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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:54:30 -0500, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

> thats still quite new dude


Not for the US.

And I know Scotto, why wouldn't I go to his party?







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> On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 12:24:59 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com
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>> And THAT's the reason why I'm debating on going....didn't you start
>> going to parties in like 98??
>
>
> Jan of 1995.
>
>
> Try again.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID - Sample: "Your love is on my mind"

It's not hotmail's fault - you shouldn't put spaces in URL's - they're not
allowed!

This should work (watch any wrap round though!):
http://members.iinet.net.au/~ian_soord/Music/Konspiracy%20-%20Your%20Love.mp3

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> You'll have to copy and past the entire link. Hotmail has dropped off the
> 'your love.mp3' part.
> Nuisance!!
>
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~ian_soord/music/konspiracy - your love.mp3
>
> Cheers!!
> :)
>
> >From: "Dj Choonz" <dj_choonz@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: (oldschool) Tune ID - Sample: "Your love is on my mind"
> >Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 10:47:00 +0800
> >
> >Lads,
> >Circa 92/93 there was a mellowish hardcore tune that had the following
sped
> >up vocal samples:
> >"Your love is on my mind" - female
> >"missing you" - female
> >"I return, when the Dj returns" "respect, intellect....." (or something
> >like that) - male
> >
> >The tune I believe is called 'Your Love' and its the 'Original Mix'. (No
> >its not Prodigy)
> >
> >I've located the 'Your love...' sample in a tune titled after the sample
> >ie. "Your Love Is On My Mind"
> >by Konspiracy, on Ruff Quality Records. Unfortunately its not this tune
and
> >there are no other versions that I could find.
> >
> >Can I ask ya's to have a listen to the sample below. Its only 77kb in
size.
> >http://members.iinet.net.au/~ian_soord/Music/Konspiracy - Your Love.mp3
> >
> >If anyone knows which tune Im after or can offer some suggestions, please
> >let me know.
> >
> >Cheers!!
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) NASA

So as somebody stated earlier are you as really big as you say you are?
Don't get me wrong every body has to big them self's up as nobody else will
usually.

If you are as big as you the impression u portray your are and your terms
you have just said then fair play as a lot of big Djs are just money
grabbing egotistical types (with the exceptions of course)

Just curious that all.

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:16:05 +0100, Chris_Reason
<chris@feeling-of-life.com> wrote:

> Entropy what you charging for a set these days


Eh, whatever, get me there, get me a room, get me some food and beer, and
if ya make money, give me some; that's how I've pretty much always been.


> and who manages u???


Me.  :)





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID - Sample: "Your love is on my mind"

Link doesnt work mate, even after pasting it all back together.
Its bringing up 404 not found

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

> Yup.  I charge as much as Hardcore dictates is as fair for me to make.
> Right now, that isn't really much.

What factors do you base that on then?
Ive been playing out since 92 and cant really remember anything that has
made me think how much i should be charging!
BUT, ive never charged to play anyway....

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:08:52 +0100, Dest <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> 
wrote:

>> Yup.  I charge as much as Hardcore dictates is as fair for me to make.
>> Right now, that isn't really much.
>
> What factors do you base that on then?


If it's a big happy hardcore party with a 30dollar door, then I expect 
SOMETHING.

But that hasn't been the case since 98 or so.




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID - Sample: "Your love is on my mind"

Replace the spaces with "%20" (without the quotes) and it works OK.
I don't know the tune though.
 
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> Link doesnt work mate, even after pasting it all back together.
> Its bringing up 404 not found
> 
> Dest
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Bags for sale

i fort i go wun bettah and sell a pic of a label

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4004870588&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:UK:8


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> i've got around 20 boogie times bags i found the other day, what you
reckon
> ? tenner each?
>
> ha! 31 quid for 4 plastic bags!
>
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LOL!!!

You're doing alright there I reckon.  Lets hope the wining bidder isn't
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> i fort i go wun bettah and sell a pic of a label
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fUk!!

where ye been me ol mukka

cya on saturday ;)

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hi people...been away for  couple of years. who's still on here.
Dean, the matt's, the rest of u lot...gurn monkey...just been reminising
over some old photos on the back to the odlksool site...memories...god 5
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID - Sample: "Your love is on my mind"

Doh! Sorry all.
Okay, try this one:

http://members.iinet.net.au/~ian_soord/Music/Konspiracy_YourLove.mp3


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>Link doesnt work mate, even after pasting it all back together.
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Subject: (oldschool) FAO Tim Cant


You put something about record shopping in Manchetser recently and i meant
to reply but i forgot.

You mentioned 'Venue'. Where is that? Is it good for older stuff (pre-'95
i'm on about) I never heard of it before.

I shop in Manchester every so often but only go in Vinyl Exchange, Spin Inn
& Eastern Bloc and they are not the best for old rarities.

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Subject: (oldschool) Tune ID: All Over Me sample

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Dance conspiracy - Dub War chapter 2

my fave version, and far da best imo

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID: All Over Me sample

The sound seems all f*cked up... might be worth ripping it again?
Having said that, I'm pretty sure I know the tune... but can't think of the
name at the moment... sorry!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID: All Over Me sample

Sorry - scrap that.  It's fine.
It's a loose wire from my machine!

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> The sound seems all f*cked up... might be worth ripping it again?
> Having said that, I'm pretty sure I know the tune... but can't think of
the
> name at the moment... sorry!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID: All Over Me sample

> Hi all,
> Here's another tune I need ID'd:
> 
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~ian_soord/Music/All_Over_Me.mp3

Dance Conspiracy - Dub war - Metamorphosis (Or rerelease on XL)

Cant remember which chapter it is, but its defo on that 12" :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID: All Over Me sample

Kev mate,
What are you expecting, a rip at 128kbps?
I have to keep the bit rate down for the benefit of others.
The 32kbps version is good enough.


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>The sound seems all f*cked up... might be worth ripping it again?
>Having said that, I'm pretty sure I know the tune... but can't think of the
>name at the moment... sorry!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID: All Over Me sample

See my earlier apology - I really couldn't hear a thing, it was all like
little squeaks.  But like I said, I found the loose wire at this end now.

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> Kev mate,
> What are you expecting, a rip at 128kbps?
> I have to keep the bit rate down for the benefit of others.
> The 32kbps version is good enough.
>
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> >The sound seems all f*cked up... might be worth ripping it again?
> >Having said that, I'm pretty sure I know the tune... but can't think of
the
> >name at the moment... sorry!
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Thanks Dest & pH@TB!TcH !!


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> > Hi all,
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> > http://members.iinet.net.au/~ian_soord/Music/All_Over_Me.mp3
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>Dance Conspiracy - Dub war - Metamorphosis (Or rerelease on XL)
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>Cant remember which chapter it is, but its defo on that 12" :)
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Subject: (oldschool) One last Tune ID

Last one for the night!! ;)

More on a tecno tip this one. Samples LL Cool J's 'Mama Said Knock You Out"
Circa 92/93

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prodigy will be start playing the oldskool rave circut (raindance/flashback
etc) do all their old tracks and stage show along with all orginal members..
 
 
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NO FUCKING WAY

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Cmon that's a crap april fools joke....I mean would you leave the house
if you were married to an Appleton sister??
Clarkee
Jealous as hell
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> You mentioned 'Venue'. Where is that? Is it good for older stuff (pre-'95
> i'm on about) I never heard of it before.

Er, if I did it was a mistake, soz!!! I shop at Factory and Vinyl Exchange.
Sometimes oxfam have a d&b tune in the dance section, I also did a trawl of
the charity shops and king bee records in chorlton but it was naff (though
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> NO FUCKING WAY
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> they must be skint, unless this is a huge lie

1/4/04 :P


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waaaaaaaaaaaa april fools day waaaaaaaaaaaaaa 

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prodigy will be start playing the oldskool rave circut (raindance/flashback
etc) do all their old tracks and stage show along with all orginal members..
 
 
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OK, no probs.

Factory is the one near VE, E Bloc and Spin Inn isn't it?

Picked up a couble of bits from King Bee once but its more out of luck than
anything else with that place.

Pretty sad there are no little goldmines in a place the size of Manc!

Oli

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> You mentioned 'Venue'. Where is that? Is it good for older stuff (pre-'95
> i'm on about) I never heard of it before.

Er, if I did it was a mistake, soz!!! I shop at Factory and Vinyl Exchange.
Sometimes oxfam have a d&b tune in the dance section, I also did a trawl of
the charity shops and king bee records in chorlton but it was naff (though
did get That kicksquad tune for £2.50 in King Bee, nice)



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DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 03:05:48 +0100, Chris_F.O.L 
wrote:

Wow - your wit has astounded me, Ian... 'he / she / it' ???  Nothing like calling someone names to make yourself sound incredibly intelligent and to show how right you are on the subject.  For the record...I am female.


> So as somebody stated earlier are you as really big as you say you are?
Yes, of course.


No you aren't, Ian....like I said - you DO NOT play in new york.  I live in NY, I have partied all over the East Coast from Vermont to Detroit to Miami and pretty much everywhere in between.  My friends are major promoters in NY and well-known DJ's from California to New York.  You are not a known person or DJ - and like I said - if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these lists, then I wouldn't know who you are either.  I personally used to throw parties...never heard of you on that circuit.  So, stop talking all your shit to these people overseas who don't know you and you can fool into believing that you're a big name dj.  You are nobody....you do not play in the United States...and if you can prove me wrong, please do.  If you are so good (america's #1 hardcore dj & producer, right?) then you should be playing at (at least) 3 MAJOR events in the next month....please let me know what events you will be at in April so you can prove to me, and everyone else you've been
 bullshitting, that you were right.  Otherwise, just be yourself and stop lying to make people like you...thats a pretty pathetic route to take.  And makes you look the fool.

 



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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Clarkee wrote:

> Cmon that's a crap april fools joke....I mean would you leave the house
> if you were married to an Appleton sister??
> Clarkee
> Jealous as hell
> Northampton

Wow, some of those Britisms aren't making sense to these Yank ears. Is
[oldschool] a UK centric listserve?

Had to look up the Appleton reference. FYI (directed at me State mates),
they were in All Saints who never quite caught on here in the States.
Guess they might be the equivalent of Jessica Simpson who some like to
look at but is apparently not much brighter than a burnt out lightbulb.

BTW, had to look up "skint" too.
1. broke, bust, skint, stone-broke, stony-broke -- (lacking funds;
"`skint' is a British slang term")

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hehe...thanks for the english lesson  =)
 
Didn't realize you were on this list as well...I heard of All Saints...they had one mellow song about being treated bad, but that's as far as they ever got over here.  All the chicks were def smokin tho.
 
Kinda figured out what skint meant...based on the context it was used.  I have learned alot of 'britisms' since I've joined.  It's actually quite amusing.

jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Clarkee wrote:

> Cmon that's a crap april fools joke....I mean would you leave the house
> if you were married to an Appleton sister??
> Clarkee
> Jealous as hell
> Northampton

Wow, some of those Britisms aren't making sense to these Yank ears. Is
[oldschool] a UK centric listserve?

Had to look up the Appleton reference. FYI (directed at me State mates),
they were in All Saints who never quite caught on here in the States.
Guess they might be the equivalent of Jessica Simpson who some like to
look at but is apparently not much brighter than a burnt out lightbulb.

BTW, had to look up "skint" too.
1. broke, bust, skint, stone-broke, stony-broke -- (lacking funds;
"`skint' is a British slang term")

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> Cmon that's a crap april fools joke....I mean would you leave the house
>if you were married to an Appleton sister??

LOL!!!


>Clarkee
>Jealous as hell
>Northampton
>
>
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>
>prodigy will be start playing the oldskool rave circut
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>members..
> 
> 
>www.pukkadawn.com
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> Wow - your wit has astounded me, Ian... 'he / she / it' ???

I don't think it was supposed to be wit.  It's just you never sign any of
your posts... are we all meant to be psychic or something?

Well OK I'll have a guess... Kelly?

I remember you did sign some posts a while back, and as far as I can
remember your total contribution to this list ever has been posts slagging
off Entropy.  Give it a rest, will you?  Now I'm sure you think I've been
brainwashed into liking him by his lies or something, but to be honest I'd
much rather read one of his posts in general 'cos he sometimes actually has
something to say other than "I hate X".

He keeps us endlessly amused with his bragging about being the best DJ in
the world and his terrible guitared-up remixes.  Yes we know he's full of
shit half the time (no offence, Entropy :o) but it's better than having
nothing to say except some slagging off that would be much better done in
private.

He is certainly passionate about hardcore, and puts himself out to try to do
something for the crew - e.g. Tune of the Day, his downloadable LP, etc.

>  you DO NOT play in new york.
What's so great about New York?
Population of NYC: 18 Million (ish)
Population of USA: 290 Million (ish)

That leaves plenty room outside of NY to be the greatest harcore producer in
the US, no?

And who cares, anyway?  Only small-minded losers who think that being more
popular than someone else makes them a better person when in fact everyone
thinks they're a bitter, twisted self-obsessed prick.  Get a sense of
humour - Entropy has one or there's no way he'd stay on this list taking the
shit he does in such a good-natured way.

> I live in NY, I have partied all over the East Coast from Vermont to
Detroit to Miami and pretty much everywhere in between.  My friends are
major promoters in NY and well-known DJ's from California to New York.

Woo-hoo for you.
BORING.
[For anyone who remembers Lister from "Big Night Out": "You can't treat me
like that... my friends are Doctors and Lawyers"]

> if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these lists, then I wouldn't
know who you are either.

Isn't that the point of the internet - anonymity and the chance to create
whatever persona you like?  Ask any paedo (sorry to anyone who might be
offended by this comment).

If you only know him from some internet lists then I really can't see how
you can be so down on him - learn to use your e-mail client and block his
address if you find it all so offensive.  Or just don't sign up for his
lists in the first place.

> I personally used to throw parties...
So what?  Ian and a bunch of other people on here still do.
Are you too busy worrying about what all the jumped-up youngsters might
think to find time to throw parties any more?  Or did people stop coming to
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I know its not their fault they were too young.  But, theres so many parties in the area.  My point before was that you wouldn't go to a high school reunion for a school you didn't attend, right?  Why go to a reunion for a party that you never went to?
 
Granted, Scotto should def not have it all ages if he wanted it to be a true nasa reunion, but he's in it for the money...he has money invested and he doesnt want to lose it. I dont blame him for that at all.  And maybe he wants the kids now to see what it was like...but I just feel like it will just be like any other party if everyone can go.  It will not have the same feel that parties had back then...it has changed.  And not for the better.
 
I don't see it as politics...I see it as just giving us oldskoolers one night to see if the magic is still there at all...or if it is dying out.  When DB spun at the Limelight about 2 years ago...he was playing ALL the classics.  These damn kids were standing around NOT dancing....not enjoying the music.  I was screaming at them to fucking (scuse the ol french) DANCE dammit.  Why are they going to come?  I want to be able to dance to the music with others who love the music so much, that they feel like they are going to jump out of their skin from the 1st three notes.  I want to be with people who will reminisce about when the stage was there - and the hallway was mirrored and painted florescent and was blacklit - and the backroom had bars above the seating area that you can sit behind - and Barbara Jean was the bathroom attendant - and Boyd worked the VIP area.  THATS what a reunion is about - memories and seeing where the people are now that you met back then.
 
Sorry for the rant, but I'm quite passionate about this...It's still not definite whether I'm going or not...but, if it was like I described it, I would be there in a heartbeat.  The fact that kids who never went there are lining up to go, is a deterrant.  Sorry if that makes me snooty...it's my opinion.
 
kelly.
 


Chris_Reason <chris@feeling-of-life.com> wrote:
Who cares just go out and get on one.
It's not peeps fault that they were too young in the good old days, at least
they got in to it and help carry the vibe on.

Id go to a reunion party even if I've never been before it all depends
what's on offer, so what.

Party politics are wank m8, aint it about the old Peace Love Unity thingy.

Lots of us Brits on hear have been about pretty much since day one of it
all, but all that tells us is that we were lucky as must of us were probably
young at the time.

Just keep it real.

Chris :)


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Agreeed, just give it a rest, it just makes it seem like you are very bitter and twisted, although it has been entertaining reading;-)


> > Wow - your wit has astounded me, Ian... 'he / she / it' ???
>
>I don't think it was supposed to be wit.  It's just you never sign any of
>your posts... are we all meant to be psychic or something?
>
>Well OK I'll have a guess... Kelly?
>
>I remember you did sign some posts a while back, and as far as I can
>remember your total contribution to this list ever has been posts slagging
>off Entropy.  Give it a rest, will you?  Now I'm sure you think I've been
>brainwashed into liking him by his lies or something, but to be honest I'd
>much rather read one of his posts in general 'cos he sometimes actually has
>something to say other than "I hate X".
>
>He keeps us endlessly amused with his bragging about being the best DJ in
>the world and his terrible guitared-up remixes.  Yes we know he's full of
>shit half the time (no offence, Entropy :o) but it's better than having
>nothing to say except some slagging off that would be much better done in
>private.
>
>He is certainly passionate about hardcore, and puts himself out to try to do
>something for the crew - e.g. Tune of the Day, his downloadable LP, etc.
>
>  you DO NOT play in new york.
>What's so great about New York?
>Population of NYC: 18 Million (ish)
>Population of USA: 290 Million (ish)
>
>That leaves plenty room outside of NY to be the greatest harcore producer in
>the US, no?
>
>And who cares, anyway?  Only small-minded losers who think that being more
>popular than someone else makes them a better person when in fact everyone
>thinks they're a bitter, twisted self-obsessed prick.  Get a sense of
>humour - Entropy has one or there's no way he'd stay on this list taking the
>shit he does in such a good-natured way.
>
> I live in NY, I have partied all over the East Coast from Vermont to
>Detroit to Miami and pretty much everywhere in between.  My friends are
>major promoters in NY and well-known DJ's from California to New York.
>
>Woo-hoo for you.
>BORING.
>[For anyone who remembers Lister from "Big Night Out": "You can't treat me
>like that... my friends are Doctors and Lawyers"]
>
> if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these lists, then I wouldn't
>know who you are either.
>
>Isn't that the point of the internet - anonymity and the chance to create
>whatever persona you like?  Ask any paedo (sorry to anyone who might be
>offended by this comment).
>
>If you only know him from some internet lists then I really can't see how
>you can be so down on him - learn to use your e-mail client and block his
>address if you find it all so offensive.  Or just don't sign up for his
>lists in the first place.
>
> I personally used to throw parties...
>So what?  Ian and a bunch of other people on here still do.
>Are you too busy worrying about what all the jumped-up youngsters might
>think to find time to throw parties any more?  Or did people stop coming to
>them because all you ever do is bitch?
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) just heard the news

All saints also did a really awful cover of "under the bridge" by the
red hot chili peppers with the lyrics slightly altered to be about
London instead of LA.

Rubbish.

Count Chrissy Von Katzenellenbogen
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Clarkee wrote:

> Cmon that's a crap april fools joke....I mean would you leave the
house
> if you were married to an Appleton sister??
> Clarkee
> Jealous as hell
> Northampton

Wow, some of those Britisms aren't making sense to these Yank ears. Is
[oldschool] a UK centric listserve?

Had to look up the Appleton reference. FYI (directed at me State mates),
they were in All Saints who never quite caught on here in the States.
Guess they might be the equivalent of Jessica Simpson who some like to
look at but is apparently not much brighter than a burnt out lightbulb.

BTW, had to look up "skint" too.
1. broke, bust, skint, stone-broke, stony-broke -- (lacking funds;
"`skint' is a British slang term")

Jasper

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WASHINGTON (March 31) - A U.S.-Canadian drug trafficking ring believed 
responsible for 15 percent of all the Ecstasy smuggled into America has been wiped 
out, authorities said Wednesday. They announced arrests and criminal charges 
against 170 people.
At its height, the ring distributed 1 million Ecstasy tablets per month in 
the two countries and laundered $5 million a month using travel agencies and 
bank transfers in the United States and Vietnam, officials said.
Drug Enforcement Administration chief Karen Tandy said the two-year 
investigation culminated in the arrests of nearly the entire trafficking operation, 
from leaders to couriers.
''We wiped out this entire organization,'' Tandy said at a news conference.
Ecstasy, or MDMA, is a synthetic controlled substance known originally as a 
''club drug'' because of its popularity at gatherings called ''raves'' and 
dance clubs. It has spread to high schools and colleges, with an estimated 3.2 
million people using the drug in 2002, according to the DEA.
It was once thought of as a harmless drug. But research has found that 
prolonged, heavy use of Ecstasy can cause confusion, depression, anxiety, aggressive 
and impulsive behavior, and memory loss, according to the National Institute 
on Drug Abuse.
Its popularity has caught the attention of an increasing range of criminal 
enterprises, largely because of the big profits. Pills sold at about $4 apiece 
wholesale in the operation typically cost $15 to $20 each on the street.
The organization targeted by U.S. and Canadian authorities consisted largely 
of people with Asian backgrounds, according to court documents. The alleged 
ringleaders were Ze Wai Wong, 46, a Chinese citizen, and Mai Phuong Le, 38, a 
Vietnamese citizen. Wong was arrested in Toronto and Le in Ottawa.
They operated three labs in Canada, which were discovered and dismantled in 
August, authorities said. The pills often were smuggled across the U.S. border 
or inside Canada in compartments within vehicle gas tanks, making the drugs 
hard to detect, particularly for drug-sniffing dogs.
The Supreme Court on Tuesday unanimously ruled that government agents have 
broad authority to search and even dismantle vehicle gas tanks to combat 
smuggling at U.S. borders.
The ring also used hidden gas tank compartments to transport cash. In one 
instance, the search of a vehicle headed for Canada in Burlington, Vt., yielded 
$750,000 in U.S. currency concealed in the compartment.
Authorities said the Wong-Le organization differs from previous Ecstasy 
trafficking groups because it is the first known to have manufactured the pills on 
a large scale in North America. The main sources of Ecstasy previously have 
been the Netherlands and Belgium.
These methods, said Deputy Attorney General James Comey, are ''a signal to us 
that, as we feared, the profits available in Ecstasy are attracting new 
traffickers and new ways of trafficking.''
U.S. and Canadian charging documents accuse Wong of leading a drug 
distribution ring in 18 U.S. cities and Canada and contend that Le orchestrated the 
laundering of drug money for the operation. They and the others are charged with a 
lengthy list of counts including conspiracy to distribute Ecstasy and 
operating a continuing criminal enterprise.
The organization also trafficked in Canadian-grown marijuana, known as ''BC 
Bud,'' and was involved in identity theft and other criminal enterprises, 
officials said. Raf Souccar, drug chief for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, said 
eight marijuana-growing operations were shut down Wednesday in the Ottawa 
area.
Of those charged in arrest warrants, about 145 had been arrested as of 
Wednesday afternoon. Arrest and search warrants were executed in 16 American cities, 
with Canadian authorities serving 50 arrest warrants in Ottawa, Toronto and 
Montreal.
Arrests were made in these U.S. cities: Houston; Los Angeles; San Francisco; 
Oakland, Calif.; San Jose, Calif.; Jacksonville, Fla.; New Orleans; Baton 
Rouge, La.; Mobile, Ala.; New York; Boston; Atlanta; Alexandria, Va.; Des Moines, 
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> I know its not their fault they were too young.  But, theres so many parties in the area.  My point before was that you wouldn't go to a high school reunion for a school you didn't attend, right?  Why go to a reunion for a party that you never went to?


??? why cant someone go to a reunion partyy if they never went to the original parties? I have no idea wether he did or didn't but surely if a reunion party is to succeed they cant rely on the old regulars as many will no longer be raving! For example, the Milwaukies reunion parties they had over here for a few events (Nothing to do with the proper nihts but nevermind), I doubt many of the people at those events were original Milwaukies goers. Had the people who weren't original Milwaukies goers not turned up tho they would have lost shite loads!!






>Granted, Scotto should def not have it all ages if he wanted it to be a true nasa reunion, but he's in it for the money...he has money invested and he doesnt want to lose it. I dont blame him for that at all.  And maybe he wants the kids now to see what it was like...but I just feel like it will just be like any other party if everyone can go.  It will not have the same feel that parties had back then...it has changed.  And not for the better.
> 
>I don't see it as politics...I see it as just giving us oldskoolers one night to see if the magic is still there at all...or if it is dying out.  When DB spun at the Limelight about 2 years ago...he was playing ALL the classics.  These damn kids were standing around NOT dancing....not enjoying the music.  I was screaming at them to fucking (scuse the ol french) DANCE dammit.  Why are they going to come?  I want to be able to dance to the music with others who love the music so much, that they feel like they are going to jump out of their skin from the 1st three notes.  I want to be with people who will reminisce about when the stage was there - and the hallway was mirrored and painted florescent and was blacklit - and the backroom had bars above the seating area that you can sit behind - and Barbara Jean was the bathroom attendant - and Boyd worked the VIP area.  THATS what a reunion is about - memories and seeing where the people are now that you met back then.
> 
>Sorry for the rant, but I'm quite passionate about this...It's still not definite whether I'm going or not...but, if it was like I described it, I would be there in a heartbeat.  The fact that kids who never went there are lining up to go, is a deterrant.  Sorry if that makes me snooty...it's my opinion.
> 
>kelly.
> 
>
>
>Chris_Reason <chris@feeling-of-life.com> wrote:
>Who cares just go out and get on one.
>It's not peeps fault that they were too young in the good old days, at least
>they got in to it and help carry the vibe on.
>
>Id go to a reunion party even if I've never been before it all depends
>what's on offer, so what.
>
>Party politics are wank m8, aint it about the old Peace Love Unity thingy.
>
>Lots of us Brits on hear have been about pretty much since day one of it
>all, but all that tells us is that we were lucky as must of us were probably
>young at the time.
>
>Just keep it real.
>
>Chris :)
>
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Kev Keenoy <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com> wrote:

> Wow - your wit has astounded me, Ian... 'he / she / it' ???

I don't think it was supposed to be wit. It's just you never sign any of
your posts... are we all meant to be psychic or something?

Well OK I'll have a guess... Kelly?

I remember you did sign some posts a while back, and as far as I can
remember your total contribution to this list ever has been posts slagging
off Entropy. Give it a rest, will you? 

Actually - I have left other posts...unfortunately, Ian usually posts a comment and it winds up being about him.  As for the contradiction on your part, I do sign my posts.  Sorry if it's not enough for you, but I'm not here to please you.  A simple he / she would have been a proper thing to do...therefore, it WAS meant to be a snippy joke...and a pretty childish one at that.


He is certainly passionate about hardcore, and puts himself out to try to do
something for the crew - e.g. Tune of the Day, his downloadable LP, etc.

I agree.

> you DO NOT play in new york.
What's so great about New York?
Population of NYC: 18 Million (ish)
Population of USA: 290 Million (ish)
That leaves plenty room outside of NY to be the greatest harcore producer in
the US, no?

Yes it does...but look at the comment below that you quoted....there is alot of the US aside from those states, but he claims that he plays in the NorthEast (mainly)...I libe in the NorthEast and have YET to see his name on a flyer...whatever, if you don't play out, thats all good - but dont LIE.  I know alot of bedroom djs that are happy with who they are - they dont have to lie to other people to make themselves seem more important.  Besides...if he's the greatest hardcore producer in the US, then how come no one knows it but him?

> I live in NY, I have partied all over the East Coast from Vermont to
Detroit to Miami and pretty much everywhere in between. My friends are
major promoters in NY and well-known DJ's from California to New York.

Woo-hoo for you.
BORING.
[For anyone who remembers Lister from "Big Night Out": "You can't treat me
like that... my friends are Doctors and Lawyers"]

Oh GEEZ - thats _your_ fault for thinking I was saying it because I thought it would be 'so damn cool'.  I was saying it bc NONE of my friends heard of Entropy.  If he is the #1 hardcore DJ / producer in America, you kinda think they (being major producers and djs - they would book him and/or open for him or follow him, if he was telling the truth) would know who he is, right?  He claimed that Odi owed him a tape from 98....Odi never heard of him.  He never said he would make him a tape...so he's putting my friends credibility in the mud with his lies.

> if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these lists, then I wouldn't
know who you are either.

Isn't that the point of the internet - anonymity and the chance to create
whatever persona you like? Ask any paedo (sorry to anyone who might be
offended by this comment).

If you only know him from some internet lists then I really can't see how
you can be so down on him - learn to use your e-mail client and block his
address if you find it all so offensive. Or just don't sign up for his
lists in the first place.

HAHAHA - 1st this isn't HIS list...Dest, you are the moderator, correct?  Entropy has about as much to do with this list as anyone else does...he posts.  I did enjoy when he had the track of the day...and everyone deserves a voice...but, when someone is blatently lying, and fooling people in the meantime, then I feel that I should set the record straight.  Just as I would want anyone else to do if I was the one having the wool pulled over their eyes.

2nd...is that what you do??  Make up a persona so you could be cool on the net?  I know I don't...I am happy with who I am...sorry if you feel that you need to be someone else.  I thought the point of the net was for unlimited amount of information and to connect with parts of the world that you normally wouldn't.  But, I see why you use it...to, like entropy, lie about who you are and what you do.  Pedophiles do that - not regular people just looking to connect.

.
> I personally used to throw parties...
So what? Ian and a bunch of other people on here still do.
Are you too busy worrying about what all the jumped-up youngsters might
think to find time to throw parties any more? Or did people stop coming to
them because all you ever do is bitch?


What jumped up youngesters??  Did I say ANYTHING about jumped up younsters...don't put words into my mouth there Kev-boy.

I'm also sorry that opening your eyes to the lies of someone is bitching.  Would you like me to leave you to live in your world of deception and lies?  Then YOU block MY address...otherwise, leave it alone.  I am not the one thats lying here...why would you turn accept deception and turn away the person that is opening your eyes?

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WHoo HOoo GO k3LLY Go :)

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>
> Kev Keenoy <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com> wrote:
>
> > Wow - your wit has astounded me, Ian... 'he / she / it' ???
>
> I don't think it was supposed to be wit. It's just you never sign any of
> your posts... are we all meant to be psychic or something?
>
> Well OK I'll have a guess... Kelly?
>
> I remember you did sign some posts a while back, and as far as I can
> remember your total contribution to this list ever has been posts slagging
> off Entropy. Give it a rest, will you?
>
> Actually - I have left other posts...unfortunately, Ian usually posts a
comment and it winds up being about him.  As for the contradiction on your
part, I do sign my posts.  Sorry if it's not enough for you, but I'm not
here to please you.  A simple he / she would have been a proper thing to
do...therefore, it WAS meant to be a snippy joke...and a pretty childish one
at that.
>
>
> He is certainly passionate about hardcore, and puts himself out to try to
do
> something for the crew - e.g. Tune of the Day, his downloadable LP, etc.
>
> I agree.
>
> > you DO NOT play in new york.
> What's so great about New York?
> Population of NYC: 18 Million (ish)
> Population of USA: 290 Million (ish)
> That leaves plenty room outside of NY to be the greatest harcore producer
in
> the US, no?
>
> Yes it does...but look at the comment below that you quoted....there is
alot of the US aside from those states, but he claims that he plays in the
NorthEast (mainly)...I libe in the NorthEast and have YET to see his name on
a flyer...whatever, if you don't play out, thats all good - but dont LIE.  I
know alot of bedroom djs that are happy with who they are - they dont have
to lie to other people to make themselves seem more important.  Besides...if
he's the greatest hardcore producer in the US, then how come no one knows it
but him?
>
> > I live in NY, I have partied all over the East Coast from Vermont to
> Detroit to Miami and pretty much everywhere in between. My friends are
> major promoters in NY and well-known DJ's from California to New York.
>
> Woo-hoo for you.
> BORING.
> [For anyone who remembers Lister from "Big Night Out": "You can't treat me
> like that... my friends are Doctors and Lawyers"]
>
> Oh GEEZ - thats _your_ fault for thinking I was saying it because I
thought it would be 'so damn cool'.  I was saying it bc NONE of my friends
heard of Entropy.  If he is the #1 hardcore DJ / producer in America, you
kinda think they (being major producers and djs - they would book him and/or
open for him or follow him, if he was telling the truth) would know who he
is, right?  He claimed that Odi owed him a tape from 98....Odi never heard
of him.  He never said he would make him a tape...so he's putting my friends
credibility in the mud with his lies.
>
> > if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these lists, then I wouldn't
> know who you are either.
>
> Isn't that the point of the internet - anonymity and the chance to create
> whatever persona you like? Ask any paedo (sorry to anyone who might be
> offended by this comment).
>
> If you only know him from some internet lists then I really can't see how
> you can be so down on him - learn to use your e-mail client and block his
> address if you find it all so offensive. Or just don't sign up for his
> lists in the first place.
>
> HAHAHA - 1st this isn't HIS list...Dest, you are the moderator, correct?
Entropy has about as much to do with this list as anyone else does...he
posts.  I did enjoy when he had the track of the day...and everyone deserves
a voice...but, when someone is blatently lying, and fooling people in the
meantime, then I feel that I should set the record straight.  Just as I
would want anyone else to do if I was the one having the wool pulled over
their eyes.
>
> 2nd...is that what you do??  Make up a persona so you could be cool on the
net?  I know I don't...I am happy with who I am...sorry if you feel that you
need to be someone else.  I thought the point of the net was for unlimited
amount of information and to connect with parts of the world that you
normally wouldn't.  But, I see why you use it...to, like entropy, lie about
who you are and what you do.  Pedophiles do that - not regular people just
looking to connect.
>
> .
> > I personally used to throw parties...
> So what? Ian and a bunch of other people on here still do.
> Are you too busy worrying about what all the jumped-up youngsters might
> think to find time to throw parties any more? Or did people stop coming to
> them because all you ever do is bitch?
>
>
> What jumped up youngesters??  Did I say ANYTHING about jumped up
younsters...don't put words into my mouth there Kev-boy.
>
> I'm also sorry that opening your eyes to the lies of someone is bitching.
Would you like me to leave you to live in your world of deception and lies?
Then YOU block MY address...otherwise, leave it alone.  I am not the one
thats lying here...why would you turn accept deception and turn away the
person that is opening your eyes?
>
> **KELLY**
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

The point was not whether Entropy is as "big" in the US as he says he is,
and what would constitute "proof".
The point was - who cares that much to get so worked up about it?

Every commercial that comes on the TV is saying "I'm the greatest", and
Entropy is in some sense marketing himself when he says all this stuff.  You
can enjoy the ads without believing everything they say - just take it with
a pinch of salt and shrug.

> Besides...if he's the greatest hardcore producer in the US, then how come
no one knows it but him?

He's not the only one that knows it... we all do too 'cos he tells us all
the time so it must be true ;o)

> He claimed that Odi owed him a tape from 98....Odi never heard of him.

Well I've never heard of Odi - does that make Entropy more famous than him
then? In fact, does Odi really exist?  Maybe you made him up so we think you
have some friends.

> > if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these lists, then I wouldn't
> > know who you are either.
>
> HAHAHA - 1st this isn't HIS list...Dest, you are the moderator, correct?

You said "these lists", implying more than one. When I said "his lists" I
meant the lists he regularly posts to, which I get the impression are legion
(although I know Entropy moderates quite a few other lists - or did at
least).  In the same way I have "my lists", although I don't moderate any of
them.  I don't believe lists are "owned" in any sense, other than by the
people who read them and post to them.  IMHO, for an "unmoderated" list like
this one (i.e. posts from members get sent without being approved first),
being moderator is a purely administrative role, conferring no extra
editiorial control over and above the rest of the subscribers.  Sorry if I
wasn't clear about this in the original post.

> when someone is blatently lying, and fooling people in the meantime

How could he possibly have any of us fooled that he's the greatest hardcore
producer when he puts guitars in his tracks?  Don't worry - no-one on here
is fooled. (Again, no offence Entropy!)

> 2nd...is that what you do??  Make up a persona so you could be cool on the
net?
Of course.  Can't you tell by the way I effortlessly portray myself as such
a dude?  In real life I hate oldschool, think breakbeats are the work of the
devil and that the only place an Amen should be heard is in the house of the
Lord.  I've never been to a rave in my life and listen to rocking guitars
(a-la-Entropy) all day.

> I know I don't...
> I am happy with who I am...sorry if you feel that you need to be someone
else.

Yes you do.  Everyone does, if we want to get philosophical/psychological
about this.  It's not particularly profound or anything (in fact, quite a
mundane observation) but we are all "different" people (or there are
different aspects of our personalities at least).  The person ones parent
knows is a "different person" from that known by an employer or a lover (at
least in most cases!).  Similarly, the persona you have on-line will be
different from all of these again.  So on-line Entropy is the
self-proclaimed greatest hardcore DJ in the US, just like Maxx is a guy who
hits the "Shift" key too often, Chris Purity is a man who's found a lot of
time to make mp3's recently (and good on him for it!) and Destiny is a guy
who can generally name-that-tune-in-one.  This probably isn't how their
Gran's think of them, but it's the persona we see here.  There's nothing odd
or creepy about this, though.

> Would you like me to leave you to live in your world of deception and
lies?

Go on then... if you insist.

> Then YOU block MY address...

No - I enjoy these light-hearted discussions, don't you?
Its what made the list great in the first place.
In fact, isn't it the whole point of lists - "to connect with parts of the
world that you normally wouldn't".

> otherwise, leave it alone.

If you post on a public forum you've got to allow, and indeed expect, people
to respond if they want to.  They're an inherently democratic thing.  If you
want to keep it between you and Entropy then mail him private-style.  Don't
put something out and then tell everyone to "leave it alone".

> why would you turn accept deception and turn away the person that is
opening your eyes?

I'm not accepting or turning away anyone here, just having fun and killing a
little time... speaking of which, its time for me to go to the pub.

Cheers,
Kev.


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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, Kev Keenoy wrote:
> Yes you do.  Everyone does, if we want to get philosophical/psychological
> about this.  It's not particularly profound or anything (in fact, quite a
> mundane observation) but we are all "different" people (or there are
> different aspects of our personalities at least).  The person ones parent
> knows is a "different person" from that known by an employer or a lover (at
> least in most cases!).  Similarly, the persona you have on-line will be
> different from all of these again.  So on-line Entropy is the
> self-proclaimed greatest hardcore DJ in the US, just like Maxx is a guy who
> hits the "Shift" key too often, Chris Purity is a man who's found a lot of
> time to make mp3's recently (and good on him for it!) and Destiny is a guy
> who can generally name-that-tune-in-one.  This probably isn't how their
> Gran's think of them, but it's the persona we see here.  There's nothing odd
> or creepy about this, though.

LOL -- not like I've "found" the time to make the MP3s, as I only have on
average about an hour spare per day to either record from vinyl, declick,
or convert to MP3... if I was unemployed I'd have a lot more free time.
That's not the case thankfully.  ;)

Re this whole argument whether or not Entropy is the #1 US Hardcore DJ, or
whether or not someone who'd never went to the original NASA parties
should go to what they're calling a "reunion"... it's all a bit silly
when you stop and think about it, really.  I am 23.  Do the math.  You'll
realize there's no way I could have gone to one of the NASA parties back
in the day.  But fact of the matter is, I love hardcore with every bit of
my heart.  And isn't that what it's supposed to be about?  The music?  Who
has the right to tell anyone that's as firmly entrenched in pure love for
hardcore that, as the tune goes, their name's not down and they're not
coming in?  I'd think you'd rather have someone that's actually going to
get off their nut and dance like a fucking madman rather than folks that
won't appreciate what's being played.  I know I sure as fuck would.

Being petty and bitching isn't going to help matters any.  Lighten up.
After all, this isn't the industrial scene, right?  So why with all the
moodiness?  ;)

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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Just dug out an old breabeat hardcore track tune Demo & Poet featuring =
Dj Lomas..."Welcome To My Nightmare" on Step Aside Recs..

Dark breatbeat Hardcore with a bit of uplifting pianos (from far out) =
thrown in for good measure... fuckin quality

Anyone point me in the direction of some more trax/mixes form these guys =
to hunt for, heard Demos happy hardcore on vital elements but aint =
really my thing..
Also heard tape of lomas but it wanst brekbeat, more uk gabba....

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

This is the lamest thing I've ever seen.

First off, Odi and I have been down for a while.  I haven't seen him in a 
while, cause I havent been to NYC in a bit (don't care for it really, no 
Hardcore scene).  We aren't best friends or anything, and I never implied 
we were.

Second off, I can't believe I have to supply "proof" of where I've played.

Here goes (this list only goes up to August of 2001, I didn't keep track 
after that):


Aug 19th, 1997
Energy
Volume Productions
Providence, RI

Nov 28th, 1997
Operation: Boom
Network One
Nashua, NH

Mar 28th, 1998
Simple Pleasures
Lushvibez Unit
Rochester, NY

April 11th, 1998
Pulsate
Audio Dream Control
Boston, MA

Aug 25th, 1998
Circle
Gnomefatty Kollectiv
Boston, MA

Oct 31th, 1998
All Hallow's Eve
DomEnation
Boston, MA

Dec 4th, 1998
Jungle Gym
Sweetheart
Worcestor, MA

Dec 29th, 1998
Circle
Gnomefatty Kollectiv
Boston, MA

May 28th, 1999
Operation Boom
Network One
Nashua, NH

May 30th, 1999
222
Redlight Prod.
Boston, MA

June 1st, 1999
Stateside
Stateside Prod
Boston, MA

June 8th, 1999
603 Disco
Scratch N Sniff Us
Keene, NH

June 18th, 1999
Solstice Dreams
Giselle and PSP
rural Vermont

June 22nd, 1999
Diathesi
Steve Sanzone Prod
Boston, MA

July 17th, 1999
Peace, Love, and Harmony
Worcestor, MA

July 29th, 1999
Sorcery
Powersurge
Salem, MA

Aug 20th, 1999
5th Element
143 Prod
Lowell, MA

Aug 27th, 1999
Unison
Lawrence, MA

Aug 28th, 1999
Citron 2
Rhythm Alliance
Portland, ME

Sept 11th, 1999
Holy Cattle
Beyond Insanity
Keene, NH

Oct 1st, 1999
Modify
Convergence Prod
Lowell, MA

Oct 16th, 1999
Believe
313 Prod
Washington, DC

Oct 29th, 1999
Freaky 2
VR and Nocturnal
Hartford, CT

Nov 27th, 1999
Truth
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Dec 4th, 1999
Clueless
Salem, MA

Dec 17th, 1999
Superheroes
Columns of Knowledge
Springfield, MA

Dec 18th, 1999
Barefoot Rhythms
Barefoot Prod
Mexico, ME

Dec 25th, 1999
X-Mas 2000
Rhythm Alliance
Springfield, MA

Dec 26th, 1999
Dec 26th
Entropy
Boston, MA

Dec 31st, 1999
Eternity 5
Y2k Prod
Schenectady, NY

Jan 18th, 2000
603 Disco
Scratch N Sniff Us
Keene, NH

Jan 22nd, 2000
Silly Putty 3
Shy Prod
New Haven, CT

Jan 28th, 2000
Yours Tru-ly
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Jan 29th, 2000
Against All Odds
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Springfield, MA

Feb 4th, 2000
Realizations
Spiritual Emporium
Hartford, CT

Feb 11th, 2000
Mission Impossible
Hartford, CT

Feb 18th, 2000
Glo Worm
TBT Prod
Albany, NY

Feb 19th, 2000
Land of the Lost
Liquid Atmosphere
Keene, NH

Feb 22nd, 2000
Revival
Fortune 500
Concord, NH

Feb 25th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 1
Entropy
Boston, MA

Feb 26th, 2000
Release Installment #1
Muck Crew
Springfield, MA

Mar 4th, 2000
Reflex (tag w/Sonik)
Rhythm Alliance
Springfield, MA

Mar 10th, 2000
Fresh Start
Columns Of Knowledge
Windsor Locks, CT

Mar 11th, 2000
Mr Wendall
Barefoot Prod
Lewiston, ME

Mar 17th, 2000
True Luck (tag with Spree)
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Mar 18th, 2000
Atlantis
Salisbury, MA

Mar 18th, 2000
Strawbery Sno-gurt
Beyond Insanity
Keene, NH

Mar 24th, 2000
Clean
Albany, NY

Mar 25th, 2000
Sparkle
Shannon and Phunky Phresh Prod
Fitchburg, MA

April 5th, 2000
Friction
Trance Generation Prod
Billerica, MA

April 6th, 2000
TNT
Aftermath Prod
Portsmouth, NH

April 7th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 2
Entropy
Boston, MA

April 8th, 2000
Hard Days Night (tag with Cloudskipper)
Strategic Measures and Mass Productions
Fall River, MA

April 8th, 2000
Funky Rumpus 2 (tag with Cloudskipper)
Shy Prod
Springfield, MA

April 14th, 2000
Realizations
Spiritual Emporium
Hartford, CT

April 15th, 2000
Ritual
York, PA

Apr 22nd, 2000
Supreme Beings
Kingsize Prod
Hartford, CT

Apr 22nd, 2000
Til Dawn Breaks
Statik Emotions
Springfield, MA

May 5th, 2000
Journey to the Sun
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Springfield, MA

May 11th, 2000
Nokturne
Manchester, NH

May 19th, 2000
Operation: Boom (tag with Sonik)
Netwerk One
Dover, NH

May 20th, 2000
Gay/Straight Youth Pride March
City Of Boston
Boston, MA

May 26th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 3
Entropy
Billerica, MA

May 27th, 2000
Posideon (tag with Michael Knight)
Trance Generation Prod
Salisbury, MA

June 2nd, 2000
Orbit
Rise
Boston, MA

June 10th, 2000
Tiny's Graduation Party
Tiny
Lowell, MA

June 18th, 2000
Tilt
Aftermath Prod
Somersworth, NH

June 23rd, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 4
Entropy
Bilerica, MA

June 23rd, 2000
Enchantment Under the Sea
NYNEX
Worcestor, MA

June 24th, 2000
Udderly Moontastic
Scratch N Sniff Us
Western NH

June 27th, 2000
Energy
Volume Prod
Providence, RI

June 30th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 3rd, 2000
Firecracker
Entropy and LisaQ
Salisbury, MA

July 6th, 2000
Playground
Waxxworks Prod
Brockton, MA

July 8th, 2000
R.U.N.
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Lynn, MA

July 9th, 2000
Sunburn II afterhours
Scratch N Sniff Us
Keene, NH

July 14th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 21st, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 5
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 22nd, 2000
Meltdown Fever (tag with Muppetfucker)
Fortune 500
Salisbury, MA

July 28th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 29th, 2000
All Out Sunshine 3
Columns Of Knowledge
Southern CT

Aug 4th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Aug 5th, 2000
Rejuvinate
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Lynn, MA

Aug 11th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Aug 18th, 2000
Class Cuts
Digital 54
Cleveland, OH

Aug 25th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Aug 26th, 2000
Freedom 2000
Beyond Insanity
Southern VT

Sept 1st, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 2nd, 2000
Eternal Flame
Mass Prod, Strategic Measures, VibeTribe
Salisbury, MA

Sept 2nd, 2000
True England
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Sept 8th, 2000
Eight Is Enough
Flex Records
Burlington, VT

Sept 9th, 2000
Perspectives(tag with Oron Haus)
Positive Energy Prod
MA

Sept 15th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 6
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 16th, 2000
Forbidden
Twilight Prod and All Stars
Hampton Falls, NH

Sept 22nd, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 29th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 29th, 2000
Funky Rosh Hashanah
Phunky Phresh Prod
Fitchburg, MA

Sept 30th, 2000
Balance
Polareyes Prod
Torrington, CT

Oct 6th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Oct 7th, 2000
Los Diablos
Entropy and True Prod
Springfield, MA

Oct 12th, 2000
Global Bass
Mixed Up Prod
NYC, NY

Oct 14th, 2000
Here We Glow
BritLee Prod
NYC, NY

Oct 21st, 2000
Forbidden
Twilight Prod
Hampton, NH

Oct 28th, 2000
Helter Skelter
Mass Prod and Strategic Measures
Fall River, MA

Nov 4th, 2000
Turntable Mathematics
Those Crazy Kids Prod
Amherst, MA

Nov 9th, 2000
Global Bass
Mixed Up Prod
NYC, NY

Nov 13th, 2000
Tease
Tristan Trixx Prod
Boston, MA

Nov 17th, 2000
Ill Nation
Beyond Insanity
NH

Nov 23rd, 2000
Thunderground
NWYO
Brooklyn, NY

Nov 25th, 2000
The Whole Truth
True Productions
Springfield,MA

Nov 30th, 2000
Something Special
Columns Of Knowledge
Hartford, CT

Dec 8th, 2000
Liquid
Netwerk One
Manchester, NH

Dec 9th, 2000
Milton Academy High School Dance
Milton Academy
Milton, MA

Dec 14th, 2000
Global Bass
Mixed Up
NYC, NY

Dec 16th, 2000
Beaver Country Day School's GSA Dance
Beaver Country Day School
Newton, MA

Dec 18th, 2000
Paznation (on 3 tables)
Tristan Trixx Prod
Boston, MA

Dec 23rd, 2000
Mary Xmas
Pursue Happiness Prod
Pittsburgh, PA

Dec 29th, 2000
Skool
Brit Lee Prod and Project Eden Prod
Bronx, NY

Dec 31st, 2000
Eternity 6
Y2K Prod
Albany, NY

Jan 6th, 2001
Happy Hardcore Invasion 7
Entropy
Manchester, NH

Jan 20th, 2001
General Gau's Chicken
Revere, MA

Jan 27th, 2001
Whipped
True Prod and Missed The Exit Again
Springfield, MA

Feb 2nd, 2001
Higher
Entice Productions
Lexington, KY

Feb 10th, 2001
Be Mine
True Productions
Springfield, MA

Feb 16th, 2001
Turntable Mathematics
Those Crazy Kids
Hadley, MA

Feb 24th, 2001
Los Diablos II
Entropy and True Prod
Springfield, MA

Mar 10th, 2001
Infernal Bass
Warchild
Manchester, NH

April 5th, 2001
Elements
Crook and Lenore
Cambridge, MA

April 7th, 2001
Sastun
DJ Trancegirl
Clifton, NY

April 14th, 2001
East Coast Electronic Music Festival
Vinyllab Prod
Arundel County, MD

April 20th, 2001
Psykik Beats
Elysian Fields Prod
Newburyport, MA

April 21st, 2001
Earthfest 2001
Netwerk One
Lewiston, ME

May 5th, 2001
Stragety
Mass Prod
Fall River, MA

May 18th, 2001
Phase 003
NYWO
NYC, NY

May 19th, 2001
Tables Turn (w/ MC Tantrum)
True Prod
Springfield, MA

May 26th, 2001
Mission One
Division Six Prod
NYC, NY

May 29th, 2001
Magick
3rd Input & Capital One
Worcestor, MA

June 1st, 2001
Spank
DJ Daeva Prod
Concord, NH

June 2nd, 2001
The Lost World
Neverworld Prod
NYC, NY

June 2nd, 2001
Awww Yeah (tag with Bezerker)
Columns Of Knowledge
New Haven, CT

June 9th, 2001
Equinox
LA Prod
Albany, NY

June 23rd, 2001
Lithium
SonickTeam Prod
Baltimore, MD

July 7th, 2001
Hardcore Heaven
Urban Bounce
Tampa, FL

Aug 4th, 2001
Hypnos (tag with Singe)
Intellibass Prod
Pittsburgh, PA





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> Factory is the one near VE, E Bloc and Spin Inn isn't it?

yeah

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And in my previous post - I put that point in.  I looked around and saw NO ONE dancing 2 years ago when DB played at the Limelight.  They didn't seem to get it.  I wrote that I want to be on the dancefloor with people who appreciate the music as much as I do...not have them shrug and walk away because it's new to them..when little do they realize this is what started their beloved scene.  DB actually told my friend that he refused to play hardcore anymore because of the reaction of the crowd.  How sad is that?  
 
Hardcore makes me want to jump right out of my skin...gives me the chills...makes me smile whenever I hear it.  I want to be with people that have the same passion about the music as I do.  I don't think that that's wrong.  And to be stereotypical (I know its not true that all kids hate hardcore) but the majority does.  And they might not know what kind of music will be played because they see DB, Scott Henry, Bones & Odi...who now play completely different music then they used to.
 
Damn - 3 more hours...this day is going toooooo slow.  =(
 
**KELLY**

Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:
And isn't that what it's supposed to be about? The music? Who
has the right to tell anyone that's as firmly entrenched in pure love for
hardcore that, as the tune goes, their name's not down and they're not
coming in? I'd think you'd rather have someone that's actually going to
get off their nut and dance like a fucking madman rather than folks that
won't appreciate what's being played. I know I sure as fuck would.



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I didnt ask for a list of where you previously played - just a list of where you will be playing in April....considering you are such an in demand producer / dj.
 
**KELLY**

DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
This is the lamest thing I've ever seen.

First off, Odi and I have been down for a while. I haven't seen him in a 
while, cause I havent been to NYC in a bit (don't care for it really, no 
Hardcore scene). We aren't best friends or anything, and I never implied 
we were.

Second off, I can't believe I have to supply "proof" of where I've played.

Here goes (this list only goes up to August of 2001, I didn't keep track 
after that):


Aug 19th, 1997
Energy
Volume Productions
Providence, RI

Nov 28th, 1997
Operation: Boom
Network One
Nashua, NH

Mar 28th, 1998
Simple Pleasures
Lushvibez Unit
Rochester, NY

April 11th, 1998
Pulsate
Audio Dream Control
Boston, MA

Aug 25th, 1998
Circle
Gnomefatty Kollectiv
Boston, MA

Oct 31th, 1998
All Hallow's Eve
DomEnation
Boston, MA

Dec 4th, 1998
Jungle Gym
Sweetheart
Worcestor, MA

Dec 29th, 1998
Circle
Gnomefatty Kollectiv
Boston, MA

May 28th, 1999
Operation Boom
Network One
Nashua, NH

May 30th, 1999
222
Redlight Prod.
Boston, MA

June 1st, 1999
Stateside
Stateside Prod
Boston, MA

June 8th, 1999
603 Disco
Scratch N Sniff Us
Keene, NH

June 18th, 1999
Solstice Dreams
Giselle and PSP
rural Vermont

June 22nd, 1999
Diathesi
Steve Sanzone Prod
Boston, MA

July 17th, 1999
Peace, Love, and Harmony
Worcestor, MA

July 29th, 1999
Sorcery
Powersurge
Salem, MA

Aug 20th, 1999
5th Element
143 Prod
Lowell, MA

Aug 27th, 1999
Unison
Lawrence, MA

Aug 28th, 1999
Citron 2
Rhythm Alliance
Portland, ME

Sept 11th, 1999
Holy Cattle
Beyond Insanity
Keene, NH

Oct 1st, 1999
Modify
Convergence Prod
Lowell, MA

Oct 16th, 1999
Believe
313 Prod
Washington, DC

Oct 29th, 1999
Freaky 2
VR and Nocturnal
Hartford, CT

Nov 27th, 1999
Truth
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Dec 4th, 1999
Clueless
Salem, MA

Dec 17th, 1999
Superheroes
Columns of Knowledge
Springfield, MA

Dec 18th, 1999
Barefoot Rhythms
Barefoot Prod
Mexico, ME

Dec 25th, 1999
X-Mas 2000
Rhythm Alliance
Springfield, MA

Dec 26th, 1999
Dec 26th
Entropy
Boston, MA

Dec 31st, 1999
Eternity 5
Y2k Prod
Schenectady, NY

Jan 18th, 2000
603 Disco
Scratch N Sniff Us
Keene, NH

Jan 22nd, 2000
Silly Putty 3
Shy Prod
New Haven, CT

Jan 28th, 2000
Yours Tru-ly
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Jan 29th, 2000
Against All Odds
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Springfield, MA

Feb 4th, 2000
Realizations
Spiritual Emporium
Hartford, CT

Feb 11th, 2000
Mission Impossible
Hartford, CT

Feb 18th, 2000
Glo Worm
TBT Prod
Albany, NY

Feb 19th, 2000
Land of the Lost
Liquid Atmosphere
Keene, NH

Feb 22nd, 2000
Revival
Fortune 500
Concord, NH

Feb 25th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 1
Entropy
Boston, MA

Feb 26th, 2000
Release Installment #1
Muck Crew
Springfield, MA

Mar 4th, 2000
Reflex (tag w/Sonik)
Rhythm Alliance
Springfield, MA

Mar 10th, 2000
Fresh Start
Columns Of Knowledge
Windsor Locks, CT

Mar 11th, 2000
Mr Wendall
Barefoot Prod
Lewiston, ME

Mar 17th, 2000
True Luck (tag with Spree)
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Mar 18th, 2000
Atlantis
Salisbury, MA

Mar 18th, 2000
Strawbery Sno-gurt
Beyond Insanity
Keene, NH

Mar 24th, 2000
Clean
Albany, NY

Mar 25th, 2000
Sparkle
Shannon and Phunky Phresh Prod
Fitchburg, MA

April 5th, 2000
Friction
Trance Generation Prod
Billerica, MA

April 6th, 2000
TNT
Aftermath Prod
Portsmouth, NH

April 7th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 2
Entropy
Boston, MA

April 8th, 2000
Hard Days Night (tag with Cloudskipper)
Strategic Measures and Mass Productions
Fall River, MA

April 8th, 2000
Funky Rumpus 2 (tag with Cloudskipper)
Shy Prod
Springfield, MA

April 14th, 2000
Realizations
Spiritual Emporium
Hartford, CT

April 15th, 2000
Ritual
York, PA

Apr 22nd, 2000
Supreme Beings
Kingsize Prod
Hartford, CT

Apr 22nd, 2000
Til Dawn Breaks
Statik Emotions
Springfield, MA

May 5th, 2000
Journey to the Sun
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Springfield, MA

May 11th, 2000
Nokturne
Manchester, NH

May 19th, 2000
Operation: Boom (tag with Sonik)
Netwerk One
Dover, NH

May 20th, 2000
Gay/Straight Youth Pride March
City Of Boston
Boston, MA

May 26th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 3
Entropy
Billerica, MA

May 27th, 2000
Posideon (tag with Michael Knight)
Trance Generation Prod
Salisbury, MA

June 2nd, 2000
Orbit
Rise
Boston, MA

June 10th, 2000
Tiny's Graduation Party
Tiny
Lowell, MA

June 18th, 2000
Tilt
Aftermath Prod
Somersworth, NH

June 23rd, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 4
Entropy
Bilerica, MA

June 23rd, 2000
Enchantment Under the Sea
NYNEX
Worcestor, MA

June 24th, 2000
Udderly Moontastic
Scratch N Sniff Us
Western NH

June 27th, 2000
Energy
Volume Prod
Providence, RI

June 30th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 3rd, 2000
Firecracker
Entropy and LisaQ
Salisbury, MA

July 6th, 2000
Playground
Waxxworks Prod
Brockton, MA

July 8th, 2000
R.U.N.
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Lynn, MA

July 9th, 2000
Sunburn II afterhours
Scratch N Sniff Us
Keene, NH

July 14th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 21st, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 5
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 22nd, 2000
Meltdown Fever (tag with Muppetfucker)
Fortune 500
Salisbury, MA

July 28th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

July 29th, 2000
All Out Sunshine 3
Columns Of Knowledge
Southern CT

Aug 4th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Aug 5th, 2000
Rejuvinate
Keep On Smilin' Prod
Lynn, MA

Aug 11th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Aug 18th, 2000
Class Cuts
Digital 54
Cleveland, OH

Aug 25th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Aug 26th, 2000
Freedom 2000
Beyond Insanity
Southern VT

Sept 1st, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 2nd, 2000
Eternal Flame
Mass Prod, Strategic Measures, VibeTribe
Salisbury, MA

Sept 2nd, 2000
True England
True Prod
Springfield, MA

Sept 8th, 2000
Eight Is Enough
Flex Records
Burlington, VT

Sept 9th, 2000
Perspectives(tag with Oron Haus)
Positive Energy Prod
MA

Sept 15th, 2000
Happy Hardcore Invasion 6
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 16th, 2000
Forbidden
Twilight Prod and All Stars
Hampton Falls, NH

Sept 22nd, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 29th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Sept 29th, 2000
Funky Rosh Hashanah
Phunky Phresh Prod
Fitchburg, MA

Sept 30th, 2000
Balance
Polareyes Prod
Torrington, CT

Oct 6th, 2000
Carousel
Entropy
Billerica, MA

Oct 7th, 2000
Los Diablos
Entropy and True Prod
Springfield, MA

Oct 12th, 2000
Global Bass
Mixed Up Prod
NYC, NY

Oct 14th, 2000
Here We Glow
BritLee Prod
NYC, NY

Oct 21st, 2000
Forbidden
Twilight Prod
Hampton, NH

Oct 28th, 2000
Helter Skelter
Mass Prod and Strategic Measures
Fall River, MA

Nov 4th, 2000
Turntable Mathematics
Those Crazy Kids Prod
Amherst, MA

Nov 9th, 2000
Global Bass
Mixed Up Prod
NYC, NY

Nov 13th, 2000
Tease
Tristan Trixx Prod
Boston, MA

Nov 17th, 2000
Ill Nation
Beyond Insanity
NH

Nov 23rd, 2000
Thunderground
NWYO
Brooklyn, NY

Nov 25th, 2000
The Whole Truth
True Productions
Springfield,MA

Nov 30th, 2000
Something Special
Columns Of Knowledge
Hartford, CT

Dec 8th, 2000
Liquid
Netwerk One
Manchester, NH

Dec 9th, 2000
Milton Academy High School Dance
Milton Academy
Milton, MA

Dec 14th, 2000
Global Bass
Mixed Up
NYC, NY

Dec 16th, 2000
Beaver Country Day School's GSA Dance
Beaver Country Day School
Newton, MA

Dec 18th, 2000
Paznation (on 3 tables)
Tristan Trixx Prod
Boston, MA

Dec 23rd, 2000
Mary Xmas
Pursue Happiness Prod
Pittsburgh, PA

Dec 29th, 2000
Skool
Brit Lee Prod and Project Eden Prod
Bronx, NY

Dec 31st, 2000
Eternity 6
Y2K Prod
Albany, NY

Jan 6th, 2001
Happy Hardcore Invasion 7
Entropy
Manchester, NH

Jan 20th, 2001
General Gau's Chicken
Revere, MA

Jan 27th, 2001
Whipped
True Prod and Missed The Exit Again
Springfield, MA

Feb 2nd, 2001
Higher
Entice Productions
Lexington, KY

Feb 10th, 2001
Be Mine
True Productions
Springfield, MA

Feb 16th, 2001
Turntable Mathematics
Those Crazy Kids
Hadley, MA

Feb 24th, 2001
Los Diablos II
Entropy and True Prod
Springfield, MA

Mar 10th, 2001
Infernal Bass
Warchild
Manchester, NH

April 5th, 2001
Elements
Crook and Lenore
Cambridge, MA

April 7th, 2001
Sastun
DJ Trancegirl
Clifton, NY

April 14th, 2001
East Coast Electronic Music Festival
Vinyllab Prod
Arundel County, MD

April 20th, 2001
Psykik Beats
Elysian Fields Prod
Newburyport, MA

April 21st, 2001
Earthfest 2001
Netwerk One
Lewiston, ME

May 5th, 2001
Stragety
Mass Prod
Fall River, MA

May 18th, 2001
Phase 003
NYWO
NYC, NY

May 19th, 2001
Tables Turn (w/ MC Tantrum)
True Prod
Springfield, MA

May 26th, 2001
Mission One
Division Six Prod
NYC, NY

May 29th, 2001
Magick
3rd Input & Capital One
Worcestor, MA

June 1st, 2001
Spank
DJ Daeva Prod
Concord, NH

June 2nd, 2001
The Lost World
Neverworld Prod
NYC, NY

June 2nd, 2001
Awww Yeah (tag with Bezerker)
Columns Of Knowledge
New Haven, CT

June 9th, 2001
Equinox
LA Prod
Albany, NY

June 23rd, 2001
Lithium
SonickTeam Prod
Baltimore, MD

July 7th, 2001
Hardcore Heaven
Urban Bounce
Tampa, FL

Aug 4th, 2001
Hypnos (tag with Singe)
Intellibass Prod
Pittsburgh, PA





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

Well there are hardly any events in this country really anymore, Kelly, 
you should know that.

ESPECIALLY Hardcore events.



On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 11:32:09 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I didnt ask for a list of where you previously played - just a list of 
> where you will be playing in April....considering you are such an in 
> demand producer / dj.
>
> **KELLY**
>
> DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> This is the lamest thing I've ever seen.
>
> First off, Odi and I have been down for a while. I haven't seen him in a
> while, cause I havent been to NYC in a bit (don't care for it really, no
> Hardcore scene). We aren't best friends or anything, and I never implied
> we were.
>
> Second off, I can't believe I have to supply "proof" of where I've 
> played.
>
> Here goes (this list only goes up to August of 2001, I didn't keep track
> after that):
>
>
> Aug 19th, 1997
> Energy
> Volume Productions
> Providence, RI
>
> Nov 28th, 1997
> Operation: Boom
> Network One
> Nashua, NH
>
> Mar 28th, 1998
> Simple Pleasures
> Lushvibez Unit
> Rochester, NY
>
> April 11th, 1998
> Pulsate
> Audio Dream Control
> Boston, MA
>
> Aug 25th, 1998
> Circle
> Gnomefatty Kollectiv
> Boston, MA
>
> Oct 31th, 1998
> All Hallow's Eve
> DomEnation
> Boston, MA
>
> Dec 4th, 1998
> Jungle Gym
> Sweetheart
> Worcestor, MA
>
> Dec 29th, 1998
> Circle
> Gnomefatty Kollectiv
> Boston, MA
>
> May 28th, 1999
> Operation Boom
> Network One
> Nashua, NH
>
> May 30th, 1999
> 222
> Redlight Prod.
> Boston, MA
>
> June 1st, 1999
> Stateside
> Stateside Prod
> Boston, MA
>
> June 8th, 1999
> 603 Disco
> Scratch N Sniff Us
> Keene, NH
>
> June 18th, 1999
> Solstice Dreams
> Giselle and PSP
> rural Vermont
>
> June 22nd, 1999
> Diathesi
> Steve Sanzone Prod
> Boston, MA
>
> July 17th, 1999
> Peace, Love, and Harmony
> Worcestor, MA
>
> July 29th, 1999
> Sorcery
> Powersurge
> Salem, MA
>
> Aug 20th, 1999
> 5th Element
> 143 Prod
> Lowell, MA
>
> Aug 27th, 1999
> Unison
> Lawrence, MA
>
> Aug 28th, 1999
> Citron 2
> Rhythm Alliance
> Portland, ME
>
> Sept 11th, 1999
> Holy Cattle
> Beyond Insanity
> Keene, NH
>
> Oct 1st, 1999
> Modify
> Convergence Prod
> Lowell, MA
>
> Oct 16th, 1999
> Believe
> 313 Prod
> Washington, DC
>
> Oct 29th, 1999
> Freaky 2
> VR and Nocturnal
> Hartford, CT
>
> Nov 27th, 1999
> Truth
> True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Dec 4th, 1999
> Clueless
> Salem, MA
>
> Dec 17th, 1999
> Superheroes
> Columns of Knowledge
> Springfield, MA
>
> Dec 18th, 1999
> Barefoot Rhythms
> Barefoot Prod
> Mexico, ME
>
> Dec 25th, 1999
> X-Mas 2000
> Rhythm Alliance
> Springfield, MA
>
> Dec 26th, 1999
> Dec 26th
> Entropy
> Boston, MA
>
> Dec 31st, 1999
> Eternity 5
> Y2k Prod
> Schenectady, NY
>
> Jan 18th, 2000
> 603 Disco
> Scratch N Sniff Us
> Keene, NH
>
> Jan 22nd, 2000
> Silly Putty 3
> Shy Prod
> New Haven, CT
>
> Jan 28th, 2000
> Yours Tru-ly
> True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Jan 29th, 2000
> Against All Odds
> Keep On Smilin' Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Feb 4th, 2000
> Realizations
> Spiritual Emporium
> Hartford, CT
>
> Feb 11th, 2000
> Mission Impossible
> Hartford, CT
>
> Feb 18th, 2000
> Glo Worm
> TBT Prod
> Albany, NY
>
> Feb 19th, 2000
> Land of the Lost
> Liquid Atmosphere
> Keene, NH
>
> Feb 22nd, 2000
> Revival
> Fortune 500
> Concord, NH
>
> Feb 25th, 2000
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 1
> Entropy
> Boston, MA
>
> Feb 26th, 2000
> Release Installment #1
> Muck Crew
> Springfield, MA
>
> Mar 4th, 2000
> Reflex (tag w/Sonik)
> Rhythm Alliance
> Springfield, MA
>
> Mar 10th, 2000
> Fresh Start
> Columns Of Knowledge
> Windsor Locks, CT
>
> Mar 11th, 2000
> Mr Wendall
> Barefoot Prod
> Lewiston, ME
>
> Mar 17th, 2000
> True Luck (tag with Spree)
> True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Mar 18th, 2000
> Atlantis
> Salisbury, MA
>
> Mar 18th, 2000
> Strawbery Sno-gurt
> Beyond Insanity
> Keene, NH
>
> Mar 24th, 2000
> Clean
> Albany, NY
>
> Mar 25th, 2000
> Sparkle
> Shannon and Phunky Phresh Prod
> Fitchburg, MA
>
> April 5th, 2000
> Friction
> Trance Generation Prod
> Billerica, MA
>
> April 6th, 2000
> TNT
> Aftermath Prod
> Portsmouth, NH
>
> April 7th, 2000
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 2
> Entropy
> Boston, MA
>
> April 8th, 2000
> Hard Days Night (tag with Cloudskipper)
> Strategic Measures and Mass Productions
> Fall River, MA
>
> April 8th, 2000
> Funky Rumpus 2 (tag with Cloudskipper)
> Shy Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> April 14th, 2000
> Realizations
> Spiritual Emporium
> Hartford, CT
>
> April 15th, 2000
> Ritual
> York, PA
>
> Apr 22nd, 2000
> Supreme Beings
> Kingsize Prod
> Hartford, CT
>
> Apr 22nd, 2000
> Til Dawn Breaks
> Statik Emotions
> Springfield, MA
>
> May 5th, 2000
> Journey to the Sun
> Keep On Smilin' Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> May 11th, 2000
> Nokturne
> Manchester, NH
>
> May 19th, 2000
> Operation: Boom (tag with Sonik)
> Netwerk One
> Dover, NH
>
> May 20th, 2000
> Gay/Straight Youth Pride March
> City Of Boston
> Boston, MA
>
> May 26th, 2000
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 3
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> May 27th, 2000
> Posideon (tag with Michael Knight)
> Trance Generation Prod
> Salisbury, MA
>
> June 2nd, 2000
> Orbit
> Rise
> Boston, MA
>
> June 10th, 2000
> Tiny's Graduation Party
> Tiny
> Lowell, MA
>
> June 18th, 2000
> Tilt
> Aftermath Prod
> Somersworth, NH
>
> June 23rd, 2000
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 4
> Entropy
> Bilerica, MA
>
> June 23rd, 2000
> Enchantment Under the Sea
> NYNEX
> Worcestor, MA
>
> June 24th, 2000
> Udderly Moontastic
> Scratch N Sniff Us
> Western NH
>
> June 27th, 2000
> Energy
> Volume Prod
> Providence, RI
>
> June 30th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> July 3rd, 2000
> Firecracker
> Entropy and LisaQ
> Salisbury, MA
>
> July 6th, 2000
> Playground
> Waxxworks Prod
> Brockton, MA
>
> July 8th, 2000
> R.U.N.
> Keep On Smilin' Prod
> Lynn, MA
>
> July 9th, 2000
> Sunburn II afterhours
> Scratch N Sniff Us
> Keene, NH
>
> July 14th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> July 21st, 2000
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 5
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> July 22nd, 2000
> Meltdown Fever (tag with Muppetfucker)
> Fortune 500
> Salisbury, MA
>
> July 28th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> July 29th, 2000
> All Out Sunshine 3
> Columns Of Knowledge
> Southern CT
>
> Aug 4th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Aug 5th, 2000
> Rejuvinate
> Keep On Smilin' Prod
> Lynn, MA
>
> Aug 11th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Aug 18th, 2000
> Class Cuts
> Digital 54
> Cleveland, OH
>
> Aug 25th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Aug 26th, 2000
> Freedom 2000
> Beyond Insanity
> Southern VT
>
> Sept 1st, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Sept 2nd, 2000
> Eternal Flame
> Mass Prod, Strategic Measures, VibeTribe
> Salisbury, MA
>
> Sept 2nd, 2000
> True England
> True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Sept 8th, 2000
> Eight Is Enough
> Flex Records
> Burlington, VT
>
> Sept 9th, 2000
> Perspectives(tag with Oron Haus)
> Positive Energy Prod
> MA
>
> Sept 15th, 2000
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 6
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Sept 16th, 2000
> Forbidden
> Twilight Prod and All Stars
> Hampton Falls, NH
>
> Sept 22nd, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Sept 29th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Sept 29th, 2000
> Funky Rosh Hashanah
> Phunky Phresh Prod
> Fitchburg, MA
>
> Sept 30th, 2000
> Balance
> Polareyes Prod
> Torrington, CT
>
> Oct 6th, 2000
> Carousel
> Entropy
> Billerica, MA
>
> Oct 7th, 2000
> Los Diablos
> Entropy and True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Oct 12th, 2000
> Global Bass
> Mixed Up Prod
> NYC, NY
>
> Oct 14th, 2000
> Here We Glow
> BritLee Prod
> NYC, NY
>
> Oct 21st, 2000
> Forbidden
> Twilight Prod
> Hampton, NH
>
> Oct 28th, 2000
> Helter Skelter
> Mass Prod and Strategic Measures
> Fall River, MA
>
> Nov 4th, 2000
> Turntable Mathematics
> Those Crazy Kids Prod
> Amherst, MA
>
> Nov 9th, 2000
> Global Bass
> Mixed Up Prod
> NYC, NY
>
> Nov 13th, 2000
> Tease
> Tristan Trixx Prod
> Boston, MA
>
> Nov 17th, 2000
> Ill Nation
> Beyond Insanity
> NH
>
> Nov 23rd, 2000
> Thunderground
> NWYO
> Brooklyn, NY
>
> Nov 25th, 2000
> The Whole Truth
> True Productions
> Springfield,MA
>
> Nov 30th, 2000
> Something Special
> Columns Of Knowledge
> Hartford, CT
>
> Dec 8th, 2000
> Liquid
> Netwerk One
> Manchester, NH
>
> Dec 9th, 2000
> Milton Academy High School Dance
> Milton Academy
> Milton, MA
>
> Dec 14th, 2000
> Global Bass
> Mixed Up
> NYC, NY
>
> Dec 16th, 2000
> Beaver Country Day School's GSA Dance
> Beaver Country Day School
> Newton, MA
>
> Dec 18th, 2000
> Paznation (on 3 tables)
> Tristan Trixx Prod
> Boston, MA
>
> Dec 23rd, 2000
> Mary Xmas
> Pursue Happiness Prod
> Pittsburgh, PA
>
> Dec 29th, 2000
> Skool
> Brit Lee Prod and Project Eden Prod
> Bronx, NY
>
> Dec 31st, 2000
> Eternity 6
> Y2K Prod
> Albany, NY
>
> Jan 6th, 2001
> Happy Hardcore Invasion 7
> Entropy
> Manchester, NH
>
> Jan 20th, 2001
> General Gau's Chicken
> Revere, MA
>
> Jan 27th, 2001
> Whipped
> True Prod and Missed The Exit Again
> Springfield, MA
>
> Feb 2nd, 2001
> Higher
> Entice Productions
> Lexington, KY
>
> Feb 10th, 2001
> Be Mine
> True Productions
> Springfield, MA
>
> Feb 16th, 2001
> Turntable Mathematics
> Those Crazy Kids
> Hadley, MA
>
> Feb 24th, 2001
> Los Diablos II
> Entropy and True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> Mar 10th, 2001
> Infernal Bass
> Warchild
> Manchester, NH
>
> April 5th, 2001
> Elements
> Crook and Lenore
> Cambridge, MA
>
> April 7th, 2001
> Sastun
> DJ Trancegirl
> Clifton, NY
>
> April 14th, 2001
> East Coast Electronic Music Festival
> Vinyllab Prod
> Arundel County, MD
>
> April 20th, 2001
> Psykik Beats
> Elysian Fields Prod
> Newburyport, MA
>
> April 21st, 2001
> Earthfest 2001
> Netwerk One
> Lewiston, ME
>
> May 5th, 2001
> Stragety
> Mass Prod
> Fall River, MA
>
> May 18th, 2001
> Phase 003
> NYWO
> NYC, NY
>
> May 19th, 2001
> Tables Turn (w/ MC Tantrum)
> True Prod
> Springfield, MA
>
> May 26th, 2001
> Mission One
> Division Six Prod
> NYC, NY
>
> May 29th, 2001
> Magick
> 3rd Input & Capital One
> Worcestor, MA
>
> June 1st, 2001
> Spank
> DJ Daeva Prod
> Concord, NH
>
> June 2nd, 2001
> The Lost World
> Neverworld Prod
> NYC, NY
>
> June 2nd, 2001
> Awww Yeah (tag with Bezerker)
> Columns Of Knowledge
> New Haven, CT
>
> June 9th, 2001
> Equinox
> LA Prod
> Albany, NY
>
> June 23rd, 2001
> Lithium
> SonickTeam Prod
> Baltimore, MD
>
> July 7th, 2001
> Hardcore Heaven
> Urban Bounce
> Tampa, FL
>
> Aug 4th, 2001
> Hypnos (tag with Singe)
> Intellibass Prod
> Pittsburgh, PA
>
>
>
>
>



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Hardly any events???  I don't know where you are looking, but there are numerous ones each weekend here.  You play happy hardcore, don't you?  There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)...as well as happy hardcore and drum & bass and all different kinds of tunes.
 
So in other words - you, being the #1 hardcore dj & producer - are not booked in all of the United States for the entire month of April.  I see.  Well, just goes to show ya that people talk shit when they think they can get away with it.  And it's not just a flame on Entropy - if anyone else was caught out like that, they would be called out also...it's just a pathetic way to live your life - living a bold faced lie (and telling it so much that you probably believe it)
 
**KELLY**

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you should know that.

ESPECIALLY Hardcore events.





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Subject: (oldschool) that E bust

check out the picture!

<http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object.cgi?object=/chronicle/pictures/2004/04/01/ba_drugs.jpg&paper=chronicle&file=BAGRL5UH5T1.DTL&directory=/c/a/2004/04/01&type=news>

<http://sfgate.com/chronicle/pictures/2004/04/01/ba_drugs.jpg>






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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:
> check out the picture!
>
> <http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/object.cgi?object=/chronicle/pictures/2004/04/01/ba_drugs.jpg&paper=chronicle&file=BAGRL5UH5T1.DTL&directory=/c/a/2004/04/01&type=news>
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> <http://sfgate.com/chronicle/pictures/2004/04/01/ba_drugs.jpg>

FUCK ME, That's a lot of pills.  @_@

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 12:05:57 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hardly any events???  I don't know where you are looking, but there are 
> numerous ones each weekend here.  You play happy hardcore, don't you?


I play Hardcore.


> There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends 
> that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)


That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.


> So in other words - you, being the #1 hardcore dj & producer - are not 
> booked in all of the United States for the entire month of April.  I 
> see.  Well, just goes to show ya that people talk shit when they think 
> they can get away with it.  And it's not just a flame on Entropy - if 
> anyone else was caught out like that, they would be called out 
> also...it's just a pathetic way to live your life - living a bold faced 
> lie (and telling it so much that you probably believe it)


Show me an event with Hardcore at it in April in the US outside of 
California.


Go ahead.





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Subject: (oldschool) Canada Feds Rule Song Swapping Legal

http://www.technewsworld.com/perl/story/33290.html


Canada Feds Rule Song Swapping Legal

By Gene J. Koprowski
TechNewsWorld
April 1, 2004

The Canadian Recording Industry Association -- the counterpart to the RIAA 
in the United States -- sought to extend the war on copyright thieves to a 
new, northern front. The CRIA brought the suit, resulting in the court 
ruling, as it sought a court order to identify 29 MP3 file sharers who 
were posting pop songs on the Net without the publishers' permission.

Want to download pop songs in MP3  format with impunity and without fear 
of prosecution? Move to Canada. The refuge for Vietnam War draft dodgers 
of the 1970s is now an asylum for intellectual-property pirates.

A federal court judge in Canada this week ruled that swapping songs on the 
Internet for "personal use" does not violate copyright law or infringe on 
the rights of artists like J. Lo, Britney Spears or Elton John.
"Downloading a song for personal use does not amount to infringement," 
Justice Konrad von Finckenstein of the Federal Court of Canada declared in 
a decision released this week.

"I cannot see a real difference between a library that places a photocopy 
machine in a room full of copyrighted material and a computer user that 
places a personal copy on a shared directory," von Finckenstein said.

Judge's Rationale

The Recording Industry Association of America  (RIAA) has filed hundreds 
of lawsuits against alleged intellectual-property pirates in the United 
States. The lawsuit campaign began largely because the music industry has 
been hemorrhaging sales . The RIAA claims the cause is an emerging digital 
culture that believes anything available on the Internet should be free.
The Canadian Recording Industry Association -- the counterpart to the RIAA 
in the United States -- sought to extend the war on copyright thieves to a 
new, northern front. CRIA brought the suit, resulting in von 
Finckenstein's ruling, as it sought a court order to identify 29 MP3 file 
sharers who were posting pop songs on the Net without the publishers' 
permission.

Judge von Finckenstein, however, refused to grant the order, declaring 
that placing a song in an online music-sharing service such as Kazaa  -- 
despite common sense and precedent to the contrary -- "does not amount to 
distribution."
He wrote that the CRIA produced "no evidence" that the alleged uploaders 
knowingly "distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings" 
via P2P file-sharing sites.

Appeal Likely
"The mere fact of placing a copy on a shared directory in a computer where 
that copy can be accessed via a P2P service does not amount to 
distribution," von Finckenstein wrote.

The CRIA is likely to appeal, because the Canadian music industry claims 
song theft via the Internet is responsible for its woes, including 
declines in Canadian sales of more than CDN$425 million since 1999.
Some North Americans think it is time to rewrite U.S. copyright law, 
though it is doubtful they would go so far as to say artists do not have a 
right to control distribution of their works, as the justice in Canada 
said.

For example, David McClure, president of the U.S. Internet Industry 
Association, based in Washington, D.C., told TechNewsWorld that it is time 
to rewrite U.S. copyright law so that other artists can use copyrighted 
works more freely. However, he did not endorse ending protection for 
artists altogether.
Tech Solution to Piracy

A technological solution, rather than a legal or legislative one, may be 
the key for Big Music in the United States.
Mark Baric, chairman and CEO of 2Thumbz Entertainment, based in Research 
Triangle Park, North Carolina, told TechNewsWorld that the gaming industry 
has developed a distribution methodology that might prevent piracy if used 
by other entertainment titans.

Baric's company is a publisher of games sold to mobile phone  users. He 
says customers order the games online, and then the product is sent to a 
"specific IP address."
This, Baric argues, is more secure than other methods of distribution 
because the software cannot be forwarded by the phone user. "It's much 
more difficult to pirate," he said in an interview with TechNewsWorld.



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Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills, 12 guns and $6 million.  How can they transport it in gas tanks?  It seems impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a cars gas tank that big??
 
**KELLY**

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they use special air tight water proof containers inside the fuel tanks to
store it in

used to be a lot of Dope coming thru that had a whiff of rubber in it as it
was stored under the tyre rims

i remember 10 yrs back a load of Hash was smuggled in gas tanks and it got
the name diesel because of the smell

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> Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills,
12 guns and $6 million.  How can they transport it in gas tanks?  It seems
impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a cars gas
tank that big??
>
> **KELLY**
>
> DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> check out the picture!
>
>
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oh and its generally transported in HGV Fuel tanks
some lorries have 2 or more tanks


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> Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills,
12 guns and $6 million.  How can they transport it in gas tanks?  It seems
impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a cars gas
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>
> **KELLY**
>
> DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> check out the picture!
>
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:10:08 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com 
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> Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills, 
> 12 guns and $6 million.  How can they transport it in gas tanks?  It 
> seems impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a 
> cars gas tank that big??


I'd assume in some sort of waterproof case/bags?

And yeah, gas tanks are pretty big, ya gotta think, they hold 30-50 
gallons of liquid, that's a decent size.





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DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends 
> that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)


That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.


Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.  Get it right.  And I can get some info for you if you really want to go to the parties (considering you will be in NY for the nasa reunion)...but, I really don't feel like wasting my time to get the info if you aren't going.  There are always breakcore parties in dumbo area brooklyn.  Let me know if you want the info to attend.

 

**KELLY**


Show me an event with Hardcore at it in April in the US outside of 
California.


Go ahead.





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> DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends
>> that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)
>
>
> That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.
>
>
> Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.  Get it right.


Breakcore is that shit like Alec Empire and DJ Scud.  That's Gabber, not 
Hardcore.



Like I said:


> Show me an event with Hardcore at it in April in the US outside of
> California.
>
>
> Go ahead.





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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, tony wrote:

> they use special air tight water proof containers inside the fuel tanks to
> store it in
>
> used to be a lot of Dope coming thru that had a whiff of rubber in it as it
> was stored under the tyre rims
>
> i remember 10 yrs back a load of Hash was smuggled in gas tanks and it got
> the name diesel because of the smell

Jeeze, someone has serious knowledge about these funky dealings.
*wink*wink*nudge*nudge* Say no more.

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i must have read about it in the newspapers !  8o)
all my mates are church goin wannabee angels


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> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, tony wrote:
>
> > they use special air tight water proof containers inside the fuel tanks
to
> > store it in
> >
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it
> > was stored under the tyre rims
> >
> > i remember 10 yrs back a load of Hash was smuggled in gas tanks and it
got
> > the name diesel because of the smell
>
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I don't know what kind of car you have, but my little Civic holds about 8-10 gallons.  I also don't know what kind of trucks or cars they got arrested with, so I pretty much just assumed it was a car.
 
Hey - while we are on the subject - did you hear about the liquid cocaine smuggled into the US in grapefruit containers?  One of the workers found an open case & decided to take a drink and called the cops when his face & throat numbed over.  I don't have time to find the article (I heard it on the news radio) but, maybe will find it tomorrow if I remember.

DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills, 
> 12 guns and $6 million. How can they transport it in gas tanks? It 
> seems impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a 
> cars gas tank that big??


I'd assume in some sort of waterproof case/bags?

And yeah, gas tanks are pretty big, ya gotta think, they hold 30-50 
gallons of liquid, that's a decent size.





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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 14:27:10 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I don't know what kind of car you have,


Well, I don't have a car, heh


> but my little Civic holds about 8-10 gallons.


Oh, hmmm, yeah.


> I also don't know what kind of trucks or cars they got arrested with, so 
> I pretty much just assumed it was a car.
>
> Hey - while we are on the subject - did you hear about the liquid 
> cocaine smuggled into the US in grapefruit containers?  One of the 
> workers found an open case & decided to take a drink and called the cops 
> when his face & throat numbed over.  I don't have time to find the 
> article (I heard it on the news radio) but, maybe will find it tomorrow 
> if I remember.


Yeah, I read about that!  That's crazy, hahaha

I want some of that grapefruit juice  ;)






> DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
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> wrote:
>
>> Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills,
>> 12 guns and $6 million. How can they transport it in gas tanks? It
>> seems impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a
>> cars gas tank that big??
>
>
> I'd assume in some sort of waterproof case/bags?
>
> And yeah, gas tanks are pretty big, ya gotta think, they hold 30-50
> gallons of liquid, that's a decent size.
>
>
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) that E bust

one way to cure that tooth ache i guess

wonder if the worker got arrested for nickin one of the drinks

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> I don't know what kind of car you have, but my little Civic holds about
8-10 gallons.  I also don't know what kind of trucks or cars they got
arrested with, so I pretty much just assumed it was a car.
>
> Hey - while we are on the subject - did you hear about the liquid cocaine
smuggled into the US in grapefruit containers?  One of the workers found an
open case & decided to take a drink and called the cops when his face &
throat numbed over.  I don't have time to find the article (I heard it on
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>
> DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:10:08 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
> > Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills,
> > 12 guns and $6 million. How can they transport it in gas tanks? It
> > seems impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a
> > cars gas tank that big??
>
>
> I'd assume in some sort of waterproof case/bags?
>
> And yeah, gas tanks are pretty big, ya gotta think, they hold 30-50
> gallons of liquid, that's a decent size.
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool) Wicked Atmospherics Remix

A quick shameless plug.....

I've just finished a remix of Tim Cant's tune "Wicked Atmospherics".

Its in a floaty 93 bukem/omni trio sort of style. Would be good if people
could have a listen and let me know what they think, as always feedback is
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MP3 - 6.7MB
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I'm sure a lot of you will have heard the original, which is a quality tune,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Wicked Atmospherics Remix

Wikkedness!


I like em both a lot!




On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 23:44:11 +0100, Soopaslooth <soopaslooth@f2s.com> wrote:

> A quick shameless plug.....
>
> I've just finished a remix of Tim Cant's tune "Wicked Atmospherics".
>
> Its in a floaty 93 bukem/omni trio sort of style. Would be good if people
> could have a listen and let me know what they think, as always feedback 
> is
> greatly appreciated :)
>
> MP3 - 6.7MB
> www.simonholmes.f2s.com/wickedatmospherics_soopasloothremix.mp3
>
>
> I'm sure a lot of you will have heard the original, which is a quality 
> tune,
> but if not you can grab it here:
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/t.cant/stuff/Vibena%20-%20Wicked%20Atmospherics%20(mastered).mp3
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

She said:
> >> There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends
> >> that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)
Then he said:
> > That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.
Then she said again:
> > Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.  Get it right.
And he said:
> Breakcore is that shit like Alec Empire and DJ Scud.  That's Gabber, not
> Hardcore.

And I say... FUCK IT!  It's all hardcore.  Is the shit that Panacea's been
doing on the KFA label over the past year that vastly different from what
DJ Peshay and Bizzy B were doing in 1993?  I could give half a crap where
it comes from; if it's got wicked as fuck breaks, vamped-up stabs,
chipmunks, possibly a four-to-the-floor, and enough changes in a five
minute tune to make you go utterly mental... sounds like hardcore to me!

Example; one of my favorite tracks, probably not what most people would
consider "hardcore", but fuck if I can classify it any other way, is Jones
& Stephenson "The Fourth Rebirth" on Bonzai.  That's what, an Italian
label?  (I think?)  And they're Dutch if memory serves me right.  Probably
came out in 1995 or 1996.  But it's as mental as anything the Brits were
doing in 92 or 93.  Chimes, an acid bassline, the breakbeat from SL2's
"DJs Take Control", and vocals from Kariya pitched up so far beyond the
realm of chipmunk it's absolutely insane, screaming out "Baby let me love
you for the baby let me love you for the baby let me love you for the
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!".   I'm sure a million people will jump on me,
saying "That's not hardcore, that's speed trance or acid gabber or Dutch
techno or whatever the fuck"... well, whatever.

Me personally, I'm sick and tired of classifying and subclassifying every
last piece of music out there, pigeonholing it into its tight, tiny little
genre and closing off the possibility that, maybe, just maybe, there's a
worthwhile piece of music out there that might not fit the ever so narrow
definition that you want it to fit into.

Wow.

I'm on a rant today.  When was the last time the list has seen this much
traffic?  @_@

Take care,
- Chris Purity

P.S.  That Jones & Stephenson track... I only have it in MP3 as of right
now, but once I get my hands on the vinyl, you can damn well bet that it's
going to be going up on Breakizm as an EP Of The Week.  Oh yes, my
pressssssshhhhhhoussssss.  ;)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:29:37 -0800 (PST), Purity Control 
<purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

> She said:
>> >> There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends
>> >> that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)
> Then he said:
>> > That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.
> Then she said again:
>> > Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.  Get it right.
> And he said:
>> Breakcore is that shit like Alec Empire and DJ Scud.  That's Gabber, not
>> Hardcore.
>
> And I say... FUCK IT!  It's all hardcore.  Is the shit that Panacea's 
> been
> doing on the KFA label over the past year that vastly different from what
> DJ Peshay and Bizzy B were doing in 1993?


No, of course not, they are both Hardcore.




boh boh!




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

Definitely second that - The First Rebirth is an amzing tune. The Red Jerry
Mix is the one I like, its one of the tracks that got me into
psy-trance/nu-nrg back in 97.


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> She said:
> > >> There are alot of small parties in downtown brooklyn on the weekends
> > >> that cater to hardcore (they call it breakcore)
> Then he said:
> > > That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.
> Then she said again:
> > > Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.  Get it right.
> And he said:
> > Breakcore is that shit like Alec Empire and DJ Scud.  That's Gabber, not
> > Hardcore.
>
> And I say... FUCK IT!  It's all hardcore.  Is the shit that Panacea's been
> doing on the KFA label over the past year that vastly different from what
> DJ Peshay and Bizzy B were doing in 1993?  I could give half a crap where
> it comes from; if it's got wicked as fuck breaks, vamped-up stabs,
> chipmunks, possibly a four-to-the-floor, and enough changes in a five
> minute tune to make you go utterly mental... sounds like hardcore to me!
>
> Example; one of my favorite tracks, probably not what most people would
> consider "hardcore", but fuck if I can classify it any other way, is Jones
> & Stephenson "The Fourth Rebirth" on Bonzai.  That's what, an Italian
> label?  (I think?)  And they're Dutch if memory serves me right.  Probably
> came out in 1995 or 1996.  But it's as mental as anything the Brits were
> doing in 92 or 93.  Chimes, an acid bassline, the breakbeat from SL2's
> "DJs Take Control", and vocals from Kariya pitched up so far beyond the
> realm of chipmunk it's absolutely insane, screaming out "Baby let me love
> you for the baby let me love you for the baby let me love you for the
> niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight!".   I'm sure a million people will jump on me,
> saying "That's not hardcore, that's speed trance or acid gabber or Dutch
> techno or whatever the fuck"... well, whatever.
>
> Me personally, I'm sick and tired of classifying and subclassifying every
> last piece of music out there, pigeonholing it into its tight, tiny little
> genre and closing off the possibility that, maybe, just maybe, there's a
> worthwhile piece of music out there that might not fit the ever so narrow
> definition that you want it to fit into.
>
> Wow.
>
> I'm on a rant today.  When was the last time the list has seen this much
> traffic?  @_@
>
> Take care,
> - Chris Purity
>
> P.S.  That Jones & Stephenson track... I only have it in MP3 as of right
> now, but once I get my hands on the vinyl, you can damn well bet that it's
> going to be going up on Breakizm as an EP Of The Week.  Oh yes, my
> pressssssshhhhhhoussssss.  ;)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:
> > And I say... FUCK IT!  It's all hardcore.  Is the shit that Panacea's
> > been
> > doing on the KFA label over the past year that vastly different from what
> > DJ Peshay and Bizzy B were doing in 1993?
>
> No, of course not, they are both Hardcore.

And see, maybe that's my problem; I can't really tell much of a difference
between the stuff that Panacea does and the stuff that DJ Scud (who you
claim is "Gabber" not "Hardcore") does.  Sounds pretty damned similar to
me -- hell, I thought they did an album together, not to mention that
remix he did of "King Of The Jungle" on the Underground Superstardom LP.
Alec Empire, his Atari Teenage Riot stuff notwithstanding, I've a couple
EPs of his on Force Inc, and it's pretty damn ruff and rugged stuff.

I just can't really see the distinction here, or where you're coming from
specifically.  Any chance you could maybe explain it further, then?

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Soopaslooth wrote:
> Definitely second that - The First Rebirth is an amzing tune. The Red Jerry
> Mix is the one I like, its one of the tracks that got me into
> psy-trance/nu-nrg back in 97.

First Rebirth is a good tune as well, but that's not the one I'm on
about... if you haven't heard _Fourth_ Rebirth, you definitely owe it to
yourself to check it out.  I'm currently sharing it on Soulseek (user
name dj_purity_control__), but if you can't grab it off me, do a search
there as well -- that is, if you can't wait for me to put it up on
Breakizm (date to be determined).

Trust me, you won't regret it.

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

ah, yes I misread and thought you said first not fourth.

I dont have soulseek so I'll have to wait for it to appear on breakizm, but
I'm quite keen for a listen to this :)



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> On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Soopaslooth wrote:
> > Definitely second that - The First Rebirth is an amzing tune. The Red
Jerry
> > Mix is the one I like, its one of the tracks that got me into
> > psy-trance/nu-nrg back in 97.
>
> First Rebirth is a good tune as well, but that's not the one I'm on
> about... if you haven't heard _Fourth_ Rebirth, you definitely owe it to
> yourself to check it out.  I'm currently sharing it on Soulseek (user
> name dj_purity_control__), but if you can't grab it off me, do a search
> there as well -- that is, if you can't wait for me to put it up on
> Breakizm (date to be determined).
>
> Trust me, you won't regret it.
>
> Take care,
> - Chris Purity
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) NASA

Let the boy live his dream we all know the score ;) and know what's what.
I know somebody very similar and like Entropy who is quite good on the
decks, why don't you rather work on somebody your not t spend that time
working on who you want to be and then one day it may come true.

Entropy is harmless and does actually contribute allot to this list and with
out him it would not be the same.
We all love ya really mate :)

So young lady (Kelly is it?) you obviously feel very passionately about this
subject, just chill roll and role a phat one.
It's nice having chicks on the list, u fit? J/k what's your story then you
obviously have allot to say and seem a nice gal away from the twisted hatred
towards you know who.

Easy

Chris



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DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 03:05:48
+0100, Chris_F.O.L
wrote:

Wow - your wit has astounded me, Ian... 'he / she / it' ???  Nothing like
calling someone names to make yourself sound incredibly intelligent and to
show how right you are on the subject.  For the record...I am female.


> So as somebody stated earlier are you as really big as you say you are?
Yes, of course.


No you aren't, Ian....like I said - you DO NOT play in new york.  I live in
NY, I have partied all over the East Coast from Vermont to Detroit to Miami
and pretty much everywhere in between.  My friends are major promoters in NY
and well-known DJ's from California to New York.  You are not a known person
or DJ - and like I said - if it wasn't for you being so damn vocal on these
lists, then I wouldn't know who you are either.  I personally used to throw
parties...never heard of you on that circuit.  So, stop talking all your
shit to these people overseas who don't know you and you can fool into
believing that you're a big name dj.  You are nobody....you do not play in
the United States...and if you can prove me wrong, please do.  If you are so
good (america's #1 hardcore dj & producer, right?) then you should be
playing at (at least) 3 MAJOR events in the next month....please let me know
what events you will be at in April so you can prove to me, and everyone
else you've been
 bullshitting, that you were right.  Otherwise, just be yourself and stop
lying to make people like you...thats a pretty pathetic route to take.  And
makes you look the fool.





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Subject: RE: (oldschool) that E bust

So when are all you gonna start replenishing the load?


...







j/k

_____________________________________ 
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 13:10:08 -0800 (PST), kdorman11@yahoo.com 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yea - I heard they got arrested with (all together) about 500,000 pills, 
> 12 guns and $6 million.  How can they transport it in gas tanks?  It 
> seems impossible to not get the gas and fumes all over the e and is a 
> cars gas tank that big??


I'd assume in some sort of waterproof case/bags?

And yeah, gas tanks are pretty big, ya gotta think, they hold 30-50 
gallons of liquid, that's a decent size.





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On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 15:40:19 -0800 (PST), Purity Control 
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> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:
>> > And I say... FUCK IT!  It's all hardcore.  Is the shit that Panacea's
>> > been
>> > doing on the KFA label over the past year that vastly different from 
>> what
>> > DJ Peshay and Bizzy B were doing in 1993?
>>
>> No, of course not, they are both Hardcore.
>
> And see, maybe that's my problem; I can't really tell much of a 
> difference
> between the stuff that Panacea does and the stuff that DJ Scud (who you
> claim is "Gabber" not "Hardcore") does.


They are much different.  Hardcore doesn't use distorted beats/drums, 
Gabber (usually) does.


Breakcore occassionally does crossover, as you mentioned, with Scd doing 
some stuff that is very Hardcore-ish, like his stuff with Panacea, but 
that's just a very very small section of Breakcore.



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:
> They are much different.  Hardcore doesn't use distorted beats/drums,

Weren't you just the one saying you're sick and tired of pussified amens,
and producers needed to distort it more?  Or am I misremembering?

> Breakcore occassionally does crossover, as you mentioned, with Scd doing
> some stuff that is very Hardcore-ish, like his stuff with Panacea, but
> that's just a very very small section of Breakcore.

...meh.

IT'S ALL HARDCORE.  ^_^;

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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Subject: (oldschool) Gabber

Just to clarify...

I was under the impression that the defining characteristic of "gabber"
was the heavy, overdriven 4-to-the-floor kickdrum, usually pretty fucking
fast -- stuff like old Industrial Strength and Mokum records.  Maybe
that's why I'm just not seeing "breakcore is gabber".

But whatever.  :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:22:44 -0800 (PST), Purity Control 
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> On Thu, 1 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:
>> They are much different.  Hardcore doesn't use distorted beats/drums,
>
> Weren't you just the one saying you're sick and tired of pussified amens,
> and producers needed to distort it more?  Or am I misremembering?


No, not distortion, compression.  Most beats are way too pussified, and 
need loudness and maximizers.




> IT'S ALL HARDCORE.  ^_^;


Unless it isn't.




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Gabber

On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:25:56 -0800 (PST), Purity Control 
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> I was under the impression that the defining characteristic of "gabber"
> was the heavy, overdriven 4-to-the-floor kickdrum, usually pretty fucking
> fast -- stuff like old Industrial Strength and Mokum records.  Maybe
> that's why I'm just not seeing "breakcore is gabber".


Breakcore is a derivative of that stuff.





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Subject: (oldschool) Re: [personal] (oldschool) Gabber

How would you classify "Deadly Buda" ? I think its hardcore. It seems
like he is focused on making a movie rather than records, but he did DJ
out a few months ago in Denver.

Just joined this list, looks phun so far :)

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) just heard the news

Cmon boys and girls, you stole the language from us...the least you can
do is keep up with it!!!!!8)
clarkee

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hehe...thanks for the english lesson  =)
 
Didn't realize you were on this list as well...I heard of All
Saints...they had one mellow song about being treated bad, but that's as
far as they ever got over here.  All the chicks were def smokin tho.
 
Kinda figured out what skint meant...based on the context it was used.
I have learned alot of 'britisms' since I've joined.  It's actually
quite amusing.

jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
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> Cmon that's a crap april fools joke....I mean would you leave the 
> house if you were married to an Appleton sister?? Clarkee
> Jealous as hell
> Northampton

Wow, some of those Britisms aren't making sense to these Yank ears. Is
[oldschool] a UK centric listserve?

Had to look up the Appleton reference. FYI (directed at me State mates),
they were in All Saints who never quite caught on here in the States.
Guess they might be the equivalent of Jessica Simpson who some like to
look at but is apparently not much brighter than a burnt out lightbulb.

BTW, had to look up "skint" too.
1. broke, bust, skint, stone-broke, stony-broke -- (lacking funds;
"`skint' is a British slang term")

Jasper

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ANYONE THAT KNOWS ME STILL ON LIST

Welcome back Lex!!

I'm still here, the usual crew are around somewhere. Quite a few of them
going to Club Lockup tomorrow night at EQ in Stratford, you going? If so
catch ya there mate

Dave

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hi people...been away for  couple of years. who's still on here.
Dean, the matt's, the rest of u lot...gurn monkey...just been reminising
over some old photos on the back to the odlksool site...memories...god 5
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Hi all, sorry if it seems I've been ignoring anyone, but I managed to become
one of those people succumbing to the mumps "epidemic" the papers were
talking about last week, and have been sick for the past 10 days or so.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Wicked Atmospherics Remix

This remix is great, as is the original - nice one!

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> A quick shameless plug.....
>
> I've just finished a remix of Tim Cant's tune "Wicked Atmospherics".
>
> Its in a floaty 93 bukem/omni trio sort of style. Would be good if people
> could have a listen and let me know what they think, as always feedback is
> greatly appreciated :)
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> MP3 - 6.7MB
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easy mate, there's a few old people still on here, but most of us dont post 
much anymore...


anyone else going Slammin' tomorrow??

Rich

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>hi people...been away for  couple of years. who's still on here.
>Dean, the matt's, the rest of u lot...gurn monkey...just been reminising 
>over some old photos on the back to the odlksool site...memories...god 5 
>years has past...anyway who's out there...

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We're keeping up with the core developments. It's the slang that gets us.
Do all Brits understand Cockney slang? My guess is that a majority of
America would not know a lot of the slang from urban, hip-hop heavy areas.
Jasper

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Clarkee wrote:

> Cmon boys and girls, you stole the language from us...the least you can
> do is keep up with it!!!!!8)
> clarkee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kdorman11@yahoo.com [mailto:kdorman11@yahoo.com]
>
> hehe...thanks for the english lesson  =)
>
> Didn't realize you were on this list as well...I heard of All
> Saints...they had one mellow song about being treated bad, but that's as
> far as they ever got over here.  All the chicks were def smokin tho.
>
> Kinda figured out what skint meant...based on the context it was used.
> I have learned alot of 'britisms' since I've joined.  It's actually
> quite amusing.
>
> jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>
> Wow, some of those Britisms aren't making sense to these Yank ears. Is
> [oldschool] a UK centric listserve?
>
> Had to look up the Appleton reference. FYI (directed at me State mates),
> they were in All Saints who never quite caught on here in the States.
> Guess they might be the equivalent of Jessica Simpson who some like to
> look at but is apparently not much brighter than a burnt out lightbulb.
>
> BTW, had to look up "skint" too.
> 1. broke, bust, skint, stone-broke, stony-broke -- (lacking funds;
> "`skint' is a British slang term")
>
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Only joshing me ole mukka.....
Have a sorted weekend.
Respec
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www.clarkee.me.uk



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We're keeping up with the core developments. It's the slang that gets
us. Do all Brits understand Cockney slang? My guess is that a majority
of America would not know a lot of the slang from urban, hip-hop heavy
areas. Jasper

On Fri, 2 Apr 2004, Clarkee wrote:

> Cmon boys and girls, you stole the language from us...the least you 
> can do is keep up with it!!!!!8) clarkee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: kdorman11@yahoo.com [mailto:kdorman11@yahoo.com]
>
> hehe...thanks for the english lesson  =)
>
> Didn't realize you were on this list as well...I heard of All 
> Saints...they had one mellow song about being treated bad, but that's 
> as far as they ever got over here.  All the chicks were def smokin 
> tho.
>
> Kinda figured out what skint meant...based on the context it was used.

> I have learned alot of 'britisms' since I've joined.  It's actually 
> quite amusing.
>
> jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> wrote:
>
> Wow, some of those Britisms aren't making sense to these Yank ears. Is

> [oldschool] a UK centric listserve?
>
> Had to look up the Appleton reference. FYI (directed at me State 
> mates), they were in All Saints who never quite caught on here in the 
> States. Guess they might be the equivalent of Jessica Simpson who some

> like to look at but is apparently not much brighter than a burnt out 
> lightbulb.
>
> BTW, had to look up "skint" too.
> 1. broke, bust, skint, stone-broke, stony-broke -- (lacking funds; 
> "`skint' is a British slang term")
>
> Jasper

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hi dave. how's it going....went to a telepathy at EQ at xmas and it was
fukcin awful. proper dive...might come along. be nice to see some of u
lot/...its been a while...
----- Original Message ----- 
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> Welcome back Lex!!
>
> I'm still here, the usual crew are around somewhere. Quite a few of them
> going to Club Lockup tomorrow night at EQ in Stratford, you going? If so
> catch ya there mate
>
> Dave
>
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> hi people...been away for  couple of years. who's still on here.
> Dean, the matt's, the rest of u lot...gurn monkey...just been reminising
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hiya.... good to see the list is still going...we should arrange a meetup
for us lot that used to meet a few years back..would be a laugh.
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>
> easy mate, there's a few old people still on here, but most of us dont
post
> much anymore...
>
>
> anyone else going Slammin' tomorrow??
>
> Rich
>
> >From: "lex" <lex21@btinternet.com>
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Hope you're feeling better!



On Fri, 2 Apr 2004 09:31:42 +0100, David Curran 
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> Hi all, sorry if it seems I've been ignoring anyone, but I managed to 
> become
> one of those people succumbing to the mumps "epidemic" the papers were
> talking about last week, and have been sick for the past 10 days or so.
>
> Back in today though, so back up to speed! I'll try and get all my PMs 
> and
> emails replied to by lunch.
>
> Cheers!
> Dave



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hi people...been away for  couple of years. who's still on here.
Dean, the matt's, the rest of u lot...gurn monkey...just been reminising 
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Hello Lex mate....been awhile indeed pal. I have moved from North London 
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from you.
cheers

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Stictly for the hardcore, no anthems, no talk, just top tunes for 2 hours!!!

www.newtechpirates.co.uk

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Subject: (oldschool) DJ Entropy's NASA review!

Candace and I met up with Sara, Dani, Evan Sonik, and B at around 3pm.  
Got down to Chinatown at about 4:30, and hopped on the 5pm Chinatown bus 
(Boston to NYC).  After a 4 hour journey, we arrived on Chrystie St (like 
the Beastie Boys, heh) in Manhattan.  Walked down Canal and found 
Shelter/Arc.  Got in line for the party at about 9:45pm.  The doors opened 
at about 10:40pm, and we got inside within 20 minutes.


Here's a rundown of the sets (of which I saw):


Odi in the back room - wikked 92 and 93 bizness.  Got me really goin right 
away!  Woo!

MOBY on the main floor! - Opened up with "Go!" and ended with "1000", and 
in between played some Altern-8, some 91 piano stompers, and a housey 
remix of "Porcelain".  Wikked set!  Very eclectic.

DB on the main floor - Some 91 and 92 bizness, varied between breakbeat 
and stompers.

DIMITRI (from Deee-Lite) on the main floor! - Very housey set, didn't hear 
much of it, but heard some classic 88-89 piano house anthems, good stuff.

Frankie Bones on the main floor - this was a bit questionable.  Harbored 
in the hard techno/early gabber area for a while, which was cool, but then 
dropped some booty breaks??? and "Work It" by DJ Funk!?  I have no idea 
what that was doing in there.  I got into some of his gabber-ish stuff, 
but then I took off and chilled in the back room for a bit:

DB in the back room - Some more 90-91 goodness.  Solid set.

Soul Slinger in the main room - weird old skool housey/techno, all mashed 
up into the classic Soul Slinger style.  Didn't get into too much of his 
set, but he did play this wikked jungle tune at the end of his set 
("Remember when..........jungle had soulllllllll?")  :)

Scott Henry on the main floor - great anthemy 92 set, really energetic!  
Had a blast dancin to him!

We took a rest in the back room and coat check room for a bit before Odi's 
closing set in the main room:

Odi in the main room - Woohoo!  I love the last sets of a rave, they are 
always just ballstothewall!  Heard a couple Hyper On E tunes, some Acen, 
some Seduction, some Andy C, wikkedness!


Met up with Darcy, Mike, Legba, Dean, and Jill!  Always good to see you 
guys!  *hugs*



Wikked night.  Total Hardcore Rave craziness.  Thanks to Scotto and the 
crew! Good stuff.  boh boh!




Top tunes for the night:

Far Out - Sonz of de loop de loop era (heard it 5 times!)
Hardcore Heaven - DJ Seduction (heard it 4 times!)
Close Your Eyes (optikifusion) - Acen (heard it 3 times!)
Trip II The Moon part 3 - Acen (heard it 3 times, heard part 1 once, and 
never heard part 2!)
Don't Go - Awesome 3 (heard it 3 times!)
Valley Of The Shadows - Andy C (heard it 3 times!)
Thunder Grip - Hyper On E (heard it twice!)
Music Takes You - Blame (heard it 3 times!)
Plastic Dreams - Jaydee (heard it twice!)
French Kiss - Lil Louie Vega (heard it twice!)

and of course tons and tons of Prodigy  :)


Few tunes I wanted to hear, but didn't:
The Horn Track - Egyptian Empire
Powerpill - Aphex Twin
Window In The Sky - Acen
Narra Mine - Genacide II
Fire When Ready (alternate version) - G Double E
Edge Of Darkness - Luna C
some Bizzy B or some heavy darkside

Next time perhaps!  ;)



And thank all that is holy and sacred, Odi dropped "Lord Of The Null 
Lines" (original mix) in his final set!!!






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> Far Out - Sonz of de loop de loop era (heard it 5 times!)
> Hardcore Heaven - DJ Seduction (heard it 4 times!)
> Close Your Eyes (optikifusion) - Acen (heard it 3 times!)
> Don't Go - Awesome 3 (heard it 3 times!)
> Valley Of The Shadows - Andy C (heard it 3 times!)

You have the same problem as over here then! 

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>> Far Out - Sonz of de loop de loop era (heard it 5 times!)
>> Hardcore Heaven - DJ Seduction (heard it 4 times!)
>> Close Your Eyes (optikifusion) - Acen (heard it 3 times!)
>> Don't Go - Awesome 3 (heard it 3 times!)
>> Valley Of The Shadows - Andy C (heard it 3 times!)
>
> You have the same problem as over here then!


Yeah, that's all I could think about when I kept hearing the same tunes:  
all you guys bitching about just that, heh

I'm not gonna complain tho, cause an old skool jam comes through 
oh-so-rarely in these parts  =)



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> Thunder Grip - Hyper On E (heard it twice!)


I've never heard that at a rave, u lucky bast!!!!


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Dont get me wrong, they are all top tunes.
But it starts to wear about thin when you hear them time and time again at
every event...

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> Dont get me wrong, they are all top tunes.
> But it starts to wear about thin when you hear them time and time again 
> at every event...


Oh, I can imagine.



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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:45:03 +0100, Tim Cant <tim.cant@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>> Thunder Grip - Hyper On E (heard it twice!)
>
>
> I've never heard that at a rave, u lucky bast!!!!


Yeah!  I didn't expect any Hyper On E, as it's fairly rare (at least over 
here), I was psyched!




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Hmm... there are pics or recorded sets?

Xperience
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Enviado el: lunes, 05 de abril de 2004 7:45
Para: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 22:45:03 +0100, Tim Cant <tim.cant@ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
>
>> Thunder Grip - Hyper On E (heard it twice!)
>
>
> I've never heard that at a rave, u lucky bast!!!!


Yeah!  I didn't expect any Hyper On E, as it's fairly rare (at least
over 
here), I was psyched!




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On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:

> Shelter/Arc.  Got in line for the party at about 9:45pm.  The doors opened
> at about 10:40pm, and we got inside within 20 minutes.

Wow, you guys were eager. Didn't get there until 11:30 and the door scene
was ridiculous, just like old days. Took us over an hour to get in -- so
disorganized. If someone would have just told people that will-call had to
talk to this one poor girl with a clipboard giving out the tickets it
would have made things SO much easier. Instead the meathead house security
kept telling people it was the same line and to keep half the sidewalk
clear. Ridiculous line-cutting going on!

> Here's a rundown of the sets (of which I saw):

<snip>

> Top tunes for the night:
>
> Far Out - Sonz of de loop de loop era (heard it 5 times!)
> Hardcore Heaven - DJ Seduction (heard it 4 times!)
> Close Your Eyes (optikifusion) - Acen (heard it 3 times!)
> Trip II The Moon part 3 - Acen (heard it 3 times, heard part 1 once, and
> never heard part 2!)
> Don't Go - Awesome 3 (heard it 3 times!)
> Valley Of The Shadows - Andy C (heard it 3 times!)
> Thunder Grip - Hyper On E (heard it twice!)
> Music Takes You - Blame (heard it 3 times!)
> Plastic Dreams - Jaydee (heard it twice!)
> French Kiss - Lil Louie Vega (heard it twice!)

How the heck did you remember all that?! I'm impressed. All I know is
"Strings of Life" is a fine classic tune and a respectful nod to May but
jeeze, I do not need to hear that song in every set on every floor. I am
certain I heard it no less than four times. Were you taking notes or
something?

> and of course tons and tons of Prodigy  :)
>
> Few tunes I wanted to hear, but didn't:
> The Horn Track - Egyptian Empire
> Powerpill - Aphex Twin
> Window In The Sky - Acen
> Narra Mine - Genacide II
> Fire When Ready (alternate version) - G Double E
> Edge Of Darkness - Luna C
> some Bizzy B or some heavy darkside

I'm not really familiar with all the classics by name because frankly I'm
not that into rave breaks which is predominant what was played or what I'd
call it. But the crowd made it all worth it. I haven't seen a crowd like
that in NYC in SOOO long. People for the most part were hyped up and
happy. Definitely one of my top 10.

Rumor has it that Liam Howlett was supposed to be there. Was he? Totally
missed Moby which was too bad.

Jasper

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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:01:49 +0100, Xperience <acenadsl@terra.es> wrote:

> Hmm... there are pics or recorded sets?


I found a few pics online:

<http://riotsound.com/Events/2004/NasaRewindApr2004/NasaRewindApr2004_Images.htm>


As for recorded sets, according to Scotto's website, he has every set from 
NASA EVER recorded on DAT, and there will be a DVD/sets coming out at some 
point:


www.drop.com:

"also : this site will make available cassettes and CD's of the recorded 
music from each and every Dj at each event that we've ever done! That's 
right! All events over the years have been photographed, videoed and the 
Dj sets and live performances have all been recorded to D.A.T. and held in 
Scotto's secret vault. Over 10 years of Dj set's and over 500 hours of 
video footage is being edited down now for possible release as a 
documentary film or DVD TV series.
So stay tuned as we get more and more up on this biaatch!"






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On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:38:13 -0700 (PDT), jasper <jasper@hyperreal.org> 
wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Apr 2004, DJ Entropy wrote:
>
>> Shelter/Arc.  Got in line for the party at about 9:45pm.  The doors 
>> opened
>> at about 10:40pm, and we got inside within 20 minutes.
>
> Wow, you guys were eager.


Well, we had to travel 4 hours to get there, didn't want to miss anything!



>> Top tunes for the night:
>>
>> Far Out - Sonz of de loop de loop era (heard it 5 times!)
>> Hardcore Heaven - DJ Seduction (heard it 4 times!)
>> Close Your Eyes (optikifusion) - Acen (heard it 3 times!)
>> Trip II The Moon part 3 - Acen (heard it 3 times, heard part 1 once, and
>> never heard part 2!)
>> Don't Go - Awesome 3 (heard it 3 times!)
>> Valley Of The Shadows - Andy C (heard it 3 times!)
>> Thunder Grip - Hyper On E (heard it twice!)
>> Music Takes You - Blame (heard it 3 times!)
>> Plastic Dreams - Jaydee (heard it twice!)
>> French Kiss - Lil Louie Vega (heard it twice!)
>
> How the heck did you remember all that?! I'm impressed.


I have a good memory!  Years of drug use didn't hinder that  =)


> All I know is
> "Strings of Life" is a fine classic tune and a respectful nod to May but
> jeeze, I do not need to hear that song in every set on every floor. I am
> certain I heard it no less than four times.


Yeah, I forgot to mention that tune.  I heard it a bunch as well.


> Were you taking notes or
> something?


No, but that guy in the wheelchair was!  Did you see him?  What was he 
typing!?


> I'm not really familiar with all the classics by name because frankly I'm
> not that into rave breaks which is predominant what was played or what 
> I'd call it.


Hardcore!


> Rumor has it that Liam Howlett was supposed to be there. Was he?


Nope.  I heard he was going to be as well, but he wasn't.  Oh well.


> Totally
> missed Moby which was too bad.


That sucks.  Should got there earlier  ;)




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Amazing...to sum it up in one word.  The energy was insane...the music was incredible...the people I saw there were OLD friends.
 
Ok....to start with - I got there when it opened...1st ones in the door.  The music was playing and it really brought me back.  It would have been nice to maybe decorate like it used to look, but I know that that's sometimes a pain in the ass.  Odi was playing in the back room from 10-12:30...he was playing the BEST tunes of the night.  I'm glad I got there early to hear the better tunes while there was still room to dance...bc the only bad part of the night was the overcrowding of the place by about 2ish.  I heard Joey Beltram, Altern-8, Acen, Bizarre Inc, 2 bad mice, 4 hero, sonz of a loop da loop...ahhhhhh, it was pure heaven.
 
Next thing you know, they're announcing over the mic that Moby stopped by and was going to spin a surprise set.  Now, I usually hate the guy, I don't like his current music and it's been so long since he spun the good shit that I forgot that he used to be good.  He used to play some dancing tunes back in the caffeine days.  Now, he played perfectly.  Great selection on everyone's part except Soulslinger - don't know what happened to his recs from back then, but he must've sold them or threw them out.  He was playing some recs from 97-98ish.  Also...his records kept skipping.  By then it was getting crowded in there, so I needed to get some breathing space.  Before I knew it, it was soooo crowded, I couldn't even breathe, none-the-less dance.  So, I took this time to mingle...and I saw some old skool heads from WAYYYY back in the day that wouldn't even go to a party now for various reasons.  And that's really why I wanted to go, aside from hearing amazing tunes that bring me back 10
 years.  I saw some people that I thought I would never see again.  And that's why I liked it.
 
Ummm...I got out of there around 6ish - due to my schedule I was way past my bedtime.  And all of Sunday was spent in bed recuperating.  I'm so tired in work today I could just crawl under my desk and pass out - if I thought I could get away with it.  ;)
 
To all those who made it - it was a memorable event.  To all those that didn't shame on you, you missed the best party in about 8 yrs.
 
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DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Were you taking notes or
> something?


No, but that guy in the wheelchair was! Did you see him? What was he 
typing!?


That was odd to me - I have seen people bring books & stuff to write down thoughts and numbers, but that guy had a old typewriter and was typing all night, under one light, then to the next.  Maybe he was part of a magazine...alot of people kept interrupting him and reading over his shoulder.  But I found that rude...I would rather be curious.



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Guys
Did anyone tape all this series when it was on a few years ago.
 
Anyone know where i can get a copy [download /dvd]
 
Appreciate your input, Kazza is shite and e donkey is rubbish
 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Channel 4 - pump up the volume

i have 1 n 2 in real media

any good to ya?

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> Guys
> Did anyone tape all this series when it was on a few years ago.
>  
> Anyone know where i can get a copy [download /dvd]
>  
> Appreciate your input, Kazza is shite and e donkey is rubbish
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> www.clarkee.me.uk
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>  
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Channel 4 - pump up the volume

Yeah defo, how can I get em?
They on a server or summat?
Let me know...appreciated.

Anyone else got the other part/s
Cheers
Clarkee



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i have 1 n 2 in real media

any good to ya?

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> Guys
> Did anyone tape all this series when it was on a few years ago.
>  
> Anyone know where i can get a copy [download /dvd]
>  
> Appreciate your input, Kazza is shite and e donkey is rubbish
>  
> Regards
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> www.clarkee.me.uk
>  
>  
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Channel 4 - pump up the volume

atm, they just on me HD, nut uploaded anywhere 
cos dont have space at the mo 

but should be gettin sorted soon
if all else fails i can just stick on a cd

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> Yeah defo, how can I get em?
> They on a server or summat?
> Let me know...appreciated.
> 
> Anyone else got the other part/s
> Cheers
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> 
> 
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> i have 1 n 2 in real media
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> > Anyone know where i can get a copy [download /dvd]
> >  
> > Appreciate your input, Kazza is shite and e donkey is rubbish
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Channel 4 - pump up the volume

R u in the uk?
Ill send you a few blank cd-r now if ya like
Clarkee


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atm, they just on me HD, nut uploaded anywhere 
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if all else fails i can just stick on a cd

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> Yeah defo, how can I get em?
> They on a server or summat?
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> 
> Anyone else got the other part/s
> Cheers
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> 
> 
> 
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> i have 1 n 2 in real media
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> > Anyone know where i can get a copy [download /dvd]
> >  
> > Appreciate your input, Kazza is shite and e donkey is rubbish
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Channel 4 - pump up the volume

If you e-mail them to me I can put them up for a bit for people to d/l if
you like.
(If they're not **massive** files...)


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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) ANYONE THAT KNOWS ME STILL ON LIST


I still think the Sanc and the fastrack are easily the best venues in the 
country (apart maybe from the SE1).

As for the lineups, me and my mates are getting pissed off with the crap 
Raindance seem to be giving us every time we go there now....thats why I 
travel 2 hours further to go to Milton Keynes!

Apart from Mark EG playing the most depressingly boring set that mot people 
in the Fastrack had ever heard, it was a wicked night with sm awesome music.

Styles' last was a good thing I think, except for some idiot collapsing 30 
seconds from the end





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>TBH, I am fed up with the Sanc and the line-ups! Will be going to flyer it 
>but I doubt I am going inside, am skint too tho!!
>
>
> > easy mate, there's a few old people still on here, but most of us dont 
>post
> >much anymore...
> >
> >
> >anyone else going Slammin' tomorrow??
> >
> >Rich
> >
> >From: "lex" <lex21@btinternet.com>
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> >Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 00:46:48 +0100
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> >hi people...been away for  couple of years. who's still on here.
> >Dean, the matt's, the rest of u lot...gurn monkey...just been reminising
> >over some old photos on the back to the odlksool site...memories...god 5
> >years has past...anyway who's out there...
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Subject: (oldschool) Pump Up The Volume links

http://deephousepage.com/pumpupthevolume.ram

http://www.mattladner.com/putv/pumpupthevolume2.rm

http://www.mattladner.com/putv/pumpupthevolume3.rm



Is this what you guys were lookin for?




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Well done you fellas!!!!!!!




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http://deephousepage.com/pumpupthevolume.ram

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whoOO hoo part 3

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Any ideas on these tunes?? Ripped from the oldskool section on there forum
at www.feeling-of-life.com

1.Rockin down the house, do u rocket roc,rocket do urocket down the house.

2.yeah yea yea yeahh I feel this way ay. Hey ey yeah I feel this
way....Makes me feel so good when u TOUCH Me.
Hyponitise me when u touch me.

3.Don't waste your time u know its right cause you'll regret it for the rest
of your life.

4.Two months later she said come and get your son cause I don't want your
baby to be tying me down. Cause you are old and I am young and while I'm
young yeas I wanna have some fun.

5. I get that feeling sometimes I just cant wait. Don't let me wait, don't
let me wait---Don't let me wait don't let me wait ---

6.Ahh Ahh your sweet sensation ahh ahh ahhyour sweet sensation.

7.Oh Oh Oh I want ,u I want u Forever.

8.Sunshine on a rainy day makes my soul trip trip trip away.

9.Heaven is place I will always believe in cos u make me feel feel like
loving u.

10.Can u feel the fire burning as it takes control of u. There is no-where u
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hi gang i have asked this yrs ago and had no joy=20

i am looking for a copy of dreamscape 14 was the hallowen ball in 1994 =
oct/ nov=20

i used to own the video but lent it out and never got it back as per =
usual has anyone got a copy for sale=20

im on the video  looking a little smashed out of my face on tangerine =
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plz can someone help me source a copy=20

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hi guys i know u can help me i have this tune on a disc somewhere but am =
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it has the Voice over '' LONDON MASSIVE ''=20
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I think i've seen it on IMO Records time ago...

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Second to last track... Tra la la boom... I've been looking for that
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Lee

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune ID LONDON MASSIVE

Think you might be on about Jack Horner & DJ Pulse "Summer In The South"
on Creative Wax CW001.  That's like the only vocals in the tune.  But
there's quite a few tunes that have a "London massive" sample in them...

Take care,
- Chris Purity

On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, tony wrote:

> hi guys i know u can help me i have this tune on a disc somewhere but am fucked if i can remember the name of it
>
> it has the Voice over '' LONDON MASSIVE ''
> and some kick asse drums in the back ground its like 93 ish i believe may even be late 92
>
> good luck
> ta
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> P.S plz save me from going thru 100 discs of oldskool tunes to find it

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on 7/4/04 12:43 AM, Chris_Reason at chris@stwsh.com wrote:

> Any ideas on these tunes?? Ripped from the oldskool section on there forum
> at www.feeling-of-life.com
> 
> 1.Rockin down the house, do u rocket roc,rocket do urocket down the house.

M17 - Rockin Down the House


> 6.Ahh Ahh your sweet sensation ahh ahh ahhyour sweet sensation.

Shades of Rhythm - Sweet Sensation

> 
> 7.Oh Oh Oh I want ,u I want u Forever.

Carl Cox - I Want you (Forever)

> 
> 8.Sunshine on a rainy day makes my soul trip trip trip away.

Zone - Sunshine on a Rainy Day



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune ID LONDON MASSIVE

could be one of these,
 SACD001  Sacred - Do It Together (The Baggy´s Mix)
Keep on Going (Good Over Evil Mix)
Bass Keeps Going (Juju Jump Up Mix)
PUR001  Sacred- Do It Together (Remix)
As One (Remix)  ,

its the do it together track.

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hi guys i know u can help me i have this tune on a disc somewhere but am
fucked if i can remember the name of it

it has the Voice over '' LONDON MASSIVE ''
and some kick asse drums in the back ground its like 93 ish i believe may
even be late 92

good luck
ta

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> > 8.Sunshine on a rainy day makes my soul trip trip trip away.
>
> Zone - Sunshine on a Rainy Day

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune ID LONDON MASSIVE

yer man nice one chief it is sacred - lets do it together
has anyone got this hosted on a site anywhere ?

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> could be one of these,
>  SACD001  Sacred - Do It Together (The Baggy´s Mix)
> Keep on Going (Good Over Evil Mix)
> Bass Keeps Going (Juju Jump Up Mix)
> PUR001  Sacred- Do It Together (Remix)
> As One (Remix)  ,
>
> its the do it together track.
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:47 AM
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>
> hi guys i know u can help me i have this tune on a disc somewhere but am
> fucked if i can remember the name of it
>
> it has the Voice over '' LONDON MASSIVE ''
> and some kick asse drums in the back ground its like 93 ish i believe may
> even be late 92
>
> good luck
> ta
>
> P.S plz save me from going thru 100 discs of oldskool tunes to find it
>
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The 93 remix is also worth checking out ;)

Corruption Production - Love you right - Corruption (CP001)

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4.Two months later she said come and get your son cause I don't want =
your baby to be tying me down. Cause you are old and I am young and =
while I'm young yeas I wanna have some fun.=20
Rebel MC - Tribal Base=20

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loving u.=20
Ramos, Supreme & Sunset Regime - Heaven=20

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On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, Chris_Reason wrote:
> 1.Rockin down the house, do u rocket roc,rocket do urocket down the house.

MI7 - Rockin Down The House?

> 2.yeah yea yea yeahh I feel this way ay. Hey ey yeah I feel this
> way....Makes me feel so good when u TOUCH Me.
> Hyponitise me when u touch me.

M&M feat Rachel Wallace - I Feel This Way?

> 5. I get that feeling sometimes I just cant wait. Don't let me wait, don't
> let me wait---Don't let me wait don't let me wait ---

Altern 8 - E-Vapor-8?

> 6.Ahh Ahh your sweet sensation ahh ahh ahhyour sweet sensation.

Shades Of Rhythm - Sweet Sensation?

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hi again got a request have any of you got=20

(SAY NO MORE RECORDS) =20

(-next - out there)

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Subject: (oldschool) Happy Easter!

Well I'm going to be leaving work in an hour or so for a super-long Easter
weekend break (and a much-deserved one if I say so myself)... Woo Hoo!

Have a top one folks... hope you get lots of eggs or something!

Cheers,
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Dancemaster - Don't U Feel It/Kan U Feel It - Grand Larceny GL001 10"

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Can U feel
awesome tune is urs 10" too ?

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1.Rockin down the house, do u rocket roc,rocket do urocket down the house.
M17 - ROCKIN DOWN THE HOUSE

2.yeah yea yea yeahh I feel this way ay. Hey ey yeah I feel this
way....Makes me feel so good when u TOUCH Me.
Hyponitise me when u touch me.
M+m / RACHEL WALLACE - I FEEL THIS WAY

3.Don't waste your time u know its right cause you'll regret it for the 
rest
of your life.
BUG KANN AND THE PALSTIC JAM - MADE IN 2 MINUTES

4.Two months later she said come and get your son cause I don't want your
baby to be tying me down. Cause you are old and I am young and while I'm
young yeas I wanna have some fun.
REBEL MC - TRIBAL BASE

5. I get that feeling sometimes I just cant wait. Don't let me wait, don't
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ALTERN8 - EVAPOR8

6.Ahh Ahh your sweet sensation ahh ahh ahhyour sweet sensation.
SHADES OF RHYTM - SWEET SENSATION

7.Oh Oh Oh I want ,u I want u Forever.
CARL COX - I WANT YOU FOREVER

8.Sunshine on a rainy day makes my soul trip trip trip away.
ZOE - SUNSHINE ON A RAINY DAY

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AGGGGH KNOW IT BUT CAN'T PLACE IT

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u
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Hiya,

I got a bubbling feeling this one is gonna be massive. 

Might just be the excitement of having just been down to Sapphire Sounds and
bought a whole bunch of wicked lights for the night - proper goods ones.
They were out of stock of lasers :(  but will have one for the next event.
Also got off me arse for this one and done some flyering.

Anyway if there is anyone left on the list and your around London this
weekend details re:

Demolition Cru (Eruption FM / Raindance)
Ponder and Happy Bounce (Elation 93/94/95 set)

along side your residents:

Moody, Genocide & Ambush

and special house set from:

Elusive (B2VOS 88/89 house set)


Event kicks off at 8pm through till 2am - for just £2 (if you drop us a line
for guestlist - otherwise £3 with flyer and £5 on the door).

@ Spoofers 
Holloway Road (just outside the tube station)

Your support will be will be much appreciated.

Real Oldskool and a Real Oldskool vibe.

Cheers


Steve
aka DJ Moody
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www.breakpirates.com
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Good luck wid dis one boys!

Steve

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> Hiya,
>
> I got a bubbling feeling this one is gonna be massive.
>
> Might just be the excitement of having just been down to Sapphire Sounds
and
> bought a whole bunch of wicked lights for the night - proper goods ones.
> They were out of stock of lasers :(  but will have one for the next event.
> Also got off me arse for this one and done some flyering.
>
> Anyway if there is anyone left on the list and your around London this
> weekend details re:
>
> Demolition Cru (Eruption FM / Raindance)
> Ponder and Happy Bounce (Elation 93/94/95 set)
>
> along side your residents:
>
> Moody, Genocide & Ambush
>
> and special house set from:
>
> Elusive (B2VOS 88/89 house set)
>
>
> Event kicks off at 8pm through till 2am - for just £2 (if you drop us a
line
> for guestlist - otherwise £3 with flyer and £5 on the door).
>
> @ Spoofers
> Holloway Road (just outside the tube station)
>
> Your support will be will be much appreciated.
>
> Real Oldskool and a Real Oldskool vibe.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.breakpirates.com
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till l8 - Mon
>
>
>


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) IDs for Chris

Top man
Every now and then peeps post lyrics of oldskool tracks on my forum @
www.feeling-of-life.com (in the old skool section) and we all play guess the
tune, Im shit but have the help of all you top peeps, but that's our secret,
lol.

Your certainly the top of the oldskool class guys

Chris
www.feeling-of-life.com

direct forum link
http://www.feeling-of-life.ukcompanies.org/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=Oldsk
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1.Rockin down the house, do u rocket roc,rocket do urocket down the house.
M17 - ROCKIN DOWN THE HOUSE

2.yeah yea yea yeahh I feel this way ay. Hey ey yeah I feel this
way....Makes me feel so good when u TOUCH Me.
Hyponitise me when u touch me.
M+m / RACHEL WALLACE - I FEEL THIS WAY

3.Don't waste your time u know its right cause you'll regret it for the
rest
of your life.
BUG KANN AND THE PALSTIC JAM - MADE IN 2 MINUTES

4.Two months later she said come and get your son cause I don't want your
baby to be tying me down. Cause you are old and I am young and while I'm
young yeas I wanna have some fun.
REBEL MC - TRIBAL BASE

5. I get that feeling sometimes I just cant wait. Don't let me wait, don't
let me wait---Don't let me wait don't let me wait ---
ALTERN8 - EVAPOR8

6.Ahh Ahh your sweet sensation ahh ahh ahhyour sweet sensation.
SHADES OF RHYTM - SWEET SENSATION

7.Oh Oh Oh I want ,u I want u Forever.
CARL COX - I WANT YOU FOREVER

8.Sunshine on a rainy day makes my soul trip trip trip away.
ZOE - SUNSHINE ON A RAINY DAY

9.Heaven is place I will always believe in cos u make me feel feel like
loving u.
AGGGGH KNOW IT BUT CAN'T PLACE IT

10.Can u feel the fire burning as it takes control of u. There is no-where
u
can turn there is nothing u can do Oh Yeah.
QTEX - POWER OF LOVE



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Happy Easter!

> P.S. In the post today...
>
> Dancemaster - Don't U Feel It/Kan U Feel It - Grand Larceny GL001 10"
>
> ..been after that for a while now (since Destiny ID'd it for me when he
> played it on one of his much-missed early morning shows).

Top tune, both sides! ;o)
Well, I *may* be interested in starting an early show again if there is
demand for it?
Unfortunatly I dont have as many tunes now though LOL but I am playing a
show on a Sunday evening (8-10pm) on www.newtechpirates.com and could
probably get an early weekday show too....

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Subject: (oldschool) DENVER: air hockey challenge on Buddha's Birthday eh!

Heyza! Any Colorado old skoolers here?

I challenge you to a game of air hockey this Thursday!

Tomorrow, Thursday, April 8th, 2004, Buddha's Birthday, I am deejaying
an eclectic set of records & ceedees
at BOTANICA from 9pm-10pm only.

I've picked out some global goodys to share on the mega BOTANICA club
sound system (sound by HEARING IMPARED)
: 

Grace Jones, Bandulu, Rollerball Sountrack, Isaac Hayes, Multicast,
Jimmy Cliff, Lee "Scratch" Perry, Captain
Comatose, The Aloof, lots of Andrew Weatherall stuff, Cabaret Voltaire,
The Clash,  Orbital, The Eagles of
Death Metal, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Morgan Geist stuff, Max Sedgley,
Horace Andy, Kraftwerk concert
bootlegs, le_tigre, Leftfield, Lou Reed, Hall & Oates, James Brown,
Monty Python, N.E.R.D., Patrice Rushen,
The Orb, Barry White, Detroit Grand Pubahs, Devslashnull, Rasmussen,
Real Tuesday Weld, Soul II Soul,
Stetsasonic, StereoMCs, The Bees, Tiki Two, Rolf Harris and many more...

As you can see, a real mash up of styles with a lots of oldschool
rocksteady reggae and silly shyt. Ack, and
of course movie soundtracks for easy amusement. Extra spice by Steroid
Abuse Crew's wrestling announcements. 

If they have a video projector happening I'll see if we can broadcast
the C-64 intro screen video. Also, for
even more thrills,  if my laptop cooperates we shall be linked up via
the net to a radio station in San
Francisco who will be broadcasting our signal on 104.9FM.

This is one of Denver's finest dark dungy dive bars as they have pool
tables, foosball, air hockey and more!
You can smoke cigarettes like mad here.  The liquor & beer is tasty,
strong & cheap. Ask the friendly bar
sfaff what their deals are, it has been "buy one get one free" as they
issue you a "wooden chip" good
anytyme, or perhaps the famous free drink special 11pm-12am.

After my set around 10pm, some serious top quality house deejay action
onwards to 2am  by:

DJ EAST/ U.T.L/N.Y.C. spinning tribal tech house.

DJ ARYLLE/ Hype Prod. spinning tech house.

SOUTHPARK TAVERN
60 South Broadway
Denver (303)777-4200
$5 cover.
21+

Cheers,

Stevyn
http://ironfeather.com

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Subject: (oldschool) 15 yr old asked if he can get Ecstacy

BWHAHAHAHKJAHDJLHSJDHJSDHJHLJH!LH!L!**!*!Y!*(!Y!!

--------------


http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4014&n=2

MINNEAPOLIS?

Having exhausted several more conventional sources for illegal drugs, area 
copy editor Alex Henderson, 33, was
forced to ask his 15-year-old nephew Kevin for MDMA Monday.


"My girlfriend Paula [Tanner] was talking about how fun ecstasy was the 
two times she did it," Henderson said. "She
got really excited when I said I'd never tried it before, because I guess 
the first time is the best. She said we
should take it and spend all night having sex. I told her I'd make some 
calls."

Although ecstasy use among young adults is on the rise, Henderson said he 
has been "out of the drug loop" for
several years, and thus unsure where to buy the club drug. It was only 
after two weeks of intense searching that
Henderson asked his nephew if he knew any dealers.

"Let me assure you, going to Kevin was my absolute last resort," Henderson 
said. "I explored every single avenue I
could think of before I went to track him down after band practice Monday 
night."

Henderson said the first person he contacted before approaching the 
high-school sophomore was his friend Dean
Holston.

"Dean and I used to party a lot in college, but he was always the one who 
took the money and got the stuff for our
group," Henderson said. "It turns out he cleaned himself up and is just 
starting a job drafting legislation in
Washington. I got him working late. He said no way. Then he said it was 
too bad I couldn't make it to his wedding
last summer."

"It wasn't one of my finer moments," he added.

After he asked all of his friends and several of his more 
irresponsible-seeming acquaintances, Henderson decided
that he needed to seek out a younger demographic. He said he spent three 
days cozying up to Christine Polley, the 22-
year-old intern at his office, before casually broaching the subject of 
having the history major find him some
ecstasy.

"Everyone from the office was having a couple of beers after work," 
Henderson said. "Christine seems pretty laid-
back, so I didn't think it would be out of line to ask her if she could 
hook me up. She didn't freak out or anything,
  but she got a little evasive and told me that she didn't do drugs and 
didn't know anything about that stuff. She
left kind of quickly afterward. I hope she doesn't think I'm the office 
narc or something."

Only after several more weeks of failed attempts did Henderson turn to his 
nephew.

"Let's just say it?I was desperate," Henderson said. "I can admit that 
much."

Although Henderson found it awkward to ask his nephew for illegal drugs, 
the prospect of pleasing his girlfriend
convinced him to go forward with his plans.

"I tried to call at a time when no one else in the family was around, but 
my brother Jake answered the phone,"
Henderson said. "I talked to him for a minute, and then I was like, 'Yeah, 
so how's Kevin?'"

Henderson said his concern for his nephew seemed to confuse his brother.

"He was like, 'Kevin? He's okay. He got a B-minus on his research paper.' 
That was my road in," Henderson said. "I
was like, 'B-minus. Hmm. Maybe I should talk to him.'"

Henderson's brother, though surprised by the request, put his son on the 
phone.

"Once I had Kevin on the phone, I told him he didn't need to worry so much 
about a B-minus, that it was just one
grade, that he was doing great. I asked him what sports teams he's rooting 
for these days, if he thought that movie
about the Alamo was going to be any good, and then if he could get me some 
X."

According to Henderson, Kevin initially did not understand the question, 
forcing his uncle to repeat himself several
times.

"I was like, 'Ecstasy. Can you get me some X?'" Henderson said. "Finally, 
after like five minutes, he was like, 'Oh.
Oh. X? Oh. Um, I guess I can ask around.'"

Henderson said he immediately had second thoughts after getting off the 
phone with his nephew.

"It kind of got me worried," he said. "I don't think my relationship with 
Jake would ever bounce back if he found
out I'd enlisted Kevin as my drug mule. He's still a little mad at me 
because I took Kevin to see House Of 1000
Corpses."

Although Kevin's initial inquiries were unsuccessful, the high-school 
sophomore promised to keep his ear to the
ground for his uncle, in spite of his apparent discomfort in doing so.

"Some kids might think it's cool to score drugs for their uncle, but it 
kind of gives me the creeps," Kevin said. "I
don't really hang out with the kids who deal that stuff, so it's awkward 
to go up and ask them for it. I'm going to
try, though. It's even worse to have Uncle Alex calling here and hanging 
up when Dad answers. We have caller ID."



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Subject: (oldschool) Interesting Together ("Hardcore Uproar") page

Interesting Together ("Hardcore Uproar") page

Check this:

http://www.suddi.com/monikers.htm

List what Together have been doing since Hardcore Uproar in 1990 and also seems they were the guys beinh "Heard It Through the Bassline" (Liggaz With Attitude - Marvin Gaye bootleg).

Found it by chance. :)

Rob

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Subject: (oldschool) DENVER: air hockey challenge on Buddha's Birthday eh!

 *** TONITE IS OFF  ***   UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE *** TONITE IS OFF :(

BOTANIC Denver - (IFJ NEWSWIRE) Due to heavy rains the roof over the
dance floor has collapsed inwards (rather than up into the sky). The bar
coul maybe feature a small sound system in the front lounge area but
that is unknown at this point. SO if you were interested in this tonite
you may wanna call me 720-366-9293 after the sun is set and get the
current status before riding your bike over eh!

ALSO ** While I have u're eye ball, katnip kittys birthday party is in
the majestic rocky mountains above Idaho Springs, the Lansing Free Sound
System in full force outdoors, no roofs to worry us. April 24, 2004.
Celebrating Katnip and Linn's b-day, So far DJs include :

* John Gross/PAGE27/ROBOTMANDALA
* Seth Iniguez
* DJ Newnumbertwo
* Hannah/Ironfeather
* Stevyn/IronFeather

If you would like to play some choonz make contact.

Thanks!

Please enjoy the rest of your computering tyme,

Stevyn








Steven wrote:
> 
> Heyza! Any Colorado old skoolers here?
> 
> I challenge you to a game of air hockey this Thursday!
> 
> Tomorrow, Thursday, April 8th, 2004, Buddha's Birthday, I am deejaying
> an eclectic set of records & ceedees
> at BOTANICA from 9pm-10pm only.
> 
> I've picked out some global goodys to share on the mega BOTANICA club
> sound system (sound by HEARING IMPARED)
> :
> 
> Grace Jones, Bandulu, Rollerball Sountrack, Isaac Hayes, Multicast,
> Jimmy Cliff, Lee "Scratch" Perry, Captain
> Comatose, The Aloof, lots of Andrew Weatherall stuff, Cabaret Voltaire,
> The Clash,  Orbital, The Eagles of
> Death Metal, Fantastic Plastic Machine, Morgan Geist stuff, Max Sedgley,
> Horace Andy, Kraftwerk concert
> bootlegs, le_tigre, Leftfield, Lou Reed, Hall & Oates, James Brown,
> Monty Python, N.E.R.D., Patrice Rushen,
> The Orb, Barry White, Detroit Grand Pubahs, Devslashnull, Rasmussen,
> Real Tuesday Weld, Soul II Soul,
> Stetsasonic, StereoMCs, The Bees, Tiki Two, Rolf Harris and many more...
> 
> As you can see, a real mash up of styles with a lots of oldschool
> rocksteady reggae and silly shyt. Ack, and
> of course movie soundtracks for easy amusement. Extra spice by Steroid
> Abuse Crew's wrestling announcements.
> 
> If they have a video projector happening I'll see if we can broadcast
> the C-64 intro screen video. Also, for
> even more thrills,  if my laptop cooperates we shall be linked up via
> the net to a radio station in San
> Francisco who will be broadcasting our signal on 104.9FM.
> 
> This is one of Denver's finest dark dungy dive bars as they have pool
> tables, foosball, air hockey and more!
> You can smoke cigarettes like mad here.  The liquor & beer is tasty,
> strong & cheap. Ask the friendly bar
> sfaff what their deals are, it has been "buy one get one free" as they
> issue you a "wooden chip" good
> anytyme, or perhaps the famous free drink special 11pm-12am.
> 
> After my set around 10pm, some serious top quality house deejay action
> onwards to 2am  by:
> 
> DJ EAST/ U.T.L/N.Y.C. spinning tribal tech house.
> 
> DJ ARYLLE/ Hype Prod. spinning tech house.
> 
> SOUTHPARK TAVERN
> 60 South Broadway
> Denver (303)777-4200
> $5 cover.
> 21+
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stevyn
> http://ironfeather.com
> 
> +++
> ATH
> 
> --
> PS: weird link
> 
>  http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/
> 
> its a photo story of a girl who rode her bike through the abandoned
> chernobyl.
> 
>  * NOW OPEN *
> IronFeather Book+Zine Shop
> 3206 Tejon
> Denver, Colorado, 80211
> 
> http://www.ironfeather.com/shop/
> 
> "It is hard to be brave," said Piglet, sniffing slightly, "when you're
> only a Very Small Animal." Rabbit, who had begun to write very busily,
> looked up and said: "It is because you are a very small animal that you
> will be Useful in the adventure before us."
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 http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/kiddofspeed/

its a photo story of a girl who rode her bike through the abandoned
chernobyl.


 * NOW OPEN * 
IronFeather Book+Zine Shop
3206 Tejon 
Denver, Colorado, 80211

http://www.ironfeather.com/shop/


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will be Useful in the adventure before us."

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Subject: (oldschool) DJ Entropy - The Punk & Metal Rave mix

Blurring the lines between Rave and Rock, I give you a new mix.  All tunes 
are Rave tunes that have sampled or covered a punk or metal song, from nu 
skool breakbeat to psy-trance to dnb to gabber and from grunge to punk to 
speed metal to classic punk to classic metal.

Some of you will love this.  And some of you will hate this.  But isn't 
that always the case?  ;)

Enjoy!


DJ Entropy - The Punk & Metal Rave mix


160kbps MP3:
<http://www.djentropy.com/mixtapes/DJ_Entropy_-_The_Punk_&_Metal_Rave_mix.mp3>


56kbps RM:
<http://www.djentropy.com/mixtapes/DJ_Entropy_-_The_Punk_&_Metal_Rave_mix.rm>


Tracklisting:

1) Adam Freeland - 7th Nation (White Stripes - 7th Nation Army)
2) Adam Freeland - Smells Like Freeland (Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit)
3) DJ Entropy - Rave Needs Guitars (A New Found Glory - You're Still The 
One)
4) DJ Entropy - Rave Needs More Guitars (Ataris - Hey Kid)
5) Jem 77 - Never Felt This Way (Guns N Roses - Welcome To The Jungle)
6) Apollo 440 - Ain't Talkin Bout Dub (Van Halen - Ain't Talkin' Bout Love)
7) Skazi - Seek and Destroy (Metallica - Seek and Destroy)
8) Dr. Israel - The Doctor vs. The Wizard (Black Sabbath - The Wizard)
9) Perry Farrell - Whole Lotta Love (Led Zeppelin - Whole Lotta Love)
10) Codene & Mickey Po - God Save The Queen (Sex Pistols - God Save The 
Queen)
11) Panacea - Strike It (Dub War - Strike It)
12) Dylan - Master Of Puppets (Metallica - Master Of Puppets)
13) Bonobo - Over Now (Dub War - Over Now)
14) Kemal & Rob Data - Fucking Hostile (Pantera - Fucking Hostile)
15) Hive - Ultrasonic Sound (Bad Brains - Re-Ignition)
16) Concord Dawn - Raining Blood (Slayer - Reign In Blood)
17) Lenny Dee - Fucking Hostile (Pantera - Fucking Hostile)
18) Scooter - Rebel Yell (Billy Idol - Rebel Yell)





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Subject: (oldschool) We All Can Possibly Smoke Cigars like a Comic Book Villain.

BOTANIC Denver – (IFJ) With all the extreme global yuckiness in the
world, tonite grounded me back to the potential that me & fellow humans
are actually ok. Wowza, another happy day as an earthling! I know I
emailed everyone and said tonite was “off” but turns out after all that
it was really “on” in a happy fashion.

Yes, the roof of the bar was caved in, but the guys arranged everything
so the BOTONIC sound rig & party was bumpin in the sheltered front
lounge as rain drizzled outside. This intimacy paid off nicely with a
good vibe of house music lovers lounging about the place & engaged in
games of foosball, air hockey & the honorable game of pool. Very noble
indeed.

This afternoon I thought the night was cancelled so I ended up getting
drunk and passing out early in a mood of self indulgent sadness as it
rained outside, but then suddenly I received a call from Jonny that the
party was on and my presence was called forth. The clouds broke open and
sunshine beamed down in Denver ahh ! ack! hehehe … silly!

I napped, showered, brewed some coffee, gathered my bag of records,
headfones, a stash of extra cords & possible connectors and my new two
portable MP3 players. Shrug the shoulders, smile, secure the place and
here we go.

After the usual sound issues, “oh this channel is dead”, I really didn’t
care, to me it sounded “perfick” sweet, to be cranking my personal
favorite choonz very loud in a club downtown Denver Colorado USA, on
this rinky dink planet is really a dream cum true to me. Life once again
had special meaning for me personally at least. 

I really dig old skool reggae! Back in the day when Stacey’s buddy
turned me onto rocksteady stuff I aligned hardcore to that sound. Julian
Bradley, a local Colorado hero actually gave me my first collection of
reggae records and I thank him daily for that. 

WOW! So there I was, I played some Multicast “Ballerica”, Captain
Comatose’s lovely French choon “$100 a day to be my lover”, Orbital’s
(bootleg of their live Dr. Who theme), Hugo Montenegro’s “The Good, the
Bad and the Ugly”, Grace Jones “ Walking in the Rain”, Morgan Geist
remixes, Hot Chocolate’s “Don’t Stop it Now”, Andrew Weatherall goodys,
DFA remixes and of course some killer reggae by Lieutenant Stitchie,
Lester Sterling, DJ Bigfoot(birminghamUK), Steroid Abuse Crew, etc… I
guess I was not relaxed enuff to goof around to much but I did manage to
play a tiny bit of the old sleep learning classic “DEEP RELAXATION”
record hehehehe! How can I not eh? 

It was wicked awesome to see some old & new friends out but specially
nice to be in the presence of these cool peoples: Jonathan, the birthday
boy, and the lovely Angela, two light footed elven creatures among us
crude humans. 

The talent tonight was DJ ARYLLE and DJ EAST who both had the busy front
lounge in heaven with their sweet house & techno. nice! After my set it
was such a relief to relax, hang out with friends and hear the pro's
move us. I know I then had the wiggle. 

Judging my own set :: I know I immensely enjoyed the content myself but
it was probably dividing the bar as some did and some did not. This is a
house music night. Reggae, etc is not part of the plan. If you don’t
like reggae then it must be annoying no matter how phun the track may be
to us lovers. But if you dig it, then I think you would be entertained
for sure I would like to think. Shouts to DJ DAY JA VU (sp?) who spins
old skool reggae also. Shouts to the peeps who did come up and say
heyza. 

Anyways, I phucking do it again this Thursday, April 15. 9pm-10pm. come
on down to the club, eh! Possibly smoke cigars like a comic book
villain. The Air Hockey Challenge is still on, let us play! In the many
games of sport tonight, one I would like to report back on now, is the
Air Hockey contest between Dave/LittleFyodor and myself. It was a
contest of the eye(s) and complete body coordination skills, at first
Dave dominated the game in an almost evil method but suddenly Stevyn
scored simply by letting Dave knock the puck into his own goal. But
quickly the ghods above who patronize bars changed their favor and David
growled and with lips clenched and as our bodies extended matrix stylee
in impossible ways he scored again and again till the game was over. I
demand a rematch!!!

Big Hugs & Special Shouts to David & Lauren on their anniversary. A.K.A.
Little Fyodor & Babushka! These guys are playing a live show at the
GOTHIC THEATRE 8pm APRIL 11, 2004. See ya there my friends!

I still have some free tickets – call me!

Ok it is 4:20 AM, I think I’ll crash now&#61514;

Before I go I have to say that Commodore64’s, pizza slices, film loops,
Dolly Parton, kind buds, effects boxes, Grace Jones remixes and lost
“abstract” art pieces cuz of past rent due issues were all discussed
about the place tonite. Also, Scootah’s Stryo Art is wicked!!!!!!!!!!

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Subject: (oldschool) OT: Gabber tune ID

some gabber tune with that "Waste those motherfuckers!" sample in it.



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Guess the tune

on 7/4/04 3:47 PM, Kev Keenoy at kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com wrote:

>>> 8.Sunshine on a rainy day makes my soul trip trip trip away.
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> Wasn't this Zo=EB?

Yes it was. Typo. Sorry.



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Subject: (oldschool) GABBER

hi. ... i have listed 30 records on to the eBay site, most of which are by 
NASENBLUTEN, XYLOCAINE,  or are BLOODY FIST records, there are some very 
rare bits up for grabs this time,,,

here are some of the items i have listed:
7" DEAD GIRL 702 NASENBLUTEN COPS & ROBBERS

B*STARD LOUD 10 - NEWCASTLE SAMPLER - RARE

BLOODY FIST 05 MEMETIC Vs. NETAS - RARE

BLOODY FIST 06 - SYNDICATE 2X12" CLASSIC*****

BLOODY FIST 07 RAGE RESET-DAMAGE E.P PART ONE

STRIKE 08 - STRAIGHT OUT OF NEWCASTLE - RARE


all 30 records including the bloody fist records are in (((((((mint))))))) 
condition!!!!

HERE IS THE LINK TO MY AUCTIONS:

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=djd-stroy_john&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



any questions please e-mail me...

happy bidding.


john

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>>That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber. 

>Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.

Yeah, a lot of that stuff samples oldskool.  I guess it's about as
close as drum and bass.  You just have to decide which is closer to
the original attitude: moody urban souljahs or ironic tech-geeks (at
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

Let me tell you the difference.....

Oldskool = Old hardcore tunres which are primarily breakbeat driven.

Gabba = Original dutch 4 x 4 kick drum tunes (aka Rotterdam records, Terror
Trax, Ruffneck etc)

Hardcore = This primarily refers to fast gabba tunes ( not cheesy stuff),
aka Rebel Scum, Deathchant, Hardcore Crossbreed records)

Breakcore = Primarily hardcore tunes infused with noise and broken beats
(aka Doormouse, Stunt Rock  and Venetian snares).

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> >>That's not Hardcore, that's Gabber.
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> >Sweetie....breakcore is hardcore...old skool hardcore.
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> Yeah, a lot of that stuff samples oldskool.  I guess it's about as
> close as drum and bass.  You just have to decide which is closer to
> the original attitude: moody urban souljahs or ironic tech-geeks (at
> least that's my impression of who listens to breakcore)
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> Hardcore = This primarily refers to fast gabba tunes ( not cheesy stuff),
> aka Rebel Scum, Deathchant, Hardcore Crossbreed records)

To everyone around my way hardcore always meant 92/3 tunes on such labels as
Reinforced, Moving Shadow, Formation, Sub Base etc etc
I had never heard it refered to as oldskool till I came on the net around
1999.
I still call it hardcore now, not oldskool! ;o)

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Hello,

anyone know where i can pick this up? Or even better someone who has it =
and would be willing to sell? I need this tune badly!!

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Tune in for some underground business 8-10pm on www.newtechpirates.co.uk :o)

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shades of black-return of a simple song-mutant recs 7-1991,=A38=20
bass construction-dance with power-elicit 3-1992,=A38=20
rennie p-resistor-renn302-1992,=A315=20
urban hype-trip 2 trumpton-faze 2 recs 5-1992,=A310=20
the horn track-black label-ex02-1992,=A35 marks=20
liquid crystal(nrg)-inner sense-bizarre recs 2-1991,=A314=20
3 down-deep trip-the one after d recs002-1991,=A38=20
multi coloured lazer ep-mid range recs-fols1-1991,=A320=20
shades of rhythm-extacy ep-ztt recs-1991,=A38=20
skuf-loosing my mind-vinyl rhythm recs002-1992/3,=A314=20
clarkee/phantasy-near miss--dougal/evolution-esp-meltdown recs =
007-1992,=A310=20

nrg-feel the fury ep-unity/promised land-chill25-1992,=A314=20
ltj bukem-logical progression-vmr recs-1991(his first tune),=A320=20
krackpotz vol 1-taking the buscuit-768 016-1992,=A315=20
out of order-dark sheep-1992,(the rare 3 tracker)=A325=20
sonz of a loop da loop era-far out-boogie times recs005-1991,=A320=20
tough toonz-n joi this-tt01-1993=A335=20
nick od-spam vol 1-reinforced-1218-1992,=A315=20
classified-zero b rip,SOLD=20
dancebass004-keys to my cage ep-1992,=A310=20
syko & mak-murda ep-pmt002-1992,=A310=20
satin storm-i think i'm going out of my head-w/l-sshc3-1992,=A332=20
dance intellegence-incapsulated ep-section 5 recs-sys3-1993,=A310=20
krome + time-this sound is for the underground =
-original-subbase11-1992,=A322=20
krome + time-this sound is for the underground =
remix-subbase11r-1992,=A320=20
dj hype-the trooper rmx-subbase28r-1993,=A310=20
dj solo-darkage/axis rems-production house 50r(blue 10")-1993,=A312=20
dj ileagle-testify-deejay recs004-1993,=A325=20
in depth perception-lucky spin recs-gp01-1993,=A38=20
deltron-gotta love ep-amass recs-amass003-1992,=A38=20
phuture assassins-shot like dis-subbase003-1991SOLD=20
manix-manic minds ep remix-feel feel good rmx-reinforced1209r-1991,=A310 =

insomnia-raise the roof-tr102s-1992,=A38=20
virtual reality vol 1-doughboy-bionic sound recs-bs3-1993,=A38=20
one 2 one-legend-reinforced1228-1992,=A37=20
tronik house-straight outta hell-2 bad mice rmx-network 62-1992,=A38=20
pure bass recs-w.l-pbt3-1991,=A38=20
under rhythm ep-one foot skank-urep1-1993,=A38=20
defience-much 2 much/hand in hand-sh001-1992,=A310=20
egyptian empire-horn track-ffrr-1992,=A314=20
eat life-bach to basics/eqinox-mprt7-1992,=A315=20
kaotic chemistry-space cakes remix-shadow 20r-1992,=A315=20
noise factory-we can/behold the jungle-ttt055-1992,=A318=20
e-motion ep-4 track w/l-slam1-1992,=A320=20
sudden def-madness to my method-reinforced 1219r-1992,=A318=20
nebula 11-flatliner remix-j4m005r912 nebula r 2-1992,=A312=20
x cert-rising to the bass-limited e-xck01-1992,(big top buzz plays =
92)=A312=20
fruit & veg vol 2-w/l-skint2-1993 dark tune,=A320=20
the cleptomaniacs-technophobic lisa-fokus uk-fkuk005-1991,=A38=20
ruff kut recs-river nijer(nookie rmx)-ruf gh3-1993,=A38=20
dj windmill-out of mind ep-daradox recs-pdx2-1993,=A38=20
mpo001-3 track white label-1992,=A310=20
rush til dawn-hedgehog affair pt 3-basement 10-1992,=A310=20
new decade-blind vision ep-1993 get the message rmx-oor010,=A310=20
mk 13-techzone-sonic sounds recs(rhythm section recs)1992,=A310=20
hardrhythm productions-this generation(new era rmx)-gad28-1992,=A38=20
formula 7-not just ragga-brain recs 09-1992,=A38=20
blame-music takes you-original 4 track/pic sleeve-1991,=A310=20
w/l-hellrazor vol 1-4 track w/l-1992,=A38=20
mystery 159 remix(life is a mystery maddona sample)-1992,=A310=20
oaysis-loft conversion ep-formation 13-1992,=A310=20
mysterons-3 track w/l-dark 1993 tunes-pb001,=A38=20
unity-unity-north & south remixes(big top buzz tunes 1992)ucr6,=A310=20
baby d-let me be your fantasy-ruffer mix-ph-1992,=A310=20
new atlantic-say yes to saten(big topbuzz tune)-3bbt1-1992,SOLD=20
nookie-love is remix ep-absolute 2 recs005r-1992,=A318=20
boogie times tribe-dark stranger-origin unknown rmx-subbase27r-1993,=A38 =

omer & crooks-grand piano ep-strat recs-1992,SOLD=20
supermarket-rare ray keith rmx-1992,=A39=20
original dj vibes-the moving grooving ep-sensi recs-ses01-1992/3.=A38=20
beltram=3Dprogram 2-the omen-r&s recsrsuk7-1991,=A37=20
aurora-moons & melody ep-aur001-1992,SOLD=20
little mat & uprock-calm down-fat chuna-fat01-1992,=A314=20
biology recs promo-bio785(booyaka remix)-1993,=A38=20
blipton factor wreckords-foot soldier-blip002-1992,=A310=20
blipton factor wreckords-now hear dis-blip04-1992,=A310=20
audio maze-way of life-labello blanco-lb22-1992,=A38=20
w/l-gatecrashers revenge-pbx1-1991,=A37=20
break the limits-dole doledodgers ep-btl007-1991,=A38=20
million dollar brain ep-hear comes the brain-contagious =
recs-russ009-1993,=A313=20
awareness-dee theme-jumpin & pumpin-12tot31-1992,=A38=20
armshouse-count the action ep-we r e rmx-ach001-1992,=A38=20
inner visions-baby please-global dance records-gdrx6-1992,=A38=20
interface-ash trax vol 1-rising high-rsn34-1992,=A38=20
freshtrax & the emphasis-euphoria-jelly recs 001-1992,=A38=20
labello blanco recs-10??,=A38=20
crazee m & webe-dove records 005-1993,white 10"-=A310=20
ft & myth vol 1-oh my gosh recs-omg1-1993,=A38=20
tbmp-visions of rhythm-raindance recs-12rda1-1992,=A38=20
s.g.m-spaced out grey matter ep-ohm recs-sgm1005-1992,=A38=20
let's go killersound-killer sound-wsl records-wslt002-1992,=A38=20
caberet voltair-i want you(altern 8 remix)-1992,=A37=20
sly t & ollie j-underground confusion-black market =
recs-bmit003-1992,SOLD=20
glide-alright-4 mixes-absolute 2 recs-abs003dj-1992,=A37=20
time like-the second ep-big giant recs-bg20-1992,=A36=20
manic-concept 2 ep-money2-1991,=A38=20
h.h.f.d-freedom-tam tam recs-ttt039-1990,=A37=20
eon-basket case-(urban shakedown rmx)vs-storm39r-1992,=A37=20
bay b kane-dark and delicious ep-kikman recs-mik007-1993,=A37=20
sola power recs-the vibes ep-spw001-1992/3,=A37=20
noise factory-straight from the bedroom vol 1-box opened/stand =
up-bed001-1992/3(few marks plays ok),=A35=20
i.c.p-free & equal-raders recs-radz2-1992,=A38=20
uncle-dic turpin rmx-cf recs-cf001-1992/3SOLD=20
criminal set-dreamscape ep-one nation recs-1992/3,=A39=20
house of nrg-every body shake your body-amass recs001-1992,=A38=20
the skunkklub-feel the beat-vinyl rhythm recs003-1993,=A38=20
r&r-double b ep-nice 92 w/l-rnr001-1992,=A310

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

Dest,

I have to agree with you there, i have always considered it hardcore as
well. But as I was in Hardcore/gabba circles, then hardcore was always stuff
played at 200BPM kinda style.

Oldskool as you say has only come around in recent years...  1999 as you
say.

hardcore will always be hardcore!!!  ; )



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> > Hardcore = This primarily refers to fast gabba tunes ( not cheesy
stuff),
> > aka Rebel Scum, Deathchant, Hardcore Crossbreed records)
>
> To everyone around my way hardcore always meant 92/3 tunes on such labels
as
> Reinforced, Moving Shadow, Formation, Sub Base etc etc
> I had never heard it refered to as oldskool till I came on the net around
> 1999.
> I still call it hardcore now, not oldskool! ;o)
>
> Dest
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

I remember oldskool being called oldskool as far back as 1994. Dream FM used
to call it that in those days for a start.



----- Original Message ----- 
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> Dest,
>
> I have to agree with you there, i have always considered it hardcore as
> well. But as I was in Hardcore/gabba circles, then hardcore was always
stuff
> played at 200BPM kinda style.
>
> Oldskool as you say has only come around in recent years...  1999 as you
> say.
>
> hardcore will always be hardcore!!!  ; )
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dest" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 3:04 PM
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>
>
> > > Hardcore = This primarily refers to fast gabba tunes ( not cheesy
> stuff),
> > > aka Rebel Scum, Deathchant, Hardcore Crossbreed records)
> >
> > To everyone around my way hardcore always meant 92/3 tunes on such
labels
> as
> > Reinforced, Moving Shadow, Formation, Sub Base etc etc
> > I had never heard it refered to as oldskool till I came on the net
around
> > 1999.
> > I still call it hardcore now, not oldskool! ;o)
> >
> > Dest
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence

Gabber = distorted kicks with white influence.


yes, i'm playing the color game.  discuss.






On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:08:45 +0100, Matt Wood <matt.wood666@virgin.net> 
wrote:

> Dest,
>
> I have to agree with you there, i have always considered it hardcore as
> well. But as I was in Hardcore/gabba circles, then hardcore was always 
> stuff
> played at 200BPM kinda style.
>
> Oldskool as you say has only come around in recent years...  1999 as you
> say.
>
> hardcore will always be hardcore!!!  ; )
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dest" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 3:04 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA
>
>
>> > Hardcore = This primarily refers to fast gabba tunes ( not cheesy
> stuff),
>> > aka Rebel Scum, Deathchant, Hardcore Crossbreed records)
>>
>> To everyone around my way hardcore always meant 92/3 tunes on such 
>> labels
> as
>> Reinforced, Moving Shadow, Formation, Sub Base etc etc
>> I had never heard it refered to as oldskool till I came on the net 
>> around
>> 1999.
>> I still call it hardcore now, not oldskool! ;o)
>>
>> Dest
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

> Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence

Where the fuck did black come into it?
Hardcore sampled from anything and everything, to say it is just mainly
black influenced is nonsense!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

So with hardcore having a "black influence" you mean rap????   Gibberish!!

And gabber you mean "white", I presume your going off on the nazi tip, which
is utter nonsense. Yes there has been connections with facist groups and
gabber, but thats only been in Holland and parts of germany. Certainly not
in the uk.

Colour doesn't come into it.......

----- Original Message -----
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> Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence
>
> Gabber = distorted kicks with white influence.
>
>
> yes, i'm playing the color game.  discuss.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2004 22:08:45 +0100, Matt Wood <matt.wood666@virgin.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Dest,
> >
> > I have to agree with you there, i have always considered it hardcore as
> > well. But as I was in Hardcore/gabba circles, then hardcore was always
> > stuff
> > played at 200BPM kinda style.
> >
> > Oldskool as you say has only come around in recent years...  1999 as you
> > say.
> >
> > hardcore will always be hardcore!!!  ; )
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dest" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 3:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA
> >
> >
> >> > Hardcore = This primarily refers to fast gabba tunes ( not cheesy
> > stuff),
> >> > aka Rebel Scum, Deathchant, Hardcore Crossbreed records)
> >>
> >> To everyone around my way hardcore always meant 92/3 tunes on such
> >> labels
> > as
> >> Reinforced, Moving Shadow, Formation, Sub Base etc etc
> >> I had never heard it refered to as oldskool till I came on the net
> >> around
> >> 1999.
> >> I still call it hardcore now, not oldskool! ;o)
> >>
> >> Dest
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Agreed!!

Ceratainly some of the DJ's in the UK that played gabber and 4x4 hardcore
were black. Take Loftgroover and HMS as examples.

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> > Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence
>
> Where the fuck did black come into it?
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> black influenced is nonsense!
>
> Dest
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Bizarre Inc Altern 8, 808 State,  Bass Construction and more @ Turnmills Bank Holiday Sunday!

Long time since I went to Turnmills :(

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) We All Can Possibly Smoke Cigars like a Comic Book Villain.

Nothing like a good cigar after a meal :)

> BOTANIC Denver ? (IFJ) With all the extreme global 
yuckiness in the
> world, tonite grounded me back to the potential that 
me & fellow humans
> are actually ok. Wowza, another happy day as an 
earthling! I know I
> emailed everyone and said tonite was ?off? but turns 
out after all that
> it was really ?on? in a happy fashion.
> 
> Yes, the roof of the bar was caved in, but the guys 
arranged everything
> so the BOTONIC sound rig & party was bumpin in the 
sheltered front
> lounge as rain drizzled outside. This intimacy paid 
off nicely with a
> good vibe of house music lovers lounging about the 
place & engaged in
> games of foosball, air hockey & the honorable game 
of pool. Very noble
> indeed.
> 
> This afternoon I thought the night was cancelled so 
I ended up getting
> drunk and passing out early in a mood of self 
indulgent sadness as it
> rained outside, but then suddenly I received a call 
from Jonny that the
> party was on and my presence was called forth. The 
clouds broke open and
> sunshine beamed down in Denver ahh ! ack! hehehe ? 
silly!
> 
> I napped, showered, brewed some coffee, gathered my 
bag of records,
> headfones, a stash of extra cords & possible 
connectors and my new two
> portable MP3 players. Shrug the shoulders, smile, 
secure the place and
> here we go.
> 
> After the usual sound issues, ?oh this channel is 
dead?, I really didn?t
> care, to me it sounded ?perfick? sweet, to be 
cranking my personal
> favorite choonz very loud in a club downtown Denver 
Colorado USA, on
> this rinky dink planet is really a dream cum true to 
me. Life once again
> had special meaning for me personally at least. 
> 
> I really dig old skool reggae! Back in the day when 
Stacey?s buddy
> turned me onto rocksteady stuff I aligned hardcore 
to that sound. Julian
> Bradley, a local Colorado hero actually gave me my 
first collection of
> reggae records and I thank him daily for that. 
> 
> WOW! So there I was, I played some Multicast ?
Ballerica?, Captain
> Comatose?s lovely French choon ?$100 a day to be my 
lover?, Orbital?s
> (bootleg of their live Dr. Who theme), Hugo 
Montenegro?s ?The Good, the
> Bad and the Ugly?, Grace Jones ? Walking in the 
Rain?, Morgan Geist
> remixes, Hot Chocolate?s ?Don?t Stop it Now?, Andrew 
Weatherall goodys,
> DFA remixes and of course some killer reggae by 
Lieutenant Stitchie,
> Lester Sterling, DJ Bigfoot(birminghamUK), Steroid 
Abuse Crew, etc? I
> guess I was not relaxed enuff to goof around to much 
but I did manage to
> play a tiny bit of the old sleep learning classic ?
DEEP RELAXATION?
> record hehehehe! How can I not eh? 
> 
> It was wicked awesome to see some old & new friends 
out but specially
> nice to be in the presence of these cool peoples: 
Jonathan, the birthday
> boy, and the lovely Angela, two light footed elven 
creatures among us
> crude humans. 
> 
> The talent tonight was DJ ARYLLE and DJ EAST who 
both had the busy front
> lounge in heaven with their sweet house & techno. 
nice! After my set it
> was such a relief to relax, hang out with friends 
and hear the pro's
> move us. I know I then had the wiggle. 
> 
> Judging my own set :: I know I immensely enjoyed the 
content myself but
> it was probably dividing the bar as some did and 
some did not. This is a
> house music night. Reggae, etc is not part of the 
plan. If you don?t
> like reggae then it must be annoying no matter how 
phun the track may be
> to us lovers. But if you dig it, then I think you 
would be entertained
> for sure I would like to think. Shouts to DJ DAY JA 
VU (sp?) who spins
> old skool reggae also. Shouts to the peeps who did 
come up and say
> heyza. 
> 
> Anyways, I phucking do it again this Thursday, April 
15. 9pm-10pm. come
> on down to the club, eh! Possibly smoke cigars like 
a comic book
> villain. The Air Hockey Challenge is still on, let 
us play! In the many
> games of sport tonight, one I would like to report 
back on now, is the
> Air Hockey contest between Dave/LittleFyodor and 
myself. It was a
> contest of the eye(s) and complete body coordination 
skills, at first
> Dave dominated the game in an almost evil method but 
suddenly Stevyn
> scored simply by letting Dave knock the puck into 
his own goal. But
> quickly the ghods above who patronize bars changed 
their favor and David
> growled and with lips clenched and as our bodies 
extended matrix stylee
> in impossible ways he scored again and again till 
the game was over. I
> demand a rematch!!!
> 
> Big Hugs & Special Shouts to David & Lauren on their 
anniversary. A.K.A.
> Little Fyodor & Babushka! These guys are playing a 
live show at the
> GOTHIC THEATRE 8pm APRIL 11, 2004. See ya there my 
friends!
> 
> I still have some free tickets ? call me!
> 
> Ok it is 4:20 AM, I think I?ll crash nowïŠ
> 
> Before I go I have to say that Commodore64?s, pizza 
slices, film loops,
> Dolly Parton, kind buds, effects boxes, Grace Jones 
remixes and lost
> ?abstract? art pieces cuz of past rent due issues 
were all discussed
> about the place tonite. Also, Scootah?s Stryo Art is 
wicked!!!!!!!!!!
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 10:08:59 +0100, Dest <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> 
wrote:

>> Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence
>
> Where the fuck did black come into it?
> Hardcore sampled from anything and everything, to say it is just mainly
> black influenced is nonsense!


The entire culture of dubplates, rewinds, DJing with an MC, "boh", and all 
that stuff comes directly from the Jamican dancehall scene.

:)




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune ID LONDON MASSIVE

sacred - do it together
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> could be one of these,
>  SACD001  Sacred - Do It Together (The Baggy´s Mix)
> Keep on Going (Good Over Evil Mix)
> Bass Keeps Going (Juju Jump Up Mix)
> PUR001  Sacred- Do It Together (Remix)
> As One (Remix)  ,
>
> its the do it together track.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 12:47 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) tune ID LONDON MASSIVE
>
>
> hi guys i know u can help me i have this tune on a disc somewhere but am
> fucked if i can remember the name of it
>
> it has the Voice over '' LONDON MASSIVE ''
> and some kick asse drums in the back ground its like 93 ish i believe may
> even be late 92
>
> good luck
> ta
>
> P.S plz save me from going thru 100 discs of oldskool tunes to find it
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Bizarre Inc Altern 8, 808 State,  Bass Construction and more @ Turnmills Bank Holiday Sunday!


next one is on may 2nd
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Bizarre Inc Altern 8, 808 State,  Bass Construction and more @ Turnmills Bank Holiday Sunday!

thats actully wiked...getting the old handbag house heads in there also

www.pukkadawn.com 

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> 
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> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NASA

>Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence 

Is the fact that Hardcore is largely descended from Euro techno so
obvious that you completely ignore it?  What about Italian House
(where all those pianos come from?).  Come to think of it both techno
and house are equally white and black...as is hardcore.  In fact I do
not think color enters this at all.

Bringing it a bit closer to home...

This Friday is Oldschool night at DC's Cubik.  DB is going to be
there as well as Dieselboy, Scott Henry, John Tab and Spiggy.  I guess
I know what to expect from DB but what about Dieselboy and the rest of
them?  This is especially important as there is another event I would
rather go to (Once.Twice Fest with Akufen, Matthew Dear and a guy from
Pantytec among others).

Also, did ya'll read Simon Reynolds (of Generation Ecstacy aka Energy
Flash fame) review of the NASA night?  Check it
here:

http://blissout.blogspot.com/2004_04_04_blissout_archive.html#1081305
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Subject: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

Ok, I am reading Kid Bippy's website and he says that you should
practice mixing until you can mix in a record after 8 beats.  How is
that even possible?  I mean it takes me like 5 seconds just to get the
record out of the sleeve, then another 5 to put it on the platter and
another couple second to put the needle on and get ready.  That's
already like 32 beats.  What am I doing wrong (aside from keeping my
records in sleeves).  Is there some trick to putting on new records
really quickly?  Or does he mean 8 beats after you are ready to start
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

I think he means 8 beats of having both records on the tables, and he
probably means cued as well, i.e. you have 8 beats of the two records
playing synchronously to sort out the pitch, then you are finished.
Alternatively, he might be one of those turntablist types who stacks
every record he is going to play out of the sleeve before his set--in
that case, he doesn't likely know very much about mixing to start
with...

---chris


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Subject: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

Ok, I am reading Kid Bippy's website and he says that you should
practice mixing until you can mix in a record after 8 beats.  How is
that even possible?  I mean it takes me like 5 seconds just to get the
record out of the sleeve, then another 5 to put it on the platter and
another couple second to put the needle on and get ready.  That's
already like 32 beats.  What am I doing wrong (aside from keeping my
records in sleeves).  Is there some trick to putting on new records
really quickly?  Or does he mean 8 beats after you are ready to start
mixing?


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>> Hardcore = breakbeat with black influence
>
> Is the fact that Hardcore is largely descended from Euro techno


*cough*dancehall*cough*





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Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

right on, proper dj set is not just a pure turntablism.  i've heard
few mixes he's done and, although technically they are very solid,
after 25 minutes of listening i found all the tricks n' scratches
kinda annoying. sometimes i like track the way it rides.  loved how he
jammed on some technorap accapellas though...

Wednesday, April 14, 2004, 6:15:12 AM, you wrote:

CLS> I think he means 8 beats of having both records on the tables, and he
CLS> probably means cued as well, i.e. you have 8 beats of the two records
CLS> playing synchronously to sort out the pitch, then you are finished.
CLS> Alternatively, he might be one of those turntablist types who stacks
CLS> every record he is going to play out of the sleeve before his set--in
CLS> that case, he doesn't likely know very much about mixing to start
CLS> with...

CLS> ---chris


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CLS> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:06 pm
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CLS> Subject: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

CLS> Ok, I am reading Kid Bippy's website and he says that you should
CLS> practice mixing until you can mix in a record after 8 beats.  How is
CLS> that even possible?  I mean it takes me like 5 seconds just to get the
CLS> record out of the sleeve, then another 5 to put it on the platter and
CLS> another couple second to put the needle on and get ready.  That's
CLS> already like 32 beats.  What am I doing wrong (aside from keeping my
CLS> records in sleeves).  Is there some trick to putting on new records
CLS> really quickly?  Or does he mean 8 beats after you are ready to start
CLS> mixing?


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

I have to say that I don't know who this chap is, and no disrespect to him
and that, but this is nonsense.

I think he means 8 beats after when you are ready. Rather than 8 beats after
you have taken the last one off.

Anyway, it is my opinion that you  start mixing a tune when you are ready,
not because you are forced too by some guys opinion. i found my dj'ing
improved greatly through taking my time and not rushing things. Obviously
you have to get the next tune in before the last one finishes, but take your
time. When it's ready to get mixed in, it's ready!!!

Thats my opinion anyway.....

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> Ok, I am reading Kid Bippy's website and he says that you should
> practice mixing until you can mix in a record after 8 beats.  How is
> that even possible?  I mean it takes me like 5 seconds just to get the
> record out of the sleeve, then another 5 to put it on the platter and
> another couple second to put the needle on and get ready.  That's
> already like 32 beats.  What am I doing wrong (aside from keeping my
> records in sleeves).  Is there some trick to putting on new records
> really quickly?  Or does he mean 8 beats after you are ready to start
> mixing?
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Subject: (oldschool) Egyptian Empire - The Horn Track (for trade) 

Recently did a trade for this for a mate but now find he doesn't need it so I am putting it up here. Mighty Tim Taylor tune, possibly one of the hardest breakbeat oldskool 'uns ever!

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

Quick mixing does not equal good mixing.

Was quite disappointed by one guy who thinks his mixing is amazing. When I
finally heard one of his mixes it didn't really go right cause its was pure
and simple the wrong bits of records layered over the wrong bits - didn't
work in many places - there was some fading in an out to escape bad mixes
which sounds aweful on hardcore. Was a few moments of brilliance but
couldn't pull the mix up past its other shortcoming to be more than average.

Can't remember whose it was now - just remember being suprised at how
average it was after all the hype I'd heard.

Steve
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I have to say that I don't know who this chap is, and no disrespect to him
and that, but this is nonsense.

I think he means 8 beats after when you are ready. Rather than 8 beats after
you have taken the last one off.

Anyway, it is my opinion that you  start mixing a tune when you are ready,
not because you are forced too by some guys opinion. i found my dj'ing
improved greatly through taking my time and not rushing things. Obviously
you have to get the next tune in before the last one finishes, but take your
time. When it's ready to get mixed in, it's ready!!!

Thats my opinion anyway.....

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)


> Ok, I am reading Kid Bippy's website and he says that you should
> practice mixing until you can mix in a record after 8 beats.  How is
> that even possible?  I mean it takes me like 5 seconds just to get the
> record out of the sleeve, then another 5 to put it on the platter and
> another couple second to put the needle on and get ready.  That's
> already like 32 beats.  What am I doing wrong (aside from keeping my
> records in sleeves).  Is there some trick to putting on new records
> really quickly?  Or does he mean 8 beats after you are ready to start
> mixing?
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)

>>>Quick mixing does not equal good mixing.

Agreed!

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> Quick mixing does not equal good mixing.
>
> Was quite disappointed by one guy who thinks his mixing is amazing. When I
> finally heard one of his mixes it didn't really go right cause its was
pure
> and simple the wrong bits of records layered over the wrong bits - didn't
> work in many places - there was some fading in an out to escape bad mixes
> which sounds aweful on hardcore. Was a few moments of brilliance but
> couldn't pull the mix up past its other shortcoming to be more than
average.
>
> Can't remember whose it was now - just remember being suprised at how
> average it was after all the hype I'd heard.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.breakpirates.com
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till l8 - Mon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Wood [mailto:matt.wood666@virgin.net]
> Sent: 14 April 2004 09:36
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)
>
>
> I have to say that I don't know who this chap is, and no disrespect to him
> and that, but this is nonsense.
>
> I think he means 8 beats after when you are ready. Rather than 8 beats
after
> you have taken the last one off.
>
> Anyway, it is my opinion that you  start mixing a tune when you are ready,
> not because you are forced too by some guys opinion. i found my dj'ing
> improved greatly through taking my time and not rushing things. Obviously
> you have to get the next tune in before the last one finishes, but take
your
> time. When it's ready to get mixed in, it's ready!!!
>
> Thats my opinion anyway.....
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DigitalDjigit" <subspended@postmark.net>
> To: "Oldschool mailing list" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 4:06 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly)
>
>
> > Ok, I am reading Kid Bippy's website and he says that you should
> > practice mixing until you can mix in a record after 8 beats.  How is
> > that even possible?  I mean it takes me like 5 seconds just to get the
> > record out of the sleeve, then another 5 to put it on the platter and
> > another couple second to put the needle on and get ready.  That's
> > already like 32 beats.  What am I doing wrong (aside from keeping my
> > records in sleeves).  Is there some trick to putting on new records
> > really quickly?  Or does he mean 8 beats after you are ready to start
> > mixing?
> >
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) MixTapeology

Hiya peeps,
just after some downloadable mix tape, web sites.

any recommendations?

Cheers!

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check out:

www.niceboots.com/breakizm

for some quality sets!!


>From: "Dj Choonz" <dj_choonz@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2004 17:20:18 +0800
>
>Hiya peeps,
>just after some downloadable mix tape, web sites.
>
>any recommendations?
>
>Cheers!
>
>Choonz
>
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> Hiya peeps,
> just after some downloadable mix tape, web sites.


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Yeah - Hardcore will never die (dot com). While you still can! - Jamie.
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> Hiya peeps,
> just after some downloadable mix tape, web sites.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4006734580

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Subject: (oldschool) mixing quickly (really quickly) 

Saw D ave Clarke DJ in Melbourne last Friday......that bloke can seriously 
mix quickly...he really hammers the mixer...you almost feel sorry for it. 
Hear people like that mix and it makes you wonder why you even attempt.

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dave clarke's fuckin rad. you may remember his stormer of a track called,
"not me"(hands up who wants to die?!) by his k.o.d.(kiss of death)
project circa 91.

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Sorry for the f**k up on not adding the sound clips to the tunes on ebay
[as so many of you kindly pointed out....8)]
 
Ive now done so
 
Deathchant 17
Ind Strength 31
Energizer 1
Dream frequency 
 
etc etc etc here : http://www.clarkee.me.uk/ebay_soundclips.htm
 
Ive also created an ebay shop will sells mixed cd's have a look here :
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Clarkees-Shop_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
 
ill be adding some more old shool, gabber, acid tekno mixes and live
stuff over the next few days.
 
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Dj Clarkee
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>Quick mixing does not equal good mixing.

I think in order to be a really good dj you have to change records
every 2 minutes or so (unless it's an exceptional tune).  Most records
only have that one interesting idea and after it's out there you
should change the record to keep things interesting.  It gives the mix
a lot of energy as well.  Nothing is more boring than hearing the
tunes from beginning to end.  You just have to know your tunes very
well and select the right bits in the right sequence.

Yeah, thinking about it, there's no way to get a new tune on the
table and start mixing in 8 beats (which is like 4 seconds).  What do 
you think is realistic?  How many tunes is it possible to play in a
minute while keeping the mixing at a decent level.  I figure it's
around 1-2.  I dont' really see how it is possible to bring in a new
tune in less than 30 seconds (taking off old one, putting new on one,
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Sorry to be a spammer!!
 
Just thought you might like to know ive added a load more stuff on ebay.
Tunes, Mixed Old shool CD's, flyers etc etc.
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems
<http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=3d
slwebber&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25>
&userid=3dslwebber&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25
 
Ive also started an ebay shop so stuff is easier to find.
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Clarkees-Shop_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
 
Thats all....Hope ya weekend was cool, see ya soon.
Clarkee
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Subject: (oldschool) Badly wanted tune!

Butsch teckno themes vol 1 - little giant music - ftrax14 

hugely wanted, name your prices & i'll do me best to sort it out!  
all prices / trades seriously considered (within reason you nutters ;) )


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i have it in mp3 format, bahaha.. 
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> Butsch teckno themes vol 1 - little giant music - ftrax14 
> 
> hugely wanted, name your prices & i'll do me best to sort it out!  
> all prices / trades seriously considered (within reason you nutters ;) )
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> please help a desperate man out! 
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That'd be handy too :D

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i have it in mp3 format, bahaha.. 
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> Butsch teckno themes vol 1 - little giant music - ftrax14
> 
> hugely wanted, name your prices & i'll do me best to sort it out!
> all prices / trades seriously considered (within reason you nutters ;)
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> 
> 
> please help a desperate man out!
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From oldschool-return-88404-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 19 09:29:11 2004
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All MP3 mixes are now permanently offline due to the server blowing up.

Vie put together a CD full of MP3 mixes, for a 5'er ..

KISS YOUR FUCKEN EARS GOODBYE - VOLUME 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Smurf - Oldskool Electro Hip Hop (Studio Mix) 
Smurf - 1988 Acid House (Studio Mix) 
Smurf - Bass Generator Records Showcase. The Fubar, Stirling, Scotland -
10/12/1994
Smurf - Resistance. The Venue, Edinburgh, Scotland - 07/09/2001 (last
ever newstyle gabber set) 
Smurf - Filth. The Playrooms, Newcastle, England - 19/12/2002
Smurf - North. Lakota, Bristol - 23/02/2002
Smurf - Resistance. The Big Joint, Glasgow, Scotland - 22/03/2002
Smurf - Together As One. Los Angeles Sports Arena, Los Angeles, USA -
31/12/2002
Smurf - Faster Than Smurfs Hand During a Steps Video (Studio Mix)
Smurf - Pop Chix Mix Volume 1 (studio mix)
Smurf - French Radio Station, Montpellier, France - 07/06/2003 


KISS YOUR FUCKEN EARS GOODBYE - VOLUME 2
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Smurf - 1990s Oldskool Rave & Techno Volume 1 (Studio Mix)
Smurf - GGM v Oblivion. Club Soho, Leicester, England - 05/12/2003
Smurf - Frequency. The Sword Hotel, Stirling, Scotland - 31/12/2003
Smurf - North. Lakota, Bristol, England - 07/02/2004
Smurf - P.O.R.N. The Wall, Weelde, Belgium - 13/02/2004

Vol2 will be constantly added to throughout the year

NOTE: THIS ARE CD-R's and ONLT PLAY ON PC'S, DVD's & CD-R COMPATIBLE
HI-FI's.

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there is a 94 mix(i think) of some justice with the piano riff from =
sweet harmony over the back of the vocals. what mix is this...??? cheers =
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On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, lex wrote:

> there is a 94 mix(i think) of some justice with the piano riff from
> sweet harmony over the back of the vocals. what mix is this...??? cheers
> gyus


As far as I know it's an unreleased dubplate mix -- got a copy of it on
MP3 off of Somatic on the B2VOS forum.  Pretty sure it never got an
official release... though I'd like to be proven wrong, as it's fucking
wicked!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) some justice what mix

Yeah I've got this mix on a CD that came with a music technology mag ("The
Mix"), I'll put it up on da web. No vinyl release I don't think...



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) some justice what mix

yeah its on an old  DJ SS tape ive got from helter skelter 1994...oh well.
can u email me the MP3
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> On Mon, 19 Apr 2004, lex wrote:
>
> > there is a 94 mix(i think) of some justice with the piano riff from
> > sweet harmony over the back of the vocals. what mix is this...??? cheers
> > gyus
>
>
> As far as I know it's an unreleased dubplate mix -- got a copy of it on
> MP3 off of Somatic on the B2VOS forum.  Pretty sure it never got an
> official release... though I'd like to be proven wrong, as it's fucking
> wicked!
>
> Take care,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Badly wanted tune!

if ya give me a place to upload them, they're yours

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> That'd be handy too :D
> 
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> 
> i have it in mp3 format, bahaha.. 
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> > Butsch teckno themes vol 1 - little giant music - ftrax14
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> > hugely wanted, name your prices & i'll do me best to sort it out!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Happy Easter!

> From: "tony" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
> Can U feel
> awesome tune is urs 10" too ?

Yeah that's the one.
Top stuff all round.


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First tune with a distorted 303?

First tune with a timestretched vocal sample?


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What was that 1987 Reese Project tune with the Renegade Terrorist =
bassline? Anybosdy remember?

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"Learn Welsh with Acen"

http://www.acen.co.uk/
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Anybody out there? :(

Yes mate I'm here! - first day back at work after a relaxing Easter break
though and a ton of stuff to do so quiet-ish on the e-mail chat front.

Funnily enough, I did some work for this lot Acen when I was a youngster
(being a Cardiff lad), stuffing envelopes for a few days.  Very boring work,
but we spent the whole time working there pumping the Parks & Wilson mix
tape that I ripped for you lot a while back over and over, which was brand
spanking new then.  Happy days!

I also found out the other day that the real Acen is a mate from way back of
my friend's girlfriend, and he was at a party we were all at a few weeks
ago.  Unfortunately no-one told me until afterwards so I didn't get to shake
him by the hand and shout "overdose!" at him drunkenly, as I would no doubt
have done if I'd known it was him.

Ho hum - back to work...

Sorry Tim, I don't know what the Reese bass tune is, and your pop quiz is
too hard...

Cheers,
Kev.

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> Unfortunately no-one told me until afterwards so I didn't get to shake
> him by the hand and shout "overdose!" at him drunkenly, as I would no
doubt
> have done if I'd known it was him.

lol!

> Sorry Tim, I don't know what the Reese bass tune is, and your pop quiz is
> too hard...

"Just Want Another Chance" I've discovered, I think the timestretch vocal
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"Just Another Chance". It's on Kevin's fairly recent "Faces & Phases" album.
I used to have an MP3, but I couldn't find it the other day when I was
looking :-S


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What was that 1987 Reese Project tune with the Renegade Terrorist bassline?
Anybosdy remember?

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No idea about the 303, but I'm guessing Ray Keith's "Sweet Sensations" remix
for the timestretched vocal.

I'm pretty sure the first hardcore tune to use timestretching in any way was
"Terminator" though, but the time stretching in that is on the drums, not
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First tune with a distorted 303?

First tune with a timestretched vocal sample?


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The first track with a 303 was acid tracks by phuture (on trax). Came
out in 1986.

---chrissy

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No idea about the 303, but I'm guessing Ray Keith's "Sweet Sensations"
remix
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I'm pretty sure the first hardcore tune to use timestretching in any way
was
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First tune with a distorted 303?

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> I'm pretty sure the first hardcore tune to use timestretching in any way
was
> "Terminator" though, but the time stretching in that is on the drums, not
> the vocal.

That wasnt timestretching though, the beat was put through a HF3000 guitar
deharmoniser ;o)
I would say the first proper timestretching I remember was on DJ Hype - Shot
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> That wasnt timestretching though, the beat was put through a HF3000 guitar
> deharmoniser ;o)

That's VERY interesting, how do u know that Dest? ;)



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or watch the new video

http://www.dirtyraver.co.uk/

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz

What about Take Me Away, didn't that have some time
stretched vocal at the start, bit sketchy with the
memory tho, bit early in the day for me, no tea yet!


 --- Christopher Landis Shively <heino@ku.edu> wrote:
> The first track with a 303 was acid tracks by
> phuture (on trax). Came
> out in 1986.
> 
> ---chrissy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduard Fearns
> [mailto:eduard.fearns@ntlworld.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 6:08 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> 
> No idea about the 303, but I'm guessing Ray Keith's
> "Sweet Sensations"
> remix
> for the timestretched vocal.
> 
> I'm pretty sure the first hardcore tune to use
> timestretching in any way
> was
> "Terminator" though, but the time stretching in that
> is on the drums,
> not
> the vocal.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tim Cant" <tim.cant@ntlworld.com>
> To: "Forwardbound" <forwardbound@f4.ca>;
> <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 2:32 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz
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> 
> First tune with a distorted 303?
> 
> First tune with a timestretched vocal sample?
> 
> 
> Cheers ladz
> 
> 
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> > That wasnt timestretching though, the beat was put through a HF3000
guitar
> > deharmoniser ;o)
>
> That's VERY interesting, how do u know that Dest? ;)

Cause there is a whole chapter dedicated to Terminator, how it came about,
how it was written, etc etc in Goldie's biography.
A book I would HIGHLY recommend, even if it was just for that one chapter!!

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Subject: (oldschool) Ekude - Common Sensi

Hiya!
Anyone have 'Common Sensi' by Ekude (Boogie Times Records)?
Im just after an MP3 (160kbps or more).
if anyone can fix me up with this, pls let me know.
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Subject: (oldschool) Reese Bass  



What was that 1987 Reese Project tune with the Renegade Terrorist bassline?
Anybosdy remember?

Only one of my fave tunes ever....Reese - Just Want Another Chance on 
Incognito.
Massive bassline....such a tune....

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I have a spare of KOD if you need one.

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Subject: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz


First tune with a distorted 303?

Phuture - Acid Tracks

First tune with a timestretched vocal sample?

feck knows

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Anyone got a double or regardless a copy they want to sell of Force in
027 - The Cat's Whisker's EP?

A mate played it the other night at the regular oldskool hardcore night
and I've decided I want it in the collection! :)

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CHOO CHOO CHO CHO CHO CHOO CHOO
Hahahahah what yae like yer train spotter james heheheh
and by the way its force inc....... wolly
 
im at my place now doing an oldskool set with the hutcho
 
lookinging forward to HardsBoild 2 morro m8 should b good piss up n stuff
 
then off to da shop woo hoo
bring it on big man

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no, not even close. off by 4 years


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> First tune with a distorted 303?
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What? Are you trying to say that the first acid record was in 1982?
Explain yourself...

---chris


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no, not even close. off by 4 years


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Subject: (oldschool) In the post today (hee hee)

Do we still do in the post todays??

anyway, krome and time - sounds for the underground orig promo. bo

also 2 tickets for the Kill Bill 2 premiere in London which was on Tuesday, 
and as I was in devon on tuesday (and wednesday) I missed it. How gutted am 
I, very fucking gutted.

also a letter from my friendly bank telling me they are going to charge me 
£75 for being £1.29 over my overdraft limit. Bastards.

Kind of bitter sweet really, at least i got me SUBBASE 11 with a pretty 
logo, (for £40), Im soooo poor.

What happened to all the OT chatter we used to have on this list :(
inane banter, in depth discussions about chocolate and stuff, and all those 
lubberly trade lists. im gonna do a full trade list v. soon, expect a few 
hundred. (or less).


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Subject: (oldschool) pacman promo

anyone have the powerpill pacman yellow promo for sale or trade?

no, oh well, no ask no get :)

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In the post today: fuck all!

Anyone heard the new R-tYpe remix? It's shite!!!!!!


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Subject: (oldschool) So who uses bit torrent again?

Are there enough people on this list that use BT to warrant me doin some 
stuff up in torrent and sharing with the list?

Yeah?



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) So who uses bit torrent again?

> Are there enough people on this list that use BT to warrant me doin some 
> stuff up in torrent and sharing with the list?

i do and i suggest you try! :)

best bittorent client (my choice) can be found at:

http://bittornado.com/

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) So who uses bit torrent again?

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 23:19:14 -0400, Eric Beaurivage <cyre@videotron.ca> 
wrote:

>> Are there enough people on this list that use BT to warrant me doin some
>> stuff up in torrent and sharing with the list?
>
> i do and i suggest you try! :)


Ok, I'll do up that live Prodigy set in a few days.


> best bittorent client (my choice) can be found at:
>
> http://bittornado.com/


Based on Shadow's, innit?  I use Shadow's.  Same thing, pretty much, yeah?




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz

>in Goldie's biography. 
>A book I would HIGHLY recommend, even if it was just for that one >chapter!!

Do you remember the name, I am having trouble finding it.

Weren't the strings in Terminator timestretched?



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> >in Goldie's biography.
> >A book I would HIGHLY recommend, even if it was just for that one
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> Do you remember the name, I am having trouble finding it.

Its called Goldie - Nine lives, amazon.co.uk have got it on special offer
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> Its called Goldie - Nine lives, amazon.co.uk have got it on special offer
> (ive just looked)

I bet Golide didn't even write it, he was probably just happened to be in
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) pacman promo

i have it. will sell

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> anyone have the powerpill pacman yellow promo for sale or trade?
> 
> no, oh well, no ask no get :)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) In the post today (hee hee)

mate- b2vos is the place for you then!

off topic forum there is mad lol, much more active than the list

www.backtotheoldskool.co.uk n head for the forum!



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>Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 01:27:42 +0000
>
>Do we still do in the post todays??
>
>anyway, krome and time - sounds for the underground orig promo. bo
>
>also 2 tickets for the Kill Bill 2 premiere in London which was on Tuesday, 
>and as I was in devon on tuesday (and wednesday) I missed it. How gutted am 
>I, very fucking gutted.
>
>also a letter from my friendly bank telling me they are going to charge me 
>£75 for being £1.29 over my overdraft limit. Bastards.
>
>Kind of bitter sweet really, at least i got me SUBBASE 11 with a pretty 
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>What happened to all the OT chatter we used to have on this list :(
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>
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Subject: (oldschool) The Prodigy - Fat Of Karen (Live in Sweden 1994) - torrent

Here ya go, as promised:

<http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/torrents/The_Prodigy_-_The_Fat_Of_Karen.torrent>


The Prodigy
The Karen - Gothenburgh - Sweden
11/25/94

01.  Your Love 01:40
02.  Love Bed 00:35
03.  Live Beats 02:21
04.  Voodoo People 04:11
05.  Rhythm Of Life 05:10
06.  Poison 02:51
07.  Out Of Space 04:30
08.  Acid Break 04:46
09.  Their Law 05:08
10.  Skylined 04:01
11.  Rock N Roll 02:22
12.  Start The Dance 04:49
13.  Horns Of Jericho 03:45
14.  One Love 08:13
15.  Live Gabba 06:11





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Subject: (oldschool) speaking of bit torrent

I created a group for electronic music torrents:

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/ravetorrents/


yahoogroups has a file section and such, pass it around  =)




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I just had an email witha a viral attatchment from =
djmoody@oldskoolmadness.com

Just thought I'd warn you guys. Hope you haven't been too badly infected =
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Time stretched vocal how about Wood Allen - Airport 89? ...no guesses for 
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Subject: (oldschool) I have some money to spend

if anyone fancies selling something special.

Top of the list is:

Black Dog - Age of Slack (dogism EP)
K Alexi - All for Lee Sah
Success n Effect - Let the Bass Kick
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all must be original in good condition, payment would be UK cheque postage 
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this vocal sample was used on some old acid track...I though Acid Trax but 
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Its Cocaine by Phuture (at least I think thats who did it?...)



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> this vocal sample was used on some old acid track...I though Acid Trax but
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The track is "Your Only Friend" by Phuture
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> Time stretched vocal how about Wood Allen - Airport 89? ...no guesses for
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Downloaded the tune - where's the timestretched vocal?

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My sister is in Seoul and she saw a flyer for a jungle show where =
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yeah i remember that night....the rider was sitting in a indian resturant
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The track is "Your Only Friend" by Phuture
It is the B-Side to Acid Tracks

Chris your a star mate.....yet another example of me not taking much notice 
of b sides.
When will I learn. Will check asap...many thanks mate

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>Time stretched vocal how about Wood Allen - Airport 89? ...no guesses for
>the year on that one.

Downloaded the tune - where's the timestretched vocal?

As for distorted 303, I don't jsut mean a 303 with wibbly programming, I
mean full on overdrive like on "Higher State of Conciousness"

hmmmm....well Tim I tried mate. Distorted 303 bot just a 303...feck knows 
pal some early 90's
german techno perhaps.....Thomas Heckman, Chris Liebing. The wood allen 
track has a female vocal which I though was timestretched but I bow to your 
knowledge. How about some answers then!!!

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Subject: (oldschool)  In the post today

Well - back to work for me for the first time in nearly 3 weeks. Not very
happy today as you can understand. I did pickup some new tracks though...

16 of the first 20 Basement (all originals)...
Tango and Ratty - Tales from the Darkside
MC Leathal - Rave Digger
Outlander - Vamp
LSD EP (Moving Shadow)
Krispy Krouton EP v1 & 2

Shead loads more but my head needs to edge in slowly today.

Hope all is well with eveyone =)

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> Colin you sly dog.. how on earth did you get those Krispy Kroutons? I've
> wanted no 1 for years!!

Woof. There are a lot more records in Perth than I would have ever imagined
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> hmmmm....well Tim I tried mate. Distorted 303 bot just a 303...feck knows
> pal some early 90's
> german techno perhaps.....Thomas Heckman, Chris Liebing. The wood allen
> track has a female vocal which I though was timestretched but I bow to
your
> knowledge. How about some answers then!!!

I don't know, I was writing somehting and I wanted some help but it was ages
ago and I'm still none the wiser! ;)

That wood allen track is wicked anyway btw, if memory serves the female vox
is just gated a bit, perhaps I need to listen again. Any other early
hardcore tune recommendations gratefully receved.

So then, the big one - what's the first hardcore tune????



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on 28/4/04 9:49 AM, Tim Cant at tim.cant@ntlworld.com wrote:

> So then, the big one - what's the first hardcore tune????

Jaysus - talking about starting a contreversial thread ;)

People have got al sorts of ideas of what hardcore is in the first place but
a few well knon ones that jump to (my) mind from the early 90s would be...

Hypnotist - Hardcore EP

Early Beltram tunes on R&S

Early stuff on Jumpin & Pumpin which made a hardcore crossover from techno
(ie The Tingler)

Eon - Spice

and then you have got tracks such as... which could be disputed wether they
are hardcore or not...

HHFD - Total Confusion

Humanoid - Stakker Humanoid

SOR - Homicide / Exorcist

The Scientist - Exorcist

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>> So then, the big one - what's the first hardcore tune????

Lennie de Ice - We Are I.E.  ???

Do I win a prize?

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Nice haul, Colin!

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> Well - back to work for me for the first time in nearly 3 weeks. Not very
> happy today as you can understand. I did pickup some new tracks though...
> 
> 16 of the first 20 Basement (all originals)...
> Tango and Ratty - Tales from the Darkside
> MC Leathal - Rave Digger
> Outlander - Vamp
> LSD EP (Moving Shadow)
> Krispy Krouton EP v1 & 2
> 
> Shead loads more but my head needs to edge in slowly today.
> 
> Hope all is well with eveyone =)
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin Dee.
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For sure Kev. I got about another 20 or so that I cannot even recall. A few
Tango bits, some 3rd Party stuff, early MS bits that I didnt have. There are
about another 90 records I listened to and wanted but left there due to lack
of mulla so I'll be saving my pennies for a few weeks yet =)

Cheers,
Colin Dee.

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> Nice haul, Colin!
> 
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>> Well - back to work for me for the first time in nearly 3 weeks. Not very
>> happy today as you can understand. I did pickup some new tracks though...
>> 
>> 16 of the first 20 Basement (all originals)...
>> Tango and Ratty - Tales from the Darkside
>> MC Leathal - Rave Digger
>> Outlander - Vamp
>> LSD EP (Moving Shadow)
>> Krispy Krouton EP v1 & 2
>> 
>> Shead loads more but my head needs to edge in slowly today.
>> 
>> Hope all is well with eveyone =)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Colin Dee.



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if anyone could id these tracks i would love them

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the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02


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I dunno, but you could try mailing the address in the info tag of the file :
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if anyone could id these tracks i would love them

http://www.djsinestro.com/mixes/02%20Terry%20Mullan%20-%20[Hard%20To%20The%20Core%201991].mp3


the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02


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don't be silly

thats too obvious ;)

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> thank you in advance!!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz  

Well I would say that this was probably the first hardcore tune, but then I
thought about it, and I'm thinking that it isn't. There were definatelt
other tunes which were earlier than this tune.
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> >> So then, the big one - what's the first hardcore tune????
>
> Lennie de Ice - We Are I.E.  ???
>
> Do I win a prize?
>
> ;)
>
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!

I don't think e27_@hotmail.com is Terry Mullan  :)




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> don't be silly
>
> thats too obvious ;)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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>> I dunno, but you could try mailing the address in the info tag of the 
>> file
> :
>> e27_@hotmail.com, to ask?  I assume it's the guy who did the mix.
>>
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>> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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>>
>>
>> if anyone could id these tracks i would love them
>>
>>
> http://www.djsinestro.com/mixes/02%20Terry%20Mullan%20-%20[Hard%20To%20The%20Core%201991].mp3
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>> the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz  

Ok, here's my question:

What was the first tune to be CALLED Hardcore? (in print, on the label, in 
the scene, etc)

(those are probably three different answers)






On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:48:46 +0100, Matt Wood <matt.wood666@virgin.net> 
wrote:

> Well I would say that this was probably the first hardcore tune, but 
> then I
> thought about it, and I'm thinking that it isn't. There were definatelt
> other tunes which were earlier than this tune.
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 7:19 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT Pop quiz
>
>
>> >> So then, the big one - what's the first hardcore tune????
>>
>> Lennie de Ice - We Are I.E.  ???
>>
>> Do I win a prize?
>>
>> ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.djentropy.com
>>
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>> Robot
>> "The only thing you can do with your money that's bad for the economy is
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!

i didnt say he was :op

who is Terry Mullen n e way??

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> I don't think e27_@hotmail.com is Terry Mullan  :)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:51:38 +0100, pH@TB!TcH <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > don't be silly
> >
> > thats too obvious ;)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
> >
> >
> >> I dunno, but you could try mailing the address in the info tag of the
> >> file
> > :
> >> e27_@hotmail.com, to ask?  I assume it's the guy who did the mix.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "sinestro" <sinestro@djsinestro.com>
> >> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:23 PM
> >> Subject: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> if anyone could id these tracks i would love them
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.djsinestro.com/mixes/02%20Terry%20Mullan%20-%20[Hard%20To%20The%20Core%201991].mp3
> >>
> >>
> >> the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02
> >>
> >>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:16:34 +0100, pH@TB!TcH <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> 
wrote:

> i didnt say he was :op
>
> who is Terry Mullen n e way??


Pretty big DJ in the states (or was anyway, when we had a scene).  He 
plays house now, but used to play a lot of hardcore and weird tweaky acid 
stuff back in the early 90s.






> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:53 AM
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>
>
>> I don't think e27_@hotmail.com is Terry Mullan  :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:51:38 +0100, pH@TB!TcH <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > don't be silly
>> >
>> > thats too obvious ;)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
>> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:19 AM
>> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
>> >
>> >
>> >> I dunno, but you could try mailing the address in the info tag of the
>> >> file
>> > :
>> >> e27_@hotmail.com, to ask?  I assume it's the guy who did the mix.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "sinestro" <sinestro@djsinestro.com>
>> >> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:23 PM
>> >> Subject: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> if anyone could id these tracks i would love them
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
> http://www.djsinestro.com/mixes/02%20Terry%20Mullan%20-%20[Hard%20To%20The%20Core%201991].mp3
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02
>> >>
>> >>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!

You're probably right - but you never know...!

----- Original Message ----- 
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> I don't think e27_@hotmail.com is Terry Mullan  :)
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:51:38 +0100, pH@TB!TcH <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > don't be silly
> >
> > thats too obvious ;)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:19 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
> >
> >
> >> I dunno, but you could try mailing the address in the info tag of the
> >> file
> > :
> >> e27_@hotmail.com, to ask?  I assume it's the guy who did the mix.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "sinestro" <sinestro@djsinestro.com>
> >> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:23 PM
> >> Subject: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> if anyone could id these tracks i would love them
> >>
> >>
> >
http://www.djsinestro.com/mixes/02%20Terry%20Mullan%20-%20[Hard%20To%20The%20Core%201991].mp3
> >>
> >>
> >> the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02
> >>
> >>
> >> thank you in advance!!
> >>
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Subject: (oldschool) Another Wrinkle in the MP3-downloads game

www.allofmp3.com

a russian site offering downloads at a metered rate
per MB. they store tracks and albums in an
uncompressed form, you request an mp3/ogg in whatever
bitrate you desire, they transfer the tunes to you at
$.05 USD/MB.

I was wondering when someone would take the game
offshore.


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emptor, indeed..."


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!

Mmmmm Old Terry Mullan schtuff... Mmllmmmm.

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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 12:16:34 +0100, pH@TB!TcH <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>=20
wrote:

> i didnt say he was :op
>
> who is Terry Mullen n e way??


Pretty big DJ in the states (or was anyway, when we had a scene).  He=20
plays house now, but used to play a lot of hardcore and weird tweaky =
acid=20
stuff back in the early 90s.






> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:53 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
>
>
>> I don't think e27_@hotmail.com is Terry Mullan  :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 11:51:38 +0100, pH@TB!TcH <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > don't be silly
>> >
>> > thats too obvious ;)
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
>> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 11:19 AM
>> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
>> >
>> >
>> >> I dunno, but you could try mailing the address in the info tag of =
the
>> >> file
>> > :
>> >> e27_@hotmail.com, to ask?  I assume it's the guy who did the mix.
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "sinestro" <sinestro@djsinestro.com>
>> >> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:23 PM
>> >> Subject: (oldschool) oh god i need help!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> if anyone could id these tracks i would love them
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>
http://www.djsinestro.com/mixes/02%20Terry%20Mullan%20-%20[Hard%20To%20Th=
e%2
0Core%201991].mp3
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> the tracks are at 22:50 and 27:02
>> >>
>> >>
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Subject: (oldschool) GABBER

hi i have listed some gabber on to the eBay website, here are some of the 
things i have listed:

DEAD END LIMITED 1 - SARIN ASSULT - ONLY 150
EPILEPTIK 06 - SARIN ASSAULT - GABBER
EPILEPTIK HS 2-1 - SOUTH OF LONDON - GABBER
INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH 32 - BLOOBY FIST SAMPLER
MOKUM 46 - CHOSEN FEW - LOVE ME BAD - RARE
NAPALM 02 - 5 CLASSIC GABBER TRACKS 500 ONLY
NAPALM 07 - 6 CLASSIC GABBER TRACKS 500 ONLY
NAPALM 10 - 4 CLASSIC GABBER TRACKS 500 ONLY
PRAXIS 22 - H - TEST TUBE KID - RARE GABBER
PSYCHIK GENOCIDE 03 - ANDROGYN NETWORK
PSYCHIK GENOCIDE 06 - PRODUCER Vs HELLFISH
STRIKE 15 - STRIKE Vs BLOODY FIST - RARE

HERE IS THE LINK TO MY AUCTIONS:

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=djd-stroy_john&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=50



any questions please e-mail me..

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Subject: (oldschool)  its been a long time.......500 x hardcore tunes for sale at www.destinyrecords.co.uk

its been a long time.......
1st mailout in nearly 2 years!!
500 x classic happyhardcore tunes have just been put up for sale on the www.destinyrecords.co.uk website

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another Wrinkle in the MP3-downloads game

5 cents a MB, whoa, that's mad cheap.

Russia rules.



On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 13:15:20 -0700 (PDT), Warble_VX <root_dev_x@yahoo.com> 
wrote:

> www.allofmp3.com
>
> a russian site offering downloads at a metered rate
> per MB. they store tracks and albums in an
> uncompressed form, you request an mp3/ogg in whatever
> bitrate you desire, they transfer the tunes to you at
> $.05 USD/MB.
>
> I was wondering when someone would take the game
> offshore.
>
>
> thanks to el reg for the heads up... to quote, "caveat
> emptor, indeed..."
>
>
> -WVX
>
>
> 	
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on 29/4/04 4:15 AM, Warble_VX at root_dev_x@yahoo.com wrote:

> www.allofmp3.com
> 
> a russian site offering downloads at a metered rate
> per MB. they store tracks and albums in an
> uncompressed form, you request an mp3/ogg in whatever
> bitrate you desire, they transfer the tunes to you at
> $.05 USD/MB.

That's a good rate per MB. Considering that a standard track at 192kpbs
(Good CD Quality) is usually anyware between 5Mb and 8Mb, then the most you
will be paying for a song is USD0.40. Not bad.

The 99c cap has been somewhat good as we now have AU companies doing the
same however the USD is stronger than the AUD so paying AUD0.99 becomes not
a bad price compared to the rest.

<http://bigpondmusic.com/>

Cheers,
Colin Dee.




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another Wrinkle in the MP3-downloads game

It looks even cheaper from what I have found out so far:

"The price of the 1 Megabyte of the traffic for the media-materials marked
as VIP or Online Encoding is 0.01 USD.
The price of the 1 Megabyte of the traffic for the media-materials marked as
Online Encoding Exclusive is 0.02 USD."

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> on 29/4/04 4:15 AM, Warble_VX at root_dev_x@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > www.allofmp3.com
> >
> > a russian site offering downloads at a metered rate
> > per MB. they store tracks and albums in an
> > uncompressed form, you request an mp3/ogg in whatever
> > bitrate you desire, they transfer the tunes to you at
> > $.05 USD/MB.
>
> That's a good rate per MB. Considering that a standard track at 192kpbs
> (Good CD Quality) is usually anyware between 5Mb and 8Mb, then the most
you
> will be paying for a song is USD0.40. Not bad.
>
> The 99c cap has been somewhat good as we now have AU companies doing the
> same however the USD is stronger than the AUD so paying AUD0.99 becomes
not
> a bad price compared to the rest.
>
> <http://bigpondmusic.com/>
>
> Cheers,
> Colin Dee.
>
>
>
>
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Flarkin' Scotto....such a selfish prick...don't know if you guys deal with him over on your side of the fence, but if you hear the name....RUN in the other direction!!  Don't do business with him, he will only turn around an screw you good...  and business -wise, thats not a good thing  ;)
 
Poor DB...such a good guy - only wanted good things for the scene over here...then greed disguised as a skinny long haired freak steps in.
 
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On a related note, pieces of my email review are on his website:

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> On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:30:12 -0700 (PDT), kdorman11@yahoo.com 
> <kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Flarkin' Scotto....such a selfish prick...don't know if you guys deal 
> with him over on your side of the fence, but if you hear the name....RUN 
> in the other direction!!  Don't do business with him, he will only turn 
> around an screw you good...  and business -wise, thats not a good thing  
> ;)
>
> Poor DB...such a good guy - only wanted good things for the scene over 
> here...then greed disguised as a skinny long haired freak steps in.
>
> http://www.knottyknotty.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22569&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Bad news on the States shore...

Jesus what a right kharnt that Scotty bloke sounds like..

Sounds like that DB chap had nothing but the best intentions of
recreating a classic night and atmosphere and got totally burned for it.

We had a few types like him in Perth's earlier scene, thankfully for the
most part, they have either fled our shores or they're dead.


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>
> Flarkin' Scotto....such a selfish prick...don't know if you guys deal with
him over on your side of the fence, but if you hear the name....RUN in the
other direction!!  Don't do business with him, he will only turn around an
screw you good...  and business -wise, thats not a good thing  ;)
>
> Poor DB...such a good guy - only wanted good things for the scene over
here...then greed disguised as a skinny long haired freak steps in.
>
>
http://www.knottyknotty.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=22569&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs

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