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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: Subject: Impossible searches...

> on 1/10/02 12:06 PM, andy gugs at g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> NRG - Never Lost his Hardcore (I am not paying 20quid and I do not want the
> "top banana" repress FFS)
> 
> Anyway all those tunes are all pissing me off and, like the man said, one
> day I will own a copy. Anyone help?

Ive got a double copy of this Andy. Unless you can get me a 12incher or DMS
- Vengance (Prod House) or Two Dark Troopers - I Wanna Be Your Lover
(Basement #20) then it's staying right here.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Little Known Facts?

9/30/2002 7:55:03 AM, pukka <pukka@rogers.com> wrote:

>dj sy is part of garage duo trick or treat? 0;)

Yup, Sy & Unknown = Trick Or Treat

:)



>Paul Waight wrote:
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>> Mark Williams, one half of M&M on Suburban Base and part of Project One, has
>> been producing purist techno since about 1997, has had releases on Billy
>> Nasty's Tortured label and Swedish label Djupt as well as running two labels
>> Artificial Vinyl & Dark House Music, the latter one experiencing quite a bit
>> of success. He plays out regularly in London, he's pretty good too.
>>
>> >Chris Duckenfield, owner of SWAG records, one of the uk's big house labels,
>> >was the old skool sheff DJ Asterix in space, from the start of that altern8
>> >tune "Infiltrate 202 (The Altern8 Vs Asterix & Space Remix)"
>> >
>> >"yeah check this next track aat, Wach yer bassbins I'm tellin yer!"
>> >
>> >Wynston Hazel, the producer from Moloko used to be one third of the
>> >Forgemasters!
>> >
>> >One of the other Forgemasters, Pipes, is now the "All seeing I"..
>> >
>> >hmmm
>> >Mucky
>> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding chickens 
teeth..

K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records

You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)


I'll definately pay well for these.

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>Mayday - Sinister / Wiggin (kool kat)


this is another tune that was originally released on Pheerce city, but it's 
been repressed on network/kool kat since the originall, Amazin tune!!

there's a few tunes that wer on Pheerce and didn't get repressed after 
detroit techno swept the world..

Howard, Sanders & Turner - Feel The Music (12") - Pheerce City

is another one that I'm after..

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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool bonanza at cheap prices

my local record shop reflex in sheffield have 
just bought approx 150 oldskool tunes in and are
selling them cheap ( well 8.99 was the max price )

I picked up

satin storm ( yes ! finally !)
pac man - power pill
dj seduction - sub dub ( crazy breaks mix )
dj seduction - Technoid
q -bass - funky hardcore


loadsa orig's like baptised by dub, nookie , ruffige
cru etc in orig sleeves in great nick.  Loads of 
impact back catalogue ...sub dub ( orig mixes )
Some DJ / collector has offloaded some wicked stuff.
Lots of '93 dark tunes as well.  An investor could
make a tidy profit by ebaying them :-)

Most are not on their website yet so give them a call
on 0114-275-9035 before they all go.  If they ask tell
them I sent you and its the 2 boxes of oldskool that
came in yesterday.

Richard


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) new (old) hardcore compilation

once he's researched the idea and knows the score the track listing ain't
gonna look like that - lol

50-1 this idea never happens - dreamer alert - any takers?

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-----Original Message-----
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> Afternoon.
> A friend of mine is preparing a new compilation of hardcore tunes to be
> released commercially. Now don't moan, these will be full length 12"
> tracks on cd and promo vinyl. And yes oldschool list members will be
> able to buy (discounted) the vinyl if they want.
> What he wants to know is which PROPER hardcore tunes you guys would like
> to see on a remastered cd.
> He has an idea already, mainly by watching ebay and which tunes are
> going for stupid amounts of cash, and for a love of the scene. So here
> is your chance to get a proper hardcore compilation out in the shops.
>
> Side A - Hardcore - happy breakbeat

Not necessarily in this order:

>
> 1. BLAME - Music Takes You (Seal promo mix)
> 2. Sunshine Productions-Above the Clouds (DJ Ham '97 remix) (it's not
exactly oldskool, but it's more '92-ish 'ardkore, whereas the original is
more early happy hardcore)- JAL34
> 3. Messiah-Temple of Dreams (not really breakbeat though)- Kickin'
> 4. Altern-8-Brutal-8-E- Network
> 5. DMS-SOS (Midnight Mix)- PNT046
> 6. Yolk-Skanky Fry- Ruff Beat 003
> 7. Project 1-Roughneck- RSN22
> 8. Alcan Warriors-Maniac- D-Zone 18
> 9. Elevation-Can You Feel It- Mute 3
> 10. Baby D-Let Me Be Your Fantasy (Acen in Wonderland Remix)- Production
House
11. Sonz of a Loop Da Loop Era-Peace & Loveism- Subbase

>
> Side B - Hardcore - dark/jungle tekno
>
> 1. Bodysnatch - Euphony (kuff mix (just for you london remix'92))
> 2. Liquid-Liquid Is Liquid-  XL
> 3. Luna C-I Know U (D'Cruz Remix)-  KF002
> 4. Weekend Rush-Can't Stop The Pirates- Boogie Beat
> 5. NRG-He never Lost His Hardcore
> 6. Omni Trio-Renegade Snares - Moving Shadow
> 7. Q Project-Champion Sound
> 8.
> 9.
> 10.
>
> Fill in the blanks people.
>



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Re: Subject: Impossible searches...

I'll provide the Vengeance if you need one for this swap

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-----Original Message-----
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> on 1/10/02 12:06 PM, andy gugs at g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> NRG - Never Lost his Hardcore (I am not paying 20quid and I do not want
the
> "top banana" repress FFS)
>
> Anyway all those tunes are all pissing me off and, like the man said, one
> day I will own a copy. Anyone help?

Ive got a double copy of this Andy. Unless you can get me a 12incher or DMS
- Vengance (Prod House) or Two Dark Troopers - I Wanna Be Your Lover
(Basement #20) then it's staying right here.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) updated trades list

hi there

i would trade dope16 for aurora's sunshine ep.

cheers
felix


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> alex reece- pulp fiction- metalheadz N/M
> underground software- different ting- reinforced #26
> krome + time- sound is for the underground remix- subbase
> nasty remix- hamster recs
> seduction- higher noe / my own- impact #4
> bounty killer- down in the ghetto- greensleeves
> studio 2 ep- shy fx- 4 tracker!!
> dj trace 001 - white label- samples enya 'sail away'
> aurora- sunshine ep- adrenalin recs
> kemet crew- the seed / the box re-opens- seed 1
> remarc- sound murderer / flip is damamged tho- whitehouse
> dead dred- dred bass- ms 41 (incs pict cover)**mint**
> family foundation- express yourself- 380 recs + orig sleeve
> SUAD- raving i'm raving + orig sleeve **mint**
> ramos- phantasm- hectic
> looking good recs #33
> jb- stand easy- b2b #8 white label
> peshay- miles from home- mo wax white label
> wishdokta- your love for 93- dok recs (went for over £30 a few moths back
on
> ebay)
> POT- vol 2- Fresh Kut recs
> mk 13- feel the magic ep- Sonic sounds recs 3
> eze g- worlds of confusion remixes- soundscape recs
>
> wants:
> www.jungletekno.com/wants.htm
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) updated trades list

dope 16 should be arriving this wek hopefully, if it doesn't i'll let you
know.


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> hi there
>
> i would trade dope16 for aurora's sunshine ep.
>
> cheers
> felix
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> > alex reece- pulp fiction- metalheadz N/M
> > underground software- different ting- reinforced #26
> > krome + time- sound is for the underground remix- subbase
> > nasty remix- hamster recs
> > seduction- higher noe / my own- impact #4
> > bounty killer- down in the ghetto- greensleeves
> > studio 2 ep- shy fx- 4 tracker!!
> > dj trace 001 - white label- samples enya 'sail away'
> > aurora- sunshine ep- adrenalin recs
> > kemet crew- the seed / the box re-opens- seed 1
> > remarc- sound murderer / flip is damamged tho- whitehouse
> > dead dred- dred bass- ms 41 (incs pict cover)**mint**
> > family foundation- express yourself- 380 recs + orig sleeve
> > SUAD- raving i'm raving + orig sleeve **mint**
> > ramos- phantasm- hectic
> > looking good recs #33
> > jb- stand easy- b2b #8 white label
> > peshay- miles from home- mo wax white label
> > wishdokta- your love for 93- dok recs (went for over £30 a few moths
back
> on
> > ebay)
> > POT- vol 2- Fresh Kut recs
> > mk 13- feel the magic ep- Sonic sounds recs 3
> > eze g- worlds of confusion remixes- soundscape recs
> >
> > wants:
> > www.jungletekno.com/wants.htm
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

Yeah, the 1982 Patrick Cowley mix of Donna Summer's 'I Feel Love' still
stands out as one of the most pioneering records of its time for me !!

Ive got an rm of the shorter version on my site. The 17 minute version just
took up too much space !  ;o)

http://www.top-tuna.com/tunes/ifeellove.rm
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Two Tons of Fun-Got the Feeling (Patrick Cowley Remix)
There're supposedly 2 different pressings, and it's apparently not that
rare...but I've been searching for it since '99 and I've never seen it for
sale anywhere, not even on Ebay, not even HTFR. It's a late-70s disco
choon with a huge techy bassline and some funky synths and guitars
(Cowley's well known for funky synth bits).


> Surely everyone suffers from this...there's tunes that you desperately
want,
> but have never ever seen for sale or for trade anywhere. And you're
> resigning yourself to the fact you probably never will. What are they? I
> want to try and reassure myself that one day I'll find a copy of WORLD
> DOMINANCE - Compression!!!
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

I got some news for ya !

Hilton at HTRAX got a copy of the Fierce Rulin Diva tune for 8 quid.

http://www.htax.co.uk

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> one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding
chickens
> teeth..
>
> K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records
>
> You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)
>
>
> I'll definately pay well for these.
>
> cheers
> Mucky
>
>
>
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From oldschool-return-80430-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Oct 01 11:54:24 2002
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Subject: (oldschool) RE: 

I think you've been had Adrian. This is a pile of bullshit and the file
noted is a required file by your system - you will experience problems if
you delete it.

So you don't get caught out again - Norton site is normally updated with a
response to a new virus in a matter of hours - they are always on the ball.

Steve
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Subject:



I'm told this is just a nuisance, but it is a virus
and I found that I was infected with it.

The 'teddy' virus was passed on to my computer after
receiving an email.  Please check your own system - as
you are in my address book.
The virus lays dormant for 14 days so you have time to

remove it.Please follow instructions below.
The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by
Norton or McAfee anti-virus systems. It sits quietly
for 14 days before damaging the system.
It is sent automatically by messanger and by the
address book, whether or not you sent e-mails to the
contacts.
Here is how to check for the virus and get rid of it.
1. Go to start, find or search option.
2. In the files/folders option, write the name
jdbgmgr.exe
3. Be sure you search your C drive and any other
drives you may have
4. Click "find now"
5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name
jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT!!
6. Go to edit, choose "select all" to highlight the
file without opening it
7.Now go to File and select Delete. It will then go
into the recycle bin
8. Go to the recycle bin & delete it there as well.
IF YOU FIND THIS VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL PEOPLE IN
YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO THEY CAN FOLLOW THE ABOVE
PROCEDURES
1. Open a new email message
2. Click on address book next to "TO"
3. Click every name and add it to "BCC"
4. Copy this message, paste to e-mail, enter subject
and send



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Subject: (oldschool) D-Zone

Hi
is there anyone on the list who has D-Zone 27 and could confirm me the info?

D-Zone 27 / Happy 3 : Voice Of The Devil (Mr Amoeba & Egg Nogg) - Ruffneck
Style, Sold Ya Soul

I can't believe that it's so rare?! :-/

Thank you!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

oh you legend!

mmmmmm tune... my tune :)

cheers m8!
Mucky

>From: "AlexR" <alexr1210@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...
>Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:44:30 +0100
>
>I got some news for ya !
>
>Hilton at HTRAX got a copy of the Fierce Rulin Diva tune for 8 quid.
>
>http://www.htax.co.uk
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Bobert Holeness" <j_mucky@hotmail.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 9:35 AM
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...
>
>
> > one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding
>chickens
> > teeth..
> >
> > K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records
> >
> > You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)
> >
> >
> > I'll definately pay well for these.
> >
> > cheers
> > Mucky
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RE:

A while ago, I fell for one of these too. Always best to check it out b4 u 
take action.

http://securityresponse.symantec.com

for up to date viri information\fixes\encyclopedia  etc.etc...



>From: "DJ Moody" <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: "Adrian T" >Subject: (oldschool) RE: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 12:53:09 
>+0100
>
>I think you've been had Adrian. This is a pile of bullshit and the file
>noted is a required file by your system - you will experience problems if
>you delete it.
>
>So you don't get caught out again - Norton site is normally updated with a
>response to a new virus in a matter of hours - they are always on the ball.
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adrian T [mailto:aydo303@hotmail.com]
>Sent: 01 October 2002 12:45
>To: innerst891@aol.com; andymac1880@vizzavi.net;
>anna@jacksons1234.fslife.co.uk; cnsdesign@bigpond.com;
>pints10@hotmail.com; djmoody@oldskoolmadness.com; d-vo@lycos.com;
>iancs@ozemail.com.au; loolee69@yahoo.com.au; mtarozzi@bigpond.net.au;
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>RLearner@aol.com; onewhoyawns@hotmail.com; willi@iinet.net.au
>Subject:
>
>
>
>I'm told this is just a nuisance, but it is a virus
>and I found that I was infected with it.
>
>The 'teddy' virus was passed on to my computer after
>receiving an email.  Please check your own system - as
>you are in my address book.
>The virus lays dormant for 14 days so you have time to
>
>remove it.Please follow instructions below.
>The virus (called jdbgmgr.exe) is not detected by
>Norton or McAfee anti-virus systems. It sits quietly
>for 14 days before damaging the system.
>It is sent automatically by messanger and by the
>address book, whether or not you sent e-mails to the
>contacts.
>Here is how to check for the virus and get rid of it.
>1. Go to start, find or search option.
>2. In the files/folders option, write the name
>jdbgmgr.exe
>3. Be sure you search your C drive and any other
>drives you may have
>4. Click "find now"
>5. The virus has a teddy bear icon with the name
>jdbgmgr.exe DO NOT OPEN IT!!
>6. Go to edit, choose "select all" to highlight the
>file without opening it
>7.Now go to File and select Delete. It will then go
>into the recycle bin
>8. Go to the recycle bin & delete it there as well.
>IF YOU FIND THIS VIRUS YOU MUST CONTACT ALL PEOPLE IN
>YOUR ADDRESS BOOK SO THEY CAN FOLLOW THE ABOVE
>PROCEDURES
>1. Open a new email message
>2. Click on address book next to "TO"
>3. Click every name and add it to "BCC"
>4. Copy this message, paste to e-mail, enter subject
>and send
>
>



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At lat you might say. After a lot of teething problems I've finally got =
them ready to roll. I'm burining the first one as i type this!!! Just =
got to go down the printers tomorrow and pick up my sleeves for the =
DVD!!!

details:

http://www.jungletekno.com/amnesia1.GIF =
http://www.jungletekno.com/amnesia2.GIF

1hr 57 mins running time

DJ's
Fabio
Top Buzz
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Grooverider
Jumpin Jack Frost
Carl Cox

PA's
Prodigy
Dream Frequency


Mc's
Loud and Nasty
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Lenny
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Prices:

=A310 UK (all inclusive)
=A312 Rest of the World

The DVD will be fully dj 'chapter marked' with a menu screen at the =
start. You will not be disappointed!!!=20

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ez mate, dvd's are nearly ready to roll. here's all the details:

http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4370

----- Original Message -----
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> If you do end up doing it then Ill have a copy off you but I wont pay any
> more than a tenner all in with p+p included.
>
>
>
> Nat.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colin Dee" <colindee@iprimus.com.au>
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> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 5:35 PM
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>
>
> > > I recently got my paws on a video from Amnesia House event June or
July
> > > 1992. It's the one where the promoter guy got married!!!
> >
> > This would be the Book of Love I take it?!
> >
> > Colin Dee.
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Wasn't that the guy who ran Energy? Quentin Chambers?

>I ran into one of the guys who was in the Cleptomaniacs(supposedly),called 
>(DJ)Tin Tin Chambers - thought he was a right wanker!
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>DJ Onefinger - House Fucker (missile original only)

Seen this once, the remixes are ten a penny, for some bizarre reason I never 
picked it up either *smacks head*

>Holy Noise - Father Forgive Them.....I honestly do not belive that this 
>song can be in that much demand.

Seen this a few times...normally gets put in the gabba sections at shops cos 
it's Paul Elstak...if I see one I'll grab it for ya mate


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

Fierce ruling diva was licensed in the UK on React
I would imagine there are UK copies of you gotta believe out there
If you're really after the Dutch copy only, it's on Lower East Side
Records.

---chris


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Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:35 am
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one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding
chickens 
teeth..

K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records

You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)


I'll definately pay well for these.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

Ive never seen EPS - Follow the leader - Symphony Sounds, my most wanted
tune :(

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Re: Subject: Impossible searches...

i can confirm that this one exists :-

Dr Kevorkian - Suicide Machine EP (Hardwax)

cos i've got it Andy,  but not for sale though sry mate :)

Mike

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this as a lesson in ebaying ! " - ANON EBAY BIDDER


-----Original Message-----
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"Surely everyone suffers from this...there's tunes that you desperately
want,
but have never ever seen for sale or for trade anywhere. And you're
resigning yourself to the fact you probably never will. What are they? I
want to try and reassure myself that one day I'll find a copy of WORLD
DOMINANCE - Compression!!!"


I hear that mate, took me:

10 yrs to get:  a 1990 Ratpack tune (white.. dunno name..cat Ratpack
003)

10 yrs to get:  Summer of Love 91 (Easy Groove white)

11 yrs to get:  M & H Band: Popcorn 87 mix

12 yrs to get: Boy George - No Clause 28 (matey mix)oh dear

I am currently very pissed of with the following tunes for being too hard or
expensive to find:

Roots & Soul - Mr Kirk Meets Bass (white)
LE Bass - Acid Bitch (Westbrook?)
Donna Summer - I feel loved (green velvet mix)
Dr Kevorkian - Suicide Machine EP (Hardwax)
Autechre - Cavity Job (Hardcore)
Xtra Bass - Step to the Rhythm (Westbrook again...bastards why did'ent they
press more?)
Mayday - Sinister / Wiggin (kool kat)
Risque III - Essence of a Dream (Stride/Record Review)
Reese - Just Want Another Chance (incognito)
NRG - Never Lost his Hardcore (I am not paying 20quid and I do not want the
"top banana" repress FFS)
Technotika - Tiger Trance (submerge)
DJ Onefinger - House Fucker (missile original only)
Tyree - Acid Crash (dance mania)
Saint Etienne - Only Love....Andy Weatherall mix

and for some bizarre, cosmic conspiracy reason:

Holy Noise - Father Forgive Them.....I honestly do not belive that this song
can be in that much demand.

Anyway all those tunes are all pissing me off and, like the man said, one
day I will own a copy. Anyone help?

cheers

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

it definitely exists Martyn :)

Oh yeah... they were all white labels with the catelogue : SYMPHONY 002.

Its NOT 100% certain that its a Symphony Sounds release ,  but the fact that
this is the only gap in the Symphony Sounds discography makes me think that
its pretty likely.  Except... all the other Symphony Sounds had  SYM  as the
catelogue no.

Whatever, just don't go round looking for a Symphony Sounds Logo because you
won't find it that way !

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
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Ive never seen EPS - Follow the leader - Symphony Sounds, my most wanted
tune :(

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: (oldschool) anyone got a spare of this....


DOUBLE H-
SWINGING IN THE TREES EP- JUMP UP / HOW DARK IT IS / NOISE LEVEL 1 / REACH
FOR
THE STARS
Global Dance recs GDRX 8



aaaaah gowaaaan...


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Subject: (oldschool) Fun to have while bored as fuck...

...after hearing about all the "bootleg mash-up"s being big news right
now, where the vocals of one big track get plastered over the beat of
another big track, I've been plundering Soulseek for acapellas and
throwing them over happy hardcore tunes.  So far, having lots of fun
splitting Rebel Alliance "Sometimes" with Jennifer Lopez & Ja Rule "I'm
Real".  That acapella also worked rather well with Timespan "Original Bad
Boy Style".  :)

Take care,
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Subject: (oldschool) Fwd: oLd sKoOl HaRdCoRe & JunGLe

Figured you guys might like this.  :)

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Subject: (oldschool) Acen

Aftyer seening this on Juno and a nudge from Purity Control (cheers for the
tunes fella) I thought you might wanna listen to this. Pity it doesnt have
more of a soundbite on their but sounds nice enuff all the same. After all,
with Acen, you cant go that wrong really. Good use of Limb by Limb.

ACEN: Licka EP (Unreal Recordings) (MP3) - Breakbeat/Hip-Hop/Funk
=A0 =A0 =A0 12" promo: Licka (original mix, remix)/Androids Who Dream/Moonrider
(UNREAL 3) [4.99]

<http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF101623.mp3>

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Acen

got it a few weeks ago, wikked tune  :)



10/2/2002 2:34:00 AM, Colin Dee <colindee@iprimus.com.au> wrote:

>Aftyer seening this on Juno and a nudge from Purity Control (cheers for the
>tunes fella) I thought you might wanna listen to this. Pity it doesnt have
>more of a soundbite on their but sounds nice enuff all the same. After all,
>with Acen, you cant go that wrong really. Good use of Limb by Limb.
>
>ACEN: Licka EP (Unreal Recordings) (MP3) - Breakbeat/Hip-Hop/Funk
>      12" promo: Licka (original mix, remix)/Androids Who Dream/Moonrider
>(UNREAL 3) [4.99]
>
><http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF101623.mp3>
>
>Colin Dee.
>
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OK before i started DJing, i have absolutely no background in music of any 
sort - i just decided to dive in cuz i loved the music so much

i want to teach myself a bit about keys, chords, scales etc, cuz i know 
*nothing* about this - i can tell by ear, but i don't know the theory, and i 
think it would help the flow of my sets to understand it on that level and 
train my ear better

i remember surfin on to a site run by a crew of jungle/happy hardcore DJs in 
England (one's name was Hattrix, if that rings a bell ??)

on the site was information about keys etc, and they had audio clips of 
piano hardcore tunes, etc, and would explain what key is was composed in, 
etc

these audio file examples made it much much easier for me to grasp, cuz i 
could relate them and the keys to similar records in my collection

anyway i have no idea if that site is still around, (anyone link me to it if 
you know?) but if you can think of any good online resource, ideally musical 
theory related to electronic music, but any good resource will do

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From: Colin Dee <colindee@iprimus.com.au>

>on 1/10/02 12:06 PM, andy gugs at g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>NRG - Never Lost his Hardcore (I am not paying 20quid and I do not want the
>"top banana" repress FFS)

Ive got a double copy of this Andy. Unless you can get me a 12incher or DMS
- Vengance (Prod House) or Two Dark Troopers - I Wanna Be Your Lover
(Basement #20) then it's staying right here

Nope I ain't colin mate, I just hope you feel happy sitting their down under 
with a prime piece of UK vinyl wasting away!

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From: "Bobert Holeness" <j_mucky@hotmail.com>

>Mayday - Sinister / Wiggin (kool kat)

this is another tune that was originally released on Pheerce city, but it's
been repressed on network/kool kat since the originall, Amazin tune!!

there's a few tunes that wer on Pheerce and didn't get repressed after
detroit techno swept the world..

Howard, Sanders & Turner - Feel The Music (12") - Pheerce City

is another one that I'm after..

Right mate I've actually got that and I'd consider a trade too. However, 
just to confuse matters I have it on Kool Kat (KOOLT 20)..think its a 1988 
track. There's two mixes plus a track called "Want you Back".

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Subject: (oldschool) Aztek! London Someting vid tune ID


this is a long shot, but i donwloaded the London Someting video off the 
Jungle Tekno site - do you know, or anyone else who has dl-ed the video, 
what the tune is playing at the beginning, specifically around the one 
minute mark ?...

tune!

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I'll provide the Vengeance if you need one for this swap

Thats very kind of you mate, send me yer wants although I have "other 
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From: "Paul Waight" <zykotik@hotmail.com>


>DJ Onefinger - House Fucker (missile original only)

Seen this once, the remixes are ten a penny, for some bizarre reason I never
picked it up either *smacks head*

I know mate, me too its a real bitch. How come so few were pressed? The 
Heckman mix is OK but not a shout on the original.

>Holy Noise - Father Forgive Them.....I honestly do not belive that this 
>song can be in that much demand.

Seen this a few times...normally gets put in the gabba sections at shops cos
it's Paul Elstak...if I see one I'll grab it for ya mate

be grateful mate, can't be that desirable can it.

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i can confirm that this one exists :-

Dr Kevorkian - Suicide Machine EP (Hardwax)

cos i've got it Andy,  but not for sale though sry mate :)


well thats just dandy mate, although at least someones got it. Had a 
pleasing row with Hardtogetrippedofmore a while back as they had a copy for 
sale for a fiver. Wacked a order on instantly, with Fed Ex postage no less 
and what a surprise did it turn up, did it fuck!

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From: "Bobert Holeness" <j_mucky@hotmail.com>

one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding chickens
teeth..

K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records\

you'll be very feckin lucky mate

You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)

do you mean the class original..."got to believe in something why no believe 
it me"? (on that tape you sent me). Just been repressed on one of those 
"classic house" 12"s. On the flip is "the sun rising"...original and dub 
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I still can't find "Dub War", "Iron Man" - Search & Destroy, or "Maggie's Last Party ("Acid Party Let's Have A Party")" - VIM (Oak Lawn Records) anywhere besides a million 
dollars on eBay.

I dont think I've ever even SEEN Maggie's Last Party or Iron Man on eBay ever.

oh well.

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Well all sounds good to me. You want to trade direct with me or a bizzare,
axis of love triangle with Andy - Moody - Colin Dee?

Cheers,
Colin Dee.

on 1/10/02 6:35 PM, DJ Moody at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com wrote:

> I'll provide the Vengeance if you need one for this swap
> 
> Steve
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
>> on 1/10/02 12:06 PM, andy gugs at g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> NRG - Never Lost his Hardcore (I am not paying 20quid and I do not want
> the
>> "top banana" repress FFS)
>> 
>> Anyway all those tunes are all pissing me off and, like the man said, one
>> day I will own a copy. Anyone help?
> 
> Ive got a double copy of this Andy. Unless you can get me a 12incher or DMS
> - Vengance (Prod House) or Two Dark Troopers - I Wanna Be Your Lover
> (Basement #20) then it's staying right here.
> 
> Colin Dee.
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I got it from vinyl addiction the other day.

One track is a breaks remix of Trip to the moon pt 3, the other tracks
aren't bad. But not as good as a lot of nu skool stuff Ive heard.


Peter Smith



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Subject: (oldschool) Acen

Aftyer seening this on Juno and a nudge from Purity Control (cheers for =
the
tunes fella) I thought you might wanna listen to this. Pity it doesnt =
have
more of a soundbite on their but sounds nice enuff all the same. After =
all,
with Acen, you cant go that wrong really. Good use of Limb by Limb.

ACEN: Licka EP (Unreal Recordings) (MP3) - Breakbeat/Hip-Hop/Funk
=A0 =A0 =A0 12" promo: Licka (original mix, remix)/Androids Who =
Dream/Moonrider
(UNREAL 3) [4.99]

<http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF101623.mp3>

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> Ive got a double copy of this Andy. Unless you can get me a 12incher or DMS
> - Vengance (Prod House) or Two Dark Troopers - I Wanna Be Your Lover
> (Basement #20) then it's staying right here
> 
> Nope I ain't colin mate, I just hope you feel happy sitting their down under
> with a prime piece of UK vinyl wasting away!
> 
> andrew

Whilst it is still in its orignal *record* format, it's never a waste ;)
Seems Moody is willing to part with Vengance to help us both out. You wanna
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Subject: (oldschool) Mixtape of the Week!  On-E - Live at NASA NYE 92/93

Here we go again!  Some old skool hardcore biznesssssssssssss, lots of the Belgian 4beat stuff that was sporadically around at the time.  Wish I was there for this one!  This tape 
is pretty sloppy, cause hey, no one in the US was any good at that time, hahaha, but it's still wikked.

ON-E - LIVE AT NASA NYE 92/93

http://www.hardcoreuproar.com/music/

http://www.hardcoreuproar.com/music/On-E_-_Live_at_NASA_-_NYE_92-93_side1.mp3
http://www.hardcoreuproar.com/music/On-E_-_Live_at_NASA_-_NYE_92-93_side2.mp3



Enjoy!!!!!!!!!


Someone else do the track listing!  =P

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Subject: (oldschool) UPLOAD YOUR OWN UNKNOWNS

For those who have got any tunes which need ID'ing , you can very simply 
upload it to our new ID section - no technical knowledge required - just 
choose the soundfile on your PC we upload it for you and host it on our 
server.  

There is a file size limit of 500k which is just about a full length 12" RM 
file or a short MP3

The service is free, i hope you will all use it !!

If anyone has any comments or suggestions on the new site, I would like to 
hear them - especially anything negative - not because I'm a sadist, but if 
theres anything which people dont like then obviously i want to change it.  

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

I realised last night that it's not the tune I',m thinkin of.  I asked him 
to ID a tune, and that's what he told me it was but it's the wrong one.  The 
one I'm wanting is on that tape, it's the tune before 'All for Lee sah' and 
it has a big fat wow woh type bass with dark choir voices.

I've asked for a tracklist but he says he can't remember what he put on. :(

any ideas?

cheers
Mucky


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>From: "Bobert Holeness" <j_mucky@hotmail.com>
>
>one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding 
>chickens
>teeth..
>
>K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records\
>
>you'll be very feckin lucky mate
>
>You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)
>
>do you mean the class original..."got to believe in something why no 
>believe it me"? (on that tape you sent me). Just been repressed on one of 
>those "classic house" 12"s. On the flip is "the sun rising"...original and 
>dub mix.
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

> Its NOT 100% certain that its a Symphony Sounds release ,  but the fact
that
> this is the only gap in the Symphony Sounds discography makes me think
that
> its pretty likely.  Except... all the other Symphony Sounds had  SYM  as
the
> catelogue no.
>
> Whatever, just don't go round looking for a Symphony Sounds Logo because
you
> won't find it that way !

Cheers for the info mate.
As for whites, Ive been known to spend hours trawling thru em just checking
cat numbers!
(What a dedicated trainspotter I am LOL)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) online resource about basic musical theory?

> i remember surfin on to a site run by a crew of jungle/happy hardcore DJs
in
> England (one's name was Hattrix, if that rings a bell ??)

Hattrixx can always be found the Kniteforce forum, post a message there and
you will get plenty of help.
Luna-C (amoungst others) is also online a fair bit and is always willing to
help with the technical studio type questions.
www.kniteforce.co.uk/forums

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Aztek! London Someting vid tune ID

> this is a long shot, but i donwloaded the London Someting video off the
> Jungle Tekno site - do you know, or anyone else who has dl-ed the video,
> what the tune is playing at the beginning, specifically around the one
> minute mark ?...

How about this for a service?!
People on the DNB Arena forum were asking for IDs off it too, so I did a
track listing ;o)

00:00)Bodysnatch - Euphony - Big City
00:40)Appollo 2 - Atlantis (LTJ Bukem remix) - Good Looking
01:20)Prisoner - Mr Fix-it - London Some'ting
02:02)? (Not THC on Awesome)
03:25)? (Not Redrose on Greensleeves)
03:48)Studio 2 - Who jah bless (Remix)- Whitelabel
04:40)Lennie D Ice - We are IE - Reel2Reel
06:45)Roni Size - Music box - Full Cycle
07:30)M Beat - Incredible - Renk (Live PA)
08:02)Higher Sense - Cold fresh air (Remix) - Moving Shadow
08:52)?
09:15)Appollo 2 - Atlantis (LTJ Bukem remix) - Good Looking (Moose MC'ing
clip)
10:13)Tribe of Issachat - Kunta Kinte - Congo Natty
11:08)X-Project - Dubplate 3 - (Congo Natty)
11:24)Tribe of Issachat - Kunta Kinte - Congo Natty
12:06)Dancemaster - Kan u feel it - Grand Laceny
12:22)House tune going into Black Market changes into XLR8 - Wots my code
remix
12:44)?
13:45)Goldie - Saint Angel - FFrr
14:57)4 Hero - Universal love - Selector
16:10)Deep Blue - Helicoptor tune - Moving Shadow
17:05)Slipmatt - Breakin free - Awesome
23:48)Peshay - (?) - Metalheads 002

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) UPLOAD YOUR OWN UNKNOWNS

big up Gazza - i'm gonna upload some now

cheers

Liam


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>For those who have got any tunes which need ID'ing , you can very simply
>upload it to our new ID section - no technical knowledge required - just
>choose the soundfile on your PC we upload it for you and host it on our
>server.
>
>There is a file size limit of 500k which is just about a full length 12" RM
>file or a short MP3
>
>The service is free, i hope you will all use it !!
>
>If anyone has any comments or suggestions on the new site, I would like to
>hear them - especially anything negative - not because I'm a sadist, but if
>theres anything which people dont like then obviously i want to change it.
>
>Regards
>Gazza
>www.bingobertys.co.uk
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Subject: (oldschool) Gazza -re: ID section

hmmm cant find the ID section on your site, but it could well be because i 
am about to falll asleep

cheers

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>big up Gazza - i'm gonna upload some now
>
>cheers
>
>Liam
>
>
>>From: Bingoberty@aol.com
>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: (oldschool) UPLOAD YOUR OWN UNKNOWNS
>>Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 04:26:51 EDT
>>
>>For those who have got any tunes which need ID'ing , you can very simply
>>upload it to our new ID section - no technical knowledge required - just
>>choose the soundfile on your PC we upload it for you and host it on our
>>server.
>>
>>There is a file size limit of 500k which is just about a full length 12" 
>>RM
>>file or a short MP3
>>
>>The service is free, i hope you will all use it !!
>>
>>If anyone has any comments or suggestions on the new site, I would like to
>>hear them - especially anything negative - not because I'm a sadist, but 
>>if
>>theres anything which people dont like then obviously i want to change it.
>>
>>Regards
>>Gazza
>>www.bingobertys.co.uk
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Gazza -re: ID section

Sorry folks I should have pointed out - The ID Section is Under the "AUDIO" 
drop down on the main menu bar - I Might give it its own tab if it become 
popular enough

Gazza

Anyone who experience ANY problems on the site please let me know so i can 
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doh - I dont even know my own URL -  It's bingobertys.co.uk and not .com

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>> you wanted some garage/old skool tune from me.
>> Do you still want them ?

I sent you a cheque a month or two ago but its 
obviously gone walkabout.  Mail me your address
details and I'll send another ASAP.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) deep 94 jungle


recoil mate that would be sweeeeeet, if youve got a wants list let me know 
and ill keep an eye open when im hunting for tunes

DAVID TRIPTREE
6 ROYAL PARK AVENUE
HYDE PARK
LEEDS
LS6 1EY

cheers again

dave t

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>Dave - give me your mailing addy and i will send you off a couple of my mix 
>CDs - lots of deep atmospheric 94 jungle
>
>cheers
>
>Liam
>
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>>Subject: (oldschool) deep 94 jungle Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 12:16:11 +0000
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>>
>>
>>was listening to peshay dreamscape 11 and a few other sets the other day 
>>and reminded me of how much i like this era, really want more sets with 
>>the dreamy deep jungly 94 sound, not too 'mash up' prefferably with no mc, 
>>on tape or even better CD,
>>
>>anyone got any sets that spring to mind? or a set that somone on the list 
>>has done?
>>
>>got loads of tapes to trade, and some vinyl that id be happy to trade for 
>>a load of the sort of stuff im on about,
>>
>>this must be somone on the lists speciality,
>>
>>cheeeeeeeeers
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) UPLOAD YOUR OWN UNKNOWNS

ooh yess !!!!!

Hope you've got plenty of server space  ;-)


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For those who have got any tunes which need ID'ing , you can very simply
upload it to our new ID section - no technical knowledge required - just
choose the soundfile on your PC we upload it for you and host it on our
server.

There is a file size limit of 500k which is just about a full length 12" RM
file or a short MP3

The service is free, i hope you will all use it !!

If anyone has any comments or suggestions on the new site, I would like to
hear them - especially anything negative - not because I'm a sadist, but if
theres anything which people dont like then obviously i want to change it.

Regards
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Aztek! London Someting vid tune ID

yeah, thanks for that Martyn. I saw that i while back and added it to my
site. Wicked stuff. Recoil, You'll have to read it again and look a bit
further down the page!!!!



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> > this is a long shot, but i donwloaded the London Someting video off the
> > Jungle Tekno site - do you know, or anyone else who has dl-ed the video,
> > what the tune is playing at the beginning, specifically around the one
> > minute mark ?...
>
> How about this for a service?!
> People on the DNB Arena forum were asking for IDs off it too, so I did a
> track listing ;o)
>
> 00:00)Bodysnatch - Euphony - Big City
> 00:40)Appollo 2 - Atlantis (LTJ Bukem remix) - Good Looking
> 01:20)Prisoner - Mr Fix-it - London Some'ting
> 02:02)? (Not THC on Awesome)
> 03:25)? (Not Redrose on Greensleeves)
> 03:48)Studio 2 - Who jah bless (Remix)- Whitelabel
> 04:40)Lennie D Ice - We are IE - Reel2Reel
> 06:45)Roni Size - Music box - Full Cycle
> 07:30)M Beat - Incredible - Renk (Live PA)
> 08:02)Higher Sense - Cold fresh air (Remix) - Moving Shadow
> 08:52)?
> 09:15)Appollo 2 - Atlantis (LTJ Bukem remix) - Good Looking (Moose MC'ing
> clip)
> 10:13)Tribe of Issachat - Kunta Kinte - Congo Natty
> 11:08)X-Project - Dubplate 3 - (Congo Natty)
> 11:24)Tribe of Issachat - Kunta Kinte - Congo Natty
> 12:06)Dancemaster - Kan u feel it - Grand Laceny
> 12:22)House tune going into Black Market changes into XLR8 - Wots my code
> remix
> 12:44)?
> 13:45)Goldie - Saint Angel - FFrr
> 14:57)4 Hero - Universal love - Selector
> 16:10)Deep Blue - Helicoptor tune - Moving Shadow
> 17:05)Slipmatt - Breakin free - Awesome
> 23:48)Peshay - (?) - Metalheads 002
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a screwed up catalogue system is the sign of a wicked label!!!
c'mon....brain, de underground, face, lucky spin to name a few of 'em!!!



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> it definitely exists Martyn :)
>
> Oh yeah... they were all white labels with the catelogue : SYMPHONY 002.
>
> Its NOT 100% certain that its a Symphony Sounds release ,  but the fact
that
> this is the only gap in the Symphony Sounds discography makes me think
that
> its pretty likely.  Except... all the other Symphony Sounds had  SYM  as
the
> catelogue no.
>
> Whatever, just don't go round looking for a Symphony Sounds Logo because
you
> won't find it that way !
>
> Mike
>
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> http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
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> Ive never seen EPS - Follow the leader - Symphony Sounds, my most wanted
> tune :(
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not to mention Limited E which has to be the most f**ked up catelogue system
EVER !!!

DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
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a screwed up catalogue system is the sign of a wicked label!!!
c'mon....brain, de underground, face, lucky spin to name a few of 'em!!!




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never liked any of the releases on that label so didn't class it as wicked!!
but yeah they had the most rediculous catlogue system ever!!

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> not to mention Limited E which has to be the most f**ked up catelogue
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> EVER !!!
>
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> a screwed up catalogue system is the sign of a wicked label!!!
> c'mon....brain, de underground, face, lucky spin to name a few of 'em!!!
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blackman- bastards- redlight recs
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Be very lucky to get Iron Man, most Mokum stuff is impossible to get hold of 
these days...

>I still can't find "Dub War", "Iron Man" - Search & Destroy, or "Maggie's 
>Last Party ("Acid Party Let's Have A Party")" - VIM (Oak Lawn Records) 
>anywhere besides a million
>dollars on eBay.
>
>I dont think I've ever even SEEN Maggie's Last Party or Iron Man on eBay 
>ever.
>
>oh well.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) was Impossible searches... now Limited E label

>>>>never liked any of the releases on that label

you're joking surely ?!!!!

What  about  Lets Rave, Rave In The Bedroom, Sky Joose, Love EP, Release The
Energy, Orchestral Mayhem..... all top tunes i reckon !

Mike

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don't forget Potential Bad Boy!  work the box, gidi up, for the ladies

>From: "Old Skool Forever" <djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk>
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> >>>>never liked any of the releases on that label
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>What  about  Lets Rave, Rave In The Bedroom, Sky Joose, Love EP, Release 
>The
>Energy, Orchestral Mayhem..... all top tunes i reckon !
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Subject: (oldschool) Mislabelled MP3 ident, please

Hiya,

So a while back, back when Audiogalaxy was in full swing, I downloaded a
MP3 that was labelled as "Cloud 9 - Call My Name (A.A.S. Mix)".  Loved it.
Moving Shadow repressed the EP that it was on, and I gladly bought it...
and now have just listened to the EP, only to discover that the tune with
the same name on the vinyl is NOT the same tune as the MP3.  In fact, they
sound to have nothing in similar.  So, I've uploaded the MP3 to my
webspace and am hoping that one or two of you can make an ID on it.  The
address is:

   http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/notcloud9.mp3

It's a 7 meg download -- I didn't have time to downsample it to anything
less.  As for what it sounds like, well, it sounds like a remix of
the remix of First Project "Right Before", but even ruffer.

Thanks for any help anyone can give.

Take care,
- Chris


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Ooooooohhhhh yyyyeeess!!!!!
What a fu**in TUNE !!

Don't know mate, sounds like a energizer, maybe volume 5 ?


D

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Hiya,

So a while back, back when Audiogalaxy was in full swing, I downloaded a
MP3 that was labelled as "Cloud 9 - Call My Name (A.A.S. Mix)".  Loved
it. Moving Shadow repressed the EP that it was on, and I gladly bought
it... and now have just listened to the EP, only to discover that the
tune with the same name on the vinyl is NOT the same tune as the MP3.
In fact, they sound to have nothing in similar.  So, I've uploaded the
MP3 to my webspace and am hoping that one or two of you can make an ID
on it.  The address is:

   http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/notcloud9.mp3

It's a 7 meg download -- I didn't have time to downsample it to anything
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remix of First Project "Right Before", but even ruffer.

Thanks for any help anyone can give.

Take care,
- Chris


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Thought that would scare a few peeps!

Anyway, in 15 mins I'm off for a two week break in Texas, so I'm =
unsubbing and will be back on the 15th October.

I will try and check emails when I can so send me one private style and =
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Enjoy -you!

Thought that would scare a few peeps!

Anyway, in 15 mins I'm off for a two week break in Texas, so I'm unsubbing
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Mickey Finn and Pieter K on Thursday in Austin!



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Subject: (oldschool) DJ Sparks - Yaw Records

I just got an email from a guy who wanted some
information on DJ Sparks and the Yaw Records label. I
don't really know much about this label to be honest
but having spotted DJ Sparks real surname 'Boahene' on
some of his records I did a bit of a search on Google.

This is what it came up with :

http://home.clara.net/sjafn/frankboahene.htm

Reckon it could be the same bloke?? Used to be part of
NOMAD, could well have moved onto Hardcore and Jungle
after hitting the charts.

Anybody got any more info?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

Yes

We've got a copy in stock of

Fierce Ruling Diva - You gotta believe - React records 1992 priced at £8.00

If you're interested email tom@brarecords.com

Cheers

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> Fierce ruling diva was licensed in the UK on React
> I would imagine there are UK copies of you gotta believe out there
> If you're really after the Dutch copy only, it's on Lower East Side
> Records.
>
> ---chris
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bobert Holeness [mailto:j_mucky@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 3:35 am
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>
> one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding
> chickens
> teeth..
>
> K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records
>
> You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)
>
>
> I'll definately pay well for these.
>
> cheers
> Mucky
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Subject: (oldschool) Mixtape of the Week!  On-E - Live at NASA NYE 92/93

>ON-E - LIVE AT NASA NYE 92/93

Not that I am ungrateful or anything, but why rip an old hissy tape
at 160 kpbs?  Just so you can hear the hiss better?  Rip at 96 kbps
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Aztek! London Someting vid tune ID

> 02:02)? (Not THC on Awesome)
this one's Guy Called Gerald - Sunshine - JuiceBox


> 08:52)?
 i think this is a dillinja track. been after it for aaaaaaaaaages..




Hardcore - U Know the Score
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> > this is a long shot, but i donwloaded the London Someting video off the
> > Jungle Tekno site - do you know, or anyone else who has dl-ed the video,
> > what the tune is playing at the beginning, specifically around the one
> > minute mark ?...
>
> How about this for a service?!
> People on the DNB Arena forum were asking for IDs off it too, so I did a
> track listing ;o)
>
> 00:00)Bodysnatch - Euphony - Big City
> 00:40)Appollo 2 - Atlantis (LTJ Bukem remix) - Good Looking
> 01:20)Prisoner - Mr Fix-it - London Some'ting
> 02:02)? (Not THC on Awesome)
> 03:25)? (Not Redrose on Greensleeves)
> 03:48)Studio 2 - Who jah bless (Remix)- Whitelabel
> 04:40)Lennie D Ice - We are IE - Reel2Reel
> 06:45)Roni Size - Music box - Full Cycle
> 07:30)M Beat - Incredible - Renk (Live PA)
> 08:02)Higher Sense - Cold fresh air (Remix) - Moving Shadow
> 08:52)?
> 09:15)Appollo 2 - Atlantis (LTJ Bukem remix) - Good Looking (Moose MC'ing
> clip)
> 10:13)Tribe of Issachat - Kunta Kinte - Congo Natty
> 11:08)X-Project - Dubplate 3 - (Congo Natty)
> 11:24)Tribe of Issachat - Kunta Kinte - Congo Natty
> 12:06)Dancemaster - Kan u feel it - Grand Laceny
> 12:22)House tune going into Black Market changes into XLR8 - Wots my code
> remix
> 12:44)?
> 13:45)Goldie - Saint Angel - FFrr
> 14:57)4 Hero - Universal love - Selector
> 16:10)Deep Blue - Helicoptor tune - Moving Shadow
> 17:05)Slipmatt - Breakin free - Awesome
> 23:48)Peshay - (?) - Metalheads 002
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

Hi

We have a copy of

VIM - MAGGIE'S LAST PARTY, in stock priced at £6.00.

If you are interested please email tom@brarecords.com

cheers
----- Original Message -----
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> I still can't find "Dub War", "Iron Man" - Search & Destroy, or "Maggie's
Last Party ("Acid Party Let's Have A Party")" - VIM (Oak Lawn Records)
anywhere besides a million
> dollars on eBay.
>
> I dont think I've ever even SEEN Maggie's Last Party or Iron Man on eBay
ever.
>
> oh well.
>
> ------------------
> "ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch and moan and
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> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Mixtape of the Week!  On-E - Live at NASA NYE 92/93

10/2/2002 12:56:31 PM, AtomicCow <subspended@postmark.net> wrote:

>>ON-E - LIVE AT NASA NYE 92/93
>
>Not that I am ungrateful or anything, but why rip an old hissy tape
>at 160 kpbs?  Just so you can hear the hiss better?  Rip at 96 kbps
>and save yourself some bandwidth.

Well, I have the space for free, and I encode em at 160 so they dont lose anymore MORE quality, so if people wanna run em through sound processes they can  :)



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Subject: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project

I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher.

Wikked tune!




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project
>
> I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher.
>
> Wikked tune!

Thanks Ian, but it's not... as far as I can tell there was only one remix
of "Right Before" released on Fokus, catalogue number FKUK009, and that
one is similar to this but not the same.  Unless there's another that I
don't know about.

Take care,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

10/2/2002 1:15:24 PM, Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
>> That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project
>>
>> I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher.
>>
>> Wikked tune!
>
>Thanks Ian, but it's not... as far as I can tell there was only one remix
>of "Right Before" released on Fokus, catalogue number FKUK009, and that
>one is similar to this but not the same.  Unless there's another that I
>don't know about.

That is so blatantly a rip-off of it then.  It's all the same elements, samples, everything.



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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> >> That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project
> >> I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher.
> >> Wikked tune!
> >
> >Thanks Ian, but it's not... as far as I can tell there was only one remix
> >of "Right Before" released on Fokus, catalogue number FKUK009, and that
> >one is similar to this but not the same.  Unless there's another that I
> >don't know about.
>
> That is so blatantly a rip-off of it then.  It's all the same elements,
> samples, everything.

Yeah, no kidding -- which is why I was slightly curious if it was actually
a Nookie production -- but I guess it's not, unless I'm mistaken.
Personally though I like this version even more than the official remix!
If anyone could actually find out who it's done by I'd add it to my wants
list in a second.

Take care,
- Chris


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Subject: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

Hello yet again,

Just pulled out the excellent "Sunshine EP" by Aurora, on Adrenalin
Records, and was just wondering was there anything else ever released by
these artists or this label?  I've not seen anything else but these tunes
are well-wicked, and it'd be a shame if they never made any more.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

Yeah but the original right before my eyes - Patti Day is sublime
Reminds me of Astoria 1989-90
Clarkee
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> >> That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project
> >> I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher. Wikked tune!
> >
> >Thanks Ian, but it's not... as far as I can tell there was only one 
> >remix of "Right Before" released on Fokus, catalogue number FKUK009, 
> >and that one is similar to this but not the same.  Unless there's 
> >another that I don't know about.
>
> That is so blatantly a rip-off of it then.  It's all the same 
> elements, samples, everything.

Yeah, no kidding -- which is why I was slightly curious if it was
actually a Nookie production -- but I guess it's not, unless I'm
mistaken. Personally though I like this version even more than the
official remix! If anyone could actually find out who it's done by I'd
add it to my wants list in a second.

Take care,
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Clarkee wrote:
> Yeah but the original right before my eyes - Patti Day is sublime
> Reminds me of Astoria 1989-90
> Clarkee
> Official rep for da old gits

Yes, the original is classic too, no doubt about it.  :)  As far as a
hardcore rip of it goes, though, I'm saying that unknown is my favorite.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

Yeah - Ive got a few Adrenalin records - Not seen em much about though - 
check my site - Theyre up for sale, but the search engine bust at the mintue 
so youll have to plod through the Vinyl - though Adrenalin will be at the 
start if you sort it by label.  

Aurora also did firin on all cylinders & Firin to the core on home grown recs 
HG 001

Gazza
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002 Bingoberty@aol.com wrote:
> Yeah - Ive got a few Adrenalin records - Not seen em much about though -
> check my site - Theyre up for sale, but the search engine bust at the mintue
> so youll have to plod through the Vinyl - though Adrenalin will be at the
> start if you sort it by label.
>
> Aurora also did firin on all cylinders & Firin to the core on home grown recs
> HG 001

Cheers Gazza!

I'll have to take another look through your site again then.  :)

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- Chris


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

I think it's a mass up of two tunes, I had the 'right before' remix on a
cd a few years ago. Very similar, but this is rough!

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project
>
> I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher.
>
> Wikked tune!

Thanks Ian, but it's not... as far as I can tell there was only one
remix of "Right Before" released on Fokus, catalogue number FKUK009, and
that one is similar to this but not the same.  Unless there's another
that I don't know about.

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- Chris


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

Doh Martyn! u forget i found a copy on Suburban Sounds for you!!!

That was on Tone Def apparently !!! Must have been a proper label 
copy,otherwise it would have probably been listed as a white label or "no info"


At 23:14 01/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
>it definitely exists Martyn :)
>
>Oh yeah... they were all white labels with the catelogue : SYMPHONY 002.
>
>Its NOT 100% certain that its a Symphony Sounds release ,  but the fact that
>this is the only gap in the Symphony Sounds discography makes me think that
>its pretty likely.  Except... all the other Symphony Sounds had  SYM  as the
>catelogue no.
>
>Whatever, just don't go round looking for a Symphony Sounds Logo because you
>won't find it that way !
>
>Mike
>
>DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
>http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...
>
>
>Ive never seen EPS - Follow the leader - Symphony Sounds, my most wanted
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

well basically, there was the release prior to the Adrenalin one, which was
by Aurora (Stu J, Southampton geeza). It had a different and better mix imo
of spectral bass, with voice of buddah on the flip. Buke mused to play this
mix of spectral bass. Never seen one apart from the one that i have. It was
fully pressed up tho.


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> Hello yet again,
>
> Just pulled out the excellent "Sunshine EP" by Aurora, on Adrenalin
> Records, and was just wondering was there anything else ever released by
> these artists or this label?  I've not seen anything else but these tunes
> are well-wicked, and it'd be a shame if they never made any more.
>
> Take care,
> - Chris
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Not Cloud 9

I'm with Clarkee, still, bet no one's got a copy of Lonnie Gordon -
Right Before My Eyes, she covered it in 1991, amazing vocals. Very
GatDecor - Passion if I may say so.
I'll dig it up if anyone wants it.

D

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Yeah but the original right before my eyes - Patti Day is sublime
Reminds me of Astoria 1989-90 Clarkee Official rep for da old gits



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On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> >> That tune is a remix of "Right Before" - First Project
> >> I have the original, this remix is WAYYYYYYYY rougher. Wikked tune!
> >
> >Thanks Ian, but it's not... as far as I can tell there was only one
> >remix of "Right Before" released on Fokus, catalogue number FKUK009, 
> >and that one is similar to this but not the same.  Unless there's 
> >another that I don't know about.
>
> That is so blatantly a rip-off of it then.  It's all the same
> elements, samples, everything.

Yeah, no kidding -- which is why I was slightly curious if it was
actually a Nookie production -- but I guess it's not, unless I'm
mistaken. Personally though I like this version even more than the
official remix! If anyone could actually find out who it's done by I'd
add it to my wants list in a second.

Take care,
- Chris


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or One discs???

Can any confirm for me - (I sold it a while back but my memory fails me - 
must be the years of chemical abuse) whether the Gold shadow 100 was 1 or two 
discs?

Gazza

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or One discs???

It was three.



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Can any confirm for me - (I sold it a while back but my memory fails me
- 
must be the years of chemical abuse) whether the Gold shadow 100 was 1
or two 
discs?

Gazza

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>>>Lonnie Gordon - Right Before My Eyes

what label is that on ? Never heard it or seen it b4.




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or One discs???

> It was three.

my copy is a double pack...... never heard of a 3 pack version ????




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> It was three.
>
>
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> discs???
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> Can any confirm for me - (I sold it a while back but my memory fails me
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> Gazza
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	discs???

Quoting eXtreme <DJ_extreme@hardcoreuknowthescore.freeserve.co.uk>:

>> It was three.
> 
> my copy is a double pack...... never heard of a 3 pack version ????


Various Artists 
Dom & Rob - Distorted Dreams / Rob & Goldie - The Shadow
SHADOW100 : VINYL Single (Released 21/04/1997)

Various Artists 
Dom & Rob - Distorted Dreams (Desired State Remix) / Rob & Goldie - The
Shadow (Grooverider Jeep Mix)
SHADOW100R1 : VINYL Single (Released 21/04/1997)

Various Artists 
Rob & Goldie - The Shadow (Process Mix) / Rob & Goldie - The Shadow (Bing
Here Mix) 
SHADOW100R2 : VINYL Single (Released 21/04/1997)

Various Artists 
Current Affairs - Drones / Rob & Goldie - The Shadow (Process Mix)
SHADOW100Z : VINYL Single (Released 18/08/1997)


If that helps....  ;)


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Richard Wyatt wrote:
> well basically, there was the release prior to the Adrenalin one, which was
> by Aurora (Stu J, Southampton geeza). It had a different and better mix imo
> of spectral bass, with voice of buddah on the flip. Buke mused to play this
> mix of spectral bass. Never seen one apart from the one that i have. It was
> fully pressed up tho.

Wait, so is this Stu J the same Stu J who nowadays does happycore /
trancecore with DJ UFO?  Have this one tune by the two of them called
"Resin-8" and it's pretty decent.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or Onediscs???

Ive got the double pack, its got the original of The Shadow, and Distorted
Dreams.
Both are gold etched vinyl, its a promo copy with extra etching saying Promo
Only. ;o)

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Subject: (oldschool) Full Recycle update

Ive now just added a new Sample Source page, if anyone can think up anymore
to add, Id be most grateful!
Also, can anyone confirm the samples used in Burial by Leviticus? Ive got
some ideas, but cant find the source tunes to check em out....

Also added, the last 5 forum threads to be posted on the forum are now
automatically updated on the site homepage. ;o)

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Burial was sung by Yolanda, apparently that was Jack Frosts sister, are you
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> Ive now just added a new Sample Source page, if anyone can think up
anymore
> to add, Id be most grateful!
> Also, can anyone confirm the samples used in Burial by Leviticus? Ive got
> some ideas, but cant find the source tunes to check em out....
>
> Also added, the last 5 forum threads to be posted on the forum are now
> automatically updated on the site homepage. ;o)
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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I got my copy of burial in the post today :D
i wanna know the male vocals on the other side of the Yolanda version
its sung to the tune of Copacabana, but not the same lyrics, and Dest says
the humming is from a Barry Manilow tune, connection?

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> Burial was sung by Yolanda, apparently that was Jack Frosts sister, are
you
> looking for the 'big fat and heavy lyrics then' ????


Yeah, knew that, Im after the ragga lyric (Big fat and heavy), also the "Its
a wonder" vocal, and the male voice humming too. I know one is Barry
Manilow, I knew the ragga ID, but cant remember it now!

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these are all from '91 on an old Joey Beltram tape i've got....


http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/joeybeltram2.rm
http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/joeybeltram3.rm
http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/joeybeltram4.rm
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http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/joeybeltram9.rm
http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/joeybeltram11.rm




Still need some confirmations as well on a few other ID's... the main
Unknowns page is here :-

http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk/name.htm

cheers
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Subject: (oldschool) DJ Dilemma

Ok guys--I need some advice and I figured the old school list might be a
good place to go.
On the 11th I am playing with broken spindles (the new solo project from
the guy who founded the faint).
If you're not familiar with the faint, they were an American indie rock
band at the forefront of the whole
electro-industrial-goth-techno-synthpop-revival thing. Kinda like
ladytron. 
Anyway, the promoter told me he wanted me to play old school hardcore.
Then he said he wanted me to play EBM. I am not sure he is aware of the
difference, honestly. So what the hell do I play? What that is "old
skool" will go over with these people? Belgian hardcore? New Beat? Hard
Beat? He said he wanted EBM, but I if I pull out a crate of Morton
Sherman Belluci tracks the crowd will think I'm kidding! Or maybe they
won't. Who knows with these indie rock kids--they know nothing about
electronic music, and now they are all desparate to look like they've
been down for ages.
Anyway, advice?

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I still can't find "Dub War", "Iron Man" - Search & Destroy, or "Maggie's 
Last
Party ("Acid Party Let's Have A Party")" - VIM (Oak Lawn Records) anywhere
besides a million
dollars on eBay.

I dont think I've ever even SEEN Maggie's Last Party or Iron Man on eBay 
ever.

I've got Maggies Last Party....hilarious tune...."lets have a party,rave, 
rave, rave, murder..come to the party, crucial party...!

lol

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Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.

To be pressed.

What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.

Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

nope that's not the one I was thinkin of actually I might try and encode the 
one I'm after.

cheers
Mucky

>From: "Tom Hamilton" <tom@brarecords.demon.co.uk>
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>Yes
>
>We've got a copy in stock of
>
>Fierce Ruling Diva - You gotta believe - React records 1992 priced at £8.00
>
>If you're interested email tom@brarecords.com
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>Cheers
>
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> > Fierce ruling diva was licensed in the UK on React
> > I would imagine there are UK copies of you gotta believe out there
> > If you're really after the Dutch copy only, it's on Lower East Side
> > Records.
> >
> > ---chris
> >
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> > one I'm despirate for but I apperntly have better chance of finding
> > chickens
> > teeth..
> >
> > K-Alexi - Tell Alexi - Phierce city records
> >
> > You gotta belive - fierce ruling Diva - (some dutch label)
> >
> >
> > I'll definately pay well for these.
> >
> > cheers
> > Mucky
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Subject: RE: RE: (oldschool) Impossible searches...

I've got Maggies Last Party....hilarious tune...."lets have a
party,rave, 
rave, rave, murder..come to the party, crucial party...!

lol

andrew



Yes m8 I picked this up back in the day too, amusing stuff but some very
clever sampling imo :-)

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I love it!

lets have a party, acid party, today... every week!... it's our 
party...never mind the politics..rave rave rave murder!

ahhh I'm bored
Mucky

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>I've got Maggies Last Party....hilarious tune...."lets have a
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>lol
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or One

Well my one is only 2 discs, and I've seen it go on
eBay before and there were only the two discs. Is Paul
i-tunes around? He should know.

Actually I'm thinking of selling my copy if anyone is
interested?

Matt B

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Can any confirm for me - (I sold it a while back but
my memory fails me 
- 
must be the years of chemical abuse) whether the Gold
shadow 100 was 1 
or two 
discs?

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Paul i-tunes is off to Amsterdam, dunno if he has gone yet tho.

How much you selling it for matt? Any news on those cds for me?

Peter Smith
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) updated trades list

u still after it?


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> I havent got any records to trade, but i will pay loads for nasty remix.
> lol
> Chunks
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> > alex reece- pulp fiction- metalheadz N/M
> > underground software- different ting- reinforced #26
> > krome + time- sound is for the underground remix- subbase
> > nasty remix- hamster recs
> > seduction- higher noe / my own- impact #4
> > bounty killer- down in the ghetto- greensleeves
> > studio 2 ep- shy fx- 4 tracker!!
> > dj trace 001 - white label- samples enya 'sail away'
> > aurora- sunshine ep- adrenalin recs
> > kemet crew- the seed / the box re-opens- seed 1
> > remarc- sound murderer / flip is damamged tho- whitehouse
> > dead dred- dred bass- ms 41 (incs pict cover)**mint**
> > family foundation- express yourself- 380 recs + orig sleeve
> > SUAD- raving i'm raving + orig sleeve **mint**
> > ramos- phantasm- hectic
> > looking good recs #33
> > jb- stand easy- b2b #8 white label
> > peshay- miles from home- mo wax white label
> > wishdokta- your love for 93- dok recs (went for over £30 a few moths
back
> on
> > ebay)
> > POT- vol 2- Fresh Kut recs
> > mk 13- feel the magic ep- Sonic sounds recs 3
> > eze g- worlds of confusion remixes- soundscape recs
> >
> > wants:
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Subject: (oldschool) Another haul...

Well, almost. Have finally been lucky enough to join the few on here who 
stumble across a haul of tunes purely by accident. Haven't bought em yet, 
but they're reserved until the guy decides his final price, tho he isn't 
looking for a huge amount. Wicked stuff, a bundle of Limited E tunes, a 
couple of Ibiza ones, We Are IE, The Turk, Raw From China, Energizer 3 and 
Dj's Unite Vol 1 all there off the top of my head.

Anybody after Energizers 1 & 2, Blatants Theme, Djs Unite Vol 2 & Dub War 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

Aye, same bloke. Always has had a talent for writing tunes, Resin-8 is 
probably one of my favourite hardcore tunes ever...pretty quiet these days 
but UFO still does a fair bit.

>Wait, so is this Stu J the same Stu J who nowadays does happycore /
>trancecore with DJ UFO?  Have this one tune by the two of them called
>"Resin-8" and it's pretty decent.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Another haul...

well done Paul,  always good to hear 2nd hand stuff still being found !!!

Oh yeah,  i've got spares of Energizer 1  & Cool Hand Flex - Wip Lash,  both
excellent condition   ,  if anyone is interested drop me a mail.

Mike

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Well, almost. Have finally been lucky enough to join the few on here who
stumble across a haul of tunes purely by accident. Haven't bought em yet,
but they're reserved until the guy decides his final price, tho he isn't
looking for a huge amount. Wicked stuff, a bundle of Limited E tunes, a
couple of Ibiza ones, We Are IE, The Turk, Raw From China, Energizer 3 and
Dj's Unite Vol 1 all there off the top of my head.

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first copy ive seen of Turk apart from Dest and Deluxes copies
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Another haul...

i've got the original "Turk" coming in the post very soon,  its actually
called the K Groove EP.

Really wierd that someone simply decided to press a white label of a tune
that had already been released & rename it to "The Turk"   !!!!

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first copy ive seen of Turk apart from Dest and Deluxes copies
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another haul...

I know, I was well surprised...got any trades? Cos I must admit it's not 
something I've ever been desperate for, but it's there so I might as well 
take it!!!

Quite surprising who owns the whole collection, it's actually Julian 
Liberator's, who if ye don't know is a big name on the underground techno 
scene...wouldn't have thought he was into the cheesy days of old! =)

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On


Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)

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I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.

To be pressed.

What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.

Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/




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> for some reason i'm not getting all the posts and some are taking hours to
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

I agree
Why can't people write their own tracks for a change
Or, if you MUST speed up a tune, do it to a track that could use it--I
suggest Art Of Noise - "I of the needled (sweet exorcist remix)"

---chris

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Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)

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Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On


I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.

To be pressed.

What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.

Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/




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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

10/3/2002 2:25:11 PM, "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu> wrote:

>I agree
>Why can't people write their own tracks for a change

Hey!  I write tons of my own tunes!  

>Or, if you MUST speed up a tune, do it to a track that could use it--I
>suggest Art Of Noise - "I of the needled (sweet exorcist remix)"

Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it 157 isnt much.



>---chris
>
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>
>
>Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)
>
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>Sent: 03 October 2002 10:53
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>Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
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>
>I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.
>
>To be pressed.
>
>What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.
>
>Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/
>
>
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wicked tune, not sure about £20 though, probably £15 ??

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Subject: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On


>I agree
>Why can't people write their own tracks for a change

Hey!  I write tons of my own tunes!  

I know, I know--and you should focus on that instead of becoming the US
DJ Vibes. 


>Or, if you MUST speed up a tune, do it to a track that could use it--I
>suggest Art Of Noise - "I of the needled (sweet exorcist remix)"

Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it 157
isnt much.

It is 128, and it's great as it is! Leave the poor thing alone!

---chris



>---chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Gover [mailto:dave@breakbeat.gr] 
>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:51 am
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>
>
>Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
>Sent: 03 October 2002 10:53
>To: oldschool
>Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
>
>
>I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.
>
>To be pressed.
>
>What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.
>
>Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/
>
>
>
>
>------------------
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>
>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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boston)
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>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
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Subject: Re: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

10/3/2002 3:56:13 PM, "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu> wrote:

>>Hey!  I write tons of my own tunes!  
>
>I know, I know--and you should focus on that instead of becoming the US
>DJ Vibes. 

Can't I do both?  :)

>>Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it 157
>>isnt much.
>
>It is 128, and it's great as it is! Leave the poor thing alone!

The tune itself is a rip-off of "It's a Fine Day" by Opus III, so I'll prolly just use elements from that instead.





>---chris
>
>
>
>>---chris
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Gover [mailto:dave@breakbeat.gr] 
>>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:51 am
>>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; djentropy@mindspring.com
>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
>>
>>
>>Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
>>Sent: 03 October 2002 10:53
>>To: oldschool
>>Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
>>
>>
>>I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.
>>
>>To be pressed.
>>
>>What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.
>>
>>Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------
>>"ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch and moan and
>>argue with him" - Raine Maggio (R.I.P. 9/18/83 - 9/9/02)
>>
>>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>>ian@djentropy.com
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>boston)
>>  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
>>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
>>         http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>>     http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com    http://www.fat-tunes.com
>>    Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>>                        "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
>>Quinn
>>        "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
>>Educate
>>the
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>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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>  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
>         http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>     http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com    http://www.fat-tunes.com
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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) good or bad

good, stand out vocal, but not great...worth £20....hmmmm...not sure to be
honest.
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SUB LOVE
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Subject: RE: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

Oy. Well if you MUST, make sure to include the Belinda Carlisle and Bon
Jovi bits from when they play it live.

---chris

-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] 
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Subject: Re: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

10/3/2002 3:56:13 PM, "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu> wrote:

>>Hey!  I write tons of my own tunes!  
>
>I know, I know--and you should focus on that instead of becoming the US
>DJ Vibes. 

Can't I do both?  :)

>>Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it
157
>>isnt much.
>
>It is 128, and it's great as it is! Leave the poor thing alone!

The tune itself is a rip-off of "It's a Fine Day" by Opus III, so I'll
prolly just use elements from that instead.





>---chris
>
>
>
>>---chris
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Gover [mailto:dave@breakbeat.gr] 
>>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:51 am
>>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; djentropy@mindspring.com
>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
>>
>>
>>Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
>>Sent: 03 October 2002 10:53
>>To: oldschool
>>Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
>>
>>
>>I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.
>>
>>To be pressed.
>>
>>What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.
>>
>>Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>------------------
>>"ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch and moan
and
>>argue with him" - Raine Maggio (R.I.P. 9/18/83 - 9/9/02)
>>
>>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>>ian@djentropy.com
>>   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution,
>boston)
>>  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
>>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
>>         http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>>     http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com    http://www.fat-tunes.com
>>    Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>>                        "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
>>Quinn
>>        "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
>>Educate
>>the
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>>Genacide II
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>
>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>ian@djentropy.com
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boston)
>  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
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>    Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
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>Quinn
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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
ian@djentropy.com
   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution, boston)
  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
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                        "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
Quinn
        "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
Educate the
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Subject: Re: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

thats what i am talkin about...
i still remember the first time i saw them do that
i almost wet myself

:)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu>
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Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 4:10 PM
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> Oy. Well if you MUST, make sure to include the Belinda Carlisle and Bon
> Jovi bits from when they play it live.
> 
> ---chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 2:56 pm
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
> 
> 10/3/2002 3:56:13 PM, "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu> wrote:
> 
> >>Hey!  I write tons of my own tunes!  
> >
> >I know, I know--and you should focus on that instead of becoming the US
> >DJ Vibes. 
> 
> Can't I do both?  :)
> 
> >>Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it
> 157
> >>isnt much.
> >
> >It is 128, and it's great as it is! Leave the poor thing alone!
> 
> The tune itself is a rip-off of "It's a Fine Day" by Opus III, so I'll
> prolly just use elements from that instead.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >---chris
> >
> >
> >
> >>---chris
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: David Gover [mailto:dave@breakbeat.gr] 
> >>Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:51 am
> >>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; djentropy@mindspring.com
> >>Subject: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
> >>
> >>
> >>Don't do it - the tune is perfect as it is :)
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: DJ Entropy [mailto:djentropy@mindspring.com]
> >>Sent: 03 October 2002 10:53
> >>To: oldschool
> >>Subject: (oldschool) Halcyon & On
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm doing a hardcore remix for this label of this tune.
> >>
> >>To be pressed.
> >>
> >>What tempo should I go at?  157 is what I was thinking.
> >>
> >>Ooo, that vocal is sampled from It's A Fine Day \m/
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>------------------
> >>"ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch and moan
> and
> >>argue with him" - Raine Maggio (R.I.P. 9/18/83 - 9/9/02)
> >>
> >>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> >>ian@djentropy.com
> >>   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution,
> >boston)
> >>  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> >>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
> >>         http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> >>     http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com    http://www.fat-tunes.com
> >>    Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
> >>                        "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
> >>Quinn
> >>        "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> >>Educate
> >>the
> >>       narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine -
> >>Genacide II
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> >ian@djentropy.com
> >   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution,
> boston)
> >  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> >http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
> >         http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> >     http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com    http://www.fat-tunes.com
> >    Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
> >                        "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
> >Quinn
> >        "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> >Educate the
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> >Genacide II
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> argue with him" - Raine Maggio (R.I.P. 9/18/83 - 9/9/02)
> 
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> ian@djentropy.com
>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, new sample revolution, boston)
>   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
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>     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
> Quinn
>         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> Educate the
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> Genacide II
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Subject: Re: RE: RE: (oldschool) Halcyon & On

On Thu, 3 Oct 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> 10/3/2002 3:56:13 PM, "Christopher Landis Shively" <heino@ku.edu> wrote:
> >>Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it 157
> >>isnt much.
> >
> >It is 128, and it's great as it is! Leave the poor thing alone!
>
> The tune itself is a rip-off of "It's a Fine Day" by Opus III, so I'll
> prolly just use elements from that instead.

It's been done.  "Finite" by Saturnalia on Extatic 002 from '94.  Fucking
TUNE.  Uses the la-la-la-la vocals atop great pianos and beats.  I'll put
that up sometime soon.  Apparently it was an early pseudonym of Trixxy.

Take care,
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Subject: (oldschool) Hip hop sampling oldskool

What goes around, comes around, I suppose...

After years and years of junglists sampling their favorite US hip-hop
tracks and mucking around with them, someone's finally done the reverse.
US gangsta rapper Xzibit has sampled the opening bell-loop lick from
Origin Unknown's "Valley Of The Shadows" on one of the tracks, "Right On",
on his latest album "Man Vs. Machine" which was just released on Tuesday.
We were playing it in our record shop today, and that tune came on... took
me about ten seconds before I recognized it!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Adrenalin Records -- any more?

yeah ufo was here last week playing out

Paul Waight wrote:

> Aye, same bloke. Always has had a talent for writing tunes, Resin-8 is
> probably one of my favourite hardcore tunes ever...pretty quiet these days
> but UFO still does a fair bit.
>
> >Wait, so is this Stu J the same Stu J who nowadays does happycore /
> >trancecore with DJ UFO?  Have this one tune by the two of them called
> >"Resin-8" and it's pretty decent.
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) Dope Dragon Megamix MP3 to download

As ive just had a lovely 2 days of sick, I decided to do a mega mix of some
mad jumpup, all curtesy of one of my fave ever labels. The mix starts of
with some wicked mixes, but it gets a little loose towards the end (Mainly
due to my headache getting worse as it went on LOL)
If anyone rates it, I'll sort it again and make it spot on so its worth
burning or whatever you do with it ;o)
So... any feedback is welcome (and wanted!) I may do a Philly Blunt, V, or
Full Cycle one soon too if the demand is there.

www.fullrecycle.com/audio/djdestiny_dopedragon_megamix.MP3
(44.5MB - Stereo - 128k coding)

Tracklisting:
Cash till
Dictation
Ready or not
Rukus
Mad professor
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> US gangsta rapper Xzibit has sampled the opening bell-loop lick from
> Origin Unknown's "Valley Of The Shadows"

Not nessessarily... more likely sampled from the same Public Domain sample
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>From: "Richard Wyatt" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
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> > wishdokta- your love for 93- dok recs (went for over £30 a few moths
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>on
> > ebay


Thats another one I'm after...can u send me your wants please Richard.

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"Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it 157 
isnt much."

Bloody Hell I feel old.....out of morbid fascination what exactly would be 
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10/3/2002 9:54:36 PM, "andy gugs" <g_u_g_s@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Who said I was gonna speed it up that much?  its like 135, making it 157 
>isnt much."
>
>Bloody Hell I feel old.....out of morbid fascination what exactly would be 
>speeding it up alot be?

180?



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Subject: (oldschool) Riverdance this Sunday

Resonance invites you to join us for a mega Old Skool party
cruising the Thames aboard the the Golden Jubilee to the very best
Old Skool sounds from 90 to 95.

The Golden Jubilee embarks from:
Temple Pier
Victoria Embankment
London WC2

Sunday October 6th 2002
12 noon sharp till 6pm

DJ Line up to include:

Vibes (Slammin' Vinyl)
Ponder & HB (Elation)
Devious Dee (Innovation)
Uplift (United Dance)
Flashback (Sunday Skool)
Devious Dave (Déjà vu Ibiza)

Mc Strict

2 Decks, 2 Bars
Sound and Lights by Black Box
Security by Trident Security
Free fruit, free whistles and other rave goodies.

Strictly over 18s, I.D. may be required,
All bags will be searched, right of admission reserved.

Tickets will be £18+bf from the following outlets:

Musik Emporium, Peckham 020 7639 6844
Blackmarket, Soho, 0207 437 0478 
Wayne, Hampton Court, 020 8224 0195 
Pure Groove, Archway, 020 7281 4877 
Slammin Vinyl, Kingston, 020 8547 0113 
Decksterity, Greenwich, 020 8265 2000 
Boogie Times, Romford, 01708 727 029
We strongly advise early ticket purchase to guarantee entrance as
there are only 220 places available. Subject to a ticket count, there
may be tickets available on the day, priced at £25. Please phone
or e-mail to check availability before travelling.

This will be the only Riverdance party this year. 

*ticket price includes free private after party aboard the
permanently moored St Katherine at Temple Pier courtesy of
Sunday Skool with DJs
Flashback, Jack-Knife, Devious Dave, Maxx Vinyl and R-Type from
6pm till 11pm*

info: 07940 123 783

e-mail: { HYPERLINK "mailto:info@resonance1.net" }info@resonance1.net

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Riverdance on the Thames 6th October 12noon till 6pm
Sunday Skool @ the St Katherine WC2 6th October 6pm till 11pm

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Resonance invites you to join us for a mega Old Skool party
cruising the Thames aboard the the Golden Jubilee to the very best
Old Skool sounds from 90 to 95.

The Golden Jubilee embarks from:
Temple Pier
Victoria Embankment
London WC2

Sunday October 6th 2002
12 noon sharp till 6pm

DJ Line up to include:

Vibes (Slammin' Vinyl)
Ponder & HB (Elation)
Devious Dee (Innovation)
Uplift (United Dance)
Flashback (Sunday Skool)
Devious Dave (D=E9j=E0 vu Ibiza)

Mc Strict

2 Decks, 2 Bars
Sound and Lights by Black Box
Security by Trident Security
Free fruit, free whistles and other rave goodies.

Strictly over 18s, I.D. may be required,
All bags will be searched, right of admission reserved.

Tickets will be =A318+bf from the following outlets:

Musik Emporium, Peckham 020 7639 6844=0F
Blackmarket, Soho, 0207 437 0478 =0F
Wayne, Hampton Court, 020 8224 0195 =0F
Pure Groove, Archway, 020 7281 4877 =0F
Slammin Vinyl, Kingston, 020 8547 0113 =0F
Decksterity, Greenwich, 020 8265 2000 =0F
Boogie Times, Romford, 01708 727 029
We strongly advise early ticket purchase to guarantee entrance as
there are only 220 places available. Subject to a ticket count, there
may be tickets available on the day, priced at =A325. Please phone
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This will be the only Riverdance party this year. =0F
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*ticket price includes free private after party aboard the
permanently moored St Katherine at Temple Pier courtesy of
Sunday Skool with DJs
Flashback, Jack-Knife, Devious Dave, Maxx Vinyl and R-Type from
6pm till 11pm*

info: 07940 123 783

e-mail: { HYPERLINK "mailto:info@resonance1.net" }info@resonance1.net

--------------------------------------------------------
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Riverdance on the Thames 6th October 12noon till 6pm
Sunday Skool @ the St Katherine WC2 6th October 6pm till 11pm

                                                 \|/
                                         (@ @)
---------------------oOOo--(_)--oOOo-------------------

www.oLdSkOoLfLaVA.com
A true musical (r)evolution
ICQ 16975853 - pLuR 8^)

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Subject: (oldschool) Hey guys, check this out:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22dj+entropy%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&safe=off&selm=28de1dd7.0206201412.7fc47a67%40posting.google.com&rnum=4>

Scroll down to the playlists, and look who's in there.  ;)

Weird!  My tunes are being played at a goth/industrial night in DC.


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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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         http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or One

Well fancy meeting you here!!

I will finish (i.e. do!) the CD's tonight for you.
Hopefully see you over the weekend and they will be
yours.

I'm two minds about the Shadow 100 discs. They look
very nice and are probably quite collectible, but I
know that I'm NEVER gonna play either of the tunes.
Seems like a bit of a waste.

Think to sum up the confusion over them earlier, the
gold etched discs were Promo only and featured two
original tracks, one on each. The release version of
SHADOW100 had originals and remixes and therefore
there were more discs released.

Matt B

Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:51:45 +0100 
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Paul i-tunes is off to Amsterdam, dunno if he has gone
yet tho.

How much you selling it for matt? Any news on those
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is there such a tune or is it a windup?
 (see attached)
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Sorry only oldskool hardcore - 91-94 - I think Brittany was still an embryo
then - lol

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  Do you have a copy of the Brittany Spears 'hit me baby one more time'
hardcore remix?

  Thanks
  DJ dustycobweb

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Shadow 100 - Gold disc - Was it two or One

yeah that's the score.

SHADOW100
SHADOW100R1
SHADOW100R2

so 3 12's in total

but the gold discs are a double pack (not sure which of the above is
actually on them - guess SHADOW100 and SHADOW100R1 (did have them - but like
Matt says not much point in keeping if your not gonna play em)

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Well fancy meeting you here!!

I will finish (i.e. do!) the CD's tonight for you.
Hopefully see you over the weekend and they will be
yours.

I'm two minds about the Shadow 100 discs. They look
very nice and are probably quite collectible, but I
know that I'm NEVER gonna play either of the tunes.
Seems like a bit of a waste.

Think to sum up the confusion over them earlier, the
gold etched discs were Promo only and featured two
original tracks, one on each. The release version of
SHADOW100 had originals and remixes and therefore
there were more discs released.

Matt B

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Paul i-tunes is off to Amsterdam, dunno if he has gone
yet tho.

How much you selling it for matt? Any news on those
cds for me?

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u can't have attatchments on tha list anymore mate.


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> is there such a tune or is it a windup?
>  (see attached)
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> Sorry only oldskool hardcore - 91-94 - I think Brittany was still an
embryo
> then - lol
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
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>   Sent: 03 October 2002 17:49
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>
>
>   Do you have a copy of the Brittany Spears 'hit me baby one more time'
> hardcore remix?
>
>   Thanks
>   DJ dustycobweb
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Worth a Chukkle

attached as in the e-mail at the bottom of the message :)

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u can't have attatchments on tha list anymore mate.


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> is there such a tune or is it a windup?
>  (see attached)
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> Sorry only oldskool hardcore - 91-94 - I think Brittany was still an
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> then - lol
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
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>   -----Original Message-----
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>   Sent: 03 October 2002 17:49
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>
>   Do you have a copy of the Brittany Spears 'hit me baby one more time'
> hardcore remix?
>
>   Thanks
>   DJ dustycobweb
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One of these tunes I'm getting is another one of those mashups of different 
tunes, the main basis for this one being Dreamfinder, has the catalogue 
number "INVISIBLE 002"...is this the Dey Not Dead version?

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dunno but i have a techno mix of ooops i did it again ;op

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> is there such a tune or is it a windup?
>  (see attached)
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
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>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> Sorry only oldskool hardcore - 91-94 - I think Brittany
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> then - lol
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
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> www.oldskoolmadness.com
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>   -----Original Message-----
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>   Sent: 03 October 2002 17:49
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>
>
>   Do you have a copy of the Brittany Spears 'hit me baby
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> hardcore remix?
>
>   Thanks
>   DJ dustycobweb
>

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Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)

tune is running straight thru me ears round me brain and has taken full
control - its such a simple tune, couldn't hold it up for a production award
or nothing but its so compelling...... mmmmmmm nice

what's doing your nut?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

What a tune - another one of me most wanted!

Dope On Plastic has been going through my head all morning, so fucking good 
when it kicks in!

>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)
>
>tune is running straight thru me ears round me brain and has taken full
>control - its such a simple tune, couldn't hold it up for a production 
>award
>or nothing but its so compelling...... mmmmmmm nice
>
>what's doing your nut?
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
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Subject: (oldschool) Can You Feel The Rush

This has been bugging me for a while - which mix is it that has the piano 
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Subject: (oldschool) The return of the mack

Yes y'all, I'm back in this motherf*cker.

> It's been done.  "Finite" by Saturnalia on Extatic 002 from '94.  Fucking
> TUNE.  Uses the la-la-la-la vocals atop great pianos and beats.  I'll put
> that up sometime soon.

Yes indeed - that's one of the last ever really "old skool" sounding tunes
IMO, the other side is quite phat 2....

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Not sure but the kemet remix is shite and cheesy.

Eddie got me the original :)

My all time fave tune.


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That could be the mix I'm after then =) It may be cheesy but I reckon it's 
fucking wicked...

Cheers!

>Not sure but the kemet remix is shite and cheesy.
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I might have it at home and i definately don't want it.

I'll let you know.

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That could be the mix I'm after then =) It may be cheesy but I reckon it's 
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Cheers!

>Not sure but the kemet remix is shite and cheesy.
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>Eddie got me the original :)
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>My all time fave tune.
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the original is the one to have and also has the piano section on it :)

the original has beem reissued and is not that hard to find. The original
pressing on Ibiza is well difficult to get hold of

Eddie

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the kemet one is the stringy one, u can find the piano one on the Ibiza
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Flamin' heck, the confusion!!! The mix I'm thinking of is superb, so it must 
be the original if the remix is poo. Just I remember hearing a version on a 
Strictly Underground compilation that didn't have any piano in it at all, I 
assumed that was the original...

>the original is the one to have and also has the piano section on it :)
>
>the original has beem reissued and is not that hard to find. The original
>pressing on Ibiza is well difficult to get hold of
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> Flamin' heck, the confusion!!! The mix I'm thinking of is superb, so it
must
> be the original if the remix is poo. Just I remember hearing a version on
a
> Strictly Underground compilation that didn't have any piano in it at all,
I
> assumed that was the original...

Yeah, I thought that too, but the one you're after is the remix, it's on the
mothership EP i think. I won it off Twist on ebay, he took about 53782 years
to send it to me. Good EP though I seem to remember, top tune.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, DJ Moody wrote:
> Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)
>
> tune is running straight thru me ears round me brain and has taken full
> control - its such a simple tune, couldn't hold it up for a production award
> or nothing but its so compelling...... mmmmmmm nice
>
> what's doing your nut?

A couple of them at the current mo:

Saturnalia "Finite" [Extatic] -- choice '94 piano hardcore sampling
   some of the vocal licks from Opus III "It's A Fine Day"
ent.T "Altered State #1" [Ibiza] -- total fuckin' lunacy squeezed into
   about four and a half minutes by the guy who went on to become
   Technical Itch
Edge Of Darkness "Fantastic Voyage" [ADR] -- mental darkside that's
   usually overlooked from Dave Charlesworth

MP3s upon request, or on Soulseek.

Take care,
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Can You Feel The Rush

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vicky Vale wrote:
> Not sure but the kemet remix is shite and cheesy.

Oh, come now, they're both class.  A bit different, and indeed I like the
original better, but I wouldn't wipe the Kemet remix off of me if it was a
piece of cow dung.  :)

> Eddie got me the original :)
>
> My all time fave tune.

It's definitely up there for me.

Haven't read ahead yet, but it is the original that has the piano part in
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

hello Moody

>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)

do ya have a sound clip of this by any chance?

I got Dis Jah Sound EP on red vinyl, but haven't heard any of the other BTB 
stuff

who was Dragonfly?? where did they go?

>what's doing your nut?

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Subject: (oldschool) Re: What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

Yeah Dragonfly is a wicked little tune! Original is
very nice, very simple but very nice. 92 mix is good
as well.

I've been listening to Freddy Fudpukker - Drink It In
The Sun EP on Symphony Sounds a lot recently. All 4
tunes are excellent. Very underrated tracks. Think
this is a Nookie production isn't it??

Matt B

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Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB
Records)

tune is running straight thru me ears round me brain
and has taken full
control - its such a simple tune, couldn't hold it up
for a production 
award
or nothing but its so compelling...... mmmmmmm nice

what's doing your nut?

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Can You Feel The Rush

Sorry I hate cheese and hard house.

;o(

Just my opinion tho' people.

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Vicky Vale wrote:
> Not sure but the kemet remix is shite and cheesy.

Oh, come now, they're both class.  A bit different, and indeed I like the
original better, but I wouldn't wipe the Kemet remix off of me if it was a
piece of cow dung.  :)

> Eddie got me the original :)
>
> My all time fave tune.

It's definitely up there for me.

Haven't read ahead yet, but it is the original that has the piano part in
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Take care,
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I thought it was Mickey Finn, tho I can't remember where I heard that from? 
Ye've just made me think of Mystery (flip to Suspension Of Disbelief by The 
Man Like The Pennywise), now that's heavily underrated!

>I've been listening to Freddy Fudpukker - Drink It In
>The Sun EP on Symphony Sounds a lot recently. All 4
>tunes are excellent. Very underrated tracks. Think
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>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB
>Records)
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>tune is running straight thru me ears round me brain
>and has taken full
>control - its such a simple tune, couldn't hold it up
>for a production
>award
>or nothing but its so compelling...... mmmmmmm nice
>
>what's doing your nut?
>
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I played it at the end of last weeks show - have to tune in a bit earlier -
lol

no idea who they were though

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hello Moody

>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)

do ya have a sound clip of this by any chance?

I got Dis Jah Sound EP on red vinyl, but haven't heard any of the other BTB
stuff

who was Dragonfly?? where did they go?

>what's doing your nut?

Bizzy B - Dark III (Science EP Part 2) - Whitehouese





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Subject: RE: (oldschool) What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

BTB licensed AFTER DARK - Asylum as well, which had Atlantis on the flip, 
top tunage

Now whatever happened to David Charlesworth? Last I heard of him was on one 
of the 2 on 1 series?

>I played it at the end of last weeks show - have to tune in a bit earlier -
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I agree - that EP with Suspension of Disbelief and Mystery on the flip is an
absolute corker

another tune that got played on the show on Tuesday (by DJ Lock-up)

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I thought it was Mickey Finn, tho I can't remember where I heard that from?
Ye've just made me think of Mystery (flip to Suspension Of Disbelief by The
Man Like The Pennywise), now that's heavily underrated!

>I've been listening to Freddy Fudpukker - Drink It In
>The Sun EP on Symphony Sounds a lot recently. All 4
>tunes are excellent. Very underrated tracks. Think
>this is a Nookie production isn't it??
>
>Matt B
>
>Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 13:23:14 +0100
>To: "Oldskool List" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>From: "DJ Moody" <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com>
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>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB
>Records)
>
>tune is running straight thru me ears round me brain
>and has taken full
>control - its such a simple tune, couldn't hold it up
>for a production
>award
>or nothing but its so compelling...... mmmmmmm nice
>
>what's doing your nut?
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
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>www.interface-radio.co.uk
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At 09:58 04/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
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>
>do ya have a sound clip of this by any chance?

I'm gonna stick a copy on ebay in the next few days along with some other 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Can You Feel The Rush

to clear up any confusion, this is the original version on Ibiza

http://www.top-tuna.com/tunes/canyoufeeltherush.rm

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> Flamin' heck, the confusion!!! The mix I'm thinking of is superb, so it
must
> be the original if the remix is poo. Just I remember hearing a version on
a
> Strictly Underground compilation that didn't have any piano in it at all,
I
> assumed that was the original...
>
> >the original is the one to have and also has the piano section on it :)
> >
> >the original has beem reissued and is not that hard to find. The original
> >pressing on Ibiza is well difficult to get hold of
> >
> >Eddie
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> > > Not sure but the kemet remix is shite and cheesy.
> > >
> > > Eddie got me the original :)
> > >
> > > My all time fave tune.
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> > > This has been bugging me for a while - which mix is it that has the
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ID

yeah this was a kind of bootleg of Day Not Dead...  The people behind this
INVISIBLE 002 white label were the Ektos crew from the South West who used
to run free parties with DJ Easygroove etc.

INVISIBLE 001 is that extremely rare live recording of Easygroove doing a
mix of Lonnie Gordon & Android for ages.

All good stuff
Mike

DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk


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One of these tunes I'm getting is another one of those mashups of different
tunes, the main basis for this one being Dreamfinder, has the catalogue
number "INVISIBLE 002"...is this the Dey Not Dead version?


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Hip hop sampling oldskool

Yeh from a very early Free Future Music CD.
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> > US gangsta rapper Xzibit has sampled the opening bell-loop lick from
> > Origin Unknown's "Valley Of The Shadows"
>
> Not nessessarily... more likely sampled from the same Public Domain sample
> CD Andy C used.
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Subject: (oldschool) In tha post!!

Wooohooo!!

Guy Called Gerald - Sunshine - Juicebox

I'm well pleased, not only have I finally got the mix of Sunshine Ive wanted
since 1994, turned it over to check out the b-side and its got a tune on Ive
wanted since 1992!! ;o))

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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

John B - American Girls

!


http://www.beta-recordings.co.uk/americangirls/


chooon!

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10/4/2002 10:10:43 AM, "DJ Moody" <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com> wrote:

>I played it at the end of last weeks show - have to tune in a bit earlier -
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>no idea who they were though
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>
>hello Moody
>
>>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)
>
>do ya have a sound clip of this by any chance?
>
>I got Dis Jah Sound EP on red vinyl, but haven't heard any of the other BTB
>stuff
>
>who was Dragonfly?? where did they go?
>
>>what's doing your nut?
>
>Bizzy B - Dark III (Science EP Part 2) - Whitehouese
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) What tune is frying your brain at the moment?

anyone got any audio for this one?  don't know the name to match the tune.


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> At 09:58 04/10/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >>Listening to Visions of Rage - Dragon Fly - (BTB Records)
> >
> >do ya have a sound clip of this by any chance?
>
> I'm gonna stick a copy on ebay in the next few days along with some other
> rare stuff. Encoded a clip the other night... Ill send it over ICQ later
if
> u want it  Liam!
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Subject: (oldschool) Prodigy sample sourcing

<http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:zsEyalJtxLYC:www.saunalahti.fi/~luite/Music/Prodigy-samples.html+%22put+it+in+reverse%22+sample&hl=en&ie=UTF-8>

Cool link, only cached tho 



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Subject: (oldschool) MP3s for the weekend...

As promised, here's some of my favorite tunes that I've been playing
nonstop recently.  I was going to just leave Soulseek on, but it keeps
leaking memory and crashing my system.  I guess by doing this, I manage to
get myself out of a long-overdue Breakizm update... can I put that off
any longer?  I think so!  :)

Anyway, here they are.  Be sure to mind the wraparound.

Goldseal Tribe "Goldrush 160" [Goldseal GOLDSEAL004E-A1]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/Goldseal_Tribe-Goldrush_160.mp3

DJ Chemistry meets Jack Smooth "Alchemy" [Homegrown HG015-A]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/DJ_Chemistry_meets_Jack_Smooth-Alchemy.mp3

ent.T "Altered State #1" [Ibiza IRO30-B2]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/Ent_T-Altered_State_No_1.mp3

DJ Spice "The New Style Part 2" [Soapbar SBR008-B]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/DJ_Spice-The_New_Style_Part_2.mp3

Edge Of Darkness "Hell Raiser" [ADR ADR011-B]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/Edge_Of_Darkness-Hell_Raiser.mp3

Equation "Bass Xplosion" [White label EQUATION-B]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/Equation-Bass_Xplosion.mp3

Saturnalia "Finite" [Extatic EXRE002-B]
http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/audio/Random/Saturnalia-Finite.mp3

Enjoy, and have a great weekend, everyone!

Take care,
- Chris Purity Control


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Subject: (oldschool) in the post today!!!! wohooooo!!!!!

lifeline ep- clubsonic- great asset records

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) in the post today!!!! wohooooo!!!!!

nice 1 - is top tune - and rare as

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lifeline ep- clubsonic- great asset records

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in my post yesterday: 

DJ Crystl - Drop XTC - Lucky Spin 1 in Original Sleeve and perfect cond. for 7 Euro, that's 5 pounds... :)) eeeeeeasy!


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Planet V - Techno Confusions (Techno Ware)

UNPLAYED & sent over from the US...

Wicked '92 tune that Clarkee used to play at Dreamscape etc.

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Subject: (oldschool) From some shops today...

A nice welcome back to the tune hunting Saturdays ;o)

Fast Floor - Plight of the innovators - Smooth
Wax Doctor - New direction 93 remix - Basement
Chemical - Hex - Basement
Conquering Lion - Code red - X Project
DMS - Exterminate - Production House
DMS - Vengance - Production House
Heavyweight Vol2
Motiv8 - Break the chain (Slammin Vinyl remix)

All for a highly respectable 45 quid!

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Subject: (oldschool) New Unknown ID needed

just uploaded a new unknown , apparently its a white label  & its a wicked
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http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/soeunknown.rm


anyone know it ??

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Wax Doctor - New direction 93 remix - Basement
are you off loading this one martyn ;o)
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> A nice welcome back to the tune hunting Saturdays ;o)
> 
> Fast Floor - Plight of the innovators - Smooth
> Wax Doctor - New direction 93 remix - Basement
> Chemical - Hex - Basement
> Conquering Lion - Code red - X Project
> DMS - Exterminate - Production House
> DMS - Vengance - Production House
> Heavyweight Vol2
> Motiv8 - Break the chain (Slammin Vinyl remix)
> 
> All for a highly respectable 45 quid!
> 
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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i think it sounds like skanna -ceasefire.??????????theres the white label
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got the white label and how different is it.
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> just uploaded a new unknown , apparently its a white label  & its a wicked
> tune
>
> here is the URL :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/soeunknown.rm
>
>
> anyone know it ??
>
> Mike
>
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it is Skanna - 12WYHS010

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i think it sounds like skanna -ceasefire.??????????theres the white label
and the whitehouse tune,and it sounds the same as my whitehouse one.who's
got the white label and how different is it.
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> just uploaded a new unknown , apparently its a white label  & its a wicked
> tune
>
> here is the URL :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/soeunknown.rm
>
>
> anyone know it ??
>
> Mike
>
> DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
> http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
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cheers guys,  never seen this one before....  don't u hate it when you think
you've heard everything wicked already ?!!!


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it is Skanna - 12WYHS010

Steve
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i think it sounds like skanna -ceasefire.??????????theres the white label
and the whitehouse tune,and it sounds the same as my whitehouse one.who's
got the white label and how different is it.
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> just uploaded a new unknown , apparently its a white label  & its a wicked
> tune
>
> here is the URL :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/soeunknown.rm
>
>
> anyone know it ??
>
> Mike
>
> DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
> http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) New Unknown ID needed

BTW - my copy has the label removed(!?!!?) and cat no scratched out
Dunno if the others are like this!

At 17:04 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
>cheers guys,  never seen this one before....  don't u hate it when you think
>you've heard everything wicked already ?!!!
>
>
>DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
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>-----Original Message-----
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>
>it is Skanna - 12WYHS010
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
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>www.oldskoolmadness.com
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>
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>
>i think it sounds like skanna -ceasefire.??????????theres the white label
>and the whitehouse tune,and it sounds the same as my whitehouse one.who's
>got the white label and how different is it.
>----- Original Message -----
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>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:20 PM
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>
> > just uploaded a new unknown , apparently its a white label  & its a wicked
> > tune
> >
> > here is the URL :-
> >
> > http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/soeunknown.rm


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At 16:36 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
>.who's
>got the white label and how different is it.

I think mines the white label!! - its exactly the same as far as track in 
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these are from mr postman and car boot.
eon-basket case,
rotor-kaleidoscope-chill,
the original gangsters of freestyle-brooklyn groove productions-1991,
dragon fly 4 u ep-steppin razor 002,
rennie p-got to be free,
dr1-white,
house crew-keep the fires burning,
supermarket-ray keith rmx-1992,
ellis 1-white,
mk 13-intensify the power-ssr1004,
carl cox-lets do it/success & effect-white,
shadow 19,
r&s tz10,
dj deckjammer-ft001,
cosmic twist ep-white,
sycometrix ep-white,
limeted e-cw001,
bass 2 base-rhythm section recs,
dea-injunction feaver ep-white,
edge records 004,
melodic ep vol 1,
spiral tribe ep,
sep-virtual reatitl-meltdown,
krispy krouton ep vol 1,x 2,
ber 002-prophecy,
bi recs 003,
equation-white,
funky junky-promo,
fusion base ep-white,
tango & fallout-positive chaos,
dj jinx-paradise project-mm003,
tango & dom-dv001,
fozbee & cooz-anp004,
e-motions ep-white,
krackpotz vol 1-786,
universe recs 001,
metroid-digital nrg-ocean recs,
ellis dee project pt 3,
"                        " 4,
btl-dole dodgers ep-btl007,
liberation-zyx(is this the original tune to use the piano riff from =
piano hardcore-bear necessities 001).

and a few to trade
frankie knuckles-move your body-trax 004,
crystal waters-la da dee (you never know ;o)
gto-pure,
the klf-america what time is love,
josh wink-higher state of ,
warp 19,
dr fernando-r&s recs,
the four horseman ep,
warp 11,
space teddy,
ram 11r,
ram 7r,
klf-its grim up north,
moby -go-woodtick,
tc berry 1992,
edge recs 006-the brotherhood of structure,
kniteforce recs 001,
3 rude bwoy-dreader than dread ep-mad house 002,
nookie give a little love 93-reinforced 1255,
sly t& olly j-help me-bmit005.



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) From some shops today...

On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> A nice welcome back to the tune hunting Saturdays ;o)
>
> Fast Floor - Plight of the innovators - Smooth
> Wax Doctor - New direction 93 remix - Basement

Nice one, love that remix!  Totally mental when you're expecting one thing
and it goes off and does another.

> Chemical - Hex - Basement
> Conquering Lion - Code red - X Project
> DMS - Exterminate - Production House
> DMS - Vengance - Production House
> Heavyweight Vol2
> Motiv8 - Break the chain (Slammin Vinyl remix)

bwahahahaha, you're kidding me, I never knew the SV boys did a remix of
Motiv-8... and it's actually any good?

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) New Unknown ID needed

alright Leo

do you reckon its just a White House promo white label that they pressed up
?  I wonder if the official White House release is any different ?

Mike

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At 16:36 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
>.who's
>got the white label and how different is it.

I think mines the white label!! - its exactly the same as far as track in
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Subject: (oldschool) Skanna - Ceasefire

anyone got this up in RA or mp3 to listen to somewhere ?



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>>i think it sounds like skanna -ceasefire.??????????theres the white label
>>and the whitehouse tune,and it sounds the same as my whitehouse one.who's
>>>got the white label and how different is it.


it is Skanna - 12WYHS010

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i see on raptures discocs on skanna,no 2 is missing does any one know what
this is ,it might be ceasefire but on they're own label?????.
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> alright Leo
>
> do you reckon its just a White House promo white label that they pressed
up
> ?  I wonder if the official White House release is any different ?
>
> Mike
>
> DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
> http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> At 16:36 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >.who's
> >got the white label and how different is it.
>
> I think mines the white label!! - its exactly the same as far as track in
> the clip goes
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nah not gonna be IMO - Skanna's own label is like mid 93 - ceasefire is very
early 92.

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i see on raptures discocs on skanna,no 2 is missing does any one know what
this is ,it might be ceasefire but on they're own label?????.
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> alright Leo
>
> do you reckon its just a White House promo white label that they pressed
up
> ?  I wonder if the official White House release is any different ?
>
> Mike
>
> DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
> http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
> At 16:36 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
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> >got the white label and how different is it.
>
> I think mines the white label!! - its exactly the same as far as track in
> the clip goes
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) New Unknown ID needed

I cant tell for sure Mike,

whoever tried to remove the label made a right mess of it - its sticky and 
u can see bits of print still left on it!! The cat number is well 
mullered,but it could be Whitehouse - impossible to tell for sure. There is 
another number etched into the runout which u might be able to use : "PA6661"

Apart from that,all i can say for sure is it's a 4 tracker.


At 18:43 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
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>
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>
>Mike
>
>DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
>http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
>
>
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>At 16:36 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >.who's
> >got the white label and how different is it.
>
>I think mines the white label!! - its exactly the same as far as track in
>the clip goes
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) New Unknown ID needed

"PA6661" thats on my whitehouse copy too.
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> I cant tell for sure Mike,
>
> whoever tried to remove the label made a right mess of it - its sticky and
> u can see bits of print still left on it!! The cat number is well
> mullered,but it could be Whitehouse - impossible to tell for sure. There
is
> another number etched into the runout which u might be able to use :
"PA6661"
>
> Apart from that,all i can say for sure is it's a 4 tracker.
>
>
> At 18:43 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
> >alright Leo
> >
> >do you reckon its just a White House promo white label that they pressed
up
> >?  I wonder if the official White House release is any different ?
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
> >http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk
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> >
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> >
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> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Skanna - Ceasefire

I have a slightly longer RA clip of it than the unknown,can send that if u 
like m8

At 18:44 05/10/02 +0100, you wrote:
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Skanna - Ceasefire

its on raptures oldskool pages,under sound clips.
zak.
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> I have a slightly longer RA clip of it than the unknown,can send that if u
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Subject: (oldschool) New Shy fx  tune


Can anyone give me any detail on this new shy fx tune i've heard. its got 
the same vocalist as 'shake your body' and its made in the same theme as it.
its even better than shake your body, its slightly more aimed at the d&b 
posse rather than the charts.
if you ain't heard it yet its one to keep the ears peeled for. its the dogs 
dangleys.

dj joemac

ps just on the off chance does anyone know some sh#t hot vocalists. i make a 
tune or two myself and a fast singing diva would be the thing to finish off 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) From some shops today...

> > Motiv8 - Break the chain (Slammin Vinyl remix)
>
> bwahahahaha, you're kidding me, I never knew the SV boys did a remix of
> Motiv-8... and it's actually any good?

Yeah its not too bad, I got a copy off them years ago when you could buy
tunes direct before their release.
But that went to the MVE back in the day...
Its got a slight HHC tinge to it at the start, but the vocal/piano breakdown
in the middle is class.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) From some shops today...

> Wax Doctor - New direction 93 remix - Basement
> are you off loading this one martyn ;o)

Sorry mate, its the first copy Ive owned of it, so its staying put!

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Subject: (oldschool) 92 tune id needed


came out around 92 - housey hardcore tune - very deep and uplifting -  
fucking tune!! piano, deep dubby bass, and a girl singing "come and join the 
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Subject: (oldschool) anyone know Mr. Benn?


anyone know this DJ? i have set by him that was out in London in 92 - wicked 
mix - some jungle , some breakbeat house, some hardcore techno - wicked - if 
anyone knows this DJ, has any sets, or has his contact let me know

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) 92 tune id needed

slim chance it could be Tuff Little Unit - Join the Future on Warp records=

? =20

Ive got a clip of it on the web here

http://www=2Etop-tuna=2Ecome/tunes/future=2Erm

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came out around 92 - housey hardcore tune - very deep and uplifting - =20
fucking tune!! piano, deep dubby bass, and a girl singing "come and join
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Subject: (oldschool) Boo 7 October 12 Randalls island Stuck On Earth And Unity Present               

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Boo 7 October 12 Randalls island
Stuck On Earth And Unity Present
        BOO 7
-        Our Eighth annual music, arts, media and
multi- cultural festival.



                    --World Class Djs And
Artists
                               --Stunning Visual
Effects
                               --Latest Technological
Innovations
                               --Carnival Rides and
Attractions
                               --Food, Drinks and
Snacks
                               --Designated Alcohol
Areas


                             MAIN AREA- OPEN AIR STAGE

      =20
THE CRYSTAL METHOD=20

BT =20

X-ECUTIONERS AKA X-MEN=20
6 Turntable Showcase

BIOHAZARD
LIVE PERFORMANCE=20

GREEN VELVET & THE REJECTS
- Live Performance

  Si*S=E9=20
Live Performance

ROB GEE AND NATAS PRODUCTIONS
Live Performance

LIQUID TODD=20

DJ FUNK=20
  =20
DJ BAM BAM

DJ ORION

house -techno


ROGER SANCHEZ=20
                       =20
DOC MARTIN
                       =20
DONALD GLAUDE

CHARLES FEELGOOD

MARCO CAROLA VS. CHRISTAIN SMITH

RICHARD "HUMPTY" VISSION

FRANKIE BONES

ADAM X

HEATHER HEART

LOST VOYAGE STAGE- presented by Topaz Records

     =20
SANDRA COLLINS

SAEED AND PALASH   =20

DAVE RALPH

SCOTT HENRY

MICRO=20

Trendroid

DJ IRENE

SPACEGIRL=20

DJ X-DREAM

PLEASUREHEAD=20

DRUMN-BASS TENT- presented by Circle Management

DIESELBOY

DB

ED RUSH =20

J-MAJIK

MATRIX

OPTICAL

ODI VS. KECH

EMPRESS

JASON KENNEDY & KARL K

GARON
MC's FOR THE NIGHT:
MC RYMETYME
MC ARMANNI REIGN
MC POSI-D



      UNITY TENT=20

DJ P=20

J-SMOKE

WOOGIE

CRAIG G=20

DJ KORN

MINDFIELD

SARA WALKER

NICKY TWIST

J. (of ZION-I)



DAVID 'skwerm' ELLIS will be on hand creating graffiti
works of art.

Skwerm / B-Stormers


2 DJS WILL STILL BE ADDED!
WE ARE LOOKING FOR 2 NEWJACKS WITH DOPE SKILLS. ANY
GENRE. TO SPIN @ BOO7.=20
WINNERS WILL BE CONTACTED ONE WEEK BEFORE SHOW AND
POSTED ON=20
www.stuckonearth.com . =20
SEND 30 min. OR LESS MIXED CD TO: Unity productions
LLC 85 N. 3rd. st. SUITE=20
3i BROOKLYN, NY  11211



                    STUCK ON EARTH TENT

DJ BAM BAM- =20
LOVE SOUND PROJECT FEATURING:Chris Love, Billy Belmont
and Just Honey- =20
MATTHEW XAVIER- =20
SCOTTY MACK- =20
JOSH MATTHEWS-=20
ED VAZ- =20
RAWMINA- =20


northeast up and comers stage

Johnny Fame vs. Circuit Breaker- =20
ALAN SAX =20
KNOWLEDGE=20
GIL-T=20
DJ PAULY=20
KOSMIC HUSTLA & XENOL SMART-=20
DJ GOODFELLA=20
DRAE 192 & CHRIS INTEL=20
MYTH-IS =20
JOE JACK =20
DJ OZZY =20




THE EXPERIMENTAL ZONE
Presented by Deep Unda' Brooklyn
http://dub.supa.com

PH10=20
INSTRUCTION SHUTTLE =20
MERCY_KILLAH=20
AMES-ON=20
MALL=20
SHELDON DRAKE=20
SOCKS & SANDALS=20
HAZMAAT=20
AFRIK PROPHET=20
BLUEGREEN

LOCATION
NYC'S HISTORIC CONCERT VENUE: RANDALL'S ISLAND (rain
or shine)
There will be 8 seperate sound systems, six huge
circus style tents. =20

Parking : On site parking available (free)

Directions to Venue - will be posted on
www.stuckonearth.com



                                     =20
Security Restrictions      No......
weapons,drugs,coolers,pets,bottles,cans,beverages,food,chains,spikes,chairs,=
um

brellas,
fireworks and  FLYERS

PRODUCTION
AS ALWAYS WE WILL BRING IN THE BEST PRODUCTION TEAM IN
AMERICA=20
WE SETTLE FOR NO LESS THEN THE BEST

Sound- Once again, the rock steady sound of Total
Audio will be back providing their
custom designed Turbo sound Flashlight system for the
festival masses. Total=20
Audio is renowned for setting the sound standard
within the electronica=20
world. Total Audio-1 800 395 4109

Lighting- the world famous excel lighting company is
going to make Randall's Island look amazing with their
top of the line lazers, technobeams, echobeams,
studiospots and strobes

Visuals-funk taxi 1533 And OPTICAL DELUSION-Get ready
for the most amazing visuals you will ever witness, as
funk taxi and OPTICAL DELUSION  set's up shop in four
tents. They're unique style and originality which no
other companies can match=20

Decorations- Funk Taxi 1533

Phoenix rising- fire dancers and stilt walkers

             =20
  Carnival
FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, BOO WILL ALSO FEATURE A FULL
ON CARNIVAL, COMPLETE WITH TRADITIONAL RIDES SUCH AS A
FERRIS WHEEL, BUMPER CARS, GAMES ETC.=20

BOO WILL BE AN ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS EVENT, WE
MUST RESPECT RANDALL'S ISLAND AND THE CITY



WATER-PLENTY OF ICE-COLD WATER WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE
AT A LOW COST. FROM 6 SEPARATE WATER STATIONS.

FOOD- FOOD WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE IN TWO SEPARATE
AREAS LOCATED EVENLY THROUGHOUT THE VENUE.  ITEMS SUCH
AS HAMBURGERS, HOT DOGS, CHICKEN FINGERS, FRIES, CHIPS
AND VARIOUS VEGETARIAN ITEMS WILL BE SOLD AT AN
AFFORDABLE COST.


BEER/ ALCOHOL- ARGUABLY ONE OF OUR MOST POPULAR AREAS
FOR BOO 6, WE HAVE MADE CERTAIN THAT FOR BOO 7, WE
PROVIDE YOU 2 LARGE SEPARATE BEER AND ALCOHOL GARDENS
FOR ALL YOUR 21 AND OVER BEVERAGE NEEDS.  21 AND OVER
ID IS REQUIRED. DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE.


HOTELS: FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE COMING FROM OUT OF
STATE WE SUGGEST MAKING RESERVATIONS AT THE FOLLOWING
HOTELS.=20
New Yorker-212-301-2285     hilton-212-355-3000  crown
plaza-212-986-8800 sheraton-212-581-1000


BUS TRIPS: ALL PROMOTERS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DOING A
BUS TRIP PLEASE CALL=20
(212) 780-4614 OR E-MAIL: Dana@stuckonearth.com

VENDING: PLEASE CALL 212-780-4614 OR E-MAIL:
Dana@stuckonearth.com

BATHROOMS:  WE WILL BE BRINGING IN MORE THAN PLENTY OF
PORT-A-POTS AND THEY WILL BE PLACED IN DESIGNATED
AREAS THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND.

All ages event
11am-11pm

TICKETPRICE: $55 IN ADVANCE=20
PLEASE PURCHASE TICKETS IN ADVANCE. THIS EVENT WILL
SELL OUT. BE SURE TO ONLY PURCHACE TICKETS FROM THE
OUTLETS LISTED BELOW.


TICKET LOCATIONS

NYC
SATELLITE-                               212-780-9305
SONIC GROOVE                        212-675-5284
BREAKBEAT SCIENCE            212-995-2592


LONG ISLAND
CAFFEINE             =20
516-797-7196
EAST-WEST-                              631-451-0034
FUNTAZIA-                                516-520-0990


NJ
CAF=C9 SOUNDS                             973-509-2233
VIP RECORDS                              732-866-9984

PENNSYLVANIA
611 RECORDS                            215-413-9100

MASSACHUSETTS-
SATELLITE-                                =20
617-536-5482

CONNECTICUT
SPIRITUAL EMPORIUM               860-524-9719

DC
YOSHI TOSHI                                 =20
202-338-5638

OHIO
ALL CITY BEATS                            614-291-0210


TICKETMASTER=20
212-307-7171, 845-454-3388, 201-507-8900,
631-888-9000, 609-520-8383, 203-624-0033
WWW.TICKETMASTER.COM
The Wiz,Tower Records, Scotti's record shops, HMV
Records Stores, Filene's,Compact Disc World,
J&R Music World, Ritmo Latino

www.ticketweb.com


*To find out how you can help and become a part of BOO
7, please e-mail Flips@stuckonearth.com=20


Look out for  , Joy 6, our annual benefit to feed the
homeless on December 19th, 2002.  Full info and
details on this event coming soon.  Log onto
www.stuckonearth.com for info.


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Something I put together over this weekend. A remix of Dread Bass in a =
Nu Skool Breaks Style although someone has already said it sounds like =
G*r*ge. Im not up on either of them two scenes. I have listed to one or =
two Nu Skool Breaks Mixes from nuskoolbreaks.co.uk and it sounded =
similar to what I made, although when I was making it I was thinking is =
this G*r*ge!!! It weighs in at 150bpm and features the original What the =
time vocal I got from the acapella of the reggae tune Dead Dread =
sampled. Have a listen and let me know what you think.

Is it G*r*ge?????????

Real Audio link

http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/Components/PlayFile.asp?PID=3D205308&Rnd=
=3D915

56k MP3

http://www.acidplanet.com/Lounge/Components/Download.asp?PID=3D205308&Rnd=
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) New Shy fx  tune

its called 'Don't Wanna Know'
Headed for a chart release as a video has been made for it :)

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>weighs in at 150bpm and features the original What the time vocal I got
>from the acapella of the reggae tune Dead Dread sampled. Have a listen
>and let me know what you think.

err.. afaik it's just vocal samples in the intros on tunes on the "best
dressed chicken in town" album by dr alimantando... no a cappellas or any
magic needed.. =)

..the "poison flour" and the other tune.. forgot which .. the one which
has the "soldia man come back' round da corna" or whatnot sample :)

oh and nah, doesnt sound like 2s g*r*ge/gayrage/garbage/(use your
favourite diss word) really imo.. 



- r <r@jungli.st>

"rhythm is fundamental to the spirit, like the beat of a tribal
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Subject: (oldschool) Re: [jumpup] Full Recycle update

At 23:44 02.10.2002 +0100, DJ Destiny wrote:
>Also, can anyone confirm the samples used in Burial by Leviticus? Ive got
>some ideas, but cant find the source tunes to check em out....

ah, with a little help from the erdloch kru (hymie & wiget):

jigsy king & tony curtis - "my sound a murder"

features the two samples:

  "it's a wonder, you can't come out here"  (tony curtis)

  "big, bad and heavy, any sound test we tonight
   dem a go bury, watch this"  (jigsy king)



- r <r@jungli.st>

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Subject: (oldschool) Bargain Sales

got a few things that didn't sell on Ebay :-

Total Output - Acid mind (FX)
Reel II Reel - I'll Be Back EP (IE)
DAC Robinson - Two Minds EP (Rabbit City)
Raving Mad - Addict (786 White Label)
Monica DeLuxe - Move To The Music (CT)

will sell each one for £3, which includes P&P or if someone wants to buy all
5, will do it for £12 the lot

first come first served.  They will go in the bin otherwise !

cheers
Mike




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Subject: (oldschool) something to think about......

just posted this on the b2vos forum, would like to hear people's responses
to what i have to say. Sorry if you have to read or responde
twice.--------------

Sorry to bring this kinda topic up, but me and a mate had a very thought
provoking coversation. I thought that it was very pertinent to everyone who
loves oldskool.

Can any of you guys see yourselves buying oldskool in 5 years time? For me,
i think the answer is no. As by that stage i would have got just about
everything that i class as 'good'. But at what cost??? I have spent the last
7 years buying 'oldskool' records, and am about £10,000 in debt to student
loans, credit cards and overdrafts. i tell myself that i have invested my
money in records (must be worth on Ebay £15-20,000). Which i keep telling
myself is a good way to have spent my money and don't feel bad about having
so much debt, as if the worst came to the very worst i can always sell 'em.

But who's to say in maybe 5 years time these records will have any where
near their current value??? I mean i ask my brother (now turned 18 what he
thinks 'oldskool' is? He just gives me a blank expression and says 'dunno'.
I think it is only us people 'mainly' that were there that actually
appreciate the genre. (i underdstand that there are still a lot of young
guys that weren't there first time around that are weel into it, but i ask
myself is this just 'cos it's currently fashionable????

So therfore the crux of my argument is thus, is there any point in owning
2000 records, where you will only reasonably play 200 regularly????? What's
the point in collecting records 'just to have them'????? Basically for me, i
have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso that they will
still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell them. For all we know
the 'fashionable' aspect of oldskool may have been lost in a few years time.
Leaving everyone with a stupid amount of debts and 'negative equity'.

This amy come accross as a little bit superficial, as i am only looking at
it from a monetary perspective and not from the nostalgic aspect that theses
records hold for all of us.

But basically i feel that it's time to realise that this whole dream can't
last forever. i don't see why i should continue to financially cripplle
myself every month to pay for tunes that aren't gonna maintain their value,
nor are they gonna appeal to anyone apart from myself in the years to come.

Sorry it's turned into a bit of an essay bit i'd like to hear what you guys
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Subject: (oldschool) Breakizm updates

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to let you all know that my website, Breakizm, has been
updated for the first time in nearly 8 months today.  There's several new
label scans and sound samples for the Ibiza and Soapbar label -- a
complete listing is available on the main page of what's new.  Feel free
to check it out at the following addy:

   http://www.niceboots.com/breakizm/

And as always, if you have any scans, high quality MP3s, or discography
information to contribute, don't hesitate to contact me.  Also please let
me know if any links are broken or MP3s have skips -- I didn't have a
chance to double-check everything.  Thanks much.

Take care,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

on 7/10/02 8:46 AM, Richard Wyatt at dj_aztek@btinternet.com wrote:

> just posted this on the b2vos forum, would like to hear people's responses
> to what i have to say. Sorry if you have to read or responde
> twice.--------------

Who knows what they will be worth in another few years? Could be double what
they are now. I mean - look at stamps, star wars figures etc. If someone
told me when I was in my pre-teens that I could get 50 squid for luke
skywalker in his jedi outfit, I would of never rolled em around in the dirt,
chewed on em when I was going for an afternoon nap or even stuck em up
m'dogs bum.

On the other side, you could be right. They might be worth sod all and you
could be still in 10,000 debt plus another 10,000 on what you spent on yer
records in the first place. Who knows?

In all honesty, I am really surpirsed how much records have been changing
hands for in the first place and think it is bloody ridiculous. Its usually
the people who dont care about them in the first place and basically are in
it for the money. This in turn forces it to be such an expensive for people
like us who generally do want to get the record.

Personally, I have never payed more that UKP8 for a record and still refuse
to. Anyone who asks me for more can take a run and jump. I still have so
many records that I want (100's) but hey, i'm in no rush to get them.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) in the post 

Jeez, you really know how to make someone feel ill. You have picked up more
OS this weekend than I have this year. Anyone fancy doing some boot shopping
for me? :)

Colin Dee.

on 6/10/02 12:49 AM, dj hectic at zak.newnham1@btinternet.com wrote:

> these are from mr postman and car boot.
> eon-basket case,
> rotor-kaleidoscope-chill,
> the original gangsters of freestyle-brooklyn groove productions-1991,
> dragon fly 4 u ep-steppin razor 002,
> rennie p-got to be free,
> dr1-white,
> house crew-keep the fires burning,
> supermarket-ray keith rmx-1992,
> ellis 1-white,
> mk 13-intensify the power-ssr1004,
> etc. etc. etc.
> etc. etc. etc.
> etc. etc. etc.
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>Sorry it's turned into a bit of an essay bit i'd like to hear what you guys
>have to say on the matter.

well, sir... i must congratulate you with your your evil plan in making
such an essay in the hopes that people will stop collecting oldskool and
start a mass-sell hysteria so you can get everything yourself ;D

(just had to)

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Subject: (oldschool) (OT) World Peace

This is something that would stay in the history books forever. LOL.

<http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,5230115%255E13780,00.html>


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10/6/2002 8:46:13 PM, "Richard Wyatt" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com> wrote:

>Can any of you guys see yourselves buying oldskool in 5 years time? 

Yes, because the word "old skool" will refer to something else then, maybe something later ;)

>So therfore the crux of my argument is thus, is there any point in owning
>2000 records, where you will only reasonably play 200 regularly????? 

2,000?!  I have 4,000 records, and get booked for almost every style I have records in!

>But basically i feel that it's time to realise that this whole dream can't
>last forever. i don't see why i should continue to financially cripplle
>myself every month to pay for tunes that aren't gonna maintain their value,
>nor are they gonna appeal to anyone apart from myself in the years to come.

Maybe you should start practicing and start getting gigs.  :)



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Can anyone recommend some email discussion lists for these genres or 
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I'm specifically looking for the scoop on new releases from smaller 
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lol


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I think I have a copy of this somewhere Id be able to swap. Give me a mail!

Peter Smith


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> Wax Doctor - New direction 93 remix - Basement
> are you off loading this one martyn ;o)

Sorry mate, its the first copy Ive owned of it, so its staying put!

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Its out now on vinyl (which is nice considering Shake ur body took about 8
months to come out). Got Skibadee doing the intro too. Bit too Shy FX'y for
me.

Peter Smith


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its called 'Don't Wanna Know'
Headed for a chart release as a video has been made for it :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

>2,000?!  I have 4,000 records, and get booked for almost every style I have 
>records in!

christ that's a lot of tunes! - how long you been buying wax for Ian?

>But basically i feel that it's time to realise that this whole dream >can't 
>last forever. i don't see why i should continue to financially >cripplle
> >myself every month to pay for tunes that aren't gonna maintain their 
>value,
> >nor are they gonna appeal to anyone apart from myself in the years to 
>come.
>
>Maybe you should start practicing and start getting gigs.  :)

i hear what you are saying Richard - i go through that kind of dissonance 
from time to time, but i seriously think i will be mixing records for the 
love of it for many many years - of course age could take a toll on me, but 
i think i will - music is a great release

but what Ian says is tue - a few months ago i was getting seriously 
depressed about DJing, because nobody really knew who i was, sketchy people 
were taking advantage of my newness, i wasn't getting booked for jungle 
parties, and i was getting used and abused - most gigs i would get were 
private parties and art showings where people generally wanted to hear 
house/hiphop/r&b ... or if i did play a jungle party it was a bunch of 
nuskool kids who have no interest in classic jungle ...

seriously the rudeness and disrespectful attitude of some of the people i 
would play for was really disillusioning - it left me very bitter and i felt 
like i'd be better off staying a bedroom DJ, and, like you, i felt like my 
big quest for rare vinyl had maybe been a waste of time, money and effort

but then i started handing out CDs to all kinds of people, geting booked for 
proper gigs, and playing for wicked crowds. and now i get people giving me 
all kinds of nice feedback - somebody came up to me at a jam and said they 
only came cuz they heard my CD and wanted to hear me spin  - to me that is 
SO rewarding to hear that

basically, if a few people come out of their way to see me spin, or put my 
CD on when they want to chill to some jungle, then that is mission 
accomplished, i guess  =)

I've heard your darkside mixes and they are absolutely wicked, so don't 
e-bay those tunes just yet =)   get out there and do some brilliant mix CDs 
of all those crazy tunes you have, do some pirate radio like you were saying 
the other day, and DJ some proper underground parties and it will make it 
worthwhile

just my $.02

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

> Can any of you guys see yourselves buying oldskool in 5 years time? For
me,
> i think the answer is no.

Ive been buying them for 10 years so far, Im 30 this year and if it was a
"passing fad" Im sure I would of lost interest by now!

> But who's to say in maybe 5 years time these records will have any where
> near their current value???

Who cares? Yes, its nice to see tunes you have got go for crazy money on
ebay.
But, I dont collection tunes for their value, I collect them cause I love
them, its my hobby, my main interest.
IMO once you start to rely on it all to make money, the love is lost.
I couldnt care a fuck if they are totally worthless in 5 years time, cause
to me they are priceless.
Yes, Ive also spent a small fortune over the years buying tunes, but think
of it this way... pretty much all other hobbies/interests/collections also
cost alot of cash if you get really serious about it.

> I mean i ask my brother (now turned 18 what he
> thinks 'oldskool' is? He just gives me a blank expression and says 'dunno'

Thats because oldskool is a generic term used to describe pretty much
anything, not just music, and certainly not just old hardcore from 92/3.
Oldskool rap, oldskool hiphop, oldskool clothes. oldskool dancing, oldskool
this oldskool that....
On the other hand, if you asked him what breakbeat hardcore was, he probably
wont know either, after all, only being 18, he obviously wasnt old enough to
be in the scene when it all happened.

> So therfore the crux of my argument is thus, is there any point in owning
> 2000 records, where you will only reasonably play 200 regularly?????
What's
> the point in collecting records 'just to have them'????? Basically for me,
i
> have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso that they will
> still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell them.

That all depends on if you are a diehard collector or jsut someone that
wants to keep the handful of tunes they love. I play out quite alot, and it
would certainly become rather boring for me, and people that come to hear
me, if I only had 200 odd tunes to choose from.

> Basically for me, i
> have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso that they will
> still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell them.

Ive brought tons of expensive tunes, as I said above, I dont care what they
are worth, Im not buying them for their value, Im buying them cause its my
life/my hobby/my love.

> Leaving everyone with a stupid amount of debts and 'negative equity'.

Speak for youself, Im not in any huge debt remotely. Ive got over 2000 tunes
here and I most certainly am not in debt or still paying for them. If you
are in debt cause of buying tunes, thats just your own fault for not
managing your money carefully.

Finally....
Read the original post  of this thread, it comes across that you are only
doing it to make money in the long run. You are in huge debt due to student
loans etc, but are trying to justify it all by passing the debt onto your
oldskool collection by seeing it as an investment.

If someone said to me, listen, everything you are buying now will be
worthless in 5 years, would I stop buying?

Not a fuckin chance mate!!!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

Yeah, I agree with all that. Personally, I have about 80% of
my wants list and I can't be arsed hunting as much nowadays.
Plus I'm tempted away by a lot of the excellent new dnb
that's coming out [many future classics, believe!].  

I don't think oldskool will lose it's value though. The
majority of people buying oldskool now are in their late
20s/early 30s and skint. And finest illusion still goes for
£100+. In 25 years time we'll all be in our 50s and minted.
I reckon you'll see Finest Illusion going for maybe two
grand. 

Right now lot of the 'liquidity' has gone out of the
oldskool market as loving collectors like myself hold on to
what we have, and don't sell or trade much.
 
 --- DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >
Can any of you guys see yourselves buying oldskool in 5
> years time? For
> me,
> > i think the answer is no.
> 
> Ive been buying them for 10 years so far, Im 30 this year
> and if it was a
> "passing fad" Im sure I would of lost interest by now!
> 
> > But who's to say in maybe 5 years time these records
> will have any where
> > near their current value???
> 
> Who cares? Yes, its nice to see tunes you have got go for
> crazy money on
> ebay.
> But, I dont collection tunes for their value, I collect
> them cause I love
> them, its my hobby, my main interest.
> IMO once you start to rely on it all to make money, the
> love is lost.
> I couldnt care a fuck if they are totally worthless in 5
> years time, cause
> to me they are priceless.
> Yes, Ive also spent a small fortune over the years buying
> tunes, but think
> of it this way... pretty much all other
> hobbies/interests/collections also
> cost alot of cash if you get really serious about it.
> 
> > I mean i ask my brother (now turned 18 what he
> > thinks 'oldskool' is? He just gives me a blank
> expression and says 'dunno'
> 
> Thats because oldskool is a generic term used to describe
> pretty much
> anything, not just music, and certainly not just old
> hardcore from 92/3.
> Oldskool rap, oldskool hiphop, oldskool clothes. oldskool
> dancing, oldskool
> this oldskool that....
> On the other hand, if you asked him what breakbeat
> hardcore was, he probably
> wont know either, after all, only being 18, he obviously
> wasnt old enough to
> be in the scene when it all happened.
> 
> > So therfore the crux of my argument is thus, is there
> any point in owning
> > 2000 records, where you will only reasonably play 200
> regularly?????
> What's
> > the point in collecting records 'just to have them'?????
> Basically for me,
> i
> > have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso
> that they will
> > still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell
> them.
> 
> That all depends on if you are a diehard collector or jsut
> someone that
> wants to keep the handful of tunes they love. I play out
> quite alot, and it
> would certainly become rather boring for me, and people
> that come to hear
> me, if I only had 200 odd tunes to choose from.
> 
> > Basically for me, i
> > have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso
> that they will
> > still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell
> them.
> 
> Ive brought tons of expensive tunes, as I said above, I
> dont care what they
> are worth, Im not buying them for their value, Im buying
> them cause its my
> life/my hobby/my love.
> 
> > Leaving everyone with a stupid amount of debts and
> 'negative equity'.
> 
> Speak for youself, Im not in any huge debt remotely. Ive
> got over 2000 tunes
> here and I most certainly am not in debt or still paying
> for them. If you
> are in debt cause of buying tunes, thats just your own
> fault for not
> managing your money carefully.
> 
> Finally....
> Read the original post  of this thread, it comes across
> that you are only
> doing it to make money in the long run. You are in huge
> debt due to student
> loans etc, but are trying to justify it all by passing the
> debt onto your
> oldskool collection by seeing it as an investment.
> 
> If someone said to me, listen, everything you are buying
> now will be
> worthless in 5 years, would I stop buying?
> 
> Not a fuckin chance mate!!!
> 
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
> 
> 
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Or you could just buy it in 5 years time:-D


> > Can any of you guys see yourselves buying oldskool in 5 years time? For
>me,
> i think the answer is no.
>
>Ive been buying them for 10 years so far, Im 30 this year and if it was a
"passing fad" Im sure I would of lost interest by now!
>
> But who's to say in maybe 5 years time these records will have any where
> near their current value???
>
>Who cares? Yes, its nice to see tunes you have got go for crazy money on
>ebay.
>But, I dont collection tunes for their value, I collect them cause I love
>them, its my hobby, my main interest.
>IMO once you start to rely on it all to make money, the love is lost.
>I couldnt care a fuck if they are totally worthless in 5 years time, cause
>to me they are priceless.
>Yes, Ive also spent a small fortune over the years buying tunes, but think
>of it this way... pretty much all other hobbies/interests/collections also
>cost alot of cash if you get really serious about it.
>
> I mean i ask my brother (now turned 18 what he
> thinks 'oldskool' is? He just gives me a blank expression and says 'dunno'
>
>Thats because oldskool is a generic term used to describe pretty much
>anything, not just music, and certainly not just old hardcore from 92/3.
>Oldskool rap, oldskool hiphop, oldskool clothes. oldskool dancing, oldskool
>this oldskool that....
>On the other hand, if you asked him what breakbeat hardcore was, he probably
>wont know either, after all, only being 18, he obviously wasnt old enough to
>be in the scene when it all happened.
>
> So therfore the crux of my argument is thus, is there any point in owning
> 2000 records, where you will only reasonably play 200 regularly?????
>What's
> the point in collecting records 'just to have them'????? Basically for me,
>i
> have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso that they will
> still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell them.
>
>That all depends on if you are a diehard collector or jsut someone that
>wants to keep the handful of tunes they love. I play out quite alot, and it
>would certainly become rather boring for me, and people that come to hear
>me, if I only had 200 odd tunes to choose from.
>
> Basically for me, i
> have put myself into huge amounts of debt on the proviso that they will
> still retain the value, when and if i decide to sell them.
>
>Ive brought tons of expensive tunes, as I said above, I dont care what they
>are worth, Im not buying them for their value, Im buying them cause its my
>life/my hobby/my love.
>
> Leaving everyone with a stupid amount of debts and 'negative equity'.
>
>Speak for youself, Im not in any huge debt remotely. Ive got over 2000 tunes
>here and I most certainly am not in debt or still paying for them. If you
>are in debt cause of buying tunes, thats just your own fault for not
>managing your money carefully.
>
>Finally....
>Read the original post  of this thread, it comes across that you are only
>doing it to make money in the long run. You are in huge debt due to student
>loans etc, but are trying to justify it all by passing the debt onto your
>oldskool collection by seeing it as an investment.
>
>If someone said to me, listen, everything you are buying now will be
>worthless in 5 years, would I stop buying?
>
>Not a fuckin chance mate!!!
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>ICQ:     101942966
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>Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool)  OT hi hi stuff

Right slightly off topic here, but its music related anyway!

i have the set up of normal hifi, all in one jobby, then decks connected to 
the mixer, mixer connected to back of hifi as aux output thing,

my tape deck on my hifi is fucked, i could get it repaired but i felt like 
gettin a separate, then gradually gettin more sepatates as i could afford 
it, thing is im not too sure how the tape decks would work with the current 
set up?

i only have one aux option on my hifi, so i thought i could put the tape 
deck in to the mixer then switch between the channels one being tape deck, 
the other deck, etc,

i then thought if i do that i cant record from both decks to tape, so is 
there ne way i colud add the tape deck to my existing system and still be 
able to record from both decks (vinyl!) to tape??

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btw that was meant to say HI FI STUFF, NOT hi hi stuff! doh!

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> i then thought if i do that i cant record from both decks to tape, so is
> there ne way i colud add the tape deck to my existing system and still be
> able to record from both decks (vinyl!) to tape??

If the mixer has two outputs, simply use one to the amp and one to the tape
deck.
Otherwise, another option you have is to buy some spliters (about 3 quid
each) which is basically one end into the mixer output, then it splits in
two so u now have two seperate outputs. (Buy one for each channel obviously)
Problem solved, amp and tape deck both coming from the same mixer output ;o)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

have to second destiny on this one,

i buy tunes because i like the tune- simple, i dont tend to think about the 
value of them much accept when im playin a rare as fuck tune n i think hmm 
better not fuck this one up (by playin it when pissed for example!)

only other time i tend to consider the value of the tune is when there may 
be a tune which i rekon is crap and its 2 quid, but i know its worth loads, 
in which case i get it with the intention to sell it or trade it,

bottom line is all about the tune its self in the end, if you like the tune 
you willingness to pay increases, end of, weather its rare as fuck or 
common,

as for long term monetary values, i feel soon ish the oldskool popularity 
will die down a little, and oldskool will move back to reasonable prices in 
london shops and on ebay, essentially the market will always have its die 
hard from day one followers who take the highs n lows of the market n ride 
them out, super long term- say 20 years who knows, that really depends on 
what the dance industry can produce in that time to make people turn away 
from oldskool,



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

yes i agree with you and Dest- when i first answered i got sidetracked about 
getting gigs cuz that was relevant to my situation, but the actual value of 
the tunes i am playing is entirely subjective

meaning i could care less what others think of em - i got into this cuz i 
fucking love the music, and i don't see that changing in 5 years or 10 for 
that matter

i love the tunes for what they are, and the sentimental value they have to 
me -to another DJ though, he might want to use em as frisbees

so yeah it doesn't matter how much a tune is going for on E-Bay or Classic 
Trax or whatever, music is music


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>Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 13:11:17 +0100
>
>have to second destiny on this one,
>
>i buy tunes because i like the tune- simple, i dont tend to think about the 
>value of them much accept when im playin a rare as fuck tune n i think hmm 
>better not fuck this one up (by playin it when pissed for example!)
>
>only other time i tend to consider the value of the tune is when there may 
>be a tune which i rekon is crap and its 2 quid, but i know its worth loads, 
>in which case i get it with the intention to sell it or trade it,
>
>bottom line is all about the tune its self in the end, if you like the tune 
>you willingness to pay increases, end of, weather its rare as fuck or 
>common,
>
>as for long term monetary values, i feel soon ish the oldskool popularity 
>will die down a little, and oldskool will move back to reasonable prices in 
>london shops and on ebay, essentially the market will always have its die 
>hard from day one followers who take the highs n lows of the market n ride 
>them out, super long term- say 20 years who knows, that really depends on 
>what the dance industry can produce in that time to make people turn away 
>from oldskool,
>
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Subject: (oldschool) Did everyone have good weekends ??


Riverdance ??

I went to Layo and Bushwacka! at The End and they were amazing. they played
my fave Leftfield tune - Not Forgotten and loads of other old school. I
definatly recommend it.

:)

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Riverdance was wikkid! Didn't make the afterparty cos I was knackered.

Full review coming on Moodys site very soon.

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Riverdance ??

I went to Layo and Bushwacka! at The End and they were amazing. they played
my fave Leftfield tune - Not Forgotten and loads of other old school. I
definatly recommend it.

:)

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

i think i'm pretty much agreed on this as well.

The post on the B2VOS forum makes it sound as though that person "begrudges"
paying for all those tunes as they are now in so much debt.  Thats surely
not what its all about ??

I have been buying for 12 years & i managed to buy when i was at Uni from
91-95.  I admit that i didn't pick up so much stuff then, because i was on a
budget,  but i watched my finances ok & still managed to pick lots of stuff
up.

However....  2nd hand tunes were considerably cheaper back then ,  i'm
talking £3 for Finest Illusion, Krispy Krouton  &  those tunes WOULD turn up
regularly - so i know its harder for people today if you want to get into
Old Skool.

I still buy tunes purely because i like them as well  & want to play them
out at parties or when i'm mixing in the bedroom.  Its great to be able to
play stuff to your mates that they've never heard before....it proves that
theres still longevity in the music.  But, the overall point is i love
listening to wicked stuff,  so i never think  "oh my gosh i'm spending too
much on this tune".  I just love finding undiscovered tunes  & its a great
hobby trying to track down obscure items.

I think that long term,  Old Skool will be worth MORE than today.  This is
just my opinion,  but the simple fact is that many tunes were limited
pressings & then you have to discount all the copies that have been trashed
& wrecked by people who didn't care or who played them to death....  which
leaves the probability in the future of finding mint copies of say  Tango
Project, Finest Illusion, Double Visions, Justice & Mercy etc....  almost
impossible.  Because the demand is so high for a quality copy... the price
gets pushed up even further & then the price for an average copy also gets
hiked up.

Mike



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have to second destiny on this one,

i buy tunes because i like the tune- simple, i dont tend to think about the
value of them much accept when im playin a rare as fuck tune n i think hmm
better not fuck this one up (by playin it when pissed for example!)

only other time i tend to consider the value of the tune is when there may
be a tune which i rekon is crap and its 2 quid, but i know its worth loads,
in which case i get it with the intention to sell it or trade it,

bottom line is all about the tune its self in the end, if you like the tune
you willingness to pay increases, end of, weather its rare as fuck or
common,

as for long term monetary values, i feel soon ish the oldskool popularity
will die down a little, and oldskool will move back to reasonable prices in
london shops and on ebay, essentially the market will always have its die
hard from day one followers who take the highs n lows of the market n ride
them out, super long term- say 20 years who knows, that really depends on
what the dance industry can produce in that time to make people turn away
from oldskool,


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Subject: (oldschool) They dont make em like they used to!

Just had a little mix up with some old jungle/dnb, it really made me
remember about when dnb was at its best, totally underground and
groundbreaking.

Afew that came to light...
Alex Reese - Basic principles - Metalheads
J Majik - Jim Kutta - Metalheads (Now THATS a bassline!!)
Just Jungle - Sky - Trouble On Vinyl
Goldie - Saint angel/Kemistry (VIP remix) - FFrr
DJ Ron - Cannan land/Dangerous - London Something
T Power - Mutant jazz (DJ Trace remix) - SOUR
Liftin Spirits - State of mind - Labello Blanco
Run Tings - Ruff revival - Sub Base

Expect a mix to download v soon! ;o)

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Subject: (oldschool) Dubplate 4 on ebay

Some original X Project pressing business...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=911734450

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> Maybe you should start practicing and start getting gigs.  :)

I'm affraid that in this country it's a lot harder than you might imagine.
It has fuck all to do with how good you are but who you know!!! That's half
the problem for me. NEVER ever get a chance really to play out. The nepotism
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What country are you in?

Try and do your own night, that's what I did.

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> Maybe you should start practicing and start getting gigs.  :)

I'm affraid that in this country it's a lot harder than you might imagine.
It has fuck all to do with how good you are but who you know!!! That's half
the problem for me. NEVER ever get a chance really to play out. The nepotism
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

> NEVER ever get a chance really to play out

Have u ever tried? You have to go to them, cause they certainly wont come to
you!
But, I do agree with your other comments, its not what you know but who you
know.
Promotors (well the big ones) on the whole dont care a fuck how good your
latest bedroom mixtape is, they want to see a big handful of flyers with
your name on, they want to see that you will draw in the crowds for them.
So, its pretty much a vicious circle....
No events = no flyers = No promotors want Mr Unknown.

ALWAYS keep a handful of flyers for each event you have played at, then you
can use them to help your cause.
Ive got a whole folder full of them from where Ive played, right back from
1992 ;o))


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

Have u ever tried?

Good one, like it!!! I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
to EVERYONE in Manchester. They had quite a few nights on and generally went
out of my way to meet and talk to the promoters. Spoke to them quite
regularly but they always blanked me when i came to playing at their nights.
I did everything within my power to get sets, but always kept on getting let
down by people and their monotonous lies. There's only so much you can try.


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> > NEVER ever get a chance really to play out
>
> Have u ever tried? You have to go to them, cause they certainly wont come
to
> you!
> But, I do agree with your other comments, its not what you know but who
you
> know.
> Promotors (well the big ones) on the whole dont care a fuck how good your
> latest bedroom mixtape is, they want to see a big handful of flyers with
> your name on, they want to see that you will draw in the crowds for them.
> So, its pretty much a vicious circle....
> No events = no flyers = No promotors want Mr Unknown.
>
> ALWAYS keep a handful of flyers for each event you have played at, then
you
> can use them to help your cause.
> Ive got a whole folder full of them from where Ive played, right back from
> 1992 ;o))
>
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes

Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for your
latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they want to
see that you will bring in some people etc.

A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a pile of
tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even get a
look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just grab a
handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had grabbed
afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went in was
listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL

I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all other
times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and explain
you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to prove
it ;o)

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The mans got a point - a bit cynical, but very valid.  The cost of Old Skool 
Tunes is fairly high and I get nervous myself thinking how much vinyl I've 
actually got, and whether I'm gonna lose out by holding on to it - but who's 
to say - The very simple fact of the matter is that the future value is going 
to be determined by a simple equation of supply and demand. IE - how much 
Vinyl is going for sale, and how much is required

I hope the majority of people will think ""Well who cares really - I bought 
these tunes cos i wanted them"" - Cos  personally speaking, Old Skool was 
something I got into for the love of the scene - For the respect I have for 
all the Hardcore Massive, the DJ's and the memories of a scene which in my 
eyes can never be recreated or beaten.  When I got into Hardcore back in 
1990-1991, Nothing else mattered in my life - everything went down the pan - 
cos i was in love - with Raving.  And if the truth be known, I was gutted for 
ages and ages when the scene split roundabout 94  And if raving played such a 
big part in any of your lives as it did mine, then I hope you ill look back 
with great affection and not hesitate to spend ten quid on a tune which back 
then made you rush like mutha fucka. 

Personally I love shopping and I'd rather spend a bit of cash buying 
something which has a big sentinmental value to me and something that will 
probaly still be worth dollar (it might go up down a bit -who cares) in years 
to come rather than a poxy armani T-shirt, or Pair of jeans that will be fked 
in 6mths

I'm not saying this to sell more tunes either - I dont think people who read 
this are suddenly gonna rush to my website and buy up a stack of tunes - lol. 
 I just think that lifes too short and if you want something badly - then get 
it! 

But basically i feel that it's time to realise that this whole dream can't
last forever.

Whats your dream mate? - I used to dream that the Old skool would return to 
the state of '92 - but it aint happening  - The tunes are for your own 
pleasure an maybe those who you might play out to.  

i don't see why i should continue to financially cripplle myself every month 
to pay for tunes that aren't gonna maintain their value, (No you shouldnt 
finacially cripple yourself - thats a bit much - but you never know if they 
are gonna retain their value or not - like one of the last posts - Seal Blame 
could be worth 3 grand in 10 years you just dont know) nor are they gonna 
appeal to anyone apart from myself in the years to come. (Do you buy them for 
other people?)

Any - Big up the DJ Aztek for the most thought provoking email since i joined 
this list -   

And heres another  thought provoking statement - Would any of you make love 
to your mother Porn star style in order to save your dads life?  Or even the 
other way round for the ladies? - lol

peace out - enjoy the tunes - fuck the bank manager !

Gazza

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Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......

hello
i decided to drop some lines too,

i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in the world
than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
others, compete in positive way!!

its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
established names.

just my $0.03

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 Ivars
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t.:7032443

Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:

>> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes

DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for your
DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they want to
DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.

DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a pile of
DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even get a
DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just grab a
DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had grabbed
DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went in was
DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL

DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all other
DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and explain
DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to prove
DD> it ;o)

DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
DD> ICQ:     101942966
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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......

> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
> by their mixtapes.

Was this meant to go to the list?
Anyway, what you said was exactly the point ive been trying to make!

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From: Ivars Mednis <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
To: DJ Destiny <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:19 PM
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> hello
> i decided to drop some lines too,
>
> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
> by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
> yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
> some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in
the world
> than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
> others, compete in positive way!!
>
> its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
> get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
> established names.
>
> just my $0.03
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Ivars
> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
> t.:7032443
>
> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:
>
> >> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
>
> DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for
your
> DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they
want to
> DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.
>
> DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
> DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
> DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a
pile of
> DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
> DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even
get a
> DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
> DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just
grab a
> DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
> DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
grabbed
> DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went
in was
> DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
>
> DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
other
> DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
explain
> DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to
prove
> DD> it ;o)
>
> DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> DD> ICQ:     101942966
> DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> DD> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew a
promoter pretty well. Unlike the rest of us, who actually sent the tapes in
that never got a listen!!! You obviously don't know what it's like to be
dismissed 'cos you're a nobody, without the 'flyers' behind you!!!! Having
to listen to dire mix sets for djs that basically have no idea what they are
doing. It's incredibly infuriating having to put up with it and this is one
of the reasons why i think it's time to sell my tunes.

I got into the scene for the love of the music and to be a dj, the latter
has no been acheived and i don't think it ever will be!!!


----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk>
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> > I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
>
> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for your
> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they want to
> see that you will bring in some people etc.
>
> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a pile of
> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even get
a
> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just grab
a
> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
grabbed
> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went in
was
> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
>
> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
other
> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
explain
> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to
prove
> it ;o)
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

I think the oldskool scene will evetually fizzle out - not die completely as
there will always be nutter like us to keep it alive.

The reason is that in time the people that were there back in the day and
who in the main inject the momentum into the scene will drop out as they get
older. There are loads of people from younger generations who have got into
the music - always suprises me how many - but I think it takes the back in
the day peeps who lived through something special to have the love for it to
run night, websites, record labels etc etc. So gradually the scene will fall
back.

Also its popularity with new generations owes a lot to common ground between
current drum and bass, hardcore and oldskool - the links will become more
stretched as time goes on making more difficult for new people to get into
the oldskool scene.

As music hasn't progressed that much from 1995 to 2002, oldskool hardcore is
very accessable to youngsters into D&B or hardcore. Oldskool hardcore has
got the breakbeat, basslines similar to D&B and riffs similar to HHC. Its a
bit of an extention to those the current day scenes in that respect. Lot of
oldskool nights are rooms in D&B or hardcore nights. Its pretty easy to get
into oldskool if you are into one of those scenes.

You only have to see how old acid or late 80's house, or 90/91 belgium
techno is completely overlooked to understand that new generations won't get
into tunes just cause they are good. Needs that common thread with current
genres - similar features/sound to make it accessable to them.

So I reckon the success of oldskool is very much linked to the success of
D&B and hardcore scenes - cause they are the places new recuits for the
scene come from. So if those scenes die or mutate to something too far
distant from oldskool for people to cross over then the oldskool scene will
be isolated to those "that were there".

And this has got to evetually happen - not this year or even next year but 5
/ 10 yrs down the line it will have happened.

Translate that into prices - they won't move for good couple of years yet
and there are plenty new people getting into the scene. But eventually this
will dry up, prices will fall.

My final prediction is that in about 100 years time the last remaining
copies of oldskool tunes will be auctioned as Sotherby's for £'000s of
pounds piece. We'll meet up then to see if I'm right - lol (.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
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-----Original Message-----
From: Old Skool Forever [mailto:djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2002 13:31
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


i think i'm pretty much agreed on this as well.

The post on the B2VOS forum makes it sound as though that person "begrudges"
paying for all those tunes as they are now in so much debt.  Thats surely
not what its all about ??

I have been buying for 12 years & i managed to buy when i was at Uni from
91-95.  I admit that i didn't pick up so much stuff then, because i was on a
budget,  but i watched my finances ok & still managed to pick lots of stuff
up.

However....  2nd hand tunes were considerably cheaper back then ,  i'm
talking £3 for Finest Illusion, Krispy Krouton  &  those tunes WOULD turn up
regularly - so i know its harder for people today if you want to get into
Old Skool.

I still buy tunes purely because i like them as well  & want to play them
out at parties or when i'm mixing in the bedroom.  Its great to be able to
play stuff to your mates that they've never heard before....it proves that
theres still longevity in the music.  But, the overall point is i love
listening to wicked stuff,  so i never think  "oh my gosh i'm spending too
much on this tune".  I just love finding undiscovered tunes  & its a great
hobby trying to track down obscure items.

I think that long term,  Old Skool will be worth MORE than today.  This is
just my opinion,  but the simple fact is that many tunes were limited
pressings & then you have to discount all the copies that have been trashed
& wrecked by people who didn't care or who played them to death....  which
leaves the probability in the future of finding mint copies of say  Tango
Project, Finest Illusion, Double Visions, Justice & Mercy etc....  almost
impossible.  Because the demand is so high for a quality copy... the price
gets pushed up even further & then the price for an average copy also gets
hiked up.

Mike



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 October 2002 13:11
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......


have to second destiny on this one,

i buy tunes because i like the tune- simple, i dont tend to think about the
value of them much accept when im playin a rare as fuck tune n i think hmm
better not fuck this one up (by playin it when pissed for example!)

only other time i tend to consider the value of the tune is when there may
be a tune which i rekon is crap and its 2 quid, but i know its worth loads,
in which case i get it with the intention to sell it or trade it,

bottom line is all about the tune its self in the end, if you like the tune
you willingness to pay increases, end of, weather its rare as fuck or
common,

as for long term monetary values, i feel soon ish the oldskool popularity
will die down a little, and oldskool will move back to reasonable prices in
london shops and on ebay, essentially the market will always have its die
hard from day one followers who take the highs n lows of the market n ride
them out, super long term- say 20 years who knows, that really depends on
what the dance industry can produce in that time to make people turn away
from oldskool,


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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......

i'm affraid that is utter 'bullshit', sorry mate don't mean to be a bastard
sorry.

'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would get
released on a big label'

sorry mate, but there are hundreds of artists that this has happened to. If
it's gonna be financially viable for the record company then they will press
up anything, irrespective of who it's made by!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivars Mednis" <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
To: "DJ Destiny" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:19 PM
Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......


> hello
> i decided to drop some lines too,
>
> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
> by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
> yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
> some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in
the world
> than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
> others, compete in positive way!!
>
> its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
> get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
> established names.
>
> just my $0.03
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Ivars
> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
> t.:7032443
>
> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:
>
> >> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
>
> DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for
your
> DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they
want to
> DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.
>
> DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
> DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
> DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a
pile of
> DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
> DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even
get a
> DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
> DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just
grab a
> DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
> DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
grabbed
> DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went
in was
> DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
>
> DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
other
> DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
explain
> DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to
prove
> DD> it ;o)
>
> DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> DD> ICQ:     101942966
> DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> DD> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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Subject: RE: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......

totally agree - you gotta blag your way into getting your first sets.

there is also another way - produce a couple of good tunes that get nuff
exposure and all the promoters will let you play even if your mixing is
shite (you'll pull a crowd cause your name is know)

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ivars Mednis [mailto:ivars.mednis@lkb.lv]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:20
To: DJ Destiny
Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......


hello
i decided to drop some lines too,

i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in
the world
than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
others, compete in positive way!!

its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
established names.

just my $0.03

--
Best regards,
 Ivars
ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
t.:7032443

Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:

>> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes

DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for
your
DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they want
to
DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.

DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a pile
of
DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even
get a
DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just
grab a
DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
grabbed
DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went in
was
DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL

DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
other
DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
explain
DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to
prove
DD> it ;o)

DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
DD> ICQ:     101942966
DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
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Aye Riverdance was bossak! Wicked weather, friendly non-smoking lower deck which made the set a bit more harrowing than usual;-)


> Riverdance was wikkid! Didn't make the afterparty cos I was knackered.
>
>Full review coming on Moodys site very soon.
>
>Peter Smith
>
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>
>Riverdance ??
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>I went to Layo and Bushwacka! at The End and they were amazing. they played
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
a
> promoter pretty well.

I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
spots at others too.
Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
fair share of getting nowhere too.
Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
spots.
Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
that way...
Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will let
you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
people in for free.
My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and they
simply let me provide the music.
Everyone comes out happy....

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......


Heh well some promoters do book up and comings based on mixtapes. Alot of the time you have to be seen at their parties regularly and badger the promoter but there are still some organisations that will book on the strength of a tape!


> > i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
> by their mixtapes.
>
>Was this meant to go to the list?
>Anyway, what you said was exactly the point ive been trying to make!
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>ICQ:     101942966
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>Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ivars Mednis <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
>To: DJ Destiny <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:19 PM
>Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> hello
> i decided to drop some lines too,
>
> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
> by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
> yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
> some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in
>the world
> than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
> others, compete in positive way!!
>
> its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
> get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
> established names.
>
> just my $0.03
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Ivars
> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
> t.:7032443
>
> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:
>
> > I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
>
> DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for
>your
> DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they
>want to
> DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.
>
> DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
> DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
> DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a
>pile of
> DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
> DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even
>get a
> DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
> DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just
>grab a
> DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
> DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
>grabbed
> DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went
>in was
> DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
>
> DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
>other
> DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
>explain
> DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to
>prove
> DD> it ;o)
>
> DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> DD> ICQ:     101942966
> DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> DD> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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Subject: Re[4]: (oldschool) something to think about......

Hello Richard,

no problem about utter "bullsh*t", it is always good when true
discussions go out :)

RW> 'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would get
RW> released on a big label'

i am pretty sure that stuff u talkin about is more an exception,
because if you are good and popular, you'll get more gigs then if you
are good but not popular.

i just don't like this 'all promoters suck' attitude, yes i do both
djing and promoting gigs and yes, recently when we pulled over 2
live/dj acts from UK, they were not newcomers, but DMX Krew and Cylob
who i personlly highly respect.

it would just be too expensive to pay the flight, hotel, fee for a guy
who could not draw at least 600 people in the room. hope u understand
what i am talkin about.


-- 
Best regards,
 Ivars
ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
t.:7032443

Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:27:29 PM, you wrote:

RW> i'm affraid that is utter 'bullshit', sorry mate don't mean to be a bastard
RW> sorry.

RW> 'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would get
RW> released on a big label'

RW> sorry mate, but there are hundreds of artists that this has happened to. If
RW> it's gonna be financially viable for the record company then they will press
RW> up anything, irrespective of who it's made by!!!!

RW> ----- Original Message -----
RW> From: "Ivars Mednis" <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
RW> To: "DJ Destiny" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
RW> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:19 PM
RW> Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......


>> hello
>> i decided to drop some lines too,
>>
>> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
>> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
>> by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
>> yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
>> some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in
RW> the world
>> than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
>> others, compete in positive way!!
>>
>> its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
>> get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
>> established names.
>>
>> just my $0.03
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Ivars
>> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
>> t.:7032443
>>
>> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> >> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
>>
>> DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for
RW> your
>> DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they
RW> want to
>> DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.
>>
>> DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
>> DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor to
>> DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a
RW> pile of
>> DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
>> DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even
RW> get a
>> DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
>> DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just
RW> grab a
>> DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
>> DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
RW> grabbed
>> DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went
RW> in was
>> DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
>>
>> DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
RW> other
>> DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
RW> explain
>> DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers to
RW> prove
>> DD> it ;o)
>>
>> DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>> DD> ICQ:     101942966
>> DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>> DD> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum

>>
>>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what a
small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
your in.

b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you know
the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get out
there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......


> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
a
> promoter pretty well.

I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
spots at others too.
Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
fair share of getting nowhere too.
Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
spots.
Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
that way...
Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will let
you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
people in for free.
My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and they
simply let me provide the music.
Everyone comes out happy....

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
ICQ:     101942966
Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
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Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they should
come down, support the night and get to know me.

Isnt that right moody? :o)

Peter Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what a
small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
your in.

b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you know
the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get out
there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......


> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
a
> promoter pretty well.

I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
spots at others too.
Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
fair share of getting nowhere too.
Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
spots.
Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
that way...
Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will let
you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
people in for free.
My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and they
simply let me provide the music.
Everyone comes out happy....

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
ICQ:     101942966
Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
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Subject: Re: Re[4]: (oldschool) something to think about......

Hey man, i'm not talking about the states!!! Of course you should book
someone that's gonna draw the crows!!! you're paying a huge amount of money
to get them there after all. it's just the shitty 'oldskool' night that they
have in this countrt done by no name dj's that are so up their own arse they
won't give anyone else a go.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ivars Mednis" <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:36 PM
Subject: Re[4]: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Hello Richard,
>
> no problem about utter "bullsh*t", it is always good when true
> discussions go out :)
>
> RW> 'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
get
> RW> released on a big label'
>
> i am pretty sure that stuff u talkin about is more an exception,
> because if you are good and popular, you'll get more gigs then if you
> are good but not popular.
>
> i just don't like this 'all promoters suck' attitude, yes i do both
> djing and promoting gigs and yes, recently when we pulled over 2
> live/dj acts from UK, they were not newcomers, but DMX Krew and Cylob
> who i personlly highly respect.
>
> it would just be too expensive to pay the flight, hotel, fee for a guy
> who could not draw at least 600 people in the room. hope u understand
> what i am talkin about.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
>  Ivars
> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
> t.:7032443
>
> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:27:29 PM, you wrote:
>
> RW> i'm affraid that is utter 'bullshit', sorry mate don't mean to be a
bastard
> RW> sorry.
>
> RW> 'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
get
> RW> released on a big label'
>
> RW> sorry mate, but there are hundreds of artists that this has happened
to. If
> RW> it's gonna be financially viable for the record company then they will
press
> RW> up anything, irrespective of who it's made by!!!!
>
> RW> ----- Original Message -----
> RW> From: "Ivars Mednis" <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
> RW> To: "DJ Destiny" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> RW> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:19 PM
> RW> Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> >> hello
> >> i decided to drop some lines too,
> >>
> >> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
> >> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
> >> by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
> >> yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
> >> some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs
in
> RW> the world
> >> than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
> >> others, compete in positive way!!
> >>
> >> its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
> >> get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
> >> established names.
> >>
> >> just my $0.03
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>  Ivars
> >> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
> >> t.:7032443
> >>
> >> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> >> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
> >>
> >> DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck
for
> RW> your
> >> DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they
> RW> want to
> >> DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.
> >>
> >> DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
> >> DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor
to
> >> DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a
> RW> pile of
> >> DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
> >> DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt
even
> RW> get a
> >> DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
> >> DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes,
just
> RW> grab a
> >> DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
> >> DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
> RW> grabbed
> >> DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that
went
> RW> in was
> >> DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
> >>
> >> DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape,
all
> RW> other
> >> DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
> RW> explain
> >> DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers
to
> RW> prove
> >> DD> it ;o)
> >>
> >> DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> >> DD> ICQ:     101942966
> >> DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> >> DD> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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	"Ivars Mednis" <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
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Subject: RE: Re[4]: (oldschool) something to think about......

can't blame the promoters - they spending ?2/?3k on even a small event - big
fucking risk innit - they gotta get names on the flyer that guarantee a
crowd.

do think some promoters are missing a trick though when they could do half
the line up big names attract just as many people and save half the cost of
DJ line up getting unknowns to do the other half and probably end up with
better music on the night and better crowd reactions cause the good unknown
DJ is normally in love with the music/scene and will do a better set (IMO)

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: Ivars Mednis [mailto:ivars.mednis@lkb.lv]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:37
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re[4]: (oldschool) something to think about......


Hello Richard,

no problem about utter "bullsh*t", it is always good when true
discussions go out :)

RW> 'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would get
RW> released on a big label'

i am pretty sure that stuff u talkin about is more an exception,
because if you are good and popular, you'll get more gigs then if you
are good but not popular.

i just don't like this 'all promoters suck' attitude, yes i do both
djing and promoting gigs and yes, recently when we pulled over 2
live/dj acts from UK, they were not newcomers, but DMX Krew and Cylob
who i personlly highly respect.

it would just be too expensive to pay the flight, hotel, fee for a guy
who could not draw at least 600 people in the room. hope u understand
what i am talkin about.


--
Best regards,
 Ivars
ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
t.:7032443

Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:27:29 PM, you wrote:

RW> i'm affraid that is utter 'bullshit', sorry mate don't mean to be a
bastard
RW> sorry.

RW> 'its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would get
RW> released on a big label'

RW> sorry mate, but there are hundreds of artists that this has happened to.
If
RW> it's gonna be financially viable for the record company then they will
press
RW> up anything, irrespective of who it's made by!!!!

RW> ----- Original Message -----
RW> From: "Ivars Mednis" <ivars.mednis@lkb.lv>
RW> To: "DJ Destiny" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
RW> Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:19 PM
RW> Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) something to think about......


>> hello
>> i decided to drop some lines too,
>>
>> i don't know what you people are thinking, but there is no way a big
>> club or big party promoter will take newcomers in lineup, judging just
>> by their mixtapes.  You've got to get small gigs at first, promote
>> yourself and make yer name known.  and if you are successfull,
>> some promotors might notice you.  belfieve me, there are lots more djs in
RW> the world
>> than available slots on playlists :), so you've gotta compete with
>> others, compete in positive way!!
>>
>> its just like there is 0,001% possibility that unknown artist would
>> get released on a big label.  both promotors and club owners want
>> established names.
>>
>> just my $0.03
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Ivars
>> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
>> t.:7032443
>>
>> Monday, October 7, 2002, 4:12:22 PM, you wrote:
>>
>> >> I spent the best part of 3 years sending out mixtapes
>>
>> DD> Thats exactly what I was on about, promotors couldnt care a fuck for
RW> your
>> DD> latest mixtape with out one single error. Like I said before, they
RW> want to
>> DD> see that you will bring in some people etc.
>>
>> DD> A good example of this was when I was at Milwaukees.....
>> DD> In the managers office were half a dozen piles of tapes, from floor
to
>> DD> ceiling! Every week we would go into the club and there would be a
RW> pile of
>> DD> tapes on the floor that were put thru the letterbox.
>> DD> If they were very lucky they got a listen, but 99.9% of em didnt even
RW> get a
>> DD> look in. They were just stuck on the top of the pile.
>> DD> Des, the manager once said to me "If you want some blank tapes, just
RW> grab a
>> DD> handful everyweek, they will just sit there otherwise"
>> DD> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
RW> grabbed
>> DD> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went
RW> in was
>> DD> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL
>>
>> DD> I think I can honestly remember only ever giving out ONE mixtape, all
RW> other
>> DD> times have been who you know, or, have a chat with the promotor and
RW> explain
>> DD> you have played here and there and have a lovely big pile of flyers
to
RW> prove
>> DD> it ;o)
>>
>> DD> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>> DD> ICQ:     101942966
>> DD> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>> DD> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum

>>
>>
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Subject: (oldschool) something to think about......

I've been playing out properly since 2000.  Its not
oldskool but I've used
same tactics as lot of people.  I was a regular at the
first club that gave me a
chance.  Used to ask the bloke who was running the
DJ's how they got new
ones.  He said give me a tape.  Did that and after a
6months pestering got
a try out on the 1st 2hours of the nite.  Played
warmups for about a year
until some funny business went off and I got
replaced...I've learnt djing is a
right dodgy "who you know" kind of business.  Whatever
you do don't show up 
a resident DJ by mixing better than him in a warmup
slot.

At that point thought about packing it in.  

Then went along to the local record shop and asked him
if he fancied selling
mix CD's of speed garage.  Started off a series of mix
CD's which kept my
name about.  When the bloke in the shop decided to
start his own nite he
asked me to be a resident as people buying CD's were
asking where they
could hear me.  Nite now pulls about 5-600 people a
week in a nice big venue.

Since then started a web site and promoting myself a
bit more round yorkshire.
Now I have my name of on flyers as a resident its a
lot easier.  The nite now gets loads of tapes / cd's
from eager DJ's but bloke running it says he's 
sticking with the residents who've been there since
the start....playing in a shit venue to a handfull
of people.

Its taken years of being messed about, doing freebies
etc etc but its finally
gone somewhere.  I'm enjoying it while it lasts.

And finally I'm glad I over spent on vinyl 91-4 when
I was a student as I've got loads of tunes that 
cost a bomb today.

Richard

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and 'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out £8 to listen to mainly terrible dj's with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what
a
> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
> your in.
>
> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you
know
> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
> people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get
out
> there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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Have you tried to do your own night?

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Sent: 07 October 2002 14:53
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and =
'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 =
drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite =
well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said =
that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him =
he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out =A38 to listen to mainly terrible =
dj's with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They =
even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I =
for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show =
these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book =
someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - =
you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open =
doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too =
-
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised =
what
a
> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your =
in
> your in.
>
> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause =
you
know
> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of =
good
> people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to =
get
out
> there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards =
that
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has =
got me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had =
my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and =
dj
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a =
following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that =
will
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, =
let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already =
and
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

As it goes do you get loads of people trying to find you and asking for a
set?

When we did reENERGIZE I was bombarded by people coming up to me and saying
"I'm a DJ book me" and couple gave me tapes there and then (like I wanted a
tape in me pocket all night. It was actually bloody annoying.

I would suggest a more subtle approach (unless your a georgous blonde) -
like saying hello first, telling me what a wicked night it is etc - maybe
asking 2nd/3rd time you met me once I knew your friendly face asking for a
set. Or to be really switched on give the promoter something back - "like I
run a website could put the flyer on the site ..... by the way I am a DJ"
or "I run a record shop I'll put the flyers out for ya......btw I'm a DJ"
..... fuck even "I'll flyer my arse off if you give me a set sometime". When
your doing something for someone much more disposed to doing something back
for ya.

"I'm a DJ book me" is just like take, take, take. It not fun having people
want things off you all the time for nothing in return.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 October 2002 14:40
To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they should
come down, support the night and get to know me.

Isnt that right moody? :o)

Peter Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what a
small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
your in.

b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you know
the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get out
there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......


> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
a
> promoter pretty well.

I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
spots at others too.
Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
fair share of getting nowhere too.
Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
spots.
Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
that way...
Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will let
you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
people in for free.
My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and they
simply let me provide the music.
Everyone comes out happy....

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
ICQ:     101942966
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As I said, my night is still small, but I have had a fair few requests. Some
people ask where to send a demo, I say come down in person, and they don't
want to know.

But a lot of people give me demos in person which is good. But I will rarely
book them unless they are a good mate, or im getting a favour back.

Sad really, but tis the way of the world.

Peter Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com] 
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:58
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

As it goes do you get loads of people trying to find you and asking for a
set?

When we did reENERGIZE I was bombarded by people coming up to me and saying
"I'm a DJ book me" and couple gave me tapes there and then (like I wanted a
tape in me pocket all night. It was actually bloody annoying.

I would suggest a more subtle approach (unless your a georgous blonde) -
like saying hello first, telling me what a wicked night it is etc - maybe
asking 2nd/3rd time you met me once I knew your friendly face asking for a
set. Or to be really switched on give the promoter something back - "like I
run a website could put the flyer on the site ..... by the way I am a DJ"
or "I run a record shop I'll put the flyers out for ya......btw I'm a DJ"
..... fuck even "I'll flyer my arse off if you give me a set sometime". When
your doing something for someone much more disposed to doing something back
for ya.

"I'm a DJ book me" is just like take, take, take. It not fun having people
want things off you all the time for nothing in return.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 October 2002 14:40
To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they should
come down, support the night and get to know me.

Isnt that right moody? :o)

Peter Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what a
small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
your in.

b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you know
the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get out
there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.nrgized.co.uk
www.oldskoolmadness.com
www.interface-radio.co.uk
Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays


-----Original Message-----
From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......


> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
a
> promoter pretty well.

I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
spots at others too.
Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
fair share of getting nowhere too.
Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
spots.
Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
that way...
Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will let
you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
people in for free.
My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and they
simply let me provide the music.
Everyone comes out happy....

Martyn (DJ Destiny)
ICQ:     101942966
Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
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Agreeed, in all cases it is better to show your face at the events first and most promoters if sound will take mixtapes off people and listen to them and give feedback. I basically treat up and comings how I would have been wished to be treated when I started giving people mix tapes. I listen to every mix tape I get and give feedback (if they phone me up). Admittedly 75% of mixtapes I recieve aren't up to much either with their mixing or their tune selection (there is only so many times I can listen to the same lot of Scott Brown tunes etc played in a diff order). The ones that stand out are the tapes with best tune selection (esp if they have some of their own material on there) above mixing talent. As long as you don't sound like a brick in a spin dryer and have blinding tune selection you have a good chance.
Old skool is obviously harder to get into as the number of old skool events is going down again.
If all else fails put yer own night on and play, worked for me:-)


> As I said, my night is still small, but I have had a fair few requests. Some
>people ask where to send a demo, I say come down in person, and they don't
>want to know.
>
>But a lot of people give me demos in person which is good. But I will rarely
>book them unless they are a good mate, or im getting a favour back.
>
>Sad really, but tis the way of the world.
>
>Peter Smith
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com] 
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:58
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>As it goes do you get loads of people trying to find you and asking for a
>set?
>
>When we did reENERGIZE I was bombarded by people coming up to me and saying
"I'm a DJ book me" and couple gave me tapes there and then (like I wanted a
>tape in me pocket all night. It was actually bloody annoying.
>
>I would suggest a more subtle approach (unless your a georgous blonde) -
>like saying hello first, telling me what a wicked night it is etc - maybe
>asking 2nd/3rd time you met me once I knew your friendly face asking for a
>set. Or to be really switched on give the promoter something back - "like I
>run a website could put the flyer on the site ..... by the way I am a DJ"
>or "I run a record shop I'll put the flyers out for ya......btw I'm a DJ"
>..... fuck even "I'll flyer my arse off if you give me a set sometime". When
>your doing something for someone much more disposed to doing something back
>for ya.
>
"I'm a DJ book me" is just like take, take, take. It not fun having people
>want things off you all the time for nothing in return.
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adil-Smith, Peter [mailto:psmith@try.co.uk]
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:40
>To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
>Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
>if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they should
>come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
>Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
>Peter Smith
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
>can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
>for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
>having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what a
>small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
>your in.
>
>b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you know
>the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
>people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get out
>there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
>a
> promoter pretty well.
>
>I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
>played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
>spots at others too.
>Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
>fair share of getting nowhere too.
>Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
>spots.
>Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
>that way...
>Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will let
>you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
>people in for free.
>My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and they
>simply let me provide the music.
>Everyone comes out happy....
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>ICQ:     101942966
>Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
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Shut it anthem boy ;o)

Peter Smith


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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


Agreeed, in all cases it is better to show your face at the events first and
most promoters if sound will take mixtapes off people and listen to them and
give feedback. I basically treat up and comings how I would have been wished
to be treated when I started giving people mix tapes. I listen to every mix
tape I get and give feedback (if they phone me up). Admittedly 75% of
mixtapes I recieve aren't up to much either with their mixing or their tune
selection (there is only so many times I can listen to the same lot of Scott
Brown tunes etc played in a diff order). The ones that stand out are the
tapes with best tune selection (esp if they have some of their own material
on there) above mixing talent. As long as you don't sound like a brick in a
spin dryer and have blinding tune selection you have a good chance.
Old skool is obviously harder to get into as the number of old skool events
is going down again.
If all else fails put yer own night on and play, worked for me:-)


> As I said, my night is still small, but I have had a fair few requests.
Some
>people ask where to send a demo, I say come down in person, and they don't
>want to know.
>
>But a lot of people give me demos in person which is good. But I will
rarely
>book them unless they are a good mate, or im getting a favour back.
>
>Sad really, but tis the way of the world.
>
>Peter Smith
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com] 
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:58
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>As it goes do you get loads of people trying to find you and asking for a
>set?
>
>When we did reENERGIZE I was bombarded by people coming up to me and saying
"I'm a DJ book me" and couple gave me tapes there and then (like I wanted a
>tape in me pocket all night. It was actually bloody annoying.
>
>I would suggest a more subtle approach (unless your a georgous blonde) -
>like saying hello first, telling me what a wicked night it is etc - maybe
>asking 2nd/3rd time you met me once I knew your friendly face asking for a
>set. Or to be really switched on give the promoter something back - "like I
>run a website could put the flyer on the site ..... by the way I am a DJ"
>or "I run a record shop I'll put the flyers out for ya......btw I'm a DJ"
>..... fuck even "I'll flyer my arse off if you give me a set sometime".
When
>your doing something for someone much more disposed to doing something back
>for ya.
>
"I'm a DJ book me" is just like take, take, take. It not fun having people
>want things off you all the time for nothing in return.
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Adil-Smith, Peter [mailto:psmith@try.co.uk]
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:40
>To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
>Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
>if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they should
>come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
>Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
>Peter Smith
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
>can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
>for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
>having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what
a
>small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
>your in.
>
>b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you know
>the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
>people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get out
>there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
>Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that knew
>a
> promoter pretty well.
>
>I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
>played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
>spots at others too.
>Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
>fair share of getting nowhere too.
>Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
>spots.
>Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
>that way...
>Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will
let
>you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
>people in for free.
>My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and
they
>simply let me provide the music.
>Everyone comes out happy....
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
>ICQ:     101942966
>Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
>Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
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>>Richard Wyatt" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
>>They even had one 'girl' playing that had no idea 
>>what she was doing and just eventually ended up 
>>moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes.

perhaps you need to shag the promoter :-)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......


maybe your just not as good as you think you are!!


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Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and 'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite
well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out =A38 to listen to mainly terrible dj's
with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book
someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open
doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised
what
a
> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
> your in.
>
> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you
know
> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
> people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get
out
> there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got
me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a
following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: RE: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

LOL,=20they=20were=20loving=20it!!


>=20Shut=20it=20anthem=20boy=20;o)
>
>Peter=20Smith
>
>
>-----Original=20Message-----
>From:=20djhb@talk21.com=20[mailto:djhb@talk21.com]=20
>Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2016:08
>To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject:=20Re:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>
>Agreeed,=20in=20all=20cases=20it=20is=20better=20to=20show=20your=20face=20at=20the=20events=20first=20and
>most=20promoters=20if=20sound=20will=20take=20mixtapes=20off=20people=20and=20listen=20to=20them=20and
>give=20feedback.=20I=20basically=20treat=20up=20and=20comings=20how=20I=20would=20have=20been=20wished
>to=20be=20treated=20when=20I=20started=20giving=20people=20mix=20tapes.=20I=20listen=20to=20every=20mix
>tape=20I=20get=20and=20give=20feedback=20(if=20they=20phone=20me=20up).=20Admittedly=2075%=20of
>mixtapes=20I=20recieve=20aren't=20up=20to=20much=20either=20with=20their=20mixing=20or=20their=20tune
>selection=20(there=20is=20only=20so=20many=20times=20I=20can=20listen=20to=20the=20same=20lot=20of=20Scott
>Brown=20tunes=20etc=20played=20in=20a=20diff=20order).=20The=20ones=20that=20stand=20out=20are=20the
>tapes=20with=20best=20tune=20selection=20(esp=20if=20they=20have=20some=20of=20their=20own=20material
>on=20there)=20above=20mixing=20talent.=20As=20long=20as=20you=20don't=20sound=20like=20a=20brick=20in=20a
>spin=20dryer=20and=20have=20blinding=20tune=20selection=20you=20have=20a=20good=20chance.
>Old=20skool=20is=20obviously=20harder=20to=20get=20into=20as=20the=20number=20of=20old=20skool=20events
>is=20going=20down=20again.
>If=20all=20else=20fails=20put=20yer=20own=20night=20on=20and=20play,=20worked=20for=20me:-)
>
>
>=20As=20I=20said,=20my=20night=20is=20still=20small,=20but=20I=20have=20had=20a=20fair=20few=20requests.
>Some
>people=20ask=20where=20to=20send=20a=20demo,=20I=20say=20come=20down=20in=20person,=20and=20they=20don't
>want=20to=20know.
>
>But=20a=20lot=20of=20people=20give=20me=20demos=20in=20person=20which=20is=20good.=20But=20I=20will
>rarely
>book=20them=20unless=20they=20are=20a=20good=20mate,=20or=20im=20getting=20a=20favour=20back.
>
>Sad=20really,=20but=20tis=20the=20way=20of=20the=20world.
>
>Peter=20Smith
>
>
>-----Original=20Message-----
>From:=20DJ=20Moody=20[mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]=20
>Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2014:58
>To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>As=20it=20goes=20do=20you=20get=20loads=20of=20people=20trying=20to=20find=20you=20and=20asking=20for=20a
>set=3F
>
>When=20we=20did=20reENERGIZE=20I=20was=20bombarded=20by=20people=20coming=20up=20to=20me=20and=20saying
"I'm=20a=20DJ=20book=20me"=20and=20couple=20gave=20me=20tapes=20there=20and=20then=20(like=20I=20wanted=20a
>tape=20in=20me=20pocket=20all=20night.=20It=20was=20actually=20bloody=20annoying.
>
>I=20would=20suggest=20a=20more=20subtle=20approach=20(unless=20your=20a=20georgous=20blonde)=20-
>like=20saying=20hello=20first,=20telling=20me=20what=20a=20wicked=20night=20it=20is=20etc=20-=20maybe
>asking=202nd/3rd=20time=20you=20met=20me=20once=20I=20knew=20your=20friendly=20face=20asking=20for=20a
>set.=20Or=20to=20be=20really=20switched=20on=20give=20the=20promoter=20something=20back=20-=20"like=20I
>run=20a=20website=20could=20put=20the=20flyer=20on=20the=20site=20.....=20by=20the=20way=20I=20am=20a=20DJ"
>or=20"I=20run=20a=20record=20shop=20I'll=20put=20the=20flyers=20out=20for=20ya......btw=20I'm=20a=20DJ"
>.....=20fuck=20even=20"I'll=20flyer=20my=20arse=20off=20if=20you=20give=20me=20a=20set=20sometime".
>When
>your=20doing=20something=20for=20someone=20much=20more=20disposed=20to=20doing=20something=20back
>for=20ya.
>
"I'm=20a=20DJ=20book=20me"=20is=20just=20like=20take,=20take,=20take.=20It=20not=20fun=20having=20people
>want=20things=20off=20you=20all=20the=20time=20for=20nothing=20in=20return.
>
>Steve
>aka=20DJ=20Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool=20Madness=20-=20Live=20Oldskool=208pm=20till=20late=20Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original=20Message-----
>From:=20Adil-Smith,=20Peter=20[mailto:psmith@try.co.uk]
>Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2014:40
>To:=20'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
>Subject:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>
>Even=20at=20my=20small=20night,=20Ive=20booked=20up=20n=20comings.=20But=20id=20never=20book=20someone
>if=20all=20they=20did=20was=20send=20me=20a=20tape.=20If=20someone=20wants=20a=20booking,=20they=20should
>come=20down,=20support=20the=20night=20and=20get=20to=20know=20me.
>
>Isnt=20that=20right=20moody=3F=20:o)
>
>Peter=20Smith
>
>
>-----Original=20Message-----
>From:=20DJ=20Moody=20[mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
>Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2014:41
>To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>that's=20how=20it=20works=20innit=20-=20not=20just=20for=20DJ'ing=20for=20loads=20of=20things=20-=20you
>can't=20just=20expect=20some=20talent=20to=20get=20you=20places=20and=20everyone=20to=20open=20doors
>for=20you=20rolling=20out=20the=20red=20carpet=20-=20you=20gotta=20do=20the=20dirty=20work=20too=20-
>having=20said=20that=20once=20you=20get=20in=20with=20a=20few=20people=20you'd=20be=20surprised=20what
>a
>small=20world=20it=20is=20-=20then=20it=20all=20works=20in=20your=20favour,=20cause=20once=20your=20in
>your=20in.
>
>b4=20anyone=20goes=20moans=20-=20you=20won't=20make=20it=20if=20your=20shite,=20just=20cause=20you=20know
>the=20right=20people=20-=20what=20the=20above=20means=20is=20that=20there=20are=20plenty=20of=20good
>people=20who=20won't=20make=20it=20cause=20they=20ain't=20switched=20on=20-=20you=20have=20to=20get=20out
>there,=20meet=20people,=20get=20known=20-=20applies=20to=20pretty=20much=20everything.
>
>Steve
>aka=20DJ=20Moody
>www.nrgized.co.uk
>www.oldskoolmadness.com
>www.interface-radio.co.uk
>Oldskool=20Madness=20-=20Live=20Oldskool=208pm=20till=20late=20Tuesdays
>
>
>-----Original=20Message-----
>From:=20DJ=20Destiny=20[mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
>Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2014:32
>To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject:=20Re:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>
>=20well=20bull=20for=20you=20mate,=20you're=20abviously=20one=20the=20lucky=20bastards=20that=20knew
>a
>=20promoter=20pretty=20well.
>
>I=20guess=20I=20am,=20I=20was=20well=20in=20with=20the=20promoters=20for=20alot=20of=20places=20Ive
>played,=20but=20also,=20on=20the=20strength=20playing=20that=20those=20events,=20it=20has=20got=20me
>spots=20at=20others=20too.
>Dont=20get=20me=20wrong,=20I=20do=20know=20how=20hard=20it=20is=20to=20get=20sets=20cause=20ive=20had=20my
>fair=20share=20of=20getting=20nowhere=20too.
>Unfortunatly=20the=20oldskool=20scene=20is=20a=20small=20one=20regarding=20events=20and=20dj
>spots.
>Maybe=20you=20could=20put=20on=20a=20small=20event=20with=20some=20mates=3F=20Build=20up=20a=20following
>that=20way...
>Small=20events=20dont=20have=20to=20be=20expensive,=20try=20to=20find=20a=20club/pub=20that=20will
>let
>you=20have=20the=20room=20free=20if=20they=20have=20the=20door=20takings,=20or=20even=20better,=20let
>people=20in=20for=20free.
>My=20event=20costs=20me=20not=20a=20single=20penny,=20the=20room=20has=20a=20system=20already=20and
>they
>simply=20let=20me=20provide=20the=20music.
>Everyone=20comes=20out=20happy....
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>Martyn=20(DJ=20Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

Well=20there=20is=20always=20that=20;-)


>=20maybe=20your=20just=20not=20as=20good=20as=20you=20think=20you=20are!!
>
>
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20"Richard=20Wyatt"=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20<dj_aztek@btint=20=20=20=20=20=20=20To:=20=20=20=20=20<oldschool@hyperreal.org>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20ernet.com>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20cc:=20=20=20=20=20(bcc:=20Karen=20Dunlop/Glasgow/PKF-UK)=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Subject:=20=20=20=20=20Re:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=2007/10/2002=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20about......=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=2014:52=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20Please=20respond=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20to=20oldschool=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20
>
>
>
>
>Please=20guys=20read=20what=20i=20have=20said=20or=20don't=20bother=20replying.=20It's=20so
>frustrating=20having=20to=20reitterate=20everything.
>
>Here=20we=20go=20again.....=20I=20don't=20just=20send=20mixtapes=20to=20promoters=20and=20'hope'
>they=20will=20give=20me=20a=20set.=20Jesus=20i=20aint=20that=20stupid!!!
>
>Let's=20take=20Decadance=20for=20example.=20It=20was=20a=20fortnightly=20night=20run=20in
>Manchester.=20They=20had=20'no=20name'=20dj's=20playing=20everything=20from=201990-2000=20drum
>and=20bass.=20Went=20to=20it=20for=20about=203=20months=20knew=20one=20of=20the=20promoters=20quite
>well
>always=20chatted=20to=20him.=20Gave=20him=20probably=204=20mix=20cds=20and=20he=20laways=20said=20that
>he'd=20e-mail=20me=20to=20sort=20out=20a=20set.=20He=20never=20did.=20Whenever=20i=20spoke=20to=20him=20he
>always=20fed=20me=20piles=20of=20bullshit.
>
>Every=20fortnight=20i=20had=20to=20shell=20out=20=A38=20to=20listen=20to=20mainly=20terrible=20dj's
>with
>the=20odd=20exception.=20Clanging,=20dropping=20beats,=20knocking=20the=20needle.=20They=20even
>had=20one=20'girl'=20playing=20that=20had=20no=20idea=20what=20she=20was=20doing=20and=20just
>eventually=20ended=20up=20moving=20the=20fade=20accross=20without=20mixing=20the=20tunes.=20I=20for
>one=20supported=20the=20night=20for=20aaaages,=20in=20the=20hope=20that=20i=20could=20show=20these
>promoters=20that=20i=20could=20mix=20and=20play=20a=20wicked=20set.
>
>Never=20got=20the=20chance.=20Disillusioned.....=20out=20survey=20says=20YES!!!!
>
>-----=20Original=20Message=20-----
>From:=20"Adil-Smith,=20Peter"=20<psmith@try.co.uk>
>To:=20<oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent:=20Monday,=20October=2007,=202002=202:40=20PM
>Subject:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>
>=20Even=20at=20my=20small=20night,=20Ive=20booked=20up=20n=20comings.=20But=20id=20never=20book
>someone
>=20if=20all=20they=20did=20was=20send=20me=20a=20tape.=20If=20someone=20wants=20a=20booking,=20they
>should
>=20come=20down,=20support=20the=20night=20and=20get=20to=20know=20me.
>
>=20Isnt=20that=20right=20moody=3F=20:o)
>
>=20Peter=20Smith
>
>
>=20-----Original=20Message-----
>=20From:=20DJ=20Moody=20[mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
>=20Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2014:41
>=20To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>=20Subject:=20RE:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>=20that's=20how=20it=20works=20innit=20-=20not=20just=20for=20DJ'ing=20for=20loads=20of=20things=20-=20you
>=20can't=20just=20expect=20some=20talent=20to=20get=20you=20places=20and=20everyone=20to=20open
>doors
>=20for=20you=20rolling=20out=20the=20red=20carpet=20-=20you=20gotta=20do=20the=20dirty=20work=20too=20-
>=20having=20said=20that=20once=20you=20get=20in=20with=20a=20few=20people=20you'd=20be=20surprised
>what
>a
>=20small=20world=20it=20is=20-=20then=20it=20all=20works=20in=20your=20favour,=20cause=20once=20your=20in
>=20your=20in.
>
>=20b4=20anyone=20goes=20moans=20-=20you=20won't=20make=20it=20if=20your=20shite,=20just=20cause=20you
>know
>=20the=20right=20people=20-=20what=20the=20above=20means=20is=20that=20there=20are=20plenty=20of=20good
>=20people=20who=20won't=20make=20it=20cause=20they=20ain't=20switched=20on=20-=20you=20have=20to=20get
>out
>=20there,=20meet=20people,=20get=20known=20-=20applies=20to=20pretty=20much=20everything.
>
>=20Steve
>=20aka=20DJ=20Moody
>=20www.nrgized.co.uk
>=20www.oldskoolmadness.com
>=20www.interface-radio.co.uk
>=20Oldskool=20Madness=20-=20Live=20Oldskool=208pm=20till=20late=20Tuesdays
>
>
>=20-----Original=20Message-----
>=20From:=20DJ=20Destiny=20[mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
>=20Sent:=2007=20October=202002=2014:32
>=20To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>=20Subject:=20Re:=20(oldschool)=20something=20to=20think=20about......
>
>
>=20>=20well=20bull=20for=20you=20mate,=20you're=20abviously=20one=20the=20lucky=20bastards=20that
>knew
>=20a
>=20>=20promoter=20pretty=20well.
>
>=20I=20guess=20I=20am,=20I=20was=20well=20in=20with=20the=20promoters=20for=20alot=20of=20places=20Ive
>=20played,=20but=20also,=20on=20the=20strength=20playing=20that=20those=20events,=20it=20has=20got
>me
>=20spots=20at=20others=20too.
>=20Dont=20get=20me=20wrong,=20I=20do=20know=20how=20hard=20it=20is=20to=20get=20sets=20cause=20ive=20had=20my
>=20fair=20share=20of=20getting=20nowhere=20too.
>=20Unfortunatly=20the=20oldskool=20scene=20is=20a=20small=20one=20regarding=20events=20and=20dj
>=20spots.
>=20Maybe=20you=20could=20put=20on=20a=20small=20event=20with=20some=20mates=3F=20Build=20up=20a
>following
>=20that=20way...
>=20Small=20events=20dont=20have=20to=20be=20expensive,=20try=20to=20find=20a=20club/pub=20that=20will
>let
>=20you=20have=20the=20room=20free=20if=20they=20have=20the=20door=20takings,=20or=20even=20better,=20let
>=20people=20in=20for=20free.
>=20My=20event=20costs=20me=20not=20a=20single=20penny,=20the=20room=20has=20a=20system=20already=20and
>they
>=20simply=20let=20me=20provide=20the=20music.
>=20Everyone=20comes=20out=20happy....
>
>=20Martyn=20(DJ=20Destiny)
>=20ICQ:=20=20=20=20=20101942966
>=20Site:=20=20=20=20=20www.fullrecycle.com
>=20Forum:=20www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
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RW> Hey man, i'm not talking about the states!!! Of course you should book
RW> someone that's gonna draw the crows!!! you're paying a huge amount of money
RW> to get them there after all. it's just the shitty 'oldskool' night that they
RW> have in this countrt done by no name dj's that are so up their own arse they
RW> won't give anyone else a go.

hehe, i am not from US but rather from Baltic States :)
anyways got your point and kinda agree :), but would you give up your
dj spot in a club to somebody else just because some mixtape was sent
in.  don't take it personal, perhaps it was more of a retorical
question.

also, i have established my name here in LV as techno/electro dj, just now i
feel i want to play sumtin else too and will most probably go oldskool
under different name. in this case i am kind of "newbie" again, with the
exception that i know people in the scene.  :)



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>>My final prediction is that in about 100 years time the last remaining
>>copies of oldskool tunes will be auctioned as Sotherby's for £'000s of
>>pounds piece. We'll meet up then to see if I'm right - lol (.


heh, it will be like Ebay all over again ,  except this time the person in
the best health will win the auction & not with the best connection , lol




DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk


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I think the oldskool scene will evetually fizzle out - not die completely as
there will always be nutter like us to keep it alive.

The reason is that in time the people that were there back in the day and
who in the main inject the momentum into the scene will drop out as they get
older. There are loads of people from younger generations who have got into
the music - always suprises me how many - but I think it takes the back in
the day peeps who lived through something special to have the love for it to
run night, websites, record labels etc etc. So gradually the scene will fall
back.

Also its popularity with new generations owes a lot to common ground between
current drum and bass, hardcore and oldskool - the links will become more
stretched as time goes on making more difficult for new people to get into
the oldskool scene.

As music hasn't progressed that much from 1995 to 2002, oldskool hardcore is
very accessable to youngsters into D&B or hardcore. Oldskool hardcore has
got the breakbeat, basslines similar to D&B and riffs similar to HHC. Its a
bit of an extention to those the current day scenes in that respect. Lot of
oldskool nights are rooms in D&B or hardcore nights. Its pretty easy to get
into oldskool if you are into one of those scenes.

You only have to see how old acid or late 80's house, or 90/91 belgium
techno is completely overlooked to understand that new generations won't get
into tunes just cause they are good. Needs that common thread with current
genres - similar features/sound to make it accessable to them.

So I reckon the success of oldskool is very much linked to the success of
D&B and hardcore scenes - cause they are the places new recuits for the
scene come from. So if those scenes die or mutate to something too far
distant from oldskool for people to cross over then the oldskool scene will
be isolated to those "that were there".

And this has got to evetually happen - not this year or even next year but 5
/ 10 yrs down the line it will have happened.

Translate that into prices - they won't move for good couple of years yet
and there are plenty new people getting into the scene. But eventually this
will dry up, prices will fall.

My final prediction is that in about 100 years time the last remaining
copies of oldskool tunes will be auctioned as Sotherby's for £'000s of
pounds piece. We'll meet up then to see if I'm right - lol (.

Steve
aka DJ Moody
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*chuckles*

now can we get back to 15 mails a day pleeese


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Well there is always that ;-)


> maybe your just not as good as you think you are!!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

i'm never i one place long enough really to sort something out. Also there
was the scally influence in Manchester that would make something like an
oldskool event very hard to put on (but that's another story tho!!!)


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Have you tried to do your own night?

Peter Smith


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Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and 'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out £8 to listen to mainly terrible dj's with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
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> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised what
a
> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
> your in.
>
> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you
know
> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
> people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get
out
> there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

unfortunately Aztek,  you have to be prepared for the knock-backs.... even
when its happened time & time again.

I've had the same thing happen many a time & now i just don't care anymore.
If I did, then I would have given up as well.

I once gave a demo to this dude in Bridgwater who i knew through a mate.
This guy was apparently part of React Records & i used to drive down there
regularly & have a chat and try and get a spot. He seemed a cool guy &
promised this & that....   Did i get a booking ?  You must be joking.... &
my tape went in this huge black bin liner along with approximately 300
others  (no bullshit).  I think Destiny mentioned about the tape thing
earlier & it is definitely true.  That quote about "do you want some blank
cassettes ??"  had me rolling around with laughter.... its so TRUE !!!!!

>>They even had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and
just eventually ended up moving the fade accross >>without mixing the tunes

i've seen it all before.  I've been next to  DJ Seduction when hes f**ked up
a mix at Fantazia Showcase,  I've been next to Ramos when his mixing was
awful,  i've seen LTJ Bukem starting and stopping records because he
couldn't mix a beat,  i've heard Jumping Jack Frost tapes where he keeps
spinning back the tune on the other deck which becomes increasingly annoying
when he does it all the time.....  the list goes on.....

The point is... they've all got bookings somehow or the other, probably as
Destiny & Moody mentioned...through someone they know.

You will have to keep plugging away mate...

Aztek Old Skool report :  Must try harder


Mike



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Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and 'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out £8 to listen to mainly terrible dj's with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

i don't really think tallent or lack of it has anything to do with it
atall!!! Just look at SS, he has made a name for himself by writing
unquestionably wicked tracks, but his dj skills are appalling!!!!


----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......



maybe your just not as good as you think you are!!



                    "Richard Wyatt"
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                    ernet.com>            cc:     (bcc: Karen
Dunlop/Glasgow/PKF-UK)
                                          Subject:     Re: (oldschool)
something to think
                    07/10/2002             about......
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                    to oldschool






Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and 'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite
well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out £8 to listen to mainly terrible dj's
with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book
someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open
doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too -
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised
what
a
> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your in
> your in.
>
> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause you
know
> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of good
> people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to get
out
> there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards that
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has got
me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and dj
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a
following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that will
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already and
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
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Could say the same for Shy Fx, Grooverider, Ratpack and an endless =
list.

Peter Smith


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Wyatt [mailto:dj_aztek@btinternet.com]=20
Sent: 07 October 2002 16:34
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

i don't really think tallent or lack of it has anything to do with it
atall!!! Just look at SS, he has made a name for himself by writing
unquestionably wicked tracks, but his dj skills are appalling!!!!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Dunlop/Glasgow/GB/PKF" <karen.dunlop@uk.pkf.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......



maybe your just not as good as you think you are!!



                    "Richard Wyatt"
                    <dj_aztek@btint       To:     =
<oldschool@hyperreal.org>
                    ernet.com>            cc:     (bcc: Karen
Dunlop/Glasgow/PKF-UK)
                                          Subject:     Re: (oldschool)
something to think
                    07/10/2002             about......
                    14:52
                    Please respond
                    to oldschool






Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and =
'hope'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 =
drum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite
well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said =
that
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him =
he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out =A38 to listen to mainly terrible =
dj's
with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They =
even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I =
for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show =
these
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book
someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things - =
you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open
doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too =
-
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised
what
a
> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your =
in
> your in.
>
> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause =
you
know
> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of =
good
> people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on - you have to =
get
out
> there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much everything.
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards =
that
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive
> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has =
got
me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had =
my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and =
dj
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a
following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that =
will
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better, =
let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already =
and
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> ICQ:     101942966
> Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
>
>
>
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well until you make a name for yourself by writing unquestionably wicke=
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                                                                       =
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i don't really think tallent or lack of it has anything to do with it
atall!!! Just look at SS, he has made a name for himself by writing
unquestionably wicked tracks, but his dj skills are appalling!!!!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Dunlop/Glasgow/GB/PKF" <karen.dunlop@uk.pkf.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......



maybe your just not as good as you think you are!!



                    "Richard Wyatt"
                    <dj_aztek@btint       To:     <oldschool@hyperreal.=
org>
                    ernet.com>            cc:     (bcc: Karen
Dunlop/Glasgow/PKF-UK)
                                          Subject:     Re: (oldschool)
something to think
                    07/10/2002             about......
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                    Please respond
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Please guys read what i have said or don't bother replying. It's so
frustrating having to reitterate everything.

Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to promoters and 'hope=
'
they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!

Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly night run in
Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything from 1990-2000 d=
rum
and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the promoters quite=

well
always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he laways said t=
hat
he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever i spoke to him=
 he
always fed me piles of bullshit.

Every fortnight i had to shell out =A38 to listen to mainly terrible dj=
's
with
the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the needle. They =
even
had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was doing and just
eventually ended up moving the fade accross without mixing the tunes. I=
 for
one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i could show thes=
e
promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.

Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says YES!!!!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


> Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id never book
someone
> if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a booking, they
should
> come down, support the night and get to know me.
>
> Isnt that right moody? :o)
>
> Peter Smith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
> that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for loads of things -=
 you
> can't just expect some talent to get you places and everyone to open
doors
> for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the dirty work too =
-
> having said that once you get in with a few people you'd be surprised=

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> small world it is - then it all works in your favour, cause once your=
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> your in.
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> b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite, just cause yo=
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> the right people - what the above means is that there are plenty of g=
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> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ Destiny [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
>
>
> > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky bastards tha=
t
knew
> a
> > promoter pretty well.
>
> I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot of places Ive=

> played, but also, on the strength playing that those events, it has g=
ot
me
> spots at others too.
> Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets cause ive had=
 my
> fair share of getting nowhere too.
> Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding events and d=
j
> spots.
> Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates? Build up a
following
> that way...
> Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a club/pub that w=
ill
let
> you have the room free if they have the door takings, or even better,=
 let
> people in for free.
> My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a system already a=
nd
they
> simply let me provide the music.
> Everyone comes out happy....
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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do you not like a discussion then m@xx??? after all that is what this list
is for isn't it???

or shall i get back to the way it has been recently:

Did you hear that garage / breaks remix of the magic roundabout??? wicked
use of the narators voice. Can't wait untill i get it on white label!!!

sorry guys, will remove my tongue from my cheek now!!!!



----- Original Message -----
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> *chuckles*
>
> now can we get back to 15 mails a day pleeese


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>>>Did you hear that garage / breaks remix of the magic roundabout???


ROTFLMFAO !!!!!


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>>>>They even had one 'girl' playing that had no idea 
>>>>what she was doing and
>>>>just eventually ended up moving the fade accross 
>>>>without mixing the tunes

djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk>
>>i've seen it all before.  I've been next to DJ 
>>Seduction I've been next to  DJ Seduction when hes 
>>f**ked up a mix at Fantazia Showcase,  I've been 
>>next to Ramos when his mixing was awful

that wasn't bad mixing...they were being "artistic".



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT hi hi stuff


If your mixer has 2 outputs you can put the second out to the tape deck(rec 
in) and put the tape(play out) to a line in on the mixer.
that way you can tape and listen at the same time, or the other way would be 
from mixer to tape to amp. this way you have to be recording to hear it.
hope that helps

joemac




>From: "Robert Rogers" <anybodygotanybeers@hotmail.com>
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>Subject: (oldschool)  OT hi hi stuff
>Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 11:25:01 +0100
>
>Right slightly off topic here, but its music related anyway!
>
>i have the set up of normal hifi, all in one jobby, then decks connected to 
>the mixer, mixer connected to back of hifi as aux output thing,
>
>my tape deck on my hifi is fucked, i could get it repaired but i felt like 
>gettin a separate, then gradually gettin more sepatates as i could afford 
>it, thing is im not too sure how the tape decks would work with the current 
>set up?
>
>i only have one aux option on my hifi, so i thought i could put the tape 
>deck in to the mixer then switch between the channels one being tape deck, 
>the other deck, etc,
>
>i then thought if i do that i cant record from both decks to tape, so is 
>there ne way i colud add the tape deck to my existing system and still be 
>able to record from both decks (vinyl!) to tape??
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

isn't there a collective noun for it??? 'eclectic' love that term, just
gives you license to sound as shite as you want!!!!!


----- Original Message -----
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> >>>>They even had one 'girl' playing that had no idea
> >>>>what she was doing and
> >>>>just eventually ended up moving the fade accross
> >>>>without mixing the tunes
>
> djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk>
> >>i've seen it all before.  I've been next to DJ
> >>Seduction I've been next to  DJ Seduction when hes
> >>f**ked up a mix at Fantazia Showcase,  I've been
> >>next to Ramos when his mixing was awful
>
> that wasn't bad mixing...they were being "artistic".
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

I played out at a backroom at my old college for a few
months when I was LEARNING to mix, just had 10-15 mates turn
up. One night the guy who was in charge of the venue got so
sick of my clanging that he 'nudged' me off the decks and
started mixing properly himself. The result? Everyone booed
him and left! DJing isn't sound engineering, it's an art -
so seamless mixing is only ever half the story. 

D
(I don't clang any more...honest?!)

>                                    
> >                    <dj_aztek@btint       To:    
> <oldschool@hyperreal.org>                  
> >                    ernet.com>            cc:     (bcc:
> Karen Dunlop/Glasgow/PKF-UK)         
> >                                          Subject:    
> Re: (oldschool) something to think    
> >                    07/10/2002             about......   
>                                    
> >                    14:52                                
>                                    
> >                    Please respond                       
>                                    
> >                    to oldschool                         
>                                    
> >                                                         
>                                    
> >                                                         
>                                    
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Please guys read what i have said or don't bother
> replying. It's so
> >frustrating having to reitterate everything.
> >
> >Here we go again..... I don't just send mixtapes to
> promoters and 'hope'
> >they will give me a set. Jesus i aint that stupid!!!
> >
> >Let's take Decadance for example. It was a fortnightly
> night run in
> >Manchester. They had 'no name' dj's playing everything
> from 1990-2000 drum
> >and bass. Went to it for about 3 months knew one of the
> promoters quite
> >well
> >always chatted to him. Gave him probably 4 mix cds and he
> laways said that
> >he'd e-mail me to sort out a set. He never did. Whenever
> i spoke to him he
> >always fed me piles of bullshit.
> >
> >Every fortnight i had to shell out £8 to listen to mainly
> terrible dj's
> >with
> >the odd exception. Clanging, dropping beats, knocking the
> needle. They even
> >had one 'girl' playing that had no idea what she was
> doing and just
> >eventually ended up moving the fade accross without
> mixing the tunes. I for
> >one supported the night for aaaages, in the hope that i
> could show these
> >promoters that i could mix and play a wicked set.
> >
> >Never got the chance. Disillusioned..... out survey says
> YES!!!!
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Adil-Smith, Peter" <psmith@try.co.uk>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 2:40 PM
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
> >
> >
> > Even at my small night, Ive booked up n comings. But id
> never book
> >someone
> > if all they did was send me a tape. If someone wants a
> booking, they
> >should
> > come down, support the night and get to know me.
> >
> > Isnt that right moody? :o)
> >
> > Peter Smith
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DJ Moody [mailto:s.lillicrap@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 07 October 2002 14:41
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......
> >
> > that's how it works innit - not just for DJ'ing for
> loads of things - you
> > can't just expect some talent to get you places and
> everyone to open
> >doors
> > for you rolling out the red carpet - you gotta do the
> dirty work too -
> > having said that once you get in with a few people you'd
> be surprised
> >what
> >a
> > small world it is - then it all works in your favour,
> cause once your in
> > your in.
> >
> > b4 anyone goes moans - you won't make it if your shite,
> just cause you
> >know
> > the right people - what the above means is that there
> are plenty of good
> > people who won't make it cause they ain't switched on -
> you have to get
> >out
> > there, meet people, get known - applies to pretty much
> everything.
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.nrgized.co.uk
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > www.interface-radio.co.uk
> > Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DJ Destiny
> [mailto:djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk]
> > Sent: 07 October 2002 14:32
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......
> >
> >
> > > well bull for you mate, you're abviously one the lucky
> bastards that
> >knew
> > a
> > > promoter pretty well.
> >
> > I guess I am, I was well in with the promoters for alot
> of places Ive
> > played, but also, on the strength playing that those
> events, it has got
> >me
> > spots at others too.
> > Dont get me wrong, I do know how hard it is to get sets
> cause ive had my
> > fair share of getting nowhere too.
> > Unfortunatly the oldskool scene is a small one regarding
> events and dj
> > spots.
> > Maybe you could put on a small event with some mates?
> Build up a
> >following
> > that way...
> > Small events dont have to be expensive, try to find a
> club/pub that will
> >let
> > you have the room free if they have the door takings, or
> even better, let
> > people in for free.
> > My event costs me not a single penny, the room has a
> system already and
> >they
> > simply let me provide the music.
> > Everyone comes out happy....
> >
> > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > ICQ:     101942966
> > Site:     www.fullrecycle.com
> > Forum: www.fullrecycle.com/forum
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Review please...I may even come along to the next one!

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got a few tunes on e-bay at the mo,have a look  ;o) need some cash for =
my kids birthday,so some of my trades are for sale.
http://cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=3Ddj=
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yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find the
correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed the
"white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in the
post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on it.
Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

>>>that wasn't bad mixing...they were being "artistic".

errr.....no,  i can assure you they weren't.....  unable to match beats
sounds awful in case you didn't know  ;-)

maybe the spinback thing is "artistic", but as with anything like
that....when its overdone, it sounds very annoying !


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>>>>They even had one 'girl' playing that had no idea
>>>>what she was doing and
>>>>just eventually ended up moving the fade accross
>>>>without mixing the tunes

djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk>
>>i've seen it all before.  I've been next to DJ
>>Seduction I've been next to  DJ Seduction when hes
>>f**ked up a mix at Fantazia Showcase,  I've been
>>next to Ramos when his mixing was awful

that wasn't bad mixing...they were being "artistic".



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

This is definitely a one off bootleg.
Tronik House, after all, is Kevin Saunderson, and he would never have
been caught dead making something that fast/hardcore rave-y
Unless he had a serious change of heart, that's gotta be a bootleg.

---chris

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Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this
clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the
"white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the
post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
Mike




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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

I think you're missing the point Chris,  i already have 4 versions of this
tune that are *VERY* similar,  exactly the same BPM & stab noises ....but
NOT with the Amen break.  Its just this one version i'm looking
for...........


DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
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This is definitely a one off bootleg.
Tronik House, after all, is Kevin Saunderson, and he would never have
been caught dead making something that fast/hardcore rave-y
Unless he had a serious change of heart, that's gotta be a bootleg.

---chris

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this
clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the
"white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the
post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
Mike




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10/7/2002 4:37:14 AM, "Recoil >" <the_recoil@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>2,000?!  I have 4,000 records, and get booked for almost every style I have 
>>records in!
>
>christ that's a lot of tunes! - how long you been buying wax for Ian?

I've been buying records since about Fall of 1995.

>>But basically i feel that it's time to realise that this whole dream >can't 
>>last forever. i don't see why i should continue to financially >cripplle
>> >myself every month to pay for tunes that aren't gonna maintain their 
>>value,
>> >nor are they gonna appeal to anyone apart from myself in the years to 
>>come.
>>
>>Maybe you should start practicing and start getting gigs.  :)
>
>i hear what you are saying Richard - i go through that kind of dissonance 
>from time to time, but i seriously think i will be mixing records for the 
>love of it for many many years - of course age could take a toll on me, but 
>i think i will - music is a great release
>
>but what Ian says is tue - a few months ago i was getting seriously 
>depressed about DJing, because nobody really knew who i was, sketchy people 
>were taking advantage of my newness, i wasn't getting booked for jungle 
>parties, and i was getting used and abused - most gigs i would get were 
>private parties and art showings where people generally wanted to hear 
>house/hiphop/r&b ... or if i did play a jungle party it was a bunch of 
>nuskool kids who have no interest in classic jungle ...
>
>seriously the rudeness and disrespectful attitude of some of the people i 
>would play for was really disillusioning - it left me very bitter and i felt 
>like i'd be better off staying a bedroom DJ, and, like you, i felt like my 
>big quest for rare vinyl had maybe been a waste of time, money and effort
>
>but then i started handing out CDs to all kinds of people, geting booked for 
>proper gigs, and playing for wicked crowds. and now i get people giving me 
>all kinds of nice feedback - somebody came up to me at a jam and said they 
>only came cuz they heard my CD and wanted to hear me spin  - to me that is 
>SO rewarding to hear that
>
>basically, if a few people come out of their way to see me spin, or put my 
>CD on when they want to chill to some jungle, then that is mission 
>accomplished, i guess  =)
>
>I've heard your darkside mixes and they are absolutely wicked, so don't 
>e-bay those tunes just yet =)   get out there and do some brilliant mix CDs 
>of all those crazy tunes you have, do some pirate radio like you were saying 
>the other day, and DJ some proper underground parties and it will make it 
>worthwhile

Agreed 100%.

It's a lot harder for you guys over there tho, I must say.  On my side of the pond, I'm still one of the few, if not the ONLY, DJ that gets booked nationally for Old Skool on a 
regular basis.



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Happy hardcore, around 1994/5 I'd say.

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yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on
this clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the "white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it. Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
Mike



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what copies /mixes do you have ??.
zak.
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> yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
> correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this clip
> :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm
>
>
> I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed the
> "white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.
>
> So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in the
> post today.
>
> Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
> Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
> Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....
>
> F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!
>
> I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
> releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!
>
> I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
> officially by Tronik House at all.
>
> Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm
>
> and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).
>
> Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
> label,  i'd like to catch up with him....
>
> cheers
> Mike
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance 

 this is a 1992 tune.  Its probably on +8 in the clip as i've heard it much
slower on another tape/clip someone sent me.

All the tapes its on are from 92
cheers
Mike


-----Original Message-----
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Happy hardcore, around 1994/5 I'd say.

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Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance


yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on
this clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the "white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it. Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
Mike



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) something to think about......

It's all about the New Old Skool, guys.

The only way to keep the flame burning is to be progressing Old Skool into a new area that hasn't been seen yet.

Grasping the concept of 145-160bpm Breakbeat Hardcore with basslines and pianos and stabs isn't that outlandish, and newbies and oldhats alike like the rave sound no 
matter what.

I get just as many rewinds and cheers for the new old skool stuff as I do for any of the old old skool.

Keep makin those wikked tunes!





10/7/2002 8:11:17 AM, "Robert Rogers" <anybodygotanybeers@hotmail.com> wrote:

>have to second destiny on this one,
>
>i buy tunes because i like the tune- simple, i dont tend to think about the 
>value of them much accept when im playin a rare as fuck tune n i think hmm 
>better not fuck this one up (by playin it when pissed for example!)
>
>only other time i tend to consider the value of the tune is when there may 
>be a tune which i rekon is crap and its 2 quid, but i know its worth loads, 
>in which case i get it with the intention to sell it or trade it,
>
>bottom line is all about the tune its self in the end, if you like the tune 
>you willingness to pay increases, end of, weather its rare as fuck or 
>common,
>
>as for long term monetary values, i feel soon ish the oldskool popularity 
>will die down a little, and oldskool will move back to reasonable prices in 
>london shops and on ebay, essentially the market will always have its die 
>hard from day one followers who take the highs n lows of the market n ride 
>them out, super long term- say 20 years who knows, that really depends on 
>what the dance industry can produce in that time to make people turn away 
>from oldskool,
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance 

heres what i have :-

tronik house - Straight Outta Hell (Network Released Copy - NWKT 061)
tronik house - Straight Outta Hell (Network White label promo - NWKT 61)
tronik house - Straight Outta Hell REMIX (Network Released Copy - NWKTR 061)
tronik house - Straight Outta Hell (KMS 045)

the only thing i can think of is whether there is another release/mix  on
KMS ???

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what copies /mixes do you have ??.
zak.
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Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance


> yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
> correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this clip
> :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm
>
>
> I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed the
> "white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.
>
> So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in the
> post today.
>
> Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
> Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
> Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....
>
> F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!
>
> I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
> releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!
>
> I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
> officially by Tronik House at all.
>
> Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-
>
> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm
>
> and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).
>
> Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
> label,  i'd like to catch up with him....
>
> cheers
> Mike
>
>


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Subject: (oldschool) More stuff to think about

Bigup the old skool scene.

Here's why:

Since I started playing a lot of old skool sets, and spreading my ideas of a "non-date-based" music scene, I have seen, over and over again, "newmusic" DJs dropping older 
tunes, and the idea of "what is new is automatically better" has started to shrivel.

I think that is HIGHLY important to the scene and the music.

We, as people who arent super concerned with what year a record came out when it comes to playing a set, influence the scene very much, and let them know that it's "ok" to 
drop something from 1, 2, 5, 10 years ago.

Just changing that "new=better" mindset, as we are doing, will influence, and set a meme for, the next generations of kids/DJs/promoters and so on to just look for good music, 
regardless of when it came out.  It will be "ok" to have not-the-newest tunes being played at raves.

It's already happened here.  

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

I mean the unknown is a bootleg.
Kevin Saunderson=tronik house, and the clip you played is very much NOT
like something Kevin Saunderson would release. The version you're
looking for seems to be a bootleg is what I meant.
If it is legit, I'm almost positive it wasn't released on KMS

---chris 

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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:11 pm
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

I think you're missing the point Chris,  i already have 4 versions of
this
tune that are *VERY* similar,  exactly the same BPM & stab noises
....but
NOT with the Amen break.  Its just this one version i'm looking
for...........


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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 October 2002 19:00
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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This is definitely a one off bootleg.
Tronik House, after all, is Kevin Saunderson, and he would never have
been caught dead making something that fast/hardcore rave-y
Unless he had a serious change of heart, that's gotta be a bootleg.

---chris

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:52 pm
To: Old Skool Mailing List
Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this
clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the
"white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the
post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
Mike




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>"I'm a DJ book me" is just like take, take, take. It not fun having people
>want things off you all the time for nothing in return.

that's a good point to keep in mind

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Subject: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

right wanna see peoples replies to this one:

A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like null line sorta dark) 
dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!

B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)

C. Top Darkside label

Ill start...

A.
1. Swift n Zinc volume 2- other side of the moon- brain progression 001
2. Jim polo- nightrider- dark horse 004
3. Waxdoctor- TBN remix - Basement
4. Trip 1- Snowball remix- Kniteforce
5. Tango and Ratty- Tails from the darkside
6. Bizzy B- Dubplate Wars
7. Bizzy B and Peshay- Merder Sytlee
8. SMF- Guillotene- Psychotic mix- smf004
9. Twisted Mentasm- Brain progression
10. + this one tune from a top buzz set i have to get id'ed!

B.- Ratty

C. Brain/Brain progression

Well thats my go, theres a few dark tracks ive got rollin round in my head 
which i know should go in me top 10 but their names escape me atm,

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> http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


Have you got the 2 Bad Mice remix? I used to have that and it sounds very
similar from memory.
Ive got it on an old mix tape I did somwhere, I'll try to dig it out.

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>  Started off a series of mix
> CD's which kept my
> name about.

Thats exactly how Doc Scott started, he did loads of mix tapes and gave them
out at Coventry university.
People then got to know him and thats how he got the name, as people were
coming back to him for their "fix" of the next batch of new tunes. Ie.
Doctor Scott.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

> A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like null line sorta
dark)
> dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!

1)4 Hero - Journey from the light EP - Reinforced
2)Hype N Flex - Do or die - De Underground
3)Dream - Power of darkness - De Ja Vu
4)Ruffige Kru - Darkrider - Reinforced
5)Invisible Man - The end (Alternative version) - Timeless
6)Metalheads - Synister - Synthetic
7)Peshay - Warped science - Paradise
8)Dexxtrous - Hysteria EP - Planet Earth
9)Outa Intelligence - Tales of the unexpected - Back 2 Basics
10)FBD Project - The core (B-boy mix) - FBD
Bonus:
11)Subject 13 - Uniqe-beatz EP (Remixes) - ULR

> B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)
There can only be one top dark dj from back then, and thats Ratty
everytime!!

> C. Top Darkside label
Reinforced.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

none of the mixes on network sound like Kevin Sauderson either so no reason
why it should be a bootleg - just a certain mix of it

Destiny - it ain't the 2 bad mice mix (2 of those sitting here).

whats so annoying is that all the mixes are utter shite and this unknown one
is one of the best tracks of 1992.

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I mean the unknown is a bootleg.
Kevin Saunderson=tronik house, and the clip you played is very much NOT
like something Kevin Saunderson would release. The version you're
looking for seems to be a bootleg is what I meant.
If it is legit, I'm almost positive it wasn't released on KMS

---chris

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I think you're missing the point Chris,  i already have 4 versions of
this
tune that are *VERY* similar,  exactly the same BPM & stab noises
....but
NOT with the Amen break.  Its just this one version i'm looking
for...........


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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 07 October 2002 19:00
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This is definitely a one off bootleg.
Tronik House, after all, is Kevin Saunderson, and he would never have
been caught dead making something that fast/hardcore rave-y
Unless he had a serious change of heart, that's gotta be a bootleg.

---chris

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Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this
clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the
"white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the
post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

its infuriating !

does anyone know LTJ Bukem ??   because its on his tape !!!!

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none of the mixes on network sound like Kevin Sauderson either so no reason
why it should be a bootleg - just a certain mix of it

Destiny - it ain't the 2 bad mice mix (2 of those sitting here).

whats so annoying is that all the mixes are utter shite and this unknown one
is one of the best tracks of 1992.

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
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I mean the unknown is a bootleg.
Kevin Saunderson=tronik house, and the clip you played is very much NOT
like something Kevin Saunderson would release. The version you're
looking for seems to be a bootleg is what I meant.
If it is legit, I'm almost positive it wasn't released on KMS

---chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Old Skool Forever [mailto:djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 1:11 pm
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

I think you're missing the point Chris,  i already have 4 versions of
this
tune that are *VERY* similar,  exactly the same BPM & stab noises
....but
NOT with the Amen break.  Its just this one version i'm looking
for...........


DJ Creativity - Old Skool Forever
http://www.old-skool.freeserve.co.uk


-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Landis Shively [mailto:heino@ku.edu]
Sent: 07 October 2002 19:00
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance


This is definitely a one off bootleg.
Tronik House, after all, is Kevin Saunderson, and he would never have
been caught dead making something that fast/hardcore rave-y
Unless he had a serious change of heart, that's gotta be a bootleg.

---chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Old Skool Forever [mailto:djcreativity@old-skool.freeserve.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 12:52 pm
To: Old Skool Mailing List
Subject: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

yes thats right....i have been stumped yet again in my attempts to find
the
correct mix of  Tronik House - Straight Outta Hell,  featured on this
clip
:-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm


I had been told reliably by someone who already owned it that i needed
the
"white label" promo which is inside a Network Records Sleeve.

So imagine my joy when i finally located a copy.... which turned up in
the
post today.

Everything looked good when i opened the package.... white label with a
Network Records Sleeve..... even with a "Tronik House" promo stamped on
it.
Getting nervous,  i put the tune on the turntable.....

F*CK ,   its NOT the one !!!!!!

I am so sick of trying to find this blasted tune,  i've got 4 different
releases now of this & none of them are right,  lol !!!

I'm starting to think that its a one off white label bootleg that wasn't
officially by Tronik House at all.

Can anyone help ID the clip properly :-

http://www.oldskoolforever.free-online.co.uk/unknown8.rm

and put me out of my misery (and Moody as well).

Oh yeah... i've lost the guys email address who told me it was a white
label,  i'd like to catch up with him....

cheers
Mike




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> whats so annoying is that all the mixes are utter shite and this unknown
one
> is one of the best tracks of 1992.

Seems it must be the dreaded "dubplate only" mix...

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

you could well be right , in which case none of us will ever get it :( 




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> whats so annoying is that all the mixes are utter shite and this unknown
one
> is one of the best tracks of 1992.

Seems it must be the dreaded "dubplate only" mix...

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Subject: (oldschool) AAAAAAAAAAAAAGH

My hard drive is crapping out on me.

Just got the dreaded ScanDisk error,
"ScanDisk encountered a data error while reading the FAT entry for cluster
1384511.  This error prevents ScanDisk from fixing this drive."

80 gigs worth of programs and MP3s.  Nearly down the shitter.  I'm _quite_
pissed about this.  Not what I needed in the slightest...

Thankfully I just got another (nearly) 80 gig hard drive for my birthday
-- what luck -- hopefully I can backup some of the files to it before it
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Bear with me!

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I completely agree really. That's why these days I'll only buy an old tune
if i think its "amazing".

The new generation don't really appreciate old skool anyway.. theres too
much "old vs new" bickering these days.

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just posted this on the b2vos forum, would like to hear people's responses
to what i have to say. Sorry if you have to read or responde
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> I remember we were going down the motorway with Jay once and he had
grabbed
> afew to listen to, just for something different. Every tape that went in
was
> listened to for abit, then it ended up going out the window.... LOL

I'm sure you just made everybody really enthusiastic about making mixtapes!
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> i've seen it all before.  I've been next to  DJ Seduction when hes f**ked
up
> a mix at Fantazia Showcase,  I've been next to Ramos when his mixing was
> awful,  i've seen LTJ Bukem starting and stopping records because he
> couldn't mix a beat,  i've heard Jumping Jack Frost tapes where he keeps
> spinning back the tune on the other deck which becomes increasingly
annoying
> when he does it all the time.....  the list goes on.....

Big events with crap sound systems can make even the best screw up!

Name a DJ that you've never heard screw up a mix.. I can't.

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>>Name a DJ that you've never heard screw up a mix.. I can't.

i've never seen Slipmatt drop a beat to be honest


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> >>Name a DJ that you've never heard screw up a mix.. I can't.
> 
> i've never seen Slipmatt drop a beat to be honest

I was going  to say the same thing.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


I used to think that too.. he is pretty damn good.. but I proved that if you
look hard enough you can always find an example of a bad mix. :) Admittedly
this was on a pretty old tape.. but I think the guy talking about dj's
fucking up mixes was talking about old events anyway?

Something else btw.. I think it was in a recent Knowledge magazine - I saw
Slipmatt listed on a flyer for a Drum & Bass event.

Is it *the* Slipmatt I wonder? Is it somebody else also called Slipmatt? I
think it would be excellent if Slipmatt took his skills over the dnb (he
should never have strayed over into HH!).

-dave

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>>Name a DJ that you've never heard screw up a mix.. I can't.

i've never seen Slipmatt drop a beat to be honest


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Subject: (oldschool) Slipmatt playing dnb?


A quote from a news item about 'XPRS YRSLF' on the dnb arena:

On the 6th and 20th July you can expect appearances from the likes of
Grooverider, Hype, Ray Keith, Randall, Shy FX, Optical, Ed Rush, Frenzic,
Slipmatt, Brockie, Jack Frost, Phantasy, Kenny Ken, Bad Company, Marcus
Intalex, GQ, Moose, IC3 and many many more – looks like the start of
something big.

See theres Slipmatt in there - is it really him?

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......

i actually thought Slipmatt was wicked when he was doing the HHC stuff.
Take a listen to his set at Slammin Vinyl Bagleys, May 96 i think.... its an
absolute corker !!!

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I used to think that too.. he is pretty damn good.. but I proved that if you
look hard enough you can always find an example of a bad mix. :) Admittedly
this was on a pretty old tape.. but I think the guy talking about dj's
fucking up mixes was talking about old events anyway?

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Is it *the* Slipmatt I wonder? Is it somebody else also called Slipmatt? I
think it would be excellent if Slipmatt took his skills over the dnb (he
should never have strayed over into HH!).

-dave


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) something to think about......


I have this on tape somewhere.. I used to really love it (don't tell
anyone!) but these days I just cringe when I hear anything like it.


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i actually thought Slipmatt was wicked when he was doing the HHC stuff.
Take a listen to his set at Slammin Vinyl Bagleys, May 96 i think.... its an
absolute corker !!!

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I used to think that too.. he is pretty damn good.. but I proved that if you
look hard enough you can always find an example of a bad mix. :) Admittedly
this was on a pretty old tape.. but I think the guy talking about dj's
fucking up mixes was talking about old events anyway?

Something else btw.. I think it was in a recent Knowledge magazine - I saw
Slipmatt listed on a flyer for a Drum & Bass event.

Is it *the* Slipmatt I wonder? Is it somebody else also called Slipmatt? I
think it would be excellent if Slipmatt took his skills over the dnb (he
should never have strayed over into HH!).

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Slipmatt playing dnb?

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> 
> A quote from a news item about 'XPRS YRSLF' on the dnb arena:

> See theres Slipmatt in there - is it really him?

Old skool set?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

> A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like null line sorta
dark)
> dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!

Darkness - Dove Records
Bay B Kane - Parraelle EP - Kikman
Mole the Dipper - Eye of the Dinosaur (is that dark enough???) - Bear
Necesssities
Nebula 2 - Peacemakers - Reinforced
Smooth but Hazzardous - Push up the Levels rmx - Sound Entity
Skanna - Heaven EP - Skanna
Doc Scott - Here Come the Drumz - Reinforced
Grooverider - Sinister remix - Reinforced
Higher Octave - Full Logic Control - Pro One
Omni Trio - Mainline (techno mix) - Moving Shadow

> B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)

Er... Dougal

> C. Top Darkside label

Well, looking at my list you'd think it would be Reinforced, but I think
I'll go crazy and say Sub Base. Controversial eh?

Word

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> > A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like null line sorta
>dark)
> > dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!

wicked Destiny - love those tunes - dont know if i've heard the Planet Earth 
one tho  - most of those tunes are in my playlist too

>1)4 Hero - Journey from the light EP - Reinforced
>2)Hype N Flex - Do or die - De Underground
>3)Dream - Power of darkness - De Ja Vu
>4)Ruffige Kru - Darkrider - Reinforced
>5)Invisible Man - The end (Alternative version) - Timeless
>6)Metalheads - Synister - Synthetic
>7)Peshay - Warped science - Paradise
>8)Dexxtrous - Hysteria EP - Planet Earth
>9)Outa Intelligence - Tales of the unexpected - Back 2 Basics
>10)FBD Project - The core (B-boy mix) - FBD
>Bonus:
>11)Subject 13 - Uniqe-beatz EP (Remixes) - ULR
>
> > B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)
>There can only be one top dark dj from back then, and thats Ratty
>everytime!!
>
> > C. Top Darkside label
>Reinforced.
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

top Darkside Label........

1st Basement
2nd Basement
3rd Basement
4th Basement

you could do a top ten darkside just out of their tunes

1. Livin in Darkness 93
2. On A Roll
3. Another Direction 93
3. I Wanna be Your Lover
4. We are Unity
5. Punishment
6. This is a Trip
7. Unfrienfly
8. Dark Matter 93
9. Stormtrooper
10.Sub Sector

and there is still Darkcore, Maintain her, TBN 93, Obscene, Kano etc. etc.
that you could put in.

and then move onto another top ten of Jack Smooth Darkside not on Basement -
Hedgehog Affair Prt 5, Push up the levels .................

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> A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like null line sorta
dark)
> dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!

Darkness - Dove Records
Bay B Kane - Parraelle EP - Kikman
Mole the Dipper - Eye of the Dinosaur (is that dark enough???) - Bear
Necesssities
Nebula 2 - Peacemakers - Reinforced
Smooth but Hazzardous - Push up the Levels rmx - Sound Entity
Skanna - Heaven EP - Skanna
Doc Scott - Here Come the Drumz - Reinforced
Grooverider - Sinister remix - Reinforced
Higher Octave - Full Logic Control - Pro One
Omni Trio - Mainline (techno mix) - Moving Shadow

> B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)

Er... Dougal

> C. Top Darkside label

Well, looking at my list you'd think it would be Reinforced, but I think
I'll go crazy and say Sub Base. Controversial eh?

Word

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Ive seen Slipmatt on flyers as Sl2 as well doing DnB sets, it didn't say if
it was old or new stuff tho.

Slipmatt plays hard (ish) house these days doesn't he? The mrs bought a
Slammin vinyl old skool pack, alongside that Dee Kline mix of Out of Space,
he also played Camisra- Let me show you.

Ive heard some awful mixes from Slipmatt, but we are all human at the end of
the day.

Peter Smith


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A quote from a news item about 'XPRS YRSLF' on the dnb arena:

On the 6th and 20th July you can expect appearances from the likes of
Grooverider, Hype, Ray Keith, Randall, Shy FX, Optical, Ed Rush, Frenzic,
Slipmatt, Brockie, Jack Frost, Phantasy, Kenny Ken, Bad Company, Marcus
Intalex, GQ, Moose, IC3 and many many more - looks like the start of
something big.

See theres Slipmatt in there - is it really him?

-dave
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Ive got some tapes of Slipmatt mixing dnb at events from about 1995 ;o)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

Heres another load, Ive avoided Reinforced and Basement as everyone already
knows em!

1)Bizzy B & Peshay - 2 Dope 2 - Brain
2)Ruff & Tumble Crew - Innocence - Brain Progression
3)Chaos & Julia Set - Fear of the future - Recoil
4)Metronome - Warning - Renk
5)DanE & MC MC - Twiglight zone - Kikman
6)DJ Solo - Darkage - Production House
7)Cool Hand Flex - Dangerous - U-NO-DAT
8)Cool Hand Flex - Out of control - De Underground
9)Peshay & Roger Johnston - Gangster - 2000AD
10)Various - Power Play Vol1 - Formation


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> wicked Destiny - love those tunes - dont know if i've heard the Planet
Earth
> one tho  - most of those tunes are in my playlist too

Its a 4 tracker, Ive recorded the best two for you ;o)
(Paste the links into Real Player to stream)
www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/hysteria.rm
www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/something_outthere.rm

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Subject: (oldschool) Fantazia - First Taste EP

i've got a spare of this white label promo sampler from the album "The First
Taste" with the following tunes on it :-

Sunset Regime - Real Feel
Top Buzz - World Wide Epidemik
Nicky Mac - Feel My Love
PSI - Feel It

its quite well worn,  but its *extremely* rare- so would be up for a very
good trade.

Email private stylee
cheers
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) More stuff to think about

Please don't use the word 'meme', I find it highly
offensive. 

 --- DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com> wrote: > Bigup
the old skool scene.
> 
> Here's why:
> 
> Since I started playing a lot of old skool sets, and
> spreading my ideas of a "non-date-based" music scene, I
> have seen, over and over again, "newmusic" DJs dropping
> older 
> tunes, and the idea of "what is new is automatically
> better" has started to shrivel.
> 
> I think that is HIGHLY important to the scene and the
> music.
> 
> We, as people who arent super concerned with what year a
> record came out when it comes to playing a set, influence
> the scene very much, and let them know that it's "ok" to 
> drop something from 1, 2, 5, 10 years ago.
> 
> Just changing that "new=better" mindset, as we are doing,
> will influence, and set a meme for, the next generations
> of kids/DJs/promoters and so on to just look for good
> music, 
> regardless of when it came out.  It will be "ok" to have
> not-the-newest tunes being played at raves.
> 
> It's already happened here.  
> 
> ------------------
> "ive always lubed my ian , i dont underdtand why ppl bitch
> and moan and argue with him" - Raine Maggio (R.I.P.
> 9/18/83 - 9/9/02)
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Slipmatt playing dnb?

I've got a 94 jungle CD with a 30 min Slipmatt mix and a 30
min Kenny Ken mix. 

 --- DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >
Ive got some tapes of Slipmatt mixing dnb at events from
> about 1995 ;o)
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Ratpack have played a couple of jungle events at the Sidewinder Helter
Skelters as well.

Dunno what they were like tho.


Peter Smith


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I've got a 94 jungle CD with a 30 min Slipmatt mix and a 30
min Kenny Ken mix. 

 --- DJ Destiny <djdestiny@kikit.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >
Ive got some tapes of Slipmatt mixing dnb at events from
> about 1995 ;o)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

Rugged Vinyl and Ram deserve a mention. As does DJ
Younghead!

"You give our position away again, I'll bleed you..."


 --- DJ Moody <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com> wrote: > top
Darkside Label........
> 
> 1st Basement
> 2nd Basement
> 3rd Basement
> 4th Basement
> 
> you could do a top ten darkside just out of their tunes
> 
> 1. Livin in Darkness 93
> 2. On A Roll
> 3. Another Direction 93
> 3. I Wanna be Your Lover
> 4. We are Unity
> 5. Punishment
> 6. This is a Trip
> 7. Unfrienfly
> 8. Dark Matter 93
> 9. Stormtrooper
> 10.Sub Sector
> 
> and there is still Darkcore, Maintain her, TBN 93,
> Obscene, Kano etc. etc.
> that you could put in.
> 
> and then move onto another top ten of Jack Smooth Darkside
> not on Basement -
> Hedgehog Affair Prt 5, Push up the levels
> .................
> 
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> > A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like
> null line sorta
> dark)
> > dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!
> 
> Darkness - Dove Records
> Bay B Kane - Parraelle EP - Kikman
> Mole the Dipper - Eye of the Dinosaur (is that dark
> enough???) - Bear
> Necesssities
> Nebula 2 - Peacemakers - Reinforced
> Smooth but Hazzardous - Push up the Levels rmx - Sound
> Entity
> Skanna - Heaven EP - Skanna
> Doc Scott - Here Come the Drumz - Reinforced
> Grooverider - Sinister remix - Reinforced
> Higher Octave - Full Logic Control - Pro One
> Omni Trio - Mainline (techno mix) - Moving Shadow
> 
> > B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)
> 
> Er... Dougal
> 
> > C. Top Darkside label
> 
> Well, looking at my list you'd think it would be
> Reinforced, but I think
> I'll go crazy and say Sub Base. Controversial eh?
> 
> Word
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Slipmatt playing dnb?

> Ratpack have played a couple of jungle events at the Sidewinder Helter
> Skelters as well.
>
> Dunno what they were like tho.

At a guess.... anthems all the way, with a fucking annoying MC over the top
LOL

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Such a cynic.... tut tut!

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> Ratpack have played a couple of jungle events at the Sidewinder Helter
> Skelters as well.
>
> Dunno what they were like tho.

At a guess.... anthems all the way, with a fucking annoying MC over the top
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Subject: (oldschool) KUS ?


does anyone have any idea if this label - KUS - kickin' underground sound
(??) did any oldschool releases as first, or did they just kick it off with
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

oh yeah there are 2 darkcore audio archives on my site 10 tunes each - first
one is all classics and 2nd one is more underground. www.oldskoolmadness.com
> audio > archive > darkcore or darkcore2.

(as well as being able to hear all the basement tunes I mentioned b4 in the
basement discog - includes audio)

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING


Rugged Vinyl and Ram deserve a mention. As does DJ
Younghead!

"You give our position away again, I'll bleed you..."


 --- DJ Moody <s.lillicrap@btinternet.com> wrote: > top
Darkside Label........
>
> 1st Basement
> 2nd Basement
> 3rd Basement
> 4th Basement
>
> you could do a top ten darkside just out of their tunes
>
> 1. Livin in Darkness 93
> 2. On A Roll
> 3. Another Direction 93
> 3. I Wanna be Your Lover
> 4. We are Unity
> 5. Punishment
> 6. This is a Trip
> 7. Unfrienfly
> 8. Dark Matter 93
> 9. Stormtrooper
> 10.Sub Sector
>
> and there is still Darkcore, Maintain her, TBN 93,
> Obscene, Kano etc. etc.
> that you could put in.
>
> and then move onto another top ten of Jack Smooth Darkside
> not on Basement -
> Hedgehog Affair Prt 5, Push up the levels
> .................
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.nrgized.co.uk
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> www.interface-radio.co.uk
> Oldskool Madness - Live Oldskool 8pm till late Tuesdays
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Cant [mailto:tim.cant@ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 08 October 2002 02:50
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING
>
>
> > A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like
> null line sorta
> dark)
> > dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!
>
> Darkness - Dove Records
> Bay B Kane - Parraelle EP - Kikman
> Mole the Dipper - Eye of the Dinosaur (is that dark
> enough???) - Bear
> Necesssities
> Nebula 2 - Peacemakers - Reinforced
> Smooth but Hazzardous - Push up the Levels rmx - Sound
> Entity
> Skanna - Heaven EP - Skanna
> Doc Scott - Here Come the Drumz - Reinforced
> Grooverider - Sinister remix - Reinforced
> Higher Octave - Full Logic Control - Pro One
> Omni Trio - Mainline (techno mix) - Moving Shadow
>
> > B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)
>
> Er... Dougal
>
> > C. Top Darkside label
>
> Well, looking at my list you'd think it would be
> Reinforced, but I think
> I'll go crazy and say Sub Base. Controversial eh?
>
> Word
>
> Tim
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

1. boucing- ratty- formation
2. thunderclap ep- skanna
3. destiny- essence of aura- outstanding
4. tango & fallout- intregue
5. anything from the looking to the light ep- 4 hero
6. dark star- formula 7- quayside
7. fear of the future- chaos & julia set
8. skanna- nightstalker ep
9. want you know- ss & eq remix- subbase
10. horn track- tim taylor ( i think this is as dark as f***)


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> right wanna see peoples replies to this one:
>
> A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like null line sorta
dark)
> dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!
>
> B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)
>
> C. Top Darkside label
>
> Ill start...
>
> A.
> 1. Swift n Zinc volume 2- other side of the moon- brain progression 001
> 2. Jim polo- nightrider- dark horse 004
> 3. Waxdoctor- TBN remix - Basement
> 4. Trip 1- Snowball remix- Kniteforce
> 5. Tango and Ratty- Tails from the darkside
> 6. Bizzy B- Dubplate Wars
> 7. Bizzy B and Peshay- Merder Sytlee
> 8. SMF- Guillotene- Psychotic mix- smf004
> 9. Twisted Mentasm- Brain progression
> 10. + this one tune from a top buzz set i have to get id'ed!
>
> B.- Ratty
>
> C. Brain/Brain progression
>
> Well thats my go, theres a few dark tracks ive got rollin round in my head
> which i know should go in me top 10 but their names escape me atm,
>
> gwaaan, give it a go,
>
> rob
>
>
>
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yeah slipmatt is a don

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Subject: (oldschool) horn track



 RW> 10. horn track- tim taylor ( i think this is as dark as f***)

i got this track in slightly broken techno version on Missile
Records (long time ago), but have heard also same horns with oldskool breakbeat laying
on the floor.  is breakbeat stuff same Tim Taylor? I though he is
producing acid techno :)

all the best

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) horn track

yes very much techno man - but he made couple of oldskool breakbeat tunes -
Horn track on Focus UK being one and DJ Business - Mystery Man being the
other big one (when I say big I mean massively big).

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Subject: (oldschool) horn track




 RW> 10. horn track- tim taylor ( i think this is as dark as f***)

i got this track in slightly broken techno version on Missile
Records (long time ago), but have heard also same horns with oldskool
breakbeat laying
on the floor.  is breakbeat stuff same Tim Taylor? I though he is
producing acid techno :)

all the best

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Subject: (oldschool) Re: DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

Ok here goes:

A.
1. Jim Polo "Rolling Energy" Dark Horse
2. Oaysis "Open Secrets" Moving Shadow
3. The Invisible Man "The Beginning" Timeless
4. The Invisible Man "Twisted" Timeless
5. Warped Kore "The Power" Whitehouse
6. Nosebleed "Left Nostril" Face
7. Doc Scott "Let's Go" Reinforced
8. Goldie "Saint Angel" Synthetic
9. Jim Polo "Night Rider Part 1" Dark Horse
10. FBD Project "The Core" Bangin Tunes

Gosh there's too many!! I can think of plenty more.
Can I have a Top 50!!

B.
Gotta be Randall (how much can you handle). Quite
simply one of the best, darkest DJs of 93 with mixing
as tight as a ... !

C.
Tough one, but I'd go for Dark Horse I reckon.

Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:23:15 +0100To:
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right wanna see peoples replies to this one:
A. Top 10 dark as fuck tracks, mental dark, (not like
null line sorta dark) 
dont have to be in any order, thats too tuff!
B. Top Dark dj- ONLY 1 ! (not tango AND ratty lol!)C.
Top Darkside label
Ill start...A.
1. Swift n Zinc volume 2- other side of the moon-
brain progression 001
2. Jim polo- nightrider- dark horse 0043. Waxdoctor-
TBN remix - Basement
4. Trip 1- Snowball remix- Kniteforce5. Tango and
Ratty- Tails from the darkside
6. Bizzy B- Dubplate Wars7. Bizzy B and Peshay- Merder
Sytlee
8. SMF- Guillotene- Psychotic mix- smf0049. Twisted
Mentasm- Brain progression
10. + this one tune from a top buzz set i have to get
id'ed!B.- Ratty
C. Brain/Brain progression
Well thats my go, theres a few dark tracks ive got
rollin round in my head 
which i know should go in me top 10 but their names
escape me atm,
gwaaan, give it a go,rob
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Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) horn track

thanx for the info moody!

what was excact name of this olkskool breakbeat horn track and under
what moniker did Mr. Taylor make it ? i must get this record.

the techno one is kind of cool but way too pounding, so i don't play
it often.




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Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 2:58:06 PM, you wrote:

DM> yes very much techno man - but he made couple of oldskool breakbeat tunes -
DM> Horn track on Focus UK being one and DJ Business - Mystery Man being the
DM> other big one (when I say big I mean massively big).

DM> Steve
DM> aka DJ Moody
DM> www.nrgized.co.uk
DM> www.oldskoolmadness.com
DM> www.interface-radio.co.uk
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DM> -----Original Message-----
DM> From: Ivars Mednis [mailto:ivars.mednis@lkb.lv]
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DM> Subject: (oldschool) horn track




DM>  RW> 10. horn track- tim taylor ( i think this is as dark as f***)

DM> i got this track in slightly broken techno version on Missile
DM> Records (long time ago), but have heard also same horns with oldskool
DM> breakbeat laying
DM> on the floor.  is breakbeat stuff same Tim Taylor? I though he is
DM> producing acid techno :)

DM> all the best

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> i've never seen Slipmatt drop a beat to be honest
I was going  to say the same thing.

I've got an Eclipse tape from '91 with man paris on
the MC and the mixing is a little "avante garde"

Once you start playing on big systems you start to 
appreciate its not the same as sitting in your 
bedroom making a mix.

Theres nothing like crappy or no monitors, dodgy
headphone line out , a fader that cuts out randomly
and has to have a fag packet wedged under it....
etc etc to make you appreciate how nice and safe
your bedroom is.  Add to that a club full of drug
assisted nutters all trying to hum their fave tune
into your ear over the PA and you get an idea 
of what its like.

Still its when it all goes well its the best.

TOP darks tune
essence of aura  - can I dream / intruder 

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (oldschool) horn track

Remeber there is also a similar tune called Istanbul, also by Tim Taylor.
This came out afew releases before the horn track, and is better IMO.

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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (oldschool) horn track

egyptian empire


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> thanx for the info moody!
>
> what was excact name of this olkskool breakbeat horn track and under
> what moniker did Mr. Taylor make it ? i must get this record.
>
> the techno one is kind of cool but way too pounding, so i don't play
> it often.
>
>
>
>
> --
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>  Ivars
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> Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 2:58:06 PM, you wrote:
>
> DM> yes very much techno man - but he made couple of oldskool breakbeat
tunes -
> DM> Horn track on Focus UK being one and DJ Business - Mystery Man being
the
> DM> other big one (when I say big I mean massively big).
>
> DM> Steve
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> DM> Subject: (oldschool) horn track
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>
>
>
> DM>  RW> 10. horn track- tim taylor ( i think this is as dark as f***)
>
> DM> i got this track in slightly broken techno version on Missile
> DM> Records (long time ago), but have heard also same horns with oldskool
> DM> breakbeat laying
> DM> on the floor.  is breakbeat stuff same Tim Taylor? I though he is
> DM> producing acid techno :)
>
> DM> all the best
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Subject: Re[4]: (oldschool) horn track

any sample online ? both horntracker and istanbuler ...


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Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 3:11:42 PM, you wrote:

DD> Remeber there is also a similar tune called Istanbul, also by Tim Taylor.
DD> This came out afew releases before the horn track, and is better IMO.

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Subject: Re: Re[4]: (oldschool) horn track

http://www.jungletekno.com/cream8.htm

horn track at the bottom


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> any sample online ? both horntracker and istanbuler ...
>
>
> --
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> ivars.mednis@lkb.lv
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> Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 3:11:42 PM, you wrote:
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> DD> Remeber there is also a similar tune called Istanbul, also by Tim
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> DD> This came out afew releases before the horn track, and is better IMO.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Slipmatt playing dnb?

didn`t slipmatt do dnb sets at elevation, life and utopia and desire to name 
but a few !!


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>Ive got some tapes of Slipmatt mixing dnb at events from about 1995 ;o)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Slipmatt playing dnb?

yeah, i saw Slipmatt play (D&B) in the D&B room at a club in Newport,
South Wales, Summer '95.

...and in the past few months i've seen Styles (as in Force &) playing
jungle (anthems) too! :o

Bart


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Subject: (oldschool) Tasty trades

Ellis D Project - Rock 2 the Max/ Do U want me
Yolk - Music for the People EP original (inc. BishBosh)


Mmm, nice! I'm probably gonna eBay them but perhaps someone with a copy of
Who Knows EP by Bookworm or maybe Phlight of the Innovators could change my
mind...

Oh yeah, and for me I got Sounds of the Underground remix (£20, a good price
I reckon) and Darkage remix - wicked!!!!


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Tronik House Annoyance

Dunno, what about Uptempo and Pump It Up, they were pretty banging?

Incidentally, has anyone ever seen E-DANCER: Pump It Up for sale...

>This is definitely a one off bootleg.
>Tronik House, after all, is Kevin Saunderson, and he would never have
>been caught dead making something that fast/hardcore rave-y
>Unless he had a serious change of heart, that's gotta be a bootleg.
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) DARKSIDE MENTALIST THING

Cheers Steve, you've saved me a bit of typing time! Agree totally =)

>top Darkside Label........
>
>1st Basement
>2nd Basement
>3rd Basement
>4th Basement
>
>you could do a top ten darkside just out of their tunes
>
>1. Livin in Darkness 93
>2. On A Roll
>3. Another Direction 93
>3. I Wanna be Your Lover
>4. We are Unity
>5. Punishment
>6. This is a Trip
>7. Unfrienfly
>8. Dark Matter 93
>9. Stormtrooper
>10.Sub Sector
>
>and there is still Darkcore, Maintain her, TBN 93, Obscene, Kano etc. etc.
>that you could put in.
>
>and then move onto another top ten of Jack Smooth Darkside not on Basement 
>-
>Hedgehog Affair Prt 5, Push up the levels .................
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) horn track

Aye it's the same guy. If I remember rightly Dan Zamani was involved too, 
plus there was the Toxic 2 remix by Damon Wild on the same piece of vinyl. 
So it's a bit of a US techno artist showcase

>  RW> 10. horn track- tim taylor ( i think this is as dark as f***)
>
>i got this track in slightly broken techno version on Missile
>Records (long time ago), but have heard also same horns with oldskool 
>breakbeat laying
>on the floor.  is breakbeat stuff same Tim Taylor? I though he is
>producing acid techno :)
>
>all the best
>
>ivars


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Subject: Re[2]: (oldschool) horn track

Aye it's the same guy. If I remember rightly Dan Zamani was involved too,
PW> plus there was the Toxic 2 remix by Damon Wild on the same piece of vinyl. 
PW> So it's a bit of a US techno artist showcase

Yeah correct,

Actualy techno version stated "Tim Taylor & Dan Zamani - Horn Track",
there was also Fred rmx out (Fred = Cari Lekebusch)

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> Aye it's the same guy. If I remember rightly Dan Zamani was involved too,
> PW> plus there was the Toxic 2 remix by Damon Wild on the same piece of
vinyl.

Wots that one like? Have Toxic 2 done anything apart from Rave Generator and
Trance with Me (was it?)

Is the Mickey Finn mix of Horn Track only on the FFRR release? I bought
Horns 4 94 thinking it was the one I liked, but it's utter wankbox. I seem
to remember the 2000 remix on B2B classix being aight though.

ta!

Tim



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Subject: Re: Re[2]: (oldschool) horn track

Toxic 2 mix is on the flip of the FFRR release alongside the Mickey Finn 
one. Can't really remember what it's like to be honest, nothing 
groundbreaking anyway. I think Toxic 2 wound down when Damon Wild started 
Synewave/Geometric in 93/94.

I thought all the dnb mixes were a bit poo to be honest!

>Wots that one like? Have Toxic 2 done anything apart from Rave Generator 
>and
>Trance with Me (was it?)
>
>Is the Mick