From LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU Wed Aug 10 23:28:44 1994 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 23:17:51 -0400 From: BITNET list server at UMDD To: Daniel Philpott Subject: File: "NE-RAVES LOG9406" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 00:36:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 5/31/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== I'm really sorry there was no ROM last week. I had a lot of stuff going on and I had to leave town unexpectedly. I hope to see *everyone* this weekend at Rave the Bay and Mobile Grooves Posse! It was exactly one year ago this weekend that one of the better net gatherings on the east coast went down. Let's do it again. Make the trip. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ PURPOSE: The Northeast Raves Calendar comes out every Wednesday with information on raves and events as far west as Pittsburgh and as far south as Washington, DC. I will not print info on clubs unless it is either the grand opening of a new club or guest DJ / special event info for an already existing club. I reserve the right to exclude an event from the calendar for any reason. If you would specifically *not* like your event included in the calendar for some reason, send me email telling me so. The calendar is provided as-is at no cost. SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION: Directions for subscribing and unsubscribing are at the end of this file. ADDITIONS / CORRECTIONS: Send all additions and corrections to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with the DC Raves mailing list. KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 06/02/94 - RAVE THE BAY - Chesapeake Bay, MD- (410) 880 - 7031 06/03/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Ki- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/04/94 - MOBILE GROOVES POSSE 2 - Washington, DC - (202) 973 - 2109 06/04/94 - GALAXY 2000 - Brooklyn, NY - (212) 631 - 1065 06/09/94 - FEVER * (Frankie Bones, - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 1166 06/10/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Mi- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/11/94 - SYNOVIAL FLUID - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 741 - 1573 06/11/94 - SPUTNIK IV - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 06/17/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Ji- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/17/94 - MINIWARP @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 06/18/94 - DEEPER * (Peer) - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 06/18/94 - TERRA-X - Cleveland, OH - (216) 238 - 1451 06/24/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Sc- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/25/94 - NATURAL RHYTHM - Upstate Maryland - (410) 523 - 1882 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 07/02/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 07/29/94 - KHARMA @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, June 2 CHESAPEAKE BAY, MD (410) 880 - 7031 RAVE THE BAY ultraworld@aol.com RAVE THE BAY (YAY!) THURSDAY JUNE 2, 1994 FROM 11 p.m. - 7 a.m. ULTRAWORLD PRESENTS AN 8 HOUR BOAT CRUISE ON THE CHESAPEAKE BAY ON THE BAY LADY WHICH DOCKS AT THE LIGHT ST. PAVILLION AT THE BALTIMORE INNER HARBOR. WE WILL BE LEAVING FROM THE BALTIMORE INNER HARBOR, SAILING TO ANNAPOLIS AND BACK AGAIN. THERE WILL THREE DECKS OF MUSIC- ON DECK ONE- ON DECK TWO- ON DECK THREE (OPEN SKY) ON-E SCOTT HENRY L.G. WINK JASON JINX WASH M GEE DJ SUN MOSES WHO ALVARO BOBBLE and----> DIESELBOY <---- can you believe it? VISUAL STIMULATION BY DOUBLE HELIX (seth the boy wonder) THE OFFICIAL TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT MODERN MUSIC'S PARTY ON APRIL 30th. THEY WILL BE $35 AND WE WILL HAVE A BOOTH SET UP THERE WITH THE FLIERS AND TICKETS. OR CALL 410.880.7031 TO ARRANGE FOR TICKET PURCHASE. ONLY 450 TICKETS WILL BE SOLD, SO GET YOUR TICKET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR YOU MAY MISS THE BOAT! DUE TO BOAT REGULATIONS NO FOOD OR DRINKS MAY BE BROUGHT ON BOARD, BUT THERE WILL BE WATER, SODAS, JUICES AND FOOD SOLD ON BOARD AT GOOD PRICES (this is boat rules and they get all the money, sorry bout that) YOU CAN PARK AT THE GARAGE ACROSS FROM THE LIGHT ST PAVILLION AT HARBORPLACE AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. BESIDES A NIGHT WE'LL NEVER FORGET, EVERYONE WHO GOES ON THE TRIP WILL RECEIVE A FEW "RAVE THE BAY" BUMPER STICKERS. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GO, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH TO BUY YOUR TICKET ASAP. WE ARE RESERVING SPOTS FOR NO ONE! (seriously) - lonnie _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 3 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Kimball Collins, Bobble, Who _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 973 - 2109 MOBILE GROOVES POSSE 2 inhuman+@cmu.edu mobile grooves posse returns to ignite the DC underground... saturday - june - the fourth tentative DJ lineup: dieselBoy (true school uk hardcore) tiff'n'E (trance'n'dance) method one (ambient breaks) inhuman (rock bottom deep house) as always -> no walls no doors no permits no attitude no charge )))))onehundredpercentuncompromisedpositiveforcedanceenergy((((( location (and backup site if needed), night of: 202.973.2109 crash space guaranteed for out-of-town net ravers crash space arrangeable for those wishing to make the hardcore weekend of RaveTheBay--->SpiritualMovement--->MobileGrooves _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 BROOKLYN, NY (212) 631 - 1065 GALAXY 2000 (718) 714 - 5232 Brooklyn's combined forces present the goods GALAXY 2000 leaving earth: *Saturday June 4, 1994* Trancecore DJ's: Frankie Bones Jimmy Crash Heather Heart James Christian Adam X Carlos Tera Dave Trance K-5 plus guests and a separate chill-zone... *free toys and 20K of pounding noise* Respects Due: Storm, S.U.N., STOP, Spice, F.B.I., Motion Posse (LI), Mental Unity INFO PHONES: 212-631-1065, 718-714-5232 Prepare to blast off this June! *Brooklyn's True Underground Returns* And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, June 9 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 1166 FEVER * fever is turning back the hands of time by playing classic anthems that made the rave scene what it is today. fever will be dark. fever will be smokey. the music will take you back. bring your whistles, bring your candy, bring yourself... FRANKIE BONES - the brooklyn legend, storm rave's original SCOTT HENRY - fever's techno resident, as well as tracks-dc mondays FEELGOOD - reel chill & fever - baltimore SAMEER - house by way of long island, ny WASH - back this summer for the outdoor chill COOL AARON - some chill hop-hop breaks - outside _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 10 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Micro, Dave Trance, Chris Bulla, Who _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 741 - 1573 SYNOVIAL FLUID F U E L Presents (Future Underground Entertainment Limited) SYNOVIAL FLUID DJ's Scheduled: Deadly Buda (Millineum, Pittsburgh) dieselBoy(Recycled,Pittsburgh) Geoff e (Freightyard,Allentown) X-on(FUEL,Pittsburgh) G-Wiz(Baltimore) Terry Kicks(Millennium,Pittsburgh) FiNGER(Food Group,Pittsburgh) Speed Demon(DC) Live PA by 1.8.7. Features: Smart Bar by Nrgetics Fruit Bar 55,000 sq ft of Secured Space 50,000 Watt Sound System Intelligent Lighting by Apple(Baltimore) Time 10:00pm - 10am Tix $8(Advance) $10(Door) Tix available at: Modern Music(410)523-1882/ Planet X(908)249-0304 611 (215)413-9100/Groove(718)714-5232 InfoLine (412)741-1573 Internet Address: dwgv07c@prodigy.com _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK IV netmag@aol.com SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS ******************************* SPUTNIK IV SATURDAY JUNE, 11 ********** DJ LINEUP ************* SVEN VAN HEES & REMY UNGER (Global Cuts/R&S Records Belgium) LUKE SLATER (GPR Recordings/U.K.) DJ EFX AND DJ DIGIT (3RD Floor Prod./San Francisco) DERRICK CARTER (Organico Records/Chicago) DJ DUKE (ffrr Records/NYC) FRANKIE BONES (Groove Records/Brooklyn) KEOKI (Moonshine Music/NYC) JOHN ACQUAVIVA (+8 Records/Detroit/Toronto) WINK (Ovum/Philadelphia) SCOTT HENRY (Fever/Baltimore/D.C.) ABRAXAS (Fierce Ruling Diva/Holland/NYC) TIGA (DNA/Montreal) MR KLEEN (Satellite/NET/NYC) SCOTT RICHMOND (Satellite/NET/NYC) MGEE (Primary Productions/Boston) ENTITY (Ultraworld/Baltimore) <<<<<>>>>> (Industrial Strength Recording Artists) ****************************************************** ***LIGHTING*** APOLLO ***FULL COLOR AND ARGON LAZERS*** LAZER REFLECTIONS *** VISUALS***: FACTORY (Orlando, FL), MELON DEZIGN (Philadelphia, PA), I-STRAIN (Miami, FL), TERMINAL THREE DEE (Knocksville, TN) 2 SEPARATE DANCE FLOORS IN TWO ROOMS ***LOCATION*** MID HUDSON CIVIC CENTER POUGHKEEPSIE,NY (fully airconditioned-Seating provided) ***TICKET LOCATIONS*** Brooklyn: Groove 718-714-5232 / Manhattan.: Subtopia 212-431-6718 / S.I.: E.C.B. 718-448-8207 / Providence: Luna Sea 401-272-luna / Phili: 611 Records 215-413-9100 / Poughkeepsie: U.N. 914-256-0445 / White Plains: Mad Grill 914-683-9378 / D.C.: Music Now 202-638-3272 / Baltimore: Modern Music 410-523-1882 / Boston Beat 617-561-4790 / New Paltz: Jacks Rythms 914-255-1082 / Albany: Music Shack 518-436-4581 / New Brunswick: Planet X 908-249-0304 / L.I.: DJ Records 516-667-1112 / Toronto: X static 416-599-3851 / Montreal: Juan & Juanita 514-847-2292 TICKETS ON SALE THROUGH JUNE 10th---DAY OF EVENT TICKETS AVAILABLE AT DOOR $18 in advance $20 at the door ***PROMOTION AND BUSES*** <> KC and the Sunrise Gang 207-773-6979 / Raving Maniacs 207-942-0287 <> Dannyboy 617-881-3797 / Primary 617-499-7765 / Framingham: Vibe Tribe 508-877-0790 <> Hartford: United Techno 203-646-6381 / Stamford: Atom Warped 203-454-6643 <> Sugarbear 401-454-6078 / Oracle 401-454-6002 <> Satellite 212-465-3299 / Alan Sanctuary and the Primal Posse 212-696-8938 / Trust Invention 212-631-3533 / Brooklyn: Curios George 718-644-9043 / S.I.: FBI 718-390-7107 / Scooter 212-479-7760 / Poughkeepsie:Up North 914-256-0445 / Westchester:Eponymous 914-941-7569 / Albany: Big Dipper 518-465-6381 / Birth 518-43-Birth / L.I.: Island Vibe Nassau: 516-292-0649 / Suffolk: 516-476-1194 / Syracuse: Kilowatts/Chameleon 315-475-8239 <> Mars 908-506-9592 / E-Force 201-295-1925 / Zinzee 908-938-9633 / <> 611 Records 215-413-9100 / T.H.C. 215-586-0939 / Allentown: Geoffe 610-758-9969 / New Cumberland: Click 717-770-0241 / <>Zenith 302-764-9272 <> Ultraworld 410-880-7031 <> D.C.:Rob Rave/Bohemia 202-338-5638 / Teri & Sean 202-466-1661 / Deanna 202-452-7639 <> Transfused 804-768-2000 / Vikki 804-625-2880 <> Cincinnati: Bob-a-dob 513-648-9467 / Cleveland: Funky Alien Gizmo 216-238-1451 / Doodle Bug 614-597-7551 <> Those Meddling Kids 606-281-4193 <> Drop Bass Network 414-777-3998 <> Lexington: Bluegrass 606-281-4193 / Knoxville: Dweeze 615-524-2448 / Nashville: B.A.M. 615-780-3730 <> Atlanta: Chamber of Dreams 404-250-8230 <> Rainbow 919-512-2953 / Barron 910-334-1546 <>The Alternative Record Store 813-977-6383 <> Montreal:DNA 514-854-6446 / Harmony 514-982-9010 / Toronto:X-static (Alan) 416-599-3851 ======================== ASTRALWERKS AFTERHOURS ======================== OSHEEN,DJ REESE,DAVE TRANCE,TROPOSPHERE,DJ SPROUT,RYDE LOCATION:Hudson Valley Skate Park, Newburgh, NY Free to sputnik ticket holders or with afterhours flyer. Breakfast will be served. Directions will be made available in coming weeks. ***FOR ANY OTHER INFO CALL*** SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS (212)465-3299 E-Mail NETMAG@AOL.COM _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 17 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Jimmy Crash, Ryde, Sun, Who _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 17 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 MINIWARP @ w/ DJs REMY UNGER AND SVEN VAN HEES (Global Cuts/R&S/Belgium) @ the Freight Yard _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 18 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 DEEPER * Guest DJ: DJ PEER (Birmingham, UK/Obsession/member of D:Ream) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 18 CLEVELAND, OH (216) 238 - 1451 TERRA-X Through the long cold winter Funky Alien Gizmos have been putting togehter an event that should prove to be the HOTTEST night in Cleveland,OH thus far Funky Alien Gizmos present Terra-X "The Arrival" Controlling the Masses Rob Black Dave Trance Micro Cleveland Caffeine-L.I. Caffeine-L.I. Boomer Sun Tony Garcia Omegeman-Definitive Records Ultraworld-Baltimore Chicago Dieselboy Wink Dreamer Pittsburgh Sorted-Philly Cleveland-Funky Alien Doors open at 10pm Lighting by Pandemonium Tickets $10 adv, $12 day of [net people will tickets for $8 if they mail] [me their address by may 13th {i'm leaving} ] [in your mail put your name and email addres] This event will take place in an all new 10,000sq ft venue in downtown cleveland and is fully permitted. Smartbar by: NRGETICS Ticket and bus trip info later next week _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 24 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Scott & Robbie Hardkiss & Dante (this will be a special night to kick off Natural Rhythm you will get a discount on your Natural Rhythm if you attend) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE MARYLAND (410) 523 - 1882 NATURAL RHYTHM Spiritual Movement "Natural Rhythem" June 25-26 in up state Maryland Line-up to include: Scott & Robbie Hardkiss Dante Micro Dave Trance Ryde Who Scott Henry Frankie Bones Jason Jinx Lieven Degeyndt 333 Wink Mgee Feelgood On-E Sun and more to be announced........ swimming pools, tennis, vollyball, basketball, and loads of outdoor fun!! info CALL 410-523-1882 to be held in the Baltimore area. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 2 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW [date is still tentative] the Reaction Chamber the Phat room DJ SUN OSHEEN SCOTT HENRY F I L ASTROBOY TERRY MULLEN DAVID J + 2 MORE T.B.A. GREG SEARGENT + 2 MORE T.B.A. the COOLANT AREA ENTITY \ ____ LIVE AMBIENT WORDMOSES / + 2 MORE T.B.A. the GOODIES: 10 WATT LASER INTELLIBEAMS IN ONE ARENA GOLDSCANS IN THE OTHER + MORE COOL LIGHTING SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE MIND MACHINES SMART BAR LIVE VISUALS BY DOUBLE HELIX COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROJECTIONS SERIOUS BLACK LIGHTING (get yer clothes ready!) 1000 FREE GLOWSTICKS (multi-colored army issue!) FREE AFTER PARTY from 9 am - 2 pm 2000 of your closest friends. [we have a spot with a 5 acre field, and a 17 acre parking lot. if all goes as planned we are going to drop in three circus tents (already reserved) one able to hold 1500 people and two which can hold 1000 people. the large tent has a 48' ceiling height! plus there will be a central area in the middle for all the merchants, smart bars, rides, etc... we are getting the city of baltimore involved to some degree. i have talked with the mayor's office and they want to specifically register voters 18 - 25 this year (which is an election year), so they are going to set up a booth. also from the mayor's office, they may set up a drug information booth, which besides giving info away about drug use and abuse will be specifically geared towards furthering the mayor's belief that drugs should be decriminalized! i'm also trying to get a meeting with the entire city council to make them see the benefits of making baltimore "the city that raves", and how they can make it easier on us to get locations. i don't know if they'll go for it, but i know we've got one city councilman who has allowed us to give his name as a reference to anyone we contact about raves. it seems a little counter underground to approach the city in this way, but i have only one motive, and that is to make it so that we can do what we all love to do without all the hassle that so often accompanies the bigger events. plus, when you think about it, this country's government was started by a bunch of underground radicals, and i think there's still the possibility of that radical thought within the current gov. -lonnie] _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, July 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 KHARMA @ Enuff with all the lazers, lighting and fashion. What about the music? An event that puts the music first and that won't bust your wallet either. DJ's: JOEY BELTRAM KEOKI SCOTT HENRY geoffe miko 10 p.m. - 6 a.m. $10 entry fee at the door night of the event. For more information/directions CALL 610 - 433 - 0503 _______________________________________________________________________________ NE-RAVES SUBSCRIPTION AND OTHER INFORMATION: To subscribe to the calendar-only list: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu, "sub ne-raves-cal" To subscribe to the discussion list: mail ne-raves-request@umdd.umd.edu, "sub discuss" To unsubscribe from the calendar-only list: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu, "unsub ne-raves-cal" To unsubscribe from the discussion list: mail ne-raves-request@umdd.umd.edu, "unsub discuss" ALL SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEMS, mail the list admin at anarchy@glue.umd.edu. To access "v-rave", a rave-oriented real-time chat system: telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 or telnet techno.stanford.edu 6000 (try only if 7283 does not respond) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "loops of funk over hardcore beats" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 01:08:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: ONCE AGAIN.... summer's here. In-Reply-To: <199406010359.XAA22233@holmes.umd.edu> Oh. My. God. mikebee :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 05:00:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: this amazing weekend! oh my god!!! rave the bay, spiritual movement and MGP2?!?!?! there are gonna be a bunch of really happy and really broke ravers out there by sunday...:) if u are still wishy-washy on the whole rave the bay thing...dont be. go. ok, $35 is more than u normally pay...but u have *no* idea how paht his party is gonna be. this is not hype. go or regret your decision. and for those of u smart/lucky enuff to go, make sure you are on the second deck (or whichever on he ends up on) when dieselBoy hits the decks...he has a special set planned for you that is going to make u smile...and for some of us, it just mite be enuff to bring tears of joy (honestly)...im getting a lump in my throat now thinking about it...for those of you who dont like breaks, *please* let this be the e time where u give them a second chance and really listen to them...for those of u who do like them...prepare to be swept off your feet by the waves of sonic bliss that will be pumping out of the speakers during dieselBoys set...the *entire* lineup is sooo phat. some of us, come morning, just mite have to persuade the captain to keep on sailing... ("no sir, i *really* dont think _any_ of us, you included, are ready to land just yet..." ;) then theres sm in bmore hte next nite...ooo kimball collins....:) yeah!! and who and bobble? for what...$6 or $8?! EVERYONE....IF U CAN ONLY GO TO ONE PARTY THIS WEEKEND...GO TO MGP2!!!! IT IS FREE, IT WILL BE PHAT, IT IS THE BASIC ESSENCE OF RAVES AND WHAT RAVING IS ALL ABOUT... we all need and like high quality, well produced events, but this will be a old school renegade underground...the way that it was meant to be....the buzz from last years mgp (mobile grooves posse) went on for several months afterwards, long after the stories of the larger commercial raves had come and gone...dont miss your opportunity to experience this event. i will see you *all* _there_ ...:) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:48:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: Re: Mental Review hmm, any chance that the location for mental might be the same one that they use for Galaxy 2000 this saturday night??? just wondering :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:13:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: Richie Hawtin Remixes hmm, i have been going over my record collection, and i noticed something peculiar about richie hawtin's stuff... he remixes other people's tracks, but not his own... hmm, Does any other DJ out ther know if Hawtin has remixed any of his own tracks It strikes me as peculiar, but not bad. The closest thing i have found is "F.U. and "F.U.2" but that doesn't count :) help? rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:06:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Colby Newton Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Colby Newton Subject: MILLINNEUM (MORPH BEAT I) Just heard on the MILLINNEUM (Pittsburgh, PA) infoline that Joel is planning a party (says it's gonna be massive) with at tentative date of June 16th called MORPH BEAT I. (I love the names he comes up for events!) I'm getting pretty hyped for it, and i don't know anything about it yet! Good luck Millinneum...I can't WAIT for this summer! Oh yea- their line is (412) 734-5549. HANNiBAL @ FOOD contact 412-734-8458 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:35:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: nike cortez the original style nike cortez arent being re-established but there is a very similar version out now (Ive seen them at some stores)the soles arent exactly the same but they definatly have the same idea and very similar style. Ive only seen them in black w/ white swoosh and I dont know the name of them. I personally think the original ones (the ones I had as a kid and have now) are nicer... Cori ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 12:32:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Mental Review In-Reply-To: <199406011456.KAA24754@holmes.umd.edu> >DATE: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 10:48:07 -0400 >FROM: Obin C. Robinson > >hmm, >any chance that the location for mental might be the same one that they >use for Galaxy 2000 this saturday night??? It's doubtful. There is supposedly going to be some devil worship/ritual thing taking place at the site this Saturday. Virtually yours, Bob "Thank God I'm not a goat" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 15:06:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Thanks for the Info Hey Gang, Just a quick thanks to all those who answered my pleas for information on Racine St in Chicago. The Ozzie dude is thankful and such - I'm still not sure why he needed to know as I don't know Racine and I've not seen the Untouchables ( or whatever movie it was ) that triggered the question. It wouldn't happen to be the tenderloin / redlight district of town now would it? This wouldn't surprise me :) Gotta fly - take care and see whom ever shows at Sputnik IV - I'm bugging to get there and will be naffed if I have to miss it... Grant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Grant's Apothecary - where your pleasure is *our* business... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 17:45:51 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: MENTAL! Hey all, Here's a few words on Sunday night's Mental party, now that i managed to sleep clean through Monday :^l Mental was held in a not-so-abandoned warehouse in Brooklyn right by the water, away from any visible residential areas [more later :)] After getting lost for almost 2 hours, we finally arrived at the site. Note well folks, when you're travelling to Brooklyn or any other strange new world, remember to first bring a map, and second, make sure it has all the pages it was intended to carry :) Though we missed the map-point by almost 2 hours, we ran into some kind raver souls who directed us to the rave site, which was fortunately not too far away. The party space was much as Mars described, a place of industrial post-nuclear havoc, and yet a place of beauty too. Set right on the waterfront, the warehouse was a wreck - huge gaping open walls on two sides, fallen rafters, adorned inside with graffitti and some strange markings and writings. About 150 or so people were inside at the peak time, all dancing to some of the best music i've heard at a party in quite some time. Two speaker stacks towards the far wall, a strobe, a single red light scanning the walls and probing the darkness of the end of the warehouse, and floodlights from bordering construction yards. Outside were grassy and sandy areas where people were chilling out and where a few people went exploring. We came in on Carlos Tera's set, which was fantastic. The flavor for the night, as you can imagine, was HARD - hard acid, hard trance, hardcore, hard house. You get the picture. We soon met up with the small gang of Net folks - me, Bob, Mars, Jacob, though i didn't get to meet the others. Perhaps this was just a choice night for strange occurences, but what followed must go down in the books as one of the most bizarre things to ever occur at a rave. Jacob, on an adventurous trip had discovered that the warehouse itself and it's neighbouring abandoned buildings were not quite as uninhabited as we had thought. At around 5:30am a bunch of us set out to explore the closest of these buildings. Inside was perhaps the weirdest place that anyone could possibly call home. Old battered furniture, a few mattresses, strange fixtures hanging off the walls, old machinery refurbished to new and strange sculptures, an interesting collection of glass-like figures arranged on a table, another set of figurines made out of typewriter parts, and all over the walls - really disturbing murals depicting human figures with parts cut out of them. Apparently the artists had fled the building when we arrived and were hiding out in the adjacent buildings. Damn, don't i wish i had brought my camera :^) Anyway, the party was in short, a great time for all. I had not been to a rave since Red (apart from Blink last weekend, but that was .. well :) and in truth, i didn't think i was missing all that much - until this party, and i think more than a few of you know what i mean. here's looking to a wonderful summer of these great little outdoor events, and i hope many more of you venture out for them. peace and strong vibes, FiSH ps. sorry about the formatting, it's late and i don't feel like re-formatting :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:00:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalya Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalya Subject: sub discuss hello. i was interested in subscribing to the discussion division. my address is: unrest@wam.umd.edu thank you, jill ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:18:09 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ONCE AGAIN.... summer's here. In-Reply-To: <199406010519.BAA22714@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 1 Jun 1994, Michel Battaglia wrote: > Oh. My. God. > mikebee > I know, I gotta go! Man, I just gotta! Consider this a Hookup-O-Matic request melzie. ride deperately needed to the MGP Joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:22:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , TSIMPSON@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Terence Simpson Subject: Re: Sun? Heather Heart is not involved with Sun in any way. Neither is Frankie Bones, Adam X, or Jimmy Crash involved except that they might be asked to spin. Sun is Dennis the Menace's project. Call him for info. Terence ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 18:38:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: this amazing weekend! In-Reply-To: <199406010901.FAA23163@holmes.umd.edu> I *fully* agree with Hossam. last year's MGP was a small event that bonded me to the people there forever. it was a very magical party that reminded me why i liked raving to begin with and how incredible a rave can be. by *ALL MEANS* get yourself to this party. beg, borrow, beg some more (can't have any stealing here..):)..just be there. i'll be waiting with a smile and a hug for ya. :) mikebee ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:25:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: this amazing weekend! well, i didnt think i was gonna be thinking about this, but.... since i will be spinning at MGP 2 anyways, and a lot of the ne crew will be there (you bettah!), but i'm actually tempted to throw all my gear in the car and do a PA as well...hmmmm....i blame all of you for getting me psyched up ;) so, no promises, but you might be getting a little bit more than you bargained for this weekend :) (providing the space can accomidate that sort of thing) also, there might be a chance of another dj, as well....and you wont be dissappointed!!! (heee....chew on THAT one for a bit!) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 19:25:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Vrave Okay everyone. Vrave is down for right now. I am not connected to the running of it so I can't say for sure what is wrong or how long it will take to come back up. Who knows, maybe it is already up. But in the meantime, I would suggest the following address: cns.cncns.com 9696 This is HoloHaus, the Rave port. It is vaguely similiar to Vrave in texture and software. But there are alot of differences in both areas. Anyhow, I hope to see more of you folks show up there. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:02:22 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: Richie Hawtin Remixes >Does any other DJ out ther know if Hawtin has remixed any of his own tracks sure he has! Let's see, of the top of my head, from the Plastikman album, there's a remix of Gak, the remix of Spastik is called Helicopter. He's done a bunch of remixes with +8 and Probe stuff. The remixes he did for Hardfloor's "Into the Nature" sound just like his Krakpot & Elektrostatik single remixed. Check out the "Recycled Plastik" CD single. It has a bunch of remixes. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:33:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Exploding Heads - Thinking Can Be Fatal This filtered down the list recently from a friend - it's *so* mad and the funny bit is, it sounds like many people I know, including myself. Enjoy :) Oh yeah, usual apologies to those who have already seen this, as to the ObRave for the Rave Netters I've sent this to - well, it's bloody ObVious when you get to the bits about aching heads, craving for sweet foods, over-doing-the-self-analysis-bit and difficulty getting thorts out :) Grant ---------- | >From the WEEKLY WORLD NEWS, May 24, 1994 | | MOSCOW -- | | Doctors are blaming a rare electrical imbalance in the brain | for the bizarre death of a chess player whose head literally | exploded in the middle of a championship game! | | No one else was hurt in the fatal explosion but four players | and three officials at the Moscow Candidate Masters' Chess | Championships were sprayed with blood and brain matter when | Nikolai Titov's head suddenly blew apart. Experts say he | suffered from a condition called Hyper-Cerebral Electrosis or | HCE. | | "He was deep in concentration with his eyes focused on the | board," says Titov's opponent, Vladimir Dobrynin. "All of a | sudden his hands flew to his temples and he screamed in pain. | Everyone looked up from their games, startled by the noise. | Then, as if someone had put a bomb in his cranium, his head | popped like a firecracker." | | Incredibly, Titiov's is not the first case in which a person's | head has spontaneously exploded. Five people are known to | have died of HCE in the last 25 years. The most recent death | occurred just three years ago in 1991, when European psychic | Barbara Nicole's skull burst. Miss Nicole's story was | reported by newspapers worldwide, including WWN. "HCE is an | extremely rare physical imbalance," said Dr. Anatoly | Martinenko, famed neurologist and expert on the human brain | who did the autopsy on the brilliant chess expert. "It is a | condition in which the circuits of the brain become overloaded | by the body's own electricity. The explosions happen during | periods of intense mental activity when lots of current is | surging through the brain. Victims are highly intelligent | people with great powers of concentration. Both Miss Nicole | and Mr. Titov were intense people who tended to keep those | cerebral circuits overloaded. In a way it could be said they | were literally too smart for their own good." | | Although Dr. Martinenko says there are probably many | undiagnosed cases, he hastens to add that very few people will | die from HCE. "Most people who have it will never know. At | this point, medical science still doesn't know much about HCE. | And since fatalities are so rare it will probably be years | before research money becomes available." | | In the meantime, the doctor urges people to take it easy and | not think too hard for long periods of time. "Take frequent | relaxation breaks when you're doing things that take lots of | mental focus," he recommends. | | | (As a public service, WWN added a sidebar titled HOW TO TELL | IF YOUR HEAD'S ABOUT TO BLOW UP:) | | Although HCE is very rare, it can kill. Dr. Martinenko says | knowing you have the condition can greatly improve your odds | of surviving it. A "yes" answer to any three of the following | seven questions could mean that you have HCE: | | 1. Does your head sometimes ache when you think too hard? | (Head pain can indicate overloaded brain circuits.) | | 2. Do you ever hear a faint ringing or humming sound in your | ears? (It could be the sound of electricity in the skull | cavity.) | | 3. Do you sometimes find yourself unable to get a thought out | of your head? (This is a possible sign of too much electrical | activity in the cerebral cortex.) | | 4. Do you spend more than five hours a day reading, balancing | your checkbook, or other thoughtful activity? (A common | symptom of HCE is a tendency to over-use the brain.) | | 5. When you get angry or frustrated do you feel pressure in | your temples? (Friends of people who died of HCE say the | victims often complained of head pressure in times of strong | emotion.) | | 6. Do you ever overeat on ice cream, doughnuts and other | sweets? (A craving for sugar is typical of people with too | much electrical pressure in the cranium.) | | 7. Do you tend to analyze yourself too much? (HCE sufferers | are often introspective, "over-thinking" their lives.) | | ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 1 Jun 1994 23:49:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: Cheap clothes on a candy box! In-Reply-To: <199406010358.XAA22218@holmes.umd.edu> from "DJEntox@AOL.COM" at May 31, 94 10:26:36 pm > > Hey all, > Since we have all the chat about clothes, I thought I'd mention a neat-o > offer I saw on the back of a Jujyfruits box.. You can get a Jujyfruits > t-shirt (I think it's yellow, like the box) for 2 upc's and 7.50.!! > I'm definetley grabbing up the offer, I just thought it was a kewl thing.. > the design is just like the design on the front of the box. I wonder if > they're trying to target ravers? =) > I picked me up one of these quite a while ago, and they are pretty RAD!! I love to wear mine, and feel all JUJY :) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 01:50:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: And the REAL enemy is..... hmm, this one is gonna be a bit lengthy (for me), but read on.... Since i was a kid, i believed what many kids are fed about the police and about the newspapers... the police arecorrupt, and teh newspapers expose this "fact"... but the events this past weekend has led me to believe otherwise... on monday morning, at 1.50am, some friends and i were launching fireworks into the water off of a bridge. we were about to go home, when a cop asked us if we were launching fireworks. we cooperated, and a half hour later, we were the embarrased owners of tickets for fireworks possession. all throughout the event, the cop was very helpful, and understanding. he was almost on "our" side, and he knew that we were just foolin', and meant no harm. but he had to do his job, and he gave us a ticket. no problem. he was very nice about it too... now, today, teh local paper prints a report about foue "men" who got "arrested" for fireworks, which were later "confiscated" after we were confronted folowing the incident(!!!) huh??? was that us??? a run in with the local paper editor provided no help, or apology. and due to a technicality, wecan't do a thing about the article, which was printed next to an article about burglary, vandalism, and assault!!! huh???? was that us??? we were pissed, and asked our friendly local cops about it. the bottom line is that we shouldn't bother the papers, because no matter what, they can find a technicality, or an interesting twist in the english language which will "prove" them right... so much for faith in journalism. now, what's this have to do with raving??? in a way, not much, but... have YOU ever noticed that you can be a witness to an incedent, and see itsdistortion in the newspaper? doesn't it anger you? corning is one of the few places i have lived in where the police are on YOUR side, I am not joking! the events of this past weekend have caused me to deduce the bottom line for encounters with police.... ok, you've heard it before, but they ARE just doing their job. everyone has bad days, so do they. the cop that tickets you for dropping bottle rockets into the water is the same cop that may some day chase down a group of preps that throw a brick at you from a moving car. the guy that you give the finger to in his squad car may be the same guy that helps one of your friends after he's been beaten up. i hate prejudice, in any form, by any person, to any other person. only now do i relize that a "bad" cop is a rare cop, or to quote THRASHER magazine: "There are cops taht are cool, and just as many taht are uncool. There's a jerk-off plice officer for every loud-mouthed, shithead skateboarder in the world. Nature adores harmony." also, i have known from friends who have cops for parents, that they were the same screw-offs when they were kids. and a few tips to help you if you do get busted for something or another: always address the cop as "Sir", in a calm voice if you have committed an offense, say taht you are "sorry", and "stupid" for doing so, and you wish that you were't so short-sighted, they like that don't be afraid to approach a cop while off duty and talk to them, even if you think otherwise, tell them that they are doing a fine job, this will show them that just because you look funny in your clothes; you arent a bad person, or a troublemaker if a friend of yours is tripping, and the cop is suspicious, say that your friend is trying to beat an endurance record, and has stayed awake for over 56 hours (it actually worked for me, he he he) if you are having a bad trip, say to a cop that it is possibly food poisoning or bad interaction between food and perscription medicine, it may just work if you play it off right. at last ditch...cry! (this works better than you think) all in all, i have new faith in the police, and new lack of credibility for our local newspaper. i'm gonna frame the article, and flaunt it. what do YOU think??? 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 01:53:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: permits????? help!!!! hmm, we have located some excellent spots for massive raves upstate. i am wondering how to get permits. this time, were going to throw a party that can't be busted. all the locations are great spots open to the sky and stars...ranging from 1 acre to 60 acres. where does one go for permits to rave on state lands??? are they hard to get??? just wondering, if it is worth it, that is :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:41:03 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: And the REAL enemy is..... In-Reply-To: <199406020551.BAA03769@holmes.umd.edu> Look I appreciate the message about cops but try addressing them sir when your head is being ramed through a phone booth because you are the "wrong" color and in the "wrong" neighboorhood, at the "wrong" time of night. No amount of that pro cop FOP propaganda can erase that from your mind. It's a true story that happened to me while trying to find a friends new apartment. The excuse? I fit the "profile" of someone who was ripping off car stereos. The provocation (from me)? Simply asking why I was being stopped. Sure, some cops are on your side and are legitimately concerned about the community but if you, (like my dad) worked around my dad for some 20-30 years you will quickly realize the "us vs. them/thin blue line" stuff they are fed and spout daily at the headquaters. The only way to prevent such abuses of power is to have a community review panel (after all they work for US, we pay their check to protect and serve US), why should they get to police themselves? Anyway most of what you said is common sense however if you don't know the kind of mentality you are up against in most cases (and yes we as ravers are considered "them" no matter what you look like) any thing short of that understanding is naivety. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 02:45:08 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: And the REAL enemy is..... In-Reply-To: <199406020551.BAA03769@holmes.umd.edu> Oh and incidentally, around the same time this incident I mentioned happened another friend of mine was getting stuck up in an area of town not far away, needless to say the cops had better things to do like harrasing an innocent, lost person. Joe ~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 03:05:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mary Veta Brown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mary Veta Brown Subject: Re: And the REAL enemy is..... In-Reply-To: <199406020551.BAA03769@holmes.umd.edu> > now, today, teh local paper prints a report about foue "men" who got > "arrested" for fireworks, which were later "confiscated" after we were > confronted folowing the incident(!!!) > all in all, i have new faith in the police, and new lack of credibility for > our local newspaper. i'm gonna frame the article, and flaunt it. I haven't had many experiences with cops...bad or good, but I agree with you totally on the media thing. At a recent rave we had a guy that overdosed on acid. He started going crazy and eventually had to be taken to the hospital. A local tv station found out about this and decided to do a little three part series on drugs in the nineties. (sorry if you vravers have heard this...I bitched a lot about it on there) The first night was devoted to raves, and generation X with it's skaters, ravers, zippies etc. They interviewed a bunch of ravers, and easily included the negative clips, but when somebody said a but--like but these raves are free of violence....they seemed to cut it. I was really pissed, cuz the whole report gave a completely bad look to raves, and may even hurt our future events. The media can cut things to pieces and have it say just what they want with simple editing...oh well, it was still kinda cool to see a party on the news. :) Merrick Brown - Vertigo ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 10:24:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Colby Newton Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Colby Newton Subject: JOURNEES Shirts @ Synovial EVERYONE :) Hey this is Hannibal from the Food Group in Pittsburgh. We have recently formed a "trade agreement" with Journees/Realtime clothing out in Cupertino, California, and will be distributing some of their wares out on the east coast very soon. I know many of you (including myself not to long ago) have not heard of Journees or their products. They are a group of people that throw some killer events on the west coast, as well as design some of the coolest shirts I have ever seen. The guy Eric that owns the company is cool as all hell- we started talking to him and now are going to help him distribute his stuff in our scenes out here. These shirts are totally unique- not only like Fresh Jive or Stussy (or whatever) they are all totally cool however virtually unknown of on the east coast... ANYHOW... FiNGER and I will be selling them at SYNOVIAL FLUID on the 11th (Pittsburgh, PA) and at SCOOBY SNACKS on the 13th (Latrobe, PA). Hope to see you out there- come groove and check out the Journees and Realtime shirts... we're gonna to some mail order for them pretty soon too... PEACE-LOVE-UNITY-GARBONZO + H A N N i B A L + contact (412) 734-8458 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 12:37:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalya Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalya Subject: Re: media i guess that's why it's up to us to change the way media portrays us. maybe more people involved in the rave scene should get together and put out publications, then maybe a positive light will be shown. -jill ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 13:43:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Citizen Kane Tableman, Nathan E." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Citizen Kane Tableman, Nathan E." Subject: Clipper et al. hello - I am writting the vision statement for my universities computer needs for the next 10 years and I need the info that circulated on the clipper cchip a while back. If any one can forward it to me I'd love it. also - how do I change the subscription address? Thanks nathan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 14:45:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: Clipper et al. there is an article in today's front page new york times stating that a co sci scientist at bell broke the security on the clipper chip. this may be a death knell for the clipper chip, but then the avg citizen probably couldn't block the back door on this chip anyway. i would guess that the clipper goes forth on its own inertia and brings us closer to an orwellian society where the truly criminal or truly powerful have their usual freedom. if only robo-cop was here :) get pgp while you can! haZard ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 14:55:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Re: Clipper et al. In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 02 Jun 94 14:45:45 CDT." <9406021851.AB27478@minerva.cis.yale.edu> > Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 14:45:45 -0500 > From: brendan mcdougall > > there is an article in today's front page new york times stating that > a co sci scientist at bell broke the security on the clipper chip. > > this may be a death knell for the clipper chip, but then the avg > citizen probably couldn't block the back door on this chip anyway. i > would guess that the clipper goes forth on its own inertia and brings > us closer to an orwellian society where the truly criminal or truly > powerful have their usual freedom. Yeah, I was smiling when I saw that article. Go NYT! :) Apparently, there is also something in the Wall Street Journal about it. I liked how they quoted the NSA as saying, in effect, "Yup, we know it's there. Yup, it's a security problem. Yup, you all should still use it." But, people who wanted to circumvent clipper could always just use some other public-key system on top of it...for data communications. I don't understand how either the security hole in the article or additional encryption could be used for things like phone conversations... -dave ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 16:15:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: And the REAL enemy is..... I figured out for myself that not ALL cops are all that bad. One morning as a rave was winding down in Charleston, SC a few months back I looked over and saw this 50ish year old cop under a speaker stack dancing his tush off :) It was such a killer sight to see a cop getting soooo into the music. I was so happy to see him grooving away that I went over and shook his hand and told him that I thought it was kewl of him to dance and and see what we are about than to try to play Mr. Bad-ass like so many of them tend to do. He was grooving so hard that before long there were quite a few of us dancing along with him just enjoying the vibe :) The world CAN be a happy place, Noj ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 17:19:38 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: media In-Reply-To: <199406021637.MAA07067@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 2 Jun 1994, Natalya wrote: > i guess that's why it's up to us to change the way media portrays us. > maybe more people involved in the rave scene should get together and put > out publications, then maybe a positive light will be shown. > > -jill Yes, this is true and I have been saying this all along. I think that we have been lucky here in Pittsburgh since all the media attention thus far (One live TV interview and 2 or 3 articles in the local papers) have been positive or indifferent. Not one touched on the drug use or anything of that nature. They all took the tone of "a bunch of young adults out for a night of fun." attitude. So one of the promoters here has seen this (thanks to me) as a definate asset and in the future will release good PR to the local media before a big event to prevent them from comming into the story "cold" and therefore sensationalizing the event and the scene in general. I heard that promoters in the UK have been doing this for a while. It is inevitable that when a scene comes above ground (as the rave scene has) that it has to "meet the press". Better to meet them on our terms than on the terms of some reporter who's out to make a name for themselves by "exposing" the "evils" of the rave scene. In the case of the TV interview, it was conducted by the entertainment reporter for KDKA-TV for the "What's Hot?" segment on the 11 o'clock news back in Nov. 1992 when we threw PowerRave '92. Not only was that good PR but the scene increased alot in the year after that. One thing promoters can do to make friends withe media as well as the local public officials is have a voter registration booth set up with the vendors. One of these could be staffed by people from the League of Women Voters or some other organization, or the promoter might even be able to get away with his own people staffing it. This would also give the media/community a reason or motive for the party. The least represented voter age group is the 18-25 year olds. A promoter can point to this as a prime reason the party is going on (even though it's not). What politician would be against a something like a voter registration party? Hell, being for it might even get him re-elected. Another thing would be a booth with safe sex information perhaps in cooperation with the county health department. The more distractions the better, anything to keep them from zeroing in on that one clueless person who is smoking a bol right in full view of the camera, etc. Giving donations to charitable organizations is good and many parties have (or claim to have) done this. However, this is not enough to prevent the prying eyes of the media from looking into "What really goes on at a rave?". There as I said, should be on-site distractions. And EVERY major promoter should have a PR person who at the event is on the lookout for media people (hopefully since you already contacted them you know they are comming). This person would have the job of taking them around and showing them selected things (such as the booths I mentioned above) and other diversions like the moonbounce, gyrobix or carnival rides or whatever the theme of the night is. Now I am not saying that this will prevent every bad story from happining. Sometimes (in the case of someone who overdosed or something) it is unavoidble. What I AM saying is that promoters could do alot more to insure good press. And that can only be done by making friends with the local media people, the community and some of the local power brokers. (Volunteering for their campaign in an election year is a good idea.) We have a rave-friendly mayor (who's daughters go to parties) because of something along these lines. Overall the message should be of the positive things that we know raves bring. It should follow something along the lines of "All these kids are here having a good time without getting caught up in the violence and street crime of the city. Where else can this many people be together without so much as a fight?" And the event should have a purpose (for the media and other outsiders) so it doens't show up on the 6 o'clock news as "a bunch of drugged out kids going insane to weird music" In some areas where the bad press has been around for awhile like LA or NY or DC the what I mentioned above may be too little to late. Not to say that it shouldn't be tried but I think the success of something like this would most likely be greater in an area witch has had maybe only one or two negative reports. The attitude in these areas could probably be turned around much easier. Man, this was long but its something I feel strongly about and if it can help the scene even a little bit than it was well worth it. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 18:02:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: rave patches?? Does anyone know where I can get some really groovy sew-on/iron-on patches? groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:01:17 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: rave patches?? Well.. There's an Aphex Twin Iron on patch that you can get for 3 pounds.. I believe it's the famous "a".. here's the Aphex Merchandise address: Aphex Merchandise PO Box 3637 London N16 9AZ England I want one myself, but my bank has a problem converting dollars to pounds.. wankers! Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:32:31 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? Hey all! Will there be an ne-raves meeting spot @ Sputnik 4? Maybe we could meet outside of the Radisson hotel (which I hear is, I belive, attached to the civic center.. and it's where I'm staying for the day) We could meet up right at 10 or before.. I was just wondering becaus I know of so many Ne-Ravers that are going.. I'm psyched for this event.. see you all there !! =) Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:51:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: Re: rave patches?? hmm, patches, eh? try an army surplus store, they are great sources for patches. also, try a fabric store. or a pawn shop display case. or the backs of cereal boxes. was i of help? just wondering :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 00:57:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: look for the goggles and the baffles [|) he he he i'll be groovin the night away at Galaxy 2000, hopefully... i hope to see some fellow net-ravers there. regardless of the shirt (i change clothes every four hours of dancing), i'll be sporting my trademark US Army issue Desert Sand/Dust Goggles, and my Beretts USA ear-protection baffles (looks like headphones).... i'll be with a couple of my friends from college, so don't hesitate to introduce yourself to us... i'm gonna bring some *surprises* to the event, so i'll see YOU there rave on! as always. 1000 oops, just noticed that in my last posting about the real enemy, i forgot to include this line... And the real enemy is.... misinformation! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:11:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: Clipper et al. On 06-02-94, DAVID SKLAR wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU: DS> But, people who wanted to circumvent clipper could always just use DS> some other public-key system on top of it...for data communications. DS> I don't understand how either the security hole in the article or DS> additional encryption could be used for things like phone DS> conversations... The chip can be used with a digial telephone to encrypt audio (and later, video) communication. PGP or something similar will probably be implemented in the same manner, asynchronously verifying keys, encrypting and decrypting the data stream (having been converted from audio) on the fly. This will probably be implemented by your "multimedia" personal computer, or your "interactive television". d3 `-{> --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:18:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: Clipper et al. Oooops! Here is the rest of the article: -------->resnip<-------- We all want to catch criminals, spies, and drug dealers, but we shouldn't give the police and intelligence folks license to play fast and loose with the Constitution. The Bill of Rights protects the privacy of every citizen who locks the door at night. Yes, the police can enter with a proper search warrant, but they don't have a set of spare keys for every house in the country. The Clipper peril arises not just from a few court-sanctioned wiretaps and decodings. For it to work at all, the government must impose police-state authority over the entire national communications structure. It isn't even clear if this is possible. Remote wireless encrypted terminals would be difficult to locate and tap. And taps in the modern megabit networks would require a massive re-engineering for carriers beyond anything ever asked for by a president invoking wartime powers. Commercial technology in all fields, especially in cryptography, has surpassed the once relatively simply world of wiretaps and bugs. Only through massive, state-ordered interference in essential institutions of society can eavesdroppers and surveillance agents ply their trade. I, for one, am not prepared to cede such pre-emptory power to the state just for the sake of a few wiretaps. After all, even today there are only about three-dozen court-sanctioned wiretaps a year in the entire country. That 's hardly enough to justify a police-oriented shake-up of national communications. In a fit of Orwellian Newspeak, the Clinton administration also wants us to believe that Clipper will help U.S. industry increase exports of encrypted products. After all, the administration will lift most export controls on Clipper encryption systems--as if foreign customers want fear that will let Uncle Sam crack their secure communications. The White House, however, retains rigid export control on all other U.S. crypto systems. Virtually all U.S. export curbs, however, are meaningless, since comparable foolproof coded systems are available on open commercial markets throughout the world. Only U.S. electronics companies are hung up in export controls, while foreign rivals are happily picking up forfeited orders. Well, Mr. Clinton, your crypto policy is certainly cracking down on one sector--U.S. industry, who you had promised to make competitive in global markets. And Vice President Gore has misplaced his priorities in promoting Clipper as a way "to protect American Society." A free society needs to be protected from Clipper and the state control it portends. ********** End of Robertson column ************************** ... Just say no to Clipper/Capstone/NSA -------->unsnip<-------- Hope that helps. d3 `-{> ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 19:50:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: ThE fReAk OuT rOoM!/John On 05-31-94, MISTER MOUNTAIN DEW wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU: MMD> Over the weekend, I picked up a record that would be perfect for a MMD> freak-out room. It's called "Electronic Music" and has three tracks MMD> recorded from 1958-65 by John Cage, Luciano Berio and Ilhan MMD> Mimaroglu. Really weird stuff, quite random at times. MMD> MMD> I don't know much about the other artists, but I know John Cage has MMD> done some phat things like algorithmically generating poetry from MMD> text and algorithmic music. Cage challenges people to expand thier internal definition of "music" to a much broader sense. Lots of people considered some of his pieces completely unmusical to the core, collections of sound effects. One of my favorites is where you just place 4 radios on stage and tune them into 4 different stations, he called this a concerto or something like that. He has also written pieces for "prepared" piano, where you place things on certain strings like felt pads, strings of beads or barbed wire; the piano may be accompanied by a percussion ensemble of bowed marimba, brake drums, and slung mugs. (actually, slung mugs are played in a Benjemen Britten chancel opera) Cage predicted how digital sampling and computer sequencing would be used in popular music, long before the technology ever existed. (FYI: Pulse Code Modulation, the format of most (all?) digital recording/sampling methods was theoretically invented in the 1940's but it was impossible to implement at the time, facts I'm sure Cage were well versed in. In fact it was not until digital electronics were fast enough that anyone could realize the format; makes you wonder what the next breakthrough will be, stored away in some latent geniuses notebooks from long ago.) I have read parts of a couple of Cage books, but since my library doesn't carry them, and the people at Borders want me to keep buying coffee if I stay at their shop all day, I have yet to really get in deep. I reccomend reading anything he has written, you will be astounded at how insightfull this man was, and how his work has influenced the many forms of music we listen to. Some people say that if it weren't for Cage's influence on artists like Steven Reich, Phillip Glass and others, techno would sound much different, if it existed at all! MMD> Berio's piece, "Visage", is an intense, strange groove. It's got a MMD> female voice who seems to speak, yet says no words. It's described MMD> on the album cover as "a sound track for a 'drama' that was never MMD> written." MMD> Does anyone know anything else about these artists? I am not familiar with either of these other artists, except I think that Berio did that very strange tribute to Paganini, with all the odd tape edits of voice and violin. d3 `-{> --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 2 Jun 1994 23:10:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: CLIPPER OPPOSITION UP Conf: Public Keys (385 ) On 06-02-94, CITIZEN KANE TABLEMAN, NA wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU>: CKTN> I am writting the vision statement for my universities computer CKTN> needs for the next 10 years and I need the info that circulated on CKTN> the clipper cchip a while back. If any one can forward it to me CKTN> I'd love it. Here's what I could find on it: -------->snip<------- To: ALL Date: 02-17.94 From: JIM BELL Time: 15:18 -------------------------------------------------- New York Times: Monday, February 14, 1994 , Essay William Safire, SINK THE CLIPPER CHIP Washington Well-meaning law and intelligence officials, vainly seeking to maintain their vanishing ability to eavesdrop, have come up with a scheme that endangers the personal freedom of every American. Nobody doubts that F.B.I. wiretaps help catch crooks or that the National Security Agency's "Big Ears" alert us to the plans of terrorists. And nobody can deny that new technology makes it easier for the bad guys to encode their communications to avoid the eavesdropping of the good guys. But the solution that faceless Clinton officials are putting forward shows outdated law enforcement rooted in abysmal understanding of the information explosion. The Clinton notion, recycled from an aborted Bush idea, is to put the same encryption chip; in every telephone and computer made in the U.S. This new encoding device, or scrambler, would help you and me protect the privacy of our conversations and messages and bank accounts from each other. That sounds great, but here comes the catch: The Federal Government would know and be able to use the code numbers to wiretap each of us. To the tune of "I Got Algorithm," the Eavesdrop Establishment is singing that it will help us protect our privacy --- but not from intrusion by the Feds. In effect, its proposal demands we turn over to Washington a duplicate set of keys to our homes, formerly our castles, where not even the king in olden times could go. The "clipper chip" --- aptly named, as it clips the wings of individual liberty --- would encode, for Federal perusal whenever a judge rubber- stamped a warrant, everything we say on a phone, everything we write on a computer, every order we give to a shopping network or bank or 800 or 900 number, every electronic note we leave our spouses or dictate to our personal-digit-assistant genies. Add to that stack of intimate date the medical information derived from the national "health security card" Mr. Clinton proposes we all carry. Combine it with the travel, shopping and credit data available from all our plastic cards, along with psychological and student test scores. Throw in the confidential tax returns, sealed divorce proceedings, welfare records, field investigations for job applications, raw files and C.I.A. dossiers available to the Feds, and you have the individual citizen standing naked to the nosy bureaucrat. Assure us not that our personal life stories will be "safeguarded" by multiple escrows in the brave new world of snooperware; we saw only last month how political appointees can rifle the old-fashioned files of candidates and get off scot-free. Whenever personal information is amassed and readily available, it will be examined by the curious, and if it is valuable, it will be stolen by political hackers. Ah, but wouldn't it be helpful to society to have instant access to the encoded communications of a Mafia capo, or a terrorist ordering the blow-up of a skyscraper, or a banker financing a dictator's nuclear development? Sure it would. That's why no self-respecting vice overlord or terrorist or local drug-runner would buy or use clipper-chipped American telecommunications equipment. They would buy non-American hardware with unmonitored Japanese or German or Indian encryption chips and laugh all the way to the plutonium factory. The only people tap-able by American agents would be honest Americans ___ or those crooked Americans dopey enough to buy American equipment with the pre-compromised American code. Subsequent laws to mandate the F.B.I. bug in every transmitter would be as effective as today's laws banning radar detectors. Tomorrow's law enforcement and espionage cannot be planned by people stuck in the wiretap and Big Ear mind-set of the past. The new Ultra secret is that the paradigm has shifted; encryption has overcome decryption. Billions now spent on passive technical surveillance must be shifted to active means of learning criminal or aggressive plans. Human informers must be recruited or placed, as "sigint" declines and "humint" rises in the new era; psychic as well as monetary rewards for ratting must be raised; governments must collude closely to trace transfers of wealth. Cash in your clipper chips, wiretappers: you can't detect the crime wave of the future with those old earphones on. ****************** End of Safire Column ***************** Electronic Buyer's News "A Closer Look", February 14, 1994, Page 2, by Jack Robertson. "Orwell Was Ten Years Early." Washington--Big Brother is alive and well in the government's Clipper encryption chip. The feds have made Clipper and its associated encryption codes a Federal Information Processing Standard in order to push agencies and people who communicate with the government to adopt the voice and data code. They embrace Clipper because it has an acknowledged "trapdoor" that allows law-enforcement agencies in wiretaps to unlock the encryption and decipher the message. Government officials, including Vice President Al Gore, Jr., claim Clipper is absolutely essential to the protection of society--because it allows the proper government agencies to eavesdrop on criminals, drug dealers, terrorists, and enemy agents. Question: Why would any criminal, terrorist, or enemy agent use the Clipper encryption system, knowing full well that nefarious messages could be deciphered by law-enforcement bodies, especially when equal or better commercial encryption systems are openly available on the market? Answer (by FBI Special Agent James Kallstrom at a press briefing): "Well, there are some dumb criminals. We also hope Clipper will become a de facto standard in the communications and computer industry, so persons engaged in illegal activities will be forced to use it." Don't bet on Clipper becoming a voluntary de facto standard anytime soon. The entire computer, communications, and business community is almost unanimously opposed to Clipper. More than 100 nearly unbreakable commercial encryption standards are widely used today. And there's no reason to switch to Big Brother's code just so the feds can listen in. In public comments solicited by the administration on the Clipper proposal, just one of the 265 responses was favorable; four were neutral, and 260 were vehemently opposed. The White House's official response? "Those comments reflected misunderstanding about the standard." Big Brother knows best. The White House refused to address its Clipper dilemma: The trapdoor code will target only society's illicit communicators, who clearly can evade all wiretaps by using other, openly available unbreakable encryption schemes. Meanwhile, the spooks have no need--or right--to wiretap the remaining law-abiding segments of the citizenry. The feds have already tipped their hand, however. Two years ago, the FBI quietly tried to push a bill through Congress to force all U.S. communications carriers to provide a trapdoor on any encrypted messages being transmitted so they could be decoded by legally sanctioned wiretappers. Key legislators shot down the Orwellian plot soon after it was hatched. The government's new approach has been to back off an tap into the National Information Infrastructure a step at a time, making Clipper a "voluntary" standard for the government only--but the commander-in-chief is leaning on the Pentagon to make Clipper a part of the next-generation Global Defense Message System. We don't know how many Mafia mobsters or enemy agents are lurking in the Pentagon, or if they need to be tapped by Big Brother. Oh, but Clipper will also be able to monitor communications of individuals contacting federal agencies, according to Raymond Kammer, deputy director of the National Institute of Standards of Technology. We're not sure how many kidnappers are contacting the Pentagon these days, or why they might justify a defensewide-deployment, but we are assuming that the criminals have gone to the trouble of establishing the proper Clipper code connection with the DOD in the first place. Clinton's plan to impose Clipper on the Defense Department is stupid. It would replace virtually tamper-proof encryption systems with a questionable, unproven scheme that is much more vulnerable. Current encryption methods set up a unique coding key that changes with each call and disappears immediately after, making it virtually impossible for eavesdroppers to crack the code. Clipper, by contrast, mandates that a fixed set of unalterable keys be kept on hand at all times for all communications systems that could be compromised, despite the fervent assurances that Clipper keys will always be ironclad. That's never been a problem for other encryption systems, whose keys change with every call. If the encryption system ain't broke, don't fix it. A more plausible reason for the adoption of Clipper may be Big Brothers hidden agenda to have Clipper installed at any cost throughout the government--voluntarily, of course--to create a market big enough for the feds to move to the next phase: making Clipper MANDATORY for all U.S. communications, anywhere. Clipper makes sense only if every U.S. encryption user and every piece of encryption hardware--from telephone to computer to interactive home television set to every communications network throughout the land--is forced to accept it. But freedom to use any other coding system nullifies the eavesdroppers. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 10:54:30 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? In-Reply-To: <9406030332.AA04704@media.mit.edu>; from "DJEntox@AOL.COM" at Jun 2, 94 11:32 pm A bunch of us were talking on vrave last week (or this week...it doesn't matter, just remember even a stop clock gives the right time twice a day) and we decided to meet at either 2AM or 3AM ( i think it was 3AM) at Jake's booth (that would be the Melon Dezign booth...) so 3AM at the melon dezign booth.... (unless someone tells ya a different time....hey can't hurt to check anyways...) -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 11:15:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: Re: JOURNEES Shirts @ Synovial In-Reply-To: <199406021426.KAA05783@holmes.umd.edu> from "Colby Newton" at Jun 2, 94 10:24:41 am you said that journees throws killer parties on the west coast... is there an E-mail adress or snail adress or phone # for them? I'm visiting the west coast this summer andIm interested in finding out about possible events. Thanks Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 11:29:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: Re: rave patches?? In-Reply-To: <199406022202.SAA09988@holmes.umd.edu> from "GroovyBass@AOL.COM" at Jun 2, 94 06:02:33 pm theres some stores on South Street in Philly that have good patches. also try your local fabric store...I just got a few patches at a garage sale and I tore some off of shirts from the Salvation Army...hope that helps... Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 11:43:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? In-Reply-To: <199406030332.XAA11980@holmes.umd.edu> from "DJEntox@AOL.COM" at Jun 2, 94 11:32:31 pm I am so excited to meet fellow net ravers. I think the raddison idea is great...Ill be there...I also think that there should be a spot in the civic center a few hours into S4 for all the late arrivers... Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 09:38:24 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Zippies Update (Grand Canyon etc.) This came in from alt.gathering.rainbow. ********************************************************************* From: Marcus L. Endicott Newsgroups: alt.gathering.rainbow Date: 02 Jun 94 06:21 PDT Subject: Re: GRAND CANYON MOOOOVIE Message-ID: <1655800634@cdp> References: <2sg9huINN2db@life.ai.mit.edu> Sender: Notesfile to Usenet Gateway Lines: 180 Date: Tue, 31 May 1994 08:13:52 -0700 From: John Bagby To: nobody@well.sf.ca.us Subject: Zippy Newsletter 2 Z MINUS 9 DAYS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THE MEMETICIANS HANDBOOK May 31, 1994 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ISSUE number -2- of the OFFICIAL ** Zippy Pronoia Tour to America Electronic Newsletter ** ______________________________________________ PRONOIA: The sneaking suspicion that someone is conspiring behind your back to help you, AND YOU THEM! ***** The border between the REAL and the UNREAL is NOT FIXED. It merely marks the last place where rival shamans fought each other to a stalemate. ***** -Robert Anton Wilson To subscribe / submit questions or feedback, please e-mail the editor: cubensis@well.sf.ca.us ______________________________________________ CONTENTS: 1- a note from the editor 2- The Whole Earth Lectronic Link (WELL) feedback 3- some zippy personalities 4- projects 5- more soy sauce needed 6- tour announcements ______________________________________________ 1- a note from the editor--- Dear fellow pronoids-- As one of our rainbow netweavers recently said, life is a resource to discover, not a problem to be solved. A pattern is emerging from deep within the chaos, and when it finally gels into something recognisable, the cultural virus will be on a forever-groove. When I last saw Fraser Clark, he was warbling a melody with Lady Miss Kier of Deee-Lite over the phone: ...people are conspiring to he-e-e-e-elp you...! The net is being woven in increasingly strange and wonderful patterns, and if one of the patterns should suddenly shift while still on the loom, please forgive and realize the nature of chaos is... well, chaotic. On THAT NOTE, there is a Major Change in the tour schedule (Item 5), specifically, the first gig. The NASA event fizzled, no fault of the Zippies! But, we must have ashes from which a phoenix can arise... so a HUGE loving welcome to the crew at Liquid Sky in New York City. The reggae gig we have been invited to will not be a BIG ZIPPY EVENT, but it will be a meeting of the subcultures, and a hell of a good jam, mon. The next newsletter will be written from the steaming bowels of New York City. Look for the butterfly squirming from the core of a rotting apple... -cubensis _________________ 2- The Whole Earth Lectronic Link (WELL) feedback Q: What do you call one zippy walking down the street? A: A virtual riot. On the WELL, in the g house conference, the topic The Zippies has surpassed the 100-person mark. Linked to topics in g wired and fringeware, we have been seeing some *sirius* personalities appear to give their two cents. >From famous cyberpunk science fiction authors, to underground zine editors, to granola-munching rainbow warriors--- the Cyber-tour has been underway for weeks. Thanks to all who are participating in this and other areas of the NET (like alt.rainbow, alt.rave). The tour is much more empowered due to the honest dialogue in these virtual communities. Special thanks to M Normal, the hostess of g house. _________________ 3- some zippy personalities Everybodys got something to hide, cept for me and my monkey. -Lennon/McCartney What the- who are those strange people looking befuddled at the hustle of Times Square? Are they tourists? Are they extra-terrestrials? Are they Illuminati agents? No, theyre pale Brits with colourful clothes and BIG attitudes. Fraser Clark, Igniter of tinder--- From the recesses of your foggy 60s memories, here comes the blond Scotsman sporting a perprtual grin, giving hugs to all. From his mouth flows the rolling language of the Zippy spokesperson extraordinaire-- the promoter of the Megatripolis club in London--- the editor of Encyclopaedia Psychedelica. Angus Dunwoodydun, the Tech Czar--- Fresh from mixing the live feed of MTV Europe in the new all-digital studios in London, its the director and producer of the official zippy documentary film. Look out for his low-key delivery and incredible resourcefulness. Remember to smile for the camera! Catriona Morgan (Kate), the Welsh Weaverwoman--- If she doesnt look right at you during a conversation, thats ok- shes probably writing a verbatim transcript in her little day-planner book. Tour management never looked so zippy. Shes the one negotiating with the Buddhist accountant. ...more to come... _________________ 4- projects We are currently working out details for the following projects: --- a downloadable FTP file for access to daily Zippy announcements (possibly audio and video will be available) --- a series of live teleconferences during the summer-- the Zippy Pronoia Tour in America with festivals in Germany and the UK --- cable television updates on specific programming details to follow as they congeal _________________ 5- more soy sauce needed If youre a wealthy philanthropist (or just hang out with one), give a email, will you? We are trying not to sell out This means we need resources. _________________ 6- tour announcements HERE IS THE LATEST UPDATE ON TOUR INFORMATION! The following are BOOKED events, with additional dates TBA: June 9 Zippy Press Conference, Central Park, NY (3pm) The Meadow (or if closed, Mineral Springs Hill, just north of Sheep Meadow and south of 72nd & Transverse Rd) ----PRESS meet at 2:30 West 72nd Street entrance---- INFO CALL Gabe: (212) 927 6384 June 18 ** TENTATIVE ** Grounation Roots Culture, Prospect Park, Brooklyn (1-8pm) ** FREE ** REGGAE!! bring drums!! --sponsored by Planet Generation and Liquid Sky-- INFO CALL: (718) 965 8999 ... and later that night.... Jungle Warriors Rave, Manhattan Center, NY live drums, DJs, Capoeira dancers --$15.00-- HOTLINE: (212) 226 0657 June 24 TBA, Boulder, Colorado June 25 Gothic Theatre, Denver, Colorado July 1-7 Rainbow GatheRave, Rainbow Gathering, Wyoming (DO NOT COME FOR A RAVE, come to survive in the woods) July 8-10 (nearby) Oregon County Fair, Oregon July 16 San Francisco, California July 23 Santa Cruz, California Aug 21-28 Paradigm Jumping off the Grand Canyon Rave World Unity Festival, South Rim of Grand Canyon ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 16:49:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Rave the bay...home again rose Well, I have access for about ten minutes more, so I'm writing a bit of a review...bear with me it's been over two days since I slept :) [Did I mention the screen is laughing at me? :) ] Anyways...last night.....was....the most amazing...the most breathtaking..and lonnie was...and damian was....well, okay let's start from the begining. Allie [a friend since birth] and I grabbed tickets in the eve and after awhile talked Peter and Rob from the group to meet us downtown...we met them..went to the boat...beautiful bay cruiser [yeah yeah I know what did I expect it was a rave on the bay....bare with me] and the grabbed tickets...we boarded....waved to the people below [this bizarre stream of little kids [shrug] and actually I met someone straight off and was hanging with him..anyways, so the boat was the Bay Lady...three tiers...so we headed to the top...Hugged everybody...let's see how well I do with a list [grin...as she prays she leaves no one out]: Melzie, Peter, Damian, Rob, Bob Baxter [and his friend], Dan, Michelle, Derek, Jen, Mike/Inhuman, Xtofer, Laura, Doug, Susie, Hossam, China, Peekay, Rob C. I think that's about it...hope I didn't leave anyone out [blush] Sorry if I did.... Damian was AMAZING!!!!!!!!!! I was cheering and dancing and sweating and smiling and hadn't felt that good about anything in so long, but, MAN it was so great! Everything perfect, he's SOOOOOO talented..if you've never heard him spin..man, get out of your house ands come to MGP Sat night!!!!! [Hell, if you have I know you won't midd it for the world...who would...we support our net-friends....right guys? right?!] Anyways....everything was beautiful, the stars were BRIGHT!!! and so many and lovely and operfect and the moon was bright andf real and the water was sweet and alive and wonderful. I was having the best time!!!! And of course prooves completely that Lonnie can and does do anything and everything [I just wish more people could have come...more money for the cause...for him and more people to enjoy the wonderful experience he put together.] Although....yes, interesting incedent. We had some asshole jump ship...no one knew him...the odd thing...the truly, well...Unity...a different type...I felt it...we felt it...yaknow how some will stare at accidents to pray for some gore, for some blood....we were looking for life..praying he waws okay...praying to Music they'd find him...we all wanted to help...[thanx Doug though....man...you're the greatest] and I was so damn relieved to see all our net ravers safe..scared me to death when it seemed like neither Derek nor Digital Druid was anywhere to be found...scared me to DEATH!! [this was before we knew ANYTHING about what was goin on] And...as the water was still except for a few waves against the boaty...and a shout once and awhile if someone thought they might have heard something...it was peace...it was dull..all were sneding their energies towards the fear for the health and well-being of this person they felt connected to because he was a raver...and I looked to the left, from doug a bit...and the sun..orage, full...rose above the horizon..and shone on all our worried faces...and the sun wasn't smiling as it rose..the sun was almost somhow trying to help. But it was empty...the morning was empty. He's okay...and in jail. I will never forget that bridge. I could have really gone into details...but the point of the story I think that is important is that some asshoile jumped...it had the most interesting reponse form all of us, he's okay...end of story. We were all put inside the boat...hung together, spoke, hugged, smiled at the reassuarnce that all of our friends were okay...inclkuding the dick we didn't know....[Sorry Susie....I wouldn't have...don't worry.] So thank you all for one of the best experiences of my life. I'll post some of the poetry I wrote while I was there [well, the next time I can access and have it in front of me :) Oh..there was no after-party...[giggle] we kinda..well, I think you can understand. Susie, it AMAZING to see you again...Peek, glad you're alive..Doug, you're just the best!...Derek, you're wonderful!..Lonnie, I envy you and appreciate you more than you could imagine...Peter adn Rob, hope you enjoyed yourselves..... Everyone!!!!! I love you guys!! I miss you guys!! I'm coming to MGP with Allie in case anyone needs hugz and snuggles :) [from me that is... :) ] Keep well, love openly, wish for good, try not to be two-sided as often... Love ya. Melzie aka the One Groooovy Coconut ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 16:57:55 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot... Squishy sez: >and we decided to meet at either 2AM or 3AM ( i think it was 3AM) >at Jake's booth (that would be the Melon Dezign booth...) >so 3AM at the melon dezign booth.... Just as long as disintegrator isn't on then! Otherwise, no problem! I'll be wearing my nametag =) Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:24:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: MGP - phatbeatsinthestreets Hey All!! Just want to all let you know that MGP2 - Phat beats in the streets is still on for tommrow!!! Michael, Susie, Ben, and all of us are working special hard to make it nice for all so please come if ya can. the confirmed dj line-up at present is: dieselboy, inhuman, derek tiffany, method 1, and possibly one more dj i think y'all like. :) but for information call the info line starting tommrow nite: 202.973.2109 for directions to the site. As always its free!!! peace and hope to c u there! doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu home phone: 202.362.4604 for anyone that needs to contact me! p.s. - Rave the Bay was amazing until the jerk scared the fuck out of us jumping off. Im sure ill write something longer in the future, but just want to thank all the ravers there and lonnie for a PHAT time :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:43:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Re: rave patches?? thanks to Mi-T, 1000, and DJ Entox for the replies... Mi-T - do you live in Philly? I'm going to be attending the University of the Arts (corner of Broad and Pine St) starting this fall and if you'll be around I'd be interested in meeting some groovy raverpeoples. kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 17:43:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalya Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalya Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot... In-Reply-To: <199406032058.QAA20411@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 3 Jun 1994 DJEntox@aol.com wrote: > Squishy sez: > >and we decided to meet at either 2AM or 3AM ( i think it was 3AM) > >at Jake's booth (that would be the Melon Dezign booth...) > > > >so 3AM at the melon dezign booth.... > > Just as long as disintegrator isn't on then! Otherwise, no problem! I'll be > wearing my nametag =) > > Peace > DJ Entox > > >just as long as sven and remy aren't on then either... see you there! -jill ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 3 Jun 1994 16:35:36 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Scott Nozawa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Scott Nozawa Subject: rave-o-matic Subject: Time:16:18 OFFICE MEMO rave-o-matic Date:6/3/94 Hi, This is a message coming to you from the west coast. I am on SFRaves and I was told that I might be able to get a copy of rave-o-matic (if this is a listing of raves) from some kindly raver over there. A friend and I are going to be in the DC area and I would like to know the happenings! Info on music stores would be appreciated as well. My name Tamotsu and I spin at some weeklys in San Jose CA. e-mail scott_nozawa@quickmail.apple.com Thanx in advance............ Peace & Strength to all those out East 8*) Tamotsu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 00:38:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: NETherworld *update* the status of NETherworld, circa 3 june 1994: now that the deadline for NETherworld contributions is past, i can sit down and make up a rough "game plan" for this tape (i expect contributions to keep trickling in for the next few days, so nothing is yet carved in stone) first things first: i want to congradulate all who have sent me tapes-pat yourselves on the back, guys! i am in AWE at the quality of some of the material sent in to me...the completed NETherworld tape will have nothing to be ashamed of, trust me. and thankfully, the finished NETherworld will be very well rounded in terms of selection and styles-from ambient soundscapes to happy trance to dark- ness breakbeat. anyway, i want to make a rundown of all the tapes i've gotten so far. if you've sent something that hasn't gotten to me, CONTACT ME IMMEDIATLY. there would be nothing worse than if a killer track was left off the tape because of the postal service's incompetance. present and accounted for: 187, audio tribe, john sweeney, dr. bunsen honeydew, logarithmic sound source, induction, offworld, kingsize, area 51, tintinnabulation, myerson, and myself (of course) i cant stress this enough: if you dont see your name up there, please contact me! i WILL except late entries, but ONLY if you notify me in advance (duh, i forgot one: sean simmen, i got your tape too) ffurther info/instructions to come soon.... -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu if someone can fwd this to midwest/mntn. raves, thanks ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 02:18:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francis L Sibilla Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francis L Sibilla Subject: Re: And the REAL enemy is..... In-Reply-To: <199406020642.CAA04187@holmes.umd.edu> I understand your cops are people too message, BUT . . . When my friends and I were jumped by skinheads the cops were completely not helpful. When the police arrived, the 200lb+ guy on top of me jumped up and ran away. I thought the safest thing to do would be to move towards the police - this was the wrong thing to do because I was then sprayed with pepper gas. Obviously the cop saw me as a threat. Any of you who have met me would agree - I'm not physically threatening. This could be blown off as a "misunderstanding" but after pressing charges and all that, the police never took action on the case even though they had the addresses of the offenders. Even though I repeatedly pestered the police on the case I was always blown off. We were jumped because I was wearing a "queer" t-shirt which the cops could also clearly see. Even though they say they take hate-crimes seriously - they certainly didn't with me. Because of this - and many other more trivial run ins with police, I don't trust them. The only successful form of community protection that I've seen is center city night watch - where gay men, lesbians and others in the community organized patrols to monitor the neighborhoods they live in to protect themselves because the police were either unsupportive or harassing. In other words - the message of this post is - if you want to protect yourself - organize to protect yourself - and NEVER assume the police will do it for you. From the perspective of raving, as Joe said, you are the other - you are not them and therefore you are not the person they feel they should protect. Fran ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 02:25:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dougie Fresh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dougie Fresh Organization: The American University Subject: Info on AU mainframe Just for everyone's information: The AU mainfrmae will be down all tommrow for repairs of some sort. Therefore dcraves, and seraves should not be up and running. If anyone needs to contact me via email send mail to: dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu thanks doug ) ( ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 02:40:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: NETherworld *update* In-Reply-To: <199406040439.AAA23074@holmes.umd.edu> from "LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET" at Jun 4, 94 00:38:57 am Dans la Matrice, LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET a dit: > > present and accounted for: 187, audio tribe, john sweeney, dr. bunsen > honeydew, logarithmic sound source, induction, offworld, kingsize, area 51, > tintinnabulation, myerson, and myself (of course) > > i cant stress this enough: if you dont see your name up there, please contact > me! i WILL except late entries, but ONLY if you notify me in advance I've sent my tape this wednesday by airmail, jason. It has Geoide on it. I have a paragraph i'd like to put on the tape liner too. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 03:51:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: Roland R5 Drum Machine Hello. I'm selling my R5 so I can buy other gear. Please E-mail me if you're interested. It's a good digital midi machine with some 808 and 909 sounds AND you can tweek the sounds (edit them) to make new ones! I'd like to get $300. I'll take the first $300 or best offer. It's in very good shape. Thanks, Nigel P.S. It's in Philly but I can ship it if you're too far. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 07:54:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? In-Reply-To: <199406030332.XAA11980@holmes.umd.edu>; from "DJEntox@AOL.COM" at Jun 2, 94 11:32 pm Hi All Cat here I have just recently moved to NYC and am working for Satellite Productions..... I am just wondering about how many of us are planning on being at Sputnik and what do you net ravers think about this party??? We here at Satellite are wondering what the buzz is and are people psyched for this party??? I hope to see you all there its been a while since ive seen a lot of my net friends and im excited to meet new people .... I will be working most of the night but ill be sure to stop bye the Melon booth at 3am........ **HUGS** See yah at Sputnik IV **HUGS** CAT(Purrrrrrrrr) ;) --------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 15:50:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: base 10 zine Release 8 of BASE 10 is now complete! For those of you who don't know, BASE 10 is a free 'zine put out by the folks at Planet X Records and is devoted to reviews of underground music. If you wanna check it out send a self-adressed (58 cents) stamped envelope to: BASE 10 308 George St. New Brunswick, NJ 08901 This issue includes interviews with Future Sound Of London and Oliver Lieb of (Spicelab), an expanded Acid Jazz, Hip Hop, Funk section and a CD Buyer Guide as well as a slightly improved look and feel - it is certainly 58 cents well spent. This is a serious music 'zine! Strictly for music lovers! 100% Rave nerd and scene report free! Check it out! (BASE 10 would like to give special thanks to: Instinct, Experimental, Astrawerks, and Psychoactive for showing their commitment to the underground!) ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 16:47:46 -0400 Reply-To: danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Zippies Update (Grand Canyon etc.) In-Reply-To: <199406031638.MAA17204@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 3 Jun 1994, Laura La Gassa wrote: > The net is being woven in increasingly strange and wonderful patterns, and > if one of the patterns should suddenly shift while still on the loom, > please > forgive and realize the nature of chaos is... well, chaotic. Hey man, they stole our PR! Geez, what is with these Rainbow kids? They came in, got the Wired tip, and suddenly became a cultural icon of some sort. But wait a second, step back, weren't we netactive way in advance? Didn't we colonize the net with communities that have gotten people to raves stateside for years? I guess it is in their spiel and definately SF friendly chatter, cause I can't see how a promoter group from the way outside managed to suddenly get so big. They definately managed to coopt Zippy thing (does that word really exist in England?) pretty nicely. And SF does love to coopt things rave related. But they do have some interesting events coming up, and hey, wait a second, 2 days before we borrow the park they are going to be in that space. Gonna be weird doing the NE-Raves picnic, pre-Sputnik party and knowing that the mysterious 'they' had been there. Something is just very odd here, but I guess they are just doing their thing. Okay, maybe I am just a jealous professional. I have to admit it, I did want to do a NetRaver article for Wired a while back (rejection slip city, baby). But I guess that's just a start. I really want to see more people getting involved in their scenes, locally and net. Now with this Zippy thing I see them getting involved in someone elses trip, the whole England colonization thing. Now it is also bouncing back from the west coast, the SF colonization of the Rave culture, and that is what the popular media is going to represent it as. I think that's kinda sad, the strict house sound out of SF ('Hey, I went to his house party last night. And I went to a rave and they had great progressive house. And you know who was headlining, it was (Markie Mark/Jeno/Garth/Tomas). Then last night I went to a club and they were playing slow and groovy house.') is boring. NEW MUSIC! Yes, when I hit that party and their are 2 DJs I know and 4 I don't and they all have different styles (Tribal, House, Hardcorn, Breakbeat, Trance in all the hard, soft, progressive and old skool varieties) that's when I am blasted. It's worse than when all you could hear was Hardcore, and NY was reigning supreme. At least they didn't export their promoters, just the DJs and Music (barring the NASA/bands excursion). The promoters always came from the local scene, and reflected local sensibilities and a community support. The music always travels, but the promoter has to have a community base or else it isn't promotion, just exploitation. The money will come in to one group, then they will leave and you won't see another party in that area from them. It's self preservation for a scene, it's money out and out and out. Or maybe I just babble. Forward to this to anyone who cares. Dan ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 19:05:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neur0mancer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neur0mancer Subject: Re: Cheap clothes on a candy box! In-Reply-To: <199406010358.XAA22218@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 31 May 1994 DJEntox@AOL.COM wrote: > Hey all, > Since we have all the chat about clothes, I thought I'd mention a neat-o > offer I saw on the back of a Jujyfruits box.. You can get a Jujyfruits > t-shirt (I think it's yellow, like the box) for 2 upc's and 7.50.!! ...Well if that wasn't enough, Mr. Bubble T-Shirts are available from that company for like the same price... And Whats a bath w/o Mr. Bubble anyway? ---->Neur0maNCER ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 19:13:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalya Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalya Subject: pc e i figured that someone out there might be interested in this event (provided they don't know already): from june 28-30 @ the jacob javits center in manhattan, new york, the 12th annual pc expo will occur. the event is free! over 800 exhibits will be on display. some of these groups represented are; adobe systems, aldus, apple computer, ast research, at&t, borland, compaq, dell, digital equipment, epson, hayes, hewlett-packard, ibm, intel, lotus, microsoft, motorola, panasonic, samsung, sharp, software publishing, sony, symantec, texas instruments, toshiba, wordperfect, and zenith data systems. new products will be on display, such as printers, scanners, mobile products, graphics cards, etc, etc... for more information on pc expo registration call (800)-829-3976 or (201)-346-1400. --jill ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 23:00:08 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Sputnik Net-meet 3am at Jakes sounds good, see many of you there! peace, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 4 Jun 1994 23:23:02 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: Ensoniq Mirage Sampler I'm also selling an Ensoniq Mirage sampler....good beginner's sampler...I haven't even learned to use it. I really don't need it. I'll dump it for $350! Mail me! Nigel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 00:06:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: pc e In-Reply-To: <199406042314.TAA25793@holmes.umd.edu> Natalya writes: > i figured that someone out there might be interested in this event > (provided they don't know already): > > from june 28-30 @ the jacob javits center in manhattan, new york, the > 12th annual pc expo will occur. the event is free! over 800 exhibits will > be on display. Any other netravers going to it? I love pc expo.. get lots of free goodies :) - DanN /~~~\ |~~~~\ |~~||~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | o | | o || ||__ __| | DanN = moddan@vlad.bowker.com | \ / /~~~\ | / | | | | | t23@cyberspace.com | / \ | O || \ | | | | | Transmission 23 - FTZ - edrone | | O | \___/ | O || | | | |____________________________________| \___/ C O L L|____/E|__|C |__|T I V E \*\ \*\ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 02:01:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot/HOM?... Hey all, First up, I'm rilly psyched about seeing everyone @ Sputnik. I hope to be wearing a SKREEM t-shirt (I just got a silkscreening screen of The Skreem's logo, so all I need is ink and It'll be done) and of course some nametage that sez 'DJ Entox-Skreem" etc.. Second.. where's the HOM? Is Melzie still doing it? I just haven't seen one in a while, so I was curious.. oh well. Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 12:38:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: sk8brding i was just curious if anyone who skates is going to bring their board to sputnik's afterparty. i've been contemplating bringing mine, even though i've never skated a park before and am not that good at it...i hear the park is decent. --jill FYI if you are traveling to sputnik by way of 87 (NYState Thruway): frequently, police lie in wait at the side of the road... although, more so during the day than at night. i have received a speeding ticket while travelling this stretch of asphalt-mind you it was a little ways north (near exit 21) from the civic center exit, but... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 21:42:48 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Subject: sputnik - bus from boston The Primary line tells me there is definitely a bus from Boston to Poughkeepsie and to call the Vibe Tribe voicemail for more info.. unfortunately, they always seem to be busy.. Anyone have any more info about the Boston -> Sputnik bus? Are Primary on the net. Thanks, ian ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:01:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: pc e In-Reply-To: <9406050515.AA26845@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Dan Nicholson" at Jun 5, 94 12:06 am I'm really thinking of going! I'm looking into a new computer as well as my dad, so the two of us might go! Is there any price info? NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 22:03:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: sk8brding In-Reply-To: <9406051638.AA25072@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "insomniack" at Jun 5, 94 12:38 pm I would love to bring my board, but for one it's at school, since I couldn't get it home, and I have no money to buy a new one!!! Not to mention I haven't skated in over 5 or 6 years!!!! I might show up with one though!!! who knows!! R U going to the picnic in Central Park? NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 23:18:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , e boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: e boy Subject: Rave the Bay well, first off, we shouldn't have put a life preserver on the flier :) othen then that, i'd have to say that that event was the most spiritual and fun party that we have ever thrown, and even that i have ever been to! i finally felt like i was at a uw party rather then throwing one. seeing the sun rise slowly moving by behind the dj's with a little black light thrown in was amazing... everybody who spun did great, i was happy with the sound, the lighting could have been better, and the crew was reasonably cool about all of our "habits". my most notables were dieseltoy, wink, moses (waltzing to miles davis)..., well, shit, i can think of me enjoying a part of everyone's set. the only thing that sucks is that everytime the party gets talked about it always sounds like "rave the bay was great, some guy jumped off the boat." you know though, all it was was some guy in the water! he obviously could swim, and the water isn't cold enough in the bay to be life threatening that quickly. somebody actually was pissed that the music was stopped (under the orders of the captain), i was wondering if that feeling was shared by anyone else? i think we pretty much needed to stop the music for a few minutes, it was serious until we found out the guy was still alive. actually the moment we all saw him, that's when his life was in real danger! :) i liked melzie's comments about how even that crazy incident had a unique unifying punctuating effect on the whole event. we will all never forget what we did last thursday, and the good news.... is that the ship is completely cool about it, and has said that we can do it again any time we're ready! i'm going to talk to them tommorrow and find out what dates they have available. look for saturday july 23 to be the night we rave the bay again! (this time with quite a few more of our friends i'm sure) also this week should come some news on TOO WILD , oh and i almost forgot... lots of love and thanks to everyone who came to rave the bay and made it so fun, and we can't express enough our gratitude to everyone who helped out in making the party not so much of a financial loss for us. that moment was so intense, it was like we were all a group of friends at somebody's house pitching in for a pizza or something. ( all right, so it sounds a little silly) we just really had a unique experience (trip) together, and it brought out such a great degree of unity, i hope that that is what sticks in our minds about rave the bay, and i can't wait to share that feeling again this summer (without the cash problems or the swimming) :) hey share some thoughts on how to prevent another bather: we were thinking of some possibilities: 1- post a sign upon boarding about the charges and fines for jumping off the boat 2- making the back porches of decks 1 and 2 off limits to "loitering" 3- put some type of netting across those two back porches 4- have someone responsible follow the cruise in a boat (for example, sun's father has a boat) and be ready to assist in case of an emergency i think 1 and 4 are good choices, 2 and 3 are based on a theory that jumping from the back 2 botton decks is MUCH more likely then from the top one, three stories above the water any other ideas? talk to you soon.... lonnie and jason and all the other people floating here in the ultraworld ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 23:28:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: pc e In-Reply-To: <199406060301.XAA02448@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 5 Jun 1994, NEd_Snappleboy wrote: Is there any price info? >> unfortunately the only price that i know off hand is for a high resolution 36-bit color flatbed scanner that's selling for under $3500 from the mircroteck lab inc. guys. ummm... i wonder if you can call someone in the registration dept and get the phone numbers of whom to speak with about price info.. >>some of the companies displaying stuff are: complink ltd., cybex corp., e ware, magic solutions inc., maxtor corp., okidata corp., stb systems inc., and twinhead corp...the registration dept number is 800.829.3976. sorry i couldn't be of more help. --jill ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 5 Jun 1994 23:56:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David A Gallant Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David A Gallant Subject: Events calendar? > > > I was told that there was an events caladar of sort's available for raves > and parties in the north-east area from this address. is there any way that > i may subscribe to this above mentioned, or woudl you happen to have any info > where i can get information concerning rave's in the ne.? > > thanks for your time... > > > -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 01:41:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: sk8brding waitaminute, the sputnik afterparty is in a skatepark? hmm...i dont have a board, but i would LOVE to pull my old freestyle bike out of the garage and ride some ramps....does anyone know if this would be possible? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + + + "we are the music makers, and WE are the dreamers of the dream...." + + + + jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu + + + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 02:11:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent boy Subject: Re: sputnik - bus from boston In-Reply-To: <199406060142.VAA01928@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 5 Jun 1994, Ian wrote: > Anyone have any more info about the Boston -> Sputnik bus? Are > Primary on the net. i don't think they're on the net, but, usually, at least one of them is at one of the boston techno/house club nights. you could go and ask them. chris .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOo o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. oOOo. ----------------------------- `.; / ~. OO: ......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' email: squishy@world.std.com we think we're people ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow , ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple _\\;_\\//_________ fingerforPGPpubkey ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 08:42:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , reinhard@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tom Reinhardt Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc. Subject: Re: [NigelR611%AOL.COM@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU: Ensoniq Mirage Sampler], Ensoniq Mirage Sampler In-Reply-To: <9406052058.AA27328@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> Sounds too good to pass up. Do you have the reference manual that came with it? If you do, respond and I'll send you a check for $350.00. Thanks, TomR (703) 284-4708 - work. (703) 998-8979 - home. Mailing address: 2705 South Walter Reed Drive Unit B Arlington, VA 22206 PS:> You might let me know the mode and cost of shipping as well. Assuming UPS or something like that, we should add that onto the sales price... . ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:10:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: sk8brding In-Reply-To: <199406060541.BAA03753@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 6 Jun 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU wrote: > waitaminute, the sputnik afterparty is in a skatepark? hmm...i dont have a > board, but i would LOVE to pull my old freestyle bike out of the garage and > ride some ramps....does anyone know if this would be possible? > >> well, since it is a local call for me to contact the skatepark i'll ask what their policy is. k? smiles- jill ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:20:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot Il be there too---no matter whos spinning!! *anxious to meet net ravers* I have a rainbow on my backpack----pleeze look for me!!!!! Cori Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:22:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: ROM Software 10:00 PM FRIDAY, JUNE 17 -- 3 PM SATURDAY, JUNE 18 D R U M James Christian - K-5 - Dave Trance - Luis Omar - Chris Hall - Luny tunz Plus: Tribal Percussion, Drum Circles, Body Painting, Body Piercing, Food, Story Telling Circle, Brain Machines, Smart Bar $10 w/invite - $12 w/out - Discount w/LIRR ticket *Free shuttle from Westhampton train station* (shows a map with a drum where Suffolk County Airport is) Bauhauz: 526 424 0432 TWR: 718 390 8923 X-Man: 516 273 6713 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ FRIDAY, JUNE 10 S U B C U L T U R E "the first trip in a series of ambient - trance voyages" terre thaemlitz - reese - brian walters reade - gon - dietrich visuals by Eno One Aphex Twin, Instict & Astralwerks Giveaways 212 388 8219 212 629 2061 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 11:23:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: SPUTNIK IV DJ LINE UP SPUTNIK IV FLIGHT PLAN MAIN HALL: 10:00 Mgee 11:00 Scott Richmond 12:00 Frankie Bones 1:00 Derrick Carter 2:00 Disintegrator 2:20 Abraxas 3:20 Luke Slater 4:30 DJ EFX & Digit 6:00 Remy Unger 7:00 Keoki 2ND ROOM: 10:00 Entity 11:00 Mr. Kleen 12:00 Scott Henry 1:30 DJ Duke 4:30 Wink 6:00 Aquaviva 7:30 Tiga For More Info: (212) 420-0717 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:47:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: Re: sk8brding In-Reply-To: <199406051638.MAA29080@holmes.umd.edu> from "insomniack" at Jun 5, 94 12:38:32 pm my friend is brining his and probably wont stop using it all nite... Cori Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 12:59:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: picnic b4 S4 is there a designated meeting spot in central park for netravers????what time is everyone/anyone catching a train to Sputnik??? Cori Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 15:53:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Re: Rave the Bay In-Reply-To: (null) Hi there...this is the chinagrrrl I have never mailed to you before, but I thought since I am not crammed up to *here* with submissions, assignments and school work, I would let you know that I think you are doing a phantastic job promoting the rave scene. It was a pleasure to finally meet you, even though it was just a *hi.* I never really knew who you were untill then...visually that is. Just in case you don't know, I was the photographer grrrl with Danarchy Philpot. Dan was doing his thing with URB, but for future reference, I have contacts with Alternative Press, Wired, Axcess, and SPIN, and maybe Rolling Stone in the near future. Can't promise anything to be printed, but the guys at SPIN and AP love me and the others I think I am beginging to grow on too. So if you need any help or assistance eiter doing promotions in the Ohio area, or with publicity, I would gladly lend my services as a photographer in order to help with what you are doing. Actually RTB was my first rave in a long thyme under *no* alterations in consciousness and I had a phantastic thyme...kudos and thank you... good luck with everything and feel free to call or contact me if I might be able to help...with whatever...i'm a grate snake catcher too. :) Just ask MikeBee or Hossam! :) China ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 16:23:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Sorry for making that message public...my school just switched to pine from elm and I realised that the *reply* to command is different...oops...well I guess that any of you out there in *NE-RAVES* land need a photographer for anything, feel free to give me a call and we can see what we can do...:) proving that PINE is not idiotproof, china-idiot ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 17:32:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: THE REAL SPUTNIK IV FLIGHT PLAN Main Hall 10:00 Mgee 11:00 Scott Richmond 12:00 Frankie Bones 1:00 Derrick Carter 2:00 Disintegrator 2:20 Abraxas 3:20 Luke Slater 4:30 DJ EFX & Digit 6:00 Remy Unger 7:00 Sven Van Hess 8:00 Keoki 2nd Room 10:00 Entity 12:00 Mr.Kleen 1:30 Scott Henry 3:00 DJ Duke 4:30 Wink 6:00 Aquaviva 7:30 Tiga MORE TO FOLLOW....... PS: THE CORRECT # TO CALL IS 212-465-3299 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 17:44:19 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: picnic b4 S4 In-Reply-To: <199406061659.MAA08183@holmes.umd.edu>; from "CORI B IRWIN" at Jun 06, 94 12:59 (noon) hiya, well traditionally we have met at a spot under some trees at the part of Central Park known as Strawberry Fields. I guess anytime after 12pm would be cool for people to meet. i know i'm probably going to try to get there early so i can i) beat the traffic and find a $#@%#@$%@ parking spot in Manhattan ii) get some shut-eye or something. i had a thought after reading about the S4 meet-spot. I will bring a large visible poster-board type thing and we can all make an NE-raves sign, like a few of us did before Red in Boston. it'll give us something to do during the picnic and we can stick it up at S4 so people will know where we are chilling at. anyway, i hope to see many of you there this weekend. peace and warm weather, - FiSH ps. as for the train, i don't know - i will probably drive up, so if anyone needs a ride and is a good co-pilot, feel free to contact me. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 18:45:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: THE REAL SPUTNIK . . . Not 2 sound silly, but wasn't the list that I posted (except for the phone #) absolutely identical 2 the one that was just posted??? Oh yeah, I left off Sven Van Hess at 7:00, Keoki is at 8:00 (or so they say ;) Of course, who knows who is going 2 finally end up playing when by the time the event occurs :) It's on this flyer I got at Groove -- lists biographies for all the DJ's & Visual Artists (Terminal Eye-Dee, I-Strain, Melon Design) I have extras if anyone wants one :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 19:51:47 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Upcomming Rave Idea I just got word that Millineum Productions of Pittsburgh is thinking of throwing an outdoor party at a local ski resort this summer. The resort is Seven Springs and it has a wide open area and they were really cool about the whole idea (they have huge polka-fests with 2,000 people). This event would take place in July and would be about $15. All the DJ's would be local or regional ones however. There would be no huge names like Scott Henry or Wink, however there would be a big sound system and great lighting/lasers. My question for you is, how many of you would come? Would it make any difference if there was a net-raver discount of a couple bucks? Also, if there are any DJ's who would be interested in spinning this event and didn't really want much other than transportation let me know. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:44:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: Sputnik IV Tickets What up This is a message from Satellite productions. Someone started a rumor that we've sold more tickets than the space holds. In fact very few presale tickets have sold and we are encouraging people to buy tickets now so that the door will go faster (there is a presale line and a buying ticket at the door line) - Just letting you know there are plenty of tickets either way. Spread the word. See you this weekend - we'll be a little too busy to make the picnic, but we will try to be around when you meet up at Melon's booth. Have Fun. Peace Scott Richmond Mr Kleen ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 20:15:49 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dougie Fresh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dougie Fresh Organization: The American University Subject: MGP 2 *whew* Hey everybody, Well trying to contribute to the underground scene here in DC, and off a little assistnace and dare from susie, michael, susie, ben, and i and a lot of nice people along the way helped pull off MGP2 this past Saturday/Sunday. Basically we decided to go ahead with the event last tuesday. flyers were made up and handed out at Rave the Bay and Spiritual Movement and Music Now (not sure about Modern Music). Derek Tiffany, Method1, Michael(Inhuman), and then later on Dieselboy and Nigel Richards said they would be willing to also. The set-up for the event went rather smoothly except for the evening before when ben and i got lost on the way to pick up the generator and the store closed on us. Luckly, susie called around and we found another generator to use, a 3 kw and not the 5 kw we originally planned for. The sound system was two 600 watt full-range speakers and a 400 watt per channel to power the system. but during this point when we didn't have the generator there was also condusion on the info line. By mistake susie posted that the location would be revealed at 9pm, when it was supposed to be after midnight. (believe me when i changed the message about the different times, there were several angry callers:( ) So anyways things were going smoothly and upon checking our original site just before dusk we decided to go ahead with it. It was located in a Maryland State Park, in Montgomery County just off a road. After heading back into DC and getting set-up, susie and i met up with dan and jason and headed out to the site. We made it there just after 1:30 and before the first cars started to arrive. Immediately upon getting there and driving to the site of our choice we realized something: the grass was really high and really thick. Not exactly prime to dance upon. (this is what lack of sleep can do to your reasoning:P) Jason, unselfeshly used his car to try andsmush out a flat dancing area which was moderately successful. More cars continued to come. Some parked along the road and others went out from the road to the sight about 250 feet away. One cool kid got other people to gather fire wood and start a bonfire and also get people to carry a log over for a place to sit upon. On the other hand other people were staying upon the road afraid to walk the distance from the road to the site, because of lyme disease, etc. However after the VW was arrived and there was a fairly sizable crowd there taking the system down, there was a fairly clear path through the grass to the site and back to the road (however you needed a flashlight to see your way) (hmm, i see why the have full moon raves :) Setting up the sound took a little longer then i would've hoped but we finally got everything set up and running And Derek laid down the first track at exactly 2:47 AM. After the music had started even more people continued to come and susie and the parking attendents did a good job of getting everyone to park along the side of the road, or some took their cars through the field and parked along the dance area. So with everything finally going smooth at the dance area i walked back to the road to relieve Dan and Fran who were at that point taking the responsibility of parking cars. From the distance of the road the sight looked really cool in the distance: a TAZ (time autonomous zome as susie would describe it) with a bonfire and trance playing through the night sky. It was really very beautiful and a sight i will never forget. Susie and MikeBee came to relieve me as i went to change the tape of Derek's set. It looked fairly cool with a nice little dance area, and a cool chill-out area around the fire. Soon after i changed the tape however there was a buzz through the crowd. Apparently a cop car had come by and driven off. I ran back to the road and susie said the cop had asked what was up and then drove off. The collective sigh of relief was short lived when we saw a car coming back down the road. Both susie and i waved at it and then realized it was the cop car. He passed and circled around again and made it back and asked more about what was going on. Here susie took control and went off telling how we were a bunch of friends who were really into techno music and dancing together with no alcohol or anything, and we'd love if they'd come and dance with us. The cop said he had called the park police and they would have to make the decision. About three park police cars came. The lower-rank cops seemed totally cool about the idea, and only were worried we were sacrificing goats.;) However the officer in charge asked if we had a permit to be there, which of course we did not have. He then said he has no desire to ticket everyone there and asked if we could tear the system down in a half-hour. We complied with this and i got back to the sight and spread the word that we had to break down and to call the info line in an hour for the back-up sight. We didn't get to damian however who kept spinning until the cop came over and taped his shoulder and told him to shut it down and announced to the crowd everything was over. So eventually the sound and everything was broken down and after getting our picture taken with one of the cop's ;) we headed back to DC and through some confusion about fifteen of us, basically net ravers, made it to the back-up sight at RFK. It was a very nice location, and i was told more then once that should've been the first location, but i really liked the other sight better for two reason. (1) RFK will always be there and is a nice back-up sight if ever needed. (2) The other sight was more out in the wilderness and just looked so damn cool, and would've been amazing if we had been able to stay there until day break *sigh* At RFK things went cool. Nigel Spun a really cool set. Most people were chillin' and amiring his dj'ing skills. I especially loved the part when he started to mess with the equilizer and kept changing the sound of the music :) Damian (diesel) then played a really phat set of breaks, that no matter what he said i thought was amazing and jason finished the day very nicely with his set. :) It ended up the event in a very cool way. So all in all the event went off and had it's ups and down. they include: --- there could've been a little bit better organization and it especially got frentic after the genreator was almost lost. Also the info line and the fact that it took a good while for the grass to be trampled down for a dance area at the first site (VERY important to remember:) --- The TAZ :) i'll never forget it --- The Cops. --- Not being able to hear dj inhuman spin :( --- All the people who came out and made the event fun. I would definately love to help out with some more renegade raves this summer in the area. A lot of people said they could also help out with sound equipment and looking for sights or know of good sights to throw future events. I think that taking these dance parties out into the open night sky really increaes the beauty of it all, and made it definatly a more spiritual event for me :) plur ;) _______________ There is a curious paradox thay no one can explain. Who understands the reaping of the grain? Who understands why Spring is born out of Winter's laboring pain? Or why we all must die a bit before we grow again. El Gallo - "The Fantasticks" _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ ___________________ ___ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______feel the music soft and mellow__ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ ____________________________ doug )( dz5401a@american.edu - dj d'phresh rockin da tables dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 21:49:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? 3 AM at melon designs? Um... why fou7r hours of not being with each other? *bonk* Mr. Shiple :) I think it's safe to say that Melon designs has become the general ne raves meeting spot- at all the raves I've been to lately, that's where we've all met... so I'm sure we can meet up with each other at any point in the night just by going to Melon Designz :) sun(flower) BIG P.S.:::: Who is going to the Picnic? Taylor's getting a tad bit poopy because he doesn't think anyone's going :( we'd like a show of hands (raise em high, children!) of those who are planning on going so email him (t808@phantom.com) or me (a1tchan@lucy.wellesley.edu) by friday night, d'accord? merci :) Love and kisses from the big red sunburnt fish (and the tan sun(flower)) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:01:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? In-Reply-To: <199406070144.VAA14116@holmes.umd.edu> i am very much interested in attending the picnic...is this a pot-luck thing? it would be kinda nice if everyone brought munchies or something :) is it definitely @12pm in strawberry fields? i suggest that if you are driving to manhattan you park your car in a garage...there's no sense leaving it available for someone. i am looking foward to meeting everybody! smiles- jill ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:12:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: to jill and the rest about picnic particulars... Yes for strawberry fields and yes for pot luck and yes for noon But Taylor will post more later- either tonight or tomorrow... or sometime this week :) we're off to watch Slackers :) tina and taylor p.s. so, how many so far have caught the raver's disease? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:20:48 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Ride to NYC pikNIK I was wondering if anyone from the Boston are could possibly, kindly offer me a ride to NYC this weekend for the picNIK. I'll help pay for gas, tolls, and buy you food on the way if neccessary. Thanks a lot. JimmY |-|/\t (condom/boston) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:10:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Cessation of music at Rave the Bay I thought that was a little bit of a bummer that the music was killed, but an absolute necessity from a safety standpoint. Could you picture the ship's crew racing about, while trying to dodge dancers? However, I do think that once the person was safely aboard the 'Bay Lady', the music should have been turned up again. To me, it would have been a great way to say "Ain't nothin' gonna stop this party!" I thought the best quote of the night came from Rob Campanell, which I'll paraphrase here: "They're playing the sound of running water up on the ambient deck, and we're in the middle of a bay." (or something to that effect). As a PS to Lonnie, it was a really fun party, and if you want, I'll distribute some fliers up here on Long Island. Virtually yours, Bob "likes Baltimore crab" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 00:02:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406062352.TAA12243@holmes.umd.edu> knowing the pittsburgh scene, i would only go if there were at least one or two well known dj's on the bill. i'm being honest. :) mike :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 00:24:11 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: Roland R5 Drum Machine FOR SALE: ROLAND R5 DRUM MACHINE 808 and 909 sounds and editing ability to make all kinds of whacky drum sounds. Midi with 4 single outputs. Nothing wrong...just saving up for more equipment. Please mail if interested. Will take first and best offers. Looking for $300. Thanks, C-YA! Nigel. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 00:56:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SOLID_MATTER RECORDS Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: SOLID_MATTER RECORDS Subject: Re: [NigelR611%AOL.COM@CUVMB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU: Ensoniq Mirage Sampler], Ensoniq Mirage Sampler hmmmm....stray reply....hehehehe...wasn't me who posted the sampler forsale.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 00:41:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MR DAVID G WHITEMAN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MR DAVID G WHITEMAN Subject: I'd like to subscribe! I found this mailing list in the Internet Directory. I'd like to subscribe. What do I do? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 6 Jun 1994 22:41:20 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: MGP 2 *whew* In-Reply-To: <199406070127.VAA13874@holmes.umd.edu> hey a taz is a temporary autonmous zone.... (not time) you all should read the esaay...susie(: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 03:03:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gil Yaker Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gil Yaker Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406062352.TAA12243@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > [The resort] is Seven Springs and it has a wide open area and they were > really cool Where exactly is Seven Springs, to me, at least that makes a big difference. > My question for you is, how many of you would come? Would it make any > difference if there was a net-raver discount of a couple bucks? > Depending on #1, yes. A net raver discount would be fantastic, but what exactly does that say? Just cause we're on the net we're special and deserve a break? I'm not complaining about a discount, i'm just wondering why. but still, most importantly where exactly is it. -Gil ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:16:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: picnic I am driving down w/ 3 other ppl and as far as I know theres 2 or 3 other carloads of ppl from Albany who wouldnt miss it...I suggest that if at all possible for ppl headed south to NYC that they park in Pokeepsie or another town on the metronorth route and take a train in (theyre only about 8 bucks) this will avoid any parking hassles and rediculous bridge tolls...just a suggestion... see you there Cori Mi-T ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:18:40 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406070418.AAA15274@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Michel Battaglia wrote: > knowing the pittsburgh scene, i would only go if there were at least one > or two well known dj's on the bill. i'm being honest. :) > mike > > :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- > ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// > Gee mike, thanks for the support. Do you consider dieselBoy a well known dj? Joe ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:30:07 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Gil Yaker wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > > > [The resort] is Seven Springs and it has a wide open area and they were > > really cool > > Where exactly is Seven Springs, to me, at least that makes a big difference. It's about an hour south of Pittsburgh in Somerset County. It's a very popular ski resort. Figure if you're comming from Maryland it's 1 hour closer to you than comming all the way to Pittsburgh. The other site they're looking at is a fairgrounds (which wants twice as much as Seven Springs and is not as openly supportive). The fairgrounds is only 30 mins outside Pittsburgh but it's in a different direction. > > My question for you is, how many of you would come? Would it make any > > difference if there was a net-raver discount of a couple bucks? > > > Depending on #1, yes. A net raver discount would be fantastic, but what > exactly does that say? Just cause we're on the net we're special and > deserve a break? I'm not complaining about a discount, i'm just > wondering why. Nope, j-squared has offered net discounts in the past and it seemed to work out really well. The reason I am looking at this discount is because you're all such a great group of people and if you're helping with ideas on the party (such as you are now) you should all recieve some benefit for your help, that's all. It's not meant to be a bad thing. > but still, most importantly where exactly is it. If you need more information (like directions) send me email. > -Gil > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:33:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Ride to Picnic etc... Hi everyone. I'm in New Haven CT. The Picnic and stuff are not. Could anyone help get me there? I'll help pay for all the stuff that one helps to pay for when one is getting driven somewhere...:) -dave ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:40:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise :) hmm, got back from NYC, and i had a blast! here's what happened... all of saturday, i received 'signs' and 'signals' NOT to go to the rave i was planning to go to (Galaxy 2000). very hard to explain, but something was telling me to stay away from there for a funny reason.... like a precognition of some sort. i still wanted to go SOMEWHERE, so i went to the Limelight. yeah, i know what you're thinking, but read on... at about11:30pm, the floor was filling, and the groove was building. a few tribal records prompted everyone to fill the floors... by 1am, the floors were a frenzy of dancers. some club "Personalities" were there too... at 1:45 am, i ran into the O.G. (Original Gabber) ROB GEE!!!! he is a very coooool person, and struck me as friendly. he gave me a rob gee sticker and we chatted for a minute. at around 2:30 am, Rob Gee took over, and hardcore pounded forthe from the limelight's system... if you were not there... you missed a hell of a night! people were going completely nuts to the gabber and hardcore!!! i never imagined the "cool as skat" house-music chill-out clubbers to stomp their feet to gabber! everyone in sight was a raging entity wildly interacting with the crowd and the music. nobody got hurt, and the vibe was unusually neighbourly and friendly for ANY club, rather the limelight! at the end ofthe night, the club had to close, and the whole nightclub screamed and shouted for rob gee. after a minute of "lights-up", the lights dimmed and Rob Gee spun another tune, the everything shut down, and people went home it amazed me that so amny people will say "Well, i don't like hardcore", and DJs wilhear this and reply "OK, i guess I shouldn't play it." that night proved all wrong. the same people who danced to 124bpm house went wild to 248bpm gabber... no joke! the EXACT same people (i kept track) who were there from the beginning dancing to house music were screaming (literally) to Rob Gee to keep spinning FASTER music. this experience has given me a new respect for the Peter Gaiten club. i dunno, but i'd say it was definitely worth the cash to get in. also, there will be some battles coming up!!! all NYC gabberheads take note! the notice is posted in my next posting to ne-raves. *bam*bam*bam*bam*... Hardcore has just begun! *bam*bam*bam*bam*... 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:46:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: Add this to the R.O.M.....DJ battle i picked up this flyer, and i'm writing exactly what it says on it.... FUCK HOUSE THIS IS TECKNO BRUTAL NYC HARDCORE GABBER ASYLUM OPENING: MONDAY JUNE 6 BATTLE OF THE DJ'S You decide who's harder than Hell! Lenny Dee (Industrial Strenght, NYC) vs. Abraxas (Subtopia, Amsterdam) Hardcore Headbanging! MC: Rob G NO BREAKBEAT, NO TRANCE, NO CHILL OUT EVERY MONDAY, STARTING JUNE 6 at THE BANK, corner of Houston & Ave. A 10pm - 4 am $10 to get in or $5 with invite BRUTAL hotline: 212.431.6718 hmm, this looks like a cool thing for the OGs in NYC. somebody tell me how it is :) rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:50:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea hmm, since the NEW, official "rave-mobile" is on the road, i might just go to this party... wouldn't mind spinning either. who knows? keep us informed and updated :) rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:51:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: Re: Roland R5 Drum Machine will you take trades??? just cash??? just wonderig :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 10:07:28 +0400 Reply-To: Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Upcomming Rave Idea Ok, I have recieved an overwhelming postive response on this. Just a few quick notes at where we go from here. 1) Many DJ's mailed me saying they'd spin. This is EXCELLENT and I hope everyone that wants to can. First I have to find how long we can get the place for the next day. I am sure we can get it from like 9pm-9am but if we get as many DJ's as have mailed me we might want to go longer (or create 30 min slots, something I personally don't like). Once we know how long we have we can then figure out how many DJ's we can have. 2) While I am not PART of Millineum productions at this point, Joel Bevaqua (who will soon be joining ne-raves once he's up to speed on how to use his email.) has asked for my assistance in helping him get this up and running. He also put out an open call for DJ's on the Millineum Infoline (which is why I asked if anyone would want to spin). 3) The ski resort as I said before was very open and positive about the idea and are used to 1000's of people being present for various folk festivals. 4) In the next week or so I will be contacting the DJ's that mailed me (about 10!) to let them know what the situation is. (I have to find out from Joel). 5) We are shooting for the second weekend in July. 6) For this event tickets will be availible in most major East Coast cities (like Synovial Fluid) though this may complicate the net-raver discount. 7) The net-raver discount is my idea and I have yet to run it by Joel. The reason for this discount is to show our appreciation for the people who have/will help(ed) with ideas to make this a truely successful party. 8) If you have anymore ideas on how to make this a great party feel free to send them my way. Anything I get will be fowarded to Joel. 9) Anyone who wants to be a vendor can email me or jjbst29@pitt.edu (Joel's address). 10) Suggestions on a name for the event are VERY MUCH WELCOME!! Thanks for your support. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 09:40:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Ride to Picnic etc... In-Reply-To: <9406071337.AA21498@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "David Sklar" at Jun 7, 94 9:33 am > > Hi everyone. > I'm in New Haven CT. > The Picnic and stuff are not. > Could anyone help get me there? > I'll help pay for all the stuff that one helps to pay for when one > is getting driven somewhere...:) > > -dave No problem! I'm in Westport! I can drive up and get you Friday night if you want. I have ppl from SC/NC/LI/and CT staying with me here, then we're all heading to the picnic! My phone number is (203)-454-2980 Or you could just take the train to Westport, and I can get you there. Either way!......We're not sure how we're going to get there yet......we have three or four cars availiable, we just have to figure out what we want to do!...but you definitely have transport with us! NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 11:21:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sharline Chiang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sharline Chiang Subject: Internet Users Wanted! Ravers: If you're an active Internet user, which I know most of you are, I need your help. I'm a Columbia journalism graduate student working on my master's thesis titled:"The Linking of a Generation: Youth and the Internet." I'm interesting in finding out how the Internet affects your life, how often you use it, why you use it and what impact you think it may have on our generation. Specifically I'd like to show how diverse our community is, in interests, ethnicity, class and gender, while sharing some common ground. Lately, there's been a lot of news stories written by people outside our generation on the subject. Here's a chance to talk among ourselves about issues that mainstream media may be overlooking. I think together we can create a story that's accurate and interesting. If you're interested in helping, reply to this message, sc218@columbia.edu., In the body of the message you may type: survey - to receive an on-line survey interview - to schedule a live interview 2 cents - to add commentary or suggestions I plan to submit my final product, due August 30th, for publication in anything from New York Times, to SPIN or Wired. ;} Thanks in advance for your interest. Sharline Chiang ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 13:35:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise :) In-Reply-To: <199406071341.JAA17453@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Obin C. Robinson" at Jun 7, 94 9:40 am I have to say that it looks like the Limelight was fun for once you r lucky But.... You missed one of the greatest hard events I have ever been to... Galaxy 2000 regardless of all the problems with the space change and it veing on Staten Island was a moving experience.... The vibe was incredible ..... The music was PHAT.... Especially Jimmy Crash and Adam X all of the DJ'S were great and fun was had by everyone.... I have never seen so many people smiling and hugging each other at a hardcore trance event .... Next time check out an event these people throw it was well worth the trouble and the after hours was equally as fun on the beach .... Heather Heart spun and I still wanted to dance..... Thanks to everyone who made my weekend one to remember No matter what anyone says Galaxy 2000 was a great success. CAT (purrrrrr) ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 14:29:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise :) In-Reply-To: <199406071341.JAA17453@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Obin C. Robinson wrote: > hmm, > got back from NYC, and i had a blast! > here's what happened... > > i still wanted to go SOMEWHERE, so i went to the Limelight. > > > at around 2:30 am, Rob Gee took over, and hardcore pounded forthe from the > limelight's system... > > if you were not there... you missed a hell of a night! > > > this experience has given me a new respect for the Peter Gaiten club. i > dunno, but i'd say it was definitely worth the cash to get in. > > *bam*bam*bam*bam*... > Hardcore has just begun! > *bam*bam*bam*bam*... > > 1000 > >> i have been praising that club for years....if you want to get into the limelight for cheap you can call :212.807.7850 and ask them about being on a mailing list. i have a card that gets me in for $5 on sundays and tuesdays (tuesdays is SMACK-joe joe and dj reese:) keep me posted about these *bam*bam* events ;) --jill ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 15:16:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: Internet Users Wanted! In-Reply-To: <94Jun7.112149edt.5888-4@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "Sharline Chiang" at Jun 7, 94 11:21 am survey please =) ---- john sweeney jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu binary sound(imprints) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:02:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise... Wow! Rob Gee at Limelight? Kick ass! He is a nice guy, tho.. he's always willing to talk to anyone =) No big attitude.. I wish I lived close to NYC, but oh well.. I wish I could get to BRUTAL.. that souns soo kick ass, but again, the nyc thing gets in the way for the NH boy.. oh well =( I hope to get a hardcore fix at Sputnik with Disintegrator and Abraxas (and hopefully Luke Slater, but he's so unpredictable).. Although, Sputnik 4 _is_ in NY.. huh.. well NYC maybe this summer, hopefully! >*bam*bam*bam*bam*... >Hardcore has just begun! >*bam*bam*bam*bam*... >1000 Up Tempo, Man! Peace DJ Entox > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:08:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Re: Ride to Picnic etc... In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 07 Jun 94 09:40:32 EST." <9406071727.AC06988@minerva.cis.yale.edu> I'll call you tonight, OK? My phone number, incase something goes horrible awry, is 203.777.4300. Whatever is most convenient for you, I can do, as to you coming to get me or me training it out there.. oh yeah, and i just finished my first year here. Who do you know that I might know? -dave ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:09:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: heh heh woops! :) see y'all saturday. -dave ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 16:29:06 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: PICNIC DETAILS .001 okay.. back and sunburnt from florida.. looking excited for the picnic: where: strawberry fields, 72nd st - central park west, NYC when: saturday june 11th - HIGH NOON - dusk bring food and frisbees.. john speakman is bringing his radio boxy thingy... so, no one else needs to cart one along.. one is plenty. i'd like to have some people over at my place after the picnic but space is limited... email me if you're interested in coming over to chill.. make music.. whatever... we can also decide at the picnic who will be coming.. there are plenty of things to do in NYC (record shopping, etc) for those who aren't coming to my place but still want to take the train up to the rave with us all .. which brings me to my next point: i, along with tina and (hopefully) many others (darshan?) will be taking the metro north train up tot he rave from NYC. this eliminates driving and after -rave-way-tired-driving.. and, it will be a lot of fun to have all of us piled into a train car... it's not very expensive... final details and plans will be made at the picnic regarding this. so.. to conclude!... HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE! email me for any other questions regarding anything above.. and let me know if you are interesting in coming over to my place after for a post-picnic chill. thanks much/love >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 18:28:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise :) >so i went to the Limelight. >yeah, i know what you're thinking, but read on... >at 1:45 am, i ran into the O.G. (Original Gabber) ROB GEE!!!! he is a very >coooool person, and struck me as friendly. he gave me a rob gee sticker >and we chatted for a minute. gross. For someone who is "straight," he sure enough tried hard to convince me to sleep with him when he found out I was of the other orientation. When he realized the "oh, I normally don't sleep with men" line wasn't working with me, he tried to impress me with how much coke he does. Even more gross. Later a friend pointed me out this drag queen in platform sneakers, shaved eyebrows, and more makeup than most circus side show freaks and told me that this was Rob's boyfriend for ages. Well anyway, aside from his personal life, his mixing isn't so hot either. Well I guess it depends on how fucked up he is but basically he's another Keoki... mediocre selections & bad mixing (if he bothers to mix) but then again I haven't heard him since last year so for his sake, I hope he's improved by now. >nobody got hurt, and the vibe was unusually neighbourly and friendly for >ANY club, rather the limelight! damn, there must have been a lot of REALLY GOOD E going around to make that bunch friendly. >at the end ofthe night, the club had to close, and the whole nightclub screamed >and shouted for rob gee. maybe he should rename himself DJ Worship. >the same people who danced to 124bpm house went wild to >248bpm gabber... no joke! the EXACT same people (i kept track) who were there >from the beginning dancing to house music were screaming (literally) to Rob >Gee to keep spinning FASTER music. I found that's because the *majority* of the people who go there don't know or care much about the music because they're either too fucked up on heroin or special K or are more concerned about being fabulous. >this experience has given me a new respect for the Peter Gaiten club. respect? He doesn't care about the music or the people, he's just out to make money and would prefer to see a club full of yuppies buying lots of drinks. Peter owns most of the big clubs in New York and I largely blame him for the bad names clubs here have gotten. No respect to Peter. I won't even begin to tell you what an asshole this guy really is. I've had DJ friends who worked there and have been punched in the face by the bouncers just for not shutting down early... promoters & DJs who haven't gotten paid for working, STILL to this day... I even know someone who was a 'hired dealer' for the club who ended up shooting themselves dead because of politics there. For a place that used to be a church, it's sure got a lot of hell in it. >i dunno, but i'd say it was definitely worth the cash to get in. you paid? ha! It's been 8 years and I finally found someone who actually paid to get into the slime!!! Can I get your signature? wake up buddy - open your eyes - don't you sense what's going on there? ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 17:33:06 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [6/7/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 6/07/94 *************** *********************** "Reviews by DJ John Avery" ************************* ******************************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER: The records reviewed in the UPDATE are received at least TWO weeks prior to the actual commercial copies the store can sell. Please be aware of this grace period when ordering. Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I apologize for not distributing an UPDATE during the past two weeks. As of today, the UPDATE will be published sporadically throughout the summer but will again begin its weekly status in September -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On a different note, I'm also selling two pieces of DJ equipment. I want to ask UPDATE subscribers first, before I put them in the Want-Ad Press. One item is a 1200 Watt (600/ch @ 8 ohms) ABA, dual-mono power amp. This is one amazing piece of machinery and is now useless because I sold the 18" subs that went along with it. I am also selling a carpeted DJ coffin that was used ONCE! If you're interested, and you live in the NYC metro area, please email me: Asking prices: Amp: $600 Coffin: $125 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat Records in Union City, NJ. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. Readers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to the store. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TWITCH REMIX SERVICE: (bdavis@netcom.com) "This is A Shout Going Out"--Central Fire (Twitch EP #2) I was very impressed by this superb west coast stomper. I personally like both the A and B sides equally. Each mix starts off with some funky, chugging beats at around 125 BPM and then they start getting funky, grabbing bits and pieces from a few 60's and 70's classics which I had trouble identifying. Midway through each mix, the hardcore freestyle beats kick in and for those who used to program freestyle and still work Frankie Bones' hard freestyle sound, these tracks are for you. Not only do you get the beats, bubbling acidic keyboard lines and atmospheric chants round out each version. Definitely get your hands on a copy of this. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For readers in the Cincinatti, Ohio area in need of a DJ, give DJ Sub-Genius a call at (513) 751-7427. 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If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ================================================================================ = This message is from: John C Avery II = = Rutgers University, Newark, NJ, USA = ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 18:43:19 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea >I just got word that Millineum Productions of Pittsburgh is thinking >of >throwing an outdoor party at a local ski resort this summer. The >resort >is Seven Springs and it has a wide open area and they were really >cool >about the whole idea (they have huge polka-fests with 2,000 >people). >This event would take place in July and would be about $15. All the >DJ's >would be local or regional ones however. There would be no huge >names >like Scott Henry or Wink, however there would be a big sound >system and >great lighting/lasers. > >My question for you is, how many of you would come? Would it >make any >difference if there was a net-raver discount of a couple bucks? that would definitely make a difference. Especially if it's close enough to travel within an hour... Is Seven Springs very close to Pittsburgh? kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:08:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise :) In-Reply-To: <199406072228.SAA23035@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, WILL-E wrote: > >this experience has given me a new respect for the Peter Gaiten club. > > respect? He doesn't care about the music or the people, he's just out to > make money and would prefer to see a club full of yuppies buying lots of > drinks. Peter owns most of the big clubs in New York and I largely blame > him for the bad names clubs here have gotten. No respect to Peter. I > won't even begin to tell you what an asshole this guy really is. Peter Gaiten owns the clubs? Gee, here I was thinking the Mafia owned them and he ran them. But still, it would be kind of fun to experience the place once before it (inevitably) gets busted down. Maybe a CyberTribe invasion of good vibes? (Or, more probably, me playing spectator for a night.) > wake up buddy - open your eyes - don't you sense what's going on there? *sniff* *sniff* MONEY! I knew I felt that sort of slimy crawl on my hands earlier. (Gee, do you think Dan doesn't like clubs?) Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 18:13:37 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: H.A.R.D.C.O.R.E. surprise :) In-Reply-To: <9406072239.AA04713@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "WILL-E" at Jun 7, 94 6:28 pm > > >this experience has given me a new respect for the Peter Gaiten club. > > respect? He doesn't care about the music or the people, he's just out to > make money and would prefer to see a club full of yuppies buying lots of > drinks. Peter owns most of the big clubs in New York and I largely blame > him for the bad names clubs here have gotten. No respect to Peter. I > won't even begin to tell you what an asshole this guy really is. > I agree fully with Will-E. I had a crappy experience there last summer I think. I went because I'm New York retarded! Never again. The girl at the door was about to let me and one friend in, when the rest of my friends started to follow. She grabbed me and said "NO....only you two!" This was due to the fact that it was four guys, and only two of us where "dressed fly". All they want is a great guy to girl ratio so they can sell sex and drinks......if you had fun at the club then that's great, but it's also good to know the politics and other crap that goes along..... My 2 pennies NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:15:26 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Sputnik IV info? can someone find it in their good hearts to send me all available info on SputnikIV and the picnic before that? I admit it, you caught me snoozing! :) kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:15:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: NE Raves Picnic Okay folks, I am heading up for the NE Raves Picnic and Sputnik 4 after-picnic party. ;-) If you need or want a ride up in my car let me know by mail. Even if you have already arranged something with me, please confirm so I can organize the people in the car. I will have badges with me to distribute to those waiting on them. I may also have extra NE Raves PLUR badges so if you want some (but mail me in advance if at all possible so I know how many to make). Dan Ps. I love Allison. :) PPs. The car is leaving DC in the Saturday morn. You can sleep in it if you want. ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:29:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: NE Raves Picnic In-Reply-To: <199406072320.TAA23399@holmes.umd.edu> hey dan. i'm interested in a NE-RAVES PLUR badge. thanks- see you soon! --jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 21:40:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Michel Battaglia wrote: > > > knowing the pittsburgh scene, i would only go if there were at least one > > or two well known dj's on the bill. i'm being honest. :) > > mike > > > > :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- > > ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// > > > Gee mike, thanks for the support. Do you consider dieselBoy a well known dj? > Joe Yes, but i wouldn't go just if damian was on the bill. i a) live with him, and hear is sets all the time...why should i pay however much money to see him at a ski lodge? and b) really don't like jungle as far as dancing and being at a party is concerned. I know the Millenium/TZ dj's and what they spin and that's why i don't go to many(any) events in pittsburgh - i get bored. really bored. the main reason i go to raves is the music. if there is no good music, then i get bored. If you hadn't asked me to MC for you (and damian) at Synovial Fluid the i most probably woulnd't go (except i heard that Who will be djing the afterhours...?) As for supporting my scene, i'll support it when i like it. mikebee It's far easier to just talk to people than use mind control. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 19:15:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: pc e In-Reply-To: <199406060301.XAA02448@holmes.umd.edu> NEd_Snappleboy writes: > I'm really thinking of going! I'm looking into a new computer as well as > my dad, so the two of us might go! Is there any price info? it really isn't so much of a retail show.. it's more of an industry trade show, where companies demo new products and generally try to out-do their competitors. there are some companies selling products there, but usually not many pc makers selling, just displaying (companies like ALR, Compaq, Dell all have booths but it's just demonstration, not retail). still, GO! it's lots of fun. it's like $60 for the non-conference pass (the only part ya need) but it's quite easy to get a complimentary one.. anybody got any?? i usually have extras, but this year they just pre-registered us and sent us our nametags. - Dan /~~~\ |~~~~\ |~~||~~~~~~| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | o | | o || ||__ __| | DanN = moddan@vlad.bowker.com | \ / /~~~\ | / | | | | | t23@cyberspace.com | / \ | O || \ | | | | | Transmission 23 - FTZ - edrone | | O | \___/ | O || | | | |____________________________________| \___/ C O L L|____/E|__|C |__|T I V E \*\ \*\ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 23:06:06 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: PICNIC .002 (ps) coupla picnic notes: >>> in my last post i said it was from noon - dusk... well.. i forgot "dusk" is at 9 pm these days... so.. it'llb e more like from noon - 6pm or so..i'm gonna break around then to go back to my place... >>> in the off-chance that our spot in strawberry fields (exact directions below) is taken...i'm going to have to wander around (in close proximity) to find a new spot.. if you get to the spot, and it's obviously not us there.. just walk about looking and listening... >>> directions from the park entrance (72nd st. / central park west) to the picnic spot: walk in the entrance.. it's a little sidewalk that comes to a circle/fork where the john lennon "imagine" memorial is... take the right hand fork... go down a little hill and as you round the corner there is a big grassy area on your right where our butts will be parked that's all for now! see you there xo >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 22:29:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: pc e In-Reply-To: <9406080228.AA19112@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Dan Nicholson" at Jun 7, 94 7:15 pm I thought I read in the New York Times "Computer Review" that admition for the public was free.....perhaps not....I'll have to re-read it.. NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 7 Jun 1994 23:28:40 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406080151.VAA24883@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Michel Battaglia wrote: > > Yes, but i wouldn't go just if damian was on the bill. i a) live with > him, and hear is sets all the time...why should i pay however much money > to see him at a ski lodge? and b) really > don't like jungle as far as dancing and being at a party is concerned. > I know the Millenium/TZ dj's and what they spin and that's why i don't go > to many(any) events in pittsburgh - i get bored. really bored. the main > reason i go to raves is the music. if there is no good music, then i get > bored. If you hadn't asked me to MC for you (and damian) at Synovial > Fluid the i most probably woulnd't go (except i heard that Who will be > djing the afterhours...?) As for supporting my scene, i'll support it > when i like it. Well perhaps you'll like the house room at Synovial Fluid. And yes it is well rumoured that Who will be at the afterhours for it. Mike I hate to say it but you have lost your hardcore :). BTW: DJ's like the ones you have in mind cost alot of money and if there are no small vibey parties that are supported how can one throw a MEGAparty with all your Big Name DJ's (tm)? And lastly the guys throwing Synovial Fluid are not associated with Millineum/TZ. Neither are most of the DJ's on the bill. In fact the House to Hardcore ratio at this party is about even (something Joel would never do) . In the House room you have Jedi Mindtrip, G-Wiz, Ryde, and Terry Kicks. in the Hardcore room you have X-on, and Deadly Buda (hard gabber type core), dieselBoy, 1.8.7 and Geoff-E (with MC Mikebee, doing breaks :) and lastly Finger (rounding out the night with smooth trance). So all in all you have about an even ratio. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:01:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: PINIC .003 (weather forecast) mr. weatherman said that it's going to be 76-78 degrees, sunny with some clouds this weekend. sounds PERFECT to me! :) >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:26:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: a request from neith for the PGH posse I got a postcard today from Nieth (Love and frogs) she's doing well in Pennsylvania where she shall be this summer... she has a request though... if anyone from the Pittsburgh area or anyone driving throught he Pgh area is going to the picnic, she would like a ride her phone number is 412.283.3856 give her a call! :) we'd all love to see the Frogwoman :) tina sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:28:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: On Tue, 7 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > > Well perhaps you'll like the house room at Synovial Fluid. And yes it is > well rumoured that Who will be at the af terhours for it. Mike I hate to > say it but you have lost your hardcore :). BTW: DJ's like the ones you > have in mind cost alot of money and if there are no small vibey parties > that are supported how can one throw a MEGAparty with all your Big Name > DJ's (tm)? Then someone should get either some a)skills or b) good taste in music let's look at the music: Jedi Mindtrip Terry Kicks: all boring played dj's. i've heard all except g-wiz so i have no opinion there, but as far as terry kicks, his house ain't my house. A good dj with *no* idea about new music. Jedi Mind Trip: heard him spin a few times and certainly was not impressed. didn't he used to spin Buda-style death-core? > to Hardcore ratio at this party is about even (something Joel would never > do) . In the House room you have Jedi Mindtrip, G-Wiz, Ryde, and Terry Kicks. the only dj i'd recommend is ryde, and i don't even think he's that good. > in the Hardcore room you have X-on, and Deadly Buda (hard gabber type > core), dieselBoy, 1.8.7 and Geoff-E (with MC Mikebee, doing breaks :) and > lastly Finger (rounding out the night with smooth trance). So all in all > you have about an even ratio. > Joe No offense to damian, but trance is the only attractive thing here, and i haven't heard finger spin in awhile, so... Whatever about 'you lost your hardcore' whatever about dissing damian - he is my man and if he spins something other thatn straight jungle i'll be happy. whatever about 'supporting your scene'. when i see talent i'll go. and don't give me none of that 'do it yourself, then' shit either. money is tight and i'm not going to a rave that i'm not going to like just to 'support the scene that supports me'..fuck that shit.I have more fun going to Baltimore where their *LOCAL* dj's are *much* better than anything we've had here save damian as far as music is concerned. and that's the truth. Even Vic MOney (remember him) was the dope sht in the day. now we have terry kicks playing a mixture of pop-disco and pop-disco. The house/trance scene in baltimore is kicking *every* city's ass, and *that's* why i'll go to SF if Who spins. he's got a)skills, and b)great taste, and he actually knows how to work a crowd. i'm sick of being lambasted for having an alternative opinion of pittsburgh. i'm not the only one. People have been going to these second-rate events with third-rate dj's and fourth-rate music for years. and only a third of the original scene is left. the other two thirds got sick of it and stopped going, no to mention the many people who wanted to get turned on to raving and were turned completely *off*. How many people do you know that used to be in the scene and aren't anymore? I know alot. I have been in this scene since it's inception and was at its first event ever. I know what the scene used to be like, where it went and where it is. and that's why i choose to go to other places to have fun. mikebee lost his hardcore. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 00:51:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , The Professional Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Professional Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406080438.AAA26626@holmes.umd.edu> my roomie mikebee writes in response to joe (187) : [dj review] > Terry Kicks i agree with mike here. no comment on skills. but his selection has got to be *the worst* in pittsburgh. he even plays 2Unlimited!!! utter bullshit. > whatever about dissing damian - he is my man and if he spins something > other thatn straight jungle i'll be happy. mike tends to like it when i spin something other than hardcore. but what more can be said about an 'acid jazz sellout'? ;) no just kidding...mike and i have different tastes. but if i see that people aren't dancing to my music then i try and work in other stuff i have *and* new stuff and make it dancey. he knows i am not a 100% junglist...i'll take chances. > ...whatever about 'supporting your scene'. when i see talent i'll go... > > ...i'm sick of being lambasted for having an alternative opinion of > pittsburgh. i'm not the only one. People have been going to these > second-rate events with third-rate dj's and fourth-rate music for years. > and only a third of the original scene is left. the other two thirds got > sick of it and stopped going, no to mention the many people who wanted to > get turned on to raving and were turned completely *off*. How many people > do you know that used to be in the scene and aren't anymore? I know alot. > I have been in this scene since it's inception and was at its first event > ever. I know what the scene used to be like, where it went and where it > is. and that's why i choose to go to other places to have fun... i agree with mike. the pittsburgh scene has tried to get jump started *many* times in the past and it just cant make it. i have different theories on this. let me just sum it up briefly... - the scene got kickin' with the deadly buda / controlled wierdness parties back in early 92 (late 91) and those small parties i was throwing in people's houses. - Gatorave at metropol helped things along. - Powerave definitely did a lot for pittsburgh. color fliers....good djs...variety...it was dope! - after deadly buda basically pissed off most of his close friends and hardcore ravers that were really into the scene and who helped him out....things went downhill. in an attempt to regain friends and lost business (from his record store), joel began training his friends to dj (and support his store by buying records). then he started throwing these small events with these neophythe djs. *this* is what fucked things up imo. people paying good $$ to hear bad djs spin bad tunes. it sucked. and it was mostly hardcore. i can go on and on about how they weren't properly put together. sure he tried...but he managed to kill the scene. by refusing to let other people in to dj besides his dj clique, he managed to scare off a lot of people. - metropol and zoom attempted to bring people back...but due to all sorts of things (most notably shithead club owners) they failed to 'rebuild' the scene. and people lost interest. - the millenium parties have been decent (from what i hear), but they centered on hardcore. this no longer works. and the local djs that get booked for every event dont have enough experience in working crowds. - i am not knocking locals djs...some have gotten to be rather good. but back in the day when things mattered......they couldn't cut it. - now it is kinda like 'who can do what?'. i hope that everyone in this city can drop the egos and work together to make something. but then again i don't know. i personally feel as if i am 'blacklisted' here because i spin out of town a bit and the local djs and people who throw things don't like me because of it. it is a damn shame. i guess we can see what synovial brings. sorry if this rambles..i am tired and it is late. damian / dieselBoy ..... .... ... . damian+@pitt.edu darknessKru inna year 4000 - i bring the trophy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:14:09 -0400 Reply-To: Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406080438.AAA26626@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Michel Battaglia wrote: [great post deleted] ..Seriously, whatever happened to the validity of opinions? Im sick of hearing "support your scene" as an excuse from people lately - there are plenty of parties around that aren't worthy of support. And isn't it support YOUR scene - not THE scene, or Joes scene. Stick with your feelings. You asked a worthy question Joe and Mike gave you a worthy answer, he was by no means deserving of your questioning. ~flu'id too snobby and never had his hardcore to lose it in the first place ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 01:19:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MR DAVID G WHITEMAN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MR DAVID G WHITEMAN Subject: New raver I sure hope that earlier message, my attempt to subscribe, didn't get distributed. If so, go ahead, flame me a little. I deserve it. *hangs head in shame* But all that aside, I'd like to introduce myself. Hi! I'm Thumper, and I've been on the fringe of the rave scene for about 2 years now, never quite getting where I wanted to be. Now all of a sudden I've stumbled upon the door to the entire scene. And it's got a good signal to noise ratio! I'm new to mailing lists but otherwise net.experienced. Before I screw up too many more times or ask too many dumb questions, is there an FTP archive of this mailing list, or do I have to use the listserver to look back? For instance, I'd like to read the original idea message posted by Joe LeSesne about planning a rave. Anyway, here I am. Don't be gentle, I can take it. Thanks, -Thumper srde19c@prodigy.com thumper@mordor.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:20:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: oops, add to ROM!! oops, i copied the wrong flyer yesterday for the ROM.... here's eth one i meantto print... DEEPER thursdays at tunnel with DJ Lil' Louie Vega June 9 1994 a night on the edge of forever strictly rhythm recording artist LOGIC in the bassment Scotto Presents OOMPAHLOOMPAHLOUNGE post rave, tribal & breakbeat with your host Peter DJ Trace from the UK with Jason Jinx and ON-E in the funk room Black Gypsy Presents DJ Belinda Becker Doors by Willie Ninja + Chris Reilley The Tunnel doors open at 10pm-5 220 12th ave at 27st NYC $10 with invite $15 without for info or lists call: UN: 212.642.8466 Scotto: 212.330.8233 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:40:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: buggin' out :) hmm, gimmicks are cool, gimmicks can be interesting... here's one that floored me when i noticed it... last weekend, when i came back from NYC, i looked at the records i purchased. one of themis the Drop Bass Network Phase Two record produced by Astrocat. the vinyl is quasi-whitelabel, and is printed on translucent blue vinyl. the music selection is ACIEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!! warped, distorted, and tinged with major psychosis-on-wax... so, what's the gimmick? IN the record is a small member of the ant species, it looks like this little guy was smushed inbetween the layers of the record when it was being pressed. i am pleased to say that this is the cooolest gimmick i've ever seen on vinyl. imagine, a record that is buggin' out, whether or not you are :) rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 09:48:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Obin C. Robinson" Subject: vinyl favour hmm, will some kind soul that lives in NYCplease help me??? last weekend i purchased the third release from 12-guage records. it is an excellant comglomeration of ass-kicking gabber. the vinyl was flawed when i took it out of the cellophane, and the store says that i can return it when i come back down to NYC. the onlyproblem is that the vinyl may be sold out by then. and i would like to get it before it goes to the universe. if anyone would be willing to help me on this one, here's what i need you to do: i'll mail a money order down to cover the cost of the record, with afew extra bucks so that youcan pick up a record of your own. after you purchase the vinyl, mail it up to me, and keep the one that you purchased wiht the extra cash. i am laying my faitha and trust in somebody, and i hope that some kind soul will be willing to help me. the option is that i will send you one of my personal records from my collection, and a CD or two, and the csh for the vinyl. thanks 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:29:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Peter A. Cohen" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Peter A. Cohen" Subject: Boston area radio? I know WZBC (90.3) has some DJ's spin on certain nights. I'm wondering if anyone out there has compiled a list of stations that spin some sort of techno mix? If you know specifically when ZBC broadcasts those folks, lemme know. Thanks! -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Peter A. Cohen | flargh@tiac.net | fax: (617) 662-1825 | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Free your mind and your ass will follow." - George Clinton | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:33:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: No joy for Sputnik IV For Lil' Ol' Me ( spew!!!! ) Hey Gang, Looks like I'm going to have to pike out on the Sputnik IV rave & piknik. I really wanted to come too but I have shit loads of work to do and am heading for SF for a week's holiday later this month. Me & my wonderous deadlines... I guess there'll be other events where we can all gather and I can meet / catch up with ya again... I was looking forward to catching up with everyone and doing some shopping in NY - the clothes, the records, the people, the things, the things that are also people - sigh :( Oh, while I'm here, has anyone seen "Trancemaster 7" out on CD anywhere? I saw a review of it in UK-Dance and I'm dying to get it - I'm listening to "Trancemaster 6" right now ( gawd it's good :). I'm also trying to find 5000 OHM ( if it exists ) and "Trance Europe Express II" ( it's out ), all on CD. Anyone seen these? Are they out in the US yet? Take Care Grant ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:41:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406080438.AAA26626@holmes.umd.edu> >i'm sick of being lambasted for having an alternative opinion of >pittsburgh. i'm not the only one. People have been going to these >second-rate events with third-rate dj's and fourth-rate music for years. >and only a third of the original scene is left. the other two thirds got >sick of it and stopped going, no to mention the many people who wanted to >get turned on to raving and were turned completely *off*. How many people >do you know that used to be in the scene and aren't anymore? I know alot. >I have been in this scene since it's inception and was at its first event >ever. I know what the scene used to be like, where it went and where it >is. and that's why i choose to go to other places to have fun. I totally agree with mike on this one. To me music is the main reason I go to an event..and if it's not happening then I'd rather save the $$$. It's agreed that I have generally lost interest in going to events. I'd would rather see millenium get as cheap a place they could find to lower the price (which is way too high for what they are offering - only Pittsburgh Djs). In my opinion, the only really good DJ worth hearing in Pittsburgh, is damian hands down. Personally, I'm not too thrilled about the millenium line-up because of the music they play and they don't how to work the crowd. And if they do get damian, which they haven't at times in the past to support their own entourage of Djs, they better give him an hour+. Who cares about a huge lineup if they're not good..I don't see why they can't get three really good DJs for the whole night. Most DJs don't charge by the hour they do by event. IF you guys are looking for a good trance DJ which you should...get Sleepy C in Cleveland. Not only is he affordable..but he's good and he's got the cuts. I really enjoyed his set at cmu's fluid. Promoters here should be thinking about working from the bottom up..as far as costs go. Until somebody here starts using some common sense as far as throwing events..there's not going to be much of a scene here. I'm tired of millenium, somebody with a little more know-how, common sense, and $$$ should step forward...synovial fluid sounds like a step in the right direction but why is Joel/deadly buda headlining? I heard they paid $300 for him to get him to spin at this event...sort of screwy if you ask me. my two cents, brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:44:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Re: No joy for Sputnik IV For Lil' Ol' Me ( spew!!!! ) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 08 Jun 94 10:33:06 EDT." <9406081434.AA25298@minerva.cis.yale.edu> > From: Grant D McHerron > > Oh, while I'm here, has anyone seen "Trancemaster 7" out on CD anywhere? I > saw a review of it in UK-Dance and I'm dying to get it - I'm listening to > "Trancemaster 6" right now ( gawd it's good :). I'm also trying to find > 5000 OHM ( if it exists ) and "Trance Europe Express II" ( it's out ), all > on CD. Anyone seen these? Are they out in the US yet? Trance Europe Express II? Oh wow. This will be great! Good luck with your work, grant! -dave ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 11:36:42 +0400 Reply-To: Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406080514.BAA26820@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Alan Michael Parry wrote: > ..Seriously, whatever happened to the validity of opinions? Im sick of > hearing "support your scene" as an excuse from people lately - there are > plenty of parties around that aren't worthy of support. And isn't it > support YOUR scene - not THE scene, or Joes scene. Stick with your > feelings. You asked a worthy question Joe and Mike gave you a worthy > answer, he was by no means deserving of your questioning. Couldn't resist the opportunity to blast me again Alan :) Since you're not from here and have never been here I don't think you have any room to comment. Its a 'burgh thing. Mike and I are friends and mike IS entitled to his opinion. I was just questioning what good he thinks he can do for the scene by doing nothing than downing it. I mean his viewpoint is valid but doesn't represent the majority of the people here. Everything damian said was true though. The problems we've had have been the result of ONE guy deciding what HE thought the scene should be and a total NON-support from the club owners. Now we have more than just TZ/Millineum parties. There are more promoters in the scene here who BECAUSE of the state of things GOT INVOLVED to hopefully change them. This is what FUEL and FOOD are trying to do. The fact that damian got a prime spot at Synovial Fluid proves that this isn't the same old scene as a year ago. As I see it there are two types of people in the rave scene. Those than can and do - people who feel obligated to give something to the scene. And those that can and don't - those who just want a phat party and could careless. Which Cambells Kid are YOU? > > ~flu'id > too snobby and never had his hardcore to lose it in the first place I hear ya. It ain't "intelligent" enough....;) Joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 11:45:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: No joy for Sputnik IV For Lil' Ol' Me ( spew!!!! ) In-Reply-To: <199406081433.KAA29299@holmes.umd.edu> grant: Trance Europe Express II is out...I saw a copy in the store here in Pittsburgh. It may not be on the west coast yet..my mail order company, earrational, who does business with caroline in LA, hasn't received it yet. He's located in CO. He however said he should be getting them in tommorrow.. brian/LUNATIK Here's a review posted to alt.rave: REVIEW - TRANCE EUROPE EXPRESS 2 track listing..... microglobe trust speedy j the fun equation analogical camillo paul van dyke today irresistible force lotus position positive life pliedean communication salt tank dreams dave angel lifes little pleasures eat static element 15 megalon symbols pressure of speech aphelion secret knowledge afterworld ffwd lucky saddle scanner safety new london school of electronics the frenchman richard h kirk oneski pentatonik real pluto rockefeller the human beings orbit escape escape to mars autocreation justice loop hardfloor reverberate opinion ambush sun sequel to the much listened trance europe express released by the volume label...... trance europe express gave us a great cross section view of the trance scene 2 years ago......and now trance europe express2 provides the same. the result is an album containing a more familiar sound, with less experimentation, and in essence a reflection of todays trance scene, which in my opinion has settled and is more defined for/by thoses who like to pidgeon hole. the track selection is as good a quality as you almost come to expect.... all the tracks are very well produced and reflect the latest sound manipulation techniques....full of analogue and didgital sound sources, analogue filter sweeps, your standard roland acid sounds and virtually general midi free. the tracks themselves range from ambient to your full blown progressive and are all of the up most quality....tracks which produced good initial impressions include ffwd, new london school of electronocs, richard kirk and pentatonik....but i've only just gotten around to seriously listening to the album. in conclusion a very good compilation.....a must for the old collection and a very useful item for expanding your listening.... PS....this album also comes with a highly informative booklet on the groups and their music....as did trance europe express. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 11:52:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jennifer J Leibhart Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jennifer J Leibhart Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406081442.KAA29386@holmes.umd.edu> I remember when I was City Limits to hear dB spin. Some kid came up to me with a pre-flyer for Synovial Fluid and started babbling about how he hoped it would go down as a great party. Apparently he was the mind behind it. I wish that kid the best with this one. I'm new to the scene as most of you know. My first experiences with techno consisted of listening to the most wonderful hardcore sounds in a tiny room about Market Street. I didn't know that the master producing those sounds was non-other than Damian spinning. WOW! Incredible way back in late '92. I've heard Terry Kicks spin, I was unimpressed. I've heard joel, he's not bad. I base my judgements on what inspires me to dance and crowd responce. I haven't seen either of them really get a crowd going. I agree with mikebee about skipping parties in Pittsburgh. I confess to doing the same. There really isn't any variety in Pittsburgh. You don't need well known dj's that command big bucks, joe. Look around in the ohio area and surrounding states. Most PIttsburgh dj's really aren't well known, perhaps giving other lesser known dj's a chance will revitalize our scene by expanding it. I just think that Pittsburgh is swallowing itself up. It's too closed. The lack of outside life is what is stiffling the scene. I commend all who try and jumpstart it. But it just ain't working. Good luck Joe and milennium.... I hope that future events go off well. But just like most of the dj's that have to pay their dues...ie. bad timeslots and not getting paid. Pittsburgh is going to have to prove itself before you can count on huge crowds flocking to it. :) Sorry for the tangents and rambling, but I hardly ever put my two cents in. With ya guys...even if i'm not there! :) Jenn ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:01:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: mixing ??? Heya gang. This is Matt from Philly and I'm back on the net for the summer... YIPPEE! So I gotta little question for those in the know..... I finally am gonna buy me soem of those cool turntables. I think that I am gonna get em from a kid on campus that I sorta know. The thing is, his tables are in good condition, but aren't the best kind from the start(Lineartech 1700) Has anyone ever heard of these? Are they ok for a beginning boy like me? We What I thought about doing is buying them but also getting a pretty good mixer. Does that combo sound reasonable? I've been thinking about one with EQ for both lines. I looked in J&R Music World and here's what I found... gemini 2000---$200 but then there's all those funky things like sound fx, etc. Are these like flanger, etc or just cheesy bleeps n bloops that I'll never use? Also, any advice about headphones? Is one really much more useful that another? Sorry so many questions, but this is sorta my only resource at this point... Any replies would come in handy [RESPOND DIRECTLY to munterma@haverford.edu Thanks bundles, see ya, love, matt ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 12:15:30 +0400 Reply-To: Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406081442.KAA29386@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Brian O. Bozarth wrote: > > I totally agree with mike on this one. To me music is the main reason I > go to an event..and if it's not happening then I'd rather save the $$$. > It's agreed that I have generally lost interest in going to events. I'd > would rather see millenium get as cheap a place they could find to lower > the price (which is way too high for what they are offering - only > Pittsburgh Djs). I assume you mean the event at Seven Springs. As far as an affordable space.... Though Millineum hasn't done this. Food has. Warm Milk was a phat party with a low price in an affordible space. It was the same night as A Rave Called Scott. Everyone that went had a great time and there was a real vibe there. I was impressed. Hopefully this will continue but I think it is also agreed that had there been no big Millineum/TZ parties then big names like Adam X, Lenny Dee, Frankie Bones, Heather Heather, Lieven, Richie Hawtin, John Aquaviva, Wink, etc would have never spun here. You have to realize not everyone here has the kinda $$ to run to which ever city these guys spin in on a regular basis. One thing you should know is that Joel = Hardcore so of course he always books lots of hardcore DJ's. I have been trying however to get him to see how few people actually still like hardcore (in the gabber sense). In any event there are other other now willing to throw parties with decent prices and decent line-ups. And I too think damian is the best DJ in Pittsburgh and wished he could spin more here. Many people have also told me the same. If you like him take 2 mins to call all the infolines and tell them to book him. That's the only to "let em know". > In my opinion, the only really good DJ worth hearing > in Pittsburgh, is damian hands down. Personally, I'm not too thrilled > about the millenium line-up because of the music they play and they > don't how to work the crowd. And if they do get damian, which they > haven't at times in the past to support their own entourage of Djs, they > better give him an hour+. I agree. > Who cares about a huge lineup if they're not good..I don't see why they > can't get three really good DJs for the whole night. Most DJs don't > charge by the hour they do by event. And still keep the price "affordable". If you book out of state DJ's expect to have to pay more . I don't think a $10 for a good event with 3 solid DJ's is a bad price. > IF you guys are looking for a good trance DJ which you should...get > Sleepy C in Cleveland. Not only is he affordable..but he's good and > he's got the cuts. I really enjoyed his set at cmu's fluid. Whoa, I'm not "you guys" I am not part of Millineum, Food or Fuel. And I have no $$ to throw my own party. All I am interested in doing is helping the scene by letting the information flow free. No one here writes a zine... > Promoters here should be thinking about working from the bottom up..as > far as costs go. Until somebody here starts using some common sense as > far as throwing events..there's not going to be much of a scene here. Define common sense. > I'm tired of millenium, somebody with a little more know-how, common > sense, and $$$ should step forward...synovial fluid sounds like a step > in the right direction but why is Joel/deadly buda headlining? Where did you hear he was HEADLINING? From the looks of the flyer, no one is headlining. If there was someone who was headlining it would be Ryde. > I heard > they paid $300 for him to get him to spin at this event...sort of screwy > if you ask me. That's not what I heard....I highly doubt that's what he's getting. > my two cents, > brian/lunatik Thanks brian. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:26:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent boy Subject: Re: Boston area radio? In-Reply-To: <199406081426.KAA29227@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Peter A. Cohen wrote: > I know WZBC (90.3) has some DJ's spin on certain nights. I'm wondering if > anyone out there has compiled a list of stations that spin some sort of > techno mix? i could've sworn that i heard an advertisment on wfnx of some sort of "techno" show. although, in the background they played 2unlimited style crap, and knowing fnx i wouldn't hope for anything decent. bruno has a radio show on thursdays from like 10pm to 12? on maybe 90.3 or around there. chris .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOo o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. oOOo. ----------------------------- `.; / ~. OO: ......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' email: squishy@world.std.com we think we're people ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow , ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple _\\;_\\//_________ fingerforPGPpubkey ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:31:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jeanne Finks Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jeanne Finks Subject: j in pitt...6/11 In-Reply-To: <199406081547.LAA29890@holmes.umd.edu> from "Brian O. Bozarth" at Jun 8, 94 11:45:37 am ok boyz- some of you know already...and for those that don't.... i got an internship with LucasArts in San Rafael, CA- 20 min. from SF!! i'll actually be working for ILM :) in the computer graphics dept. of the computer engineering division doing god knows what! at this point, i don't care....i found out officially like a week ago... and finally found a place to live...with a Lucas Employee..she's the technical director of the new star trek movie... anyhow.....my plane stops at Pitt airport for like an hour- 4:20pm #509- US AIR. i was thinking if some of you were free, we could do coffee or something...i understand some of you don't live that far from the airport, and i'd like to see some of you guys! please let me know if this is kewl or not! take care- jeannie the wikked wikked wahini . . / \ / \ /^^^\___/^^^\ / _ _ \ | (0) (0) | ------- .U. ------- \ - / jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu \____W____/....the cyberkitty *meow* ^^^^^^^^^ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 14:31:31 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "kristi =)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "kristi =)" Subject: my post on peace In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 8 Jun 1994 10:29:21 -0500 from Sorry to bother you again. i didn't know if my post on a day for peace made it to the list or not.....could someone let me know if it did...thanks... Also-does anyone have the rave list for the summer (July - Aug)????? Kristi =) KRISTINE GRADUATE STUDENT :) EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGY / GREENVILLE NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 * SUNSETS & MOUNTAIN TOPS-"THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ^^^^^^^^^^ THINGS............................................." "ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND THEY ARE YOURS." (RICHARD BACH) Bitnet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Internet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 15:01:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jeanne Finks Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jeanne Finks Subject: sorry for that! In-Reply-To: <199406081832.OAA02044@holmes.umd.edu> from "Jeanne Finks" at Jun 8, 94 02:31:59 pm hey all- sorry for that public mesg- you'd think i'd get the hang of this by now! hmmmm well if anyone is in the Pitt area, come say hi- i'll be hanging in the airport hahaha. *embarrasingly yours* jeannie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 16:21:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , cte9q@UVA.PCMAIL.VIRGINIA.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: XtoFer ForPres! Subject: Re: sk8brding hey hey.. I have just had to deal with a gazzillion messages...warning: always check your mail... I don't know who replied or what they said about this...but I know personally that skaters and bladers are planning to bring both and did at the first one too just do it...even IF no one else did... peace XtoFer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 16:48:59 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: NEAU night at the Industry in Manchester, NH That's right, we got the Industry back for another night and maybe more. The plan is to lock the doors, treat it like a private party and if cops show up, we chill out while they poke their ugly heads in and don't dance (that's my favorite part) so that they can't shut us down for defying the city ordinance against dancing after 2am. Next week, stay tuned for Witch hunts and stake burnings in MANCHESTER, NH!!! Printouts of this flyer will get you in for just 6 bux! Friday JUNE 10th Manchester, NH (617) 424 - 7183 SOTTO TERRA (603) 641 - 0197 djm@progress.com THE HOUSE THAT N E A U BUILT an afterhours at The Industry 10K WATTS of TRIBALISTIC AUDIO ASSAULT DJ's: * DJM (SOTTO TERRA/NEAU) * Joel (Rhythm of Acid/NEAU) * Spiderman (Spacement) * Howie (Return to the Rhythm) Special guest from LA (first New England performance): * KJ (LA) Time: 1:30am - 8am Cost: $6 with this flyer $8 without Special thanks to all the crews that support the underground and keep it positive: Manchester, Concord, Boston, Worcester, Albany. Also to Leslie, Tammy, Andy and the construction crew. Without you guys there is no underground. Love Joel. DIRECTIONS: 93 North into New Hampshire and up past exit 5, after exit 5 there will be a fork, one for 93N to continue and one for 293 North, Take 293 North (this branches later also into a right exit so watch for it). Follow 293N to exit 4. At end of ramp, take a left. Look for the Industry Night Club. 865 Second Street on your right. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 17:48:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: voice i picked up a village voice today and felt like sharing this with everyone, 3 things: 1)John Cale will be performing for 3 nights in manhattan @ thread waxing space (476 b'dway) wed. june 15- fri. june 17. tix are $20 show is at 8:30pm 2)Loop Guru (ambient house from london) will be performing at the thread waxing space sat. june 18. tix are $12 show is at 8:30pm. both shows tix can be obtained by calling ticketmaster @ 212.307.7171 or @ the box office which opens @4pm day of show. 3)june 11th (the same day as our picnic) there will be a street festival downtown called the Washington Sq North Festival/univ. place-6th ave. --jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 17:56:08 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: ride to NYC This is my second request, but I still haven't found a ride to the Central Park pikNIK. So if anyone is going down from or passsing through the Boston area and has space, please let me know. I promise, I'll worship you forever. Eternal thanks, JimmY ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:00:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: New Music Seminar at NYC Does anyone have any info on the NME? Like when is it? Who's playing? Is it too early to be asking such question? JimM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:01:31 -0400 Reply-To: Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <199406081537.LAA29861@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > than downing it. I mean his viewpoint is valid but doesn't represent the > majority of the people here. Everything damian said was true though. The But it *does* represent the majority of the people here...*everyone* feels the same as i do. Everyone is just as jaded. > problems we've had have been the result of ONE guy deciding what HE thought > the scene should be and a total NON-support from the club owners. Now we > have more than just TZ/Millineum parties. There are more promoters in the > scene here who BECAUSE of the state of things GOT INVOLVED to hopefully > change them. This is what FUEL and FOOD are trying to do. The fact that man, if i had the money i could probably throw one of the best parties you've ever seen. (anyone who wants to fund it - be my guest) > damian got a prime spot at Synovial Fluid proves that this isn't the > same old scene as a year ago. As I see it there are two types of > people in the rave scene. Those than can and do - people who feel > obligated to give something to the scene. And those that can and don't - > those who just want a phat party and could careless. Which Cambells Kid > are YOU? I guess i'm a combination of both, i'd love to give something to the scene if i'd get *something*, *anything* out of it. Right now, i don't think i'm going to. We'll see after fuel. I"ve been tossing the idea of throwing a free party (yes, *FREE*, an idea we've had for over a *year* now - is that selfish?) somewhere near the city in a nice area, with *good* dj's that would like to donate their services. we had a great little free party this weekend in mgp with nigel richards, dieselboy an derek tiffany amonst others, and the music was *great*, not because these were particularly well known dj's, but because they're *good*. They've got some semblance of skills (sometimes ;) ), and they've got *good music*, and it's not even a matter of 'well, not everyone likes the types of music you do' because the only ting not represented was house, and that's because inhuman was sleepy. :) sheesh...i think i've said enough on this. ... mikebee what the world is waiting for ;) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 17:39:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: NEAU at the Industry (UPDATE) An update already!! Einstein from Mental Unity in NYC will be playing. If anyone went to Spice or Phoenix and heard the beautiful, smooth, hard acid trance sets he played, you'll want to come out and check this out. Friday JUNE 10th Manchester, NH (617) 424 - 7183 NEAU AT THE INDUSTRY (603) 641 - 0197 djm@progress.com THE HOUSE THAT N E A U BUILT an afterhours at The Industry 10K WATTS of TRIBALISTIC AUDIO ASSAULT DJ's: * DJM (SOTTO TERRA/NEAU) * Joel (Rhythm of Acid/NEAU) * Spiderman (Spacement) Special guest Djs from LA and NYC: * KJ (LA) * Einstein (Mental Unity) Time: 1:30am - 8am Cost: $6 with this flyer $8 without Special thanks to all the crews that support the underground and keep it positive: Manchester, Concord, Boston, Worcester, Albany. Also to Leslie, Tammy, Andy and the construction crew. Without you guys there is no underground. Love Joel. DIRECTIONS: 93 North into New Hampshire and up past exit 5, after exit 5 there will be a fork, one for 93N to continue and one for 293 North, Take 293 North (this branches later also into a right exit so watch for it). Follow 293N to exit 4. At end of ramp, take a left. Look for the Industry Night Club. 865 Second Street on your right. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:33:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent boy Subject: go to school with this month's wired.. there's a short article by dan sicko (the guy who makes reverb mag for the macintosh) on the "roots of techno" in this month's wired. its an interview with "magic" juan atkins. its cool. read it. chris .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOo o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. oOOo. ----------------------------- `.; / ~. OO: ......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' email: squishy@world.std.com we think we're people ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow , ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple _\\;_\\//_________ fingerforPGPpubkey ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:51:52 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: Upcomming Rave Idea In-Reply-To: <9406071438.AA24363@lassp.cornell.edu>; from "Joe LeSesne" at Jun 7, 94 10:07 am > > Ok, > 10) Suggestions on a name for the event are VERY MUCH WELCOME!! > > > Thanks for your support. > Joe > oh, what the hell.... The obvious one is of course:....AVALANCHE!....groove till the sun comes up or the bass brings the mountain down, whichever comes first! I don't know why, but I'm stuck on the natural phenomenon tip. Other ideas: RIcHteR Sheer Motion Force of Nature - a al p.s. You know you need to get to a rave soon when you start dreaming about them, or is that just one of the effects of X they never tell you about? Ahhh, love... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 18:51:30 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jonathan Kadish Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jonathan Kadish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: CAT <--Cori In-Reply-To: <9406081730.AA07965@academ.hvcc.edu> Hi Cori :) In response to your concern about the security at Sputnik IV I have one important thing to say... It will not be like the security at Fantasy Project..... We have discussed at legnth the issue of security and want everyone to know what they can expect: You are allowed to bring your cameras... We want people to take pictures so they can remember how much fun I hope we all will have. As for food and water.... I cannot promise that these things will not be confiscated at the door ... the Civic Center has their own concession and ing business people see that as competition ....HOWEVER..... There will be an open door policy at Sputnik IV so feel free to bring your munchies and leave them in the car. You will be able to go in and out so you do not have to worry about bringing things like that inside. As for the strictness and or thoroughness of the security searches I dont know but please everyone dont bring in markers and stuff that could get you in trouble (we all know what im talkin about ;) )... As for water and drinks MONA will be doing a smart bar and shes been working on some great new drinks so be sure and drop by her stand and try one out. As for water and sodas the civic center will be selling these things. Im not sure about bringing in empty containers but please give it a try cause there will be adequate sinks in the bathrooms hint hint ;). Ok so if anyone has further questions please feel free to e mail satellite at netmag@aol.com ...... I hope that answers any questions and eases any concerns we want everyone to come and have a great time we are looking forward to meeting you and hope that Sputnik IV will be an event for us all to remember :). peace :), CAT (purrrrrrr) \S ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 19:33:40 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: Your removal from the NE-RAVES list In-Reply-To: <199406081134.HAA27651@holmes.umd.edu>; from "BITNET list server at UMDD" at Jun 8, 94 6:11 am Thanks Dan any luck with finding out who that guy was ???? If so mail me at the mindvox account I wont be using this account any more thanks buddy :) HUGS CAT (purrrrrrrrrr) ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 19:54:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: the sad state of the pittsburgh scene joe and the rest of yinz guyz: let me tell you why pittsburgh sucks... its ridiculous, but it really seems as if the whole damn town is in some sorta vortex...we are poised directly between the mw and ne scenes, and yet it seems that the locals here have *no* idea of what is going on in either of those 2 scenes...i am not syaing that we should pittsburgh (pgh) should emulate them, but jesus, if u dont have a clue, you look to your neighbors for inspiration... the old weeklys at metropol used to be fun, but ok, there were management problems, so it didnt work out... mass zenergy had so much potential, but it died because of a lack of vision...if you are in the business of throwing parties..you should KNOW what is in demand...if your scene is stagnant, look at what is working in other cities....by and large kids are mostly the same (hence the "east coast sound" that joe and other always harp about)...what the hell? joel (deadly buda) would go out of town to spin....why not emulate the lineups of the events he went to? how many fucking *disco* djs are headlined in most of the east coast/mw raves? terry kicks is a fucking staple...the ususal deal with me and terry is ill get on the floor and start dancing to a good house track that he throws down, but he *always* throws a shit track one or 2 songs down the line...what the fuck way is that to build a (house) groove?! its not like a damn jukebox terry, dont just spin this tracks in random order...the ability to program your set is just as important as mixing skills... as fo hardcore (gabber) fine...joels a hardcore dj, hes been doing it for a long time, his heart is in the right place, fine..i cant fault him...but like joe said, he needs to see that that not what *most* people are into now... its not about big name djs joe...its about having a clue as to what it takes to throw a good party...pgh has much potential, it doesnt have to be a country/grunge city...i just wish the ppl who would throw the parties here would go to bmore/dc, or new york, or indy, or chicago....the money they have sunk and *wasted* on flop efforts so far could have been sunk into one *big* introductory party...with "big name djs" (i dont care if u are a big name or not, as long as u spin quality toons and know how to work the vibe, but theres a reason why djs have become "big name"--i can look at dB over the past year and the way hes improved and see why his rising status has been merited)... the inbred pgh cru of djs arent staying ahead of the sounds in their respective fields...i dont mean to come on so strong and diss them at all, but if u want to be a dj..u better know why you are in it...and keep workin...stale djs who play stale cuts and dont know whats up arent gonna draw shit for crowds...im not saying u have to play the flava of the month...just that u have to stay on top of your genre, wether it be breaks, gabber, house, or that hot new trance... as for supporting your scene...joe i have this to say...if yo mama made a shit sandwich and told u to eat it, and your neighbor made a nice thick turkey and swiss (or whatever)...what would your choice be....im gonna go for the turkey and swiss on rye everytime until mama figgers out why im over at bobbys so much... i go to bmore (my absolute *fave* city) because they got their shit down....they know how to throw a party, they know what music grooves us, and they arent all *huge* $25 events...look at their club nites...SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT this past weekend (bobble, kimball collins, who) for $6 before 11 pm....it can be done. FEVER is anotha good example...so no..i wont stick around pgh...the pgh hardcore has had enuff of the medicority in this town with its know-nothing attitude...we are all moving to places where we can find our joy without so much bullshit. as for the people who are sticking around....look, it can be done, you can do it, dont lose hope. (im not being hypocritical...for those who choose to stay here in pgh, theres nothing stopping them from having a blast here at home) joe, please fwd this to joel, colby, and anyone else whose involved in the pgh scene and is online that u know of... its gonna take a few big name djs to get the ravers in pgh to stay home, since were all dssatisfied with our current options...throw *one* big party correctly, and youl make money off it...then use that money to throw a bunch of smaller, cheaper, vibey parties, with maybe *one* guest dj....a guest dj doesnt have to cost alot...sooo much talent here on the net..use it. then u can use those profits and throw *another* big celebratory party...and there ya go, the cycle has basically begun... the thing about pgh is the ppl involved are high on enthusiasm...i only wish them the best in getting equal amounts of wisdom as to whats going on... if there wasnt a good reason for me to move out of pgh, believe me, i would be lending my assistance where/whenever i could...and even if it wasnt wanted id call the infolines (which EVERYONE should do) and let them knwo what was up and what *i* wanted... but, oh well...heres wishing pgh the best of luck in the future...:) i would love nothing more than to come back to pgh in 6mos from out of town because the lineup and vibe they offer is tooo phat to resist... just a frustrated pgh'ers ramblings... peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:08:03 +0400 Reply-To: Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: the sad state of the pittsburgh scene In-Reply-To: <199406082354.TAA05065@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 8 Jun 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > joe and the rest of yinz guyz: > > > let me tell you why pittsburgh sucks... > > its ridiculous, but it really seems as if the whole damn town is in some > sorta vortex...we are poised directly between the mw and ne scenes, and yet > it seems that the locals here have *no* idea of what is going on in either > of those 2 scenes...i am not syaing that we should pittsburgh (pgh) should > emulate them, but jesus, if u dont have a clue, you look to your neighbors > for inspiration... Ah neighboors who are basically biting the ass of San Francisco eh? It ain't gonna happen. > the old weeklys at metropol used to be fun, but ok, there were management > problems, so it didnt work out... > > mass zenergy had so much potential, but it died because of a lack of > vision...if you are in the business of throwing parties..you should KNOW > what is in demand...if your scene is stagnant, look at what is working in > other cities....by and large kids are mostly the same (hence the "east > coast sound" that joe and other always harp about)...what the hell? joel > (deadly buda) would go out of town to spin....why not emulate the lineups > of the events he went to? how many fucking *disco* djs are headlined in > most of the east coast/mw raves? terry kicks is a fucking staple...the > ususal deal with me and terry is ill get on the floor and start dancing to > a good house track that he throws down, but he *always* throws a shit track > one or 2 songs down the line...what the fuck way is that to build a (house) > groove?! its not like a damn jukebox terry, dont just spin this tracks in > random order...the ability to program your set is just as important as > mixing skills... > All good points however Terry runs the record pool for this area so it a matter of politics. And believe it or not there ARE people who go to events just to hear Terry. I agree though. I'll be dancing and then he pulls out some crap old disco track. > as fo hardcore (gabber) fine...joels a hardcore dj, hes been doing it for a > long time, his heart is in the right place, fine..i cant fault him...but > like joe said, he needs to see that that not what *most* people are into > now... He figured that by continuing to spin hardcore while everyone else "mellowed out" that would attract people who were into hardcore to his events. It did work for Algorhythm 3 so I can't fault his logic. > its not about big name djs joe...its about having a clue as to what it > takes to throw a good party...pgh has much potential, it doesnt have to be > a country/grunge city...i just wish the ppl who would throw the parties > here would go to bmore/dc, or new york, or indy, or chicago....the money > they have sunk and *wasted* on flop efforts so far could have been sunk > into one *big* introductory party...with "big name djs" (i dont care if u > are a big name or not, as long as u spin quality toons and know how to work > the vibe, but theres a reason why djs have become "big name"--i can look at > dB over the past year and the way hes improved and see why his rising > status has been merited)... This shows your ignorance of the scene here. It takes alot of time and energy to throw a party of any sort. I don't believe you attended one Pittsburgh rave (I'm not talking about the clubs.) but I'd hardly call 1300 people PowerRave or, 1000 people at Algorhythm 3, the 900-1200 who would go to Metropol back in 92 to hear dB or the 800 people who came to the first party in this city ever, way back in late '91 when alot of places thought rave was a hairspray, a flop. > the inbred pgh cru of djs arent staying ahead of the sounds in their > respective fields...i dont mean to come on so strong and diss them at all, > but if u want to be a dj..u better know why you are in it...and keep > workin...stale djs who play stale cuts and dont know whats up arent gonna > draw shit for crowds...im not saying u have to play the flava of the > month...just that u have to stay on top of your genre, wether it be breaks, > gabber, house, or that hot new trance... Well Buda has, Soji kinda has, Finger has and so has Jedi (even though he livees in Balti. now I still count him cause he spins here alot). Of course I don't expect you to know this since you have yet to show your face at a proper Pittsburgh party. (You could have been at Warm Milk but you had a goot time at A Rave Called Scott, right?) > as for supporting your scene...joe i have this to say...if yo mama made a > shit sandwich and told u to eat it, and your neighbor made a nice thick > turkey and swiss (or whatever)...what would your choice be....im gonna go > for the turkey and swiss on rye everytime until mama figgers out why im > over at bobbys so much... Yet if you never tasted it you wouldn't quite know its shit. > i go to bmore (my absolute *fave* city) because they got their shit > down....they know how to throw a party, they know what music grooves us, > and they arent all *huge* $25 events...look at their club nites...SPIRITUAL > MOVEMENT this past weekend (bobble, kimball collins, who) for $6 before 11 > pm....it can be done. Um just see how long that lasts.... > FEVER is anotha good example...so no..i wont stick around pgh...the pgh > hardcore has had enuff of the medicority in this town with its know-nothing > attitude...we are all moving to places where we can find our joy without so > much bullshit. Good riddens. Cut and run my friend, you aint a traitor cause traitors were at one time loyal. I don't think you were ever really part of the scene here since you moved from Cleveland you attended a total of two or three things at clubs. What if I judged Cleveland by just Metropolis and Smart Bar? > as for the people who are sticking around....look, it can be done, you can > do it, dont lose hope. (im not being hypocritical...for those who choose to > stay here in pgh, theres nothing stopping them from having a blast here at > home) > I'm staying cause I still believe that things can be tightened up and done right. Colby and Rick also do and are asking for suggestions. Joel has called me every other night to find out what people like and don't like about the scene here and thats why the big meeting you may have heard about is due to take place. As I said, most people still believe and you know not everyone can just get up and run off to Baltimore, Toronto or San Francisco. Some of us (alot of us) can't even afford school. > > joe, please fwd this to joel, colby, and anyone else whose involved in the > pgh scene and is online that u know of... I'll do that. > its gonna take a few big name djs to get the ravers in pgh to stay home, > since were all dssatisfied with our current options...throw *one* big party > correctly, and youl make money off it...then use that money to throw a > bunch of smaller, cheaper, vibey parties, with maybe *one* guest dj....a > guest dj doesnt have to cost alot...sooo much talent here on the net..use > it. then u can use those profits and throw *another* big celebratory > party...and there ya go, the cycle has basically begun... Yep this is what I think FUEL may be trying to do. > the thing about pgh is the ppl involved are high on enthusiasm...i only > wish them the best in getting equal amounts of wisdom as to whats going > on... We're proud of Pittsburgh...hehehe corny eh? But things have gone a long way since Markety St. Yep the enthusiasm has to be high if things are as bad as you say. What I want to know is why must we bite off of every other city? I mean Cleveland does that and dfrom what I hear from Kevin/Sonic, they are experiencing the same thing we are up there. > if there wasnt a good reason for me to move out of pgh, believe me, i would > be lending my assistance where/whenever i could...and even if it wasnt > wanted id call the infolines (which EVERYONE should do) and let them knwo > what was up and what *i* wanted... Yes, everyone who is concerned should do this. I've said it time and time again. Call even though you're leaving hossam. There's no way for the promoters to know what we want if no one tells them. (the infolines will be provided at the end of this message) > but, oh well...heres wishing pgh the best of luck in the future...:) i > would love nothing more than to come back to pgh in 6mos from out of town > because the lineup and vibe they offer is tooo phat to resist... Yep but you know what they say, once biten twice shy. I don't expect you back any time soon. :) No matter what the lineup. This is more or less a personal thing for you. > > >just a frustrated pgh'ers ramblings... > Yep and they are welcome hossam. If you didn't care you wouldn't have taken the time to write this. But just think, as bad as you think it is, at least it ain't Boston :) (no offense to the Boston Massive). I still believe. Joe Pittsburgh Infolines Let em have it! Millineum/TZ (412)734-5549 FUEL (412)734-1467 Food Group (412)734-8458 P.S. To all of you people outside of this area I apologize for starting this thread but some of the issues may not be isolated to just Pittsburgh. And without the help and ideas from outsiders we may remain "stagnant" as Hossam put it. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 21:46:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sjakie Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sjakie Subject: Re: Netrave meeting spot @ Sputnik4? In-Reply-To: <199406070144.VAA14116@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 6 Jun 1994, WO AI TAYLOR wrote: > 3 AM at melon designs? > > Um... why fou7r hours of not being with each other? > > *bonk* Mr. Shiple :) > > I think it's safe to say that Melon designs has become the general ne raves > meeting spot- at all the raves I've been to lately, that's where we've all > met... > > so I'm sure we can meet up with each other at any point in the night just > by going to Melon Designz > > :) > > > sun(flower) > > BIG P.S.:::: Who is going to the Picnic? Taylor's getting a tad bit poopy > because he doesn't think anyone's going > > :( > > we'd like a show of hands (raise em high, children!) of those who are > planning on going > > so email him (t808@phantom.com) or me (a1tchan@lucy.wellesley.edu) by > friday night, d'accord? > > merci :) > > > Love and kisses from the big red sunburnt fish (and the tan sun(flower)) > Yup! and you know your stuff will be safe with us! =) Huggies! Jake Melon Dezign MM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 22:04:09 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: New Music Seminar at NYC In-Reply-To: <199406082200.SAA04027@holmes.umd.edu> the only thing i know about the seminar is that we (P-909) will be playing.. not sure with who or when tho.. but.. check us out! peace xo >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:41:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 6/8/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== I've been way behind on my ne-raves mail lately, so if you're a promoter and want your party in the calendar, the only way to ensure that it will get there is to mail me the info directly (inhuman@cmu.edu). I usually try to scan ne-raves and pick out postings with event info, but like I said, I just haven't had time. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ PURPOSE: The Northeast Raves Calendar comes out every Wednesday with information on raves and events as far west as Pittsburgh and as far south as Washington, DC. I will not print info on clubs unless it is either the grand opening of a new club or guest DJ / special event info for an already existing club. I reserve the right to exclude an event from the calendar for any reason. If you would specifically *not* like your event included in the calendar for some reason, send me email telling me so. The calendar is provided as-is at no cost. SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION: Directions for subscribing and unsubscribing are at the end of this file. ADDITIONS / CORRECTIONS: Send all additions and corrections to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with the DC Raves mailing list. KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 06/09/94 - FEVER * (Frankie Bones, - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 1166 06/10/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Mi- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/11/94 - SYNOVIAL FLUID - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 741 - 1573 06/11/94 - SPUTNIK IV - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 06/13/94 - SCOOBY SNACKS @ - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 734 - 8458 06/17/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Ji- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/17/94 - MINIWARP @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 06/18/94 - DEEPER * (Peer) - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 06/18/94 - TERRA-X - Cleveland, OH - (216) 238 - 1451 06/24/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Sc- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/25/94 - NATURAL RHYTHM - Upstate Maryland - (410) 523 - 1882 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 07/29/94 - KHARMA @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, June 9 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 1166 FEVER * fever is turning back the hands of time by playing classic anthems that made the rave scene what it is today. fever will be dark. fever will be smokey. the music will take you back. bring your whistles, bring your candy, bring yourself... FRANKIE BONES - the brooklyn legend, storm rave's original SCOTT HENRY - fever's techno resident, as well as tracks-dc mondays FEELGOOD - reel chill & fever - baltimore SAMEER - house by way of long island, ny WASH - back this summer for the outdoor chill COOL AARON - some chill hop-hop breaks - outside _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 10 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Micro, Dave Trance, Chris Bulla, Who _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 741 - 1573 SYNOVIAL FLUID F U E L Presents (Future Underground Entertainment Limited) SYNOVIAL FLUID DJ's Scheduled: Deadly Buda (Millineum, Pittsburgh) dieselBoy(Recycled,Pittsburgh) Geoff e (Freightyard,Allentown) X-on(FUEL,Pittsburgh) G-Wiz(Baltimore) Terry Kicks(Millennium,Pittsburgh) FiNGER(Food Group,Pittsburgh) Speed Demon(DC) Live PA by 1.8.7. Features: Smart Bar by Nrgetics Fruit Bar 55,000 sq ft of Secured Space 50,000 Watt Sound System Intelligent Lighting by Apple(Baltimore) Time 10:00pm - 10am Tix $8(Advance) $10(Door) Tix available at: Modern Music(410)523-1882/ Planet X(908)249-0304 611 (215)413-9100/Groove(718)714-5232 InfoLine (412)741-1573 Internet Address: dwgv07c@prodigy.com _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK IV netmag@aol.com SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS ******************************* SPUTNIK IV SATURDAY JUNE, 11 ********** DJ LINEUP ************* SVEN VAN HEES & REMY UNGER (Global Cuts/R&S Records Belgium) LUKE SLATER (GPR Recordings/U.K.) DJ EFX AND DJ DIGIT (3RD Floor Prod./San Francisco) DERRICK CARTER (Organico Records/Chicago) DJ DUKE (ffrr Records/NYC) FRANKIE BONES (Groove Records/Brooklyn) KEOKI (Moonshine Music/NYC) JOHN ACQUAVIVA (+8 Records/Detroit/Toronto) WINK (Ovum/Philadelphia) SCOTT HENRY (Fever/Baltimore/D.C.) ABRAXAS (Fierce Ruling Diva/Holland/NYC) TIGA (DNA/Montreal) MR KLEEN (Satellite/NET/NYC) SCOTT RICHMOND (Satellite/NET/NYC) MGEE (Primary Productions/Boston) ENTITY (Ultraworld/Baltimore) <<<<<>>>>> (Industrial Strength Recording Artists) ****************************************************** ***LIGHTING*** APOLLO ***FULL COLOR AND ARGON LAZERS*** LAZER REFLECTIONS *** VISUALS***: FACTORY (Orlando, FL), MELON DEZIGN (Philadelphia, PA), I-STRAIN (Miami, FL), TERMINAL THREE DEE (Knocksville, TN) 2 SEPARATE DANCE FLOORS IN TWO ROOMS ***LOCATION*** MID HUDSON CIVIC CENTER POUGHKEEPSIE,NY (fully airconditioned-Seating provided) ***TICKET LOCATIONS*** Brooklyn: Groove 718-714-5232 / Manhattan.: Subtopia 212-431-6718 / S.I.: E.C.B. 718-448-8207 / Providence: Luna Sea 401-272-luna / Phili: 611 Records 215-413-9100 / Poughkeepsie: U.N. 914-256-0445 / White Plains: Mad Grill 914-683-9378 / D.C.: Music Now 202-638-3272 / Baltimore: Modern Music 410-523-1882 / Boston Beat 617-561-4790 / New Paltz: Jacks Rythms 914-255-1082 / Albany: Music Shack 518-436-4581 / New Brunswick: Planet X 908-249-0304 / L.I.: DJ Records 516-667-1112 / Toronto: X static 416-599-3851 / Montreal: Juan & Juanita 514-847-2292 TICKETS ON SALE THROUGH JUNE 10th---DAY OF EVENT TICKETS AVAILABLE AT DOOR $18 in advance $20 at the door ***PROMOTION AND BUSES*** <> KC and the Sunrise Gang 207-773-6979 / Raving Maniacs 207-942-0287 <> Dannyboy 617-881-3797 / Primary 617-499-7765 / Framingham: Vibe Tribe 508-877-0790 <> Hartford: United Techno 203-646-6381 / Stamford: Atom Warped 203-454-6643 <> Sugarbear 401-454-6078 / Oracle 401-454-6002 <> Satellite 212-465-3299 / Alan Sanctuary and the Primal Posse 212-696-8938 / Trust Invention 212-631-3533 / Brooklyn: Curios George 718-644-9043 / S.I.: FBI 718-390-7107 / Scooter 212-479-7760 / Poughkeepsie:Up North 914-256-0445 / Westchester:Eponymous 914-941-7569 / Albany: Big Dipper 518-465-6381 / Birth 518-43-Birth / L.I.: Island Vibe Nassau: 516-292-0649 / Suffolk: 516-476-1194 / Syracuse: Kilowatts/Chameleon 315-475-8239 <> Mars 908-506-9592 / E-Force 201-295-1925 / Zinzee 908-938-9633 / <> 611 Records 215-413-9100 / T.H.C. 215-586-0939 / Allentown: Geoffe 610-758-9969 / New Cumberland: Click 717-770-0241 / <>Zenith 302-764-9272 <> Ultraworld 410-880-7031 <> D.C.:Rob Rave/Bohemia 202-338-5638 / Teri & Sean 202-466-1661 / Deanna 202-452-7639 <> Transfused 804-768-2000 / Vikki 804-625-2880 <> Cincinnati: Bob-a-dob 513-648-9467 / Cleveland: Funky Alien Gizmo 216-238-1451 / Doodle Bug 614-597-7551 <> Those Meddling Kids 606-281-4193 <> Drop Bass Network 414-777-3998 <> Lexington: Bluegrass 606-281-4193 / Knoxville: Dweeze 615-524-2448 / Nashville: B.A.M. 615-780-3730 <> Atlanta: Chamber of Dreams 404-250-8230 <> Rainbow 919-512-2953 / Barron 910-334-1546 <>The Alternative Record Store 813-977-6383 <> Montreal:DNA 514-854-6446 / Harmony 514-982-9010 / Toronto:X-static (Alan) 416-599-3851 ======================== ASTRALWERKS AFTERHOURS ======================== OSHEEN,DJ REESE,DAVE TRANCE,TROPOSPHERE,DJ SPROUT,RYDE LOCATION:Hudson Valley Skate Park, Newburgh, NY Free to sputnik ticket holders or with afterhours flyer. Breakfast will be served. Directions will be made available in coming weeks. ***FOR ANY OTHER INFO CALL*** SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS (212)465-3299 E-Mail NETMAG@AOL.COM _______________________________________________________________________________ Monday, June 13 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 734 - 8458 SCOOBY SNACKS @ GET SHAGGY AT S C O O B Y S N A C K S The FOOD group in cooperation with ILLUSIONS will unmask a night of mysteriously good fun Monday, June 13th in Latrobe at ILLUSIONS with SCOOBY SNACKS. The party will go on from 9:00pm-2:00am. Five bills at the door. All ages. +SPINNING+ JEDI MINDTRIP (Baltimore) / FiNGER (Food, Pitts.) 9-81 (Latrobe) 24 hr FOOD Infoline: (412) 734-8458 MAPS PASSED OUT AT SYNOVIAL FLYERS ARE OUT AND ABOUT SO OPEN YOUR EYES PEACE, LOVE, UNITY... HANNiBAL @ FOOD _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 17 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Jimmy Crash, Ryde, Sun, Who _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 17 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 MINIWARP @ w/ DJs REMY UNGER AND SVEN VAN HEES (Global Cuts/R&S/Belgium) @ the Freight Yard _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 18 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 DEEPER * Guest DJ: DJ PEER (Birmingham, UK/Obsession/member of D:Ream) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 18 CLEVELAND, OH (216) 238 - 1451 TERRA-X Through the long cold winter Funky Alien Gizmos have been putting togehter an event that should prove to be the HOTTEST night in Cleveland,OH thus far Funky Alien Gizmos present Terra-X "The Arrival" Controlling the Masses Rob Black Dave Trance Micro Cleveland Caffeine-L.I. Caffeine-L.I. Boomer Sun Tony Garcia Omegeman-Definitive Records Ultraworld-Baltimore Chicago Dieselboy Wink Dreamer Pittsburgh Sorted-Philly Cleveland-Funky Alien Doors open at 10pm Lighting by Pandemonium Tickets $10 adv, $12 day of [net people will tickets for $8 if they mail] [me their address by may 13th {i'm leaving} ] [in your mail put your name and email addres] This event will take place in an all new 10,000sq ft venue in downtown cleveland and is fully permitted. Smartbar by: NRGETICS Ticket and bus trip info later next week _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 24 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Scott & Robbie Hardkiss & Dante (this will be a special night to kick off Natural Rhythm you will get a discount on your Natural Rhythm if you attend) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE MARYLAND (410) 523 - 1882 NATURAL RHYTHM Spiritual Movement "Natural Rhythem" June 25-26 in up state Maryland Line-up to include: Scott & Robbie Hardkiss Dante Micro Dave Trance Ryde Who Scott Henry Frankie Bones Jason Jinx Lieven Degeyndt 333 Wink Mgee Feelgood On-E Sun and more to be announced........ swimming pools, tennis, vollyball, basketball, and loads of outdoor fun!! info CALL 410-523-1882 to be held in the Baltimore area. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, July 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 KHARMA @ Enuff with all the lazers, lighting and fashion. What about the music? An event that puts the music first and that won't bust your wallet either. DJ's: JOEY BELTRAM KEOKI SCOTT HENRY geoffe miko 10 p.m. - 6 a.m. $10 entry fee at the door night of the event. For more information/directions CALL 610 - 433 - 0503 _______________________________________________________________________________ NE-RAVES SUBSCRIPTION AND OTHER INFORMATION: To subscribe to the calendar-only list: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu, "sub ne-raves-cal" To subscribe to the discussion list: mail ne-raves-request@umdd.umd.edu, "sub discuss" To unsubscribe from the calendar-only list: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu, "unsub ne-raves-cal" To unsubscribe from the discussion list: mail ne-raves-request@umdd.umd.edu, "unsub discuss" ALL SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEMS, mail the list admin at anarchy@glue.umd.edu. To access "v-rave", a rave-oriented real-time chat system: telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 or telnet techno.stanford.edu 6000 (try only if 7283 does not respond) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "loops of funk over hardcore beats" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 8 Jun 1994 23:58:22 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: PICNIC .004 (taylor not poopy) ok ok ok ok i take it back.. LOTS of people are going to the picnic! and i'm happy and relieved now! thank you for all the response and stuff.. hopefully you've all received the info and updates... no one has emailed me with questoins or problems.. so.. i guess everything is going well. my place is still open afterwards... i do have downstairs neighbors.. so.. excessive noise is bad. :( butl... the music and what not can be fairly loud with no problem.. anyway.. my kitten is chewing on my toe.. so, i better go see you soon! peace xo >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:13:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: PLASTIK JUNE 24 PLASTIK ON JUNE 24TH IN PHILLY! -A celebration of the techno generation. Featuring: Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Denard (NYC) Wink (Philly) Dieselboy (Pitt) Nigel Richards (Philly) $10 from 11pm till 8 am -House chillout upstairs all night long. NO BS, HYPE, ATTITUDE.....STRICTLY AWESOME TECHNO!! INFO LINE (215)631-2666 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:18:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: DELTA 3 The next DELTA event will be on SATURDAY JUNE 18. It will be an outdoor FREEBIE! However, contribtuions are encouraged. DELTA is a 100% charity movement benefiting the homeless so canned food donations will also be appreciated DJ's under the stars through daybreak will be:??????? Check the Devil-Line for info (215)631-2666. Maps and directions will be available Saturday June 18. C-YA then!:) To pick up your Delta necklace, please stop by 611 Records. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:29:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: FW: INTERNET VIRUS ALERT! ( dunno if it's true but... ) OK, so it may not be true and you may have already seen this, but it just came over OzRave so... :) Grant -------- FYI A Virus has been discovered on Internet that is disguised as CD-ROM shareware. Unknown hackers have illegally put the Chinon name on a destructive shareware file and released it on the Internet. This catastrophic virus is named "CD-IT". -- DO NOT DOWNLOAD. IT WILL CORRUPT YOUR HARD DRIVE. The program, allegedly a shareware PC utility that will convert an ordinary CD-ROM drive into a CD-Recordable (CD-R) device, which is technically impossible, instead destroys critical system files on a user's hard drive. The program also immediately crashes the CPU, forces the user to reboot and stays in memory. Widest dissemination is requested. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 00:41:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: DELTA 3 In-Reply-To: <199406090425.AAA07586@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 9 Jun 1994 NigelR611@AOL.COM wrote: > The next DELTA event will be on SATURDAY JUNE 18. > It will be an outdoor FREEBIE! However, contribtuions are encouraged. > DELTA is a 100% charity movement benefiting the homeless so canned food > donations will also be appreciated YAY! You got my body on your dance area. For those who haven't been, GO! I love the vibe at this series of parties. :) Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 10:35:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristine Schachinger Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: Kristine Schachinger From: Kristine Schachinger Hi! I am not sure if this posted, so I apologize if it is a repost.I don't want to anger anyone on the list because I enjoy it, so this will be the last time I send it to here. I am only reposting because I know that this is a topic that effects all of us and I am hoping that there are people on this list who might want to help. We as genxers are always accused of not caring but I know that isn't true and I am hoping that we can help prove that. I hope you can help. Thank you--------------- KRISTINE GRADUATE STUDENT :) EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGY / GREENVILLE NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 * SUNSETS & MOUNTAIN TOPS-"THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ^^^^^^^^^^ THINGS............................................." "ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND THEY ARE YOURS." (RICHARD BACH) Bitnet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Internet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- From: kristi Subject: peace My name is Kristine Schachinger and I am a 26 year old graduate student at East Carolina University. I am writing to you in hopes that I might in some way utilize the services you offer to echo a message of peace that we are circulating throughout the world. We are not affiliated with anyone politically. We are just two college students who are trying to focus a day of the world's attention toward world peace. The idea is to create a day dedicated to peace on earth, in both our personal lives and the world itself. We need as many signatures as we can possibly acquire. The petition is at the bottom of this post. What we will do on June 29th, after the signatures are collected,is walk for 24 hrs. to the Whitehouse. This is where we will present the signatures. At present, we have 65 petitions circulating we hope to have many more signatures before then. If you would like to walk with us please contact me via e-mail. My address is Kristine Schachinger Dept of Sociology Brewster A East Carolina University Greenville, NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 work -------------Peace Initiative---------- "We, the undersigned, would like to petition for one day of world peace, both foreign and domestic. This day would be treated as an international hoilday dedicated to devoting one day of our lives toward peaceful action. We request that all the spiritual and politcal leaders of the world come together an through the international satellite system request that the world take 24 hrs to put down their weapons, put aside their differences and come together as one. We request that each leader take a few moments to call their people to reflect on how we can bring about peace to this troubled world. We ask that the day chosen be one with no political or religious significance. Thank you," Name occupation/organization city / state /country KRISTINE GRADUATE STUDENT :) EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGY / GREENVILLE NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 * SUNSETS & MOUNTAIN TOPS-"THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ^^^^^^^^^^ THINGS............................................." "ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND THEY ARE YOURS." (RICHARD BACH) Bitnet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Internet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:16:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: sputnic and ne-raves picnic Yesterday my car's front windowshield was broken, so now I (and the people who were going with me) to the ne-raves picnic or Sputnick.... Unless some other way to get to NY comes through...I won't be seeing any of yas this weekend :( So that means everyone has to come visit me in Boston. I have kool-aid, ice water, and electricity--what more could you want? Oh yes, and bus trip info to Sputnick would be appreciated.... -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:45:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: boston rides to the best of my knowledge...Primary Prod. in Boston is probably not having a bus from boston to Sputnik. Does anyone know why? I talked to a friend of mine in Boston said that she and a group of 10 ppl want to go but cant unless they sponser a bus...if Primary prod is worried about how many seats they can fill I dont think they will have a prob. If anyone has info on maybe another group sponsoring a bus trip (or a way to persuade primary into changing their minds) let me know... thanks Cori ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 17:47:05 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , hardgroover/ANdroiDS Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: hardgroover/ANdroiDS Subject: PLANET-E issue #2 is out Hello dudes. The issue #2 of the Planet-E rave mag (InterNet version) is out. But as it's 187KB of size, I think it should be a bad thing to send it to you through listservs :( I have u/l it just now, so perhaps, if uyou are quick it's not in the official directory but in the incoming dir. However, if you can ftp (or/and use Gopher), the Planet-E distribution point is techno.stanford.edu:pub/raves/media/zines/planet.e/ If you can't FTP and want it, drop me a mail. I will mail this BIG mail to you ;-) If you have an Amiga or a PC computer, check out the respectiv version for one of these computers (should be out around the 20th June for Amiga and 25th June for the PC version). You can find them on techno.stanford too. Anyway, I hope a load of you will read this issue#2 and I hope to recieve some comments or articles in my mailbox ;-) Thanks !! psyched / Megawatts ====> molari@eig.unige.ch ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 11:54:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: wanna do the bar for RAINDANCE ? Hey gang... I'm mailin this message for Jenn-Bug who has no net access this summer........ Wanna do the bar with good ol' Jenn-Bug at Raindance on July 8th? She prefers someone from the area (North Carolina). You and a buddy would get in free and you'd get all the free drinks that you could chug. There also might be a bit of a small stipend for you too. For more info or to say, "Yay, I wanna do that crazy bar!" Call Jennifer Smeddy at 1-800-374-4434 x20051 and leave your name and number. btw, the raindance # is 910-670-2774. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) see ya, love, matt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:04:13 -0400 Reply-To: willwerm@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marc L. Willwerth" Subject: i'z outta here.. please please unsubscribe me i can't keep up to get down --feelin' kinda groovy now' ta ta -Melonz ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:01:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matthew A Ebitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matthew A Ebitz Subject: Re: j in pitt...6/11 In-Reply-To: <199406081832.OAA02044@holmes.umd.edu> Well im in pittsburgh (at cmu)...might be able to get out to the airport, but let me know if you'll be free for sure or not, before i secure a ride out there-if you want, if not thats cool too, whatever. im kinda thinking about getting into computer graphics for a major (???)....hoping to find more info about it first though. well anyways..... Isosceles+@cmu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:39:03 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: Re: Boston area radio? > I know WZBC (90.3) has some DJ's spin on certain nights. If you know specifically when ZBC broadcasts those folks, lemme know. Thanks! > being a proud student at bc (choke, gag, fall to the ground in a dramatic fashion) i kinda know the radio station...the only redeeming quality... matt does a show mondays 6-8 or so(until andrew wolf comes in) and he spins really good trance and stuff with beats....then mr wolf does ambiance, trance, and whatever else until 2 am. there was a house show wednesday nights from 2-6 am, but sarah went home so i don't know if she got a replacement(i think rich ladue was supposed to take it) thursdays 5-6 usually has someone doing more techno... there's a relatively new show on saturday nights 1-6am that has a few local djs (ie ARCHIE X) and spin stuff from house to breakbeat house to jungle to hardcore(that would be archie) to hip hop. it's a pretty cool show (except the night i heard it, they talked over the tunes toooooo much) also check out other late nights for ambiant and trance. i also *think* that sasha spins trance and the like saturdat noh ghts (oops) 9 -1...or it could be friday nights. =) if anything, check out the show late saturday night...it has a good mix of music, and they actually played jungle. peace and love and cake harry haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 13:58:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: 90.3 WZBC Is the best radio station in Boston. -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 14:54:20 +0400 Reply-To: Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Synovial Fluid Directions Here are the directions to Synovial fluid and some added notes. The directions from Pittsburgh are at the very end of this message as recieved from the promoter. The directions preceding them are mine. PHILLY/ALLENTOWN/HARRISBURG and points East... If you're comming from Eastern PA/New Jersey you want to take 76 West (PA Turnpike) to Pittsburgh and and follow the directions below. BALTIMORE/DC and points Southeast You want to take 270 North to 70 North to Breezewood (city of motels) and 76 West to Pittsburgh and then follow the directions below. CLEVELAND and points Northwest Take 80 East to 79 South to Pittsburgh then follow the directions below. BUFFALO/WESTERN NY and points Northeast Take 90 West to 79 South to Pittsburgh then follow the directions below. COLUMBUS/WHEELING and points Southwest Take 270 West to 70 West to 79 North until you get to the Kirwan Heights/Heidelberg exit follow the directions below from that point. If anyone from out of the Pittsburgh Metropolitan area has a problem with these directions feel free to email me at raver909@telerama.lm.com I'll try to help. SPECIAL tRAVElers Advisory... To people taking 79 south from 80 or 90. Be prepared for slowdowns and speedtraps because there is alot of road construction. It shouldn't be too bad this weekend but watch for the smokeys, they're watching for you. (Especially the people who think 65 is the limit in PA like Ohio). Best advice leave early and bring lots of choons... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 10:36:12 EDT From: RICK K WORTH To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Re: Internet message Joe- Post em on the Internet too!!! Directions to Synovial Fluid from Pittsburgh take the Ft Pitt Bridge to the Ft. Pitt tunnels keep going on the parkway until you reach the exit to route 79 south (Towards Washington,PA) follow 79 south until you reach the Kirwan Heights/Heidelburg exit (Exit 12). After this exit go straight until the intesection; go right at the light, go past great southern shopping center, past service merchandise... until you will go under an old bridge after you go under the bridge take a sharp left; you are at the venue great southern arena... DJ WHO is going to play that night too I just talked to him yesterday... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 15:00:09 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: PLANET-E issue 2 is out In-Reply-To: <01HDCHYZ7LXU8WXDZ4@eig.unige.ch> On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, hardgroover/ANdroiDS wrote: > Hello dudes. The issue #2 of the Planet-E rave mag > (InterNet version) is out. But as it's 187KB of size, I ^^^^^ hehe.... :) Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1.8.7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94 [][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 19:56:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: ACK! Geez, this sucks. I just wiped my saved mail somehow, so anyone who has mailed me directly for the last couple of days about the picnic, NEraves, Slurp!, buying stuff, or anything else please mail me again. Sorry for the hastle. I REALLY wish this hadn't happened. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:05:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: ACK! In-Reply-To: <199406092358.TAA15754@holmes.umd.edu> sorry to hear about your messages being swiped..that sux. anyway, i had mailed you about getting a ne-raves tag. whatever you can do is cool. don't stress yourself though. cya at the picnic! :) --jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 20:38:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RonPS Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RonPS@AOL.COM Subject: Re: pc expo >it's like $60 for the non-conference pass (the only part ya need) but >it's quite easy to get a complimentary one.. anybody got any?? i >usually have extras, but this year they just pre-registered us and >sent us our nametags. i have some extra forms - if anyone wants to go, email me a fax # and ill fax it to you, and then you fill it out & fax it to the expo company.. has to be faxed in by the 13th, so write soon! cheers! Ronald ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 21:55:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djkc Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: djkc Subject: Re: PLANET-E issue 2 is out In-Reply-To: from "Joe LeSesne" at Jun 9, 94 03:00:09 pm > > > On Thu, 9 Jun 1994, hardgroover/ANdroiDS wrote: > > > Hello dudes. The issue #2 of the Planet-E rave mag > > (InterNet version) is out. But as it's 187KB of size, I > ^^^^^ > hehe.... :) > Joe > |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| > |------------------------1.8.7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| > |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| > |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| > |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| > |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94 [][][][][][][][]| > Oh no, Joe's got one of those programs like Kibo's where it searches the net for "187" and notifies him (Kibo's searches for "kibo"). Let's just hope that Joe doesn't get the version where it automatically emails the person who typed "187" and tells them something stupid (like Kibo's does this). :) -kc ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 23:46:08 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: SPUTNIK IV: PROGRAM.001 (INTRO) When Mr. Kleen and Scott Richmond met in the Summer of 92 the scene was planting it s roots firmly in Brooklyn and other places along the east coast. Richmond told Mr. Kleen about the burgeoning Poughkeepsie scene, and was seeking help with a party he was planing in a skatepark in Newburgh, NY. Mr. Kleen was convinced by Richmond s enthusiasm to help, and hence the formation of Satellite Productions. As the DJ lineup grew they realized that the first Satellite party, Sputnik , was going to be something special. On August 22, 1992 a gathering of 900 came together for the most diverse and talented DJ lineup to date. Those who were there remember the amazing vibe and still share memories of that night. Sputnik II was held on October 20, 1992 at Skatersworld Rollerink in Wayne, NJ. Who of the 1500 who attended could possibly forget the incredible sets by Lenny Dee, Josh Wink and others. Sputnik III on June 19, 1993 marked a return to the skatepark in Newburgh. 1800 witnessed an indoor/outdoor blowout that the neighbors still are complaining about. DJ Abraxas, Bones and Dmitry especially tore up the indoors while the outdoor tent featured an acidic onslaught by Adam X. It has been almost a year since the last Sputnik, and with this time Richmond and Mr. Kleen have re-doubled their efforts to bring you once again the most diverse and talented lineup possible along with a production that is sure to entice the senses. It is their belief that only through quality events can the scene become stronger. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 23:46:21 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: SPUTNIK IV: PROGRAM 002 (DJs) Sven Van Hees & Remy Unger Global Cuts/R&S Belgium Are you ready for an experience? Good! Four Foreign feet will shake American ground for the very first time on June 11, 1994. The faces may seem somewhat unfamiliar; but, the undeniably rhythmic qualities of these particular hoof steps will ultimately provide attendees with some extraordinarily aural form of total recall . In other words, when these two techno/tribal gurus present their jazzy, house-influenced grooves to the masses, all the magic of their previous artistry (i.e. Global Cuts/Wonka Beats) will return in healthy proportions. Belgians Sven Van Hees and Remy Unger were the driving force behind highly inspirational Wonka projects like Aquastep (ÿOempa Loompaÿ) and Jambo (ÿDrum Attackÿ). Quickly demonstrating their total and complete mastery of the Wonka groove, Remy and Sven moved onwards, starting a brand new label under the mighty umbrella of R&S Recordsÿ the undisputed haven for first class techno. First to appear with the mighty Global Cuts swirl proudly emblazoned on its jacket was the masterful ÿPiano Powerÿ single. Since that time, Remy and Sven have consistently designed top quality ethno-aerobic dancefloor anthems for our global techno culture. Luke Slater GPR Recordings UK It s no secret that America has been painfully slow in this (inevitable) adoption procedure where techno will be declared the phuture form of dance musicÿ perhaps because the sounds of tomorrow have arrived before our culture can properly process them? Whatever the case, Satellite Productions will help speed the procedure with the ultimate techno evocation! We are proud to present another first-time-on-USA-soil extravaganza; a can t be missed DJ performance from one of the UK s most influential trance core DJ/artistsÿ Luke Slater. Best known for his acid-charged, sweat-inducing techno anthems, Slater has done work under a good many pseudyonymns, including: Clementine on Djax-Up Beats, 7th Plain on General Production Recordings, the Planetary Assault Systems and X-Tront volumes on Peacefrog, and the highly mysterious Morganistic project on the equally elusive Iridal Discs Derrick Carter Organico Chicago Just a couple of appearances in New York and Derrick Carter has already become a well known favorite amongst the assembly. That s because his old school expertise (like being behind turntables since the age of 10!) allow him to elevate his consciousness to such a radical degree that unchartable levels of spiritual enhancement are transmitted directly from his turntables to an anxiously anticipating dancefloor. This sort of deeply emotional soul mixing causes assembly members to speak his name fondly when reflecting on the finer moments in night life. With an original style that fluctuates smoothly between techno/acid and house/funk, a die hard afficianadio of any thinkable genre will probably find themselves completely satisfied during one of his sets. He currently records for Organico Records and has two EP s available: ÿThe Sound Patrol EPÿ and the ÿMusic EPÿ. Robbie Hardkiss Hardkiss Music San Francisco Gracing the latest cover of Urb magazine and DJing around the globe, the hardkiss family is at the forefront of the San Francisco sound. Robbie along with Scott and Gavin Hardkiss and John Williams are Hardkiss Music, responsible for releasing such records as God Within, Hawke, Rabbit in the Moon and others which has shaped the world s view of the west coast sound. Playing a hybrid of funk, house and trance Robbie has brought the spirit and vibe of San Francisco to people all over the world. *Note: Robbie Hardkiss and another San Francisco DJ will be playing in the place of DJs Digit and EFX. Digit and EFX could not make it due to last minute changes they needed in their flights which could not be done. We made the greatest efforts to resolve the situation and we are sorry to let anyone down. DJ DUKE ffrr Records NYC Just a smidgen of crossoverÿ into the house groove. ÿBlow your whistles!ÿ for the ever-so-experienced Dj Duke (over 14 years happily spent controlling the groove) who has recently risen to the forefront of the underground house movement. The famous whistle track released through ffrr/London, has sold in excess of 100,000 copies! In addition to his major releases, Duke presents us with four labels (Sex Mania, DJ Exclusive, Power Music and Music Tracks) of equal intensity have demanded just about every housefloor s attention at some time or another. Frankie Bones Groove Records Brooklyn Nothing but praise for Frankie Bones; the man originally responsible for exposing and developing the techno sound stateside. An active DJ as far back as the break dance/free style electro days; Frankie s ÿBonesbreaksÿ and ÿLooney Tuneÿ volumes set the precedent and inspired a good number of today s cutting edge artists (like Luke Slater, for instance). His Storm Raves are still legendary; those lucky enough to attend speak proudly of a stormy past with a twinkle in their eye. Jimmy Crash, Frankie Bones and his brother, Adam X together run Groove Recordsÿ possibly the best techno shop on the east coast. Keoki Moonshine Music NYC Flamboyant and flashy Keoki has developed a rather loyal following in the New York club circuit. His infamous Disco 2000/Limelight parties have propelled him into an internationally accessible DJ icon; thus, he has recently embarked upon a recording career. His first release, produced and directed by Exist Dance s High Lonesome Sound System is available via Adrenalin Records. Keoki just recently released a DJ mix CD on Moonshine Music, and you can look forward to more from him on this label. Abraxas Fierce Ruling Diva Holland/NYC Back before the techno explosion, Lower East Side Recordings was one of Holland s earliest techno incarnations, regularly releasing cutting edge tracks from a plethora of promising young producers. Along with other notable artists, (like preeminent x-perimentalist Orlando Voorn) acts like Fierce Ruling Diva punctuated the sound of the label and quickly dominated club/rave play around the globe. Besides maintaining his role as the mainstay of Fierce Ruling Diva, Abraxas spins a furious mixture of trance/core intensity. These days Abraxas finds himself again residing in New York, this time, running the local Subtopia Record storeÿ with the worthy goal of promoting the European techno sound and helping to make it happen here in our USA. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 23:46:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: SPUTNIK IV: PROGRAM 003 Wink Ovum Records Philadelphia Easily the most recognizable individual in the scene; this dreaded Phily DJ always delivers dancefloors an (un?)healthy dose of fine, tribalesque acid. In addition to extensive east coast Djing, he has completed some serious production work with King Britt (Digable Planets) under the aptly-named ÿWin-kingÿ moniker. Besides having a number of tracks on Nervous Sorted side label, Josh Wink has a few vinyl necessities available on his own label, Ovum Records. Scott Henry Fever Baltimore/DC Not opinionated speculation, but factÿ Some of the best rave parties in the U.S. took place in the Baltimore/D.C. area; and its more than likely that premier DJ Scott Henry had something to do with them. A long list of credits include headlining of the famous Catastrophic events, organization and execution of the bi-weekly Fever and Buzz parties and a long standing position as dance representative to MCA Records. John Acquaviva Plus 8 Records Detroit/Toronto John Acquaviva has been an active part of the international music scene for over 4 years now. Though he has numerous production and remix credits spread about several of his own labels(Probe, Basement Tracks, Malego, Definitive, Bomb, and Psi), he is best known as one of the forces responsible for the creation of Plus 8 Records, which arose from his early collaborative efforts with co-conspirator Richie Plastikman Hawtin. Since its inception in late 1990, Plus 8 has churned out release after release of mind altering acidic trance; quality music with a harder edge that has inspired entire stylistic movements. Make no mistakeÿ Plus 8 is one of the premier acid/techno labels in the genre... and John Acquaviva will prove it. TIGA DNA Montreal With an appearance from Montreal s most-talked-about trance DJ, Sputnik aims to educate followers of our movement by exposing them to some of its most dedicated originators. Tiga was an active participant in The Bus Company, an organization that helped launch the rave phenomenon in Canada by throwing several memorable events that included various heavyweights such as The Orb (and even a Plus 8 showcase). As DNA, Tiga runs the most respected information service in Canada; additional activities include weekly radio shows and local gigs. His DJ services are in constant demand across the entire east coast; appearances at biggies like Red, Casper, and Elevation are not (and never will be) uncommon. Mr. Kleen Satellite Prod/NET NYC Rave memoriesÿ after some 3 years of rave activity, there should be quite a few to reflect upon! Many, for instance, will recall those ecstatic moments in the back of NASA, trancing out to tunes tactfully chosen by Mr. Kleen. Originally part of the Rockpool family (before its demise), Mr. K s quick actions brought the magazine/DJ pool back to life in the reincarnated form of NET Magazine. Other activities include operation of Poughkeepsie s Fusion nite club, the Apollo lightning company, Gyroscopic Recordings, and Satellite Productionsÿ the group responsible for providing rave fans with the opportunity to experience the best music from around the globe. Scott Richmond Satellite Productions/NET NYC The other half of Satellite, has expended a commendable amount of effort in order to put Poughkeepsie on the US rave map.In addition to throwing weekly Fusion parties, Scott Richmond is responsible for constructing this unbreakable chain of Nebula, Polaris and Sputnik raves. Beginning from the local Vassar radio station, he has moved forwards into the increasingly important radio market. You can catch his show, ÿThe Underground Dance Experienceÿ locally on WDST (100.1 and 96.9). Perhaps most notable, is his summer of 93, Psychedelic Research Lab project on Gyroscopic Recordings, which received international acclaim. Scott is also an essential component of Net magazine as Associate Editor, as well as creating and directing the first ever college radio dance pool, responsible for bringing the sound of the underground across the airwaves nationwide. MGEE Primary Productions Boston Blue... Yellow... Red. The primary colours were presented to us, one by one, in grandiose, mega-rave style. Most everyone attended at least oneÿ and its more than likely that at one of these Primary parties , they had the time of their lives. Much credit should be attributed to MGEE and the Primary crew; not only for throwing memorable, quality events, but also for exposing top UK DJ s like Fabio Paras and Darren Emerson at them. Residing in the Boston, MGEE usually spins his own trance blend of UK progressive. Entity Ultraworld Baltimore Known for his tremendous promotion efforts; Entity of the Ultraworld group has helped to organize several successful parties in the Baltimore area. Look forward to experiencing his ambientally motivated musically prowess. Disintegrator Industrial Strength Brooklyn Oliver Chestler and John Selway together comprise Disintegrator, possibly the most successful of all North American hardcore acts. So successful that Disintegrator were granted the honor of performing live during Amsterdam s immense Immortality eventÿ where the duo mercilessly incited some 13,000 gabber enthusiasts to peak levels and consequently propelled them into a frenzied state of ecstatic existence. Apollo Lighting NYC Apollo offers exciting lighting from a Dj perspective. Although their controller, Harrison, has had much experience in this field (working extensively with NASA, Back to the Future, and Catastrophic Events) their first official activity was witnessed at the recently held Rave Called Scott. Tonight s main floor lighting arrangement will include: 8 Golden Scan G3 s, 8 intellabeams, and 8 dataflashes. Apollo lighting would like to take this opportunity to thank the following: Scotto, Dale Wolfe, Randy at Apple, Brad at Prism and all the other monkey boys . Lazer Reflections NYC Located in the heart of New York City, Lazer Reflections offers the country s most advanced morphogenic computer programs for running lazers. All equipment is exclusively manufactured in Germany for their presentations. Prepare yourself for an incredible onslaught of digital 3D computer generated graphics, aerial beams, and shaped light effects. Terminal Eye-Dee Visuals Tennessee Also in attendance is Tennessee s Terminal Eye Dee Visuals who are sponsored by Silicon Graphics, the computers used for the visual effects in Terminator 2 and Robocop. Dweeze, the man behind Terminal, introduced Silicon Graphics to the rave scene and its enormous creative and technological appetite. Dweeze is also a very important part of the South East scene producing events in Knoxville and Atlanta. I-Strain Miami On the scene for less than a year, I-Strain s distinct brand of subtlety psychedelic visuals have been isolated to events taking place in Florida. Most notable of which, was the Astralwerks party of a few months prior, where dazzled attendees watched colorful displays of 3d animation. Their motto? ÿThe more we fry your retina, the better!ÿ Melon Dezign Philly Melon Dezign, not from concentrate , arrives at Sputnik with an incredible amount of rave experience; garnished in less than a year and a half. Their lengthy history of fractal generation includes major appearances at RED, Casper, Essence 3 and 4, Polaris 1 and 2, and some random displays at Long Island hot spot, Caffeine. Thus, its more than likely that their visuals have stimulated a reaction in you at some point previous. Controller Jake excitedly explained the arrival of brand new equipment just in time for the eventÿ you know what that means... *Unfortunately, Factory Visuals will not be able to attend this event due to extensive travel difficulties. PROFILES BY DJ READE TRUTH Production Asst: Peter & Catherine and special thanks to everyone who made Sputnik IV possible ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 9 Jun 1994 23:47:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: SPUTNIK IV: SCHEDULE Main Hall 10:00 Mgee 11:00 Scott Richmond 12:00 Frankie Bones 1:00 Derrick Carter 2:00 Disintegrator 2:20 Abraxas 3:30 Luke Slater 4:45 Robbie Hardkiss 5:45 Remy Unger 7:00 Sven Van Hees 8:00 Keoki 2nd Room 10:00 Entity 12:00 Mr.Kleen 1:30 Scott Henry 3:00 DJ Duke 4:30 Acquaviva 6:00 Wink 7:30 Tiga AFTERHOURS TBA ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:02:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: SPUTNIK IV: PROGRAM 003 In-Reply-To: <199406100346.XAA17613@holmes.umd.edu> from "NETMag@aol.com" at Jun 9, 94 11:46:37 pm Ok, grumpy mode on. One can take some bullshit, but up to a point. Dans la Matrice, NETMag@aol.com a dit: > > TIGA > DNA > Montreal > With an appearance from Montreal s most-talked-about trance DJ, Oh, he's doing trance now? So dedicated that he has done every style trying to find something he can mix. The best DJs in Montreal are club DJs. Techno djs dont usually have years and years of experience and are usually at best ok. Good DJs include Robert (de la) Gauthier, Christian Farley, Martin Rene De Cotret, Pat Deegroovy, Eddy Lewis, Mark Anthony etc... (i've named djs from different styles, from deep house to hardcore). If you want to learn about a city dont ask just one person who can polish his image the most he/she can... (there are female djs and promoters also, btw). > Sputnik aims > to educate followers of our movement by exposing them to some of its most > dedicated originators. Can you hear Pink Floyd's Money playing in the background? :) > As DNA, Tiga runs the most respected > information service in Canada; So respected that he never talks about any raves in which he isn't part. There are continuously microraves (basically just the name has changed from the late 80s acid parties) and if it wont get him money, he just wont talk about it. As for the popularity of this line, well if you spilled your guts to every newspaper you can get a hold of and each published the number, i'm sure you'd get lots of calls too... And there have been and will continue to be some alternatives (like Trance 5000, Trancemission, NRG, Raving Up North etc...) be it magazines, ezines, newsletters or phone lines. It is a real nuisance when for personal gain someone takes credit for what is basically a group effort. The scene in Montreal owes a lot to radio shows of course, but also to the constant work of little people in small events up to bigger one, from bands to djs, from promoters to smart bars, and this has kept the unity in the Montreal scene (it is quite known for that) from the late 80s to more recently (yes techno has been here for much longer than some would like to make you think). This however is the kind of BS that just separate the scene more and more each time. If you respect our scene, please acknowledge that it is built on a community effort, not on an individual ego. When i cool down, i'll probably write a call for unity to stop all this nonsense for RUN (which is restarting out soon from a new site) >DJ READE TRUTH Muhahaha... read the truth... yeah right. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:04:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: info i was interested in getting on ne-raves. i already mailed a request to ne-raves-request@silver.lcs.mit.edu but then i found this address and i wasn't sure which to use. my address is djfinger@telerama.lm.com thanks alot peace ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:29:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: the feeeeling :) hmm, this thought crossed my mind today: the BEST part of dancing is when the DJ spins a certain sound, or sond, or mix that gives you a rush... and intense feeling that picks you up and keeps you going :) the BEST part of DJing is when you spin that song that you know is giving somebody that feeling :) i still am overcome with renewed energy when i hear Tyree's "Acid Crash", or Richie Hawtin's "F.U." creeping into a mix. as a DJ, it takes a lot of willpower to prevent myself from "going off" and playing whatever *I* want to hear, instead of reading the crowd. just felt like sharing that with everyone :) rave on and on, in any way you like, with who you like, where you like.. after all, the only reason you should be raving, DJing, or making tracks, is because taht's what you love to do. 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 01:52:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Gwertzman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Gwertzman Subject: "sub discuss" "sub discuss" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 02:22:43 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: PLASTIK JUNE 24 In-Reply-To: <199406090417.AAA07535@holmes.umd.edu>; from "NigelR611@AOL.COM" at Jun 9, 94 12:13 am hi- im matthew from teh neuronautic institue- we do interactive video performances and realtime digital imaging (in other words very phat psychadelic visuals, that are created LIVE and include the dj's, the raversm, and custom video all mixed together.) Im sure its too late for the 24th rave, but we'd be very interested in working with you in teh future. Our equipment includes mac and amiga computers, video toasters,and top of teh line hi-8 equipment. I can be reached at 212.249.2581 or emaile d at either shiva@freenet.scri.fsu.edu or thewness@delphi.com hope to hear from you soon peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 02:59:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: help! ok, this is not rave related (directly) but i need some help here i am looking for a UFO/Alien server on the internet, i know taht several exist, but i cannot find them, does anyone know where they are??? thanks for teh help, sorry for the inconvenience. (actaully, it is rave related, but that's top-secret for now) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 09:58:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Need addressesssss Hi there...if anyone could email me the snail mail addresses for: Modern Music Music Now i would be indebted to you eternally...well maybe shorter than that, being indebted gets old after a bit. :) china ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 10:10:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: help! as far as servers, i cant help you. but you might want to check out alt.paranet. ufo. alt.alien.vistors and a few othes like ths also exist but by and large i f ind alt.paranet.ufo to be the least cheesy. good luck and i hope you find more info! allison ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 11:51:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: MW-raves could someone help me out by passing the address for mid west raves on to me? thanks, matt munterma@haverford.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 12:39:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: help! In-Reply-To: <9406100659.AA00942@media.mit.edu>; from "Obin Robinson" at Jun 10, 94 2:59 am This is all you NEED to know about UFOs, abductions, whatever.... ftp ftp.unr.edu cd /pub/images/........... Well, i'd best not tell you all the last word, figure it out for yourself :) there is a hint in my sig..... act inconspicuous -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 14:24:52 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: update for lineup of INTERSTELLAR OUTBACK when you put your mind to it, you can get really wierd. when a few thousand people put their minds to it, they can somehow all wind up at INTERSTELLAR OUTBACK a rural campground area near Lexington, Ky - August 26th-28th a TOTALLY, UTTERLY FREE outdoor gathering of the technontological tribe confirmed DJ's: Richie Hawtin (not the +8 records guy AGAIN...) John Aquaviva (noted tron look-alike) Nigel Richards (philly's 611 person) Dieselboy (pittsburg's phat boy) Dave Hollands (damn, what did he want to be called?) Goodwill (delaware acid jazzman) Mystic Bill (chicago funk boy) (all those drop bass terror unit dj squad blokes) Hyperactive (gosh golly) ESP (of the Disco Family Planning unit) Jethrox (shhhh! he danced to house all night at richie's party) Jedediah the Messiah (what a funny name) Mr Bill (the milwaukee one) Terry Mullan (proud to be from Chicago, now) Jajo (just getting home from madrid with fresh, piping hot euro house) Merlin (backwards aging wizard?) Zaccheus (houston's broken god) Astroboy (st louis boy of the future) Oddysey (tribal boy from PA) Jace (from where?) Stretch (st louey new kid) Jearren (st louey newer kid) Blazt (nyc vibal renegade) Thome Tomato (arguably the most durable fruit on the planet) LIVE PA's by: Theory Collapse (columbus b2b techno) 1.8.7 (pittsburg's murder hardcore) V-ger (lexington's own force for exploration) stupid circus-style attention getting attractions: wading pools filled with jello (if we can find the pools and the jello) 16 1-foot long lizards to scare the hell out of trippers newbie sound system with no dj schedule, bring ya rekkids. whopping big prize for the wierdest spontaneous addition in this vein and a hell of a lot more, from friday night to sunday night info at 606.281.4193 & most nearby regional infolines. "we're so crazy, we're giving it away." >> I'm prepared to sell whatever I own to do this if I have to. Anyone willing to donate goods, money, or just to help set stuff up will be greatly appreciated. contact jj at either voicemail at the above number, voice at 606.253.1376, snailmail as jj haws, 323 West Virginia B, lexington, ky, 40504, email at we will also need some way to get rid of 50,000 flyers. can you help? peace & 12016 live frogs ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 13:53:53 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , tiny objects in s Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: tiny objects in s Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: SPUTNIK TIX FOR SALE @ PICNIC i'll have tickets for sputnik available at the picnic, so those of you who don't have them can avoid the "no ticket" line at the rave and go right in. they are $20.. and i have 25 of them. another thing: it may rain tomorrow.. which would really suck. it won't rain a lot, if it does.. but...i've been thinking of backup plans just in case... we could go to a museum.. or walk around.. or go to my place.. or whatever....no matter what the weather is we'll have a great time. :) but, if things continue how they have for previous picnics.. it'll be 74 degrees and not a cloud in the sky :) see ya tomorrow! don't forget that i have tickets.. peacehugs >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:13:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joel J Bevacqua Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joel J Bevacqua Subject: subdiscuss you may have gotten two requests from me, I was not sure if the first went through ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 16:41:20 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Late request! Ride to S4? hello, I know this is kind of late and all, but I was wondering if anyone coming from the south to Sputnik IV might be able to pick me up (and bring me back) at Edison, NJ. Edison is right in the middle of NJ, an hour from NYC, an hour from Philly, and it's exit 131 on the Garden State Parkway. If anyone can find it in their hearts to do so I'd be more than willing to supply some gas or toll money! peace and thanks, kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 17:30:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: sputnik & picnic DEAR CYBERTRIBE: No, this isn't _more_ information about Sputnik IV :) What I need is a ride!! My car transmission is fucked up, so I can't drive there :( (I have another transmission & will get another car soon, so don't worry :) I called Amtrak, they want $44 dollars for a round trip from Berlin 2 NY =:O Ouch!! I'd much rather give one of U lots of gas $$ than give that many ducats 2 Amtrak, so if U are coming anywhere near Hartford, CT PLEASE GIVE ME A RIDE!! I will appreciate it greatly!! PEACE OUT :) MARK I LOVE U ALL!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 18:46:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: S.O.S.!!!!!!!! HIYA!!!!! Guess where I am!!!!!!!!???? I'm on a computer!!! Not only that..it's in my house!!! [with thanks to Tina, Andy, Jeff, and Pita] Anyways..I'm back! To do the ROM and HOM for DC raves and the HOM for Ne-raves!!! However..one prob...two days ago I lost my ride to Sputnik!!! I FINALLY got off work for an event and now, well, sigh.. If ANYONE!!!!!!!! can offer me a ride, I can take a trAin to DC or CP or Phili or whatever as long as I can go...I'm really in the MOOOOOOD to DANCE!!!!!! [Unfortunately Ali Bali won't be with me, since she was my original ride, but now won't have her car this weekend...man, I gotta get a car...] So please...Please..PLEASE..if you can help...mail me about it or call. Also, I might have time to get the HOM together late tonight, so if you're going anywhere and want others to know to meet you etc...mail me...BOUNCE wow!!!!! I can accept mail again!! I've missed you guys so much!!! And I wanna come out and play!! HUGZ!!!!!!! Love ya!!!!! Melzie aka One Groooooovy Coconut ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 20:10:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: guest list for caffiene hey there- i was wondering if it was still possible to get on the guest list for caffeine....preferably next friday (6/17). thanks a bunch! john ---- john sweeney jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu binary sound(imprints) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 18:39:16 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tamara Palmer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tamara Palmer Subject: I'm Coming Out East! For those of you that I know from vrave, I am going out to New York on June 27th and staying until July 3rd - it would be great to meet up with you and I would also like to know what suggestions you might have for me in New York, as I haven't been there in 11 years. :) (I'm not on ne-raves, so please respond privately) Thanks! Hug Your Waistline to the Bassline............................................ Tamara Palmer * trance@netcom.com * izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu * .........................................................Women Respond to Bass ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:37:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: PicNic Question.. Who's bringing the golden triangles? :) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 22:53:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: PicNic Question.. In-Reply-To: <9406110237.AA22704@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Alan Michael Parry" at Jun 10, 94 10:37 pm I don't know about any Golden Triangles....but I'm bringing the Snapple! See you all there------- --chuck NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 01:11:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: MW-raves In-Reply-To: <199406101555.LAA21999@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 10 Jun 1994, wrote: > could someone help me out by passing the address for mid west raves on to me? > > thanks, > matt > munterma@haverford.edu > i just got it today ironically----here tis---- mw_raves@csd4.csd.uwm.edu we haven't used it yet so we wish you luck. marc & rachel at rachelw@christa.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 01:45:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , The Professional Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Professional Subject: pittsburgh scene [addendum] hello. sorry to waste the bandwidth, but after deliberation i wanted to add to my comments about the pittsburgh scene -- spcifically the efforts of dj deadly buda. in my post i knock deadly buda for 'killing the rave scene', but i didn't really point out that he was pretty much the only guy around that was busting his ass to get something going on. because of a tight budget and differences with old friends, his parties normally hit 'below the mark'. but he tried. and some of his parties (the algoryhtm events for instance) were great successes. i *have* to give the man props for pulling some of that stuff off. if it wasn't for joel, pittsburgh wouldn't even have much of a scene. and as far as dj'ing goes, he has great records and good skills. and he is also one of the very *few* djs to make a name for himself outside of the 'burgh. not many can claim this. i only hope that in the future, joel can learn from past mistakes and start getting back into promoting parties with a good plan behind them. and that all the bickering and feuding can just end. (joel) - take all the posts not as a slap in the face, but as constructive criticism. and apply it to future events. i think you have the determintation and creativity to pull off some killer parties that have yet to be seen. best of luck. and now back to your regularly scheduled progam.... damian / dieselBoy ..... .... ... . damian+@pitt.edu ad-rock come and rock tha sureshot..... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 12:30:21 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: picnic john humphrey and i are leaving boston at 1 to go to the picnic, so we should get there around 5. hopefully people will be there :) -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 16:31:09 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jaze@ECHONYC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jaze@ECHONYC.COM <> Jonathan Hayes 11-JUN-94 16:31 jaze@echonyc sub discuss ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 18:18:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: PARANOIA hmm, check this out.... 2-July 1994 10pm - whenever you leave Elmira, New York (details to come) free!! (donations requested) DJs: 1000 (yeah, me) Steve (i forgot his DJ name) others/guests (surprise surprise) Music: House Acid Tribal Trance Gabber etc... chill-out zone freak-out zone free snacks & refreshments (he he he) (heh heh heh) further info?? robins52@snycorva.cortland.edu why? because upstate NY needs a return to the vibe-centered acid parties that we all miss so dearly. bring friends, parking on property & across street location is 100% legal and secure interested??? you won't want to miss this event... we've got some surprises in store for all that you wouldn't believe..... 100 1000 10000 (nope, just 1000 :) rave on ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 10:12:29 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Synovial Fluid micro review Whew! Just got in!. It was very phat, the vibe was thick enough that you could cut it like a knife especially durring dieselBoy and Geoff-e's sets! The space was big, the laser were phat, and about 1,200 people came. The only drawback was a flaky sound system that while it sounded good during the DJ sets, went to pieces during my PA. Way to sensitive and easy to overdrive and clip. Whoever said Pittsburgh doesn't have a scene, needed to be at this party (How was Sputnik Hossam ;) A much longer review may follow when I get some much needed sleep. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 17:01:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Whoa.. Okay, it was a good weekend, but first: Welcome on board to all you new folks! In the last two days we have had 10 new subscribers, and 1 drop. Enough to brighten the face of any travel exhausted listadmin. Okay, this is like a mini-review: NE Raves picnic: Central Park Went off fine but, as usual, everyone was late. :) I got there about 5 minutes after Taylor and Tina showed which was around 1. More and more people showed up to a total of about 25. A bit smaller than last summer, but there have been alot of changes in addresses and some of the older CyberTribers couldn't make it out. :( But still it was fun to share food, see old friends, and add new faces to old names. :) Sputnik IV: Poughkipsee (however you want to spell that) I liked it and had a good time. I am still in a state of amazement that they got that many people to go out into the middle of nowhere (well, central NY, but it is close to nowhere). My estimate of attendance is between 2-3 thousand, possibly more. The music was good, the soundsystem was INCREDIBLE (biggest bad boy I have ever heard at a rave), lights & graphics were incredible (how many screens?, big ups to Jake and Woof). Problems were, Security (assholes, more than usual, 'make it one line or no one goes in anymore' just as the sky starts to poor on us, is this the military or what?!), some DJs didn't make it (Passport problems for European DJs), Pepper Gas (not a good way to end the rave), someone stole Tina's bag. :( :( :( :( :( At first my love of smaller parties stopped me from enjoying the party but then I stepped back and thought about how the party was set up and the price charged for admission (for two parties really). I am surprised at how reasonable $18-20 was. Net Ravers in attendence: Umm, alot.. I would guestimate between 30-40. I was quite happy with that. :) I don't think my mind could handle a complete rundown right now. Afterparty: You know where Great! Okay, it lacked the lights (though someone did enthusiastically flick the light switch for a while), but the sound system was perfect for the space (not too big), the vibe was REALLY good, and it didn't feel extravagant, best of all it was free. DJs were excellent. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 18:50:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: zine powa!!! issue one of WETWARE fanzine is out and we're trying to get the last copies out to you. we put a lot of time into it and actually should have published two or three separate issues with the stuff we jammed into this first ish, but that means we're working even harder to top the first. this is our second post about this so please bear with it if you heard this before but this issue includes interviews with: ritchie hawtin [plastikman, toronto] dj adam x [brooklyn, ny] dj jimmy crash [direct drive records, brooklyn] heather heart [under one sky] jethrox [drop bass network, milwaukee] dimitri [tresor records, berlin, deustchland] laura grabb [industrial strength records, bklyn] sleepy c [psychoactive records, ohio] tranquility bass [exist dance records, l.a.] dj hyperactive [contact records, chicago] this issue also includes techno record reviews, some fiction, rave philosophy, some art, and other stuff we thought you might dig. we're only asking for money or postage enough to get this to you so if you're interested send any of the following... a dollar's worth of postage OR a concealed dollar [$1.00] OR some event flyers from your area [we like 'em] we appreciate the response we've gotten so far and we hope you like it. our second issue is underway and if you'd like to help out, we welcome any submission of any [photocopiable] media. all work will be returned if desired, just let us know when you send it. **** unfortunately, we're leaving for nyc city soon, leaving our pc and copy resources behind so time for submissions is short. our deadline is july first. any contact [now] you wish [now] to make [now] with us [now] should be made [now] soon [now?]. we're sorry about this but you won't be disappointed. WETWARE #1 is on 50 pages of colored paper and we're trying to make this issue larger and more bigger american style, no? FINALLY... HERE"S THE ADDRESS wetware 214 winnacunnet rd hampton, nh 03842 [rachelw@christa.unh.edu] 603 926 5112 phone good lukk, mark & matt ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:26:55 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: EVERGEEN Here's something from a flyer I got at Sputnik, sounds as killer as it's predecessors SPICE and PHOENIX.. SATURDAY JULY 9, Cannabis Action Network presents: EVERGREEN a tribute to mother nature DJs: Doc Martin - Lenny Dee - Frankie Bones - Einstein - Jimmy Crash - Adam X - Dan DC and for the first time in America: Darrien Kelly "London's #1 Harcore DJ" Visuals by Eno-one Tickets are $15 and go on sale the 1st of July Phoenix Tickets will be honored at the door. Evergreen Hotline: (718)-390-8816 Anyone who's going, have a nice time! I think I sit home and mope.. =) Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 20:27:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: SPUTNIK 4 review time(kinda long Hey everyone! Well, here's my review of Sputnik 4.. enjoy..: I left my house in NH at 12 and got to my hotel in Poughkeepsie at 5.I stayed at the Radisson which was the hotel right next door to the civic center. I'm sorry I didn't meet any ne-ravers outside the hotel, but the security guy outside wouldn't let me stand outside the hotel (fucker!). I had already gotten my ticket, but I had to stand in line anyway (for an hour.. with no movement whatsoever). We had various Sputnik security types bitch at us about bringing things in (one girl got really huffy) and a weird incident outside the line in which some guy fainted and looked like he OD'd or something, but I think it was a joke.. I'm not sure. Anyway, after I eventually got in, I shouted at various people looking for the melon dezigns booth (which I finally found hooray!) and no one kew where it was, but I found it eventually and met Jake. MGee (or scott richmond- i couldn't tell becaus ethe schedule was fucked up because of the delayed start) was up first, and I'm not a huge fan of his, so I didn't dance that much, but I managed to find my friend Jim (DJ Archie of Boston). Then Frankie Bones came on, and spun some trance/tribal stuff. DJ Archie held up a sign that sed "GABBA!" and Frankie saw it and smiled. Then, Frankie spun a *HARD*core set (featuring my fave track 6 million ways to die!!) and I went crazy! Then It was Derrick Carter, who was good at mixing, but I'm not a house fan.. Next up was Abraxas, who apparently hadn't heard Frankie's set because he played 2 songs frankie had already played (including 6 million ways to die, but who's complaining about that? =) and then it was time for Disintegrator's live performance which was killer!! I wonder if it annoyed them to have a guy flash a flashlight on them all the time so he could film them.. hmmm. After that was Luke Slaters set, which I really loved also, but I was running low on energy.. but a quick blow pop/smart drink break helped that! After that, I lost track..I think it was Wink and then Hardkiss, but I'm not sure.. At 7:30, I went out to the 2nd room (which I didn't see any of during the night) which had been cleared out. I smelled something really weird, and my tongue began to tingle. After collecting flyers I found on a table, I went back to the main arena, where the lights had been turned on and they said someone had sprayed pepper gas and they had to evacuate the building. After locating Peppermint Patty and her friend Colleen, we headed outdoors. The fire people showed up, and declared that no one could re-enter the building. One girl, I found out, was diabetic and had a bad reaction to the gas, and was taken to the hospital. Oh well, keep an eye on your 11 o'clock news to see "The Dangers Of Raving: Do you know what your kids are doing?" I'm soo glad I met a lot of the net ravers (Jetta, Peppermint P, mono, Snappleboy (thanx for the iced tea!), fluid, jake, FiSH, Jill, Ron,taylor, and everyone else who I have forgotten [especially the guy who I thought was taylor, I forgot your name, but thank you for introducing me to everyone! Send me an email with a smack for me not hearing you] Also, to Dan-- sorry I didn't meet you, do you still have my badge? Anyway, I had fun, but some of the shit that happened made it a bit of a pain in the ass (especially the bitchy security guys, I hate bitchy security guys- lighten up, fuckers!) Peace! DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 21:50:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: I chime in re Sputnik IV So I haven't been dancing, I mean really DANCING, in a while, so it was nice to spend some quality time with the speaker stacks.:) The picnic was fun, except for the pesky rain that came and went, taunting me for only wearing shorts and a T-shirt. Thanks to Mark for his lovely barbecue and Doug for his cooking skills. And of course some yummy beverages supplied by Chuck, Snapple's biggest fan. On the drive up from Manhattan to Po'Keepsie [as it was spelled on the tickets], we learned that I-87 is REALLY boring. And there's about 900 miles between each exit. I did my best to keep FiSH awake. :) Once inside, I was blown away. The visuals were funky, I surprised myself by liking the music in BOTH rooms, and the balcony in the back provided a WONDERFUL panoramic view of the entire large room. It was really inspiring to stand up there and look out over thousands of people grooving. At one point when I was standing up there however, a security guy walked up to me and said, "You can't stand up here." But there were about 20 other people milling around up there. So I said to him, "But all these other people are up here." Then he nodded and walked away. It was weird. It was also heartening to be nice to lots of people I had never met and have them be nice to me. I found a card on one of the tables that reads: "Raver (ray-v-er): a humanoid like creature indigenous to the inner-mind. Ravers are known for their uncontrollable love and their fast paced dancing. To become a raver a humanoid must show love towards all creatures. So open your heart and mind. Look around. Pick a person. Ask them their name. Make a friend. Be a raver. Peace, Love, and Ecstasy for a brighter future. Rave on!" As for the pepper gas/chlorine gas, whatever it was that caused them to evacuate us, after they told us shivering wet outdoor masses to go to the afterparty, as I was walking to the parking garage, I stopped and asked a fireman, "What's going on?" He said to me, "Uh, someone set off some mace or something." I'm glad someone so clueful was in control. :) Thanks to Chuck, Ron, Gavin, and Fish for driving me all over the place, Phil & Will-E for their hospitality and headache banishing ibuprofen, and everybody for coming together and having fun! -dave ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 21:53:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: sputnik whew..after driving the hour home from po'keepsie/newburgh in torrential downpours and ingesting the lovely fumes of pepper gas while delivering blowpops to weary ravers and having my crayons and bubbles confiscated by incredibly tired and cranky security, i gotta say--i'm tired. sputnik was interesting, though i gotta differ with dan about the sound system in the main hall, i do agree that it was a really phun party. the set that made the night for me was lonnie's (entity) in the small room. his set made me smile and my tongue hang... to everyone who made it to the picnic in the park and/or to sputnik it was really phabulous to meet you all :) i had a great time with you guys! shouts go out to snappleboy for the wonderful refreshments ;) (next time we skate? heh heh..), gavin for letting me sleep in his car, speedracer for showing me all his neat apparell...and everyone on the net who i met!! i hope to hang with you again soon... special thank you to cyberpunk for accompanying me :) well, i think i need rest-- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 22:33:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: SPUTNIK!!! Well, day of event I get two offers for rides....gabe [who I never did get to see] and Derek. So I headed up to NY with Derek and Peekay [and two of peek's friends following behind....sometimes WAY close behind!!] Great ride up...! [we missed the picnic, but that was cool cause we still got to see most people!!!] Got to the event...guest list, no waiting...SWEET! Got frisked by some female that prob tried to make it as a middle school gym teacher and failed [and ICK she patted my butt.....urg...it's bad enough when guys doit, but mid-forties overweight haunchy females sweatin like pigs from just standing in a doorway...CRINGE!!!] Peek and I hung out checkin out the place, we both kinda felt the same about the room as in...like, there was "something" wrong and that something was found to be that the room was too restricting. Sorry guy, I was kinda glad about the non-smoking policy...easier to dance...but there was no corner for me to curl up and write poetry, or watch, or "be" yaknow? The guards even took away all my pens and pencils so I couldn't write anything if I had wanted to. the room....weird, one person I wanted to avoid...3,000 people...why is it you always bump into that one person? damned if I know. Anyways, the bleachers were against the wall you came in from and then the dance floor was the rest of the place. No real chill-out room...kinda just had to outside. The outer hallway [where I was DANCIN!!!!!] was more housy lighter stuff and Lonnie did a GREAT set! Something knew happened. Since I always went to raves with my ex I'd never been able to just go up and meet people,. so I thought last night would be a cool time to try and I met this AMAZING person!!!!! [and it's cool, instead of slipping me a number or whatever he slipped me his e-mail address...I love this scene!] Anyways, as I explained to doug it was the weirdest thing...I don't do that..not like me...but maybe it should be, I'm too shy [shrug] [rambling, I know, shoot me :) ] So I got to meet TONS of people I hadn't seen in EONS! and some I'd never met before....in fact....I was chattin doug and some guy is with him with badges...so of course I check out the badges....MAN! It's this person I had had these wonderfully intimate conversations with and have been dying to meet for months now!!!! Beyond words, I was so happy to see him. So we go outside to the lobby to sit and chat and what happens...well, pulls me up and pushes me outside I turn around, can't breathe, see other people coming out [into the rain]....peppers gas....[I'm begining to think it's ll my fault, the last three events I was at end in police/ambulance type turmoil] [thanks joe..you're amazing] Hung out with evceryone....sigh...I'm SOOOOO sorry about your bag Tina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sigh....I hate when raves, when anything ends like that, it was supposed to be such an amazing evening. Went out for coffee. Went over to the after-party, stayed till 2PM. Lets see if I can name the net-ravers I saw there...yeah, I'm sure I'll leave poeple out, I haven't slept yet...but we'll see.... Me [well, hell, if I hadn't been there this would have been a pointless post :) okay, so it was anyway...shoot me :) ] Peekay, Derek, Hossam, Jake, Dave Darrow, Lonnie, Xtofer, Donato, Fran, Alan, Fish, Joe [Green-eyed panther], Doug, Dan, Peppermint Pattie, Chuck, Digital Druid, Ari, Tina, Taylor, Vanessa, Dj Entox [though I never got to see him :( ] Mark, think that's about all I can remember. Personal notes. Joe: It was so amazing finAlly meeting you in person, next time as cats :) Tina: I'm SOOOOOO sorry about your bag Chuck: You've addicted me to Kiwi Strawberry Cocktail Snapple and I've a bottle in front of me now Derek: Thanx for the ride...you're the greatest...I hope you get to sleep someday Peekay: Man...you're the greatest... Jill: You're crayons are now in RI Dat's about it folks....I really love you guys. I mean....really...yeah, I haven't slept and I'm tired and whatever and my head's unclear. I had the best night. And I really love you guys. Call or mail me if I can EVER do ANYTHING for you [except stop writing these inane posts...they won't stop :) ] Melzie aka Hazel-Eyed Kitten aka One Groooooovy Coconut ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 23:09:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Get in your HOM stuff I'm back, I'm going to get caught up on all my work for you guys if it means I don't go out at all this week, we've got Delta, Goat, Work it!, Natural Rhythm etc coming up....mail me in your HOM info as soon as possible. For those on DC raves, I'm going to hopefully change format a bit, the ROM's been looking ragged..I know that, I want to change it, I might try a few different things to see what works best. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. And thanks to Doug for forwarding the NE-raves Rom to you guys, I couldn't help the fatc I had no access. While I'm on that...if anything like this happens again, man..to come back on the net to charges from some of the DC ravrs that the reason traffic is slow is because I'm not doing my "job"...man...look, I love you guys dearly...that really hurt, not thAt it's a threat, but, if anything like that happens again, I'm done with you guys, yaknow? I love doing what I can to help, I want to set up an event for late Aug...got something cool in mind and all that, but, sigh, I love doing stuff for you guys....if I can't or don't there's always a good reason why and I wish some of you had been a bit more patient with me. That's it...so please get the HOM info in and I miss ya! Melzie aka Raving Poetress ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 11 Jun 1994 14:54:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: info subscribe to ne-raves Scott Weinstock I attempted to subscribe on 6/9/94 but my system was shut down at telerama and i lost all i had done so if i am not already subscribed please do so ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 12 Jun 1994 23:28:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Blue Prince Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Blue Prince Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: sputnik, and intro hey 'net ravers, i hope bandwidth can support another enthusiastic newcomer. as both a musician and fan, i've been interested in experimental/avante-garde/whatever electronic music since my college days in the early eighties, and after having been away from any kind of music 'scene' for a while, i happened into an incredible show (last october... ORB at roseland NYC followed by many awesome DJ's with chill Giant Step playing downstairs) that really opened my eyes up to what the electronic edge was up to nowadays. i was, er, moved. killed. ......... a novice's review of sputnik, only my second encounter with the genre, but not my last: okay, waiting on line in the rain... i felt like i had reality-warped into some Bon Jovi teen hell concert. y-o-y-o-y didn't i get tix in advance? lesson number one. then, i was inside, and thrilled and amazed to be immersed in 'it' again, 'specially after i found my good friends inside (follow the 'lectric blue strobe.. follow the follow the follow the etc.), and after i downed my trusty Maximum Strength Diet Pills, well, everything just went perma-grin. wings sprouted on my feet courtesy abraxis, disintegrator, and many others that i honestly lost track of after that (again... i still don't know who spun at the ORB show that i loved so much... list, anyone?). i bounced and bounced. great, pounding, pulsating hardcore techno (excuse my terminology.. this is what i call it. i'll open up to shades of styles the more i hear). amazing visuals. and the light show was excellent, too. critique: the event was woefully understaffed, but herculean efforts were made to at least communicate with the revelers, which was key. security was both uptight _and_ ineffective, a rare combination. we were gassed! the open door policy was heaven -- but you must continue to search people reentering. slackness. and no smoking? i don't smoke myself, but please. watching the security staff trying to stem that tide was amusing, if pitiful. a general thanks to everyone. organizers, promoters, artists, and US, the people who were receiving it all. and the smart drinks people. most humble apologies to every foot i accidently stepped on. peace. foxxx ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 00:04:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: how i spent my saturday 5am wake up in harrisonburg and go to danFREELove's in md, go get doug at the metro and off to strawberry fields..... picnic: was lots of fun...met lots of groovy ppl, and even finally got a hack goin ;) went to taylor's and hung out there and had dinner (thanx alan!) then off to sputnik (speedracer *is* a great driver 8*) ) sputnik: well....i won't go over the line thing again...except that security rifled thru my bag, took my pens and my empty water container, BUT let inside pepper gas bombs (or something to that effect) maybe next time i'll disguise my water as some sort of toxin...:/, being from the dc scene i'm not used to hearing such hardtrance...and let me tell you *i loved it*, the whole line/security thang kind of destroyed my vibe for the party for awhile and i was in really in the dumps, but then abraxas started spinning and after that, well...8*) uhhh...i pretty much danced the nite away, until we had to leave :/ i had a nice walk in the rain and then off to the afterparty....i was so tired by the time we got there i just sorta melted around a chair and chilled out... this was my first time really haning out w/ the ne/dcraves ppl and i just want to say THANKS i really enjoyed meeting all of you! aaron.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 01:09:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gil Yaker Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gil Yaker Subject: weekend let me just say this to begin with: f-ck security!!!!!!! anyways...after having some *#&^$ (insert your favourite profanities here) security (nazi) take half my stuff, I was kinda bummed about the whole event, but I'll rewind for a sec. The picnic was very chill... nice meeting everyone whom I've only known as a login. central park was fun (especially the dancing roller sk8/bladers :) thanks to taylor and tina for organizing it. back to the party: Let me first say it was worth it all to see everyone, above everything :) anyway..I don't know who the first dj was, but basically i went to the 'chill' room where Lonnie spun a killer set...i felt that balto vibe...it was nice :) then i went back into the main room, and I will argue with you dan: Yeah, the sound was clean, but it was not matched to the room. everything echoed so badly and for so long, all the music sounded like grinding (though Im not a hardcore/whatever fan, so double wammy). Did anyone else think this? Well, I was impatiently waiting for wink and on, and quite unhappy to hear sven and remy weren't showing up. but then finally (at 5:30 am!!) I heard the first piano break in the main room all night...finally. and then... out of nowhere... a hippie a homeboy and .. a funky dread :) I don't know if this was wink or hardkiss, but it got me smiling and moving my feet. but then someone sprayed the gas...and you all know the rest... untill the next cybertribe gathering - thanks :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 08:42:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Citizen Kane Tableman, Nathan E." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Citizen Kane Tableman, Nathan E." Subject: Snowboarding - NRR NRR but I am in Snowboader twice this month!!!!! I'd like to get something planned for the next Maine rave - the 9th of July, early . . . . . Does anyone have Lolapalooza dates for the summer????? Can somebody tell me how to change the address I am subscribed under? Thanks /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ \ Citizen Kane - DARE to think for yourself / /IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine Use OS/2, it'll change your life\ \ If your fitness is not maximized, will your offspring survive? / /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 09:34:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Get in your HOM stuff At 11:09 PM 6/12/94 -0400, Mel-zo-rama wrote: Mel, I'll put my 2 cents in that you should write an opening paragraph for the HOM explaining what people should use it for. I've discussed the HOM with a few net-ravers (we're all appreciative that it's there, and missed it this last couple of weeks!) and have found that everyone has a different idea of what the HOM is best for. Generally everyone knows it's useful for rides, but is unsure if they should use the HOM just to let others know that they're going to a party. Personally I like the latter idea, and think that people should post to the HOM just to build the excitement for an event, but I know that it's extra work for you. Either way, I think you should tell people how you expect them to use the HOM each time you post it. Thanks for making the HOM available and putting so much effort into it!! Phil Z ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 10:16:11 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: sputnik questions--not a review hey all-- First: Who was the last DJ spinning just before the lights went on? Second: What was the song he/she spun that was interrupted??? (It's got like almost trumpet sounds in it or something....not sure) Third: Was anyone asked at the afterparty if they were 'in need of any opium'? This was one of the reasons I left early. Where heroin is, I am not. I was also dissappointed that people who had travelled long distances, like friends I had made from NC, had to be exposed to this negative side of the NY scene. Am I overreacting? right now I just don't think so.... All in all, a super party. dan sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 10:55:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: sputnik questions--not a review In-Reply-To: <199406131416.KAA08750@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, wrote: > First: Who was the last DJ spinning just before the lights went on? Scott Henry > I was also dissappointed that people who had travelled long distances, > like friends I had made from NC, had to be exposed to this negative side of > the NY scene. Am I overreacting? right now I just don't think so.... Nope. The sound system was poor. The tear gas was not very pleasant. getting your shit stolen's never very nice. Scott Richmonds a wanker. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 12:42:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: Get in your HOM stuff In-Reply-To: <199406131334.JAA08343@holmes.umd.edu> Yeah, that's a great idea! People mail me personally to ask me that often... I'll make sure to do it from now on :) Mel aka loves getting input ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 13:58:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Sputnik IV (Review) Hey all! well if things hadn't ended up the way they did this is the way i would've started my review: Let me say the vibe at Sputnik was THICK T H I C K T H I C K T H I C K T H I C K T H I C K T H I C K T H I C K T H I C K _________________________________________ but the way things ended up with people stealing tina's bag (key's incl.) setting off pepper gas, making us sit in the rain, asshole security guards, police with a german shepard telling us we're all "loitering" and to get the fuck out of here, well it kind of put a damper on the whole thing I haven't had so much fun dancing at a rave in a long time. I drove up with Dan and Aaron (Mono) and made it to the picnic around 1 which was a lot of fun and didnt downpour or anything (yay!) and then back to Taylor's for the chill-out and all. After a long drive up to Poughkippsie (mispelled of course :) that took forever we made it to the civic center and too long a wait. The funniest thing was right in front of the door the security guard was trying to get everyone to line up in a single line which made no sense cause we we're all just waiting anyways for him to say we could go in. Oh well what do you expect? Anyways i decided to forget about the security and with Fluid and Fran went in and to the main dance area. It looked really cool and at first i thought the sound was week but later on in the night i was looking for anything to cover my ears with cause they was hurtin' :) After meeting up with some ne-ravers and all got quickly to dancing and while dancing met up with this guy Arron who i had not seen in over 8 months and he was like: "There is a good vibe here tonite!" and who was i to disagree? So after dancing to Derek Carter's set, i went to check out the other dance room. The closest thing i could compare it to would be the set-up at Yellow last summer with the big room and the small dance floor. People were dancing and all and it was really fun. I quickly got into it after my 7-up and was dancing and dancing. I kept dancing and was wondering who the dj was when i figured from the music he was playing it was DJ Duke from NYC. I love this man's dj'ing! I had the chance to hear him about two weeks ago at "Scat" in DC and really liked it. But here again he was groovin' along and i just really dug the set, and needless to say i wasn't alone in this sentiment! So while Duke was finishing up his set i heard in a break between the songs some pounding hard beats from the big room so i went back in to check them out and it was this PHAT Hard Trance that was fillin' up the room. I was like shit!!! so i just grooved and grooved and grooved and grooved and had such a fun time dancing to Luke Slayter(sp?) who also is the man! It was such a good time i was just smiling and watching the other people buggin' out. At the end of his set Wink came on and i was beginning to wonder if Sven Van Hees and Remy Ungar would be making an appearance. I walked around a lot and starting asking people and no one really knew. I found out from Derek later that they apparently did not have a passport so could not make it over. I don't know about that but if it is the reason thats phucked. So basically i wandered and grooved between the two rooms and then rested as i was worn out, and then the canister of mace or whatever came. And all that... The afterhours was o.k. for a chill out sense. But where was the promised Breakfast and B-B-Q??? So Dan, Aaron and i made it back through a downpour to Dan's car and began the long trek back to DC. So all in all a mixed bag but definately worth it in the end. Thanks to Dan and Aaron for everything and the cool ride and cool to meet new ne-ravers, and some of the old-skool crew again! peaze doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:27:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent boy Subject: Re: sputnik questions--not a review In-Reply-To: <199406131416.KAA08750@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, wrote: > Third: Was anyone asked at the afterparty if they were 'in need of any > opium'? This was one of the reasons I left early. Where heroin is, I am not. > I was also dissappointed that people who had travelled long distances, > like friends I had made from NC, had to be exposed to this negative side of > the NY scene. Am I overreacting? right now I just don't think so.... i think you're overreacting, yes. what, your friends can't deal with people doing/selling drugs? of course, sometimes i've felt that drugs have brought a negative vibe, but only a couple times when i was wandering through areas of parties where people were doing k/dust/etc. it would seem to me that people doing opium would make for a more mellow vibe. chris (yes i am advocating the use of opium :) .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: ......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' email: squishy@world.std.com this'll stop them shakes ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow , ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple _\\;_\\//_________ fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 15:46:12 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Sputnik IV Well, I did not go because I had less $$ than I planned to have, but thanks a LOT to Mars who shuttled my phone# to someone else, I forgot what your name was! Who are you? :) peace kenji ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 16:00:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Blue Prince Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Blue Prince Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: starter kit? help! i'm new to this genre of music. would anyone care to suggest one or two (or ten or whatever) of their favorite CD's, as a kind of starter kit? from what i've heard so far, i like the hardcore hi-BPM stuff, shred-your-speakers hardtrance, and really trippy trance and tribal styles (please excuse my terminology, i don't know what things are called). not really into house/disco stuff at all. i really liked abraxis' set at sputnik, for example, but have no idea who the artists were that were spun. also, where in NYC might i go to get the stuff? will i find it on CD, or only vinyl? can i get DJ mixes? thanks, any help is much appreciated. email to: foxxx@phantom.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 16:34:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , insomniack Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: insomniack Subject: Re: starter kit? In-Reply-To: <199406132003.QAA12311@holmes.umd.edu> dang, you can get loads o' goodies in NYC ;) try: groove records in brooklyn which is owned by frankie bones, jimmy crash, and adam x--718.714.5232 subtopia records which is owned by abrxas--241 lafayette st in manhattan.212.431.6718 8 ball recordslocated on e9th st in manhattan. vinyl mania which is located, i think of charlton st..i'm sure i'm wrong about this cuz i can't find my business card from there with the address and phone # (whimper) liquid sky 212.343.0532 located in manhattan. um, i hope this helps. sorry i don't have more details for you. good luck :) peace- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:43:50 EST Reply-To: Tareq Alrashid Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Subject: SUBSCRIBE subject ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:52:49 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "hydrogen.glow" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: "hydrogen.glow" Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: we're alive! tina and i are alive and well after a 12 hour frustrating hellish setback. thanks to everyone who cared and helped us out.. review and stuff to come later... xo >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 17:46:36 EST Reply-To: Tareq Alrashid Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Subject: I am back... The first message was rejected so just in case sorry for the double messages... Hi all, Well I don't know if anybody still remember who I am besides goldenboy. But I used to be subscribed to this list since its creation. I had to leave the US of A back to Kuwait, for some fucked up reasons, and that was the reason for my music/ne-raves/all of you/raves.... deprivation, which lasted from 1/1/94 until 6/9/94. It was nice to be with my family after 4 years and all. But my heart was in agony for not having any assurance whatsoever for the whole time I was there until I hit the airport in NYC, about whither I will be coming back to Cleveland,OH or never. I mean imagine being in that state of mind for 5.2 months. No music, no raves, no access to computers, nothing...I might as well have been in Jail, at least in Jail you would know how long you will be staying in there, and then you get out, or killed 8)....well you know what I mean... I wish that all of you are in good health and are enjoying life to the fullest, and I hope that I do get to see everybody soon. the ones I haves met and known and the rest that I will be getting to meet and know...Because God knows how much I miss everything...all of you/music/raaaaaaaaaaves. Peace/love/unity, TAREQ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 18:50:30 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: sputnik questions--not a review In-Reply-To: <9406131414.AA06184@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU:NE-RAVES@UMDD.BITNET" at Jun 13, 94 10:16 am > Second: What was the song he/she spun that was interrupted??? (It's got > like almost trumpet sounds in it or something....not sure) I'd like to know what that song is also. I think its really phat with all those trumpet things and i was groovin'. Couldn't they have waited for a few minutes till the song was over? ;) doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu > dan > sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 19:34:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: ATTN: Trekkie Ravers :) Hiya gang, i know this isn't the most appropriate place for this, but i'd bet my last fishcracker that at least some of you out there in NetLand are closet Trekkies .. well if you're in the NYC area this weekend, nows the time to bring out your communicator pins and strut your phaser with pride boyeeee! :) listen up: Convention: Creation Convention Location: Roosevelt Hotel, New York NY Theme: Star Trek Date: June 18-19, 1994 Confirmed Guests: Jonathan Frakes Information Contact: Creation, 530 Riverdale Drive, Glendale CA, 91204 (include SASE) Call: (818) 409-0960 (business hours) i called the # above and it's like $20 from 11am - 6pm. myself, a friend from work and possibly phil and will-e will be going to this, so if anyone else is up for it, come on down! also, if anyone is into it me and Amy/KittyJive/OhioFarmGirl from vrave will probably be hanging out in NYC that evening and night. no plans yet, just lots of time 8^) peace, and see some of you soon! FiSH ps. if you want to gimme a call for whatever, 516.331.5369. don't be alarmed by the monstrous answering machine - it's just me with a little digital voice changer tomfoolery :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 20:24:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Farewell, friends 'Tis a sad day indeed. I'm off for the summer , for grad school, for my life. I'll probably be hooked up to mw-raves after the summer, and I don't plan on dropping out of the rave scene. Although I probably won't see many of you again face-to-face, it's comforting to know you're only an electron's throw away :) . I wish you all the best of fortune for your upcoming lives!! Although I raves before getting on this list, there is no doubt that chatting with you guys has made the rave experience a more fleshed-out one, a more thought-out one :). FUck long speeches. It's been a true pleasure! Peace out, party on and stay safe guys! terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:06:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: sputnik questions--not a review Douglas Zimmerman transmitted these words of wisdom..... > > Second: What was the song he/she spun that was interrupted??? (It's got > > like almost trumpet sounds in it or something....not sure) > > I'd like to know what that song is also. I think its really phat > with all those trumpet things and i was groovin'. Couldn't they have > waited for a few minutes till the song was over? ;) i think it was "viva house" by "me and jack", if i'm right it's on XL recordings chapter 4 comp... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:17:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: NY city record stores Greetings, I've had nothing to do for the past few days at work so I've written up a list and short info blurb on record shopping in New York City (sorry but I'm a DJ and so this is oriented towards DJs) since so many people seem to ask over & over again for this sort of information every so often. At the end of each listing, I've included a short line on how to get there by public transporation. Wherever a description is missing, it means I haven't had a chance to check out this store and I probably won't anytime soon. Feel free to write back with any additions or correction you may have through private email. Perhaps someone might want to do the same for other big cities in the north-east and I can add to this thing? Here goes... BPM 334 Bleeker St. (212)929-2434 A very small store specializing in house & some progressive. They also carry CDs along the back wall which are mostly compilations. Listening option is through the DJ only. *1 or 9 to Christopher St./Sheridan Square. Walk west one block & north Dance Trax 91 East 3rd St., corner of First Ave. (212)260-8729 Strictly a 12" store. As you walk in there's a big couch to relax on. The selection is good but limited to mostly domestic deep house and ambient. The staff are friendly and reasonably knowledgeable. I went with a list of domestic tribal house records I was looking for but they either didn't have it or wouldn't be getting it because it was "too hard" or didn't know about it. I thought this was quite ironic because when I had a look through their stacks, I found a bunch of other tribal house records on the same labels and just as hard as the records I was looking for. Listening options are through the DJ at the counter (on a Technics 1100, the pre-1200, check it out!) or through two separate 1200s with headphones each. *6 to Astor Place, walk south 3rd St then east or N or R to 8th St Decadance 119 Christopher St (212)691-1013 Disc-O-Rama 186 West 4 St. (main) 40 Union Square East (Annex) (212)206-8417, (212)260-8616 On the main floor are the CDs & much of it is devoted to trade-ins. Head downstairs to where the vinyl is. Behind the counter they have a little of everything but predominantly house. If you look through the stacks, you'll find almost every EXperimental & Exist Dance record there. There are sections for techno and house where you can find some good records with patience. They also have a section of what looks like bootlegs of some very old house classics which they will not play. DJs Ryde & Osheen are more helpful than other staff but the store tends be crowded. The only listening options are through the DJ only for vinyl; none for CDs. *1 or 9 to Christopher St./Sheridan Square. Walk east onto 4th St. Downtown Records 164 West 25 (212)924-5791 Eight Ball 105 East 9 St. (212)473-6343 As you walk in there are a number of trade magazines & a few tables for you to sit & relax. Although their speciality is, surprise, Eight Ball Records - their own house label, you'll be able to find *some* techno here amidst all the domestic house as well as some rareities if you take the time to go through the stacks there. In front of the DJ are all the Eight Ball white labels & test pressings. Listening options are through the DJ or a Technics 1210 on the side of that counter. Very few CDs. *6 to Astor Place, walk north a block to 9th St or N or R to 8th St Groove Records 64 Avenue U Brooklyn, NY (718)714-5232, (718)714-1832 fax A bit out of the way but you'll find all the hard trance, hard acid & hardcore your heart desires. You can also find some great underground trance & Detroit influenced techno. Listening is only through the DJs: Jimmy Crash & Adam X who are friendly & knowledgeable. Don't let the high counter intimidate you. You'll should be able to find many records from Jimmy's label, Direct Drive, there. Also look for an excellent zine called "Under One Sky" put out by DJ Heather Heart. Beat the crowd that comes in on the weekend & buys everything in the store. No credit cards & no CDs. *N train to Ave U in Brooklyn, come out and turn right, walk two blocks, it's on the left. Planet X 308 George St. New Brunswick, NJ 08901 (908)249-0304, (908)249-0064 fax Although it is located near central New Jersey, this store is worth a visit. For underground music, this is the place to go. "The Digital Deviants" specialize in imported techno & carry everything from progressive house & trance to acid & hardcore including a large selection of house & hip-hop but little to no breakbeat. I hear they do excellent mail order service & are always timely. They carry a large selection that goes quick but feel free to order anything & they will definitely have lots of other stuff for you to check out while you're there. They carry a good selection of CDs but no listening options for them. In the back they have two 1200s set up with headphones each so that you can get a stack & listen to them at your own pace. Look for an great zine called "Base 10" which is mostly record reviews but comes out sporadically. They also have t-shirts & other supplies. *NJ Transit train from Penn Station to Trenton stops in New Brunswick right on George St. Rebel Rebel 319 Bleeker St. 989-0770 This isn't your typical 12" store. In fact it's more on the alternative CDs side of things but you can find all sorts of techno 12" albums, singles & CDs every week that you may not be able to find anywhere else. However, prices are a bit on the expensive side. If you're looking for ambient or some of the more popular British & sometimes German imports then check it out. Listening options are through the salesman (who is usually busy) & is limited to one turntable/CD player integrated unit. The store is small & usually quite crowded so you may have to wait a long time to hear all your selections. Also carries British music magazines and newspapers. *1 or 9 to Christopher St./Sheridan Square. Walk west one block & just south Rock & Soul Seventh Ave. If you head towards the back past the audio equipment, you'll find mostly deep house & not much more. Listening options are through the DJ on one turntable crammed into a corner where people crowd around to listen. *just a few blocks north of Penn Station Subtopia, inside Liquid Sky 241 Laffayette St. (212)431-6718 Go past all the overpriced fasion & the club kids & take the spiral staircase down. You'll find stacks & walls of records divided & labeled by category: hardcore, breakbeat, progressive house, trance, tribal, deep house, ambient, experimental... but don't ultimately trust their labels. As you probably know, sometimes a record can be hard acid on one side & ambient on the other. They have an excellent selection of imported CDs and CD singles. There are two turntables on the counter that aren't in great shape but they work if you prefer to hear the records yourself. They seem to have a large number of a limited selection. The store is owned by DJ Abraxas of Fierce Ruling Diva. *N or R to Prince St. station. walk east two blocks to Laffayette VinylMania 41 Carmine St. (212)924-3309, (212)463-7120 CD Center The techno store is long gone & now there's only a small wall at the main store. The specialty here is domestic deep house records & lots of it on the walls and stacks. In fact, ever since DJ Denard quit I don't think you'll find any techno in the store & if you do, chances are they won't play it for you. Listening options are 12" singles only, limited to 5 and through the DJ. If you take your time though, you can find some pretty progressive tunes here at reasonable prices. CDs are found in the small back room and the selection is decent but no listening options for them. *A, E, C & F, B, D, Q to W 4 St., walk south & around the block to Carmine ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 22:27:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: sputnik questions--not a review In-Reply-To: <199406131456.KAA09082@holmes.umd.edu> Fluid says... >DATE: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 10:55:31 -0400 >FROM: Alan Michael Parry >getting your shit stolen's never very nice. Scott Richmonds a wanker. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Why? Was he part of security? Virtually yours, Bob "wanker rhymes with canker" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jun 1994 23:51:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: The search for the Bones mix (do U have it????) hmm, i have a 4th generation copy of an old frankie bones mix tape that just bit the dust. if anyone has this mix tape, and would be willing to dub a copy for me (i'll provide the tape), please respond privately: which tape is it??? since it was a copy, the person that dubbed it for me didn't write anything down here's how it goes: the tape starts out with Frankie Bones talking about coming back out east and how the east coast is more hardcore... in the background is a Richie Hawtin song.... then the mix goes into "Peace, Love, XTC" by Frankie Bones... then the mix fades into a storyteller record talking about a raft and a about some survivors of a storm getting washed ashore.. then the mix goes into a tune that goes "HOCUS POCUS!" (does anybody know the name, and who does this tune) the mix progresses, here's the songs i recognize: Phantasia "Inner Light" Tyree "Work that Motherfucker" Spicelab "Spicecowboy" Eden Transmission "I'm So High" at then end of tha tape is the storyteller record talking about a trans- amazonian roadway, or something like that. i hope i have given a good description of what is on the tape. my guess is that it is about a year and a half old, probably early '93. the tape has a lot of sentimental meaning to my friends and i, and i miss listening to it. please, if you have a *spotless*, high-quality dub of this Frankie Bones mix, please let me know. thanks a bunch :) rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 00:52:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Goat: I'm worried Ravers......lots of accessable zoo animals in a petting zoo... No one else is getting worried here? Let me make this a little clearer....horses with dreads...pierced gorilla belly-buttons...dyed goats...... Hmmmmmm..... Mel aka Yeeeesh ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 01:32:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent boy Subject: Re: The search for the Bones mix (do U have it????) In-Reply-To: <199406140352.XAA17067@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 13 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > then the mix goes into a tune that goes "HOCUS POCUS!" > (does anybody know the name, and who does this tune) its 'hocus pocus' on Watts. came out at least a year ago. > Eden Transmission "I'm So High" wow. i've only heard frankie a couple times, but i wouldn't thing he'd play 'i'm so high'. but i'm sure he loved the title :) > rave on! sure. chris .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: ......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' email: squishy@world.std.com this'll stop them shakes ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow , ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple _\\;_\\//_________ fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 01:30:52 EDT Reply-To: heidi@cix.compulink.co.uk Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: Dougie Fresh Comments: Originally-From: Ian Smith From: Dougie Fresh Subject: Technics cease production of SL1200 series I've gotta get my pair soon!!!! doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Just in case anyone hasn't heard Technics have ceased production of their SL1200 series turntables. This means that stocks will become more and more restricted over time and prices are likely to rise considerably. If you were thinking of buying a Technics turntable better buy one quick before the prices rise to ridiculous levels. Ian ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 01:55:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Hmmm, possible new vibe hits Oz???? Hey gang, This came over the OzRave feed and I thought you might be interested to see what some of the alternate crowd are doing in Oz - also looks like some of the Goan's are setting up down under - bout time :) -------------------------------------------------------- From: Jeremy Mornin' all, Well, I've seen parties, and I've seen parties, but this one fairly blew me away. Location: 10/10. A somewhat sheltered spot in the sand about 50m from the cliff-top at spectacular Wattamola in the Royal National Park. Weather was perfectly clear, with no moon, excellent stars, excellent sunrise, no interruption until the annoyed rangers came to give everyone parking tickets mid-morning. The burnt moonscape provided an incredible backdrop. Sound System: 10/10. Totally crisp and delicious. Plenty beefy enough. Perfect for the size of the party. As good as any I've heard. Visuals: 10/10. A black-and-white cow/milk truck spewed fluoro decorations in a circle around the party area. Mobile decorations and sculptures, hanging paintings, etc. etc. Jugglers, fire-twirlers, acrobats, campfires, etc. UV and strobe lighting. And a brain machine being passed around :) People and Vibe: 10/10. Brightly coloured cyber-fashion was the order of the evening, with some simply incredible costumes and hair-styles. This was a co-operative effort between Abel and Co., the Vibe-Tribe, and affiliated persons hailing from Goa and the North Coast. A few ferals, ex-ravers (like myself) and various O.S. and local guests, total around 150. Serious party people! Music: 10/10. A new sound; lots of stuff I'd never heard before. Every song had been hand-picked for maximum mind-bending impact, and seemlessly studio-mixed onto DAT, to provide a relentless barrage of transfixing sounds, and a logical progression throughout the night. I understand this to be the Goan sound, a descendent of hard acid trance, with lots of tribal and ethnic sounds, lots of hyper-wierd vocals and samples. Totally fresh, totally awesome, never the slightest dull moment. In an ironic statement, there was a mock DJ, dancing and pretending to mix records all night while occasionally changing the tapes; this was certainly _not_ a rave! Overall: To my taste, as good as they come. A foretaste of good things to come. Jeremy ---------------------- Grant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Grant's Apothecary - where your pleasure is *our* business... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 02:44:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Technics 1200s - No More? I don't know if this discussion has been played out (I haven't been reading a lot of mail lately), but I was wondering whether Technics plans to issue a turntable that's comparable to the 1200 in the event that they do stop producing the original. Do you any of you know what the deal is? I've wanted a set for a while, but I can't really buy them now - and I definitely don't want to deal with jacked up prices when I am finally able to afford a pair.. This isn't some music-industry-against-vinyl conspiracy, is it? ;) Thanks, Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 08:11:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , the Raven Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: W: More than one sender was specified. Second and following senders discarded. Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was From: the Raven Subject: Re: NY city record stores In-Reply-To: <199406140216.WAA16361@holmes.umd.edu> from "WILL-E" at Jun 13, 94 10:17:05 pm Hey Will and a big hug to you and Phil: I regret to say that BPM is no longer. It seems that the owner succumbed to AIDS in February. Chaz and I happened upon the store during a liquidation sale which had all sorts of house and techno records at killer prices. I got some great records. It is sad though that his mother was running the cash register. My wishes for a happy and healthy future for all who are alive to read this post. Harry/ fierce wailing diva > > BPM > 334 Bleeker St. > (212)929-2434 > A very small store specializing in house & some progressive. They also > carry CDs along the back wall which are mostly compilations. Listening > option is through the DJ only. > *1 or 9 to Christopher St./Sheridan Square. Walk west one block & north ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 08:20:51 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: sputnik questions--not a review In-Reply-To: <199406131416.KAA08750@holmes.umd.edu>; from "NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU" at Jun 13, 94 10:16 am Opium is not the same as heroin, any more than sugar is the same as caramel. -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 10:30:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: My weekend... well, as most of you know already from being there or from the messages from those who were there, I had a very hellish night at Sputnik IV. First, let me just go through my weekend in order... Friday night, I got to Taylor's place Saturday morning we cleaned his apartment a bit and then headed out to the picnic site a little late. Took the wrong B train and ended up on the East side of central park. We walked over to Strawberry Fields and saw the most amazing trees there with white and brownish tan flowers. They were so beautiful and had they been in an area of central park that was easier to find than Strawberry fields we would have changed subsequent picnic spots over there... around 1, we find the picnic site and no on was there. We figured people may be wandering around wondering where we were so we sat down hoping others would wander by us... after about five or ten minutes we see Dan, Doug, and Aaron traipsing along towards us :) And after that more and more people. I was very nice to see old faces and to put faces to old names :) Thanks to Taylor for having these picnics! I'm already looking forward to Picnic V5.0 :) Thanks to Snappleboy for the Snapple's (I swear someone show write a letter saying we hold snapple picnics before going to raves- maybe the next picnic will be a commercial too!) Thanks to Jill and Gil for the pasta salad with dill ;) I think I ate half the container :) Thanks to Mark for the Grill and grub :) and Thanks to john Speakman for the tunes and Happy Camper pills :) Oh! and thanks to Dan for our PLUR badges :) And thanks to everyone else who came to the picnic :) After awhile it started to rain. Luckily we were under a few trees that shielded us fairly well... around 6 the picnic broke up- some went to Phil and will's, some to Taylor's, others wandered off to their various destinations. For those who went with T nd I back to T's house, it took about an hour trying to find an exit to the FDR... we finally made it to Taylor's apartment and after a jam session in the studio by Fluid and Aaron, we went to get dinner (thanks for the pizza, Flu!), rested, and then headed out to Poughkeepsie (I spelled it right! two points!) We get there around 1 and man oh man, the LINE! I parked at a residential street and headed over to the civic center. Luckily Taylor was selling tickets at the picnic and luckily we found Aaron and JP3 near the front of the line holding our places. As we neared the door I was told that there was a ladies line that could get myself in faster... so I sent in- the guy who searched my bag was nice and thought it was cute that I had my teddy bear and baby bottle with me. Hoever, we found Taylor's bottle full of snapple and probably thought it was beer or something. He handed it to this irate looking woman who sniffed it, shook her head and TOSSED it into abag. No respect for other's property. Since they let me keep the empty bottle I thought they would let me at least finish what was in Taylor's bottle so I could keep it. No can do. My pens were also confiscated without a word. Basically she grabbed anything she felt was in violation of whatever rule and tossed them without an explanation. I entered and waited for Taylor and got yelled at by some guy who kept saying everyone had to be inside the door... so I stood just inside the door and waited for taylor. I was not very happy at this point. I found T and we ventured into the main room. I was feeling quite poopy and well, I don't think my mood changed for much of the night. It was great seeing all my old friends, especially Vanessa (Jetta). I'm sorry if I wasn't around you all for most of the night. I was tired and unhappy and so I either tried to sleep by the dj booth (thankfully with earplugs in) or up in the bleachers. The hardness of the music in the main room did not appeal to me in the least and the back room was too hot and muggy. The sound system wasn't all that great and I thought it was too loud (we're all going to be deaf before we hit 30). Thank you very much, David Darrow, for the complimentary ear plugs. They worked like a charm :) after sitting in the bleachers for at least an hour and a half, Taylor and I decided to venture back to the back room. He saw Dietrich of P909 in another part of the bleachers so we went over to talk to him. That's when the pepper gas hit me.. well, not literally, but the fumes or whatever was in e air from it hit me and suddenly I couldnt really breath. I thought it was just me because no one else seemed to have been affected... Taylor began to feel it too and we both quickly went to Melon Designs to get away from the horrid gas. As you all know, the lights went on and we were informed of what to do. I thought it was very funny when Scott Richmond told us to get out our pens to write downthe directions to the afterhours.. heh... honey, we didn't have any... they were all stolen by security! Anyhow, at this point we all went to took for our belongings.. I found my coat... but couldn't find my bag. I searched and searched but it was no where to be found. I thought that maybe an neraver took it outside, thinking I had gone out iwthout it.. . but veryone we saw said they didn't ahve it. Out in the rain, six hours from home... and no car keys... luckily taylor had teased me earlier in the day about carrying my wallet full of unessentials with me everywhere I go- I had left that at his place.. and luckily inside was a plastic car key I had gotten from Saturn- those things are SOOOOOO handy! Taylor and I got a ride with Fish to me after hours. we first went to check and see if my car was still there... it was thank goodness.. so frustrating though to not be able to open the doors... Taylor, Fran, and Fluid all had things in my car, so all four of us were screwed. We didn't find any new neravers at the afterhours.. anyone who may have taken the bag there with them... and after a cursory search of the cars in the area, Taylor, fluid, fran, and I got a ride with Dan to the nearest train station and tooka train back to Taylor's to get my spare key. Two hours later, we're back in brooklyn. After a shower, Taylor and I head back to Poughkeepsie. We find my car, thank our lucky stars that it was still there, and drive back down. Traffic was horrendous- ten mile backup at the Tappen Zee.. a little after 8 p.m. we get to brooklyn. Fran and Fluid got their things and headed on home. Because of the day's events, I was too exhausted to drive back home, so I called a friend to help me cancell all of my day's appointments and Taylor and I went to bed, exhausted from not having slept in over 36 hours. so there you ahve it :) my weekend :) as far as the rave goes- there was definitely a vibe going... but as far as PLUR... Peace: there was a fight which caused the security people to close all doors for a bit. Because of this, Fran was locked out in the rain. The Pepper gas.... my things getting stolen... Love: same as above; however, all the people I encountered were very nice and friendly Unity: same as above Respect: same as above judging from the other posts, it seems that people tended to like the rave. I can see why... but it wasn't my cup of tea, really (couldn't get into the groove) tina sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 12:03:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: No more 1200s? So if this is really true, and Technics hve stopped making the 1200, whats happening? Are they phasing out on vinyl or will it be replaced by the next generation? I was planning on getting my 1200s in the next few weeks so I need to get my arse moving. Thoughts? Idea? :) thanks.. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 11:52:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Funkist/Delta3 Is anyone planning on going to these philly events this weekend? I think I might end up going to one or both. btw, funkist seems to be a one week replacement for the troc's weekly no doz party. so anyway, please mail me if you are gonna go, b/c I wanna know who to look for at these wondrous philly (gets closer and closer to silly everytime I write it) events. :) see ya, love, matt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 12:36:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Gwertzman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Gwertzman Subject: Re: NY city record stores In-Reply-To: <199406140216.AA24524@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu> Much thanks to Will-E. As someone who is just starting to get interested in actually going out and buying my own records, this looks like a great guide. Last week I ventured down to Liquid Sky just because I had never even been there before and found myself calling information in no time because I had no clue where the store was. Turns out they were right around the corner from where I was calling from but still... Anyway once I got there I had no idea what I was looking at or what was good so thewhole afternoon was pretty intimidating I guess. But thanx for the guide, I will always know where to go. _____________________________________________________________________________ mSeriDfFLF18tpLb | m g 1 6 2 @ c o l u m b i a . e d u | 9/HIjd+2Ru11KUR/Nj93 582WSxvXbh9zWMrI | m i c h a e l d g w e r t z m a n | m6e/opBLgHKASEOvl4Oi ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:12:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SOSCHACH@ECUVM1.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Comments: Originally-From: kristi From: Kristine Schachinger Subject: peace This is a copy of what we are sending all over the world's media organizations but it explains everything. I was hoping that people on this list might want to help us out. I don't want to violate any netiquette because I really like this list and the people on it-so I apologize ahead of time. If you would like to circulate the petition please do so and send it to me regular mail at Dept of Sociology/Brewster A/ECU/ Greenville NC 27858. THanks- If you are interested in walking with us please contact me via e-mail or at my voice mail (919) 931-1607. We need as many signatures as possible, so if you can help us out it would defifitely mean alot-Thank you, Kristine Schachinger My name is Kristine Schachinger and I am a 26 year old graduate student at East Carolina University. I am writing to you in hopes that I might in some way utilize the services you offer to echo a message of peace that we are circulating throughout the world. We are not affiliated with anyone politically. We are just two college students who are trying to focus a day of the world's attention toward world peace. The idea is to create a day dedicated to peace on earth, in both our personal lives and the world itself. I am not sure if their is some section of your paper that might be suited for this purpose, but if their is I would appreciate it if I could enlist your help. We need as many signatures as we can possibly acquire. The petition is at the bottom of this post. I am hoping that you might help us with an outlet to bring our effort to the homes of as many people as possible. What we will do on June 29th, after the signatures are collected,is walk for 24 hrs. to the Whitehouse. This is where we will present the signatures. At present, we have 65 petitions circulating we hope to have many more signatures before then. My address is Kristine Schachinger Dept of Sociology Brewster A East Carolina University Greenville, NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 work (919) 752-4860 home -------------Peace Initiative---------- "We, the undersigned, would like to petition for one day of world peace, both foreign and domestic. This day would be treated as an international hoilday dedicated to devoting one day of our lives toward peaceful action. We request that all the spiritual and politcal leaders of the world come together an through the international satellite system request that the world take 24 hrs to put down their weapons, put aside their differences and come together as one. We request that each leader take a few moments to call their people to reflect on how we can bring about peace to this troubled world. We ask that the day chosen be one with no political or religious significance. Thank you," Name occupation/organization city / state /country KRISTINE GRADUATE STUDENT :) EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGY / GREENVILLE NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 * SUNSETS & MOUNTAIN TOPS-"THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ^^^^^^^^^^ THINGS............................................." "ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND THEY ARE YOURS." (RICHARD BACH) Bitnet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Internet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU KRISTINE GRADUATE STUDENT :) EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGY / GREENVILLE NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 * SUNSETS & MOUNTAIN TOPS-"THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ^^^^^^^^^^ THINGS............................................." "ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND THEY ARE YOURS." (RICHARD BACH) Bitnet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Internet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:16:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: Technics 1200s - No More? In-Reply-To: <199406140638.CAA18303@holmes.umd.edu> from "Darshan M. Jesrani" at Jun 14, 94 02:44:47 am As I heard it, what's being discontinued is the SL-1200Mk2, in favor of the SL-1200Mk3 (which a few people have seen, but for the rest of us is, for the time being at least, vaporware). Think about it. Technics sell every 1200 they can crank out. It would be *stupid* for them to drop such an obvious cash cow. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:05:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Subject: trying to contact Derek Tiffany (sorry evrybody else...) Yo Derek: How has life been since rave the bay? I have a mixtape for ya that i told you about, so send your mailing address (and email) so i can send it to ya soon. I'm in Maine for a while... Juicy is coming up!!!! ^ ^ @ @ U ) )........peacelove and trancetrancetrancetrance................. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:07:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Technics 1200s - No More? In-Reply-To: <199406141718.NAA22827@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 14 Jun 1994, Ed Horch wrote: > As I heard it, what's being discontinued is the SL-1200Mk2, in favor > of the SL-1200Mk3 (which a few people have seen, but for the rest of > us is, for the time being at least, vaporware). So how about some advice? Should I buy my 1200s immediately? Should I wait for the Mk3's to appear? Should I not worry as it wont make a difference? thanks ;) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:18:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: Technics 1200s - No More? In-Reply-To: from "Alan Michael Parry" at Jun 14, 94 02:07:32 pm > So how about some advice? Should I buy my 1200s immediately? Should I > wait for the Mk3's to appear? Should I not worry as it wont make a > difference? thanks ;) There's no pressing need to wait for the Mk3's, unless you put demands on your Mk2's that it can't meet, such as needing >+/-16% pitch (a mod described in the 1200 FAQ), or needing more torque. I can see hip-hop DJ's and others who use those techniques (groan) needing it, but for wimps like me who are content with decent beatmatching, there's no need for anything more than a Mk2. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:57:12 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: mexico scene? i am going to mexico in mid august for a week and I was wonering if anyone has info about a scene in mexico city area... any info will be helpful thanks:) Cori ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:58:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Technics 1200s - No More? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 14 Jun 94 14:18:40 -0400. <9406141838.AA04152@MIT.EDU> >> So how about some advice? Should I buy my 1200s immediately? Should I >> wait for the Mk3's to appear? Should I not worry as it wont make a >> difference? thanks ;) >There's no pressing need to wait for the Mk3's, unless you put demands >on your Mk2's that it can't meet, such as needing >+/-16% pitch (a mod >described in the 1200 FAQ), or needing more torque. I can see hip-hop >DJ's and others who use those techniques (groan) needing it, but for >wimps like me who are content with decent beatmatching, there's no >need for anything more than a Mk2. Also because all the useless extra stuff that the Mk3 comes with (pitch thing, torque, blackness, and gold plugs), it'll probably cost you more. Unless you goto the black market in Japan where it'll cost you $350 each with a $1000 plane ticket. Get the Mk2's. JimmY |-|/\t (condom/boston) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 20:51:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Re: The search for the Bones mix (do U have it????) In-Reply-To: <199406140352.XAA17067@holmes.umd.edu> I don't know if this will be much help but i believe a friend of mine has that tape but unfortunately she just left for vacation. I'm supposed to meet up with her at Natural Rhythm and if you plan to be there I can see if she can make a copy to bring for you. let me know if your interested. FiNGER djfinger@telerama.lm.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 22:02:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "hydrogen.glow" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: "hydrogen.glow" Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: SPUTNIK 4 + WEEKEND well, tina did a pretty good job at explaining the hell we went thru this weekend... but... i have a few personal things to say.. 1: why do ravers have to be such insensitive assholes? what has happened to our scene? who would take a bag that had absolutely *no* value to anyone but tina (and myself) ? no money... no electronics.. no nothing... urgh 2: sputnik would have been a decent party had tina and i not been in crappy moods all night.. plus, the sound system was horrible... whoever set it up must be going deaf becuase they had all the high end turned up and the sound was mud all night long... plus, as someone else mentioned.. there was a lot of echo happening betwen walls.. the music was very uninspirational for me.. tho, i heard that "love sky" (the new Prototype909 single) was played 3 times in the back room! :) 3: (onto happier things) thank you to everyone who showed up at the picnic.. and thank you to everyone who helped tina and i out in our troubles... fran, fluid, dan, fish, mark, doug... we owe ya one. until next time peace >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 22:32:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: DAZE Pittsburgh,PA THE FOOD GROUP PROUDLY PRESENTS * D A Z E * July 7 1pm - 9pm An absolutely FREE event at a reserved shelter in Schenley Park for the sole purpose of bringing together our family for a day of dancing, playing, and fun. Bring a lunch, frisbee, bubbles, and anything you want to share. (please no alcohol or glass) Dj's confirmed: Finger, Deadly Buda, X-on and more to follow. Directions in a few days. Donations thankfully accepted at party. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 01:28:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: renegade rave happening I'm helping organize an outdoor renegade rave that unites the Brooklyn, New York scene (Mental, Back To Basics, Storm, Groove Records) with the New Jersey scene (Digital Deviants, Planet X Records). It's happening this Saturday and I think the DJ lineup speaks for itself: Freshco Adam X Denard Reade Carlos/Terra This is the first of a series of parties planned for this summer and possibly beyond. You all are invited and I'll post more information on Thursday. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 02:23:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Re: renegade rave happening In-Reply-To: <199406150527.BAA29489@holmes.umd.edu> That sounds cool. Don't think I'll be making it seeing as how I'm from Pittsburgh but good luck! Peace FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 07:35:51 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: scott richmond Does anyone have scott's phone number? he said i ought to call him after sputnik, but i cant find his business card!!!!!! if anyone has it, please e-mail me......shiva@freenet.scri.fsu.edu thanks peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 07:38:23 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: peace In-Reply-To: <199406141717.NAA22813@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Kristine Schachinger" at Jun 14, 94 1:12 pm My partner in crime had teh idea for "world sleep day" if everyone would sleep fpor 24 hours, we'd have a day of absolute peace and quiet :) -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 09:40:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: electronica - wrct pittsburgh hey y'all: oh well, not much is going on here at work..so I just thought I'd advertise my radio show for the summer for those of you in the burgh that don't read pgh-cle-raves, which you should, :-) (( electronica )) wrct 88.3 fm - pittsburgh - a damn fine radio station fri-sat nite - midnight till 2am after the techno terrors ambient - idm - experimental techno w/sonik navigator lunatik 621-wrct or x8-2883 campus ext. for those promoters in the area - me and my friend mikebee do chill rooms so contact me!! l8ters brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 09:19:49 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: SPUTNIK 4 + WEEKEND In-Reply-To: <9406150334.AA09353@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "hydrogen.glow" at Jun 14, 94 10:02 pm > > but... i have a few personal things to say.. > > 1: why do ravers have to be such insensitive assholes? what has happened > to our scene? who would take a bag that had absolutely *no* value to > anyone but tina (and myself) ? no money... no electronics.. no nothing... > urgh Unfortunetly I know exactly what you mean. Two friends of mine back at school got their bags stolen on the same night, and another friend got his stolen only a few weeks after that, and now this. I don't know what's going on, but all night I kept my pack within an arms reach, or with a friend. I don't like having to dance and worry about my personal belongings. It doesn't do for a good time. If you guys need any help replacing what you lost in the bag or even a new bag, I'd be glad to help. I'm kinda broke, but if you want a new bag I have a few *;) -chuck NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 07:35:28 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Oscar M Fowler Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Oscar M Fowler Subject: Events/clubs... Hi folks - sorry to barge in, but I'll be in Boston the week of the 20th and then in New York the following week... does anyone have any suggestions on events and/or clubs to visit while I'm there? Thanks- OmF ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 14:04:12 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "kristi =)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "kristi =)" Subject: Re: peace In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 15 Jun 1994 07:38:23 18000 from That is true-I never thought of that =) But since I didn't we are still stick ing with a day of peace-is anybody willing to pass the petition around or walk with us????? I got a few responses-so thank you to those people, but anyone els e-or if you can mention it this weekend to people. They" always say we don't do anything and it is our chance to spread the feeling that is already generate d at the raves and on this list of peace understanding acceptance.... Kristi =) KRISTINE GRADUATE STUDENT :) EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY SOCIOLOGY / GREENVILLE NC 27858 (919) 757-6883 * SUNSETS & MOUNTAIN TOPS-"THESE ARE SOME OF MY FAVORITE ^^^^^^^^^^ THINGS............................................." "ARGUE FOR YOUR LIMITATIONS AND THEY ARE YOURS." (RICHARD BACH) Bitnet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM1 Internet: SOSCHACH@ECUVM.CIS.ECU.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 16:23:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: sputnick i thought sputnick was ok the rain kinda sucked, but what can you do abou tthat... i thought the vibe was pretty good, though i couldn't really find my own vibe/groove/whatever....sounds like that possibly happened to a lot of people. the afterhours was amazing though :) fun fun fun i didn't really notice drugs as being a problem....but, i don't really notice those things. i'm from ohio -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 16:45:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , e boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: e boy Subject: been a while... hi all, it's been quite a long time since i've posted, i think since the day after rave the bay. i'm still waiting to be cruising down the road and see a bumper sticker, i'm sure it will happen soon. there's some cool shit cooking in the ultraworld pot for the next three months, and there's a fucking ant crawling in my pants, hold on........ o.k. got it. anyway, i don't know if wild will happen this year :( , BUT, BUT, we may be doing a deelite, orb, at a rave thing in september at a state park in maryland! i'm going to talk to the park mananger, who has already checked our proposal, consulted with his district manager and dept. of natural resources in annanpolis, and has agreed to try it. we meet this friday! if all goes well with this event, this will open the door to using parks all over the state for raves next summer. plus this site is right next to a lake in a valley with swimming, canoeing, showers, restaurant, parking, IT"S AWESOME! TITANIC Rave the Bay II, is scheduled for saturday july 23, so get ready for that (including dj duke!, scott henry , micro, sun, who, greg seargent, karl k, and some more) and, suprisingly enough, it looks like we may get an all night permit for a park in baltimore city, AND I just found a warehouse today for the fall who;s owner is going to rent it to us! smile on lonnie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 16:57:22 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , TSIMPSON@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Terence Simpson Subject: outlaw rave this saturday Just a follow up to will-e's earlier message. You can call the Foundation Line for more info on the outlaw rave on Saturday...718.361.3233... DJ's are Tera, Adam X, Reade Truth, Denard, & DJ Freshco. I can give info too. E mail me Terence tsimpson@mary.fordham.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 16:57:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: 1200 Hoax [begin message] Article 27487 of alt.rave: Subject: Technics - JUST A HOAX - the 1200Mk2 is NOT going to be discontinued - the 1210Mk2 is NOT going to replace the 1200, and it is supposed to be exactly the same as the 1200 except for being black (although there are reports of weighting and QC deficiencies) It is available in the US on the grey-market and is somewhat hard for dealers to get at the moment. - the 1200Mk3 is NOT going to be authorized for sale in the US by Matsushita. Pro Sound & Stage Lighting in Garden Grove, CA used to sell these but I've seen no one else since. sources: Panasonic regional sales office, So. Cal (they know what the Mk3 is), most of the DJ supply stores in the LA area, The Good Guys (in California). As for the repair issue -- it's a non-issue -- I believe by law Matsushita has to keep around parts for repair for a number of years after the discontinuance of a model. I guess this is going to be another topic for the 1200 FAQ... [end message] _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:02:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: 1200 Hoax In-Reply-To: <199406152058.QAA07875@holmes.umd.edu> from "Alan Michael Parry" at Jun 15, 94 04:57:31 pm Dans la Matrice, Alan Michael Parry a dit: > > [begin message] > Subject: Technics - JUST A HOAX > > - the 1200Mk2 is NOT going to be discontinued I believe the US market may be different from the rest of the world, but still weird. Just called a local shop. 1200MK2 still a pair in shop, 600$CDN each, 1000$CDN a pair. (that is CDN$, including shure cartridge). However, the next ones will be MK3 models and he says he wont have anymore mk2. They will also be 79$ more i think. Or maybe it was 179$ more. Maybe bs from the salesguy, but considering a Denon 2000F is 1800$ CDN... (a shop called me this morning to see if i was interested in a demo unit for 1250$ CDN). > - the 1210Mk2 is NOT going to replace the 1200, and it is supposed > to be exactly the same as the 1200 except for being black > (although there are reports of weighting and QC deficiencies) It is lighter. Just compare a 1200 and a 1210 on a scale, you'll see. > - the 1200Mk3 is NOT going to be authorized for sale in the US > by Matsushita. Pro Sound & Stage Lighting in Garden Grove, CA > used to sell these but I've seen no one else since. I dont see why... > sources: Panasonic regional sales office, So. Cal (they know what > the Mk3 is), most of the DJ supply stores in the LA area, > The Good Guys (in California). I would bet they still have truckloads of 1200 MK2 to sell and wont acknowledge the demise of the Mk2 until their stock is low enough. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:14:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: sputnik ok so i'm a little late in getting this one out-- the security sucked (having weird people feeling you up--throwing out stuff without even telling you beforehand that they weren't going to let you in with pens/bottles/lighters). the beginning and the end were good, i'd say. wink and scott henry's sets made the night for me, as well as the second, smaller room. the sound system sucked--at the rear speakers it sounded like the beats were constantly slightly off each othe. as always, it was great to meet more v-/ne-ravers: tina, taylor, doug, fluid, fran, jake, eric, peekay, fish, gil, derek tiff, etc. etc. etc. i can't even finish the list :) i think that's actually what made this event even remotely near worth what we paid for it. the pepper gas *sucked* (funny how anal security was and how that(`t happened...)...if anyone does have a random backpack or knows someone who went to the rave who has a bag s/he found there, it's probably tina's. :I *wfs* to all-there'll be plenty more this summer to make up for this one. jetta. -- \ / I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world... \ / \/ \ /\ / Wear a smile and have friends. What do we live for if \ / \ / not to make the world less difficult for each other? \/ \/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:29:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , XtoFer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: XtoFer Subject: Re: MW-raves hey matt! long time no hear...if you get the address...pass it along to me...I tried before...but no answer! So how is is Philly this summer? I am not planning on being there any time soon. I have some friends that are going up for Move It...but I think I am going to spend that entire weekend in Baltimore. Anyway...thought I'd drop a quick 'hello' Talk to you later... peace. Christopher ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 18:30:38 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , XtoFer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: XtoFer Subject: Re: MW-raves Sorry kids! I didn't mean for everyone to see that... I should pay more attention to what I am doing! XtoFer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 19:57:20 -0400 Reply-To: danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Help! I need somebody.. Err, a partner in crime anyhow, kinda.. Okay folks, we all know about the Criminal Justice Bill going on over in the UK. They say they are going to bust the ravers down to the clubs. They say they are going to step on the movement and watch it die under a booted heel. Well, I know I can't stop them. They are, after all, big government. In fact, they aren't even our government so we shouldn't bother them. Except, I feel kinda un-apathetic about this. So, I have begged a brit or two to ask me to do something about it, and they asked me, so now I am going to step to. What I am planning is two pronged: 1> A gathering in front of the British Embassy in DC I have looked over there, and they have a park straight across from them. I have talked to the DC police and (of course) they don't like the idea, but if it is a protest, they can't do much about it. I don't know if we can bring in a full power sound system, but I want to do that. I want to make a protest party, something that ravers can go to because it is a good party, not just because it is a protest (no use in losing our roots here). Media will probably be invited to give some testament that we don't like what is going on and we aren't utterly apathetic. Another potential problem is that the area is somewhat residential (people do sleep in those embassies) and that the Vice Presidents abode (Naval Observatory) is within spitting distance. If worse comes to worse we can just do a complete ambient thing, the sound of no amplified repetitive beats. :( 2> A petition of protest from our small businesses I figure that, if nothing else, the US looks after its business interests. I want to spread around a petition to the record labels, rave promoters, magazines, smart bar sellers, clothing manufacturers, store owners and anyone else remotely connected to the commerce surrounding the rave society. It would basically state that the laws being passed in the UK will adversly affect their business interests by decreasing the production and market for whatever services provided by the signee. The wording and logic would, of course, be much more specific and profound. Then we present it to the government somehow (maybe put it to music and send them the wax? ;-) ). My problem is that I have no time and no financing. I need someone to come in on this and help coordinate the petition (ie: call up companies and have the numbers for them). I know most of this is going to cost next to nothing, the whole campaign should cost less than $1,000, less if more people jump in and donate a sound system, DJ skills, electronics skills, media manipulation skills, political skills, generator, whatever.. But as this would need high media impact to be at all successful, there would have to be a concerted effort to draw news people in. Telephone calls, color flyers, driving people in is all going to cost a bit. I have started the ball rolling, anyone up to helping? Dan Ps. The concept for this came as we drove up Conneticut Ave., home to many embassies, after MGP2. Susie and I were talking about the government and about the Criminal Justice Act as Doug snoozed in the back when we realized the embassy was just ahead. Low and behold, as we passed we saw a great front lawn and a park. The whole idea just sort of moved from there. ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 23:08:18 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Nice memories...strange ones too.. A lovely earthy friend of mine took me to some park last night....so after spending two hours in the Beltsville Giant in th emiddle of the night we headed there with Snapple and kiwi, B and J, and trail mix and such....and walked down there...we hit the bottom adn I looked up to see the Key Bridge....lit....exactly the shore I watched while on the boat at Rave the Bay...I pointed to the blinking lights under the bridge and how it was then that I realized how much I loved the group I was with..and such....and it was interesting....I could have sworn I heard music. Later on....we watched the sun rise from there..and the sky turned the same shade of pink and the water lapped against the rocks more... and I had the same realxed feeling I had had after a night of music, love, unity, and friends. Only, this time, I got to enjoy the sunrise...instead of waiting with baited breath to find out if one of my friends/net-relations had been hurt...not knowing who was out there... and so I watched the new beautiful day....wrapped myself tighter in the cloak...watched the stray cats romaing around adn stalking us...glanced back at the bridge....and once again....heard the music...and missed you guys. Just thought I'd share that. Melanie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 00:11:25 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: DELTA 3 Well, as announced before. DELTA 3 will be this Saturday, June 18th in the Philly area. DJ Lineup and times will all be a surprise. Delta is a charity event for the homeless so please bring canned food and donations for the sound as this is NON-profit. If you don't already own a necklace, that's OK. You can get one there to cherish the community feeling of being a Delta member. So, I think we'll call this Breathe.....that is..."Delta (3) presents BREATHE"....an outdoor jammy. The location will be announced Saturday on the Devil-Line (215)631-2666. Keep calling for more info and we hope to see you there! C-YA! nigel. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 13:45:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: From the Producers of Sputnik IV We hope you had a good time at the event and we have read the reviews and would like to provide some info for you. First of all - thanks for coming. Anyway, here's the deal. 1) Sven and Remy's plane tickets were puchased two months ago. The people from R&S records set up the whole deal and we were extremely excited to see and hear them (since some of our favorite records were done by them). The R&S people unfortunately told them to bring the wrong papers to the airport - they called the airline , the embassy etc. but could do nothing. Sven called us and said he was really disappointed and he had all these great promo records from belgium to give us (ouch!). Anyway, they are now coming later in the year and doing a Global Cuts tour.We'll put the letter we recieved from R&S on line tommorrow. 2)Security - We made it explicitly clear that we didn't want to have anything to do with Nazi security. So of course they went back on their word. We didn't know that they would take lighters or lipstick. We did know that bottles,drugs, and chains would not be allowed in which is resonable for a public facility. The security inside was a bit more resonable. Anyway, in the future we will list on the flyer everything that won't be allowed in so people can leave it in their cars. (thats why we had an in-out policy). However, the precautions they took made the damages almost negligable - grafiti in the bathrooms (written in lipstick in the womens) and a door that was pryed open, 3) The second room - too lit. Thats right. The fire marshalls came in at the last minute and at first said that all the light in the room should remain on. We convinced them to turn off 70% of the lights (you should have seen it before) That was a disappointment to us since we wanted to provide the greatest atmosphere possible (comperable to the main room). 4) Peppergas - I don't know what happened. If there are any witnesses please call us at NET 212 420 0717 or E-mail us. We realy want to get to the bottom of this. There is a rumor that the cops did it - I find that hard to believe. Why would cops want to put 2000 people out on the street. They didn't know what all those people would do. There was also speculation that security did it - the two most injured people were a security guard and a civic center employee. Once again if you have any info or know anyone who does please have them contact us. WHAT KIND OF PERSON WOULD IT TAKE TO TRY TO RUIN A GREAT TIME FOR OVER 2000 PEOPLE.THAT PERSON WILL ROT IN HELL IF THERE IS ONE!!! 5) We tried to give you the best quality rave possible. It took using a facility like the civic center to deliver that type of production. If we ever go back we will make sure that those problems are circumvented. They were completely dishonest about the security and we were very upset. Needless to say we felt about the event the same way you did. If you have been to our previous Satellite Productions events you know we are trying to get better and better each time. We take what you say to heart and we will keep going until we reach perfection. Thank you for supporting us - it could not have happen without you!! I have never seen so many people dancing at once!!! That was the greatest crowd of people I have ever seen!!! See you all soon :) Satellite Productions - Mr. Kleen and Scott Richmond ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 02:42:14 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN MEGATRIPLEBLISS the rave......... the zippies are in NYC, just came from a zippy/ terence mckenna party at wetlands..... the zippies are trying to unite the raver scene, the hippy scene, and the cyber scene together...... very powerful...very hip...very fun..... anyway THURSDAY JUNE 16.. 8:30pm to 8:30 am 113 ludlow st, btwn rivington $ Delancy $10 Dmitry sane slinger Universal sound dj spooky and guests franc clerte -"shamanism in the us" Terrence mckenna- "pronoids and teh archaic revival" perhaps a interactive videpo performance by THE NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE this ought to be fun.. eclectic group of folks, sharinbg the vibe, sharing their scenes, dancing learning, and grooving see ya all there peaceout -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:32:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: NEAU at the Industry More Aciiiiiieeeed for your mind.... Friday JUNE 24th Manchester, NH (617) 424 - 7183 NEAU AT THE INDUSTRY (603) 641 - 0197 djm@progress.com N E A U WHAT IS NORMAL ? ? an afterhours at The Industry 10K WATTS of Bubbling Dripping ACID DJ's: * DJM (SOTTO TERRA/NEAU) * Joel (Rhythm of Acid/NEAU) * Spiderman (Spacement) Guest Dj from LA: * KJ (LA) Time: 2:00am - 8am Cost: $6 with this flyer $8 without Special thanks to all the crews that support the underground and keep it positive: Manchester, Concord, Boston, Worcester, Albany. DIRECTIONS: 93 North into New Hampshire and up past exit 5, after exit 5 there will be a fork, one for 93N to continue and one for 293 North, Take 293 North (this branches later also into a right exit so watch for it). Follow 293N to exit 4. At end of ramp, take a left. Look for the Industry Night Club. 865 Second Street on your right. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:44:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: after-rave reviews for a mailing list of this magnitude it seems awfully silly to me that people attempt to list all the net-ravers in attendance at a particular event. if you were at an event, most likely (at least i should hope) you took notice of fellow net-ravers. and, if you weren't at an event, obviously you would have read reviews from those who had attended. what i am saying is this: i think it is very cool to thank those people responsible for an event; such as thanking tina and taylor for organizing the picnic in the park :) also, it is cool to thank or make mention of people who stood out to you at an event or people whom you spent the majority of your time with. but, when you list 20 or so people that you "remember" being at an event--well, that just seems to me a bit cliquish and really going against some rave ethics. just 2 bits o' copper lying around- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 11:34:44 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: NOTES: Sputnik IV Cybertribe, Hey, it's Mars. I started a review of Sputnik 4, and I scrapped it cause it got really long, and I couldn't remember everything that happened while I was there. Here are some notes on the party: 1) THE PEPPER GAS INCIDENT - Close to 6am, some of the Drag Queens from the Manhattan night clubs pulled up in a limo. They went in, walked around the place, and checked things out. Someone started with one of the queens - I don't know if this person just said something, or looked at them funny or what - but the next thing that happened is there is a scuffle, and one of the other queens pulls out either mace or pepper gas, and sprays it. The queens then high tail it up to the bathrooms with a dozen other people who all got hit with some of the "fallout" and are now frantically washing their eyes out. Minutes later, I went back to my friends on the main dance floor, and the party gets shut down. 2) MAIN ROOM PRODUCTION - I think Satellite did an incredible job putting together the lighting, visuals, and especially sound. If you complained about that sound system, you were either sitting down in the corner or out of your mind. The East Coast hasn't seen a sound system that good since Storm Rave. The highs were crisp and clear, the mids right on target, the bass had a great kick, AND it was mixed well. 3) NET-RAVERS - I saw a bunch of you there, but it still seems that I missed many more of you. I spoke to Jake (Melon Dezigns) at the beginning of the night, but I never found out where he was set up. Did anyone meet up there? Let's see, I saw: Derek Tiffany, XtoFer, Boris, Kevin (Shaft), doug, Nigel, Scott Richmond, Cat(herine), Taylor and Tina, and a few others who I don't recall right now. 4) ABRAXIS - HOLY SHIT, HE'S AWESOME!!! I have never heard him spin before, but when they announced him and he started off his set with that "Empirial Throne Room Entrance Music"(tm), PEOPLE BUGGED OUT AND WENT NUTS!!! (That means they liked it) There were ravers who had been sitting down and others who had just been standing around, but when that song started, they stood up, faced the stage, and when the beat kicked in, the floor _ERUPTED_ with purE EnErgy!!! If any of you out there felt this too, please write me, I'd _love_ to talk to you more about it. 5) OVERALL - Most of the people I've talked to and I all feel that Sputnik 4 was one of the _BEST_ parties in a long, long time... Some of the strongest vibe I have ever felt, period. The start up (line & search) and shut down completely sucked, but what happened in between was _MAGICAL_. pEacE, lovE, unitE, and purE EnErgy, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 00:46:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: Re: sputnik question... On Mon June 13 Fluid Wrote >> First: Who was the last DJ spinning just before the lights went on? >Scott Henry Wrong - it was Tiga >Nope. The sound system was poor. The tear gas was not very pleasant. getting your shit stolen's never very nice. Scott Richmonds a wanker. I'm sorry you didn't like the sound system - it was the largest system ever at an event in the north east powered by 47 1000 watt carver amps - even keoki said it was the first time he could remember that a system was as good at the end of the night as at the begining. No the tear gas was not pleasent - please read " a note from satellite" Getting your shit stolen is never nice - I assure you I did not steal it. One must watch their stuff at all times - not all ravers care about you. Sometimes people do not respect other peoples property which is very evident by looking at the grafiti and stickers all over a rave space when an event is concluded. The space is also someone else's property. Obviously, many people have a lot to learn about respecting one another. By the way, someone stole a $500 mixer from the second room but we take the resposibility to know that we should have been watching it at all times. As far as me being a wanker.... I may very well be... however, I don't ever remember meeting you in person and getting to know each other in order for you to make a judgement about me. I must be a wanker for putting so much effort into an event if no one appreciated it. Just knowing the majority of people enjoyed it made it worth it for me. I wish everyone could feel the same positivity about it. We are well aware of the problems that occured (read "a note from satellite..") and we will not be discouraged and will try even harder next time. Feel free to get to know me and make your own judgement before you insult me in a public forum - thats not what the seen is about! PLUR:) Scott Richmond ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:13:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: From the Producers of Sputnik IV i didn't feel like editing the entire post, but.... i could've sworn that netmag had posted that we would more than likely be able to bring in empty water bottles, but not full ones......ah well...it just kinda irritated me cuz i lost my bike bottle :( . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 00:23:09 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NETMag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NETMag@AOL.COM Subject: A note from Satellite We hope you had a good time at the event and we have read the reviews and would like to provide some info for you. First of all - thanks for coming. Anyway, here's the deal. 1) Sven and Remy's plane tickets were puchased two months ago. The people from R&S records set up the whole deal and we were extremely excited to see and hear them (since some of our favorite records were done by them). The R&S people unfortunately told them to bring the wrong papers to the airport - they called the airline , the embassy etc. but could do nothing. Sven called us and said he was really disappointed and he had all these great promo records from belgium to give us (ouch!). Anyway, they are now coming later in the year and doing a Global Cuts tour.We'll put the letter we recieved from R&S on line tommorrow. 2)Security - We made it explicitly clear that we didn't want to have anything to do with Nazi security. So of course they went back on their word. We didn't know that they would take lighters or lipstick. We did know that bottles,drugs, and chains would not be allowed in which is resonable for a public facility. The security inside was a bit more resonable. Anyway, in the future we will list on the flyer everything that won't be allowed in so people can leave it in their cars. (thats why we had an in-out policy). However, the precautions they took made the damages almost negligable - grafiti in the bathrooms (written in lipstick in the womens) and a door that was pryed open, 3) The second room - too lit. Thats right. The fire marshalls came in at the last minute and at first said that all the light in the room should remain on. We convinced them to turn off 70% of the lights (you should have seen it before) That was a disappointment to us since we wanted to provide the greatest atmosphere possible (comperable to the main room). 4) Peppergas - I don't know what happened. If there are any witnesses please call us at NET 212 420 0717 or E-mail us. We realy want to get to the bottom of this. There is a rumor that the cops did it - I find that hard to believe. Why would cops want to put 2000 people out on the street. They didn't know what all those people would do. There was also speculation that security did it - the two most injured people were a security guard and a civic center employee. Once again if you have any info or know anyone who does please have them contact us. WHAT KIND OF PERSON WOULD IT TAKE TO TRY TO RUIN A GREAT TIME FOR OVER 2000 PEOPLE.THAT PERSON WILL ROT IN HELL IF THERE IS ONE!!! 5) We tried to give you the best quality rave possible. It took using a facility like the civic center to deliver that type of production. If we ever go back we will make sure that those problems are circumvented. They were completely dishonest about the security and we were very upset. Needless to say we felt about the event the same way you did. If you have been to our previous Satellite Productions events you know we are trying to get better and better each time. We take what you say to heart and we will keep going until we reach perfection. Thank you for supporting us - it could not have happen without you!! We have never seen so many people dancing at once!!! That was the greatest crowd of people We have ever seen!!! See you all soon :) Satellite Productions - Mr. Kleen and Scott Richmond ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:48:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: after-rave reviews well, my views on this are different- I like to see people list who they remember meeting or seeing at a particular rave- it's like when you come back from an event and your roommate asks you who of your friends you saw, you list out who were there. I don't see much difference here. I like to see who had attended what rave- how many netravers there were- who I missed, etc. I don't find it to be cliquish in the least. We're not listing people to say "I was seen with so and so" or anything like that... we're just describing our experience and who of those in our community we were fortunate enough to see again :) sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:47:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: records for a new dj I was wondering if anyone could suggest their top 5-10 hardcore records for a new dj (please only put ones that are now available in stores). I will be going to 611 Records (Philly) this weekend and want to get my first shipment of wondrous tunes. Please mail me directly (munterma@haverford.edu) because I don't think all on this list will want to every post of this nature. If anyone else would like a look at these lists, then just mail me and I'll forward em to you. Thanks a lot see ya love, matt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 12:59:17 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Thanks David Darrow... Cybertribe, After finding a pair of foam ear plugs in my pocket of the pants I had worn to Sputnik, I had to make sure I did two things: 1) Thanks David Darrow for them, a really nice gesture of kindness to give those things out... 2) Sorry to anyone who I might have offended about them not liking the sound system. I thought it was great, but then again, I had the plugs in the whole night. It's kind of funny to try to talk to someone when you've got ear plugs in, cuz you don't realize what volume you're speaking at. All night long, I'd try to talk to my frineds and they'd have to keep asking me "What?" :) From, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:41:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: GROUNATION, free event in Brooklyn Free event in Brooklyn, NY - Prospect Park (in the Nethermead) from 1pm to 8pm, (718)965-8999 for more info. Planet Generation, the Zippies, Liquid Sky, etc. etc. present GROUNATION "with the positive support of Prospect Park, The French Embassy and the Faites De La Musique: a gathering of roots, percussion from Haiti and the Caribbeans, South America, The USA, Africa & all over the world: with DJs & poets from New York City & The Planet, bring your drum 4 spiritual uprising. THE FREE VOICE WILL SPEAK UP." Note: The only DJ I know so far that will be there is Carlos of Liquid Sky. Also, at the Zippy press conference I went to last week, a spokesperson from Planet Generation explained "grounation" to mean the uniting of the earth (ground) with the crown/high point... like a coronation. "High-tech & roots - back to Africa: RAV-OLU-ZION is the musical event of consciousness in africa motherland alpha and omega of our-story. Roots to techno music is the universal language 4 planetary redemption." I'm going to check this out before heading to another free party that same night. I'll post more about it tonight after I check out the site. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:01:21 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Technics 1200s - No ... I can't believe this!!! What is Technics thinking? Have they never been to a club or rave? Tons of DJ's use the 1200's.. almost every DJ I know of uses them. I need to buy 1 more 1200 to complete a set, I better get of my arse.. Fuckers!! Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:17:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: Thanks David Darrow... Oh heavens yes! Thank you very much, David, for the earplugs- I left the rave with NO ringing in my ears :) everytime anyone came up to me, I'd have to take out the plugs- unfortunately I'd be BLASTED with this high pitched treble each time! I swear, my the time we're all over 30, at least half of us will have hearing problems :) we'll become the Deaf Generation :) what do you think would be worse.. losing your eyesight or your hearing? without sight, I wouldn't be able to see my darling Taylor and my other net friends, nor see the beautiful visuals from Melon Designs and the others, the lasers, see the swarms of hapy faces dancing up and down... and without hearing, my soul would not be touched by such beautiful melodies as Sunflower, Papua New Guinea, Narramines, and Industrial Base, some of my absolute favourites.... I don't know what would be worse for me... both probably equally so Sky(FloWer) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jun 1994 20:14:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: My weekend... Tina.. That really sucks that your night was so hellish, mine wasn't so bad but the security pissed me off.. I had one question though: >Peace: there was a fight which caused the security people to close >all >doors for a bit. Because of this, Fran was locked out in the rain. when was the fight? I was in the main room the whole time, but I'm curious as to when it happened? Peace!! (I mean it!!!) DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 13:08:12 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV In-Reply-To: <199406161544.LAA15237@holmes.umd.edu> wait a second....i have a question...what were a bunch of drag queens in a limo doing at a rave? i didn't realize parties had become faboulous? eekkk...i guess that means i am not cool enough to go to raves either (laura always use to say i wasn't cool enough to go clubbing in nyc) help....susie(: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:36:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: NETherworld *update* 2.0 - song selection is done i am proud to announce the song line-up for the upcoming NETherworld tape- there was so much high quality stuff sent to me that i am still in awe!so, without further ado, the NETherworld lineup (in no particular order): 1. axon "pygme up" 2. symbion project "the infinite number of truths that remain to be discovered" 2. method one "new day" 4. john sweeney "phylum" 5. logarithmic sound source "biogene" (genesplice mix) 6. glowball "tripping backwards" 7. induction "106" 8. audio tribe "vision quest" 9. offworld "etheria" 10.kingsize "cocopuff" 11.tintinnabulation "mantis" 12.1.8.7. "jungleman" (wicked jungle mix) 13.sean simmen "blue skies" 14.francois dion "geoide" i think there might also be a song from one of taylor's projects, but like an id iot i forgot to mail him.....so im not sure aboout it due to space limitations, iwasn't able to use all the songs sent to me-to all who didn't get in, dont worry....there will be a netherworld 2 at some point :) to all those who DID get in-there are a few things i need from you: 1. i need a good copy of the song that was accepted.-completly produced, on no less than a type II (high bias) cassette. unfortunatly, i wont have access to a DAT machine like i first planned...but i can make high quality tape copies, so if you send a good-sounding cassette to me, the song will still sound good in the comp. now, if you think that the version you sent me already is produced well enough, let me know and you wont have to send me a new tape. remember, you are basically responsibe for how your tracks sound, so make sure it is good :) 2. for the tape insert, i need a mini bio from all of you: name, song title, e-mail and snail mail addresses, people involved, and all that. feel free to add any other info, like shout outs, equipment list, sayings, proverbs, whatever you want to say...just dont make it too long (about a good paragraph) 3. please get me the master copies AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!i wanna actually stArt producing these things in say, mid july ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + + + "we are the music makers, and WE are the dreamers of the dream...." + + + + jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu + + + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + + + "we are the music makers, and WE are the dreamers of the dream...." + + + + jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu + + + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 16:53:20 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV In-Reply-To: "Susan R. Kameny" "Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV" (Jun 16, 1:08pm) On Jun 16 at 1:08pm, Susan R. Kameny wrote: > wait a second....i have a question...what were a bunch of drag queens in > a limo doing at a rave? i didn't realize parties had become faboulous? > eekkk...i guess that means i am not cool enough to go to raves either > (laura always use to say i wasn't cool enough to go clubbing in nyc) > help....susie(: Hah!! Where you been girl!?! At least around here, raves have been clubs for months and months now! %^) dave. -- ----- djm@progress.com ------------------- PH: 617-280-4474 -------------------- They knew he'd never been on || PARENTAL This album contains explicit lyrics their TV, so they passed his || ==== which may cause your children to good music by. -Joni Mitchell || ADVISORY become free thinking intellectuals. * We are BORGanized religion. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. Resistance is futile. * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 14:02:04 U Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Owen McInerney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Owen McInerney Subject: Help Subject: Time:1:59 PM OFFICE MEMO Help Date:6/16/94 Please, please, please mail me info for what's on in New York city from June 20-27 Thanks, owen_mcinerney@claris.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:03:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: after-rave reviews In-Reply-To: <199406161643.MAA15785@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, WO AI TAYLOR wrote: > well, my views on this are different- I like to see people list who they remember meeting or seeing at a particular rave- it's like when you come back from an event and your roommate asks you who of your friends you saw, you list out who were there. I don't see much difference here. I like to see who had attended what rave- how many netravers there were- who I missed, etc. I don't find it to be cliquish in the least. We're not listing people to say "I was seen with so and so" or anything like that... we're just describing our experience and who of those in our community we were fortunate enough to see again :) >>i see your point, but for a list of this size it seems really cliquish to list only 20 people that you saw at an event when there was maybe 50+ people there. if everyone likes to see a list of those who attended what event then maybe everyone should sign something at the events they go to and then post the names of those net-ravers who attended the event to the list. i think you can describe an experience without excluding people--cuz that's what you do when you specifically say "the net-ravers who were in attandence" and then you list names. again, i think it's phine to thank those who are responsible for events and those people who stood out to you or are whom you spent the majority of your time with at an event. doing this is sharing an experience, not excluding. love and unity- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 17:07:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: Thanks David Darrow... In-Reply-To: <199406162011.QAA19059@holmes.umd.edu> from "WO AI TAYLOR" at Jun 16, 94 04:17:13 pm > what do you think would be worse.. losing your eyesight or your > hearing? Hearing, without a doubt. But then again, I'm biased because my eyesight sucks, and has since birth. Sure, learning how to com- municate nonvisually with the computer would be a pain, and spinning would be a serious challenge, never driving again would suck, but I'd chuck all that in an instant if the alternative were to never hear music again. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:29:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: My weekend... In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Jun 94 20:14:43 -0400. <9406162015.AA19964@MIT.EDU> >when was the fight? I was in the main room the whole time, but I'm curious as >to when it happened? I think there were actually couple of fights. The one I witnessed was towards the end of the rave during Tiga's set. I was dancing in the main room by the Melon Designs booths and these two losers started, squirming all over the wet floor. Security came, but he couldn't separate them for a couple of minutes. I don't think this was the same fight as one Tina discribed because I don't remember them closing the door or anything like that. The Drag Queen fight that Mars descirbed would be the third one I guess. Jimmy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:46:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francis L Sibilla Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francis L Sibilla Subject: Re: My weekend... In-Reply-To: <199406162015.QAA19129@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 15 Jun 1994 DJEntox@AOL.COM wrote: > Tina.. > That really sucks that your night was so hellish, mine wasn't so bad but > the security pissed me off.. I had one question though: > >Peace: there was a fight which caused the security people to close >all > >doors for a bit. Because of this, Fran was locked out in the rain. > > when was the fight? I was in the main room the whole time, but I'm curious as > to when it happened? > > Peace!! (I mean it!!!) > DJ Entox > I'm pretty sure the sun was up when it happened - so I'd say 5 or 5:30. It was odd. All of a sudden all the security people locked the doors. When we asked, "Whyare we being locked out?" Security people wouldn't answer - typical. Then someone was dragged out kicking by a guard. Someone in the crowd said he must have tried to smoke a cigarette. Some women started asking the guards to be calmer and more peaceful about the situation. They tried to explain PLUR but not in those words. The guard said bullshit and that they were breaking up a fight - maybe that has some relation to the club kids and mace as mentioned in a previous post. After a while someone from the second room opened up the side door to see what was happening - that's when I got back inside. But the mace incident happened not that long after that. I could go on bitching about how poorly securty dealt with that, but we all know what assholes they were. I really feel bad for the inconvenience that Tina and Taylor experienced because someone stole her bag. With all of the negative things that happened at this event I think I can say that the "scene" has gone way downhill. I NEVER saw a fight at a rave before this past weekend. I remember how pissed off I felt when there was a fight at a club in philly I used to frequent in high school (Revival). It was shortly after that when I stopped going because it was no longer the nice, friendly place it had been. I saw the club scene of my highschool years die - the same way that raves are changing now. Raves in the northeast won't require the same legislation that seems to be occuring in Britain right now. I think they will soon die on their own. The people I meet from the net have been the one positive force that has kept me going to raves (that and the music). It's a shame, but it's hard to find motivation to travel to events when you see your friends treaty shitty and harrassed. Sorry this got so long - I just needed to get that off my chest. Fran ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:50:51 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: after-rave reviews In-Reply-To: <199406161643.MAA15785@holmes.umd.edu>; from "WO AI TAYLOR" at Jun 16, 94 12:48 (noon) i must agree with Tina on this. i think that listing everyone who you remember seeing at a party is just another way of getting people psyched up in a retroactive kind of way - sort of like the HOM does to make people psyched to see who is going where. (am i making sense? :) i for one have ALWAYS made it a point to list everyone that i can remember, and i don't think it's cliquish to do so. like tina said, the purpose is not to tell everyone who you were seen with at the party, not in the least. anyway, enough said. another two pennies tossed in the well :) peace, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:41:39 ADT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mary-Kathryn Whitney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mary-Kathryn Whitney Subject: Temporary Good-bye =============================================================== Hi ya gang! Can someone briefly post about how to sign off of NE-Raves? (and back on too!) I send mail to ????? and put the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the subject line or is it in the body of the message?? I can't believe it but for the 1st time in (what's it been?) 2 yrs that NE-Raves has existed I'm going off-line! I joined a few months after the list started & though I rarely post & live many miles away, I feel kinda strange. I've got to do a demo here at work next week & have to use my computer acct. (& I wouldn't know how to explain NE-Raves) Hope to be back soon. Boogie on! M-K (Mary-Kathryn) Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 01:49:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Randy Murphy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Randy Murphy Subject: Re: sputnik let me know where they will be plenty more, as as I don't want to be gassed with << pepper gas>> although that's just capasacain, which I had lots of as a kid growing up in southern california, and all my afferent neurones are permanently lesioned, Regards, Randy Murphy@cns.nyu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 01:50:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Randy Murphy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Randy Murphy Subject: Re: MW-raves its easy to hit the R rather than the R randy murphy@cns.nyu.edu NB I don't have a fancy signature ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:28:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Eileen Reilly Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Eileen Reilly Subject: .02 worth Can I have all these pennies people keep giving? There seem to be so many it may pay for, ummm.... Ed's and my wedding :) :):) eileen ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:49:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV In-Reply-To: <199406162018.QAA19342@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Susan R. Kameny wrote: > wait a second....i have a question...what were a bunch of drag queens in > a limo doing at a rave? i didn't realize parties had become faboulous? > eekkk...i guess that means i am not cool enough to go to raves either > (laura always use to say i wasn't cool enough to go clubbing in nyc) I think he meant the Keoki fans..... -mel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:54:38 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: after-rave reviews In-Reply-To: <9406161542.AA00356@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "jill" at Jun 16, 94 11:44 am > > but, when you list 20 or so people that you "remember" being at an > event--well, that just seems to me a bit cliquish and really going > against some rave ethics. > > just 2 bits o' copper lying around- > > jill > unrest@wam.umd.edu > i don't think you understand what by doing that we're saying. ne-ravers are like an extended family and the only time i get to see a good many of them at a rave is during an event. I don't at the same time however dont list people i see again that are on the net since they arn't on here. if that sounds cliquey to mention seeing some cool people over then night then so bee it. doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 20:58:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: after-rave reviews In-Reply-To: <199406162106.RAA20144@holmes.umd.edu> We have tried before to set up lsits of names...so people knew who to look for and such...and the HOM also allows for the same thing. I disagree that it's cliquish to name people....not at all.... People feel good when mentioned...and since we would essentially have been describing our night and the people mentioned are of course a large part of the evening...why is it any bit wrong to name those that helped make your evening/night/morning truly worth while. I think in a way it shows others a respect...and admitting that they were a part of your time at the event...and just as the DJs play a role, so do the people around you. I think the ante is now at 6 cents Melzie aka Snuggly Cheesecake ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 19:03:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: what about goat? >how come GOAT isn't in the ROM... i was gonan write this big long thing up bitching about this but ill just say this... IF ANYONE GETS A FLIER FOR AN EVENT THAT THEY THINK IS COOL/WOULD LIKE TO GO TO/ETC.....TYPE IT UP, AND SEND IT TO MELZIE (melzie@wam.umd.edu --i think) AND INHUMAN (inhuman+@cmu.edu) AND ITLL GHET PUT ON THE ROM....ITS THAT EASY... the ppl who compile the raveomatics cant go to every party and/or get every flier...its enuff that they gather everything together and put it in a convenient format... so cut them a break and do your part if u see a cool event coming up..there have been several parties/fliers lately that havent made it to the r-o-m (notably post rave the bay and sputnik fliers)...so if u have them, please type them up, cause we all wanna know about them ok? *hugs* peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:13:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: International Just wanted you folks to see that NE Raves isn't just north east anymore, seems we have a tinge of the international in our midst. Big shout out to all the folks from: * Australia: * Austria: * Canada: * Germany: * Great Britain: * Switzerland: * USA: Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:36:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sjakie Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sjakie Subject: Re: sputnik question... In-Reply-To: <199406161607.MAA15431@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 15 Jun 1994 NETMag@AOL.COM wrote: > On Mon June 13 Fluid Wrote > > >> First: Who was the last DJ spinning just before the lights went on? > > >Scott Henry > > Wrong - it was Tiga > > >Nope. The sound system was poor. The tear gas was not very pleasant. > getting your shit stolen's never very nice. Scott Richmonds a wanker. > > I'm sorry you didn't like the sound system - it was the largest system ever > at an event in the north east powered by 47 1000 watt carver amps - even > keoki said it was the first time he could remember that a system was as good > at the end of the night as at the begining. > > No the tear gas was not pleasent - please read " a note from satellite" > > Getting your shit stolen is never nice - I assure you I did not steal it. One > must watch their stuff at all times - not all ravers care about you. > Sometimes people do not respect other peoples property which is very evident > by looking at the grafiti and stickers all over a rave space when an event is > concluded. The space is also someone else's property. Obviously, many people > have a lot to learn about respecting one another. By the way, someone stole a > $500 mixer from the second room but we take the resposibility to know that we > should have been watching it at all times. > > As far as me being a wanker.... I may very well be... however, I don't ever > remember meeting you in person and getting to know each other in order for > you to make a judgement about me. I must be a wanker for putting so much > effort into an event if no one appreciated it. Just knowing the majority of > people enjoyed it made it worth it for me. I wish everyone could feel the > same positivity about it. We are well aware of the problems that occured > (read "a note from satellite..") and we will not be discouraged and will try > even harder next time. Feel free to get to know me and make your own > judgement before you insult me in a public forum - thats not what the seen is > about! > > PLUR:) > Scott Richmond > Come on now people! you gotta give Scott and his crew credit for trowing such a kick ass party... just by looking at how many people show up at all of his parties pretty much tells you how good they always are. Another thing; At the end of the party when everyone was packing and leaving [coz of the gas] I overheard one of the NE RAVERS bitch about the party, he was saying something on the order of: Yea, when I get back on the net I'll give "THEM" a review... come one now, whoever that was, that is some nasty attitude, if you only had the balls to put a show like that together maybe then you could talk about it... Jake Melon Melon Dezign MM melon@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:43:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: what about goat? In-Reply-To: <9406170058.AA00656@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Hossam A. El-Saie" at Jun 16, 94 7:03 pm ok. a last time: diamond jubilee presents g o a t featuring scott henry jason jinx ryde greg sargent who bobble gel june 18, 1994 info line: 410.727.0919 doug ) ( dz5401a@p.a.l.a.e ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:43:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: what about goat? In-Reply-To: <9406170058.AA00656@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Hossam A. El-Saie" at Jun 16, 94 7:03 pm ok. a last time: diamond jubilee presents g o a t featuring scott henry jason jinx ryde greg sargent who bobble gel june 18, 1994 info line: 410.727.0919 doug ) ( dz5401a@p.a.l.a.e ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 21:45:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406160652.CAA12460@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Cal Eastman wrote: > the zippies are trying to unite the raver scene, the hippy scene, and > the cyber scene together...... Gee, how original. Unite the Cyber, Hippy and Raver scenes, hmm.. Anyone think of another example of this? You get a gold star on your submission if you guess right. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:03:15 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <9406170146.AA00761@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Jun 16, 94 9:45 pm > > the zippies are trying to unite the raver scene, the hippy scene, and > > the cyber scene together...... > > Gee, how original. Unite the Cyber, Hippy and Raver scenes, hmm.. Anyone > think of another example of this? You get a gold star on your submission > if you guess right. hmmm that was me, right dan? ;) doug ) ( dz5401a@whatever.edu > > Dan > > ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace > || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love > || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity > \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:33:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: after-rave reviews In-Reply-To: <199406170051.UAA22440@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Douglas Zimmerman wrote: > > > > but, when you list 20 or so people that you "remember" being at an > > event--well, that just seems to me a bit cliquish and really going > > against some rave ethics. > > > > just 2 bits o' copper lying around- > > > > jill > > unrest@wam.umd.edu > > > i don't think you understand what by doing that we're saying. > ne-ravers are like an extended family and the only time i get to see > a good many of them at a rave is during an event. I don't at the same > time however dont list people i see again that are on the net since > they arn't on here. >>ugh...i don't think you guys are really quite getting the gist of what i was saying. i am not against naming people who are important to you. but why say the specific words "net-ravers" and then only list a few. that seems to me to be exclusion of many other net-ravers who might have been at the same event. >>yes it is wonderful to know who was at what event and granted i like to mention people and be mentioned, but call it what you will- if you list 20 people's names you are bound to exclude someone somewhere...and i don't think that's cool. ok, i'm broke...no more copper lying around as of yet ;) plur- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 22:55:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: sputnik question... In-Reply-To: <199406161607.MAA15431@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 15 Jun 1994 NETMag@AOL.COM wrote: > I'm sorry you didn't like the sound system - it was the largest system ever > at an event in the north east powered by 47 1000 watt carver amps - even > keoki said it was the first time he could remember that a system was as good > at the end of the night as at the begining. "Its not the size, but what you do with it that counts" :) I felt the sound system wasnt that great - too much high end with a high potential for hearing damage. This left the bass a bit muggy. > Getting your shit stolen is never nice - I assure you I did not steal it. I didn't mean to imply that you did. Those were seperate thoughts. > concluded. The space is also someone else's property. Obviously, many people > have a lot to learn about respecting one another. By the way, someone stole a > $500 mixer from the second room but we take the resposibility to know that we > should have been watching it at all times. But it wasn't so much the fact that it was stolen, more that it caused a huge inconvenience. Im sure the loss of the mixer, though still bad, wasn't a huge inconvenience since the money made more than covered it. > As far as me being a wanker.... I may very well be... however, I don't ever > remember meeting you in person and getting to know each other in order for > you to make a judgement about me. Well okay, maybe my anger was a little misguided - let me explain why. I travelled to Poughkeepsie that night with Tina, Taylor808, and Fran. Tina, whos bag was stolen, had her car keys in the bag. Nothing in the bag was really irreplacable, but since the cars keys had gone we were now stuck. To get the spare key, we had to get a ride to the afterparty, get a ride to the train station, get the train to NYC, get the subway to Taylors apartment, then Taylor and Tina had to do the same again and get the train back to Poughkeepsie, pick up the car, and then drive all the way back to NYC. I finally got home to Delaware 1am Monday morning. I hope you can see where my frustration comes from, and I apologise for my remark. One of our group, however, did approach you and asked if you could make an announcement at the afterparty to the effect of "You can keep the bag, but please return the car keys" and they stated you were too busy to care. As for security, it seemed uneven. Though they took pens and lipsticks away, they let me in with a laser pen and didnt even bother to check what it was. Im guessing security wasnt at the door anymore when the pepper gas came in. Oh well. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 23:07:15 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Anybody like to write about.. Hey all! Well, I'm desperate again for articles in my 'zine "the Skreem". If anyone would like to contribute _anything_ art, short blurbs, poetry, quotes, scene reports (please?), whatever .. it WILL go in the zine!!! I hate to beg, but I'm desperaate (my life _is_ a soap opera =) On my knees.. Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 00:04:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 6/16/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Sorry it's late this week. But look guys and girls, this is how the ROM works: you guys pick up flyers at raves and you type them in and send them to me. I try to do this too, but I told you all that I'm very busy this summer and barely have time to check my mail much less make it out to many events. Thanks to those who have sent in info, but it irritates me when I know parties are going on, but I don't have any info on them for the ROM. Even if all you have time for is a name and an infoline, that's helpful. Also, the subscription information at the end of the file before was faulty. It's fixed now. (thanks Dan!) -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ PURPOSE: The Northeast Raves Calendar comes out every Wednesday with information on raves and events as far west as Pittsburgh and as far south as Washington, DC. I will not print info on clubs unless it is either the grand opening of a new club or guest DJ / special event info for an already existing club. I reserve the right to exclude an event from the calendar for any reason. If you would specifically *not* like your event included in the calendar for some reason, send me email telling me so. The calendar is provided as-is at no cost. SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION: Directions for subscribing and unsubscribing are at the end of this file. ADDITIONS / CORRECTIONS: Send all additions and corrections to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with the DC Raves mailing list. KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 06/17/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Ji- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/17/94 - MINIWARP @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 06/18/94 - DEEPER * (Peer) - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 06/18/94 - TERRA-X - Cleveland, OH - (216) 238 - 1451 06/24/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * (Sc- Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 06/25/94 - NATURAL RHYTHM - Upstate Maryland - (410) 523 - 1882 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 07/03/94 - MOBILE GROOVES POSSE 3 - Washington, DC - (202) 973 - 2109 07/07/94 - DAZE - Pittsburgh, PA - (???) ??? - ???? 07/16/94 - MORPH 1 - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 734 - 5549 07/29/94 - KHARMA @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 07/30/94 - OCTANE - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 734 - 1467 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 17 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Jimmy Crash, Ryde, Sun, Who _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 17 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 MINIWARP @ w/ DJs REMY UNGER AND SVEN VAN HEES (Global Cuts/R&S/Belgium) @ the Freight Yard _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 18 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 DEEPER * Guest DJ: DJ PEER (Birmingham, UK/Obsession/member of D:Ream) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 18 CLEVELAND, OH (216) 238 - 1451 TERRA-X Through the long cold winter Funky Alien Gizmos have been putting togehter an event that should prove to be the HOTTEST night in Cleveland,OH thus far Funky Alien Gizmos present Terra-X "The Arrival" Controlling the Masses Rob Black Dave Trance Micro Cleveland Caffeine-L.I. Caffeine-L.I. Boomer Sun Tony Garcia Omegeman-Definitive Records Ultraworld-Baltimore Chicago Dieselboy Wink Dreamer Pittsburgh Sorted-Philly Cleveland-Funky Alien Doors open at 10pm Lighting by Pandemonium Tickets $10 adv, $12 day of [net people will tickets for $8 if they mail] [me their address by may 13th {i'm leaving} ] [in your mail put your name and email addres] This event will take place in an all new 10,000sq ft venue in downtown cleveland and is fully permitted. Smartbar by: NRGETICS Ticket and bus trip info later next week _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, June 24 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT * DJs: Scott & Robbie Hardkiss & Dante (this will be a special night to kick off Natural Rhythm you will get a discount on your Natural Rhythm if you attend) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE MARYLAND (410) 523 - 1882 NATURAL RHYTHM Spiritual Movement "Natural Rhythem" June 25-26 in up state Maryland Line-up to include: Scott & Robbie Hardkiss Dante Micro Dave Trance Ryde Who Scott Henry Frankie Bones Jason Jinx Lieven Degeyndt 333 Wink Mgee Feelgood On-E Sun and more to be announced........ swimming pools, tennis, vollyball, basketball, and loads of outdoor fun!! info CALL 410-523-1882 to be held in the Baltimore area. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Sunday, July 3 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 973 - 2109 MOBILE GROOVES POSSE 3 _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, July 7 PITTSBURGH, PA (???) ??? - ???? DAZE THE FOOD GROUP PROUDLY PRESENTS * D A Z E * July 7 1pm - 9pm An absolutely FREE event at a reserved shelter in Schenley Park for the sole purpose of bringing together our family for a day of dancing, playing, and fun. Bring a lunch, frisbee, bubbles, and anything you want to share. (please no alcohol or glass) Dj's confirmed: Finger, Deadly Buda, X-on and more to follow. Directions in a few days. Donations thankfully accepted at party. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 16 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 734 - 5549 MORPH 1 MILLENNIUM PRESENTS M O R P H 1 the creation 9:00PM - 9:00AM vibration The Biggest, Phattest, Phunnest, 12 Hour outdoor multimedia spectacular. Confirmed outdoor unlimited capacity space. The biggest sound, light, laser and video show to date. Outdoor sculpture installations and artwork in Pittsburgh's first Morph Beat Create-A-Thon. Morph 1 will combine the talents of many individuals: promoters, artists, musicians, vendors, etc. If you are interested in getting involved in any way, please contact 412-734-5549. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, July 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 KHARMA @ Enuff with all the lazers, lighting and fashion. What about the music? An event that puts the music first and that won't bust your wallet either. DJ's: JOEY BELTRAM KEOKI SCOTT HENRY geoffe miko 10 p.m. - 6 a.m. $10 entry fee at the door night of the event. For more information/directions CALL 610 - 433 - 0503 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 30 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 734 - 1467 OCTANE F.U.E.L Productions Presents Octane Info: (412)734-1467 more info to be annouced _______________________________________________________________________________ NE-RAVES SUBSCRIPTION AND OTHER INFORMATION: To subscribe to the calendar-only list: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu, "sub ne-raves-cal" To subscribe to the discussion list: mail listserv@umdd.umd.edu, "sub ne-raves Your Name" To unsubscribe from the calendar-only list: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu, "unsub ne-raves-cal" To unsubscribe from the discussion list: mail listserv@umdd.umd.edu, "signoff ne-raves" ALL SUBSCRIPTION PROBLEMS, mail the list admin at anarchy@glue.umd.edu. To access "v-rave", a rave-oriented real-time chat system: telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 or telnet techno.stanford.edu 6000 (try only if 7283 does not respond) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "loops of funk over hardcore beats" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 00:06:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406170148.VAA23292@holmes.umd.edu> from "danFREELove" at Jun 16, 94 09:45:59 pm Dans la Matrice, danFREELove a dit: > > Gee, how original. Unite the Cyber, Hippy and Raver scenes, hmm.. Anyone > think of another example of this? You get a gold star on your submission > if you guess right. Well the hippy part i dont really see goal i must say... How many hippy do you know?? As for the cyber part, well unite cyberspace and raver and you get your typical rave with ne-ravers (or other net ravers). Labels... That's like generation X, electronic highway etc... Food for media. The less labels there will be, the better we will all feel. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 278 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3N8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 00:23:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Anyone In Montreal??? Hey Gang, Got a friend from Australia who's staying with ANOTHER friend who lives in Toronto - anyhow - this crazy Ozzie is heading Montreal and was wondering if there was anyone out there to hook up with for info on things to do - also if possible one or two nights to crash. He's mostly into exploring, base ball games and staying at Bed & Breakfast joints but if there's someone out there who can put him up briefly it would be great. He's anticipating being on the train to Montreal on Friday this week. If this feed doesn't get to the Montral area, can someone please forward it to one that does. If anyone can help, please call (05) 794 1104 and ask for Radek. Thanks... Grant -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Grant's Apothecary - where your pleasure is *our* business... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 00:28:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: camp earth looking on the ROM...camp earth in rhode island (same site as casper) on july 9th is not listed... does anyone have this flyer? if so, could you please post it, or send it to inhuman for next week's ROM? thanks. p.s. would anyone happen to have the flyer for june 25th in toronto? dj randall and mc gq will be there......anyone planning on going? -- >c a s p e r< ne breaks collective 94 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 02:10:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: EXODUS This Saturday, 18 June, come to Exodus, an outdoor outlaw/renegade rave that unites the Brooklyn, New York scene (Mental, Back To Basics, Storm, Groove Records) with the New Jersey scene (Digital Deviants, Planet X Records). This event is strictly word-of-mouth, strictly underground. Cost $5. DJs: Adam X Denard Reade Carlos/Terra Freshco Please don't ask me for directions. The map point starts after 10pm and ends at 12:30. If you are driving in, please try and fit the most people in as few cars as possible. We STRONGLY suggest you take the train in. Park your car somewhere and leave it as we do not want to attract attention to the space. call the Foundation Line for info: (718)361-3233 ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 02:42:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: ROM additions I've heard the call to duty!! woo woo!!! _____________________________________________________________________ Friday June 17 Philadelphia, PA (2 FUNKIST FUnkisT - full o'Philly Flava! freshly squeezed DJ's - Main room Sven Van Hees & Remy Unger (Global Cuts/R&S Records Belgium) Frankie HArtung (X-Cite Records DC) (Frankie he's back. woo woo!!) Scott Richman (Sputnik/NetNYC) Dave Trance (Caffine NYC) Abrazas (F.R.D./Subtopia L.I.) Spike (Planet X NJ) Nigel Richards (611 Records Philly) Mace (Rainbow Playgrounf Philly) And right off the tree (2nd flor DJ's) Kats & Tripp (No Doz) Acied Man (dark Side) MG (Swingers/Bone-Up!) Hack & Phil (Rainbow Playground) along w/The Digital Deviant;s Collective LIVE! feat. DayX1, Bahanas, DanDC & Overlord on 6 turntables and Mad Analog Machines! at the Tricadaro 10th & Arch, Philly $15 at the door 9 pm till Dawn Intelligent lighting by Apollo Visuals by Global Vision INFO Devil Line - Phhilly 215.631.2666 Subtopia - NYC - 212.431.6718 Planet X - NJ - 908.249.0304 Scooter NYC 212.479.7760 Shawn NJ 609.661.0305 Zenith Del 302.764.9272 Toothpaste Prod - Philly 215.972.7023 Xanadu Adventures - 215.592.8481 ______________________________________________________________________ Saturday June 18 BALTIMORE, MD 410.727.0919 idamond jubelee presents g o a t featuring scott henry jason jinx ryde greg sargent who bobble gel june 18, 1994 info line: 410.727.0919 _______________________________________________________________________ hmmmm....i think ill type in the rest when im more rested tommrow :) doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 03:13:12 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: Delta 3/Breathe Just letting you all know...Delta 3/Breathe will be an all nighter starting whenevr....according to the voicemail (215)631-2666. thanks, nigel ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 11:46:45 EST Reply-To: Tareq Alrashid Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Subject: Jam & Spoon...discography request Hello, I am not sure if everybody like those two as much as I do or not! But I have heard some stuff/mixes by them and I was interested in some kind of a complete listing for all the stuff that they have made which should include full albums, mixes for other people....etc. I am also interested in stuff they have done/produced individually, or even under different aliases. So if anybody can provide me with such a nice listing, that would be much appreciated. Of course my main concern here is the CD format nothing else. Please e-mail responses directly to me... tma@po.cwru.edu Thanks in advance. Peace, TAREQ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 11:13:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalie J Olkwitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalie J Olkwitz Subject: :( In-Reply-To: <199406170713.DAA25043@holmes.umd.edu> from "NigelR611@AOL.COM" at Jun 17, 94 03:13:12 am if anyone from here has written me anything sice june 6th can you please resend it ?? the evil nasty puter man here erased all of my mail cuz my box gotted too full :( thanx:) love ya all :) Hugs and Smoochies Silly little buttercup ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 12:38:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV In-Reply-To: (null) > > I think he meant the Keoki fans..... > > > > -mel KEOKI???? *sigh* :) china ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 12:51:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: vrave wow...yesterday was the first time that i have ever gone on vraves. i wasn't on it very long since i was @ my uncle's house and hence, using (hogging) his computer and phone line. it was very cool to chaotically (dang, chaos is phun:) speak with everyone. you guys make me smile... thanx snappleboy for giving me a push in that direction. hmmm. so that's where the phreaks go out at night ;) trying to wipe stoopid grins off my face- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:02:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neur0mancer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neur0mancer Subject: Re: Anybody like to write about.. In-Reply-To: <199406170312.XAA23883@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 16 Jun 1994 DJEntox@AOL.COM wrote: > Hey all! > Well, I'm desperate again for articles in my 'zine "the Skreem". If anyone > would like to contribute _anything_ art, short blurbs, poetry, quotes, scene > reports (please?), whatever .. it WILL go in the zine!!! I hate to beg, but > I'm desperaate (my life _is_ a soap opera =) > > On my knees.. > > Peace > DJ Entox > He's on his knees. . . Oh dear.... Welllll..... I suppose I could contribute if pressed.... The last event I went to was kinda small, but for New Hampshire a real step in the right direction.... It seems that maybe the NEAU parties deserve a mention in a zine that originates in (oh dear) New Hampshire =). Soooo.... I'll contribute if you like.... VIA E-Mail would be easiest... so lemme know... PeAcE, Neur0mancer::::::::::::> ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:17:44 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV I know how much some of the NE-list hate and bash Keoki but... a couple of weeks ago I went and saw him spin in Greensboro, NC. His toons were really kewl and I really enjoyed myself while he was doing his thing on the tables. Here is the really ironic part! I have heard all kinds of nasty things about how he is such a jerk, ego-maniac, blah blah blah. Turns out that I went to an after-party and was sitting next to Keoki for quite a bit. I've never seen him and didn't know I was sitting next to that so-called "super-star ego-maniac" til a week later when someone told me i had met him. :D I just thought it was some other raver guy and I never once heard anything that I felt was neagtive or nasty come from him. I just thought that i was kinda funny that I "hear" all this negative crap about him being an ass but he was actually really kewl in person. hmmmm, maybe i caught him on a bad day? :) MAYBE people just catch others on a bad day and totally slam them from then on. People can change! :) Just my .02 thrown into Ed & Eileen's piggy bank, Noj ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 13:40:16 ET Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Nolt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Nolt Subject: FAQ REQUEST please send me a faq about your list. Much 'bliged. John Nolt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:23:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sharline Chiang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sharline Chiang Subject: Women/Female RAVERS Hi this is Sharline again. I'm the one who's writing a piece on the Internet, cyberculture and Generation (blank). So far, I've received great responses. What I'm looking for though is to get more women involved in my research (90 percent of my respondents are male). I'd also like to get together with some NE-RAVERS (guys and gals) before the next event (big or small) in NYC or NJ for a brief and casual interview. I live about 5 minutes away from Central Park. ( I wouldn't try to talk to people about this at an event because it's usually too loud and I'm usually too wired. ;}) Or, if you live near New York City, you can call me to get together for an interview at your convenience. My number: 212-932-9580 Thanks go out again to all those who filled out surveys. - Sharline - ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:31:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: V-raves I wanted to know how to get on to v-rave (do i have to subscribe or something?) there never seems to be anyone on my IRC Please Help Finger ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:24:02 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: NOTES: Sputnik IV >> >> I think he meant the Keoki fans..... >> >> >> >> -mel > >KEOKI???? *sigh* :) > >china > *groan* Give me a break, China. ;) Mars ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:37:24 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: INFO: "Factory 5" Cybertribe, Friday, June 17 Caffeine presents... "FACTORY 5: The Return of the Rush" Featuring Hardcore Technologists: Frankie Bones Heather Heart K5 Einstein Q Trap Jo Jo Main Room DJs are: Micro, DNA, Dave Trance, and Sameer. For more info and directions, call: 516.242.1773 Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:32:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: INFO: Ambient Live Cybertribe, I have info here on a few parties that are upcoming that no one has yet posted about, so I'm going to send them each seperately after this one... -Mars ---------------------->%------ Wednesday, June 29 The Blunt Academy presents... AMBIENT LIVE part I featuring: PROTOTYPE 909 - acid at its finest SUB DUB with DJ's: Spooky a.k.a. Subliminal Kid Reese Soulslinger at The Cooler, 416 W. 14th St., NYC more info call 212.229.0785 Doors open at 8:00 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:53:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Keoki (and zippies and moby and promoters) One of the thangs I find interesting in this cyberculture of ours is the hightened tolerance, or lack thereof, that I fiond on the net. I've known/worked with Keoki for many years. With his success he has developed a public personna that can be a bit rough. Why would anyone confuse that with his personality. Fame is a funny thing. If you have ever been mobbed, it changes you forever. Moby is a fairley private person, IMHO. He participates in the culture in which he performs as is appropriate to that personality. The Zippies are trying create a culture independant ethos that unites what is, for them, disparate groups. Promoters are fighjting the greed and paranoia of those who own and manage public spaces, while delivering environmenbts that are conducive to those creating and those would benifit from creativity. So what's with all the flameing? Hupeople are funning higher mammals. Our present is most often given by our past. Said another way, we interpret what we see/feel from what we have seen/felt. We can, with practice, have a present given by the future. How? Just by saying so. So you might want to try this on, not like its the gospel, but just to see how it works. The next time you have somthing to say, try saying it _as you would like it to have happened_. Accuse someone of a random act of beauty PLUR virtually woof ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 14:59:12 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , TSIMPSON@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Terence Simpson Subject: Re: INFO: "Factory 5" Jo Jo is a hardcore DJ????? More like house... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:00:02 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: V-raves In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 17 Jun 94 14:31:45 -0400. <9406171837.AA17846@MIT.EDU> > I wanted to know how to get on to v-rave (do i have to subscribe or > something?) there never seems to be anyone on my IRC > Please Help > Finger for dj finger....and everyone else who doesn't know... telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 or techno.stanford.edu 6000 and follow the directions.... >c a s p e r< ne breaks collective 94 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:03:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: INFO: Fantastic Planet Cybertribe, On Saturday, July 16th, the Island Vibe Network presents "FANTASTIC PLANET." Music spirirtually provided by: Jimmy Crash, Adam X, Heather Heart, Guy DMC, Dave Trance, and Siege. Expand your mind, relax your body, release your soul in Electric Acid Room. Visually enhanced by Bauhauz Studios. With sound creators Brian Walters, Reed, Sonic, Grin, and Eintein. Call 212.780.3303 for more info and directions. Peace, mars ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:25:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , TSIMPSON@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Terence Simpson Subject: Exodus update Frankie Bones just said he would play this Saturday also.. call 718.361.3233 for info ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 15:33:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: V-raves In-Reply-To: <199406171832.OAA29390@holmes.umd.edu> finger: telnet into this address: sfraves.stanford.edu 7283 and follow instructions... hope to see yinz soon ;) brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:01:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: NEAU/TRUTH IS MENTAL IN New England A correction to my earlier post about the NEAU party next weekend at the Industry in Manchester, NH. The MENTAL crew is coming up from New York to do a party with us. This is NOT a party that you want to miss. I'm so excited!!!! :) :) :) Friday JUNE 24th Manchester, NH (617) 424 - 7183 TRUTH IS MENTAL (603) 641 - 0197 djm@progress.com N E A U A N D F O U N D A T I O N join forces to bring you TRUTH IS MENTAL in New England 10K WATTS of Bubbling Dripping ACID MENTAL Dj's: * Adam X (Groove Records) * Jimmy Crash (Direct Drive) * Heather Heart (UOS/Groove) * Carlos Tera (Spice/Mental) * Reade (Mental) Resident DJ's: * DJM (SOTTO TERRA/NEAU) * Joel (Rhythm of Acid/NEAU) Time: 2:00am - 8am Cost: $6 with this flyer $8 without DIRECTIONS: 93 North into New Hampshire and up past exit 5, after exit 5 there will be a fork, one for 93N to continue and one for 293 North, Take 293 North (this branches later also into a right exit so watch for it). Follow 293N to exit 4. At end of ramp, take a left. Look for the Industry Night Club. 865 Second Street on your right. -- ----- djm@progress.com ------------------- PH: 617-280-4474 ------------------ They knew he'd never been on || PARENTAL This album contains explicit lyrics their TV, so they passed his || ==== which may cause your children to good music by. -Joni Mitchell || ADVISORY become free thinking intellectuals. * We are BORGanized religion. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. Resistance is futile. * ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:57:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , keith.flippin@SBAONLINE.GOV Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: keith.flippin@SBAONLINE.GOV Organization: Small Business Administration Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: ne-raves-request@umdd.umd.edu SUBSCRIBE NE-RAVES Keith Flippin, WDCR 640AM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 16:57:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , keith.flippin@SBAONLINE.GOV Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: keith.flippin@SBAONLINE.GOV Organization: Small Business Administration Subject: SUBSCRIBE To: ne-raves-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu SUBSCRIBE NE-RAVES Keith Flippin, WDCR 640AM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 18:19:06 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MR DAVID G WHITEMAN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MR DAVID G WHITEMAN Subject: Re: Hi New Raver! Dj Entox said: > Hey Thumper! 'lo! Glad you used my handle. I'm borrowing a relative's Prodigy account. But now that I've got an offline reader for my real net account, look for me at thumper@ritz.mordor.com. > Welcome to ne-raves, I'm sure you'll have fun! The mail takes a little >getting used to, but in no time you'll be a netraver pro! I hope so! All I know is that I love what little I hear, and sadly that's just a 15 minute set of hardcore each week at my local club and any of the compilations I buy. I'm starting from almost nothing. > Will you be at >Sputnik 4? There'll be a big ne-raves meeting there so come and join us at >the Melon Dezigns booth around 3am or so =) I wish I'd had the chance, but by the date on my reply I'll bet you can tell I didn't make it. =:3 Once I've got some companions hooked on raves and once I've got more money to throw around you'll probably get tired of seeing me at every event! > (Sorry I don't know much >about ftp, I use AmericaOnLine so I have almost no internet knowledge. >sorry) That's no excuse anymore! AOL has full internet services now. =:3 Peace, -Thumper ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 20:57:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , e boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: e boy Subject: big smile..... hey all, i just got a letter in the mail today, :) :) :) it reads like this: KURT L. SCHMOKE, MAYOR OF THE THE CITY OF BALTIMORE, AND THE DEP'T OF RECREATION AND PARKS PARK PROPERTY USE PERMIT - CARROLL DIVISION ISSUE DATE 06/09/94 PERMIT STATUS - ACCEPTED PERMIT #940245 ______________________________________________________________________ PERMISSION IS HERBY GRANTED BY THE MAYOR OF BALTIMORE CITY, KURT L. SCHMOKE, AND THE DEPT OF REC. & PARKS TO HOLD THE FOLLOWING PUBLIC EVENT, PUBLIC ASSMEBLY, OR SOLICITATION ON RECREATION/PARKS PROPERTY. NAME/TYPE OF EVENT Sunset/Sunrise Festival (OVERNIGHT) LOCATION/AREA ;) HAHA STILL A SECRET! NUMBER EXPECTED PARTICIPANTS: 25 SPECTATORS: 800 EVENT DATE & TIME INFORMATION: ACTUAL EVENT: STARTING 7/23/94 AT 21:00 PM ENDING 7/24/94 AT 8:00 AM EQUIPMENT TO BE USED: PA SYSTEM, DJ EQUIPMENT, PLATFORM RISER (8 X 8), LIGHTING, CONTROL BOARD, SCREENS, FENCING, SPOT-A-POTS AUTHORIZED BY: MARLYN J. PERRITT, DIR., RECREATION & PARKS _________________________________________________________________________ Do you all realize what this means?! We just got official permission from the mayor of baltimore to have this rave at a city park! needless to say, screw rave the bay 2! the event will still be saturday july 23, the dj lineup is being confirmed, the party is being named, and all of the sudden, shit just got crazy! oh, i do know we have dj duke! so look for that to be happining, and i just got back today from the state park where we will be raving on september 10 (maybe with deelite and the orb!), and all i can say is it makes the place where we did wild look like a landfill! oh and, i just got shown a FAT warehouse that will be available for halloween from a guy who will definitely rent it to us! so whoomp, there it is. peace ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 22:51:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: Hi New Raver! In-Reply-To: <199406172234.SAA02300@holmes.umd.edu> >That's no excuse anymore! AOL has full internet services now. =:3 Wait..can they telnet into vrave??? My family back home has AOL and I wanted to my brother on... more info pleazze? thanks, brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:16:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Explanation of the HOM This is what I'll mail to people from now on if they mail me asking The HOM stands for Hookup-O-Matic When: The list is posted Sunday nights and Wed nights. [more if needed] Purpose: To let others know which event you'll be at Allows them to mail you ahead of time to possibly meet up Might help choose which event to go to depending on if people you'd like to see will be there Gives more excitement to upcoming events Planning pre-parties Once enough people say they'll be at another event, someone might plan a pre-party or after-party, if so, it will say so by their login and you can mail them for more information if you're interested Finding crash space If you'll want a place to crash before your drive back, ravers in the area are usually more than happy to allow you to stay over at their places Getting Rides Finding people with available space in their car allows you to arrange a ride for yourself [with the help of the list] Supporting you net friends The list will name if the person is spinning, promoting, running smart bar etc... you can help support your net friends by possibly choosing to attend those events Mail: Mail melzie@wam.umd.edu with your information to be placed on te list Information needed: Login Other Aliases Real name Address [Phone number if you won't be near a computer] If you need or can offer a ride and and for how many If you need or can offer crash space and for how many If you're doing anything for the event If you'd like to have a pre or after party So hopefully now you know the point of the HOM, I think it's great for helping to make/keep us more of a fmily and community than a bunch of seperate net-people, if you know what I mean. No, I don't think that's cliquish. So please mail in your HOM info..we've got 4 major events coming up and the sooner the better :) Love ya! Mel aka The Hazel-Eyed Kitten exactly what the HOM is.... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:09:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: terra-x moved to july 9th! Sorry that this is so late, but we just wan to let you know that the party was moved from tomorrow, june 18, to july 9th, due to unforseen circumstances. all thedj's are still on, and it should prove to be a very good party.Just wanted to let you know. thanks, mikebee(and hossam) :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:31:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: What did DJs do before techno was around? The subject line pretty much sums up my question. Before techno broke here in the USA, what did the current crop of DJs do for a living? I know Frankie Bones played house and cut some records, but did the other disc jockeys do the same thing? I mean, when was Groove Records founded, what did Adam X, Heather et al do in the late 80s? Or another thought: How did these DJs become so well known? Did they have a good agent, or were they in the right place at the right time? This sounds like a question for our rave historians out there. By the way, after seeing Depeche Mode tonight, I found the following advertisement in the concert guide, courtesy of Minute Maid: Is rave better than rap? Is world beat better than grunge? Is house better than speed metal? Is techno better than thrash? Is disco better than anything? Is The Grape Beyond better than Citrus Consciousness? I just found this amusing. Virtually yours, Bob "I prefer Jolt cola" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 00:56:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Hi New Raver! In-Reply-To: <199406180253.WAA04712@holmes.umd.edu> Brian writes from the fair state of Pennsylvania: >DATE: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 22:51:57 -0400 >FROM: Brian O. Bozarth > >>That's no excuse anymore! AOL has full internet services now. =:3 > >Wait..can they telnet into vrave??? > >My family back home has AOL and I wanted to my brother on... >more info pleazze? Actually, not quite. They have access to Usenet, minimal gopher capability, and e-mail. I just tried to access their "expert connection" section, and nothing fancy (i.e. telnet) is working. Virtually yours, Bob "AOL sucks" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 03:11:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: DAZE DAZE - Pittsburgh, PA July 7th 1pm-9pm FREEeee! Confirmed Dj's - Finger, Deadly Buda, X-on, and more to follow Directions-(if these are totally foriegn to you then e-mail me or call up the info line and we'll get you better directions.) Follow the Blvd. of the Allies east into Oakland. Cross over bridge into park. Bear to the right and follow road. Pass Vietnam Veterans shelter. Go to top of hill and park. The name of the shelter is Camp David but for some reason it's not marked. Follow your ears! =) info line 412-734-8458 Bring a lunch and stuff to do (frisbee, bubbles, etc.) No alcohol or glass!! Thanks and Peace, FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:46:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Harry Duran Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Harry Duran Subject: why I didnt go to Sputnik Hello Cybertribe Chaz and I will be moving to join the mtnraves community on Monday. We expect to arrive in Albuquerque on June 24. New address is 4801 san Mateo Ln. #373 Alby 87109 I will miss all of my friends and acquaintances in the neraves community and it was great to see some of you at the sputnik prepicnic which sounds like the real place where PLUR was to be had. Now...as some of you know the queer contingent and friends present at the picnic elected to go to the Sound Factory insteaqd of Sputnik IV. Why would ravers choose to go to a FABULOUS NYC dance club instead of a rave you may ask? Well first of all economics A bigger bang to buck ratio was to be had at the SF judging from all the Sputnik reviews 1- no trip to EAST JESUS or BUM F!@#ED EGYPT 2-20 dollar cover charge 3-low hassle security who only inspect for weapons and liquor and treat the cust omers with respect 4-consistently good house music spun by the legendary Junior Vasquez... 5-great lights what can I say except 6-great sound system 7-consistently good high quality X-travaganza...you know what I mean.. psychedelicious 8-a truly mixed and diverse crowd 9-and great friends Eric (eric/eric of Vrave) PhilZ WillE Dominique John and a host on anonymous beautiful men and women upon which to gaze in various states of altered consciousness. This club is IMO the sort of tolerant and diverse vibe that raves could aspire to. Unlike the $lime, USA etc this place is truly for serious dancers and those who intend to have a great time. The hassles with security at sputnik was predictable In fact a number of us predicted a line to get in and confiscation of personal property and being treated like shite by security. That was my primary deterrent to going. I work to hard for my money to blithely fork it over to some promoter who has lacked the foresight to realize security hassels of that nature would occur. Regarding the famous drag queen/ pepper gas incident: if it is true that the drag queens were hassled and responed by acting in defense by spraying peppert gas then it speaks poorly of PLUR at Sp[utnik. No body should be hassled at raves for being who they are as long as they respect others. And fights as well? not to gloat but there were no fights at Juniors Housxe Party. The only raves in recent memory that Ive been to that had vibe were in Philadelphia Delta and Kickin. The Philly scene seems to have a more cohesive and PLUR core. The NYC scene is washed up IMO, killed by the promoters RIP NYC Rave Scene. Finally I dont believe for one minute the party line about Remy and Sven having the wrong documentation and unable to make it. If you believe that one I have a bridge Id like to lease you for your next rave....hee heee The only parties worth their salt in NYC are renegades. Like who needs to be herded around like cattle, fleeced of their money, felt up hassled and have their personal effects taken by security to have a lousy sound system, fights , pepper gas, and european DJs who dont show. It sounds like the netpeople were the only worthwhile reason to go. Sorry to come on so strong but I want to say before I leave the area that the promoters are killing the scene and for all the hassles to get to the rave and general lack of vibe, economically speaking wouldnt it be just as fun to go to the $limelight? Just some last thoughts..I love you all Harry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 09:40:13 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406170148.VAA23292@holmes.umd.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Jun 16, 94 9:45 pm > > On Thu, 16 Jun 1994, Cal Eastman wrote: > > > the zippies are trying to unite the raver scene, the hippy scene, and > > the cyber scene together...... > > Gee, how original. Unite the Cyber, Hippy and Raver scenes, hmm.. Anyone > think of another example of this? You get a gold star on your submission > if you guess right. > > Dan > > ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace > || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love > || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity > \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect > dan- do you know the zippies? they arre not just attempting but succedd ing in london.. megatripplaiss is HOT in england... and their perties here atrract teh like of terence mkenna, tim leary, donmeinhousen, dana beale, matthew hupert, bobby faust, high times, neuronautic institute, villiage voice, wired, bruce sterling,etcetcetcetc working with these guys gave me a sense of forward motion in the greater "consciousness community" that i have not felt in many many years..... check it out... you might be fired up..... peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:09:37 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: Women/Female RAVERS In-Reply-To: <199406171824.OAA29277@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Sharline Chiang" at Jun 17, 94 2:23 pm sharleen- my name is matthew... im 33 yrs old, and thius not your typical "raver" if u wanna talk, let me know peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:45:14 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: why I didnt go to Sputnik In-Reply-To: <199406181347.JAA06911@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 18 Jun 1994, Harry Duran wrote: > The only raves in recent memory that Ive been to that had vibe were in > Philadelphia Delta and Kickin. The Philly scene seems to have a more > cohesive and PLUR core. The NYC scene is washed up IMO, killed by the > promoters RIP NYC Rave Scene. Hey, as the saying goes, "You've got a friend in Pennsylvania". Me thinks the two most vibey scenes this year will be Philly and Pittsburgh. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 10:57:04 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406181350.JAA06933@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 18 Jun 1994, Cal Eastman wrote: > dan- do you know the zippies? > they arre not just attempting but succedd ing in london.. > megatripplaiss is HOT in england... and their perties here atrract teh > like of terence mkenna, tim leary, donmeinhousen, dana beale, matthew > hupert, bobby faust, high times, neuronautic institute, villiage > voice, wired, bruce sterling,etcetcetcetc > working with these guys gave me a sense of forward motion in the > greater "consciousness community" that i have not felt in many many > years..... > check it out... you might be fired up..... > peace Its so easy to get caught up in the hype ain't it? If these Zippies were so great then why hasn't anyone on the breaks list in London heard of them? I think this is the stupidest thing I've heard of in the scene in a long time. I can see this small pack of Brits saying "lets go to America and fool the media into thinking we're a new movemen/british invasion". As someone on alt.rave said, "I think it is the poorest excuse for a 'movement' I've ever seen." Maybe I'm missing something somewhere but it is just plain dumb. Why is it we are always looking outside for something that we have here? Why is it every message I see that talks about the zippies makes them appear as some alien/new-age beings here to show us the "light"? Why is it every message is filled with newagetechnopychedeliamediahypababble? Who cares about Terrance McKenna? And haven't we been "uniting the the cyber people and the raver people" for nearly 2 1/2 Years here? I think I'm not alone in saying once and for all: "ZIPPIES GO HOME!" Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 11:19:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neur0mancer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neur0mancer Subject: Re: V-raves In-Reply-To: <199406171832.OAA29390@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 17 Jun 1994, finger wrote: > I wanted to know how to get on to v-rave (do i have to subscribe or > something?) there never seems to be anyone on my IRC > Please Help > Finger > All you need to do is type the following: telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 or telnet techno.stanford.edu 6000 Just follow instructions after that and soon you'll be a V-Rave Wizard =) Peace... Neur0mancer ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 12:05:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Tonight If sanyone wants to head over to Delta/Breathe tonight from DC/Baltimore I'll be a happy passenger! :) HUGZ!!!! Melzie-Kins ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 12:37:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: Re: ZIPPIES....*snore* > dan- do you know the zippies? > they arre not just attempting but succedd ing in london.. > megatripplaiss is HOT in england... and their perties here atrract teh > like of terence mkenna, tim leary, donmeinhousen, dana beale, matthew > hupert, bobby faust, high times, neuronautic institute, villiage > voice, wired, bruce sterling,etcetcetcetc > working with these guys gave me a sense of forward motion in the > greater "consciousness community" that i have not felt in many many > years..... > check it out... you might be fired up..... oh, puh-leeeeze! if you ask me, this whole zippy thing is a really poor attempt as a movement (if it really is one) personally, i don't care if terrence mckenna falls off the nearest bridge, and the fact that he (or any of the people you listed, for that matter) supports this whole "zippy" thing is not exActly gonna convince THIS little cynical jersey boy ;) i mean, it just seems like such a crock of hype....that these wonderous tribal people will come to america and save us from our collective "deep sleep" by showing us the path to true enlightenment. seriously...if the zippies DO exist (other than in the minds of tim leary, mckenna, ofr anyone else who despritly wants some sort of sixties-throwback social movement), i'm sure they are just a bunch of people who get together to throw parties sound familiar? i havent heard one thing about the zippies that can't be applied to OUR \ little scene, right here...combining the rAvers with computer technology? well, you are reading this, arent you? i guess it sort of annoys me when we have to look on these "zippies" as sort of a collective saviour to all us hopeless americans. look around you- theres nothing that the zippies offer that we dont have (or arent capable of doing) ourselves. think about this question for a moment: WHY exactly should we take the zippies seriously? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + + + "we are the music makers, and WE are the dreamers of the dream...." + + + + jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu + + + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:12:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: why I didnt go to Sputnik In-Reply-To: <199406181347.JAA06911@holmes.umd.edu> even though i only met you at the picnic, for some reason or other i think i'm going to miss you when you move. good luck to you! take care. big hugs- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:30:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: Women/Female RAVERS In-Reply-To: <199406171824.OAA29277@holmes.umd.edu> hi. i'm a woman and i live in rockland county new york. i'd be willing to come into manhattan if you want to get together. i didn't answer you the first time around because i don't know exactly what you are looking for and if i am the best person to be asking it of :) um...i'm 19 and i go to school in maryland. i'm new to computers--in fact you could call me an amateur and you wouldn't be lying. as far as techno goes...it's been in me for a bit, i guess. let me know whether or not you need me. smiles- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:50:31 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bertille Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Joesph W. D'Agostino" Subject: Re: Hi New Raver! Thank you for the most gracious friendly welcome typical ofthe rave community. I absolutly E-cstatic to see all this rave activity on the net. A teeth chattering hello, Bertille@aol.com aka Joe Dag ocNJ. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 13:52:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: who's going to delta 3/breathe tonight? hey, if anyone is trekking up for delta 3 tonight, search me out cause i will be there :) theres also a small chance ill be spinning, as well. and, if it is held in this sweet space that i found, i can offer crash space (my house is 10 min away from this possible site...maybe 15) jason/method one (609) 863-0356 if you want to meet up beforehand or something ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 14:37:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: delta 3 hey, what's going on with this delta 3 (who's playing, what time is it, etc) i'm thinking about going but i'm from pittsburgh and need to get some people together FAST to help pay for gas. Thank U & U & u Finger ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 15:23:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Mr. Blobby Next week! Wendsday! June 22nd! Larry King! CNN! Mr. Blobby! Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 16:28:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN Cal wrote: > dan- do you know the zippies? I know some of them through friends of friends from when I lived in the UK >they arre not just attempting but succedd ing in london.. >megatripplaiss is HOT in england... uh, the zippies are not employed by megatripolis. I have friends who DJ & organize Megatripolis. the zippies are riding on the success the club has recieved. zippies might have helped "conceive" it but it's not their club. >and their perties here atrract teh like of ... [list of names deleted] too much press hype & propoganda. What they have to say is pretty cool, I agree with what they're saying but at their press conference, I just got the impression that they were trying to make money on this. They've admitted that they're not into this for the music but for the philosophy. Thanks but I don't need to buy any else's philosophy. I've got my own. :) >working with these guys gave me a sense of forward motion in the >greater "consciousness community" that i have not felt in many many years..... that's good - a lot of their messages are spot on but take from it what you can and then move on. Make your own analysis/interpretation of the whole experience and see how it relates to your life, see what it actually means to you. My point is, stay critical and don't blindly absorb. just my virtual $0.02 for Ed & Eileen's wedding fund :) ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:38:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: samgoody dang...i went to sam goody for some gosh for saken reason...oh yeah, i found a coupon. so anyway, i picked up yokota's disc the frankfurt-tokyo connection on harthouse/planet earth recordings. it's kinda nice. the clincher though for going to this particular store was that they have a magazine that's free. and, who woulda thunk it...richard james is on the cover. and there are articles within the publication about milwaukie (sp?) and just silly stuph i guess. dang...they say that techno isn't revolutionary. well, at least i got a decent recording- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 17:45:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: exodus just curious if anyone will be attending exodus. i'm debating going :) provided that it's not too humid out and i go, i shall be wearing red pants...so say hello to me, hang out, whatever... i might be trekking to this event alone.. if i'm not wearing the red pants i shall put some kind of sticker on me saying ne-raves (i don't have a badge just yet:) l8tr- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 18:27:19 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: ONCE AGAIN!! TERRA X IS JULY 9 NOT TONITE! just hope this isnt too late...i would hate it if someone travelled to this party only to find out its been moved to jul 9.... *hoping for the best* peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 19:14:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: samgoody In-Reply-To: <199406182138.RAA09017@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 18 Jun 1994, jill wrote: > the clincher though for going to this particular store was that they have > a magazine that's free. and, who woulda thunk it...richard james is on > the cover. and there are articles within the publication about milwaukie > (sp?) and just silly stuph i guess. dang...they say that techno isn't > revolutionary. the magazine is called 'request' and the guy who wrote the milwaukee scene article is david prince of chicago's 'reactor' zine. the same guy who danced naked atop the infamous DBN wall of sound at the [three day] FURTHTUR event [april 28-may 01] put on by reactor/drop bass network/minneapolis more. much respect, jill. nice disc, too. :] mark ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 20:42:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: What did DJs do before tech.. Bob wondered: > what did the current crop of DJs do for a living? I >know Frankie Bones played house and cut some records, but did >the other >disc jockeys do the same thing? I mean, when was Groove >Records >founded, what did Adam X, Heather et al do in the late 80s? Well, I know Heather was really into hardcore punk, and collected hundereds of punk 7" (just like she does noe with techno 12".. hm..) A _lot_ of people spun either house or hip hop. I know Rob Gee spun hip hop back in the dayz and Lenny Dee spun hiphop and house (!) I forget when Groove was started, I think 1990. Adam X probably started Dj-ing because of his brother Frankie (you know, while Frankie slept, Adam crept downstairs and mixed it up for hours on end! =) I don't think anyone really pressed any stuff of their own.. I'm not sure though.. Pondering his own history.. DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 20:45:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Techno chat on AOL tonight! Hey all AOL-ers, I'll be doing a techno chat room in the people connection from around 1am to who knows, so come join! Look for the "Chill out room" (Or any room that sounds techno-y in case I change the name) See you there! DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 20:47:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "hydrogen.glow" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: "hydrogen.glow" Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: SETI (+ notes) hey all.. it looks as tho my new project SETI is about to hit stores (if it already hasn't)... for those of you who don't know about it.. it's an ambient collaboration between myself and my friend savvas (Instinct's OMICRON).. the project is based on a story by author madison blue, a short story appears inside the cd booklet... the project is really minimal ambience..recorded as one song (60 mins.).. thru many changes... if you hear it.. don't judge any of it by any one part.. it goes thru a dozen or so movements... however... THE MASTERING PLANT FUCKED UP!!!! the DAT master for the album had IDs written at various sections... meaning.. that although the album is just one song.. the song was broken down into segments (not with audio breaks tho) with separate cd "tracks".. giving the listener and DJ the opportunity to go to any one particular part... however, the mastering people didn't put these IDs on the cd !!! i popped it in my player last night to find just ONE id/track.. so.. i apologize for the inconvenience for those of you who buy it... it's a shitty mistake on their part.. but, fortunately it doens't affect the music or how it's "supposed" to be listen to. if you pick it up..let me know what you think. other notes: the debut OMICRON release "acrocosm" will be out soon... for those of you who bought his first little ep "symbolis".. this is VERy different... it's an ambient/weirdness album..and, in my opinion one of the coolest, most original full lenghts i've heard in a while.. no filler..really cool.. to note, it's very synthetic and un-earthly.. ie: no birds or "recognizable" sounds.. Terre Thaemlitz's album comes out the same time as omicron... many of you know terre and his sort of avant garde/experimental brilliance.. well.. before i sound too much like an advertisement... peacelove >>taylor ................................ (808) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 20:59:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: NEAU/TRUTH IS MENTAL... Yes!!! For once, I love living in NH (this is rare everybody!) EVERYONE must go to this, I DEFINETLY will, no matter what extremes I have to go to.. How I love NH (ugh.. I never thought I'd say that..) Everyone, please go and support the scene here, please??? Peace! DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 02:35:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: squishy every day yet another mailing list... the Squishy mailing list is now operational and has its first 3? 4? subscribers. it is a mailing list for discussion of all things squishy, and it would be in your best interest to subscribe. believe me. to subscribe, send mail to majordomo@world.std.com and put "subscribe squishy" in the BODY of the message. no subject header is needed. you will receive further information and instructions after that. and remember, act inconspicuous... chris .-'~~~-.tojointhenewSquishymailinglistsendamessagetomajordomo we cause .'o oOOOo`.@world.std.comandputonlysubscribesquishyinthebodyof pronoina :~~~-.oOo o`.themessageasubjectisnotneccesaryfurtherinstructio `. \ ~-. oOOo.nswillcomeafteryouhavesubscribedtransmissionout. `.; / ~. OO: .......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' this'll stop ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow them shakes. ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple ___\\;_\\//_______ WWW: httl://bazaar.com/cmellow.hmtl fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 03:43:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jonathan Kadish Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jonathan Kadish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: INFO: Fantastic Planet In-Reply-To: <199406171903.PAA29848@holmes.umd.edu> Just a quick note to point out an error reade is how yu spell reade's name ;) CAT(purrrrrrrrr) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 04:22:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , edward luna Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: edward luna Subject: ele ment: call for submissions READ AND REPLY ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPDATE:18 JUN 1994 NE-RAVES@UMDD e l e m e n t: step 1 OK folks, stuff is starting to roll. We've received some submissions for our free bi-monthly journal/magazine (net version and real physical paper), step 1 due to come out at the beginning of July, but WE WANT MORE!!!!!!!!!! We want you to be a part of it!!!!! We know you're out there.... This is a sum up and update of what's up, with some technical specs. If you read our first post you should know what kind of stuff we're looking for but we will sum up here: *ele ment* is an attempt to bridge the gap between disciplines as far- ranging as Detroit tekno, computer-aided design, John Waters movies, skateboarding, and post-constructivist architecture (these are just a few examples, among many). It is a dialog between all the shit we're trying to get together, from San Fran to London, all around and in between. It's about everything: what we're doing, what we're seeing, what we're thinking. It's about the past, too, and how we can learn from it in the face of the new millenium. Submissions can be ANYTHING legibly written or typed, on any subject, or any theme. It could be a review of your favorite record from 6 months ago or 60 years ago. It could be a cool anthropology paper you wrote last quarter. It can be a poem, a photo, a CAD design, an editorial, a diatribe, a letter, and so on. All we ask is that you keep a couple of things in mind while considering what to give us. 1) We plan to distribute nationally, in a selective manner such as Camera Work in the 1900s or Emigre today (1000-1500 copies). It's going to look very nice! We're using decent paper (slightly off-white stock) with ring-binders (trust us, these look good and they are very distinctive). This will be "coffee-table" material, or close to it, so we want quality material that takes a world-wide perspective if possible. For example, a friend of ours in Nashville wanted to write something about his dance/rave (hate that word) scene. We suggested he do something like write it from the perspective of someone explaining the trials and tribulations of trying to get that type of scene off the ground (as opposed to just saying "Nashvlle sucks!"). We also scoured some women's studies classes to get the female perspective known (there seems to be an unequal balance of men on the electronic airwaves...). Top ten lists should be avoided, unless they're informative. If you can make one like "my 10 faves of the last 6 months and WHY" that would be much better than just a list with no descriptions or anything (notice that the WHY is what we're more interested in). 2) We want crazy amounts of diversity, in text and design. It's your opportunity to "design your own page." Here's what's been decided on that subject: -page size is 7.5 x 10 inches vertical. -radical is good (think Dada, Starn twins, or the new Creem...) -text or written entries that have not been pre-designed will be distributed to other designers we know, or sometimes one of us (depends who wants it!) -the only linking element besides maybe a "key" approach to the reviews section (ie lump all reviews together and identify by a key code) will be a small logo on the bottom of each page, unless your submission specifies otherwise. -you have the option of telling us NOT to proofread your piece, if your interest is in making anal grammarians cringe. -we'll print nearly all the submissions we get (unless they totally ignore what we've said so far) so your chances of getting in with the minimum of interference from us is like 90.25% or something. ADVERTISING: We're trying to keep this minimal, to keep things clean and uncluttered, but we will consider an ad if we can see it or talk to you first. This being our 1st step we are offering dirt cheap prices, to cover our costs a bit. -1/4 page is $15.00, 1/2 page is $30.00, full page is $60.00. -remember that the page size is 7.5 x 10 inches vertical. THAT'S IT! Pretty simple recipe, actually. This mag is really made by YOU, with us here to help corall things into a nice package. It may look hodgey-podgey in the end, but that's OK--because, if you look at us and the variety of our situations and influences, we look pretty hodgey-podgey ourselves. LAST LAST LAST DEADLINE is JUN 28 1994!!!!!!!!!!! APOLOGY ON THE SHORT NOTICE, BUT... We posted this on MWRaves a while ago, while forgetting everyone else. If you cannot get a submission to us on time send it anyway. We'll put it in step 1 if we can, or wait and put it in step 2 in September. It's up to YOU to make this happen. hope to hear from you soon, ++ *the ele mental collective* >eluna+@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu >sines.3@osu.edu or if necessary: nbelcher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu mcjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu aramos@cis.ohio-state.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 04:22:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Subject: WOnder Twins? So, I called the Primary info line to see if there was anything going on tonight and found out about this party called "Acolyte 1". Outdoors, FREE, and in Rhode Island.. 2 hours drive. So I load up my car with 3 friends, call the info line, get directions to where we are supposed to meet the "map person" (is this a treasure hunt?) and head out.. We get to the meeting spot at 1.40 am, the guy is supposed to be there till 2 am. NOBODY there. We hang out for a few minutes and 4 or 5 carloads of RI ravers (much respect to you, guys) show up.. We wait till 2.15 am, no map guy, and the cops show up, so we all take off and go home.. WHO are the wonder twins, and why did i drive for four hours to sit in a parking lot waiting for a map that wasn't there? Last time i go to one of *their* events.. Anyone know anything about them? If anyone's in touch with Primary, i'd appreciate this stroy being passed to them, so they can decide if they want to put these "events" on their line.. :( Thanks, ian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ian - shredder@ai.mit.edu "Wulla wulla, a special request" Boston Rave Kru '94 - Hepped up on goofballs and ready to go! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 04:25:29 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Subject: NEAU/TRUTH IS MENTAL... In-Reply-To: DJEntox@aol.com's message of Sat, 18 Jun 1994 20:59:41 EDT <9406190059.AB00945@life.ai.mit.edu> Yes!!! For once, I love living in NH (this is rare everybody!) EVERYONE must go to this, I DEFINETLY will, no matter what extremes I have to go to.. How I love NH (ugh.. I never thought I'd say that..) Everyone, please go and support the scene here, please??? I'll be there with the Concord, MA crew.. we're pretty hyped up to be going, nothing much good has been going on what with the Wonder Twins fiasco and Sputnik fascist security.. See you there, we should figure out some way to tell who everyone is.. MUCH respect to NEAU for the parties they throw. :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ian - shredder@ai.mit.edu "Wulla wulla, a special request" Boston Rave Kru '94 - Hepped up on goofballs and ready to go! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 10:41:41 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: ; from "Joe LeSesne" at Jun 18, 94 10:57 am joew- the point is NOT to replace what we have here.. nor is the point that the zippies atre any better or their scene any hipper- the point is UNITY.. the point is ont that we "uniting the the cyber people and the raver people" for nearly 2 1/2 Years here?" but they are AS WELL.. and as such are part of us, and we are part of them. ITs not that i glorify the zippies, as i welcome them as brothers, and appreciste that they have tied together dispoarate elements of a scene that is far larger than just the ravers. Here we havevery few older people involved in the scene... every rave is mostly people 20 and younger. We need (the planet needs) forward trhinking people before it collapsses in on itself (the scene and the world) Personally speaking (the only way i can speak) Ive been involved ewith the consciousness revolution directly for some 18 or 20 years, and indirectly for probably 25. Ive seen the roads we've taken, and how our paths have shifted. Ravers are not the first, nor will they be the last word in alternitive cultures involved in trance/dance, redefining community, peace and freedom as lifestyle, psychadelic exploration,etcetcetc. Perhaps none of this interests you, which is all well and good your designation of it all as "newagetechnopychedeliamediahypababble" certainly implies as much. But I and many people i know of all ages and interests do not feel this way. At the zippie party i saw people from every corner of alternative society there- i saw libertarians, pagans, people from the harvard group and millbrook,ravers and dj's, writers, painters, musicians of EVERY type of music, witches, atheists, radical catholics, hippies, hackers, journalists,political radicals, poloitical apathists, freaks, geeks, philosophers, hangers on, and just plain folk, all grooving together, sometimes agreeing, sometimes not, but all involved in a powerful group dynamic that transcended raver clique vibes. People like terrance mckenna, who you handily dismiss, are important to ouyr scene, because they are thinkers, writers, and doers, who are not afraid to publish the books that lose them their professorial posts, and the respect of established society. WItjhout conceptual revolutionaries like mckenna, leary, wilson,etc there never would have been a rave scene. and people would still be trying to peddle father knows best shit on us. I felt a spark, stronger that id felt in a very long long time, of a fruitful mix of people, uniting towards a common goal. To me thats importatnt, and something ive missed for a while. if you, joe, dont get turned on to it, and prefer to dance and evolve personally, without reference to the larger happening, that is your right, and your joy, and i wouldnt dream of trying to tell you to do any differntly. However i remain hopeful, we as a whole, not just teh ravers, not just teh hippies, not just the cybertribe, but all of us need focal points so we can explore, together, what the next step is. Not as americans, nor as brits, not as hardcore fanatics, or ambiant acidheads, but as human beings involved consciously in teh process of evolution,- personal, social, and global. peaceout -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:01:23 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406182027.QAA08759@holmes.umd.edu>; from "WILL-E" at Jun 18, 94 4:28 pm >too much press hype & propoganda. What they have to say is pretty cool, I >agree with what they're saying but at their press conference, I just got >the impression that they were trying to make money on this. They've >admitted that they're not into this for the music but for the philosophy. .... >that's good - a lot of their messages are spot on but take from it what yo >can and then move on. Make your own analysis/interpretation of the whole >experience and see how it relates to your life, see what it actually means >to you. My point is, stay critical and don't blindly absorb. will - i couldnt agree with you more....except that they are losing money at every stop here in america, know they are going to lose more money, and are conti uing on anyway. personally im also into the philosophy, and i have my own. Im not a follower, nor to i think anyone ought to be a follower, of ANYTHING. This sort of philosophhy has been part of my life long before the first techno was cut, and may be long after the last "rave" is just a long gone memory. Its not a matter od prostelitysing and seeling their philosophy, as gathering together like minded poeple on both sides of the atlantic. All philosophy is only usful to test your own ideas against, to take what works for you, and throw away the chaff. That does not mean its not legitimate to read otehr's philosophies, indeed its importatnt, brecaudse it keeps your ideas fresh, instead of tenets of faith. -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:06:39 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: re zippies et al.... I think someone (many someone) mistook what i emant about the zippes. DO NOT HAIL THEM AS SAVIOURS DO NOT THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT?HIGHER?BETTER? THAN ANYONE ELSE DO NOT THINK THEY ARE SPECIAL AND THEIR SCENE IS BETTER welcome them as fellow travelers, heading down the same highway we are peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 11:53:17 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: re zippies et al.... In-Reply-To: <199406191517.LAA11392@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, Cal Eastman wrote: > I think someone (many someone) mistook what i emant about the zippes. > DO NOT HAIL THEM AS SAVIOURS > DO NOT THINK THEY ARE DIFFERENT?HIGHER?BETTER? THAN ANYONE ELSE > DO NOT THINK THEY ARE SPECIAL AND THEIR SCENE IS BETTER Please stop yelling..... Perhaps you don't. I think what we are refering to is not HOW YOU view them but how they portay themselves: Hipper-than-though, more global, more forward thinking, saviors (remmember they want to "Wake America up."), different (because they embrace technologu and raving, big deal), etc. to me it is a bunch of new age crap thought up by some 30 somethings to make a buck ioff of OUR scene. There is a reason that most of the scene is made up of people 15-25, because we STARTED it, not the hippies or 60's guru's who are now again comming out of the woodwork. I don't think we need them or anyone else to tell us what to do with "our collective conciousness", we've managed just nicely up til now. All of a sudden we are portayed as not hip enough, not forward thinking enough, etc and that is a load of crap. I think most of us on this list agree that the Zippy "movement" looks little more than a movement to get media hype as being the new British Invasion. And Pronia: there ain't no such word, they invented. People conspiring to help you? That is the silliest thing I've ever heard. I'm sorry I'm not a bandwagon jumper but I guess I won't be one of those people at the end of the decade who believes that some big catastrophe is going to happen, OR something wonderous will. I'm not fond of people that tell me how to think and percieve things, I guess that's why cults don't appeal to me. > welcome them as fellow travelers, heading down the same highway we are So long as they don't try to force their "philosophy" on me I do welcome them. Otherwise they can take a slow plane back 'cross the pond. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 12:19:18 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: re zippies et al.... In-Reply-To: <199406191553.LAA11547@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > And Pronia: there ain't no such word, they invented. People conspiring to > help you? That is the silliest thing I've ever heard. I'm sorry I'm not a > bandwagon jumper but I guess I won't be one of those people at the end of > the decade who believes that some big catastrophe is going to happen, OR > something wonderous will. I'm not fond of people that tell me how to > think and percieve things, I guess that's why cults don't appeal to me. maybe there's no word "pronia" but there's "pronoia". i've seen it used quite a few places. and just because someone is telling you what they think, it doesn't mean they're telling you to think the same way. maybe some people have information that i don't that makes them believe that the zippies (whoever they collectivly are) are just some band of brits trying to make money off of this, but i just see them as some people who got some media coverage. big deal. so what if they come to america and get some people interested in the same thing?? is it going to be bad? personally, i could care less about what the next huge fad to grip america is, but if i had a hand in it, i'd rather have it be thousands of kids wanting to be zippies than thousands of kids wanting to be something less possitive. > So long as they don't try to force their "philosophy" on me I do welcome > them. Otherwise they can take a slow plane back 'cross the pond. i really don't see why you seem so sure that the zippy philosophies (again, whatever they are) are being forced upon you. so what if they're ex-hippies, so what if they have been coming out of the woodwork, as you say in your previous post. i really don't think they're trying to say that they created the scene that we happen to be involved with (the rave scene). i really don't know how to end this, because i have so much more to say, but whatever. chris .-'~~~-. we cause .'o oOOOo`. pronoia :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: .......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' this'll stop ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow them shakes. ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple ___\\;_\\//_______ WWW: http://bazaar.com/cmellow.hmtl fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 14:20:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Re: ele ment: call for submissions In-Reply-To: (null) Agh...i just got this...this sounds great and from what I know of Todd Design is should look fantastic...Emigre is a phenomenal work and anything that uses that as a design *influence* is on the right path. I have some stuff that I would like to submit, but it is tangible...so I need and address to send it to...okay...replay fast so I can get it there by the deadline.... china p.s. *wave* hi todd! :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 15:20:35 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Re: NEAU/TRUTH IS MENTAL... Ian of Boston Rave Kru sez: >See you there, we should figure >out some way to tell who everyone is.. I should be wearing a black shirt with the Skreem logo in White.. Should we have an ne-raves meeting spot? The club is pretty small.. >MUCH respect to NEAU for the parties they throw. :) Exactly! Joel and Dave and everyone involved have been doing a great job.. definite support! Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:31:55 EDT Reply-To: aboulanger@ldgo.columbia.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@LAMONT.LDGO.COLUMBIA.EDU From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Visit to Denver and Bolder Hi, I was away for a week at the AAPG (oil diggers) conference in Denver. I went to a couple of clubs, and listened to some radio (no raves though :-( to wit: 1) 1082 Broadway (at 1082 Broadway) in Denver (on Friday) has a nice setup -- large dance space, good base bin placement with the stage built on top. The music was good for my tastes, but the *vibe* was pretty lame. 2) The Marquee in Bolder (in the downtown district) was Grovedelicious. In an old theater, it had plenty of vibe enhancing stuff: good floor, floor policy (no bottles on floor), decent floor size, good sound, & good music -- lots of Afro-Latin derived and tribal sounds on Wednesday. (Sprockett, you would have liked it ;-)). The water fountain also provided copious flow. Boulder has a local group doing the "Giant Step thing" that was playing at a special Monday night event called Sol. I also went to their regular Wednesday techno night called Sunshine. 3) Lots of techno at night on the airwaves. In fact, there was some syndicated Top 20 show called Grove Radio (as I recall) that was Techno! They advertised the new record store chain opening in Boston. PS: I may make it to the Industry in Manchester this Friday. Back in the sweltering heat, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@ldeo.columbia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 17:51:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM reminder! Uh..guys...all that and only 3 responses? We;ve got Work It! Natural Rhythm! etc..all coming up and no one's going? Hard to believe :) Not like I want to do extra work, but I'd love to help others get completely psyched up for these events by showing them how much net effort we're putting behind both. So please get your submissions in :) HUGZ and love Melzie aka Hazel-Eyed Kitten ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 19:13:01 -0300 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: FAQ REQUEST i'll send out a new distribution soon. i just got back from a conference and have to finish updating it. expect it about tuesday. haZard . ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:17:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: HOM & FAQ New to the system and still trying to learn the lingo. =) What is the HOM and the FAQ? Thank you Peace, FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 22:20:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: HOM & FAQ In-Reply-To: <199406200217.WAA15953@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, finger wrote: > What is the HOM and the FAQ? HOM = Hook-up O' Matic this is the list of what parties people are going to be at for the weekdn and if they're offering or seeking rides.. FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions the fact sheet about ne-raves would be called the ne-raves FAQ chris .-'~~~-. we cause .'o oOOOo`. pronoina :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: .......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' this'll stop ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow them shakes. ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple ___\\;_\\//_______ WWW: http://bazaar.com/cmellow.hmtl fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 19 Jun 1994 23:36:53 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: re zippies et al.... In-Reply-To: ; from "Joe LeSesne" at Jun 19, 94 11:53 am >a bunch of new age crap thought up by some 30 somethings to make >a buck ioff of OUR scene. There is a reason that most of the scene is m>ade up of people 15-25, because we STARTED it, not the hippies or 6>60' gurus guru's> who are now again comming out of the woodwork -- Actually it wasnt started by 15-25 year olds, or by 60's hippies.. it started 100,00 years ago with a group of people eating mushrooms, dancing around teh fire and discovering how it aided in a sense of community and oneness. Im not sure about their media image, but on a one to one level i did not see any "holier than thou" attitude. rather i saw some very friendly and open people, interested in our scene, and showing us theirs. when they talked about "waking america up" it wasnt you they were talking about, They consider american rave culture one of teh places that stuff is really happening, they were refering to the average 9-5er, and the corrupt miltary and industrial complex. from what i saw of these people that last thing they would want is you to blindly follow them, or their philosophy.. but like anyone with an idea they consider good, hope you will hear thm, and perhaps agree. maybe youve had some other experience woith them, but that was i saw. peace Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 00:15:22 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , De Hearticle Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: De Hearticle Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: Re: samgoody >On Sat, 18 Jun 1994, jill wrote: >> the clincher though for going to this particular store was that they have >the magazine is called 'request' and the guy who wrote the milwaukee SAM GOODY IS THE ANTI-CHRIST. knowing afx is on that cover makes me itch. (disgruntled former employee) ((wasting bandwidth)) ::::::::::::::::::: boom bap past electro future De Hearticle Poseur he is: K Rock-Ski! kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Electro808@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 00:21:25 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , De Hearticle Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: De Hearticle Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: Re: re zippies et al.... >>a bunch of new age crap thought up by some 30 somethings to make >>a buck ioff of OUR scene. There is a reason that most of the scene is >m>ade up of people 15-25, because we STARTED it, not the hippies or >6>60' gurus >from what i saw of these people that last thing they would want is you >to blindly follow them, or their philosophy.. but like anyone with an >idea they consider good, hope you will hear thm, and perhaps agree. >maybe youve had some other experience woith them, but that was i saw. >peace you cant say it could be all bad... seems that the san fran scene managed a lot better than other rave scenes mainly cuz it had a psychedelic culture which grafted onto it... or to give my best example, when i was out there last July-August, the August 1 FMR at Los Reyes Nat'l Seashore... right before it was busted, or during I forget i got to talking to this late 20 early 30-ish woman next to me. mentioned i was from CT, she said she used to live in NYC, i mentioned that our scene wasn't nearly as big as SF's, and her reply was: "Yeah, all NYC has pretty much is Wetland's" !!!! big stoner club... well you see she saw the rave scene mainly from the psychedelic happy peace love and harmony drugs etc. point of view... never even noticed the music as themain thing as i did (which is why i shall boycott every Wikkid party next time im on the left coast... errrg) anyway, they may bring a better harmony-psychedelia angle to our scene, but i am not too positive they will raise the general rhythm level =) but whateva! shore did care neva! ::::::::::::::::::: boom bap past electro future De Hearticle Poseur he is: K Rock-Ski! kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Electro808@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 00:35:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: Delta 3/Breathe aka mosquito coast some observations about small, outdoor parties: -theres something that is just so inspiring about being outside, without the limitations of walls, door policies, security guards, or overpriced concession stands -outdoor parties usually don't attract as much of the so-called "blanket posse" as indoor events....the people who show tend to be those who have an actual interest in the scene -with such a small, vibey flow going, it doesnt really matter if the dj's are "big name"...as long as the music is good, everything seems to work out. ok ok ok, on to the specifics for delta 3, the third in a series of small parties thrown by that nigel richards fellow (who had on this wacky swim club tank top...hehhehheh). unlike the first two deltas, this one was thrown in the great wide open...to be more specific, in an eerie clearing somewhat near the philly airport. it was a good space, though--lots of room to dance, level ground, lack of tall grass, and it was out of the way. two minuses: first of all, the mosquitos were insane; i have so many bites on me that i look like i have chicken pox. and second of all, the stagnant, humid air did little to disperse the faint smell of the sewege treatment plant about 2 miles away. but all in all it was a quality space, and completly bust- proof. how bustproof was it? well, a cop actually showed up and didnt cAre what we did, as long as we cleaned up afterwards. now THAT is a good sign. and so we danced through the night....the sound system was fine, and the music ranged from house(various people) to uplifting breakbeat (me) to messed-up experimental hard acid (nigel). very very nice... and it was free! i would definatly suggest you go to the next one...just remember your bug repellant :) jason/method one ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 01:24:36 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Delta 3/Breathe aka mosquito coast So.....We had a great time. The third Delta was FREE and had no necklace requirements. However, there were some problems. Our first freebie, we experienced a rush for a generator.....all week long. We got one, thanks J! We also had technical difficulties with transportation. We had everybody interested meet at the Phladelphia International Airport, USAIR Arrivals, Terminal B.....and sit with the hazards on. This was really mysterious and exciting. It turned out to be a bit inefficient though. We took the caravan on to the space. Incidentally, the reason we used a caravan technique instead of a map was because the space was VERY difficult to find and people going in and out of the area might draw some unwanted attention. So, we drove and stopped about 2 miles later at a gas station to gather everyone. We saw about 25 cars. We thought we had everyone so we continued. We had no idea that there actually were 35-40 cars. We left some people.....somewhere. One of the auto-chain participants got onto the wrong highway and so the followers were lost. Well, we have solutions for the next event. We will still be a caravan of party people but the first and last cars will communicate with high powered walkie talkies (we own them). There will also be mini maps provided just in case. Also, we will meet at a less populated space so that we can monitor the number of party people. In the future, we will be better prepared for the elements of the great outdoors by providing more bug reppellant torches. Do bring your own reppellant. Our next event just like this.....the last DELTA (4)...still Breathe, the outdoor series on July 2. The space will probably change. We will post all of the relevant information onto the Devil-Line (215)631-2666. Please do plan on attending and bring canned food donations and a few bucks to help cover costs. Thanks, C-YA! -Nigel. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 01:52:22 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DToomey Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DToomey Subject: Subscribe to Calender List I am hoping to acquire info concerning NE raves - I may be barking up the run t ree if so please point me in the right direction. Thanx D ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 03:17:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: new tape > > >i just finished a new tape last week, it's my first one with new music since >HOLLOWPOINT from 12/93... the song list is as follows: > > > >THE MAN LIKE THE SNUGGLES - I'm Sugarfree >A Chicago Hardcore Authority Production >60 minutes > >DJ Ron - Mo' Musik [Rough Tone] >DJ Demo - Essence EP [Corrosive] >DJs Flynn and Flora - Jungle Love [Full Cycle] >DJ Gwange - Motionless [Legend] >Liftin Spirits - Giggle n rush [ADM] >Twilight Zone Remix [Kikman] >DJ Hype - Cops [Ganja] >Kakoo - What do [Tantrum] >Edge of Darkness - Roller coaster [After Dark] >Scottfree - Street fighting [Basement] >Mad Dog - Rumbled [Underdog] > >Mad Dog - Rumbled (cont.) [Underdog] >DJ Demo - Power of love [Corrosive] >Rogue Unit [Labello Blanco] >House Crew - Super hero [Production House] >White label 10" [JB1201B] >Trinity - Chapter 19 [V] >DJ Rap and Aston - Get under [Proper Talent] >Hardware - Skanka [Face] >Remarc - Sceptic [Dollar] >Hardware - TNT [Face] >Koda - The deep [Deejay] >Day and night - Sugarfree [One Touch] > >leave e-mail if you want a copy... > >mike > >ps: could someone crosspost this to all the regional mailing lists, as well >as post it on alt.rave? i'll owe ya one > >-- > > -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 07:44:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: why I didnt go to Sputnik In-Reply-To: <199406181445.KAA07148@holmes.umd.edu> >On Sat, 18 Jun 1994, Harry Duran wrote: > > >> The only raves in recent memory that Ive been to that had vibe were in >> Philadelphia Delta and Kickin. The Philly scene seems to have a more >> cohesive and PLUR core. The NYC scene is washed up IMO, killed by the >> promoters RIP NYC Rave Scene. > >Hey, as the saying goes, "You've got a friend in Pennsylvania". Me thinks >the two most vibey scenes this year will be Philly and Pittsburgh. > Joe > Hey, props to PA and all, but I think the vibe in Baltimore Towne is PHAT!! Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 07:47:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406181457.KAA07244@holmes.umd.edu> >On Sat, 18 Jun 1994, Cal Eastman wrote: >> dan- do you know the zippies? >> they arre not just attempting but succedd ing in london.. >> megatripplaiss is HOT in england... and their perties here atrract teh >> like of terence mkenna, tim leary, donmeinhousen, dana beale, matthew >> hupert, bobby faust, high times, neuronautic institute, villiage >> voice, wired, bruce sterling,etcetcetcetc >> working with these guys gave me a sense of forward motion in the >> greater "consciousness community" that i have not felt in many many >> years..... >> check it out... you might be fired up..... >> peace > >Its so easy to get caught up in the hype ain't it? If these Zippies were >so great then why hasn't anyone on the breaks list in London heard of >them? I think this is the stupidest thing I've heard of in the scene in a >long time. I can see this small pack of Brits saying "lets go to America >and fool the media into thinking we're a new movemen/british >invasion". As someone on alt.rave said, "I think it is the poorest excuse >for a 'movement' I've ever seen." >Maybe I'm missing something somewhere but it is just plain dumb. Why is >it we are always looking outside for something that we have here? >Why is it every message I see that talks >about the zippies makes them appear as some alien/new-age beings here to >show us the "light"? Why is it every message is filled with >newagetechnopychedeliamediahypababble? Who cares about Terrance McKenna? And >haven't we been "uniting the the cyber people and the raver people" for >nearly 2 1/2 Years here? > >I think I'm not alone in saying once and for all: "ZIPPIES GO HOME!" > > Joe > Well, I could care less about this whole Zippy thing ... But, Terrence McKenna is the shit! His books are great, and he's a great speaker and Shamen. Does anyone realise what the pshyceledic movement owes to this one shroomin' dude? Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:56:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 19 Jun 1994 10:41:41 18000 ." <9406191453.AA16732@minerva.cis.yale.edu> > From: Cal Eastman > > Here we havevery few older > people involved in the scene... every rave is mostly people 20 and > younger. We need (the planet needs) forward trhinking people before it > collapsses in on itself (the scene and the world) I'm confused. Are people =< 20 yrs. not forward thinking? > At the zippie party i saw people from every corner of alternative > society there- i saw libertarians, pagans, people from the harvard > group and millbrook,ravers and dj's, writers, painters, musicians of > EVERY type of music, witches, atheists, radical catholics, hippies, > hackers, journalists,political radicals, poloitical apathists, > freaks, geeks, philosophers, hangers on, and just plain folk, all > grooving together, sometimes agreeing, sometimes not, but all involved > in a powerful group dynamic that transcended raver clique vibes. Well, being one, I'd hesitate to call libertarians members of alternative society. :) But seriously, I see all those people at raves, too. Come to think of it, I see them at meetings of the Yale Political Union, too. Where is the Zippie Magic? -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:57:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: zips,keoki,moby etal (repost) I think the original post got hosed, if not, sorry about the wasted bandwidth. One of the thangs I find interesting in this cyberculture of ours is the hightened tolerance, or lack thereof, that I find on the net. I've known/worked with Keoki for many years. With his success he has developed a public personna that can be a bit rough. Why would anyone confuse that with his personality. Fame is a funny thing. If you have ever been mobbed, it changes you forever. Moby is a fairley private person, IMHO. He participates in the culture in which he performs as is appropriate to that personality. The Zippies are trying create a culture independant ethos that unites what is, for them, disparate groups. Promoters are fighjting the greed and paranoia of those who own and manage public spaces, while delivering environmenbts that are conducive to those creating and those would benifit from creativity. So what's with all the flameing? Hupeople are funning higher mammals. Our present is most often given by our past. Said another way, we interpret what we see/feel from what we have seen/felt. We can, with practice, have a present given by the future. How? Just by saying so. So you might want to try this on, not like its the gospel, but just to see how it works. The next time you have somthing to say, try saying it _as you would like it to have happened_. Accuse someone of a random act of beauty PLUR virtually woof ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 17 Jun 1994 11:17:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEWIS_JA@CORNING.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEWIS_JA@CORNING.COM Subject: *ZAPPED*! hmm, this is ROBINS52@snycorva, i am using my mother's e-mail to send a message to ne-raves that my netsite @ snycorva was zapped during the thunderstorms :( i will not be able to read any messages sent to me until saturday afternoon :( anyone else have this problem, or is it just my luck :( not raving on (yet) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 09:55:46 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: zippy music >anyway, they may bring a better harmony-psychedelia angle to our scene, bu >i am not too positive they will raise the general rhythm level =) actually there was some prety slammin' techno at the rave on ludlow street..... -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:34:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neur0mancer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neur0mancer Subject: Re: NEAU/TRUTH IS MENTAL... In-Reply-To: <199406191920.PAA12622@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 19 Jun 1994 DJEntox@AOL.COM wrote: > Ian of Boston Rave Kru sez: > >See you there, we should figure > >out some way to tell who everyone is.. > > I should be wearing a black shirt with the Skreem logo in White.. > Should we have an ne-raves meeting spot? The club is pretty small.. > > >MUCH respect to NEAU for the parties they throw. :) > Exactly! Joel and Dave and everyone involved have been doing a great job.. > definite support! > > > Peace > DJ Entox > . . .The club IS small... There'z a DuNkIn DoNuTs just r-o-u-n-d the corner. . . < @ > < @ > > [[[[[[Neur0mancer]]]]]] \_______________/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 10:58:41 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: ZIPPIES ARE IN TOWN In-Reply-To: <199406201357.JAA01288@holmes.umd.edu>; from "David Sklar" at Jun 20, 94 9:56 am > > > From: Cal Eastman > > > > Here we havevery few older > > people involved in the scene... every rave is mostly people 20 and > > younger. We need (the planet needs) forward trhinking people before it > > collapsses in on itself (the scene and the world) > > I'm confused. Are people =< 20 yrs. not forward thinking? > > > At the zippie party i saw people from every corner of alternative > > society there- i saw libertarians, pagans, people from the harvard > > group and millbrook,ravers and dj's, writers, painters, musicians of > > EVERY type of music, witches, atheists, radical catholics, hippies, > > hackers, journalists,political radicals, poloitical apathists, > > freaks, geeks, philosophers, hangers on, and just plain folk, all > > grooving together, sometimes agreeing, sometimes not, but all involved > > in a powerful group dynamic that transcended raver clique vibes. > > Well, being one, I'd hesitate to call libertarians members of > alternative society. :) But seriously, I see all those people > at raves, too. Come to think of it, I see them at meetings of the > Yale Political Union, too. Where is the Zippie Magic? > > > > -dave > In onb way did i mean to imply the people under 20 were any les screative, inlligent or driven that those older.. quite the contrary- what i meant was that the scene can onlt benefit from wider appreciation, and more varied influences. excuse any insult u felt.. it was not intended, just poor;ly worded as to the libertarians, a large faction of them are extreme radicals, who still have hope for democracy, while the rest ore demoplubicans trying to not pay taxes and still smoke dope. the zippy "magic" is all of our magic, but each new take on it, each new wave of interest amonst teh various countercultural and consciousness expanding communities makes us stronger peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:03:38 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: music submission for trippy video hi- the neuronautic institute ( some of u know us from performance/projection of visuals at raves on the east coast) is putting together its first video for in store and mail release. We are looking for submissions of music fo the tape. We are looking for triabl stuff, ambient stuff, anything psychadelic, dancey and fun... we are at the very start of this priject, and not all the details have yet been worked out re renumeration etc, but this is the initial request for submissions anyone interested in getting their tunes released on a video? let me know contact me at shiva@freenet.scri.fsu.edu peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 11:16:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: NEAU/TRUTH IS MENTAL... FYI, due to scheduling conflicts it is unlikely that Adam X or Jimmy Crash will be able to make it. But, Heather Heart, Carlos Tera and Reade are all confirmed however. Sorry for the change, but it's just new information I found out this weekend. Adam may still make it if he can. Oh BTW, there IS a 24 hour store at the bottom of the exit AND a Dunkin Donuts right next door to the club. :) Also, for anyone wondering about the size of the club, it can hold at least 300-400 people comfortably. See you Friday! dave. -- ----- djm@progress.com ------------------- PH: 617-280-4474 ------------------ They knew he'd never been on || PARENTAL This album contains explicit lyrics their TV, so they passed his || ==== which may cause your children to good music by. -Joni Mitchell || ADVISORY become free thinking intellectuals. * We are BORGanized religion. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. Resistance is futile. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 12:22:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Speakman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Speakman Subject: Re: Zippies Hiya! I don't know if the zippies are only in it for the dosh (although I wouldn't be surprised - and who's paying for the press agents they employ, their travel bills etc.?), another possibility is they're genuine in their aims and are just looking desperately for like minded souls to share their rather nebulous and wishy washy (to me, anyway) philosophy. >From: Cal Eastman >WItjhout conceptual revolutionaries like mckenna, leary, wilson,etc >there never would have been a rave scene. and people would still be >trying to peddle father knows best shit on us. Ooh, I don't agree at all. To me they're just a bunch of old American hippies looking for some kind of youthful scene bandwagon upon which to hop. Certainly Terence "lend us a tenner" McKenna has been making some serious cash since he met the Shamen. The rave scene was "started", if anyone can start a scene, by a bunch of British kids bored of going to the pub and interested by the possibilities offered by cheap musical gear, weird new styles of music coming from black USA, and some interesting new (to them) drugs, I'd say. They didn't give a toss that some hippies had done all the same drugs first a million years ago. As Will said a couple of days ago, the people in the States are hiding behind the London club Megatripolis, which seems by all accounts to be a genuinely cool place, cheap to get in, good vibes etc. However there seems to have been a parting of the ways, viz. this mail I received: >My name is Blue I am The General Manager of Megatripolis. >I was shown your communication and had to respond. >Firstly, no one currently employed by or representing Megatripolis is in >America. Fraser Clark and some of his party were instrumental in the >conceptualisation of the club however this partnership is now declared, by a >U.K. court, void. In closing he added: >the vibe is all, the rest is (as we say) bollocks. Good slogan, maybe we can translate it into Latin and put it on a NE-raves logo. Anyway, that's my 1.5p's worth, I'll shut up now. Fond regards John. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 16:54:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Hom **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** The HOM stands for Hookup-O-Matic When: The list is posted Sunday nights and Wed nights. [more if needed] Purpose: To let others know which event you'll be at Allows them to mail you ahead of time to possibly meet up Might help choose which event to go to depending on if people you'd like to see will be there Gives more excitement to upcoming events Planning pre-parties Once enough people say they'll be at another event, someone might plan a pre-party or after-party, if so, it will say so by their login and you can mail them for more information if you're interested Finding crash space If you'll want a place to crash before your drive back, ravers in the area are usually more than happy to allow you to stay over at their places Getting Rides Finding people with available space in their car allows you to arrange a ride for yourself [with the help of the list] Supporting you net friends The list will name if the person is spinning, promoting, running smart bar etc... you can help support your net friends by possibly choosing to attend those events Mail: Mail melzie@wam.umd.edu with your information to be placed on te list Information needed: Login Other Aliases Real name Address [Phone number if you won't be arounda computer] If you need or can offer a ride, where from, how many If you need or can offer crash space and for how many If you're doing anything for the event If you'd like to have a pre or after party Key: N: Needs CR: Crash Space R: Ride O: Offers --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tuesday, June 21 MEETING AT FUNKS Bal-T-Mo --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allen aka Amtime amtime@delphi.com Melzie [N: Baltimore] melzie@wam.umd.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, June 24 PLASTIK Philly ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peppermint Patty [N:CR 3] peppermint@delphi.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, June 25 WORK IT! Philly ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie melzie@wam.umd.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, June 25-26 NATURAL RHYTHM North of B-more ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chad Day [N:R-Fairfax or Metro stop] btc@PEN.K12.VA.US CCherry aka Scott ccherry@mason1.gmu.edu jgerbe1@umbc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ August 28 ARIA North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenn-Bug [Doin Smart Bar] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 19:57:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: work it! anybody have the flyer or info for Work It in Philly this Saturday? I didn't see it in the last ROM. I keep hearing about it but I don't know who's spinning or anything. I'm going to Plastik on Friday, probably with Denard (who's spinning) but neither of us have a ride so far. We may end up taking the train. Melzie, please add us to the HOM. Anyone else going? We'll contribute towards gas & tolls. Looking forward to seeing/hearing Damian & Nigel & Wink again. It's been too long! :) thanks, ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 20:13:08 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Speed Racer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Speed Racer Subject: Re: WOnder Twins? In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 19 Jun 1994 04:22:43 EDT from I'm *from* RI and i've not heard of the Wonder Twins before....my guess is that they are probably a former part of some other group (ah la Amoebahead/ Amorphous prod.) Anyone else? Donovan? Are you the wondertwins perhaps? if so....WHY DIDNT YA CALL ME????? (shakes fist) ;) stay fresh kids joe (speed racer) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 21:25:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: work it! In-Reply-To: <199406202356.AA23363@panix.com> Here ys go!! Work it! will be AWESOME! :L) [well, I hope...giggle] HUGZ!! Melzie aka Hazel-Eyed Kitten Saturday, June 25 Philidelphia, PA 215.552.8940 SPECIAL K PRODUCTIONS presents WORK IT! With the finest talent from throughout the United States, we would like you to join us on our third experiment in dace. We've selected the creamiest of the crop to be spinning on THREE seperate floors, leave ALL inhibitions aside and help us WORK IT! the the following: Guy DMC -nyc/dmc records 333 -new england/primary pro. On-E -nyc/sampladelic records Scott Henry -baltimore/fever/buzz/dc Terry Mullan -chicago/st. louis Debo -boston/stress records Wow and Flutter [DJ Dale Charles - DJ Daeman Wink -philly/ovum recordings And taking you to blissful new hights in the ambient room.... Nigel Richard -phili/611 records John Hicks -long island/smooth groove Sunrise Ambient Sets By: Overload -boston/the loft/boston beat Blake -philly/philly underground 10PM - 6AM $15 ub advance $18 at the door Tickets available at: Philly: 611 records -215.413.9100 Door procedures: there will be xtremely strict security, please do not bring alcohol, cans, bottles [glass or plastic], weapons, markers, spray cans Promotions/Buses: NJ: e-force 201.295.1925 angel asylum908.972.6270 PA: slurp 215.233.9777 devil line 215.631.2666 fuel 412.734.1467 kick 717.770.0241 DE: zenith 302.764.9272 MD: greg p. 410.727.6178 DC: andy 703.549.8535 VA: insomnia 804.756.8331 ......WE'RE NOT DONE YET!!!! ..and then Back to Basics afterparty.... the B2B crew along with some very special guests take you beyond with the afterparty! From 6AM to 1PM for only $1, with your stamp, at a locatrion to be announced at work it! Dozia & King Brit Ryde Keef Troposphere Narayan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 21:58:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sjakie Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sjakie Subject: Re: work it! In-Reply-To: <199406210125.VAA10232@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 20 Jun 1994, Mel-zo-rama wrote: > Here ys go!! > > Work it! will be AWESOME! :L) [well, I hope...giggle] > > > HUGZ!! > > > Melzie aka Hazel-Eyed Kitten > > > > Saturday, June 25 Philidelphia, PA 215.552.8940 > > > SPECIAL K PRODUCTIONS > > presents > > > WORK IT! > > With the finest talent from throughout the United States, we would like > you to join us on our third experiment in dace. We've selected the > creamiest of the crop to be spinning on THREE seperate floors, leave ALL > inhibitions aside and help us WORK IT! the the following: > > Guy DMC -nyc/dmc records 333 -new england/primary pro. > > On-E -nyc/sampladelic records Scott Henry -baltimore/fever/buzz/dc > > Terry Mullan -chicago/st. louis Debo -boston/stress records > > Wow and Flutter [DJ Dale Charles - DJ Daeman Wink -philly/ovum recordings > > And taking you to blissful new hights in the ambient room.... > > Nigel Richard -phili/611 records John Hicks -long island/smooth groove > > Sunrise Ambient Sets By: > > Overload -boston/the loft/boston beat > > Blake -philly/philly underground > > 10PM - 6AM $15 ub advance $18 at the door > > Tickets available at: > Philly: 611 records -215.413.9100 > Door procedures: there will be xtremely strict security, please do not bring > alcohol, cans, bottles [glass or plastic], weapons, markers, > spray cans > Promotions/Buses: NJ: e-force 201.295.1925 > angel asylum908.972.6270 > PA: slurp 215.233.9777 > devil line 215.631.2666 > fuel 412.734.1467 > kick 717.770.0241 > DE: zenith 302.764.9272 > MD: greg p. 410.727.6178 > DC: andy 703.549.8535 > VA: insomnia 804.756.8331 > > ......WE'RE NOT DONE YET!!!! > > ..and then Back to Basics afterparty.... > > the B2B crew along with some very special guests take you beyond with the > afterparty! From 6AM to 1PM for only $1, with your stamp, at a locatrion > to be announced at work it! > > Dozia & King Brit Ryde Keef Troposphere Narayan > So have you got anyone to go with for this pardy? Jake MElon melon@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 22:24:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Riiiiiide to Work It! ! Hi everyone. I am still in lovely and talented New Haven CT. Unfortunately, somewhat like Sputnik, Work It! is not. Would anyone like to drive me? $$$ for Gas, Tolls, and Cookies... Or, would anyone like to take the train down with me? I can meet you anywhere between New Haven and South Jersey..... help me escape! please. :) -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 22:23:02 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Ride needed from Conn. to Natural Rhythm > > >Cybertribe, > >Is there anyone who will be travelling through Connecticut? A girl named >Gabriella and her friend need a ride from Waterbury, Ct... If you can help >them out, send me e-mail with your phone number, and I'll pass it along, or >I'll give you hers... She's willing to pay gas and tolls and such. Please >respond A.S.A.P. > >Thanks, >Mars >a176@lehigh.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 22:40:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: HOM & FAQ In-Reply-To: <199406200221.WAA15972@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, secret agent #33 wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jun 1994, finger wrote: > > FAQ = Frequently Asked Questions > the fact sheet about ne-raves would be called the ne-raves FAQ Correction. It is called the NE Raves FAQ. Brendan? Want to put it up? Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 22:47:16 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: Riiiiiide to Work It! ! >Hi everyone. >I am still in lovely and talented New Haven CT. >Unfortunately, somewhat like Sputnik, Work It! is not. >Would anyone like to drive me? $$$ for Gas, Tolls, and Cookies... >Or, would anyone like to take the train down with me? >I can meet you anywhere between New Haven and South Jersey..... > >help me escape! please. :) >-dave > Dave, A girl named Gabriella and her friend also need a ride from Woodbury Conn. to Natrual Rhythm, but I'm sure would also consider going to Work It! instead. Give her a call: 203.754.2951 Ok? Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jun 1994 23:48:22 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: To: Bob Baxter (sorry everyone!) Hey Bob, I tried to send mail to your account obn pslink, but It bounced.. I sent the Skreem logo to you on aol.. it's all set to be downloaded.. Thanx a lot! Peace] DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:12:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: To: Bob Baxter (sorry everyone!) In-Reply-To: <94Jun20.234839edt.171-1@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "DJEntox@AOL.COM" at Jun 20, 94 11:48 pm hey! i'm not bob baxter! oh well...i read your replies on aol, but i forgot to reply to em. whooops =). a chat thing would be cool. i just got back today from spending an absolutely *boring* weekend in some lame ass old peoples resort in VA. (my grandparents paid for it cuz it was there 50th anniversary. i t was a nice thought and all...but the place was so fucking boring.) anyway....almost done with der drivers ed! birthday next tuesday, i'm psyched =). i really want to drive aropund the east coast, so once i get my license (knock on the old wood) i'll prolly show up on your doorstep begging for food. =) oh, back to the aol thing....any week day around midnightish is fly for me. just tell me. *blush* i lost your phone # once again, so just mail it and i'll buzz ye and we can figure it out then....(ok, so that kinda defeats the purpose, but...it'll be a short phone call =) btw, reply to this address so i'll get it for sure (i only call up aol a few times a week, the #'s always busy and i havent found a backup # that works yet. :P) oh! prolly later in the week i'll be changing email addresses....i'll keep you posted. =) (i got to pick part of the address name =) but...... thats life john aka trying to lucid dream this summer ---- john sweeney jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu binary sound(imprints) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:15:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: whoops! public apology: (yes wasting bandwidth again, sorry =) that was a private message to djentox, sorry y'all got it. my fault. (even tho i know all y'all love reading them privates =) john aka realizing in that ohnosecond he shoulda pressed the 'h' key before the 's' key ---- john sweeney jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu binary sound(imprints) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:47:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: EXODUS postponed Apologies to anyone who ventured down to New York/New Jersey on Saturday for Exodus. After days of preparation and hard work, the sound guy changes his mind when it was least expected. Last minute scrambling for a sound system didn't work either. Well the site is still there and we're looking into someone more reliable for sound. EXODUS has been merely postponed until July 2. We'll keep you posted. The lineup should be just as good if not better. It's amazing, everytime I get involved in helping to organize a party, I realize just how many people are involved in putting it together and what level of cooperation is needed to pull it off. The right fuck-up can ruin the whole thing. Why do people fuck up? Who knows... slightly disappointed but still looking forward to making this happen... ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 00:49:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: Re: SETI (+ notes) hmm, what taylor wrote about his seti cd is too bad :( it reminds me of my vapourspace CDs, i was sent the super-duper advance version, and initially i was pissed at the fact that CD players read it as a 60-minootka long song however, it is refreshing in a way to listen to a CD as a complete piece, without skipping around and around. i never really got into Richie Hawtin's "Sheet One" until i listened from 00:00 to the last fade out... after taht, i started listening to my records from beginning to end(!) you know, i'm surprised at the number of songs i've 'heard' for years... but have never really HEARD get it :) rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 01:27:10 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NigelR611 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NigelR611@AOL.COM Subject: Plastik, June 24 611 Records Proudly Presents a gift to the techno loving community: PLASTIK, June 24 11pm-8am Only $10. 214 South 13th St., 13th & Locust, 1st Floor Featuring: Jimmy Crash (Groove Records, Brooklyn) Denard (Mental Parties, NYC) Wink (Sorted Records, Philly) Dieselboy (Break Beat Maestro, Pitt) Nigel Richards (611 Records, Philly) Each DJ has definitely contributed to the growth of the techno scene here in the US and abroad. Come celebrate the techno generation at a cozy underground bash in the city of brotherly love. Spend only ten dollars and hear wicked music, dance into a wild frenzy, and support a true techno party. Not to diss raves...but they have become a bit housey. So, why not endulge in an evening of techno exploration. Trance, acid, breakbeat, hardcore, experimental, and then some. Friday June 24, 11-8, 13th & Locust. House chill out upstairs all night. For info and directions call (215)631-2666. No advance tix. Will not sell out. See you there. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 01:29:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: EXODUS postponed In-Reply-To: <199406210446.AAA11144@holmes.umd.edu> I think we have a problem....Um...has anyone noticed thast there are 3 net backed events ALL on July 2nd? Exodus, Delta 4, and MGP 3........ Just curious if this will cause problems...we've been having so many lately between Work it and Natural Rhythm... Melzie aka easier to back your netfriends when you don't have to hop events ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 01:50:40 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Riiiiiide to Work It! ! In-Reply-To: <9406210224.AA06367@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "David Sklar" at Jun 20, 94 10:24 pm Dave....... I can't go to work it....(Although I really wanna see Terry again!) But I'm trying to make it to Plastik in the same town! (philly....great spreads they have. Just wonderful on bagels) SO call me or something.....my number is (203)-454-2980....oh and if anyone would be so gratious as to offer a ride that would be fab....or if a group wants to rent a van perhaps we can look into that..... so random people are also welcome to call me....... P.S.: My real name is chuck.......it's kinda weird when I get a call asking for "Ned!Snappleboy......I get strange looks....*lP Hope to hear from someone!!!!!!! NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 10:18:05 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: Zippies In-Reply-To: <199406201643.MAA05080@holmes.umd.edu>; from "John Speakman" at Jun 20, 94 12:22 pm >they're just a bunch of old American >hippies looking for some kind of youthful scene bandwagon upon which >to hop. Certainly Terence "lend us a tenner" McKenna has been making >some serious cash since he met the Shamen. The rave scene was "started", >if anyone can start a scene, by a bunch of British kids bored of going >to the pub and interested by the possibilities offered by cheap musical >gear, weird new styles of music coming from black USA, and some interestin >new (to them) drugs, I'd say. They didn't give a toss that some hippies >had done all the same drugs first a million years ago. I did not mean to imply that leary,mckenna,et al directly are responsible for teh rave scene, but that without visionaries like these, psychadelic culture, of which the rave scene is part, would not have happened, or certainly not have had the form it has today. AS i ststed earlier, its not they who stsreted the culture either, but is an extension of shamanic systems going back to the "dawn of time" >don't know if the zippies are only in it for the dosh (although >I wouldn't be surprised - and who's paying for the press agents they emplo >their travel bills etc.?), another possibility is they're genuine in their >aims and are just looking desperately for like minded souls to share their >rather nebulous and wishy washy (to me, anyway) philosophy. If they are only in it for the dosh, they are damned poor at it, for they are losing money with every stop they make in the US. peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 11:39:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: NE:Raves Video What the hell is happening with this thing? sorry foe being the tiniesy bit frustrated but its been about a years since I last asked :) Pllleeeeeaaaaaaasseeee lets get it moving again. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:40:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: Tuesday nights in NYC What's going on in the city tonight? My brother's heading in and is looking for something to do. I'm not familiar with the mid-week techno happenings in New York. Any suggestions? dave. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jun 1994 18:30:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: Sputnik I just wanted to say hi to everyone I bumped into at sputnik and make a few comments about it. First, nobody was exempt from the security, who all were off-duty correctional officers, I was told. At one point while we were setting up the table, they made everyone who did not have a laminate go to the doorway and get a hand stamp, which turned out to be the wrong hand stamp so we were all sent back a second time for a stamp. And this wasn't just vendors or people milling around not doing anything, they were asking people behind lighting consoles, on the stage, up ladders, etc; I heard the head guy saying, "check everyone up on stage, too. Don't just take 'I'm working here' as an answer." Whew! And when they were evacuating for the gas, they couldn't understand why I wouldn't just walk away and leave $1000+ of inventory sitting out. Luckily I was able to be almost the last person out and could keep an eye on the table from outside. Secondly, I would have to say that this is the LOUDEST event I have ever been to. I've certainly heard worse sound systems, but for some reason they decided to keep the SPL's at pain level for the bulk of the evening. It is so far the only event that I have worn my earplugs form more than 1/2 hour or so; I probably kept them in for at least 4-5 hrs. If you see me at any rave DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK ME FOR A PAIR, even if you don't think you need them, that mild headache you sometimes get is not from too much dancing in the heat, it is the warning sign for HEARING DAMAGE! I have a box full of -30db industrial-quality earplugs that I will hand out to anyone who asks and when that box is empty I'll go buy another one. Thirdly, I really didn't like a lot of the music played, although a semi-nubie with me said that she liked at least the variety of it. The first dj that went on (I can't remember if it was MGEE or not) got into some hard, trancy stuff that was pretty cool. Fourthly, I tended to be very busy at times, so I didn't have much time to meet or talk to a lot of you `-( but if you did say hi, thanx! Thats one of the main reasons I go. A friend that came to meet me there brought a newbie and the both had a great time, especially dancing at the afterparty. So to sum up, I had a good time. Despite the sound/music/security/teargas I still came away in a good mood. Looking forward to Natural Rhythum, probably. d3 `-{> Chaos LITE--"A third less fractal than regular chaos!" --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:29:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: Riiiiiide to Work It! ! In-Reply-To: <199406210650.CAA11554@holmes.umd.edu> chuckes, you can't go to work it? why for heavens not? how did everything go with you mom? christa and i waiting until 3:30pm for you, but then decided to go downtown. sorry we did't get to hang. i'll be in the city on thurday--i agreed to do that interview with that women, sharline who's working on her thesis :) did you respond to her? dang...i wish gil would get in touch with me soon, so i know what event to go to. i hope everything on his job is ok... anyway, either write back or call me. it's kinda nice to hear a voice sometimes ;) 914.357.7074 big hugs- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:32:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: previous messages dang...i hope that last message wasn't made public to you all--the one to snappleboy..ugh. sorry if it was. *blush. um, well i guess you all have my phone number now, so i expect at least one of you to call me ;) sorry guys, jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:33:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Re: Tuesday nights in NYC >What's going on in the city tonight? >My brother's heading in and is looking for something to do. I'm not familiar >with the mid-week techno happenings in New York. > >Any suggestions? > >dave. > > This has nothing to do with raves but one of the most fun clubs I know of is Jackie 60 on tuesday nights. The music is _very_ housey. There are domanatrix go-go grrrrls. TV boys and girls. Paul Alexander on the mic Chi-chi Valenti is your hostess with the mostess Johnny Dynell on the wheels of steel. Usually there is somne kind of performance, most often in drag of some kind. The place is small, hot, sweaty and BIG PHUN. Crowd is the definition of mixed. Some of the indivials are sorta mixed, even. If I can get a nappy in tonight I'll be there. You can find me next to the dj booth, most of the time. yaaaaaaaay woof ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:42:46 EDT Reply-To: aboulanger@ldgo.columbia.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@LAMONT.LDGO.COLUMBIA.EDU From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Tuesday nights in NYC In-Reply-To: David McMahon's message of Tue, 21 Jun 1994 12:40:39 EDT <9406211642.AA15730@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> What's going on in the city tonight? My brother's heading in and is looking for something to do. I'm not familiar with the mid-week techno happenings in New York. Any suggestions? Ok. I don't know how this is going to turn out because of the weather today, but Wetlands, 161 Hudson St, is having a Solstice Drum Procession to the Hudson River starting at 6:30 PM today. Their number is 212-966-4225. Regards, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@ldeo.columbia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 16:41:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: sorry about the mixup (snuggles mixtape) hey, i realized after i posted that it seemed the tape i was advertising was *my* tape, when actually i was just forwarding the post as a favor to my friend mike shum (dj snuggles)... so to get more information on the tape or to get one...email: shum@merle.acns.nwu.edu got it? good. :) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:00:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: plastik, work it!/natural rhythm, and other conflict hey folx.... allrite...i should be at plastik in philly on friday (yay!) (just to see you nigel...:P) now...i will be going to natural rhythm instead of work it! because i think natural rhythm is the better party of the two...for $20 ($25 at the door) you get a *30* hour outdoor party...with djs like scott and robbie harkiss, dante, on-e (he *better* be there), wink, and scott henry (i am pretty sure that both wink and scott henry will be at both parties, since they can spin late sets at natural rhythm) also dave trance, frankie bones, and sun...:) also, natural rhythm is "45 minutes north of baltimore" which should put in about an hour at most away from philly...(i think :) we have danced indoors all this past winter and spring...summer is all about being outside and having fun...if youve never been to an outdoor party, you're really missing out and you should try to get to this one...and it really is a better value for your hard earned money... only 2 worries about natural rhythm...the weather...will modern music have tents or something set up in case of bad weather (are they online yet? i really hope/wish they are)...and they *better* have the djs they promised there, some of them are double billed at both parties, which doesnt worry me b/c of the proximity of both parties, but specifically wink, scott henry, and on-e are the ones im talking about....wink and scott henry made it to the natural rhythm flyer, while on-e was left out...(but not out of their flyer on the r-o-m)...a friend of mine called up modern music and asked them if on-e was gonna be there even tho he was left off the flyer...they said yes..i really hope they werent lying. :/ the only reason im going on soo much about on-e is that he rocked me at both casper and when i last saw him at rave the bay...i really want to see him again. soooooo (they call me the rambling man)...:) is anyone gonna be at both plastik and natural rhythm? :) where are u staying if so? we could arrange to hang out in philly before heading out to natural rhythm...or something....please get back to me... me email is: hae2@po.cwru.edu (melzie consider this an addition to the rom...at natural rhythm wil be me, mikebee, justin(cutlet), and mikebees cool sis--crisbee(cristina) she was at rave the bay...) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 pittsburgh pa **big phat bass soaked beats** vrave: sphinx Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducation entropyedificationetc *its all about the vibe...* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 17:35:24 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: seerraques... Hey folks. are there any mad souls from Syracuse on here? I know there used to be, but you know, it's summer and all now. If so, where is Club Chameleon and is it any good? I hear Sundays aren't bad.... If it's down, I might just have to be up... :^) -a al peacetosoul,soultopeace,peacetosoul,backtopeace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 14:56:47 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kathryn Ankrum Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kathryn Ankrum Subject: NYC Parties? Hello East Coast Friends, Several of my fellow San Francisco ravers are visiting New York this week. I'm posting to your list on their behalf. They would like to hit a few parties while in NY, so I'm asking for your advice as to where they should go. They would prefer more "underground" events (nothing over-commercialized or too clubby). Music preferences are progressive house, tribal, trance. Good vibe essential!! I'd really appreciate any suggestions/recommendations. And if any of you are headed out to San Francisco, I'd be happy to return the favor. Thanks very much. Peace, Kathryn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 18:47:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: work it! hang out/afterparty/crash space? hey kids, i'm still not sure if i will be at work it! (probably, but i need to find some quick cash), but since i only live 30 min outside of philly, i'd be happy to put together some sort of hang-out/crash space plan for people in search of rest... let me know if you'd be interested, cause im not sure yet... jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:49:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Apology for bouncing.. I kinda recieved WAY too much personal mail today and my quota bounced up.... so...well...it's back to normal and I'm sorry for any bounces from my account :) Love ya dearly... Melzie aka Who else is coming to Funks tonight to play? :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 21:07:53 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: NE:Raves Video In-Reply-To: <199406211539.LAA02855@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Alan Michael Parry wrote: > What the hell is happening with this thing? sorry foe being the tiniesy > bit frustrated but its been about a years since I last asked :) > Pllleeeeeaaaaaaasseeee lets get it moving again. Yes, please! But I am not sure who has it anymore and if they are even on the list. I am the admin and I don't even have an archival copy. :( But then again I no longer have a VCR. Who had it last? Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 23:18:12 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: plastik, work it!/natural rhythm, and other conflict On Tue, 21 Jun 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > allrite...i should be at plastik in philly on friday (yay!) (just to see > you nigel...:P) Hmm, I think I am gonna try to make this party too. Mel, put me on the HOM? > now...i will be going to natural rhythm instead of work it! because i think > natural rhythm is the better party of the two...for $20 ($25 at the door) I would go to Work It! but I don't think I want to be that far north for too long. Natural Rhythm, well, I wont be making that party unless someone really needs me to be there or the ticket is gratis. > we have danced indoors all this past winter and spring...summer is all > about being outside and having fun...if youve never been to an outdoor > party, you're really missing out and you should try to get to this > one...and it really is a better value for your hard earned money... Amen my brother.. Outdoors is where I want to be now, just wish it was a multi-day festival like Wild. Wish they were easier to put on and more people did it, I know I would cut my eye teeth to go to another party with even half the vibe of Wild. > only 2 worries about natural rhythm...the weather...will modern music have > tents or something set up in case of bad weather (are they online yet? i > really hope/wish they are)... 1. Modern Music is online at modernmus@aol.com. I have heard tell that they print out the info coming over NE Raves and other sources and have it available at the store. 2. Folks who are planning on this outdoors party, watch out. The weather in the DC/Baltimore area has been really freaky lately. Lots of electrical storms, lots of sudden heavy downpours. I don't know what the weather system is like 45 minutes north of Baltimore, but I hope it is better than it is around here lately. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 05:32:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mortachi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mortachi Subject: techno well i have to say this is fun i just got through reading your thing in gopher and i got your e-mail adress threw it and i like what i read... my name is mark and i have been into the rave seen for about a year and a half now and i have been looking for something and i was wondering if you could help me out... basicly i am looking for any Apothiosis cds that i can find and i know from your reports that you seem to like the same music that i like and i would greatly appricate it if you can give me the adress of anywhere that i can find some... KEEP ON RAVING later Mortachi Mark ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 12:33:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: 2 lists i am currently subscribed to ne-raves and sf-raves and recieve too many letters a day to read so If anyone wants to send ME a letter and doesnt want it deleted before it even gets read then PLEEZE put my name in the subject so I know its for me and not all subscribers. thanks :) Cori ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 13:18:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CORI B IRWIN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CORI B IRWIN Subject: mexico scene? (fwd) According to ci119241: > From ci119241 Tue Jun 14 14:57:12 1994 > Subject: mexico scene? > To: ne-raves@umdd.umd.edu > Date: Tue, 14 Jun 1994 14:57:12 -0400 (EDT) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] > Content-Type: text > Content-Length: 161 I mailed this befor and im mailing it again :) > > i am going to mexico in mid august for a week and I was wonering if anyone has info about a scene in mexico city area... > any info will be helpful > thanks:) > Cori > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:04:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Squishy Info Line operational the Squishy Remote Brain Info Center will be operational in about 2 hours now. It will feature info on the squishy 'summer of dub' parties which are scheduled to start on saturday, the 25th of june. location and more info will be up on the info line. we will also be featuring info on other parties that we feel fit in the squishy realm. mail/leave a message on the line with details and we'll get back to you. the number is (617) 499-1925 (aka 499-1WAK) this summer you will feel loved. chris .-'~~~-. we cause .'o oOOOo`. pronoia :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: .......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' this'll stop ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow them shakes. ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple ___\\;_\\//_______ WWW: http://bazaar.com/dj/cmellow.hmtl fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 14:31:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: Apology for bouncing.. melzie, aw, darn...i happen to *like* you bouncing....so happy and energetic ;) -jason ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 15:41:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: Squishy Info Line operational In-Reply-To: <9406221805.AA28674@media.mit.edu>; from "secret agent #33" at Jun 22, 94 2:04 pm i want everyone to get excited about these parties especially you boston folk cause we need your support to make you happy and lots of $100 bills. -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 18:38:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Depeche Mode Tix... Cybertribe, Jenn-bug's little sister has two tickets for the Depeche Mode/Primal Screem concert at the Philadelphia Spectrum on Tuesday, June 28th. The price is $70 or best offer. Write me if you're interested at: a176@lehigh.edu Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:25:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Squishy Info Line operational In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 22 Jun 94 15:41:34 -0400. <9406221943.AA25027@MIT.EDU> >i want everyone to get excited about these parties >especially you boston folk >cause we need your support to make you happy Handi, I'd like to get excited because Boston's finally starting to make some noise, but there's been so little info about them on ne-raves. I hardly knew Squishy was throwing parties until couple of days ago. What kinda party is it gonna be? Rave? Net Party? Who's doing the music? What kinda location? Is it an all night affair? I guess all those questions aren't relevant, but it'd be nice to know a little more about what you guys are trying to do. I guess I might find out more about it when I call the info line. (Haven't done that yet) Well, afterall, I guess I am excited. Getting to dance somewhere close to you instead of travelling hours away to do it should be a nice change. JimmY |-|/\t (essential/condom/boston) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 00:35:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: plastik, work it!/natural rhythm, and other conflict In-Reply-To: <199406212104.RAA06569@holmes.umd.edu> Justin/cutlet and i will most certainly not be at natural rhythm. sorry. :( we are very sad about this and we hope that you will send us lots of hugs and kisses in sympathy. justin would prefer checks, please include driver's license number and other form of id. :) (cutlet+@cmu.edu) (mikebee@freenet.scri.fsu.edu) moi :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: --everybody's kung fu fighting-- ///////Kicks more flava than Mister Rogers' got neighbors//////// ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 01:39:18 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: PLUR Badge set.. Hey folks. I just uploaded the JPEG image of the PLUR badges to techno.stanford.edu. They are in the pub/raves/incoming/pics. The full set is there, but the quality isn't high as these are like 4th generation copies (scans, etc..) but you get the idea of what the things in the badge set looks like. The DC Raves badge I am helping with also has an image in there somplace. And in the same directory I have a series of three pictures of myself (these are good for a chuckle if you have time). Also there is an Escape Velocity picture. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 02:54:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Squishy Info Line operational In-Reply-To: <199406230425.AAA18397@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 23 Jun 1994, wrote: > Squishy was throwing parties until couple of days ago. What kinda party is it > gonna be? Rave? Net Party? Who's doing the music? What kinda location? Is > it an all night affair? I guess all those questions aren't relevant, but it'd i'll answer. its going to be an underground party. both me and rainbow cringed when a lady asked us if our parties were going to be "raves" today. not because i don't like the label "rave". but somehow raves have become something bigger. not in a warehouse, not without big name dj's, not in a loft, not with a hundred people grooving/talking/dancing. so these parties aren't going to be raves. they're underground parties. it won't matter who it is spinning, it'll matter who that is grinning. wow, i just made that up. yowza. anyways, they'll be outdoors/indoors/loud/quiet all different envirnonments depending on what we have to play with for the night. the first party might be outdoors, but we missed the full moon, and we heard a bad story about some kids who tries to have a fmr on a beach near boston (beat up by the police) but, since we live by the motto "stick it to the man" we'll probably be defying such odds. come get beaten up with us? chris .-'~~~-. we cause .'o oOOOo`. pronoia :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: .......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' this'll stop ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow them shakes. ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple ___\\;_\\//_______ WWW: http://bazaar.com/dj/cmellow.hmtl fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 03:18:17 -0400 Reply-To: Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM!!! [Middle Week] Well, those of you that missed Funks missed an AWESOME time!! A nihgt of coffee, Green Eggs and Ham, pregnant puppies, the Mad Magazine game..and a cool night of interesting talk on creative writing... But this weekend will prove to be KICK ASS!!! And I expect you all to be dancin! T'is where you'll find me! Love you! Melzie aka The Hazel-Eyed Kitten **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** The HOM stands for Hookup-O-Matic When: The list is posted Sunday nights and Wed nights. [more if needed] Purpose: To let others know which event you'll be at Allows them to mail you ahead of time to possibly meet up Might help choose which event to go to depending on if people you'd like to see will be there Gives more excitement to upcoming events Planning pre-parties Once enough people say they'll be at another event, someone might plan a pre-party or after-party, if so, it will say so by their login and you can mail them for more information if you're interested Finding crash space If you'll want a place to crash before your drive back, ravers in the area are usually more than happy to allow you to stay over at their places Getting Rides Finding people with available space in their car allows you to arrange a ride for yourself [with the help of the list] Supporting you net friends The list will name if the person is spinning, promoting, running smart bar etc... you can help support your net friends by possibly choosing to attend those events Mail: Mail melzie@wam.umd.edu with your information to be placed on te list Information needed: Login Other Aliases Real name Address [Phone number if you won't be arounda computer] If you need or can offer a ride, where from, how many If you need or can offer crash space and for how many If you're doing anything for the event If you'd like to have a pre or after party Key: N: Needs CR: Crash Space R: Ride O: Offers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, June 24 PLASTIK Philly ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peppermint Patty [N:CR 3] peppermint@delphi.com DanFREElove anarchy@eng.umd.edu Will-E [N: R-New York 2] will@panix.com Hossam hae2@po.cwru.edu Denard [Spinning] Nigel [Spinning] nigel611@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, June 24 NEAU Manchaster, NH ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ Entox aka John djentox@aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, June 25 WORK IT! Philly ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie melzie@wam.umd.edu Ali Nigel [Spinning] nigel611@aol.com Gabriella [N: R-CT 2] a176@lehigh.edu Dave Sklar [N: R-CT would take train] sklar-dave@cs.yale.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, June 25-26 NATURAL RHYTHM North of B-more ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chad Day [N:R-Fairfax or Metro stop] btc@PEN.K12.VA.US Gabriella [N: R-CT 2] a176@lehigh.edu Hossam hae2@po.cwru.edu Mikebee Crisbee/Cristina CCherry aka Scott ccherry@mason1.gmu.edu jgerbe1@umbc.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, July 2 DELTA 4 Philly ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Richards [Spinning/Promoting] nigel611@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ August 28 ARIA North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenn-Bug [Doin Smart Bar] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 03:21:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: plastik/natural rhythm ill be at these parties...who else will be? either both of them or just one.... let me know...we'll dance...:) ps- anyone got any suggestions for meeting places at natural rhythm? il come up with a few tomorrow... peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 03:30:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: meeting place at n.r. i dont know where, but 1am seems like the best time to me (looking at the lineup) peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 19:18:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: Re: Sputnik I think this needed to get to the list, not just me; sorry I didn't have the info `-{( -------->snip<-------- Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 13:56:18 -0500 (EST) From: WO AI TAYLOR To: pics!david.darrow By the way... does anyone off hand hae a phone number for the Mid Hudson Civic Center? I'd like to call and see if my bag showed up at lost and found... :) sun(flower) ------->unsnip<------- --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jun 1994 19:18:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: OK, I'll type the camp ea Balu, who brought you Casper, presents: CAMP EARTH: 43 Billion Acres of Fun! planetary convergence on...7/9/94 Rocky Point Park-Warwick, RI 8pm to 8am Camp I: Wink, James Christian, Frankie Bones, Guy DMC, Twist, Scott Richmond, 333, Reload, Nigel Richards, DJ Sun, Shining Cloud, Mr. Kleen Camp 2: DJ ICEE, Scott Henry, Carlos, Dutch, Micro, Debo, Osheen, M-Gee, Joeski, Ryde, Mood, Who Ambient: Entity, EBN (ambient??!!) Afterhours: Noah, Ambassador, Sir Charles, Alias Visuals: Melon Dezign, ENO-ONE Smart Bar: Carbonated Holy Water, after party until 5pm FREE RIDE: All rides will be free from 8pm on Saturday until 8am Sunday, including: Freefall, Skydiver, Cyclone, Loop-D-Loop, Arcades, Waterflume, Bumper Cars, Enterprise---20 RIDES IN ALL Camp FeelGood: Camping available 4pm friday until 5pm sunday. You must have a camping pass. Recive your pass by sending $5 to: Camp Earth, P.O. Box 803, Nashua NH 03061 Sorry no open fires or alcohol allowed. Friday night Tribal Gathering-8pm: bring drums. RV parking available/Hotels nearby. TICKET OUTPOSTS-Advanced tickets are available at: Boston: Allston Beat 617.421.9555 New Hampshire: Headlines 603.882.7813 Providence: Lunasea 401.272.5862 NY: Groove 718.714.5232 Philly: 611 Records 215.413.9100 You can now mail order your tickets thru 7/4/94. Send check or MO with SASE PDQ to: Camp Earth, P.O. Box 803, Nashua NH 03061 Make checks payable to "Balu Entertainment" $18-->until 6/25/94 $23-->until 7/8/94 $23-->at the door Directions: from the north, take I-95 south to exit 14: Warwick. Take Post Rd. South. After 3 traffic lights, turn left on Airport Rd. Follow signs to Rocky Point Park. From the south, take I-95 north to exit 10: east to 117 east, Follow signs to Rocky Point Park. Info: Balu 401.454.6020, Rocky Point Park 401.737.8000 The ability to think is God's gift to you...what you think about, is your gift to yourself! --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 06:13:56 -0900 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , e d w a r d l u n a Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: e d w a r d l u n a Subject: CORI IRWIN:mexico scene Some long esoteric bullshit ramblings from a dissapointed rave seeker.......... (sorry, but it's fruitful, Cori) Unfortunately I cant' say there's much of a scene in Mexico City. I go to the DF each year and have yet to find anything "ravey." Consider this, however: Mexico is a violent, repressed society, similar to our own, but different in that poverty is more widespread and the government (especially police) has much more direct control over people's lives. I learned this the hard way as a cousin down there was framed for cocaine possession BY THE POLICE. Also our family station wagon was snagged in 1988 and later seen (by the same cousin) driven by city detectives! Let's face it: rave rebellion is, partially, a reaction to the dominant shit which we have to swallow: grunge, stupid gov't that thinks it matters, media representation (ie unrealistic expectations of women's perfection, caricature or assimilation of African-Americans, caricatures of drugged out ravers, and so on), and a whole host of bullshit. Rave culture is unique in that many of us are disgusted by all of the waste and bullshit of our parents and gov't and society, so we just want to talk a bit and dance our asses off. In Mexico the conditions are different, so for them, dressing like Bon Jovi is rebellious--because they are in a society that wishes it could acheive the standard of living we take for granted. So necessarily they imitate what is popular up here, and naturally any "rave" in Mexico would probably be totally "aquired" from the outside and therefore fake. My suggestion to you is to try to find the late-night cafes (I never have a car when I go so I haven't found any good ones), and especially to learn a bit about the culture while you're there. I have found it a inexhausible source of inspiration. Frida Kahlo's house in Coyoacan is a must-see, the Diego Rivera murals by the Zocalo, the sheer _Indianness_ of the faces of the people, the Metro (which is better than Bart Marta or NY subway any day), Chapultepec Park (kicks the pants off of Central Park), and other innumerable shit to mention. Every time I come back from Mex I feel a bit guilty in indulging in such a "frivolous" thing such as a RAVE, considering most people down there can't even afford to think about bying CD's or records(though somehow they do anyway...), but ultimately I realize a kind of intimacy with the people, "dirty," "ugly" and "disgusting" as they are, which relates directly to the primal feelings of a kickin' rave. I guess I can't quantify it (and this is starting to sound like an SF-Raves post!) but being surrounded by brown people who are so obviously a mix between their conquerors (Aragon and Castille in Spain) and their own culture (Aztec, Maya, Olmec, Toltec, etc) is something which is difficult to quantify. So in short, you may be annoyed about the lack of a scene and the lack of our "standard of living" (there are too many damn people in that city!), but still I think it can be immensely rewarding on a spiritual level. In other words, put up with their "backwardness" and see the people as they are: Americans like us. They need to learn how to live and govern themselves before they can rave. We haven't done a much better job, in my opinion. Besides, they already know how to party very well thank you! Mr. Preaching Guru (UGH!!) ++ *edward luna* PS: try to find someone at UNAM or Politecnico Universities--I believe they are on the World Wide Web thingamabobber...the US Embassy (in phone book) can probably help, look under EMBAJADAS--ESTADOS UNIDOS or EU or EEU. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 09:24:37 +0100 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Squishy Info Line operational At 2:54 AM 6/23/94 -0400, secret agent #33 wrote: >these parties aren't going to be raves. they're underground parties. it >won't matter who it is spinning, it'll matter who that is grinning. wow, >i just made that up. yowza. >come get beaten up with us? i still think Rave is a hair spray, so that sounds right to me. being beaten in boston with you guys sounds like a lot of fun. i'll be spending the rest of my summer trying to figure out what Handi see's in a bunch of ascii characters, so i'm not sure which parties i'll make, but i'll check the squishy line often (from work, of course), to see what's happening... you guys *must* make boston a squishy mark on everyone's map!! squid =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= --- I need me a (wo)man who can hold my big toe until I have to go =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 09:46:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David A Gallant Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David A Gallant Subject: Re: Squishy Info Line operational In-Reply-To: <199406231321.JAA20920@holmes.umd.edu> from "Phil Z" at Jun 23, 94 09:24:37 am > >these parties aren't going to be raves. they're underground parties. it > >won't matter who it is spinning, it'll matter who that is grinning. wow, > >i just made that up. yowza. > > >come get beaten up with us? > > i still think Rave is a hair spray, so that sounds right to me. being > beaten in boston with you guys sounds like a lot of fun. ....hell...i can not think of anything better than geting beaten up in boston with handi and the "boston kru"....so i am going to every party i can... permitting i was not beat up too bad the week-end before!! >>>>>>>> you guys *must* make boston a squishy mark on everyone's map!!<<<<< ...summer of phun out of the sun... **SEE EVERYONE THERE!*** -LETTUCE BEE ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 03:18:16 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , De Hearticle Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: De Hearticle Poseur Organization: not exactly a synonym for this boy Subject: Re: techno hey buddy there are no "apothosis" cds because the band(?!as shite. ::::::::::::::::::: boom bap past electro future De Hearticle Poseur he is: K Rock-Ski! kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Electro808@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:36:21 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Yet Another Boston Party I'm so glad there are so many underground events starting up in the New England area. First Minor Infraction, the Neau Parties, Squishy Parties, and now, to start off the new school year ESSENTIAL PRODUCTIONS brings you a night of: PLUR September 17 Confirmed dj's (so far): dieselBoy (Pittsburg) Donato (Massachusetts) -Pittsburgh's Breakbeat King -House of Lordvale WILL-E (NYC) Mellow (Boston) -Launch Pad, Mantras -Squisy Mind Designs Casper (Boston) JimmY |-|/\t (Condom) -NE Breaks Collective '94 -Essential We don't have all the info yet, so here's the deal: We've been looking at some spaces in the Downtown Boston area and the Cambridge area. Things look very hopeful. Nothing fancy, just underground. Any dj's interested in spinning or helping out in any way, please contact me by email: soundz@athena.mit.edu I realize it's a little early to post for a September party, but I want to have everything set as early as possible so if we run into problems later, we can fix it. Well, this post is to inform ne-raves public of what we're planning and to possibly get people's reactions. People? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 13:50:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David A Gallant Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David A Gallant Subject: Re: Yet Another Boston Party!!! In-Reply-To: <199406231736.NAA23775@holmes.umd.edu> from "NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU" at Jun 23, 94 01:36:21 pm > > I'm so glad there are so many underground events starting up in the New England > area. First Minor Infraction, the Neau Parties, Squishy Parties, and now, to > start off the new school year ESSENTIAL PRODUCTIONS brings you a night of: > > PLUR September 17 > > Confirmed dj's (so far): > > dieselBoy (Pittsburg) Donato (Massachusetts) > -Pittsburgh's Breakbeat King -House of Lordvale > > WILL-E (NYC) Mellow (Boston) > -Launch Pad, Mantras -Squisy Mind Designs > > Casper (Boston) JimmY |-|/\t (Condom) > -NE Breaks Collective '94 -Essential > > > Well, this post is to inform ne-raves public of what we're planning and to > possibly get people's reactions. People? > ...anything in the boston area is more than welcome....maybe with all these up- coming events we can give the boston scene (or therefore, lack of a boston scene) a great big kick in the pants..... -lettuce bee... ****** i am in love with a squishy, and a squishy is in love with me ********* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 15:39:02 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: Squishy Info Line operational In-Reply-To: <9406231346.AA26598@media.mit.edu>; from "David A Gallant" at Jun 23, 94 9:46 am um ok -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 21 Jun 1994 19:09:42 -0300 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: !!FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ... .FAQ!! !!FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ....FAQ!! !!welcome to ne-raves!! your internet connection to the world of raving :) (this sheet incorporates comments through JUNE 14) (send me stuff you want added, listed, corrected, etc or stuff (you would like clarified. my address is (mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu. the subject line should be as the (first line of this file or something dramatic.) (if you would like to take over a section please let me know. i will (remove my section and reference you as the appropriate source.) -------------------------------------------------------------------- I. Intro II. Basic Sign-Off & Calendar-Only Instructions and Net Etiquette III. ne-raves List Services IV. the Internet Guide V. More rave or *related* lists VI. Music A. Labels B. Radio Shows VII. Music Stores VIII. Support your Tribe: Artists, DJ's, Promoters, Zines & Smart Bars IX. Acronymns X. Web Sheets XI. List Admin Acknowledgements XII. GEAR A. Turntables, carts, mixers B. Lighting XIII. Party Favors XIV. Clubs -------------------------------------------------------------------- I. Intro This is a bi-weekly frequently asked question (FAQ) sheet. This will be a brief intro to our list and a pointer to other information you might want. if you have something to add, send me a message at mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu. if you'd like to manage a section, e.g. record labels, rave lists, then send me a note stating the section you want to manage. i'll place your e-mail address at that section of the faq sheet as the appropriate contact. congratulations on finding this list. you are part of something special--a cybertribe. we are comprised of people who were around when the list was started out of mit in may 92 and of people who joined more recently. as you may well guess, time diversity and a net conncection is only the smallest facet of our profile. we are artists, scientists, musicians and people who still have to decide who they are. the common thread here is that we love raving and we're invested in the scene in some way--promoting, producing, creating or experiencing. -------------------------------------------------------------------- II. Basic Sign-Off & Calendar-Only Instructions and Net Etiquette to leave this list, send mail to "listserv@umdd.umd.edu". put only the following text in the message body: "signoff neraves". you already receive the ne-raves calendar as part of your list subscription. if you want to leave the list and still receive the calendar, leave the list as described earlier and send mail to "majordomo@techno.stanford.edu". put only the following text in the message body: "subscribe ne-raves-calendar". now for a little net etiquette (netiquette). we do become polarized on issues and dialog is important for growth and understanding. needless flaming is unacceptable as well as boorish grandstanding. finally, this is a an advertisement free list. however we appreciate a good, fair offer of goods and services from time to time. if you have something to offer that is not already listed in a faq sheet, go ahead and make the post. if its out of bounds we'll let you know. too, if description is too long, just state the gist of your offering and ask people to respond directly to you for more info. for example, letting the list know that half your record collection is for sale is better than itemizing your catalog. -------------------------------------------------------------------- III. ne-raves List Services the rave-o-matic (ROM) is the weekly rave calendar maintained by inhuman and published on this list. if you have flyer/event info, you may mail that information to michael. he'll add it to the ROM. melzie maintains the hook-o-matic (HOM). if you're going to an event, need a ride to an event or whatever, send a message to melzie. she'll add your info to the HOM which is published weekly on this list. jetta maintains the birthday-o-matic (BOoM). if you're going to have a birthday this year, let jetta know. she maintains a list of birthday's by month which is distributed to the list. hopefully, on your b-day, the tribe will remember to send you b-day wishes & stuff (nobody remembered mine; i must be hated :( ) the hook-o-matic address is melzie@WAM.UMD.EDU the rave-o-matic address is inhuman+@CMU.EDU the bithday-o-matic address is vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------- IV. the Internet Guide Machine Media <0005995336@mcimail.com> will manage this. his faq sheet will contain information on vrave, file transfer protocol (FTP) and sites, internet relay chat (IRC), wide area information service (WAIS), WEB, image transfer/viewing, gopher, etc. -------------------------------------------------------------------- V. More rave or *related* lists Below are addresses for other rave related lists. typically there are two types of list. the discriminator is the level of list automation. in case one, a person-the list admin--manages the list. in case two, software manages the list with some degree of list admin support. case one: sometimes the list admin has written original code to handle subscription requests and in other cases the list admin deals directly with subscription requests. you may send your subscription request to the following addresses, but keep the verbiage to a minimum, e.g. your message text could say "subscribe . too, give the list admin some time to handle your request. subscription address (list region) -------------------------------------- ausraves-request@lsupoz.apana.org.au (australian list) dcraves-request@american.edu (washington, dc list) detroit@freenet.fsu.edu (detroit) nw-raves-request@wimsey.bc.ca (north west list) pb-cle-raves-request@telerama.pgh.pa.us (pittsburgh-cleveland list) seraves-request@american.edu (south east list) socal-raves-request@ucsd.edu (southern calif. list) v-raves-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu (v-rave list) case two: the list admin is using code which automates most list overhead. in this case, you must send all your requests to the subscription address. send a help request to the subscription address for server details (only the word "help" in the message body). if your adventurous, try the following formula in the message body: "subscribe " or "sub ". you should only send info/help/subscribe requests to the list as a LAST resort. subscription address list address (list name) (list purpose or region) ------------------------------------------------ listserv@american.edu seraves@american.edu (seraves) (south east list) listserv@american.edu dcraves@american.edu (dcraves) (washington, dc list) listproc@dhp.com bpm@dhp.com (bpm) (dj list) listserv@orbital.demon.co.uk uk-dance@orbital.demon.co.uk (uk-dance) (british list) majordomo@xmission.com mtnraves@xmission.com (Mountainstates--CO, Utah, NM) listserv@umdd.umd.edu ne-raves@umdd.umd.edu (ne-raves) (new england) majordomo@techno.stanford.edu sfraves@techno.stanford.edu (sfraves) (bayarea--nothern calif. list) listserv@csd4.csd.uwm.edu mw-raves@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (mw-raves) (mid-west rave list) listserv@csd4.csd.uwm.edu mw-raves-cal@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (mw-raves) (mid-west rave calendar list) -------------------------------------------------------------------- VI. Music A. Labels techno is an evanescent scene, so to recommend a particular collaboration is foolhardy and to recommend an artist is unfair to all the others. i think the better bet is to pay attention to labels. try the following labels with the caveat that the sub-genres are as myriad as the artists, i.e. this is not complete. acid---------------->EXperimental, diatomic, chocci's choons, peace frog, labworks, +8, accelerate, DJAX ambient------------->caroline, fax, instinct, recycle or die, apollo, silent, after 6 am, recycle or die breakbeat----------->suburban base, reinforced, moving shadow, white house, knite force, rey-D, production house gabberhouse--------->Drop Bass Network, Rotterdam Records, knor, bonzai hard-core----------->fax, mokum, vortex, delerium brooklyn hard-core-->Industrial Strength Records house--------------->Strictly Rhythm, inner city, peace frog, nervous, eight ball, junior boy's own, tomato, tribal, murk, arctic, nation, emotive progressive--------->stress, zoe magick, exist dance, sabres of paradise, limbo, guerrilla, soma, sorted, skunk, hard hands, see saw,Freaky Deaky, Warp, hardkiss trance-------------->rising high, eye-q, fax, +8, direct drive, tension, instinct, EXperimental, R&S, warp sabres of paradise, basic channel hard trance--------->harthouse, fax, harthouse, , esp, B. Radio Shows city | station | dj | day | time boston | wbrs 100.1fm | haZard | wed | 23:30-02:00 boston | wzbc 90.3fm | bruno | thu | 22:00-00:00 boston | wzbc 90.3fm | | thu | 17:00-18:00 boston | wzbc 90.3fm | | sun | 00:00-06:00 boston | wzbc 90.3fm | matt | mon | 16:00-18:00 boston | wzbc 90.3fm | andrew | mon | 18:00-02:00 -------------------------------------------------------------------- VII. Music Stores A. USA Boston Beat - boston/east boston 617.247.2428 Planet X Music - new brunswick, nj 908.249.0304 spikepx@aol.com Vintage Vinyl - eatontown, nj 908.517.0990 Vintage Vinyl - fords, nj 611 Records - philly, pa 215.413.9100 NigelR611@AOL.COM Groove Records - brooklyn, ny 718.714.5232 Modern Music - baltimore, md Musicnow Records - dc 202.638.1213 Subtopia (Liquid Sky) - nyc 212.431.6718 Disc-O-Rama - nyc 212.206.8417 VinylMania - nyc 212.924.3309 Eight Ball - nyc 212.473.6343 Dance Trax - nyc 212.260.8729 in more detail: Dance Trax 91 East 3rd St., corner of First Ave. (212)260-8729 Strictly a 12" store. As you walk in there's a big couch to relax on. The selection is good but limited to mostly domestic deep house and ambient. The staff are friendly and reasonably knowledgeable. I went with a list of domestic tribal house records I was looking for but they either didn't have it or wouldn't be getting it because it was "too hard" or didn't know about it. I thought this was quite ironic because when I had a look through their stacks, I found a bunch of other tribal house records on the same labels and just as hard as the records I was looking for. Listening options are through the DJ at the counter (on a Technics 1100, the pre-1200, check it out!) or through two separate 1200s with headphones each. *6 to Astor Place, walk south 3rd St then east or N or R to 8th St Decadance 119 Christopher St (212)691-1013 Disc-O-Rama 186 West 4 St. (main) 40 Union Square East (Annex) (212)206-8417, (212)260-8616 On the main floor are the CDs & much of it is devoted to trade-ins. Head downstairs to where the vinyl is. Behind the counter they have a little of everything but predominantly house. If you look through the stacks, you'll find almost every EXperimental & Exist Dance record there. There are sections for techno and house where you can find some good records with patience. They also have a section of what looks like bootlegs of some very old house classics which they will not play. DJs Ryde & Osheen are more helpful than other staff but the store tends be crowded. The only listening options are through the DJ only for vinyl; none for CDs. *1 or 9 to Christopher St./Sheridan Square. Walk east onto 4th St. Downtown Records 164 West 25 (212)924-5791 Eight Ball 105 East 9 St. (212)473-6343 As you walk in there are a number of trade magazines & a few tables for you to sit & relax. Although their speciality is, surprise, Eight Ball Records - their own house label, you'll be able to find *some* techno here amidst all the domestic house as well as some rareities if you take the time to go through the stacks there. In front of the DJ are all the Eight Ball white labels & test pressings. Listening options are through the DJ or a Technics 1210 on the side of that counter. Very few CDs. *6 to Astor Place, walk north a block to 9th St or N or R to 8th St Groove Records 64 Avenue U Brooklyn, NY (718)714-5232, (718)714-1832 fax A bit out of the way but you'll find all the hard trance, hard acid & hardcore your heart desires. You can also find some great underground trance & Detroit influenced techno. Listening is only through the DJs: Jimmy Crash & Adam X who are friendly & knowledgeable. Don't let the high counter intimidate you. You'll should be able to find many records from Jimmy's label, Direct Drive, there. Also look for an excellent zine called "Under One Sky" put out by DJ Heather Heart. Beat the crowd that comes in on the weekend & buys everything in the store. No credit cards & no CDs. *N train to Ave U in Brooklyn, come out and turn right, walk two blocks, it's on the left. Planet X 308 George St. New Brunswick, NJ 08901 (908)249-0304, (908)249-0064 fax Although it is located near central New Jersey, this store is worth a visit. For underground music, this is the place to go. "The Digital Deviants" specialize in imported techno & carry everything from progressive house & trance to acid & hardcore including a large selection of house & hip-hop but little to no breakbeat. I hear they do excellent mail order service & are always timely. They carry a large selection that goes quick but feel free to order anything & they will definitely have lots of other stuff for you to check out while you're there. They carry a good selection of CDs but no listening options for them. In the back they have two 1200s set up with headphones each so that you can get a stack & listen to them at your own pace. Look for an great zine called "Base 10" which is mostly record reviews but comes out sporadically. They also have t-shirts & other supplies. *NJ Transit train from Penn Station to Trenton stops in New Brunswick right on George St. Rebel Rebel 319 Bleeker St. 989-0770 This isn't your typical 12" store. In fact it's more on the alternative CDs side of things but you can find all sorts of techno 12" albums, singles & CDs every week that you may not be able to find anywhere else. However, prices are a bit on the expensive side. If you're looking for ambient or some of the more popular British & sometimes German imports then check it out. Listening options are through the salesman (who is usually busy) & is limited to one turntable/CD player integrated unit. The store is small & usually quite crowded so you may have to wait a long time to hear all your selections. Also carries British music magazines and newspapers. *1 or 9 to Christopher St./Sheridan Square. Walk west one block & just south Rock & Soul Seventh Ave. If you head towards the back past the audio equipment, you'll find mostly deep house & not much more. Listening options are through the DJ on one turntable crammed into a corner where people crowd around to listen. *just a few blocks north of Penn Station Subtopia, inside Liquid Sky 241 Laffayette St. (212)431-6718 Go past all the overpriced fasion & the club kids & take the spiral staircase down. You'll find stacks & walls of records divided & labeled by category: hardcore, breakbeat, progressive house, trance, tribal, deep house, ambient, experimental... but don't ultimately trust their labels. As you probably know, sometimes a record can be hard acid on one side & ambient on the other. They have an excellent selection of imported CDs and CD singles. There are two turntables on the counter that aren't in great shape but they work if you prefer to hear the records yourself. They seem to have a large number of a limited selection. The store is owned by DJ Abraxas of Fierce Ruling Diva. *N or R to Prince St. station. walk east two blocks to Laffayette VinylMania 41 Carmine St. (212)924-3309, (212)463-7120 CD Center The techno store is long gone & now there's only a small wall at the main store. The specialty here is domestic deep house records & lots of it on the walls and stacks. In fact, ever since DJ Denard quit I don't think you'll find any techno in the store & if you do, chances are they won't play it for you. Listening options are 12" singles only, limited to 5 and through the DJ. If you take your time though, you can find some pretty progressive tunes here at reasonable prices. CDs are found in the small back room and the selection is decent but no listening options for them. *A, E, C & F, B, D, Q to W 4 St., walk south & around the block to Carmine ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- B. London Unity (Beak Street - Soho) BlackMarket (D'Arblay Street - Soho) Lucky Spinn (KIngs Road - Chelsea) C. Paris BPM (12, Rue Taillandiers) Rough Trade (Rue Cabronne) TSF (Rue des Taillanders) -------------------------------------------------------------------- VIII. Support your Tribe ARTISTS: Prototype909--->Instinct Label; taylor deupree at t808@PHANTOM.COM, jason at BPMF@DELPHI.COM, and dietrich at 1.8.7---------->to be signed; joe le sense at raver909@TELERAMA.LM.COM DJ'S: send me your info if you'd like to listed: hazard | brendan | acidy stuff | boston | mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu oz | oz | acid | boston | ol@berry.cc.brandeis.edu andy | andy | acid/breaks | florida | djagh@aol.com dan dc | dan | | n j | CLIFTODA@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU diesel | damian | breaks | pittsburgh| damian@CISLABS.PITT.EDU fresh blend| Matt| hardcore | | ST000912@BROWNVM.BITNET jimmy hat| jimmy | trance/prog | boston |soundz@athena.mit.edu laura | laura | acid/hard | sf | laura@soda.berkeley.edu speed demon | | hard acid | | vkuperma@MASON1.GMU.EDU will-e | will | progressive | nyc | will@panix.com PROMOTORS: send me your info if you'd like to listed: haZard promotions-------->boston; 617.499.1996 mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu John G------------------>dc; jgoldman@tmn.com Caffeine----------------->long island; spam; sashay@phantom.com digital deviants--------->new jersey; dan; CLIFTODA@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU mobile groove posse------>pittsburgh; inhuman; NASA--------------------->nyc; david wolfe; woof@panix.com Outer Space Productions-->new jersey; 908.506.9592, mars, a176@lehigh.edu trance fused------------->richmond, va; derek tiffany ultraworld--------------->DC; lonnie, ultraworld@AOL.COM ZINES: zine--------------->geo/ source/ e-mail base10------------->NJ; spike; btwelve@aol.com element------------>WI; todd sines; sines.3@osu.edu skreem------------->NH; dj entox; djentox@aol.com slurp!------------->PA; slurpraves@aol.com under one sky------>NYC; heather heart; 718.714.5232 wetware------------>NH; mark & rachel; rachelw@CHRISTA.UNH.EDU zoom--------------->PA; Jenn-bug; smed8781@ACAD.CSV.KUTZTOWN.EDU SMART BARS: liquid technology-->pa; Jenn-bug smed8781@ACAD.CSV.KUTZTOWN.EDU trilobite project-->ny; peppermint patty; 518.374.7925, 518.439.2904 peppermint@delphi.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- IX. Acronymns: ROAR: right of admission reserved ROTFL: rolling on the floor laughing IMHO: in my humble opinion PLUR: peace love unity respect Re: in response to /H: hugs /S: smooches -------------------------------------------------------------------- X. Web Sheets for now, for those who know. later on Hank Hughes will flesh out this section. http://rg.media.mit.edu/RG/RG.html http://www.tecc.co.uk/public/tqm/uk-dance/ http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/USER/ol/home.html -------------------------------------------------------------------- XI. List Admin Acknowledgements Much thanks go to: John Adams--founding list admin,__________,Brian Behlendorf, and Dan "Free"Love for keeping this list alive. -------------------------------------------------------------------- XII. GEAR This is the essential gear and prices you should expect to drop for good gear. You shouldn't cut your corners too hard, but you can still get by. For example, at a recent rave--Atlantis--the mixer used was a Realistic by radio shack. My skin crawled when i saw the mixer, but i couldn't tell the difference on the dance floor! A. Sound-- Turntables: Technics 1200 expect to pay about $400 new Mixer: Vestax Amp: Speakers: Headphones: Sony MV6 or Sony MDR-7506 B. Lighting-- Universe Stage Lighting----->nyc Big Apple Lights------------>nyc Intellibeams: TigerScans: Strobe: Racks: C. Projections-- Video Projector: Computer: Code: Film Projector: D. Lasers-- Laser Systems, NA (Gyro lights)--->Seth Langer@201.432.6832 HeNe Laser: Ar Laser: Crystals and Servo: Computer Interface: E. Environmentals-- Smoke/Fog: F. Companies: (see mobile beat magazine) Farralane Lighting--->nyc; -------------------------------------------------------------------- XIII. Party Favors Bring fruit, water, toilet paper, pillow, blanket, granola, vicks vapor rub and hearing protection. Beretta U.S.A. baffles for ear protection have been recommended. -------------------------------------------------------------------- XIV. Clubs T H E N E - R A V E S T E C H N O C L U B L I S T Allentown, PA -- Fri. Freight Yard / 333 Court St. (off 3rd & Hamilton) 215.433.0503 Baltimore -- Thurs. Tripotronic Groove (first Thursday of every month) at Paradox / 1310 Russell St. Fever (every other Thursday) / 1310 Russell St. 410.880.1166 Fri. Club Orpheus (Citrus Club) / 1003 East Pratt St. 410.880.1166 Boston -- Thurs. Venus (DJ Debo) / 11 Lansdowne St. 617.421.9595 Fri. Axis (DJ Debo) / 13 Lansdowne St. 617.262.2437 The Loft (DJ Mayhem + guest DJs) / 21 Stanhope St. Cleveland -- Fri. Alter House Smart Bar Sat. Smart Bar Sun. Metropolis Columbus -- Thurs. - Sat. 700 High Long Island -- Fri. Caffeine / 832-6 Grand Blvd. in Dix Hills 516.547.6137 Detroit -- Fri. Brainfish / 6321 Lincoln Sat. 1515 Broadway / 313.245.4785 Montreal -- Mon. Hard Rock Cafe (House Monday) Tues. Foufounes Electriques (Techno-Grave) / 87 Ste-Catherine St. East Paradise Garage / 382 Mayor Fri. Kleenex / Notre-Dames in old Montreal, near St-Denis Bigbang (Rave Wave) / 1400 Montcalm La Brique / 32 Ste-Catherine Sat. Foufounes Electriques (Techno-Grave) / 87 Ste-Catherine St. East DAX (Saturn 6) / Ste-Catherine and Sanguinet Sun. La Fac (Techno Rave) / Ste-Catherine and St-Hubert New Jersey (Union City I think) -- Wed. The Quarry / 201.947.6494 New Haven -- Sat. Bar / 254 Crown St. 203.495.8924 Tune Inn / 29 Center St. 203.865.9738 New York City -- Tues. Limelight (Communion [Techno/Industrial]) 20th St. & 6th. Ave. 212.807.7850 Flux / 169 Ave. A (between 10th & 11th) Wed. Limelight (DJ Keoki's "Disco 2000") 20th St. & 6th. Ave. 212.807.7850 Thurs. Limelight (dAncE EnErgY) / 20th St. & 6th. Ave. 212.807.7850 Peace (Acid House) / 185 Thompson St. bet. Bleecker & Houston Fri. The Shelter (N.A.S.A.) / 157 Hudson St. 212.330.8233 Limelight (Future Shock / Primal) 20th St. & 6th. Ave. 212.807.7850 Sat. UFO / 323 West Broadway between Canal & Grand (opens 4 am) Tilt (Nervous) / Varick St. Philadelphia -- Sat. and Mon. Vagabond 215.592.8481 Pittsburgh -- Thurs. and Sun. Metropol Providence -- Sun. Club Babyhead Rochester, NY -- Sat. Heaven (Techno Color) Minneapolis, MN -- Wed. First Avenue Thurs. The Parameter Sun. The Saloon Washington, DC -- Mon. Fifth Colvmn / 202.393.3632 Wed. Vault / 202.347.8079 Roxy / 202.296.9292 Thurs. Tracks / 202.488.3320 Fri. Roxy / 202.296.9292 Matrix / 56 L St. SE ------------------------------------------------------ Thanks for Content Editing: mars, terence, laura, dan, will-e, casper, derek, john, machine media ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 19:49:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: it was a phine day:) just thought i'd share my day with everyone: today i went to manhattan. i took the train and bopped in my seat most of the way down..i was listening to a tape of a good friend's radio show :) anyway, i got to disc-o-rama...exchanged something for a cd (material-temporary music 1979-1981) and met sharline chiang..the wonderful researcher:) phunnee that i instantly knew who she was without knowing her;) anyway, so we walked for a bit and ended up eating in a pizza place for the interview...went well..then we decided to walk more. sharline says "is there a store you want to go to?" i just smiled..so we walk and walk...and lo and behold...we go to liquid sky rekkids. oh, wow. i like that place:) we just chilled there for a while and chewed the phat with aldo hernandez, co owner with abraxas and also a local dj who spins saturdays at jackie60. anyway, he was cool and very amusing..he told us stories:) also, i bought the new cabaret voltaire 2 disc entitled "the conversation"..i'm listening to it as i am typing this...and my word! it's good. real relaxed and well, it's nice :) after liquid sky, we went shoe shopping only to not find exactly what sharline was looking for :( it was a really phun day, a little hot--heh, i was spritzing, but a real phine day. thanks sharline :) smiles- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 20:15:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: add to rom well, since i was in rekkid stores today in the city, i picked up a few flyers (even found one for work it! and it has photos of the dj's:) so i don't know if you guys know about this stuff, but i'll list it and you can add it to the rom or do with it what you will ;) ============================================================================== Friday, July 1 : Free Friday Ambient Party on NYC Rooftop you must be on the list, call 212.777.8012 Djs- reese dietrich spooky john hicks reade gon visuals by marco & eno-1 this is an Astralwerks Community Relations Project ****************************************************************************** Liquid Sky and Tex Present: Egg At Nell's 246 W 14th St. Btwn 7 & 8 Aves. (NYC) Every Tuesday Dj Soul Slinger plus guests Upstairs: Ambient Downstairs: Hip Hop/ House and Jungle 212.343.0532 ______________________________________________________________________________ Alan Sanctuary and the Primal Posses Present: F R E E D O M Saturday, July 2nd- NYC - 10pm to 10am this is a 2 yr anniversary party and the final primal event DJs: Wink Abraxas Soul slinger DJ Reese Happy Odi & Jojo Micro Ryde Joeski Dave Trance Damon Wild Mr. Kleen tix available at: NYC: Liquid Sky...212.343.0532 Bklyn: Groove...718.714.5232 NJ:Planet X...908.249.0304 Philly: 611...215.413.9100 S.I.: E.C.B...718.816.6826 tix are $14 advance * $18 at the door for location and directions call day of event: 212.696.8938 sorry, no water bottles allowed ****************************************************************************** hope some of you can make it to these events! goofy grins- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 11:33:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , binary sound Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: binary sound Subject: techno's WWW home page? can someone tell me what techno.stanford.edu's WWW home page is? if it has one, that is. (I just got Mosaic working, so if you have any other cool mosaic-esque things, i'd like to know them too =) thanks! john ---- j.sweeney jds@access.digex.net binary(sound) 01011011 ( i m p r i n t s ) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 23:55:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: Re: techno hmm, if yo're an Apothesis fan... i've got a bit of good news, and a bit of bad news... bad news is that Apothesis on CD is like a BMW in a junkyard... i.e.: you don't see that often. good news is that if you scrounge and scrounge, and scrounge the dusty, volumnious racks of vinyl in NYC's record stores, you might come across this nice little RARE Apothesis vinyl i spotted once. i asked the store DJ to spin it, but i regrettably passed it up. description: it has some cool artwork on the front, apocalyptic-looking with lots of reds. the one i spotted was an italian import, and it had a bunch of tracks i've NEVERheard of, or seen since.... i wish i could help you more, but for now... rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:01:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: Re: CORI IRWIN:mexico scene umm, well, yeah a friend of mine went to mexico for spring break and told me that there was a really kick-ass acid (trance) club in mexico... from the sounds of it, it was a nice place... i won't see her for a bit, but when i do, i'll ask her for the address, adn info on that club ok :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 00:04:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: techno's WWW home page? In-Reply-To: <199406240334.XAA29351@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 24 Jun 1994, binary sound wrote: > can someone tell me what techno.stanford.edu's WWW home page is? if it has > one, that is. (I just got Mosaic working, so if you have any other cool > mosaic-esque things, i'd like to know them too =) its at http://techno.stanford.edu/ for the time being.. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 19:51:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: meeting place at n.r. sorry for the cross post allrite heres the best solution i can think of...1am at the cafeteria...i really wanna catch the beginning of greg sargents set as well, so we can meet back there afterwards at 3:30...i know that late, but i dont knwo what else...? the best thing is when we know someone who has a booth or is doing lights/visuals/something, where we can all drop our gear and hang out, relax, etc...without having a pre determined meeting point coz thats never convenient for everybody...does anyone have any suggestions/offers along those lines? a little net.raver chill spot that u can go to if u wanna hang out with/meet the net ravers? josh? lonnie? myg? anyone got any bright ideas? otherwise, hows 1 and 3:30 sound in the cafeteria? tables nearest the entrance maybe? see ya. peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 23 Jun 1994 23:36:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: plastik/natural rhythm On 06-23-94, HOSSAM A. EL-SAIE wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU: HAE> ps- anyone got any suggestions for meeting places at natural rhythm? Where did you keep your bag from getting stolen @ Sputnik IV, Hossam? Of COURSE, meet at the DELIRIUM table, just look for the NE-RAVES "PLUR" badges (the 8.5"x11" ones) and lots of glowing stuff. Oh, I almost forgot, I will probably have 4" BLACKLIGHT LightStix, too! And don't forget to get some protection from me if you plan on having aural sex! d3 `-{> BTW, what time is everyone planning on showing up, it starts at noon so some people might want to meet before 1am. I will probably be there as it is starting. --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 05:07:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Subculture Tonight was the first of a weekly series of _free_ parties thrown at Caffeine on Long Island (516-242-1773). They feature no big name spinners, just some of the DJs from the LI underground. The guys were spinning mostly house and breaks tonight. And here I thought that nobody around here spun breaks anymore ... I was wrong. Very wrong. Breaks live on here in LI. One of the DJs even spun that bagpipe house song that Tin Tin played at Red. Around 1 AM, the PA act of Moonshine came on. They started off slow, and people at first cleared the dance floor when they began. But the momentum kept building, and as the beat of the music increased, so did the people. That elusive vibe was there, and I made some new friends. :) Interestingly enough, it turns out that one of the members of Moonshine is Dino, brother of the famous James Christian. I think there were around 150 people tops the whole evening. The party ended early; when I left at 4:30 the DJ was still playing and there were maybe 20 people left. Although the beatmatching of some of the DJs wasn't perfect, it was still a fun night. No hassle security, free water, no cover charge. You've gotta love it. Definitely check out Subculture on Thursdays. Also, that Drum party that Mark/Machine Media posted to the list a while ago is still going on. They've decided to make it a weekly event, and rumor has it that it's anothe fine weekly. Another also: the Natural High series of parties is starting again this year. Friday July 1st marks the first one. Lots of good DJs including Scott Henry, Frankie Bones, Dave Trance, Debo, Soulslinger, plus more. If anyone wants additional information, e-mail me for the details. Virtually yours, Bob "should be a PR agent for Caffeine" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 11:47:46 -0300 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: FAQ...........................................FAQ hi, you'll notice that the faq is getting larger and larger. soon i think it will get a little too large to reasonably post every 2-3 weeks. i think there are two solutions that i would like you to consider and offer your opinion. first, we can leave the faq completely intact and distribute it every 3-4 weeks except at the start of the academic year where it should probably go out weekly for a month. second, i could farm out sections to invested people and just have a pointer to that person (this was the original intent). what this means is that if you were interested in the sound equipment or lighting section (hint hint), you would flesh out that section and be responsible for maintaining it. after your section is complete, i would distribute it intact with the faq once. after that first distribution, i would have your e-mail address listed under that section. people interested in that section would e-mail you a request for that file. this would reduce the 24k faq to something much smaller and probably more readable. let me know what you think. thanks, haZard ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:20:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , TSIMPSON@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Terence Simpson Subject: ride to natural rhythm help!!! my two roommates Mike! & Jenni are desperate for a ride to B-more this weekend. They are willing to pay for gas/tolls/food/... Call them directly as I won't have access for that weekend. Some of you might know Mike! He does smart bars with Delmar (Red, limelight, living room, outlaw, bliss, ...) thanX terence the number is 718.797.5767 they can meet up with people anywhere around ny. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:34:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: for a good time call... 215.631.2666 ask for plastik...:) seriously, its the best time to be had on the east coast tonite for only $10...:) check it out... Friday, June 24th Philly, PA 215.631.2666 -A celebration of the techno generation. PLASTIK!! Featuring: Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Denard (NYC) Wink (Philly) Dieselboy (Pitt) Nigel Richards (Philly) $10 from 11pm till 8 am -House chillout upstairs all night long. NO BS, HYPE, ATTITUDE.....STRICTLY AWESOME TECHNO!! i really hope to see you there, it should be crazy phat...:) and we can beat up nigel too if you wanna. ;P have fun this weekend and stay safe. peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 14:50:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: argh! ARGH! Since I'm going to Plastik tonight in Philly, a number of people have been asking me if I'm going to Work It the next night. Well not to burst anyone's bubble but this is not the type of event that I would support. Special K productions does not have my blessings and here's why. One person in particular involved is/was a net person who practices shady business ventures (so much for PLUR). I confronted him one night at a rave and he just laughed. He deserves one big punch in his fat smug face for the dirty deals he gets up to. Anyway... I see Nigel Richards & Wink (the 611 Records crew) throwing very reasonably priced ($8 - $10) & very sucessful parties in Philly. You would think that someone who sides with the ne-raves values would throw an event that didn't cost $18 at the door. The sound at the first Special K Productions was terrible and badly placed. The venue (a gym) and the security wasn't that great either. In addition we couldn't bring in water. The flyer for Work It says strict searches too. sigh... I'm sorry but for someone who pretends to be contributing to the scene, they're not. I've been on this list since damn near when it started and I'm just sick of people who get on ne-raves, act all hip & "down with the underground" and down with PLUR, advertise their parties for free on the net so that we can all show up and in the end, they aren't any better than the other massive rave organizers. I find this very discouraging; scene & vibe killing... not to mention *hypocritical* I say put your money where your mouth is. Sorry for the flame but I just had to speak my peace. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 13:15:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: plastik/natural rhythm david "my buddy" darrow wrote : >BTW, what time is everyone planning on showing up, it starts at noon so >some people might want to meet before 1am. I will probably be there as it >is starting. me, method1 and derek tiffany will be there at 5pm. peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:55:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chris Lee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chris Lee Subject: Directions to ANDROMEDA Directions to ANDROMEDA, KNOXVILLE TN, JUNE 25 These directions come from my partner, who is co-promoting this event: From Nashville: Take I-40 East to Knoxville Take Exit 392, which is "Rutledge Park", when exiting, bear left. Turn left at the end of ramp, go past Shoney's, stay in right lane.Go thru 2 stop lights, after the second lite, make a RIGHT onto Lakeside Drive. Go about 50 feet to the dead end. Go left into Tennessee Valley Fairgrounds. Go around back to a big lue and tan building across from the Golden Gloves Arena. Venue is the Chill/Highway Park Exhibition Center 40000 sq. ft. air-conditioned, legal, fully-permitted facility. For upates, call Knoxville hotline # is 615-588-4996, Nashville hotline 615-780-3730 Maps available in Knoxville at Underdog Records or Raven Records (both on Cumberland Avenue), or Gemtone Video. Radio station Z94 FM will also be announcing. peas out chris anode -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Chris Lee America Online: chris136 PO Box 22621 ANODE POPGRAFIX & RAVE PROMOTION Nashville,TN 37202 raveline:615-780-3730 clee@theporch.raider.net ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 10:49:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: I'm in dc/va wat's doin'? I'm in reston VA tonight, anything doing in DC? woof? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 15:02:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christopher R Dagdigian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christopher R Dagdigian Subject: Squishy line # needed... Can someone please repost the squishy info-line number? thanks, -dag ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 00:20:16 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJEntox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJEntox@AOL.COM Subject: Everything old is NEAU again! Hey tribers, Here's my review of the NEAU party that happened in Manchester Friday: KICK ASS! This was one of the best parties I've been to here in NH.. It was great having some of the Mental crew from Brooklyn up here (unfortunately, no Adam or Jimmy =( maybe next time) Here's a short (uh well, maybe not) review of the night: I went with former net member Dan (djn from UNH) and we arrived at the Industry around 1:50. They were ushuring people into the bar side of the club (called 'sluggers'.. it's a sports bar ugh) and they were giving away free pizza. Not even 10 minutes goes by, and one of the security guards says "It's not going to happen, the police won't let this happen tonight, go home". Everyone filtered outside and I sttod around talking with some friends (m.passive {wetware} and some friends from WUNH). I got the word from Joel that everyone was going to Marcus's house, so we followed Sr. Passive to Marcus house. The house was PACKED! maybe 100 people jammed in there. Everyone was wondering where the hell we were all going. We were told the event was being moved to a warehouse on Commercial street (which has tons of warehouses). We all split. Dan and I agreed to follow the Passiv man to the Warehouse, but they didn't know where they were going.. we didn't know where we were going, so as a last attempt, we stopped at Cumberland Farms.We saw about 4 cars of ravers there awaiting instructions. Everyone there was told to follow a blue car that was getting gas, so we did. We finally made it to the warehouse, and everyone had to park in back (incognito-style) and we had to run in the building. It was a cool warehouse.. not abandoned though. They were setting up in a dance studio. The dance studio was located near a huge arena-sized room were I don';t doubt another NEAU party may be held if they get enough speaker power. After everything was set, they let people into the studio. All the overhead lights were on, and not too many people were dancing (who wants to dance under flourescents?) Anyway, to move this along, the lights were finally turned off. Heather, Reade and Carlos of Mental showed up (they were under the impression the party would be in Boston..oops) Heather spun a _great_ set!!! Ne-Raves own DJM did a kick ass set as well! Joel did a crazy experimental acid/hardtrance set, and Reade spun more great harder acid. The dance studio became an oven, literally. I think it got up to 200 degrees in that room! I was drenched by the end of the night. I'm so glad this went well!!! This could be the start of something wonderful (how poetic). It was much better that it was held in a warehouse rather than the Industry. (we avoided a lot of the Industry leftovers). Anyway, I hope NH's underground keeps as solid as this event.. Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 03:58:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , keith.flippin@SBAONLINE.GOV Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Keith Flippin Organization: Small Business Administration Subject: FAQ.................... To: ne-raves@umdd.umd.edu N >you'll notice that the faq is getting larger and larger. soon i N >think it will get a little too large to reasonably post every 2-3 N >weeks. N > Yeah, tell me about it. My service provider ate the FAQ due to it's length! Could someone please send me a copy silced up into smaller chunks? Pretty please. Oh, thank you, thank you. While I'm at it I suppose I should introduce myself. Dr. Jesus, resident techno-head at WDCR AM, my college radio station. I've been spinning techno/ambient for about 2 1/2 years now, but I still consider myself new to the scene, as I have yet to attend a major rave. I am hoping to get to Delta 4, though. For those who follow the Philly scene, the only events I have attended thus far were Garden of Eden I & II, and that horrendous benefit thing (Special K?) last summer on Drexel's campus. So, any questions? Any answers? Anyone care for a mint? WDCR 640AM, Media PA BTW, don't let the gov address scare you, it's just a service provider, and I pay for it like everyone else. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 14:17:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Natural Rhythm [ObLookOut: MGP and TranceFused team up next week! Keep an eye out and make this underground!] Hmm. I just don't know where I stand on this party. It wasn't bad. It wasn't great. But the fact remains, it was $25. I head up to Baltimore around 10 last night, bored out of my skull and barely willing to drop $25 in the Modern Music coffers to cure the boredom but too deranged from boredom to care. I stop in, and am surprised to see some friends hanging around for tickets, next person in the door is Melzie and Ali, and it seems there is going to be a net-raver presence at the party afterall. Anyhow.. Directions tell me to get up the 95 to the Havre De Grace exit, about 25 miles from Baltimore (BTW: 32 miles from Baltimore according to the sign on the freeway right off the southbound exit). Long drive, made me feel like I was heading up to Philly or NY for a party.. :) (Another note about the directions. It seems they did take pains to save ravers some cash, the directions saved people from going over the toll bridge and then taking a faster route (223 straight up from 95, then over the damn)). I get to the party and go through a quick inspection by people checking cars, very fast and no bothering with a thorough search (thank god they didn't find the 2 tons of coke in the glove box). Funny thing about these guys, there were a couple of motorcycles off on the side that seemed to belong to them, and when 7 of them walked up to the car and produced a barage of light I tripped on the idea that these guys were doing security. Reminded me of the Hell's Angels doing security at Altamont, but much nicer. :) For once, cool security. Into the party, lots of people standing around, lots of people running back and forth. Very odd situation, and I am not even in the warehouse area yet. I walk into the indoor area (large warehouse style building with concrete floors) and the energy is kind of dissipated with about equal amounts of people outside hanging out in front and inside, but not many people in either group. I walk around for a while and see there are alot of people just laying around, some even talking. I finally find David Darrow's booth and find out that the main area got shut down because the generator ran out of gas. Pawn Lighting said the gas levels had not been checked. Well, it was like that for all the rest of the time I was there. I saw some people, tried to get some energy going for dancing, but the energy at the party just seemed so spread out and/or spent. Every time I went onto a dance floor it seemed like about 20-30 people would be dancing and everyone else was watching, just kinda phreaked me. Some people told me they were enjoying it immensly, but most of them were ..umm... on a natural high. Others seemed to have genuinly enjoyed the experience, but for me the experience never happened, it just kind of dragged out. Maybe I was in a bad mood, but it really did seem the DJs turned out some lackluster sets (one in particular, on the main floor around 3:30, came on with a track that had no danceable beat and spun into a track with no danceable beat). The indoors sound system was muddy to my ears. And then, after I realized I wasn't going to get into this party I found out that Plastik the night before had been kicking. Seems very few people showed up, but every DJ on the lineup turned out incredible sets (from no less than three people I hear this). Arghh! And I stayed home because I was tired. :( I hung around for as long as I did because of three reasons: 1> I spent $25, so I may as well wait and hope for a turnaround 2> There were a couple of people I wanted to talk to and meet 3> The damn parking people ran out of space and had cars parked such that I couldn't get mine out until around 8 the next morning. Net-Ravers I saw: Mars Jenn-Bug David Darrow Melzie Christy/Ctozzo/AcmeAcres Cheli/B-Girl Hossam Jason/Method1 Derek Michelle The party wasn't bad, but for myself I would have rather saved my $25. ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:33:22 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Glow Sticks? I've been searching for a place that sells glow sticks for a long time. The only place I ever saw them was at Busch Gardens, but I live in NJ and not one party or toy store has them. Does anyone have any other ideas as to where I could find them? :) peace and health Kenji ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:57:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gil Yaker Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gil Yaker Subject: Re: Glow Sticks? In-Reply-To: <199406261933.PAA15501@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 26 Jun 1994 GroovyBass@aol.com wrote: > I've been searching for a place that sells glow sticks for a long time. The > only place I ever saw them was at Busch Gardens, but I live in NJ and not one > party or toy store has them. Does anyone have any other ideas as to where I > could find them? :) > There are two places that usually carry a good supply. First try a camping store, but they are only going to have them around this time of the year. Though some of the Big camping stores have them all year round (like REI). Along the same lines, a surplus store (which many times doubles as a camping place). THe other place is at a diving shop. They usually always carry them. THe alternative is to wait until halloween and get a whole bunch of the 'toy' sticks then....but they arn't as bright and big. Though i remember after halloween the local drug store was getting rid of their stock for $.50 a piece...so i grabbed a few. > peace and health > Kenji > -Gil ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 16:00:31 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Glow Sticks? >There are two places that usually carry a good supply. First try a >camping store, but they are only going to have them around this >time of >the year. Though some of the Big camping stores have them all >year round >(like REI). Along the same lines, a surplus store (which many >times >doubles as a camping place). > >THe other place is at a diving shop. They usually always carry >them. > >THe alternative is to wait until halloween and get a whole bunch of >the >'toy' sticks then....but they arn't as bright and big. Though i >remember >after halloween the local drug store was getting rid of their stock for >$.50 a piece...so i grabbed a few. Thanks for the ideas! :) kenji ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:01:50 +0000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , e d w a r d l u n a Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: e d w a r d l u n a Subject: TUBE review: Columbus on the move!! Columbus dancing at sunrise?! Yes it's true. "Tube" on Jun 25 was among the best events I have attended in Ohio, courtesy of Toledo's Boomer and Columbus' own Kevy Kev, Scott Macabre, and ~Sines. Close your eyes and it might have seemed like Detroit...if only for a moment. The space was very unusual and the dance area very small (one loft), but it was perfectly appropriate for an appreciative Columbus crowd. It was held in an old elementary school which has now been converted into an arts collective called Milo Arts Complex. It was very cool to wander the halls of an old school, with boomin bass in the background. Those of you who have followed Columbus' microscene know that we have always been struggling to get a vibe rolling, and notable attemmpts to do so include Factory Productions' "Temple of Noize", Encore Productions' "Synergy", The Ele mental Collective's "Elemental," "Comfort," "Snowball," and recent "Spectrum" house parties, and most recently DJ Rage's brainchild "Ackniculous Land," and Kevy Kev's "Virtual Sundaze" at Maxwell's (now defunct). "Tube" brought together all of these scenes into a small space with good music and a happy crowd, among them some out-of towners from Cinci, Toledo, and Athens, and a good party (verging on a real rave) resulted. The diversity of scenes was also represented in the music spun: ~Sines with his "crisp cymbal" Detroit, D-Jax, and trax stuff, Macabre with spacey trance and fast housey stuff, Kevy with his power breaks kickin' it Suburban Base-styley, and Boomer of course boomin with his two-hour Definitive-ass Minimal-Nation/Detroit-Style megamix and hard trance. Perhaps this is an indication of things to come. "Tube," would almost have been worth several hours to drive to, and honestly it felt weird to not have to leave town to go to something decent in Detroit or Indianapolis or Lexington (or God knows where else--Milwaukee maybe? Sheesh.) So if there are any more parties like this they will probably be worth posting. Columbus is on the move, awkwardly, of course, but maybe in the right direction (unlike Cincinnati, Cleveland or Toledo--more like DAYTON, YES!!!). Jus spreadin' the word... ++ *e d w a r d l u n a* ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:12:19 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: glowstix kenji, luckily you live in New Jersey, Corporate home of American Cyanamid Corp., makers of such glow sticks, among other such things. look them up and see if they sell them to simple folk like us. or write to eileen :) also, there is a really cool discount surplus mail order company that stocks them from time to time: American Science and Surplus 3605 Howard Street, Skokie, IL 6076 phone: 708-982-0870 fax: 800-934-0722 call them and either ask them for a catalog, or you might try asking them if they have glowsticks directly. BTW, if anyone is into collecting curious scientific junk, lasers, spare parts, toys, industrial clothes, gas masks, surgical equipment (!) etc. you might want to call and ask for a catalog too :) good luck FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 18:51:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: NR-Review after callwaiting.. Well, last night was very intersting. You all might remember my friend Ali, well, I dragged her to another event...along with this wonderful person I had mentioned chance meeting at Sputnik IV. We headed down to Modern after work to bump into some tall guy with oodles of facial haur buying tickets [and yes, he had a bored expression on his face] Then we went off to the site after a loopy evening of tent games and accents....BLASTING Stone Roses the whole way :) Got up there after admirning the sight of the night the whole time on the trip....the spot was wonderful....the music was not, so we thought we'd sit awhile and then wait until 1 when Scot Hardkiss would go on [one of my FAVE dj's...and hell, after Expand...wow..orgasmic] anyways....we sat around on our blanket and chilled....well....Ali hitched up someone as soon as we got there and we didn't find her most of the night.... The space was wonderful, I also loved how people really made use of the tent space to pitch camp. As soon as we came in we bumped into Dave Darrow, Marshal, and Jen, a litle later Jason [who I hadn't seen in SOOO long] The night was amazing...full moon....dry lush grasses... Bright piercing stars.....crisp, calm.... reminded me of a hundred nights last summer coming home around 5 AM in time to sleep a couple hours for work.... And well, the night was just breathtaking.... [and so was the company] The music wasn't goo when we got there..and well, since it wasn't diversified..it pretty much stayed that way....I recall going up in the room to dance and hearing the Beastie Boys eminating from within.... The vibe was awkward...the space though....made up for it... Sitting out most of the night at the ambient music/computer graphics section of the palce was wonderful... Once it got to morning I bumped into Derek and Hossam, Allen and his friends, Acme Acres, Shelley and got to see how adorable dave looked all curled up in his chair :) So anyways....although the event had amazing potential, the problems with the generators outdoors, the awkward vibe, lack of net people in attendance, lack of interesting music in the main room, and 25 bucks for all of it....make me come to this conclusion Although the event in itself was not good, the company and night and space were so amazing, it was still a trip well worth it :) Love and Strange Meetings, Melzie aka "Wanna fly, ya gotta drop all the shit that weighs you down" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 19:35:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: glowstix In-Reply-To: <199406262212.SAA15986@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 26 Jun 1994, Rishad J Quazi wrote: > luckily you live in New Jersey, Corporate home of > American Cyanamid Corp., makers of such glow sticks, among > other such things. look them up and see if they sell them > to simple folk like us. or write to eileen :) Umm, Cyanamid sold off its holding that made the glow sticks. I know the company still exists that makes them, only Cyanamid doesn't own or distribute them. And, as Eileen works for them (and I was buying mine through her) she can no longer get them. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 20:12:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Flyers that ended up being typed.. Take Off! MGP3 July 3 With: MGP and TranceFused Call for info and directions 202.973.2109 804.768.2000 -------------------------------------------------------------- Natural High 94 at Caffeine First in a Series of Four all-nite parties Friday, July 1, 1994 Johnny Vicious/Vicious Music Frankie Bones/Brooklyn Micro/Caffeine Scotty Henry/Baltimore John Debo/Boston Bruce Wilcox/Orlando Sameer/Caffeine Dave Trance/Caffeine Guy DMC/DMC NYC Troposphere/DMC NYC Peter Panic/Long Island Soul Slinger/Liquid Sky DNA/Caffeine No Guest List - Admission $10 with pass/$12 without Caffeine 826 Grand Blvd. Dix Hills, NY 11729 516.242.1773 Directions: LIE East Exit 52, Commack Road South to Grand Boulevard. Corner (7/11) make Left. Club is 1/4 Mile on Right. Southern State Parkway Exit 39 Route 231. Follow that bear right at for onto Commack Rd. Take that North to Grand Blvd. Corner (7/11) make Left. Club is 1/4 Mile on Right. We now have Free Valet Parking ------------------------------------------------------------- Megatron Every Wensday DJs:Phoenix (Megatron DJ) Joeski (July 6) Scotty Henry (July 13) $1.50 Rolling Rocks 9pm-10:30pm $2.50 rail drinks $6 Cover 18+ w/id 9pm-2:30am Planet Fred 202.331.3733 1221 Connecticut Ave. -------------------------------------------------------------- Fever 10pm 'til 5am 18 & Over w/id BYOB for 21 & over $6 before 11pm $9 after 1310 Russel Street, Baltimore Info:410.880.1166 202.828.1944 Thursday: July 7 Wink On-E Scott Henry DJ Sun Word Moses Sketti ---------------------------------------------------------------- From the people who brought you Sputnik: Fusion Every Friday Mr. Kleen Sprout Scott Richmond Bildo Space 6.17.94 Special Guest DB - Nasa/Profile $5 w/flyer $6 without At Cosmos 84 Main Street New Platz, NY Info: 914.256.0445 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 22:19:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Glow Sticks? In-Reply-To: <199406261933.PAA15501@holmes.umd.edu> >DATE: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 15:33:22 EDT >FROM: GroovyBass@AOL.COM > >I've been searching for a place that sells glow sticks for a long time. The >only place I ever saw them was at Busch Gardens, but I live in NJ and not one >party or toy store has them. Does anyone have any other ideas as to where I >could find them? :) Actually, the place where I go to get them at cheap prices is "the world's biggest toy store" -- Toys 'R Us. At the store near my house, the glowsticks are kept near things like Flintstones pencils, bubbles, etc. They come in assorted colors -- blue, red, orange, green and white. The price is about $1.00 per stick. Virtually yours, Bob "but what about Childworld?" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 01:20:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: natural rhythm review... hmmm...unlike dan, i had a GREAT time at natural rhythm-i guess its funny how two different people can look at things completly differantly.. then again, i got in for free....maybe having to pay $25 might have dampned my enthusiasm, but in reflection i still would've thought NR was worth it. except for the generator running out of gas, which shut down the main dance area for a while (duh), NR seemed very well thought/planned out the space was great (uhm, this IS a new sentence. add a period between "out" and "the" :)), and combined a lot of the good points of an outdoor party (space, fresh air, and a starry sky) with the good points of an indoor event (security and a decent soundsystem). being able to pitch a tent was great-it was soo nice to have a "home base" to stow your stuff and chill at. some other random observations... -highlight of the night: hell, try highlight of the summer...hearing robbie hardkiss spin new order's "blue monday" into his set. and if that wasnt enough, he threw in "planet rock" as well....wow -whoever says that the balto/dc crowd wont dance to breaks is sadly mistaken.. the warehouse space (there were at least 2 soundsystems there, one in a warehous e on the premises) was PACKED with happy dancing people, and the vibe was so thick....i couldnt believe it. and, in case you're wondering, the dj im talk- ing about is greg sargant....he might not have any new records, but he got the crowd moving... -i feel sorry for those who had to pay the INSSANE cafeteria prices -every summer rave should have a pool to swim in afterwards :) -is it just me, or are people just friendlier when outdoors? there was very litt le attitude at NR... well, this post is a bit random...obviously i need sleep :) jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< music maker and champion hugger ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 07:08:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Eileen Reilly Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Eileen Reilly Subject: Re: glowstix > > kenji, > > luckily you live in New Jersey, Corporate home of > American Cyanamid Corp., makers of such glow sticks, among > other such things. look them up and see if they sell them > to simple folk like us. or write to eileen :) Unfortunately American Cyanamid sold the division which makes the glow sticks. I can no longer get them, our company store's supply has run out.... Sorry folks :( eileen ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 07:00:43 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: Penpals Hi there, I've just recently subscribed to this list, so maybe I should "lurk" a bit longer. But anyway, my friend (who isnt online), wants to correspond with ravers in America. He makes techno/ambient/club stuff on an Amiga, 2 synths and a Boss drum machine and would like to send demo's of his stuff to people in the States in order to get some sort of feedback. Same goes for my myself , although my music is a bit faster and heavier than his. My mate's address is: Eddie Cummins, 23, Mahon Crescent, Mahon, Blackrock, Cork, Ireland. And mine is Justin Flavin, 9, St Joseph's Place, Blackrock Road, Cork, Ireland. We've both got tons of English/European rave/club tapes , but we'd like to find out what American DJ's are playing. Oh yeah, both of us are unattached, so gorgeous babes are especially welcome. Bye for now - must go back a "lurk" for the rest of the week. JUSTIN_FLAVIN@FMC.COM ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 08:57:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: sk8r/ravr schtuff hmm, after 7 and a half years of dormancy... i am pleased to announce my re-activation of my passion for skateboarding. i'm getting a new board this week, yay! :) i've delved into the archives and come up with some neat "facts" from what I can observe, it seems like the ravers started wearing BIG clothes first, but the skaters were the first to do this "counterfeit" logo stuff... (end of that controversy) when i start up later this week, i'll be joining the ranks of many celebrities and music persoanlities like : the beastie boys, metallica, and suicidal tendencies.... the FIRST skater in history was Benjamin Franklin, he he he :) what does this have to do with raving? i'm just wondering how many people here skate? at the next rave i'm bringing my board and skating at the afterparty. want to join me :)? rave on! 1000 oh... by the way, unless you haven't seen them yet, the absolutely COOOOLEST skateshirts are made bya company called Alien Workshop. they have some really fresh designs. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 09:21:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David A Gallant Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David A Gallant Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406271257.IAA22000@holmes.umd.edu> from "Obin Robinson" at Jun 27, 94 08:57:04 am > > hmm, > after 7 and a half years of dormancy... > i am pleased to announce my re-activation of my passion for skateboarding. > i'm getting a new board this week, yay! :) > ....many congratz....what took you so long to "rekindle the flame"?... > > what does this have to do with raving? > > i'm just wondering how many people here skate? > at the next rave i'm bringing my board and skating at the afterparty. > want to join me :)? > > every rave in the NE i am sure to have my skate at....so i would be more than happy to join ya'....BTW---> the afterparty for sputnik 4 was held at a skate park, so a good session was available until the floor was taken over by "the masses" :) :).... > rave on! > ...well said.... -lettuce ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 09:50:24 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406271257.IAA22000@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > hmm, > after 7 and a half years of dormancy... > i am pleased to announce my re-activation of my passion for skateboarding. > i'm getting a new board this week, yay! :) > > i've delved into the archives and come up with some neat "facts" > from what I can observe, it seems like the ravers started wearing BIG > clothes first, but the skaters were the first to do this "counterfeit" > logo stuff... (end of that controversy) Nope, I'm afriad you have been mislead, the hip-hop crowd was the first to wear BIG clothes first. Anyone who tells you different is mistaken or a liar. Chances are the person lives in the suburbs and their first contact with anyone THEY knew wore big clothes happened to be a raver. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 10:35:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff >On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > >> i've delved into the archives and come up with some neat "facts" >> from what I can observe, it seems like the ravers started wearing BIG >> clothes first, but the skaters were the first to do this "counterfeit" >> logo stuff... (end of that controversy) Then Joe 187 wrote... > >Nope, I'm afriad you have been mislead, the hip-hop crowd was the first >to wear BIG clothes first. Anyone who tells you different is mistaken or >a liar. Chances are the person lives in the suburbs and their first >contact with anyone THEY knew wore big clothes happened to be a raver. > Both of you ought to check yourselves on the fashion tip and with some people from the L.A. area. They'll tell you most definately that oversized clothing was originated with the Mexican gangsters in L.A. in the early 80's, some of whom listened to "rap" (which eventually became known as "hip-hop") and made up a large part of the L.A. skate community. Soon California rappers and skaters both started adopting the oversized clothes look. New York picked up on it, and it spread to Your Town(tm), USA, as all youth subculture styles must do. Peace, Mars being overly-fucking fashion conscious... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 10:57:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 27 Jun 94 09:50:24 +0300." <9406271354.AA19221@minerva.cis.yale.edu> > Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 09:50:24 +0400 > From: Joe LeSesne > > On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > > > hmm, > > after 7 and a half years of dormancy... > > i am pleased to announce my re-activation of my passion for skateboarding. > > i'm getting a new board this week, yay! :) > > > > i've delved into the archives and come up with some neat "facts" > > from what I can observe, it seems like the ravers started wearing BIG > > clothes first, but the skaters were the first to do this "counterfeit" > > logo stuff... (end of that controversy) > > Nope, I'm afriad you have been mislead, the hip-hop crowd was the first > to wear BIG clothes first. Anyone who tells you different is mistaken or > a liar. Chances are the person lives in the suburbs and their first > contact with anyone THEY knew wore big clothes happened to be a raver. Actually, you're both wrong. The first crowd to wear BIG clothes was fat people. :) -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 11:28:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MaasJ Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: MEMO From: MaasJ Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff > From: Joe LeSesne > On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > > hmm, > > after 7 and a half years of dormancy... > > i am pleased to announce my re-activation of my passion for skateboarding. > > i'm getting a new board this week, yay! :) > > > > i've delved into the archives and come up with some neat "facts" > > from what I can observe, it seems like the ravers started wearing BIG > > clothes first, but the skaters were the first to do this "counterfeit" > > logo stuff... (end of that controversy) > > Nope, I'm afriad you have been mislead, the hip-hop crowd was the first > to wear BIG clothes first. Anyone who tells you different is mistaken or > a liar. Chances are the person lives in the suburbs and their first > contact with anyone THEY knew wore big clothes happened to be a raver. Actually, you're both wrong. The first crowd to wear BIG clothes was fat people. :) -dave HA!! 8^) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 12:22:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406271257.IAA22000@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > hmm, > after 7 and a half years of dormancy... > i am pleased to announce my re-activation of my passion for skateboarding. > i'm getting a new board this week, yay! :) >>YAY! YAY! > > what does this have to do with raving? > > i'm just wondering how many people here skate? > at the next rave i'm bringing my board and skating at the afterparty. > want to join me :)? > >>well, slowly i raise my hand. heh-i've got a phat board..underhill. and i'll just say this: i'm very old school and not very good. i need to learn some tricks. but, if i am at an event that you're at i'll skate a bit with you :) > oh... by the way, unless you haven't seen them yet, the absolutely COOOOLEST > skateshirts are made bya company called Alien Workshop. they have some really > fresh designs. > >>downtown near liquid sky in manhattan there's a sk8 shop called supreme. they have some shirts there..the neatest one i thought was a plain grey shirt that says 'supreme' in orange letters on the front chest. heh..it crakced me up..so vain, ya know? there's a company called Dead End, owned by a guy named Vinny that produces sk8 clothes. i think he just distributes to stores now..there was a guy @ sputnik wearing a dead end shirt:says dead end as teh shoprite logo. Vinny also does cool earth wear..stuph for boarding. i can try to find out what stores he distributes to or if he's at the same location if you want. smiles- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 12:01:14 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <9406271623.AA09817@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "jill" at Jun 27, 94 12:22 pm Well.....since all this sk8 talk has become a topic.....I'd like to interject with a side note. I was planning on starting up again, since it's been about 7 years for me as well. Unfortunetly I won't be able to sk8 with the NE cru for quite some time. My situation at home has'nt been doing too well, and after a lot of thought and some tears I'm heading out to Michigan for the rest of the summer and then back down to Indiana until I graduate school...(whenever that will be). I'll be taking a year off as I need to gain instate status so that I can remotely afford an education. Hopefully things will be resolved smoothely between me and my dad, so I can come back peacefully and chill with you. SO when I do come back I'll grind your asses into the ground.......with hugs! So unfortunetly I won't be seeing many of you for a while, and many of you I won't be able to meet for the first time in a while. Maybe I'll be back for a visit for Christmas time and we can all hit the city and tear it down. I'm really gonna miss you all, and I'll keep in touch. Don't know yet if I'll keep on NE but I think I will. mass amounts of PLUR and salt water!!!! -chuck NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 13:10:31 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Re: glowstix > luckily you live in New Jersey, Corporate home of >American Cyanamid Corp., makers of such glow sticks, among >other such things. look them up and see if they sell them >to simple folk like us. or write to eileen :) FiSH - You'd think if there's a company based here in NJ, glowsticks would be floatin' all over the streets, but I've yet to see them! :) I'll check it out though. I need a steady supply. 8) Kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 13:14:52 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Glow Sticks? >Actually, the place where I go to get them at cheap prices is "the >world's biggest toy store" -- Toys 'R Us. At the store near my >house, >the glowsticks are kept near things like Flintstones pencils, >bubbles, >etc. They come in assorted colors -- blue, red, orange, green and >white. The price is about $1.00 per stick. > >Virtually yours, >Bob "but what about Childworld?" Baxter Crazy me! All this time and I completely forgot about Toys 'R Us! Thanks for reminding me! kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 15:53:48 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Keith Cathode or Leroy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Keith Cathode or Leroy Subject: Re: Squishy line # needed... In-Reply-To: <9406251902.AA08340@life.ai.mit.edu>; from "Christopher R Dagdigian" at Jun 25, 94 3:02 pm > > Can someone please repost the squishy info-line number? > > thanks, > -dag > squishy : 617 499 4925 also check out supersonic's infoline if you're looking for Boston stuff : 617 73 1 7214 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:46:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Peter A. Cohen" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Peter A. Cohen" Subject: What's Happening In Boston? What's going on in Boston now that the warm weather is here? Is the scene totally dead, or are folks drifting into clubs, or what? I keep reading about Manchester, Baltimore, NY, etc., but there's an absence of Boston stuff posted lately...please...someone tell me I'm not alone...I'm drifting on never-ending vibes of isolation! -- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | Peter A. Cohen | flargh@tiac.net | fax: (617) 662-1825 | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Free your mind and your ass will follow." - George Clinton | +--------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 16:53:55 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jonathan Kadish Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jonathan Kadish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: What's Happening In Boston? In-Reply-To: <199406272041.QAA03766@holmes.umd.edu> There was a recent post about an underground party in Boston in sept. check the list for phuture posts about it..... Or send me your e mail and I will forweard the info to you ;) CAT (purrrrrrrr) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:00:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David McMahon Subject: Re: What's Happening In Boston? On Jun 27 at 4:46pm, Peter A. Cohen wrote: > What's going on in Boston now that the warm weather is here? Is the scene > totally dead, or are folks drifting into clubs, or what? I keep reading > about Manchester, Baltimore, NY, etc., but there's an absence of Boston > stuff posted lately...please...someone tell me I'm not alone...I'm drifting > on never-ending vibes of isolation! What exactly is it that you're looking for? If it's techno, then you don't have to look too far. Manchester, NH (as you mentioned) is less than an hour from Boston and we're having bunches of fun up there. :) -- ----- djm@progress.com ------------------- PH: 617-280-4474 ------------------ They knew he'd never been on || PARENTAL This album contains explicit lyrics their TV, so they passed his || ==== which may cause your children to good music by. -Joni Mitchell || ADVISORY become free thinking intellectuals. * We are BORGanized religion. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. Resistance is futile. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:45:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: What's Happening In Boston? In-Reply-To: <9406272102.AA14677@media.mit.edu>; from "David McMahon" at Jun 27, 94 5:00 pm hey dave, could you send me a list of dates when you guys are throwing parties (NEAU)...cause we're trying to put some parties together too and don't want to overlap with you... see ya later keep the vibe alibe -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 17:45:21 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: What's Happening In Boston? In-Reply-To: <9406272102.AA14677@media.mit.edu>; from "David McMahon" at Jun 27, 94 5:00 pm whups, sorry to send that to the list, that was for dave mcmahon -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 19:39:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Natural Rhythm Well where to begin. We arrived at around 7 Sat night and set up camp. I basically wandered around till it got dark and found a whole lotta people. I don't know what time it was but i headed to the big field and caught Winks set which was some FanTasTic tribal. After groooovin' to that, myself and a hord of other totally happy ravers played on the swings then went to check out the lake. somehow we wandered into the woods and came upon the neatest field with all this old farm equipment. We came back and danced to the Hardkiss brothers which made me want to move to Cali. =) I had the best time of my life! it was great being outside. i didn't even go to the inside area, seemed too boxed in. When they shut off the main field in the morn. cause the records were warping.. gulp, i grooved to one of my friends car stereos. I loved being able to go back to the tents and always having someone their to chat with. my only complaint was the food was toooo expensive but we brought our own. I Loved It All, I want a week long rave camp. Very happy and satisfied, FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 19:52:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , The Professional Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Professional Subject: angst hello. i am sitting here at work, mulling a few thoughts in my head about a rave that happened last weekend (Natural Rhythm). i didn't go to the rave myself, but heard all about it from my friend hossam. he told me that there were 'lots and lots of breaks spun'. when i asked him who spun them, he listed off a handful of djs. i was surprised. why? here in the states (i am speaking of the east coast specifically), there was a time when a lot of djs spun breaks. back when they were slow and pianoey and happy. when breaks started getting darker and faster and more complicated, many of the breaks djs abandoned ship and swam to calmer, housier waters. a straggling handful of breaks djs kept with the music and kept pushing it to the ravers. it became hard to get booked for an event if you spun breaks. i should know...there were periods of 2 months plus when i couldn't get a job based on the type of music that i spun. then slow breaks started becoming popular. stuff from florida and san francisco. some of the old breaks djs began to spin these. but most kept on with whatever new style they were spinning. and the bpms hovered in the 130-140 range. everything was slowing down and imo, becoming boring. but still, there were thoe of us who kept with it...and slowly breaks started making a comeback. i started playing events where the breakbeat sets were the most popular of all the sets of the night. it was a happy sight. but now, here is where the angst comes in. all of these old djs who gave up spinning breaks are now back in full form spinning them again. it is *safe* to spin them again. people are accepting them again. fuck that. last weekend a lot of the old djs who 'jumped ship' apparently headed off to their local record stores and bought a few handfuls of breaks records and spun them again. ahhhh...yes...brilliant in the eyes of the raving public! but to those of us who never gave it up, who never stopped even when promters refused to book us, it is an insult. sure, it helps to promote the scene musically, but from the perspective of someone who has kept with breaks and who is now seeing all the old djs picking up this 'hot new music form' (much in the same way that jungle is now being hailed as 'the new summer sound' in the uk though it has been around for *a long time*), it is irritating. oh well....just my thoughts. dieselBoy / damian ..... .... ... . damian+@pitt.edu the only one capable breaks the unbreakable ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:22:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Gwertzman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Gwertzman Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406271623.AA13439@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu> I used to be a skater way back in 87-88-89, back when decks were wide, wheels were fat, and the california surfer look was the way to go. Just how and when and why did all the skateboards become these little thin things with the tiny wheels? If I'm not mistaken these are the same as the freestyle boards that (hmmm lemme think) Rodney Mullen and a few others used to ride. Would I be a geek if I broke out the old Schmitt Stix John Lucero and started doing McTwists? _____________________________________________________________________________ mSeriDfFLF18tpLb | m g 1 6 2 @ c o l u m b i a . e d u | 9/HIjd+2Ru11KUR/Nj93 582WSxvXbh9zWMrI | m i c h a e l d g w e r t z m a n | m6e/opBLgHKASEOvl4Oi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 21:32:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff Michael Gwertzman transmitted these words of wisdom..... > I used to be a skater way back in 87-88-89, back when decks were wide, > wheels were fat, and the california surfer look was the way to go. Just > how and when and why did all the skateboards become these little thin > things with the tiny wheels? If I'm not mistaken these are the same as > the freestyle boards that (hmmm lemme think) Rodney Mullen and a few > others used to ride. Would I be a geek if I broke out the old Schmitt > Stix John Lucero and started doing McTwists? heheh..this is great....i'd like to join in the chorus of old skaters (although i was never very good :) ) maybe i'll break out my old mark gonzalez pro model ;) with the big phat shredder wheels...hmmm...and the tony hawk sticker, and of course....my famous *checkered turqoise and black slip-on vans* doh! 8*) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:24:14 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Happy news from me and Taylor :) I just wanted to write to you all and say that today is the one year anniversary of when Taylor and I started going out :) If it weren't for ne-raves, I never would have met such a wonderful person and never would have experienced all that Taylor has shown me and taught me. ****************************************** sun(flower) I love you, Taylor ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:26:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "hydrogen.glow" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: "hydrogen.glow" Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: Happy news from me and Taylor :) In-Reply-To: <199406280219.WAA06842@holmes.umd.edu> well, without turning this into a new thread.. i just want to second that (e)motion... and i'd like to point out that many great relationships have started because of this list.. and it think that's pretty amazing.. tina and i have had a very very happy year.. and continue to have a wonderful life together each day... tho, becuase of our current school/work situations.. i dont' think we're in close enough competition for the first ne-raver marriage.. :) damn... :) >>taylor (i love you too tina) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:39:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406280123.VAA06428@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Michael Gwertzman wrote: > I used to be a skater way back in 87-88-89, back when decks were wide, > wheels were fat, and the california surfer look was the way to go. Just > how and when and why did all the skateboards become these little thin > things with the tiny wheels? If I'm not mistaken these are the same as > the freestyle boards that (hmmm lemme think) Rodney Mullen and a few > others used to ride. Would I be a geek if I broke out the old Schmitt > Stix John Lucero and started doing McTwists? >>hehhehe...my deck is still wide and my wheels are fat! ;) nah, i don't think you'd be a geek for doing mctwists..i'd be right nearby walking the dog. -jill unrest@wam.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:48:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Gwertzman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Gwertzman Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406280135.AA08120@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu> On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, MONO wrote: > > heheh..this is great....i'd like to join in the chorus of old skaters (although > i was never very good :) ) maybe i'll break out my old mark gonzalez pro > model ;) with the big phat shredder wheels...hmmm...and the tony hawk sticker, > and of course....my famous *checkered turqoise and black slip-on vans* > > doh! 8*) > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I'm kind of embarrassed, but seeing all these kids out in the cool baggy pants skating around has made me interested in more mobile trasnportation than the 1 train. My thoughts have been turning more and more to (gasp) rollerblades. They just look like so much fun, and I want to learn how to do something new. Also, as to the this "who wore the big baggy clothes first?" Don't underestimate the influence the beastie boys have had on this whole scene. x-large is like the k-mart for these people. but if thse kids are so grungy, how do they have money for the 60-70$ jeans that are on sale at all those hip stores in the village? _____________________________________________________________________________ mSeriDfFLF18tpLb | m g 1 6 2 @ c o l u m b i a . e d u | 9/HIjd+2Ru11KUR/Nj93 582WSxvXbh9zWMrI | m i c h a e l d g w e r t z m a n | m6e/opBLgHKASEOvl4Oi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:04:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Lonely Willy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Lonely Willy Subject: Re: Happy news from me and Taylor :) In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 27 Jun 1994 22:24:14 -0500 > sun(flower) > > I love you, Taylor How sweet. Congrat. Willy P. =========================================================================== | o \ o / _ o __| \ / |__ o _ \ o / o | | /|\ | /\ ___\o \o | o/ o/__ /\ | /|\ | | / \ / \ | \ /) | ( \ /o\ / ) | (\ / | / \ / \ | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | William W. Peng, willpeng@eden.rutgers.edu, (908)968-8238 10am - 11pm | |=========================================================================| ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:18:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: Happy news from me and Taylor :) congrats you two:) allison ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:41:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Happy news from me and Taylor :) In-Reply-To: <199406280230.WAA06934@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, hydrogen.glow wrote: > well, without turning this into a new thread.. i just want to second that > (e)motion... Too late.. :) > and i'd like to point out that many great relationships have started > because of this list.. and it think that's pretty amazing.. Well, to expand it a bit I would just like to say that not only this list, but the Net in general has provided the impetue for great relationships. I am not sure I can attribute my passionate love for Allison to just NE Raves (though I know I wouldn't have been around on this area of the net had it not been for this list) as Vrave has helped us foster our relationship greatly. But yes, isn't love and net-love grand? Dan Ps. __ __ ( \___/ ) (0)_(0) ( ) ________________ / . . \ \ o o / He really does. \---- ( \_____/ ) | O | _______________________ \_______/ \_u_/ ----/ I lovest thou, Allison ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 00:01:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: dumb question? =) I'm looking for Steve Loria's phone number cause a friend of mine is trying to get him for a rave. any idea how i could get it? Thank U & U & U =) FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jun 1994 23:12:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Merrick Brown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Merrick Brown Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <199406280249.WAA07143@holmes.umd.edu> > I'm kind of embarrassed, but seeing all these kids out in the cool baggy > pants skating around has made me interested in more mobile trasnportation > than the 1 train. My thoughts have been turning more and more to (gasp) > rollerblades. They just look like so much fun, and I want to learn how > to do something new. I love rollerblading, I've been doing it for about a year. I used to skate on boards (or try), but I never got any good. I got some blades though and found that I could skate much easier. I still haven't gotten many tricks down, I can barely jump off the curb, but if you're in for a thrill then give rollerblades a try. I know that boards are fun too, but these blades can smoke. Merrick Brown - Vertigo ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 00:23:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: hahhhd coah In-Reply-To: <199406272101.RAA04112@holmes.umd.edu> dave--- i don't know if you remember us but we came from the seacoast last friday/saturday to check out neau. this is marc writing. we compared notes after missing out on the after hours chill at marcus' and felt pretty unanimous that your set was pretty kickin. we liked the records we had bought for ourselves at boston beat that you also had and played, of course we could be totally wrong. nice job with that jan pravda 'pravda tracks' 'a' side. _never_ thought we'd hear that in nh. that 'ellen' [?] ep was kickin shit too. we don't have that yet. we're going to boston beat this wednesday at around 6:30. maybe we'll see you? we'll be with the other guy, matt, whom i published 'wetware' with. we'll be in touch if we don't hear from you. -take car, marc ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:47:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Squishy line # needed... In-Reply-To: <199406271954.PAA03312@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, Keith Cathode or Leroy wrote: > squishy : 617 499 4925 actually, its 617 499 1925 check it. :) chris .-'~~~-. we cause .'o oOOOo`. pronoia :~~~-.oOo o`. `. \ ~-. oOOo. `.; / ~. OO: .......sQuiShy Designs....... .' ;-- `.o.' this'll stop ,' ; ~~--'~ ftp: ftp.std.com /pub/cmellow them shakes. ; ; ftp: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple ___\\;_\\//_______ WWW: http://bazaar.com/dj/cmellow.html fingerforPGPpubkey ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:56:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: not too long natural rhythm review every party should be outside...:) higlights: on-e spinning breaks and hip hop lieven (YES LIEVEN) spinning a great acid trance set! so many ppl were going nuts...beautiful melodic trance with nice warm 303's on top...so pretty... i liked michael meachems set as well... greg sargent....:) breaks breaks breaks....soo fun...mc, whistle posse, foghorn, it was sooo dope! only thing i didnt like about the set was this...its a small thing, but if you are going to be known as a "breaks" dj, then spin breaks...it annoyed me how halfway thru his set he spun funky house/hip hop/slow breaks (who type stuff)...i thought i was gonna hear a set of all breaks..it seemed that way...if who or sun or maybe even wink spun the stuff he spun in the middle of his (sargent's) set.. i woulda danced to it, but as it were, i sat down and rested on stage during that time...but then he came back with the edge1, the yolk (bish bosh) the top buzz (living in darkness) and i was off again...(josh, i was looking for ya--i was the kid in the big gray pants, airwalks, black tshirt and fila visor...with the whistle, i was also up front by the right speaker..i know u saw me and vice versa.....sorry :) until next time...(josh ill post to the breaks list for further stuff on this topic ok? maybe u can get it to greg and get back to me?..thanks) i didnt catch winks set outside....winks tribal outdoors was perfect, but greg sargent was pulling ppl away from it even...:) i was happy. after that i chilled and stared at the *beautiful* starry sky...:) it was funny coz you could tell who all the ppl who were preoccupied with the visual beauty of the place were by where they were sitting...:) then out of nowhere, i heard new orders blue monday ("how does it feel") :) wow i thought it was coming from the ambient area (which was soo cool, little ampitheatre with benches and a stage and it was perfect) but it turns out it was scott hardkisses set...:) scotty was spinning the most tripped out, dubby, spacey beats....it was like 303's lost in space..it was soo chill and awesome...:) i loved it...:) then robby came on...he spun from dawn to morning..and it was beautiful... and then dante :) a great morning dj on the funky groovy jazzy house tip...:) real phat. (high point...robbyy groovin his ass off on stage during dantes set..real funny) they shut down the main system after dante which sucked coz we were all waiting for scott henry to come on...alot of ppl were saving up their energee for that, but it never happened...he ended up spinning a mini-set at the ambient set up the morning was soo cool coz you could hang out...it wasnt like 8am came around, the lights went up and ppl had to leave...you could hang out and chill and relax at the pool (YAY)it was awesome...:) and i just have to say this--nuggets in swimsuits. *wow* :) the music in the gym/warehouse/whatever kept going on and off, it was the room that would not die...i wasnt complaining tho, it was good to hear beats during the day...:) cause when u say music til 6pm, ppl expect it ya know? i was happy with the way things turned out (i left at 4pm) rydes' set in the gym was tranced out to all hell type - house...easy stuf to groove to/get lost in...:) seeing christy (ctozzo/acmeacres) dance to that was sooo fun(ny) and her friend (that one guy...:) go off too...:) it was awesome when the kids came over from work it (HA HA HA-i told you soo...natural rhythm was better than work it! :P) to nr as an afterparty..i got to see friends who i knew went to work it that weekend as well, i also got the surprise of seeing jj (jsquared) who was vending at work it... and dj randall didnt show up at jokers high in toronto!! yeah! im soo happy! 3 good parties and i made the right choice (not tha ti had any say in it..much thanks derek *hug*) im tired of ppl going to events and then coming back and bitching and complaining...*any* party is as fun as you can make it yourself! damn, there have been weekends when i would have had fun grooving to a tiny sounding 1 1/2" speaker tuned to am radio...YOU CREATE YOUR OWN GROOVE AND VIBE. if you spend $25 on a party, that doesnt mean you should expect it handed out to you on a platter...you should think...man i just dropped *alot* of money on this party, i should make sure i try and have a good time... i think alot of ravers have gotten too lazy and complacent and expect the promoters to hand them everything...what about back in the day, when the parties were renegade, and busted, and ppl kept with it because they LOVED THE MUSIC! im not accusing anyone of anything..im just saying, dont say natural rhythm didnt deliver the goods...cause for $25 you got wikked out of town djs, you got the biggest and possibly best lineup of the summer so far...you got 3 dance areas, you got recreation (tennis, swimming, etc) you got a party that went (for me) from 6pm to 4pm the next day! you got no bullshit with security, no busts, the music went longer than you did if u complained...i dont know, that pisses me off. you want the scene to be happy and fun and vibrant? be happy and fun and vibrant YOURSELF and watch it spread...you dont get a good time with a ticket or whatever to a rave...thats a drug mentality...good time in a capsule...it happens, but its not exclusively true...i think ppl are used to having a good time on drugs at parties, so that when they dont do drugs (or whatever) they are liek this sucks..instead of realizing, its not the drugs or the promoter or whatever that makes the party fun/gives it a vibe...ITS YOU THE RAVERS. its that simple. props to modern music. one of the best groups out there. delivering the goods at cut rate prices...always...everyone of their parties i have been too have rocked, have been all that they promised. good djs lights and sounds...support them this summer if you want a guaranteed good time... to modern music: HEY JOE: COULD YOU PLEASE POST THE SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT LINEUP FOR JULY (and every month for that matter)...if you havent seen this...ohmygod...end of july...$6 before 11pm...dust brothers. nuff said... actually, if anyone has the spiritual movement lineup for july flier, please post...:) thats it. it was killer, one of the funnest (yes funnest) parties i have ever been to...i was smiling and laffing the whole time...ask the ppl i hung with...we all had FUN! peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 04:10:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: quick plastik review plastik/friday june 24/philly wink/dieselBoy/nigel richards/jimmy crash/denard/+various house djs back to the basics for nigel and his crew on this one...:) a good sound system, quality djs, and a floor... $10. it was very good...only it was way too hot...a bunch of fans downstairs and a few more upstairs would have done wonders...the music was great, but the heat and the fact that ppl had so little energy/were saving it up for work it/nr was apparent...:( very friendly crowd...lots of talking going on since it was too hot to dance (you broke a sweat just sitting and talking) it was nasty...oh well. i enjoyed winks and damians (one of the best jobs of music selection/ programming for the crowd ive seen him do) and nigels and denards sets. the house upstairs was fun but a bit overly commercials, like all the classic club hits, but it was *very* fabulous, clubby crowd there, most of the ppl ended up there coz it was cooler than downstairs, which was too bad because so many ppl were drawn away from the 80% good music downstairs. i had a good time as always, friends were there, snapplechuck, the fresh albany crew (lisaleee, air and buffy) and alot of others...:) this is a really good idea nigel, keep it going, for those of you who liked the delta concept, this is an extension...top notch dance music at a great price...we need more of this... the philly scene IS growing. peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 03:14:23 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: Re[2]: sk8r/ravr schtuff re- big, baggy clothes Why dont we go all the fucking way back - hippies in the 60's wore big fucking kaftans! Christ ! There's more to life than fucking clothes - mainly music! Music is the key to rave - not what style of clothes you wear. Rave is really about all kinds of people grooving to a futuristic sound. Fashion's come and go... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 04:43:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" pb-cle-raves@telerama.lm.com, seraves@american.edu,vraves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: PLEASE READ THIS Cc: Reply-To: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO ALL OTHER LISTS (mwraves, etc...as wide a disribution as possible is asked for) lisaleee, arianne (air) and buffy got in a car wreck driving home from work it. the car was totalled. they all went to the hospital and thank god, were all released. they were all rested up, were not high, it just happened. :( driving back from philly, they were in new jersey, on their way back home to the albany area, and they wrecked the car. this happened at 9:40 on sunday night. what happened: driving in left lane of a 3 lane highway, another car opposite them in the right lane, middle lane was empty...buffy went to switch to the middle lane to let the car behind her pass. the car in the far right lane began moving into the middle lane at the same time. lisa warned buffy, who had already begun to cut the wheel to the right, buffy over corrected to avoid hitting the car moving into the middle lane, and the car swerved. they ran into the median, which was a concrete barrier going about 70-75 miles an hour. the car was totalled. the hood of the car was pushed up to the windshield, and its a miracle the engine block didnt go into the passenger compartment. buffy was wearing her seatbelt and had a drivers side airbag..she was hurt the least and was complaining of whiplash to her back and neck when i talked to her (11pm mon eve)...lisa was sitting passenger side, and wasnt wearing a seatbelt...she dislocated her elbow, and needs further xrays to her jaw, the entire side of her face is bruised. arianne was sleeping the back seat, and complained of a strained knee (i didnt talk to her, she was on codeine for the pain, and i imagine too groggy to talk, i heard that arianne thinks its a fractured knee, but she was released from the hospital without that diagnosis). the car did not have insurance. luckily, noone hit the car after they wrecked, although there were some close calls, they were transported by ambulance to a local hospital, and were released, lisa was the last to be released, her injuries were the most serious. i talked to lisa and she sounded *really* depressed. that car was her life...it allowed her to get away from home and go out and have fun. she just got a brand new job that was going to pay her well and now has no way of getting there. :( she could really use our help. i remember after a rave called scott, i lost basically all my worldly possesions (my bag containing over $500 was stolen there) and i felt like i had no friends at all. i only got a few (appreciated) words of support and encouragement and help from some friends, but i felt like most of my friends were only there in the good times, etc. i swore if any of my friends ever got into trouble like i did, that i would do all i could to help and support them, becuase i know what it feels like to think you are alone in moments of crisis. i asked lisa if i could tell you about this and she gave me her permission. of course, the thing that would help most is money...if *any* of you have even $5 you can send her way, it would do soooo much to help her out...her situation is worse than was worse than mine ever was and worse than you could possibly imagine. if you cant *possibly* help, then please, send them packages and letters and other stuff you think will cheer them up, give them support. pictures, stickers, tapes, candy, etc. you know. they are all depressed and shocked and worried, and really need good things in their lives right now. please help them. you can send things to lisa at this address: lisa lee c/o georgia lee 1831 5th ave. po box 234 troy ny, 12180 tomorrow i will call them and see if arianne and buffy want their addresses posted...as well as lisa, buffy and ariannes phone numbers....they are all currently off the net right now, so you will have *do* something to show them your support, but i hope you are loving and caring enough to make that much of an effort as placing a 29 cent stamp on an envelope. you would want people to do the same for you if you were in that situation. think about it. be glad it wasnt you. be thankful for what you have and help out those who really need it. it will come back to you in the end. and if you really cant do anything, at least send a prayer/send positive vibes out their way. it beats doing nothing. please help out our own. this is the *true* test of what we are all about. i would hope its not superficial. thank you, take care, and peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 04:47:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: please read this (addendum) i had that post addressed to pb-cle raves, the vrave list (they were all frequent vravers and seraves) i dont think it made it out to those areas...please, if you could send your copy to those lists, they would all appreciate it. i just want them to get the chance of help from as many sources as possible...who knows, maybe a law or medical student out there can lend their assitance...there are legal questions that are not answered as of yet. but again, i just want as many people as possible to know about this. peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 07:16:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: Happy news from me and Taylor :) i love you dan.:-* allison ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 07:30:36 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: Happy news from me and Taylor :) ah.. didnt see that going to the entire list, but it is true. like dan says, it is the net that brought us together - being in different parts of the country we would not have met with out vrave, and vrave also helps us talk to each other, every day, a frequency we probably couldnt keep up if we were confined to snail mail or the p hone. the net has also encouraged me to travel to meet a lot of you - in the past 8 mo nths ive seen more of the country and met more people than i think i ever have i n my life!!:) hugs and kisses to all, but especially to dan. i love you. allison ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 07:18:21 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: not too long natural rhythm review >..you dont get a good time with a ticket or whatever to a >rave...thats a drug mentality...good time in a capsule...it happens, > but its not exclusively true...i think ppl are used to > having a good time on drugs at parties, so that when they > dont do drugs (or whatever) they are liek this > sucks..instead of realizing, its not the drugs or the > promoter or whatever that makes the party fun/gives it a > vibe...ITS YOU THE RAVERS. Well said hossam - over here in Ireland , drugs and rave go hand in hand. You dont do one without the other - which is why I've dropped out of the scene over here, but I still love the music with a passion. The whole scene over here has been ruined by smacky , heroin laced E tabs - people dont dance on these things - they just go around making funny faces and saying things like "Mad buzz", "Fucking mad buzz". Pretty sad really. The 'buzz' went out around the end of 1992. Having said that , I was DJing at a party in isolated West Cork on a farm owned by some hippies - strobes,lights,sounds all in the open air , with nothing around for miles. We organised it ourselves - around 70 people at it , all friends, and it went down with a bang - 9pm until 12 am the following morning. So my advice is - dont wait for promoters to stage a rave - go out and organise your own parties - there's a way better bang at your own ones. (plus you can filter out any criminal elements). Well,peace + respect. Justin F. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:19:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: sk8r/ravr joke/humour hmm, just a little joke to *hopefully* raise a smile... Q: what's the differance between a skater, and a raver???... A: eventually, the skaters grow up. :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 09:19:27 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: Penpals HAD TO SEND THIS AGAIN AS I'VE GOT A POOR RESPONSE - ANYONE OUT THERE? Hi there, I've just recently subscribed to this list, so maybe I should "lurk" a bit longer. But anyway, my friend (who isnt online), wants to correspond with ravers in America. He makes techno/ambient/club stuff on an Amiga, 2 synths and a Boss drum machine and would like to send demo's of his stuff to people in the States in order to get some sort of feedback. Same goes for my myself , although my music is a bit faster and heavier than his. My mate's address is: Eddie Cummins, 23, Mahon Crescent, Mahon, Blackrock, Cork, Ireland. And mine is Justin Flavin, 9, St Joseph's Place, Blackrock Road, Cork, Ireland. We've both got tons of English/European rave/club tapes , but we'd like to find out what American DJ's are playing. Oh yeah, both of us are unattached, so gorgeous babes are especially welcome. Bye for now - must go back a "lurk" for the rest of the week. JUSTIN_FLAVIN@FMC.COM ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 10:56:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Pangenitor Panphage Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Pangenitor Panphage Subject: Re: 30 somethings In-Reply-To: <199406200347.XAA16240@holmes.umd.edu> from "Cal Eastman" at Jun 19, 94 11:36:53 pm Joe Like I am a 30 something so chill out. Dont put down my demographics just cause you have a bug about Zippies. You never met me and never even have partied with me so since you dont know me dont make huge categories like that. Respect Harry 30 something WazzUp Duran ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 12:21:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: dumb question? =) >I'm looking for Steve Loria's phone number cause a friend of mine is >trying to get him for a rave. any idea how i could get it? > Thank U & U & U =) > FiNGER Finger, You can reach Steve Loria by calling "Beat Non Stop" in Los Angeles, CA. They don't open til 3pm our time (Eastern that is). The record store's telephone number is: 213.930.2121 and there Fax # is:213.930.1416 Cool? Peace, Mars p.s. If you need anyone else's number, call me at: 908.506.9592 and leave me a message. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:23:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr joke/humour In-Reply-To: <199406281319.JAA09850@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > hmm, > just a little joke to *hopefully* raise a smile... > > Q: what's the differance between a skater, and a raver???... > > A: eventually, the skaters grow up. :) > > 1000 I'll NEVER grow up, and I Love It =). good joke =) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 15:33:53 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David A Gallant Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David A Gallant Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr joke/humour... In-Reply-To: <199406281924.PAA14873@holmes.umd.edu> from "finger" at Jun 28, 94 03:23:47 pm > > On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > > > hmm, > > just a little joke to *hopefully* raise a smile... > > > > Q: what's the differance between a skater, and a raver???... > > > > A: eventually, the skaters grow up. :) > > > > 1000 > > I'll NEVER grow up, and I Love It =). good joke =) > ...i am a raver, and a skater.....*ponder* what is goig to happen to me? -lettuce bee *perplexed by life* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 16:38:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Smellen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ellen Steuer Subject: HELP! I'm raveless in NYC hello everyone! the little introduction to ne-raves says to hang out and read the list for a few weeks before you post anything just to get the feel of it or whatever. well, i only have 8 weeks so too bad. i am from milwaukee, WI (no, i don't even LIKE hardcore) but i am in NYC working for the summer. i am an avid mw-raver. i have absolutely NO idea what the scene is like around here. i need people to hook up with to go to events with cuz i am basically here by myself with no raver friends or any other friends for that matter:( if you are a kind person that lives in manhattan or nearby let me know whats up and invite me along on your weekend plans. i will be your best friend! thanks a bundle!! ellen/smileE p.s. mw-raves has a calendar, do you guys? if so, send me one please or just let me know what parteees are this weekend or coming up soon. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:04:08 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr schtuff In-Reply-To: <9406280245.AA04092@lassp.cornell.edu>; from "Michael Gwertzman" at Jun 27, 94 10:48 pm > > On Mon, 27 Jun 1994, MONO wrote: > > > > > heheh..this is great....i'd like to join in the chorus of old skaters > (although > > i was never very good :) ) maybe i'll break out my old mark gonzalez pro > > model ;) with the big phat shredder wheels...hmmm...and the tony hawk > sticker, > > and of course....my famous *checkered turqoise and black slip-on vans* > > > > doh! 8*) > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > . > > I'm kind of embarrassed, but seeing all these kids out in the cool baggy > pants skating around has made me interested in more mobile trasnportation > than the 1 train. My thoughts have been turning more and more to (gasp) > rollerblades. They just look like so much fun, and I want to learn how > to do something new. > > [restofthestuffisgone] ...better watch out. Word is, tension is starting to build between the rollerbladers and new-skooler skaters. Reason? cause rollerblading is F**KIN LEGAL!!! and skating is not. pretty simple. - a al ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 18:15:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Re: sk8r/ravr joke/humour... In-Reply-To: <199406281934.PAA14956@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, David A Gallant wrote: > > > > On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, Obin Robinson wrote: > > > > > hmm, > > > just a little joke to *hopefully* raise a smile... > > > > > > Q: what's the differance between a skater, and a raver???... > > > > > > A: eventually, the skaters grow up. :) > > > > > > 1000 > > > > I'll NEVER grow up, and I Love It =). good joke =) > > > > > ...i am a raver, and a skater.....*ponder* what is goig to happen to me? > > > -lettuce bee *perplexed by life* You'll be a really big kid =) FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 18:29:12 +0100 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SPeCiMeN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: SPeCiMeN Subject: nyc info please :) hello from a friendly neighbor on mw-raves. i have a small favor to ask of anyone on this list.. a friend is spending the rest of the summer in nyc and was hoping to find some good clubs/raves or whatever. she doesn't have net access right now so i got stuck with the job of findin out.. :) i checked through the ne-raves calendar and all of the events were pretty far away from the actual city.. are there good places to go in that area that don't require a car..? she said 'regular-ish club events and stuff would be fantastic!' does that "nasa" thing still go on? basically any clubs with good vibes and good music... so anyways, if someone could point me to an archive where i could find such a list or if somebody could mail me some tips for places to go it would be most appreciated.. thanks for your time! peace, andy ndc@engin.umich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 07:07:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , binary sound Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: binary sound Subject: Re: Re[2]: sk8r/ravr schtuff > Fashion's come and go... ...style is eternal. -Yves St. Laurent (sorry, i couldn't help myself =) john ---- j.sweeney jds@access.digex.net binary(sound) 01011011 ( i m p r i n t s ) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 20:13:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Doppelganger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Doppelganger Subject: nyc brief answer -- NASA's been out of the Shelter (157 hudson st.) for over a year, but found a temporary home at the Living Room, Light Wisdom & Sound, and now -- it seems -- at the Tunnel. This thursday they're having something at the tunnel -- call 330-8233 for more info. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 22:56:24 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "hydrogen.glow" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: "hydrogen.glow" Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: NYC kids: P-909 LIVE wed. 6.29 the blunt academy presents AMBIENT WORLD 1 @ the cooler (416 w. 14th st.) wed. june 29th (that's tomorrow!) doors at 9pm featuring live in real time: instinct recording artists PROTOTYPE 909 (1:30 am) [ acid at it's finest ] also... SUB DUB (11:30 pm) DJs: reese soul slinger spooky everybody pays $5 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ hope to see some of you there... sorry i didn't post with more advance notice... i'll be the one in the maroon anarchic "analogue" shirt (thanks tinalove :* ) with tthe drum machines.. if you dont' know me.. come see us! peace ..taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 23:40:32 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: MGP anyone? hi all, just wondering how many of y'all will be going to the mobilegroovesposse netparty this sunday .. i am trying to rustle up some NE folks to come along with me, if its still going on.. doug? mike? peace, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 00:46:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM OV DE VEEK! Heya!!! Here's the HOM for the week! I KNOW that since two NET strong eevnts are happening this weeeknd there will be MUCH more to add [HINT HINT HINT] so I'll take entries and put up the list once or twice more. As is I'm hitting two events :) [I can't make Sunday Mass, I gots ta sleep sometime! :) ] Love and miss ya! Melzie aka I can't believe it..my first love...called me tonight.... And without further ado :) **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** The HOM stands for Hookup-O-Matic When: The list is posted Sunday nights and Wed nights. [more if needed] Purpose: To let others know which event you'll be at Allows them to mail you ahead of time to possibly meet up Might help choose which event to go to depending on if people you'd like to see will be there Gives more excitement to upcoming events Planning pre-parties Once enough people say they'll be at another event, someone might plan a pre-party or after-party, if so, it will say so by their login and you can mail them for more information if you're interested Finding crash space If you'll want a place to crash before your drive back, ravers in the area are usually more than happy to allow you to stay over at their places Getting Rides Finding people with available space in their car allows you to arrange a ride for yourself [with the help of the list] Supporting you net friends The list will name if the person is spinning, promoting, running smart bar etc... you can help support your net friends by possibly choosing to attend those events Mail: Mail melzie@wam.umd.edu with your information to be placed on te list Information needed: Login Other Aliases Real name Address [Phone number if you won't be arounda computer] If you need or can offer a ride, where from, how many If you need or can offer crash space and for how many If you're doing anything for the event If you'd like to have a pre or after party Key: N: Needs CR: Crash Space R: Ride O: Offers --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, July 1 NATURAL HIGH Long Island --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bobbles bobbles@cris.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, July 2 DELTA 4 Philly ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Richards [Spinning/Promoting] nigel611@aol.com Melzie melzie@wam.umd.edu Joe aka Speed Racer jpit4903#uriacc.uri.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sunday, July 3 MGP 3 DC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Tiffany [Spinning/Arranging] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Joe aka Speed Racer jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu Melzie [O: CR] melzie@wam.umd.edu Amtime aka Allen [O: R-Columbia] amtime@delphi.com Fish squazi@csws11.ic.sunysb.edu Doug Jason/Method1 lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu Hossam hae2@po.cwru.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, July 7 DAZE Pitts, PA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neith [Love and Frogs] [N: R-Boston] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, July 9 CAMP EARTH Rocky Point Park, RI ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Richards [Spinnin/Promotin] nigel611@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, July 27 ARIA North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenn-Bug [Doin Smart Bar] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 22:14:23 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: MGP anyone? In-Reply-To: <199406290340.XAA18706@holmes.umd.edu> from "Rishad J Quazi" at Jun 28, 94 11:40:32 pm Fish dropped these words a bit ago: > > hi all, > > just wondering how many of y'all will be going to the mobilegroovesposse > netparty this sunday .. i am trying to rustle up some NE folks to come > along with me, if its still going on.. doug? mike? > MGP 3 is still going on and looking better and betta by the day :) Derek Transfused and the MGP possee have been working hard to find the best and phatest sight possible, and we've found a few already. So id ask you to please come with the positive dance energy and good vibes. If people need crash space i can definately accomidate you here at my Apt. so drop me a note over email or leave a message on the MGP info line: (202) 973-2109 peace > peace, > > FiSH > doug ) ( dougie@netcom.com _ _ _ _ _ _ ___________ _________ ________ _______ feel the music soft and mellow _ _ _ _ _ _ _________ ________ _______ _____ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 03:09:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: ****RE: lisalee, buffy, and air Well, after talking to lisaleee on vrave tonite, it seems they are doing a lot better. Lisa is the worst and says "my elbow is dislocated, my knee is so swollen i cant move it, my back and neck hurt, my face is FUCKED!!! i cant open my jaw..." Air and Buffy are not quite as bad..but are still hurt nonetheless. Lisa is now out $14,000 cause neither her or the other driver had insurance. Now Lisa can not get to work to make any money and really would love anything you guys n grrls could send her. She is really down right now....help cheer her up please. I know that it would cheer her up greatly by being able to go to Camp Earth in Rhode Island on 7/9...she was really looking forward to it. If just 14 of you could possibly send just $2 to her, (or 7 sending $4 each, etc...) that would buy her a ticket for Camp Earth. I am sure she would be very appreciative...and would give you a big smoooOOOooOOOOOooOOOOOOOOOCH if she ever met you in person... her address again is lisa lee c/o georgia lee 1831 5th ave. po box 234 troy ny, 12180 like my friend Hossam said so eloquently... "you would want people to do the same for you if you were in that situation. think about it. be glad it wasnt you. be thankful for what you have and help out those who really need it. it will come back to you in the end. and if you really cant do anything, at least send a prayer/send positive vibes out their way. it beats doing nothing. please help out our own. this is the *true* test of what we are all about. i would hope its not superficial." PLUR -- >c a s p e r< ne breaks collective 94 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 04:01:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David A Gallant Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David A Gallant Subject: Re: ****RE: lisalee, buffy, and air In-Reply-To: <199406290709.DAA20599@holmes.umd.edu> from "Casper" at Jun 29, 94 03:09:50 am > > Well, after talking to lisaleee on vrave tonite, it seems they are doing a lot > better. Lisa is the worst and says "my elbow is dislocated, my knee is so > swollen i cant move it, my back and neck hurt, my face is FUCKED!!! i > cant open my jaw..." Air and Buffy are not quite as bad..but are still > hurt nonetheless. > that would buy her a ticket for Camp Earth. I am sure she would > be very appreciative... > ....well now..seeing as lisa has brought a smile to my face more times than i wish to say, i will pick up the price of a ticket for her if she feels up to going.......this is the least i can do, for she is a freind...and desereves that.. air and buffy also deserve a smile..since what happens to one of us affects us all, and they are no better off than lisa....so i hope all of yu out there helpo out in any way you can.... > her address again is > > lisa lee > c/o georgia lee > 1831 5th ave. > po box 234 > troy ny, 12180 > > like my friend Hossam said so eloquently... > > "you would want people to do the same for you if you were in that situation. > think about it. > > be glad it wasnt you. > > be thankful for what you have and help out those who really need it. it > will come back to you in the end. > P L U R . . . . . . . . unity?... -lettuce bee ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 21:10:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: GLOW STIX On 06-26-94, QARHP01!GROOVYBASS%AOL.CO wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU: Q> I've been searching for a place that sells glow sticks for a long Q> time. The only place I ever saw them was at Busch Gardens, but I Q> live in NJ and not one party or toy store has them. Does anyone have Q> any other ideas as to where I could find them? :) I sell them at raves, along with the glow necklaces, when I can get them. What kind of quantity are you looking for? I was supposed to have "blacklight" glowstix for Natural Rhythm, but UPS screwed me, so I just had the normal 6 colors. I WILL BE GETTING THE BLACKLITE GLOWSTIX THIS FRIDAY IF IF HAVE TO STRANGLE THE UPS DUDE! Uh, sorry bout that. You can mail me direct: d3 `-{> --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 21:10:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: glowstix On 06-28-94, RISHAD J QUAZI wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU: RJQ> luckily you live in New Jersey, Corporate home of American RJQ> Cyanamid Corp., makers of such glow sticks, among other such RJQ> things. look them up and see if they sell them to simple folk like RJQ> us. or write to eileen :) American Cyanamid divested in the chemical light business recently, although thier name still appears on all of the products. When I talked to Eileen before Red this year, she said that despite the divestment her company store still had a bucketfull of the 4" size, which I wanted, but when we finally got around to meeting up a couple weeks later, someone had already bought ALL of them. Anyway, most of the suppliers want you to buy in quantity (50+) and that is even a lot for someone like me that will only sell about 10-30 at an average rave. I will give a discount to any netraver on glowing items. And if someone wants me to mail a bunch to them (like 10 or more) than I'll pay for the shipping. d3 `-{> --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 21:10:00 -0500 Reply-To: David Darrow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Darrow Organization: Pics OnLine MultiUser System - 609-753-2540 Subject: sk8r/ravr schtuff On 06-28-94, MONO wrote to NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU: M> > I used to be a skater way back in 87-88-89, back when decks were M> wide, > wheels were fat, and the california surfer look was the way M> to go. Just > how and when and why did all the skateboards become M> these little thin > things with the tiny wheels? If I'm not mistaken M> these are the same as > the freestyle boards that (hmmm lemme think) M> Rodney Mullen and a few > others used to ride. Would I be a geek if M> I broke out the old Schmitt > Stix John Lucero and started doing M> McTwists? M> M> heheh..this is great....i'd like to join in the chorus of old skaters M> (although i was never very good :) ) maybe i'll break out my old M> mark gonzalez pro model ;) with the big phat shredder M> wheels...hmmm...and the tony hawk sticker, and of course....my famous M> *checkered turqoise and black slip-on vans* I guess I'm going to have to chime in here with both my last resurgance of skating (Vision Gator, OJ Teamrider's, Sixtrax, Airwalk velocity's) and my first (if you can believe it) Sims Ultralite 7.5x30, ORIGINAL Gullwings, Kryptonics 70mm blues. Oh and the checkered vans have been around since then as well as Kraftwerk tapes on the concrete skatepark's sound system. Ha! Tony Hawk wasn't even in gradeschool then! Oh, I purposesly left out the part about the Nash "Hot Foot". d3 `-{> --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being evaluated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 04:48:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , keith.flippin@SBAONLINE.GOV Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Keith Flippin Organization: Small Business Administration Subject: FAQ.................... To: ne-raves@umdd.umd.edu N >you'll notice that the faq is getting larger and larger. soon i N >think it will get a little too large to reasonably post every 2-3 N >weeks. N > Yeah, tell me about it. My service provider ate the FAQ due to it's length! Could someone please send me a copy silced up into smaller chunks? Pretty please. Oh, thank you, thank you. While I'm at it I suppose I should introduce myself. Dr. Jesus, resident techno-head at WDCR AM, my college radio station. I've been spinning techno/ambient for about 2 1/2 years now, but I still consider myself new to the scene, as I have yet to attend a major rave. I am hoping to get to Delta 4, though. For those who follow the Philly scene, the only events I have attended thus far were Garden of Eden I & II, and that horrendous benefit thing (Special K?) last summer on Drexel's campus. So, any questions? Any answers? Anyone care for a mint? WDCR 640AM, Media PA BTW, don't let the gov address scare you, it's just a service provider, and I pay for it like everyone else. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 04:58:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LindaLeigh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LindaLeigh@AOL.COM Subject: Kick-it and Ketamine Kitty HI! hi! Hi! hI! I hope all of you are having a good summer so far.....though, it has been HoT, there seems to be a nice vibe in the air.......most recently witnessed ( and experienced :) by Robert and I at Work It! this past weekend. (First about Work It! , then I'll tell ya about Ketamine Kitty.) But even before all that, I'd like to extend warm healing thoughts to 3 of the friendliest, vibeiest, fun girls-- Lisalee, Arianne and Buffy.........Rob and I had just met them that night at Work It!--Thank God you're all ok! Ok, now on to Work-it! A few Days before the event the info line said the location would be changed. and further info could be had the day before or of the event. The line also informed that the DJ's would remain the same ( Hmm, we didn't see Wink, or Blake (whom I can never hear enough of!), there seemed to be perhaps 1 0r 2 other ones missing as well.) The space happened to be an interesting choice! In an area of Philly that's out, out in Rural Suburbia--an area that really hasn't seen much of 'that sort of thing', and as it turned out, an area that was giving Rob the Heebie-Jeebies, it was near where he grew up! Ahhh...the memories came a-floodin back....anyhows it was called 'Shawnee at Highpoint' and was this massive complex of Catering Halls and Recreation facilities (man, that HUGE swimming pool sure looked inviting in the morning ;) --Rob said his High School reunion was there! You walked in downstairs from the party....the strains of Sinatra singing , with a sub bass distortion feeling were in the air.... , later we found out Nigel spun the Sinatra during 1 of his ambient sets :) There were profesionally printed signs advising about No Plastic or glass bottles, no pens ! , only cig smoking in designated areas, etc...Security at the door (2 guys, 1 girl) was Quite 'searching', man, she pulled out and looked at Everything in my bag, she almost had second thoughts about letting me keep my metal Kazzoo!!! $18.oo later and a handstamp of the 2 hammers crossed Work It! logo thing (in & out ok!) --- Up the steps, and around the bend....there was a fairly large open area, people were milling about, there was an immediate sense of a friendly vibe in the air--to the left was a kinda smallish space were 2 or 3 vendors, a cig smoking/rest area with some tables and chairs, and a projection screen with some neat images running all night. To the right and forward was a large bar where you clould buy bottled water ($1.25!!!! what's with the .25?), some juices and some really nasty tasting sports drink : p There was a 'waitress' behind this bar...I loved watching her face during the night, her expression really never changed.....horrified she was, Rob attempted to talk to her, and said "I guess this is sorta different for you" She could barely manage to say, "yes, yes it is". Maybe she was amazed how so many people could be friendly and grooving together! Between the bar and said cig/rest area, j2 set up his vending station, where, once again, I could not resist getting another t-shirt! Now, to the farhter right was the large dance area, it had a very open feel to it....which was kinda odd, and it was lit kinda bright--BUT, it had one of the coolest DJ setups (from the dancers POV)...the booth was set off with yellow security ribbon, Robo scans shot across the front of that area, while another was placed,like, behind the top of the dj's right shoulder....The effect was the DJ was in silhouette while the multicolored shafts of light spun dreamily around them...very nice! There was a moderate size dance floor here (that baby powder works good!, wish I liked the smell better!) The music here was harder, lots of breaks to be had, On-e spun the only 'real' hardcore set (glad I bought a T shirt to change!) OK, now to the front and back of this space.....the Ambient area abutted the harder one, there was no wall, thick cloth was put up...John Hicks was calling up the sounds of nature on the decks, using the backround bass as a layer of sound....this part of the place was soo cool! Literally and Fig wise, it was all glassed in, a solarium, very chilly temp wise, and you could sit back and gaze at the moon........About 2;30 on till 7 am Nigel spun everything from ambient to some harder stuff, And made some intersting soundz with a Roland 101! There were a few sets of different sized drums and an impromptu drumming circle formed for awhile. The back of the space was walled off and acessed by corredors right and left---Here's where the 'House room' was, this room was really cookin!! Interesting dancing on carpets! Great sets by Debo and Terry Mullen (! THIS GUY IS GREAT!)--We both really enjoyed this room, the music was more funky, cool, trancy and vibey than pure house.......it was a lovely stew! As the night Flew! by, and the vibe got stronger--we met So many wonderful new people...there were a ton of people we hadn't seen around before, that part was great! A Great Big Hug to Stasia , Margaret, Lisalee, Arianne, Buffy, Carey, J2, Nigel,Marcus,and, Raven (the Soap Box King,Prince of Tides, Commander of Cheer.) 7 am approaced, and we heard there was to be No afterparty .......some people went on to NR, we took the rare chance to have breakfast (at breakfast time!) at this doughnut shop -"Yum Yum"! Where thier motto is--'Make the Most of Moments, Munch Muffins' Honest, the sign said this. OK, if you're still with me here--I'll tell y'all about my cat, Mitzy VanNote. I recently got her fixed. Now Mitz the Fritz is a really intellegent and sweet little girl cat...so we takes her to the Vet, Ole Doc Wilson, and he fixes her up right good, and tells us to pick her up 4:30 that Same Day!!! He's very old fashioned, doesn't beleive in keeping them overnight to 'recover' Well, my friends, let me tell you why most vets keep them overnight (aside from the fact that they're groggy with anesthesia, and that they soil themselves).....gentle reader, it's because they don't want you to see the cat Hallucinate! Yes! I saw it, Rob saw it...that cat was Trippin! Eyes darting here, there....odd soft sounds, strange head movements...she didn't recognize us, or she really didn't care to...and our neutered male cate who is her Best Buddy growled and hissed at her in her carrier/cage...........makes you wonder why they don't use ketamine more often on the Operating Room (it was giving people very vivid 'images' while under the stuff) Oh yeah, by the way, only females get the luxury of this kitty trip...seems the males just get a short acting anesthetic agent ( k is intermed to long acting.) A slit is made above the sac, the testicles are squeezed out and snipped at the vasculature...1 small thread of suture, and Voila! Usually, in a few minutes, the now neutered cat will wake up and begin to play! Can U beleive this, Men! Really! :) Sorry if that was kinda gross, life is gross ain't it, gorgeousness and grossness existing in the same plane of reality..............Hey! I'll try to post more often, I know this one was long......And we hope to run into many of you very soon! the music is pumpin, feel it thumpin, ain't it somethin? Linda (and Rob!) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 05:06:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LindaLeigh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LindaLeigh@AOL.COM Subject: It was Work-it!, not Kick-it!--sorry OOOOOOOpppps......I goofed with the title.......guess I was a bit too much into the alliteration thingee! While I'm here again, is there anyone who's going to be going to the Lalapaloza in Philly this August? Rob and I gave in and got tickets....we wanna see the Beastie Boyz rappin it up with the Dali Lama! ok, till later! Linda ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 06:55:04 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: Re: GLOW STIX Glow stix ......... Anyone ever put one in their mouth - you know, the small little glow sticks, stick it in sideways , open your mouth --- it looks really mad, especially under u.v. light DONT BITE THEM - IT TASTES HORRIBLE :) "Keep the faith" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 09:59:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Re: MGP anyone? In-Reply-To: <199406290340.XAA18706@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 28 Jun 1994, Rishad J Quazi wrote: > hi all, > > just wondering how many of y'all will be going to the mobilegroovesposse > netparty this sunday .. i am trying to rustle up some NE folks to come > along with me, if its still going on.. doug? mike? > > peace, > > FiSH Where is it? I've got no plans this weekend and have never been to a MGP party and would like to go. Peace FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 10:37:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: MGP anyone? In-Reply-To: <199406291400.KAA22250@holmes.umd.edu> > >Where is it? I've got no plans this weekend and have never been to a MGP >party and would like to go. > Peace > FiNGER Yo take me along!! :) brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 10:56:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: ****RE: lisalee, buffy, and air In-Reply-To: <199406290709.DAA20599@holmes.umd.edu> Not sure if this has been mentioned, but if anything should come out of this, it should be WEAR A DAMN SEATBELT. Its a small price to pay. Im glad to hear nobody was injured to seriously, it could've been a lot worse. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ flu'id (floo'-) (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) fluid@freezer.cns.udel.edu :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:03:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Eileen Reilly Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Eileen Reilly Subject: Re: GLOW STIX > > Glow stix ......... > > Anyone ever put one in their mouth - you know, the small > little glow sticks, stick it in sideways , open your mouth > --- it looks really mad, especially under u.v. light > > DONT BITE THEM - IT TASTES HORRIBLE :) Yeah, and the glass cutting your mouth wouldn't taste so wonderful either :) eileen ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:30:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Peter Yellen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Peter Yellen Hey, I was wondering if DJ Keoki was going to play in the NE region any time soon.. if anyone knows, please reply! ( I heard something about the Limelight... maybe?) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 12:08:01 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Keoki In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 29 Jun 1994 11:30:03 EDT I would suggest hearing him in his element, at the slimelight every Wednesday which is called Disco 2000. The stories I keep hearing about this guy's ego keeps giving me a good laugh from day to day considering he still can't properly mix two records together after all these years. Go there so you can see him arrive in his limo (I hear he was demanding a limo to Sputnik recently when the guest DJs from Europe were being picked up in a regular car) and bask in the attention his club kid worshipping entourage gives him. yeah! let's all go to the slime and worship all the DJs there! NOT. Sorry for the sarcastic tone but as a DJ, it troubles me to see other DJs who do it only for fame and 'fabulousness.' ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 12:13:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GroovyBass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GroovyBass@AOL.COM Subject: Re: It was Work-it!, not... >While I'm here again, is there anyone who's going to be going to the >Lalapaloza in Philly this August? Rob and I gave in and got >tickets....we >wanna see the Beastie Boyz rappin it up with the Dali Lama! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ say what!? kenji groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 10:05:45 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: re hi and all that Now that I'm reading mail on a sparc-10 at work and have my own office so my boss can't see me goofing off, I've decided I don't get enough email and so am back on the ne-raves list. For those of you who don't know me, let me introduce myself: My name is Laura and I was on ne-raves back when it started in May of 1992. I used to live in New Jersey and would go to parties all over the East Coast. For a while I helped to administer the ne-raves list, and I also threw a couple of pre-rave parties for the list back in late 1992. Last summer I hung out with Ed, Eileen, Phil, and Will-E a lot and had a great time going to the Back to Basics parties. I also DJed a little bit at various small parties around the ne-raves-area. With HUGE amounts of help from Ed, Phil, and Will, I tried to organize "Alchemy" for early 1994, but we got screwed over by the weather and by a rather dingy landlord. Oh well. Right after that I moved to San Francisco to be with my boyfriend and because I got a good job working for a computer company in Silicon Valley. San Francisco is a nice place to live, but the scene has problems just like everywhere else: money problems, space problems, cop problems, club kid problems, drug problems, stagnation problems. I'm not saying it's bad here, not at all: I manage to have a good amount of fun mostly due to a few very active people on the sfraves mailing list who own their own sound systems and therefore organize small parties frequently. I'm about six hours from Los Angeles, but have only gone down there once since moved. I had a great time, though, and plan to go back down there again. I guess this is enough for now . . . by the way, I'll be back the weekend of August 13 -- I have a cousin who is getting married in Manhattan (did I spell it right, Ed?) so hopefully there will be a decent party going on that night so I can see some of you. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:19:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Re: MGP anyone? In-Reply-To: (null) On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Brian O. Bozarth wrote: > > > >Where is it? I've got no plans this weekend and have never been to a MGP > >party and would like to go. > > Peace > > FiNGER > > Yo take me along!! :) > > brian/lunatik Hey! Me too...i wanna go to...but the kerokerokeroppi mobile shouldn't venture out of a 200 mile radius until July 18th...so if anyone from the Cleve, Akron, Pitts., area *is* going and can take an extra rider...email me and fast... chinagrrrl ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 13:46:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Re: re hi and all that In-Reply-To: <9406291706.AA16999@media.mit.edu>; from "Laura La Gassa" at Jun 29, 94 10:05 am like you needed to introduce yourself laura :) -John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------========== ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 14:38:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Re: Keoki In-Reply-To: (null) On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, WILL-E wrote: > > yeah! let's all go to the slime and worship all the DJs there! NOT. > > Sorry for the sarcastic tone but as a DJ, it troubles me to see other DJs > who do it only for fame and 'fabulousness.' > > > ___ > / / / / / / _ __/ > (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ well... i know that as a DJ yourself you have a different set of requirements...however I have always enjoyed things that had flair, fabulousness and a tendency for the dramatic...no matter how obnoxious it is...Keoki *is* most definiatly obnoxious, but in a wonderful way...I enjoy him and have for 5 years. Chinagrrrl ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:03:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: Re: MGP anyone? In-Reply-To: <199406291721.NAA25041@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Krystin . Dauchy wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Brian O. Bozarth wrote: > > > > > > >Where is it? I've got no plans this weekend and have never been to a MGP > > >party and would like to go. > > > Peace > > > FiNGER > > > > Yo take me along!! :) > > > > brian/lunatik > > Hey! Me too...i wanna go to...but the kerokerokeroppi mobile shouldn't > venture out of a 200 mile radius until July 18th...so if anyone from the > Cleve, Akron, Pitts., area *is* going and can take an extra rider...email > me and fast... > > chinagrrrl Well, I'm so glad everyone wants to go, and i could probably take a few people but like i said i've never been to one and don't know wher they are (city). please get back to me =) Peace FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:18:14 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jonathan Kadish Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jonathan Kadish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: keoki @ the limelight In-Reply-To: <199406291531.LAA23649@holmes.umd.edu> Keokie spins every night at the Limelight its called Disco 2000. ;) CAT (purrrrrrrr) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:14:03 MST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jason Hyerstay Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Hyerstay Organization: Adrenaline Online Subject: Introduction Well, since I've been lurking on this list for a couple of weeks now, I figured I should introduce myself and become a part of the scene. I'd also like some info on how to get one of those PLUR badges everyone talks about... My name is Jason Hyerstay and I grew up in Charlotte, Vermont for 18 years. Now I'm an environmental design student at the University of Colorado at Boulder soon to be starting my sophomore year. However, I am home in Vermont for this summer, which is one reason that I'm on this mailing list. I first got into electronic music by listening to "Music from the Hearts of Space" on public radio when I was younger, but I was truly turned on to it when I borrowed the Orb CD "Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld" from a friend when I happened to see the cool cover at his apartment in February of 1993. Now I have over 22 Orb albums and singles, so I guess you could call them my favorite band. The first rave in Vermont was right in my town, but I missed it, since I still had no clue about what raves were all about except what I read in bOING bOING, Mondo 2000, net zines or other indirect sources. The first rave I attended was Return to Eden on August 28, 1993 and it was in the foothills north of Boulder, with DJs Doc Martin (L.A.), Robert Vaughn (Dallas), Ecstatic (San Diego) and probably some Boulder/Denver locals, although I'm not sure. It was my first time tripping (LSD) and I had an incredible time, even though I really didn't know anyone and there were maybe 3,000 people there. They had two nine-screen video banks (i.e. nine screens in a square creating one image), lasers playing off the hillsides (very cool!) and and a soundsystem that kicked ass. It was probably the best rave I've been to and it completely jump-started my interest in the scene. Over the year, I started buying ambient and trance CDs and gradually selling off my older, non-electronic music, as well as attending several more raves (though probably not as many as I should have). Some other good events I went to were Experiments in Sound, which was in a church with DJ Keoki and some locals (you danced where the alter would have been and chilled out in the pews or in another roomQquite cool!) and the first Rubber Room, where I saw DJ Lewis and Autechre live on four hits of acid. That night was especially cool, since I got to see the four hour version of Dune while chilling out at a friend's house in the morning. In February of this year, I became a DJ at our local college station and started buying vinyl for my ambient and trance show. Thanks to Nathan and Dave at Albums up, I started to rally find records that fit my mind and I decided that I wanted to spin for more than just the radio. I don't yet have 1200's, but I'm working on it. Now that I've come home for the summer, I've just been chilling out at home, partying and looking for a job. The only time I get to hear good techno is when I play it at home or on the local college station for UVM, which has some pretty cool shows. However, I have yet to go to a rave back east and am itching for a chance. I wanted to go to one in Montreal a couple of weekends ago, but the person who was supposed to give me a ride never picked me up. Anyway, I am interested in anything within a reasonable driving distance of Burlington, Vermont. To the rave community, I can offer my bulletin board system, Adrenaline Online, which serves Mac users, civil libertarians, cyberpunks and anyone interested in electronic freedom, electronic music and the future of technology, communication and culture. I bring in a bunch of internet newsgroups and lists and users can send and recieve internet email with their own addresses here. Right now, the system is free and rather low key, but when I bring it back to Boulder, I will be expanding it and trying to make it a useful part of the scene. Hopefully I can keep it free for everyone with a few donations from users. If you'd like to call to check it out, I recommend that you use FirstClass Client, to take advantage of the graphical interface and backround file transfers. The number is (802) 425-2332 and it is up 24/7 at 14.4K. Tell your non-internet friends about it if they are having trouble getting free news and email service. On the internet, the domain name is adrenaline.com and on OneNet, it is Adrenaline. Personally, I'm just a relaxed guy who enjoys trippy music and epic soundscapes as well as a good share of acid and darker, almost industrial music. I consider myself a sort of cyberpunk and I'm addicted to creative technoloy and the possibilities of the future. I enjoy exploring my mind and making connections in my thoughts, and music is one of my favorite ways to do that, sometimes with the help of marijuana or LSD, although I try not to become pychologically overdependant on any substance (besides music and technology). I am trying to teach myself to trip out without drugs to prepare myself for sometime in the future where it may not be healthy or wise for me to do recreational chemical drugs. I hope to eventually work in computer graphics and animation, industrial design, cinema special effects or architectureQor any job where I can get paid to play with and create with technology. I'm also into soccer, biking, croquet (especially when stoned!), and dancing at raves or clubs. Also, I'm heterosexual and currently single. I guess that's enough, since I hope to meet some of you at raves this summer before I head back to Boulder for good. If any of you are in Vermont and need a place to crash or chill and want to listen to some cool music, feel free to call me or email me. My phone is (802) 425-2800 and my email address is hyerstay@adrenaline.com. Pleased to join you all, -Jay P.S. - How can I get a PLUR badge? * /| |\ |-\ /-- \ | /\ | | \ | /-- * Adrenaline Online (FirstClass) * * /-| | \ |_/ |- |\| /--| | | |\| |- * adrenaline.com * 802-425-2332 * * / | |_/ | \ \-- | \ | | |-- | | \ \-- * Admin: hyerstay@adrenaline.com * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 15:50:10 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , XtoFer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: XtoFer Subject: Re: Keoki > > well... i know that as a DJ yourself you have a different set of > requirements...however I have always enjoyed things that had flair, > fabulousness and a tendency for the dramatic...no matter how obnoxious it > is...Keoki *is* most definiatly obnoxious, but in a wonderful way...I > enjoy him and have for 5 years. > > Chinagrrrl > -- End of excerpt from "Krystin . Dauchy" Thank you China...I like Keoki home...and recently almost ventured home for one night (seven hours which isn't bad...except my *family* lives at my home :) )...just hear the man the myth the legend in Chattanooga... As we know clubbing is different than raving...but they can both be fun...and exciting...and all that! Later kids. Peace and love. XtoFer cte9q@virginia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 16:44:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christopher R Dagdigian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christopher R Dagdigian Subject: camp earth Does anybody know if the $5 camping passes at camp earth need to be purchased for each person or each tent? also... How many people are going to this event? Any chance of setting up a cybertribe tent-city? -dag ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 17:37:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: Keoki >On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, WILL-E wrote: >> >> Sorry for the sarcastic tone but as a DJ, it troubles me to see other DJs >> who do it only for fame and 'fabulousness.' > >well... i know that as a DJ yourself you have a different set of >requirements...however I have always enjoyed things that had flair, >fabulousness and a tendency for the dramatic...no matter how obnoxious it > >Chinagrrrl > Me too (especially pro freestylers)!!! ;) *smooches China* ...Mars. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:00:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: Re: Keoki sheesh have a little fun some times. the only reason i (and other) DJs are doing what we are doing is because we like it... i LOVE sonic youth, and i hate to hear the same prepy bastards knock them and say that"after all these years thaty still can't play their instruments".. maybe somebody does like Keoki's style, if you don't like it, don't knock it... the reason he is where he is now is because somebody thought that he was good enough, and better than somebody else... rave on (and respect others) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:08:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: PARANOIA this friday night!!!!! hmm, we've SECURED the space... we've SECURED the sound system... the party WILL BE FREE (donations requested) 10pm (or around that) to whenever we decide to quit (10am or 4pm) :) FRIDAY, 1-JULY 1994 DJ ESIO trance, tribal, breakbeats, etc 1000 freakout, acid, classic acid house, hardcore, ambient, etc... (maybe some others, surprise, surprise) the location is a big old house in the middle of bumblefuck Elmira NY... tell all your friends, bring all your friends... no age limit or age requirement... have fun and chill with us :) more info to come...... rave on! 1000 p.s. did i mention the outdoor space??? hmmmmmmmmm full moon anyone???? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 18:22:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , TSIMPSON@MARY.FORDHAM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Terence Simpson Subject: Re: nyc For everyone's info, the Living Room is no longer happening. Thursdays at the Tunnel are Scotto's party, but are not NASA parties. Scotto is supposedly starting a new Friday night party soon (JULY 1 ??) To the best of my knowledge Scotto and DB (who teamed up to start NASA in the Summer of 1992) are no longer working together. They are both friends of mine and I am not siding with one or the other. It seems that there was some disagreement about the NASA label that Profile Records has been working on for the past year or so. (DB works at Profile.) I will continue to update ne-raves on the state of NASA. peace Terence ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 20:14:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Re: Keoki In-Reply-To: (null) X On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, D.J.MARS wrote: > >On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, WILL-E wrote: > >> > >> Sorry for the sarcastic tone but as a DJ, it troubles me to see other DJs > >> who do it only for fame and 'fabulousness.' > > > >well... i know that as a DJ yourself you have a different set of > >requirements...however I have always enjoyed things that had flair, > >fabulousness and a tendency for the dramatic...no matter how obnoxious it > > > >Chinagrrrl > > > Me too (especially pro freestylers)!!! > > ;) > *smooches China* > > ...Mars. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 20:39:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Smellen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ellen Steuer Subject: Re: MGP anyone? >Where is it? I've got no plans this weekend and have never been to a MGP >party and would like to go. > Peace > FiNGER :Yo take me along!! :) :brian/lunatik me too! ellen/smileE ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 21:07:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PAGANO@HI1.HIRG.BNL.GOV Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tom Pagano Subject: tapes, india, affordable space travel I've got three quick questions that maybe someone can answer... is there really a group of ravers, about two years ago, from all over the world that just picked up and all moved off to india and now live there? I've heard this from a couple people, but I'm not sure if it's true. And how do I get there? Also, why isn't there affordable space travel, available to the public? What's the deal? They say that when learning to ride a bicycle, once you learn, you never forget- why is it that there hasn't been a man on the moon since the 1970's? Can we start some kind of petition to divert all money now going to the government, to go to NASA? They say that when you live on the moon, you don't work as hard, so you might be able to live to be 500. That would be nice. We could leave the earth and turn it into a wildlife preserve. Also, does NE-raves have some kind of tape exchange? I have a bzillion tapes but I've listened to them all. I'm on a hot search for Acid, Ambient, and anything from Detriot, and anything on the Fax label. If someone wants to exchange tapes, my address until july 30th is: after then: Thomas Pagano T.P. c/o HIRG 8 Trowbridge Lane Physics Dept Bldg 510D Shrewsbury MA 01545 Brookhaven Natl. Lab Po Box 5000 (508) 842-3925 Upton NY 11973 seppermint sirius, Tom ps. If you write, I'll send you a cool story about a guy that wakes up in the middle of the ocean... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 22:31:16 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Lem Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Lem Subject: RI party(wonder twins) apparently the party in RI wasbusted by the police before they could even start the music..the party was relocated to a warehouse in prov but it was busted too... sheesh..cant kids have a little fun?, kerry ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 22:46:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM2 OV DE VEEK! I like that it grew..but I want to see the names just FLOOD for Delta and MGP :) C'mon, two KICK ASS *FREE* parties...... Can't ya feel it? Can't you feel that restless raver within ya needin to get out and dance!!!!! [well, I can :) giggle] Eh..just ignore me...I didn't sleep much this morning.... Love ya like the sunshine.... Melzie aka Le Freak..C'est Chic! **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** The HOM stands for Hookup-O-Matic When: The list is posted Sunday nights and Wed nights. [more if needed] Purpose: To let others know which event you'll be at Allows them to mail you ahead of time to possibly meet up Might help choose which event to go to depending on if people you'd like to see will be there Gives more excitement to upcoming events Planning pre-parties Once enough people say they'll be at another event, someone might plan a pre-party or after-party, if so, it will say so by their login and you can mail them for more information if you're interested Finding crash space If you'll want a place to crash before your drive back, ravers in the area are usually more than happy to allow you to stay over at their places Getting Rides Finding people with available space in their car allows you to arrange a ride for yourself [with the help of the list] Supporting you net friends The list will name if the person is spinning, promoting, running smart bar etc... you can help support your net friends by possibly choosing to attend those events Mail: Mail melzie@wam.umd.edu with your information to be placed on te list Information needed: Login Other Aliases Real name Address [Phone number if you won't be arounda computer] If you need or can offer a ride, where from, how many If you need or can offer crash space and for how many If you're doing anything for the event If you'd like to have a pre or after party Key: N: Needs CR: Crash Space R: Ride O: Offers --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, July 1 NATURAL HIGH Long Island --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bobbles bobbles@cris.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, July 2 DELTA 4 Philly ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Richards [Spinning/Promoting] nigel611@aol.com Justin cybermouse@dscmail.com Melzie melzie@wam.umd.edu Joe aka Speed Racer jpit4903#uriacc.uri.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sunday, July 3 MGP 3 DC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Tiffany [Spinning/Arranging] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Joe aka Speed Racer jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu Melzie [O: CR] melzie@wam.umd.edu Amtime aka Allen [O: R-Columbia] amtime@delphi.com Ccherry aka Scott [N: R-Fairfax] ccherry@mason1/gmu.edu Fish squazi@csws11.ic.sunysb.edu Mono aka Aaron stu-awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu Doug China [N: R-Cleve, Akron, Pitts] r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Jason/Method1 lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu Hossam hae2@po.cwru.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thursday, July 7 DAZE Pitts, PA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neith [Love and Frogs] [N: R-Boston] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, July 9 CAMP EARTH Rocky Point Park, RI ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nigel Richards [Spinnin/Promotin] nigel611@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, July 27 ARIA North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenn-Bug [Doin Smart Bar] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jun 1994 23:20:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: tapes, india, affordable space travel In-Reply-To: <199406300139.VAA29845@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Tom Pagano wrote: > is there really a group of ravers, about two years ago, > from all over the world that just picked up and all > moved off to india and now live there? I've heard this > from a couple people, but I'm not sure if it's true. > And how do I get there? I think you may be referring to the scene that was going on out in Goa in India. This wasn't a spontaneous group of ravers, but a continuation of some bizarre gathering trend that just happened to be quite natural for ravers. From my understanding alot of the European ravers would head out there and party, and a great vibe was going on. I haven't heard much about it lately, but I have heard (now entering Rumourville) that there has been trouble in that paradise. Something about the authorities. I have also heard that lots of them just up and relocated to Australia. Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 00:00:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , finger Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: finger Subject: MGP - Not this time =( Hey, sorry to let you all know (those who wanted rides) I don't think i'm gonna make it to MGP because i really am not up for another 4 hour drive this week. I am maybe going to a party in Dayton on Sat. to meet up with a friend i haven't seen in a while. If any of you from the area (pgh) want to go too i can probably offer 2 or 3 spaces in my car for a little gas money. I'm not sure of the name but i know Diesel Boy, Shaft, Dreamer, and some others are playing (someone from Chicago or Detroit or somewhere but i can't remember who, their info line is 513-496-1071 if u wanna find out). Plus i've never been to Dayton and it's about time i check out some new cities and do my part to support their growing scene. So if you're up for it just e-mail me back and we'll see what we can do. Peace FiNGER ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 00:09:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: DELTA 4/BREATHE FOLKS! Join a wild bunch of freaks at the last of the DELTA parties. DELTA is a charitable event so please bring canned food for the homeless. This is another7utdoor event like th elast one. We are asking for a $3-5 donation to cover costs which are escalated. We are also having many DJ's and a free picnic with barbecue. Please call (215) 631-2666 for info. This should really be a blast. We will be well prepared for the transportation difficulties as well. Please Join us Saturday July 2, 1994. Call the Devil-Line for info and times. (215)631-2666. thanks, Nigel. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 00:37:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jill Subject: websterhall i have two complimentary passes to webster hall, nyc for a wednesday evening. if anyone is interested in using them, mail me your address and i shall send them to you. i don't think i'll get around to using them and there's no sense in letting them go to waste :) smiles- jill unrest@wam.umd.edu --is anyone going to the rooftop rave in nyc this friday, freedom on saturday or thinking about going to the hayden planetarium for a juicy lazer light show? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 02:09:26 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , De Hearticle Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: De Hearticle Poseur Organization: not exactly a synonym for this boy Subject: Re: websterhall hey i'll take em (if you still have em) Send to... Kreig Zimmerman 210 First Avenue #7 New York NY 10009 thank you in advance... ::::::::::::::::::: boom bap past electro future De Hearticle Poseur he is: K Rock-Ski! kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Electro808@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 02:10:38 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , De Hearticle Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: De Hearticle Poseur Organization: not exactly a synonym for this boy Subject: Re: websterhall oops never meant that to go to the list sorry. ::::::::::::::::::: boom bap past electro future De Hearticle Poseur he is: K Rock-Ski! kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu Electro808@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:23:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: MGP - Not this time =( In-Reply-To: <199406300400.AAA01184@holmes.umd.edu> finger: Hey, I'm interested! (^_^)__(( take me! )) laters, brian/lunatiK 682-0911 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:28:18 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: ignore last post whoops..that was supposed to be private!! eck..I hate it when that happens. (*_*)___(( oops! )) brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:48:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Obin Robinson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Obin Robinson Subject: PARANOIA update hmm, PARANOIA is gonna be phat!!! Esio and I have schemed up a hell of a vibe- generator for this friday. I'm dusting off some OLD OLD acid house records, and taking some techno classics out for this one. Here's what it looks like: 10pm-12pm Esio: tribal, trance, acid, 12pm-2am 1000: acid freakout, ambient, trance, 2am-?? Esio: breaks, trance, ??-?? 1000: acid house, classic techno, ??-?? ?????: Surprise, he he he We've got a lightshow that is truly underground. Hint: technically, we all own it :). The space has ample chill-out area and parking is plentiful. Remember that this is a free party, we are not demanding your hard-earned cash to make us rich. There will be a donation jar to help us keep this event strong, and support the cost of cleanup. The house is hidden from view of the road by big bushes, and there are no nosy neighbours. We have some security snoopers (undercover), and some bouncers to keep people safe. Come on up and meet us, chill out with us (there'll be a lot of that, he he) i will post the complete directions later tonight, for further info: contact me at my e-mail address, i will read my mail all the way up to 8pm tomorrow night. the occupancy of the place is pretty good. we have a nice sound system, and a bag of effects tricks to boot. any net-raver DJ's will probably get a chance to spin, but i can't promise. if you miss this party, i feel sorry for you, the location is central to almost all of new york, and not far from pennsylvania. you have no excuse, he he he. location hint: On Lake Street, in Elmira, inbetween a swamp, and a warehouse, and a roller rink, in a big old house, by a road. more info to come.... rave on! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 09:55:49 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: nyc info please :) In-Reply-To: <199406282229.SAA16896@holmes.umd.edu>; from "SPeCiMeN" at Jun 28, 94 6:29 pm nasa is reopening in what used to be xenons in times square.... look in liquid sky for flers etc about upcoming events peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 10:11:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "hydrogen.glow" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: "hydrogen.glow" Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: cosmic baby live in NYC just to let you know... cosmic baby will be playing at the BANK in nyc soon.. i don't know the date... or who is putting it on... if anyone knows.. please post it to the list... i saw flyers for it last night.. but.. never picked one up or looked at it carefully enough... i know there are some big cosmic baby fans here.. so, i thought i'd get the word out as soon as possible... peace ...taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 10:20:20 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: GLOW STIX In-Reply-To: <199406291157.HAA21382@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Justin Flavin" at Jun 29, 94 6:55 am > > Glow stix ......... > > Anyone ever put one in their mouth - you know, the small > little glow sticks, stick it in sideways , open your mouth > --- it looks really mad, especially under u.v. light > > DONT BITE THEM - IT TASTES HORRIBLE :) > > "Keep the faith" > not to metion poisonous -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 10:26:30 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: It was Work-it!, not... In-Reply-To: <199406291614.MAA24280@holmes.umd.edu>; from "GroovyBass@AOL.COM" at Jun 29, 94 12:13 pm > > >While I'm here again, is there anyone who's going to be going to the > >Lalapaloza in Philly this August? Rob and I gave in and got >tickets....we > >wanna see the Beastie Boyz rappin it up with the Dali Lama! > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > say what!? > > kenji > groovybass@aol.com > not to mention (or perhaps especially to mention) george clinton and the p-funk allstars -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 10:41:57 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: tapes, india, affordable space travel In-Reply-To: <199406300139.VAA29845@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Tom Pagano" at Jun 29, 94 9:07 pm freaks, sadhus, seekers,ravers,hippies, and lots of others have been partying on the beaches of goa, in india foir some 30 years now.... BEST RAVES IVE EVER BEEN TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you fly there... airfare is expensive living is cheap... the season is from octobor to april, after that it rains -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 10:55:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Smellen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ellen Steuer Subject: Re: websterhall hi i just moved here to Nyc for the summer. i am up to going to any parties in the area this weekend. if you want to hook up please let me know. L8r ellen/smileE ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:03:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: Re: cosmic baby live in NYC In-Reply-To: <199406301413.KAA03953@holmes.umd.edu> > >just to let you know... > >cosmic baby will be playing at the BANK in nyc soon.. holy gazooks!! I'm there!!!!!! more info please! (^-^) brian/lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:17:11 EDT Reply-To: South East Rave List Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: Dougie Fresh Comments: Originally-From: Derek Tiffany From: Dougie Fresh Subject: trancemission... This is a message from derek (transfused boyee!) and all. Remember if anyone coming into town needs a crash space contact me and alsoA it looks like this site will be inside the beltway :) peace doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hey all...derek here (gasp) Anyway, don't know if iy's been posted yet but MGP #3 (Take Off) is taking place this Sunday July 3rd outside of DC...should be free, fun, and full of vibe...DJs include Nigel Richards, myself, Jason Leder, Inhuman, Tzeech...others will be in the house too...info avail at 804.768.2000...the DC line is (202) 973-2109 Also, TranceFused will be helping to throw a party in Charlottesville on July 16 at the Jefferson Theatre (home of WIGGLE). We're working on DJ's now but I think everyone knows the kind of quality events that take place in that space...once again, info will be avail at 804.768.2000. ok, that should do it for now...sorry I haven't been all that active on the net lately but..err...well, things happen... :) oh yah...I'm trying to decide what to do for July 8th...Raindance or the thing in Charlottesville....I have my doubts about the people behind Raindance...but I'd love to catch Andy...and see all my NC buds (although I got to see some of them at Natural Rhythem which was INCREDIBLE)... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 11:28:25 EST Reply-To: Tareq Alrashid Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: TMA@KUWAIT.ELP.CWRU.EDU Subject: ROM Hi all, I was just wondering whatever happened to the R-O-M, is it still being posted here on weekly bases or was that changed during the time I was gone!? if it is still being posted, I have not seen it since I got back on the list. 8( Any help is appreciated, God know how long it has been since I have gone ravingly maaaaaaaaad. e-mail me if yo have it the latest. thanks. tma@po.cwru.edu Over and out, Peace, TAREQ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:17:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Eileen Reilly Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Eileen Reilly Subject: Re: GLOW STIX > > > > Glow stix ......... > > > > Anyone ever put one in their mouth - you know, the small > > little glow sticks, stick it in sideways , open your mouth > > --- it looks really mad, especially under u.v. light > > > > DONT BITE THEM - IT TASTES HORRIBLE :) > > > > "Keep the faith" > > > > not to metion poisonous No, at least the ones that cyanamid used to make are non-toxic. that's just in case some kid decides it would be nice to have their mouth glow. eileen ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:59:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: NYC info Several people have been asking what's up in New York City. I suggest you call (212)696-8939, which is Alan Sanctuary's info line for events taking place in the area. He always keeps it updated. This Saturday is the 2 year anniversary and last Primal event called FREEDOM. The price has been dropped to $14 and the location moved. Here's why: the event was going to take place near Times Square but a rival promoter took the space from underneath the promoter's noses. No names mentioned but if you've been following the petty rivalry going on here in Manhattan, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I guess the rival promoter figured that they could take the space and get not only their crowd but also trick those people who would be going to the Primal event. The new location has been used before, the space fits about 2,000 comfortably, the security is agreeable and is bust proof. To get the new location, call the phone number above on Saturday. Tickets will only be sold at the door and there will be no guest list. The DJs have been confirmed, Wink, Abraxas, Soul slinger, DJ Reese, Happy, Odi, Jojo, Micro, Ryde, Joeski, Dave Trance, Damon Wild, & Mr. Kleen. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:05:51 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: SOME QUESTIONS FROM Europe Any of you American nutters ;-) ever heard the following English dj's and what do you think of them : Carl Cox Top Buzz Micky Finn LTJ Bukem DJ SS Justin Robertson Grooverider My fav has to be Carl Cox - "Fatty Carlos, the 3 deck wizard" Ciao! Justin F. (All the way from Ireland, begorah! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 14:05:54 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , justin_flavin@FMC.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Justin Flavin Subject: adrenline member Another note to Jason (adrenaline) Dont get lost in unreality - you know what I mean ;-) Unreality isnt everything - sooner or later the real world comes back with a bang Dont let unreality spill over into your everyday life Justin F. (Irish raver) Keep rushin' ! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 15:34:28 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: SOME QUESTIONS FROM Europe In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 30 Jun 94 14:05:51 -0500. <9406301917.AA25138@MIT.EDU> > Any of you American nutters ;-) ever heard the following > English dj's and what do you think of them : > Carl Cox > Top Buzz > Micky Finn > LTJ Bukem > DJ SS > Justin Robertson > Grooverider Grooverider and Mickey Finn are the best of these DJs imho... but what about DJ Sy, Swan-E, Randall, and Dr S Gachet?? > My fav has to be Carl Cox - "Fatty Carlos, the 3 deck > wizard" > Ciao! sounds like you should join the breaks list send mail to 'majordomo@xmission.com' with 'subscribe breaks' as the body of the message, no subject needed > Justin F. > (All the way from Ireland, begorah! :-) -casper ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 15:52:06 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Some tings!! Hey things are looking up here. First...... FREENET! I just got the latest copy of In Pittsburgh and it says that come October Pittsburgh will be getting a Free-Net like Cleveland, Cincinatti and Akron already have. What this will allow is free Internet access to all. If you have a home computer and modem you can call in or if you don't have a computer at all you can go to any Carnegie Library and access Freenet. They will be providing Email, Telnet and FTP (with a small amount of disk space but you get what you pay for.) I had been wonder when Pittsburgh was gonna get a freenet for a year now, looks like it's gonna happen. DAZE - Well what can I say. It's only a week away!!!!!!Weeee hooooooo!!!!!! This free party in Schenely Park is gonna be WICKED!! As some on Ne-raves said, "All parties should be outside". It's true. And this is free from 1pm-9pm (after party site anyone?). I predict a good vibe throughout. Bring your frisbees and playthings (I'm bringing my boomerang! Hope there's enough space.) MORPH-1/Octane In case you missed the posts about it or didn't call the voice-mails (shame on you!) Morph-1 is going to be an OUTDOOR event at a place with very wide open spaces. Yes it's true, Morph-1 has been moved to August 6th. You say, "Hey, that is going to be the same night as Octane being thrown by F.U.E.L"? Well you'd be have right. As I hear it from Joel of Millineum they have been talking to F.U.E.L and it looks like they are going to merge the parties into Morph-1. What does this mean to us? Well it looks like what was already being planned as two MASSIVE parties are going to onebecome GIGANTIC rave like we have never seen in this area. I don't have ALL the details yet (wait for the flyer which will be out next week ;) but I do have some Amazing Facts: Amazing Fact #1: SCOTT HENRY IS DEFINATELY GONNA PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing Fact #2: Remmeber DJ Controlled Weirdness from London? The guy who Joel used to spin with when the scene first started here? WELL HE'S GONNA PLAY!!!!!!!!! Amazing Fact #3: Not only will PAWN be doing lasers and lights but EYEGASM is also bringing a full array of tripped out lighting. TASTY! There are even going to be Projection Screens! Amazing Fact #4: The sound is going to be using the sound system you already know and love, PLUS the sound system of the guy who did the sound for Philly's End of the World rave which is gonna be trucked in.. This man is INSANE, he's building two new Bass Bins just for this party, tuned to go down to 5HZ Amazing Fact #5: EVERY<*> (and do mean EVERY) Pittsburgh DJ is going to spin sometime during the 12-15 hour event (Yes it will go the full 12 hours and possibly up to 15!). This will even include some DJ's you wouldn't expect or who you haven't heard in awhile People who kinda left the scene for a bit but are back for THIS party. 1.8.7 will also be doing a live PA. Hopefully with MC Mikebee. (*) Note: as of this writing dieselBoy has not yet been confirmed but it is hoped that Millineum will book him too. Amazing Fact #6: African Tribal Drummers and a Drum Circle. Remmember those guys who you used to hear across the street fromTurboZen, drumming it up like mad EVEN on like 90 degree days? Well I'm not sure but I think these are the guys Joel mentions on the voice-mail. This oughta be vibey. Bring percussion instruments to play along and start your own drum circles! Amazing Fact #7: Art Installations - What do you think? Triped out Art to explore.... Amazing Fact #8: Possiblity of a non techno type band in a second sound area. Not gonna say who just yet but they are "rave friendly". Amazing Fact #9: The actual space is one of the best I've ever heard suggested, almost up there with the paintball arena Algorhythm 2 was in. Only this is outside on a HUGE piece of land and well....I'll keep my mouth shut. Amazing Fact #10: The turnout of this event could very possibly break all records to date. There is a very real possibility of us break the 2,000 mark. Well as you can tell I'm hyped up on this. For once people are cooperating and the scene is growing in a positive direction. Big Up to The FOOD Group, F.U.E.L and of course Millineum Productions. You Clevelanders would do well to come down too. I neglected to mention your Scott Forbush is also going to play. (Scott Henry, Scott Forbush, A Rave called Scott II? :) Take care and to those going to DAZE see ya next Thursday. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94 [][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 15:54:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , The Professional Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Professional Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: ::1.8.7 writes > Amazing Fact #5: EVERY<*> (and do mean EVERY) Pittsburgh DJ is going > to spin sometime during the 12-15 hour event > dieselBoy has not yet been confirmed but it is hoped > that Millineum will book him too. hahahahahahahahaha. sounds like pittsburgh. the typical 'every dj in pittsburgh but dieselBoy'. home sweet home. > I neglected to mention > your Scott Forbush is also going to play. maybe if they keep him sober long enough he can do some real beatmatching. does millenium think that scott forbush is some kind of drawing name? ::dieselBoy ::cynical at work ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:13:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Anyone interested in a picnic at Great Falls? I was thinking about having a picnic at Great Falls (maryland side) on the 16th of July... late afternoon til dark, when the park closes.. it's beautiful out there and there's this one area I really like and it's a great spot for everyone to play in shallow water and cool off :) this is only tentative for now... if anyone is interested, please email me directly... I'm not on dcraves and I don't want neraves cluttered with one line messages of yes I'll go or no I won't. write to a1tchan@lucy.wellesley.edu it enough people are interested, then I 'll post more about it.. like a list of things needed for it so that you all can sign up to bring things ( portable grills, charcoal, food, condiments, drinks, utensils, music, frisbees, etc) I hope we can get enough people interested! tina sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:27:34 +0100 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ Wipeout Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ Wipeout Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > Amazing Fact #5: EVERY<*> (and do mean EVERY) Pittsburgh DJ is going > to spin sometime during the 12-15 hour event > (Yes it will go the full 12 hours and possibly > up to 15!). This will even include some DJ's you > wouldn't expect or who you haven't heard in awhile > People who kinda left the scene for a bit but are > back for THIS party. 1.8.7 will also be doing a live > PA. Hopefully with MC Mikebee. > (*) Note: as of this writing > dieselBoy has not yet been confirmed but it is hoped > that Millineum will book him too. > Gee, I didn't know we were playing this rave.....that's really funny. How much are we getting paid? Hype is definitely the operative word here. Wipeout 0.5 of the Techno Terrorists (w/panzer@dhp.com) Fridays 8pm - Midnite WRCT 88.3FM wipeout@dhp.com: Co-Maintainer, The DataHaven Project. 03 73 06 52 5E 7A 14 69 C1 02 27 86 2C A8 0D 72 Finger for PGP public key. More info: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:19:10 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: SOME QUESTIONS FROM Europe In-Reply-To: <199406301915.PAA06502@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, Justin Flavin wrote: > Any of you American nutters ;-) ever heard the following > English dj's and what do you think of them : > Carl Cox Well this American and many other have heard of him! > Top Buzz Saw Him on the Fantasia 92 Memories home video. Some friends of mine have some of his mix and live tapes. > Micky Finn Yep, heard of him. Heard him and he's good. > LTJ Bukem Nope sorry never heard of him. > DJ SS This guy is wicked! > Justin Robertson Never Heard of him. > Grooverider Got a live tape of him somewhere. That is is someone didn't snatch it. He's good. > > My fav has to be Carl Cox - "Fatty Carlos, the 3 deck > wizard" English DJ's are my favorites and my favorites are Jumping Jack Frost, Krome and Mr. Time, Ellis D, and Top Buzz, (caught them in Toronto, Canada last year) Dego, (Caught him in Cleveland), Cherokee, and Easy Groove (I only have them on tape. whatever happened to them?) Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][] NE BREAKS COLLECTIVE '94 [][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:23:38 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, The Professional wrote: > ::1.8.7 writes > > > Amazing Fact #5: EVERY<*> (and do mean EVERY) Pittsburgh DJ is going > > to spin sometime during the 12-15 hour event > > > dieselBoy has not yet been confirmed but it is hoped > > that Millineum will book him too. > > hahahahahahahahaha. > > sounds like pittsburgh. the typical 'every dj in pittsburgh but > dieselBoy'. home sweet home. When Joel called me last night he wanted to verify both your work and home phone numbers. I siad, yes indeed those are correct so hopefully (if he knows the score) you will be getting a call soon. > > I neglected to mention > > your Scott Forbush is also going to play. > > maybe if they keep him sober long enough he can do some real > beatmatching. does millenium think that scott forbush is some > kind of drawing name? I have no idea. Personally if there was gonna be a Cleveland DJ there I'd rather here Mike Filly or our boy Shaft! Joe > ::dieselBoy > ::cynical at work > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:30:29 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, DJ Wipeout wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > > > Amazing Fact #5: EVERY<*> (and do mean EVERY) Pittsburgh DJ is going > > to spin sometime during the 12-15 hour event > > (Yes it will go the full 12 hours and possibly > > up to 15!). This will even include some DJ's you > > wouldn't expect or who you haven't heard in awhile > > People who kinda left the scene for a bit but are > > back for THIS party. 1.8.7 will also be doing a live > > PA. Hopefully with MC Mikebee. > > (*) Note: as of this writing > > dieselBoy has not yet been confirmed but it is hoped > > that Millineum will book him too. > > > Gee, I didn't know we were playing this rave.....that's really funny. Well I have no idea . Maybe you'll be getting a call. It's Joel's call. > How much are we getting paid? Have no idea. > > Hype is definitely the operative word here. Well I think it is going to be a good event. If people would put their bickering aside (not directed anyone in particular) amazing things might happen. Who knows? > Wipeout > 0.5 of the Techno Terrorists (w/panzer@dhp.com) > Fridays 8pm - Midnite > WRCT 88.3FM > > > wipeout@dhp.com: Co-Maintainer, The DataHaven Project. > 03 73 06 52 5E 7A 14 69 C1 02 27 86 2C A8 0D 72 > Finger for PGP public key. More info: > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:54:59 +0100 Reply-To: DJ Wipeout Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ Wipeout Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: Joe, The only point I'm making is that you are being an advertiser for this event, and you are saying that "every DJ in Pittsburgh" is going to be there. At this exact point in time, that is FALSE. If you said "Joel is going to try to get every DJ in Pittsburgh for this event" I would have no problems. It's just that you are presenting something as fact which, at least for the moment, is false, hence false advertising. The scene definitely doesn't need that. I don't want to start anything over this, in fact, it's not even your fault, since all you're doing is passing along information. So make sure you understand I'm not saying anything bad about you. :) wipeout@dhp.com: Co-Maintainer, The DataHaven Project. 03 73 06 52 5E 7A 14 69 C1 02 27 86 2C A8 0D 72 Finger for PGP public key. More info: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:40:22 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , The Professional Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Professional Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: ::1.8.7. writes > Well I think it is going to be a good event. If people would put their > bickering aside (not directed anyone in particular) amazing things might > happen. Who knows? who knows? i hope that history doesn't repeat itself. and when a message on voicemail says that 'all pittsburgh djs will be there' and apparently very few if any have been contacted, then i call it ::hype::. i agree with sean. there is only one way to do it right and thats the right way. ::dieselBoy ::running tings ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:04:12 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: 0 On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, DJ Wipeout wrote: > > Joe, > The only point I'm making is that you are being an advertiser for > this event, and you are saying that "every DJ in Pittsburgh" is going to > be there. At this exact point in time, that is FALSE. If you said "Joel > is going to try to get every DJ in Pittsburgh for this event" I would > have no problems. It's just that you are presenting something as fact > which, at least for the moment, is false, hence false advertising. actually, those were my words not Joels and you're right I should have thought that out a bit before posting it. I'm really sorry. I meant to say that he is planning on having every DJ in Pittsburgh spin not that ever DJ in Pittsburgh would definately spin. I just got caught up in the hype. Joe without a shread of crediblity left ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 17:07:47 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Some tings!! In-Reply-To: On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, The Professional wrote: > who knows? > > i hope that history doesn't repeat itself. > > and when a message on voicemail says that 'all pittsburgh djs > will be there' and apparently very few if any have been contacted, > then i call it ::hype::. i agree with sean. Ok, I conceed, I made a mistake in posting that as a a fact. It should have been FACT: "Joel is trying to get every DJ in Pittsburgh to spin." My words, my fault, my mistake. no harm done. > there is only one way to do it right and thats the right way. I agree. > ::dieselBoy > ::running tings > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 18:32:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Smellen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ellen Steuer Subject: NYC only is there a NYC only mailing list? just wondering. ellen/smileE ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 16:15:21 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: NYC only THere was for a while, and there will be again shortly. Stay tuned for details. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:26:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Mills Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Mills Subject: dj's needed oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dj's needed for DARQUE in altoona, pa on august 20th. there are to be minimal lights... i.e. black lights and strobes only. if you (or someone you know is age 65 or older :) are inarrested, contact... nodog@jam205.sip.psu.edu for more info. or... send sample tapes to... ron mack rd#1 box 266 ashville, pa 16613 or... leave name and number at... 814.941.8910 ********************************************************************* *** *************************************************************** *** *** *** *** *** *************************************************** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *************************************** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *************************** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *************** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ********* *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ********************* *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ********************************* *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ********************************************* *** *** *** *** *** *** *** ********************************************************* *** *** *** ********************************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 18:28:17 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , aaron stigberg Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: aaron stigberg Subject: Mail Order Mixtape Service <-- Read Me! 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Box 8106 | | Wilmette, IL 60091 | +---------------------+ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ We now return you to your regularly scheduled discussion. "I got beans, rice, and bread on my shelf." Aaron (CHA) sti3@midway.uchicago.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 19:06:42 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: cosmic baby live in NYC In-Reply-To: <9406301416.AA16498@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "hydrogen.glow" at Jun 30, 94 10:11 am Just came back from Groove and got the flyer..... Cosmic baby Performing Songs from his new "concept album" "Thinking About Myself" And his new single "Loops of Infinity" Thursday July 14th, 1994 Doors Open : 10PM - 4AM Location: THE BANK 225 E. Houston. St. Corner of Essex (Ave A) NYC DJ's: Keoki & Josh Wink For your Trance Dancing Cosmic will be on stage at midnight Performing a full live set Tickets: $7 w/ flyer; $10 at the door Arrive early for special visuals ...no advance tix NEd!(Snappleboy) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 20:37:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: re hi and all that In-Reply-To: <199406291705.NAA24864@holmes.umd.edu> hey laura--- my name is marc and i grew up in new hampshire. i got a chance to read your 'how to dj' post in some bbs my hacker friend turned up. we read it and thought it had a lot of merit and even learned a couple things ourselves. i was glad it was in there for people. i just wanted to introduce myself and say that i might meet you someday because i'm moving to manhattan next week and will still be on ne-raves to read your posts. i wish you luck. marc via rachelw@christa.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 20:57:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: nyc In-Reply-To: <199406292222.SAA28816@holmes.umd.edu> hi terence--- i'm not responding to the NASA/Foundation discussion but wanted to say hello and ask if you got our zines in the mail. i mailed them right after you mailed us an inquiry and the next week i got you donation. thanks for your interest and help. we sent two copies. did you get 'em? if not, we can fix that so just let us know. i'm moving to manhattan next friday in time for 'evergreen' so we'll be able to meet very soon. i'd love to get a copy of foundation by your roomate. please let us know what we have to do to get some. i had phone numbers for you but the only one left is the foundation line. i'll keep trying but some info for me next week will be: marc snow 418 e 9th st apt 1a new york, ny 10009 212 353 2002 until next time, take care and also let us know if you want issue two out by next wednesday. it's huge. :] :] :] marc ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 21:23:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: tapes, india, affordable space travel In-Reply-To: <199406300139.VAA29845@holmes.umd.edu> hmm...i'm not sure why the hell no one has gone back to the moon. but with all these secret 'military/s.d.i.' missions the shuttles had been pulling until clinton stopped or slowed things [i guess], is it possible that some of the mission members did not come back? secret payloads of landing equipment? missions going to establish safe civilian orbits, landing zones, dwelling areas. i'd like to hear about the man and the sea. we have a fanzine of large proportions that you've never heard of unfortunately but we'd like to see your story within the larger second issue out next wednesday. our deadline is monday so everyone's time is short. i'd also like to swap some tapes with you. i have tapes from the midwest from dj's esp/woody mcbride, jedediah the messiah [drop bass network], apollo [minneapolis], mr bill [milwaukee]. i can tell you how they are/what they are if interested. i'm sharing an account with rachel [to clear up the confusion] take care, marc via rachelw@christa.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 21:25:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dougie Fresh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dougie Fresh Organization: The American University Subject: MGP3/Transfused Take Off!! hey everyone! well after checking out the sound and all today and seeing the site we plan to use this sunday night i can say im really starting to get excited about this!! woo woo! :s8)= but anyways i was interested in finding out which people on the net think they will be able to make it out to the party this sunday night July 3rd? If you are going to come down please leave a message so i know you will be here. Also if you need crash space or such let me know! peace and see you sunday __________________ There is a curious paradox thay no one can explain. Who understands the reaping of the grain? Who understands why Spring is born out of Winter's laboring pain? Or why we all must die a bit before we grow again. El Gallo - "The Fantasticks" _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ ___________________ ___ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______feel the music soft and mellow__ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ ____________________________ doug )( dz5401a@american.edu - dj d'phresh rockin da tables dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:04:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: SOME QUESTIONS FROM Europe In-Reply-To: <199406301915.PAA06502@holmes.umd.edu> > Any of you American nutters ;-) ever heard the following > English dj's and what do you think of them : > > Carl Cox > My fav has to be Carl Cox - "Fatty Carlos, the 3 deck > wizard" hell, yes. i mean, i haven't unfortunately heard of any of the dj's you listed with the exception of carl cox. i bought a record by lenny dee from here in the u.s.a. and carl cox does a remix. it is really messed as far as all over the place technique. some crazy hard beats here, into some crushing breaks there...it's all rather great and i'm glad you mentioned him because everyone over here in the northeast are nutters. :]:]:] ha ha! i do have a tape of colin faver from november 92 with the same mixture of hard 4/4 beats and breakbeat flava. do a lot of uk dj's do this? it's rare for u.s. jocks to do it [but i like it]. i'm an amateur dj and recently i've been picking up dark breaks. i've decided to come out of hiding and stop kidding myself that breaks 'weren't there' or whatever i was thinking. ?!?!@ do you spin too? produce? i've read some posts of yours already and find it refreshing that someone knows what the hell is going on musically. you've probably already seen the furious fashion debates and skateboard history trivia that gets passed around here. geez... my friend matt and i just published a large fanzine dedicated to north american techno with the second issue due next week. if you're interested, we can get some to you if you could send some event flyers from your area. we'd love that. we can do the same from here and include them in the same package. just to get your interest, issue one has interviews with ritchie hawtin/plastikman, dj adam x [brooklyn, ny], heather heart [bklyn], jimmy crash [bklyn], dj hyperactive [chicago], sleepy c [ohio trance], dimtri [tresor, germany], tranquility bass [los angeles], and jethorx [drop bass network-milwaukee]. i don't know what kind of techno you prefer but you might like it. let us know. take care. mark passive via rachelw@christa.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:20:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: info requested (lisa lee et al.)/mgp3 it really mad me smile seeing so many ppl write me back with letters of concern and interest regardgin what happened to our friends... heres the complete info.. lisa lee buffy charnock arianne DeRouville c/o georgia lee 909 karenwald lane 29-f hollandale ln 1831 5th ave schenectady ny 12309-6415 clifton pk ny, 12065 po box 234 518.393.5216 518.371.6807 troy ny 12180 518.272.3653 there it is...theres a very good chance ill be at mgp3..i hope to see all you loving, caring peopel there...:) take care. peace, hossam -- vrave:sphinx *its all about the vibe* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:35:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield Subject: Re: Mail Order Mixtape Service <-- Read Me! In-Reply-To: <199406302330.TAA09045@holmes.umd.edu> hey aaron--- we've never met but i've read c.h.a. fanzine from when we went to milwaukee for a d.b.n. party last march. i'm in touch with sheri hendrickson and have read your posts from the breaks list. i'm an amateur dj on the e-coast moving to nyc next week. i've spun hard 4/4 beat anything for two years but got to see dj soulslinger spin some nuts darkside last october in manhattan. sheri says you're pretty into jungle and i'm not that well-read on styles in breakbeat but i'd like to get some more if you want to suggest anything. today i got a 10" record from system 4/faction 7 [?] [blue sleeve, orange label] thought was bad ass. i have some holy ghost inc & some zero zero that'll indicate how lacking my knowledge is. can you run any hints as far as labels or must-have dark records? i'm not into pianos or vocals but experimental, tranced, fast, scary things do it. one post i read of your looked good about synthetic records uk. i'm not sure if i remembered that right but i've poked around. who carries hard breaks with mail order? i got no clue. hoping you can help, marc snow via rachelw@christa.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:55:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jonathan Hayes Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jonathan Hayes Subject: Re: tapes, india, affordable space travel In-Reply-To: <199406300324.XAA01084@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, danFREELove wrote: > I think you may be referring to the scene that was going on out in Goa in > India. This wasn't a spontaneous group of ravers, but a continuation of > some bizarre gathering trend that just happened to be quite natural for > ravers. From my understanding alot of the European ravers would head out > there and party, and a great vibe was going on. I haven't heard much > about it lately, but I have heard (now entering Rumourville) that there has > been trouble in that paradise. Something about the authorities. I have > also heard that lots of them just up and relocated to Australia. > > Dan > I was in Thailand in March. There is a big full moon rave scene on the tropic island paradise (no distortion here) of Ko Pangan off the Gulf of Thailand. Supposedly two days of non-stop rave each full moon (I wasn't there for the full moon, alas, but it would be a great place to *wait* for the full moon to arrive). My first posting on this Net - hope I haven't breached etiquette by trimming off Dan's graphic... jaze ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:51:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: SOME QUESTIONS FROM Europe In-Reply-To: <199407010204.WAA10068@holmes.umd.edu> Twas written on June 30th, 1994... >DATE: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 22:04:30 -0400 >FROM: Rachel J Wakefield >i've read some posts of yours already and find it refreshing that someone >knows what the hell is going on musically. you've probably already seen >the furious fashion debates and skateboard history trivia that gets >passed around here. geez... I know this was probably meant to be seen as private mail, but since it made it to the list, I figured I'd comment on it. The above written comments appear to be a disservice to your fellow list members, the implication being that we do not know what the hell is going on musically. This should be an interesting fact to the DJs, musicians, record store owners, and promoters on the list. Besides a little side debate on 'fashion and skateboard history' was interesting. Perhaps a discussion of fashion might be the topic for an article in your zine. Virtually yours, Bob "defending the rights" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 23:19:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: SOME QUESTIONS FROM Europe In-Reply-To: <199407010303.XAA10758@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 30 Jun 1994, Bob Baxter wrote: > Twas written on June 30th, 1994... > > >i've read some posts of yours already and find it refreshing that someone > >knows what the hell is going on musically. you've probably already seen > >the furious fashion debates and skateboard history trivia that gets > >passed around here. geez... > > The above written comments appear to be a disservice to your fellow list > members, the implication being that we do not know what the hell is > going on musically. This should be an interesting fact to the DJs, > musicians, record store owners, and promoters on the list. Besides a > little side debate on 'fashion and skateboard history' was interesting. And let's not forget about the other writers, editors and publishers on NE Raves. Slurp! will be out, nationally, at the end of July/beginning of August. Yes, it will have fashion in it, and piercing, and scene reports, and funny stories, and (most of all) MUSIC! Remember, the scene isn't just about one aspect (music), but the full history and culture built up around us getting together to dance and be friends. So, little talks on other subjects are part of the brew here on NE Raves. That said I have to say that too much of off the topic discussion (which came first, phat sk8r clothes or phat raver clothes, et al.) is discouraged. One line posts, massive discourses on clipper chips, responses that should go directly to the poster, marijuana rally information (though I have been tempted), and other off topic stuff should be kept to an absolute minimum or, better yet, kept to the proper forums (there are plenty of them on the net). Dan ,._-_ < \, \\/\ _-_ _____ anarchy@eng.umd.edu ~~~~~---____ Peace || /-|| || | || \\ _+--= __ Love || (( || || | ||/ _ _ ~~ = Unity \\, \/\\ \\/ \\,/ ~~~~~ | danFREELove Respect ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 23:36:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Subject: Free Croutons! To whom it may concern: The New and Improved Squishy Designs team has made it's first attack. This time our target was an 'innocent' raver by the name of Hossam :) The jpeg is called 'hossam_thinks_hes_a_camel.jpg' and can be found at: amt.mit.edu /pub/jshiple/hossam_thinks_hes_a_camel.jpg Do whatever you want with it, we sure did ;) (That's a smiley face winking at YOU by the way) KEEP THE BIVE ALIBE! KEEP THE FIVE ALIVE! ..... YOU KNOW WHAT WE MEAN! -John & Chris & John .-'~~~-. .'o oOOOo`. :~~~-.oOoHA o`. --------------------------- `. \ ~-. NoOOo. ----------------------------- To find out more about the an `.; / ~.DIOO: d mail to helpeenon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any .' ;-- `.o.' this message wiel be anonymized, and we think we're peoplebe ,' ; ~~--'~ matically. You eeee been warned. Please report any problems, ; ; priate use etc. to admie@aeon.penet.fi. _\\;_\\//_________ ee ==------==========