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Subject: RE: (oldschool) X Project 3 - Conquering Lion for Sale

I know! Mind you its nice when he bids on my auctions ;-)

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i know what you mean. this guy spends soooo much money on records. He had no
problems dropping £250 on me a few months ago. I've seen him bid on tunes
that he's already won aswell. He must have an amazing job.


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> I was thinking the same - I dread getting into bidding wars with him - he
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My brother just found one of my favourite tapes ever - I haven't =
listened to it for almost four years and it's still wicked as ever.

Special K b2b Flapjack @ Desire NYE 95 (or 94 not sure)

I'm just recording it on my pc, so if anyone has some webspace where he =
wants to put it, let me know. Otherwise i will just be sharing it =
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) X Project 3 - Conquering Lion for Sale


when ur watchin an auction and then he's biddin u know its game over! (90% 
of the time!)

in fact theres a few e-bayers like that now in the oldskool section aint 
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>I know! Mind you its nice when he bids on my auctions ;-)
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>i know what you mean. this guy spends soooo much money on records. He had 
>no
>problems dropping £250 on me a few months ago. I've seen him bid on tunes
>that he's already won aswell. He must have an amazing job.
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yes! ;-)

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when ur watchin an auction and then he's biddin u know its game over! (90% 
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in fact theres a few e-bayers like that now in the oldskool section aint 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Back to the old school forum

http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/

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> whats the link for this please?

http://www.backtotheoldskool.co.uk/phpBB2/
 
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Subject: (oldschool) New Vibena material

Yes folks, new tune, old stylee, new influences. Blame Skywalker, cause he
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tim.cant/Vibena%20-%20Wicked%20Atmospherics%20(mastered).mp3

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) New Vibena material

I love this tune.
Nice one Tim!

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> Yes folks, new tune, old stylee, new influences. Blame Skywalker, cause he
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) New Vibena material

Heheheheh trust Tim to let the cat out of the bag!!

Forthcoming on Nu Underground Recordings...

Dave

> > Yes folks, new tune, old stylee, new influences. Blame Skywalker, cause
he
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> >
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Anyone know which 91/92 tune had the following Dirty Harry sample:=0D
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How many of these were pressed up with the moving shadow logo ?

Im gonna whack my copy up on e-bay, so i want to get my facts right !

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Allo :o)

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How many of these were pressed up with the moving shadow logo ?

Im gonna whack my copy up on e-bay, so i want to get my facts right !

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I've just been too busy working on a load of choons for Canada Day, plus a
buncha other projects, to check this email account very often. Not to
mention playing with all my new toys.


> 
> > Well its not like it was a year ago when i used to be on the list ive just
> > come back on again but yer not as many ppl on the list as it used to have
> > were is everyone
> > did thwey get sick off all the mail that we used to get or what
> 
> I think a lot of people have now moved onto the forum type list (ie
> web-based ones). IMO - they are okay but I find the email lists much better.
> No sitting around waiting for friggin huge picture sigs at the end of
> peoples messages. Text based sigs are a trial at times, pictures ones.... no
> no.
> 
> Colin Dee.
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Happy bday, sorry it's a few days late.

> someone is 25 today
> 
> :-D
> 
> Checkout the "Birthday Blastoff" 6.30-8pm on www.breakpirates.com tonight.
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Her neck's too long for her body...other than that, she's nice lookin'.

> Ahh shes not that bad..
> 
> I wouldn't go so far as to say pig ugly..
> 
> Shes got long legs.. you have to think of other possibilities..
> 
> ;P~~~~~
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Welcome back.


> Hiya
> Just introducing myself to  the list im chris
> I have been into the rave scene since 1990 and also un-subbed from this list
> about
> 2 years ago and now have felt the urge to come back.
> 
> I do my own free parties called the FEELING-OF-LIFE and have
> one huge passion for the old skool vibe and way of life.
> 
> any way thats me
> 
> catch ya later
> 
> Chris
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's

I'd have a go at 'em, but can't really get 'em via email. If you could
stick 'em all on a website, or zip 'em and UL them to an ftp, that'd be
good...try this maybe:

ftp.basscore.ca 
login: bass@basscore.ca
pass: basscore

but keep it on the d/l for now.



 > > 
> > I have at least 4 volunteers and thats not including Leo who is keeping 
> > suspiciously quiet.
> 
> Im up for 92 hardcore onwards too :)
> 
>  
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's

Or you can send them through ICQ (18086089) if my firewall will let me
receive from you (I can send to some people, receive from some people,
some people I can do both, and some neither...same is true for MSN, but
it's mostly neither).

I've started buying a load of acid house lately, and I'm also really
focusing on the '91 sound (I'm better at mixing it than the '92/'93
stuff), so I might be able to help some.


> This is staggering really but after lord knows how long on this list I now 
> have managed to encode MP3 soundclips from all my unknowns from tapes from 
> 1988 onwards. I have a real mixture...lots of early house, some acid, 90/91 
> breakbeat maybe 92 not later though, few techno bits and some odds and sods.
> 
> Now I am not sure how you guys post these soundclips on the list but I think 
> you have your own websites...I certainly do not.
> 
> Dest mate - I don't think I can post attachments right?
> 
> In which case I need a few peeps who would not mind me sending them clips 
> direct....can I have some volunteers? Especially peeps who know there 
> grandad oldskool.
> 
> cheers
> 
> Andrew
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Back to the old school forum

in fact, if I can do a bit of a plug for this forum, theres a production
competition going on here:-
http://www.backtotheoldskool.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13698
the idea being to produce a 100% original hardcore tune (ie no samples other
than a limited samplepack of breaks). Link to listen to the tracks is in the
thread, as is the poll to vote for your favourite.

go on have a listen, you know you want to! :)



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) X Project 3 - Conquering Lion for Sale



On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Tim Cant wrote:

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> That Rokabe bids on shitloads - he must have $$$$$$$$


Tell me about it. He bids on almost every auction is seems.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Blame - Seal Version

ey up Vicky !!    long time no speak !!   

How you doin ??  

When did you resub ??


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> Allo :o)
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> How many of these were pressed up with the moving shadow logo ?
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> Im gonna whack my copy up on e-bay, so i want to get my facts right !
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) New Vibena material

yes yes Tim

woz bopping to this all weekend round Dave's
and a few other unreleased tunage on Daves HD

big tings a gwarn

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> Heheheheh trust Tim to let the cat out of the bag!!
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> Forthcoming on Nu Underground Recordings...
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> Dave
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> > > Yes folks, new tune, old stylee, new influences. Blame Skywalker,
cause
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Subject: (oldschool) 4 sale

shy fx- ganster kid / ganster kid 2- sour #12 £20
dragonfly ep 1- btb#9 £10
happy trax vol 3- happy recs #8 £5
bass construction- dance with power- elicit #3 £8
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foul play- finest illusion (illegal)- black label £70 (marked)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's

Cheers Leo and Dest your in - and yes there is some 92+ hardcore ID's 
required....found a few on some old easygroove tape from Fantasia amongst 
others.

Still have not sent any out yet as I have not quite successfully worked out 
converting the wav files to ra clips. Thought I had done it perfectly but it 
seems I fucked up somewhere.....Do you guys use Soundforge for this? I think 
Eddie has asked but anyone could anyone post the exact process required? 
(knowing digest someone has already done this)

At least I have an entire audio CD full of playable clips though so progress 
is being made - must try and keep of the corn long enough to sort this out 
tonight though.

many thanks

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Subject: (oldschool) Stand by Acid

Anyone own this?......early booty of Phutures - Acid Trax and Ben E Kings 
Stand by Me.

How rare is it?

cheers

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Stand by Acid

Check it out Andy..

http://www.gemm.com/ddc/search.pl?sid=362611042&key=99112&a_refno=GML7570975
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WOHOO!!

I could put this up for a week or so for peeps on the list to download if
you like - not permanent and not linked from a site or anything though.
If you've no better offers e-mail me the file or point me to where I can d/l
it.
I'm on slsk too - could get it on there if you let me know your username,
and then I'll post it up (I'm "BassHead" - cheesy I know sorry but think i
was pissed when I first signed up and I've never bothered changing it).

Is this the Special K from Brighton?
I've got a tape of his from about 1992/3 which is amazing but I think there
might have been a few "Special K"'s around and about.


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Subject: (oldschool) WOHOO!!


My brother just found one of my favourite tapes ever - I haven't listened to
it for almost four years and it's still wicked as ever.

Special K b2b Flapjack @ Desire NYE 95 (or 94 not sure)

I'm just recording it on my pc, so if anyone has some webspace where he
wants to put it, let me know. Otherwise i will just be sharing it through
soulseek and DC++.

Milosz


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Subject: (oldschool) Vague Tune ID...

probably 1991, some screechy rave noises, prototype-jungle beat bouncy
b-line with the sample "drop just like a bulldog".
It's a massive tune... it's just gone from my head at the mo.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's

> Still have not sent any out yet as I have not quite successfully worked
out
> converting the wav files to ra clips. Thought I had done it perfectly but
it
> seems I fucked up somewhere.....Do you guys use Soundforge for this? I
think
> Eddie has asked but anyone could anyone post the exact process required?

 If you already have the clip as a wav, its really simple :)
Load the sample into Sound Forge, choose Save as, then choose the file type
(Real Audio .rm) check the template is set some a decent amount (56kbps
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Vague Tune ID...

i thought the sample was 'drop this like a boulder' but can't remember the
name for the life of me :-/
long shot but it ain't the bouncer track is it? 'if yer names not down you
ain't coming in'

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probably 1991, some screechy rave noises, prototype-jungle beat bouncy
b-line with the sample "drop just like a bulldog".
It's a massive tune... it's just gone from my head at the mo.
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> i thought the sample was 'drop this like a boulder'
Yeah it might well be - would make more sense so probably is - I'm
notoriously bad for not having a clue what words people are saying!
Hearings f*cked from too many raves, innit (or maybe just from one or two
times too near the speakers...).
Too much bass makes my ears hurt these days :o(

> long shot but it ain't the bouncer track is it?
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> i thought the sample was 'drop this like a boulder' but can't remember the
> name for the life of me :-/


Timebass - Fireball - Boogie Times ?
 
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Currently loving this - its dnb but what the heck

Twisted Individual - "It Does Exactly What It Says On The Tin Or Your =
Money Back" - Formation

I'll be playing a dub of it tonight on my show 6.30-9 as I'm doing a dnb =
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warrant, www.breakpirates.com innit.

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think that may well be the one i was thinking of dunno if it's the one that
was originally being asked about ;)

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> i thought the sample was 'drop this like a boulder' but can't remember the
> name for the life of me :-/


Timebass - Fireball - Boogie Times ?

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Maybe... cheers, Dest. I'll try to find an mp3 of this to check it out.

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> > i thought the sample was 'drop this like a boulder' but can't remember
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> > name for the life of me :-/
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> Timebass - Fireball - Boogie Times ?
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> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Currently loving this - its dnb but what the heck

Twisted Individual - "It Does Exactly What It Says On The Tin Or Your Money
Back" - Formation

I'll be playing a dub of it tonight

Playing a dub mate?! I picked it up on promo the other week, its all about
Bandwagon Blues!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's

Thankyou Damaja for your offer and destiny too!

Right, whilst I've been fucking about like a stoned idiot, my girlie seems 
to have sorted it - like you say Leo apparently it was indeed a peice of 
piss to do.

So, volunteers are now getting sent a trial MP3 clip...just one...lemme know 
how big the file  is and how many I should send you. I have 70+ broken down 
into old house (pre 90), breakbeat (89-92), hardcore (90-93ish...bit of a 
crossover with breakbeat admittedly), newer house (90-95) and Techno.

For those getting sent one now....this is a real beauty of a tune thats been 
bugging me for a long time...one of my top 10 ID's needed. Its in the old 
house category. Let me know if the quality is OK....all clips will be 60 
secs or less.

really appreciated peeps

cheers

Andrew

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no its not its a breakbeat tune not early house...ffs!

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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: RE: (oldschool) Stand by Acid

Cheers for the link James

I think I have just bought it if thats the copy on ebay....I paid a tenner.
I have heard about this but never seen copies...anyone own? Acid Tracks is 
one
of the seminal acid house toons (arguable the first ever)....should be a 
giggle
with Stand By Me vocals on top....I've never heard it though.

cheers

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Ahh the lovely Vics returns - as I wipe a tear from my eye.......the family 
is reuniting again slowly.

welcome back daarlin

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Hello Miss Vale, how's the world treating you? Long time no hear!

Dave

> Ahh the lovely Vics returns - as I wipe a tear from my eye.......the
family
> is reuniting again slowly.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tooooooooooooon!!!

muppets!!!!!

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Currently loving this - its dnb but what the heck

Twisted Individual - "It Does Exactly What It Says On The Tin Or Your
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I'll be playing a dub of it tonight

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Dee Patten - Who's the Bad Man_Jimmy Cliff

Wikked toonage...

Original sample from the film 'harder they come' starring Jimmy Cliff
most famous movie to ever come out of Jamaica.. I actually bought the
12in for =A325 in '95 and added it to an album I devised and compiled
called Havin'it Classic's.

Acceeeeddddddddddddd


Wayne Anthony www.wayne-anthony.com

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>hi peeps,

>what's the version of Dee Patten 'Who's the Bad Man' that gets played
by
>Ratpack and several old skool deejays on the London circuit?=20


dat tune is sooo pantz

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> yes yes Tim
>
> woz bopping to this all weekend round Dave's
> and a few other unreleased tunage on Daves HD

Maybe I'll let u off the Dee Patten thing then ;)

In case anyone missed it:

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/tim.cant/Vibena%20-%20Wicked%20Atmospherics%20(mastered).mp3

ta ta!

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He doesnt bid on auctions for secondhand underwear as well does he? ;-)

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On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Tim Cant wrote:

>
> That Rokabe bids on shitloads - he must have $$$$$$$$


Tell me about it. He bids on almost every auction is seems.

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AVE IT

were all coming back to cause trouble again!!

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Ahh the lovely Vics returns - as I wipe a tear from my eye.......the family
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welcome back daarlin

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tooooooooooooon!!!


It's on full release this week.  crap tunes imo.   *shrug*



Lee



Quoting DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>:

> Currently loving this - its dnb but what the heck
> 
> Twisted Individual - "It Does Exactly What It Says On The Tin Or Your Money
> Back" - Formation
> 
> I'll be playing a dub of it tonight
> 
> Playing a dub mate?! I picked it up on promo the other week, its all about
> Bandwagon Blues!
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> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Subject: RE: (oldschool) Blame - Seal Version

Oi Vicky=2E=2E=2E=2Estop stealing my thread !  ;o)

so=2E=2E=2Eanyone gonna tell me how many copies of Blame - Seal there were=
 then ?
I know it was discussed a while back, but my memory is shot to pieces !

Cheers

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AVE IT

were all coming back to cause trouble again!!

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Ahh the lovely Vics returns - as I wipe a tear from my eye=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=2E=
=2Ethe family
is reuniting again slowly=2E

welcome back daarlin

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's

the file is ok for me as im on fast broadband - i dont know what it is
but I like the sound of it, so if anyone can shed some light on it it would
be of help to moi as well!!

I uploaded it here to make it easy.....

http://www.techhouseboard.org/unid/BreakbeatID1.mp3



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Thankyou Damaja for your offer and destiny too!

Right, whilst I've been fucking about like a stoned idiot, my girlie seems
to have sorted it - like you say Leo apparently it was indeed a peice of
piss to do.

So, volunteers are now getting sent a trial MP3 clip...just one...lemme know
how big the file  is and how many I should send you. I have 70+ broken down
into old house (pre 90), breakbeat (89-92), hardcore (90-93ish...bit of a
crossover with breakbeat admittedly), newer house (90-95) and Techno.

For those getting sent one now....this is a real beauty of a tune thats been
bugging me for a long time...one of my top 10 ID's needed. Its in the old
house category. Let me know if the quality is OK....all clips will be 60
secs or less.

really appreciated peeps

cheers

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Yeah just checked this out - that's the one cheers!

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> > i thought the sample was 'drop this like a boulder' but can't remember
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vague Tune ID... 

probably 1991, some screechy rave noises, prototype-jungle beat bouncy

b-line with the sample "drop just like a bulldog". 
It's a massive tune... it's just gone from my head at the mo. 
Sorry about the terrible description, but hopefully someone can get
it from 
the sample. 
**************

Timebase - Fireball on Boogie Times (or Subbase?)
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not really into twisted, dont mind some of his more liquid ventures like 
pony pleasure.

oh but i do loove gusset gravy its baaad

dave t

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>Currently loving this - its dnb but what the heck
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with the original Seal vocal? about 100 escaped and 50 are in Rob Playford's
secret cupboard - he sells one every
time he needs some extra dosh! ;-)

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Oi Vicky....stop stealing my thread !  ;o)

so...anyone gonna tell me how many copies of Blame - Seal there were then ?
I know it was discussed a while back, but my memory is shot to pieces !

Cheers

Alex



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AVE IT

were all coming back to cause trouble again!!

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Ahh the lovely Vics returns - as I wipe a tear from my eye.......the family
is reuniting again slowly.

welcome back daarlin

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Oh well, i guessed at 200 copies !!

Lets see how how much it goes for then !

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2542983880


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> so...anyone gonna tell me how many copies of Blame - Seal there were then
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Subject: (oldschool) tune ID

Hi all, 

I've been after a tune for ages with the vocals:

"Take me higher.. take me.. take me higher"

It got rinsed at the techno club I used to go to as an underager in 92, but
I never found out who it was by.. crap description I know, but I was 16!

Unfortunately there seems to be quite a few tunes with this title..

Hysteria / Blast - Take me higher (I have this one)
Enrage - Take me higher
Band of Gypsies - Take me higher

And none of them are the track I want :(

Anyone with any thoughts?

Cheers

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune ID

James.

Why don't you hook up a mic, sing it, record it to Mp3 and fire it to the
list :) I must admit, i've been tempted to do this on many occasions but
backed out after blushing at even the thought of it.

Sounds like a good idea for a website thought ;)
www.idahum.com
www.humatune.com
www.namethathum.com
www.oldskoolhums.com

Colin Dee.


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> oh but i do loove gusset gravy its baaad
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune ID

I've also got a "take me higher" tune 've always wanted to know what it
is... it comes in right at the end of a Jon Da Silva tape from about 1991
(maybe early 1992), but it's the next DJ coming in (much more hardcore than
Jon Da Silva!) wonder if its the same one.
One day I might manage to sort a clip out.
Ho hum.

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> Hi all,
>
> I've been after a tune for ages with the vocals:
>
> "Take me higher.. take me.. take me higher"
>
> It got rinsed at the techno club I used to go to as an underager in 92,
but
> I never found out who it was by.. crap description I know, but I was 16!
>
> Unfortunately there seems to be quite a few tunes with this title..
>
> Hysteria / Blast - Take me higher (I have this one)
> Enrage - Take me higher
> Band of Gypsies - Take me higher
>
> And none of them are the track I want :(
>
> Anyone with any thoughts?
>
> Cheers
>
> JAMES HARCOMBE
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) tune ID

We had a huge oldskool party here in Perth in 2001 where they opened up our
"Berlin Club" (most notorious old techno club) again after it had sat
disused for 9 years - and that "Take me Higher" song got played again.. 

If I had the presence of mind to go ask the DJ who it was by I'd be sorted
by now!! Goddamn it!! 

*sigh* at least my mate recorded the night on video.. I had my Quadrophonia
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Whaaaat!!! When in 2001 did they reopen Berlin for an Old Skool night?=0D
Man that would have been a wicked night. I mean, to go back to Berlin 10
years on and hear the tunes they played=0D
back then. I cant believe I missed that one!!=0D
=0D
Those were the days!! Dj's Ken Weyden, Miggy, Darren Briais spinning the
hottest tunes!!! =0D
CJ Boland, Prodigy, Sasha and a swag of other international DJ's and PA's
blowing us away with their performances.=0D
=0D
Maaan, someone build me a time machine already!!! =0D
=0D
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Subject: (oldschool) KFA heads help

Luna-C - Super Fugee

has this tune ever come out on vinyl? will it ever? quite the tune..
something seems like it's only on dubplate or something though.. any kfa
heads wanna clarify? i want a copy desperate steez :D

cheers,
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> Luna-C - Super Fugee
> 
> has this tune ever come out on vinyl? will it ever? quite the tune..
> something seems like it's only on dubplate or something though.. any kfa
> heads wanna clarify? i want a copy desperate steez :D


never pressed and never will be :o(((((

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presents=20

Sunday Skool Alldayer part 5

Sunday 6th July

Midday till 10pm

The Peacock

Silvertown way

Canning Town

London E16

Admission: FREE

Canning Town: BR/DLR/TUBE/BUSES

Turn right out of station, Peacock 2 minutes on the right.

-----------------------------

Resonance invites you to come down to join us for another all day=20

session at the now infamous Peacock, this very sociable event will=20

feature a varied mixture of Old Skool, Hardcore, Nu Skool Breakz,=20

Drum n Bass and Tech House inside while outside in the beer=20

garden with the help of the sun the emphasis will be on beer and=20

chat.=20



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DJs on the day will be:

12.00 Mike Heath (Teethout)

13.00 Colenal (Whoop Whoop)=20

14.00 Desert Rat (Centreforce)

15.00 Twista (Together as One)

16.00 Devious Dee (Best of British)

17.00 Scottie (Planet Hardcore)

18.00 Herman (United Dance)

19.00 Maxx Vinyl (Resonance)

20.00 Uplift (Ravenation)

21.00 Flashback (Riverdance)



10k sound, lights & laser, beer garden, classic tape stall, food &=20

drink, BBQ.



Map and directions on Location page of the website.=20

Info line: 07940 123 783

E-Mail Inquires: res1net@hotmail.com



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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool links request

Since fullrecycle and breakizm appear to have packed
up my oldskool links page is looking a bit bare :(

Anyone with a website that wants stuff linked up 
let me know.  I want proper oldskool sites rather
than shops.

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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool links request #2

my links page is

http://djrichard.basscutz.com/oldskool.htm

so if your not on there already ...let me know :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) KFA heads help

> Luna-C - Super Fugee
>
> has this tune ever come out on vinyl? will it ever? quite the tune..
> something seems like it's only on dubplate or something though.. any kfa
> heads wanna clarify? i want a copy desperate steez :D


Correct, its never been pressed on vinyl and never will....
Its now been laid to rest too, the Goodfellaz set on the KF site was its
last ever public play!

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oldskool links request #2

www.uphoriak.co.uk
www.breakbeathardcore.com
www.kniteforce.co.uk

innit

also fullrecycle no longer runs FYI

Dave


> my links page is
>
> http://djrichard.basscutz.com/oldskool.htm
>
> so if your not on there already ...let me know :)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) "yEt AnUvvA sUnDaY sKooOL AllDaYeR part 5"

> 21.00 Flashback (Riverdance)

Nice - Is Michael Flatley gonna make it down too with the rest of the
Riverdance crew for a bit of a jig?
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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool links request #2

my links page is

http://djrichard.basscutz.com/oldskool.htm

so if your not on there already ...let me know :)

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http://www.backtotheoldskool.co.uk/



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> www.uphoriak.co.uk
> www.breakbeathardcore.com
> www.kniteforce.co.uk
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> innit
>=20
> also fullrecycle no longer runs FYI
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> Dave
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> > my links page is
> >
> > http://djrichard.basscutz.com/oldskool.htm
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> > so if your not on there already ...let me know :)

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Laid to rest.

But who knows.....

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> > Luna-C - Super Fugee
> >
> > has this tune ever come out on vinyl? will it ever? quite the tune..
> > something seems like it's only on dubplate or something though.. any kfa
> > heads wanna clarify? i want a copy desperate steez :D
>
>
> Correct, its never been pressed on vinyl and never will....
> Its now been laid to rest too, the Goodfellaz set on the KF site was its
> last ever public play!
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Just been reaidng the stories and listeing to "Total Jonny" on the KF site -
that Luna C is a wag innit? Has anyone heard the Bad Company Jonny remix?


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On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, [iso-8859-1] DJ Richard wrote:
> Since fullrecycle and breakizm appear to have packed
> up my oldskool links page is looking a bit bare :(

Oi Richard,

Sorry for any confusion -- Breakizm's just temporarily down, but it will
be back by the end of the month at the same address.  Just finished doing
a cross-country move so I need to find the time to get it up again, and
hopefully better than ever.

Take care,
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> 
> never pressed and never will be :o(((((
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pfft, only took 3 hours to get delivered to the list grrr

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) KFA heads help

dude i got it like 2 minutes after i asked the question.. your mail must be
slow :P

but seriously, why won't it get released? that's the phattest track in the
few luna-c sets i've downloaded lately.


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> >
> > never pressed and never will be :o(((((
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>>i fink the moderator had to approve it first ;o)

LOL, cheeky, but not the case, he's at work :oP *runs riot*

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> dude i got it like 2 minutes after i asked the question.. your mail must
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> slow :P
wah, it was my email then :o( *kicks freeserve*

> but seriously, why won't it get released? that's the phattest track in the
> few luna-c sets i've downloaded lately.

I'm presuming sample clearance, and the fact Luna-C wants to keep his legs
in tact ;o)


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Just received a virus from dhowse@ntlworld.com, if you get an email with
an attachment titled, YOUR DETAILS.zip delete it, do not open.
 
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Subject: (oldschool) --Dave t's Oldskool Sale--


RRRRiiighhht then... first post in ages and its a sale-a-thon, all sorts in 
there

These are for sale please mail me private with offers and orders...

postage will be £2 prob but ill let you know exact  before any deal is done


Offers.........


Timelapse - Sued for a Sample - Sunshine Choir / Sued for a sample / Indian 
dream - Out of Romford -

Whine your Bottom + 2 others - Wishdockta - Kickin Records - Kick 29

Shaggy Riddems EP - Ruff Rider - Dance Mutha / You and Me + 2 others - 
Kickin 1992 - Kick 30

Justice and Mercy - Soothe my soul (orig + rmx) / Mayhem / Experience - 
Wjitehouse - WYHS 005


Prices listed............


Free Spirit  -  Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical Illusion 
- Incite Records 1993 - £10

Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 - 1992 - 
£13

DJ Rap and Aston - Vertigo - Suburban Base 23 - 1993 - £10

Shut up and Dance ft Pete Bouncer - Raving im Raving - SUAD recs 30 - 1992 - 
£15

T.H.C (Slipmatt and Lime) - Sunshine / Dark Zone / Love my Dub - Awesome 
Recs - £10

DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Just wanna hold you tight / master dub / 
heavy duty - Slammin Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR001 - £10

DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Dont Need Your Love / In Effect - Slammin 
Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR003 - £10

DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Ruffer / Gotta Release - RAR 006 Slammin 
Vinyl - Silver Label
RAR006 Orig press - £10

DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Fuckin Hardcore / In Effect remix and Dark 
Dub - Slammin Vinyl - Red Label
RAR005 Orig press - £10

Energizer 4 - Limted DJ Promo Only - £13

Djs Unite Vol 2 - Impact Recs - IMP002 - £10

DJs Unite Vol 3 - Impact Recs - IMP006 - £10

Static Substance - Ghetto people / follow my beat - Impact Recs IMP 008 - 
£10

DJ Seduction - Come On / Hardcore Heaven (The reincarnation) - Ffrreedom 
TABX 111 - £10

Dune - Too Much - Advanced - Advanced 001 (Ray Keith Production) - 1992 - £5

Force Mass Motion EP - Reach up / Take me Higher - Rabbit City 004 - £8

Bass Contruction EP pt 2 - Get on the Move / Make me feel / Too sexy to 
dance - Elicit Recs 1992 - £5

Rave Come Soon EP - I want to feel the music / Ho chanel +2 others - Kikman 
Music - KIK001 - £6

Reckless - Feel the Vibe / Dub Kaos / Shake Ya Body - Pulse 8 Recs 1992 - £5

Dj Crystl + Slipmaster J - Drop XTC / Frantic Situation - Lucky Spin Recs 
004 dj promo - £8

Joint Project (Jaz E and Jaz J) - Spiritual Guidance / Dark Rider - Soapbar 
Recs 003 - £7

SMD #2 - Green Label - Original Press - £10

C - Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (2 Remixes) - Big City Recs 006 - 1993 - £8

China White - High and Dry - Vicious Vinyl - £13

X-Static EP - Ready to Go / Murderous Style / My Inspiration - Production 
House PNT040 - £6

Anti Chaos - Life can Begin / Crazy Jungle - Production House - 1993 - 
PNT049 - £7

The House Crew - We are Hardcore remix / Maniac remix - Production House 
035R - £13

Sonz of a loop da Loop era - Pease and Lovism / Freedonism - Sub Base 14 - 
£12

Sonz of a loop da loop era - Pease + Lovism 4 Hero rmx + wierd breakism mix 
- Sub Base 1992 14R - £12

Son'z of a loop da loop era - Further Out (far out rmx) / Let ur mind b free 
- Sub Base 008R- 1991 - £10

Timebase (Krome and Time) - Unity / Fireball - Suburban Base repress - SBP 
100 - £5

Q Bass - Deepa (NRG remix / Funky Hardcore (DJ Hype remix) - Suburban Base 
1993 - Sub Base 21R - £7

Acen - Trip to the Moon part 1  / Obsessed- Production House 1992 - PNT 042  
- £18

Aurora - Sunshine / Voice of Budda - Spectral Bass / 3 - 6 - 9 - Adrenalin 
1992 - £12

Citadel of Kaos pt 1 - The Living Dream - Shut up and listen + 3 others - 
Boombastic Plastic 001 - £13

Citadel of Kaos pt 5 - Warped / Freedom / Earthquake / Drums of Justice - 
Boombastic Platic 1993 - £6

Essense of Aura - Destiny EP - Destiny / Floodlite / Spiral / Madder than 
Adam - EOA 001 - £10

The Men from del Bosca - El Bland e / Fistfull of el pesos + 2 others - 
Giant Trax 001 - £10

Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5

Sudden Def - Let it hit dem / give it to me / fall like rain - Reinforced - 
RIVET 1219 - £6

Open Skies - Ozone Nights / Deep in your Eyes + 2 others - Reinforced - 
RIVET 1231 - £7

Manix - Try to Love Me / Hardcore Junglism / Rainbow People - Reinfoced - 
1221 - £8

Istotonik EP - Everywhere i go (2 mixes) / Lets get down / rush - Ffreedom - 
TABX 108 - £10

Isotonik - Different Strokes - Original and grooverider remix + Hasta la 
vista - Ffreedom - TABX 101 - £10

Naughty Naughty Vol 2 (Rich in Paradise sample) - £5

Harmony and Extreme - Love in my heart / Journey through time - Luckyspin 
010 - £6

Sy Kick - The Knowledge EP - Promo - Quick 4 - Hamster Recs - £5

E Kude - Never Let Go / Upside + 2 others - Boogie Times Tribe 1992 - 009 - 
£6

SMF - Guillotine ray keith rmx / How many ways - Rugged Vinyl 10 - £7

Earl Grey - Earls Groove / Oblivion Express - Rugged Vinyl 16 - 1996 - £5

Ultra Violet - Kites / Fly - Big Life 1990 - £10

Shades of Rhythm - Sweet Revival - Keep it comin -SOR recs - (7") - £3

Usura - Open your Mind - Deconstruction - 1992 - £4

Luxury II - You and Me / The silencer - Spare Beat Records 1992 - SBR003 - 
£5

The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds remixes - Double 12" - Island recs - £5

Guru Josh - Infinity - Deconstruction - £5

Love Deacde - I Know - New Atlantic recs (7"!) - £5

cheeeeeeeeers

dave t

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> I'm presuming sample clearance, and the fact Luna-C wants to keep his legs
> in tact ;o)

Chris knows Hype from his Sub-base days though doesn't he? Couldn't he have
a quiet word...



>But who knows.....

Just what do you mean by that then Steve...?

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> Just what do you mean by that then Steve...?

Nothing..... *Ahem*

/me tries to hide....




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oldskool links request #2

cheers for the link mate. 'll get more added to my site very soon.


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> my links page is
>
> http://djrichard.basscutz.com/oldskool.htm
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> so if your not on there already ...let me know :)
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i keep getting virus mails for big@bigboss.com like around 150 a day. I wish
he'd just bugger off!!!



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> Just received a virus from dhowse@ntlworld.com, if you get an email with
> an attachment titled, YOUR DETAILS.zip delete it, do not open.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Right...at long last / ID hero's


the file is ok for me as im on fast broadband - i dont know what it is
but I like the sound of it, so if anyone can shed some light on it it would
be of help to moi as well!!


Eddie more are winging there way to you...no one has got the first that one 
yet....infact the only deffo ID's I have had so far for any have been from 
ID Hero Destiny who sussed Reinforcers Vol 1 and Anthema Remix. so thats 68 
to go....more volunteers needed although if dest or eddie upload for me you 
can all have a listen.

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Subject: (oldschool) In the post...

Well - more like, passed into the hand.

Jonny L - Hurt You So (The Full Mix) - YoYo / Tuchwood.

Thank you muchly James H :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vague Tune ID...

I think it's a really easy one, and a dozen people have probably already
responded, but I know it, I think I have it, just can't think what it is
off the top of my head.


> probably 1991, some screechy rave noises, prototype-jungle beat bouncy
> b-line with the sample "drop just like a bulldog".
> It's a massive tune... it's just gone from my head at the mo.
> Sorry about the terrible description, but hopefully someone can get it from
> the sample.
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did you try that ftp? it's not mine, belongs to a friend...but if you
upload them all there, then let me know, I can grab the lot.


> 
> the file is ok for me as im on fast broadband - i dont know what it is
> but I like the sound of it, so if anyone can shed some light on it it would
> be of help to moi as well!!
> 
> 
> Eddie more are winging there way to you...no one has got the first that one 
> yet....infact the only deffo ID's I have had so far for any have been from 
> ID Hero Destiny who sussed Reinforcers Vol 1 and Anthema Remix. so thats 68 
> to go....more volunteers needed although if dest or eddie upload for me you 
> can all have a listen.
> 
> cheers
> 
> andrew
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vague Tune ID...

"Drop this like a boulder" maybe?

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> I think it's a really easy one, and a dozen people have probably already
> responded, but I know it, I think I have it, just can't think what it is
> off the top of my head.
>
>
> > probably 1991, some screechy rave noises, prototype-jungle beat bouncy
> > b-line with the sample "drop just like a bulldog".
> > It's a massive tune... it's just gone from my head at the mo.
> > Sorry about the terrible description, but hopefully someone can get it
from
> > the sample.
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how is it done as the Live 365 doesnt support video?


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it's done independently by each show, if they have a webcam and their own
webspace then it's done like that
Just need some software that uploads the image for you automatically and
bobs yer transexual aunty

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) --Dave t's Oldskool Sale--

hiya
do u still have this? :)
Dj Crystl + Slipmaster J - Drop XTC / Frantic Situation - Lucky Spin Recs
004 dj promo - £8

cheers
felix

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>
> RRRRiiighhht then... first post in ages and its a sale-a-thon, all sorts
in
> there
>
> These are for sale please mail me private with offers and orders...
>
> postage will be £2 prob but ill let you know exact  before any deal is
done
>
>
> Offers.........
>
>
> Timelapse - Sued for a Sample - Sunshine Choir / Sued for a sample /
Indian
> dream - Out of Romford -
>
> Whine your Bottom + 2 others - Wishdockta - Kickin Records - Kick 29
>
> Shaggy Riddems EP - Ruff Rider - Dance Mutha / You and Me + 2 others -
> Kickin 1992 - Kick 30
>
> Justice and Mercy - Soothe my soul (orig + rmx) / Mayhem / Experience -
> Wjitehouse - WYHS 005
>
>
> Prices listed............
>
>
> Free Spirit  -  Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical
Illusion
> - Incite Records 1993 - £10
>
> Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 - 1992 -
> £13
>
> DJ Rap and Aston - Vertigo - Suburban Base 23 - 1993 - £10
>
> Shut up and Dance ft Pete Bouncer - Raving im Raving - SUAD recs 30 -
1992 -
> £15
>
> T.H.C (Slipmatt and Lime) - Sunshine / Dark Zone / Love my Dub - Awesome
> Recs - £10
>
> DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Just wanna hold you tight / master dub /
> heavy duty - Slammin Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR001 - £10
>
> DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Dont Need Your Love / In Effect - Slammin
> Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR003 - £10
>
> DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Ruffer / Gotta Release - RAR 006 Slammin
> Vinyl - Silver Label
> RAR006 Orig press - £10
>
> DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Fuckin Hardcore / In Effect remix and Dark
> Dub - Slammin Vinyl - Red Label
> RAR005 Orig press - £10
>
> Energizer 4 - Limted DJ Promo Only - £13
>
> Djs Unite Vol 2 - Impact Recs - IMP002 - £10
>
> DJs Unite Vol 3 - Impact Recs - IMP006 - £10
>
> Static Substance - Ghetto people / follow my beat - Impact Recs IMP 008 -
> £10
>
> DJ Seduction - Come On / Hardcore Heaven (The reincarnation) - Ffrreedom
> TABX 111 - £10
>
> Dune - Too Much - Advanced - Advanced 001 (Ray Keith Production) - 1992 -
£5
>
> Force Mass Motion EP - Reach up / Take me Higher - Rabbit City 004 - £8
>
> Bass Contruction EP pt 2 - Get on the Move / Make me feel / Too sexy to
> dance - Elicit Recs 1992 - £5
>
> Rave Come Soon EP - I want to feel the music / Ho chanel +2 others -
Kikman
> Music - KIK001 - £6
>
> Reckless - Feel the Vibe / Dub Kaos / Shake Ya Body - Pulse 8 Recs 1992 -
£5
>
> Dj Crystl + Slipmaster J - Drop XTC / Frantic Situation - Lucky Spin Recs
> 004 dj promo - £8
>
> Joint Project (Jaz E and Jaz J) - Spiritual Guidance / Dark Rider -
Soapbar
> Recs 003 - £7
>
> SMD #2 - Green Label - Original Press - £10
>
> C - Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (2 Remixes) - Big City Recs 006 - 1993 - £8
>
> China White - High and Dry - Vicious Vinyl - £13
>
> X-Static EP - Ready to Go / Murderous Style / My Inspiration - Production
> House PNT040 - £6
>
> Anti Chaos - Life can Begin / Crazy Jungle - Production House - 1993 -
> PNT049 - £7
>
> The House Crew - We are Hardcore remix / Maniac remix - Production House
> 035R - £13
>
> Sonz of a loop da Loop era - Pease and Lovism / Freedonism - Sub Base 14 -
> £12
>
> Sonz of a loop da loop era - Pease + Lovism 4 Hero rmx + wierd breakism
mix
> - Sub Base 1992 14R - £12
>
> Son'z of a loop da loop era - Further Out (far out rmx) / Let ur mind b
free
> - Sub Base 008R- 1991 - £10
>
> Timebase (Krome and Time) - Unity / Fireball - Suburban Base repress - SBP
> 100 - £5
>
> Q Bass - Deepa (NRG remix / Funky Hardcore (DJ Hype remix) - Suburban Base
> 1993 - Sub Base 21R - £7
>
> Acen - Trip to the Moon part 1  / Obsessed- Production House 1992 - PNT
042
> - £18
>
> Aurora - Sunshine / Voice of Budda - Spectral Bass / 3 - 6 - 9 - Adrenalin
> 1992 - £12
>
> Citadel of Kaos pt 1 - The Living Dream - Shut up and listen + 3 others -
> Boombastic Plastic 001 - £13
>
> Citadel of Kaos pt 5 - Warped / Freedom / Earthquake / Drums of Justice -
> Boombastic Platic 1993 - £6
>
> Essense of Aura - Destiny EP - Destiny / Floodlite / Spiral / Madder than
> Adam - EOA 001 - £10
>
> The Men from del Bosca - El Bland e / Fistfull of el pesos + 2 others -
> Giant Trax 001 - £10
>
> Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
>
> Sudden Def - Let it hit dem / give it to me / fall like rain -
Reinforced -
> RIVET 1219 - £6
>
> Open Skies - Ozone Nights / Deep in your Eyes + 2 others - Reinforced -
> RIVET 1231 - £7
>
> Manix - Try to Love Me / Hardcore Junglism / Rainbow People - Reinfoced -
> 1221 - £8
>
> Istotonik EP - Everywhere i go (2 mixes) / Lets get down / rush -
Ffreedom -
> TABX 108 - £10
>
> Isotonik - Different Strokes - Original and grooverider remix + Hasta la
> vista - Ffreedom - TABX 101 - £10
>
> Naughty Naughty Vol 2 (Rich in Paradise sample) - £5
>
> Harmony and Extreme - Love in my heart / Journey through time - Luckyspin
> 010 - £6
>
> Sy Kick - The Knowledge EP - Promo - Quick 4 - Hamster Recs - £5
>
> E Kude - Never Let Go / Upside + 2 others - Boogie Times Tribe 1992 -
009 -
> £6
>
> SMF - Guillotine ray keith rmx / How many ways - Rugged Vinyl 10 - £7
>
> Earl Grey - Earls Groove / Oblivion Express - Rugged Vinyl 16 - 1996 - £5
>
> Ultra Violet - Kites / Fly - Big Life 1990 - £10
>
> Shades of Rhythm - Sweet Revival - Keep it comin -SOR recs - (7") - £3
>
> Usura - Open your Mind - Deconstruction - 1992 - £4
>
> Luxury II - You and Me / The silencer - Spare Beat Records 1992 - SBR003 -
> £5
>
> The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds remixes - Double 12" - Island recs - £5
>
> Guru Josh - Infinity - Deconstruction - £5
>
> Love Deacde - I Know - New Atlantic recs (7"!) - £5
>
> cheeeeeeeeers
>
> dave t
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Subject: (oldschool) -whats gone from the dave t sale-



These have gone (or at least been reserved) from the list so far. thought id 
mention whats gone coz people are still asking for drop xtc and men from 
bosca

Naught Naughty Vol 2
Drop XTC
Essence of Aura
Men from del Bosca
Citadel of Kaos 5
Vertigo
Rugged Vinyl 10
Impact recs 2
Energizer 4

the list is below.....
cheeeeers


> > RRRRiiighhht then... first post in ages and its a sale-a-thon, all sorts
>in
> > there
> >
> > These are for sale please mail me private with offers and orders...
> >
> > postage will be £2 prob but ill let you know exact  before any deal is
>done
> >
> >
> > Offers.........
> >
> >
> > Timelapse - Sued for a Sample - Sunshine Choir / Sued for a sample /
>Indian
> > dream - Out of Romford -
> >
> > Whine your Bottom + 2 others - Wishdockta - Kickin Records - Kick 29
> >
> > Shaggy Riddems EP - Ruff Rider - Dance Mutha / You and Me + 2 others -
> > Kickin 1992 - Kick 30
> >
> > Justice and Mercy - Soothe my soul (orig + rmx) / Mayhem / Experience -
> > Wjitehouse - WYHS 005
> >
> >
> > Prices listed............
> >
> >
> > Free Spirit  -  Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical
>Illusion
> > - Incite Records 1993 - £10
> >
> > Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 - 1992 
>-
> > £13
> >
> > DJ Rap and Aston - Vertigo - Suburban Base 23 - 1993 - £10
> >
> > Shut up and Dance ft Pete Bouncer - Raving im Raving - SUAD recs 30 -
>1992 -
> > £15
> >
> > T.H.C (Slipmatt and Lime) - Sunshine / Dark Zone / Love my Dub - Awesome
> > Recs - £10
> >
> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Just wanna hold you tight / master dub /
> > heavy duty - Slammin Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR001 - £10
> >
> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Dont Need Your Love / In Effect - 
>Slammin
> > Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR003 - £10
> >
> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Ruffer / Gotta Release - RAR 006 Slammin
> > Vinyl - Silver Label
> > RAR006 Orig press - £10
> >
> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Fuckin Hardcore / In Effect remix and 
>Dark
> > Dub - Slammin Vinyl - Red Label
> > RAR005 Orig press - £10
> >
> > Energizer 4 - Limted DJ Promo Only - £13
> >
> > Djs Unite Vol 2 - Impact Recs - IMP002 - £10
> >
> > DJs Unite Vol 3 - Impact Recs - IMP006 - £10
> >
> > Static Substance - Ghetto people / follow my beat - Impact Recs IMP 008 
>-
> > £10
> >
> > DJ Seduction - Come On / Hardcore Heaven (The reincarnation) - Ffrreedom
> > TABX 111 - £10
> >
> > Dune - Too Much - Advanced - Advanced 001 (Ray Keith Production) - 1992 
>-
>£5
> >
> > Force Mass Motion EP - Reach up / Take me Higher - Rabbit City 004 - £8
> >
> > Bass Contruction EP pt 2 - Get on the Move / Make me feel / Too sexy to
> > dance - Elicit Recs 1992 - £5
> >
> > Rave Come Soon EP - I want to feel the music / Ho chanel +2 others -
>Kikman
> > Music - KIK001 - £6
> >
> > Reckless - Feel the Vibe / Dub Kaos / Shake Ya Body - Pulse 8 Recs 1992 
>-
>£5
> >
> > Dj Crystl + Slipmaster J - Drop XTC / Frantic Situation - Lucky Spin 
>Recs
> > 004 dj promo - £8
> >
> > Joint Project (Jaz E and Jaz J) - Spiritual Guidance / Dark Rider -
>Soapbar
> > Recs 003 - £7
> >
> > SMD #2 - Green Label - Original Press - £10
> >
> > C - Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (2 Remixes) - Big City Recs 006 - 1993 - £8
> >
> > China White - High and Dry - Vicious Vinyl - £13
> >
> > X-Static EP - Ready to Go / Murderous Style / My Inspiration - 
>Production
> > House PNT040 - £6
> >
> > Anti Chaos - Life can Begin / Crazy Jungle - Production House - 1993 -
> > PNT049 - £7
> >
> > The House Crew - We are Hardcore remix / Maniac remix - Production House
> > 035R - £13
> >
> > Sonz of a loop da Loop era - Pease and Lovism / Freedonism - Sub Base 14 
>-
> > £12
> >
> > Sonz of a loop da loop era - Pease + Lovism 4 Hero rmx + wierd breakism
>mix
> > - Sub Base 1992 14R - £12
> >
> > Son'z of a loop da loop era - Further Out (far out rmx) / Let ur mind b
>free
> > - Sub Base 008R- 1991 - £10
> >
> > Timebase (Krome and Time) - Unity / Fireball - Suburban Base repress - 
>SBP
> > 100 - £5
> >
> > Q Bass - Deepa (NRG remix / Funky Hardcore (DJ Hype remix) - Suburban 
>Base
> > 1993 - Sub Base 21R - £7
> >
> > Acen - Trip to the Moon part 1  / Obsessed- Production House 1992 - PNT
>042
> > - £18
> >
> > Aurora - Sunshine / Voice of Budda - Spectral Bass / 3 - 6 - 9 - 
>Adrenalin
> > 1992 - £12
> >
> > Citadel of Kaos pt 1 - The Living Dream - Shut up and listen + 3 others 
>-
> > Boombastic Plastic 001 - £13
> >
> > Citadel of Kaos pt 5 - Warped / Freedom / Earthquake / Drums of Justice 
>-
> > Boombastic Platic 1993 - £6
> >
> > Essense of Aura - Destiny EP - Destiny / Floodlite / Spiral / Madder 
>than
> > Adam - EOA 001 - £10
> >
> > The Men from del Bosca - El Bland e / Fistfull of el pesos + 2 others -
> > Giant Trax 001 - £10
> >
> > Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
> >
> > Sudden Def - Let it hit dem / give it to me / fall like rain -
>Reinforced -
> > RIVET 1219 - £6
> >
> > Open Skies - Ozone Nights / Deep in your Eyes + 2 others - Reinforced -
> > RIVET 1231 - £7
> >
> > Manix - Try to Love Me / Hardcore Junglism / Rainbow People - Reinfoced 
>-
> > 1221 - £8
> >
> > Istotonik EP - Everywhere i go (2 mixes) / Lets get down / rush -
>Ffreedom -
> > TABX 108 - £10
> >
> > Isotonik - Different Strokes - Original and grooverider remix + Hasta la
> > vista - Ffreedom - TABX 101 - £10
> >
> > Naughty Naughty Vol 2 (Rich in Paradise sample) - £5
> >
> > Harmony and Extreme - Love in my heart / Journey through time - 
>Luckyspin
> > 010 - £6
> >
> > Sy Kick - The Knowledge EP - Promo - Quick 4 - Hamster Recs - £5
> >
> > E Kude - Never Let Go / Upside + 2 others - Boogie Times Tribe 1992 -
>009 -
> > £6
> >
> > SMF - Guillotine ray keith rmx / How many ways - Rugged Vinyl 10 - £7
> >
> > Earl Grey - Earls Groove / Oblivion Express - Rugged Vinyl 16 - 1996 - 
>£5
> >
> > Ultra Violet - Kites / Fly - Big Life 1990 - £10
> >
> > Shades of Rhythm - Sweet Revival - Keep it comin -SOR recs - (7") - £3
> >
> > Usura - Open your Mind - Deconstruction - 1992 - £4
> >
> > Luxury II - You and Me / The silencer - Spare Beat Records 1992 - SBR003 
>-
> > £5
> >
> > The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds remixes - Double 12" - Island recs - £5
> >
> > Guru Josh - Infinity - Deconstruction - £5
> >
> > Love Deacde - I Know - New Atlantic recs (7"!) - £5
> >
> > cheeeeeeeeers
> >
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cant believe this aint gone! Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5

people! this is a tune! i have a copy, or id defo snap it up!!


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>From: "dave t" <dave_t9@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: (oldschool) -whats gone from the dave t sale-
>Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 11:37:42 +0000
>
>
>
>These have gone (or at least been reserved) from the list so far. thought 
>id mention whats gone coz people are still asking for drop xtc and men from 
>bosca
>
>Naught Naughty Vol 2
>Drop XTC
>Essence of Aura
>Men from del Bosca
>Citadel of Kaos 5
>Vertigo
>Rugged Vinyl 10
>Impact recs 2
>Energizer 4
>
>the list is below.....
>cheeeeers
>
>
>> > RRRRiiighhht then... first post in ages and its a sale-a-thon, all 
>>sorts
>>in
>> > there
>> >
>> > These are for sale please mail me private with offers and orders...
>> >
>> > postage will be £2 prob but ill let you know exact  before any deal is
>>done
>> >
>> >
>> > Offers.........
>> >
>> >
>> > Timelapse - Sued for a Sample - Sunshine Choir / Sued for a sample /
>>Indian
>> > dream - Out of Romford -
>> >
>> > Whine your Bottom + 2 others - Wishdockta - Kickin Records - Kick 29
>> >
>> > Shaggy Riddems EP - Ruff Rider - Dance Mutha / You and Me + 2 others -
>> > Kickin 1992 - Kick 30
>> >
>> > Justice and Mercy - Soothe my soul (orig + rmx) / Mayhem / Experience -
>> > Wjitehouse - WYHS 005
>> >
>> >
>> > Prices listed............
>> >
>> >
>> > Free Spirit  -  Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical
>>Illusion
>> > - Incite Records 1993 - £10
>> >
>> > Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 - 
>>1992 -
>> > £13
>> >
>> > DJ Rap and Aston - Vertigo - Suburban Base 23 - 1993 - £10
>> >
>> > Shut up and Dance ft Pete Bouncer - Raving im Raving - SUAD recs 30 -
>>1992 -
>> > £15
>> >
>> > T.H.C (Slipmatt and Lime) - Sunshine / Dark Zone / Love my Dub - 
>>Awesome
>> > Recs - £10
>> >
>> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Just wanna hold you tight / master dub 
>>/
>> > heavy duty - Slammin Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR001 - £10
>> >
>> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Dont Need Your Love / In Effect - 
>>Slammin
>> > Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR003 - £10
>> >
>> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Ruffer / Gotta Release - RAR 006 
>>Slammin
>> > Vinyl - Silver Label
>> > RAR006 Orig press - £10
>> >
>> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Fuckin Hardcore / In Effect remix and 
>>Dark
>> > Dub - Slammin Vinyl - Red Label
>> > RAR005 Orig press - £10
>> >
>> > Energizer 4 - Limted DJ Promo Only - £13
>> >
>> > Djs Unite Vol 2 - Impact Recs - IMP002 - £10
>> >
>> > DJs Unite Vol 3 - Impact Recs - IMP006 - £10
>> >
>> > Static Substance - Ghetto people / follow my beat - Impact Recs IMP 008 
>>-
>> > £10
>> >
>> > DJ Seduction - Come On / Hardcore Heaven (The reincarnation) - 
>>Ffrreedom
>> > TABX 111 - £10
>> >
>> > Dune - Too Much - Advanced - Advanced 001 (Ray Keith Production) - 1992 
>>-
>>£5
>> >
>> > Force Mass Motion EP - Reach up / Take me Higher - Rabbit City 004 - £8
>> >
>> > Bass Contruction EP pt 2 - Get on the Move / Make me feel / Too sexy to
>> > dance - Elicit Recs 1992 - £5
>> >
>> > Rave Come Soon EP - I want to feel the music / Ho chanel +2 others -
>>Kikman
>> > Music - KIK001 - £6
>> >
>> > Reckless - Feel the Vibe / Dub Kaos / Shake Ya Body - Pulse 8 Recs 1992 
>>-
>>£5
>> >
>> > Dj Crystl + Slipmaster J - Drop XTC / Frantic Situation - Lucky Spin 
>>Recs
>> > 004 dj promo - £8
>> >
>> > Joint Project (Jaz E and Jaz J) - Spiritual Guidance / Dark Rider -
>>Soapbar
>> > Recs 003 - £7
>> >
>> > SMD #2 - Green Label - Original Press - £10
>> >
>> > C - Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (2 Remixes) - Big City Recs 006 - 1993 - £8
>> >
>> > China White - High and Dry - Vicious Vinyl - £13
>> >
>> > X-Static EP - Ready to Go / Murderous Style / My Inspiration - 
>>Production
>> > House PNT040 - £6
>> >
>> > Anti Chaos - Life can Begin / Crazy Jungle - Production House - 1993 -
>> > PNT049 - £7
>> >
>> > The House Crew - We are Hardcore remix / Maniac remix - Production 
>>House
>> > 035R - £13
>> >
>> > Sonz of a loop da Loop era - Pease and Lovism / Freedonism - Sub Base 
>>14 -
>> > £12
>> >
>> > Sonz of a loop da loop era - Pease + Lovism 4 Hero rmx + wierd breakism
>>mix
>> > - Sub Base 1992 14R - £12
>> >
>> > Son'z of a loop da loop era - Further Out (far out rmx) / Let ur mind b
>>free
>> > - Sub Base 008R- 1991 - £10
>> >
>> > Timebase (Krome and Time) - Unity / Fireball - Suburban Base repress - 
>>SBP
>> > 100 - £5
>> >
>> > Q Bass - Deepa (NRG remix / Funky Hardcore (DJ Hype remix) - Suburban 
>>Base
>> > 1993 - Sub Base 21R - £7
>> >
>> > Acen - Trip to the Moon part 1  / Obsessed- Production House 1992 - PNT
>>042
>> > - £18
>> >
>> > Aurora - Sunshine / Voice of Budda - Spectral Bass / 3 - 6 - 9 - 
>>Adrenalin
>> > 1992 - £12
>> >
>> > Citadel of Kaos pt 1 - The Living Dream - Shut up and listen + 3 others 
>>-
>> > Boombastic Plastic 001 - £13
>> >
>> > Citadel of Kaos pt 5 - Warped / Freedom / Earthquake / Drums of Justice 
>>-
>> > Boombastic Platic 1993 - £6
>> >
>> > Essense of Aura - Destiny EP - Destiny / Floodlite / Spiral / Madder 
>>than
>> > Adam - EOA 001 - £10
>> >
>> > The Men from del Bosca - El Bland e / Fistfull of el pesos + 2 others -
>> > Giant Trax 001 - £10
>> >
>> > Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
>> >
>> > Sudden Def - Let it hit dem / give it to me / fall like rain -
>>Reinforced -
>> > RIVET 1219 - £6
>> >
>> > Open Skies - Ozone Nights / Deep in your Eyes + 2 others - Reinforced -
>> > RIVET 1231 - £7
>> >
>> > Manix - Try to Love Me / Hardcore Junglism / Rainbow People - Reinfoced 
>>-
>> > 1221 - £8
>> >
>> > Istotonik EP - Everywhere i go (2 mixes) / Lets get down / rush -
>>Ffreedom -
>> > TABX 108 - £10
>> >
>> > Isotonik - Different Strokes - Original and grooverider remix + Hasta 
>>la
>> > vista - Ffreedom - TABX 101 - £10
>> >
>> > Naughty Naughty Vol 2 (Rich in Paradise sample) - £5
>> >
>> > Harmony and Extreme - Love in my heart / Journey through time - 
>>Luckyspin
>> > 010 - £6
>> >
>> > Sy Kick - The Knowledge EP - Promo - Quick 4 - Hamster Recs - £5
>> >
>> > E Kude - Never Let Go / Upside + 2 others - Boogie Times Tribe 1992 -
>>009 -
>> > £6
>> >
>> > SMF - Guillotine ray keith rmx / How many ways - Rugged Vinyl 10 - £7
>> >
>> > Earl Grey - Earls Groove / Oblivion Express - Rugged Vinyl 16 - 1996 - 
>>£5
>> >
>> > Ultra Violet - Kites / Fly - Big Life 1990 - £10
>> >
>> > Shades of Rhythm - Sweet Revival - Keep it comin -SOR recs - (7") - £3
>> >
>> > Usura - Open your Mind - Deconstruction - 1992 - £4
>> >
>> > Luxury II - You and Me / The silencer - Spare Beat Records 1992 - 
>>SBR003 -
>> > £5
>> >
>> > The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds remixes - Double 12" - Island recs - £5
>> >
>> > Guru Josh - Infinity - Deconstruction - £5
>> >
>> > Love Deacde - I Know - New Atlantic recs (7"!) - £5
>> >
>> > cheeeeeeeeers
>> >
>> > dave t
>> >
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> cant believe this aint gone! Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
>
> people! this is a tune! i have a copy, or id defo snap it up!!

I think most people who know what it is have already got it.
I know I have =)

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> > cant believe this aint gone! Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
> >
> > people! this is a tune! i have a copy, or id defo snap it up!!
>
> I think most people who know what it is have already got it.
> I know I have =)
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> Martyn (DJ Destiny)

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> > > cant believe this aint gone! Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
> > >
> > > people! this is a tune! i have a copy, or id defo snap it up!!
> >
> > I think most people who know what it is have already got it.
> > I know I have =)
> >
> > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>
> yeah me 2 ;o)
>
>
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anybody been to one of the seduction weekenders
if so what are like, I notice raindance do a room.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) -whats gone from the dave t sale-

It's the one with the same piano as the cat's whiskas ep innit??


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>
> cant believe this aint gone! Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
>
> people! this is a tune! i have a copy, or id defo snap it up!!
>
>
> Cheers, Rob
> __________________________________________
> I WILL BE THE ONE WHO KEEPS YOUR SANITY LOCKED IN DARKNESS
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "dave t" <dave_t9@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: (oldschool) -whats gone from the dave t sale-
> >Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 11:37:42 +0000
> >
> >
> >
> >These have gone (or at least been reserved) from the list so far. thought
> >id mention whats gone coz people are still asking for drop xtc and men
from
> >bosca
> >
> >Naught Naughty Vol 2
> >Drop XTC
> >Essence of Aura
> >Men from del Bosca
> >Citadel of Kaos 5
> >Vertigo
> >Rugged Vinyl 10
> >Impact recs 2
> >Energizer 4
> >
> >the list is below.....
> >cheeeeers
> >
> >
> >> > RRRRiiighhht then... first post in ages and its a sale-a-thon, all
> >>sorts
> >>in
> >> > there
> >> >
> >> > These are for sale please mail me private with offers and orders...
> >> >
> >> > postage will be £2 prob but ill let you know exact  before any deal
is
> >>done
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Offers.........
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Timelapse - Sued for a Sample - Sunshine Choir / Sued for a sample /
> >>Indian
> >> > dream - Out of Romford -
> >> >
> >> > Whine your Bottom + 2 others - Wishdockta - Kickin Records - Kick 29
> >> >
> >> > Shaggy Riddems EP - Ruff Rider - Dance Mutha / You and Me + 2
others -
> >> > Kickin 1992 - Kick 30
> >> >
> >> > Justice and Mercy - Soothe my soul (orig + rmx) / Mayhem /
Experience -
> >> > Wjitehouse - WYHS 005
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Prices listed............
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Free Spirit  -  Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical
> >>Illusion
> >> > - Incite Records 1993 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 -
> >>1992 -
> >> > £13
> >> >
> >> > DJ Rap and Aston - Vertigo - Suburban Base 23 - 1993 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Shut up and Dance ft Pete Bouncer - Raving im Raving - SUAD recs 30 -
> >>1992 -
> >> > £15
> >> >
> >> > T.H.C (Slipmatt and Lime) - Sunshine / Dark Zone / Love my Dub -
> >>Awesome
> >> > Recs - £10
> >> >
> >> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Just wanna hold you tight / master
dub
> >>/
> >> > heavy duty - Slammin Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR001 - £10
> >> >
> >> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Dont Need Your Love / In Effect -
> >>Slammin
> >> > Vinyl - Yellow Label RAR003 - £10
> >> >
> >> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Ruffer / Gotta Release - RAR 006
> >>Slammin
> >> > Vinyl - Silver Label
> >> > RAR006 Orig press - £10
> >> >
> >> > DJ Red Alert and Mike Slammer - Fuckin Hardcore / In Effect remix and
> >>Dark
> >> > Dub - Slammin Vinyl - Red Label
> >> > RAR005 Orig press - £10
> >> >
> >> > Energizer 4 - Limted DJ Promo Only - £13
> >> >
> >> > Djs Unite Vol 2 - Impact Recs - IMP002 - £10
> >> >
> >> > DJs Unite Vol 3 - Impact Recs - IMP006 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Static Substance - Ghetto people / follow my beat - Impact Recs IMP
008
> >>-
> >> > £10
> >> >
> >> > DJ Seduction - Come On / Hardcore Heaven (The reincarnation) -
> >>Ffrreedom
> >> > TABX 111 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Dune - Too Much - Advanced - Advanced 001 (Ray Keith Production) -
1992
> >>-
> >>£5
> >> >
> >> > Force Mass Motion EP - Reach up / Take me Higher - Rabbit City 004 -
£8
> >> >
> >> > Bass Contruction EP pt 2 - Get on the Move / Make me feel / Too sexy
to
> >> > dance - Elicit Recs 1992 - £5
> >> >
> >> > Rave Come Soon EP - I want to feel the music / Ho chanel +2 others -
> >>Kikman
> >> > Music - KIK001 - £6
> >> >
> >> > Reckless - Feel the Vibe / Dub Kaos / Shake Ya Body - Pulse 8 Recs
1992
> >>-
> >>£5
> >> >
> >> > Dj Crystl + Slipmaster J - Drop XTC / Frantic Situation - Lucky Spin
> >>Recs
> >> > 004 dj promo - £8
> >> >
> >> > Joint Project (Jaz E and Jaz J) - Spiritual Guidance / Dark Rider -
> >>Soapbar
> >> > Recs 003 - £7
> >> >
> >> > SMD #2 - Green Label - Original Press - £10
> >> >
> >> > C - Biz - Crowd Says Rewind (2 Remixes) - Big City Recs 006 - 1993 -
£8
> >> >
> >> > China White - High and Dry - Vicious Vinyl - £13
> >> >
> >> > X-Static EP - Ready to Go / Murderous Style / My Inspiration -
> >>Production
> >> > House PNT040 - £6
> >> >
> >> > Anti Chaos - Life can Begin / Crazy Jungle - Production House -
1993 -
> >> > PNT049 - £7
> >> >
> >> > The House Crew - We are Hardcore remix / Maniac remix - Production
> >>House
> >> > 035R - £13
> >> >
> >> > Sonz of a loop da Loop era - Pease and Lovism / Freedonism - Sub Base
> >>14 -
> >> > £12
> >> >
> >> > Sonz of a loop da loop era - Pease + Lovism 4 Hero rmx + wierd
breakism
> >>mix
> >> > - Sub Base 1992 14R - £12
> >> >
> >> > Son'z of a loop da loop era - Further Out (far out rmx) / Let ur mind
b
> >>free
> >> > - Sub Base 008R- 1991 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Timebase (Krome and Time) - Unity / Fireball - Suburban Base
repress -
> >>SBP
> >> > 100 - £5
> >> >
> >> > Q Bass - Deepa (NRG remix / Funky Hardcore (DJ Hype remix) - Suburban
> >>Base
> >> > 1993 - Sub Base 21R - £7
> >> >
> >> > Acen - Trip to the Moon part 1  / Obsessed- Production House 1992 -
PNT
> >>042
> >> > - £18
> >> >
> >> > Aurora - Sunshine / Voice of Budda - Spectral Bass / 3 - 6 - 9 -
> >>Adrenalin
> >> > 1992 - £12
> >> >
> >> > Citadel of Kaos pt 1 - The Living Dream - Shut up and listen + 3
others
> >>-
> >> > Boombastic Plastic 001 - £13
> >> >
> >> > Citadel of Kaos pt 5 - Warped / Freedom / Earthquake / Drums of
Justice
> >>-
> >> > Boombastic Platic 1993 - £6
> >> >
> >> > Essense of Aura - Destiny EP - Destiny / Floodlite / Spiral / Madder
> >>than
> >> > Adam - EOA 001 - £10
> >> >
> >> > The Men from del Bosca - El Bland e / Fistfull of el pesos + 2
others -
> >> > Giant Trax 001 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Chemical Company - Tronic Equator - £5
> >> >
> >> > Sudden Def - Let it hit dem / give it to me / fall like rain -
> >>Reinforced -
> >> > RIVET 1219 - £6
> >> >
> >> > Open Skies - Ozone Nights / Deep in your Eyes + 2 others -
Reinforced -
> >> > RIVET 1231 - £7
> >> >
> >> > Manix - Try to Love Me / Hardcore Junglism / Rainbow People -
Reinfoced
> >>-
> >> > 1221 - £8
> >> >
> >> > Istotonik EP - Everywhere i go (2 mixes) / Lets get down / rush -
> >>Ffreedom -
> >> > TABX 108 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Isotonik - Different Strokes - Original and grooverider remix + Hasta
> >>la
> >> > vista - Ffreedom - TABX 101 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Naughty Naughty Vol 2 (Rich in Paradise sample) - £5
> >> >
> >> > Harmony and Extreme - Love in my heart / Journey through time -
> >>Luckyspin
> >> > 010 - £6
> >> >
> >> > Sy Kick - The Knowledge EP - Promo - Quick 4 - Hamster Recs - £5
> >> >
> >> > E Kude - Never Let Go / Upside + 2 others - Boogie Times Tribe 1992 -
> >>009 -
> >> > £6
> >> >
> >> > SMF - Guillotine ray keith rmx / How many ways - Rugged Vinyl 10 - £7
> >> >
> >> > Earl Grey - Earls Groove / Oblivion Express - Rugged Vinyl 16 -
1996 -
> >>£5
> >> >
> >> > Ultra Violet - Kites / Fly - Big Life 1990 - £10
> >> >
> >> > Shades of Rhythm - Sweet Revival - Keep it comin -SOR recs - (7") -
£3
> >> >
> >> > Usura - Open your Mind - Deconstruction - 1992 - £4
> >> >
> >> > Luxury II - You and Me / The silencer - Spare Beat Records 1992 -
> >>SBR003 -
> >> > £5
> >> >
> >> > The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds remixes - Double 12" - Island recs -
£5
> >> >
> >> > Guru Josh - Infinity - Deconstruction - £5
> >> >
> >> > Love Deacde - I Know - New Atlantic recs (7"!) - £5
> >> >
> >> > cheeeeeeeeers
> >> >
> >> > dave t
> >> >
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Subject: (oldschool) 4 those asking bout tronik +



3 or 4 people mailed asking if chemical company - tronik equator was still 
available, thought id reply to the list rather than to everyone who asked..

its gone to dj hectic...


suprised no-one wants the 2 below, used to see free spirit on loads of wants 
lists,

and i remember twist offering £50 if anyone had that here and now tune once
"im here to spread love, im here to spread love..."
"right here, right here, right here - right now.."
its on ellis dee - fantazia one step beyond i think,


Free Spirit - Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical Illusion - 
Incite Records 1993 - £10

Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 - 1992 - 
£13


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Just beat the rich bugger on Ebay!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2541632607

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he still made you pays loads for it tho. by congrats anyway. almost feels
like you're beating some kinda world dictator dunnit!!!


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Just beat the rich bugger on Ebay!!!

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well.. unfortunately Rokabe still hasn't worked out that by putting bids on
everything early, he only succeeds in pushing the price sky high for
everyone.  But seeing as hes bought so much, money obviously isn't an issue
!  If it were me though, i'd still rather not pay top wack...

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he still made you pays loads for it tho. by congrats anyway. almost feels
like you're beating some kinda world dictator dunnit!!!


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Just beat the rich bugger on Ebay!!!

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wots that tune like mate?

ive got the black wax ep by capone on target, is it anything like that?


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>well.. unfortunately Rokabe still hasn't worked out that by putting bids on
>everything early, he only succeeds in pushing the price sky high for
>everyone.  But seeing as hes bought so much, money obviously isn't an issue
>!  If it were me though, i'd still rather not pay top wack...
>
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>he still made you pays loads for it tho. by congrats anyway. almost feels
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!!

i think liziness comes with wealth. he probably can't be arsed looking
around all over the place for tunes. rather just sit in his leather
armchair, while his beautiful swedish maids peel him grapes while buying
tunes. I think i'd probably do the same, although i'd find it hard to stay
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> well.. unfortunately Rokabe still hasn't worked out that by putting bids
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> everything early, he only succeeds in pushing the price sky high for
> everyone.  But seeing as hes bought so much, money obviously isn't an
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>
> he still made you pays loads for it tho. by congrats anyway. almost feels
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>>>while his beautiful swedish maids peel him grapes

ROTFLMAO !!!!



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Ijust hope he bids on some of the tunes that i've stuck up today. i need
some money, i'm struggling to pay the rent this month!!!!


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i will email him the link m8... should see your prices rocket !!!


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Ijust hope he bids on some of the tunes that i've stuck up today. i need
some money, i'm struggling to pay the rent this month!!!!


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Whenever I see he's winning on an auction it's like a red flag to a bull - I
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Undercover Ebay Agent... could be true you know !



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Whenever I see he's winning on an auction it's like a red flag to a bull - I
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> Undercover Ebay Agent... could be true you know !

I'm going to e-mil him and ask him if he's a lottery winner. Let's just hope
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he's bought tunes from me in the past. paid straight away thru paypal. he
must have a massive limit on his credit card!!!


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> Undercover Ebay Agent... could be true you know !
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> 
> wots that tune like mate?
> 
> ive got the black wax ep by capone on target, is it anything like that?
> 

Dunno mate. I haven't got that one...

I'll stick a soundclip up when it arrives if you want...


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LSD Ellis Dee - Base 2 Base=20

anyone got this one for sale !=20
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) tune want

i won a copy on ebay a couple of weeks back, just waiting for it to turn up
then i can rip you an mp3 mate ;)
it is this one you're on about right?
Rhythm Section Recordings - RENN3001 - Bass2Base (Rennie P & Ellis Dee) -
Hypno 2 / Try Later

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LSD Ellis Dee - Base 2 Base

anyone got this one for sale !
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It's the next Global:beats, and this time its a
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When :: Saturday 9th August
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W1
Time :: 10.00pm - 4.00am  

Global:beats is teaming up MOFO with to bring you
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ROOM 1 - THE BREAKS

KLAUS (2 Sinners, Mob, 2S2) 
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IAN DAVY (Global:Beats!) - Big Beat & Old Skool
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JAY CUNNING Vs KLAUS - Old Skool DnB Set 


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It's on ebay as we apeak... Was thinking of bidding myself, but I've spent
too much already the last few days!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2542816377&category=297
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I'll take that free spirit off you mate, do you take Paypal???
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>
>
> 3 or 4 people mailed asking if chemical company - tronik equator was still
> available, thought id reply to the list rather than to everyone who
asked..
>
> its gone to dj hectic...
>
>
> suprised no-one wants the 2 below, used to see free spirit on loads of
wants
> lists,
>
> and i remember twist offering £50 if anyone had that here and now tune
once
> "im here to spread love, im here to spread love..."
> "right here, right here, right here - right now.."
> its on ellis dee - fantazia one step beyond i think,
>
>
> Free Spirit - Illusion EP - Thrive / Optical Illusion / Dubtical
Illusion -
> Incite Records 1993 - £10
>
> Syko and Mk - Homcide EP - Here and Now + 5 others - PMT recs 004 - 1992 -
> £13
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) tune want

thx for passin that info on
owe ya one Ed

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> It's on ebay as we apeak... Was thinking of bidding myself, but I've spent
> too much already the last few days!
>
>
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> 88&rd=1
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> LSD Ellis Dee - Base 2 Base
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Venom - I Need Your Love / Never Felt This Way Before - Creative Rhythm =
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Hiya peeps!!=0D
Can anyone tell me the name of the label (& EP if applicable) this tune i=
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on?=0D
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) loadsa tunes on ebay, some reeeeeet bargains too!!!

Now these are bargains...

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=andyj666&completed=0&sort=3&since=-1

watch the wrapraround!

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) loadsa tunes on ebay, some reeeeeet bargains too!!!

>>>Now these are bargains...


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did the trick mate, he's bid on nealry all my first 30 tunes. push them
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> i will email him the link m8... should see your prices rocket !!!
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scratch that, he's now bid on just about everything!! hahahaha, is there no
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> did the trick mate, he's bid on nealry all my first 30 tunes. push them
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!!

actually, i just checked his feedback & its absolutely incredible....
although hes on about 300+ .... hes actually bought well over 1000 tunes and
hes got 100% rating... so he obviously has paid for everything straight up &
if you take 1000 tunes at about £5 each (and thats a low average for
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scratch that, he's now bid on just about everything!! hahahaha, is there no
limit to the gaping casm that is his wallet!!


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> did the trick mate, he's bid on nealry all my first 30 tunes. push them
> prices up baby!!!
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!!

On a mission, a mission to own every oldskool record ever pressed!!

Wonder if he is a newbee just getting into the sound, or if he's an old
geezer that sold off all his records bout five years ago and wants em all
back now that he has a cash flow!??

the guy is crazy no doubt. love to have his bank account though.

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:

> actually, i just checked his feedback & its absolutely incredible....
> although hes on about 300+ .... hes actually bought well over 1000 tunes =
and
> hes got 100% rating... so he obviously has paid for everything straight u=
p &
> if you take 1000 tunes at about =A35 each (and thats a low average for
> tunes)... thats a hell of a lot of money. Hes definitely on some sort of
> mission !!!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
> Sent: 08 July 2003 23:03
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!!
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>
> scratch that, he's now bid on just about everything!! hahahaha, is there =
no
> limit to the gaping casm that is his wallet!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!!

on 9/7/03 7:20 AM, Ryan Lee at rylee@cloudfactory.org wrote:

> On a mission, a mission to own every oldskool record ever pressed!!
> 
> Wonder if he is a newbee just getting into the sound, or if he's an old
> geezer that sold off all his records bout five years ago and wants em all
> back now that he has a cash flow!??
> 
> the guy is crazy no doubt. love to have his bank account though.


Someone get him on the list. It'd be great to hear what the guy (or gal) has
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Colin Dee.


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!!

Man I thought I spent a few dollars on Ebay rounding up some classics.. that
Rockabe must either have more dollars than sense, or hes prepared to live on
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Subject: (oldschool) Italio rave tune ID needed

Thought I'd throw this one out to the worldwide old skool collective and see
if anyone may have heard of a tune called "le (or la) gotto ray(or re)" its
circa 1992.

Its apparently rare as rocking horse shite, only 1 DJ over here has it and
used to play it at some of the first clubs / raves in 1992 I went to here in
Perth, its a killer. He won't part with it for your first born either..

Muchly appreciated if anyone can shed any light as to full correct name /
label..




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James, which Dj has it? It's not Hutcho by any chance?=0D
You should ask the guy to dig it out and get you the details.=0D
=0D
While we're on the subject of rare Italo rave tunes from 92, anyone know =
of
a stonking tune called Highlander or perhaps it was by Highlander. It was
full on hoovering with a female vocal sample "Welcome to" and a male voca=
l
sample that sounds like "Enough" which I believe may be from the movie
Highlander. It also had those famous chord stabs similar to that found in
RTZ's "Dance Your Ass Off". =0D
=0D
Anyone?=0D
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Ian=0D
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Date: Wednesday, 9 July 2003 1:15:46 =0D
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Subject: (oldschool) Italio rave tune ID needed=0D
 =0D
Thought I'd throw this one out to the worldwide old skool collective and =
see=0D
if anyone may have heard of a tune called "le (or la) gotto ray(or re)" i=
ts=0D
circa 1992.=0D
=0D
Its apparently rare as rocking horse shite, only 1 DJ over here has it an=
d=0D
used to play it at some of the first clubs / raves in 1992 I went to here=
 in=0D
Perth, its a killer. He won't part with it for your first born either..=0D
=0D
Muchly appreciated if anyone can shed any light as to full correct name /=
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label..=0D
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I sold Rockabe some tunes b4 on ebay and when it came to correspondence =
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or hes prepared to live on
>pot noodles for his tunes!


lol ive eaten old wotsits n kitkat from the bottom of me bag b4 in town, was 
either that or not get as many tunes, lol


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>Man I thought I spent a few dollars on Ebay rounding up some classics.. 
>that
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Don't think it's a girl, when i dealt with Rokabe i'm sure his name was
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then again my memory is absolute shite anyway :/

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I sold Rockabe some tunes b4 on ebay and when it came to correspondence I am
sure if my memory serves me correctly she was a girl??

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maybe its more than one person like BassGenerator

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it'd definatly make more sense if it's more than one person, how the hell do
you find the cash to clock up 30 positive feedback points in 1 week?????
maybe someone should introduce him to some of the online recordstores, he'd
clear em out in one go!

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maybe its more than one person like BassGenerator

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!! 

its Lawrence... definitely not a girl


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Don't think it's a girl, when i dealt with Rokabe i'm sure his name was
Laurence.
then again my memory is absolute shite anyway :/

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> its Lawrence... definitely not a girl

Lawrence is also a female name Mike.

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Dont forget A DECADE OF DESTRUCTION Saturday 26th July, Egypt Cottage, City
Road, Newcastle, England

Celebrating 10 years of playing out in clubs im doing a 10 hour oldskool set
!

Unfortunatly I havnt got time to play every style I was wanting to play, so
I have done 2 bonus mixes which are in MP3 dormat and available to download
from my site http://www.GeordieGabbaMafia.org

Oldskool Electro Hip Hop:
Doug E Fresh & MC Ricky D - La Di Da Di (Cooltempo)
Marley Marl - Marley Marl Scratch (Nia Records)
Captain Rock - Bongo Beat (Nia Records)
UTFO & Full Force - Roxanne, Roxanne (Streetwave)
Roxanne & UTFO - The Real Roxanne (Select)
West Street Mob - Break Dance - Electric Boogie (Sugar Hill)
Herbie Hancock - Rockit (CBS)
Harold Faltermeyer - Axel F (M & M Mix) (MCA)
Afrika Bambaataa & Soul Sonic Force - Looking For The Perfect Beat (21
Records)
Hashim - Al-Naafiysh (Streetwave)
Arthur Baker - Breakers Revenge (B Boy Breaks)
Afrika Bambaataa & Soul Sonic Force - Planet Rock (Tommy Boy)
The World Class Wreckin Cru - Juice (Kru Cut)
The World Class Wreckin Cru - Surgery (Remixed) (Kru Cut)
Egyptian Lover - Egypt, Egypt (Egyptian Empire)
Kraftwork - Tour De France (EMI)
Ice T, The Glove & Dave Storrs - Reckless (Taxider Mi Records)
Ice T, The Glove & Dave Storrs - Tibetan Jam (Taxider Mi Records)

1988 Acid House:
?? - In The Beginning 
?? - Stand By Acid (Back To House Records)
Mr Lee - Pump Up London (Breakout)
Baby Ford - Oochy Koochy (Rhythm King)
Phuture - The Creator (Jack Trax)
Adrenalon MOD - Ecstasy (Wherever You May Be) (MCA)
Bam Bam - Give It To Me (Serious)
Bam Bam - Where's Your Child (Desire)
Laurent X - Machines (House Nation)
Tyree - Acid Over (FFRR)
Children Of The Night - Its A Trip (Tune In, Turn In, Drop Out) (Jive)
Humanoid - Stakker Humanoid (Westside)
Mr Lee 0 House This House (Trax)
The Garden of Eden - The Garden Of Eden (white label)
Brandon Cooke feat Roxanne Shante - Sharp As A Knife (Club)
D.Mob feat Gary Haisman - We Call It Acid (FFRR)
Tyree - Turn Up The Bass (FFRR)
Mike Dunn - Magic Feet (Westbrook)
Maurice Joshua - This Is Acid (Trax)
Ecsatsy Club - Jesus Love The Acid (Hardware)
Jolly Roger - Acid Man (10)
Mista E - Dont Believe The Hype (Urban)

I will be recording the 10 hour set onto MP3 which will be available on CD
with the 2 bonus mixes also on the CD.

Enjoy !

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on 9/7/03 11:01 PM, Smurfy Boy at Smurf@GeordieGabbaMafia.org wrote:

> Dont forget A DECADE OF DESTRUCTION Saturday 26th July, Egypt Cottage, City
> Road, Newcastle, England
> 
> Celebrating 10 years of playing out in clubs im doing a 10 hour oldskool set
> !
> 
> Unfortunatly I havnt got time to play every style I was wanting to play, so
> I have done 2 bonus mixes which are in MP3 dormat and available to download
> from my site http://www.GeordieGabbaMafia.org

Wow - that's some tune selection you have there Smurf. I am about to DL as
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> Lawrence is also a female name Mike.

Just like 'Colin'!

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These look fantastic - I'm off to get them now...cheers Smurf!

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> These look fantastic - I'm off to get them now...cheers Smurf!


they do dont they,=20

no chance on this biscuit for a modem :o(



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> These look fantastic - I'm off to get them now...cheers Smurf!


>they do dont they,

>no chance on this biscuit for a modem :o(

What u on about?!
Im looking forward to getting that old hiphop/electo one and im on a 56k
too.
Infact, at the mo im downloading Fast & Furious of Kazaa, 384MB of 693MB so
far =)

Who says u cant do big downloads on dialup? :op

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Starting in  5mins (ok, so not live NOW lol)
I'll be starting my show again after a short break due to moving =
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Tune in at www.breakpirates.com ill be in the chatroom for any requests =
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Subject: (oldschool) Clips up for IDing 

from a mix tape I sent to Mr Gugsy

someone must know this one:

http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/bb5.mp3

and this hardcore thing:

http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/bb1.mp3

both from 92 or possibly late 91.... I've got more to post soon.

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Erm - yeah - just like Colin.

If your email is an attempt at some sort of sarcasm because you disagree
with my post then go and ask the tanned lady with the 34inch bust whose been
swinging her golden hips round our way 'Kev'!

Colin Dee.

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> Lawrence is also a female name Mike.

Just like 'Colin'!


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> If your email is an attempt at some sort of sarcasm because you disagree
> with my post then go and ask the tanned lady with the 34inch bust whose
been
> swinging her golden hips round our way 'Kev'!

Yeah they have cards about [wo]men like that in the phone boxes round here.
Does she have stubble and a 12-inch penis to go with the tan and tits?

Sorry... but I've never met, or even heard of, a girl called Lawrence.

Have done a bit of resaearch.
Lawrence isn't listed here:
http://www.thebabyregistry.co.uk/names/nameg4.htm
but is here:
http://www.thebabyregistry.co.uk/names/nameb4.htm

This page:
http://wordbytes.org/saints/names-girls-hm.htm
says that 'Laraine' is the feminine of Lawrence -- Lawrence is definitely
the masculine version.

http://www.babynameworld.com/l-boy.asp
Says Lawrence means "laurel crown", has a Latin origin, and is a name for a
BOY.

http://home.clara.net/gwsmith/ceremonies/christening/girls/
"Lauren is a female form of Lawrence"

I have eventually found this site:
"Unique and unusual Girls
names":http://www.pdom.com/.%5Cunique_and_unusual_girls_names.htm
Which has Lawrence listed.

But I maintain that the reason it's unique and unusual is because *it's a
boy's name*.

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lol, bored @ werk Kev?

needed sommat to do?

PS. at our skool was a bloke called Tracy.


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> > If your email is an attempt at some sort of sarcasm because you =
disagree
> > with my post then go and ask the tanned lady with the 34inch bust =
whose
> been
> > swinging her golden hips round our way 'Kev'!
>=20
> Yeah they have cards about [wo]men like that in the phone boxes round =
here.
> Does she have stubble and a 12-inch penis to go with the tan and tits?
>=20
> Sorry... but I've never met, or even heard of, a girl called Lawrence.
>=20
> Have done a bit of resaearch.
> Lawrence isn't listed here:
> http://www.thebabyregistry.co.uk/names/nameg4.htm
> but is here:
> http://www.thebabyregistry.co.uk/names/nameb4.htm
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> This page:
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> says that 'Laraine' is the feminine of Lawrence -- Lawrence is =
definitely
> the masculine version.
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> http://www.babynameworld.com/l-boy.asp
> Says Lawrence means "laurel crown", has a Latin origin, and is a name =
for a
> BOY.
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> http://home.clara.net/gwsmith/ceremonies/christening/girls/
> "Lauren is a female form of Lawrence"
>=20
> I have eventually found this site:
> "Unique and unusual Girls
> names":http://www.pdom.com/.%5Cunique_and_unusual_girls_names.htm
> Which has Lawrence listed.
>=20
> But I maintain that the reason it's unique and unusual is because =
*it's a
> boy's name*.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) I beat rockabe!!

Okay Kevin - you're right, i'm wrong. I'm off to do something a bit more
constructive.

Back to the original topic... who can get this Rockabe onto the list? I - as
well as many other I'd presume - would like to hear all from Rocakabe...
which well may a typo for Rock-Babe. What dya reckon Kev? :))

Colin Dee ducks for cover LOL.


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> If your email is an attempt at some sort of sarcasm because you disagree
> with my post then go and ask the tanned lady with the 34inch bust whose
been
> swinging her golden hips round our way 'Kev'!

Yeah they have cards about [wo]men like that in the phone boxes round here.
Does she have stubble and a 12-inch penis to go with the tan and tits?

Sorry... but I've never met, or even heard of, a girl called Lawrence.


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> lol, bored @ werk Kev?
Just a bit!  Bloody loads to do too before the weekend and I just can't help
myself wasting time with this rubbish.

> at our skool was a bloke called Tracy.
Yeah my mate's middle name is Leslie.
He doesn't like people to mention it though.


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> Okay Kevin - you're right, i'm wrong.
No no no don't just give in like that ;o)

> I'm off to do something a bit more constructive.
Like try to get off with that bird Richard who works in the shop down the
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I wish i knew what it was.......because Ive been after that 1st one for for
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> from a mix tape I sent to Mr Gugsy
>
> someone must know this one:
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you may well be right m8, i'm not a expert in female names !


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on 10/7/03 2:13 AM, Mike Bosley at djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
wrote:

> its Lawrence... definitely not a girl

Lawrence is also a female name Mike.

Colin Dee.


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tune number 1-is metronome-voyage to the bottom of the bass/fields of
dreams-wbr recs-wbr101..
i've got a mint copy i might trade,send over your trades list.
zak.
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> from a mix tape I sent to Mr Gugsy
>
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> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/bb5.mp3
>
> and this hardcore thing:
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> Mucky
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yea tight hookup, thanx fo tha link!  =]

Jon 
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Someone sent me payment from overseas for a 12" won on ebay,but the money 
never arrived... how do i claim back fees from ebay ? I cant seem to find 
any links! I know someone mentioned how to before on the list,but i cant 
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Well, I think actually you have to go through the process of filing a
non-paying bidder form. Then after all that is done, then you can get your
fee's back.

-ryan

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on 10/7/03 10:27 PM, Kev Keenoy at kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com wrote:

>> Okay Kevin - you're right, i'm wrong.
> No no no don't just give in like that ;o)
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Firstly you have to raise a non-paying bidder alert. Then after 10 days you
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how much does it cost to list a record on ebay anyway? if ive got 3 tunes i 
want to auction, and they each go for £20ish will it cost me a bit?



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about two quid i reckon for the three

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786 001  - FORCE - beginning=0D
786 008  - SUBCULTURE - meltdown/deep space=0D
786 014  - EYE SPY, DJ - do me right (org/do no wrong)=0D
786 017  - TRANQUIL ONE - dance to the music/rave era=0D
786 025  - D MAJOR - make a break=0D
Can anyone tell me if these tunes are any good?=0D
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sure. Your opinions please!!!=0D
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well.. dunno about those there... but  Subculture - Caligular was wicked...
so was Krackpotz Vol 1  &  that Energize tune

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786 001  - FORCE - beginning 786 008  - SUBCULTURE - meltdown/deep space 786
014  - EYE SPY, DJ - do me right (org/do no wrong) 786 017  - TRANQUIL ONE -
dance to the music/rave era 786 025  - D MAJOR - make a break Can anyone
tell me if these tunes are any good? I've been told that all tunes on this
label are wicked but just want to be
sure. Your opinions please!!! Cheers peeps!! Ian


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I dont know those ones, but the best tunes on that label are

Naz AKA Naz - Started again (Original)
Boomtown Productions - Energize
Boomtown Productions - All rude boys (This is a fucking tune!!!)
 
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Subject: (oldschool) SOUR - Nu Skool Update

Someone on the list was asking about a tune (Ian in Oz I Think) and I said I
thought it was on the SOUR compilation. Well - as expected, I was wrong :)
Sorry Ian.

But some good did come about out of it. Murphy as in Murphy's Law raised his
head again. The day I typed that email, I walked into a local record shop
and lo and behold, a copy of the above was sitting in the second-hand bin.
Free-keeey.

For anyone who hasn't heard this release from SOUR - it's an absolute
blinder. There are two plates with two tracks on each side and are pretty
good pressing. Anyhows, I have two copies now so if anyone is willing to
give me a good trade for it, I'll be happy to see it go to a good home.

Tracks are as follows...
** 1996 sour records UK - Nu Skool Update**
45 roller - into the beat
shapeshifter - communicate with the world
elementz of noize - one time
shapeshifter - talkin mad shit
tc islam & alien 3 - let the bass boom
tonic aka the mack - outcast
elementz of noize - science
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Heya peeps!!=0D
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Dairymilk Warrior "One More", track 2 on side AA of the B2VOS EP #1

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Thanks Dave.=0D
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Thanks Dave.
Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but not
the same tune.
 
Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
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Yeah its someone called Lawrence in London - I think its a geezer though

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its Lawrence... definitely not a girl


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Don't think it's a girl, when i dealt with Rokabe i'm sure his name was
Laurence.
then again my memory is absolute shite anyway :/

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I sold Rockabe some tunes b4 on ebay and when it came to correspondence I am
sure if my memory serves me correctly she was a girl??

P.S. anyone got a spare copy of Pulp Fiction - Alex Reece for sale or trade?

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Colin mate,=0D
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On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ian wrote:
> Thanks Dave.
> Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but not
> the same tune.
>
> Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
> perhaps?

I seem to remember there being the same sample in their song called "What
Would You Like To Hear Again" -- unfortunately I have no clue which remix
of it, and I know there's tons of them out there...

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dye Witness - Only If I Had One More

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 04:28:28 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control 
<purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ian wrote:
>> Thanks Dave.
>> Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but 
>> not
>> the same tune.
>>
>> Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
>> perhaps?
>
> I seem to remember there being the same sample in their song called "What
> Would You Like To Hear Again" --


That's actually called "Starship To Venus", and I don't believe it had that 
sample in it.





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Concerned Colin

Colin, the html emails dont actually make it to the list, what happened is 
that the list AND your email addy was in the To: line, so you got two 
copies:  one from the list in text, and one to yourself in html (therefore 
not going through the lists html-converting software)

:)




On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:17:59 +0800, Ian <ian_soord@iinet.net.au> wrote:

> Colin mate,
>
> I wasnt aware my emails were being sent as HTML.
>
> Found the switch in my email client and have changed to text only.
>
> Sorry for the concern.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
>
>
> From: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>
> Date: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 5:43:43
>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dye Witness - Only If I Had One More
>
>
>
> Sorry to be a grump guys but can we refrain from sending HTML emails? 
> They
>
> are a breeding ground for viruses and other nasty bits. I've asked Dest
>
> about it as I've never know the list to send these out before.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Colin Dee.
>
>
>
> ***
>
>
>
>
>
> on 15/7/03 5:16 PM, Ian at .net.au wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks Dave.
>
> Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but 
> not
>
> the same tune.
>
>
>
> Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
>
> perhaps?
>
>
>
> Cheers!
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Subject: (oldschool) callin entropy

Entropy.. did u get my email re: paypal?

Reply private stylee.. cheeaararrrs

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dye Witness - Only If I Had One More

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, DJ Entropy wrote:
> > On Tue, 15 Jul 2003, Ian wrote:
> >> Thanks Dave.
> >> Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but
> >> not
> >> the same tune.
> >>
> >> Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
> >> perhaps?
> >
> > I seem to remember there being the same sample in their song called "What
> > Would You Like To Hear Again" --
>
>
> That's actually called "Starship To Venus", and I don't believe it had that
> sample in it.

No, there is one called "What Would You Like To Hear Again" as well...
starts off:

"Hey babe, what would like to hear again?"
   "DYEWITNESS."
"What would you like to hear?"
   "DYEWITNESS."
"What would you like to hear?"
and then goes into a hoover pattern and "only if i had one more, keep
ripping down the door, whateverblahdeblah" vocals.  If I can find my MP3
I'll put it up somewhere.

But there's a page for it on discogs.com:
http://www.discogs.com/release/46181

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dye Witness - Only If I Had One More

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:31:51 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control 
<purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

>> That's actually called "Starship To Venus", and I don't believe it had 
>> that
>> sample in it.
>
> No, there is one called "What Would You Like To Hear Again" as well...
> starts off:
>
> "Hey babe, what would like to hear again?"
> "DYEWITNESS."
> "What would you like to hear?"
> "DYEWITNESS."
> "What would you like to hear?"
> and then goes into a hoover pattern and "only if i had one more, keep
> ripping down the door, whateverblahdeblah" vocals.  If I can find my MP3
> I'll put it up somewhere.


Ohhh, weird.  I didn't know that.

Did they do "Shut the fuck up, bitch you can't sing!" as well?  I have that 
on Watts as well as Starship to Venus.




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Subject: (oldschool) Re:tune ID 

Hi all, 

I've been after a tune for ages with the vocals: 

"Take me higher.. take me.. take me higher" 

It got rinsed at the techno club I used to go to as an underager in
92, but 
I never found out who it was by.. crap description I know, but I was
16! 
******************

I know it's kinda obvious, but could it be "Trip to the Moon" (by
Acen).  And then there was also that "Let the Music Go" tune on the
Illegal Hardcore (or whatever it was called) CD compilation with the
same sample, but I think that was from '93.

"Be warned that some functions consume
processing time and memory at a frightening rate. Do
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Just a quick mail to let you all know Dest is offline for a few days, =
his PC went pop, he should be back towards the end of the week, Friday =
or Saturday
If you need to get a hold of him for any reason before then, let me know =
private stylee and I'll pass any messages on to him
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Sassy

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enrage, take me higher. i have the original or orbit recs (i think). the
remix is wicked too.


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> Hi all,
>
> I've been after a tune for ages with the vocals:
>
> "Take me higher.. take me.. take me higher"
>
> It got rinsed at the techno club I used to go to as an underager in
> 92, but
> I never found out who it was by.. crap description I know, but I was
> 16!
> ******************
>
> I know it's kinda obvious, but could it be "Trip to the Moon" (by
> Acen).  And then there was also that "Let the Music Go" tune on the
> Illegal Hardcore (or whatever it was called) CD compilation with the
> same sample, but I think that was from '93.
>
> "Be warned that some functions consume
> processing time and memory at a frightening rate. Do
> not execute the function: fun bad x = (bad x)^(bad x);"
>
>
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Erm - doesn't seems to be the case. I only got one copy of the email and it
was to my address. It was to <oldschool@hyperreal.org>

Colin Dee.


on 15/7/03 11:23 PM, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:

> Colin, the html emails dont actually make it to the list, what happened is
> that the list AND your email addy was in the To: line, so you got two
> copies:  one from the list in text, and one to yourself in html (therefore
> not going through the lists html-converting software)
> 
> :)


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Subject: (oldschool) Ebay Help

Alright peeps,

Having left uni I no longer have access to my email address that I was 
registered on ebay with. However it won't let me register the above address 
as I don't have a credit card. Any suggestions (sensible) and do Ebay have 
an email address I can send the same query to?

For the record, this isn't laziness, but the fact I can't spend the next 
half hour at work on ebay trying to work out what the hell to do =)

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Paul

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Ebay Help

it won't let u use hotmail accounts because they are anonymous.

or possibly u can make up a credit card number sommat like

4929 4939 2305 3209
exp 12/05

but u didnt hear dat from me

lol

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> Alright peeps,
>
> Having left uni I no longer have access to my email address that I was
> registered on ebay with. However it won't let me register the above
address
> as I don't have a credit card. Any suggestions (sensible) and do Ebay have
> an email address I can send the same query to?
>
> For the record, this isn't laziness, but the fact I can't spend the next
> half hour at work on ebay trying to work out what the hell to do =)
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Subject: (oldschool) List Gone Quiet + Who Has A Collection of 786 Approved Records?

Whats happened to the list? Its gone very quiet.=0D
I remember when you used to receive a 100 odd email a day.=0D
=0D
Does anyone have an extensive range of 786 Approved tunage?=0D
Apart from the tunes a couple of you mentioned recently, I would like to
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Subject: (oldschool) Naz AKA Nax - It Started Again

Can anyone tell me which version of "It Started Again" contains the choir
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The Score"  ?=0D
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I've heard that Entropy has been done for having kiddie porn
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Ha ha I wouldn't be surprised
 
---chris
 
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Thats a bit harsh innit?

I very much doubt thats the case. Where did you hear that?

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Some American guy that banned Entropy from a dnb forum.
Apparently he's been done for drug trafficking and kiddie
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> Apparently he's been done for drug trafficking and kiddie
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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Sampler for sale...

My mate has a Yamaha A4000 sampler for sale - he'll take £300 for it if
anyone's interested.
It has an internal hard drive fitted too, bundled in with the price -
bargain!

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Innit! !


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Subject: (oldschool) "Take Me Higher" ID

OK great well I've found out that my unknown was the Band Of Gypsies one...
but that doesn't help you James I know.
Good luck!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:19:43 +0100 (BST), Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com> 
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> I've heard that Entropy has been done for having kiddie porn
> on his computer? Is there any truth to this?


None at all.


I got arrested a couple months ago for selling meth.  I'm out on bail right 
now, and the trial has barely even started yet.





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> I got arrested a couple months ago for selling meth. 
Don't you mean "allegedly selling meth"?


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LOL, yeah allegedly is the word to use;-) Unless you have admitted it already then thats fine:-)


> > I got arrested a couple months ago for selling meth. 
>Don't you mean "allegedly selling meth"?
>
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:53:15 GMT+01:00, <djhb@talk21.com> wrote:

>
> LOL, yeah allegedly is the word to use;-) Unless you have admitted it 
> already then thats fine:-)


Haha, true.  I was "allegedly" selling meth.  ;)



Didn't I already mention this on the list???



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Subject: (oldschool) On A Happy Hardcore Tip....

 Another one for ya's.....=0D
=0D
Anyone know of a Happy Hardcore tune, circa 1994/5 with female vocal samp=
le:=0D
 "open your mind and your eyes will see me, me, me....."=0D
=0D
An absolute wicked tune!!!!!=0D
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I really need this one so if any of you have mates that are Happy Hard fa=
ns,
could you please ask them for me!!=0D
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> Haha, true.  I was "allegedly" selling meth.  ;)
Yeah - always remember to talk like this about it if you're pleading not
guilty!

> Didn't I already mention this on the list???
Yeah you did, but I think it was the untrue further allegations that were in
question this time.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy

what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn.
Personally I dont belive it from what I have read on here and would
rather think that type of behavior lies with pervey middle
aged men or billy no mate's.

But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material
I would go ballistic over it.

Just a thought any way.

Keep it real

Chris



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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:53:15 GMT+01:00, <djhb@talk21.com> wrote:

>
> LOL, yeah allegedly is the word to use;-) Unless you have admitted it 
> already then thats fine:-)


Haha, true.  I was "allegedly" selling meth.  ;)



Didn't I already mention this on the list???



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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:13:02 +0100, Christian_Reason <info@feeling-of- 
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> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn.
> Personally I dont belive it from what I have read on here and would
> rather think that type of behavior lies with pervey middle
> aged men or billy no mate's.
>
> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material
> I would go ballistic over it.



Chris, I'm arguably the biggest Hardcore DJ in the US; I'm used to people 
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Good attitude to take;)
Rise above it.

Safe#

Chris


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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:13:02 +0100, Christian_Reason <info@feeling-of- 
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> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn.
> Personally I dont belive it from what I have read on here and would
> rather think that type of behavior lies with pervey middle
> aged men or billy no mate's.
>
> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material
> I would go ballistic over it.



Chris, I'm arguably the biggest Hardcore DJ in the US; I'm used to people 
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Get a webmail account with one of the less known 
sites, like worldmailer.com or mail.com.

ddh

> it won't let u use hotmail accounts because they are 
anonymous.
> 
> or possibly u can make up a credit card number 
sommat like
> 
> 4929 4939 2305 3209
> exp 12/05
> 
> but u didnt hear dat from me
> 
> lol
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:20 AM
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> 
> 
> > Alright peeps,
> >
> > Having left uni I no longer have access to my 
email address that I was
> > registered on ebay with. However it won't let me 
register the above
> address
> > as I don't have a credit card. Any suggestions 
(sensible) and do Ebay have
> > an email address I can send the same query to?
> >
> > For the record, this isn't laziness, but the fact 
I can't spend the next
> > half hour at work on ebay trying to work out what 
the hell to do =)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Paul
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> Whats happened to the list? Its gone very quiet.
> I remember when you used to receive a 100 odd email 
a day.

But is this a bad thing??? ;)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) On A Happy Hardcore Tip....

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Ian wrote:
>  Another one for ya's.....
>
> Anyone know of a Happy Hardcore tune, circa 1994/5 with female vocal sample:
>  "open your mind and your eyes will see me, me, me....."
>
> An absolute wicked tune!!!!!

That one's, er, Poosie & Cru-L-T, "Hear Me Hear Me" on the Kniteforce
label.  Fucking TUNE.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) On A Happy Hardcore Tip....

I know hixxy did a tune with this vocal in.

And I did, but it was never released, so it wouldn't be that.... It made it
as far as dubplate.

The original is on Kniteforce - Poosie and Cru-l-t - Hear me.

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Another one for ya's.....

Anyone know of a Happy Hardcore tune, circa 1994/5 with female vocal sample:
 "open your mind and your eyes will see me, me, me....."

An absolute wicked tune!!!!!

I really need this one so if any of you have mates that are Happy Hard fans,
could you please ask them for me!!
Cheers all!
Ian


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how much meth did you have??? the states are very harsh with crystal
right?

-----Original Message-----
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 15:19:43 +0100 (BST), Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com> 
wrote:

> I've heard that Entropy has been done for having kiddie porn on his 
> computer? Is there any truth to this?


None at all.


I got arrested a couple months ago for selling meth.  I'm out on bail
right 
now, and the trial has barely even started yet.





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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy

lol isnt anabolic frolic the biggest hardcore dj in north america??? i
hate him btw 

-----Original Message-----
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:13:02 +0100, Christian_Reason <info@feeling-of- 
life.co.uk> wrote:

> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn. Personally I dont 
> belive it from what I have read on here and would rather think that 
> type of behavior lies with pervey middle aged men or billy no mate's.
>
> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material 
> I would go ballistic over it.



Chris, I'm arguably the biggest Hardcore DJ in the US; I'm used to
people 
talking shit about me, trust me. ;)




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Yeah still looking for my mystery track Kev...

Think I'm going to have to go to the club that this old DJ (that played the
tune lots) manages and ask him.. 

All my other mates who were playing 'back in the day' are shrugging their
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Ian

We have a copy of

Subculture - meltdown - 786 approved in stock priced at £8.00.

Let us know if you are interested.

cheers
tom
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Whats happened to the list? Its gone very quiet.
I remember when you used to receive a 100 odd email a day.

Does anyone have an extensive range of 786 Approved tunage?
Apart from the tunes a couple of you mentioned recently, I would like to
know if any of the others releases are worth buying.
Can anyone help me out?

Thanks!
Ian


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Just signed to this list - quite active compared to the others, but all that I've been on has some sort of fascination with Mr. Entropy - whats the deal??
 
Also Ian - the key word in your sentence is ARGUABLY - I despise hardcore, gives me a headache - but even I know that you certainly are not the biggest hardcore DJ in the US.  Have you ever played NYC as a headliner???  Or even for a WELL-KNOWN & WELL-LIKED production company?  And NYWO def does not count bc everyone hates that Johnny Hardcore.  And besides NYC, you have played pretty much only in the NorthEast - how, my dear, does that qualify you to be the #1 hardcore DJ in the US?
 
Aside from above... happy to introduce myself, I'm Kelly.  Live in NY - been partying since late 93-early 94 - 1st party was Bliss @ Octagon (weekly by Alan Sanctuary).  Was on NE-Raves List under supapimpny@yahoo, but that has since died, still dont know where it went.  Im pretty damn friendly & love any kind of breaks so email my ass if you know of a slammin breaks party comin up - I hate to have to go north to hear good breaks.  Also went to my 1st trance fest (usually hate trance, but I had a fucking BLAST @ that Omnifest one last month) - so if you know of any coming up def give me a shout.
 
Also, FYI - hit reply to all & the post almost got sent to the list 3 times - anyone have that problem besides me?
 

DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:13:02 +0100, Christian_Reason life.co.uk> wrote:

> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn.
> Personally I dont belive it from what I have read on here and would
> rather think that type of behavior lies with pervey middle
> aged men or billy no mate's.
>
> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material
> I would go ballistic over it.



Chris, I'm arguably the biggest Hardcore DJ in the US; I'm used to people 
talking shit about me, trust me. ;)




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Yeah entropy thinks a lot of big things about himself that may or may
not be true
 
---chris
 
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lol isnt anabolic frolic the biggest hardcore dj in north america??? i 
hate him btw 
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> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn. Personally I dont 
> belive it from what I have read on here and would rather think that 
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> 
> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material 
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im not saying anabolic frolic is the biggest hardcore dj he is
horrible..................

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Yeah entropy thinks a lot of big things about himself that may or may
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lol isnt anabolic frolic the biggest hardcore dj in north america??? i 
hate him btw 
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> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn. Personally I dont
> belive it from what I have read on here and would rather think that 
> type of behavior lies with pervey middle aged men or billy no mate's. 
> 
> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material
> I would go ballistic over it. 
 
Chris, I'm arguably the biggest Hardcore DJ in the US; I'm used to 
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Hey Tom, how are you matey?!!=0D
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Purity & Deluxe, thanks for the ID guys!!!! :)=0D
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<DIV>&gt; Another one for ya's.....</DIV>
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<DIV>&gt; Anyone know of a Happy Hardcore tune, circa 1994/5 with female =
vocal sample:</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; "open your mind and your eyes will see me, me, me....."</DIV>
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:55:44 -0400, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

> lol isnt anabolic frolic the biggest hardcore dj in north america??? i
> hate him btw


He's not in the US, he's in Canada, and he only plays HHC, not all 
Hardcore.







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> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 17:13:02 +0100, Christian_Reason <info@feeling-of- 
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>
>> what about the other allagation ref to kiddie porn. Personally I dont 
>> belive it from what I have read on here and would rather think that type 
>> of behavior lies with pervey middle aged men or billy no mate's.
>>
>> But i know if some dude had posted info about me ref to such material I 
>> would go ballistic over it.
>
>
>
> Chris, I'm arguably the biggest Hardcore DJ in the US; I'm used to
> people talking shit about me, trust me. ;)
>
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:45:16 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
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> Also Ian - the key word in your sentence is ARGUABLY - I despise 
> hardcore, gives me a headache -


Then why are you on this list?  This is a Hardcore list.



> but even I know that you certainly are not the biggest hardcore DJ in the 
> US.  Have you ever played NYC as a headliner???



Yes, a number of times.


And since when is NYC the pinnacle of Hardcore DJing???  There isn't a 
single Hardcore DJ *in* NYC (besides the jungle/dnb guys, of course).





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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:54:39 -0400, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

> how much meth did you have???


There was "allegedly" just under 1/2 an ounce (14 grams) in my house (not 
all mine, I had about 4 grams), so they combined it and are trying to get 
us all for trafficking (14-27 grams).  It's up for indictment, but most 
likely won't get that far once the drug certs come back.


> the states are very harsh with crystal
> right?


It's kinda non-exsistent on the east coast, where I am.  I "allegedly" also 
had E, shrooms, weed, kollonopins, and neurotin....my 10K laywer said I'll 
most likely end up with a couple years probation.



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Pity you didn't get raided in Aussieland mate - chemicals and plants
'disappear' during police raids - you usually end up charged with half of
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Well, the shrooms never showed up on my charges, so that worked out okay, 
hehehe.




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Funky stroganoff for the US police eh?

"Bad boy bad boys, what you gonna do when they're too whacked to come after
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So - with all the drug matters out in the open, is it true about the
pictures on the computer or is that just *allegedly* also?

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Actually I thought our man DJ Entropy has been fairly laid back about some
of the sh1t3 said on here.. I think no more needs airing -> or slinging.

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Gotta agree with you there James. Entropy has been getting a hard time as of
late - no arguments there. However, someone who has had his nads on our
screens, has been arrested for allegedly possessing meth as well as other
bits and bobs, it's bound to get mentioned from time to time.

Where I do draw the line though is  pictures of underage children being
distributed for personal pleasure. My email was a reasonable question.
Entropy has the right to answer this allegations if he so wishes and also
has the right to run his life the way that he wishes. I however, do not wish
to even wish to converse with someone who stores and gets personal
gratification from images such as those mentioned above. I makes me f**king
sick.

Colin Dee.

***

 ton 17/7/03 1:30 PM, Harcombe, James at James.Harcombe@health.wa.gov.au
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> Actually I thought our man DJ Entropy has been fairly laid back about some
> of the sh1t3 said on here.. I think no more needs airing -> or slinging.
> 
> Innocent until proven guilty.


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I got no argument with proven kiddy fiddlers getting a kick up the bum
Colin. My sz 13 stands ready for any guilty party.

But I don't think its right to air any allegations on a list like this.

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Metropolis 10... some crazy ass american compilation on *pink* vinyl LOL.

2 x 12 inches with the following tracks...
Cookin Up - 4 Hero (reinforced)
Vengance - DMS (prd house)
Nasty Rhythm - DJ Splix (elicit)
Can U Dig It - Jem 77 (21 recs)
Nightmare - Kid Unknown (warp)
Not Tonight, I'm Tired - Trip (uk white)
U Said U - Twin Head (uk white)
He never lost his hardcore - NRG (chill recs.)

Also got a few others...
Alex Reece - Feel the Sunshine
Test 1a-5
Jonny L - Piper 10 inch

plus a few others I forget.

Not baaaaaad, not baaaad at awwwl.

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> Then why are you on this list?  This is a Hardcore list.

I thought it was oldschool?
You can be into oldschool without being a fan of hardcore.

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> > Then why are you on this list?  This is a Hardcore list.
>
> I thought it was oldschool?
> You can be into oldschool without being a fan of hardcore.
>
> (sorry yes... that old chestnut ;o)

I have to agree with Kev on this one.. this list caters for all oldskool, so
you can be here for your 94/95 ragga jungle stuff, and hate happy hardcore..

Personally, i love it all. Which makes record buying quite expensive!

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on 17/7/03 4:51 PM, Kev Keenoy at kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com wrote:

>> Then why are you on this list?  This is a Hardcore list.
> 
> I thought it was oldschool?
> You can be into oldschool without being a fan of hardcore.
> 
> (sorry yes... that old chestnut ;o)


Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.

<clinches hands together, drops to his needs and looks into the sky>

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As did I - old school does not mean hardcore...if it were a hardcore list, shouldnt the title be hardcore rather than oldschool??  Just a thought, hmmm?
 
So whats the deal, does Ian know what he's talking about or is he talking with the wrong end again?  Bc, I really would rather my mailbox not be filled with hardcore mumblings if I hate the music.  
 
Thx

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I thought it was oldschool?
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> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter.
Well actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me.

Kelly - without going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like
oldschool (although if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really be
into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before anyone
starts, 1992 was also a good year!).
Generally anything ravey from the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's fine
too.
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in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that sense it's a
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And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that you pretty much *must* agree
with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will never die!" to
be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you doubt either
of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
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Oh and I joined the list because of U.K gayrage music
What am I going to do? J/K

I rekon I can safley say this is an oldskool list for oldskool people
who share a common interest in the glory years before super dooper club land
killed the scene, and of course CJA.

Long live the free spirt and long live the oldskool generation.

Back to basics is what i say

Any free party heads on this list????

Chris
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> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter.
Well actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me.

Kelly - without going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like
oldschool (although if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really be
into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before anyone
starts, 1992 was also a good year!).
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too.
Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's most interest
in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that sense it's a
hardcore list.
And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that you pretty much *must* agree
with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will never die!" to
be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you doubt either
of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
Cheers now,
Kev.


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Hi Ian

Good to hear from you again.

You can call us anytime between 10.30am and 6.30pm (uk time) and we'll =
be happy to play it to you.

Subculture - meltdown - 786

T 0044 121 766 5333

Also we are launching our new site next month and we'll be loading sound =
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Hope to hear from you soon

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        Hey Tom, how are you matey?!!

        I shall give you a call for a listen.=20
        L8R!

        Ian



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        Ian

        We have a copy of

        Subculture - meltdown - 786 approved in stock priced at =A38.00.

        Let us know if you are interested.

        cheers
        tom
        www.brarecords.com

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        Whats happened to the list? Its gone very quiet.
        I remember when you used to receive a 100 odd email a day.

        Does anyone have an extensive range of 786 Approved tunage?
        Apart from the tunes a couple of you mentioned recently, I would =
like to
        know if any of the others releases are worth buying.
        Can anyone help me out?

        Thanks!
        Ian


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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Kelly Dorman wrote:
> As did I - old school does not mean hardcore...if it were a hardcore
> list, shouldnt the title be hardcore rather than oldschool??  Just a
> thought, hmmm?
>
>  So whats the deal, does Ian know what he's talking about or is he
> talking with the wrong end again?  Bc, I really would rather my mailbox
> not be filled with hardcore mumblings if I hate the music.

There is a difference, though... when you're saying you hate "hardcore",
what are you thinking?

1) 91-94 ruff breakbeats and samples at 140+ BPM?
2) 95-2000 stompy fast cheese with divas singing about flying over
rainbows?
3) 93-whenever bangbangbangbang hard distorted kickdrums with people
shouting obscenities over the top?

All of these can be considered "hardcore"... the first one is what most
people on this list are interested in... mainly because it was some of the
most innovative music of the past twenty years, and didn't wear out its
welcome.  People call it oldskool rave, UK hardcore, or just plain
hardcore.

The second one is generally despised by most, but loved by a few, and is
more correct to be called "happy hardcore"... but that turned off a lot of
the people who loved the first style of hardcore.

The third one I guess can be called hardcore, gabber, speedcore, whatever
you want to call it... I can't really listen to it for too long at a time,
but is good for an occasional larf.  There's some folks on the list here
who spin it, but again, that's not really the major focus of the list.

Now, having been a part of the NE-US scene, the first version of hardcore,
proper hardcore, never really got that much exposure out here, unless you
were going to NASA back in the day -- that's about it.  Good luck trying
to find people that spin it these days (Entropy excluded).  I know Dara of
BBS still spins the occasional oldskool set as well, but he seems to be
more into drum and bass these days.  So probably rather than hearing that
when you started going out you were hearing funky breaks, like Icey and DJ
Dan.  Which is perfectly fine... I guess that's the US variant of
oldskool.  But me, I like my stuff a bit faster and euphoric.  Hence why
I'm on this list -- there's a lot of likeminded folks for whom the music
never really got any better than these glory days of 91-94.  (Of course
that's all subjective, cause there's also some folks on here who will
proudly denounce anything after 1992 as shite.)

In any case -- welcome to the list, and feel free to give some proper
oldskool hardcore  a try.  :)

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy

good luck!!

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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:54:39 -0400, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

> how much meth did you have???


There was "allegedly" just under 1/2 an ounce (14 grams) in my house
(not 
all mine, I had about 4 grams), so they combined it and are trying to
get 
us all for trafficking (14-27 grams).  It's up for indictment, but most 
likely won't get that far once the drug certs come back.


> the states are very harsh with crystal
> right?


It's kinda non-exsistent on the east coast, where I am.  I "allegedly"
also 
had E, shrooms, weed, kollonopins, and neurotin....my 10K laywer said
I'll 
most likely end up with a couple years probation.



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - no kiddie porn

Once again, the rumor about me having kiddie porn is completely made up.


First off, I don't HAVE any kiddie porn, and second of all, even if I DID, 
the police didn't take my computer.









On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:46:35 +0800, Colin Dee <colindee@iprimus.com.au> 
wrote:

> Gotta agree with you there James. Entropy has been getting a hard time as 
> of
> late - no arguments there. However, someone who has had his nads on our
> screens, has been arrested for allegedly possessing meth as well as other
> bits and bobs, it's bound to get mentioned from time to time.
>
> Where I do draw the line though is  pictures of underage children being
> distributed for personal pleasure. My email was a reasonable question.
> Entropy has the right to answer this allegations if he so wishes and also
> has the right to run his life the way that he wishes. I however, do not 
> wish
> to even wish to converse with someone who stores and gets personal
> gratification from images such as those mentioned above. I makes me 
> f**king
> sick.
>
> Colin Dee.
>
> ***
>
> ton 17/7/03 1:30 PM, Harcombe, James at James.Harcombe@health.wa.gov.au
> wrote:
>
>> Actually I thought our man DJ Entropy has been fairly laid back about 
>> some
>> of the sh1t3 said on here.. I think no more needs airing -> or slinging.
>>
>> Innocent until proven guilty.
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - no kiddie porn

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, DJ Entropy wrote:
> Once again, the rumor about me having kiddie porn is completely made up.
>
>
> First off, I don't HAVE any kiddie porn, and second of all, even if I DID,
> the police didn't take my computer.

Yes, but do you have kiddie porn?  :P

Joking, joking.  I dunno why people didn't hear that the first time you
posted to the list that it's just a rumor.  *shrugs again*  But, hey, list
traffic is up!  ;)

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:26:29 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control 
<purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

> In any case -- welcome to the list, and feel free to give some proper
> oldskool hardcore  a try.  :)



Boh boh!  Chris Purity with the plurry welcome!  =P

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - no kiddie porn

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control 
<purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, DJ Entropy wrote:
>> Once again, the rumor about me having kiddie porn is completely made up.
>>
>>
>> First off, I don't HAVE any kiddie porn, and second of all, even if I 
>> DID,
>> the police didn't take my computer.
>
> Yes, but do you have kiddie porn?  :P


I have a picture of me from when I was 3 years old, does that count?  LOL!

http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/ianentropy-3yrsold.jpg

hahaha, check out my shirt.

(yes, it's work safe, jeesuz)


> Joking, joking.  I dunno why people didn't hear that the first time you
> posted to the list that it's just a rumor.  *shrugs again*  But, hey, 
> list
> traffic is up!  ;)


yes, yes it is!  =)



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy - no kiddie porn

entropy what do you think of anabolic frolic??

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control 
<purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, DJ Entropy wrote:
>> Once again, the rumor about me having kiddie porn is completely made 
>> up.
>>
>>
>> First off, I don't HAVE any kiddie porn, and second of all, even if I
>> DID,
>> the police didn't take my computer.
>
> Yes, but do you have kiddie porn?  :P


I have a picture of me from when I was 3 years old, does that count?
LOL!

http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/ianentropy-3yrsold.jpg

hahaha, check out my shirt.

(yes, it's work safe, jeesuz)


> Joking, joking.  I dunno why people didn't hear that the first time 
> you posted to the list that it's just a rumor.  *shrugs again*  But, 
> hey, list traffic is up!  ;)


yes, yes it is!  =)



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> Boh boh!  Chris Purity with the plurry welcome!  =P
> 
> hehehe

It's only cos she's a girl!  We know how moody he is usually ;o)

(Although I did once know a bloke called Kelly, eh Colin?)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) List Gone Quiet + Who Has A Collection of 786 Approved Records?

> Does anyone have an extensive range of 786 Approved tunage?

Ive got all these, but cant really remember them to be much good, so that
must tell u something lol
As I said before, 10,18 and 21 are all wicked.

786 006  Ravin Mad   Addicted/?
786 008  Subculture   Meltdown/Deep space
786 010  Naz AKA Naz   Its started again (2 mixes)
786 011  D Major    Sonata 2 (2 mixes)
786 018  Boomtown Production  Mindforce/Energize
786 019  D Major    One step/Suburbia
786 021  Boomtown Production  All rude boys (2 mixes)
786 023  Krazy Kidz   Vol 1
786 026  Krackpotz   Bungle techno/?

Dest


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) SOUR - Nu Skool Update

> For anyone who hasn't heard this release from SOUR - it's an absolute
> blinder. There are two plates with two tracks on each side and are pretty
> good pressing. Anyhows, I have two copies now so if anyone is willing to
> give me a good trade for it, I'll be happy to see it go to a good home.
>
> Tracks are as follows...
> ** 1996 sour records UK - Nu Skool Update**


Wicked EP, I got mine on a white when it came out, so never knew what the
tunes were!
This is the follow up to Nu Skool Flava, which was also a top LP ;o)

Dest


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) SOUR - Nu Skool Update

Nu Skool Flava (eyes light up). Didn't even know there was another LP Dest.
You got a track listing for it somewhere?

Colin Dee.


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> For anyone who hasn't heard this release from SOUR - it's an absolute
> blinder. There are two plates with two tracks on each side and are pretty
> good pressing. Anyhows, I have two copies now so if anyone is willing to
> give me a good trade for it, I'll be happy to see it go to a good home.
>
> Tracks are as follows...
> ** 1996 sour records UK - Nu Skool Update**


Wicked EP, I got mine on a white when it came out, so never knew what the
tunes were!
This is the follow up to Nu Skool Flava, which was also a top LP ;o)

Dest


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Kev Keenoy wrote:
> > Boh boh!  Chris Purity with the plurry welcome!  =P
> >
> > hehehe
>
> It's only cos she's a girl!  We know how moody he is usually ;o)

Me a moody bastard?  Never!

*hides the black clothes and eyeliner*  *whistles*

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I have metropolis 10 as well
 
Metropolis was an American DJ remix service's hardcore techno
line.didn't do very well and thus only existed in 1992.
Some of the remixes are a little dodgy, but some are good and they're
all club quality pressings (and pretty vinyl!).
 
---chris
 
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Metropolis 10... some crazy ass american compilation on *pink* vinyl
LOL. 
2 x 12 inches with the following tracks... 
Cookin Up - 4 Hero (reinforced) 
Vengance - DMS (prd house) 
Nasty Rhythm - DJ Splix (elicit) 
Can U Dig It - Jem 77 (21 recs) 
Nightmare - Kid Unknown (warp) 
Not Tonight, I'm Tired - Trip (uk white) 
U Said U - Twin Head (uk white) 
He never lost his hardcore - NRG (chill recs.) 
Also got a few others... 
Alex Reece - Feel the Sunshine 
Test 1a-5 
Jonny L - Piper 10 inch 
plus a few others I forget. 
Not baaaaaad, not baaaad at awwwl. 
Colin Dee. 
 
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Yeah - just got home and listened to em Chris. I was unaware that they were
remixes. The person I bought it off failed to mention that. Hmmmmmm. You are
right though - very good pressings indeed. The copy I got came in the
original shrink wrapping which is always nice.

Colin Dee.

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I have metropolis 10 as well

Metropolis was an American DJ remix service's hardcore techno
line.didn't do very well and thus only existed in 1992.
Some of the remixes are a little dodgy, but some are good and they're
all club quality pressings (and pretty vinyl!).

---chris



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) SOUR - Nu Skool Update

> Nu Skool Flava (eyes light up). Didn't even know there was another LP
Dest.
> You got a track listing for it somewhere?

SOURLP006
"Nu Skool Flava"
(2x12")
Elementz of Noise - Flexiwidatek
DJ Kane - The Way It Goes Down
Level II (DJ Trace) - Mid Town Method
Shy FX - Funkindem Up!
MC Det - Stick Up!
Elizabeth Troy - Let Me be (L Double Mix)
Skyscraper - The Difference
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) SOUR - Nu Skool Update

Ahhhh - that would explain the error on the cover of *Nu Skool Update*. It
says includes tracks by Shy-FX, Mc Det etc. but these characters have no
songs on that LP. Now it all makes sense.

So - anyone got a copy of this they would like to part with?

Colin Dee.

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> Nu Skool Flava (eyes light up). Didn't even know there was another LP
Dest.
> You got a track listing for it somewhere?

SOURLP006
"Nu Skool Flava"
(2x12")
Elementz of Noise - Flexiwidatek
DJ Kane - The Way It Goes Down
Level II (DJ Trace) - Mid Town Method
Shy FX - Funkindem Up!
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Elizabeth Troy - Let Me be (L Double Mix)
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Actually, hardcore has died.
But it was good while it lasted!
 
---chris (an outsider)
 
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:35 am
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> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation. 
I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. 
Well actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. 
Kelly - without going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like 
oldschool (although if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
be 
into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before anyone 
starts, 1992 was also a good year!). 
Generally anything ravey from the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang

on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's fine

too. 
Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's most
interest 
in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that sense it's a 
hardcore list. 
And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that you pretty much *must*
agree 
with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will never die!"
to 
be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you doubt
either 
of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider. 
Cheers now, 
Kev. 
 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - no kiddie porn

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:53:03 -0400, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

> entropy what do you think of anabolic frolic??


I think he's total shit.

I'm playing a party with him in upstate NY next month; it should be good 
for a laff, hehe.







> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control 
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>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, DJ Entropy wrote:
>>> Once again, the rumor about me having kiddie porn is completely made 
>>> up.
>>>
>>>
>>> First off, I don't HAVE any kiddie porn, and second of all, even if I
>>> DID,
>>> the police didn't take my computer.
>>
>> Yes, but do you have kiddie porn?  :P
>
>
> I have a picture of me from when I was 3 years old, does that count?
> LOL!
>
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/ianentropy-3yrsold.jpg
>
> hahaha, check out my shirt.
>
> (yes, it's work safe, jeesuz)
>
>
>> Joking, joking.  I dunno why people didn't hear that the first time you 
>> posted to the list that it's just a rumor.  *shrugs again*  But, hey, 
>> list traffic is up!  ;)
>
>
> yes, yes it is!  =)
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
<heino@ku.edu> wrote:

> Actually, hardcore has died.
> But it was good while it lasted!


Where do you live, under a large stone?



> ---chris (an outsider)


Obviously.







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>> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
> I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well 
> actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly - without 
> going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool (although 
> if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
> be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before 
> anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey from 
> the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
>
> on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's fine
>
> too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's most
> interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that sense 
> it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that you 
> pretty much *must*
> agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will never 
> die!"
> to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you doubt
> either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider. 
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Yeah good luck geezer, one day all this nonesense will 
be considered barbaric, like hanging people for 
stealing sheep in the middle ages.

ddh

> good luck!!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:00 AM
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> 
> 
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:54:39 -0400, pukka 
<pukka@rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> > how much meth did you have???
> 
> 
> There was "allegedly" just under 1/2 an ounce (14 
grams) in my house
> (not 
> all mine, I had about 4 grams), so they combined it 
and are trying to
> get 
> us all for trafficking (14-27 grams).  It's up for 
indictment, but most 
> likely won't get that far once the drug certs come 
back.
> 
> 
> > the states are very harsh with crystal
> > right?
> 
> 
> It's kinda non-exsistent on the east coast, where I 
am.  I "allegedly"
> also 
> had E, shrooms, weed, kollonopins, and 
neurotin....my 10K laywer said
> I'll 
> most likely end up with a couple years probation.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

Thanks mate.  :)




On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 18:04:22 GMT, <ddh@primex.co.uk> wrote:

> Yeah good luck geezer, one day all this nonesense will be considered 
> barbaric, like hanging people for stealing sheep in the middle ages.
>
> ddh
>
>> good luck!!
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, July 
>> 17, 2003 1:00 AM
>> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 19:54:39 -0400, pukka
> <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>> > how much meth did you have???
>>
>>
>> There was "allegedly" just under 1/2 an ounce (14
> grams) in my house
>> (not all mine, I had about 4 grams), so they combined it
> and are trying to
>> get us all for trafficking (14-27 grams).  It's up for
> indictment, but most
>> likely won't get that far once the drug certs come
> back.
>>
>>
>> > the states are very harsh with crystal
>> > right?
>>
>>
>> It's kinda non-exsistent on the east coast, where I
> am.  I "allegedly"
>> also had E, shrooms, weed, kollonopins, and
> neurotin....my 10K laywer said
>> I'll most likely end up with a couple years probation.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records
>>
>> -DJ Entropy
>> http://www.djentropy.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - oldskool/hardcore

re. the discussion below, in a way it pains me when I 
hear people use the term "old skool" for music that 
isn't 91-92 hardcore, because even in say '93 or '94 
the music from '91 and '92 was called old skool, and 
hence it is the genre that was first labelled as such. 
In the mid-90's there were events advertised as "back 
to the old skool" because they played music 3 or 4 
years old.

On the other hand as time went by I found myself 
referring to music as "old skool" more because of the 
vibe and feeling of the tunes. Hence music from 1989 
and 1990 joined the old skool genre for me, and yes I 
personally like some of the happy hardcore from '94 
and '95.

Whatever, when people ask me what type of music I like 
I tend to reply "tacky old skool house music", for me 
this means most stuff from 89-95 minus D&B & Gabba 
(though some gabba is ok right?;).

ddh

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Kelly Dorman wrote:
> > As did I - old school does not mean hardcore...if 
it were a hardcore
> > list, shouldnt the title be hardcore rather than 
oldschool??  Just a
> > thought, hmmm?
> >
> >  So whats the deal, does Ian know what he's 
talking about or is he
> > talking with the wrong end again?  Bc, I really 
would rather my mailbox
> > not be filled with hardcore mumblings if I hate 
the music.
> 
> There is a difference, though... when you're saying 
you hate "hardcore",
> what are you thinking?
> 
> 1) 91-94 ruff breakbeats and samples at 140+ BPM?
> 2) 95-2000 stompy fast cheese with divas singing 
about flying over
> rainbows?
> 3) 93-whenever bangbangbangbang hard distorted 
kickdrums with people
> shouting obscenities over the top?
> 
> All of these can be considered "hardcore"... the 
first one is what most
> people on this list are interested in... mainly 
because it was some of the
> most innovative music of the past twenty years, and 
didn't wear out its
> welcome.  People call it oldskool rave, UK hardcore, 
or just plain
> hardcore.
> 
> The second one is generally despised by most, but 
loved by a few, and is
> more correct to be called "happy hardcore"... but 
that turned off a lot of
> the people who loved the first style of hardcore.
> 
> The third one I guess can be called hardcore, 
gabber, speedcore, whatever
> you want to call it... I can't really listen to it 
for too long at a time,
> but is good for an occasional larf.  There's some 
folks on the list here
> who spin it, but again, that's not really the major 
focus of the list.
> 
> Now, having been a part of the NE-US scene, the 
first version of hardcore,
> proper hardcore, never really got that much exposure 
out here, unless you
> were going to NASA back in the day -- that's about 
it.  Good luck trying
> to find people that spin it these days (Entropy 
excluded).  I know Dara of
> BBS still spins the occasional oldskool set as well, 
but he seems to be
> more into drum and bass these days.  So probably 
rather than hearing that
> when you started going out you were hearing funky 
breaks, like Icey and DJ
> Dan.  Which is perfectly fine... I guess that's the 
US variant of
> oldskool.  But me, I like my stuff a bit faster and 
euphoric.  Hence why
> I'm on this list -- there's a lot of likeminded 
folks for whom the music
> never really got any better than these glory days of 
91-94.  (Of course
> that's all subjective, cause there's also some folks 
on here who will
> proudly denounce anything after 1992 as shite.)
> 
> In any case -- welcome to the list, and feel free to 
give some proper
> oldskool hardcore  a try.  :)
> 
> Take care,
> - Chris Purity
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OK...let me revise what I 'should' have said.  The music that was out back then - considerably the only good music back then - was considered hardcore, but musically, I have evolved individually to enjoy breaks, and drum & bass.  Granted I still have some random hardcore tapes and old factory tapes (too bad tapes are almost non-existent now & the quality is too poor to record onto cd) and DB tapes back when he played @ NASA which he was more into the old breakbeats/jungle (which sounds more like 2-step), but was considered jungle back then.
 
So, nowadays when I hear the word hardcore, I think of Jeremy (DJ Delerium).  Not the music from early 90's that was too early to really have any classification..and was just classified Hardcore.  Someone once told me that drum & bass was considered hardcore.  Never delved into that any further.
 
So, now that you see when I said Hardcore, I did mean that music that throbs through your head till you want to chop your ears off.  NOT old UK hardcore...which is how it probably should be classified...considering that most people consider #3 (speedcore, gabber, etc - to people who don't listen to it & know the sub-genres, its all hardcore to us)  ;)  to be hardcore these days....thanks to all the genres that have been created.
 
So I waswasn'taring funky breaks when I first started coming out, but did bear towards the music as it evolved bc it reminded me more of old DB NasNASAys than drum & bass did.  And every once in a while you can catch DB playing an old skool NASA set, but you have to go to a SOE massive to hear it.  Last I heard tho, he would rather play drum & bass.  Not only that, but the fucking stupid ass kids now don't know what ththey'reearing when they hear those ancient tunes & they don't dance, so I don't blame him for not wanting to play it.  Last party @ Limelight - there was NO-ONE dancing during his old skool set, and I was freakin screaming at them from the stage to stop standing around & appreciate the classics.
 
Sorry to chew your ears(?) off, its just good to reminisce with people who aren't just pretending to have partied then...and know what I'm talking about.
 
Thanks Chris for clearing things up...from now on, I will refer to the old tunes as UK hardcore....bc hardcore is just too generalized.
 
Late...
Kelly

Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Kelly Dorman wrote:
> As did I - old school does not mean hardcore...if it were a hardcore
> list, shouldnt the title be hardcore rather than oldschool?? Just a
> thought, hmmm?
>
> So whats the deal, does Ian know what he's talking about or is he
> talking with the wrong end again? Bc, I really would rather my mailbox
> not be filled with hardcore mumblings if I hate the music.

There is a difference, though... when you're saying you hate "hardcore",
what are you thinking?

1) 91-94 ruff breakbeats and samples at 140+ BPM?
2) 95-2000 stompy fast cheese with divas singing about flying over
rainbows?
3) 93-whenever bangbangbangbang hard distorted kickdrums with people
shouting obscenities over the top?

All of these can be considered "hardcore"... the first one is what most
people on this list are interested in... mainly because it was some of the
most innovative music of the past twenty years, and didn't wear out its
welcome. People call it oldskool rave, UK hardcore, or just plain
hardcore.

The second one is generally despised by most, but loved by a few, and is
more correct to be called "happy hardcore"... but that turned off a lot of
the people who loved the first style of hardcore.

The third one I guess can be called hardcore, gabber, speedcore, whatever
you want to call it... I can't really listen to it for too long at a time,
but is good for an occasional larf. There's some folks on the list here
who spin it, but again, that's not really the major focus of the list.

Now, having been a part of the NE-US scene, the first version of hardcore,
proper hardcore, never really got that much exposure out here, unless you
were going to NASA back in the day -- that's about it. Good luck trying
to find people that spin it these days (Entropy excluded). I know Dara of
BBS still spins the occasional oldskool set as well, but he seems to be
more into drum and bass these days. So probably rather than hearing that
when you started going out you were hearing funky breaks, like Icey and DJ
Dan. Which is perfectly fine... I guess that's the US variant of
oldskool. But me, I like my stuff a bit faster and euphoric. Hence why
I'm on this list -- there's a lot of likeminded folks for whom the music
never really got any better than these glory days of 91-94. (Of course
that's all subjective, cause there's also some folks on here who will
proudly denounce anything after 1992 as shite.)

In any case -- welcome to the list, and feel free to give some proper
oldskool hardcore a try. :)

Take care,
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Christopher Landis Shively wrote:
> Actually, hardcore has died.
> But it was good while it lasted!
>
> ---chris (an outsider)

Can't tell whether you're taking the piss or not here.  However, if
hardcore is dead... shit... you might wanna tell folks like Luna-C, Bizzy
B, Austin Reynolds, Joe Nebula, Dave Skywalker, DJ Deluxe, Panacea, Dara,
Sy & Unknown, CLSM, and all the rest of the folks out there who are still
producing stuff that rivals (if not betters) the classic stuff from 10
years ago.  Tell THEM hardcore's dead, and they should give it up.  Go
ahead.  Lemme know how that fares for you.

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Yup - overseas it's a unisex name - but its now leaning towards females.  Thats why my oh-so-smart dad actually named me Kelly Ann as my full 1st name....but PLEASE call me Kelly.

Kev Keenoy <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com> wrote:> Boh boh! Chris Purity with the plurry welcome! =P
> 
> hehehe

It's only cos she's a girl! We know how moody he is usually ;o)

(Although I did once know a bloke called Kelly, eh Colin?)

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Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
past.
It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy it,
and collect it, but it is dead. 
The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in.
Modern hardcore "culture" (if you can call it that) has no cohesion, and
no really distinctive elements to distinguish it from rave culture as a
whole (insipid teeny-bopper tripe that it is).
Other subgenres, however, have subcultures that are distinct from the
greater "rave" culture-think of specifically house or jungle events
you've been to. Think of the growing electroclash culture.
(NOTE: please no huge discussions on the three aforementioned scenes'
merits or lack thereof-the point is not that these are good or bad; only
that they have unique and distinguished cultures, fashions, dances,
slang, and even ritual to an extent).
 
What does the post-98 hardcore culture have in the way of vitality or
cultural currency? Like greater modern rave culture (particularly
stateside), it comprises mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of
history, little maturity or capacity for true musical appreciation, and
instead an appetite for drugs and empty teenage rebellion. Thusly, in
the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm remake of
(fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore".
Similarly, kids that age go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can
hardly say that the culture described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977
is still alive. 
 
Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
original hardcore scene still makes hardcore? 
 
---chris
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:53 pm
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
 
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
<heino@ku.edu> wrote: 
> Actually, hardcore has died. 
> But it was good while it lasted! 
 
Where do you live, under a large stone? 
 
> ---chris (an outsider) 
 
Obviously. 






> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com] Sent:
Thursday, 
> July 17, 2003 4:35 am 
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org 
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy 
> 
>> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation. 
> I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well 
> actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly -
without 
> going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool
(although 
> if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really 
> be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before 
> anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey
from 
> the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang 
> 
> on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's
fine 
> 
> too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's
most 
> interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that
sense 
> it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that
you 
> pretty much *must* 
> agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will
never 
> die!" 
> to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you
doubt 
> either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider. 
> Cheers now, Kev. 
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> unsubscribe, e-mail: oldschool-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For
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having just deleted 50 or so e-mails about entropy, it seems that you now
are no longer talking about him. Any chance you could change the e-mail
subject accordingly, so that i don't miss out on some 'real' oldskool
related topics. ***just a thought**


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy


> Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
> past.
> It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy it,
> and collect it, but it is dead.
> The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
> vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
> school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in.
> Modern hardcore "culture" (if you can call it that) has no cohesion, and
> no really distinctive elements to distinguish it from rave culture as a
> whole (insipid teeny-bopper tripe that it is).
> Other subgenres, however, have subcultures that are distinct from the
> greater "rave" culture-think of specifically house or jungle events
> you've been to. Think of the growing electroclash culture.
> (NOTE: please no huge discussions on the three aforementioned scenes'
> merits or lack thereof-the point is not that these are good or bad; only
> that they have unique and distinguished cultures, fashions, dances,
> slang, and even ritual to an extent).
>
> What does the post-98 hardcore culture have in the way of vitality or
> cultural currency? Like greater modern rave culture (particularly
> stateside), it comprises mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of
> history, little maturity or capacity for true musical appreciation, and
> instead an appetite for drugs and empty teenage rebellion. Thusly, in
> the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm remake of
> (fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
> post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore".
> Similarly, kids that age go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can
> hardly say that the culture described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977
> is still alive.
>
> Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
> original hardcore scene still makes hardcore?
>
> ---chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:53 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively
> <heino@ku.edu> wrote:
> > Actually, hardcore has died.
> > But it was good while it lasted!
>
> Where do you live, under a large stone?
>
> > ---chris (an outsider)
>
> Obviously.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com] Sent:
> Thursday,
> > July 17, 2003 4:35 am
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
> >
> >> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
> > I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well
> > actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly -
> without
> > going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool
> (although
> > if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
> > be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before
> > anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey
> from
> > the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
> >
> > on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's
> fine
> >
> > too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's
> most
> > interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that
> sense
> > it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that
> you
> > pretty much *must*
> > agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will
> never
> > die!"
> > to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you
> doubt
> > either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
> > Cheers now, Kev.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To
> > unsubscribe, e-mail: oldschool-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For
> additional
> > commands, e-mail: oldschool-help@hyperreal.org
>
> -- 
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> -DJ Entropy
> http://www.djentropy.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

to say "Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the past. It is
dead. No longer made. "

is just rubbish. Of course its not the big scene it used to be, but there is
a substantial amount of quality stuff being made. Not "completely
unlistenable trash-corny vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second
hand remixes of old school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in",
but new tracks that stand up on their own and would not sound out of place
at a rave now or 10 years ago. These tunes are genuinely underground, some
of them are very good and original, and most importantly are inspired by the
same sort of passion that the original scene was born out of.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy


> Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
> past.
> It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy it,
> and collect it, but it is dead.
> The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
> vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
> school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in.
> Modern hardcore "culture" (if you can call it that) has no cohesion, and
> no really distinctive elements to distinguish it from rave culture as a
> whole (insipid teeny-bopper tripe that it is).
> Other subgenres, however, have subcultures that are distinct from the
> greater "rave" culture-think of specifically house or jungle events
> you've been to. Think of the growing electroclash culture.
> (NOTE: please no huge discussions on the three aforementioned scenes'
> merits or lack thereof-the point is not that these are good or bad; only
> that they have unique and distinguished cultures, fashions, dances,
> slang, and even ritual to an extent).
>
> What does the post-98 hardcore culture have in the way of vitality or
> cultural currency? Like greater modern rave culture (particularly
> stateside), it comprises mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of
> history, little maturity or capacity for true musical appreciation, and
> instead an appetite for drugs and empty teenage rebellion. Thusly, in
> the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm remake of
> (fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
> post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore".
> Similarly, kids that age go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can
> hardly say that the culture described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977
> is still alive.
>
> Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
> original hardcore scene still makes hardcore?
>
> ---chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:53 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively
> <heino@ku.edu> wrote:
> > Actually, hardcore has died.
> > But it was good while it lasted!
>
> Where do you live, under a large stone?
>
> > ---chris (an outsider)
>
> Obviously.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com] Sent:
> Thursday,
> > July 17, 2003 4:35 am
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
> >
> >> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
> > I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well
> > actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly -
> without
> > going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool
> (although
> > if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
> > be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before
> > anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey
> from
> > the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
> >
> > on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's
> fine
> >
> > too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's
> most
> > interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that
> sense
> > it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that
> you
> > pretty much *must*
> > agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will
> never
> > die!"
> > to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you
> doubt
> > either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
> > Cheers now, Kev.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To
> > unsubscribe, e-mail: oldschool-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For
> additional
> > commands, e-mail: oldschool-help@hyperreal.org
>
> --
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records
> -DJ Entropy
> http://www.djentropy.com
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Already done, my dear.  ;)

Richard Wyatt <rich@jungletekno.com> wrote:having just deleted 50 or so e-mails about entropy, it seems that you now
are no longer talking about him. Any chance you could change the e-mail
subject accordingly, so that i don't miss out on some 'real' oldskool
related topics. ***just a thought**


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Landis Shively" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 7:59 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy


> Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
> past.
> It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy it,
> and collect it, but it is dead.
> The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
> vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
> school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in.
> Modern hardcore "culture" (if you can call it that) has no cohesion, and
> no really distinctive elements to distinguish it from rave culture as a
> whole (insipid teeny-bopper tripe that it is).
> Other subgenres, however, have subcultures that are distinct from the
> greater "rave" culture-think of specifically house or jungle events
> you've been to. Think of the growing electroclash culture.
> (NOTE: please no huge discussions on the three aforementioned scenes'
> merits or lack thereof-the point is not that these are good or bad; only
> that they have unique and distinguished cultures, fashions, dances,
> slang, and even ritual to an extent).
>
> What does the post-98 hardcore culture have in the way of vitality or
> cultural currency? Like greater modern rave culture (particularly
> stateside), it comprises mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of
> history, little maturity or capacity for true musical appreciation, and
> instead an appetite for drugs and empty teenage rebellion. Thusly, in
> the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm remake of
> (fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
> post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore".
> Similarly, kids that age go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can
> hardly say that the culture described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977
> is still alive.
>
> Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
> original hardcore scene still makes hardcore?
>
> ---chris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:53 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively
> wrote:
> > Actually, hardcore has died.
> > But it was good while it lasted!
>
> Where do you live, under a large stone?
>
> > ---chris (an outsider)
>
> Obviously.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com] Sent:
> Thursday,
> > July 17, 2003 4:35 am
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
> >
> >> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
> > I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well
> > actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly -
> without
> > going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool
> (although
> > if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
> > be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before
> > anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey
> from
> > the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
> >
> > on-topic. Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's
> fine
> >
> > too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's
> most
> > interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era. In that
> sense
> > it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that
> you
> > pretty much *must*
> > agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will
> never
> > die!"
> > to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community. If you
> doubt
> > either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
> > Cheers now, Kev.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> To
> > unsubscribe, e-mail: oldschool-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For
> additional
> > commands, e-mail: oldschool-help@hyperreal.org
>
> -- 
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records
> -DJ Entropy
> http://www.djentropy.com
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"unappreciative teens with no sense of history, little maturity or
capacity for true musical appreciation, and instead an appetite for
drugs and empty teenage rebellion"

hmmm sounds just like me when I started raving in 88. guess we all have
to start somewhere. ;) -- k

-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Landis Shively [mailto:heino@ku.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:00 PM
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy


Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
past. It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy
it, and collect it, but it is dead. 
The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in. Modern hardcore
"culture" (if you can call it that) has no cohesion, and no really
distinctive elements to distinguish it from rave culture as a whole
(insipid teeny-bopper tripe that it is). Other subgenres, however, have
subcultures that are distinct from the greater "rave" culture-think of
specifically house or jungle events you've been to. Think of the growing
electroclash culture.
(NOTE: please no huge discussions on the three aforementioned scenes'
merits or lack thereof-the point is not that these are good or bad; only
that they have unique and distinguished cultures, fashions, dances,
slang, and even ritual to an extent).
 
What does the post-98 hardcore culture have in the way of vitality or
cultural currency? Like greater modern rave culture (particularly
stateside), it comprises mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of
history, little maturity or capacity for true musical appreciation, and
instead an appetite for drugs and empty teenage rebellion. Thusly, in
the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm remake of
(fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore". Similarly, kids that age
go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can hardly say that the culture
described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977 is still alive. 
 
Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
original hardcore scene still makes hardcore? 
 
---chris
 
 
 
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
<heino@ku.edu> wrote: 
> Actually, hardcore has died.
> But it was good while it lasted! 
 
Where do you live, under a large stone? 
 
> ---chris (an outsider)
 
Obviously. 






> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com] Sent:
Thursday, 
> July 17, 2003 4:35 am
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org 
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy 
> 
>> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
> I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well
> actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly -
without 
> going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool
(although 
> if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
> be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before 
> anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey
from 
> the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
> 
> on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's
fine 
> 
> too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's
most 
> interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that
sense 
> it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that
you 
> pretty much *must*
> agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will
never 
> die!"
> to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you
doubt 
> either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
> Cheers now, Kev. 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!! 

He's a cheeky bugger, he won 11 of my tunes, came to £76 total, he wants me
to send them for free and knock £6 off the final prices. he's going on
holiday now and didn't say when he gets back. God damn the cheek!! He's sent
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!! 

wow, what a cheeky fucker!!!

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> He's a cheeky bugger, he won 11 of my tunes, came to £76 total, he wants
me
> to send them for free and knock £6 off the final prices. he's going on
> holiday now and didn't say when he gets back. God damn the cheek!! He's
sent
> me £70 thru paypal!!
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore will never die

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Christopher Landis Shively wrote:
> Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
> past.
> It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy it,
> and collect it, but it is dead.

Please see my previous e-mail for examples to the contrary.  MANY
examples.  Yes -- people are still making it.  No -- it's not all
"completely unlistenable trash-corny vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit
trancecore, second hand remixes of old school tracks, and other such
second-rate cashing in".  See: KFA, Brain II, Nu Underground, Raw
Elements, Panic Project, CLSM, Warehouse Wax, Re-Birth, and many other
labels.  The revival isn't just coming -- it's already here.

> Similarly, kids that age go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can
> hardly say that the culture described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977
> is still alive.

No, I can.  In fact, isn't there basically the same attitude?  Instead of
"hardcore will never die", it's "punk's not dead".  For every Sum 41 or
New Found Glory, there's a dozen garage bands that play at tiny little
venues and will never have any fame, who will release a shitload of 7"s in
runs of 100-200 at a time.

> Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
> original hardcore scene still makes hardcore?

Because not everyone can afford to.  But again, see my posts... they're
still out there.  And in addition to those original crews, there's plenty
of new producers doing stuff in the old style (myself included).  If you
really think that hardcore's dead... in the words of Mixrace... "Too bad
for ya".


Oh -- and for the record -- I liked it when they sampled pop tunes the
first time around, and even when they did it to themselves -- IE SMD,
Naughty Naughty, VW, 4 The Floor, Question Mark.  I still like it today if
I hear a good cover / remix of a pop favorite.  Does that make it any less
hardcore?  Open your mind.


Take care,
- Chris Purity

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hardcore will live forever !!!!!!!!
just not the cheesy shit 
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Subject: (oldschool) Fwd: Old Skool @ A.L.I.A.S. tonight! $4 Reduced list (DC heads)

> Boh.  Hit me up tonight by 6pm with your full name and i'll put ya on ze 
> cheap list!
>
> infoooo:
>
> This week at Nation:  [07.17] The DCdnb.org crew sets up shop.  This 
> organization, comprised of several long-standing and well-respected 
> figures in the local d'n'b scene, offers a variety of d 'n' b styles 
> mixed with the utmost finesse.  The goal of their site is to keep the DC 
> DnB scene up to date with the latest drum'n'bass news on several 
> different levels.  Look for release info, music links, event updates, 
> etc.  Be sure to check out the local, national, and global links. 
> http://www.dcdnb.org/www_dcdnb/index.htm  Charm City's Wish shares her 
> dedication to the breaks scene with her first A.L.I.A.S. appearance.  
> Also tonight is the Haujobb CD release party, spanning drum 'n' bass 
> breaks and more.  Get to the club before 10 p.m., for the open bar and 
> the 2 for 1 admission price...
>
> Next week [07.24] is the first ALIAS old skool party - "Kicks Like A 
> Mule".  Hear the musical roots of jungle/drum'n'bass and follow its 
> yearly progression in the course of one night!  Expect classic records 
> that will appeal to people beyond the drum 'n' bass scene:  Joey 
> Beltram's techno classic "Mentasm" gave d 'n' b its most identifiable 
> trademark sound.  Techno/house artist Outlander on R & S records 
> unleashed "Vamp" in early 1991, with riff-like stabs of future-sound that 
> follow right behind "Mentasm" as another signature drum 'n' bass 
> identifier.  But it's the classic late '91 - '93 era of UK breakbeat 
> hardcore that really transformed the music into an entirely new monster.  
> Long-standing drum 'n' bass record labels were born during this era and 
> are still active today:  Formation, Moving Shadow, Metalheadz, Reinforced 
> and others.  Expect to hear the classic anthems from Prodigy, Messiah and 
> 2 Bad Mice, but more importantly, expect to hear the more turbulent, 
> junglized tunes of the time that are a source of inspiration to many of 
> today's d 'n' b producers.  "Forgotten" records that sound just as fresh 
> to the ears of junglists and breakbeat junkies now as they did a decade 
> ago, prophetically they've constructed the ultimate übermensch of EDM in 
> this post-rave, post-superstar-DJ era - the supreme survivor  - drum 'n' 
> bass!
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
> ------
> "We  are  the  secret  of  the  Universe.   We  know  of  spice . . . the 
> spice  called  melange . . . the  greatest  treasure  in  the  Universe.  
> It  exists  on  only  one  planet  -  ours  -  Arrakis,  Dune.
>
>
>
> We  know  of  spice  and  the  Bene  Gesserit  sisterhood's  selective  
> breeding  plan  of ninety  generations  to  produce  the  Kwisatz  
> Haderach,  the  one  the  spice  will  awaken"   The  Supreme  Being!
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
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>
> a.. a.l.i.a.s.@alchemy » drum'n'bass.jungle.breaks.electro « b.. thursday 
> nights » alchemy@NATION » alchemy's current music format will not change 
> » a.l.i.a.s. dj's will provide an additional "spice" to the party «
>
>
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>
>
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>
> a.. hours:  » 9 p.m. - 3 a.m. » 18 & over w/gov't-issued photo i.d. « b.. 
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> d.. entrance on thursdays » thru SIDE doors by main bathrooms «
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
> ------
>
> a.. thur. 07.17.03 » b.. dcdnb.org takeover » ransom | bobby jae | mrn + 
> wish [breaks] «
>
>
>
> a.. thur. 07.24.03 » b.. "kicks like a mule" old skool night [the classic 
> records that spawned jungle/d'n'b] » john tab | locks & luis «
>
>
>
> a.. thur. 07.31.03 » b.. "yo, keep the 'titts & arse" off the [round] 
> table please! » "titts & arse" vs. round table dj's simetra & j me «
>
>
>
> a.. thur. 08.07.03 » b.. "lost in bass tour" w/ db & know:el | + [top 
> local producers] delta force «
>
>
>
> a.. thur. 08.14.03 » b.. transformers vs. decepticons w/ mampi swift | 
> john tab | hue-e [formerly evil-e] «
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>
>
> ------
>
> a.. resident a.l.i.a.s. dj's » john tab, jesse tittsworth, brian arse, 
> odj « b.. more info » alias_agent_johntab@mac.com or for full alchemy 
> lineups:  http://www.alchemy-dc.com/index.php c.. alchemy@nation 
> nightclub » 1015 half st. se » washington, dc «
>
>
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>
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>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> OK...let me revise what I 'should' have said.  The music that was out 
> back then - considerably the only good music back then - was considered 
> hardcore,


No, it wasn't "considered" Hardcore, it *IS* Hardcore.


> DB tapes back when he played @ NASA which he was more into the old 
> breakbeats/jungle (which sounds more like 2-step), but was considered 
> jungle back then.


Nope, NASA was a Hardcore night.


> So, nowadays when I hear the word hardcore, I think of Jeremy (DJ 
> Delerium).


That's not Hardcore!  That's gabber!  Gabber =/= Hardcore!


> Not the music from early 90's that was too early to really have any 
> classification..


"Too early"?!  What are you smokin, sister?


> Someone once told me that drum & bass was considered hardcore.


Of course it is!  A high percentage of the original Hardcore producers are 
still making sped-up breakbeat/bassline/ravey tunes (which is what Hardcore 
is), and it's just now called "drum n bass".






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A note to Kelly-ignore Entropy.
He just likes making fuss and starting arguments.
 
A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes!
We don't quibble over terminology for your bad haircut or stupid candy
necklaces.
 
---Chris absolutely loves trouble
 
 
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote: 
> OK...let me revise what I 'should' have said.  The music that was out 
> back then - considerably the only good music back then - was
considered 
> hardcore, 
 
No, it wasn't "considered" Hardcore, it *IS* Hardcore. 
 
> DB tapes back when he played @ NASA which he was more into the old 
> breakbeats/jungle (which sounds more like 2-step), but was considered 
> jungle back then. 
 
Nope, NASA was a Hardcore night. 
 
> So, nowadays when I hear the word hardcore, I think of Jeremy (DJ 
> Delerium). 
 
That's not Hardcore!  That's gabber!  Gabber =/= Hardcore! 
 
> Not the music from early 90's that was too early to really have any 
> classification.. 
 
"Too early"?!  What are you smokin, sister? 
 
> Someone once told me that drum & bass was considered hardcore. 
 
Of course it is!  A high percentage of the original Hardcore producers
are 
still making sped-up breakbeat/bassline/ravey tunes (which is what
Hardcore 
is), and it's just now called "drum n bass". 





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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:33:55 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
<heino@ku.edu> wrote:

> A note to Kelly-ignore Entropy.
> He just likes making fuss and starting arguments.


I just like talking about 
Hardcore/OldSkool/DrumNBass/Breakbeat/whateveritiscalledthismonth


> A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes!



Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is an 
innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is 
utter nonsensical crap.







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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

> > A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes!
>
>
>
> Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is an
> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is
> utter nonsensical crap.

well I dont like it much, and neither do you, but I'm sure someone who does
liek gabba would disagree, and quite possibly label what you like as
"nonsensical crap". Everything is just a bloody noise to those who dont like
it.



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Calling modern happy hardcore hardcore is an insult to proper hardcore
too, if you ask me.
Some people probably think calling Entropy a DJ is an insult to proper
DJs.
Everybody has different tastes, and you are neither the arbiter of what
it good nor the referee of proper genre name designation.
So cool it, mister.
 
---chris
 
 
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:33:55 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
<heino@ku.edu> wrote: 
> A note to Kelly-ignore Entropy. 
> He just likes making fuss and starting arguments. 
 
I just like talking about 
Hardcore/OldSkool/DrumNBass/Breakbeat/whateveritiscalledthismonth 
 
> A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes! 
 
Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is
an 
innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is

utter nonsensical crap. 






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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:42:38 +0100, Soopaslooth <soopaslooth@f2s.com> 
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> Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is
>> an
>> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is
>> utter nonsensical crap.
>
> well I dont like it much, and neither do you, but I'm sure someone who 
> does
> liek gabba would disagree, and quite possibly label what you like as
> "nonsensical crap". Everything is just a bloody noise to those who dont 
> like it.


True, and my personal feelings towards Gabber shouldn't come into play 
here; but the fact does remain that it certainly is not Hardcore.




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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:43:37 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
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> Calling modern happy hardcore hardcore is an insult to proper hardcore
> too, if you ask me.


I agree to some extent; happy hardcore does hurt the Hardcore scene, but it 
still is a form of Hardcore, beyond a reasonable doubt.


> Some people probably think calling Entropy a DJ is an insult to proper
> DJs.


And I'm sure some people think that calling you a human is an insult to the 
human race as well.


> Everybody has different tastes, and you are neither the arbiter of what
> it good nor the referee of proper genre name designation.
> So cool it, mister.


No thanks.




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Subject: (oldschool) 147 tunes for sale

Hey all
just wondered if anyones interested in any of the tunes below for sale
before i start sticking them on ebay
All for sale or trade

Sound clips can be done for any tunes if not sure what they are

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Some of you ragga heads that aren't on the ragga list may enjoy this.  :)


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From: JAMIE SAUNDERS <preacherschurch@hotmail.com>
To: ragga-jungle@ragga-jungle.com
Subject: [ragga-jungle] Â“Old Skool vs New SkoolÂ”  Ragga dubs galore mix
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 07:17:23 +0000

> â€œOld Skool vs New Skoolâ€ Ragga dubs galore mix
>
> http://www.jungleforever.com/audio/sets/Preecha_- 
> _Old%20Skool%20vs%20New%20Skool%20mix.mp3
>
> This is a ragga mix I did to help promote the new scene thatâ€™s developing 
> and to give ever increasing insight into the world of old school jungle.
>
> Tracklisting:
>
> -Jungle Monster Preecha Jungle Forever â€œwww.jungleforever.comâ€
> -1995 Flavor-Dj Vern and Ash
> -Kunta Kinte Remix-Tester-Trilogy Sound 
> â€œwww.geocities.com/raggaholik/testerâ€
> -Never Felt-Hard and Heavy
> -Right Sound-UOME-X13 Recordings â€œwww.x13recordings.com/â€
> -Pass De Dub-Darkus and GE Real
> -Revolution-Sensi Breeze â€œhttp://www.geocities.com/sensi_breeze/â€
> -Donâ€™t Dis the King-Brock Out Crew
> -Solider-Debaser-Press Up â€œdebaser@rogers.comâ€
> -Fires Burning-Stepper D, Lynx, Therapist
> -See You No More â€œ2004â€ Remix-KGB Kid â€œwww.kgbkid.com/tunes.htmâ€
> -Give Um Lyrics-Twix Twins
> -Bam Bam Remix-Steppa Style â€œwww.steppastyle.comâ€
> -Jah Jah Is Coming-Lion King
> -Out in The Streets Remix-Sensi Breeze â€œThe one and only Jungle Bastardâ€
> Pirates-???
> -Fu Gee La Remix-Wrekshot â€œwrekshot@hotmail.comâ€
> ???-??? â€œYagga Yagga
> -Lyrical Fire Amoe rmx-General Malice-Junglistic Pressure Kru 
> â€œwww.junglisticpressure.com/â€
> -Only Play By Bad Bwoy-Bad Bwoy
> -Serious and Dangerous-Polytrickster â€œpreecha@jungleforever.com
> -Who God Bless â€œJunglistâ€-???
>
> Special thanks and big up to all the producers who contributed to this 
> 2003 mix. I â€œhighlyâ€ suggest you check out the links to these new school 
> ragga kats. Spreading the messageâ€¦ bless
>
> For more mixes:
> http://www.jungleforever.com/audio/sets/
> For any inquiries:
> preecha@jungleforever.com
>
>
> FYI Im looking for more producers to feature on upcoming mixesâ€¦
>
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Oh yeah? Well I'm rubber, and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces
off me and sticks to you.
And PS: when it comes to nominating a list member as an insult to the
human race, I'm pretty sure most people would pick mr. methamphetamine
trafficker over usually-quiet Midwestern student boy.
 
---chris
 
 
And I'm sure some people think that calling you a human is an insult to
the 
human race as well. 
 
 

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:30 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
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> Oh yeah? Well I'm rubber, and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces
> off me and sticks to you.
> And PS: when it comes to nominating a list member as an insult to the
> human race, I'm pretty sure most people would pick mr. methamphetamine
> trafficker over usually-quiet Midwestern student boy.


Sure thing, Pasty McRedneck.


LOL.


Ok, I'm done, haha.





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yaaaaaaaaaaawn

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> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:30 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
> <heino@ku.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Oh yeah? Well I'm rubber, and you're glue, and whatever you say bounces
> > off me and sticks to you.
> > And PS: when it comes to nominating a list member as an insult to the
> > human race, I'm pretty sure most people would pick mr. methamphetamine
> > trafficker over usually-quiet Midwestern student boy.
> 
> 
> Sure thing, Pasty McRedneck.
> 
> 
> LOL.
> 
> 
> Ok, I'm done, haha.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Pasty McRedneck?
Just because somebody is Midwestern doesn't mean they are a cornfed
backwoods toothless farmboy.
You're from Massachusetts-are you a child-molesting Irish Catholic
clergy?
 
---chris
 
 
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:30 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
<heino@ku.edu> wrote: 
> Oh yeah? Well I'm rubber, and you're glue, and whatever you say
bounces 
> off me and sticks to you. 
> And PS: when it comes to nominating a list member as an insult to the 
> human race, I'm pretty sure most people would pick mr. methamphetamine

> trafficker over usually-quiet Midwestern student boy. 
 
Sure thing, Pasty McRedneck. 
 
LOL. 
 
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on 17/7/03 2:31 PM, Harcombe, James at James.Harcombe@health.wa.gov.au
wrote:

> I got no argument with proven kiddy fiddlers getting a kick up the bum
> Colin. My sz 13 stands ready for any guilty party.
> 
> But I don't think its right to air any allegations on a list like this.
> 
> Once again, innocent until proven guilty - unfair is allegations without
> evidence.

True James - true. I think it's only fair to leave Entropy answer those
allegations himself.

Colin Dee.


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on 18/7/03 6:00 AM, Christopher Landis Shively at heino@ku.edu wrote:

> Pasty McRedneck?
> Just because somebody is Midwestern doesn't mean they are a cornfed
> backwoods toothless farmboy.
> You're from Massachusetts-are you a child-molesting Irish Catholic
> clergy?
> 
> ---chris


Chris.

You are getting well out of hand now boyo. Either take it privaye style or
chill T F O.

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>From: "Ian" <ian_soord@iinet.net.au>
>Whats happened to the list? Its gone very quiet.
>I remember when you used to receive a 100 odd email a day.

u were sayin Ian?

happy now?

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>From: "Ian" <ian_soord@iinet.net.au>
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>I remember when you used to receive a 100 odd email a day.

u were sayin Ian?

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy - no kiddie porn

dont let him take away american dj jobs


ban him from your country again

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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:53:03 -0400, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

> entropy what do you think of anabolic frolic??


I think he's total shit.

I'm playing a party with him in upstate NY next month; it should be good

for a laff, hehe.







> -----Original Message-----
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> July
> 17, 2003 7:50 AM
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>
>
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 04:46:11 -0700 (PDT), Purity Control
> <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, DJ Entropy wrote:
>>> Once again, the rumor about me having kiddie porn is completely made
>>> up.
>>>
>>>
>>> First off, I don't HAVE any kiddie porn, and second of all, even if 
>>> I DID, the police didn't take my computer.
>>
>> Yes, but do you have kiddie porn?  :P
>
>
> I have a picture of me from when I was 3 years old, does that count? 
> LOL!
>
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/ianentropy-3yrsold.jpg
>
> hahaha, check out my shirt.
>
> (yes, it's work safe, jeesuz)
>
>
>> Joking, joking.  I dunno why people didn't hear that the first time 
>> you
>> posted to the list that it's just a rumor.  *shrugs again*  But, hey,

>> list traffic is up!  ;)
>
>
> yes, yes it is!  =)
>
>
>



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Thanx sweetie - Like I said, I have been on lists before that he was on - he's the same on all of them.  Honestly, I dont know how he has enough time in his day to type to so many lists & messageboards and be 'the biggest hardcore dj in the US'.  HA!

Christopher Landis Shively <heino@ku.edu> wrote:A note to Kelly-ignore Entropy.
He just likes making fuss and starting arguments.

A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes!
We don't quibble over terminology for your bad haircut or stupid candy
necklaces.

---Chris absolutely loves trouble


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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
wrote: 
> OK...let me revise what I 'should' have said. The music that was out 
> back then - considerably the only good music back then - was
considered 
> hardcore, 

No, it wasn't "considered" Hardcore, it *IS* Hardcore. 

> DB tapes back when he played @ NASA which he was more into the old 
> breakbeats/jungle (which sounds more like 2-step), but was considered 
> jungle back then. 

Nope, NASA was a Hardcore night. 

> So, nowadays when I hear the word hardcore, I think of Jeremy (DJ 
> Delerium). 

That's not Hardcore! That's gabber! Gabber =/= Hardcore! 

> Not the music from early 90's that was too early to really have any 
> classification.. 

"Too early"?! What are you smokin, sister? 

> Someone once told me that drum & bass was considered hardcore. 

Of course it is! A high percentage of the original Hardcore producers
are 
still making sped-up breakbeat/bassline/ravey tunes (which is what
Hardcore 
is), and it's just now called "drum n bass". 





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> Actually, hardcore has died.
> But it was good while it lasted!
>
> ---chris (an outsider)

You ARE taking the piss aren't you?!

I can understand how you might think that a couple years ago, but I have
three bonkers cds, two hardcore heaven cds, plus a couple dozen tracks
bought from i-tunes and imo in the past two months that tell me otherwise.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) I beat rockabe!! 

Tell him where to shove it I reckon.

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> wow, what a cheeky fucker!!!
>
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> > He's a cheeky bugger, he won 11 of my tunes, came to £76 total, he wants
> me
> > to send them for free and knock £6 off the final prices. he's going on
> > holiday now and didn't say when he gets back. God damn the cheek!! He's
> sent
> > me £70 thru paypal!!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore

Ive said this once before, and i'll say it again!

Hardcore NEVER died!!

For some it seemed to, but really they are the ones that caused it to
themselves.
They went off in the new worlds of house, garage, Ibiza related stuff. Afew
years later they find out people are still listening
to/mixing/collection/producing hardcore and seem to think its had a revival.
Hardcore has always been there, it certainly has for me!
Ive been listening to it since 92 and its certainly not died or made a come
back.
How can something make a comeback if it never went in the first place ;o)

(To avoid argument, the term hardcore in this instance means breakbeat
hardcore/oldskool from 92 onwards!)

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OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I know thats not going to work.  I also tried to keep clicking on find more sources - to no avail.  I know that users are online because it happens with all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 users.
 
So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any suggestions short of throwing my comp out the window will help  =)
 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

Try using soulseek insetad.
www.slsk.org

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> OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try
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download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I know
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all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 users.
>
> So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any suggestions short of throwing my comp
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Right - deep breath

Firstly i cannot write nearly as much on this as I'd want to as I'm at work,
but suffice to say this is a greatly simplified version of what I want to
say...

>> Actually, hardcore has died.
>> But it was good while it lasted!
>"Can't tell whether you're taking the piss or not here.  However, if
hardcore is dead... shit... you might wanna tell folks like Luna-C, Bizzy
B, Austin Reynolds, Joe Nebula, Dave Skywalker, DJ Deluxe, Panacea, Dara,
Sy & Unknown, CLSM, and all the rest of the folks out there who are still
producing stuff that rivals (if not betters) the classic stuff from 10
years ago.  Tell THEM hardcore's dead, and they should give it up.  Go
ahead.  Lemme know how that fares for you."

Completely agree with you there Chris (Purity). Happy Hardcore WAS dead,
cheesy vocal-pop-ripoff happy hardcore IS dead, but hardcore as a whole
certainly is very much alive and kicking. Since the beginning of 2002
attendances have become higher, elements from hard house have been
introduced to increase the popularity of freeform style hardcore, and the
'94/'95 breakbeat hardcore style has become popular again - the first of the
new style breakbeat hardcore tunes happened to be released at the end of
2001/beginning of 2002, called killerwhale, by a certain DJ Skywalker (ie -
ME). Perhaps in America hardcore is dead? Certainly not here. Elation this
friday in London looks to be rammed as ever.

>"Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the past.
It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy it, and
collect it, but it is dead."

No, wrong, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, yes, yes, yes, wrong. I particularly like
your point "no longer made". Nu underground recordings (my label), KFA,
Elation, CLSM, Indiscriminate, Panic Project, B2VOS, Stoopid, Phase4,
Electronic, i could go on... fair enough, sales aren't anywhere near what
they were in the mid 90s. If you collect hardcore, i suggest you try these
labels ;)

>"The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in."

I refer you to my above answer. You may be confused to think that the new
breakbeat hardcore in particular are "second hand remixes", but they're
mostly, if not all, new.

"Like greater modern rave culture (particularly stateside), it comprises
mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of history."

I agree, but kids as always live for the moment, back in 1988 they would
have been only three years old!

"Thusly, in the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm
remake of
(fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore""

If you're on about crappy happy hardcore remixes of 99 red balloons or
whatever, that was like 5 years ago, and DID kill the happy hardcore scene.
If you're talking about stuff like that now, are you only listening to
Scooter?!!

"Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is an
innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is
utter nonsensical crap."

If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost popularity
over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!

..and back to work before my boss looks over again and kills me..
Dave


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

> "unappreciative teens with no sense of history, little maturity or
> capacity for true musical appreciation, and instead an appetite for
> drugs and empty teenage rebellion"
>
> hmmm sounds just like me when I started raving in 88. guess we all have
> to start somewhere. ;) -- k

LOL good point pukka.

And apologies to all... I dunno, I write some stupid throwaway comment about
having to believe "Hardcore will never die", go away overnight and just look
at the fuss its all started.

And I've said it before Chris (not Purity), whatever problem you have with
Entropy isn't to do with this list so why not keep it off list.  Everyone's
entitled to they're opinions and if they're opinions about the music then
they can be aired here.  Attack the opinions all you like but just because
someone says something you don't agree with isn't a reason to launch a
personal attack.  And if you really must launch a personal attack at least
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore

The hardcore will never die?

Of course it wont, the true hardcore was the start of somthing
special and has been ever since. Its a shame it got messed up along the
way with super club land & protentious people with shinney shoes.

Id agree that allot of the promoters & Djs about have lost the scene of the
hardcore
and free spirit associated with the real rave culture.

Early last year I started to organise the castlemorton reunion party
as it was ten years since that mighty gathering took palce in 92. For those
that dont know it was the biggest illegal rave this country (u.k) had ever
seen
and even seen way to the implementation of the criminal justice act.

Any way back to my point, I contacted practically all the main stream
oldskool promoters
and well know PAs and Djs from back in the day, and  guess what not one of
them was interested
in helping out unless there was money invloved which was not the point of
the free party
being organised. What does that tell you about a scene that was built upon
the very vibe of free
spirit?

I was gutted because the very thing I lived for had raised doubts in my
head, and I thought
every git and his dog were only interested in money.

Well that turned out not to be the case as the party (FEELING-OF-LIFE GOLDEN
PARTY) I organised took place over the jubliee
weekend and turned out to be the biggest illegal rave this country had seen
in 10 years with
over 14,000 poeple attending from all over the world and sound systems form
all over europe
including people from original sprial tribe etc.

It did actually prove to my self that no the hardcore is very much alive and
kicking in this country
you just got to know where to find it. Like every week of the year you will
always be able to find a proper hardcore night
just like in the good old days, they are just not in clubs thats all, and i
tell you one thing for sure is that the oldskool
being played at such parties is spot on.

The whole peace love unity thing is going strong still to this day

So any body that says hardcore is dead is full of crap.

The orginal vibe is still out there, just get out of the clubs and stop
listening to Gayrage music.

Right thats enuff my my shit box contribution to this debate,

PLUR

Chris














-----Original Message-----
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Ive said this once before, and i'll say it again!

Hardcore NEVER died!!

For some it seemed to, but really they are the ones that caused it to
themselves.
They went off in the new worlds of house, garage, Ibiza related stuff. Afew
years later they find out people are still listening
to/mixing/collection/producing hardcore and seem to think its had a revival.
Hardcore has always been there, it certainly has for me!
Ive been listening to it since 92 and its certainly not died or made a come
back.
How can something make a comeback if it never went in the first place ;o)

(To avoid argument, the term hardcore in this instance means breakbeat
hardcore/oldskool from 92 onwards!)

Dest


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Biggest hardcore dj in the u.s
Grow up sort it out and get your head from up your ass

You Hardcore super star Dj

Is there any original old skool on this list like
the British hardcore crew who used to love to sniff
vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis?


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 18 July 2003 08:30
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Thanx sweetie - Like I said, I have been on lists before that he was on -
he's the same on all of them.  Honestly, I dont know how he has enough time
in his day to type to so many lists & messageboards and be 'the biggest
hardcore dj in the US'.  HA!

Christopher Landis Shively <heino@ku.edu> wrote:A note to Kelly-ignore
Entropy.
He just likes making fuss and starting arguments.

A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes!
We don't quibble over terminology for your bad haircut or stupid candy
necklaces.

---Chris absolutely loves trouble


-----Original Message-----
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman
wrote:
> OK...let me revise what I 'should' have said. The music that was out
> back then - considerably the only good music back then - was
considered
> hardcore,

No, it wasn't "considered" Hardcore, it *IS* Hardcore.

> DB tapes back when he played @ NASA which he was more into the old
> breakbeats/jungle (which sounds more like 2-step), but was considered
> jungle back then.

Nope, NASA was a Hardcore night.

> So, nowadays when I hear the word hardcore, I think of Jeremy (DJ
> Delerium).

That's not Hardcore! That's gabber! Gabber =/= Hardcore!

> Not the music from early 90's that was too early to really have any
> classification..

"Too early"?! What are you smokin, sister?

> Someone once told me that drum & bass was considered hardcore.

Of course it is! A high percentage of the original Hardcore producers
are
still making sped-up breakbeat/bassline/ravey tunes (which is what
Hardcore
is), and it's just now called "drum n bass".





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> a good old dennis the mennis?
Hm  yes!  Lovely...a snip at £20 a go and I thought the guy was doing me a
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Yes but for £20 youd only need one not like
the 8 - 9 pills you would need today just to scratch the
surface.

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> a good old dennis the mennis?
Hm  yes!  Lovely...a snip at £20 a go and I thought the guy was doing me a
favour still!



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> Is there any original old skool on this list like
> the British hardcore crew who used to love to sniff
> vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis?


Yes, the Vaporub was definitly being utilised when I started going to a
regular event in '92 =)

Dest


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

Kazaa is karap! Heh heh!
I've switched to SoulSeek recently and it's a Godsend.
I've found more old school tunes in the last week than I have in the
last year or so.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Friday, 18 July 2003 4:28
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Subject: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!! (!@#$% Kazaa)

OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try
to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for
download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I
know thats not going to work.  I also tried to keep clicking on find
more sources - to no avail.  I know that users are online because it
happens with all files and it happens with files that are being used by
up to 20 users.
 
So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any suggestions short of throwing my
comp out the window will help  =)
 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

Try K++ instead? Its what i use and its sweeeeeeeet as.

(also known as kazaa lite)

Dave


> OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try
> to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for
> download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I
> know thats not going to work.  I also tried to keep clicking on find
> more sources - to no avail.  I know that users are online because it
> happens with all files and it happens with files that are being used by
> up to 20 users.
>  
> So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any suggestions short of throwing my
> comp out the window will help  =)
>  
> Thx...K.
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

> Try K++ instead? Its what i use and its sweeeeeeeet as.

I use that too, never had any probs at all ;o)
Also doesnt have that nasty spywear either (yuck!)


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Oh yeah don't get me wrong I wasn't complaining.
I'd still pay £20 now for a proper old new yorker.

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> Yes but for £20 youd only need one not like
> the 8 - 9 pills you would need today just to scratch the
> surface.
>
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> > a good old dennis the mennis?
> Hm  yes!  Lovely...a snip at £20 a go and I thought the guy was doing me a
> favour still!
>
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Subject: (oldschool) RE: Hear Me Hear Me - Hixxy?


Thanks guys but just had a listen to the Poosie and Cru-l-t version and
it=92s a little too drum n bassish.
The version Ive heard has more of a synth sound, more happy hardorish.

Whats the Hixxy one called?



=A0
-------Original Message-------
=A0
From: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Date: Thursday, 17 July 2003 7:20:44=20
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) On A Happy Hardcore Tip....
=A0
I know hixxy did a tune with this vocal in.
=A0
And I did, but it was never released, so it wouldn't be that.... It made
it
as far as dubplate.
=A0
The original is on Kniteforce - Poosie and Cru-l-t - Hear me.
=A0
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 4:54 PM
Subject: (oldschool) On A Happy Hardcore Tip....
=A0
=A0
Another one for ya's.....
=A0
Anyone know of a Happy Hardcore tune, circa 1994/5 with female vocal
sample:
=A0 "open your mind and your eyes will see me, me, me....."
=A0
An absolute wicked tune!!!!!
=A0
I really need this one so if any of you have mates that are Happy Hard
fans,
could you please ask them for me!!
Cheers all!
Ian




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Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore
is an 
innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber
is 
utter nonsensical crap
**********************

Hey! A lot of early gabber was very UK influenced (and the other way
around too).  It had breaks and hoovers and chipmunks.  Heard
Rotterdam Termination Source - Poing (yeah, cheesy, but illustrates my
point)?  Wedlock - I'm the Fuck You Man is a lot ravier than a lot of
the jungle floating around at the time.  So while gabber today may
have little to do with "hardcore" so does modern happy hardcore.


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Subject: (oldschool) How much would you pay for this?

Global Method - Vibe Tribe EP

A1 Good Life (Orbital Remix)
A2 Good Life (Original)

B1 Mars Needs Women (DJ Seduction Remix)
B2 Mars Needs Women (Original)

Cat # GM1

Less than 1000 copies pressed...

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:42:33 +0100, Kev Keenoy 
<kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com> wrote:

> And if you really must launch a personal attack at least make it funny 
> rather than just bitter.


That's the single best sentence I've read on a mailing list in a *long* 
time.

=)




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

Go with soulseek or winmx:

http://www.slsk.org
http://www.winmx.com


If you're on soulseek, look for the "OLDSKOOL8894" room; a lot of us chill 
in there from time to time.




On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 01:27:59 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
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> OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try 
> to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for 
> download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I 
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> with all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 
> users.
> So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any suggestions short of throwing my comp 
> out the window will help  =)
> Thx...K.
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

but theres no porn on soulseek :)


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> Try using soulseek insetad.
> www.slsk.org
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> > OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try
> to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for
> download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I
know
> thats not going to work.  I also tried to keep clicking on find more
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with
> all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 users.
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Subject: (oldschool) record hunting, today's results

Afternoon people.
I had a job interview in London this morning, and decided to spend the
rest of the day hunting down some old skool tunes. Here are the results.

First off, Soho is officaly now shit for old skool, either its crap
vinyl or they are =A320+++

Beanos in Croydon.
Hundreds of old skool tunes, but I had them all, worth a visit. But they
had a Hear Say single in the classic dance section. Hahahaha.

THE INVISIBLE MEN EP
ORBITAL RECORDS 004
=A35, wicked Universe anthem from 1991

DAVID MORALES ft FACE
NEEDIN U (original usa issue)
=A35, not old skool but a classic tune

JAZZY JEFF V's HYBRID
SUMMERTIME REMIX
=A35, wicked breaks remix from 1999, not old skool but a classic tune


HMV in Oxford Street.

LION ROCK
PACKET OF PEACE REMIXES
=A35.49

TANGO & RATTY
TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE
=A36.49

RABBIT CITY 3
=A36.49

Right, since when did HMV stock bootleg old skool, they now have a large
section full of all the official represses and some blatant illegal
bootlegs, 4 track eps style. The bastards.
Well if your after some old skool check it out, they had Rabbit City
001, 003 & 004, loads of Basement, LOADS of Slammin Vinyl, and loads of
Jungle Drum'n'Bass classics all 'repressed'.
And whats with price? HMV charging =A36.49 for a tune? I blame ebay.

Respect.

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> And whats with price? HMV charging £6.49 for a tune? I blame ebay.


How much are tunes usually in London?

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) record hunting, today's results

First week of release chart 12" are =A31.99, then =A33.50
Most non chart tunes are =A34.99


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> And whats with price? HMV charging =A36.49 for a tune? I blame ebay.


How much are tunes usually in London?

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Thanks!
I try to do my best...

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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:42:33 +0100, Kev Keenoy 
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> > And if you really must launch a personal attack at least make it funny 
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> First week of release chart 12" are £1.99, then £3.50
> Most non chart tunes are £4.99


Oh wow, that's pretty inexpensive.




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>
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:03:52 +0100, duncandettmer 
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>> And whats with price? HMV charging £6.49 for a tune? I blame ebay.
>
>
> How much are tunes usually in London?
>
> Domestic over here is usually 6-7 USD, imports are 9-10 USD.
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) record hunting, today's results

I live near croydon, am a confirmed Beanos abuser :)

they do have a fair bit of oldskool, I picked up the unreleased Shadow 46
for £4 recently :) Mostly they do get the prices right though, so your
unlikely to get much of a bargain there.


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Subject: (oldschool) record hunting, today's results


Afternoon people.
I had a job interview in London this morning, and decided to spend the
rest of the day hunting down some old skool tunes. Here are the results.

First off, Soho is officaly now shit for old skool, either its crap
vinyl or they are £20+++

Beanos in Croydon.
Hundreds of old skool tunes, but I had them all, worth a visit. But they
had a Hear Say single in the classic dance section. Hahahaha.

THE INVISIBLE MEN EP
ORBITAL RECORDS 004
£5, wicked Universe anthem from 1991

DAVID MORALES ft FACE
NEEDIN U (original usa issue)
£5, not old skool but a classic tune

JAZZY JEFF V's HYBRID
SUMMERTIME REMIX
£5, wicked breaks remix from 1999, not old skool but a classic tune


HMV in Oxford Street.

LION ROCK
PACKET OF PEACE REMIXES
£5.49

TANGO & RATTY
TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE
£6.49

RABBIT CITY 3
£6.49

Right, since when did HMV stock bootleg old skool, they now have a large
section full of all the official represses and some blatant illegal
bootlegs, 4 track eps style. The bastards.
Well if your after some old skool check it out, they had Rabbit City
001, 003 & 004, loads of Basement, LOADS of Slammin Vinyl, and loads of
Jungle Drum'n'Bass classics all 'repressed'.
And whats with price? HMV charging £6.49 for a tune? I blame ebay.

Respect.

Duncan


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) record hunting, today's results


ill second this geezer

First off, Soho is officaly now shit for old skool, either its crap
>vinyl or they are £20+++


i go to uni at ucl. so its 10mins walk

in 1st year i used to go 3 times a week n nearly always get something <5 
quid! that was wicked,
dont think ive got nething from there for over a year now


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>From: "duncandettmer" <duncandettmer@blueyonder.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>CC: "'Mark Crnow'" <mark.curnow@blueyonder.co.uk>
>Subject: (oldschool) record hunting, today's results
>Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 18:03:52 +0100
>
>Afternoon people.
>I had a job interview in London this morning, and decided to spend the
>rest of the day hunting down some old skool tunes. Here are the results.
>
>First off, Soho is officaly now shit for old skool, either its crap
>vinyl or they are £20+++
>
>Beanos in Croydon.
>Hundreds of old skool tunes, but I had them all, worth a visit. But they
>had a Hear Say single in the classic dance section. Hahahaha.
>
>THE INVISIBLE MEN EP
>ORBITAL RECORDS 004
>£5, wicked Universe anthem from 1991
>
>DAVID MORALES ft FACE
>NEEDIN U (original usa issue)
>£5, not old skool but a classic tune
>
>JAZZY JEFF V's HYBRID
>SUMMERTIME REMIX
>£5, wicked breaks remix from 1999, not old skool but a classic tune
>
>
>HMV in Oxford Street.
>
>LION ROCK
>PACKET OF PEACE REMIXES
>£5.49
>
>TANGO & RATTY
>TALES FROM THE DARKSIDE
>£6.49
>
>RABBIT CITY 3
>£6.49
>
>Right, since when did HMV stock bootleg old skool, they now have a large
>section full of all the official represses and some blatant illegal
>bootlegs, 4 track eps style. The bastards.
>Well if your after some old skool check it out, they had Rabbit City
>001, 003 & 004, loads of Basement, LOADS of Slammin Vinyl, and loads of
>Jungle Drum'n'Bass classics all 'repressed'.
>And whats with price? HMV charging £6.49 for a tune? I blame ebay.
>
>Respect.
>
>Duncan
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Course there is.

>vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis

Get head tingles just thinking about it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian_Reason [mailto:info@feeling-of-life.co.uk] 
Sent: 18 July 2003 10:33
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Biggest hardcore dj in the u.s
Grow up sort it out and get your head from up your ass

You Hardcore super star Dj

Is there any original old skool on this list like
the British hardcore crew who used to love to sniff
vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis?


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Sent: 18 July 2003 08:30
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Thanx sweetie - Like I said, I have been on lists before that he was on
-
he's the same on all of them.  Honestly, I dont know how he has enough
time
in his day to type to so many lists & messageboards and be 'the biggest
hardcore dj in the US'.  HA!

Christopher Landis Shively <heino@ku.edu> wrote:A note to Kelly-ignore
Entropy.
He just likes making fuss and starting arguments.

A note to Entropy-let the new person call it what she likes!
We don't quibble over terminology for your bad haircut or stupid candy
necklaces.

---Chris absolutely loves trouble


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:30 pm
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On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:40:42 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman
wrote:
> OK...let me revise what I 'should' have said. The music that was out
> back then - considerably the only good music back then - was
considered
> hardcore,

No, it wasn't "considered" Hardcore, it *IS* Hardcore.

> DB tapes back when he played @ NASA which he was more into the old
> breakbeats/jungle (which sounds more like 2-step), but was considered
> jungle back then.

Nope, NASA was a Hardcore night.

> So, nowadays when I hear the word hardcore, I think of Jeremy (DJ
> Delerium).

That's not Hardcore! That's gabber! Gabber =/= Hardcore!

> Not the music from early 90's that was too early to really have any
> classification..

"Too early"?! What are you smokin, sister?

> Someone once told me that drum & bass was considered hardcore.

Of course it is! A high percentage of the original Hardcore producers
are
still making sped-up breakbeat/bassline/ravey tunes (which is what
Hardcore
is), and it's just now called "drum n bass".





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Yo people,

Check my new tune version Beta. Gimme comments pleaze:)

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Sorry, forgot the link:))

http://su.lt/~spyefex/emery/

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Yo people,

Check my new tune version Beta. Gimme comments pleaze:)

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I ABSOLUTELY LOVE YOU GUYS!!!  I have been dling tunes all day - and if you want some porn, you can always dl from me  ;)  my id on soulseek is supapimpny - i have some jenna jameson, shanes world, houston, and pam & tommy vid.
 
Much love to you Kev for the info!!  I hate having to buy an entire cd for just one song if its not out on single.
 
XOXO
K.
 

Soopaslooth <soopaslooth@f2s.com> wrote:
but theres no porn on soulseek :)


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> Try using soulseek insetad.
> www.slsk.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kelly Dorman" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 9:27 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!! (!@#$% Kazaa)
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> to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for
> download' . I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I
know
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> sources - to no avail. I know that users are online because it happens
with
> all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 users.
> >
> > So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions short of throwing my
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> out the window will help =)
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And the puddles got all creative with it by burning the vicks inhaler tubes & blowing it in peoples faces - even when I wasnt at my best, I never figured out the facsination in that.  I will always despise that smell.
 
And in the US - the brooklyn bombs, aka moons, were the most wicked to this day.

DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Is there any original old skool on this list like
> the British hardcore crew who used to love to sniff
> vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis?


Yes, the Vaporub was definitly being utilised when I started going to a
regular event in '92 =)

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> And in the US - the brooklyn bombs, aka moons, were the most wicked to 
> this day.


Brooklyn Bombers =/= Moons

Moons were wafers (half dollar size) that were two hits each, brookly 
bombers were just good pills.




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its called thumper on legendary limited records only a 1000 copies =
apparently cat is legltd002, although it says these are the "about time =
too remixes" so might be an original out there somewhere but its not on =
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A bit too late to ask but would like to know what every thinks about
Vinyl Connection.

Are they genuine? Anyone had any problems with orders from them?

Ive already placed and order with them and after being charged for the
items I've found them still listed for sale, plus they've been reduced
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Have I made a big mistake?

 

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no way mate, gary is well sound, he does have a lot of records to deal with
and hence makes it very hard to give swift respsonses all the time. he's
100% safe.



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> A bit too late to ask but would like to know what every thinks about
> Vinyl Connection.
>
> Are they genuine? Anyone had any problems with orders from them?
>
> Ive already placed and order with them and after being charged for the
> items I've found them still listed for sale, plus they've been reduced
> in price from 10 to 8 pound. Ive tried contacting them but have had no
> response.
>
>
>
> Have I made a big mistake?
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vinyl Connection - Are these guys genuine?

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003, Ian wrote:
> A bit too late to ask but would like to know what every thinks about
> Vinyl Connection.
>
> Are they genuine? Anyone had any problems with orders from them?
>
> Ive already placed and order with them and after being charged for the
> items I've found them still listed for sale, plus they've been reduced
> in price from 10 to 8 pound. Ive tried contacting them but have had no
> response.

I've placed several orders with them in the past, Gary (the bloke who runs
VC) is a sound fellow, always get the tunes in top condition within a week
(keep in mind I'm in the States).  I know every now and again he does
price drops on his stock to clear out back stuff, and perhaps the reason
that you're still seeing some of the titles that you ordered there may be
because he had multiple copies for sale.  I dunno where he gets them from
but I've noticed the same thing happening to titles I order -- but I
always end up getting them in the end.

In any case, you shouldn't worry mate, he's all right.

Take care,
- Chris Purity

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vinyl Connection - Are these guys genuine?

I'v ordered from this site loads and never had any problems. Always very
quick delivery and Gary who runs it is very helpful and friendly. Yeah the
price drop thing is annoying, I had it happen to me when they went down to
12.50, and then again when they went to 10, had placed an order right before
both of these price drops!! C'est la vie I guess, you agree to buy it for an
advertised price then thats what you pay imho.


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> A bit too late to ask but would like to know what every thinks about
> Vinyl Connection.
>
> Are they genuine? Anyone had any problems with orders from them?
>
> Ive already placed and order with them and after being charged for the
> items I've found them still listed for sale, plus they've been reduced
> in price from 10 to 8 pound. Ive tried contacting them but have had no
> response.
>
>
>
> Have I made a big mistake?
>
>
>
> Ian
>
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188
ltj bukum 91/92 unknown from sterns.

this is the one to id,if clarkee is still on this site maybe you can =
help,i thin you sampled it for one of your tunes on the hava a good time =
12" on d/paradox.i think windmill did to on the same label.
thanks in advance.
zak.
this is the website addy for the clip ,its on oldskool city's site no =
188.
http://www.oldskoolcity.com/ids/

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dye Witness - Only If I Had One More

That, and those of us using PINE for our email have to jump through hoops
in order to read it.


> Sorry to be a grump guys but can we refrain from sending HTML emails? They
> are a breeding ground for viruses and other nasty bits. I've asked Dest
> about it as I've never know the list to send these out before.
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin Dee.
> 
> ***
> 
> 
> on 15/7/03 5:16 PM, Ian at ian_soord@iinet.net.au wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dave.
> Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but not
> the same tune.
>  
> Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
> perhaps?
>  
> Cheers!
> 
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I got those emails with no content, but 2 attachments, one ASCII, one
HTML.


> Colin, the html emails dont actually make it to the list, what happened is 
> that the list AND your email addy was in the To: line, so you got two 
> copies:  one from the list in text, and one to yourself in html (therefore 
> not going through the lists html-converting software)
> 
> :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:17:59 +0800, Ian <ian_soord@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> > Colin mate,
> >
> > I wasnt aware my emails were being sent as HTML.
> >
> > Found the switch in my email client and have changed to text only.
> >
> > Sorry for the concern.
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > -------Original Message-------
> >
> >
> >
> > From: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >
> > Date: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 5:43:43
> >
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dye Witness - Only If I Had One More
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry to be a grump guys but can we refrain from sending HTML emails? 
> > They
> >
> > are a breeding ground for viruses and other nasty bits. I've asked Dest
> >
> > about it as I've never know the list to send these out before.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Colin Dee.
> >
> >
> >
> > ***
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > on 15/7/03 5:16 PM, Ian at .net.au wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks Dave.
> >
> > Just had a listen to this one. Its the correct time stretched sample but 
> > not
> >
> > the same tune.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone else? Is there a remix of Dye Witnesses 'Only If Had One More'
> >
> > perhaps?
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Aside from above... happy to introduce myself, I'm Kelly.  Live in NY - been partying since late 93-early 94 - 1st party was Bliss @ Octagon (weekly by Alan Sanctuary).  Was on NE-Raves List under supapimpny@yahoo, but that has since died, still dont know where it went.  Im pretty damn friendly & love any kind of breaks so email my ass if you know of a slammin breaks party comin up - I hate to have to go north to hear good breaks.  Also went to my 1st trance fest (usually hate trance, but I had a fucking BLAST @ that Omnifest one last month) - so if you know of any coming up def give me a shout.

I was on NER too, for a number of years, until I moved to the west coast
in '99...stayed on the list for a while after, but eventually couldn't
keep up with that and WNYSOR and North-West Raves and this list and
breakslist and a buncha others, so I left some of them.

I went through a number of different email addresses with that
list...dj_damaja@hotmail.com, dneproductions@hotmail.com, and some other
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> Also, FYI - hit reply to all & the post almost got sent to the list 3 times - anyone have that problem besides me?

Had that problem with Netscape webmail. Why I hit reply, it would reply
only to the individual who sent the mail I was replying to. But if I hit
reply to all, it would send it to that person, and to the list, and also
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Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that was 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.  While they were big, they certartainly were no 1/2 dollar size.  hehe - So YOU must have been one of those people I heard bought a half for a whole's price!

Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 17:28:43 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
wrote:

> And in the US - the brooklyn bombs, aka moons, were the most wicked to 
> this day.


Brooklyn Bombers =/= Moons

Moons were wafers (half dollar size) that were two hits each, brookly 
bombers were just good pills.




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> > Also Ian - the key word in your sentence is ARGUABLY - I despise 
> > hardcore, gives me a headache -
> 
> 
> Then why are you on this list?  This is a Hardcore list.

No, it's an oldskool list. There's other oldskool besides hardcore.


> 
> 
> 
> > but even I know that you certainly are not the biggest hardcore DJ in the 
> > US.  Have you ever played NYC as a headliner???
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, a number of times.
> 
> 
> And since when is NYC the pinnacle of Hardcore DJing???  There isn't a 
> single Hardcore DJ *in* NYC (besides the jungle/dnb guys, of course).
> 
> 
> 
> 
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mate you aint lived
The right pill with a bit of vicks and the
piano chorus and noddy land hear you come

rusha boom boom

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And the puddles got all creative with it by burning the vicks inhaler tubes
& blowing it in peoples faces - even when I wasnt at my best, I never
figured out the facsination in that.  I will always despise that smell.

And in the US - the brooklyn bombs, aka moons, were the most wicked to this
day.

DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Is there any original old skool on this list like
> the British hardcore crew who used to love to sniff
> vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis?


Yes, the Vaporub was definitly being utilised when I started going to a
regular event in '92 =)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - oldskool/hardcore

But even in around 87-88, old electro/rap, and 70's punk, were both called
oldschool. 


> re. the discussion below, in a way it pains me when I 
> hear people use the term "old skool" for music that 
> isn't 91-92 hardcore, because even in say '93 or '94 
> the music from '91 and '92 was called old skool, and 
> hence it is the genre that was first labelled as such. 
> In the mid-90's there were events advertised as "back 
> to the old skool" because they played music 3 or 4 
> years old.
> 
> On the other hand as time went by I found myself 
> referring to music as "old skool" more because of the 
> vibe and feeling of the tunes. Hence music from 1989 
> and 1990 joined the old skool genre for me, and yes I 
> personally like some of the happy hardcore from '94 
> and '95.
> 
> Whatever, when people ask me what type of music I like 
> I tend to reply "tacky old skool house music", for me 
> this means most stuff from 89-95 minus D&B & Gabba 
> (though some gabba is ok right?;).
> 
> ddh
> 
> > On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Kelly Dorman wrote:
> > > As did I - old school does not mean hardcore...if 
> it were a hardcore
> > > list, shouldnt the title be hardcore rather than 
> oldschool??  Just a
> > > thought, hmmm?
> > >
> > >  So whats the deal, does Ian know what he's 
> talking about or is he
> > > talking with the wrong end again?  Bc, I really 
> would rather my mailbox
> > > not be filled with hardcore mumblings if I hate 
> the music.
> > 
> > There is a difference, though... when you're saying 
> you hate "hardcore",
> > what are you thinking?
> > 
> > 1) 91-94 ruff breakbeats and samples at 140+ BPM?
> > 2) 95-2000 stompy fast cheese with divas singing 
> about flying over
> > rainbows?
> > 3) 93-whenever bangbangbangbang hard distorted 
> kickdrums with people
> > shouting obscenities over the top?
> > 
> > All of these can be considered "hardcore"... the 
> first one is what most
> > people on this list are interested in... mainly 
> because it was some of the
> > most innovative music of the past twenty years, and 
> didn't wear out its
> > welcome.  People call it oldskool rave, UK hardcore, 
> or just plain
> > hardcore.
> > 
> > The second one is generally despised by most, but 
> loved by a few, and is
> > more correct to be called "happy hardcore"... but 
> that turned off a lot of
> > the people who loved the first style of hardcore.
> > 
> > The third one I guess can be called hardcore, 
> gabber, speedcore, whatever
> > you want to call it... I can't really listen to it 
> for too long at a time,
> > but is good for an occasional larf.  There's some 
> folks on the list here
> > who spin it, but again, that's not really the major 
> focus of the list.
> > 
> > Now, having been a part of the NE-US scene, the 
> first version of hardcore,
> > proper hardcore, never really got that much exposure 
> out here, unless you
> > were going to NASA back in the day -- that's about 
> it.  Good luck trying
> > to find people that spin it these days (Entropy 
> excluded).  I know Dara of
> > BBS still spins the occasional oldskool set as well, 
> but he seems to be
> > more into drum and bass these days.  So probably 
> rather than hearing that
> > when you started going out you were hearing funky 
> breaks, like Icey and DJ
> > Dan.  Which is perfectly fine... I guess that's the 
> US variant of
> > oldskool.  But me, I like my stuff a bit faster and 
> euphoric.  Hence why
> > I'm on this list -- there's a lot of likeminded 
> folks for whom the music
> > never really got any better than these glory days of 
> 91-94.  (Of course
> > that's all subjective, cause there's also some folks 
> on here who will
> > proudly denounce anything after 1992 as shite.)
> > 
> > In any case -- welcome to the list, and feel free to 
> give some proper
> > oldskool hardcore  a try.  :)
> > 
> > Take care,
> > - Chris Purity
> > 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vinyl Connection - Are these guys genuine?

ive ordered loads from em and they are always to me within a few days in
pristine condition

i always wait for the price drop before i order
seems he keeps buying collections of records every month or so

i know loads of other guys who order from him too and they are very happy

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> A bit too late to ask but would like to know what every thinks about
> Vinyl Connection.
>
> Are they genuine? Anyone had any problems with orders from them?
>
> Ive already placed and order with them and after being charged for the
> items I've found them still listed for sale, plus they've been reduced
> in price from 10 to 8 pound. Ive tried contacting them but have had no
> response.
>
>
>
> Have I made a big mistake?
>
>
>
> Ian
>
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy

Haven't had a chance to rave in the US, but in Canada, rave is made of all
kinds, from young high school kids, some with an appreciation of the music
and its history, some without, to hippies, both original and neo, to
current or ex-b-boys, to people who got started in the early days of
house, to casual clubbers aka barstars, to techno purists, emos, goths,
music lovers, sociologists, to socialites, to queens and fairies, to
gabbers and punks, to old(ish) geezers like me, to junglists, to rastas,
to ethnic cliques which I won't name because the terms are somewhat
offensive, to hiphoppers, to grandparents (or people old enough to be
grandparents), to candyravers, to plain old dedicated ravers.

True, some ravers are as described below, but there are an equal number
who are the opposite.

Around here, the appreciation of oldskool is fairly limited, but growing.
Apart from DJs Brent Carmichael (who manages a local club showcasing house
and techno, and has been spinning about as long as I've been alive (I'm
27)) and Rennie "Dubnut" Foster, and myself, only 2 or 3 others have a
solid knowledge of oldskool, but numerous other DJs have come to me asking
about various oldskool genres, from hardcore to acid house to electro, and
I've helped many other people to build a taste for oldskool as well
(although I have yet to actually spin at a rave here on the Island).

 >
"unappreciative teens with no sense of history, little maturity
or > capacity for true musical appreciation, and instead an appetite for
> drugs and empty teenage rebellion"
> 
> hmmm sounds just like me when I started raving in 88. guess we all have
> to start somewhere. ;) -- k

Ya, most people who start raving start out like that. I was nearly 19 when
I went to my first one, and I was quite anti-drug at the time, but in love
with the music, so I didn't really go that way. But I know most people
going to their first rave tend toward that stereotype, and usually within
6 months they'll either drop out of the rave scene, or change.



> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Landis Shively [mailto:heino@ku.edu] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 3:00 PM
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Entropy
> 
> 
> Are you kidding? Hardcore, as it was in 1990-1995, is a thing of the
> past. It is dead. No longer made. Caput. We can still love it, and enjoy
> it, and collect it, but it is dead. 
> The new stuff is, for the most part, completely unlistenable trash-corny
> vocal rip-off tunes, bullshit trancecore, second hand remixes of old
> school tracks, and other such second-rate cashing in. Modern hardcore
> "culture" (if you can call it that) has no cohesion, and no really
> distinctive elements to distinguish it from rave culture as a whole
> (insipid teeny-bopper tripe that it is). Other subgenres, however, have
> subcultures that are distinct from the greater "rave" culture-think of
> specifically house or jungle events you've been to. Think of the growing
> electroclash culture.
> (NOTE: please no huge discussions on the three aforementioned scenes'
> merits or lack thereof-the point is not that these are good or bad; only
> that they have unique and distinguished cultures, fashions, dances,
> slang, and even ritual to an extent).
>  
> What does the post-98 hardcore culture have in the way of vitality or
> cultural currency? Like greater modern rave culture (particularly
> stateside), it comprises mostly unappreciative teens with no sense of
> history, little maturity or capacity for true musical appreciation, and
> instead an appetite for drugs and empty teenage rebellion. Thusly, in
> the new hardcore scene a DJ can play some god awful 175bpm remake of
> (fill in a bad pop song from the '80s-99 luftballoons will work for this
> post's purposes) and it passes as "hardcore". Similarly, kids that age
> go to pop-punk shows en masse, but one can hardly say that the culture
> described by the word "punk" in, say. 1977 is still alive. 
>  
> Finally, Entropy-don't you ever wonder why practically NOBODY from the
> original hardcore scene still makes hardcore? 
>  
> ---chris
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:53 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy
>  
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:31:12 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
> <heino@ku.edu> wrote: 
> > Actually, hardcore has died.
> > But it was good while it lasted! 
>  
> Where do you live, under a large stone? 
>  
> > ---chris (an outsider)
>  
> Obviously. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com] Sent:
> Thursday, 
> > July 17, 2003 4:35 am
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org 
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy 
> > 
> >> Nooooo. Please don't start this conversation.
> > I think I just did, but won't say another word on the matter. Well
> > actually it was Entropy who started it... don't blame me. Kelly -
> without 
> > going into detail yes you're fine on here if you like oldschool
> (although 
> > if you `started partying in 93-94' you should really
> > be into hardcore... those were the glory days!)... (and yes, before 
> > anyone starts, 1992 was also a good year!). Generally anything ravey
> from 
> > the period about '87-'95ish counts as bang
> > 
> > on-topic.  Some people may argue for earlier/later stuff and that's
> fine 
> > 
> > too. Entropy is by no means way off the mark though because there's
> most 
> > interest in classic hardcore and jungle about '91-'94 era.  In that
> sense 
> > it's a hardcore list. And it's also a hardcore list in the sense that
> you 
> > pretty much *must*
> > agree with the propositions "We are hardcore!" and "Hardcore will
> never 
> > die!"
> > to be an accepted member of the oldschool list community.  If you
> doubt 
> > either of these things then you're gonna be considered an outsider.
> > Cheers now, Kev. 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

It may not be Hardcore, but it's fucking hardcore.

> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 22:42:38 +0100, Soopaslooth <soopaslooth@f2s.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is
> >> an
> >> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is
> >> utter nonsensical crap.
> >
> > well I dont like it much, and neither do you, but I'm sure someone who 
> > does
> > liek gabba would disagree, and quite possibly label what you like as
> > "nonsensical crap". Everything is just a bloody noise to those who dont 
> > like it.
> 
> 
> True, and my personal feelings towards Gabber shouldn't come into play 
> here; but the fact does remain that it certainly is not Hardcore.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) 147 tunes for sale

I'd be interested in pretty much all of them, but I'll be unemployed as of
tuesday, so I can't buy loads of rekkids again until I get another job, or
get some good contract work or something. I'm also running out of space
for rekkids.

 > Hey all
> just wondered if anyones interested in any of the tunes below for sale
> before i start sticking them on ebay
> All for sale or trade
> 
> Sound clips can be done for any tunes if not sure what they are
> 
> Let us know
> Many thanx
> 
> All the best
> Ben
> http://www.insanevinyl.co.uk
> 
> 
> 2 BAD MICE    BOMBSCARE    MOVING SHADOW 014    HOLD IT DOWN - WAREMOUSE - 2 
> BAD MICE REMIX
> 
> 2 KILOS ?    MOHAMED'S MIND - LET YOURSELF GO    RADIOACTIVE LAMB    THE 
> DREAM - DOWN THE FARM
> 
> 3RD PARTY    SCREW FACE PART 2 "HARDCORE MIX"     3RD PARTY 010 "LIMITED 
> EDITION"    SCREW FACE PART 3 "MELLOW MIX"
> 
> 808    CUBIK OLYMPIC REMIX     ZTT 005    COWBOY MIX +1 MORE
> 
> A HOMEBOY, A HIPPE & A FUNKY DREAD    WORK IT OUT REMIX     TAM TAM D.J 
> Pre-Release    Inc; The brotherhood mix & The love party mix
> 
> ACEN    CLOSE YOUR EYES REMIXES     PRODUCTION HOUSE 34R    OPTIKONFUSION 
> &THE SEQUEL
> 
> ADAM F    PROPHET OF GOD    DEEP JUNGLE    B = ENCHANTED
> 
> ADAM F    THE BIBLE    SECTION 5 "006"    B = DIGITAL AIR & JUST A DREAM
> 
> ADAM F    STRONGER THAN EVER 12"    LUCKY SPIN "ADM 004"    LIGHT YEARS + 
> SEA OF DESTINY
> 
> ADVOCATES & DANCE MASTER    LIGHT IN DARK SITUATIONS     ADVOCATE RECORDS 
> 002    Push it to the limit / I am crazy / Big up dem chest / Over the top
> 
> APHRODITE    SUB GROOVE    APHRODITE 012    B = SHINE
> 
> APHRODITE & DJ PHANTASY    YOU TAKE ME UP    URBAN WAX 001    B = OPEN YOUR 
> MIND "DRUM FURY"
> 
> ASEND & ULTRAVIBE    REAL LOVE    BACK 2 BASICS 018    B = JUST A LITTLE
> 
> BAD GIRL    BAD GIRL E.P    IBIZA 018    HARDCORE - JUNGLE & RADIO MIXES
> 
> BAY B KANE    DARK & DELICIOUS II E.P     KICMAN 008    HEALIN OF THE NATION 
> - BUBBLE FOR ME - MEL'C MURDER - B'IN E'NGLAND, F'IN NGLAND
> 
> BEDOUIN ASCENT    RUTHLESS COMPASSION + EMBRACE    RISING HIGH 042    B = 
> BEDOUIN ASCENT & TREDING THE EARTH
> 
> BIZARRE INC    PLAYING WITH KNIVES     VINYL SOULUTION "STORM 35"    
> QUADRANT MIX
> 
> BLACK ASS     THE CONCEPTION E.P    CHILL "TUV 28"    COSMOLOGY - TIME 
> STRETCH - FORBIDDEN - SCRATCH THESE
> 
> BLINDED BY SCIENCE    SCANNERS     BASEMENT RECORDS 038    AFTERLIFE
> 
> CITADEL OF KAOS    PART III    BOOMBASTIC PLASTIC 003    URBANITY - YELLOW 
> MOONSHINE - SEARCHIN 4 GOLD - IT'S NOT OVER
> 
> CHIMERIA    DEEPER LIFE    BACK 2 BASICS 014    JACOBS LADDER
> 
> CODE BLUE    ANGELS IN DUB    DEE JAY 017    B = ANGELS IN RHYTHM
> 
> CONSCIOUS    SEARCHIN     CSC 001    B = JUMP TO IT
> 
> COOLHAND FLEX    MERCY MERCY    IN TOUCH RECORDS 002    B = LEGAL RIGHTS
> 
> DA INTALEX    WHAT YA GONNA DO    FLEX RECORDS 001    B = NICE & SLOW
> 
> DEEP BLUE    THE HELICOPTER TUNE     MOVING SHADOW 041    FANTASY 1 -2 -3
> 
> DEFENDER    KENNY'S JAM    GYROSCOPE 006    B = ROLLIN & FEEL IT
> 
> D-FORCE    ORIGINAL BAD BOY E.P    SLAMMIN VINYL "RAR 002"    B = RUFF & 
> STEP UP GENERAL
> 
> DIGITAL    TOUCH ME    TIMELESS 009    AGONY & ORIGINAL MIXES
> 
> DILLINJA    DEADLY DEEP SUBS    DEADLY VINYL 003    CALCULUS
> 
> DJ CL & ISOLENT BWOY    AMEN - LIVES AGAIN E.P    24 CAROT GOLD 003    
> CRIMINAL - NEED YOU - CRIMINAL 2
> 
> DJ FREEZE    KOOL TO BE KLEER     FULL EFFECT 106    NEWYORKER MIX & E-UP 
> BONUS BEATS 1 'N' 2
> 
> DJ KRUST    JAZZ NOTE    V RECORDINGS 006    B = BURNING
> 
> DJ LJT    unknown?    KIN 002    FEATURING KINETIC "WHITE LABEL"
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> DJ MASSIVE    ENTER THE BAD BOY E.P     LABELLO BLANCO 030    ANOTHER RIPPER 
> - FROM BEYOUND - IT KEEPS CALLIN - GETTIN BUSY - DRUM THUNDER
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> DJ PESHAY    PROTEGE E.P    REINFORCED 048    WARNING - DREAMS - GANGSTER - 
> ON THE FIRM
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> DJ PHANTASY    THE NU GROOVE "ORIGINAL MIX"    LIQUID WAX "HAN 130"    B =DJ 
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> DJ SOLO & DJ ROSSIE    INNA STRENGTH    FX RECORDINGS 002    B = SURESHOT
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> DJ SS    THE ROLLERS CONVENTION part 1     FORMATION RECORDS 048    THE 
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> D-MAGNIFY    MANIFESTATION     TAM TAM 037    ORGINAL AND REMIX
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> D.O.P.E    THE DOPE ON PLASTIC E.P    RUGGED VINYL 001    WHEN I WAS YOUNG - 
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> 2/3
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> ILLUSION "LEGAL MIX"
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> FOUL PLAY     VOL 4    MOVING SHADOW 049    MUSIC IS THE KEY - BEING WITH 
> YOU
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> 
> HARMONY & XTREME    WATCH THIS    SECTION 5 "007"    B = BOO
> 
> HEAVYWEIGHT     VOL 1    HW1    LIMITED EDITION 10"
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> LISTEN UP
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> 
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> SHADOW 030R    B = THUNDER GRIP "Kaotic Chemistry remix"
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> INNA RHYTHM    CARRIE    TONE DEF 017    INFINITY
> 
> INTERNATIONAL RUDE BOYZ & DJ SS REMIXES    DRUM PROGRAMME    FORMATION 032   
>   B = PARAGONE
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> J.L.M PRODUCTIONS    MATTER OF TRUST E,P    REINFORCED 064    WORDS BETWEEN 
> US - AFRAID TO TELL - FIND YOURSELF REMIX - CAN'T UNDERSTAND
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> MIXES & TWILIGHT orig mix
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> K-KLASS    THE WILDLIFE E.P     F.R.O RECORDS 104T    4 TRACKER
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> MA1    MOVIN IN MOTION    FORMATION 039    DJ SS REMIXES
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> MAD DOG III    MY GOD    UNDERDOG 005    RUMBLED
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> MENTAL POWER    CONTROL E,P     FORMATION 047    DREAM SEQUENCE / UNKNOWN 
> INTELLIGENCE & COOL N SEXY
> 
> MENTAL POWER    DREAM SEQUENCE "MP3" BACK TO BASIC REMIX    FORMATION 052 - 
> 10" inch vinyl     REAL "BONUS TRACK"
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> MIKE DE UNDERGROUND & COOL HAND FLEX    FLEX FINAL    PROG 3 "UG3'"    MASH 
> UP - TOTAL EXTASY - 2 BLACKS IN A BUBBLE ETC
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> MUSIC MADNESS    Samples shades of rhythm - sound of edan     PSUEDO 3    
> Please note! Quite a bit of background noise hence price check clip
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> TO ME BABY
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> ORIGIN UNKNOWN    VALLEY OF THE SHADOWS     RAM 004    B = THE TOUCH
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> PAUL Z    TALKING TO GOD    STREET BEATS 008    GLOBAL PEOPLE
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> PESHAY    WORLD OF MUSIC    INFRA RED 003    B = RUFIGE CREW REMIX & AMEN 
> REPRISE
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> OF POSSE - NEW CLASS A - MACKA B - DJ DUBPLATE
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> SCIENTIFIC WAX 2 "001"    SOFT & MELLOW
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> REMIXES PART 1 & 2
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> 
> PRIVATE PRODUCTIONS    VOL 1    REINFORCED 72    EDUCATION & CHILDREN OF THE 
> GHETTO
> 
> PROJECT 1    DON GARDON COMIN     RISING HIGH RECORDS 035    COME MY 
> SELECTOR - CAN'T TAKE THE - LIVE VIBE 4
> 
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>   REINFORCED 058    B = SURGICALLY REMOVED + IN TIME
> 
> QUADROPHONIA    QUADROPHONIA "MP3"     HEADSTRONG RECORDS    CLASSIC EARLY 
> HARDCORE
> 
> QUANTIZE    THE ROUGH EDGE E.P     HEADSTRONG RECORDS    GOOD 4 TRACK PROMO
> 
> RAY KEITH    INFORMATION CENTRE    RUFF KUT 002    B = RAY KEITH REMIX
> 
> REBEL MC    THE WICKEDEST SOUND    DESIRE "WANT X40R"    MARKED + SCRATCHED
> 
> RECALL    DRILLER KILLER     DEJA VU    B = What power do you bring Part 2
> 
> RED ANT    YOU DON'T KNOW ME     BOOGIE BEAT RECORDS 037    B = DON'T LOOK 
> BACK & EVERYDAY
> 
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> 
> RISING HIGH    MAGIC ROUNDABOUT     TAM TAM 038    B = GUESS WHO'S BACK JACK
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> R.J    VOLUME 1    STREET BEATS 007    10"
> 
> RONI SIZE    EXER-SIZE E.P    V RECORDINGS 007    TIME STRETCH - 93 MIX - 
> PHIZICAL
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> SAFARI SOUNDS    ON MY MIND    BASEMENT 039    B = THE CHANGE
> 
> SECTION 12    PRIVATE PLATE 1    STREET BEATS 001    CLOSER ENCOUNTERS 
> "SKANNER REMIX" - VOODOO TOO " CRIMINAL MINDS REMIX"
> 
> SHIMON    THE PREDATOR    RAM 010    B = WITHIN REASON
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> SLIPMASTER J    THE VISION E.P    DEE JAY 003    VISION - SYMPHONIC - HEAVEN
> 
> S.L.M    HAND-SOME TECHNIQUE E.P    TON DEF 009E.P    NICE N SLOW - EQUINOX 
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> S.M.F    VOLUME 3    RUGGED VINYL "SMF003"    4 TRACK E.P
> 
> S.M.F    VOLUME V    RUGGED VINYL 002    TWISTED BUNGLE - SURRENDER - MAKE 
> THE MUSIC - NAUGHTY SIX MINS
> 
> SOUND DIRECT    FUTURE LONDON    ODYSEE 001    B = SHIMMER
> 
> SOUNDS OF LIFE    TRUST ME    CERTIFICATE 18 - 007    B = RELEASE THE BALLS 
> & DON'T RESIST THE BEAT
> 
> SOUNDS OF LIFE    CURRENTS    CERTIFICATE 18 - 009    B = INTELLECT
> 
> STAKKER HUMANOID    HUMANOID    JUMPIN & PUMPIN    8 MIXES - ON COLOURED 
> VINYL
> 
> STETLY     A TOUCH OF LOVE    DANCE BASS 008    B = THE BEAT MASH UP CREW - 
> FAVOURITE CUTS
> 
> STUDIO PRESSURE    FORM & FUNCTION VOL 1    PHOTEK 001    RESOLUTION & FIRST 
> SEQUENCE
> 
> STUDIO PRESSURE    FORM & FUNCTION VOL 2    PHOTEK 002    BOOK OF CHANGES & 
> THE LIGHTNING
> 
> STUDIO PRESSURE    THE PHYSICAL    PHOTEK 003    TOUCHING DOWN - PLANET 
> PHOTEK
> 
> SUB SEQUENCE    MUSIC IS THE VIBE    TOOZ UP RECORDS 002    B = NOW THE GODS 
> & I WANT YOU
> 
> TEK 9    THE RETURN OF TEK 9    REINFORCED 038    DON'T LEAVE ME - RUDE BWOY 
> - YOU GOT TO SLOW DOWN X2
> 
> TRUE BLOOD    FEEL IT "2 mixes"    BASS ZONE 001    B = DREAMER "2 mixes"
> 
> THE BROTHERS GRIMM    SIGN OF THE TIMES    PRODUCTION HOUSE 048    B = 
> JUNGLE TRANCE
> 
> THE B SIDES    VOL THREE     MUSIC MAN    A = Foreign Trips / The Darkness 
> Revisited
> B= Orbital Ways / The Original / The Tape
> 
> THE ELIMINATORS    SOOTHE MY SOUL     HECTIC RECORDS 002    B = TUNE
> 
> THE MATCHSTICK MAN    UNKNOWN?    MAT 001    2 TRACK WHITE LABEL
> 
> THE OMEN    ESCAPE FROM REALITY     HYPE    3 MIXES of this paino tune 
> sampling bizarre inc & theme music from "omen"
> 
> THE PRODIGY    FIRE - BURNING & SUNRISE MIXES    XL 30    B = JERICHO - 
> ORIGINAL & GENASIDE II REMIX
> 
> THE ROOD PROJECT    THUNDER    WHITEHOUSE 026    B = PESHAY'S REMIX
> 
> THE SQUIRREL    BATTLESTAR HARDCORE    DANCE BASS "BOGWOPPA 03"    SQUIRREL 
> MIX - TERRA DOME - GOOD VIBERATIONS
> 
> TRIBE OF ISSACHAR    JUNGLIST    CONGO NATTY "ZION 13"    INCLUDES DJ KRUST 
> REMIX
> 
> UNKNOWN ??    COMIS TWIST E.P    RR 03    WICKED 4 TRACK E.P
> 
> UNDER GRADUATES    SPACE + INTO DA FUTURE "MICRO MIX"    CAMDEN TUNES 001    
> B = INTO DA FUTURE "MASSIVE MIX"
> 
> UNIQUE 3    TAKES CONTROL REMIX     TEN RECORDS 12R    INC m602 mix, Beats 
> and bass,
> 
> UNKNOWN ?    unknown?    BLACK LABEL    2 TRACK DRUM N BASS STYLE
> 
> WAX DOCTOR    KID CAPPRICE    METALHEADZ 005    B = THE RISE
> 
> WHITE LIGHTNING    SO MANY TEARS    PIONEER RECORDS 001    BURNING BRIDGES
> 
> WILD ORKID    THE MAGIC IN YOU    LUCKY SPIN 014    B = ORKID
> 
> WISHDOKTA    SUBLIMINAL SATISFACTION    DOK2001     RIVER OF DREAMS
> 
> X-CERT    RISING TO THE BASS    LIMITED E "010"    STRIKE A DUB - RISING MIX
> 
> X-CERTIFICATE    TAKE ME    IBIZA 024    DARK AFFAIR
> 
> X-CERTIFICATE    TAKE ME REMIX    IBIZA 027    WHEEL THE BASS REMIX
> 
> X-MEN    RAGGA DUB     MUTANT RECORDS    B= MAKE IT SO (VOCAL)
> 
> XPANSIONS    MOVE YOUR BODY "ELEVEATION"    ARISTA    91 REMIX
> 
> ZULU RECORDS    OH LA LA JUNGLE     ZULU RECORDS 3    MARTINS TUNE
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Just because somebody is a cornfed backwoods toothless farmboy doesn't
mean they can't appreciate good 'ardkore.

Not that I am, of course.


> Pasty McRedneck?
> Just because somebody is Midwestern doesn't mean they are a cornfed
> backwoods toothless farmboy.
> You're from Massachusetts-are you a child-molesting Irish Catholic
> clergy?
>  
> ---chris
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:59 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)
>  
> On Thu, 17 Jul 2003 16:57:30 -0500, Christopher Landis Shively 
> <heino@ku.edu> wrote: 
> > Oh yeah? Well I'm rubber, and you're glue, and whatever you say
> bounces 
> > off me and sticks to you. 
> > And PS: when it comes to nominating a list member as an insult to the 
> > human race, I'm pretty sure most people would pick mr. methamphetamine
> 
> > trafficker over usually-quiet Midwestern student boy. 
>  
> Sure thing, Pasty McRedneck. 
>  
> LOL. 
>  
> Ok, I'm done, haha. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/records 
> -DJ Entropy 
> http://www.djentropy.com 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

Just takes patience, you have to wait in line until the file gets to you.
But there are a few things you can do to jump the queue a little. The
current version of Kazaa gives you points based on how much other people
download from you, and the number of points you have determines your
priority in the queue. If you don't share anything, your priority is
always at the bottom, so everytime someone comes along with a higher
priority, you keep getting shunted to the back of the line. So you can
improve your priority (up to 1000 points) by downloading a buncha porn
videos, renaming them to look like beastiality or child pornography, and
sharing those (there are a lotta pervs on Kazaa). Or you can get the
latest version of Kazaa Lite, which means you don't have the
spyware/scumware that's installed with Kazaa, and it also includes a cheat
which lets you set your priority up to the maximum, and either keep it
there permanently, or let it deteriorate from there. Some people will
block you if they notice that you're cheating. But on the other hand, if
you have a lot of outbound traffic, you may get threats from your ISP, or
they may even terminate or suspend your internet account. I have this
problem, so what I do is:

I share a lot of quality music, mostly stuff from my own label, as well as
my own mixes, plus everything I download goes into a folder that's shared,
until I move it to another folder. I also usually share a couple of
videos, especially if I'm trying to download videos. I don't share
absolutely tons of stuff, so I don't get too many complaints from my ISP
(although they still call and harrass my grandmother from time to time,
cuz the account's in her name...we share it between 3 (sometimes 4)
computers).

I use the cheat to set my priority to 1000 (the maximum), then let it
gradually deteriorate to about 100 before putting it back up to 1000.

You can also try searching for additional sources...I think the context
menu you get if you right-click on the name of the file has that
option...not certain, as I've never used regular Kazaa, only Kazaalite
(which is a hacked version of the program).


> OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for download' .  I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I know thats not going to work.  I also tried to keep clicking on find more sources - to no avail.  I know that users are online because it happens with all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 users.
>  
> So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Any suggestions short of throwing my comp out the window will help  =)
>  
> Thx...K.
> 
> 
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Nope...its weird - when I hit reply all, I get up to 3 oldschool@hyperreal addys in my to field.   Hmmm...I dont know, I've hit send in the past by accident without deleting them & it seems that the list filter weeds out the mutiple emails.  Oh well.

damaja@cyberspace.org wrote:> Also, FYI - hit reply to all & the post almost got sent to the list 3 times - anyone have that problem besides me?

Had that problem with Netscape webmail. Why I hit reply, it would reply
only to the individual who sent the mail I was replying to. But if I hit
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

> "Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is an
> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is
> utter nonsensical crap."
> 
> If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost popularity
> over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
> appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!

In a general sense, it hasn't changed much since 1992, apart from speeding
up a bit. But then, if it did, it would be a different genre. It stays
enough the same to continue to be gabber, but there are plenty of fresh
sounds and innovation within the genre, and about 15 or 20 different
sub-genres, not to mention some related genres like acid techno. It's as
fresh as any other genre, but hasn't deteriorated in quality nearly as
much as most others have since I started partying.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that was 
> 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.


No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy - oldskool/hardcore

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:40:46 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org> wrote:

> But even in around 87-88, old electro/rap, and 70's punk, were both 
> called
> oldschool.


Old School =/= Old Skool  ;)


www.oldskool.org :


"Why "Oldskool" and not "Old school", then?"

"[They] achieved the impossible because they didn't know it was impossible. 
That's oldskool. I used to admire oldskool, continue to do so, and probably 
will until I die. Now that I'm older and educating the new blood with what 
I've learned from experience, I myself have become oldskool."


"Some of the younger folk in today's popular culture use "old school" as an 
interchangable term for "retro"; some even use it when making fun of the 
past. But oldskool is a term I proudly use with the utmost respect, and I 
hope you will too. "


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Subject: (oldschool) Re: XXX raving

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:05:54 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org> wrote:

> I was nearly 19 when I went to my first one, and I was quite anti-drug at 
> the time, but in love with the music, so I didn't really go that way.


I was very anti-drug when I started raving as well.  It took a couple years 
of having to sit through house and trance sets before I felt the urge to 
pass the time with drugs.






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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:25:55 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org> wrote:

>> > Also Ian - the key word in your sentence is ARGUABLY - I despise > 
>> hardcore, gives me a headache -
>>
>>
>> Then why are you on this list?  This is a Hardcore list.
>
> No, it's an oldskool list. There's other oldskool besides hardcore.


We've had this discussion when Karen was on here talking about late 70's 
Garage and Disco.  That was when I was the moderator, and I agreed that 
while this lists VEERS towards just old skool hardcore, other types of old 
skool are welcome here as well, in doses.

HOWEVER, now with the new moderator, I'm sure that is frowned upon; hence 
why I said this is a Hardcore list.





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org> wrote:

>> "Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore is 
>> an
>> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber is
>> utter nonsensical crap."
>>
>> If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost 
>> popularity
>> over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
>> appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!
>
> In a general sense, it hasn't changed much since 1992, apart from 
> speeding
> up a bit. But then, if it did, it would be a different genre. It stays
> enough the same to continue to be gabber, but there are plenty of fresh
> sounds and innovation within the genre, and about 15 or 20 different
> sub-genres, not to mention some related genres like acid techno. It's as
> fresh as any other genre, but hasn't deteriorated in quality nearly as
> much as most others have since I started partying.


Fair enough, but it still isn't Hardcore.




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Nope - doesnt work - i cant download ANYTHING - and nobody can download from me.  So, Ive decided to just say !@#$% Kazaa and I Love Soulseek!  Ive since deleted the whole Kazaa mess from my computer.
 
Thanx anyways tho.
K.

damaja@cyberspace.org wrote:
Just takes patience, you have to wait in line until the file gets to you.
But there are a few things you can do to jump the queue a little. The
current version of Kazaa gives you points based on how much other people
download from you, and the number of points you have determines your
priority in the queue. If you don't share anything, your priority is
always at the bottom, so everytime someone comes along with a higher
priority, you keep getting shunted to the back of the line. So you can
improve your priority (up to 1000 points) by downloading a buncha porn
videos, renaming them to look like beastiality or child pornography, and
sharing those (there are a lotta pervs on Kazaa). Or you can get the
latest version of Kazaa Lite, which means you don't have the
spyware/scumware that's installed with Kazaa, and it also includes a cheat
which lets you set your priority up to the maximum, and either keep it
there permanently, or let it deteriorate from there. Some people will
block you if they notice that you're cheating. But on the other hand, if
you have a lot of outbound traffic, you may get threats from your ISP, or
they may even terminate or suspend your internet account. I have this
problem, so what I do is:

I share a lot of quality music, mostly stuff from my own label, as well as
my own mixes, plus everything I download goes into a folder that's shared,
until I move it to another folder. I also usually share a couple of
videos, especially if I'm trying to download videos. I don't share
absolutely tons of stuff, so I don't get too many complaints from my ISP
(although they still call and harrass my grandmother from time to time,
cuz the account's in her name...we share it between 3 (sometimes 4)
computers).

I use the cheat to set my priority to 1000 (the maximum), then let it
gradually deteriorate to about 100 before putting it back up to 1000.

You can also try searching for additional sources...I think the context
menu you get if you right-click on the name of the file has that
option...not certain, as I've never used regular Kazaa, only Kazaalite
(which is a hacked version of the program).


> OK....heres the deal...I sign onto Kazaa - everythings gravy, then I try to download a file, any file, and all I get is 'more sources needed for download' . I have tried uninstalling & reinstalling so many times, I know thats not going to work. I also tried to keep clicking on find more sources - to no avail. I know that users are online because it happens with all files and it happens with files that are being used by up to 20 users.
> 
> So....HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions short of throwing my comp out the window will help =)
> 
> Thx...K.
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------
> Do you Yahoo!?
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Subject: (oldschool) mp3 sets

Can anyone help me out withthese sets, i need these to complete their
respective events:

Bryan Gee @ Dreamscape 2
grooverider dreamscape 2
grooverider dreamscape 3
top buzz @ dreamscape 3
jody @ universe, mind body and soul '92
Colin Dale@ Fantazia 2nd sight 92
dougal dreamscape 3
ellis dee@ fantazia big bang '93
kieran @ nye fantazia 92
mike c @ nye fantazia 92
sy @ nye fantazia 92
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seduction @ fantazia showcase 92
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i have a LOT of sets i can sort you out with. I just wanna get them
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> We've had this discussion when Karen was on here talking about late 70's
> Garage and Disco.  That was when I was the moderator, and I agreed that
> while this lists VEERS towards just old skool hardcore, other types of old
> skool are welcome here as well, in doses.
>
> HOWEVER, now with the new moderator, I'm sure that is frowned upon; hence
> why I said this is a Hardcore list.

Ive never said that or implied it either.
The term "oldskool" covers anything and everything. And thats not just
music.
Oldskool skateboards, oldskool clothes, oldskool rap, oldskool hiphop,
oldskool raggae, oldskool whatever.

I have certainly never said this is a list JUST for oldskool hardcore, so
please dont imply that I have!


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On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:23:41 +0100, Dest <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> 
wrote:

>> We've had this discussion when Karen was on here talking about late 70's
>> Garage and Disco.  That was when I was the moderator, and I agreed that
>> while this lists VEERS towards just old skool hardcore, other types of 
>> old
>> skool are welcome here as well, in doses.
>>
>> HOWEVER, now with the new moderator, I'm sure that is frowned upon; 
>> hence
>> why I said this is a Hardcore list.
>
> Ive never said that or implied it either.
> The term "oldskool" covers anything and everything. And thats not just
> music.
> Oldskool skateboards, oldskool clothes, oldskool rap, oldskool hiphop,
> oldskool raggae, oldskool whatever.
>
> I have certainly never said this is a list JUST for oldskool hardcore, so
> please dont imply that I have!


Speaking of old skool hip-hop, I just saw Big Daddy Kane, KRS-One, and PMD 
(from EPMD) for free in the Boston City Hall Plaza.

INSANITY.






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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mp3 sets

I have all these:

I'm on dial up now tho.



Carl Cox & DJ Die - Universe 1992.mp3
Carl Cox Live at the Edge, Coventry.mp3
Clarkee - OS Vol1.mp3
Cloudskipper-Live-at-Recess-3-Atlanta-07-20-02.mp3
Dr S Gachet - Edge (6 Pack No. 3) - November 1993 (Side A).mp3
Dr S Gachet - Edge (6 Pack No. 3) - November 1993 (Side B).mp3
Easygroove - Live at Fantazia Summertime (15 May 1992).mp3
Easygroove & MC Robbie Dee - Dreamscape 21 (31-12-1995).mp3
Ellis Dee - Fantazia 94.mp3
Ellis Dee - Live at The Edge, Coventry.mp3
Ellis Dee - Obsession-26-02-93.mp3
Ellis Dee & Swanee - Dreamscape 2.mp3
Frankie Bones - Live @ Amnesia (August 23 1990).mp3
Grooverider @ 1994_futurehardcore_a.mp3
Grooverider_-_4_-_92_-_Brighton_-_A.mp3
Grooverider_-_4_-_92_-_Brighton_-_B.mp3
Grooverider_Sterns_92A.mp3
Grooverider_Sterns_92B.mp3
Hype - Hype Mix 93.mp3
Hype @ Ravesyndrome (The Final Experience 1993) Side A.mp3
Hype @ Ravesyndrome (The Final Experience 1993) Side B.mp3
Jumpin Jack Frost - XSTATIC Side a (May 1992).mp3
Jumpin Jack Frost - XSTATIC Side b (May 1992).mp3
LTJ Bukem & MC Conrad - Live at Dreamscape 4.mp3
Luna C - 4 days, 2 Errors Part A.mp3
Luna C - 4 Days, 2 Errors Part B.mp3
Luna C @ Milk,Mannheim 1998 Part1 (KniteForceRecords Label Night).mp3
Luna_C_-_Live_on_KSJS_San_Diego_12-7-01.mp3
Luna_C_-_Xmas_Mix.mp3
Mickey Finn - Live at Fantazia - 1993.mp3
phil_freeart-pure_old_skool_madness-side_a.mp3
Phil_Freeart-Pure_Old_Skool_Madness-Side_B.mp3
Picci-Dreamscape-3-ESP-4-10-1992.mp3
Purity_Control_-_Darker_Side_Of_The_Jungle_192kbps.mp3
Randall & Kenny Ken - awolA.mp3
Randall & Kenny Ken - awolB.mp3
Randall & Kenny Ken - awolC.mp3
Randall & Kenny Ken - awolD.mp3
Randall_Live_at_Edge_1993_(side1).mp3
Randall_Live_at_Edge_1993_(side2).mp3
Ratty - FibreOptic @ Quest 1993.mp3
Ratty_-_Live_at_Dreamscape_6.mp3
SASHA-1990-CLASSIC-A.mp3
SASHA-1990-CLASSIC-B.mp3
Screwface - Live at Hardcore Heaven 2 (Tampa, Fl) 11-03-01.mp3
Seduction - starlight 1992 part 1.mp3
Seduction - starlight 1992 part 2.mp3
Slipmatt-Fantazia NYE 92-93.mp3
SwanE_-_Helter_Skelter_(9-17-93).mp3
Top buzz Fantazia NYE 1991 T.mp3
Top_Buzz-Live_at_Helter_Skelter_1993_(Part_1).mp3
Top_Buzz-Live_at_Helter_Skelter_1993_(Part_2).mp3





On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:00:29 +0100, Richard Wyatt <rich@jungletekno.com> 
wrote:

> Can anyone help me out withthese sets, i need these to complete their
> respective events:
>
> Bryan Gee @ Dreamscape 2
> grooverider dreamscape 2
> grooverider dreamscape 3
> top buzz @ dreamscape 3
> jody @ universe, mind body and soul '92
> Colin Dale@ Fantazia 2nd sight 92
> dougal dreamscape 3
> ellis dee@ fantazia big bang '93
> kieran @ nye fantazia 92
> mike c @ nye fantazia 92
> sy @ nye fantazia 92
> ratty @ fantazia one step beyond 92
> seduction @ fantazia showcase 92
> top buzz @ showcase fantazia 92
>
>
> i have a LOT of sets i can sort you out with. I just wanna get them
> finished!!
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mp3 sets

these seats are the ONLY ones that i need. Thanks for the offer thio mate.
Not bad collection considering you're on dial-up!!!


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To: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mp3 sets


> I have all these:
>
> I'm on dial up now tho.
>
>
>
> Carl Cox & DJ Die - Universe 1992.mp3
> Carl Cox Live at the Edge, Coventry.mp3
> Clarkee - OS Vol1.mp3
> Cloudskipper-Live-at-Recess-3-Atlanta-07-20-02.mp3
> Dr S Gachet - Edge (6 Pack No. 3) - November 1993 (Side A).mp3
> Dr S Gachet - Edge (6 Pack No. 3) - November 1993 (Side B).mp3
> Easygroove - Live at Fantazia Summertime (15 May 1992).mp3
> Easygroove & MC Robbie Dee - Dreamscape 21 (31-12-1995).mp3
> Ellis Dee - Fantazia 94.mp3
> Ellis Dee - Live at The Edge, Coventry.mp3
> Ellis Dee - Obsession-26-02-93.mp3
> Ellis Dee & Swanee - Dreamscape 2.mp3
> Frankie Bones - Live @ Amnesia (August 23 1990).mp3
> Grooverider @ 1994_futurehardcore_a.mp3
> Grooverider_-_4_-_92_-_Brighton_-_A.mp3
> Grooverider_-_4_-_92_-_Brighton_-_B.mp3
> Grooverider_Sterns_92A.mp3
> Grooverider_Sterns_92B.mp3
> Hype - Hype Mix 93.mp3
> Hype @ Ravesyndrome (The Final Experience 1993) Side A.mp3
> Hype @ Ravesyndrome (The Final Experience 1993) Side B.mp3
> Jumpin Jack Frost - XSTATIC Side a (May 1992).mp3
> Jumpin Jack Frost - XSTATIC Side b (May 1992).mp3
> LTJ Bukem & MC Conrad - Live at Dreamscape 4.mp3
> Luna C - 4 days, 2 Errors Part A.mp3
> Luna C - 4 Days, 2 Errors Part B.mp3
> Luna C @ Milk,Mannheim 1998 Part1 (KniteForceRecords Label Night).mp3
> Luna_C_-_Live_on_KSJS_San_Diego_12-7-01.mp3
> Luna_C_-_Xmas_Mix.mp3
> Mickey Finn - Live at Fantazia - 1993.mp3
> phil_freeart-pure_old_skool_madness-side_a.mp3
> Phil_Freeart-Pure_Old_Skool_Madness-Side_B.mp3
> Picci-Dreamscape-3-ESP-4-10-1992.mp3
> Purity_Control_-_Darker_Side_Of_The_Jungle_192kbps.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolA.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolB.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolC.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolD.mp3
> Randall_Live_at_Edge_1993_(side1).mp3
> Randall_Live_at_Edge_1993_(side2).mp3
> Ratty - FibreOptic @ Quest 1993.mp3
> Ratty_-_Live_at_Dreamscape_6.mp3
> SASHA-1990-CLASSIC-A.mp3
> SASHA-1990-CLASSIC-B.mp3
> Screwface - Live at Hardcore Heaven 2 (Tampa, Fl) 11-03-01.mp3
> Seduction - starlight 1992 part 1.mp3
> Seduction - starlight 1992 part 2.mp3
> Slipmatt-Fantazia NYE 92-93.mp3
> SwanE_-_Helter_Skelter_(9-17-93).mp3
> Top buzz Fantazia NYE 1991 T.mp3
> Top_Buzz-Live_at_Helter_Skelter_1993_(Part_1).mp3
> Top_Buzz-Live_at_Helter_Skelter_1993_(Part_2).mp3
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:00:29 +0100, Richard Wyatt <rich@jungletekno.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone help me out withthese sets, i need these to complete their
> > respective events:
> >
> > Bryan Gee @ Dreamscape 2
> > grooverider dreamscape 2
> > grooverider dreamscape 3
> > top buzz @ dreamscape 3
> > jody @ universe, mind body and soul '92
> > Colin Dale@ Fantazia 2nd sight 92
> > dougal dreamscape 3
> > ellis dee@ fantazia big bang '93
> > kieran @ nye fantazia 92
> > mike c @ nye fantazia 92
> > sy @ nye fantazia 92
> > ratty @ fantazia one step beyond 92
> > seduction @ fantazia showcase 92
> > top buzz @ showcase fantazia 92
> >
> >
> > i have a LOT of sets i can sort you out with. I just wanna get them
> > finished!!
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mp3 sets

Ive got the Bryan Gee at Dreamscape 2 on tape, ill get it ripped soon. ;o)


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) mp3 sets

i have all of
them....................................................................
...do some sort of trade for that amnesia dvd!!


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 6:14 AM
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) mp3 sets


these seats are the ONLY ones that i need. Thanks for the offer thio
mate. Not bad collection considering you're on dial-up!!!


----- Original Message -----=20
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To: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) mp3 sets


> I have all these:
>
> I'm on dial up now tho.
>
>
>
> Carl Cox & DJ Die - Universe 1992.mp3
> Carl Cox Live at the Edge, Coventry.mp3
> Clarkee - OS Vol1.mp3=20
> Cloudskipper-Live-at-Recess-3-Atlanta-07-20-02.mp3
> Dr S Gachet - Edge (6 Pack No. 3) - November 1993 (Side A).mp3 Dr S=20
> Gachet - Edge (6 Pack No. 3) - November 1993 (Side B).mp3 Easygroove -

> Live at Fantazia Summertime (15 May 1992).mp3 Easygroove & MC Robbie=20
> Dee - Dreamscape 21 (31-12-1995).mp3 Ellis Dee - Fantazia 94.mp3
> Ellis Dee - Live at The Edge, Coventry.mp3
> Ellis Dee - Obsession-26-02-93.mp3
> Ellis Dee & Swanee - Dreamscape 2.mp3
> Frankie Bones - Live @ Amnesia (August 23 1990).mp3
> Grooverider @ 1994_futurehardcore_a.mp3
> Grooverider_-_4_-_92_-_Brighton_-_A.mp3
> Grooverider_-_4_-_92_-_Brighton_-_B.mp3
> Grooverider_Sterns_92A.mp3
> Grooverider_Sterns_92B.mp3
> Hype - Hype Mix 93.mp3
> Hype @ Ravesyndrome (The Final Experience 1993) Side A.mp3
> Hype @ Ravesyndrome (The Final Experience 1993) Side B.mp3
> Jumpin Jack Frost - XSTATIC Side a (May 1992).mp3
> Jumpin Jack Frost - XSTATIC Side b (May 1992).mp3
> LTJ Bukem & MC Conrad - Live at Dreamscape 4.mp3
> Luna C - 4 days, 2 Errors Part A.mp3
> Luna C - 4 Days, 2 Errors Part B.mp3
> Luna C @ Milk,Mannheim 1998 Part1 (KniteForceRecords Label Night).mp3
> Luna_C_-_Live_on_KSJS_San_Diego_12-7-01.mp3
> Luna_C_-_Xmas_Mix.mp3
> Mickey Finn - Live at Fantazia - 1993.mp3
> phil_freeart-pure_old_skool_madness-side_a.mp3
> Phil_Freeart-Pure_Old_Skool_Madness-Side_B.mp3
> Picci-Dreamscape-3-ESP-4-10-1992.mp3
> Purity_Control_-_Darker_Side_Of_The_Jungle_192kbps.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolA.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolB.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolC.mp3
> Randall & Kenny Ken - awolD.mp3
> Randall_Live_at_Edge_1993_(side1).mp3
> Randall_Live_at_Edge_1993_(side2).mp3
> Ratty - FibreOptic @ Quest 1993.mp3
> Ratty_-_Live_at_Dreamscape_6.mp3
> SASHA-1990-CLASSIC-A.mp3
> SASHA-1990-CLASSIC-B.mp3
> Screwface - Live at Hardcore Heaven 2 (Tampa, Fl) 11-03-01.mp3
> Seduction - starlight 1992 part 1.mp3
> Seduction - starlight 1992 part 2.mp3
> Slipmatt-Fantazia NYE 92-93.mp3
> SwanE_-_Helter_Skelter_(9-17-93).mp3
> Top buzz Fantazia NYE 1991 T.mp3
> Top_Buzz-Live_at_Helter_Skelter_1993_(Part_1).mp3
> Top_Buzz-Live_at_Helter_Skelter_1993_(Part_2).mp3
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 21:00:29 +0100, Richard Wyatt=20
> <rich@jungletekno.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Can anyone help me out withthese sets, i need these to complete=20
> > their respective events:
> >
> > Bryan Gee @ Dreamscape 2
> > grooverider dreamscape 2
> > grooverider dreamscape 3
> > top buzz @ dreamscape 3
> > jody @ universe, mind body and soul '92
> > Colin Dale@ Fantazia 2nd sight 92
> > dougal dreamscape 3
> > ellis dee@ fantazia big bang '93
> > kieran @ nye fantazia 92
> > mike c @ nye fantazia 92
> > sy @ nye fantazia 92
> > ratty @ fantazia one step beyond 92
> > seduction @ fantazia showcase 92
> > top buzz @ showcase fantazia 92
> >
> >
> > i have a LOT of sets i can sort you out with. I just wanna get them=20
> > finished!!
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

I think you'll find it is.  If you can call HHC hardcore then gabba has
far more right to come under the hardcore banner than that HHC pish.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org> wrote:

>> "Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore
is=20
>> an
>> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber
is
>> utter nonsensical crap."
>>
>> If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost=20
>> popularity
>> over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
>> appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!
>
> In a general sense, it hasn't changed much since 1992, apart from=20
> speeding
> up a bit. But then, if it did, it would be a different genre. It stays
> enough the same to continue to be gabber, but there are plenty of
fresh
> sounds and innovation within the genre, and about 15 or 20 different
> sub-genres, not to mention some related genres like acid techno. It's
as
> fresh as any other genre, but hasn't deteriorated in quality nearly as
> much as most others have since I started partying.


Fair enough, but it still isn't Hardcore.




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:38:25 +0100, Jose Hernandez 
<jh011b2849@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I think you'll find it is.  If you can call HHC hardcore then gabba has
> far more right to come under the hardcore banner than that HHC pish.


Historically that is not the case.

The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.  
Gabber has nothing to do with it; it's not even the same country.





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> From: Señor Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] Sent: 19 July 2003 
> 19:51
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org;
> david.curran@fibonacci.co.uk
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org> wrote:
>
>>> "Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.  Hardcore
> is
>>> an
>>> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave; Gabber
> is
>>> utter nonsensical crap."
>>>
>>> If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost 
>>> popularity
>>> over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
>>> appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!
>>
>> In a general sense, it hasn't changed much since 1992, apart from 
>> speeding
>> up a bit. But then, if it did, it would be a different genre. It stays
>> enough the same to continue to be gabber, but there are plenty of
> fresh
>> sounds and innovation within the genre, and about 15 or 20 different
>> sub-genres, not to mention some related genres like acid techno. It's
> as
>> fresh as any other genre, but hasn't deteriorated in quality nearly as
>> much as most others have since I started partying.
>
>
> Fair enough, but it still isn't Hardcore.
>
>
>
>



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Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I wrote??
 
*AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a HALF dollar size..."
 
Read next time, dick.

Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
wrote:

> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that was 
> 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.


No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Um, maybe you don't remember that people used to CHEW their pills before 
they got all small.

You're suppossed to chew ecstasy before swallowing it anyway; it breaks it 
up so you don't get that after-surprise in the middle of something shady 
(if there is one)  ;)




On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I wrote??
> *AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a HALF 
> dollar size..."
> Read next time, dick.
>
> Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>
>> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that was 
>> 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.
>
>
> No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.
>
>
>
>
>



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The taste is nasty - so while some people chose to chew (and yes I do remember when they did, although I dont know how because it felt like chewing on tinfoil almost)... others swallowed.  (alright this is starting to sound a little too pornographical for the rave list)
 
Sweetie, you need to realize that everyone does things differently - not the way you necessarily did or do.  So, relax...you are not the rave god, step down from that pedestal you seem to have yourself on.

Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
Um, maybe you don't remember that people used to CHEW their pills before 
they got all small.

You're suppossed to chew ecstasy before swallowing it anyway; it breaks it 
up so you don't get that after-surprise in the middle of something shady 
(if there is one) ;)




On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
wrote:

> Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I wrote??
> *AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a HALF 
> dollar size..."
> Read next time, dick.
>
> Señor_Entropy wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>
>> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that was 
>> 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.
>
>
> No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.
>
>
>
>
>



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

noone I know has ever chewed pills. You can if you choose to, it will make
it hit faster, but its not as though you need to and its certainly not
standard practice, at least on this side of the pond.



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> Um, maybe you don't remember that people used to CHEW their pills before
> they got all small.
>
> You're suppossed to chew ecstasy before swallowing it anyway; it breaks it
> up so you don't get that after-surprise in the middle of something shady
> (if there is one)  ;)
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman
> <kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I
wrote??
> > *AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a HALF
> > dollar size..."
> > Read next time, dick.
> >
> > Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
> >
> >> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that
was
> >> 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.
> >
> >
> > No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

I was just pointing out that you were wrong.



On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:52:49 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
<kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The taste is nasty - so while some people chose to chew (and yes I do 
> remember when they did, although I dont know how because it felt like 
> chewing on tinfoil almost)... others swallowed.  (alright this is 
> starting to sound a little too pornographical for the rave list)
> Sweetie, you need to realize that everyone does things differently - not 
> the way you necessarily did or do.  So, relax...you are not the rave god, 
> step down from that pedestal you seem to have yourself on.
>
> Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
> Um, maybe you don't remember that people used to CHEW their pills before 
> they got all small.
>
> You're suppossed to chew ecstasy before swallowing it anyway; it breaks 
> it up so you don't get that after-surprise in the middle of something 
> shady (if there is one) ;)
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>
>> Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I 
>> wrote??
>> *AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a HALF 
>> dollar size..."
>> Read next time, dick.
>>
>> Señor_Entropy wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>>
>>> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that 
>>> was 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.
>>
>>
>> No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>



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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 23:05:29 +0100, Soopaslooth <soopaslooth@f2s.com> 
wrote:

> noone I know has ever chewed pills. You can if you choose to, it will 
> make
> it hit faster, but its not as though you need to and its certainly not
> standard practice, at least on this side of the pond.


It was pretty standard when I started raving in 95 around here.

*shrug*




>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Señor Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 10:04 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)
>
>
>> Um, maybe you don't remember that people used to CHEW their pills before
>> they got all small.
>>
>> You're suppossed to chew ecstasy before swallowing it anyway; it breaks 
>> it
>> up so you don't get that after-surprise in the middle of something shady
>> (if there is one)  ;)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman
>> <kdorman11@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I
> wrote??
>> > *AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a 
>> HALF
>> > dollar size..."
>> > Read next time, dick.
>> >
>> > Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>> >
>> >> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that
> was
>> >> 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.
>> >
>> >
>> > No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Actually - moons were not half dollar size...and that was what we were discussing.
 
But, Im done with this stupid conversation.  Please go entertain yourself with someone else.

Señor_Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote:
I was just pointing out that you were wrong.



On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 14:52:49 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman 
wrote:

> The taste is nasty - so while some people chose to chew (and yes I do 
> remember when they did, although I dont know how because it felt like 
> chewing on tinfoil almost)... others swallowed. (alright this is 
> starting to sound a little too pornographical for the rave list)
> Sweetie, you need to realize that everyone does things differently - not 
> the way you necessarily did or do. So, relax...you are not the rave god, 
> step down from that pedestal you seem to have yourself on.
>
> Señor_Entropy wrote:
> Um, maybe you don't remember that people used to CHEW their pills before 
> they got all small.
>
> You're suppossed to chew ecstasy before swallowing it anyway; it breaks 
> it up so you don't get that after-surprise in the middle of something 
> shady (if there is one) ;)
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 12:31:31 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>
>> Hey, illiterate, why dont you actually READ and UNDERSTAND what I 
>> wrote??
>> *AHEM* - "if you think you could doen something that was HALF of a HALF 
>> dollar size..."
>> Read next time, dick.
>>
>> Señor_Entropy wrote:
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:24:55 -0700 (PDT), Kelly Dorman wrote:
>>
>>> Half dollar size my ass - if you think you could down something that 
>>> was 1/2 a half dollar size, I would pay to see that.
>>
>>
>> No, idiot, that's why it was usually SPLIT between two people.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Anyone know this guy? Where is he from, any tunes released so far? =
Anything?

for all thos that have never before heard of him check out Techno =
Hardcore or Frequencies (T-Wsited remix).

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)


>Historically that is not the case.

>The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.

Come on.  What Seduction, there ain't that many.  You can say the same
for Gabber, Neophyte, DJ Paul, Lenny Dee, Rob Gee, The Producer just a
small example.

And can you seriously place hardcore down to a geographical location
now, not really. yeah most of it was Uk based but a lot of European
stuff had a big influence on the scene.  Acts such as Digital Boy,
ScottBrown/QTex, Human Resource, Dye Witness and Ultrasonic where major
hardcore acts and even though they are more hardcore techno than gabber
these sounds were the stepping stones to what is now gabba.

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:38:25 +0100, Jose Hernandez=20
<jh011b2849@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

> I think you'll find it is.  If you can call HHC hardcore then gabba
has
> far more right to come under the hardcore banner than that HHC pish.


Historically that is not the case.

The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93. =20
Gabber has nothing to do with it; it's not even the same country.





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2003=20
> 19:51
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org;
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> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)
>
> On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org>
wrote:
>
>>> "Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.
Hardcore
> is
>>> an
>>> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave;
Gabber
> is
>>> utter nonsensical crap."
>>>
>>> If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost=20
>>> popularity
>>> over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
>>> appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!
>>
>> In a general sense, it hasn't changed much since 1992, apart from=20
>> speeding
>> up a bit. But then, if it did, it would be a different genre. It
stays
>> enough the same to continue to be gabber, but there are plenty of
> fresh
>> sounds and innovation within the genre, and about 15 or 20 different
>> sub-genres, not to mention some related genres like acid techno. It's
> as
>> fresh as any other genre, but hasn't deteriorated in quality nearly
as
>> much as most others have since I started partying.
>
>
> Fair enough, but it still isn't Hardcore.
>
>
>
>



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on 18/7/03 6:11 PM, DJ Destiny at djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk wrote:

>> Is there any original old skool on this list like
>> the British hardcore crew who used to love to sniff
>> vick vapour rub and a good old dennis the mennis?

Hands up - guilty :)

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Yeah, we used to get the dust masks, draw the Altern8 symbol on em and put
vicks / medic spray in them..

Ahhh to be 16-18 again..


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Vinyl Connection - Are these guys genuine?

Ian.

I've used these guys to get records to me in Perth, WA with no problems as
such. I got a phone call from those lovely people at customs saying I had to
pay GST on the goods coming in but they never pursued it in the end.

As for VC, had no problems as such. I found they choose not to reply to
emails sometimes which is a tad frustrating but other than that, a good
professional service.

Colin Dee.

on 19/7/03 9:43 PM, Ian at ian_soord@iinet.net.au wrote:

> A bit too late to ask but would like to know what every thinks about
> Vinyl Connection.
> 
> Are they genuine? Anyone had any problems with orders from them?
> 
> Ive already placed and order with them and after being charged for the
> items I've found them still listed for sale, plus they've been reduced
> in price from 10 to 8 pound. Ive tried contacting them but have had no
> response.

> Have I made a big mistake?


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NRR - HEEEEELP!!!!  (!@#$% Kazaa)

on 20/7/03 3:57 AM, Kelly Dorman at kdorman11@yahoo.com wrote:

> Nope - doesnt work - i cant download ANYTHING - and nobody can download from
> me.  So, Ive decided to just say !@#$% Kazaa and I Love Soulseek!  Ive since
> deleted the whole Kazaa mess from my computer.
> 
> Thanx anyways tho.
> K.

Kelly. Get yourself a copy of Ad-Aware on your machine. Although you have
uninstalled Kazza, you still may have the ad/spyware on your machine.

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:30:58 +0100, Jose Hernandez 
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>> Historically that is not the case.
>
>> The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.
>
> Come on.  What Seduction, there ain't that many.



Errr....Seduction, Luna C, Brisk, Slipmatt, Alk-E-D, Jimmy J, Jack N 
Phil....just to name a few.



> You can say the same
> for Gabber, Neophyte, DJ Paul, Lenny Dee, Rob Gee, The Producer just a
> small example.
>
> And can you seriously place hardcore down to a geographical location



Yes, it is UK based, and always has been.





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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DJ Buzz Fuzz

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 01:11:17 +0200, Milosz Zielinski <milosz13@gmx.ch> 
wrote:

> Anyone know this guy? Where is he from, any tunes released so far? 
> Anything?
>
> for all thos that have never before heard of him check out Techno 
> Hardcore or Frequencies (T-Wsited remix).


Buzz Fuzz is a "newstyle" Gabber producer....this is an Old Skool Hardcore 
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Yes but for £20 youd only need one not like
the 8 - 9 pills you would need today just to scratch the
surface.

Sadly very true mate......

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy) 



Oh yeah don't get me wrong I wasn't complaining.
I'd still pay £20 now for a proper old new yorker.

mmmm..me too Kev. Or a nice clean Pink Cally or a decent mega rushy Love 
Dove for those quiet nights in with the misses. Fuck it I'd take a good 
smacky burger if it came along....I'd  even push the boat out further for 
some real oldskool jimmies....M25's....Machester Space Faces. Even a Zippy 
Pinhead would be good.....have not done acid for eons....one of these weird 
catch 22's acid....when I was a teenager they were a peice of piss to get 
hold off....older you get harder they are to find. Probably just as well.

much love on this dreary as fuck Monday morning

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Subject: (oldschool) amnesia dvd!!

Which reminds me

someone on this list (Richard...?) has this amnesia DVD....could you get in 
touch

anyone else who has any older raves (92 or earlier) on film could you let me 
know

cheers

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

And you were there right.  Not by the sounds of it. =20

Did you even know there were two scene's going on at the same time the
southern and northern.  While the south were listening to the artists
you just named the north were listing to hardcore techno and gabba
artists from the UK/Europe. =20

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On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:30:58 +0100, Jose Hernandez=20
<jh011b2849@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>> Historically that is not the case.
>
>> The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.
>
> Come on.  What Seduction, there ain't that many.



Errr....Seduction, Luna C, Brisk, Slipmatt, Alk-E-D, Jimmy J, Jack N=20
Phil....just to name a few.



> You can say the same
> for Gabber, Neophyte, DJ Paul, Lenny Dee, Rob Gee, The Producer just a
> small example.
>
> And can you seriously place hardcore down to a geographical location



Yes, it is UK based, and always has been.





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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

So gabba producers aren't old skool producers?

So Paul Elstak was never part of Holy Noise? Hellfish never ran Bogwoppa & 
Dance Bass? Half the Bloody Fist crew aren't putting out old skool style 
tunes on their EPs? Loftgroover never had any tunes out on Basement Records? 
HMS wasn't part of The Men From Del Bosca? Patrick van Kerckhoven of 
Ruffneck fame never put tunes on 80 Aum? And so on...

>
> >Historically that is not the case.
>
> >The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.
>
>Come on.  What Seduction, there ain't that many.  You can say the same
>for Gabber, Neophyte, DJ Paul, Lenny Dee, Rob Gee, The Producer just a
>small example.
>
>And can you seriously place hardcore down to a geographical location
>now, not really. yeah most of it was Uk based but a lot of European
>stuff had a big influence on the scene.  Acts such as Digital Boy,
>ScottBrown/QTex, Human Resource, Dye Witness and Ultrasonic where major
>hardcore acts and even though they are more hardcore techno than gabber
>these sounds were the stepping stones to what is now gabba.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>
>On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:38:25 +0100, Jose Hernandez
><jh011b2849@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > I think you'll find it is.  If you can call HHC hardcore then gabba
>has
> > far more right to come under the hardcore banner than that HHC pish.
>
>
>Historically that is not the case.
>
>The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.
>Gabber has nothing to do with it; it's not even the same country.
>
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Señor Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] Sent: 19 July
>2003
> > 19:51
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org;
> > david.curran@fibonacci.co.uk
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)
> >
> > On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:42:22 -0400 (EDT), <damaja@cyberspace.org>
>wrote:
> >
> >>> "Calling Gabber "hardcore" is an insult to proper Hardcore.
>Hardcore
> > is
> >>> an
> >>> innovative, always fresh music that is the foundation of Rave;
>Gabber
> > is
> >>> utter nonsensical crap."
> >>>
> >>> If a formula does work, why change it? Gabber hasn't really lost
> >>> popularity
> >>> over the past decade, particularly because, IMO, you have to really
> >>> appreciate it to be able to listen to it!!
> >>
> >> In a general sense, it hasn't changed much since 1992, apart from
> >> speeding
> >> up a bit. But then, if it did, it would be a different genre. It
>stays
> >> enough the same to continue to be gabber, but there are plenty of
> > fresh
> >> sounds and innovation within the genre, and about 15 or 20 different
> >> sub-genres, not to mention some related genres like acid techno. It's
> > as
> >> fresh as any other genre, but hasn't deteriorated in quality nearly
>as
> >> much as most others have since I started partying.
> >
> >
> > Fair enough, but it still isn't Hardcore.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Hardcore (was: Entropy)

Well Jose, I guess if he hasn't heard of the northern scene and doesn't 
understand what it was all about, he should be pitied rather than slagged 
off ;)


>From: "Jose Hernandez" <jh011b2849@blueyonder.co.uk>
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>
>And you were there right.  Not by the sounds of it.
>
>Did you even know there were two scene's going on at the same time the
>southern and northern.  While the south were listening to the artists
>you just named the north were listing to hardcore techno and gabba
>artists from the UK/Europe.
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>
>On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 19:30:58 +0100, Jose Hernandez
><jh011b2849@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> Historically that is not the case.
> >
> >> The HHC producers today are the same old skool producers from 88-93.
> >
> > Come on.  What Seduction, there ain't that many.
>
>
>
>Errr....Seduction, Luna C, Brisk, Slipmatt, Alk-E-D, Jimmy J, Jack N
>Phil....just to name a few.
>
>
>
> > You can say the same
> > for Gabber, Neophyte, DJ Paul, Lenny Dee, Rob Gee, The Producer just a
> > small example.
> >
> > And can you seriously place hardcore down to a geographical location
>
>
>
>Yes, it is UK based, and always has been.
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool) Warhead told you

A simple but effective mashup.... ;o)

www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/DJDestiny_Warhead_Told_You.mp3

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