold by monday.

not sure what a 606 is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlVEnSrIch4

sad times man, `;(

sean.

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Subject: [sfraves] {BSP} George Cochrane LIVE @ Cafe Du Nord - This Sunday, March 1st

Hi all,

Most of you know me as a maker of electronic music, in my Andrew Phelan & Origami, Cubik & Origami, and Fingermonsters projects, but lately I've been working on a new album of quirky, dirty rock music, played live with guitars, drums, and keyboards.  This Sunday, I'm playing a show at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco, with members of SF phenoms French Miami as my band.  The project is called Ice Climber.  We're playing alongside:

Phonofield - http://www.myspace.com/phonofield
and
The Dora Flood - http://www.myspace.com/doraflood

This show is a big deal for me, as it is my first show with a totally live band for a LONG time, at a nice venue, with great musicians playing with me.  If you make it to *one* of my shows this year, let it be this one!  Your support means a TON to me, and getting my friends and folks out to this is really important.

French Miami info, for the uninitiated - http://www.myspace.com/mrfrenchmiami

Show info on Facebook: http://snurl.com/cgbbg

Cafe Du Nord info: http://www.cafedunord.com/

Thanks again,
-George


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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: j.phlip from dirtybird records

just after 10am, sounds like Jess is starting to get her groove on now... :)


-R.



On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Holt Sorenson <hso@hsomusic.com> wrote:
> Please tune in to KZSU by listening to 90.1 in the Bay Area or
> pointing your web browser to http://kzsulive.stanford.edu.
>
> If you're interested in guest appearing on any of our shows
> or having a mix featured contact us using our email addresses
> or: electronicadjs@kzsu.stanford.edu
>
> Big Love Show with Jack - Mon 3PM-6PM Pacific/US
> ------------------------------------------------
>
> This week Jack is hosting somebody, cuz he always does!
>
> I didn't get a hold of him in time (doh!) so I'll
> send an update later today. But tune in, cuz it's
> always great!!!
>
> You can find out more about Jack and his show at:
> http://www.thebigloveshow.com/
>
> Eclektronik Groove w/ Holt Sorenson - Mon 9AM-12PM Pacific/US
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Holt is doin' his thang up in tha' studio at KZSU and will be
> joined by j.phlip of dirtybird records, dotbleep, and nightlight
> music.
>
> J.Phlip, known to most as Jess or Jessica Rose Phillippe. She was
> completely ruined when she discovered house music in her hometown of
> Champaign, IL just 2 hours south of Chicago. This location might
> help describe the how or why behind this unique genre bending blend
> that Phlip brings to the dancefloor. Perhaps it was the proximity to
> Chicago that let house music make its influence, but the distance
> that allowed her the freedom to eventually welcome other sounds into
> her mix. Her sets posses this fun lets-not-forget-this-is-dance-music
> feeling and simultaneously keeps you guessing as to what might come
> next. Her collection spans house, tech house, deep house, techno,
> random bleeps, and special bloops.
>
> In 2005 she won 'Beauty and the Beats', a national DJ competition
> help by BPM magazine, that lead to a tour with DJ Rap, Colette, and
> Reid Speed. Since then she has made a name for herself as a DJ in
> Chicago and now as DJ-slash-Producer in San Francisco.
>
> On her first release for dirtybird, "J" has created a track that is
> both intricate and massive. A wall of devastating bass anchors
> Rumble Rumble's assault, bolstered by an effervescent rhythmic net
> of popcorn snaps, soda cans popping open, and seductive whispers and
> giggles at the very edge of audibility. She has been a pivotal part
> of Chicago's electronic music community for many years and has since
> secured a residency at San Francisco's infamous Endup nightclub that
> is notoriously know for non-stop never-ending parties. Look out for
> J.Phlip's upcoming releases on Dotbleep, Alland Byallo's Nightlight
> Music, and of course more Dirtybird!
>
> BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... and she needs to clean her room...
>
> oh lord and she SRSLY needs to do her laundry...
>
> You can download her promo mixes and find out more about her upcoming
> events at her myspace page.
>
> Myspace:
> http://hsomusic.com/sh/35
>
> Dirtybird Records Artist page:
> http://hsomusic.com/sh/36
>
> You can find out more about Holt and his show at:
> http://hsomusic.com/
>
> Upcoming Events for Holt:
> 02/25 - Tryptich Restaurant
> 03/08 - The Rhythm Room @ The EndUp
>
> Epiphany of Sound with J.C. - Th 9AM-12PM Pacific/US
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
> After 14 years, DJ J.C.'s techno/house/electronica showcase has
> garnered much attention and devotion. Like most folks at Stanford's
> radio station, he's a volunteer, proving that his motivation isn't
> a paycheck; it's his passion to share his interest in one of music's
> most eclectic genres. With his conversational style, inclusion of
> producers and musicians from both the local & international scene,
> and his stewardship of the station's 24-hour marathons during
> Solstices and Equinoxes, it's no wonder that DJ J.C has made a
> connection with listeners in a very crowded market. Catch his live
> broadcasts or listen to the previous week's program at underheard.org.
>
> J.C. will email this week if he has an update on any guests.
>
> Thanks for your support!!!
>
> --
> Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove
> hso@hsomusic.com
> hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic
> KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Th @ 6-9AM US/Pacific
>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP: j.phlip from dirtybird records

oh, guess that's Holt :P

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net> wrote:
> just after 10am, sounds like Jess is starting to get her groove on now... :)
>
>
> -R.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Holt Sorenson <hso@hsomusic.com> wrote:
>> Please tune in to KZSU by listening to 90.1 in the Bay Area or
>> pointing your web browser to http://kzsulive.stanford.edu.
>>
>> If you're interested in guest appearing on any of our shows
>> or having a mix featured contact us using our email addresses
>> or: electronicadjs@kzsu.stanford.edu
>>
>> Big Love Show with Jack - Mon 3PM-6PM Pacific/US
>> ------------------------------------------------
>>
>> This week Jack is hosting somebody, cuz he always does!
>>
>> I didn't get a hold of him in time (doh!) so I'll
>> send an update later today. But tune in, cuz it's
>> always great!!!
>>
>> You can find out more about Jack and his show at:
>> http://www.thebigloveshow.com/
>>
>> Eclektronik Groove w/ Holt Sorenson - Mon 9AM-12PM Pacific/US
>> --------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Holt is doin' his thang up in tha' studio at KZSU and will be
>> joined by j.phlip of dirtybird records, dotbleep, and nightlight
>> music.
>>
>> J.Phlip, known to most as Jess or Jessica Rose Phillippe. She was
>> completely ruined when she discovered house music in her hometown of
>> Champaign, IL just 2 hours south of Chicago. This location might
>> help describe the how or why behind this unique genre bending blend
>> that Phlip brings to the dancefloor. Perhaps it was the proximity to
>> Chicago that let house music make its influence, but the distance
>> that allowed her the freedom to eventually welcome other sounds into
>> her mix. Her sets posses this fun lets-not-forget-this-is-dance-music
>> feeling and simultaneously keeps you guessing as to what might come
>> next. Her collection spans house, tech house, deep house, techno,
>> random bleeps, and special bloops.
>>
>> In 2005 she won 'Beauty and the Beats', a national DJ competition
>> help by BPM magazine, that lead to a tour with DJ Rap, Colette, and
>> Reid Speed. Since then she has made a name for herself as a DJ in
>> Chicago and now as DJ-slash-Producer in San Francisco.
>>
>> On her first release for dirtybird, "J" has created a track that is
>> both intricate and massive. A wall of devastating bass anchors
>> Rumble Rumble's assault, bolstered by an effervescent rhythmic net
>> of popcorn snaps, soda cans popping open, and seductive whispers and
>> giggles at the very edge of audibility. She has been a pivotal part
>> of Chicago's electronic music community for many years and has since
>> secured a residency at San Francisco's infamous Endup nightclub that
>> is notoriously know for non-stop never-ending parties. Look out for
>> J.Phlip's upcoming releases on Dotbleep, Alland Byallo's Nightlight
>> Music, and of course more Dirtybird!
>>
>> BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH.... and she needs to clean her room...
>>
>> oh lord and she SRSLY needs to do her laundry...
>>
>> You can download her promo mixes and find out more about her upcoming
>> events at her myspace page.
>>
>> Myspace:
>> http://hsomusic.com/sh/35
>>
>> Dirtybird Records Artist page:
>> http://hsomusic.com/sh/36
>>
>> You can find out more about Holt and his show at:
>> http://hsomusic.com/
>>
>> Upcoming Events for Holt:
>> 02/25 - Tryptich Restaurant
>> 03/08 - The Rhythm Room @ The EndUp
>>
>> Epiphany of Sound with J.C. - Th 9AM-12PM Pacific/US
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>>
>> After 14 years, DJ J.C.'s techno/house/electronica showcase has
>> garnered much attention and devotion. Like most folks at Stanford's
>> radio station, he's a volunteer, proving that his motivation isn't
>> a paycheck; it's his passion to share his interest in one of music's
>> most eclectic genres. With his conversational style, inclusion of
>> producers and musicians from both the local & international scene,
>> and his stewardship of the station's 24-hour marathons during
>> Solstices and Equinoxes, it's no wonder that DJ J.C has made a
>> connection with listeners in a very crowded market. Catch his live
>> broadcasts or listen to the previous week's program at underheard.org.
>>
>> J.C. will email this week if he has an update on any guests.
>>
>> Thanks for your support!!!
>>
>> --
>> Holt Sorenson/Eclektronik Groove
>> hso@hsomusic.com
>> hsomusic.com - myspace.com/hsomusic
>> KZSU (kzsulive.stanford.edu) show Th @ 6-9AM US/Pacific
>>
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Subject: [sfraves] NRR. surprised this hasn't been "discussed" heavily here over the 
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http://blogs.sfweekly.com/thesnitch/2009/02/legalize_it_ammiano_to_introdu.php

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I went to the love parade in San Fransisco with my girlfriend and it was the most fun ive ever had.



      
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Too good to be true...



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Subject: [sfraves] NRR. surprised this hasn't been "discussed" heavily here over the  weekend...

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wait until you try jenkem...

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> I went to the love parade in San Fransisco with my
> girlfriend and it was the most fun ive ever had.


      

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Yes its all the rage at raves these days.



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wait until you try jenkem...

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> girlfriend and it was the most fun ive ever had.


      

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That and those merry-go-round things for hyping yourself up after a nice hit of bananadine.  Wicked sick invention!



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Yes its all the rage at raves these days.



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wait until you try jenkem...

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--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [sfraves] Hello
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:07 PM
> I went to the love parade in San Fransisco with my
> girlfriend and it was the most fun ive ever had.


      

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Bananadine kills.




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That and those merry-go-round things for hyping yourself up after a nice hit of bananadine.  Wicked sick invention!



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Yes its all the rage at raves these days.



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wait until you try jenkem...

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blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah
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--- On Mon, 2/23/09, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [sfraves] Hello
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:07 PM
> I went to the love parade in San Fransisco with my
> girlfriend and it was the most fun ive ever had.


      

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shit.  you haven't lived until you've been "joosed".  nathan seven can explain the procedure to you.

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> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Hello
> To: "George Cochrane" <newstylesound@yahoo.com>, "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org, tonytouch510@yahoo.com
> Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 4:27 PM
> Bananadine kills.
> 
> 
> 
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> ----- Original Message ----
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> That and those merry-go-round things for hyping yourself up
> after a nice hit of bananadine.  Wicked sick invention!
> 
> 
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> Yes its all the rage at raves these days.
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> 
> wait until you try jenkem...
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> blah blah blah listen to my crappy music blah blah
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> > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [sfraves] Hello
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Monday, February 23, 2009, 2:07 PM
> > I went to the love parade in San Fransisco with my
> > girlfriend and it was the most fun ive ever had.
> 
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Subject: [sfraves] BSP - Dirty Secrets - underground this Saturday in SF

Saturday, 2/28/09

11PM - ???

Dirty Secrets

Dirty Secrets returns for another late night SF warehouse romp filled with
madcap hilarity and wacky hijinx!  With sets from SF veterans Galen, Rooz,
Andrew Phelan & Origami, Eric Sharp, Michael Anthony and Bo, this event will
be just how it sounds: raw, no frills, underground dance music.  Keep your
eyes and ears peeled for this edition's Secret location.

Music: 

Galen (sunset, pacific sound)

Rooz (djrooz.com)

Andrew Phelan & Origami (prismatic, drop music)

Eric Sharp (rock it science, flavor group)

Michael Anthony (supperclub)

Bo (back 2 basics)

Visuals by Heroic Robot

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hello back raver. `;)

peace love unity.

respecty,

sean.

Anthony Maxwell wrote:
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I was wondering if any raves go down in Berkeley. i cant figure out how to go to one in San Fransisco and get back before Bart stops running since they take place so late.



      
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That would be sweet, is it free?



      
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Why not just stay until BART is running again?



On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>wrote:

> I was wondering if any raves go down in Berkeley. i cant figure out how to
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> take place so late.
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Ben Haus wrote:
-&e->Why not just stay until BART is running again?

Sometimes you ask a list a question and you get an amateur answer, but not 
this time.  This is a pro answer, from a pro.

THIS IS HOW WE DO IT.
andyw

p.s. You can also look into AC Transit, which has all kinds of late night 
service across the bridge.  Or you can cab it (ridiculously expensive 
unless you go with a few people).  Or make plans to crash somewhere in SF 
till the BART is running.  Or borrow a car.  Or bum a ride.  Or rent a 
hotel room in SF.  Or ask your parents to pick you up.

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LOL!!! @--> Or ask your parents to pick you up.

no one really ever leaves a rave until the sun rises..

thats just how ravers do it!!! or they wait till bart opens up,
or catch a ride or crash at a friend house or rent a car 
or call their parents to pick them up :p

gotta love raves!!!




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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Ben Haus wrote:
-&e->Why not just stay until BART is running again?

Sometimes you ask a list a question and you get an amateur answer, but not 
this time.  This is a pro answer, from a pro.

THIS IS HOW WE DO IT.
andyw

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Or find Osby, you can go on an adventure while looking for a ride home!

On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> LOL!!! @--> Or ask your parents to pick you up.
>
> no one really ever leaves a rave until the sun rises..
>
> thats just how ravers do it!!! or they wait till bart opens up,
> or catch a ride or crash at a friend house or rent a car
> or call their parents to pick them up :p
>
> gotta love raves!!!
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Tue, 2/24/09, AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>* wrote:
>
> From: AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
> To: "Ben Haus" <benhaus@gmail.com>
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>
> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Ben Haus wrote:
> -&e->Why not just stay until BART is running again?
>
> Sometimes you
>  ask a list a question and you get an amateur answer, but not
> this time.  This is a pro answer, from a pro.
>
> THIS IS HOW WE DO IT.
> andyw
>
> p.s. You can also look into AC Transit, which has all kinds of late night
> service across the bridge.  Or you can cab it (ridiculously expensive
> unless you go with a few people).  Or make plans to crash somewhere in SF
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The Flaming Lotus Girls and The Ambient Mafia present:
SERPENT MOTHER ART RECEPTION  *  SATURDAY, 03.07.09

On Saturday March 7th, the Serpent will light up the Bay in an art opening =
gala reception from 7.00PM-midnight.

There has never been a sculpture like the Serpent Mother. The warmth of her=
 embrace and her coiling design create an atmospheric space in which over a=
 thousand people can stand. Her 168=E2=80=99 long stainless steel spine coi=
ls around the massive space, while her 20=E2=80=99 long neck and head tower=
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ovement, raising her hydraulically- actuated neck and opening her fanged mo=
uth. Full audience participation makes each installation a singular experie=
nce =E2=80=93 come make it happen.

This magnificent installation of a 168' skeletal stainless steel snake will=
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pent for a gallery opening from 7 pm until midnight. We hope you will join =
us for this fun and free event.

Music provided by The Ambient Mafia:
olde nasty vs. peek nasty
the captain vs. harken
shane
mino
redstickman

About the FLG:
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gn and construct kinetic, mechanical fire art. Our mission is to create mon=
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and active artists in their own right.

Our work =E2=80=93 a combination of sculptural arts, kinetics, robotics, el=
ectronics, and fire engineering - is designed collaboratively; made collabo=
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We create interactive large-scale fire installations that engages viewers a=
nd invite them to become part of the art.

Saturday, 3/7/09
7pm - Midnight

200 California Ave.
Treasure Island, SF
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GREEN LITE: Revolt! 
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help

ummmm... why???  Why the fuck would you wanna leave a party early & like
only stay there for like an hour, 2 hours at most??  hello 2day.. just
stay in the city & fuckin' wait 'til bart opens again man... i do... like
ever since my car got stolen back in the day & I've had to do these raver
gypsy adventures after the party ends, it's really no big & there's like a
few places I've hung out in 'til bart opens... Saturday bart opens around
6:15-6:30 AM & on sunday 8:15-8:30 AM!  Typically a party ends by 4-6, so
what's like an hour or 2 to wait for bart to open?  I mean... it sucks
when I go to some club on a Sat night & gotta wait from like 2-3 to 8AM..
but all the yummy mayhem I get into.. so fun!!!  I always tell people they
need to go on an adventure with me one weekend :)  So fuckin' fun!
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Anthony Maxwell wrote:
> I was wondering if any raves go down in Berkeley. i cant figure out how to
> go to one in San Fransisco and get back before Bart stops running since
> they take place so late.
>
>
>
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Subject: [sfraves] HA HA Re: [sfraves] Need some help

Lol... That's what i just replied... but ya know... there's almost always
some kinda afterparty ssomewhere after whatever shindig you that someone @
the party has the 411 on... or you can go to end up... or yeah.. even find
a ride home.. i mean.. that's like Berkeley... right there from the bridge
pretty much :)
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Ben Haus wrote:
> Or find Osby, you can go on an adventure while looking for a ride home!
>
> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Adriana <eesiad1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> LOL!!! @--> Or ask your parents to pick you up.
>>
>> no one really ever leaves a rave until the sun rises..
>>
>> thats just how ravers do it!!! or they wait till bart opens up,
>> or catch a ride or crash at a friend house or rent a car
>> or call their parents to pick them up :p
>>
>> gotta love raves!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 2/24/09, AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: AndyW <andy@saturn5.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
>> To: "Ben Haus" <benhaus@gmail.com>
>> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 2:22 PM
>>
>> On Tue, 24 Feb 2009, Ben Haus wrote:
>> -&e->Why not just stay until BART is running again?
>>
>> Sometimes you
>>  ask a list a question and you get an amateur answer, but not
>> this time.  This is a pro answer, from a pro.
>>
>> THIS IS HOW WE DO IT.
>> andyw
>>
>> p.s. You can also look into AC Transit, which has all kinds of late
>> night
>> service across the bridge.  Or you can cab it (ridiculously expensive
>> unless you go with a few people).  Or make plans to crash somewhere in
>> SF
>> till the BART is running.  Or borrow a car.  Or bum a ride.  Or rent a
>> hotel room in SF.  Or ask your parents to pick you up.
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I will take it further.  You have NOT experienced a San Francisco rave
UNTIL you have had an overnight adventure with Osby. :)

Just ask Uncle Grandfather, unless you want to be known as "retarded
hair guy" forever. :P

If you want the option of being boring, the AC Transit thing runs
until 4:30, at which point you're almost at BART open, so you never
need to wait more than about 2 hours for something cheap.  There are
ALWAYS after parties, too.



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e:
> ummmm... why??? =A0Why the fuck would you wanna leave a party early & lik=
e
> only stay there for like an hour, 2 hours at most?? =A0hello 2day.. just
> stay in the city & fuckin' wait 'til bart opens again man... i do... like
> ever since my car got stolen back in the day & I've had to do these raver
> gypsy adventures after the party ends, it's really no big & there's like =
a
> few places I've hung out in 'til bart opens... Saturday bart opens around
> 6:15-6:30 AM & on sunday 8:15-8:30 AM! =A0Typically a party ends by 4-6, =
so
> what's like an hour or 2 to wait for bart to open? =A0I mean... it sucks
> when I go to some club on a Sat night & gotta wait from like 2-3 to 8AM..
> but all the yummy mayhem I get into.. so fun!!! =A0I always tell people t=
hey
> need to go on an adventure with me one weekend :) =A0So fuckin' fun!
> --
> Take Care <3
> Peace=3D->Jus' Me =3D-> O=A7bY {8O)
>
>
>
> Anthony Maxwell wrote:
>> I was wondering if any raves go down in Berkeley. i cant figure out how =
to
>> go to one in San Fransisco and get back before Bart stops running since
>> they take place so late.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are still on my ass.


      

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Good morning everyone  =)

A remix I did of  for SubSensory Recordings of DJ Flipsta's 'Real Thugs' is
out today on Beatport.  The EP also features mixes from Mikiphone, Marko
Vilches, and DJ Jak.

Check it out here:
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/158863/Real%20Thugs

You can also hear the full track on my Soundcloud page:
www.soundcloud.com/cfaith


Love Chelsea

P.S. In case I haven't spammed you enough, my recently released EP 'Free
Spirit Lost Soul' is also on Beatport, here:
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/Free%20Spirit%20Lost%20Soul%20EP

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Bring them with you.

Peter

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One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are still on my ass.


      

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yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed



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> Bring them with you.
> 
> Peter
> 
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> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
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Hey, I was trying to be serious there.

Helping the kid out and stuff.

My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...

Peter



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yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed



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> Bring them with you.
> 
> Peter
> 
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> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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> still on my ass.
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ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really 17 and lives at home, good luck.  most "raves" are 18+ with more and more of them 21+.

unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty (i.e.:  sunset, lovefest) he's SOL.  my suggestion?  do it yourself.  throw your own event.  wait until the parents are out of town and do a houseparty.  :)

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> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> 
> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> 
> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
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> 
> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> 
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> 
> 
> 
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> > Bring them with you.
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> > Peter
> > 
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> > Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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> > One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3


That's really a nice track.  Perfect for the weather right now too...



----- Original Message ----
From: Chelsea Faith <chelcfaith@gmail.com>
To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>; * DEF-SF announce list <def-announce@defsf.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:49:36 AM
Subject: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3

Good morning everyone  =)

A remix I did of  for SubSensory Recordings of DJ Flipsta's 'Real Thugs' is
out today on Beatport.  The EP also features mixes from Mikiphone, Marko
Vilches, and DJ Jak.

Check it out here:
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/158863/Real%20Thugs

You can also hear the full track on my Soundcloud page:
www.soundcloud.com/cfaith


Love Chelsea

P.S. In case I haven't spammed you enough, my recently released EP 'Free
Spirit Lost Soul' is also on Beatport, here:
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/Free%20Spirit%20Lost%20Soul%20EP


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YES - same here forgot to reply :-)
Awesome mix - congrats you're kick'n butts and taking names!! Very cool pleasure to listen too.
Thanks

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport today <3
> To: "Chelsea Faith" <chelcfaith@gmail.com>, "SFR" <sfraves@hyperreal.org>, "* DEF-SF announce list" <def-announce@defsf.com>
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 12:03 PM
> That's really a nice track.  Perfect for the weather
> right now too...
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Chelsea Faith <chelcfaith@gmail.com>
> To: SFR <sfraves@hyperreal.org>; * DEF-SF announce
> list <def-announce@defsf.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 10:49:36 AM
> Subject: [sfraves] BSP - New C. Faith remix out on Beatport
> today <3
> 
> Good morning everyone  =)
> 
> A remix I did of  for SubSensory Recordings of DJ
> Flipsta's 'Real Thugs' is
> out today on Beatport.  The EP also features mixes from
> Mikiphone, Marko
> Vilches, and DJ Jak.
> 
> Check it out here:
> https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/158863/Real%20Thugs
> 
> You can also hear the full track on my Soundcloud page:
> www.soundcloud.com/cfaith
> 
> 
> Love Chelsea
> 
> P.S. In case I haven't spammed you enough, my recently
> released EP 'Free
> Spirit Lost Soul' is also on Beatport, here:
> https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/156470/Free%20Spirit%20Lost%20Soul%20EP
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There's 14 yr olds partying at raves.  If you're 17, I'm sure you can get
into quite a few parties.  Find a friend's house to spend the night at!
 There's also plenty of all age parties still going on, actually, I think
they have a max age limit of like 22.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, michael the redstickman <
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>
> ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really 17 and lives at home, good
> luck.  most "raves" are 18+ with more and more of them 21+.
>
> unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty (i.e.:  sunset, lovefest) he's
> SOL.  my suggestion?  do it yourself.  throw your own event.  wait until the
> parents are out of town and do a houseparty.  :)
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>,
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
> > Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> >
> > Helping the kid out and stuff.
> >
> > My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: michael the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> >
> > yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> >
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
> > > Bring them with you.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
> > > Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > >
> > > One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
> > > still on my ass.
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Kids these days...




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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:11:06 PM
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There's 14 yr olds partying at raves.  If you're 17, I'm sure you can get into quite a few parties.  Find a friend's house to spend the night at!  There's also plenty of all age parties still going on, actually, I think they have a max age limit of like 22.



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:


ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really 17 and lives at home, good luck.  most "raves" are 18+ with more and more of them 21+.

unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty (i.e.:  sunset, lovefest) he's SOL.  my suggestion?  do it yourself.  throw your own event.  wait until the parents are out of town and do a houseparty.  :)


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM

> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>
> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>
> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>
> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>
>
>
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> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
> > Bring them with you.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
> > Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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> > One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
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almost forgot!
www.Ravelinks.com



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 12:19 PM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Kids these days...
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> To: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org; dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> There's 14 yr olds partying at raves.  If you're 17, I'm sure you can get
> into quite a few parties.  Find a friend's house to spend the night at!
>  There's also plenty of all age parties still going on, actually, I think
> they have a max age limit of like 22.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, michael the redstickman <
> red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really 17 and lives at home, good
> luck.  most "raves" are 18+ with more and more of them 21+.
>
> unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty (i.e.:  sunset, lovefest) he's
> SOL.  my suggestion?  do it yourself.  throw your own event.  wait until the
> parents are out of town and do a houseparty.  :)
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>,
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
>
> > Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> >
> > Helping the kid out and stuff.
> >
> > My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: michael the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > dangrsmind@yahoo.com
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> >
> >
> > yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> >
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >
> >
> >
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> > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
> > > Bring them with you.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
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> > > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
> > > Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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Subject: [sfraves] speaking of raves...


Check out Syd Gris' new mix from Burning Man here: http://www.opelproductions.com/archives/000267.php

Yes yes I know burning man is not a rave.  STFU.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...

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On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

>
> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>
> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>
> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
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> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>
>
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>> Bring them with you.
>>
>> Peter
>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help


I like bacon.



----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...

-N7
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On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

>
> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>
> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>
> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;  
> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>
> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>> Bring them with you.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>>
>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>> still on my ass.
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> I like bacon.
>
>
>
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com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
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>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
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>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually. =A0Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
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>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3Djoosed
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
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>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

also you could get up online and party with you and your friends at home 
via the many many internet radio feeds out there. alot of them are 
posted at http://residentadvisor.net
also
blentwell.com has mixes for free DL so you can just cue up Itunes and 
have a party with I'n'I.

also you can subscribe to my feed:
radio-integrated-subscribe@defsf.com

whenever that happens.

doing your research as a youngster in the scene is important. it helps 
you know where things have been in the past and where things are going. 
raves are an enormously positive aspect of counterculture.


you do have a point nathan7. i kind of think there could be some 
phishing going on here. but let's help him out anyway by all legal means.

sean.

michael the redstickman wrote:
> ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really 17 and lives at home, good luck.  most "raves" are 18+ with more and more of them 21+.
>
> unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty (i.e.:  sunset, lovefest) he's SOL.  my suggestion?  do it yourself.  throw your own event.  wait until the parents are out of town and do a houseparty.  :)
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
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>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>
>>
>>
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>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
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>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
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>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as some pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall how that turned out.

There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be filmed doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would anyone do that?

He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.

Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown though...

Peter





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Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I like bacon.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
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> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
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>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>>
>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
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>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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well, that's why i suggested jenkem and joosin'.  both aren't illegal...yet!  (and they're fun!)

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com> wrote:

> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:07 PM
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
> 
> -N7
> --
> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> 
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> >
> > Helping the kid out and stuff.
> >
> > My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: michael the redstickman
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> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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> >
> > yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> >
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >
> >
> >
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> >> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
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> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
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> >> Bring them with you.
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
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> >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
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> >> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents
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whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday? 

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM

The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as some
pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall how
that turned out.

There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be filmed
doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
anyone do that?

He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.

Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
though...

Peter





----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
<red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I like bacon.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>> still on my ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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i was talking about the GOOD parties.  ;)

the prostitot ones have the worst music ever.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 12:11 PM
> There's 14 yr olds partying at raves.  If you're 17,
> I'm sure you can get
> into quite a few parties.  Find a friend's house to
> spend the night at!
>  There's also plenty of all age parties still going on,
> actually, I think
> they have a max age limit of like 22.
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, michael the redstickman
> <
> red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really
> 17 and lives at home, good
> > luck.  most "raves" are 18+ with more and
> more of them 21+.
> >
> > unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty
> (i.e.:  sunset, lovefest) he's
> > SOL.  my suggestion?  do it yourself.  throw your own
> event.  wait until the
> > parents are out of town and do a houseparty.  :)
> >
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> >
> > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > To: "michael the redstickman"
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>,
> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
> > > Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> > >
> > > Helping the kid out and stuff.
> > >
> > > My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> here...
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: michael the redstickman
> > > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > > dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > >
> > > yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> > >
> > >
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
> > > > Bring them with you.
> > > >
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10
> AM
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> > > >
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

My favorite joose nozzle's been put away for a while, but I'm down to  
break it out for a new friend-

Tony, you down?
Sorry no jenkem- my latest batch is still brewing-

-N7

On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:33 PM, michael the redstickman wrote:

>
> well, that's why i suggested jenkem and joosin'.  both aren't  
> illegal...yet!  (and they're fun!)
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com 
>> , sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:07 PM
>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>
>> -N7
>> --
>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>
>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>
>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: michael the redstickman
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
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>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell
>> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents
>> are
>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

ah, good point.  This is the same kid who enjoyed love fest or
something right? He didn't say what floats were his faves.  That
affects choices... :)



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:36 PM, michael the redstickman
<red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> i was talking about the GOOD parties. =A0;)
>
> the prostitot ones have the worst music ever.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Ben Haus <benhaus@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 12:11 PM
>> There's 14 yr olds partying at raves. =A0If you're 17,
>> I'm sure you can get
>> into quite a few parties. =A0Find a friend's house to
>> spend the night at!
>> =A0There's also plenty of all age parties still going on,
>> actually, I think
>> they have a max age limit of like 22.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 11:52 AM, michael the redstickman
>> <
>> red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > ok - in all seriousness, if "tony" is really
>> 17 and lives at home, good
>> > luck. =A0most "raves" are 18+ with more and
>> more of them 21+.
>> >
>> > unless "tony" can make it to a free dayparty
>> (i.e.: =A0sunset, lovefest) he's
>> > SOL. =A0my suggestion? =A0do it yourself. =A0throw your own
>> event. =A0wait until the
>> > parents are out of town and do a houseparty. =A0:)
>> >
>> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> > > To: "michael the redstickman"
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>,
>> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:39 AM
>> > > Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>> > >
>> > > Helping the kid out and stuff.
>> > >
>> > > My oldest son is 17 actually. =A0Wait a minute
>> here...
>> > >
>> > > Peter
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message ----
>> > > From: michael the redstickman
>> > > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> > > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
>> sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> > > dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>> > >
>> > >
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3Djoosed
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> > > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> > > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> > > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> > > > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
>> sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> > > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>> > > > Bring them with you.
>> > > >
>> > > > Peter
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message ----
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>> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>> > > > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
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I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but not "scene".

Things that make me go hmm.

Peter





----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday? 

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
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Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM

The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as some
pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall how
that turned out.

There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be filmed
doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
anyone do that?

He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.

Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
though...

Peter





----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
<red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I like bacon.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
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> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
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>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
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> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>
>>
>>
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>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>> still on my ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Things that make me go "HAM".

Hey Tony - a little secret:  none of us go to raves anymore.  We sit around the house, huff jenkem and watch "Dancing with the Stars" half-naked.  One guess as to which half is naked.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:42 PM
> I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but
> not "scene".
> 
> Things that make me go hmm.
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> 
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the
> rave scean and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out
> with you this saturday? 
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>,
> "michael the redstickman"
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
> 
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues
> as well as some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I
> don't recall how
> that turned out.
> 
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the
> story.  This guy is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing
> himself to be filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its
> true.  Why would
> anyone do that?
> 
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
> 
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall. 
> Anyone ever cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events
> being shown
> though...
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the
> redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> 
> mmm, bacon.
> 
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by
> now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
> 
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big
> Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
> trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but
> whatever.
> 
> -R.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, 
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I like bacon.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
> >
> > -N7
> > --
> > Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> >>
> >> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> >>
> >> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> here...
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> >> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> >> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>
> >>
> >> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> >>
> >>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
> >>> Bring them with you.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
> >>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my
> parents are
> >>> still on my ass.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Well considering how traffic has dropped like a brick here, this is the
busiest thread SFR has seen in over 3 months, it might be cool to figure out
if the kid is being sincere or not before throwing out innuendos and not so
subtle slams.

With Apollo gone we've lost one end of the spectrum and it can't hurt for
the scene, as it were, to refresh itself with new blood and jumping
somebody's shit before they've established their bona fides might not be the
most attractive way to go about it.

I'm just sayin'.

How old was Brian Behlendorf when he set this hub up?

....

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but not "scene".
>
> Things that make me go hmm.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and
> dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the redstickman" <
> red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall
> how
> that turned out.
>
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be
> filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
> anyone do that?
>
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
> though...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> mmm, bacon.
>
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>
> -R.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I like bacon.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
> >
> > -N7
> > --
> > Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> >
> > On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> >>
> >> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> >>
> >> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
> >>
> >> Peter
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> >> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> >> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>
> >>
> >> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> >>
> >> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
> >>> Bring them with you.
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
> >>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
> >>> still on my ass.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

Alright Tony- It's time to come clean-

What's up with this pen-spinning shit?
Is this really your contribution to humanity?

http://www.upsb.info/forum/index.php?showuser=1939

-N7

On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:42 PM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:

>
> I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but not "scene".
>
> Things that make me go hmm.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean  
> and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com 
> >, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well  
> as some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't  
> recall how
> that turned out.
>
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This  
> guy is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself  
> to be filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why  
> would
> anyone do that?
>
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever  
> cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
> though...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com;  
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> mmm, bacon.
>
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>
> -R.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I like bacon.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>
>> -N7
>> --
>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>
>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>
>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> wrote:
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>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>
>>>>
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I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My fave floats were the one with the Gold and the drum and bass one with the guy spitting reggae, me and my girl went crazy when the gold float started playing MGMT,forgot the name of the song but the lyrics are something like"control yourself, take only what you need from it". How can i prove im cool can i meet one of you or something.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM

I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but not
"scene".

Things that make me go hmm.

Peter





----- Original Message ----
From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and dont
exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday? 

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM

The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as some
pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall
how
that turned out.

There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be
filmed
doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
anyone do that?

He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.

Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
though...

Peter





----- Original Message ----
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To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
<red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I like bacon.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
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>>
>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>
>>
>>
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>> wrote:
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>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>> still on my ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Look at the last time i logged on to that site,I was bored and had no social life so what? Why am I getting such a hard time here? Do you guys really not rave anymore,and I dont plan on inhaling shit.



      
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ok - some "nice" advice:

1) join bayraves:  not many under 18 parties are posted here.

2) go down telegraph.  you live in berkeley, you should know where that is.  pick up some flyers.  check the age limit.  berkeley parties will probably have flyers in berkeley more than SF, so you have the jump on the underground tip in your city.

3) get a friend to drive you to/from the party.  if you don't have friends, hang out around telegraph and make some.

4) DIY.  really - if there aren't any parties in your area, throw one.  DJs are always willing to play for free if you are sincere and have a good heart behind what you're trying to do.





--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:49 PM
> Well considering how traffic has dropped like a brick here,
> this is the
> busiest thread SFR has seen in over 3 months, it might be
> cool to figure out
> if the kid is being sincere or not before throwing out
> innuendos and not so
> subtle slams.
> 
> With Apollo gone we've lost one end of the spectrum and
> it can't hurt for
> the scene, as it were, to refresh itself with new blood and
> jumping
> somebody's shit before they've established their
> bona fides might not be the
> most attractive way to go about it.
> 
> I'm just sayin'.
> 
> How old was Brian Behlendorf when he set this hub up?
> 
> ....
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM,
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I like how you can spell "phishing"
> correctly, but not "scene".
> >
> > Things that make me go hmm.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into
> the rave scean and
> > dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you
> this saturday?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> > Cc: "Nathan Seven"
> <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> redstickman" <
> > red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
> >
> > The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary
> issues as well as some
> > pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him
> arrested.  I don't recall
> > how
> > that turned out.
> >
> > There's some questions about the authenticity of
> the story.  This guy is
> > taking and selling E with his children present and
> allowing himself to be
> > filmed
> > doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if
> its true.  Why would
> > anyone do that?
> >
> > He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
> >
> > Also these people supposedly lived locally if I
> recall.  Anyone ever cross
> > paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham
> events being shown
> > though...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael
> the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > mmm, bacon.
> >
> > either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town
> Ecstasy by now, the
> > dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
> >
> > Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those
> big Bill Graham
> > Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
> trying to get
> > the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son,
> but whatever.
> >
> > -R.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, 
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I like bacon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > Cc: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > > I can't be the only one who smells bacon
> here...
> > >
> > > -N7
> > > --
> > > Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> > >
> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM,
> dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> > >>
> > >> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> > >>
> > >> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> here...
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > >> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > >> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05
> AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> > >>
> > >>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02
> AM
> > >>> Bring them with you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>> From: Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
> 8:21:10 AM
> > >>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> One problem im having is that im 17 and
> my parents are
> > >>> still on my ass.
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> > >>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

I've got 10 kliks of jenkem that need to be moved from SLO to San  
Bernadino- are you that cool?

-N7

On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Anthony Maxwell wrote:

> I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My fave floats  
> were the one with the Gold and the drum and bass one with the guy  
> spitting reggae, me and my girl went crazy when the gold float  
> started playing MGMT,forgot the name of the song but the lyrics are  
> something like"control yourself, take only what you need from it".  
> How can i prove im cool can i meet one of you or something.
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM
>
> I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but not
> "scene".
>
> Things that make me go hmm.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean  
> and dont
> exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well  
> as some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't  
> recall
> how
> that turned out.
>
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This  
> guy is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself  
> to be
> filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why  
> would
> anyone do that?
>
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever  
> cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
> though...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com;  
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> mmm, bacon.
>
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>
> -R.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I like bacon.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>
>> -N7
>> --
>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>
>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>
>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help

Yes yes I suppose I let my joose get a little loose- no hard time,  
just fun ribbing from bored geriatrics-

As stickman said- nothing of relevance is posted here anymore- this  
was the shit 10 years ago but not now.
You're in goddamn berkeley, talk to people.

-N7

On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:54 PM, Anthony Maxwell wrote:

> Look at the last time i logged on to that site,I was bored and had  
> no social life so what? Why am I getting such a hard time here? Do  
> you guys really not rave anymore,and I dont plan on inhaling shit.
>
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you're going to get that kid thrown in jail.

jenkem is some serious business - i think it's legal only if you have one klik.  more than one klik = jail time.  transporting with intent to sell = death row.

m

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com> wrote:

> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com
> Cc: dangrsmind@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:57 PM
> I've got 10 kliks of jenkem that need to be moved from
> SLO to San  
> Bernadino- are you that cool?
> 
> -N7
> 
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Anthony Maxwell wrote:
> 
> > I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My
> fave floats  
> > were the one with the Gold and the drum and bass one
> with the guy  
> > spitting reggae, me and my girl went crazy when the
> gold float  
> > started playing MGMT,forgot the name of the song but
> the lyrics are  
> > something like"control yourself, take only what
> you need from it".  
> > How can i prove im cool can i meet one of you or
> something.
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
> > wrote:
> > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM
> >
> > I like how you can spell "phishing"
> correctly, but not
> > "scene".
> >
> > Things that make me go hmm.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into
> the rave scean  
> > and dont
> > exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this
> saturday?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>  
> > wrote:
> > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> > Cc: "Nathan Seven"
> <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> > redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>,
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
> >
> > The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary
> issues as well  
> > as some
> > pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him
> arrested.  I don't  
> > recall
> > how
> > that turned out.
> >
> > There's some questions about the authenticity of
> the story.  This  
> > guy is
> > taking and selling E with his children present and
> allowing himself  
> > to be
> > filmed
> > doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if
> its true.  Why  
> > would
> > anyone do that?
> >
> > He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
> >
> > Also these people supposedly lived locally if I
> recall.  Anyone ever  
> > cross
> > paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham
> events being shown
> > though...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael
> the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com;  
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > mmm, bacon.
> >
> > either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town
> Ecstasy by now, the
> > dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
> >
> > Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those
> big Bill Graham
> > Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
> trying to get
> > the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son,
> but whatever.
> >
> > -R.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, 
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I like bacon.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> >> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >> Cc: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>
> >> I can't be the only one who smells bacon
> here...
> >>
> >> -N7
> >> --
> >> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> >>
> >> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> >>>
> >>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> >>>
> >>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> here...
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message ----
> >>> From: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> >>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02
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> >>>> Bring them with you.
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter
> >>>>
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> >>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
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> >>>>
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well, you're missing out.  jenkem is the shit.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [sfraves] Need some help
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:54 PM
> Look at the last time i logged on to that site,I was bored
> and had no social life so what? Why am I getting such a hard
> time here? Do you guys really not rave anymore,and I dont
> plan on inhaling shit.


      

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

the question is, is it 10 kliks stuffed into a 5 klik bag?

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com> wrote:
> I've got 10 kliks of jenkem that need to be moved from SLO to San Bernadi=
no-
> are you that cool?
>
> -N7
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Anthony Maxwell wrote:
>
>> I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My fave floats were th=
e
>> one with the Gold and the drum and bass one with the guy spitting reggae=
, me
>> and my girl went crazy when the gold float started playing MGMT,forgot t=
he
>> name of the song but the lyrics are something like"control yourself, tak=
e
>> only what you need from it". How can i prove im cool can i meet one of y=
ou
>> or something.
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM
>>
>> I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but not
>> "scene".
>>
>> Things that make me go hmm.
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and
>> dont
>> exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
>> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
>> redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
>> sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>>
>> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as so=
me
>> pretty bad judgment. =A0Also the ex-wife had him arrested. =A0I don't re=
call
>> how
>> that turned out.
>>
>> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story. =A0This guy =
is
>> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to b=
e
>> filmed
>> doing it? =A0He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true. =A0Why wo=
uld
>> anyone do that?
>>
>> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy? =A0Hmm.
>>
>> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall. =A0Anyone ever c=
ross
>> paths with them? =A0I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
>> though...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> mmm, bacon.
>>
>> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
>> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>>
>> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
>> Presents shows, not raves. =A0And the mom did seem to be trying to get
>> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>>
>> -R.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, =A0<dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I like bacon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>
>> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>>
>>> -N7
>>> --
>>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>>
>>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>>
>>>> My oldest son is 17 actually. =A0Wait a minute here...
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3Djoosed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Its not toxic or anything? Whats jooseing?

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
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Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:04 PM

well, you're missing out.  jenkem is the shit.


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [sfraves] Need some help
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:54 PM
> Look at the last time i logged on to that site,I was bored
> and had no social life so what? Why am I getting such a hard
> time here? Do you guys really not rave anymore,and I dont
> plan on inhaling shit.


      



      
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jenkem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem

getting joosed:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed

both are the shit.  but i wouldn't do them at the same time.  that's called "doubling" or "double-ending it" for future reference.



--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:06 PM
> Its not toxic or anything? Whats jooseing?
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, tonytouch510@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:04 PM
> 
> well, you're missing out.  jenkem is the shit.
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [sfraves] Need some help
> > To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:54 PM
> > Look at the last time i logged on to that site,I was
> bored
> > and had no social life so what? Why am I getting such
> a hard
> > time here? Do you guys really not rave anymore,and I
> dont
> > plan on inhaling shit.


      

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You're doing it wrong.

Step 1. Open cell phone
Step 2. Cue up Sandstorm by Darude.
Step 3. Lights out
Step 4. Rave!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABJxe_H2JBQ&feature=related



----- Original Message ----
From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:55:22 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help


ok - some "nice" advice:

1) join bayraves:  not many under 18 parties are posted here.

2) go down telegraph.  you live in berkeley, you should know where that is.  pick up some flyers.  check the age limit.  berkeley parties will probably have flyers in berkeley more than SF, so you have the jump on the underground tip in your city.

3) get a friend to drive you to/from the party.  if you don't have friends, hang out around telegraph and make some.

4) DIY.  really - if there aren't any parties in your area, throw one.  DJs are always willing to play for free if you are sincere and have a good heart behind what you're trying to do.





--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:49 PM
> Well considering how traffic has dropped like a brick here,
> this is the
> busiest thread SFR has seen in over 3 months, it might be
> cool to figure out
> if the kid is being sincere or not before throwing out
> innuendos and not so
> subtle slams.
> 
> With Apollo gone we've lost one end of the spectrum and
> it can't hurt for
> the scene, as it were, to refresh itself with new blood and
> jumping
> somebody's shit before they've established their
> bona fides might not be the
> most attractive way to go about it.
> 
> I'm just sayin'.
> 
> How old was Brian Behlendorf when he set this hub up?
> 
> ....
> 
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM,
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> > I like how you can spell "phishing"
> correctly, but not "scene".
> >
> > Things that make me go hmm.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into
> the rave scean and
> > dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you
> this saturday?
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> > Cc: "Nathan Seven"
> <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> redstickman" <
> > red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
> >
> > The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary
> issues as well as some
> > pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him
> arrested.  I don't recall
> > how
> > that turned out.
> >
> > There's some questions about the authenticity of
> the story.  This guy is
> > taking and selling E with his children present and
> allowing himself to be
> > filmed
> > doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if
> its true.  Why would
> > anyone do that?
> >
> > He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
> >
> > Also these people supposedly lived locally if I
> recall.  Anyone ever cross
> > paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham
> events being shown
> > though...
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael
> the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> >
> > mmm, bacon.
> >
> > either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town
> Ecstasy by now, the
> > dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
> >
> > Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those
> big Bill Graham
> > Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
> trying to get
> > the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son,
> but whatever.
> >
> > -R.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, 
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I like bacon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > Cc: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > > I can't be the only one who smells bacon
> here...
> > >
> > > -N7
> > > --
> > > Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> > >
> > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM,
> dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> > >>
> > >> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> > >>
> > >> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> here...
> > >>
> > >> Peter
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > >> From: michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > >> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > >> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05
> AM
> > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> > >>
> > >>
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02
> AM
> > >>> Bring them with you.
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > >>> From: Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
> 8:21:10 AM
> > >>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> One problem im having is that im 17 and
> my parents are
> > >>> still on my ass.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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> -- 
> Nyc Labrets
> 
> A Pen Warmed In Hell
> http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/
> 
> Rome With Television
> http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/
> 
> "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where
> people have laptops, cell
> phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod
> along with books."
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help

Oh like you've never been known to doubleup-
I recall a time when you were using your "special nozzle" on the  
crossfader-

-N7

On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:09 PM, michael the redstickman wrote:

>
> jenkem:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem
>
> getting joosed:
> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>
> both are the shit.  but i wouldn't do them at the same time.  that's  
> called "doubling" or "double-ending it" for future reference.
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
>> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:06 PM
>> Its not toxic or anything? Whats jooseing?
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, michael the redstickman
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> From: michael the redstickman
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, tonytouch510@yahoo.com
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:04 PM
>>
>> well, you're missing out.  jenkem is the shit.
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell
>> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: [sfraves] Need some help
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:54 PM
>>> Look at the last time i logged on to that site,I was
>> bored
>>> and had no social life so what? Why am I getting such
>> a hard
>>> time here? Do you guys really not rave anymore,and I
>> dont
>>> plan on inhaling shit.
>
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no - that was chester.  i threw that crossfader away...


--- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com> wrote:

> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
> To: "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org, tonytouch510@yahoo.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:11 PM
> Oh like you've never been known to doubleup-
> I recall a time when you were using your "special
> nozzle" on the  
> crossfader-
> 
> -N7
> 
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 2:09 PM, michael the redstickman wrote:
> 
> >
> > jenkem:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenkem
> >
> > getting joosed:
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> >
> > both are the shit.  but i wouldn't do them at the
> same time.  that's  
> > called "doubling" or "double-ending
> it" for future reference.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
> >> To: "michael the redstickman"
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 2:06 PM
> >> Its not toxic or anything? Whats jooseing?
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, michael the redstickman
> >> <red_stickman@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> From: michael the redstickman
> >> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] Need some help
> >> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org, tonytouch510@yahoo.com
> >> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:04 PM
> >>
> >> well, you're missing out.  jenkem is the shit.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Anthony Maxwell
> >> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: Anthony Maxwell
> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> >>> Subject: [sfraves] Need some help
> >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:54 PM
> >>> Look at the last time i logged on to that
> site,I was
> >> bored
> >>> and had no social life so what? Why am I
> getting such
> >> a hard
> >>> time here? Do you guys really not rave
> anymore,and I
> >> dont
> >>> plan on inhaling shit.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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On a serious note, why not enjoy some of the classic rave tapes and mixes?
Yah, I said it, tapes!  The horror of having to actually sit and listen to a
mix in its entirety!

http://www.ezeskankin.com/

Some good local legends to get you off on the right foot include:
Jeno
Garth
Tony
Simon
DJ Spun
Carlos
Dutch
etc etc etc



On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:09 PM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> You're doing it wrong.
>
> Step 1. Open cell phone
> Step 2. Cue up Sandstorm by Darude.
> Step 3. Lights out
> Step 4. Rave!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABJxe_H2JBQ&feature=related
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:55:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
>
> ok - some "nice" advice:
>
> 1) join bayraves:  not many under 18 parties are posted here.
>
> 2) go down telegraph.  you live in berkeley, you should know where that is.
>  pick up some flyers.  check the age limit.  berkeley parties will probably
> have flyers in berkeley more than SF, so you have the jump on the
> underground tip in your city.
>
> 3) get a friend to drive you to/from the party.  if you don't have friends,
> hang out around telegraph and make some.
>
> 4) DIY.  really - if there aren't any parties in your area, throw one.  DJs
> are always willing to play for free if you are sincere and have a good heart
> behind what you're trying to do.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:49 PM
> > Well considering how traffic has dropped like a brick here,
> > this is the
> > busiest thread SFR has seen in over 3 months, it might be
> > cool to figure out
> > if the kid is being sincere or not before throwing out
> > innuendos and not so
> > subtle slams.
> >
> > With Apollo gone we've lost one end of the spectrum and
> > it can't hurt for
> > the scene, as it were, to refresh itself with new blood and
> > jumping
> > somebody's shit before they've established their
> > bona fides might not be the
> > most attractive way to go about it.
> >
> > I'm just sayin'.
> >
> > How old was Brian Behlendorf when he set this hub up?
> >
> > ....
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM,
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I like how you can spell "phishing"
> > correctly, but not "scene".
> > >
> > > Things that make me go hmm.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > > whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into
> > the rave scean and
> > > dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you
> > this saturday?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> > > Cc: "Nathan Seven"
> > <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> > redstickman" <
> > > red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
> > >
> > > The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary
> > issues as well as some
> > > pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him
> > arrested.  I don't recall
> > > how
> > > that turned out.
> > >
> > > There's some questions about the authenticity of
> > the story.  This guy is
> > > taking and selling E with his children present and
> > allowing himself to be
> > > filmed
> > > doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if
> > its true.  Why would
> > > anyone do that?
> > >
> > > He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
> > >
> > > Also these people supposedly lived locally if I
> > recall.  Anyone ever cross
> > > paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham
> > events being shown
> > > though...
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael
> > the redstickman
> > > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > > mmm, bacon.
> > >
> > > either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town
> > Ecstasy by now, the
> > > dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
> > >
> > > Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those
> > big Bill Graham
> > > Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
> > trying to get
> > > the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son,
> > but whatever.
> > >
> > > -R.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I like bacon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> > > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > > Cc: michael the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >
> > > > I can't be the only one who smells bacon
> > here...
> > > >
> > > > -N7
> > > > --
> > > > Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM,
> > dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> > > >>
> > > >> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> > > >>
> > > >> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> > here...
> > > >>
> > > >> Peter
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >> From: michael the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > > >> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > > >> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05
> > AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02
> > AM
> > > >>> Bring them with you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Peter
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >>> From: Anthony Maxwell
> > <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
> > 8:21:10 AM
> > > >>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> One problem im having is that im 17 and
> > my parents are
> > > >>> still on my ass.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >
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> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Nyc Labrets
> >
> > A Pen Warmed In Hell
> > http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Rome With Television
> > http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/
> >
> > "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where
> > people have laptops, cell
> > phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod
> > along with books."
> > Harper Lee, 2006
>
>
>
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Lightswitch Raves are more fun

http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail45.html

...

On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:09 PM, <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> You're doing it wrong.
>
> Step 1. Open cell phone
> Step 2. Cue up Sandstorm by Darude.
> Step 3. Lights out
> Step 4. Rave!
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABJxe_H2JBQ&feature=related
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
> Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:55:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
>
> ok - some "nice" advice:
>
> 1) join bayraves:  not many under 18 parties are posted here.
>
> 2) go down telegraph.  you live in berkeley, you should know where that is.
>  pick up some flyers.  check the age limit.  berkeley parties will probably
> have flyers in berkeley more than SF, so you have the jump on the
> underground tip in your city.
>
> 3) get a friend to drive you to/from the party.  if you don't have friends,
> hang out around telegraph and make some.
>
> 4) DIY.  really - if there aren't any parties in your area, throw one.  DJs
> are always willing to play for free if you are sincere and have a good heart
> behind what you're trying to do.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Nyc Labrets <digitalcomponents@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > Cc: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 1:49 PM
> > Well considering how traffic has dropped like a brick here,
> > this is the
> > busiest thread SFR has seen in over 3 months, it might be
> > cool to figure out
> > if the kid is being sincere or not before throwing out
> > innuendos and not so
> > subtle slams.
> >
> > With Apollo gone we've lost one end of the spectrum and
> > it can't hurt for
> > the scene, as it were, to refresh itself with new blood and
> > jumping
> > somebody's shit before they've established their
> > bona fides might not be the
> > most attractive way to go about it.
> >
> > I'm just sayin'.
> >
> > How old was Brian Behlendorf when he set this hub up?
> >
> > ....
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 4:42 PM,
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I like how you can spell "phishing"
> > correctly, but not "scene".
> > >
> > > Things that make me go hmm.
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > > whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into
> > the rave scean and
> > > dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you
> > this saturday?
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> > > Cc: "Nathan Seven"
> > <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> > redstickman" <
> > > red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
> > >
> > > The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary
> > issues as well as some
> > > pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him
> > arrested.  I don't recall
> > > how
> > > that turned out.
> > >
> > > There's some questions about the authenticity of
> > the story.  This guy is
> > > taking and selling E with his children present and
> > allowing himself to be
> > > filmed
> > > doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if
> > its true.  Why would
> > > anyone do that?
> > >
> > > He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
> > >
> > > Also these people supposedly lived locally if I
> > recall.  Anyone ever cross
> > > paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham
> > events being shown
> > > though...
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael
> > the redstickman
> > > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > >
> > > mmm, bacon.
> > >
> > > either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town
> > Ecstasy by now, the
> > > dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
> > >
> > > Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those
> > big Bill Graham
> > > Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
> > trying to get
> > > the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son,
> > but whatever.
> > >
> > > -R.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I like bacon.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> > > > To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > > Cc: michael the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
> > > tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >
> > > > I can't be the only one who smells bacon
> > here...
> > > >
> > > > -N7
> > > > --
> > > > Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
> > > >
> > > > On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM,
> > dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
> > > >>
> > > >> Helping the kid out and stuff.
> > > >>
> > > >> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
> > here...
> > > >>
> > > >> Peter
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >> From: michael the redstickman
> > <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
> > > >> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org;
> > > >> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05
> > AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> > <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> > > >>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> > sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02
> > AM
> > > >>> Bring them with you.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Peter
> > > >>>
> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----
> > > >>> From: Anthony Maxwell
> > <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> > > >>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009
> > 8:21:10 AM
> > > >>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> One problem im having is that im 17 and
> > my parents are
> > > >>> still on my ass.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > --
> > Nyc Labrets
> >
> > A Pen Warmed In Hell
> > http://www.aPenWarmedInHell.blogspot.com/
> >
> > Rome With Television
> > http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/
> >
> > "Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where
> > people have laptops, cell
> > phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod
> > along with books."
> > Harper Lee, 2006
>
>
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http://RomeWithTelevision.blogspot.com/

"Now, 75 years later in an abundant society where people have laptops, cell
phones, iPods, and minds like empty rooms, I still plod along with books."
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A good way to earn your cred around here is to share information about yourself.

1. Start with the music.  Who are your favorite artists?  What genres do you like?  Why?
2. How did you get into electronic music?  When? Where? Why?
3. Pen spinning?  Please explain.
4. Berkeley? I assume you a BHS student.  Who is your favorite teacher?

No one cares if you are 17 or 107, if you are intelligent, interested in the music, and not an irresponsible dumb ass.

Peter







________________________________
From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:49:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help


I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My fave floats were the one with the Gold and the drum and bass one with the guy spitting reggae, me and my girl went crazy when the gold float started playing MGMT,forgot the name of the song but the lyrics are something like"control yourself, take only what you need from it". How can i prove im cool can i meet one of you or something.

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM


I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but
 not
"scene".

Things that make me go hmm.

Peter





----- Original Message ----
From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and dont
exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday? 

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM

The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues
 as well as some
pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall
how
that turned out.

There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be
filmed
doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
anyone do that?

He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.

Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
though...

Peter





----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
<red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some
 help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I like bacon.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
>
 Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>>
>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
 <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>> still on my
 ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

some background for you on what is rave. i kind of wish i had wikipedia 
when i was getting into raves. i spent untold hours on boards and lists 
like this conversing with techno heads around the world in 
alt.music.techno to get a feel for what is really going on in newsgroups 
way back when.

fortunately for our friend (who's chosen e-mail name bears a striking 
resemblance to a new york hiphop mixtape icon) wikipedia is here to stay 
as the world collective consciousness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_(music)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music/History_of_House_Music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLUR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLF
learn to love the absurdity and awesomeness of the JAMs
http://www.klf-communications.net/

and here are some fun sites that i like that may help you get more 
familiar with the music and culture:

http://fusionanomaly.net/
this site is a mega spiral with an emphasis on psytrance culture. love it.

online publications:
http://www.xlr8r.com/
these guys used to be the shit but are a bunch of punks now.. but they 
are still on the cutting edge, admittedly. they still owe me an original 
playstation from a contest i won yeeears ago. am i bitter? maybe. lol. 
if you guys feel like buying me a PS3, all is forgiven.

http://www.bpmmagazine.net/
still good, always a bit 'bosh' though.

http://emusician.com/
always just a little ahead of the game.

http://remixmag.com/
a dj friendly publication, always a fun read. mostly for djs and remixers.

http://residentadvisor.net
mentioned this one before but its a pretty important one.

music related searches and buying sources:
http://www.last.fm/
http://www.nuloop.com/en/
http://www.dancerecords.com/
http://www.beatport.com/
http://songza.com/
http://gemm.com/
http://www.discogs.com/
http://boomkat.com/

gotta give props to:
http://hyperreal.org/
its why we're here today. http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html

http://www.youtube.com
is also a great source for historical references to EDM. just type in an 
artist you might be interested in.

and lastly, my little site that could:
http://www.defsf.com

i feel like this is a great time to be getting into electronic music and 
raves. there are so many directions for the EDM scene to go in and 
everything is fresh again. especially now that absolutely everything is 
online now. its easier to just get wired up and all up in this worldwide 
scene in a hurry. no matter where you go in the world you can just find 
information about undergrounds and club culture, buy cheap tracks and 
follow any dj anywhere in the world. its a fantastic completely open 
secret. if people want to know, they will. and we are always here with 
welcoming arms for those willing to embrace our culture. i'm sure you 
will find that rave is not just a scene its a lifestyle choice that 
shares a similarity to punk.

i hope you find your knit anthony, and you are welcome to ask me any 
questions as long they are about the culture and getting in touch with 
what is real about the scene and your responsible role within it. be 
courteous and open-minded and all will be apparent.

respect,
sean.

Anthony Maxwell wrote:
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday? 
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall how
> that turned out.
>
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
> anyone do that?
>
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
> though...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> mmm, bacon.
>
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>
> -R.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> I like bacon.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>     
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>   
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>
>> -N7
>> --
>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>
>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>
>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: RE: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

It's all about the TAZ.

-----Original Message-----
From: sean ocean [mailto:seanocean@defsf.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:04 PM
To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com
Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

some background for you on what is rave. i kind of wish i had wikipedia=20
when i was getting into raves. i spent untold hours on boards and lists=20
like this conversing with techno heads around the world in=20
alt.music.techno to get a feel for what is really going on in newsgroups

way back when.

fortunately for our friend (who's chosen e-mail name bears a striking=20
resemblance to a new york hiphop mixtape icon) wikipedia is here to stay

as the world collective consciousness:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_(music)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music/History_of_House_Music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLUR

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLF
learn to love the absurdity and awesomeness of the JAMs
http://www.klf-communications.net/

and here are some fun sites that i like that may help you get more=20
familiar with the music and culture:

http://fusionanomaly.net/
this site is a mega spiral with an emphasis on psytrance culture. love
it.

online publications:
http://www.xlr8r.com/
these guys used to be the shit but are a bunch of punks now.. but they=20
are still on the cutting edge, admittedly. they still owe me an original

playstation from a contest i won yeeears ago. am i bitter? maybe. lol.=20
if you guys feel like buying me a PS3, all is forgiven.

http://www.bpmmagazine.net/
still good, always a bit 'bosh' though.

http://emusician.com/
always just a little ahead of the game.

http://remixmag.com/
a dj friendly publication, always a fun read. mostly for djs and
remixers.

http://residentadvisor.net
mentioned this one before but its a pretty important one.

music related searches and buying sources:
http://www.last.fm/
http://www.nuloop.com/en/
http://www.dancerecords.com/
http://www.beatport.com/
http://songza.com/
http://gemm.com/
http://www.discogs.com/
http://boomkat.com/

gotta give props to:
http://hyperreal.org/
its why we're here today. http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html

http://www.youtube.com
is also a great source for historical references to EDM. just type in an

artist you might be interested in.

and lastly, my little site that could:
http://www.defsf.com

i feel like this is a great time to be getting into electronic music and

raves. there are so many directions for the EDM scene to go in and=20
everything is fresh again. especially now that absolutely everything is=20
online now. its easier to just get wired up and all up in this worldwide

scene in a hurry. no matter where you go in the world you can just find=20
information about undergrounds and club culture, buy cheap tracks and=20
follow any dj anywhere in the world. its a fantastic completely open=20
secret. if people want to know, they will. and we are always here with=20
welcoming arms for those willing to embrace our culture. i'm sure you=20
will find that rave is not just a scene its a lifestyle choice that=20
shares a similarity to punk.

i hope you find your knit anthony, and you are welcome to ask me any=20
questions as long they are about the culture and getting in touch with=20
what is real about the scene and your responsible role within it. be=20
courteous and open-minded and all will be apparent.

respect,
sean.

Anthony Maxwell wrote:
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean
and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?=20
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the redstickman"
<red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as
some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't
recall how
> that turned out.
>
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy
is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to
be filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why
would
> anyone do that?
>
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever
cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
> though...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> mmm, bacon.
>
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>
> -R.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>  =20
>> I like bacon.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>    =20
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>  =20
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>
>> -N7
>> --
>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>    =20
>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>
>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>
>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3Djoosed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      =20
>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Here we go again... time to Pulse! We're beside ourselves with excitement about this month's lineup, and who wouldn't be with Forest Green at the helm? Not only is she gracing the decks with a headlining set, it's also her birthday! So come on out this Friday and show your love and support for one of our most hard working and dedicated friends. Co-headlining is Dory, back in the States after her European tour, ready to rock your socks with a whole slew of hot new tracks yet to be heard by a US dance floor. All this and more goodness on a newly upgraded main floor sound system! And as always, all proceeds are donated to a local non-profit. This month's recipient is Kids for the Bay, an award-winning environmental group educating Bay Area youth and teachers for over 15 years. =)

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Friday :: February 27 :: 2009 (((...Pulse...))) 

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Benefiting Kids for the Bay www.kidsforthebay.org 

Forest Green's Birthday Party!!! 

Downstairs: Forest Green (ForestGreen.org | Cute Fang Recordings | Cute Things With Fangs | myspace.com/forestgreen) 
Dory (listed | Pacifictime | Dialogue, LA)
Mozaic (Nexus | Raindance) 
Eric Sharp (Rock It Science | Flavor Group) 
+ Pulse Residents Dhamma & Alixr 

Upstairs: M.O.D. (Evil Breaks | Strategik) 
Dulce Vita (Opulent Temple | TheFreakShow) 
Melyss (Opel | Sister SF) 

Visuals by Viberation 

9pm to 4am 21+ with ID 

$10 before 11pm $15 after 

Paradise Lounge 
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Hey SFR peeps.

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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

that guy has been known to provide a biased slant. i wanted the lad to 
learn on his own and form his own opinions based on what he found. 
though the tiesto comic is still a classic if you have that.

this guide takes me back to some cool trance i used to listen to like 
lazonby.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPYO-gkqtrE

remember when people in electronic music tried really really hard and 
indy labels had to kiss ass to Sire and TVT? maybe beatport isn't so 
good for putting out music..? the ubiquity of fast cheap and dirty 
distro cheapens the music i think. maybe if more people had the 
mentality that they had to compete with major labels they would try 
harder. i think when i first saw the lazonby sleeve i came to this 
conclusion like a way long time ago. he had his image up there like he 
was front 242 or something. lol. baby ford also verified this conclusion 
to me when i asked myself why 1992 was sucha  great year for electronic 
music.. BFORD9 was put out on sire which put out Yaz(oo) and Depeche 
Mode which went on to be eaten up by WEA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbqrg6-XmsI

michael the redstickman wrote:
> surprised you left out ishkur's guide:
>
> http://techno.org/electronic-music-guide/
>
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: sean ocean <seanocean@defsf.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com
>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 3:04 PM
>> some background for you on what is rave. i kind of wish i
>> had wikipedia 
>> when i was getting into raves. i spent untold hours on
>> boards and lists 
>> like this conversing with techno heads around the world in 
>> alt.music.techno to get a feel for what is really going on
>> in newsgroups 
>> way back when.
>>
>> fortunately for our friend (who's chosen e-mail name
>> bears a striking 
>> resemblance to a new york hiphop mixtape icon) wikipedia is
>> here to stay 
>> as the world collective consciousness:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_(music)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music/History_of_House_Music
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLUR
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLF
>> learn to love the absurdity and awesomeness of the JAMs
>> http://www.klf-communications.net/
>>
>> and here are some fun sites that i like that may help you
>> get more 
>> familiar with the music and culture:
>>
>> http://fusionanomaly.net/
>> this site is a mega spiral with an emphasis on psytrance
>> culture. love it.
>>
>> online publications:
>> http://www.xlr8r.com/
>> these guys used to be the shit but are a bunch of punks
>> now.. but they 
>> are still on the cutting edge, admittedly. they still owe
>> me an original 
>> playstation from a contest i won yeeears ago. am i bitter?
>> maybe. lol. 
>> if you guys feel like buying me a PS3, all is forgiven.
>>
>> http://www.bpmmagazine.net/
>> still good, always a bit 'bosh' though.
>>
>> http://emusician.com/
>> always just a little ahead of the game.
>>
>> http://remixmag.com/
>> a dj friendly publication, always a fun read. mostly for
>> djs and remixers.
>>
>> http://residentadvisor.net
>> mentioned this one before but its a pretty important one.
>>
>> music related searches and buying sources:
>> http://www.last.fm/
>> http://www.nuloop.com/en/
>> http://www.dancerecords.com/
>> http://www.beatport.com/
>> http://songza.com/
>> http://gemm.com/
>> http://www.discogs.com/
>> http://boomkat.com/
>>
>> gotta give props to:
>> http://hyperreal.org/
>> its why we're here today.
>> http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com
>> is also a great source for historical references to EDM.
>> just type in an 
>> artist you might be interested in.
>>
>> and lastly, my little site that could:
>> http://www.defsf.com
>>
>> i feel like this is a great time to be getting into
>> electronic music and 
>> raves. there are so many directions for the EDM scene to go
>> in and 
>> everything is fresh again. especially now that absolutely
>> everything is 
>> online now. its easier to just get wired up and all up in
>> this worldwide 
>> scene in a hurry. no matter where you go in the world you
>> can just find 
>> information about undergrounds and club culture, buy cheap
>> tracks and 
>> follow any dj anywhere in the world. its a fantastic
>> completely open 
>> secret. if people want to know, they will. and we are
>> always here with 
>> welcoming arms for those willing to embrace our culture.
>> i'm sure you 
>> will find that rave is not just a scene its a lifestyle
>> choice that 
>> shares a similarity to punk.
>>
>> i hope you find your knit anthony, and you are welcome to
>> ask me any 
>> questions as long they are about the culture and getting in
>> touch with 
>> what is real about the scene and your responsible role
>> within it. be 
>> courteous and open-minded and all will be apparent.
>>
>> respect,
>> sean.
>>
>> Anthony Maxwell wrote:
>>     
>>> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into
>>>       
>> the rave scean and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang
>> out with you this saturday? 
>>     
>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>       
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>       
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>     
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
>>> Cc: "Nathan Seven"
>>>       
>> <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
>> redstickman" <red_stickman@yahoo.com>,
>> tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>     
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>>>
>>> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary
>>>       
>> issues as well as some
>>     
>>> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him
>>>       
>> arrested.  I don't recall how
>>     
>>> that turned out.
>>>
>>> There's some questions about the authenticity of
>>>       
>> the story.  This guy is
>>     
>>> taking and selling E with his children present and
>>>       
>> allowing himself to be filmed
>>     
>>> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if
>>>       
>> its true.  Why would
>>     
>>> anyone do that?
>>>
>>> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>>>
>>> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I
>>>       
>> recall.  Anyone ever cross
>>     
>>> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham
>>>       
>> events being shown
>>     
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
>>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael
>>>       
>> the redstickman
>>     
>>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>>       
>> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>     
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>> mmm, bacon.
>>>
>>> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town
>>>       
>> Ecstasy by now, the
>>     
>>> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>>>
>>> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those
>>>       
>> big Bill Graham
>>     
>>> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be
>>>       
>> trying to get
>>     
>>> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son,
>>>       
>> but whatever.
>>     
>>> -R.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM, 
>>>       
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>     
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> I like bacon.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>>>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>> Cc: michael the redstickman
>>>>         
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>     
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon
>>>>         
>> here...
>>     
>>>> -N7
>>>> --
>>>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>>         
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>>>
>>>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute
>>>>>           
>> here...
>>     
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: michael the redstickman
>>>>>           
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>     
>>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
>>>>>           
>> sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>     
>>>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>     
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>>>           
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>     
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>>>>             
>> <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>     
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
>>>>>>             
>> sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>     
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02
>>>>>>             
>> AM
>>     
>>>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell
>>>>>>             
>> <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>     
>>>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10
>>>>>>             
>> AM
>>     
>>>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my
>>>>>>             
>> parents are
>>     
>>>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] NRR: Klipsch KG3 speakers for sale - $80 (set of two)

i used to have the KG4s back in Mpls and let me tell you, they THUMP
like a mofo!

im assuming the KG3s are just a bit smaller.

more party rockers than studio monitors, but this seems like a good
deal for this very solid pair of speaks.

----> GB



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> Hey SFR peeps.
>
> Got a pair of Klipsch KG3 speakers for sale. Here is the Craigslist
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> Ping me if interested!
>
> tala
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> Pronunciation: 't=E4-l&
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> Etymology: Sanskrit tAla, literally, hand-clapping
> : one of the ancient traditional rhythmic patterns of Indian music --
> compare RAGA
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My fav mix is wanna take a trip by Brandon Phantom, everyone go to genxglow=
..com and download it now. Its hard to say what my fav music genre is but th=
e top three would have to be hard style, DnB and trance. I love how trance =
gets me all relaxed and chill.I like the throbbing bass in hard style and D=
nb is is just good.
I probably got into electronic because of my older brother andrew, He used =
to play it all the time and at one time he even got a pair of techniques an=
d spun at home,unfortunately hes bi-polar so hes hospitalized right now. Wh=
en he gets out i cant wait=A0 to a party with him.

I used to be bored so i would take up different hobbies one of the is pen s=
pinning,its basically=A0 how it sounds you spin the pen around your hand,Iv=
e been doing it for a while so im pretty good at this point,one thing ive a=
lways though about is making a glow pen and giving some one a light show li=
ke that lol. =3DD

Yep i go to berkeley high, my fav teacher would have to be Mr. Barid, Im in=
 a IB English class with him and I just enjoy it for some reason.
--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:24 PM

A good way to earn your cred around here is to share information about your=
self.

1. Start with the music.=A0 Who are your favorite artists?=A0 What genres d=
o you like?=A0 Why?
2. How did you get into electronic music?=A0 When? Where? Why?
3. Pen spinning?=A0 Please explain.
4. Berkeley? I assume you a BHS student.=A0 Who is your favorite teacher?

No one cares if you are 17 or 107, if you are intelligent, interested in th=
e music, and not an irresponsible dumb ass.

Peter




From:
 Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:49:53 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help


I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My fave floats were the o=
ne with the Gold and the drum and bass one with the guy spitting reggae, me=
 and my girl went crazy when the gold float started playing MGMT,forgot the=
 name of the song but the lyrics are something like"control yourself, take =
only what you need from it". How can i prove im cool can i meet one of you =
or something.

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need
 some help
To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM

I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but
 not
"scene".

Things that make me go hmm.

Peter





----- Original Message ----
From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and don=
t
exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?=20

--- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
redstickman"
 <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
sfraves@hyperreal.org
Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM

The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues
 as well as some
pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall
how
that turned out.

There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be
filmed
doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
anyone do that?

He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.

Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
though...

Peter





----- Original Message ----
From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>;
 michael the redstickman
<red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some
 help

mmm, bacon.

either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
dad in that got into it because of his son. :)

Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.

-R.


On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> I like bacon.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent:
 Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>
> -N7
> --
>
 Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>
>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>
>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>>
>> yeah, it takes two
 (or more) to get joosed...
>>
>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=3Djoosed
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
 <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>> Bring them with you.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some
 help
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>> still on my
 ass.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

I have to say this is the single thread where I've read every message  
in, oh, 6 months? maybe more? I've been lurking on this list for maybe  
3 years, since I moved here, and have actually only been to one EDM  
event in that time period. But this thread, for a variety of reasons,  
makes me a little excited again. It has a little to do with the snark,  
to be honest, because it reminds me of good old nw-raves, where I cut  
my very own teeth and made friends. It has a little to do with the  
links being shared because it makes me feel like I know what I'm  
talking about again, even though I totally don't - and haven't for at  
least 6 years. And it has a little to do with the earnest responses  
given to a seemingly genuine kid with questions.

Ahh, to be a raver again. So, my interest is piqued! Keep me reading!  
Get me involved! I've got time and energy to give, but not so many  
skills or connections.

Hi everyone, I'm Colleen. Once upon a time, I was active up in  
Seattle. That was 10 years ago. Now I am not that old and out of  
touch. Bring me back into the fray?

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On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Faustine wrote:

> It's all about the TAZ.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sean ocean [mailto:seanocean@defsf.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:04 PM
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com
> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> some background for you on what is rave. i kind of wish i had  
> wikipedia
> when i was getting into raves. i spent untold hours on boards and  
> lists
> like this conversing with techno heads around the world in
> alt.music.techno to get a feel for what is really going on in  
> newsgroups
>
> way back when.
>
> fortunately for our friend (who's chosen e-mail name bears a striking
> resemblance to a new york hiphop mixtape icon) wikipedia is here to  
> stay
>
> as the world collective consciousness:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_(music)
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music/History_of_House_Music
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLUR
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLF
> learn to love the absurdity and awesomeness of the JAMs
> http://www.klf-communications.net/
>
> and here are some fun sites that i like that may help you get more
> familiar with the music and culture:
>
> http://fusionanomaly.net/
> this site is a mega spiral with an emphasis on psytrance culture. love
> it.
>
> online publications:
> http://www.xlr8r.com/
> these guys used to be the shit but are a bunch of punks now.. but they
> are still on the cutting edge, admittedly. they still owe me an  
> original
>
> playstation from a contest i won yeeears ago. am i bitter? maybe. lol.
> if you guys feel like buying me a PS3, all is forgiven.
>
> http://www.bpmmagazine.net/
> still good, always a bit 'bosh' though.
>
> http://emusician.com/
> always just a little ahead of the game.
>
> http://remixmag.com/
> a dj friendly publication, always a fun read. mostly for djs and
> remixers.
>
> http://residentadvisor.net
> mentioned this one before but its a pretty important one.
>
> music related searches and buying sources:
> http://www.last.fm/
> http://www.nuloop.com/en/
> http://www.dancerecords.com/
> http://www.beatport.com/
> http://songza.com/
> http://gemm.com/
> http://www.discogs.com/
> http://boomkat.com/
>
> gotta give props to:
> http://hyperreal.org/
> its why we're here today. http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html
>
> http://www.youtube.com
> is also a great source for historical references to EDM. just type  
> in an
>
> artist you might be interested in.
>
> and lastly, my little site that could:
> http://www.defsf.com
>
> i feel like this is a great time to be getting into electronic music  
> and
>
> raves. there are so many directions for the EDM scene to go in and
> everything is fresh again. especially now that absolutely everything  
> is
> online now. its easier to just get wired up and all up in this  
> worldwide
>
> scene in a hurry. no matter where you go in the world you can just  
> find
> information about undergrounds and club culture, buy cheap tracks and
> follow any dj anywhere in the world. its a fantastic completely open
> secret. if people want to know, they will. and we are always here with
> welcoming arms for those willing to embrace our culture. i'm sure you
> will find that rave is not just a scene its a lifestyle choice that
> shares a similarity to punk.
>
> i hope you find your knit anthony, and you are welcome to ask me any
> questions as long they are about the culture and getting in touch with
> what is real about the scene and your responsible role within it. be
> courteous and open-minded and all will be apparent.
>
> respect,
> sean.
>
> Anthony Maxwell wrote:
>> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean
> and dont exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday?
>>
>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
>> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the redstickman"
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,  
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>>
>> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues as well as
> some
>> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't
> recall how
>> that turned out.
>>
>> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy
> is
>> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself  
>> to
> be filmed
>> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why
> would
>> anyone do that?
>>
>> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>>
>> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever
> cross
>> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
>> though...
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>; michael the redstickman
>> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com;
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> mmm, bacon.
>>
>> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
>> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>>
>> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
>> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
>> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>>
>> -R.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I like bacon.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>>
>> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>>
>>> -N7
>>> --
>>> Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>>
>>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>>
>>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yeah, it takes two (or more) to get joosed...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peter
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>>> still on my ass.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

king of the cosmos (katamari damacy) statement," pen spinning... ... ..."

Anthony Maxwell wrote:
> My fav mix is wanna take a trip by Brandon Phantom, everyone go to genxglow..com and download it now. Its hard to say what my fav music genre is but the top three would have to be hard style, DnB and trance. I love how trance gets me all relaxed and chill.I like the throbbing bass in hard style and Dnb is is just good.
> I probably got into electronic because of my older brother andrew, He used to play it all the time and at one time he even got a pair of techniques and spun at home,unfortunately hes bi-polar so hes hospitalized right now. When he gets out i cant wait  to a party with him.
>
> I used to be bored so i would take up different hobbies one of the is pen spinning,its basically  how it sounds you spin the pen around your hand,Ive been doing it for a while so im pretty good at this point,one thing ive always though about is making a glow pen and giving some one a light show like that lol. =D
>
> Yep i go to berkeley high, my fav teacher would have to be Mr. Barid, Im in a IB English class with him and I just enjoy it for some reason.
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 10:24 PM
>
> A good way to earn your cred around here is to share information about yourself.
>
> 1. Start with the music.  Who are your favorite artists?  What genres do you like?  Why?
> 2. How did you get into electronic music?  When? Where? Why?
> 3. Pen spinning?  Please explain.
> 4. Berkeley? I assume you a BHS student.  Who is your favorite teacher?
>
> No one cares if you are 17 or 107, if you are intelligent, interested in the music, and not an irresponsible dumb ass.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
> From:
>  Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:49:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
>
> I had to google it to the the correct spelling....My fave floats were the one with the Gold and the drum and bass one with the guy spitting reggae, me and my girl went crazy when the gold float started playing MGMT,forgot the name of the song but the lyrics are something like"control yourself, take only what you need from it". How can i prove im cool can i meet one of you or something.
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need
>  some help
> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:42 PM
>
> I like how you can spell "phishing" correctly, but
>  not
> "scene".
>
> Things that make me go hmm.
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:35:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>
> whats phishing, Im not pork. I just want to get into the rave scean and dont
> exactly know how. Osby can i hang out with you this saturday? 
>
> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
> To: "Ray Wong" <rayw@rayw.net>
> Cc: "Nathan Seven" <n7@nathanseven.com>, "michael the
> redstickman"
>  <red_stickman@yahoo.com>, tonytouch510@yahoo.com,
> sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 9:29 PM
>
> The Dad as depicted in that story had some boundary issues
>  as well as some
> pretty bad judgment.  Also the ex-wife had him arrested.  I don't recall
> how
> that turned out.
>
> There's some questions about the authenticity of the story.  This guy is
> taking and selling E with his children present and allowing himself to be
> filmed
> doing it?  He's both irresponsible and an idiot if its true.  Why would
> anyone do that?
>
> He's "addicted" to Ecstacy?  Hmm.
>
> Also these people supposedly lived locally if I recall.  Anyone ever cross
> paths with them?  I don't recall any Bill Graham events being shown
> though...
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Ray Wong <rayw@rayw.net>
> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
> Cc: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>;
>  michael the redstickman
> <red_stickman@yahoo.com>; tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:15:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some
>  help
>
> mmm, bacon.
>
> either way, Anthony should have seen Small Town Ecstasy by now, the
> dad in that got into it because of his son. :)
>
> Of course, in that they seemed to be going to those big Bill Graham
> Presents shows, not raves.  And the mom did seem to be trying to get
> the dad declared unfit to raise his almost adult son, but whatever.
>
> -R.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 1:09 PM,  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   
>> I like bacon.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Nathan Seven <n7@nathanseven.com>
>> To: dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>> Cc: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>;
>>     
> tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org
>   
>> Sent:
>>     
>  Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:07:51 PM
>   
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> I can't be the only one who smells bacon here...
>>
>> -N7
>> --
>>
>>     
>  Contact me for illegal drugs and underage girls-
>   
>> On Feb 25, 2009, at 11:39 AM, dangrsmind@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Hey, I was trying to be serious there.
>>>
>>> Helping the kid out and stuff.
>>>
>>> My oldest son is 17 actually.  Wait a minute here...
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>> From: michael the redstickman <red_stickman@yahoo.com>
>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com; sfraves@hyperreal.org;
>>> dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:29:05 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>
>>>
>>> yeah, it takes two
>>>       
>  (or more) to get joosed...
>   
>>> http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=joosed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- On Wed, 2/25/09, dangrsmind@yahoo.com
>>>       
>  <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>   
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> From: dangrsmind@yahoo.com <dangrsmind@yahoo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com, sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 11:02 AM
>>>> Bring them with you.
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----
>>>> From: Anthony Maxwell <tonytouch510@yahoo.com>
>>>> To: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:21:10 AM
>>>> Subject: [sfraves] RE: Need some
>>>>         
>  help
>   
>>>> One problem im having is that im 17 and my parents are
>>>> still on my
>>>>         
>  ass.
>   
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help

DIY or Die. Raving is a collective experience, its all about what you 
bring to the table. you want this list hot? make it so. and get yourself 
out to a rave already.

respect,
sean.

Colleen McGarry wrote:
> I have to say this is the single thread where I've read every message 
> in, oh, 6 months? maybe more? I've been lurking on this list for maybe 
> 3 years, since I moved here, and have actually only been to one EDM 
> event in that time period. But this thread, for a variety of reasons, 
> makes me a little excited again. It has a little to do with the snark, 
> to be honest, because it reminds me of good old nw-raves, where I cut 
> my very own teeth and made friends. It has a little to do with the 
> links being shared because it makes me feel like I know what I'm 
> talking about again, even though I totally don't - and haven't for at 
> least 6 years. And it has a little to do with the earnest responses 
> given to a seemingly genuine kid with questions.
>
> Ahh, to be a raver again. So, my interest is piqued! Keep me reading! 
> Get me involved! I've got time and energy to give, but not so many 
> skills or connections.
>
> Hi everyone, I'm Colleen. Once upon a time, I was active up in 
> Seattle. That was 10 years ago. Now I am not that old and out of 
> touch. Bring me back into the fray?
>
> Colleen
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Daniel Faustine wrote:
>
>> It's all about the TAZ.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sean ocean [mailto:seanocean@defsf.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 6:04 PM
>> To: tonytouch510@yahoo.com
>> Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: [sfraves] RE: Need some help
>>
>> some background for you on what is rave. i kind of wish i had wikipedia
>> when i was getting into raves. i spent untold hours on boards and lists
>> like this conversing with techno heads around the world in
>> alt.music.techno to get a feel for what is really going on in newsgroups
>>
>> way back when.
>>
>> fortunately for our friend (who's chosen e-mail name bears a striking
>> resemblance to a new york hiphop mixtape icon) wikipedia is here to stay
>>
>> as the world collective consciousness:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Techno
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electro_(music)
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_music/History_of_House_Music
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temporary_Autonomous_Zone
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLUR
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KLF
>> learn to love the absurdity and awesomeness of the JAMs
>> http://www.klf-communications.net/
>>
>> and here are some fun sites that i like that may help you get more
>> familiar with the music and culture:
>>
>> http://fusionanomaly.net/
>> this site is a mega spiral with an emphasis on psytrance culture. love
>> it.
>>
>> online publications:
>> http://www.xlr8r.com/
>> these guys used to be the shit but are a bunch of punks now.. but they
>> are still on the cutting edge, admittedly. they still owe me an original
>>
>> playstation from a contest i won yeeears ago. am i bitter? maybe. lol.
>> if you guys feel like buying me a PS3, all is forgiven.
>>
>> http://www.bpmmagazine.net/
>> still good, always a bit 'bosh' though.
>>
>> http://emusician.com/
>> always just a little ahead of the game.
>>
>> http://remixmag.com/
>> a dj friendly publication, always a fun read. mostly for djs and
>> remixers.
>>
>> http://residentadvisor.net
>> mentioned this one before but its a pretty important one.
>>
>> music related searches and buying sources:
>> http://www.last.fm/
>> http://www.nuloop.com/en/
>> http://www.dancerecords.com/
>> http://www.beatport.com/
>> http://songza.com/
>> http://gemm.com/
>> http://www.discogs.com/
>> http://boomkat.com/
>>
>> gotta give props to:
>> http://hyperreal.org/
>> its why we're here today. http://hyperreal.org/info/history.html
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com
>> is also a great source for historical references to EDM. just type in an
>>
>> artist you might be interested in.
>>
>> and lastly, my little site that could:
>> http://www.defsf.com
>>
>> i feel like this is a great time to be getting into electronic music and
>>
>> raves. there are so many directions for the EDM scene to go in and
>> everything is fresh again. especially now that absolutely everything is
>> online now. its easier to just get wired up and all up in this worldwide
>>
>> scene in a hurry. no matter where you go in the world you can just find
>> information about undergrounds and club culture, buy cheap tracks and
>> follow any dj anywhere in the world. its a fantastic completely open
>> secret. if people want to know, they will. and we are always here with
>> welcoming arms for those willing to embrace our culture. i'm sure