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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

yeah, I have that too, its cool

there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was hitting big
then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among others... I
have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from keyboard
magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as well as
artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the old moog
tracks of that period.

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> In a message dated 3/31/00 4:26:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
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> > Hey everyone,
> >
> >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If so, do
you
> >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> >
>
>
> check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune, ever!
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Subject: (oldschool) For sale/swap: Logical Progression by LT Bukem

Hi all

I have got a spare of LTJ Bukem's first release Logical Progression for sale
or swap.

If you are interested please email me and I'll tell you what I need. Or, if
you have my wants list, let me know what you are willing to trade/pay for
it.

Eddie


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Subject: (oldschool) Break the Limits - Hypnotize

I just got a white with BLT 003 on it - I think its Break the
Limits -Hypnotize - it's a 4 tracker there is a vocal  and instrumental on
one side and two other tracks.

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Subject: (oldschool) Successful shopping trip

Oi! Oi!

I just came back from Notting Hill with:

LTJ Bukem - Demons Theme £5
Pennywise Remixes - £6
Hoovers and Spraycans  - £6
DJ Red Alert And Mike Slammer - Don't need your love - £1
Spam remixes - £4
D.J Fantasy Dream - oh yes!! - £5
Rachel Walace Tell me WHy M&M mixes - £8

Sometimes its worth getting up Saturday mornings!!





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Hi, does anyone have any idea on a price for this : Strategy and DJ =
Freshtrax - The Dreamaster EP(Strategy STR002), contains loads of =
Nightmare on elm street samples, any help greatly appreciated.

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Acen - Close Your Eyes

I have a remix by the Wicked Mix remix service. (*N.10.C.T. vol 1*)

It takes the intro from "The Sequil" and adds it to the intro and outro.
The intro also calls you a "Bitch" right after the "Overdose" sample.  Sweet.

At 09:47 PM 3/31/00 -0600, you wrote:
>I have a remix of this by the masterbeat remix service, but I'm not sure
>what the difference is... I'll need to go back and listen to both of them
>again, one after another.  The masterbeat remix has here comes the sun in
>it, but only once.  I'm guessing that the main difference is the intro/outro
>beats and the breaks, as was customary with a lot of remix services in the
>early 90s.
>
>aCidbOy
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>> The version with the Beatles sample cut out is just that, the same song
>with
>> both sections where the sample is, removed.  I've got it on the Part 2 CD
>> single but it's not worth encoding as it is practically the same as the
>> Optikonusion version.
>>
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... SmartE - I told you that 96 dnb tune your were after is 'Mutant
Revisited'. Your actually after 'Sonar' by Trace on Prototype. I'm
listening to MR just now and it doesn't have the three tone bells, but
Sonar sounds exactly the same (real good for cut up potential) as MR but
has the bells.

peace,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) '96 dnb ID's

Fucking freakiest coincidence of my life time happened today.

I went into this Exchange & Mart and the first bit of vinyl i picked up and 
listened to was the first ID!!!

Anyway, it turned out to be Paradox 'Certain Sound'.

Loads and loads of ragga jungle there, I didnt have time to go through it 
all.  Picked up a few other gems including Cape Fear for 1.99, Plastic EP by 
Brainstorm, Dark Horse 6  etc

Ian


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> ha ha- this is the _worst_ ID description I've heard in a while ;) reminds 
>  me of my ID attempts before I discovered real audio -can you encode these 
>  for me Ian?

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Yeah that rings a bell now.  I remember listening to it in HMV ages ago but 
was being too much of a tight arse and decided not to get it.

Cheers Twist!


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> Easy peasey. Trace - Mutant Revisited on Emotif. Good luck tracking a
>  copy down though.
>  
>  peace,
>  tWiSt

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) I made a mistake...

Hmmm, I know the tracks deffinately a remix though, and had a grey sleeve 
with maybe some nice but suttle artwork.

I'll code it up tomorrow.

The bass cut-offs towards the end do sound a bit bodgy though.

Ian


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>  listening to MR just now and it doesn't have the three tone bells, but
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>  has the bells.
>  
>  peace,
>  tWiSt

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Subject: (oldschool) Quick question...

... you know how 'Terminator' is on Synthetic Hardcore Phonography 003?
What's 1 and 2? And were there any releases after 'Terminator'?

Is 'Angel' number 2?

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What number is the one that samples Liquid 'Sweet Harmony'? Is it #4?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

Cool, I found Caustic Window's album "Compilation" .. and I saw the the song
title "Jayrex J4" .. is that the mix of Popcorn?

Marcus

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> > Hey everyone,
> >
> >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If so, do you
> >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> >
>
> check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune, ever!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

Cool, I found Caustic Window's album "Compilation" .. and I saw the the song
title "Joyrex J4" .. is that the mix of Popcorn?

Marcus

Oxopoly@aol.com wrote:

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> > Hey everyone,
> >
> >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If so, do you
> >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> >
>
> check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune, ever!
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool stuff! I
would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> yeah, I have that too, its cool
>
> there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was hitting big
> then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among others... I
> have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from keyboard
> magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as well as
> artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the old moog
> tracks of that period.
>
> aCidbOy
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> >
> > > Hey everyone,
> > >
> > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If so, do
> you
> > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > >
> >
> >
> > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune, ever!
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Subject: (oldschool) OT:  I have a SPARE Moondance ticket for grabs...

If anyone wants it then give me a ring on 07989 813240.

Im leaving in a minute and should be at Dingwalls with Gurn + C White at 
8:30pm.

Otherwise I'll have to stand outside Camden Palace like some sort of 
prostitute and flog it!


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Any one have a 12" of Children of the Night - Umm .. Something Nation? I =
will pay a pretty penny for it ................ PLEASEPLEASEPLEASEPLEASE
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) OT:  I have a SPARE Moondance ticket for grabs...

yoink !
Im there

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> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID

liquid is great.  it took me a long time to find it, but when I finally did
it was well worth it.  a lot cleaner than most paper and gel forms. 8 )

aCidbOy (i have this nick for a reason)
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> SOME CLEAR LIQUID TO SORT YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!!!
>
> FUCK ME.. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET MT HANDS ON THAT
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA powder
> also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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>
> > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem like
a
> > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know how
i
> > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently they
> are
> > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> >
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> >
> > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially the
> > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years back.
I
> > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> >
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> > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> >
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> >
> > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> >
> > D
> >
> > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > done these before?
> > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID

don't know anyone who has actually dropped it in their eyes... Thing is, do
you really trust the guy that made the liquid well enought to do something
that might permanently damage your eyesight?  not me!

aCidbOy
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> you done that?
>
> i heard of people putting tabs under their eyeballs.
>
> fuck me, i thought i was crazy
>
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> try putting a drop in each eye... un fucking beleivable !!
>
>
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> >
> >
> > SOME CLEAR LIQUID TO SORT YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!!!
> >
> > FUCK ME.. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET MT HANDS ON THAT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> >
> >
> > i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA
powder
> > also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:52
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> >
> >
> > > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem
like
> a
> > > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know
how
> i
> > > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently
they
> > are
> > > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:41
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially
the
> > > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years
back.
> I
> > > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:37
> > > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DJ PHTHOR [mailto:djphthor@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 08:58
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > > done these before?
> > > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID

I find just chewing the hell out of the pills is just as good as snorting
them.  tastes disgusting, but once they're broken up you digest them a lot
more quickly... effect is a lot more intense but lasts a shorter time.  you
can alternately break them up into a fine powder first, pour it on your
tongue, and chase it down with a drink real quick.  not as bad as chewing
them.

aCidbOy
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> I've snorted pills. Its crap, it just burns your nose out completely
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hrood Bwai [mailto:hroodbwai@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:22
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
>
>
> Not as much as snorting pills:)
>
> Effect is quicker though, which is the only reason for doing it...
>
> >From: VickyV@bbh-unlimited.co.uk
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:12:45 +0100
> >
> >
> >
> >Doesn't it hurt ?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Hrood Bwai" <hroodbwai@hotmail.com> on 03/31/2000 12:13:39
> >
> >Please respond to oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To:   Oldschool@Hyperreal.Org
> >cc:   (bcc: Vicky Vale/Unlimited/UK/BBHComm)
> >
> >Subject:  Re: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> >
> >Specially when yer use it like eye drops:)
> >
> > >From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > >Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 12:01:16 +0100
> > >
> > >i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA
powder
> > >also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
> > >
> > >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Gold, Jonathan <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Sent: 31 March 2000 10:52
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem
> >like
> > >a
> > > > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know
> >how
> > >i
> > > > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently
> >they
> > >are
> > > > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> > > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:41
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially
> >the
> > > > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years
> >back.
> > >I
> > > > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:37
> > > > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > > >
> > > > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: DJ PHTHOR [mailto:djphthor@yahoo.com]
> > > > Sent: 31 March 2000 08:58
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > > > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> > > >
> > > > D
> > > >
> > > > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > > > done these before?
> > > > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID

anal probe is a classic, too

----- Original Message ----- 
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> 
> 
> oh come on - chicken lover's GOT to be the one. saying that tho', the
> one where mr mackie gets fired is wicked - and so's merry christmas
> charlie manson ...
> 
> jdw
> 
> 
> 
> ---------------------------------------- Message History
>       ----------------------------------------
> 
> 
> From: Jonathan.Gold@let-it-be-thus.com on 31/03/2000 11:40
> 
> Please respond to oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> To:   oldschool@hyperreal.org
> cc:
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> 
> 
> 
> MING LEI
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VickyV@bbh-unlimited.co.uk [mailto:VickyV@bbh-unlimited.co.uk]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:37
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> No no no no no...the one where Cartman is a thai prostitute on a
> bucking
> bronco
> thingy saying you want sucky sucky ?? !!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com> on 03/31/2000
> 12:37:43
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> 
> 
> i think that was probably the best southpark i've seen.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Clarke [mailto:matt_clarke@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:34
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> 
> 
> >>I've snorted pills. Its crap, it just burns your nose out completely
> 
> Drugs are bad...MmmOkay
> 
> Matt Clarke  --  ICQ# 17128733  --  Back To The Old Skool
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Unwise life choices

heh, that's great... I can totally picture doing that, and the stress
involved.  8^p

aCidbOy
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> Glastonbury. 80,000 people walking in one direction through a small
gangway. Me,
> confused, attempting to walk in the opposite direction. Not perhaps the
best
> decision I ever made.
>
> Andy Kempster wrote:
> >
> > I JUST ABOUT LOST THE POWER OF SPEECH FOR A WHILE BUT HEY, IT'S ALL PART
OF
> > GROWING UP MATE
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Subject: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

with all this talk about acen's trip II the moon (a track worth talking
about, for sure), I was wondering about the versions...

I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno Volume
Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that appears to
be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might even say
bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes of the
song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of my fav
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tape

hmm... I jioned #oldschool_rave on dalnet and I was the only one there...
----- Original Message -----
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> DALnet #oldschool_rave
>
> Later,
> Ian <----- Channel Owner
> (CrossFire)
>
> At 10:13 29-03-00 -0600, you wrote:
> >/me notices a lot of you guys use IRC commands.... Is there an oldschool
> >channel I'm missing?  what #channel and network?
> >
> >thnx, aCidbOy
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <VickyV@bbh-unlimited.co.uk>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:29 AM
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tape
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> why are you going off on one at everyone today ?
> >>
> >> /me gives Nolan a big chill pill...man !!!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Emulation" <emulation@i12.com> on 03/29/2000 16:28:39
> >>
> >> Please respond to oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> To:   Oldschool@Hyperreal.Org
> >> cc:   (bcc: Vicky Vale/Unlimited/UK/BBHComm)
> >>
> >> Subject:  Re: (oldschool) Tape
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Am i being over sensative
> >> are you taking the piss out of me or yourself ?
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Hrood Bwai <hroodbwai@hotmail.com>
> >> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >> Sent: 29 March 2000 15:29
> >> Subject: (oldschool) Tape
> >>
> >>
> >> > "Julian listened to your tape mate"
> >> >
> >> > Goo for you M8
> >> >
> >> > And I'm pleased that you've managed to live through the experience
> >without
> >> > giving up hope for life...
> >> >
> >> > Sorry, I'm not trying to take the piss and I'll appreciate any
> >> constructive
> >> > criticisms you can sling my way:)
> >> >
> >> > Jules
> >> >
> >> > >From: "Emulation" <emulation@i12.com>
> >> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
> >> > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:49:02 +0100
> >> > >
> >> > >Julian listened to your tape mate
> >> > >
> >> > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > >From: Hrood Bwai <hroodbwai@hotmail.com>
> >> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >> > >Sent: 29 March 2000 14:48
> >> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > "Uhmmm, i am a garage producer"
> >> > > >
> >> > > > That's alright don't be shy, say it out loud so we can all hear
you.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > The first step on the road to recovery is admiting you have a
> >> problem...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hrood Bwai:P
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> >> > > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> > > > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> > > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
> >> > > > >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:21:14 +0100
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Uhmmm, i am a garage producer, and i produce at 140bpm, same for
> >> > >oldskool.
> >> > > > >Are you thinking of US Garage (Masters At Work, Todd Edwards et
> >al)?
> >> > >Cos
> >> > >i
> >> > > > >think Venetia meant UK Garage (2 step stuff).
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Later,
> >> > > > >Ian
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >At 02:49 27-03-00 -0600, you wrote:
> >> > > > > >you'll find garage and oldskool don't exactly mix... oldskool
> >> > >breakbeat
> >> > > > >is a
> >> > > > > >good 140 bpm + in speed, garage (not speed garage) is closer
to
> >130
> >> > > > >bpm...
> >> > > > > >but you could still play both styles in a set.  I just don't
see
> >> > >going
> >> > > > >back
> >> > > > > >and forth very easily
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >aCidbOy
> >> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > >From: "Venetia Russell" <Venetia.Russell@etc.ac.uk>
> >> > > > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >> > > > > >Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 2:46 AM
> >> > > > > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >> Tjitze
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Yeah I am interested in all those vinyl's. But I don't have
old
> >> > >skool
> >> > > > > >> hardcore to exchange, oh yeah I do have a few, their my
> >partners,
> >> > >so
> >> > > > > >> I'll have to check this evening at home and then mail u and
> >give
> >> > >you
> >> > > > >the
> >> > > > > >> titles etc. But I have just started to DJ, although garage,
but
> >I
> >> > >am
> >> > > > > >> oldskool fe real, and I need to be able to learn to mix both
> >> garage
> >> > >and
> >> > > > > >> oldskool hardcore, so just name your price. Please get back
to
> >me
> >> > > > > >> a.s.a.p.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Peace
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> Lady Statik
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > > >> From: Tjitze D. Rienstra [mailto:tjitze@zonnet.nl]
> >> > > > > >> Sent: 25 March 2000 17:22
> >> > > > > >> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> > > > > >> Subject: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> I've got a near mint copy of DJ Seduction - Sub Dub on
Impact
> >for
> >> > > > > >> trade...
> >> > > > > >> here is my wants list. Contact me privately if you're
> >interested.
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >> SL2   Live together remixes  Impact
> >> > > > > >> Force & Evolution High on life   Kniteforce
> >> > > > > >> Force & Evolution Perfect Dreams   Kniteforce
> >> > > > > >> Luna-C   Piano Confusion   Kniteforce
> >> > > > > >> 2 bad mice  Hold it down/bombscare  Movind shadow
> >> > > > > >> Austin   Rude Boy   Moving shadow
> >> > > > > >> Blame   Music takes you   Moving shadow
> >> > > > > >> Hyper-on experience Lords of the null lines  Moving shadow
> >> > > > > >> Hyper-on experience Disturbance   Moving shadow
> >> > > > > >> House Crew  Keep the fire burning  Production House
> >> > > > > >> Acen    Trip to the moon pt.1  Production House
> >> > > > > >> Acen   Trip to the moon pt.2  Production House
> >> > > > > >> Acen   Trip to the moon pt.3  Production House
> >> > > > > >> Acen   Window in the sky remixes Production House
> >> > > > > >> House Crew  The Theme   Production House
> >> > > > > >> Krome & Time  Sound for the underground Suburban base
> >> > > > > >> Rachel Wallace  Tell me why   Suburban Bass
> >> > > > > >> Run Tings  Fires Burning   Suburban Base
> >> > > > > >> Sonz of da loop da loop Far Out    Suburban Bass
> >> > > > > >> Sonz of da loop da loop Peace & Lovism   Suburban Bass
> >> > > > > >> Nu-matic  Hard times   XL records
> >> > > > > >> XL Fourplay      XL records
> >> > > > > >> Orca   4am    White label
> >> > > > > >> Sy Kick   Follow me   Hamster
> >> > > > > >> Force Mass Motion Xplosion   Rabbit City
> >> > > > > >> Euphonic state - Filosofy of life EP     Rabbit City
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
> >> > > > > >>
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I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211 port 1992 l/p
hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It is also in the
\Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994 - aCidbOy\ folder,
but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin unkown.  feel free
to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to contribute, please do.
enjoy.

aCidbOy

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3


> Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of the shadows
do
> they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones selling it
for
> a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
>
> Later,
> Ian
>
> ---------------------------------
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> screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> remember one thing, i just dont give
> a f**k" - Eminem
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3

oops... that wasn't supposed to be broadcast to everyone- *grin*  well,
whoever wants to check out my site, feel free...  I think I'm blushing a
little.

aCidbOy


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Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3


> I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211 port 1992 l/p
> hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It is also in
the
> \Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994 - aCidbOy\
folder,
> but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin unkown.  feel
free
> to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to contribute, please
do.
> enjoy.
>
> aCidbOy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
> Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
>
>
> > Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of the shadows
> do
> > they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones selling it
> for
> > a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
> >
> > Later,
> > Ian
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > "So when you see me on your block,
> > screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> > remember one thing, i just dont give
> > a f**k" - Eminem
> >
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3

oh well, the secret is out then
all my stuff is already on there


> -----Original Message-----
> From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
> Sent: 01 April 2000 19:59
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
>
>
> oops... that wasn't supposed to be broadcast to everyone- *grin*  well,
> whoever wants to check out my site, feel free...  I think I'm blushing a
> little.
>
> aCidbOy
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "aCidbOy" <aCidbOy@satx.rr.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:55 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
>
>
> > I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211 port 1992 l/p
> > hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It is also in
> the
> > \Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994 - aCidbOy\
> folder,
> > but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin unkown.  feel
> free
> > to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to contribute, please
> do.
> > enjoy.
> >
> > aCidbOy
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
> > Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> >
> >
> > > Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of
> the shadows
> > do
> > > they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones
> selling it
> > for
> > > a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
> > >
> > > Later,
> > > Ian
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > "So when you see me on your block,
> > > screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> > > remember one thing, i just dont give
> > > a f**k" - Eminem
> > >
> > >
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In a message dated 4/1/00 10:53:08 AM Central Standard Time, 
mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:

> Cool, I found Caustic Window's album "Compilation" .. and I saw the the song
>  title "Jayrex J4" .. is that the mix of Popcorn?


unfortunately the popcorn song was left off of the compilation along with the 
r2d2 song (for copyright reasons no doubt) The only way to hear it is to find 
the original Joyrex J4 EP (ha!) or find the mp3 somewhere about.

.e

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heh, i set it up a few months ago, we've had about 3 visitors since then :P

Later,
Ian

At 12:44 01-04-00 -0600, you wrote:
>hmm... I jioned #oldschool_rave on dalnet and I was the only one there...
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2000 1:26 PM
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>
>
>> DALnet #oldschool_rave
>>
>> Later,
>> Ian <----- Channel Owner
>> (CrossFire)
>>
>> At 10:13 29-03-00 -0600, you wrote:
>> >/me notices a lot of you guys use IRC commands.... Is there an oldschool
>> >channel I'm missing?  what #channel and network?
>> >
>> >thnx, aCidbOy
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: <VickyV@bbh-unlimited.co.uk>
>> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 9:29 AM
>> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) Tape
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> why are you going off on one at everyone today ?
>> >>
>> >> /me gives Nolan a big chill pill...man !!!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Emulation" <emulation@i12.com> on 03/29/2000 16:28:39
>> >>
>> >> Please respond to oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> >> To:   Oldschool@Hyperreal.Org
>> >> cc:   (bcc: Vicky Vale/Unlimited/UK/BBHComm)
>> >>
>> >> Subject:  Re: (oldschool) Tape
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am i being over sensative
>> >> are you taking the piss out of me or yourself ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Hrood Bwai <hroodbwai@hotmail.com>
>> >> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >> Sent: 29 March 2000 15:29
>> >> Subject: (oldschool) Tape
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > "Julian listened to your tape mate"
>> >> >
>> >> > Goo for you M8
>> >> >
>> >> > And I'm pleased that you've managed to live through the experience
>> >without
>> >> > giving up hope for life...
>> >> >
>> >> > Sorry, I'm not trying to take the piss and I'll appreciate any
>> >> constructive
>> >> > criticisms you can sling my way:)
>> >> >
>> >> > Jules
>> >> >
>> >> > >From: "Emulation" <emulation@i12.com>
>> >> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> >> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
>> >> > >Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 14:49:02 +0100
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Julian listened to your tape mate
>> >> > >
>> >> > >----- Original Message -----
>> >> > >From: Hrood Bwai <hroodbwai@hotmail.com>
>> >> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >> > >Sent: 29 March 2000 14:48
>> >> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > "Uhmmm, i am a garage producer"
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > That's alright don't be shy, say it out loud so we can all hear
>you.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > The first step on the road to recovery is admiting you have a
>> >> problem...
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > Hrood Bwai:P
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
>> >> > > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> >> > > > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> >> > > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
>> >> > > > >Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2000 14:21:14 +0100
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Uhmmm, i am a garage producer, and i produce at 140bpm, same for
>> >> > >oldskool.
>> >> > > > >Are you thinking of US Garage (Masters At Work, Todd Edwards et
>> >al)?
>> >> > >Cos
>> >> > >i
>> >> > > > >think Venetia meant UK Garage (2 step stuff).
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Later,
>> >> > > > >Ian
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >At 02:49 27-03-00 -0600, you wrote:
>> >> > > > > >you'll find garage and oldskool don't exactly mix... oldskool
>> >> > >breakbeat
>> >> > > > >is a
>> >> > > > > >good 140 bpm + in speed, garage (not speed garage) is closer
>to
>> >130
>> >> > > > >bpm...
>> >> > > > > >but you could still play both styles in a set.  I just don't
>see
>> >> > >going
>> >> > > > >back
>> >> > > > > >and forth very easily
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >aCidbOy
>> >> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
>> >> > > > > >From: "Venetia Russell" <Venetia.Russell@etc.ac.uk>
>> >> > > > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >> > > > > >Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 2:46 AM
>> >> > > > > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >
>> >> > > > > >> Tjitze
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> Yeah I am interested in all those vinyl's. But I don't have
>old
>> >> > >skool
>> >> > > > > >> hardcore to exchange, oh yeah I do have a few, their my
>> >partners,
>> >> > >so
>> >> > > > > >> I'll have to check this evening at home and then mail u and
>> >give
>> >> > >you
>> >> > > > >the
>> >> > > > > >> titles etc. But I have just started to DJ, although garage,
>but
>> >I
>> >> > >am
>> >> > > > > >> oldskool fe real, and I need to be able to learn to mix both
>> >> garage
>> >> > >and
>> >> > > > > >> oldskool hardcore, so just name your price. Please get back
>to
>> >me
>> >> > > > > >> a.s.a.p.
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> Peace
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> Lady Statik
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > > >> From: Tjitze D. Rienstra [mailto:tjitze@zonnet.nl]
>> >> > > > > >> Sent: 25 March 2000 17:22
>> >> > > > > >> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> >> > > > > >> Subject: (oldschool) sub dub 4 trade
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> I've got a near mint copy of DJ Seduction - Sub Dub on
>Impact
>> >for
>> >> > > > > >> trade...
>> >> > > > > >> here is my wants list. Contact me privately if you're
>> >interested.
>> >> > > > > >>
>> >> > > > > >> SL2   Live together remixes  Impact
>> >> > > > > >> Force & Evolution High on life   Kniteforce
>> >> > > > > >> Force & Evolution Perfect Dreams   Kniteforce
>> >> > > > > >> Luna-C   Piano Confusion   Kniteforce
>> >> > > > > >> 2 bad mice  Hold it down/bombscare  Movind shadow
>> >> > > > > >> Austin   Rude Boy   Moving shadow
>> >> > > > > >> Blame   Music takes you   Moving shadow
>> >> > > > > >> Hyper-on experience Lords of the null lines  Moving shadow
>> >> > > > > >> Hyper-on experience Disturbance   Moving shadow
>> >> > > > > >> House Crew  Keep the fire burning  Production House
>> >> > > > > >> Acen    Trip to the moon pt.1  Production House
>> >> > > > > >> Acen   Trip to the moon pt.2  Production House
>> >> > > > > >> Acen   Trip to the moon pt.3  Production House
>> >> > > > > >> Acen   Window in the sky remixes Production House
>> >> > > > > >> House Crew  The Theme   Production House
>> >> > > > > >> Krome & Time  Sound for the underground Suburban base
>> >> > > > > >> Rachel Wallace  Tell me why   Suburban Bass
>> >> > > > > >> Run Tings  Fires Burning   Suburban Base
>> >> > > > > >> Sonz of da loop da loop Far Out    Suburban Bass
>> >> > > > > >> Sonz of da loop da loop Peace & Lovism   Suburban Bass
>> >> > > > > >> Nu-matic  Hard times   XL records
>> >> > > > > >> XL Fourplay      XL records
>> >> > > > > >> Orca   4am    White label
>> >> > > > > >> Sy Kick   Follow me   Hamster
>> >> > > > > >> Force Mass Motion Xplosion   Rabbit City
>> >> > > > > >> Euphonic state - Filosofy of life EP     Rabbit City
>> >> > > > > >>
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the best time ive had at the palace in ages. DEFINATELY the best =
atmosphere at the palace since....?????

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oh , by the way, where did you dissapear to Ian...????

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the best time ive had at the palace in ages. DEFINATELY the best atmosphere
at the palace since....?????

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is there anybody out there

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yes

> is there anybody out there
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oh well, ill just reply to myself.

Abigail's in the land of nod, and im bored shitless.....just listening to
some of my own tracks while im still buzzing, to get an idea of what they
would sound like to a drugged up raver...

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is there anybody out there

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easy ruuuuuudebowy

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> yes
> 
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you weren't at moondance last night, were you? are you from the uk or the
usa?

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> yes
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> you weren't at moondance last night, were you? are you from the uk or the
> usa?

Canada, actually. Haven't been to the UK since '81, so haven't had a
chance to check out a good (or any, for that matter) UK party. I was 6 at
the time.

> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) CAN SOMEONE HEAR ME OUT THERE

ratpack's in canada now. At moondance they left a recording of them saying
they were sorry they didn't make it, but they couldn't get back from canada
in time...

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> > you weren't at moondance last night, were you? are you from the uk or
the
> > usa?
>
> Canada, actually. Haven't been to the UK since '81, so haven't had a
> chance to check out a good (or any, for that matter) UK party. I was 6 at
> the time.
>
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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> > > >
> > > >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

I have caustic window joyrex j4, but it seems to be from different rips...
some of it is 112 kbps, and some of it is 128 kbps.. the sound quality of
the rip isn't that great... I think the original by hot butter is a classic
anyway, and, at least from what my rip of the aphex twin version sounds
like, the original is still king.

aCidbOy
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> In a message dated 4/1/00 10:53:08 AM Central Standard Time,
> mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
> > Cool, I found Caustic Window's album "Compilation" .. and I saw the the
song
> >  title "Jayrex J4" .. is that the mix of Popcorn?
>
>
> unfortunately the popcorn song was left off of the compilation along with
the
> r2d2 song (for copyright reasons no doubt) The only way to hear it is to
find
> the original Joyrex J4 EP (ha!) or find the mp3 somewhere about.
>
> .e
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) CAN SOMEONE HEAR ME OUT THERE

move the oldskool scene to texas... the weather is great here... you can
rave outdoors at night year round, and texas has about 5 times the acreage
of great brittain 8 )

aCidbOy
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> ratpack's in canada now. At moondance they left a recording of them saying
> they were sorry they didn't make it, but they couldn't get back from
canada
> in time...
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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> > > you weren't at moondance last night, were you? are you from the uk or
> the
> > > usa?
> >
> > Canada, actually. Haven't been to the UK since '81, so haven't had a
> > chance to check out a good (or any, for that matter) UK party. I was 6
at
> > the time.
> >
> > >
> > >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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Subject: (oldschool) Fw: (oldschool) tunes 4 sale or trade .more tunes

anyone who wanted these tunes can you send me a mail at
the_jekyl@altavista.com

coz i have loads of mail and i dont know which ones are what so it would be
easier to use the e mail address above then i can reply to people quicker
and easier
and write in the subject area  ( tunes 4 sale )

cheers and sorry to the people i aint replyed to about tunes they want
theres more tunes added to this list
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bomb the bass = beat dis )


labello blanco- cat no12 = white label

shut up and dance = rum and black = cat no - suad17

alpha wave e.p = white label

sudden def = let it hit em( remix ) = cat no - reinforced 19r

force crew= the beginning = white label

dj scoobie = king basshead = strictly hardcore no 5

amnesia= mind body & soul= creative rhythm no 1 ( promo )

acen = close your eyes (optikconfusion mix)= production house 34 r

d, prophet= hypnotized= white label

edge of darkness= come together= adr recordings

dj crystyl = your destiny = dee jay recordings 16

danny breaks= droppin science 3

high rollers 1 = white label

a homeboy, a hippie & a funkie dredd= turbulence - rising high recordings

ellis dee & dj swan e - ruff neck bizz -rough tone recordings

acen - tip to the moon part 2 - production house 42 r

urban shakedown + mickey finn - some justice - urban shakedown no 1

krome & time- ganja man ( dj hype remix ) - tearin vinyl

concept 2 - life line- liftin spirits

dj ron - mr fix it - london somet'ing records no 2

ganja vol 3 ( dj hype)= bad bwoy dj / you must think first= ganja records

dj joker - the creation - outcry recordings

sappo- die hard - intalex productions

dj monk & wynee -the sweetest thing - x.l.p recordings

just 4 u - 4 track e.p / higher/ force and evolution/ austin reynolds

seduction & dougal- its not over - impact records no 28

fat controller- in complete darkness/ slipmatt & nookie remixes

plus i have a piece of vinyl with the house crew on it euphoria/ baptised by
dub / red alert and mike slammer -ruff

more tunes 4 sale or trade

f project  - the junglist vol 2 - white 22

f project - wardance vol 2 - white 20

f project - the o ( dream of heaven ) - white 12

darren j & micky finn - give the poor man a break -

techno confusion - old skool breakbeat import from the usa 1992

manix - head in the clouds ( remix ) - reinforce 12 r

formation rec 10 inch - rolling with the punches - f/mation 45

dj reckless - piano breakbeat tune - white label - djr 1

 oaysis - open secrets - movin shadow 39

defender - feel it - gyroscope recordings - gyro 3

bass intereal - immortal - kickin underground sound - kus 11

darren h & the punisher- gonna be alright- headless recordings no 2

underwolves - the crossing ( justice remix ) - creative wax

adam f - whiplash/eclipse- lucky spin - lsr 15

atlas - second heaven - dee jay recordings - dj 21

sophisticated bad boyz - feel the magic - suburban bass

droppin science vol 2

swift + zinc - blind faith - brain progression - saz 08







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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Lord Of The Null Lines - Hyper~on Experience

Thanks to everybody who offered to send me this mp3! Bigup. I've got it all
sorted, now.
Appreciation...

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*ahem*

> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> Is anyone waiting for records from me ?
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*/rant/*

	That's a shit quality VoS. It doesn't even have the proper beginning! For
gods' sake if you're gonna rip CDs, at least rip the entire track!

*/rant/*

I want the looooooooong daaaaaaaaaaark remix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want it SOOOOOOOOOO much!

:(

> -----Original Message-----
> From: evilc [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> Sent: 01 April 2000 21:17
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>
>
> oh well, the secret is out then
> all my stuff is already on there
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
> > Sent: 01 April 2000 19:59
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> >
> >
> > oops... that wasn't supposed to be broadcast to everyone- *grin*  well,
> > whoever wants to check out my site, feel free...  I think I'm blushing a
> > little.
> >
> > aCidbOy
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "aCidbOy" <aCidbOy@satx.rr.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> >
> >
> > > I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211
> port 1992 l/p
> > > hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It
> is also in
> > the
> > > \Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994 - aCidbOy\
> > folder,
> > > but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin
> unkown.  feel
> > free
> > > to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to
> contribute, please
> > do.
> > > enjoy.
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
> > > Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of
> > the shadows
> > > do
> > > > they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones
> > selling it
> > > for
> > > > a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
> > > >
> > > > Later,
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > "So when you see me on your block,
> > > > screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> > > > remember one thing, i just dont give
> > > > a f**k" - Eminem
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Record stores?

what about the singles 8 )

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 5:31 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Record stores?


> Oh yeah, well i happen to have every LP kraftwerk has ever released :P
>
> Later,
> Ian
>
> At 14:41 28-03-00 -0600, you wrote:
> >braggard... I'll have you know I have a good chunk of kraftwerk on vinyl,
> >some grandmaster flash, 808's cubik on 12", de la's 3 feet high and
rising,
> >as well as a fav of mine by them, rollerskating jam named saturday! so
> >there!
> >
> >aCidbOy  =)
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 7:24 AM
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) Record stores?
> >
> >
> >> /me feels very chuffed because he has a copy of 808 state's album, with
> >> cubik etc on, plus some ancient techno (Kraftwerk), stuff like
Grandmaster
> >> Flash - The Message, and De la soul's album 3 Feet high and rising.
hehe
> >>
> >> Later,
> >> Ian
> >>
> >> At 11:26 27-03-00 +0200, you wrote:
> >> >The joke is that I don't have almost ANY oldskool on vinyl (5 or 6
> >pieces)
> >> >And don't have credit card or account or anything.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >RAVE 4EVER
> >> >Honza/RB
> >> >
> >> >>Nah Bro
> >> >>
> >> >>I don't know, but do u >have any oldskool >Hardcore or Jungle that u
> >>are
> >> >>selling ??
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>Lady Statik
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Mr. RaveBoy [mailto:mr_raveboy@email.cz]
> >> >Sent: 27 March 2000 10:15
> >> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> >Subject: (oldschool) Record stores?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Helllllllllo bradas + sistas!
> >> >
> >> >Does anybody know about ANY iNet record store that sells vinyls also
in
> >> >a
> >> >cash-on-delivery stylee?
> >> >(And has a hardcore stuff, too... :-D)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >RAVE 4EVER
> >> >Honza/RB
> >> >
> >> >
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> >> remember one thing, i just dont give
> >> a f**k" - Eminem
> >>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3

I always rip the entire track... maybe its because its a mix cd... did you
DL it from the \artists folder?  that's a mix someone uploaded to me... the
one in the \compilations folder on 140 bpms + four is the full mix as it
appears on the cd.

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
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>
> */rant/*
>
> That's a shit quality VoS. It doesn't even have the proper beginning! For
> gods' sake if you're gonna rip CDs, at least rip the entire track!
>
> */rant/*
>
> I want the looooooooong daaaaaaaaaaark
remix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I want it SOOOOOOOOOO much!
>
> :(
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: evilc [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> > Sent: 01 April 2000 21:17
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> >
> >
> > oh well, the secret is out then
> > all my stuff is already on there
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
> > > Sent: 01 April 2000 19:59
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > >
> > >
> > > oops... that wasn't supposed to be broadcast to everyone- *grin*
well,
> > > whoever wants to check out my site, feel free...  I think I'm blushing
a
> > > little.
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "aCidbOy" <aCidbOy@satx.rr.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211
> > port 1992 l/p
> > > > hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It
> > is also in
> > > the
> > > > \Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994 - aCidbOy\
> > > folder,
> > > > but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin
> > unkown.  feel
> > > free
> > > > to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to
> > contribute, please
> > > do.
> > > > enjoy.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of
> > > the shadows
> > > > do
> > > > > they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones
> > > selling it
> > > > for
> > > > > a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
> > > > >
> > > > > Later,
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > "So when you see me on your block,
> > > > > screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> > > > > remember one thing, i just dont give
> > > > > a f**k" - Eminem
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance was WICKED

We made tracks around 4:30/5:00.  Didnt want to get caught in the coat 
collectinh 'rush hour'!
Brilliant night though - best in ages.

Ian


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> oh , by the way, where did you dissapear to Ian...????

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Debbie Malone

Hard to find will sell you a repressing for £15 or a botleg for
£10 - no way will they have a wild bunch copy in mint condition for
£15.

At least I hope they didnt...
>
>
> Unfinished Symphony for £35? Hard to find has it in for
> about 15 :0
>
> Later,
> Ian
>
> At 10:08 29-03-00 -0600, you wrote:
> >record stores know people like you (us) will spend big
> bucks on an old
> >track.  you're purchase of unfinished symphony proves
> that.  as long as
> >we're jonesin' for a fix of wax, there'll be a vinyl
> dealer out there
> >profiting off our habit.  8'p
> >
> >aCidbOy
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Eddie" <eddie@yesmate.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 8:29 AM
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) Debbie Malone
> >
> >
> >> Yeah I saw it - I wasn't tempted to spend 40 nicker on
> it either; I
> >> went for Massive Attack Unfinished Symphony for £35
> though - it was
> >> a mint copy....
> >>
> >> I also bought Didgeridoo by Aphex Twin for £10....
> >>
> >> What's with these prices?
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Mike Monnelly [mailto:mmonnelly@ideaglobal.com]
> >> > Sent: 29 March 2000 15:24
> >> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Debbie Malone
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > No. It's called "Don't ya wanna be mine?"
> >> >
> >> > OK, so it's cheesy northern house in essence *but* it's
> >> > from back in the
> >> > day *and* it's got top synth stabs, so I like it.
> >> >
> >> > Notting Hill Vinyl Exchange has it stuck on its wall for
> >> > the princely
> >> > sum of 40 notes. It's a good tune, but not *that* good :o)
> >> >
> >> > tWiSt wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Mike,
> >> > >
> >> > > What's that name of that Debbie Malone tune your after?
> >> > Is it Rescue Me?
> >> >
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Subject: (oldschool) mp3 request

Well, after last night I now have a request for a tune I absolutely HAVE to
have an mp3 of - made me go nuts both times they played it !

According to SmartE it's :

why ? - d'livin

easily identifiable by the "Tracks so nice gotta hear it twice !" sample
so, who has a copy ?
Upload to Acidboys or email it to me pls


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance was WICKED

Yes, it wasnt bad at all. Too many people though, it was packed.
In fact, half way thru the night a couple of coppers come on stage and the
MC is saying "It's too packed, the old bill has turned up, and some people
have got to leave !"
Turned out to be an april fools gag (As was the fact that it was the last
moondance - next one is in july), and the coppers started raving with the
crowd...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: SmarrtE@aol.com [mailto:SmarrtE@aol.com]
> Sent: 02 April 2000 12:55
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance was WICKED
>
>
> We made tracks around 4:30/5:00.  Didnt want to get caught in the coat
> collectinh 'rush hour'!
> Brilliant night though - best in ages.
>
> Ian
>
>
> In a message dated 02/04/00 07:07:58 GMT Daylight Time,
> Lex1@btinternet.com
> writes:
>
> > oh , by the way, where did you dissapear to Ian...????
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3

what, the Foul play remix ?
I have a decent copy of that, I can send from work on minday if ya like

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> Sent: 02 April 2000 10:24
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> 
> 
> 
> */rant/*
> 
> 	That's a shit quality VoS. It doesn't even have the proper 
> beginning! For
> gods' sake if you're gonna rip CDs, at least rip the entire track!
> 
> */rant/*
> 
> I want the looooooooong daaaaaaaaaaark 
> remix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> I want it SOOOOOOOOOO much!
> 
> :(
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: evilc [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> > Sent: 01 April 2000 21:17
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> >
> >
> > oh well, the secret is out then
> > all my stuff is already on there
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
> > > Sent: 01 April 2000 19:59
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > >
> > >
> > > oops... that wasn't supposed to be broadcast to everyone- 
> *grin*  well,
> > > whoever wants to check out my site, feel free...  I think I'm 
> blushing a
> > > little.
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "aCidbOy" <aCidbOy@satx.rr.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211
> > port 1992 l/p
> > > > hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It
> > is also in
> > > the
> > > > \Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994 - aCidbOy\
> > > folder,
> > > > but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin
> > unkown.  feel
> > > free
> > > > to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to
> > contribute, please
> > > do.
> > > > enjoy.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of
> > > the shadows
> > > > do
> > > > > they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones
> > > selling it
> > > > for
> > > > > a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
> > > > >
> > > > > Later,
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > "So when you see me on your block,
> > > > > screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> > > > > remember one thing, i just dont give
> > > > > a f**k" - Eminem
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> > Brilliant night though - best in ages.

sorry i missed it.
went to see Laurent Garnier Live @ The End

stayed a bit longer than i planned  


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i think there's a copy on xtreme's site

oh yeah here it is, I'ts only Real Audio 
but it's a start

http://members.xoom.com/hardscore/why.rm


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3

But sadly not as it appears on the original 12".

> -----Original Message-----
> From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
> Sent: 02 April 2000 10:30
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
>
>
> I always rip the entire track... maybe its because its a mix cd... did you
> DL it from the \artists folder?  that's a mix someone uploaded to
> me... the
> one in the \compilations folder on 140 bpms + four is the full mix as it
> appears on the cd.
>
> aCidbOy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hattrixx" <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:24 AM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
>
>
> >
> > */rant/*
> >
> > That's a shit quality VoS. It doesn't even have the proper
> beginning! For
> > gods' sake if you're gonna rip CDs, at least rip the entire track!
> >
> > */rant/*
> >
> > I want the looooooooong daaaaaaaaaaark
> remix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > I want it SOOOOOOOOOO much!
> >
> > :(
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: evilc [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> > > Sent: 01 April 2000 21:17
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > >
> > >
> > > oh well, the secret is out then
> > > all my stuff is already on there
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
> > > > Sent: 01 April 2000 19:59
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > oops... that wasn't supposed to be broadcast to everyone- *grin*
> well,
> > > > whoever wants to check out my site, feel free...  I think
> I'm blushing
> a
> > > > little.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "aCidbOy" <aCidbOy@satx.rr.com>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 12:55 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I have this track on my ftp.  take a look on 24.26.232.211
> > > port 1992 l/p
> > > > > hardcore/neverdies.  its in the oldskool\artists folder.  It
> > > is also in
> > > > the
> > > > > \Oldskool\Compilations\Speed Limit 140 bpm Plus 4 - 1994
> - aCidbOy\
> > > > folder,
> > > > > but on that compilation its called "31 seconds" by origin
> > > unkown.  feel
> > > > free
> > > > > to leech whatever you want.  if you have anything to
> > > contribute, please
> > > > do.
> > > > > enjoy.
> > > > >
> > > > > aCidbOy
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 4:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: (oldschool) Valley of the shadows MP3
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dont suppose anyone has an MP3 of Origin Unknown - Valley of
> > > > the shadows
> > > > > do
> > > > > > they? The only one i have is pretty crap quality. If anyones
> > > > selling it
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a reasonable price, mail me private stylee.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Later,
> > > > > > Ian
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ---------------------------------
> > > > > > "So when you see me on your block,
> > > > > > screaming i hate the world like tupac,
> > > > > > remember one thing, i just dont give
> > > > > > a f**k" - Eminem
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Sorry, Me Again

> PS Im getting a SW1000XG tommorah - do moments get any better
> than this ? -

No, they bloody well don't!...

	...having said that, you could enhance the moment by subscribing to the new
producers' mailing list. Mail Lee Richardson, the list owner, for details.
(Lee@niit.co.uk)

All the best,

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

I've heard so many version of Trip II the moon, and I think that's the only one
with that type of intro to it, I have the same compilation, and it's on the
compilation called "Classic Raves" .. I think that has the same intro .. but not
a different mix.

Marcus

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> with all this talk about acen's trip II the moon (a track worth talking
> about, for sure), I was wondering about the versions...
>
> I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno Volume
> Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that appears to
> be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might even say
> bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes of the
> song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of my fav
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

I'll have to listen to the "classic rave" version again (its the yellow one
with the mickey mouse hands on the cover, right?) I beleive it is basically
the same mix, but it doesn't have the intro I'm talking about.  I have both
cds.

aCidbOy
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> I've heard so many version of Trip II the moon, and I think that's the
only one
> with that type of intro to it, I have the same compilation, and it's on
the
> compilation called "Classic Raves" .. I think that has the same intro ..
but not
> a different mix.
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > with all this talk about acen's trip II the moon (a track worth talking
> > about, for sure), I was wondering about the versions...
> >
> > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno
Volume
> > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that
appears to
> > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might even
say
> > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes of
the
> > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of my
fav
> > tracks of all time.
> >
> > aCidbOy
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it

Ian



In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time, 
mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:

> > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno Volume
>  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that 
appears 
> to
>  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might even 
> say
>  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes of 
> the
>  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of my 
fav
>  > tracks of all time.
>  >
>  > aCidbOy
>  >

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

Yeah that's the one .. I guess it wasn't it? Yeah .. I remember now .. it
starts off kind of weak ..

Hey .. I'll talk to you more about around 8:00pm CENTRAL .. gotta get back to
work!

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> I'll have to listen to the "classic rave" version again (its the yellow one
> with the mickey mouse hands on the cover, right?) I beleive it is basically
> the same mix, but it doesn't have the intro I'm talking about.  I have both
> cds.
>
> aCidbOy
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
> > I've heard so many version of Trip II the moon, and I think that's the
> only one
> > with that type of intro to it, I have the same compilation, and it's on
> the
> > compilation called "Classic Raves" .. I think that has the same intro ..
> but not
> > a different mix.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > aCidbOy wrote:
> >
> > > with all this talk about acen's trip II the moon (a track worth talking
> > > about, for sure), I was wondering about the versions...
> > >
> > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno
> Volume
> > > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that
> appears to
> > > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might even
> say
> > > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes of
> the
> > > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of my
> fav
> > > tracks of all time.
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
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Subject: (oldschool) Who's doing Raindance on the 21st?

As the title sez........

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's called on the
"classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and the one on
the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the intro

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> Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
>
> > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno
Volume
> >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that
> appears
> > to
> >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might
even
> > say
> >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes
of
> > the
> >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of
my
> fav
> >  > tracks of all time.
> >  >
> >  > aCidbOy
> >  >
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All this talk about Debbie Malone has reminded what a top tune Rescue Me 
is.......and also the fact that i dont own a copy. Anybody care to remedy 
the situation ???

Also, theres a couple of tracks i need to put names to. The 1st one is from 
about 90/91.....i think its called Strange Love....lyrics go

'Is this real love.....such a strange love'   ...repeat

The other track is an old Balearic version of 'Love to Love you 
Baby'.....must have been from 88/89 !!  Really chilled....and the absolute 
dogs bollocks !!  anyone know the tune...and who its by ???

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> Also, theres a couple of tracks i need to put names
> to. The 1st one is from 
> about 90/91.....i think its called Strange
> Love....lyrics go
> 
> 'Is this real love.....such a strange love'  
> ...repeat

Bloody Hell! I'd forgotten I needed an ID on this one!
I have a tape of Vibes playing this on the Kiss
Harcore show just a couple of years back! Please
someone tell me what it is! Absolutely wicked tune!
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> Also, theres a couple of tracks i need to put names to.
The 1st one is from
> about 90/91.....i think its called Strange Love....lyrics
go
>
> 'Is this real love.....such a strange love'   ...repeat

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

Yeah I listened to it .. The "Classic Rave" doesn't have that intro .. Have you
ever had a chance to listen to the Trip II the moon on the "75 Minutes" album
yet?

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's called on the
> "classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and the one on
> the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the intro
>
> aCidbOy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <SmarrtE@aol.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:32 PM
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>
> > Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> >
> > > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of Techno
> Volume
> > >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that
> > appears
> > > to
> > >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you might
> even
> > > say
> > >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other mixes
> of
> > > the
> > >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one of
> my
> > fav
> > >  > tracks of all time.
> > >  >
> > >  > aCidbOy
> > >  >
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) CAN SOMEONE HEAR ME OUT THERE

Ya, I know...wish I coulda made it, but I'm on the other side of the
country.

> ratpack's in canada now. At moondance they left a recording of them saying
> they were sorry they didn't make it, but they couldn't get back from canada
> in time...
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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> 
> > > you weren't at moondance last night, were you? are you from the uk or
> the
> > > usa?
> >
> > Canada, actually. Haven't been to the UK since '81, so haven't had a
> > chance to check out a good (or any, for that matter) UK party. I was 6 at
> > the time.
> >
> > >
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> > >
> > > > yes
> > > >
> > > > > is there anybody out there
> > > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

yes, its the kaliedoskopiklimax mix... also known as trip II the moon part
3.  I picked up the acen album when it came out (on cd, that is... they
didn't have it floating around here on vinyl at all)
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> Yeah I listened to it .. The "Classic Rave" doesn't have that intro ..
Have you
> ever had a chance to listen to the Trip II the moon on the "75 Minutes"
album
> yet?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's called on
the
> > "classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and the one
on
> > the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the intro
> >
> > aCidbOy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <SmarrtE@aol.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> >
> > > Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
> > >
> > > Ian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > >
> > > > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of
Techno
> > Volume
> > > >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that
> > > appears
> > > > to
> > > >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you
might
> > even
> > > > say
> > > >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other
mixes
> > of
> > > > the
> > > >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one
of
> > my
> > > fav
> > > >  > tracks of all time.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > aCidbOy
> > > >  >
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

Yeah .. before I got that CD, it took me 6 months to actually find it somewhere
... it's out of print now ..

Hey, I read another message from you, and it seems like you live in Texas, is
that true?

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> yes, its the kaliedoskopiklimax mix... also known as trip II the moon part
> 3.  I picked up the acen album when it came out (on cd, that is... they
> didn't have it floating around here on vinyl at all)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
>
> > Yeah I listened to it .. The "Classic Rave" doesn't have that intro ..
> Have you
> > ever had a chance to listen to the Trip II the moon on the "75 Minutes"
> album
> > yet?
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > aCidbOy wrote:
> >
> > > I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's called on
> the
> > > "classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and the one
> on
> > > the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the intro
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <SmarrtE@aol.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:32 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> > >
> > > > Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
> > > >
> > > > Ian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > >
> > > > > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of
> Techno
> > > Volume
> > > > >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track that
> > > > appears
> > > > > to
> > > > >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you
> might
> > > even
> > > > > say
> > > > >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any other
> mixes
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is one
> of
> > > my
> > > > fav
> > > > >  > tracks of all time.
> > > > >  >
> > > > >  > aCidbOy
> > > > >  >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

yes, that's right.  I live in San Antonio.  that's what the satx stands for
in my email address 8 )

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon


> Yeah .. before I got that CD, it took me 6 months to actually find it
somewhere
> ... it's out of print now ..
>
> Hey, I read another message from you, and it seems like you live in Texas,
is
> that true?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > yes, its the kaliedoskopiklimax mix... also known as trip II the moon
part
> > 3.  I picked up the acen album when it came out (on cd, that is... they
> > didn't have it floating around here on vinyl at all)
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> >
> > > Yeah I listened to it .. The "Classic Rave" doesn't have that intro ..
> > Have you
> > > ever had a chance to listen to the Trip II the moon on the "75
Minutes"
> > album
> > > yet?
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > >
> > > > I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's called
on
> > the
> > > > "classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and the
one
> > on
> > > > the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the intro
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <SmarrtE@aol.com>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:32 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> > > >
> > > > > Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of
> > Techno
> > > > Volume
> > > > > >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track
that
> > > > > appears
> > > > > > to
> > > > > >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you
> > might
> > > > even
> > > > > > say
> > > > > >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any
other
> > mixes
> > > > of
> > > > > > the
> > > > > >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is
one
> > of
> > > > my
> > > > > fav
> > > > > >  > tracks of all time.
> > > > > >  >
> > > > > >  > aCidbOy
> > > > > >  >
> > > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

Cool! I live in the DFW area .. can you find some hard to find stuff down there
pretty well?

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> yes, that's right.  I live in San Antonio.  that's what the satx stands for
> in my email address 8 )
>
> aCidbOy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
>
> > Yeah .. before I got that CD, it took me 6 months to actually find it
> somewhere
> > ... it's out of print now ..
> >
> > Hey, I read another message from you, and it seems like you live in Texas,
> is
> > that true?
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > aCidbOy wrote:
> >
> > > yes, its the kaliedoskopiklimax mix... also known as trip II the moon
> part
> > > 3.  I picked up the acen album when it came out (on cd, that is... they
> > > didn't have it floating around here on vinyl at all)
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> > >
> > > > Yeah I listened to it .. The "Classic Rave" doesn't have that intro ..
> > > Have you
> > > > ever had a chance to listen to the Trip II the moon on the "75
> Minutes"
> > > album
> > > > yet?
> > > >
> > > > Marcus
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's called
> on
> > > the
> > > > > "classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and the
> one
> > > on
> > > > > the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the intro
> > > > >
> > > > > aCidbOy
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: <SmarrtE@aol.com>
> > > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:32 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> > > > >
> > > > > > Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> > > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best Of
> > > Techno
> > > > > Volume
> > > > > > >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30 track
> that
> > > > > > appears
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising (you
> > > might
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > say
> > > > > > >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any
> other
> > > mixes
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This is
> one
> > > of
> > > > > my
> > > > > > fav
> > > > > > >  > tracks of all time.
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >  > aCidbOy
> > > > > > >  >
> > > > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon

what, like vinyl?  san antonio isn't really the place to hunt down records.
austin and houston are better
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon


> Cool! I live in the DFW area .. can you find some hard to find stuff down
there
> pretty well?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > yes, that's right.  I live in San Antonio.  that's what the satx stands
for
> > in my email address 8 )
> >
> > aCidbOy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 8:58 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> >
> > > Yeah .. before I got that CD, it took me 6 months to actually find it
> > somewhere
> > > ... it's out of print now ..
> > >
> > > Hey, I read another message from you, and it seems like you live in
Texas,
> > is
> > > that true?
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > >
> > > > yes, its the kaliedoskopiklimax mix... also known as trip II the
moon
> > part
> > > > 3.  I picked up the acen album when it came out (on cd, that is...
they
> > > > didn't have it floating around here on vinyl at all)
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 7:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah I listened to it .. The "Classic Rave" doesn't have that
intro ..
> > > > Have you
> > > > > ever had a chance to listen to the Trip II the moon on the "75
> > Minutes"
> > > > album
> > > > > yet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Marcus
> > > > >
> > > > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm pretty sure its parts I & II together... That's what it's
called
> > on
> > > > the
> > > > > > "classic rave" cd and it, and the only difference between it and
the
> > one
> > > > on
> > > > > > the "best of techno three" is the "classic rave" one lacks the
intro
> > > > > >
> > > > > > aCidbOy
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: <SmarrtE@aol.com>
> > > > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2000 4:32 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Trip II the moon
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sure its not Part 1??  Sounds alot like it
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In a message dated 02/04/00 21:59:35 GMT Daylight Time,
> > > > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I have a version of trip II the moon on a cd called "Best
Of
> > > > Techno
> > > > > > Volume
> > > > > > > >  > Three" released by Profile Records in 93.  It's a 6:30
track
> > that
> > > > > > > appears
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >  > be parts I and II, but starts off with a sort of rising
(you
> > > > might
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > > say
> > > > > > > >  > bubbling) bass sound.  I haven't heard this intro on any
> > other
> > > > mixes
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >  > song I've heard, and I wondered if anyone else had.  This
is
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > > fav
> > > > > > > >  > tracks of all time.
> > > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > > >  > aCidbOy
> > > > > > > >  >
> > > > > > >
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yup, thats the one :)
who has an mp3 ?


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> 
> i think there's a copy on xtreme's site
> 
> oh yeah here it is, I'ts only Real Audio 
> but it's a start
> 
> http://members.xoom.com/hardscore/why.rm
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) '96 dnb ID's

Try mailing emotif direct and seeing if they can sort you out, I used them
for a couple of botchit & scarper tunes and they sorted me out straight
away...andy

mailto:botchit@styx.cerbernet.co.uk


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SmarrtE@aol.com wrote:

> uses low pitched looping amen through out the whole track, doesnt change
> once; has a looping high pitched, sorta screechy bassline that barely
changes
> apart from a slight filter change towards the end; and then the bassline
cuts
> on and off a bit lamely. I remember that its a remix and had a grey cover.
> also has a 3 tone spooky chime.

Easy peasey. Trace - Mutant Revisited on Emotif. Good luck tracking a
copy down though.

peace,
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Subject: (oldschool) such a strange love

Wooooh. I've got that one. 
Anyone ever been to a "Dance 89"
or a "Back to 89" event? JJFrost always plays at them. I
think I fancy goint to one. 

D


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> The 1st one is from
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> Love....lyrics
> go
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> > 'Is this real love.....such a strange love'   ...repeat
> 
> Real Love - Nexus 21 - Network
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Aiight!!

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> As the title sez........
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just had a 'tune arrives, you play it, its not what you thought you were =
getting' moment.
FUCKFUCKFUCK

i got the NHS EP - Doc Scott and its not what i want.  buggggerrrrrrrrrr


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Subject: (oldschool) hardcore Moondance Raver!!!

Another quality moondance event. Nice venue, could've been
designed specifically for anthems. Respect to Hashy, Gaddy,
Gurny and Chrissy - and Dean C, the Sargt Major of Rave
(respect to all goatee crew) who shoved a glow stick in my
hand and ordered me to rave. 

How come you three left at 4am? Sounds like the pills wore
off to me, hehe. Of course the stamina crew remained to the
end, Ellis Dee's set was a variety pack, starting with rave,
then jungle, then Null Lines & finished off with some laid
back two-step d&b. 

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Describe the tune you thought you were getting? I've had this happen (I just 
heard it, luckily didn't buy it) with the *exact* same bit of vinyl. The one 
I was always after was from a Carl Cox set in 92. I'm sure it must be a 
*version* of the Doc Scott tune, but I've never heard it anywhere else 
EVER!. Has a guy shouting N!H!S! over lovely bassline and rough hoovers.

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>just had a 'tune arrives, you play it, its not what you thought you were 
>getting' moment.
>FUCKFUCKFUCK
>
>i got the NHS EP - Doc Scott and its not what i want.  buggggerrrrrrrrrr
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----- Original Message -----=20
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Subject: wanted


jmj + richie - case closed - movin shadow 35=20

foul play vol 3 remix 2 - movin shadow 29 r 2=20

noise factory - i bring u the future - label?im not to sure

omni trio 3 - renagade snares on 12 inch not the 10 inch press - =
shadow36

dj tayla & ltj bukem - bang the drum - good looking=20

ed rush - bloodclot artattack - no u turn .

dj crystl - crystlized- force ten or dee jay recordings=20

"  "  "  " - the dark crystl - i think its dee jay recordings=20

and anything on fresh kutt and tunes by hyper on experience between 92 + =
93 .

im badly after a tune called thunder grip on movin shadow by hyper on ! =
i will pay good cash for this=20

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) hardcore Moondance Raver!!!

me, SmartE and Ant left at about 5am cos it turned into Jungle and 2 Step, and the other boys weren't up for it any more, so I
hitched a lift home with em


> -----Original Message-----
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>
> Another quality moondance event. Nice venue, could've been
> designed specifically for anthems. Respect to Hashy, Gaddy,
> Gurny and Chrissy - and Dean C, the Sargt Major of Rave
> (respect to all goatee crew) who shoved a glow stick in my
> hand and ordered me to rave.
>
> How come you three left at 4am? Sounds like the pills wore
> off to me, hehe. Of course the stamina crew remained to the
> end, Ellis Dee's set was a variety pack, starting with rave,
> then jungle, then Null Lines & finished off with some laid
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> D
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na im not after the one with the guy shouting NHS! it think the one you mean
might be NHS vol2 remix (Disco Remix) or somthing. Im just after this mellow
funky thing top buzz ALWAYS play. I can send you a very short clip if you
want, im sure youll have heard the tune many times and might be able to ID
it?

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> Describe the tune you thought you were getting? I've had this happen (I
just
> heard it, luckily didn't buy it) with the *exact* same bit of vinyl. The
one
> I was always after was from a Carl Cox set in 92. I'm sure it must be a
> *version* of the Doc Scott tune, but I've never heard it anywhere else
> EVER!. Has a guy shouting N!H!S! over lovely bassline and rough hoovers.
>
> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: (oldschool) arsewipe
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:32:04 +0100
> >
> >just had a 'tune arrives, you play it, its not what you thought you were
> >getting' moment.
> >FUCKFUCKFUCK
> >
> >i got the NHS EP - Doc Scott and its not what i want.  buggggerrrrrrrrrr
> >
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What a depressing morning I'm having...work abuse, woman abuse...blah blah 
bloody rain. ANYWAY I wanna cheer myself up and look forward to something 
after a lousy weekend.

Who's comin on Sat to sunny B'ham and an old skool mash up?
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nope, it's definitely tttm 2. i was talking about a w/l which exists
which has a "lighter" james bond bit in it due to using the original
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From: theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk on 31/03/2000 18:23

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Don't you mean TTTM part 1 SmarrtE!

--- SmarrtE@aol.com wrote:
> My Trip To The Moon part 2 on cd sounds fine,
> however my vinyl version is
> less bassy on the classical bit and the stabs before
> and after it sound all
> wrong.
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> Ian
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>
> In a message dated 31/03/00 10:57:50 GMT Daylight
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> > only 100, earlier "less clear sampling" trip part
> 2's!
> >  Anyone got one???
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As much as I want to Andy, I will not be able to make it on Saturday 
night........

Lee

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OK does anyone have an MP3 or RA of this NHS disco remix? Worth a try, I 
never heard that one.

Send me a clip, trip :)

(oh send to: mike@b28.in2home.co.uk cos I don't check the list often enough 
at the mo)

>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>
>na im not after the one with the guy shouting NHS! it think the one you 
>mean
>might be NHS vol2 remix (Disco Remix) or somthing. Im just after this 
>mellow
>funky thing top buzz ALWAYS play. I can send you a very short clip if you
>want, im sure youll have heard the tune many times and might be able to ID
>it?
>
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>
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> > Describe the tune you thought you were getting? I've had this happen (I
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> > heard it, luckily didn't buy it) with the *exact* same bit of vinyl. The
>one
> > I was always after was from a Carl Cox set in 92. I'm sure it must be a
> > *version* of the Doc Scott tune, but I've never heard it anywhere else
> > EVER!. Has a guy shouting N!H!S! over lovely bassline and rough hoovers.
> >
> > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: (oldschool) arsewipe
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> > >
> > >just had a 'tune arrives, you play it, its not what you thought you 
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> > >getting' moment.
> > >FUCKFUCKFUCK
> > >
> > >i got the NHS EP - Doc Scott and its not what i want.  
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> From: evilC [SMTP:evilc@evilc.com]
> 
> me, SmartE and Ant left at about 5am cos it turned into Jungle and 2
> Step, and the other boys weren't up for it any more, so I
> hitched a lift home with em
> 
[Bart]  oh no, you mised Ellis Dee playing Dub War! tune of the night in
my book. :) 

[Bart]  like you said, it was way crowded but somehow i expecting it to
be even more crowded so it didn't seem so bad! with a bit of a
dancefloor recce there was usually a bit of space to be found for a
bounce around.

[Bart]  for me the best set was NBM (who'd finished by midnight - i
guess that was one benefit of arriving early to get a ticket on the
door!) who surprised me by dropping Obsession, then all the old jungle
favourites. i love that scratching rewind thing he does, awesome stuff.
:)

[Bart]  there was a great vibe there too, i had a top night (better than
i expected, to be honest). oh, and i found NRG 'I Need Your Lovin' (or
Love, i think it says on the sleeve) on Saturday too. woooohoo! :)

Barticle 

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Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

**PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**

	Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to contribute
to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3 birds with
one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing lists,
as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.

	Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of ravers,
Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought out
to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and that
is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how long
it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a tab
on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're supporting
each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 'that
fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the UK!
Please read on, regardless...

	About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
"don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was much
better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks being
released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and diversity
whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, there
is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength again,
and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all of
the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot of us
possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to leave
the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.

	Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
(particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know what
THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do all
that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous amount
of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the old
ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the scene
collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all the
support we've got.

	Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the mainstream
magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground scene
is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly unnecessary.
If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece of
the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of the
music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You know
what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong hands...
we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.

	IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for being in
Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to become
the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
(address below), because we've written some of the internet's most detailed
and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
*stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into production.
You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and send it
to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems with
that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's even a
new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe, send a
blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think - Lee'll kill
me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
(Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to do.
(He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)


All the best,

Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)

hattrixx@happycore.co.uk

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family commitments in
the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is probably the
most important in this country.
In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the vibe
being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become like
the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the moment. I
don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but only
to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered down
or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
strongest will survive.

Keep the faith

andy

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**PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**

	Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to contribute
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	Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of ravers,
Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought out
to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and that
is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how long
it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a tab
on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're supporting
each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 'that
fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the UK!
Please read on, regardless...

	About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
"don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was much
better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks being
released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and diversity
whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, there
is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength again,
and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all of
the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot of us
possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to leave
the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.

	Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
(particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know what
THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do all
that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous amount
of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the old
ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the scene
collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all the
support we've got.

	Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the mainstream
magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground scene
is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly unnecessary.
If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece of
the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of the
music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You know
what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong hands...
we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.

	IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for being in
Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to become
the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
(address below), because we've written some of the internet's most detailed
and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
*stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into production.
You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and send it
to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems with
that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's even a
new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe, send a
blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think - Lee'll kill
me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
(Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to do.
(He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)


All the best,

Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)

hattrixx@happycore.co.uk

www.happycore.co.uk	-	The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
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About 1990 frank de wolf released a series of ep's with minimal techno
tracks on them, I think one of the tracks was called 'drum in a grip' I've
got a remix of it from 96 by the waxdoctor but was wondering if anyone out
there has these that would like to burn them onto a cd for me for a small
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on vinyl
for defs

dave t

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family commitments
in
> the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is probably
the
> most important in this country.
> In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the vibe
> being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become like
> the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the moment.
I
> don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but only
> to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
> through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered down
> or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
> strongest will survive.
>
> Keep the faith
>
> andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> To: Oldskool List
> Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> Importance: High
>
> **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
>
> Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to contribute
> to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3 birds
with
> one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
lists,
> as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
>
> Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of ravers,
> Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought
out
> to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
that
> is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how long
> it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a
tab
> on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
supporting
> each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 'that
> fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the UK!
> Please read on, regardless...
>
> About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
> towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
much
> better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
being
> released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and diversity
> whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, there
> is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength again,
> and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all of
> the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
> they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot of
us
> possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
leave
> the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
>
> Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know what
> THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do
all
> that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
amount
> of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the
old
> ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the scene
> collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all the
> support we've got.
>
> Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the mainstream
> magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
scene
> is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
unnecessary.
> If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece
of
> the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of
the
> music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You know
> what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
hands...
> we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
>
> IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for being
in
> Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to become
> the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
detailed
> and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
> *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
production.
> You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
> Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and send
it
> to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems with
> that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's even
a
> new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe, send
a
> blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think - Lee'll
kill
> me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to do.
> (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
>
> hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>
> www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> sorted!
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

There are people making old skool tunes, even some big DJs but it's a matter 
of releasing it at the right time and being prepared to take the risk of 
losing money on the first releases........

It WILL happen though, I know it will.

You'll see! The revival of Old Skool will be the next thing to emerge from 
breakbeat culture.

Lee

>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>
>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on 
>vinyl
>for defs
>
>dave t
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family 
>commitments
>in
> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is probably
>the
> > most important in this country.
> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the 
>vibe
> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become 
>like
> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the 
>moment.
>I
> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but 
>only
> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered 
>down
> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
> > strongest will survive.
> >
> > Keep the faith
> >
> > andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > To: Oldskool List
> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > Importance: High
> >
> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> >
> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to 
>contribute
> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3 birds
>with
> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
>lists,
> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> >
> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of 
>ravers,
> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought
>out
> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
>that
> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how 
>long
> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a
>tab
> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>supporting
> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 
>'that
> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the 
>UK!
> > Please read on, regardless...
> >
> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
>much
> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
>being
> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and 
>diversity
> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, 
>there
> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength 
>again,
> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all 
>of
> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot 
>of
>us
> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
>leave
> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> >
> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know 
>what
> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do
>all
> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
>amount
> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the
>old
> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the 
>scene
> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all 
>the
> > support we've got.
> >
> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the 
>mainstream
> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
>scene
> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>unnecessary.
> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece
>of
> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of
>the
> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You 
>know
> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
>hands...
> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> >
> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for 
>being
>in
> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to 
>become
> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
>detailed
> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
>production.
> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and send
>it
> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems 
>with
> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's 
>even
>a
> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe, 
>send
>a
> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think - Lee'll
>kill
> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to 
>do.
> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> >
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> >
> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> >
> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> > sorted!
> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) such a strange love

When is the next Dance '89?  I remember seeing a flyer on my way out but 
couldnt be shittered to pick one up.

Ian



In a message dated 03/04/00 10:20:11 GMT Daylight Time, djphthor@yahoo.com 
writes:

> Wooooh. I've got that one. 
>  Anyone ever been to a "Dance 89"
>  or a "Back to 89" event? JJFrost always plays at them. I
>  think I fancy goint to one. 
>  
>  D

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under attended. 
Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event the 
numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only 
needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even with 
names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.

I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore and 
so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of time 
and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended 
Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I now 
wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or just 
the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so 
sure.

How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers who 
maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too grandady 
I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang up 
for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!). 
Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various 
reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is why 
I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to people 
who adore the same music as me.

So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it the 
same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to 
garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?


andrew


>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>
>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on 
>vinyl
>for defs
>
>dave t
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family 
>commitments
>in
> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is probably
>the
> > most important in this country.
> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the 
>vibe
> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become 
>like
> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the 
>moment.
>I
> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but 
>only
> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered 
>down
> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
> > strongest will survive.
> >
> > Keep the faith
> >
> > andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > To: Oldskool List
> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > Importance: High
> >
> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> >
> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to 
>contribute
> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3 birds
>with
> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
>lists,
> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> >
> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of 
>ravers,
> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought
>out
> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
>that
> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how 
>long
> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a
>tab
> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>supporting
> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 
>'that
> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the 
>UK!
> > Please read on, regardless...
> >
> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
>much
> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
>being
> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and 
>diversity
> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, 
>there
> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength 
>again,
> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all 
>of
> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot 
>of
>us
> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
>leave
> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> >
> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know 
>what
> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do
>all
> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
>amount
> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the
>old
> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the 
>scene
> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all 
>the
> > support we've got.
> >
> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the 
>mainstream
> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
>scene
> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>unnecessary.
> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece
>of
> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of
>the
> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You 
>know
> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
>hands...
> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> >
> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for 
>being
>in
> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to 
>become
> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
>detailed
> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
>production.
> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and send
>it
> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems 
>with
> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's 
>even
>a
> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe, 
>send
>a
> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think - Lee'll
>kill
> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to 
>do.
> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> >
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> >
> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> >
> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> > sorted!
> >
> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Wicked.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> Sent: 03 April 2000 14:03
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org; hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> commitments in
> the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> probably the
> most important in this country.
> In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the vibe
> being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become like
> the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
> the moment. I
> don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but only
> to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
> through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered down
> or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
> strongest will survive.
>
> Keep the faith
>
> andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> Sent:	03 April 2000 13:03
> To:	Oldskool List
> Subject:	(oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> Importance:	High
>
> **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
>
> 	Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the
> time to contribute
> to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> birds with
> one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> mailing lists,
> as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
>
> 	Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a
> bunch of ravers,
> Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> sought out
> to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
> intentions, and that
> is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how long
> it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping a tab
> on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> supporting
> each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 'that
> fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the UK!
> Please read on, regardless...
>
> 	About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you
> about that -
> "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
> towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
> music was much
> better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> tracks being
> released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and diversity
> whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, there
> is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength again,
> and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all of
> the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
> they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that
> a lot of us
> possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
> time to leave
> the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
>
> 	Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know what
> THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> will do all
> that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
> enormous amount
> of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> because the old
> ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the scene
> collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all the
> support we've got.
>
> 	Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all
> the mainstream
> magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> underground scene
> is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> unnecessary.
> If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want
> a piece of
> the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
> ear of the
> music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You know
> what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
> wrong hands...
> we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
>
> 	IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul
> into what
> you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
> for being in
> Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to become
> the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
> most detailed
> and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
> *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> production.
> You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
> Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
> and send it
> to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems with
> that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> There's even a
> new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe, send a
> blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> Lee'll kill
> me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to do.
> (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
>
>
> All the best,
>
> Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
>
> hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>
> www.happycore.co.uk	-	The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> sorted!
>
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

This man knows too much about the situation to be wrong.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lee Richardson [mailto:leerichards48@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 03 April 2000 15:45
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> There are people making old skool tunes, even some big DJs but
> it's a matter
> of releasing it at the right time and being prepared to take the risk of
> losing money on the first releases........
>
> It WILL happen though, I know it will.
>
> You'll see! The revival of Old Skool will be the next thing to
> emerge from
> breakbeat culture.
>
> Lee
>
> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >
> >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
> >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >vinyl
> >for defs
> >
> >dave t
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >commitments
> >in
> > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene
> is probably
> >the
> > > most important in this country.
> > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
> >vibe
> > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
> >like
> > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >moment.
> >I
> > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
> >only
> > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we
> are force fed
> > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
> >down
> > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated
> ideals then the
> > > strongest will survive.
> > >
> > > Keep the faith
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > To: Oldskool List
> > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >
> > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >contribute
> > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To
> hit 3 birds
> >with
> > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
> >lists,
> > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >
> > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >ravers,
> > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I
> have sought
> >out
> > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
> >that
> > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
> >long
> > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping a
> >tab
> > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >supporting
> > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >'that
> > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
> >UK!
> > > Please read on, regardless...
> > >
> > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse
> than it's been
> > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
> >much
> > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
> >being
> > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >diversity
> > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >there
> > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >again,
> > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can
> learn from all
> >of
> > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can
> assure you that
> > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music
> that a lot
> >of
> >us
> > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
> >leave
> > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >
> > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >what
> > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can
> and will do
> >all
> > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >amount
> > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> because the
> >old
> > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >scene
> > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
> >the
> > > support we've got.
> > >
> > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >mainstream
> > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
> >scene
> > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >unnecessary.
> > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will
> want a piece
> >of
> > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right
> pig's ear of
> >the
> > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >know
> > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >hands...
> > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >
> > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >being
> >in
> > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >become
> > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >detailed
> > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd
> also like to
> > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >production.
> > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your
> PC \ Mac \
> > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \
> Girlfriend and send
> >it
> > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
> >with
> > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's
> >even
> >a
> > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe,
> >send
> >a
> > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I
> think - Lee'll
> >kill
> > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to
> >do.
> > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >
> > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >
> > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> > > sorted!
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

	The intelligent come in all ages. Mozart was writing masterpieces when he
was 7 years old. Now you can all shoot me for implying that Oldskool is more
intelligently worked than that other stuff.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> Sent: 03 April 2000 15:09
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise
> the event the
> numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
> Even with
> names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
>
> I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
> hardcore and
> so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent
> alot of time
> and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed
> but I now
> wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old
> skool or just
> the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> sure.
>
> How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
> ravers who
> maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> grandady
> I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who
> are bang up
> for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!).
> Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes.
> Which is why
> I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening
> to people
> who adore the same music as me.
>
> So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore,
> is it the
> same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>
>
> andrew
>
>
> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >
> >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
> >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >vinyl
> >for defs
> >
> >dave t
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >commitments
> >in
> > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene
> is probably
> >the
> > > most important in this country.
> > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
> >vibe
> > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
> >like
> > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >moment.
> >I
> > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
> >only
> > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we
> are force fed
> > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
> >down
> > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated
> ideals then the
> > > strongest will survive.
> > >
> > > Keep the faith
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > To: Oldskool List
> > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >
> > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >contribute
> > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To
> hit 3 birds
> >with
> > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
> >lists,
> > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >
> > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >ravers,
> > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I
> have sought
> >out
> > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
> >that
> > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
> >long
> > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping a
> >tab
> > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >supporting
> > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >'that
> > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
> >UK!
> > > Please read on, regardless...
> > >
> > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse
> than it's been
> > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
> >much
> > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
> >being
> > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >diversity
> > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >there
> > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >again,
> > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can
> learn from all
> >of
> > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can
> assure you that
> > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music
> that a lot
> >of
> >us
> > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
> >leave
> > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >
> > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >what
> > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can
> and will do
> >all
> > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >amount
> > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> because the
> >old
> > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >scene
> > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
> >the
> > > support we've got.
> > >
> > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >mainstream
> > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
> >scene
> > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >unnecessary.
> > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will
> want a piece
> >of
> > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right
> pig's ear of
> >the
> > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >know
> > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >hands...
> > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >
> > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >being
> >in
> > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >become
> > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >detailed
> > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd
> also like to
> > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >production.
> > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your
> PC \ Mac \
> > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \
> Girlfriend and send
> >it
> > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
> >with
> > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's
> >even
> >a
> > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe,
> >send
> >a
> > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I
> think - Lee'll
> >kill
> > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to
> >do.
> > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >
> > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >
> > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> > > sorted!
> > >
> > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Andy, I tried to no avail to persuade the missus to go to this one but even
letting her know that we might be able to get on the list did not help, it's
tricky to get out when you've got a nipper the age of mine. However I am
hoping to make the one after next (I cannot make the next as I will be at a
wedding) that's if the dates are going to be what I think they are.
Providing I can get a babysitter for the whole night and the next day I
think she'll go for it as well. It's just a bit difficult when you have to
get a babysitter for a long term sesh. After all you can't really look after
a baby on a comedown. Still sooner or later I shall be attending then we can
hook up for some hardcore madness...andy

-----Original Message-----
From:	andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
Sent:	03 April 2000 15:09
To:	oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject:	Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under attended.
Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event the
numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even with
names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.

I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore and
so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of time
and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I now
wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or just
the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
sure.

How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers who
maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too grandady
I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang up
for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!).
Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is why
I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to people
who adore the same music as me.

So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it the
same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?


andrew


>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>
>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
>vinyl
>for defs
>
>dave t
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
>commitments
>in
> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is probably
>the
> > most important in this country.
> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
>vibe
> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
>like
> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
>moment.
>I
> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
>only
> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
>down
> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
> > strongest will survive.
> >
> > Keep the faith
> >
> > andy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > To: Oldskool List
> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > Importance: High
> >
> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> >
> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
>contribute
> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3 birds
>with
> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
>lists,
> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> >
> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
>ravers,
> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought
>out
> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
>that
> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
>long
> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a
>tab
> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>supporting
> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
>'that
> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
>UK!
> > Please read on, regardless...
> >
> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
>much
> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
>being
> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
>diversity
> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
>there
> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
>again,
> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all
>of
> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot
>of
>us
> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
>leave
> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> >
> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
>what
> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do
>all
> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
>amount
> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the
>old
> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
>scene
> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
>the
> > support we've got.
> >
> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
>mainstream
> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
>scene
> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>unnecessary.
> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece
>of
> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of
>the
> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
>know
> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
>hands...
> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> >
> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
>being
>in
> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
>become
> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
>detailed
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> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
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> >
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> >
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> >
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My brother has just told me that there is an old skool hardcore
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Trip 2 the moon part 2 in the bag, part 1 on the way, ravedigger has =
finally made an apperance, ravin im ravin snatched at last and that =
Micky Finn Fantazia Donnington first tune ('Somthin' - Mario Brothers =
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Addiction FM use that frequency but I haven't heard a note from them in six
weeks or so.
They mainly play HH but devote around a third of their time to OS and DNB.

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> My brother has just told me that there is an old skool hardcore
> station playing on 95.2 in London - anyone know who this is?
> 
> Eddie
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 All my e-mail got erased some how.

Can you resend me your address??

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

im in the under 21 catogory, and "most" of my mates are into garage, and
have been since 96/7. Before that they were all into jungle, but were too
young to go out. Most of my mates take charlie, and have not touched pills.
I think this is the main reason the new generation aren't ravers. They are
"scared" of pills, the media has done a good job. also here in London pills
are not the "in" drug. Coke is. And  coke goes with garage, pills go with
hardcore/jungle......

back in the day, everyone did pills, right or wrong?????

it's ecstasy that made the scene, and without people getting introduced to
the drug, you wont have rammed raves, with people raving till the early
hours..

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under attended.
> Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
the
> numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
with
> names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
>
> I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
and
> so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
time
> and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I now
> wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or just
> the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> sure.
>
> How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
who
> maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too grandady
> I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
up
> for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!).
> Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
why
> I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
people
> who adore the same music as me.
>
> So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
the
> same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>
>
> andrew
>
>
> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >
> >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
> >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >vinyl
> >for defs
> >
> >dave t
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >commitments
> >in
> > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
probably
> >the
> > > most important in this country.
> > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
> >vibe
> > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
> >like
> > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >moment.
> >I
> > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
> >only
> > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
fed
> > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
> >down
> > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
the
> > > strongest will survive.
> > >
> > > Keep the faith
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > To: Oldskool List
> > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >
> > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >contribute
> > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
birds
> >with
> > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
> >lists,
> > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >
> > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >ravers,
> > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
sought
> >out
> > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
> >that
> > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
> >long
> > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping
a
> >tab
> > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >supporting
> > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >'that
> > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
> >UK!
> > > Please read on, regardless...
> > >
> > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
been
> > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
> >much
> > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
> >being
> > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >diversity
> > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >there
> > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >again,
> > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
all
> >of
> > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
that
> > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot
> >of
> >us
> > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
> >leave
> > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >
> > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >what
> > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will
do
> >all
> > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >amount
> > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
the
> >old
> > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >scene
> > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
> >the
> > > support we've got.
> > >
> > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >mainstream
> > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
> >scene
> > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >unnecessary.
> > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
piece
> >of
> > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
of
> >the
> > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >know
> > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >hands...
> > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >
> > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >being
> >in
> > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >become
> > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >detailed
> > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
to
> > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >production.
> > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac
\
> > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
send
> >it
> > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
> >with
> > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's
> >even
> >a
> > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe,
> >send
> >a
> > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
Lee'll
> >kill
> > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to
> >do.
> > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >
> > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >
> > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
> > > sorted!
> > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

I think your right and certainly when I was raving week in week out trips 
(to an extent) and pills were by far the most popular drug. I can't imagine 
you "loose it" at garage do's like you can with a good, sweaty, hardcore 
stomp. Infact you'd look like a right prick with everyone else dolled up 
with the condescending coke attitude and you there sweating profusely and 
gurning like a trooper!



>From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:21:05 +0100
>
>im in the under 21 catogory, and "most" of my mates are into garage, and
>have been since 96/7. Before that they were all into jungle, but were too
>young to go out. Most of my mates take charlie, and have not touched pills.
>I think this is the main reason the new generation aren't ravers. They are
>"scared" of pills, the media has done a good job. also here in London pills
>are not the "in" drug. Coke is. And  coke goes with garage, pills go with
>hardcore/jungle......
>
>back in the day, everyone did pills, right or wrong?????
>
>it's ecstasy that made the scene, and without people getting introduced to
>the drug, you wont have rammed raves, with people raving till the early
>hours..
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: andy gugs <g_u_g_s@hotmail.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: 03 April 2000 15:08
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under 
>attended.
> > Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
>the
> > numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> > needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
>with
> > names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not 
>attended.
> >
> > I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
>and
> > so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
>time
> > and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> > Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I 
>now
> > wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or 
>just
> > the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> > sure.
> >
> > How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
>who
> > maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too 
>grandady
> > I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
>up
> > for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while 
>back!).
> > Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> > reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
>why
> > I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
>people
> > who adore the same music as me.
> >
> > So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
>the
> > same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
> > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >
> > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make 
>an
> > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> > >vinyl
> > >for defs
> > >
> > >dave t
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >commitments
> > >in
> > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
>probably
> > >the
> > > > most important in this country.
> > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes 
>and
> > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by 
>the
> > >vibe
> > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever 
>become
> > >like
> > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >moment.
> > >I
> > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, 
>but
> > >only
> > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
>fed
> > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, 
>watered
> > >down
> > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With 
>everyone
> > > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
>the
> > > > strongest will survive.
> > > >
> > > > Keep the faith
> > > >
> > > > andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >contribute
> > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
>birds
> > >with
> > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore 
>mailing
> > >lists,
> > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > > >
> > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >ravers,
> > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
>sought
> > >out
> > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, 
>and
> > >that
> > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter 
>how
> > >long
> > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, 
>keeping
>a
> > >tab
> > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >supporting
> > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> > >'that
> > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in 
>the
> > >UK!
> > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > >
> > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that 
>-
> > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
>been
> > > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music 
>was
> > >much
> > > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a 
>personal
> > > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality 
>tracks
> > >being
> > > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >diversity
> > > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> > >there
> > > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> > >again,
> > > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
>all
> > >of
> > > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the 
>main
> > > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
>that
> > > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a 
>lot
> > >of
> > >us
> > > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time 
>to
> > >leave
> > > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > > >
> > > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> > >what
> > > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and 
>will
>do
> > >all
> > > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> > >amount
> > > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of 
>time
> > > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
>the
> > >old
> > > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> > >scene
> > > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with 
>all
> > >the
> > > > support we've got.
> > > >
> > > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >mainstream
> > > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* 
>underground
> > >scene
> > > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >unnecessary.
> > > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
>piece
> > >of
> > > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
>of
> > >the
> > > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> > >know
> > > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> > >hands...
> > > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > > >
> > > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into 
>what
> > > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> > >being
> > >in
> > > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> > >become
> > > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru 
>website
> > > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >detailed
> > > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
>to
> > > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >production.
> > > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ 
>Mac
>\
> > > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
>send
> > >it
> > > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any 
>problems
> > >with
> > > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. 
>There's
> > >even
> > >a
> > > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would 
>strongly
> > > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To 
>Subscribe,
> > >send
> > >a
> > > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
>Lee'll
> > >kill
> > > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what 
>to
> > >do.
> > > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > > >
> > > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting 
>that
> > > > sorted!
> > > >
> > > >
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>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?


Well I'm 15, and quite a lot of my mates like happy hardcore, drum 'n' bass,
oldskool or all of the above. Mainly because I've forced them to actually
listen to some before they pass completely unfounded judgements on it.

To be honest, I think its a bit of a case of packaging. Mixmag, Ministry and
the rest of them who occasionally declare "trance is cool" or "garage is the
new trance" or whatever give the rave scene a bad name. Consequently, people
dismiss the music without giving it a proper chance. If rave music wasn't
slagged off in this way, and just accepted as a form of dance music like any
other, I don't think our scene would be in the fucked up state its in at the
moment.

But that's not going to happen. So its up to those who have the capacity to
make rational judgements, and challenge what they hear when a magazine owned
by a trance DJ tells you trance is cool (for example). Those who can see
through the media hype, and enjoy the music for what it is have to do
something for our scene. Cos you can be sure nobody else is going to.

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top man Chris, I wish I was 1/2 as mature in my thinking when I was your 
age. Do your mates (who you hav'ent educated)have a go at you for being into 
old skool rather than accepting whats meant to be cool and avin it ibiza or 
ayia napa like we are all supposed to? Are the vast majority indoctrinated 
with the media hype you correctly describe?

it was a damn site easier when I was your age...for me it was hip hop or 
acid house/rave.

>From: "Chris Shaw" <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
>Reply-To: "Chris Shaw" <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:32:38 +0100
>
> >So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
>
>
>Well I'm 15, and quite a lot of my mates like happy hardcore, drum 'n' 
>bass,
>oldskool or all of the above. Mainly because I've forced them to actually
>listen to some before they pass completely unfounded judgements on it.
>
>To be honest, I think its a bit of a case of packaging. Mixmag, Ministry 
>and
>the rest of them who occasionally declare "trance is cool" or "garage is 
>the
>new trance" or whatever give the rave scene a bad name. Consequently, 
>people
>dismiss the music without giving it a proper chance. If rave music wasn't
>slagged off in this way, and just accepted as a form of dance music like 
>any
>other, I don't think our scene would be in the fucked up state its in at 
>the
>moment.
>
>But that's not going to happen. So its up to those who have the capacity to
>make rational judgements, and challenge what they hear when a magazine 
>owned
>by a trance DJ tells you trance is cool (for example). Those who can see
>through the media hype, and enjoy the music for what it is have to do
>something for our scene. Cos you can be sure nobody else is going to.
>
>Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)
>
>
>
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Subject: (oldschool) oldskool jam

There's only one reason I haven't gone to any of the Jams
yet - location! They're a bugger to get to.

--- Hattrixx <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk> wrote:
> 	The intelligent come in all ages. Mozart was writing
> masterpieces when he
> was 7 years old. Now you can all shoot me for implying
> that Oldskool is more
> intelligently worked than that other stuff.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 03 April 2000 15:09
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was,
> sadly, under
> > attended.
> > Even though the promoters made substantial effort to
> publicise
> > the event the
> > numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by
> any means and only
> > needed a few hundred through the door to make it a
> rocking night.
> > Even with
> > names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers
> have not attended.
> >
> > I presumed there was still a large following for the old
> skool
> > hardcore and
> > so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money
> and spent
> > alot of time
> > and effort into trying to promote the music we all love.
> I've attended
> > Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always
> been rammed
> > but I now
> > wonder if the majority attending these are there for the
> old
> > skool or just
> > the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm
> now not quite so
> > sure.
> >
> > How big is the demand, especially with the younger
> generation of
> > ravers who
> > maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without
> sounding too
> > grandady
> > I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than
> me who
> > are bang up
> > for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this
> list a while back!).
> > Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out,
> due to various
> > reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority
> sometimes.
> > Which is why
> > I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and
> listening
> > to people
> > who adore the same music as me.
> >
> > So come on then some of you younger ones what are your
> mates into?
> > When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the
> hardcore,
> > is it the
> > same with you or are you in a minority while most yer
> mates listen to
> > garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
> > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> (IMPORTANT)
> > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >
> > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of
> 90 - 94 to make an
> > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy
> new oldskool on
> > >vinyl
> > >for defs
> > >
> > >dave t
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>;
> <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these
> days (family
> > >commitments
> > >in
> > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the
> hardcore scene
> > is probably
> > >the
> > > > most important in this country.
> > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach
> to all credes and
> > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only
> become stronger by the
> > >vibe
> > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will
> hardcore ever become
> > >like
> > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to
> endure at the
> > >moment.
> > >I
> > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an
> elitist way, but
> > >only
> > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged
> shite we
> > are force fed
> > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed
> around with, watered
> > >down
> > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially
> acceptable. With everyone
> > > > staying together and loving the scene and all
> associated
> > ideals then the
> > > > strongest will survive.
> > > >
> > > > Keep the faith
> > > >
> > > > andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE
> SCENE**
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had
> the time to
> > >contribute
> > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru
> newsletter. To
> > hit 3 birds
> > >with
> > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the
> Hardcore mailing
> > >lists,
> > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru
> newsletter.
> > > >
> > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru
> are a bunch of
> > >ravers,
> > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label
> owners, who I
> > have sought
> > >out
> > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have
> similar intentions, and
> > >that
> > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been
> before - no matter how
> > >long
> > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just
> recruiting,
> > keeping a
> > >tab
> > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their
> pursuits. We're
> > >supporting
> > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone
> thinks they have
> > >'that
> > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if
> you're not in the
> > >UK!
> > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > >
> > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all
> of you about that -
> > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much
> worse
> > than it's been
> 
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Quick question...

Wasn't one of them the VIP remix of Doc Scott's 'Drumz'?

Could be totally wrong though.

Ian


In a message dated 01/04/00 16:35:01 GMT Daylight Time, 
twist@hungryghost.co.uk writes:

> .. you know how 'Terminator' is on Synthetic Hardcore Phonography 003?
>  What's 1 and 2? And were there any releases after 'Terminator'?
>  
>  Is 'Angel' number 2?
>  
>  peace,
>  tWiSt

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your not wrong there mate....I drove 1/2 way round the M25 and then watched 
my girlie (who has a license but not driven in 5yrs) drink water while my 
other two mates hit the doubles and proceeded to make the best of the 
situation (lucky bastards). The bar was open all night......
aaaarrrhhhhhh



>From: DJ PHTHOR <djphthor@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org, hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>Subject: (oldschool) oldskool jam
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 10:05:31 -0700 (PDT)
>
>There's only one reason I haven't gone to any of the Jams
>yet - location! They're a bugger to get to.
>
>--- Hattrixx <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk> wrote:
> > 	The intelligent come in all ages. Mozart was writing
> > masterpieces when he
> > was 7 years old. Now you can all shoot me for implying
> > that Oldskool is more
> > intelligently worked than that other stuff.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: 03 April 2000 15:09
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was,
> > sadly, under
> > > attended.
> > > Even though the promoters made substantial effort to
> > publicise
> > > the event the
> > > numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by
> > any means and only
> > > needed a few hundred through the door to make it a
> > rocking night.
> > > Even with
> > > names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers
> > have not attended.
> > >
> > > I presumed there was still a large following for the old
> > skool
> > > hardcore and
> > > so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money
> > and spent
> > > alot of time
> > > and effort into trying to promote the music we all love.
> > I've attended
> > > Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always
> > been rammed
> > > but I now
> > > wonder if the majority attending these are there for the
> > old
> > > skool or just
> > > the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm
> > now not quite so
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > How big is the demand, especially with the younger
> > generation of
> > > ravers who
> > > maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without
> > sounding too
> > > grandady
> > > I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than
> > me who
> > > are bang up
> > > for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this
> > list a while back!).
> > > Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out,
> > due to various
> > > reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority
> > sometimes.
> > > Which is why
> > > I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and
> > listening
> > > to people
> > > who adore the same music as me.
> > >
> > > So come on then some of you younger ones what are your
> > mates into?
> > > When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the
> > hardcore,
> > > is it the
> > > same with you or are you in a minority while most yer
> > mates listen to
> > > garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >
> > >
> > > andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> > (IMPORTANT)
> > > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > > >
> > > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of
> > 90 - 94 to make an
> > > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy
> > new oldskool on
> > > >vinyl
> > > >for defs
> > > >
> > > >dave t
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>;
> > <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> > (IMPORTANT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these
> > days (family
> > > >commitments
> > > >in
> > > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the
> > hardcore scene
> > > is probably
> > > >the
> > > > > most important in this country.
> > > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach
> > to all credes and
> > > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only
> > become stronger by the
> > > >vibe
> > > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will
> > hardcore ever become
> > > >like
> > > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to
> > endure at the
> > > >moment.
> > > >I
> > > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an
> > elitist way, but
> > > >only
> > > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged
> > shite we
> > > are force fed
> > > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed
> > around with, watered
> > > >down
> > > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially
> > acceptable. With everyone
> > > > > staying together and loving the scene and all
> > associated
> > > ideals then the
> > > > > strongest will survive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep the faith
> > > > >
> > > > > andy
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > > Importance: High
> > > > >
> > > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE
> > SCENE**
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had
> > the time to
> > > >contribute
> > > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru
> > newsletter. To
> > > hit 3 birds
> > > >with
> > > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the
> > Hardcore mailing
> > > >lists,
> > > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru
> > newsletter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru
> > are a bunch of
> > > >ravers,
> > > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label
> > owners, who I
> > > have sought
> > > >out
> > > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have
> > similar intentions, and
> > > >that
> > > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been
> > before - no matter how
> > > >long
> > > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just
> > recruiting,
> > > keeping a
> > > >tab
> > > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their
> > pursuits. We're
> > > >supporting
> > > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone
> > thinks they have
> > > >'that
> > > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if
> > you're not in the
> > > >UK!
> > > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > > >
> > > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all
> > of you about that -
> > > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much
> > worse
> > > than it's been
> >
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>Do your mates (who you hav'ent educated)have a go at you for being into
>old skool rather than accepting whats meant to be cool and avin it ibiza or
>ayia napa like we are all supposed to?

Bit of a mixed bag really. Some of them just dismiss hardcore, some are into
other styles of music and dislike hardcore but have actually given it a
chance. I think its probably about the same as any group of people really. A
bit mixed.

Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)



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i don't go to the jams because they finish at 2. I want to rave all night..

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
----- Original Message ----- 
From: DJ PHTHOR <djphthor@yahoo.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
Sent: 03 April 2000 18:05
Subject: (oldschool) oldskool jam


> There's only one reason I haven't gone to any of the Jams
> yet - location! They're a bugger to get to.
> 
> --- Hattrixx <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk> wrote:
> > The intelligent come in all ages. Mozart was writing
> > masterpieces when he
> > was 7 years old. Now you can all shoot me for implying
> > that Oldskool is more
> > intelligently worked than that other stuff.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: andy gugs [mailto:g_u_g_s@hotmail.com]
> > > Sent: 03 April 2000 15:09
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was,
> > sadly, under
> > > attended.
> > > Even though the promoters made substantial effort to
> > publicise
> > > the event the
> > > numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by
> > any means and only
> > > needed a few hundred through the door to make it a
> > rocking night.
> > > Even with
> > > names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers
> > have not attended.
> > >
> > > I presumed there was still a large following for the old
> > skool
> > > hardcore and
> > > so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money
> > and spent
> > > alot of time
> > > and effort into trying to promote the music we all love.
> > I've attended
> > > Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always
> > been rammed
> > > but I now
> > > wonder if the majority attending these are there for the
> > old
> > > skool or just
> > > the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm
> > now not quite so
> > > sure.
> > >
> > > How big is the demand, especially with the younger
> > generation of
> > > ravers who
> > > maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without
> > sounding too
> > > grandady
> > > I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than
> > me who
> > > are bang up
> > > for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this
> > list a while back!).
> > > Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out,
> > due to various
> > > reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority
> > sometimes.
> > > Which is why
> > > I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and
> > listening
> > > to people
> > > who adore the same music as me.
> > >
> > > So come on then some of you younger ones what are your
> > mates into?
> > > When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the
> > hardcore,
> > > is it the
> > > same with you or are you in a minority while most yer
> > mates listen to
> > > garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >
> > >
> > > andrew
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> > (IMPORTANT)
> > > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > > >
> > > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of
> > 90 - 94 to make an
> > > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy
> > new oldskool on
> > > >vinyl
> > > >for defs
> > > >
> > > >dave t
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>;
> > <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> > (IMPORTANT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these
> > days (family
> > > >commitments
> > > >in
> > > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the
> > hardcore scene
> > > is probably
> > > >the
> > > > > most important in this country.
> > > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach
> > to all credes and
> > > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only
> > become stronger by the
> > > >vibe
> > > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will
> > hardcore ever become
> > > >like
> > > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to
> > endure at the
> > > >moment.
> > > >I
> > > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an
> > elitist way, but
> > > >only
> > > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged
> > shite we
> > > are force fed
> > > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed
> > around with, watered
> > > >down
> > > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially
> > acceptable. With everyone
> > > > > staying together and loving the scene and all
> > associated
> > > ideals then the
> > > > > strongest will survive.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keep the faith
> > > > >
> > > > > andy
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > > Importance: High
> > > > >
> > > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE
> > SCENE**
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had
> > the time to
> > > >contribute
> > > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru
> > newsletter. To
> > > hit 3 birds
> > > >with
> > > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the
> > Hardcore mailing
> > > >lists,
> > > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru
> > newsletter.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru
> > are a bunch of
> > > >ravers,
> > > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label
> > owners, who I
> > > have sought
> > > >out
> > > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have
> > similar intentions, and
> > > >that
> > > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been
> > before - no matter how
> > > >long
> > > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just
> > recruiting,
> > > keeping a
> > > >tab
> > > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their
> > pursuits. We're
> > > >supporting
> > > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone
> > thinks they have
> > > >'that
> > > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if
> > you're not in the
> > > >UK!
> > > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > > >
> > > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all
> > of you about that -
> > > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much
> > worse
> > > than it's been
> > 
> === message truncated ===
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trip wrote:
> 
> na im not after the one with the guy shouting NHS! 

Trip - your after the NHS mix (Absolute 2 #?). 
Mike A - your after the Midnight Mix (Absolute 2 #6)

peace,
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Pirate Station on 95.2 in Central London playing hardcore

Addiction FM?? Although I think someone jumped on this
frequency recently but they seemed to play garage all
the time...
Ant

--- Eddie <eddie@yesmate.com> wrote:
> My brother has just told me that there is an old
> skool hardcore
> station playing on 95.2 in London - anyone know who
> this is?
> 
> Eddie
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 89-90,
they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
need the fuckers now. 

All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if hardcore
dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old scene.
All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy its
unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what makes me
hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday night,
its just fucking class). 

Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of wild
elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
thats just my 2p.

Later,
Ian

At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under attended. 
>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event the 
>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only 
>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even with 
>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
>
>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore and 
>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of time 
>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended 
>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I now 
>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or just 
>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so 
>sure.
>
>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers who 
>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too grandady 
>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang up 
>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!). 
>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various 
>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is why 
>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to people 
>who adore the same music as me.
>
>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it the 
>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to 
>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>
>
>andrew
>
>
>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>>
>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on 
>>vinyl
>>for defs
>>
>>dave t
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>
>>
>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family 
>>commitments
>>in
>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is probably
>>the
>> > most important in this country.
>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the 
>>vibe
>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become 
>>like
>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the 
>>moment.
>>I
>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but 
>>only
>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force fed
>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered 
>>down
>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then the
>> > strongest will survive.
>> >
>> > Keep the faith
>> >
>> > andy
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
>> > To: Oldskool List
>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > Importance: High
>> >
>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
>> >
>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to 
>>contribute
>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3 birds
>>with
>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
>>lists,
>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
>> >
>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of 
>>ravers,
>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have sought
>>out
>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
>>that
>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how 
>>long
>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping a
>>tab
>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>>supporting
>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have 
>>'that
>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the 
>>UK!
>> > Please read on, regardless...
>> >
>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's been
>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
>>much
>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
>>being
>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and 
>>diversity
>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE, 
>>there
>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength 
>>again,
>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from all 
>>of
>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you that
>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot 
>>of
>>us
>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
>>leave
>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
>> >
>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know 
>>what
>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will do
>>all
>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
>>amount
>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because the
>>old
>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the 
>>scene
>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all 
>>the
>> > support we've got.
>> >
>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the 
>>mainstream
>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
>>scene
>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>>unnecessary.
>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a piece
>>of
>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear of
>>the
>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You 
>>know
>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
>>hands...
>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
>> >
>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for 
>>being
>>in
>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to 
>>become
>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
>>detailed
>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like to
>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
>>production.
>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac \
>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and send
>>it
>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems 
>>with
>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's 
>>even
>>a
>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe, 
>>send
>>a
>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think - Lee'll
>>kill
>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to 
>>do.
>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
>> >
>> >
>> > All the best,
>> >
>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
>> >
>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>> >
>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
>> > sorted!
>> >
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Subject: (oldschool) First Sight

Hehe, i just downloaded 2 realaudios of an old BBC Show on Pirate Radio
called first sight.

"My name is kevin, this is dream fm"
"Broadcasting from the privacy of their own bedroom, Dream FM specialise in
a type of music known as Happy Hardcore"

Samples ahoy ;)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

>Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 89-90,
>they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
>need the fuckers now.


To be honest, I think their approval would do more harm than good. It would
result in watering down of the scene in my opinion. There would be some kind
of hardcore version of ATB, Artful Dodger and all the rest of the crappy
commercialised versions of whatever's deemed to be "cool" this week.

Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)




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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Sup Krew,
    The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings, O.D.'s,
Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an underground
vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look under
hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad. No
In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up and
Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR

                                      Yours
                                  Chad Dee
DJ Tripd ON E
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From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


>Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
>still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 89-90,
>they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
>need the fuckers now.
>
>All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if hardcore
>dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old scene.
>All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy its
>unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what makes me
>hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday night,
>its just fucking class).
>
>Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of wild
>elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
>thats just my 2p.
>
>Later,
>Ian
>
>At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
>>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under attended.
>>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
the
>>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
>>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
with
>>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
>>
>>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
and
>>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
time
>>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
>>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I now
>>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or just
>>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
>>sure.
>>
>>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
who
>>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too grandady
>>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
up
>>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!).
>>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
>>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
why
>>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
people
>>who adore the same music as me.
>>
>>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
>>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
the
>>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
>>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>>
>>
>>andrew
>>
>>
>>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
>>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>>>
>>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
>>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
>>>vinyl
>>>for defs
>>>
>>>dave t
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>>
>>>
>>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
>>>commitments
>>>in
>>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
probably
>>>the
>>> > most important in this country.
>>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
>>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
>>>vibe
>>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
>>>like
>>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
>>>moment.
>>>I
>>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
>>>only
>>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
fed
>>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
>>>down
>>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
>>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
the
>>> > strongest will survive.
>>> >
>>> > Keep the faith
>>> >
>>> > andy
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
>>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
>>> > To: Oldskool List
>>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>> > Importance: High
>>> >
>>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
>>> >
>>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
>>>contribute
>>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
birds
>>>with
>>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
>>>lists,
>>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
>>> >
>>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
>>>ravers,
>>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
sought
>>>out
>>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
>>>that
>>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
>>>long
>>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping
a
>>>tab
>>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>>>supporting
>>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
>>>'that
>>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
>>>UK!
>>> > Please read on, regardless...
>>> >
>>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
>>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
been
>>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
>>>much
>>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
>>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
>>>being
>>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
>>>diversity
>>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
>>>there
>>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
>>>again,
>>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
all
>>>of
>>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
>>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
that
>>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot
>>>of
>>>us
>>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
>>>leave
>>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
>>> >
>>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
>>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
>>>what
>>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will
do
>>>all
>>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
>>>amount
>>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
>>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
the
>>>old
>>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
>>>scene
>>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
>>>the
>>> > support we've got.
>>> >
>>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
>>>mainstream
>>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
>>>scene
>>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>>>unnecessary.
>>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
piece
>>>of
>>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
of
>>>the
>>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
>>>know
>>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
>>>hands...
>>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
>>> >
>>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
>>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
>>>being
>>>in
>>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
>>>become
>>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
>>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
>>>detailed
>>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
to
>>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
>>>production.
>>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac
\
>>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
send
>>>it
>>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
>>>with
>>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's
>>>even
>>>a
>>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
>>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe,
>>>send
>>>a
>>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
Lee'll
>>>kill
>>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
>>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to
>>>do.
>>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > All the best,
>>> >
>>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
>>> >
>>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>>> >
>>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
>>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting that
>>> > sorted!
>>> >
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Addiction went down alittle while ago after someone nicked their equipment.

Paul.

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>Addiction FM use that frequency but I haven't heard a note from them in six
>weeks or so.
>They mainly play HH but devote around a third of their time to OS and DNB.
>
>Eddie wrote:
>>
>> My brother has just told me that there is an old skool hardcore
>> station playing on 95.2 in London - anyone know who this is?
>>
>> Eddie
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young people
get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.
Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im not
too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all night
long)
i just think its a fair point.

----- Original Message -----
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> Sup Krew,
>     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
O.D.'s,
> Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
underground
> vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look under
> hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad. No
> In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up and
> Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
>
>                                       Yours
>                                   Chad Dee
> DJ Tripd ON E
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
> >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 89-90,
> >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
> >need the fuckers now.
> >
> >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
hardcore
> >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
scene.
> >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy its
> >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what makes
me
> >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
night,
> >its just fucking class).
> >
> >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
wild
> >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> >thats just my 2p.
> >
> >Later,
> >Ian
> >
> >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
attended.
> >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
> the
> >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
> with
> >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
attended.
> >>
> >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
> and
> >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
> time
> >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
now
> >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
just
> >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> >>sure.
> >>
> >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
> who
> >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
grandady
> >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
> up
> >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
back!).
> >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
> why
> >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> people
> >>who adore the same music as me.
> >>
> >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
> the
> >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >>
> >>
> >>andrew
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >>>
> >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make
an
> >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >>>vinyl
> >>>for defs
> >>>
> >>>dave t
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >>>commitments
> >>>in
> >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> probably
> >>>the
> >>> > most important in this country.
> >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
and
> >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
the
> >>>vibe
> >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
become
> >>>like
> >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >>>moment.
> >>>I
> >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
but
> >>>only
> >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
> fed
> >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
watered
> >>>down
> >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
everyone
> >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
> the
> >>> > strongest will survive.
> >>> >
> >>> > Keep the faith
> >>> >
> >>> > andy
> >>> >
> >>> > -----Original Message-----
> >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> >>> > To: Oldskool List
> >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>> > Importance: High
> >>> >
> >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> >>> >
> >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >>>contribute
> >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> birds
> >>>with
> >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
mailing
> >>>lists,
> >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> >>> >
> >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >>>ravers,
> >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> sought
> >>>out
> >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
and
> >>>that
> >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
how
> >>>long
> >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
keeping
> a
> >>>tab
> >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >>>supporting
> >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >>>'that
> >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
the
> >>>UK!
> >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> >>> >
> >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
that -
> >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
> been
> >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
was
> >>>much
> >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
personal
> >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
tracks
> >>>being
> >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >>>diversity
> >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >>>there
> >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >>>again,
> >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
> all
> >>>of
> >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
main
> >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
> that
> >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
lot
> >>>of
> >>>us
> >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time
to
> >>>leave
> >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> >>> >
> >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >>>what
> >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
will
> do
> >>>all
> >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >>>amount
> >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
time
> >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
> the
> >>>old
> >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >>>scene
> >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
all
> >>>the
> >>> > support we've got.
> >>> >
> >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >>>mainstream
> >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
underground
> >>>scene
> >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >>>unnecessary.
> >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
> piece
> >>>of
> >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
> of
> >>>the
> >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >>>know
> >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >>>hands...
> >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> >>> >
> >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
what
> >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >>>being
> >>>in
> >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >>>become
> >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
website
> >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >>>detailed
> >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
> to
> >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >>>production.
> >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
Mac
> \
> >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
> send
> >>>it
> >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
problems
> >>>with
> >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
There's
> >>>even
> >>>a
> >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
strongly
> >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
Subscribe,
> >>>send
> >>>a
> >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> Lee'll
> >>>kill
> >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
to
> >>>do.
> >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > All the best,
> >>> >
> >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> >>> >
> >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> >>> >
> >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
that
> >>> > sorted!
> >>> >
> >>> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.

that's where the jack hills come in usefull.



                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: 03 April 2000 22:18
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> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.
> Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im not
> too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
night
> long)
> i just think its a fair point.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blap <blap@home.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > Sup Krew,
> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> O.D.'s,
> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> underground
> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look under
> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
No
> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
and
> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> >
> >                                       Yours
> >                                   Chad Dee
> > DJ Tripd ON E
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
89-90,
> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
> > >need the fuckers now.
> > >
> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> hardcore
> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> scene.
> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
its
> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
makes
> me
> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
> night,
> > >its just fucking class).
> > >
> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
> wild
> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> > >thats just my 2p.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
event
> > the
> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
only
> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
> > with
> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> attended.
> > >>
> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
hardcore
> > and
> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
of
> > time
> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
> now
> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
> just
> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
so
> > >>sure.
> > >>
> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
ravers
> > who
> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> grandady
> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
bang
> > up
> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> back!).
> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
various
> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
is
> > why
> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > people
> > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > >>
> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
it
> > the
> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
make
> an
> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
on
> > >>>vinyl
> > >>>for defs
> > >>>
> > >>>dave t
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >>>commitments
> > >>>in
> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > probably
> > >>>the
> > >>> > most important in this country.
> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
> and
> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
> the
> > >>>vibe
> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> become
> > >>>like
> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >>>moment.
> > >>>I
> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
> but
> > >>>only
> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
force
> > fed
> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> watered
> > >>>down
> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> everyone
> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
then
> > the
> > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Keep the faith
> > >>> >
> > >>> > andy
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>> > Importance: High
> > >>> >
> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >>>contribute
> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> > birds
> > >>>with
> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> mailing
> > >>>lists,
> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >>>ravers,
> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > sought
> > >>>out
> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
> and
> > >>>that
> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
> how
> > >>>long
> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping
> > a
> > >>>tab
> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >>>supporting
> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
have
> > >>>'that
> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
> the
> > >>>UK!
> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
> that -
> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
it's
> > been
> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
> was
> > >>>much
> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> personal
> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> tracks
> > >>>being
> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >>>diversity
> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
THEREFORE,
> > >>>there
> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
strength
> > >>>again,
> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
from
> > all
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
> main
> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
you
> > that
> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
> lot
> > >>>of
> > >>>us
> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
time
> to
> > >>>leave
> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
power
> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
know
> > >>>what
> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> will
> > do
> > >>>all
> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
enormous
> > >>>amount
> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
> time
> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
because
> > the
> > >>>old
> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
the
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
> all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > support we've got.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >>>mainstream
> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> underground
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >>>unnecessary.
> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
> > piece
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
ear
> > of
> > >>>the
> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
You
> > >>>know
> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
wrong
> > >>>hands...
> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
> what
> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
for
> > >>>being
> > >>>in
> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
to
> > >>>become
> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> website
> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >>>detailed
> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
like
> > to
> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >>>production.
> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
> Mac
> > \
> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
and
> > send
> > >>>it
> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> problems
> > >>>with
> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> There's
> > >>>even
> > >>>a
> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> strongly
> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe,
> > >>>send
> > >>>a
> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > Lee'll
> > >>>kill
> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
Richardson
> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
> to
> > >>>do.
> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All the best,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >>> >
> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
> that
> > >>> > sorted!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

good point

----- Original Message -----
From: Lex <Lex1@btinternet.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> > it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
> people
> > get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
>
> that's where the jack hills come in usefull.
>
>
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 03 April 2000 22:18
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
> people
> > get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
> > Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im
not
> > too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
> night
> > long)
> > i just think its a fair point.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: blap <blap@home.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > Sup Krew,
> > >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> > O.D.'s,
> > > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> > underground
> > > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything
that
> > > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look
under
> > > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms,
in
> > > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are
Bad.
> No
> > > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
> and
> > > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> > >
> > >                                       Yours
> > >                                   Chad Dee
> > > DJ Tripd ON E
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and
i'm
> > > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
> 89-90,
> > > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly
dont
> > > >need the fuckers now.
> > > >
> > > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> > hardcore
> > > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> > scene.
> > > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
> its
> > > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
> makes
> > me
> > > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
> > night,
> > > >its just fucking class).
> > > >
> > > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
> > wild
> > > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :)
Welps,
> > > >thats just my 2p.
> > > >
> > > >Later,
> > > >Ian
> > > >
> > > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> > attended.
> > > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
> event
> > > the
> > > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
> only
> > > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
Even
> > > with
> > > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> > attended.
> > > >>
> > > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
> hardcore
> > > and
> > > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
> of
> > > time
> > > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've
attended
> > > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but
I
> > now
> > > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool
or
> > just
> > > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
> so
> > > >>sure.
> > > >>
> > > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
> ravers
> > > who
> > > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> > grandady
> > > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
> bang
> > > up
> > > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> > back!).
> > > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
> various
> > > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
> is
> > > why
> > > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > > people
> > > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > > >>
> > > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
> it
> > > the
> > > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen
to
> > > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>andrew
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > > >>>
> > > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
> make
> > an
> > > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
> on
> > > >>>vinyl
> > > >>>for defs
> > > >>>
> > > >>>dave t
> > > >>>
> > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > > >>>commitments
> > > >>>in
> > > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > > probably
> > > >>>the
> > > >>> > most important in this country.
> > > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
credes
> > and
> > > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger
by
> > the
> > > >>>vibe
> > > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> > become
> > > >>>like
> > > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
the
> > > >>>moment.
> > > >>>I
> > > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist
way,
> > but
> > > >>>only
> > > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
> force
> > > fed
> > > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> > watered
> > > >>>down
> > > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> > everyone
> > > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
> then
> > > the
> > > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Keep the faith
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > andy
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > >>> > Importance: High
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > > >>>contribute
> > > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit
3
> > > birds
> > > >>>with
> > > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> > mailing
> > > >>>lists,
> > > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch
of
> > > >>>ravers,
> > > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > > sought
> > > >>>out
> > > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
intentions,
> > and
> > > >>>that
> > > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no
matter
> > how
> > > >>>long
> > > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> > keeping
> > > a
> > > >>>tab
> > > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > > >>>supporting
> > > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
> have
> > > >>>'that
> > > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not
in
> > the
> > > >>>UK!
> > > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
> > that -
> > > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
> it's
> > > been
> > > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
music
> > was
> > > >>>much
> > > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> > personal
> > > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> > tracks
> > > >>>being
> > > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > > >>>diversity
> > > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
> THEREFORE,
> > > >>>there
> > > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
> strength
> > > >>>again,
> > > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
> from
> > > all
> > > >>>of
> > > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
> > main
> > > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
> you
> > > that
> > > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that
a
> > lot
> > > >>>of
> > > >>>us
> > > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
> time
> > to
> > > >>>leave
> > > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
> power
> > > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
> know
> > > >>>what
> > > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> > will
> > > do
> > > >>>all
> > > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
> enormous
> > > >>>amount
> > > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter
of
> > time
> > > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> because
> > > the
> > > >>>old
> > > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
> the
> > > >>>scene
> > > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene
with
> > all
> > > >>>the
> > > >>> > support we've got.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > > >>>mainstream
> > > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> > underground
> > > >>>scene
> > > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > > >>>unnecessary.
> > > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want
a
> > > piece
> > > >>>of
> > > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
> ear
> > > of
> > > >>>the
> > > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
> You
> > > >>>know
> > > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
> wrong
> > > >>>hands...
> > > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
> > what
> > > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
> for
> > > >>>being
> > > >>>in
> > > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
> to
> > > >>>become
> > > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> > website
> > > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
most
> > > >>>detailed
> > > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
> like
> > > to
> > > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > > >>>production.
> > > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC
\
> > Mac
> > > \
> > > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
> and
> > > send
> > > >>>it
> > > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> > problems
> > > >>>with
> > > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> > There's
> > > >>>even
> > > >>>a
> > > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> > strongly
> > > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> > Subscribe,
> > > >>>send
> > > >>>a
> > > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > > Lee'll
> > > >>>kill
> > > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
> Richardson
> > > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you
what
> > to
> > > >>>do.
> > > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > All the best,
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm
getting
> > that
> > > >>> > sorted!
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
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Subject: (oldschool) Site updated

Bassheads album reviewed, plus new Records of Month from Asylum and 
Progression (Bungalisitc EP!!!!!!!!!!), plus loads more.....

Check it! :-)

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) frank de wulf id

I have some old frank de wulf stuff...

--I have some mixes of the well known Rhythm Device tracks "Acid Rock" and
"Dream Trance" (Have multiple vinyl releases of these, I didn't pull them
out to check the catalog numbers)

--I also have him as The B-Sides vinyl Volume II  with the tracks "Magic
Orchestra" "Freestyle 909" "Latino" and "The Heat of the Moment"
(distributed by Music Man Import records)   (MMI 9004)

--I have him as The B-Sides on the Take 7 compilation cd from Dance Opera /
Antler subway with tracks "Magic Orchestra" and "Compression" (DO 310)

--And I have him as himself on the b-side (not as the b-sides) of the Take 7
megamix vinyl (also from Dance Opera / Antler Subway) doing "Logic State"
(DO 312)

NONE of these records / cds have any dates on them (pathetic, isn't it) but
I'd place them between 88 for the rhythm device tracks up to maybe 92 for
the B-Sides tracks and the "Logic State" track.

I also have a few tracks that were remixed by him... I'd have to do a good
thorough look to be able to tell you what though... I do know he did 2
remixes of Human Resource's "Dominator" that I mentioned in an earlier
thread.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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Subject: (oldschool) frank de wulf id


> About 1990 frank de wolf released a series of ep's with minimal techno
> tracks on them, I think one of the tracks was called 'drum in a grip' I've
> got a remix of it from 96 by the waxdoctor but was wondering if anyone out
> there has these that would like to burn them onto a cd for me for a small
> price...thanks
>
> andy
>
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

damn, I'd die to see any of those artists... man, I'm moving back to england
(been in the US since I was 7)... I can't believe the scene I heard second
hand via raves in Austin, TX (loads of fun, but couldn't hold a candle to
the scene where all the music was actually originating) is making a comeback
now.  I'd love to come back...  I'm getting into some production software
now, trying to learn as much as I can... maybe when I've got my shit
together a little I'll make the trip to the mother country.

aCidbOy
(born brit, raised texan)

----- Original Message -----
From: "andy gugs" <g_u_g_s@hotmail.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 9:08 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under attended.
> Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
the
> numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
with
> names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
>
> I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
and
> so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
time
> and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I now
> wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or just
> the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> sure.
>
> How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
who
> maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too grandady
> I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
up
> for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!).
> Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
why
> I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
people
> who adore the same music as me.
>
> So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
the
> same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>
>
> andrew
>
>
> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >
> >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make an
> >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >vinyl
> >for defs
> >
> >dave t
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >commitments
> >in
> > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
probably
> >the
> > > most important in this country.
> > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes and
> > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
> >vibe
> > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
> >like
> > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >moment.
> >I
> > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
> >only
> > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
fed
> > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
> >down
> > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With everyone
> > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
the
> > > strongest will survive.
> > >
> > > Keep the faith
> > >
> > > andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > To: Oldskool List
> > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > Importance: High
> > >
> > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >
> > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >contribute
> > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
birds
> >with
> > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
> >lists,
> > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >
> > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >ravers,
> > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
sought
> >out
> > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions, and
> >that
> > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
> >long
> > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping
a
> >tab
> > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >supporting
> > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >'that
> > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
> >UK!
> > > Please read on, regardless...
> > >
> > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about that -
> > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
been
> > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music was
> >much
> > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality tracks
> >being
> > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >diversity
> > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >there
> > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >again,
> > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
all
> >of
> > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
that
> > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a lot
> >of
> >us
> > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time to
> >leave
> > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >
> > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >what
> > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will
do
> >all
> > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >amount
> > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of time
> > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
the
> >old
> > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >scene
> > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
> >the
> > > support we've got.
> > >
> > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >mainstream
> > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
> >scene
> > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >unnecessary.
> > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
piece
> >of
> > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
of
> >the
> > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >know
> > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >hands...
> > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >
> > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >being
> >in
> > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >become
> > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru website
> > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >detailed
> > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
to
> > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >production.
> > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac
\
> > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
send
> >it
> > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
> >with
> > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's
> >even
> >a
> > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would strongly
> > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe,
> >send
> >a
> > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
Lee'll
> >kill
> > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
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> > > All the best,
> > >
> > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >
> > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >
> > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT) -- the lack of up-beat breakz

from a foreign perspective, I don't know where breaks have to go but back
towards the oldskool style...
breaks either slowed down to trip hop/big beat speeds, or sped up to
jungle/drum'n'bass speeds...
that 33 revved up to 45 sound of the oldskool hardcore break beats (around
140-160 bpms or so) doesn't appear to be around anymore.  when I think of
all the dancing, I miss that fasty, funky, happy syncopated beat.  drum and
bass is so fast you either move frenetically, or take the slow, hip hop
approach, giving you a dance step on every other beat.  nu skool / big beat
/ electro breaks are more about break dancing.  I think the kids today would
appreciate the higher energy of the oldskool break.  I know the newcomers to
the scene here appreciate tracks by the likes of 2 bad mice and acen when I
play them.

If you think I'm off base here, let me know.  Hell, if you agree with me let
me know.  I'm just interested in feedback.

aCidbOy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hattrixx" <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> This man knows too much about the situation to be wrong.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lee Richardson [mailto:leerichards48@hotmail.com]
> > Sent: 03 April 2000 15:45
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > There are people making old skool tunes, even some big DJs but
> > it's a matter
> > of releasing it at the right time and being prepared to take the risk of
> > losing money on the first releases........
> >
> > It WILL happen though, I know it will.
> >
> > You'll see! The revival of Old Skool will be the next thing to
> > emerge from
> > breakbeat culture.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >
> > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make
an
> > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> > >vinyl
> > >for defs
> > >
> > >dave t
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >commitments
> > >in
> > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene
> > is probably
> > >the
> > > > most important in this country.
> > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
and
> > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
the
> > >vibe
> > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
become
> > >like
> > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >moment.
> > >I
> > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
but
> > >only
> > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we
> > are force fed
> > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
watered
> > >down
> > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
everyone
> > > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated
> > ideals then the
> > > > strongest will survive.
> > > >
> > > > Keep the faith
> > > >
> > > > andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >contribute
> > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To
> > hit 3 birds
> > >with
> > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
mailing
> > >lists,
> > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > > >
> > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >ravers,
> > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I
> > have sought
> > >out
> > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
and
> > >that
> > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
how
> > >long
> > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> > keeping a
> > >tab
> > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >supporting
> > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> > >'that
> > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
the
> > >UK!
> > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > >
> > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
that -
> > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse
> > than it's been
> > > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
was
> > >much
> > > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
personal
> > > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
tracks
> > >being
> > > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >diversity
> > > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> > >there
> > > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> > >again,
> > > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can
> > learn from all
> > >of
> > > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
main
> > > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can
> > assure you that
> > > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music
> > that a lot
> > >of
> > >us
> > > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time
to
> > >leave
> > > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > > >
> > > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> > >what
> > > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can
> > and will do
> > >all
> > > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> > >amount
> > > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
time
> > > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> > because the
> > >old
> > > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> > >scene
> > > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
all
> > >the
> > > > support we've got.
> > > >
> > > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >mainstream
> > > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
underground
> > >scene
> > > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >unnecessary.
> > > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will
> > want a piece
> > >of
> > > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right
> > pig's ear of
> > >the
> > > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> > >know
> > > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> > >hands...
> > > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > > >
> > > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
what
> > > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> > >being
> > >in
> > > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> > >become
> > > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
website
> > > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >detailed
> > > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd
> > also like to
> > > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >production.
> > > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your
> > PC \ Mac \
> > > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \
> > Girlfriend and send
> > >it
> > > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
problems
> > >with
> > > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
There's
> > >even
> > >a
> > > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
strongly
> > > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
Subscribe,
> > >send
> > >a
> > > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I
> > think - Lee'll
> > >kill
> > > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
to
> > >do.
> > > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > > >
> > > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
that
> > > > sorted!
> > > >
> > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

that's horrible... It's sad to hear everyone is doing coke instead of e.
just my humble opinion, but coke is evil.  I know you probably won't listen
to me, but you should avoid the coke.  I've done plenty in my time. every
time you do it it sucks a little more, and its a little harder to turn down.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> im in the under 21 catogory, and "most" of my mates are into garage, and
> have been since 96/7. Before that they were all into jungle, but were too
> young to go out. Most of my mates take charlie, and have not touched
pills.
> I think this is the main reason the new generation aren't ravers. They are
> "scared" of pills, the media has done a good job. also here in London
pills
> are not the "in" drug. Coke is. And  coke goes with garage, pills go with
> hardcore/jungle......
>
> back in the day, everyone did pills, right or wrong?????
>
> it's ecstasy that made the scene, and without people getting introduced to
> the drug, you wont have rammed raves, with people raving till the early
> hours..
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: andy gugs <g_u_g_s@hotmail.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 03 April 2000 15:08
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
attended.
> > Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
> the
> > numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> > needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
> with
> > names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
attended.
> >
> > I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
> and
> > so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
> time
> > and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> > Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
now
> > wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
just
> > the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> > sure.
> >
> > How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
> who
> > maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
grandady
> > I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
> up
> > for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
back!).
> > Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> > reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
> why
> > I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> people
> > who adore the same music as me.
> >
> > So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
> the
> > same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
> > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >
> > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make
an
> > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> > >vinyl
> > >for defs
> > >
> > >dave t
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >commitments
> > >in
> > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> probably
> > >the
> > > > most important in this country.
> > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
and
> > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
the
> > >vibe
> > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
become
> > >like
> > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >moment.
> > >I
> > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
but
> > >only
> > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
> fed
> > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
watered
> > >down
> > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
everyone
> > > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
> the
> > > > strongest will survive.
> > > >
> > > > Keep the faith
> > > >
> > > > andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >contribute
> > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> birds
> > >with
> > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
mailing
> > >lists,
> > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > > >
> > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >ravers,
> > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> sought
> > >out
> > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
and
> > >that
> > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
how
> > >long
> > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
keeping
> a
> > >tab
> > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >supporting
> > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> > >'that
> > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
the
> > >UK!
> > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > >
> > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
that -
> > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
> been
> > > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
was
> > >much
> > > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
personal
> > > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
tracks
> > >being
> > > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >diversity
> > > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> > >there
> > > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> > >again,
> > > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
> all
> > >of
> > > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
main
> > > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
> that
> > > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
lot
> > >of
> > >us
> > > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time
to
> > >leave
> > > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > > >
> > > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> > >what
> > > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
will
> do
> > >all
> > > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> > >amount
> > > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
time
> > > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
> the
> > >old
> > > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> > >scene
> > > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
all
> > >the
> > > > support we've got.
> > > >
> > > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >mainstream
> > > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
underground
> > >scene
> > > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >unnecessary.
> > > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
> piece
> > >of
> > > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
> of
> > >the
> > > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> > >know
> > > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> > >hands...
> > > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > > >
> > > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
what
> > > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> > >being
> > >in
> > > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> > >become
> > > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
website
> > > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >detailed
> > > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
> to
> > > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >production.
> > > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
Mac
> \
> > > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
> send
> > >it
> > > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
problems
> > >with
> > > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
There's
> > >even
> > >a
> > > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
strongly
> > > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
Subscribe,
> > >send
> > >a
> > > > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> Lee'll
> > >kill
> > > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
to
> > >do.
> > > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > > >
> > > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
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that
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

spanish happy hardcore?!?  damn, that does sound like pure cheese.  never
heard any, but you've given me a scare... I live within about a hundred
miles of the US/Mexico border... there is a big element of hispanic culture
here... as I've said before, I think that we're a year or two behind on the
scene... I hope spanish happy hardcore doesn't make a hit over here!!!
ack!!!  man, the shite I've had to put up with already is bad enough!!!

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Preston" <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 1:50 PM
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> Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
> still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 89-90,
> they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
> need the fuckers now.
>
> All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if hardcore
> dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old scene.
> All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy its
> unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what makes
me
> hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
night,
> its just fucking class).
>
> Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of wild
> elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> thats just my 2p.
>
> Later,
> Ian
>
> At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> >I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
attended.
> >Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
the
> >numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> >needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
with
> >names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
> >
> >I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
and
> >so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
time
> >and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> >Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
now
> >wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
just
> >the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> >sure.
> >
> >How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
who
> >maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
grandady
> >I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
up
> >for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while back!).
> >Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> >reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
why
> >I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
people
> >who adore the same music as me.
> >
> >So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> >When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
the
> >same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> >garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >
> >
> >andrew
> >
> >
> >>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >>
> >>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make
an
> >>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >>vinyl
> >>for defs
> >>
> >>dave t
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>
> >>
> >> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >>commitments
> >>in
> >> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
probably
> >>the
> >> > most important in this country.
> >> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
and
> >> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by the
> >>vibe
> >> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever become
> >>like
> >> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >>moment.
> >>I
> >> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way, but
> >>only
> >> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
fed
> >> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with, watered
> >>down
> >> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
everyone
> >> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
the
> >> > strongest will survive.
> >> >
> >> > Keep the faith
> >> >
> >> > andy
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> >> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> >> > To: Oldskool List
> >> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >> > Importance: High
> >> >
> >> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> >> >
> >> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >>contribute
> >> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
birds
> >>with
> >> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
> >>lists,
> >> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> >> >
> >> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >>ravers,
> >> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
sought
> >>out
> >> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
and
> >>that
> >> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter how
> >>long
> >> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting, keeping
a
> >>tab
> >> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >>supporting
> >> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >>'that
> >> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in the
> >>UK!
> >> > Please read on, regardless...
> >> >
> >> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
that -
> >> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
been
> >> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
was
> >>much
> >> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> >> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
tracks
> >>being
> >> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >>diversity
> >> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >>there
> >> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >>again,
> >> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
all
> >>of
> >> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> >> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
that
> >> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
lot
> >>of
> >>us
> >> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time
to
> >>leave
> >> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> >> >
> >> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> >> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >>what
> >> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and will
do
> >>all
> >> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >>amount
> >> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
time
> >> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
the
> >>old
> >> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >>scene
> >> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with all
> >>the
> >> > support we've got.
> >> >
> >> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >>mainstream
> >> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
> >>scene
> >> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >>unnecessary.
> >> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
piece
> >>of
> >> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
of
> >>the
> >> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >>know
> >> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >>hands...
> >> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> >> >
> >> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> >> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >>being
> >>in
> >> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >>become
> >> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
website
> >> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >>detailed
> >> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
to
> >> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >>production.
> >> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \ Mac
\
> >> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
send
> >>it
> >> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any problems
> >>with
> >> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists. There's
> >>even
> >>a
> >> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
strongly
> >> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To Subscribe,
> >>send
> >>a
> >> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
Lee'll
> >>kill
> >> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> >> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what to
> >>do.
> >> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All the best,
> >> >
> >> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> >> >
> >> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> >> >
> >> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> >> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
that
> >> > sorted!
> >> >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

what are jack hills?

----- Original Message -----
From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 6:09 PM
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> good point
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lex <Lex1@btinternet.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > > it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
> > people
> > > get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
> it.
> >
> > that's where the jack hills come in usefull.
> >
> >
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 03 April 2000 22:18
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
> > people
> > > get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
> it.
> > > Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im
> not
> > > too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
> > night
> > > long)
> > > i just think its a fair point.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: blap <blap@home.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Sup Krew,
> > > >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> > > O.D.'s,
> > > > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> > > underground
> > > > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > > > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything
> that
> > > > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look
> under
> > > > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms,
> in
> > > > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > > > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are
> Bad.
> > No
> > > > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut
up
> > and
> > > > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music
must
> > > > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> > > >
> > > >                                       Yours
> > > >                                   Chad Dee
> > > > DJ Tripd ON E
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and
> i'm
> > > > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
> > 89-90,
> > > > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly
> dont
> > > > >need the fuckers now.
> > > > >
> > > > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> > > hardcore
> > > > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> > > scene.
> > > > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so
cheesy
> > its
> > > > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
> > makes
> > > me
> > > > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a
friday
> > > night,
> > > > >its just fucking class).
> > > > >
> > > > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd
of
> > > wild
> > > > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :)
> Welps,
> > > > >thats just my 2p.
> > > > >
> > > > >Later,
> > > > >Ian
> > > > >
> > > > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > > > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> > > attended.
> > > > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
> > event
> > > > the
> > > > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means
and
> > only
> > > > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
> Even
> > > > with
> > > > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> > > attended.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
> > hardcore
> > > > and
> > > > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent
alot
> > of
> > > > time
> > > > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've
> attended
> > > > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed
but
> I
> > > now
> > > > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool
> or
> > > just
> > > > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not
quite
> > so
> > > > >>sure.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
> > ravers
> > > > who
> > > > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> > > grandady
> > > > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who
are
> > bang
> > > > up
> > > > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> > > back!).
> > > > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
> > various
> > > > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes.
Which
> > is
> > > > why
> > > > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening
to
> > > > people
> > > > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > > > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore,
is
> > it
> > > > the
> > > > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen
> to
> > > > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>andrew
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
> > make
> > > an
> > > > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new
oldskool
> > on
> > > > >>>vinyl
> > > > >>>for defs
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>dave t
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > > > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > > > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > > > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > > > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > > > >>>commitments
> > > > >>>in
> > > > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene
is
> > > > probably
> > > > >>>the
> > > > >>> > most important in this country.
> > > > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
> credes
> > > and
> > > > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger
> by
> > > the
> > > > >>>vibe
> > > > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> > > become
> > > > >>>like
> > > > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
> the
> > > > >>>moment.
> > > > >>>I
> > > > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist
> way,
> > > but
> > > > >>>only
> > > > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
> > force
> > > > fed
> > > > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> > > watered
> > > > >>>down
> > > > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> > > everyone
> > > > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated
ideals
> > then
> > > > the
> > > > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Keep the faith
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > andy
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > > > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > >>> > Importance: High
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time
to
> > > > >>>contribute
> > > > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To
hit
> 3
> > > > birds
> > > > >>>with
> > > > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> > > mailing
> > > > >>>lists,
> > > > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch
> of
> > > > >>>ravers,
> > > > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I
have
> > > > sought
> > > > >>>out
> > > > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
> intentions,
> > > and
> > > > >>>that
> > > > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no
> matter
> > > how
> > > > >>>long
> > > > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> > > keeping
> > > > a
> > > > >>>tab
> > > > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits.
We're
> > > > >>>supporting
> > > > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
> > have
> > > > >>>'that
> > > > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not
> in
> > > the
> > > > >>>UK!
> > > > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you
about
> > > that -
> > > > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
> > it's
> > > > been
> > > > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
> music
> > > was
> > > > >>>much
> > > > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> > > personal
> > > > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more
quality
> > > tracks
> > > > >>>being
> > > > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness
and
> > > > >>>diversity
> > > > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
> > THEREFORE,
> > > > >>>there
> > > > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
> > strength
> > > > >>>again,
> > > > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
> > from
> > > > all
> > > > >>>of
> > > > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of
the
> > > main
> > > > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can
assure
> > you
> > > > that
> > > > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music
that
> a
> > > lot
> > > > >>>of
> > > > >>>us
> > > > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
> > time
> > > to
> > > > >>>leave
> > > > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
> > power
> > > > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want,
and
> > know
> > > > >>>what
> > > > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can
and
> > > will
> > > > do
> > > > >>>all
> > > > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
> > enormous
> > > > >>>amount
> > > > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter
> of
> > > time
> > > > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> > because
> > > > the
> > > > >>>old
> > > > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst,
and
> > the
> > > > >>>scene
> > > > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene
> with
> > > all
> > > > >>>the
> > > > >>> > support we've got.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > > > >>>mainstream
> > > > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> > > underground
> > > > >>>scene
> > > > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are
highly
> > > > >>>unnecessary.
> > > > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will
want
> a
> > > > piece
> > > > >>>of
> > > > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right
pig's
> > ear
> > > > of
> > > > >>>the
> > > > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually
care.
> > You
> > > > >>>know
> > > > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
> > wrong
> > > > >>>hands...
> > > > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul
into
> > > what
> > > > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial
reward
> > for
> > > > >>>being
> > > > >>>in
> > > > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone
wanting
> > to
> > > > >>>become
> > > > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> > > website
> > > > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
> most
> > > > >>>detailed
> > > > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd
also
> > like
> > > > to
> > > > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get
into
> > > > >>>production.
> > > > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your
PC
> \
> > > Mac
> > > > \
> > > > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \
Girlfriend
> > and
> > > > send
> > > > >>>it
> > > > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> > > problems
> > > > >>>with
> > > > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> > > There's
> > > > >>>even
> > > > >>>a
> > > > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> > > strongly
> > > > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> > > Subscribe,
> > > > >>>send
> > > > >>>a
> > > > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I
think -
> > > > Lee'll
> > > > >>>kill
> > > > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
> > Richardson
> > > > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you
> what
> > > to
> > > > >>>do.
> > > > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > All the best,
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > > > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm
> getting
> > > that
> > > > >>> > sorted!
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

hmm... based on what trip said about not being able to dance to oldskool,
sounds like my prediction may be way off base...  How can you not want to
dance to a stomper like 2 bad mice - bombscare/hold it down or one of the
umpteen other funky breaks that came out of the oldskool scene?

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
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To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> damn, I'd die to see any of those artists... man, I'm moving back to
england
> (been in the US since I was 7)... I can't believe the scene I heard second
> hand via raves in Austin, TX (loads of fun, but couldn't hold a candle to
> the scene where all the music was actually originating) is making a
comeback
> now.  I'd love to come back...  I'm getting into some production software
> now, trying to learn as much as I can... maybe when I've got my shit
> together a little I'll make the trip to the mother country.
>
> aCidbOy
> (born brit, raised texan)
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "andy gugs" <g_u_g_s@hotmail.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
attended.
> > Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the event
> the
> > numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> > needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
> with
> > names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
attended.
> >
> > I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool hardcore
> and
> > so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot of
> time
> > and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> > Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
now
> > wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
just
> > the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> > sure.
> >
> > How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of ravers
> who
> > maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
grandady
> > I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are bang
> up
> > for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
back!).
> > Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> > reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which is
> why
> > I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> people
> > who adore the same music as me.
> >
> > So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is it
> the
> > same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >
> >
> > andrew
> >
> >
> > >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >
> > >surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to make
an
> > >'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> > >vinyl
> > >for defs
> > >
> > >dave t
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >commitments
> > >in
> > > > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> probably
> > >the
> > > > most important in this country.
> > > > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
and
> > > > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
the
> > >vibe
> > > > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
become
> > >like
> > > > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >moment.
> > >I
> > > > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
but
> > >only
> > > > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are force
> fed
> > > > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
watered
> > >down
> > > > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
everyone
> > > > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals then
> the
> > > > strongest will survive.
> > > >
> > > > Keep the faith
> > > >
> > > > andy
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > > > To: Oldskool List
> > > > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > > > Importance: High
> > > >
> > > > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >contribute
> > > > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> birds
> > >with
> > > > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
mailing
> > >lists,
> > > > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > > >
> > > > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >ravers,
> > > > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> sought
> > >out
> > > > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
and
> > >that
> > > > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
how
> > >long
> > > > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
keeping
> a
> > >tab
> > > > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >supporting
> > > > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> > >'that
> > > > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
the
> > >UK!
> > > > Please read on, regardless...
> > > >
> > > > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
that -
> > > > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than it's
> been
> > > > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
was
> > >much
> > > > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
personal
> > > > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
tracks
> > >being
> > > > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >diversity
> > > > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> > >there
> > > > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> > >again,
> > > > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn from
> all
> > >of
> > > > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
main
> > > > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure you
> that
> > > > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
lot
> > >of
> > >us
> > > > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be time
to
> > >leave
> > > > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > > >
> > > > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> > > > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> > >what
> > > > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
will
> do
> > >all
> > > > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> > >amount
> > > > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
time
> > > > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, because
> the
> > >old
> > > > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> > >scene
> > > > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
all
> > >the
> > > > support we've got.
> > > >
> > > > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >mainstream
> > > > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
underground
> > >scene
> > > > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >unnecessary.
> > > > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
> piece
> > >of
> > > > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's ear
> of
> > >the
> > > > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> > >know
> > > > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> > >hands...
> > > > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > > >
> > > > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
what
> > > > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> > >being
> > >in
> > > > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> > >become
> > > > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
website
> > > > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >detailed
> > > > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also like
> to
> > > > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >production.
> > > > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
Mac
> \
> > > > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend and
> send
> > >it
> > > > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
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> > >with
> > > > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
There's
> > >even
> > >a
> > > > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
strongly
> > > > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
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> > > > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> > > > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
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> > >do.
> > > > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > > >
> > > > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > > >
> > > > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
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Subject: (oldschool) a couple easy hardcore IDs  ; )

Hi- here's a couple hardcore & jungle IDs I need -i can encode em if need 
be, but I think they're pretty basic
1. hardcore 92/93 -features female sample "can't wait tonight , " " ,  can't 
wait toniiiiighht" -i think that what's she's saying

2. 93/94 dark jungle -dark as fuck noises with a ragga sample sped up saying 
"COME CROSS!" -then pitched way down "come cross!"

3. 95 drum and bass -r&b sample of a girl singing "let's get 
together...let's take it slow" repeated over steppy 94/95 jump up style 
-then vocals sing something like "wooohh yeahhhhhhhh" and it breaksdown- 
...I think....

any ideas????

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Subject: (oldschool) Rogue Trooper review needed

who was behing this label? can anyone recommend some good releases? I have 
one 1995 Bizzy B remix tune that is rather interesting, and the cat. # is 
around "030" so there must be a bunch of good 94/95 stuff prior to this -any 
knowledge?

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Subject: Re: (oldschool) arsewipe

Thanking you very much :) Needed to know that one for years!

>From: tWiSt <twist@hungryghost.co.uk>
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>
>trip wrote:
> >
> > na im not after the one with the guy shouting NHS!
>
>Trip - your after the NHS mix (Absolute 2 #?).
>Mike A - your after the Midnight Mix (Absolute 2 #6)
>
>peace,
>tWiSt
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) frank de wulf id

Hello m8

It's the b-sides I'm interested in, are you able for burn them onto a cd for
a price...???

Andy


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Subject:	Re: (oldschool) frank de wulf id

I have some old frank de wulf stuff...

--I have some mixes of the well known Rhythm Device tracks "Acid Rock" and
"Dream Trance" (Have multiple vinyl releases of these, I didn't pull them
out to check the catalog numbers)

--I also have him as The B-Sides vinyl Volume II  with the tracks "Magic
Orchestra" "Freestyle 909" "Latino" and "The Heat of the Moment"
(distributed by Music Man Import records)   (MMI 9004)

--I have him as The B-Sides on the Take 7 compilation cd from Dance Opera /
Antler subway with tracks "Magic Orchestra" and "Compression" (DO 310)

--And I have him as himself on the b-side (not as the b-sides) of the Take 7
megamix vinyl (also from Dance Opera / Antler Subway) doing "Logic State"
(DO 312)

NONE of these records / cds have any dates on them (pathetic, isn't it) but
I'd place them between 88 for the rhythm device tracks up to maybe 92 for
the B-Sides tracks and the "Logic State" track.

I also have a few tracks that were remixed by him... I'd have to do a good
thorough look to be able to tell you what though... I do know he did 2
remixes of Human Resource's "Dominator" that I mentioned in an earlier
thread.

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> About 1990 frank de wolf released a series of ep's with minimal techno
> tracks on them, I think one of the tracks was called 'drum in a grip' I've
> got a remix of it from 96 by the waxdoctor but was wondering if anyone out
> there has these that would like to burn them onto a cd for me for a small
> price...thanks
>
> andy
>
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Surely all you have to do is bounce around, I've never been able to dance
and in fact probably have 3 left feet. So fucking what, just get on down and
partay...andy

-----Original Message-----
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> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.

that's where the jack hills come in usefull.



                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.
> Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im not
> too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
night
> long)
> i just think its a fair point.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blap <blap@home.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > Sup Krew,
> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> O.D.'s,
> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> underground
> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look under
> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
No
> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
and
> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> >
> >                                       Yours
> >                                   Chad Dee
> > DJ Tripd ON E
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
89-90,
> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
> > >need the fuckers now.
> > >
> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> hardcore
> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> scene.
> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
its
> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
makes
> me
> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
> night,
> > >its just fucking class).
> > >
> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
> wild
> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> > >thats just my 2p.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
event
> > the
> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
only
> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
> > with
> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> attended.
> > >>
> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
hardcore
> > and
> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
of
> > time
> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
> now
> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
> just
> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
so
> > >>sure.
> > >>
> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
ravers
> > who
> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> grandady
> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
bang
> > up
> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> back!).
> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
various
> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
is
> > why
> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > people
> > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > >>
> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
it
> > the
> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
make
> an
> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
on
> > >>>vinyl
> > >>>for defs
> > >>>
> > >>>dave t
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >>>commitments
> > >>>in
> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > probably
> > >>>the
> > >>> > most important in this country.
> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
> and
> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
> the
> > >>>vibe
> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> become
> > >>>like
> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >>>moment.
> > >>>I
> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
> but
> > >>>only
> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
force
> > fed
> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> watered
> > >>>down
> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> everyone
> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
then
> > the
> > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Keep the faith
> > >>> >
> > >>> > andy
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>> > Importance: High
> > >>> >
> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >>>contribute
> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> > birds
> > >>>with
> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> mailing
> > >>>lists,
> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >>>ravers,
> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > sought
> > >>>out
> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
> and
> > >>>that
> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
> how
> > >>>long
> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping
> > a
> > >>>tab
> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >>>supporting
> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
have
> > >>>'that
> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
> the
> > >>>UK!
> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
> that -
> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
it's
> > been
> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
> was
> > >>>much
> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> personal
> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> tracks
> > >>>being
> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >>>diversity
> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
THEREFORE,
> > >>>there
> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
strength
> > >>>again,
> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
from
> > all
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
> main
> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
you
> > that
> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
> lot
> > >>>of
> > >>>us
> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
time
> to
> > >>>leave
> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
power
> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
know
> > >>>what
> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> will
> > do
> > >>>all
> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
enormous
> > >>>amount
> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
> time
> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
because
> > the
> > >>>old
> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
the
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
> all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > support we've got.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >>>mainstream
> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> underground
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >>>unnecessary.
> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
> > piece
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
ear
> > of
> > >>>the
> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
You
> > >>>know
> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
wrong
> > >>>hands...
> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
> what
> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
for
> > >>>being
> > >>>in
> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
to
> > >>>become
> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> website
> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >>>detailed
> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
like
> > to
> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >>>production.
> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
> Mac
> > \
> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
and
> > send
> > >>>it
> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> problems
> > >>>with
> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> There's
> > >>>even
> > >>>a
> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> strongly
> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe,
> > >>>send
> > >>>a
> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > Lee'll
> > >>>kill
> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
Richardson
> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
> to
> > >>>do.
> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All the best,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >>> >
> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
> that
> > >>> > sorted!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) mp3 request

i got it in real audio format

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Sent: 02 April 2000 18:11
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Subject: (oldschool) mp3 request


Well, after last night I now have a request for a tune I absolutely HAVE to
have an mp3 of - made me go nuts both times they played it !

According to SmartE it's :

why ? - d'livin

easily identifiable by the "Tracks so nice gotta hear it twice !" sample
so, who has a copy ?
Upload to Acidboys or email it to me pls


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) arsewipe

so what about the tune i sent you?
any ideas?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Mike A <mike_ainley@hotmail.com>
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> Thanking you very much :) Needed to know that one for years!
> 
> >From: tWiSt <twist@hungryghost.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) arsewipe
> >Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:40:13 +0200
> >
> >trip wrote:
> > >
> > > na im not after the one with the guy shouting NHS!
> >
> >Trip - your after the NHS mix (Absolute 2 #?).
> >Mike A - your after the Midnight Mix (Absolute 2 #6)
> >
> >peace,
> >tWiSt
> >
> >FutPrim - www.future-primitive.co.uk
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) a couple easy hardcore IDs  ; )

the first tune is on strictly hardcore or underground i think its by mdm or
high &dry  ive got that tune on a stictly hardcore L.P.

thats all i can do to help
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:49 AM
Subject: (oldschool) a couple easy hardcore IDs ; )


> Hi- here's a couple hardcore & jungle IDs I need -i can encode em if need
> be, but I think they're pretty basic
> 1. hardcore 92/93 -features female sample "can't wait tonight , " " ,
can't
> wait toniiiiighht" -i think that what's she's saying
>
> 2. 93/94 dark jungle -dark as fuck noises with a ragga sample sped up
saying
> "COME CROSS!" -then pitched way down "come cross!"
>
> 3. 95 drum and bass -r&b sample of a girl singing "let's get
> together...let's take it slow" repeated over steppy 94/95 jump up style
> -then vocals sing something like "wooohh yeahhhhhhhh" and it breaksdown-
> ...I think....
>
> any ideas????
>
> Liam
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID

Did those Abbie Hoffmans on Saturday.  FUCK ME THEY WERE STRONG.  At the
peak I didn't know whether i was coming or going.  Got very close to
freaking out.  Doron, they were fucking mad weren't they?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 01 April 2000 19:08
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don't know anyone who has actually dropped it in their eyes... Thing is, do
you really trust the guy that made the liquid well enought to do something
that might permanently damage your eyesight?  not me!

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID


> you done that?
>
> i heard of people putting tabs under their eyeballs.
>
> fuck me, i thought i was crazy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: evilC [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:12
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>
>
> try putting a drop in each eye... un fucking beleivable !!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:04
> > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > SOME CLEAR LIQUID TO SORT YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!!!
> >
> > FUCK ME.. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET MT HANDS ON THAT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:01
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA
powder
> > also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:52
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem
like
> a
> > > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know
how
> i
> > > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently
they
> > are
> > > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:41
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially
the
> > > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years
back.
> I
> > > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:37
> > > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DJ PHTHOR [mailto:djphthor@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 08:58
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > > done these before?
> > > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > > >
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Absolutely mind-blowing!!!!!

Scary shit.........

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 04 April 2000 09:54
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Did those Abbie Hoffmans on Saturday.  FUCK ME THEY WERE STRONG.  At the
peak I didn't know whether i was coming or going.  Got very close to
freaking out.  Doron, they were fucking mad weren't they?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 01 April 2000 19:08
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID


don't know anyone who has actually dropped it in their eyes... Thing is, do
you really trust the guy that made the liquid well enought to do something
that might permanently damage your eyesight?  not me!

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
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> you done that?
>
> i heard of people putting tabs under their eyeballs.
>
> fuck me, i thought i was crazy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: evilC [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:12
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
>
>
> try putting a drop in each eye... un fucking beleivable !!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:04
> > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > SOME CLEAR LIQUID TO SORT YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!!!
> >
> > FUCK ME.. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET MT HANDS ON THAT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:01
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA
powder
> > also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:52
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem
like
> a
> > > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know
how
> i
> > > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently
they
> > are
> > > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:41
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially
the
> > > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years
back.
> I
> > > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:37
> > > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DJ PHTHOR [mailto:djphthor@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 08:58
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > > done these before?
> > > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > > >
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"Right, lets get some rizla"

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Absolutely mind-blowing!!!!!

Scary shit.........

-----Original Message-----
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Did those Abbie Hoffmans on Saturday.  FUCK ME THEY WERE STRONG.  At the
peak I didn't know whether i was coming or going.  Got very close to
freaking out.  Doron, they were fucking mad weren't they?

-----Original Message-----
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don't know anyone who has actually dropped it in their eyes... Thing is, do
you really trust the guy that made the liquid well enought to do something
that might permanently damage your eyesight?  not me!

aCidbOy
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From: "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
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Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 5:16 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID


> you done that?
>
> i heard of people putting tabs under their eyeballs.
>
> fuck me, i thought i was crazy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: evilC [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:12
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
>
>
> try putting a drop in each eye... un fucking beleivable !!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:04
> > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > SOME CLEAR LIQUID TO SORT YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!!!
> >
> > FUCK ME.. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET MT HANDS ON THAT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:01
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA
powder
> > also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:52
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem
like
> a
> > > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know
how
> i
> > > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently
they
> > are
> > > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:41
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially
the
> > > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years
back.
> I
> > > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:37
> > > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DJ PHTHOR [mailto:djphthor@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 08:58
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > > done these before?
> > > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > > >
> > > >
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A solid 6-hour rizla hunt!

-----Original Message-----
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"Right, lets get some rizla"

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID


Absolutely mind-blowing!!!!!

Scary shit.........

-----Original Message-----
From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
Sent: 04 April 2000 09:54
To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID


Did those Abbie Hoffmans on Saturday.  FUCK ME THEY WERE STRONG.  At the
peak I didn't know whether i was coming or going.  Got very close to
freaking out.  Doron, they were fucking mad weren't they?

-----Original Message-----
From: aCidbOy [mailto:aCidbOy@satx.rr.com]
Sent: 01 April 2000 19:08
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID


don't know anyone who has actually dropped it in their eyes... Thing is, do
you really trust the guy that made the liquid well enought to do something
that might permanently damage your eyesight?  not me!

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, March 31, 2000 5:16 AM
Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID


> you done that?
>
> i heard of people putting tabs under their eyeballs.
>
> fuck me, i thought i was crazy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: evilC [mailto:evilc@evilc.com]
> Sent: 31 March 2000 12:12
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
>
>
> try putting a drop in each eye... un fucking beleivable !!
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:04
> > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > SOME CLEAR LIQUID TO SORT YOUR HEAD OUT!!!!!!
> >
> > FUCK ME.. I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO GET MT HANDS ON THAT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 12:01
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > i don't touch the stuff myself, but my mate who gets the pure MDMA
powder
> > also gets liquid LSD in a bottle....i've heard it's pretty lethal
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Gold, Jonathan <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:52
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> >
> >
> > > i had that when i did a fat freddie. made the purple ohm i did seem
like
> a
> > > glass of sherry in comparison. I ended up at home and i didn't know
how
> i
> > > got there. I got these Abbie Hoffmans at the moment and apparently
they
> > are
> > > of equal strength. Cartoon stylee.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Andy Kempster [mailto:akempster@randrplc.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:41
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Pretty good, they were probably the best trips ever made (especially
the
> > > doubles) I nearly lost my sanity on those all together a few years
back.
> I
> > > had to completely rethink my acid abuse from there on...andy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gold, Jonathan [mailto:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 10:37
> > > To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > > i done a purple ohm a while back. pretty good
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: DJ PHTHOR [mailto:djphthor@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: 31 March 2000 08:58
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) ACID
> > >
> > >
> > > Last time I did that was in the first half of the 90s.
> > > MBS was 'big' then, aka 'Purplr Ohm'.
> > >
> > > D
> > >
> > > --- "Gold, Jonathan" <Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I managed to get hold of some Abbie Hoffman's. Has anyone
> > > > done these before?
> > > > I hear they are of Fat Freddie strength.
> > > >
> > > >
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right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot more user =
friendly than another i tried, but i just dont understand how to make 2 =
sounds play at once, a breakbeat and a stab thingy, im sure its simple =
but im sooo thick, once i know how i can mess around with this thing all =
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3

aCidbOy   8 )
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> Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool stuff!
I
> would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> >
> > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was hitting
big
> > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
others... I
> > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from keyboard
> > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as well
as
> > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the old
moog
> > tracks of that period.
> >
> > aCidbOy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <Oxopoly@aol.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> >
> > > In a message dated 3/31/00 4:26:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > >
> > > > Hey everyone,
> > > >
> > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If so,
do
> > you
> > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune, ever!
> > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


> top man Chris, I wish I was 1/2 as mature in my thinking
> when I was your
> age. Do your mates (who you hav'ent educated)have a go at
> you for being into
> old skool rather than accepting whats meant to be cool
> and avin it ibiza or
> ayia napa like we are all supposed to? Are the vast
> majority indoctrinated
> with the media hype you correctly describe?
>
> it was a damn site easier when I was your age...for me it
> was hip hop or
> acid house/rave.

till late 1990 when the scene split - who remembers the "No Vicks -
no pricks" written on a lot of the flyers in Ibiza and in a lot of
the garage/house nights in london in 1991/1992??

A lot of hypocrisy in this as well - I remember Nicky Holloway
slamming breakbreats one minute - then dropping Zero B Lockup the
next.


> >From: "Chris Shaw" <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
> >Reply-To: "Chris Shaw" <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:32:38 +0100
> >
> > >So come on then some of you younger ones what are your
> mates into?
> >
> >
> >Well I'm 15, and quite a lot of my mates like happy
> hardcore, drum 'n'
> >bass,
> >oldskool or all of the above. Mainly because I've forced
> them to actually
> >listen to some before they pass completely unfounded
> judgements on it.
> >
> >To be honest, I think its a bit of a case of packaging.
> Mixmag, Ministry
> >and
> >the rest of them who occasionally declare "trance is
> cool" or "garage is
> >the
> >new trance" or whatever give the rave scene a bad name.
> Consequently,
> >people
> >dismiss the music without giving it a proper chance. If
> rave music wasn't
> >slagged off in this way, and just accepted as a form of
> dance music like
> >any
> >other, I don't think our scene would be in the fucked up
> state its in at
> >the
> >moment.
> >
> >But that's not going to happen. So its up to those who
> have the capacity to
> >make rational judgements, and challenge what they hear
> when a magazine
> >owned
> >by a trance DJ tells you trance is cool (for example).
> Those who can see
> >through the media hype, and enjoy the music for what it
> is have to do
> >something for our scene. Cos you can be sure nobody else
> is going to.
> >
> >Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) rivets wanted ->

HI -anybody got one of these that they'll part with for a price? (or trade- 
please list what you're after- E-mail me privately)

LEWI CIFER - YOU ARE TOO SHY
TEK 9 - DEM A GWAN LIKE DEM KNOW BADNESS / KILLING TIME (Julian?)
RUFIGE KRU - GHOSTS OF MY LIFE
here's a couple other non-reinforced tunes I'm take off somebody's hands
HOUSE CREW- SUPER HERO
X-PROJECT - ? -DUBPLATE 2
CONQUERING LION - CODE BLACK / RASTAMAN
NUT E ONE - SLEEPING SATTELITES????
STUDIO 2 ??   (RAGGA JUNGLE)
KEMET CREW- THE SEED EP (THE OFFICIAL RELEASE WITH VIBE OUT REMIX ON IT)




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Nicki holloway always was a bit of a prick though

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> top man Chris, I wish I was 1/2 as mature in my thinking
> when I was your
> age. Do your mates (who you hav'ent educated)have a go at
> you for being into
> old skool rather than accepting whats meant to be cool
> and avin it ibiza or
> ayia napa like we are all supposed to? Are the vast
> majority indoctrinated
> with the media hype you correctly describe?
>
> it was a damn site easier when I was your age...for me it
> was hip hop or
> acid house/rave.

till late 1990 when the scene split - who remembers the "No Vicks -
no pricks" written on a lot of the flyers in Ibiza and in a lot of
the garage/house nights in london in 1991/1992??

A lot of hypocrisy in this as well - I remember Nicky Holloway
slamming breakbreats one minute - then dropping Zero B Lockup the
next.


> >From: "Chris Shaw" <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
> >Reply-To: "Chris Shaw" <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 17:32:38 +0100
> >
> > >So come on then some of you younger ones what are your
> mates into?
> >
> >
> >Well I'm 15, and quite a lot of my mates like happy
> hardcore, drum 'n'
> >bass,
> >oldskool or all of the above. Mainly because I've forced
> them to actually
> >listen to some before they pass completely unfounded
> judgements on it.
> >
> >To be honest, I think its a bit of a case of packaging.
> Mixmag, Ministry
> >and
> >the rest of them who occasionally declare "trance is
> cool" or "garage is
> >the
> >new trance" or whatever give the rave scene a bad name.
> Consequently,
> >people
> >dismiss the music without giving it a proper chance. If
> rave music wasn't
> >slagged off in this way, and just accepted as a form of
> dance music like
> >any
> >other, I don't think our scene would be in the fucked up
> state its in at
> >the
> >moment.
> >
> >But that's not going to happen. So its up to those who
> have the capacity to
> >make rational judgements, and challenge what they hear
> when a magazine
> >owned
> >by a trance DJ tells you trance is cool (for example).
> Those who can see
> >through the media hype, and enjoy the music for what it
> is have to do
> >something for our scene. Cos you can be sure nobody else
> is going to.
> >
> >Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) OI OI  BOYS

Biggin Up the Old Skool MASSIVE 


IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE.

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From: Dave Curran <dave.curran@connectfree.co.uk>
Subject: Re: (oldschool) Help dave make music!!

Sorry mate, I only know Impulse Tracker but try this (and I'm only guessing)

Use the wav part of the tracker to load all your samples, then the sequencer
should look something like this:

X-X XX XX XXX

Anyway, the first bit is the note, so press the Q key to get a C note, W to
get a D etc, and use the function at the top of the window to change octave.
If you have set the octave to 5 you will see the letter C-5 appear. The next
two XXs are for the sample number, the next two for the volume (64 is the
max) and the last three XXX is for special effects - which I am NOT going
into now.

Therefore after all of this the following:
C-5 01 64 ...
Shows a C note in the fifth octave of sample (wav) number 1 at volume 64
with no special effect applied.


Hope that helps
Dave :-)

At 10:26 04/04/00 +0100, you wrote:
>
>right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
>im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot more user
friendly than another i tried, but i just dont understand how to make 2
sounds play at once, a breakbeat and a stab thingy, im sure its simple but
im sooo thick, once i know how i can mess around with this thing all day,
some elp me im a ree tard!?
>elp please?? 
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> From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
> im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot


Me too!  I've just recently started using modplug tracker to play around
with.  I'm finding it fairly easy to use for basic stuff, I reckon more
advanced stuff will only come with time.

> more user friendly than another i tried, but i just dont
> understand how to make 2 sounds play at once, a breakbeat and
> a stab thingy, im sure its simple but im sooo thick, once i

Have you got both samples loaded in the sample editor (I'll assume you
have).  In the pattern window go into the first channel.  Above the channels
there should be an instrument selector, set this to your first sample (your
drum break).
In the channel press A (which is C5 I think) you should hear your drums
start.
Set the selector for instruments to your second sample (stab), click at the
top of your second channel (make sure you click the most left bit) hit A
again.  Now press F6, which will start the song off.  You should hear the
stab and drums play together.


> know how i can mess around with this thing all day, some elp
> me im a ree tard!?
> elp please??


Hope to hear some toons from you soon then :)

Tim.


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Who went Moondance?

Was it any good?

Where is the next one?


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Tim, thanks so much for the reply, i still cant do it as i dont know how to
load 2 samples to the sample editor? Ive tried the way that seems obvious,
what am i doin wrong. If ive got, say, my break shown as a wav and then i
'import' a sample (my stab) it just replaces the other and my instument list
stays as 0 -none or 1 - stab
rather than 0, 1 or 2. if you know what i mean.
what ma doin wrong

cheers agin
dave t

----- Original Message -----
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> > From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> > right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
> > im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot
>
>
> Me too!  I've just recently started using modplug tracker to play around
> with.  I'm finding it fairly easy to use for basic stuff, I reckon more
> advanced stuff will only come with time.
>
> > more user friendly than another i tried, but i just dont
> > understand how to make 2 sounds play at once, a breakbeat and
> > a stab thingy, im sure its simple but im sooo thick, once i
>
> Have you got both samples loaded in the sample editor (I'll assume you
> have).  In the pattern window go into the first channel.  Above the
channels
> there should be an instrument selector, set this to your first sample
(your
> drum break).
> In the channel press A (which is C5 I think) you should hear your drums
> start.
> Set the selector for instruments to your second sample (stab), click at
the
> top of your second channel (make sure you click the most left bit) hit A
> again.  Now press F6, which will start the song off.  You should hear the
> stab and drums play together.
>
>
> > know how i can mess around with this thing all day, some elp
> > me im a ree tard!?
> > elp please??
>
>
> Hope to hear some toons from you soon then :)
>
> Tim.
>
>
> >
>
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not me i was ill ;-(

dunno (see above)

it was the last one ever ;-(

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> Who went Moondance?
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it wasn't. it was a big hoax as most suspected. Theres one in July

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not me i was ill ;-(

dunno (see above)

it was the last one ever ;-(

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oh what!!!!!!!!!!

Was it defianatly the last one???????

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not me i was ill ;-(

dunno (see above)

it was the last one ever ;-(

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Okay, simple one this, and it caught me out on the first try.  You have to
create a new sample (with the new document button) first, otherwise it just
overwrites sample 1 ('cos it thinks you want to stick a different sample in
that location).

Tim.

> From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> Tim, thanks so much for the reply, i still cant do it as i
> dont know how to
> load 2 samples to the sample editor? Ive tried the way that
> seems obvious,
> what am i doin wrong. If ive got, say, my break shown as a
> wav and then i
> 'import' a sample (my stab) it just replaces the other and my
> instument list
> stays as 0 -none or 1 - stab
> rather than 0, 1 or 2. if you know what i mean.
> what ma doin wrong
>
> cheers agin
> dave t
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Subject: (oldschool) Shock Horror, Dave MAKES MUSIC!



----- Original Message -----
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> Tim, thanks so much for the reply, i still cant do it as i dont know how
to
> load 2 samples to the sample editor? Ive tried the way that seems obvious,
> what am i doin wrong. If ive got, say, my break shown as a wav and then i
> 'import' a sample (my stab) it just replaces the other and my instument
list
> stays as 0 -none or 1 - stab
> rather than 0, 1 or 2. if you know what i mean.
> what ma doin wrong
>
> cheers agin
> dave t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim <tim.parkinson@ccr.ntu.ac.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:59 PM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Help dave make music!!
>
>
> > > From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> > > right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
> > > im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot
> >
> >
> > Me too!  I've just recently started using modplug tracker to play around
> > with.  I'm finding it fairly easy to use for basic stuff, I reckon more
> > advanced stuff will only come with time.
> >
> > > more user friendly than another i tried, but i just dont
> > > understand how to make 2 sounds play at once, a breakbeat and
> > > a stab thingy, im sure its simple but im sooo thick, once i
> >
> > Have you got both samples loaded in the sample editor (I'll assume you
> > have).  In the pattern window go into the first channel.  Above the
> channels
> > there should be an instrument selector, set this to your first sample
> (your
> > drum break).
> > In the channel press A (which is C5 I think) you should hear your drums
> > start.
> > Set the selector for instruments to your second sample (stab), click at
> the
> > top of your second channel (make sure you click the most left bit) hit A
> > again.  Now press F6, which will start the song off.  You should hear
the
> > stab and drums play together.
> >
> >
> > > know how i can mess around with this thing all day, some elp
> > > me im a ree tard!?
> > > elp please??
> >
> >
> > Hope to hear some toons from you soon then :)
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
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Subject: (oldschool) daves Problem solved

ooooohhhhhhh iiiiiiii seeeeeeeee!!!!

i can do it now!!
cheers agin Tim

im off to rebuild the harcore scene

cheeers
dave t
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> Tim, thanks so much for the reply, i still cant do it as i dont know how
to
> load 2 samples to the sample editor? Ive tried the way that seems obvious,
> what am i doin wrong. If ive got, say, my break shown as a wav and then i
> 'import' a sample (my stab) it just replaces the other and my instument
list
> stays as 0 -none or 1 - stab
> rather than 0, 1 or 2. if you know what i mean.
> what ma doin wrong
>
> cheers agin
> dave t
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim <tim.parkinson@ccr.ntu.ac.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:59 PM
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Help dave make music!!
>
>
> > > From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> > > right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
> > > im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot
> >
> >
> > Me too!  I've just recently started using modplug tracker to play around
> > with.  I'm finding it fairly easy to use for basic stuff, I reckon more
> > advanced stuff will only come with time.
> >
> > > more user friendly than another i tried, but i just dont
> > > understand how to make 2 sounds play at once, a breakbeat and
> > > a stab thingy, im sure its simple but im sooo thick, once i
> >
> > Have you got both samples loaded in the sample editor (I'll assume you
> > have).  In the pattern window go into the first channel.  Above the
> channels
> > there should be an instrument selector, set this to your first sample
> (your
> > drum break).
> > In the channel press A (which is C5 I think) you should hear your drums
> > start.
> > Set the selector for instruments to your second sample (stab), click at
> the
> > top of your second channel (make sure you click the most left bit) hit A
> > again.  Now press F6, which will start the song off.  You should hear
the
> > stab and drums play together.
> >
> >
> > > know how i can mess around with this thing all day, some elp
> > > me im a ree tard!?
> > > elp please??
> >
> >
> > Hope to hear some toons from you soon then :)
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
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> From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> 
> not me i was ill ;-(
> 
[Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K (see below).


> dunno (see above)
> 
[Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was a wicked vibe.
there was a great variety of old skool throughout the night too. 


> it was the last one ever ;-(
> 
[Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April Fools! see EvilC's
post from Sunday. 

Bart

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> 1. hardcore 92/93 -features female sample "can't
> wait tonight , " " ,  can't 
> wait toniiiiighht" -i think that what's she's saying

Liam - This is 'Wait 4 the Bass' by DJ Scoobie on
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www.happycore.co.uk	-	Want rave scene rebuiling samples?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 16:23
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (oldschool) daves Problem solved
>
>
> ooooohhhhhhh iiiiiiii seeeeeeeee!!!!
>
> i can do it now!!
> cheers agin Tim
>
> im off to rebuild the harcore scene
>
> cheeers
> dave t
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Help dave make music!!
>
>
> > Tim, thanks so much for the reply, i still cant do it as i dont know how
> to
> > load 2 samples to the sample editor? Ive tried the way that
> seems obvious,
> > what am i doin wrong. If ive got, say, my break shown as a wav
> and then i
> > 'import' a sample (my stab) it just replaces the other and my instument
> list
> > stays as 0 -none or 1 - stab
> > rather than 0, 1 or 2. if you know what i mean.
> > what ma doin wrong
> >
> > cheers agin
> > dave t
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Tim <tim.parkinson@ccr.ntu.ac.uk>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 2:59 PM
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Help dave make music!!
> >
> >
> > > > From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> > > > right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
> > > > im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot
> > >
> > >
> > > Me too!  I've just recently started using modplug tracker to
> play around
> > > with.  I'm finding it fairly easy to use for basic stuff, I
> reckon more
> > > advanced stuff will only come with time.
> > >
> > > > more user friendly than another i tried, but i just dont
> > > > understand how to make 2 sounds play at once, a breakbeat and
> > > > a stab thingy, im sure its simple but im sooo thick, once i
> > >
> > > Have you got both samples loaded in the sample editor (I'll assume you
> > > have).  In the pattern window go into the first channel.  Above the
> > channels
> > > there should be an instrument selector, set this to your first sample
> > (your
> > > drum break).
> > > In the channel press A (which is C5 I think) you should hear
> your drums
> > > start.
> > > Set the selector for instruments to your second sample
> (stab), click at
> > the
> > > top of your second channel (make sure you click the most left
> bit) hit A
> > > again.  Now press F6, which will start the song off.  You should hear
> the
> > > stab and drums play together.
> > >
> > >
> > > > know how i can mess around with this thing all day, some elp
> > > > me im a ree tard!?
> > > > elp please??
> > >
> > >
> > > Hope to hear some toons from you soon then :)
> > >
> > > Tim.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

	You definitely know the score, Crossfire...	Especially impressive coming
from a 14 year old, and I don't mean to be patronizing - that's a
compliment. (Not that I needed you to gimme 2 pence! *joke*)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ian Preston [mailto:crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk]
> Sent: 03 April 2000 19:51
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
> still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 89-90,
> they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
> need the fuckers now.
>
> All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if hardcore
> dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old scene.
> All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy its
> unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats
> what makes me
> hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a
> friday night,
> its just fucking class).
>
> Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of wild
> elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> thats just my 2p.
>
> Later,
> Ian
>
> At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> >I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> >Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise
> the event the
> >numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and only
> >needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking
> night. Even with
> >names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not attended.
> >
> >I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
> hardcore and
> >so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent
> alot of time
> >and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> >Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed
> but I now
> >wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old
> skool or just
> >the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite so
> >sure.
> >
> >How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
> ravers who
> >maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding
> too grandady
> >I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who
> are bang up
> >for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a
> while back!).
> >Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to various
> >reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes.
> Which is why
> >I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and
> listening to people
> >who adore the same music as me.
> >
> >So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> >When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the
> hardcore, is it the
> >same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> >garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> >
> >
> >andrew
> >
> >
> >>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> >>
> >>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94
> to make an
> >>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool on
> >>vinyl
> >>for defs
> >>
> >>dave t
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> >>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> >>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> >>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >>
> >>
> >> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> >>commitments
> >>in
> >> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene
> is probably
> >>the
> >> > most important in this country.
> >> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
> credes and
> >> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become
> stronger by the
> >>vibe
> >> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore
> ever become
> >>like
> >> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> >>moment.
> >>I
> >> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist
> way, but
> >>only
> >> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we
> are force fed
> >> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around
> with, watered
> >>down
> >> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable.
> With everyone
> >> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated
> ideals then the
> >> > strongest will survive.
> >> >
> >> > Keep the faith
> >> >
> >> > andy
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> >> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> >> > To: Oldskool List
> >> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >> > Importance: High
> >> >
> >> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> >> >
> >> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> >>contribute
> >> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To
> hit 3 birds
> >>with
> >> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore mailing
> >>lists,
> >> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> >> >
> >> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> >>ravers,
> >> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I
> have sought
> >>out
> >> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
> intentions, and
> >>that
> >> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no
> matter how
> >>long
> >> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just
> recruiting, keeping a
> >>tab
> >> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> >>supporting
> >> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they have
> >>'that
> >> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're
> not in the
> >>UK!
> >> > Please read on, regardless...
> >> >
> >> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you
> about that -
> >> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse
> than it's been
> >> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
> music was
> >>much
> >> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a personal
> >> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more
> quality tracks
> >>being
> >> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> >>diversity
> >> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. THEREFORE,
> >>there
> >> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to strength
> >>again,
> >> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can
> learn from all
> >>of
> >> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the main
> >> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can
> assure you that
> >> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music
> that a lot
> >>of
> >>us
> >> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should
> be time to
> >>leave
> >> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> >> >
> >> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in power
> >> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and know
> >>what
> >> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can
> and will do
> >>all
> >> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an enormous
> >>amount
> >> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a
> matter of time
> >> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
> because the
> >>old
> >> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and the
> >>scene
> >> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene
> with all
> >>the
> >> > support we've got.
> >> >
> >> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> >>mainstream
> >> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true* underground
> >>scene
> >> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> >>unnecessary.
> >> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will
> want a piece
> >>of
> >> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right
> pig's ear of
> >>the
> >> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. You
> >>know
> >> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the wrong
> >>hands...
> >> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> >> >
> >> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into what
> >> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward for
> >>being
> >>in
> >> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting to
> >>become
> >> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy
> Kru website
> >> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> >>detailed
> >> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd
> also like to
> >> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> >>production.
> >> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your
> PC \ Mac \
> >> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \
> Girlfriend and send
> >>it
> >> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> problems
> >>with
> >> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the
> lists. There's
> >>even
> >>a
> >> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I
> would strongly
> >> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe,
> >>send
> >>a
> >> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I
> think - Lee'll
> >>kill
> >> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee Richardson
> >> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell
> you what to
> >>do.
> >> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > All the best,
> >> >
> >> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> >> >
> >> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> >> >
> >> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> >> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm
> getting that
> >> > sorted!
> >> >
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I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.

Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(

Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
Ant

--- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > 
> > not me i was ill ;-(
> > 
> [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> (see below).
> 
> 
> > dunno (see above)
> > 
> [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> a wicked vibe.
> there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> the night too. 
> 
> 
> > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > 
> [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> Fools! see EvilC's
> post from Sunday. 
> 
> Bart
> 
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arse

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I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.

Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(

Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
Ant

--- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > 
> > not me i was ill ;-(
> > 
> [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> (see below).
> 
> 
> > dunno (see above)
> > 
> [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> a wicked vibe.
> there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> the night too. 
> 
> 
> > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > 
> [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> Fools! see EvilC's
> post from Sunday. 
> 
> Bart
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posters all over london. yes it's back on friday the 28th or 29th of =
April...

THE DOWNSIDE

i's at bagley's. Does anyone have the flyer or any details on what the =
music policy is..

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> I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> years of dances

i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the palace.
So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper rave,
not just a club night....wicked stuff.

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> arse
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
>
> Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
>
> Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> Ant
>
> --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > >
> > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > >
> > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > (see below).
> >
> >
> > > dunno (see above)
> > >
> > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > a wicked vibe.
> > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > the night too.
> >
> >
> > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > >
> > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > Fools! see EvilC's
> > post from Sunday.
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Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint that
big!!!

Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!

Anyone up for it????

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> I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> years of dances

i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the palace.
So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper rave,
not just a club night....wicked stuff.

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> arse
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
>
> Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
>
> Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> Ant
>
> --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > >
> > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > >
> > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > (see below).
> >
> >
> > > dunno (see above)
> > >
> > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > a wicked vibe.
> > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > the night too.
> >
> >
> > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > >
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> > Fools! see EvilC's
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> From: Ant Hartman [SMTP:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> 
> I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> years of dances! 
> 
[Bart]  it was actually the first time i've been there (in like 7-8
years of raving)so i thought it was great - if a little too hectic on
the dancefloor. the layout with the stage and laser gave a great old
skool vibe though, i thought


> Tunage
> got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> 
[Bart]  my mate and i went for a little sit down then but it was worth
hanging around cos Ellis Dee came back with Obsession and Dub War. oh
yus! :)


> Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> 
[Bart]  ack! that really sucks. i hope you got it cancelled okay.


> Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> 
[Bart]  that's Bart btw, unless you're telling me off. :)

[Bart]  it was quite a last minute thing, choosing to go to Moondance. i
was all set to go to Labs like i do most weeks when i realised that
they'd probably be no-one there (cos they'd all be at Moondance) and i
might as well give MD a go. we arrived early and paid twenty squid to
get in but i think it was worth it - especially to have so much space to
dance right at the start. :)

[Bart]  i'm sure i'll catch up with some of you guys soon. Slammin Vinyl
this week, prolly Labs the week after and then there's Easter weekend -
Raindance followed by Altern-8 live in Leicester!!! ooooohmigawd. :) :)

Bart

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Subject: (oldschool) Flashbacks a coming!

Dear all,

Just a quick reminder that Flashback is nearly here again.  For those who
are coming and haven't yet got a ticket DO IT NOW.  Tickets will probably be
stopped Friday morning so don't miss out.  The line-up is as follows;

Arena 1 (89-95 old skool hardcore / drum & bass)
The Rat Pack
Doc Scott
DJ SY
Mistress Mo
DJ SS
Shock C
Pilgrim
Lenni
Robbie Dee

Room 2 (pro-session present a lesson in drum & bass)
DJ Rap
Escape
Ratty (last minute booking)
Shaolin
Addict
Pace

Room 3 (Birmingham's new flava TRANCE and hard house)
Mark EG
M Zone
Nick Rafferty
Chris Turner
Neil Cressey (last minute booking)
Kevin T Raynor (last minute booking)

It is at the Que Club as always and tickets are £14.50.  Please reply for
any further info.  May the old skool be with you!!


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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance

IT WASN'T THE LAST ONE EVER THEY R PLAYING BAGLEYS IN JUNE.

> -----Original Message-----
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> not me i was ill ;-(
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> dunno (see above)
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> it was the last one ever ;-(
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Subject: (oldschool) Brilliant Hardcore News!

I had a call from DNA earlier, and have the following news to pass on.
With the everlasting popularity of 1995/96 Happy Hardcore, a number
of producers & DJ's have now decided to produce in this style. Hixxy
being a major contributor. He has done a remix of Cloudy Daze, which
apparently is totally mind blowing. Remember that '96 remix of panic
attack he made, but never released ? Well - he has remixed that remix,
and apparently it's banging! DNA is also very busy in the studios and
has already made some real quality tunes with Ham with a serious Old
Skool flavaaa. With all these future productions, and the quality
output from other spectrums of the scene, i.e. energy (freeform) and
Scott Brown (Bouncy Hardcore), the new next generation releases
featuring
on the forthcoming album, the re-birth of UK DANCE as an Innovative
hardcore label. WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO.

YEAR 2000 - YEAR OF HARDCORE EXPLOSION!!

All we need to do is spread the word and make those that left
due to girlcore - come back to something exciting :)


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Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)

Sadly that is now actually a fair point he's made...

One of the things I always used to love about going out ravin was steppin on 
the dance floor and naking yourself look like a complete twat doin some some 
really shite dance moves and not giving a shit cause nobody cared...

The whole vibe of the thing meant you didn't feel you had to dance in a 
certain way, cause at the end of the day it didn't matter. It still doesn't 
matter how yer dance to it, but I can see why people are starting to worry 
if they are doing it correctly, which at the end of the day is a shame...

>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:18:27 +0100
>
>it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young 
>people
>get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.
>Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im not
>too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all 
>night
>long)
>i just think its a fair point.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: blap <blap@home.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
> > Sup Krew,
> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
>O.D.'s,
> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
>underground
> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look under
> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad. 
>No
> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up 
>and
> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> >
> >                                       Yours
> >                                   Chad Dee
> > DJ Tripd ON E
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and i'm
> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in 
>89-90,
> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly dont
> > >need the fuckers now.
> > >
> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
>hardcore
> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
>scene.
> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy 
>its
> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what 
>makes
>me
> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
>night,
> > >its just fucking class).
> > >
> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
>wild
> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> > >thats just my 2p.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
>attended.
> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the 
>event
> > the
> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and 
>only
> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. Even
> > with
> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
>attended.
> > >>
> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool 
>hardcore
> > and
> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot 
>of
> > time
> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've attended
> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but I
>now
> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
>just
> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite 
>so
> > >>sure.
> > >>
> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of 
>ravers
> > who
> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
>grandady
> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are 
>bang
> > up
> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
>back!).
> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to 
>various
> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which 
>is
> > why
> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > people
> > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > >>
> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is 
>it
> > the
> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to 
>make
>an
> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool 
>on
> > >>>vinyl
> > >>>for defs
> > >>>
> > >>>dave t
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >>>commitments
> > >>>in
> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > probably
> > >>>the
> > >>> > most important in this country.
> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all credes
>and
> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
>the
> > >>>vibe
> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
>become
> > >>>like
> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at the
> > >>>moment.
> > >>>I
> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
>but
> > >>>only
> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are 
>force
> > fed
> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
>watered
> > >>>down
> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
>everyone
> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals 
>then
> > the
> > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Keep the faith
> > >>> >
> > >>> > andy
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>> > Importance: High
> > >>> >
> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >>>contribute
> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> > birds
> > >>>with
> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
>mailing
> > >>>lists,
> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >>>ravers,
> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > sought
> > >>>out
> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar intentions,
>and
> > >>>that
> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
>how
> > >>>long
> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
>keeping
> > a
> > >>>tab
> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >>>supporting
> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they 
>have
> > >>>'that
> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
>the
> > >>>UK!
> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
>that -
> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than 
>it's
> > been
> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the music
>was
> > >>>much
> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
>personal
> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
>tracks
> > >>>being
> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >>>diversity
> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style. 
>THEREFORE,
> > >>>there
> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to 
>strength
> > >>>again,
> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn 
>from
> > all
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
>main
> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure 
>you
> > that
> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that a
>lot
> > >>>of
> > >>>us
> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be 
>time
>to
> > >>>leave
> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in 
>power
> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and 
>know
> > >>>what
> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
>will
> > do
> > >>>all
> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an 
>enormous
> > >>>amount
> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
>time
> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top, 
>because
> > the
> > >>>old
> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and 
>the
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
>all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > support we've got.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >>>mainstream
> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
>underground
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >>>unnecessary.
> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want a
> > piece
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's 
>ear
> > of
> > >>>the
> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care. 
>You
> > >>>know
> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the 
>wrong
> > >>>hands...
> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
>what
> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward 
>for
> > >>>being
> > >>>in
> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting 
>to
> > >>>become
> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
>website
> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's most
> > >>>detailed
> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also 
>like
> > to
> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >>>production.
> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
>Mac
> > \
> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend 
>and
> > send
> > >>>it
> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
>problems
> > >>>with
> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
>There's
> > >>>even
> > >>>a
> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
>strongly
> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
>Subscribe,
> > >>>send
> > >>>a
> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > Lee'll
> > >>>kill
> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee 
>Richardson
> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you what
>to
> > >>>do.
> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All the best,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >>> >
> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
>that
> > >>> > sorted!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
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Try the music-samples list for help

can't remember what the address is offhand, but it's on that awe inspiring 
speech that Hattrix wrote the other day:)

>From: "Tim" <tim.parkinson@ccr.ntu.ac.uk>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 14:59:51 +0100
>
> > From: trip [mailto:dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk]
> > right, i know im really stupid but im an absolute total beginner
> > im sitting here with my modplug traker thing open. Its a lot
>
>
>Me too!  I've just recently started using modplug tracker to play around
>with.  I'm finding it fairly easy to use for basic stuff, I reckon more
>advanced stuff will only come with time.
>
> > more user friendly than another i tried, but i just dont
> > understand how to make 2 sounds play at once, a breakbeat and
> > a stab thingy, im sure its simple but im sooo thick, once i
>
>Have you got both samples loaded in the sample editor (I'll assume you
>have).  In the pattern window go into the first channel.  Above the 
>channels
>there should be an instrument selector, set this to your first sample (your
>drum break).
>In the channel press A (which is C5 I think) you should hear your drums
>start.
>Set the selector for instruments to your second sample (stab), click at the
>top of your second channel (make sure you click the most left bit) hit A
>again.  Now press F6, which will start the song off.  You should hear the
>stab and drums play together.
>
>
> > know how i can mess around with this thing all day, some elp
> > me im a ree tard!?
> > elp please??
>
>
>Hope to hear some toons from you soon then :)
>
>Tim.
>
>
> >
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> Hixxy
> being a major contributor.

I hope he releases his DJ's Unite rmx!!!

> DNA is also very busy in the studios and
> has already made some real quality tunes with Ham with a serious Old
> Skool flavaaa.

I can say that I have heard one of these tracks and can say its a killer.
Sounds old skoolish in a way with new production.. sorta reminds me of Ham's
track Life...


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>I had a call from DNA earlier, and have the following news to pass on.
>With the everlasting popularity of 1995/96 Happy Hardcore, a number
>of producers & DJ's have now decided to produce in this style. Hixxy
>being a major contributor.

OK. This sounds good.

>He has done a remix of Cloudy Daze, which

I'm noticing the magic word "remix" here. Personally, I identify the amount
of remixes, and lack of original material as a big problem in the scene.

>apparently is totally mind blowing. Remember that '96 remix of panic
>attack he made, but never released ? Well - he has remixed that remix,

There it is again.."remix" :(

>and apparently it's banging! DNA is also very busy in the studios and
>has already made some real quality tunes with Ham with a serious Old
>Skool flavaaa.

Excellent news..can't wait to hear them.

>With all these future productions, and the quality
>output from other spectrums of the scene, i.e. energy (freeform) and
>Scott Brown (Bouncy Hardcore), the new next generation releases
>featuring
>on the forthcoming album, the re-birth of UK DANCE as an Innovative
>hardcore label. WE HAVE AN AWFUL LOT TO LOOK FORWARD TO.


It all sounds well and good to me, although the fact that 2 out of the three
examples are remixes does worry me a bit. I'm not dismissing it all though.
I'm just going to wait and see. Think of it this way..can't be much worse
than what we've got now can it?

>YEAR 2000 - YEAR OF HARDCORE EXPLOSION!!


And commercial UK Garage.

>All we need to do is spread the word and make those that left
>due to girlcore - come back to something exciting :)

Lets hope that its worth it. I'm not making any judgements until I've heard
some of this new stuff.

Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)



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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance

there's a surprise - who would stop an event that gets totally
packed out every time its on?

:-)))

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dean Cuthbert [mailto:dean.cuthbert@uk.hboc.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:30
> To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
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>
>
> IT WASN'T THE LAST ONE EVER THEY R PLAYING BAGLEYS IN JUNE.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > Sent:	04 April 2000 16:17
> > To:	oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject:	Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> > not me i was ill ;-(
> >
> > dunno (see above)
> >
> > it was the last one ever ;-(
> >
> > KuRRuPTeD
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Doron Weinstein" <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 4:04 PM
> > Subject: (oldschool) Moondance
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> >
> > >
> > > Who went Moondance?
> > >
> > > Was it any good?
> > >
> > > Where is the next one?
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance

> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!


i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave venue
ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or loud
speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.

                       -------------------LEX-------------------
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> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint that
> big!!!
>
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
>
> Anyone up for it????
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
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>
>
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
>
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 04 April 2000 16:51
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>
>
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > Fools! see EvilC's
> > > post from Sunday.
> > >
> > > Bart
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Subject: (oldschool) Playing Out in Amsterdam

Hi all,

I assume your trip to Amserdam is still on the weekend of 28/29/30 April.

I have mentioned this a while, I arranged that two of you can play oldskool
in a little nice cafe in Amsterdam (centre, 5 minutes from the
train-station)...... It will be the sunday-evening, two sets of 45 mins....

I need a confirmation of those two names, preferably the two best names,
that's up to you guys since you all know each other quite well by now......

Don't expect too much of it (it's for free, both deejaying as the entrance),
I played oldskool there myself last Sunday and it was not that bussy.....But
since you are coming over in the weekend of a dutch holiday it will be
bussier......

Let me know ASAP,

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Omg..what a wikkid tune.....

Anyone have a spare copy for sale? =3D)

Peace
Willar
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Subject: (oldschool) Fw: (oldschool) tunes 4 sale or trade 




bomb the bass = beat dis ) / 5.00

labello blanco- cat no12 = white label/ 5.00

shut up and dance = rum and black = cat no - suad17 / 5.00

alpha wave e.p = white label / 5.00

sudden def = let it hit em( remix ) = cat no - reinforced 19r / 7.50

force crew= the beginning = white label / 5.00

dj scoobie = king basshead = strictly hardcore no 5 / 5.00

amnesia= mind body & soul= creative rhythm no 1 ( promo ) / 7.50

acen = close your eyes (optikconfusion mix)= production house 34 r ( john
lennon sample ) offers ?

d, prophet= hypnotized= white label / 5.00

edge of darkness= come together= adr recordings / 7.50

danny breaks= droppin science 3 / 7.50

high rollers 1 = white label / 5.00

a homeboy, a hippie & a funkie dredd= turbulence - rising high recordings /
7.50

krome & time- ganja man ( dj hype remix ) - tearin vinyl / 7.50

concept 2 - life line- liftin spirits / 7.50

dj ron - mr fix it - london somet'ing records no 2 / 7.50

ganja vol 3 ( dj hype)= bad bwoy dj / you must think first= ganja records /
7.50

dj joker - the creation - outcry recordings / 5,00

sappo- die hard - intalex productions /  5.00

dj monk & wynee -the sweetest thing - x.l.p recordings / 5.00

just 4 u - 4 track e.p / higher/ force and evolution/ austin reynolds / 5.00

seduction & dougal- its not over - impact records no 28/ 5.00

plus i have a piece of vinyl with the house crew on it euphoria/ baptised by
dub / red alert and mike slammer -ruff / 7.50

f project  - the junglist vol 2 - white 22 / 5.00

f project - wardance vol 2 - white 20 / 5.00

f project - the o ( dream of heaven ) - white 12 / 5.00

darren j & micky finn - give the poor man a break - 5.00

techno confusion - old skool breakbeat import from the usa 1992 / 5.00

manix - head in the clouds ( remix ) - reinforce 12 r / 7.50

formation rec 10 inch - rolling with the punches - f/mation 45/ 7.50

dj reckless - piano breakbeat tune - white label - djr 1/ 5.00

 oaysis - open secrets - movin shadow 39 / 7.50

defender - feel it - gyroscope recordings - gyro 3/ 7.50

bass intereal - immortal - kickin underground sound - kus 11 / 5.00

darren h & the punisher- gonna be alright- headless recordings no 2 / 5.00

underwolves - the crossing ( justice remix ) - creative wax / 5.00

adam f - whiplash/eclipse- lucky spin - lsr 15/ 7.50

atlas - second heaven - dee jay recordings - dj 21/ 7.50

sophisticated bad boyz - feel the magic - suburban bass/ 7.50

droppin science vol 2 / 7.50

swift + zinc - blind faith - brain progression - saz 08/ 7.50









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Heheh, same here I can't dance to save me life but it dosen't stop me having
it a good go at it ;)

Paul.

-----Original Message-----
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To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
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>Surely all you have to do is bounce around, I've never been able to dance
>and in fact probably have 3 left feet. So fucking what, just get on down
and
>partay...andy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
>Sent: 03 April 2000 23:12
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
>people
>> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
>
>that's where the jack hills come in usefull.
>
>
>
>                       -------------------LEX-------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: 03 April 2000 22:18
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>
>
>> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
>people
>> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
>> Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im
not
>> too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
>night
>> long)
>> i just think its a fair point.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: blap <blap@home.com>
>> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
>> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>
>>
>> > Sup Krew,
>> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
>> O.D.'s,
>> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
>> underground
>> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
>> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
>> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look
under
>> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
>> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
>> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
>No
>> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
>and
>> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
>> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
>> >
>> >                                       Yours
>> >                                   Chad Dee
>> > DJ Tripd ON E
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
>> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
>> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> >
>> >
>> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and
i'm
>> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
>89-90,
>> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly
dont
>> > >need the fuckers now.
>> > >
>> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
>> hardcore
>> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
>> scene.
>> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
>its
>> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
>makes
>> me
>> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
>> night,
>> > >its just fucking class).
>> > >
>> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
>> wild
>> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
>> > >thats just my 2p.
>> > >
>> > >Later,
>> > >Ian
>> > >
>> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
>> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
>> attended.
>> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
>event
>> > the
>> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
>only
>> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
Even
>> > with
>> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
>> attended.
>> > >>
>> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
>hardcore
>> > and
>> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
>of
>> > time
>> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've
attended
>> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but
I
>> now
>> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
>> just
>> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
>so
>> > >>sure.
>> > >>
>> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
>ravers
>> > who
>> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
>> grandady
>> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
>bang
>> > up
>> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
>> back!).
>> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
>various
>> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
>is
>> > why
>> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
>> > people
>> > >>who adore the same music as me.
>> > >>
>> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
>> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
>it
>> > the
>> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
>> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>andrew
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
>> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>> > >>>
>> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
>make
>> an
>> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
>on
>> > >>>vinyl
>> > >>>for defs
>> > >>>
>> > >>>dave t
>> > >>>
>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
>> > >>>commitments
>> > >>>in
>> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
>> > probably
>> > >>>the
>> > >>> > most important in this country.
>> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
credes
>> and
>> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
>> the
>> > >>>vibe
>> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
>> become
>> > >>>like
>> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
the
>> > >>>moment.
>> > >>>I
>> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
>> but
>> > >>>only
>> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
>force
>> > fed
>> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
>> watered
>> > >>>down
>> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
>> everyone
>> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
>then
>> > the
>> > >>> > strongest will survive.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Keep the faith
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > andy
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
>> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
>> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
>> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > >>> > Importance: High
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
>> > >>>contribute
>> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
>> > birds
>> > >>>with
>> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
>> mailing
>> > >>>lists,
>> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
>> > >>>ravers,
>> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
>> > sought
>> > >>>out
>> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
intentions,
>> and
>> > >>>that
>> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
>> how
>> > >>>long
>> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
>> keeping
>> > a
>> > >>>tab
>> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>> > >>>supporting
>> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
>have
>> > >>>'that
>> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
>> the
>> > >>>UK!
>> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
>> that -
>> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
>it's
>> > been
>> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
music
>> was
>> > >>>much
>> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
>> personal
>> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
>> tracks
>> > >>>being
>> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
>> > >>>diversity
>> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
>THEREFORE,
>> > >>>there
>> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
>strength
>> > >>>again,
>> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
>from
>> > all
>> > >>>of
>> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
>> main
>> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
>you
>> > that
>> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that
a
>> lot
>> > >>>of
>> > >>>us
>> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
>time
>> to
>> > >>>leave
>> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
>power
>> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
>know
>> > >>>what
>> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
>> will
>> > do
>> > >>>all
>> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
>enormous
>> > >>>amount
>> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
>> time
>> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
>because
>> > the
>> > >>>old
>> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
>the
>> > >>>scene
>> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
>> all
>> > >>>the
>> > >>> > support we've got.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
>> > >>>mainstream
>> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
>> underground
>> > >>>scene
>> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>> > >>>unnecessary.
>> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want
a
>> > piece
>> > >>>of
>> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
>ear
>> > of
>> > >>>the
>> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
>You
>> > >>>know
>> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
>wrong
>> > >>>hands...
>> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
>> what
>> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
>for
>> > >>>being
>> > >>>in
>> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
>to
>> > >>>become
>> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
>> website
>> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
most
>> > >>>detailed
>> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
>like
>> > to
>> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
>> > >>>production.
>> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
>> Mac
>> > \
>> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
>and
>> > send
>> > >>>it
>> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
>> problems
>> > >>>with
>> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
>> There's
>> > >>>even
>> > >>>a
>> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
>> strongly
>> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
>> Subscribe,
>> > >>>send
>> > >>>a
>> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
>> > Lee'll
>> > >>>kill
>> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
>Richardson
>> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you
what
>> to
>> > >>>do.
>> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > All the best,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
>> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
>> that
>> > >>> > sorted!
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Flashbacks a coming!

Where's it being held and when is it? 'cos that is one pukka line up.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Jimmy <oldskooldaze@saqnet.co.uk>
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
Date: 04 April 2000 17:10
Subject: (oldschool) Flashbacks a coming!


>Dear all,
>
>Just a quick reminder that Flashback is nearly here again.  For those who
>are coming and haven't yet got a ticket DO IT NOW.  Tickets will probably
be
>stopped Friday morning so don't miss out.  The line-up is as follows;
>
>Arena 1 (89-95 old skool hardcore / drum & bass)
>The Rat Pack
>Doc Scott
>DJ SY
>Mistress Mo
>DJ SS
>Shock C
>Pilgrim
>Lenni
>Robbie Dee
>
>Room 2 (pro-session present a lesson in drum & bass)
>DJ Rap
>Escape
>Ratty (last minute booking)
>Shaolin
>Addict
>Pace
>
>Room 3 (Birmingham's new flava TRANCE and hard house)
>Mark EG
>M Zone
>Nick Rafferty
>Chris Turner
>Neil Cressey (last minute booking)
>Kevin T Raynor (last minute booking)
>
>It is at the Que Club as always and tickets are £14.50.  Please reply for
>any further info.  May the old skool be with you!!
>
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance

i've heard the same

>From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
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>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 18:57:59 +0100
>
> > Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
>
>
>i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave 
>venue
>ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or loud
>speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: 04 April 2000 17:00
>Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
>
>
> > Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint 
>that
> > big!!!
> >
> > Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
> >
> > Anyone up for it????
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > > years of dances
> >
> > i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
>palace.
> > So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
>rave,
> > not just a club night....wicked stuff.
> >
> >                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:51
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > > arse
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> > >
> > >
> > > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> > >
> > > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> > >
> > > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > > Ant
> > >
> > > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > > >
> > > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > > >
> > > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > > (see below).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > dunno (see above)
> > > > >
> > > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > > a wicked vibe.
> > > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > > the night too.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > > >
> > > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > > Fools! see EvilC's
> > > > post from Sunday.
> > > >
> > > > Bart
> > > >
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Hi peeps,

I've got the following tunes up for grabs if anyone is
interested. I'm open to offers on any of these,
otherwise I'm after any of the tunes listed further
below in my wants list and would consider a swap.

Mail me PRIVATELY please as I'm only on the digest
list at the mo! Ta.

Matt B


For Sale
--------

L Double - "Low Key Movements" - Reinforced 61

DJ Lemon D - "Something I Feel / Parazone (remix)" -
Planet Earth 05

DJ Vibes - "Obsession (Music So Wonderful)" - Asylum
01

Tango & Ratty - "Tales From The Darkside" - TR01

DJ Gwange - "Motionless / Adrenalin" - Legend 07

Omni Trio - "Feel Good remix" - Moving Shadow 32R2

Hired Gun - "Dem Gun Mad" - JFK 01

DJ SS - "Bronze" - Formation Colour Series



My Wants List
-------------

Acen - "Close Your Eyes" (Optikonfusion!) - Production
House 34R
Bass Influence - "Bass Riddim" - Impact 19
C Biz (Bizzy B) - "Crowd Say Rewind remix" - Big City
Records
Chaos & Julia Set Part 2 - "Fear The Future" - Recoil
Records
DJ Crazee M - "The Light" - HHE
DJ Vibes - "Peekin Through My Window" - Asylum 02
Hyper On Experience - "Lord of the Null Lines remix" -
Moving Shadow 30R1
Jack 'n' Phil - "We Are Unity" (not remix 28R) -
Basement 28
Jim Polo & Neil Vass - "The Interelate EP" - Dark
Horse 02
Jonny L - "Hurt You So" - YoYo / Touchwood
Lewi Cifer - "Heat" - white label
LTJ Bukem - "Logical Progression" - VMR
Luna-C Project - "Edge of Madness" - Kniteforce
Records 01
Manix - "Manic Minds EP - Feel Good" - Reinforced 09
Mystery Man - "DJ Business" - Fokus Records
Naughty Naughty - "Chime remix" - Naughty Naughty 06
Shades of Rhythm - "Sweet Sensation" (Ray Keith remix)
- S/O/R
Skanna - "Until The Night Is The Morning" - Skanna
Spinback & Windmill - "Devine Inspiration" - Legend 02
Smooth But Hazzardous - "Smooth But Hazzardous" -
Basement 07
Static Substance - "Mind Games" - Impact 20
Studio 2 - "Dirty Games remix" - white label
Top Buzz - "Living In A Dream" - Basement 26
Wax Doctor & Jack Smooth - "A New Direction '93" -
Basement 27
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Tried the link but it says it can't find your site.

Paul.

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>Bassheads album reviewed, plus new Records of Month from Asylum and 
>Progression (Bungalisitc EP!!!!!!!!!!), plus loads more.....
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>Check it! :-)
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Lucan..

I'll take the following off your hands...

> krome & time- ganja man ( dj hype remix ) - tearin vinyl / 7.50
> manix - head in the clouds ( remix ) - reinforce 12 r / 7.50
>  oaysis - open secrets - movin shadow 39 / 7.50

Let me know how much you want for them including p&p in the UK, who to
make a cheque payable to, and where to send it...

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replay records normally have a copy of this for sale 
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Omg..what a wikkid tune.....

Anyone have a spare copy for sale? =)

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Interesting comments. It kinda goes in cycles doesn't it? I
remmeber Garage used to be the 'express yourself any wway
you want' style, while Jungle you had to dance in a certain
way. The dance move fashions go with the music fashions.

I think you can have a great time dancing like someone who's
having an epileptic fit (no disrespect to epileptics) OR
dancing strictly according to the approriate style that
year. 

--- Hrood Bwai <hroodbwai@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sadly that is now actually a fair point he's made...
> 
> One of the things I always used to love about going out
> ravin was steppin on 
> the dance floor and naking yourself look like a complete
> twat doin some some 
> really shite dance moves and not giving a shit cause
> nobody cared...
> 
> The whole vibe of the thing meant you didn't feel you had
> to dance in a 
> certain way, cause at the end of the day it didn't matter.
> It still doesn't 
> matter how yer dance to it, but I can see why people are
> starting to worry 
> if they are doing it correctly, which at the end of the
> day is a shame...
> 
> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:18:27 +0100
> >
> >it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why
> not many young 
> >people
> >get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know
> how to dance to it.
> >Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done
> for years,  im not
> >too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can
> 'skank' to dnb all 
> >night
> >long)
> >i just think its a fair point.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: blap <blap@home.com>
> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > > Sup Krew,
> > >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such
> as shootings,
> >O.D.'s,
> > > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should
> *tranfer an
> >underground
> > > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at
> the door in our
> > > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp
> obects, anything that
> > > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles,
> ect ...  Look under
> > > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs,
> ankles, back, arms, in
> > > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks
> like they are
> > > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always
> remember Drugs are Bad. 
> >No
> > > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a
> break to "Shut up 
> >and
> > > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing
> the music must
> > > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> > >
> > >                                       Yours
> > >                                   Chad Dee
> > > DJ Tripd ON E
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ian Preston
> <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
> (IMPORTANT)
> > >
> > >
> > > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13
> year old btw, and i'm
> > > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the
> scene back in 
> >89-90,
> > > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then,
> we certainly dont
> > > >need the fuckers now.
> > > >
> > > >All we need is people who love the music, and like
> Hatty says, if
> >hardcore
> > > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much
> better than the old
> >scene.
> > > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore,
> which is so cheesy 
> >its
> > > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff,
> cos thats what 
> >makes
> >me
> > > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at
> midnight on a friday
> >night,
> > > >its just fucking class).
> > > >
> > > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it
> would take a herd of
> >wild
> > > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my
> best shot :) Welps,
> > > >thats just my 2p.
> > > >
> > > >Later,
> > > >Ian
> > > >
> > > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was,
> sadly, under
> >attended.
> > > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to
> publicise the 
> >event
> > > the
> > > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event
> by any means and 
> >only
> > > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a
> rocking night. Even
> > > with
> > > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the
> numbers have not
> >attended.
> > > >>
> > > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the
> old skool 
> >hardcore
> > > and
> > > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no
> money and spent alot 
> >of
> > > time
> > > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all
> love. I've attended
> > > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always
> been rammed but I
> >now
> > > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for
> the old skool or
> >just
> > > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..).
> I'm now not quite 
> >so
> > > >>sure.
> > > >>
> > > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger
> generation of 
> >ravers
> > > who
> > > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without
> sounding too
> >grandady
> > > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger
> than me who are 
> >bang
> > > up
> > > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this
> list a while
> >back!).
> > > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go
> out, due to 
> >various
> > > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority
> sometimes. Which 
> >is
> > > why
> > > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list
> and listening to
> > > people
> > > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > > >>
> > > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are
> your mates into?
> > > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for
> the hardcore, is 
> >it
> > > the
> > > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most
> yer mates listen to
> > > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>andrew
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> 
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tWiSt wrote:

> Let me know how much you want for them including p&p in the UK, who to
> make a cheque payable to, and where to send it...

Woops... menna send that private likesay.

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Ant

>...altho
> there was a greater proportion of top totty! #

Have to agree with that one. That bird that looks like
Melanie from EastEnders always seems to be at Camden Palace,
flirting with some bloke then enjoying giving the same bloke
loads of abuse. About the last three times I've been
there...

> got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.

About 15 minutes before Null Lines was played, followed by
more rave. 

> Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(

NIGHTMARE. I had my mobile phone and an expensive pare of
work shoes I'd bought that evening in a big plastic bag in
the cloakroom. Didn't get nicked thank God. 

OK when's the next List Piss Up, I think I'll miss the club
bit out next time.

D

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Subject: (oldschool) A couple tunes wanted

1) Jonny L "I Let You"

Full length RA or mp3 please

2) Jocelyn Brown (I think) {title unknown}.  House tune that has the =
original vocal "Sometimes I feel like throwin my hands up in the air".

Title, RA, andor MP3 please.

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oh yeah...erm...no

You can send me the longer version if you want and I'll take it round 
someone elses. No 7mb mp3's though please!

>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 09:52:36 +0100
>
>so what about the tune i sent you?
>any ideas?
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Mike A <mike_ainley@hotmail.com>
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>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 7:59 AM
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>
>
> > Thanking you very much :) Needed to know that one for years!
> >
> > >From: tWiSt <twist@hungryghost.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >Subject: Re: (oldschool) arsewipe
> > >Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:40:13 +0200
> > >
> > >trip wrote:
> > > >
> > > > na im not after the one with the guy shouting NHS!
> > >
> > >Trip - your after the NHS mix (Absolute 2 #?).
> > >Mike A - your after the Midnight Mix (Absolute 2 #6)
> > >
> > >peace,
> > >tWiSt
> > >
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I think you can have a great time dancing like someone who's having an
epileptic fit (no disrespect to epileptics) OR dancing strictly according to
the approriate style that year.

None taken ;-) I totally agree with you though ! it usually has something to
do with the amount of jack and jill's that have been taken though !

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Possibly the best, to-the-point, no bullshit review of a club I've ever 
read.

We still had some good times in there though! I think it's that Camden, 
Raindance (laser-wise) and Flashback etc have tried to give more every time, 
where Bagleys seem determined to become a erm erm erm film studio?

>From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
>
>i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave 
>venue
>ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or loud
>speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.

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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance totty

SHE DOES EXIST!!

Fuck I'm glad someone else has noticed her. I've seen her all over the 
place, Camden mainly but also Raindance. Giving blokes massive come-ons then 
messing with their heads. Sheer trouble, but nice boots :)

>From: DJ PHTHOR <djphthor@yahoo.com>
>Have to agree with that one. That bird that looks like
>Melanie from EastEnders always seems to be at Camden Palace,
>flirting with some bloke then enjoying giving the same bloke
>loads of abuse. About the last three times I've been
>there...
>
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
>
>About 15 minutes before Null Lines was played, followed by
>more rave.
>
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
>
>NIGHTMARE. I had my mobile phone and an expensive pare of
>work shoes I'd bought that evening in a big plastic bag in
>the cloakroom. Didn't get nicked thank God.
>
>OK when's the next List Piss Up, I think I'll miss the club
>bit out next time.
>
>D
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>I think you can have a great time dancing like someone who's
>having an epileptic fit (no disrespect to epileptics) 

That kinda sums up my dancing, arms 'n' legs everywhere :)

Paul.

>--- Hrood Bwai <hroodbwai@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sadly that is now actually a fair point he's made...
>> 
>> One of the things I always used to love about going out
>> ravin was steppin on 
>> the dance floor and naking yourself look like a complete
>> twat doin some some 
>> really shite dance moves and not giving a shit cause
>> nobody cared...
>> 
>> The whole vibe of the thing meant you didn't feel you had
>> to dance in a 
>> certain way, cause at the end of the day it didn't matter.
>> It still doesn't 
>> matter how yer dance to it, but I can see why people are
>> starting to worry 
>> if they are doing it correctly, which at the end of the
>> day is a shame...
>> 
>> >From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>> >Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:18:27 +0100
>> >
>> >it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why
>> not many young 
>> >people
>> >get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know
>> how to dance to it.
>> >Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done
>> for years,  im not
>> >too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can
>> 'skank' to dnb all 
>> >night
>> >long)
>> >i just think its a fair point.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: blap <blap@home.com>
>> >To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
>> >Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> >
>> >
>> > > Sup Krew,
>> > >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such
>> as shootings,
>> >O.D.'s,
>> > > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should
>> *tranfer an
>> >underground
>> > > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at
>> the door in our
>> > > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp
>> obects, anything that
>> > > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles,
>> ect ...  Look under
>> > > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs,
>> ankles, back, arms, in
>> > > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks
>> like they are
>> > > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always
>> remember Drugs are Bad. 
>> >No
>> > > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a
>> break to "Shut up 
>> >and
>> > > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing
>> the music must
>> > > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
>> > >
>> > >                                       Yours
>> > >                                   Chad Dee
>> > > DJ Tripd ON E
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Ian Preston
>> <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
>> > > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> > > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT!
>> (IMPORTANT)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13
>> year old btw, and i'm
>> > > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the
>> scene back in 
>> >89-90,
>> > > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then,
>> we certainly dont
>> > > >need the fuckers now.
>> > > >
>> > > >All we need is people who love the music, and like
>> Hatty says, if
>> >hardcore
>> > > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much
>> better than the old
>> >scene.
>> > > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore,
>> which is so cheesy 
>> >its
>> > > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff,
>> cos thats what 
>> >makes
>> >me
>> > > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at
>> midnight on a friday
>> >night,
>> > > >its just fucking class).
>> > > >
>> > > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it
>> would take a herd of
>> >wild
>> > > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my
>> best shot :) Welps,
>> > > >thats just my 2p.
>> > > >
>> > > >Later,
>> > > >Ian
>> > > >
>> > > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
>> > > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was,
>> sadly, under
>> >attended.
>> > > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to
>> publicise the 
>> >event
>> > > the
>> > > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event
>> by any means and 
>> >only
>> > > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a
>> rocking night. Even
>> > > with
>> > > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the
>> numbers have not
>> >attended.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the
>> old skool 
>> >hardcore
>> > > and
>> > > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no
>> money and spent alot 
>> >of
>> > > time
>> > > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all
>> love. I've attended
>> > > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always
>> been rammed but I
>> >now
>> > > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for
>> the old skool or
>> >just
>> > > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..).
>> I'm now not quite 
>> >so
>> > > >>sure.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger
>> generation of 
>> >ravers
>> > > who
>> > > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without
>> sounding too
>> >grandady
>> > > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger
>> than me who are 
>> >bang
>> > > up
>> > > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this
>> list a while
>> >back!).
>> > > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go
>> out, due to 
>> >various
>> > > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority
>> sometimes. Which 
>> >is
>> > > why
>> > > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list
>> and listening to
>> > > people
>> > > >>who adore the same music as me.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are
>> your mates into?
>> > > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for
>> the hardcore, is 
>> >it
>> > > the
>> > > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most
>> yer mates listen to
>> > > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>andrew
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>> > > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> 
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bought these today

atlantis EP - movin fusion - ram     .......FUKIN WIKID TUNE (the =
olskool soundin one)
and i bought
some tune called "Tell Me" cant be bothered to go and look who its buy, =
the vocal mix is some WIIIKID liquid funky dnb.
"tell me what its all abouuut... tell me what its all abbo houutttt"


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Most of my mates are into hardcore and dnb. Most people at school say 
they're into hardcore, they go round the streets on five e's and go home to 
listen to Hixxy. there are some people who are proper into hardcore, techno, 
and dnb, but we have to travel to Manchester or London to any decent nights. 
I'm inyo old skool and dnd myself, but there aren't that many oldskool 
nights near me, or they're really hard to find.

>From: "Hrood Bwai" <hroodbwai@hotmail.com>
>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:01:54 GMT
>
>Sadly that is now actually a fair point he's made...
>
>One of the things I always used to love about going out ravin was steppin 
>on
>the dance floor and naking yourself look like a complete twat doin some 
>some
>really shite dance moves and not giving a shit cause nobody cared...
>
>The whole vibe of the thing meant you didn't feel you had to dance in a
>certain way, cause at the end of the day it didn't matter. It still doesn't
>matter how yer dance to it, but I can see why people are starting to worry
>if they are doing it correctly, which at the end of the day is a shame...
>
>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 22:18:27 +0100
>>
>>it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
>>people
>>get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to it.
>>Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im not
>>too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
>>night
>>long)
>>i just think its a fair point.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: blap <blap@home.com>
>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>>Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>>
>>
>> > Sup Krew,
>> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
>>O.D.'s,
>> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
>>underground
>> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
>> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
>> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look 
>>under
>> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
>> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
>> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
>>No
>> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
>>and
>> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
>> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
>> >
>> >                                       Yours
>> >                                   Chad Dee
>> > DJ Tripd ON E
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
>> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
>> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
>> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> >
>> >
>> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and 
>>i'm
>> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
>>89-90,
>> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly 
>>dont
>> > >need the fuckers now.
>> > >
>> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
>>hardcore
>> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
>>scene.
>> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
>>its
>> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
>>makes
>>me
>> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
>>night,
>> > >its just fucking class).
>> > >
>> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
>>wild
>> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
>> > >thats just my 2p.
>> > >
>> > >Later,
>> > >Ian
>> > >
>> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
>> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
>>attended.
>> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
>>event
>> > the
>> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
>>only
>> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night. 
>>Even
>> > with
>> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
>>attended.
>> > >>
>> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
>>hardcore
>> > and
>> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
>>of
>> > time
>> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've 
>>attended
>> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but 
>>I
>>now
>> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
>>just
>> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
>>so
>> > >>sure.
>> > >>
>> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
>>ravers
>> > who
>> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
>>grandady
>> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
>>bang
>> > up
>> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
>>back!).
>> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
>>various
>> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
>>is
>> > why
>> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
>> > people
>> > >>who adore the same music as me.
>> > >>
>> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
>> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
>>it
>> > the
>> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
>> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>andrew
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
>> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
>> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
>> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
>> > >>>
>> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
>>make
>>an
>> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
>>on
>> > >>>vinyl
>> > >>>for defs
>> > >>>
>> > >>>dave t
>> > >>>
>> > >>>----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
>> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
>> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
>> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
>> > >>>commitments
>> > >>>in
>> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
>> > probably
>> > >>>the
>> > >>> > most important in this country.
>> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all 
>>credes
>>and
>> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
>>the
>> > >>>vibe
>> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
>>become
>> > >>>like
>> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at 
>>the
>> > >>>moment.
>> > >>>I
>> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
>>but
>> > >>>only
>> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
>>force
>> > fed
>> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
>>watered
>> > >>>down
>> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
>>everyone
>> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
>>then
>> > the
>> > >>> > strongest will survive.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Keep the faith
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > andy
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
>> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
>> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
>> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
>> > >>> > Importance: High
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
>> > >>>contribute
>> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
>> > birds
>> > >>>with
>> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
>>mailing
>> > >>>lists,
>> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
>> > >>>ravers,
>> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
>> > sought
>> > >>>out
>> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar 
>>intentions,
>>and
>> > >>>that
>> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
>>how
>> > >>>long
>> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
>>keeping
>> > a
>> > >>>tab
>> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
>> > >>>supporting
>> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
>>have
>> > >>>'that
>> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
>>the
>> > >>>UK!
>> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
>>that -
>> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
>>it's
>> > been
>> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the 
>>music
>>was
>> > >>>much
>> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
>>personal
>> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
>>tracks
>> > >>>being
>> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
>> > >>>diversity
>> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
>>THEREFORE,
>> > >>>there
>> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
>>strength
>> > >>>again,
>> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
>>from
>> > all
>> > >>>of
>> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
>>main
>> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
>>you
>> > that
>> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that 
>>a
>>lot
>> > >>>of
>> > >>>us
>> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
>>time
>>to
>> > >>>leave
>> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
>>power
>> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
>>know
>> > >>>what
>> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
>>will
>> > do
>> > >>>all
>> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
>>enormous
>> > >>>amount
>> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
>>time
>> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
>>because
>> > the
>> > >>>old
>> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
>>the
>> > >>>scene
>> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
>>all
>> > >>>the
>> > >>> > support we've got.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
>> > >>>mainstream
>> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
>>underground
>> > >>>scene
>> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
>> > >>>unnecessary.
>> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want 
>>a
>> > piece
>> > >>>of
>> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
>>ear
>> > of
>> > >>>the
>> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
>>You
>> > >>>know
>> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
>>wrong
>> > >>>hands...
>> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
>>what
>> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
>>for
>> > >>>being
>> > >>>in
>> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
>>to
>> > >>>become
>> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
>>website
>> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's 
>>most
>> > >>>detailed
>> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
>>like
>> > to
>> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
>> > >>>production.
>> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
>>Mac
>> > \
>> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
>>and
>> > send
>> > >>>it
>> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
>>problems
>> > >>>with
>> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
>>There's
>> > >>>even
>> > >>>a
>> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
>>strongly
>> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
>>Subscribe,
>> > >>>send
>> > >>>a
>> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
>> > Lee'll
>> > >>>kill
>> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
>>Richardson
>> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you 
>>what
>>to
>> > >>>do.
>> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > All the best,
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
>> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
>>that
>> > >>> > sorted!
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
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Subject: (oldschool) Picked up yesterday

Boogie Times Tribe-Dark Stranger (Promo-probably a repress, as it's brand
new)
Cubic 22-Night In Motion (used, but in decent condition, except for the
sleeve...3 quid) Funny thing was, I was checking out a new store, shopping
for some turntables...I was looking through the used techno section,
thinking of the stuff I was looking for...ya know, recalling names...and I
said "Cubic 22-Night In Motion" and about 3 records later, whaddya think I
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Fw: (oldschool) tunes 4 sale or trade

twist can you send me this again privatly

cheers
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> tWiSt wrote:
> 
> > Let me know how much you want for them including p&p in the UK, who to
> > make a cheque payable to, and where to send it...
> 
> Woops... menna send that private likesay.
> 
> peace,
> tWiSt
> 
> FutPrim - www.future-primitive.co.uk
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>>i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave 
>>venue ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or 
>>loud speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.

Kinda all fell apart when Slammin moved the old skool arena.  That's when I 
discovered 10 Years Of Dance and S/O/D.

three cheers for Slammin for allowing me to discover Camden Palace and spend 
all my money there instead :-)

Matt Clarke  --  ICQ# 17128733  --  Back To The Old Skool
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> About 15 minutes before Null Lines was played,
> followed by
> more rave. 

The original mix or the Foul play remix??

> OK when's the next List Piss Up, I think I'll miss
> the club
> bit out next time.

I'm not raving for the next 3 months! :(
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) A couple tunes wanted

"I know i can count on youuuuuuuuuu!"

"The Source feat. Candi Straton - You got the Love"???


>2) Jocelyn Brown (I think) {title unknown}.  House tune that has the
original >vocal "Sometimes I feel like throwin my hands up in the air".
>
>Title, RA, andor MP3 please.
>
>Thanks!


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From oldschool-return-11358-oldschool-archive=hyperreal.org@hyperreal.org Tue Apr 04 22:19:10 2000
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

cool! I just recieved a compilation cd with that song on it! It's a cool track.
Do you know of any extended mixes?

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3
>
> aCidbOy   8 )
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:52 AM
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>
> > Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool stuff!
> I
> > would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > aCidbOy wrote:
> >
> > > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> > >
> > > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was hitting
> big
> > > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
> others... I
> > > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from keyboard
> > > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as well
> as
> > > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the old
> moog
> > > tracks of that period.
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <Oxopoly@aol.com>
> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 3/31/00 4:26:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If so,
> do
> > > you
> > > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune, ever!
> > > >
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Subject: (oldschool) Selling...........Quadrophonia & Fourplay EP on CDsingle

Quadrophonia - Quadrophonia (ARS)

Fourplay EP (XL Recordings) :
DJs Unite vol1
Glide - Alright
Noise Factory - Be Free
EQ - True Devotion

Both classic releases.

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Subject: (oldschool) Soundscape question

could anyone who owns anything on this label tell me what the catalogue code 
is for it?

cheers

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>2) Jocelyn Brown (I think) {title unknown}.  House tune
that has the >original vocal "Sometimes I feel like throwin
my hands up in the air".

>Title, RA, andor MP3 please.


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> >2) Jocelyn Brown (I think) {title unknown}.  House tune that has the
>original >vocal "Sometimes I feel like throwin my hands up in the air".

Aaron -I have this on a Handbag House mix CD back home -next time i go down 
there I'll check it for you
PS- remember how you said you had that DJ Ruffneck oldskool jungle tape? I 
would love to get a dub of that- how much would that cost me including 
shipping to Toronto?

peace
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Hey Liam,

I think one of your IDs might be a tune I've got a
spare of. The one with 'come cross' samples. Sounds
like Low Key Movements on Reinforced. I can Real Audio
a bit for you if you want to check it out?

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Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:49:50 PDT
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Subject: a couple easy hardcore IDs  ; )
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Hi- here's a couple hardcore & jungle IDs I need -i
can encode em if 
need 
be, but I think they're pretty basic
1. hardcore 92/93 -features female sample "can't wait
tonight , " " ,  
can't 
wait toniiiiighht" -i think that what's she's saying

2. 93/94 dark jungle -dark as fuck noises with a ragga
sample sped up 
saying 
"COME CROSS!" -then pitched way down "come cross!"

3. 95 drum and bass -r&b sample of a girl singing
"let's get 
together...let's take it slow" repeated over steppy
94/95 jump up style 
-then vocals sing something like "wooohh yeahhhhhhhh"
and it 
breaksdown- 
...I think....

any ideas????

Liam

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> Possibly the best, to-the-point, no bullshit review of a club I've ever
> read.

cheers mike..

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> Possibly the best, to-the-point, no bullshit review of a club I've ever
> read.
>
> We still had some good times in there though! I think it's that Camden,
> Raindance (laser-wise) and Flashback etc have tried to give more every
time,
> where Bagleys seem determined to become a erm erm erm film studio?
>
> >From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
> >
> >i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave
> >venue
> >ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or loud
> >speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.
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*thinks* time to make a phat breakbeat remix with widdly acid noises and
nice dirty analogue stabs?

or p'raps not ... *L*

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From: mgtovar@worldnet.att.net on 04/04/2000 22:14

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cool! I just recieved a compilation cd with that song on it! It's a cool
track.
Do you know of any extended mixes?

Marcus

aCidbOy wrote:

> just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3
>
> aCidbOy   8 )
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:52 AM
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>
> > Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool
stuff!
> I
> > would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > aCidbOy wrote:
> >
> > > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> > >
> > > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was
hitting
> big
> > > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
> others... I
> > > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from
keyboard
> > > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as
well
> as
> > > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the
old
> moog
> > > tracks of that period.
> > >
> > > aCidbOy
> > > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> > >
> > > > In a message dated 3/31/00 4:26:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If
so,
> do
> > > you
> > > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune,
ever!
> > > >
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i have got to agree with you there. The security is fucked up.  I'm dreading
getting searched in there

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> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!


i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave venue
ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or loud
speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.

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> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint that
> big!!!
>
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
>
> Anyone up for it????
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
>
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
>
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
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>
>
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > Fools! see EvilC's
> > > post from Sunday.
> > >
> > > Bart
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

no, the version I downloaded was pretty short too... I'll look into it some
though... I'd really like a long mix of it too.  what I really want is those
17 minute version's of donna summer's "I feel love" and "love to love you"
produced by gorgio moroder (they were on the original 12 inches I think)

aCidbOy
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> cool! I just recieved a compilation cd with that song on it! It's a cool
track.
> Do you know of any extended mixes?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3
> >
> > aCidbOy   8 )
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> >
> > > Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool
stuff!
> > I
> > > would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > >
> > > > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> > > >
> > > > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was
hitting
> > big
> > > > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
> > others... I
> > > > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from keyboard
> > > > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as
well
> > as
> > > > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the old
> > moog
> > > > tracks of that period.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Oxopoly@aol.com>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> > > >
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> > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If
so,
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune,
ever!
> > > > >
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn

I was thinking just the same thing 8)

aCidbOy
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> 
> 
> *thinks* time to make a phat breakbeat remix with widdly acid noises and
> nice dirty analogue stabs?
> 
> or p'raps not ... *L*
> 
> jon diewrecked
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From: mgtovar@worldnet.att.net on 04/04/2000 22:14
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> Please respond to oldschool@hyperreal.org
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> 
> cool! I just recieved a compilation cd with that song on it! It's a cool
> track.
> Do you know of any extended mixes?
> 
> Marcus
> 
> aCidbOy wrote:
> 
> > just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3
> >
> > aCidbOy   8 )
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> >
> > > Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool
> stuff!
> > I
> > > would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > >
> > > > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> > > >
> > > > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was
> hitting
> > big
> > > > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
> > others... I
> > > > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from
> keyboard
> > > > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as
> well
> > as
> > > > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the
> old
> > moog
> > > > tracks of that period.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Oxopoly@aol.com>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/31/00 4:26:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If
> so,
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune,
> ever!
> > > > >
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can anyone get me a *CD QUALITY* copy of this tune? mp3's no good; it
cuts too much top off. if anyone's got vinyl/cd/dat i can borrow i'll
get this tune knocked up over the weekend and post an mp3 to the list or
summing ... :)

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I was thinking just the same thing 8)

aCidbOy
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>
>
> *thinks* time to make a phat breakbeat remix with widdly acid noises
and
> nice dirty analogue stabs?
>
> or p'raps not ... *L*
>
> jon diewrecked
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------- Message History
>       ----------------------------------------
>
>
> From: mgtovar@worldnet.att.net on 04/04/2000 22:14
>
> Please respond to oldschool@hyperreal.org
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>
>
> cool! I just recieved a compilation cd with that song on it! It's a
cool
> track.
> Do you know of any extended mixes?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3
> >
> > aCidbOy   8 )
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> >
> > > Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool
> stuff!
> > I
> > > would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > >
> > > > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> > > >
> > > > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was
> hitting
> > big
> > > > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
> > others... I
> > > > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from
> keyboard
> > > > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies,
as
> well
> > as
> > > > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the
> old
> > moog
> > > > tracks of that period.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Oxopoly@aol.com>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/31/00 4:26:48 PM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter?
If
> so,
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune,
> ever!
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Popcorn

IT WAS CALLED 'AUTMUN LOVE' OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THE COVER HAD A PHOTO OF
AN OPEN AIR PARTY IN IBIZA. I CANNOT REMEMBER WHICH LABEL IT WAS ON OR WHO
IT WAS BY BUT PERHAPS THIS INFO WILL HELP JOG SOMEONES MEMORY...ANDY

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no, the version I downloaded was pretty short too... I'll look into it some
though... I'd really like a long mix of it too.  what I really want is those
17 minute version's of donna summer's "I feel love" and "love to love you"
produced by gorgio moroder (they were on the original 12 inches I think)

aCidbOy
----- Original Message -----
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> cool! I just recieved a compilation cd with that song on it! It's a cool
track.
> Do you know of any extended mixes?
>
> Marcus
>
> aCidbOy wrote:
>
> > just found hot butter - popcorn on mp3
> >
> > aCidbOy   8 )
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marcus Tovar" <mgtovar@worldnet.att.net>
> > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 11:52 AM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> >
> > > Hmmm .. I wonder why that synth phase died out? That was some cool
stuff!
> > I
> > > would guess "Crockett's Theme" would be from the 70's as well?
> > >
> > > Marcus
> > >
> > > aCidbOy wrote:
> > >
> > > > yeah, I have that too, its cool
> > > >
> > > > there were a lot of moog tracks from 70 or so... the moog was
hitting
> > big
> > > > then... I believe switched on bach was released that year, among
> > others... I
> > > > have a really good book on vintage analog synthesizers from keyboard
> > > > magazine that talks about all the classic synths and companies, as
well
> > as
> > > > artists that used them.  I'll have to consult it again about the old
> > moog
> > > > tracks of that period.
> > > >
> > > > aCidbOy
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <Oxopoly@aol.com>
> > > > To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2000 1:37 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: (oldschool) Popcorn
> > > >
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> > > > > mgtovar@worldnet.att.net writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hey everyone,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Does anybody remember the track "Popcorn" from Hot Butter? If
so,
> > do
> > > > you
> > > > > >  know which compilations have a mix of that song?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > check Caustic Window's JoyrexJ4. the best remix of that tune,
ever!
> > > > >
> > > >
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Alright Lex!

Well I went to Moondance in November and it was alright. However, when I
went to Raindance in February it was the fucking bollocks and Bagleys now
does seem shit!

did you hear how they said it was the last Moondance on Friday and then
said it was an 'April Fool's'! 

Are you going to the next raindance on the 21st April?

let me know


Natasha

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> From: Lex <Lex1@btinternet.com>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 05 April 2000 08:14
> 
> > Possibly the best, to-the-point, no bullshit review of a club I've ever
> > read.
> 
> cheers mike..
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike A <mike_ainley@hotmail.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 04 April 2000 21:54
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > Possibly the best, to-the-point, no bullshit review of a club I've ever
> > read.
> >
> > We still had some good times in there though! I think it's that Camden,
> > Raindance (laser-wise) and Flashback etc have tried to give more every
> time,
> > where Bagleys seem determined to become a erm erm erm film studio?
> >
> > >From: "Lex" <Lex1@btinternet.com>
> > >
> > >i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave
> > >venue
> > >ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting or
loud
> > >speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.
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Alright Matt,

Did you go 10 yrs of Dance on Boxing Day? I did! i went to Bagley's for
Moondance in November and I thought the atmosphere was live, until I took a
trip to Raindance which was fucking wicked mate, have you been? 
10 yrs of dance was good with a suprise set from ratpack, but Demolition
Krew rocked the place with tunes from back in the day.

So what you into Matt, Oldsckool hardcore and drum and bass? Or is it the
happy hardcore vibe?
You going Slammin Vinyl on Friday? 

Well mate let me know what you been up to. the next Raindance at the Drome
is on the 21st April ( if you didn't know) so hopefully us ravers will meet
up on a vibe!

Later on


Natasha

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> From: Matthew Clarke <matt_clarke@hotmail.com>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 04 April 2000 22:46
> 
> >>i advise you to stay away from bagley's. it's become the shittest rave 
> >>venue ever. no lasers, air-conditioning, smoke machines, good lighting
or 
> >>loud speakers. And as well as that, security are wankers.
> 
> Kinda all fell apart when Slammin moved the old skool arena.  That's when
I 
> discovered 10 Years Of Dance and S/O/D.
> 
> three cheers for Slammin for allowing me to discover Camden Palace and
spend 
> all my money there instead :-)
> 
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> From: Gold, Jonathan [SMTP:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
> 
> i have got to agree with you there. The security is fucked up.  I'm
> dreading
> getting searched in there [Bagleys]    
> 
[Bart]  i've not been searched at all the last few times i've been
there[1]. i think if you arrive reasonably early for a big event they're
so keen to get the queue inside that they just wave you through. (but
don't count on it!)

[Bart]  personally i think the lack of air conditioning, as Lex
mentioned, is the biggest problem there now. it really can get
unhealthily humid in there.

[Bart]  doesn't stop me going though, obviously. :)

Barticle

[Bart]  [1]i bet i've spoken too soon. expect reports on Monday of my
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Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance

One of my mates went last Saturday and he thought if he wasn't careful they
were gonna end up fisting him in their search...andy

-----Original Message-----
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> From: Gold, Jonathan [SMTP:Jonathan.Gold@Let-It-Be-Thus.com]
>
> i have got to agree with you there. The security is fucked up.  I'm
> dreading
> getting searched in there [Bagleys]
>
[Bart]  i've not been searched at all the last few times i've been
there[1]. i think if you arrive reasonably early for a big event they're
so keen to get the queue inside that they just wave you through. (but
don't count on it!)

[Bart]  personally i think the lack of air conditioning, as Lex
mentioned, is the biggest problem there now. it really can get
unhealthily humid in there.

[Bart]  doesn't stop me going though, obviously. :)

Barticle

[Bart]  [1]i bet i've spoken too soon. expect reports on Monday of my
body cavity search! :O

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Alright Chris!

Well Im 17 and into the Oldsckool hardcore and D&B. I've only been going to
raves for about a year, but I can tell you they are fucking brilliant.
Basically I was into Garage for a long while, went to Ayia Napa and
that,but I met a whole different crowd proper on the rave scene.
I mean these garage lot don't know the meaning of a 'rave'. You go to an
Exposure and you have to wear shoes and smart dress. You go to a rave such
as Slammin Vinyl and its all trainers, tracksuits, t-shirts, hotpants and
skimppy tops, spliffs, E's and rushin vibes all around!

So Im glad to see that you are startin young, cause you're obviously gonna
be a mega raver, if you a'int started already that is! 

Just stay off the drugs, cause even though the rush is good it a'int worth
it in the end belive! You can get high just being in a placebo, looking at
those who are high and making yourself believe that you are on the same
level. 
Let the music take control.



So, I hope to hear from you later

Natasha

(PS. does Walrus happen to do with the fact that you like Oasis or the
Beatles??)

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> From: Chris Shaw <ergophobe@dial.pipex.com>
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> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> Date: 03 April 2000 17:32
> 
> >So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> 
> 
> Well I'm 15, and quite a lot of my mates like happy hardcore, drum 'n'
bass,
> oldskool or all of the above. Mainly because I've forced them to actually
> listen to some before they pass completely unfounded judgements on it.
> 
> To be honest, I think its a bit of a case of packaging. Mixmag, Ministry
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> the rest of them who occasionally declare "trance is cool" or "garage is
the
> new trance" or whatever give the rave scene a bad name. Consequently,
people
> dismiss the music without giving it a proper chance. If rave music wasn't
> slagged off in this way, and just accepted as a form of dance music like
any
> other, I don't think our scene would be in the fucked up state its in at
the
> moment.
> 
> But that's not going to happen. So its up to those who have the capacity
to
> make rational judgements, and challenge what they hear when a magazine
owned
> by a trance DJ tells you trance is cool (for example). Those who can see
> through the media hype, and enjoy the music for what it is have to do
> something for our scene. Cos you can be sure nobody else is going to.
> 
> Walrus (http://www.happyraver.co.uk/)
> 
> 
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>Did you go 10 yrs of Dance on Boxing Day? I did! i went to Bagley's for 
>Moondance in November and I thought the atmosphere was live, until I took a 
>trip to Raindance which was fucking wicked mate, have you been?

I went to both the Boxing Day 10 years and the last Raindance back in Feb.

>So what you into Matt, Oldsckool hardcore and drum and bass? Or is it the 
>happy hardcore vibe?

I won't bore everyone on here with what I'm into (a look at my site should 
give you a clue) :-)

>You going Slammin Vinyl on Friday?
Nope, I've lost all respect for Slammin Vinyl and I only put the info about 
their events on my site as I know people do look at it the site for info on 
events.

>Well mate let me know what you been up to. the next Raindance at the Drome 
>is on the 21st April ( if you didn't know) so hopefully us ravers will meet 
>up on a vibe!

I'm sure that there will be a large list attendence, even by those who are 
currently saying they won't be raving for the next 3 months (mentioning no 
names Gurn Monkey!!)


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	I went to Moondance in November and it was good. I went to Moondance On
Friday, however the bastards told everyone that it was the last one
ever...wasn't it just a friggin April fool's joke!

Anyway I reccomend you going to raindance on the 21st April 00, at the
Drome London Bridge....you a'int gonna go to a better rave mate!

natasha  

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> 
> Who went Moondance?
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> Was it any good?
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> Where is the next one?
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I'm there mate!

natasha

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> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 04 April 2000 17:00
> 
> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint
that
> big!!!
> 
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
> 
> Anyone up for it????
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
> 
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
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> 
> 
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
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Yes Mate! I agree!


natasha



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> From: Dean Cuthbert <dean.cuthbert@uk.hboc.com>
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> Date: 04 April 2000 12:58
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> Biggin Up the Old Skool MASSIVE 
> 
> 
> IS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE.
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That's true trip, you baltenly just see people jumpin around with their
horns!
I must say I love dancing to the old sckool, simply by reverting the garage
dance moves and d&b and you develop your own dance. But not everyone can
adapt...but hey that's why their e's to take you to the TOP!

natasha


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> From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> Date: 03 April 2000 22:18
> 
> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
> Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im
not
> too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
night
> long)
> i just think its a fair point.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blap <blap@home.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> 
> 
> > Sup Krew,
> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> O.D.'s,
> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> underground
> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look
under
> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
No
> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
and
> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> >
> >                                       Yours
> >                                   Chad Dee
> > DJ Tripd ON E
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and
i'm
> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
89-90,
> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly
dont
> > >need the fuckers now.
> > >
> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> hardcore
> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> scene.
> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
its
> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
makes
> me
> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
> night,
> > >its just fucking class).
> > >
> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
> wild
> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> > >thats just my 2p.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
event
> > the
> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
only
> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
Even
> > with
> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> attended.
> > >>
> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
hardcore
> > and
> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
of
> > time
> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've
attended
> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but
I
> now
> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
> just
> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
so
> > >>sure.
> > >>
> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
ravers
> > who
> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> grandady
> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
bang
> > up
> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> back!).
> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
various
> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
is
> > why
> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > people
> > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > >>
> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
it
> > the
> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
make
> an
> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
on
> > >>>vinyl
> > >>>for defs
> > >>>
> > >>>dave t
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >>>commitments
> > >>>in
> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > probably
> > >>>the
> > >>> > most important in this country.
> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
credes
> and
> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
> the
> > >>>vibe
> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> become
> > >>>like
> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
the
> > >>>moment.
> > >>>I
> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
> but
> > >>>only
> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
force
> > fed
> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> watered
> > >>>down
> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> everyone
> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
then
> > the
> > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Keep the faith
> > >>> >
> > >>> > andy
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>> > Importance: High
> > >>> >
> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >>>contribute
> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> > birds
> > >>>with
> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> mailing
> > >>>lists,
> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >>>ravers,
> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > sought
> > >>>out
> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
intentions,
> and
> > >>>that
> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
> how
> > >>>long
> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping
> > a
> > >>>tab
> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >>>supporting
> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
have
> > >>>'that
> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
> the
> > >>>UK!
> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
> that -
> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
it's
> > been
> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
music
> was
> > >>>much
> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> personal
> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> tracks
> > >>>being
> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >>>diversity
> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
THEREFORE,
> > >>>there
> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
strength
> > >>>again,
> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
from
> > all
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
> main
> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
you
> > that
> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that


a
> lot
> > >>>of
> > >>>us
> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
time
> to
> > >>>leave
> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
power
> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
know
> > >>>what
> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> will
> > do
> > >>>all
> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
enormous
> > >>>amount
> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
> time
> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
because
> > the
> > >>>old
> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
the
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
> all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > support we've got.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >>>mainstream
> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> underground
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >>>unnecessary.
> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want
a
> > piece
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
ear
> > of
> > >>>the
> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
You
> > >>>know
> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
wrong
> > >>>hands...
> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
> what
> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
for
> > >>>being
> > >>>in
> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
to
> > >>>become
> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> website
> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
most
> > >>>detailed
> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
like
> > to
> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >>>production.
> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
> Mac
> > \
> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
and
> > send
> > >>>it
> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> problems
> > >>>with
> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> There's
> > >>>even
> > >>>a
> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> strongly
> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe,
> > >>>send
> > >>>a
> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > Lee'll
> > >>>kill
> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
Richardson
> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you
what
> to
> > >>>do.
> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All the best,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >>> >
> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
> that
> > >>> > sorted!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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Wicked - we should get a crew together before hand.
Anyone up for it?

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance


I'm there mate!

natasha

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> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 04 April 2000 17:00
> 
> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint
that
> big!!!
> 
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
> 
> Anyone up for it????
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
> 
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 04 April 2000 16:51
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
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> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > Fools! see EvilC's
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Are we gonna go doron?

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Wicked - we should get a crew together before hand.
Anyone up for it?

-----Original Message-----
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I'm there mate!

natasha

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> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 04 April 2000 17:00
> 
> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint
that
> big!!!
> 
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
> 
> Anyone up for it????
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
> 
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 04 April 2000 16:51
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > Fools! see EvilC's
> > > post from Sunday.
> > >
> > > Bart
> > >
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Yes. We couldn't make Moooondance so I want to get into Slamin Vinyl.

Especially at Bagley's!!!!!

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Are we gonna go doron?

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Wicked - we should get a crew together before hand.
Anyone up for it?

-----Original Message-----
From: 94ANVIC [mailto:94ANVIC@cjmhs.rmplc.co.uk]
Sent: 05 April 2000 10:19
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I'm there mate!

natasha

----------
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 04 April 2000 17:00
> 
> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint
that
> big!!!
> 
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
> 
> Anyone up for it????
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
> 
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 04 April 2000 16:51
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > Fools! see EvilC's
> > > post from Sunday.
> > >
> > > Bart
> > >
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I can't dance to anyhting else!  

Love all the crossover foot-hopping and shit.  Me and Doron tend to go a bit
wild.

-----Original Message-----
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That's true trip, you baltenly just see people jumpin around with their
horns!
I must say I love dancing to the old sckool, simply by reverting the garage
dance moves and d&b and you develop your own dance. But not everyone can
adapt...but hey that's why their e's to take you to the TOP!

natasha


----------
> From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> Date: 03 April 2000 22:18
> 
> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
> Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im
not
> too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
night
> long)
> i just think its a fair point.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blap <blap@home.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> 
> 
> > Sup Krew,
> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> O.D.'s,
> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> underground
> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look
under
> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
No
> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
and
> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> >
> >                                       Yours
> >                                   Chad Dee
> > DJ Tripd ON E
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and
i'm
> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
89-90,
> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly
dont
> > >need the fuckers now.
> > >
> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> hardcore
> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> scene.
> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
its
> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
makes
> me
> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
> night,
> > >its just fucking class).
> > >
> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
> wild
> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> > >thats just my 2p.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
event
> > the
> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
only
> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
Even
> > with
> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> attended.
> > >>
> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
hardcore
> > and
> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
of
> > time
> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've
attended
> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but
I
> now
> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
> just
> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
so
> > >>sure.
> > >>
> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
ravers
> > who
> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> grandady
> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
bang
> > up
> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> back!).
> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
various
> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
is
> > why
> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > people
> > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > >>
> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
it
> > the
> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
make
> an
> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
on
> > >>>vinyl
> > >>>for defs
> > >>>
> > >>>dave t
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >>>commitments
> > >>>in
> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > probably
> > >>>the
> > >>> > most important in this country.
> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
credes
> and
> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
> the
> > >>>vibe
> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> become
> > >>>like
> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
the
> > >>>moment.
> > >>>I
> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
> but
> > >>>only
> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
force
> > fed
> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> watered
> > >>>down
> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> everyone
> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
then
> > the
> > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Keep the faith
> > >>> >
> > >>> > andy
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>> > Importance: High
> > >>> >
> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >>>contribute
> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> > birds
> > >>>with
> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> mailing
> > >>>lists,
> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >>>ravers,
> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > sought
> > >>>out
> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
intentions,
> and
> > >>>that
> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
> how
> > >>>long
> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping
> > a
> > >>>tab
> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >>>supporting
> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
have
> > >>>'that
> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
> the
> > >>>UK!
> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
> that -
> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
it's
> > been
> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
music
> was
> > >>>much
> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> personal
> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> tracks
> > >>>being
> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >>>diversity
> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
THEREFORE,
> > >>>there
> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
strength
> > >>>again,
> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
from
> > all
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
> main
> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
you
> > that
> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that


a
> lot
> > >>>of
> > >>>us
> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
time
> to
> > >>>leave
> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
power
> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
know
> > >>>what
> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> will
> > do
> > >>>all
> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
enormous
> > >>>amount
> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
> time
> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
because
> > the
> > >>>old
> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
the
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
> all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > support we've got.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >>>mainstream
> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> underground
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >>>unnecessary.
> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want
a
> > piece
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
ear
> > of
> > >>>the
> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
You
> > >>>know
> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
wrong
> > >>>hands...
> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
> what
> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
for
> > >>>being
> > >>>in
> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
to
> > >>>become
> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> website
> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
most
> > >>>detailed
> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
like
> > to
> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >>>production.
> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
> Mac
> > \
> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
and
> > send
> > >>>it
> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> problems
> > >>>with
> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> There's
> > >>>even
> > >>>a
> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> strongly
> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe,
> > >>>send
> > >>>a
> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > Lee'll
> > >>>kill
> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
Richardson
> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you
what
> to
> > >>>do.
> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All the best,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >>> >
> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
> that
> > >>> > sorted!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>>
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ok badboy, we're there. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Doron Weinstein [mailto:weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com]
Sent: 05 April 2000 10:42
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Yes. We couldn't make Moooondance so I want to get into Slamin Vinyl.

Especially at Bagley's!!!!!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 05 April 2000 10:39
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Are we gonna go doron?

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 05 April 2000 10:34
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Wicked - we should get a crew together before hand.
Anyone up for it?

-----Original Message-----
From: 94ANVIC [mailto:94ANVIC@cjmhs.rmplc.co.uk]
Sent: 05 April 2000 10:19
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Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance


I'm there mate!

natasha

----------
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: 'oldschool@hyperreal.org'
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> Date: 04 April 2000 17:00
> 
> Must have been completely crowded out. Camden Palace dance floor aint
that
> big!!!
> 
> Slamin Vinyl this Friday!!!!!!
> 
> Anyone up for it????
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lex [mailto:Lex1@btinternet.com]
> Sent: 04 April 2000 17:02
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances
> 
> i don't agree. i think it was the best event ive ever been to at the
palace.
> So many whistles horns, and sooooo much noise....it was like a proper
rave,
> not just a club night....wicked stuff.
> 
>                        -------------------LEX-------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Doron Weinstein <weinstein_d@puntersouthall.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: 04 April 2000 16:51
> Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> 
> 
> > arse
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ant Hartman [mailto:theravemonkey@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: 04 April 2000 16:50
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (oldschool) Moondance
> >
> >
> > I was there and it was definitely a wicked night. But
> > not quite as good as previous Sons of Dances and 10
> > years of dances! Dancefloor got a bit overcrowded and
> > the people weren't quite as friendly as usual...altho
> > there was a greater proportion of top totty! Tunage
> > got a little bit too Jungly at the end...not good for
> > atmosphere...that's why I left at 4.30.
> >
> > Only real downer of the night: CLOAKROOM BASTARDS
> > STOLE MY MOBILE PHONE!!! :(
> >
> > Why didn't you introduce yourself James???
> > Ant
> >
> > --- James Barton <James.Barton@suffolk.ac.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: KuRRuPTeD [SMTP:kurrupted@kurrupted.co.uk]
> > > >
> > > > not me i was ill ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  i went. :) and you can go to the next one, K
> > > (see below).
> > >
> > >
> > > > dunno (see above)
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  it was cool. :) pretty crowded but there was
> > > a wicked vibe.
> > > there was a great variety of old skool throughout
> > > the night too.
> > >
> > >
> > > > it was the last one ever ;-(
> > > >
> > > [Bart]  nah, that was just one of their lame April
> > > Fools! see EvilC's
> > > post from Sunday.
> > >
> > > Bart
> > >
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Come on you dance massive!!!!!!!


Let me hear it!!!!

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 05 April 2000 10:45
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I can't dance to anyhting else!  

Love all the crossover foot-hopping and shit.  Me and Doron tend to go a bit
wild.

-----Original Message-----
From: 94ANVIC [mailto:94ANVIC@cjmhs.rmplc.co.uk]
Sent: 05 April 2000 10:09
To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)


That's true trip, you baltenly just see people jumpin around with their
horns!
I must say I love dancing to the old sckool, simply by reverting the garage
dance moves and d&b and you develop your own dance. But not everyone can
adapt...but hey that's why their e's to take you to the TOP!

natasha


----------
> From: trip <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> Date: 03 April 2000 22:18
> 
> it might sound stuuupid  but i think one factor in why not many young
people
> get it to oldskool ravin easily is that they dont know how to dance to
it.
> Im nearly 19, i love the music undescribeably have done for years,  im
not
> too good at dancing to it, (dont get me wrong i can 'skank' to dnb all
night
> long)
> i just think its a fair point.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: blap <blap@home.com>
> To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2000 12:58 AM
> Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> 
> 
> > Sup Krew,
> >     The scene has been torn apart in some cases. Such as shootings,
> O.D.'s,
> > Commercializing, Police Busts, ect... Parties should *tranfer an
> underground
> > vibe to the people*. Here is a set of rulz we use at the door in our
> > parties... A pat down to check everyone for sharp obects, anything that
> > looks dangerous, drugs, food, drinks, cans, bottles, ect ...  Look
under
> > hats, pockets, sweaters, around the waste, legs, ankles, back, arms, in
> > shoes, napsacks ect... Don't let in any one who looks like they are
> > stressed, angry, or acting unapropriate. Always remember Drugs are Bad.
No
> > In's and Out's except for guests. Some times take a break to "Shut up
and
> > Dance" [not Security though]. ALSO People representing the music must
> > fantasize about the $cene and not the green. PLUR
> >
> >                                       Yours
> >                                   Chad Dee
> > DJ Tripd ON E
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ian Preston <crossfire@abduction.data-storm.co.uk>
> > To: oldschool@hyperreal.org <oldschool@hyperreal.org>
> > Date: Monday, April 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> >
> >
> > >Ok, i'll throw my 2 pence into this (i am said 13 year old btw, and
i'm
> > >still ere). Hattrixx is right, the ravers built the scene back in
89-90,
> > >they didnt need no approval from the mainstream then, we certainly
dont
> > >need the fuckers now.
> > >
> > >All we need is people who love the music, and like Hatty says, if
> hardcore
> > >dies, we can make a new scene, and make it much better than the old
> scene.
> > >All of my mates listen to Spanish Happy Hardcore, which is so cheesy
its
> > >unbelievable. I go for the oldskool 92 style stuff, cos thats what
makes
> me
> > >hyper (listening to stuff like Sweet Harmony at midnight on a friday
> night,
> > >its just fucking class).
> > >
> > >Trust me, if i got the chance to go to a rave it would take a herd of
> wild
> > >elephants to stop me, and even then i'd give it my best shot :) Welps,
> > >thats just my 2p.
> > >
> > >Later,
> > >Ian
> > >
> > >At 14:08 03-04-00 GMT, you wrote:
> > >>I attended the Old Skool Jam last Friday which was, sadly, under
> attended.
> > >>Even though the promoters made substantial effort to publicise the
event
> > the
> > >>numbers did not arrive. This was not a "big" event by any means and
only
> > >>needed a few hundred through the door to make it a rocking night.
Even
> > with
> > >>names like Slipmatt, Ellis Dee, D Cruze....the numbers have not
> attended.
> > >>
> > >>I presumed there was still a large following for the old skool
hardcore
> > and
> > >>so sympathised for the promoters who've made no money and spent alot
of
> > time
> > >>and effort into trying to promote the music we all love. I've
attended
> > >>Flashback, Back to 89 and so on and they have always been rammed but
I
> now
> > >>wonder if the majority attending these are there for the old skool or
> just
> > >>the venue / other rooms (d & b, hard house etc..). I'm now not quite
so
> > >>sure.
> > >>
> > >>How big is the demand, especially with the younger generation of
ravers
> > who
> > >>maybe missed the scene the first time round? Without sounding too
> grandady
> > >>I'm encouraged when I see people 8 - 10 yrs younger than me who are
bang
> > up
> > >>for the old skool (there was even a 13yr old on this list a while
> back!).
> > >>Sadly most of my original raving mates no longer go out, due to
various
> > >>reasons (such as Andy's)and I do feel in a minority sometimes. Which
is
> > why
> > >>I gain so much satisfaction from being on this list and listening to
> > people
> > >>who adore the same music as me.
> > >>
> > >>So come on then some of you younger ones what are your mates into?
> > >>When I was 20 odd most of my mates were well up for the hardcore, is
it
> > the
> > >>same with you or are you in a minority while most yer mates listen to
> > >>garage, r & b, trance, jungle etc...?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>andrew
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>From: "trip" <dave@triptree.freeserve.co.uk>
> > >>>Reply-To: oldschool@hyperreal.org
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>, <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>Subject: Re: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2000 14:38:01 +0100
> > >>>
> > >>>surlely there are enough people who love the sounds of 90 - 94 to
make
> an
> > >>>'oldskool' type release by a top DJ worthwhile? Id buy new oldskool
on
> > >>>vinyl
> > >>>for defs
> > >>>
> > >>>dave t
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message -----
> > >>>From: Andy Kempster <akempster@randrplc.com>
> > >>>To: <oldschool@hyperreal.org>; <hattrixx@happycore.co.uk>
> > >>>Sent: Monday, April 03, 2000 2:03 PM
> > >>>Subject: RE: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Despite the fact that I very rarely go out these days (family
> > >>>commitments
> > >>>in
> > >>> > the form of 7 week old boy) I still think the hardcore scene is
> > probably
> > >>>the
> > >>> > most important in this country.
> > >>> > In no other scene do you have the laid back approach to all
credes
> and
> > >>> > classes. This scene will not die and will only become stronger by
> the
> > >>>vibe
> > >>> > being kept away from the masses. At no time will hardcore ever
> become
> > >>>like
> > >>> > the wild'n'wacky kiddy trance scene we are having to endure at
the
> > >>>moment.
> > >>>I
> > >>> > don't mean to keep things away from the masses in an elitist way,
> but
> > >>>only
> > >>> > to prevent hardcore from becoming the prepackaged shite we are
force
> > fed
> > >>> > through the media. It does not need to be messed around with,
> watered
> > >>>down
> > >>> > or otherwise reformed to become commercially acceptable. With
> everyone
> > >>> > staying together and loving the scene and all associated ideals
then
> > the
> > >>> > strongest will survive.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Keep the faith
> > >>> >
> > >>> > andy
> > >>> >
> > >>> > -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > From: Hattrixx [mailto:hattrixx@happycore.co.uk]
> > >>> > Sent: 03 April 2000 13:03
> > >>> > To: Oldskool List
> > >>> > Subject: (oldschool) RIGHT! LET'S DO IT! (IMPORTANT)
> > >>> > Importance: High
> > >>> >
> > >>> > **PLEASE READ ALL OF THIS IF YOU VALUE THE HARDCORE SCENE**
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Hi all. I've been very busy lately, so I've not had the time to
> > >>>contribute
> > >>> > to the email lists, or send out my Dizzy Kru newsletter. To hit 3
> > birds
> > >>>with
> > >>> > one stone, I've sent this message to everyone on the Hardcore
> mailing
> > >>>lists,
> > >>> > as well as making this the latest Dizzy Kru newsletter.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Now, for all of you that don't know, the Dizzy Kru are a bunch of
> > >>>ravers,
> > >>> > Djs, producers, remixers, promoters and label owners, who I have
> > sought
> > >>>out
> > >>> > to help better the Hardcore scene. We all have similar
intentions,
> and
> > >>>that
> > >>> > is to make Hardcore better than it's ever been before - no matter
> how
> > >>>long
> > >>> > it takes. I'm not leading the crew, as such, just recruiting,
> keeping
> > a
> > >>>tab
> > >>> > on things, and encouraging these people in their pursuits. We're
> > >>>supporting
> > >>> > each other, whilst supporting the scene. If anyone thinks they
have
> > >>>'that
> > >>> > fire' inside them, please do get in touch - even if you're not in
> the
> > >>>UK!
> > >>> > Please read on, regardless...
> > >>> >
> > >>> > About the scene - I've got two words to say to all of you about
> that -
> > >>> > "don't worry"! I don't think the scene can get much worse than
it's
> > been
> > >>> > towards the end of last year. Those that were there know the
music
> was
> > >>>much
> > >>> > better around the early to mid 90's. That's not so much of a
> personal
> > >>> > opinion, as most people will agree that there were more quality
> tracks
> > >>>being
> > >>> > released, and the scene had a perfect balance of uniqueness and
> > >>>diversity
> > >>> > whilst going from strength to strength in terms of style.
THEREFORE,
> > >>>there
> > >>> > is no reason why the scene can't build up from strength to
strength
> > >>>again,
> > >>> > and reach peaks higher than ever before - because we can learn
from
> > all
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the mistakes that have been made. I know (more than most) of the
> main
> > >>> > barriers and obstacles holding the scene back, and I can assure
you
> > that
> > >>> > they're NOT at all stronger than the passion for good music that


a
> lot
> > >>>of
> > >>>us
> > >>> > possess. This is a new millennium, for God's sake it should be
time
> to
> > >>>leave
> > >>> > the past behind us and look to a newer brighter future.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Luckily, I know for a fact that there are plenty of people in
power
> > >>> > (particularly promoters and labels) that KNOW what we want, and
know
> > >>>what
> > >>> > THEY want, and care from the heart, not the wallet. They can and
> will
> > do
> > >>>all
> > >>> > that they can to pull us out of this mess. The scene has an
enormous
> > >>>amount
> > >>> > of potential, if we're to use it correctly. It's only a matter of
> time
> > >>> > before new and talented Djs have made their way to the top,
because
> > the
> > >>>old
> > >>> > ones can't go on for ever. If the worst comes to the worst, and
the
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > collapses - who cares? We can build a new and superior scene with
> all
> > >>>the
> > >>> > support we've got.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Mixmag? MTV? Radio One? Ha ha ha ha! Hardcore is ABOVE all the
> > >>>mainstream
> > >>> > magazines and radio stations, that's what having a *true*
> underground
> > >>>scene
> > >>> > is all about. Recognition from these corrupt sources are highly
> > >>>unnecessary.
> > >>> > If the music gets too popular, the big money companies will want
a
> > piece
> > >>>of
> > >>> > the cake, and employ the girl bands et all to make a right pig's
ear
> > of
> > >>>the
> > >>> > music and destroy it's rep amongst the people who actually care.
You
> > >>>know
> > >>> > what's happened in the past when Hardcore has fallen into the
wrong
> > >>>hands...
> > >>> > we need to keep it among people who are true to the scene.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > IF YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING.. DO IT! Put your life and soul into
> what
> > >>> > you're doing, but bear in mind that there's no financial reward
for
> > >>>being
> > >>>in
> > >>> > Hardcore - the music provides that! I suggest for anyone wanting
to
> > >>>become
> > >>> > the next big thing in Hardcore, you pop along to the Dizzy Kru
> website
> > >>> > (address below), because we've written some of the internet's
most
> > >>>detailed
> > >>> > and useful guides for production, DJing, MCing, etc... I'd also
like
> > to
> > >>> > *stress* that it's not as hard as most people think to get into
> > >>>production.
> > >>> > You can bung a demo tape together with free software on your PC \
> Mac
> > \
> > >>> > Amiga \ Atari \ PSX \ Frying Pan \ Donkey \ Monkey \ Girlfriend
and
> > send
> > >>>it
> > >>> > to a record company. If they like it, you're sorted. Got any
> problems
> > >>>with
> > >>> > that, there are hundreds of people who can help on the lists.
> There's
> > >>>even
> > >>>a
> > >>> > new list set up by Lee Richardson for producers, that I would
> strongly
> > >>> > recommend to anyone at any stage of the learning curve. To
> Subscribe,
> > >>>send
> > >>>a
> > >>> > blank message to: music-samples-subscribe@eGroups.com (I think -
> > Lee'll
> > >>>kill
> > >>> > me if I got that wrong!). If this doesn't work, email Lee
Richardson
> > >>> > (Lee@niit.co.uk), during the week and I'm sure he'll tell you
what
> to
> > >>>do.
> > >>> > (He doesn't tolerate Spam or attitude, by the way)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > All the best,
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Owen. (Dj H@TTRiXX...)
> > >>> >
> > >>> > hattrixx@happycore.co.uk
> > >>> >
> > >>> > www.happycore.co.uk - The Dizzy Kru's website. Check it! ;)
> > >>> > NOTE: The Dizzy Kru site is an eyesore at the mo, but I'm getting
> that
> > >>> > sorted!
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
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