From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 10:27:11 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA05316; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:27:11 -0700 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA05301; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:27:07 -0700 Received: (from jsl@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA29617; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:27:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:27:05 -0700 From: jsl@netcom.com (John S. Lee) Message-Id: <199606011727.KAA29617@netcom20.netcom.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Tim Leary Article (reuters) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Path: netcom.com!news2.clari.net!soprano.clari.net!e.news >Supersedes: >Distribution: cl-1,cl-2,cl-3,cl-edu,cl-4 >From: C-reuters@clari.net (Reuters) >Newsgroups: clari.usa.top,clari.usa.misc,clari.usa >Subject: Timothy Leary Dead at 75 >Organization: Copyright 1996 by Reuters >Message-ID: >Lines: 135 >Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 18:00:26 PDT >Expires: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:00:26 PDT >ACategory: usa >Slugword: NEWS-LEARY >Threadword: news >Priority: regular >ANPA: Wc: 1227/0; Id: a2374; Src: reuto; Sel: rontv; Adate: 05-31-N.A; Ver: 0/4 >Approved: e.news@clari.net >Xref: netcom.com clari.usa.top:13774 clari.usa.misc:630 clari.usa:2666 LOS ANGELES (Reuter) - Counterculture guru Timothy Leary, who urged the 1960s ``Flower Power'' generation to use the hallucinogenic drug LSD to ``turn on, tune in and drop out,'' died Friday of cancer. He was 75 years old. In his final days, Leary made elaborate plans to turn his own death into a public event, but he never had a chance to go through with the ultimate dropout -- committing suicide while logged on to the giant computer network known as the Internet. Instead, early Friday morning, he smiled, whispered ``Why not?'' and died at his hilltop Beverly Hills home, succumbing after a year-long battle against inoperable prostate cancer, according to long-time friend Carol Rosin. The eccentric former Harvard University psychologist, hailed as a hero by the flower children of the 1960s but reviled by their parents as a corrupter of youth, died surrounded by family and friends. His home page on the World Wide Web, where he had provided regular updates on his deteriorating health and on the cocktails of legal and illegal drugs he was taking to dull the pain, recounted the moment of his death. ``Just after midnight, in his favorite bed among loving friends, Timothy Leary peacefully passed on. His last words were 'Why not?' and 'Yeah','' his followers wrote. ``He went of his own accord,'' Rosin said. ``He was smiling.'' Leary -- who became a vagabond icon of his era for celebrating the use of mind-altering drugs, escaping from prison and falling in with radical groups -- was diagnosed with cancer in 1995. White-haired and gaunt, he said he was ``thrilled'' to learn he was dying. ``Because that's the final party,'' he said in a March interview with the TV newsmagazine ``Extra.'' ``I say dying is a team sport like living is.'' His last moments as he lay on his death bed were captured on videotape and may be broadcast later on the Internet, Rosin said. Leary's remains will be cremated, and for his final trip his ashes will be blasted into space in September or October, she said. Arrangements were made with Houston-based Celestis Inc. to launch seven grams of Leary's ashes on a small rocket along with those of ``Star Trek'' creator Gene Roddenberry and 28 other people, a company spokesman said. Within 10 years, the capsule containing the ashes will plunge into the earth's atmosphere and burn up. Just as he would have wanted, Leary's death was almost immediately a major item on a number of the Web's news sites -- just behind the electoral victory of Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel -- including the NAndO Times (http://www.nando.net/), CNN Interactive (http://www.cnn.com/) and Microsoft Network News (http://www.msn.com/news/). And the man who filled halls in the 1960s with his mantra of ``turn on, tune in, drop out'' was himself hosting so large a crowd at ``The Timothy Leary Home Page (http://leary.com) just hours after his death that accessing the page was for a time virtually impossible. Small wonder, since about 600 other sites on the Web have links to Leary's page -- and since the earliest word of his death was attributed to his site. The site sports a small animation of Leary smoking a cigarette with ``Leary Home Page'' in the wavy, tie-died, psychedelic typeface of his heyday. Visitors can visit ``rooms'' in his house and even take a ``guided tour.'' In a final ``health summary'' at http://www.leary.com/health.html, dated May 16, Leary wrote of his mental status: ``The good spirits of last month have expanded -- probable cause: I treasure the moments of mobility, dexterity, friendship, and mental clarity.'' G. Gordon Liddy, the Watergate figure and ultraconservative commentator, went on a nationwide speaking tour with Leary in 1982. He said he would miss his old debating partner. ``I never approved of what he did, but I never thought he ever meant to hurt anyone. He thought what he was doing was right,'' Liddy, who first met Leary during a drug raid on a commune in upstate New York in the 1960s, said on his radio call-in program in Washington. Only a handful of subscribers to America Online -- whose age demographics probably tilt toward people who were not born when Leary was big news -- posted messages in the hours after his death, but there was still fire and emotion in some. ``Timothy Leary was a great man... He was the king of LSD. In my opinion he was a god ... Rest in peace Tim, from all your children of the underground,'' wrote one member, whose profile indicated the writer was 17. But another anonymous America Online member was more succinct in his or her disgust: ``Good riddance to bad rubbish!'' Leary was a hot topic in a number of the Internet message boards, known as Usenet, in all the places one would expect: rec.drugs.music, alt.drugs, alt.politics.correct, talk.politics.drugs, talk.euthansia, rec.drugs.psychedelic. There was even discussion in some Usenet groups one would not expect, like alt.fan.rush.limbaugh, where one poster wrote the night before Leary died: ``Dr. Leary is an acid-addled crack-pot,'' to which another reponded: ``When Leary was talking about 'dropping-out' he intended for people to abandon the established social structure. That doesn't mean he wanted people to sit around tripping their heads off all day.'' Not if they want to be as wired as he was, anyway. Leary was a respected Harvard University psychology professor in the early 1960s when he began experimenting with the powerful hallucinogen LSD after eating psychedelic mushrooms in Mexico. He was fired when authorities learned he had given drugs to students to study their reactions. Leary joined the counterculture ``in crowd'' of the time, including Aldous Huxley, Allen Ginsberg and William Burroughs and as the hippie movement spread, his fame grew. The ``Messiah of LSD,'' as he was called, was to be found at love-ins, sit-ins and marijuana smoke-ins, and ``Leary is God'' buttons became popular on college campuses. Leary was further immortalized when the 1970s rock band The Moody Blues sang the lyrics ``Timothy Leary's dead.'' After he was diagnosed with cancer, the group retooled the words to ''Timothy Leary lives'' and sang it to him over the phone. As the 1960s counterculture faded, so did Leary's fame. An arrest for possession of two marijuana cigarettes landed Leary in a California prison on a 10-year sentence, but he escaped in 1970 with the help of the radical Weather Underground. He spent the next few years on the run in Europe and Africa with his wife, Rosemary, until he was arrested in Afghanistan in 1973 by U.S. drug agents. He was sent to Folsom Prison near Sacramento, California, and was paroled in 1976. In the late 1970s, Leary became a fixture on the Hollywood party scene. He tried acting and stand-up comedy and even ran for governor of California -- all with equal lack of success -- and wrote several books about his drug experimentation. Leary was born in Springfield, Mass., and attended the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., before joining the army. He earned his doctorate in psychology from the University of California at Berkeley and in 1959 joined the Harvard faculty. Leary is survived by his two children, Susan and John, from his first marriage, and by his step-son, Zach, from his fourth marriage, which ended in divorce in 1994. -- * "...every dog has his day, huh Mel?" - Tony Montana * From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 10:40:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA06252; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:40:23 -0700 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA06247; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:40:20 -0700 Received: (from jsl@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA00994; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:40:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 10:40:19 -0700 From: jsl@netcom.com (John S. Lee) Message-Id: <199606011740.KAA00994@netcom20.netcom.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Liddy on Leary (reuters) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Path: netcom.com!news2.clari.net!soprano.clari.net!e.news >Distribution: cl-1,cl-2,cl-3,cl-edu,cl-4 >Approved: editor@clarinet.com >From: C-reuters@clari.net (Reuters) >Newsgroups: clari.usa.top,clari.usa.misc,clari.usa >Subject: G. Gordon Liddy Pays Tribute to Timothy Leary >Organization: Copyright 1996 by Reuters >Message-ID: >Lines: 29 >Date: Fri, 31 May 1996 15:50:46 PDT >Expires: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:50:46 PDT >ACategory: washington >Slugword: POLITICS-LIDDY >Threadword: politics >Priority: regular >ANPA: Wc: 247/0; Id: a2240; Src: reuto; Sel: roptt; Adate: 05-31-N.A >Xref: netcom.com clari.usa.top:13770 clari.usa.misc:629 clari.usa:2664 WASHINGTON (Reuter) - One planned political break-ins, the other drug turn-ons. One would not talk and went to prison for it; the other talked too much and ended up in jail. Timothy Leary, the LSD guru who died Friday at age 75 of cancer, and G. Gordon Liddy, the Nixon fanatic who went to jail for the Watergate break-in, were one of America's odd couples, touring together to debate at colleges. Liddy on Friday paid high tribute to Leary, whose call for Americans to ``Turn On, Tune In and Drop Out'' was the sort of comment he spent his whole life fighting. ``I will miss Tim Leary. He had an elfin Irish wit about him. I never approved of what he did but I never thought he ever meant to hurt anyone. He thought what he was doing was right,'' Liddy said on his radio call-in program in Washington. He recalled meeting Leary in a raid on a commune that Leary was living in in upstate New York in the 1960s where Liddy was then a prosecutor. He said Leary came down the stairs ``wearing only a golf shirt. I got a spectacular first look at him.'' They made a deal under which Leary agreed to leave the state in turn for no charges on drugs. ``I liked him from the start,'' Liddy said. Years later after Liddy got out of prison the odd couple toured as debators, mainly on college campuses. They even went together to the Cannes Film Festival in France to promote a film made about them. ``We had a great time. Cannes will never be the same,'' Liddy lamented. -- * "...every dog has his day, huh Mel?" - Tony Montana * From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 12:03:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA12294; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:03:48 -0700 Received: from spain.it.earthlink.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA12286; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:03:45 -0700 Received: from [153.37.82.114] (pool050.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.114]) by spain.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id MAA28133 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:03:28 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: Re: Plastik--> Wicked//Pakabowl (Review) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Is 27 bucks in Santa Cruz.... Have a great day:( Seriously????? I know it's at the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium and they always include a "tax" on their ticket price for raves (usually 2 bucks) so does this mean the party is 25 bucks plus the 2 dollars for the city/payoff?? Damn- I really wanted to hear Simply Jeff and Trance from LA and I wouldn't mind hearing Dan again after that great set at FTT. But I don't know if it's worth the drive down and to pay 27 bucks to get in---especially if I got to work till 12 am....then drive to SC.... aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! Maybe I'll check out Wicked again. I'll be going by my self so if you see a guy wondering around looking for fun ...come up and say hi..other wise I'll be up front dancin' my arce off... __________ Pac a Bowl This was my first Pac a Bowl. I always say I'll go but something always comes up and I can't make it out to the city (usually school). School's out so I decided to check it out. Met a friendly homeless man that kept calling me the white Dennis Rodman--?-- don't know why, I don't have any tats... As we were walking up several people were arguing and pushing and then a 10 person brawl erupted in front of Park Bowl (around 12 am). Much punching - someone had a flash light - blood - people running - people getting smacked in the face - more blood - yelling - a girl screemed - Some dude took a swing at me WHAT THE FUC Not a good beginning to my first P-A-B. Inside there were alot more people than i expected. Cool. MARS was up. Played some pool, Bowled, kicked it, danced some. Saw alot of people I know--- Again I met none of you guys. i guess lately i've been shy and tend not to met as many new people any more since I know and talk to so many people already... well I was cool to hang out on a Thur. night but I hope the next time I go back there won't be another fight. 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From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 12:56:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA15556; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:56:25 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA15551; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:56:22 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id MAA12636; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:56:20 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id MAA06928; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:56:19 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 12:56:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Jessica Robin Berkson Reply-To: Jessica Robin Berkson Subject: Plastik/bonfire To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk c Hi everybody, I was wondering if anybody was actually going to make it out here for Plastic tonight...I'm in Santa Cruz, but I don't have the $- but some friends & I were planning on having a bonfire on the beach tonight (it's a full moon)- nothing too exciting, just a radio and friendly faces... it'll only go util about 10:30/11:00 because that's when the cops make you quit- but we'll be about 10 minutes away from plastic- so you can head on over after...if anybody's interested, let me know - I check my mail a lot- I can send you directions if you want them- bye! (see you tonight, maybe??) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 14:46:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA22547; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:46:36 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA22542; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:46:33 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA24221 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:46:31 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby.vip.best.com (tgrigsby.vip.best.com [205.149.169.221]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA04311 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:46:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 14:46:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199606012146.OAA04311@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Re: Frequency 8 (BSP) X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk SteveOSac@aol.com wrote: >Yahoo! F-8 saves the day! > >Who else?! ME! See you (and Trish) there! T From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 15:32:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA25759; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:32:38 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA25754; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:32:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfogler@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id PAA148648 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:32:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 15:32:29 -0700 (PDT) From: jess To: sfraves Subject: Pack-a-Bowl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Wow, I'm so sorry to hear that _another_ fight broke out at packabowl. That's at least four weeks in a row now. It seems to be getting rougher and rougher and I really wonder how much longer they're going to let it go on.... Ranting and Raving ** jess ** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 1 22:08:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA19323; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:08:51 -0700 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA19307; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:08:47 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id WAA05888; Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:08:44 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606020508.WAA05888@netcom8.netcom.com> Subject: ORACLe/Goa Trance Under The Full Moon To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sat, 1 Jun 1996 22:08:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 5722 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] Reviews of ORACLe / Goa Trance Under The Full Moon ( LONG! ) ORACLe: I'm glad I took the bus, as I would have gotten lost on the sprawling campus. I didn't hear any music when I got off at the Crown College stop , so I wandered around like an ant sniffing for a honey trail. Finally, some dub/jungle sounds! Located the source at a little courtyard next to a cafeteria. It was about 9:30PM , and they were still setting up the lights and some more speakers. The music's tempo got cranked up with peppier techno/house beats. I got to meet Madame Mercury and Liquid Seven in person ( but I'm still foggy on their "real" names! ). She was worried that the crowd was too small, but folks began arriving - I suspect a combination of knowing attendees and those who just heard it on passing. DJs BrianFlip and Dave (?? names again! ??) traded off at the turntables for some nice music nicely mixed. After getting over my initial shyness of dancing with young collegiant strangers , I got down to some fun stepping! Then the lights and sound died! Not the campus security - we had tripped the circuit breaker! The circuit breaker was quickely located , and some of the motorized lights were turned off, and I think the volume was turned down a bit. The chill/ambient music area was located in a little courtyard nestled among some dormitory apartments. Dionysus Dreams was making some industrial & lysergic sounds from Yamaha and Kawaii synths, and a stack of CD players. Nice segues and mixing of synth sounds with sounds and music from the CDs. I layed myself on a bench and let myself drift on the sound stream for awhile. As I left , I could hear the dance music pumping along , so I guess they managed to control their power usage OK ( or they tied down the circuit breaker! ). Summary - very nice , and the crowd seemed to be enjoying it! It was nice to meet Madame Mercury and Liquid7 and Matt(?) and Clouds and Dave(?) in person, and I may eventually get your names right if we meet enough times in the future! I missed meeting Adam Guevara and Jessica Robin , maybe next time! Goa Gil Under The Full Moon Late Friday afternoon I got rumor of a C.C.C. "goa trance" outdoor event at a beach some miles north of Santa Cruz. Not being a big Goa Trance fan (yet), I didn't make any hard plans on attending it , and left the directions at home in any case. While at ORACLe , I got an update on the event , plus some rough directions. Taking this as an omen, I commited to at least checking this event out. So, after I got back to my truck, I bought myself a liter of water and started driving up HW 1. The parking area was pretty much at the mileage described to me; it helped to see other folks driving into the same area. The actually beach site was across the street and about a 1/3 mile from the parking site. A $5 donation asked for. I gave it gladly, because , even before I heard any music, I was charmed by the beauty of the site. A large , flat beach , with few rocks or boulders and lots of fine sand. A creek flowed across the sand into the sea. Around the right , out of sight of the road, was where the sound system was set up. Some folks were building a fire from some palattes and driftwood. The fire got started quite nicely with the help of some oil. The warm was appreciated, even though some folks who had been to a Gateway (?) event at the same site the week before said that it had been much windier and colder last week. I wandered over to the DJ coffin - no music was happening yet, as they were waiting for an amp. It seemed to me that the amp wasn't all they were missing - no turntables! Hmmm , just a lot of little DAT portable recorders hooked up to the mixer. Then , a blocky heavyset man in his 30's(?) with dark brown dreadlocks ambled up and started to checked the DATs out and choose DAT tapes out of a bag. He was Goa Gil. I hadn't heard him do his thing for over a year , and so I was pleasantly surprised! A "goa trance" evening indeed! Someone I knew named Joe(y?) from Beautiful People showed up , so we and his friends got our own driftwood and Duraflame(tm) fire started. As we added wood to the budding flames, the music started up, slow and trancey. Goa Gil slowly built up the tempo over the course of a 1/2 hour . As I said before, I didn't start the night liking goa trance , but if what I heard last night was typical of the genre, I'm a new fan! Of course, I did get to hear it under the best possible conditions. A beautiful site, cooperative weather, and a crowd of folks that were there to get off! So good to be swimming the sonic ocean with a school of blissed out trancing ravers! The vibe was so good, I got into temporary mental altered zones of my own without aid of A or E ! At one point,I ran along the waterline , arms outstretched, feeling the cool air flowing around me and under my "wings". Another time, I sat myself down near the "coffin" and the video projector table, just grooving to the music and the ecstatic dancers. It had been so long since I had been to a beachside full moon rave. My first full moon rave was at Bonny Doon, and there's nothing quite like a beach rave , especially with lots of silvery fullmoonlight. Such a beautiful night! Wonderful music and wonderful people! I left early, at about 3:15AM, as my energy finally started to run out after a full Friday workday and evening. Before I left, I stood on a little rise over- looking the site, watching the fires and the ravers and Goa Gil. I sent out a little non-denominational blessing over them all. How did it end up? I hope it all went well until sunrise and beyond... Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 05:08:00 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id FAA21460; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 05:08:00 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA21453; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 05:07:57 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id FAA26007; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 05:07:56 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id FAA06374; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 05:07:55 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 05:07:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Jessica Robin Berkson Subject: plastik To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Okay, first of all it's 5 am and I just got in, so if this rambles...I'm sorry! :) I didn't even plan on going to Plastik tonight- 27 bucks is a lot of cash- and I had no way of scraping that much together...I mailed that to Adam (rlunatic) and he e-mailed me back telling me that he would kick down the money so I could get in!! I'd never met him before, but he told me to meet him in line (I found him with his Dr. Seus hat) And then He payed almost half my ticket and I hung out with him and his friends all night long! The kindness of some people never ceases to amaze me..:) So the party itself was okay- the music was pumping and had me up most of the night- a downer was that they took away ALL candy, gum etc. at the door- not a great beginning to the evening..the vibe was a kind off too- a lot of hard looks and not as many smiles as I'd expected to see. However, my evening was rad because I had a great group of people to hang with, and they knew what it was all about!! Thank you so much ADAM!!! -jessica From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 08:52:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA04347; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 08:52:30 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA04340; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 08:52:27 -0700 Received: from (denjaq@sfo-ca12-20.ix.netcom.com [204.30.64.212]) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA16130 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 08:51:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 08:51:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199606021551.IAA16130@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com> From: denjaq@ix.netcom.com (PAUL KOLARIK) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Good morning!:) I was wondering if there's anything happening today. It would be great to have some beautiful music to go with all this sunshine and my great mood today! Noticed there's really been nothing on the calendar at all this week-end. Have a gorgemous day! Jacqui From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 13:33:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA25395; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:33:08 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA25388; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:33:05 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca41-08.ix.netcom.com [205.187.203.136]) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA23361; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:31:30 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 13:31:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199606022031.NAA23361@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Re: plastik To: Jessica Robin Berkson Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You wrote: > > >Okay, first of all it's 5 am and I just got in, so if this rambles...I'm >sorry! :) > >I didn't even plan on going to Plastik tonight- 27 bucks is a lot of >cash- and I had no way of scraping that much together...I mailed that to >Adam (rlunatic) and he e-mailed me back telling me that he would kick >down the money so I could get in!! I'd never met him before, but he told >me to meet him in line (I found him with his Dr. Seus hat) And then He >payed almost half my ticket and I hung out with him and his friends all >night long! The kindness of some people never ceases to amaze me..:) > > >Thank you so much ADAM!!! >-jessica > What can I say? I'm just that type of person.. =)~ R.Lunatic Adam From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 15:44:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07096; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:44:30 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07090; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:44:28 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id PAA26015; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:44:25 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id PAA21196; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:44:25 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:44:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: (((fu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Plastik?!@*$ (side note: I have a very strong instinct for things that will happen in the near future. I didn't feel good about Plastik ever since we were in liquid's room getting ready. The closer we got the stronger the negative vibes got. Once downtown the vibes were so strongly negative I was on the verge of crying behind my silver glasses.) Getting there was no problem for liquid7, lambchop, and I for we were right here @ the UCSC campus. We found parking easily and went and joined our other UCSC raver friends in line, whom we had met the night before @ Oracle. However, things were all downhill from there.... In line you could see #'s of people cutting in line as the "gangsters" cruised by in there pimped out Hondas. Then it was confirmed that the ticket price was $25. I had the sick sense of another Area 51 (overcrowded ganster = negative party). Once puchasing our tickets we stepped up to find that we couldn't even bring in candy or gum and during our being searched we were stripped of everything, all the way down to what was left of our good raver vibe. I sadly watched as the security slowly yet vigourously searched the inside of liquid's hat, went through every pocket of his backpack throwing out our empty bottles and candy, and patting him down even questioning him on the flyers in his coat pocket. Finally in, I found it to my dismay that they had the odacity to sell water @ $1.50 a bottle and candy after throwing out our empty bottles and candy. Once past the black curtains we found a scene that wasn't worth all of us paying $25. Then we listened and what we heard @ 12:00 was, well the beginning of a rave. So we all sat in the seats awaiting the bad ass beats to begin. Once we thought the music had picked up and we were gettin' down on the dance floor the music cut to some crappy shit. Then they just kept pulling that kind of shity mixing till around 2:00. And what was up w/ that club and 70's horseshit? Not to mention who was the dumbass who butchered DJ Dan's "song" (Basco). I was very unhappy... So was liquid, especially after some big intimidating guy slammed into him and got up in his face asking if he wanted to start to some shit. When liquid got back and told me what had happened to him I knew it would only get worse and it did. The house started to drop, however by that time the greedy bastards of the Civic Auditorium had let in way too many people and there was no room to let your feet move to the grooves. Not to mention not being able to breathe due to the lack of ventelation. Then to add to my misery all the vibes started to really get to me. The happy ravers inspired me to smile :) and rave my feet off, however this was quickly intercepted by all the negative vibes from those just roaming around, starting shit...those just not there to rave. I felt scared and alone and clung to liquid for comfort but he was so overwhelmed w/ all the "shit" himself he could hardly assist me. So I went and joined lambchop in the seats as the tears rolled down my cheaks from behind my glasses. Soon all 3 of us were in the seats asleep waiting for DJ Dan to maybe have the power to rejuvinate us from our crash and burn in the pool of fucked up vibes. It was 3:30 by then and I just couldn't handle it, so liquid went and finished his role of film in his camera and we went home. I have never been so disappointed in a rave. I will NEVER go to the Civic Auditorium in Santa Cruz again and I encourage the rest of you to boycott it as well. I should have listened to those of you who said Plastik would be like this and to my strong instincts. It was even painful remembering it to write about it. _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ \ | | \ | |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | _| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 16:01:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA09236; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:01:07 -0700 Received: from lettuce.salinas.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA09230; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 16:01:03 -0700 Received: (from drenalin@localhost) by lettuce.salinas.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA18449; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:19:27 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 15:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Nelson To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: (((fu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Please realize that the Civic isnt responsible for the people who throw events there. I've been to one of the best raves of my life at the Civic a couple of years ago. Don't boycott the Civic boycott people who throw evetns like the one you attended, they can throw them anywhere, so boycott them not the venue (unless the venue made you feel unsafe). love drenalin -------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Nelson - drenalin@salinas.net SalinasNet - admin@salinas.net http://www.salinas.net The Web Works - webworks@ultima.org http://www.ultima.org/WebWorks/ hyperreal staff - drenalin@hyperreal.com -------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 18:57:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA23485; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:57:47 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA23477; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:57:44 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA17421 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 18:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: =P Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk It's so freakin' hot in the south bay today! =P -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 19:08:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA24425; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:08:42 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA24417; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:08:38 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id TAA09443; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:08:35 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id TAA08449; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:08:33 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:08:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: boy it's hot! To: michal migurski cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, michal migurski wrote: > It's so freakin' hot in the south bay today! > > =P > > -m. > > > 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 > | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | > | for that whole body thirst situation | > | | > | (- Portfolio! -) | > | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | > | | > | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | > | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | > | | > | Michal Migurski | > | (408) 264-6604 | > | | > |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| > | | > 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 > > It sure is! At least we are not in a crowded auditorium w/ tones of other people and we can't move or breathe and feel threatened....uhhh...please excuse my extra bitterness. _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ \ | | \ | |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | _| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 19:31:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA26364; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:31:15 -0700 Received: from moon.sirius.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA26309; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:30:40 -0700 Received: from [205.134.227.19] (ppp019-sf1.sirius.com [205.134.227.19]) by moon.sirius.com (8.6.12/8.6.9p) with SMTP id TAA11842 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:29:21 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 19:29:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199606030229.TAA11842@moon.sirius.com> Subject: movement monday From: Jim Grady To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Here's the June 10th lineup for Movement: Jon Howard Mystr-E Kimo Movement is happening every Monday 1600 Market 10pm-2am 18+ info: 415.263.5797 Jim From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 21:26:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA06761; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:26:28 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA06755; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:26:25 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca37-22.ix.netcom.com [204.31.236.214]) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA12117 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:25:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:25:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199606030425.VAA12117@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Things are kinda Slllooooowwwww..... To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hmm... Where is everybody that went to Tribal Future?!? Are you guys still there partying your asses off?!? So, How was it?! Adam From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 2 21:32:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA07299; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:32:13 -0700 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA07289; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:32:09 -0700 Received: (from star@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA01192; Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:32:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 21:32:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Starchild X-Sender: star@orion To: Friends & Family Subject: Latecomers to Tribal Future? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Dear Friends & Family, Chikako & I are going up to the Tribal Future site tonight to catch the end of the weekend! (I had to work today & yesterday) We have room for two or three more in the car... anybody else want a ride from S.F.? Carpooling is good, Ameba said space was limited for cars & they're asking $10 a car for those arriving Sunday. We plan to stay all night but leave fairly early in the morning (around 7am) as we need to be back in the city by around ten. Much love, <<< Starchild >>> From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 01:26:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA25802; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:26:57 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA25797; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:26:54 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id BAA04996; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:26:49 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id BAA17810; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:26:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 01:26:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy C Cone Reply-To: Randy C Cone Subject: Oracle To: Garrett cc: "-=]liquid[=-" , sfraves , "-=] madame mercury [=-" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi all! Just would like to share a few thoughts; I had a blast at Oracle! My ambient/chill area was very much what I had hoped for. Calm, yet trippy and interesting. It was never packed and sometimes empty yet those there seemed to really enjoy it (excepting the Proctor [of course] and the racoons {sorry racoons!}). I had a lot of people who enjoyed the space come share some kind words and thoughts :) I would really like to thank Madame Mercury and Liquid for hosting this event and HUGE THANKS to Garrett without whom this show never would have happened!! Also thanks to Chin for saying hello! And thanks to everyone who made the effort to come to our party - it made all the work wortwhile! =) Ran ( right here, right now ) / -=*=-/ ~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 08:47:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA09584; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:47:07 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA09569; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:47:03 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id IAA11274; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:47:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:47:01 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: PlastiKKK Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk What did I tell you all... Plastik sucked... I think someone needs to send Carlos back to DJ school, so they can teach him that when he's scratching, he can turn the shit WAY down. He actually had a pretty good set, but his annoying "wobbly" scratching fucked it up. Of course, the fly skimmies sitting next to me were going "awww yeah... Carlos is fucking shit up." By the way, did DJ Dan spin? I don't think so... If he did, kudos to him for purposely fucking up his set, cuz the people that throw Plastik deserved to throw away $700... someone get me a fake ID, so I can get into Wicked next time... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 08:56:21 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA10999; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:56:21 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA10989; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:56:17 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA14318 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:55:13 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA00990 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:55:10 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA08572 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:55:06 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:55:06 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Happy Monday!!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Good morning, all :) Just wanted to say I love you, and I'll post my review of the glorious F-8 Full Moon party this pm. Peace, - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 08:56:49 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA11092; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:56:49 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA11087; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:56:47 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id IAA11381; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:56:34 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 08:56:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: (((fu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Finally in, I found it to my dismay that they had the odacity to sell > water @ $1.50 a bottle and candy after throwing out our empty bottles and > candy. Once past the black curtains we found a scene that wasn't worth > all of us paying $25. Not to mention I brought about 1,000 or more flyers for the Underworld, Chemical Bros., etc. show and I couldn't bring them inside, since "flyers take to long to pick up." The asshole that searched me made me throw my cigarettes away, even though I said, "it only says no smoking." > w/ that club and 70's horseshit? Not to mention who was the dumbass > who butchered DJ Dan's "song" (Basco). I was very unhappy... I'm pretty sure Carlos was spinning at that time... and well... Every time I hear him spin it makes me want to leave... it's like acid... it just doesn't go away :) > Soon all 3 of us were in the seats asleep waiting for DJ Dan to maybe > have the power to rejuvinate us from our crash and burn in the pool of > fucked up vibes. It was 3:30 by then and I just couldn't handle it, so > liquid went and finished his role of film in his camera and we went home. Another drug analogy... waiting for Dan to come on was like waiting for that bunk hit of E to come on... (luckily I had some good E at the party and was able to have a fun time anyways..) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 09:01:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA11726; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:01:52 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA11689; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:01:48 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id JAA21050 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:01:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606031601.JAA21050@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: tribal future. To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:01:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Once again we found ourselves asking "Okay, is there anyway we could possibly make this rave any better?" Tribal Future was really incredible. The location was heavenly. The camp was integrated extremely well with the forest. Although there were very few structures besides the little kitchen, the whole site was very comfortable with cut grass areas shaded by trees, the hot tubs, real toilets in little huts, ect. At night all I could compare the scene to was the end of Return of the Jedi when everybody was partying with the Ewoks in their forrest village. Lots of lights made the night scene magical and enchanted. The soundsystem echoed throughout the valley. Sometimes it seemed the whole forest was resonating with the music. When it got really hot in the day we took off to the river, where you could jump off the bridge, swing on the rope, or just wade around. During the night we went from one crazy adventure to another. The organic garndens were wonderful with ponds, fountians, swinging chairs, ect. I found it amazing that up there in the forrest, with lots and lots of bugs, they are able to grow wonderful plants without insecticides. Hmmmmm.... Ameba provided some food, fruit and blueberry pancakes in the morning. yum! I did not feel like I was "roughing it" out in the woods... the camping area was just so nice. I felt spoiled. All and all, one of the funnest weekends we have had in a long time, thanks Ameba! -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 09:53:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA17303; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:53:53 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA17293; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:53:49 -0700 Received: from well (cubensis@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA01185; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:53:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 09:53:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bagby Subject: WHY NOT? YEAH! (fwd) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com cc: eric@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This just in from the infamous Scottish hype-ster Fraser Clark. Take it with as many grains of salt as you wish. ~John ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 02:50:20 +0100 From: Fraser Clark To: a_mars@slack.demon.uk Subject: WHY NOT? YEAH! the "WHY NOT? YEAH!" picnic june 22nd noon till midnight BST a TIM LEARY event involving a mass psychic experiment beyond death with, hopefully, his participation PLUS the public chanting of the tibetan book of the dead (to help tim's soul in its beyond-death journeying). stay posted - but be there anyway. venue: parliament hill fields, hampstead heath, london. OR cyberspace (internet participation in the psychic experiment). OR wherever YOU are (with or without modem). fraser/parallel YOUniversity. please forward. such an experimental window of opportunity is unlikely to repeat in our present lifetimes. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 10:11:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA19745; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:11:44 -0700 Received: from vmar.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA19723; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:11:38 -0700 Received: from [157.22.240.192] by vmar.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:16:46 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:08:38 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Vince Subject: THANK YOU AMEBAS Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk THANK YOU AMEBAS !!! THANK YOU UNCLE WALTER for having us. THANK YOU ALL THE INCREDIBLE DJs who played for us. THANK YOU to all the WONDERFUL PEOPLE who showed up. To quote my buddy Wayne, this isn't a rave, its camping with DJs. This was so perfect, it really was you and 400+ of your CLOSEST friends out in nature for a few days, with the bonus of non-stop incredible music. We all got to spend that "quality" time together, days and days of it, walking through the garden, hiking in the hills, laying in the hot tubs, lounging on the lawn, swimming etc, etc... Then we got to dance together all night long. Only to wake up to another day in paradise. I don't think you could have found a single negative vibe in the whole event. You won't be reading about cars being broken into, or any of that downer stuff from Tribal Future. So to sum things up, I had a terrible time, and would never go to another TF again. Yeah right, how bout next weekend !!!!!!!!!!!!!! vince (still all tingly inside) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 10:22:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA20934; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:22:58 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA20929; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:22:55 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA28675 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:21:14 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id KAA15910 for SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.COM; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:16:21 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: SFRAVES@HYPERREAL.COM Subject: Thank you F-8 Date: 03 Jun 1996 18:07:03 GMT Message-Id: <6414231.56789108@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@HYPERREAL.COM Precedence: bulk I'd like to thank all of you for a wonderful, magical, journey of the senses saturday night @ F-8. Thank you for the SmIlEs, huggs, and all out positive vibe. As ususal I didnt do much talking, just a 5 1/2 hr dancing frenzy with thoses who joined me in the Void... Tanks also for respecting each other, the forest, and the designated parking spaces (to keep the rangers away). I also would like to give a hearty HI to all thoses I shutteled to and from the location (I was in the white Lebaron). In the morning, after all the trash and such was picked up, it looked as simple and pure as when we left it... (well, except for a few squashed plants). Vibe: 10 Smiles, Xellnt (not one scuffle, posititvty everywhere) Music: 8 Smiles, Vry Good sets (with exception of that blown amp 'round 2AM, and the frantic scurry to get power to the speakers) Dancing media: 8 Smiles, Vry Good surface (The only exceptions would be thoses hidden mud spots, but hey, it's nice to be one with nature, eh?) Trance factor: 10 Smiles (It's truly enlighting to "get somewhere" outside physical relms with the use of music alone. Overall rating: 9 Smiles out of 10 . Something worth doing again somewhere sometime.... But, I been yammering enuff and I have work 2 du... C-ya out there, "Dance with Me" Adam Wel ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 10:26:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA21246; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:26:26 -0700 Received: from softway95.softway.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA21238; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:26:23 -0700 Received: (from rw@localhost) by softway95.softway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA04655 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:20:36 -0700 From: Renaud Waldura Message-Id: <199606031720.KAA04655@softway95.softway.com> Subject: Tribal Future (Was: THANK YOU AMEBAS) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:20:36 -0700 (PDT) Reply-to: rw@softway.com Organization: Softway, Inc. (San Francisco) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2139 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I didn't have a _good_ time. I didn't _enjoy_ the camp. People were not _friendly_. ... It was definitely more than that. Wooooaaaaooooaaaoooooooaaaaaaaah!!!! (extatic) Tribal Future wasn't _fun_, it was pure _joy_ and _pleasure_ from the beginning to the end, every minute of it!!! I don't even know how to describe this event, words are not enough to translate my feelings about it... I'll skip the usual "we arrived at Xpm, then did this and that" to give only quick flashbacks of my best moments... More intense ;) GOOD MOMENTS Finally finding the camp at midnight on Friday, and discovering its beauty on Saturday afternoon! Hanging around, chatting everywhere and with everybody during the hot day we enjoyed. The very beginning of the night, people getting out their tents and gathering on the dancefloor. A red ball (soccer ball? rugby ball?) thrown in the night over the crowd, drawing big red curves in the dark. Branka dancing with glowsticks--far better than me ;) Hanging around with Erik and friends. Washing my poor dusty feet in the morning. BEST MOMENTS Watching the amazing Sarah playing with fire balls. Waaaa! Dancing madly with a knife under the moon near the tent, cutting and throwing moonlight everywhere in the night. Yaaaa! Thankfully nobody was around :) In the morning, the moon going down, the sun rising, and the music did *not* stop!!! Yiipeeee! BAD MOMENT Getting lost in a small creek by chasing a rabbit and followed by a bunch of drunk assholes (while trying to find our way to the camp). WORST MOMENT When leaving the camp on Sunday afternoon, while knowing that some lucky people would enjoy another night of dancing under the full moon! Summary: it was definitely another level of raving. :) THANKS to all the people for just being there, Erik, Leslie, Sarah, Kirsten, John, Rok, Kirsti, Brendan, Branka and her friends, Tim & Tim, Mike, Phred, Ms Phink, Vince, everybody... AND SPECIAL THANKS TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO SET THIS UP, Ameba, the DJs, ... !!! My last line, quoting Mike: "Check this out guys, it's worth it"! Extatic, Renaud From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 10:31:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA21774; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:31:30 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA21760; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:31:26 -0700 Received: from well (cubensis@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA07756; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:29:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 10:29:12 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bagby Subject: Tribal Future (was: Things are kinda Slllooo...) To: Adam Luong cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606030425.VAA12117@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 2 Jun 1996, Adam Luong wrote: > Hmm... Where is everybody that went to Tribal Future?!? > Are you guys still there partying your asses off?!? > So, How was it?! There were lots of people were still there yesterday afternoon when we left to come back for Monday AM work commitments... lucky people! We got back last night, and I am still recovering. What a WONDERFUL weekend! The land was perfectly suited to this kind of party-- well spaced out, a mix between wild places and sculpted gardens, solar-generated power supply with generator backup... what a perfect (re)introduction to the bay area scene! I wish I had been sure about attending in advance, so I could have arranged some recognition thing to meet some more sfraves folks FTF! I know tons of people from this list were there, but I didn't meet anyone in person! =( But all the people were fabulous! I saw nothing but smiles and heard nothing but laughter and screams of delight. Lots of ravers and hippie-types dancing with incense, a great mix of ages- from elders to little children playing nicely. Weather=perfect. The dancefloor was a massive outdoor vibe-generator, with crisp sound (not too loud, but loud enough to permeate the surrounding areas nicely), and an excellent mix of DJs. I liked the housey stuff better (my pref), but the tweek sessions went ON and ON and ON... I though I would burst from the flow of energy coming from the dance circle! The main dance area was in a very special clearing, with a perfect view of the moonrise. The camping was in clusters among the meadows which dotted the forest areas and rolling hills. The owner(s) of that property have a very magical place indeed, and have done beautiful things with it. Thanks to the promoters and the landowners for such a wonderfully organized and executed event! Special love to that wild gypsy-woman whose real name I did not get, but I hope she is online! =) Now I have to re-boot into workmode, and try not to bliss-out too much that it keeps me from getting anything done. PLUR john From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 11:42:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA29262; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:42:14 -0700 Received: from lettuce.salinas.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA29246; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:42:08 -0700 Received: (from drenalin@localhost) by lettuce.salinas.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA19514; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:01:05 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:01:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Nelson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Origin '96 ?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Could someone please post all the pertinenet info regarding the Underworld, Chem Bros., Orb show. Like presale info and at least a 415 number. Thanks! love drenalin -------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Nelson - drenalin@salinas.net SalinasNet - admin@salinas.net http://www.salinas.net The Web Works - webworks@ultima.org http://www.ultima.org/WebWorks/ hyperreal staff - drenalin@hyperreal.com -------------------------------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 11:52:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA00234; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:52:59 -0700 Received: from ucscb.UCSC.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA00229; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:52:56 -0700 Received: by ucscb.UCSC.EDU (5.65/1.34) id AA14404; Mon, 3 Jun 96 11:51:16 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 11:51:16 -0700 From: swoosh@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (John Elias Darrow) Message-Id: <9606031851.AA14404@ucscb.UCSC.EDU> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Plastik Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Having gone to the January Plastik that was also at the SC Civic and having such a great time at that one, I am sorry to hear that this one was so bad. I walked by it and found out that DJ Dan and some others had cancelled, and also felt a certain akward negativity with all the people in the line, so I decided not to go in. I'm not sure if I'm getting older, or ravers are getting younger, but on this night in particular I was feeling especially old. I really don't think 24 is all that old. Instead I went for a midnight hike in the woods, and stumbled upon a drum circle of about 50 people. With the full moon and a beautiful sky and warm winds, I had a terrific time. And I'm sure it's not the SC Civic that spoiled the party... although I have been to several really bad parties there, I've also been to several really good ones. and I don't really even think that it's the age of the crowd either... sometimes people are in a mood to get along, and sometimes they are more in a mood to sneer and grumble... The best you can do is keep your chin up and continue looking for the good in it all, which is always just around the corner. regards, -john. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 11:55:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA00462; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:55:16 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA00454; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:55:13 -0700 Received: from (ascend@sjx-ca26-09.ix.netcom.com [204.31.235.41]) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA28392; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:54:18 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:54:18 -0700 Message-Id: <199606031854.LAA28392@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> From: ascend@ix.netcom.com (Gregory Sandler ) Subject: Re: (((fu Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You wrote: > > >Please realize that the Civic isnt responsible for the people who throw >events there. I've been to one of the best raves of my life at the Civic >a couple of years ago. Don't boycott the Civic boycott people who throw >evetns like the one you attended, they can throw them anywhere, so >boycott them not the venue (unless the venue made you feel unsafe). > >love drenalin I whole heartedly agree!!! There have been some pretty killer parties at the civic. I understand that some of their (S.C.C.C.) tactics are rather low, but I still find some reason to have a place in my heart for that space. Peace, Greg :) > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Scott Nelson - drenalin@salinas.net >SalinasNet - admin@salinas.net http://www.salinas.net >The Web Works - webworks@ultima.org > http://www.ultima.org/WebWorks/ >hyperreal staff - drenalin@hyperreal.com >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 11:59:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA00810; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:59:28 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA00800; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:59:25 -0700 Received: from (ascend@sjx-ca26-09.ix.netcom.com [204.31.235.41]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA02182 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:58:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 11:58:52 -0700 Message-Id: <199606031858.LAA02182@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> From: ascend@ix.netcom.com (Gregory Sandler ) Subject: Brian D. (where are you?) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey Brian, If you see this message, call me! Peace, Greg :) ps. sorry for posting this on sfr :( From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 12:07:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA01814; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:07:55 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA01805; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:07:51 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id MAA20714 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:08:30 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com ([17.7.4.1]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA14909 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:06:42 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 3 Jun 1996 12:06:26 -0700 From: "Mark Camp*" Subject: Its like a Heat Wave....... To: "sfr" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 b2 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk .........Burning in my Heart Its just way too damn hot. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 12:51:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA06082; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:12 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA06058; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:05 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA24218 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:50:01 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA18678 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:49:57 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24212 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:49:54 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:49:54 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: F-8 Full Moon Party review Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Amazing, lovely, incredible! The location was absolutely breathtaking: nice smallish area after walking through a narrow path through the trees. Lush greenery all around, ferns everywhere, wounds of water coursing through the stream just off the path, and the glorious full moon, brigher than I've seen in a long time, radiating it's energy upon us to add to ours. Trance-a -thon! I loved the beautiful, trippy music, and sat/lay down only when I got tired or when the music got too hard for my taste. There must have been some faves playing at times, judging by the crowd's enthusiastic response when certain tracks were spun. People were digging it, whether bobbing up and down or going off wildly or somewhere in between. The sound system was great, but I think there could have been a little more low end :) Wonderful moments: rendezvousing before the party at Jess's place, and meeting some new and recently-met friends there (hi y'all!). Finding friends at the party, as I didn't know who I'd see there. Sharing an AWESOME hug with Diana Greer, who considers herself weak or poor at hugging (don't believe it, folks!); I just wish I'd been able to stay longer. Being asked if I had a pipe that could be borrowed, and partaking of the borrowers' gratitude ;) Resting with eyes closed, being suspended between sleep and wakefullness, and feeling someone lie next to me and put an arm around me (I responded in kind), and sharing warm feelings with the person, thinking it might be one of the guys who rode up with us, then opening my eyes to find that it was Jess! It's always a treat to open your eyes and find someone so lovely right before you :D The best part of all was when (who was spinning, please?) I heard part of the keyboard intro to "In the Light" by Led Zeppelin mixed into the music. I thought I was gonna leave my body when I heard that! It was so heavenly, it made tears well up in my eyes and my heart leaped for joy :) THAT moment was pure ecstasy (aaaaahhhhh!). Whoever gave us that gift on the turntables is ultra-cool; please give us more! Unfortunately, Thomas (who drove us up) wanted to leave before the end, but I suspect that it lasted only about another half-hour after we left, as the sky lighened to reveal the true beauty of our environment. What a killer place that is! I hope more parties will take place there. BIG THANKS to the F-8 crew for a splendid experience. Looked like they had things well in hand on all aspects of the party. Also looked like people were respecting the space by keeping down the litter--way to go, everyone! It was another party with no EnhancEmEnt, but the vibe (especially on the dance "floor") was more than enough to sustain me and bring me into an awareness that I'm just starting to get into. Still feeling the love, intensifying as we share it, - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 12:51:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA06204; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:37 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA06193; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:33 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id MAA21178; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:28 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id MAA17844; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 12:51:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: PlastiKKK To: John cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk So did you ever find out if Dan went up? And did you hear anything of those "free tapes for the first 200 people"? RaVe On! _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ \ | | \ | |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | _| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 13:22:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA09411; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:22:19 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA09405; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:22:16 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id NAA15845; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:22:11 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:22:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: PlastiKKK In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > So did you ever find out if Dan went up? > > And did you hear anything of those "free tapes for the first 200 people"? As far as I know, he didn't show up (good for him). If anyone got tapes, I didn't see them... That party definitely wasn't worth even $20... I don't think I'll ever go to a Plastik again... I just really had nothing better to do and couldn't get into Wicked.. :) I *don't* know too much about who throws Plastik anymore, but Daniel (who used to be a part of it) told me that the investors took over the party awhile back. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 13:23:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA09529; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:23:35 -0700 Received: from engr90.scudc.scu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA09519; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:23:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199606032023.NAA09519@taz.hyperreal.com> Received: by engr90.scudc.scu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA264733210; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:20:10 -0700 From: Thomas Schwarz Subject: seeking Austin/Justin from F-8 Full Moon To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:20:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 393 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi, I'm seeking for Austin/Justin (??, sorry for confusing your name) who drove with Jess, Eric and me to the F-8 Full Moon Party last Saturday. You left your flashlight in my car. Please email me or call me at (H): (408) 246-2968 or (O): (408) 554-5194 to make an appointment for giving the flashlight back to you. Or if anybody knows his phone number, let me know. Love&Peace, Thomas From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 13:54:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA12944; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:54:16 -0700 Received: from umr.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA12924; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 13:54:09 -0700 Received: from saucer.cc.umr.edu (saucer.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.58]) via ESMTP by hermes.cc.umr.edu (8.7.5/R.4.16) id PAA25960; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:53:33 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (rkumar@localhost) by saucer.cc.umr.edu (8.6.12/M.3.01) id PAA07440; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:53:32 -0500 Message-Id: <199606032053.PAA07440@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Subject: full moon weekend To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:53:32 -0500 (CDT) From: "roger kumar" X-Www-Page: http://www.umr.edu/~rkumar/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk :) what a weekend!! the frequency-8 party was the smack, thanks to all those who put it on, thanks to jess for getting us tickets, thanks to all the cool people who went that made it great. it was in the same place as the other F8 party I went to last summer, but still a cool spot. we crashed out on the side of the trail for a long while, we were ultra-tired from a party we wnet to at stanford.. did any other sfraves people go? it was free... turntablists qbert, shortkut, apollo, etc etc were there. totally different for the 'rave' thing, but entirely great nonetheless, on the stanford campus with many many students. it was cool meeting all of you, even though i was totally dead saturday night :) we left the F8 party about 4:30 to watch the moon shimmer off the ocean, and to see the sun come up over the hills. -- pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted _l public keys on server or by request From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 14:22:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA15784; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:22:36 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA15773; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:22:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfogler@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id OAA63304 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:21:57 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:21:51 -0700 (PDT) From: jess To: sfraves Subject: F8 - pure magic Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk F8 was a beautiful and magical party. After playing ticket master at my house to a host of SFRavers, a bunch of us made our way towards Stinson beach under a giant silvery moon that reflected off the ocean in the most enticing way. I knew it was going to be a great party and I was in a serious mood to dance like a wild woman. After parking our car and being shuttled to the trail head (more like a hole in the bushes) we wound around a path until we heard hints of music and then came upon this intimate clearing, trees lit from below with colored lights and ravers already wiggling to the hypnotic goa beats. I came prepared for cold weather and ended up stripping down to my long johns and borrowing a T-shirt because within a few minutes, I was dripping with sweat. Ivo started the party off with an absolutely awe-inspiring Goa set that had me wacked out and flying, my feet barely touching the ground for hours. After Ivo came Mystr-E who played a really solid and eclectic hard-trance set - very cool - it was really full of surprises and quirks and the energy was good - fast, energetic and open Mars had an amazing beginning but there was a power problem for about 15 which sort of killed the vibe (musically) and it took him a long while to get going again. Cool moment: Check it out guys - I met my match dancing :) I had been dancing really intensely for a while when I looked over and this amazing woman was dancing near me - and she danced just like me - with the same energy and similar style - and we just hooked into each other - playing off one another - feeding each other with energy - and I kept laughing and laughing because it was so damn good. Cool moment: This guy showed up with a suit covered in lights (maybe you've seen him) and these hand-held flashing like thingys that he danced with - just beautful. Cool moment(s): I kept thinking about all our friends at TF and I felt so enveloped in our connection - I really knew we were all together even though we were separated in space - I think one of the reasons this party was so special was that the location and the decorations and lights that F8 had done made the place look like some sort of fairy circle or secret witches coven ritual. That, plus the incredible trance made this a really enchanted evening. Ranting and Raving ** jess ** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 14:40:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA17371; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:40:16 -0700 Received: from relay5.UU.NET by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA17364; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:40:12 -0700 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.32]) id QQasoc29867; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rts2.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:40:10 -0400 Received: from hp700.unrrts.com (hp700.unrrts.com [198.252.162.70]) by rts.unrrts.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA11830 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:16:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (george@localhost) by hp700.unrrts.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA11528 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 14:17:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199606032117.OAA11528@hp700.unrrts.com> X-Authentication-Warning: hp700.unrrts.com: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: F-8 review Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 14:17:29 -0700 From: George Feil Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Thanks to everyone on the net who suggested I attend Frequency-8 on Saturday. To say I wasn't disappointed is a gross understatement... Environment: fabulous! The weather was perfect -- calm air, clear skies, and a very bright, full moon, gave the mountains and ocean an eerie glow. The hike to the location was very magical and trippy, with the eerie lime-green glow sticks guiding the way, the babbling brook to the side, and the lush flora encroaching on the trail. The tree-canopied location where the party was, smack against a cliff, was wonderful (save the nettles on the side -- ouch!). Music: totally chakra-stimulating! I started off getting down to the trance, guided by Myster-E. Then, just as the sun was beginning to influence the sky again, I got my second wind, and fell into the influence of the beat yet again. [Who was the last dj spinning that morning?] Vibe: warm and loving. Although I arrived by myself, with a friend arriving from SJ later in the night, I didn't feel at all alone. Most everybody was sharing smiles and treats. I met a couple of first-timers from SF, and several other folks from Sac'to. I also got to meet Jess, Austin, and MARS (who, it turns out, was the one who sold me the tix at the store). I was surprised at the small ratio of dancers to chillers, but I didn't mind -- there was plenty of energy in the cozy dance space to go 'round. Strange moment of the evening: when I arrived in the parking lot, this young, rather large woman was giving our lot guide, Jay (?) a hard time about getting in. It was clear that she was eminating a polarized, negative vibe -- for instance, she asked if there was going to be a lot of booze there. As I walk up to Jay to introduce myself, she claims I don't have a ticket (which, in fact, I did), and called him Jay a liar. She then proceeded to harass everyone else in the lot, alternating her conversation between wanting to get in, "Because I my friend said it was going to be good," and dissing the scene. Finally, she left with her posse, headed back towards the Golden Gate. We all breathed a sigh of relief... All in all, it was a fabulous first time at a F-8 event. I headed back to the city feeling totally connected with the universe, and shared a big smile with the GG troll... -G- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 15:56:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA24697; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:56:24 -0700 Received: from moon.sirius.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA24680; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:56:20 -0700 Received: from erase99.sirius.com (ppp051-sm0.sirius.com [205.134.229.51]) by moon.sirius.com (8.6.12/8.6.9p) with SMTP id PAA00148 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:54:13 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960603225548.008bc004@140.174.229.14> X-Sender: erase99@140.174.229.14 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 15:55:48 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Campy 99 Subject: carlos' scratching Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >I think someone needs to send Carlos back to DJ school, so they can teach >him that when he's scratching, he can turn the shit WAY down. He >actually had a pretty good set, but his annoying "wobbly" scratching >fucked it up. Of course, the fly skimmies sitting next to me were going >"awww yeah... Carlos is fucking shit up." well... i think i've heard carlos do the scratchy thing before and i just _loved_ it. of course, it was with a funky electro beat so it fit in perfectly. i couldn't see it working with anything else, like house. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 15:58:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA24962; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:58:55 -0700 Received: from gw3.pacbell.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA24951; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:58:48 -0700 Received: from srv.PacBell.COM (mother.srv.PacBell.COM) by gw3.pacbell.com (5.x/PacBell-10/18/95) id AA07951; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 15:58:09 -0700 Received: from pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM by srv.PacBell.COM (4.1/Mother-7/26/95) id AA18842; Mon, 3 Jun 96 15:58:08 PDT Received: by pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07083; Mon, 3 Jun 96 15:58:07 PDT From: lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel) Message-Id: <9606032258.AA07083@pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM> Subject: Tribal Future report To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 15:58:06 PDT Cc: jlf3@mofo.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk As reported, TF was more than a rave, it was a timeless gathering that captured the essence of what being truly human might be: in harmony with our true nature(s) and with the nature that surrounds us. Past, Present and Future met at the center as the Sun, Moon and Stars circled around us and and danced to the rhythms of interchanging Matter, Energy, Space and Consciousness. Or something like that. ;) Assorted commentary: I enjoyed the semi-chaotic nature of the DJ lineup. Many DJ's I spoke to weren't sure if or when they would be spinning, they just showed up with records and hoped for the best. Kudos to Mark (Ameba) for the DJ time slot juggling act; the musical order that emerged from the chaos was fantastic and the sound system was excellent. There was even a separate ambient system setup, but I only found the time to pay it a short visit. Someone already mentioned the glowstick dancers. If any of you are on this list, thanx for the mesmerizing moves. That red glowing football thingie being tossed around was also pretty cool. I socialized a bit, but mostly danced or blissed out or scrounged around for food when we realized that we didn't want to eat the crap we brought with us. Fortunately, everyone was into sharing, and loads of fresh fruit was put out all over the place. The DJs were great. Even when people weren't dancing everyone was grooving to the nonstop tunes that permeated the camp. 2 sets stood out from the pack for me: Fred Huette's, who really got the dancers going late saturday afternoon (Excellent set, Fred!) and Tony who just amazed me and everyone around me with a perfect blend of acid-tinged techno. It's been a while since I tranced out to an entire set like that. The only glitch was the generater dying during the middle of his set as if to say, "Hold on Tony, there's not enough power on earth to feed the energy you're creating here!" Some of the Sunday daytime sets were also quite juicy - especially that scratchy hip-hopish sample-heavy stuff that's been getting more popular in "chill" rooms lately. I think we can thank DJs Corbin and Everett for that. And some tasty Jungle was also spun. Ethan's unanticipated evening set was also a nice suprise. A lot of people prefer to hear trance in a hot sweaty warehouse, but I always find those sounds more enjoyable reverberating through the wind and trees. It was almost too hot to dance during midday, but then this hose with a spray nozzle was introduced, and a bunch of us had a lot of fun dancing under a communal shower. I didn't do the mud bath thing, but appreciated experiencing it vicariously when Tomcat and Monicat visited the dance area in a muddified state of being. We hung out with some friends at their tent near the sweat lodge, were some guys labored over these big rocks that had to be fired to generate more heat. This was in the morning, I felt like telling them "hey dudes, in a couple of hours it's gonna be plenty hot anyway..." but I think they enjoyed just having something to keep busy with. We've never been camping before, so we couldn't figure out how to do certain things, like when to sleep. So we didn't. Well, Janie managed an hour nap on a bale of hay somewhere since the inside of our tent became such a disgusting mess. We purchased our tent (only $29.99!) just for this occasion. Very easy to set up but we spent a lot of energy unjamming the zippers every time we wanted to get something in or out of it. When it was time to leave, stuffing it back into the little bag that it came in was of course impossible. Unfortunately, we couldn't stay for Sunday evening. Did the Wicked boys make it for some Full Moon madness? I still haven't completely gotten over Garth's 3 hour set from last October's Tribal Future at this same amazing location. Anyway, thanks to the Ameba clan and their helpers for everything they put into this event. They are one more group who have been in this scene long enough to become cynical about it but instead have remained true to the ideals that have made raving on the SF Bay area so special. Glad to hear that F8 went off with a similar spirit. Love to everyone who shared the vibe, once again. Lee _________________________________________________________________________ lxfogel@pacbell.com ( ( ( ( ((0)) ) ) ) ) lee@hyperreal.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 16:25:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA28052; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:25:02 -0700 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA28041; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:24:59 -0700 Received: from [153.37.82.82] (pool018.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.82]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA24111 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:22:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 16:24:37 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: What was I thinkin' (PLASTIK REV) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello alll- Yeah I said I was going to go check out Wicked but a couple of friends who REALLY wanted to check out P paid me to drive them down after work and even chiped in for the $25 dollar tix price... Got to the civic at 1.45am and waiting at the door I could feel the hot air escaping the civic not to mention all the negativity. A bunch of my friends got there early and got free tapes...Simply Jeff mixed tapes... I loved his set at the last Plastik and He was spinning when I got there till probably 3. Very nice break... I was feeling sick from something I ate so for the first hour or 2 I wasn't into the music. I brought a GlowButton of a Simile Face and lots of people liked it - TOO much that several people tried to steel it from me, one girl walked up and riped it off my shirt to show her boy friend(What the fuk). No smiles, mean faces, people startin shit. Some of my friends got kicked out for smokin a cigerette. Dan, Donald Glaude, and Ghost never spun. I know Trance started things off and they started late 10.30 or 11 (they let people in before the music had started). I heard Carlos's set was short, then Simply Jeff and Mark Farina were next. I don't know if some one came on after M.F. but J-J closed things out with some great dancable tunes. The only thing that kept me happy was the music. I spent alot of time by my self dancing because I couldn't leave - The people I came with were kicked out and I didn't even know. I spent the last 3 hours of the night trying to find my friends so I could leave... I guess Garth, J Howard, and Hipp-e didn't show up either. No decorations, no murals, just lasers and a video screen. This whole party made me not want to rave any more, I felt so terrable that I just wanted to go home and not go to any more parties. How was Wicked? (anyone) I think I'm gonna take a break from parties...Maybe I'll go to sunset... Only I really would like to hear Doc Martin and Doran spin at Basics next weekend...I'll see how I feel come Sat. Hope everyone had a great TF weekend See 'round . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 17:10:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA02527; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:30 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA02520; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:27 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA19421; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: Campy 99 cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: carlos' scratching In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960603225548.008bc004@140.174.229.14> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > >I think someone needs to send Carlos back to DJ school, so they can teach > >him that when he's scratching, he can turn the shit WAY down. He > >actually had a pretty good set, but his annoying "wobbly" scratching > >fucked it up. Of course, the fly skimmies sitting next to me were going > >"awww yeah... Carlos is fucking shit up." > > well... i think i've heard carlos do the scratchy thing before and i just > _loved_ it. of course, it was with a funky electro beat so it fit in > perfectly. i couldn't see it working with anything else, like house. It's *okay* but he can't touch someone like Dan or Terry Mullan... he needs to turn the scratching WAY DOWN... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 17:29:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA04174; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:29:06 -0700 Received: from netcom8.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA04167; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:29:03 -0700 Received: (from branka@localhost) by netcom8.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA25132; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:29:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:29:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Branka Cehic Subject: Tribal Future (very, very long) To: SFRaves Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This was my last big/weekend party before I go home to Croatia for 3 weeks and it was probably the best one that could have happened. Although I was there from Fri night through Sunday afternoon I feel like I spend at least a week at that beautiful spot. Friday night was pretty mellow, but it gave us a chance to set up the camp, meet people who were already there, try out the hot tubs and dance a little. Saturday seemed like it lasted forever (which was great). More and more friends kept showing up and by the end of the afternoon the place was packed with tents and smily faces. The music kept playing all day and few of us kept dancing throughout the day and into the night. I had to take a quick break and take a nap around 11pm (I was getting so tired and zooning at he empty space that people were wondering what's wrong with me), but Melissa and my roommate made sure I was up at 1:30am, because I was not supposed to miss another minute of the wonderful party. The dance floor was absolutely jamming at that time. Erik was dancing with a huge grin on his face and it was great to see him that way (he wasn't that happy at FTT). I had glow-sticks and was loving every minute of dancing. I lend them to Renaud for a little while (and BTW he was wasn't any worse than me), but in few minutes I felt naked without them, so I had to steal them away from him :). I danced for some of Tony's set, but had to give up and find my tent. Sunday was relaxing and I was way too sad when I had to leave, but there were just way too many things to take care of before I go to my trip (I'll miss you guys when I am gone). Thanks to everybody who made this event so beautiful - Amebas, DJs, landowner, people who were there. Big hugs to all my friends that helped making this event even more special to me - Leslie and Sara whom I spend a lot of time with just having a nice girl-chat :); Kirsten and John who ended up getting lost on the way there and going through few streams because they were following a car that just passed there (that was my friends and me); Renaud who was smiling this weekend and resisting taking his shirt of for some reason till I convinced him he was silly; Erik who was spreading such a wonderful energy around; Stephan & Lydia, Stacy & Gerrard and the rest of the gang who is not on the SFRaves; Shawna whom I didn't really see that much, but I knew she was there; Tim who was happy (yeah, his truck is back); some of my friends from work who have never been to a rave before and who loved it; Alan who was spraying the dance floor with the water Sunday and gave some of us nice, cold shower; Brendon and his friends who fed me cookies on Sunday; Troy and Nicole whom I finally met and all other beutiful people I didn't mention. I wish more of my friends were there because it is impossible to describe the beauty created at that place. I could keep writing about this (I can't stop thinking about it) but this is getting too long, I am at work and I am sure you guys are bored with my babbling. Love you all, Branka P.S. Hope to see some of you at Come Unity (I am leaving Thursday morning for Croatia). P.P.S. Sorry this is so long, I couldn't help it From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 17:31:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA04420; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:31:30 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA04412; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:31:26 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA11028; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:31:55 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA29305; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:30:04 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 3 Jun 1996 17:30:08 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: carlos' scratching To: "Campy 99" , "John" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.3 b1 d5 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>>carlos' scratching >It's *okay* but he can't touch someone like Dan or Terry Mullan... he >needs to turn the scratching WAY DOWN... You are *so* right, my friend. Carlos takes it too far, too often... -Jason -------------------------------------- Date: 6/3/96 5:18 PM To: Jason Green* From: John > >I think someone needs to send Carlos back to DJ school, so they can teach > >him that when he's scratching, he can turn the shit WAY down. He > >actually had a pretty good set, but his annoying "wobbly" scratching > >fucked it up. Of course, the fly skimmies sitting next to me were going > >"awww yeah... Carlos is fucking shit up." > > well... i think i've heard carlos do the scratchy thing before and i just > _loved_ it. of course, it was with a funky electro beat so it fit in > perfectly. i couldn't see it working with anything else, like house. It's *okay* but he can't touch someone like Dan or Terry Mullan... he needs to turn the scratching WAY DOWN... ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with SMTP;3 Jun 1996 17:13:51 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in1.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA15147; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:04:49 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA02550; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:34 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA02527; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:30 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA02520; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:27 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA19421; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 17:10:19 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: Campy 99 cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: carlos' scratching In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19960603225548.008bc004@140.174.229.14> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 18:02:54 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA07321; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:02:54 -0700 Received: from bethe.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA07314; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:02:51 -0700 Received: by bethe.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD2.05) id AA07248; Mon, 3 Jun 96 18:02:16 PDT From: alves@bethe.ucdavis.edu (David Alves) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 96 18:02:16 PDT Message-Id: <9606040102.AA07248@bethe.ucdavis.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: wicked Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi, I went to Wicked. Garth went to Detroit. And back. And back again. Someone named Mary was in the men's room. She liked hairspray. I danced. 2 guys in a muscle car outside Wicked asked me what the place was. I said dancing, house. Then they asked me where to go dancing. I was left speechless by the stupidity of the question. They yelled something about fleece sweatpants and roared away. Dave From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 18:37:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA10300; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:37:26 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA10287; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:37:22 -0700 Received: from 204.31.236.113 (sjx-ca34-17.ix.netcom.com [204.31.236.113]) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA06526 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:36:47 -0700 Message-ID: <31B2EC2F.1DF5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 06:44:15 -0700 From: CT Reply-To: ctd-zine@ix.netcom.com Organization: CT D-Zine X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: hello all you happy people! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hey everybody! I hope all of you had a happy and fun-filled weekend. As for me, I will be trekkin down to so-cal for a while so I'll be missing you all while I'm gone.:( btw, I still have a ton of laminates. Since I probably won't be at any parties for a while, you can send me a self addressed stamped envelope and I'll make sure you get one. So everybody take care and keep smiling! PLUR Hugs, CT 4912 Avenida de lago Santa Clara, CA 95054 --------------------------------------- ______ ________ / ___/ /__ __/ / /__ / / /_____/ /__/ D-Zine Labs graphics-flyers-dream manifestations Terry Estioko (408)955-8638 ---------------------------------------- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 18:45:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA10780; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:45:17 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA10775; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:45:14 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id SAA05709; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:45:10 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id SAA24787; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:45:09 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:45:09 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: Plastik To: John Elias Darrow cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <9606031851.AA14404@ucscb.UCSC.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'm glad you had the inteligence not to go to Plastik 'cuz I went and was very unhappy, especially after Oracle. It was the one my friend liquid7 and I put on @ the UCSC campus. Did you make it to it? RaVe On! _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ \ | | \ | |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | _| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 18:59:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA11797; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:59:12 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA11786; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:59:08 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id SAA07294; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:59:04 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id SAA25877; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:59:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:59:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: What was I thinkin' (PLASTIK REV) To: Austin cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'm really sorry you had such a horrible night @ Plastik...but I hear you loud and clear. It sucked, hardcore. I hope you got home safely. You must remember though that it was just one bad rave out of many and you shouldn't let it discourage you. Just think, summer is right around the corner and will start to kick ass even more than have been :). Don't give up ** RaVe On! _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ \ | | \ | |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | _| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 19:48:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA16404; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:48:14 -0700 Received: from netcom22.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA16386; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:48:09 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id TAA02237; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:48:06 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606040248.TAA02237@netcom22.netcom.com> Subject: Mostly Good Weekend To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:48:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 644 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] Well - if we subtract the bad experiences folks had at Plastik , it seemed to have been a very fine weekend for many folks! Maybe F8/Tribal Future/ Wicked/and the C.C.C. Goa Gil thing "sucked up" all the available good vibes , leaving Plastik with "the shit", so to speak. To Madame Mercury and others who felt abused by the Plastik experience - don't read the perky posts about Tribal Future or the other "good vibe" events that happened this weekend with too much envy. Just think of them as portents of great raves to come! There will be a rejuvinating magic event in your future! Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 19:56:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA17199; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:56:34 -0700 Received: from netcom22.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA17194; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:56:30 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id TAA03666; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:56:28 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606040256.TAA03666@netcom22.netcom.com> Subject: Next Tribal Future? To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 19:56:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 116 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi ! So, since I've missed them so far, when's the next Tribal Future? October? Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 22:24:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA00608; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:24:42 -0700 Received: from ix13.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA00603; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:24:39 -0700 Received: from wck-ca8-13.ix.netcom.com by ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id WAA21358; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:22:07 -0700 Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:22:07 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960603035452.343710b2@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: Tribal Future Review (long!) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey all! Finally recovered enough of my previously lost sensibilities to actually get around to my Tribal Future Review! :) I was writing a friend about it, and after I finished describing it in that email, I realized that I probably wouldn't be able to do as good a job describing it if I had to do it over again, so I just copied that paragraph here (with a few edits!). Yeah, there are a cuppla drug references, but that part was so integrated int the whole experience that it deserves as much mention as the rest of it. Anyway, read on if you dare! Ladies & Gentlemen of the Jury, I have never danced so much at any one rave as I did at Tribal Future. I started at about 10 pm, and with occasional breaks, danced pretty hard till about 10 am the next morning! Boy does acid give you energy! God what an amazing night. (I only took 1/2 hit of acid, but I swear that trip was way stronger than the last one I took that was a whole hit.) It just so completely blew me away, I've never actually listened to rave music (especially with a real good sound system at an actual rave) or danced on acid before. What an amazing experience! There wasn't a lot of light, just lots of strands of white christmas lights strung up throughout the trees all around the dance circle, with the full moon blazing so brightly above that I felt like I needed sunglasses! It was so mystical & beautiful to look at and be a part of. So I'm frying pretty hard here, and I'm buried in this wilderness of dark moving shapes and waving limbs flowing everywhere with glow-sticks and flashing lights (which make sparkly glowing trails that resemble brightly lit comets two feet above my head!), all randomly and separately, yet all in complete unison with the booming beats coming out of all four speakers, which are set up in the "4 corners" setup around the edges of the grassy dance circle. The music is just perfect! Great loud deep bass beats, not too loud so it hurts your ears, but just right, all flowing in & out of my moving limbs and my own mind. The woods and hills and crickets and creatures are all around, you can hear them in the trees. Crickets always seem to have this amazing ability (and other people have mentioned this too) to chirp in time to the music, what a perfect combination of nature and technology! It was sooooo beautiful! And I must make mention, Galen's set really just blew me away. I've really got to start paying more attention to him, I really disliked his stuff when I first heard him, cuz the first time i heard him he 1) played music I really didn't like and 2) did a really bad job at it cuz he was having a bad night. Then I'd hear him at Sunsets, and I didn't like the kind of stuff he played there either. But then I heard him at the 420 party, and I really dug on it. Now this time around, I think I heard one of the most perfect sets I've heard yet, it was so perfect in conjunction with everything I just described. I can't believe how well it went along with my trip, it just added *immensely* to it, blended amazingly with it. It really hit that musical "resonant frequency" in me. Boy, I really just can't explain well enough what I experienced then, but I know you understand how sometimes words in the english language just aren't enough to describe some experiences. For a while after that, later on in the night, the acid trip got too intense and I experienced sensory overload (all too easy with all this going on!), so I just wandered around the woods on the paths with my friend Sam who kept me company, and that was really cool too, hangin in the woods under the moon, and then after I came down a bit and was ready to deal with the sensory overload of the party below, I came out again and danced some more. And after I was completely off the acid (it was such a long trip, I'm so used to the shortness of e! This lasted from 10:30pm till a bit after dawn), I just felt so happy and infused with energy, I just couldn't stop dancing! It was so great to see everybody, altho I didn't meet as many people as I usually do, cuz i wasn't as social on acid as I am on e, and when the acid first started hitting it actually felt like a real intense e experience coming on! Got to get in some good quality hang-out time with Wayne & Marcy & co. in the back of this big U-Haul trailer which they had turned into this nifty little chill-zone with blankets & pillows and candles everywhere. That was a really nifty way to start the trip! But then I had to bounce up & run around & check everything out. Wow! :) I sure hope they do it again sometime soon. And it was particularly nice because nothing shut down just because the sun came out. The music kept going, people kept dancing, and the whole party just kept going on, altho in a more mellow way as the day progressed, and nobody had to worry about leaving or driving anywhere. It was really amazing. I pretty much enjoyed the music the whole time it was going on, even to the housier stuff they played later in the morning, to the jungly stuff they played after that. Just seemed like whatever was being played fit in perfectly with whatever was going on at the time. And it was totally random a lot of the time too, which made it even better, cuz the dj lineup was never really set. Dj's just kinda showed up with their records, & it seems that everybody got a turn, in addition to dj's that were scheduled to go. Ethan played a nifty techno set, which everybody really dug on and that really got the nighttime party going, followed by Galen (whose nighttime sets I will probably now always have this bizarre emotional attachment too), and I lost track after that, but it was all *great*!! I had so much fun dancing, it was so different on acid. Like Melanie (who gets my vote for Cutest Little Raver in her little lime-green gingham 50's bathing suit!) said about dancing on acid, I'll probably never dance the same again! :) At about 10:30am, I finally got to sleep for about 1 1/2 to 2 hours or so, lying in the grass in the gardens under the trees with the sun overhead. This was, of course, after the blueberry pancake breakfast they served us! We had brought a bunch of fresh picked fruit too, which people seemed to enjoy. It was so cool to see this, there were tents everywhere in the areas surrounding the main dance, kitchen, & garden areas. It seemed like such a community, not at all like a massive party, altho there were 400 people there (which seems like a lot for a small outdoor dance area, so I would normally consider 400 people at an outdoor party pretty large). You only got people there who were willing to camp out for 1-2 nights, only people who were willing to drive 3-plus hours (part of that over dirt roads) to get there, only people who were willing to share everything with each other (water, food, living space, etc). It was really a diverse beautiful group of people, and because it was so spread out, you never felt crowded like you can in a confined space like a warehouse. O h yeah, *big* props to the Amebas who (in addition to having this shindig in the first place of course) were kind enough to give me two more tickets outright after I realized that my two original tickets were gone from my purse after it had been stolen! When I explained the situation to Allen, he didn't even question me, but simply said "Oh yeah, no problem, here's two more!" Wow! That totally made my weekend, you guys can't imagine my disappointment when I finally realized on Thursday night that there really was more missing from my purse than just my credit cards! :( Those idiots took my book of stamps and my Tribal Future tickets! (maybe the thieves were at the party, eh?) Anyway, I am so glad to have shared this experience with those of you who went, and I hope to share another of these experiences in the future with those of you who didn't! I hope all of you had your respective good times too, at the parties you did make it to. Love, Shawna *It's not easy being cheezy...* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%\|/%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%%% %%%%%% %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% %%%%% %%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%% %%%%%% %%%%%% %%%%% %%%%%%%%% %%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%% %%%%%%%% %%%%%%%% %%%%%%%% %%%% o %%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 22:42:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA01647; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:42:36 -0700 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA01642; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:42:33 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA29598 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:41:57 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:41:57 -0400 Message-ID: <960604014157_406768526@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Roommate search begins, Berkely/sf Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Welp, it's about that time! I start school in Berkely (CCAC) in the fall. I think I'm leaving here July 1st, but I might have to couch surf for the summer, as I need to start building clients in the bay area. (<-not a blatant advertisement for my graphic design services which are avaiable by calling 916 855 6762) Anyway, I'm searching for the ideal living quarters. Either for a roommate or for a room in a current space. Communal living in a house would be optimum. I'm very into making home, well, home. My price range is the tough one, since I'll be schooling full time I have to try to stay as low as possible, like under 350/mo, preferebly less. Regarding area: I have a car, and will get a motorcycle, my school is on the berkely/oakland border. I would like to live close to the school, but would consider living in SF if I found the right place. Thanks for listening, Love, Steveo From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 22:46:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA01951; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:46:38 -0700 Received: from moon.sirius.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA01944; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:46:35 -0700 Received: from erase99.sirius.com (ppp038-sm0.sirius.com [205.134.229.38]) by moon.sirius.com (8.6.12/8.6.9p) with SMTP id WAA24815 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:45:21 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960604054629.0073d008@140.174.229.14> X-Sender: erase99@140.174.229.14 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 22:46:29 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Campy 99 Subject: tribal future Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk had a blast.. should have all my pictures developed by friday, and i'll try and get them scanned and up on the web for everyone to see as soon as i can. i think i had the best night of my life on saturday. whomever was spinning that hard trance in the early morning completely blew my mind. =) a big hug to everyone i met, and to everyone i didn't. brendan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 3 23:52:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA06481; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:52:03 -0700 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA06476; Mon, 3 Jun 1996 23:52:00 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA14293 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:51:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 02:51:25 -0400 Message-ID: <960604025124_317982187@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: F-8 Kudos! But where were all the sfr'ers Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Very nice! A solid 8 smileys! However, where were all the sfravers? I met Jess, the wonderful woman who procured our tickets (Big Thanks). She claimed to have met her dancing match, I find this hard to believe, that girl goes off! I also ran into Doran, what a swell guy, Pure and real. (He said that he sometimes posts under someone else's name on the list, but I forgot it, anyone know?) Other than that, I couldn't find a laminate anywhere! Oh well, has a great time, the goa was a refreshing experience. Would have been nice to see more of the moon, but the giant majestic rock crag made up for it, along with the excellent vibe. After a long week I ended up retiring to my tent with the dream I had came with, a bit too early. We woke from a goa filled slumber at 1:30(PM)! to find all the happy people had long abandoned our mecca by the creek taking just about every waterbottle, candy wrapper and cigarette butt with them. Good work team! Thanks F-8! (P.S. someone left their blanket, I packed it out, but it stunk, :=o so I tossed it) Love, Steveo From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 01:08:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA13550; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:08:27 -0700 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA13541; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:08:24 -0700 Received: (from star@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA22661; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:08:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Starchild X-Sender: star@orion To: Friends & Family Subject: 411 Needed on cross-country trek funspots! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi all! I'm happy for everyone who had a great time at Tribal Futures... Chikako and I tried to go, but thanks to me forgetting to bring the flier with the map on it, we ended up driving over 3 hours each way plus at least another three tooling around the Mendocino-Fort Bragg area looking for the party with no success (of course because it wasn't there, it was in Willits). I'd heard someone say Mendocino, and I thought it would be simple enough to just go up there and find it, small town, right, no need to go back for the map. We kept pulling off the road to turn off the motor and listen in the quiet night air for the distant thump of bass, but no such luck. We pulled over cars and intercepted locals on the street who had the appearance of one who might indulge in raves. Nada. Needless to say, we were bummed. Got no sleep, and no party, just driving around and burning petrol. When's the next outdoor rave-festival? Much love, <<< Starchild >>> From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 01:16:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA14514; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:16:42 -0700 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA14506; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:16:38 -0700 Received: (from star@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id BAA23265; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:16:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 01:16:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Starchild X-Sender: star@orion To: Friends & Family Subject: 411 Needed - friends back east? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi all! Despite our Tribal Future disaster, Chikako and I are in good spirits because we are leaving tomorrow to drive across the U.S., something I've long wanted to do. I also wanted to post something to the list earlier asking people if they knew anyone along our route (Las Vegas, Grand Canyon, New Mexico, Oklahoma City, Little Rock Arkansas, Memphis, etc.) who we could hook up with to find a local party or something, but one thing and another, I didn't get around to it, so I figure better late than never. Got any fun-loving friends wanting to get their kicks along the old Route 66, give me a shout. 8) (415) 626-3036 or 270-7887. I'm especially interested in people or stuff to do in or around the capitol, since we'll be there for a number of days. Mucho gracias, <<< Starchild >>> P.S. - Are there any special vaccinations you need to get before traveling inside the Beltway? ;) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 03:19:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id DAA29384; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 03:19:48 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA29379; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 03:19:45 -0700 From: polo@eden.com Received: from [206.81.226.216] (net-7-216.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.216]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id FAA16822 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:19:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:24:40 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: I Was a Grade School Nitrous Fiend Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Kyung Rok reminisces: >Actually, I was just thinking back to third grade when the >hyperventilation fad swept my class. >Everyone kinda chilled out, tho', after >this one time Karen Amanse started trippin' like Helen Keller before the >Miracle-worker kicked in the special ed.. Karen, ahead of her time, was >anachronistically kickin' junglistic convulsions when she should >have been mellowing out on a soft beatless ambient beanbag cloud. Great description. It happened in my school, too, but in seventh grade and it was me who introduced everyone to it (via my "druggie" cousin). in just one moring we had three kids pass out (we weren't doing it with the assistance of someone holding you up - just hyperventilate while squatting then stand up quickly with a big breath). They were sent to the school nurse who diagnosed them all as "not having eaten breakfast" or some such nonsense. Postscript - I tried this again recently during a dry period here in Texas and it was scary with a capital "S". Blackout, convulsions, hit my head on the counter. Not a whole lot of fun. You have been warned. Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 03:19:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id DAA29399; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 03:19:51 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA29394; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 03:19:49 -0700 From: polo@eden.com Received: from [206.81.226.216] (net-7-216.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.216]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id FAA16826 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:19:43 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 05:24:44 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: ORACLe/Goa Trance Under The Full Moon Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk About Goa Trance Under The Full Moon, Larry Ching noticed: > I wandered over to the DJ coffin - no music was happening yet, as they >were waiting for an amp. It seemed to me that the amp wasn't all they were >missing - no turntables! Hmmm , just a lot of little DAT portable recorders >hooked up to the mixer. Then , a blocky heavyset man in his 30's(?) with >dark brown dreadlocks ambled up and started to checked the DATs out and >choose DAT tapes out of a bag. He was Goa Gil. My understanding of Goa is that in the actual city of Goa itself, the DJ's (TJ's?) play music on tapes because it is so hot there that the vinyl records become soft and pliable. So this sounds like a TRUE Goa event! Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 07:20:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA19410; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 07:20:39 -0700 Received: from cmac20.Colorado.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA19396; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 07:20:34 -0700 Received: from [198.59.61.5] by cmac20.Colorado.EDU with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:24:23 -0600 Subject: Hello sf-raves! (Re: Hello mtn-raves!) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 96 08:24:20 -0600 From: Andy Hawks To: "Eric P. Peterson" , "Mountain Raves" , "Sanfrandisco Raves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1378245833-4338400@cmac20.Colorado.EDU> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Eric P. Peterson said to mtn-raves: >sfraves loves you! > >:) - E we love you too! big hugs. thanks for the community. have a happy tuesday. =) __ __ ___/ ) andy@andy.colorado.edu ( \___ (___) (_____ peace<->love<->unity<->respect _____) (___) (___)> _____ believe in the power of love _____ <(___) (___)_/ \_(___) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 07:45:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA21773; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 07:45:26 -0700 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA21763; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 07:45:24 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id HAA08961; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 07:45:22 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606041445.HAA08961@netcom7.netcom.com> Subject: C.C.C. number? To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 07:45:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 408 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] C.C.C. ( Communion Conciousness Collective (?)) Contact Info? After attending their great Goa Trance thing on the beach last Friday, I was wondering if anyone here on SFRaves knows if they have a voicemail number? I would certainly be interested in attending more of their events, especially if the events are in the Santa Cruz/San Mateo area again. Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 08:02:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA23279; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:02:53 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA23273; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:02:49 -0700 Received: (from raygun@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA02486; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:02:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Reagan Reid To: Mark Camp* cc: sfr Subject: Re: Its like a Heat Wave....... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yeah- yesterday, it was 98 degrees here in Concord! Reagan On 3 Jun 1996, Mark Camp* wrote: > .........Burning in my Heart > > Its just way too damn hot. > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 08:21:49 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA24823; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:21:49 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA24811; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:21:44 -0700 Received: from well (surfpunk@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA19406 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:21:41 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:21:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Cyr Subject: Burning Man Mega Theme Camp To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well, let's see . . . Burning Man is three months away I know for certain that a lot of us are planning to go . . . To the best of my knowledge this year's theme is "A Season in Hell" so, . . . I would like to help organize a mega theme camp called "Disco Inferno" the idea would be to rent and transport a mongo sound system and have it set up by Thurs afternoon Various cooperatives could take over the system for blocks of time and particular parties, or, individual DJs could also block out periods of time In my ultra dream Friends and Family, F8, Gateway, Pacific, Ultraviolet, CCC, Spaz, Organic and others who i have admired over the years would be involved along with such newcomers as The River and St. John's Some of my old friends from this list have already heard some of my fanciful ideas First meeting will be tonite at 7:00 in San Rafael call 415-868-0450 for more info, or email me privately Jim Cyr (surfpunk@well.com) PS - I'm not REALLY attached to the "Disco Inferno" name, but . . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 08:23:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA24964; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:23:04 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA24958; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:23:01 -0700 Received: from [206.15.64.108] (sf-tty9-ppp.well.com [206.15.64.108]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA19609; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:22:54 -0700 X-Sender: leftjab@mail.well.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 08:28:35 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: leftjab@well.com (leftjab) Subject: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF Cc: Scott Nelson Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Could someone please post all the pertinenet info regarding the >Underworld, Chem Bros., Orb show. Like presale info and at least a 415 >number. > >Thanks! > >love drenalin > >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Scott Nelson - drenalin@salinas.net >SalinasNet - admin@salinas.net http://www.salinas.net >The Web Works - webworks@ultima.org > http://www.ultima.org/WebWorks/ >hyperreal staff - drenalin@hyperreal.com >-------------------------------------------------------------- according to the space children phone #, 415-273-1622, there were severe reservations by most of the artists about playing back-to-back nights in SF and LA -- they are worried about everything being just perfect. Unfortunately, SF is getting the short end, and LA will get everyone on the 22nd. The Chem. Bros are the only ones still confirmed for Friday june 21, and a couple of others might be here Monday the 24th. solstice weekend could become an ambitious roadtrip . . . leftjab still in bliss over tribal future From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 09:07:49 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA29084; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:07:49 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA29066; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:07:43 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA12762 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:06:15 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id JAA28123 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:04:03 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Its like a Heat Wave....... Date: 04 Jun 1996 16:46:49 GMT Message-Id: <84213693.61696803@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk But just wait till those summer nights!!!!! "dance with Me..." Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 09:38:21 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA02730; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:38:21 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA02724; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:38:18 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA15917; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:36:49 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id JAA00287; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:34:04 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: surfpunk@well.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Burning Man Mega Theme Camp Date: 04 Jun 1996 17:27:45 GMT Message-Id: <1965374894.61841328@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >>In my ultra dream Friends and Family, F8, Gateway, Pacific, Ultraviolet, CCC, Spaz, Organic and others who i have admired over the years would be involved along with such newcomers as The River and St. John's Hey Jim, if your to dream, dream BIG.... "Dance with me..." Adam P.S. Wouldyou rather do the opening or closing set for the next F-8? ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 09:43:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA03461; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:43:44 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA03448; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:43:39 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.84] (Cust20.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.84]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA03779; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:43:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199606041643.JAA03779@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:45:39 +1000 To: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Re: Things are kinda Slllooooowwwww..... Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Hmm... Where is everybody that went to Tribal Future?!? > > >Are you guys still there partying your asses off?!? > > >So, How was it?! > It as PHAT, Incredible, and one of the best raves I've been to yet. About 500 tix were sold, and that area is one of the best areas to have a kick-ass party. Lineup was terriffic, but I left at 2 am on Sunday, and things were still going. Spun was on when I left, or was it Garth.. I got there late Friday, sound system wasn't on then, but in morning the music started and kept going. Later that evening, they stopped the music shortly, to re-wire some things, but 15 minutes, it was back on again. Wicked crew Kicked ass, and Garth spun a terrific set. So did Carlos.. I'm sure there will be more reviews, wish I could say more, but cannot stay here much longer and have to upload my Email. Crunchman From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 09:52:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA04602; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:52:59 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA04586; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:52:54 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id JAA07754; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:52:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:52:52 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: NRR Re: WOW! News of the weird! (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk More news of the weird. This came from my sister -kaysee ---------forward------- Speaking of weird but true facts, when I was living in San Diego, a man became very angry at his lover because the lover was either cheating on him or not paying him enough attention. One day, while the man's lover was napping on the couch, the man put a loaded cross-bow to the back of his head and shot his lover. The arrow went through the middle of the man's brain and the tip of the arrow was poking out his forehead. This woke him up and he became very distraught upon finding he had been shot. He was taken to the hospital, where the surgeons removed the feathers from the end of the arrow and pushed it through his brain and out the front of his head. He was not impaired in any way. That was a true story. They showed photos of the man with the arrow poking out of his forehead on the news and showed diagrams of how the surgeons planned to remove the arrow. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 10:17:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA07159; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:17:38 -0700 Received: from mail.thestranger.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA07153; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:17:35 -0700 Received: from [199.238.224.10] by mail.thestranger.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1b11); Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:14:13 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:14:12 -0700 To: nw-raves@hyperreal.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com From: tigger@thestranger.com (Glenn) Subject: How's this for a little gathering?! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi folks, thought I'd forward this info for you who might be interested in this. *Note* I am not affiliated with World Domination and/or the production companies involved with this. I just thought it would be good info to pass along. =) Peace! Tigger -------------Begin Forwarded Message:-------------------- A brief update from World Domination recordings re: LOOP GURU. For all you ambient, techno, world beat groovy people, Organic '96, June 22nd at the Snow Valley Resort in the town of Running Springs, CA (20 minutes before Big Bear) is the place to be. Starting at 4:00pm Saturday, June 22nd and ending at 8:00am Sunday, June 23rd, the event runs as follows: LOOP GURU 7:00pm Meat Beat Manifesto 8:00pm Underworld 9:30pm The Chemical Bros 11pm Orbital 12:40am The Orb 2:30am plus four sound systems with Michael Dog & Jason Bentley and others hitting the decks. During the day there is horseback riding and mountain biking available at the site, along with just plain old communing with nature in the San Bernadino National Forest. For even more info email me or call Barbara Mitchell or Joshua Mills @ World Dom on 213 850 0254. Thanks for your time. ---------------------------------- Dave Allen/World Domination www.underground.net/Worlddom/ For tour info visit http://www.tourdates.com -------------End Forwarded Message:-------------------- 0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0 **************************Go Tribal, Go Deep!!!**************************** 0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0=0 \\\|||/// \\\|||/// \\\|||/// . ======= . ======= . ======= / \| O O | / \| O O | / \| O O | \ / \v_'/ \ / \v_'/ \ / \v_'/ # _| |_ # _| |_ # _| |_ (#) ( ) (#) ( ) (#) ( ) #\//|* *|\\ #\//|* *|\\ #\//|* *|\\ #\/( * )/ #\/( * )/ #\/( * )/ # ===== # ===== # ===== # (\ /) # (\ /) # (\ /) # || || # || || # || || .#---'| |----. .#---'| |----. .#---'| |----. #----' -----' #----' -----' #----' -----' From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 10:20:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA07371; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:20:29 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA07360; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:20:26 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA24338; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:20:24 -0700 Received: from kcroy.vip.best.com (kcroy.vip.best.com [206.86.4.246]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA12764; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:10:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:10:48 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Starchild From: kcroy@BEST.COM (kcroy) Subject: Re: 411 Needed on cross-country trek funspots! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Hi all! > > I'm happy for everyone who had a great time at Tribal Futures... >Chikako and I tried to go, but thanks to me forgetting to bring the flier >with the map on it, we ended up driving over 3 hours each way plus at >least another three tooling around the Mendocino-Fort Bragg area looking >for the party with no success (of course because it wasn't there, it was >in Willits). I'd heard someone say Mendocino, and I thought it would be >simple enough to just go up there and find it, small town, right, no need >to go back for the map. heh. yeah, when i first got to sf, i tried to find a party in the GG Park that way. figured, hey, how big can a park be. errrrr... sorry you didnt get up. (even with maps, a bunch of people took the wrong route and had to drive through some creek, and one group got lost for about 6 hours in the immediate region of the ranch) take care kcroy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 10:37:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA09057; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:37:36 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA09052; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:37:33 -0700 Received: from (peterbf@sfo-ca19-19.ix.netcom.com [205.184.159.51]) by dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA12474 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:36:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 10:36:59 -0700 Message-Id: <199606041736.KAA12474@dfw-ix5.ix.netcom.com> From: peterbf@ix.netcom.com (peter fogel) Subject: tribal future To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk WOW! what a beautiful party! We got there on saturday, and set up camp before checking out the beautiful surroundings. People were doing a group yoga thing, enjoying the hot tubs, mud baths and many were just laying around basking in all the surrounding natural beauty. After dancing a bit I took a nice walk in the woods to chill out just before sunset. After that Phred got me and alot of other people dancing. I danced most of the night, with a few breathers here and there. I thought the music was great. There was a nice variety and I enjoyed it all. Sunday most people blissfully lounged out to the tunes. I alternated on that and some dancing here and there. Angela unfortunately had decided not to come, because she has doctors orders to not dance so her tendinitious in her leg could heal. To bad, because this was a party that many seemed to enjoy by mostly hanging out in the beauty. We usually like to enjoy and share the vibe mostly by dancing, but this party had plenty of vibe floating around all over to be enjoyed all around. We left early sunday afternoon exhausted and fully saturated from all the beautiful music. Lee did a great job driving back, especially in the beginning as we made a wrong turn and drove up this steep hill with huge potholes that looked like only 4-wheeled jeep could drive on, but some how we managed to climb this hill a bit before turning around. Thank you amebas for another great party, something to take with me before angela and I leave for a 2 month adventure in indonesia. Look foward to dancing with you all when we get back in august. Have a beautiful summer everyone. :) peter From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 11:16:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA12562; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:16:30 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA12552; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:16:26 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA12390; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:16:20 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:16:19 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: sfraves@hyperreal.com cc: Kristi Subject: Tribal Future Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'm still trying to digest everything that occurred over the weekend. Tribal Future was simply wonderful. I don't think I could even do it justice by describing my own limited experience. But, I'll try. We left on Friday and proceeded to take a wrong turn to the right instead of the left. We saw another car go that way (Branka) and figured it must have been right!!! (silly idea to act like lemmings, eh?) But, alas, we realized something was very wrong after we drove over 4 creeks and had our little car in 4 wheel drive. So, we turned around and went the right way. Unfortunately, this made us two hours later than hoped for, which meant no light to put our tent up to. After locating a spot in the orchard, behind a hill, we frustratingly put up the stupid tent. Advice: don't put your tent way up a hill because you'll never ever want to walk all the way up there again. Duh, stupid us. Plus, the spot we where we pitched our tent was in the blaring sun all day, another reason we never actually used our tent. Second duh!!! Friday the music played until about 3:30 am. Then it started at 9:30 the next day and never stopped except for a few minor incidents for as long as I can remember (maybe it's still going...!!! :) I heard some great stuff including some funky trip hop that you wouldn't hear at any old rave. There was so much time to play tons of music that we got to hear a huge variety. The James Brown samples rocked my world!!! "Funky Drummer" has to be the most widely sampled song ever. Throughout the weekend there was lots of fun stuff including samples by Madonna, Fela, and some Irish bagpipes. There was also some reggae and hip hop worked in, even some great guitar licks. It all worked really well. Saturday during the day we did a variety of things including hiking around, dancing a little bit, hanging out with great people, and catching some well needed rays for us white bodies!! The gardens were beautiful, lots of bugs (my own passion). Some of the chirping that people heard were actually cicadas and not crickets. I was hoping to see one because there are some really beautiful ones that are bright red, but I never did. (all right, I'm digressing!!!) The rest of my little group showed up around 4 on Saturday and by the time we ate and got them settled, tons of people had started arriving. It was amazing. The spirits were really high. Like Leslie said, the only unhappy people there were people who were truly ill. You have to really want to be there to drive that far and make the effort. Still learning about raving, I noticed this neat phenomenon. As soon as the sun set, it signalled everyone to enter "rave mode." It was uncanny. All of a sudden everyone came out of hiding and communed around the music. Craziness and celebration had begun. It was like this interesting circadian rhythm; lights off, rave on!!! I mentioned this to Leslie, and she said, of course, it's called "getting in the groove." Utterly fascinating. The collective power of 400 human beings was released, and it was the most powerful thing I've ever felt. As people were stomping to the music, the grass got somewhat torn up and the dance area became a dust arena. The moon started rising higher in the sky and illuminated the dusty dancers with it's eery blue light. The glow sticks and blinking lights added to the surreal effect of the hazy dance area. I had this neat little flash light in which you could see the entire beem of light because of the dust. We had too much fun with our glow sticks (4 different colors) making patterns in the dusky night air. After tiring out a bit, we spent some time underneath the stars above the garden in the chill area. We found some mint plants that were mixed in with the grass that emanated a heavenly scent. The moon was so bright that you could see everything with unnatural clarity. In the chill area there was also a black light with two really great paintings that added this neat little rave effect to the garden. It was this juxtaposition of the natural and the unnatural, but it worked somehow and made you feel like Alice in Wonderland. By that time my friends went back to the dance area, but my body was so exhausted that I felt like my bones were poking out of my flesh. I had to go sleep at 4 am, which really bummed me out because I never felt like I truly got enough dancing in. There was a lot of great effects with the music including this big VAVOOM like a jet airplane flying above. It entered the dance area on top of the music, and literally knocked your socks off. I'm still reeling from that. I think it was the dj that came on after Tracy, Josh maybe? The guys at the Smoothie bar were really great. We had an entire back pack of toys and with their black light, we set them up. We even got a free smoothie. Very sweet. I've accumulated a great set of toys, so next time you find me, don't hesitate to ask me for something. (Brendan is convinced that I never left kindergarten!!! Hmmm. Maybe he's right!!) Things are much better when they are shared, and Tribal Future epitomized that saying. Everyone shared everything. I slept from about 4-8 and when I got up, everyone else was going to bed. The morning was beautiful and hot. I hung out with Shawna who wasn't sleeping a wink and had contagious dancing feet. :) Then in the afternoon everyone convened on the lawn which was the only shady place without poison oak!! There was a huge mass of people. We brought out the toys once again and lots of food. Everyone just walked around and hung out in different places, relaxing and sleeping. It was very mellow and special because everyone was still riding this wave of ecstasy (not the drug:) from the night before. This was where you touched base with all of the people you met the night before. Then, we had to go home around 4 pm :( I would have loved to stay, but couldn't. I loved the people that were there. I hope we get to hang out some more!! Sfravers really are amazing. I don't know what it is, but you guys sure have big hearts!! There was tons of poison oak. Where there was shade, there was the evil plant. I'm immune, so I have no problem, but I wonder if anyone else got it bad. I saw people who didn't know what it looked like pitching tents right in the middle of it. I warned quite a few people. The plants were young and not too oily, so maybe it won't be too bad!! Wow, I guess I wrote quite a bit. Didn't mean to!! Have a great weekend, I'll see you again this coming weekend where I plan to get my fill of dancing seeing as I'm not satiated yet!!! Cheers, KaySEE ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 11:39:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA14897; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:39:05 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA14870; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:38:59 -0700 Received: from well (surfpunk@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA24939 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:38:56 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:38:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Cyr Subject: looking for the following persons To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk VMar Wayne Correa Amy Starkey Mike Lasmanis Ethan Miller Claire Solar Rikki Keifer Maureen Garrett Greg and Cindy Mike Clay Theta Blip please e-mail surfpunk@well.com asap re:Burning Man From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 11:44:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA15498; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:44:37 -0700 Received: from mas.atext.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA15490; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:44:35 -0700 Received: from rodan (rodan.atext.com [204.62.245.26]) by mas.atext.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA27142 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:44:03 -0700 Received: from localhost by rodan (5.x/Spike-2.0) id AA00778; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:44:03 -0700 Message-Id: <31B483F3.6F2E@excite.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 11:44:03 -0700 From: John Kawamoto Organization: Excite, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Instant Buy "Hardhop Trypno" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk A good friend of mine recommended the compilation Hardhop Trypno by Moonshine...I was just able to finally find it yesterday. Dang! It'll definitely send shivers up and down through your spinal fluid!!! Peace, John Here's the playlist: eboman - donuts with buddha philadelphia bluntz - i like that uberzone - botz (synthetik) fatboy slim - everybody loves a 303 keoki - caterpillar (stepdisk remix) supersoul - the masterplan zen cowboys - mad world (the crystal method remix) more funky shit - listen the crystal method - blast mr. funkster - massive From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 12:37:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA20892; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:37:48 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA20864; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:37:43 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA06768 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:36:13 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA14588 for SFRaves@hyperreal.com; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:34:04 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: SFRaves@hyperreal.com Subject: Pass The VIBE!!!! Date: 04 Jun 1996 20:33:09 GMT Message-Id: <1436090367.62490936@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk OK, Whos Shooting out that posititve energy???!!!! Cos I just got ZAPPED!!!!!! Peace and Love all you cyber ravers!!!! "dance with me..." Adam Geez and it's only Tuesday!!!!! ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 13:29:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA26546; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:30 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA26535; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:26 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20392; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id NAA12797; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: leftjab cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com, Scott Nelson Subject: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, leftjab wrote: > >Could someone please post all the pertinenet info regarding the > >Underworld, Chem Bros., Orb show. Like presale info and at least a 415 > >number. > > > >Thanks! > > > >love drenalin > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >Scott Nelson - drenalin@salinas.net > >SalinasNet - admin@salinas.net http://www.salinas.net > >The Web Works - webworks@ultima.org > > http://www.ultima.org/WebWorks/ > >hyperreal staff - drenalin@hyperreal.com > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > according to the space children phone #, 415-273-1622, there were severe > reservations by most of the artists about playing back-to-back nights in SF > and LA -- they are worried about everything being just perfect. > Unfortunately, SF is getting the short end, and LA will get everyone on the > 22nd. The Chem. Bros are the only ones still confirmed for Friday june 21, > and a couple of others might be here Monday the 24th. > > solstice weekend could become an ambitious roadtrip . . . > > leftjab > > still in bliss over tribal future > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 14:49:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA05671; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:49:28 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA05661; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:49:25 -0700 Received: from bass.hooked.net (moonpup@bass.hooked.net [206.80.6.41]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA16385 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by bass.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA29634; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606042149.OAA29634@bass.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: HELP-Need Good Net Service Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk NET SFRAVERS, HELP! I need another net provider. Hooked sucks! If you think your net provider is awesome, please tell me who it is. I'm looking for a provider with a good browser (like netscape) and someone who provides Mac access and is cheap and has a reliable connection! I use the net about 10-14 hours/wk, so I was looking to pay no more than $20/mo. --erik I wouldn't mind having my own account so I could get rid of this shit... **IMPORTANT! READ DISCLAIMER** These words were NOT written by moonpup He's in London until late August ...and I'm ERIK. I'll be using his address until then Please address all comments, rebuttals, love or hate letters to me, ERIK or drop me a line... 415-337-6666 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 14:59:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA06694; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:59:03 -0700 Received: from dfw.dfw.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA06673; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:59:00 -0700 Received: by dfw.dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13235; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:57:11 CDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:57:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Aleph One To: Tony Rose Cc: leftjab , sfraves@hyperreal.com, Scott Nelson Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... We (Me, Dan, and a few friends) are going.. but directly to Big Bear. No need to stop in LA. > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > Paul Anthony Rose > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * > Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 15:02:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07121; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:02:32 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07114; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:02:28 -0700 Received: from well (mh2o@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00669 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:02:24 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:02:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Maureen Garrett Subject: Re: Burning Man Mega Theme Camp To: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Additional information: The meeting is at Maureen Garrett's house in San Rafael... 251 C Street. Phone 415-459-5334. Take 101 north, exit Central San Rafael, stay in left lanes. Turn left onto 3rd. Take 3rd down to 'D' Street, turn left onto D. Get into Right Lane. Cross over 2nd, past gas station...make a left onto San Rafael Ave. (mailbox on left) park. Stop sign ahead is 'C'. Make a right, third house from corner. 7:30 PM. (Please bring what you need to be comfortable food and drink wise) My house is also two minutes by car from the San Rafael Bus Terminal. Other Ideas: Medicine Circle/Mandala Design As well as being a mega theme camp...a very strong psychic hit I had is that the dance floor/camp needs to be mapped out like a medicine circle, a mandala...to the four directions, with altars at each direction and sculpture which represents those directions...(all 3-D art especially is welcome), access into and out of the camp via the well marked (with flourscent line marking paint) will make up the cardinal roads leading into the space. Our tents and RV's, etc. will sit beyond the inner and outer circles of the dance floor like a wagon train... >From an airplane this will resemble a crop circle (of sorts)... Think about things you have or know about which can contribute to containing the energy of this space... flourscent cones (like abandoned ones by the side of the highway ;-).... wood for fires, and decorations for the Disco Inferno... Theme Burning Man has a major HELL theme going this year (objects to be torched) so Disco Inferno works rather well.....actually!!!! Ceremony Going into my third year at BM, I see a powerful opportunity for our family. As a collective, we can use the healing power of fire to transform our family, the House Movement, into something even more powerful, strong and deeply rooted underground than it currently is, affecting all life it's roots touch in a positive and permanent beauty way...... Closing: As Jim pointed out, we have a little under three months to organize this camp...and there is much to do.... peace... --Maureen On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Jim Cyr wrote: > > Well, let's see . . . > Burning Man is three months away > I know for certain that a lot of us are planning to go . . . > To the best of my knowledge this year's theme is "A Season in Hell" > so, . . . > I would like to help organize a mega theme camp called "Disco Inferno" > the idea would be to rent and transport a mongo sound system and have it > set up by Thurs afternoon > Various cooperatives could take over the system for blocks of time > and particular parties, or, individual DJs could also block out periods > of time > In my ultra dream Friends and Family, F8, Gateway, Pacific, Ultraviolet, > CCC, Spaz, Organic and others who i have admired over the years would > be involved along with such newcomers as The River and St. John's > Some of my old friends from this list have already heard some of my > fanciful ideas > > First meeting will be tonite at 7:00 in San Rafael > call 415-868-0450 for more info, or email me privately > > Jim Cyr (surfpunk@well.com) > > PS - I'm not REALLY attached to the "Disco Inferno" name, but . . . > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 15:06:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07637; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:06:52 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07620; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:06:48 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA14290; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:06:23 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA25776; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:05:16 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 4 Jun 1996 15:04:15 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re- Origi To: "leftjab" , "Tony Rose" Cc: "Scott Nelson" , sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.3 b1 d5 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF ROAD TRIP! WOO HOO! -------------------------------------- Date: 6/4/96 1:32 PM To: Jason Green* From: Tony Rose How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, leftjab wrote: > >Could someone please post all the pertinenet info regarding the > >Underworld, Chem Bros., Orb show. Like presale info and at least a 415 > >number. > > > >Thanks! > > > >love drenalin > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >Scott Nelson - drenalin@salinas.net > >SalinasNet - admin@salinas.net http://www.salinas.net > >The Web Works - webworks@ultima.org > > http://www.ultima.org/WebWorks/ > >hyperreal staff - drenalin@hyperreal.com > >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > according to the space children phone #, 415-273-1622, there were severe > reservations by most of the artists about playing back-to-back nights in SF > and LA -- they are worried about everything being just perfect. > Unfortunately, SF is getting the short end, and LA will get everyone on the > 22nd. The Chem. Bros are the only ones still confirmed for Friday june 21, > and a couple of others might be here Monday the 24th. > > solstice weekend could become an ambitious roadtrip . . . > > leftjab > > still in bliss over tribal future > > > ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with SMTP;4 Jun 1996 13:31:28 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in2.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA05770; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:32:54 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA26572; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:33 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA26546; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:30 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA26535; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:26 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20392; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id NAA12797; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:29:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: leftjab cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com, Scott Nelson Subject: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 15:39:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA10669; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:39:52 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA10656; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:39:49 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA30250; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id PAA29539; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:39:43 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:39:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: Aleph One cc: leftjab , sfraves@hyperreal.com, Scott Nelson Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Whoops, I dont really need to stop in LA, I would go straight to the place, I have a motorcycle and can bring one other person, but it would be fun if all those going could caravan down... * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Aleph One wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > > > How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... > > We (Me, Dan, and a few friends) are going.. but directly to Big Bear. > No need to stop in LA. > > > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > > Paul Anthony Rose > > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > > TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER > > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * > > > > Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net > http://underground.org/ > KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 > Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 15:49:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA11536; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:49:19 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA11529; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:49:16 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA14396; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:49:00 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA27480; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:47:59 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 4 Jun 1996 15:46:53 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re- Orig To: "Aleph One" , "Tony Rose" Cc: "leftjab" , "Scott Nelson" , sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.3 b1 d5 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>>CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF I am definitely down for a road trip - me and a few others for sure. There is no way I am going to miss this one. Keep me posted... -Jason -------------------------------------- Date: 6/4/96 3:05 PM To: Jason Green* From: Aleph One On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... We (Me, Dan, and a few friends) are going.. but directly to Big Bear. No need to stop in LA. > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > Paul Anthony Rose > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * > Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with SMTP;4 Jun 1996 15:02:29 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in2.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA11574; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:03:53 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA06720; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:59:07 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA06694; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:59:03 -0700 Received: from dfw.dfw.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA06673; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 14:59:00 -0700 Received: by dfw.dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13235; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:57:11 CDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:57:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Aleph One To: Tony Rose Cc: leftjab , sfraves@hyperreal.com, Scott Nelson Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 15:56:46 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA12194; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:56:46 -0700 Received: from elroy.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA12182; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:56:42 -0700 Received: by elroy.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id PAA22998; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:56:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:56:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Uncle Noah X-Sender: ez031733@elroy.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: laminates Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk who's in charge of laminates nowadays? I forgot to get one a long time ago and I want one :) --+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+--- "Uncle" Noah Apodaca - napodaca@ucdavis.edu Student, Disc Jockey, Resident Advisor Listen to the Uncle Noah TV Show The best in Techno and House music Saturdays, 3-5am only on KDVS 90.3fm in Davis From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 15:58:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA12355; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:58:18 -0700 Received: from dfw.dfw.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA12345; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 15:58:15 -0700 Received: by dfw.dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16981; Tue, 4 Jun 96 17:56:36 CDT Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:56:35 -0500 (CDT) From: Aleph One To: Tony Rose Cc: leftjab , sfraves@hyperreal.com, Scott Nelson Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > Whoops, I dont really need to stop in LA, I would go straight to the > place, I have a motorcycle and can bring one other person, but it would be > fun if all those going could caravan down... Well we would be leaving Friday as we rented cabins for the weekend 8) Boy I love camping. Anyway what day are peple planning on leaving. Friday? Saturday? Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 16:09:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA13531; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:09:37 -0700 Received: from hal.mobius.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA13517; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:09:25 -0700 Received: from dbarch-pc by hal.mobius.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0uR5i2-000JGZC; Tue, 4 Jun 96 16:40 PDT Message-ID: <31B4C1FF.30A5@mobius.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 16:08:47 -0700 From: "w. p. risenhoover" Organization: (none) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Green* CC: Aleph One , Tony Rose , leftjab , Scott Nelson , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re- Orig References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk OK. I'm in. I can contribute booze, food, gasoline, but I can't drive. Paul Jason Green* wrote: > > Reply to: RE>>CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF > > I am definitely down for a road trip - me and a few others for sure. There is no way I am going to miss this one. Keep me posted... > -Jason > > -------------------------------------- > Date: 6/4/96 3:05 PM > To: Jason Green* > From: Aleph One > On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > > > How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... > > We (Me, Dan, and a few friends) are going.. but directly to Big Bear. > No need to stop in LA. > > > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > > Paul Anthony Rose > > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > > TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER > > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 16:22:01 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA14716; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:22:01 -0700 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA14702; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:21:58 -0700 Received: (from star@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA17067; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:21:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:21:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Starchild X-Sender: star@orion To: Friends & Family Subject: Fun radio station! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Dear Kiddies, Having been driving for a few weeks now a car that has an AM-only radio, I've become somewhat more familiar with that frequency. And lo and behold, I found an interesting station that I never knew existed. I think it (KDFC) used to have another format, but now apparantly it is called Kid Star "radio just for kids". For anyone who listened to that school lunch menu man and liked it, I suggest you check this out! AM 1220... My favorite is "MJ", the female afternoon DJ. Much love, <<< Starchild >>> From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 18:06:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA24520; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:17 -0700 Received: from elaine38.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA24505; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:12 -0700 Received: (from senator@localhost) by elaine38.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04995; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Ann Thomas To: Larry Ching cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: C.C.C. number? In-Reply-To: <199606041445.HAA08961@netcom7.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I have been to a few of their parties in S.F. and I think it is the Collective for Creative Consciousness. Can anyone confirm? Cassandra On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Larry Ching wrote: > [ to sfraves list ] > > C.C.C. ( Communion Conciousness Collective (?)) Contact Info? > > After attending their great Goa Trance thing on the beach last Friday, > I was wondering if anyone here on SFRaves knows if they have a voicemail > number? I would certainly be interested in attending more of their > events, especially if the events are in the Santa Cruz/San Mateo area > again. > > Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 18:12:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA25057; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:12:15 -0700 Received: from elaine38.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA25050; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:12:12 -0700 Received: (from senator@localhost) by elaine38.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA05315; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:11:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:11:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Ann Thomas To: "w. p. risenhoover" cc: Jason Green* , Aleph One , Tony Rose , leftjab , Scott Nelson , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re- Orig In-Reply-To: <31B4C1FF.30A5@mobius.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I am i the same situation. I might be able to get us a place to crash as well with some prior notice. Cassandra On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, w. p. risenhoover wrote: > OK. I'm in. I can contribute booze, food, gasoline, but I can't drive. > > Paul > > Jason Green* wrote: > > > > Reply to: RE>>CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF > > > > I am definitely down for a road trip - me and a few others for sure. There is no way I am going to miss this one. Keep me posted... > > -Jason > > > > -------------------------------------- > > Date: 6/4/96 3:05 PM > > To: Jason Green* > > From: Aleph One > > On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > > > > > How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... > > > > We (Me, Dan, and a few friends) are going.. but directly to Big Bear. > > No need to stop in LA. > > > > > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > > > Paul Anthony Rose > > > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > > > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > > > TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER > > > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 19:35:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA01937; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 19:35:27 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA01927; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 19:35:22 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id TAA17018; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 19:35:08 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA05928; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 19:34:08 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 4 Jun 1996 19:34:39 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: C.C.C. number? To: "Cassandra Ann Thomas" , "Larry Ching" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 3.0.3 b1 d5 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>>C.C.C. number? >From: Cassandra Ann Thomas: >I have been to a few of their parties in S.F. and I think it is the >Collective for Creative Consciousness. That sounds a lot more like it - I didn't think Martin AKA Communion Clothing was organizing goa trance full moon parties. I WOULD DESPARATELY LIKE THE INFO/CONTACT # FOR THE PEOPLE THAT THREW THAT PARTY - DOES ANYBODY KNOW???? DISCLAIMER: The above is not mean to be "yelled" or "shouted," just in capital letters : ) = ) I posted a question asking if anybody knew who these people were, and how to contact them, but got no response. If anybody has any sort of idea, please, PLEASE post! Thanks!! Infinite positive energy... -Jason -------------------------------------- Date: 6/4/96 6:13 PM To: Jason Green* From: Cassandra Ann Thomas I have been to a few of their parties in S.F. and I think it is the Collective for Creative Consciousness. Can anyone confirm? Cassandra On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, Larry Ching wrote: > [ to sfraves list ] > > C.C.C. ( Communion Conciousness Collective (?)) Contact Info? > > After attending their great Goa Trance thing on the beach last Friday, > I was wondering if anyone here on SFRaves knows if they have a voicemail > number? I would certainly be interested in attending more of their > events, especially if the events are in the Santa Cruz/San Mateo area > again. > > Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com > > ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with SMTP;4 Jun 1996 18:09:05 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in1.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA01816; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:02:11 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA24645; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:07:19 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA24520; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:17 -0700 Received: from elaine38.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA24505; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:12 -0700 Received: (from senator@localhost) by elaine38.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA04995; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:06:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Ann Thomas To: Larry Ching cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: C.C.C. number? In-Reply-To: <199606041445.HAA08961@netcom7.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 4 21:06:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA08593; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:06:44 -0700 Received: from svpal.svpal.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA08577; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:06:38 -0700 Received: (from djtom@localhost) by svpal.svpal.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA03812; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 21:04:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Leichardt Subject: Re: C.C.C. number? To: Jason Green* cc: Cassandra Ann Thomas , Larry Ching , sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk from my understanding they dont have a voice mail, its a word of mouth thing. if they do have a vmail, its probably not a good idea to distribute it on the list, private email would be better - from what i've been told, anyway. i heard it called Consordium (sp?) of Collective Consciousness, BTW. love and energy to ya all, tom From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 04:23:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA27241; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:23:03 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA27191; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:22:54 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net [205.158.3.50]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id DAA18575 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 03:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA22740 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:59:47 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960605100017.006fd824@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 03:00:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "THX1138" Subject: Tribal Future/My Ride Home From Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yo SFRers; Tribal Future my kind a party, nothing but praise, nuff said because I just couldn't possibly fit all the wonderful things about it in a post without pissing you all off because it's too long. So I'm gona share an experience I had driving home the first time from Tribal Future. I ended up giving Tristian a ride up there only to turn around and come ride back down to SF again so I could meet a friend and come up Sunday. Anyway it was just dawn in Mendocino County at the site of Tribal Future where this tale starts. I had just woken up Tristian who fell a sleep in my car, and told him that I had to get going bout 5:45am. I'm one of those people who love to drive, in fact there's only one thing I like doing better than driving, and that's sex. Give me a nice car, a empty mountain road, some great music and it just can't get any better with the exception of the above mentioned. The drive up and back to the site is just beautiful, it normally takes 3 hours or so for most people. Anyway and like I said I had just left Tristian at the site, and proceeded down this most scared of mountain roads. The mountains where still partially shrouded in that early morning mist, making them even more beautiful then they already are. I put on Eric of F-8 fame's tape and started to have a spiritual experience as I proceeded down the mountain in my rental car. I just happen to be driving a fire engine red 1996 5.0 liter Mustang convertible, with the top down and the overdrive off. Well that's when the magic started to happen because the mountain road, smokie, and myself made a pack, that today I owned the mountain road, and that nothing could stop, harm or get in my way. I can't really but into words what happened to me up there on the way home, if you're into driving and trance you already know. It's sorta like the male version of the womyn on the mountain top dressed in white robes blowing in the wind, like that Peppermint Patty commercial. I made it home to Emeryville in 2 hours and 15 minutes needless to say. Thanks Allen, Mark and all the Ameba's for Tribal Future. Peace THX1138 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 04:23:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA27335; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:23:23 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA27276; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:23:07 -0700 Received: from ecf2.puc.edu (amdice@ecf2.puc.edu [165.113.252.2]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA18151 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:57:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from amdice@localhost) by ecf2.puc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA15905; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:39:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:39:40 -0700 (PDT) From: tinsau To: George Feil cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: F-8 review In-Reply-To: <199606032117.OAA11528@hp700.unrrts.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, George Feil wrote: > Thanks to everyone on the net who suggested I attend Frequency-8 on > Saturday. To say I wasn't disappointed is a gross understatement... > > Environment: fabulous! The weather was perfect -- calm air, clear > skies, and a very bright, full moon, gave the mountains and ocean an > eerie glow. The hike to the location was very magical and trippy, with > the eerie lime-green glow sticks guiding the way, the babbling brook > to the side, and the lush flora encroaching on the trail. The > tree-canopied location where the party was, smack against a cliff, was > wonderful (save the nettles on the side -- ouch!). Exactly, how I found the location, wonderful and a nice link with nature. And the morning found those of us left surrounding by all the greens and the pale blue sky above. Very calming and peaceful. > > Music: totally chakra-stimulating! I started off getting down to the > trance, guided by Myster-E. Then, just as the sun was beginning to > influence the sky again, I got my second wind, and fell into the > influence of the beat yet again. [Who was the last dj spinning that > morning?] > I think Jess described the music perfectly. I especially loved MARS's set of beautiful music-one moment spacey then pounding my body mercilessly. Thoroughly mental music. I just hope I can find him at Love Parade in Berlin this summer. > Vibe: warm and loving. Although I arrived by myself, with a friend > arriving from SJ later in the night, I didn't feel at all alone. Most > everybody was sharing smiles and treats. I met a couple of > first-timers from SF, and several other folks from Sac'to. I also got > to meet Jess, Austin, and MARS (who, it turns out, was the one who sold > me the tix at the store). I was surprised at the small ratio of > dancers to chillers, but I didn't mind -- there was plenty of energy > in the cozy dance space to go 'round. Glad to have met you, as well as ionX, jess, and through trailhead transport Adam. Also saw Sarah, Paul, their friends, and Eric (resting at the time) > > All in all, it was a fabulous first time at a F-8 event. I headed back > to the city feeling totally connected with the universe, and shared a > big smile with the GG troll... > > -G- > > > Austin Tinsau S.F. Born and Raved! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 04:29:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA28619; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:29:20 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA28602; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:29:15 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net (dwarzau@hornet.ns.net [204.75.146.22]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA12893 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:56:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id XAA10682; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:38:39 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:38:38 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Basics 4 Year/Rampant Records Tour Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Finally, a good party here in SF! Doran hasn't been up here in a while, and I'm really looking forward to checking him out... Anyone else going? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 04:30:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA28744; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:30:10 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA28722; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:30:04 -0700 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net (norway-f.it.earthlink.net [206.85.92.49]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA12897 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:57:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [153.37.82.80] (pool016.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.80]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA12256 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 02:36:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:38:41 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: Bonny Dune was Re: What was I thinkin' (PLASTIK REV) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk One more thing I might add that REALLY disappointed me... The morning after the Plastik party I went with some friends to breakfast and then we cruzed up the coast to Bonny Dunes to kick it. A few people I know said they were going up there so I thought it would be nice to hang out at the beach after the party. Well when i got there - there were about 20 -30 people up by the RR tracks with a Nitrus tank having a little Nitrus party. Nitrus for one discusts me (for some reason) and many people were gettin' drunk and fryin' as well. One big drug gathering with no respect for other people who wanted to enjoy the day and the beach. Some one had taged the RR ties and some rocks, ballons were scattered everywhere, empty beer bottles smashed against the tracks. I say a man with his 8 yr. old son walk up an by to the beach and I thought to myself what an image for a little boy to see =3D = A bunch of kids gettin' fucked up and not giving a fuck about their surroundings or the people that visit this beautyful place. I bitched at some guys by the tank to see if they could take it else where and they just gave me a Fuck you attitude. I left. I am really sorry what happened there and couldn't stand to think these are the type of people I had just partied with that night - some were my friends. I need new friends. I can't wait to move to San Luis Obisbo and start a new. Hopefully this summer I can met some of you and possible creat a summer friendship with some... Saddend, . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 04:43:11 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA29319; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:32:33 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA29235; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:32:17 -0700 Received: from saclink1.csus.edu (saclink1.csus.edu [130.86.82.1]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA12344 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by saclink1.csus.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA068993006; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:36:46 -0700 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:36:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy R Starkey Subject: another TF review To: sfraves Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Can you stand another? I'll make it short and sweet. Put it this way: I couldn't have asked for a better event to take my freshly arrived friend from London to. I certainly was not expecting the Paradise garden to spend endless hours in. Or non stop WONDERFUL music.. Or non stop sweet vibe. Tis a weekend I shall never forget, or anyone else who went, for that matter. Only disappointment was only meeting *one* new sfraver. (Erik) Was pleased to see and talk to the other sfravers who I know and love. I'll be smiling for a good long time... love, Amy --------------- | _ ,/| | | '\`o O' | | =(_^_)= | Amy Starkey | |U| | sac41673@saclink1.csus.edu | | | | --------------- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 04:47:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA29370; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:32:43 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA29324; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 04:32:34 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com (mh1.well.com [206.15.64.22]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id WAA12140 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:38:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [206.15.64.147] (sf-tty48-ppp.well.com [206.15.64.147]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA28564 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:17:48 -0700 X-Sender: leftjab@mail.well.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:23:34 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: leftjab@well.com (leftjab) Subject: the tribal future is now Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk the whole thing just so exceeded my expectations . . . it was such a beautiful eco-friendly extended rave family village, eating, dancing, sleeping, showering, hot tubbing, swimming, raving, loving & living together i smiled today when i saw the dust still on my car from the miles of "dirt" (rocks & dust) roads . . . i enjoyed the zen of driving 15 m.p.h. in the tracks of the drivers who preceded you to avoid the biggest rocks . . . it felt so far away from anyone else, and we were literally "off the grid." Someone told me solar generators were running the turntables for most of the afternoons! the full-moonlight cast this bluish haze . . . the night air was so comfortable and fresh . . . nothing like dancing much of the night and then hot tubbing at 6 am . . . too bad the tub next to the turntables (!) was too hot for humankind, but the third tub near the ambient area was perfect . . . after the first long stretch it was great to cool off on the edge of the tub, get cool and get back into the tub, get hot and sit on the edge, repeat until liquid . . . great moments in the chill area, sleeping in the shade late sunday morning with everyone sprawled around, and some great hammock time saturday afternoon as well and hanging out in the eel river, getting refreshed for the inevitable drive home, and the huge blood-red moon rising over the east bay . . . there are so many of you i connected with . . . i can't wait to see you again knowing what we did this past weekend mark & uncle walter & everyone else -- you've created a sacred space, and I hope we treated it kindly leftjab From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 07:21:49 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA13437; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:21:49 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA13428; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:21:46 -0700 Received: from [205.231.222.75] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:21:38 -0700 X-Sender: knucklehead@mail.domain.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: knucklehead@club.net ("Knucklehead") Subject: Fun at TF w/ broken ribs Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 07:21:38 -0700 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well all I can say about Tribal Future is I don't think the smile left my face. I really wasn't in the mood Friday to go to TF, after my truck getting stolen, but then returned I also unknowingly broken my ribs. When I went to my moms house to get ready to pickup my truck I jump the side fence and landed pretty good on my ribs. I thought they were just browsed bad and went on my way. I went to TF and every now and then fell alittle pain when I breathed or coughed or lied on my stomach. All the fun I had at TF kept my mind mostly away from it. I went to the doctors on Tuesday and found out the were broken. Anyway, I'm glad I went to TF I had one of the best times in a long time. Thanks to the Ameba's and everyone else that helped out and was there to make this event one of the best. Even those cows in the road that we had to wait for in order to drive on, that was funny waiting as they crossed the road and some stopping to just look right at you. The funniest thing was when I went to say something to someone and look right at them and just started laughing, nothing would come out of my mouth but a laugh. I really can't remember what was so funny, if in fact I was laughing at something funny or just laughing, I don't know which. The worst thing that happened was leaving after it was all over. A part of me wishes I could live like that forever and not worry about anything. Dam, what a weekend! Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 08:52:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA22040; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:52:15 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA22033; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:52:12 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.125] (Cust61.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.125]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA24622; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:52:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199606051552.IAA24622@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:53:50 -0800 To: aguevara@compattic.com From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Re: Pass The VIBE!!!! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >OK, Whos Shooting out that posititve energy???!!!! > > >Cos I just got ZAPPED!!!!!! > Oooo!! Cought in the act... It was me... I admit it.. Crunchman From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 08:52:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA22080; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:52:24 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA22056; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:52:19 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.125] (Cust61.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.125]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA24643; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 08:52:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199606051552.IAA24643@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:53:56 -0800 To: Tony Rose From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Re: CARAVAN?...was Re: Origin '96 downscaled severely in SF Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >How about a caravan of sfravers down to la... > Yay!! When do we go... Crunchman From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 09:07:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA23842; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:07:56 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA23831; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:07:52 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA15411 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:06:22 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id JAA17449 for Sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:04:03 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: Sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Thanks for the sites Date: 05 Jun 1996 16:53:34 GMT Message-Id: <3289116638.66929706@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Thanks to the ones who responded to my Really really cool website request. Found some nice places (like 5th world and such). But, Im still looking for any nifty sites so if there's anyone else out there with a cool website, let me know!!! "Dance with me..." Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 09:41:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA26984; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:41:45 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA26947; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:41:39 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id JAA174963 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:41:32 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Wednesday Night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Okay, happy campers, time for another mid-week party! I've heard calls for Jackin the Box, Wish, and Come*Unity, with the consensus tending toward C*U.... Luv, 8-D paul P-8 (a happy camper truly blinded to reality) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 10:15:43 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA00988; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:15:43 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA00980; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:15:38 -0700 Received: (from mist@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA27237; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:15:34 -0700 (PDT) From: JOSHUA MICHAEL ABERANT X-Sender: mist@pluto To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: F8 adventure Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hey kiddos- F8 was incredible!!!! and i have some crazy pictures to prove it. sunday morning my roomate asked me how the party was. this made me realize that the night was more than just a party - it was fantastic adventure. i will never forget the sun rising and looking around only to realize that the area was even more beautiful then we ever imagined. stomping and dancin' through the stream with jeff. climbing the BEAUTIFUL cliff. wow!!!! what a night. looking very forward to the nextr f8 party. thank so much f8!!! thanx also to paul and diana for the rides! you guys rule!!!! diana- if you want copies of the pictures email me and let me know. :)~ luv sarah ps ive been in toronto for only 3 days now and i already miss all you guys. ahhhhhhh!! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 10:43:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA03712; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:43:07 -0700 Received: from xinet.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03701; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:43:04 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora by xinet.COM via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA08295; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:42:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:42:44 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Tony Rotundo Subject: In a nut shell... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk THEY DIDN'T PLAY THE CHICKEN DANCE!! :^) Weather was great, relaxed a bit, thought of you all, howled at the moon, etc... Details in person. Peace! Tone From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 10:49:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA04271; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:49:33 -0700 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA04263; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:49:30 -0700 From: Begroovy@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA16638 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:48:57 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 13:48:57 -0400 Message-ID: <960605134854_549908094@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Tribal Future!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk What a blast!!!! Mucho Thanx to the Ameba Clan and everybody who made this trip happen!!! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 14:26:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA00724; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:26:07 -0700 Received: from arl-img-5.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA00717; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:26:03 -0700 Received: by arl-img-5.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id RAA04247; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 17:25:28 -0400 Date: 05 Jun 96 17:24:04 EDT From: Leslie Ayres <71165.755@CompuServe.COM> To: "sfraves@hyperreal.com" Subject: Tribal Future - Beyond Beyond Message-ID: <960605212403_71165.755_GHL150-3@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I've been to massive raves in warehouses, crowded clubs, daytime and nighttime beach parties, outdoor moon parties, small house parties, trance parties, jungle parties, good parties, bad parties. But I've never been to heaven before. And this weekend, we were given heaven on earth as the tribe gathered to celebrate all that we love -- the music, the earth, and each other. What more could we possibly want? Mark Ameba on the first night, soaking alone naked in the wood-stoked hot tub near the turntables, having just dipped his amazing birds-nest hat in the steaming water and put it on the ledge, and the steam was rising off the water in the tub, with a separate chimney of steam coming off of his hat. Erik, after 2am on Friday, when the music stopped, staying there and drumming with the sounds of the forest until he was tired enough to sleep. Allen, on Saturday, walking down from the mud baths, naked and covered with mud like a creature from another world, standing on the rise above the dance area watching us as we watched him. (The man is master of wardrobe, even when he isn't wearing any clothes.) Lounging on the terraced grassy gardens, baking even though we were under the shade of the redwoods, wishing for a frozen margarita, and having Dave walk up with a cooler of cold, cold, icy Tequate beers to share. Napping late Saturday afternoon, and waking to find the village of tents had sprung up around me while I slept. Watching Andrew show the littlest ones how to feed what looked like catfood to the fish in the garden's brick trellised fish pond, and suddenly the huge trout go into feeding frenzy, churning the water, until it quieted to a smooth surface again. A naked boy and girl, about four years old, walking in the tiered cultivated gardens, sharing flowers and talking softly, it was the Garden of Eden. Overhearing someone ask "have you seen a tent with a metallic whirly-gig on it? I'm looking for Leslie Ayres" and I'm sitting right next to him -- Hi Lee! Nightfall Saturday, the anticipation of the full-force tribal gathering, with the full moon rising above the mountain, shining down between a frame of redwoods on us. Brendan, dancing smoothly, smiling, gliding in the dark on the grassy flat dance area, with swirling green glowsticks leaving trails in the dark. The firedance woman, twirling blazing fireballs on long ropes in intricate designs. Tim (knucklehead), sore ribs or not, standing in the middle of the dance area, not moving, with amazement on his face. Vince, arriving in his full regalia with skirt and blue metallic shirt, then letting Ed wear his silver rubberized op-art 2-foot-tall stovepipe hat, with me adding the condition that Ed had to dance up to the front of the dance area, smiling at everyone along the way, dance in front of the dj, then come back, making sure to look at everyone, because he is wearing the "vibe" hat -- and he loved it so much we passed it onto several other people to have their turn. Going to catch a nap early Sunday morning, and the mountain is vibrating, throbbing like it's breathing or its heart is beating, as the bass echoes upward to the sky but also downward into the earth. I thought we were having an earthquake, I actually got up to look outside my tent. Saying goodbye on Sunday to those who had to leave, and watching new faces appear from down the lane, coming for the full moon party. Flush toilets, yes really, set on wooden platforms surrounded by lattice and bamboo screens, open to the trees up above (yep, that's really the lap of luxury). Polywog in the early light Monday, playing Patsy Cline and any damn thing she felt like, and everyone appreciating they were listening to someone who hears music in an entirely different way and is willing to show us how. Wayne and Marcy, naked in the Eel River, sitting wrapped together on a rock kissing, showing us that love is real, and forgetting that they had asked me to take their picture as they forgot anyone else is there (that will be one awesome photo). I want to thank all of my friends, old and new, for being part of that amazing three days with me -- even those who went to F-8, because we felt your presence too -- At least I know I have had one weekend in ShangriLa. We are truly blessed. Leslie : ) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 18:19:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA22059; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:19:20 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA22046; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:19:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id SAA144511 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:19:09 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:19:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: come*unity Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Looks like our destination is come*unity tonight (at 1015 folsom).. still working on some recalcitrant souls, but at least Shawna and I will be there. I'll try to find my laminate around here somewhere.... smiles, paul From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 18:43:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA24537; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:43:38 -0700 Received: from saclink1.csus.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA24528; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:43:35 -0700 Received: by saclink1.csus.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA144235409; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:43:29 -0700 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 18:43:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy R Starkey Subject: I'm @ Come*Unity 2! To: sfraves Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Since I never get to go to these events that happen during the week and i am spending this entire week in this beautiful city, I will be going to CU. For those sfravers I have not met yet (an increasing # of you at that) look for me! I'll be wearing a sleeveless white funky shirt with green trim and jeans. I've long brown hair and stand about 5'6", so come up and say hi and i sill introduce you to my friend from London, too. (who also had a BLAST at Tribal Future!) Didn't think I would ever show my face at 1015 again, but CU isn't just a club. :) love, Amy --------------- | _ ,/| | | '\`o O' | | =(_^_)= | Amy Starkey | |U| | sac41673@saclink1.csus.edu | | | | --------------- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 19:41:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA29196; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 19:41:25 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA29183; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 19:41:21 -0700 From: Thnkblnd@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA26506; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:40:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:40:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960605224047_211441413@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: pabrams@itsa.ucsf.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: come*unity - cya there... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 96-06-05 21:26:12 EDT, pabrams@itsa.ucsf.EDU (Paul Abramson) writes: >Looks like our destination is come*unity tonight (at 1015 folsom).. still >working on some recalcitrant souls, but at least Shawna and I will be >there. I'll try to find my laminate around here somewhere.... I'll be there - look for me! I'll be wearing my HOSTESS t-shirt. cya, Rebecca From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 5 20:05:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA01764; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:05:05 -0700 Received: from mail-e2b-service.gnn.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA01747; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 20:05:01 -0700 Received: from 43-160.client.gnn.com. (51-237.client.gnn.com [205.188.51.237]) by mail-e2b-service.gnn.com (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA29895 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:04:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199606060304.XAA29895@mail-e2b-service.gnn.com> X-Mailer: GNNmessenger 1.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 18:07:50 From: ravebabe@gnn.com (Carol Saldana) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: F8 adventure Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Mist wrote: looking very forward to the nextr f8 party. I'd love to know as well!! My B-Day is next Fri (6/14) and boy would I love to celebrate with my love Xris (Chris)! We have yet to do F-8 together. Also, does anyone have any news about any Friends and Family dates? One more thing, this goes out to J. Cyr: Jim, are you referring to the rave camp as being the Disco Inferno? Chris and I would love to know how the meeting went? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 01:14:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA28506; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 01:14:20 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA28429; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 01:14:13 -0700 From: polo@eden.com Received: from [206.81.226.196] (net-7-196.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.196]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id DAA23935 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 03:14:05 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 03:19:13 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: SF Here I Come!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ok, kids, I'm leaving tomorrow from Austin to visit you all in SF! I'll be at Basics on Saturday night and (hopefully) Spundae as well. I'll be the guy with the Texas Raves lamintae around my neck and will 'prolly be wearing either a Texas Raves t-shirt or a Team Love/MDMA/X t-shirt. Be sure to say "Hi"!!! Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 09:56:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA20108; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:56:40 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA20088; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:56:29 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA27179; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:55:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:55:56 -0400 Message-ID: <960606125556_129212249@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: aleph1@dfw.net cc: jason_green*@quickmail.apple.com (jasongreen*), aleph1@dfw.net (alephone), trose@violet.berkeley.edu (tonyrose), leftjab@well.com (leftjab), drenalin@lettuce.salinas.net (scottnelson), sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Care-a-van Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Greetins, I'm getting in a little late on the conversation, where did you rent these cabins?, $?, etc. I would really like to go but not sure if I'll be able to drive. Anyone have room for 1 happy shiney person? I can contribute $, camping stuff, food, smiles, etc. Steveo From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 10:21:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA22932; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:21:44 -0700 Received: from dfw.dfw.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA22918; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:21:38 -0700 Received: by dfw.dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01707; Thu, 6 Jun 96 12:19:47 CDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:19:46 -0500 (CDT) From: Aleph One To: SteveOSac@aol.com Cc: jasongreen* , tonyrose , leftjab , scottnelson , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Care-a-van In-Reply-To: <960606125556_129212249@emout08.mail.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hmm I didnt to the renting. So for more information post to socal-raves@ucsd.edu, KC or someone will give you the number to call to rent a cabin. Already the socal folks have a corner of town with about 5-7 cabins rented. I'am sure they would be happy to have some sfraves neighbors. On Thu, 6 Jun 1996 SteveOSac@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:55:56 -0400 > From: SteveOSac@aol.com > To: aleph1@dfw.net > Cc: jasongreen* , > alephone , tonyrose , > leftjab , > scottnelson , sfraves@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: Care-a-van > > Greetins, > I'm getting in a little late on the conversation, where did you rent these > cabins?, $?, etc. I would really like to go but not sure if I'll be able to > drive. Anyone have room for 1 happy shiney person? I can contribute $, > camping stuff, food, smiles, etc. > Steveo > Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 10:23:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA23175; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:23:47 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA23168; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:23:44 -0700 Received: from well (surfpunk@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA06463 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:23:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 10:23:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Cyr Subject: Disco Inferno To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk well, let's see first of all the "Disco Inferno" name is meant to be coy and ironic in keeping with Burning Man's stated theme of "A Season in Hell" the basic idea is to rent and transport a massive sound system with all the whistles and bells (generator, lights, satellite hook-ups, altars, things to burn, mirror ball) and have it set up and ready to go by Weds. August 28th (the night of the Full Moon) we would like for this to be a cooperative venture involving Friends and Family, Pacific, Spaz, F8, CCC, Gateway, Ultraviolet, St. John's, The River and Section 23 (from Manchester UK) - And be open to others who are into this whole scene for the love of whatever music they're into and not into profit-mongering the estimate is that this would cost 3 to 5 thousand dollars to pull off properly since we are all essentially poor, the idea would be for the above listed to collaborate on a couple of outdoor parties as fund raisers (with a suggested $5 donation) prior to Burning Man and a post Burning Man event on the Saturday following (as a reunion and final fundraiser if necessary) - this should raise the necessary funds i know that some of the above listed collectives own their own sound system, but i think it would be fun to have a really great LOUD system and not wreck havoc on any collective's smaller system The parties would start at sunset on Wednesday with an opening ritual by The River and then perhaps the Gateway Full Moon Collective would take over - each night could be one or two of the above listed groups collaborating on something with a fully organized list of who plays when throughout the weekend There would be something in this mega-camp every night from 9pm to 9am All of the equipment would be set on pallets and enclosed in tents in the event of sudden weather changes - top priority would be on protecting the equipment so that each collective gets a fair opportunity to put on a version of what they like to do - from old school to goa with a thread of ceremonial intent throughout The suggestion for the first fund raiser would be July 3rd. I am not entirely naive - though that is debateable - I realize that this will require the endorsement and participation of most of the listed cooperatives along with the endorsement and participation of most people on sfraves Disco Inferno (ideally) would be set up a couple of miles east of the Man with the speakers pointed east - the idea would be to keep the area east of the dance space totally clear of cars and campsites so that each sunrise could be fully experienced by the dancers, with camping, cars and porta potties set up to the west, south or north of the dance space I'd like as much input on this as possible and also like to have the next meeting next wednesday in either San Francisco or the south bay Feedback? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 11:46:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA01918; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:46:53 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA01912; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:46:50 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id LAA06932; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:46:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:46:48 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Whad up? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey guys and gals, What the heck is going on? The list is very low volume. That is soooo strange. The only other time I've seen that is during Burning Man. I only had about 12 messages between yesterday and today. I'm not complaining or anything :) I was just wondering why everyone is so quiet? I'm in awe; sfravers *without* anything to say. Damn!! :) Hey, I have a neat topic, maybe a bit strange, but here goes.. Saturday night at Tribal Future my friends and I started talking about the first music we can remember hearing that piqued our interest. Mine was "Nazareth, Hair of the Dog" I was in Elementary school and this is the first music I remember listening to. I remember re-playing track one on the 8 track cassette over and over again covertly when my big sis was gone!!! :) :) What's yours? Nostalgia...hmmm cheers, KaySEE ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 12:35:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA06757; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:35:36 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA06750; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:35:33 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA31237 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Basics Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Methinks I'll be heading to Basics... who else? -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 12:41:43 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA07452; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:41:43 -0700 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA07443; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:41:37 -0700 Received: by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id MAA07423; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:41:05 -0700 Received: from zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM by Ebay.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA16762; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:41:02 -0700 Received: by zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05512; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:42:33 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:42:33 -0700 From: Nicole.Glover@Ebay.Sun.COM (Nikki Glover) Message-Id: <9606061942.AA05512@zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Basics X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, I am new to sfraves but I've been into parties for awhile. Can someone give me the info. on basics this weekend. Thanx~ :0) nikki From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 12:48:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA08407; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:48:53 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA08401; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:48:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id MAA48408 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:48:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:48:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson Reply-To: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@Hyperreal.com Subject: C*U last night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@Hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Come*unity was a whole lotta fun last night... All of the things that could have been negatives (sometimes-slow untrancey music, club atmosphere, etc.) somehow actually added something to my experience.. It was also fun to see lots of sfravers (even some I hadn't met before!) and to be transported by such a huge, grooving crowd (especially for a wednesday night). Just what I needed!! Thanks to Shawna for her (always) good company!! Now, it's time to get down to some serious learning. See y'all! 8-D Paul P-8 "this is your brain" "this is your brain on acetylcholinesterase inhibitors..... " "any questions?" From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:18:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA11387; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:18:02 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11368; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:17:58 -0700 Received: from si.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id NAA02166; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:17:55 -0700 Received: by si.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id NAA02383; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:17:54 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jessica Robin Berkson Subject: my first music experience.. To: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk embarrassing as it is, I remember going crazy over Wham! in about the 5th grade....(Wake me up before you go go/ don't leave me hanging on goin' solo).........and my first three vinyls were (in order) Madonna, cindi Lauper and Run DMC....What can I say...I was the product of the suburbs! -jessica From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:21:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA11726; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:21:51 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11709; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:21:47 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA17353 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:21:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id NAA26137; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:21:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:21:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk OK, I am sucked in...my first favorite song was when I was in fourth grade...casey casem used to be so cool!...;)...but it was mr. Roboto by styx...I still think it would make a good rave anthem! * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Jessica Robin Berkson wrote: > embarrassing as it is, I remember going crazy over Wham! in about the 5th > grade....(Wake me up before you go go/ don't leave me hanging > on goin' solo).........and my first three vinyls were (in order) Madonna, > cindi Lauper and Run DMC....What can I say...I was the product of the suburbs! > > -jessica > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:32:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA12847; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:32:24 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA12841; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:32:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfogler@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id NAA164823 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:32:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: jess To: sfraves Subject: first music experience Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Other than classical music which I was weaned on and which will remain a most enduring passion, the following two first music experiences stand out: 1. Rubber Soul by the Beatles (for all you young'uns who don't remember) Favorite track: "I'm looking through you, where did you go. I thought I knew you, what did I know".....etc... 2. the HAIR soundtrack - we had a two album set, one record was red and the other one was green - the green one had a huge crack in it but if you lined the edges up just right it would still play! "once upon-a-looking for Donna, girl, she was a sixteen year-old virgin"....etc.... Great topic KaySee Ranting and Raving ** jess ** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:37:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA13405; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:37:56 -0700 Received: from lynx.dac.neu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA13396; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:37:53 -0700 Received: (from ammartin@localhost) by lynx.dac.neu.edu (Noygdb!) id QAA00586 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:37:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Amy Martin Message-Id: <199606062037.QAA00586@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Subject: basics To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:37:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hi, could anyone tell em what the line-up is for this party? thanks a bunch! -amy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:47:21 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA14235; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:47:21 -0700 Received: from nature.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA14228; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:47:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (lawson@localhost) by nature.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00031; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Lawson" To: Amy Martin cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: basics In-Reply-To: <199606062037.QAA00586@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Amy Martin wrote: > hi, > > could anyone tell em what the line-up is for this party? > > thanks a bunch! > > -amy > I don't have the flyer in front of me, but I believe it is Garth, Tony, Josh, Doc Martin, Doran, and Brownie. The only one I'm not sure about is Josh.... It should be a great party. Anyone else hear any rumors about possible locations (in the city, east Bay etc.?) smlies Andrew From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:48:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA14333; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:48:16 -0700 Received: from dons.ac.usfca.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA14323; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:48:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199606062048.NAA14323@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: first music experience To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: lanima00 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 316 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hello all- just so you know, my brothers were playing peter gabriel when i was born, and i have been listening to him ever since. i was rather suprised when i found out that not all people enjoyed his music. glad to enter into the conversation of a not-normally quiet list! peace, love, and good music- matt l From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:57:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA15183; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:15 -0700 Received: from elaine17.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15172; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:12 -0700 Received: (from senator@localhost) by elaine17.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id NAA24678; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Ann Thomas To: Tony Rose cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Mine I had to say was a song that I still do not know the name or who sang it but I must say have only heard it sampled a million times since then . .. . "When I hear music it makes me dance!" Along with Madonna and Prince and Culture club, david Bowie (my first albums) Cassandra P.S. Who is going to Basics? ANyone from SOuth Bay? On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Tony Rose wrote: > OK, I am sucked in...my first favorite song was when I was in fourth > grade...casey casem used to be so cool!...;)...but it was mr. Roboto by > styx...I still think it would make a good rave anthem! > > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > Paul Anthony Rose > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * > > On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Jessica Robin Berkson wrote: > > > embarrassing as it is, I remember going crazy over Wham! in about the 5th > > grade....(Wake me up before you go go/ don't leave me hanging > > on goin' solo).........and my first three vinyls were (in order) Madonna, > > cindi Lauper and Run DMC....What can I say...I was the product of the suburbs! > > > > -jessica > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:57:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA15223; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:24 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15204; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:19 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA14404; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Whad up? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:29:51 -0700 (PDT) From: kcroy To: KaySEE Subject: Re: Whad up? > What the heck is going on? The list is very low volume. That is soooo > strange. The only other time I've seen that is during Burning Man. I Its hot. too hot to type :) actually, just been so busy recovering from lost work time from TF, havent even been reading the list. > > Saturday night at Tribal Future my friends and I started talking about > the first music we can remember hearing that piqued our interest. Mine > was "Nazareth, Hair of the Dog" I was in Elementary school and this is hmm... Maybe a song called Rhinestone Cowboy. I think thats the first musical memory I have. Definately before I remember school of any sort. so Pre Pre school :) Ohh.. not sure when the Sesame Street songs became emblazened on my psyche. Maybe they come first. take care KcROY oh. forgot to cc sfraves - foreward this for me, will ya? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 13:59:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA15621; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:59:13 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15615; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:59:09 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-120.apple.com [17.128.100.120]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id NAA28128; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:59:46 -0700 Received: from [17.130.22.217] (kip-2-217.apple.com [17.130.22.217]) by scv2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id NAA05350; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 13:59:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199606062059.NAA05350@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: basics Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 13:59:50 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "Andrew B. Lawson" , "Amy Martin" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Anyone else hear any rumors about >possible locations (in the city, east Bay etc.?) I heard possibly at the Oakland "Gathering" warehouse. -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 14:04:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA16216; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:04:25 -0700 Received: from elroy.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA16204; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:04:19 -0700 Received: by elroy.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id OAA00986; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:03:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Uncle Noah X-Sender: ez031733@elroy.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: RE: first music experience... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I think my first vinyls were Kraftwerk and Art of Noise.... :) --+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+--- "Uncle" Noah Apodaca - napodaca@ucdavis.edu Student, Disc Jockey, Resident Advisor Listen to the Uncle Noah TV Show The best in Techno and House music Saturdays, 3-5am only on KDVS 90.3fm in Davis From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 14:25:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA18426; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:25:57 -0700 Received: from chip.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA18415; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:25:52 -0700 Received: by chip.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id OAA23201; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:25:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:25:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Killing Time X-Sender: ez006498@chip.ucdavis.edu To: jess cc: sfraves Subject: Re: first music experience In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk My first memories of music are from catholic church. I don't know what to make of that, but I still hum incessant choir songs on occasion. musically challenged, -alberT From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 14:27:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA18573; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:27:12 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA18557; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:27:07 -0700 Received: from v-site by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id OAA03351; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:26:57 -0700 Message-ID: <31B74D11.4FB6@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 14:26:41 -0700 From: ameba Organization: ameba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: markie at EMI this Thurs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Emi's is a Korean / party jazz place in Santa Cruz famous for fun have some kim chi and listen to MARKIE for a buck tonight 408.427.5688 -- salutations, al@ameba PS thanks all for the Phat reviews WALTER loved having you " a good bunch of people" (his words) _____________________________________ ameba 1732 haight street sf ca 94117 mailto:ameba@netcom.com http://www.ameba.com | \ 415.750.9368 | \ ===================================== | / | / From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 14:28:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAB18680; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:28:50 -0700 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA18672; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:28:47 -0700 From: TBOBSC@tevm2.nsc.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id OAA05827 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:31:43 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005751; Thu Jun 6 14:31:36 1996 Received: from tevm2.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA11909 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 6 Jun 96 14:28:27 -0700 Message-Id: <9606062128.AA11909@nsc.nsc.com> Received: from TEVM2 by tevm2.nsc.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3736; Thu, 06 Jun 96 14:28:50 PDT Date: Thu, 06 Jun 96 14:28:49 PDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience.. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk FROM: Robert Brown *** Resending note of 06/06/96 13:21 SUBJECT: Re: my first music experience.. >OK, I am sucked in...my first favorite song was when I was in fourth >grade...casey casem used to be so cool!...;)...but it was mr. Roboto by >styx...I still think it would make a good rave anthem! Actually this Styx concert tour was my very first concert that I went to with my best friend! Nostalgia indeed... say them in Boise of all places. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 15:24:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA23379; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:24:19 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA23370; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:24:14 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA21537; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:24:03 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:24:03 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Whad up? (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:01:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael E. Clay To: KaySEE Subject: Re: Whad up? Without going back to the "first" music I recall hearding .... I recall when I was about 12, standing at some record bins at the air base BX and seeing these 45's by this new group, I'd never heard of... I asked an older woman ( but now I wonder what "older" meant to me then ) what they were like and she answered that they were "pretty good for a rock & roll group"... so I bought 2 of the 45's took them home and listened away... Yea this stuff was pretty good after all... the records: I Want to Hold Your Hand / I Saw Her Standing There Twist & Shout/??? Not sure of exact flip side... Just another of us sleepers, Mike PS Be thankful for short rests... we'll start the mailbox stuffing later... meclay@netcom.com | Alone & ecstatic Mike Clay (415)572-8971 | A young rainbow learns to levitate. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 15:57:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA26110; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:57:23 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA26103; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:57:20 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA10508 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:57:18 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby (tgrigsby.us.dhl.com [199.41.137.104]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10441 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:56:48 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:56:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199606062256.PAA10441@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: first music experience X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk First favorite song? Hard to remember that far back... "Ho Ho Ho, It's Magic". I was 12. I don't suppose anyone knows who the heck sang that one? S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 16:01:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA26633; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:01:27 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA26583; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:01:22 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA10648; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:58:42 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby (tgrigsby.us.dhl.com [199.41.137.104]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA10477; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:56:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:56:51 -0700 Message-Id: <199606062256.PAA10477@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com, mlussier@us.dhl.com, pblair@best.com, DMWILLIA@us.oracle.com, amyp@yosemite.examen.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: NRR -- a little humor I came across... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk *File Description: Berkeley California* "Berkeley California" (Sung to the tune "Hotel California" by the Eagles) In a dark dim machine room Cool A/C in my hair Warm smell of silicon Rising up through the air Up ahead in the distance I saw a Solarian(tm) light My kernel grew heavy, and my disk grew slim I had to halt(8) for the night The backup spun in the tape drive I heard a terminal bell And I was thinking to myself This could be BSD or USL Then they started a lawsuit And they showed me the way There were salesmen down the corridor I thought I heard them say Welcome to Berkeley California Such a lovely place Such a lovely place (backgrounded) Such a lovely trace(1) Plenty of jobs at Berkeley California Any time of year Any time of year (backgrounded) You can find one here You can find one here Their code was definately twisted But they've got the stock market trends They've got a lot of pretty, pretty lawyers That they call friends How they dance in the courtroom See BSDI sweat Some sue to remember Some sue to forget So I called up Kernighan Please bring me ctime(3) He said We haven't had that tm_year since 1969 And still those functions are calling from far away Wake up Jobs in the middle of the night Just to hear them say Welcome to Berkeley California Such a lovely Place Such a lovely Place (backgrounded) Such a lovely trace(1) They're livin' it up suing Berkeley California What a nice surprise What a nice surprise (backgrounded) Bring your alibies Windows NT a dreaming Pink OS on ice And they said We are all just prisoners here Of a marketing device And in the judges's chambers They gathered for the feast They diff(1)'d the source code listings But they can't kill -9 the beast Last thing I remember I was restore(8)'ing | more(1) I had to find the soft link back to the path I was before sleep(3) said the pagedaemon We are programmed to recv(2) You can swap out any time you like But you can never leave(1) [ substitute whirring of disk and tape drives for guitar solo ] Written by David Barr and Ken Hornstein and a little help from Greg Nagy and thanks to the lyrics archive at cs.uwp.edu From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 16:11:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA27760; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:11:05 -0700 Received: from dale.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA27472; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:08:25 -0700 Received: by dale.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id QAA10933; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:05:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Pfister X-Sender: ez045207@dale.ucdavis.edu To: Cassandra Ann Thomas cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Cassandra Ann Thomas wrote: > Mine I had to say was a song that I still do not know the name or who > sang it but I must say have only heard it sampled a million times since > then . .. . > > "When I hear music it makes me dance!" That would be "When I Hear Music" by Debbie Deb (Jam Packed Records, SUN 413, 1983, for all you trainspotters...). Classic early electro/freestyle from Miami. As for me Kraftwerk's "Computer World" blew my mind in the 5th grade. But Bach's Tocatta and Fugue in D minor is probably the first song I was really nuts about. marc From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 16:12:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA28011; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:12:39 -0700 Received: from redshift.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA28001; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:12:36 -0700 Received: from [165.227.94.210] (red210.redshift.com [165.227.94.210]) by redshift.com (8.7.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id QAA11141 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:12:32 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:17:11 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: tim@redshift.com (Tim Gotch) Subject: Re: my first music experience.. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Mozart. Pretentious but true. I was about 8 or nine. I can't recall the particular piece. Tim ------------------------------------------------------------ Tim Gotch tim@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~tim Hyper Design Technologies hdt@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~hdt 395 Del Monte Ctr. #128 Monterey, CA 93940 Nothing is true, everything is permitted ------------------------------------------------------------ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 16:30:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA29681; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:30:12 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA29675; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:30:08 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-120.apple.com [17.128.100.120]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id QAA18230; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:29:57 -0700 Received: from [17.130.22.217] (kip-2-217.apple.com [17.130.22.217]) by scv2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA11472; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:30:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199606062330.QAA11472@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: first music experience Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 16:30:50 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "SDream" , Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >First favorite song? Hard to remember that far back... "Ho Ho Ho, It's >Magic". I was 12. I don't suppose anyone knows who the heck sang that one? The Cars!!!! Ok, my first musical mussings must have been Styx. This is kinda embarassing, but I rembember standing in front of a mirror lip syncing and dancing around to "Blue Collar Man". or was it White collar Man..... on my walkman. My older brother and a bunch of his friends came in the room started making fun of me. My brother was really mean to me when I was a kid. anyways, I was 8 years old when that happend. I also remember listening to alot of Kiss and Journey. A few poeple have mentioned Styx as their first musical experience.....makes ya wonder if Styx music was giving off some sort of 'pre-rave-vibe'........ -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 16:57:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA02034; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:57:07 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA02026; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:57:04 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA14872 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:55:54 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA04859 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:55:45 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA19849 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:55:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:55:41 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Re: my first music experience.. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'm glad no one said "Get up and Boogie"! But what about the old funk? Surely someone out there was hip to da funk? :) - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 17:01:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA02563; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:01:52 -0700 Received: from tango.rahul.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA02557; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:01:48 -0700 Received: from bolero.rahul.net by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04862 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:01:46 -0700 Received: from [206.61.226.222] (c222.rahul.net) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP id AA07768 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:01:41 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:01:41 -0700 Message-Id: <199606070001.AA07768@bolero.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: wolfe@rahul.net (Nancy W. Wolfe) Subject: Re: my first music experience.. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > >On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Jessica Robin Berkson wrote: > >> embarrassing as it is, I remember going crazy over Wham! in about the 5th >> grade....(Wake me up before you go go/ don't leave me hanging >> on goin' solo).........and my first three vinyls were (in order) Madonna, >> cindi Lauper and Run DMC....What can I say...I was the product of the >>suburbs! >> >> -jessica >> I loved Kool & the Gang. (You've got to cool it now, cooooool watch out!) The first piece of vinyl I ever got though was from my mom for my 5th or 6th birthday. It was called My First Disco Album and I still have it. The songs? -Copacabana -Dance With Me -Shake Your Booty -That's the Way I Like It -Do the Hustle -Dance Across the Floor -Shadow Dancing -With a Little Luck My 2nd piece of vinyl was a record called Smurfing Sing Song. That was a good one too. It had a song called "You're a Pink Toothbrush" That was probably my favorite. After that it was Michael Jackson, Madonna, Huey Lewis and The News (still can't believe that one) and last but not least, that King Tut song. I can't remember now who sang it but I used to dance around the house and sing at the top of my lungs. I liked it cuz it had a funky beat. Anyone else? -Nancy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 17:26:22 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA05241; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:26:22 -0700 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA05236; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:26:19 -0700 From: TBOBSC@tevm2.nsc.com Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.6.12/8.6.11) id RAA09636 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:29:16 -0700 Received: from nsc.nsc.com by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (V1.3) id sma009579; Thu Jun 6 17:29:03 1996 Received: from tevm2.nsc.com by nsc.nsc.com (5.65/1.34) with SMTP id AA21436 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 6 Jun 96 17:25:59 -0700 Message-Id: <9606070025.AA21436@nsc.nsc.com> Received: from TEVM2 by tevm2.nsc.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5637; Thu, 06 Jun 96 17:26:21 PDT Date: Thu, 06 Jun 96 17:26:21 PDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience.. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk *** Reply to note of 06/06/96 17:01 FROM: Robert Brown SUBJECT: Re: my first music experience.. Nancy, Steve Martin did "King Tut". That was a funny album and I had it on vinyl but it's long lost by now... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 17:43:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA06723; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:43:30 -0700 Received: from engr90.scudc.scu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA06716; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:43:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199606070043.RAA06716@taz.hyperreal.com> Received: by engr90.scudc.scu.edu (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA143298014; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:40:14 -0700 From: Thomas Schwarz Subject: Re: my first music experience.. To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:40:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 221 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk When I was 13 a friend gave me a tape with Depeche Mode's 'Speak & Spell'. I was crazy about it and Depeche Mode became my first favorite band (first record, first concert, ...). And I still like their music. Thomas From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 17:55:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA07660; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:55:38 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA07654; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:55:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id RAA73443; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:55:30 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:55:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson Reply-To: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com cc: cpa@gis.net Subject: Sexual nature Sexual culture... (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I just got this message... This could be a highly amusing e-mail exchange.... :) :) ) paul ( p.s. of course, I am not the author ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 14:38:04 +0100 (BST) To: pabrams@itsa.ucsf.edu Subject: Sexual nature Sexual culture... Dear Sir, my name is Nina Lagesson, and I am currently doing my PhD. at the University of Bath in the U.K. Can you please confirm to me that it is in fact yourself who edited the above volume, together with Steven Pinkerton, as I am having some trouble finding the correct e-mail address, this one I obtained from American OnLine. If it is you, would you allow me to reply to you, I have soe questions with regards to the text, my subject of my PhD is 'Sexuality and Violence' Yours sincerely, Nina. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 18:14:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA09420; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:14:38 -0700 Received: from compute.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA09411; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:14:34 -0700 From: teena@lioness.compute.com Received: from lioness.compute.com by compute.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02765; Thu, 6 Jun 96 18:14:02 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 96 18:08:40 PDT Subject: Good-Bye To: sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Chameleon ARM_55, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well...Tomorrow is my last day of having my internet connection & email address. It will be my last day of work down in Irvine & that is where I have my connection. The sad thing is I'm moving to San Francisco on the 16th of June & will not have a computer for a while. I have yet to meet any of you & now that I will have more opportunities, I lose my email address!!! As soon as I get a computer, I will return to sfraves!!! Even though I will not be on the list for a while, I will definitely be at some gatherings!!! I have long blonde hair...Oops...sorry, I forgot I chopped it off!!!! Now my blonde hair is a bob!!! I will be the one dressed in black dancing all night with a big smile on my face!!1 I know that describes a lot of us!! Sometimes I will be up dancing against the speaker...something I picked up down here in LA. Well, anyways,I hope I meet some of you people!! I've enjoyed being on this list!!! Luv-Teena From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 18:37:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA11208; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:37:44 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA11197; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:37:40 -0700 Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA1795; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:37:10 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960607013723.00c271c4@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:37:23 -0700 To: Jim Cyr From: "THX1138" Subject: Re: Disco Inferno Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Dear Jim; Count on me for upfront finacial support. Peace THX1138 PS. Don't let the name fool ya, you know who this is. At 10:23 AM 6/6/96 -0700, you wrote: > >well, let's see > >first of all the "Disco Inferno" name is meant to be coy >and ironic in keeping with Burning Man's stated theme of "A Season in Hell" > >the basic idea is to rent and transport a massive sound system with >all the whistles and bells (generator, lights, satellite hook-ups, altars, >things to burn, mirror ball) and have it set up and ready to go >by Weds. August 28th (the night of the Full Moon) > >we would like for this to be a cooperative venture involving >Friends and Family, Pacific, Spaz, F8, CCC, Gateway, Ultraviolet, >St. John's, The River and Section 23 (from Manchester UK) - And be open >to others who are into this whole scene for the love of whatever music >they're into and not into profit-mongering > >the estimate is that this would cost 3 to 5 thousand dollars to pull >off properly >since we are all essentially poor, the idea would be for the above listed >to collaborate on a couple of outdoor parties as fund raisers (with a >suggested $5 donation) prior to Burning Man and a post Burning Man >event on the Saturday following (as a reunion and final fundraiser if >necessary) - this should raise the necessary funds > >i know that some of the above listed collectives own their own sound >system, but i think it would be fun to have a really great LOUD system >and not wreck havoc on any collective's smaller system > >The parties would start at sunset on Wednesday with an opening ritual >by The River and then perhaps the Gateway Full Moon Collective would take >over - each night could be one or two of the above listed groups >collaborating on something with a fully organized list of who plays when >throughout the weekend >There would be something in this mega-camp every night from 9pm to 9am > >All of the equipment would be set on pallets and enclosed in tents in the >event of sudden weather changes - top priority would be on protecting the >equipment so that each collective gets a fair opportunity to put on a >version of what they like to do - from old school to goa with a thread of >ceremonial intent throughout > >The suggestion for the first fund raiser would be July 3rd. > >I am not entirely naive - though that is debateable - I realize that >this will require the endorsement and participation of most of the listed >cooperatives along with the endorsement and participation of most people >on sfraves > >Disco Inferno (ideally) would be set up a couple of miles east of the >Man with the speakers pointed east - the idea would be to keep the area >east of the dance space totally clear of cars and campsites so that each >sunrise could be fully experienced by the dancers, with camping, cars >and porta potties set up to the west, south or north of the dance space > >I'd like as much input on this as possible >and also like to have the next meeting next wednesday in either >San Francisco or the south bay > >Feedback? > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 18:43:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAB11568; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:43:12 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA11532; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:42:48 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.81]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA02889 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:42:12 -0700 Message-ID: <31B78969.F4F@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 18:44:09 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: re: markie at Emi's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'm confused. I have a flyer (Green- a hard drive to higher consciousness) that says markie is at Top of the Wharf Cafe in SC tonight. 9:30 pm to 2 am. -- Aaron From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 18:56:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA12558; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:56:28 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA12542; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:56:23 -0700 Received: from si.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id SAA05219; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:56:21 -0700 Received: by si.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id SAA16955; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:56:16 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 18:56:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Boshko Abrams Subject: Re: my first music experience. To: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606070043.RAA06716@taz.hyperreal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Drip, drip, drop, little april showers. Bamby made me cry when I was a little kid (and still does), but that song stuck with me for some reason and is the first song I can remember. I think Bear Necessity (sp?) form the jungle book was second. Boy, I must have had almost every Disnsy record every made (at that time). Matt Da Loaf I'm just a little black rain cloud :)........ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:08:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA13547; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:08:31 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA13540; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:08:28 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.81]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA04439 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:07:55 -0700 Message-ID: <31B78F73.21F8@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 19:09:55 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: RE: 1st musical experience Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Regarding my 1st musical experience... I remember being one of those awkward, nerdy kids in 8th grade (you know the ones; no one hung around with them ) and hearing for the 1st time: "... all in all you're just a-nother brick in the wall..." Pink Floyd. Must have been around 1980 or 81. I also have fond memories of DOUBLE DUTCH BUS. Hugs- -- Aaron From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:12:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA13862; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:12:04 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA13853; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:12:01 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.81]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA04601 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:11:28 -0700 Message-ID: <31B7904E.62A4@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 19:13:34 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Markie @ Emi's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Just found out that Markie will be at Emi's tonight. $4.00 cover. L8r- -- aaron From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:14:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA14068; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:14:50 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA14061; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:14:48 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id TAA07100; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:14:40 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id TAA29342; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:14:40 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Jessica Robin Berkson Subject: Re: my first music experience. cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I just had a total flashback- I had two earlier records- Peter Paul & Mary- with Puff the Magic Dragon, and I had the raddest sesame street album- my favorite was Oscar.. -whether its dirty or dingy or rusted -if it ragged or rotten or busted -I love it because its trash! (or something like that) -jess:) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:24:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA14780; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:24:34 -0700 Received: from ix10.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA14774; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:24:31 -0700 Received: from wck-ca6-24.ix.netcom.com by ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA09930; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:21:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:21:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960606005422.35df34be@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: Re: Basics Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 12:35 PM 6/6/96 -0700, you wrote: >Methinks I'll be heading to Basics... > >who else? Me too me too! :):) Hope to see all ya happy ravers there, had a *total* blast at the last Basics, hope this one'll be as much fun! Love, Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * -O- * * * | * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:26:01 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA14911; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:26:01 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA14890; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:25:57 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uRrFH-00024AC; Thu, 6 Jun 96 19:25 PDT Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:25:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: Jessica Robin Berkson cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk the first music i remember was this weird halloween record we had ... with songs like Rock-A-Bye Monster :) that one scared me, cos it had awful sound effects of this poor monster going THUD! out of the tree. Also, i used to sit in the car when mom went shopping and listen to The Irish Rovers! I loved Bye Bye Bi-Plane, Winken Blinken and Nod, and of course The Unicorn :) boy i'm glad my musical tastes have improved. k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:30:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA15274; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:30:38 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA15268; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:30:35 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04204 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04057; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606070231.TAA04057@tuna.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: 1st musical experience Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk The 1st tapes my sister owned were: Barry Manilow RSO Chartbusters My 1st tapes that were given to me were: Cool and the Gang (Had Let's Groove and Lady Sun on it) Weird Al Yankovic My 1st tape that I bought was: Asia The 1st song that I knew all the words to was: Centerfold by The J. Giles Band. Rage in the Cage was on the reverse side I also owned some 45's which included: Another one bites the dust/Don't try Suicide: Queen Ain't never gonna break my stride: Mathew Wilder I also remember listening to a Snoopy 45 album with "The red Barron" on it I just recently bought Barry Manilow's Greatest Hits Volumes 1thru 3! Anyone else a fan? --erik From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:31:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA15421; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:31:31 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA15413; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:31:27 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA04321; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:32:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04080; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606070232.TAA04080@tuna.hooked.net> To: Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Re: my first music experience. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jun 6, 1996 7:14:40 PM at Jessica Robin Berkson wrote: >I just had a total flashback- I had two earlier records- Peter Paul & >Mary- with Puff the Magic Dragon, and I had the raddest sesame street >album- my favorite was Oscar.. > -whether its dirty or dingy or rusted > -if it ragged or rotten or busted > -I love it because its trash! > (or something like that) > > -jess:) > When do I get to meet you, Jess? --erik From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:36:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA15702; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:36:30 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA15695; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:36:27 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-17.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.81]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA06141 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:35:54 -0700 Message-ID: <31B79608.64B2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 19:38:00 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: re:music exp. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I dig barry manilow. also air supply. can you believe their greatest hits cd is still around 20 bucks!!! even today. any other air supply fans out there. c'mon... don't be bashful... :) L8r- -- aaron From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:48:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA16796; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:48:40 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA16785; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:48:37 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA06806 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:49:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04729; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:49:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606070249.TAA04729@tuna.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Moonpup and I are Fucked, BIG TIME!!!!!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk FUCK, FUCK, FUCK! Get this shit: Maybe I'm retarded, but on the east coast, the only time you get charged for a telephone call is when you dial a 1 in front of it. There is no "toll call" bullshit. Soooooooooooo. I've been using what I thought was a free call to access the net. BUT, I just opened my phone bill and learned that I've been charging about $25/day in calls to what I thought was a local number because it didn't have a one in front of it. SO, I now owe the pacific FUCKING bell about $500!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And guess what? I can't pay it. So what the fuck to I do? I just spent everything I owned to get to San Fran. And I don't have a stable job yet. I've been on the phone with several PacBell people including managers and the best they can come up with is a payment plan. Fuck the payment plan! This is BULLSHIT! It never even occured to me to check to see if I was dialing a "local, 12 mile radius" number". What an asinine system. So I guess everytime before I call a number I have to get out a map and see if the number I'm calling lies within the fucking 12 mile radius circle around my house? Goddamn this is crazy! Any suggestions? If I don't pay, than Milt (moonpup) is screwed, big time. Say goodbye to credit history. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:48:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA16828; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:48:47 -0700 Received: from ix10.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA16806; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:48:42 -0700 Received: from wck-ca6-24.ix.netcom.com by ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id TAA13495; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:46:04 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:46:04 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960606011833.35df7350@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: first music experience Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Aside from singing little songs in school with the class, my first real memories of music that I dug was reggae. Any reggae lovers out there remember that old 1971 soundtrack from The Harder They Come by Jimmy Cliff? I was just telling Paul A last night as a matter of fact, how "Johnny Too Bad" was the very first song I ever memorized the entire lyrics too. Heh heh.. And I have distinct memories (yes I was dancing even then!) of 2nd or 3rd grade when I'd go into the living room, shut all the doors, make sure no one was looking, put on the song Exodus by Bob Marley, and dance my ass off thru the whole song! :) Hee hee! How mortified I'da been had any grownups caught me, heaven forbid somebody should see me dance! ;) Love, Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * -O- * * * | * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:51:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA17177; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:51:30 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA17157; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:51:25 -0700 From: Derek Chung Message-Id: <199606070251.TAA17157@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar! To: sfraves@hyperreal.com (SF Raves) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.com (SFR Calendar) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 17156 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Basics and Down to Earth look pretty good for Saturday; I haven't checked out a lot of the new weeklies, so I don't know what to tell ya bout those. There was supposed to be a big party "Organic '96" later, with lots of big acts, but rumor has it the SF show is being scaled back - I'll post info when it firms up. THE SFR CALENDAR http://www.hyperreal.com/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Upcoming Parties in the San Francisco Bay Area Friday, June 7th - The SF House Collective presents _Life_ Tracy, Garth, Carlos, Jeno. Birthday party for Carlos 415.615.8559 Friday, June 7th - _Altered States_ Danee, Jesse, Bee, Paucus, Chad, Murry, guest. 415.679.3113 Friday, June 7th - The Three Wise Men presents The Great Escape 8:30pm-. SF. 415.586.7290 Saturday, June 8th - choice... presents Basics Tony, Josh, Garth, Doc Martin, Doran, Brownie, Astral Matrix (live). E.S.W.H/H.O.B.M./C.C.C./H.B.T.U.K. 415.905.9629 Saturday, June 8th - _Down to Earth_ Galen, John Howard, Solar, Pete Moss, Little T, Laron. Visuals by Mark Johns. $7 before 11pm 415.985.7109 Friday, June 14th - AstralScapes Inc. presents _Orion_ A Journey Through Sound Tyler, Wizard, Talizman, Jon Santos, Solar, Shoam, Candy Land Twinz, Myste, Minor Minor, Trent, Noel, UFO, Karizma, Thad, Hannibal Selecta, OM, Rig-A-Tony, OBSO, Consciousness Lab Ambient Sound Research. presale tix at Frequency-8, Getta Clue (Sac) and Garment Lounge (Oak) 415.273.1190 916.392.9105 Saturday, June 15th - _Magic Circle_ Sifu, Phonic, Mike P, Tony Fader. 10pm-, 18+, $7. 510.433.9770 Saturday, June 15th - Nexus presents _Second Chakra_ Dale Charles (Boston), Pete Moss (Boston), Jeno, Donald Glaude, DJ Quest, Carlos, Dreamer, Kwashi, Essence. 8pm-8am, . SF. 510.667.3492 415.337.4263 Saturday, June 15th - Frank Nitty and the Brotherhood presents _Indonesia_ Frank Nitty, DJ Ghost, E Flow (Sweden), Rick Preston, Kwashi, Essence, Dope Cat, J Mack. 415.560.5324 415.340.5607 408.235.9344 Friday, June 21st - Rain Dance presents _summer solstice tribal dance_ Jeno, Markie, Mark Farina, Tracy, Rob. presale tickets at Ameba 415.965.5045 510.889.2922 408.425.3316 Saturday, June 22nd - Full Circle Productions presents _Sankofa_ Mark Gage (Vapour Space), Rabbit in the Moon, DJ Monk, Vicious Vic, Wade Hampton, Terry Mullan, Justin, Ernie Munson, DJ Dan, Simon, Garth, Jeno. 415.675.9956 510.986.9089 Tuesday, June 25th - _Crash Worship_ live tribal/industrial band $10. Trocadero, 520 4th St @ Bryant, SF. 415.995.4600 Saturday, June 29th - _Tribal Funk_ Tony, Josh, Galen, guests. Thursday, July 4th - _Chateau de Boom_ fundraiser for San Mateo AIDS Services noon-8pm, $3. Hillsboro "classic spelling". 415.572.3250 Thursday, July 4th - _rhumboogie_ Rob Doten, Gavan, Gina. 9pm-2am, 21+. coco lounge, 139 8th St @ Minna, SF. Friday, July 12nd - Drip Drop Productions presents _Nafarius_ 415.436.0979 408.421.7189 Saturday, July 13rd - 6 in da Mornin Productions presents _Ground Zero_ Jim Hopkins, Simon, Ghost, Atommix, Josh, Liquid, Frank Nitty, Kimo, Essence, Kwashi, Spinner. Visuals by C.A.D., Trips R Us. 120,000 sq ft indoor/outdoor action 800.590.7032 415.709.7989 Wednesday, August 28th - Burning Man 1996 includes Wicked Sound System. save $10 by registering by June 1st. runs entire weekend, through September 2nd. All ages, $35. Black Rock Desert, Nevada. 415.985.7471 _________________________________________________________________ W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Thursday Lift - House, Funk w/DJs David Harness, Ruben Mancias, Jay-J, Black, guests. 12mid-5:30am, 21+, $5. 55 Natoma, SF. 415.267.5984 Velvet Shop - House, Techno. 21+, $5. Agenda Bass-ment, 399 S 1st @ San Salvador, SJ. 408.235.1556 [6.6 - Garth, Jonathan] _Azul_ - House, Soul w/DJs Alfie, James. 21+, Free. Casanova, 527 Valencia, SF. Full House - Acid Jazz, House w/DJs Finn, Matt Bernsen, Andrew Rawnsley, Bruno Ybarra, guests, live musicians. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Miss Pearl's Jam House, Eddy & Larkin, SF. Pack-a-Bowl - "We'll be droppin the wax while you're droppin the balls" w/DJs Mars, Tracy, guests. 8:30pm-2am, $6. Park Bowl, Haight @ Stanyan, SF. 415.541.5019 .blitz - foxyboysfancygirlsfreshmademixes begins April 4th 21+. 278 11th St @ Folsom, SF. _Le Jazz Hot!_ - future sounds for jazz heads w/DJs Andrew Jervis, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Nickies BBQ, 460 Haight, SF. 415.621.6508 _Real_ - house, techno. every first Thursday of the month 9pm-2am, 18+, $7. Pantages Theater, 1225 K St Mall, Sacramento. 916.565.9588 _Revolutionary Wax_ - coax your evolutionary ass w/DJs Consuelo Kevin, John John (Open Mind), James (Tweekin). 21+, Free. Dalva, 3121 16th St, SF. 415.252.7740 _Green_ - house, techno w/DJs guests weekly. 10pm-2am, 18+. the top of the Wharf Cafe, the end of the Santa Cruz Wharf, Santa Cruz. _Thirzdaze_ - bringing you the true frisco groove w/DJs DJ Dan, Donald Glaude, guests. details to follow. Friday _ Sound Factory _- House w/DJs Pete Avila, David Harness, guets. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. Sound Factory, 525 Harrison @ 1st, SF. 415.543.1300 _Soul'd Out_ - House w/DJs Julius Papp, Rick Preston, guests. free before 10:30 9pm-, 21+, $5. The Usual, 400 S.1st St., San Jose. _Nocturnal Transmission_ - House w/DJs David Harness, Tim Martinez, Saint John, guests. $5 before midnight. 11pm-5am, 21+, $10. 55 Natoma St., SF. 415.957.1730 _Go Fast_ - Techno. Energy Music...for Women by Women (boys can come too). 10pm-. 8th & Minna, SF. _Liquid Fridays_ - House w/DJs various DJs. 10pm-2am, 18+, Free. 2721 Broadway, Sacramento., Sacramento. 916.484.4285 the green door - "where circles meet squares" w/DJs andrew, thomas, caspar, paul, felix the dog, guests. 10pm-3am, 21+, $7. 880 Stevenson @ 10th, SF. _Nikita_ - house, techno w/DJs Jeno, Simon, Henrik. 10pm-7am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.267.0568 [6.7 - DJ Duke] [6.14 - Westbam, Hardsequencer] [6.21 - CJ Mackintosh] [6.28 - Derrick May] _The Scene_ - 21+. the EndUp, 401 6th @ Harrison, SF. 415.393.9067 _Beats_ - house, breakbeat, trance w/DJs Carlos Campos, Karizma, weekly guests. 7042 Folsom Blvd between Howe and 65th, Sacramento. 415.273.1345 916.558.0850 _This Side Up_ - house, techno w/DJs guests. 21+. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Saturday _Other Whirled_ - House, Techno w/DJs Warren, Nobel, Jason Cassady, Nikki Rivera, guests. saturday morning 6am-, 21+. 201 9th @ Howard, SF. _Sound Factory _- big club sounds 9:30pm-4am, 21+. Sound Factory, 525 Harrison @ 1st, SF. 415.543.1300 _Release _- Acid Jazz, Funk, Reggae, House w/DJs Jerry Ross, Josh, Mr. Sulu, Randy Wong. 21+. 1015 Folsom, , SF. 415.337.7457 55 - House, Euro w/DJs Jorge Martinez, Tim Martinez, guests. 21+. 55 Natoma St., SF. 415.267.1858 _Vanilla Fudge _- House w/DJs Corey Black, Sunshine, Moonbeam, Jason, Big Lee, Darren. occasional saturday nights. 10pm-2am, Free. Cafe Bastille, 55 Belden Alley, SF. 415.764.2903 Vertigo - Psycho, Techno, Disco, Funk w/DJs Ellen Ferrato, Dave Peterson, Lewis. 10pm-, 21+. the EndUp, 6th & Harrison, SF. 415.703.7172 _Liquid Vinyl_ - House w/DJs Jay-J, Suiki, John Howard, guests. 2am-6am, 21+, $8. DV8, 540 Howard, SF. 415.957.1730 _Nuff Respect _- Jungle w/DJs StarEyes, Thad. 5pm-9pm, Free. Your Mama's Cafe, 5239 College Ave @ Broadway, Oakland, Oakland. 510.601.YOUR phunkatech - Jungle w/DJs UFO, Noel, guests. 21+, $2. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. 415.995.4699 _Metro Jazz _- Acid Jazz w/DJs Ruben Mancias, Mauricio Avilas, Tom Thump, Franky, guests. 10pm-, 21+, $7. 111 Minna St, SF. 415.974.1719 [6.8 - Two Year Anniversary block party w/Josh Jones, Hueman Flavor, Andrew Jervis] Sunday _ Spundae _- House, Techno w/DJs Henrik, Carlos, Miquel, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For Technotica, call 415.764.2922 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 55 Natoma St., SF. 415.974.9389 _Leopard Lounge_ - Acid Jazz, Funk & Live Bands. w/DJs Suiki, Jay-J, Anthony, Julius Papp, Mark Farina, guests. 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 _Pleasuredome_ - House w/DJs Neil Lewis, David Harness, Phil B, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Quench - House, Ambient w/DJs Rick Preston, Ryan Tapia, guests. Ambient-Space explorations by DJ Leath and guests in the front room. 21+. The Usual, 400 South First St., San Jose. 408.535.0330 subbass - jungle, drum'n'bass, trip hop w/DJs noel, abstract, jawbone. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. 270 Brannan @ 2nd, SF. 415.905.8865 Strawberry Sundays - techno, house w/DJs Dutch, Jazz-E, Corey, Oscure, Jesse. $5 for under 21;. 6am-, 18+, $3. Bahia, 1600 Market St., SF. 415.635.9183 Mantra - A hypnotic trance-inducing affirmation. w/DJs Dutch, Surge, Theta Blip, Abstract, Noel, UFO, guests. 10pm-3am, 18+, $5. 683 Clementina Alley, SF. 415.331.1500x888 Monday Mushroom Jazz - acid jazz, trip hop w/DJs Mark Farina, Miquel, Julius Papp, guests. 9pm-3am, 21+, $5. 330 Ritch St, SF. 415.905.8811 _Noc Noc_ - techno/ambient/jungle w/DJs Mohsen. 21+, Free. 557 Haight St., SF. _Tongue n' Groove _- trip hop, jungle, acid jazz w/DJs tomas, seth, m.mark, guests. 10pm-4am, 21+, $5. Cat's Grill & Alley, 1190 Folsom @ 8th, SF. 415.431.3332 _rotation_ - jazz, hiphop, soul, acid jazz, funk w/DJs racer x, yamu, stef, rasta cue-tip, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. up & down club, 1151 Folsom St, SF. _21st sensory _- abstractbeatz-hiphop-dub-drum n'bass-electro w/DJs Tomas, Abstract, guests. 21+. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. 415.974.4358 _Movement_ - trance, breakbeat, jungle w/DJs Julio, Kimo. 10pm-2am, 18+, $3. Bahia Cabana, 1600 Market @ Franklin, SF. 415.263.5797 Tuesday Butterfly - Hip Hop, Acid Jazz, House, Funk w/DJs Charlotte, Dani, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Casanova, 527 Valencia, SF. Breathe Deep - House w/DJs Jay-J, Ruben, Miquel, guests. 10pm-4am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom., SF. 415.998.9515 _Begin..._ - house, trip hop, trance w/DJs Darrel, Cisco, Radley, Ollie, Seanee, Xpress, Grey, Anna. 9pm-2am, All ages. The Inn of the Beginning, 8201 Old Redwood Highway, Cotati, Cotati. 707.524.4443 _Shoam_ - Trip-Hop & Drum n Bass Your Mama's Cafe, 5239 College, Oakland. _Succotash!_ - tasty jazz - funk - beats - space w/DJs tom thump, rasta q-tip. 21+, Free. up & down club, 1151 folsom st., SF. _supper_ - funk, acid jazz w/DJs Caspar, guests. 21+, Free. Julie's Supper Club, 1123 Folsom @ 7th, SF. 415.861.0707 _Light-n-Up Lounge_ - house w/DJs Preston, guests. 21+. 111 Minna St, SF. _L-Tryptophan_ - ambient, techno w/DJs guest DJs weekly. 21+, Free. 1624 California @ Van Ness, SF. _Lost in Space_ - house, hip-hop w/DJs Pause, Dark Money, Winnie B, Eric Lacy. 21+, Free. Cafe Mars, 798 Brannan @ 7th, SF. _Eclectic_ - house, jungle, drum & bass w/DJs Yamu, Siege, Franko, Foster, guests. Fresh fruit & condoms to all 9pm-2am, 21+. Paradise Bar & Grill, 5356 College Ave, Oakland. Wednesday _ Come/Unity _- House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth. first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $7. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 _Boost_ - old school uplifting house w/DJs Jamie J, Hector the ejector. 21+. the EndUp, 6th & Harrison, SF. 415.703.7105 _Roots_ - House, Dub, Reggae w/DJs Garth, Jeno, guests. Buna & guests in the dub reggae room 10pm-4am, 21+, $6. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.512.5713 _cosmic lounge _- space jazz, galactic grooves, jungle w/DJs Caspar, Paul, Seth, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. cafe mars, 798 Brannan @ 7th, SF. _Reunion_ - Danny, Naz Cafe, guests. 9pm-, 21+, Free. The Fulton Bar, 1243 Fulton Mall, Fresno. 209.488.5332 _Thirsty_ - tasty house tunes and even better company w/DJs Jellybear, Jay-J, top notch guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. _The Lounge_ - 9pm-3am, 21+. 1401 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.922.8041x4240 _Bubbles_ - deep funky techno house music w/DJs Don Crisp (Crisp Records), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+. Babylon, 2260 Van Ness @ Vallejo, SF. 415.567.1222 _Wish_ - techno, house w/DJs guests weekly. Lighting by EyeTribe 18+. Bahia, 1600 Market St, SF. 415.436.0663 _Belief_ - house w/DJs Julius Papp, Harry Who?, Rick Preston. begins 5.22. 10pm-, 21+. Agenda basement, 1st & San Salvador, San Jose. _Jackin' the Box_ - weeklytechnohousejammyinnadetroitchicagostylee w/DJs jon santos, samuel, guests. 10pm-2am, 18+, $5. 375 1st St @ Harrison, SF. [6.12 - john howard] [6.19 - dial8] Boogie Bowl - house, techno w/DJs John Howard, Tracy, Dave, Virg, guests. admission includes bowling and pool. 10pmm-3am, $8. Country Club Bowl, 88 Vivian Way @ E.Francisco, San Rafael. 415.456.6440 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * Clubline - 415.979.8686 * Fatline - 415.207.3668 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * the Global Party Network Buzzline - 415.568.1338 * The Groove Line - (415) 331.1500 ext.4788 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV Shows * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Monday afternoon 12:30-3:00 pm - DJ Jerecho presents the best of the urban polyrhythmic experience jungle, acid jazz, techno, electro, breakbeat KDVS, 90.3 FM (Davis) * Wednesday night/Thursday morning 3am-6am - "Aural Fixation" experimental sounds of ambient and trip hop with a splash of hi nrg, from trance to jungle. KZSC 88.1 fm (Santa Cruz) * Thursdays 9:30pm-midnight - "Aurora Borealis" Beats and atmospherics w/DJ Seth. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night - nocturnal transmissions - featuring house DJs from SF and around the world. mid-2am, 107.7 FM (SF) * Friday night - Your Mama's House w/Pete Avila - 3am-5am, 106.1 KMEL. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Friday night/Saturday morning - the Uncle Noah TV Show - the best in Techno and House music. 3-5am, KDVS 90.3fm (Davis) * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * Saturday night 9pm-mid - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. and Monkeywrench KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) _________________________________________________________________ For a _search_ interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section (http://www.hyperreal.com/zines/late/clubs/). _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. To subscribe or unsubscribe to the calendar mailing list, send e-mail to majordomo@hyperreal.com with either the line subscribe sfraves-calendar or unsubscribe sfraves-calendar There is also an sfraves discussion mailing list for issues related to clubs, parties, house and techno music, etc. To subscribe, send e-mail to majordomo@hyperreal.com with the line subscribe sfraves in the body of the message. Derek Chung - dhchung@hyperreal.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:54:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA17790; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:54:45 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA17784; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:54:42 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id TAA07728 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:55:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id TAA04820; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:55:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606070255.TAA04820@tuna.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: More bad luck, anyone own a truck? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk More bad luck.... After I got my second $25 ticket in front of my house for street cleaning... I was riding moonpups bike to the beach and around the golden gate park I got a flat. I pulled a 2 inch nail out of the tire. I managed to push the bike 25 blocks to the Haight area and left it at my friend Jess' Place. But I need to get it home. Does anyone own a truck that would be willing to help me transfer it to a shop to get the tire fixed? Help me please! --erik 415-337-6666 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 19:55:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA17884; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:55:37 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA17876; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:55:32 -0700 Received: from (ascend@sjx-ca16-02.ix.netcom.com [199.35.223.130]) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA15981; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:54:56 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:54:56 -0700 Message-Id: <199606070254.TAA15981@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> From: ascend@ix.netcom.com (Gregory Sandler ) Subject: Re: Basics 4 Year/Rampant Records Tour To: John Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You wrote: > > >Finally, a good party here in SF! Doran hasn't been up here in a while, >and I'm really looking forward to checking him out... Anyone else going? > Of course, I will definatly be there!!! (Crayon suit and all!!!) Peace, Greg :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 20:16:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA19663; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:16:40 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA19649; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:16:37 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA10889 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:17:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06296; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606070317.UAA06296@tuna.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Returned mail: No recipient addresses found in header (fwd) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Astrology or Coincidence? Prior to my streak of bad luck, I posted that I was looking for a decent place to get my hair cut (planning to get about a foot taken off). I got several replys and I decided to go with an SFRaver named Greg's recommendation at this place called Belli Capelli. I called and I was set up to get my hair cut by this guy named Gregory (Coincidence?). While getting my hair cut, we talked and I told him that I had just packed up my shit and moved to San Fran at the beginning of the month. He said, "Me too! I just did the same from Atlanta." (Coincidence?) After some more chatting, he asked my what my sign was. I said, "Pices". He said, "Me, too!"(Coincidence?) He said his B-day was Mar. 5th. I said, "Me, too!" (Coincidence?) He then proceded to describe me, my personality and my thought process over the last month. It was basically right on! The same as his, apparently. (Coincidence?) He also was into making hats. I never met anyone before that made hats. But Jess (SF Rant and Raver) who I also met recently is/was also into making hats with a very similar style (Coincidence?) I don't know... but I just can't understand coincidence some time. Makes me think that it's not. But then what is it? By the way... If anyone wants a fucking great hair cut... go to this guy. Maybe he can read your soul, too... like he seemed to read mine. --erik **IMPORTANT! READ DISCLAIMER** These words were NOT written by moonpup He's in London until late August ...and I'm ERIK. I'll be using his address until then Please address all comments, rebuttals, love or hate letters to me, ERIK or drop me a line... 415-337-6666 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 20:18:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA19825; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:18:40 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA19817; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:18:37 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id UAA11150 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:19:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id UAA06310; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606070319.UAA06310@tuna.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Astrology or Coincidence? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Astrology or Coincidence? Prior to my streak of bad luck, I posted that I was looking for a decent place to get my hair cut (planning to get about a foot taken off). I got several replys and I decided to go with an SFRaver named Greg's recommendation at this place called Belli Capelli. I called and I was set up to get my hair cut by this guy named Gregory (Coincidence?). While getting my hair cut, we talked and I told him that I had just packed up my shit and moved to San Fran at the beginning of the month. He said, "Me too! I just did the same from Atlanta." (Coincidence?) After some more chatting, he asked my what my sign was. I said, "Pices". He said, "Me, too!"(Coincidence?) He said his B-day was Mar. 5th. I said, "Me, too!" (Coincidence?) He then proceded to describe me, my personality and my thought process over the last month. It was basically right on! The same as his, apparently. (Coincidence?) He also was into making hats. I never met anyone before that made hats. But Jess (SF Rant and Raver) who I also met recently is/was also into making hats with a very similar style (Coincidence?) I don't know... but I just can't understand coincidence some time. Makes me think that it's not. But then what is it? By the way... If anyone wants a fucking great hair cut... go to this guy. Maybe he can read your soul, too... like he seemed to read mine. --erik **IMPORTANT! READ DISCLAIMER** These words were NOT written by moonpup He's in London until late August ...and I'm ERIK. I'll be using his address until then Please address all comments, rebuttals, love or hate letters to me, ERIK or drop me a line... 415-337-6666 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 20:20:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA19985; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:20:59 -0700 Received: from ultima.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA19979; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:20:55 -0700 From: freakz@ultima.org Message-Id: <199606070320.UAA19979@taz.hyperreal.com> Received: from ultima.org by ultima.org; Thu, 6 Jun 96 19:09 PDT X-Sender: freakz@ultima.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 259 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 20:19:35 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: It's BONNY DOON! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Sorry but all this misspelling of Bonny Doon is really getting to be a pet peeve of mine! It's spelled BONNY DOON (not dune) and is named for the town a few miles up the road where Bonny Doon Rd intersects at HWY 1. Get it? Got it? Good! Freak Out! -Sean From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 21:22:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA25090; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:22:51 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA25077; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:22:48 -0700 Received: from well (cubensis@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA16549; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:22:41 -0700 (PDT) From: John Bagby Subject: Re: first music experience To: lanima00 cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606062048.NAA14323@taz.hyperreal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yes! Besides memories of Little Feat and Jimmy Cliff on my parents turntable, my first musical imprint is Gabriel's voice on The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway (1974, when I was 5 years old). No wonder I'm so strange. ;-p On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, lanima00 wrote: > hello all- > > just so you know, my brothers were playing peter gabriel when i was born, > and i have been listening to him ever since. i was rather suprised when i > found out that not all people enjoyed his music. > > glad to enter into the conversation of a not-normally quiet list! > > peace, love, and good music- > > matt l > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 21:28:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA25469; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:28:02 -0700 Received: from ix13.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA25457; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:27:59 -0700 Received: from wck-ca14-23.ix.netcom.com by ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id VAA06630; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:25:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 21:25:29 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960606025739.35b7097c@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: Re: C*U last night Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Come*unity was a whole lotta fun last night... All of the things that >could have been negatives (sometimes-slow untrancey music, club >atmosphere, etc.) somehow actually added something to my experience.. Yeah, it was actually a lotta fun! I've only been to 1015 once before, for Spundae's three year anniversary a cuppla months ago, and then they had the whole damn enchilada open, this time they only had pretty much the main level open, so it was a lot smaller. But it was still fun, in spite of the clubby type people & open bars. Everybody was still there to have fun, everybody was smiling & dancing! Yeah, the music was kinda slow, guess Garth's stuff just isn't really my style, but the experience still made me smile, so that is a good thing. Hey did anybody who went catch the Robert Palmer Girls (remember that song? "might as well face it, you're addicted to love...") dancing up on that stage above the dj? Me & Amy S. thought they were pretty funny! :) >It was also fun to see lots of sfravers (even some I hadn't met before!) >and to be transported by such a huge, grooving crowd (especially for a >wednesday night). Just what I needed!! Yeah! Nice to meet some new sfravers, I found a surprisingly large number of sfravers there actually. Anybody who's looking to meet Leslie Ayres, this is the place to find her! :) >Thanks to Shawna for her (always) good company!! Now, it's time to get >down to some serious learning. Well it's Paul's fault that I came out at all, he has this uncanny ability to drag me out dancing right smack in the middle of the week! Props to Paul for that one folks! :) I'd never go out anywhere otherwise... Well hope to see you all at Basics, I'll be the one carrying around a Jamaican butt-load of glowsticks of every size & color! I just realized I now have about fifteen of them to bring to the next party, large and small, pink, blue, green, yellow, and red! :):) *If* you're good, I *might* give ya one! ;) Love, Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * -O- * * * | * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 22:42:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA01084; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:42:27 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA01072; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:42:21 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id WAA00608; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:42:09 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id WAA15487; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:31:29 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:31:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: BASICS???? To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk By any chance does any one know where Basics is gonna be held this Sat.? If it is in the Homebase warehouse in Oakland, it should be phat! Please let me know....thanx :) RaVe On! _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* * \ | | \ | * * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * * ____ __ ======================================== * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 22:45:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA01291; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:45:03 -0700 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA01257; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:44:59 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA01663; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:44:26 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:44:26 -0400 Message-ID: <960607014426_129755002@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: THX1138@planet-jubip.com, surfpunk@well.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: D.I.: a couple of miles from the man? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hmmm, I believe it was exactly one mile from the man last year, & that was a hell of a walk, and as far as I know there were no sound bleed complaints. A couple of miles would be really harsh on the pedestrians, and would open more chance to additional people getting run over on the playa. Just a thought, Steveo P.S. what do people think about starting a seperate list for BM, D.I. brainstorming. This could get intense (hopefully) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 23:14:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA03373; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:14:25 -0700 Received: from ix13.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA03368; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:14:22 -0700 Received: from wck-ca14-23.ix.netcom.com by ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id XAA17266; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:11:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:11:52 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960606044402.352f4106@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: Re: BASICS???? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >By any chance does any one know where Basics is gonna be held this Sat.? >If it is in the Homebase warehouse in Oakland, it should be phat! >Please let me know....thanx :) Yeah, I've been wondering about getting a little more information on this one too, Martin's voicemail still has all the information for the April Gathering! Hope he changes the voicemail soon. I also want to know how much to expect to pay. Last one was $17. Sounds like this may be more? Love, Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * -O- * * * | * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 6 23:38:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA04893; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:38:36 -0700 Received: from welchlink.welch.jhu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA04887; Thu, 6 Jun 1996 23:38:33 -0700 Received: by welchlink.welch.jhu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id CAA01481; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:35:14 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:35:14 -0400 (EDT) From: DENNIS PETER KIM To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: hello. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hello all. my name is dennis and i'll be working in san fran for the next few months. i've been in the scene in baltimore for a little over a year and am itching to go to a party. alas, but i am clueless. i heard carlos spin a few times in the baltimore/dc area. he was pretty cool. my quesiton is, can anyone suggest some kick ass parties that i must attend? or dj's to look out for? i'm into funky house and the occasional trance. hard step jungle ain't my thing. any suggestions would be appreciated. thanks all. dennis From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 00:58:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA11260; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:58:09 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA11254; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:58:07 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id AAA11712; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:58:03 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id AAA22751; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:58:03 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:58:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy C Cone Subject: Re: Whad up? (fwd) To: KaySEE cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi! Oboy, here goes... My first radio musical experience was a song called "Fox On the Run" by a group called "Sweet"; memorible due to the intriguing synth intro. My first album purchased was "Los Chicanos" by Cheech and Chong. My first album gifts were "Around the World with 3 Dog Night" and the soundtrack to "Live and let Die" by Paul McCartney and Wings. My next purchase was a real grab bag - two albums, Barry Manilow's "I write the Songs and "Kiss LIve". Go figure. Ran ( fungus coming on! =) ) / -=*=-/ ~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 01:20:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA12917; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:20:14 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA12909; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:20:10 -0700 Received: from [206.15.64.126] (sf-tty27-ppp.well.com [206.15.64.126]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id BAA10073 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:20:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: leftjab@mail.well.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:25:50 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: leftjab@well.com (leftjab) Subject: Re: my first music experience Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk mid 70's pop/disco/soul . . . as an 8-year old the first thing I bought was a 45 called "Shame, Shame, Shame" by Gloria something . . .not that bad, but then i remember liking "The Night Chicago Died," "Billy, Don't be a Hero," and "Love Will Keep Us Together," ugh . . . I still have Chic's greatest hits, a little precursor for phat bass grooves (peace to Bernard Edwards) . . . the Beatles rescued me from top 40 when I was 12 -- Rubber Soul is still my fave of theirs, tho I didn't understand Norwegian Wood at the time . . . leftjab From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 01:44:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA15402; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:44:31 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA15396; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:44:28 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca9-26.ix.netcom.com [199.182.128.58]) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id BAA08347; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:43:24 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 01:43:24 -0700 Message-Id: <199606070843.BAA08347@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: re: markie at Emi's To: ajtoy Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You know what, I showed up and the place was empty. It wasn't even open tonight! DAMNIT! Oh well. Maybe they're taking a break? Adam R.Lunatic You wrote: > >I'm confused. I have a flyer (Green- a hard drive to higher >consciousness) that says markie is at Top of the Wharf Cafe in SC >tonight. 9:30 pm to 2 am. > >-- Aaron > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 02:19:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id CAA21825; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:19:58 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id CAA21820; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:19:56 -0700 From: polo@eden.com Received: from [206.81.226.197] (net-7-197.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.197]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id EAA15863 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:19:50 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:25:04 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Basics Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Michal Migurski asks: >Methinks I'll be heading to Basics... > >who else? Me!! Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 02:20:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id CAA21854; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:20:02 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id CAA21835; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 02:19:59 -0700 From: polo@eden.com Received: from [206.81.226.197] (net-7-197.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.197]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id EAA15868 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:19:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:25:07 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com (PLUR Kittens) Subject: Basic(s) Info Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Lotsa stuff here... First Amy asks: >could anyone tell em what the line-up is for this party? Andrew says: >I don't have the flyer in front of me, but I believe it is Garth, Tony, >Josh, Doc Martin, Doran, and Brownie. The only one I'm not sure about is >Josh.... It should be a great party. Anyone else hear any rumors about >possible locations (in the city, east Bay etc.?) Mark D. Camp suggests: >I heard possibly at the Oakland "Gathering" warehouse. Shawna adds: >Yeah, I've been wondering about getting a little more information on this >one too, Martin's voicemail still has all the information for the April >Gathering! Hope he changes the voicemail soon. Ok, here's my $0.02: I'm really looking forward to going to a party while I'm in SF this weekend and figured Basics would be it. I also am a HUGE fan of DJ Dan and was hoping to catch him at some point. So I called the Basics info number and got the same old recording that Shawna mentioned. Then I called DJ Dan's booking agent and the woman on the phone looked up in Dan's book and found that he's booked in North Carolina on Friday night and booked "at a party called Basics in San Francisco on Saturday night". Wow! Doc Martin _and_ DJ Dan! This sounds awesome! One question: Andrew mentions "Josh". Is this Josh Wink or another (local?) Josh? Look for me at Basics!!! Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 04:19:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA04070; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:19:03 -0700 Received: from gilligan.tsoft.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id EAA04059; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:19:00 -0700 Received: by gilligan.tsoft.net id <24087>; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:18:03 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Attn: SF Peninsula people... From: myriad@bbs.tsoft.net (vivid voyage) Comments: None. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:13:45 -0700 Organization: Tsoft BBS/Public Access Unix, Mt. View, CA USA 415 428 0190 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Attn: SF Peninsula sfravers... If you are interested in carpooling to events in SF or beyond, please email me privately and let me know who you are! Would like to carpool with other sfravers! Thanks! -- vivid voyage (myriad@bbs.tsoft.net) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 04:21:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA04293; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:21:53 -0700 Received: from lynx.dac.neu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA04261; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:21:48 -0700 Received: (from ammartin@localhost) by lynx.dac.neu.edu (Noygdb!) id GAA14560 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 06:27:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Amy Martin Message-Id: <199606071027.GAA14560@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Subject: down to earth To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 06:27:20 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hi, i was just wondering if anyone was planning to go to down to earth this sat? anyone? amy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 04:30:49 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA04914; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:30:49 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA04909; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 04:30:47 -0700 Received: from [206.81.226.198] (net-7-198.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.198]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id GAA18807 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 06:30:42 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 06:35:56 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com (PLUR Kittens) From: polo@eden.com (-* POLO *-) Subject: Ameba's Web Page Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Is it just me or is Ameba's web page acting screwey? Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 07:45:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA18177; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:45:55 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA18166; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:45:52 -0700 Received: from [205.231.222.75] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:45:48 -0700 X-Sender: knucklehead@mail.domain.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: knucklehead@club.net ("Knucklehead") Subject: NRR (Bill Gates) Story Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:45:48 -0700 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I thought some people might like this. ---------------------------------------------------------- Bill Gates died in a car accident. He immediately found himself in purgatory, being sized up by St. Peter. "Well, Bill, I'm really confused on this call; I'm not sure whether to send you to Heaven or Hell. After all, you enormously helped society by putting a computer in almost every home in America, yet you also created that ghastly Windows '95. I'm going to do something I've never done before. In your case I'm going to let you decide where you want to go." Bill replied, "Well, what's the difference between the two?" St. Peter said, "I'm willing to let you visit both places briefly, if it will help your decision." Fine, but where should I go first?" "I'll leave that up to you." "Okay then," said Bill. "Let's try Hell first." So Bill went to Hell. It was a beautiful, clean, sandy beach with clear waters and lots of bikini-clad women running around, playing in the water, laughing and frolicking about. The sun was shining; the temperature perfect. He was very pleased. "This is great!" he told St. Peter. "If this is hell, I REALLY want to see heaven!" "Fine," said St. Peter, and off they went. Heaven was a place high in the clouds, with angels drifting about, playing harps and singing. It was nice, but not as enticing as Hell. Bill thought for a quick minute, and rendered his decision. "Hmmm. I think I'd prefer Hell," he told St. Peter. "Fine," retorted St. Peter, "as you desire." So Bill Gates went to Hell. Two weeks later, St. Peter decided to check on the late billionaire to see how he was doing in Hell. When he got there, he found Bill, shackled to a wall screaming amongst hot flames in dark caves, being burned and tortured by demons. "How's everything going?" he asked Bill. Bill responded, with his voice filled with anguish and disappointment, "This is awful! This is nothing like the Hell I visited two weeks ago! I can't believe this is happening! What happened to that other place, with the beautiful beaches, the scantily-clad women playing in the water?!???" "That was a demo," replied St. Peter. Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 07:48:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA18399; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:48:38 -0700 Received: from ix13.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA18393; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:48:35 -0700 Received: from wck-ca5-03.ix.netcom.com by ix13.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id HAA19683; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:46:10 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 07:46:10 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960606131815.2ad7a0ae@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: Re: Ameba's Web Page Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 06:35 AM 6/7/96 -0500, you wrote: >Is it just me or is Ameba's web page acting screwey? > Yeah, I think you're right. All I found was the logo and nothing else except a little tiny icon that, when you click on it, it brings you to a completely blank page. Still under construction perhaps? Love, Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * | * * * * -O- * * * | * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 08:12:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA20765; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:12:05 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA20753; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:12:00 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA19513; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:10:09 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id IAA12376; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:04:06 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: shawna-@ix.netcom.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: first music experience Date: 07 Jun 1996 16:02:26 GMT Message-Id: <1094189054.7552379@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yea, Jimmy is pertty dope. I have the album on cassete too =) "dance with me..." Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 08:15:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA21094; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:15:26 -0700 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA21088; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:15:23 -0700 From: Thnkblnd@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA19170; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:14:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:14:51 -0400 Message-ID: <960607111450_212487926@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: shawna-@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: C*U last night Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 96-06-07 00:40:10 EDT, shawna-@ix.netcom.com (hey, where am I?) writes: > Hey did anybody who went catch the Robert >Palmer Girls ... dancing up on that stage above the dj? Me & Amy S. thought they >were pretty funny! :) That's exactly what they were! Too funny! Any time I needed a giggle I'd look up there and watch those girls gyrating with sultry looks on their faces... too classic!!! -Rebecca From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 08:43:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA23028; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:43:15 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA23020; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:43:12 -0700 Received: (from raygun@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA20925; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:43:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Reagan Reid To: Matthew Boshko Abrams cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Shit! ever since I saw Kaysee's original Post, I had been trying to remeber and I couldn't until know; thank you! Bambi, The Jungle Book and The Fox and The Hound were some of my first albums. It always tore me up when I heard the part where Bambi's mamma died. After that,it was Michael Jackson Madonna and Culture Club. memories, Reagan On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Matthew Boshko Abrams wrote: > Drip, drip, drop, little april showers. > > Bamby made me cry when I was a little kid (and still does), but that song > stuck with me for some reason and is the first song I can remember. I think > Bear Necessity (sp?) form the jungle book was second. Boy, I must have > had almost every Disnsy record every made (at that time). > > > Matt > Da > Loaf > > I'm just a little black rain cloud :)........ > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 10:09:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA01596; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:09:26 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA01585; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:09:22 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA11408 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:09:20 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby.vip.best.com (tgrigsby.vip.best.com [205.149.169.221]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA06139 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:01:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:01:23 -0700 Message-Id: <199606071701.KAA06139@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Re: 1st musical experience X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hm. Well, my first album was AC/DC's "Back in Black". (Yeah, I'm a rocker) Next was a couple of album's by ELO, including the one with "Telephone". Still got all of them, too. Geez, I wish I had a turntable right about now... S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 10:17:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA02361; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:17:20 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA02351; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:17:17 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA12308 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:17:09 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby.vip.best.com (tgrigsby.vip.best.com [205.149.169.221]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA13285 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:11:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:11:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199606071711.KAA13285@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Re: Moonpup and I are Fucked, BIG TIME!!!!!! X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Get this shit: I can't help monetarily, but I can definitely commiserate. Pac Bell is a pack of Phone Nazis. When I moved into this apartment, they informed me that there were two lines coming into the apartment. I said, "Cool, hook them both up", thinking I'd then have a computer line and a voice line. Well, come to find out there was only one line. They insisted they hooked up two lines. They explained that, at the junction box, they hooked both lines up. I told them I didn't give a rat's *ss what they did at that box, my apartment only had one incoming line. I felt that since I didn't have access to that second line, I shouldn't have to pay for something I didn't actually recieve. Well, no matter who I talked to, they refused to waive the fee for the second installation. Can you believe they broke up Ma Bell so there'd be "competition"? If there was any real competition, Pac Bell wouldn't treat it's customers like this... As for the 12-mile radius crap, just remember to call the city you're in or one that's immediately adjacent and you're usually ok. S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 10:17:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA02388; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:17:30 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA02382; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:17:27 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA09235 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:17:24 -0700 Received: (enigma@localhost) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA11543 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:09:20 -0700 From: George Feil Message-Id: <199606071709.KAA11543@shellx.best.com> Subject: Re: my first music experience To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:09:18 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 396 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hmmm...I'm not sure which was exactly the first, but the album that I most vividly remember is Walt Disney's "Winnie the Poo" album. I couldn't stop playing that one, especially, "I'm Just a Little Black Rain Cloud." As far as adult music is concerned, it was the Beatles, "Strawberry Fields". No wonder I'm a raver nowadays... -G- [Same old George, now subscribed from the private account] From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 10:24:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA03119; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:24:36 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03113; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:24:33 -0700 Received: from (peterbf@sfo-ca14-03.ix.netcom.com [205.184.16.67]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA10494 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:23:53 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:23:53 -0700 Message-Id: <199606071723.KAA10494@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> From: peterbf@ix.netcom.com (peter fogel) Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Save PBS!(non rave related) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ---- Begin Forwarded Message >Send to all friends - young & old, with kids or without! >> >> > >> > > >Gary P. Smith,KLCS writes: >> > > > This is a petition to save Sesame Street. All you do is add >> > > > your name on the list and then forward it to everyone you >> > > > know. The only time you send it to the included address is >> > > > if you are the 50th, 100th, etc. Send it on to everyone you >> > > > know. >> > > > >> > > > PBS, NPR (National Public Radio), and the arts are >> > > > facing major cutbacks in funding. In spite of the efforts of >> > > > each station to reduce spending costs and streamline their >> > > > services, the government officials believe that the funding >> > > > currently going to these programs is too large a portion of >> > > > funding for something which is seen as "unworthwhile." >> > > > Currently, taxes from the general public for PBS equal $1.12 >> > > > per person per year, and the National Endowment for the Arts >> > > > equals $.64 a year in total. A January 1995 CNN/USA >> > > > Today/Gallup poll >> > > > indicated that 76% of Americans wish to keep funding for PBS, >> > > > third only to national defense and law enforcement as the most >> > > > valuable programs for federal funding. >> > > > Each year, the Senate and House Appropriations commitees >> > > > each have 13 subcommitees with jurisdiction over many programs >> > > > and agencies. Each subcommitee passes its own appropriation >> > > > bill. The goal each >> > > > year is to have each bill signed by the beginning of the >> > > > fiscal year, which is October 1. In the instance of the >> > > > Corporation of Public Broadcasting, the bill determines the >> > > > funding for the next >> > > > three years. When this issue comes up in 1996, the funding >> > > > will >> > > > be determined for fiscal years 1996-1998. >> > > > The only way that our representatives can be aware of the >> > > > base of support or PBS and funding for these types of programs >> > > > is by >> > > > making our voices heard. >> > > > Please add your name to this list if you believe in what we >> > > > stand for. >> > > > This list will be forwarded to the President of the United >> > > > States, the Vice President of the United States, and >> > > > Representative Newt >> > > > Gingrich, who is the instigator of the action to cut funding >> > > > to these worthwhile programs. >> > > > If you happen to be the 50th, 100th, 150th, etc. signer of >> > > > this petition, please forward to : >> > > > >> > > > kubi7975@blue.univnorthco.edu. >> > > > >> > > > This way we can keep track of the lists and organize them. >> > > >Forward this to everyone you know, and help us to keep >> > > >these programs alive. >> > > >Thank you. >> > > > >> > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > >> > > >1. Elizabeth Weinert, student, University of Northern Colorado, >> > > >Colorado. >> > > >2. Nikki Marchman, student, University of Northern Colorado, >> > > >Colorado. >> > > >3. Laura King, Salt Lake City, Utah >> > > >4. Mary Lambert, San Francisco, CA >> > > >5. Sam Tucker, Seattle, WA >> > > >6. Steve Mack, Seattle, WA >> > > >7. Stacy Shelley, Sub Pop Records, Seattle, WA. >> > > >8. Amy Saaed, Seattle, WA >> > > >9. Jill Hudgins, Atlanta, GA >> > > >10. Alex Goolsby, student, Colgate University, Hamilton, NY >> > > >11. Aisha K. McGriff, North Carolina School of Science and Math >> > > >12. Amy Brushwood, North Carolina School of Science and Math >> > > >13. Mason Blackwell, student The College of William and Mary >> > > >14. Melinda Murphy, student, St. Mary's College of Maryland >> > > >15. Amy Raphael, student, University of Pennsylvania >> > > >16. Nancy Adleman, student, Stanford University >> > > >17. Paul Bodnar, student, Stanford University >> > > >18. Kunal Bajaj, student, University of Pennsylvania >> > > >19. Sharon Seltzer, student, University of Pennsylvania >> > > >20. Sugirtha Vivekananthan, student, University of Pennsylvania >> > > >21. Ann Wang, student, University of Pennsylvania >> > > >22. Seth Resler, student, Brown University >> > > >23. Leslie Ching, student, Brown University >> > > >24. Sylvia Barbut, student, Carnegie Mellon University >> > > >25. Karri Plotkin, student, Carnegie Mellon University >> > > >26. Kamilla Chaudh, student, Emory University >> > > >27. Jon Gordon,student,Princeton University >> > > >28. Nadine Knight, student, Princeton University >> > > >27. Erica Amianda, student, Johns Hopkins University >> > > >30. Rachel Pletcher, student, Johns Hopkins University >> > > >31. Janet Aardema, student, Davidson College >> > > >32. Kelly Kiefer, student, Davidson College >> > > >33. Jane Ruschky, student, Davidson College >> > > >34. Courtney Pace, student, Davidson College >> > > >35. Allison Patten, student, Northwestern University >> > > >36. Chad Ballentine, student, Franklin Road Academy >> > > >37. Allison Patten, student, Northwestern University >> > > >38. Rachel Allen, student, Rhodes College >> > > >39. Mary Rose Herbert, student, Guilford College >> > > >40. Christie Todd, student, Rhodes College >> > > >41. Athena Petropoulos, Rhodes College >> > > >42. Kathryn Hoang, student, Rhodes College >> > > >43. Lan To, student, Rhodes College >> > > >44. Ben Hagy, student, Reed College >> > > >45. Stephanie Marrs, student, University of Pennsylvania >> > > >46. Meg Smith, student, Rice University >> > > >47. Julian Zinn, student, University of Texas >> > > >48. Adam Talianchich, student, University of Texas >> > > >49. Michael GLazner, student, Southwestern Universirty >> > > >50. Katherine Rainwater, student, Southwestern University >> > > >51. Will O'Brien, student, Southwestern University >> > > >52. Meridith McConnell, student, Southwestern University >> > > >53. Amy Cassata, student, Trinity University >> > > >54. Heather Hanchett, student, Trinity University >> > > >55. Mike Elsner, student, Trinity University, San Antonio >> > > >56. ND Victor Carsrud, student, University of Texas Medical >> > > >Branch,Galveston >> > > >57. Michael Eisenstein, Engineer, Dallas, TX >> > > >58. Tehmina Banatwala, English Teacher, Houston, TX >> > > >59. Paula Leigh Cox, Account Executive, San Antonio, TX >> > > >60. Jennifer Franks, Account executive, San Antonio, TX >> > > >61. Mike Mineo, student, UT medical school, Houston, TX >> > > >62. Andre de Launay, Amer. Grad. School of Intl.Mgmt, Glendale, AZ >> > > >63. Tawne Bachus, Thunerbird, the American Grad School of Intl. >> > > >Mgmt., Glendale, AZ. >> > > >64. Ty Bachus, graphic designer, Herndon, VA >> > > >65. Thomas Inskip, software engineer, Washington, DC. >> > > >66. Dana Hollish, Green Seal >> > > >67. Neil Payne, St. Mary's College, MD >> > > >68. Douglas G. Davis, Gainesville, Fl. >> > > >69. Paula Garfinkle, Potomac, MD >> > > >70. Jeff Boodman, Falls Church, VA >> > > >71. Erica Sangster, Graduate School of Design, Cambridge MA >> > > >72. Nathalia Glickman, Graduate student, University of Oregon, >> > > >Eugene, OR. >> > > >73. Chee Chan, Ex-Pat, Singapore >> > > >74. Justin Tan, University of Toronto, Canada >> > > >75. Sue Burrows, McMaster University, Hamilton, Canada >> > > >76. Kelly Cox, York University, Toronto, Canada >> > > >77. Amanda Holt, Ryerson Polytechnic University, Toronto, Canada >> > > >78. Sara Fisher, University of Guelph, Guelph, Canada >> > > >79. Elliot Salmons, Ryerson Polytechnic University, Toronto, Canada >> > > >80. Dori Skye, Ryerson Polytechnic University, Toronto, Canada >> > > >81. Jana Atkins, York University, Toronto, Canada >> > > >82. Joshua Engel, McGill University, Montreal, Canada >> > > >83. Haim Gorodzinsky, McGill University, Montreal, Canada >> > > >84. Melissa Medley, Loyola University Chicago, IL >> > > >85. Kim Puhr, Loyola University Chicago, IL >> > > >86. Lena Dukic, Chicago, IL >> > > >87. Betsy Greer, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC >> > > >88. Lisa Thompson, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC >> > > >89. Ryan Emanuel, Duke University, Durham, NC >> > > >90. Gautham Venkat, University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA >> > > >91. Christina Varughese, u of penn, phila, pa >> > > >92. John Varghese, student,University of Md at Baltimore County >> > > >93. Jason Putsche, student, University of Md at Baltimore County >> > > >94. Melissa Koponen, student, St John's University, Queens, NY >> > > >95. Peter C. Frank, student, New York Law School, New York, NY >> > > >96. Mark J. Bousquet, student, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, NY >> > > >97. Roberta E. Chase, student, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, NY >> > > >98. David A. Phillips, student, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, >> > > >NY >> > > >99. James E. Charbonneau, student, Virginia Tech, VA >> > > >100. Sara M. Eells, student, Virginia Tech, VA >> > > >101. Courtney Reiter, student, Virginia Tech, VA >> > > >102. Larissa Buccolo, student, Virginia Tech, VA >> > > >103. Amanda Hill, student, Indiana University, IN >> > > >104. Tony Grimes, student, Indiana University, IN >> > > >105. Laurie Metzger, student, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN >> > > >106. Amy Smith, student, University of Maryland, College Park, MD >> > > >107. Michelle Crispino, student, University of Maryland, College >> > > >Park, MD >> > > >108. Antonella Cavallo, student, University of Maryland, College >> > > >Park, MD >> > > >109. Ranjana Varghese, student, University of Maryland, College >> > > >Park, MD >> > > >110. Jennifer McCloskey, student, University of Maryland, College >> > > >Park, MD >> > > >111. Jenni DuBreuil, student, Salisbury State University, MD >> > > >112. Greg Zapiec, student, Salisbury State University, MD >> > > >113. Helen Woods, student, Salisbury State University, MD >> > > >114. Gary Bringman, student, Salisbury, State University, MD >> > > >115. Ben Martell, student, Noble & Greenough,MA >> > > >116. Meagan Rock, student, Noble & Greenough, MA >> > > >117. Melissa Marotto, student, Walnut Hill School for the >> > > >Performing >> > > >Arts, MA >> > > >118. Steven E. Carver, human being, Grandfather, Harley Rider, "the >> > > >Hill," MA >> > > >119. Virginia Batson, student, Tulane University, LA >> > > >120. Angelynn Grant, graphic designer, Cambridge, MA >> > > >121. Jack Woker, business owner, Everett, MA >> > > >122. Jeff Flagg, staff, University of Texas at Austin, and parent >> > > >123. Mary Ann Pitzer, staff, University of Tx at Austin, and >> > > >parent. >> > > >124. Jessica S. Pease, staff, University of Texas at Austin, and >> > > >child that >> > > >learned to read from watching Sesame Street & other PBS >> > > >productions. >> > > >125. Kathryn Samec, staff, University of Texas at Austin, and >> > > >parent. >> > > >126. Jennifer Gill, staff, Univ. of TX at Austin, parent >> > > >127. Bob Gill, Berkeley California, parent. >> > > >128. David B. Gill, Seattle WA, parent, veterinarian >> > > >129. Karelle A. Meleo, Seattle WA, parent, veterinarian >> > > >130. Mike Marder, veterinarian, NY >> > > >131. Mara Kurtz, graphic designer, NY >> > > >132. Sasha Kurtz, graphic designer, NY >> > > >133. Irene Kim, computer animator/designer, NY >> > > >134. Ignacio Ayestaran, computer animator/designer, NY >> > > >135. Steve Rittler, Illustrator/Computer Animator/Designer/Faculty, >> > > >Pratt >> > > >Institute, NYC, NY >> > > >136. Camille A. Cauti, Graduate Student/Instructor, Columbia >> > > >University, NYC, >> > > >NY >> > > >137. Kenneth Kim, Ass. Producer, Macmillan Digital USA, New York, >> > > >NY >> > > >138. Aaron Chung, Hoover Institution, Stanford University >> > > >139. Susanna Chung, Graduate School of Arts & Sciences, Columbia >> > > >University >> > > >140. Gary P. Smith, Teacher Consultant, KLCS-TV Los Angeles >> > > >141. John W. Benjamin, Chief Engineer/MIS KUAT TV Tucson, Az. >> > > >142. Cheryl L. Dimmick, Accountant, KUAT Communications Group, Tucson, AZ >> > > >143. Frances H. Janssen, Administrative Assistant, The University of AZ >> > > >144. Angie Toledo,Admin. Assistant, University of Arizona,Tucson,AZ >> > > >145. kendall alexander, office assistant, student and sesame street watcher >> > > >- it's not just for kids, you know!, university of arizona, tucson, az >> > > 146. Judy Grille, Acct Assoc, Univ of AZ >> > 147. Christina Mautz, Los Angeles, CA >> > 148. Randy Mautz, Los Angeles, CA > 149. Holly Bowyer, Pasadena, CA > 150. Charles Bowyer, Pasadena, CA 151. Eric Chang, Atlanta, GA 152. Celeste Chan-Wolfe -- Marriage, Family & Child Counselor, Los Angeles, CA -- What? And lose Frontline, Nova, and Red Dwarf?????? 153. Robert Wolfe, Producer, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, Los Angeles, CA 154. Peter Fogel, Marriage, Family & Child Counselor Sanfrancisco, CA From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 10:26:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA03323; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:26:15 -0700 Received: from xinet.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03290; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:26:08 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora by xinet.COM via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for id KAA03067; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:25:56 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:25:50 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Tony Rotundo Subject: Pager question (NRR) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'd like to get a pager. Just a simple deal, no voice mail yet. Does anyone have any suggestions on good companies with good prices, or is that an oximoron? Thanks! Tony From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 10:47:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA06341; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:47:03 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA06309; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:46:56 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id KAA20629; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:46:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606071746.KAA20629@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: Re: Moonpup and I are Fucked, BIG TIME!!!!!! To: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 10:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606071711.KAA13285@shellx.best.com> from "SDream" at Jun 7, 96 10:11:34 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Can you believe they broke up Ma Bell so there'd be "competition"? If there > was any real competition, Pac Bell wouldn't treat it's customers like this... pactel: "Okay, your phone service should be up and running by Weds" me: "What? Thats 6 days away, can't you do it any sooner?" pactel: "No." me: "I will even pay for quicker service" pactel: "No. You can get all mad and hang up on me, but you will end up just calling me back. Please be patient" true story, -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 11:31:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA11530; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:31:06 -0700 Received: from alumnae.caltech.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA11508; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:30:59 -0700 Received: (from lenchang@localhost) by alumnae.caltech.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA02452; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chinley L. Chang" Message-Id: <199606071829.LAA02452@alumnae.caltech.edu> Subject: Re: Basics To: polo@eden.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: from "polo@eden.com" at Jun 7, 96 04:25:04 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > Michal Migurski asks: > > >Methinks I'll be heading to Basics... > > > >who else? > > Me!! > > Hugz, > -Chet > I'll be there! Short asian guy with either a jester's cap or a grey hat on, say hi! I'll have stickers and goodies :) Smiles, Chin From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 11:31:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA11622; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:31:55 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA11595; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:31:48 -0700 Received: from scv1.apple.com (A17-128-100-119.apple.com [17.128.100.119]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id LAA15112; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:31:32 -0700 Received: from [17.130.21.181] (kip-1-181.apple.com [17.130.21.181]) by scv1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA14270; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:34:30 -0700 Message-Id: <199606071834.LAA14270@scv1.apple.com> Subject: Re: Moonpup and I are Fucked, BIG TIME!!!!!! Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:32:22 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "Troy Sheets" , "SDream" cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk When a company has a monopoly on the market (Pac Bell, TCI, PG&E, etc...), the idea of *Good* customer service is completely thrown out the window. They dont have to be nice to you, or cater your every needs, because they know that no matter what, they're going to get your hard earned money anways. -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 11:32:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA11812; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:32:48 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA11747; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:32:38 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id LAA05353; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:32:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:32:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199606071832.LAA05353@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: polo@eden.com (-* POLO *-) From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: Re: Ameba's Web Page Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk It should be OK now, alan just added abunch of frames and moving gifs so if you ain't usin Netscape 2.x well... you ain't. >Is it just me or is Ameba's web page acting screwey? > >Hugz, >-Chet > >---- >he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal > of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 11:35:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA12072; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:35:47 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA12058; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:35:42 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id LAA24385; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606071835.LAA24385@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Rick Riffle Subject: BSP Free Live Ambient Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Once again, RE: will be performing live at RAW tonight. We're probably going to take a break for a few weeks after tonight. Pieces of my car keep breaking off from loading the speakers. RAW Living Foods 1224 9th Avenue at Lincoln San Francisco 8:00 - 11:30 pm From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 11:38:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA12420; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:38:14 -0700 Received: from bethe.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA12363; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:37:53 -0700 Received: by bethe.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD2.05) id AA20096; Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:37:01 PDT From: alves@bethe.ucdavis.edu (David Alves) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 11:37:01 PDT Message-Id: <9606071837.AA20096@bethe.ucdavis.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: bugsy malone Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I still pine for Tallulah, vamp of the chorus and Fat Sam's girlfriend. Boring music and nubile club girls. Let me attempt to clarify, ComeUnity was awful. Dave From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 11:44:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA13039; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:44:25 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA13020; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:44:18 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id LAA21482 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:44:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606071844.LAA21482@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: Brian in the news... To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 11:44:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Heya, Just saw this blurb on c|net about Apache, the free server software heavily influenced by your very own sfraves list administrator and Hyperreal Head Hancho Brian B. It seems Netscape is jealous.... http://www.cnet.com/Content/News/Files/0,16,1504,00.html -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 14:10:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA28310; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:10:38 -0700 Received: from mail.ico.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA28296; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:10:30 -0700 Received: from starbase.starfishsoftware.com by mail.ico.net with SMTP (5.65/950621.1) id AA18984; Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:10:26 -0700 Message-Id: <9606072110.AA18984@mail.ico.net> Priority: urgent Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:07:00 -0700 From: Roy Feague Subject: Great Service To: sfraves X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Monopolies are great, huh? I talked to someone from Microsoft about a problem with a product (that I hadn't registered). The woman asked for my name, and then read off all this information about me for confirmation: address, type of computer, etc. I asked "How do you know all this about me?" Microsoft reps reply: "Resistance is futile." Be ascared. -Roy ---------- From: Troy Sheets[SMTP:tsheets@xanadu.cyborganic.net] Sent: Friday, June 07, 1996 11:40 AM To: SDream Cc: sfraves Subject: Re: Moonpup and I are Fucked, BIG TIME!! > Can you believe they broke up Ma Bell so there'd be "competition"? If there > was any real competition, Pac Bell wouldn't treat it's customers like this... pactel: "Okay, your phone service should be up and running by Weds" me: "What? Thats 6 days away, can't you do it any sooner?" pactel: "No." me: "I will even pay for quicker service" pactel: "No. You can get all mad and hang up on me, but you will end up just calling me back. Please be patient" true story, -troy -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 14:33:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA00770; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:33:16 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA00751; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:33:08 -0700 Received: from webe.hooked.net (moonpup@webe.hooked.net [206.80.6.44]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA06466 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by webe.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id OAA18009; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606072134.OAA18009@webe.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: RE: Astrology or Coincidence? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Erik wrote: > >Astrology or Coincidence? > I don't know... but I just can't understand coincidence some time. Makes >me think that it's not. But then what is it? > >By the way... If anyone wants a fucking great hair cut... go to this guy. >Maybe he can read your soul, too... like he seemed to read mine. > > > > I'm sure some of it was astrology but I think you probably met this person Greg because he was someone you were supposed to me for whatever the reason. If you ever get the chance read the book Celestine Prophecy. It has some pretty interesting ideas regarding coincidences. It goes on to explain how these coincidences are not coincidences at all but rather meaningful things that were supposed to happen and with good reason. I have recently tried to open myself up more to the spiritual world through reading and talking with other people. Since then, strange things have happened to me although I think I always had it in me. I just didn't really know it was there. I've had dreams of the future and of people dying and when I wake up it is usually happening or about to happen. I also have been able to hear people say things before they say them. I'm not psychic by any means, but I believe we all have this ability, we just have to learn to understand it. The aborginal people in Australia are huge believers of the ability to speak without words. For me, all of these things are connected. We were afterall, roaming spirits who jumped into bodies to come down and enjoy the pleasures of earth. It makes perfect sense that there are incidences such as the one Erik described where we run into people and feel strange connections. Anyone else care to input? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 14:37:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA01209; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:37:06 -0700 Received: from odin.community.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA01201; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:37:03 -0700 Received: from n160.solano.community.net (n160.solano.community.net [140.174.119.160]) by odin.community.net with SMTP id OAA00516; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:37:02 -0700 Received: by n160.solano.community.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB547E.B5C946A0@n160.solano.community.net>; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:36:27 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB547E.B5C946A0@n160.solano.community.net> From: b e n c h u n To: "'sfraves'" , "'Roy Feague'" Subject: billgatus of borg (was: Great Service) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:36:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Roy Feague wrote: >Monopolies are great, huh? I talked to someone from Microsoft about a >problem with a product (that I hadn't registered). The woman asked for >my name, and then read off all this information about me for >confirmation: address, type of computer, etc. I asked "How do you know >all this about me?" Microsoft reps reply: "Resistance is futile." see the may 1996 issue of Boardwatch magazine (www.boardwatch.com) for one of my all-time favorite covers: billgatus of borg. as roy says, "resistance is futile... you will be assimilated" b e n c h u n ben_chun@community.net http://community.net/~ben_chun/ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 14:53:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA02474; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:53:59 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA02468; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:53:56 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA18041 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 14:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Basics (look4me,411?) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I've pretty much decided I want to head to Basics tommorow night... SO: I can be recognized quickly and effectively by the black n' white striped stockings sticking out from under my roomy blue shorts, as well as a shiny blue shirt with a white collar (soccer shirt material stuff?)... there's also a relatively recent photo of me on my web page (URL in my .sig file). There's a bunch of you I've been waiting to meet; say hi! Question: can anyone hook me up with a ride? I'm still not sure how I'm getting there... -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 15:00:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA03123; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:00:10 -0700 Received: from crt.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA03113; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:00:06 -0700 Received: from lowsh (207.92.18.100) by crt.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:06:44 +0000 Message-ID: <31B852FC.4DF@beatbox.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 17:04:12 +0100 From: beatkeeper Organization: www.beatbox.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: testies Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk testies, testies, 1, 2, 3... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 15:36:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA06538; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:36:20 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA06526; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:36:16 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA25652; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:36:13 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:36:13 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: going to Light-Carlos' Bday Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi everyone. A group of us are going to check out Carlos' bday. It's listed in the calendar if anyone is interested!! Dubtribe will be playing live. That ought to be cool!! Anyway, if any of you sfravers venture out to this party, I'll be easy to spot tonight. I'll have on a knee-length silver dress with shoulder straps. I will have on VERY silver sneakers that are supposed to glow in the dark. I'm giving these things their trial run tonight, so we'll see if they really do glow!! I'm about 5'4" with brown hair and eyes!. I shall be dancing wildly, so look for the streak of silver jammin' next to you!! Have fun all of you that are going to Basics. I bet it will be a blast. Sorry to say I won't be in attendance. ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 16:30:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA12661; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:30:45 -0700 Received: from elaine17.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA12647; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:30:37 -0700 Received: (from starchld@localhost) by elaine17.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA04328; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:30:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Kodama Message-Id: <199606072330.QAA04328@elaine17.Stanford.EDU> Subject: Re: BSP Free Live Ambient To: rdriffle@ucdavis.edu (Rick Riffle) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606071835.LAA24385@franc.ucdavis.edu> from "Rick Riffle" at Jun 7, 96 11:35:14 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk is there any age-limit thing at RAW? (21+?) this is probably a dumb question (sorry!) but i'd hate to drive all the way to sf just to find out i'm bummed. thanks, matt. -- |=======================================================================| | | | _Query_ : How contrive not to waste one's time? | | | | _Answer_: By being fully aware of it all the while. Ways in which | | this can be done: By spending one's days on an uneasy chair | | in a dentist's waiting-room; by remaining on one's balcony | | all of a Sunday afternoon; by listening to lectures in a | | language one doesn't know; by traveling by the longest and | | least-convenient train routes, and of course standing all | | the way; by lining up at the box-office of theaters and | | and then not buying a seat; and so forth. | | | | - albert camus, _la peste_ | | | |=======================================================================| -starchld@leland.stanford.edu--the mothership can be reached at 493-4099- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 16:42:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA13616; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:42:14 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA13605; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:42:09 -0700 From: Czefir@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA23702 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:41:40 -0400 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:41:40 -0400 Message-ID: <960607194139_130270823@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: what's up with this? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey all!! I just saw in the paper that tickets for a Underworld/Orbital show on the 24th are going on sale. Anyone know anything about this? It's at the Fillmore which doesn't seem conducive to dancing but, I don't know. See ya this weekend, Czefir Megan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 17:10:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA16050; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:10:51 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA16041; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:10:45 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA05257; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:10:41 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Melissa Wong To: polo@eden.com cc: PLUR Kittens Subject: Re: Basic(s) Info In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I have a mailer with this info: Tony, Josh, Garth, Doran, Doc Martin, Astral Matrix(live), and DJ Brownie. ************************************************************** Go to the mountains and the oceans and the forest, go naked in the summertime that you may regain the old joy and love gladly and freely under the stars. -John Whiteside Parson ************************************************************** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 17:20:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA17015; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:20:14 -0700 Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA17009; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:20:12 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Flux Television Reply-To: Flux Television To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Underworld, Orbital in SF Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk from the www.flux.net site via bgp: Just confirmed! Underworld, Orbital, Space Time Continuum, plus DJ Darren Price at San Francisco's historic Fillmore on June 24. Tickets on sale this Sunday, June 9. Let's hope they print a Fillmore poster! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 17:28:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA17710; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:28:16 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA17684; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:28:12 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id RAA01984; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:28:09 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: Flux Television cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Underworld, Orbital in SF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Just confirmed! Underworld, Orbital, Space Time Continuum, plus DJ Darren > Price at San Francisco's historic Fillmore on June 24. Tickets on Lets hope DJ Darren is Darren Emerson from The Underworld, cuz he RIPS SHIT UP... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 18:02:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA20385; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:02:34 -0700 Received: from sparky.chiron.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA20380; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:02:30 -0700 Received: (from mailmand@localhost) by sparky.chiron.com (v8_jeh/v8_jeh) id SAA05316 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.chiron.com(165.140.29.1) by sparky.chiron.com via smap (V1.3) id sma005300; Fri Jun 7 18:01:34 1996 Received: from cc.chiron.com (cc.chiron.com [165.140.1.129]) by mercury.chiron.com (v8_jeh/v8_jeh) with SMTP id SAA28882 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ccMail by cc.chiron.com (SMTPLINK V2.10.08) id AA834195455; Fri, 07 Jun 96 14:15:36 PST Date: Fri, 07 Jun 96 14:15:36 PST From: "John Robertson" Message-Id: <9605078341.AA834195455@cc.chiron.com> To: SFRaves@hyperreal.com Subject: Ouch !! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Folks, Moan_mode on; I've been planning for weeks to party BIG time this w/e. For various reasons (Work - Doh !!) I haven't been out since Origin which seems like an awfully long time ago. You can imagine my sense of exitement & expectation !! Then last night I came a cropper on the footie pitch & gave my knee one hellava twist. Ouch !! Moan_mode off; Anyways, I'm gonna hobble out regardless (whatta guy) so whats recommended for tonight ?? Altered States is "oop norf" in Marin while Life looks like the Jerrold Diner - not one of my fave venues !! Suggestions welcome .. Also, if there's a Sunset going on Sunday I'd really like to hit my first outdoor party. Could some kind soul please send me the info number ? Ta !! Well 'nuff for now. Hope everybody has a wonderfull w/e & if you see somebody hopping (on one leg that is..) frantically across the dance floor say hello !! Cheers, From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 18:39:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA23289; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:39:06 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA23277; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:39:03 -0700 Received: from v-site by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id SAA06448; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:39:00 -0700 Message-ID: <31B8D9A6.6B2E@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 18:38:46 -0700 From: ameba Organization: ameba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: DOWN TO EARTH get down!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello to everyone, I'm here to invite all who are interested to the Down To Earth party SaturdaY, June 8th. It will be located at a beautiful performance art, live-work space in San Francisco. Musically, the artists performing will be: John Howard Little t (she is from Vancouver) Galen Pete Moss (he is from Boston) Solar Laron Visually: Mark Johns will be doing slide and film projections Also, DREAM CIRCUS will be doing live artistic performances throughout the night. Admission is $7 before 11pm & $10 thereafter. IT WILL BE FUN!!!! PLEASE CALL (415)985-7109 for more information THANK YOU HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE, dOWN TO eARTH From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 18:53:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA24171; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:53:20 -0700 Received: from netcom20.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA24166; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:53:17 -0700 Received: (from cami@localhost) by netcom20.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id SAA05233; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:53:15 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 18:53:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Cami Edwards Subject: Re: my first music experience To: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606071709.KAA11543@shellx.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk A little late, but I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon cuz mine is so embarrassing. My first concert was Sean Cassidy, his Born Late tour (obviously I wasn't born late enough:). I was 7 and I had seventh row seats, and thought he was the shit. In junior high we used to go dancing every friday night at Studio K and Cloud 9 at Knott's Berry Farm, to such choons as You Spin Me(Dead or Alive), White Lines, When I Hear Music, etc... Sure glad raves came along and saved me. Cheers*** Cami From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 19:07:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA25091; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:07:28 -0700 Received: from dub-img-7.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA25082; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:07:25 -0700 Received: by dub-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id WAA24099; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:06:40 -0400 Date: 07 Jun 96 22:03:39 EDT From: Leslie Ayres <71165.755@CompuServe.COM> To: "sfraves@hyperreal.com" Subject: My first musical experience... Message-ID: <960608020339_71165.755_GHL82-1@CompuServe.COM> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I love this topic, thanks to whoever started it... it's a trip to see how different our beginnings can be, isn't it? OK, first, remember I'M OLD, ok? My first memory of an album was my parent's, I was about six, and it was Julie London, a sultry singer a'la Peggy Lee, and the album had this close-up picture of her, hair all long, sexy and shiny, cleavage to die for -- and she sang "Fever" ... you know, "everybody's got the fever, that is something we all know" ... I LUUUUVVVEED HER! The first song I ever bought was a '45 single -- I heard it on the radio and worked hard to find it, even though it wasn't even really released yet ... called "I Want Candy" with lots of bouncy drums and rhythm. I think someone redid it lately, and I still like it. I'm still a sap for good romantic sultry singers (Cassandra Wilson, Etta James) and for good rhythms! Isn't it amazing how clear these things are in our memories, I can remember sitting in the living room in Tennessee (yes, I'm originally from the South) dreamily listening to Julie London. Leslie : ) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 19:38:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA27125; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:38:35 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA27119; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:38:33 -0700 Received: from unknown (crl14.crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA20585 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 7 Jun 1996 19:38:00 -0700 From: davidmin@crl.com (David Minuk) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Underworld, Orbital in SF Date: Sat, 08 Jun 1996 02:28:07 GMT Message-Id: <31b8e4f4.78818096@mail.crl.com> X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk And according to someone on alt.rave: >> Yes! The Chemical Brothers are scheduled to play at the >> Trocadero Transfer, 520 4th, in San Francisco (phone: 415-995-4600) >> on Friday, June 21st at 8pm. Tickets are $15. I would call >> the venue to confirm this. > >>-- >> LOU!!! >> lwdantas@ucdavis.edu > Looks like a busy week... David >On Fri, 7 Jun 1996 17:20:11 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: > >>from the www.flux.net site via bgp: >> >>Just confirmed! Underworld, Orbital, Space Time Continuum, plus DJ Darren >>Price at San Francisco's historic Fillmore on June 24. Tickets on >>sale this Sunday, June 9. >>Let's hope they print a Fillmore poster! >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Minuk(davidmin@crl.com) WWW: My URL is http://www.crl.com/~davidmin/ This website is not yet rated. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Minuk(davidmin@crl.com) WWW: My URL is http://www.crl.com/~davidmin/ This website is not yet rated. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 20:19:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA00363; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:19:12 -0700 Received: from elroy.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA00338; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:19:06 -0700 Received: by elroy.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id UAA06356; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:19:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Uncle Noah X-Sender: ez031733@elroy.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Speaking of Knott's.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone remember when Knott's thre their own 'rave' in like 87 or 88? maybe I'm just getting old... :D --+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+--- "Uncle" Noah Apodaca - napodaca@ucdavis.edu Student, Disc Jockey, Resident Advisor Listen to the Uncle Noah TV Show The best in Techno and House music Saturdays, 3-5am only on KDVS 90.3fm in Davis From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 20:53:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA02364; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:53:13 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA02358; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:53:10 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca21-12.ix.netcom.com [204.30.65.76]) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA20767 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:52:36 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:52:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199606080352.UAA20767@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Basics To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well, I guess I'm going to have to get my ass outta bed and got this one. I'll be lookin forward to meeting most of ya at basics!! My costume: Black and White Dr. Suess Hat, Alien Head Necklace, SFR Laminate, Two glowsticks. Come say hi! I'll have treats for ya!! Adam R.Lunatic OH BTW!!! E.S.W/H.O.B.M/H.B.B.T.U.K./C.C.C Really means, eternalspiritWillHiggs/healourbrotherMalachy/communionconsciousclothing I got that from the flyer itself!! =)~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 21:53:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA06806; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:53:53 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA06801; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:53:50 -0700 Received: from [206.15.64.122] (sf-tty11-ppp.well.com [206.15.64.110]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA06078 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:53:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: leftjab@mail.well.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 21:59:32 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: leftjab@well.com (leftjab) Subject: Fillmore is rad! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk the reconstructed fillmore is one of my favorite "concert" venues, and two months ago when i saw Bruce Hornsby (joined by Phil Lesh & Bob Weir of the Grateful Dead) on a Friday and then Lush on the following monday, i thought it would be a great space for a rave in a perfect world . . . the dance floor is wood and round, but not that big -- but there will be people dancing on the carpet, in the halls, etc. i'd imagine 'cause it's usually crowded . . . there is a dj booth in the back of the main floor, maybe elevated a step or two, a little more separation than usual but not a booth upstairs by any means the upstairs balcony or the poster/dining room could be great chill spaces but the key is the trippy purple light chandeliers and mirror ball . . . mmm. . and the fillmore staff is a lot more chill than many you'll find free apples still :) and posters sometimes (chant for black light hopefully) we'll see if the crowd will spend enough at the bars to make it worthwhile for them peace, leftjab From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 7 22:37:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA09431; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:37:48 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA09425; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:37:46 -0700 Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA16552; Fri, 7 Jun 1996 22:37:15 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960608053725.00c5f1a8@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 22:37:25 -0700 To: polo@eden.com (-* POLO *-) From: "THX1138" Subject: Re: Ameba's Web Page Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey You!!!! If your gonna talk about a web page at least include the properly formated URL location in the body of the post so we can click on it from within our e-mail readers and go. Yes. it's a very anal cyber request, thanks. Peace THX1138 At 06:35 AM 6/7/96 -0500, you wrote: >Is it just me or is Ameba's web page acting screwey? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 00:28:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA17911; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:23 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA17895; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:21 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA14732; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: Flux Television From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: Underworld, Orbital in SF Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >from the www.flux.net site via bgp: > >Just confirmed! Underworld, Orbital, Space Time Continuum, plus DJ Darren >Price at San Francisco's historic Fillmore on June 24. Tickets on >sale this Sunday, June 9. >Let's hope they print a Fillmore poster! what about the orb? are they still comin' up? -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 00:28:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA17927; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:28 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA17922; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:26 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id AAA22877 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 00:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: My first musical experience... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Until I hit seventh grade, I would swear on a stack of bibles that music just wasn't my thing and I didn't like any of it... backlash from my mom's intense musical interests, I suppose (she now manages a chamber orchestra in Poland). Then it was a mess of shit, from MC Hammer to BBD to Metallica (freshman year headbanger daze =P ). Sophomore year, I discovered ELECTRONIC music. Skinny Puppy (+ other industrial, none of which could match the power of a fresh SP track) was my thing until just recently when I discovered jungle and trance and all kinds of other goodies. SP still rocks, tho'. Any other industrialist-turned-ravers-but-still-kinda- industrialists out there? Thank you, mr. synth inventor man! mindless midnite ramblings; gotta get up early tommorrow. =| -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 08:13:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA19042; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:13:42 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA19030; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:13:34 -0700 Received: (from raygun@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA17819; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:13:32 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 08:13:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Reagan Reid To: michal migurski cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: My first musical experience... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Oh yeah! I'm still a Puppy Head!! Their very last CD :"the Process" is a weird one. Imagine that them weird:). You can actually make out the voices and the words this time around:). I saw there Last Rights tour and it was the most visual concernt I have *ever* been too. Reagan On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, michal migurski wrote: > > Then it was a mess of shit, from MC Hammer to BBD to Metallica (freshman > year headbanger daze =P ). Sophomore year, I discovered ELECTRONIC music. > Skinny Puppy (+ other industrial, none of which could match the power of a > fresh SP track) was my thing until just recently when I discovered jungle > and trance and all kinds of other goodies. > > SP still rocks, tho'. Any other industrialist-turned-ravers-but-still-kinda- > industrialists out there? > > Thank you, mr. synth inventor man! > > mindless midnite ramblings; gotta get up early tommorrow. > > =| > > -m. > > > 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 > | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | > | for that whole body thirst situation | > | | > | (- Portfolio! -) | > | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | > | | > | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | > | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | > | | > | Michal Migurski | > | (408) 264-6604 | > | | > |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| > | | > 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 09:41:43 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA23920; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:41:43 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA23915; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:41:39 -0700 Received: from 206.80.9.81 (also-17.ppp.hooked.net [206.80.9.81]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00859 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:43:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <31B94B0C.D24@hooked.net> Date: Sat, 08 Jun 1996 09:42:36 +0000 From: stephan & Lydia X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfr Subject: Re: My first musical experience... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk It was the Partridge Family for me. I wanted so badly to be just like Lori Partridge, she was soooo coool!....and I did become a successful keyboardist and published songwriter! I just recently found an old Partridge Family album in a thrift store and it brought it all back for me while listening to it again. When people ask me about my musical influences they usually have to laugh. Seems like the in thing was to say the Beatles, Stones, Iggy, Velvet Underground or something like that. Nope not me! ;-) Lydia Holly From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 09:42:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA23970; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:42:08 -0700 Received: from netcom13.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA23965; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:42:06 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora (jsl@localhost.netcom.com [127.0.0.1]) by netcom13.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA27641; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:42:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:42:03 -0700 X-Sender: jsl@localhost Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: jsl@netcom.com (John S. Lee) Subject: UG tonite... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Wanna go? E-mail me to know. An alternative to other more "commercial" events. Peace, John From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 09:56:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA24874; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:56:03 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA24858; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:56:00 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA02399; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:55:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:55:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: fun with jobs... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk When you go to work all spun out from E, you deal with customers a lot better :) See you all at Basics tonight... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 09:58:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA25133; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:58:48 -0700 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA25128; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:58:45 -0700 Received: (from ccat@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA18700; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:58:42 -0700 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Message-Id: <199606081658.JAA18700@netcom14.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Speaking of Knott's.... To: napodaca@ucdavis.edu (Uncle Noah) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 09:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: from "Uncle Noah" at Jun 7, 96 08:19:01 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1113 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yes, I actually had an interesting few days before that (1991?) rave.. which turned out to have a lot of problems because of some dumb actions by the LA promoters... in a back-and-forth dance with the Knotts food scientists over my smart drinks.. They finally approved them for sale when I showed them all my toxicology data, and a bunch of stuff on tyrosine being useful to help people quit methamphetamine... The Knotts family's son was actually a raver, and the family are born-again Christians.. It was huge, something like 19,000 people.. but a lot of people crashed the gate.. No, I wasn't there.... Chris Beaumont > > > Does anyone remember when Knott's thre their own 'rave' in like 87 or 88? > maybe I'm just getting old... > :D > > --+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+----+--+--- > "Uncle" Noah Apodaca - napodaca@ucdavis.edu > Student, Disc Jockey, Resident Advisor > Listen to the Uncle Noah TV Show > The best in Techno and House music > Saturdays, 3-5am only on KDVS 90.3fm in Davis > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 10:17:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA26532; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:17:42 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA26519; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:17:38 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca12-13.ix.netcom.com [199.182.128.141]) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA12173; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:17:03 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:17:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199606081717.KAA12173@dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Re: fun with jobs... To: John Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You wrote: > > >When you go to work all spun out from E, you deal with customers a lot >better :) HOW SO VERY TRUE!!!!! You look at them like they are spun out on E too! haha! Adam R.Lunatic =)~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 10:23:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA26922; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:23:15 -0700 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA26917; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:23:12 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora (jsl@localhost.netcom.com [127.0.0.1]) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA07164; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:23:07 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 10:23:07 -0700 X-Sender: jsl@localhost Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: jsl@netcom.com (John S. Lee) Subject: Sacred Ground Rave??? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Something about a Rhythm Society or something to that effect. BTW - A bit of history. The first Rhythm Society event that I can recall was started by Preston and Robert Jesse, back in the good ol days of 1992. All I know is I had a great times. Now usually I am ALL about the brew and boo at a club. Used to cigarettes odor, used to rude people bumping into you, I am used to so much "noise" like this at a club, sometime you regret going out for one reason or another. Either I'm mad becuase I HAVE to do the laundry the next day to rid my house of the stench of last night nicotine bash, or mad becuase I couldn't catch a groove becuase of thisa or that. Well, there was NONE of that at the rhythm society, and you know what. I had a GREAT time. Nope I didn't see the blue buddah, but I sure as shit caught a groove, and listened to some of my friends play some really good music. I came at about 12:10, and had to chug my beer becuase of guilt about drinikng booze in the Church (now, for a recovering Roman Catholic this shoulda been no problem. Hell, the preists I knew growing up were the worse sort of drunks I had ever witnessed. Red nosed bastards.....;) ). SO I found a dark unlit portion of the street, and began the age old ritual of chug-a-lugging all my pint before I went in. Time was critical because I wanted to hear Sub Commander Lycos rip it up on the dex. And there he was. The Sub Commander was doing the do, man...the music my man put together was fresh, and in general I really liked his style. He took his time to choose music and just rocked it. My man had mf's (can't curse, it's a church for g-d's sake) jumpin hootin' and hollerin. People were groovin' and movin'. I was so proud of my man for not only making others dance, but making me dance as well! I had to get a good buck or two in for my bro! Shit was on Commander. Let's do Flavor on the 29th! Nice one!!! Then an old nemesis went on, one DJ Ethan. Now, all of you know, if the shit is above 125, I'm literally dying. I can at least listen to the stuff, but for me if the BPM's are too high for me, it is harder to find my place. I guess practice makes perfect. Anyway Ethan did a really good job. He got in, adjusted his seatbelt, found his spot, and started to slam the hell outta the music. Excellent choices in music! He went to a house place and played some harder trance house, and some techno house I beleive. Anyway I liked it that Ethan slowed down a bit and I could hear where he was going. He really had some deep booty beats and really worked the music. I saw plenty of people going off...damn crackerjacks ;) (dman and hell are in the bible, it's ok to say these things :) ). Good set Ethan, liked the house touch! Then an old geezer hit the dex. I dunno what rock he came out from, but Markie worked Ehtans last record and stgarted to make mf's get their swirl on. Markie was soooo friggin smooth. Each time I've heard him recently, he has been spot on and rock solid. Friggin Markie was ripping it up. It was impossible not to catch some groove, and the people showed it. Excellent set! Friggin Markie, gotta love him!!! You go boy!!! I didn't stay for DJ Tracy's set, I wanted to but I had to go. Lotsa stuff to do today like get ready for the UG that is going on (where I'll be playing). All in all a great party, no friggin smoke, great vibe, some of the nicest people I've met in a while, and it was ALL 100% GOOD!!!! The saints of the church: Hooked up with Larry Ching, main man from the old skool, way back. Hey Larry! Finally, after YEARS, I met Micheal E. Clay! YO! We were reminissing and talking noise about the old days, old fights, going out, etc. It was great! It's so funny the things that people remember, and how people, even though they disagree, become friends. I just wish I coulda met you and others a while back. But I guess now is as good a time as any. Right on Mike! Already talked about my 3 friends on the dex. Saw Tracy & Mark... Met Andrea & Greg out here from Maine, welcome! (Greg <- very nice guy!, is looking for a roomie, if interested lemme know and I'll hook ya' up with the tel#). The dog, Preston, was in the house, got a chance to re-connect with my man. Don't need no shouts, cuz' we'll be hangin' out on Sunday.... OH YEAH!!! Hi Lee! Finally got to meet Janie. She's a great lady with a great sense of humor (and she can dance too!). Lee, you're the bomb, my man. It was great talking to you and re-connecting. I forget often how you are in real life, and I prefer the real Lee rather than the virtual one. Although the similarieites are striking, the real one is so much more fun! It was really great seeing you and Janie! I had a great time talking dancing and groovin' with you guys! Hey Monica & Tom!!! Long time no see! It was good talking to you and catching up. Even if it was near the bathrooms (which remained immaculate during teh whole show, RIHGT ON!). Other hokie dokes: Robert Jesse, I didn't say hi, but I sent some good vibes your way. Long time no see, next time I'll make a better effort to say hello. In my defense though you hardly stopped dancing. And rule #1 is "Don't disrespect the dance floor.", so I try not to talk to people while they are groovin' and you had the good groove on bro, didn't want to mess that up! This party was soooo postive, I won't even go into a few of the people who presented the most horrible violation of my olfactory senses (and by an informal poll, I was not the only one who took offense). I say now, and will always say, bathe before thoust rave, please. I know it mikght be a a challenge to some, but in fact what I propose is simple. 1. Turn on the water to your desired temprature, 2. Fill up the tub, or turn on the shower, 3. take some soap and rub it all over your body, 4. Rinse, 5. Use a dry towel and dry off. See, simple huh? I really don't know why people are not aware of their offenses, but oh well. The vibe of the party outweighed the stinky vibe 1000:1. I'm out, anyone I missed? Will be seeing you around the city tonite. Lotsa stuff to do this weekend, plenty of parties, Haight Street Crack fair (I'll be spinning some records somewhere along the street), a UG tonite. It's all good! Have a great weekend. I know I will. Geoff, THANKS for inviting me! Props to Ethan's sound system too! Man it sounded good! Peace & audi volkswagen porche 911, John From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 11:04:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA29111; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:04:06 -0700 Received: from ix10.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA29106; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:04:03 -0700 Received: from wck-ca9-16.ix.netcom.com by ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id LAA20649; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:01:23 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:01:23 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960607163329.2e4fe8fc@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: so WHAT is UP with the Basics voicemail? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Does *anybody* know what's going on with the Basics voicemail? I'm (in my usual fashion) starting to get a litle worried that something is amiss, cuz I've never seen this happen before. Anybody have any more current info than the info for the last Gathering? Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * \|/ * * * * --O-- * * * /|\ * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 14:59:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA15090; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:59:58 -0700 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA15081; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:59:55 -0700 Received: (from ausman@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA27666 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:59:59 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:59:59 -0700 From: James Ausman Message-Id: <199606082159.OAA27666@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: BSP - free party at my house Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I will be having a party at my house after the Haight Street Fair. I live at 110 Clayton St. (just across the panhandle from the Upper Haight) and it starts at 6 PM. A few friends will be DJ'ing. BYOB. Hugs, Jim From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 15:49:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA18163; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:49:24 -0700 Received: from emout18.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA18157; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:49:21 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout18.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA29198; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:48:47 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:48:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960608184846_322362222@emout18.mail.aol.com> To: shawna-@ix.netcom.com cc: Sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: so WHAT is UP with the Basics voicemail? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Thats just Martin, he waits till the last minute. The party is happening!:0 Jonathan I'll be there...Nawty Boy t-shirt and all!:) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 17:17:43 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA23473; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:17:43 -0700 Received: from redshift.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA23464; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:17:38 -0700 Received: from [165.227.94.108] (red108.redshift.com [165.227.94.108]) by redshift.com (8.7.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id RAA07196 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:17:37 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:22:20 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: tim@redshift.com (Tim Gotch) Subject: Re: My first musical experience... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk 93 For those of y'all into SP (I worship the ground they walk on, personally), check out Download. Download is the project that Cevin and Dwayne were working on just before Dwayne's death with Mark Spybey (former Zoviet France), DJ Philth and occasionally Genesis P. Orridge. Download is THE future of seriously twisted industrial dance (IMHO)...and on the ambient wierdness side, Cevin and Mark Spybey have another very cool project called Dead Voices on Air. Very strange, neat stuff. Love Tim 93/93 > Oh yeah! I'm still a Puppy Head!! Their very last CD :"the Process" >is a weird one. Imagine that them weird:). You can actually make out the >voices and the words this time around:). I saw there Last Rights tour and >it was the most visual concernt I have *ever* been too. > Reagan Tim Gotch tim@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~tim Hyper Design Technologies hdt@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~hdt 395 Del Monte Ctr. #128 Monterey, CA 93940 nothing is true, everything is permitted From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 17:57:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA26176; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:57:58 -0700 Received: from austria.it.earthlink.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA26170; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:57:55 -0700 Received: from [153.37.82.97] (pool047.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.111]) by austria.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA07205 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:57:38 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: Voice Mail Works : BASICS Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey family-- It was a hecktic week of all work and no play. But I have been blessed with some fortune and good vibes so I've decided to go out tonight. My friend Kidee from Socal-raves is up in the bay area and so I'm gonna take her to BASICS. She might be wearing furry overalls so go up and say hi. Me, well, I'll be wearing a purple (with little yellow strips) MadHatter hat, SF LAMINATE, Currious George shirt w/ blue jeans (all my laundry is dirty=3D=3D=3Doops bad netiquette, not suposed to discuss some one elses lau= ndry over email, especially if it's dirty...heeeheee). Might have a few glow sticks. Basics 4 yr Ann Tonight V.m. # 1.415.905.9629 Map point in S.F. F.8 Virgin location ******Great Musak******** Doran - love him he get's people off!! Doc Martain - haven't heard him in a year Astril Matrix - pa Brownie - notha Phat la dj The sf crew- Tony::Josh::Garth Hopfully I'll meet some a yous tonight Peace B W/ U Austin . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 18:04:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA26665; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:04:03 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA26619; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:03:56 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA00199 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: My first musical experience... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >93 >For those of y'all into SP (I worship the ground they walk on, personally), >check out Download. Download is the project that Cevin and Dwayne were I don't know... I've heard a lot of their side projects, but I don't think any of them have matched the dynamics of cEvin, Dwayne and Ogre working together, arguments and all. There isn';t much that gives me as much of a rush as old Puppy tracks like Centre Bullet or Assimilate r23 or Jackhammer. But I digress... this is a topic for a whole other 'nother mailing list. -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 18:56:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA29769; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:56:02 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA29754; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:55:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id SAA42623 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:55:56 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 18:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Basics!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'll be there as will a bunch of others! I'll be wearing a silk bright orange/green/etc. shirt (tacky but it feels great!) and have short very blond hair. See ya there & lotsa love! :) :) Paul :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 20:10:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA05023; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:10:48 -0700 Received: from ix10.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA05012; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:10:44 -0700 Received: from wck-ca8-18.ix.netcom.com by ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id UAA20150; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:08:02 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:08:02 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960608014008.35df6212@popd.ix.netcom.com> X-Sender: shawna-@popd.ix.netcom.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "hey, where am I?" Subject: Re: Basics!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >I'll be there as will a bunch of others! I'll be wearing a silk bright >orange/green/etc. shirt (tacky but it feels great!) and have short very >blond hair. Look for me too! I'll probably be wearing my SFRaves t-shirt with the old sfraves logo on it (or my grey tank top if it gets too hot) and jeans. I'll most likely have my bright green feather boa too, and I have got more glow-sticks than you can shake a glow-stick at. Boy did i go overkill on the glosticks folks, 20 count 'em *twenty* glowsticks, *six* different colors (red, green, blue, hot pink, yellow, and white!), and two sizes! *SOME*body *STOP* meeee! Love, Shawna *The god in me greets the god in you* * * * * * * * * * * * * * \|/ * * * * --O-- * * * /|\ * \O/ | _____/_\_____ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 20:21:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA05777; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:56 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA05772; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:53 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA08689; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id UAA02103; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:21:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: James Ausman cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: BSP - free party at my house In-Reply-To: <199606082159.OAA27666@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk when is the haight street fair?...is amoeba going to be doing something? * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, James Ausman wrote: > > I will be having a party at my house after the Haight Street Fair. > I live at 110 Clayton St. (just across the panhandle from the Upper > Haight) and it starts at 6 PM. A few friends will be DJ'ing. BYOB. > > Hugs, > Jim > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 21:31:21 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA09872; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 21:31:21 -0700 Received: from emout17.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA09867; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 21:31:17 -0700 From: Begroovy@aol.com Received: by emout17.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA01637 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:30:50 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:30:50 -0400 Message-ID: <960609003049_410250535@emout17.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: D.I.: a couple of miles from the man? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I think a mile is a good distance. The sound crews may want to think about pointing the sound systems away from camp? This may alleviate sound carrying problems for those (few?) that don't want to hear the turbo sound blaster 24 hours a day? In a message dated 96-06-07 01:51:19 EDT, SteveOSac@aol.com wrote: >Hmmm, I believe it was exactly one mile from the man last year, & that was a >hell of a walk, and as far as I know there were no sound bleed complaints. A >couple of miles would be really harsh on the pedestrians, and would open more >chance to additional people getting run over on the playa. >Just a thought, From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 21:40:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA10390; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 21:40:05 -0700 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA10383; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 21:40:02 -0700 From: Begroovy@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA06806 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:39:37 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:39:37 -0400 Message-ID: <960609003936_410253868@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Fillmore,dancing? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 96-06-07 19:45:33 EDT, you write: > It's at the >Fillmore which doesn't seem conducive to dancing but, I don't know. > > Fillmore not condusive to dancing? Thats kinda like saying the beach isn't condusive to sunbathing? This is one of my alltime favorite dance locations. I haven't been back since it reopened. I've been waiting for the right opportunity. This could be it? Have a great night, PEACE!! Cid From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 22:36:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA13612; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:36:30 -0700 Received: from ucmsj.vatech.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA13603; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:36:27 -0700 From: tim744@silicon.email.net Received: (from mm@localhost) by ucmsj.vatech.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id WAA16097 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:36:16 -0700 Received: by silicon.email.net (ucm/3.1) id AA15950.000; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:36:16 PDT To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:36:16 PDT Subject: Tonight Message-Id: <9606082236.S396318083@silicon.email.net> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Just wanted to tell everyone that I hope you all have a great time tonight. I'm staying in. I'm feeling no pain and really good from the pain killers the Doc. gave me. So, have a good time for me and anyone else that is staying in this weekend. Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 8 23:00:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA15124; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:00:55 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA15103; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:00:51 -0700 Received: (from raygun@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id XAA01437; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:00:47 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 23:00:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Reagan Reid To: michal migurski cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: My first musical experience... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Other side projects to check out are like Pigface, Tear Garden and Doubting Thomas( don't know if they were part of this are not). ;) Reagan On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, michal migurski wrote: > >93 > >For those of y'all into SP (I worship the ground they walk on, personally), > >check out Download. Download is the project that Cevin and Dwayne were > > I don't know... I've heard a lot of their side projects, but I don't think > any of them have matched the dynamics of cEvin, Dwayne and Ogre working > together, arguments and all. There isn';t much that gives me as much of a > rush as old Puppy tracks like Centre Bullet or Assimilate r23 or > Jackhammer. > > But I digress... this is a topic for a whole other 'nother mailing list. > > -m. > > > 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 > | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | > | for that whole body thirst situation | > | | > | (- Portfolio! -) | > | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | > | | > | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | > | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | > | | > | Michal Migurski | > | (408) 264-6604 | > | | > |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| > | | > 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 01:14:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA23671; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 01:14:05 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA23650; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 01:13:57 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uSfdB-0000GTC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 01:13 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 01:13:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: nw-raves@hyperreal.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: i am SO ANGRY!!!!!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I got home from a lovely day to find almost a THIRD of my cds GONE. from the shelf. nothing else. and my roomate's friend had been in the house. COINDCIDENCE? FUCK i'm so angry i could just tear a phone book in HALF!!! ARRRGH! sorry. i just need to rant. i'm getting the locks changed as soon as possible and throwing my roomate out if i don't see at LEAST the money, if not the cds. And calling the cops, in either case. but that doesn't change the fact that they're NOT HERE RIGHT NOW!!! he even took my Grateful Dead, man!!! what kind of sick bastard would do that to someone?? just been reminded of how precious our microcosm is, k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 02:31:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id CAA01925; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 02:31:24 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id CAA01920; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 02:31:21 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uSgq6-0002HgC; Sun, 9 Jun 96 02:31 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 02:31:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: nw-raves@hyperreal.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: i am SO ANGRY!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk okay ....... and an INSTANT UPDATE!!! My roommate came home about fifteen minutes after i posted that last message. He has offered to give me his $320 tax return to start to cover it. Since i told him that i would call the cops etc. if nothing happened he had not much choice ... also i am getting the locks changed and getting keys cut that say DO NOT COPY so he can't ever give one out. He told me he had no idea this might happen and i am inclined to believe him. He's also going to find out that i am NOT someone to cross lightly. Because ... i'm creative. >:) man, just when you think people in the world are getting better, eh? it amazes me how marvelous the rave community i inhabit really is ... k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 11:39:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA06615; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:39:04 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA06609; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:39:01 -0700 From: flux@well.com Received: from well.com (flux@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA00718 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from flux@localhost) by well.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA00129 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:38:57 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 11:38:57 -0700 Message-Id: <199606091838.LAA00129@well.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: If SIX was NINE Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk We just wanted to say that today is SIX-NINE-NINETY-SIX! (6/9/96) Go Down! love, michelle&james From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 12:43:43 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA10513; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:43:43 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA10502; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:43:38 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca22-04.ix.netcom.com [204.30.65.100]) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA22811 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:43:00 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:43:00 -0700 Message-Id: <199606091943.MAA22811@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Basics last night!! =)~ To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well, what can I say? THE VIBE WAS FUCKIN' BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!!!!! I hope you all had a blast just like me!!! I know that all the SFravers were having fun, because we are all a family and we made it that way! Love, Adam R.Lunatic =)~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 13:06:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA12235; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:06:35 -0700 Received: from crt.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA12227; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:06:32 -0700 Received: from lowsh (207.92.18.100) by crt.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Sun, 9 Jun 1996 15:13:12 +0000 Message-ID: <31BADB60.ECE@beatbox.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 15:10:40 +0100 From: beatkeeper Organization: www.beatbox.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: we are back... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk WE ARE BACK.... our return transmission begins... TODAY: june 9nd, 1996 6:00pm eastern on the WWW http://www.beatbox.com the second in a series of live dj transmissions over the internet brought to you by the BEATBOX. GUEST DJs: _______________ eric haupt detroit, MI bill converse east lansing, MI in BEATBOX residence: _____________________ VMAX records- silicon abstrak CRT.NET- DJlowsh ...begins 6:00pm eastern til ??? the BEATBOX uses REALAUDIO datastreaming technology, if you wanna hearit, you gotta gettit. stay tuned for bulletins as further events warrant... _________________________________ underground netizens for an electronic future, http://www.beatbox.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 13:15:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA13344; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:15:44 -0700 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA13321; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:15:39 -0700 Received: from soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (ausman@localhost) by soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA13222; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:15:40 -0700 Message-Id: <199606092015.NAA13222@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> To: Tony Rose cc: James Ausman , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: BSP - free party at my house In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 08 Jun 1996 20:21:44 PDT." Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 13:15:23 -0700 From: James Ausman Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >when is the haight street fair?...is amoeba going to be doing something? > Today! Right now! Don't know about Ameba. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 13:49:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA15915; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:49:57 -0700 Received: from redshift.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15909; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:49:54 -0700 Received: from [165.227.94.151] (red151.redshift.com [165.227.94.151]) by redshift.com (8.7.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id MAA02643; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 12:39:19 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:54:31 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: tim@redshift.com (Tim Gotch) Subject: Re: My first musical experience... Cc: raygun@value.net Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk 93 All of them. Cevin & Dwayne were involved in TG and Doubting Thomas is SP without Ogre, who did some stuff in Pigface. BTW Michael, Centre Bullet was originally a Tear Garden song that Cevin wrote with Edward Ka Spell. Tim 93/93 > Other side projects to check out are like Pigface, Tear Garden and >Doubting Thomas( don't know if they were part of this are not). > ;) > Reagan Tim Gotch tim@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~tim Hyper Design Technologies hdt@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~hdt 395 Del Monte Ctr. #128 Monterey, CA 93940 nothing is true, everything is permitted From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 14:54:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA21013; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 14:54:57 -0700 Received: from rocky.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA21005; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 14:54:54 -0700 Received: by rocky.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id OAA25114; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 14:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 14:54:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Killing Time X-Sender: ez006498@rocky.ucdavis.edu To: flux@well.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: If SIX was NINE In-Reply-To: <199606091838.LAA00129@well.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Boy, wonder how the weather was like on 9/6/69... Can't wait til' 9/6/96. all the world is topsy turvy- -alberT On Sun, 9 Jun 1996 flux@well.com wrote: > We just wanted to say that today is SIX-NINE-NINETY-SIX! (6/9/96) > > Go Down! > > love, > > michelle&james > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 17:59:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA04234; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 17:59:28 -0700 Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA04227; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 17:59:25 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA12496; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 20:59:02 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 20:59:02 -0400 Message-ID: <960609205900_552763462@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Basics last night!! =)~ Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey all you ravers! From handing out fruit too spreading the vibe and spraying people with water.....Basics was a pretty cool party. Every seemed to be haveing a really good time. I didn't really like the location, it was too hot!!! Doc Martins set was fucking incredible! So was Garths... I loved Astral matrix, too. Anyway, overall the party kicked ass, I got to meet a ton of Sf ravers all of them really really nice!!! I need to get one of those new laminates. Nawty boy should be sleeping now, but he wants to go to the Haight Street fair, but there is only so much someone can do when they live in Concord!:() Jonathan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 18:11:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA05266; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 18:11:40 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA05258; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 18:11:37 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca16-29.ix.netcom.com [199.35.223.157]) by dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA06990 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 18:11:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 18:11:03 -0700 Message-Id: <199606100111.SAA06990@dfw-ix11.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Fwd: Re: Basics last night!! =)~ To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I think this was meant to go to the list, or something. =)~ Adam ---- Begin Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Basics last night!! =)~ Hey all you ravers! From handing out fruit too spreading the vibe and spraying people with water.....Basics was a pretty cool party. Every seemed to be haveing a really good time. I didn't really like the location, it was too hot!!! Doc Martins set was fucking incredible! So was Garths... I loved Astral matrix, too. Anyway, overall the party kicked ass, I got to meet a ton of Sf ravers all of them really really nice!!! I need to get one of those new laminates. Nawty boy should be sleeping now, but he wants to go to the Haight Street fair, but there is only so much someone can do when they live in Concord!:() Jonathan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 21:22:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA19554; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:22:03 -0700 Received: from elaine27.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA19539; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:22:00 -0700 Received: (from gonzo@localhost) by elaine27.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA23816; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:21:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:21:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Jonathan Mark Logan To: friends&family Subject: orbital Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I stood in line for 30 minutes today with a bunch of Dave Matthews Band fans and got my slimy hands on a ticket to the Orbital show on the 24th at the Fillmore. Woohoo! Any other SFravers going? jon From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 21:27:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA19949; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:27:50 -0700 Received: from crt.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA19942; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:27:47 -0700 Received: from lowsh (207.92.18.100) by crt.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:34:27 +0000 Message-ID: <31BB50DB.6FE5@beatbox.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 23:31:55 +0100 From: beatkeeper Organization: www.beatbox.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: beatbox update... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk WE ARE BACK....BEATBOX UPDATE JIMMY D. from DETROIT, MI just finished... LIVE in the mix ERIC HAUPT from DETROIT, MI... up soon... djLOWSH and SILICON of Vmax RECORDS... ...begins 6:00pm eastern til ??? the BEATBOX uses REALAUDIO datastreaming technology, if you wanna hearit, you gotta gettit. stay tuned for bulletins as further events warrant... _________________________________ underground netizens for an electronic future, http://www.beatbox.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 21:33:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA20334; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:33:55 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA20324; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:33:52 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id VAA04519; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:33:48 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id VAA10464; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:33:48 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:33:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Jessica Robin Berkson Subject: something I found & liked To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Here is a test to find whether your mission on earth is finished: if you're alive it isn't -jess From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 21:36:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA20483; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:36:35 -0700 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA20475; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:36:32 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id VAA16632; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:36:29 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606100436.VAA16632@netcom14.netcom.com> Subject: Tibet Freedom Concert on Saturday To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 21:36:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 438 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves mailist ] Is anyone going to the Saturday part of the Tibet Freedom Concert at the Golden Gate Park Polo Fields? I'll be going Saturday - it'll be the first time I've gone to the Polo Fields. I'll be leaving a bit early , so I wasn't planning on setting up any carpooling. I was wondering if I could get together with other SFRavers who might be going to Saturday's show. See ya ! Larry Ching / larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 23:10:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA26914; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:10:34 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA26905; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:10:31 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-05.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.69]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA13259 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:09:57 -0700 Message-ID: <31BBBCB3.59E2@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 23:12:03 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: question of the week Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk To everyone on tha list: Last weeks question (1st musical experiences) was pretty cool. How about this one? How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? If 100 hardcore ravers kicked in $100, that would be $10,000 to go toward the purchase of an acre or 2 (in a desolate but beautiful area). It would be private property so no cops. it would be remote so no noise restrictions. each person who kicked in the $ would be entitled one free entrance for each $100 they kicked in. They would get a pass that showed how many credits they had. They could used credits to let friends come in to the events. Example: I kick in $300. This entitles me to free, unrestricted access to the site for myself and any other 2 people I want to let in. For those without the passes (those who are not "part-owners") they would have to kick in a nominal fee, say $10-$20 for the event. The shares could also be transferable meaning that others who are interested can purchase a share from someone thus entitling them to the above mentioned privileges. I, for one, would kick in $200-$300 so me and my friends could go up to some remote, beautiful location maybe once or twice per month and be assured of a good time without any worries of having the event be ruined by cops or neighbors. It would kinda be like a Rave Co-Op. It has just seemed to me that there are so many good people out there that want to have a good time and all too often they have to be anxious about the vibe. Well... that's my $.02. Take it for what it's worth. It was just an idea. Peace. --Atoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 23:18:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA27492; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:18:04 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA27485; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:18:01 -0700 Received: (from mist@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id XAA15831; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: JOSHUA MICHAEL ABERANT X-Sender: mist@pluto To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: MADNESSinTORONTO!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hey kiddos- away from sf for only one little week and boy am i missing it already!! but, oh geeeeze, did i ever have a crazy weekend. insane amounts of fun!! fri night me and my bro(the true owner of this account) went to an incredible GUERRILLA party. the music blew me away. hard fast and pounding all night long. YEAH!!!! i have never before danced so hard- seven and a half solid hours. leaving the dance floor occassionally only to dance my way to the bathroom. the vibe was so crazy- almost too intense. by the end of the night i was friends with every other dancing maniac. i did miss you guys. the energy level was not as high as sf parties. on sat night we went to a massive called AMERICANA. very, very massive- like 6000 or so people. it was on a cute little island in lake ontario. very nice place to party. i dont really know how to describe this rave, but it was so different from anything ive ever experienced. it was amazing and exciting and thrilling and all that, but it was very commercial and therefore had a few problems. there was absolutely nowhere to fill water bottles which is nuts considering there was such a large crowd. i could go on forever about this party, but im way too tired. in the past 3 days ive slept a total of 2 hours. when i see you ask me to explain why- it's a super crazy little story. make sure to have extra fun for me in sf. luv, sarah From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 23:37:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA28657; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:37:24 -0700 Received: from emout16.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA28649; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:37:21 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout16.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id CAA02387; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 02:37:00 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 02:37:00 -0400 Message-ID: <960610023657_552943485@emout16.mail.aol.com> To: ajtoy@ix.netcom.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I like the idea. But then money becomes an object and someone has to be in charge of the money, and it all becomes one big hassle. I think it would be cool if a bunch of people payed for the land then they could throw one party so everyone could get their money back and then the parties there would be free! Jonathan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 23:49:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA29513; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:49:35 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA29501; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:49:30 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-05.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.69]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA14644 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:48:56 -0700 Message-ID: <31BBC5D6.798A@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 23:51:02 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week References: <9606092332.S397662594@silicon.email.net> <31BBC558.5911@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ajtoy wrote: > > tim744@silicon.email.net wrote: > > > > You know I've thought and still do about what you just mentioned. If I won > > the lottery kind of thing. I think it would cause problem if alot of people > > did this. For one, who is altimatly responsible for the site. Who is in > > charge of who throws the party there and when? For $100 bucks you should be > > able to bring more then just one friend. Where does all the extra money that > > is made goto? Will it be used to buy more land or pay property taxes? Will > > there be a warehouse or storage area there? I think this would create > > problems. I REALLY think it's a good idea, but there has to be some FINE > > LINES drawn up. If one promoter kicked in the same amount and they both > > wanted to throw a party there, who's to decide on which one will have the > > party. I think if something like this is to happen, then we need to get a > > big place and have it big enough to have a couple of warehouse type buildings > > there for enough away from each other that more then one party can happen > > there. I'd certainly be up for pitching in, but we needs some quality time to > > get alot of people together and look at this plan. > > > > Tim (knucklehead) > > regarding decisions made about the site and events, that could be > decided by vote. For the $100 you would be part OWNER. That would > entitle you to unlimited event access anytime an event is planned on the > site. Depending on how much interest is out there, if enough people > were interested, a bunch of crazy, likeminded, shiny-happy, young > (hearted) people could buy one hellofa huge piece of land whose sole > purpose would be to provide a chillin place to gather. Warehouses, > porta-potties, stage, etc. Any extra money could go toward booking > great, popular DJ's or for maintenance of the site also for property > taxes. Wouldn't it be cool to be able to pass ou flyers to the first > gathering of the Northern California Rave Co-OP site number 1. It > could be a reality if enough people wanted to make it so. I'm not > really a detail person but I'm sure there are alot out there. > > Any ideas????... party-people? > > Peace. > > Atoy :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 9 23:53:54 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA29794; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:53:54 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA29789; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:53:51 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca8-05.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.69]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA14802; Sun, 9 Jun 1996 23:53:18 -0700 Message-ID: <31BBC6DC.2B63@ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 09 Jun 1996 23:55:24 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com, Jondabomb@aol.com Subject: Re: question of the week References: <960610023657_552943485@emout16.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Jondabomb@aol.com wrote: > > I like the idea. But then money becomes an object and someone has to be in > charge of the money, and it all becomes one big hassle. I think it would be > cool if a bunch of people payed for the land then they could throw one party > so everyone could get their money back and then the parties there would be > free! > Jonathan J- no, man... money would not be the object. the object would be a cool place for people to gather and chill to great music and friends. the land would be paid for in cash. the point would be to have lots of parties on this paid for land. if people can spent $30-$40 for one rave, why not $100 to own a piece of land for lots of raves? It would be free for those who were part owners. Non-owners would kick in a $10-$20 donation. Peace. Atoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 03:49:41 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id DAA27703; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:49:41 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA27695; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:49:38 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id DAA11257; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:49:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 03:49:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199606101049.DAA11257@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: ajtoy From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: Re: question of the week Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >To everyone on tha list: > >Last weeks question (1st musical experiences) was pretty cool. How about >this one? > >How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land >somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? If 100 >hardcore ravers kicked in $100, that would be $10,000 to go toward the >purchase of an acre or 2 (in a desolate but beautiful area). > >It would be private property so no cops. it would be remote so no noise >restrictions. each person who kicked in the $ would be entitled >one free entrance for each $100 they kicked in. They would get a pass >that showed how many credits they had. They could used credits to let >friends come in to the events. Example: I kick in $300. This >entitles me to free, unrestricted access to the site for myself and >any other 2 people I want to let in. For those without the passes >(those who are not "part-owners") they would have to kick in a nominal >fee, say $10-$20 for the event. > [snip] I think this is a good idea, worthy of development. Does anybody out there know about real estate? I suppose this would be sort of like a rave time-share or something. Tribal Future has shown what can be accomplished if the right people own land. The only problems I can potentially see are 1) Schedualing parties. Who contrls this, how do we keep the place clean and keep it from getting "burned out". 2) Decision making, with 100 - 200 owners consensus might be hard, a standard board of trustees or directors might be needed. 3) Security, I would think that we would need someone living there 24-7 to keep vandles and others well meaning party-goers from trashing the place. Just because it is private property doesn't mean no hassles from the police. Remember, they have guns and if they want to come in, they will. The police "break" the law all of the time and are rarely taken to task unless you have a really good lawyer or a really bad cop. So it really needs to be remote, sorta in the same way the TF space was, several ,miles down dirt roads, the police could come in with helicopters but in that part of the country, flying copters in the dark over people's property may not be such a safe idea :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 08:38:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA21448; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:38:50 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA21438; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:38:47 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uT93D-0000tuC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 08:38 PDT Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:38:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This is an interesting idea and one which has been discussed now and then here in the northwest . but i do agree with these problems ... *snippit!* 1) Schedualing parties. Who contrls this, how do we keep the place clean and keep it from getting "burned out". 2) Decision making, with 100 - 200 owners consensus might be hard, a standard board of trustees or directors might be needed. 3) Security, I would think that we would need someone living there 24-7 to keep vandles and others well meaning party-goers from trashing the place. Can you imagine 100 people all saying well, i am part owner in some property here so let's organize a nice ambient party for such and such a date, only to find that some of the OTHER people are all planning to hold a GREAT BIG MASSIVE on the same date .. who decides? It would be far easier i think if maybe TEN ppl owned the land and then sold shares in it ..... maybe you could organize a fundraiser to purchase some property? hmmmm .. And yes, private property does NOT mean cops will leave it alone. If its something they feel is illegal in general, it will get shut down regardless. Then you get into big legal battles. But the idea is worth looking into despite all these difficulties. I'll be interested to see what comes out of this discussion! k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 08:45:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA22079; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:45:15 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA22071; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:45:12 -0700 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (uclink.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.3]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA02601 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from anthrax@localhost) by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id IAA24389 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:44:45 -0700 From: Ann Elizabeth Loraine Message-Id: <199606101544.IAA24389@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: New Moon Saturday To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi everyone, Saturday the New Moon is getting together to celebrate the end and the beginning of the lunar cycle. If you want to come, and you want to know what the party is about, check out: http://hyperreal.com/raves/newmoon If you want to come, send me email! -Ann From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 08:53:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA22922; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:53:50 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA22901; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:53:44 -0700 From: blkadder@value.net Received: (from blkadder@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA23700; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:53:40 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:53:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Geoff White cc: ajtoy , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week In-Reply-To: <199606101049.DAA11257@precipice.v-site.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Geoff White wrote: > >To everyone on tha list: > > > >Last weeks question (1st musical experiences) was pretty cool. How about > >this one? > > > >How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land > >somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? If 100 > >hardcore ravers kicked in $100, that would be $10,000 to go toward the > >purchase of an acre or 2 (in a desolate but beautiful area). > > > >It would be private property so no cops. it would be remote so no noise > >restrictions. each person who kicked in the $ would be entitled > >one free entrance for each $100 they kicked in. They would get a pass > >that showed how many credits they had. They could used credits to let > >friends come in to the events. Example: I kick in $300. This > >entitles me to free, unrestricted access to the site for myself and > >any other 2 people I want to let in. For those without the passes > >(those who are not "part-owners") they would have to kick in a nominal > >fee, say $10-$20 for the event. > > > > [snip] > > I think this is a good idea, worthy of development. Does anybody out there > know about real estate? I suppose this would be sort of like a rave > time-share or > something. Tribal Future has shown what can be accomplished if the right > people own land. The only problems I can potentially see are I talked to my boss who own a couple of parcels in the E. Bay, and his feeling was that in order to get property anywhere near as cheap as 10k we would have to look in the Sierra Nevada foothills or the Oakley, Grizzly Island area. Personally, having been to both areas, I would prefer the foothills. It would seem the best thing to do would be to hop in the car and take a look around... anyone down for a drive? Black Adder P.S. In case you haven't guessed I think it is a *very* cool idea, but it needs to be handled carefully.... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 09:16:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA25014; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:16:30 -0700 Received: from xinet.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA25006; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:16:27 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora by xinet.COM via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id JAA03261; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:16:09 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:16:03 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Tony Rotundo Subject: Poison Oak Suggestion Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I know this is rather after the fact, for those Tribal Future folks with poison oak, but here's a hint for the future (NPI). As a precautionary measure, there is a fine and effective poison oak/ivy remedy that you use if you think you've had exposure to the dreaded plants. It's called Tecnu, and is sold at most pharmacy type stores. You apply it following exposure, let it sit for two minutes and then wash. It essentially removes the oil from your skin, and *will* save your butt (or any other part of you ;^) from itching for a couple weeks. It's most effective when it's applied prior to any break-out on the skin. I have hang-gliding friends that swear by it. Have a good summer folks!! Tone P.S. You probably won't need it at Burning Man...:^) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 09:50:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA28530; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:50:26 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA28494; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:50:18 -0700 Received: from (solle@srf-ca6-25.ix.netcom.com [199.182.131.217]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id JAA02474 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:49:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:49:46 -0700 Message-Id: <199606101649.JAA02474@dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com> From: solle@ix.netcom.com (Sunny) Subject: Taj @ 1015... To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk For those of you looking for a serious early morning workout... I ventured into the bowels of 1015 around 2 a.m. Saturday and managed to lose about 5 pounds gettin' down to Taj and whoever followed him. Left around 6 a.m. got some breakfast and had a killer Saturday in the Haight. Check It Out, you won't regret the trip, people down there really want to dance. AND HARD! -SUNNY From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 09:57:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA29122; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:57:19 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA29113; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:57:12 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id JAA17554; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:57:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606101657.JAA17554@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Rick Riffle Subject: Re: orbital Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Are tickets available anywhere except Bass? Rick At 09:21 PM 6/9/96 -0700, you wrote: > >I stood in line for 30 minutes today with a bunch of Dave Matthews Band >fans and got my slimy hands on a ticket to the Orbital >show on the 24th at the Fillmore. Woohoo! > > Any other SFravers going? > > jon > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 09:58:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA29215; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:58:31 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA29207; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:58:27 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id JAA17694; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 09:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606101657.JAA17694@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jessica Robin Berkson From: Rick Riffle Subject: Re: something I found & liked Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Illusions, Richard Bach. Great book huh? Rick At 09:33 PM 6/9/96 -0700, you wrote: > >Here is >a test to find >whether your mission on earth >is finished: > if you're alive > it isn't > > > > >-jess > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 10:40:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA03561; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:30 -0700 Received: from netcom22.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03544; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:27 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom22.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id KAA12709; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:25 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606101740.KAA12709@netcom22.netcom.com> Subject: New Mac Virus:"Open Me" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:40:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1225 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] Hi folks - Well, I hope I'm not premature about this, but the Computer Help guy at my workplace just forwarded this alert about a new Macintosh virus to all the folks in our program. Since he's a very knowledgeable Macintosh guru, this may be for real ... Larry Ching / larryc@netcom.com =========== Attached message follows ============== Received the following message from Computer Security: "Just got word of a new virus called "Open Me." It looks to be a Macintosh control Panel virus. It hit one of the facilities in Denver in a big way. At this point we don't know where it came from or how it spreads but it will destroy a hard disk. So if you bring up your Mac and see the message Open Me don't do it." Received from Dave Ferreira our local expert: "This is not a hoax. It appears to be a control panel type of virus that can not be detected using SAM or Norton Anti-virus. The virus/control panel wipes out the B-tree or B-catalog or whatever (basically wipes out the location of every file on the hard disk)." Hopefully we won't see this virus here but just in case, be on the look out........................Mark ========== End of Attached Message ============== From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 10:50:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA04517; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:50:18 -0700 Received: from umr.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA04507; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:50:13 -0700 Received: from saucer.cc.umr.edu (saucer.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.58]) via ESMTP by hermes.cc.umr.edu (8.7.5/R.4.16) id MAA27664; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:50:04 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (rkumar@localhost) by saucer.cc.umr.edu (8.6.12/M.3.01) id MAA11828; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:50:04 -0500 Message-Id: <199606101750.MAA11828@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Subject: Re: New Mac Virus:"Open Me" To: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:50:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "roger kumar" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606101740.KAA12709@netcom22.netcom.com> from "Larry Ching" at Jun 10, 96 10:40:24 am X-Www-Page: http://www.umr.edu/~rkumar/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > "This is not a hoax. It appears to be a control panel type of virus > that can not be detected using SAM or Norton Anti-virus. The virus/control > panel wipes out the B-tree or B-catalog or whatever (basically wipes out > the location of every file on the hard disk)." ..? if this is all it does (erasing a mac's "Desktop" files.. no problem, it will cause slight trouble until you rebuild the disc, but won't destroy the disc -- pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted _l public keys on server or by request From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 10:58:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA05487; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:58:30 -0700 Received: from umr.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA05482; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 10:58:27 -0700 Received: from saucer.cc.umr.edu (saucer.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.58]) via ESMTP by hermes.cc.umr.edu (8.7.5/R.4.16) id MAA29087; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:58:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (rkumar@localhost) by saucer.cc.umr.edu (8.6.12/M.3.01) id MAA13055; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:58:23 -0500 Message-Id: <199606101758.MAA13055@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Subject: very sad day To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:58:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "roger kumar" X-Www-Page: http://www.umr.edu/~rkumar/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk saturday night/sunday morning there was a "get together" at Your Momma's Cafe, on college ave. in oakland. never had i see the place more full, and all was good, but then merit stopped the dj and made an anoucement thanks everyone for comming out, but tonight it the last night. then we're closing. everyone was sad. your momma's and the people there were one of the reasons i'm in the bay area again. 6.9.96 was the last time. -- pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted _l public keys on server or by request From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 11:23:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA08448; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:23:45 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA08439; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:23:42 -0700 Received: from well (surfpunk@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA11203; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:22:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:22:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Cyr Subject: Re: Tibet Freedom Concert on Saturday To: Larry Ching cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606100436.VAA16632@netcom14.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk going both days - plan to get there early rendevous point? jim cyr On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Larry Ching wrote: > [ to sfraves mailist ] > > Is anyone going to the Saturday part of the Tibet Freedom Concert at the > Golden Gate Park Polo Fields? I'll be going Saturday - it'll be the first > time I've gone to the Polo Fields. > > I'll be leaving a bit early , so I wasn't planning on setting up any > carpooling. I was wondering if I could get together with other SFRavers > who might be going to Saturday's show. > > See ya ! > > Larry Ching / larryc@netcom.com > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 11:28:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA08938; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:28:39 -0700 Received: from ecf2.puc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA08924; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:28:35 -0700 Received: (from amdice@localhost) by ecf2.puc.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA02028; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:28:44 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:28:44 -0700 (PDT) From: tinsau To: sfravers Subject: Pack-a-Bowl Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone know who will be spinning this week? Thursday is the last day of tests for us and a group of us are looking for something to do that night. Austin Tinsau S.F. Born and Raved! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 11:58:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA11452; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:58:08 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA11435; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:58:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (jfogler@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id LAA89625 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:57:58 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:57:57 -0700 (PDT) From: jess To: sfraves Subject: Hardcore Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello all you lovely people, I don't know about you but sometimes I just feel like fucking screaming my head off - when this happens I go see a very violent movie (OK, I admit it, I loved T2, Total Recall etc..) or I go to a very loud obnoxious party. How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? So here's my idea - we choose a cool event in LA and carpool down there for the weekend - it's really only a six 1/2 hour drive and we could rage in LA the day after - Whaddya say? Let's explore the seedier side of Techno... Ranting and Raving ** jess ** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:01:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA11790; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:01:39 -0700 Received: from ns2.eds.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA11785; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:01:36 -0700 Received: by ns2.eds.com (hello) id PAA11040; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:01:27 -0400 Received: by nnsp.eds.com (hello) id PAA07048; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:00:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from notes.hds.eds.com by spot (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA18177; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 11:59:13 +0800 Received: by notes.hds.eds.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA5455; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:59:52 -0400 Message-Id: <9606101559.AA5455@notes.hds.eds.com> Received: from HDS with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 6B1C9E0331E0570E882563450067EAC3; Mon, 10 Jun 96 11:59:45 To: Jonathan Mark Logan Cc: sfraves From: Todd Manley/Santa Clara/HDS Date: 10 Jun 96 11:58:17 Subject: Re: orbital Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi gonzo- I'm going to this concert along with other sfravers. I've heard alot about Orbital and Underworld and their live sets, and I can't wait!!! -Todd From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:07:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA12485; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:07:45 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA12479; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:07:42 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA00188 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:03:21 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA23211; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:03:07 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA24267; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:03:06 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:04:56 -0700 To: Rick Riffle From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Re: something I found & liked Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Illusions, Richard Bach. > >Great book huh? > >Rick > Awesome book!!! I think everyone should read it, and _A Bridge Across Forever_, by the same author. I got a great deal out of them; helped me to re-define my outlook on life in many ways :) Peace, - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:20:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA13683; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:20:16 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13663; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:20:06 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA08915; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:19:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:19:18 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: roger kumar cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: very sad day In-Reply-To: <199606101758.MAA13055@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Boo hoo :( This is really a sad thing. That was such a cool cafe. They just never had very much business. If the location was changed, I think the business would pick up. Did they say anything about moving? --kaysee On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, roger kumar wrote: > saturday night/sunday morning there was a "get together" at Your Momma's > Cafe, on college ave. in oakland. never had i see the place more full, > and all was good, but then merit stopped the dj and made an anoucement > > thanks everyone for comming out, but tonight it the last > night. then we're closing. > > everyone was sad. your momma's and the people there were one of the reasons > i'm in the bay area again. 6.9.96 was the last time. > > -- > pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted > _l public keys on server or by request > ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:20:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA13694; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:20:18 -0700 Received: from svpal.svpal.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13671; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:20:12 -0700 Received: (from djtom@localhost) by svpal.svpal.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06464; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Leichardt Subject: Re: question of the week To: ajtoy cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <31BBBCB3.59E2@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, ajtoy wrote: > To everyone on tha list: > How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land > somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? If 100 > hardcore ravers kicked in $100, that would be $10,000 to go toward the > purchase of an acre or 2 (in a desolate but beautiful area). > > It would be private property so no cops. it would be remote so no noise > restrictions. each person who kicked in the $ would be entitled > one free entrance for each $100 they kicked in. They would get a pass > that showed how many credits they had. They could used credits to let > friends come in to the events. Example: I kick in $300. This > entitles me to free, unrestricted access to the site for myself and > any other 2 people I want to let in. For those without the passes > (those who are not "part-owners") they would have to kick in a nominal > fee, say $10-$20 for the event. > > The shares could also be transferable meaning that others who are > interested can purchase a share from someone thus entitling them to the > above mentioned privileges. > > I, for one, would kick in $200-$300 so me and my friends could go up to > some remote, beautiful location maybe once or twice per month and be > assured of a good time without any worries of having the event be ruined > by cops or neighbors. It would kinda be like a Rave Co-Op. > > It has just seemed to me that there are so many good people out there > that want to have a good time and all too often they have to be anxious > about the vibe. i think a hundred owners definetly have the potential to work cooperatively. i know a lot of the UG promoters in SF already do work together, help eachother out, and throw parties without conflicting with eachother. i feel that when a hundred or so people come together to do this, their intentions will be to work together toward a communal atmosphere where everyone gets a chance to do something on the site,. generally speaking, not to many self interested people would throw in a hundred bucks to a communal effort type thing, mostly those who believe in it will be the ones forking over teh money, IMO - similar principle when a lot of like minded people end up at good vibe parties, just more complex. the thing with property taxes we would have to realize is that teh owners are ultimately responsible, wether teh site raises some money or not. also, collecting money from people in connection with the site means someone should be getting taxed according to the law, so there may be some problems there with police. nothing that cant be solved im sure, as i know some promoters do have business lisences, then someone would have to do some book keeping though. its a damn good idea. just the thought of communal ownership of property is great. a lot of people talk about changing the money driven culture we live in, but this would definetly be doing something about it. energy, tom From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:20:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA13732; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:20:33 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13542; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:18:23 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id MAA11177; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606101917.MAA11177@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) From: Rick Riffle Subject: Re: something I found & liked Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I have it on vinyl, read by Mr. Bach himself. Listen for it in an ambient room near you :) At 12:04 PM 6/10/96 -0700, you wrote: >>Illusions, Richard Bach. >> >>Great book huh? >> >>Rick >> >Awesome book!!! I think everyone should read it, and _A Bridge Across >Forever_, by the same author. I got a great deal out of them; helped me to >re-define my outlook on life in many ways :) > >Peace, > >- E > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:26:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA14294; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:26:09 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA14282; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:26:04 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id MAA11789; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606101923.MAA11789@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: Re: very sad day To: rkumar@umr.edu (roger kumar) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606101758.MAA13055@saucer.cc.umr.edu> from "roger kumar" at Jun 10, 96 12:58:23 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > saturday night/sunday morning there was a "get together" at Your Momma's > Cafe, on college ave. in oakland. never had i see the place more full, > and all was good, but then merit stopped the dj and made an anoucement > > thanks everyone for comming out, but tonight it the last > night. then we're closing. > > everyone was sad. your momma's and the people there were one of the reasons > i'm in the bay area again. 6.9.96 was the last time. This sucks. I can only imagine that they were not making enough money. It seems if they just promoted the place a bit more, they would have done fine. They should have had a big "come support us night".... I would have gone. Anyplace that has open dex all the time (except when their are special DJ's there) should have done well. -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:28:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA14449; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:28:03 -0700 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA14418; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:27:56 -0700 Received: (from dislex@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id MAA23784; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:27:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:27:16 -0700 (PDT) From: MIKE BOLGER X-Sender: dislex@orion To: flux@well.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: 6 : 666 In-Reply-To: <199606091838.LAA00129@well.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ...and it happened on the third day after the sixth day of the sixth month of the sixth year of this decade. hail satan ! On Sun, 9 Jun 1996 flux@well.com wrote: > We just wanted to say that today is SIX-NINE-NINETY-SIX! (6/9/96) > > Go Down! > > love, > > michelle&james > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:36:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA15420; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:36:48 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA15382; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:36:40 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA32463 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Basics =) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Basics Saturday night was absatively posolutely the best way I could have spent this weekend... Everything was perfect: the space, the free water, the music (both live and spun) and the people (hello Sarvi, Jan, Raf, Rebecca, Jon, John, Wayne, Shawna, Adam, Ian, and all non-SFR people and others who I ran into). I just wish the chill room was a little chillier... maybe if they had removed the cieling and a few walls and provided a full moon and some shooting stars in the cool night sky overhead... =) I have one question: what was the dj lineup between Astral Matrix and Doc Martin? There was one guy who played some really nice breakbeat... -m. Well, my my my that's common sense. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:42:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA16224; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:42:26 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA16202; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:42:18 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA03793 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:40:43 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA22677 for Sfraves@hyperreal.com; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:34:03 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: Sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: WeEkEnD rEpOrT.... Date: 10 Jun 1996 20:21:07 GMT Message-Id: <2730938333.9133093@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Goood Morning all you buzzzy busy computer / underground/ white, blue and tie dyed collar workers.... 'Tis I, Adam, that dancing fool, again with another nutty fun-filled weekend report of the activites and non-activites for the weekend of June 8 -10th..... Friday: After a quick margarita run with an ex-coworker, it was off to Life. Carlos was running around like a lil madman smiling and doing random huggings... The crowd, young, alot of clubby -type kidz butbo fights. Really positive vibe and i rightously logged in a couple of footwork hours in front of one of the speakers... The alcohol, however, pulled me down (The last time I had a drink was over six months ago...) and I curled up in a corner and napped for a few hours.... Waking up to 1979 by Smashing Punkings was fairly interesting as well (Did I also hear a Cure song? or was I dreaming?) as Carlos was spinning a varied and oft confisung (yet enjoyable) set... Carlos is truly a Mongrel DJ, crossing cultures ( Ie. that spanish version of Celibartion by Kool and the Gang) as well as music styles. Not to mention his adeptness of the turntables... Light: Vibe: 8 Smiles (not too friendly, but tolerable) Music: 8 Smiles (No trance, but dancy techno and house) Visuals: 9 Smiles (What can I say, gotta love thoses lasers) Dancing media/ Space: 9 Smiles (Always circulation with that big hole in the middle of the celing) Overall Solid 8.5 Smiles. Kudos to Carlos.... Saturday: After a quick Breakfast, some ZZZ's and haircut I kicked it with the F-8 Family @ the Basics Mapoint. 1000 tix in 4 hours and still a line 'o' people after they (basics) sold out... I was quite impressed that the Basics crew didn't choose to sell more tickets and overpack the event, but were, actually informing ravers of other parties. Big time respect for that.... @2AM I decied to check out the underdog instead of basics, So off to down2earth it was. Down2earth seems to be a pacific sponsered event, Gailen and crew were doin the turntable thang.. It was a nice party, not too crowded, same sunsetish feel, which I love. Nice VIbe, cool peoples, danced till dawn... (need I say more?)... Down2Earth: Vibe : 9 Smiles (Great Sunsetish feel) Music: 8.5 Smiles (A little housey and a bit slow for my tastes but vibe factor more than compensated for it...) Visuals: 8 Smiles (Nice picts, but after Light, It's hard to match up...) Space/ dancing media: 9 Smiles (Great space, lots'o'bouncing around area) Overall 9.25 Smiles (Prediction: This will be one of THE underground places 2B in the summer, when you get tired of the Massives...) Sunday: Well I was too spun out to do much of anything so I lazied around all day (missed that Haight St faire, sniff, sniff)... That's a wrap! Hope all of yous had a great weekends... See ya @ the Bahia tonight (1600 Market). "dance with me" Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 12:59:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA18085; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:59:34 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA18079; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:59:31 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA07654; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:59:20 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Basics Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Doc Marten's set was the bomb... need I say more? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 13:08:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA18976; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:08:33 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA18971; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:08:29 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA10927; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:07:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: Tibet Freedom Concert on Saturday Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yes! I'll be there... many of you know me. many of you don't... I don't think I'll be wearing anything distinctive like at Basics. -m. >[ to sfraves mailist ] > > Is anyone going to the Saturday part of the Tibet Freedom Concert at the >Golden Gate Park Polo Fields? I'll be going Saturday - it'll be the first >time I've gone to the Polo Fields. > > I'll be leaving a bit early , so I wasn't planning on setting up any >carpooling. I was wondering if I could get together with other SFRavers >who might be going to Saturday's show. > > See ya ! > > Larry Ching / larryc@netcom.com 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 13:08:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA19013; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:08:45 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA18925; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:08:00 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA02184 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:07:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: cops (was: Re: question of the week) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Just because it is private property doesn't mean no hassles from the police. >Remember, they have guns and if they want to come in, they will. The police >"break" the law all of the time and are rarely taken to task unless you have >a really good lawyer or a really bad cop. So it really needs to be >remote, sorta in the same way the TF space was, several ,miles down dirt roads, >the police could come in with helicopters but in that part of the country, >flying copters in the dark over people's property may not be such a safe idea. Oh come off it; cop bashing is such a pointless waste of time. They aren't lawbreakers or assholes, they're just out there doing unpopular stuff because there's more to this world than ravers and flower people. I know there's prick cops, but there's nice cops too (I've run into more than a few) and it's annoying when people just assume that cops are shitheads just because they're enforcing laws that (for the most part) have pretty solid reasoning behind them but aren't perfect. I'm not "going off" on you, I respect your opinion, but I think generalizations like this are totally unfair. They just reinforce that confrontational "me-vs.- the-world" attitude. -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 13:31:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA21813; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:31:36 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA21801; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:31:32 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29109; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:31:29 -0700 Received: (kcroy@localhost) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA20913; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:07:58 -0700 From: kcroy Message-Id: <199606102007.NAA20913@shellx.best.com> Subject: Re: Hardcore To: jfogler@itsa.ucsf.EDU (jess) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: from "jess" at Jun 10, 96 11:57:57 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 320 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else > suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? yeah. get that industrial itch sometimes too the kind that makes you want to see people in riot gear trying to deal with you sure. la sounds fine take care kcRoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 13:34:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA22144; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:34:40 -0700 Received: from hal.mobius.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA22113; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:34:33 -0700 Received: from dbarch-pc by hal.mobius.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0uTEFH-000JJGC; Mon, 10 Jun 96 14:11 PDT Message-ID: <31BC86C5.FC5@mobius.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:34:13 -0700 From: "w. p. risenhoover" Organization: (none) X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: michal migurski CC: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: cops (was: Re: question of the week) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk michal migurski wrote: > I'm not "going off" on you, I respect your opinion, but I think > generalizations like this are totally unfair. They just reinforce that > confrontational "me-vs.- the-world" attitude. amen. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 13:45:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA23096; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:45:03 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA23075; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:44:58 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id NAA21196; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:44:52 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id NAA05061; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:44:50 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy C Cone Subject: Re: 6 : 666 To: MIKE BOLGER cc: flux@well.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, MIKE BOLGER wrote: > hail satan ! Satan sucks. Ran ( now Pan on the other hand... ;) ) / -=*=-/ ~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 14:02:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA25690; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:02:50 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA25682; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:02:46 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA13857; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:01:01 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id NAA28657; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 13:54:09 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: jfogler@itsa.ucsf.EDU Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Hardcore Date: 10 Jun 1996 21:42:52 GMT Message-Id: <61438.9421977@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I spin Gabber and hardstep/core... All I get is weird looks from my other techno friends... I see a few of the SPAZ DJ's spin Gabber... And F-8's MARS tosses a Gabber ep or two every great while(ususally no more than 15Min tho..) Hmm I guess SF is too laid back to have resident hardcore DJ's(???)... "Dance with me" Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 14:08:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA26311; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:08:27 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26300; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:08:21 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.65] (Cust1.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.65]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA08994; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606102108.OAA08994@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:10:02 -0800 To: jess From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Re: Hardcore Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >So here's my idea - we choose a cool event in LA and carpool down there >for the weekend - it's really only a six 1/2 hour drive and we could rage >in LA the day after - > >Whaddya say? > YAY!!! Lets do it... I dig HardCore... But it just don't exist up here... Crunchman From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 14:08:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA26349; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:08:44 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26342; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:08:37 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.65] (Cust1.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.65]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id OAA09027 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606102108.OAA09027@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 14:10:12 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Doown to Earth/Strawberry Sunday/Haight St Faire Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Greetings.. WOW!! Things are really coming together with me. I met this Great girl Claudia, we've been working together as a partership for our new company WebCrunchers... I might be employed really soon, details to follow... Right now though, back to subject at hand... Down to Earth - at the small venue on Mission St. Small, cosey, good vibe, really good female DJ from Canada ripped the dance area with some new and refreshing tracks. The DJ from Boston, didn't get his name, was also GREAT!! I might have gone to Basics, but I just don't see how I could have fun dancing in a hot stuffy smokey venue, and at least Down to Earth's venue banned smoking in there. After Down to Earth, I headed over to the Bagdad Cafe for breakfast, then made my way to Strawberry Sunday afterparty. WOW! I was impressed with the vibe and the music. Really good trancey house, lots of excellent beats. It was the first time I've been to the Bahia venue. Excellent open air space, high ceilings mean less 2nd hand smoke, huge air conditioner forced clean smokefree air into the place. Only $3 cover charge. I highly recommend it... After that, I chilled a few hours, then went over to the Haight St faire, where I encountered a very strange situation. This tall dude who I've seen a lot at raves, often has his hair tied up in a knot, wears a shortened t-shirt that covers only the upper part, came up to me and said I sold him bogus vitamen A, and demanded that I give him $20 or he was going to give me a choice to either punch me in the face or stomach. Anyway, I was luckey and slipped away from him in the hude crowds. I saw him again in Ameba, but don't think he noticed me. Anyway, people should watch out for people like that, expecially since I don't go selling vitamin A. I went to another party between Ameba and Galen's party, which was pumpin BIG TIME, but then the music stopped, and as I left, I realized why... Da piggie wiggies were at the door.... I slipped out, and merged with the wonderful happy crowd... then left early to prepare for my big job interview in SF at 7 pm in Union Square. I went to my friends place to clean up and had an excellent dinner and interview with the president of a leading 3d company (detais pending official offer)... He was really impressed, and it means I can work literally anywhere, might even possibly get my OWN T-1 link because I'll need the bandwidth, but at least would get ISDN. Today, I go looking for my new place... I'll keep you all informed... And, to top it off, I finally got my personal communications service fully working and functional, no thanks to Pac Bell who accidentally disconnected my 415-381-5847. It's finally connected again, tied to Pac Bell messaging service with paging options so I won't miss as many calls. Crunch out.. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 14:12:54 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA26757; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:12:54 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26751; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:12:52 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA14842; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:11:17 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id OAA29545; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 14:04:05 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: dislex@sfsu.edu Cc: flux@well.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: 6 : 666 Date: 10 Jun 1996 21:56:09 GMT Message-Id: <61373.9494051@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yep, my gran papy said dem some prutty odd folk in dem dar hills..... "dance with me...." Adam MIKE BOLGER,dislex@sfsu.edu,Internet writes: ...and it happened on the third day after the sixth day of the sixth month of the sixth year of this decade. hail satan ! ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 15:11:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA03401; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:11:12 -0700 Received: from tango.rahul.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA03392; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:11:08 -0700 Received: from bolero.rahul.net by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA24610 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:11:00 -0700 Received: from [206.61.226.222] (c222.rahul.net) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP id AA09100 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:10:55 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:10:55 -0700 Message-Id: <199606102210.AA09100@bolero.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: wolfe@rahul.net (Nancy W. Wolfe) Subject: Re: something I found & liked Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >>Illusions, Richard Bach. >> >>Great book huh? >> >>Rick >> >Awesome book!!! I think everyone should read it, and _A Bridge Across >Forever_, by the same author. I got a great deal out of them; helped me to >re-define my outlook on life in many ways :) > >Peace, > >- E You want to read a great book? Mutant Message Down Under. I lent it to my friend when she went to Florida and she lent it to her friend so unfortunately I cannot tell you who the author is. I'm sure anyone in a bookstore would know. It has become a pretty popular book. It is about a woman who helps some aboriginal youth in Australia (equal to gang youth in L.A.) get jobs and get their lives together. A group of Aboriginals still traveling in the Outback decide to show their gratitude by taking her on a walkabout for three months. It is in the fiction section because it is so controversial. She was not allowed to bring anything with her so she was not able to write anything down. This is why people doubt her, but as you read, you can feel in your heart that this woman had an absolutely amazing experience. If you ever get the chance and are into sociology you will enjoy this book. -Nancy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 15:24:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA04904; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:24:33 -0700 Received: from svpal.svpal.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA04897; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:24:30 -0700 Received: (from djtom@localhost) by svpal.svpal.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id PAA16198; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:23:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Leichardt Subject: Re: cops (was: Re: question of the week) To: to@svpal.org cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, michal migurski wrote: > >Just because it is private property doesn't mean no hassles from the police. > >Remember, they have guns and if they want to come in, they will. The police > >"break" the law all of the time and are rarely taken to task unless you have > >a really good lawyer or a really bad cop. So it really needs to be > >remote, sorta in the same way the TF space was, several ,miles down dirt roads, > >the police could come in with helicopters but in that part of the country, > >flying copters in the dark over people's property may not be such a safe idea. > > Oh come off it; cop bashing is such a pointless waste of time. They aren't > lawbreakers or assholes, they're just out there doing unpopular stuff > because there's more to this world than ravers and flower people. I know > there's prick cops, but there's nice cops too (I've run into more than a > few) and it's annoying when people just assume that cops are shitheads just > because they're enforcing laws that (for the most part) have pretty solid > reasoning behind them but aren't perfect. yup, there definetly are good cops and bad cops. i remember i helped throw a party on march 23rd and a cop shows up at the map point a few blocks away and catches us selling tickets, thinking were selling drugs. so james and i explain to him exactly what is going on, ie. "no officer were not dope dealers, were just selling tickets to a party" so he tells us that what were doing is illegal, but he didnt want to bust the party, saying he had better things to do, just wanted to make sure we wernt selling drugs there on teh corner. so with that he left us alone. ive seen cops let a lot of underground parties go, as long as there is no noise complaints. i know some oakland cops let many parties go even *with* noise complaints untill the neighbors got so fed up they had to act. so basically, its good to realize that just because someone is a cop representing the law which we may not agree with, that cop also will use his or her judgment wether to enforce the law. being up front and open with the police has enabled many UG parties to continue. its sorta a two way thing, cuz there is always those cops who enjoy being shitheads, and they almost always do get the final word, lawfully and sometimes not. this is turning into a longer post than i planned, basically all you's out there doing this sorta thing, use common sence. lotsa love, tom From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 15:53:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07899; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:25 -0700 Received: from rocky.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07866; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:19 -0700 Received: by rocky.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id PAA29645; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:52:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Pfister X-Sender: ez045207@rocky.ucdavis.edu To: jess cc: sfraves Subject: Re: Hardcore (some BSP) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, jess wrote: > I don't know about you but sometimes I just feel like fucking screaming my > head off - when this happens I go see a very violent movie (OK, I admit > it, I loved T2, Total Recall etc..) or I go to a very loud obnoxious > party. > How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else > suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? > So here's my idea - we choose a cool event in LA and carpool down there > for the weekend - it's really only a six 1/2 hour drive and we could rage > in LA the day after - Well this friday the party called Orion should fit your bill. One room devoted strictly to hardcore and jungle. info : 415-273-1190 or 916-392-9105. And if you buy your tickets presale it should be quite affordable... hannibal selecta From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 15:53:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07979; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:51 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07974; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:47 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-120.apple.com [17.128.100.120]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA21320 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:35 -0700 Received: from [17.130.22.197] (kip-2-197.apple.com [17.130.22.197]) by scv2.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08924 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:54:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199606102254.PAA08924@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Paul McCarney doing Techno?!?!?! Date: Mon, 10 Jun 96 15:54:32 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "sfraves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Has anyone ever heard of a CD by a group called "The Fireman" titled "Strawberries Oceans Ships Forrests"? Came out in '93 on Capital Records. Someone at work brought it in and he says its Paul McCartney produced by Youth but the CD has no credits listed. The copyrights is Juggler Music which is, from what I'm told, Paul McCartney's Publishing company. The disk is really good!! Slow (100bpm-ish) techno. Can anyone confirm this??? -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 16:55:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA14838; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:55:17 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA14822; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:55:12 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id RAA25515 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:13:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id QAA25668 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:53:33 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA07695 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:51:49 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 10 Jun 1996 16:50:45 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: Paul McCarney doing Tech To: "sfraves" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 b2 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>Paul McCarney doing Techno?!?!?! That CD rocks!!!! Really good dubby techno! Almost Fluke-ish if you will. Gotta work! See ya! -Jason -------------------------------------- Date: 6/10/96 3:59 PM To: Jason Green* From: Mark D. Camp Has anyone ever heard of a CD by a group called "The Fireman" titled "Strawberries Oceans Ships Forrests"? Came out in '93 on Capital Records. Someone at work brought it in and he says its Paul McCartney produced by Youth but the CD has no credits listed. The copyrights is Juggler Music which is, from what I'm told, Paul McCartney's Publishing company. The disk is really good!! Slow (100bpm-ish) techno. Can anyone confirm this??? -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with ADMIN;10 Jun 1996 15:57:47 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in2.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA23433; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:59:52 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA08177; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:55:08 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07979; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:51 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07974; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:47 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-120.apple.com [17.128.100.120]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id PAA21320 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:53:35 -0700 Received: from [17.130.22.197] (kip-2-197.apple.com [17.130.22.197]) by scv2.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA08924 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 15:54:14 -0700 Message-Id: <199606102254.PAA08924@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Paul McCarney doing Techno?!?!?! Date: Mon, 10 Jun 96 15:54:32 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "sfraves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 17:00:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA15314; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:00:17 -0700 Received: from umr.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA15301; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:00:13 -0700 Received: from saucer.cc.umr.edu (saucer.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.58]) via ESMTP by hermes.cc.umr.edu (8.7.5/R.4.16) id TAA02109; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:00:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (rkumar@localhost) by saucer.cc.umr.edu (8.6.12/M.3.01) id TAA24611; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:00:09 -0500 Message-Id: <199606110000.TAA24611@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Subject: Re: very sad day To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:00:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "roger kumar" In-Reply-To: from "KaySEE" at Jun 10, 96 12:19:18 pm X-Www-Page: http://www.umr.edu/~rkumar/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Boo hoo :( This is really a sad thing. That was such a cool cafe. They > just never had very much business. If the location was changed, I think > the business would pick up. Did they say anything about moving? > > --kaysee >This sucks. I can only imagine that they were not making enough money. It >seems if they just promoted the place a bit more, they would have done fine. >They should have had a big "come support us night".... I would have gone. >Anyplace that has open dex all the time (except when their are special >DJ's there) should have done well. > >-troy well, i talked to sifu, the rad owner guy, and he said things were just getting too tough.. i don't think the profit margin was very high.. i remember them saying they liked the location (i sure did, out of berkeley a ways..) so i don't think they wanted to move. they didn't want to advertise more either, i don't think.. they liked the quasi-underground word-of-mouth thing and the people that came. it sucks that your momma's is gone :( but i don't think that the owners wanted it saved really. it seemed like they had done what they wanted with the place and were now ready to tackle bigger adventures. look for a string of sifu & magic circle parties all summer long, starting with "the magic circle" this saturday in sf (unfortuantely same time as the new moon party..) respect to those, like merittt, who choose to support the scene and not just suck money from the clubkids. lots of luck to him and his crew, wherever their adventures may take them. see you at the new moon, and hopefully the magic circle as well rkumar@lbl.gov > On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, roger kumar wrote: > > > saturday night/sunday morning there was a "get together" at Your Momma's > > Cafe, on college ave. in oakland. never had i see the place more full, > > and all was good, but then merit stopped the dj and made an anoucement > > > > thanks everyone for comming out, but tonight it the last > > night. then we're closing. > > > > everyone was sad. your momma's and the people there were one of the reasons > > i'm in the bay area again. 6.9.96 was the last time. > > > > -- > > pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted > > _l public keys on server or by request > > -- pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted _l public keys on server or by request From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 17:52:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA19030; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:52:58 -0700 Received: from slip-3.slip.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA19023; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:52:55 -0700 Received: from Spatrickh [206.14.14.141] by slip-3.slip.net with smtp (Exim 0.52 #1) id E0uTHeW-0006al-00; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:49:49 -0700 Message-ID: <31BCC328.50FA@slip.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:51:52 -0700 From: "Patrick R. Hancox" Organization: The Loft Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves CC: jess Subject: Re: Hardcore References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk jess wrote: > How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else > suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? > Let's explore the seedier side of Techno... Finally, a reason to visit L.A. Have you checked out any clubs/hardcore parties down there? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 17:53:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA19071; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:53:14 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA19065; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:53:12 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id RAA15747; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:53:06 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id RAA19532; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:53:04 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:53:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: Basics =) To: michal migurski cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > I have one question: what was the dj lineup between Astral Matrix and Doc > Martin? There was one guy who played some really nice breakbeat... > > -m. I think it might have been DAN. I saw on the list that some guy called the person who does all Dan's bookings and she told him that Dan was booked for Basics on Sat. so maybe that is who you heard doing those phat BBs. RaVe On! -mhg *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= * \ | | \ | * * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * * ____ __ ======================================== * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 17:54:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA19209; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:54:45 -0700 Received: from dons.ac.usfca.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA19203; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:54:42 -0700 Message-Id: <199606110054.RAA19203@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: just saying hello To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:50:14 -0700 (PDT) From: lanima00 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 252 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hello all- just sayin hello from palo alto, where i work now. beautiful day. having fun doing websites. looking foreward to getting out dancing this week. just wanted to share some of my happiness with those that might need it. LOVE!!!! matt l From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 18:21:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA21627; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:21:03 -0700 Received: from slip-3.slip.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA21620; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:21:00 -0700 Received: from Spatrickh [206.14.14.141] by slip-3.slip.net with smtp (Exim 0.52 #1) id E0uTI5l-00005G-00; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:17:57 -0700 Message-ID: <31BCC9C4.248F@slip.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 18:20:05 -0700 From: "Patrick R. Hancox" Organization: The Loft Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves CC: ajtoy Subject: Re: question of the week References: <31BBBCB3.59E2@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Interesting idea with a few problems. Single Owner: This person would be volunteering for all liability, taxes, permits (private property or no you will probably need permits for anything regular), insurance obligations ( any sane major act will not play without coverage) and legal stuff. Small group: Same problems except now you need a consenceous to get anything done. California Schedule S Registered Non-Profit: This is the only way that makes sense. The $100 investment would become shares of stock in privately held not for profit corporation (an arts charity?) The decisions would be made by a Board of Directors or Chief Executive elected by the shareholders. The advantages of this is that the corp. would be legally liable in the event of an incident instead of the shareholders or the board. Since the government is now involved it would a requirement to stay completely above board. (i.e. proper papers, auditing of funds, taxes, maintaince of the facilities, etc.) Were talking real work here. Essentially your are suggesting opening a night club without the walls. Some one would have to devote major time and effort to this project and do it as a part/full time job. Slack off on the details and the property and investment will vanish in the wind fairly quickly. One last thing, If any member were caught in an illegal activity on the grounds the property could be seized under zero-tolerance. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 19:38:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA27642; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:38:02 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA27629; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:37:59 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA21559 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:37:57 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby.vip.best.com (tgrigsby.vip.best.com [205.149.169.221]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA29101 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:37:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 19:37:25 -0700 Message-Id: <199606110237.TAA29101@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Re: first music experience X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >> First favorite song? Hard to remember that far back... "Ho Ho Ho, It's >> Magic". I was 12. I don't suppose anyone knows who the heck sang that one? > > That would be The Cars. Uh oh, get ready... this is where I show a little age... The Cars did a *remake* of the song in question. The song I was referring to came out in the early 70's. And come to think of it, I would have been about 8 years old when it came out... I don't think The Cars did that version. Anyone know who did the original? S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 20:42:01 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA04200; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 20:42:01 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA04181; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 20:41:55 -0700 Received: from [157.22.222.111] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 20:41:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 20:41:50 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Wayne Correia Subject: Re: Basics =) (lineup) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Basics Four Year Anni8versary / Planet Rampant Tour 1996 lineup: Tony Josh Doran Astral Matrix Brownie Doc Martin Garth pax, -w ps: for those of you that liked the Doc Martin/Garth set, there's a chance that it will come out as a 120 minute mixtape... ____________________________________________________________________________ Wayne D. Correia wayne@club.net 900 Tennessee Street TEL: +1.415.826.6000 www.club.net San Francisco CA 94107-3014 FAX: +1.415.826.6100 www.domain.net From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 21:14:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA06839; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:14:39 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA06834; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:14:37 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.66] (Cust2.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.66]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA09984; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606110414.VAA09984@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:16:12 -0800 To: aguevara@compattic.com From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Re: Hardcore Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >I spin Gabber and hardstep/core... All I get is weird looks from my other >techno friends... Say man, get in touch with the Friends and Family people, like Ethan or some of the other SFRavers and see if you can get on the lineup. I'm sure that these people would be open to hearing some Hard Core. Also the Planet Rock promoters (don't recall their Email address, but they're on the list). Or better yet, get together a sound system, and a few of your close friends and put on your OWN parties, make up the flyers, and pass them out. Just remember to go looking for this older dude with a grey beard (Me! :-) and let me have one as well. > >I see a few of the SPAZ DJ's spin Gabber... Yea, Dave Bayer (From SFRaves) spins Gabber also, and he spun at a previous Friends and Family gig. SAY!! Speaking of Friends and Family, when can we expect to see another one. It's been a while sincewe had one, WHAT SAY? Summer is here.... How about an outdoor one...? > >Hmm I guess SF is too laid back to have resident hardcore DJ's(???)... > Yea, faster BPM's in SF just aren't that popular for some reason. The Crunchman From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 21:18:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA07154; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:18:52 -0700 Received: from norway.it.earthlink.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA07146; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:18:49 -0700 Received: from [153.37.82.90] (pool026.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.90]) by norway.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA12096 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:15:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:18:32 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: Basics *--=> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yeah, Whad up yall-- I had a good time too, The place just needed a little bit more fresh air. And too bad they had noise complantes and turned the music down a little (but it went back up later)... Met a few sfravers -hi yall- and my dear Sarvi, This whole time you been readin my mail(maybe you haven't) and I've been talkin to you at parties and you didn't know I was on this list. Well hello agian... Doran kicked ass (me and a few friends got quite a few people jumpin' at the speakers--yeah, I loved it) and so did Doc, I would love to get a tape if it was recorded. Free stuff ws cool since I was in dire need of some munchies and the people were cool too. I am still sore from dancin'...sorry guys no chillin' for me at this party, I loved the music toooo much. Well kidee found it "different" and "more laid back" than the LA parties, but still had a good time. I came away thinkin' I wanted some hardcore too. Is there another MADDNESS planned soon or a good hardcore party goin on soon? I would deffinately go to LA and I know of a few good ones comin up tooo. Peace and love yall, . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 21:31:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA07905; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:31:53 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA07888; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:31:49 -0700 Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA6002 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:31:20 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960611043124.00c2de7c@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:31:24 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "THX1138" Subject: Hey I just Woke Up From....... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey SFR; Just woke up, yeah I know I'm a total vamp with sharp pointy teeth and everything, but what's up tonight? Peace THX1138 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 21:32:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA07984; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:32:29 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA07970; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:32:25 -0700 Received: from well (surfpunk@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA11981; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:31:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Cyr Subject: Re: Paul McCarney doing Techno?!?!?! To: "Mark D. Camp" cc: sfraves In-Reply-To: <199606102254.PAA08924@scv2.apple.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk absolutely Paul McCartney i bought it out of curiousity at the time it came out guess i'll give it a dusting off jim cyr On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, Mark D. Camp wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of a CD by a group called "The Fireman" titled > "Strawberries Oceans Ships Forrests"? Came out in '93 on Capital > Records. Someone at work brought it in and he says its Paul McCartney > produced by Youth but the CD has no credits listed. The copyrights is > Juggler Music which is, from what I'm told, Paul McCartney's Publishing > company. > > The disk is really good!! Slow (100bpm-ish) techno. > > Can anyone confirm this??? > > -M > > ***ASTRONOUT*** > sounds textures beats > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 21:34:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA08160; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:34:44 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA08155; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:34:41 -0700 Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA6059 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:34:12 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960611043416.00c4b8e4@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:34:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "THX1138" Subject: RE: AstralSCAPE INC!!!!!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Heya; Who art thou Astralscape, and why doesth thou throw such large events to start, the NET wants to know? Peace THX1138 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 21:36:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA08260; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:36:17 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA08255; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:36:13 -0700 Received: from well (surfpunk@well.com [206.15.64.10]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id VAA12548; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:36:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Cyr Subject: Re: first music experience To: SDream cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606110237.TAA29101@shellx.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk well, America had a song called You Can do Magic that was an early seventies hit . . . On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > >> First favorite song? Hard to remember that far back... "Ho Ho Ho, It's > >> Magic". I was 12. I don't suppose anyone knows who the heck sang that one? > > > > That would be The Cars. > > Uh oh, get ready... this is where I show a little age... > > The Cars did a *remake* of the song in question. The song I was referring > to came out in the early 70's. And come to think of it, I would have been > about 8 years old when it came out... I don't think The Cars did that version. > > Anyone know who did the original? > > S > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 22:15:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA11466; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:15:52 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA11460; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:15:49 -0700 Received: from unknown (crl12.crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA14458 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:15:50 -0700 From: davidmin@crl.com (David Minuk) To: SDream , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: first music experience Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 05:04:44 GMT Message-Id: <31bcfd1b.7995468@mail.crl.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Awright, Awright... (Gets up from computer, blows dust off of CD collection...) Yep, I have it here somewhere... Ah yes here it is, "Magic" by Pilot, on Super Hits of the 70's, Vol. 14... Hmm, produced by Alan Parsons... Do I have the most annoying record collection on the planet? Not even close... David On Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:36:07 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >well, America had a song called You Can do Magic that was an early >seventies hit . . . > >On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > >> >> First favorite song? Hard to remember that far back... "Ho Ho Ho, It's >> >> Magic". I was 12. I don't suppose anyone knows who the heck sang that one? >> > >> > That would be The Cars. >> >> Uh oh, get ready... this is where I show a little age... >> >> The Cars did a *remake* of the song in question. The song I was referring >> to came out in the early 70's. And come to think of it, I would have been >> about 8 years old when it came out... I don't think The Cars did that version. >> >> Anyone know who did the original? >> >> S >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- David Minuk(davidmin@crl.com) WWW: My URL is http://www.crl.com/~davidmin/ This website is not yet rated. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 22:26:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA12187; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:26:04 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA12169; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:26:00 -0700 Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA7412 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:24:12 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960611052416.00c37cc0@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 22:24:16 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "THX1138" Subject: Well It Look Like Cat's Alley....... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Heya SF; Well it looks like 'm gonna do the feline thang, purrrrrrrrrrr see ya there. Peace THX1138 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 23:10:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA15416; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:10:30 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA15408; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:10:26 -0700 Received: from [206.15.64.130] (sf-tty31-ppp.well.com [206.15.64.130]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id XAA22562 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:10:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: leftjab@mail.well.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:16:16 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: leftjab@well.com (leftjab) Subject: Re: very sad day Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk i spent a few mellow early friday nights the last couple months at your momma's, listening to DJ Rich spin some cool jungle . . . it was a positive space, and maybe that rave-ticket window smashing incident that someone posted about here 2 months ago or so took its toll . . . i wish the owners well . . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 10 23:45:00 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA18183; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:45:00 -0700 Received: from slip-3.slip.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id XAA18175; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:44:57 -0700 Received: from Spatrickh [204.162.173.212] by slip-3.slip.net with smtp (Exim 0.52 #1) id E0uTN9G-0006DB-00; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:41:54 -0700 Message-ID: <31BD15B2.562A@slip.net> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:44:02 -0700 From: "Patrick R. Hancox" Organization: The Loft Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves CC: "Nancy W. Wolfe" Subject: Re: something I found & liked References: <199606102210.AA09100@bolero.rahul.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Nancy W. Wolfe wrote: > > It is in the fiction section because it is so > controversial. She was not allowed to bring anything with her so she was > not able to write anything down. This is why people doubt her, but as you > read, you can feel in your heart that this woman had an absolutely amazing > experience. Mutant Message From Down Under Marlo Morgan, HarperCollins, (240p) ISBN 0-06-017192-8 It is in the fiction sectione because she lied and was discovered. Several newspapers checked the authors pasport records. She wasn't even in Austraila at the time the walkabout 'happened'. This was not an honorable woman. check http://gnew.gn.apc.org/inquirer/news.html for a copy of the press release. The world is to damn interesting to have to lie about it. Patrick From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 00:00:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA20218; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:00:45 -0700 Received: from redshift.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA20063; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:00:36 -0700 Received: from [165.227.94.104] (red104.redshift.com [165.227.94.104]) by redshift.com (8.7.5/8.7.4) with SMTP id AAA12176 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:00:32 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:05:25 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: tim@redshift.com (Tim Gotch) Subject: Re: Paul McCarney doing Techno?!?!?! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yup, that's right. Paul McCartney & Youth. Weird but good. Tim >Has anyone ever heard of a CD by a group called "The Fireman" titled >"Strawberries Oceans Ships Forrests"? Came out in '93 on Capital >Records. Someone at work brought it in and he says its Paul McCartney >produced by Youth but the CD has no credits listed. The copyrights is >Juggler Music which is, from what I'm told, Paul McCartney's Publishing >company. > >The disk is really good!! Slow (100bpm-ish) techno. > >Can anyone confirm this??? > >-M > > ***ASTRONOUT*** > sounds textures beats Tim Gotch tim@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~tim Hyper Design Technologies hdt@redshift.com http://www.redshift.com/~hdt 395 Del Monte Ctr. #128 Monterey, CA 93940 nothing is true, everything is permitted From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 00:24:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA23153; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:24:13 -0700 Received: from SanMateo01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA23148; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:24:08 -0700 Received: from pythagoras.pythagoras.org ([205.158.215.178]) by SanMateo01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.1 ID# 0-11029) with SMTP id AAB8401; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:24:01 -0700 X-Sender: andy-pythagoras@sanmateo01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.1.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 00:24:30 -0700 To: blkadder@value.net, Geoff White From: andy@pythagoras.org (Andrew Nourse) Subject: Re: question of the week Cc: ajtoy , sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-ID: <19960611072400.AAB8401@pythagoras.pythagoras.org> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >>>How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land >>>somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? Perhaps some people might lease some of the land around the edge of the property and live on it. (They don't get to complain about noise, of course). That would cover some of the carrying costs and help to ensure that the place didn't get trashed. I agree with the suggestion that it be a non-profit or not-for-profit entity. We are not intending it to be a business, after all. I'm sure there is a way we could make this work. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 03:41:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id DAA13606; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:23 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA13598; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:21 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA16163; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: Saturday Tibet Show Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Hi folks - > > As for meeting up at the Polo Fields - I have no experience with the Polo >Fields , so if someone could recommend a meeting place, I'd be waiting there. >To make things easy , I'll be wearing my SFRaves laminates. And sunblocker, >but you won't be able to see that... I don't know them either... I guess I'll just be floating around. Maybe we should take a cue from Jan, Bryan and Sarvi and meet in the general area of the right front speaker? -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 03:41:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id DAA13631; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:34 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA13625; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:32 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id DAA08260; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 03:41:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: kcroy From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: Hardcore Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >the kind that makes you want to see >people in riot gear >trying to deal with you LOL! I love juicy tidbits like this; rock critic-style writing is so fun to read! -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 04:00:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA16972; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:48 -0700 Received: from netcom4.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA16967; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:45 -0700 Received: (from madox@localhost) by netcom4.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id EAA12711; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 04:00:44 -0700 (PDT) From: EERiE Subject: Re: question of the week To: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk about this land thing, if it does happen, would be cool if it could be an open space without too many trees, so that way some of us who are working on their pilots license could fly and land there.... ;) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 06:07:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id GAA25803; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:07:42 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA25798; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:07:39 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id GAA13474; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:07:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:07:36 -0700 Message-Id: <199606111307.GAA13474@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: andy@pythagoras.org (Andrew Nourse) From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: Re: question of the week Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >>>>How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land >>>>somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? > >Perhaps some people might lease some of the land around the edge of the >property >and live on it. (They don't get to complain about noise, of course). That >would >cover some of the carrying costs and help to ensure that the place didn't >get trashed. > >I agree with the suggestion that it be a non-profit or not-for-profit entity. >We are not intending it to be a business, after all. > >I'm sure there is a way we could make this work. I agree with black adder this is a good idea butr has to be handled right, the main thing that has to be engineered into the deal is how to deal with conflict and disagreements among the share-holders, land stewards, neighbors, etc. It's all good when parties agree, but the test of any venture is how the whole thing fares when people disagree. It's been my experiencve that the more people involved the bigger the problem (which is why the USofA with all its problems, is still somewhat of a miracle that something this size with this many points of view hasn't melted down yet, no flames please :) In any event, the US has a constitution, businesses have contracts, lawyers make money off of people, and entitites that disagree, how do we handle disagreement so as to minimize: 1) Factionalization 2) Lawsuites 3) General Nastiness 4) Control by an Elite In many respects, having the land owned by a small number of people makes the most sense logistically speaking (which I guess could be said to be the Republican view :), that way it is easier to have the 5 - 10 people debate or vote or whatever and come to a decision. Being in business for myself now, I can see how almost everyting in America is set up to enable business and the flow of commerce, I think it needs to be a business if only to protect the owners from liability if someone is hurt on the land. These are the issues that really have to be thought of if you want this to be a reality. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 06:25:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id GAA27082; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:25:47 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA27074; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:25:45 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id GAA13495; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:25:47 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 06:25:47 -0700 Message-Id: <199606111325.GAA13495@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: HouseNation (was Question of the week) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk A while back a few of us were bantering around a similar concept that we were calling the HouseNation. It essentially was to get a parcel of land in Northern California (more like 200 rather than 2 acres). Were we could build some form of intentional community as we all grew older. Part of the idea was to build the beginnings in CyberSpace (a "virtual site") and then eventually link the virtual world with the physical place. This is not to far fetched with the availability of T1 via satellite and T3 via wireless microwave, one could have quite a rural cybernetic community with plenty of bandwidth to link it to the rest of the planet. I've been musing about what it would take to "wire" the TF site with a _serious_ internet link (ISDN or greater). My guess is that the problem is in the "last mile" or local loop. There is probably sufficient Telco infrastructure up to a place like willetts but then getting massive bits out to the boonies would take some form of wireless transmission. 56K is no problem but we're talking 45 - 100 Mbits here :) Anyway I think is good if the rave community starts to think in this direction, ultimately if you want to have something lasting you need to have some form of infrastructure and land (in America at least) is an important component. G From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 07:48:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA04649; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 07:48:05 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA04638; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 07:48:02 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca5-22.ix.netcom.com [199.182.129.182]) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA24835 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 07:47:29 -0700 Message-ID: <31BD8782.6666@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 07:49:38 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: The South Bay/ Central Coast Scene Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk To The List: I went to my first event on May 31- June 1st (Moontribe's FULL MOON GATHERING) In the desert near Barstow. I went with my best friend Jeff and his two friends, Kerry and Celine. I was blown away by the positive vibe there! Jeff said that the scene in Northern California is probably a bit on the more spiritual on chill side and that it would probably suit me better. I also did E that nite for the 1st time. So as you can imagine, I had a fuckin' GREAT time. What I want to know is this: Is there any kind of scene in the South Bay (S. Jose/ Santa Cruz) or Monterey Bay/ Salinas area? If not, why not? The area is beautiful and significantly more remote than the city (probably fewer noise problems). I know it would mean that some of you city folk would have to drive south once in a while but what I've gotten so far from the scene is that people don't mind driving long distances if they think they will have a good time. After all, we drove 3 hours to get to MOONTRIBE! It was the shit! I would be willing to work for free (passing out flyers, making calls, etc.) to get more of a scene here in the south. I know there are very good DJ's here in the south that would probably like to have a larger home scene. Santa Cruz, Monterey, Carmel, Big Sur... these all have a long history of being cities that inspire the best in human nature, beauty, environmental consciousness, really positive energy all around. So to any would be promoters out there, how about it? Check out the Pinnacles (Near Soledad- It's Fuckin' Beautiful, Man!) How about Fremonts Peak, Arroyo Seco, Toro Park, etc. If you would like, E-mail me about volunteering, or if you are in the south bay and know the scene, drop me a line, I'd love to be part of it and help it to grow. Hasta. PEACE. -Aaron (That Guy In Santa Cruz) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 08:08:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA06697; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:08:14 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA06688; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:08:10 -0700 From: blkadder@value.net Received: (from blkadder@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id IAA12341; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:08:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:08:02 -0700 (PDT) To: Geoff White cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: HouseNation (was Question of the week) In-Reply-To: <199606111325.GAA13495@precipice.v-site.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Geoff White wrote: > A while back a few of us were bantering around a similar concept that > we were calling the HouseNation. It essentially was to get a parcel of land > in Northern California (more like 200 rather than 2 acres). Were we could build > some form of intentional community as we all grew older. Part of the idea was > to build the beginnings in CyberSpace (a "virtual site") and then eventually > link the virtual world with the physical place. This is not to far fetched with > the availability of T1 via satellite and T3 via wireless microwave, one could > have quite a rural cybernetic community with plenty of bandwidth to link it to > the rest of the planet. I've been musing about what it would take to > "wire" the TF site with a _serious_ internet link (ISDN or greater). My guess > is that the problem is in the "last mile" or local loop. There is probably > sufficient Telco infrastructure up to a place like willetts but then getting > massive bits out to the boonies would take some form of wireless transmission. > 56K is no problem but we're talking 45 - 100 Mbits here :) Well, not quite T-3 but there are a couple of new spread spectrum transmitters that are supposed to be pretty spiffy. Internex will be bringing one out to Burning Man. Black Adder From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 08:18:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA07575; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:18:05 -0700 Received: from ns.org.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA07554; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:18:01 -0700 Received: from Tim.isinc.insignia.com ([205.231.223.101]) by ns.org.org (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA09798 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:17:55 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960610151935.0068928c@email.org> X-Sender: knucklehead@email.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 08:19:35 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "Tim (Knucklehead)" Subject: The Communal Land thing Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Here's something to think about. If about 3 to 5 of the collectives get together as well as the few people that want to donate the $100 or more, buy a big enough piece of land to have 2-3 parties on it without the conflict of noise from one party to the other, this would work. One person from each collective and one or two people to represent the few that donated the $100 bucks or more would be the "Main" people in charge of the space and as far as any issues that arouse from having the land. There will be say a $20-$30 dollar charge to get onto the property if there's say 2 or 3 parties on the land at the same time. For those who donated they would have a pass to get in for free. Of course if there is only one party then the price would be lower. People would have a choice to goto any party they wanted. There would be a main parking area and if the wanted to go from party to party they would have to walk to each one or have a communal bus thing going. Whatever money was collected would go towards up keep and whatever for that land. As far as what parties or thrown on any specific dates, there would be a meeting of the 3 to 5 people from the collectives and the 1 or 2 people representing all the others that donated and they would vote. With a big enough space to have 2 or 3 parties far enough from each other so that the music wouldn't conlfict at any other space, I think it can workout. We also could have a building or 2 built on the site for when it get into the rainy seasons. We have alot of resources here on SFRaves, many people with many talents. People that are in contruction, computers, electricians, doctors, lawyers and half a dozen other occupations that can help out with anything. Let utilize these people and make this happen. We can do it if we all get involve and help in any way we can. Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 08:30:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA08819; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:30:16 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA08808; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:30:13 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA28226 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for sfraves@hyperreal.com); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:26:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:26:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathryn Ankrum To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Celebrating The Good Doctor... (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk FYI...I got this from someone in my office. Kathryn >>Mime-Version: 1.0 >>Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:29:19 -0700 >>To: barlow@eff.org >>From: John Perry Barlow >>Subject: Celebrating The Good Doctor... >> >> >>Hola, >> >>There will be a gathering to celebrate the astonishing life of Dr. Timothy >>Leary at 7 p.m. Wednesday, June 12 at the First Unitarian Church (corner of >>Geary and Franklin) in San Francisco. Various noted acid-heads and friends >>of liberty will reminisce and perform. >> >>Please come by if you'd like to honor the memory of this great >>prophet-charlatan, the bravest man I ever knew. You'll find excellent >>company at this event, including my own. >> >>Hope to see you there. >> >>John Perry >> >> >> >>P.S. Please pass this on to anyone who you think might be interested. Feel >>also free to post it. Indeed, feel also free... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>**************************************************************** >>John Perry Barlow, Cognitive Dissident >>Co-Founder, Electronic Frontier Foundation >> >>Home(stead) Page: http://www.eff.org/~barlow >> >>Message Service: 800/634-3542 >> >>Barlow in Meatspace Today: Los Angeles >> >>Coming soon to: San Francisco 6/12, Stockholm 6/13-15, Lulea, Sweden >>6/16-17, Pinedale, Wyoming 6/18-23, Utah Deserts 6/23-? >> >>In Memoriam, Dr. Cynthia Horner, Jerry Garcia, and Timothy Leary >> >>***************************************************************** >> >>There's so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets? >> >> -- Dick Cavett >> >> > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 08:38:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA09519; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:38:26 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA09514; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:38:23 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA01378 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:37:04 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA22325; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:36:49 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA09907; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:36:47 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:38:42 -0700 To: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Re: first music experience Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Uh oh, get ready... this is where I show a little age... > >The Cars did a *remake* of the song in question. The song I was referring >to came out in the early 70's. And come to think of it, I would have been >about 8 years old when it came out... I don't think The Cars did that version. > >Anyone know who did the original? > >S It was definitely not The Cars; they never did any remakes. I know exactly which song you have in mind, but I can't recall who did it... - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 08:42:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA09975; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:42:36 -0700 Received: from icarus.cms.shu.ac.uk by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA09959; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 08:42:28 -0700 X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 11-Jun-1996 16:41:11 -0400; at Icarus.cms X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 11-Jun-1996 16:41:05 -0400; at CMS To: Sfraves@hyperreal.com Message-Id: Subject: Hello from England From: G.C.Osguthorpe@shu.ac.uk (GILLIAN OSGUTHORPE) Date: 11 Jun 96 16:40:55 EDT References: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi there SF party-goers, My boyfriend & I will be coming from Sheffield in England to San Francisco next week for two weeks. We'll be out and about getting a taste of SF's nightlife (and daylife) and would love to meet up with some SFravers at techno, hardhouse, drum 'n bass, ambient and other clubs/parties. Hope to hear from you... Love Gill. PS. all information/advice on the best (and cheap!) places to stay in SF and surrounding areas would be greatly appreciated! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 09:08:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA12639; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:08:59 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA12631; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:08:57 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id JAA14741; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:08:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 09:08:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" cc: michal migurski , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Basics =) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > I have one question: what was the dj lineup between Astral Matrix and Doc > > Martin? There was one guy who played some really nice breakbeat... > I think it might have been DAN. I saw on the list that some guy > called the person who does all Dan's bookings and she told him that Dan > was booked for Basics on Sat. so maybe that is who you heard doing those > phat BBs. No, it was Chris Brown from Rampant, aka Brownie from LA. I talked to DJ Dan there, but I know he didn't spin. He just told Paul (his booking agent) that he was playing there so he could hang out and not have to spin that night :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 10:12:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA19567; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:12:58 -0700 Received: from psiwa5.Syntex.Com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA19559; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:12:55 -0700 Received: (from marisaw@localhost) by psiwa5.Syntex.Com (8.6.12/8.6.9) id KAA06293; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:09:24 -0700 From: Marisa Giancarla Message-Id: <199606111709.KAA06293@psiwa5.Syntex.Com> Subject: Re: Hardcore To: kcroy@best.com (kcroy) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com (sfraves) In-Reply-To: <199606102007.NAA20913@shellx.best.com> from "kcroy" at Jun 10, 96 01:07:57 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 648 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > > > How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else > > suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? I know the feeling. I really only get into techno when it has a 4/4 beat and is at least 180bpm, with lots of sampled screams thrown in a big plus. Since I moved to the bay area I have pretty much given up on hearing this kind of stuff "live", and I am making do importing gabber from germany & rotterdam. The LA label Cleopatra (and their sub label Hypnotic) do put out a few moderately hardcore compilation albums, "Terrortrance" and "Trance Hardcore" being two of my favorites. Marisa From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 10:32:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA21496; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:32:03 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA21476; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:31:59 -0700 Received: from [205.231.222.75] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:31:57 -0700 X-Sender: knucklehead@mail.domain.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: knucklehead@club.net ("Knucklehead") Subject: NRR..for tech support Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:31:57 -0700 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This is for all you tech support people out there...have a laugh. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Caller: "Hello, is this Tech Support?" Tech Rep: "Yes, it is. How may I help you?" Caller: "The cup holder on my PC is broken and I am within my warranty period. How do I go about getting that fixed?" Tech Rep: "I'm sorry, but did you say a cup holder?" Caller: "Yes, it's attached to the front of my computer." Tech Rep: "Please excuse me if I seem a bit stumped, it's because I am. Did you receive this as part of a promotional, at a trade show? How did you get this cup holder? Does it have any trademark on it?" Caller: "It came with my computer, I don't know anything about a promotional. It just has '4X' on it." At this point the Tech Rep had to mute the caller, because he couldn't stand it. The caller had been using the load drawer of the CD-ROM drive as a cup holder, and snapped it off the drive. Oops! Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 10:55:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA23720; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:09 -0700 Received: from ormail.intel.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA23712; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:06 -0700 Received: from relay.jf.intel.com (relay.jf.intel.com [134.134.131.6]) by ormail.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22148 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ccmgate@localhost) by relay.jf.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA03176 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ccm.hf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #7) Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:54:58 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:33:00 PDT From: SteveX Morgan Message-ID: To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: my first music experience.. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ahhhhhhh yes..... Gotta say my first fave was "Fernando" by ABBA...... I *STILL* love that song...Anyone else? Steve "Cool it now" was pretty nice too... "I said Ronny...Bobby...Rikki & Mike..." :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 10:55:46 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA23783; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:46 -0700 Received: from ormail.intel.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA23777; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:42 -0700 Received: from relay.jf.intel.com (relay.jf.intel.com [134.134.131.6]) by ormail.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id KAA22423 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from ccmgate@localhost) by relay.jf.intel.com (8.7.4/8.7.3) id KAA03325 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 10:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by ccm.hf.intel.com (ccmgate 3.2 #7) Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:55:34 PDT Date: Tue, 11 Jun 96 10:33:00 PDT From: SteveX Morgan Message-ID: To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re[2]: question of the week Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Text item: On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, ajtoy wrote: > To everyone on tha list: > How would you feel about putting up $100 to own part of a parcel of land > somewhere in Nor-Calif for the specific purpose of having raves? If 100 > hardcore ravers kicked in $100, that would be $10,000 to go toward the > purchase of an acre or 2 (in a desolate but beautiful area). I can dig it...count me in for a coupla' slabs. >I think a hundred owners definetly have the potential to work >cooperatively. >From the community vibe I've seen on this list, there's no question. > > It has just seemed to me that there are so many good people out there > that want to have a good time and all too often they have to be anxious > about the vibe. No Doubt! It's a tragedy to be inside a party having a Incredible time, and not being able to COMPLETELY GO-OFF because your worried about either your car, your personal safety (i.e. thuggies wit da' 'tude), or the fact that you just threw down 25$ for a party that you fear will git busted... When ALL those factors are eliminated (or the chances greatly reduced), you have the ability to feel TRUE freedom, and let go of your cares and hang-ups for that moment in time. You can experience Timelessness...And for me, that's what the FEELING of ecstacy it's all about. The more negative things that can be eliminated from an experience/situation, the better...especially in times of altered conciousness. The greatest defining factor between a bad trip and a good one is surroundings... (Aside from massive excess of course ;) Let's git it on! Steve (just how many Steves are on this list anyway..... ? :) Text item: External Message Header The following mail header is for administrative use and may be ignored unless there are problems. ***IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS SAVE THESE HEADERS***. Precedence: bulk Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <31BBBCB3.59E2@ix.netcom.com> cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com To: ajtoy Subject: Re: question of the week From: Tom Leichardt Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from djtom@localhost) by svpal.svpal.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA06464; M on, 10 Jun 1996 12:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from svpal.svpal.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13671; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:20:12 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA13694; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:2 0:18 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA13833; Mon, 10 Jun 1996 12:2 1:37 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com by imssc1.sc.intel.com (8.7.4/10.0i); Mon, 10 J un 1996 19:53:44 GMT Received: from imssc1.sc.intel.com by ccmgate1.sc.intel.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #3) id m0uTD0P-000S2Ha; Mon, 10 Jun 96 12:52 WET DST From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 11:04:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA24818; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:04:09 -0700 Received: from elaine50.Stanford.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA24806; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:04:03 -0700 Received: (from senator@localhost) by elaine50.Stanford.EDU (8.7.5/8.7.3) id LAA25141; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:03:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Cassandra Ann Thomas To: Jonathan Mark Logan cc: friends&family Subject: Re: orbital In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I will be there with a couple of other friends :) Cassandra On Sun, 9 Jun 1996, Jonathan Mark Logan wrote: > > I stood in line for 30 minutes today with a bunch of Dave Matthews Band > fans and got my slimy hands on a ticket to the Orbital > show on the 24th at the Fillmore. Woohoo! > > Any other SFravers going? > > jon > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 11:14:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA26034; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:14:24 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA26023; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:14:20 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id LAA04037; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606111814.LAA04037@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Rick Riffle Subject: Orbital Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I'm trying to find out if there is anywhere to buy tickets for the June 24 event besides bass with the stupid $6.50 services charges crap. Rick From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 11:57:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA00868; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:57:37 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA00857; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:57:33 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA01357 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:57:32 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby (tgrigsby.us.dhl.com [199.41.137.104]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA23957 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:50:34 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:50:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199606111850.LAA23957@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! It makes me freak! If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 12:05:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA01732; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:05:40 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA01726; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:05:37 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA18312; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:05:35 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby (tgrigsby.us.dhl.com [199.41.137.104]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA23880; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:50:29 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 11:50:29 -0700 Message-Id: <199606111850.LAA23880@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Jim Cyr From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Re: first music experience Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >well, America had a song called You Can do Magic that was an early >seventies hit . . . No, this goes back further than that. Geez, my wrinkles are showing... S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 12:07:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA01941; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:07:05 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA01933; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:07:02 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA17357; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:06:57 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:06:57 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: SDream cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... In-Reply-To: <199606111850.LAA23957@shellx.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where > to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes > me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound > like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, > two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! > It makes me freak! Sounds like about a billion songs :) Do you remember who was playing it? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 12:35:01 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA05133; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:35:01 -0700 Received: from tango.rahul.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA05091; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:34:38 -0700 Received: from bolero.rahul.net by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA27022 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:34:06 -0700 Received: from [206.61.226.222] (c222.rahul.net) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP id AA17185 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:34:02 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:34:02 -0700 Message-Id: <199606111934.AA17185@bolero.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: wolfe@rahul.net (Nancy W. Wolfe) Subject: Re: funny! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >here are some funny ones... > > > Do chickens think rubber humans are funny? > > Do Roman paramedics refer to IV's as "4s"? > > Do indecisive squids discharge erasable ink? > > Does distressed leather come from very tense cows? > > Does the French militia use Dijon mustard gas? > > How can there be self-help "groups"? > > If someone with multiple personalities threatens to kill himself, > is it considered a hostage situation? > > If the #2 pencil is the most popular, why's it still #2? > > Instead of talking to your plants, if you yelled at them would > they still grow, but only to be troubled and insecure? > > Is there another word for synonym? > > Is there such a thing as dried fruit flies? > > Should animal shampoo be tested on humans? > > Why isn't there mouse-flavored cat food? > > Why don't more masked robbers hold up ski lodges? > > Why are builders afraid to have a 13th floor but book publishers > aren't afraid to have a Chapter 11? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 12:55:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA07321; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:55:42 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA07303; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:55:37 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA05101 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:55:42 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA13364 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:53:45 -0700 From: Sharif Torpis Message-Id: <199606111953.AA13364@crl.crl.com> Subject: Re: we are back... To: beatkeeper@beatbox.com (beatkeeper) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <31BADB60.ECE@beatbox.com> from "beatkeeper" at Jun 9, 96 03:10:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 165 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > our return transmission begins... > TODAY: june 9nd, 1996 6:00pm eastern on the WWW > http://www.beatbox.com Can you give us some more notice next time? Thanks. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 13:34:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA11312; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:16 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11306; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:13 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id NAA18708; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:06 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id NAA14562; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: orbital To: Cassandra Ann Thomas cc: Jonathan Mark Logan , friends&family In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Do you know how much the tickets are for the June 24th show @ the Fillmore? -mhg _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* * \ | | \ | * * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * * ____ __ ======================================== * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 13:57:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA13548; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:57:19 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA13541; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:57:15 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id NAA27304; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606112057.NAA27304@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" From: Rick Riffle Subject: Re: orbital Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I think I remember Bass saying they were $20 + $39,487,800.46 for the service charge. I also heard you can buy them at the Fillmore box office without the extra charge. Supposedly the boxoffice is only open on Sunday for a couple of hours. I'd call to verify. Rick At 01:34 PM 6/11/96 -0700, you wrote: >Do you know how much the tickets are for the June 24th show @ the Fillmore? > >-mhg > > >_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* >* \ | | \ | * >* |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * >*_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * >* mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * >* ____ __ ======================================== >* \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== >* <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== >* _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== >* | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== >* | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= >* +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== >* ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * >*_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 15:23:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA22914; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:23:04 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA22894; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:23:00 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA24632; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:22:46 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA00190; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:21:49 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 11 Jun 1996 15:19:50 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: orbital To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" , "Cassandra Ann Thomas" Cc: "friends&family" , "Jonathan Mark Logan" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 b2 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>>orbital Twenty-four smackers. I haven't acually picked my ticket up from my friend, so I don't know if this is before or after Bass takes its unfair share, but I would think it to be after... See ya there! -Jason -------------------------------------- Date: 6/11/96 1:44 PM To: Jason Green* From: -=]madame mercury[=- Do you know how much the tickets are for the June 24th show @ the Fillmore? -mhg _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* * \ | | \ | * * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * * ____ __ ======================================== * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with SMTP;11 Jun 1996 13:40:33 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in2.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA06642; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:42:27 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA11470; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:35:36 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA11312; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:16 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA11306; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:13 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id NAA18708; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:06 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id NAA14562; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:05 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 13:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: orbital To: Cassandra Ann Thomas cc: Jonathan Mark Logan , friends&family In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 15:28:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA23352; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:28:04 -0700 Received: from SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA23347; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:28:01 -0700 Received: from INX-10225.planet-jubip.com ([205.158.224.135]) by SanFrancisco01.POP.InterNex.Net (post.office MTA v1.9.3 ID# 0-11028) with SMTP id AAA3969; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:27:32 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960611222735.00c2eab4@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net> X-Sender: INX-10225b@sanfrancisco01.pop.internex.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 15:27:35 -0700 To: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) From: "THX1138" Subject: Re: HouseNation (was Question of the week) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey There, Hi There, Ho There; I'm more partial to Trance Nation or Techno Nation meself = > Peace THX1138 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 16:10:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA27066; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:10:19 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA27048; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:10:11 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id QAA20660; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:09:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 16:09:55 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: Erik cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: important chem bros show info!! In-Reply-To: <199606112239.SAA04606@dcez.dcez.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > any half-assed promoter never promotes shows that aren't 100% confirmed. > > I blame the Space Children ENTIRELY! That's a great attitude. Sometimes DJs, bands, and promoters, SAY they can do a gig, but later flake or find something better. What if YOU were throwing a party, people SAID they could make it, and then later changed their minds, AFTER you printed flyers. The people you should be pissed at are the promoters like the assholes who throw Plastik that say "All DJs are confirmed" the night of the party and then none of the good ones show up. Cosmic and Laetitia are good people, and all of their other parties have gone off well. They really had no control over this... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 20:35:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA19481; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:35:51 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA19468; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:35:45 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id UAA14907; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:35:45 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 20:35:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199606120335.UAA14907@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: blkadder@value.net From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: Re: HouseNation (was Question of the week) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >> the availability of T1 via satellite and T3 via wireless microwave, one could >> have quite a rural cybernetic community with plenty of bandwidth to link it to >> the rest of the planet. I've been musing about what it would take to >> "wire" the TF site with a _serious_ internet link (ISDN or greater). My guess >> is that the problem is in the "last mile" or local loop. There is probably >> sufficient Telco infrastructure up to a place like willetts but then getting >> massive bits out to the boonies would take some form of wireless transmission. >> 56K is no problem but we're talking 45 - 100 Mbits here :) > >Well, not quite T-3 but there are a couple of new spread spectrum >transmitters that are supposed to be pretty spiffy. Internex will be >bringing one out to Burning Man. > Tell Marcos I hope he gets it right this time :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 21:19:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA22729; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:19:52 -0700 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA22722; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 21:19:48 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id AAA13757; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:19:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:19:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960612001928_325562604@emout14.mail.aol.com> To: ajtoy@ix.netcom.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 96-06-10 02:54:08 EDT, you write: << Non-owners would kick in a $10-$20 donation. >> Thats were the money comes in. Who would hold this money? What would it be used for? Who would spend it? Who would be in charge of it???? Jonathan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 22:07:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA26213; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:07:33 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA26207; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:07:31 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca9-02.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.98]) by dfw-ix12.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA17947; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:06:56 -0700 Message-ID: <31BE50EF.9D9@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:09:03 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jondabomb@aol.com CC: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week References: <960612001928_325562604@emout14.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Jondabomb@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 96-06-10 02:54:08 EDT, you write: > > << Non-owners would kick in a $10-$20 > donation. > >> > Thats were the money comes in. Who would hold this money? What would it be > used for? Who would spend it? Who would be in charge of it???? > Jonathan [snip] jonathon- the $ would be used for paying for misc expenses such as equip rentals (music, porta potties, medical supplies, etc.) dj's,food,permits, flyers, prmotional costs, prop taxes, etc. a governing board would be elected by vote (each owner would have an equal say). the $ would be held by a member of the board and deposited into the common bank account set up for the "site" expenses. each owner would only be in $100. after a few successful events, each person would break even and any subsequent events would (hopefully) operate at a break even or a nominal profit which would go back into the collective fund. I know it may seem rather "hippie-ish" to you; all this talk of communal sharing and positive energy and idealism, but I truly feel that if enough people got together and lived more of their conscious lives "as tho they were on E" something special could happen, even if only for a short time. I'd like to be able to look back 10 yrs from now and think to myself... " that was the best hundred bucks I ever spent. The magic didn't last long but man... it sure was GREAT while it lasted! " [PEACE] -- Aaron From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 22:14:00 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA26676; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:14:00 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA26670; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:13:57 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA04737 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:13:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:13:36 -0400 Message-ID: <960612011336_133168349@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Room/Roommate search, Berkely/sf Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi all! I'm looking for either for a roommate to get a place, or a room in a current space. Communalish living in a house would be optimum. I'm very into making home, well, home. My price range is the tough one, since I'll be schooling full time I have to try to stay as low as possible, like under 350/mo, preferebly less. Regarding area: I have a car, and will get a motorcycle, my school is on the berkely/oakland border. I would like to live close to the school, but would consider living in SF if I found the right place. Thanks lots, Love, Steveo From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 22:14:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA26707; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:14:04 -0700 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA26690; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:14:00 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA12546 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:13:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:13:38 -0400 Message-ID: <960612011338_133168399@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Sat:Good ol fashn' Sacto House Party Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk For all ya'll in/near Sacramento not going to Liquid Groove, come on by 19th and G (Downtown Sacto) Saturday afternoon/evening. We'll should be chillin & Grillin out back around 6ish and firing up the decks about 9. Rigatony, myself, fillip & whoever the hell else will be administering tunage, POSSIBLY some ambience after 3 or so. There also might be a guest performance by the 9to5's, (a real nutty surf RNB band, very non-rave but very fun) early in the evening. I would like to see a drum circle get going on the porch, (oh my neighbors love it when I do that), but we'll just play it by ear. (get it? :) Probably wont be anything collosal (hopefully) but certainly cozy, nutty and fun. Alright then let's review: This Sat, BBQ, Beats, Band, Drums, 6PM-?. Be there. Love & Life, Steveo 916 443 8225 for more info. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 22:14:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA26729; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:14:09 -0700 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA26706; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 22:14:04 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA13923 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:13:47 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 01:13:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960612011347_133168459@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Sac:Mama of all Yard Sales:Rekids,clothes,art&more Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Dateline Sacramento: This Saturday, Steveo (1901 G st-Sac) will be launching an all out bonanza of a Yard Sale. I'm moving to the bay soon and I need to let loose lots of shit. I'll have a crate or two of records, nothing real good, lots of 90-93 house. (Not that 90-93 house sucks) Clothes, Art, Nick-nacks galore, a big bed, two sets of crappy home spekkers, books, two chests full of stuffed animals, semi-crap stereo equip. & more! Deals & Deals & Deals! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 23:26:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA02190; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:26:13 -0700 Received: from vmar.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA02184; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:26:09 -0700 Received: from [157.22.240.192] by vmar.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.0); Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:31:35 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:26:43 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Vince Subject: Re: cops Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >yup, there definetly are good cops and bad cops. so he tells >us that what were doing is illegal, but he didnt want to bust the party, >saying he had better things to do {snip} OK, just a quick cop story. We went to the 11th street block party on Sat night to try and see George Clinton get *phunky*, (but we got there late). We stuck around for a few hours dancing in the street to some funky old disco. Every officer I saw that night was smiling, we dressed up a bit too, so they kinda had to smile or even laugh at us. Some were even shakin' it up a bit. I saw folks even lighting up right in front of the police. One officer motioned to a guy to put it away, others just let it go. It was pretty cool to groove with the police all around, without feeling any pressure from them, and with the amount of alcohol consummed by many of the patrons that night, I'm kinda glad they were there (just in case). So is this the product of a new Mayor and DA ?? just a thought. Vince From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 23:39:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA03027; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:39:16 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA03021; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:39:14 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA21387; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:39:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id XAA29045; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:39:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:39:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: roger kumar cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: very sad day In-Reply-To: <199606101758.MAA13055@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Wow, this makes me so sad, I have gone there many a time to get away and chill in a really inviting environ...I send my thanks to the owners of your mamas for all the nice times I have had there, I hope that they are moving on to something better...I wish there were something to fill the gap that I will fell by this special cafe being closed. * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Mon, 10 Jun 1996, roger kumar wrote: > saturday night/sunday morning there was a "get together" at Your Momma's > Cafe, on college ave. in oakland. never had i see the place more full, > and all was good, but then merit stopped the dj and made an anoucement > > thanks everyone for comming out, but tonight it the last > night. then we're closing. > > everyone was sad. your momma's and the people there were one of the reasons > i'm in the bay area again. 6.9.96 was the last time. > > -- > pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted > _l public keys on server or by request > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Tue Jun 11 23:41:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA03146; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:41:24 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA03140; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:41:21 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA28219; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id XAA29124; Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:41:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 23:41:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: John Draper cc: jess , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Hardcore In-Reply-To: <199606102108.OAA08994@mh1.well.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk did anyone see sven vath in april?...I am jonesing for more of that...im in! * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, John Draper wrote: > >So here's my idea - we choose a cool event in LA and carpool down there > >for the weekend - it's really only a six 1/2 hour drive and we could rage > >in LA the day after - > > > >Whaddya say? > > > > YAY!!! Lets do it... I dig HardCore... But it just don't exist up > here... > > Crunchman > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 00:09:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA07225; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:09:27 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA07220; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:09:24 -0700 Received: from [157.22.222.111] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:09:17 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:09:15 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Wayne Correia Subject: NRR: finally: our tongues pierced! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi friends, Marcy and I got our tongues pierced yesterday evening at Body Manipulations, here in SF. It was kind of a birthday present to each other (mine: May 11th, hers, June 9th). Since then we've been on a diet of Advil for the swelling and shakes, smoothies, soup, and other blendables for a couple days for nutrition. Tonite we ventured out to Hamburger Mary's and got something resembling food. It was pretty strange learning to eat again now that we have these steel bars running through the middle of our tongues. Marcy was amazed how well I was eating all these mostly-solid foods while she was having some problems. Then we got home and she realized that she forgot to take her Advil just before we left. Oops -- huge swollen tongue error! :-) We'll see you this weekend at the New Moon party on Saturday night! (more info: ) -w&m ps: Thanks to the hundreds of people that sang her 'happy birthday' at Basics last Saturday night/Sunday morning after the music was over. It was her three month anniversary of raving and her birthday all at the same time! ____________________________________________________________________________ Wayne D. Correia wayne@club.net 900 Tennessee Street TEL: +1.415.826.6000 www.club.net San Francisco CA 94107-3014 FAX: +1.415.826.6100 www.domain.net From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 00:30:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA08387; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:30:07 -0700 Received: from netcom12.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA08379; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:30:05 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom12.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id AAA16502; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:29:28 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606120729.AAA16502@netcom12.netcom.com> Subject: Re: first music experience To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 00:29:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 3220 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From my 41-years-old perspective, here's my addition to the "first musical experience" thread ... kinda long ... No one song , but some scenarios come to mind - in consecutive order starting from my childhood in Hawaii: 1. My mom had a music box - I don't know what the melody was , but it was pretty. I used to listen to it right up to my ear, so I could hear not just the tinkling melody , but also the grinding, whirling and pings of the mechanism. Sort of a proto-industrial/techno experience. 2. Sometimes at the beach, I would float face downwards with my ears underwater. Without the distraction of the sun in my face, I could hear more acutely the strange sounds of the ocean . ( I never did this too long , as I was afraid my mom would think I was drowning! ). My first experience with "ambient". 3. My dad didn't like rock-n-roll garbage, and he wasn't too keen on jazz either, but he loved singers like Nat King Cole, Billie Eckstine, Jerry Vale, and Perry Como. Instrumental stuff ran along lines like the Herp Alpert and the Tijuana Brass or guitar music. He also had some Hawaiian music. We had a big refrigerator sized stereo console that I learned how to use. I would bring my pillow and blanket into the living room and load up a stack of records and go to sleep on the couch. 4. In the mid-60's, we lived next to a family with three teenage boys, all of whom were into hot rods. Their carport was next to my bedroom . During the evenings, as I was drifting off to sleep, they would be tinkering with a new carburator or some damn thing, all the while with a radio tuned to a rock-n-roll station. So, I went to sleep to the music of bands like the Beatles, the Dave Clark Five, the Rolling Stones, the Animals, and the Beach Boys. 5. High School: First albums - Rolling Stones "Sticky Fingers", Grateful Dead "American Beauty" , King Crimson "Court Of The Crimson King".(Still got 'em.) I am a Deadhead for a few years, but get annoyed with them for actually wasting vinyl to record a narcopletic tune called "Row Jimmy Row". 6. College : MC5, Iggy and the Stooges, Velvet Underground, The Who, Ramones, New York Dolls, Patti Smith, and European space rock. I walk by someone's dorm room and hear some spacey thick sounds oozing out. He was playing the Hawkwind album "Doremi Fasol Latido". I borrowed it from him - side 1 blew my head clean off. Still does. 7. 1980s : Two Tone ska, Brian Eno, Talking Heads. I have gotten over my snit with the Grateful Dead and am listening to them again. A guitar player in a punk band who worked at a record store suggested that I try out something new - a band named Throbbing Gristle. It may be strange to use the phrase "like a breath of fresh air" in reference to this grandfather of industrial bands, but that's what it was like! Breaking past the spell of guitars/drums/synths into strange bold realms of purposeful noise and sampled sounds. 8. 1992 - First rave and first massive - Toon Town's "UFOs Are Real". Some first techno - FSOL "Papau New Guinea", Studio X "Los Kings Del Mambo". That's enough for now ! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 04:03:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA02279; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 04:03:26 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA02274; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 04:03:23 -0700 Received: from [206.81.226.209] (net-7-209.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.209]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id GAA24182 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 06:03:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 06:08:55 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: polo@eden.com (-* POLO *-) Subject: Basics =( Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hiya SF! Well, while I had a great visit to the Bay Area this past weekend, I didn't make it to Basics. =( =( =( I got to F-8 just as they were selling the last tickets (around 12:45am). They (F-8) suggested we hang out (elsewhere) until 2am and see if more tickets showed up but they never did. I went down to the site, but of course couldn't get in as the place was at or over capacity. Well, this teaches me a lesson: When attempting to rave in SF, get tix as soon as they start selling them! My mistake... A question was posed: >> I have one question: what was the dj lineup between Astral Matrix and Doc >> Martin? There was one guy who played some really nice breakbeat... And -=]madame mercury[=- suggested: > I think it might have been DAN. I saw on the list that some guy >called the person who does all Dan's bookings and she told him that Dan >was booked for Basics on Sat. so maybe that is who you heard doing those >phat BBs. Then John corrected: >No, it was Chris Brown from Rampant, aka Brownie from LA. I talked to DJ >Dan there, but I know he didn't spin. He just told Paul (his booking >agent) that he was playing there so he could hang out and not have to >spin that night :) This is true. It was I who posted that Dan would be spinning at Basics (information relayed to me from the booking agent's receptionist) but then Dan's booking agent called me back to my answering machine in Texas to let me know that Dan was taking the weekend off and would _not_ be spinning at Basics. Sorry I missed y'all, but I'll be back soon. =) Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 08:36:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA23600; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:36:29 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA23563; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:36:21 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id IAA26002; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:34:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606121534.IAA26002@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: See ya CDA! To: cc@cyborganic.net Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com, socal-raves@ucsd.edu, abducted@schwa.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk The Communication Decency Act was ruled Unconstitutional today and an injunction against its enforcement was issued. Chalk one up for the First Amendment!!!! Please don't "group reply" to this post, as it is massively cross-posted... -troy Wednesday June 12 9:11 AM EDT US Court Strikes Down Internet Indecency Law PHILADELPHIA (Reuter) - A U.S. court ruled Wednesday that a law prohibiting the distribution of indecent material accessible to children over the Internet and other online networks was unconstitutional. ``As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed, the Internet deserves the highest protection from government intrusion,'' the three-judge panel said in imposing a preliminary injunction against enforcement of the statute. The case involves the Communications Decency Act signed into law by President Bill Clinton on Feb. 8. The law punishes the distribution to minors of obscene or indecent material over the Internet or commerical online services with fines and up to two years in prison. The American Civil Liberties Union filed the suit against the Justice Department the same day the measure became law. The suit was combined with a separate action undertaken by major online services and software giant Microsoft Corp. Opponents say the bill is unconstitutional, unenforceable and would drastically curtail what they said is the highly democratic nature of speech in ``cyberspace.'' But the U.S. government said the law was essential to shield children who have easy access to a growing amount of pornography online. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 08:45:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA24350; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:45:48 -0700 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA24345; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:45:46 -0700 Received: (from ccat@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id IAA00318; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:45:44 -0700 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Message-Id: <199606121545.IAA00318@netcom14.netcom.com> Subject: Non Rave Alert: *CDA overturned!* To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 08:45:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 6478 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Warning: NON RAVE RELATED!!! Victory for round one! On to the Supreme Court.... ____cut here_____ [1] ALERT: WE WIN! COURT RULES 3-0 IN FAVOR OF FREE SPEECH! READ THE + DECISION! Date: Wed Jun 12 07:08:13 PDT 1996 Organization: Voters Telecommunications Watch (email vtw@vtw.org) Lines: 132 Distribution: world ============================================================================ __ _________ __ \ \ / /_ _\ \ / / FREE SPEECH WINS IN COURT! \ \ / / | | \ \ /\ / / THE COURT DISSES THE CDA 3-0 \ V / | | \ V V / \_/ |_| \_/\_/ NETIZENS CELEBRATE WITH FIREWORKS Redistribute this intact until June 15, 1996 URL:http://www.vtw.org/speech/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Table of Contents News How can I help spread the word? Rally information for NYC and Pittsburgh Press information ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEWS WE WIN! After 18 months of work, netizens finally got the justice they so richly deserve. The three-judge panel in Philadelphia issued a ruling today saying that they had examined the Communications Decency Act, learned about the Internet as a medium, and concluded that the law is an inappropriate method of regulating cyberspace. This decision establishes an overwhelmingly positive precedent for the final decision by the Supreme Court, expected early next year. The famed "Question Mark" icon that had started popping up all over the WWW changed simultaneously at 9:09am from a question mark to fireworks, as thousands of Netizens began the mad rush to obtain a copy of the court decision celebrating their victory. You can read a copy of the decision or obtain a copy of the icon yourself at http://www.vtw.org/speech/ Senator Feingold (D-WI) said today, "This is welcome news for all of us who not only support free speech, but who also want to see this new dynamic communications technology develop safe from the threat of censorship." Feingold continued, "This issue is larger than so-called 'adult' expression or communications. It is about whether the government will decide what we see, hear, and write." Join millions of other netizens as they read the decision, rally, celebrate, and thank the court for taking the time to do what some members in Congress and the President would not do: apply the First Amendment. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOW CAN I HELP SPREAD THE WORD It's crucial that people turn out for the rallies, as well as spread the word about the decision. You can help in a number of ways outlined below. 1. ATTEND THE NYC/PITTSBURGH RALLIES If you are anywhere close to the locations of the Pittsburgh or New York City rallies, please attend and brings lots of friends! If you are an Internet provider in New York, please place the following message in your message of the day: THE COURT ISSUED A RULING TODAY IN THE INTERNET FREE SPEECH CASE ON THE COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT. A RALLY IS BEING HELD IN NYC AT OUTERNET (BWAY.NET) @ 626 BROADWAY AT 6:30PM. FOR MORE INFORMATION SEE http://www.vtw.org/speech/ OR CALL OUTERNET AT 212-982-9800. If you are an Internet provider in the Pittsburgh area, please place the following message in your message of the day: THE COURT ISSUED A RULING TODAY IN THE INTERNET FREE SPEECH CASE ON THE COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT. A RALLY IS BEING HELD ON THE STEPS OF THE OAKLAND BRANCH OF THE CARNEGIE LIBRARY AT 4PM. FOR MORE INFORMATION SEE http://www.envirolink.org/ OR CALL 412-683-6400. 2. LINK TO THE TEXT OF THE COURT'S DECISION The text of the decision will be posted at http://www.vtw.org/speech#decision Link to it from your page and help spread the word about th case that will decide so much of the future of free speech online. THE COURT ISSUED A RULING TODAY IN THE INTERNET FREE SPEECH CASE ON THE COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT. WHILE NETIZENS RALLY IN NEW YORK AND PITTSBURGH, YOU CAN READ THE DECISION ONLINE AT http://www.vtw.org/speech/index.html#decision ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- RALLY INFORMATION FOR NYC AND PITTSBURGH NEW YORK RALLY WHERE: Outernet, Inc. (bway.net) @ 626 Broadway, Suite 3-A (third floor) (Very close to the Broadway/Lafayette stop on the F train) WHO: You and your friends! Show up, bring friends, and come find out how net free speech fared in court. Here is the current speaker list (subject to time, travel, and availability) U.S. Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) Barry Steinhardt, American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) Danny Weitzner, Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT) David Sobel, Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) Molly Ker, Echo Communications (echonyc.com) Jonathan D. Wallace, author, "Sex, Laws, and Cyberspace" Alexis Rosen, Public Access Networks (panix.com) Ian Stevelman, Outernet (bway.net) WHEN: 6:30pm, Wed June 12th, 1996. Bring yourself, lots of friends, and whistles, drums, anything to make a lot of noise with. MORE INFO:Check http://www.vtw.org/speech or http://www.bway.net/ Press inquiries should go to Shabbir @ 917 978 8430. Outernet's phone number is 212-982-9800. PITTSBURGH RALLY WHERE: Steps of the Oakland branch of the Carnegie Library WHO: You and your friends! Show up, bring friends, and come find out how net free speech fared in court. WHEN: 4pm, Wed June 12th, 1996. Bring yourself, lots of friends, and whistles, drums, anything to make a lot of noise with. MORE INFO:Check http://www.envirolink.org/. Press inquiries should go to 412-683-6400. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- PRESS INFORMATION Press inquiries about the New York rally should be directed to Shabbir J. Safdar (VTW) at 718-596-2851. To find out about outlets and electricity for the rally, or to setup cameras ahead of time, contact Ian @ Outernet at 212-982-9800. ============================================================================ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 09:11:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA27162; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:11:38 -0700 Received: from mail.ico.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA27150; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:11:32 -0700 Received: from starbase.starfishsoftware.com by mail.ico.net with SMTP (5.65/950621.1) id AA15815; Wed, 12 Jun 96 09:11:22 -0700 Message-Id: <9606121611.AA15815@mail.ico.net> Priority: urgent Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:09:00 -0700 From: Roy Feague Subject: RE: See ya CDA! To: sfraves X-Mailer: Worldtalk (NetConnex V4.00a)/MIME Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Now THAT'S the BEST news I've heard in a LONG time!!! God how I love it when this country does something right. Now if we could gag those guys at Hard Copy... or am being inconsistent? ;) -Roy >> Troy Sheets writes: >> The Communication Decency Act was ruled Unconstitutional today and an >> injunction against its enforcement was issued. >> etc. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 09:15:41 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA27429; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:15:41 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA27417; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:15:38 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id JAA15617; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606121615.JAA15617@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Rick Riffle Subject: May I vent for a moment Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well I was treated to a wonderful supprise when I arrived at work today. Last night some joker stole my cd/cassette player from my office. It even had a computer lock-down device on it. My music is the one shred of sanity I have at work right now, this being our craziest time of the year. I'm pretty much over the loss of the radio as material reality, but now I have no sound.....and that's going to take a little longer. :( Rick From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 09:40:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA29704; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:40:16 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA29697; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:40:13 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA01219; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:38:39 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id JAA09534; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 09:34:09 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: tsheets@xanadu.cyborganic.net Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: See ya CDA! Date: 12 Jun 1996 17:28:37 GMT Message-Id: <1376255.3812622@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Troy Sheets,tsheets@xanadu.cyborganic.net,Internet writes: The American Civil Liberties Union filed the suit against the Justice Department the same day the measure became law. The suit was combined with a separate action undertaken by major online services and software giant Microsoft Corp. WOW! I guess that image I transferred with Mr Gates and thoses sheep I posted on AOL got around!!! "dance with me " Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 10:03:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA02089; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:03:56 -0700 Received: from cmac20.Colorado.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA01967; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:03:10 -0700 Received: from [198.59.61.5] by cmac20.Colorado.EDU with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:06:42 -0600 Subject: Visiting for the weekend -- what to do? Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 11:06:39 -0600 From: Andy Hawks To: "Sanfrandisco Raves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1377544894-314769@cmac20.Colorado.EDU> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey Sanfrandisco heads -- I'm from Colorado and visiting the Bay Area for the weekend, my first time out to SF. =) What party would you recommend this weekend? I was thinking of Second Chakra, to see Jeno, Carlos, and Donald Glaude...I'd like to hit a party that's full of SF House and that special vibe -- something representative of SF parties....I've seen all those guys in the last two months here in Colorado, but was thinking it'd be cool to check 'em all at once...What are Nexus parties like? What about clubs? I'd love to just check out the Sound Factory, but I'd like to see Westbam and Jeno at Nikita, which I don't know anything about...How is getting into Sound Factory? is it all guest list? is there a dress code? sam with Nikita....how is it? what type of crowd/atmosphere? o Stores -- who has the biggest selection of dj tapes? any other suggestions for must-visit places/clubs/parties? I've got job interviews on Thursday and Friday and Saturday afternoons and have to leave Sunday morning, so, I don't have a *lot* of freetime, so I want to sandwhich everything in.....mmmm, tasty sandwich...=) Thanks for any guidance...=) peace and lur.... __ __ ___/ ) andy@andy.colorado.edu ( \___ (___) (_____ peace<->love<->unity<->respect _____) (___) (___)> _____ believe in the power of love _____ <(___) (___)_/ \_(___) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 10:12:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA02924; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:12:40 -0700 Received: from dons.ac.usfca.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA02906; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:12:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199606121712.KAA02906@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: Basics *--=> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:07:35 -0700 (PDT) From: parvsa00 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2190 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Austin wrote: > Met a few sfravers -hi yall- and my dear Sarvi, This whole time you been > readin my mail(maybe you haven't) and I've been talkin to you at parties > and you didn't know I was on this list. Well hello agian... oh my gosh! *blushes* i seriously had no idea that you were the austin that posts on here. it was a very pleasant surprise honey. man, i've read all your posts and know that sig very well....go figure! anyhow, it was great seein you again qt. hopefully i'll run into again at the next party. =) i do want to say hello to all the other sfravers i saw out...(adam, ian, michal....and all the rest). as for the party itself (i know my post is comin a bit late...i lag!), i had a great time. it was such a great vibe party. i do wish, however, that it was not so hot in there. but alas the music made up for that. doran was amazing as always. always nice to see him back here. came away thinkin' I wanted some hardcore too. Is there another MADDNESS > planned soon or a good hardcore party goin on soon? I would deffinately go > to LA and I know of a few good ones comin up tooo. i hear that! hey austin..keep in posted honey. =) the last party i hit up in la was funky shit happens. a car full of us sfravers headed out to that one...and had a great time! i'll be travelling this weekend..so lemme know how the parties go. hope everyone has a great time out. -sarvi ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ RIGHT FRONT SPEAKER FAMILY #######\ * \|/ * _ woo! * \|/ * /####### # (o) # | -O- * _( )__ -O- * | # (o) # # (o) # | * /|\ * /. / * /|\ | # (o) # ####### | * ___m/|__m/___ * *| ####### #' _ '# | OOOOOO -OOOOOOO--OOOOo-OOOOOOO | #' _ '# # / \ # | OO OO| OO O OOO | OO O | # / \ # thub # \_/ # | OOOOO | OOOO OOOO | OOOO | # \_/ # thub #. .# |--OO-OO-|_OO________OOO|-OO-----| #. .# thub #######/ OOO OO OOOO OOOOO OOOO \####### ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ parvsa00@dons.usfca.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 10:18:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA03416; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:18:08 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03403; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:18:04 -0700 Received: from [206.168.54.190] ([206.168.54.190]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id KAA07498 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606121717.KAA07498@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: cubensis@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:19:56 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: cubensis@well.com (John Bagby) Subject: WHY NOT? YEAH! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This is a follow up to Fraser "Hypeman" Clark's original announcement re: the mass-attempt to contact Dr. Tim Leary. Read at your own risk. ;-) If anyone is going to Barlow's SF gig tonight for Dr. Tim, I'll be wearing purple T-shirt with a black vest and khaki pants. See ya there! peace john >Date: Tue, 11 Jun 1996 02:05:14 +0100 >From: Fraser Clark >Subject: WHY NOT? YEAH! > >PRESS RELEASE > >SATURDAY JUNE 22nd, 12AM TO 6AM. Parliament Hill, Hampstead Heath, >>London.And Cyberspace. >The WHY NOT? YEAH! Memorial Picnic & Pseancexperiment >[The last recorded words of Dr Timothy Leary, who died on May 31st, 1996, >were "Why not? Yeah!"] > >Hundreds of members of the conterculture with their wives, mates, children >and pets are expected to gather at this Parallel YOUniversity organised >event to >A) celebrate/grieve and share their memories together of Timothy Leary >B) help Tim to navigate the realms beyond death >C) with thousands more via the internet to participate in the greatest >psychic experiment ever to communicate beyond death! > >A) CELEBRATION. The afternoon will include debates on the prophet's life >and work hosted by Good Jeff of Parallel YOUniversity, plus talks by Brian >Barritt & Fraser Clark, "Britain's Tim Leary", an address by Mark Heley on >"The Intelligent Use of Drugs," and an appeal to canonise Tim as Saint >Timothy. There will also be acoustic music, including bagpipe playing >(which, to some, sounds like the wailing of dead souls) > >B) NAVIGATING DEATH. Tim's soul will be helped in its astral tripping by >Tibetan chanting traditionally designed to help steer the soul through the >realms beyond death, mantra meditations by Buddhafield (led by Lokhababandu >of The Western Buddhist Order), and readings from Tim's first book The >Psychedelic Experience, a "trippers version" of The Tibetan Book of the Dea= d. >Attendees are being invited to bring their own favourite Leary reading and >to wear something psychedelic. Three white kites will be flown from this >favourite kite-flying hilltop, "the highest natural view of London", bearin= g >the letters "L", "S" and "D". > >C) The PSEANCEXPERIMENT is designed as a mass psychic attempt to allow Tim >to make contact from beyond death by revealing to participants the followin= g >week's UK's National Lottery numbers, the winnings of approximately =A33 >million to be used to complete the work of digitalising his brain and makin= g >it available on the internet, and to set up a WHY NOT FOUNDATION which will >grant pensions to "living planetary citizens" to continue their work/play e= tc. >If successful, Tim will "reveal" the six numbers between the hours of 12 >noon and 12 midnight, all of which will then be run through a statistical >program to reveal the hopefully winning number(s). Everyone everywhere, an= d >especially on the internet, has been invited to participate. "Revealed >answers" should be e-mailed or phoned in to the numbers below before >midnight on the 22nd. Participants should only include numbers they have a >feeling of inner certainty about, and may send less, but not more than 6 >numbers. >Various psychics, in the UK and abroad, are also participating and their >answers will be specially weighted. >Of course, since we know as little about the after-life as we did about >other psychedelic experiences before Tim's work/play, it may be that Tim >cannot predict the future. In which case the guaranteed most truly random >lottery on earth should be the easiest to influence psychically on the day. >Countercultural particpants are very aware indeed that, should the >experiment succeed, they could go on to win every week and so become the >most powerful force for good in human history. Cooperation indeed! >Fraser Clark, founder of Megatripolis and "Head Master" of Parallel >YOUniversity, has said of the event's chances of success: "I wouldn't bet >on it. But we have to give it a try since such an experimental window of >opportunity is unlikely to repeat in our present lifetimes.". > >Further Info and Answers to: +44-(0)171-813-9685 & 625-7165 and >fraser@idiot.demon.co.uk > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Fraser Clark [Encyclopaedia Psychedelica International, evolution^, >Parallel YOUniversity, Megatripolis, Zippy hq, World Peace Builders] > >Tel :- +44-(0)171 625 7165 (infoline) >E-mail :- fraserclark@mail.easynet.co.uk >WWW :- http://www.algroup.co.uk/wpb/fraser >-------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 10:22:27 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA03798; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:22:27 -0700 Received: from interramp.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA03792; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:22:23 -0700 Received: from 38.10.222.251 by interramp.com (8.6.12/SMI-4.1.3-PSI-pop-local) id NAA14605; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:22:18 -0400 Message-ID: <31BEC4CE.30EA@interramp.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:23:26 -0300 From: Gregor Hoffman X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: searching for housing in SF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hola people! I'm a recent arrival to the Bay Area and I'm searching for cool and creative roommates who also happen to dig house & techno music (or is that techno house?). I'd rather live with people who share the same aesthetic and aural sensibilities as myself. It seems that I've relocated at a time when occupancy rates in the city are high so if there are any persons out there who happen to know of a room to rent or are currently seeking a housemate, I'd appreciate any information. About myself: I'm 28 and have a BA degree (Barely Adequate) in Eng. Lit. I enjoy the arts and thoroughly love dance music more than mere words could express. I'm pretty mimimal right now: clothing, computer, car, turntable and records are all I schelepped out here from the East Coast, so I just need a decent sized room somewhere.. I brought one SL1200, so a household with another would be optimal. Otherwise Mr. Visa and I will procur another! I'm looking for housemates who like to rage and have fun, but who also are also intelligent, considerate and fairly responsible. I'm searching for work right now, but I came out here w/ enough funds to get started so I am able to pay rent immediately if that's a concern. You can either email me back or call me at (408) 243-9140. Anyway, I've been having a swell time dancing away and checking out the scene...mad props to those behind Tribal Future, Devine Rhythm Society, and Down to Earth for some rambunctious fun and solid grooves!!!!! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 10:43:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA05734; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:43:18 -0700 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA05725; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:43:15 -0700 Received: by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id KAA03946; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:42:43 -0700 Received: from zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM by Ebay.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA20335; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:42:41 -0700 Received: by zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA10598; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:44:07 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 10:44:07 -0700 From: Nicole.Glover@Ebay.Sun.COM (Nikki Glover) Message-Id: <9606121744.AA10598@zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Room for Rent X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello out there... If anyone has or knows of a room that I can rent please let me know. I have a steady job and I am looking in the San Jose area or anything around that. I am 23 and I am looking for someone that is responsible but yet likes to party and have a good time. I'm into House and Techno and other stuff. If you know of anything please let me know.I need something kinda soon. I have been out of the scene for awhile and I want to get back in, please help. Thanx nikki You can email at: nicole.glover@ebay.sun.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 11:54:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA13227; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:54:10 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA13220; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:54:05 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id LAA29163 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:53:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606121853.LAA29163@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: Poison Oak Info?? To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 11:53:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello, someone posted awhile back about a soap that washes the Poison Oak Oil off you skin. Well, we are Still breaking out from Tribal Future!!! What was that soap called??!! -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 12:14:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA15148; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:34 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA15139; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:31 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA20766; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: SDream cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... In-Reply-To: <199606111850.LAA23957@shellx.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Is this Basco which I think is done by dj Dan? (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Basco is an awesome track. I fell in love with it the first time I heard it because of the guitar samples. The second time I heard it was at Harmony's BP. If someone knows where to find this track, let me know, I'd be most grateful!! -kaySEE On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where > to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes > me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound > like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, > two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! > It makes me freak! > > If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have > it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > > S > > ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 12:26:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA16411; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:26:50 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA16404; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:26:46 -0700 Received: from [157.22.222.111] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:26:42 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:26:43 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Wayne Correia Subject: CDA Victory Party - today, Wednesday 5pm in SF Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk CDA VICTORY PARTY! CELEBRATE THE VICTORY OVER INTERNET CENSORSHIP! SAMBA OVER TO SOUTH PARK (between 2nd & 3rd Bryant & Brannan) - 5PM LIVE MUSIC * FREE BEER * NAUGHTY WORDS From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 12:37:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA17595; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:37:03 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA17583; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:36:59 -0700 From: Clarityi@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA05180 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:36:29 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:36:29 -0400 Message-ID: <960612153629_133525690@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: (bsp)Gateway Solstice Celebration! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Friday June 21st Gateway Systems happily gives you Light - a Summer Solstice celebration. This event will be within the sf bay area, 2pm-9pm. The line-up includes Galen, Jon Williams, John Carel, Monty, and Andre Lucero. There will be an opening Ambient Meditation with Consciousness Lab. There will be volleyball, and games. Please bring any creative exchange, food, flowers, drums, digeridoos, smiles and friends. For more info please call 415.536.9453. Feel It - Love! -Gateway Systems From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 12:59:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA19762; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:59:33 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA19752; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:59:29 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA22225 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:57:46 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id MAA24236 for Sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:54:02 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: Sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: NRR(well sort of): I seek only... Date: 12 Jun 1996 20:36:22 GMT Message-Id: <2965163965.4498243@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ...Some turntables for purchase. I have a good friend who wishes to start up a DJ carrier and she seeks some good, used 1200's @ a price range at about $250-350 ea. If you are, or have anyone that's looking to sell please drop me a line.... Hey, we could always use some more techno female DJ's, eh? Thanks! "dance with me..." Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 13:03:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA20159; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:03:07 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA20124; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:03:00 -0700 Received: from [157.22.222.111] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:02:49 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:02:49 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: on behalf of MONOLITH Subject: (bsp) MONOLITH Saturday June 15th Cc: dhchung@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk MONOLITH Saturday June 15th The lineup is (in order): Solar Mystr-E MARS Henrik Andre Lucero Brought to you by: Next School the creators of Progress MARS of Frequency-8 voice mail info lines # 415-974-4391 & 415-541-5019 limited tix are available at Frequency-8 on Haight for $10- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 13:09:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA20854; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:09:55 -0700 Received: from cmac20.Colorado.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA20846; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:09:51 -0700 Received: from [198.59.61.5] by cmac20.Colorado.EDU with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:13:20 -0600 Subject: SFRaves is the bomb. =). Thanks for the help! Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 14:13:17 -0600 From: Andy Hawks To: "Sanfrandisco Raves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1377533696-988094@cmac20.Colorado.EDU> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Once again I'm taken aback by the flood of responses I get when I email you guys! Thanks for all the replies about what to do this weekend in the bay.... I'm gonna try and hit Second Chakra, I think..... So anyway, if anyone wants to meet a mtn-raver from Boulder and Denver, look for me... I look like everyone else, but, I'm white, 5'10" or so, short dyed blonde hair with brown sideburns and a brown goatee, i have a septum ring, tongue ring i play with too much, three ear piercings....i'll probably be wearing a white t-shirt, my silver ball chain necklace, jeans, and white tennis shoes, maybe a brown "old guy" hat (i forget what you call 'em =), and sometimes I wear glasses (if it's not too dark =)....i'll try and remember to wear my mtn-raves badge, too, if i can find it -- check out what they look like at http://www.hyperreal.com/raves/mtn/....(man, i've never committed myself to a specific outfit 3 days in advance....eek!) I look forward to meeting a bunch of sf-ravers, and i'd really like to meet people involved with hyperreal, people i know from my old FutureCulture email list, or the Leri list, all the net.rave old skool (heheheh), anyone at URB (I've been writing the Denver scene reports, lately)..... hope everyone's having a good day... take care... __ __ ___/ ) andy@andy.colorado.edu ( \___ (___) (_____ peace<->love<->unity<->respect _____) (___) (___)> _____ believe in the power of love _____ <(___) (___)_/ \_(___) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 13:14:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA21287; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:14:31 -0700 Received: from mail.wesleyan.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA21271; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:14:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (kzimmerman@localhost) by mail.wesleyan.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA17346 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:14:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:14:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mr. SparklE" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: looking for sublet Message-ID: http: //www.con.wesleyan.edu/~kzimmerman/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hi all.. my name is Mr. SparklE (some of you may know my bro Doug who lives out in SF) and i am coming out to SanFran fro July and August. point being, i am looking for a sublet or whatever for those months. so if you need a summertime roommate, or know of a place to sublet, or can just plain guive me advice (ALLL advice appreciated) then please send send send it to me. i should be heading out in the middle of next week sometime... tia + peace&loveism, Mr. SparklE :: Da Hearticle Ganja Herb Smokin' Mon Poseur :: kzimmerman@wesleyan.edu :: http://www.con.wesleyan.edu/~kzimmerman/ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 13:45:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA25510; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:45:10 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA25499; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:45:05 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id NAA01254; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:44:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606122044.NAA01254@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... To: scarab@value.net (KaySEE) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 13:44:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: SDream@tgrigsby.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: from "KaySEE" at Jun 12, 96 12:14:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Sounds like that old DJ Dan/Ron D. Core popularized track: Wow wow wigidy wigidy wow wow wigidy wididy wow wow wigidy wigidy Put it in! put it in! put it in! put it in! dil da dil da dil dil dil dildo dil da dil da dil dil dil dildo dil da dil da dil dil dil dildo Put it in! put it in! put it in! put it in! (repeat) The name of the track? "Dildo", of course! A clasic. (beleive it or not!) -troy > > > Is this Basco which I think is done by dj Dan? (Please correct me if I'm > wrong.) Basco is an awesome track. I fell in love with it the first time > I heard it because of the guitar samples. The second time I heard it was > at Harmony's BP. If someone knows where to find this track, let me know, > I'd be most grateful!! > > -kaySEE > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > > > Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where > > to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes > > me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound > > like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, > > two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! > > It makes me freak! > > > > If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have > > it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > > > > S > > > > > > ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 14:25:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA29739; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:25:55 -0700 Received: from odin.community.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA29724; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:25:49 -0700 Received: from n118.solano.community.net (n118.solano.community.net [140.174.119.118]) by odin.community.net with SMTP id OAA09897; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:25:30 -0700 Received: by n118.solano.community.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BB586A.CE2F3AC0@n118.solano.community.net>; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:24:03 -0700 Message-ID: <01BB586A.CE2F3AC0@n118.solano.community.net> From: b e n c h u n To: "'sfraves@hyperreal.com'" , "'Troy Sheets'" Subject: Re: Poison Oak Info?? Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:23:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Hello, someone posted awhile back about a soap that washes the Poison >Oak >Oil off you skin. Well, we are Still breaking out from Tribal Future!!! >What was that soap called??!! the name of it was Tecnu, according to tony@xinet.com. b e n c h u n ben_chun@community.net http://community.net/~ben_chun/ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 14:39:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA01056; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:39:39 -0700 Received: from sco.sco.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA01051; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:39:36 -0700 Received: from grandad.pdev.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa03780; 12 Jun 96 14:37 PDT Received: from tehama.pdev.sco.com by grandpa.pdev.sco.com id ab11305; 12 Jun 96 14:37 PDT Received: from andrewk.pdev.sco.COM by tehama.sco.com id aa09656; 12 Jun 96 14:32 PDT From: Andrew Knutsen To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: video for Leary Memorial tonight X-Mailer: ScoMail 3.0.Bd MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:32:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9606121432.aa02957@andrewk.pdev.sco.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk It looks like the video portion of the memorial the the Unitarian tonight could use more footage of Tim's antics. If you have any VHS or SVHS tapes, or other formats with your own player, it would be appreciated if you'd bring them along. Just go to the video booth and ask for Craig Larson. Andrew ----------------------------------------- Andrew Knutsen andrewk@sco.com Santa Cruz Operation (408) 427-7538 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 14:55:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA02596; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:55:26 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA02587; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:55:22 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA13249 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:55:26 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA02534 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:50:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:50:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathryn Ankrum To: b e n c h u n Cc: "'sfraves@hyperreal.com'" , "'Troy Sheets'" Subject: Re: Poison Oak Info?? In-Reply-To: <01BB586A.CE2F3AC0@n118.solano.community.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, b e n c h u n wrote: > >Hello, someone posted awhile back about a soap that washes the Poison > >Oak > >Oil off you skin. Well, we are Still breaking out from Tribal Future!!! > >What was that soap called??!! > > the name of it was Tecnu, according to tony@xinet.com. In an emergency, you can also try lemon juice--just squeeze a lemon (or lemons) over the affected area, then leave it be. It worked for me. Kathryn From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 15:06:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA03584; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:06:18 -0700 Received: from greece.it.earthlink.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA03577; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:06:14 -0700 Received: from [153.37.82.125] (pool061.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.125]) by greece.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10821; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:05:56 +0200 To: jess , sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: Re: Hardcore <> LA fieldtrip :) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yeahhhhh, I'm down for some hardcore. My weekend in LA was fantastic and I've been dieing to go back.... Suggestions... This saturday (yeah its a little close to plan something here but..) in the deserts of LA (ooohhh noooo not another orgy of kids having fun!!!!)-- I been told this is gonna be a really good hardcore LA party.. Oasia (Desert) - A Desert Party. DJs Marusha (Germany), Goa Gil (SF), Christopher Lawrence, DJ Lee, Daniel, Thomas Michael, DJ Trance, Sparky. What about a road trip to Organic '96 (San Bernardino Mountains) They have 4 sound systems. One of them is stricktly dedicated to hardcore. Check the Socal-raves calendar for details.. Also the 3yr anniversery of Love (one of the parties I went to in LA on my weekend trip- Comparable to The Gathering parties) is July 13. 3 rooms, 213.917.3215, 714.218.5662 And.. Hardcore Kids Productions (HKP) is doing a party on July 20th which I am already planning to drive down for this one and to see some friends in Newport. Christopher Lawerence, Thomas Micheal, Brad, Obscure (anyone hear him at Strawberry sundays last Sunday), Fester, Xavier, and Mojo (the mixed tape is sic!!!) 213.920.7902 I would be happy to provide transport for some (providing I can get out of work the weekend of the trip). Let's get something going.... Get back to all yall later...gotta work. . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 15:19:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA04846; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:19:40 -0700 Received: from sco.sco.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA04841; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:19:37 -0700 Received: from grandad.pdev.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa07398; 12 Jun 96 15:16 PDT Received: from tehama.pdev.sco.com by grandpa.pdev.sco.com id aa12112; 12 Jun 96 15:17 PDT Received: from andrewk.pdev.sco.COM by tehama.sco.com id aa09808; 12 Jun 96 15:12 PDT From: Andrew Knutsen To: tsheets@xanadu.cyborganic.net Subject: Poison Oak Info?? Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: ScoMail 3.0.Bd MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:08:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9606121508.aa03129@andrewk.pdev.sco.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > Hello, someone posted awhile back about a soap that washes the Poison Oak > Oil off you skin. Well, we are Still breaking out from Tribal Future!!! > What was that soap called??!! If you're still getting new rashes its possible you're getting it off clothes or other items which have oil on them. They should be washed with soap. PO oil stays active for many months (except on skin, where its absorbed within a day -- the rashes are usually not infectious). "Leaflets three, let it be". Andrew ----------------------------------------- Andrew Knutsen andrewk@sco.com Santa Cruz Operation (408) 427-7538 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 15:22:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA05088; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:22:16 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA05080; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:22:12 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA41780 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:22:46 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA02129 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:21:03 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 12 Jun 1996 14:46:52 -0700 From: "Scott Nozawa" Subject: Dance Del*Sol To: "Space Dancers" X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 b2 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Subject: Time: 15:06 OFFICE MEMO Dance Del*Sol Date: 6/12/96 Hey gang, For all you Southbay folks, there is going to be a FREE party in Hellyer Park in San Jose. Sunday, June 16th is the date and it will run from Noon til Dusk. The Djs will be: Rick Preston, Harry Who?, Ryan Tapia, Tamotsu, Joseph, Mark Johns, Marc Chavez, and Sean. Come on out and enjoy the sun and some good music. Bring some happy vibes and a friend and let's get San Jose rockin'!!! Hellyer Park San Jose Yerba Buena Site 408*236 *3732 for directions It would be best to car pool because the park charges a few bucks for parking :( PeaceÉ Tamotsu From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 15:34:34 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA06518; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:34:34 -0700 Received: from dale.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA06503; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:34:25 -0700 Received: by dale.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id PAA06118; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:34:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:33:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Pfister X-Sender: ez045207@dale.ucdavis.edu To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: chain mixtapes (humor me) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Sitting around with the rest of the Davis based djs having our last mixing session (some of us are graduating), we came up with an idea for a way for all of us to still get together and spin records, even though we will end up scattered across the state. The idea (d)evolved into the: GREAT CHAIN MIXTAPE SCHEME 1. Record your favorite song onto a high quality 90 min cassette. 2. Write the song title, your name and address of the J-card. 3. Send the tape to 5 djs you know with the instructions: "Join the mix tape chain! Play this tape into one of the inputs your mixer. Copy it onto a second tape of similar quality, mixing in one of your favorite song at the end of the recorded set. Make 5 copies, adding your name, address, and song title to the J-card. If you have filled up the mix tape, send the 5 copies to anyone on the J-card. If there is still room on the tape, send the copies(with these instructions) to 5 djs you know. In 6-8 weeks you should recieve several thousand mixtapes!" 4. Wait for the mailman. Make sure you have extra batteries for your walkman. If you are really twisted once you recieve all your tapes get as many tape decks and boomboxes as you can and start up all the tapes simultaneously. They will all start with your song and then slowly shatter into thousand of indivual layers of beatmatched techno confusion. (Yes, I know that after 25 copies the first couple of songs are going to sound pretty crummy. Just think of it as a distorted build.) I'm not seriously suggesting this but it still would be really neat if it worked. marc From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 15:34:46 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA06555; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:34:46 -0700 Received: from sco.sco.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA06548; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:34:43 -0700 Received: from grandad.pdev.sco.com by sco.sco.COM id aa08360; 12 Jun 96 15:26 PDT Received: from tehama.pdev.sco.com by grandpa.pdev.sco.com id aa12226; 12 Jun 96 15:27 PDT Received: from andrewk.pdev.sco.COM by tehama.sco.com id aa09854; 12 Jun 96 15:22 PDT From: Andrew Knutsen To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: See ya CDA! X-Mailer: ScoMail 3.0.Bd MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:18:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable Message-ID: <9606121518.aa03193@andrewk.pdev.sco.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > The Communication Decency Act was ruled Unconstitutional today and an > injunction against its enforcement was issued. We won a battle, but the fight isn't over yet... here are some details.= = Also there is a bill being introduced in Legislature to rescind the CDA i= tself. = No reason not to celebrate though... Andrew ---------- PHILADELPHIA (Reuter) - In a ground-breaking decision on free-speech righ= ts over = the Internet, a special U.S. court panel blocked as unconstitutional a ne= w = federal law prohibiting indecency on computer networks. = The three-judge panel issued Wednesday a preliminary injunction barring = enforcement of portions of the Communications Decency Act (CDA), signed b= y = President Clinton Feb. 8, which prohibit the distribution to minors of in= decent = or ``patently offensive'' materials over computer networks. = Violators would be subject to fines and prison terms of up to two years. = The court let stand prohibitions against obscenity and child pornography = -- = speech that is not constitutionally protected. Those provisions had not b= een = challenged. = [...] The ruling sets the stage either for a trial on whether the act should be= = permanently blocked, or a direct appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court under = expedited appeals provisions. = The Justice Department said it was reviewing the decision and would consi= der an = appeal. ``We believe the statute can be applied in a constitutional manne= r,'' = department spokesman Carl Sternsaid. = The department would wait for a Supreme Court decision, expected in the n= ext two = weeks, involving a 1992 law on indecency over certain cable television st= ations, = Stern said. = It may also await a federal court ruling in New York on a similar free-sp= eech = challenge to the four-month-old communications law, he said. = Copyright =A9 1996 Reuters Limited ----------------------------------------- Andrew Knutsen andrewk@sco.com Santa Cruz Operation (408) 427-7538 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 15:46:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA07727; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:46:42 -0700 Received: from mas.atext.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA07698; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:46:36 -0700 Received: from rodan (rodan.atext.com [204.62.245.26]) by mas.atext.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA07075 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:46:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by rodan (5.x/Spike-2.0) id AA02483; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:46:03 -0700 Message-Id: <31BF48AA.1175@excite.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 15:46:02 -0700 From: John Kawamoto Organization: Excite, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.4 sun4m) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Poison Oak Info?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk To all those who went to Tribal Future: You might want to make sure to wash all your clothes, shoes, and any other article of clothing that you brought with you as they can still have the dust/oil from the poison oak plants on and in them. I learned this after I accidently used a roommates towel to dry off after taking a shower and got a mild breakout of poison oak even though I DID NOT go with him to the beach where he picked it up!! >From all the excellent reviews I've heard of Tribal Future, I bet the poison oak was worth it!! I can't wait to go to my first TF and get a case of poison oak too! Peace and Love, John From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 16:05:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA10015; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:05:51 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA10005; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:05:47 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.3/8.7.1) id QAA04316; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:05:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606122305.QAA04316@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: Re: Poison Oak Info?? To: andrewk@sco.COM (Andrew Knutsen) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:05:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <9606121508.aa03129@andrewk.pdev.sco.com> from "Andrew Knutsen" at Jun 12, 96 03:08:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > > > > > > Hello, someone posted awhile back about a soap that washes the Poison Oak > > Oil off you skin. Well, we are Still breaking out from Tribal Future!!! > > What was that soap called??!! > > If you're still getting new rashes its possible you're getting it off > clothes or other items which have oil on them. They should be washed with soap. > PO oil stays active for many months (except on skin, where its absorbed within a > day -- the rashes are usually not infectious). > I think "Some other item" is my girlfriend!!! I'll take your advice above ;) -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 16:13:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA10790; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:13:32 -0700 Received: from cyberE.creative.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA10785; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:13:28 -0700 Received: from [204.71.217.68] (a2port4.creative.net [204.71.217.68]) by cyberE.creative.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA00691; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606122310.QAA00691@cyberE.creative.net> X-Sender: bigz@creative.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 16:06:58 -0800 To: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching), sfraves@hyperreal.com From: bigz@bigz.com (Jon Zimmerman) Subject: Re: New Mac Virus:"Open Me" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Someone gave this to me about a year ago on a cd of bootleg software. It came as an application. As it said "Open Me", stupidly I double clicked on it. It fucked up my entire harddrive. Stay away from this app!!!! Jon At 10:40 AM 6/10/96 -0700, Larry Ching wrote: > [ to sfraves list ] > > Hi folks - > > Well, I hope I'm not premature about this, but the Computer Help guy >at my workplace just forwarded this alert about a new Macintosh virus >to all the folks in our program. Since he's a very knowledgeable >Macintosh guru, this may be for real ... > > Larry Ching / larryc@netcom.com >=========== Attached message follows ============== > >Received the following message from Computer Security: > >"Just got word of a new virus called "Open Me." It looks to be >a Macintosh control Panel virus. It hit one of the facilities in >Denver in a big way. At this point we don't know where it came from or >how it spreads but it will destroy a hard disk. So if you bring up your >Mac and see the message Open Me don't do it." > > >Received from Dave Ferreira our local expert: > >"This is not a hoax. It appears to be a control panel type of virus >that can not be detected using SAM or Norton Anti-virus. The virus/control >panel wipes out the B-tree or B-catalog or whatever (basically wipes out >the location of every file on the hard disk)." > >Hopefully we won't see this virus here but just in case, be on the look >out........................Mark > >========== End of Attached Message ============== Jon Zimmerman (415)664-6645 bigz@bigz.com http://www.bigz.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 17:12:54 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA16502; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:12:54 -0700 Received: from arl-img-6.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA16497; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:12:52 -0700 Received: by arl-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id UAA15066; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:12:20 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:11:44 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Greetings SFraves To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606122019_MC1-4D2-D655@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Good day all, My name is ---Jason--- and I have been going to parties for almost two years now. Syntonic was my first party (thank you BIOJEFF), and it came at a crucial time in my life. And to think how much I harped on him when he sold his drums to buy a coupla 1200's. The people I encountered there, and have met since, have helped restore my faith in humankind. You are truely special in this world of indifference, apathy and bottom lines. Whether you realized it or not, in that moment, your positive energy was infectious to all around you. You have changed people with as little as a smile, or by as much as giving a ride to a tired and injured raver in the Black Rock Desert. (thanks to the lovely young woman in the Ford Explorer at the radio station that morning!) So the next time a jaded raver thinks to himself, "this" is just another party, think of those around you, "new", who might be influenced by their strange and wonderful surroundings. To them, this may seem a bastion of hope. PROOF! That there is good in the GROOVE of life. To all of you I have met in the scene: YOU are special! And to everyone I haven't had the pleasure of meeting: I hope to greet you all in person some day. You are a very unique and caring people. Take Care, Jason P.S. This concludes our test of the emergency introduction system. If this had been an actual introduction you would have been able to see what the hell I look like and give a hug. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 17:13:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA16551; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:13:17 -0700 Received: from dub-img-3.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA16535; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:13:13 -0700 Received: by dub-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id UAA24932; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:12:10 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:11:48 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: NRR: Poison Oak answer Cc: sfraves , Troy Sheets Message-ID: <199606122019_MC1-4D2-D656@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Troy and some others have expressed an interest in a product to remove the oil left behind after contact with poison oak or ivy. I can definately vouch for the soap: TECNU ....Oak & Ivy It works wonders. I'll take TF with poison oak over no TF, anyday. Thanks to all the beautiful people who made TF such a memorable and special experience! Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 17:21:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA17449; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:21:24 -0700 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA17440; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 17:21:20 -0700 From: Czefir@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA17697 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:21:07 -0400 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:21:07 -0400 Message-ID: <960612202106_555052018@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: non-rave...SFSU students question Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi all!! I'm attending SFSU this fall and I was wondering if any past or current students had sugestions as to what classes I should take, interesting teachers, classes, etc. Registration starts next week so I was just wondering. I am planning on taking only general education classes. No major have I yet decided on. In fact I will probably transfer to the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising next year, so my stay at SFSU will be short. Thank you. Live, Love, Megan Czefir From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 18:25:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA22770; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:25:26 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id SAA22763; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:25:20 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA19173 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:25:16 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA14180 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:23:53 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Daniel J. MacMillan" To: KaySEE Cc: SDream , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk If the song you guys are talking about has a sample that says 'get insane to the bass', then it is Basco (or perhaps Bosco).This was played at BP for sure ... It is somewhat of a speaker-tweaker's anthem in LA ... We hear it there all the time, and everyone loves it. Dan On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, KaySEE wrote: > > Is this Basco which I think is done by dj Dan? (Please correct me if I'm > wrong.) Basco is an awesome track. I fell in love with it the first time > I heard it because of the guitar samples. The second time I heard it was > at Harmony's BP. If someone knows where to find this track, let me know, > I'd be most grateful!! > > -kaySEE > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > > > Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where > > to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes > > me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound > > like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, > > two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! > > It makes me freak! > > > > If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have > > it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > > > > S > > > > > > ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 18:34:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA23384; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:34:29 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA23377; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:34:26 -0700 Received: from federal-excess.apple.com (federal-excess.apple.com [17.255.0.16]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id SAA24604; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:33:59 -0700 Received: from gateway.apple.com (in-out.eqm.apple.com [17.130.8.39]) by federal-excess.apple.com (SMI-8.6/8.6.12) with SMTP id SAA08895; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:33:02 -0700 Message-ID: Date: 12 Jun 1996 18:32:46 -0700 From: "Jason Green*" Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... To: "KaySEE" , "SDream" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com X-Mailer: Mail*Link SMTP-QM 4.0.0 b2 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Reply to: RE>>Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... I am not sure if Basco is the record that is described below, but it kinda sounds like it. DJ Dan did not make the Basco record, he just spins it. The artist is actually Basco, and the song is called The Music Is Over (I'm pretty sure thats the name of the song - I have it at home, but I'm at work). Any DJ vinyl store (Primal in Berkeley, Soundworks in SF, Solid Grooves in San Jose will know EXACTLY which record you are talking about - it has been out for a while now, and it has become really popular (rather overplayed, actually). But anyhow, happy searching/listening! -Jason -------------------------------------- Date: 6/12/96 12:36 PM To: Jason Green* From: KaySEE Is this Basco which I think is done by dj Dan? (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) Basco is an awesome track. I fell in love with it the first time I heard it because of the guitar samples. The second time I heard it was at Harmony's BP. If someone knows where to find this track, let me know, I'd be most grateful!! -kaySEE On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where > to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes > me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound > like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, > two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! > It makes me freak! > > If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have > it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > > S > > ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam**** ------------------ RFC822 Header Follows ------------------ Received: by gateway.apple.com with ADMIN;12 Jun 1996 12:33:34 -0700 Received: from taz.hyperreal.com ([204.152.144.36]) by mail-in2.apple.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA18655; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:35:40 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA15665; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:19:39 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA15148; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:34 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA15139; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:31 -0700 Received: (from scarab@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA20766; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:28 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 12:14:28 -0700 (PDT) From: KaySEE To: SDream cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... In-Reply-To: <199606111850.LAA23957@shellx.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 18:35:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA23473; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:35:02 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA23464; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:34:59 -0700 Received: from post-awful.apple.com (post-awful.apple.com [17.255.0.17]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id SAA23598 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:35:33 -0700 Received: from [17.202.40.154] (hahnbr.apple.com [17.202.40.154]) by post-awful.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA275140 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 18:36:27 -0700 Message-Id: <199606130136.SAA275140@post-awful.apple.com> Subject: Re: question of the week Date: Wed, 12 Jun 96 18:32:47 -0800 From: Anarch To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk ajtoy, ajtoy@ix.netcom.com wrote: >a governing board would be elected by vote (each owner would have an >equal say). the $ would be held by a member of the board and deposited >into the common bank account set up for the "site" expenses. ..We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a sort of executive officer of the week, but all the decision of that officer have to be ratified, at a special bi-weekly meeting, by a simple majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds majority.... anarch@scruznet.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 19:03:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA26039; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:03:09 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA26033; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:03:06 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id TAA10954; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:02:47 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id TAA00204; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:02:41 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 19:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... To: "Daniel J. MacMillan" cc: KaySEE , SDream , sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Daniel J. MacMillan wrote: > sample that says 'get insane to the bass' ...thats "everything is going to the beat" by basco its by far my favorite track, altho many so-so djs are wrecking it (ie. carlos at plastik slaughtered it) > > If someone knows where to find this track, let me know, > > I'd be most grateful!! > > > > -kaySEE ...its only on vinyl (basco has a single, thats what ive seen/heard/have) and its on a couple mix tapes(see below) > > > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > > > > > > > > If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have > > > it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > > > ..."gario" from texas has a intense breakbeat tape, and suposedly jeno i believe has the song a new tape of his _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* * \ | | \ | * * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * * ____ __ ======================================== * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 20:45:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA06438; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:45:52 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA06433; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:45:49 -0700 Received: (from shifty@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id UAA25884; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:45:45 -0700 (PDT) From: shifty@sfsu.edu X-Sender: shifty@pluto To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Orion... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello. This is my first time posting...but desperate needs call for desperate measures. My friend and I really really really want to go to Orion in Sacramento on Friday, but neither of us have a car....we usually rely on public transportation, but as far as I know that won't cut it for this party...anyways, if anyone has room for two people (we're very tiny, especially me) in their car, we'll pay for your ticket, gas and tolls (of course), and whatever. We're good company, and we can meet anywhere in the bay area that's bart accessible. So if anyone is willing and able to do this, if it's possible could you let me know sooner rather than later so I can buy the cheaper advance tickets? (They go up $5.00 at the door...). My email address is: shifty@sfsu.edu or bridges@soft.com (my work account) and my phone number is (415) 661-6422 I'd be grateful to anyone who could do this! Thanks, Nova. (Sorry if this is kinda long...) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 20:57:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA08212; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:57:47 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA08204; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:57:44 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA11065 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 20:57:41 -0700 Received: (kcroy@localhost) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA18346 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:02:49 -0700 From: kcroy Message-Id: <199606122102.OAA18346@shellx.best.com> Subject: NRR phat jeans To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 14:02:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 230 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk so. my old trusted baggy's have finally reached teh unwearable point (and quite a journey its been) where is a good place to geta phat pair of jeans. i mean. i dont want to see my shoes when im standing still. take care KcRoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 23:13:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA19990; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:13:25 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA19980; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:13:22 -0700 Received: from (rlunatic@sjx-ca11-13.ix.netcom.com [199.182.128.109]) by dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA27528 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:12:49 -0700 Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:12:49 -0700 Message-Id: <199606130612.XAA27528@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> From: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com (Adam Luong) Subject: Pack a Bowl! To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Could anybody send me the scoop/info on Pack a Bowl? How is it? How's the parking? No age limit right? Gotta know b4 tomorrow! Thanks! Adam R.Lunatic From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Wed Jun 12 23:17:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA20153; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:17:14 -0700 Received: from scruz.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA20146; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:17:11 -0700 Received: from [165.227.109.23] by scruz.net (8.7.3/1.34) id XAA02873; Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:17:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: anarch@mail.scruznet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 23:19:18 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: anarch@scruznet.com (Anarch) Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... Cc: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk KaySEE wrote: >Is this Basco which I think is done by dj Dan? (Please correct me if I'm >wrong.) Basco is an awesome track. The Basco track (Basco is the artist, "The Beat is Over" I think is the track name) is definitely awesome, but I'm not sure it's the track described...the guitar riff is more complicated, I think (though describing guitar riffs in ASCII is certainly not easy). As far as wanting to move the body harder than it's capable of, tho, it fits the bill pretty well. anarch@scruznet.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 02:07:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id CAA05931; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 02:07:12 -0700 Received: from natashya.eden.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id CAA05924; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 02:07:08 -0700 Received: from [206.81.226.89] (net-2-089.austin.eden.com [206.81.226.89]) by natashya.eden.com (8.7.4.1/8.7.1.1) with SMTP id EAA02265 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 04:07:00 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: polo@mail.eden.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 04:08:45 -0500 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com (PLUR Kittens) From: polo@eden.com (POLO) Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW...../Gary-O Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >>On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: >>If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have >>it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! Then mm replied: > ..."gario" from texas has a intense breakbeat tape, and suposedly > jeno i believe has the song a new tape of his It's Gary-O, actually (garyo@mail.airmail.net) and we like him a lot here in Austin as well. =) Hugz, -Chet ---- he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 06:01:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id GAA00988; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 06:01:28 -0700 Received: from mvgate.isinc.insignia.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id GAA00982; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 06:01:25 -0700 X-Address: Insignia Solutions Inc., 2200 Lawson Lane, Santa Clara, CA.95054 X-Telephone: +1 408 327 6000 X-Fax: +1 408 327 6105 Received: from Tim.isinc.insignia.com ([205.231.223.101]) by mvgate.isinc.insignia.com (5.65c8/UK-2.1.ISL) with SMTP id AA09801; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 05:59:01 -0700 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19960612130259.00667a40@email.org> X-Sender: knucklehead@email.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 12 Jun 1996 06:02:59 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: "Tim (Knucklehead)" Subject: test delete Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk testing daaaaa From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 07:17:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA07395; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:17:12 -0700 Received: from value.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA07385; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:17:08 -0700 From: blkadder@value.net Received: (from blkadder@localhost) by value.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA06696; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:16:53 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:16:53 -0700 (PDT) To: Anarch cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week In-Reply-To: <199606130136.SAA275140@post-awful.apple.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Anarch wrote: > ajtoy, ajtoy@ix.netcom.com wrote: > >a governing board would be elected by vote (each owner would have an > >equal say). the $ would be held by a member of the board and deposited > >into the common bank account set up for the "site" expenses. > > ..We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a > sort of executive officer of the week, but all the decision of that > officer have to be ratified, at a special bi-weekly meeting, by a simple > majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds > majority.... This is meant half in jest and half seriously: Some of you are worse than the government.(perhaps the above was meant sarcastically...) As I said before this issue needs to be handled right, but jeez, we are going to have ourselves so mired done in beauracratic procedures and by-laws that we are going to need permission from some sub-committee to go to the bathroom. Hey, this is America, do what everyone else does, buy your votes. $100, one vote, simple majority. A couple of people elected and willing to deal with some of the day to day affairs, conduct meetings and there you go. If we did all get together and do this, and it went off *once*, and then fell apart for whatever reasons, I would still consider it money well spent. Black Adder From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 07:30:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id HAA08418; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:30:13 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id HAA08410; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:30:09 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca5-17.ix.netcom.com [199.182.129.177]) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA01715; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:28:27 -0700 Message-ID: <31C0260C.7154@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 07:30:36 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: blkadder@value.net CC: Anarch , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: question of the week References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk blkadder@value.net wrote: > > On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Anarch wrote: > > > ajtoy, ajtoy@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > >a governing board would be elected by vote (each owner would have an > > >equal say). the $ would be held by a member of the board and deposited > > >into the common bank account set up for the "site" expenses. > > > > ..We're an anarcho-syndicalist commune. We take it in turns to act as a > > sort of executive officer of the week, but all the decision of that > > officer have to be ratified, at a special bi-weekly meeting, by a simple > > majority in the case of purely internal affairs, but by a two-thirds > > majority.... > > This is meant half in jest and half seriously: > > Some of you are worse than the government.(perhaps the above was meant > sarcastically...) > > As I said before this issue needs to be handled right, but jeez, we are > going to have ourselves so mired done in beauracratic procedures and > by-laws that we are going to need permission from some sub-committee to > go to the bathroom. > > Hey, this is America, do what everyone else does, buy your votes. $100, > one vote, simple majority. A couple of people elected and willing to deal > with some of the day to day affairs, conduct meetings and there you go. > > If we did all get together and do this, and it went off *once*, and then > fell apart for whatever reasons, I would still consider it money well > spent. > > Black Adder [snip] my sentiments... E-xactly. :) --atoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 08:13:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA13022; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 08:13:56 -0700 Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA13015; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 08:13:53 -0700 Received: (from ccat@localhost) by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id IAA20397; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 08:13:51 -0700 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Message-Id: <199606131513.IAA20397@netcom14.netcom.com> Subject: electrons to the 90's To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 08:13:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 159 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Heard at the memorial: One of the things Tim Leary said in his last few weeks... "Electrons will be to the 90's, what molecules were to the 60's" -Chris From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 09:30:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA20762; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:30:10 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA20742; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:30:04 -0700 From: Lee Fogel Message-Id: <199606131630.JAA20742@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: Timothy Leary Memorial To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Cc: jlf3@mofo.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1620 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk It would be nearly impossible to put into words all the thoughts that kept me up most of the night after returning from the Timothy Leary Memorial Celebration. By recieving the feelings and impressions from those who knew and were close to him, I was finally able to fully understand what his death (really just an extension of his life) meant to me. I'll never know the degree to which the Timithoy Leary personna that *I* know matches the actual person who bore the name, but perhaps that doesn't matter. When a single life's story can embody the complex issues of awareness, truth, illusion, courage, hype, absurdity, love, politics, mysticism, defiance, discovery... such a life becomes a focal point for the meaning of Life itself. I now see that the strength of this notion (for me) in the example of Timothy Leary is that he was so human, not a simple icon or one-dimensional symbolic hero. That makes the things he represents all that much more real. As far as entheogens go; Tim demonstrated their value as an adjunct to living and exploring life to it's limits, stretching those limits in order to learn what it's all about, and why it's all about. If that's not spiritual, then I don't know what is. "Yeah, Why Not?" has already become a cliche, but it's a pretty good one: positivity in the face of question. Such is the nature of all true journeys. Lee ____________________________________________________________________________ lxfogel@pacbell.com ( ( ( ( ((0)) ) ) ) ) lee@hyperreal.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 09:50:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA22910; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:50:47 -0700 Received: from dons.ac.usfca.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA22903; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:50:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199606131650.JAA22903@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: attention JOHN from Exite! To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: lanima00 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 155 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk hey john- i lost your e-mail address. would you mail me privately? i'd like to chat with you asap! thanks! peace, love, and other fun stuff- matt l From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 09:54:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA23158; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:54:12 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA23152; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:54:08 -0700 Received: (from arthurc@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA12771; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 09:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Arthur Chandler X-Sender: arthurc@pluto To: Lee Fogel cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com, jlf3@mofo.com Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial In-Reply-To: <199606131630.JAA20742@taz.hyperreal.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Mulling over Lee's moving post about the Tim Leary memorial, I started thinking back over other legends of the 60s that are still with us, but in spirit only: Janis Joplin...Jimi Hendrix...Bill Graham... Jerry Garcia...Tim Leary..... John Lennon.... When you're in the midst of a movement, it seems as though it and its most visible participants will last forever. Then you hear the news: one more gone into eternity. Only then do we start to form a true idea of what they meant to us, because now that they are gone their life-stories are complete. So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 10:31:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA26864; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:31:33 -0700 Received: from gw3.pacbell.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA26839; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:31:20 -0700 Received: from srv.PacBell.COM (mother.srv.PacBell.COM) by gw3.pacbell.com (5.x/PacBell-10/18/95) id AA22304; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:29:54 -0700 Received: from pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM by srv.PacBell.COM (4.1/Mother-7/26/95) id AA02933; Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:29:50 PDT Received: by pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20931; Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:29:44 PDT From: lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel) Message-Id: <9606131729.AA20931@pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM> Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial To: arthurc@sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 10:28:54 PDT Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: ; from "Arthur Chandler" at Jun 13, 96 9:54 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Arthur Asks: > So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the > Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? I like to think that the lack of leaders and focal points in rave culture means that raving will evolve indefinately, and be timeless, rather than a movement that runs a specific course, and then is forced to make way for something else that seems more relevant for the times. Lee _________________________________________________________________________ lxfogel@pacbell.com ( ( ( ( ((0)) ) ) ) ) lee@hyperreal.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 10:38:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA27465; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:38:30 -0700 Received: from horatio.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA27434; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:38:20 -0700 Received: (from knegtel@localhost) by horatio.ucsf.EDU (940816.SGI.8.6.9/GSC4.24) id KAA02220 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:38:14 -0700 From: "Ronald Knegtel" Message-Id: <9606131038.ZM2218@horatio.ucsf.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:38:13 -0700 In-Reply-To: Arthur Chandler "Re: Timothy Leary Memorial" (Jun 13, 9:54am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Jun 13, 9:54am, Arthur Chandler wrote: > Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial > > Mulling over Lee's moving post about the Tim Leary memorial, I started > thinking back over other legends of the 60s that are still with us, but > in spirit only: > Janis Joplin...Jimi Hendrix...Bill Graham... > Jerry Garcia...Tim Leary..... John Lennon.... > When you're in the midst of a movement, it seems as though it and its most > visible participants will last forever. Then you hear the news: one more > gone into eternity. Only then do we start to form a true idea of what they > meant to us, because now that they are gone their life-stories are complete. > So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the > Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? > My guess it's every single one of us. As I see it, an important aspect of the rave scene is its lack of long term idols and gurus. Everybody is free to experience this phenomenon on his/her own terms and in his/her own context ranging from spirituality to just digging the music. At least that used to be one of the major attractions to me although the past few years the introduction of commerce into the scene has caused a lot more uniformity among the people I meet, the music I hear and the parties I witness than I appreciate. The Frying Dutchman P.S. And for all you Funghi Fiends, check out this Dutch URL: http://www.xs4all.nl/~psee/ Especially the disclaimer is good fun. I'm not too sure how safe it is to order these "ornaments" from here, though. But still, don't you feel sorry you live on this side of the ocean? Thinking of Holland.... ;-) -- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 10:44:39 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA29053; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:44:39 -0700 Received: from softway95.softway.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA29045; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:44:37 -0700 Received: (from rw@localhost) by softway95.softway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA06092 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:37:46 -0700 From: Renaud Waldura Message-Id: <199606131737.KAA06092@softway95.softway.com> Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:37:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9606131729.AA20931@pbssi.srv.PacBell.COM> from "Lee Fogel" at Jun 13, 96 10:28:54 am Reply-to: rw@softway.com Organization: Softway, Inc. (San Francisco) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 831 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Lee Fogel wrote: > > Arthur Asks: > > So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the > > Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? > > I like to think that the lack of leaders and focal points in > rave culture means that raving will evolve indefinately, and be > timeless, rather than a movement that runs a specific course, and > then is forced to make way for something else that seems more > relevant for the times. Interesting thought, I'd like that too, but you only need to look at the big fuss made around Orbital/Chem Bros/The Orb coming in SF soon to understand that this thought isn't valid anymore. So I don't believe in this flat scene, sorry. Maybe any movement just _need_ a leader, a personnality to identify with... Maybe is it just impossible to do without. Morning opinions, Renaud From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 10:45:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA29109; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:45:10 -0700 Received: from emout15.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA29102; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:45:08 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout15.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA21797 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:44:47 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:44:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960613134446_134237361@emout15.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Oh my, Scott Hardkiss was at The Lounge (Sacto) last night and played a tripped out spacey version of Rocket Man by Elton John, you know ("...And I'm gonna be Hiiiiigheyii... as a kite by then") it was very nice. Anyway, my "thinks all, knows all" friend tells me I better enjoy it because I'll never hear it again. I guess Scot made that record and is getting sued for it, worst of all, it never got to the stores. Can anyone confirm this, I would give my left arm and my mother to get a copy. I think it's gonna be a long long time, Steveo From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 10:45:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA29170; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:45:45 -0700 Received: from emout12.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA29164; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:45:42 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout12.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA20561; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:45:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:45:27 -0400 Message-ID: <960613134527_134237737@emout12.mail.aol.com> To: gregor_h@interramp.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Searching for housing in SF Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You're not kidding, the housing situation really sucks right now. I'm also looking for a place, it seems there are a few people on the list right now. Perhaps we can all keep our eyes out for a larger place, expanding our options couldn't hurt. I'm actually looking for a place in Berkely, but I would certainly consider SF. Love, sTeVeO I'm a designer/student/business owner. I dont make too much $, but I'm reliable, fairly neat, considerate, accepting and best of all, I'VE GOT ONE 1200 TOO! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 11:25:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA03489; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:25:48 -0700 Received: from softway95.softway.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA03480; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:25:45 -0700 Received: (from rw@localhost) by softway95.softway.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA06302 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:18:51 -0700 From: Renaud Waldura Message-Id: <199606131818.LAA06302@softway95.softway.com> Subject: Typical SF Techno? (RFC) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Reply-to: rw@softway.com Organization: Softway, Inc. (San Francisco) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 477 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi, A DJ friend in France asks me to send him some "typical" american Techno... Gloops: I'm not a DJ, and is quite busy without that, so the only way for me to fill his request is to ask your help! Could some cool people pick 2 or 3 vinyl titles they consider Bay Area anthems and send me their titles and where I can find them? It would permit me to just jump in the store, ask for them and go to the next... Thanks for my friend and the French scene! :) Renaud From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 11:28:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA03711; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:28:20 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA03701; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:28:17 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id LAA02293; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:28:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606131828.LAA02293@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: ez056875@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Matt Wietzke/DJ Xpress Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW...../Gary-O Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Just for all your info. In about one month, I will have my second mix tape out that with include this song, along with mucho other favorites! I'll be sure to let y'all know when I am done with it! At 04:08 AM 6/13/96 -0500, you wrote: >>>On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > >>>If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have >>>it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > >Then mm replied: > >> ..."gario" from texas has a intense breakbeat tape, and suposedly >> jeno i believe has the song a new tape of his > >It's Gary-O, actually (garyo@mail.airmail.net) and we like him a lot here >in Austin as well. =) > >Hugz, >-Chet > >---- >he*don*ism: n. 1. The doctrine that pleasure is the only goal > of moral endeavor. 2. The pursuit of pleasure. > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Matthew S. Wietzke University of California, Davis _________________________________________________________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 11:35:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA04385; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:35:25 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA04372; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:35:22 -0700 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (uclink.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.3]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA23922 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from anthrax@localhost) by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id LAA06341 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:32:21 -0700 From: Ann Elizabeth Loraine Message-Id: <199606131832.LAA06341@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: New Moon Saturday To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 11:32:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi everybody, I posted earlier that we are having a New Moon celebration this Saturday. The number you should call for directions is: 415-267-3076. Here's what you should bring to the party: water, food, something for the altar, good shoes, warm clothes, sunscreen (if you plan to stay the next day) and, most important of all, a FLASHLIGHT!!!! The night will be very dark - no moon, you see- and you will need a flashlight to get around. Also, there is no camping allowed at the spot so please do not bring tents. Please remember to be respectful of the site. It would be great if everyone helped out with keeping the spot clean and litter-free. If you smoke cigarettes, please take your butts home with you when you leave. We will need help cleaning up the spot the next day so please plan to help out with that. Our goal is to leave the place in pristine condition, better than we found it. -Ann From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 12:10:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA08559; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:10:15 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA08543; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:10:10 -0700 Received: from (ascend@sjx-ca72-21.ix.netcom.com [207.92.177.149]) by dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA08750 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:09:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:09:37 -0700 Message-Id: <199606131909.MAA08750@dfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com> From: ascend@ix.netcom.com (Gregory Sandler ) Subject: Free Harmony Party!!! (bsp) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello everyone, Well, it is time again to go to the beach!!! We are planning a free day party on a friendly beach in Santa Cruz. It will be on Saturday, June 29th. We are going to start setting up around noon, (which means, don't plan on hearing any music until 1-1:30, since we lag!!!) But, never the less, we will be there!!! Info will be posted on our voice mails- (408)486-9591 & (408)450-3044 We hope to see all of you there!!! So come on down!!! Bring blankets (warm and dry one's), warm and cold clothes, food, water, and lots and lots of positivity!!! (grapes) Can't wait... See ya there!!! Peace, love and harmony to all, The Crew :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 12:30:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA10806; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:30:14 -0700 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA10790; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:30:09 -0700 Received: from [198.97.35.13] by tapeheads.ednet.net with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:35:09 -0700 X-Sender: ambient@netcom13.netcom.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <960613134446_134237361@emout15.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:24:58 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 10:44 AM -0700 6/13/96, SteveOSac@aol.com wrote: >Oh my, Scott Hardkiss was at The Lounge (Sacto) last night and played a >tripped out spacey version of Rocket Man by Elton John, you know ("...And I'm >gonna be Hiiiiigheyii... as a kite by then") it was very nice. Anyway, my >"thinks all, knows all" friend tells me I better enjoy it because I'll never >hear it again. I guess Scot made that record and is getting sued for it, >worst of all, it never got to the stores. Can anyone confirm this, I would >give my left arm and my mother to get a copy. >I think it's gonna be a long long time, >Steveo Dunno if it was "Rocket Man" but there was a Hardkiss Elton John remix out commercially last year and I saw it all over the place. The only recent Hardkiss lawsuits I've heard of are rumors regarding the Robbie Hardkiss mix CD. Joe (:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 12:32:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA11029; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:32:37 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA11017; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:32:34 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA28341 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:31:12 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA08193 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:32:11 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id MAA11036 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:32:09 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:32:53 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Who's going to Monolith? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey, y'all! Monolith looks like it's gonna be cool. Who's planning on going? I'd like to, but I'd need someone to pick me up a ticket, and I can repay before the party. Thanks! - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 12:41:46 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA12031; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:41:46 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA12016; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:41:41 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id MAA09514; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id MAA00875; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606131944.MAA00875@tuna.hooked.net> To: SteveOSac@aol.com, gregor_h@interramp.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Searching for housing in SF Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, Jun 13, 1996 1:45:27 PM at SteveOSac@aol.com wrote: >You're not kidding, the housing situation really sucks right now. I'm also >looking for a place, it seems there are a few people on the list right now. > Perhaps we can all keep our eyes out for a larger place, expanding our >options couldn't hurt. I'm actually looking for a place in Berkely, but I >would certainly consider SF. >Love, >sTeVeO >I'm a designer/student/business owner. I dont make too much $, but I'm >reliable, fairly neat, considerate, accepting and best of all, I'VE GOT ONE >1200 TOO! I'm looking for a place starting September... or is that too late for everybody? --erik **IMPORTANT! READ DISCLAIMER** These words were NOT written by moonpup He's in London until late August ...and I'm ERIK. I'll be using his address until then Please address all comments, rebuttals, love or hate letters to me, ERIK or drop me a line... 415-337-6666 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 12:52:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA13356; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:52:40 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA13344; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:52:36 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA06018; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:52:09 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:52:08 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: Joe Rice cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > Dunno if it was "Rocket Man" but there was a Hardkiss Elton John remix out > commercially last year and I saw it all over the place. The only recent > Hardkiss lawsuits I've heard of are rumors regarding the Robbie Hardkiss > mix CD. What about that white label with the ELO sample on it? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:11:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA15296; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:11:04 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15288; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:11:00 -0700 Received: from (shawna-@wck-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com [204.31.231.44]) by dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA07329 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:10:26 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:10:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199606132010.NAA07329@dfw-ix3.ix.netcom.com> From: shawna-@ix.netcom.com (Shawna McGourty) Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >> So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the >> Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? > >I like to think that the lack of leaders and focal points in >rave culture means that raving will evolve indefinately, and be >timeless, rather than a movement that runs a specific course, and >then is forced to make way for something else that seems more >relevant for the times. I'm inclined to agree here, someone in the past on the list did mention that a significant difference between the Dead scene & the rave scene is there is not any one person/group of people that everyone else "looks to" in the rave scene as there was in the dead scene. When Jerry died, sure seemed like there were a lot of dead-heads metaphorically wandering around scratching their heads with blank looks in their eyes wondering what they were gonna do next! A lot of what made the dead scene the dead scene seemed to be having the Grateful Dead as the main focal point. What makes the rave scene is every person who's in the rave scene, the scene itself is the focal point. (we're kind of like a big rave amoeba!) The only rave equivalent I can think of to Jerry dying is if suddenly all the 1200's in the world broke down at once! ;) Love, Shawna From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:16:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA15718; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:16:32 -0700 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA15711; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:16:29 -0700 Received: from [198.97.35.13] by tapeheads.ednet.net with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:21:30 -0700 X-Sender: ambient@netcom13.netcom.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:20:50 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 12:52 PM -0700 6/13/96, John wrote: >> Dunno if it was "Rocket Man" but there was a Hardkiss Elton John remix out >> commercially last year and I saw it all over the place. The only recent >> Hardkiss lawsuits I've heard of are rumors regarding the Robbie Hardkiss >> mix CD. > >What about that white label with the ELO sample on it? That was a threatened lawsuit I'd bet and that's why it was a white label. They never cleared the sample and all the official releases of the Phoenix had someone else playing the same guitar part in place of the sample. The whole flap certainly made those white labels valuable, though. Joe (:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:21:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA16408; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:21:32 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA16401; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:21:28 -0700 Received: (from sandoz@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA26013; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:20:40 -0700 (PDT) From: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG X-Sender: sandoz@pluto To: Marisa Giancarla cc: kcroy , sfraves Subject: Re: Hardcore In-Reply-To: <199606111709.KAA06293@psiwa5.Syntex.Com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Check-out any tape from the Universe parties that happened in England about three years ago. Simply blinding techno. Tapes were on sale at Ameba but I don't know if they have any left (probably). On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Marisa Giancarla wrote: > > > > > > How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else > > > suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? > > I know the feeling. I really only get into techno when it has a 4/4 > beat and is at least 180bpm, with lots of sampled screams thrown in a big > plus. Since I moved to the bay area I have pretty much given up on hearing > this kind of stuff "live", and I am making do importing gabber from germany > & rotterdam. The LA label Cleopatra (and their sub label Hypnotic) do put out > a few moderately hardcore compilation albums, "Terrortrance" and "Trance Hardcore" > being two of my favorites. > > Marisa > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:28:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA17009; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:28:04 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA17004; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:28:01 -0700 Received: (from sandoz@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA26401; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG X-Sender: sandoz@pluto To: "-=]madame mercury[=-" cc: Cassandra Ann Thomas , Jonathan Mark Logan , friends&family Subject: Re: orbital In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk There $20 providing you don't go through Bass (which stands for Bay Area Super scumbags) in which case they charge $4.50 per order (each order is limmitted to four tickets per order) as well as a $2.50 "covienience fee" for ordering by credit card. On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, -=]madame mercury[=- wrote: > Do you know how much the tickets are for the June 24th show @ the Fillmore? > > -mhg > > > _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* > * \ | | \ | * > * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * > *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * > * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * > * ____ __ ======================================== > * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== > * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== > * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== > * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== > * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= > * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== > * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * > *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:42:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA18497; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:42:18 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA18489; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:42:13 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id NAA18482; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:40:31 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:40:31 -0700 Message-Id: <199606132040.NAA18482@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel) From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Arthur Asks: >> So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the >> Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? > >I like to think that the lack of leaders and focal points in >rave culture means that raving will evolve indefinately, and be >timeless, rather than a movement that runs a specific course, and >then is forced to make way for something else that seems more >relevant for the times. > >Lee Perhapse, but maybe this scene will be more like the 60's then we think. Leary is a hero/icon but how many 20-somethings really know what he did, not many (no not because of anything like jaded youth :) because he helped to create the _context_ within which the House Movement or Rave Scene (which ever you prefer) was born, if Tim had not did what he did, when he did it, I think it's safe to say there would be no rave scene as we know it, if at all. Tim did so much of the initial ground breaking on how to safely take psychedelics to the point where we can have large numbers of people dose these days with less incident then a couple dozen people drunk on booze, Tim was arrested 29 times in his life, Nixon labled him the most dangerous man in America and set his bail at $5,000,000 (for possession of two roaches). Most kids don't realize how afraid the government was(is) of psychedelics. Leary was special, it was not like so poor white-trash or street nigga telling people to turn-on, tune-in and drop-out. This was a renegade from the "ruling elite", a Harvard Professor, a PhD someone with credentials (It has been said in Ol' Boston towne, that the lad's from MIT make the World run but the lad's from Harvard Run the World :) Leary demonstrated what some quantum physicist know full well, that reality is at best consensual and at worst relative to the observer. Leary was a very threat to the fabric of the society of the time because once people realize that they can make that chair in front of them turn into a dragon, that maybe jusdt maybe the stuff they see on TV isn't any more real then that dragon that the chair has become, after all in both cases it's just one's brain interpreting the photon's that are hitting one's eyes and then having a dialog about the effect. Maybe the Government is lying to us. Not many people on a mass level entertained this though before the 60's. Leary showed us that _we_ could program _our_ own reality and we didn't need the Government/Media to do it for us, this pissed _alot_ of people off. He paid the price. One person at the service told a story about a young person (6 or 7 ) who, after hearing all the co-motion about the Death of Tim Leary say" What did this man do? Free the slaves or something? We'll we're not quite free yet, things are a little better, or are they. My ansestors worked on a plantation, they had no choice, they worked from sun up to sun down, Mastah in the big house gave them shelter,food, clothing, medical care and some hand me downs, you couldn't leave the plantation unless Mastah sold you. Today not just black folks have to work on the Plant(ation) but we'z all free, Mastah don't own us, we don't work for a barrel of sorgum, masta (I'mean) the Corporation gives us a little piece of paper called a paycheck and we have to find our own shelter, food, clothing, medical care on our own time We works from sun-up past sun-down but just like the slaves of old we gits to party at night just so long as we don't make too much noise and wake up Mastah (er, I'mmean so that we don't create any noise complaints) But we are free! Or are we? From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:43:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA18698; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:43:03 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA18657; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:42:59 -0700 Received: (from sandoz@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA27352; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:42:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:42:46 -0700 (PDT) From: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG X-Sender: sandoz@pluto To: Vince cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: cops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I would love to say that this is an example of the new political regime of San Francisco but I am afriad to say that it is just a question of economics. SFPD, short in numbers especially on a day like that of a free Clinton show, simply do not have the man power to arrest people for smoking especially when there could have been an alchohol riot. Every time an individual is arrested at an event such as this it takes two cops to do the arresting which takes them off the street and back to station leaving the event under-maned. Owing to a Fedreal law which states there must be X number of police to Y number of spectators this would have left the event under-maned whith the result that future events like this would not be able to be held costing Mayor Willy Brown much needed votes in SF's 18-30 community. Ah the problems of being a democrat! On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Vince wrote: > >yup, there definetly are good cops and bad cops. so he tells > >us that what were doing is illegal, but he didnt want to bust the party, > >saying he had better things to do > > {snip} > > > OK, just a quick cop story. We went to the 11th street block party on Sat > night to try and see George Clinton get *phunky*, (but we got there late). > We stuck around for a few hours dancing in the street to some funky old > disco. Every officer I saw that night was smiling, we dressed up a bit too, > so they kinda had to smile or even laugh at us. Some were even shakin' it > up a bit. I saw folks even lighting up right in front of the police. One > officer motioned to a guy to put it away, others just let it go. It was > pretty cool to groove with the police all around, without feeling any > pressure from them, and with the amount of alcohol consummed by many of the > patrons that night, I'm kinda glad they were there (just in case). > > So is this the product of a new Mayor and DA ?? just a thought. > > Vince > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:47:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA19221; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:47:26 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA19158; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:47:17 -0700 Received: from [205.231.222.75] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:47:10 -0700 X-Sender: knucklehead@mail.domain.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: knucklehead@club.net (Knucklehead) Subject: House/Techno DJ needed Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:47:10 -0700 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Sorry if you got this twice, but I don't think the last one went. I have a chance to spin at a house party for a graduation party type thing in the South Bay on June 22nd from 3-7pm, but I might not be able to spin and was wondering if anyone out here was interested. Just email me and I'll give you the info. Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 13:50:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA20388; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:50:04 -0700 Received: from gw3.pacbell.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA20368; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:49:59 -0700 Received: from pbsdav.sdcrc.pacbell.com by gw3.pacbell.com (5.x/PacBell-10/18/95) id AA18857; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:49:27 -0700 Received: by pbsdav.sdcrc.pacbell.com (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA037478985; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 13:49:45 -0700 From: Marcos Message-Id: <199606132049.AA037478985@pbsdav.sdcrc.pacbell.com> Subject: Southern Travel To: sfraves@hyperreal.com (pArtY pEoPle!) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 13:49:44 PDT Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85.2.1] Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello all, A friend and I will be attending the party down by Bear next weekend. We can each take one more person down and back up if anyone is interested. Ted menriquez@ssg2.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:14:46 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA23287; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:14:46 -0700 Received: from mail.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA23272; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:14:42 -0700 Received: from crl8.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA02062 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:10:16 -0700 Received: by crl8.crl.com id AA19066 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:08:43 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: David Minuk To: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG Cc: Vince , sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: cops In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yes but they could also write you a ticket(notice to appear). David On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG wrote: > I would love to say that this is an example of the new political > regime of > San Francisco but I am afriad to say that it is just a question of > economics. SFPD, short in numbers especially on a day like that of a > free Clinton show, simply do not have the man power to arrest people for > smoking especially when there could have been an alchohol riot. Every > time an individual is arrested at an event such as this it takes two cops > to do the arresting which takes them off the street and back to station > leaving the event under-maned. Owing to a Fedreal law which states there > must be X number of police to Y number of spectators this would have left > the event under-maned whith the result that future events like this would > not be able to be held costing Mayor Willy Brown much needed votes in > SF's 18-30 community. Ah the problems of being a democrat! > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Vince wrote: > > > >yup, there definetly are good cops and bad cops. so he tells > > >us that what were doing is illegal, but he didnt want to bust the party, > > >saying he had better things to do > > > > {snip} > > > > > > OK, just a quick cop story. We went to the 11th street block party on Sat > > night to try and see George Clinton get *phunky*, (but we got there late). > > We stuck around for a few hours dancing in the street to some funky old > > disco. Every officer I saw that night was smiling, we dressed up a bit too, > > so they kinda had to smile or even laugh at us. Some were even shakin' it > > up a bit. I saw folks even lighting up right in front of the police. One > > officer motioned to a guy to put it away, others just let it go. It was > > pretty cool to groove with the police all around, without feeling any > > pressure from them, and with the amount of alcohol consummed by many of the > > patrons that night, I'm kinda glad they were there (just in case). > > > > So is this the product of a new Mayor and DA ?? just a thought. > > > > Vince > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:20:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA24035; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:20:59 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA24028; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:20:56 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id OAA07160; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:20:35 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:20:35 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: Joe Rice cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > >What about that white label with the ELO sample on it? > > That was a threatened lawsuit I'd bet and that's why it was a white label. > They never cleared the sample and all the official releases of the Phoenix > had someone else playing the same guitar part in place of the sample. The > whole flap certainly made those white labels valuable, though. I've got an extra copy if anyone wants to buy one... :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:21:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA24232; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:21:58 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA24208; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:21:52 -0700 Received: (from sandoz@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA29809; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:21:36 -0700 (PDT) From: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG X-Sender: sandoz@pluto To: Adam Luong cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Pack a Bowl! In-Reply-To: <199606130612.XAA27528@dfw-ix8.ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk After the fights a week before last is it still going on? I don't think so. Call b4 hand for info. It's am Ameba event. On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Adam Luong wrote: > Could anybody send me the scoop/info on Pack a Bowl? > > How is it? How's the parking? > > No age limit right? > > Gotta know b4 tomorrow! > > > Thanks! > > Adam > R.Lunatic > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:32:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA25382; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:32:32 -0700 Received: from horatio.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA25376; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:32:29 -0700 Received: (from knegtel@localhost) by horatio.ucsf.EDU (940816.SGI.8.6.9/GSC4.24) id OAA01144 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:32:28 -0700 From: "Ronald Knegtel" Message-Id: <9606131432.ZM1142@horatio.ucsf.edu> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:32:27 -0700 In-Reply-To: Renaud Waldura "Re: Timothy Leary Memorial" (Jun 13, 10:37am) References: <199606131737.KAA06092@softway95.softway.com> X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Jun 13, 10:37am, Renaud Waldura wrote: > Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial > Lee Fogel wrote: > > > > Arthur Asks: > > > So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the > > > Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? > > > > I like to think that the lack of leaders and focal points in > > rave culture means that raving will evolve indefinately, and be > > timeless, rather than a movement that runs a specific course, and > > then is forced to make way for something else that seems more > > relevant for the times. > > Interesting thought, I'd like that too, but you only need to look > at the big fuss made around Orbital/Chem Bros/The Orb coming > in SF soon to understand that this thought isn't valid anymore. I don't think this is the same thing. Does anybody know for instance the personal names of any of the people in these bands? Their political views, personal life? In the rave scene people admire DJ's and performers but things go out of fashion in a few years. Few of the older records are still played or remembered by the current generation of ravers and often DJs are expected to play the latest records. None of the above mentioned bands present us with a new concept or view of the world, they just make good music. There have been many others like them and there will me many more (I hope). > > So I don't believe in this flat scene, sorry. Maybe any movement > just _need_ a leader, a personnality to identify with... Maybe > is it just impossible to do without. Name one personality in the rave-scene who has a similar influence on the ravers of today as Timothy Leary had of the people of the 60's/70's. I can not think of a "leader", only of good artists. Raving is more of a hedonistic experience to a lot of people than a political, spiritual thing. I does wonders in our personal lives, our view of the world but little to the world itself (my opinion). Perhaps that is a more realistic approach than that of previous generations, start with yourself and the rest will follow? The Frying Dutchman P.s. For DJing friends in Holland I just bought a few mix tapes, many import record shops in Europe would allow them to buy the records there. This would allow your friend in France to take his own pick from the tapes and go after what he likes most? -- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:41:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA26409; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:41:07 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26393; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:41:03 -0700 Received: (from sandoz@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA01361; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:40:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:40:57 -0700 (PDT) From: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG X-Sender: sandoz@pluto To: David Minuk cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: cops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk yeah your right. Good point On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, David Minuk wrote: > Yes but they could also write you a ticket(notice to appear). > > David > > On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG wrote: > > > I would love to say that this is an example of the new political > > regime of > > San Francisco but I am afriad to say that it is just a question of > > economics. SFPD, short in numbers especially on a day like that of a > > free Clinton show, simply do not have the man power to arrest people for > > smoking especially when there could have been an alchohol riot. Every > > time an individual is arrested at an event such as this it takes two cops > > to do the arresting which takes them off the street and back to station > > leaving the event under-maned. Owing to a Fedreal law which states there > > must be X number of police to Y number of spectators this would have left > > the event under-maned whith the result that future events like this would > > not be able to be held costing Mayor Willy Brown much needed votes in > > SF's 18-30 community. Ah the problems of being a democrat! > > > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Vince wrote: > > > > > >yup, there definetly are good cops and bad cops. so he tells > > > >us that what were doing is illegal, but he didnt want to bust the party, > > > >saying he had better things to do > > > > > > {snip} > > > > > > > > > OK, just a quick cop story. We went to the 11th street block party on Sat > > > night to try and see George Clinton get *phunky*, (but we got there late). > > > We stuck around for a few hours dancing in the street to some funky old > > > disco. Every officer I saw that night was smiling, we dressed up a bit too, > > > so they kinda had to smile or even laugh at us. Some were even shakin' it > > > up a bit. I saw folks even lighting up right in front of the police. One > > > officer motioned to a guy to put it away, others just let it go. It was > > > pretty cool to groove with the police all around, without feeling any > > > pressure from them, and with the amount of alcohol consummed by many of the > > > patrons that night, I'm kinda glad they were there (just in case). > > > > > > So is this the product of a new Mayor and DA ?? just a thought. > > > > > > Vince > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:43:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA26616; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:43:20 -0700 Received: from jeeves.usfca.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26606; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:43:17 -0700 Received: from duckman.usfca.edu (duckman.usfca.edu [138.202.32.151]) by jeeves.usfca.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA09339 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:36:12 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:36:12 -0700 Message-Id: <199606132136.OAA09339@jeeves.usfca.edu> X-Sender: reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu (Jake Reichert) Subject: Job help needed! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello there all my fellow listies, Well, I'm back from my two week hiatus from behind the Orange Curtain. However, it looks like I'm going to be at home (down in SoCal) for most of this summer, and not up here as originally planned. So I've got a little question for you all. Is anyone aware of any job openings for web publishing that I can do from home? I have my own computer, so remote access isn't a problem. I've done some web publishing before, but nothing too extensive. However, I've got a good grasp of all the basics, I'm a pretty good graphic artist (with all my own software - Ray Dream, 3Dstudio, photoshop, painter, etc.), I'm in the process of learning Perl, and I'm willing to learn Java, SQL, or any other applications relating to Web Publishing. If you know of any openings, please let me know. Thanks, Jake P.S. I've been working with computers for a while now, and have a lot of relevant experience (I taught myself C so that I could program continuous speech recognition on a parallel processor, so I'm pretty good at picking up computer-related skills quickly). P.P.S. And if the employer needs any 4AD rarities taped for them, I can help with that too :) Jake Reichert | I used to be indecisive/ reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu | But now I'm not so sure... | -The The -------------------------------------------------------------------- "LONELY IS AS LONELY DOES" B.C. Gilbert/G. Lewis ------------------------ The Happy Family A=====================================V Bulgarian Voices | Pixies | | | ____ | Bauhaus | Frazier Chorus | /| | /\ | | \ | Michael Brook | Spirea X | / | | / \ | | \ | The Breeders | Colourbox | / | | / \ | | | | Dead Can Dance | Dif Juz | /___| | /______\ | | | | Throwing Muses | The The | | | / \ | | / | Clan of Xymox | Rema-Rema | | | / \ | |___ / | Cocteau Twins | Liquorice A=====================================M Lisa Germano | M|A|R|R|S X Mal Deutschland | Dance Chapter | Insides | The Birthday Party A.R. Kane | Rowland S. Howard & Lydia Lunch | C.V.O | Air Miami Ultra Vivid Scene | Unrest | Pieter Nooten/Michael Brook | Swallow That Dog. | Psychotic Tanks | Lisa Gerrard | Last Dance | Lush Modern English | Budd/Fraser/Guthrie/Raymonde | This Mortal Coil The Wolfgang Press | Richenel | His Name Is Alive | Pale Saints The Glee Club --------------------------------- Colin Newman "LONELY IS AN EYESORE" From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 14:45:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA26926; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:45:19 -0700 Received: from pluto.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA26896; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:45:15 -0700 Received: (from sandoz@localhost) by pluto.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id OAA01674; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:45:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 14:45:10 -0700 (PDT) From: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG X-Sender: sandoz@pluto To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: HIA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Who ever recomended that Higher Intelligence Agency record "Colour Form." Your taste is impeckable my man, simply impeckable. Check out the other one called "Free Floater." From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:11:20 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA29720; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:11:20 -0700 Received: from tapeheads.ednet.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA29696; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:11:13 -0700 Received: from [198.97.35.13] by tapeheads.ednet.net with ESMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:16:10 -0700 X-Sender: ambient@netcom13.netcom.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <9606131432.ZM1142@horatio.ucsf.edu> References: Renaud Waldura "Re: Timothy Leary Memorial" (Jun 13, 10:37am) <199606131737.KAA06092@softway95.softway.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:15:31 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Joe Rice Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 2:32 PM -0700 6/13/96, Ronald Knegtel wrote: > >I don't think this is the same thing. Does anybody know for instance the >personal names of any of the people in these bands? Their political views, >personal life? In the rave scene people admire DJ's and performers but >things go out of fashion in a few years. Few of the older records are >still played or remembered by the current generation of ravers and >often DJs are expected to play the latest records. None of the above >mentioned bands present us with a new concept or view of the world, they >just make good music. There have been many others like them and there >will me many more (I hope). > Orbital's (Phil & Paul Hartnoll) fairly involved in political and especially causes - check the liner notes of their new album for details. The first track was recorded using only solar power for all their gear. Joe (:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:) (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) (: anything like it!" :) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:13:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA00178; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:13:44 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA00166; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:13:36 -0700 Received: from v-site by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id PAA18732; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:13:30 -0700 Message-ID: <31C09275.64AB@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:13:09 -0700 From: ameba Organization: ameba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KaySEE CC: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Wow...WOWWWWWWW..... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk KaySEE wrote: > > Is this Basco which I think is done by dj Dan? (Please correct me if I'm > wrong.) Basco is an awesome track. I fell in love with it the first time > I heard it because of the guitar samples. The second time I heard it was > at Harmony's BP. If someone knows where to find this track, let me know, > I'd be most grateful!! > > -kaySEE > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, SDream wrote: > > > Ok everyone, as long as I'm testing your music skills, I have to know where > > to get this particular piece of music. I hear it at most raves and it makes > > me want to move my body harder than it's capable of. There's this sound > > like an electric guitar, one stroke, kinda distant. A pause, then louder, > > two strokes. Kinda like wow...WOWWOWWWWwwwwww..... I *love* this piece! > > It makes me freak! > > > > If someone could tell me who does it, what label, what DJ tapes would have > > it, that sort of thing, I'd be in your debt! > > > > S > > > > > > ****Shit, goddamn, get off your ass and jam****THE Basco records not by dan but he plays it a lot "its the beat" we'll try to get more of these at Ameba ,blue vinyl an all M From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:31:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA01894; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:31:58 -0700 Received: from arl-img-7.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA01878; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:31:51 -0700 Received: by arl-img-7.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA28256; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:07 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:30 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: NRR: Poison Oak answer To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21A9@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TO: John Rahm, INTERNET:jrahm@innercite.com Re: Re: NRR: Poison Oak answer Actually, Tec-nu works very well at "pulling" the oil out of the skin after exposure has turned into that nasty rash. It might require a few applications though. It's also recommended that you put some into the wash cycle when cleaning anything that has been exposed to the oil....I.E. clothes, sleeping bags, towels etc. Or you can even use it to clean off camping equipment if it is to be used soon and might have been contaminated. Don't forget those sleeping bags people, or the next raver who crashes at your pad may get more than just a good nights sleep. Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:31:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA01896; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:31:59 -0700 Received: from arl-img-2.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA01879; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:31:51 -0700 Received: by arl-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA23281; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:11 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:38 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Greetings SFraves To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21AB@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TO: Shawna McGourty, INTERNET:shawna-@ix.netcom.com Re: Re: Greetings SFraves Good day Shawna, I am going to be in the east bay area on Fri-Sat to test my generator against a friend's band's equip. Need to know if it will handle all their stuff at full volume. This should only take the Saturday morning to early afternoon time slot. My return to the Sacto area will ultimately be at the hands of Tom, who has graciously volunteered to drive this time. His only condition being that we get to a nice beach. Tom (a "new", and enthusiastic raver) might be persuaded to detour to a "New Moon" if the Tix aren't too much and we can get them on Fri-Sat afternoon. Please send me any information you have and I'll work on any responsible thoughts he might have about this weekend. Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:32:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA01943; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:09 -0700 Received: from dub-img-2.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA01892; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:31:57 -0700 Received: by dub-img-2.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA19174; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:25 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:46 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Greetings SFraves To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21AD@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TO: INTERNET:SteveOSac@aol.com, INTERNET:SteveOSac@aol.com Re: Re: Greetings SFraves Good day Steve, I might be back to Sac. in time to catch your BBQ-house party on Saturday. 6pm wasn't it? But if I can con the person who is driving me to the Bay on Friday into it, we might go to a "New Moon" Saturday evening. It's all up in the air right now and, no matter where we end up, it should be a great time. ......If only I could figure out a way to be at all the parties at the same time...hmmm....... Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:32:13 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA01962; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:13 -0700 Received: from arl-img-1.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA01925; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:02 -0700 Received: by arl-img-1.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA02338; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:30 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:32:00 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Greetings SFraves To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21B3@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TO: Eric P. Peterson, INTERNET:epaul@Synopsys.COM Re: Re: Greetings SFraves Good day Eric, I will be in the Bay area to test some equipment on Saturday morning-afternnon. But the length of my stay depends entirely on my ride back to Sacramento. If I can compel him to stay for a party, I will. If not, I think I'll try and make it to Steveo's BBQ. Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:32:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA01996; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:37 -0700 Received: from hil-img-3.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA01990; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:32:34 -0700 Received: by hil-img-3.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id SAA21527; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:27 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:31:54 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Greetings SFraves To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21B0@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TO: John Kawamoto, INTERNET:jkawamoto@excite.com Re: Re: Greetings SFraves Good day John, During the writing of my introduction message, it was impossible to write anything that wasn't entirely positive. I was trying to capture the effect that the people from the rave scene have had on my life since I went to my first party. This and to relate a few happenings that have inspired me to become, I feel, a better person from their example. I will be in the Bay to do some equipment testing on Saturday morning-afternoon. But I think my ride back to Sacramento will wan't to return home that evening. If I can persuade him otherwise, and the Tix aren't too much, who knows? Thank you very much for the ride offer. This is the kind of generosity that allows the transportationally challenged to take part in the spoils that is raving. If I'll be out on Saturday evening, I'll try and post a message and let you know. Till then... Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:36:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA02492; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:36:56 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA02487; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:36:53 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA30090 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:36:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id PAA11834; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:36:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:36:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose cc: sfraves Subject: Re: NRR: Poison Oak answer In-Reply-To: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21A9@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk could someone please forward me the calendar? * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:48:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA03896; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:48:18 -0700 Received: from xinet.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA03889; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:48:14 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora by xinet.COM via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id PAA11077; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:48:00 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199606131839_MC1-4F0-21AB@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:47:56 -0800 To: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com>, sfraves From: Tony Rotundo Subject: Re: Greetings SFraves - New Moon Info Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 6:31 PM -0400 6/13/96, Jason C. Lundy wrote: >Tom (a "new", and enthusiastic raver) might be persuaded to detour to a >"New Moon" if the >Tix aren't too much and we can get them on Fri-Sat afternoon. Hi. I'd say New Moon parties are free, but that wouldn't exactly be accurate. The New Moon crew puts so much love and energy into their parties, trying very hard to stand by their belief that nature and music can bring about love and positive energy, that you can hardly say they are free. It takes a lot of muscle and smiles to pull one off. But in terms of tickets and all that, unless I'm enormously wrong, there's no need to worry -- they aren't selling tickets to Saturday's party. It's free. (I'm sure donations accepted.) In terms of lending a hand, they can use that very much!!! I swear, the more you put into a party, even lugging a speaker, the more you get out of it. When you're happy as a raver in paradise, it's *so* nice to be able to turn to the person you lugged the speaker with and hug and look atthe happy crowd and say, "we helped make this happen!" New Moon number is: 415.267.3076 Maybe I'll see you guys there. Love, Tone P.S. Things to bring to this party: Flashlight! blankets/sleeping bags warm clothes food to share alter material drink maybe some gasoline (for the generator)? Fire wood From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:50:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA04090; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:50:05 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA04078; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:50:01 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA14684; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:48:32 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id PAA21445; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:45:49 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: sandoz@sfsu.edu Cc: rlunatic@ix.netcom.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Re: Pack a Bowl! Date: 13 Jun 1996 23:25:52 GMT Message-Id: <5242879.10308699@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Call 415.541.5019 for pac-bowl info.... ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 15:51:00 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA04214; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:51:00 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA04205; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:50:57 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA07039 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:49:35 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id PAA24029 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:50:31 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19304 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:50:29 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 15:51:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Re: Who's going to Monolith? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk OK, gang, Adam Guevara has become my hero! Consider me there :) Hope to see lots o' shiny happy people there. Hopefully I'll have an assortment of candy, as well as big Eric-hugs and lots of positive energy to share! Love, - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 16:59:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA10064; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:59:23 -0700 Received: from jeeves.usfca.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA10049; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:59:19 -0700 Received: from duckman.usfca.edu (duckman.usfca.edu [138.202.32.151]) by jeeves.usfca.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA11112 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:52:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 16:52:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199606132352.QAA11112@jeeves.usfca.edu> X-Sender: reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.3b4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu (Jake Reichert) Subject: Re: HIA Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Who ever recomended that Higher Intelligence Agency record "Colour >Form." Your taste is impeckable my man, simply impeckable. Check out >the other one called "Free Floater." Yeah! Colourform is one of my favorite electronic albums (right up there with Autechre, even) ever. Has anyone ever heard Reform, the mini-lp with mixes of songs off of Colourform done by other artists (Autechre and Aphex Twin, among others). BTW, there's a B-side to Love & Rocket's "Body & Soul" with a remixed version of it done by HIA that's probably more HIA than L&R (although Body & Soul is quite a good song on it's own). Jake, Who digs Love & Rockets LOTS Jake Reichert | I used to be indecisive/ reicja00@dons.ac.usfca.edu | But now I'm not so sure... | -The The -------------------------------------------------------------------- "LONELY IS AS LONELY DOES" B.C. Gilbert/G. Lewis ------------------------ The Happy Family A=====================================V Bulgarian Voices | Pixies | | | ____ | Bauhaus | Frazier Chorus | /| | /\ | | \ | Michael Brook | Spirea X | / | | / \ | | \ | The Breeders | Colourbox | / | | / \ | | | | Dead Can Dance | Dif Juz | /___| | /______\ | | | | Throwing Muses | The The | | | / \ | | / | Clan of Xymox | Rema-Rema | | | / \ | |___ / | Cocteau Twins | Liquorice A=====================================M Lisa Germano | M|A|R|R|S X Mal Deutschland | Dance Chapter | Insides | The Birthday Party A.R. Kane | Rowland S. Howard & Lydia Lunch | C.V.O | Air Miami Ultra Vivid Scene | Unrest | Pieter Nooten/Michael Brook | Swallow That Dog. | Psychotic Tanks | Lisa Gerrard | Last Dance | Lush Modern English | Budd/Fraser/Guthrie/Raymonde | This Mortal Coil The Wolfgang Press | Richenel | His Name Is Alive | Pale Saints The Glee Club --------------------------------- Colin Newman "LONELY IS AN EYESORE" From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 17:06:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA10782; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:06:14 -0700 Received: from alpha.xerox.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA10724; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:05:59 -0700 Received: from godzilla.ADOC.xerox.com ([13.242.128.10]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <15578(12)>; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:05:20 PDT Received: from beluga.adoc.xerox.com ([13.242.128.26]) by godzilla.ADOC.xerox.com with SMTP id <5201>; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:04:52 -0700 Received: from ccMail by beluga.adoc.xerox.com (SMTPLINK V2.11.01) id AA834711734; Thu, 13 Jun 96 17:26:36 PST Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:26:36 PDT From: Diane_Tabellija@adoc.xerox.com Message-Id: <9605138347.AA834711734@beluga.adoc.xerox.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com, dhchung@hyperreal.com Subject: Attn: Tranceheads Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Thought I'd pass this on, Daniel from Moontribe will be playing at Mantra this Sunday at Cats Bar & Grill, 683 Clementina Alley nr. 8th & Folsom. I know this is listed as a weekly in the sfraves calendar but thought I'd give y'all a shout about this. Also, I was wondering if any people are going to Oasia in SoCal for Saturday night. If anyone is interested in carpooling, I might consider going. E-mail me for more info or check out Goa Gil's web page (who's address I don't have w/me now but you can find it nested in an associate's web page: http://scitexdv.com/Users/todd/). See ya out there dancin' Diane From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 17:09:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA11078; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:09:36 -0700 Received: from moon.sirius.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA11071; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:09:33 -0700 Received: from erase99.sirius.com (ppp038-sm0.sirius.com [205.134.229.38]) by moon.sirius.com (8.6.12/8.6.9p) with SMTP id RAA11381 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:09:29 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960614001036.009fd280@140.174.229.14> X-Sender: erase99@140.174.229.14 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:10:36 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Paradyne 99 Subject: Re: Pack a Bowl! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >After the fights a week before last is it still going on? I don't think >so. Call b4 hand for info. It's am Ameba event. i thought it was mar's and tracy's gig... ? anyway, i went last week, so it is still on. i might show up tonight, i'll be wearing a shiny red shirt if i do come. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 17:45:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA14227; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:45:52 -0700 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA14175; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:45:40 -0700 From: Derek Chung Message-Id: <199606140045.RAA14175@taz.hyperreal.com> Subject: This Week's SFR Calendar! To: sfraves@hyperreal.com (SF Raves) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:45:39 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves-calendar@hyperreal.com (SFR Calendar) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 18553 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Friday, Orion has a huge lineup of local techno/trance, jungle and ambient DJs. For Saturday, Second Chakra and Monolith look solid. Unfortunately, it appears that Your Mama's Cafe in Oakland has closed its doors. THE SFR CALENDAR http://www.hyperreal.com/raves/sf/calendar/gencal.cgi _________________________________________________________________ Upcoming Parties in the San Francisco Bay Area Friday, June 14th - AstralScapes Inc. presents _Orion_ A Journey Through Sound Tyler, Wizard, Talizman, Jon Santos, Solar, Shoam, Candy Land Twinz, Myste, Minor Minor, Trent, Noel, UFO, Karizma, Thad, Hannibal Selecta, OM, Rig-A-Tony, OBSO, Astronaut (live), RE: (live), Consciousness Lab Ambient Sound Re:search (live). presale tix at Frequency-8, Getta Clue (Sac) and Garment Lounge (Oak) 415.273.1190 916.392.9105 Saturday, June 15th - _Magic Circle_ Sifu, Phonic, Mike P, Tony Fader. 10pm-, 18+, $7. 510.433.9770 Saturday, June 15th - Nexus presents _Second Chakra_ Dale Charles (Boston), Pete Moss (Boston), Jeno, Donald Glaude, DJ Quest, Carlos, Dreamer, Kwashi, Essence. 8pm-8am, . SF. 510.667.3492 415.337.4263 Saturday, June 15th - Frank Nitty and the Brotherhood presents _Indonesia_ Frank Nitty, DJ Ghost, E Flow (Sweden), Rick Preston, Kwashi, Essence, Dope Cat, J Mack. 415.560.5324 415.340.5607 408.235.9344 Saturday, June 15th - Groove Trip presents _Liquid Groove_ Simon, John Howard, Oscure, Karizma, Brad Vachal, Jimmy Zimms. Visuals by SquareOne, Nutrilight, Las Vegas Lasers. 415.522.9958 916.556.4684 Saturday, June 15th - Next School & MARS (F8) presents _Monolith _ Solar, Mystr-E, MARS, Henrik, Andre Lucero. limited tix available at Frequency-8 for $10 415.974.4391 415.541.5019 Friday, June 21st - Rain Dance presents _summer solstice tribal dance_ Jeno, Markie, Mark Farina, Tracy, Rob. presale tickets at Ameba 415.965.5045 510.889.2922 408.425.3316 Friday, June 21st - Blasthaus & Terminator presents Chemical Brothers live $15. the Trocadero, 520 4th St, SF. Friday, June 21st - Gateway Systems presents _Light_ Dance, Meditation, Drums, Games, Creativity, Food and Love Galen, Monty, Jon Williams, John Carel, Andre Lucero, Consciousness Lab Ambient Research. One Year Anniversary 2pm-9pm, All ages. 415.536.9453 Saturday, June 22nd - Full Circle Productions presents _Sankofa_ Mark Gage (Vapour Space), Rabbit in the Moon, DJ Monk, Vicious Vic, Wade Hampton, Terry Mullan, Justin, Ernie Munson, DJ Dan, Simon, Garth, Jeno. 415.675.9956 510.986.9089 Saturday, June 22nd - Funky Baby Productions presents _Soulstice_ Paul Guido, Utopia, Paul Q, Stonie, Sati. 9pm-dawn, $5. 210 W. 6th St, Chico. Sunday, June 23rd - Silent Records & 1002 Nights presents Loop Guru Loop Guru, Cheb i Sabbah, 23 degrees. Visuals by 1008 Gopis. 8pm-, 21+, $15. Sound Factory, 525 Harrison St, SF. 415.957.1320 Monday, June 24th - _Underworld, Orbital, SpaceTime Continuum live_ DJ Darren. the Fillmore, , SF. Tuesday, June 25th - _Crash Worship_ live tribal/industrial band $10. Trocadero, 520 4th St @ Bryant, SF. 415.995.4600 Wednesday, June 26th - Blasthaus presents Up n'Atom Laron, Felix the Dogge, guests. 111 Minna St, SF. 415.789.8044 Thursday, June 27th - _Move _ Markie, Josh, Tracy, Spun, Solar, Polywog. Visuals by Donovan. 415.437.5774 Friday, June 28th - One Track Mind presents _Turn Around_ Detroit, Chicago, Trax all night Sho, Jon Santos, Warren Parker, Paul Manley. 10pm- $5. 415.208.3418 Saturday, June 29th - _Tribal Funk_ Tony, Josh, Galen, guests. Saturday, June 29th - _Revival_ Corey, Serenity, Skemer, Simulacra, Jazz-E, Sifu, Honey B, Dave Rego, Shawn Steven, Synthesis, Allan, Fuman. $7 before midnight. 9pm-morning, $10. 510.287.5797 Thursday, July 4th - _Chateau de Boom_ fundraiser for San Mateo AIDS Services noon-8pm, $3. Hillsboro "classic spelling". 415.572.3250 Thursday, July 4th - _rhumboogie_ Rob Doten, Gavan, Gina. 9pm-2am, 21+. coco lounge, 139 8th St @ Minna, SF. Friday, July 12nd - Drip Drop Productions presents _Nafarius_ 415.436.0979 408.421.7189 Saturday, July 13rd - 6 in da Mornin Productions presents _Ground Zero_ Jim Hopkins, Simon, Ghost, Atommix, Josh, Liquid, Frank Nitty, Kimo, Essence, Kwashi, Spinner. Visuals by C.A.D., Trips R Us. 120,000 sq ft indoor/outdoor action 800.590.7032 415.709.7989 Saturday, July 13rd - _Pro-Soy_ Drenalin, Deaks, Tim McKnew, Cloud, special guest. SF. 408.457.7726 Saturday, July 13rd - blasthaus presents the acid funk ball Hardkiss, broun fellinis, Mark Farina, guests. 415.789.8044 Saturday, July 20th - _Cloud Factory 2-year anniversary_ 408.457.7726 Wednesday, August 28th - Burning Man 1996 includes Wicked Sound System. runs entire weekend, through September 2nd. All ages, $35. Black Rock Desert, Nevada. 415.985.7471 _________________________________________________________________ W E E K L I E S House/techno/acid jazz/ambient/etc reg'lar happenins Some of them may have ended - let me know when that happens... Thursday Lift - House, Funk w/DJs David Harness, Ruben Mancias, Jay-J, Black, guests. 12mid-5:30am, 21+, $5. 55 Natoma, SF. 415.267.5984 Velvet Shop - House, Techno. 21+, $5. Agenda Bass-ment, 399 S 1st @ San Salvador, SJ. 408.235.1556 _Azul_ - House, Soul w/DJs Alfie, James. 21+, Free. Casanova, 527 Valencia, SF. Full House - Acid Jazz, House w/DJs Finn, Matt Bernsen, Andrew Rawnsley, Bruno Ybarra, guests, live musicians. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. Miss Pearl's Jam House, Eddy & Larkin, SF. Pack-a-Bowl - "We'll be droppin the wax while you're droppin the balls" w/DJs Mars, Tracy, guests. 8:30pm-2am, $6. Park Bowl, Haight @ Stanyan, SF. 415.541.5019 .blitz - foxyboysfancygirlsfreshmademixes begins April 4th 21+. 278 11th St @ Folsom, SF. _Le Jazz Hot!_ - future sounds for jazz heads w/DJs Andrew Jervis, guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, $3. Nickies BBQ, 460 Haight, SF. 415.621.6508 _Real_ - house, techno. every first Thursday of the month 9pm-2am, 18+, $7. Pantages Theater, 1225 K St Mall, Sacramento. 916.565.9588 _Revolutionary Wax_ - coax your evolutionary ass w/DJs Consuelo Kevin, John John (Open Mind), James (Tweekin). 21+, Free. Dalva, 3121 16th St, SF. 415.252.7740 _Green_ - house, techno w/DJs guests weekly. 10pm-2am, 18+. the top of the Wharf Cafe, the end of the Santa Cruz Wharf, Santa Cruz. _Thirzdaze_ - bringing you the true frisco groove w/DJs DJ Dan, Donald Glaude, Essence, guests. 415.605.1915 [6.13 - Dan, Donald Glaude, Essence, Nam, Paucus, Afro Dave, Jin] Friday _ Sound Factory _- House w/DJs Pete Avila, David Harness, guets. 9:30pm-7am, 21+, $10. Sound Factory, 525 Harrison @ 1st, SF. 415.543.1300 _Soul'd Out_ - House w/DJs Julius Papp, Rick Preston, guests. free before 10:30 9pm-, 21+, $5. The Usual, 400 S.1st St., San Jose. _Nocturnal Transmission_ - House w/DJs David Harness, Tim Martinez, Saint John, guests. $5 before midnight. 11pm-5am, 21+, $10. 55 Natoma St., SF. 415.957.1730 _Go Fast_ - Techno. Energy Music...for Women by Women (boys can come too). 10pm-. 8th & Minna, SF. _Liquid Fridays_ - House w/DJs various DJs. 10pm-2am, 18+, Free. 2721 Broadway, Sacramento., Sacramento. 916.484.4285 the green door - "where circles meet squares" w/DJs andrew, thomas, caspar, paul, felix the dog, guests. 10pm-3am, 21+, $7. 880 Stevenson @ 10th, SF. _Nikita_ - house, techno w/DJs Jeno, Simon, Henrik. 10pm-7am, 21+, $10. 1015 Folsom St, SF. 415.267.0568 [6.14 - Westbam, Hardsequencer] [6.21 - CJ Mackintosh] [6.28 - Derrick May] _The Scene_ - 21+. the EndUp, 401 6th @ Harrison, SF. 415.393.9067 _Beats_ - house, breakbeat, trance w/DJs Carlos Campos, Karizma, weekly guests. 7042 Folsom Blvd between Howe and 65th, Sacramento. 415.273.1345 916.558.0850 _This Side Up_ - house, techno w/DJs guests. 21+. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. Saturday _Other Whirled_ - House, Techno w/DJs Warren, Nobel, Jason Cassady, Nikki Rivera, guests. saturday morning 6am-, 21+. 201 9th @ Howard, SF. _Sound Factory _- big club sounds 9:30pm-4am, 21+. Sound Factory, 525 Harrison @ 1st, SF. 415.543.1300 _Release _- Acid Jazz, Funk, Reggae, House w/DJs Jerry Ross, Josh, Mr. Sulu, Randy Wong. 21+. 1015 Folsom, , SF. 415.337.7457 55 - House, Euro w/DJs Jorge Martinez, Tim Martinez, guests. 21+. 55 Natoma St., SF. 415.267.1858 _Vanilla Fudge _- House w/DJs Corey Black, Sunshine, Moonbeam, Jason, Big Lee, Darren. occasional saturday nights. 10pm-2am, Free. Cafe Bastille, 55 Belden Alley, SF. 415.764.2903 Vertigo - Psycho, Techno, Disco, Funk w/DJs Ellen Ferrato, Dave Peterson, Lewis. 10pm-, 21+. the EndUp, 6th & Harrison, SF. 415.703.7172 _Liquid Vinyl_ - House w/DJs Jay-J, Suiki, John Howard, guests. 2am-6am, 21+, $8. DV8, 540 Howard, SF. 415.957.1730 phunkatech - Jungle w/DJs UFO, Noel, guests. 21+, $2. The Top, 424 Haight, SF. 415.995.4699 _Metro Jazz _- Acid Jazz w/DJs Ruben Mancias, Mauricio Avilas, Tom Thump, Franky, guests. 10pm-, 21+, $7. 111 Minna St, SF. 415.974.1719 Sunday _ Spundae _- House, Techno w/DJs Henrik, Carlos, Miquel, weekly guests. free b4 10:30p For Technotica, call 415.764.2922 10pm-5:30am, 21+, $5. 55 Natoma St., SF. 415.974.9389 [6.16 - Marusha (Germany), Hardsequencer, Jon Williams, Henrik, Taj] _Leopard Lounge_ - Acid Jazz, Funk & Live Bands. w/DJs Suiki, Jay-J, Anthony, Julius Papp, Mark Farina, guests. 2125 Lombard @ Fillmore, SF. 415.771.2583 _Pleasuredome_ - House w/DJs Neil Lewis, David Harness, Phil B, guests. 21+, $8. 177 Townsend, SF. 415.985.5256 Quench - House, Ambient w/DJs Rick Preston, Ryan Tapia, guests. Ambient-Space explorations by DJ Leath and guests in the front room. 21+. The Usual, 400 South First St., San Jose. 408.535.0330 [6.16 - Johnny Fiasco] [6.23 - Derrick Carter & Mark Farina on 20 Turntables! :)] subbass - jungle, drum'n'bass, trip hop w/DJs noel, abstract, jawbone. 10pm-2am, 21+, $3. 270 Brannan @ 2nd, SF. 415.905.8865 Strawberry Sundays - techno, house w/DJs Dutch, Jazz-E, Corey, Oscure, Jesse. $5 for under 21;. 6am-, 18+, $3. Bahia, 1600 Market St., SF. 415.635.9183 Mantra - A hypnotic trance-inducing affirmation. w/DJs Dutch, Surge, Theta Blip, Abstract, Noel, UFO, Thad, guests. 10pm-3am, 18+, $5. 683 Clementina Alley, SF. 415.331.1500x888 [6.16 - Daniel (Moontribe)] Monday Mushroom Jazz - acid jazz, trip hop w/DJs Mark Farina, Miquel, Julius Papp, guests. 9pm-3am, 21+, $5. 330 Ritch St, SF. 415.905.8811 _Noc Noc_ - techno/ambient/jungle w/DJs Mohsen. 21+, Free. 557 Haight St., SF. _Tongue n' Groove _- trip hop, jungle, acid jazz w/DJs tomas, seth, m.mark, guests. 10pm-4am, 21+, $5. Cat's Grill & Alley, 1190 Folsom @ 8th, SF. 415.431.3332 _rotation_ - jazz, hiphop, soul, acid jazz, funk w/DJs racer x, yamu, stef, rasta cue-tip, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+. up & down club, 1151 Folsom St, SF. _21st sensory _- abstractbeatz-hiphop-dub-drum n'bass-electro w/DJs Tomas, Abstract, guests. 21+. the Top, 424 Haight, SF. 415.974.4358 _Movement_ - trance, breakbeat, jungle w/DJs Julio, Kimo. 10pm-2am, 18+, $3. Bahia Cabana, 1600 Market @ Franklin, SF. 415.263.5797 Tuesday Butterfly - Hip Hop, Acid Jazz, House, Funk w/DJs Charlotte, Dani, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, $2. Casanova, 527 Valencia, SF. Breathe Deep - House w/DJs Jay-J, Ruben, Miquel, guests. 10pm-4am, 21+, $5. 1015 Folsom., SF. 415.998.9515 _Begin..._ - house, trip hop, trance w/DJs Darrel, Cisco, Radley, Ollie, Seanee, Xpress, Grey, Anna. 9pm-2am, All ages. The Inn of the Beginning, 8201 Old Redwood Highway, Cotati, Cotati. 707.524.4443 _Succotash!_ - tasty jazz - funk - beats - space w/DJs tom thump, rasta q-tip. 21+, Free. up & down club, 1151 folsom st., SF. _supper_ - funk, acid jazz w/DJs Caspar, guests. 21+, Free. Julie's Supper Club, 1123 Folsom @ 7th, SF. 415.861.0707 _Light-n-Up Lounge_ - house w/DJs Preston, guests. 21+. 111 Minna St, SF. _L-Tryptophan_ - ambient, techno w/DJs guest DJs weekly. 21+, Free. 1624 California @ Van Ness, SF. _Lost in Space_ - house, hip-hop w/DJs Pause, Dark Money, Winnie B, Eric Lacy. 21+, Free. Cafe Mars, 798 Brannan @ 7th, SF. _Eclectic_ - house, jungle, drum & bass w/DJs Yamu, Siege, Franko, Foster, guests. Fresh fruit & condoms to all 9pm-2am, 21+. Paradise Bar & Grill, 5356 College Ave, Oakland. _The Deep_ - house, techno. 9pm-2am, . Palookaville, 1133 Pacific Ave, Santa Cruz?. 408.425.3316 Wednesday _ Come/Unity _- House, Techno, Ambient w/DJs Simon, Jeno, Garth. first Wednesday of the month. 10pm-4am, 21+, $7. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.241.8815 _Boost_ - old school uplifting house w/DJs Jamie J, Hector the ejector. 21+. the EndUp, 6th & Harrison, SF. 415.703.7105 _Roots_ - House, Dub, Reggae w/DJs Garth, Jeno, guests. Buna & guests in the dub reggae room 10pm-4am, 21+, $6. 1015 Folsom, SF. 415.512.5713 _cosmic lounge _- space jazz, galactic grooves, jungle w/DJs Caspar, Paul, Seth, guests. 10pm-2am, 21+, Free. cafe mars, 798 Brannan @ 7th, SF. _Reunion_ - Danny, Naz Cafe, guests. 9pm-, 21+, Free. The Fulton Bar, 1243 Fulton Mall, Fresno. 209.488.5332 _Thirsty_ - tasty house tunes and even better company w/DJs Jellybear, Jay-J, top notch guests. 9pm-2am, 21+, Free. The Top, 424 Haight St, SF. _The Lounge_ - 9pm-3am, 21+. 1401 Arden Way, Sacramento. 916.922.8041x4240 _Bubbles_ - deep funky techno house music w/DJs Don Crisp (Crisp Records), guests. 9pm-2am, 21+. Babylon, 2260 Van Ness @ Vallejo, SF. 415.567.1222 _Wish_ - techno, house w/DJs guests weekly. Lighting by EyeTribe 18+. Bahia, 1600 Market St, SF. 415.436.0663 _Belief_ - house w/DJs Julius Papp, Harry Who?, Rick Preston. begins 5.22. 10pm-, 21+. Agenda basement, 1st & San Salvador, San Jose. _Jackin' the Box_ - weeklytechnohousejammyinnadetroitchicagostylee w/DJs jon santos, samuel, guests. 10pm-2am, 18+, $5. 375 1st St @ Harrison, SF. [6.19 - dial8] Boogie Bowl - house, techno w/DJs John Howard, Tracy, Dave, Virg, guests. admission includes bowling and pool. 10pmm-3am, $8. Country Club Bowl, 88 Vivian Way @ E.Francisco, San Rafael. 415.456.6440 _________________________________________________________________ Info Lines * Be-At Info Line - 415-626-4087. Usually has 5-10 listings, updated daily. * Clubline - 415.979.8686 * Fatline - 415.207.3668 * Frequency 8 Trance/Techno infoline - 415.541.5019 * the Global Party Network Buzzline - 415.568.1338 * The Groove Line - (415) 331.1500 ext.4788 * Housewares Rave Line - 415.281.0125 _________________________________________________________________ Radio/TV Shows * Sunday night 11pm-2am - "The Dreaming/Innermind Show" w/DJ Miracle & Mr. Monchichi. House, Jungle, Trip-Hop, Ambient, Dub, Break-Beats & guest DJs. KSCU 103.3 (Santa Clara) * Monday afternoon 12:30-3:00 pm - DJ Jerecho presents the best of the urban polyrhythmic experience jungle, acid jazz, techno, electro, breakbeat KDVS, 90.3 FM (Davis) * Wednesday night/Thursday morning 3am-6am - "Aural Fixation" experimental sounds of ambient and trip hop with a splash of hi nrg, from trance to jungle. KZSC 88.1 fm (Santa Cruz) * Thursdays 9:30pm-midnight - "Aurora Borealis" Beats and atmospherics w/DJ Seth. KALX 90.7 (Berkeley) * Fridays 9pm-midnight - Andrew from Groove Merchant spins on KUSF 90.3 (SF) * Friday night/Saturday morning - midnight-noon. House/techno mix with Johnny K, Ozone & guests - KCSS 91.9 Central Valley (Turlock) * Friday night/Saturday morning - "Just Desserts" w/Mr.Goodwrench - 10pm-2am Jungle, Detroit, Techno, Acid House, whacked-out Dub, and noise KFJC 89.7 - Los Altos Hills * Friday night - nocturnal transmissions - featuring house DJs from SF and around the world. mid-2am, 107.7 FM (SF) * Friday night - Your Mama's House w/Pete Avila - 3am-5am, 106.1 KMEL. * Friday night - Moondance. Ambient; 3am-7:30am, KUSF 90.3 SF. * Friday night/Saturday morning - the Uncle Noah TV Show - the best in Techno and House music. 3-5am, KDVS 90.3fm (Davis) * Saturday afternoon - "Bus Stop" - music and talk w/guest DJs from SF and beyond. 2pm-3pm. KUSF 90.3 SF. * Saturday night 11pm - Flux Television, Viacom Channel 53 - Ambient, acid jazz and house music videos & interviews. (415) 281-3377. flux@flux.net * Saturday night 9pm-mid - "An Epiphany of Sound" hosted by J.C. and Monkeywrench KZSU 90.1 (Stanford) _________________________________________________________________ For a _search_ interface to the calendar, see the Late Train club section. _________________________________________________________________ Administrative Notes If anyone has info on any other events, send it to me! I can't possibly hope to get all the info every week. This info gets sent via email every Thursday. To subscribe or unsubscribe to the calendar mailing list, send e-mail to majordomo@hyperreal.com with either the line subscribe sfraves-calendar or unsubscribe sfraves-calendar There is also an sfraves discussion mailing list for issues related to clubs, parties, house and techno music, etc. To subscribe, send e-mail to majordomo@hyperreal.com with the line subscribe sfraves in the body of the message. Derek Chung - dhchung@hyperreal.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 17:54:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA15045; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:54:38 -0700 Received: from emout13.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA15035; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 17:54:33 -0700 From: Czefir@aol.com Received: by emout13.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA14114 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:59 -0400 Message-ID: <960613205358_555845452@emout13.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: look for me Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello everybody!!! It looks like I might be stopping by Pack-a Bowl tonight. This will be my first time and I'm kinda excited. I'll be wearing dragon tights and yellow chopsticks in my hair. That's enough of a description because they do stand out. See ya there. Megan Czefir From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 18:09:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA16455; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:09:48 -0700 Received: from mh1.well.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA16448; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:09:45 -0700 Received: from [153.36.85.117] (Cust53.Max6.Santa-Clara.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.36.85.117]) by mh1.well.com (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id SAA20176 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606140109.SAA20176@mh1.well.com> X-Sender: crunch@mail.well.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:11:32 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: crunch@well.com (John Draper) Subject: Phone number has changed Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk My old phone is now disconnected with no immediate referral. Instead, I got a pager, so for those SFRafers that know me, please note my new phone number. 415-256-7685 - Then punch in your phone number and I'll call you back. Tommorrow I'll have voice mail on: 415-460-9190 with paging options. Crunchman From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 18:42:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA18846; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:42:36 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA18839; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:42:33 -0700 Received: from v-site by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id SAA19168; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:41:51 -0700 Message-ID: <31C0C34D.4712@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:41:33 -0700 From: ameba Organization: ameba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Rice CC: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Joe Rice wrote: > > At 10:44 AM -0700 6/13/96, SteveOSac@aol.com wrote: > >Oh my, Scott Hardkiss was at The Lounge (Sacto) last night and played a > >tripped out spacey version of Rocket Man by Elton John, you know ("...And I'm > >gonna be Hiiiiigheyii... as a kite by then") it was very nice. Anyway, my > >"thinks all, knows all" friend tells me I better enjoy it because I'll never > >hear it again. I guess Scot made that record and is getting sued for it, > >worst of all, it never got to the stores. Can anyone confirm this, I would > >give my left arm and my mother to get a copy. > >I think it's gonna be a long long time, > >Steveo > > Dunno if it was "Rocket Man" but there was a Hardkiss Elton John remix out > commercially last year and I saw it all over the place. The only recent > Hardkiss lawsuits I've heard of are rumors regarding the Robbie Hardkiss > mix CD. > > Joe > > (:Joe Rice:____________:joe@psychoactive.com:____________:ambient@netcom.com:)> (:"Oh, the turntables are his instruments!" :) > (:"But I can't tell what sound that record is making!" :) > (:"I know! He puts them on and off and you never know! I've never seen :) > (: anything like it!" :) > I have a random promo copy of a cassette entitled "hkiss remix showreel2 contains "Benny & the jets' remix by Gavin and "believe By eltn remix by scott robbie and gavin hmmmmmmmmm more obscurities please!!!!!! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 18:46:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA19155; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:46:56 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA19144; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:46:53 -0700 Received: from v-site by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id SAA19173; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:46:13 -0700 Message-ID: <31C0C453.2C51@netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 18:45:55 -0700 From: ameba Organization: ameba X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG CC: Marisa Giancarla , kcroy , sfraves Subject: Re: Hardcore References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TRISTAN BERNARD BLAUG wrote: > > Check-out any tape from the Universe parties that happened in England > about three years ago. Simply blinding techno. Tapes were on sale at > Ameba but I don't know if they have any left (probably). > > On Tue, 11 Jun 1996, Marisa Giancarla wrote: > > > > > > > > > How come Hardcore is so hard to find around here? Doesn't anybody else > > > > suffer from urban angst and feel the need to freak out at 200bpm? > > > > I know the feeling. I really only get into techno when it has a 4/4 > > beat and is at least 180bpm, with lots of sampled screams thrown in a big > > plus. Since I moved to the bay area I have pretty much given up on hearing > > this kind of stuff "live", and I am making do importing gabber from germany > > & rotterdam. The LA label Cleopatra (and their sub label Hypnotic) do put out > > a few moderately hardcore compilation albums, "Terrortrance" and "Trance Hardcore" > > being two of my favorites. > > > > Marisa > > > >we have 2 judge jules "universe tapes " left but we have many other very hard techno tapes as well take it easy Mark Ameba From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 19:52:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA23731; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:52:07 -0700 Received: from netcom19.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA23726; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:52:03 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom19.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id TAA06776; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:52:01 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606140252.TAA06776@netcom19.netcom.com> Subject: Palookaville Club "Raves" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 19:52:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 688 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] There's a weekly newsprint tabloid in the South Bay called METRO. In this week's issue is an advert for the Palookaville nightclub. The advert lists two events with the word "Rave" in the title: Fri. , June 14th: Beyond Race "Live Rave" 9PM All Ages * Exotic Dance Party * Tribal Gypsy Dance Funk * Snake Goddesses * Belly Dancing BRING DRUMS and - Tues. , June 18th: The DEEP , Palookaville's Rave 9:30PM All Ages So, does anyone out there in SFRaves land know anything about these? How about Palookaville in general ( I've never been there ) ? Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 20:27:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA26225; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:27:33 -0700 Received: from kiwi by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA26215; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:27:30 -0700 Received: from inanna [204.162.160.70] by kiwi with smtp (Exim 0.51 #1) id E0uUPWY-0002wy-00; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: <31C0DBD9.1CFE@slip.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:26:17 -0700 From: "Patrick R. Hancox" Organization: The Loft Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFRaves Subject: Really obscure request... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk For some time now I have been trying to locate a CD/Tape of something that I heard on the radio. The track was a techno remix of a classical work by the german composer Carl Orff (1895-19xx?), 'Carmina Burana'. You might remember the original music from the movie 'Excalabur'. I didn't learn who did the remix or what lable it was on. Has anyone seen or heard of this? Patrick From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 20:39:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA27050; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:39:15 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA27041; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:39:12 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uUPj2-0001K1C; Thu, 13 Jun 96 20:39 PDT Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:39:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: "Patrick R. Hancox" cc: SFRaves Subject: Re: Really obscure request... In-Reply-To: <31C0DBD9.1CFE@slip.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Patrick R. Hancox wrote: > For some time now I have been trying to locate a CD/Tape of something > that I heard on the radio. The track was a techno remix of a classical > work by the german composer Carl Orff (1895-19xx?), 'Carmina Burana'. > You might remember the original music from the movie 'Excalabur'. I > didn't learn who did the remix or what lable it was on. Has anyone seen > or heard of this? > > Patrick WOW! that's a good oldskool track :) actually, i'd be interested to find this out too, as that piece brings back memories of my first techno expriences ....... k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 20:53:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA27975; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:42 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA27970; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:39 -0700 From: cloud@cats.ucsc.edu Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id UAA28273; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:35 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id UAA02633; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:53:32 -0700 Message-Id: <199606140353.UAA02633@ese.UCSC.EDU> To: patrickh@slip.net, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Really obscure request... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk You asked: >For some time now I have been trying to locate a CD/Tape of something that I heard on the radio. The track was a techno remix of a classical work by the german composer Carl Orff (1895-19xx?), 'Carmina Burana'. You might remember the original music from the movie 'Excalabur'. I didn't learn who did the remix or what lable it was on. Has anyone seen or heard of this? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- My answer: You're in luck! The track you heard is called "O Fortuna" by Apotheosis. It came out on Radikal Records around '92. I've got it on vinyl, but have also heard it on various techno comps. Happy Hunting! peas, sAbiN! PS. They've also released another track called "O Brumbatta", but it sounds really similar. 8) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 20:57:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA28205; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:57:56 -0700 Received: from mouse by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA28200; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:57:53 -0700 Received: from inanna [204.162.160.70] by mouse with smtp (Exim 0.52 #2) id E0uUQ0C-0003cZ-00; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:56:52 -0700 Message-ID: <31C0E30A.1D52@slip.net> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 20:56:58 -0700 From: "Patrick R. Hancox" Organization: The Loft Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0b4Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: cloud@cats.ucsc.edu CC: SFRaves Subject: Re: Really obscure request... References: <199606140353.UAA02633@ese.UCSC.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk cloud@cats.ucsc.edu wrote: > > You asked: > >For some time now I have been trying to locate a CD/Tape of something > that I heard on the radio. The track was a techno remix of a classical > work by the german composer Carl Orff (1895-19xx?), 'Carmina Burana'. > You might remember the original music from the movie 'Excalabur'. I > didn't learn who did the remix or what lable it was on. Has anyone seen > or heard of this? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > My answer: > You're in luck! The track you heard is called "O Fortuna" by > Apotheosis. It came out on Radikal Records around '92. I've got it on > vinyl, but have also heard it on various techno comps. Happy Hunting! > peas, > sAbiN! > PS. They've also released another track called "O Brumbatta", but it sounds > really similar. > 8) Less the 1/2 hour for an answer. God I love the net! Thanx all From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 21:46:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA01350; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:46:29 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA01319; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:46:24 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA23271 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post-awful.apple.com (post-awful.apple.com [17.255.0.17]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id VAA25694; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:45:23 -0700 Received: from [17.202.40.154] (hahnbr.apple.com [17.202.40.154]) by post-awful.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA33014; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 21:46:19 -0700 Message-Id: <199606140446.VAA33014@post-awful.apple.com> Subject: Re: Palookaville Club "Raves" Date: Thu, 13 Jun 96 21:42:37 -0800 From: Anarch To: cc: "Larry Ching" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Larry Ching, larryc@netcom.com wrote: > There's a weekly newsprint tabloid in the South Bay called METRO. In this >week's issue is an advert for the Palookaville nightclub. The advert lists >two events with the word "Rave" in the title: > >Fri. , June 14th: Beyond Race "Live Rave" ... >Tues. , June 18th: The DEEP , Palookaville's Rave > So, does anyone out there in SFRaves land know anything about these? How >about Palookaville in general ( I've never been there ) ? "Live Rave" is not a very good description of Beyond Race, but they're a great band, one of my favorites in the bay area. Fast funky noise you can definitely get down to. Those at the last Burning Man may have heard them...they weren't a scheduled attraction but they were out there and just set up each night and played for a while out around the eastern perimeter. A drummer, two guys trading off bass, guitar, and a Moog-y old keyboard, plus didgeridoo and tabla. I'll be there Fri. "The Deep" is Rain Dance's weekly gig that's been going on for a few months. It used to be mostly at the Top of the Wharf (where SCJP is now out most Thursday nights), now it's mostly at Palookaville (bigger). It's a good party, with a mix of Santa Cruz and greater Bay Area DJs...there was an awesome showing by Dubtribe last week. Palookaville is a nice spot: clean, spacious, nice floor, right downtown. They get in a wide variety of acts, punk, funk, blues, rock, folk, all kinds of stuff. anarch@scruznet.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 23:21:24 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA08543; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:21:24 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA08532; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:21:20 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca6-16.ix.netcom.com [199.182.129.208]) by dfw-ix2.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id XAA27121 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:20:41 -0700 Message-ID: <31C1053C.4977@ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:22:52 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: something to ponder... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk to all you GROOVY, funky, +NRG, party people- not rave related but inspiring nonetheless: " Take away love... and our earth is a tomb." - Robert Browning [peace] -atoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Thu Jun 13 23:44:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA09781; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:44:55 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA09776; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:44:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id XAA45178 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:44:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 23:44:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: friday!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ok folks. Sarah (slaymaker) and Shawna and I are starting the ball rolling for some crazy dancing tomorrow night (friday).... the only question is where (the drive to sacto is unappealing)! Has anyone checked out the 'go fast' weekly on minna st.? It's against my better judgement to hit the overly-clubby Nikita when I don't recognize the dj, but.... (and there's not much else out there in SF on friday!!) If you have ideas, or just want to join us ...... lemme know. 8-) Paul 8-P otherwise, see y'all at new moon... From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 00:13:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA13665; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:13:15 -0700 Received: from sutro.SFSU.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id AAA13660; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:13:12 -0700 Received: by sutro.SFSU.EDU (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/NeXT-2.0) id AA01965; Fri, 14 Jun 96 00:04:02 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 00:03:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Susie Kameny To: sfraves@hyperreal.com, cc@cyborganic.com Subject: room for rent Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yes we have a room for rent at 9th ave posse.... It is a small room with a big closet and window for $312 plus utilities/month. The house has a washer/dryer/dishwasher, working fire place, big backyard, deck, roof access, and a working fireplace in the groovey living room. The house is raver and geek friendly (but no smoking inside the house). It is availabe July 1, 1996. for more info write susie@sfsu.edu or call 415 566 3268 susie (: From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 01:11:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA17372; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:11:44 -0700 Received: from netcom18.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA17367; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:11:41 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora (jsl@localhost.netcom.com [127.0.0.1]) by netcom18.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id BAA21707; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:11:34 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:11:34 -0700 X-Sender: jsl@localhost Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: SteveOSac@aol.com From: jsl@netcom.com (John S. Lee) Subject: Re: S. Hardkiss/Rocket Man (Elton John) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Oh my, Scott Hardkiss was at The Lounge (Sacto) last night and played a >tripped out spacey version of Rocket Man by Elton John, you know ("...And I'm >gonna be Hiiiiigheyii... as a kite by then") it was very nice. Anyway, my >"thinks all, knows all" friend tells me I better enjoy it because I'll never >hear it again. I guess Scot made that record and is getting sued for it, >worst of all, it never got to the stores. Can anyone confirm this, I would >give my left arm and my mother to get a copy. >I think it's gonna be a long long time, >Steveo I talked to Scott about that track a while ago. Anyway from my understanding, they were contaracted to do it be E. John. He didn't like the mix or something to that effect (or mgmt. didn't like it), and wanted the product shelved. The Hardkiss boys thought that it would be a good track to put out however, and so it goes. It is a very, very, very rare track indeed. I could probably scoop one, but the shit is so high profile that I think It would be invitiing danger to Hardkiss to let anyone have or spin that track but themselves. I was not in the loop on this, and the story was told to me a while back, so I might have a faulty memory on this one. When I see Scott again, I'll ask him what the deal was and report if the story is any different. Out, John From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 01:19:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id BAA17796; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:35 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA17790; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:33 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA11064 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:27 -0700 Received: from kcroy.vip.best.com (kcroy.vip.best.com [206.86.4.246]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id BAA21064 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:16 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 01:19:16 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: kcroy@best.com (kcroy) Subject: Re: Really obscure request... Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >For some time now I have been trying to locate a CD/Tape of something >that I heard on the radio. The track was a techno remix of a classical >work by the german composer Carl Orff (1895-19xx?), 'Carmina Burana'. >You might remember the original music from the movie 'Excalabur'. I >didn't learn who did the remix or what lable it was on. Has anyone seen >or heard of this? > >Patrick Ive got a copy on tape somewhere...ill try and find it. Ive got a friend I can ask - hes got an original copy (he is in amsterdam, so i couldnt get you teh song, but could get you the artist). If i understand correctly whomever remixed it got into copyrights and wrongs and could no longer sell it. (incidentally, the track is the beginning and ending of Carmina -'O Fortuna' They like to use it (hollywood) for pagan ritual scenes (it was in 'young sherlock holmes' too). Actually its about this guys quest to get this cute virgin into bed. take care kcroy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 03:09:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id DAA02750; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 03:09:18 -0700 Received: from arl-img-6.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA02740; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 03:09:15 -0700 Received: by arl-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id GAA12058; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:08:42 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 06:06:59 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: New Moons To: Tony Rotundo Cc: sfraves Message-ID: <199606140608_MC1-4FF-8749@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk An interesting subject, I should have asked you personally about any "new moons". Considering your past experience on the topic. Seriously, I had no idea it was a Goat Rock party along the lines of last year's. Pancakes and fruit anyone? (pancakes in the lot, or delivered like last year if your good little ravers) An enchanted place, truely. I hauled six people from Sacramento out in the van beast...can anyone say 6000 rpm redline... By the way, as soon as I got the info, Tom was raver putty in my hands...."So it's a weekend huh?"...I didn't think it would be so easy...His first party was only months ago... For any SFravers who care to grace us with your presence...I'm the longhaired bloke...or one of the few attending as such. Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 08:15:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA27684; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:15:33 -0700 Received: from hpbio1.Biologie.HU-Berlin.de by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA27665; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:15:16 -0700 Received: by hpbio1.Biologie.HU-Berlin.de (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA18510; Fri, 14 Jun 96 17:20:11 +0200 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:20:11 +0200 (MESZ) From: Ulrike Laitko Subject: Re: friday!! To: Paul Abramson Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Paul Abramson wrote: > Has anyone checked out the 'go fast' weekly on minna st.? It's against my > better judgement to hit the overly-clubby Nikita when I don't recognize > the dj, but.... (and there's not much else out there in SF on friday!!) ha! westbam is considered (well, by some..) to be one of the most creative german djs, so it should actually be worth checking him out. *i* would go, if i could, only there's a fierce number of miles between me and 1015. anyway, have the most elaborate fun, you people, whatever you might end up doing. ulrike From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 08:17:38 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA27890; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:17:38 -0700 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA27884; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:17:36 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA29698 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:17:24 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:17:24 -0400 Message-ID: <960614111724_556234969@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: First tape!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yesterday I was so inspired by a friend I went home and at midnight made a tape....it came out great so I thought, well mine as well put it out there seeing as how I want to spin at parties and I don't have a tape out....well now I do. 90 minutes of house... My true love is hard acid house, but this tape is strictly house. If you want one e-mail me, they are free....just send me a blank tape and return envelope or I could give it to you at a party!:) It has: Annie Lennox-Whiter shade of pale coco steel+ lovebomb-feel it Kym Mazelle-was that all it was da juice-hear the angels m people- open up your heart everything but the girl-missing Annie Lennox-little bird the Boss-congo Hardrive-deep inside Masters at work- Cant get no sleep 95 mix ANd more!!!!!! Free folks.....e-mail me Jonathan 2nd Chakra is the place to be! Saturday From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 08:35:52 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id IAA29382; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:35:52 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id IAA29361; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:35:48 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uUauX-0001OiC; Fri, 14 Jun 96 08:35 PDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 08:35:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: nw-raves@hyperreal.com cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: HOORAY FOR FRIDAYS! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk man, after this week i REALLY need the weekend :) Quick update on my CD woes - my roomie has begun giving me money to pay off the $500 or so that the cds are worth. He and his friends have been trying to find the guy who took em but needless to say he's done a VERY quick fade. I thought of calling the cops and insurance co. and everything but i don't want to bug insurance for only cds ... i'd rather wait until i come home and find my musical equipment gone for something like that :) any vancouver groovers NOT going to future soul (waaah!!)? let's get together and go play on the beach or something this weekend .... or we could take over Science World! This workday cannot end soon enough for me! k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 09:18:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA03777; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:18:56 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA03769; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:18:53 -0700 Received: from am.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id JAA11713; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:18:43 -0700 Received: by am.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id JAA01082; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:18:42 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:18:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "-=]madame mercury[=-" Subject: Re: Palookaville Club "Raves" To: Larry Ching cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606140252.TAA06776@netcom19.netcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Palookaville raves = hippy ravers...if you like them then you're in luck. Personally I would never go, no matter how bored I got @ UCSC (But that doesn't matter now because I'm back in Oakland and SF is right across the bridge. Summer is here!) -mhg _-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_=* * \ | | \ | * * |\/ | _` | _` | _` | ` \ -_) |\/ | -_) _| _| | | _| | | * *_| _|\__,_|\__,_|\__,_|_|_|_|\___| _| _|\___|_| \__|\_,_|_| \_, | * * mhg@cats.ucsc.edu ___/ * * ____ __ ======================================== * \===\=========|__|=# == _===___===========__ =The Recording== * <========^==='======> _||_ ==| |=/ (_)__==__=__/ /==Media of the=== * _/_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_\_^__||||_ ==| |/ / / _ \/ // / /===Gods=========== * | TECHNICS 1200 | ==|___/_/_//_/\_, /_/=================== * | | =============/___/=======KEEP IT ALIVE!= * +---/||\----------------/||\---+ ======================================== * ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ * *_-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-__-=*=-_-=*=-_= From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 09:19:45 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA03844; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:19:45 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA03836; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:19:42 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA11039 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:17:56 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id JAA11829 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:16:01 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: FRIDAY... Date: 14 Jun 1996 16:44:40 GMT Message-Id: <192413.14061663@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello and happy Friday!!! So, what the hell's going on tonite??? "Dance with me..." Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 09:21:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA04050; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:21:57 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA04043; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:21:54 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA17615 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:21:53 -0700 Received: from kcroy.vip.best.com (kcroy.vip.best.com [206.86.4.246]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA02878 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:21:38 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:21:38 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: kcroy@best.com (kcroy) Subject: Re: HOORAY FOR FRIDAYS! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >man, after this week i REALLY need the weekend :) > >Quick update on my CD woes - my roomie has begun giving me money to pay >off the $500 or so that the cds are worth. He and his friends have been >trying to find the guy who took em but needless to say he's done a VERY >quick fade. I thought of calling the cops and insurance co. and >everything but i don't want to bug insurance for only cds ... i'd rather >wait until i come home and find my musical equipment gone for something >like that :) you should bug the insurance people if they are covered. we had someone walk into our office and walk off with a bag of CD's and had no problem getting them replaced. so , i duuno. might be cooler than having your roomie fork out the $$$ (for both of you) take care kcRoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 09:25:54 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA04660; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:25:54 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA04655; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:25:51 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for id JAA10463; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:23:26 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA26780 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:19:09 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960614162909.006a46e8@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:29:09 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Ciaran Subject: Rave scene 90's Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Arthur Asks: > So I wonder: who in the Rave scene of the 90s will be the Hendrix, the > Lennon, the Leary of the 2020s? Some comments about the rave scene vs. the 60's scene : To me, the rave acene as it is happening now embodies many of the ideals that we associate with the so-called 1960's hippie scene : Love , music, drugs, eastern associations (see : Goa Trance) Flower children ( check out the some of the rave fasions), spirituality, shamanism and meditation. I like the music of Hendrix and the musings of O'Leary but feel that techno music is the metaphor to embrace as we face a new millenium. More people should live for the present instead of dwelling in the past. Finally, as for the question of who is the rave scene's Tim O'Leary ? I would have to say that this generation already has a psychedelic spokesperson in the form of one Terence McKenna who has written on and lectures on the subject of ethno-botany, shaminism, psychedelics and hallucinogens. Tim O'Leary : thank you for showing the way. KironO From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 09:32:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA05658; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:32:44 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA05651; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:32:40 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id JAA07138; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:32:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606141632.JAA07138@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Rick Riffle From: Rick Riffle Subject: Re: HOORAY FOR FRIDAYS! Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >At 08:35 AM 6/14/96 -0700, you wrote: >>man, after this week i REALLY need the weekend :) >>This workday cannot end soon enough for me! I second that statement. Rick From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 09:38:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA06372; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:38:28 -0700 Received: from netcom11.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA06365; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:38:25 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom11.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA19769; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:38:23 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606141638.JAA19769@netcom11.netcom.com> Subject: Me This Weekend To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 09:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: MaryP76944@aol.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 986 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] Looks like a full weekend for me! Saturday is the Tibet Freedom Concert (Day 1) - I'm especially interested in seeing folk/rock/blues performer Richie Havens , trip hop/"alternative" artists Cibo Matto, trumpet player Hugh Masekela , A Tribe Called Quest, and the Beastie Boys! Then , after baking for the afternoon at the Polo Fields, off up north to the New Moon celebration ( 415-267-3076 ). It's at a spot that I've never been to before , but other folks have been to it and like it alot. Sunday - drive back down south to my in-laws place in San Carlos for a shower, a nap, and a Father-in-law's Day get-together. THEN, if I have enough time and energy, down to San Jose for the free party in Hellyer Park (Yerba Buena Site) (408-236-3732) , which goes from noon until "dusk". Then - go home and collapse! ( Some Sunday evening I'll get to MANTRA in SF . "Psychedlic trance" and Jungle/drum-n-bass at the same event sounds too good to miss! ). From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 10:05:43 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA08808; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:05:43 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA08797; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:05:38 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA27314 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:03:56 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA03305; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:05:13 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA24214; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:05:11 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 10:05:40 -0700 To: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Re: Palookaville Club "Raves" Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Palookaville is one of the newest venues for shows in Santa Cruz. It's considered ultra-hip, and books some of the best live music acts. Probably giving The Catalyst a good run for it's money, if it's still open... - E From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 11:40:42 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA17108; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:40:42 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA17101; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:40:39 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for id LAA17087; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:38:13 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA02804 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:33:58 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960614184359.006bea20@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:43:59 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Ciaran Subject: cd mixer info. Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk All of my music is on cd and i would like to play the occasional party. Does anyone out there have cd decks and a mixer for sale, or know of where i can pick up such equipment in the San Francisco/Berkeley area ? And are there any experienced cd Dj's out there who could give objective advice regarding this form of DJ media. Prices, phone numbers, contacts, advice appreciated. Thanks. KironO From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 11:57:03 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA18927; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:57:03 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA18913; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:57:00 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id LAA14075; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:56:54 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 11:56:53 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Orion tonight Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk If you want to go to a REALLY good party this weekend, check out Orion here in Sacramento. Lots of good hard trance, techno, jungle, and drum n' bass DJs will be there, and it's a phat virgin warehouse location in downtown Sacramento. I know this might seem like a long drive, but it's really only about 1 1/2 hours or so from just about everywhere, and this party will be worth the drive. If you're tired of all the parties filled with gangstas and hoochies and the same 5 boooring DJs who are all really good but burned out, come check it out. As of last night around 6 there were over 300 presale tix sold at the Sac location alone, so there's going to be a ton of great people there. Hope to see you all out tonight! John From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 12:04:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA20135; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:04:29 -0700 Received: from dub-img-6.compuserve.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA20128; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:04:26 -0700 Received: by dub-img-6.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA14886; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:03:53 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:03:33 -0400 From: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: New Moons To: sfraves Message-ID: <199606141503_MC1-4C7-892D@compuserve.com> Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk TO: Eric P. Peterson, INTERNET:epaul@Synopsys.COM Re: Re: New Moons Good day Eric, >> Cool, a fellow longhair! There aren't many of us in this scene, so let's stick together :) >> (How long is long?) >> Peace, >> - E My hair is about 6-8 inches past my shoulders, brown, and I'll probably be wearing a Pink Floyd t-shirt; maybe my red flannel when it gets colder. If it's truley cold, a blue, stay-puff, marshmallow jacket. If you're still consious in the morning, I'll be cookin' up pancakes and fresh ground frech roast coffee. See ya there SFraves! Gotta run....I'm laggin' Take Care, Jason From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 12:14:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA21016; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:14:18 -0700 Received: from dfw.dfw.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA21000; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:14:14 -0700 Received: by dfw.dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19614; Fri, 14 Jun 96 14:12:38 CDT Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:12:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Aleph One To: "Jason C. Lundy" <104242.1233@compuserve.com> Cc: sfraves Subject: Re: New Moons In-Reply-To: <199606141503_MC1-4C7-892D@compuserve.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Jason C. Lundy wrote: > My hair is about 6-8 inches past my shoulders, brown, and I'll probably be > wearing a Pink Floyd > t-shirt; maybe my red flannel when it gets colder. If it's truley cold, a > blue, stay-puff, marshmallow > jacket. Hmm thats almost as long as me ;) Guess we'll have to have the long hair dacing corner at the new moon. BTW anyone willing to give some hair for the altar? Heheheh... > If you're still consious in the morning, I'll be cookin' up pancakes and > fresh ground frech roast > coffee. > > See ya there SFraves! > > Gotta run....I'm laggin' > > > Take > Care, > > Jason > > > > > > > > > Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 12:19:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA21666; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:19:12 -0700 Received: from hornet.ns.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA21660; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:19:09 -0700 Received: (from dwarzau@localhost) by hornet.ns.net (8.6.10/8.6.10) id MAA14274; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:19:07 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:19:06 -0700 (PDT) From: John To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Paul Morris's email address Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I've been playing phone tag with Paul Morris from AM Only Entertainment and we both have really busy schedules... If anyone has his email address (I think it's on his business card, but I can't find mine), I would greatly appreciate it. Paul is DJ Dan and Jim Hopkin's booking agent and I really need to get a hold of him for a party I'm doing in August. Thanks, John From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 12:30:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA22923; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:30:05 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA22906; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:30:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id MAA157685; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:29:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:29:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson Reply-To: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com cc: Thomas Schwarz , elizabeth_o'connor@ccmail.rsco.com, rw@softway.com, kcroy@best.com, laitko@hpbio1.biologie.hu-berlin.de, sgam@well.com Subject: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) In-Reply-To: <199606141807.LAA75613@itsa.ucsf.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk OKAY, OKAY, OKAY! I stand corrected. Westbam at Nikita it is. I love hard german techno.... ! So who's going to make it out tonight? It'd be nice to have a big happy sfraves crowd to help fend off the daquiri-wielding club kids. Not sure what I'll be wearing, but I've got short bleached hair and new earrings. And a big smile! Smiles, Paul From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 12:50:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA24537; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:50:31 -0700 Received: from horatio.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA24531; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:50:28 -0700 Received: (from knegtel@localhost) by horatio.ucsf.EDU (940816.SGI.8.6.9/GSC4.24) id MAA03153 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:50:26 -0700 From: "Ronald Knegtel" Message-Id: <9606141250.ZM3151@horatio.ucsf.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 12:50:25 -0700 In-Reply-To: Paul Abramson "westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!)" (Jun 14, 12:29pm) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Jun 14, 12:29pm, Paul Abramson wrote: > Subject: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) > OKAY, OKAY, OKAY! I stand corrected. Westbam at Nikita it is. I love > hard german techno.... ! So who's going to make it out tonight? I may probably go there with Mrs. Frying Dutchman and two German friends. > It'd be nice to have a big happy sfraves crowd to help fend off the > daquiri-wielding club kids. Remember, PLU + Respect, even for daquiri-wielding club kids. Not everybody who likes daquiris is automatically a dick. > Not sure what I'll be wearing, but I've got short bleached hair and new > earrings. And a big smile! > > Smiles, > Paul Possibly wearing my light blue "Three seconds memory" T-shirt and hope to get a haircut today (if work permits, argh, and it's even friday). The Frying Dutchman -- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:10:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA26470; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:10:32 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA26464; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:10:29 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id NAA20604; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id NAA18723; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:10:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: Paul Abramson cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I love hard german techno too!...I think that I shall be going to this event...I hope that I can find a ride! I am not sure what i will be wearing, but I have blonde (dark from sweat (ooooh)after dancing too hard!) glasses and I dance like a madman to hard techno! I will probably wear jeans and a green knit shirt. see yall there! * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Paul Abramson wrote: > OKAY, OKAY, OKAY! I stand corrected. Westbam at Nikita it is. I love > hard german techno.... ! So who's going to make it out tonight? It'd be > nice to have a big happy sfraves crowd to help fend off the > daquiri-wielding club kids. > > Not sure what I'll be wearing, but I've got short bleached hair and new > earrings. And a big smile! > > Smiles, > Paul > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:11:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA26589; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:58 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA26573; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:53 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id NAA28416; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606142011.NAA28416@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: John From: Rick Riffle Subject: Re: Orion tonight Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Plus three live electronic music bands, all mixing together in the ambient room. :) Rick At 11:56 AM 6/14/96 -0700, you wrote: > >If you want to go to a REALLY good party this weekend, check out Orion >here in Sacramento. Lots of good hard trance, techno, jungle, and drum >n' bass DJs will be there, and it's a phat virgin warehouse location in >downtown Sacramento. I know this might seem like a long drive, but it's >really only about 1 1/2 hours or so from just about everywhere, and this >party will be worth the drive. If you're tired of all the parties filled >with gangstas and hoochies and the same 5 boooring DJs who are all really >good but burned out, come check it out. As of last night around 6 there >were over 300 presale tix sold at the Sac location alone, so there's >going to be a ton of great people there. Hope to see you all out tonight! > >John > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:18:26 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA27119; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:18:26 -0700 Received: from xanadu.cyborganic.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA27111; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:18:22 -0700 Received: (from tsheets@localhost) by xanadu.cyborganic.net (8.7.5/8.7.1) id NAA24413 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:18:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Troy Sheets Message-Id: <199606142018.NAA24413@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Subject: B-Boys? Tribe? Tibet??? To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:18:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Have I been in the dark or what! So, does the Tibet Freedom concert cost anything? If so, what? Does anyone know what time the Beastie Boys and a Tribe called Quest willbe playing? The polo fields at GG Park are really incredible. -troy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:22:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA27566; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:22:47 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA27541; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:22:37 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) id NAA22273; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:20:11 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA07446; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:15:57 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960614202559.006e40d4@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:25:59 -0700 To: "Ronald Knegtel" From: Ciaran Subject: Re: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Might go there too, downstairs was kickin last weekend , but wanna get up 4 free Tibet Me : Blondy hair/reddish smig. Possible beige top and grin . Top. Top...( insert stream of consciousness section here...wierd dissolves and bodies going all wobbly. Cut to small, dark bar with sign saying ; "due to noise complaints there will be no dj playing until further notice. or something like that") Top..... Top. Ah yes, whats up with the Top in Lr. Haight ? when are the tunes gonna resume ? Do any fellow Haight-ans (?) know the scoop ? Or does anyone know of similar bars with DJ's (apart from Noc Noc: tooo small). Kiron At 12:50 PM 6/14/96 -0700, you wrote: >On Jun 14, 12:29pm, Paul Abramson wrote: >> Subject: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) >> OKAY, OKAY, OKAY! I stand corrected. Westbam at Nikita it is. I love >> hard german techno.... ! So who's going to make it out tonight? > >I may probably go there with Mrs. Frying Dutchman and two German friends. > >> It'd be nice to have a big happy sfraves crowd to help fend off the >> daquiri-wielding club kids. > >Remember, PLU + Respect, even for daquiri-wielding club kids. Not everybody >who likes daquiris is automatically a dick. > >> Not sure what I'll be wearing, but I've got short bleached hair and new >> earrings. And a big smile! >> >> Smiles, >> Paul > >Possibly wearing my light blue "Three seconds memory" T-shirt and hope to >get a haircut today (if work permits, argh, and it's even friday). > >The Frying Dutchman > > > >-- > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:24:51 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA27763; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:24:51 -0700 Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA27752; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:24:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:24:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Thomas To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Attn: Tranceheads In-Reply-To: <9605138347.AA834711734@beluga.adoc.xerox.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jun 1996 Diane_Tabellija@adoc.xerox.com wrote: > Thought I'd pass this on, Daniel from Moontribe will be playing at Mantra > this Sunday at Cats Bar & Grill, 683 Clementina Alley nr. 8th & Folsom. I > know this is listed as a weekly in the sfraves calendar but thought I'd > give y'all a shout about this. I highly recomend checking this out for anyone looking for something this sunday. Daniel is one of the infamous moontribe dj's, and was one of my favorite LA dj's when I was down there. He used to play more of a psychedelic house style (his early morning moontribe sets are permenantly etched in my brain) but I hear he's more of a trance dj these days. Not really my style, but I'm going to go anyways just cuz it's been so long since I've heard him spin... Andy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:27:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA27929; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:27:05 -0700 Received: from orion.sfsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA27924; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:27:01 -0700 Received: (from dislex@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) id NAA24784; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:26:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:26:45 -0700 (PDT) From: MIKE BOLGER X-Sender: dislex@orion To: Troy Sheets cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: B-Boys? Tribe? Tibet??? In-Reply-To: <199606142018.NAA24413@xanadu.cyborganic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, Troy Sheets wrote: > > Have I been in the dark or what! > > So, does the Tibet Freedom concert cost anything? If so, what? cash. lots of it. > > Does anyone know what time the Beastie Boys and a Tribe called Quest > willbe playing? > the Beasties are headlining on Saturday & supposedlly doing an all punk set sometime on sunday. > > -troy > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > tsheets@cyborganic.net <- You have found me > tsheets@schwa.sun.com <- Official Use Only > http://www.cyborganic.com/People/tsheets <- Instant Content > troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:29:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA28132; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:29:58 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA28120; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:29:55 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA02515 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:29:53 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby (tgrigsby.us.dhl.com [199.41.137.104]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id NAA11625 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:27:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:27:48 -0700 Message-Id: <199606142027.NAA11625@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Saturday night X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ok, I've waited long enough and I ain't waitin' no mo'! This Saturday night I'm getting out of the house, away from the "straights", and out into the night, and I'm wondering where the really good stuff is going on. I've looked at the SFR calendar, but there was an FnF party I'd heard of that I didn't see on there. Any info? And where will you guys be going? S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:39:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA29163; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:39:16 -0700 Received: from netcom7.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA29144; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:39:10 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom7.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id NAA24813; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:39:07 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606142039.NAA24813@netcom7.netcom.com> Subject: B-Boys? Tribe? Tibet??? (fwd) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:39:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 982 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to sfraves list ] Troy had some questions - > So, does the Tibet Freedom concert cost anything? If so, what? > > Does anyone know what time the Beastie Boys and a Tribe called Quest > willbe playing? > > troys-list@schwa.sun.com <- Inquire Within > I don't know if there are any walk-in tickets left, but you can check the Polo Field Box Office - they are supposed to be selling them for $28.50 for one day, $50 for both days. BASS is selling them for that plus BASS charge. There's an article about the concert in today's (friday) S.F. Chronicle. It has the line-up for both days on page C8, bottom left of page. Bjork and Red Hot Chili Peppers and other folks appearing Sunday. I'm just guessing, but since each day starts at noon and runs till 5PM or so, ATCQuest will probably be on after 2PM , and Beastie Boys are supposed to close the show. Bands will be on two stages, so music will be effectively non-stop. Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 13:53:47 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA01086; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:53:47 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA00940; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:53:30 -0700 Received: from [157.22.222.111] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:53:24 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 13:53:24 -0700 To: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream), sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Wayne Correia Subject: Re: Saturday night Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk At 1:27 PM 6/14/96, SDream wrote: >Ok, I've waited long enough and I ain't waitin' no mo'! This Saturday night >I'm getting out of the house, away from the "straights", and out into the >night, and I'm wondering where the really good stuff is going on. I've >looked at the SFR calendar, but there was an FnF party I'd heard of that I >didn't see on there. Any info? And where will you guys be going? > >S There will be many members of the FnF crew out helping the New Moon party on Saturday night. In my opinion, it's my most highly recommended activity this weekend for sure. It has all the necessary ingredients for a quality event -- it's free, outdoors in a *beautiful* setting, put on by your friends in the underground, highly spiritual, and best of all, it was not promoted via any four-color foldout promotional flyers or greedy promoters -- but by your friends, adding music, nature and love.) See Tony Rotundo and Ann Elizabeth Loraine's previous messages for details on where to call and what to bring. pax, man. -w ____________________________________________________________________________ Wayne D. Correia wayne@club.net 900 Tennessee Street TEL: +1.415.826.6000 www.club.net San Francisco CA 94107-3014 FAX: +1.415.826.6100 www.domain.net From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:07:36 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA03101; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:07:36 -0700 Received: from locusts.Berkeley.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA03094; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:07:33 -0700 Received: (from dlb@localhost) by locusts.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA10610; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:07:27 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:07:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "'Dave Bayer'" X-Sender: dlb@locusts.berkeley.edu To: "\\SFRaves\\" Subject: Re: Palookaville Club "Raves" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, -=]madame mercury[=- wrote: > Palookaville raves = hippy ravers...if you like them then you're in > luck. So what are "hippy ravers"? Travellers? dave From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:32:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA06008; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:32:14 -0700 Received: from chronos.synopsys.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA05987; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:32:10 -0700 Received: from atropos.synopsys.com by chronos.synopsys.com with SMTP id AA07964 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:30:42 -0700 Received: from clotho.synopsys.com (clotho.synopsys.com [146.225.100.24]) by atropos.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id OAA22679; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:31:53 -0700 Received: from [146.225.72.168] (epaul-mac.synopsys.com [146.225.72.168]) by clotho.synopsys.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA13266; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:31:52 -0700 X-Sender: epaul@macpo-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:32:26 -0700 To: Wayne Correia From: epaul@Synopsys.COM (Eric P. Peterson) Subject: Re: Saturday night Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk If only I could split meself in two, and go to New Moon AND Monolith! Oh, well...I'll be with the New Mooners (!) in spirit, and the two parties can send lots of positive, loving nrg to each other :D Party on, - E (or is that "party on E?" ;)) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:36:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA06755; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:36:15 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA06746; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:36:12 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA09837 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:34:41 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id OAA04004 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:34:03 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Re: westbam/nikita (was Re: friday!!) Date: 14 Jun 1996 22:21:12 GMT Message-Id: <74907646.15252644@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Looks like im sold! I'll see all yall out @ Nikita tonite... Unless something else pops up... in the renegade scene (he, he...). I'll be dressed in pretty plain clothes (I ALWAYS dress in plain clothes) and will be hovering around a speaker. "Dance with me..." -Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:36:32 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA06798; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:36:32 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA06789; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:36:29 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA09901; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:34:55 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id OAA04006; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:34:05 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: SDream@tgrigsby.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Saturday night Date: 14 Jun 1996 22:26:17 GMT Message-Id: <14212959.15288644@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Monolith. Trance. 10$ Although probibly most of the SFR family will be at the New Moon party.... "dance with me...." -Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:38:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA07038; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:38:35 -0700 Received: from locusts.Berkeley.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA07032; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:38:32 -0700 Received: (from dlb@localhost) by locusts.Berkeley.EDU (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA10974; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:38:28 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:38:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "'Dave Bayer'" X-Sender: dlb@locusts.berkeley.edu To: "\\SFRaves\\" Subject: Re: Timothy Leary Memorial In-Reply-To: <199606131737.KAA06092@softway95.softway.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Renaud Waldura wrote: > So I don't believe in this flat scene, sorry. Maybe any movement > just _need_ a leader, a personnality to identify with... Maybe > is it just impossible to do without. On some levels we are not a flat scene, there are names and some people still run about thinking that djs or promotors are all knowing creatures to be idealized. But that is not the case everywhere (and its not necessarily the case here for that matter, just depends on which circles you travel through). I know systems which do not promote the names of djs or live acts and whose "promotors" and physical labours do not go around making a point of telling everyone that they throw these parties or those parties... Having a flat system depends on the people who come out not making a huge fuss over the djs or the promoters as well. They are all just people, and in an environment where the energy of a crowd is only amplified by a dj, a dj is not some god, but yet another integral part, like any of those people who are dancing next to you, looking around, and interacting with the world... Flat systems do exist, you just have to find them... dave From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:41:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA07295; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:41:16 -0700 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA07282; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:41:12 -0700 Received: by mercury.Sun.COM (Sun.COM) id OAA00622; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:40:40 -0700 Received: from zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM by Ebay.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-5.3) id AA07716; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:40:37 -0700 Received: by zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA12483; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:42:11 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:42:11 -0700 From: Nicole.Glover@Ebay.Sun.COM (Nikki Glover) Message-Id: <9606142142.AA12483@zacson61.EBay.Sun.COM> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Monolith X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey everyone, Where is Monolith going to be at?? That is on Saturday,right?? Well I hope everyone has a great time at New Moon,I can't make it. Could somei=one tell about Monlith please. Thanx nikki ;0) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 14:42:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA07501; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:42:57 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA07492; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:42:54 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for id OAA25633; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:40:29 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA10814 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:36:14 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960614214611.006a4480@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:46:11 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Ciaran Subject: Nikita, but what about the atop...? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Might go there too, downstairs was kickin last weekend , but wanna get up 4 free Tibet Me : Blondy hair/reddish smig. Possible beige top and grin . Top. Top...( insert stream of consciousness section here...wierd dissolves and bodies going all wobbly. Cut to small, dark bar with sign saying ; "due to noise complaints there will be no dj playing until further notice. or something like that") Top..... Top. Ah yes, whats up with the Top in Lr. Haight ? when are the tunes gonna resume ? Do any fellow Haight-ans (?) know the scoop ? Or does anyone know of similar bars with DJ's (apart from Noc Noc: tooo small). Kiron From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 15:00:07 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA09436; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:00:07 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA09431; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:00:04 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for id OAA26630; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:57:39 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA11535 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 14:53:25 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960614220322.006b46d0@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:03:22 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Ciaran Subject: cancelling my subscription ;-) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Dear San Franciso Raves, I am writing to express my utmost disappointment at not receiving any e-mail in the last 2 mins, yours dodging workingly, M.r Reach Fo' De'sky ;-);-);-);-() From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 15:00:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA09474; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:00:23 -0700 Received: from emout07.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA09468; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:00:20 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout07.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id RAA13475 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:59:47 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:59:47 -0400 Message-ID: <960614175947_328479142@emout07.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Rekkids 4 sale $1/pc, $20/crate(Sac) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Yep that's right a cornocopia of tunage for $20, or a buck a piece. Mostly 92-94 house, some acidhouse, some hip hop. Not worth driving up from SF for, but a steal for any up and coming house dj's around Sacto. Eme or call 443 8225. -sTeVeO P.S. Sorry, I dont have a list of whats in there, & no, I wont search for "this one record that goes boomp, schika a boomp boomp" From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 15:58:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA15697; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:58:30 -0700 Received: from relay2.smtp.psi.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA15685; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 15:58:27 -0700 From: elizabeth_o'connor@ccmail.rsco.com Received: from ccmail.rsco.com by relay2.smtp.psi.net (8.6.12/SMI-5.4-PSI) id SAA17961; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:47:46 -0400 Received: from cc:Mail by ccmail.rsco.com id AA834793160; Fri, 14 Jun 96 15:57:19 PST Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 15:57:19 PST Message-Id: <9605148347.AA834793160@ccmail.rsco.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Sunset Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Does anyone know if there's a Sunset on Sunday? If so any ideas where? Thanks all! - We have art so that we may not perish by the truth Nietsche From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 16:08:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA16662; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:08:18 -0700 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA16657; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:08:15 -0700 Received: from uucp1.unix.portal.com (uucp1.unix.portal.com [156.151.4.11]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA16921; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:06:44 -0700 Received: from compattic.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp1.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with UUCP id QAA10419; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:04:02 -0700 From: aguevara@compattic.com (Adam Guevara) Reply-To: aguevara@compattic.com To: SteveOSac@aol.com Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Rekkids 4 sale $1/pc, $20/crate(Sac) Date: 14 Jun 1996 23:47:26 GMT Message-Id: <74514430.15577455@compattic.com> Organization: Computer Attic Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk YO, I'll pickup that crate for 20bones. However, I'm situated down here in SF and I have no clue as to when I'll be in the SAC area... Soooo, if'in you're going to be down here this weekend for any parties, give me a jingle.... 415.614.7568 "Dance with me..." -Adam ____________________________ Transmitted from Computer Attic SuperCenter: (415) 363-8100 Corporate HQ: (415) 614-7500 ____________________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 16:57:53 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA21098; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:57:53 -0700 Received: from ns2.eds.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA21092; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:57:50 -0700 Received: by ns2.eds.com (hello) id TAA24297; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 19:57:48 -0400 Received: by nnsp.eds.com (hello) id TAA01576; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 19:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from notes.hds.eds.com by spot (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA22693; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 16:55:33 +0800 Received: by notes.hds.eds.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0386; Fri, 14 Jun 96 16:56:04 -0400 Message-Id: <9606142056.AA0386@notes.hds.eds.com> Received: from HDS with "Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP" id 709C446C609A3E3D8825634900832C7A; Fri, 14 Jun 96 16:56:02 To: "elizabeth_o'connor" Cc: sfraves From: Todd Manley/Santa Clara/HDS Date: 14 Jun 96 16:54:47 Subject: Re: Sunset Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi Elizabeth- If you find out when and where Sunset is, could you let me know. I'm going to be away from my computer all weekend. If anybody else knows, please leave a message for me at (408) 970-7032. -Thanks, Todd From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 17:09:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA22090; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:09:08 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA22083; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:09:05 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) id RAA01311; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:06:40 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA17672; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:02:26 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960615001224.006ad364@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:12:24 -0700 To: Todd Manley/Santa Clara/HDS From: Ciaran Subject: Re: Sunset Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I would love to get the lowdown on Sunset also. And if anyone could offer me a ride to it i would love them even more (metaphorically speaking, of course). My # is 415-621-6747, Kiron Reach for the skies!!!!!!!!!!!! At 04:54 PM 6/14/96, you wrote: >Hi Elizabeth- > > If you find out when and where Sunset is, could you let me know. I'm going to >be away from my computer all weekend. If anybody else knows, please leave a >message for me at (408) 970-7032. > >-Thanks, Todd > > > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 17:30:16 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA23920; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:30:16 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA23915; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:30:13 -0700 Received: from [136.152.95.73] (blather.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.95.73]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA31363 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:30:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-mailer: Eudora Pro 2.1.3 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: lachim@uclink4.berkeley.edu (michal migurski) Subject: Re: Saturday Tibet Show Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Hi folks - I'll be at the show as well... most likely I'll be wearing my grey "child t-shirt" (the design for it is on my webpage, in the portfolio, under "illustrator work:" http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim, if you're curious). -m. 0=-------B A R K O D E * A R T W O R K S-------=0 | -flyers, graphics and other diversions- | | for that whole body thirst situation | | | | (- Portfolio! -) | | http://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lachim/ | | | | *monster netscape 2.0 update extravaganza* | | C O M I N ' A T C H A ! | | | | Michal Migurski | | (408) 264-6604 | | | |"The skies are gray, but today they seem blue."| | | 0=---------------------=0=---------------------=0 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 17:45:15 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA24955; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:45:15 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA24949; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:45:12 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca7-22.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.54]) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA25525; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:43:36 -0700 Message-ID: <31C207B9.583E@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:45:45 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kcroy CC: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: HOORAY FOR FRIDAYS!/ insurance References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk kcroy wrote: > > >man, after this week i REALLY need the weekend :) > > > >Quick update on my CD woes - my roomie has begun giving me money to pay > >off the $500 or so that the cds are worth. He and his friends have been > >trying to find the guy who took em but needless to say he's done a VERY > >quick fade. I thought of calling the cops and insurance co. and > >everything but i don't want to bug insurance for only cds ... i'd rather > >wait until i come home and find my musical equipment gone for something > >like that :) > > you should bug the insurance people if they are covered. > we had someone walk into our office and walk off with a bag of CD's and had > no problem getting them replaced. so , i duuno. might be cooler than having > your roomie fork out the $$$ (for both of you) > > take care > kcRoy [snip] I work for a very large ins co. and am a licensed agent. More than likely, the homeowner deductible amt will be enough to deter you from submitting a claim. Also, cd's and other recording media are sometimes not covered. Keep in mind that in todays nasty (unfriendly) insurance market, it is EXTREMELY difficult to purchase a new insurance policy with any of the major insurance carriers (ie. state farm, farmers, allstate, aaa, etc.) If you keep submitting frivelous claims (and the ins. co will consider this frivelous!) you run the risk of having your policy canceled for loss frequency. I know it seems unfair, but that is just the way the market is in California. :( If anyone has any other insurance related questions, I'd be happy to discuss them with you. everyone have a GREAT weekend! [PEACE} -atoy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 17:52:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA25380; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:52:06 -0700 Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA25357; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:51:58 -0700 X-Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA12815; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:47:24 -0700 X-Received: from [205.231.222.75] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:46:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: knucklehead@mail.domain.net (Knucklehead) Subject: House/Techno DJ needed Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 12:46:51 -0700 ReSent-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:51:56 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Brian Behlendorf ReSent-To: sfraves@hyperreal.com ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey, I have a chance to spin at a house party on june 22nd from 3-7pm, in the South Bay for a graduation party, I might not be able to do it and was wondering if someone here was interested. For details please email me, and I'll give you the info. Tim (knucklehead) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 17:53:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA25523; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:53:33 -0700 Received: from localhost by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA25515; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:53:29 -0700 X-Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA28876; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:43:26 -0700 X-Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA25818 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:43:24 -0700 X-Received: from DAVID (davidt.vip.best.com [206.86.91.220]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id KAA12516 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:40:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199606131740.KAA12516@shellx.best.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 10:39:19 +0000 Subject: GAYS @ RAVES Reply-to: DAVID@best.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) ReSent-Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:53:27 -0700 (PDT) ReSent-From: Brian Behlendorf ReSent-To: sfraves@hyperreal.com ReSent-Message-ID: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello, I would like to get a discussion going about the seemingly low number of gay men and women I meet at raves. The gay population of San Francisco is perported to be anywhere from 20%-30% yet the really great rave scene in San Francisco seems mainly straight. Not that this is bad, over the past year I have met some really cool people and made some good friends, I would just like some of them to be gay. I had a blast at Tribal Future and Basics, I enjoy Wicked once in a while and Burning Man is a must, but why so few fellow gays? I love the spirit, the music and the energy of raves and wish there was a more even mix of people. I believe the time has come for less segregation, us gays no longer need to party at gay only places, the rave scene is the perfect environment for everyone to enjoy the party together. So what can we do to move things forward and make the scene more attractive to gay men and women? I would love to hear your views. Love from David From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 17:57:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA25842; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:57:50 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA25836; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:57:46 -0700 Received: from johnshmi (scz-ca7-22.ix.netcom.com [204.31.227.54]) by dfw-ix7.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id RAA26133; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:57:13 -0700 Message-ID: <31C20AEB.66C5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 17:59:23 -0700 From: ajtoy X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Thomas CC: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: Attn: Tranceheads References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Andy Thomas wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Jun 1996 Diane_Tabellija@adoc.xerox.com wrote: > > > Thought I'd pass this on, Daniel from Moontribe will be playing at Mantra > > this Sunday at Cats Bar & Grill, 683 Clementina Alley nr. 8th & Folsom. I > > know this is listed as a weekly in the sfraves calendar but thought I'd > > give y'all a shout about this. > > I highly recomend checking this out for anyone looking for something this > sunday. Daniel is one of the infamous moontribe dj's, and was one of my > favorite LA dj's when I was down there. He used to play more of a > psychedelic house style (his early morning moontribe sets are permenantly > etched in my brain) but I hear he's more of a trance dj these days. Not > really my style, but I'm going to go anyways just cuz it's been so long > since I've heard him spin... > > Andy [snip] My intro to the scene was at Moontribes Full Moon Gathering 05/31 to 06/01. I met DJ Daniel. He has got the coolest vibe and good karma surrounds him. You just feel it. His set was THE SHIT! I even have one of his tapes. If anyone ever has the opportunity to go down to SoCal for a full moon gathering, DO IT! You won't be sorry. 2000 shiny, happy people in the middle of nowhere sharing in humanity under the light of the full moon. It was magical. [peace] --atoy "Real happieness is cheap enough, yet how dearly we pay for its counterfeit." - Hosea Ballou From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 18:43:11 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA28865; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:43:11 -0700 Received: from emout10.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA28859; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 18:43:06 -0700 From: Thnkblnd@aol.com Received: by emout10.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA27482; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:42:49 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:42:49 -0400 Message-ID: <960614214248_328663364@emout10.mail.aol.com> To: pabrams@itsa.ucsf.edu, sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: friday!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk In a message dated 96-06-14 02:46:45 EDT, pabrams@itsa.ucsf.EDU (Paul Abramson) writes: >Nikita when I don't recognize >the dj, but.... (and there's not much else out there in SF on friday!!) HEY! Donald Glaude is in the basement at Nikita tonight! (You outta recognize HIM!) :) Rebecca From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 20:17:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA04890; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:17:58 -0700 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA04883; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:17:55 -0700 From: SteveOSac@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA14229 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:17:45 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:17:45 -0400 Message-ID: <960614231744_414580496@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Orion goers: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Wow, presold tickets are probably into the 500's by now, I don't mean to scare anyone off, but considering what happened at groove trip's last sacto party (sold out by 11pm), you might want to think twice before driving up from the city if you don't already have you tix, I found out the location (real nice but not too huge) This should be quite a party, if you're going, look for me, I've got big black baggy cords, with a black tshirt with neon stripes, I'm white with dark short.med hair, ill have my laminate on! -sTeVeO From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 20:30:25 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA05485; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:30:25 -0700 Received: from sundance.sjsu.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA05480; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:30:22 -0700 Received: from crc3.concentric.net (isc-ts2-80.SJSU.EDU [130.65.25.80]) by sundance.sjsu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.4) with SMTP id UAA03966 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:30:18 -0700 Message-ID: <31C22FE8.18C2@sundance.sjsu.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:37:12 -0700 From: kim bertrand X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: SFraves@hyperreal.com Subject: re:Whats up Fri nite Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk G'day, checked the calender and only orion on tonite. Pleaseee, anything else on tonite? Much appreciated, Kim From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 20:55:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA06855; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:55:14 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA06850; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:55:10 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id UAA21662; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:55:08 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id UAA16685; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:55:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 20:55:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy C Cone Subject: Re: Palookaville Club "Raves" To: "'Dave Bayer'" cc: "\\SFRaves\\" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, 'Dave Bayer' wrote: > > > On Fri, 14 Jun 1996, -=]madame mercury[=- wrote: > > > Palookaville raves = hippy ravers...if you like them then you're in > > luck. > > So what are "hippy ravers"? Travellers? > > dave > Did someone say "Deadbeats"? =) Ran -=*=- ~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 21:43:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id VAA09744; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:43:31 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA09739; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:43:28 -0700 Received: from [136.152.8.172] (neurophenomena.HIP.Berkeley.EDU [136.152.8.172]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA15431; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 21:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199606131740.KAA12516@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: DAVID@best.com From: David Ginsberg Subject: Re: GAYS @ RAVES Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk My computer tells me that at 10:39 AM -0000 6/13/96, David wrote: >So what can we do to move things forward and make the scene more >attractive to gay men and women? I've wondered about this a little myself. I've heard that Spundae is actually quite mixed and plan to go this week-end. I'll let you know what I think. I'm definately not into the Castro scene, but at the same time it' would be nice to go to a party or club which is at least somewhat mixed. I was in Seattle a couple of weeks ago and there's a new mixed-rave club there on Fridays called "Electrolush" & I LOVE it! It's so nice to go to a club that's TRULY mixed. I haven't seen anything like it since my all-ages club days in Seattle (early 80s - before the rave scene). By my estimation it's now the hottest club on the west coast. Maybe with the right nurturing something similar could develop here, if not Spundae maybe something else. I'm not sure what can be done (aside from passing out flyers at Universe & Club Q etc., to bring more gays into the scene). I suspect it's just a matter of creating the right groove which will draw people of all sexual orientations (or no orientations, as the case may be). hugs, David ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~ ~~ ~ ~ David Ginsberg Student of Neurophenomenology and the Human Condition University of California, Berkeley ginsberg@uclink4.berkeley.edu ~ ~ ~~ ~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 22:30:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id WAA11928; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 22:30:09 -0700 Received: from island.islandnet.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id WAA11921; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 22:30:07 -0700 Received: by island.islandnet.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0uUnvw-000FaxC; Fri, 14 Jun 96 22:30 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 22:30 PDT From: solo@islandnet.com (solo) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: g'bye everybody :) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hey y'all... I gotta remove myself from tha list for a bit... Ill be back...not like anyone will miss me :) Its been great lurking on your guys list...(Im in Canada, on NorthWest Raves) and cant wait until i can come to your insanely amazing city. Anyway...could someone please tell me how to unsub? I think i know...but so i dont do sumthin dumb...could someone please remind me :) everyone have a good summer bye peace bill.e .com communications http://www.islandnet.com/~solo/ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 23:01:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA13305; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:01:28 -0700 Received: from Zool.AirTouch.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA13295; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:01:25 -0700 Received: from nit.AirTouch.COM by Zool.AirTouch.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA22106; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:01:14 -0700 Received: from hacksaw.nit.airtouch.com by nit.AirTouch.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1/AirTouch-nit:MLC-940403-02) id AA04537; Fri, 14 Jun 96 23:01:13 PDT From: mikes@nit.AirTouch.COM (Mike Schneir) Message-Id: <9606150601.AA04537@nit.AirTouch.COM> Subject: Re: g'bye everybody :) To: solo@IslandNet.com (solo) Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:01:12 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: from "solo" at Jun 14, 96 10:30:00 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL17] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Here you go (from the mail I got when I subscribed): If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, send the following command in email to "sfraves-request@hyperreal.com": unsubscribe Another lurker, -mike > > Hey y'all... > I gotta remove myself from tha list for a bit... > Ill be back...not like anyone will miss me :) > Its been great lurking on your guys list...(Im in Canada, on NorthWest > Raves) and cant wait until i can come to your insanely amazing city. > > Anyway...could someone please tell me how to unsub? > I think i know...but so i dont do sumthin dumb...could someone please > remind me :) > everyone have a good summer > bye > > > > > > > > > > > peace > bill.e > .com communications > http://www.islandnet.com/~solo/ > From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Fri Jun 14 23:30:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id XAA15031; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:30:04 -0700 Received: from terra.sirius.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA15009; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:29:59 -0700 Received: from [205.134.228.61] (ppp061-sf2.sirius.com [205.134.228.61]) by terra.sirius.com (8.6.12/960421) with SMTP id XAA08282; Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:29:53 -0700 X-Sender: sddpw@pop.sirius.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 23:29:52 -0700 To: Ciaran , sfraves@hyperreal.com From: sddpw@sirius.com (Shimako-Dominguez Department of Public Works) Subject: What about The Top Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >Ah yes, whats up with the Top in Lr. Haight ? when are the tunes gonna resume ? >Do any fellow Haight-ans (?) know the scoop ? > My basic (emphasis on basic) understanding is that they are having problems because the daughter of some SFPD bigwig, moved in next door. It would be funny if it didn't happen quite so often. "daddy, can't you do anything about all the horrible people in the neighborhood. if they were all gone, maybe then we could have a Gap and it would be Perfect". Sorry, just venting a bit there. Anyway, my understanding is, despite Muffy and her unrealistic expectations, they should be back to pumping out the jams come end of June. Again, this is really basic info from the people at the Top. peace.... arkay From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 00:32:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA20084; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:32:18 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA20079; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:32:15 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id AAA00888; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:32:11 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id AAA22875; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:32:06 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy C Cone Subject: Re: GAYS @ RAVES To: David Ginsberg cc: DAVID@best.com, sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > >So what can we do to move things forward and make the scene more > >attractive to gay men and women? > I like to know what one can do to support a more mixed scene (other than by being gay). I firmly believe that the gay and lesbian community have critically important insights to offer society as a whole and that their prescence at raves is essiential in order to keep the scene alive and growing. I do know that in Santa Cruz we have the Blue Lagoon which is normally a gay/lesbian club that churns out some techno/house nights. Yet I've heard grumblings from the patrons about the prescence of "breeders" on these nights (the management likes the extra income). My complaint is that if the queer community doesn't welcome hetro's (and sometimes bi folks) how can they demand to be accepted in return? I realise that this is only a few individuals (I hope!) but we need to work on both sides to create a more accepting community where NO ONE is ostracised. Ran @ Dionysus Dreams ( yell ) / -=*=-/ ~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 00:36:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id AAA20270; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:36:56 -0700 Received: from emout08.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA20264; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 00:36:53 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout08.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id DAA04467; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 03:36:38 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 03:36:38 -0400 Message-ID: <960615033635_217805777@emout08.mail.aol.com> To: ginsberg@uclink4.berkeley.edu cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: GAYS @ RAVES Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I agree!:) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 04:27:09 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id EAA10542; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:27:09 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA10537; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:27:07 -0700 Received: from violet.berkeley.edu (violet.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.22]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA08700 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost by violet.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/1.33-960227) id EAA15696; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:27:05 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 04:27:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Rose To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: top 10! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk signs that youve just danced your ass off to the hottest set of your life... I guess I need help with this one! :) (hi frying dutchman!) 1. ??? 1. ??? 1. ??? 1. ??? 1. smiles smiles smiles! 1. you begin to wonder where you learned the amazing footwork you are doing. 1. you are so into the groove...eyes closed...hands waving crazily in the air...you lookk around and everyone else is waving their hands crazily in the air too 1. for two days afterwards you are hearing music in your head 1. when the music stopped...no one stops dancing 1. even your underwear are dripping with sweat. * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** Paul Anthony Rose UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 11:31:37 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA04062; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:31:37 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA04048; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:31:34 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uV08B-0001Q9C; Sat, 15 Jun 96 11:31 PDT Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 11:31:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: Tony Rose cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: top 10! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk how about ... your soul and heart are filled with so much love and vibe that you feel like you could just SCREAM cos if you don't you might just explode! :) THAT'S the feeling i like best. I don't think i've ever even got it from sex, to be honest. k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 12:00:57 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA05891; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:00:57 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA05886; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:00:54 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA01612 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:00:52 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby.vip.best.com (tgrigsby.vip.best.com [205.149.169.221]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id MAA09732 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:00:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:00:45 -0700 Message-Id: <199606151900.MAA09732@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Re: HOORAY FOR FRIDAYS!/ insurance X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >> >Quick update on my CD woes - my roomie has begun giving me money to pay >> >off the $500 or so that the cds are worth. First, I think the roomie is being *very* cool about this situation. Sad to say, but it's not easy to come by honest, stand-up people... >If you keep submitting frivelous claims >(and the ins. co will consider this frivelous!) you run the risk of >having your policy canceled for loss frequency. So let me get this straight: Insurance companies can cancel you for using the service you paid for? Wouldn't that be like a bank closing your account and confiscating your money because you made too many withdrawals? Yeah, I know, you don't have to remind me about how insurance companies make their money and how they're continuously ripped off. I just don't think it justifies them ripping us off right back. INSURANCE = SCAM. S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 12:20:18 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA07236; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:20:18 -0700 Received: from umr.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA07227; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:20:14 -0700 Received: from saucer.cc.umr.edu (saucer.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.58]) via ESMTP by hermes.cc.umr.edu (8.7.5/R.4.16) id OAA17035; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:20:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: from (rkumar@localhost) by saucer.cc.umr.edu (8.6.12/M.3.01) id OAA18447; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:20:10 -0500 Message-Id: <199606151920.OAA18447@saucer.cc.umr.edu> Subject: New Moon ride needed! To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:20:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "roger kumar" X-Www-Page: http://www.umr.edu/~rkumar/ X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello. A friend of mine visiting from Illinois and I want to go to New Moon, but are somewhat lacking transportation. If anyone has room for two for a ride up to the beach, please please email me or call me at 510.664.3175... we're in berkeley but can meet you at any bart station at any time. Thanks very very much! rkumar@umr.edu, rkumar@lbl.gov -- pJou_| pgpfone encrypted calls and pgp encrypted mail accepted _l public keys on server or by request From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 12:55:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA09617; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:55:08 -0700 Received: from uclink4.berkeley.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA09611; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:55:05 -0700 Received: from uclink.berkeley.edu (uclink.berkeley.edu [128.32.155.3]) by uclink4.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA27498 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from anthrax@localhost) by uclink.berkeley.edu (8.7.5/8.6.12) id MAA03655 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:53:07 -0700 From: Ann Elizabeth Loraine Message-Id: <199606151953.MAA03655@uclink.berkeley.edu> Subject: new moon tonite To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 12:53:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi everyone!! Here's a little request to all that are coming tonite: If anyone has a lantern, it would be cool if you could bring it! Also, if you have any spare gas containers lying around, it would be cool if you could bring some fuel, as well. Once again, be sure to bring a flashlight, water, good shoes, and some warm clothes, just in case. Love, Ann (for the NM collective) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 13:34:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA12515; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:34:19 -0700 Received: from nixon.ind.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA12508; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 13:34:15 -0700 Received: (from lmnt@localhost) by nixon.ind.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA02737; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:08:12 +1000 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:08:11 +1000 (EST) From: ed colmar To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: (BSP) Movement Monday June 17, 1996 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This Monday at Movement (1600 Market St.): John Carel Lmnt Ron Allen With residents: Julio Kimo For more info call: 415.263.5797 _______ _____________________________ | CDJ LMNT ... ed colmar | | Aural Pilot .. immersive Arts | /| _______| http://www.immersivearts.org/ |_______|/ |__________________ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 14:22:08 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA15152; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:22:08 -0700 Received: from tango.rahul.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA15147; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:22:05 -0700 Received: from bolero.rahul.net by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04095 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:22:02 -0700 Received: from [206.61.226.222] (c222.rahul.net) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04069 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:21:58 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:21:58 -0700 Message-Id: <199606152121.AA04069@bolero.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: wolfe@rahul.net (Nancy W. Wolfe) Subject: Re: Sunset Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk To whom it may concern: Yes, my friends there is a Sunset tomorrow. I cannot divulge the location info but the line will tell you tomorrow around noon. (415) 985-5264. See you tomorrow. -Nancy P.S. What is all this right front speaker stuff? Do all the people on this group meet in front of the speaker or is it only some of you? What's really going on? -Nancy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 14:32:44 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA15819; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:32:44 -0700 Received: from tango.rahul.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id OAA15806; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:32:40 -0700 Received: from bolero.rahul.net by tango.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04328 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:32:37 -0700 Received: from [206.61.226.222] (c222.rahul.net) by bolero.rahul.net with SMTP id AA04792 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:32:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 14:32:34 -0700 Message-Id: <199606152132.AA04792@bolero.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: wolfe@rahul.net (Nancy W. Wolfe) Subject: Re: GAYS @ RAVES Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Many many moons ago the house scene in S.F. began. I'm not sure how many of you are aware of this but the only place you could go to hear house music back them was in gay clubs. They are all still (the house and techno fools anyway) very much a part of this scene. Even if there are not as many out at parties we must never forget who really brought this scene to S.F. and give credit where credit is deserved. I think one of the main reasons why most gay people don't come out to parties as much, is because there are gay clubs in the city still playing house music. I think, in general, most of them would rather hear music in an atmosphere they feel comfortable in with people who feel the same. -Nancy From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 15:09:04 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id PAA18834; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:09:04 -0700 Received: from vanbc.wimsey.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id PAA18825; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:09:01 -0700 Received: by vanbc.wimsey.com (Smail-3.1.29.1 #32) id m0uV3Wd-0001SrC; Sat, 15 Jun 96 15:08 PDT Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Karen Hardie To: SDream cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: HOORAY FOR FRIDAYS!/ insurance In-Reply-To: <199606151900.MAA09732@shellx.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ys, it's true, if everyone took every little weeny theft to insurance they wouldn't cover us any more. that's why i'm not taking this one to them, and also why i didn't report the loss of my leather jacket to them (although i DID contact the cops on that - but that's cos they also had my credit card, driver's licence etc.). And i'm very happy that my roomie is so concerned for me :) especially since he's just some guy i found through the newspaper and he could have been just as evil! *whew* reveling in the sunshine, k From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 16:51:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA25493; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:51:14 -0700 Received: from mom.hooked.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA25487; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:51:10 -0700 Received: from tuna.hooked.net (moonpup@tuna.hooked.net [206.80.6.42]) by mom.hooked.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA02337 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:55:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Milton Cecil Received: (from moonpup@localhost) by tuna.hooked.net (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA13363; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:55:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606152355.QAA13363@tuna.hooked.net> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: MOONPUP in London Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk SFRavers, moonpup is having difficulty getting his email (including past messages). Apparently he never got any of them. What I'm going to have to do is print each message out and send them to him. So anyone who would like to say hi to moonpup in London, should send me (Erik) a message for him at this address (moonpup@hooked.net) and I will make sure that he gets it via post mail. *Please address messages as "moonpup" in the subject. That way there is no chance that I will delete any messages for him. --erik **IMPORTANT! READ DISCLAIMER** These words were NOT written by moonpup He's in London until late August ...and I'm ERIK. I'll be using his address until then Please address all comments, rebuttals, love or hate letters to me, ERIK or drop me a line... 415-337-6666 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 16:58:35 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA25942; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:58:35 -0700 Received: from dns2.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA25934; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:58:33 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns2.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA17079; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:58:30 -0700 Received: from DAVID (davidt.vip.best.com [206.86.91.220]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id QAA28201; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:58:22 -0700 Message-Id: <199606152358.QAA28201@shellx.best.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 16:53:22 +0000 Subject: MORE GAYS @ RAVES Reply-to: DAVID@best.com CC: davidt@londonantique.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello again, Interesting feedback so far, perhaps there are more gays at raves than I thought, but even so it would be nice to see more. I am going to start inviting all my gay friends and all of their gay friends and get a whole gays at raves pyramid going. I love the idea of this mix of people, I don't think we should be having to choose whether to go to a "Gay" party or a "Straight" party, my friendships are not based on sexual orientation so it will be a fabulous party when we can all go out with our friends and no matter whether you are straight/gay/lesbian/bi/bi-curious/straight curious/gender non-specific/or a-sexual you can party with others just like you and celebrate diversity without feeling alone. Utopia is right at our fingertips and I want to party there! Please keep this dicussion going and please invite all your friends to join in. TTFN David From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 17:39:50 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA28407; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:39:50 -0700 Received: from emout19.mail.aol.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA28402; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:39:47 -0700 From: Jondabomb@aol.com Received: by emout19.mail.aol.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA17637 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:39:43 -0400 Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:39:43 -0400 Message-ID: <960615203942_329396052@emout19.mail.aol.com> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: 2nd Chakra Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk See you all at 2nd Chakra. i'll be wearing my Nawty Boy t-shirt. Come say hello. You can give me a blank tape their and I will make copies of my tape for anyone who wants one. THEY ARE FREE!!!!!:) I might have candy too, and I will definatley have hugz and smiles!!!!!:) Peace, Jonathan From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 17:58:14 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA29416; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:58:14 -0700 Received: from ultima.org by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id RAA29379; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 17:57:33 -0700 Received: from ultima.org by ultima.org; Sat, 15 Jun 96 16:49 PDT Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960615125609.6fbf535c@ultima.org> X-Sender: freakz@ultima.org X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 05:56:09 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Freak Zone Subject: IRC? Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Bored today so I'll be in the #sfraves channel! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 18:55:02 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id SAA02741; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:55:02 -0700 Received: from mail.domain.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id SAA02727; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:54:59 -0700 Received: from [157.22.222.111] by mail.domain.net with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1); Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:54:53 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 2 (High) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 18:55:08 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Wayne Correia Subject: http://www.spacechildren.com/ Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk As promised, the Orbital and Underworld concert info is now online! So be sure to point your browser at the newest site in the club.net/domain.net family! ____________________________________________________________________________ Wayne D. Correia wayne@club.net 900 Tennessee Street TEL: +1.415.826.6000 www.club.net San Francisco CA 94107-3014 FAX: +1.415.826.6100 www.domain.net From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 19:11:30 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id TAA03786; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 19:11:30 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA03781; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 19:11:27 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA25537 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 19:11:25 -0700 Received: from DAVID (davidt.vip.best.com [206.86.91.220]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id TAA07520 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 19:11:21 -0700 Message-Id: <199606160211.TAA07520@shellx.best.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "David" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 19:09:56 +0000 Subject: MORE GAYS @ RAVES 2ND CHAKRA Reply-to: DAVID@best.com Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.01) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I will be at 2nd Chakra wearing a light sky blue t-shirt with yellow lines on the shoulders and sleeves, blue jeans & boots, nearly shoulder length blond hair and I'm English too, come say hello. Love Dave From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 20:03:23 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA07067; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:03:23 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA07060; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:03:19 -0700 Received: from andorra.it.earthlink.net (andorra.it.earthlink.net [198.68.160.97]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA15523 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [153.37.82.114] (pool050.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.114]) by andorra.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29452 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:01:10 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: test/delete Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I have no mail I have no mail I have no mail I have no mail I have no mail I have no mail I have no mail I have no mail . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sat Jun 15 20:11:31 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA07541; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:11:31 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA07533; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:11:18 -0700 Received: from andorra.it.earthlink.net (andorra.it.earthlink.net [198.68.160.97]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA15734 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [153.37.82.114] (pool054.Max3.Santa-Clara.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.82.118]) by andorra.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA29899 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sat, 15 Jun 1996 20:09:28 +0200 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: exodus@earthlink.net (Austin) Subject: Tonight! change of plans!!! Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hello familly. Well I was planning to go to 2nd Chakra but because of some bunk info I will now try to get out to Liquid groove since it's in the city!! yeah I don't have to drive to sac... Most of you are probable not even going to get this till tommorrow ohh well. I heard 2nd Chakra is at the same location as Basics also Indoniesia is at the place most of you would like to boycott so hopefully I'll see some of yous at Groove trip...only 12 bucks See ya there . . __/-^-\__ . . . . . <<<>>> . . . @ . `'\-*-/`' . . . . . = . . /|\ . . . . . . / | \ . . . / | \ . . . . . / / | \ \. . . . / / | \ \ . . . = . . / / / | \ \ \ . . . . . / / / | \ \ \ . . = . . / / / / | \ \ \ \. . . . . / / / / | \ \ \ \ . . _@_/` ~\_e_/~ _G/ O ~\_Q_ ~\_8_| _9_ . . ~/ }} (*) < =99 /|\ (.)\, [#] ,/ }}\, \\ /| ~\/ \ _=3D=3D=3D___=3D=3D=3D_ // / \ /\/ = . // \\ / [___________] \\ \ / \ ~~ ~~ ~ ^ ^ ~~ ~ ~ ~ . . From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 05:23:59 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id FAA00471; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 05:23:59 -0700 Received: from lazlo.steam.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA00461; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 05:23:55 -0700 Received: from relay-2.mail.demon.net (disperse.demon.co.uk [158.152.1.77]) by lazlo.steam.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id FAA26003 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 05:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id aa11887; 16 Jun 96 13:11 +0100 Received: from spinback.demon.co.uk ([158.152.115.183]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id ab24443; 16 Jun 96 11:28 +0100 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 10:27:34 GMT From: sfraves Reply-To: sfraves@spinback.demon.co.uk Message-Id: <140@spinback.demon.co.uk> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Cc: wayne@club.net Subject: A thankyou from Britain..... X-Mailer: FIMail V0.9d X-User: Alpha Test Version Of FI-Mail, DisWin 1.5C:\WINSOCK\WINDIS Lines: 54 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk To All the wonderful people I had the pleasure in meeting whilst in CA the last few weeks. What can I say? except a HGe thankyou for the love and support that you all have given me. I was a little aprehensive at first about hanging out with you all, mainly as I din't want to be a hinderence to you, but after TF alone, I found that my time SF and the people I have met has been one of the most truly invigorating experiences in my live so far. I am now looking say in a couple of years or so, to move out to SF on a permanent basis, as I feel that I am more at ease with life over there than here. In England I am seen as a little different that most people, mainly due to my openess and love, and I felt so at peace with myself and was on the same wavelength as many of you, something which I haven't felt as yet over here. I will finish here, as it is extrememly difficult to put down so many emotions in one e-mail without getting a little depressed at being back home. once again, I may be half way across the world, but SF and all of you that I met will be very close in my heart, Love Daryll XXXXXX **************************************** * daryll@spinback.demon.co.uk * **************************************** * 197 The Avenue,London,E4 9SD,England * **************************************** * * 0 0 * * "Living is a Life Sentence" * * * * \___/ * **************************************** From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 11:01:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA18989; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:01:28 -0700 Received: from cyprus.it.earthlink.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA18984; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:01:25 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (pool061.Max2.San-Francisco.CA.DYNIP.ALTER.NET [153.37.99.61]) by cyprus.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA09155 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:01:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606161801.LAA09155@cyprus.it.earthlink.net> X-Sender: cnielsen@earthlink.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Courtney Nielsen Subject: 1st music experience Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I know this is an old discussion, but I haven't had the chance to check my mail in the last couple of weeks and I couldn't pass this one up... I think the 1st song that made me realize that something was out there was Nothing to Fear by Depeche Mode - heard it back aroung 6th grade. It's kinda wierd - all my life I think I have been into instrumentals more than vocals. Maybe that's why I like house music so much. From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 11:53:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA22302; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:53:10 -0700 Received: from bethe.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA22296; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 11:53:06 -0700 Received: by bethe.ucdavis.edu (4.1/UCD2.05) id AA13225; Sun, 16 Jun 96 11:52:45 PDT From: alves@bethe.ucdavis.edu (David Alves) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 96 11:52:45 PDT Message-Id: <9606161852.AA13225@bethe.ucdavis.edu> To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: re: right speaker Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Nancy, what is "going on" at the right speaker? is it decorated? Dave From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 12:28:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id MAA25644; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:28:05 -0700 Received: from mail.Clark.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA25636; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 12:28:02 -0700 Received: from clark.net (hunt1@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id PAA02193 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 15:28:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hunt1@localhost) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA20105 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 15:28:08 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clark.net: hunt1 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 15:28:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Huntington To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: OLD POLICE SONG In-Reply-To: <9606161852.AA13225@bethe.ucdavis.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk I heard a Jeno tape with a phat remix of voices inside my head by the police the other day and i was wondering if any one out there knows who remixed it and if it is available on vinyl??? Any info is greatly appreciated. Terry Huntington www.clark.net/pub/hunt1/terry.html =20 ~\_=E5_/~ =20 (=EC) =20 /| =FF =20 \\ =F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8 Celebrate Vinyl!! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 13:02:11 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id NAA28180; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:11 -0700 Received: from precipice.v-site.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id NAA28174; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:05 -0700 Received: from ecotopia by precipice.v-site.net (8.6.10/SM-8.6.4) id NAA23164; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:10 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 13:02:10 -0700 Message-Id: <199606162002.NAA23164@precipice.v-site.net> X-Sender: geoffw2@v-site.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 2.0.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Terry Huntington From: geoffw@cybertribe.com (Geoff White) Subject: Re: OLD POLICE SONG Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >I heard a Jeno tape with a phat remix of voices inside my head by the >police the other day and i was wondering if any one out there knows who >remixed it and if it is available on vinyl??? Yes it's available on vinyl (I have it) but it came out several months ago so you may not find it. (but someone might sell you their copy) G From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 14:12:22 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA03489; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:12:22 -0700 Received: from mail.Clark.Net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA03484; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:12:19 -0700 Received: from clark.net (hunt1@clark.net [168.143.0.7]) by mail.Clark.Net (8.7.3/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA11493; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:12:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (hunt1@localhost) by clark.net (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA05699; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:12:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: clark.net: hunt1 owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:12:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Terry Huntington Reply-To: Terry Huntington To: Geoff White cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: OLD POLICE SONG In-Reply-To: <199606162002.NAA23164@precipice.v-site.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk WOW, Responses so quickly, i love it! I was able to find it thanks to shannon richbourg. Thanks for the help!! On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Geoff White wrote: > >I heard a Jeno tape with a phat remix of voices inside my head by the > >police the other day and i was wondering if any one out there knows who > >remixed it and if it is available on vinyl??? >=20 >=20 > Yes it's available on vinyl (I have it) but it came out several months ag= o > so you may not find it. (but someone might sell you their copy) >=20 >=20 >=20 > G >=20 >=20 Terry Huntington www.clark.net/pub/hunt1/terry.html ~\_=E5_/~ =20 (=EC) =20 /| =20 \\ =F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8=F8 Celebrate Vinyl!! From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 14:34:56 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA05129; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:34:56 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA05122; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:34:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id OAA08302 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:35:00 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:35:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: *** NEW MOON.... initial response *** Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Ha! The first one back to e-mail.... :) :) New Moon was just as transcendent as I had hoped for.. crystal clear stars, crashing waves in the morning, happy smiling ravers, lots of love, and the kicker: some amazing goa from Tom around 9:30am that totally got us out of our head (thanks jess!!). I'm a little overwhelmed, so I think we'll just head to Sunset and maybe check out Hardsequncer (again!) at Spundae tonight. He was great on friday!! Take care, and LOL....the summer has really begun!! (a few days early, even)... see you at the Solstice! 8-) Paul 8-D (and Tom and Shawna) From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 14:38:55 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id OAA05370; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:38:55 -0700 Received: from scruz.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id OAA05364; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:38:52 -0700 Received: from [165.227.109.23] by scruz.net (8.7.3/1.34) id OAA28059; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:39:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: anarch@mail.scruznet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 14:41:28 -0800 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: anarch@scruznet.com (Anarch) Subject: Ambient performances Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Lorelei tonight at the Pacific Cultural Center in Santa Cruz (1307 Seabright), 8pm. Also at a bookstore, I think, in Mountain View Tuesday. Cluster at the Maritime Hall in SF on the 28th. anarch@scruznet.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 16:38:46 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id QAA14301; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:38:46 -0700 Received: from cats.ucsc.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id QAA14293; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:38:43 -0700 Received: from ese.UCSC.EDU by cats.ucsc.edu with SMTP id QAA09236; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:38:53 -0700 Received: by ese.UCSC.EDU (8.6.13/4.7) id QAA06034; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:38:52 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:38:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy C Cone Subject: Re: Ambient performances To: Anarch cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Anarch wrote: > Lorelei tonight at the Pacific Cultural Center in Santa Cruz (1307 > Seabright), 8pm. Also at a bookstore, I think, in Mountain View Tuesday. > Cluster at the Maritime Hall in SF on the 28th. Hi! Thanks for the tip!!!! Any word on cost? If you e-mail me right back I should get it even if it seems like my mailer isn't recieving. Ran ( gleeepo znork ) / -=*=-/ ~ From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 17:09:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id RAA16271; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:09:33 -0700 Received: from scruz.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA16263; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:09:30 -0700 Received: from [165.227.109.23] by scruz.net (8.7.3/1.34) id RAA03488; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:09:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: anarch@mail.scruznet.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:12:06 -0800 To: Randy C Cone From: anarch@scruznet.com (Anarch) Subject: Re: Ambient performances Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Randy C Cone wrote: >On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Anarch wrote: >> Lorelei tonight at the Pacific Cultural Center in Santa Cruz (1307 >> Seabright), 8pm. Also at a bookstore, I think, in Mountain View Tuesday. >> Cluster at the Maritime Hall in SF on the 28th. > > Thanks for the tip!!!! Any word on cost? Pacific Cultural Center events are usually around $5. I don't know about the bookstore thing. And the Cluster show I'm sure will be ticketed by Bass, since it's at the Maritime Hall, so they should be able to tell you. anarch@scruznet.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Sun Jun 16 20:50:40 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id UAA02110; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:50:40 -0700 Received: from dns1.noc.best.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA02101; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:50:36 -0700 Received: from shellx.best.com (shellx.best.com [206.86.0.11]) by dns1.noc.best.net (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id UAA23072 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:50:47 -0700 Received: from tgrigsby.vip.best.com (tgrigsby.vip.best.com [205.149.169.221]) by shellx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id UAA01732 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:50:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 20:50:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199606170350.UAA01732@shellx.best.com> X-Sender: tgrigsby@best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Subject: Review: New Moon Rave 6/15/96 X-Mailer: Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Well, it's been a while since I've posted. For personal reasons I had to divert my attention from the rave scene for a while, so when it finally got to be too much and I had to let loose, I made sure to pick a place where I knew there would be good friends and a good time waiting. I also had to choose carefully since I was bringing a friend that had never raved, and I wanted her to meet the coolest people around, my rave buddies. I was not disappointed. THE GOOD: The location was *gorgeous*! Cliffs, huge rocks, a night so clear you could see the Milky Way and bajillions of stars. Everyone told me they saw shooting stars, but I'm afraid I missed them. I was tuned into some very good beats. I found that dancing in the sand wasn't so bad, but putting down some cardboard first makes things a lot easier. Waves crashing down on the beach. As daylight took over, the huge rocks in the ocean, the cliff and the hills behind appeared, grey and mysterious in the mist. Rather ethereal and mystical. There was, I think, about 70 people there? A little alter, a DJ tent, a fire, and so much wonderful vibe. THE BAD: First let me say, this location was WAY THE HELL OUT THERE! Dang, folks, surely there's got to be a spot like this a little closer to Frisco. Driving up to San Fran is bad enough. Having to drive another hour and 1/2 beyond that is HELL. And that was the *only* thing bad about this rave. THE PEOPLE: I knew at least half the people there, and that was a first. Rikki was cutting it up with glo sticks. Wayne was there with Marcy. Leslie showed some killer moves. Tim was doin' the rastah thing on his anniversary. And Shawna was there, with wonderful hugs! Renaud was there with Jess. Jess was playing it low key -- poor baby has been brutalized by finals. She spent a large part of the evening sitting bundled up by the fire and snoozing in her sleeping bag. Met Aleph. A very quiet, sweet guy. My friends loved the rave, including the rave virgin. I think she'll be up for trying out more of this wonderful scene. THE VIBE: Heck, I met a ton of people, and I got nothing but really, really good feelings the whole night. Big grins, plenty of hugs, chatting with good people. And when I'm getting good feelings, I get tons o' energy. I was kicking around nearly all night long. Around the fire, in front of the DJ, down to the water and back again. Bopping and grinning... THE DISCOVERY: Leslie and I discovered the bones of the elusive Treeasaurus on that beach. The Treeasaurus was the dominant life form during the Driftocene era. We discovered several bones including a tooth. We determined that the Treeasauruses were the greatest lovers of that era. In fact, we determined the the tooth was probably ripped out during a particularly intense sexual encounter between two Treeasaurs. It's a well known fact that the Treeasaurs, as they evolved, took sex to it's ultimate, slow, funky groove. In fact, their descendants, the trees, are having sex all the time around us, but at this point it goes so slowly we can't see it. One day the entire earth will shudder slightly and all the trees will be seen shortly afterwards smoking huge cigarettes... THE HAMSTAS: I get home to find that the hamstas have cut loose as well. Coming up the stairs I passed several bleary eyed hamstas with little rolled up sleeping bags and backpacks on their way out. I go inside and look around. Apparently I left the glass door open and they discovered it. Of course the balcony was the perfect spot for a tiny little new moon rave, so they called all their friends (not easy - it takes two of them to work the phone) and the lugged all their equipment out onto the balcony. When I got home, there were tiny sleeping bags and tents all over the balcony, two little altars decorated with peanuts, sesame seeds, and little bits of incense, and a small group of very tired hamstas still bopping in a tight group next to the turntables. A handful of them had scaled the railing and were sitting on top of it watching the sun come up, wiggling their pink toes and cleaning each other. It all looked very cozy and cool, so I left them to it and went to bed. Thank you all. S From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 09:13:12 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA06958; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:13:12 -0700 Received: from franc.ucdavis.edu by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA06951; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:13:02 -0700 Received: from smtp.ucdavis.edu by franc.ucdavis.edu (8.7.5/UCD3.5.4) id JAA18051; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606171612.JAA18051@franc.ucdavis.edu> X-Sender: szriffle@peseta.ucdavis.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.1.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Rick Riffle Subject: Orion...so much potential (long) Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk This was a sad story of so much potential, but not the power to pull it off. We get to the space around 7 pm to set up the ambient room. There are no lights in the building. There is a generator the size of a small pickup truck sitting infront of the building. We set up in the dark. By 9 pm, the generator is running, and we have lights. Extension cords running all over the ceilings, bring power to every corner of the space....all from one big generator. They are planning to run three rooms with this generator. I had spoken to one of the promoters the day before, and he asked me how much power does all of our live equipment need to run. I did not know, but told him what we had. Turns out the power needs for the whole show were underestimated. The space was great. Hot, but nice otherwise. Three spacious rooms, one big rectangle with a high ceiling, One medium size rectangle in the center (perfect ambient space), and one odd shaped large room with occasional pillers. The space was great, but the owner hasn't had the power switched on yet for some reason. So we get the ambient space set up, and everyone else sets up the other rooms. RE: C-Lab and Astronout set up all of thier live equipment, and all is ready to go. The ambient space walls are lined with couches and chairs, and the floor is carpeted. Because of the length of the speaker wire, the amp rack has to sit out in the middle of the room. So we put chairs around it and a fan on top creating a small island. It looked quite nice. It's about 10pm, and people are beginning to arrive. Then the Po Po arrive. "Shut it down", "no party" are the words we hear. I begin to meditate trying to bring some peaceful energy into the space. The cops leave, and are supposed to come back and do a walk through to see that there is no alcohol, and nothing is being sold. The party is supposed to be a "free" (ya right) going-away party for some people going to Europe. Nothing is to be sold at the party. All water and smart drinks are free (and they kept that promise :) The cops don't come, and they don't call for a really long time. The decision is made to move the party to an outdoor location about 45 minutes away. We break down all of the equipment in record time, and wait for directions. After 20 minutes, it is announced that the cops are on thier way to walk through the space for the original plan. The do, and make funny comments about having flash-backs from thier youth....good sign. The pary is given the go ahead for the original space. We set-up all of the equipment in record time (have'nt we done this before?) The party starts. The hard room is just that, hard. Way to hard, and way to fast for my taste. It sounded like that were playing 130 bpm records that are supposed to be on 33and 1/3, and playing them on 45. Even stuff with vocals. I heard many chipmunk sounding lyrics. Not into it at all. The main room was loud with good sound. The stuff I heard briefly was alot more housy. It was cool for the less than five minutes I spent in it. The ambient room is my headquarters, so I spent most of the time in there. Here's where everything started to suck royally. Every 10 minuets or so, our main power strip would blow out. We were drawing too much power from our equipment. Now for the turntables, this was not too much of a problem, cuz when the power comes back on, you just push start. But for live equipment, this is bad. Everything is run off of disks. Songs and sounds have to be loaded into the machines for them to play. You can't just turn them back on and hit start. Well, we never made it through an entire song without the power dipping then darkness. This happened about four times, then they decided to shut down the main room cuz it was drawing like 10,000 watts. We tried one more song and like clockwork, just when it was building and getting good, darkness..."FUCK" We gave up, and packed up all the equipment. By the time we were done, the whole party was cancelled. I heard that the promotors were going to throw a free party on Saturday at the outdoor space mentioned earlier, but I don't know if it happened. I feel sorry for everyone involved: promotors, dj's, artists, and guests because everyone was out something. The guests all paid money to get in, I'm sure the promotors lost some money on the party, we had to set up our equipment twice and never got to play, the dj's had no chance to create any sort of vibe cuz every the music would zap off every other song. I guess the promotors can be blamed for not taking enough in to concideration beforehand, but I know these people, and they are respectable. Thier first party "Synthetic" went off big time many months ago, and "Orion" had all the potential to top the first one. I know they personally felt really bad about the whole thing. They did give away water and smoothies all night, which helped with the heat quite a bit. I'll definately give them another chance, and hope any of you who attended will as well. Rick From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 09:20:06 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA07534; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:20:06 -0700 Received: from toaster by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA07503; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:20:00 -0700 Received: from waffle.berksys.com by toaster via ESMTP (951211.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH1042/951211.SGI) for id JAA14896; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:17:28 -0700 Received: from cohara.berksys.com (mactech.berksys.com [192.216.218.207]) by waffle.berksys.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA22383 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:13:45 -0700 Message-Id: <2.2.32.19960617162317.006a05bc@mail.berksys.com> X-Sender: cohara@mail.berksys.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:23:17 -0700 To: sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Ciaran Subject: summer solstice & the chemical brothers Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Okay, I'm probably getting this message in "a little early" but : It's the summer solstice this Friday but one of my faves The Chemical Brothers are playing that night in the Trocadero. Is there any solstice celebrations parties happening that i can join after the show ? Outdoors, of course. KironO From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 09:24:10 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA07932; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:24:10 -0700 Received: from dfw.dfw.net by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id JAA07927; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:24:05 -0700 Received: by dfw.dfw.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03539; Mon, 17 Jun 96 11:22:17 CDT Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:22:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Aleph One To: Paul Abramson Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: *** NEW MOON.... initial response *** In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Paul Abramson wrote: > Ha! The first one back to e-mail.... :) :) > > New Moon was just as transcendent as I had hoped for.. crystal clear > stars, crashing waves in the morning, happy smiling ravers, lots of love, > and the kicker: some amazing goa from Tom around 9:30am that totally got > us out of our head (thanks jess!!). What I miss the GOA set?! NOOO!!! Oh well... should have sticked aroudn longer but I was to tired. Indeed they New Moon was great. Love to all those I saw there. > I'm a little overwhelmed, so I think we'll just head to Sunset and maybe > check out Hardsequncer (again!) at Spundae tonight. He was great on > friday!! > > Take care, and LOL....the summer has really begun!! (a few days early, > even)... see you at the Solstice! > > 8-) Paul 8-D > (and Tom and Shawna) > > Aleph One / aleph1@dfw.net http://underground.org/ KeyID 1024/948FD6B5 Fingerprint EE C9 E8 AA CB AF 09 61 8C 39 EA 47 A8 6A B8 01 From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 09:40:17 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA09484; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:40:17 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA09478; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:40:14 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-120.apple.com [17.128.100.120]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id JAA158608; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:40:03 -0700 Received: from [17.130.21.170] (kip-1-170.apple.com [17.130.21.170]) by scv2.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA11542; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:40:39 -0700 Message-Id: <199606171640.JAA11542@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: Orion...so much potential (long) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 09:41:04 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "Rick Riffle" , "sfraves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk >I'll definately give them another chance, and hope any of you who attended >will as well. I'll second that!! I was in the same boat as Rick on friday in the ambient room. Had all my equiptment set up and ready to play, but never got a chance because off all the power problems. I ended up turning all my gear off for fear of power serges. And it seemed to help the power problems out a little. I met some increadible people, and made many friendships that I know will last a looooong time! And even tho the power kept going out, it was like nobody really cared. People started playing drums and eveyone was grooving and clapping and dancing in the dark together. There was a vibe there, not your typical 'rave' vibe, but a vibe of 'we're here with a bunch of really cool people and we're going to have fun no matter what happens'. For me, it was wonderfull, my first raving experience in Sacramento, and I had a better time than I have had at the last couple of SF parties I've been to. I just want to thank Rick and Eric of Re: for inviting me to play with them. Hopefully sometime soon we can do it again. And the Orion crew for giving it their all. Like Rick said, the potential was there, put the Electricity wasnt. -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 09:42:28 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA09643; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:42:28 -0700 Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA09635; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:42:25 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA07975; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:42:24 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606171642.JAA07975@netcom10.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Review: New Moon Rave To: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: <199606170350.UAA01732@shellx.best.com> from "SDream" at Jun 16, 96 08:50:39 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1152 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi SDream/SFRaves - I agree with everything I can remember about SDream's review of the New Moon party this last SAturday. Great people and environment - far walk bwteen parking place and site. But , that distance I believe helped us from getting busted, so it was all for the good. Dodge those waves! My memory of the night is a bit disjointed, as for many periods I was a brown blanket covered lump on a white tarp. I did managed to make myself useful by starting the fire, also I was the guy passing out chocolate chip cookies at one point. We must have been meant to be there, because the weather was so kind to us! I can't complain about the temperature - I should have brought warmer trousers and a REAL sleeping bag instead of just my army blanket. My thanks to all the great music from the DJs - Can someone post the actual names and sequence of DJs? It was nice to hear Jim Cyr (spelling?) spinn for the first time - nice stuff! I staggered off "early" before 9AM, so I didn't get to hear the Goa set. Durn! A big THANK YOU to all concerned with the planning and execution of this party! Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 09:49:29 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id JAA10305; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:49:29 -0700 Received: from netcom10.netcom.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id JAA10298; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:49:27 -0700 Received: (from larryc@localhost) by netcom10.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id JAA08485; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:48:54 -0700 From: larryc@netcom.com (Larry Ching) Message-Id: <199606171648.JAA08485@netcom10.netcom.com> Subject: Re: Dance Del*Sol To: scott_nozawa@quickmail.apple.com (Scott Nozawa) Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: sfraves@hyperreal.com In-Reply-To: from "Scott Nozawa" at Jun 12, 96 02:46:52 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 743 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk [ to Scott Nozawa/Tamotsu/SFRaves ] > For all you Southbay folks, there is going to be a FREE party in > Hellyer Park in San Jose. Sunday, June 16th is the date and it will run > from Noon til Dusk. The Djs will be: Rick Preston, Harry Who?, > Ryan Tapia, Tamotsu, Joseph, Mark Johns, Marc Chavez, and Sean. Come on > out and enjoy the sun and some good music. Bring some happy vibes and a > friend and let's get San Jose rockin'!!! > > Hellyer Park San Jose > Yerba Buena Site > 408*236 *3732 for directions So , how did this party go? After Father-In-Law's Day events, I tried to make it to the party, but the Park Service had the gates closed to incoming cars by the time I got there! Larry Ching/larryc@netcom.com From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 10:21:19 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA13573; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:21:19 -0700 Received: from xinet.COM by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA13566; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:21:16 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora by xinet.COM via ESMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) id KAA03494; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:21:01 -0700 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199606170350.UAA01732@shellx.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:20:55 -0800 To: SDream@tgrigsby.com (SDream), sfraves@hyperreal.com From: Tony Rotundo Subject: Re: Review: New Moon Rave 6/15/96 Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Nice post! :^) At 8:50 PM -0700 6/16/96, SDream wrote: >THE BAD: First let me say, this location was WAY THE HELL OUT THERE! Dang, >folks, surely there's got to be a spot like this a little closer to Frisco. No, there doesn't. You see, maybe Goat Rock is so sacred *because* you need to struggle first to get there. The spot that you danced at, had such a wonderful time at, and discovered your first Treeasaurus at :^), is a place that just may grown in your heart long after the party. You will feel drawn there, like the moon tugging at the tides. I drove down Rt. 1 from Mendocin, tired, dizzy, slowly (2 1/2 hrs.) ...the moment I saw "the rock" (from the North, above), I got chills. As soon as I saw that there were still cars there, I knew exactly what I would find. And I found it, dancing, smiling, happy. >Driving up to San Fran is bad enough. Having to drive another hour and 1/2 >beyond that is HELL. And that was the *only* thing bad about this rave. Hmmm...maybe that's not fair, but I'm sure the New Moon collective will forgive you. Maybe that party would be so special somewhere else, but I don't see how. Anyway, I'm sure ears are open for sacred spots around Santa Cruz (?) that a butt-load of cars can park over night (over a weekend!) without getting tickets unless they have outdated registration, and where we can dance and party to loud music until we decide it's time to end. Peace! Tone From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 10:22:58 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA13767; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:22:58 -0700 Received: from itsa.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA13757; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:22:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (pabrams@localhost) by itsa.ucsf.EDU (8.6.8/GSC4.24) with SMTP id KAA110638 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:22:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:22:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Abramson Reply-To: Paul Abramson To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: yikes. a break from sleep. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk well, I'm somehow up and awake so here's more pseudo-review rambling in the after-glow..... Friday. 12:00 noon. Finish last exam. Head to a party. Bored with people drinking. Say bye. ;) 3pm. On Bart to Bezerkeley to round out my rave closet. 10pm. Dash to Nikita with Sarah et al to get in free...! Saturday 3am. Am completely blown away by Hardsequencer and Westbam. It's fast. Creative. Not too crowded and lots of room to dance wildly. Thomas provides excellent running commentary about the latest gossip from the German techno scene. 6am. What? It's morning? 6:30am. EndUp. Eek!!! 8am. Decompression time. Visit farmers market with a beautiful friend. Luxuriate in a succulent apricot. Sigh... 3pm?? Still awake, madly making phone calls. :) 6pm. Hmm. I did something here, but it didn't imprint.. (?) 8pm. Assemble gear for the trip to Goat Rock. 9pm-11pm. Drive confusedly around the city with Shawna and Tom *trying* to leave. Finally hit the bridge. Sunday 2am. In heaven at New Moon. AAaaaahhhhhhhhh...... The stars are popping out of the sky. 10am. Somehow transcend heaven while sweating and juggling to Tom's goa set. Jess and I break out into a morning aerobics routine to make sure we don't get flabby. ;-> Eat half a package of Chips Ahoy for breakfast. 12 noon? Leave Goat Rock on a cloud. 2pm. Tom and I have an interminable adventure in a photo shop. Emerge dazed and amused. What? You can't buy film on the west coast? 4pm. Arrive at Sunset. Wheeeee! Am somehow not disturbed by house music for the first time. The trees are bubbling, Julie! Dance dance dance dance dance pizza dance dance dance. 9pm. What? The sun set already?!? 11pm. Hmm... Hardsequencer... Hmmm.... to Spundae it is!!! Monday 2am. Hmm. Is my body kidding or is it really telling me to fuck off? Ouch!!! Hardsequencer is somewhat less inspired than on Friday. Dance wildly. Smile at everyone. 3am. Head hits pillow. Full stop. I can't express my bliss properly right now. The amount of positive, loving energy I experienced this weekend pretty much blew my mind. Not to mention a proper dose of really hard, fast fast fast beats here and there. :) With love and admiration, Paul From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 10:42:05 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id KAA15920; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:42:05 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id KAA15908; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:42:01 -0700 Received: from scv2.apple.com (A17-128-100-120.apple.com [17.128.100.120]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id KAA98048; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:41:49 -0700 Received: from [17.130.21.170] (kip-1-170.apple.com [17.130.21.170]) by scv2.apple.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA10316; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 10:42:26 -0700 Message-Id: <199606171742.KAA10316@scv2.apple.com> Subject: Re: Dance Del*Sol Date: Mon, 17 Jun 96 10:42:51 -0000 x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: "Mark D. Camp" To: "Larry Ching" , "Scott Nozawa" cc: "sfraves" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk > So , how did this party go? It was great!! A perfect Sunday afternoon in the park. My housemate and I arrived around 2 or so. There were already about 20 people there. There were a couple of footballs and frisbee's being thrown around so we joined in on the fun. Lots of dogs, including two of the cutest and smallest chiwawa's (SP?) i've ever seen. It was a match made in heaven for these two dogs. They were chasing the footballs that were about twice their size. I finnally got to meet fellow Apple employee Tomotsu (wussup man!!) . My roommate and I brought our bikes and found a couple of fun trails in the park. We ended up at this BMX bike track with jumps from hell. There were a couple of kids on BMX bikes there that were jumping at least 10 feet in the air. A little too crazy for me. Back at the picnick grounds the music was still going when we left at 8pm. I wanted to see Derick Carter and Quench last night, but when I got home, I was so tired I Imediatly fell asleep. How was it?? -M ***ASTRONOUT*** sounds textures beats From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 11:32:33 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA21103; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:33 -0700 Received: from horatio.ucsf.EDU by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with ESMTP id LAA21093; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:30 -0700 Received: (from knegtel@localhost) by horatio.ucsf.EDU (940816.SGI.8.6.9/GSC4.24) id LAA07875 for sfraves@hyperreal.com; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:23 -0700 From: "Ronald Knegtel" Message-Id: <9606171132.ZM7873@horatio.ucsf.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:32:22 -0700 In-Reply-To: Tony Rose "top 10!" (Jun 15, 4:27am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Re: top 10! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk On Jun 15, 4:27am, Tony Rose wrote: > Subject: top 10! > signs that youve just danced your ass off to the hottest set of your > life... > I guess I need help with this one! :) > > (hi frying dutchman!) Hi Tony, it was great meeting you at Nikita (my first sfraver encounter!), we talked about the most diverse set of topics, ranging from antcolonies, neural nets to Utah while "compiling" in the outdoor chill out. Haven't had a conversation like that while partying in a while! By the way, Westbam/Hardsequencer rocked which brings me to my contribution to your top 10: > 1. ??? > 1. ??? > 1. ??? > 1. At the end of the evening, ambulance personel is required to extract your head from the speaker box. > 1. smiles smiles smiles! > 1. you begin to wonder where you learned the amazing footwork you are > doing. > 1. you are so into the groove...eyes closed...hands waving crazily in the > air...you lookk around and everyone else is waving their hands crazily in > the air too > 1. for two days afterwards you are hearing music in your head > 1. when the music stopped...no one stops dancing > 1. even your underwear are dripping with sweat. and 1. (real story from my early days): there is a salt deposition on your trousers from the sweat that evaporated from you. > > * * ** *** ***** ******** ************* ****************** > Paul Anthony Rose > UC Berkeley Computer Science/ Mathematics > http://violet.berkeley.edu/~trose > TRANCE_HARDER--DEEPER--FASTER > ****************** ************* ******** ***** *** ** * * >-- End of excerpt from Tony Rose CU out there or drop me an E-mail when you're going out in the city (although we have to cut back a bit -> spending too much money lately + lots of work). The Frying Dutchman -- From sfraves-owner@hyperreal.com Mon Jun 17 11:45:48 1996 Received: by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) id LAA22629; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:45:48 -0700 Received: from crl.crl.com by taz.hyperreal.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id LAA22621; Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:45:44 -0700 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA04109 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for sfraves@hyperreal.com); Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:43:46 -0700 Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 11:43:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Kathryn Ankrum To: sfraves@hyperreal.com Subject: Job? (NRR) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-sfraves@hyperreal.com Precedence: bulk Hi Everyone, This is not rave-related! The company I work for, CMP, needs programming and Web gurus. I'm posting an ad that appeared in the June 9 Sunday Chronicle and Examiner to give you an idea of what they're looking for. If you're interested, please send me a private email, and I'll give you the details on how to apply. Also, feel free to pass this on to anyone else you think might be interested. Kathryn ___________________________ Pioneering Web Project CMP Media Inc. has put together a team of technical, editorial, and artistic professionals and is looking for a few more people to help build a state of the art Web site using all the latest technology! C++ Programmers Should have several years' experience architecting and programming large object oriented systems, Java programming experience helpful, database knowledge desirable, Internet and Unix expertise a plus. Sr. Unix System Adm