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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS ones
then ;-)

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you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
£50-£100+.
there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg these
are a bit cheaper £30+.
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> looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
>
> i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
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> anyone?
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> cheers,
> adam (exT)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits up
on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the label
black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may know
;o)
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> if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS ones
> then ;-)
>
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>
> you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
> £50-£100+.
> there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg these
> are a bit cheaper £30+.
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> > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> >
> > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> >
> > anyone?
> >
> > cheers,
> > adam (exT)
> > http://electros.dhs.org
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

Wraparound
http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.mp3

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file not found

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> This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a 
> copy. Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's 
> Sesame Street as the next track.
> 
> So here goes >>>>>>
> 
> http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.m
> p3
> 
> If you have a copy please mail me.
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> Duncan
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

still gettting a 404 file not found.


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> Wraparound
> http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.mp3
> 
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> 
> file not found
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> 
> > This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a 
> > copy. Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's 
> > Sesame Street as the next track.
> > 
> > So here goes >>>>>>
> > 
> > http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.m
> > p3
> > 
> > If you have a copy please mail me.
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> > Duncan
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/UNKNOWN.mp3

The filename has to be in upper case, UNKNOWN.mp3, this is a IE bug.



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still gettting a 404 file not found.


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> Wraparound 
> http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.m
> p3
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> file not found
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> > This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a
> > copy. Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's 
> > Sesame Street as the next track.
> > 
> > So here goes >>>>>>
> > 
> > http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown
> > .m
> > p3
> > 
> > If you have a copy please mail me.
> > 
> > Duncan
> > 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

i heard this before, it's got a stupid name. That has got to be the most
cheesiest tune i've ever heard!!! LOL


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> www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/UNKNOWN.mp3
>
> The filename has to be in upper case, UNKNOWN.mp3, this is a IE bug.
>
>
>
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>
> still gettting a 404 file not found.
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>
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>
> > Wraparound
> > http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.m
> > p3
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: 01 February 2003 01:01
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> >
> > file not found
> >
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> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:02 AM
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> >
> >
> > > This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a
> > > copy. Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's
> > > Sesame Street as the next track.
> > >
> > > So here goes >>>>>>
> > >
> > > http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown
> > > .m
> > > p3
> > >
> > > If you have a copy please mail me.
> > >
> > > Duncan
> > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

>>>looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
>>>i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)


you're having a laugh m8,  expect to pay £100 - even for the Black label

A Section 5 copy could be more - if you can find one.



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

I think we need some facts in this thread.

Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal samples the
tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.

The test presses came out - the pink label ones

Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But cause
of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another

The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work - so
its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a few
problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.

So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much for a
black label copy given the issues noted above.

As for £30 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal version
which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
vocals.


Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits up
on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the label
black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may know
;o)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


> if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS ones
> then ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
> £50-£100+.
> there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg these
> are a bit cheaper £30+.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> >
> > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> >
> > anyone?
> >
> > cheers,
> > adam (exT)
> > http://electros.dhs.org
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

lol, its amazing how Finest Illusion manages to generate continual
conversations year after year on the OS list...

must be THE most talked about tune of all time !



-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 February 2003 17:27
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


I think we need some facts in this thread.

Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal samples the
tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.

The test presses came out - the pink label ones

Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But cause
of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another

The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work - so
its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a few
problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.

So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much for a
black label copy given the issues noted above.

As for £30 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal version
which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
vocals.


Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits up
on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the label
black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may know
;o)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


> if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS ones
> then ;-)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
> £50-£100+.
> there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg these
> are a bit cheaper £30+.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> >
> > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> >
> > anyone?
> >
> > cheers,
> > adam (exT)
> > http://electros.dhs.org
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


And I've resigned myself to never having a copy because it is so popular.
No way can I pay 100 squid for a tune.

However, I am somewhat satisfied with my legal MS copy. THe vocals are
sweet though. Someone could make a killing if they could repress that
tune.

cheers

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:

> lol, its amazing how Finest Illusion manages to generate continual
> conversations year after year on the OS list...
>
> must be THE most talked about tune of all time !
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 01 February 2003 17:27
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> I think we need some facts in this thread.
>
> Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal samples =
the
> tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.
>
> The test presses came out - the pink label ones
>
> Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But cau=
se
> of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
> proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another
>
> The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work - =
so
> its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a fe=
w
> problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.
>
> So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much fo=
r a
> black label copy given the issues noted above.
>
> As for =A330 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal versio=
n
> which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
> vocals.
>
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits =
up
> on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
> ,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the lab=
el
> black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
> mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may kn=
ow
> ;o)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> > if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS o=
nes
> > then ;-)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
> > =A350-=A3100+.
> > there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg the=
se
> > are a bit cheaper =A330+.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> > Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> > >
> > > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> > >
> > > anyone?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > adam (exT)
> > > http://electros.dhs.org
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

i was lucky enough to get a mint copy from 2 bad mice last year, (a few
people did from the B2VOS forum) - still cost me £40 though.

plus the bonus of Screwface on the flip, which is another wicked track.



Hardcore - U Know the Score
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan Lee" <rylee@cloudfactory.org>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion



And I've resigned myself to never having a copy because it is so popular.
No way can I pay 100 squid for a tune.

However, I am somewhat satisfied with my legal MS copy. THe vocals are
sweet though. Someone could make a killing if they could repress that
tune.

cheers

On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:

> lol, its amazing how Finest Illusion manages to generate continual
> conversations year after year on the OS list...
>
> must be THE most talked about tune of all time !
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 01 February 2003 17:27
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> I think we need some facts in this thread.
>
> Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal samples
the
> tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.
>
> The test presses came out - the pink label ones
>
> Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But
cause
> of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
> proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another
>
> The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work -
so
> its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a few
> problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.
>
> So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much for
a
> black label copy given the issues noted above.
>
> As for £30 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal version
> which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
> vocals.
>
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits
up
> on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
> ,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the
label
> black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
> mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may
know
> ;o)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
>
>
> > if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS
ones
> > then ;-)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
> > £50-£100+.
> > there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg
these
> > are a bit cheaper £30+.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> > Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> > >
> > > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> > >
> > > anyone?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > adam (exT)
> > > http://electros.dhs.org
> > >
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Subject: (oldschool) Face Of The Future CD

Anyone in the UK have this?  Is your copy mixed?  I just picked up a US
release of this album which claims it's continuously mixed by Grooverider,
and is most definitely not -- it's almost full versions of the tracks back
to back, and a few of them are mislabelled.  Good comp though.

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Subject: (oldschool) Todays finds!

Back on the road tune hunting for 2003 with a fine start :o)

Bass Ballistics - Smoke dis one - J4M (Original mix at last!)
D'Bounce - Vol 1 - Gyroscope
Various - Prime Cuts Vol 1 - Delirious
Lemon D - DJ on wax EP - Planet Earth (Promo copy)
Aurora - Firin on all cylinders - Homegrown (Replaced at last!)
Intense - Drowzee EP - ULR (Marble vinyl promo!)
Zero Zero - World famous killer EP - Kickin
The House Crew - Euphoria (Nino's dream) - Production House
Sound of the future - Fearless wonder (Remix) - Formation
Doc Scott - Drumz 95 - Metalheads
Grace - If I could fly (Bukem remix) - Perfecto

All for a very healthy £45.....

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>>>Aurora - Firin on all cylinders - Homegrown (Replaced at last!)

Baaaaaaaaad tune! often overlooked but this is a fuckin stonker imo!!
i got my copy for 4 quid which i was well chuffed with,


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>Back on the road tune hunting for 2003 with a fine start :o)
>
>Bass Ballistics - Smoke dis one - J4M (Original mix at last!)
>D'Bounce - Vol 1 - Gyroscope
>Various - Prime Cuts Vol 1 - Delirious
>Lemon D - DJ on wax EP - Planet Earth (Promo copy)
>Aurora - Firin on all cylinders - Homegrown (Replaced at last!)
>Intense - Drowzee EP - ULR (Marble vinyl promo!)
>Zero Zero - World famous killer EP - Kickin
>The House Crew - Euphoria (Nino's dream) - Production House
>Sound of the future - Fearless wonder (Remix) - Formation
>Doc Scott - Drumz 95 - Metalheads
>Grace - If I could fly (Bukem remix) - Perfecto
>
>All for a very healthy £45.....
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Todays finds!

man, i just realised that i don't actually go to shops anymore to hunt down
tunes.

whats happening ?  Probably because i'm not in London anymore... but
everything seems to have dried up !

Managed to pick up these bargains from ebay though :-

DJ Smooth & Energy - Sleeping Satellites  £3.99
Skrufneck Vol 1 - £5.19

Dj smooth tune was listed under Rap !!!  What a classic !



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Back on the road tune hunting for 2003 with a fine start :o)

Bass Ballistics - Smoke dis one - J4M (Original mix at last!)
D'Bounce - Vol 1 - Gyroscope
Various - Prime Cuts Vol 1 - Delirious
Lemon D - DJ on wax EP - Planet Earth (Promo copy)
Aurora - Firin on all cylinders - Homegrown (Replaced at last!)
Intense - Drowzee EP - ULR (Marble vinyl promo!)
Zero Zero - World famous killer EP - Kickin
The House Crew - Euphoria (Nino's dream) - Production House
Sound of the future - Fearless wonder (Remix) - Formation
Doc Scott - Drumz 95 - Metalheads
Grace - If I could fly (Bukem remix) - Perfecto

All for a very healthy £45.....

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> >>>Aurora - Firin on all cylinders - Homegrown (Replaced at last!)
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> Baaaaaaaaad tune! often overlooked but this is a fuckin stonker imo!!
> i got my copy for 4 quid which i was well chuffed with,

I originally got mine when it came out, then it was one of the tunes that
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big mve sell out- ouch! sounds painful!





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> > >>>Aurora - Firin on all cylinders - Homegrown (Replaced at last!)
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> > Baaaaaaaaad tune! often overlooked but this is a fuckin stonker imo!!
> > i got my copy for 4 quid which i was well chuffed with,
>
>I originally got mine when it came out, then it was one of the tunes that
>fell foul to my big MVE sell out in 95 :(
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> man, i just realised that i don't actually go to shops anymore to hunt
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> tunes.
>
> whats happening ?  Probably because i'm not in London anymore... but
> everything seems to have dried up !

Last year we went hunting nearly every weekend, but the last few months of
the year it dried up due to lack of cash. But now Ive got a new car, its
time to get on the road again!
As for not being in London anymore, so what? I never hunt in London.... much
more bargains to be had outside the M25 ;op

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Subject: (oldschool) Sonz of a loop da loop era VOCALS

Anybody know which track the vocals from 'Far out' was taken? Even better 
has anyone got an mp3 of it?
Also has anyone got the accapella of 'someday' by ce ce rogers?

I've got some audio gems on my hard disk and i'll sort you some swaps if 
need be.

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YEAH FIRIN ON ALL CYLINDERS  IS BAD - I HAD IT ON MY SITE FOR SALE FOR AGES=20
AT =A315 AND NO ONE BOUGHT IT SO I DECIDED TO KEEP FOR MYSELF!!


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Ive got the black label copy for sale for =A360 if you wants it!

Gazza

> >>>looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> >>>i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
>=20
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> you're having a laugh m8,  expect to pay =A3100 - even for the Black label


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>>>Ive got the black label copy for sale for £60 if you wants it!


watch the stampede....




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

lol - stampede -hehe - I just picked up mayhem - stormtrooper on basement at=
=20
last!!! for a measly =A313.51!!!

Result -been after that for donkeys yonks since moody blagged my copy off of=
=20
me for a fiver along with Raging rockers for a fiver too in the days when i=20
was a little greener than i am now!

Swine! - hehe

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

:)

lol

Btw it has been repressed so make sure your getting an original - there u go
I'm making up for it now :)

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-----Original Message-----
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lol - stampede -hehe - I just picked up mayhem - stormtrooper on basement at
last!!! for a measly £13.51!!!

Result -been after that for donkeys yonks since moody blagged my copy off of
me for a fiver along with Raging rockers for a fiver too in the days when i
was a little greener than i am now!

Swine! - hehe

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

forget the repress tip I didn't read the mail properly - Stormtrooper/Cold
Acid ain't be repressed yet.

Steve
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lol - stampede -hehe - I just picked up mayhem - stormtrooper on basement at
last!!! for a measly £13.51!!!

Result -been after that for donkeys yonks since moody blagged my copy off of
me for a fiver along with Raging rockers for a fiver too in the days when i
was a little greener than i am now!

Swine! - hehe

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

Naw, just be patient. Sooner or later you'll get lucky and get a copy for
10 or 15 quid.


>=20
> And I've resigned myself to never having a copy because it is so popular.
> No way can I pay 100 squid for a tune.
>=20
> However, I am somewhat satisfied with my legal MS copy. THe vocals are
> sweet though. Someone could make a killing if they could repress that
> tune.
>=20
> cheers
>=20
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:
>=20
> > lol, its amazing how Finest Illusion manages to generate continual
> > conversations year after year on the OS list...
> >
> > must be THE most talked about tune of all time !
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 17:27
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > I think we need some facts in this thread.
> >
> > Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal sample=
s the
> > tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.
> >
> > The test presses came out - the pink label ones
> >
> > Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But c=
ause
> > of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
> > proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another
> >
> > The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work =
- so
> > its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a =
few
> > problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.
> >
> > So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much =
for a
> > black label copy given the issues noted above.
> >
> > As for =A330 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal vers=
ion
> > which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
> > vocals.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.nrgized.co.uk
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > www.interface-radio.co.uk
> > Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tit=
s up
> > on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
> > ,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the l=
abel
> > black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the lega=
l
> > mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may =
know
> > ;o)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > > if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS=
 ones
> > > then ;-)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> > >
> > >
> > > you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normal=
ly
> > > =A350-=A3100+.
> > > there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg t=
hese
> > > are a bit cheaper =A330+.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> > >
> > >
> > > > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> > > >
> > > > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> > > >
> > > > anyone?
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > adam (exT)
> > > > http://electros.dhs.org
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

>>Sooner or later

I'm going with that, I saw a copy for a tenner back in 1995 and thought... a
tenner for an old school tune, no way! I'll see it cheaper sooner or later,
doh!

I'd go up to £15 for it nowadays :) sooner or later, but I will get it!!
....


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:37 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


Naw, just be patient. Sooner or later you'll get lucky and get a copy for
10 or 15 quid.


>
> And I've resigned myself to never having a copy because it is so popular.
> No way can I pay 100 squid for a tune.
>
> However, I am somewhat satisfied with my legal MS copy. THe vocals are
> sweet though. Someone could make a killing if they could repress that
> tune.
>
> cheers
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:
>
> > lol, its amazing how Finest Illusion manages to generate continual
> > conversations year after year on the OS list...
> >
> > must be THE most talked about tune of all time !
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 17:27
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > I think we need some facts in this thread.
> >
> > Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal samples
the
> > tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.
> >
> > The test presses came out - the pink label ones
> >
> > Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But
cause
> > of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
> > proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another
> >
> > The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work -
so
> > its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a
few
> > problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.
> >
> > So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much
for a
> > black label copy given the issues noted above.
> >
> > As for £30 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal version
> > which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
> > vocals.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.nrgized.co.uk
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > www.interface-radio.co.uk
> > Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits
up
> > on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
> > ,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the
label
> > black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
> > mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may
know
> > ;o)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > > if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS
ones
> > > then ;-)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> > >
> > >
> > > you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its
normally
> > > £50-£100+.
> > > there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg
these
> > > are a bit cheaper £30+.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> > >
> > >
> > > > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> > > >
> > > > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> > > >
> > > > anyone?
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > adam (exT)
> > > > http://electros.dhs.org
> > > >
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Todays finds!

I'd argue with that =)

Have picked up some peaches in the last few months in MVE and Reckless!

Tango & Dom - Double Visions - £3.50
Babylon Timewarp - Durban Poison - £4
Bay-B-Kane - Hello Darkness - £6
Orca - Dances With Dolphins Vol 2 - £6
Dope On Plastic EP - £6
Static Substance - Ghetto People Remix - £4
DJ Lee - Touch Of Darkness - £5

etc etc!

So long as it's not the MASSIVE tunes, or to put it another way, so long as 
it wasn't released on Moving Shadow, Reinforced or Suburban Base, they 
rarely charge much. Worth checking out now and again mate =)

>As for not being in London anymore, so what? I never hunt in >London.... 
>much
>more bargains to be had outside the M25 ;op
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

yes me and Gary found one for £2 once :)

I would have kept it for myself but Gary owned half of it so we e-bayed it
and split the dosh

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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-----Original Message-----
From: Rollin [mailto:djrollin@gmx.net]
Sent: 03 February 2003 10:31
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


>>Sooner or later

I'm going with that, I saw a copy for a tenner back in 1995 and thought... a
tenner for an old school tune, no way! I'll see it cheaper sooner or later,
doh!

I'd go up to £15 for it nowadays :) sooner or later, but I will get it!!
....


----- Original Message -----
From: "DNE Productions" <damaja@cyberspace.org>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 4:37 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


Naw, just be patient. Sooner or later you'll get lucky and get a copy for
10 or 15 quid.


>
> And I've resigned myself to never having a copy because it is so popular.
> No way can I pay 100 squid for a tune.
>
> However, I am somewhat satisfied with my legal MS copy. THe vocals are
> sweet though. Someone could make a killing if they could repress that
> tune.
>
> cheers
>
> On Sat, 1 Feb 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:
>
> > lol, its amazing how Finest Illusion manages to generate continual
> > conversations year after year on the OS list...
> >
> > must be THE most talked about tune of all time !
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 17:27
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > I think we need some facts in this thread.
> >
> > Section 5 was a sister label to Moving Shadow. Given the illegal samples
the
> > tune was released on Section 5 rather than Moving Shadow.
> >
> > The test presses came out - the pink label ones
> >
> > Some normal release ones were pressed - the section 5 label ones. But
cause
> > of the licening issues on the sample they were pulled so it never got a
> > proper release - obviously the ones pressed got out one way or another
> >
> > The black label "Bootleg" copy was pressed off the original metal work -
so
> > its technically a repress not a bootleg but the pressing encountered a
few
> > problems hence the slight hissing/noise at the start of the track.
> >
> > So all the copies are proper originals - but you shouldn't pay as much
for a
> > black label copy given the issues noted above.
> >
> > As for £30 - you've got no chance - although you'd get the legal version
> > which was released on SHADOW29R2 for that if your happy not having the
> > vocals.
> >
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.nrgized.co.uk
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > www.interface-radio.co.uk
> > Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 11:43
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > i was told they were getting a release on shadow just after it went tits
up
> > on section 5 ( due to the banned sample).this left quite a few copies
> > ,rather than destroying them they etched out the catt no and left the
label
> > black.would have been mid to late 25-30 shadow.then came along the legal
> > mix..how true this is, i dont know. only rob playford and foulplay may
know
> > ;o)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Eddie" <kromozone@yesmate.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 11:20 AM
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> >
> >
> > > if the black label ones are bootlegs, they were pressed before the MS
ones
> > > then ;-)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dj hectic [mailto:zak.newnham1@btinternet.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 7:15 AM
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> > >
> > >
> > > you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its
normally
> > > £50-£100+.
> > > there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg
these
> > > are a bit cheaper £30+.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion
> > >
> > >
> > > > looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
> > > >
> > > > i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
> > > >
> > > > anyone?
> > > >
> > > > cheers,
> > > > adam (exT)
> > > > http://electros.dhs.org
> > > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Todays finds!

Thats pretty damn good prices - you'd be torn to shreds in the stampede if
you offered the Double Visions for sale :)

They now tend to put oldskool out at £5/£6 as a base starting point. They
are useless though - if its on a major label then its double figures even if
its pants - all good underground stuff is dirt cheap at the £5 mark.

The insiders track on their prices system is this:

They keep on database a record of all tunes they ever sell. If they have
never had a tune in before they start it at the base price for that genre,
sometimes they have a little guestimate at price based on the label etc. The
price is then reduced every few weeks if the item doesn't sell.

If they have sold the tune before and the last copy went quickly they add
about £2/£3 to the last price it was sold at and then go through the marking
down process again until it sells.

Its a good system in general as it means after they have had a few copies of
a particular tune they will have worked out the "market value" for it -
without having a clue what the tune is or any knowledge of the genre, and
really without spending any time or effort on it.

Where it all goes wrong it when they get white labels like Extemity EP that
they will never see again and flog it for £5 and are none the wiser that
they have just lost the best part of £95.

In all honesty though it wouldn't be worth their time and effort to learn
the market pricing of oldskool properly as it would take them about a yr of
looking round net, going to other shops and they'd have to do that for every
genre that they sell - then the guy who built up the knowledge would bugger
off and they'd be back to square one.

The thing that is a bit funny with the above is that you can have things at
totally different prices across all 3 stores. I'm not 100% sure they have
installed the technology to share the database across all 3 stores.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
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www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Waight [mailto:zykotik@hotmail.com]
Sent: 03 February 2003 10:55
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I'd argue with that =)

Have picked up some peaches in the last few months in MVE and Reckless!

Tango & Dom - Double Visions - £3.50
Babylon Timewarp - Durban Poison - £4
Bay-B-Kane - Hello Darkness - £6
Orca - Dances With Dolphins Vol 2 - £6
Dope On Plastic EP - £6
Static Substance - Ghetto People Remix - £4
DJ Lee - Touch Of Darkness - £5

etc etc!

So long as it's not the MASSIVE tunes, or to put it another way, so long as
it wasn't released on Moving Shadow, Reinforced or Suburban Base, they
rarely charge much. Worth checking out now and again mate =)

>As for not being in London anymore, so what? I never hunt in >London....
>much
>more bargains to be had outside the M25 ;op
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: (oldschool) KFA003 The True Skool EP on Ebay!

KFA - The True Skool EP (KFA003)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

jude on a ragga tip


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> i heard this before, it's got a stupid name. That has got to be the most
> cheesiest tune i've ever heard!!! LOL
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "duncan" <duncandettmer@blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:43 PM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
>
>
> > www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/UNKNOWN.mp3
> >
> > The filename has to be in upper case, UNKNOWN.mp3, this is a IE bug.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
> > Sent: 01 February 2003 12:40
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> >
> >
> > still gettting a 404 file not found.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "duncan" <duncandettmer@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:37 PM
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> >
> >
> > > Wraparound
> > > http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.m
> > > p3
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Adam [mailto:adamcr@rogers.com]
> > > Sent: 01 February 2003 01:01
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> > >
> > >
> > > file not found
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "duncan" <duncandettmer@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:02 AM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a
> > > > copy. Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's
> > > > Sesame Street as the next track.
> > > >
> > > > So here goes >>>>>>
> > > >
> > > > http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown
> > > > .m
> > > > p3
> > > >
> > > > If you have a copy please mail me.
> > > >
> > > > Duncan
> > > >
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Subject: Fw: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

from the alt.rave faq list:


mjbrown@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU

I was at a rave 2 weeks ago when the dj played a rave version of the
Beatles' song HEY JUDE. I don't know if the dj was mixing or if this rave
version exits on CD somewhere. Does anyone know if this is available
anywhere on CD or cassette?

The initial release, on black vinyl with a red label, was released initally
to dance specialty stores, but Michael Jackson's music publishing business,
which owns the rights to the Beatles catalog, heard about it and demanded
they be pulled. These original 12"'s have garnered as much as $100 in trade.
A bootleg was released a short time later, called "Jude on a Ragga Tip" (for
the song is really just someone with a good sense of timing playing both
"Hey Jude" and "On a Ragga Tip" by SL2, with MBM samples thrown in) and was
backed with "How Does it Feel?" by Electroset (a song which eventually did
get official permission for its sampling of "Blue Monday").



Jay


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> jude on a ragga tip
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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>
>
> > i heard this before, it's got a stupid name. That has got to be the most
> > cheesiest tune i've ever heard!!! LOL
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "duncan" <duncandettmer@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:43 PM
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> >
> >
> > > www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/UNKNOWN.mp3
> > >
> > > The filename has to be in upper case, UNKNOWN.mp3, this is a IE bug.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
> > > Sent: 01 February 2003 12:40
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> > >
> > >
> > > still gettting a 404 file not found.
> > >
> > >
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> > > Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 12:37 PM
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> > >
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> > > > Wraparound
> > > >
http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.m
> > > > p3
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Adam [mailto:adamcr@rogers.com]
> > > > Sent: 01 February 2003 01:01
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > file not found
> > > >
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> > > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:02 AM
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> > > > > This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a
> > > > > copy. Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's
> > > > > Sesame Street as the next track.
> > > > >
> > > > > So here goes >>>>>>
> > > > >
> > > > >
http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown
> > > > > .m
> > > > > p3
> > > > >
> > > > > If you have a copy please mail me.
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In a message dated 03/02/2003 11:32:57 GMT Standard Time,=20
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> yes me and Gary found one for =A32 once :)

lol - that must have been the time i drowned in my own bullshit

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

yes it was the time you drowned -  "all my tunes have been stolen" - lol -
the PHD geezer

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
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Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


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In a message dated 03/02/2003 11:32:57 GMT Standard Time,
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> yes me and Gary found one for £2 once :)

lol - that must have been the time i drowned in my own bullshit

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) my mates remix of Doc Scott - NHS - what do you think

I quite like it... kind-of less a remix and more a load of reasonably
sizeable chunks from the original cut up with a few new bits over the top!
All good fun though and I'd happily jump around to it on a night out.


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> My mates remix of Doc Scott - NHS - what do you think ?
> Made using Soundforge and Reason.
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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Soulseek

Hi,
Has anyone else been unable to connect to SoulSeek the last couple of days
or is it just me?
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the guy who runs it is doing ok , but it does that occasionally, see at 
www.slsk.net if he changed wesites again or upgraded the app, last time i was 
off it for 5 days and those were other people also who did not know but i got 
told in then end that it was cos of the last upgrade.
he tries to lose us to unload the servers. or else he went to see his granny 
for the week and the server called it a day.

> 
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> Has anyone else been unable to connect to SoulSeek the last couple of days
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Please ID this "Good Tune":
 
http://real.xperienceonline.com/unknown/Unknown
<http://real.xperienceonline.com/unknown/Unknown%20-%20Good%20Tune.ram>
- Good Tune.ram
 
Thanks.
 
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 <http://www.xperienceonline.com> www.xperienceonline.com
You Know The Xperience...
 

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its been up and down

j


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> Hi,
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Got a few unknowns here from Fabio & Grooverider @ Dreamscape 8 (NYE =
93/94)

Some of them I know but have forgotten. Sorry about the low bitrate.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown01.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown02.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown03.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown04.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown05.rm - Possibly =
FBD Project - The Core? Anyone confirm?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown06.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown07.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown08.rm - The beats =
on this remind me of Cold Fresh Air...

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http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3D7730

DJ Deluxe

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4 more tunes that need ID added today, please take a look....

http://uk.geocities.com/spalld141074/Dames_Old_Skool_Page.htm

thanks for your help,

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fabio & Grooverider Unknowns

I know most of em but not by name :(
You were right about #5 tho, it is the core.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IDs required..

Hope these help mate ;o)

> http://uk.geocities.com/spalld141074/Dames_Old_Skool_Page.htm

18)Bass Balistics - Smoke dis one - J4M (J4M006)
19)Nick OD - Jazzy hardcore - Reinforced

Cant get the others cause the data transfer limit has been reached!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fabio & Grooverider Unknowns

OK, I've ID'd most of these now thanks to JJ on the KF forum, but I still
need to ID #3...


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Got a few unknowns here from Fabio & Grooverider @ Dreamscape 8 (NYE 93/94)

Some of them I know but have forgotten. Sorry about the low bitrate.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown01.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown02.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown03.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown04.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown05.rm - Possibly FBD
Project - The Core? Anyone confirm?
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown06.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown07.rm
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown08.rm - The beats on
this remind me of Cold Fresh Air...

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oi! you've missed my show off of the list.
thanks a lot! and you've even tuned into it before!

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http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7730

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fabio & Grooverider Unknowns

> OK, I've ID'd most of these now thanks to JJ on the KF forum,
So what are they all then?


> Got a few unknowns here from Fabio & Grooverider @ Dreamscape 8 (NYE
93/94)
>
> Some of them I know but have forgotten. Sorry about the low bitrate.
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown01.rm
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown02.rm
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown03.rm
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown04.rm
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown05.rm - Possibly FBD
> Project - The Core? Anyone confirm?
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown06.rm
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown07.rm
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/eduard.fearns/fg_unknown08.rm - The beats on
> this remind me of Cold Fresh Air...


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fabio & Grooverider Unknowns

unknown 01 is DOPE - the Quickening - Rugged Vinyl 07

unknown 02 is DJ Nut Nut - the Rumble - Production House - green vinyl 10"

unknown 3 definitely has that Intanatty tune mixed into it - Prototype 001

unknown 06 might be a mix of the Killer by Ratty

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dj destiny(martyn) please let me know if you still want trade those 2 =
tunes.asap.
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Subject: (oldschool) OLD SKOOL - 2-X-TREME - X-TREMITY EP - RARE 

For those with money to burn.
2-X-TREME - X-TREMITY EP

Item # 2505026046 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=14216&item=2505
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Nearly a hundred squid ! I might sell mine next week if it gets any
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> > OK, I've ID'd most of these now thanks to JJ on the KF forum,
> So what are they all then?

1)Intense - The Quickening - Rugged Vinyl
2)Nut Nut + Pure Science - The Rumble - Production House
4)Essence of Aura - Distortion Cut - Outstanding Records DIS001
5)FBD Project - The Core - Bang In Tunes
6)Ratty - Source of all Evil - Formation
7)Doc Scott - Rage - Reinforced
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Subject: (oldschool) Ebass Records

Did anyone order anything from Ebass Records?  I put an order in and have had 
no tunes in  over 2 months since cheque cleared and my emails are getting 
bounced back as undeliverable

Does anyone know who runs it?

Gazza

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Subject: (oldschool) MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras NYC styl.

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Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras NYC style
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Despite being an experience that was born deep in tradition, no one knows=20
exactly how the Mardi Gras carnival came into being. Some scholars say it's=20
origin can be traced to the orgies that were held in the Roman Empire - but=20
then again, that could be pure speculation.=20
Nevertheless, we know that in the early 1700's the French of New Orleans wer=
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holding elaborate balls where guests were encouraged to wear a mask. But whe=
n=20
the Spanish government took over, parties and street dancing were banned.=20
Imagine that!
It wasn't until 1827, when Americans were in power, that the right to party=20
in masks was restored, and with this new found freedom, elite parties began=20
resurfacing again.
In many ways, this history parallels our own scene and culture and provides=20
hope for our future.=A0 Come celebrate with us the joy that is music, and th=
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spirit that is Mardi Gras!


Main Room

Live performance (CD Release Party For "Alone" )
Space Girl-Topaz Records, Hard Beat Records, At Large- NYC- Moscow

King Of Booty- House on 4 turntables w/=A0 Funk's specially delivered booty=20
dancers straight from Bourbon Street.=20
DJ Funk -=A0 Dusttraxx - Funk Records

The King Of Ghetto-tech
Disco D-Tommy Boy Rec., Booty Bar- Detroit /NYC

Tony Draper-Exit2-NYC

David Hollands-Minimalwage-NYC

Special Old Skool Techno Set
Rob Gee- Adam Recordings - NYC-NJ

Pleasurehead- Stuck On Earth, Topaz Records- NYC

Matthew Xavier-Stuck On Earth-Long Island, NY

Alex Pearce-Touched By a DJ-NYC

Special Guest MC For the Night
Ron Jeremy- Hedgehog-LA=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 (www.ronjeremy-themovie.com)
In 1978, Ron Jeremy's girlfriend sent a nude photo of him to "Playgirl=20
Magazine", where he was instantly recognized for his natural attributes. The=
y=20
published it in a feature called "the boy next door", his "gift" not only go=
t=20
Ron attention from admiring female readers, but offers from adult film=20
producers. Before long, this special education teacher, with a masters degre=
e=20
from Queens College, dropped everything to become a porn star.=A0 Ron's care=
er=20
in the adult industry has so far spanned over 20 years and 1600 titles, and=20
counting. He not only appears in front of the camera, but directs and=20
produces porn, consults on projects like "Boogie Nights" and "9 1/2 Weeks,"=20
and works a relentless stream of public appearances. Ron has been inducted=20
into the X-Rated Critics Hall of Fame and his prints (handprints) are=20
immortalized in cement on Sunset Boulevard. .Ron has been trying to get his=20
legitimate acting career back on its feet and accepts even the briefest role=
s=20
in mainstream films like "Detroit Rock City," "Killing Zoe," and "American=20
Virgin."=A0=20
We thought it would be great to add Ron to this event and make it more a=20
memorable night, Ron will hanging out all night taking pictures and singing=20
autographs


Special Guest Host
Inari Vachs & Friends-Playboy, Vivid Video-LA=A0 (www.inarivachs.com)
Porn Star Inari Vachs is a gorgeous brunette who's taken the hardcore=20
industry by storm since entering the business in late 1997. She's an=20
absolutely scrumptious beauty with a tight all-natural figure that's topped=20
with a pair of perfectly shaped medium-sized boobs. Inari Vachs has the face=
=20
of a supermodel, with a killer smile and a slightly frazzled haircut that=20
comes straight from the 'Friends' set. Her delicious figure and stunning goo=
d=20
looks get her noticed, and her insatiable sexual antics keep fans riveted to=
=20
the screen whenever she appears. Inari Vachs broke into the hardcore ranks i=
n=20
a big way, stepping right into some white-hot hardcore features without=20
spending too much time in the pro-am ranks. She's simply too attractive to=20
play second fiddle to anyone, and it was obvious from her first appearances=20
that Inari was something special. nari Vachs sure to be one of the top=20
starlets of her era.Inari & friends will be will hanging out all night takin=
g=20
pictures and singing autographs




Drum-N-Bass Room

Kenny Ken w/ mc Armanni Reign- (mix 'n' blen' , uk)=20
(5sighted,substitution,gasm, Philly)
One of the most outstanding and acclaimed drum and bass djs to date.=A0 He
comes from the generation that brought you Grooverider, Fabio, SS, GQ, Doc
Scott and others.=A0 He is known for his amazing ear and uncanny ability to
make a better tune out of a great one.=A0 His label Mix 'n' Blen pushes the
boundaries of dancefloor d n b while staying true to it's dub style flavor
best exemplified by the monster anthem "Everyman".

Odi-G-force,Koncrete Jungle-NYC

Kech-Stuck On Earth, Reeespect-NYC

Gil-T- True Prodcutions- New England

Krazy Glue Vs. Shane- Drum-n-Breaks- Long Island, NY

Drae 192- Break Junkies- NYC

Woogie-Unity Productions-NYC

Ed Vaz - Stuck On Earth



House Of Love

Chris Love, Billy Belmont & Just Honey- Tree House Rec, Stuck On Earth- NYC

Johnny Fame & Circuit Breaker-718 Records, Hard To Swallow- NYC-Philly

Knowlegde (www.ColumnsofKnowledge.com, Columns of Knowledge Recordings, CT)
Official CD release party for "Live @ Boo 7"=20

Mercy Killah- DUB-NYC

Jenn Mass- Vitus Productions, Adam Recordings, Tristate Hardcore NYC
SYKOPATH vs Frazzle- Adam Recordings-NJKosmic Hustler vs. Xenol Smart- 611=20
Rec., Stuck On Earth-Philly=20
DJ PHRITZ VS. PROPHET-digital entrapment) djphritz.com

Prime a.k.a Ritalin vs. Soul Assassin vs. Dj Definition- Bass Connection-Lon=
g=20
Island/NYC

Goodfella- Liquid Fire Productions, Groove Network, Mars Graf-x


Venue
The Incredible "Lunatarium"
10 Jay St.
Dumbo, Brooklyn

A NEW SPOT IS GROWING ON THE ARTSCENE OF NEW YORK CITY AND ITS IN DUMBO,=20
BROOKLYN, A TIGHT-KNIT COMMUNITY OF ARTISTS AND MUSICIANS. THE LABORATORY IS=
=20
A 20,000 SQ. FT. PENTHOUSE SPACE WITH GORGEOUS VIEWS OF DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN=20
AND MIXES ELEMENTS OF MUSEUM, GALLERY, THEATER AND DANCE CLUB FOR AN=20
ONSLAUGHT OF STIMULI SURE TO LEAVE YOUR MIND, BODY AND SPIRIT REELING. IT'S=20
CALLED THE LUNATARIUM AND IT IS NEW YORK CITY'S LATEST LOCUS FOR ILLUMINATIN=
G=20
THE UNITY AMONG THE ARTS IN A CELEBRATION OF INDIVIDUAL EXPRESSION AND=20
EXPLORATION. A LABORATORY TEEMING WITH MUSIC, DANCE, FILM, VIDEO,=20
INSTALLATIONS AND PERFORMANCE ART, THE LUNATARIUM PRIDES ITSELF IN CONVERGIN=
G=20
THE LATEST IN MULTIMEDIA ART IN THE CONTEXT OF A SPACE LARGE ENOUGH TO HOLD=20
1,500 SEMANTICALLY STARVED DENIZENS.

THEME
If you cant make it down to new Orleans this year for Mardi Gras, don't worr=
y=20
we are bringing Mardi Gras to you!
This will be a special event, fulfilling all your Mardi Gras needs.
Prizes for those who have the most beads by the end of the night, and for=20
those of you who have never been to Mardi Gras, quality is a big issue. The=20
more extravagant and unique the beads, the better!
(we will be giving out free beads as you enter the event, be we suggest you=20
bring your own too)

DIRECTIONS
Subway: Take the F to York St and make a right at Jay St. and walk down to=20
John St. or from the A/C at High St. Walk down Washington St., make a right=20
on Front St and a left on Jay St. and walk down to John St.

Car: Take Brooklyn Bridge across East River, make right onto Prospect St.,=20
left onto Jay St. drive down to John St.

www.mapquest.com

DOORS OPEN @ 8PM=20
18 TO ENTER 21 TO DRINK


Ticket Price
$25 in advance

**PLEASE PURCHASE TICKETS IN ADVANCE. BE SURE TO ONLY PURCHACE TICKETS FROM=20
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      18) You wanna smoke something??? 18) Unknown Clip For ID - Tune 18


smoke dis orig- bass ballistics ep- J4M recs

      16) Take Me To The Top - Early Dreamscape Tape?? 16) Unknown Clip For
ID - Tune 16


to the top- chromatic ep - ruff on wax recs

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> 4 more tunes that need ID added today, please take a look....
>
> http://uk.geocities.com/spalld141074/Dames_Old_Skool_Page.htm
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Subject: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras


What is it about these US party fliers - they are sooo long. Its like 
reading a small book. The one above had a whole article about two porn stars 
(furry muff...it tis a Mardi Gras). Is this normal?

Dread to think what its like coming out of a club at 5am to the usual army 
of flyer touts....reminds me of delivering sunday newspapers when I was a 
ute. (I will never forgive the Sunday Times for that extra shoulder ache).





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Subject: (oldschool) Raving in Bali?

Recommended

Bali really needs tourism right now, accomodation a bargain (20USD for your 
own villa, sunken bath, nice balcony) and heaps and heaps of fit women. Had 
a blinding few days.

Do not go to the Psy trance party held every Thursday though, infact never 
go to a Psy trance party period imo. Shite wanky music which not even a few 
jimmies can rectify.

ramble finished

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras

> What is it about these US party fliers - they are sooo long.
Yeah and they're not really old-school related at all.
OK so that last one has one "old school techno set" happening, but that
hardly makes it relevant to this list.


> (I will never forgive the Sunday Times for that extra shoulder ache).
lol yeah and you had to post it in about 6 sections cos it wouldn't fit
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Hi
We all wait for our tunes. :( I think the girls name is really Erika Bass.=
 Check this thread in b2vos forum: http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic=
.php=3Ft=3D7689


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE Stuck On Earth presents
 Mardi Gras NYC styl.

BLA BLA zzzZZZzz... who's gonna read all that??

Wasn't the mardi gras all about the Jazz?  when you see the footage of new 
orleans in the 40's.. thousands of people in the streets all jivin' n stuff. 
  It looks like a great atmosphere like some random massive gathering of 
party people.  Now that's a real OLDskool rave ;)



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras

we must be able to protect ourselves from this continued spamming. What
happens when other arsewipes start absusing the list. Can't we ban this,
filter it out?

Other option is we totally overwhelm this guy with return spam mail - anyone
up for that post your ideas away.

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-----Original Message-----
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> What is it about these US party fliers - they are sooo long.
Yeah and they're not really old-school related at all.
OK so that last one has one "old school techno set" happening, but that
hardly makes it relevant to this list.


> (I will never forgive the Sunday Times for that extra shoulder ache).
lol yeah and you had to post it in about 6 sections cos it wouldn't fit
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> we must be able to protect ourselves from this continued spamming. What
> happens when other arsewipes start absusing the list. Can't we ban this,
> filter it out?


Entropy has the power to ban and remove, but he seldom seems to use it on
this type of spam!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras

I guess the question really is does RattPackNY actually have an interest
read the list, or is it just blocked and the subscription is only to let
spam be posted.
RattPackNY are you there?  Do you ever read this?

If no answer then I reckon Entropy should ban.  Or we could start a spam
campaign, which might be fun... if it's a mailbox that ever gets read.

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> we must be able to protect ourselves from this continued spamming. What
> happens when other arsewipes start absusing the list. Can't we ban this,
> filter it out?
>
> Other option is we totally overwhelm this guy with return spam mail -
anyone
> up for that post your ideas away.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 06 February 2003 09:56
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE Stuck On
> Earth presents Mardi Gras
>
>
> > What is it about these US party fliers - they are sooo long.
> Yeah and they're not really old-school related at all.
> OK so that last one has one "old school techno set" happening, but that
> hardly makes it relevant to this list.
>
>
> > (I will never forgive the Sunday Times for that extra shoulder ache).
> lol yeah and you had to post it in about 6 sections cos it wouldn't fit
> through a letter box all in one go.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras

how many posts have you seen from RattpackNY that ain't spamming us some
unwanted advertising for events that are (for most of us) 2,000 miles away.

QED - should be banned immediately.

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I guess the question really is does RattPackNY actually have an interest
read the list, or is it just blocked and the subscription is only to let
spam be posted.
RattPackNY are you there?  Do you ever read this?

If no answer then I reckon Entropy should ban.  Or we could start a spam
campaign, which might be fun... if it's a mailbox that ever gets read.

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> we must be able to protect ourselves from this continued spamming. What
> happens when other arsewipes start absusing the list. Can't we ban this,
> filter it out?
>
> Other option is we totally overwhelm this guy with return spam mail -
anyone
> up for that post your ideas away.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com]
> Sent: 06 February 2003 09:56
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE Stuck On
> Earth presents Mardi Gras
>
>
> > What is it about these US party fliers - they are sooo long.
> Yeah and they're not really old-school related at all.
> OK so that last one has one "old school techno set" happening, but that
> hardly makes it relevant to this list.
>
>
> > (I will never forgive the Sunday Times for that extra shoulder ache).
> lol yeah and you had to post it in about 6 sections cos it wouldn't fit
> through a letter box all in one go.
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No oldskool, lots of hardcore :-D

Oh, well, i suppose Alec Empire's Destroyer contains some mad '93 =
breakbeat stuff *grins*

Mostly though, its all the mad breakbeat repressed back catalogue from =
www.digitalhardcore.com on 12" and lots of stuff from i-tunes, mostly =
KFA stuff and a few tunes on raw elements, and of course my fave =
hardcore tune of the mo, Uplifts "Brutal".

Anyone got Aurora Firin up on all cylinders (HG001) for sale?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE  Stuck On Earth presents Mardi Gras

Well yeah I agree... was just trying to sound reasonable.

There are people who lurk on the list because they're interested but don't
post at all so if Rattpackny is one of them then we could just have a
no-spam campaign rather than banning straight away.
But yeah its all crap we've ever had innit.  And shy people don't spam.
I bet the raves are shit too.
Have you seen the other people he spams... "Ohio Party Kids" and "Omaha
Ravers"
The mind boggles what the crowd must be like... a load of day-glo kids with
the odd geriatric like us I guess.

Actually that describes most raves these days I suppose.

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> how many posts have you seen from RattpackNY that ain't spamming us some
> unwanted advertising for events that are (for most of us) 2,000 miles
away.
>
> QED - should be banned immediately.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com]
> Sent: 06 February 2003 12:34
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE Stuck On
> Earth presents Mardi Gras
>
>
> I guess the question really is does RattPackNY actually have an interest
> read the list, or is it just blocked and the subscription is only to let
> spam be posted.
> RattPackNY are you there?  Do you ever read this?
>
> If no answer then I reckon Entropy should ban.  Or we could start a spam
> campaign, which might be fun... if it's a mailbox that ever gets read.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:43 AM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE Stuck On
> Earth presents Mardi Gras
>
>
> > we must be able to protect ourselves from this continued spamming. What
> > happens when other arsewipes start absusing the list. Can't we ban this,
> > filter it out?
> >
> > Other option is we totally overwhelm this guy with return spam mail -
> anyone
> > up for that post your ideas away.
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.nrgized.co.uk
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > www.interface-radio.co.uk
> > Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kev Keenoy [mailto:kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com]
> > Sent: 06 February 2003 09:56
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: MARDI GRAS MARCH 15 FULL INFO HERE Stuck On
> > Earth presents Mardi Gras
> >
> >
> > > What is it about these US party fliers - they are sooo long.
> > Yeah and they're not really old-school related at all.
> > OK so that last one has one "old school techno set" happening, but that
> > hardly makes it relevant to this list.
> >
> >
> > > (I will never forgive the Sunday Times for that extra shoulder ache).
> > lol yeah and you had to post it in about 6 sections cos it wouldn't fit
> > through a letter box all in one go.
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he's right there... 
the place has got tons to see, it's a playground, but it's half surfer dudes 
so trying to bring over a system and network a new style of rave there could 
have some prospect but possibly would fall flat... idm, underground tunes of 
some sort may be too confusing 
for the surfers. the women are fit tho.


> Recommended
> 
> Bali really needs tourism right now, accomodation a bargain (20USD for your 
> 
> own villa, sunken bath, nice balcony) and heaps and heaps of fit women. Had 
> 
> a blinding few days.
> 
> Do not go to the Psy trance party held every Thursday though, infact never 
> go to a Psy trance party period imo. Shite wanky music which not even a few 
> 
> jimmies can rectify.
> 
> ramble finished
> 
> cheers


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Subject: (oldschool) Basement 32

Electronic Experienced - I.Q. / More I.Q. 

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i have em both on mp3 not sure i got enough space on my server to upload em 
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Subject: (oldschool) Leviticus The Burial Philly Blunt 001 *MINT* 

For those that care.


Leviticus The Burial Philly Blunt 001 *MINT* 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Leviticus The Burial Philly Blunt 001 *MINT*

tired of the original, personally, but here in Toronto last night I saw 
Mystical Influence playing an oldskool set

he opened up with a VIP dubplate of Burial with Sweetie Irie vocals overtop

wicked

anyone heard it before?

cheers

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any one need any of these,
FOR SALE/TRADE,
n-joi-the anthem-deconstruction pt44446 1991,
stop press-buckarood boy/inspiration/helium(dj mercy mix)-b hive recs =
001 1992,
cosmo & dibs-star eyes/up keys-moving shadow 8-1991,
"x"cert-rising to the bass-limited edition-ck01-1992,
sy kick-hysteria ep-hard & pure-12hpr004-1993,
the pied piper-hooked on hope ep-absolute 2-abs 002dj-1991,
newton-club class ep-rhythm section-newt2001-1991,
newton-the basic ep-rhythm section-rsec008-1992,
basic rhythm-nurosis-reinforced-rivrt1215-1992,
one ii one-legend-reinforced-rivet 1228-1992,
nookie-give a little love-reinforced-river 1255-1992,
isotonik-different strokes-ffrr recs-tabx101-1991,
sonz of a loop da loop era-futher out-subbase008r-1991,
sublove-underground ep-earth recs-earthx7t-1992,
sublove-always on my mind-earth recs-earthx8t-1992,
aurora-the sunshine ep-arrenalin recs-tir001-1992,
after dark-the after dark ep-orbital recs-12 orbit 6-1991,
tttm pt 1(suspect white label not sure if original)-pnto42-1992,
shades of rhythm-extasy ep-zang24t-1991,
ffrr clasics vol 4-inc zero b-lock up,
sounds of the future -fear of the future ep-formation12028-1993,
sounds of the future -"                             =
"rmx-formation12031-1993,
mc tantur&bay b kane-dark & delicious ep-kikman007-1993,
vicious vinyl-the communal mind ep-obs003-1992,
basement phil-we can rock it ep-basement recs009-1992,
3 way split & dj easygroove-summers groove-wtp003-1992,
orca-dances with dolphins vol 1-white-orca 1-1992,
the rude boy project-crack of dawn-symphony sounds 006-1993,
force mass motion remix ep-rabbit city 004-1992,
quaterback-dis so fine-pursuit recs002-1992,
soundman recs 2r-hi fi power-smrs2tr-1993,
soundman recs  6-arabian knights-smrs6t-1993,
new class a-living dream-promo-cd2-1991/2,
higher octave-full logic controll ep-prone 14t-1993,
chris paul-orange on black vol 1-music is my life-oonb-1993/4,
violator vol 1(tango)-vi001-1993,
10 yrs of moving shadow-10.02-(ltd 2500)-blame/2 bad mice/kaotic =
chemistry,
yello magic orchestra-altern 8 mix-liarx2-1992,
naughty trax vol 1-rugged vinyl-rugged6-1993,
ruffkut recs -gh3-information center mixes-2X10"-1993,
the vibes ep-sola power recs-spw001-1002/3,
bay b kane-twilight zone rmx-kikman 14-1993/4,
moby-go-woodtick mix-foot15-1991,
nu-matic-hardtimes-xlt27-1992,
a.e.k-bad bwoy breakout ep-bass sphere-12sph018-1992,
labello blanco-strictly rockers-strictly rockin-lb12-1991/2,
twin bass & naz aka naz-bass project-786 approved 12-1991/2,
untold force-786 approved 27-1992,
????????labello blanco 10-1991/2,
intouch recs-hoppa bones-int3-1993,

krazy kid&uncle-dickturpin rmx-cf001-1992/3,
double b ep-white-5 track -1992,
choci-phantastic orgasms-hardtimes 92-ccoo2-1992,
the enigmatist-headcase ep-bizarre recs-bizz8-1992,
limited e-orange e-cw005-1992,
randall&andy c-sound control remix-ramm11r-1995,
desired state-beyond bass rmx-ramm007r-1994,
tc berry 1992-r&s recs-rs92028-1992,
double dipped recs-the dipped ep-dd001-1992,
the klf-america what time is love-klfusa4x-1992,
renk records 006-mental & dangerous-xtrosy-1992,
big giant rec-bgspd01-summer vibrations ep-1992,
floor filler-so much joy-sound entity1207-1993,
shut up and dance recs 15/21.22.
thanks,
zak.

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Ok, so I was wondering if there was any ebayers on this list with a Paypal
account that can help me out. Here's the story.......

This dude bought my copy of Pennywise off me on ebay, but he wants to pay
with a check in sterling, which I can't cash because I'm over here in the
US. He can't pay via Paypal cause he has no credit cards, and geting an
international money order in US$$ would cost him 15 quid or something
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here is where you come in.....This guy sends you the check, you cash it,
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If someone could help me out with this, I would really appreciate it.
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Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
Best event ive played at for years.
500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was permenantly
rammed! :)
Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
But now it seems hes just milking it.
He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been hammered to
death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or enjoyment.
As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt care to be
there or not.....
Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall, to which
he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)

Terrorize - Just a feeling
Elevation - Can you feel it
SL2 - On a ragga tip
Prodigy - Charlie says
Sonz of - Far out
Edge 1
Dont go
Manix - Feel real good
[Trancy crap]
[Trancy crap]
[Trancy crap]
Sweet harmony

Not exactly ground breaking was it?!

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What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was exactly
the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's such a
shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be done
about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck what
people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt that
you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have said
something.


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> Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> Best event ive played at for years.
> 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was permenantly
> rammed! :)
> Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> But now it seems hes just milking it.
> He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been hammered
to
> death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
enjoyment.
> As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt care to
be
> there or not.....
> Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall, to
which
> he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)
>
> Terrorize - Just a feeling
> Elevation - Can you feel it
> SL2 - On a ragga tip
> Prodigy - Charlie says
> Sonz of - Far out
> Edge 1
> Dont go
> Manix - Feel real good
> [Trancy crap]
> [Trancy crap]
> [Trancy crap]
> Sweet harmony
>
> Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
>
>
>
>
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Yeah, he doesn't want to send cash, it's all good. This way I get my money
faster, he get's his tune faster. Moral of story is, anybody who does
trading on ebay should get themselves a fucking Paypal account. It makes
things a whole lot smoother.



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont fuckin
moan either.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 PM
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> What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was
exactly
> the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's such a
> shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be done
> about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck what
> people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt that
> you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have said
> something.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "Oldschool Mailing List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:21 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
> > Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> > Best event ive played at for years.
> > 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was permenantly
> > rammed! :)
> > Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> > Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> > But now it seems hes just milking it.
> > He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been hammered
> to
> > death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> > Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
> enjoyment.
> > As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt care
to
> be
> > there or not.....
> > Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall, to
> which
> > he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> > His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)
> >
> > Terrorize - Just a feeling
> > Elevation - Can you feel it
> > SL2 - On a ragga tip
> > Prodigy - Charlie says
> > Sonz of - Far out
> > Edge 1
> > Dont go
> > Manix - Feel real good
> > [Trancy crap]
> > [Trancy crap]
> > [Trancy crap]
> > Sweet harmony
> >
> > Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
> >
> > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > ICQ:     101942966
> > Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> > Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

yeah thats a real cop out set - shame on the slipmatt

what was the croud like though?   lots of oldskool headz ?  or general 
public?


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> well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
> anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont fuckin
> moan either.

Come on Aztek -we know u likes a good row :-)


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

oh man, have you been living in a cave or summat for the last 6 years??? Or
do like hearing the same ratpack set played by various people over and over
and over again?? There are like 2000 wicked tunes from 92-93. Why do we have
to listen to the same 15-20. I think these 'DJs' should appreciate that a
little more.

And for the record, i don't go raving any more for precisely this same
reason!!!


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night


> well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
> anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont fuckin
> moan either.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
> > What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was
> exactly
> > the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's such a
> > shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be done
> > about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck what
> > people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt
that
> > you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have said
> > something.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> > To: "Oldschool Mailing List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:21 PM
> > Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> >
> >
> > > Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> > > Best event ive played at for years.
> > > 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was
permenantly
> > > rammed! :)
> > > Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> > > Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> > > But now it seems hes just milking it.
> > > He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been
hammered
> > to
> > > death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> > > Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
> > enjoyment.
> > > As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt care
> to
> > be
> > > there or not.....
> > > Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall, to
> > which
> > > he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> > > His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)
> > >
> > > Terrorize - Just a feeling
> > > Elevation - Can you feel it
> > > SL2 - On a ragga tip
> > > Prodigy - Charlie says
> > > Sonz of - Far out
> > > Edge 1
> > > Dont go
> > > Manix - Feel real good
> > > [Trancy crap]
> > > [Trancy crap]
> > > [Trancy crap]
> > > Sweet harmony
> > >
> > > Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
> > >
> > > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > > ICQ:     101942966
> > > Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> > > Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) scrap scrap scrap

phwahahahahahah, bring it on baby, i feel sooo passionate about this, it
actually surprises me how wound up i can get about it.


----- Original Message -----
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>
> > well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
> > anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont
fuckin
> > moan either.
>
> Come on Aztek -we know u likes a good row :-)
>
>


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

Just as i thought, "It's all gone quiet over there, it's all gone quite over
there!!!!!"


----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night


> oh man, have you been living in a cave or summat for the last 6 years???
Or
> do like hearing the same ratpack set played by various people over and
over
> and over again?? There are like 2000 wicked tunes from 92-93. Why do we
have
> to listen to the same 15-20. I think these 'DJs' should appreciate that a
> little more.
>
> And for the record, i don't go raving any more for precisely this same
> reason!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricky Haggerty" <rickydj@ntlworld.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
> > well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
> > anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont
fuckin
> > moan either.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> >
> >
> > > What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was
> > exactly
> > > the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's such
a
> > > shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be
done
> > > about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck
what
> > > people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt
> that
> > > you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have said
> > > something.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > To: "Oldschool Mailing List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> > > > Best event ive played at for years.
> > > > 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was
> permenantly
> > > > rammed! :)
> > > > Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> > > > Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> > > > But now it seems hes just milking it.
> > > > He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been
> hammered
> > > to
> > > > death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> > > > Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
> > > enjoyment.
> > > > As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt
care
> > to
> > > be
> > > > there or not.....
> > > > Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall,
to
> > > which
> > > > he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> > > > His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)
> > > >
> > > > Terrorize - Just a feeling
> > > > Elevation - Can you feel it
> > > > SL2 - On a ragga tip
> > > > Prodigy - Charlie says
> > > > Sonz of - Far out
> > > > Edge 1
> > > > Dont go
> > > > Manix - Feel real good
> > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > Sweet harmony
> > > >
> > > > Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
> > > >
> > > > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

Point taken, thought u were a bit of a hater!!!!
All the old skool events ive been at have very varied.....
Sorry mate...bit passionate myself!!
----- Original Message -----
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> Just as i thought, "It's all gone quiet over there, it's all gone quite
over
> there!!!!!"
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:27 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
> > oh man, have you been living in a cave or summat for the last 6 years???
> Or
> > do like hearing the same ratpack set played by various people over and
> over
> > and over again?? There are like 2000 wicked tunes from 92-93. Why do we
> have
> > to listen to the same 15-20. I think these 'DJs' should appreciate that
a
> > little more.
> >
> > And for the record, i don't go raving any more for precisely this same
> > reason!!!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ricky Haggerty" <rickydj@ntlworld.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> >
> >
> > > well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or
played
> > > anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont
> fuckin
> > > moan either.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> > >
> > >
> > > > What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was
> > > exactly
> > > > the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's
such
> a
> > > > shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be
> done
> > > > about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck
> what
> > > > people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt
> > that
> > > > you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have
said
> > > > something.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > To: "Oldschool Mailing List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:21 PM
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> > > > > Best event ive played at for years.
> > > > > 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was
> > permenantly
> > > > > rammed! :)
> > > > > Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> > > > > Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> > > > > But now it seems hes just milking it.
> > > > > He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been
> > hammered
> > > > to
> > > > > death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> > > > > Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
> > > > enjoyment.
> > > > > As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt
> care
> > > to
> > > > be
> > > > > there or not.....
> > > > > Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall,
> to
> > > > which
> > > > > he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> > > > > His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played
em)
> > > > >
> > > > > Terrorize - Just a feeling
> > > > > Elevation - Can you feel it
> > > > > SL2 - On a ragga tip
> > > > > Prodigy - Charlie says
> > > > > Sonz of - Far out
> > > > > Edge 1
> > > > > Dont go
> > > > > Manix - Feel real good
> > > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > > Sweet harmony
> > > > >
> > > > > Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
> > > > >
> > > > > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > > > > ICQ:     101942966
> > > > > Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> > > > > Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
> > > > >
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make him get a money order.. or just get a money order in pounds, and cash
it at money mart or something. they'll cash anything.


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> Yeah, he doesn't want to send cash, it's all good. This way I get my money
> faster, he get's his tune faster. Moral of story is, anybody who does
> trading on ebay should get themselves a fucking Paypal account. It makes
> things a whole lot smoother.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 9 Feb 2003 Bingoberty@aol.com wrote:
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> > WELL TELL HIM TO GET THE MONEY CHANGED INTO USD FOR YOU AND SEND IT
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OK - like im not busy enough - get him to send me the =A3=A3 and i will payp=
al it=20
to you

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All sorted, Rich(jungletekno) is going to handle it for me. Thanks!

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> OK - like im not busy enough - get him to send me the =A3=A3 and i will p=
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> to you
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yeah all that smoking ganja all day gotta keep ya well busy - lol

snowed under here - all this doing fuck all is very time consuming :)

Steve
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OK - like im not busy enough - get him to send me the ££ and i will paypal
it
to you

Gazza

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i hear that picking your nose and farting all day long can really interrupt
with getting anything worthwhile done!!! LOL.


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> OK - like im not busy enough - get him to send me the ££ and i will paypal
it
> to you
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

Judge for yourself.....
5mb short clip of the crowd, Deluxe mixing and me standing close by :)

http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mjgp2/renegade.avi

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Attn. Ebayers with Paypal!

yeah all that smoking ganja all day gotta keep ya well busy - lol

Your having a laugh - hehe -

Ive spent the last few weeks listing 2000 crap kyile minogue records to some 
idiots who buy that shit :-)
Plus constantly arguing with steve over the new site - it goes like this
Steve:  "Gazza how do you want The audio page to look"
Gazza  "I want it to look like this"
Steve  "But thats not the right way, from a developers point of view, waffle 
waffle etc"
Gazza  "But i want it that way"
Steve  "Look -which way do you want it"
Gazza  "LIKE THIS"
Steve "But thats not the right way, from a developers point of view, waffle 
waffle etc"
Gazza"But I want it that way"

and so on etc..

and when im not doing that im listing stuff for Ebay which ive just put up 30 
beauties check the link below

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&
userid=bingo-berty&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25


And when Im not doing that Im delivering meals on wheels to the poor Elderley 
Folk 6 days a week

And when Im not doing that Im Cleaning the records, filing them etc ( 

And when Im not doing that, Im sorting out content, features, for the site

And when Im not doing that, Im posting and packing orders/ebay 
auctions/banking cheques

And when Im not doing that, and usually when i am doing that, Im burning the 
skunk

Happy?

Gazza

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Attn. Ebayers with Paypal!

you should settle for a conversation like........

GAZZA: "please can you put my site back online"
STEVE: "from a developers point of view its best to put you out of business
by taking the site offline for 2 months every couple of months or so"
GAZZA "I'm gonna come bottle you soon if you don't sort it out"
...
...

..

lol

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yeah all that smoking ganja all day gotta keep ya well busy - lol

Your having a laugh - hehe -

Ive spent the last few weeks listing 2000 crap kyile minogue records to some
idiots who buy that shit :-)
Plus constantly arguing with steve over the new site - it goes like this
Steve:  "Gazza how do you want The audio page to look"
Gazza  "I want it to look like this"
Steve  "But thats not the right way, from a developers point of view, waffle
waffle etc"
Gazza  "But i want it that way"
Steve  "Look -which way do you want it"
Gazza  "LIKE THIS"
Steve "But thats not the right way, from a developers point of view, waffle
waffle etc"
Gazza"But I want it that way"

and so on etc..

and when im not doing that im listing stuff for Ebay which ive just put up
30
beauties check the link below

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&
userid=bingo-berty&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25


And when Im not doing that Im delivering meals on wheels to the poor
Elderley
Folk 6 days a week

And when Im not doing that Im Cleaning the records, filing them etc (

And when Im not doing that, Im sorting out content, features, for the site

And when Im not doing that, Im posting and packing orders/ebay
auctions/banking cheques

And when Im not doing that, and usually when i am doing that, Im burning the
skunk

Happy?

Gazza

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Definitely one for the proper oldskool headz here - no more moaning about
anthems all day - proper underground stuff - get down and support it - if
nuff people down it will turn into a monthly event.

Check flyer and directions on B2VOS forum - flyer is here
http://www.oldskoolmadness.com/SundaySermon_Flyer_2_small.jpg

Sunday 23rd Feb
London - Kensal Green (nr Kilburn) - NW10
TOTALLY 100% FREE
So far 100% confirmed Luna C, Flashback, Jedi

Runs from 1pm till closing time

Should be one massive meet up for the London based B2VOS crew, oldskool
anthems board, Knifeforce forum, all Breakpirates people, put names to
faces, meet up, have a beer, all to the backdrop of wicked tunes, 3 rooms so
get mental and have a dance if you like.

Would be wicked to see some representation off the list as well. You got
Deluxe and me DJ'ing for starters (or is that starting to put ya off). 

Steve
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

looks kinda busy 2 me !!!!

but most of them were dancing like Kermit the Frog on a 'E'
lmao !!

mind u i cant remember if i danced like that 2 !! 8o(

<br><br><br><html><DIV><A 
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>From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 00:09:57 -0000
>
>Judge for yourself.....
>5mb short clip of the crowd, Deluxe mixing and me standing close by :)
>
>http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mjgp2/renegade.avi
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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on 10/2/03 8:47 AM, DJ Moody at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com wrote:

> Definitely one for the proper oldskool headz here - no more moaning about
> anthems all day - proper underground stuff - get down and support it - if
> nuff people down it will turn into a monthly event.
> 
> Check flyer and directions on B2VOS forum - flyer is here
> http://www.oldskoolmadness.com/SundaySermon_Flyer_2_small.jpg
> 
> Sunday 23rd Feb
> London - Kensal Green (nr Kilburn) - NW10
> TOTALLY 100% FREE
> So far 100% confirmed Luna C, Flashback, Jedi

Ohhhhh - (wipes tear from eye). Kensal Green - this is where I was brought
up from years 1-11. Thats nearly 20 years ago. I have not been back there
since. How good it would be to go back an see the place. You guys fancy
flying me over in trade for a set ;)

Jeez - i'm getting all emotional.

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yeah will fly you over as long as you can fit in a record mailer - would
give the parcel the extra insurance up to $500 - lol

Steve
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(thatsyou btw)


on 10/2/03 8:47 AM, DJ Moody at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com wrote:

> Definitely one for the proper oldskool headz here - no more moaning about
> anthems all day - proper underground stuff - get down and support it - if
> nuff people down it will turn into a monthly event.
>
> Check flyer and directions on B2VOS forum - flyer is here
> http://www.oldskoolmadness.com/SundaySermon_Flyer_2_small.jpg
>
> Sunday 23rd Feb
> London - Kensal Green (nr Kilburn) - NW10
> TOTALLY 100% FREE
> So far 100% confirmed Luna C, Flashback, Jedi

Ohhhhh - (wipes tear from eye). Kensal Green - this is where I was brought
up from years 1-11. Thats nearly 20 years ago. I have not been back there
since. How good it would be to go back an see the place. You guys fancy
flying me over in trade for a set ;)

Jeez - i'm getting all emotional.

Colin Dee.


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	(thatsyou btw)

on 10/2/03 9:27 AM, DJ Moody at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com wrote:

> yeah will fly you over as long as you can fit in a record mailer - would
> give the parcel the extra insurance up to $500 - lol
> 
> Steve

Man - for $500, I could fly over in a real seat and everything :)

Any of you guys have a digital camera? I'd love to see a few photos of the
surrounding area etc, if you would be so nice of course. ;)

Have a good one. Looks like being a top night.

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http://www.zeropaid.com/news/articles/auto/02082003b.php
<A HREF="http://www.zeropaid.com/php/news.php">News</A> > Soulseek\'s status - the full story  2,247 Stories   
    
Soulseek's status - the full story
posted by <A HREF="http://www.zeropaid.com/php/user.php?uid=90857">TC75580</A> on February 08, 2003 @ 11:01am

As many are aware, the file-sharing network of <A HREF="http://www.slsk.org/">Soulseek</A> has been down for six 
days now, leaving every user speculating. Soulseek is a popular network among 
many fans of electronic music, and is famed for the availability of rare and 
obscure music. At first, Soulseek's programmer and operator, Nir, <A HREF="http://www.napjunk.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=874">stated</A> that 
Soulseek's central server would be down for three days while he switched 
hosts. This didn't go as planned; Soulseek was still down Friday, four days 
since. The <A HREF="http://www.napjunk.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1910#1910">official word</A> | <A HREF="http://www.remmelt.com/slskboard/">2</A> now puts the blame on an artist by the name of <A HREF="http://www.sapphirecut.com/">
Sapphirecut</A> (Megan Taylor), of whom most Soulseek users have heard by now. 
Before Soulseek was taken down, Nir had publicly alerted users not to share 
any tracks by this artist, due to her request. This notice simply caused more 
people to take an interest in Sapphirecut's music, and Taylor then filed a 
complaint to Verio, Soulseek's host, for violations of the DMCA. Verio took 
action immediately, resulting in the temporary removal of Soulseek. Nir has 
found another host for the server, however excessive paperwork prevents a 
quick recovery. Soulseek users can take comfort in the fact that the network 
will indeed be thriving in (hopefully) a short time. Meanwhile, <A HREF="http://www.remmelt.com/slskboard/status.php">this page</A> can 
be used to check Soulseek's status. Top News

    
    
    


 

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Ya, I've got MP3s somewhere.

> Electronic Experienced - I.Q. / More I.Q. 
> 
> Has anyone got soundclips of these?
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) trades

Need all of 'em except Njoi-anthem and KLF-What Time Is Love, but can't
afford 'em at the moment and haven't really got anything interesting to
trade.


 > any one need any of these,
> FOR SALE/TRADE,
> n-joi-the anthem-deconstruction pt44446 1991,
> stop press-buckarood boy/inspiration/helium(dj mercy mix)-b hive recs 001 1992,
> cosmo & dibs-star eyes/up keys-moving shadow 8-1991,
> "x"cert-rising to the bass-limited edition-ck01-1992,
> sy kick-hysteria ep-hard & pure-12hpr004-1993,
> the pied piper-hooked on hope ep-absolute 2-abs 002dj-1991,
> newton-club class ep-rhythm section-newt2001-1991,
> newton-the basic ep-rhythm section-rsec008-1992,
> basic rhythm-nurosis-reinforced-rivrt1215-1992,
> one ii one-legend-reinforced-rivet 1228-1992,
> nookie-give a little love-reinforced-river 1255-1992,
> isotonik-different strokes-ffrr recs-tabx101-1991,
> sonz of a loop da loop era-futher out-subbase008r-1991,
> sublove-underground ep-earth recs-earthx7t-1992,
> sublove-always on my mind-earth recs-earthx8t-1992,
> aurora-the sunshine ep-arrenalin recs-tir001-1992,
> after dark-the after dark ep-orbital recs-12 orbit 6-1991,
> tttm pt 1(suspect white label not sure if original)-pnto42-1992,
> shades of rhythm-extasy ep-zang24t-1991,
> ffrr clasics vol 4-inc zero b-lock up,
> sounds of the future -fear of the future ep-formation12028-1993,
> sounds of the future -"                             "rmx-formation12031-1993,
> mc tantur&bay b kane-dark & delicious ep-kikman007-1993,
> vicious vinyl-the communal mind ep-obs003-1992,
> basement phil-we can rock it ep-basement recs009-1992,
> 3 way split & dj easygroove-summers groove-wtp003-1992,
> orca-dances with dolphins vol 1-white-orca 1-1992,
> the rude boy project-crack of dawn-symphony sounds 006-1993,
> force mass motion remix ep-rabbit city 004-1992,
> quaterback-dis so fine-pursuit recs002-1992,
> soundman recs 2r-hi fi power-smrs2tr-1993,
> soundman recs  6-arabian knights-smrs6t-1993,
> new class a-living dream-promo-cd2-1991/2,
> higher octave-full logic controll ep-prone 14t-1993,
> chris paul-orange on black vol 1-music is my life-oonb-1993/4,
> violator vol 1(tango)-vi001-1993,
> 10 yrs of moving shadow-10.02-(ltd 2500)-blame/2 bad mice/kaotic chemistry,
> yello magic orchestra-altern 8 mix-liarx2-1992,
> naughty trax vol 1-rugged vinyl-rugged6-1993,
> ruffkut recs -gh3-information center mixes-2X10"-1993,
> the vibes ep-sola power recs-spw001-1002/3,
> bay b kane-twilight zone rmx-kikman 14-1993/4,
> moby-go-woodtick mix-foot15-1991,
> nu-matic-hardtimes-xlt27-1992,
> a.e.k-bad bwoy breakout ep-bass sphere-12sph018-1992,
> labello blanco-strictly rockers-strictly rockin-lb12-1991/2,
> twin bass & naz aka naz-bass project-786 approved 12-1991/2,
> untold force-786 approved 27-1992,
> ????????labello blanco 10-1991/2,
> intouch recs-hoppa bones-int3-1993,
> 
> krazy kid&uncle-dickturpin rmx-cf001-1992/3,
> double b ep-white-5 track -1992,
> choci-phantastic orgasms-hardtimes 92-ccoo2-1992,
> the enigmatist-headcase ep-bizarre recs-bizz8-1992,
> limited e-orange e-cw005-1992,
> randall&andy c-sound control remix-ramm11r-1995,
> desired state-beyond bass rmx-ramm007r-1994,
> tc berry 1992-r&s recs-rs92028-1992,
> double dipped recs-the dipped ep-dd001-1992,
> the klf-america what time is love-klfusa4x-1992,
> renk records 006-mental & dangerous-xtrosy-1992,
> big giant rec-bgspd01-summer vibrations ep-1992,
> floor filler-so much joy-sound entity1207-1993,
> shut up and dance recs 15/21.22.
> thanks,
> zak.
> 


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

Probably more like 20000. +


> oh man, have you been living in a cave or summat for the last 6 years??? Or
> do like hearing the same ratpack set played by various people over and over
> and over again?? There are like 2000 wicked tunes from 92-93. Why do we have
> to listen to the same 15-20. I think these 'DJs' should appreciate that a
> little more.
> 
> And for the record, i don't go raving any more for precisely this same
> reason!!!
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ricky Haggerty" <rickydj@ntlworld.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:20 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> 
> 
> > well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
> > anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont fuckin
> > moan either.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> >
> >
> > > What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was
> > exactly
> > > the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's such a
> > > shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be done
> > > about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck what
> > > people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt
> that
> > > you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have said
> > > something.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > To: "Oldschool Mailing List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:21 PM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
> > >
> > >
> > > > Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> > > > Best event ive played at for years.
> > > > 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was
> permenantly
> > > > rammed! :)
> > > > Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> > > > Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> > > > But now it seems hes just milking it.
> > > > He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been
> hammered
> > > to
> > > > death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> > > > Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
> > > enjoyment.
> > > > As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt care
> > to
> > > be
> > > > there or not.....
> > > > Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall, to
> > > which
> > > > he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> > > > His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)
> > > >
> > > > Terrorize - Just a feeling
> > > > Elevation - Can you feel it
> > > > SL2 - On a ragga tip
> > > > Prodigy - Charlie says
> > > > Sonz of - Far out
> > > > Edge 1
> > > > Dont go
> > > > Manix - Feel real good
> > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > [Trancy crap]
> > > > Sweet harmony
> > > >
> > > > Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
> > > >
> > > > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > > > ICQ:     101942966
> > > > Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> > > > Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Attn. Ebayers with Paypal!

Yeah, he doesn't want to send cash, it's all good. This way I get my money
faster, he get's his tune faster. Moral of story is, anybody who does
trading on ebay should get themselves a fucking Paypal account. It makes
things a whole lot smoother.


Tell me about it - I've had numerous rows with Paypal over their limited 
country coverage. An extreme bitch if you do not live in the most modern of 
countries.....I live in Malaysia - the only countries in asia that do accept 
Paypal to my knowledge are Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan. Thus for poor 
sods like me I have to post sodding cash for wins on ebay or, if I am lucky, 
they will accept my credit cards. Not to mention the fact I have to round 
each purchase up to the nearest 5 or 10 quid note (no probs for US sellers 
as they have the wonderful dollar note). And I won't even start on the 
postage and time it takes tunes to get here. I tell ya, the things a humble 
record collector has to put up with just for a few quality tunes. That said 
at least the weather is warmer,corn is cheaper and I get more premiership 
coverage than when I lived in London. mmmmmm suppose I should shut the fuck 
up really.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night


Innit, go to an event with new music if you are fed up with the old;-)


> well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
>anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont fuckin
>moan either.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 PM
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
> What an absolute prick. Every oldskool night that i have been to was
>exactly
> the same, everyone played the same boring predictable shite. It's such a
> shame considering the past. I really think that something HAS to be done
> about this kinda thing. I think promoters don't really give a fuck what
> people play as long as the place gets full. I hope you told Slipmatt that
> you thought he was being a twat. If i had been there i would have said
> something.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: "Oldschool Mailing List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 5:21 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
> > Well, first of all, what a wicked night!
> > Best event ive played at for years.
> > 500 people thru the door in a 380 capacity venue, so it was permenantly
> > rammed! :)
> > Slipmatt was, well, what can only be described as predictable.
> > Once upon a time he was a god, you really couldnt fault him IMO
> > But now it seems hes just milking it.
> > He turns up, plays a handful of oldskool anthems that have been hammered
> to
> > death, then drops in afew charty/trancy tunes and fucks off!
> > Through out his set he didnt really seem to show any interest or
> enjoyment.
> > As usual, his mixing was spot on, but it seemed he really couldnt care
>to
> be
> > there or not.....
> > Deluxe asked him if he was going to write anymore breakbeat atall, to
> which
> > he flatly said no, he was strictly hard house now.
> > His set was something like this (roughly in the order he played em)
> >
> > Terrorize - Just a feeling
> > Elevation - Can you feel it
> > SL2 - On a ragga tip
> > Prodigy - Charlie says
> > Sonz of - Far out
> > Edge 1
> > Dont go
> > Manix - Feel real good
> > [Trancy crap]
> > [Trancy crap]
> > [Trancy crap]
> > Sweet harmony
> >
> > Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
> >
> > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > ICQ:     101942966
> > Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> > Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

You forgot to include the Elation plug Mark ;)

None of us are fed up with the old, we're just fed up with the same old 
tunes. If I went to Slammin Vinyl and every DJ played the same Raverbaby 
stuff throughout, I'd be totally fed up with that as well. Wait a minute... 
;)

>Innit, go to an event with new music if you are fed up with the old;-)
>
>
> > well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
> >anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont 
>fuckin
> >moan either.



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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

Terrorize - Just a feeling
Elevation - Can you feel it
SL2 - On a ragga tip
Prodigy - Charlie says
Sonz of - Far out
Edge 1
Dont go
Manix - Feel real good
[Trancy crap]
[Trancy crap]
[Trancy crap]
Sweet harmony

Not exactly ground breaking was it?!

How much was he paid for that set btw???

Quite enjoyed this rant - I agree with Richard when he states "what an 
absolute prick" a fair point methinks both for Slipmatts track selection and 
the fact he's into "hard house" or hard wank as I call it. This, constant 
caning of same 20 odd tunes at oldskool do's, has been a major angst for 
several years now on this list. Having never booked a DJ I'm unclear here 
but would it be possible to dictate which songs he or she cannot play (edge 
1 & don't go / please do) being prime examples? Is it possible that the 
reason all these jocks play the same tunes is their oldskool collection is 
now somewhat limited and they dare'ent risk playing anything outside of the 
mainstream because:

a/. Scared to fuck their last/only copy up and cost/difficulty of 
replacement. Thus stick with the big anthems.??
b/. Actually only have a limited oldskool selection (hard to believe)
c/. Complete apathy and lack of effort (suspected)
d/. Thats what the crowd wants to hear...

Personally I would much rather here Destiny or Deluxe's set than from a 
major oldskool DJ anyway. Its just a shame punters are drawn by the big name 
DJ on the presumption that it will be good. Often it will not.

I'm in a rantish mood today - apologies

cheers

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

>> well it is old skool........theses sort of tunes dont get made or played
>> anywhere these days. So if ur fed up hearin it all dont go and dont fuckin
>> moan either.

I think Dest was making the point that the OS he did play was not really
thought about. He went there, played a handful of the most commercial tunes
he could find and then went home. I dont recall Destiny saying he was fed up
with listening to OS. He also mentioned that Slipmatt didnt seem to be
interested or care to be there so quotes like ones above are a bit on the
harsh side. Easy fella.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) FREE OLDSKOOL EVENT for the Oldskool headz (thats you btw)

The only problem I can see with this is it being the day after Raindance. 
Could make or break it. The fact it starts at 1pm means most people will be 
tucked up in bed, and when they wake up the last thing they'll want to do is 
mission it up to north-west London =/

On the other hand, Raindance might get more people well up for some old 
skool the next day. I take it there'll be some serious flyering after RD?

So long as I don't have to do my show on eruption I'll definitely come 
along, it's a natural at RD for me. A natural at The Drome? *shudders* ;)

>Definitely one for the proper oldskool headz here - no more moaning >about 
>anthems all day - proper underground stuff - get down and >support it - if 
>nuff people down it will turn into a monthly event.
>
>Check flyer and directions on B2VOS forum - flyer is here
>http://www.oldskoolmadness.com/SundaySermon_Flyer_2_small.jpg
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>Sunday 23rd Feb
>London - Kensal Green (nr Kilburn) - NW10
>TOTALLY 100% FREE
>So far 100% confirmed Luna C, Flashback, Jedi
>
>Runs from 1pm till closing time
>
>Should be one massive meet up for the London based B2VOS crew, oldskool
>anthems board, Knifeforce forum, all Breakpirates people, put names to
>faces, meet up, have a beer, all to the backdrop of wicked tunes, 3 >rooms 
>so get mental and have a dance if you like.
>
>Would be wicked to see some representation off the list as well. You got
>Deluxe and me DJ'ing for starters (or is that starting to put ya off).
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

When I spoke to Outrage of Demolition Cru about this he was saying he'd love 
to play proper underground stuff, but when he's done it before people have 
come up to him (and by the sounds of it, not just the punters) and said 
"what are you playing this for, I was enjoying the anthems". These people 
have outnumbered those who go up to him and say "where's the underground 
stuff?". At the same time he was saying he tries to get away with what he 
can, but when you play at the likes of Camden Palace that's what's expected.

Another thing I've noticed is that when different tunes do get played it 
tends to be the more jungley "London" tunes as I call them, Brain 
Progression, Big City, Camden Tunes etc etc. But from what I can also see, 
the majority of ravers in the old skool rooms at United Dance, Raindance etc 
are into their happy hardcore rather than their dnb. So to them the jungley 
stuff isn't going to go down well, yet the stompier stuff would be a lot 
more accessible to them.

I think we also have to accept that the number of "heads" who are well into 
their old skool is far far smaller than we'd like to think.

>Quite enjoyed this rant - I agree with Richard when he states "what an 
>absolute prick" a fair point methinks both for Slipmatts track selection 
>and the fact he's into "hard house" or hard wank as I call it. This, 
>constant caning of same 20 odd tunes at oldskool do's, has been a major 
>angst for several years now on this list. Having never booked a DJ I'm 
>unclear here but would it be possible to dictate which songs he or she 
>cannot play (edge 1 & don't go / please do) being prime examples? Is it 
>possible that the reason all these jocks play the same tunes is their 
>oldskool collection is now somewhat limited and they dare'ent risk playing 
>anything outside of the mainstream because:
>
>a/. Scared to fuck their last/only copy up and cost/difficulty of 
>replacement. Thus stick with the big anthems.??
>b/. Actually only have a limited oldskool selection (hard to believe)
>c/. Complete apathy and lack of effort (suspected)
>d/. Thats what the crowd wants to hear...
>
>Personally I would much rather here Destiny or Deluxe's set than from a 
>major oldskool DJ anyway. Its just a shame punters are drawn by the big 
>name DJ on the presumption that it will be good. Often it will not.
>
>I'm in a rantish mood today - apologies
>
>cheers
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> When I spoke to Outrage of Demolition Cru about this he was saying he'd
love
> to play proper underground stuff,

So play it then!
Our set that night was a case in point.
Now this is the real point here......
A DJ had already played most of the anthems that Slipmatt dropped, and when
he did the crowd did go mad for em.
BUT, when Matt dropped them, the response wasnt half as good, IMO simply
because "oh, we've already heard this tonight"

Me and Deluxe came on and played it hard.
No one came and asked for anthems to be put back on.
No one left the dance floor.
No one said it was too hard.

This is a rough idea of what we played.....

House Crew - We are hardcore
Yolk - Bish bosh
Energizer 1
Acen - Close your eyes (Opticonfusion)
House Crew - Euporia (Ninos dream)
Alphawave
Justice & Mercy - Forgotten souls
Nick OD - Jazzy hardcore
Tango project
Menace makes 3 - Pure hysteria
XLR8 - Whats my code
Nebula II - Atheama
2xtreme
Pyrogenic - Feel it
Boomtown Productions - All rude boy
Cloud 9 - Gonna be alright
Messiah - There Is No Law - (Rap edit)
New Atlantic - Yes to satan

And tons of other stuff, a fair bit more refreshing than Slipmatt's set by a
long shot! ;o)
Flatliners was the very last tune of the night. If you know this tune (you
should!) you will know its quite hard to say the least. It went down a
storm.... I rest my point.

As with what Aztek said, I hardly bother to go to events anymore cause im
fed up of hearing the same 10 tunes over and over.

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> How much was he paid for that set btw???


Beleive it or not, Slipmatt wants £650 for an oldskool set, in which he
plays some shite trancey housey charty tunes for you too LOL
Fortuantly he did it for less that night (450) but to me, he really wasnt
worth half that.
Even the promotor said our set went down much better than Matts did!
Unfortunatly, its the big names that draw the crowds.....
Hopefully one day the average oldskool event raver will realise that it also
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Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's not
as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
some records. 

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And fair play for doing it, it's why I enjoy Elation more than any other 
hardcore night, cos of the variety.

Ham better had be playing breakbeat tho - if his set is anything like the 
Next Generation mix I will be sitting in the corner crying my eyes out =)

>We we only have one Raverbaby DJ at the next Elation and have Ham with >all 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

"Otherwise shut the fuck up"

Can we stop the hostility PLEASE. You had a fair point, but no-one's going 
to pick up on that, they're just gonna be on the defensive because you've 
sounded so aggressive.

It's like a school playground sometimes...

>I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's not
>as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
>some records.
>
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> At the end of the day it boils down to the same old rules;
> if you really want to hear the music you want you'll have to
> promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your own
> money

What a load of shit!
As my previous replies have said, we played a good set of varied tunes and
they went down well.
If anything, better than the selection Matt played.
The subject in question here was why big name djs play THE SAME tunes over
and over.
Is it really too much to ask to be able to go to an event and hear something
fresh for  a change?
There cant be a single person that is happy to pay to get into events only
to hear the same selection of tunes that they heard at the last one they
went to.
If so, then they need to remove the blinkers and see past their self
inflicted limitations.

As for gambling 2k of our money, LOL classic.Me and Deluxe can say weve been
there and done it, we ran monthly events for afew years back in 94/95 that
cost a mere 25 quid a time.
Its all about walking before you can run....

> Otherwise shut the fuck up.

Unfortunalty you cant influence us that easily LOL

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As I said tho mate, and as he said himself, when he has played different 
stuff there have been more people coming up to him and complaining about 
there being no anthems when compared with the amount of people coming up to 
him when he's playing anthems and complaining there's no underground stuff. 
If you were in that position what would you think? You could be bloodyminded 
and say "fuck em", but if that runs the risk of the promoter seeing you've 
cleared the floor a bit and you lose your bookings in the future, what do 
you do? Remember some of these dj's make a living out of it, I know 
Demolition Cru certainly do. Maybe it's a London thing and people here are 
too narrow-minded, while out in the stix ;) people are just happy to be out 
raving once every so often.

> > When I spoke to Outrage of Demolition Cru about this he was saying >he'd 
>love to play proper underground stuff,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

If you can do it for less then £2k, awesome! I'm trying to
get a few small things going myself. I'm not really
defending the DJs, I'm the same as 95% of oldskool heads ie
I just don't go to oldskool nights where they anthem-bash,
it bores me shitless. 

The harsh reality is that these events are rammed! So the
anthem-bashers have no motivation to change. So all the
headz can moan as much as they like, as long as
anthem-bashing old skool nights make money, we're just
pissing in the wind. Sad but true.


 --- DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >
At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> rules;
> > if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> have to
> > promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> own
> > money
> 
> What a load of shit!
> As my previous replies have said, we played a good set of
> varied tunes and
> they went down well.
> If anything, better than the selection Matt played.
> The subject in question here was why big name djs play THE
> SAME tunes over
> and over.
> Is it really too much to ask to be able to go to an event
> and hear something
> fresh for  a change?
> There cant be a single person that is happy to pay to get
> into events only
> to hear the same selection of tunes that they heard at the
> last one they
> went to.
> If so, then they need to remove the blinkers and see past
> their self
> inflicted limitations.
> 
> As for gambling 2k of our money, LOL classic.Me and Deluxe
> can say weve been
> there and done it, we ran monthly events for afew years
> back in 94/95 that
> cost a mere 25 quid a time.
> Its all about walking before you can run....
> 
> > Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> 
> Unfortunalty you cant influence us that easily LOL
> 
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) FREE OLDSKOOL EVENT for the Oldskool headz (thats you btw)

>>The only problem I can see with this is it being the day after Raindance.
>>Could make or break it.

Yeah I couldn't decide whether people will make a mad weekend of it or be
all tired out - we only need 100 peeps though to secure it for future. One
plus is lots of people from outside London should be making it cause they
are travelling to London for Raindnace.

>>I take it there'll be some serious flyering after RD?

Yep there will be some flyering - I doubt very much it will serious though -
lol.

>>So long as I don't have to do my show on eruption I'll definitely come
along.

Nice one hope to see ya down there. Feel free to give it a plug on the radio
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I seem a few posts on this last couple of days and decided to wade in cause
I got some strong views on this.

I LOVE OLDSKOOL - I go to very few oldskool events cause the music that gets
played most of the time is boring and totally unrepresentative of real
oldskool, it doesn't capture the vibe, it doesn't reflect the diversity of
the scene - we get force fed the same one dimensional piano softcore anthems
over and over again. And I'm not the only person that feels like that - the
main oldskool forums are full of posts from disgruntled oldskool headz.

Its true DJ's have to play to the crowds - a lot of the crowds want anthems.
Most oldskool is bolted on as an extra room to a D&B or hardcore night and
most of the crowd are partial oldskool fans having got into the music
through the current scenes - its sad but many of them are under the
impression that a Ministry of Sound Oldskool CD it what its all about. I'm
not dissing anyone here just pointing out that most of the people in an
oldskool room are not die-hard oldskool fans and know few tunes outside of
usual anthems.

So the DJ's have to play anthems to em to keep them happy.

Now where I put a new slant to things is this. Far too many DJ's are afraid
of experimenting a little and just stick to those same old anthems. There is
time in an hour set to drop 3/4 lesser known tunes without clearing the
dancefloor. People don't stop dancing after just one tune they don't know.
If this is done consistently by most DJ's then in a few months the list of
"playable anthem tunes" will have expanded to the benefit of everyone
involved. The general crowds will become a bit more educated, the core fans
won't be so disallusioned.

At the moment the balance isn't right - the promoters/DJ's are catering
totally to the occassional punters and paying absolutely no attention to the
needs of the die-hard core fans. Its a really narrow minded and short
sighted approach, yes the dancefloors are moving right now but in a couple
of years time there will be no scene at all without the die-hard fans. These
are the people that will turn up whatever, will dance their nads off, create
the vibe and atmopshere. There is no scene without those core people who
love what they are doing, casual punters move onto other things very quickly
and without the core nutters obviously enjoying themselves new casual
punters won't take a look and think "I'll have a bit of that" and join in.

In response to someone's post about get off your arse and do your own event
I think you'll find that the real fans are so pissed off with the major
promoters that this is exactly what is happening, lots of smaller events
popping up to cater for the headz, hardcore revival to name one. Personally
doing my own Sunday session for exactly that reason - get some safe people
who know the score down to the venue, drop some wicked tunes the way it
should be - have a decent oldskool event to go to. Rather be 100, 150 people
but spot on than a few thousand but wank.


PS I think you'll find there are 2 types of DJ's - ones that still love the
music and ones that are cashing in on their past reputation to earn money.
None of the above will happen and the future of the scene will not be
assured without losing the DJ's in the later category - cause they will flog
the same old anthems to death and kill the scene off without giving a shit,
its too much effort for them and not worth the risk to try anything new or
change the records in their box from one event to the next.

PPS as to people coming up to DJ's and requesting tunes - you got to think
are these the people that represent the whole crowd/scene. Would anyone that
is really into the scene actually go and make a request from the DJ? NO NO
NO - only people who are used to school discos and barmitzva's and wedding
think they can go up to the DJ and request a bloody tune - ADVICE IGNORE
THESE CLUELESS TWATS.


Steve
aka DJ Moody
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www.oldskoolmadness.com
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Subject: (oldschool) Re: Nail in the Fence

Cahin=20mails=20make=20me=20drive=20nails=20into=20fences


>=20>NAIL=20IN=20THE=20FENCE=20A=20Good=20Story=20for=20Great=20Friends.....
>
>Make=20sure=20you=20read=20all=20the=20way=20down=20to=20the=20last=20sentence!
>
>There=20once=20was=20a=20little=20girl=20who=20had=20a=20bad=20temper.=20Her=20mother=20gave=20her=20a=20
>bag=20of=20nails=20and=20told=20her=20that=20every=20time=20she=20lost=20her=20temper,=20she=20must=20
>hammer=20a=20nail=20into=20the=20back=20of=20the=20fence.
>
>The=20first=20day=20the=20girl=20had=20driven=2037=20nails=20into=20the=20fence.=20Over=20the=20next=20
>few=20weeks,=20as=20she=20learned=20to=20control=20her=20anger,=20the=20number=20of=20nails=20
>hammered=20daily=20gradually=20dwindled=20down.=20She=20discovered=20it=20was=20easier=20to=20
>hold=20her=20temper=20than=20to=20drive=20those=20nails=20into=20the=20fence.
>
>Finally=20the=20day=20came=20when=20the=20girl=20didn't=20lose=20her=20temper=20at=20all.=20She=20told=20
>her=20mother=20about=20it=20and=20the=20mother=20suggested=20that=20the=20girl=20now=20pull=20out=20one=20
>nail=20for=20each=20day=20that=20she=20was=20able=20to=20hold=20her=20temper.=20The=20day=20passed=20and=20
>the=20young=20girl=20was=20finally=20able=20to=20tell=20her=20mother=20that=20all=20the=20nails=20!=20
>were=20gone.=20The=20mother=20took=20her=20daughter=20by=20the=20hand=20and=20led=20her=20to=20the=20
>fence.
>
>She=20said,=20"You=20have=20done=20well,=20my=20daughter,=20but=20look=20at=20the=20holes=20in=20the=20
>fence.=20The=20fence=20will=20never=20be=20the=20same.=20When=20you=20say=20things=20in=20anger,=20they=20
>leave=20a=20scar=20just=20like=20this=20one."=20You=20can=20put=20a=20knife=20in=20a=20person=20and=20draw=20
>it=20out.=20It=20won't=20matter=20how=20many=20times=20you=20say=20"I'm=20sorry",=20the=20wound=20is=20
>still=20there.=20A=20verbal=20wound=20is=20as=20bad=20as=20a=20physical=20one.
>
>Friends=20are=20very=20rare=20jewels,=20indeed.=20They=20make=20you=20smile=20and=20encourage=20you=20
>to=20succeed.=20They=20lend=20an=20ear,=20they=20share=20words=20of=20praise=20and=20they=20always=20
>want=20to=20open=20their=20hearts=20to=20us=20It's=20National=20Friendship=20week.
>
>Show=20your=20friends=20how=20much=20you=20care.=20Send=20this=20to=20everyone=20you=20consider=20a=20
>FRIEND,=20even=20if=20it=20means=20sending=20it=20back=20to=20the=20person=20who=20sent=20it=20to=20you.
>
>If=20it=20comes=20back=20to=20you,=20then=20you'll=20know=20you=20have=20a=20circle=20of=20friends.
>
>Happy=20Friendship=20week!=20You=20are=20my=20friend=20and=20I=20am=20honored.=20Now=20send=20this=20to=20
>every=20friend=20you=20have!!=20And=20to=20your=20family.
>
>Please=20forgive=20me=20if=20I=20have=20ever=20left=20a=20hole=20in=20your=20fence.
>Dean=20Cuthbert.
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: Nail in the Fence

Actually that analogy wasn't too bad, but chain mails make me drive nails
into small fluffy animals.

Dave the monday afternoon psychopath


>>Cahin mails make me drive nails into fences

> >NAIL IN THE FENCE A Good Story for Great Friends.....


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems (continuning the debate)

I basically gave up on oldskool events (esp. those at Camden
Palace) around 2000, and just go to d'n'b. The best oldskool
I hear is on the Kool FM sunday morning shows, and from the
oldskool list/b2vos DJs. 



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems (continuning the debate)

> The best oldskool I hear is on the Kool FM sunday morning shows
Yeah Super Sunday always rocked!
Reception is bloody awful where I am these days though... drives me nuts
trying to listen to it and constatly waving the aerial round.

Actually, some of you here might be able to help with something I've been
trying to find out with no joy - does a proper roof-top FM aerial make for
better or worse reception of pirate stations?  I was thinking of getting one
but at the moment I seem to get better reception with a crappy little single
wire aerial than with a bigger loop one -- with the 'better' aerial the
pirates seem to get drowned out by the mainstream BBC/Commercial stations.

Does anyone have advice for how to get best pirate reception?  Is a
directional aerial better than a loop one?  If so, how do you know which
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) FREE OLDSKOOL EVENT for the Oldskool headz (thats you btw)

Ahh well, you're only supposed to give plugs if you're playing at the event, 
otherwise the management aren't too pleased, hint hint ;) I'll see what I 
can do tho!

>Nice one hope to see ya down there. Feel free to give it a plug on the 
> >radio :)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Attn. Ebayers with Paypal!

ello steve hows it goin?

I was wondering how you were gonna pay us that =A3200 cos my bank balance is=
 at=20
critical as usual till me wages and ebay auctions come in.  =20

whats that place like where your playing?  I will come up soon, as soon as I=
=20
get my teeth sorted - Ive had enough of having no teeth and aching teeth, so=
=20
Im having no time out of selling until ive got enough cash to sort em out. =20=
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I took a look at a camcorder pic i took of myself and one from about 2 years=
=20
ago and boy -what difference - I have gone all skanky -hehe

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From oldschool-return-82668-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Feb 10 18:31:26 2003
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Subject: (oldschool) Debate cont. -Pirate Radio-

I thought about setting up a pirate station once. I was talking to a science 
boff mate about it, apparently you can you use different kind of signals to 
send different ummm... signals.
The radio waves that broadcast in all directions are easily detectible but 
cheap tp set up, so you could use them for a bit and then get busted and 
lose all your gear, decks, tunes, equiment plus probly get all the guys who 
come to play there busted and all there shit nicked to. after all cops are 
wankers.
Now the interesting thing here said was something about a different kind of 
signal. I think it might have been microwaves, (I know you are probly 
thinking I was stoned and talking to my microwave curry but bear with me) 
the microwave (or whatever) is a directional signal, so you can fire off 
your station signal in a direction, which the cops cant pick up at all, then 
the microwave is picked up in location b and broadcast on a radiowave, this 
means if the site b got busted, all they would find is a transmitter and a 
receiver, but you would have loads of time from the tip off to move on, this 
stops any risk of busted DJs and lost tunes/decks/equipment etc.
you could even blast off a few microwaves to different locataions and cover 
a big fuck off area for a few hours every saturday night. I think it would 
be great, and unless my curry was talking shit, theoreticalyly possible, 
trouble is Im too lazy






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>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:20:50 -0000
>
> > The best oldskool I hear is on the Kool FM sunday morning shows
>Yeah Super Sunday always rocked!
>Reception is bloody awful where I am these days though... drives me nuts
>trying to listen to it and constatly waving the aerial round.
>
>Actually, some of you here might be able to help with something I've been
>trying to find out with no joy - does a proper roof-top FM aerial make for
>better or worse reception of pirate stations?  I was thinking of getting 
>one
>but at the moment I seem to get better reception with a crappy little 
>single
>wire aerial than with a bigger loop one -- with the 'better' aerial the
>pirates seem to get drowned out by the mainstream BBC/Commercial stations.
>
>Does anyone have advice for how to get best pirate reception?  Is a
>directional aerial better than a loop one?  If so, how do you know which
>direction to point it?
>
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Subject: (oldschool)BIG LIST OF CHEAP CHOONS/30 RARE

1) firstly, a bunch of Rare tunes - nicholas parsons, a few rhythm section=20
items, drop xtc, terminator , LSD share 002 / djb ez m /Rude Boyorigination=20
/jem 77 / couple of skanna tunes /Sour Mash EP /Russ 005txy /Resistor=20
/Ecology EP /Hi-Tec muuusic/ Enforcers 9&10 (double10") etc etc

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userid=3Dbingo-berty&include=3D0&since=3D-1&sort=3D3&rows=3D25

2) Im having a clear out of doubles and stuff which is too unknown or=20
obscure.  The plus side that there are some pretty good tunes in here even=20
though obscure.  =20
This long list of tunes is open to an offers -feel free to say whichever=20
price - I wont be offended :-) Individual  Prices are =A31 to =A35 unless st=
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otherwise PLEASE NOTE offers for whole lot must be within next day or two co=
s=20
i dont want to delay anyone who may want individual titles

Phantasy & Gemini -Everybodys Under the Influence HAN 003 =A35=20
DMS - Gunshot Remixes/Mindwreck remix - PNT 046R=A35=20
Soapbar6 -T Power and the sandman Oediplus Complex / Born 2 Dark - =A36=20
Ionosphere -White Label - ( Hypertension )=20
DJ Phantasy -The Jungle EP - HAN 002 =A39=20
DJ Phantasy - The Jungle Remixes - =A39=20
Ephemerol -Tic Tac Toe - Remixes =A315=20
Edge 1 - Orig Press -=A39=20
Dragon Fly -Dis Jah Little Sound EP -=A37=20
Rabbit City Chase EP REPRESS =A35=20
Altern 8 -Vertigo EP - network=A310=20
Phantasy -Never try the hippodrome/switch to - liquid wax 33 =A310=20
the one after D -Heavyweight =A38=20
House Crew -We are Hardcore - =A310 -Production house=20
2 Da Core -Rub a Dub Soldier - PM =A38=20
ULR -Drowzee Remixes =A39=20
Delirium -days of our lives - reinforced =A38=20
Question mark -(sound of eden Hardcore style) - =A35=20
DHR 002 -Dark Horse-The Interelate EP -=A312=20
Nexus 21 -Progressive Logic EP =A35=20
WHYS 012 -Criminal Minds - The Criminal / Ruffneck dancer =A39=20
Isontonic diff Strokes =A36=20
Sound of Eden Mixes -Zang44T -=A37=20
White Label -Mystery 159 Remix - Just went on ebay for =A337!! ??hmmm.....=20
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Tone Def -DJ Harry /Point Blank - Cape Fear -Dark tune -(vocal -"Let me out=20
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Rhythmatic -Energy on Vinyl -Eight Tracks- =A36=20
Vicious Pumpin -Addiction -Mind Penetration EP - =A35=20
Oxford Ardkore - =A35=20
Formation -Brainstorm Crew -Plastic EP =A35=20
Quayside -Formula 7 -Mad Bones EP -Dark Star =A36=20
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Tribal Bass Kicks Likea mule -number one -=A33=20
Melodic EP Vol 2 -=A34=20
Tribal Bass -The Bouncer =A37=20
DGP 001 - =A34=20
UCR -MANIC -Feel the Rush =A35=20
Praga Khan - Inject with a poison =A35=20
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Subject: (oldschool) trouble is Im too lazy

My physics dweeb mate told me that apparently you can draw
energy from radiowaves. If you do draw the energy it can be
detected though, and it's illegal so the police will soon be
round. Apparently some guy was busted who had this gret big
metal pole just lying down in his back garden absorbing the
radio-wave energy.

 --- DJ Krane <djkrane@hotmail.com> wrote: > I thought about
setting up a pirate station once. I was
> talking to a science 
> boff mate about it, apparently you can you use different
> kind of signals to 
> send different ummm... signals.
> The radio waves that broadcast in all directions are
> easily detectible but 
> cheap tp set up, so you could use them for a bit and then
> get busted and 
> lose all your gear, decks, tunes, equiment plus probly get
> all the guys who 
> come to play there busted and all there shit nicked to.
> after all cops are 
> wankers.
> Now the interesting thing here said was something about a
> different kind of 
> signal. I think it might have been microwaves, (I know you
> are probly 
> thinking I was stoned and talking to my microwave curry
> but bear with me) 
> the microwave (or whatever) is a directional signal, so
> you can fire off 
> your station signal in a direction, which the cops cant
> pick up at all, then 
> the microwave is picked up in location b and broadcast on
> a radiowave, this 
> means if the site b got busted, all they would find is a
> transmitter and a 
> receiver, but you would have loads of time from the tip
> off to move on, this 
> stops any risk of busted DJs and lost
> tunes/decks/equipment etc.
> you could even blast off a few microwaves to different
> locataions and cover 
> a big fuck off area for a few hours every saturday night.
> I think it would 
> be great, and unless my curry was talking shit,
> theoreticalyly possible, 
> trouble is Im too lazy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems
> (continuning the debate)
> >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:20:50 -0000
> >
> > > The best oldskool I hear is on the Kool FM sunday
> morning shows
> >Yeah Super Sunday always rocked!
> >Reception is bloody awful where I am these days though...
> drives me nuts
> >trying to listen to it and constatly waving the aerial
> round.
> >
> >Actually, some of you here might be able to help with
> something I've been
> >trying to find out with no joy - does a proper roof-top
> FM aerial make for
> >better or worse reception of pirate stations?  I was
> thinking of getting 
> >one
> >but at the moment I seem to get better reception with a
> crappy little 
> >single
> >wire aerial than with a bigger loop one -- with the
> 'better' aerial the
> >pirates seem to get drowned out by the mainstream
> BBC/Commercial stations.
> >
> >Does anyone have advice for how to get best pirate
> reception?  Is a
> >directional aerial better than a loop one?  If so, how do
> you know which
> >direction to point it?
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

sorry if this is somewhat late, it seems that there has been much debate on
this already, as there are 50 emails sitting in my inbox!!

I think most old dj's such as slipmatt etc don't have many of their old
tunes anymore. I think they have cash in on them by now. I remember speaking
to James @ Suburban Sounds and he's sold nearly all of randall's, tango's
and ratty's collections. Also i seem to reemeber that slpimatt had sold just
about all his old stuff when he moved over to playing the bilge that goes by
the name of hard house.



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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night


> Terrorize - Just a feeling
> Elevation - Can you feel it
> SL2 - On a ragga tip
> Prodigy - Charlie says
> Sonz of - Far out
> Edge 1
> Dont go
> Manix - Feel real good
> [Trancy crap]
> [Trancy crap]
> [Trancy crap]
> Sweet harmony
>
> Not exactly ground breaking was it?!
>
> How much was he paid for that set btw???
>
> Quite enjoyed this rant - I agree with Richard when he states "what an
> absolute prick" a fair point methinks both for Slipmatts track selection
and
> the fact he's into "hard house" or hard wank as I call it. This, constant
> caning of same 20 odd tunes at oldskool do's, has been a major angst for
> several years now on this list. Having never booked a DJ I'm unclear here
> but would it be possible to dictate which songs he or she cannot play
(edge
> 1 & don't go / please do) being prime examples? Is it possible that the
> reason all these jocks play the same tunes is their oldskool collection is
> now somewhat limited and they dare'ent risk playing anything outside of
the
> mainstream because:
>
> a/. Scared to fuck their last/only copy up and cost/difficulty of
> replacement. Thus stick with the big anthems.??
> b/. Actually only have a limited oldskool selection (hard to believe)
> c/. Complete apathy and lack of effort (suspected)
> d/. Thats what the crowd wants to hear...
>
> Personally I would much rather here Destiny or Deluxe's set than from a
> major oldskool DJ anyway. Its just a shame punters are drawn by the big
name
> DJ on the presumption that it will be good. Often it will not.
>
> I'm in a rantish mood today - apologies
>
> cheers
>
> Andrew
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lol -this was supposed to be personall


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems (continuning the debate)

havnt read the replies to this cos i aint got time! but i rekon:

1. start ur set with a fuckin stonker which is also a classic, set im basin 
this structure on stated with the horn track :D
2. perhaps another bigish tune to get people really going,
3. a tune 1/2 or more of the floor wont know but will love cos its similar 
to the last one in vibe etc
3. a nice mix of averagly known tunes like the impacts, basements, sub 
bases, reinforced, shaddows,
4. some really obscure stuff like alpha wave ep or classified,
5. to pick up n get everyone on it 3/4 the way a huge tune that everyone 
loves- i.e. 31 seconds
6. more dark/obscure for those that can stick it on the dance floor for the 
whole set!

taa daa! wicked set, most people happy!





>From: "DJ Moody" <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: "Oldskool List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems (continuning the debate)
>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 14:54:04 -0000
>
>I seem a few posts on this last couple of days and decided to wade in cause
>I got some strong views on this.
>
>I LOVE OLDSKOOL - I go to very few oldskool events cause the music that 
>gets
>played most of the time is boring and totally unrepresentative of real
>oldskool, it doesn't capture the vibe, it doesn't reflect the diversity of
>the scene - we get force fed the same one dimensional piano softcore 
>anthems
>over and over again. And I'm not the only person that feels like that - the
>main oldskool forums are full of posts from disgruntled oldskool headz.
>
>Its true DJ's have to play to the crowds - a lot of the crowds want 
>anthems.
>Most oldskool is bolted on as an extra room to a D&B or hardcore night and
>most of the crowd are partial oldskool fans having got into the music
>through the current scenes - its sad but many of them are under the
>impression that a Ministry of Sound Oldskool CD it what its all about. I'm
>not dissing anyone here just pointing out that most of the people in an
>oldskool room are not die-hard oldskool fans and know few tunes outside of
>usual anthems.
>
>So the DJ's have to play anthems to em to keep them happy.
>
>Now where I put a new slant to things is this. Far too many DJ's are afraid
>of experimenting a little and just stick to those same old anthems. There 
>is
>time in an hour set to drop 3/4 lesser known tunes without clearing the
>dancefloor. People don't stop dancing after just one tune they don't know.
>If this is done consistently by most DJ's then in a few months the list of
>"playable anthem tunes" will have expanded to the benefit of everyone
>involved. The general crowds will become a bit more educated, the core fans
>won't be so disallusioned.
>
>At the moment the balance isn't right - the promoters/DJ's are catering
>totally to the occassional punters and paying absolutely no attention to 
>the
>needs of the die-hard core fans. Its a really narrow minded and short
>sighted approach, yes the dancefloors are moving right now but in a couple
>of years time there will be no scene at all without the die-hard fans. 
>These
>are the people that will turn up whatever, will dance their nads off, 
>create
>the vibe and atmopshere. There is no scene without those core people who
>love what they are doing, casual punters move onto other things very 
>quickly
>and without the core nutters obviously enjoying themselves new casual
>punters won't take a look and think "I'll have a bit of that" and join in.
>
>In response to someone's post about get off your arse and do your own event
>I think you'll find that the real fans are so pissed off with the major
>promoters that this is exactly what is happening, lots of smaller events
>popping up to cater for the headz, hardcore revival to name one. Personally
>doing my own Sunday session for exactly that reason - get some safe people
>who know the score down to the venue, drop some wicked tunes the way it
>should be - have a decent oldskool event to go to. Rather be 100, 150 
>people
>but spot on than a few thousand but wank.
>
>
>PS I think you'll find there are 2 types of DJ's - ones that still love the
>music and ones that are cashing in on their past reputation to earn money.
>None of the above will happen and the future of the scene will not be
>assured without losing the DJ's in the later category - cause they will 
>flog
>the same old anthems to death and kill the scene off without giving a shit,
>its too much effort for them and not worth the risk to try anything new or
>change the records in their box from one event to the next.
>
>PPS as to people coming up to DJ's and requesting tunes - you got to think
>are these the people that represent the whole crowd/scene. Would anyone 
>that
>is really into the scene actually go and make a request from the DJ? NO NO
>NO - only people who are used to school discos and barmitzva's and wedding
>think they can go up to the DJ and request a bloody tune - ADVICE IGNORE
>THESE CLUELESS TWATS.
>
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Debate cont. -Pirate Radio-

yes it is possible, we used to do that back in the day,
but your on the internet, why go FM?
when u can go worldwide?

There is a few oldskool/dnb wotever stations about,
i'm even listening to wun now, which i just found

http://www.piraterevival.co.uk/
and
http://www.breakpirates.com [in a min when oldskool madness starts]

and i even play on some,
surely u can get a set on wun of them ;o)
or r u that lazy? ;o) u can even broadcast from ya house,
u dont even have to go anywhere ;o)



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From: "DJ Krane" <djkrane@hotmail.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 6:31 PM
Subject: (oldschool) Debate cont. -Pirate Radio-


> I thought about setting up a pirate station once. I was talking to a
science
> boff mate about it, apparently you can you use different kind of signals
to
> send different ummm... signals.
> The radio waves that broadcast in all directions are easily detectible but
> cheap tp set up, so you could use them for a bit and then get busted and
> lose all your gear, decks, tunes, equiment plus probly get all the guys
who
> come to play there busted and all there shit nicked to. after all cops are
> wankers.
> Now the interesting thing here said was something about a different kind
of
> signal. I think it might have been microwaves, (I know you are probly
> thinking I was stoned and talking to my microwave curry but bear with me)
> the microwave (or whatever) is a directional signal, so you can fire off
> your station signal in a direction, which the cops cant pick up at all,
then
> the microwave is picked up in location b and broadcast on a radiowave,
this
> means if the site b got busted, all they would find is a transmitter and a
> receiver, but you would have loads of time from the tip off to move on,
this
> stops any risk of busted DJs and lost tunes/decks/equipment etc.
> you could even blast off a few microwaves to different locataions and
cover
> a big fuck off area for a few hours every saturday night. I think it would
> be great, and unless my curry was talking shit, theoreticalyly possible,
> trouble is Im too lazy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems (continuning the debate)
> >Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 15:20:50 -0000
> >
> > > The best oldskool I hear is on the Kool FM sunday morning shows
> >Yeah Super Sunday always rocked!
> >Reception is bloody awful where I am these days though... drives me nuts
> >trying to listen to it and constatly waving the aerial round.
> >
> >Actually, some of you here might be able to help with something I've been
> >trying to find out with no joy - does a proper roof-top FM aerial make
for
> >better or worse reception of pirate stations?  I was thinking of getting
> >one
> >but at the moment I seem to get better reception with a crappy little
> >single
> >wire aerial than with a bigger loop one -- with the 'better' aerial the
> >pirates seem to get drowned out by the mainstream BBC/Commercial
stations.
> >
> >Does anyone have advice for how to get best pirate reception?  Is a
> >directional aerial better than a loop one?  If so, how do you know which
> >direction to point it?
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>Otherwise shut the fuck up.

What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the above and the =
"if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.

This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that everyone could =
voice their opinion without getting verbally abused unless really really =
necessary.

I didn't realise that this list had turned into the Slipmatt Fan Club.

Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I believe he was the =
best DJ on a consistant level that I have heard over the last 11 years.  =
The fact is, He's just not interested anymore.

But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.

But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no intelligence or =
respect for the point that the other people are trying to get across.

Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up for slipmatt, =
you have been harsh on someone else.

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Fuck em, thats what I say.

Let the big name pull the crowd, and then me and Dest will go on and =
wipe the floor with em....

At the end of the day, who do they remember?  Slipmatt or the guys that =
smashed it after him?

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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  To: oldschool@hyperreal.org=20
  Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:32 AM
  Subject: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night



  How much was he paid for that set btw???

  Quite enjoyed this rant - I agree with Richard when he states "what an =

  absolute prick" a fair point methinks both for Slipmatts track =
selection and=20
  the fact he's into "hard house" or hard wank as I call it. This, =
constant=20
  caning of same 20 odd tunes at oldskool do's, has been a major angst =
for=20
  several years now on this list. Having never booked a DJ I'm unclear =
here=20
  but would it be possible to dictate which songs he or she cannot play =
(edge=20
  1 & don't go / please do) being prime examples? Is it possible that =
the=20
  reason all these jocks play the same tunes is their oldskool =
collection is=20
  now somewhat limited and they dare'ent risk playing anything outside =
of the=20
  mainstream because:

  a/. Scared to fuck their last/only copy up and cost/difficulty of=20
  replacement. Thus stick with the big anthems.??
  b/. Actually only have a limited oldskool selection (hard to believe)
  c/. Complete apathy and lack of effort (suspected)
  d/. Thats what the crowd wants to hear...

  Personally I would much rather here Destiny or Deluxe's set than from =
a=20
  major oldskool DJ anyway. Its just a shame punters are drawn by the =
big name=20
  DJ on the presumption that it will be good. Often it will not.

  I'm in a rantish mood today - apologies

  cheers

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

Personally I think it's all about reading the crowd. Get there early if
possible and see what the other DJs are playing. See what goes down well,
and what the crowd responds too. Obviously the crowd in Cambridge were up
for something a little different, and weren't that impressed with Slipmatt's
anthem set, but on a different night it could be totally the other way
round. The mistake the big DJ's make is to think that everyone wants to hear
the same old anthems every time, so that's what they play, but it would also
be a mistake to do the opposite and play obscure tunes all night if the
crowd aren't feeling it. At the end of the day, you're there to please the
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Hear Hear!

DJ Deluxe

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  ----- Original Message -----=20
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  Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 2:54 PM
  Subject: (oldschool) Underground v Anthems (continuning the debate)


  I seem a few posts on this last couple of days and decided to wade in =
cause
  I got some strong views on this.

  I LOVE OLDSKOOL - I go to very few oldskool events cause the music =
that gets
  played most of the time is boring and totally unrepresentative of real
  oldskool, it doesn't capture the vibe, it doesn't reflect the =
diversity of
  the scene - we get force fed the same one dimensional piano softcore =
anthems
  over and over again. And I'm not the only person that feels like that =
- the
  main oldskool forums are full of posts from disgruntled oldskool =
headz.

  Its true DJ's have to play to the crowds - a lot of the crowds want =
anthems.
  Most oldskool is bolted on as an extra room to a D&B or hardcore night =
and
  most of the crowd are partial oldskool fans having got into the music
  through the current scenes - its sad but many of them are under the
  impression that a Ministry of Sound Oldskool CD it what its all about. =
I'm
  not dissing anyone here just pointing out that most of the people in =
an
  oldskool room are not die-hard oldskool fans and know few tunes =
outside of
  usual anthems.

  So the DJ's have to play anthems to em to keep them happy.

  Now where I put a new slant to things is this. Far too many DJ's are =
afraid
  of experimenting a little and just stick to those same old anthems. =
There is
  time in an hour set to drop 3/4 lesser known tunes without clearing =
the
  dancefloor. People don't stop dancing after just one tune they don't =
know.
  If this is done consistently by most DJ's then in a few months the =
list of
  "playable anthem tunes" will have expanded to the benefit of everyone
  involved. The general crowds will become a bit more educated, the core =
fans
  won't be so disallusioned.

  At the moment the balance isn't right - the promoters/DJ's are =
catering
  totally to the occassional punters and paying absolutely no attention =
to the
  needs of the die-hard core fans. Its a really narrow minded and short
  sighted approach, yes the dancefloors are moving right now but in a =
couple
  of years time there will be no scene at all without the die-hard fans. =
These
  are the people that will turn up whatever, will dance their nads off, =
create
  the vibe and atmopshere. There is no scene without those core people =
who
  love what they are doing, casual punters move onto other things very =
quickly
  and without the core nutters obviously enjoying themselves new casual
  punters won't take a look and think "I'll have a bit of that" and join =
in.

  In response to someone's post about get off your arse and do your own =
event
  I think you'll find that the real fans are so pissed off with the =
major
  promoters that this is exactly what is happening, lots of smaller =
events
  popping up to cater for the headz, hardcore revival to name one. =
Personally
  doing my own Sunday session for exactly that reason - get some safe =
people
  who know the score down to the venue, drop some wicked tunes the way =
it
  should be - have a decent oldskool event to go to. Rather be 100, 150 =
people
  but spot on than a few thousand but wank.


  PS I think you'll find there are 2 types of DJ's - ones that still =
love the
  music and ones that are cashing in on their past reputation to earn =
money.
  None of the above will happen and the future of the scene will not be
  assured without losing the DJ's in the later category - cause they =
will flog
  the same old anthems to death and kill the scene off without giving a =
shit,
  its too much effort for them and not worth the risk to try anything =
new or
  change the records in their box from one event to the next.

  PPS as to people coming up to DJ's and requesting tunes - you got to =
think
  are these the people that represent the whole crowd/scene. Would =
anyone that
  is really into the scene actually go and make a request from the DJ? =
NO NO
  NO - only people who are used to school discos and barmitzva's and =
wedding
  think they can go up to the DJ and request a bloody tune - ADVICE =
IGNORE
  THESE CLUELESS TWATS.


  Steve
  aka DJ Moody
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Yeah I think Deans gone soft in his old age ; )

Got the cheque btw Dave, cheers 4 that geez

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

i always tried to avoid big name dj's when i was raving as half the time we 
did hear em we was dissapointed in the tunes they played ..(apart from a 
select few )
I  used to go 2  EXODUS free party where all the dj's played  underground 
tunes (no anthems at all) and them tunes are the ones i play and love now ..
i only know what the anthems are cos of listening to the same ratpack sets 
over and over again ..
::ITS ALL ABOUT ££$£$£$£$
and im guessin they do all right out of it 2

8o)
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>Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2003 16:42:28 -0000
>
>Fuck em, thats what I say.
>
>Let the big name pull the crowd, and then me and Dest will go on and wipe 
>the floor with em....
>
>At the end of the day, who do they remember?  Slipmatt or the guys that 
>smashed it after him?
>
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>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: andy gugs
>   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:32 AM
>   Subject: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night
>
>
>
>   How much was he paid for that set btw???
>
>   Quite enjoyed this rant - I agree with Richard when he states "what an
>   absolute prick" a fair point methinks both for Slipmatts track selection 
>and
>   the fact he's into "hard house" or hard wank as I call it. This, 
>constant
>   caning of same 20 odd tunes at oldskool do's, has been a major angst for
>   several years now on this list. Having never booked a DJ I'm unclear 
>here
>   but would it be possible to dictate which songs he or she cannot play 
>(edge
>   1 & don't go / please do) being prime examples? Is it possible that the
>   reason all these jocks play the same tunes is their oldskool collection 
>is
>   now somewhat limited and they dare'ent risk playing anything outside of 
>the
>   mainstream because:
>
>   a/. Scared to fuck their last/only copy up and cost/difficulty of
>   replacement. Thus stick with the big anthems.??
>   b/. Actually only have a limited oldskool selection (hard to believe)
>   c/. Complete apathy and lack of effort (suspected)
>   d/. Thats what the crowd wants to hear...
>
>   Personally I would much rather here Destiny or Deluxe's set than from a
>   major oldskool DJ anyway. Its just a shame punters are drawn by the big 
>name
>   DJ on the presumption that it will be good. Often it will not.
>
>   I'm in a rantish mood today - apologies
>
>   cheers
>
>   Andrew
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Cambridge uni last night

> P.s after watching that clip of Deluxe i found a tune i loved but forgot
> (house crew - we are hardcore)  thx for the reminder

Bonus point if you can work out what he is mixing into!
You can hear the distorted bassline coming in as he chops it, and a quick
sample from it right at the end of the video clip :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Attn. Ebayers with Paypal!

Ya, someone in Indonesia emailed me the other day, wanting to purchase 4
Pioneer CDJ1000s, at US$1100 each roughly, throuhg my website. But he
wants to pay by credit card, and he can't do so with either of the sites
I'm affiliated with that have them, nor can he send me the money with his
card. I sure as hell hope he finds a way, I could sure use the money,
especially after someone's credit card was rejected and I didn't get the
US$170 commission I was expecting from their purchase of a Korg Triton
ST88.

That's www.dneproductions.com by the way (*shameless plug*)


> Yeah, he doesn't want to send cash, it's all good. This way I get my money
> faster, he get's his tune faster. Moral of story is, anybody who does
> trading on ebay should get themselves a fucking Paypal account. It makes
> things a whole lot smoother.
> 
> 
> Tell me about it - I've had numerous rows with Paypal over their limited 
> country coverage. An extreme bitch if you do not live in the most modern of 
> countries.....I live in Malaysia - the only countries in asia that do accept 
> Paypal to my knowledge are Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan. Thus for poor 
> sods like me I have to post sodding cash for wins on ebay or, if I am lucky, 
> they will accept my credit cards. Not to mention the fact I have to round 
> each purchase up to the nearest 5 or 10 quid note (no probs for US sellers 
> as they have the wonderful dollar note). And I won't even start on the 
> postage and time it takes tunes to get here. I tell ya, the things a humble 
> record collector has to put up with just for a few quality tunes. That said 
> at least the weather is warmer,corn is cheaper and I get more premiership 
> coverage than when I lived in London. mmmmmm suppose I should shut the fuck 
> up really.
> 
> cheers
> 
> andrew
> 
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im shit with names i got it on mp3 somewhere its bugging me now

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>
> > P.s after watching that clip of Deluxe i found a tune i loved but forgot
> > (house crew - we are hardcore)  thx for the reminder
>
>Bonus point if you can work out what he is mixing into!
>You can hear the distorted bassline coming in as he chops it, and a quick
>sample from it right at the end of the video clip :)
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.


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>   ---- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Darren 
>   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org 
>   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
>   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> 
> What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> 
> This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> 
> I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> Slipmatt Fan Club.
> 
> Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> not interested anymore.
> 
> But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> 
> But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> people are trying to get across.
> 
> Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> 
> "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> DJ Deluxe
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> Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> 
> 
>   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> not
>   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
>   some records. 
> 
>   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> rules;
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> have to
>   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> own
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From oldschool-return-82686-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 11 12:52:45 2003
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Subject: (oldschool) My solution to the Slipper's anthem piccadilly...

Yeah -- sounds like he's not quite in it for love of the music anymore.
So my suggestion is this.  He gets paid, what, 650 quid for an oldschool
set?  Let's bump it up to 1000.  Yeah, 1000 will do nicely -- but there
needs to be a stipulation in a contract or something, some sort of clause,
that every time he plays an "anthem" tune, a "Ratpack" tune, his fee goes
down by 100.  Kind of an incentive to dig out the lesser known tracks from
his bag of tricks, huh?  And of course if he plays anything from the past
two years such as hard house or whatnot his entire fee is null and void.

I'd be interested to see just who from back in the day would be up for a
challenge such as this -- an oldskool set with your reputation and your
paycheck on the line.  ;)

Take care,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
What ya need is a protest
turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an 
anthem ????
now that will work !

ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)


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>From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
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>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
>
>I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
>oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
>nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
>other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
>mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
>
>
>  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> >   ---- Original Message -----
> >   From: Darren
> >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> >
> > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> >
> > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> >
> > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> >
> > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > not interested anymore.
> >
> > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> >
> > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > people are trying to get across.
> >
> > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> >
> > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > DJ Deluxe
> >
> > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> >
> > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> >
> >
> >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > not
> >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> >   some records.
> >
> >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > rules;
> >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > have to
> >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> > own
> >   money.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

> but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.

I dont ever remember seeing Slipmatt on this list LOL

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Subject: (oldschool) Calling anyone that went to Milwaukees

Right then, im taking over the controls of the official site for the club
from Jay (Fat Controller) as he doesnt have any time to do it himself.

What Im after is any info people have, photos, flyers, stories, mix tapes,
memories etc etc.
(All items would be returned after ive scanned/recorded them)

Im thinking about having the following sections, if anyone has any other
ideas or additions they would like to see, then please let me know by email,
rather than posting on here.

Club history
Sound and light spec's
Photos
Flyers
Online mixes
Stories from old regulars
Forum for meetups/remenising etc


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

Freaky! I suggested threatening to break the legs of DJs who
play too many anthems on this very mailing list...FOUR YEARS
AGO!!!

That's why people need to put up, or shut the fuck up.

Maybe we should try and infiltrate Saturday's anti-war march
with our anti-anthem-bashing banners. At least we'd get
nationwide coverage!


 --- Badger boy <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com> wrote: > it wont
make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> What ya need is a protest
> turning up outside big events with banners saying NO
> ANTHEMS or the like
> or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who
> dances to an 
> anthem ????
> now that will work !
> 
> ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
> 
> 
> <br><br><br><html><DIV><A 
>
href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/">http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
> 
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> <P>&nbsp;</P>
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> 
> 
> 
> >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem
> bashing
> >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> >
> >
> >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Darren
> > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > >
> > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like
> the
> > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go"
> stuff.
> > >
> > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > >
> > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > >
> > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that
> I
> > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's
> just
> > > not interested anymore.
> > >
> > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > >
> > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > people are trying to get across.
> > >
> > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking
> up
> > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > >
> > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > DJ Deluxe
> > >
> > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > >
> > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > >
> > >
> > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt,
> it's
> > > not
> > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just
> played
> > >   some records.
> > >
> > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > > rules;
> > >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > > have to
> > >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of
> your
> > > own
> > >   money.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) My solution to the Slipper's anthem piccadilly...

Fucking awesome idea! 

You could even record the mix as evidence if he got arsey
and legal about it. It could be called a 'non-playlist
contract'. 

You may have just revolutionised dance music, mate! 
I think this kind of contract could bring back those more
obscure DJs from back in the day...

 --- Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote: > Yeah
-- sounds like he's not quite in it for love of the
> music anymore.
> So my suggestion is this.  He gets paid, what, 650 quid
> for an oldschool
> set?  Let's bump it up to 1000.  Yeah, 1000 will do nicely
> -- but there
> needs to be a stipulation in a contract or something, some
> sort of clause,
> that every time he plays an "anthem" tune, a "Ratpack"
> tune, his fee goes
> down by 100.  Kind of an incentive to dig out the lesser
> known tracks from
> his bag of tricks, huh?  And of course if he plays
> anything from the past
> two years such as hard house or whatnot his entire fee is
> null and void.
> 
> I'd be interested to see just who from back in the day
> would be up for a
> challenge such as this -- an oldskool set with your
> reputation and your
> paycheck on the line.  ;)
> 
> Take care,
> - Chris Purity
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Calling anyone that went to Milwaukees

I've got pretty much every single flyer for Equinox / Milwaukees from
October '92 to around late '95 or so... including the entire "space"
series.. if you're at BreakPirates on sunday (which you should be!!) i can
give you them then.

Dave


> What Im after is any info people have, photos, flyers, stories, mix tapes,
> memories etc etc.
> (All items would be returned after ive scanned/recorded them)


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Calling anyone that went to Milwaukees

> I've got pretty much every single flyer for Equinox / Milwaukees from
> October '92 to around late '95 or so... including the entire "space"
> series.. if you're at BreakPirates on sunday (which you should be!!) i can
> give you them then.

Ive got a ton of em here too, but it would be wicked if i could borrow them
incase im missing  any :)
See ya sunday!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Calling anyone that went to Milwaukees

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Calling anyone that went to Milwaukees

>Thetre is a website for it!! Shit never knew about that! I have some old
flyers. Only went there a few times and I was living in >Rushden, bah, it's
a burnt out shell now:-(

Rushden was a mad little place. I remember being about ten years old and
going into that department store that was like a maze, and took about 15
mins to get to some records on the third floor at the back or sommat to see
what they had.

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Subject: (oldschool) tune Id


Massive 92 tune as played by Top-Buzz, running piano and stabs throughout
with sample "Think it's time to rock"

It's on Top-Buzz Amnesia House 92 if that helps. Last tune.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
pay/commercial raves in the first place
gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get none of
this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough as
f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me 10
years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the record is
actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played at
45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of affairs
with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed the
anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes cos
it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the crowd!'

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
What ya need is a protest
turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
anthem ????
now that will work !

ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)


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>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
>
>I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
>oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
>nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
>other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
>mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
>
>
>  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> >   ---- Original Message -----
> >   From: Darren
> >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> >
> > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> >
> > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> >
> > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> >
> > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > not interested anymore.
> >
> > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> >
> > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > people are trying to get across.
> >
> > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> >
> > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > DJ Deluxe
> >
> > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> >
> > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> >
> >
> >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > not
> >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> >   some records.
> >
> >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > rules;
> >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > have to
> >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) tune Id

probably

Omer & Crooks - Grand Piano EP (Timerock) (Strategy)

but i'd need to hear the sample to be sure.

wicked tune.

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Subject: (oldschool) tune Id



Massive 92 tune as played by Top-Buzz, running piano and stabs throughout
with sample "Think it's time to rock"

It's on Top-Buzz Amnesia House 92 if that helps. Last tune.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

>>I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
>>mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.

'fraid not m8.  You think Slippers gives 2 hoots about what you think, when
hes being paid £650 an hour ?  Don't think so.


I totally respect Slipmatt for what hes done for the scene..... but to be
honest, i agree with Destiny & the others ...he plays the same stuff every
time now.  In fact i could almost guess his next set & write it down for
you.... its THAT predictable as far as i'm concerned.

FACT :  someone i know once asked him to play "pennywise" & the response was
"whats that ?" & he was deadly serious.

But...hes not comitting a crime eh ?? Hes milking it for what its worth & of
course hes minted - hes not stupid... hes been around from day 1 & has the
name which will always pull the crowd. I know hes playing house sets as well
& i reckon his old skool stuff has been watered down to move in line with
that in some ways.  If i'm listening to one of his old sets from Universe,
Dreamscape, Edge or whatever... theres some amazing underground stuff,  but
you will NEVER hear that from him now - 100% guaranteed.   (they should put
that on the flyer - we guarantee you WILL hear Xpansions, Digital Domain,
Edge 1... 100% blah blah).

Ratpack are another prime example.  Great act back in the day, i love
pulling out & listening to their old tapes... when they played TUNES !!
Stuff like Mad Ragga John, Andronicus & all sorts of underground stuff.
When i hear them these days,  i'm not sure if they are taking the piss or
not - half their set seems to be nu-skool breaks or new remixes of old
tunes. The other half is Trip 2 Trumpton, Captain of the ship, Awesome 3 &
Sonz Of A Loop Da Loop Era.  While i've got nothing against this & some of
those new tunes are very well done....  if you go to an Old Skool party -
you don't wanna hear Nu-Skool right ???  Otherwise you'd go to a Nu skool
party.  I loved their old style, why can't they be like that again ??  Yet
everyone still adores 'em...

These guys won't change their way,  they don't need to & its probably more
hassle than its worth to go searching for a load of obscure tunes again.
Hell, every time i see Ratpack at Sounds Of Eden - they are always looking
at our records because they can't believe that we've got original covers &
the condition of the tunes.  Their originals went out the window years ago
(hence why they are still "looking out my window", lol)

At the end of the day, it comes down to what you like i guess.  I still love
any old skool parties & i will listen to the tunes , whatever they are...but
I'd much rather listen to anyone off this list who plays underground, proper
old skool.

You know the score.








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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named 
dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter 
skelter

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>From: "cupid..stunt" <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
>
>the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
>pay/commercial raves in the first place
>gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get none of
>this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
>prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough as
>f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me 10
>years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the record 
>is
>actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played at
>45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
>impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of affairs
>with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed the
>anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes cos
>it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the crowd!'
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>
>
>it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
>What ya need is a protest
>turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
>or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
>anthem ????
>now that will work !
>
>ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
>
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> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> >
> >
> >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Darren
> > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > >
> > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > >
> > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > >
> > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > >
> > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > not interested anymore.
> > >
> > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > >
> > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > people are trying to get across.
> > >
> > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > >
> > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > DJ Deluxe
> > >
> > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > >
> > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > >
> > >
> > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > > not
> > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> > >   some records.
> > >
> > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > > rules;
> > >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > > have to
> > >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> > > own
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

If only it were the same today. This country is fucked up. You have to get a
license to fart now!! So a lot of you are breaking the law on a regular
basis!!!


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


> it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> skelter
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> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
> >
> >the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
> >pay/commercial raves in the first place
> >gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get none
of
> >this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
> >prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough as
> >f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me
10
> >years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the record
> >is
> >actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played
at
> >45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
> >impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of
affairs
> >with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed
the
> >anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes
cos
> >it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the
crowd!'
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> >What ya need is a protest
> >turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
> >or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
> >anthem ????
> >now that will work !
> >
> >ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
> >
> >
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> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> > >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> > >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> > >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Darren
> > > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > > >
> > > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > > >
> > > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > > not interested anymore.
> > > >
> > > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > > >
> > > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > > people are trying to get across.
> > > >
> > > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > > >
> > > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > > DJ Deluxe
> > > >
> > > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > > > not
> > > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> > > >   some records.
> > > >
> > > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > > > rules;
> > > >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > > > have to
> > > >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> > > > own
> > > >   money.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

lol no real change over the past 10 years then, i remember when exodus used
to claim squatters rights on the warehouses cos it would take the legal bods
48 hours to get the warrent to move us on! good clean fun:-D
then they gave us the criminal justice bill so we had to resort to force in
numbers!!
LMAO!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
Sent: 11 February 2003 19:26
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


If only it were the same today. This country is fucked up. You have to get a
license to fart now!! So a lot of you are breaking the law on a regular
basis!!!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


> it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> skelter
>
> <br><br><br><html><DIV><A
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> >From: "cupid..stunt" <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
> >
> >the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
> >pay/commercial raves in the first place
> >gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get none
of
> >this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
> >prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough as
> >f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me
10
> >years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the record
> >is
> >actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played
at
> >45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
> >impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of
affairs
> >with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed
the
> >anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes
cos
> >it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the
crowd!'
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> >What ya need is a protest
> >turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
> >or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
> >anthem ????
> >now that will work !
> >
> >ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
> >
> >
> ><br><br><br><html><DIV><A
>
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> >om/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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> > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> > >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> > >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> > >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Darren
> > > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > > >
> > > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > > >
> > > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > > not interested anymore.
> > > >
> > > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > > >
> > > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > > people are trying to get across.
> > > >
> > > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > > >
> > > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > > DJ Deluxe
> > > >
> > > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > > > not
> > > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> > > >   some records.
> > > >
> > > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > > > rules;
> > > >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > > > have to
> > > >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> > > > own
> > > >   money.
> > > > __________________________________________________
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week - now 2003.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: cupid..stunt [mailto:cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 11 February 2003 19:34
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


lol no real change over the past 10 years then, i remember when exodus used
to claim squatters rights on the warehouses cos it would take the legal bods
48 hours to get the warrent to move us on! good clean fun:-D
then they gave us the criminal justice bill so we had to resort to force in
numbers!!
LMAO!!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
Sent: 11 February 2003 19:26
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


If only it were the same today. This country is fucked up. You have to get a
license to fart now!! So a lot of you are breaking the law on a regular
basis!!!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


> it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> skelter
>
> <br><br><br><html><DIV><A
>
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> >From: "cupid..stunt" <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
> >
> >the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
> >pay/commercial raves in the first place
> >gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get none
of
> >this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
> >prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough as
> >f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me
10
> >years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the record
> >is
> >actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played
at
> >45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
> >impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of
affairs
> >with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed
the
> >anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes
cos
> >it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the
crowd!'
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> >What ya need is a protest
> >turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
> >or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
> >anthem ????
> >now that will work !
> >
> >ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
> >
> >
> ><br><br><br><html><DIV><A
>
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> >om/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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> > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> > >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> > >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> > >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Darren
> > > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > > >
> > > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > > >
> > > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > > not interested anymore.
> > > >
> > > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > > >
> > > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > > people are trying to get across.
> > > >
> > > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > > >
> > > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
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yes diss those loaded ministry britney burnt out commercial industry sluts...


> it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named 
> dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter 
> skelter
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

shame we don't get any info about them round here, mind you there is still a
few going on round this way just not got off me arse to find out what the
crack with em is!
think i'll wait for some nice summer ones in a field as i'm not sure the
artificial energy is good enuff to block out the british winter anymore :-|

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There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week - now 2003.

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
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lol no real change over the past 10 years then, i remember when exodus used
to claim squatters rights on the warehouses cos it would take the legal bods
48 hours to get the warrent to move us on! good clean fun:-D
then they gave us the criminal justice bill so we had to resort to force in
numbers!!
LMAO!!!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 11 February 2003 19:26
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If only it were the same today. This country is fucked up. You have to get a
license to fart now!! So a lot of you are breaking the law on a regular
basis!!!


----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:24 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt


> it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> skelter
>
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> >From: "cupid..stunt" <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
> >
> >the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
> >pay/commercial raves in the first place
> >gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get none
of
> >this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
> >prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough as
> >f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me
10
> >years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the record
> >is
> >actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played
at
> >45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
> >impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of
affairs
> >with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed
the
> >anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes
cos
> >it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the
crowd!'
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> >What ya need is a protest
> >turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the like
> >or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
> >anthem ????
> >now that will work !
> >
> >ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
> >
> >
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> > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> > >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> > >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> > >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: Darren
> > > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > > >
> > > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > > >
> > > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > > >
> > > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > > not interested anymore.
> > > >
> > > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > > >
> > > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > > people are trying to get across.
> > > >
> > > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > > >
> > > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > > DJ Deluxe
> > > >
> > > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > > > not
> > > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> > > >   some records.
> > > >
> > > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > > > rules;
> > > >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > > > have to
> > > >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> > > > own
> > > >   money.
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there are no parties like the Exodus ones

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>From: "Steve" <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:39:10 -0000
>
>There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week - now 2003.
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: cupid..stunt [mailto:cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com]
>Sent: 11 February 2003 19:34
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>
>
>lol no real change over the past 10 years then, i remember when exodus used
>to claim squatters rights on the warehouses cos it would take the legal 
>bods
>48 hours to get the warrent to move us on! good clean fun:-D
>then they gave us the criminal justice bill so we had to resort to force in
>numbers!!
>LMAO!!!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
>Sent: 11 February 2003 19:26
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>
>
>If only it were the same today. This country is fucked up. You have to get 
>a
>license to fart now!! So a lot of you are breaking the law on a regular
>basis!!!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:24 PM
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>
>
> > it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> > thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> > dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> > skelter
> >
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> >
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>om/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "cupid..stunt" <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
> > >
> > >the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
> > >pay/commercial raves in the first place
> > >gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get 
>none
>of
> > >this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
> > >prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough 
>as
> > >f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me
>10
> > >years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the 
>record
> > >is
> > >actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played
>at
> > >45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
> > >impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of
>affairs
> > >with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed
>the
> > >anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes
>cos
> > >it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the
>crowd!'
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
> > >Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >
> > >
> > >it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> > >What ya need is a protest
> > >turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the 
>like
> > >or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
> > >anthem ????
> > >now that will work !
> > >
> > >ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
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> > > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > > >
> > > >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> > > >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> > > >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> > > >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > > >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > > > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: Darren
> > > > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > > > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > > > not interested anymore.
> > > > >
> > > > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > > > >
> > > > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > > > people are trying to get across.
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > > > DJ Deluxe
> > > > >
> > > > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > > > >
> > > > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > > > > not
> > > > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> > > > >   some records.
> > > > >
> > > > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
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From oldschool-return-82708-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 11 19:52:33 2003
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

its a joke the way the country is going with rules regulations laws etc
if we dont stand up now we will have nothin in 10 yrs ..
Them polititians are WaNkErS !!!!!!!!!this has nothing to do with slipmatt 
tho ,


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>From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 19:26:29 -0000
>
>If only it were the same today. This country is fucked up. You have to get 
>a
>license to fart now!! So a lot of you are breaking the law on a regular
>basis!!!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 7:24 PM
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
>
>
> > it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> > thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> > dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> > skelter
> >
> > <br><br><br><html><DIV><A
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> >
> > >From: "cupid..stunt" <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 18:12:39 -0000
> > >
> > >the whole anthems thing was the main reason why I never went to
> > >pay/commercial raves in the first place
> > >gimme a dirty old warehouse or a field any day of the week! i'd get 
>none
>of
> > >this overplayed anthem crap either :-D
> > >prime example of anthems taking over from what is in actual fact rough 
>as
> > >f**k is.... I just got one of my most wanted tunes today, it's taken me
>10
> > >years to track down and for what reason??? ........... because the 
>record
> > >is
> > >actually meant to be played at 33rpm (hard house) instead it was played
>at
> > >45rpm at -8% pitch! gave it a whole different edge and made it almost
> > >impossible to get ID'd. but the point is with the current state of
>affairs
> > >with anthems (lets be honest the commercial scene has always overplayed
>the
> > >anthems anyway) people wouldn't bugger around with the speeds of tunes
>cos
> > >it would just be 'too adventurous and might upset a portion of the
>crowd!'
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Badger boy [mailto:wotisgoingon@hotmail.com]
> > >Sent: 11 February 2003 13:33
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >
> > >
> > >it wont make a blind bit of difference moanin on lists .
> > >What ya need is a protest
> > >turning up outside big events with banners saying NO ANTHEMS or the 
>like
> > >or better still go as far to break the legs of anyone who dances to an
> > >anthem ????
> > >now that will work !
> > >
> > >ill even donate my sledgehammer for the job .....8o)
> > >
> > >
> > ><br><br><br><html><DIV><A
> >
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> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > >Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2003 12:46:28 +0000 (GMT)
> > > >
> > > >I am in 100% agreement that anthem-bashing is killing
> > > >oldskool. The only solution is to put on non-anthem bashing
> > > >nights, with no anthem-bashing allowed. I don't see any
> > > >other solution, but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > > >mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  --- DJDeluxe <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk> wrote: >
> > > > >   ---- Original Message -----
> > > > >   From: Darren
> > > > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > >   Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 11:25 AM
> > > > >   Subject: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > > >Otherwise shut the fuck up.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is everyones problem?  We've had comments like the
> > > > > above and the "if you dont like it, dont fuckin go" stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > This list has gone to pot.  It USED to be a place that
> > > > > everyone could voice their opinion without getting
> > > > > verbally abused unless really really necessary.
> > > > >
> > > > > I didn't realise that this list had turned into the
> > > > > Slipmatt Fan Club.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, I actually respect Slippers a great deal, and I
> > > > > believe he was the best DJ on a consistant level that I
> > > > > have heard over the last 11 years.  The fact is, He's just
> > > > > not interested anymore.
> > > > >
> > > > > But he will be back.......  claiming he never left.
> > > > >
> > > > > But with comments like "shut the fuck up" shows no
> > > > > intelligence or respect for the point that the other
> > > > > people are trying to get across.
> > > > >
> > > > > Subject title "A bit harsh on Slipmatt".  In sticking up
> > > > > for slipmatt, you have been harsh on someone else.
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dear Pot, you are black, love Kettle."
> > > > > DJ Deluxe
> > > > >
> > > > > www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > > > >
> > > > > Quote of the month - "Spoon it
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   I think everyone's being a bit harsh on Slipmatt, it's
> > > > > not
> > > > >   as if he mugged an old lady or anything - he just played
> > > > >   some records.
> > > > >
> > > > >   At the end of the day it boils down to the same old
> > > > > rules;
> > > > >   if you really want to hear the music you want you'll
> > > > > have to
> > > > >   promote an event yourself and gamble maybe £2k of your
> > > > > own
> > > > >   money.
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i like britney 8o)and sluts 8oP

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>
>yes diss those loaded ministry britney burnt out commercial industry 
>sluts...
>
>
> > it all started off in fields and warehouses back in the day
> > thats where it should still be NOW if it was i know id still go no named
> > dj's and still able to pull in more punters than dreamscape or helter
> > skelter
> >
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Looooollll
nana they rock but all the free parties and festval offshoot raves are 
great... pick a traveller festival and test the offshoots raves_ prime...


> there are no parties like the Exodus ones


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Anyone know who done the D&B mix of 'it takes more' and is it out?
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) tune Id

Cheers Mike. And I see you put up your copy of Death By Stero on e-bay eh?
Man, I can't belive you are parting with that tune. Please tell me you
have another! =0)



On Tue, 11 Feb 2003, Mike Bosley wrote:

> probably
>
> Omer & Crooks - Grand Piano EP (Timerock) (Strategy)
>
> but i'd need to hear the sample to be sure.
>
> wicked tune.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> Massive 92 tune as played by Top-Buzz, running piano and stabs throughout
> with sample "Think it's time to rock"
>
> It's on Top-Buzz Amnesia House 92 if that helps. Last tune.
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You cheeky little fucker, now i think i may nail something else in your 
fence!!!!!


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Yeah I think Deans gone soft in his old age ; )

Got the cheque btw Dave, cheers 4 that geez


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I have, about a year and a half to 2 years ago, but I think it was someone
pretending to be him.


> > but I'm no genius so maybe moaning on
> > mailing lists WILL change what the big names play.
> 
> I dont ever remember seeing Slipmatt on this list LOL
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There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week - now 2003.

very true Steve, when in London I went to them often...sadly most of em 
really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying Exodus or for that 
matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of trouble because they 
did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more hardcore - in the 
wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough love and peace. Still 
went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to me, raving was 
originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after the girlies. Are 
United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going? - I know Emersion 
is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and then.

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- I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.

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Headfuk are still around...not sure about the rest. Being a gabba head I 
only really know of Crossbones and Panik! still doing what they do best, but 
there's loads of psy-trance systems at the moment. Shoreditch seems to be 
the fashionable place for squats at present, they've had some massive ones 
there recently...

>very true Steve, when in London I went to them often...sadly most of em 
>really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying Exodus or for that 
>matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of trouble because they 
>did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more hardcore - in the 
>wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough love and peace. 
>Still went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to me, raving 
>was originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after the girlies. 
>Are United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going? - I know 
>Emersion is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and then.
>
>Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up the M1 near 
>Leeds - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
>
>cheers
>
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You get a tune you have wanted for years, and on the other side is another
tune you have wanted for years too!
Got Good, 2 Bad & Hugly - Jungle - Ruff Kut today (Cheers Zak)
Been after it since 1992, turned it over and the TWO tunes on the flip are
both outstanding IDs from 92 too!
One of em has been on my site since about 3 years ago, Im surprises no-one
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the beauty about exodus was they run their own security, there was very few
probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an baseball bats ;-)
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There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week - now 2003.

very true Steve, when in London I went to them often...sadly most of em
really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying Exodus or for that
matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of trouble because they
did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more hardcore - in the
wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough love and peace. Still
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United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going? - I know Emersion
is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and then.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
small way the revolution has already begun. 

In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
breaks?

My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.




 --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: > 
> the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> there was very few
> probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> baseball bats ;-)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> now 2003.
> 
> very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> often...sadly most of em
> really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> Exodus or for that
> matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> trouble because they
> did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> hardcore - in the
> wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> love and peace. Still
> went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> me, raving was
> originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> the girlies. Are
> United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> - I know Emersion
> is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> then.
> 
> Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> the M1 near Leeds
> - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> 
> cheers
> 
> andrew
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em .
Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
it was organised ...

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>From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool 
>DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
>
>At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
>did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
>small way the revolution has already begun.
>
>In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
>quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
>what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
>lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
>breaks?
>
>My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
>of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
>got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
>push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
>party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
>propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
>a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
>totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
>
>
>
>
>  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > there was very few
> > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > baseball bats ;-)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > now 2003.
> >
> > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > often...sadly most of em
> > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > Exodus or for that
> > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > trouble because they
> > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > hardcore - in the
> > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > love and peace. Still
> > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > me, raving was
> > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > the girlies. Are
> > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > - I know Emersion
> > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > then.
> >
> > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > the M1 near Leeds
> > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dont you love it when....

wow!!!

toooo freaky the exact same thing happened to me today and i was gonna post 
on b2vos! i got a kf tune, and the flip was a tune ive wanted id'ed for a 
little while, so i was pleased

:-DDD

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>You get a tune you have wanted for years, and on the other side is another
>tune you have wanted for years too!
>Got Good, 2 Bad & Hugly - Jungle - Ruff Kut today (Cheers Zak)
>Been after it since 1992, turned it over and the TWO tunes on the flip are
>both outstanding IDs from 92 too!
>One of em has been on my site since about 3 years ago, Im surprises no-one
>ever got it!?
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / oldskool DJs

Can't say I'm a regular but I know someone who is involved in a sound system
whose given me the lowdown. General advice is like people have said London
ones are heavy with some nasty elements but free parties out in the sticks
are much more sorted and friendly.

Last one I went to was New Year eve and it was wicked. 5 rooms of tunes
involving sound systems from 8 rigs (one room with 4 rigs hooked together).
Was over 2 levels of an office/warehouse block in Reading and felt like a
super club set up to me. The tunes were D&B, Hard House and Gabba in general
but there was one rig that played oldskool.

If you wanted a release from anthem bashing this is the place. Personally
loved the Hard house too which is quite suprising really. And what a tonic
to pay £1.50 on way in rather than £25 for a NYE rip off club - I'd vowed
not to go out NYE anymore so this was perfect - at same time back in London
some friends of mine went out driking and spent like £150 and all came back
and admitted it was a shit night - my night was fcukin wicked :)

There was no trouble, no dodgyness - was nice friendly, felt totally safe
and comfortable all night.

Looks like I'm gonna be playing from time to time so will keep you in the
loop.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 February 2003 12:23
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
oldskool DJs


yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em .
Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
it was organised ...

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>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool
>DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
>
>At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
>did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
>small way the revolution has already begun.
>
>In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
>quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
>what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
>lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
>breaks?
>
>My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
>of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
>got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
>push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
>party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
>propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
>a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
>totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
>
>
>
>
>  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > there was very few
> > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > baseball bats ;-)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > now 2003.
> >
> > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > often...sadly most of em
> > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > Exodus or for that
> > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > trouble because they
> > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > hardcore - in the
> > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > love and peace. Still
> > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > me, raving was
> > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > the girlies. Are
> > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > - I know Emersion
> > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > then.
> >
> > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > the M1 near Leeds
> > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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PS I realised my mistake on the maths 9 rigs - 5 rooms - lol

Steve
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / oldskool DJs


Can't say I'm a regular but I know someone who is involved in a sound system
whose given me the lowdown. General advice is like people have said London
ones are heavy with some nasty elements but free parties out in the sticks
are much more sorted and friendly.

Last one I went to was New Year eve and it was wicked. 5 rooms of tunes
involving sound systems from 8 rigs (one room with 4 rigs hooked together).
Was over 2 levels of an office/warehouse block in Reading and felt like a
super club set up to me. The tunes were D&B, Hard House and Gabba in general
but there was one rig that played oldskool.

If you wanted a release from anthem bashing this is the place. Personally
loved the Hard house too which is quite suprising really. And what a tonic
to pay £1.50 on way in rather than £25 for a NYE rip off club - I'd vowed
not to go out NYE anymore so this was perfect - at same time back in London
some friends of mine went out driking and spent like £150 and all came back
and admitted it was a shit night - my night was fcukin wicked :)

There was no trouble, no dodgyness - was nice friendly, felt totally safe
and comfortable all night.

Looks like I'm gonna be playing from time to time so will keep you in the
loop.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 12 February 2003 12:23
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
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yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em .
Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
it was organised ...

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>From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool
>DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
>
>At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
>did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
>small way the revolution has already begun.
>
>In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
>quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
>what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
>lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
>breaks?
>
>My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
>of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
>got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
>push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
>party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
>propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
>a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
>totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
>
>
>
>
>  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > there was very few
> > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > baseball bats ;-)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > now 2003.
> >
> > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > often...sadly most of em
> > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > Exodus or for that
> > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > trouble because they
> > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > hardcore - in the
> > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > love and peace. Still
> > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > me, raving was
> > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > the girlies. Are
> > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > - I know Emersion
> > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > then.
> >
> > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > the M1 near Leeds
> > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>Date:=20Wed,=2012=20Feb=202003=2010:49:44=20+0000=20(GMT)
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>At=20the=20end=20of=20the=20day,=20Deluxe=20and=20Destiny=20WERE=20there,=20and
>did=20play=20quality=20to=20save=20the=20crowd=20from=20Slipmatt=20-=20so=20in=20a
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>In=20my=20experience,=20when=20a=20lot=20of=20people=20hear=20non-anthem,
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>My=20experience=20of=20squat=20parties=20is=20quite=20bad.=20I=20know=20a=20couple
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>=20=20---=20666=20<cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com>=20wrote:=20>
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>=20>=20-----Original=20Message-----
>=20>=20From:=20andy=20gugs=20[mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
>=20>=20Sent:=2012=20February=202003=2009:08
>=20>=20To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>=20>=20Subject:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20a=20bit=20harsh=20on=20Slipmatt
>=20>
>=20>
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>=20>=20trouble=20because=20they
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>=20>=20hardcore=20-=20in=20the
>=20>=20wrong=20sense.=20Too=20much=20crack=20and=20ketamin=20and=20not=20enough
>=20>=20love=20and=20peace.=20Still
>=20>=20went=20regulary=20though=20as=20the=20free=20party=20scene=20is=20what,=20to
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

didnt know STS was still running i heard they had stopped for a bit ??
is stig still running them ?

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>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / 
>oldskool DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:35:06 GMT+00:00
>
>STS is a pretty good alternative to Exodus. They adopt an old skool, 
>freeform, gabber, D&B policy, no cheese and pretty good atmosphere although 
>the rozzers seem to know every event they do now. None have been stopped 
>yet tho:-)
>
>
> > yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em .
> >Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
> >it was organised ...
> >
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> >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / 
>oldskool
> >DJs
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
> >
> >At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
> >did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
> >small way the revolution has already begun.
> >
> >In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
> >quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
> >what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
> >lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
> >breaks?
> >
> >My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
> >of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
> >got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
> >push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
> >party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
> >propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
> >a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
> >totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > > there was very few
> > > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > > baseball bats ;-)
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > > now 2003.
> > >
> > > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > > often...sadly most of em
> > > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > > Exodus or for that
> > > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > > trouble because they
> > > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > > hardcore - in the
> > > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > > love and peace. Still
> > > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > > me, raving was
> > > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > > the girlies. Are
> > > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > > - I know Emersion
> > > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > > then.
> > >
> > > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > > the M1 near Leeds
> > > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> > >
> > > cheers
> > >
> > > andrew
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

As=20far=20as=20=20know=20they=20just=20stopped=20for=20the=20winter.=20My=20mate=20Caine=20plays=20at=20them=20and=20he=20tells=20me=20there=20is=20one=20on=201st=20March!!


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / oldskool DJs

Was Dave Brent there on a podium doing his great dancing?

> Was over 2 levels of an office/warehouse block in Reading
> and felt like a
> super club set up to me. The tunes were D&B, Hard House
> and Gabba in general
> but there was one rig that played oldskool.

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Subject: (oldschool) london this summer

hello all

yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to london in 
the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone could help. 
  looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that the 
superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven is and 
thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to check 
out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great too...

Thanks
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

ill get my asse up and c em then i guess
used to go all the time back up till they got busted
was always on the week exodus wasnt
Morning crew !!!!

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>oldskool DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:10:56 GMT+00:00
>
>As far as  know they just stopped for the winter. My mate Caine plays at 
>them and he tells me there is one on 1st March!!
>
>
> > didnt know STS was still running i heard they had stopped for a bit ??
> >is stig still running them ?
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> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> >oldskool DJs
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:35:06 GMT+00:00
> >
> >STS is a pretty good alternative to Exodus. They adopt an old skool,
> >freeform, gabber, D&B policy, no cheese and pretty good atmosphere 
>although
> >the rozzers seem to know every event they do now. None have been stopped
> >yet tho:-)
> >
> >
> > > yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em .
> > >Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
> > >it was organised ...
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> >oldskool
> > >DJs
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
> > >did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
> > >small way the revolution has already begun.
> > >
> > >In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
> > >quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
> > >what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
> > >lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
> > >breaks?
> > >
> > >My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
> > >of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
> > >got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
> > >push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
> > >party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
> > >propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
> > >a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
> > >totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > > > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > > > there was very few
> > > > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > > > baseball bats ;-)
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > > > now 2003.
> > > >
> > > > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > > > often...sadly most of em
> > > > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > > > Exodus or for that
> > > > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > > > trouble because they
> > > > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > > > hardcore - in the
> > > > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > > > love and peace. Still
> > > > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > > > me, raving was
> > > > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > > > the girlies. Are
> > > > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > > > - I know Emersion
> > > > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > > > then.
> > > >
> > > > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > > > the M1 near Leeds
> > > > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > andrew
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

ok been out of the loop for ...well...ummm... about ..10 years, used to go
to exodus , proper stuff and kite high stuff like that at the end of my
party days, but never stopped listening to the music, just started going to
a few local old skool events  (pubs , stuff like that) but never new
anything big was still kicking off, can somone get  me info about getting
back into it.

many thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: <djhb@talk21.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
oldskool DJs


Yeah they had quite a few last year and had one NYE. They actually made some
money NYE so have splashed out on more speakers etc. Wicked atmosphere
usually too!!
Hadone in the middle of a forest last year, that was proper wicked!!


> ill get my asse up and c em then i guess
>used to go all the time back up till they got busted
>was always on the week exodus wasnt
>Morning crew !!!!
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>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
>oldskool DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:10:56 GMT+00:00
>
>As far as  know they just stopped for the winter. My mate Caine plays at
>them and he tells me there is one on 1st March!!
>
>
> > didnt know STS was still running i heard they had stopped for a bit ??
> >is stig still running them ?
> >
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> >From: djhb@talk21.com
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> >oldskool DJs
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:35:06 GMT+00:00
> >
> >STS is a pretty good alternative to Exodus. They adopt an old skool,
> >freeform, gabber, D&B policy, no cheese and pretty good atmosphere
>although
> >the rozzers seem to know every event they do now. None have been stopped
> >yet tho:-)
> >
> >
> > > yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em .
> > >Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
> > >it was organised ...
> > >
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> > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> >oldskool
> > >DJs
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
> > >
> > >At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
> > >did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
> > >small way the revolution has already begun.
> > >
> > >In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
> > >quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
> > >what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
> > >lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
> > >breaks?
> > >
> > >My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
> > >of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
> > >got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
> > >push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
> > >party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
> > >propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
> > >a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
> > >totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > > > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > > > there was very few
> > > > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > > > baseball bats ;-)
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > > > now 2003.
> > > >
> > > > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > > > often...sadly most of em
> > > > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > > > Exodus or for that
> > > > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > > > trouble because they
> > > > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > > > hardcore - in the
> > > > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > > > love and peace. Still
> > > > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > > > me, raving was
> > > > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > > > the girlies. Are
> > > > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > > > - I know Emersion
> > > > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > > > then.
> > > >
> > > > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > > > the M1 near Leeds
> > > > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> > > >
> > > > cheers
> > > >
> > > > andrew
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Dont you love it when....

I have this EP and have never checked your ID's.

Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glad you have got it as it is wicked

Keep it Real

Darren
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> You get a tune you have wanted for years, and on the other side is another
> tune you have wanted for years too!
> Got Good, 2 Bad & Hugly - Jungle - Ruff Kut today (Cheers Zak)
> Been after it since 1992, turned it over and the TWO tunes on the flip are
> both outstanding IDs from 92 too!
> One of em has been on my site since about 3 years ago, Im surprises no-one
> ever got it!?
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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From oldschool-return-82733-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 12 19:52:09 2003
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

STS used to rock man
biggleswade was never so busy
some great people used to go there
never met anyone like that anywhere else
one time i went there and had about 10 cans of stella and i pissed on 2 
girls sat down in the field i could of sworn it was a bush when my mates 
took me over there and showed me the 2 girls sat lookin at me i was 
speechless (so were they thank fuk ) it was dark and i was pissed tho


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>From: "lorin ashton" <obi.wan1@ntlworld.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / 
>oldskool DJs
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 17:38:04 -0000
>
>ok been out of the loop for ...well...ummm... about ..10 years, used to go
>to exodus , proper stuff and kite high stuff like that at the end of my
>party days, but never stopped listening to the music, just started going to
>a few local old skool events  (pubs , stuff like that) but never new
>anything big was still kicking off, can somone get  me info about getting
>back into it.
>
>many thanks
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>Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:05 PM
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>
>
>Yeah they had quite a few last year and had one NYE. They actually made 
>some
>money NYE so have splashed out on more speakers etc. Wicked atmosphere
>usually too!!
>Hadone in the middle of a forest last year, that was proper wicked!!
>
>
> > ill get my asse up and c em then i guess
> >used to go all the time back up till they got busted
> >was always on the week exodus wasnt
> >Morning crew !!!!
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> >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> >oldskool DJs
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:10:56 GMT+00:00
> >
> >As far as  know they just stopped for the winter. My mate Caine plays at
> >them and he tells me there is one on 1st March!!
> >
> >
> > > didnt know STS was still running i heard they had stopped for a bit ??
> > >is stig still running them ?
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> > >From: djhb@talk21.com
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> > >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> > >oldskool DJs
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 13:35:06 GMT+00:00
> > >
> > >STS is a pretty good alternative to Exodus. They adopt an old skool,
> > >freeform, gabber, D&B policy, no cheese and pretty good atmosphere
> >although
> > >the rozzers seem to know every event they do now. None have been 
>stopped
> > >yet tho:-)
> > >
> > >
> > > > yep generally most squat parties are like that and i have avoided em 
>.
> > > >Exodus wasnt a squatt party tho ,
> > > >it was organised ...
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >From: Darren <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> > >oldskool
> > > >DJs
> > > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 10:49:44 +0000 (GMT)
> > > >
> > > >At the end of the day, Deluxe and Destiny WERE there, and
> > > >did play quality to save the crowd from Slipmatt - so in a
> > > >small way the revolution has already begun.
> > > >
> > > >In my experience, when a lot of people hear non-anthem,
> > > >quality oldskool hardcore they don't have the slightest clue
> > > >what the music is, or when it was made. Maybe we should just
> > > >lie to the ignorant masses and say it's GOOD new skool
> > > >breaks?
> > > >
> > > >My experience of squat parties is quite bad. I know a couple
> > > >of hippies/crusties and they're quite moody and tell me it's
> > > >got to be industrial gabba or psy-trance, or maybe dub at a
> > > >push - no other music is allowed. The most recent squat
> > > >party I went to stank of piss, and had loads of hippy
> > > >propaganda everywhere. Just too political for me... They had
> > > >a dub room with a fat rasta chatting on the mike - who was
> > > >totally shite! Bit of quality control needed.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  --- 666 <cupid..stunt@ntlworld.com> wrote: >
> > > > > the beauty about exodus was they run their own security,
> > > > > there was very few
> > > > > probs as they backed it all up with rottweillers an
> > > > > baseball bats ;-)
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > > > > Sent: 12 February 2003 09:08
> > > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are illegal warehouse parties in London every week -
> > > > > now 2003.
> > > > >
> > > > > very true Steve, when in London I went to them
> > > > > often...sadly most of em
> > > > > really do attract the wrong elements. I'm not saying
> > > > > Exodus or for that
> > > > > matter Spiral tribe did not have their fair share of
> > > > > trouble because they
> > > > > did. That said the free rave london scene is a touch more
> > > > > hardcore - in the
> > > > > wrong sense. Too much crack and ketamin and not enough
> > > > > love and peace. Still
> > > > > went regulary though as the free party scene is what, to
> > > > > me, raving was
> > > > > originally all about. Go in a gang though and look after
> > > > > the girlies. Are
> > > > > United Systems, Twisted,Stinky Pink, Headfuk still going?
> > > > > - I know Emersion
> > > > > is still going because I speak with Laurie every now and
> > > > > then.
> > > > >
> > > > > Better options were, 2 yrs ago, the M40 free parties or up
> > > > > the M1 near Leeds
> > > > > - I'm a softy for outdoor raves though.
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > andrew
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Subject: (oldschool)RIPOFF

HAHA - RIGHT  - I HAVE TO MAIL SOMEONE BACK WHO IS UNHAPPY WITH ME COS A 
TRADE HAS TURNED SOUR - PLEASE SEE BELOW WAS THE ORIGINAL EMAIL FROM THE GUY 
SENDING THE TUNES TO ME

The Jungle tunes i've got are all in top
condition, some never played cos i get many delivered free that i've already
got, the songs i've got are as follows:

DJ Zinc - Reach Out
Tom & Jerry - We Can Be Free
Refuge Cru (Goldie) - Terminator 2
Doc Scott - Here Come the Drumz (Remix)
Splash - Babylon (Remix)
Fusion - Love For The World (F.O.i Mix)
URBAN SHAKEDOWN - ARSONIST (AKA SOME JUSTICE '95)
Noise Factory - Breakage 6
Fellowship ft. Wayward Mind - Dark Flower Remedy
DJ Hype - All I Have
Eskobar ft Lemon D - Right Here
DJ Hype - End Solution
Dillinja - Take My Life
DJ Zinc - Attitude Sickness
Dillinja - Pluto
DJ Zinc - Invisible Ink
Beenie Man - Gimme Di Gal
DJ Gunshot - Bad Boy
D. Brown ft.Bizzy B - Rebel Without A Cause
The Chronicles - Step Up Sid Young
Prisoner - Mr Fix It
The Guyver - I'm Coming Alive
Soundman ft Bruckwild - I Will Always Love You
88.3 ft Lisa May - Wishing On A Star
DEEP BLUE - HELICOPTER TUNE

Thats (By Coincidence) 25 top Old Skool Jungle songs. The Last one has never
left it's packet because i recieved it as a royalty because i did a bootleg
of it with Ms Dynamite's Dy-Na-Mi-Tee, you may have heard it.

I've put a couple of tunes in Capitals, these songs are very very hard to
find records which i could sell for ?10 each at least. Also you basically
got the whole Playaz 4 Real Album in there, which is collectable and worth
?25 brand new.

If all this is ok with you then i'm willing to do a straight swap. You can
then sell the rest of your songs as a smaller package which would probably
help you recieve a greater profit.

Anyway let me know soon and i'll throw on some more stuff i can find for ya.

Cheers,

Craig




Anyway let me know soon and i'll throw on some more stuff i can find for ya.

Cheers,

Craig


RIGHT - SO WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM THIS EMAIL?? 25 TUNES PLUS A COUPLE OF 
ALBUMS RIGHT??  WELL WHAT I GOT WAS HALF OF A RECENT PLAYAS ALBUM, 2 DISCS OF 
SLAMMIN VINYL CLASSICS AND HELICOPTER TUNE 2002, 1 DISC FROM JUNGLE HITS3 AND 
A 12" SINGLE ON V RECS

SO WHAT DO YOU RECKON? FAIR DEAL - WELL DESCRIBED?? OR A POOR RIP OFF ATTEMPT

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Subject: (oldschool) Back in this motherf*cka!!!

Yeah, I'm sure you all missed me loads. My computer blew up, but now I'm
back and stronger than eva.

re: rip off anthem merchant DJs. From what I've read it appears that the
main reason the offenders are playing the same 3 tunes over and over is that
they flogged their classics for crack in 1995. Twats!!!! I'm sure most DJs
aren't skint, you'd have to be a mahoosive prick to flog you fucking RECORDS
just to buy fucking Rolls Royces or whatever the Ratpack drive around in.
Jesus!

Whover said that no one knows what the fuck old skool is otr when it came
from when they hear it: I like the way u think! Let's repackage all the old
tunes as Swiss speed-hip hop and get the little shits dancing to some real
tunes. Fucking hell, if I'd been brought up to think Kelly frigging Lorrena
was where it's at I'd shit my pants to hear Trip II The Moon in a club. AND
DJs DON'T EVEN PLAY *THAT*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing =
to help.... lol!!!!!!!

DJ Deluxe

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  hello all

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  Thanks
  Anne

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I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!


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Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing to
help.... lol!!!!!!!

DJ Deluxe

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  hello all

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  superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven is and
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  out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great too...

  Thanks
  Anne

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  ----------------------------------------------
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From oldschool-return-82739-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Wed Feb 12 23:41:27 2003
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Sounds like u got robbed blind! :(

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watch the stampede.....  always £70 minimum...


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> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508180581
> 
wHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF 3 OR FOUR PEOPLE SELLING THIS 
RECENTLY.MAYBE ITS NOT HALF AS RARE AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT.  I  HAVE SEVERAL 
TUNES WHICH ARE JUST AS RARE -EVEN MORE SO! YET THEY WOULDNT GET HALF AS MUCH 
ON EBAY - ITS NOT LIKE ITS A KILLA TUNE IS IT?

HYPE MAKES THE PRICES -NOT THE TUNE- SAD BUT TRUE


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From oldschool-return-82743-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 13 00:11:39 2003
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> wHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF 3 OR FOUR PEOPLE SELLING THIS
> RECENTLY.MAYBE ITS NOT HALF AS RARE AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT

They all come out the woodwork when a copy gets loads on ebay, it happens
everytime!
Then we get saturation and copies go nice and cheap :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer

yep fotos a great idea

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=R8SUOM&key=LDW

clik a vote if ur not 2 busy
8o)

aving a comp with my mates

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>From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:58:10 -0000
>
>I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DJDeluxe" <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:09 PM
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
>
>
>Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing to
>help.... lol!!!!!!!
>
>DJ Deluxe
>
>www.kniteforce.co.uk
>
>Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Anne Aquino-Spicer
>   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:37 PM
>   Subject: (oldschool) london this summer
>
>
>   hello all
>
>   yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to london
>in
>   the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone could
>help.
>     looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that the
>   superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven is 
>and
>   thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to 
>check
>   out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great too...
>
>   Thanks
>   Anne
>
>   aim=shyann266
>   ----------------------------------------------
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>   you'll ever learn
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS

SO what are your tunes that you think are rare and should be worth a load
on ebay?

Yes, ebay is funny. I had not been selling in awhile, but I always check
to see what's getting sold, going for big money, etc. I had a copy of
Pennywise(don't really dig the tune that much myself) that I wanted to
sell, but it was never the right time. So I put it up a few weeks ago
after not seeing one up for bid for sometime. I got 50 quid for it. Low
and behold, the very next day after my auction ended there was another
copy up for sale. Let's see if he can top 50, lol. I seriously doubt it.

cheers

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 Bingoberty@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 12/02/2003 23:45:18 GMT Standard Time,
> djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk writes:
>
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508180581
> >
> wHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF 3 OR FOUR PEOPLE SELLING THIS
> RECENTLY.MAYBE ITS NOT HALF AS RARE AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT.  I  HAVE SEVERAL
> TUNES WHICH ARE JUST AS RARE -EVEN MORE SO! YET THEY WOULDNT GET HALF AS MUCH
> ON EBAY - ITS NOT LIKE ITS A KILLA TUNE IS IT?
>
> HYPE MAKES THE PRICES -NOT THE TUNE- SAD BUT TRUE
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Subject: Re: (oldschool)RIPOFF

Sounds like u got robbed blind! :(

well i didnt send his parcel, cos i never give till i receive - bit like with 
women :-)

So the fkin jokes on him - you reckon i should send his parcel back???

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> Sounds like u got robbed blind! :(
> 
I tell you what, whoever can come up with the most insulting email for this 
c*nt gets the vinyl he sent for free!!!!

Please refer to "RIP OFF" for details - remeber - the most violent, 
insulting, scandelous email gets the blokes tunes for free!




theres a comp not to be sneered at!!

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> So the fkin jokes on him - you reckon i should send his parcel back???

Only if he asks for it, and then pays postage LOL

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer

LOL. Them birds really like you mate 9.6!!!! Tony, you must have the
chunkiest neck i've ever seen!!! Are you a Cardassian???!!!



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> yep fotos a great idea
>
> http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=R8SUOM&key=LDW
>
> clik a vote if ur not 2 busy
> 8o)
>
> aving a comp with my mates
>
> <br><br><br><html><DIV><A
>
href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/">http://homepage.ntlworld.c
om/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
> tune ids&nbsp;n tune list</DIV>
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>
> >From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
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> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:58:10 -0000
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> >I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DJDeluxe" <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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> >Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing
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> >DJ Deluxe
> >
> >www.kniteforce.co.uk
> >
> >Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
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> >   hello all
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> >   yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to
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> >in
> >   the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone could
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> >     looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that
the
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> >and
> >   thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to
> >check
> >   out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great
too...
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool)oh well - this was my email to RIP OFF man

i tell u what cunt - you're getting nuffing back from me cos you try to rip 
me off.

Think you can big up against me then fuckin bring it on  - ill stick one in 
your kidneys then twist it round till your beggin me to stop

wanker

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Ok then, here ya go, hows about:

Mate what the fuck are you trying to pull??? How about I pull your arms and
beat you to death with them. I'm insulted that you tried this. You wont be
getting your tunes back, you ignorant fuck! If you even think about trying
this again you'll wake up with a horses' head. Although i hear that you
sleep with your mum, so waking up next to something repulsive is not
uncommon for you!!!



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> i tell u what cunt - you're getting nuffing back from me cos you try to
rip
> me off.
>
> Think you can big up against me then fuckin bring it on  - ill stick one
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> your kidneys then twist it round till your beggin me to stop
>
> wanker
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Subject: (oldschool) Teccie question

Well its not even that technical a question - I'm on digest and some peoples 
mails look very strange when I read through....an example is below..


djhb@talk21.com
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oldskool
DJs
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As=20far=20as=20=20know=20they=20just=20stopped=20for=20the=20winter

but this went on for about 30 lines.

Also for certain poeple whenever they mention money I get something like 
"A20" instead of 20quid or whatever. This always happens on Gazza mails for 
example but other people are fine??

What do I need to do to my laptop settings to stop this please (I use a 
Thinkpad).

cheers

Andrew




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt

Here's an idea: find out where he lives.  Drive up to where he lives
and park outside his house.  Turn your car stereo volume up and put in
an old Slipmatt mixtape.  Get on the roof of your car and get down. 
Maybe even bring some friends.  Repeat until Slipmatt buys his old
records back and plays a good set.

" Life is a flower.  Some people think its a dandelioin.  You can't
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Subject: (oldschool) soulseek

soulseek is back ya'll!


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Subject: Re: (oldschool)oh well - this was my email to RIP OFF man

how did u know my mum was a horse !!neigh!!

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>Ok then, here ya go, hows about:
>
>Mate what the fuck are you trying to pull??? How about I pull your arms and
>beat you to death with them. I'm insulted that you tried this. You wont be
>getting your tunes back, you ignorant fuck! If you even think about trying
>this again you'll wake up with a horses' head. Although i hear that you
>sleep with your mum, so waking up next to something repulsive is not
>uncommon for you!!!
>
>
>
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>
> > i tell u what cunt - you're getting nuffing back from me cos you try to
>rip
> > me off.
> >
> > Think you can big up against me then fuckin bring it on  - ill stick one
>in
> > your kidneys then twist it round till your beggin me to stop
> >
> > wanker
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer

they feel sorry for me i guess having ginger hair
i think i get my neck from riding my bike trying to hold ur head up straight 
at 180mph does get kinda tough

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>From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
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>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:45:38 -0000
>
>LOL. Them birds really like you mate 9.6!!!! Tony, you must have the
>chunkiest neck i've ever seen!!! Are you a Cardassian???!!!
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>
> > yep fotos a great idea
> >
> > http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=R8SUOM&key=LDW
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> > clik a vote if ur not 2 busy
> > 8o)
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> > aving a comp with my mates
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> > >From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:58:10 -0000
> > >
> > >I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "DJDeluxe" <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:09 PM
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> > >
> > >
> > >Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing
>to
> > >help.... lol!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >DJ Deluxe
> > >
> > >www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > >
> > >Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Anne Aquino-Spicer
> > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:37 PM
> > >   Subject: (oldschool) london this summer
> > >
> > >
> > >   hello all
> > >
> > >   yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to
>london
> > >in
> > >   the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone 
>could
> > >help.
> > >     looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that
>the
> > >   superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven 
>is
> > >and
> > >   thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to
> > >check
> > >   out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great
>too...
> > >
> > >   Thanks
> > >   Anne
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From oldschool-return-82757-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 13 09:31:55 2003
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs


STS definately on the 1st!
Mail me for any details you need!!
Boing


> ok been out of the loop for ...well...ummm... about ..10 years, used to go
>to exodus , proper stuff and kite high stuff like that at the end of my
>party days, but never stopped listening to the music, just started going to
>a few local old skool events  (pubs , stuff like that) but never new
>anything big was still kicking off, can somone get  me info about getting
>back into it.
>
>many thanks
>----- Original Message -----
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>Yeah they had quite a few last year and had one NYE. They actually made some
>money NYE so have splashed out on more speakers etc. Wicked atmosphere
>usually too!!
>Hadone in the middle of a forest last year, that was proper wicked!!
>
>
> ill get my asse up and c em then i guess
>used to go all the time back up till they got busted
>was always on the week exodus wasnt
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From oldschool-return-82758-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Thu Feb 13 12:43:58 2003
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OOPS

Well the rarist tunes are the obscure white labels, stuff that came out of
ickle labels. No one knows what they are, they don't get picked up in 2nd
hand shops and find their way through the oldskool foodchain up to e-bay -
they get left behind when people scoure collections.

Of course when they come on e-bay for the first and last time they go for
?4.99 or no bids at all cause no one on e-bay knows what the fuck they are
so there are no bids.

In terms of how difficult they are to get hold of and find - nearly
impossible - these are the tunes that should be worth dollar - can't find
them for love nor money.

Good & Strong - Tronix
Prone12T - think its called the Frizidge EP (wicked tune)
AMP4 - wicked tune by Fozbee & Coozee
Be Lucky - DSL1

another good example is Contagious Label - only a few people knew about
this, but since been on the audio section of my website started to pick up
quite a bit of coverage and chat on the forums and now you could expect to
get ?15+ for one. Over a year ago would have been ?4.99.

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 13 February 2003 00:33
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS


SO what are your tunes that you think are rare and should be worth a load
on ebay?

Yes, ebay is funny. I had not been selling in awhile, but I always check
to see what's getting sold, going for big money, etc. I had a copy of
Pennywise(don't really dig the tune that much myself) that I wanted to
sell, but it was never the right time. So I put it up a few weeks ago
after not seeing one up for bid for sometime. I got 50 quid for it. Low
and behold, the very next day after my auction ended there was another
copy up for sale. Let's see if he can top 50, lol. I seriously doubt it.

cheers

On Wed, 12 Feb 2003 Bingoberty@aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 12/02/2003 23:45:18 GMT Standard Time,
> djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk writes:
>
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508180581
> >
> wHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF 3 OR FOUR PEOPLE SELLING THIS
> RECENTLY.MAYBE ITS NOT HALF AS RARE AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT.  I  HAVE SEVERAL
> TUNES WHICH ARE JUST AS RARE -EVEN MORE SO! YET THEY WOULDNT GET HALF AS
MUCH
> ON EBAY - ITS NOT LIKE ITS A KILLA TUNE IS IT?
>
> HYPE MAKES THE PRICES -NOT THE TUNE- SAD BUT TRUE
>
>


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS

> Well the rarist tunes are the obscure white labels, stuff that came out of
> ickle labels.

I agree!

> No one knows what they are, they don't get picked up in 2nd
> hand shops

They do when Im in there LOL I look at the cat of EVERY white I come across
when hunting...

> Good & Strong - Tronix

I was after this for ages, soon as I got mine loads of copies appeared!
I got one double for trading, but gave up after the first one LOL

> Prone12T - think its called the Frizidge EP (wicked tune)

Just for your info.... the label is Pro One.
Check the label on yours again mate, I think you'll find it says Fridge EP
;o)
You got any others? Ive got #8,16 & 17.

> another good example is Contagious Label - only a few people knew about
> this

A well known label IMO!
Especially the (Release) Dance in eden ones, TONS of people are after
those...
Also worth checking:
Rhythm Junior - Overdrive EP
Release - Spirit of space EP

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OOPS

>>Check the label on yours again mate, I think you'll find it says Fridge EP

it definitely says Frizidge EP - which is a much better name IMO - lol - its
written on in think black marker pen.

definitely got 16 cause that got another remix of the no.12 tune on it, and
a couple of others that I can't remember opf top of my head.

>>A well known label IMO!

it is now but 1yr ot 2 ago - no one seemed to have heard about em. Now
everyone is talking about em. I put it down to coverage on my website
:)..............

I see lots of tunes appear on wants list after they get put on Oldskool
Madness, the wants lists even include the same spelling mistakes I make -
lol.

If you ever see people asking for Satin Storm (first EP) they are actually
after Studio 2 - Dirty Games EP. They share the same cat no ST001, so
whenever Satin Storm (first EP) was listed on my site it pulled up the wrong
audio clip based on ST001 cat number playing the audio from Dirty Games.
I've seen quite a few people after Satin Storm (first EP) - lol

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
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To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS


> Well the rarist tunes are the obscure white labels, stuff that came out of
> ickle labels.

I agree!

> No one knows what they are, they don't get picked up in 2nd
> hand shops

They do when Im in there LOL I look at the cat of EVERY white I come across
when hunting...

> Good & Strong - Tronix

I was after this for ages, soon as I got mine loads of copies appeared!
I got one double for trading, but gave up after the first one LOL

> Prone12T - think its called the Frizidge EP (wicked tune)

Just for your info.... the label is Pro One.
Check the label on yours again mate, I think you'll find it says Fridge EP
;o)
You got any others? Ive got #8,16 & 17.

> another good example is Contagious Label - only a few people knew about
> this

A well known label IMO!
Especially the (Release) Dance in eden ones, TONS of people are after
those...
Also worth checking:
Rhythm Junior - Overdrive EP
Release - Spirit of space EP

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS

> it definitely says Frizidge EP - which is a much better name IMO - lol -
its
> written on in think black marker pen.

Sorry, I disagree! Have a look at the label again mate hehehe
Look closely at the text, its the way its been written, the vertical line on
the R is simply not connected very well to the other part!

> it is now but 1yr ot 2 ago - no one seemed to have heard about em. Now
> everyone is talking about em. I put it down to coverage on my website

I disagree again, as long as I can remember Ive seen people after Release -
Dance in eden. It was a huge tune back in the day and still is *very* saught
after now.
Post on b2vos and ask how people knew about Contagious, Im sure you will get
loads of people replying, most of em will mention the artist Release.
Just cause you didnt know about it till recently and then added it to your
site, doesnt mean others didnt know abou it too ;op

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) 2 Extreme Xtremity EP for sale

I had no idea this was so in demand..... at one point a few years ago I had
3 copies :-0

> -----Original Message-----
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> watch the stampede.....  always £70 minimum...
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties / oldskool DJs

will do thx
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>oldskool DJs
>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 09:31:44 GMT+00:00
>
>STS definately on the 1st!
>Mail me for any details you need!!
>Boing
>
>
> > ok been out of the loop for ...well...ummm... about ..10 years, used to 
>go
> >to exodus , proper stuff and kite high stuff like that at the end of my
> >party days, but never stopped listening to the music, just started going 
>to
> >a few local old skool events  (pubs , stuff like that) but never new
> >anything big was still kicking off, can somone get  me info about getting
> >back into it.
> >
> >many thanks
> >----- Original Message -----
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> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:05 PM
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> >oldskool DJs
> >
> >
> >Yeah they had quite a few last year and had one NYE. They actually made 
>some
> >money NYE so have splashed out on more speakers etc. Wicked atmosphere
> >usually too!!
> >Hadone in the middle of a forest last year, that was proper wicked!!
> >
> >
> > ill get my asse up and c em then i guess
> >used to go all the time back up till they got busted
> >was always on the week exodus wasnt
> >Morning crew !!!!
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OOPS

oh I haven't got the energy to argue.

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-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS


> it definitely says Frizidge EP - which is a much better name IMO - lol -
its
> written on in think black marker pen.

Sorry, I disagree! Have a look at the label again mate hehehe
Look closely at the text, its the way its been written, the vertical line on
the R is simply not connected very well to the other part!

> it is now but 1yr ot 2 ago - no one seemed to have heard about em. Now
> everyone is talking about em. I put it down to coverage on my website

I disagree again, as long as I can remember Ive seen people after Release -
Dance in eden. It was a huge tune back in the day and still is *very* saught
after now.
Post on b2vos and ask how people knew about Contagious, Im sure you will get
loads of people replying, most of em will mention the artist Release.
Just cause you didnt know about it till recently and then added it to your
site, doesnt mean others didnt know abou it too ;op

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OOPS

How about one of those celebrity boxing matches?

 --- Steve <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com> wrote: > oh I
haven't got the energy to argue.
> 
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 13 February 2003 13:35
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> 
> 
> > it definitely says Frizidge EP - which is a much better
> name IMO - lol -
> its
> > written on in think black marker pen.
> 
> Sorry, I disagree! Have a look at the label again mate
> hehehe
> Look closely at the text, its the way its been written,
> the vertical line on
> the R is simply not connected very well to the other part!
> 
> > it is now but 1yr ot 2 ago - no one seemed to have heard
> about em. Now
> > everyone is talking about em. I put it down to coverage
> on my website
> 
> I disagree again, as long as I can remember Ive seen
> people after Release -
> Dance in eden. It was a huge tune back in the day and
> still is *very* saught
> after now.
> Post on b2vos and ask how people knew about Contagious, Im
> sure you will get
> loads of people replying, most of em will mention the
> artist Release.
> Just cause you didnt know about it till recently and then
> added it to your
> site, doesnt mean others didnt know abou it too ;op
> 
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE DONNINGTON...

It would freak me out if someone else remebers this bloke....

Outside the small tent (the best bit!) There was a bloke standing on the 
trailer wearing a Luminous Yellow Suit Nuclear Suit (looking seriously 
altern8 like) and a Hat with corks all around it.  Fantastic Dancer - Didnt 
stop once all night 

Haha - those were the days - dressing up like a complete lunatic!!  I had 2ft 
dreadlocks back then!!  Anyone else remeber their nutty raving fashions?  
Come on....who wore the white gloves??  I remember when the scene started to 
break up there was a real snobbery within the House Scene, a lot of people 
used to sneer at "Cheesey Quavers".

It was all good fun to me though!!!!

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Subject: (oldschool) Re: Teccie question


> Well its not even that technical a question - I'm on digest and some peoples 
> mails look very strange when I read through....an example is below..
> 
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> As=20far=20as=20=20know=20they=20just=20stopped=20for=20the=20winter
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> but this went on for about 30 lines.
> 
> Also for certain poeple whenever they mention money I get something like 
> "A20" instead of 20quid or whatever.

It's MIME-encoded as quoted-printable: "=20" means a space,
"=A3" or whatever is a pound sign.

I'm not sure you can make it work, as the digest strips out the
original sender's mail headers ...  Would probably work for you
in non-digest mode.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE DONNINGTON...

Yep! I was there in a lime green kind of ethno t-shirt, and
some horrendous brown Fila trainers. My mate had printed his
own colour t-shirt with 'The Broco Trip' written underneath
a colour picture of the jolly green giant [don't ask me why]
and me other mate wore a mango-coloured E hat. We're all on
the video. 

Of the three of us, I'm the only one still into dance music.
One of them got heavily into world music and nowadays
scratches his goatee beard at Manu Chao concerts. The other
stays in listening to Elvis and Frank Sinatra Rat Pack
compilations. Oh well...

 --- Bingoberty@aol.com wrote: > It would freak me out if
someone else remebers this
> bloke....
> 
> Outside the small tent (the best bit!) There was a bloke
> standing on the 
> trailer wearing a Luminous Yellow Suit Nuclear Suit
> (looking seriously 
> altern8 like) and a Hat with corks all around it. 
> Fantastic Dancer - Didnt 
> stop once all night 
> 
> Haha - those were the days - dressing up like a complete
> lunatic!!  I had 2ft 
> dreadlocks back then!!  Anyone else remeber their nutty
> raving fashions?  
> Come on....who wore the white gloves??  I remember when
> the scene started to 
> break up there was a real snobbery within the House Scene,
> a lot of people 
> used to sneer at "Cheesey Quavers".
> 
> It was all good fun to me though!!!!
> 
> Gazza
> 
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My brother used to go to all the early 90's raves dressed up in a full white 
boiler suit with hood and breathing mask he looked like a  (PAINTER)

I only wore gloves once that was at a happy hardcore event cant member the 
name but was around 93 i guess everyone else had gloves on and i felt left 
out so i joined the glove crew.

Had a whistle in 92 was fun driving down high street on my kawasaki 125 
waitin till old Granny was next to me and blowing the fucker hard as i could 
hehehehhehe
cruel i know, never took one to rave after seeing a big Black man shove my 
mates whistle where the sun didn't shine !!
poor chap

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>Subject: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE DONNINGTON...
>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 10:44:51 EST
>
>It would freak me out if someone else remebers this bloke....
>
>Outside the small tent (the best bit!) There was a bloke standing on the
>trailer wearing a Luminous Yellow Suit Nuclear Suit (looking seriously
>altern8 like) and a Hat with corks all around it.  Fantastic Dancer - Didnt
>stop once all night
>
>Haha - those were the days - dressing up like a complete lunatic!!  I had 
>2ft
>dreadlocks back then!!  Anyone else remeber their nutty raving fashions?
>Come on....who wore the white gloves??  I remember when the scene started 
>to
>break up there was a real snobbery within the House Scene, a lot of people
>used to sneer at "Cheesey Quavers".
>
>It was all good fun to me though!!!!
>
>Gazza
>
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Right, its almost home time and I'm not back until tuesday so I'll be =
sure to deliver a full weekend report!!!=20

Off to Squash tonight to get absolutely hammered again *sigh*! Those in =
london tomorrow, i'm gonna be at Namco Station around lunchtime if =
anyone fancies a drink in the bar, I've gotta meeting with their =
entertainment division right before lunch as I'm doing their stage at =
the Leisure & Entertainment Expo at Earls Court from 25th to 27th =
February. Give us a buzz on 0797 707 6455.

Saturday I'm down to London again as I'm playing at some bar down there =
which a friend has hired out for his 25th birthday. Should be good.

And sunday is the big one. Straight from London I'm off to Leicester, =
and from 5pm check out breakpirates.com as it all kicks off with sunday =
night RAW, with destiny, deluxe, stoopid, skywalker and a whole host of =
other dropping the oldskool madness for steves 30th birthday bash. Check =
out the first play of what is sure to be a breakpirates oldskool anthem, =
"Oh baby I like it rawww", vocals courtesy of our very own Deluxe and =
Stoopid, oh, and a p0rnstar who evidently likes it raw up her ass.... =
anyway check it from 5pm onwards!

Monday I'm on my way home for the recovery session, and after another =
Japanese lesson in the evening I'm back in full swing tuesday morning - =
take care folks!

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> I'm not sure you can make it work, as the digest strips out the
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Yeah I think this is right - I had the same problem on the digest and could
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you had dread - lol - nice 1 - got any photo's from then

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bingoberty@aol.com [mailto:Bingoberty@aol.com]
Sent: 13 February 2003 15:45
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE
DONNINGTON...


It would freak me out if someone else remebers this bloke....

Outside the small tent (the best bit!) There was a bloke standing on the
trailer wearing a Luminous Yellow Suit Nuclear Suit (looking seriously
altern8 like) and a Hat with corks all around it.  Fantastic Dancer - Didnt
stop once all night

Haha - those were the days - dressing up like a complete lunatic!!  I had
2ft
dreadlocks back then!!  Anyone else remeber their nutty raving fashions?
Come on....who wore the white gloves??  I remember when the scene started to
break up there was a real snobbery within the House Scene, a lot of people
used to sneer at "Cheesey Quavers".

It was all good fun to me though!!!!

Gazza

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>>>Then we get saturation and copies go nice and cheap

i guess its good if you are prepared to wait... but i still reckon these
kind of tunes fetch top dollar every time.




-----Original Message-----
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> wHAT I MEANT TO SAY WAS THAT I HAVE HEARD OF 3 OR FOUR PEOPLE SELLING THIS
> RECENTLY.MAYBE ITS NOT HALF AS RARE AS PEOPLE MAKE OUT

They all come out the woodwork when a copy gets loads on ebay, it happens
everytime!
Then we get saturation and copies go nice and cheap :)

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its basically a html to plaintext conversion problem.

what e-mail program are you using?

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> Well its not even that technical a question - I'm on digest and some
peoples
> mails look very strange when I read through....an example is below..
>
>
> djhb@talk21.com
> Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> oldskool
> DJs
> Message-Id:
> <20030212141116.RZXT21028.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual>
>
> As=20far=20as=20=20know=20they=20just=20stopped=20for=20the=20winter
>
> but this went on for about 30 lines.
>
> Also for certain poeple whenever they mention money I get something like
> "A20" instead of 20quid or whatever. This always happens on Gazza mails
for
> example but other people are fine??
>
> What do I need to do to my laptop settings to stop this please (I use a
> Thinkpad).
>
> cheers
>
> Andrew
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its basically a html to plaintext conversion problem.

what e-mail program are you using?

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> Well its not even that technical a question - I'm on digest and some
peoples
> mails look very strange when I read through....an example is below..
>
>
> djhb@talk21.com
> Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) a bit harsh on Slipmatt / squat parties /
> oldskool
> DJs
> Message-Id:
> <20030212141116.RZXT21028.wmpmta04-app.mail-store.com@wmpmtavirtual>
>
> As=20far=20as=20=20know=20they=20just=20stopped=20for=20the=20winter
>
> but this went on for about 30 lines.
>
> Also for certain poeple whenever they mention money I get something like
> "A20" instead of 20quid or whatever. This always happens on Gazza mails
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> example but other people are fine??
>
> What do I need to do to my laptop settings to stop this please (I use a
> Thinkpad).
>
> cheers
>
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>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer

ok

here's one

http://www.geocities.com/anne_a_stasia/Anne01.jpg



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From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:32:32 +0000

yep fotos a great idea

http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=R8SUOM&key=LDW

clik a vote if ur not 2 busy
8o)

aving a comp with my mates

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>From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
>Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:58:10 -0000
>
>I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DJDeluxe" <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:09 PM
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
>
>
>Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing to
>help.... lol!!!!!!!
>
>DJ Deluxe
>
>www.kniteforce.co.uk
>
>Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Anne Aquino-Spicer
>   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:37 PM
>   Subject: (oldschool) london this summer
>
>
>   hello all
>
>   yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to london
>in
>   the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone could
>help.
>     looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that the
>   superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven is 
>and
>   thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to 
>check
>   out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great too...
>
>   Thanks
>   Anne
>
>   aim=shyann266
>   ----------------------------------------------
>   "The greatest thing
>   you'll ever learn
>   is just to love
>   and be loved in return."
>   --Moulin Rouge
>   ---------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer

Lol, I don't live in London..........

but if your ever in San Francisco, you can stay with me anytime. ;0)

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Anne Aquino-Spicer wrote:

> ok
>
> here's one
>
> http://www.geocities.com/anne_a_stasia/Anne01.jpg
>
>
>
> aim=shyann266
> ----------------------------------------------
> "The greatest thing
> you'll ever learn
> is just to love
> and be loved in return."
> --Moulin Rouge
> ---------------------------------------------
> Remove yourself from the stage if you'd rather not be caught up in the
> drama.
>
>
>
> From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
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> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:32:32 +0000
>
> yep fotos a great idea
>
> http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=R8SUOM&key=LDW
>
> clik a vote if ur not 2 busy
> 8o)
>
> aving a comp with my mates
>
> <br><br><br><html><DIV><A
> href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/">http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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>
>
>
> >From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:58:10 -0000
> >
> >I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DJDeluxe" <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:09 PM
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> >
> >
> >Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing to
> >help.... lol!!!!!!!
> >
> >DJ Deluxe
> >
> >www.kniteforce.co.uk
> >
> >Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Anne Aquino-Spicer
> >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >   Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:37 PM
> >   Subject: (oldschool) london this summer
> >
> >
> >   hello all
> >
> >   yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to london
> >in
> >   the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone could
> >help.
> >     looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that the
> >   superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven is
> >and
> >   thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to
> >check
> >   out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great too...
> >
> >   Thanks
> >   Anne
> >
> >   aim=shyann266
> >   ----------------------------------------------
> >   "The greatest thing
> >   you'll ever learn
> >   is just to love
> >   and be loved in return."
> >   --Moulin Rouge
> >   ---------------------------------------------
> >   Remove yourself from the stage if you'd rather not be caught up in the
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> >
> >
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Quoting Ryan Lee <rylee@cloudfactory.org>:

> but if your ever in San Francisco, you can stay with me anytime.


or in Austin...  ;)



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aww the link doesnt work 8o(

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>From: Ryan Lee <rylee@cloudfactory.org>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:20:36 -0800 (PST)
>
>Lol, I don't live in London..........
>
>but if your ever in San Francisco, you can stay with me anytime. ;0)
>
>On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Anne Aquino-Spicer wrote:
>
> > ok
> >
> > here's one
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/anne_a_stasia/Anne01.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > aim=shyann266
> > ----------------------------------------------
> > "The greatest thing
> > you'll ever learn
> > is just to love
> > and be loved in return."
> > --Moulin Rouge
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > Remove yourself from the stage if you'd rather not be caught up in the
> > drama.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Badger boy" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
> > Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 00:32:32 +0000
> >
> > yep fotos a great idea
> >
> > http://www.hotornot.com/r/?eid=R8SUOM&key=LDW
> >
> > clik a vote if ur not 2 busy
> > 8o)
> >
> > aving a comp with my mates
> >
> > <br><br><br><html><DIV><A
> > 
>href="http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/">http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wotisgoingon/</A>&nbsp;&nbsp;
> > tune ids&nbsp;n tune list</DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <DIV></DIV>
> > <P>&nbsp;</P>
> > <DIV></DIV></html>
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "Richard Wyatt" <rich@jungletekno.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> > >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 22:58:10 -0000
> > >
> > >I hear Windmills and Stringfellows are good for women!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "DJDeluxe" <theobaldap@kniteforce.co.uk>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:09 PM
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer
> > >
> > >
> > >Send some photo's to us and I'm sure you'll have lots of people willing 
>to
> > >help.... lol!!!!!!!
> > >
> > >DJ Deluxe
> > >
> > >www.kniteforce.co.uk
> > >
> > >Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Anne Aquino-Spicer
> > >   To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >   Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:37 PM
> > >   Subject: (oldschool) london this summer
> > >
> > >
> > >   hello all
> > >
> > >   yes i'm a lurker and i'm anne btw.  anyway i'm planning a trip to 
>london
> > >in
> > >   the summer with a couple of my girls and was wondering if anyone 
>could
> > >help.
> > >     looking for clubs and other interesting places to hit. i read that 
>the
> > >   superclubs aren't being attended as much. i only know where heaven 
>is
> > >and
> > >   thats the only club i went to the last time i was there.  i want to
> > >check
> > >   out more places this time. also cheap hotel ideas would be great 
>too...
> > >
> > >   Thanks
> > >   Anne
> > >
> > >   aim=shyann266
> > >   ----------------------------------------------
> > >   "The greatest thing
> > >   you'll ever learn
> > >   is just to love
> > >   and be loved in return."
> > >   --Moulin Rouge
> > >   ---------------------------------------------
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What a fucking tune this is. Going back in my box as we speak.


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on 13/2/03 8:46 PM, Steve at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com wrote:

> another good example is Contagious Label - only a few people knew about
> this, but since been on the audio section of my website started to pick up
> quite a bit of coverage and chat on the forums and now you could expect to
> get ?15+ for one. Over a year ago would have been ?4.99.

Yer right there about Contagious. Dance with Eden would be one of my top 20
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT: Have a wikky wikky weekend folks!

> Check out the first play of what is sure to be a breakpirates oldskool
anthem

And thats not going to be the only exclusive "tune" to be played that
night....... ;o)

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OOPS

> oh I haven't got the energy to argue.

Cause you know im right ;op

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> > it is now but 1yr ot 2 ago - no one seemed to have heard about em. Now
> > everyone is talking about em. I put it down to coverage on my website

Oh yeah, one last thing LOL
I had 2 Contagious releases on my audio achive when Kikit first went up,
about 3 years ago now hehehe

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> Come on....who wore the white gloves??

Not me!
I never had a dustmans jacket either!

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In a message dated 14/02/2003 00:40:55 GMT Standard Time,=20
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> Cause you know im right ;op

hehe - "and he's up against the ropes, its been a long battle but it looks=20
like Mad Dog Moody is well defeated here"

When i first started record trading just over a year go, someone blagged=20
every single contagious tune i had for =A35ish a time -so someone was clued=20=
up=20
back then!!

Gazza

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> hehe - "and he's up against the ropes, its been a long battle but it looks
like Mad Dog Moody is well defeated here"

Well, work got in the way for 8 hours before i could deliver that final one
inch punch LOL

Shooting off on a totally seperate line of fire, seems like the list is
picking up again with some decent discussions :)
Talking of which, wheres that pesky moderator Entropy hiding these days?!


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>What a fucking tune this is. Going back in my box as we speak.

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Cheers Ronan and Jay for the mails.

Apparently its to do with text coversions or something and its looks like 
there's nowt I can do due to me being on digest. Only some people's mails 
fuck up but for ref Gazza all your mails regarding record prices usually 
comes through as A20 - which I think is an outrageous price for a Trip to 
Trumpton.

That said happy valentines, its one of those truly marvelous days designed 
to break a blokes bank account as he is just getting over the Xmas /  New 
Year wallet drain. And, for me anyway, a day destined to give me jaw 
ache....

I hope your all aware of March the 20th - Steak and  Blowjob day. At the 
very minimum your misses has to wake you up with a blowjob, cook you a 
fillet steak (brandy, cream and peppercorn sauce) and give you another 
blowjob whilst your having your after dinner joint. At the very minimum. 
Bring it on.

cheers and thank fuck its POETS day (Piss Of Early Tommorrow Saturday)

Andrew

p.s. fave Valentines day poem:

Roses are Red
Violets are Twisted
Bend over Love
Your gonna get Fisted

apologies to any sensible minded peeps.



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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE DONNINGTON...


For dubious reasons only known to me for some bizarre reason I wore 
practically the same outfit to all the raves I went to between 89 - 91.

Remember C17's?....well think the jean equivalent but cut of at the shins. 
Think they were about 68inches or something. Bless Camden Town.

White sleeved top which is not too exciting and then for truly unknown 
reasons a large baggy jumper...kinds of mysterious mixture of green and blue 
with huge spliff burns in it. This jumper went everywhere with me and, even 
sadder, I still have it (and the jeans for that matter).

I thought it had come to a tragic demise when I lost it at a Spiral Tribe 
rave in Farringdon....18hrs later when things had calmed down I actually 
found it.....seriously trodden into the mud. I was soooo happy. 
Incidentally, and this is absolutely true, I found a pill in a haystack the 
same night.

Oh and a pair of those Fila's with the massive tongues and worn with 
practically no laces.

I have to say I was never into the white gloves, face masks, Altern 8 
Style....people spending the whole night rubbing vicks everywhere and 
sniffing poppers. I did have a whistle though.

cheers

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> Talking of which, wheres that pesky moderator Entropy hiding these days?!

Hasn't his computer bit the dust or something?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) london this summer

Or Sooke BC Canada ;) ;) ;)

On Thu, 13 Feb 2003, Lee Stoiser wrote:

> Quoting Ryan Lee <rylee@cloudfactory.org>:
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> > but if your ever in San Francisco, you can stay with me anytime.
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> or in Austin...  ;)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE DONNINGTON...

I want to know who sold the "teacosy" hat to the
bloke in the Hitman + Her @ Eclipse video.

Crime against fashion :)

says the man who used to wear a top with 
"Techno" written across the front and arms...mixed
up with some weird patterns.

Least I didn't end up with with the "fairy liquid"
...just add LSD top like my mate.

And I had a ponytail tied back in classic raver style.



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((c17's)) LMAO i had a pair of bright orange c17's brought em from Mash in 
1990 my mates said i looked like the Mothercare bouncer .
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>For dubious reasons only known to me for some bizarre reason I wore 
>practically the same outfit to all the raves I went to between 89 - 91.
>
>Remember C17's?....well think the jean equivalent but cut of at the shins. 
>Think they were about 68inches or something. Bless Camden Town.
>
>White sleeved top which is not too exciting and then for truly unknown 
>reasons a large baggy jumper...kinds of mysterious mixture of green and 
>blue with huge spliff burns in it. This jumper went everywhere with me and, 
>even sadder, I still have it (and the jeans for that matter).
>
>I thought it had come to a tragic demise when I lost it at a Spiral Tribe 
>rave in Farringdon....18hrs later when things had calmed down I actually 
>found it.....seriously trodden into the mud. I was soooo happy. 
>Incidentally, and this is absolutely true, I found a pill in a haystack the 
>same night.
>
>Oh and a pair of those Fila's with the massive tongues and worn with 
>practically no laces.
>
>I have to say I was never into the white gloves, face masks, Altern 8 
>Style....people spending the whole night rubbing vicks everywhere and 
>sniffing poppers. I did have a whistle though.
>
>cheers
>
>Andrew
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Subject: (oldschool) In de post

A lovely package sorting 3 off my wants list :)

Sounds Of Life - Release the bells - Cert 18
P&C - Kiss the ground - Whitelabel
TMR002

For those into their '91 Topbuzz tunes, P&C was cained by em!

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OOPS

I knew you'd say this "Cause you know im right ;op".... well I knew you'd
think I wasn't sure you actually spend the time to write it and e-mail it

u just can't let it lie - lol

You are right lots of people talking about it on B2VOS now - but only since
I put it on Oldskool madness - whether it was on Kitkit or not first is kind
of irrelevant seeing as difference between Oldskool Madness and Kitkit is
like the difference in attendance between a game at Barcelona and a Crawley
town.

There we go 'back off the ropes now'

and by the way my record collections bigger than yours ....... ner :)

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
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Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


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> hehe - "and he's up against the ropes, its been a long battle but it looks
like Mad Dog Moody is well defeated here"

Well, work got in the way for 8 hours before i could deliver that final one
inch punch LOL

Shooting off on a totally seperate line of fire, seems like the list is
picking up again with some decent discussions :)
Talking of which, wheres that pesky moderator Entropy hiding these days?!


Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Ok, we all know that I do a breakpirates show with Dest and Stoo on a =
sunday night, BUT....

THIS SUNDAY IS MY 30th BIRTHDAY!!!  So.....

I have got an extended 7hr show runnin from 5pm GMT to midnight and =
beyond.

If you can log onto www.breakpirates.com you will hear the usual =
shenanigans, BUT it will be a live broadcast from my house party!

DJ's on the night (Confirmed 100%)

DJ Deluxe (Birthday Boy)
DJ Destiny (Goon Burger)
DJ Stoopid (Disco Breakin!)
DJ Advance (Wooly Jumper Massive)
DJ Reflux (Erm.....)
DJ Skywalker (Chicken in a basket hardcore)

Not forgetting Bob Salts Mixing Tips....

So, grab yourself some beers, log on, kick back, and join in the fun of =
the Sunday Night RAW special!!!

Looking forward to your support.....

DJ Deluxe

www.kniteforce.co.uk

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I'm here on my grrl's laptop...keepin up, doin the moderation!  (We get 
SOOO much bullshit that I gotta reject these days)

anyhoot, i'm around!  Should have a new computer within a month at MOST.

but yeah, wassup!

hehehe

:)



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>> Talking of which, wheres that pesky moderator Entropy hiding these 
>> days?!
>
> Hasn't his computer bit the dust or something?
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>>
>>
>> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Same here !!   Wouldnt have been seen dead in all that garb !

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> > Come on....who wore the white gloves??
>
> Not me!
> I never had a dustmans jacket either!
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Same here !!   Wouldnt have been seen dead in all that garb !

no floppy hats either? So are you one of the snobs?  Dressing up all fked up 
was all part of the occasion as far as i was concerned! 

Each to their own i suppose - Though I reckon you should have given up trying 
to look normal given the fact that you were pulling E face Gurners all night. 
 I didnt give a screw if people didnt like what i wore - I wasnt there on a 
fashion mission.  just to go wild and dressing up was just part of the 
carnival type atmosphere

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2508436282

Hmmm is it worth it?

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Subject: (oldschool) Huge in the post today...

After a few weeks in transit, just got two nice big care packages from Mr.
Mailman today... thanks go out to Gary and Russ for these, there's some
absolute gems in here...

Aphrodite & DJ Phantasy - Open Your Mind bw You Take Me Up [Urban Wax]
Unknown Artist - Ibiza IRO47 promo
Unknown Artist - Ibiza IRO48 promo
Unknown Artist - Ibiza IR52 promo white label
Dub Technicians - Mindscape / Analogue Pressure [Rollin]
Future Sound Of Hardcore - Euphoria / Eden [Dee Jay]
Future Sound Of Hardcore Vol. 2 - Promised Land / Desire [Dee Jay]
MA1 - Movin In Motion EP [Formation]
Kid Andy & Nickle Bee - The Unexpected EP Vol. 1 [Boogie Beat]
Kev Bird - Kano / Sub Zero [Basement]
GT - Every Dog Has Its Day bw Jay-Cee - Smile [Ibiza]
Jay Cee - Storm / Calm [Ibiza]
Jack & Phil Vol. 3 - Don't Beg 4 Love [Basement]
Mutants - Power Tools Pt. 1 & 2 [Smooth]
Jack Horner - After Midnight bw Zero Gravity [Spectrum]
Flytronix - Shadowlandz / Hindsight [Whitehouse]
Fast Floor - Trippin On Sunshine / Timeless [Smooth]
Emma C. & Roach - Militarist / Infinity Remix [Eternal Bass]
Emma C. & Roach - Infinity / Subsonic Rider [Eternal Bass]
Ruff With The Smooth - Twisted Girl / Who's Loving Me [Basement]
2 Croozin' - Code Red / Life [Remix]
Mission Of 1 - Roughness EP [Break The Limits]
Subject 13 - Uniqe Beats EP [ULR]
Subject 13 - Uniqe Beats Remixes By Intense [ULR]
Reckless B - Rude FM EP feat Corrina [Spik & Span / Goldseal]
DJ Phantasy + DJ Gemini - The Remixes [Spooky Tunes]
Sound Of The Future - Fear Of The Future EP [Formation]
CMC - Greetings / Overtime [Ibiza]
ent.T - Dredman EP [Ibiza]
CMC - CMC EP [Limited E Edition CW02]
Bass Ballistics - BBC EP [Formation]
4 Wisement feat. Fats - On A Trip EP [Oddball, I think]
Mega City 2 - The Love You Give / Prisoner Cell Block E [Hear Dis]

Now, if I only had a pair of working turntables!  Those are coming later
this week... got a set of those Stanton STR8-100s with the straight
tonearms, and the speed control of +/- 25% with digital pitch locking...
nice stuff.  :)

Take care,
- Chris Purity


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) 999 pounds for trumpton?

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Mark wrote:
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508436282
>
> Hmmm is it worth it?

I see it for only 9.99, not 999.  Anyway, that's a hard house remake of
it.  I think I heard a short sample, and it didn't sound too awful.
Typically I like the stuff on that label -- they also did decent remakes
of Dominator and It's Just A Feeling, amongst others that I can't remember
right now.  The Don't Go remix was absolute shit, though.

Take care,
- Chris Purity


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) 999 pounds for trumpton?

the guy who makes the tunes is Olly from destiny records. they are
compleltely illegal rip-offs of the original tunes. I think he makes them
just to support himself. i know the shop is going through a real rough patch
at the moment.


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> On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Mark wrote:
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2508436282
> >
> > Hmmm is it worth it?
>
> I see it for only 9.99, not 999.  Anyway, that's a hard house remake of
> it.  I think I heard a short sample, and it didn't sound too awful.
> Typically I like the stuff on that label -- they also did decent remakes
> of Dominator and It's Just A Feeling, amongst others that I can't remember
> right now.  The Don't Go remix was absolute shit, though.
>
> Take care,
> - Chris Purity
>
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> difference between Oldskool Madness and Kitkit is
> like the difference in attendance between a game at Barcelona and a
Crawley
> town.

Add another 50,000 hits to your site and it will be nearly what mine was at
when I shut it down......

> and by the way my record collections bigger than yours ....... ner :)

Quality not quantity LOL

Anyway, the fact remains, Contageous was a known label years before Oldskool
Madness or Kikit put it online.....

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Oh dear.

Handbags!

DJ Deluxe

www.kniteforce.co.uk

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  > difference between Oldskool Madness and Kitkit is
  > like the difference in attendance between a game at Barcelona and a
  Crawley
  > town.

  Add another 50,000 hits to your site and it will be nearly what mine =
was at
  when I shut it down......

  > and by the way my record collections bigger than yours ....... ner =
:)

  Quality not quantity LOL

  Anyway, the fact remains, Contageous was a known label years before =
Oldskool
  Madness or Kikit put it online.....

  Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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:)

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Oh dear.

Handbags!

DJ Deluxe

www.kniteforce.co.uk

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  > difference between Oldskool Madness and Kitkit is
  > like the difference in attendance between a game at Barcelona and a
  Crawley
  > town.

  Add another 50,000 hits to your site and it will be nearly what mine was
at
  when I shut it down......

  > and by the way my record collections bigger than yours ....... ner :)

  Quality not quantity LOL

  Anyway, the fact remains, Contageous was a known label years before
Oldskool
  Madness or Kikit put it online.....

  Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) 999 pounds for trumpton?

On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Richard Wyatt wrote:
> the guy who makes the tunes is Olly from destiny records. they are
> compleltely illegal rip-offs of the original tunes. I think he makes them
> just to support himself. i know the shop is going through a real rough patch
> at the moment.

"completely illegal rip-offs of the original tunes"

I didn't have anything to say, really, I just liked the irony in that.  :)

Anyway, I think that he's also done some non-ripoff tunes for labels like
Nukleuz and stuff.  Not that they're the greatest, though... keep in mind
I haven't listened to any hard house in about two years now because it had
all gotten really boring and repetitive really quickly.

Take care,
- Chris Purity


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>>>P&C - Kiss the ground - Whitelabel



whats this one Destiny ??? Any good ??



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apperently its a mistake - should have been  =A39.99

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I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE POLICE REGARDING THE SCAM BEING RUN AT EBASS RECORDS WHO 
INFORM ME I MUST PERSUE THE MATTER THROUGH THE CIVIL COURTS. I AM GOING TO 
FILE A CIVIL ACTION AGAINST THEM, SO IF ANYONE WHO HAS NOT RECEIVED GOODS 
FROM THEM PLEASE LEAVE DETAILS OF YOUR UNRECEIVED ORDERS, INCLUDING AS MUCH 
DETAILS AS POSSIBLE -I.E DATES CHEQUES WERE CLEARED, OR ENQUIRY MAILS SENT 
ETC.. 

IF ANYONE HAS A FRIEND WHO IS A SOLICITOR WHO FANCIES AN EASY CASE, THEN THAT 
WOULD BE HELPFUL. 


EITHER LEAVE THE DETAILS ON THIS POST OR MAIL THEM TO <A HREF="mailto:BINGOBERTY@AOL.COM">BINGOBERTY@AOL.COM</A> 

I AM MOVING NEXT WEEK, SO ITS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A COUPLE OF 
WEEKS OR SO. ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO COLLATE ENOUGH INFORMATION. 

IF ANYONE KNOWS WHO RUNS EBASS, THEN PLEASE FORWARD THEM THIS EMAIL. BE 
WARNED EBASS - WE WILL ALSO BE SUEING FOR ALL LEGAL COSTS, AND COMPENSATION 
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> >>>P&C - Kiss the ground - Whitelabel
> 
> 
> 
> whats this one Destiny ??? Any good ??

Wicked late 91 tune that Topbuzz used to play regularly.
Theres a clip in the 91 section at www.hardcorewillneverdie.com

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Subject: (oldschool) In de post

HOHO -at long last!!

Tango Project  - =A32.50

hehehehehehe

Gazza

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Subject: (oldschool) Found today...

Just a couple on the off chance in a pawn shop ;o)
Wasnt expecting to find any tunes at-all, I was looking at an SL-1200 at the
time!

Lazarus - Strong - Kemet (KM018)
The Committee - Final conflict (Tango remix) - Creative Wax

Not bad for a quid each :)

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Subject: (oldschool) Grand Piano EP, Omer & Crooks

was someone after this? It's on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2506312470&category=


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Found today...

On Sat, 15 Feb 2003, DJ Destiny wrote:
> Just a couple on the off chance in a pawn shop ;o)
> Wasnt expecting to find any tunes at-all, I was looking at an SL-1200 at the
> time!
>
> Lazarus - Strong - Kemet (KM018)
> The Committee - Final conflict (Tango remix) - Creative Wax
>
> Not bad for a quid each :)

The Committee track is excellent, tho the Lazarus is one of the worse
releases on Kemet... but fer two who can complain?

Take care,
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Subject: (oldschool)Freedom of life

Does anyone know whats wrong with their site - I loved that site!!!!!

Gazza

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> The Committee track is excellent, tho the Lazarus is one of the worse
> releases on Kemet... but fer two who can complain?

I thought the a side wasnt too bad....
Anyway, for a quid, its filled a gap in the collection if nothing else!

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Subject: (oldschool) hi

Hiya guys!!! im back on the list eventually :)

I know some of you know me so hi, for everyone else...welcome to the list, I 
used to be on here with the email addy djrixta@hotmail.com  for years until 
a few months ago when my hotmail addy broke!

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Its about quality not Quantity Martyn. 

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Couln't resist after reading your banter with Moody.


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> > The Committee track is excellent, tho the Lazarus is one of the worse
> > releases on Kemet... but fer two who can complain?
> 
> I thought the a side wasnt too bad....
> Anyway, for a quid, its filled a gap in the collection if nothing else!
> 
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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> Its about quality not Quantity Martyn.
>
> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Couln't resist after reading your banter with Moody.

Ah, LOL yes, but I paid 2 quid for 2 tunes that turned out to be pretty good
IMO.
I brought them without listening to them first too....
Even the Kemet had turned out shit, it would of been 2 quid for Final
conflict remix which would of still been a bargain!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Found today...

Would have brought them myself, for 2 quid you cant go wrong.

Are you off to Sunday Sermon if so, see you down there.
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> > Its about quality not Quantity Martyn.
> >
> > LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Couln't resist after reading your banter with Moody.
>
> Ah, LOL yes, but I paid 2 quid for 2 tunes that turned out to be pretty
good
> IMO.
> I brought them without listening to them first too....
> Even the Kemet had turned out shit, it would of been 2 quid for Final
> conflict remix which would of still been a bargain!
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Sorry i cant offer any help but i really like your style.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE AND ALL THAT
Good luck

JoeMac






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>Subject: (oldschool)CIVIL ACTION AGAINST EBASS RECORDS
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:41:45 EST
>
>I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE POLICE REGARDING THE SCAM BEING RUN AT EBASS RECORDS 
>WHO
>INFORM ME I MUST PERSUE THE MATTER THROUGH THE CIVIL COURTS. I AM GOING TO
>FILE A CIVIL ACTION AGAINST THEM, SO IF ANYONE WHO HAS NOT RECEIVED GOODS
>FROM THEM PLEASE LEAVE DETAILS OF YOUR UNRECEIVED ORDERS, INCLUDING AS MUCH
>DETAILS AS POSSIBLE -I.E DATES CHEQUES WERE CLEARED, OR ENQUIRY MAILS SENT
>ETC..
>
>IF ANYONE HAS A FRIEND WHO IS A SOLICITOR WHO FANCIES AN EASY CASE, THEN 
>THAT
>WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>
>
>EITHER LEAVE THE DETAILS ON THIS POST OR MAIL THEM TO <A 
>HREF="mailto:BINGOBERTY@AOL.COM">BINGOBERTY@AOL.COM</A>
>
>I AM MOVING NEXT WEEK, SO ITS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A COUPLE OF
>WEEKS OR SO. ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO COLLATE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
>
>IF ANYONE KNOWS WHO RUNS EBASS, THEN PLEASE FORWARD THEM THIS EMAIL. BE
>WARNED EBASS - WE WILL ALSO BE SUEING FOR ALL LEGAL COSTS, AND COMPENSATION
>FOR HAVING TO RECOVER LOST FUNDS.
>
>REGARDS
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>
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fortunatly no bad experiences as i havnt used them, get busy on the oldskool 
list thou, think theres some solicitors on there, n more people who have 
been stung


>From: "joe mcbride" <jmf_music@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>
>Sorry i cant offer any help but i really like your style.
>POWER TO THE PEOPLE AND ALL THAT
>Good luck
>
>JoeMac
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: Bingoberty@aol.com
>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: (oldschool)CIVIL ACTION AGAINST EBASS RECORDS
>>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:41:45 EST
>>
>>I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE POLICE REGARDING THE SCAM BEING RUN AT EBASS RECORDS 
>>WHO
>>INFORM ME I MUST PERSUE THE MATTER THROUGH THE CIVIL COURTS. I AM GOING TO
>>FILE A CIVIL ACTION AGAINST THEM, SO IF ANYONE WHO HAS NOT RECEIVED GOODS
>>FROM THEM PLEASE LEAVE DETAILS OF YOUR UNRECEIVED ORDERS, INCLUDING AS 
>>MUCH
>>DETAILS AS POSSIBLE -I.E DATES CHEQUES WERE CLEARED, OR ENQUIRY MAILS SENT
>>ETC..
>>
>>IF ANYONE HAS A FRIEND WHO IS A SOLICITOR WHO FANCIES AN EASY CASE, THEN 
>>THAT
>>WOULD BE HELPFUL.
>>
>>
>>EITHER LEAVE THE DETAILS ON THIS POST OR MAIL THEM TO <A 
>>HREF="mailto:BINGOBERTY@AOL.COM">BINGOBERTY@AOL.COM</A>
>>
>>I AM MOVING NEXT WEEK, SO ITS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A COUPLE OF
>>WEEKS OR SO. ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO COLLATE ENOUGH INFORMATION.
>>
>>IF ANYONE KNOWS WHO RUNS EBASS, THEN PLEASE FORWARD THEM THIS EMAIL. BE
>>WARNED EBASS - WE WILL ALSO BE SUEING FOR ALL LEGAL COSTS, AND 
>>COMPENSATION
>>FOR HAVING TO RECOVER LOST FUNDS.
>>
>>REGARDS
>>GAZZA
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: (oldschool) (oldschoolUPDATE ON EBASS RECORDS

I JUST CALLED THIS OLI GEEZER WHO WAS PROVIDING THE WEBSPACE FOR EBASS.  HE 
WAS SOUND ABOUT IT ALL AND APPENTLY THE SITE IS RUN BY A BLOKE CALLED GARETH 
- THIS IS HIS MOBILE NO FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS THEIR TUNES BADLY : 07816 328126 


GARETH SPLIT UP WIV HIS MISSUS RECENTLY WHO WAS DEALING WITH EVERYTHING FOR 
HIM AND HAS PROBABLY GOT ALL OUR DOLLAR AS WELL!! 

I CALLED GARETH BUT GOT HIS ANSWERING MACHINE, LEFT THE DETAILS FO THE 
SITUATION 

IF SHE HAS RUN OFF WITH THE CASH, THEN I RECON ITS UP TO HIM TO GO AND GET IT 
OFF OF HER OR WE SHOP HER TO THE OLD BILL.  


GAZZA
    
    


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Need to store a series of 6mb files (anything from this size upwards needed) 
which are gonna get rinsed constantly!!!

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http://www.hyperreal.org/~dana/


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Subject: (oldschool) *** warning to all Ebay Users  ***

this was posted on the B2VOS forum & peeps probably wanna be aware of it...



Someone got the following email sent to them from "Ebay Billing" as High
Priority

Dear Ebay Member,

We at Ebay are sorry to inform you that we are having problems with the
billing information of your account. We would appreciate it if you would
visit our website [Ebay Billing Center] and fill out the proper information
that we are needing to keep you as an Ebay member.

If you think you have received this email as an error, please visit our
website and fill out the neccesary information. That way we can make sure
that everything is up to date! Again here is the link to our website. Ebay
Billing Center

Joe Watson
Ebay Billing Center
Rep ID. 32A


Thank you for your business.


If you receive a similar email DO NOT POST YOUR CREDIT CARD details

This is a massive scam, was big news in USA but I didn't know it had found
it's way over here

When you click the link in the email it takes to an offical-looking eBay
screen asking you to enter/confirm your credit card details. Check the link
address though, it starts http://

Any "Secure" pages are prefixed httpS://



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Subject: (oldschool)F-Projects

I mentioned a while back on this list that the only decent F-Project was no 
4.  Well that was a totally uneducated gobshite "know-it-all-but-dont-really" 
comment

Mega 2 - no 19 is Wikid!!!

thought i would get the first bit in before someone else :-)

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On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 Bingoberty@aol.com wrote:
> I mentioned a while back on this list that the only decent F-Project was no
> 4.  Well that was a totally uneducated gobshite "know-it-all-but-dont-really"
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> Mega 2 - no 19 is Wikid!!!
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> thought i would get the first bit in before someone else :-)

I stand by my previous belief that most of the F-Project releases are well
underrated tunes... everyone always bigs up Tango Project, but I have to
give props to Oz Beat & Return Of Oz Beat, The Storm, Dark Mark, Boomin
Tunes Vol. 1 and all the rest.

Take care,
- Chris Purity


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makes u wonder eh
bet the war still goes on
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What a weekend!!! I'll try and keep this brief (for once):

Thursday: Played squash after work, did my hand in, switched on tv and =
it had gone from a widescreen to being a 3:5 concaved screen, so called =
tv engineer. Tidied up around house.

Friday: Went to London, meeting at namco, spent most of day there with =
drinks and arcade machines on the house. Arranged days to be down at =
Earls Court doing the DDR. Went to Picadilly, standing there minding my =
own business and Penfold (Julian) taps me on the shoulder out of the =
blue!! Get home, knackered, have lovely chinese, relax.

Saturday: Town, chill, mid afternoon get gear together, down to =
Wimbledon, do a four hour set saturday night, good fun got loadsa people =
grooovin and wot-not. On way to after party chatted up two 45-ish year =
old lesbo's who'd been rolling around in the bushes like "d!rty =
b!tches"... After party at some house by wimbledon common lasted till =
5am and beyond (I fell asleep at 5) with dozens of random people.

Sunday: Up at 9, chatting session, breakfast and the likes, back to club =
to pick up rekkids and bits of equipment, in the car, back to Oxford at =
2.15pm. Unpacked car, swapped records in record boxes, mate comes round =
at 4, jump in car, up to Leicester.

Got to Leicester around 5.30, grabbed third maccy d's in as many days, =
met up with everyone, started broadcasting on breakpirates for steves =
30th birthday bash, grabbed the drinks and the party began. Very good =
birthday track created and played by Destiny. My set from 8 to around =
8.45/9 was ok, one dodgy mix but managed drop some new stuff and =
unreleased dubs etc. Fast forward to 9.30-10pm, getting VERY messy, i'm =
jabbering along on the mic alongisde stoopid, deluxe is propping himself =
up on the decks while mixing.. manic. Annoyed a fair few hardcore heads =
with our vocal antics. After broadcast finishing the party continued =
till around 4am i think. Lovely mad conversations on the sofa around =
3am...

Monday: Woke up around 8.15, teas and brekkie on the go. Had brekkie =
steve showed us a sample of his digital pr0n collection. Shouts to =
Reflex, Advance, Martyn Destiny, Steve Deluxe and his housemates and =
assorted guests, Lanky Si and the leicester street possee ;) Si gave me =
a lift back to leamington spa and got train rest of the way home to =
Bicester. Got home around 4 ish, chilled, then rented out Signs and My =
Little Eye from Blockbuster. My Little Eye is crap, Signs is wicked. =
Dropped into bed around midnight.

Anyway, brilliant weekend, in three days I think I'm off to Brighton for =
a mates 23rd, then straight up to sunday sermon in London for the =
raindance after party. Bring it on!!!

Dave

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Subject: (oldschool) Tune collection value/insurance

I really need to get my tunes insured I recon.... does anyone have a
specific policy just for their tunes?
I remember reading years ago you could get insurance they was just for DJs
etc.
Otherwise, how much to people have theirs covered for on their home
contents?
Im guessing a 2500 record collection is easily gonna be 10 quid a tune to
replace (on average) so is there really anyone that has such an amount
covered for 25000 grand?! :oO

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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25000 grand!!! Fuck me, 25 million quids worth of tunes??
Now that is a collection;-D



> I really need to get my tunes insured I recon.... does anyone have a
>specific policy just for their tunes?
>I remember reading years ago you could get insurance they was just for DJs
>etc.
>Otherwise, how much to people have theirs covered for on their home
>contents?
>Im guessing a 2500 record collection is easily gonna be 10 quid a tune to
>replace (on average) so is there really anyone that has such an amount
>covered for 25000 grand?! :oO
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>ICQ:     101942966
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>Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune collection value/insurance

> 25000 grand!!! Fuck me, 25 million quids worth of tunes??

LOL you know what i meant ;op
SO does anyone have their collection insured?!

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No but I have been thinking about it for ages, speshilly living too close to a gypsy site for my liking!


> > 25000 grand!!! Fuck me, 25 million quids worth of tunes??
>
>LOL you know what i meant ;op
>SO does anyone have their collection insured?!
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Subject: (oldschool) Greylox Call the cops

you hardly ever see this....does anyone know who made this???

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune collection value/insurance

I know you can get a policy for your records.
My mate is a loss adjuster and was telling me about a recent claim. But in 
typical joe style i can no longer remember (blame the weed)

Thinking another step further, If you ever had to make a claim, how many 
copies of finest illusion and seal's blame would you say you had.

Mmmmm food for thought.

JoeMac




>I really need to get my tunes insured I recon.... does anyone have a
>specific policy just for their tunes?
>I remember reading years ago you could get insurance they was just for DJs
>etc.
>Otherwise, how much to people have theirs covered for on their home
>contents?
>Im guessing a 2500 record collection is easily gonna be 10 quid a tune to
>replace (on average) so is there really anyone that has such an amount
>covered for 25000 grand?! :oO
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From oldschool-return-82841-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 18 16:54:48 2003
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tune collection value/insurance

You can stick the records on your home insurance just make sure you get
adequate cover for all the records and all your belongings.

Just for background expensive/valuable items always have to be listed
seperately on you cover and general you pay extra for them e.g. some fuck
off £2k laptop. Now as your record collection is not worth more as a
collection than as individual items you are fine to treat your records as
individual items and therefore don't need to quote them on the cover (unless
you had a single record worth over a grand or something) and don't need to
pay an obscene extra amount to cover them.

Btw this info came from an insurance broker who spoke to a couple of
companies for me. You need to check with your specific insurance company
cause not every insurer will necessarily treat the collection in the above
(but most should).

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I really need to get my tunes insured I recon.... does anyone have a
specific policy just for their tunes?
I remember reading years ago you could get insurance they was just for DJs
etc.
Otherwise, how much to people have theirs covered for on their home
contents?
Im guessing a 2500 record collection is easily gonna be 10 quid a tune to
replace (on average) so is there really anyone that has such an amount
covered for 25000 grand?! :oO

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: (oldschool) wanted: Rudeboy Project - Symphony Sounds

anyone sort me with this?

cheers

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) wanted: Rudeboy Project - Symphony Sounds

this always happens to me,just traded one yesterday.
;o(
zak.
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> anyone sort me with this?
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> cheers
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Greylox Call the cops

I have a tune that says Curley Greylox "Fools Rushin/Jungle Natty. I
belive it was the 12" that was released before this one. I have never seen
these around anywhere, back a few years ago Twist said that there were
less than 500 pressed of each. If this one goes for over fifty, I think
I'll have to sell mine.

cheers

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Greylox Call the cops

Call the cops is a bad tune - I don't know if its one worth selling......

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I have a tune that says Curley Greylox "Fools Rushin/Jungle Natty. I
belive it was the 12" that was released before this one. I have never seen
these around anywhere, back a few years ago Twist said that there were
less than 500 pressed of each. If this one goes for over fifty, I think
I'll have to sell mine.

cheers

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From oldschool-return-82846-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Feb 18 23:29:20 2003
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Subject: Re: (oldschool)DOES ANYBODY REMEBER AT FANTAZIA CASTLE DONNINGTON...

Nah.....i wasnt a snob, i couldnt afford to be back then !!!   ;o)    I just
didnt go for the white glove, floppy hat and luminous jacket garb !!     I
just never associated with it !!

each to his own innit !!

Alex

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> Same here !!   Wouldnt have been seen dead in all that garb !
>
> no floppy hats either? So are you one of the snobs?  Dressing up all fked
up
> was all part of the occasion as far as i was concerned!
>
> Each to their own i suppose - Though I reckon you should have given up
trying
> to look normal given the fact that you were pulling E face Gurners all
night.
>  I didnt give a screw if people didnt like what i wore - I wasnt there on
a
> fashion mission.  just to go wild and dressing up was just part of the
> carnival type atmosphere
>
> Gazza
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Subject: (oldschool) Andy Gugs

Andy mate

did you ever find out what that ratpack tune was that was on your wants list
from ages ago ?

The reason i ask is ive just got hold of a white label with the cat RPACK03
, its the one with the Blondie 'uh ooh' sample in it...........i wondered
wether this might be the tune your were trying to id ??

Ive stuck a clip of it here

http://www.top-tuna.com/tunes/ratpack.rm

Cheers

Alex




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Subject: (oldschool) East Anglia Old Skool / D&B Nite 28/02/03

anyone fancy a trip to the seaside???

FRIDAY The 28th February (9pm - 2am)

"DAMAGE" - Old Skool Party / D&B

Venue: Lixs nightclub, Sea Rd, Felixstowe, Suffolk (Near Ipswich)

DJ's confirmed!
Ellis Dee
Swann E
Devious Dame (me :o)
Damage INC
Swifty
and more...

BIG local after party to be announced on the nite!

round up the troops and contact me for guest list/directions etc..
I can email flyer to you individually but can't mail to the list for some=20
reason..

NOTE: this will not be another anthem bashing gig, my box alone contains=20
many 91-94 gems
venue has only a 500 capacity and is expected to sell out..=A36 to get in on=
=20
the door..

Hope To See Ya There

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It felt good marching the streets of Brussels much the same way I did twelve 
years ago!



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune collection value/insurance

I used to have musicians insurance with Endsleigh, to cover my keyboard and
stuff, but I can't remember if it covered my records. I think it covered the
Decks though... was about £25 a year too which isn't bad. Probably be a bit
more for a £25,000 record collection though!!!

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> > 25000 grand!!! Fuck me, 25 million quids worth of tunes??
>
> LOL you know what i meant ;op
> SO does anyone have their collection insured?!
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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My insurance company just asked me the other day to get a professional and=
=20
independent valuation of my collection. It had previously been insured by=20
them for 34,000 (for ~3500/4000 tunes) which was my estimated valuation=20
from 2 years ago,perhaps a bit over optimistic back then,but i reckon its=20
pretty much in line with todays prices if i had to replace my entire=20
collection using ebay.

When i rang them they advised me to itemize any records which are=20
especially valuable,and when i asked where to draw the line,they said=20
around the =A3100 mark

So.....

I'm looking for someone who has a registered business(dealing in oldskool=20
vinyl) and is in the London area who would be willing to give me a=20
valuation. I would pay of course(or sort out a tune or 2) for someone=20
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Subject: (oldschool) Unknown tune IDs

Time to dig em out again and hope someone can help! :)

http://www.fullrecycle.com/unknown.html

Someone PLEASE tell me what #34 is!!!!!

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id love to know 40 

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> Time to dig em out again and hope someone can help! :)
> 
> http://www.fullrecycle.com/unknown.html
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> Someone PLEASE tell me what #34 is!!!!!
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tune collection value/insurance

On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Leo S. wrote:
> When i rang them they advised me to itemize any records which are
> especially valuable,and when i asked where to draw the line,they said
> arou