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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

i'm not getting into another one of these arguments. i dissagree.

----- Original Message -----
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
>
> > i think it's hillarious when dj's put their own tracks in top 10's or
> > whatever. especially when it's not even released..
>
> so that means that most deejays who also produce have "hilarious" top
tens?
> why cant an unreleased song of your own be one of the ten most reacted to
> tunes you play when you spin? i think this statement was ridiculous.
>
> >and since when is a cd a
> > dubplate?
>
> since it became possible to make "temporary" cd's and spin them inna
> deejaying manner properly and cheaply. does it really matter if the tune
is
> cut to acetate or if its played from the CD that the dubplate would be cut
> from?
>
> tom
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

i swear, this list produces at least one post a day of someone saying
something so ignorantly retarded that i have to comment on it. even dipshit
local raves lists dont get as much of a rise out of me as this one does. its
especially funny since i would assume most people here are not idiots as it
takes some knowledge and dedication to care about old school.

anyway, what do you disagree with? i didnt make any strictly dialectical
statements aside from "i think this statement was ridiculous." everything
else was a question. do do you disagree with my quote, or with a question i
asked?

tom

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> i'm not getting into another one of these arguments. i dissagree.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:11 AM
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>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> >
> > > i think it's hillarious when dj's put their own tracks in top 10's or
> > > whatever. especially when it's not even released..
> >
> > so that means that most deejays who also produce have "hilarious" top
> tens?
> > why cant an unreleased song of your own be one of the ten most reacted
to
> > tunes you play when you spin? i think this statement was ridiculous.
> >
> > >and since when is a cd a
> > > dubplate?
> >
> > since it became possible to make "temporary" cd's and spin them inna
> > deejaying manner properly and cheaply. does it really matter if the tune
> is
> > cut to acetate or if its played from the CD that the dubplate would be
cut
> > from?
> >
> > tom
> >
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > CEO http://www.steelcitysoul.com
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Old hardcore needs ID

its by Speedfreak, on Titanium Steel Records

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> Subject: (oldschool) Old hardcore needs ID
> 
> 
> Anyone know who wrote an old hardcore track with a sample that 
> goes on about
> a titanium steal bunny with screws in his head.  I know sounds a 
> bit mad and
> it was.
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From oldschool-return-75464-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Mon Apr 01 11:25:43 2002
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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday

Anyone up for going to this? (details below)
Also, has anyone on here ever heard Scorpio, Ribbz or Producer play
oldskool before? Any idea if they'll be playing oldskool hardcore or
oldskool gabber or what? If not I'll just have to find out when I get
there innit... :)

Chris


Total Recall @ The Dance Academy, Union Street, Plymouth, England
10:00pm - 5:00am

Arena 1 - Old Skool: 
SY
PRODUCER
SCORPIO
DESTRUCTION
RIBBZ
APACHE
MUTLEY

Arena 2 - North / Hindsight: 
VORTEX
SHARKEY
NICK THE KID
DAVE ROWLANZ
CHRIS BLADE
DEAN CARTWRIGHT

MCs: RIBBZ & SQUIDGY B

Price: £12 on the door


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) another finest illusion


hmm,
i rekon £127.69p!

rob

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>Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:59:56 +0000
>
>I'll guess
>£154
>
>Chris
>
>
>DJ AZTEK wrote:
> >
> > right then seeing as paulo won the last one (have you got your lolipop 
>yet? hope it hasn't got eaten by your greedy postman) my estimate is £170 
>again. closest now gets a slightly scratched copy of dj hype- weird energy. 
>it's a subbase promo too.
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=854631632
> >
> > dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > http://jungletekno.bossak.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

> since it became possible to make "temporary" cd's and spin them inna
> deejaying manner properly and cheaply. does it really matter if the tune
is
> cut to acetate or if its played from the CD that the dubplate would be cut
> from?

You state it can be a CD dubplate, yet in the next sentence you say the
dubplate is cut FROM the CD, therefore, the CD is not the dubplate.

At the end of the day it's mearly a burnt CDR....... LMFAO @ CD dubplate
(Ive heard it all now!)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tune ID hats on!

Cheers for all the help with the Id's!! :o)

Especially been after the Tom & Jerry and Smith Inc
ones for a long long time.

I used to think that Smith Inc track was a remix of
JMJ & Richie and was gutted when I found it wasn't.
Used to hear Randall caning that one all the time in
93.

Thanks again!

Matt B


Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:50:36 +0100
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this tunes is:
Smith Inc - Music + Life (remix) - Absolute 2 Records.

dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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> which one is tune 7 on the 3rd part of the mp3s?
> 
> dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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> From: "Matt B" <matt_bassline@yahoo.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:49 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) Tune ID hats on!
> 
> 
> > I've just put three ID's up I wouldn't mind some
help
> > with. All three are taken from the Randall and
Kenny
> > Ken 93 AWOL set that Chris is hosting on Breakizm:
> > 
> > Check them out here:
> > 
> > http://www.bassline-uk.com/oldskool/realaudio/ids/
> > 
> > Cheers in advance!
> > 
> > Matt B


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Subject: (oldschool) Brainkillers set on Inocence FM

Play:
http://www.skoolhouse.com/realaudio/brainkillers.ram

D/L :
http://www.skoolhouse.com/media/brainkillers.rm

Just uploaded this one, nice late 91 / early 92 stuff.


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Subject: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993

Just been having a good listen to the SS set on your
Oldskool Madness site Steve. Very, very nice selection
of tunes!

.. but fuck me MC Magika really stoops to a new low on
that one. Fuckin hell - if I see him again I'm gonna
nut him! I swear. The guy is a premium dick! LOL

How many times does he sing 'rockin with the House
Crew bass' does someone wanna tell him it's DJ SS
playing not the House Crew. heh heh

Rant over. Wicked set all the same, nice one Steve.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993

> Just been having a good listen to the SS set on your
> Oldskool Madness site Steve. Very, very nice selection
> of tunes!
> 
> .. but fuck me MC Magika really stoops to a new low on
> that one. Fuckin hell - if I see him again I'm gonna
> nut him! I swear. The guy is a premium dick! LOL

I could of told you that without hearing that set LOL
What a prick he was/is.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Best E-bay auction ever (+ a new event)

steve. i might aswell come back to Bournemouth for that. any chance of a
guest pass for a list buddy?

dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
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> Oh yes the cheek of it - a full on 25p full spread advert. Check here:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=855270729
>
> and if you can't be bothered with the link I'm proud the announce to ya
> ......
>
> ***** a new night of pure 100% oldskool hardcore for the South Coast
> massice, no compromise, no athem bashing, put on by ravers for ravers
*****
>
>
> reENERGIZE
>
> Sat 13th April - Bournemouth
>
> Arena 1 - 91/93 Oldskool Hardcore
>
> SY (the scratchmaster)
> Dance (F-Project/Fantasia etc)
> Jedi & Stormtrooper (Raindance/Future Dance)
> Moody & Rizzla (Breakpirates)
> Maxx Vinyl (the lists very own)
>
> Arena 2 - 88/91 Chill out Session
>
>
> if you wanna see the full flyer click here:
>
> http://www.oldskoolmadness.com/Events.htm
>
>
> Shit I'm getting exited about this already. A posse of peeps off B2VOS are
> going - anyone from the list fancy meeting up as well.
>
> Cheers
>
> Steve
> aka DJ Moody
> www.breakpirates.com
> www.oldskoolmadness.com
> Monday Madness - Live Oldskool 9pm till late
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Best E-bay auction ever (+ a new event)

What exactly does the VIP status get you?
Does it skip the queue that wont be that big anyway? ;o)

Only jokin.....

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993

Yeah that set is one of my all time favourites. When I tracklisted it I
realised how lazy SS had been with it. Loads of Formation of course a few
Basement and plays the A and B side of quite a few - must have only had 10
tunes in his bag that night -lol - but the set is still a blinder.

As for Magika I've heard the set so many times it's kinda starting to fit
now in a strange way but yeah the Mc'ing is shite as it nearly always is.

Steve
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Just been having a good listen to the SS set on your
Oldskool Madness site Steve. Very, very nice selection
of tunes!

.. but fuck me MC Magika really stoops to a new low on
that one. Fuckin hell - if I see him again I'm gonna
nut him! I swear. The guy is a premium dick! LOL

How many times does he sing 'rockin with the House
Crew bass' does someone wanna tell him it's DJ SS
playing not the House Crew. heh heh

Rant over. Wicked set all the same, nice one Steve.

Matt B

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Subject: (oldschool) It's Finshed muhahaha

Nu Demo For me
took me fucking long enough to get it over with

got up at 6 am went down stairs turned on all my equipment
and just did it and i must say i sound fucking great





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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Best E-bay auction ever (+ a new event)

OK the VIP bit .... yeah well making it up quickly.... I mean ..
errrhh....well their ain't really any VIP treatment its just a gimick for
E-bay but if someone is silly enough to bid on it I can make sure they meet
SY and DJ Dance and introduce them to the sexy dancers we are getting and
basically be nice to them :)

Steve
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-----Original Message-----
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What exactly does the VIP status get you?
Does it skip the queue that wont be that big anyway? ;o)

Only jokin.....

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Subject: (oldschool) Lookin for tunes? 

>I decided to give up spinning, cause Im just spending way too much
>money on tunes.  I need to start worrying about rent more and things,
>and I have this outstanding 
>electricity bill that I need to pay PRONTO or it will get shut off. 
>Fucking sux.  But I've had my fun, so whatever. 

>PS: look at the date. 

As if it wasn't obvious, with you relying on DJing to make a living
and all.

Keep your money for something else...I just walked down to my local
record shop and saw a bunch of old Moving Shadow releases in mint
condition..the owner said they got a repress.  Better snatch them up
quick :)

Kate, I own a CD!


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> > Oh yes the cheek of it - a full on 25p full spread advert. Check here:
> >
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=855270729


but it's only 3 quid to get in,

so ya have to pay 2 quid for VIP treatment

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> but it's only 3 quid to get in,
>
> so ya have to pay 2 quid for VIP treatment
>
> LOL

But that sounds like a bargin especially if moody's gonna sort you out with
the Lap dancers =))


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> > > Oh yes the cheek of it - a full on 25p full spread advert. Check here:
> > >
> > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=855270729
>
>
> but it's only 3 quid to get in,
>
> so ya have to pay 2 quid for VIP treatment
>
> LOL
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>
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> Just go there and dance! - Sheeeeeeeesh" - Dj pHTHor
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

> Since the rave scene starting realizing that being a vinyl/acetate purist
> is ridiculously expensive and wasteful.

eeer it's only expensive, if ya don't know wot ya doing,
or very impulsive, when ya see a toon ya after
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it just the sign of the times.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Best E-bay auction ever (+ a new event)

> But that sounds like a bargin especially if moody's gonna sort you out
with
> the Lap dancers =))

2 quid aint gonna get you much action tho LOL

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Lookin for tunes?

Yeah, don't even go there you april fool

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:

> I decided to give up spinning, cause Im just spending way too much money on tunes.  I need to start worrying about rent more and things, and I have this outstanding 
> electricity bill that I need to pay PRONTO or it will get shut off.  Fucking sux.  But I've had my fun, so whatever.
> 
> Instead of going through all my tunes and eBayin' em all one by one, I'm just gonna sell everything for $5 a piece, no matter what the rarity.  I just need money fast, and I'm 
> kinda disillusioned by everything right now, so whatever.
> 
> Anything anyone wants, just email me a list, and first come first serve.
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> PS: look at the date.
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> ------------
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> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Best E-bay auction ever (+ a new event)

> > but it's only 3 quid to get in,
> >
> > so ya have to pay 2 quid for VIP treatment
> >
> > LOL
>
> But that sounds like a bargin especially if moody's gonna sort you out
with
> the Lap dancers =))


yeah, a quid each ;o)


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Subject: (oldschool) Moooooondance

anybody else go?

i caught dr s, ellis dee, hype and the start of ratpack. hype tore that
place up!








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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

4/1/2002 12:18:45 PM, "M@xxViNyL" <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> wrote:

>> Since the rave scene starting realizing that being a vinyl/acetate purist
>> is ridiculously expensive and wasteful.
>
>eeer it's only expensive, if ya don't know wot ya doing,
>or very impulsive, when ya see a toon ya after
>and are will to pay silly money for it.
>
>it just the sign of the times.

I'm not an advocate of getting rid of vinyl, I'm simply a realist that realizes there are many good things out there that will never see vinyl because of finacial reasons, but they 
should be heard!

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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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Subject: (oldschool) APRIL FOOLZ!

I case anyone was still wondering, I am NOT selling my tunes or giving up spinning.  :)

It was an April Fools joke!

And I got a few of ya!

:)

smile!



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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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man, i've heard some severe crap on vinyl.. if something really spectacular
isn't on vinyl, it's because the artist either doesn't want it on vinyl, or
is a stupid shit who can't market himself to labels and his tunes don't
deserve to be on vinyl anyway.

----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
To: "Ye Olde Skool" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; "M@xxViNyL"
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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:26 PM
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> 4/1/2002 12:18:45 PM, "M@xxViNyL" <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> Since the rave scene starting realizing that being a vinyl/acetate
purist
> >> is ridiculously expensive and wasteful.
> >
> >eeer it's only expensive, if ya don't know wot ya doing,
> >or very impulsive, when ya see a toon ya after
> >and are will to pay silly money for it.
> >
> >it just the sign of the times.
>
> I'm not an advocate of getting rid of vinyl, I'm simply a realist that
realizes there are many good things out there that will never see vinyl
because of finacial reasons, but they
> should be heard!
>
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
by The Prodigy, 1992
>
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
ian@djentropy.com
>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
boston)
>       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
>   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
>      Register to vote NOW:
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>          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
>         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
Educate the
>        narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine -
Genacide II
>
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool) Re: Vinyl Purism

4/1/2002 3:54:26 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:

>man, i've heard some severe crap on vinyl.. if something really spectacular
>isn't on vinyl, it's because the artist either doesn't want it on vinyl, or
>is a stupid shit who can't market himself to labels and his tunes don't
>deserve to be on vinyl anyway.

Ya know, if it was 1993 and CDRs, CD Turntables, MP3s, and Final Scratch didn't exist, I would ALMOST agree with you.

However, why should the music being heard out at an event be only limited to ONE medium?  And that medium is HIGHLY expensive, and a pain in the ass to deal with, when 
placed next to other mediums.

I'm not an advocate of crappy music, and of course, with an easier and cheaper medium, you'll have much more crap out there, but you'll ALSO have much more good stuff.

More music available and being played is ALWAYS a good thing.

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I have just finished adding a forum to our website, so if anyone
is interested in signing up, then you can get to it here:

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I'll also be adding our links page, so if anyone wants to exchange links
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> However, why should the music being heard out at an event be only limited
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to deal with, when
> placed next to other mediums.

Give me vinyl everytime, I dont care if its more expensive or harder to get
hold of, if it aint on vinyl, I dont want it ;op

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993

is there anyone out there that likes magika??? he ruins all my tapes hes
on

DJ Moody wrote:
> 
> Yeah that set is one of my all time favourites. When I tracklisted it I
> realised how lazy SS had been with it. Loads of Formation of course a few
> Basement and plays the A and B side of quite a few - must have only had 10
> tunes in his bag that night -lol - but the set is still a blinder.
> 
> As for Magika I've heard the set so many times it's kinda starting to fit
> now in a strange way but yeah the Mc'ing is shite as it nearly always is.
> 
> Steve
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt B [mailto:matt_bassline@yahoo.co.uk]
> Sent: 01 April 2002 15:07
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> Subject: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993
> 
> Just been having a good listen to the SS set on your
> Oldskool Madness site Steve. Very, very nice selection
> of tunes!
> 
> .. but fuck me MC Magika really stoops to a new low on
> that one. Fuckin hell - if I see him again I'm gonna
> nut him! I swear. The guy is a premium dick! LOL
> 
> How many times does he sing 'rockin with the House
> Crew bass' does someone wanna tell him it's DJ SS
> playing not the House Crew. heh heh
> 
> Rant over. Wicked set all the same, nice one Steve.
> 
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what style did hype play???

Paolo wrote:
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> anybody else go?
> 
> i caught dr s, ellis dee, hype and the start of ratpack. hype tore that
> place up!
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was there an earlier mix of this that was prior to the one on =
reinforced?

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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <death@andythepooh.com>

i swear, this list produces at least one post a day of someone saying
something so ignorantly retarded that i have to comment on it. even dipshit
local raves lists dont get as much of a rise out of me as this one does. its
especially funny since i would assume most people here are not idiots as it
takes some knowledge and dedication to care about old school.

........so why stay on the list it annoys you so?

anyway, what do you disagree with? i didnt make any strictly dialectical
statements aside from "i think this statement was ridiculous." everything
else was a question. do do you disagree with my quote, or with a question i
asked?

......burgess revisited indeed

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this type of stuff makes me glad that Tommy boy or junior to his mates is in
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> From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <death@andythepooh.com>
>
> i swear, this list produces at least one post a day of someone saying
> something so ignorantly retarded that i have to comment on it. even
dipshit
> local raves lists dont get as much of a rise out of me as this one does.
its
> especially funny since i would assume most people here are not idiots as
it
> takes some knowledge and dedication to care about old school.
>
> ........so why stay on the list it annoys you so?
>
> anyway, what do you disagree with? i didnt make any strictly dialectical
> statements aside from "i think this statement was ridiculous." everything
> else was a question. do do you disagree with my quote, or with a question
i
> asked?
>
> ......burgess revisited indeed
>
> Andrew
>
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Subject: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

This proves Entropy is a right proper fuck-head.

Hardcore is the most general deffinition for a musical style in the world.
and it's first usage would probably be in reference to 70's punk rock, so if
you think gabber doesn't deserve to use the word hardcore, then neither does
breakbeat, happycore, or whatever else the UK pulled out of it's ass.


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows better....


> hey kids ... hehe i think you will get a real kick out of this.. this is
> something that was posted on the neproperhardcore@yahoo... which is a list
> started by some kids here in the infamous us of a... now i wouldnt post
> this because its pretty fukin retarded... but it involves all of us and i
> think its worth the read for the kiks... if you want i will give you the
> kids email or you can just send your responses to this nonsense straight
to
> the neproperhardkore@yahoo.com... this is a kid who spinns happy hardcore
> he goes by the name "entropy" and this is what he had to say unfortunately
> i did not save all of the messages in which he called gabber a white
> supremacy based music, and according to him ne thing thats not happy
> hardcore, nu energy or uk breakes is gabber... he said that hellz army is
> gabber.... actually that speedcore, terrorcore and others are gabber as
> well... he said that majestic records sell all gabber and they labeled it
> wrong as well as underground music is wrong with the labeling their
> muzik... so simon if you are reading it.. you better start rewriting your
> site cause you are wrong... now with out further ado i give you some of
the
> snippits...:
>
> "You are NOT involved in the Hardcore scene.  You make Gabber.
> It's pretty sad that you don't even know what you make.
> I've had enough of this.  It's useless to try to educate NYC Gabberheadz
on
> what Hardcore is, cause for some reason, they don't want to know.
> So be it.
> Get your "facts" straight, please.
> Stick around and learn about Hardcore, cause that's what this list is for.
> Take your stompy 909 distortion somewhere where someone gives a shit."
>
> "the FACT remains that some Gabber (what you
> mistakenly call "hardcore") is rooted in the German neo-nazi scene.
> It's a FACT."
>
> "And that is what this is.  Gabber isn't Hardcore however, so shut the
fuck
> up about it already."
>
> "By Proper Hardkore we mean Happy Hardkore, Old Skool UK Hardkore,
> Freeform, Trancecore, Darkstep, Techstep, and new and old skool jungle.
> Got it?
> Anything else, while it may be "welcome" on this list, IS Off-Topic, so
use
> an "OT" in your subject line, so those that don't want to hear about other
> things can filter those things
> out."
>
> "In Germany they have NO Hardcore Techno.  It's ALL Gabber......no
Hardcore
> at all."
>
> "Distorted 909's, and the use of just one emotion (anger) is what defines
> Gabber, for the most part.  The only time that changed for a bit, is when
> the Dutch started taking the
> UK's Hardcore influence in 1995, and were making "happy gabber" (which
both
> sides hated, for just reason)."
>
> "Sounds like anything from any of the Neophyte, Rob Gee, Hellz Army, Mark
N
> crew.....distorted 909s and the like.  Gabber bizness....."
>
> "I never said Gabber started in 1996.....I thought around 1992 or 1993,
but
> this PCP tune def can qualify as an early Gabber tune, in the same way
that
> Lennie de Ice's "We
> Are I.E." is an early Hardcore tune"
>
> "Nah mate, no pianos, no breakbeats, no clean kicks, no stabs, no vocal,
no
> basslines.......it's in no way a Hardcore tune."
>
> "You know, and I know, and EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about Gabber, knows
> that a lot of the early German Gabber
> scene had many roots in the Oi! scene and neo-nazism/xenophobia,
> etc......and a lot of it still does, unfortuneatly."
>
> "Oh, 1990......well, by 1990 ACTUAL Hardcore had already been throiugh
it's
> breakbeat acid house phase, and was onto it's belgian techno phase, and
> some tunes were
> coming out that were strictly breakbeat."
>
> "Your are right, and Lenne de Ice's "We Are I.E." tune (generally
> considered to be the first Hardcore track ever) is said to have been made
> as early as 1986...it didnt see a
> pressing until 1987 or 1988.  "The Horn Track" by Tim Taylor (one of the
> first strictly breakbeat hardcore tunes) was said to have been made in
> 1989, but was released in
> 1991."
>
> "Marc Acardipane is a Gabber producer.  Nothing I've heard from him has
any
> resembelance to Hardcore at all."
>
> "The only thing going on in 1986 was Garage and House, and then Freestyle
> and Hip-Hop.  Hardcore OR Gabber didn't exist in 1986.  The first Hardcore
> tune is generally
> considered to be "We Are I.E." by Lennie de Ice, and that was 1987, and
> that is BARELY Hardcore.....it laid the foundation for the Shut Up And
> Dance releases, and then
> the 90-91 Belgian sound, and then the 91-92 breakbeat sound, which is
> considered the golden years for Hardcore (91-93)."
>
> "The "upfront" top 15:
>
> 1) "Kids" - Kelli Ali (Jagz Kooner vocal remix)
> 2) "Hoarz In Effect" - DJ Mutley (HSR1)
> 3) "Overdrive" - Recursion (Recursion 1)
> 4) "Valley Of The Kings" - Dark Sounds Foundation (DSF001)
> 5) "Shout Now" - The Timespan (DJ Entropy's 2002 remix) (CD Dubplate)
> 6) "Looking For Meaning" - Hoverproject (CD Dubplate)
> 7) "The Reload" - Radiophonic Oddity (KFA)
> 8) "Drum N Bossa" - Carbuncle (ZYX)
> 9) "Red Alert" - Cativo (Position Chrome)
> 10) "The Way" - Future Primitive (KFA promo)
> 11) "Music Takes You" - Blame (John B's 2001 remix)
> 12) "Paint It Black" - DJ Venom (Retrotech 001)
> 13) "Insanity Clause B2" - Luna C (KFA)
> 14) "Greenways Trajectory" - Squarepusher (Warp)
> 15) "Resonance" - DLB * Penfold (Ectopic Beats 001)"
>
> "This isn't a Gabber list, stop sending links to Gabber please."
> (refering to the Majestic records link i sent him)
>
> "It's funny how much the truth hurts people.  These kids raised in the
> revisionist inaccurate thinking that DB and Dara and Frankie Bones taught
> NYC......I felt so bad for NYC
> at that time, but I could never get down ther eto help them out.  They had
> people calling Hardcore "Nasa Breaks", and people calling Gabber
"hardcore"
> and everything
> else......it was a truly fucked up situation.
> It's really sad that no one has the intellect in a city of 8 million
people
> to finally realize that they have all been wrong for like 10
> years.......hahahaha....."]
>
> Now im sorry that i put you through all this reading but i hope you had a
> good laugh... now if you would like to contact this kid just send him an
> email djentropy@mindspring.com, or like i said email
> NEProperHardkore@yahoogroups.com, heeh so i guess we are all wrong and
> stupid and we should all listen to the history of hardcore by dj
entropy...
> hehehe
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool) internet radio? 

OK what is the best way to set up internet radio? i know a few of you on 
here are veteran web DJs. my friend is just starting to mess around with 
Shoutcast, but there was only like 4->8 listeners.

i also wanted to know how you can get DJs in different places and countries 
broadcasting their live mixes on the one- the idea of course to get a 24-7 
thing going, ideally

any tips? cuz i am clueless when it comes to this broadcasting biz

cheers

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

4/1/2002 9:26:50 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:

>This proves Entropy is a right proper fuck-head.
>
>Hardcore is the most general deffinition for a musical style in the world.
>and it's first usage would probably be in reference to 70's punk rock, so if
>you think gabber doesn't deserve to use the word hardcore, then neither does
>breakbeat, happycore, or whatever else the UK pulled out of it's ass.

Oh jeesuz.

LOL

Gabba ain't Hardcore.  Get over it.

Good job insulting an entire country on here too, lol


------------
"I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled by The Prodigy, 1992

Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

by your deffinition, neither is any form of rave music. hardcore is just an
adjective. it can be used to describe ANYTHING.

----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
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Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who
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> 4/1/2002 9:26:50 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> >This proves Entropy is a right proper fuck-head.
> >
> >Hardcore is the most general deffinition for a musical style in the
world.
> >and it's first usage would probably be in reference to 70's punk rock, so
if
> >you think gabber doesn't deserve to use the word hardcore, then neither
does
> >breakbeat, happycore, or whatever else the UK pulled out of it's ass.
>
> Oh jeesuz.
>
> LOL
>
> Gabba ain't Hardcore.  Get over it.
>
> Good job insulting an entire country on here too, lol
>
>
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
by The Prodigy, 1992
>
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
ian@djentropy.com
>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
boston)
>       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
>   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
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>      Register to vote NOW:
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>          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
>         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
Educate the
>        narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine -
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>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

4/1/2002 9:30:33 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:

>by your deffinition, neither is any form of rave music. hardcore is just an
>adjective. it can be used to describe ANYTHING.

Hardcore isn't an adjective, it's a genre.

It may have BEEN an adjective at one point, but it quickly formed into a genre, and that's what THIS list is about, innit?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

then if you're talking about the GENRE hardcore, you mean the derivitive of
PUNK ROCK!!.

THIS list is titled OLDSCHOOL, because it has to do with everything
OLDSCHOOL, but based on most conversations, mostly oldschool rave music.
i've seen a number of posts about gabber music on here since i joined, and
nobody ever said "off topic" about it.

you imbecile.

----- Original Message -----
From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
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> 4/1/2002 9:30:33 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:
>
> >by your deffinition, neither is any form of rave music. hardcore is just
an
> >adjective. it can be used to describe ANYTHING.
>
> Hardcore isn't an adjective, it's a genre.
>
> It may have BEEN an adjective at one point, but it quickly formed into a
genre, and that's what THIS list is about, innit?
>
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
by The Prodigy, 1992
>
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
ian@djentropy.com
>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
boston)
>       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
>   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
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>      Register to vote NOW:
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>          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
>         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
Educate the
>        narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine -
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

4/1/2002 9:34:53 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:

>then if you're talking about the GENRE hardcore, you mean the derivitive of
>PUNK ROCK!!.

No, not Hardcore Rock, Hardcore Rave.

>THIS list is titled OLDSCHOOL, because it has to do with everything
>OLDSCHOOL, but based on most conversations, mostly oldschool rave music.
>i've seen a number of posts about gabber music on here since i joined, and
>nobody ever said "off topic" about it.

A lot of this list is off-topic, it always has been.  But the focus of this list, as we all determined a few months ago when I became list admin, was that it was started by tWiSt to be 
an old skool hardcore list, but open to other old school genres, as well as totally off-topic babble, from time to time as well.

>you imbecile.

I don't think calling the list admin names is a good way to stay on this list.

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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
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  Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

> >then if you're talking about the GENRE hardcore, you mean the derivitive
of
> >PUNK ROCK!!.
>
> No, not Hardcore Rock, Hardcore Rave.
>

at the time they didn't call it "hardcore rock" it was just hardcore. so
they had the name first.. breakbeat doesn't own the right to use the term
hardcore.. gabber is possibly more waranted to use it since it's much less
popular and only really dedicated people listen to it often.


> >THIS list is titled OLDSCHOOL, because it has to do with everything
> >OLDSCHOOL, but based on most conversations, mostly oldschool rave music.
> >i've seen a number of posts about gabber music on here since i joined,
and
> >nobody ever said "off topic" about it.
>
> A lot of this list is off-topic, it always has been.  But the focus of
this list, as we all determined a few months ago when I became list admin,
was that it was started by tWiSt to be
> an old skool hardcore list, but open to other old school genres, as well
as totally off-topic babble, from time to time as well.
>

well then i'll make it a point to post all my oldschool gabber questions on
this list as well. i know there's a few gabberheads on here. (smurf, myself)



> >you imbecile.
>
> I don't think calling the list admin names is a good way to stay on this
list.

i won't cry if you kick me.. all my posts lately seem to be responses to
retarded comments made by you. i'm sorry to the rest of the list, but things
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

4/1/2002 9:44:29 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:

>gabber is possibly more waranted to use it since it's much less
>popular 

That makes about ZERO sense.  Wow, it's so cool to be unpopular, I mean......"underground", lol

>and only really dedicated people listen to it often.

Hahaha, yeah, this list is full with people who don't REALLY care enough to be buying and trading and selling Hardcore ALLLLL day and ALLLL night, right, hahahaha.....


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Subject: (oldschool) dj entropy - fact or fiction?

i think i have trouble taking this guy seriously:

http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/supremebeings.jpg


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Subject: (oldschool) how much is this worth?

about how much does this normally go for?

ACEN - Close your Eyes Optikunfusion! mix

...the one with the beatles sample

anyone?

cheers

Liam



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) how much is this worth?

4/1/2002 10:04:37 PM, "Recoil >" <the_recoil@hotmail.com> wrote:

>about how much does this normally go for?
>
>ACEN - Close your Eyes Optikunfusion! mix
>
>...the one with the beatles sample

I think it fetched well over $150 USD on eBay last it was there.


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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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i think there's been about 20 appear in the last few weeks on ebay. i sold
one a month ago for £45, then next for £22 and the one last week for £16. i
think £15 is about the going rate. there were so many pressed and sold that
it's not that rare.

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> about how much does this normally go for?
>
> ACEN - Close your Eyes Optikunfusion! mix
>
> ...the one with the beatles sample
>
> anyone?
>
> cheers
>
> Liam
>
>
>
> <-Recoil
> hardcore * jungle * drum and bass
> Toronto, Canada
> ICQ: 98984143
> the_recoil@hotmail.com
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4/1/2002 10:08:42 PM, "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com> wrote:

>i think there's been about 20 appear in the last few weeks on ebay. i sold
>one a month ago for £45, then next for £22 and the one last week for £16. i
>think £15 is about the going rate. there were so many pressed and sold that
>it's not that rare.

Really?!

Whoa, I guess I wasnt keeping up on it!

It was a shitload a while back.......



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>
>
>> about how much does this normally go for?
>>
>> ACEN - Close your Eyes Optikunfusion! mix
>>
>> ...the one with the beatles sample
>>
>> anyone?
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> Liam
>>
>>
>>
>> <-Recoil
>> hardcore * jungle * drum and bass
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>> ICQ: 98984143
>> the_recoil@hotmail.com
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no way, you've gotta be joking!!! it's no longer april 1st

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> 4/1/2002 10:04:37 PM, "Recoil >" <the_recoil@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >about how much does this normally go for?
> >
> >ACEN - Close your Eyes Optikunfusion! mix
> >
> >...the one with the beatles sample
>
> I think it fetched well over $150 USD on eBay last it was there.
>
>
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
by The Prodigy, 1992
>
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
boston)
>       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
>   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

the gabber list was one of the most dimwit filled lists ive ever been on
before this one. i had to leave it despite my love of old gabber. i guess
that would explain why youre on it.

tom

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:26 PM
Subject: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who
knows better....


> This proves Entropy is a right proper fuck-head.
>
> Hardcore is the most general deffinition for a musical style in the world.
> and it's first usage would probably be in reference to 70's punk rock, so
if
> you think gabber doesn't deserve to use the word hardcore, then neither
does
> breakbeat, happycore, or whatever else the UK pulled out of it's ass.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Amok" <amok@gabber.org>
> To: <gabber@hyperreal.org>
> Cc: <gabber@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:11 PM
> Subject: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows better....
>
>
> > hey kids ... hehe i think you will get a real kick out of this.. this is
> > something that was posted on the neproperhardcore@yahoo... which is a
list
> > started by some kids here in the infamous us of a... now i wouldnt post
> > this because its pretty fukin retarded... but it involves all of us and
i
> > think its worth the read for the kiks... if you want i will give you the
> > kids email or you can just send your responses to this nonsense straight
> to
> > the neproperhardkore@yahoo.com... this is a kid who spinns happy
hardcore
> > he goes by the name "entropy" and this is what he had to say
unfortunately
> > i did not save all of the messages in which he called gabber a white
> > supremacy based music, and according to him ne thing thats not happy
> > hardcore, nu energy or uk breakes is gabber... he said that hellz army
is
> > gabber.... actually that speedcore, terrorcore and others are gabber as
> > well... he said that majestic records sell all gabber and they labeled
it
> > wrong as well as underground music is wrong with the labeling their
> > muzik... so simon if you are reading it.. you better start rewriting
your
> > site cause you are wrong... now with out further ado i give you some of
> the
> > snippits...:
> >
> > "You are NOT involved in the Hardcore scene.  You make Gabber.
> > It's pretty sad that you don't even know what you make.
> > I've had enough of this.  It's useless to try to educate NYC Gabberheadz
> on
> > what Hardcore is, cause for some reason, they don't want to know.
> > So be it.
> > Get your "facts" straight, please.
> > Stick around and learn about Hardcore, cause that's what this list is
for.
> > Take your stompy 909 distortion somewhere where someone gives a shit."
> >
> > "the FACT remains that some Gabber (what you
> > mistakenly call "hardcore") is rooted in the German neo-nazi scene.
> > It's a FACT."
> >
> > "And that is what this is.  Gabber isn't Hardcore however, so shut the
> fuck
> > up about it already."
> >
> > "By Proper Hardkore we mean Happy Hardkore, Old Skool UK Hardkore,
> > Freeform, Trancecore, Darkstep, Techstep, and new and old skool jungle.
> > Got it?
> > Anything else, while it may be "welcome" on this list, IS Off-Topic, so
> use
> > an "OT" in your subject line, so those that don't want to hear about
other
> > things can filter those things
> > out."
> >
> > "In Germany they have NO Hardcore Techno.  It's ALL Gabber......no
> Hardcore
> > at all."
> >
> > "Distorted 909's, and the use of just one emotion (anger) is what
defines
> > Gabber, for the most part.  The only time that changed for a bit, is
when
> > the Dutch started taking the
> > UK's Hardcore influence in 1995, and were making "happy gabber" (which
> both
> > sides hated, for just reason)."
> >
> > "Sounds like anything from any of the Neophyte, Rob Gee, Hellz Army,
Mark
> N
> > crew.....distorted 909s and the like.  Gabber bizness....."
> >
> > "I never said Gabber started in 1996.....I thought around 1992 or 1993,
> but
> > this PCP tune def can qualify as an early Gabber tune, in the same way
> that
> > Lennie de Ice's "We
> > Are I.E." is an early Hardcore tune"
> >
> > "Nah mate, no pianos, no breakbeats, no clean kicks, no stabs, no vocal,
> no
> > basslines.......it's in no way a Hardcore tune."
> >
> > "You know, and I know, and EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about Gabber,
knows
> > that a lot of the early German Gabber
> > scene had many roots in the Oi! scene and neo-nazism/xenophobia,
> > etc......and a lot of it still does, unfortuneatly."
> >
> > "Oh, 1990......well, by 1990 ACTUAL Hardcore had already been throiugh
> it's
> > breakbeat acid house phase, and was onto it's belgian techno phase, and
> > some tunes were
> > coming out that were strictly breakbeat."
> >
> > "Your are right, and Lenne de Ice's "We Are I.E." tune (generally
> > considered to be the first Hardcore track ever) is said to have been
made
> > as early as 1986...it didnt see a
> > pressing until 1987 or 1988.  "The Horn Track" by Tim Taylor (one of the
> > first strictly breakbeat hardcore tunes) was said to have been made in
> > 1989, but was released in
> > 1991."
> >
> > "Marc Acardipane is a Gabber producer.  Nothing I've heard from him has
> any
> > resembelance to Hardcore at all."
> >
> > "The only thing going on in 1986 was Garage and House, and then
Freestyle
> > and Hip-Hop.  Hardcore OR Gabber didn't exist in 1986.  The first
Hardcore
> > tune is generally
> > considered to be "We Are I.E." by Lennie de Ice, and that was 1987, and
> > that is BARELY Hardcore.....it laid the foundation for the Shut Up And
> > Dance releases, and then
> > the 90-91 Belgian sound, and then the 91-92 breakbeat sound, which is
> > considered the golden years for Hardcore (91-93)."
> >
> > "The "upfront" top 15:
> >
> > 1) "Kids" - Kelli Ali (Jagz Kooner vocal remix)
> > 2) "Hoarz In Effect" - DJ Mutley (HSR1)
> > 3) "Overdrive" - Recursion (Recursion 1)
> > 4) "Valley Of The Kings" - Dark Sounds Foundation (DSF001)
> > 5) "Shout Now" - The Timespan (DJ Entropy's 2002 remix) (CD Dubplate)
> > 6) "Looking For Meaning" - Hoverproject (CD Dubplate)
> > 7) "The Reload" - Radiophonic Oddity (KFA)
> > 8) "Drum N Bossa" - Carbuncle (ZYX)
> > 9) "Red Alert" - Cativo (Position Chrome)
> > 10) "The Way" - Future Primitive (KFA promo)
> > 11) "Music Takes You" - Blame (John B's 2001 remix)
> > 12) "Paint It Black" - DJ Venom (Retrotech 001)
> > 13) "Insanity Clause B2" - Luna C (KFA)
> > 14) "Greenways Trajectory" - Squarepusher (Warp)
> > 15) "Resonance" - DLB * Penfold (Ectopic Beats 001)"
> >
> > "This isn't a Gabber list, stop sending links to Gabber please."
> > (refering to the Majestic records link i sent him)
> >
> > "It's funny how much the truth hurts people.  These kids raised in the
> > revisionist inaccurate thinking that DB and Dara and Frankie Bones
taught
> > NYC......I felt so bad for NYC
> > at that time, but I could never get down ther eto help them out.  They
had
> > people calling Hardcore "Nasa Breaks", and people calling Gabber
> "hardcore"
> > and everything
> > else......it was a truly fucked up situation.
> > It's really sad that no one has the intellect in a city of 8 million
> people
> > to finally realize that they have all been wrong for like 10
> > years.......hahahaha....."]
> >
> > Now im sorry that i put you through all this reading but i hope you had
a
> > good laugh... now if you would like to contact this kid just send him an
> > email djentropy@mindspring.com, or like i said email
> > NEProperHardkore@yahoogroups.com, heeh so i guess we are all wrong and
> > stupid and we should all listen to the history of hardcore by dj
> entropy...
> > hehehe
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

instead of generalizing me, because i'm on the gabber list, why don't you
read entropy's quotes in my original post...

> Take your stompy 909 distortion somewhere where someone gives a shit."

> "the FACT remains that some Gabber (what you
> mistakenly call "hardcore") is rooted in the German neo-nazi scene.
> It's a FACT."

...
and so much more nonsense.
it boggles my mind why you continuously defend him.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <death@andythepooh.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who
knows better....


> the gabber list was one of the most dimwit filled lists ive ever been on
> before this one. i had to leave it despite my love of old gabber. i guess
> that would explain why youre on it.
>
> tom
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Thomas D. Cox, Jr. AKA Kevlar Moneyclips
> CEO http://www.steelcitysoul.com
> Record Reviews http://www.ukgarageworldwide.com/
> Blood-Clot DeeJay http://www.strikefm.co.uk/
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:26 PM
> Subject: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who
> knows better....
>
>
> > This proves Entropy is a right proper fuck-head.
> >
> > Hardcore is the most general deffinition for a musical style in the
world.
> > and it's first usage would probably be in reference to 70's punk rock,
so
> if
> > you think gabber doesn't deserve to use the word hardcore, then neither
> does
> > breakbeat, happycore, or whatever else the UK pulled out of it's ass.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Amok" <amok@gabber.org>
> > To: <gabber@hyperreal.org>
> > Cc: <gabber@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:11 PM
> > Subject: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows better....
> >
> >
> > > hey kids ... hehe i think you will get a real kick out of this.. this
is
> > > something that was posted on the neproperhardcore@yahoo... which is a
> list
> > > started by some kids here in the infamous us of a... now i wouldnt
post
> > > this because its pretty fukin retarded... but it involves all of us
and
> i
> > > think its worth the read for the kiks... if you want i will give you
the
> > > kids email or you can just send your responses to this nonsense
straight
> > to
> > > the neproperhardkore@yahoo.com... this is a kid who spinns happy
> hardcore
> > > he goes by the name "entropy" and this is what he had to say
> unfortunately
> > > i did not save all of the messages in which he called gabber a white
> > > supremacy based music, and according to him ne thing thats not happy
> > > hardcore, nu energy or uk breakes is gabber... he said that hellz army
> is
> > > gabber.... actually that speedcore, terrorcore and others are gabber
as
> > > well... he said that majestic records sell all gabber and they labeled
> it
> > > wrong as well as underground music is wrong with the labeling their
> > > muzik... so simon if you are reading it.. you better start rewriting
> your
> > > site cause you are wrong... now with out further ado i give you some
of
> > the
> > > snippits...:
> > >
> > > "You are NOT involved in the Hardcore scene.  You make Gabber.
> > > It's pretty sad that you don't even know what you make.
> > > I've had enough of this.  It's useless to try to educate NYC
Gabberheadz
> > on
> > > what Hardcore is, cause for some reason, they don't want to know.
> > > So be it.
> > > Get your "facts" straight, please.
> > > Stick around and learn about Hardcore, cause that's what this list is
> for.
> > > Take your stompy 909 distortion somewhere where someone gives a shit."
> > >
> > > "the FACT remains that some Gabber (what you
> > > mistakenly call "hardcore") is rooted in the German neo-nazi scene.
> > > It's a FACT."
> > >
> > > "And that is what this is.  Gabber isn't Hardcore however, so shut the
> > fuck
> > > up about it already."
> > >
> > > "By Proper Hardkore we mean Happy Hardkore, Old Skool UK Hardkore,
> > > Freeform, Trancecore, Darkstep, Techstep, and new and old skool
jungle.
> > > Got it?
> > > Anything else, while it may be "welcome" on this list, IS Off-Topic,
so
> > use
> > > an "OT" in your subject line, so those that don't want to hear about
> other
> > > things can filter those things
> > > out."
> > >
> > > "In Germany they have NO Hardcore Techno.  It's ALL Gabber......no
> > Hardcore
> > > at all."
> > >
> > > "Distorted 909's, and the use of just one emotion (anger) is what
> defines
> > > Gabber, for the most part.  The only time that changed for a bit, is
> when
> > > the Dutch started taking the
> > > UK's Hardcore influence in 1995, and were making "happy gabber" (which
> > both
> > > sides hated, for just reason)."
> > >
> > > "Sounds like anything from any of the Neophyte, Rob Gee, Hellz Army,
> Mark
> > N
> > > crew.....distorted 909s and the like.  Gabber bizness....."
> > >
> > > "I never said Gabber started in 1996.....I thought around 1992 or
1993,
> > but
> > > this PCP tune def can qualify as an early Gabber tune, in the same way
> > that
> > > Lennie de Ice's "We
> > > Are I.E." is an early Hardcore tune"
> > >
> > > "Nah mate, no pianos, no breakbeats, no clean kicks, no stabs, no
vocal,
> > no
> > > basslines.......it's in no way a Hardcore tune."
> > >
> > > "You know, and I know, and EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about Gabber,
> knows
> > > that a lot of the early German Gabber
> > > scene had many roots in the Oi! scene and neo-nazism/xenophobia,
> > > etc......and a lot of it still does, unfortuneatly."
> > >
> > > "Oh, 1990......well, by 1990 ACTUAL Hardcore had already been throiugh
> > it's
> > > breakbeat acid house phase, and was onto it's belgian techno phase,
and
> > > some tunes were
> > > coming out that were strictly breakbeat."
> > >
> > > "Your are right, and Lenne de Ice's "We Are I.E." tune (generally
> > > considered to be the first Hardcore track ever) is said to have been
> made
> > > as early as 1986...it didnt see a
> > > pressing until 1987 or 1988.  "The Horn Track" by Tim Taylor (one of
the
> > > first strictly breakbeat hardcore tunes) was said to have been made in
> > > 1989, but was released in
> > > 1991."
> > >
> > > "Marc Acardipane is a Gabber producer.  Nothing I've heard from him
has
> > any
> > > resembelance to Hardcore at all."
> > >
> > > "The only thing going on in 1986 was Garage and House, and then
> Freestyle
> > > and Hip-Hop.  Hardcore OR Gabber didn't exist in 1986.  The first
> Hardcore
> > > tune is generally
> > > considered to be "We Are I.E." by Lennie de Ice, and that was 1987,
and
> > > that is BARELY Hardcore.....it laid the foundation for the Shut Up And
> > > Dance releases, and then
> > > the 90-91 Belgian sound, and then the 91-92 breakbeat sound, which is
> > > considered the golden years for Hardcore (91-93)."
> > >
> > > "The "upfront" top 15:
> > >
> > > 1) "Kids" - Kelli Ali (Jagz Kooner vocal remix)
> > > 2) "Hoarz In Effect" - DJ Mutley (HSR1)
> > > 3) "Overdrive" - Recursion (Recursion 1)
> > > 4) "Valley Of The Kings" - Dark Sounds Foundation (DSF001)
> > > 5) "Shout Now" - The Timespan (DJ Entropy's 2002 remix) (CD Dubplate)
> > > 6) "Looking For Meaning" - Hoverproject (CD Dubplate)
> > > 7) "The Reload" - Radiophonic Oddity (KFA)
> > > 8) "Drum N Bossa" - Carbuncle (ZYX)
> > > 9) "Red Alert" - Cativo (Position Chrome)
> > > 10) "The Way" - Future Primitive (KFA promo)
> > > 11) "Music Takes You" - Blame (John B's 2001 remix)
> > > 12) "Paint It Black" - DJ Venom (Retrotech 001)
> > > 13) "Insanity Clause B2" - Luna C (KFA)
> > > 14) "Greenways Trajectory" - Squarepusher (Warp)
> > > 15) "Resonance" - DLB * Penfold (Ectopic Beats 001)"
> > >
> > > "This isn't a Gabber list, stop sending links to Gabber please."
> > > (refering to the Majestic records link i sent him)
> > >
> > > "It's funny how much the truth hurts people.  These kids raised in the
> > > revisionist inaccurate thinking that DB and Dara and Frankie Bones
> taught
> > > NYC......I felt so bad for NYC
> > > at that time, but I could never get down ther eto help them out.  They
> had
> > > people calling Hardcore "Nasa Breaks", and people calling Gabber
> > "hardcore"
> > > and everything
> > > else......it was a truly fucked up situation.
> > > It's really sad that no one has the intellect in a city of 8 million
> > people
> > > to finally realize that they have all been wrong for like 10
> > > years.......hahahaha....."]
> > >
> > > Now im sorry that i put you through all this reading but i hope you
had
> a
> > > good laugh... now if you would like to contact this kid just send him
an
> > > email djentropy@mindspring.com, or like i said email
> > > NEProperHardkore@yahoogroups.com, heeh so i guess we are all wrong and
> > > stupid and we should all listen to the history of hardcore by dj
> > entropy...
> > > hehehe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....

cummon guys put the toys back in the pram. there's no need to fall out over
a disagreement in music tastes. everyone is welcome to their opinion and
music taste can you just leave it as that?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
better....


> instead of generalizing me, because i'm on the gabber list, why don't you
> read entropy's quotes in my original post...
>
> > Take your stompy 909 distortion somewhere where someone gives a shit."
>
> > "the FACT remains that some Gabber (what you
> > mistakenly call "hardcore") is rooted in the German neo-nazi scene.
> > It's a FACT."
>
> ...
> and so much more nonsense.
> it boggles my mind why you continuously defend him.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas D. Cox, Jr." <death@andythepooh.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:48 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone
who
> knows better....
>
>
> > the gabber list was one of the most dimwit filled lists ive ever been on
> > before this one. i had to leave it despite my love of old gabber. i
guess
> > that would explain why youre on it.
> >
> > tom
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Thomas D. Cox, Jr. AKA Kevlar Moneyclips
> > CEO http://www.steelcitysoul.com
> > Record Reviews http://www.ukgarageworldwide.com/
> > Blood-Clot DeeJay http://www.strikefm.co.uk/
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 9:26 PM
> > Subject: (oldschool) Fw: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who
> > knows better....
> >
> >
> > > This proves Entropy is a right proper fuck-head.
> > >
> > > Hardcore is the most general deffinition for a musical style in the
> world.
> > > and it's first usage would probably be in reference to 70's punk rock,
> so
> > if
> > > you think gabber doesn't deserve to use the word hardcore, then
neither
> > does
> > > breakbeat, happycore, or whatever else the UK pulled out of it's ass.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Amok" <amok@gabber.org>
> > > To: <gabber@hyperreal.org>
> > > Cc: <gabber@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 8:11 PM
> > > Subject: [gabber] just a little lesson from someone who knows
better....
> > >
> > >
> > > > hey kids ... hehe i think you will get a real kick out of this..
this
> is
> > > > something that was posted on the neproperhardcore@yahoo... which is
a
> > list
> > > > started by some kids here in the infamous us of a... now i wouldnt
> post
> > > > this because its pretty fukin retarded... but it involves all of us
> and
> > i
> > > > think its worth the read for the kiks... if you want i will give you
> the
> > > > kids email or you can just send your responses to this nonsense
> straight
> > > to
> > > > the neproperhardkore@yahoo.com... this is a kid who spinns happy
> > hardcore
> > > > he goes by the name "entropy" and this is what he had to say
> > unfortunately
> > > > i did not save all of the messages in which he called gabber a white
> > > > supremacy based music, and according to him ne thing thats not happy
> > > > hardcore, nu energy or uk breakes is gabber... he said that hellz
army
> > is
> > > > gabber.... actually that speedcore, terrorcore and others are gabber
> as
> > > > well... he said that majestic records sell all gabber and they
labeled
> > it
> > > > wrong as well as underground music is wrong with the labeling their
> > > > muzik... so simon if you are reading it.. you better start rewriting
> > your
> > > > site cause you are wrong... now with out further ado i give you some
> of
> > > the
> > > > snippits...:
> > > >
> > > > "You are NOT involved in the Hardcore scene.  You make Gabber.
> > > > It's pretty sad that you don't even know what you make.
> > > > I've had enough of this.  It's useless to try to educate NYC
> Gabberheadz
> > > on
> > > > what Hardcore is, cause for some reason, they don't want to know.
> > > > So be it.
> > > > Get your "facts" straight, please.
> > > > Stick around and learn about Hardcore, cause that's what this list
is
> > for.
> > > > Take your stompy 909 distortion somewhere where someone gives a
shit."
> > > >
> > > > "the FACT remains that some Gabber (what you
> > > > mistakenly call "hardcore") is rooted in the German neo-nazi scene.
> > > > It's a FACT."
> > > >
> > > > "And that is what this is.  Gabber isn't Hardcore however, so shut
the
> > > fuck
> > > > up about it already."
> > > >
> > > > "By Proper Hardkore we mean Happy Hardkore, Old Skool UK Hardkore,
> > > > Freeform, Trancecore, Darkstep, Techstep, and new and old skool
> jungle.
> > > > Got it?
> > > > Anything else, while it may be "welcome" on this list, IS Off-Topic,
> so
> > > use
> > > > an "OT" in your subject line, so those that don't want to hear about
> > other
> > > > things can filter those things
> > > > out."
> > > >
> > > > "In Germany they have NO Hardcore Techno.  It's ALL Gabber......no
> > > Hardcore
> > > > at all."
> > > >
> > > > "Distorted 909's, and the use of just one emotion (anger) is what
> > defines
> > > > Gabber, for the most part.  The only time that changed for a bit, is
> > when
> > > > the Dutch started taking the
> > > > UK's Hardcore influence in 1995, and were making "happy gabber"
(which
> > > both
> > > > sides hated, for just reason)."
> > > >
> > > > "Sounds like anything from any of the Neophyte, Rob Gee, Hellz Army,
> > Mark
> > > N
> > > > crew.....distorted 909s and the like.  Gabber bizness....."
> > > >
> > > > "I never said Gabber started in 1996.....I thought around 1992 or
> 1993,
> > > but
> > > > this PCP tune def can qualify as an early Gabber tune, in the same
way
> > > that
> > > > Lennie de Ice's "We
> > > > Are I.E." is an early Hardcore tune"
> > > >
> > > > "Nah mate, no pianos, no breakbeats, no clean kicks, no stabs, no
> vocal,
> > > no
> > > > basslines.......it's in no way a Hardcore tune."
> > > >
> > > > "You know, and I know, and EVERYONE who knows ANYTHING about Gabber,
> > knows
> > > > that a lot of the early German Gabber
> > > > scene had many roots in the Oi! scene and neo-nazism/xenophobia,
> > > > etc......and a lot of it still does, unfortuneatly."
> > > >
> > > > "Oh, 1990......well, by 1990 ACTUAL Hardcore had already been
throiugh
> > > it's
> > > > breakbeat acid house phase, and was onto it's belgian techno phase,
> and
> > > > some tunes were
> > > > coming out that were strictly breakbeat."
> > > >
> > > > "Your are right, and Lenne de Ice's "We Are I.E." tune (generally
> > > > considered to be the first Hardcore track ever) is said to have been
> > made
> > > > as early as 1986...it didnt see a
> > > > pressing until 1987 or 1988.  "The Horn Track" by Tim Taylor (one of
> the
> > > > first strictly breakbeat hardcore tunes) was said to have been made
in
> > > > 1989, but was released in
> > > > 1991."
> > > >
> > > > "Marc Acardipane is a Gabber producer.  Nothing I've heard from him
> has
> > > any
> > > > resembelance to Hardcore at all."
> > > >
> > > > "The only thing going on in 1986 was Garage and House, and then
> > Freestyle
> > > > and Hip-Hop.  Hardcore OR Gabber didn't exist in 1986.  The first
> > Hardcore
> > > > tune is generally
> > > > considered to be "We Are I.E." by Lennie de Ice, and that was 1987,
> and
> > > > that is BARELY Hardcore.....it laid the foundation for the Shut Up
And
> > > > Dance releases, and then
> > > > the 90-91 Belgian sound, and then the 91-92 breakbeat sound, which
is
> > > > considered the golden years for Hardcore (91-93)."
> > > >
> > > > "The "upfront" top 15:
> > > >
> > > > 1) "Kids" - Kelli Ali (Jagz Kooner vocal remix)
> > > > 2) "Hoarz In Effect" - DJ Mutley (HSR1)
> > > > 3) "Overdrive" - Recursion (Recursion 1)
> > > > 4) "Valley Of The Kings" - Dark Sounds Foundation (DSF001)
> > > > 5) "Shout Now" - The Timespan (DJ Entropy's 2002 remix) (CD
Dubplate)
> > > > 6) "Looking For Meaning" - Hoverproject (CD Dubplate)
> > > > 7) "The Reload" - Radiophonic Oddity (KFA)
> > > > 8) "Drum N Bossa" - Carbuncle (ZYX)
> > > > 9) "Red Alert" - Cativo (Position Chrome)
> > > > 10) "The Way" - Future Primitive (KFA promo)
> > > > 11) "Music Takes You" - Blame (John B's 2001 remix)
> > > > 12) "Paint It Black" - DJ Venom (Retrotech 001)
> > > > 13) "Insanity Clause B2" - Luna C (KFA)
> > > > 14) "Greenways Trajectory" - Squarepusher (Warp)
> > > > 15) "Resonance" - DLB * Penfold (Ectopic Beats 001)"
> > > >
> > > > "This isn't a Gabber list, stop sending links to Gabber please."
> > > > (refering to the Majestic records link i sent him)
> > > >
> > > > "It's funny how much the truth hurts people.  These kids raised in
the
> > > > revisionist inaccurate thinking that DB and Dara and Frankie Bones
> > taught
> > > > NYC......I felt so bad for NYC
> > > > at that time, but I could never get down ther eto help them out.
They
> > had
> > > > people calling Hardcore "Nasa Breaks", and people calling Gabber
> > > "hardcore"
> > > > and everything
> > > > else......it was a truly fucked up situation.
> > > > It's really sad that no one has the intellect in a city of 8 million
> > > people
> > > > to finally realize that they have all been wrong for like 10
> > > > years.......hahahaha....."]
> > > >
> > > > Now im sorry that i put you through all this reading but i hope you
> had
> > a
> > > > good laugh... now if you would like to contact this kid just send
him
> an
> > > > email djentropy@mindspring.com, or like i said email
> > > > NEProperHardkore@yahoogroups.com, heeh so i guess we are all wrong
and
> > > > stupid and we should all listen to the history of hardcore by dj
> > > entropy...
> > > > hehehe
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette
	r....

to be honest, the UK, US, & Australia are the only places I've ever seen
that say "hardcore" and mean "old school rave/hhc/freeform/etc." In the
Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Italy, and the rest of mainland Europe,
"hardcore" means what we would call gabber. Ever been record shopping in
mainland Europe? Good luck finding hhc in the hardcore section. Also, it
should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter) definitely
have neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on racism in any way.
Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define that movement is
silly and unfair. After all, by the same standards, all Americans are
gun-toting militant nationalist reactionaries, and all ravers are 17 year
old drug addicted high school drop-outs destined to live with their parents
for eternity. 

chris

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better....


4/1/2002 9:44:29 PM, "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com> wrote:

>gabber is possibly more waranted to use it since it's much less
>popular 

That makes about ZERO sense.  Wow, it's so cool to be unpopular, I
mean......"underground", lol

>and only really dedicated people listen to it often.

Hahaha, yeah, this list is full with people who don't REALLY care enough to
be buying and trading and selling Hardcore ALLLLL day and ALLLL night,
right, hahahaha.....


------------
"I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
by The Prodigy, 1992

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) scott & keith- deranged

yeah its on NHS records. called this is derranged.


Hardcore - U Know the Score
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was there an earlier mix of this that was prior to the one on reinforced?

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Subject: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

What is this MP3 I have of "Dark Stranger" that isnt the famous one?

It's got this sample "Another terrifying intro"

and some Star Wars-esque samples.

It's pretty evil!

kinda been bored with darkside so much lately (I need some happiness!), but this tune is wikked.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

That will be the forgotten original mix. It was the B-side of subbase 27.

on 2/4/02 6:54 am, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:

> What is this MP3 I have of "Dark Stranger" that isnt the famous one?
> 
> It's got this sample "Another terrifying intro"
> 
> and some Star Wars-esque samples.
> 
> It's pretty evil!
> 
> kinda been bored with darkside so much lately (I need some happiness!), but
> this tune is wikked.
> 
> 
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled by
> The Prodigy, 1992
> 
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
>  (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
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> II
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> 
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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: Re: Vinyl Purism

From: DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>

"Ya know, if it was 1993 and CDRs, CD Turntables, MP3s, and Final Scratch 
didn't
exist, I would ALMOST agree with you.

However, why should the music being heard out at an event be only limited to 
ONE
medium?  And that medium is HIGHLY expensive, and a pain in the ass to deal
with, when
placed next to other mediums.

I'm not an advocate of crappy music, and of course, with an easier and 
cheaper
medium, you'll have much more crap out there, but you'll ALSO have much more
good stuff.

More music available and being played is ALWAYS a good thing"


This, I feel, is a completely fair and common sense point.....especially the 
last line. What you have to remember though is that this list revolves 
around a variety of people, from around the world, who have a very 
particular interest in a particular genre of music that was only ever 
released on vinyl. Thus the vast majority of peeps on this list are VERY 
biased to vinyl and have little interest in buying oldskool hardcore on 
other mediums.....primarily as its only ever been available on that genre.

Entropy's Top 15 list was NEW tunes, which he felt are suitable to list as 
they may interest people who like old skool hardcore. When it comes to new 
music then who is to say what is the correct medium.....I love Techno (for 
my sins) and Dave Clarke released a track a while back that was only 
available on MP3 download.....the vinyl was months later...that could have 
been listed in a "techno april top 15"...infact it probably was somewhere. I 
am VERY biased to vinyl but then we know why as I mentioned above.

Finally, I'm not trying to kiss anyones proverbial ass here but in most top 
10 DJ listings I ever see the DJ usually has his/her own latest creation/mix 
included.....mainly as the people who buy what they recommend may also like 
what he/she has released as it will be in a similar vein as the rest on that 
list.

I am ignorant of CD dubplates mind.....but then again I just buy old house 
and rave records. Which is nice.

lots of love

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Loads of spares to get rid of - top classics and obscure rarities

I'm after 2Xtreme, on Empire records, also Yolk-BishBosh-Sunny Side Up,
could you do a list of what is forsale.

Nice one

Duncan

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I've got another 200 odd records spare. Got some off a DJ Maniac who was
apparently quite close to the Subbase crew and DJ'ed at a few London
events.

Needless to say there are a few Subbase promos etc there - Far Out,
Sound if for the underground (and remixes), the austin EP (SUBBASE 18),
Racheal Wallace Beefed up mix.

Also shed loads of top notch underground rarities like Alpha Wave EP,
Origination Break Down, Sunny side up, terminate etc. There are loads.

If your salivating, the best thing to do is drop me a current wants list
as it will take a few days for me to list it all.

Btw I know what the tunes are worth out there and will be looking to get
good but fair prices.

Cheers


Steve
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http://deejayrollin.cjb.net

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just finishing off my site. send me your links we can exchange em.

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Subject: (oldschool) OT: Now I'm worried!

maybe I have gone too far but received my first private email from "Steve 
The Determist" earlier.....clearly not too pleased with me.
Oh dear....obviously panic stricken I phoned home but fortunately both cats 
were still alive and (still) shitting everywhere and there was no 
decapitated horse' head in my bed.....which was nice.

Chill out peeps.....please... and I promise I will make no references to 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) worries in the dance for sale

and if you want to hear it b4 u nuy it, I have an MP3 on my site

http://deejayrollin.cjb.net

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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=854748840


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT: Now I'm worried!

on 2/4/02 4:26 PM, andy gugs at g_u_g_s@hotmail.com wrote:

> maybe I have gone too far but received my first private email from "Steve
> The Determist" earlier.....clearly not too pleased with me.
> Oh dear....obviously panic stricken I phoned home but fortunately both cats
> were still alive and (still) shitting everywhere and there was no
> decapitated horse' head in my bed.....which was nice.
> 
> Chill out peeps.....please... and I promise I will make no references to
> your good name again Steve.
> 
> andrew

So how is it standing behind the curtains Steve? I was wondering who was
making all those whoooooo-ooooooooo sounds back there.

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Subject: (oldschool) Subject: (oldschool) how much is this worth?



>about how much does this normally go for?
>
>ACEN - Close your Eyes Optikunfusion! mix
>
>...the one with the beatles sample

ebay aside you be looking to pay around 25quid for a decent copy of that 
fine fine tune.

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I probably have a copy. Was it the big Red one? I should have a copy somewhere


> Don't suppose anyone has a flyer for the Resonance event I played at do
>they?  May 01-ish I think it was, with Slipmatt headlining.  I never got one
>so I wouldn't mind getting a scan from someone if anyone has one, just
>sorting my site out again....
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>i really can't hear enough of this track. i think i've listened to it 150
times today!!!!!!
>i think i might even like it more than any of the remixes.

It pisses all over the remixes and always has IMO ;o)

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Subject: (oldschool) Tunes for trade

* = Brand new, never played, not even any finger prints!

Manix - Feel real good (Remix) - Reinforced *
QBass - Funky hardcore (Hype remix) - Subbase *
Various - Enforcers 6 & 7 - Reinforced *
D'Cruze - World within a world - Subbase *
Rebel MC - Humanity/Cant get no sleep - Big Life

Mail me private if any take your fancy.

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Sorted now and up on the site, but cheers :)

Robin
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>
> I probably have a copy. Was it the big Red one? I should have a copy
somewhere
>
>
> > Don't suppose anyone has a flyer for the Resonance event I played at do
> >they?  May 01-ish I think it was, with Slipmatt headlining.  I never got
one
> >so I wouldn't mind getting a scan from someone if anyone has one, just
> >sorting my site out again....
> >
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> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993


ive heard some djs say he's 'done a lot for the scene' or whatever,

even if this is true he should still not be allowed within 10 miles of a 
microphone

majika, go home eh?

dave t

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>Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 18:21:28 -0500
>
>is there anyone out there that likes magika??? he ruins all my tapes hes
>on
>
>DJ Moody wrote:
> >
> > Yeah that set is one of my all time favourites. When I tracklisted it I
> > realised how lazy SS had been with it. Loads of Formation of course a 
>few
> > Basement and plays the A and B side of quite a few - must have only had 
>10
> > tunes in his bag that night -lol - but the set is still a blinder.
> >
> > As for Magika I've heard the set so many times it's kinda starting to 
>fit
> > now in a strange way but yeah the Mc'ing is shite as it nearly always 
>is.
> >
> > Steve
> > aka DJ Moody
> > www.breakpirates.com
> > www.oldskoolmadness.com
> > Monday Madness - Live Oldskool 9pm till late
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt B [mailto:matt_bassline@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 01 April 2002 15:07
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: (oldschool) DJ SS @ QUEST - 1993
> >
> > Just been having a good listen to the SS set on your
> > Oldskool Madness site Steve. Very, very nice selection
> > of tunes!
> >
> > .. but fuck me MC Magika really stoops to a new low on
> > that one. Fuckin hell - if I see him again I'm gonna
> > nut him! I swear. The guy is a premium dick! LOL
> >
> > How many times does he sing 'rockin with the House
> > Crew bass' does someone wanna tell him it's DJ SS
> > playing not the House Crew. heh heh
> >
> > Rant over. Wicked set all the same, nice one Steve.
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) New MP3 of the month on Kikit

Wicked tune as ever ;o)

Droppin Science Vol 1

Grab it while you can.......

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9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in =
hardcore jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's =
"thugged out bitch"

it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly =
disgustingly the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd =
just made a tune with renegade which sounded pretty good.

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Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it seems:-)))))))))))))))


> 9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in hardcore jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's "thugged out bitch"
>
>it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly disgustingly the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd just made a tune with renegade which sounded pretty good.



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> Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it
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WHAT?!?!!!

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I have heard about this. Where can I hear a clip?


on 5/3/02 1:09 pm, lex at lex21@btinternet.com wrote:

> 9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in hardcore
> jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's "thugged out bitch"
> 
> it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly disgustingly
> the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd just made a tune with
> renegade which sounded pretty good.
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> Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it
seems:-)))))))))))))))

I never understand statements like this, IMO if you have been listening to
it since 92, it never went away. So how can it come back?!

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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> > Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it
> seems:-)))))))))))))))
>
> I never understand statements like this, IMO if you have been listening to
> it since 92, it never went away. So how can it come back?!

As most people have stopped producing it, it "went away", and now people
are returning to making the same sounds, or at least sounds influenced by
the old style.  Simple enough I think!

Take care,
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> As most people have stopped producing it, it "went away", and now people
> are returning to making the same sounds, or at least sounds influenced by
> the old style.  Simple enough I think!

Just cause people stopped making it, it doesnt mean it went away.
Its the PEOPLE that went away, not the music.

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http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm


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I have heard about this. Where can I hear a clip?


on 5/3/02 1:09 pm, lex at lex21@btinternet.com wrote:

> 9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in=20
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> "thugged out bitch"
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> just made a tune with renegade which sounded pretty good.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> > As most people have stopped producing it, it "went away", and now people
> > are returning to making the same sounds, or at least sounds influenced by
> > the old style.  Simple enough I think!
>
> Just cause people stopped making it, it doesnt mean it went away.
> Its the PEOPLE that went away, not the music.

No, obviously the music that had been produced didn't go anywhere...
but you know what we're trying to say, don't be so daft.

Take care,
- Chris


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Subject: (oldschool) 12 Taperips To Play/Download

allright guys just uploaded another 12 Taperips to my website
<A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/music4/oldskoolrave">
www.angelfire.com/music4/oldskoolrave</A>
Micky Finn Eclipse 1990
Doc Scott Amnesia house 1991
Ellis Dee Fantazia Summertime
Easygroove Fantazia Summertime
Ellis Dee fantazia One Step Beyond
DJ Dream Fantazia One Step Beyond
Easygroove Fantazia One Step Beyond
Top Buzz Starlight Judgement Day
Easygroove Fantazia Littlecote House Nye 92
Carl Cox Universe Tribal Gathering
Ratty Universe Tribal Gathering
Ckeck them out...
ps Can Anyone Host any mp3 Taperips For Me?????
Peace
ian hamer..

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm

You got to give it to Dillinja, he can consistantly churn out totally shit!

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> No, obviously the music that had been produced didn't go anywhere...
> but you know what we're trying to say, don't be so daft.


There you go, in your own words!
"did'nt go anywhere"

So how can it come back? LOL

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Yeah, bring on the jungle tekno revival! It's time for some dark
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On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> > No, obviously the music that had been produced didn't go anywhere...
> > but you know what we're trying to say, don't be so daft.
>
> There you go, in your own words!
> "did'nt go anywhere"
>
> So how can it come back? LOL

You really must be taking the piss.

Jungle techno produced back in the day?  Gone nowhere.  True.  People who
loved the music (like me) still listened to it, DJs at underground raves
spun it...

But a lack of new music made in the style made it disappear from the
limelight and, instead, gave way to other sounds (such as the modern shit
2-step drum and bass).  Now if more people are producing stuff that sounds
like jungle techno, there's a greater chance for it to recapture said
limelight.

Now, I really appreciate what you're trying to say, in other words,
"for the hardcore massive it never went anywhere" but if you ask your
average drum and bass head "hey, ever hear some jungle techno?" they'd be
"what?"

Have I gotten through to you?

Take care,
- Chris


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??????????


> > Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it
>seems:-)))))))))))))))
>
>I never understand statements like this, IMO if you have been listening to
>it since 92, it never went away. So how can it come back?!
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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> Now, I really appreciate what you're trying to say, in other words,
> "for the hardcore massive it never went anywhere" but if you ask your
> average drum and bass head "hey, ever hear some jungle techno?" they'd be
> "what?"
>
> Have I gotten through to you?

You have to remember there are loads of people that listen to the same music
but call it something totally different. Alot of that is regionally based.
Eg. I never called 92 hardcore "oldskool" till i got on this list.

Just cause something hasnt been on the front rank, it doesnt mean its not
been there atall!

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> That will be the forgotten original mix. It was the B-side of subbase 27.

Pah, I never forgot about Dre!!! I'm always bangin on about that old
chestnut, "Real Hardcore" is an utter tune too. This 12" is like a darkside
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> > Now, I really appreciate what you're trying to say, in other words,
> > "for the hardcore massive it never went anywhere" but if you ask your
> > average drum and bass head "hey, ever hear some jungle techno?" they'd be
> > "what?"
> >
> > Have I gotten through to you?
>
> You have to remember there are loads of people that listen to the same music
> but call it something totally different. Alot of that is regionally based.
> Eg. I never called 92 hardcore "oldskool" till i got on this list.
>
> Just cause something hasnt been on the front rank, it doesnt mean its
> not been there atall!

Okay, but can you name some jungle techno (or whatever you will call
it) tunes made between 1996-2000?

...

See my point?

Take care,
- Chris


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> Okay, but can you name some jungle techno (or whatever you will call
> it) tunes made between 1996-2000?

Yeah, the first few releases on Cylon were 100% old jungle techno style ;op

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

It is one of the best things that Subbase put out.
I reckon the original of DS shits from a great height on all the pants
boring remixes!


> 
> Pah, I never forgot about Dre!!! I'm always bangin on about that old
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> Hyper on Experience, and the cover is bad too.
> 
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> > Okay, but can you name some jungle techno (or whatever you will call
> > it) tunes made between 1996-2000?
>
> Yeah, the first few releases on Cylon were 100% old jungle techno style
> ;op

Oh, good point... I do like Dylan's sound... touche!

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> Oh, good point... I do like Dylan's sound... touche!

Thats that one settled then LOL ;o)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

if u want to hear it the only place i can find it is at the end of Andy c
set from the republic in Sheffield. go to www.breakbeat.co.uk and its on he
main page.


also check the new mix of LK with MC stamina's vocal....wicked stuff.
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> On Tue, 2 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:
> > > Okay, but can you name some jungle techno (or whatever you will call
> > > it) tunes made between 1996-2000?
> >
> > Yeah, the first few releases on Cylon were 100% old jungle techno style
> > ;op
>
> Oh, good point... I do like Dylan's sound... touche!
>
> Take care,
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DJ Destiny wrote:

> Yeah, the first few releases on Cylon were 100% old jungle techno style ;op

Yeah, Cylon is an absolutely wicked label IMO.
Personally I'd say stuff like the Cylon releases and a lot of the stuff
on Biotic, X-Factor, Renegade Hardware, Spektrum Audio and labels like
that share far more elements of 93 jungle tekno/dark hardcore than this
dillinja tune - but there you go...

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im interested in buying the 2 magical tunes (remix records 2 and 3) dont 
really have anything to trade though! what you reckon?


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

> Personally I'd say stuff like the Cylon releases and a lot of the stuff
> on Biotic, X-Factor, Renegade Hardware, Spektrum Audio and labels like
> that share far more elements of 93 jungle tekno/dark hardcore than this
> dillinja tune - but there you go...

I agree with that, personally speaking I didnt detect anything remotely
"jungle techno" in that Dillinja tune.

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on 4/2/02 4:38 AM, DJ Destiny at djdestiny@kikit.org stated:

> 
> It pisses all over the remixes and always has IMO ;o)
> 

Does anyone have the Foul Play remix part 2 of this?? Should be a 10"....
yeah the original is the ultimate, but i need this mix!!


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> Does anyone have the Foul Play remix part 2 of this?? Should be a 10"....
> yeah the original is the ultimate, but i need this mix!!

I had it and got rid of it, both mixes are crap :(

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Eruption 104FM- Guest Show- Red Alert & Mike Slammer!

did ne1 record it then? if they did, id really like a copy! 
please?...........


>From: "Robert Rogers" <anybodygotanybeers@hotmail.com>
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>
>
>aiight,
>
>yep yep, theres an eruption 104 guest show tonight with red alert n mike
>slammer, only thing is.... i gotta go to me bro's for easter n all that who
>har, etc, so ill be out of range :=(
>
>any chance any local people (no league of gentlemen pun intended!)
>could record it for me...
>
>i know i could do timer record, but i dunno when its on, the site sais 6-8
>but the sets on the radio atm keep saying 8-10, no matter which there bound
>to be on late and go on later,
>
>so could anyone sort this for me?
>(if ya can ill send ya a darkside tape or wot eva)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

why be so difficult. u know what we mean...

jungle techno is being made again.
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> > Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it
> seems:-)))))))))))))))
>
> I never understand statements like this, IMO if you have been listening to
> it since 92, it never went away. So how can it come back?!
>
> Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

destiny, no disrespect mate, but your comments make u sound like a right
smart arse.....u know exactly what we are trying to say
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> > As most people have stopped producing it, it "went away", and now people
> > are returning to making the same sounds, or at least sounds influenced
by
> > the old style.  Simple enough I think!
>
> Just cause people stopped making it, it doesnt mean it went away.
> Its the PEOPLE that went away, not the music.
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destiny if u come telepathy on Sunday and heard this dropped 4 times along
with some other dillinja tunes and felt the vibe u wouldn't be saying that
its shit.
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> http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm
>
> You got to give it to Dillinja, he can consistantly churn out totally
shit!
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on 4/2/02 8:56 AM, DJ Destiny at djdestiny@kikit.org stated:

> 
> I had it and got rid of it, both mixes are crap :(

nah, one of em isn't crap.  ;)

let me know if you ever come across this again.. thanks



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>destiny, no disrespect mate, but your comments make u sound like a right
>smart arse.....u know exactly what we are trying to say

And you know what Im trying to say too.
I certainly wasnt trying to be a smart arse either. I was mearly observing
that if people have been listening to a genre of music for the last ten
years that it obviously hasnt gone away. Is that really that hard to
understand?

> destiny if u come telepathy on Sunday and heard this dropped 4 times along
> with some other dillinja tunes and felt the vibe u wouldn't be saying that
> its shit.

I have no intention of going to an event where every dj is playing the same
tunes over and over. How boring!

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Subject: (oldschool) Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday

Tim

sorry bout delay in you getting your records, its cos the HALIFAX ARE SO 
FUCKING GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    they closed my wrong account, and then sent me 
the new bank cards for the 1 they had closed. Iv been in 6 times, and they 
still havent managed to give me the right card yet!

If anyone works for the halifax then, i wont apologise cos you are a bunch 
of fucking useless tossers who need to sort your lives out!!!! Why are th 
girls at reception alsways so fucking dim? you explain it to them 5 times, 
and then they tell you the manager is off so theyl do it themselves, which 
they then do wrong!

ARSEHOLES!!!!!!!!!!


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>Subject: Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:10:17 BST
>
>gabber can be classed as hardcore. Why not? There are many people who 
>consider it proper hardcore opposed to the breakbeat sound. Heh I don't 
>want to get myself into a hardcore- official definition argument tho;-)
>
>
> > iv hear them play techno a couple of times, but never hardcore, unless 
>theyv
> >just classed gabba as hardcore?
> >
> >
> >From: chris shaw <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
> >Reply-To: happy@topica.com
> >To: oldskool <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, happy <happy@topica.com>
> >Subject: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday
> >Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 12:24:34 +0100
> >
> >Anyone up for going to this? (details below)
> >Also, has anyone on here ever heard Scorpio, Ribbz or Producer play
> >oldskool before? Any idea if they'll be playing oldskool hardcore or
> >oldskool gabber or what? If not I'll just have to find out when I get
> >there innit... :)
> >
> >Chris
> >
> >
> >Total Recall @ The Dance Academy, Union Street, Plymouth, England
> >10:00pm - 5:00am
> >
> >Arena 1 - Old Skool:
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> >PRODUCER
> >SCORPIO
> >DESTRUCTION
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> >APACHE
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> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday

LOL=20hahaha=20bloody=20banks,=20heh=20but=20the=20girls=20on=20reception=20can=20be=20bribed;-)



>=20Tim
>
>sorry=20bout=20delay=20in=20you=20getting=20your=20records,=20its=20cos=20the=20HALIFAX=20ARE=20SO=20
>FUCKING=20GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20=20=20=20they=20closed=20my=20wrong=20account,=20and=20then=20sent=20me=20
>the=20new=20bank=20cards=20for=20the=201=20they=20had=20closed.=20Iv=20been=20in=206=20times,=20and=20they=20
>still=20havent=20managed=20to=20give=20me=20the=20right=20card=20yet!
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>If=20anyone=20works=20for=20the=20halifax=20then,=20i=20wont=20apologise=20cos=20you=20are=20a=20bunch=20
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>they=20then=20do=20wrong!
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>ARSEHOLES!!!!!!!!!!
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>Date:=20Tue,=202=20Apr=202002=2016:10:17=20BST
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>gabber=20can=20be=20classed=20as=20hardcore.=20Why=20not=3F=20There=20are=20many=20people=20who=20
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>=20>Anyone=20up=20for=20going=20to=20this=3F=20(details=20below)
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>=20>Total=20Recall=20@=20The=20Dance=20Academy,=20Union=20Street,=20Plymouth,=20England
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday

if i was gonna bribe them, it wouldnt be for that! ;o)


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>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth 
>this friday
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:32:01 BST
>
>LOL hahaha bloody banks, heh but the girls on reception can be bribed;-)
>
>
>
> > Tim
> >
> >sorry bout delay in you getting your records, its cos the HALIFAX ARE SO
> >FUCKING GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    they closed my wrong account, and then sent 
>me
> >the new bank cards for the 1 they had closed. Iv been in 6 times, and 
>they
> >still havent managed to give me the right card yet!
> >
> >If anyone works for the halifax then, i wont apologise cos you are a 
>bunch
> >of fucking useless tossers who need to sort your lives out!!!! Why are th
> >girls at reception alsways so fucking dim? you explain it to them 5 
>times,
> >and then they tell you the manager is off so theyl do it themselves, 
>which
> >they then do wrong!
> >
> >ARSEHOLES!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> >
> >From: djhb@talk21.com
> >Reply-To: happy@topica.com
> >To: happy@topica.com
> >Subject: Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday
> >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:10:17 BST
> >
> >gabber can be classed as hardcore. Why not? There are many people who
> >consider it proper hardcore opposed to the breakbeat sound. Heh I don't
> >want to get myself into a hardcore- official definition argument tho;-)
> >
> >
> > > iv hear them play techno a couple of times, but never hardcore, unless
> >theyv
> > >just classed gabba as hardcore?
> > >
> > >
> > >From: chris shaw <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
> > >Reply-To: happy@topica.com
> > >To: oldskool <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, happy <happy@topica.com>
> > >Subject: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday
> > >Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 12:24:34 +0100
> > >
> > >Anyone up for going to this? (details below)
> > >Also, has anyone on here ever heard Scorpio, Ribbz or Producer play
> > >oldskool before? Any idea if they'll be playing oldskool hardcore or
> > >oldskool gabber or what? If not I'll just have to find out when I get
> > >there innit... :)
> > >
> > >Chris
> > >
> > >
> > >Total Recall @ The Dance Academy, Union Street, Plymouth, England
> > >10:00pm - 5:00am
> > >
> > >Arena 1 - Old Skool:
> > >SY
> > >PRODUCER
> > >SCORPIO
> > >DESTRUCTION
> > >RIBBZ
> > >APACHE
> > >MUTLEY
> > >
> > >Arena 2 - North / Hindsight:
> > >VORTEX
> > >SHARKEY
> > >NICK THE KID
> > >DAVE ROWLANZ
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> > >
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> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Re: [Happy] oldskool and hard dance in plymouth this friday

LOL=20like=20yer=20thinking


>=20if=20i=20was=20gonna=20bribe=20them,=20it=20wouldnt=20be=20for=20that!=20;o)
>
>
>From:=20djhb@talk21.com
>Reply-To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To:=20oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject:=20Re:=20(oldschool)=20Re:=20[Happy]=20oldskool=20and=20hard=20dance=20in=20plymouth=20
>this=20friday
>Date:=20Tue,=202=20Apr=202002=2016:32:01=20BST
>
>LOL=20hahaha=20bloody=20banks,=20heh=20but=20the=20girls=20on=20reception=20can=20be=20bribed;-)
>
>
>
>=20>=20Tim
>=20>
>=20>sorry=20bout=20delay=20in=20you=20getting=20your=20records,=20its=20cos=20the=20HALIFAX=20ARE=20SO
>=20>FUCKING=20GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!=20=20=20=20they=20closed=20my=20wrong=20account,=20and=20then=20sent=20
>me
>=20>the=20new=20bank=20cards=20for=20the=201=20they=20had=20closed.=20Iv=20been=20in=206=20times,=20and=20
>they
>=20>still=20havent=20managed=20to=20give=20me=20the=20right=20card=20yet!
>=20>
>=20>If=20anyone=20works=20for=20the=20halifax=20then,=20i=20wont=20apologise=20cos=20you=20are=20a=20
>bunch
>=20>of=20fucking=20useless=20tossers=20who=20need=20to=20sort=20your=20lives=20out!!!!=20Why=20are=20th
>=20>girls=20at=20reception=20alsways=20so=20fucking=20dim=3F=20you=20explain=20it=20to=20them=205=20
>times,
>=20>and=20then=20they=20tell=20you=20the=20manager=20is=20off=20so=20theyl=20do=20it=20themselves,=20
>which
>=20>they=20then=20do=20wrong!
>=20>
>=20>ARSEHOLES!!!!!!!!!!
>=20>
>=20>
>=20>From:=20djhb@talk21.com
>=20>Reply-To:=20happy@topica.com
>=20>To:=20happy@topica.com
>=20>Subject:=20Re:=20[Happy]=20oldskool=20and=20hard=20dance=20in=20plymouth=20this=20friday
>=20>Date:=20Tue,=202=20Apr=202002=2016:10:17=20BST
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>=20>gabber=20can=20be=20classed=20as=20hardcore.=20Why=20not=3F=20There=20are=20many=20people=20who
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>=20>
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>=20>=20>
>=20>=20>From:=20chris=20shaw=20<ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
>=20>=20>Reply-To:=20happy@topica.com
>=20>=20>To:=20oldskool=20<oldschool@hyperreal.org>,=20happy=20<happy@topica.com>
>=20>=20>Subject:=20[Happy]=20oldskool=20and=20hard=20dance=20in=20plymouth=20this=20friday
>=20>=20>Date:=20Mon,=2001=20Apr=202002=2012:24:34=20+0100
>=20>=20>
>=20>=20>Anyone=20up=20for=20going=20to=20this=3F=20(details=20below)
>=20>=20>Also,=20has=20anyone=20on=20here=20ever=20heard=20Scorpio,=20Ribbz=20or=20Producer=20play
>=20>=20>oldskool=20before=3F=20Any=20idea=20if=20they'll=20be=20playing=20oldskool=20hardcore=20or
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>=20>=20>Chris
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Subject: (oldschool) IMO DEBATE

i have just found out that someone on this list gave IMO all of our email 
addresses because we were involved in "discussions" about bootlegs.

This person was also the one person to stick up for them during the whole 
topic.

Personally i am well pissed at this and i want to kick this guys ass.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) scott & keith- deranged

never heard of NHS recs. is it rare? 

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> yeah its on NHS records. called this is derranged.
> 
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> Hardcore - U Know the Score
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> was there an earlier mix of this that was prior to the one on reinforced?
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There are a few bits on NHS that were re-done and put on Reinforced.
They were all doc scott related items.

on 2/4/02 4:11 pm, DJ AZTEK at dj_aztek@btinternet.com wrote:

> never heard of NHS recs. is it rare? 


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Squash by Total Science is the Jungle Techno tune for me at
the mo. 

It's funny though, coz I'd say that Something New Pt1 by
Andy C in 1992 is still a more powerful tune in terms of
pure fuck-off bass energy than any of today's dnb. You can't
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i totally agree. there's no point trying to compare.

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> Squash by Total Science is the Jungle Techno tune for me at
> the mo. 
> 
> It's funny though, coz I'd say that Something New Pt1 by
> Andy C in 1992 is still a more powerful tune in terms of
> pure fuck-off bass energy than any of today's dnb. You can't
> beat the originals!
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It sounds OK. Not as good as Grimey, but I still wouldn't
buy either tune. The only Dillinja tune I knowingly own is
Gangsta by Trinity, which is a classic. 

Say what you like about Dillinja's tunes, but his VALVE
soundsystem is simply breathtaking.

D

 --- lex <lex21@btinternet.com> wrote: > destiny if u come
telepathy on Sunday and heard this
> dropped 4 times along
> with some other dillinja tunes and felt the vibe u
> wouldn't be saying that
> its shit.
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> This person was also the one person to stick up for them during the whole 
> topic.

That rules me out then ;o) LOL

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> i have just found out that someone on this list gave IMO all of our email
> addresses because we were involved in "discussions" about bootlegs.
>=20
> This person was also the one person to stick up for them during the whole
> topic.
>=20
> Personally i am well pissed at this and i want to kick this guys ass.
>=20
> He has been posting on here today as well, this should give you all an
> indication as to who this total dick is.
>=20

yeah, i know who it is, but who are u?

ain't seen that addy b4

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I have no clue to even say to this...im just way to fucking curious about it 
now....i didnt think it has been that long since the 4/4 KickDrum was in 
effect i know its something thats been missing but damn




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>9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in hardcore 
>jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's "thugged out 
>bitch"
>
>it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly disgustingly 
>the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd just made a tune 
>with renegade which sounded pretty good.




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Subject: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden


how much is this worth?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

sorry guys i don't like it. just my opinion so don't berrate me.

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http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm


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I have heard about this. Where can I hear a clip?


on 5/3/02 1:09 pm, lex at lex21@btinternet.com wrote:

> 9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in 
> hardcore jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's 
> "thugged out bitch"
> 
> it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly 
> disgustingly the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd 
> just made a tune with renegade which sounded pretty good.
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Subject: (oldschool) The IMO debate

i have just found out that someone on this list forwarded all email 
addresses of people who were involved in recent discussions about bootlegs 
to IMO.
This person was the only person to defend IMO during the debate as well.
I am not going to mention any names but this person knows who he is and i 
reckon most of you lot will soon as well.
This prick is so far up IMO's ass he may as well work for them.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IMO DEBATE

so that explains why some of you got random e-mails from IMO then. LOL
cyberworld is very funny

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> i have just found out that someone on this list gave IMO all of our email
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

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> how much is this worth?

I got one off eBay for £16 - wunnit off you, Aztek? One of the tracks had a
loads of shit on it making it sound shite, but it was the crappwst track so
I couldn't give a fudge. I'mn sure I remember seeing one on 2x12" back in
the day but I've only seen single 12" recently, am I going mad? Wicked EP
btw, well worth hunting dahn....

ta ta!

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Subject: (oldschool) Speaking of Jungle Tekno...

Finally got Here Comes the Drumz original in the post today, cheers Purity!
Another clasic off the wants list...

Plus DJ Krane's mum sent me something rather saucy.... Ruff with the
Smooth - Art of Intelligence/ Sounds Superior (tune!). Ta Mrs. Krane!!!!

cheers

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....



>to be honest, the UK, US, & Australia are the only places I've ever >seen 
>that say "hardcore" and mean "old school rave/hhc/freeform/etc."

GENERLIZATION MUCH!!!

>In the Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Italy, and the rest of mainland 
> >Europe,"hardcore" means what we would call gabber. Ever been record 
> >shopping in mainland Europe? Good luck finding hhc in the hardcore 
> >section.

THAT IS SOOOOOOOOO TRU THE COUNTLESS TIMES I HAVE BEEN IN THE NEATHERLANDS 
IT IS WORSE PLACE FOR FINDING GOOD GABBER THERE IT IS LIKE HAVEING A TEETH 
PULLED WITH NO NOVICANE ITS NOT FUN...UNTIL YOU GET THAT PEICE OF GOLD THAT 
YOU WANTED


>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter) 
> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on racism 
>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define that 
>movement is silly and unfair.

Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the "White 
Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there music...thus 
Catering to a small group in the community,but it still doenst give the 
person the right to give a generalization on the gabber commuity....

There is also one good thing that maybe you should and everybody else should 
learn "GABBER IS HARDCORE" old skool rave is not hardcore that has also 
pissed me off and now someone here understands thank you Chris *lol*  I just 
dont like arguing im too much of a pacifasist...HAHA



>all ravers are 17 year old drug addicted high school drop-outs >destined to 
>live with their parents

I have NO comment except i lve not on my own...:P


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4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter) 
>> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on racism 
>>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define that 
>>movement is silly and unfair.
>
>Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the "White 
>Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there music...

Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in neo-nazi-ism"....which is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.

SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)




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hmmm personally i dont care this isnt my personal email addy anyways adn 
thats what i use to order shit so IMO can suck my cock if they think 
anything of it and so can that other pansy waste cocksmoker who gave out the 
emails addys can licked my shaved scrotum... and trust me licking that is 
best fun he has ever had......


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

> sorry guys i don't like it. just my opinion so don't berrate me.

i actually agree wid aztek, [for a change] ;o)

all it is, is a 4 maybe 8 bar loop of blandness
u can't really hear the 4/4 [maybe thats just the ra].
people have tooo much technology at their fingertips,
they forget about the feel and the groove,

where are the tearin amens?


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Subject: (oldschool) Dj Trace iD

wots da toon called 
wid the jimi polo/40miles piano break innit?

it seems i have two ?
why, i have no idea

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Subject: (oldschool) Red Square toOon iD

i think this was asked before by someone else,
but did we get an answer?

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Subject: (oldschool) NRG Possee - The Final Word - How much is it worth ??

Ok guys.......ive agreed to sell this tune to the lists very own Andy
Gugs....but, as i have no idea of what its value is, and as im a reasonable
chap, i thought id put it to the list to see what the general consensus is
about what its worth.

So...let me know what ya think.

Cheers

Alex
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>
> gimme a price your happy with mate......I have a friend in the UK visiting
soon so you can send the track to a london addy
>
> cheers
>
> andrew
>
> >From: "AlexR" <zimmaboy@hotmail.com>
> >To: <g_u_g_s@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) OT: abusive reading....lol!
> >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 11:17:33 -0000
> >
> >Hi Andy
> >
> >Dont have a wants list at the moment.........never got round to knocking
one
> >up.    So, im happy to sell it to ya for cash if thats ok with you.
> >
> >As for negotiations......well, dont really have a clue how much these go
> >for. So, i guess you could make me an offer....or maybe we should ask the
> >list what they think its worth ????
> >
> >Let me know
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Alex
> >
> >ps.......what are the postage rates to Maylasia ?   pretty high i guess
no ?
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
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> > > AndrewMarch 29, 2002 2:53 AM
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> >
> > > Hey Andy.....you asshole, .....fucking jerk, you can eat
shit....oh...and
> > > fuck you !!!!   ;o)
> > >
> > > I have a spare of you want it !!   ;o)
> > >
> > >
> > > lol! Alex....nice one matey been after that abusive number for a
while.
> > > Please send me your wants list to my private addy and the negotiations
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> > >
> > > thanks again
> > >
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At 20:59 02/04/02 +0100, you wrote:
>wots da toon called
>wid the jimi polo/40miles piano break innit?

Inception ?


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Subject: (oldschool) Fast Eddie - jack to the sound LP

Im nominating this for the Funkiest record sleeve ever =))

he looks like a real smooth operator...


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right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what =
to do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.=20

a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for =A340. the auction had no =
mention of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the =
record which should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:

Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and =
collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going to =
be any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it =
but =A340.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I =
should have asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is =
unlike me to slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment =
but I am going to have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't =
going to cause a problem. I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a =
large number of + feedbacks so I don't want to do anything that would =
jepordize my status. I hope you can appreciate that from a collectors =
point of view this item is not excellent if it does not come with the =
original sleeve. I would appreciate it if you could return or destroy =
the cheque that I have sent to you on receipt and I can confirm that I =
will be placing a stop on the payment tomorrow.=20

Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.=20

regards=20

Gus=20


This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of the =
sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm gonna =
have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a business, =
not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?



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." I appreciate that I should have asked you prior to buying the vinyl and
 too be honest it is unlike me to slip up like this."

but he has made a mistake,
and a  bit of an expensive one, aswell

LOL

maybe give him a discount 
cos it's not got the original sleeve.



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i don't think he'd take it tho. seeing as he's such a 'collector',i was
thinking about doing it for £30 inclusive of postage. does that seem fair. i
think so.

dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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> ." I appreciate that I should have asked you prior to buying the vinyl and
>  too be honest it is unlike me to slip up like this."
>
> but he has made a mistake,
> and a  bit of an expensive one, aswell
>
> LOL
>
> maybe give him a discount
> cos it's not got the original sleeve.
>
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GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK AGAIN


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>Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
>
>right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what to 
>do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
>
>a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no mention 
>of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record which 
>should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
>
>Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and 
>collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going to be 
>any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it but 
>£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I should have 
>asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike me to 
>slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am going to 
>have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a problem. 
>I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of + feedbacks 
>so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I hope you 
>can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is not 
>excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would appreciate 
>it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to you on 
>receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the payment 
>tomorrow.
>
>Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
>
>regards
>
>Gus
>
>
>This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of the 
>sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm gonna 
>have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a business, 
>not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
>
>
>
>dj_aztek@btinternet.com
>http://jungletekno.bossak.com
>ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

sounds like a case of buyer's remorse. some people impulsively reserve or 
buy tunes, then later regret their impulse and try to back out.

seeing as how crucial the sleeve is to him, he should have asked first 
before buying. now you are getting jerked around because of his indecision, 
so the negative feedback should definitely be reported, IMO, so others can 
be careful dealing with him.

whether you rip up the cheque or force him to honour it though, is up to 
you.

just my .02

cheers

Liam



>From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
>
>right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what to 
>do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
>
>a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no mention 
>of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record which 
>should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
>
>Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and 
>collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going to be 
>any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it but 
>£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I should have 
>asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike me to 
>slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am going to 
>have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a problem. 
>I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of + feedbacks 
>so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I hope you 
>can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is not 
>excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would appreciate 
>it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to you on 
>receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the payment 
>tomorrow.
>
>Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
>
>regards
>
>Gus
>
>
>This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of the 
>sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm gonna 
>have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a business, 
>not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
>
>
>
>dj_aztek@btinternet.com
>http://jungletekno.bossak.com
>ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

easier said than done tho. i was one click away from telling him exactly
that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation

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----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN


> GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK AGAIN
>
>
> >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> >
> >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what
to
> >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> >
> >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no mention
> >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record which
> >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> >
> >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and
> >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going to be
> >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it but
> >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I should have
> >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike me to
> >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am going
to
> >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a
problem.
> >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of + feedbacks
> >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I hope you
> >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is not
> >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
appreciate
> >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to you on
> >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the payment
> >tomorrow.
> >
> >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Gus
> >
> >
> >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of the
> >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm gonna
> >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a business,
> >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> >
> >
> >
> >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
>
>
>
>
> Rich-E
> icq# 40049222
>
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Subject: (oldschool) return of Etc  ( + jungle tekno) 


if jungle tekno is coming back we really better go and bust Mad P out of 
prison  :)

"b b b b belieeeeeve meeeeeee"

i love jungle tekno,
not very keen on "thugged out bitch" at all tho

i agree that "Squash by Total science" is the fucking tuuuuunnnnneeeee!

i dont think just a 4/4 bang is bringing back jungle tekno, we would need 
eerie strings and those sort of rushy breaks like most basement recs tunes 
have, and Mad P for that,

ps drum and bass is brilliant

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

he's cancelled the cheque so it's worthless.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Recoil >" <the_recoil@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN


> sounds like a case of buyer's remorse. some people impulsively reserve or
> buy tunes, then later regret their impulse and try to back out.
>
> seeing as how crucial the sleeve is to him, he should have asked first
> before buying. now you are getting jerked around because of his
indecision,
> so the negative feedback should definitely be reported, IMO, so others can
> be careful dealing with him.
>
> whether you rip up the cheque or force him to honour it though, is up to
> you.
>
> just my .02
>
> cheers
>
> Liam
>
>
>
> >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> >
> >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what
to
> >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> >
> >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no mention
> >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record which
> >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> >
> >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and
> >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going to be
> >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it but
> >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I should have
> >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike me to
> >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am going
to
> >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a
problem.
> >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of + feedbacks
> >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I hope you
> >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is not
> >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
appreciate
> >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to you on
> >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the payment
> >tomorrow.
> >
> >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> >
> >regards
> >
> >Gus
> >
> >
> >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of the
> >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm gonna
> >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a business,
> >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> >
> >
> >
> >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
>
>
>
>
> <-Recoil
> hardcore * jungle * drum and bass
> Toronto, Canada
> ICQ: 98984143
> the_recoil@hotmail.com
>
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see man theres your prblem you thought about it dont do those things its ok 
to get angery
this guy just doesnt seem to know what he wants and thats not fair to you or 
anyone else that this guy could have fucked over b4
put your foot down man

>From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:35:37 +0100
>
>easier said than done tho. i was one click away from telling him exactly
>that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation
>
>dj_aztek@btinternet.com
>http://jungletekno.bossak.com
>ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 PM
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
>
>
> > GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK AGAIN
> >
> >
> > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> > >
> > >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what
>to
> > >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> > >
> > >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no 
>mention
> > >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record 
>which
> > >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> > >
> > >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and
> > >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going to 
>be
> > >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it 
>but
> > >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I should 
>have
> > >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike me 
>to
> > >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am going
>to
> > >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a
>problem.
> > >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of + 
>feedbacks
> > >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I hope 
>you
> > >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is not
> > >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
>appreciate
> > >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to you on
> > >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the payment
> > >tomorrow.
> > >
> > >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> > >
> > >regards
> > >
> > >Gus
> > >
> > >
> > >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of the
> > >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm gonna
> > >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a 
>business,
> > >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rich-E
> > icq# 40049222
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

anybody know what label this will be coming out on? has it had a proper
release yet?

---chris

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http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm


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I have heard about this. Where can I hear a clip?


on 5/3/02 1:09 pm, lex at lex21@btinternet.com wrote:

> 9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in 
> hardcore jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's 
> "thugged out bitch"
> 
> it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly 
> disgustingly the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd 
> just made a tune with renegade which sounded pretty good.
> 


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) return of Etc ( + jungle tekno)

"Squash by Total science"
is a fucking wikked track i agreee


MAD p is in prison?
i didnt know that.....






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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

if i put my foot down i'll lose the money. i need to get cash asap. i gotta
pay £600 car insurance in a weeks time. i can't wait for another auction to
end, i need the money NOW. why does this type of thing always happen at the
worst possible time??? it's that bastard murphy rearing his ugly read
again!!!!!

dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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----- Original Message -----
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>
> see man theres your prblem you thought about it dont do those things its
ok
> to get angery
> this guy just doesnt seem to know what he wants and thats not fair to you
or
> anyone else that this guy could have fucked over b4
> put your foot down man
>
> >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:35:37 +0100
> >
> >easier said than done tho. i was one click away from telling him exactly
> >that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation
> >
> >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 PM
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> >
> >
> > > GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK
AGAIN
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> > > >
> > > >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to
what
> >to
> > > >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> > > >
> > > >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no
> >mention
> > > >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record
> >which
> > > >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> > > >
> > > >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value and
> > > >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going
to
> >be
> > > >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning it
> >but
> > > >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I should
> >have
> > > >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike me
> >to
> > > >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am
going
> >to
> > > >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a
> >problem.
> > > >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of +
> >feedbacks
> > > >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I hope
> >you
> > > >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is not
> > > >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
> >appreciate
> > > >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to you
on
> > > >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the
payment
> > > >tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> > > >
> > > >regards
> > > >
> > > >Gus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of
the
> > > >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm
gonna
> > > >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a
> >business,
> > > >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > > >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich-E
> > > icq# 40049222
> > >
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> > > http://www.braveheart.ch/home.htm
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows better....


>to be honest, the UK, US, & Australia are the only places I've ever seen
>that say "hardcore" and mean "old school rave/hhc/freeform/etc." In the
>Netherlands, Germany, Belgium, Italy, and the rest of mainland Europe,
>"hardcore" means what we would call gabber. Ever been record shopping in
>mainland Europe? Good luck finding hhc in the hardcore section. Also, it

Bollocks!  The reason some old school gets refered to as hardcore is because
at the time it was the hardcore of the era, you know before gabba came
along.  You shouldn't also be saying were wrong with our definition of
hardcore considering what you call hardcore came about from the hardcore was
coming out in the UK all that time ago.  Hardcore has just .changed through
the years

>should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter) definitely
>have neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on racism in any way.
>Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define that movement is
>silly and unfair. After all, by the same standards, all Americans are
>gun-toting militant nationalist reactionaries,

Your right on this one!  Gabba is a great form of hardcore and the majority
of the people who love it are decent folk who just like mad music.  Its also
more the football hooligan skin head found in europe that have given the
music this image.

>and all ravers are 17 year old drug addicted high school drop-outs destined
to live
>with their parents for eternity.

Again bollocks!  There is no such thing as ravers anymore.  The only ravers
left are us old farts who were there at the good old days.  I would say I'm
still a raver and I'm pretty much the opposite of a 17 year old drug addict
drop-out as is probably the case for most of the ravers on this site.


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Subject: (oldschool) Fw: return of Etc  ( + jungle tekno)

meeethinks this woz meant for da list


if jungle tekno is coming back we really better go and bust Mad P out of
prison  :)

"b b b b belieeeeeve meeeeeee"

i love jungle tekno,
not very keen on "thugged out bitch" at all tho

i agree that "Squash by Total science" is the fucking tuuuuunnnnneeeee!

i dont think just a 4/4 bang is bringing back jungle tekno, we would need
eerie strings and those sort of rushy breaks like most basement recs tunes
have, and Mad P for that,

ps drum and bass is brilliant

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---the reply

what a complete wanker!!!!!:

Hi

Thanks for your more than generous offer but the vinyl is still no use to me
without the sleeve. I don't think this is an expensive mistake, the money
aspect is not an issue it's the record that is the problem it is worthless
to me without the sleeve. I cannot stress enough that excellent condition in
my book is not an item such as this coming without it's original sleeve. All
I can do is apologise and prompt you to leave the relative appropriate
feedback and I will do the same.

Again I am sorry that your auction is not what it says it is.

Regards

Gus


dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN


> if i put my foot down i'll lose the money. i need to get cash asap. i
gotta
> pay £600 car insurance in a weeks time. i can't wait for another auction
to
> end, i need the money NOW. why does this type of thing always happen at
the
> worst possible time??? it's that bastard murphy rearing his ugly read
> again!!!!!
>
> dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
>
>
> >
> > see man theres your prblem you thought about it dont do those things its
> ok
> > to get angery
> > this guy just doesnt seem to know what he wants and thats not fair to
you
> or
> > anyone else that this guy could have fucked over b4
> > put your foot down man
> >
> > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:35:37 +0100
> > >
> > >easier said than done tho. i was one click away from telling him
exactly
> > >that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation
> > >
> > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 PM
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > >
> > >
> > > > GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK
> AGAIN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > > > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to
> what
> > >to
> > > > >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> > > > >
> > > > >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no
> > >mention
> > > > >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record
> > >which
> > > > >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value
and
> > > > >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going
> to
> > >be
> > > > >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning
it
> > >but
> > > > >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I
should
> > >have
> > > > >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike
me
> > >to
> > > > >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am
> going
> > >to
> > > > >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a
> > >problem.
> > > > >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of +
> > >feedbacks
> > > > >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I
hope
> > >you
> > > > >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is
not
> > > > >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
> > >appreciate
> > > > >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to
you
> on
> > > > >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the
> payment
> > > > >tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> > > > >
> > > > >regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Gus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of
> the
> > > > >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm
> gonna
> > > > >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a
> > >business,
> > > > >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > > > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > > > >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rich-E
> > > > icq# 40049222
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arsonist- urban shakedown **no pic sleeve**
vibes- get high- asylum

let me know private styleee

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

4/2/2002 3:20:56 AM, Paul Pryor <paulpryor@mac.com> wrote:

>That will be the forgotten original mix. It was the B-side of subbase 27.

Nice, thanks!  Rare, I assume?



>on 2/4/02 6:54 am, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> What is this MP3 I have of "Dark Stranger" that isnt the famous one?
>> 
>> It's got this sample "Another terrifying intro"
>> 
>> and some Star Wars-esque samples.
>> 
>> It's pretty evil!
>> 
>> kinda been bored with darkside so much lately (I need some happiness!), but
>> this tune is wikked.
>> 
>> 
>> ------------
>> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled by
>> The Prodigy, 1992
>> 
>> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---the reply

give him neg feedback and sell to the next highest bidder dude. The guy is
fukkin you about.
clarkee

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what a complete wanker!!!!!:

Hi

Thanks for your more than generous offer but the vinyl is still no use to me
without the sleeve. I don't think this is an expensive mistake, the money
aspect is not an issue it's the record that is the problem it is worthless
to me without the sleeve. I cannot stress enough that excellent condition in
my book is not an item such as this coming without it's original sleeve. All
I can do is apologise and prompt you to leave the relative appropriate
feedback and I will do the same.

Again I am sorry that your auction is not what it says it is.

Regards

Gus


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> if i put my foot down i'll lose the money. i need to get cash asap. i
gotta
> pay £600 car insurance in a weeks time. i can't wait for another auction
to
> end, i need the money NOW. why does this type of thing always happen at
the
> worst possible time??? it's that bastard murphy rearing his ugly read
> again!!!!!
>
> dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> http://jungletekno.bossak.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:38 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
>
>
> >
> > see man theres your prblem you thought about it dont do those things its
> ok
> > to get angery
> > this guy just doesnt seem to know what he wants and thats not fair to
you
> or
> > anyone else that this guy could have fucked over b4
> > put your foot down man
> >
> > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:35:37 +0100
> > >
> > >easier said than done tho. i was one click away from telling him
exactly
> > >that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation
> > >
> > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
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> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 PM
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
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> > >
> > > > GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK
> AGAIN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > > > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> > > > >
> > > > >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to
> what
> > >to
> > > > >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> > > > >
> > > > >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no
> > >mention
> > > > >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record
> > >which
> > > > >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> > > > >
> > > > >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value
and
> > > > >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not going
> to
> > >be
> > > > >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be questioning
it
> > >but
> > > > >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I
should
> > >have
> > > > >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is unlike
me
> > >to
> > > > >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am
> going
> > >to
> > > > >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause a
> > >problem.
> > > > >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of +
> > >feedbacks
> > > > >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I
hope
> > >you
> > > > >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is
not
> > > > >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
> > >appreciate
> > > > >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to
you
> on
> > > > >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the
> payment
> > > > >tomorrow.
> > > > >
> > > > >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> > > > >
> > > > >regards
> > > > >
> > > > >Gus
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out of
> the
> > > > >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm
> gonna
> > > > >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a
> > >business,
> > > > >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Fast Eddie - jack to the sound LP

some top tunes on it too!
rc

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Sent: 02 April 2002 21:44
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Subject: (oldschool) Fast Eddie - jack to the sound LP


Im nominating this for the Funkiest record sleeve ever =))

he looks like a real smooth operator...


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---the reply

only 1 drawback. he did buy it now which was £15 more than the next highest
bidder. i spose i'll have to take it, unless anone wants to improve on
this????

dj_aztek@btinternet.com
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ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:30 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---the reply


> give him neg feedback and sell to the next highest bidder dude. The guy is
> fukkin you about.
> clarkee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DJ AZTEK [mailto:dj_aztek@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 02 April 2002 22:49
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---the reply
>
>
> what a complete wanker!!!!!:
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for your more than generous offer but the vinyl is still no use to
me
> without the sleeve. I don't think this is an expensive mistake, the money
> aspect is not an issue it's the record that is the problem it is worthless
> to me without the sleeve. I cannot stress enough that excellent condition
in
> my book is not an item such as this coming without it's original sleeve.
All
> I can do is apologise and prompt you to leave the relative appropriate
> feedback and I will do the same.
>
> Again I am sorry that your auction is not what it says it is.
>
> Regards
>
> Gus
>
>
> dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:44 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
>
>
> > if i put my foot down i'll lose the money. i need to get cash asap. i
> gotta
> > pay £600 car insurance in a weeks time. i can't wait for another auction
> to
> > end, i need the money NOW. why does this type of thing always happen at
> the
> > worst possible time??? it's that bastard murphy rearing his ugly read
> > again!!!!!
> >
> > dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> >
> >
> > >
> > > see man theres your prblem you thought about it dont do those things
its
> > ok
> > > to get angery
> > > this guy just doesnt seem to know what he wants and thats not fair to
> you
> > or
> > > anyone else that this guy could have fucked over b4
> > > put your foot down man
> > >
> > > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:35:37 +0100
> > > >
> > > >easier said than done tho. i was one click away from telling him
> exactly
> > > >that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation
> > > >
> > > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > > >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 10:33 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > GET THE MONEY TELL HIM TO FUCK HIMSELF AND DONT SELL TO THE PRICK
> > AGAIN
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com>
> > > > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > >Subject: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:14:58 +0100
> > > > > >
> > > > > >right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as
to
> > what
> > > >to
> > > > > >do as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for £40. the auction had no
> > > >mention
> > > > > >of coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the
record
> > > >which
> > > > > >should arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sorry to have to tell you this but I have looked in to the value
> and
> > > > > >collectability of this record and without the sleeve it's not
going
> > to
> > > >be
> > > > > >any use to me. If it had the sleeve then I wouldn't be
questioning
> it
> > > >but
> > > > > >£40.00 is alot to pay without the sleeve. I appreciate that I
> should
> > > >have
> > > > > >asked you prior to buying the vinyl and too be honest it is
unlike
> me
> > > >to
> > > > > >slip up like this. As I said I have sent you the payment but I am
> > going
> > > >to
> > > > > >have to pull out of the deal so I hope this isn't going to cause
a
> > > >problem.
> > > > > >I buy and sell regularly on ebay and I have a large number of +
> > > >feedbacks
> > > > > >so I don't want to do anything that would jepordize my status. I
> hope
> > > >you
> > > > > >can appreciate that from a collectors point of view this item is
> not
> > > > > >excellent if it does not come with the original sleeve. I would
> > > >appreciate
> > > > > >it if you could return or destroy the cheque that I have sent to
> you
> > on
> > > > > >receipt and I can confirm that I will be placing a stop on the
> > payment
> > > > > >tomorrow.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Apologies for any inconvenience that this may have caused.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Gus
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >This takes the piss, not only does he wanna completely pull out
of
> > the
> > > > > >sale. he also doesn't want me to leave him negative feedback. i'm
> > gonna
> > > > > >have to be an arsehole and demand payment. i sell records as a
> > > >business,
> > > > > >not to fucked around like this. what would YOU do?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >dj_aztek@btinternet.com
> > > > > >http://jungletekno.bossak.com
> > > > > >ebay auctions- http://makeashorterlink.com/?A13A2329
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rich-E
> > > > > icq# 40049222
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.megaraves.com
> > > > > http://www.braveheart.ch/home.htm
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

4/2/2002 9:03:16 AM, "sherwin rice" <sherwin.rice@fernhart.com> wrote:

>http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm

WIKKED tune.

Goldie played a 4/4 tune when I saw him too, different than this.

THIS is AWESOME.



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just added the first of many rips up on our website.=20
It's in two parts, each 20.5mb if anyone wants...

Ratty @ Quest (Birthday Party) 18/9/92


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Subject: (oldschool) Advertising rules

http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

Look over on the side  ;)



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

Be funny if he got charged £25 by his bank to cancel
the cheque!! ;o)

I personally prefer to have the original sleeve for a
tune (just like I'd rather have the official release
rather than a promo) but if it really means that much
to him he should have checked with you first.

Bit of an impossible situation though really. Offering
him a discount is fair enough, tell him you play the
record not the bleeding sleeve!!!

Matt B


Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:36:29 +0100
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he's cancelled the cheque so it's worthless.

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Tell him to pay all the eBay fees or you'll negative feedback his ass....



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On second thoughts it sounds to me like this guy isn't
even buying the record for himself. He's probably got
a buyer lined up to pay £80 for the tune. Either his
buyer doesn't want it anymore, or will only have it if
it comes with the sleeve.

Fuck him!!! LOL

Matt B


Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 22:35:37 +0100
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easier said than done tho. i was one click away from
telling him 
exactly
that. then i counted to 10 and rethought the situation

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I'll sell you the picture sleeve off my Arsonist for a tenner!



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Subject: (oldschool) Sub 45 - move ep (union city records) 

Any good?



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

i got a tune i downloaded labelled
>d'cruze - Suburban Base Records 037 199x

sounds like dark stranger can anyone confirm what this tune is called i
think its heaven n dark something or other

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> 4/2/2002 3:20:56 AM, Paul Pryor <paulpryor@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >That will be the forgotten original mix. It was the B-side of subbase 27.
>
> Nice, thanks!  Rare, I assume?
>
>
>
> >on 2/4/02 6:54 am, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> >> What is this MP3 I have of "Dark Stranger" that isnt the famous one?
> >>
> >> It's got this sample "Another terrifying intro"
> >>
> >> and some Star Wars-esque samples.
> >>
> >> It's pretty evil!
> >>
> >> kinda been bored with darkside so much lately (I need some happiness!),
but
> >> this tune is wikked.
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------
> >> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's,
sampled by
> >> The Prodigy, 1992
> >>
> >> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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> >>  (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Red Square toOon iD

nope  i posted the subject 
aint heard it since bloody good tune tho

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

DJ Entropy wrote:

> Goldie played a 4/4 tune when I saw him too, different than this.

Only other (fairly) recent D&B tune I know of with a kick on every beat
is Moving Fusion - Black Hole on RAM Raiders vol.3. Might have been
that...

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

4/2/2002 6:09:42 PM, chris shaw <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>DJ Entropy wrote:
>
>> Goldie played a 4/4 tune when I saw him too, different than this.
>
>Only other (fairly) recent D&B tune I know of with a kick on every beat
>is Moving Fusion - Black Hole on RAM Raiders vol.3. Might have been
>that...

Nah, I know that one, it wasn't that.  It MAY have been this Dillinja one, but I don't remember hearing any vocals.....I was quite pissed tho  ;)



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

Heaven 'n Dark - D'Cruze. It's on Subplates Volume 3

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> i got a tune i downloaded labelled
> >d'cruze - Suburban Base Records 037 199x
>
> sounds like dark stranger can anyone confirm what this tune is called i
> think its heaven n dark something or other
>
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> > 4/2/2002 3:20:56 AM, Paul Pryor <paulpryor@mac.com> wrote:
> >
> > >That will be the forgotten original mix. It was the B-side of subbase
27.
> >
> > Nice, thanks!  Rare, I assume?
> >
> >
> >
> > >on 2/4/02 6:54 am, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:
> > >
> > >> What is this MP3 I have of "Dark Stranger" that isnt the famous one?
> > >>
> > >> It's got this sample "Another terrifying intro"
> > >>
> > >> and some Star Wars-esque samples.
> > >>
> > >> It's pretty evil!
> > >>
> > >> kinda been bored with darkside so much lately (I need some
happiness!),
> but
> > >> this tune is wikked.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ------------
> > >> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's,
> sampled by
> > >> The Prodigy, 1992
> > >>
> > >> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> ian@djentropy.com
> > >>  (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

yeah lex ya right wiked tune..........................big bo jah!!!




djhb@talk21.com wrote:
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> Agreed, this is a tune! Jungle techno is coming back it seems:-)))))))))))))))
> 
> > 9 years on from 1993 when i think a 4/4 kickdrum was last used in hardcore jungle techno behind an amen, and it returns in Dillinja's "thugged out bitch"
> >
> >it's being  caned at the moment , and is absolutely stinkingly disgustingly the fattest thing since ray Keith told the massive he'd just made a tune with renegade which sounded pretty good.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

eh lex you post on the dnb arena forum to right under let me guess lex?

lex wrote:
> 
> destiny if u come telepathy on Sunday and heard this dropped 4 times along
> with some other dillinja tunes and felt the vibe u wouldn't be saying that
> its shit.
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> > http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm
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> > You got to give it to Dillinja, he can consistantly churn out totally
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---the reply

My opinion on this:

- he should have check b4 bidding if this was so important to him and the
auction did not stipulate either way
- E-Bay clearly suggest bidders do this - he has had plenty of warning
- he has clearly seen it somewhere cheaper and decided to fuck you over

BUT

if you negative feedback him, he'll sure as hell negative you and you still
won't have your money.

The smart move is report him to E-Bay as a non-paying bidder. They take a
dim view of non-paying bidder - let them kick his arse - he might then pay
up. Tell him you will have to do this otherwise they won't void the closing
auction fees and your sorry but he has left you no option. And make it clear
to him the auction did not in any way misrepresent the goods.

If they don't get his arse moving then -ve feedback him and kiss good bye to
your dosh (but having at least saved yourself the closing fees).


Steve
aka DJ Moody
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Tell him to pay all the eBay fees or you'll negative feedback his ass....



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Subject: (oldschool) Mine mine mINE MUHAHAHAHA


Neuromancer - Pennywise/Unforgettable Feeling - Symphony Sound


I JUST FOUND THIS AT THE "TRADING POST"





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Subject: RE: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN---(check the brackets)



"DJ Moody" <>My opinion on this:
>
>- he should have check b4 bidding if this was so important to him and the 
>auction did not stipulate either way (in other words he should learn to 
>read)

>- E-Bay clearly suggest bidders do this - he has had plenty of 
>warning(normally the warning bell would have went off but it was on mute 
>cuz he was listening some grrl give his little a blowjob b4 he wwent to 
>work to have a $145 wank)

>- he has clearly seen it somewhere cheaper and decided to fuck you 
>over(personally i would never fuck you over your too much of a sexxxy 
>looking bitch and we all love you some more then others but hey after a 
>couple good stiff drinks you never know ;)... )
>
>BUT
>
>if you negative feedback him, he'll sure as hell negative you and you still
>won't have your money.(Pimpin aint easy brother)
>
>The smart move is report him to E-Bay as a non-paying bidder.(call in the 
>big boy to take out the trash) They take a
>dim view of non-paying bidder (they'll break everybone in his body for the 
>right price on your AMEX card)-

let them kick his arse - he might then pay up.(he better or its time to send 
him to Thunderdome for a serious ass whooping)

Tell him you will have to do this otherwise they won't void the closing
auction fees (Hold the dagger over his nuts send an emp down his pants as he 
is standing in a puddle of his own piss and blood lets see how the piggy 
fries)

and your sorry but he has left you no option.(tell that part to your lawyer 
cuz they have to beleave whatever you say too them)
And make it clear(dagger thing again juist to make sure)
>to him the auction did not in any way misrepresent the goods.
>
>If they don't get his arse moving then -ve feedback him and kiss good bye 
>to
>your dosh (but having at least saved yourself the closing fees).(this is 
>the easy way to do it the hard way listen to moody)


(remember bois and grrls its only a crime when you are caught with your 
pants down fucking a whore in the ally that your mum got knocked up in)




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?

i have a double 10" promo subplates thing - i forget the cat. - i know one 
tune on there is that one with the "bludclot crackhead" tune on there - is 
that Subplates 3?

cheers

Liam


>From: "Mezma" <aj004c5463@blueyonder.co.uk>
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>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 00:13:13 +0100
>
>Heaven 'n Dark - D'Cruze. It's on Subplates Volume 3
>
>Mez
>www.ravelation.co.uk
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "wotisgoingon" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <djentropy@mindspring.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:10 AM
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?
>
>
> > i got a tune i downloaded labelled
> > >d'cruze - Suburban Base Records 037 199x
> >
> > sounds like dark stranger can anyone confirm what this tune is called i
> > think its heaven n dark something or other
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 11:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Another "Dark Stranger"?
> >
> >
> > > 4/2/2002 3:20:56 AM, Paul Pryor <paulpryor@mac.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >That will be the forgotten original mix. It was the B-side of subbase
>27.
> > >
> > > Nice, thanks!  Rare, I assume?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >on 2/4/02 6:54 am, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> What is this MP3 I have of "Dark Stranger" that isnt the famous 
>one?
> > > >>
> > > >> It's got this sample "Another terrifying intro"
> > > >>
> > > >> and some Star Wars-esque samples.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's pretty evil!
> > > >>
> > > >> kinda been bored with darkside so much lately (I need some
>happiness!),
> > but
> > > >> this tune is wikked.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ------------
> > > >> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's,
> > sampled by
> > > >> The Prodigy, 1992
> > > >>
> > > >> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> > ian@djentropy.com
> > > >>  (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> > boston)
> > > >>     Animators of Intensity info:
>http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> > > >> Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> > > >> http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
> > > >>    Register to vote NOW:
> > > >> http://www.bostonvote.org/registertovote/register_to_vote.html
> > > >>        http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> > > >>   Upcoming gigs: 
>http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
> > > >>                       "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
> > Quinn
> > > >>       "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> > Educate the
> > > >>      narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine 
>-
> > Genacide
> > > >> II
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > >
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> > >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> > boston)
> > >       Animators of Intensity info:
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> > >                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
>Quinn
> > >         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> > Educate the
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Subject: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?


aside from you Pukka =)

anyone else on this list from the Toronto area?

Liam

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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.

and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a logo
on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
facism"

i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the music,
but that's not the music's fault.


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bette r....


> 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter)
> >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
racism
> >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define that
> >>movement is silly and unfair.
> >
> >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
"White
> >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there music...
>
> Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in neo-nazi-ism"....which
is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
>
> SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
>
>
>
>
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
by The Prodigy, 1992
>
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
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>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
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Subject: (oldschool) FA: Last Day

http://cgi6.ebay.ca/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=ext-

lots of old stuff. a bunch of them have mp3 sound clips in the description.
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Aarghhhhh=20not=20me:-)=20I=20have=20never=20ordered=20off=20IMO=20yet=20tho=20so=20have=20no=20problem=20with=20them:-)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IMO DEBATE

i admit it. it was me. fwaaaaahhhhhhh. i love IMO so much that i decided to
spark the whole thread to get everyones e-mail so that i could be chief
snitch!!!! i'm off to go and trawl through some celebrites rubish bins to
dig up some dirt (anyone see that program tonight???)

:-)

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Aarghhhhh not me:-) I have never ordered off IMO yet tho so have no problem
with them:-)
That's me covered;-)


> i have just found out that someone on this list gave IMO all of our email
>addresses because we were involved in "discussions" about bootlegs.
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ref: www.wap-dance.com

has anyone got any contact with the main tosser Ben Waplington. he still =
owes me =A325 from about a year ago. he's now stopped the bullshit and =
just ignores my e-mails. anyone know him??

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how much did that cost?

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>
http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=ut
f-8
>
> Look over on the side  ;)
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

It is a myth that gabba is nazi music.

The scene within Holland has had some problems in that gabbers are typically
skinheads which of course means that some hooligans/nazis choose to
associate themselves with it.
Many of the biggest names and originators of the scene in the Holland are
not white thought e.g. dj Paul (elstack), Akira, bass-d, darkraver, gizmo,
the viper etc. and all the larger organizations at least put anti fascism
slogans on the sleeves, flyers etc.

Most of the parties have some sort of no-nazi rules, even stopping people
wearing boots, braces, nazi paraphernalia etc. to keep the minority of
individuals out.

The thing about the RTC made me laugh and reminds me off the daily star's
article which those of u whom have read Austin Reynolds "energy flash" will
now about. Where the newspaper did an article about the gabba scene in
London being fascist (complete bollox) and wrote about nazis bowing down to
their idols like Loftgroover.. irony being if the 'journalist' had
researched properly would have seen he is black as well.

I am heavily involved in the gabba scene and have never met a nazi yet so
there. complete pile of shite.




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bette r....


> rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
> mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
> and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.
>
> and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a
logo
> on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
> facism"
>
> i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
> have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the music,
> but that's not the music's fault.
>
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> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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> > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter)
> > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
> racism
> > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define
that
> > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > >
> > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
> "White
> > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there music...
> >
> > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in neo-nazi-ism"....which
> is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> >
> > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Advertising rules

4/2/2002 7:55:51 PM, "DJ AZTEK" <dj_aztek@btinternet.com> wrote:

>how much did that cost?

$15 USD per 1000 impressions.

You choose the search words, or phrases, and then set a dollar limit that you want to spend.  I chose "old skool" and $20, so the first 1,250 people that search for "old skool" in 
Google will see that ad.  It's cheaper if someone else has the same phrase already.

>http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8


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Subject: (oldschool) Noise Factory returns!!!

Looks as if Noise Factory are recording some new tunes again!  Oldskool
influenced modern D&B.  Their first new tune in like 9 years is absolutely
wicked.  "Can U Feel It"... oh my gosh it's wicked.  :)  The only
objection I have to it is it's waaaaaay too fast -- like 190 bpm or
something, I haven't timed it, but it's amazingly fast even for modern
D&B.  On the other hand it's very nice to hear a D&B tune that's not just
two step crap and the same loops the entire track.  Even has some classic
ragga samples in it and something that sounds suspiciously like a 303.

You can listen to it here:

http://www.nu-urbanmusic.co.uk/sales/archive/3lions/3l003.ram

:D :D :D

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Subject: (oldschool) Thugged Out Bitch (4/4 DNB)

Found an MP3 on AG (96 kbps, from Kiss 108):

http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/Dillinja_-_Thugged_Out_Bitch.mp3

http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com

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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Noise Factory returns!!!

now that's teaaaaaaaaarin'. very 95 esque

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> Looks as if Noise Factory are recording some new tunes again!  Oldskool
> influenced modern D&B.  Their first new tune in like 9 years is absolutely
> wicked.  "Can U Feel It"... oh my gosh it's wicked.  :)  The only
> objection I have to it is it's waaaaaay too fast -- like 190 bpm or
> something, I haven't timed it, but it's amazingly fast even for modern
> D&B.  On the other hand it's very nice to hear a D&B tune that's not just
> two step crap and the same loops the entire track.  Even has some classic
> ragga samples in it and something that sounds suspiciously like a 303.
>
> You can listen to it here:
>
> http://www.nu-urbanmusic.co.uk/sales/archive/3lions/3l003.ram
>
> :D :D :D
>
> Take care,
> - Chris
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

on 3/4/02 5:14 AM, DJ AZTEK at dj_aztek@btinternet.com wrote:

> right then guys here's my situation. i would like a response as to what t=
o do
> as i don't wanna seem an arse hole.
>=20
> a guy bought arsonist with buy it now for =A340. the auction had no mention=
 of
> coming with the picture sleeve. he's sent payment for the record which sh=
ould
> arrive tomorrow. here's the e-mail he just sent me:

If it was me selling the record, i'd hold onto his check. I would then ask
him to send another one that will cover the cost of you listing it again an=
d
maybe a little compensation for your time and effort. When that goes
through, I would then tear up the check. It sounds like he may have picked
up another copy between when he hit the *Buy Now* button and when he wrote
that mail. Who knows?!?!

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Advertising rules

on 3/4/02 6:53 AM, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:

> 
http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=ut
f-> 8
> 
> Look over on the side  ;)

Who ranked you as America's No.1 Hardcore DJ?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Advertising rules

4/2/2002 8:34:29 PM, Colin Dee <colindee@iprimus.com.au> wrote:

>on 3/4/02 6:53 AM, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> 
>http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=ut
>f-> 8
>> 
>> Look over on the side  ;)
>
>Who ranked you as America's No.1 Hardcore DJ?

Me!

:)

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its kiss 100 isnt it?? and that clip is from the rider show on radio 1 i
think

DJ Entropy wrote:
> 
> Found an MP3 on AG (96 kbps, from Kiss 108):
> 
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/Dillinja_-_Thugged_Out_Bitch.mp3
> 
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com
> 
> good stuff indeed.
> 
> ------------
> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled by The Prodigy, 1992
> 
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
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4/2/2002 8:51:08 PM, pukka <pukka@sprint.ca> wrote:

>its kiss 100 isnt it?? and that clip is from the rider show on radio 1 i
>think

Wotever!

THAT RAVE STATION IN LONDON

lol



>DJ Entropy wrote:
>> 
>> Found an MP3 on AG (96 kbps, from Kiss 108):
>> 
>> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/Dillinja_-_Thugged_Out_Bitch.mp3
>> 
>> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com
>> 
>> good stuff indeed.
>> 
>> ------------
>> "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled by The Prodigy, 1992
>> 
>> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
>>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
>>       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
>>   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
>>      Register to vote NOW:   http://www.bostonvote.org/registertovote/register_to_vote.html
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>>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
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>>        narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine - Genacide II
>> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Advertising rules

sounds good to me

DJ Entropy wrote:
> 
> 4/2/2002 8:34:29 PM, Colin Dee <colindee@iprimus.com.au> wrote:
> 
> >on 3/4/02 6:53 AM, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:
> >
> >>
> >http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=ut
> >f-> 8
> >>
> >> Look over on the side  ;)
> >
> >Who ranked you as America's No.1 Hardcore DJ?
> 
> Me!
> 
> :)
> 
> ------------
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> 
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
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>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
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I live in newmarket im moving to Toronto in june


>From: "Recoil >" <the_recoil@hotmail.com>
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>aside from you Pukka =)
>
>anyone else on this list from the Toronto area?
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Noise Factory returns!!!

4/2/2002 8:00:44 PM, Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

>Looks as if Noise Factory are recording some new tunes again!  Oldskool
>influenced modern D&B.  Their first new tune in like 9 years is absolutely
>wicked.  "Can U Feel It"... oh my gosh it's wicked.  :)  The only
>objection I have to it is it's waaaaaay too fast -- like 190 bpm or
>something, I haven't timed it, but it's amazingly fast even for modern
>D&B.  On the other hand it's very nice to hear a D&B tune that's not just
>two step crap and the same loops the entire track.  Even has some classic
>ragga samples in it and something that sounds suspiciously like a 303.
>
>You can listen to it here:
>
>http://www.nu-urbanmusic.co.uk/sales/archive/3lions/3l003.ram

Yeah, that is somethin!

Nice 1!


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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

RTC did 3 songs one was called White Race another was Arian Nation and the 
last one was called Sig Hial my Furur

weather or not if one guy is black and the other dude is white the songs 
they did still exisit


>From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
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>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows 
>bette r....
>Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:20:03 -0500
>
>rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
>mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
>and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.
>
>and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a logo
>on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
>facism"
>
>i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
>have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the music,
>but that's not the music's fault.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
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>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:12 PM
>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
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>
>
> > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter)
> > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
>racism
> > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define 
>that
> > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > >
> > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
>"White
> > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there music...
> >
> > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in neo-nazi-ism"....which
>is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> >
> > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------
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>sampled
>by The Prodigy, 1992
> >
> > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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> >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
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>Quinn
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>Educate the
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?

I live in ottawa. is that close enough? lol.. do you know rippin snare? 

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> I live in newmarket im moving to Toronto in june
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

right. i'm reading their discography and don't see these anywhere. what
label were they released on?

you are full of shit. why would a fat dutch guy with a black mc write songs
like this? you are way off. let's see some proof.

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> RTC did 3 songs one was called White Race another was Arian Nation and the
> last one was called Sig Hial my Furur
>
> weather or not if one guy is black and the other dude is white the songs
> they did still exisit
>
>
> >From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
> >bette r....
> >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:20:03 -0500
> >
> >rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
> >mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
> >and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.
> >
> >and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a
logo
> >on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
> >facism"
> >
> >i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
> >have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the music,
> >but that's not the music's fault.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:12 PM
> >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
> >bette r....
> >
> >
> > > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that
matter)
> > > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
> >racism
> > > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define
> >that
> > > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > > >
> > > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
> >"White
> > > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there
music...
> > >
> > > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in
neo-nazi-ism"....which
> >is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> > >
> > > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------
> > > "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's,
> >sampled
> >by The Prodigy, 1992
> > >
> > > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> >ian@djentropy.com
> > >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> >boston)
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> >http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> > >   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
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> >Educate the
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

Forget my last message to the bored i just looked at the songs again and i 
stand corrected about RTC....

so i was worng about something
there is always a first time


>From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows 
>bette r....
>Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 01:53:11 +0100
>
>It is a myth that gabba is nazi music.
>
>The scene within Holland has had some problems in that gabbers are 
>typically
>skinheads which of course means that some hooligans/nazis choose to
>associate themselves with it.
>Many of the biggest names and originators of the scene in the Holland are
>not white thought e.g. dj Paul (elstack), Akira, bass-d, darkraver, gizmo,
>the viper etc. and all the larger organizations at least put anti fascism
>slogans on the sleeves, flyers etc.
>
>Most of the parties have some sort of no-nazi rules, even stopping people
>wearing boots, braces, nazi paraphernalia etc. to keep the minority of
>individuals out.
>
>The thing about the RTC made me laugh and reminds me off the daily star's
>article which those of u whom have read Austin Reynolds "energy flash" will
>now about. Where the newspaper did an article about the gabba scene in
>London being fascist (complete bollox) and wrote about nazis bowing down to
>their idols like Loftgroover.. irony being if the 'journalist' had
>researched properly would have seen he is black as well.
>
>I am heavily involved in the gabba scene and have never met a nazi yet so
>there. complete pile of shite.
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:20 AM
>Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
>bette r....
>
>
> > rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
> > mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
> > and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.
> >
> > and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a
>logo
> > on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
> > facism"
> >
> > i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
> > have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the 
>music,
> > but that's not the music's fault.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
> > bette r....
> >
> >
> > > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that 
>matter)
> > > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
> > racism
> > > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define
>that
> > > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > > >
> > > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
> > "White
> > > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there 
>music...
> > >
> > > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in 
>neo-nazi-ism"....which
> > is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> > >
> > > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------
> > > "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's,
>sampled
> > by The Prodigy, 1992
> > >
> > > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> > ian@djentropy.com
> > >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> > boston)
> > >       Animators of Intensity info:
>http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> > >   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> > http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
> > >      Register to vote NOW:
> > http://www.bostonvote.org/registertovote/register_to_vote.html
> > >          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> > >     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
> > >                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel
>Quinn
> > >         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> > Educate the
> > >        narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine -
> > Genacide II
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?

Damn Ottawa i havent been there in ages
damn fucking family...


>From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
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>I live in ottawa. is that close enough? lol.. do you know rippin snare?
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> > I live in newmarket im moving to Toronto in june
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?

that guy pukka has a wiked site


http://www.pukkadawn.com

Adam wrote:
> 
> I live in ottawa. is that close enough? lol.. do you know rippin snare?
> 
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> > I live in newmarket im moving to Toronto in june
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> > >
> > >aside from you Pukka =)
> > >
> > >anyone else on this list from the Toronto area?
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not sure of the lable i got them from my friend in germany the Disc said 
Rotterdam terror corp Live maybe it was a party they did or maybe it was 
mislabed i dunno...im gonna contact him cuz now i feel like a compleat fool 
and i should have known better maybe i should learn german as well *lol*


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and how do i get on your ftp?

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> not sure of the lable i got them from my friend in germany the Disc said
> Rotterdam terror corp Live maybe it was a party they did or maybe it was
> mislabed i dunno...im gonna contact him cuz now i feel like a compleat
fool
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?

great site...


>From: pukka <pukka@sprint.ca>
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>that guy pukka has a wiked site
>
>
>http://www.pukkadawn.com
>
>Adam wrote:
> >
> > I live in ottawa. is that close enough? lol.. do you know rippin snare?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?
> >
> > > I live in newmarket im moving to Toronto in june
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Recoil >" <the_recoil@hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >Subject: (oldschool) any Toronto heads on here?
> > > >Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 18:57:33 -0500
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >aside from you Pukka =)
> > > >
> > > >anyone else on this list from the Toronto area?
> > > >
> > > >Liam
> > > >
> > > ><-Recoil
> > > >hardcore * jungle * drum and bass
> > > >Toronto, Canada
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do you have cute FTP or leap FTP at all???


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>and how do i get on your ftp?
>
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> > not sure of the lable i got them from my friend in germany the Disc said
> > Rotterdam terror corp Live maybe it was a party they did or maybe it was
> > mislabed i dunno...im gonna contact him cuz now i feel like a compleat
>fool
> > and i should have known better maybe i should learn german as well *lol*
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<sigh> yes. what's the address and password
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> do you have cute FTP or leap FTP at all???
>
>
> >From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> >
> >and how do i get on your ftp?
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
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> >
> >
> > > not sure of the lable i got them from my friend in germany the Disc
said
> > > Rotterdam terror corp Live maybe it was a party they did or maybe it
was
> > > mislabed i dunno...im gonna contact him cuz now i feel like a compleat
> >fool
> > > and i should have known better maybe i should learn german as well
*lol*
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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>I live in ottawa. is that close enough? lol.. do you know rippin snare?

Ottawa? no way ... too far =)  - Rippin Snare? yeah he spins old hardcore 
jungle here. Toronto is a great city to be an oldskool DJ in.
lots of people who still really feel it...

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>that guy pukka has a wiked site
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nice one Pukka!

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>I live in newmarket im moving to Toronto in june

hi Rich - you say you were spinnning at Turbo recently? what night was that? 
what are you into these days?

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Subject: (oldschool) i have a copy of bombscare for trade

anybody wanna trade?


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) EBAY-----AGAIN

I would give him bad feedback. If he gives you the same, respond to what he
says and explain why you had to leave it for him.

He admitted himself he is a trader, so its most likely that he had a buyer
ready to buy the tune off him for a huge amount of cash........

As other already mentioned, he had plenty of opportunity to check to see if
it had the proper sleeve, if it was that important he should of checked with
you before bidding. He has no excuses really!

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>I'mn sure I remember seeing one on 2x12" back in
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Nah, that EP never came out as a double, maybe you are confusing it with one
of the Subplate EP's?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

on 3/4/02 11:26 AM, DJ Destiny at djdestiny@kikit.org wrote:

>> I'mn sure I remember seeing one on 2x12" back in
>> the day but I've only seen single 12" recently, am I going mad?
> 
> Nah, that EP never came out as a double, maybe you are confusing it with one
> of the Subplate EP's?

This has been discussed on the list before. Subplates (Vol 1) came out on 2
x 10inch and also 1 x 12inch, not on 2 x 12inch.

As for Flowers in my Garden, has anyone got a copy up for trade? Send me on
your wants list *private* style and we'll see what we can do.

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Subject: (oldschool) NRG Possee - The Final Word - How much is it worth ?? +_ Random Whites

Ok guys.......ive agreed to sell this tune to the lists very own Andy
Gugs....but, as i have no idea of what its value is, and as im a reasonable
chap, i thought id put it to the list to see what the general consensus is
about what its worth.

So...let me know what ya think.

Cheers

Alex

c'mon then! reasonable request deserves a reasonable answer. Fuckin jerks 
Fuck you ;)

Also got 5 white labels knocking around which are for trade/wants if anyone 
is interested (alex get 1st shout). Have little info on any of them. If you 
can make out whats beneath! (from excel I'm afraid)...should be artist (all 
white labels), title, label, year if poss and most important cat no.

White Label	?	White	1992		CITRUS 01
White Label	POW POW 2	White?	POW POW 2
White Label  (actually Red!)	Biting Back?	SL001
White Label (actually Orange)	Junglism?	Ibitha? Nuff Said? NUFF  1
White Label (One to One)	I want to (original)	One II One 
Productions	1992?	OSST 001
White Label / NRG	? Good Oldskool!	FX Recordings	1992?		DFI 92 2 FXUAT 7

Would not mind some info on the last one.

cheers

andrew



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) clarkee - useless fact i know and love to hang

>The Club i visit every weekend is called Area 51
>on 517 King st in toronto

which reminds me of something. I think it was adelaide, or maybe melbourne, 
but probly adelaide. and the guy who was showing me all the local clubs said 
this one used to be area 51, its 3 storeys high and quite cool, I really 
cant imagine adelaide being a gabba techno place (possibly why its not area 
51 anymore!?!) but the fella said he thinks it had something to do with your 
label.

True, false, or drunken bullshit?

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Subject: (oldschool)  OT: Now I'm worried! Steve Please



Woke up to 5 more mails from Steve today......I'd appreciate it if you could 
take me off your private email list please Steve - not sure if you meant to 
include me or not as they were not referring to me.

thanks

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Best E-bay auction ever (+ a new event)

What a pain in the arse. Bournemouth starts to get hot again and Im on the 
other side of the piggin world, nightmare. oh well, judging by my credit 
card balance I could be home in time for it lol. bollox

Krane

>Oh yes the cheek of it - a full on 25p full spread advert. Check here:
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=855270729
>
>and if you can't be bothered with the link I'm proud the announce to ya
>......
>
>***** a new night of pure 100% oldskool hardcore for the South Coast
>massice, no compromise, no athem bashing, put on by ravers for ravers *****
>
>
>reENERGIZE
>
>Sat 13th April - Bournemouth
>
>Arena 1 - 91/93 Oldskool Hardcore
>
>SY (the scratchmaster)
>Dance (F-Project/Fantasia etc)
>Jedi & Stormtrooper (Raindance/Future Dance)
>Moody & Rizzla (Breakpirates)
>Maxx Vinyl (the lists very own)
>
>Arena 2 - 88/91 Chill out Session
>
>
>if you wanna see the full flyer click here:
>
>http://www.oldskoolmadness.com/Events.htm
>
>
>Shit I'm getting exited about this already. A posse of peeps off B2VOS are
>going - anyone from the list fancy meeting up as well.
>
>Cheers
>
>Steve
>aka DJ Moody
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

Yeah, Ive got the promo and its a 12", think Ive got the remix ep on promo 
too. Subplates promos were 2x10" and 12" official. Ive got a copy of 
subplates #1 which is silver vinyl limited 1000 press (mine = 199), anyone 
know if there were any colour vinyl presses of the other subplates?

Krane


> >I'mn sure I remember seeing one on 2x12" back in
> > the day but I've only seen single 12" recently, am I going mad?
>
>Nah, that EP never came out as a double, maybe you are confusing it with 
>one
>of the Subplate EP's?
>
>Martyn (DJ Destiny)
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Subject: (oldschool) Perth calling Krane...

You still around dude or have you been eaten by that 4000km road they call
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

on 3/4/02 1:35 PM, DJ Krane at djkrane@hotmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, Ive got the promo and its a 12", think Ive got the remix ep on promo
> too. Subplates promos were 2x10" and 12" official. Ive got a copy of
> subplates #1 which is silver vinyl limited 1000 press (mine = 199), anyone
> know if there were any colour vinyl presses of the other subplates?
> 
> Krane

Ive got Subplates 1 through to 4 and the LE of Subplates No.1 that you refer
to is the only one i've seen that is a different colour to black.

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Subject: (oldschool) [NOS?] UK Hard house w/ amen mashup

RA:
http://bangingtunes.com/getsample.asp?Sample=UKPOWER5&Format=REAL&Genre=HARD+HOUSE

MP3:
http://bangingtunes.com/getsample.asp?Sample=UKPOWER5&Format=MP3&Genre=HARD+HOUSE

cheesy synth line, but it's kinda neat, whaddya think?



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

Colin, you wanna sell these? I can provide a good home for them!!  ;)
Ian

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

on 3/4/02 1:35 PM, DJ Krane at djkrane@hotmail.com wrote:

> Yeah, Ive got the promo and its a 12", think Ive got the remix ep on
promo
> too. Subplates promos were 2x10" and 12" official. Ive got a copy of
> subplates #1 which is silver vinyl limited 1000 press (mine = 199),
anyone
> know if there were any colour vinyl presses of the other subplates?
> 
> Krane

Ive got Subplates 1 through to 4 and the LE of Subplates No.1 that you
refer
to is the only one i've seen that is a different colour to black.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flowers In The Garden

on 3/4/02 3:37 PM, Ian at iancs@ozemail.com.au wrote:

> Colin, you wanna sell these? I can provide a good home for them!!  ;)
> Ian

Sorry Ian... they are staying right where they are :) If you wanna catch up
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Subject: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc



Does anyone know or own any really old tapes, as in 88 - 89,

wait!
i know about the ones up on the tape trading sites already(pukka and tapes 
galore etc)
centerforce radio ones,the 4 or 5 hacienda ones from 89-91, rider / top buzz 
- war of the worlds,battle of djs, wbmx chicago radio ones, sasha @ rickys, 
etc

it would be good to find some live sets from 88 and 89, anything from Shoom, 
TRIP, HEAVEN, clink street (if thats what its called), Energy, BIOLOGY or 
Sunrise(yeah ive got that aug 89 one)

and maybe some recorded in IBIZA from 88 - 91

also fabio and groovriders RAGE club

ALSO just on another topic anyone got any mixes from fabio and ltj bukems 
old club "speed" from around 95 - 97 or when ever it was open

there MUST be somone out there that has at lease a few of these sort of 
recordings i think if we make the effort we could find some good stuff.

any infomation / thoughts / ideas etc welcome

dave t



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Thugged Out Bitch (4/4 DNB)

Rave station in London?? Hahahahaha Eruption FM then;-)
Whatever, is it available yet??

>  from:    DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>
>  date:    Wed, 03 Apr 2002 02:51:54
>  to:      oldschool@hyperreal.org, oldschool@hyperreal.org
>  subject: Re: (oldschool) Thugged Out Bitch (4/4 DNB)
> 
> 4/2/2002 8:51:08 PM, pukka <pukka@sprint.ca> wrote:
> 
> >its kiss 100 isnt it?? and that clip is from the rider show on radio 1 i
> >think
> 
> Wotever!
> 
> THAT RAVE STATION IN LONDON
> 
> lol
> 
> 
> 
> >DJ Entropy wrote:
> >> 
> >> Found an MP3 on AG (96 kbps, from Kiss 108):
> >> 
> >> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/Dillinja_-_Thugged_Out_Bitch.mp3
> >> 
> >> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com
> >> 
> >> good stuff indeed.
> >> 
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Subject: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE

CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE ARTIST AND TITLE FOR THIS TRACK?

ITS FROM JUNE 92 (THE TAPE I HAVE IT ON IS SIMON'BASSLINE'
SMITH AND DONOVAN'BAD BOY'SMITH FROM STERNS JUNE 92

THE TUNE STARTS OF WITH THIS WARPED TUNE, AND THE ONLY
LYRICS GOING THROUGH THE TUNE IS SOME WOMAN(IT SOUNDS AS IF
ITS ORIGINALLY FROM A TUNE IN THE 70'S) AND ALL SHE SINGS IS

'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'

AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH

ALSO, WHILE I THINK OF IT, THERE IS ANOTHER TUNE ON THIS
TAPE, WITHA BRILLIANT FLOATY PIANO TUNE, AND THE ONLY LYRICS
ARE

'IS THIS A DREAM OR REALITY' AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY
THROUGH THE PIANO BIT

HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE

Sounds like Love Decade - Is This A Dream
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> ALSO, WHILE I THINK OF IT, THERE IS ANOTHER TUNE ON THIS
> TAPE, WITHA BRILLIANT FLOATY PIANO TUNE, AND THE ONLY LYRICS
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Last one sounds like Love Decade - Dream On


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Subject: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE


CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE ARTIST AND TITLE FOR THIS TRACK?

ITS FROM JUNE 92 (THE TAPE I HAVE IT ON IS SIMON'BASSLINE' SMITH AND
DONOVAN'BAD BOY'SMITH FROM STERNS JUNE 92

THE TUNE STARTS OF WITH THIS WARPED TUNE, AND THE ONLY
LYRICS GOING THROUGH THE TUNE IS SOME WOMAN(IT SOUNDS AS IF
ITS ORIGINALLY FROM A TUNE IN THE 70'S) AND ALL SHE SINGS IS

'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'

AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH

ALSO, WHILE I THINK OF IT, THERE IS ANOTHER TUNE ON THIS
TAPE, WITHA BRILLIANT FLOATY PIANO TUNE, AND THE ONLY LYRICS ARE

'IS THIS A DREAM OR REALITY' AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY
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HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP


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> THE TUNE STARTS OF WITH THIS WARPED TUNE, AND THE ONLY
> LYRICS GOING THROUGH THE TUNE IS SOME WOMAN(IT SOUNDS AS IF
> ITS ORIGINALLY FROM A TUNE IN THE 70'S) AND ALL SHE SINGS IS
>=20
> 'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'
>=20

could be THC - Sunshine

which samples Roy Ayres

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) clarkee - useless fact i know and love to hang

DJ Android! What's this bloke like, picked up some of his tunes on Cluster 
and No Entry, not bad at all

>your email addy reminded me of it
>well that and i just got a IM message from Both
>Dj Scorched Earth and Dj android
>
>they love me AWWWWWWWWWWW
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Howdy Skister, ahreet??

Ive just got 5 gigs in Europe, mad Industrial Strength Tour, May 16th -
27th, Austria, France, Italy, Switzerland & Italy again.

Total mad, could only dream of things like this 7/8 years ago !!


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Bookings outside UK: chr@industrialstrengthrecords.com

*** FUELED BY HATE / Industrial Strength Tour - Part 1*** Butsfield Abbey,
Consett, County Durham, April 13th 2002
ROOM ONE: Lenny Dee, Jappo, Producer, La Peste, Total Output V Downtrodden,
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

And just to add a not very interesting fact..."Mokum" is what Jews called 
Amsterdam in WW2, I think it means haven or something like that...

>and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a logo
>on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
>facism"
>
>i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
>have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the music,
>but that's not the music's fault.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:12 PM
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>bette r....
>
>
> > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that matter)
> > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
>racism
> > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define 
>that
> > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > >
> > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
>"White
> > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there music...
> >
> > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in neo-nazi-ism"....which
>is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> >
> > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------
> > "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, 
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>by The Prodigy, 1992
> >
> > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
>ian@djentropy.com
> >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
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> >       Animators of Intensity info:  
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Euro Smash

Eh?

Totally wrong e mail adress there like

> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:38 PM
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> Subject: (oldschool) Euro Smash
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> Howdy Skister, ahreet??
>
> Ive just got 5 gigs in Europe, mad Industrial Strength Tour, May 16th -
> 27th, Austria, France, Italy, Switzerland & Italy again.
>
> Total mad, could only dream of things like this 7/8 years ago !!
>
>
> ----------
> Smurf (Newcastle, UK)
> http://www.GeordieGabbaMafia.org
> Strike / Killout / Hard of Hearing Records
> ICQ - 81741527
> Bookings outside UK: chr@industrialstrengthrecords.com
>
> *** FUELED BY HATE / Industrial Strength Tour - Part 1*** Butsfield Abbey,
> Consett, County Durham, April 13th 2002
> ROOM ONE: Lenny Dee, Jappo, Producer, La Peste, Total Output V
> Downtrodden,
> Smurf, UEP, Armaged:DON, Toddy
> ROOM TWO: Lenny Dee (techno set), Pete Wallis, Mark Outermission &
> Trapmaster S, Raoul & Yeti, Terraform, DJ ET, Funsize Johnny
>
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Subject: (oldschool) basement reprresses!!!

Yes! They're re-issuing the basement back-catalogue! That's
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IMO DEBATE

hope your not trying to say that it was me?


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>Aarghhhhh not me:-) I have never ordered off IMO yet tho so have no problem 
>with them:-)
>That's me covered;-)
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Paul Waight wrote:
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> And just to add a not very interesting fact..."Mokum" is what Jews called
> Amsterdam in WW2, I think it means haven or something like that...

Issit? I was told that Mokum means 'hammer'.
Hmzmz

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Subject: (oldschool) Dreamscape (Woodstock) flyers / Flyer trading

Does anyone know values of flyers? I once found a site where they were
changing hands for crazy amounts of cash.
Someone wants to buy an ESP Woodstock flyer off me but I dont really know if
its worth anything?
Woodstock was the event that got cancelled, Ive got 2 huge flyers from it.
They are both the same apart from one having an MTV Dance logo on the front.
Ive never seen another MTV one, anyone else get this?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IMO DEBATE

who was it then?


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> > i have just found out that someone on this list gave IMO all of our 
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> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) basement reprresses!!!

WOOHOO! (homer simson style)

Chris :)


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Subject: (oldschool) RAREST RONI SIZE TRUST ME ON EBAY

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=854330031

Any of you lot watching this ready to pounce at the end, think twice!
Hes listed it as an unreleased copy when really its just half of the Reasons
for sharing EP
The label scan has just been darkened, I checked it against mine and its
exactly the same.

Coning fucker.......

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my woodstock flyer doesnt have the MTV Logo

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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

WHHHHHHHHHHAT?

> RTC did 3 songs one was called White Race another was Arian Nation and the
> last one was called Sig Hial my Furur
>
> weather or not if one guy is black and the other dude is white the songs
> they did still exisit
>
>
> >From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
> >bette r....
> >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:20:03 -0500
> >
> >rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
> >mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
> >and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.
> >
> >and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a
logo
> >on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
> >facism"
> >
> >i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is neo-nazi, and
> >have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like the music,
> >but that's not the music's fault.
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
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> >
> > > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that
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> > > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was founded on
> >racism
> > > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define
> >that
> > > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > > >
> > > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
> >"White
> > > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there
music...
> > >
> > > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in
neo-nazi-ism"....which
> >is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> > >
> > > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------
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> > >
> > > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Euro Smash

LOL u spaztech


> Eh?
>
> Totally wrong e mail adress there like
>
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:38 PM
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> > Subject: (oldschool) Euro Smash
> >
> >
> > Howdy Skister, ahreet??
> >
> > Ive just got 5 gigs in Europe, mad Industrial Strength Tour, May 16th -
> > 27th, Austria, France, Italy, Switzerland & Italy again.
> >
> > Total mad, could only dream of things like this 7/8 years ago !!
> >
> >
> > ----------
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> > http://www.GeordieGabbaMafia.org
> > Strike / Killout / Hard of Hearing Records
> > ICQ - 81741527
> > Bookings outside UK: chr@industrialstrengthrecords.com
> >
> > *** FUELED BY HATE / Industrial Strength Tour - Part 1*** Butsfield
Abbey,
> > Consett, County Durham, April 13th 2002
> > ROOM ONE: Lenny Dee, Jappo, Producer, La Peste, Total Output V
> > Downtrodden,
> > Smurf, UEP, Armaged:DON, Toddy
> > ROOM TWO: Lenny Dee (techno set), Pete Wallis, Mark Outermission &
> > Trapmaster S, Raoul & Yeti, Terraform, DJ ET, Funsize Johnny
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

Hmmm, maybe it means "Paul is misinformed" then!

> > And just to add a not very interesting fact..."Mokum" is what Jews 
>called
> > Amsterdam in WW2, I think it means haven or something like that...
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>Issit? I was told that Mokum means 'hammer'.
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

i heard mokum is the jewish part of amsterdam
it hads a logo of a hammer on the logo/sleaves though!!

> Hmmm, maybe it means "Paul is misinformed" then!
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc

let me know if you find any!!!!!!!! been after those 2

dave t wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know or own any really old tapes, as in 88 - 89,
> 
> wait!
> i know about the ones up on the tape trading sites already(pukka and tapes
> galore etc)
> centerforce radio ones,the 4 or 5 hacienda ones from 89-91, rider / top buzz
> - war of the worlds,battle of djs, wbmx chicago radio ones, sasha @ rickys,
> etc
> 
> it would be good to find some live sets from 88 and 89, anything from Shoom,
> TRIP, HEAVEN, clink street (if thats what its called), Energy, BIOLOGY or
> Sunrise(yeah ive got that aug 89 one)
> 
> and maybe some recorded in IBIZA from 88 - 91
> 
> also fabio and groovriders RAGE club
> 
> ALSO just on another topic anyone got any mixes from fabio and ltj bukems
> old club "speed" from around 95 - 97 or when ever it was open
> 
> there MUST be somone out there that has at lease a few of these sort of
> recordings i think if we make the effort we could find some good stuff.
> 
> any infomation / thoughts / ideas etc welcome
> 
> dave t
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Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

> THIS is AWESOME.

you know that. and u know the score

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> 4/2/2002 9:03:16 AM, "sherwin rice" <sherwin.rice@fernhart.com> wrote:
>
> >http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm
>
> WIKKED tune.
>
> Goldie played a 4/4 tune when I saw him too, different than this.
>
>
>
>
> ------------
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) THE RETURN OF THE KICKDRUM TO DNB

yeah
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> eh lex you post on the dnb arena forum to right under let me guess lex?
>
> lex wrote:
> >
> > destiny if u come telepathy on Sunday and heard this dropped 4 times
along
> > with some other dillinja tunes and felt the vibe u wouldn't be saying
that
> > its shit.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.org>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 2:06 PM
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> >
> > > http://WWW.staticdnb.co.uk/RM/thugedb.rm
> > >
> > > You got to give it to Dillinja, he can consistantly churn out totally
> > shit!
> > >
> > > Martyn (DJ Destiny)
> > > ICQ:     101942966
> > > Site:     www.kikit.org
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Thugged Out Bitch (4/4 DNB)

when i heard this thugged out bitch being dropped in telepathy 3 times on
Sunday night at the Ministry of Sound it sounded disgusting......anyone
doubting it, just wait till you hear it out in  rave.
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> Found an MP3 on AG (96 kbps, from Kiss 108):
>
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/Dillinja_-_Thugged_Out_Bitch.mp3
>
> http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com
>
> good stuff indeed.
>
>
>
> ------------
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Advertising rules

>> how much did that cost?
>=20
> $15 USD per 1000 impressions.
>=20
> You choose the search words, or phrases, and then set a dollar limit that=
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> want to spend.  I chose "old skool" and $20, so the first 1,250 people th=
at
> search for "old skool" in
> Google will see that ad.  It's cheaper if someone else has the same phras=
e
> already.
>=20
>> http://www.google.com/search?q=3Dold+skool&sourceid=3Dopera&num=3D0&ie=3Dutf-8&o=
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>> -8


rotflmfao ha ha ha ha

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Subject: (oldschool) SHADOW trades


Just got these direct from Si/2 Bad(Mice) ...in mint/unplayed condition !

Shadow3 - 2 Bad Mice - 2 Bad Mice/No Respect

Shadow45 - Renegade - Something I feel/Terrorist



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE

> 'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'

Most probably is : A guy called Gerald - Sunshine - Juice Box recs (1992)

Have a listen hear to confirm it or not :

http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/melody/214/oldarc.html

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Subject: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE


> CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE ARTIST AND TITLE FOR THIS TRACK?
>
> ITS FROM JUNE 92 (THE TAPE I HAVE IT ON IS SIMON'BASSLINE'
> SMITH AND DONOVAN'BAD BOY'SMITH FROM STERNS JUNE 92
>
> THE TUNE STARTS OF WITH THIS WARPED TUNE, AND THE ONLY
> LYRICS GOING THROUGH THE TUNE IS SOME WOMAN(IT SOUNDS AS IF
> ITS ORIGINALLY FROM A TUNE IN THE 70'S) AND ALL SHE SINGS IS
>
> 'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'
>
> AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH
>
> ALSO, WHILE I THINK OF IT, THERE IS ANOTHER TUNE ON THIS
> TAPE, WITHA BRILLIANT FLOATY PIANO TUNE, AND THE ONLY LYRICS
> ARE
>
> 'IS THIS A DREAM OR REALITY' AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY
> THROUGH THE PIANO BIT
>
> HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP
>
>
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Subject: RE: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows bette r....

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Al Innes [mailto:al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:22 PM
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone who knows
> bette r....
>
>
> WHHHHHHHHHHAT?
>
> > RTC did 3 songs one was called White Race another was Arian
> Nation and the
> > last one was called Sig Hial my Furur
> >
> > weather or not if one guy is black and the other dude is white the songs
> > they did still exisit
> >
> >
> > >From: "Adam" <adamcr@rogers.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone
> who knows
> > >bette r....
> > >Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 19:20:03 -0500
> > >
> > >rotterdam terror corps has nothing to do with white power since the
> > >mc/singer from that groups IS BLACK!
> > >and the main producer, dj panic, is a jolly fat white guy.
> > >
> > >and mokum records, one of the BIGGEST gabber labels of all time, has a
> logo
> > >on each of their releases that says "United gabbers against racism and
> > >facism"
> > >
> > >i'd like someone to point out an example of gabber that is
> neo-nazi, and
> > >have a basis to prove it on. maybe some of the neo-nazi's like
> the music,
> > >but that's not the music's fault.
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "DJ Entropy" <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:12 PM
> > >Subject: Re: RE: (oldschool) just a little lesson from someone
> who knows
> > >bette r....
> > >
> > >
> > > > 4/2/2002 1:08:59 PM, "Rich- E" <dj2fu@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>Also, it should be noted that though gabber (and Oi!, for that
> matter)
> > > > >> >definitelyhave neo-nazi factions, neither movement was
> founded on
> > >racism
> > > > >>in any way.Using a small, radical subgroup of a movement to define
> > >that
> > > > >>movement is silly and unfair.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rotterdam Terror Corp!!! those boi's are fucking mental on some the
> > >"White
> > > > >Power" songs but its still just a very small section of there
> music...
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and what I said is "some gabber is rooted in
> neo-nazi-ism"....which
> > >is true.......SOME is.  Not ALL.  SOME.
> > > >
> > > > SOME does not equal ALL.  ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ------------
> > > > "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's,
> > >sampled
> > >by The Prodigy, 1992
> > > >
> > > > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> > >ian@djentropy.com
> > > >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> > >boston)
> > > >       Animators of Intensity info:
> > >http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> > > >   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) basement reprresses!!!

right, after the yees sweeeeet (cartman stylee)
where can these be purchased from?
and are all of them being done?

rob


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>WOOHOO! (homer simson style)
>
>Chris :)
>
>
>Darren wrote:
> >
> > Yes! They're re-issuing the basement back-catalogue! That's
> > just saved me a helluva lot of money...thank God.
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) clarkee - useless fact i know and love to hang

Android is a great guy fucking mental behind the decks...
one of my best friends but a bitch to deal with when high he tripps me out 
way too much lol


>From: "Paul Waight" <zykotik@hotmail.com>
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>Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 11:13:39
>
>DJ Android! What's this bloke like, picked up some of his tunes on Cluster
>and No Entry, not bad at all
>
>>your email addy reminded me of it
>>well that and i just got a IM message from Both
>>Dj Scorched Earth and Dj android
>>
>>they love me AWWWWWWWWWWW
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: (oldschool) ragga jungle tune ids

http://walrus.darkscape.net/rj1.rm
http://walrus.darkscape.net/rj2.rm

any help is much appreciated :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE

i know this isnt what was asked, but the vocal is from Roy Ayers' "Everybody
Loves the Sunshine", one of my favorite old jazz/funk tunes. the guy called
gerald track is only okay, IMO.

tom

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----- Original Message -----
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> > 'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'
>
> Most probably is : A guy called Gerald - Sunshine - Juice Box recs (1992)
>
> Have a listen hear to confirm it or not :
>
> http://tinpan.fortunecity.com/melody/214/oldarc.html
>
> (its near the bottom in the hardcore classics setion, you'll have to "save
> target as" to download)
>
> Cheers!
>
> Hardcore - U Know the Score
> http://www.hardscore.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "andymac1880" <andymac1880@vizzavi.net>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:35 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) TUNE ID FROM JULY 92 PLEASE
>
>
> > CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE ARTIST AND TITLE FOR THIS TRACK?
> >
> > ITS FROM JUNE 92 (THE TAPE I HAVE IT ON IS SIMON'BASSLINE'
> > SMITH AND DONOVAN'BAD BOY'SMITH FROM STERNS JUNE 92
> >
> > THE TUNE STARTS OF WITH THIS WARPED TUNE, AND THE ONLY
> > LYRICS GOING THROUGH THE TUNE IS SOME WOMAN(IT SOUNDS AS IF
> > ITS ORIGINALLY FROM A TUNE IN THE 70'S) AND ALL SHE SINGS IS
> >
> > 'MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE,MY LIFE, IN THE SUNSHINE'
> >
> > AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY THROUGH
> >
> > ALSO, WHILE I THINK OF IT, THERE IS ANOTHER TUNE ON THIS
> > TAPE, WITHA BRILLIANT FLOATY PIANO TUNE, AND THE ONLY LYRICS
> > ARE
> >
> > 'IS THIS A DREAM OR REALITY' AND THATS IT ALL THE WAY
> > THROUGH THE PIANO BIT
> >
> > HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP
> >
> >
> > ANDY
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) clarkee - useless fact i know and love to hang




>From: "DJ Krane" <djkrane@hotmail.com>
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>
>>The Club i visit every weekend is called Area 51
>>on 517 King st in toronto
>
>which reminds me of something. I think it was adelaide, or maybe melbourne,
>but probly adelaide. and the guy who was showing me all the local clubs 
>said
>this one used to be area 51, its 3 storeys high and quite cool, I really
>cant imagine adelaide being a gabba techno place (possibly why its not area
>51 anymore!?!) but the fella said he thinks it had something to do with 
>your
>label.
>
>True, false, or drunken bullshit?
>
>Krane


drunken bull shit, the club is in a basement you have to go threw alot of 
shit to get there its a very Open door policy there too...alot of private 
parties are held there these days alot olskool ravers party there the wikked 
thing about it is the location there is no numbers on the door you have to 
look for something specific to find it...then look in the corner of the door 
and enter there its really wikked  adelaide isnt a gabba or techno area at 
all...the Gabba area of TO is none exisitent unless your dark raving it or 
your at the Underground Resisitense Parties but there hasnt been one of 
those in a long time...also Orbiatal Stations there fun but ya DRUNKEN BULL 
SHIT

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Thugged Out Bitch (4/4 DNB)

I Love this...

i dunno it sounds like an anthem too me
i had alot of my friends listen to it yeasterday when they were here and 
they loved it too


> > Found an MP3 on AG (96 kbps, from Kiss 108):
> >
> > http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com/Dillinja_-_Thugged_Out_Bitch.mp3
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> > http://djentropy.home.mindspring.com
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> Just got these direct from Si/2 Bad(Mice) ...in mint/unplayed condition !
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> Shadow3 - 2 Bad Mice - 2 Bad Mice/No Respect


did he sign it?


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At 19:16 03/04/02 +0100, you wrote:
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>did he sign it?

Damn - should have asked shouldn't i !!


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Subject: (oldschool) Quick website update

Hi people...

If anyone has links to my website (Wizbit's Old School) can you 
please update them to:

http://www.wizbit.org/

Sorry for spamming the list, but I thought this was the easiest way 
to tell everyone! :)

There are still some unknowns to ID and other bits have been slightly updated.

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> >did he sign it?
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> Damn - should have asked shouldn't i !!

Sh*te... should have got mine signed too !! =((



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> At 19:16 03/04/02 +0100, you wrote:
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> Damn - should have asked shouldn't i !!
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Subject: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6235#6235


you heard it here first,
well not quite ;o)

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) basement reprresses!!!

when you refer to "they" you mean some bottom feeding money grabbing wanker
bootleg off a scratch piece of vinyl bastard I take it - from what I here
they ain't proper presses from Basement - can anyone confirm?

Steve
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Yes! They're re-issuing the basement back-catalogue! That's
just saved me a helluva lot of money...thank God.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

So when's it coming out??  It's a damn good EP!

Robin
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> http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6235#6235
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4/3/2002 2:22:27 PM, "M@xxViNyL" <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> wrote:

>http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6235#6235

tWiSt's tune is pretty solid, kinda deep for my tastes usually, but good.

AlienEye's tune is wacky and weird, I dig it, I want to hear a longer clip.

Dave's tune is WIKKED as fuck, I remember this from the compo.

Ectopic's tune is wikked as well, I've heard this before, good stuff.  I LOVE the breakbeat used in this one.


I can't wait for this to come out!  What's the expected date?



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Subject: (oldschool) funny story from DJ Sy pasted from Matt's website

Being the boisterous nutter that I was back then, when a
£100,000 Bentley turbo cut me up on the A3 on the way back
from Portsmouth one night whilst I was driving a Sapphire
Cosworth chipped to 350 bhp with Terry Turbo (not the most
gentile person you're ever going to meet) in the back, and
when the said Bentley was overtaken and beaten round the
tight bends of the A3, the driver understandably got rather
annoyed at the fact that his car (worth more than a 3 bed
semi) was beaten by a Ford, and decided to drive like a
wanker up my arse. So, Mr. Turbo thought that to offload
some fireworks (which he had conveniently brought along for
the occasion - it was Bonfire Night) in his direction might
deter him from driving so close to my rear bumper. And he
was quite correct in his assumption; however, about 1/2 mile
further on, the driver of a police patrol car, who had been
informed by the Bentley driver of a series of bangers and
rockets exploding under and around his car, disagreed, and
we were cautioned appropriately. 

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Subject: (oldschool) The genres finally make a full crossover!!!!!!!!!!

RYDER, Mark "Ruff" & MIKEY JAMES feat MC PARA: Renegade (d&b remixes) (Strictly Underground) (ASF) (MP3) - Drum & Bass
2": Renegade (drum & bass remix, "Where's Para Gone?" remix) (STUR2KR 010) [5.80] - add

http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF92748.mp3


THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME.



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) basement reprresses!!!

on 4/3/02 1:42 PM, DJ Moody at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com stated:

> - from what I here
> they ain't proper presses from Basement - can anyone confirm?


i don't know... but i do know that the owners of Basement threw out STACKS
of original copies that were in their store room. Apparently they had tons
of vinyl left over from almost every release they ever had. Dumped
everything in the trash...


that's fucking sad. =(


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Subject: (oldschool) Motherfuckin' basement represses boy!!!

If you goto the forthcoming release section at Chemical
records, amongst others you'll find these beauties:

Forthcoming Drum & Bass 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 

This page is for your information only. The tracks on here
are not in stock yet...

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BRSSCL3

Kev bird & Wax Doctor Presents A Visit To 14B - Dark Matter
/ Airspace
Basement Records Classics [PROMO] - White
 



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BRSSCL4

Mayhem - Damage / Metrix
Basement Records Classics [PROMO] - White
 


 


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BRSSCL5

Rush Til Dawn Present The Hedgehog Affair - Oh My God Im A
DJ / We Told You
Basement Records Classics [PROMO] - White
 


 

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BRSSCL2

Rush Til Sawn Present The Hedgehog Affair - Second Rush /
Sounds Of House
Basement Records Classics [PROMO] - White
 


 

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CWBC002

Wax Doctor / Fallen Angels - Cool Breeze / Frequency [Tango
VIP]
Creative Wax Classics [PROMO] - White
 


 

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BRSCCL1

Wax Doctor - New Direction / Herbal Tekno
Basement Records Classics [PROMO] - White
 


 



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V037

Dillinja - Grimey / 12inch Flares / Take My Life / Pluto
V Recordings - [PROMO] - White
 



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KAOS001

Adam F & J Majik - Metrosound
Kaos [PROMO] - White
 


 



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Subject: (oldschool) NEED EXODUS BY REBEL MC

Anyone know of, or have a copy of Exodus remix by Rebel Mc
???????????????????????????

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) funny story from DJ Sy pasted from Matt's
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Hahah - class!!

Reminds me of the time(November 5th a few years back),me and a couple of 
mates were driving back from town along the A40,having bought a load of gun 
shot simulators/bird scarers (basically lengths of slow burning fuse with 
"wizz-bangs" attached at evenly spaced intervals). We were caught in 
traffic around White city where the traffic usually starts after the end of 
the elevated section,and being a bit bored,we cut up the fuse with a key 
(tough stuff,and we didn't have a knife!) and let loose with 2 or 3 of them 
on the rode side verge.

30 minutes later,having taken a detour to avoid the worst of the 
traffic,i'm within sight of my home,and van full of un-amused looking 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

release dt: 

err err end of the month

fingers cross ;o)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) The genres finally make a full crossover!!!!!!!!!!

>RYDER, Mark "Ruff" & MIKEY JAMES feat MC PARA: Renegade (d&b 
>remixes) (Strictly Underground) (ASF) (MP3) - Drum & Bass
>2": Renegade (drum & bass remix, "Where's Para Gone?" remix) 
>(STUR2KR 010) [5.80] - add
>
>http://217.158.65.110/MP3/SF92748.mp3
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>THIS IS FUCKING AWESOME.

Cool as ****! Anyone got a longer clip? ;)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

Hoorah.  Who's actually releasing it?  All of them together?

Robin
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> release dt: 
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> err err end of the month
> 
> fingers cross ;o)
> 
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> Hoorah.  Who's actually releasing it?  All of them together?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) SHADOW trades

> > >did he sign it?
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> > Damn - should have asked shouldn't i !!
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> Sh*te... should have got mine signed too !! =((

i would hav thought, 
thats the first thing to ask, LOL


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NEED EXODUS BY REBEL MC

do you mean ZION 001? ive got it and i would definitely trade it. 

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> Anyone know of, or have a copy of Exodus remix by Rebel Mc
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ragga jungle tune ids

don't know them specifically but they are dfinitely some kind of later Congo 
Natty / Zion / Knowledge & Wisdom biz, probably 97-99 - if you like that you 
should check out their early stuff from 93-95 - Conquering Lion, X Project

cheers

Liam


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>http://walrus.darkscape.net/rj1.rm
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>any help is much appreciated :)
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Who is the originator of the fire vocal in Prodigy's Fire? I heard it on
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The Doors, i think.....


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NEED EXODUS BY REBEL MC

is that kindread spirit remix??????
basically bob marley - exodus 
just faster ...
like the one the Exodus Crew Played from luton

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thats very sad ??
why just dump it ??could have given em to me
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> on 4/3/02 1:42 PM, DJ Moody at s.lillicrap@btinternet.com stated:
>
> > - from what I here
> > they ain't proper presses from Basement - can anyone confirm?
>
>
> i don't know... but i do know that the owners of Basement threw out STACKS
> of original copies that were in their store room. Apparently they had tons
> of vinyl left over from almost every release they ever had. Dumped
> everything in the trash...
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> that's fucking sad. =(
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on 4/3/02 4:17 PM, wotisgoingon at wotisgoingon@hotmail.com stated:

> thats very sad ??
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no, to me!  ;)



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Subject: (oldschool) Holy crap!!

Glad you posted your URL to the list Wizbit. I just
ID'ed probably another of my all time favs!

Sub Love "She Moves" Earth Records 07   mmmmm ;o)

Now to track down a copy! Anyone ????

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Holy crap!!

got a copy of 
earth6 - sublove - one by one ep for sale though if any1 is after it

> Glad you posted your URL to the list Wizbit. I just
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Mickey Finn - Amnesia House - The Book Of Love - 27/6/1992

The one with the Prodigy PA on it........


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

Absolute bull...there's plenty of amazing stuff out there that deserves to
be on vinyl, but likely never will be, likely will never have a chance to
be, because of where the artist lives, or what style of music they do, or
numerous other factors. That, in fact, is why I started DNE Productions
(well, as a label anyway...I initially started it planning to throw a
rave). Unfortunately, we don't currently have the budget to release stuff
on vinyl, even though we have some amazing material, and even some by
well-known artists (like Analog Pussy).

And that's something that holds many tracks back from getting on vinyl, no
matter how good they are.

As for marketing to labels, well labels are cliques, consisting either of
a tight-knit group of artists, or a group of artists with a similar sound.

So if you have a different sound, you probably have little chance of
getting in with any of the more established labels...your only choices
then are project labels, and small independent labels like DNE
Productions.


> man, i've heard some severe crap on vinyl.. if something really spectacular
> isn't on vinyl, it's because the artist either doesn't want it on vinyl, or
> is a stupid shit who can't market himself to labels and his tunes don't
> deserve to be on vinyl anyway.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Ye Olde Skool" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; "M@xxViNyL"
> <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:26 PM
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> 
> 
> > 4/1/2002 12:18:45 PM, "M@xxViNyL" <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Since the rave scene starting realizing that being a vinyl/acetate
> purist
> > >> is ridiculously expensive and wasteful.
> > >
> > >eeer it's only expensive, if ya don't know wot ya doing,
> > >or very impulsive, when ya see a toon ya after
> > >and are will to pay silly money for it.
> > >
> > >it just the sign of the times.
> >
> > I'm not an advocate of getting rid of vinyl, I'm simply a realist that
> realizes there are many good things out there that will never see vinyl
> because of finacial reasons, but they
> > should be heard!
> >
> > ------------
> > "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
> by The Prodigy, 1992
> >
> > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> ian@djentropy.com
> >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> boston)
> >       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> >   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
> >      Register to vote NOW:
> http://www.bostonvote.org/registertovote/register_to_vote.html
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> >     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
> >                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
> >         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.
> Educate the
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Entropy's Top 15 for April

However, you are correct that a lot of complete shite gets pressed on
vinyl...having stuff pressed on vinyl has very little to do with how good
it is...it's all about  the dollars/pounds.


> man, i've heard some severe crap on vinyl.. if something really spectacular
> isn't on vinyl, it's because the artist either doesn't want it on vinyl, or
> is a stupid shit who can't market himself to labels and his tunes don't
> deserve to be on vinyl anyway.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Ye Olde Skool" <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; "M@xxViNyL"
> <ardcoredj@hotmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 3:26 PM
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> 
> 
> > 4/1/2002 12:18:45 PM, "M@xxViNyL" <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> Since the rave scene starting realizing that being a vinyl/acetate
> purist
> > >> is ridiculously expensive and wasteful.
> > >
> > >eeer it's only expensive, if ya don't know wot ya doing,
> > >or very impulsive, when ya see a toon ya after
> > >and are will to pay silly money for it.
> > >
> > >it just the sign of the times.
> >
> > I'm not an advocate of getting rid of vinyl, I'm simply a realist that
> realizes there are many good things out there that will never see vinyl
> because of finacial reasons, but they
> > should be heard!
> >
> > ------------
> > "I'll take your brain to another dimension!" - Ultramagnetic MC's, sampled
> by The Prodigy, 1992
> >
> > Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy
> ian@djentropy.com
> >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> boston)
> >       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> >   Ian Entropy Scott for LP State Rep in 2003:
> http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/staterep.html
> >      Register to vote NOW:
> http://www.bostonvote.org/registertovote/register_to_vote.html
> >          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> >     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
> >                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
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> Educate the
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Holy crap!!

I just sold one an hour ago!!!!!!!

Steve
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Glad you posted your URL to the list Wizbit. I just
ID'ed probably another of my all time favs!

Sub Love "She Moves" Earth Records 07   mmmmm ;o)

Now to track down a copy! Anyone ????

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Holy crap!!

scrap the last message the guy bought Earth05 I still have Earth 07 which
I'll sell for £10 - recorded UK delivery is £2.50 (sorry about extra 50p but
all new packaging etc).

Drop me a line if you interested

Cheers

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Glad you posted your URL to the list Wizbit. I just
ID'ed probably another of my all time favs!

Sub Love "She Moves" Earth Records 07   mmmmm ;o)

Now to track down a copy! Anyone ????

Matt B


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Perth calling Krane...

Nah, still around fella. I did the amazing train journey, sod 4000km in a 
clapped out lazer lol.
I still have your number but I was getting wasted every night for the last 6 
weeks so I have come down to margeret river to chill out, surf, look at 
girls, and generally be healthy. Last night I was in a tae kwon doe class of 
all places.
Definately gonna give you a ring when I get back to Perth which is probly 
gonna be 2-4 weeks. wikkidy

Krane

>You still around dude or have you been eaten by that 4000km road they call
>the Nullabor?
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Holy crap!!

awawaaa she with the moves with the music, awaaaa she  moves with the
music...  c'mon get up!!!


not  a chance!!!

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> Glad you posted your URL to the list Wizbit. I just
> ID'ed probably another of my all time favs!
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> Sub Love "She Moves" Earth Records 07   mmmmm ;o)
>
> Now to track down a copy! Anyone ????
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> Matt B
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NEED EXODUS BY REBEL MC

Think Ive got it, if its the one in the red and green sleeve. wikkid tune.

>Anyone know of, or have a copy of Exodus remix by Rebel Mc
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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool madness


Moody mate, just checked out your site for the first time.

Wicked stuff!
can't wait to check out the tape rips when I get home from work

keep it up =0)

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>awawaaa she with the moves with the music, awaaaa she  moves with the
>music...  c'mon get up!!!

Useless fact:
The "C'mon, get up" is sampled from Return of the Jedi. :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

That EP is wicked, and Mr Curran I was gonna rip that tune, damn I always
get beaten to it, mind you I would never have done such a good job of it :)

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> http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6235#6235
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'The Crazy World of Arthur Brown' ;)

http://www.ombomb.org/psych/cwoab.html

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Who is the originator of the fire vocal in Prodigy's Fire? I heard it on
the TV advert. But I can't remember.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

Really?

Interesting :)

Robin
www.djardee.co.uk

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> > Hoorah.  Who's actually releasing it?  All of them together?
> 
> moi
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc

Me too!! it would be amazin to hear a tape from clink street or anything 
from spin-masters, nipper or thunderdome in Manchester.
although I doubt you'll ever find any.

cheers
Mucky

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>let me know if you find any!!!!!!!! been after those 2
>
>dave t wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know or own any really old tapes, as in 88 - 89,
> >
> > wait!
> > i know about the ones up on the tape trading sites already(pukka and 
>tapes
> > galore etc)
> > centerforce radio ones,the 4 or 5 hacienda ones from 89-91, rider / top 
>buzz
> > - war of the worlds,battle of djs, wbmx chicago radio ones, sasha @ 
>rickys,
> > etc
> >
> > it would be good to find some live sets from 88 and 89, anything from 
>Shoom,
> > TRIP, HEAVEN, clink street (if thats what its called), Energy, BIOLOGY 
>or
> > Sunrise(yeah ive got that aug 89 one)
> >
> > and maybe some recorded in IBIZA from 88 - 91
> >
> > also fabio and groovriders RAGE club
> >
> > ALSO just on another topic anyone got any mixes from fabio and ltj 
>bukems
> > old club "speed" from around 95 - 97 or when ever it was open
> >
> > there MUST be somone out there that has at lease a few of these sort of
> > recordings i think if we make the effort we could find some good stuff.
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ragga jungle tune ids

i'm fairly sure the first one is by Congo Natty.  not sure tune name though.

Jon

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> http://walrus.darkscape.net/rj1.rm
> http://walrus.darkscape.net/rj2.rm
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album

heh I had a similar idea.  I've made a couple of punk style (remones, saints 
stylee) tunes but with oldskool Roland synths instead of electric guitars, 
my nephew plays the drums but the problem is its a bastard to record drums 
properly and I'll never afford studio time.  So I'm after a drum recording 
kit.  I'm still lacking the pissed up cockney to 'sing' and write lyrics 
too.. heh.

mine arn't remix's but yeah it sounds interesting when or if I get it 
together I'll send you some stuff if yer interested.

cheers
Mucky

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>
>Ok, so I have this idea.
>
>I want to do an album that is all remixes of classic punk and maybe 
>hardcorerock tunes.  I think it could be really interesting, and I was 
>wondering if anyone would be interested in
>doing something for it.
>
>I don't have a lot of money, so I can't really "release" anything on a 
>large scale, but maybe an MP3 download site, and some CDRs that people 
>could burn on their own and
>sell/hand out.  Unless people wanted to pool their resources and actually 
>release a CD with art and the like.
>
>But yeah, what do people think about this?
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc


yesterday i found a guestbook message from somone who said he had acid house 
tapes from "playas bar in tennereife 88" but the fucking email address was 
rejected when i mailed him. the search continues :)

dave t

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>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>
>Me too!! it would be amazin to hear a tape from clink street or anything
>from spin-masters, nipper or thunderdome in Manchester.
>although I doubt you'll ever find any.
>
>cheers
>Mucky
>
>>From: pukka <pukka@sprint.ca>
>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc
>>Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 08:03:37 -0500
>>
>>let me know if you find any!!!!!!!! been after those 2
>>
>>dave t wrote:
>> >
>> > Does anyone know or own any really old tapes, as in 88 - 89,
>> >
>> > wait!
>> > i know about the ones up on the tape trading sites already(pukka and
>>tapes
>> > galore etc)
>> > centerforce radio ones,the 4 or 5 hacienda ones from 89-91, rider / top
>>buzz
>> > - war of the worlds,battle of djs, wbmx chicago radio ones, sasha @
>>rickys,
>> > etc
>> >
>> > it would be good to find some live sets from 88 and 89, anything from
>>Shoom,
>> > TRIP, HEAVEN, clink street (if thats what its called), Energy, BIOLOGY
>>or
>> > Sunrise(yeah ive got that aug 89 one)
>> >
>> > and maybe some recorded in IBIZA from 88 - 91
>> >
>> > also fabio and groovriders RAGE club
>> >
>> > ALSO just on another topic anyone got any mixes from fabio and ltj
>>bukems
>> > old club "speed" from around 95 - 97 or when ever it was open
>> >
>> > there MUST be somone out there that has at lease a few of these sort of
>> > recordings i think if we make the effort we could find some good stuff.
>> >
>> > any infomation / thoughts / ideas etc welcome
>> >
>> > dave t
>> >
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is it the one on Tuff Gong  - Rebel MC Kindred Spirits mix??

If it is are u up for selling trading it??



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc

i can get 1 hacienda one from early 90


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>Subject: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc
>Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 08:43:47 +0000
>
>
>
>Does anyone know or own any really old tapes, as in 88 - 89,
>
>wait!
>i know about the ones up on the tape trading sites already(pukka and tapes
>galore etc)
>centerforce radio ones,the 4 or 5 hacienda ones from 89-91, rider / top 
>buzz
>- war of the worlds,battle of djs, wbmx chicago radio ones, sasha @ rickys,
>etc
>
>it would be good to find some live sets from 88 and 89, anything from 
>Shoom,
>TRIP, HEAVEN, clink street (if thats what its called), Energy, BIOLOGY or
>Sunrise(yeah ive got that aug 89 one)
>
>and maybe some recorded in IBIZA from 88 - 91
>
>also fabio and groovriders RAGE club
>
>ALSO just on another topic anyone got any mixes from fabio and ltj bukems
>old club "speed" from around 95 - 97 or when ever it was open
>
>there MUST be somone out there that has at lease a few of these sort of
>recordings i think if we make the effort we could find some good stuff.
>
>any infomation / thoughts / ideas etc welcome
>
>dave t
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) oLdSkOoL da nUSkOoL - pOpTaRtZ eP

I do like those twist and alien eye tunes.
I'll have to post my old school inspired drum n bass tune tommorow.

cheers
Mucky

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>http://www.b2vos.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=6235#6235
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>you heard it here first,
>well not quite ;o)
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whoooooo im in slot 6!!!

"M@xxViNyL" wrote:
> 
> >> how much did that cost?
> >
> > $15 USD per 1000 impressions.
> >
> > You choose the search words, or phrases, and then set a dollar limit that you
> > want to spend.  I chose "old skool" and $20, so the first 1,250 people that
> > search for "old skool" in
> > Google will see that ad.  It's cheaper if someone else has the same phrase
> > already.
> >
> >> http://www.google.com/search?q=old+skool&sourceid=opera&num=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf
> >> -8
> 
> rotflmfao ha ha ha ha
> 
> i'm on the same page,
> and didn't cost me anything ;o)
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does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day, and i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill pay for them let me know

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video

speaking of altern-8.
went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite but
altern-8: what a scam

2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front of
them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
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an average breakdancer.

dont belive the hype.

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so they've not changed then ;)

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speaking of altern-8.
went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite
but
altern-8: what a scam

2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on
front of them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up
to (or if there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a
really shit mc and an average breakdancer.

dont belive the hype.

Al
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> does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day,=20
> and
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can remember seeing them on top of the pops in about 92, with a big banner 
saying "hardcore u know the score" and the dudes in gasmasks and a baseball 
cap geeza.  It was comedy.  and I couldn't believe my ears when I heard the 
second tune they did coz it had the sheffield pirate DJ 'Astrix in Space' 
goin yeah watch yer bassbins I'm tellin yer. lol.  That guy is a legend.  
wonder what ever happend to him.

cheers
Mucky

>From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
>
>speaking of altern-8.
>went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite 
>but
>altern-8: what a scam
>
>2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front 
>of
>them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
>there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc 
>and
>an average breakdancer.
>
>dont belive the hype.
>
>Al
>TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
>Info: 0772 080 9434
>
>
>
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> > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day, 
>and
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> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video

MTV used to play videos for a few hardcore tunes, what i remember :

Sy Kick - Nasty Rmx
Sons of a loop... - peace & lovism
family foundation - express yourself

i think my mate might still have them on video including shut up & dance's
hilarious performance of "raving im raving" on top of the tops.

Hardcore - U Know the Score
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> mark
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Subject: (oldschool) Calling the Tune ID experts (Again!)

Number 40 is a new one, but the others are still outstanding, cant beleive
#1 is, its been on there since the day I put my site up! :(

www.kikit.freeserve.co.uk/audio/unknown1.ram
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Subject: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

"U ARE YOUNG BUT U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance)
Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?

It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of the 
pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri 
normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life. Altern8 
are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british 
rave culture

If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing on 
national tv????????

>From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
>Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
>
>speaking of altern-8.
>went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite 
>but
>altern-8: what a scam
>
>2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front 
>of
>them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
>there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc 
>and
>an average breakdancer.
>
>dont belive the hype.
>
>Al
>TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
>Info: 0772 080 9434
>
>
>
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>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
>Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
>
>
> > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day, 
>and
>i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill 
>pay
>for them let me know
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

sorry if i thought they were shit and a rip off (considering how much they
charge to play).
robbie and me dont know each other so I doubt it taht was aimes at me.

I am not dissing them for what theyve done and i like their tunes but i just
thought they put on a shit show.

but as you asked i plan to do a speedcore pa (100% live of course) on
gardening world next week!



> "U ARE YOUNG BUT U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance)
> Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?
>
> It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of
the
> pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri
> normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life.
Altern8
> are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british
> rave culture
>
> If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing
on
> national tv????????
>
> >From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
> >
> >speaking of altern-8.
> >went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite
> >but
> >altern-8: what a scam
> >
> >2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front
> >of
> >them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
> >there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc
> >and
> >an average breakdancer.
> >
> >dont belive the hype.
> >
> >Al
> >TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
> >Info: 0772 080 9434
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
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> >Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
> >Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >
> >
> > > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day,
> >and
> >i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill
> >pay
> >for them let me know
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

fair play , if I could make money like that I would but no money no talent
and far to much drugs...... ....lol.... ( peeps used to say I could make it
as  a dj but I was to lazy ......hahaha...feck it)  D O P E lol
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> "U ARE YOUNG BUT U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance)
> Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?
>
> It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of
the
> pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri
> normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life.
Altern8
> are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british
> rave culture
>
> If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing
on
> national tv????????
>
> >From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
> >
> >speaking of altern-8.
> >went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite
> >but
> >altern-8: what a scam
> >
> >2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front
> >of
> >them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
> >there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc
> >and
> >an average breakdancer.
> >
> >dont belive the hype.
> >
> >Al
> >TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
> >Info: 0772 080 9434
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mark picking" <mark909@verizonmail.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
> >Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >
> >
> > > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day,
> >and
> >i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill
> >pay
> >for them let me know
> > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

Spot on.  Altern8 wrote some good tunes and how often do you get an act like
that with the sort of tunes they were doing on TOTP.  Just doesn't happen.

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Subject: (oldschool) ALTERN8 IGNORANCE


"U ARE YOUNG BUT U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance)
Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?

It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of the
pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri
normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life. Altern8
are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british
rave culture

If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing on
national tv????????

>From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
>Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
>
>speaking of altern-8.
>went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite
>but
>altern-8: what a scam
>
>2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front
>of
>them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
>there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc
>and
>an average breakdancer.
>
>dont belive the hype.
>
>Al
>TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
>Info: 0772 080 9434
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
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>Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
>Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
>
>
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>and
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> >
> > mark
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Just thought I would let you know Shades of Rythm are doing a PA at La Belle
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album

4/4/2002 6:11:24 AM, "Bobert Holeness" <j_mucky@hotmail.com> wrote:

>heh I had a similar idea.  I've made a couple of punk style (remones, saints 
>stylee) tunes but with oldskool Roland synths instead of electric guitars, 
>my nephew plays the drums but the problem is its a bastard to record drums 
>properly and I'll never afford studio time.  So I'm after a drum recording 
>kit.  I'm still lacking the pissed up cockney to 'sing' and write lyrics 
>too.. heh.
>
>mine arn't remix's but yeah it sounds interesting when or if I get it 
>together I'll send you some stuff if yer interested.

Yeah, send me a link  :)



>cheers
>Mucky
>
>>From: DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>
>>Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com
>>To: junglist <junglist@us-jungle.com>, creators@us-jungle.com, 
>>happyprod@yahoogroups.com, oldschool <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>>CC: us-production <us-production@yahoogroups.com>
>>Subject: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album
>>Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:36:25 -0500
>>
>>Ok, so I have this idea.
>>
>>I want to do an album that is all remixes of classic punk and maybe 
>>hardcorerock tunes.  I think it could be really interesting, and I was 
>>wondering if anyone would be interested in
>>doing something for it.
>>
>>I don't have a lot of money, so I can't really "release" anything on a 
>>large scale, but maybe an MP3 download site, and some CDRs that people 
>>could burn on their own and
>>sell/hand out.  Unless people wanted to pool their resources and actually 
>>release a CD with art and the like.
>>
>>But yeah, what do people think about this?
>>
>>
>>
>>------------
>>"Hey little sister, who's your superman?" - Billy Idol
>>
>>Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
>>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, 
>>boston)
>>       Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
>>          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
>>     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
>>                         "There is no ONE right way to live" - Daniel Quinn
>>         "Educate the narrow minds, they see what they want to see.  
>>Educate the
>>        narrow minds, they feel what they want to feel." - Narra Mine - 
>>Genacide II
>>
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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
      Animators of Intensity info:  http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

I like Altern8's tunes as much as anyone, but if they put on a gak PA
there's not a lot of point in pretending it was good is there?

Robin
www.djardee.co.uk

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> Spot on.  Altern8 wrote some good tunes and how often do you get an act
like
> that with the sort of tunes they were doing on TOTP.  Just doesn't happen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arry Oldskool [mailto:ineedoldskool@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2002 18:15
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (oldschool) ALTERN8 IGNORANCE
>
>
> "U ARE YOUNG BUT U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance)
> Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?
>
> It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of
the
> pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri
> normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life.
Altern8
> are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british
> rave culture
>
> If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing
on
> national tv????????
>
> >From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
> >
> >speaking of altern-8.
> >went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite
> >but
> >altern-8: what a scam
> >
> >2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front
> >of
> >them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
> >there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc
> >and
> >an average breakdancer.
> >
> >dont belive the hype.
> >
> >Al
> >TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
> >Info: 0772 080 9434
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mark picking" <mark909@verizonmail.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
> >Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >
> >
> > > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day,
> >and
> >i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill
> >pay
> >for them let me know
> > >
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Subject: (oldschool) in the post today

q-project- freestyle fanatic ep
dope on plastic vol 1
impact 4- my own- seduction ****TRADE****
this is a trip- basement
tango & dom- double visions
midsummer mist- asylum- thanks matt b :)

i have a spare copy of 'this is a trip' but it's slightly scratched. it pops a little but doesn't jump. i'm willing to trade for anything off my wants.

i also have a new e-mail address, so you can contact me on that.

aora24@dsl.pipex.com

i have no idea why but all the servers are fucked today. my website doesn't work. i can't access my e-mail unless i go to bt internet directly. i also can't get on the mailing list with my new e-mail. what is the world coming to?????

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) oldskool madness

Ryan,

Cheers for the feedback - a lot of people have been on the site but not many
give you any feedback, so thanks

Steve
aka DJ Moody
www.breakpirates.com
www.oldskoolmadness.com
Monday Madness - Live Oldskool 9pm till late

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Moody mate, just checked out your site for the first time.

Wicked stuff!
can't wait to check out the tape rips when I get home from work

keep it up =0)

cheers


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album

You can win a set of drum mics at http://www.sweetwater.com this month.


> heh I had a similar idea.  I've made a couple of punk style (remones, saints 
> stylee) tunes but with oldskool Roland synths instead of electric guitars, 
> my nephew plays the drums but the problem is its a bastard to record drums 
> properly and I'll never afford studio time.  So I'm after a drum recording 
> kit.  I'm still lacking the pissed up cockney to 'sing' and write lyrics 
> too.. heh.
> 
> mine arn't remix's but yeah it sounds interesting when or if I get it 
> together I'll send you some stuff if yer interested.
> 
> cheers
> Mucky
> 
> >From: DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> >Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com
> >To: junglist <junglist@us-jungle.com>, creators@us-jungle.com, 
> >happyprod@yahoogroups.com, oldschool <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >CC: us-production <us-production@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album
> >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:36:25 -0500
> >
> >Ok, so I have this idea.
> >
> >I want to do an album that is all remixes of classic punk and maybe 
> >hardcorerock tunes.  I think it could be really interesting, and I was 
> >wondering if anyone would be interested in
> >doing something for it.
> >
> >I don't have a lot of money, so I can't really "release" anything on a 
> >large scale, but maybe an MP3 download site, and some CDRs that people 
> >could burn on their own and
> >sell/hand out.  Unless people wanted to pool their resources and actually 
> >release a CD with art and the like.
> >
> >But yeah, what do people think about this?
> >
> >
> >
> >------------
> >"Hey little sister, who's your superman?" - Billy Idol
> >
> >Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
> >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, 
> >boston)
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> >          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> >     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

Most "live" PAs don't play live at all, they just play a DAT. I know of a
few that usually do actually play live...Hardfloor (when they actually
show up), Analog Pussy (but they didn't when I saw them, probably cuz it
was such a small party and stuff), Infected Mushroom...and some
lesser-known ones like Huren and Kinder Atom and Mental Floss.

 > "U ARE
YOUNG BUT
U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance) > Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?
> 
> It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of the 
> pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri 
> normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life. Altern8 
> are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british 
> rave culture
> 
> If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing on 
> national tv????????
> 
> >From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
> >
> >speaking of altern-8.
> >went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite 
> >but
> >altern-8: what a scam
> >
> >2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front 
> >of
> >them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
> >there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc 
> >and
> >an average breakdancer.
> >
> >dont belive the hype.
> >
> >Al
> >TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
> >Info: 0772 080 9434
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mark picking" <mark909@verizonmail.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
> >Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >
> >
> > > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day, 
> >and
> >i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill 
> >pay
> >for them let me know
> > >
> > > mark
> > > --
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shades of Rythm at La Belle

Speaking of which, I just got Shades of Rhythm-Sweet Revival (Keep It
Coming) in the post...but which version is the one that usually gets
played, with the "keep-keep-keep it comin'" vocal? It doesn't seem to be
any of the ones on here.


> Just thought I would let you know Shades of Rythm are doing a PA at La Belle
> Angele in Edinburgh tomorrow if you haven't heard
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shades of Rythm at La Belle

> Speaking of which, I just got Shades of Rhythm-Sweet Revival (Keep It
> Coming) in the post...but which version is the one that usually gets
> played, with the "keep-keep-keep it comin'" vocal? It doesn't seem to be
> any of the ones on here.

isn't that Inesse {ray keith remix]

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Subject: (oldschool) homegrown vol 10 mystic n fire

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hi gang one of my mates is lookin for=20

mystic and fire - vol 1 on homegrown 10 (right here right now )=20
FATTTTTTTT tune=20

has anyone got it on vinyl 4 sale ill pass on his details to ya=20

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ALTERN8  IGNORANCE

Exactly, I suppose people expect/hope that they will be great.  They may be
no worse than they were all that time ago but expect good things.  I know I
hope for a big rezerection of it all but the dream and the reality are a
different thing  PA's got away shit shows back then.

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I like Altern8's tunes as much as anyone, but if they put on a gak PA
there's not a lot of point in pretending it was good is there?

Robin
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> Spot on.  Altern8 wrote some good tunes and how often do you get an act
like
> that with the sort of tunes they were doing on TOTP.  Just doesn't happen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arry Oldskool [mailto:ineedoldskool@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2002 18:15
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (oldschool) ALTERN8 IGNORANCE
>
>
> "U ARE YOUNG BUT U WILL LEARN"Robbie Dee (raindance)
> Is this comment aimed at Al Innes ?
>
> It may just be two blokes etc etc etc  but they managed to get on top of
the
> pops with that concept.  How many acts do u think play live on theri
> normally, or anywhere for that matter.  Get a clue then get a life.
Altern8
> are legends in their own lunchtimes and will always be a part of british
> rave culture
>
> If you think u can do better how come u aint doin live pas and appearing
on
> national tv????????
>
> >From: "Al  Innes" <al@resistance.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 15:47:58 +0100
> >
> >speaking of altern-8.
> >went to see them at shake the disease vs test a few weeks ago. dood nite
> >but
> >altern-8: what a scam
> >
> >2 folk in gas masks pretending to play keyboards with big boards on front
> >of
> >them so u couldnt see who they were or what they were really up to (or if
> >there were in fact any keyboard there for that matter). a really shit mc
> >and
> >an average breakdancer.
> >
> >dont belive the hype.
> >
> >Al
> >TWISTED / RESISTANCE [ http://www.twisted.bog.net  ]
> >Info: 0772 080 9434
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "mark picking" <mark909@verizonmail.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 2:56 PM
> >Subject: (oldschool) altern 8 music video
> >
> >
> > > does anyone have any of there music video's? i saw one the other day,
> >and
> >i wanna get it and if there is anymore..if anyone can make me copies ill
> >pay
> >for them let me know
> > >
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Subject: (oldschool) OT mixer

Anyone know a URL for a DJ mixer that i can mix MP3's on thanx



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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album


Ide be interested in contributing to this worthy cause Punk is good shit and 
YA thats it
im
out
of
here
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>Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 16:50:24 -0500 (EST)
>
>You can win a set of drum mics at http://www.sweetwater.com this month.
>
>
> > heh I had a similar idea.  I've made a couple of punk style (remones, 
>saints
> > stylee) tunes but with oldskool Roland synths instead of electric 
>guitars,
> > my nephew plays the drums but the problem is its a bastard to record 
>drums
> > properly and I'll never afford studio time.  So I'm after a drum 
>recording
> > kit.  I'm still lacking the pissed up cockney to 'sing' and write lyrics
> > too.. heh.
> >
> > mine arn't remix's but yeah it sounds interesting when or if I get it
> > together I'll send you some stuff if yer interested.
> >
> > cheers
> > Mucky
> >
> > >From: DJ Entropy <djentropy@mindspring.com>
> > >Reply-To: djentropy@mindspring.com
> > >To: junglist <junglist@us-jungle.com>, creators@us-jungle.com,
> > >happyprod@yahoogroups.com, oldschool <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >CC: us-production <us-production@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Subject: (oldschool) Tribute To Punk Rock album
> > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:36:25 -0500
> > >
> > >Ok, so I have this idea.
> > >
> > >I want to do an album that is all remixes of classic punk and maybe
> > >hardcorerock tunes.  I think it could be really interesting, and I was
> > >wondering if anyone would be interested in
> > >doing something for it.
> > >
> > >I don't have a lot of money, so I can't really "release" anything on a
> > >large scale, but maybe an MP3 download site, and some CDRs that people
> > >could burn on their own and
> > >sell/hand out.  Unless people wanted to pool their resources and 
>actually
> > >release a CD with art and the like.
> > >
> > >But yeah, what do people think about this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >------------
> > >"Hey little sister, who's your superman?" - Billy Idol
> > >
> > >Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  
>ian@djentropy.com
> > >    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld,
> > >boston)
> > >       Animators of Intensity info:  
>http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com
> > >          http://www.djentropy.com        http://www.ne-hardcore.com
> > >     Upcoming gigs: http://www.warblevx.net/djentropy/upcominggigs.html
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>From: dj_aztek@btinternet.com
what is the world coming to?????



TOTAL FUCKING CHAOS!!!




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shades of Rythm at La Belle

r u going?...I should be

> Just thought I would let you know Shades of Rythm are doing a PA at La
Belle
> Angele in Edinburgh tomorrow if you haven't heard
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hi has anyone uploaded any good old skool mixes? I downloaded lots in =
the past from links on this list but my harddisk got wiped before i =
could burn them:(

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Subject: (oldschool) : Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc

Me too!! it would be amazin to hear a tape from clink

yep me too....I would consider swapping my left bollock for some tapes of 
that ilk.

For what is worth I have a couple of good old old tapes that I taped myself 
in da day. The best one is Sunrise FM....which was a very excellent pirate 
radio station. I got in contact with Pukka when I joined the list and traded 
a few with him...he seems to be da man on tape trading. If you have not got 
it off him grab it....quality is acceptable and has some corking tunes on 
it....plenty of hip hop too as thats what raves used to be like.
has got blake baxters - sexuality (all time classic in my opinion) + stuff 
like Kraze - Let there be house.

classic house, acid and techno from late 80's....dribble dribble dribble.

Which reminds me where the feck can i get a copy of Sleazy D's - I've Lost 
Control? Bitch ;)

cheers

andrew

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Subject: (oldschool) In the shops today

The new remixes of Phuture Sound....pretty decent new skool dnb (subbase).

Bounty Killa (Greensleeves), for $9!

at Satelliite, of all places.....hehe

I heard that new Noise Factory too, it's really not that great....one side is medicore ragga, the other side is okay, buts it's like 190BPM....



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> "Five pounds to get in my own bedroom?  What have you gone and turned it
into a lunar disco?"

Errrrrrr..........

"Five pounds to get into my own bedroom? What have you done? Turned it into
a roller disco?"

;o)

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4/5/2002 12:36:37 AM, "DJ Destiny" <djdestiny@kikit.org> wrote:

>> "Five pounds to get in my own bedroom?  What have you gone and turned it
>into a lunar disco?"
>
>Errrrrrr..........
>
>"Five pounds to get into my own bedroom? What have you done? Turned it into
>a roller disco?"

ROLLER DISCO?!  Thats so much cooler!



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> "Five pounds to get into my own bedroom? What have you done? Turned it
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> a roller disco?"


LOL oooops,. i missed out the "HA!" just before the "What have you done?"

At 6:41AM I think its bed time......

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Subject: (oldschool) IMPORTANT - PAYPAL USERS READ!!!!!!

Someone just showed me this, his account has been frozen and he cant get his
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Check this site and see the horror stories unfold!

http://www.paypalwarning.com/

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) In the shops today

on 5/4/02 1:42 PM, DJ Entropy at djentropy@mindspring.com wrote:

>> "Five pounds to get into my own bedroom? What have you done? Turned it into
>> a roller disco?"

Sampled from the Young Ones no doubt. Ahhhh, those were the days :)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) NEED EXODUS BY REBEL MC

I dont really remember cos its on the other side of the world at the moment. 
sorry, Im a bit of a tune-tease. hehe

Krane


>is it the one on Tuff Gong  - Rebel MC Kindred Spirits mix??
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IMPORTANT - PAYPAL USERS READ!!!!!!

on 5/4/02 2:02 PM, DJ Destiny at djdestiny@kikit.org wrote:

> Someone just showed me this, his account has been frozen and he cant get his
> cash.
> Check this site and see the horror stories unfold!
> 
> http://www.paypalwarning.com/

Thanks for that Dest... I think i've read enough to put me off.

Now, who wants to sell me merchandise for and upto $18US cause thats what I
got sitting in there?

Anyone got Two Dark Troopers on Basement?

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Subject: (oldschool) a guy called gerald-sunshine-juice box

can anyone tell me if they know where i can obtain the above
tune from?

failing that, can anyone tell me the LIKELYHOOD of finding
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Subject: (oldschool) WANTED

Deep Seven  - Deep 004 - Aztek i heard you had this for sale?

X-Static -Move Your Mind /  Global Vine - Production House 52

Back in the Daze - Junglemania 00?

J&J - Midnight - Strictly Underground

can anyone sell or trade me these?

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look for my name on audiogalaxy
username >wotisgoingon
i have over a 100 mixes from 91 - 97 ish

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hi has anyone uploaded any good old skool mixes? I downloaded lots in the
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its your mates lucky day then, theres this bloke i won an ebay auction from, 
he offered me other homegrown tunes too, all only £5 each!!!!! i snapped up 
the ones i hadnt got, but mystic and dj fire was still there,ill contact him 
see if he still has it

rob


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>hi gang one of my mates is lookin for
>
>mystic and fire - vol 1 on homegrown 10 (right here right now )
>FATTTTTTTT tune
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cheers my mate will be forever gratefull

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> its your mates lucky day then, theres this bloke i won an ebay auction
from,
> he offered me other homegrown tunes too, all only £5 each!!!!! i snapped
up
> the ones i hadnt got, but mystic and dj fire was still there,ill contact
him
> see if he still has it
>
> rob
>
>
> >From: "wotisgoingon" <wotisgoingon@hotmail.com>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> >Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 01:03:26 +0100
> >
> >hi gang one of my mates is lookin for
> >
> >mystic and fire - vol 1 on homegrown 10 (right here right now )
> >FATTTTTTTT tune
> >
> >has anyone got it on vinyl 4 sale ill pass on his details to ya
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) : Re: (oldschool) -old 89 + ibiza tapes-etc

yeah sexuallity is a classic, luckily I know a guy who's been playing out in 
sheffield and all over since the big bang in 87-88 he's done me a quallity 
early days tape and he still plays out every now and then at SCUBA and so 
does Winston Hazel and Pipes from Forgemasters.  So I could do anyone a copy 
of that, its got loads of old tunes on as he's kept all his old records.

As for Sleazy D - lost controll TUNE!! pure madness....the original will be 
fuckin rare, but there are a lot of 'chicago megamix' type lps which you can 
often find tunes like that on.

cheers
Mucky

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>Me too!! it would be amazin to hear a tape from clink
>
>yep me too....I would consider swapping my left bollock for some tapes of
>that ilk.
>
>For what is worth I have a couple of good old old tapes that I taped myself
>in da day. The best one is Sunrise FM....which was a very excellent pirate
>radio station. I got in contact with Pukka when I joined the list and 
>traded
>a few with him...he seems to be da man on tape trading. If you have not got
>it off him grab it....quality is acceptable and has some corking tunes on
>it....plenty of hip hop too as thats what raves used to be like.
>has got blake baxters - sexuality (all time classic in my opinion) + stuff
>like Kraze - Let there be house.
>
>classic house, acid and techno from late 80's....dribble dribble dribble.
>
>Which reminds me where the feck can i get a copy of Sleazy D's - I've Lost
>Control? Bitch ;)
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) where can i download mp3 mixes

I've been trying to find some old school hardcore from 92-94.  You know =
not the rave style but stuff like Ramirez, Digital Boy, Terrorize, Dream =
Frequency, "We choose to go to the moon" anyone know any good sites for =
these kinds of mixes.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) WANTED

> X-Static -Move Your Mind /  Global Vine - Production House 52

I'd trade this ;o)

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Subject: (oldschool) mucky jungle/dnb tunes

here's a couple of jungle techno DnB tunes I made. I think my tunes are 
comin on a bit, but nothing special.

give them a listen if you like.  Tell me what you think.

http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/thelight.mp3

check the end of this one for old skool


http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/traveling_heavy.mp3

crazy synth noises not quite the same in mp3 format

cheers
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Subject: (oldschool) Back 2 89 - Camden

Farley Jackmaster Funk
Shades Of Riddem
Slipmatt
Colin Faver
and more

hopefully less cheese than normal ;o)

http://www.clubehm.com/newEhmSite/ftd.html

n e 1 else ?


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mucky jungle/dnb tunes

i quite like them.  very professional sounding.  What do you use to make
your squelchy synth noises s/w or h/w?
I'm just starting out in production, and have an S5k for samples and am
after recommendations for software synths/methods of working.

Cheers, Matt
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> here's a couple of jungle techno DnB tunes I made. I think my tunes are
> comin on a bit, but nothing special.
>
> give them a listen if you like.  Tell me what you think.
>
> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/thelight.mp3
>
> check the end of this one for old skool
>
>
> http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/traveling_heavy.mp3
>
> crazy synth noises not quite the same in mp3 format
>
> cheers
> Mucky
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Back 2 89 - Camden

got my tickets already

c u down the front maxx

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Subject: (oldschool) Back 2 89 - Camden


Farley Jackmaster Funk
Shades Of Riddem
Slipmatt
Colin Faver
and more

hopefully less cheese than normal ;o)

http://www.clubehm.com/newEhmSite/ftd.html

n e 1 else ?


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Well I'm of home, so if anyone is at slammin vinyl I'll see you around =
there tomorrow night then!

Anyone here going to it, gimme a ring some tomorrow before 6pm on 0797 =
707 6455 and we'll arrange a meetup

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Back 2 89 - Camden

> got my tickets already

Shit! tickets

forgot about that,
i have to pretend to be a punter ;o)


PS. Nice addy - only from the chandler

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Shades of Rythm at La Belle


The plan was to go but I'm struggling for recruits, I need some reliable =
mates I think.  My catch you there if I remeber what you look like.


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Subject:	Re: (oldschool) Shades of Rythm at La Belle

r u going?...I should be

> Just thought I would let you know Shades of Rythm are doing a PA at La
Belle
> Angele in Edinburgh tomorrow if you haven't heard
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Back 2 89 - Camden

If I go it will be last minute and I'll see yooz at the left
hand speaker. That venue is beginning to do my head in
though.

D

 --- "M@xxViNyL" <ardcoredj@hotmail.com> wrote: > > got my
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> 
> Shit! tickets
> 
> forgot about that,
> i have to pretend to be a punter ;o)
> 
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mucky jungle/dnb tunes

niceone
I use hardware synths (sh-101, juno 106, darkstar) but started out with 
software like FM7, Simsynth, Vaz, Rebirth there's loads and they all sound 
pretty fat with a bit of tweaking, there's a lot of good VST plugins n 
stuff.  The longer you play about with em the more quallity madness you get 
out I reckon.  I never just stick to one piece of software to make a tune 
with.

I dunno anything about an s5k but you can do a lot with a sampler, I need to 
get me a sampler, my mates got an Akai so I'm gonna take some gear round to 
his sometime (oh his neighbours r gonna love us!)

I'm a big fan of analog synths perticularly the old rolands coz it's just 
like no other and you just get 'that' sound.  (specially if your into early 
detroit/chicago stuff)

cheers
Mucky

>From: "Rollin" <deejayrollin@yahoo.co.uk>
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>Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 15:17:03 +0100
>
>i quite like them.  very professional sounding.  What do you use to make
>your squelchy synth noises s/w or h/w?
>I'm just starting out in production, and have an S5k for samples and am
>after recommendations for software synths/methods of working.
>
>Cheers, Matt
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>
>
> > here's a couple of jungle techno DnB tunes I made. I think my tunes are
> > comin on a bit, but nothing special.
> >
> > give them a listen if you like.  Tell me what you think.
> >
> > http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/thelight.mp3
> >
> > check the end of this one for old skool
> >
> >
> > http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/traveling_heavy.mp3
> >
> > crazy synth noises not quite the same in mp3 format
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> > Mucky
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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:

> Bounty Killa (Greensleeves), for $9!
> 
> at Satelliite, of all places.....hehe
> 

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) IMPORTANT - PAYPAL USERS READ!!!!!!

I've told people this a hundred times, Paypal is fine but don't keep a
large balance in your account. They reason they freeze peoples shit is
because they've been receiving money from stolen credit card #'s. If you
receive money from people withdraw it soon after and you'll have no
problem.

cheers

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, DJ Destiny wrote:

> Someone just showed me this, his account has been frozen and he cant get his
> cash.
> Check this site and see the horror stories unfold!
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> http://www.paypalwarning.com/
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) In the shops today

4/5/2002 10:29:08 AM, Ryan Lee <rylee@cloudfactory.org> wrote:

>> Bounty Killa (Greensleeves), for $9!
>> 
>> at Satelliite, of all places.....hehe
>> 
>
>Yeah, I was at Satellite on easter sunday and picked up Under mi Sensi
>X-project rmx there, was pretty happy about that. I hate that store
>though.

Yeah, Satellite blows, although for some reason, all the progressive trance heads that work there flip a lid when I come in, and they get all excited and try to help me find 
tunes.......lol

Which Satellite do you go to?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) mucky jungle/dnb tunes

4/5/2002 7:32:19 AM, "Bobert Holeness" <j_mucky@hotmail.com> wrote:

>http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/thelight.mp3

Production quality is excellent.  Pretty cool tune.

>http://homepages.shu.ac.uk/~asjm/traveling_heavy.mp3

Wikked synth sounds, vibrating bizness.....I dig the bassline at the end too  :)



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Subject: (oldschool) Presale tickets/numbers for Animators of Intensity on sale now! 4/12/02

Pre-sale tickets now onsale!  

Payment through Paypal......upon payment, you will receive a number, and that number will be assigned to your name, and you will just give your name and number at the 
door...
To pay through Paypal, go to http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com and there will be a link on the main page.

OR

If you are around Boston, you can also just stop by my house to buy a presale number, just drop me and email, or give me a call: 617-424-0969

Here is the condensed info:


On Friday, April 12th, 2002:

DJ Entropy in association with The New Sample Revolution and Divine Evil bring you:

ANIMATORS OF INTENSITY

The next excursion into Old Skool, Hardcore, Jungle/DNB, Techno, Ambient, and Psychadelia.

HARDCORE and TECHNO room:

ELLIS DEE - 1992-1994 Hardcore/Darkcore/Jungle - 1st Time In New England! - 1:30am - 3:00am
(Rhythm Section, LSD Projects, Whitehouse Recordings, Collusion Records, Point Blank, Slammin Vinyl, Raindance, United Dance, London, UK)

DJ SINESTRO - 1988-1992 Acid House, 1989-1991 Belgian Techno/Hardcore - 12:00am - 1:30am
(BuzzLife, The-Syndicate.net, Kingsize-USA, Washington, DC)

CROOK - New Skool & Old Skool Electro - 11:00pm - 12:00am
(Elements, Boston)

DJ ENTROPY - Nu Skool Breakbeat Hardcore/New Old Skool - 3:00am - 4:00am
(BHPC, Cheesestep Recordings, N.E. Hardcore, Raverporn.net, Boston)

G WHITE (aka G Notorious) - 94-96 Hardstep/Ragga - 4:00am - 5:00am
(Advance Recordings, Soul Champion, Boston)

MELEE - 2000-2002 New Skool Breaks  - 10:00pm - 11:00pm
(Shadows Of Society, NH)

DJ SATAN - 94-97 Breakbeat Happy Hardcore - 5:00am - 6:00am
(N.E. Hardcore, Divine Evil, New Sample Revolution, Boston)


AMBIENT/DOWNTEMPO/PSYCHADELIC room:

HUGH SHARPE - Goa/Psy - 3:30am - close
(Future Tech/Brooklyn NY)

DAVE PIEKOZ - Downtempo/Trip-Hop/Chill-Jungle/Beats - 2:00am - 3:30am
(Simpleasurez, Boston)

ART OFFICIAL OVERTONES - Ambient Live PA - 11:00pm- 2:00am
(Virtual Vinyl, MA)

10pm - 6am
16+
$12adv/$15door

Mass location
90min from Boston!

http://www.thenewsamplerevolution.com

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"Sometimes rave too hard and fall in lake!!" - Kandi Mikko

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On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:

> 
> Yeah, Satellite blows, although for some reason, all the progressive trance heads that work there flip a lid when I come in, and they get all excited and try to help me find 
> tunes.......lol
> 
> Which Satellite do you go to?


Whoa, I didn't know there were others. I just went to the one on Bowery
street, in Lower East Side.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) In the shops today

4/5/2002 1:55:41 PM, Ryan Lee <rylee@cloudfactory.org> wrote:

>> Yeah, Satellite blows, although for some reason, all the progressive trance heads that work there flip a lid when I come in, and they get all excited and try to help me find 
>> tunes.......lol
>> 
>> Which Satellite do you go to?
>
>
>Whoa, I didn't know there were others. I just went to the one on Bowery
>street, in Lower East Side.

Yeah, thats the original.......there are two remixes in Boston and Atlanta  ;)



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Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
   (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) In the shops today

It sounds more like "bloomin' disco"...but I know it's not.

> 
> >> "Five pounds to get in my own bedroom?  What have you gone and turned it
> >into a lunar disco?"
> >
> >Errrrrrr..........
> >
> >"Five pounds to get into my own bedroom? What have you done? Turned it into
> >a roller disco?"
> 
> ROLLER DISCO?!  Thats so much cooler!
> 
> 
> 
> ------------
> "Five pounds to get into my own bedroom? What have you done? Turned it into a roller disco?"
> 
> 
> Ian Scott aka DJ Entropy                                  ian@djentropy.com
>    (bhpc, cheesestep rec., n.e. hardcore, raverporn.net, neverworld, boston)
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Subject: (oldschool) OMG... Panacea!

Apparently Panacea, this weird German drum & bass dude, has a new single
out entitled "Chartbreaka", and it's... uh... insane.  For the most part
it's a remix of the old Urban Shakedown classic "Bass Speaker" but there's
a ton of other oldskool samples thrown in there as well.  It's very cool.
I like it.  I'll try to have some audio for it later tonight...

Take care,
- Chris


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OMG... Panacea!

4/5/2002 2:20:52 PM, Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

>Apparently Panacea, this weird German drum & bass dude, has a new single
>out entitled "Chartbreaka", and it's... uh... insane.  For the most part
>it's a remix of the old Urban Shakedown classic "Bass Speaker" but there's
>a ton of other oldskool samples thrown in there as well.  It's very cool.
>I like it.  I'll try to have some audio for it later tonight...

http://www.lamer.net/lastweek.jpg


=PPPPPPPP

Haha, Panacea is one of my fave producers ever, his last album "Hardest Tour On Earth" was the best Hardcore album since Experience, imo.




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OMG... Panacea!

4/5/2002 2:20:52 PM, Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

>Apparently Panacea, this weird German drum & bass dude, has a new single
>out entitled "Chartbreaka", and it's... uh... insane.  For the most part
>it's a remix of the old Urban Shakedown classic "Bass Speaker" but there's
>a ton of other oldskool samples thrown in there as well.  It's very cool.
>I like it.  I'll try to have some audio for it later tonight...

Tracklisting: 
Chartbreaka
King Of The Jungle (DJ SCUD´S Burnt-Out Raver Mix), 
Panik Orchestra, The Evil Seed (12´´ Mix), 
The Fire Tonight, 
The Last Brotherhood (Rhythm Of Life)

Woohoo, a King Of The Jungle remix!!!!!!!!!!!!

NIIIIIICE



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Subject: (oldschool) Who are the privy council - Kemet

Who was after this? Theres a copy ending on ebay in just over an hour ;o)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OMG... Panacea!

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
> >Apparently Panacea, this weird German drum & bass dude, has a new single
> >out entitled "Chartbreaka", and it's... uh... insane.  For the most part
> >it's a remix of the old Urban Shakedown classic "Bass Speaker" but there's
> >a ton of other oldskool samples thrown in there as well.  It's very cool.
> >I like it.  I'll try to have some audio for it later tonight...
>
> http://www.lamer.net/lastweek.jpg

Excuse me, but I didn't see anyone else make a mention of it.  :P

> Haha, Panacea is one of my fave producers ever, his last album "Hardest
> Tour On Earth" was the best Hardcore album since Experience, imo.

Honestly haven't heard that much of his stuff up until now, but I am
loving this EP.  Track two is mostly 180+ bpm until it breaks down into
the middle part where there's a 145 bpm stretch for about two minutes...
very tight.

Jesus, though, he's honestly sampled just about EVERY oldskool classic on
here, and I'm only on the third track so far... "Flammable", "Life",
"Music's So Wonderful", "Drumbeats", even fuckin "Captain Of The Ship".
Very cool.

Take care,
- Chris


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) OMG... Panacea!

4/5/2002 2:28:24 PM, Purity Control <purectrl@niceboots.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, DJ Entropy wrote:
>> >Apparently Panacea, this weird German drum & bass dude, has a new single
>> >out entitled "Chartbreaka", and it's... uh... insane.  For the most part
>> >it's a remix of the old Urban Shakedown classic "Bass Speaker" but there's
>> >a ton of other oldskool samples thrown in there as well.  It's very cool.
>> >I like it.  I'll try to have some audio for it later tonight...
>>
>> http://www.lamer.net/lastweek.jpg
>
>Excuse me, but I didn't see anyone else make a mention of it.  :P

Yes, but that link rules.  :)

>> Haha, Panacea is one of my fave producers ever, his last album "Hardest
>> Tour On Earth" was the best Hardcore album since Experience, imo.
>
>Honestly haven't heard that much of his stuff up until now, but I am
>loving this EP.  Track two is mostly 180+ bpm until it breaks down into
>the middle part where there's a 145 bpm stretch for about two minutes...
>very tight.

I'm gonna order it now, woop!

>Jesus, though, he's honestly sampled just about EVERY oldskool classic on
>here, and I'm only on the third track so far... "Flammable", "Life",
>"Music's So Wonderful", "Drumbeats", even fuckin "Captain Of The Ship".
>Very cool.

Hehe, yeah, he rules.


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Shades of Rythm at La Belle

Iam Not going now coz off on holiday 2morrow and got to get my coursework
done first really:)
been drinking all day so going have a nap get up and do it......
weve no met b4 have we?


Al
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The plan was to go but I'm struggling for recruits, I need some reliable
mates I think.  My catch you there if I remeber what you look like.


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r u going?...I should be

> Just thought I would let you know Shades of Rythm are doing a PA at La
Belle
> Angele in Edinburgh tomorrow if you haven't heard
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