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Subject: (oldschool) vague ID's req'd from Back 2 '89 

hi folks. can anyone please help me with these? (listed in order of
increasing vagueness!)

1) a dance remix of Adventures of Stevie V 'Dirty Cash' with a good
housey bassline/riff.=20

2) 135-140 breakbeat tune which samples Go by Moby then has a neat sorta
rushy stab riff then later has some Mentasm hoovers. also just heard
this in the old skool room at Slammin NYE, i think Unknown played it.

3) this one's reeeally vague, sorry - this track is basically a simple
trance line which changes key every coupla bars played over quite lively
breakbeats, then there's one or two short sections of biggish rave
stabs. no obvious samples or lyrics! awesome track though! :)

4) oh, and the Dirty Cash one reminds me - i didn't hear it at Back 2
'89 on Boxing Day but at a previous one i heard some remix of
K.C.Flightt 'Planet E', old skool house stylee.

any info would be muchly appreciated! ta.

Bart

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) vague ID's req'd from Back 2 '89 

2) 135-140 breakbeat tune which samples Go by Moby then has a neat sorta
rushy stab riff then later has some Mentasm hoovers. 

Could be....
Cutter - Rabbit City 001
Doc Scott - NHS (Or which ever the one is that samples Go!)

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Subject: (oldschool) name that tune! samples the film.......

Name that tune! Samples the film DUNE, something like, 'the spice must
flow'. From around 1991/2, any ideas, and does anyone have a sample or
mp3 ?

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Subject: (oldschool) are these any good?

Aiight,

Need to know if any of these are any good- (clips appreciated too!!)

PESHAY SWITCH DRUM & BASS SWITCH6

LEMON D FEEL IT DRUM & BASS 95 CONQUEROR OC7

JUNGLE WARRIORS JUNGLE JESUS JUNGLE STRICTLY UNDERGROUND STUR47

FLEX DREAMS DRUM & BASS IN TOUCH UG25

GIRO KID RAINFALL DRUM & BASS 10" KICKIN KICK49

I have been told that the strictly underground n kickin one may be well good 
but the peeps i asked based this on a hunch! lol

ne help appreciated!!


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>>GIRO KID RAINFALL DRUM & BASS 10" KICKIN KICK49

If this is the one I think it is, it's a fantastic (IMO) 94 tune.
I'll check when I get home and let you know.

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> Aiight,
>
> Need to know if any of these are any good- (clips appreciated too!!)
>
> PESHAY SWITCH DRUM & BASS SWITCH6
>
> LEMON D FEEL IT DRUM & BASS 95 CONQUEROR OC7
>
> JUNGLE WARRIORS JUNGLE JESUS JUNGLE STRICTLY UNDERGROUND STUR47
>
> FLEX DREAMS DRUM & BASS IN TOUCH UG25
>
> GIRO KID RAINFALL DRUM & BASS 10" KICKIN KICK49
>
> I have been told that the strictly underground n kickin one may be well
good
> but the peeps i asked based this on a hunch! lol
>
> ne help appreciated!!
>
>
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eon-spice
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Subject: (oldschool) name that tune! samples the film....... 

> Name that tune! Samples the film DUNE, something like, 'the spice must
> flow'. From around 1991/2, any ideas, and does anyone have a sample or
> mp3 ?
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> PESHAY SWITCH DRUM & BASS SWITCH6

Excellent tune IMO. If you're into funky dnb then get it.

-dave

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) are these any good?

oh and when i say are these any good i should probs tell people i dont like 
jazzy dnb i dont like jungle that has too much ragga vocals, on the other 
hand i love most other stuff 88-95! especially 93-94. so gyro kid is 
sounding good!!

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>Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 16:31:33 +0000
>
>Aiight,
>
>Need to know if any of these are any good- (clips appreciated too!!)
>
>PESHAY SWITCH DRUM & BASS SWITCH6
>
>LEMON D FEEL IT DRUM & BASS 95 CONQUEROR OC7
>
>JUNGLE WARRIORS JUNGLE JESUS JUNGLE STRICTLY UNDERGROUND STUR47
>
>FLEX DREAMS DRUM & BASS IN TOUCH UG25
>
>GIRO KID RAINFALL DRUM & BASS 10" KICKIN KICK49
>
>I have been told that the strictly underground n kickin one may be well 
>good but the peeps i asked based this on a hunch! lol
>
>ne help appreciated!!
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) are these any good?

yep, GiroKid was the one I thought it was, I'll encode this to MP3 in the
near future and post a link As although I love it I am sure it won't be to
everyone's tastes.
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> >>GIRO KID RAINFALL DRUM & BASS 10" KICKIN KICK49
>
> If this is the one I think it is, it's a fantastic (IMO) 94 tune.
> I'll check when I get home and let you know.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>
> > Aiight,
> >
> > Need to know if any of these are any good- (clips appreciated too!!)
> >
> > PESHAY SWITCH DRUM & BASS SWITCH6
> >
> > LEMON D FEEL IT DRUM & BASS 95 CONQUEROR OC7
> >
> > JUNGLE WARRIORS JUNGLE JESUS JUNGLE STRICTLY UNDERGROUND STUR47
> >
> > FLEX DREAMS DRUM & BASS IN TOUCH UG25
> >
> > GIRO KID RAINFALL DRUM & BASS 10" KICKIN KICK49
> >
> > I have been told that the strictly underground n kickin one may be well
> good
> > but the peeps i asked based this on a hunch! lol
> >
> > ne help appreciated!!
> >
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) need a Bay B Kane soundclip

i need to hear a soundclip of this tune - i forget what it is called, maybe 
Jungle Warriors 95 -anyway it is the one with the crazy breakdown with the 
backwards bassline

can anyone sort me with a clip?

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Subject: (oldschool) ot- but important to me - ICQ 

hi - some of you on the list were on my ICQ contact list - unfortunately i 
have lost all my previous contacts when my harddrive was reformatted

is there any way to recover those?

or do i have to re-add everyone?

honestly i dont even remember the whole list

anyway, anyone who wants to get back on my list (Leo, Maxx etc etc) , you 
know what to do

98984143

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ot- but important to me - ICQ 

yep, you can get them back easily
you need the icq database converter
which should be in your start menu
just click that, click fix database and it'll load up your contact list
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thanks - i tried that though and it didn't do anything

maybe i was using another vesion of ICQ before =(



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hi Leo - could you re-add me to your contact list for ICQ?

my ICQ got wiped

cheers

Liam

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Subject: (oldschool) a few tune IDs needed =)

a few 93-95 jungle tunes i've been trying to source - hopefully someone 
might recognize one or 2

cheers!

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown29.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown18.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown10b.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown21.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown30b.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown13.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown7.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown36.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown46.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown7.rm

http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown67.rm

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a few tune IDs needed =)

> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown66.rm

It's by Liftin Spirits on Ram records.
I think it's Flatliners remix; I'll check when I get home...


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> a few 93-95 jungle tunes i've been trying to source - hopefully someone 
> might recognize one or 2
> 
> cheers!
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown29.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown18.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown10b.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown21.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown30b.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown13.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown7.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown36.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown46.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown7.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown67.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown66.rm
> 
> http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown65.rm
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a few tune IDs needed =)

almost right! It was by Flatliner on RAM Records (RAMM 9R) track entitled
'No Boundaries'
I'm not sure if it is the remix or the original, I have both on vinyl and
have played them both, but they are very similar - if I had to bet on it I
would say remix.

Cheers, Matt


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> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown66.rm
>
> It's by Liftin Spirits on Ram records.
> I think it's Flatliners remix; I'll check when I get home...
>
>
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>
>
> > a few 93-95 jungle tunes i've been trying to source - hopefully someone
> > might recognize one or 2
> >
> > cheers!
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown29.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown18.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown10b.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown21.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown30b.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown13.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown7.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown36.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown46.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown7.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown67.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown66.rm
> >
> > http://www.bingobertys.com/Audio/ids/unknown65.rm
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) need a Bay B Kane soundclip

Bad bad bad tune from '95. Love it to bits, actaually there were repesses of
this floating about about 18 months ago. If no one sorts you out with clips
gete hold of me and i'll tray and upload an mp3 onto my webspace.


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> i need to hear a soundclip of this tune - i forget what it is called,
maybe
> Jungle Warriors 95 -anyway it is the one with the crazy breakdown with the
> backwards bassline
>
> can anyone sort me with a clip?
>
> cheers
>
> Liam
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool) Vague 92-93 ID

Allo

I had this old tape 92/93 sort of stuff. I remember this one track
that has the same break as from Blame - Music Takes You (2 Bad Mice
Remix). It has a bit where it plays that break then has a typical
rave "DJ!" vocal sample instead of the breakdown bit of the break,
then it plays the same break with the breakdown cut up a bit.

If anyone can ID this i'd be very grateful!

Chars
Kenz


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mentioned a description of this the other day.... i've encoded the real
audio clip now :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/briskunknown.rm


also, does anyone know if this is a remix of Scott Brown - Heavens Gate :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/vinylgroover.rm


i've picked up a copy on Evolution  & its not the same  -  is there another
version ?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) happy hardcore unknown

The first one is Fabulous Faber - Better Day (Brisk Mix) on Next Generation 
Records.

The second one SOUNDS like Scott Brown - Wheel of Fortune or something 
around that era, I can't remember but I know I used to play this particular 
tune a lot.

-Chris


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mentioned a description of this the other day.... i've encoded the real
audio clip now :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/briskunknown.rm


also, does anyone know if this is a remix of Scott Brown - Heavens Gate :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/vinylgroover.rm


i've picked up a copy on Evolution  & its not the same  -  is there another
version ?

cheers
Mike

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Subject: (oldschool) London Massve

Selectadisc on Berwick St have copies of Platinum Breakz 3 (incuding the
wakkad Here Come the Drumz 2000) on vinyl for £3.99!!! I haven't listened to
any of the other tracks, but it's a bargain just for that one tune.

ta ta!

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This track has to come from some artist back in the day. I believe the =
track name is Techno Vox .. not sure. Thanks!

http://www.watchout-inc.org/download/midi/techno_vox.mid

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>QUOTE:
>OLDSKOOL PARTY 1989-92 =B7 TRESOR Club =B7 BERLIN Germany
>
>WAYNE:
>Nice One Stefan did you go? and what was it like?

dear wayne,

thanks for your interest!

sure i did go - i was the organizer of this event!

the whole night was fantastic! we had more than 1400 visitors, more 
than any tresor club event had the last years!

this time we had more youngsters than ever who were celebrating the 
tunes and rave signals from 1989-1992 just as euphoric as us old 
veterans.

we hope to get some webspace with unlimited traffic soon and will 
then start to upload mixes to our website at 
http://www.technohouse.org/

next event will be on the 27th of december 2003, unfortunately the 
legendary tresor club will be closed by then but we do hope to be 
able to reactivate the legendary planet club for this one-off event. 
i hope to manage to have my old friend caspar come over for a 
hypnotist revival old skool live p.a. then.

will keep you posted at the end of the year!

love,
s t e f a n
-- 
=B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7=
 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7 =B7
http://www.technohouse.org/
b a c k   t o   b a s i c s
celebrating original technohouse 1989-92
+++ next date: 27-december-2003 +++

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Does anybody have a tracklisting for this awesome tape?

Thanks

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Subject: (oldschool) Tune Request

Anyone got an RA/MP3 of SOULS OF MISCHIEF - 93 Til Infinity?





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Subject: (oldschool) Ebay Postings

Some more vinyl posted up on ebay this weekend, take a look,

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=dj_dame_uk&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25

Happy New Year to you all,

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ivbe got an mp3 of that......im on soulseek now pukka

Paul Waight wrote:

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Subject: (oldschool) read .tar and .001/.002 files help

i dl some game and the files in the dir are all .001 and so
on....no executable or anyting like that...how do i run it??
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.tar files are linux-type zip files. .001 and .002 etc files are generally
extensions of original windows rar (and maybe linux tar?) files. You'll need
some kind of extracting program. However it does sound like you've
downloaded a linux game..

Dave


> i dl some game and the files in the dir are all .001 and so
> on....no executable or anyting like that...how do i run it??
> pls help........................
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) read .tar and .001/.002 files help

yeah i open the file in winrar and still number
extensions........................servers me right 4 getting something 4 free

David Curran wrote:

> .tar files are linux-type zip files. .001 and .002 etc files are generally
> extensions of original windows rar (and maybe linux tar?) files. You'll need
> some kind of extracting program. However it does sound like you've
> downloaded a linux game..
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> Dave
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http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/

maybe a program called HJ-Split, uses .001, .002 etc... you can split or
join using it.


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Subject: (oldschool) Some rare bits on ebay



Been a bit skint lately,so had to list some of my vinyl on ebay :

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yeah but games arent usually packed with hjsplit, theres no compression. 
001, 002 is rar, just double click the first file or open the directory 
within winrar and click the first file and hit extract. tar can be unpacked 
the same way using winace (winace.com) or maybe even winrar as well, not 
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>http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/
>
>maybe a program called HJ-Split, uses .001, .002 etc... you can split or
>join using it.
>
>
>Hardcore - U Know the Score
>http://www.hardscore.com
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http://www.walruslabs.co.uk/dnb060103.ram for the streaming massive
http://www.walruslabs.co.uk/dnb060103.rm for the download posse

01. Sonic & Silver - Rocket Launcher [Virus]
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) read .tar and .001/.002 files help

lol something is happening......so far so good...thanks man

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> yeah but games arent usually packed with hjsplit, theres no compression.
> 001, 002 is rar, just double click the first file or open the directory
> within winrar and click the first file and hit extract. tar can be unpacked
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> >
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 bastard!! missing the .014 file

pukka wrote:

> lol something is happening......so far so good...thanks man
>
> Stakker Humanoid wrote:
>
> > yeah but games arent usually packed with hjsplit, theres no compression.
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Hi,

Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago a direct connect hub, geared =
towards drum'n'bass but with some old school in there.

I've just installed DC on my PC, if whoever posted could let me know the =
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the 2 best hubs for Drum n Bass are:

1:     ukdnb.no-ip.org
2:    netnice.cjb.net

with this--->  http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download      
  u can connect both simultaneously

3:    (jazz)     maugrei.dynip.com

 e z on

   

> Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago a direct connect hub, geared towards 
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> I've just installed DC on my PC, if whoever posted could let me know the 
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nice 1 cheers :)
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> the 2 best hubs for Drum n Bass are:
>
> 1:     ukdnb.no-ip.org
> 2:    netnice.cjb.net
>
> with this--->  http://dcplusplus.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=download
>   u can connect both simultaneously
>
> 3:    (jazz)     maugrei.dynip.com
>
>  e z on
>
>
>
> > Someone mentioned a couple of weeks ago a direct connect hub, geared
towards
> > drum'n'bass but with some old school in there.
> >
> > I've just installed DC on my PC, if whoever posted could let me know the
> > hub so I can connect that'd be nice :)
> >
> > Cheers, Matt
> >
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Cos i really enjoyed it....Squirrel dropped Insomnia?????




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Subject: (oldschool) need Orca - Back to Jungle - soundclips

can anyone sort me with clips of the tunes on this EP?

cheers

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was it busy??? who were the mc's??

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Subject: (oldschool) Live broadcast now! (11:20am gmt)

I will be starting in 5 mins, playing dnb and oldskool for an hour or two...
This is a test more than anything, to see how it performs.
I will be in the Breakpirates chatroom if you want to join in.
channel #drum&bass on Efnet (efnet.demon.co.uk:6667)

Tune in with winamp (Control-L) and enter 217.35.150.212:8000

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just a quick thing to mention
if any of you listen have buffer probs can you let us know
as Dest is on a 56k poobite machine , im running the server from my ADSL
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sounds great on this end!

:)



On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 11:52:38 -0000, Sassy <sassy.uk@btopenworld.com> wrote:

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Recoil,

I can do you some clips if you like. Wicked EP I
reckon. Released late 93, all 4 tracks are nice:
mellow one minute, manic the next style tunes.

Matt B

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can anyone sort me with clips of the tunes on this
EP?cheersLiam
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top tunes imo! :)

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> Recoil,
> 
> I can do you some clips if you like. Wicked EP I
> reckon. Released late 93, all 4 tracks are nice:
> mellow one minute, manic the next style tunes.
> 
> Matt B
> 
> Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 14:37:49 -0500To:
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> Subject: need Orca - Back to Jungle - soundclips
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> can anyone sort me with clips of the tunes on this
> EP?cheersLiam
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Subject: (oldschool) Flex - In Touch

Argghhh! How gutting can eBay be sometimes? Like when
a tune you've been after for ages appears, you keep an
eye on it and then the bloody auction finishes and you
forget to place a bid!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29788&item=935403659

Don't suppose anyone has a copy of Cool Hand Flex
"Hold Back" on In Touch they might like to part with??

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Flex - In Touch

Jesus that is one shit price for one of 93's top darkcore tunes - got rinsed
back in the day - further evidence there is little taste or knowledge of
oldskool out there beyond the anthems.

if it helps Matt the tune was also released on De Underground by flex -
actually that is the first pressing. So you got double chance to pick it up
:)

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Argghhh! How gutting can eBay be sometimes? Like when
a tune you've been after for ages appears, you keep an
eye on it and then the bloody auction finishes and you
forget to place a bid!!!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29788&item=93540365
9

Don't suppose anyone has a copy of Cool Hand Flex
"Hold Back" on In Touch they might like to part with??

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flex - In Touch


i forgot to place a bid on the exact same tune matt :-( grrrr! cos i 
finished work late .... grrr grrrr indeed!



>From: Matt B <matt_bassline@yahoo.co.uk>
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>Argghhh! How gutting can eBay be sometimes? Like when
>a tune you've been after for ages appears, you keep an
>eye on it and then the bloody auction finishes and you
>forget to place a bid!!!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=29788&item=935403659
>
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>"Hold Back" on In Touch they might like to part with??
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>Argghhh! How gutting can eBay be sometimes? Like when
>a tune you've been after for ages appears, you keep an
>eye on it and then the bloody auction finishes and you
>forget to place a bid!!!


theres something called 'Bid Snipe' that you can get from Ebay, that ensures
you win the auction at the last minute i think  ???  Anyone used this at all
/ know anything about it ?


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Subject: (oldschool) Live tonight at 7PM GMT

Dont forget, its Sunday Night RAW!
www.breakpirates.com

Deluxe, Stoopid, and myself will be playing the hardcore and more....

(Tune in for the first play of Deluxe's and also my new tunes!)

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Subject: (oldschool) hypnotist track

hi,

just noticed in discription of the following auction
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D1597&item=3D93586630=
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the mentioning of a hypnotist track called "sleepless in seattle"

anybody know this track?  someone  even can provide an mp3 or real audio fil=
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you're quite right. i actually found it on a CD at home at the weekend!
it's on the Slipmatt mix from the last Slammin Vinyl Absolute Old Skool
album. it's 'Beyond Control' by Razor Boy & Mirror Boy which i see is
the flip to Rabbit City 1.=20

thanks!

Bart

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2) 135-140 breakbeat tune which samples Go by Moby then has a neat sorta
rushy stab riff then later has some Mentasm hoovers.=20

Could be....
Cutter - Rabbit City 001
Doc Scott - NHS (Or which ever the one is that samples Go!)

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Subject: (oldschool) My Ebay Auctions including Chucki tune

Some tunes for sale on ebay, including Chucki tune......

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=breakbe
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Subject: (oldschool) Im back

Hello everybody. After a years break traveling around australia Im back. 
Joy! its cold, and boring so I hope the old, you shut up, no you shut up, no 
you shut up stuff is still going on :)

On an old skool tip to keep it real, when I got home I was reasonably 
satisfied after a year without much tunage to find these on my doorstep:

2 Bad Mice - Bombscare - Shadow 14
Khaotic Chemistry - Space Cakes - Shadow 20
4 Hero - Cookin up yah brain (sonz of a loop da loop era remix) - Reinforced 
16r
Krome & Time - This sound is for the underground - Subbase 11
KLAM - The bouncer - tribal base promo
Kromozone - The Rush - Subbase 1 promo
Jonny Jungle - Jonny (94 mixes) - Subbase 44 promo
Sonz of a loop da loop era - far out - boogie times 5 promo
Force and evolution - perfect dreams remix - kf 19
D'Cruze - world within a world remix - subbase 17r promo
Run tings - back again remix - subbase 16r - promo
Sound of the future - The lighter remixes - formation 60r
Force and evolution - High on life - kf 24
Seduction and dougal - better day - impact 28
Future Primitive - Lift me up - KF 26
vibes & wishdokta remixes - were flying - kf 18r
Cru-l-t & 2 croozin' - timz change remix - remix special edition #1 10" - 
mint condition limited 500 with mint mailout as well, bonus :)
Force and Evolution - perfect dreams - KF16 - limited 500 press 10" clear 
vinyl

well, now all I need is some decks to play them on, bugger. Im off round my 
mates. tata

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testing.

dont think this is working.. If I am doing somehting wrong someone please 
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Subject: (oldschool) Hooray (Im Back)

Hello everybody. I just wrote a long email that got lost in the post :( ah 
well.

Im back from a year travelling round australia. Im not impressed with the 
weather (at all). But at least I can listen to decent tunage again, hurray. 
Got a stack of new tunes through the post which was nice. Quite a few sub 
base bits and KF including a couple of the 10" 500 press jobbys.

cant be arsed to type everything out again. same story, Anyone got any early 
suburban base promos? you will be handsomely rewarded.

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> Hello everybody. After a years break traveling around australia Im back.
> Joy! its cold, and boring so I hope the old, you shut up, no you shut up,
no
> you shut up stuff is still going on :)

shut the fuck up ;o)

hahaha, wow, cant believe its been a year, doesnt seem that long, welcome
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Welcome back....

> Hello everybody. I just wrote a long email that got lost in the post 

I got it, it wasnt lost ;o)

> including a couple of the 10" 500 press jobbys.

Unfortunatly, its not true LOL
Perfect dreams had a load repressed straight away!

> Anyone got any early 
> suburban base promos? you will be handsomely rewarded.

Which ones are you after? I have a fair few.

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Subject: (oldschool) Fantazia First Taste CD tracklisting?

Anyone got it?

Downloaded the bugger off Soulseek a while back, but all the tracks were
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one I remember offhand is Rock To The Max... little help?

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Subject: (oldschool) classic UK techno suggestions?

Hi folks,

Last night I was sketching out a tracklist for a mixtape with what would
best be described as a "classic UK techno anthems" theme and I wondered
if anyone had any nominations.

I'm looking at the dancier end of the spectrum rather than ambient
techno, but nothing as hard as gabber! Good examples would be Positive
Education, Rez, Chime - that sorta thing (UK tunes only but any year).

Any suggestions? The more the merrier. :) Thanks!

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i can get it for you if you want to wait till tomorrow,

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On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 SLloyd@comstor.co.uk wrote:
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It's all good, I'm not in any sort of hurry.  Thanks!  :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fantazia First Taste CD tracklisting?

i've got the mixed tape with 11 tracks,might be the same???.
side 1,
sunset regime-i've got the reel feel,
new age-operation acid,
ellis dee-rock to the max,
top buzz-world wide epedemic,
cybertronik-c.f.u(play dat),
orca-sonar.
side 2,
rat pack-looking through my window(dub mix),
p.s.i.-e.b.e.1,
4 reel-good for me,
nicky mac-feel my love,
p.s.i.-fantazia.
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> Anyone got it?
>
> Downloaded the bugger off Soulseek a while back, but all the tracks were
> unlabeled -- just (TRACK 1), (TRACK 2), so on and so forth... and the only
> one I remember offhand is Rock To The Max... little help?
>
> Thanks,
> - Chris Purity
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Fantazia The First Taste - Tack Listings

1 - Sunset Regime - Ive Got The Real Feel
2 - New Age - Operation Acid
3 - Ellis Dee - Rock To The Max
4 - Top Buzz - World Wide Epidemic
5 - Cybertronik - CFU (Play That)
6 - Orca - Sonar
7 - Ratpack - Looking Through My Window (Dub Mix)
8 - P.S.I - E-B-E-1
9  - 4 Reel - Good For Me
10 - Nicky Mac - Feel My Love
11 - P.S.I - Fantazia
12 - Orca - Aquabatics
13 - New Age - Give Me A Rush

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It's all good, I'm not in any sort of hurry.  Thanks!  :)

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Subject: (oldschool) Ebay Auctions - some rare tunage

Some tunes for sale on ebay

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On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 SLloyd@comstor.co.uk wrote:
> Fantazia The First Taste - Tack Listings

Cheers, nice one Sam, thanks a bunch!

Take care,
- Chris


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> > including a couple of the 10" 500 press jobbys.
>
>Unfortunatly, its not true LOL
>Perfect dreams had a load repressed straight away!

rats.. oh well, love the tune all the same :)

> > Anyone got any early
> > suburban base promos? you will be handsomely rewarded.
>
>Which ones are you after? I have a fair few.

hmmm, top of my head

m&m - feel this way or the remix
austin - I get high
krome and time - sounds for the undergroung orig
soaldle - further out
rachael wallace - tell me why and remix
run tings - back again orig
austin - austin ep
hype - shot in the dark
krome and time - slammer and remix
hype - the trooper

... and plenty more

what do you have?


(its great, I missed this list. bit quiet tho!?)

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> > > suburban base promos? 

Krane, i've got these spare at the moment all promo copies:

Kromozone - The Rush - Subbase 001 (white label both sides)
sons of a ... - Flowers in my garden LP - Subbase 019
sesamies treet - krome & time Rmx - Subbase 012R


after these at the moment :

Orca - Shining Bright - Lucky Spin (ORCA4) 
On Remand - Black Steel - Crack House - CH001 
Dreaming on the Rude FM EP on Spik & Span Recs 001
Erogenous Zone - General Zone/Zone Of Life - Trouble On Vinyl TOV12003 
Back to Detroit EP - Gonna be Alright - (CLOUD 2)
Tom & Jerry- We can be free - SHELL 02 
bitin' back - shes breaking up - fokus fk002 
4 Hero - Golden Age EP (Promo green vinyl copy) - Reinforced 1250
Dead Dread - Dread Bass - Moving Shadow 050 (promo copy only)

Hardcore - U Know the Score
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Subject: (oldschool) Re: classic UK techno suggestions?


Last night I was sketching out a tracklist for a mixtape with what would
best be described as a "classic UK techno anthems" theme and I wondered
if anyone had any nominations.

I'm looking at the dancier end of the spectrum rather than ambient
techno, but nothing as hard as gabber! Good examples would be Positive
Education, Rez, Chime - that sorta thing (UK tunes only but any year).

Any suggestions? The more the merrier. :) Thanks!

Classic UK techno - presuming this is strictly UK only...which makes things 
alot harder..

AFX - Analogue Bubblebath series / Digeridoo
Dave Clarke - Red series
Empiron - Narcotic Influence
Forgemasters - Track with no name (consider other early Warp...LFO, Tricky 
Disco etc...)
PAS - Planetary Funk Vol 1-5
Renegade Soundwave - The Phantom
Sulfurex - Point Break
Surgeon - Basicatonal (remake)
Thomas Schummacher - When I Rock
Vauvenage - Flange Music
Lost - Technofunk / Gonzo (more oldskoolish)
Meat Beat Manifesto - Radio Babylon (ditto)
Spiral Tribe - Spiral Tribe EP, Forward the Revolution / Sirius 23 etc..
Autechre - Cavity Job

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Subject: (oldschool) OT: Happy New Year!



Hope you all had a blinda

I spent NYE without booze in vegetarian Pushka in Rajastan - that said the 
bang lassies and smoke was very good. Absolutely no sodding oldskool all 
xmas/new year...although I did get quite into Quawali music (played by 
Sufist's....trancelike chanting on tablas).

Would recommend Udaipor and Ritikesh too....don't go to India in December 
though...feckin freezing.

cheers

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on 16/1/03 11:17 AM, andy gugs at g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:

> 
> Last night I was sketching out a tracklist for a mixtape with what would
> best be described as a "classic UK techno anthems" theme and I wondered
> if anyone had any nominations.
> 
> I'm looking at the dancier end of the spectrum rather than ambient
> techno, but nothing as hard as gabber! Good examples would be Positive
> Education, Rez, Chime - that sorta thing (UK tunes only but any year).
> 
> Any suggestions? The more the merrier. :) Thanks!
> 
> Classic UK techno - presuming this is strictly UK only...which makes things
> alot harder..
> 
> AFX - Analogue Bubblebath series / Digeridoo
> Dave Clarke - Red series
> Empiron - Narcotic Influence
> Forgemasters - Track with no name (consider other early Warp...LFO, Tricky
> Disco etc...)
> PAS - Planetary Funk Vol 1-5
> Renegade Soundwave - The Phantom
> Sulfurex - Point Break
> Surgeon - Basicatonal (remake)
> Thomas Schummacher - When I Rock
> Vauvenage - Flange Music
> Lost - Technofunk / Gonzo (more oldskoolish)
> Meat Beat Manifesto - Radio Babylon (ditto)
> Spiral Tribe - Spiral Tribe EP, Forward the Revolution / Sirius 23 etc..
> Autechre - Cavity Job
> 
> cheers
> 
> Andrew


RSW - Probably a Robbery EP
SOR - Homicide / Exorsist
Exorcist - The Burial / The Bee
Hypnotist - Hardcore you know the score EP

Although I am unaware if all are UK or not.

Cheers,
Colin Dee.


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Subject: (oldschool) Live broadcast today for the work/dole crews!

I will be playing live at 10:30AM GMT for an hour atleast, maybe two.
While I'm playing I will be in the Breakpirates chatroom.
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"Byron SELLARS" <sellarb@gaff.fsnet.co.uk>

Bought 60quid's worth of flyers of byron last year and they never
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gotta say he's a nice bloke, but.. the flyers never made it and ..
he's stopped responding to emails... so i guess he's dodgy.
if i hear back from him or suddenly receive an email or flyers
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take it easy. and good selling/trading.

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> I will be playing live at 10:30AM GMT for an hour atleast, maybe two.
> While I'm playing I will be in the Breakpirates chatroom.
> But to listen, you need to connect to 217.39.55.28:8000 in winamp.
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Broadcast has started early if anyone wants to tune in now

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fantazia First Taste CD tracklisting?

classic Tape, Where can you download it from? Mine was pinched (along with 
my car)a few years back.  ..

Tanya


>From: "dj hectic" <zak.newnham1@btinternet.com>
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>Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:17:53 -0000
>
>i've got the mixed tape with 11 tracks,might be the same???.
>side 1,
>sunset regime-i've got the reel feel,
>new age-operation acid,
>ellis dee-rock to the max,
>top buzz-world wide epedemic,
>cybertronik-c.f.u(play dat),
>orca-sonar.
>side 2,
>rat pack-looking through my window(dub mix),
>p.s.i.-e.b.e.1,
>4 reel-good for me,
>nicky mac-feel my love,
>p.s.i.-fantazia.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Purity Control" <purectrl@niceboots.com>
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>Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:07 PM
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>
>
> > Anyone got it?
> >
> > Downloaded the bugger off Soulseek a while back, but all the tracks were
> > unlabeled -- just (TRACK 1), (TRACK 2), so on and so forth... and the 
>only
> > one I remember offhand is Rock To The Max... little help?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Chris Purity
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Re: classic UK techno suggestions?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1597&item=935886680

this is pretty good ;-)

also take a look at the early Plastikman releases (Richie Hawtin)
er....

Fuse Dimension Intrusion Album is good

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 16 January 2003 03:17
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (oldschool) Re: classic UK techno suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> Last night I was sketching out a tracklist for a mixtape with what would
> best be described as a "classic UK techno anthems" theme and I wondered
> if anyone had any nominations.
> 
> I'm looking at the dancier end of the spectrum rather than ambient
> techno, but nothing as hard as gabber! Good examples would be Positive
> Education, Rez, Chime - that sorta thing (UK tunes only but any year).
> 
> Any suggestions? The more the merrier. :) Thanks!
> 
> Classic UK techno - presuming this is strictly UK only...which 
> makes things 
> alot harder..
> 
> AFX - Analogue Bubblebath series / Digeridoo
> Dave Clarke - Red series
> Empiron - Narcotic Influence
> Forgemasters - Track with no name (consider other early 
> Warp...LFO, Tricky 
> Disco etc...)
> PAS - Planetary Funk Vol 1-5
> Renegade Soundwave - The Phantom
> Sulfurex - Point Break
> Surgeon - Basicatonal (remake)
> Thomas Schummacher - When I Rock
> Vauvenage - Flange Music
> Lost - Technofunk / Gonzo (more oldskoolish)
> Meat Beat Manifesto - Radio Babylon (ditto)
> Spiral Tribe - Spiral Tribe EP, Forward the Revolution / Sirius 23 etc..
> Autechre - Cavity Job
> 
> cheers
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> Andrew
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Is Byron on this list then? Or is this an Ebay thing?

ddh

> "Byron SELLARS" <sellarb@gaff.fsnet.co.uk>
> 
> Bought 60quid's worth of flyers of byron last year 
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> made it.
> gotta say he's a nice bloke, but.. the flyers never 
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> he's stopped responding to emails... so i guess he's 
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> if i hear back from him or suddenly receive an email 
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> or whatever... i'll let you all know of course.
> 
> take it easy. and good selling/trading.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: classic UK techno suggestions?

"Such a good feeling" by whoever.

Got it as No. 1 track on the CD in the car at the 
moment. That piano just makes me cream my pants every 
time :)

ddh

> on 16/1/03 11:17 AM, andy gugs at 
g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Last night I was sketching out a tracklist for a 
mixtape with what would
> > best be described as a "classic UK techno anthems" 
theme and I wondered
> > if anyone had any nominations.
> > 
> > I'm looking at the dancier end of the spectrum 
rather than ambient
> > techno, but nothing as hard as gabber! Good 
examples would be Positive
> > Education, Rez, Chime - that sorta thing (UK tunes 
only but any year).
> > 
> > Any suggestions? The more the merrier. :) Thanks!
> > 
> > Classic UK techno - presuming this is strictly UK 
only...which makes things
> > alot harder..
> > 
> > AFX - Analogue Bubblebath series / Digeridoo
> > Dave Clarke - Red series
> > Empiron - Narcotic Influence
> > Forgemasters - Track with no name (consider other 
early Warp...LFO, Tricky
> > Disco etc...)
> > PAS - Planetary Funk Vol 1-5
> > Renegade Soundwave - The Phantom
> > Sulfurex - Point Break
> > Surgeon - Basicatonal (remake)
> > Thomas Schummacher - When I Rock
> > Vauvenage - Flange Music
> > Lost - Technofunk / Gonzo (more oldskoolish)
> > Meat Beat Manifesto - Radio Babylon (ditto)
> > Spiral Tribe - Spiral Tribe EP, Forward the 
Revolution / Sirius 23 etc..
> > Autechre - Cavity Job
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > Andrew
> 
> 
> RSW - Probably a Robbery EP
> SOR - Homicide / Exorsist
> Exorcist - The Burial / The Bee
> Hypnotist - Hardcore you know the score EP
> 
> Although I am unaware if all are UK or not.
> 
> Cheers,
> Colin Dee.
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Hey sounds cool, I'd love to connect but right now I 
got 59 Mp3 downloads in my Getright queue and being on 
56k it's gonna take long enough as it is ;)

ddh

> I will be playing live at 10:30AM GMT for an hour 
atleast, maybe two.
> While I'm playing I will be in the Breakpirates 
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> But to listen, you need to connect to 
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> Get your requests in now ;o)
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> > > > suburban base promos?
>
>Krane, i've got these spare at the moment all promo copies:
>
>Kromozone - The Rush - Subbase 001 (white label both sides)
>sons of a ... - Flowers in my garden LP - Subbase 019
>sesamies treet - krome & time Rmx - Subbase 012R

hmm, got all those :(

any others??

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Off an old (90/91) Producer tape...hardcore breakbeat

lyrics (and there subtle)

"who the fuck are you?"

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) be wary of.... Byron Sellars - dodgy trader

nah, he's not on the list but it's oldschool so i thought i'd mention
it.
anyway... he's mailed me today, as he's been away for a week
and he's gonna sort it out. so looking  better than it was yesterday ;>

will let yo uknow how it goez

ddh@primex.co.uk wrote:

> Is Byron on this list then? Or is this an Ebay thing?
>
> ddh
>
> > "Byron SELLARS" <sellarb@gaff.fsnet.co.uk>
> >
> > Bought 60quid's worth of flyers of byron last year
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> > made it.
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> > if i hear back from him or suddenly receive an email
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> >
> > take it easy. and good selling/trading.
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> Off an old (90/91) Producer tape...hardcore breakbeat
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> "who the fuck are you?"
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> cheers peeps
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> Andrew

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Yeah, that's it, Ibiza #10.

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Subject: (oldschool) Stop the new licensing bill

You may not be aware (I wasn't until today) of proposed changes to the
Public Entertainment Licencing laws, currently awaiting ratification by the
house of lords.

As most of you I'm sure know in the UK, under current legislation any venue
wishing to have live music events (including clubs) needs to obtain a PEL
from the
local authority.

If the new law comes in to effect, it will mean that not only will the venue
require a PEL, but also each and every performer - doesn't matter whether
you're a dj, guitarist, cellist or what...

The proposed penalties for peforming without are 6mths in jail or £20,000GBP
fine!!!!

please please please take a few minutes to check the links below for more
details including an online petition to sign.

This is nothing less than fascism from people who are supposed to be our
elected representatives, we MUST stop this law getting on to our statute
books.

if you thought the CJB was bad, it's nothing compared to this.

there is a demonstration being organised for Monday 27th Jan 2003, 13:00hrs
at parliament square, see ya there!

for more info on the bill:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200203/ldbills/001/2003001.htm



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hah hah! thanks dude! ;)


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log onto breakpirates.com

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DJ Deluxe
Now I'm playing my own stuff....

haha

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  hah hah! thanks dude! ;)


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	people!!!

What track did you *just* play? It was a newer sounding dnb tune "reaching
out to all crew, all massive"

It was right before that Kniteforce tune "the first thing they'll say is the
beat, the beat, the beat..."

I don't have mIRC, sorry...


Lee



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> If the new law comes in to effect, it will mean that not only will the ven=
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> you're a dj, guitarist, cellist or what...
>=20
> The proposed penalties for peforming without are 6mths in jail or=20
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> fine!!!!

OBVIOUSLY THIS IS THE BIT WHICH AFFECTS US MOST, BUT I CANT FIND ANYTHING IN=
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THE BILL RELATING TO IT - WHICH SECTION IS IT IN?

gazza

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> that would of been another KF tune.
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Subject: (oldschool) Trip to the moon - PNT 042RX - sound quality

Quick note to those of you who like the best sound quality!:-

Ive had  four trip to the moon kaleidescopiklimax in the last few months and 
noticed that the white label promo Ive got is a louder recording with less 
background noise than the labelled copies noticeable in the intro, & quiet 
bits - And it was nothing 2 do wiv condition cos all were ex/mint

Gazza

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Subject: (oldschool) Adsl at last!!!!!

After being without any net connection, i'm finally back up and running.
Will get a full revamp of my site with loads more audio to be added. Any
requests atall?


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Quoting Richard Wyatt <rich@jungletekno.com>:

> Any
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more bbc docs for us yanks!

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Im selling this tune (fokus FK 002)to someone and wondered if anyones seen 
what Its sold for on Ebay??

Cheers
Gazza
PS - I keep getting return mails trying to do an update for raptures discog  
- can anyone pass this one on?

Reinforced 100 is also a limited edition 2x10" (enforcers 9 AND 10), instead 
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Unsubdued - Reachin Out - KFA008

DJ Deluxe

www.kniteforce.co.uk

Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Lee Stoiser=20
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broadcastpeople!!!


  What track did you *just* play? It was a newer sounding dnb tune =
"reaching
  out to all crew, all massive"

  It was right before that Kniteforce tune "the first thing they'll say =
is the
  beat, the beat, the beat..."

  I don't have mIRC, sorry...


  Lee



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  > DJ Deluxe
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  > www.kniteforce.co.uk
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> Unsubdued - Reachin Out - KFA008
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cheers to you and Paul for answering!



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Everyone likes a happy ending ;)

ddh

> nah, he's not on the list but it's oldschool so i 
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> > > he's stopped responding to emails... so i guess 
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Subject: (oldschool) "Don't you feel the same"...

Anyone recognize this tune?  It starts off with diva samples gone
acapella, singing "Don't you feel the same, I said don't you feel the
same, I said don't you feel it heeeeey heeeey heeeeeeey", and after about
two repetitions the opening pianos from N'Joi "Anthem" go on top, and
finally the massive break kicks in.  There's some squelchy bleepy bits
towards the end, too.

Ring any bells?

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Can anyone help me with any more info on these tunes 

1) RS 92019 (cant find an R&S discog!!)
2) Energy / B 2 Bass (Equation??)
3) HW 006  (SR2/Hardware)
4) TT 01 ('91 ish)
5) BFRK 03 ???
6) DGP 001
7) GL 001
8) Future 2
9) BMT 06 (Ranski?? (Jungle))
10) PNT 051 is window in the sky.  Ive got a one sided test press -does 
anyone know which of the 11 or so mixes it is?
11) Does anyone know how to tell an original from press of tango and ratty 
tales from darkside

Thanks all - any help is greatly appreciated

Gazza

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hi Gazza - hope you're well

>Can anyone help me with any more info on these tunes

>>7) GL 001 - i have a feeling this is a Grand Larceny tune by School of 
>>Hard Knocks 94 styles - i may actually be after this one

>8) Future 2 - Future Vinyl # 2 -  mine is a blacklabel 4 tracker, but i 
>think Rapture's discog has info on it

>9) BMT 06 (Ranski?? (Jungle)) - this is Boom Tunes # 6 - Ranski - Dream of 
>Horns

cheers

Liam

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At 16:27 17/01/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Im selling this tune (fokus FK 002)to someone and wondered if anyones seen
>what Its sold for on Ebay??

I kept a record of the last one to go on ebay :

08-Dec-02 16:23:17 GMT
FOKUS RECS  - SHE'S BREAKING UP  near-mint condition
=A331.85


>PS - I keep getting return mails trying to do an update for raptures discog
>- can anyone pass this one on?

Yeah,i should be able to get it to him.=20
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At 19:46 17/01/03 -0500, you wrote:
>5) BFRK 03 ???

Thats "Beat Freak" records probably. First release was in 1990,a wicked 
tune called "Exterminator"! No idea what 3 in the catalog is...


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>(cant find an R&S discog!!)

here you go:

http://www.rsrecords.com/
http://ibelgique.ifrance.com/musika-kaverna/r&s.htm

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shes Breaking Up

i sold mine for £25,and i regret that day ;o(
still looking for another.
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> Im selling this tune (fokus FK 002)to someone and wondered if anyones seen
> what Its sold for on Ebay??
>
> Cheers
> Gazza
> PS - I keep getting return mails trying to do an update for raptures
discog
> - can anyone pass this one on?
>
> Reinforced 100 is also a limited edition 2x10" (enforcers 9 AND 10),
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> of 10 being on Rivet 12101
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Help with ID's

> 11) Does anyone know how to tell an original from press of tango and ratty
> tales from darkside

the represses have Nu Urbna music phone number at the bottom, otherwise
exactly the same.


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> Can anyone help me with any more info on these tunes
>
> 1) RS 92019 (cant find an R&S discog!!)
> 2) Energy / B 2 Bass (Equation??)
> 3) HW 006  (SR2/Hardware)
> 4) TT 01 ('91 ish)
> 5) BFRK 03 ???
> 6) DGP 001
> 7) GL 001
> 8) Future 2
> 9) BMT 06 (Ranski?? (Jungle))
> 10) PNT 051 is window in the sky.  Ive got a one sided test press -does
> anyone know which of the 11 or so mixes it is?
> 11) Does anyone know how to tell an original from press of tango and ratty
> tales from darkside
>
> Thanks all - any help is greatly appreciated
>
> Gazza
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Help with ID's

 DGP 001  -  Tronix - Double Zero EP,  its also known as "Nuclear
Productions"

FUTURE 2  - same here mate,  i think they were all promo black labels,  but
its on Future Vinyl basically !



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Can anyone help me with any more info on these tunes

1) RS 92019 (cant find an R&S discog!!)
2) Energy / B 2 Bass (Equation??)
3) HW 006  (SR2/Hardware)
4) TT 01 ('91 ish)
5) BFRK 03 ???
6) DGP 001
7) GL 001
8) Future 2
9) BMT 06 (Ranski?? (Jungle))
10) PNT 051 is window in the sky.  Ive got a one sided test press -does
anyone know which of the 11 or so mixes it is?
11) Does anyone know how to tell an original from press of tango and ratty
tales from darkside

Thanks all - any help is greatly appreciated

Gazza

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Subject: (oldschool) urgent - Flyte EP .. Come with it Badboy! 

how much does the FLyte EP (come with it badboy!) - DIS 001 - typically go 
for on E Bay? i have a spare that i might trade to someone but i dont know 
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i,ve not seen one for a while on e-bay,i think you would only get about
£10-£15(maybe more with r/a clip).
if its a good trade i would go with that.
zak.
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> how much does the FLyte EP (come with it badboy!) - DIS 001 - typically go
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> what it's worth these days
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> cheers
>
> Liam
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Thanks a lot everybody!! YOU'VE BEEN A GREAT HELP!!

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Subject: (oldschool) ebay sadness

extremely rare & sought after tune reduced to peanuts on ebay..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2500592696&category=297
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oh dear that is a terrible price for such a wicked tune!!!


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> extremely rare & sought after tune reduced to peanuts on ebay..
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2500592696&category=297
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> oh dear that is a terrible price for such a wicked tune!!!


not if your a buyer...

its about time the prices started to drop, noticed this happening quite a
bit lately.

F*ck the greedy sellers !!   =)



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> oh dear that is a terrible price for such a wicked tune!!!
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>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ebay sadness

Don't think it's greed, it all depends on the buyer at the time. He needed
some audio on there to boost the sale.


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> > oh dear that is a terrible price for such a wicked tune!!!
>
>
> not if your a buyer...
>
> its about time the prices started to drop, noticed this happening quite a
> bit lately.
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> F*ck the greedy sellers !!   =)
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>
>
> Hardcore - U Know the Score
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> > > extremely rare & sought after tune reduced to peanuts on ebay..
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> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ebay sadness

well you know what i mean, as far as im concerned the cheaper the tunes go
for the better.

Hardcore - U Know the Score
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> Don't think it's greed, it all depends on the buyer at the time. He needed
> some audio on there to boost the sale.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> > not if your a buyer...
> >
> > its about time the prices started to drop, noticed this happening quite
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> > bit lately.
> >
> > F*ck the greedy sellers !!   =)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hardcore - U Know the Score
> > http://www.hardscore.com
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> > >
> >
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Shit - im after that!!!!!!



>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2500592696&category=297
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just stuck some up over the last 48 hours:

http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=3Dju=
ngletekno&sort=3D3&page=3D1&rows=3D25&since=3D-1&showpics=3D1&stab=3D0

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ebay sadness

well if your gonna forget to tell everything that Whiplash is on there and
advertise the wank tune then what do you expect?

this isn't news - always been a golden seller rule - if its an well known
preferably an anthem then sell on E-Bay - if not then don't even think about
touching E-Bay - have to remember its like Camden Palace massive on E-Bay.

Steve
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Shit - im after that!!!!!!



>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2500592696&category=29
7
> > > > > 88


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i still think there are a lot of clued up people on there, it's just that
now they've got all the decent tunes they want, so you gotta stick audio
snippets up for the muppets that don't know their arse from their elbow!!!!



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> well if your gonna forget to tell everything that Whiplash is on there and
> advertise the wank tune then what do you expect?
>
> this isn't news - always been a golden seller rule - if its an well known
> preferably an anthem then sell on E-Bay - if not then don't even think
about
> touching E-Bay - have to remember its like Camden Palace massive on E-Bay.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
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> www.interface-radio.co.uk
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>
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> Shit - im after that!!!!!!
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> 7
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yeah some clued up people but u get disportioned sense of oldskool from
living on the list checking out B2VOS forum etc - u think everyone knows the
score - but really we r just a few oldskool headz the majority of peeps
don't know much beyond a Ratpack or Squirrel set - (not knocking it btw -
more peeps the better and everyone gotta start somewhere) - it is pretty
difficult to find out about hardcore after all.

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i still think there are a lot of clued up people on there, it's just that
now they've got all the decent tunes they want, so you gotta stick audio
snippets up for the muppets that don't know their arse from their elbow!!!!



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> well if your gonna forget to tell everything that Whiplash is on there and
> advertise the wank tune then what do you expect?
>
> this isn't news - always been a golden seller rule - if its an well known
> preferably an anthem then sell on E-Bay - if not then don't even think
about
> touching E-Bay - have to remember its like Camden Palace massive on E-Bay.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
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> 7
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Right, i attempted (lamely) to get this id'd on breakpirates last night, =
but as its so hard to describe i got laughed at. I've heard it only =
once, back in '93 on the tv show BPM, they were at goodtimes (i think) =
and Grooverider was playing alongside MC Lenny. Have never heard it =
since, except on the video recording of the show i had.

No vocals, dark basement stylee. Anyway, cos no-one could id it i =
recreated it in 2 mins using a music app.. so if anyone can id my =
attempt at recreating the main parts of what i heard, download it at =
http://uphoriak.usefulcontent.org/id.mp3 then that would be wicked!

I think dest might be onto the case with this but every little helps. =
For all i know, it might turn out to be an unreleased dubplate :(

Cheers,
Dave

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ebay sadness

Shite...one of my most wanted tunes and the first week in ages I don't 
bother looking at ebay...that just adds insult to injury!

>extremely rare & sought after tune reduced to peanuts on ebay..
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2500592696&category=297
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Subject: (oldschool) Fw: Collection value

I thought this might make you laugh......

(Scroll to the bottom and read upwards)

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
ICQ:     101942966
Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)



----- Original Message -----
From: DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Classic Trax <sales@classictrax.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: Collection value


> Im not dreaming, i know for a fact there are certain dealers and sellers
out
> there that just love to buy collections cheap and then sell them
> individually for what can only be described as rediculous prices......
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Classic Trax <sales@classictrax.co.uk>
> To: DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 8:51 AM
> Subject: Re: Collection value
>
>
> I never made no offer, but no one is gonna give you the figures youre
> dreaming about. Not to worry 8)
> Regards
> www.classictrax.co.uk
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: DJ Destiny
>   To: Classic Trax
>   Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 1:26 AM
>   Subject: Re: Collection value
>
>
>   I hadnt really thought about prices and values till after I had sent you
> the
>   mail.
>   Please dont try to make me feel guity cause I wont take some shit offer
> for
>   my records!
>
>   Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>   ICQ:     101942966
>   Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>   Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
>
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Classic Trax <sales@classictrax.co.uk>
>   To: DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
>   Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 6:06 PM
>   Subject: Re: Collection value
>
>
>   So why mail me in the first place Martyn? You have the prices you want
in
>   your head already
>
>   Regards
>   Lee
>   www.classictrax.co.uk
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: DJ Destiny
>     To: Classic Trax
>     Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 11:56 AM
>     Subject: Re: Collection value
>
>
>     After thinking about things, I am aware of their current market value.
>     Id be looking at wanting to get atleast 5 quid a tune, so at over 10
>   grand,
>     im sure you wouldnt be interested!
>     If I sold only 100 tunes at 10 quid id be getting a grand straight
away,
> I
>     think thats the way Im going to have to go...
>
>     Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>     ICQ:     101942966
>     Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>     Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Classic Trax <sales@classictrax.co.uk>
>     To: DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
>     Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:18 PM
>     Subject: Re: Collection value
>
>
>     Please give me a call Martyn to discuss if you want to sell
>     Regards
>     Lee
>     www.classictrax.co.uk
>
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: DJ Destiny
>       To: Classictrax
>       Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:18 PM
>       Subject: Collection value
>
>
>       Hi  mate, long time.....
>
>       Due to various reasons, Im thinking of selling my whole collection!
>       Would you be interested? There is over 2500 tunes, shit loads of
>     rare/highly
>       wanted ones etc etc
>       A 90% accurate list is here: www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/collection
>       Its just a loose idea at the moment to see what sort of cash it
would
>     raise,
>       so if you make an offer, please dont be offended if I change my
mind!
>
>       Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>       ICQ:     101942966
>       Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>       Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)
>


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ID?!

Doesnt ring any bells from that, sorry!

Have u still got a copy of the show?
Might be easier to rip a section from that mate.
Good attemt at recreating it, but sometimes its the original samples that
give away the id too, rather than just the riff/tune/melody (If you know
what I mean!)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ID?!

> Doesnt ring any bells from that, sorry!

OK no worries, I'm getting the feeling this is gonna be the hardest id in
the world... ever!

> Have u still got a copy of the show? Might be easier to rip a section from
that mate.

I have the box, last night on BP when i was mentioning it i looked in the
case... and it was empty - ARGHHH!!! Its a 3 hr vid of LOADS of oldskool
trax from when i used to record bpm every week, has top buzz, neil vas, acen
etc etc on it. I'll have another look for it later (PRAYS it hasn't been
taped over by accident)

> Good attemt at recreating it, but sometimes its the original samples that
> give away the id too, rather than just the riff/tune/melody (If you know
> what I mean!)

The main riff sample is pretty close, but though the riff is similar/the
same the bass sample is wrong, the actual tune's bass was more kind of "echo
through a tube" like.

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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

OK so its time for one of those periodic rants about how its just not like
it used to be...

I was out at Trouble on Vinyl on Saturday night and damn was the music
dull... the highlight of the night was when Andy C came on and dropped 'The
Nine' as his first tune... I kid you not -- a tune well over 4 years old and
people get paid good money for this?  They don't even mix the bloody records
any more.. just play them one after the other with an occasional spin-back
and continuous shouting over the top from some unintelligible MC - it's not
like anyone even shouts for a rewind or flashes a lighter up... why would
they for such boring tracks? The DJ's just pull a re-load regardless to drag
the set out a bit and hide the fact that they only brought 8 records with
them and they all sound exactly the same... I reckon most of them just can't
mix at all probably.

OK so I did leave by about 2.30 and it might have got better later on but I
just couldn't bear any more.  I must admit I don't get out as much as I used
to but I do like to have a go now and then to convince myself I'm not past
it... but this has just made me want to stay home all the more.  It seems
like all the fun,  inventiveness and class has been completely eradicated
from about 99% of new DnB - the beats have no complexity any more and (to
come to the subject of this mail) sound just like bad rock music, but
stressing the 2 and 4 beat rather than the 1 and 3.  Some of the breakdowns
on Friday really were worthy of Iron Maiden, and there were in fact people
headbanging and pogo-ing(!), which I found pretty disturbing... what
happened to a dip in the hip, a smile and a little shuffle left-right?
Don't answer that - I Know - it disappeared somewhere with my misspent
youth.

Of course, there are odd good, fresh, inventive tracks that make me think
it'll all be OK, but these are getting fewer and further between.  The most
recent one that's really done it for me being "Do You Remember Me" by SUV
(OK, let's be honest here... I only found out what it was called the other
day on Destiny's show and had only heard it once or twice before then a few
months back... but it's a fantastic track -- nice one Dest!).  In general
though the mellower/jazzier stuff is pretty lame and never quite kicks
enough (yeah some of the Brazilian stuff is OK, but overrated I reckon and
still lame really), and the "heavier" stuff is no better than metal.

I don't know where this is going... guess I should just go to some old
school nights instead or something... my suspicion is that the kids have
left DnB to the boring old men and a lot of the most interesting new stuff
is happening in the speed garage (or whatever they call it these days)
scene... I just can't bear to take myself down to the nights to find out -
full of kids and awful music I imagine.  Can anyone report on this?

Cheers now,
Kev.


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Subject: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

I was listening to the radio the other day (a speed garage station... don't
remember which one) and the DJ claimed to be playing a purely "old school"
set.  Now this is not old school as we think of it... he was playing all
speed garage tracks from about 2-4 years ago.  Now to me this qualifies as
simply "old", but not "old school".  The DJ did talk about this a bit and I
got the impression that in his view if the track has a reasonably
straightforward 4-4 garage/house beat as opposed to some new crazy UK Garage
beat then it's "old school" house.

Anyway... I just thought I'd share that with you... funny how things change
though.

...later on the same station there was a shout out to the "more mature
listeners" of the show.  It turned out he just meant anyone over 18 and so
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: classic UK techno suggestions?


XON - 'mood set ep' on Network (Rob Gordon + Richard H kirk)

all the early Warp and Network releases
everything by Unique 3  (get thier lp)

everthing that involves Rob Gordon (black night), Richard H kirk, Wynston 
Hazel, Unique 3, Nighmares on wax, LFO, Guy called gerald, 808 state..etc..
Haven't got time to list individual tunes sorry..

cheers
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Subject: (oldschool) Helicopter vs. Ms Dynamite

Noticed this on e-bay...
WTF??
http://www.angelfire.com/music5/insanevinyl/dynocpoter.mp3


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> what a crock of total and shutter fucking shit that is!
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> 
> 
> Noticed this on e-bay...
> WTF??
> http://www.angelfire.com/music5/insanevinyl/dynocpoter.mp3
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

that's why i stopped listenening to it back in 99. Everything sounds exactly
the same now. Gotta blame Bad Company for that really. Everyone jumped on
the same tip and haven't managed to get over it yet.



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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...


> OK so its time for one of those periodic rants about how its just not like
> it used to be...
>
> I was out at Trouble on Vinyl on Saturday night and damn was the music
> dull... the highlight of the night was when Andy C came on and dropped
'The
> Nine' as his first tune... I kid you not -- a tune well over 4 years old
and
> people get paid good money for this?  They don't even mix the bloody
records
> any more.. just play them one after the other with an occasional spin-back
> and continuous shouting over the top from some unintelligible MC - it's
not
> like anyone even shouts for a rewind or flashes a lighter up... why would
> they for such boring tracks? The DJ's just pull a re-load regardless to
drag
> the set out a bit and hide the fact that they only brought 8 records with
> them and they all sound exactly the same... I reckon most of them just
can't
> mix at all probably.
>
> OK so I did leave by about 2.30 and it might have got better later on but
I
> just couldn't bear any more.  I must admit I don't get out as much as I
used
> to but I do like to have a go now and then to convince myself I'm not past
> it... but this has just made me want to stay home all the more.  It seems
> like all the fun,  inventiveness and class has been completely eradicated
> from about 99% of new DnB - the beats have no complexity any more and (to
> come to the subject of this mail) sound just like bad rock music, but
> stressing the 2 and 4 beat rather than the 1 and 3.  Some of the
breakdowns
> on Friday really were worthy of Iron Maiden, and there were in fact people
> headbanging and pogo-ing(!), which I found pretty disturbing... what
> happened to a dip in the hip, a smile and a little shuffle left-right?
> Don't answer that - I Know - it disappeared somewhere with my misspent
> youth.
>
> Of course, there are odd good, fresh, inventive tracks that make me think
> it'll all be OK, but these are getting fewer and further between.  The
most
> recent one that's really done it for me being "Do You Remember Me" by SUV
> (OK, let's be honest here... I only found out what it was called the other
> day on Destiny's show and had only heard it once or twice before then a
few
> months back... but it's a fantastic track -- nice one Dest!).  In general
> though the mellower/jazzier stuff is pretty lame and never quite kicks
> enough (yeah some of the Brazilian stuff is OK, but overrated I reckon and
> still lame really), and the "heavier" stuff is no better than metal.
>
> I don't know where this is going... guess I should just go to some old
> school nights instead or something... my suspicion is that the kids have
> left DnB to the boring old men and a lot of the most interesting new stuff
> is happening in the speed garage (or whatever they call it these days)
> scene... I just can't bear to take myself down to the nights to find out -
> full of kids and awful music I imagine.  Can anyone report on this?
>
> Cheers now,
> Kev.
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

There's loads of good dnb these days IMO. The 1997-1999 tech
step is finished, though admittedly that style is the
majority of what you'd hear at a TOV night.

I love my 1990-1994 oldskool, but I've been buying dnb again
since summer 2001 because plenty of it I think is awesome!!!
Just like back in the day - you have to look hard and not be
diverted by hype. 

Try Twisted Individual's lp and sampler ep if you want a
variety of drum patterns, rolling basslines and wierd
noises/vocals.

 --- Richard Wyatt <rich@jungletekno.com> wrote: > that's
why i stopped listenening to it back in 99.
> Everything sounds exactly
> the same now. Gotta blame Bad Company for that really.
> Everyone jumped on
> the same tip and haven't managed to get over it yet.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kev Keenoy" <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>
> To: "Old School" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:59 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock
> these days...
> 
> 
> > OK so its time for one of those periodic rants about how
> its just not like
> > it used to be...
> >
> > I was out at Trouble on Vinyl on Saturday night and damn
> was the music
> > dull... the highlight of the night was when Andy C came
> on and dropped
> 'The
> > Nine' as his first tune... I kid you not -- a tune well
> over 4 years old
> and
> > people get paid good money for this?  They don't even
> mix the bloody
> records
> > any more.. just play them one after the other with an
> occasional spin-back
> > and continuous shouting over the top from some
> unintelligible MC - it's
> not
> > like anyone even shouts for a rewind or flashes a
> lighter up... why would
> > they for such boring tracks? The DJ's just pull a
> re-load regardless to
> drag
> > the set out a bit and hide the fact that they only
> brought 8 records with
> > them and they all sound exactly the same... I reckon
> most of them just
> can't
> > mix at all probably.
> >
> > OK so I did leave by about 2.30 and it might have got
> better later on but
> I
> > just couldn't bear any more.  I must admit I don't get
> out as much as I
> used
> > to but I do like to have a go now and then to convince
> myself I'm not past
> > it... but this has just made me want to stay home all
> the more.  It seems
> > like all the fun,  inventiveness and class has been
> completely eradicated
> > from about 99% of new DnB - the beats have no complexity
> any more and (to
> > come to the subject of this mail) sound just like bad
> rock music, but
> > stressing the 2 and 4 beat rather than the 1 and 3. 
> Some of the
> breakdowns
> > on Friday really were worthy of Iron Maiden, and there
> were in fact people
> > headbanging and pogo-ing(!), which I found pretty
> disturbing... what
> > happened to a dip in the hip, a smile and a little
> shuffle left-right?
> > Don't answer that - I Know - it disappeared somewhere
> with my misspent
> > youth.
> >
> > Of course, there are odd good, fresh, inventive tracks
> that make me think
> > it'll all be OK, but these are getting fewer and further
> between.  The
> most
> > recent one that's really done it for me being "Do You
> Remember Me" by SUV
> > (OK, let's be honest here... I only found out what it
> was called the other
> > day on Destiny's show and had only heard it once or
> twice before then a
> few
> > months back... but it's a fantastic track -- nice one
> Dest!).  In general
> > though the mellower/jazzier stuff is pretty lame and
> never quite kicks
> > enough (yeah some of the Brazilian stuff is OK, but
> overrated I reckon and
> > still lame really), and the "heavier" stuff is no better
> than metal.
> >
> > I don't know where this is going... guess I should just
> go to some old
> > school nights instead or something... my suspicion is
> that the kids have
> > left DnB to the boring old men and a lot of the most
> interesting new stuff
> > is happening in the speed garage (or whatever they call
> it these days)
> > scene... I just can't bear to take myself down to the
> nights to find out -
> > full of kids and awful music I imagine.  Can anyone
> report on this?
> >
> > Cheers now,
> > Kev.
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

I know what you mean about D&B to an extent, although I think there are some
very innovative producers out there, who just aren't getting air time from
the big DJ's.

As far as the innovative people having gone to garage, I think is going way
too far!! Even if the D&B scene is in a dip, it far outranks the boring
repetitiveness of most of todays garage. I personally have got more
interested in the new-oldskool/breakbeat hardcore (whatever you want to call
it), that people like Luna-C are playing. To me this is a fresh sound and it
works well.


----- Original Message -----
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To: "Old School" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...


> OK so its time for one of those periodic rants about how its just not like
> it used to be...
>
> I was out at Trouble on Vinyl on Saturday night and damn was the music
> dull... the highlight of the night was when Andy C came on and dropped
'The
> Nine' as his first tune... I kid you not -- a tune well over 4 years old
and
> people get paid good money for this?  They don't even mix the bloody
records
> any more.. just play them one after the other with an occasional spin-back
> and continuous shouting over the top from some unintelligible MC - it's
not
> like anyone even shouts for a rewind or flashes a lighter up... why would
> they for such boring tracks? The DJ's just pull a re-load regardless to
drag
> the set out a bit and hide the fact that they only brought 8 records with
> them and they all sound exactly the same... I reckon most of them just
can't
> mix at all probably.
>
> OK so I did leave by about 2.30 and it might have got better later on but
I
> just couldn't bear any more.  I must admit I don't get out as much as I
used
> to but I do like to have a go now and then to convince myself I'm not past
> it... but this has just made me want to stay home all the more.  It seems
> like all the fun,  inventiveness and class has been completely eradicated
> from about 99% of new DnB - the beats have no complexity any more and (to
> come to the subject of this mail) sound just like bad rock music, but
> stressing the 2 and 4 beat rather than the 1 and 3.  Some of the
breakdowns
> on Friday really were worthy of Iron Maiden, and there were in fact people
> headbanging and pogo-ing(!), which I found pretty disturbing... what
> happened to a dip in the hip, a smile and a little shuffle left-right?
> Don't answer that - I Know - it disappeared somewhere with my misspent
> youth.
>
> Of course, there are odd good, fresh, inventive tracks that make me think
> it'll all be OK, but these are getting fewer and further between.  The
most
> recent one that's really done it for me being "Do You Remember Me" by SUV
> (OK, let's be honest here... I only found out what it was called the other
> day on Destiny's show and had only heard it once or twice before then a
few
> months back... but it's a fantastic track -- nice one Dest!).  In general
> though the mellower/jazzier stuff is pretty lame and never quite kicks
> enough (yeah some of the Brazilian stuff is OK, but overrated I reckon and
> still lame really), and the "heavier" stuff is no better than metal.
>
> I don't know where this is going... guess I should just go to some old
> school nights instead or something... my suspicion is that the kids have
> left DnB to the boring old men and a lot of the most interesting new stuff
> is happening in the speed garage (or whatever they call it these days)
> scene... I just can't bear to take myself down to the nights to find out -
> full of kids and awful music I imagine.  Can anyone report on this?
>
> Cheers now,
> Kev.
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

As far as I'm concerned there are different levels of old skool. Anything
more than about 3 or 4 years old I would class as old skool, but obviously
there's a big difference between a '96 hardcore set and a '92 hardcore set
(even though they're both old skool).


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> I was listening to the radio the other day (a speed garage station...
don't
> remember which one) and the DJ claimed to be playing a purely "old school"
> set.  Now this is not old school as we think of it... he was playing all
> speed garage tracks from about 2-4 years ago.  Now to me this qualifies as
> simply "old", but not "old school".  The DJ did talk about this a bit and
I
> got the impression that in his view if the track has a reasonably
> straightforward 4-4 garage/house beat as opposed to some new crazy UK
Garage
> beat then it's "old school" house.
>
> Anyway... I just thought I'd share that with you... funny how things
change
> though.
>
> ...later on the same station there was a shout out to the "more mature
> listeners" of the show.  It turned out he just meant anyone over 18 and so
> old enough to get into the rave they were advertising.
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

I would say that Old Skool ranges from anything 1988 to 1994.

Anything after is too "young" to be called "Old Skool"

I wouldnt call 96 hardcore "old Skool" , To me thats Happy hardcore, or just 
hardcore as its now called

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

all this pigeon holing does my head in. So 96 happy hardcore is now called
hardcore??? so what's 92 hardcore refered to now as?



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> I would say that Old Skool ranges from anything 1988 to 1994.
>
> Anything after is too "young" to be called "Old Skool"
>
> I wouldnt call 96 hardcore "old Skool" , To me thats Happy hardcore, or
just
> hardcore as its now called
>
> Gazza
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ebay sadness

>>yeah some clued up people but u get disportioned sense of oldskool from
>>living on the list checking out B2VOS forum etc

thats true,  it is still a minority who know their shit

i honestly reckon that if you advertise anything on ebay and label it
"Ratpack anthem" somehwere in the title - you can add £20 on top straight
away.  Sad but true. Stil, what ya gonna do if you are a seller ?

>>>have to remember its like Camden Palace massive on E-Bay.

hmm..i wouldn't compare it to that,  you do get some pretty obscure tunes
down at Camden as well as the normal anthems -  i've heard Clynophobic EP
and all sorts of other stuff down there.

>>if its an well known
> preferably an anthem then sell on E-Bay - if not then don't even think
about
> touching E-Bay

It depends what you class as "anthem" as well,  shit like Renegade Snares,
Awesome 3, Trumpton, Raving I'm Raving... always go for  good money on ebay,
fair enough.   But, what about the obscurities like Tango Project, Double
Visions, Old Skool Ting  - look at the kind of money they went for.  At the
end of the day, its all down to what one person is prepared to pay.  You
know what its like when you are on a mission to get one particular
tune....!!!

>>, so you gotta stick audio
>>snippets up for the muppets that don't know their arse from their
elbow!!!!

damn right,  bit of audio never hurt anyway



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

>>all this pigeon holing does my head in. So 96 happy hardcore is now called
>>hardcore??? so what's 92 hardcore refered to now as?


haha, its a classic isn't it!

everyones got a different opinion i guess..  i mean, take "Energy Flash" for
example - to me, thats "hardcore". Yeah, i guess we generally refer to it as
"old skool" these days,  but its still a "hardcore" tune as far as i'm
concerned - blew my mind hearing that at early parties.




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> I would say that Old Skool ranges from anything 1988 to 1994.
>
> Anything after is too "young" to be called "Old Skool"
>
> I wouldnt call 96 hardcore "old Skool" , To me thats Happy hardcore, or
just
> hardcore as its now called
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: classic UK techno suggestions?

thanks for your suggestions last week, peeps. :)

Andy - lots of tunes, several i had already listed (Narcotic Influence,
Digeridoo and Red 2/3 are essential!) plus a few i'll check out.

Colin - hadn't thought of Shades of Rhythm, will check their album. i
recall the flip to Sound Of Eden being quite Belgiumy technoish too.

Eddie - unsure about using Richie Hawtin's stuff on a UK-only tape as he
was born in Britain but then the tricky beggar moved to Canada when he
was like 10 years old!! :) hmmm, might just use his UK releases like the
Warp album and single.=20

DDH - dunno about Such A Good Feeling but it does remind me of Such A
Feeling by Bizarre Inc, might use the dub mix of their Playing With
Knives...

it's great to have some fresh ideas and confirmation of some of mine
anyways. ta muchly!

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to be honest i stopped listening already end of 96... have a look at 
"remarc's remix of physics and tricks - crazy tings (crazy bunch of 
badoboys... the new funky fresh flavour like a bat out of hell and it goes 
like this:...) - for a comment, fair play if it's a bit big headed... 

same goes for trance as well...

it's the ingredients... "fuck superstar DJ's" and all. resurrect the 
underground scene ;)




> that's why i stopped listenening to it back in 99. Everything sounds exactly
> the same now. Gotta blame Bad Company for that really. Everyone jumped on
> the same tip and haven't managed to get over it yet.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

Happy Hardcore inherited the name "Hardcore" along with "Happy Hardcore" 
simply by being current Hardcore at the time.  Well thats my perception 
anyhow

Yeah - Pigeon Holing as you call it does my head in too  I suppose its useful 
in some ways -ie if your trying to describe a tune! -Everybodys got a 
different opinion though you occasonally get people who insist that they know 
how to classify music perfectly. 

All I will say is that if there is a pigeon hole for every type of music, 
then theres a  shitload of pigeon holes.  There are just too many tunes which 
dont fit - If you check Ebay out for example, by far, one of the largest 
sections is "OTHER" 

Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the Chopper? I call that Old 
skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle? 

I went to some geezers house to buy a load of "Hardcore" and got there it was 
Diana Ross and Sheena Easton - I nearly pissed myself.  Yet everyone else in 
the room seem to believe it was "Hardcore"??????????? WTF??

I could really get into this thread, cos its something thats always fked me 
off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with what is only a point of 
view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic

Gazza

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

Trying to explain to someone you like stuff that goes "boom, boom, eak eak,
tweety tweety, chipmonk, chipmonk" is a long and fruitless process pretty
much doomed to failure. Thank god we created laungage to communicate :)

On the other hand some of the pigeon holing that goes on is people
disappearing up their own arses.

Listening to current music there is huge cross over - for a while now Hard
House / Trance and Hardcore (HHC) has been mixing and blending quite a bit.
Been hearing quite a few D&B tunes with Hard House trance type riffs over
breakbeat as well recently too which has suprised me big style.

Clubbing scene is definitely on the wane - much down to over exposure and
changes in drug culture (not to worry just all the bandwagoners jumping
ship - a good thing). If some of the segregation between scenes breaks down
as a result of a shrinkking market that will be a really good thing - people
will start to appreciate all sorts of good music - bit like it was 88-91
when anything seemed to go before all the seperate scenes got started
proper.

Sorry the post doesn't really follow the thread but its where my brain
wandered to.

Steve
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Happy Hardcore inherited the name "Hardcore" along with "Happy Hardcore"
simply by being current Hardcore at the time.  Well thats my perception
anyhow

Yeah - Pigeon Holing as you call it does my head in too  I suppose its
useful
in some ways -ie if your trying to describe a tune! -Everybodys got a
different opinion though you occasonally get people who insist that they
know
how to classify music perfectly.

All I will say is that if there is a pigeon hole for every type of music,
then theres a  shitload of pigeon holes.  There are just too many tunes
which
dont fit - If you check Ebay out for example, by far, one of the largest
sections is "OTHER"

Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the Chopper? I call that Old
skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle?

I went to some geezers house to buy a load of "Hardcore" and got there it
was
Diana Ross and Sheena Easton - I nearly pissed myself.  Yet everyone else in
the room seem to believe it was "Hardcore"??????????? WTF??

I could really get into this thread, cos its something thats always fked me
off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with what is only a point of
view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic

Gazza

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i sold mine for £25,and i regret that day ;o(
still looking for another.


I would not sell this if you have as its value will rise in my opinion - 
apart from the fact its a blinding tune. Expect no less than 30quid on ebay 
if you do put it up now. Very hard to replace.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

Oldskool definitely depends on the particular style. So if he was playing
like '96-'97 speed garage, that'd probably count as oldskool speed garage,
cuz that's about the time it first started being made, and it's definitely
different now than it was back then. I wouldn't call this oldskool though,
without the qualifier oldskool speed garage.


> I was listening to the radio the other day (a speed garage station... don't
> remember which one) and the DJ claimed to be playing a purely "old school"
> set.  Now this is not old school as we think of it... he was playing all
> speed garage tracks from about 2-4 years ago.  Now to me this qualifies as
> simply "old", but not "old school".  The DJ did talk about this a bit and I
> got the impression that in his view if the track has a reasonably
> straightforward 4-4 garage/house beat as opposed to some new crazy UK Garage
> beat then it's "old school" house.
> 
> Anyway... I just thought I'd share that with you... funny how things change
> though.
> 
> ...later on the same station there was a shout out to the "more mature
> listeners" of the show.  It turned out he just meant anyone over 18 and so
> old enough to get into the rave they were advertising.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

Hardcore is hardcore. All hardcore is hardcore, whether it's '92 'ardkore
or '93 darkside or '96 happy hardcore or jungle or trancecore or gabber or
deathcore or dnb or Rottertrance or Rotterdam or noisecore or speedcore.

Even if it's not really all that hardcore.

> all this pigeon holing does my head in. So 96 happy hardcore is now called
> hardcore??? so what's 92 hardcore refered to now as?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> > I would say that Old Skool ranges from anything 1988 to 1994.
> >
> > Anything after is too "young" to be called "Old Skool"
> >
> > I wouldnt call 96 hardcore "old Skool" , To me thats Happy hardcore, or
> just
> > hardcore as its now called
> >
> > Gazza
> >
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The first 'oldskool' 1992 revival event I went to was
'History' in 1996. So by that definition, anything 4 years
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> Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the Chopper? I call that Old
> skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle?

Finest Illusion is *definitely* jungle  ;o)

> I could really get into this thread, cos its something thats always fked
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> off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with what is only a point
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> view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

I would say FI is on the cusp of Jungle. I remember the
whole 'darkness' thing only lasted about 8 months, so any
tune made from spring 1993 to autumn 1993 is going to be
difficult to categorise. 

Tunes like 'Loveable' still have uplifting chipmonk vocals
and hoover noises - but they are early Jungle. 

Then again, Fire when ready and We are ie sound VERY jungle,
and they were made in 1990 and 1991 respectively.


 --- Kev Keenoy <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com> wrote: > >
Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the Chopper?
> I call that Old
> > skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle?
> 
> Finest Illusion is *definitely* jungle  ;o)
> 
> > I could really get into this thread, cos its something
> thats always fked
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> is only a point
> of
> > view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic
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> It's been quiet on the list recently and there's always
> weeks of mileage in
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The term "Jungle Techno" was around long before FI - I have a tape of Cousin
Matty (Manchester Pirate radio) callling tunes like Rushing the House "deep
jungle".

> I would say FI is on the cusp of Jungle. I remember the
> whole 'darkness' thing only lasted about 8 months, so any
> tune made from spring 1993 to autumn 1993 is going to be
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Yeah, definitely. But Jungle Techno is, to my mind, distinct
from 1994 Jungle [whatever the guy says in the intro to DJ
Taktix, The Way].

People said all kinds of things on Pirate that never became
widely recognised. I remember the term Happy Hardcore being
used on pirate in summer 1993. They were referring to
1992-style rave that was still being made then. 

Since then Happy Hardcore means to most people the 1996/1997
stuff, with maybe a smattering of the 1995 breakbeat
material. Definitely not 1993 rave tunes.


 --- Kev Keenoy <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com> wrote: >
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> have a tape of Cousin
> Matty (Manchester Pirate radio) callling tunes like
> Rushing the House "deep
> jungle".
> 
> > I would say FI is on the cusp of Jungle. I remember the
> > whole 'darkness' thing only lasted about 8 months, so
> any
> > tune made from spring 1993 to autumn 1993 is going to be
> > difficult to categorise.
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> Yeah, definitely. But Jungle Techno is, to my mind, distinct
> from 1994 Jungle [whatever the guy says in the intro to DJ
> Taktix, The Way].

Thats Mad P from Topbuzz who is on the intro of the way.
Ive got tapes from mid 92 where he is describing the music as jungle techno.
IMO thats the earliest reference to it.

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> From: "Darren" <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> The 1997-1999 tech step is finished, though admittedly that style is the
> majority of what you'd hear at a TOV night.

So which nights are gonna be a good bet for the decent stuff?  We only ended
up at TOV because it was just up the road and the line-up looked OK.
Which DJ's are worth looking out for in general?  I've seen many of the big
names recently (well, in the last 6-8 months or so) and none of them really
rock any more for me.  Mickey Finn was decent, but people like Brockie, Ed
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

i think jungle has been better then it has ever
been.................................it was crap in 99 with the nine..now its
rinsin......................

Kev Keenoy wrote:

> OK so its time for one of those periodic rants about how its just not like
> it used to be...
>
> I was out at Trouble on Vinyl on Saturday night and damn was the music
> dull... the highlight of the night was when Andy C came on and dropped 'The
> Nine' as his first tune... I kid you not -- a tune well over 4 years old and
> people get paid good money for this?  They don't even mix the bloody records
> any more.. just play them one after the other with an occasional spin-back
> and continuous shouting over the top from some unintelligible MC - it's not
> like anyone even shouts for a rewind or flashes a lighter up... why would
> they for such boring tracks? The DJ's just pull a re-load regardless to drag
> the set out a bit and hide the fact that they only brought 8 records with
> them and they all sound exactly the same... I reckon most of them just can't
> mix at all probably.
>
> OK so I did leave by about 2.30 and it might have got better later on but I
> just couldn't bear any more.  I must admit I don't get out as much as I used
> to but I do like to have a go now and then to convince myself I'm not past
> it... but this has just made me want to stay home all the more.  It seems
> like all the fun,  inventiveness and class has been completely eradicated
> from about 99% of new DnB - the beats have no complexity any more and (to
> come to the subject of this mail) sound just like bad rock music, but
> stressing the 2 and 4 beat rather than the 1 and 3.  Some of the breakdowns
> on Friday really were worthy of Iron Maiden, and there were in fact people
> headbanging and pogo-ing(!), which I found pretty disturbing... what
> happened to a dip in the hip, a smile and a little shuffle left-right?
> Don't answer that - I Know - it disappeared somewhere with my misspent
> youth.
>
> Of course, there are odd good, fresh, inventive tracks that make me think
> it'll all be OK, but these are getting fewer and further between.  The most
> recent one that's really done it for me being "Do You Remember Me" by SUV
> (OK, let's be honest here... I only found out what it was called the other
> day on Destiny's show and had only heard it once or twice before then a few
> months back... but it's a fantastic track -- nice one Dest!).  In general
> though the mellower/jazzier stuff is pretty lame and never quite kicks
> enough (yeah some of the Brazilian stuff is OK, but overrated I reckon and
> still lame really), and the "heavier" stuff is no better than metal.
>
> I don't know where this is going... guess I should just go to some old
> school nights instead or something... my suspicion is that the kids have
> left DnB to the boring old men and a lot of the most interesting new stuff
> is happening in the speed garage (or whatever they call it these days)
> scene... I just can't bear to take myself down to the nights to find out -
> full of kids and awful music I imagine.  Can anyone report on this?
>
> Cheers now,
> Kev.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

Depends what you're after. I'd go for Trace for extreme
darkness, Twisted Individual, Bailey and Total Science for
variety and maybe a High Contrast or Addiction for
uplifting.

It's generally accepted that dnb was techno-influenced and
monotonous from 1997-1999/2000. Since 2001 there's been
loads of variety. So I can't really understand how anyone
would say it was better back then. Unless they're a big fan
of jump-up. Which I only like in moderation.


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From: "Darren" <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > The 1997-1999 tech step is finished, though admittedly
> that style is the
> > majority of what you'd hear at a TOV night.
> 
> So which nights are gonna be a good bet for the decent
> stuff?  We only ended
> up at TOV because it was just up the road and the line-up
> looked OK.
> Which DJ's are worth looking out for in general?  I've
> seen many of the big
> names recently (well, in the last 6-8 months or so) and
> none of them really
> rock any more for me.  Mickey Finn was decent, but people
> like Brockie, Ed
> Rush, Andy C, Loxy, Grooverider have all been
> disappointing.
> 
> 
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

yeah big time - in 1992 a lot of people were referring to what we call now
call oldskool hardcore as jungle and the term had been used load b4 that.
Got some old Eternity Mag and Blaze mags off Daz Chance yeasterday - 92/93 -
the 92 ones are full of reference to the tunes as jungle.

Africa Bambata (can't spell that but u know who I mean) referred to Planet
Rock as fusion of hip hop and jungle rhythms and that was 198... 6?

Most of the terms have morphed significantly from what they meant back in
the day. Funnily those mags have loads of references to garage and that was
92/93 - lol.

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The term "Jungle Techno" was around long before FI - I have a tape of Cousin
Matty (Manchester Pirate radio) callling tunes like Rushing the House "deep
jungle".

> I would say FI is on the cusp of Jungle. I remember the
> whole 'darkness' thing only lasted about 8 months, so any
> tune made from spring 1993 to autumn 1993 is going to be
> difficult to categorise.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

Hmmm, twitchy subject ain't it!

In my opinion Old School or Old Skool or even oldskool
is not a form of music, but it can be added to a
musical genre to make people aware that you are
talking about the earliest years of that style.

So if somebody said to me they like Old Skool, I'd say
'Old Skool what?'

Old Skool House?
Old Skool Hardcore?
Old Skool Techno?
Old Skool Electro?
Old Skool Garage?

Could be anything couldn't it!!

The key to it all I think is that the old skool tag
only applies to the first few years of a style of
music. So Hardcore was born 89-90 kind of time, so for
me anything from 90-94 could be called oldskool
hardcore. But then, back then we used to call it just
hardcore, or breakbeat hardcore or hardcore jungle. So
why call it something different now??

With the Garage thing I understand what is meant by
Old Skool (UK) Garage. That's the earliest stuff that
had a big 4-4 behind it. The oldskool garage tag can
be used because 95-99 were the first few years of this
style. After that it changed into the 2-step stuff you
hear now. Also, similar to what I said above though,
it was called Speed Garage at the time, so why not
just call it speed garage now???

There's no way you can say oldskool is anything before
1994, or 1995 because if you spoke to some Electro
head he would proably say that old skool was anything
pre 1987!

As for Diana Ross!! Hardcore?? Blimey, were these
people new age christians or something! I can't even
begin to understand why they call their music
hardcore!

Matt B

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oldschool?
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Happy Hardcore inherited the name "Hardcore" along
with "Happy 
Hardcore" 
simply by being current Hardcore at the time.  Well
thats my perception 
anyhow

Yeah - Pigeon Holing as you call it does my head in
too  I suppose its 
useful 
in some ways -ie if your trying to describe a tune!
-Everybodys got a 
different opinion though you occasonally get people
who insist that 
they know 
how to classify music perfectly. 

All I will say is that if there is a pigeon hole for
every type of 
music, 
then theres a  shitload of pigeon holes.  There are
just too many tunes 
which 
dont fit - If you check Ebay out for example, by far,
one of the 
largest 
sections is "OTHER" 

Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the
Chopper? I call that 
Old 
skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle? 

I went to some geezers house to buy a load of
"Hardcore" and got there 
it was 
Diana Ross and Sheena Easton - I nearly pissed myself.
 Yet everyone 
else in 
the room seem to believe it was "Hardcore"???????????
WTF??

I could really get into this thread, cos its something
thats always 
fked me 
off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with
what is only a 
point of 
view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic

Gazza



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

First time I heard oldskool term used was in reference to Hip Hop - but that
was like 88 hip hop calling 82 hip hop Oldskool - lol.

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 21 January 2003 14:39
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?


Hmmm, twitchy subject ain't it!

In my opinion Old School or Old Skool or even oldskool
is not a form of music, but it can be added to a
musical genre to make people aware that you are
talking about the earliest years of that style.

So if somebody said to me they like Old Skool, I'd say
'Old Skool what?'

Old Skool House?
Old Skool Hardcore?
Old Skool Techno?
Old Skool Electro?
Old Skool Garage?

Could be anything couldn't it!!

The key to it all I think is that the old skool tag
only applies to the first few years of a style of
music. So Hardcore was born 89-90 kind of time, so for
me anything from 90-94 could be called oldskool
hardcore. But then, back then we used to call it just
hardcore, or breakbeat hardcore or hardcore jungle. So
why call it something different now??

With the Garage thing I understand what is meant by
Old Skool (UK) Garage. That's the earliest stuff that
had a big 4-4 behind it. The oldskool garage tag can
be used because 95-99 were the first few years of this
style. After that it changed into the 2-step stuff you
hear now. Also, similar to what I said above though,
it was called Speed Garage at the time, so why not
just call it speed garage now???

There's no way you can say oldskool is anything before
1994, or 1995 because if you spoke to some Electro
head he would proably say that old skool was anything
pre 1987!

As for Diana Ross!! Hardcore?? Blimey, were these
people new age christians or something! I can't even
begin to understand why they call their music
hardcore!

Matt B

Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:05:25 EST
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
From: Bingoberty@aol.com
Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is
oldschool?
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Happy Hardcore inherited the name "Hardcore" along
with "Happy
Hardcore"
simply by being current Hardcore at the time.  Well
thats my perception
anyhow

Yeah - Pigeon Holing as you call it does my head in
too  I suppose its
useful
in some ways -ie if your trying to describe a tune!
-Everybodys got a
different opinion though you occasonally get people
who insist that
they know
how to classify music perfectly.

All I will say is that if there is a pigeon hole for
every type of
music,
then theres a  shitload of pigeon holes.  There are
just too many tunes
which
dont fit - If you check Ebay out for example, by far,
one of the
largest
sections is "OTHER"

Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the
Chopper? I call that
Old
skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle?

I went to some geezers house to buy a load of
"Hardcore" and got there
it was
Diana Ross and Sheena Easton - I nearly pissed myself.
 Yet everyone
else in
the room seem to believe it was "Hardcore"???????????
WTF??

I could really get into this thread, cos its something
thats always
fked me
off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with
what is only a
point of
view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic

Gazza



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Drum'n'Bass is just pony rock these days...

Check out Friction or Bailey if you can. Also there is something called
Technicality (or Inperspective) night. Not sure where it is though, as I'm
not in the uk. However according to Bailey on 1xtra this is a regular party
where all the people care about are breaks - the crazier the better. And if
you think drum'n'bass is worse now than ten years ago listen to the Legend
by Dylan and Technical Itch and think again. :)
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> > From: "Darren" <djphthor@yahoo.com>
> > The 1997-1999 tech step is finished, though admittedly that style is the
> > majority of what you'd hear at a TOV night.
>
> So which nights are gonna be a good bet for the decent stuff?  We only
ended
> up at TOV because it was just up the road and the line-up looked OK.
> Which DJ's are worth looking out for in general?  I've seen many of the
big
> names recently (well, in the last 6-8 months or so) and none of them
really
> rock any more for me.  Mickey Finn was decent, but people like Brockie, Ed
> Rush, Andy C, Loxy, Grooverider have all been disappointing.
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Subject: (oldschool) state of the breaks

I was listening to one of those teenage garage stations the
other day - and between ignoring the shitty MCing I have to
admit I liked some of the dark, twisted beats going on.
There was fucking drum patterns as complex as you like along
with all kinds of dark sounds and effects - I swear I heard
a distorted glockenshpiel for the first time since '93.

Anyway, it was a lot more interesting than the stuff
Pilgrim, Tipper, BLIM and FreQ Nasty come out with (they
seem to be making the same electro tune over and over
again). 

I know Hype, Zinc, Pascal and Twisted Individual make this
dark 'breakstep' stuff... maybe that explains it.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) state of the breaks

> I was listening to one of those teenage garage stations the
> other day - and between ignoring the shitty MCing I have to
> admit I liked some of the dark, twisted beats going on.

Yeah I know - some of the music you can just make out behind the shouting
kids seems like it might be good, but I can never stand more than about 20
minutes of it cos of the MC's.  Sometimes you can't even hear the tune at
all.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) state of the breaks

Quoting Kev Keenoy <kevin.keenoy@navigationzone.com>:

> Yeah I know - some of the music you can just make out behind the shouting
> kids seems like it might be good, but I can never stand more than about 20
> minutes of it cos of the MC's.  Sometimes you can't even hear the tune at
> all.

ha! sounds like a modern-day dnb party!


Death to tha Skibadee


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the repress of live together has a tune on the other side called is this =
real. Was this tune originally released on impact? my original version =
of live together is 1 sided. I'm only missing impact 9 and 19 and im =
sure i dont have this b side? do i have to buy a smelly repress?

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) impact repress question

you've got the SL2 remix of Live Together, not the original....


IMPACT 005 is the original :-


Can You Feel It
Is This Real
Live together



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the repress of live together has a tune on the other side called is this
real. Was this tune originally released on impact? my original version of
live together is 1 sided. I'm only missing impact 9 and 19 and im sure i
dont have this b side? do i have to buy a smelly repress?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) state of the breaks

garage is so good now


check out dj slimzee


ouch

Kev Keenoy wrote:

> > I was listening to one of those teenage garage stations the
> > other day - and between ignoring the shitty MCing I have to
> > admit I liked some of the dark, twisted beats going on.
>
> Yeah I know - some of the music you can just make out behind the shouting
> kids seems like it might be good, but I can never stand more than about 20
> minutes of it cos of the MC's.  Sometimes you can't even hear the tune at
> all.
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> > I could really get into this thread, cos its something thats always fked
> me
> > off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with what is only a point
> of
> > view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic
> 
> It's been quiet on the list recently and there's always weeks of mileage in
> this thread (again!)... go for it, I say!

I've been off the list for the last coupla weeks due to my account filling
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is oldschool?

IMO, oldskool means the original sound of a particular style that's
significantly different from the current sound. If nuskool sounds exactly
the same as oldskool (not talking about like nuskool UK 'ardkore aka new
oldskool or whatever), then there's not really any oldskool. I mean,
unless it's been around long enough that there are classic choons from
back in the day, then you could say that they and their contemporaries are
oldskool.

 > Hmmm, twitchy subject
ain't it! > > In my opinion Old School or Old Skool or even oldskool
> is not a form of music, but it can be added to a
> musical genre to make people aware that you are
> talking about the earliest years of that style.
> 
> So if somebody said to me they like Old Skool, I'd say
> 'Old Skool what?'
> 
> Old Skool House?
> Old Skool Hardcore?
> Old Skool Techno?
> Old Skool Electro?
> Old Skool Garage?
> 
> Could be anything couldn't it!!
> 
> The key to it all I think is that the old skool tag
> only applies to the first few years of a style of
> music. So Hardcore was born 89-90 kind of time, so for
> me anything from 90-94 could be called oldskool
> hardcore. But then, back then we used to call it just
> hardcore, or breakbeat hardcore or hardcore jungle. So
> why call it something different now??
> 
> With the Garage thing I understand what is meant by
> Old Skool (UK) Garage. That's the earliest stuff that
> had a big 4-4 behind it. The oldskool garage tag can
> be used because 95-99 were the first few years of this
> style. After that it changed into the 2-step stuff you
> hear now. Also, similar to what I said above though,
> it was called Speed Garage at the time, so why not
> just call it speed garage now???
> 
> There's no way you can say oldskool is anything before
> 1994, or 1995 because if you spoke to some Electro
> head he would proably say that old skool was anything
> pre 1987!
> 
> As for Diana Ross!! Hardcore?? Blimey, were these
> people new age christians or something! I can't even
> begin to understand why they call their music
> hardcore!
> 
> Matt B
> 
> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 20:05:25 EST
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> From: Bingoberty@aol.com
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) ...and another thing: what is
> oldschool?
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> 
> Happy Hardcore inherited the name "Hardcore" along
> with "Happy 
> Hardcore" 
> simply by being current Hardcore at the time.  Well
> thats my perception 
> anyhow
> 
> Yeah - Pigeon Holing as you call it does my head in
> too  I suppose its 
> useful 
> in some ways -ie if your trying to describe a tune!
> -Everybodys got a 
> different opinion though you occasonally get people
> who insist that 
> they know 
> how to classify music perfectly. 
> 
> All I will say is that if there is a pigeon hole for
> every type of 
> music, 
> then theres a  shitload of pigeon holes.  There are
> just too many tunes 
> which 
> dont fit - If you check Ebay out for example, by far,
> one of the 
> largest 
> sections is "OTHER" 
> 
> Where does Finest illusion fit in?  DJ Hype the
> Chopper? I call that 
> Old 
> skool Hardcore, but Others call it Jungle? 
> 
> I went to some geezers house to buy a load of
> "Hardcore" and got there 
> it was 
> Diana Ross and Sheena Easton - I nearly pissed myself.
>  Yet everyone 
> else in 
> the room seem to believe it was "Hardcore"???????????
> WTF??
> 
> I could really get into this thread, cos its something
> thats always 
> fked me 
> off - But i fear I would bore you all to tears with
> what is only a 
> point of 
> view on a highly pointless, but very debatable topic
> 
> Gazza
> 
> 
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mmm, tasty. a little outta my budget though, specially since I'm still
waiting for $100 worth of stuff from another guy on this list.


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Subject: (oldschool) WTP (Wheres the party)

I finally got some today!
Ive been after WTP tunes ever since I started researching Roni Size/Full
Cycle's history.
Ive read at many different times that WTP is what later became Full Cycle.
So far apart from the two I got today, the only other one I know of is 3 Way
Split (anyone got a copy for trade? I'll trade something real good for it!)

Today I got:
Solow - Plains of happiness - WTPEP005
New Age - Solstice - WTPEP002

Interestingly, Solstice features Leonie Laws who later went on to become
part of Breakbeat Era!
Both are brand new and unplayed!

Anymore info on this label would be most welcome :)

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
ICQ:     101942966
Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
Radio:  www.breakpirates.com (Sunday's 7PM-GMT)





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Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

Quick test of character for you all...

Think long and hard before making a decision...

The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-

"The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your oldskool 
records"

What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??  

Do you 

a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your records 
get torched

or..

b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna 
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

tricky question.

I think the old bird hasn't left so on the balance she'd have to burn. If it
was someone a bit younger in the flames then maybe I'd melt the wax.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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Quick test of character for you all...

Think long and hard before making a decision...

The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-

"The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
oldskool
records"

What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??

Do you

a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your records
get torched

or..

b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna
find my tunes ever again!


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

The fumes from the bonfire will probably kill her, and most of the
neighbourhood, anyway.
So do everyone a favour and keep the tunes.

I assume this is a completely hypothetical question?
If not, I pass no judgement either way.  I'm not having anyone's death on my
hands.  Not today anyway.

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> Quick test of character for you all...
>
> Think long and hard before making a decision...
>
> The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
>
> "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
oldskool
> records"
>
> What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
>
> Do you
>
> a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
records
> get torched
>
> or..
>
> b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna
> find my tunes ever again!
>
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Save The records, although the old girl may well be loaded and offer to
replace then, but then is Max Bygraves really oldskool?

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Quick test of character for you all...

Think long and hard before making a decision...

The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-

"The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
oldskool
records"

What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??

Do you

a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
records
get torched

or..

b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna
find my tunes ever again!


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA


Lets face it, by the time you are 85 most things will have stopped working or at least you will be semi spazzed so sod her!!! The records win!


> Quick test of character for you all...
>
>Think long and hard before making a decision...
>
>The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
>
"The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your oldskool 
>records"
>
>What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??  
>
>Do you 
>
>a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your records 
>get torched
>
>or..
>
>b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna 
>find my tunes ever again!
>
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Keep the tunes.
My missus knows full well if the house catches fire I will be removing them
first LOL
And it was her that said it!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

on 22/1/03 11:53 PM, Bingoberty@aol.com at Bingoberty@aol.com wrote:

> Quick test of character for you all...
> 
> Think long and hard before making a decision...
> 
> The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
> 
> "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your oldskool
> records"
> 
> What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
> 
> Do you 
> 
> a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your records
> get torched
> 
> or..
> 
> b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna
> find my tunes ever again!

Berty - you're really playing on my mind fella. I would usually say (b) in a
flash but I must admit I had to think twice. My ol' doll's granny turned 85
only the other day. I really don't want to tempt fate by putting my honest
answer here. :)

Colin Dee.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy question!!!
Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes for
anybody, no matter who it was.



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> Quick test of character for you all...
>
> Think long and hard before making a decision...
>
> The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
>
> "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
oldskool
> records"
>
> What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
>
> Do you
>
> a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
records
> get torched
>
> or..
>
> b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna
> find my tunes ever again!
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

nah cool breeze would be saying something like - if my house caught fire
would you pop in give my sister a shag so she wouldn't die a virgin (I
assume you saw that post - or that won't make sense).

Steve
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are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy question!!!
Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes for
anybody, no matter who it was.



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Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA


> Quick test of character for you all...
>
> Think long and hard before making a decision...
>
> The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
>
> "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
oldskool
> records"
>
> What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
>
> Do you
>
> a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
records
> get torched
>
> or..
>
> b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not gonna
> find my tunes ever again!
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

not looked as yet today, just got in from a faaaaat hip hop gig in
Shoreditch. Just saw dirtburg, beleive me they are gonna be massive. You
heard it here first!!!

any chance of a link??


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> nah cool breeze would be saying something like - if my house caught fire
> would you pop in give my sister a shag so she wouldn't die a virgin (I
> assume you saw that post - or that won't make sense).
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 23 January 2003 00:38
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy question!!!
> Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes
for
> anybody, no matter who it was.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bingoberty@aol.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:53 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> > Quick test of character for you all...
> >
> > Think long and hard before making a decision...
> >
> > The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
> >
> > "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
> oldskool
> > records"
> >
> > What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
> >
> > Do you
> >
> > a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
> records
> > get torched
> >
> > or..
> >
> > b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not
gonna
> > find my tunes ever again!
> >
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

this one was from about 6mnths ago when he asked for advice on whether he
should advise his sister to keep her cherry intact and wait for the right
man - was in the B2VOS off topic section - maybe it got misposted and should
have got send to Dear Marjorie at the Sun?

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


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Sent: 23 January 2003 00:44
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA


not looked as yet today, just got in from a faaaaat hip hop gig in
Shoreditch. Just saw dirtburg, beleive me they are gonna be massive. You
heard it here first!!!

any chance of a link??


----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA


> nah cool breeze would be saying something like - if my house caught fire
> would you pop in give my sister a shag so she wouldn't die a virgin (I
> assume you saw that post - or that won't make sense).
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
> Sent: 23 January 2003 00:38
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy question!!!
> Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes
for
> anybody, no matter who it was.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Bingoberty@aol.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:53 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> > Quick test of character for you all...
> >
> > Think long and hard before making a decision...
> >
> > The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
> >
> > "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
> oldskool
> > records"
> >
> > What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
> >
> > Do you
> >
> > a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
> records
> > get torched
> >
> > or..
> >
> > b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not
gonna
> > find my tunes ever again!
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

very vaguely remember something about it. Very rarely ever read anything
posted by him now. gazza's post did have a distinct wiff of coolbreeze
tho.An unmistakeable fragrance.


----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:58 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA


> this one was from about 6mnths ago when he asked for advice on whether he
> should advise his sister to keep her cherry intact and wait for the right
> man - was in the B2VOS off topic section - maybe it got misposted and
should
> have got send to Dear Marjorie at the Sun?
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
> Sent: 23 January 2003 00:44
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> not looked as yet today, just got in from a faaaaat hip hop gig in
> Shoreditch. Just saw dirtburg, beleive me they are gonna be massive. You
> heard it here first!!!
>
> any chance of a link??
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ Moody" <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 12:44 AM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> > nah cool breeze would be saying something like - if my house caught fire
> > would you pop in give my sister a shag so she wouldn't die a virgin (I
> > assume you saw that post - or that won't make sense).
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.nrgized.co.uk
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > www.interface-radio.co.uk
> > Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:rich@jungletekno.com]
> > Sent: 23 January 2003 00:38
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
> >
> >
> > are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy
question!!!
> > Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes
> for
> > anybody, no matter who it was.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Bingoberty@aol.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:53 PM
> > Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
> >
> >
> > > Quick test of character for you all...
> > >
> > > Think long and hard before making a decision...
> > >
> > > The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
> > >
> > > "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
> > oldskool
> > > records"
> > >
> > > What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
> > >
> > > Do you
> > >
> > > a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
> > records
> > > get torched
> > >
> > > or..
> > >
> > > b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not
> gonna
> > > find my tunes ever again!
> > >
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>anybody, no matter who it was. <------------- wot no matter who? not even 
>your mum/dad??


>are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy question!!!
>Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes for
>anybody, no matter who it was.
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:53 PM
>Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
>
>
> > Quick test of character for you all...
> >
> > Think long and hard before making a decision...
> >
> > The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
> >
> > "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
>oldskool
> > records"
> >
> > What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
> >
> > Do you
> >
> > a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
>records
> > get torched
> >
> > or..
> >
> > b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not 
>gonna
> > find my tunes ever again!
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) In the hand today!

Finally, some of my wants list goes down after way too long being stagnant!

Grim Reaper etc...  - The herb (Ses massive mix) - Mad House
Rudeboy - Junglist/Musicology - Biology (BIO001)
Swanne & Ellis Dee - Ruffneck business (Promo copy)
NRG - Feel the fury EP - Chill
F Project 1
Aurura - Sunshine EP - Adrenalin Promo (Replaced from a trade)
1st Prodject - Right Before - Fokus
Sonz of... - Peace and lovism (Remixes) - Sub Base

A nice days trading, concidering they were all traded for 14 average
dnb/oldskool tunes that I had doubles of ;o)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

this is getting reaaaaally stupid now.


----- Original Message -----
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>
> >anybody, no matter who it was. <------------- wot no matter who? not even
> >your mum/dad??
>
>
> >are you coolbreeze by any chance???? Jesus crist what a crazy question!!!
> >Fuck the old lady she's had a good innings. i wouldn't give up my tunes
for
> >anybody, no matter who it was.
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <Bingoberty@aol.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 3:53 PM
> >Subject: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA
> >
> >
> > > Quick test of character for you all...
> > >
> > > Think long and hard before making a decision...
> > >
> > > The god of concience rests on your shoulder and says:-
> > >
> > > "The 85 year Old Lady three doors down dies unless you burn all your
> >oldskool
> > > records"
> > >
> > > What do you do??  Burn Tango Project? Finest Illusion Extremity EP??
> > >
> > > Do you
> > >
> > > a) save the Old Bird and Give her a few more years andwatch all your
> >records
> > > get torched
> > >
> > > or..
> > >
> > > b) Save the tunes - lets face it, shes had a good innings and Im not
> >gonna
> > > find my tunes ever again!
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

OK - Lets take it to another level:-

Saddam Hussain will launch a nuclear attack on britain unless you have oral 
sex with both of your parents.

Do you:-

a) Give
b) Receive

??

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

now this really has got to be coolbreeze!!!!!


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> OK - Lets take it to another level:-
>
> Saddam Hussain will launch a nuclear attack on britain unless you have
oral
> sex with both of your parents.
>
> Do you:-
>
> a) Give
> b) Receive
>
> ??
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OLDSKOOL DILEMMA

woops. missed the oldlady dying question..

I love my tunes, if I had to pull the trigger to keep them, or pour the 
petrol and strike the match as the case may be then I would probly watch 
them all burn (the tunnes) and then be depressed for a bit, and then start 
replacing them (!?)
but if it was her fault and she was burning and I had to chuck me tunes in 
to  douse the fire or something then I would say fuck her. nnot my  fault. 
weird how you can put an age on it tho innit. I would probly say around 
retiring age would be whenn I would give up my tunes for the old dears life, 
say 60-65. and then I would wannt first dibs on the granddaughters as 
copensation. I love  being in england, stella on tap again, joy. What I dont 
love are these stupid f**cking libraryu computers with stupid keybpoards 
that donnbt work, I cant even be arsed to correct everything noiw as it 
takes to long, I will admiut I ammpissed but the sloppy writing has moreto 
do with the dodgy keyboard. (honest)

as for the second question, and ifyouarestill reading good for you, I 
wopuldnt be, thats just sick.

DjKrane






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Subject: (oldschool) Ebay

For anyone interested there is a copy of what evil lurks on ebay for a 
tenner at the moment with a day to go.

Im gutted, xproject - walking in the air went for 15quid
never try the hippodrome went for 4 quid
andaheap of others I was watchiunng went for very little. Its a bit 
different to a year ago when you couldnt buy edge*1 for less than 20 quid. 
anyone got an explanation? is old skool not fashionable anymore??

I did notice hyper on exp - deaf in the family (lord of null lines orig) was 
going for 80 quid tho!! bit steep, great tune but 80 quid. crikey. I checked 
on it just then tho, and for some reason the dude cancelled all bids, and he 
  had afair few. dodgy dealings me finks. oh well, Im going to bed

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"Its a bit different to a year ago when you couldnt buy edge*1 for less than
20 quid.
anyone got an explanation? is old skool not fashionable anymore?"

a lot of people are selling records now, mp3s, and its nowhere near as
fashionable as it was a couple of years ago

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For anyone interested there is a copy of what evil lurks on ebay for a
tenner at the moment with a day to go.

Im gutted, xproject - walking in the air went for 15quid
never try the hippodrome went for 4 quid
andaheap of others I was watchiunng went for very little. Its a bit
different to a year ago when you couldnt buy edge*1 for less than 20 quid.
anyone got an explanation? is old skool not fashionable anymore??

I did notice hyper on exp - deaf in the family (lord of null lines orig) was
going for 80 quid tho!! bit steep, great tune but 80 quid. crikey. I checked
on it just then tho, and for some reason the dude cancelled all bids, and he
  had afair few. dodgy dealings me finks. oh well, Im going to bed

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The titles which fetch good cash are changing - thats all.  The classics hav=
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now been round the houses - last year saw a lot of people get into old skool=
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who have probably got all the anthems now,so whereas last year all the Far=20
out and some justice, bombscare etc were getting =A320-30 now get =A310-15 c=
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everyone knows that theres not exactly a shortage of em and most people now=20
have em

The reason IMO that prices are low on ebay is because its full of shit -=20
theres too much junk to shift thru to get to decent tunes

Its the more obscure decent stuff which didnt sell so good or wasnt promoted=
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well which seems to get good cash now - I dont think old skool will go down=20
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Even if old skool goes out of fashion, there are still a fuck load of=20
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that note..........

HARDCORE WILL NEVER DIE

Gazza


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> Im gutted, xproject - walking in the air went for 15quid
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> Nah! -it was some rip off version wasnt it??

Gazza

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An ld track im trying to ID on cleveland city records - got a guitar riff and 
the flip is called something like
"babelicious"?? or somehting like that -i was mullered at the time

Can anyone ID it?

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Hi All,=20


My weekly show is streaming now....


http://breakpirates.com/stream.pls

and don't forget there is a chatroom as well #drum&bass on efnet (MiRC), =
check out www.breakpirates.com for more info on it.

I'm accepting requests as usual, hopefully see you there  :)

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From oldschool-return-82471-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Fri Jan 24 06:45:21 2003
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I'm hearing some nuskool mix of Who jah Bless =)



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>Hi All,
>
>
>My weekly show is streaming now....
>
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>
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Subject: (oldschool) OT- old Prince tune request

can someone link me with real audio or mp3 of this tune?

Sheila E and Prince - Love Bizarre

peace

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You may remember a couple weeks ago I mentioned about Revolution =
Magazine, featuring my work teams wall charts products in their main =
"trailblazers" section (www.premiershipwallchart.com).

Anyway, the February issue has now been released in the last couple of =
days, but as we aren't subscribers to the magazine we can't see it!!!

We're trying to source copies, so if anyone works at a company with a =
marketing department there's a high chance you'll have just received the =
February issue of Revolution Magazine - its the largest digital media =
marketing magazine in the UK. If you do (and please ask) can you please =
contact me asap as I'd love to have the copy when your company has =
finished with it if possible.

Thanks in advance
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Edge 1

Ive got two copies of Edge 1 for sale - one has just "Edge records *1 on each 
side, and the other copy has the tune details?

Im guessing ones a promo ones a proper one? or ones a press and ones an orig?

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Hundreds of quality tunes (loads of new ones) to trade if anyones got any of 
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just 4 u london 
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Hi All,

I'm trying to find out for someone where the female vocal samples used =
in Acen's trip to the moon are sampled from.

Any ideas anyone?

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ive wanted to know this forever!!!!

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:36:13 -0000, Rollin <deejayrollin@yahoo.co.uk> 
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> Hi All,
>
> I'm trying to find out for someone where the female vocal samples used in 
> Acen's trip to the moon are sampled from.
>
> Any ideas anyone?
>
> Cheers, Matt / Rollin
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Ez Entropy, was woondering the iother day if you were still around. How ya
doin matey? Not heard much from ya recently!!!


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> ive wanted to know this forever!!!!
>
> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:36:13 -0000, Rollin <deejayrollin@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm trying to find out for someone where the female vocal samples used
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> > Acen's trip to the moon are sampled from.
> >
> > Any ideas anyone?
> >
> > Cheers, Matt / Rollin
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> -Ian Entropy
> http://www.djentropy.com
>
> "Ladies leave your man at home, the club is full of ballers like G
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>I'm trying to find out for someone where the female vocal
> samples used in Acen's trip to the moon are sampled from.

> Any ideas anyone?

Ive answered this question dozens on times!
I used to have a really crap 80's pop type tune by some avareage unknown
group.
(They had the big hair and futuristic jumpsuits etc on the sleeve LOL)
It had 2 tunes on, and on the b-side was an accapella, which contained the
line:

"I caaaaaant beeeeeleive this feeling"

Unfortunatly, I threw it away when I moved, and cant remember who it was by!

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Subject: (oldschool) F-Project WHITE 013

Who was after this?

I've seen a copy for sale,not cheap but not that expensive considering how 
rare it is... Mail me privately and ill pass on details.


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<PRE>Im after number 4 -at any price (well sort of....)

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> I've seen a copy for sale,not cheap but not that expensive considering how
> rare it is...

Ive had this years, never taken much notice of it!
How rare are we talking here?!
I cant even remember what it sounds like LOL best dig it out :)

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It may be rare but it aint that good, So being rare hardly makes it worth 
much imo - Some rare stuff is rare cos its shit and no-one bought it :-)

No 4 is the only one worth shouting loud about

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Are you kidding? THat piece of vinyl is hot. That "reach up" track that
Easygroove used to cain is on there. the other side has two more top tunes
as well IMO. too bad mines a white label, so I have no idea who the
artist is or what the track titles are.

cheers

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> No 4 is the only one worth shouting loud about
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> as well IMO. too bad mines a white label, so I have no idea who the
> artist is or what the track titles are.

None of the F Project releases had names, the 13 is by The Storm.

> No 4 is the only one worth shouting loud about

Not so, IMO theres a wicked tune on #1, #2 is good both sides, 15 is wicked!
(JJ Frost)
But as you say, #4 is the best no question.
Mine copy is going nowhere ;op

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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) Goldie's Ducati

Anyone who read his biography (a wicked read I may add!) may of spotted the
bit where he said he was given a gold bike to celebrate the 100,000th one
made. (Its 18kt gold paint)
Well, guess who has got it sitting in their warehouse at work ready for
delivery!

www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/images/goldie1.JPG
www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/images/goldie3.JPG

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) (OT) Goldie's Ducati

LUSH!!! Do ya reckon he'll ever ride it??


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> Anyone who read his biography (a wicked read I may add!) may of spotted
the
> bit where he said he was given a gold bike to celebrate the 100,000th one
> made. (Its 18kt gold paint)
> Well, guess who has got it sitting in their warehouse at work ready for
> delivery!
>
> www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/images/goldie1.JPG
> www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/images/goldie3.JPG
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) F-Project WHITE 013

can someone sort clips or sompthing or #4 and others??


>From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Subject: Re: (oldschool) F-Project WHITE 013
>Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:25:55 -0000
>
> > as well IMO. too bad mines a white label, so I have no idea who the
> > artist is or what the track titles are.
>
>None of the F Project releases had names, the 13 is by The Storm.
>
> > No 4 is the only one worth shouting loud about
>
>Not so, IMO theres a wicked tune on #1, #2 is good both sides, 15 is 
>wicked!
>(JJ Frost)
>But as you say, #4 is the best no question.
>Mine copy is going nowhere ;op
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Subject: (oldschool) my mates remix of Doc Scott - NHS - what do you think

My mates remix of Doc Scott - NHS - what do you think ?
Made using Soundforge and Reason.

http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/audio/NHS-2003_vers
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Subject: (oldschool) Fw: BLAME/FRACTURE & NEPTUNE - TECHNICALITY FEBUARY 5TH 2003


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Subject: BLAME/FRACTURE & NEPTUNE - TECHNICALITY FEBUARY 5TH 2003


> Hope you have all had a great Christmas and a drunken new year!!
>
> This month at Technicality we are pleased to announce the debut of East
London duo, Fracture & Neptune. They have had tracks recently signed to
Droppin Science, Steetbeats and of course now Inperspective so they are
building a quality reputation within the progressive D&B scene.
>
> Joining them will be Technicality "resident" Blame.  With a new album on
the way and plenty of new material abound from the 720 camp, expect to hear
some quality tunes coming your way on the night. Technicality resident Chris
Inperspective will be also joining them all on the decks with some new
Inperspective pressure, watch out for that!!
>
> Herbal, 12-14 Kingsland Road, London E2
> Doors open at 21:00 / Free before 22:00 then £3 all night!
>
> More dates in Ireland and London have been added to the events diary so
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be able to see when "The Celtic Time-Splitter" Senses, will be playing for
our good friends at Manga in Edinburgh, Scotland. As usual if you are a
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>
> INP004 - EQUINOX Alpha Proxima / Filteration and INP005 - ASC Windchime /
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>
> Thanks to all those who noticed that some of the sound clips on the
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Acen samples - trip to the moon

yeah mate, im still here!

my computer has been down since mid-november, so i've been on my fiance's 
laptop, so i'm not on as much anymore...

should be rebuildin my box soon tho!

:)

On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 19:17:55 -0000, Richard Wyatt <rich@jungletekno.com> 
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> Ez Entropy, was woondering the iother day if you were still around. How 
> ya
> doin matey? Not heard much from ya recently!!!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Acen samples - trip to the moon
>
>
>> ive wanted to know this forever!!!!
>>
>> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:36:13 -0000, Rollin <deejayrollin@yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to find out for someone where the female vocal samples used
> in
>> > Acen's trip to the moon are sampled from.
>> >
>> > Any ideas anyone?
>> >
>> > Cheers, Matt / Rollin
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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Subject: (oldschool) Lookin for clips/reccomendations on these....




SATIN STORM SEE THE LIGHT / KICK UP A SOUND GUY!   SSHC1

WHITE LABEL   12MKT3

WHITE LABEL   CAR1001

KURNEL KNIFEKUT & GENERAK GUN DADDY ARMSHOUSE THEME FROM DADDY ARMSHOUSE / 
CAPTAIN AMERICA / MAN SHOT DEAD IN DALSTON E8  DA004

INTELLEX  WHITE LABEL   DFS001

EDF & ETERNITY  BREAK IT DOWN/ENERGY  WHITE LABEL   DJV012

INNER VISIONS GLOBAL DANCE BABY PLEASE (ORIGINAL / NOISE OVERLOAD REMIX) GDRX6

ISOLATION  WHITE LABEL  JFM001

WHITE LABEL   MR1

WHITE LABEL   NUG1

THE MINDSCAPE CREW BOOBY TRAP RECORDINGS JUNGLE HEAVEN / 4TH DIMENSION 
MIND001

WHITE LABEL   UREP003

THE BOY'Z DEM BOOBY TRAP RECORDINGS MYSTICAL MINDS   UREP006

WHITE LABEL   PDJ06

COOL BREEZE + DJ STEELIE 2 TUFF FINGER ON THE TRIGGER / KIK IT 2 UM   TUFF002

BAY B KANE    FREE B



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> SATIN STORM SEE THE LIGHT / KICK UP A SOUND GUY!   SSHC1

This is great.

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Good tune, the full tune is on www.hardcorewillneverdie.com

>KURNEL KNIFEKUT & GENERAK GUN DADDY ARMSHOUSE THEME FROM DADDY ARMSHOUSE / 
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1210's and mixer and a flight case are up for sale by me on ebay
being sold to finance new car and house

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D3004010819

Sassy
www.djlevia.com
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A friend gave me the number of some geezer with 9,000 tunes for sale for=20
=A33.5k - apparently 20& old skool hardcore (1,800 tunes -worth =A33.5k alon=
e!!)

So creaming my pants, i drive round with huge anticipation of finding 2=20
extreme, 2 copies of seal blame, 3 finest illusions tango projects etc.. as=20
the guy "used to be on the subbase, moving shadow formation mailing lists=20
-all tps an promos - i was so excited

Thebest bit was that after going thru the first 10 boxes of 250, Checking ca=
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subbase tps etc.  To which he replied "they must be in one of the back=20
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look at this guy and say, well theres no old skool or jungle in here, not at=
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all?  To which he replies all sort of "geezer" style :-

"Naaah mate - you must has missed them -theres loads in there, but theyre al=
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So sifted through about 5,000 slabs of pure utter luther vandross crap to=20
find about 25 old skool'ish' tunes (not 1,800!) and at =A33 a time, i only=20
bought 9 as the other were complete crap(anticapella, rozalla etc) to have=20
something to go home with!!

Still Numb=20

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> happens to me all the time that does!!
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> =A33.5k - apparently 20& old skool hardcore (1,800 tunes -worth =A33.5k alone=
!!)
>=20
> So creaming my pants, i drive round with huge anticipation of finding 2
> extreme, 2 copies of seal blame, 3 finest illusions tango projects etc.. =
as
> the guy "used to be on the subbase, moving shadow formation mailing lists
> -all tps an promos - i was so excited
>=20
> Thebest bit was that after going thru the first 10 boxes of 250, Checking=
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> nos on whites etc, I said to the guy, well where are all the moving shado=
w n
> subbase tps etc.  To which he replied "they must be in one of the back
> boxes", so we looked through all the boxes and each time it was "Oh this =
must
> be one of the boxes - or maybe this one"
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> Once we had finished looking though, There were none - So, all confused, =
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> look at this guy and say, well theres no old skool or jungle in here, not=
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> all?  To which he replies all sort of "geezer" style :-
>=20
> "Naaah mate - you must has missed them -theres loads in there, but theyre=
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> TP's innit"=20
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> So sifted through about 5,000 slabs of pure utter luther vandross crap to
> find about 25 old skool'ish' tunes (not 1,800!) and at =A33 a time, i only
> bought 9 as the other were complete crap(anticapella, rozalla etc) to hav=
e
> something to go home with!!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Lookin for clips/reccomendations on these....

At 11:26 28/01/03 +0000, you wrote:
>Good tune, the full tune is on www.hardcorewillneverdie.com
>
>>KURNEL KNIFEKUT & GENERAK GUN DADDY ARMSHOUSE THEME FROM DADDY ARMSHOUSE 
>>/ CAPTAIN AMERICA / MAN SHOT DEAD IN DALSTON E8  DA004

Yeah,someone else pointed that out to me too - wicked tune,and one which i 
have been after for a while. I missed it tho - it was already gone,arghhhhh!!!

Ta Paul,and Kev!


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what a tosser!!! jesus, talk about a waste of time!!! I have a smiliar
problem when i go record hunting in obscure record stores, the always have a
'dance' section, which always has the most stupidly non dance tunes ever.
Sometimes find gems, but very rarely.


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> A friend gave me the number of some geezer with 9,000 tunes for sale for
> £3.5k - apparently 20& old skool hardcore (1,800 tunes -worth £3.5k
alone!!)
>
> So creaming my pants, i drive round with huge anticipation of finding 2
> extreme, 2 copies of seal blame, 3 finest illusions tango projects etc..
as
> the guy "used to be on the subbase, moving shadow formation mailing lists
> -all tps an promos - i was so excited
>
> Thebest bit was that after going thru the first 10 boxes of 250, Checking
cat
> nos on whites etc, I said to the guy, well where are all the moving shadow
n
> subbase tps etc.  To which he replied "they must be in one of the back
> boxes", so we looked through all the boxes and each time it was "Oh this
must
> be one of the boxes - or maybe this one"
>
> Once we had finished looking though, There were none - So, all confused, i
> look at this guy and say, well theres no old skool or jungle in here, not
at
> all?  To which he replies all sort of "geezer" style :-
>
> "Naaah mate - you must has missed them -theres loads in there, but theyre
all
> TP's innit"
>
> So sifted through about 5,000 slabs of pure utter luther vandross crap to
> find about 25 old skool'ish' tunes (not 1,800!) and at £3 a time, i only
> bought 9 as the other were complete crap(anticapella, rozalla etc) to have
> something to go home with!!
>
> Still Numb
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Subject: (oldschool) Oldskool night in Cambridge

8th February sees myself and Deluxe back to back, with a 92/3 set from
Slipmatt too!

More details soon, anyone up for it?
:)

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there abouts? gotta save some cash for the rrrrrrrraindance event for mike
W's birthday.


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> 8th February sees myself and Deluxe back to back, with a 92/3 set from
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> More details soon, anyone up for it?
> :)
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> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Cheers Gazza your mail made me laugh

Really miss sifting through piles of crap looking records in the hope, and 
it does happen, that you will stumble on a bargain.

I noticed you sold a large bunldle of crap (7" to boot) on ebay for a couple 
of hundred readies - staggered me to be honest.

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Subject: (oldschool) Advice Please / Wanted...


Several things here:

1/. Trying to reduce my wants list and wanting sound clips so I can have a 
listen and decide if I really want it. Don't need the whole tune just 30secs 
or so. This covers anything from early acid house up to recent'ish techno. I 
use Groovetech but can u peeps recommend me some more sites?


2/. How much is Listen to the Basstone (Tam Tam) worth.... Liam Howletts 
first production jobby? And should I flog/swap or hold onto.

How much is World of Technohead - Out Of Control (prt 3) worth and does 
anyone want?

3/. Anyone got the following for swap/sale:

Paris Grey / KMS - Don't Lead Me / The Sound (Network)
LE Bass - Acid Bitch
Kechia Jenkins - I Need Somebody
MLK Project - I Have A Dream
MArk Summers - Melt your Body
Reese - Just Want Another Chance
89 Revival Records - Your Love
TYree - Acid Crash
Sky Master - Shooting Stars (Offshoot)
UNderworld - Rez
Orbital - Belfast / Wasted
Another Level vs RIP Groove (apologies)
Rob Base &... - It Takes 2

Please send me your wants list if you have, or price.

cheers

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Yes I've lost the motivation for it - too much wasted effort and million
dead ends to chance upon the real hauls. Too much like hard work - lol.

Steve
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> happens to me all the time that does!!
>
>
>
> A friend gave me the number of some geezer with 9,000 tunes for sale for
> £3.5k - apparently 20& old skool hardcore (1,800 tunes -worth £3.5k
alone!!)
>
> So creaming my pants, i drive round with huge anticipation of finding 2
> extreme, 2 copies of seal blame, 3 finest illusions tango projects etc..
as
> the guy "used to be on the subbase, moving shadow formation mailing lists
> -all tps an promos - i was so excited
>
> Thebest bit was that after going thru the first 10 boxes of 250, Checking
cat
> nos on whites etc, I said to the guy, well where are all the moving shadow
n
> subbase tps etc.  To which he replied "they must be in one of the back
> boxes", so we looked through all the boxes and each time it was "Oh this
must
> be one of the boxes - or maybe this one"
>
> Once we had finished looking though, There were none - So, all confused, i
> look at this guy and say, well theres no old skool or jungle in here, not
at
> all?  To which he replies all sort of "geezer" style :-
>
> "Naaah mate - you must has missed them -theres loads in there, but theyre
all
> TP's innit"
>
> So sifted through about 5,000 slabs of pure utter luther vandross crap to
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The thing was is that even after looking thru it - checking all the cat no's, 
and discovering there werent any old skool tunes - the guy was still trying 
to convince me that it was chocabloc with old skool?? -i was like - 
"No.....it isnt -why the f*ck are you saying it is -we just looked thru it 
-it isnt!"

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Subject: (oldschool) tune release date if poss ??

anyone got any ideas as to when the high contrast
remix of papau new guinea is gonna be released ???









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doesnt have one, its still dubplate only as far as im aware

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arghhh they better bloody release it !!
it`s crying out to be cained lol









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Subject: (oldschool) does anyone live near DJ shimano?

If so -can you throw a brick thru his winda with a note attached saying 
"where the F*ck is my FP2"

Alternativelly if you know him well pass on this message

Four months for a tune is takin the P*ss you fkin loafer -stop burnin so much 
ting and send me the tune ya bloodclot :-)

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Hmmmmm been hearing some very amusing stories about this character. I seem
to know him quite well and have spoken to him many times on the net and on
the phone. unfortunatley he has this weird fascination of skanking people. i
spoke to Jackpot the other day and he warned me about his antics. He bought
a tune off me on ebay and said he'd meet up with me to pick up the tune. As
of yet he hasn't returned my calls and refuses to answer the phone to me!!!
I think he's  just one of them scam artists that is just such a low life i
really don't want to have to deal with again!!! I just hope he proves me
wrong!!!



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> If so -can you throw a brick thru his winda with a note attached saying
> "where the F*ck is my FP2"
>
> Alternativelly if you know him well pass on this message
>
> Four months for a tune is takin the P*ss you fkin loafer -stop burnin so
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> ting and send me the tune ya bloodclot :-)
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> Gazza
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I really don't understand how you guys manage to remain solvent. i only hunt
for specific tunes that are on my wants list. i follow many blocked pathways
all the time but not on this type of scale. i would just end up losing my
rag and laying the c**t out where he stood!!! People that waste my time
usually end up paying for it.



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> The thing was is that even after looking thru it - checking all the cat
no's,
> and discovering there werent any old skool tunes - the guy was still
trying
> to convince me that it was chocabloc with old skool?? -i was like -
> "No.....it isnt -why the f*ck are you saying it is -we just looked thru it
> -it isnt!"
>
> - I know im a bit of a space cadet but he was taking me for the biggest
mug
> in the universe
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> W*nker
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Yes Yes will be checking this out, will probably bring the Mrs along, can
you drop a bit of Britney Spears for her Martyn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chance
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> 8th February sees myself and Deluxe back to back, with a 92/3 set from
> Slipmatt too!
>
> More details soon, anyone up for it?
> :)
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
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> I have known the bloke since 1995 or so.
> He used to play on various pirate stations with me.
> He used to go under the names Fader & Unique.
> I=B9ve never liked the bloke.
> I=B9ve got his address somewhere and mobile as well I think.....
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>=20
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> Hmmmmm been hearing some very amusing stories about this character. I see=
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. i
> spoke to Jackpot the other day and he warned me about his antics. He boug=
ht
> a tune off me on ebay and said he'd meet up with me to pick up the tune. =
As
> of yet he hasn't returned my calls and refuses to answer the phone to me!=
!!
> I think he's  just one of them scam artists that is just such a low life =
i
> really don't want to have to deal with again!!! I just hope he proves me
> wrong!!!
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>=20
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>=20
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>> > "where the F*ck is my FP2"
>> >
>> > Alternativelly if you know him well pass on this message
>> >
>> > Four months for a tune is takin the P*ss you fkin loafer -stop burnin =
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> much
>> > ting and send me the tune ya bloodclot :-)
>> >
>> > Gazza
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) does anyone live near DJ shimano?

well i did a trade with him -My copy of the core for foul play vol2

Its been some while now - i dont think hes a deliberate skank - just smokes 
too much weed and doesnt get anything done till the point where its 
embarrasing for him to contact someone after 4 months

I


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) does anyone live near DJ shimano?

he's part of the mngt of a pirate radio station too.

I've also heard of his tune skanking antics as well.

Steve
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well i did a trade with him -My copy of the core for foul play vol2

Its been some while now - i dont think hes a deliberate skank - just smokes
too much weed and doesnt get anything done till the point where its
embarrasing for him to contact someone after 4 months

I


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Subject: (oldschool) how prices vary

Oh how prices vary.
Kid Unknown - Nightmare, a wicked wicked tune.
On www.htrax.co.uk only =A310
On www.classictrax.co.uk, only =A325
On ebay, only =A36, a bargain, bought by me!


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) how prices vary

There are always bargains on E-bay cause its ABSOLUTELTY RANDOM.

I spoke to someone today who sold IMP004 Higher Now/On My Own - DJ
Seduction - the poor sod only got £13 when it normally goes for well over
£30 - totally inexplicable - there will be another copy on within a couple
of weeks which will get £30+

In terms of Classic Tracks - what were u expecting.

Steve
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Oh how prices vary.
Kid Unknown - Nightmare, a wicked wicked tune.
On www.htrax.co.uk only £10
On www.classictrax.co.uk, only £25
On ebay, only £6, a bargain, bought by me!


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) how prices vary

>>>In terms of Classic Tracks - what were u expecting.

I agree,  i wouldn't pay more than £6 quid for that.  Wicked tune,  but
loads of copies pressed

Hard To Find & Classic Trax are just fishing ...


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There are always bargains on E-bay cause its ABSOLUTELTY RANDOM.

I spoke to someone today who sold IMP004 Higher Now/On My Own - DJ
Seduction - the poor sod only got £13 when it normally goes for well over
£30 - totally inexplicable - there will be another copy on within a couple
of weeks which will get £30+

In terms of Classic Tracks - what were u expecting.

Steve
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Oh how prices vary.
Kid Unknown - Nightmare, a wicked wicked tune.
On www.htrax.co.uk only £10
On www.classictrax.co.uk, only £25
On ebay, only £6, a bargain, bought by me!



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He's got no Britney Spears, but he DOES have the Cheeky Girls on =
mp3.....

This is not a fuckin fake!

DJ Deluxe

www.kniteforce.co.uk

Quote of the month - "Spoon it Dave"
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  Yes Yes will be checking this out, will probably bring the Mrs along, =
can
  you drop a bit of Britney Spears for her Martyn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  Chance
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15 tunes for sale
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> >>>In terms of Classic Tracks - what were u expecting.

Not always so!
Some times afew slip thru the net, I got a near mint copy of Sooth my soul
(RBRSAFE1) off Lee and it was only 8 quid hahahah!

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Subject: (oldschool) Very unknown, any ideas ?

This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a copy.
Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's Sesame
Street as the next track.

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Subject: (oldschool) C.J. BOLLAND - STARSHIP UNIVERSE EP

C.J. BOLLAND
STARSHIP UNIVERSE EP (LIMITED PRESS No.0506) DOUBLE PACK (MINT!)
LIARX 22

 
ebay item No. 2505006877 

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Subject: (oldschool) SnowJoke




2 Snowmen standing in a garden, one says to the other "Can you smell 
carrots?"

Ok Ok i'm off work because of the snow and i was bored.






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Does anyone have thsi up for sale? Go ooooooooooooooooooooon

Vibes & Wishdockta - Passion

Cheers, Al Innes
TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
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Subject: (oldschool) Has anyone got mp3s of tape riffs

Im after a bundle of tape riffs on mp3 - i dont know if anyones got a small 
collection they would burn to cdr for me - i dont mind paying for it or 
trading some vinyl

especially wanted stuff :- all the fantazia summertimes, Tribal gathering 
jungle tent, any fantazia west point/second sight -any early club obsession,  
- basically -anything late 91 to mid 93!

Only half decent quality recording though :-)

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Subject: (oldschool) How did darth vader know what luke sywalker was getting for christ

How did darth vader know what luke sywalker was getting for christmas???


scroll down...









because he had felt his presents

hurhurhurhurhur

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Hi mate, encoding all my fantazia tapes as we speak ! Weird.
I'll mail you a list later.

duncan

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especially wanted stuff :- all the fantazia summertimes, Tribal
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- basically -anything late 91 to mid 93!

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Allo,

Just seen your mail to the Old Skool list, do you fancy a trade
(FTP?) - I've got about 90GB of albums on my hard drive if you fancy.

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You da man Duncan :-) 

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file not found

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> This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a copy.
> Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's Sesame
> Street as the next track.
> 
> So here goes >>>>>>
> 
> http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.mp3
> 
> If you have a copy please mail me.
> 
> Duncan
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sound good ;)


> This ones been bugging me for years, its shit, but I still want a copy.
> Came out mid '92 as the tape I have it on also has Smartie's Sesame
> Street as the next track.
> 
> So here goes >>>>>>
> 
> http://www.duncandettmer.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/images/forsale/unknown.mp3
> 
> If you have a copy please mail me.
> 
> Duncan
> 


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Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4

i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)

anyone?

cheers,
adam (exT)
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That Parks & Wilson mix...around 40:00, right after the Playing with
Knives track.  It has these samples: "Can't stop...i can't stop"
"loooove".

" Life is a flower.  Some people think its a dandelioin.  You can't
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Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 07:15:24 -0000
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion

you might have to start saving,e-bay is the best place but its normally
£50-£100+.
there are black labeled copies,some say m/s promos some say bootleg these
are a bit cheaper £30+.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 4:58 AM
Subject: (oldschool) WTB: Finest Illusion


> looking for, Foul Play - Finest Illusion - Section 5 #4
>
> i'll give you 20 squid for it.. maybe 30 if it's mint  ;)
>
> anyone?
>
> cheers,
> adam (exT)
> http://electros.dhs.org
>
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