From LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU Mon Aug 8 18:02:21 1994 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 1994 20:03:02 -0400 From: BITNET list server at UMDD To: danarchy@HYPERREAL.COM Subject: File: "NE-RAVES LOG9404" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:04:10 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djagh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Hughes Subject: Re: April Birthday-O-Matic Hey what about me??? My birthday is 04-18-64!!!! Peace, DJ AGH :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:34:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PUNJAB Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PUNJAB Subject: Re: Friday April 29th, 1994 thanx for ur reply i have tried once again let me wait and see see ya later anyway - sr ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 00:54:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: PLEASUREDOME defended... victory To all concerned: It kind of sucks to have to go on the defensive, but here goes.... 1. Somebody complained that the event is to take place at a cheezy club called Bonkers. Our original intent was to use Bonkers as one of the rooms and use the adjoining Tradesmart building as the main room. The owners of the building, a commercial real estate firm in DC, were ,quite unbeleviably, really behind the event. They promissed us that all the legalities were taken care of... just sign on the dotted line and give us the $$$$. The building is legally zoned for concert usage, but, as we found out later, the alarm was not high tech enough, it had to be computer voice attenuated and the present system was manual. In any event, from the beginning of this project, we placed deposits on two other venues which are just as nice and quite frankly, have more of an underground feel anyway. We wanted to be protected just in case anything should happen, including fire or natural disaster, however unlikely that may seem. Alot of good hearted people have worked very hard, spent alot of time and spent all that they have, and more, to see this event take place (can you hear violins....) We will not, however release the location of the venue until Friday afternoon - that was the way events were hed in the past and that is the way this one will be held. If you are running a bus trip, please either call one of the info lines and leave your phone number. Rob will call you back with instructions. 2. James Christian did indeed book himself at another event in NY. He was offered twice the price that he is being payed for PD, but he has agreed that since he is under contract and the deposit has been paid, he will play here. 3. Dmitry also booked himself in South Carolina on the same night, but this is no problem, since he will be flying directly from there to play an early morning set. He was under contract to play PD months ago, well before he booked himself in SC. 4. James and Dmitry are Howard Shaffer DJ's and I think the confusion arose because of the original planning of the event. The date kept changing and the DJ's were confused and did not keep in contact with Howard. 5. I will not be checking mail anymore under this address. Its too time consuming and expensive. If anybody needs to get in contact, send mail to vero@wam.umd.edu, and we'll get back to you within the day. It's alot easier and faster to flip through mail on the unix system that this AOL deal. 6. Also, if someone will drop a note to the above address regarding the location of the picnic, we will try to get the UK DJ's there for a meet and greet type of thing. They won't be arriving untill late in the afternoon, so expect us to show up at around 5pm on Saturday. 7. Thanks, and don't let the nay-sayers get the upper hand. If this is a net-trial, we plead innocent!!! Cheers. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 03:38:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: New York City update Bliss is being held weekly at Studio Studio: 608 West 26 St., between 11 & 12 avenues $10 with invite before 12, $13 after 12. starts at 10 pm, ends at 8 am. the sound system is rather nice. apparently they have part of the original paradise garage sound setup! confirmed DJs for this Friday are: King Britt of Digable Planets, Scott Henry from DC, James Christian & Guy DMC upstairs spinning hip hop & funk are jo jo & jazzy nice after hours DJs: joeski & happy lasers, visuals, intelligent lighting & smart bar [I don't get the names for these people because the recording is a bit fast but I can say that they all do a great job!] Swirl is not happening as a club anymore but as an ever moving renegade party. enjoy! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 07:30:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: Documentary about our community PLUR is a forthcoming documentary about the rave/house community. It focuses on every aspect of the community and the people who have made it a central part of their lives for the past few years. The theme of this documentary is look at the rave/house community in 1994. The primary audience is the community itself. We intended to create an introspective documentary. Our goal is to give an accurate description of the positive contributions our community has made to society. The following is list of activities that people are doing that define the community. Musicians Computer nets DJs Graphic Artists who make the flyers The people who treasure their flyer collections Photographers Event promoters Scene promoters People who organize bus rides to events. People who organize charitable events Video Artists Record store owners Clothing designers 'Zine publishers Smart drinks This documentary is being produced by Rob Campanell and Todd Porter Boedeker. Rob will cover the east coast (DC, Balt. Philly, NYC) and Todd will cover the San Francisco area. We intend to conduct interviews from April through May. Expected completion date is September 1994. We intend to submit the documentary for broadcast on U Network, a national network of college television stations. Both Rob and Todd have been involved with programs on U Network. Rob is the producer of "Cyberia"; Todd has been the host of "Video Underground". They have also produced and directed music videos for techno acts Paperboy 2000 and Axon. We would like your support for this project. We have been involved in the community since it's early days here in the U.S. We believe it's special and feel there is a need to present a sincere video document about the community. Our goal is to portray the rave/house community that we know, in the best way that we can, in 28 minutes. It might not be as complete as some people would like, but we hope it will be sincere and honest. Rob Campanell Todd Porter Boedeker P.S. A limited quanity of video will be available for purchase. At this point, we are focusing our efforts on getting the project completed. We will post information on how to obtain a copy of the video at a later date. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:38:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Burney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Burney Subject: a little analog story.. my stomach rumbled and i said, 'what the hell' hmm...must be time to eat i went to taco bell i checked out the menu 'now what looks good to me' i ordered my food it came to 303 i punched up the bass cuz plastikman is live reached for duckets and flipped her 505 got my goods i just couldnt wait to get to the crib and 808 :) hee ... goldenboy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 12:13:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jason Frantz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Frantz Subject: Add Add me to the list. frantz@oyster.smcm.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 12:32:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: Documentary about our community In-Reply-To: <9404011349.AA45887@acs.bu.edu>; from "Robert N. Campanell" at Apr 1, 94 7:30 am i think you forgot about the people who *make* the music. just a thought.....they are pert of the scene too. sprockett (i know this went to the whole list...i wanted it to :P heh heh ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 12:36:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: apologies for my last post In-Reply-To: <9404011349.AA45887@acs.bu.edu>; from "Robert N. Campanell" at Apr 1, 94 7:30 am it was pointed out to me that the first thing on the list was: "musicians". guess my scroll screwed me up. *insert foot into mouth* sorry for my quick rashness. i apologise for wasting the bandwidth again. thanks tho for hearing me out. sprockett *small voice* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 13:15:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: =ibrium hey all,:) peppermint pattie here again, just wanted to let all of you know that miss treat and i will be setting up again this weekend at equillibrium. so, stop by, get your free snoKone and introduce yourslef!:) we love meeting all of you:) hope to see you there!:) keep the vibe alive:) peaz out...peppermint pattie:) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:02:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Me three me three.... my B-day is 04.07.75!!!!!! Just in time for Escape Velocity! :) Cheli------->B-girl ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:29:45 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Me three In-Reply-To: <9404011920.AA22769@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU" at Apr 1, 94 2:02 pm > > me three.... > > my B-day is 04.07.75!!!!!! > > Just in time for Escape Velocity! :) > > Cheli------->B-girl > HAPPY B-DAY B-GIRL!!!!!!!!! R U going to Escape Velocity....IF SO SEE YA THERE!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:53:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: try this once more.....:) From: IN%"postmaster@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU" "PMDF Mail Server" 1-APR-1994 14:51:58.45 To: IN%"postmaster@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU", IN%"CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU" CC: Subj: Undeliverable mail: SMTP delivery failure Return-path: Received: from VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU by VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU (PMDF #3029 ) id <01HANXOYMPHS8ZFZT4@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU>; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:50:06 EST Date: 01 Apr 1994 14:50:06 -0500 (EST) From: PMDF Mail Server Subject: Undeliverable mail: SMTP delivery failure To: postmaster@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU, CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Message-id: <01HANXOYMPHU8ZFZT4@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU> X-Envelope-to: CMW4319, SYSMIKE MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="Boundary (ID qluYrT/8a9lRCSEJ3oRYcQ)" Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT --Boundary (ID qluYrT/8a9lRCSEJ3oRYcQ) The message could not be delivered to: Addressee: neraves@umdd.umd.edu Remote system's reason for rejecting: User 'neraves' Unknown --Boundary (ID qluYrT/8a9lRCSEJ3oRYcQ) Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822 Received: from VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU by VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU (PMDF #3029 ) id <01HANXJM62JO8ZG2O3@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU>; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:47:39 EST Date: 01 Apr 1994 14:47:39 -0500 (EST) From: CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: thanks snapple boy!! To: neraves@umdd.umd.edu Message-id: <01HANXJM62JQ8ZG2O3@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU> X-Envelope-to: neraves@umdd.umd.edu X-VMS-To: IN%"neraves@umdd.umd.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Yes, I most certainly am going ot Escape Velocity.......I'm sure I will see you and half of vraves there...... B-girl may just wet herself yet from excitement: *smmmooooooccccchhhhhhh* P.S. thanks for the Happy B-day wish!!! :) --Boundary (ID qluYrT/8a9lRCSEJ3oRYcQ)-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:22:52 -0500 Reply-To: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Pandemonium is now aria In-Reply-To: <9404011447.tn331456@aol.com> Ok pandemonium has changed their name...Remember this is the party in North Carolina on August the 27th. The new and improved name is ARIA. I also found out yesterday that they have an e-mail address that you can write them if you are interested in talking to them. the e-mail address is: wakko6690@aol.com Definately drop Dave a line if you have any questions about the party. I know that they would be eager to hear from you :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug *also if someone is on se-raves that gets this can you please forward it to the list...I can not seem to find the address :) Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 16:38:42 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Documentary about our community In-Reply-To: <199404011733.MAA00166@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 1 Apr 1994, Kristopher Setchfield wrote: > i think you forgot about the people who *make* the music. > just a thought.....they are pert of the scene too. > > sprockett > (i know this went to the whole list...i wanted it to :P > heh heh I think this would fall under Musicians and DJ's. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:00:49 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ilithien Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ilithien Subject: Re: Me three In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 1 Apr 1994 14:02:16 -0500 happy april fools everyone!!!!! :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:39:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rob Hwang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rob Hwang Subject: Re: jungle diversityt In-Reply-To: <199404010345.WAA26364@holmes.umd.edu> from "Joe LeSesne" at Mar 31, 94 12:44:52 pm > > > > This might be more because of the demographics of Toronto than anything > > else. Toronto's a fairly multicultural city, so I think that at most > > raves in this area there would be a good cross section of people. > > > > Rob > This is true but it can also be said of places like New York, Washington, > DC and Baltimore. > JOe > Well, I can only extrapolate from a brief visit to Washington, hearsay, and visits to other American cities (Detroit, Seattle, LA), but I think that in Toronto there's more mixing among cultures. I honestly think that for just about any type of rave in Toronto, you'd see a pretty good mix of people... Heck, you can see it even when you walk down Yonge Street in downtown Toronto... Rob ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:11:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: *sniff* bye everyone temporarily Hi and bye everyone..... As of tomorrow early afternoonish I am off to see the wizard in Charlotte, NC of all places. I will be living at my parents house temporarily until this summer when the waiting lists die down and I can get myself into an apartment. (this is going to be really weird..home again). But unfortunately, I won't have any sort of net access. The closest computer lab is over an hours dirve from my house(across town) and I have no computer or modem to call my own...But I am working on that part and I will hopefully be on again in a couple of months giveor take a few days. (Thanks to a certain twosome known as Derek and Jason-->m1) So until then you can keep in touch with me at: Cheli (B-girl) Walter 1420 Helms Shortcut Rd. Monroe, NC 28112 (704) 289.9838<---Just remember that this is my parents' house too please!! Also, I will be more than likely going to Escape Velocity on the 9th in KY. So I'm more than sure that I will catch a few of you there finally!! (I still may just wet myself yet hehehehehehe:) so tata for now......I'll miss you guys/girls Cheli------------------------------------>B-girl P.S. and how could I forget!! *sssSSSSSSSSMMMMMMMMmmmmmMMMMMOOOOOOooooooOOOOOOOOCCCCCCCcCCCCHHHHHHHHes* to everyone!! *sniff*sniff*sniff*sniff*snarf*sniff*sniff*sniff*sniff*sniff*sniff*sniff*sniff* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 20:44:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: *sniff* bye everyone temporarily hope to see you soon cheli! online and as well in person - it looks like some fr iends and i may be at expac er, escape velocity as well! hope to see you there! allison ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 20:53:37 -0500 Reply-To: Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: NE Corridore Caravan P-dome ok, there seems to be enough support to do this. Not just a car, not just a van, a caravan- a collective of at least one van and cars that will drive down together. it will start at least as far north as Providence,R.I. although I encourage any Boston people and such to join in to . If you have a car and have an extra seat.u will get $$$/ discounts. If you have any resource whatsoever. If you have nothing at all except about $35 and need both a ride and an addmission. Everyone who participates will have it become worthwhile. Providence Somewhere in CT NYC maybe avoid NYC because of the tolls New Brunswick/ Princeton,NJ Philadelphia? it's flexible... keep up to date by calling 401-751-2168 Paul Paul I'll be getting back to people Wednesday OK, need a ride have a ride. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 21:57:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Fiend <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: New York City update yo will, im gonna be at that shit friday night, bliss. look for me if your gonna be around.. the fiend ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 22:01:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: live In-Reply-To: <199403301925.OAA13201@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Susan R. Kameny wrote: > moby killed the vibe (well he is memorex so he may not count as a live act) I think the concensus reached on his live acts was that he was using some prerecorded dat stuff (for while the keyboards were loading) and mainly programmed stuff off his keyboards, with some amount of live stuff tossed in for flavor. So, while he wasn't fully live he was doing about as much live as a person really could be doing. > dub tribe is amazing (they preform in chillout rooms) I have only seen them twice, but both times it was in the 'main' room. At Essence 3 in NY they performed right next to the main DJ area (very good performance) and at Buzz here in DC they were upstairs where the space is more intimate but the DJs are better (IMHO) and the most dancing goes on. > i think that anything live that is harder than ambient, makes it very > difficult to deal with at a rave...is one suppose to stop and watch them > play, is one supose to ignore all the ruckus on stage...??? I like harder live acts as much as I like harder DJs. I mean, for the most part I ignore the live acts as they play so I can dance, just as I don't pay attention to the DJs as I dance. I mean, it's a rave, not a rock concert. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 22:47:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: info Primal, 611, and Buzz present: A Rave Called Scott DJs: Scott Hardkiss (SanFran) Scott Richmond (Polaris) Scott Henry (Buzz) ..and these Non-Scotts: Robbie Hardkiss (SanFran) Nigel Richards (Horizon) other Scotts and Non-Scotts to be announced. info: 215.292.4666 212.696.8938 _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:01:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Pleasure Dome (sigh...yes again) In-Reply-To: <199403302302.SAA15571@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Steve Hormell wrote: > GLEN BURNIE, MD. (Isn't this the place that "Rave Task > Force" is active??) Nope, the Rave Task Force is in Prince Georges County which is down where I live, Glen Burnie is in Anne Arundel (I think?). Definately not in PG County, though. > At least TWO big DJ's will not be preforming, King Britt > (who is confirmed for Escape Velocity that night in > Lexington, KY) and Dmitry (who is booked for a party in > SC) I am not going for the names, but to support my tribe. Even though the promoters history is dubious, I know something will happen and that it will be the first time that anyone in this area has heavily recruited from the great PAs and DJs here on the net. Ultraworld certainly never has, and they are the only comparable group (in terms of size of the parties). I have yet to see 1.8.7 in concert and nothing is going to stop me now. > Now I've watched the way other people have been attacked for > talking bad about this party, just because net ravers are involved. > But let me say this in my defense:Just because there are net-ravers > spinning/appearing/promoting/smart barring at an event, dosen't > mean that the party will be fine!!! Right, but I have seen the net ravers come through and make a nasty scene pretty damned fun. Does anyone else remember Denial up in NY? Oh, it was insane, this promoter was an idiot. We helped tap a streetlight that brought the power in, SLiP brought the tables, the lights were provided by us (we went out to gather the wood from the forest around the clearing the party was in), and the money hungry promoter collected cash from other people who showed up to this sad event. I mean, this party was SUCH a cruel joke. But it was okay, because Ed and Laura were spinning, NE Ravers were gathered around these camp fires talking, their was almost no dancing, but it was one of the best parties I ever went to. See, the parties aren't about the motivations of the promoters, their histories, or the incredible spaces they provide. They are about your friends, they are about the music, they are about alot of things. The promoters simply provide the focus and capital, you bring the vibe. > PS: I would like to see these contracts for the UK DJ's. And the > permits for the space. I have seen them. I held them in my hand. I read them. I am no lawyer (worked as a legal secretary once, though), but they looked legit to me. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:26:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: *sniff* bye everyone temporarily fyi, you can pick up an internal fax/modem for $20 replete with software that will work on all at's (ibm clones). the box claims you need 2M of RAM and a 386, but that's just to run the *cute* windows software that comes with it. i put it in our 286 shit-box at home and it runs well albeit with other communications software--sort of stuff you can get from friends. dj haZard ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:34:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: A new thread.. In-Reply-To: <199403301936.OAA13395@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > I think the only way we will get it is if we start a scene seperate from > (but loosely tied to) what is now called the u.s rave scene and start by > throwing small underground events in which a *diverse* crowd is invited. You know, I really like this idea. Lately, when I go to raves I see alot of great things, but I do also see some things I don't like so much. One of the things I don't see is diversity. I mean, I can only take so much of the beautiful people who are doing the beautiful drugs and listening to the beautiful (gotta have) house (tm) music before I start to wonder how incredible the scene is. What if we were to throw a party that wasn't advertised as a rave or an underground, that didn't put out flyers that went to the techno music store or get advertised in the usual venues, but that offered house, breaks, hardcore, trance and such (in a real diverse layout, not with any style predominating)? I mean, instead of sending these fliers out to ravers, we were to advertise in go-go clubs (well, that's a DC thing I guess), regular (non-techno) dance clubs, country and western line dancing clubs (for that flavor), colleges, coffee houses, co-ops, boy scout meetings (I am not kidding), and other youth and active adults venues? I am thinking we should extrapolate from Joe's idea and see what happens. My purpose here is just to present possibilities and see what might be. Here is the format, please add your comments (being as specific as possible) as I have added mine and we will see what comes of it: What you like about raves: Hanging out with friends Dancing Talking to friends Drugs What you don't like about raves: Excessive emphasis on drugs Too little diversity in the crowd Heavy emphasis on big name DJs Messed up sound systems Excessive emphasis on light show and sound bells and whistles Who would be interested in the unrave: Coffee Houses patrons Standard dance clubs patrons Country And Western Dance clubs patrons College Students Ravers "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 09:57:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: underground In-Reply-To: <199403312148.QAA24382@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, flu'id (floo'-) wrote: > On Thu, 31 Mar 1994, Ed Horch wrote: > > > Underground = renegade, minimal promotion, minimal frills, maximum vibe. > > Also cf. "Temporary Autonomous Zones" > > Exactly. Want some examples? Back to Basics in brooklyn, our Mobile > Grooves Possee in DC, the Full Moon Rave crew in San Francisco, and the > shortlived NewJersey FMR crew. These have been some of the best i've ever > been to.. On that note.. There should be a Sundial coming out in the next few weeks and that will have minimal production. Just some people showing up with turntables, some DJs and a few people enjoing the groove. Hope the cops don't show up. And I think Doug is going to put together another one of his esteemable Sunshine parties in a little bit. So keep a lookout, the DC area will have a couple underground happening soon. Oh, and before I forget, JGoldman of MUSE is doing an underground tonight here in DC. Boy, I like all these simple events going on. :) Dan Now when is the next Delta party? "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 10:12:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: A rave called Scott (was: info) Somebody wrote to me saying "funny post". This wasn't an April Fools kids, I picked up the flyer yesterday at 611. Sorry for the confusion. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 12:50:03 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: *sniff* bye everyone temporarily In-Reply-To: <9404020012.AA13948@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU" at Apr 1, 94 7:11 pm BYe BYe Cheli........BUT YOU"D BETTER BE AT ESCAPE VELOCITY!!!!! I'll be there with another two cases of Snapple for the net crew!!!!! PLUR ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:01:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: underground parties i like this thread, even tho the place id like to see underground parties start is here in georgia! keep talking - im soaking up inspiration like mad! allison ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 13:32:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Butcher Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Butcher Subject: * tape * My band has tapes available now... we do mostly synth music- so I thought you all might want to check it out! We're not selling them for profit.. just the cost of the tape, envelope, and shipping. The album is actually our third- and we like this one a lot. It's about 50 minutes long and has more than one type of music... there's some ambient, some tribal, some breakbeat... but we don't think you can classify the music into those categories.... aww well I can't explain it! If you want one (I want you to have one!), either email me about the details or send $3 to: Orbitrecords Box 4656 5115 Margaret Morrison St. Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890 In any case, email me so I know how many tapes to make! THANKS! (bit) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Butcher tb303+@cmu.edu email me for my PGP key ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:40:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Last Chance before the Dance - Badges Okay, the exact information is covered in other posts so I am not going to repeat it now. If you are interested in getting badges at Pleasure Dome and will definately be there (or can guarantee to have the cash there) please let me know now. Sorry to be adamant about the cash, but I am unemployed and every missed badge is money for food. I am going to go in on Tuesday for a run of the badges and I need to know before then if you want them. I have about 5 orders already, and I just want to make sure I get these things out to people. If you want the information on the badges, mail me and I will mail back with the information on them. Dan Ps. Both NE and DC badges are available. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 15:21:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: raving in spain i *really* need help here, i am doing a report on raves/ the tekno scene in spain now.....its due on tuesday (a 5 minute oral presentation for 4th semester spanish class). i would love to discuss the muzik and dj's over there, and id love to also cover the events themselves. however, i have never been there, and desperately need someone who has been there, or is there to help me out......anyone? i was talking to someone on Vrave who is from there but is in new hampshire (?) now.....i lost oyur address. if anyone can provide any assistance i will /H you. thanks for your time. sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu 617.352.6939 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 17:17:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: New York City update At 9:57 PM 4/1/94 -0500, The Fiend wrote: >yo will, > >im gonna be at that shit friday night, bliss. >look for me if your gonna be around.. Fiend, Hey, it was nice seeing you last night, but where'd you go? I didn't even get a chance to say hello, really. Anyway, it was good to see you out. We left around 4 (kinda early, but we'd heard who we were there for and we were really worn) I don't know why other net people don't come out to this club- it definitely fits with the scene. Hope to see you out again soon! Phil ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 17:40:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Subject: 1200's ? Anyone know a good cheap place to get Technics 1200 turntables? Preferably in the Boston area.. Thanks, ian ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 16:39:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: underground/back2basics revisited: the BASSment parties (preview) hey kidz... all this talk recently about the underground has made me start to think what i could do to make the scene a bit more personal, friendly, underground, and less expensive than the big name events. so, after mulling over the idea and gathering the opinions of some people, i've decided to offer a small token of my appreciation to the underground. so here we are at a thing i'd like to call the bassment parties. my plan: rent a soundsystem and some 1200's, throw up some strobes and blacklights, get a bunch of free water, and just dance like a madman :) the location: hell, my house has a huge basement, so i might as well make good use of it! :) (bassment parties...i AM SO clever :P) all i want to do is throw some low-key events-the basics: sound and vibe. just come and dance :) it should be smooth! so, this late spring/summer i will try to get one of these parties off the ground :) my home is in the philly area, btw (southern new jersey) so its fairly easy to get to. if you're interested in maybe spinning or contributing, please email me....i look foward to hear what you all think of this... oh, by the way, did i mention that i'll probably be doing PA's at these? after all, it IS my party :) ;) support your local scene! -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 19:38:14 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Re: underground/back2basics revisited: the BASSment parties (preview) In-Reply-To: <199404022353.SAA07515@holmes.umd.edu> Well, my brother, I would be honored to lend my services to you as a DJ at your BASSment parties. I live close to you so getting there is no probs. Give me a CALL: 215-781-0234 - hOME 215-419-2484 - Pager The Original DJ from WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down in the urban jungle, D J P a n i K o f the T r i b e c a l l e d C y b e r ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 21:14:14 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Clipper Chip... This isn't rave-related, but it most definitely _is_ cybertribe related. Kinda like cybertribe "foreign policy", if you will... Peace, Terence ============================================================================= Please forward this to everyone you know... this is important! For those of you who don't know, Clipper is a proposal circulating in the government right now whereby the government will require that all methods of encrypting data (including e-mail) have a 'backdoor' of sorts so that the government will be able to decrypt and read the data. As you may have guessed, this is an infringement on your right to privacy. Below are details on a petition against Clipper, and how to sign your name to it. Please read. Electronic Petition to Oppose Clipper Please Distribute Widely On January 24, many of the nation's leading experts in cryptography and computer security wrote President Clinton and asked him to withdraw the Clipper proposal. The public response to the letter has been extremely favorable, including coverage in the New York Times and numerous computer and security trade magazines. Many people have expressed interest in adding their names to the letter. In response to these requests, CPSR is organizing an Internet petition drive to oppose the Clipper proposal. We will deliver the signed petition to the White House, complete with the names of all the people who oppose Clipper. To sign on to the letter, send a message to: Clipper.petition@cpsr.org with the message "I oppose Clipper" (no quotes) You will receive a return message confirming your vote. Please distribute this announcement so that others may also express their opposition to the Clipper proposal. CPSR is a membership-based public interest organization. For membership information, please email cpsr@cpsr.org. For more information about Clipper, please consult the CPSR Internet Library - FTP/WAIS/Gopher CPSR.ORG /cpsr/privacy/crypto/clipper ============================================ ========================= The President The White House Washington, DC 20500 Dear Mr. President: We are writing to you regarding the "Clipper" escrowed encryption proposal now under consideration by the White House. We wish to express our concern about this plan and similar technical standards that may be proposed for the nation's communications infrastructure. The current proposal was developed in secret by federal agencies primarily concerned about electronic surveillance, not privacy protection. Critical aspects of the plan remain classified and thus beyond public review. The private sector and the public have expressed nearly unanimous opposition to Clipper. In the formal request for comments conducted by the Department of Commerce last year, less than a handful of respondents supported the plan. Several hundred opposed it. If the plan goes forward, commercial firms that hope to develop new products will face extensive government obstacles. Cryptographers who wish to develop new privacy enhancing technologies will be discouraged. Citizens who anticipate that the progress of technology will enhance personal privacy will find their expectations unfulfilled. Some have proposed that Clipper be adopted on a voluntary basis and suggest that other technical approaches will remain viable. The government, however, exerts enormous influence in the marketplace, and the likelihood that competing standards would survive is small. Few in the user community believe that the proposal would be truly voluntary. The Clipper proposal should not be adopted. We believe that if this proposal and the associated standards go forward, even on a voluntary basis, privacy protection will be diminished, innovation will be slowed, government accountability will be lessened, and the openness necessary to ensure the successful development of the nation's communications infrastructure will be threatened. We respectfully ask the White House to withdraw the Clipper proposal. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 00:47:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Veronica E. Martins" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Veronica E. Martins" Subject: PLEASUREDOME 94- from the producers.. Pleasuredome 94 is rolling.... Tickets may be purchased in the following ways: 1. Advance sale from MusicNow DC or Modern Music Baltimore 2. Advance sale from Zenith Delaware 3. Tickets will be available at the venue 4. Directions to the venue will be available on the info lines and on maps which can be picked up from MusicNow and Modern Music. And for you cynics, this event is backed by Apple Lighting and Sound, one of the most reliable companies of this type on the east coast. Thanks... Remember if you need any questions asked, contact this address. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 08:37:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Pure Underground Okay, just thought I would drop a little note about this event. Excellence in Action! Wow, this was a really good party. I got their at about midnight and was at first put off by how the nice warm spring day had turned into a rather windy chilly night. But, I figured, 'It's an underground, have to expect that.' I was also greatly releived it wasn't the same site as the MGP event as their was that circus to contend with over their. The distance from the road to the site was a bit of a walk, but it really did add to the romanticism of the night. When I was walking to the site I was impressed at how loud the soundsystem was and how well insulated it was from the residential areas where we parked. I finally got to the site and was amazed how many people had already shown up, despite the chill in the air their were at least 60 people already there and more people kept coming all night long. The vibe was thick and juicy, just pure PLUR all around. I met up with John Goldman and he was tired and happy that all the little components had come together so well. Chris Bulla was spinning a nice set and people were getting into the dancing. I was just blissing on the whole scene. I only really noticed one other DJ that night and that was Suz-E Cyclones. Everything just was beautiful and the only problem of the night was around 2:30 when a cop showed up, looked at us and then left. While that didn't really stop the party (the sound did dim for a few moments, but then came right back up) alot of people started migrating out to the afterhours ('Bright') at the Chamber in DC. I missed out on that party, but I suspect if it had half the phat vibe Pure Underground had it went over well (and it was warm :) ). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 13:53:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: underground/back2bas... so, this late spring/summer i will try to get one of these parties off the ground :) my home is in the philly area, btw (southern new jersey) so its fairly easy to get to. if you're interested in maybe spinning or contributing, please email me....i look foward to hear what you all think of this... >oh, by the way, did i mention that i'll probably be doing PA's at >these? after >all, it IS my party :) ;) > >support your local scene! > >-jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< >lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu lookin' forward to hearing more about this! ken-genie groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 14:04:55 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , heather landers Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: heather landers Subject: motion? hi cybertribers! i unsubscribed fron the list a couple months ago cuz i couldnt keep up with all the mail, but im planning to go to motion next sat, so i was wondering if you all had heard much about it (ie location, if it will be good, etc...) and also if you were getting together before hand, i would like to know the details to see if i will be able to join. please let me know what is up... and send any replies to me at hlanders@pop.cis.yale.edu because i am not yet subscribed again to the list. speaking of which... who do i send the subscribe command to now that we are using the new address, not techno.stanford.edu. thanks a bunch, zoie :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 14:17:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: The Intrigue was back.... Last night...after my original ride nearly killed himself coming to get me when his breaks failed...peekay from v-rave was more than nice enough to pick me [and the three people I was originally going to bring] up and have us all head out to the party. The first part of th night, under the bypass was cool! It was like...a lot of what all the safety of permits and buildings and codes and flyers and all that...well, even though they make sure the event happens...the intrigue and mystery of no advance tickets and finding some place, in the middle of nowhere really....and dancing :) well...it adds a lot of what has been missing lately. Even hen the cops came...not like I enjoyed allt he shit at Flesh, but having the cop come and the rush...well, I've missed it :) We stayed around under the bipass mixed between dancing and talking [net ravers I saw...Keith, Peekay, Bob, Gil [H.T.G.], Hector aka Hwyman, DanFREElove, Rob, Jon] and after a bit, left [from our AMAZING parking space [giggle] and headed out to the Zoo club, where Bright was happening. We had to wait awhile for the club kids to pour out..and for some nice young SUAVE gentleman with a shitty system that they were blasting to leave and then we headed in...these were not exactly ravey types...I mean, some where...most were hard...I mean...I've never had problems at a rave being touched and all, but I was dancing for less than a minute and some guy grabbed me...so, well, I stayed with my entorage after that one. While we were dancing it was cool...but being as the people there gave off little to no vibe and most of the music wasn't all that great to dance to...we spent most of the night alternating talking, curling up, giving back massages, and I spent a good while playing with the insence and lasers [the smoke makes a neat effect]. Around I think 7 or so, we left...came back to Balto, Peekay rested a bit, I curled up in the car with gil, hector, and bob, then they split back to college park. Altogether though, I think the evening was great. I didn't dance half as much as I would have liked to...but maybe I'll save my dancing for Pleasure Dome :) So a MAJOR thanks to Peekay...it was great meeting you and it was a major help to come and get me in Balto...keep well :) So ya'll that weren't there....shame on ya ;) Hugz and Squeezles Melzie aka misses her Gummy ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 13:46:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404021450.JAA05890@holmes.umd.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Apr 2, 94 9:34 am I concur with Dan on this. The most vibey raves i've been to have had a wide range of people represented: RealRavers, HipHop kidz, Skaters, punkers, MetAlHeads, DeadHeads, Gypsies, Trekkies, hippies, Yuppies, grad students, high school students, Rastas, industrialists .. you get the picture. It's kind of boring to go to raves and see people all dressed the same way and dancing the same way. I support the bio-diversity movement :) love, Rishad. ps. peace, and see some of you soon at pleasure dome. believe it or not, i think the presence of net-folks at ANY party helps make it better, no matter how adverse the rave conditions. Denial is a case in point. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:40:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: MusicNow Hey-ya all! I was just wondering if anyone knows when MusicNow is moving? I have a bus trip to PleasureDome coming from Ohio and I had planned on stoping at MusicNow so that we ohioans could get a glimpse of the "big stuff" in DC. However, I would hate to show up at the address with 40 odd people and find that it has moved!! I would be very unpopular with everyone at that moment! ;) So any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance... Lator Gators.... -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ***** "Everybody Dance..... Clap your hands... Clap your hands...." ***** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 15:45:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: *sigh* This is getting to be too much.. Okay folks, now I don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but I am personally starting to get a little tired of the vociferous mail that seems to be going on (in some substantial degree) between two us. Joe, Lonnie, we have learned your positions. We have learned alot from the arguments, but they aren't really going anywhere now. The argument has been stripped down from presentation of the fact and discussion of reasoning down to the argument of opinions on certain subjects. Isn't it at this point you should simply acknowledge the positions of your opponent, stop to consider them, and then move on with that knowledge? I mean, there is some meat still left to be chewed on in this conversation, but it is starting to be mostly gristle. So, in the interest of lowering the postal rate around here, could you take it to private mail? Dan Ps. This is private opinion, I don't know how anyone else feels, but I just have been getting some bad vibe from these discussions. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:04:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Oz Lubling Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Oz Lubling Subject: New York City Rumor (Monday Night) hi! a friend told me that he heard that mixmaster morris is possiblely playing in new york city , tomorrow, monday, somewhere in little italy in manhattan. I'm not sure how you could get details, but the best thing to do is probably call alan sancuary's line or something like that. oz ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:08:50 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hades Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hades Organization: In This World (deep deep down inside) Subject: Re: New York City Rumor (Monday Night) yah, he's doing something with the p-909 crew...so maybe contacting one of them would be a possibility too.... -t ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:18:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: equilibrium Yo NE Ravers, Equilibrium was the first rave I've been to since I've been on NE Raves. It was so slammin to meet so many ravers. I got faces to attatch to the mail now!! The music was good, and the vibe was mellow. It was quite diverse, with only about an hour of house, the rest was hardcore, acid and trance and just about everything. If I have any complete it is that except for Jimmy Crash, the DJ sets were all over the place and I had a hard time getting into any particular groove. This was the best Jimmy Crash set I've ever heard. I've always liked, sometimes he gets TOO hard, last night he kicked it!! It was great meeting y'all (tvanes, donato, Paul Paul, Michelle, Greg) and seeing Jetta and Becca and Mark again. Hope to see you at Pleasure Dome. Peace and Love :) Jason ***Empty Space.........That Your Mind Will Not Be The Same*** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:20:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: New York City There will be a show at The Kitchen, which is in the village, Monday night with Mixmaster Morris and Prototype909. I'm not sure when doors open, but we ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:23:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: New York City Sorry about that, anyway we go on at 1:30 AM but I'm sure they open the doors much earlier.. See ya there! Jason ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:11:01 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hades Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hades Organization: In This World (deep deep down inside) Subject: Equilibrium Hello everyone! just a few words on equilibrium - I got there around 10:30, and I'm not sure who was spinning then, but there were few people dancing despite the strength of the music. there were a lot of people sitting on the carpeted area, watching visuals done live - weird spider web things, superimposed statue images, cartoons, three dimensional insect pictures....it was quite cool. I first ran into Peppermint Pattie and Miss Treat, and talked with them for a bit. I ran into a group of students from my school, and we chatted. Then I ran into PJ, not a netter, but someone I haven't seen in a long while. I later found a bunch of the ne-ravers, and started dancing. I believe the DJ was Scott Richmond at the time, playing some haus myoosic. He played a song Donato had played at Minor Infraction and we were enjoying ourselves mighty much. More and more people were coming in, and more people were getting into it and starting to dance. Even a security guard was nodding his head in time to the music. Jimmy Crash came on with a powerful set of harder stuff, Frankie Bones followed him up (and didn't talk too much), and James Christian was after that. All kept the crowd moving. The only song I didnt like too much that I heard was the "aint no party like an alcoholic party," during F.B.'s set, but that's just cause I don't like alcohol in the rave scene all that much. I got completely wiped out during James Christian, and decided to head home, before I became a zombie, which was at 4:00...anyway, I was very very pleased to see a small, but good quality event being thrown in CT. The space was a little strange, not very warehouse-y at all, I heard that it is a hip-hop/reggae club usually, which explains the carpeted area, but nonetheless pretty ideal for the size of the event. The crowd seemed to be well-minded, a little more diverse than I expected (ravers, kiddies, mall crews...), but I am not really sure what I was expecting, I think I was envisioning CT as less of a draw than it was... Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves in the best of best ways - friendly, relaxed...it was a good thing. I was happy to see so many people that I had talked to/knew, from my school and from ne-raves or vrave...and Peppermint Pattie and Miss Treat for their excellent conversation, thanks...y'all are impressive... anyway, good to see everyone... who I saw: Jetta, Donato, Jim S., Kreig Z., Doug Z., Mark, Sprockett, Jason "BPMF", Jetta's friend Michelle, Jim's friend who has just joined vraves, Peppermint Pattie, Miss Treat, uh...a bunch of Wesleyan kidz, and PJ. If I forgot anyone sorry! It was great to see you all there tho, hope you had a good time too.. NE-Ravers are so cool... take care, all -hades ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 16:59:42 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: just wondering.... John, ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 18:42:56 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404031846.OAA10223@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 3 Apr 1994, Rishad J Quazi wrote: > I concur with Dan on this. > > The most vibey raves i've been to have had a wide range of people represented: > RealRavers, HipHop kidz, Skaters, punkers, MetAlHeads, DeadHeads, Gypsies, > Trekkies, hippies, Yuppies, grad students, high school students, Rastas, > industrialists .. you get the picture. > > It's kind of boring to go to raves and see people all dressed the same way > and dancing the same way. > > I support the bio-diversity movement :) Yes I am very interested in this idea and this is what I was thinking as I typed that first message regarding jungle and diversity of people at raves anymore. Raves used to be full of alot of different people music and ideas now it is all boiling down to certain people, certain music and certain ideas. Correct me but isn't this the definition of a club? > love, > > Rishad. > > ps. > peace, and see some of you soon at pleasure dome. believe it or not, > i think the presence of net-folks at ANY party helps make it better, no > matter how adverse the rave conditions. Denial is a case in point. I wish I could have made it. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 18:55:32 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: XtoFer Look Here! Sorry to bother everyone with this, XtoFer!! I need your snail mail address!! I mailed a copy of my zine to the address I had of yours, but it was sent back! What's your current address? Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 19:57:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: PURE UNDERGROUND I did like the idea of an underground rave located under some bridge in DC. Where is such a location so remote that it would be so inconspicous? It turned out to be near RFK stadium, and the Anacostia River. I was a long walk, but that was smart idea on the part of the promoters. Cars parked in the lots at RFK would be to suspicious. Great little event. I danced most of the evening to suz-e-cyclone, and chris bulla. Got to meet a few new net ravers. Rob Rouseau from NC surprised us by showing up with his new blond hair. Great job by John Goldman for putting on this event. MUSE productions has brought the underground scene back to life in DC! - Rob ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 21:15:52 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Thanks for PU! I want to say thanks to everyone that came out and made PURE UNDERGROUND a success. I appreciate the Net Support. The party went of without glitches (aside from the Cops stopping by to check it out, and the sound system troubles at the very beginning, but not many people were there then..sooooooooo :) I am real happy that things worked out, and now it is time for me to catch up on some sleep..... Thanks to those who donated to help cover costs... Look for more events in the future all in the same low cost underground lets have fun not doing too many drugs I really want to dance I dont care about all the fucking lasers see my friends smile clap blow your whistle non K-Hole bein' in nice as hell pleasant and lots of fun strain.... Peace John G. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 22:02:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: On Equilibrium :) BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE: Equilibrium was phat like a pregnant elephant!! :) After the frustration of losing several spaces, Mr. Trash finally did it! We had always talked about the next party in CT (there hasnUt been one in over a year) as being a "back to the music event" and so it was. Nothing fancy, nothing huge, but decent lights, some nice visuals, a fine sound system (even Ed would have been impressed :), & great music :D The event took place at Capitol Hall, a center for mainstream afro-american events in Hartford (R&B concerts, weddings, banquets, etc) on Main Street between downtown & the hood. It didn't have that renegade, industrial feel of a warehouse, but it was a nice comfy space that fit the size of the crowd like a glove :D I arrived around ten. It took me all of 15 minutes 2 get there!! Space Ace was spinning some housey stuff. Everyone seemed friendly & happy -- so many familiar faces :) There was a nice carpeted area 2 the side of the dance floor where people chilled and watched the visuals, but by midnite most people were dancing :) Mr. Trash spun a heavily diverse set set, unlike the sets of pure hard acid that he had always spun in the past. At one, Jimmy Crash spun the best hardcore set I've ever heard -- what flavor! After that, I took a much needed breather during Frankie's set. Then, James Christian!! I tried 2 stop smiling while dancing through his set just 2 see if I could -- I just couldn't do it!! :) :) :) :) Like I agreed beforehand, I went 2 work the door after James was done spinning. I checked stamps and searched people (big wheel keeps on turning :) It gave me the chance 2 talk 2 a lot of people that I have never really spoken with. I'm feeling very optimistic towards parties outta Brooklyn this summer :) The party ended with Frankie Ryde, and then Happy, both spinning some really vibey house. I'm very glad that Mark didn't get the adjacent space he had planned on -- everything worked out just perfect :D I feel just so happy!! So happy, I don't even know why! :D YAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY CONNECTICUT!!!! PEACE OUT :) MARK I LOVE U ALL SO MUCH!!!! P.S. HAPPY EASTER!! (where applicable :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 22:04:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: A Message of PLUR DEAREST CYBERTRIBE: This cool kid (who would make inhuman look old ;) handed me this flyer. It was badly photocopied on the top half of a piece cheap white office paper. It was made with a typewriter with artless ballpoint scribbles, this is what it said (all caps omitted): Why are you at this event? The rave scene is not just about techno. This scene is not just about drugs. This scene is not just about fashion. It is something special about unity and happiness. It is about being yourself and being loved for it. It should be a harbor from our society. But our scene is disintegrating! Old style ravers -- remember when everyone hugged all the time -- not just to say hello and goodbye? Remember when people just said hi for no other reason except to be your friend? Remember how good that felt? Why don't we do it anymore? Newcomers -- you are wanted and should know that this scene is about openness. We all share a bond -- the desire to groove to a good beat all night long -- and no man is an island. Everyone needs friends and the outside world is tough enough. We don't need fronts and attitudes in our scene. Open your hearts and let the good feelings flow. Look around you, pick a person, ask them their name, and make a friend. Eliminate boundaries. Open your hearts and minds. Ravers unite and keep the scene alive!!! If U ask me the worlds greatest graphics company could not have made a better flyer! :D :) :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) PEACE OUT :) I LOVE U ALL!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:43:28 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: A Message of PLUR Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 03-APR-94 23:17 >From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> >Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 22:04:00 EST >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >DEAREST CYBERTRIBE: > This cool kid (who would make inhuman look old ;) handed me this >flyer. It was badly photocopied on the top half of a piece cheap white >office paper. It was made with a typewriter with artless ballpoint >scribbles, this is what it said (all caps omitted): > > Why are you at this event? The rave scene is not just about >techno. This scene is not just about drugs. This scene is not just about >fashion. It is something special about unity and happiness. It is about >being yourself and being loved for it. It should be a harbor from our >society. But our scene is disintegrating! Old style ravers -- remember >when everyone hugged all the time -- not just to say hello and goodbye? >Remember when people just said hi for no other reason except to be your >friend? Remember how good that felt? Why don't we do it anymore? Newcomers >-- you are wanted and should know that this scene is about openness. We >all share a bond -- the desire to groove to a good beat all night long -- >and no man is an island. Everyone needs friends and the outside world is >tough enough. We don't need fronts and attitudes in our scene. Open your >hearts and let the good feelings flow. Look around you, pick a person, ask >them their name, and make a friend. Eliminate boundaries. Open your hearts >and minds. Ravers unite and keep the scene alive!!! > > > If U ask me the worlds greatest graphics company could not have >made a better flyer! > >:D :) :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) > >PEACE OUT :) > >I LOVE U ALL!!! >--- I got this at RED.. photocopied and on a small piece of paper... one side said Are you a radient being full of light and love? >>Please Respond<< the other side said Some things to ask yourself: ask yourself why you are here. what makes you happy and how you can obtain it. why you dance how wealthy you are What true wealth means to you How you can share that wealth with the world Whether you are being honest w/yourself and your friends Whether you will be comfortable with the choices you make today later on in your life Why you go to these gatherings What these gatherings do for you What message the DJ is sending with his/her music Whether you trust your self Whether that trust should be given away blindly to every person, promoter, or event that comes along Whether you know a promoter, why she/he is doing a party and what their track record is Whether you are receiving value and where your dollars go. Is a promoter taking more than giving? Whether promoters help those who can't afford the full tkt price and why they would(n't) Whether you are asking more of others then you are prepared to do yourself How you can help your scene grow and flourish-as well as contribute to the success of the events you attend Whether you need rest, nourishment or water Whether healthy stuff is available should you need it Whether water is readily available. Demand it if it isnt If you would like to share it What your reasons are for (not) doing the drugs you do Whether you know exactly what you are ingesting and what it does to your body What the motives are behind the information that comes your way If you need time alone to find your truth If you want to share that truth with others who are willing to listen How your lifestyle impacts out planet, live accordingly Why positive energy attracts positive energy Ask yourself because ultimately the answers come from within Live the light, love to all Souls for total freedom, Montreal Div. Feel free to copy, post, and distribute this information- its free! (Special than to Ministry of Love for inspiring us to action) ________________________________________________________________________ I love it I wish people would remember what this is about It isnt about doing so much K that you cant move, and it isnt about having every piece of clothing Addidas ever put out, and it isnt about knowing everyone or being a promoter or a Dj or knowing the right people...it is about having fun and loving everyone and dancin' to the beats... After this weekend and that post I feel so loveydovey rave-ish Peace to all (I love this 'rave' stuff......) john g. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 00:09:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: A Message of PLUR In-Reply-To: <199404040342.XAA12264@holmes.umd.edu> me and jeannie got this flyer in detroit over thanksgiving and i always thought it was really cool. good to see that the same type of flyers are now circulating in the north east. maybe someone should make up some ne-raves messages of p.l.u.r. or whatever you want to call them. this flyer was printed on acetate paper (the clear overhead projection shit) :) Underground Unite what makes these underground events so special? it is the openness and unity that can be expressed at them. we all share a bond...the desire to groove to a good beat all night long...and no person should ever feel isolated. in the underground, each individual is an interconnected part of the experience. everyone needs friends in an outside world which is so tough. this scene is about being yourself and being loved for it. it is a harbor from our society. allow the freedom you experience at these events let you rediscover your instinctive love for humanity. let's all open our hearts and let the good feelings flow. look around you, pick a person, ask them their name and make a friend. let's eliminate boundries and open our hearts and minds. i think everyone should make up their own version and print them out on anything you have. then give 'em to people :) chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 00:36:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: A Message of PLUR the last two messages on plur were what i've needed to hear and to remind me of the grounding i have when i'm with the tribe at a party or in a club. to everyone going down to p-dome, enjoy and i miss seeing you! haZard ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 00:29:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [4/04/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 4/04/94 *************** *********************** "Reviews by DJ John Avery" ************************* ******************************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat Records in Union City, NJ. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. Readers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to the store. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FREEZE RECORDS: "The Black Jack EP" (TNT-13) The label credits "You Know Who" as the producer of this 12" but we all know Todd Terry was responsible. Todd gets a little deeper on this one, using some samples from the archives (First Choice, etc.). For a deep tribal workout, go to "Jungle Pussy". The bassline on this one differs from the Todd Terry "norm" and the only real distinguishable "Todd trait" is his trademark percussion. To really shine, this one will hopefully be treated to some "Sume Sigh Say"-like percussion on a remix 12". -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EMPIRE STATE RECORDS: "Ma-Kun-Ba"--The Monster Tribe (ES-04) Hippie Torrales and Martin Aurelio produced this slightly different tribal track using a simplistic African vocal sample and bongos to add to the minimal Latin percussion drum loops layered underneath the kick drum. This track works well later in the evening when a more hypnotic effect is needed. "Take Me Away"--Xana (ES-06) This unique NYC house track uses the seductive, almost child-like vocals of Ms. Sandy Fernandez to inject a sinful poison. Deeper than ordinary house tracks, this one is less geared toward the mass appeal house DJs. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- C & S RECORDS: "I Know You'll Be There"--Maki (CS-2013) I overlooked this record when I first listened to it but after further play, the "Deep Dance Mix" grew on me and I found myself singing the male vocal sample, which could almost be described as "alternative". Using a simple bassline and upfront kick drum, the track creates the repetition needed to support the vocals. Personally I would use two copies and mix the first three minutes of it, to avoid the intruding piano. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PULSE 8 / RADIKAL RECORDS: "Give It Up"--Rage (HAL-12487) Go straight to "Mixmaster's Mental Mix" for an intense piece of "progressive" house with ambient breakdowns and occasional vocal snippets from the man who brought you the "Run To You" remake. This remix comes straight from Italy, and considering the quality of both this track and the numerous Italian imports as of late, I think good things are in store for Italy here in the U.S. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- RADIKAL RECORDS: "I'm In Love With You"--BKS (HAL-12499) This one uses the sinewy bassline, so popular among today's house and tribal tracks, but adds a familiar vocal sample to give it a unique quality. "Myxd Barrys"--Art 'Core (HAL-12493) "Gettin' Into the Swing", the first track on Side A, begins a trippy house journey, complete with bubbly acidic keyboards and a soft female vocal sample. The other tracks are not quite as gentle, in addition to the three more remixes of "Gettin' Into the Swing". For those who program "West Coast House", a la Hardkiss, etc. then this 12" should find itself being used quite often. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EIGHTBALL RECORDS: "Loving You In Heaven"--Robert Aaron feat. Michou (EB-035) Ahhhh, this 12" breaks away from the normal definition of "house" and is carried along by deeeeeep organs and a subtle, but effective chant sample from what I would say is a meringue or salsa record. The main reason this track impresses me is the SUPER DEEP bassline. For those times when you really want to test the effectiveness of your club's $60,000 subwoofer system, this record will prove more than effective in generating the type of bass that causes heart palpitations. Combined with conga work and vocal enhancement from Michou, this record WILL see playing time in the deepest of clubs. Eightball must be commended for making the effort to put out serious tracks like this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEEP / RADIKAL RECORDS: "Forget Me Nots"--Ava Cherry (HAL-12497) Yes, another remake of the lovable classic.(I believe Veronique's attempt in 1991 was the last try) Nick Stonebridge and Rob Nice, who brought us Robin S. and Ann Consuelo, inject this track with that bouncy feel that made Ann Consuelo's "See the Day" so enjoyable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For readers with IBM and compatible computers, please be aware of "BPM", the DOS program available by anonymous ftp from the techno.stanford.edu ftp site in the pub/raves/music/bin directory and on America Online in the Music & Sound/ Miscellaneous Utility section. For those who DO NOT have ftp access, or an account with America Online, please email for information on obtaining the program. General Information ------------------------------------------------------------------- BPM was designed to help disk jockeys and anyone else measure the tempo (speed) of recordings. BPM works fairly simply. While the record you want to time is playing, tap a key - any key except ESCape - in tune with the record. After 35 seconds (enough time to get a stabilized tempo), the program will beep and then ask you for information on the song. This info, along with the tempo, will be written to the log file, so you can build a database of songs. If you don't want to log a particular song, simply press ESCape within the information form. The record information form ------------------------------------------------------------------- Once you are finished timing a song (either by timing for 35 seconds, or by hitting ESCape), you are presented with the record information form. The form looks similar to this: Title of Song: 111111111111111111111111111111 Song length: 11111 Artist/Group: 111111111111111111111111111111 Type/genre: 11111111111111 Year released: 1111 Hit potential: 111 Format: 11111 From LP/Collection: 111111111111111111111111111111 BPM: 111 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE YOUR BEAT RECORDS TOP 12 12"S 1. El Trago--2 In A Room 2. I Like To Move It--Reel 2 Real feat The Mad Stuntman 3. Love and Happiness--River Ocean feat India 4. Mass Appeal--Gangstarr 5. More EP--Erick Morillo 6. Bells of NY--Slo-Moshun 7. Fiesta Santeria II--Los Santeros 8. Beautiful People--Barbara Tucker 9. Limb by Limb--Cutty Ranks 10. Losing My Religion--Abigale 11. Breathe Again--Sweat T 12. Go-San-Do--The Tribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: bdavis@netcom.com Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com The Remix Warehouse: shawnm7768@aol.com Your Beat Records: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu XLR8R Magazine: xlr8r@eskimo.com Moonshine Music: 73474.523@CompuServe.COM Vibe Magazine: VIBEmail@echonyc.com VIBEonline@aol.com Digital Graffiti Records: frmp59a@prodigy.com George Hess @ ADM Marketing: COWBOYGEORGE@delphi.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For any questions, comments, etc. please contact: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For readers in the NYC area, check out DJ Disciple's house show every Thursday night from 7-9 PM on 91.5 WNYE FM!!! Also check out, 89.9 WKCR FM every Thursday night from 11:30 to 1:00 for Reggae Rhythms and the Stretch Armstrong Bobbito hip-hop show immediately after, until 5 AM. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For back issues of the UPDATE, check the pub/raves/music/dj/dj-trax directory at the techno.stanford.edu ftp site. If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 01:20:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: N A S A - Online #1 N A S A ONLINE 4/4/96 #1 I should have started this long ago. Every Friday night @ The Living Room 238 East 3rd Street NYC 212-343-0532 Comfort for you and your friends. In the works........ *************************************************** BOOM '94 April 16th 1994 Psychocyberadient lighting Neuronautic Institute Trippy Layers of Fun Optical Projections - Interactive Video Live IRC and EMAIL Hook Up **************************************************** NASA's HTML Project Will it be ready in time for BOOM???????? **************************************************** Yours truly will be providing the deck so NASA's email address is, for now, Woof@Panix.com ******************************************************************************** THIS SIGNATURE UNDER CONSTRUCTION (4/2/94) David A. Wolfe Total Solutions, Inc. - Production in all media. Systems Consulting Woof@Panix.com, alt.rave, NE-RAVES, WIN3-L, HTML to folllow ******************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 08:31:22 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: P-909 UPDATE as jason said, we will be playing tonight in NYC with IRRESISTIBLE FORCE. however, it's nt at the kitchen.. i'm not even sure where it is.. i will know in a couple of ours and i will post the location or #. we will go on at about midnight. in between Terre Thaemlitz and I. Force. hopefully some of you can make it.. peace xo >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 12:12:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: a little analog story.. Ohio represent!!! Much props out to Goldenboy! You've got mad skilz, my man! Dope lyrics, nine-foah flava!!! Now we need a hommie to drop a funky beat ta dis, a phat track indeed. Peaaaaacccce, Mars >my stomach rumbled > and i asked, 'what the hell?' >hmm...must be time to eat > i went to taco bell >i checked out the menu > 'now what looks good to me?' >i ordered my food > it came to 303 >i punched up the bass > cuz plastikman is live >reached for duckets > and flipped her 505 >got my goods > i just couldnt wait >to get to the crib > and 808 > >:) hee ... > >goldenboy > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:37:42 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Burney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Burney Subject: Re: a little analog story.. In-Reply-To: <199404041315.JAA13735@holmes.umd.edu>; from "D.J.MARS" at Apr 1, 94 12:12 pm weirdo ! :) goldenboy ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:04:28 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: TIMEWARP 2.3 FLYERS Brothers and sisters, Back from Spring Break yeah! Make sure you check around for the new Timewarp flyers, just got them in the mail today. Hope to see everyone there on Friday, April 29. Until then. Cheers, geoffe "Is there a disturbance in my system?" GSC1@Lehigh.Edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:57:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: unsubscribe ne-raves unsubscribe ne-raves hey there, i'm going to be gone for a week, and need to unsubscribe so as to not blow my mail quota :) mail to the listserv didn't seem to work, so i think it's somehow using a different alias for me... basically, anything that has jshiple in the name is me :) (and it's either @amt.mit.edu @media-lab.mit.edu or @media.mit.edu) thanks in advance, see ya next week -john (handi) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Apr 1994 23:32:22 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: Am I paranoid??? Fellow netmates, Checking through my mail and I see that Special K is throwing a party in Philly on the same night as Timewarp. No big deal until I thought to myself, when we had the blizzard that cancelled the original event in February we rescheduled for March 11. We get a call saying, "hey you can't reschedule that night because there is an event in Philly which will split the scene because your event is in Allentown and ours is in Phily and the crowd will be split." Wanting to work with the Philly scene since we know a ton of dj's and people down there and we want both scenes to get bigger we oblige and move our make-up to Saturday March 12. What happens, can't get all of the same DJ's or the warehouse because it is being rented by someone else. Thus, we lose the potential for having the makeup as originally planned in order not to screw up someone else's party. SO NOW WHAT HAPPENS? I see Special K is running an event on the same night as us. Funny that they are doing this and if the reason is, "we didn't know," they did because we announced April 29 as the original TIMEWARP 3 over three months ago. So I guess that night the scene will be split between Philly and Allentown. I didn't want this to happen and I don't know if Special K wanted this to happen either, but if they were courteous they would postpone like we did for them for the good of the scene here in Pennsylvania. The last thing that needs to happen is for the whole scene to become competetive over parties. We really want this party to fly in order to get Allentown on the map. Of course there is no written rule saying there can't be more than one party on any given night but in this case I find it rude of Special K in picking that date after our generosity of cancelling our make-up so there event could run. I can't speak for everyone but a lot of the Allentown scene supported Kick-It and attended. I'm sorry to say they won't be as kind that evening. I hope someone has an explanation because as I said, maybe I'm paranoid(da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da dannah nah! Black Sabbath rules) peace, geoffe GSC1@Lehigh.Edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:08:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: unsubscribe ne-raves In-Reply-To: <9404041558.AA04552@media.mit.edu>; from "Handi-boy" at Apr 4, 94 11:57 am hey now didn't mean to send that to the whole list... but if you send mail to ne-raves-owner i thought that meant it sent it to dan and not the whole list please tell me if i'm wrong anyways, to put some "rave-related" things into this post, here are my thoughts on red... i had an incredibly excellent time.... i know a few people didn't have the best of times, but not to sound rude, i'd say it's somewhat your fault...by that i mean you create your own vibe... if you're not having a good time, do something about it! not to say it's totally your fault...but it's not like the promoters shafted anyone or cancelled red...i think they delivered pretty well...it was a big rave, and so certain things on the down side can be expected...but that also means so many more great things can happen--i met a ton of people (sure i meet people at smaller events...but not this many!!!).... i liked the sound....but you had to be in the "right areas" to enjoy the sound (ie in the main arena...in or near the tent)...otherwise the sound was a bit muddy....being in the main arena with mikebee was like an information orgy!! (thanks jake!!!--the visuals were pretty incredible) plus, i got to meet fluffhead and peppermint pattie and mistress loretta and fran and (ummmmm lessee here... :) ) some baltimore ravuhs and bpa and o just a lot of people but i cna't remember any more right now :) (so sorry if i forgot you) all this cause i accidently posted to the whole list :) -handi (john) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:27:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: unsubscribe ne-raves In-Reply-To: <199404041608.MAA14860@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Handi-boy wrote: > hey now > didn't mean to send that to the whole list... > > but if you send mail to ne-raves-owner > i thought that meant it sent it to dan and not the whole list > > please tell me if i'm wrong One of the unfortunate things about the site here at umdd.umd.edu is that it doesn't support the -request or -owner mailing addresses, it just looks for the ne-raves and then posts that message to the whole list. I talked to the post admin and he can't do anything about it. Sorry about that folks. Dan Ps. I am unsubbing you from media-lab.mit.edu now (it's what you were listed under). "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:55:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: info how about.... "A rave called Scott" he he he 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 12:57:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: *sniff* bye everyone temporarily fax/modem for $20????!!!??? where!!! (interested) :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:05:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: underground parties underground is........ in it for the vibe, not just for the cash. in it for the music, not for the popularity. popular to people that are not pop-culture. heard, but not seen. not elitist, but selective in its community. hesitant to go "above ground" quick to change when threatened with commercial overthrow. versatile and flexible to incoming trends in music, fashion, and attitude. 'nuff said. :) (waiting for the barrage of "no you are totally wrong because I am the authority of the true underground because I am this and I am that and all that other crap that follows "what is underground" statements) comments? anyone? 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:08:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: underground/back2basics revisited: the BASSment parties (preview) hey jason, your idea sounds like Simple. why don't you come on over? remember.... it's FREEEEEEEEE!!!!! :) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:14:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity i love diversity... what I DON'T like are those preppy bastards that harass all the people that don't dress like them and go to raves drunk on St Ides in their parent's car listening to "Dre Day" (a.k.a. "Sell-out Day"). the best rave i ever attended was so diverse it was great to talk to all the differant groups of people... no, it wasn't underground, yes it was at a club in a preppy neighbourhood... yes it was on long island... yes, it was PHASE II... the vibe was intense, and i get shivers thinking about it. vibe on 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:48:29 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan English Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan English Subject: outlaw portland,ME apr 25 there will be an outlaw party on the full moon monday april 25th in or near portland, maine. phone number will be released later. dj's Jack MF and others see ya, -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:12:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Soren Maurice Louis King Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Soren Maurice Louis King Subject: Re: Your subscription to list NE-RAVES In-Reply-To: BITNET list server at UMDD (1.7f) "Your subscription to list NE-RAVES" (Apr 4, 1:44pm) Here are a few commands that I am going to try: Review ack That is all bye ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:21:06 +0300 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity >I support the bio-diversity movement :) speaking of bio-diversity, i must say that i am disappointed in a rave sceen which is so anthro-elitist. how come i never see ANIMALS at raves? i think giant pandas are really cute and they dance well too. and how about monkeys? they are our closest relatives and yet we scorn their presence, for we are 'too good' for them. bah. you speak of diversity? bollocks! ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:04:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: only Mark Xenith Sorry to the to send this to the list but.... I have repeatedly tried to respond to your messages but they always seem to bounce...I am not ignoring you. I am tring to get my mailing system thingy fixed..since this is not the first time that I have had problems with the computers here this semester. Sorry for the trouble. Peace, Jennifer Smeddy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:46:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404041820.OAA15959@holmes.umd.edu> i don't know if you are serious or not. taking animals to raves sounds sort of mean to me. their little ears all ringy. some guy had a monkey at future groove. i think it was on acid -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:48:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404041946.PAA16980@holmes.umd.edu> I've been thinking about taking my cats to a rave ... They already know the music, and they help with flyer designs ... I'd just have to bring en extra water bottle, I guess ... Sid & Esme in 'da house!! Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:56:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: rivas graphics would anyone happen to know the number for rivas graphics? (they did the pleasure dome flyer) or the names and numbers of anyone else that do flyers.... Peace, jennifer Smeddy jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:02:12 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: diversity, =, etc hey all, well, I had a great time at equilibrium. James Christian and Frankie Ryde spun great sets. Anyone who doesn't think their is any such thing as a house vibe should have been there from 7 or 8 till the end. it didn't look to me like anyone was bored, or mellowed out. It looked like everyone was giving the last bit of energy they had left after a long night. Phat! :) Again, like red, it would have been nice to hear more variety. More hard tranceespecially. There wasn't much breakbeat, either. But I had more fun making the best of what I had instead of just wishing for whatever I wasn't hearing! ;) I think the idea of diverse events not billed specifically as raves have potential, but past experience makes me wary. Remember Future Groove? There were lots of different types of people, but nobody danced, so the vibe sucked. And every weekend at the loft, there is a mix of college kids, yuppies (looking for coke), arab industrialists in three peice suits, ravers, and many others. While there is much dancing, I wouldn't say there is an overwhelming vibe there. I do support, however, any attepmt to diversify the scene. Just as long as dancing and smiling are the emphasis. latah dan sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:23:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: Flyers by FreshMedia In-Reply-To: <199404041955.PAA17087@holmes.umd.edu> Hey, I do flyers! Seriously, I do flyers for Ultraworld and Modern Music. If you need a flyer, give me a call. My rates are very, very reasonable. Myg FreshMedia 410.522.6933 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:20:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404041820.OAA15959@holmes.umd.edu> Tai writes.... >DATE: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:21:06 +0300 >FROM: Tai Nguyen > >>I support the bio-diversity movement :) >speaking of bio-diversity, i must say that i am disappointed in a rave >sceen which is so anthro-elitist. how come i never see ANIMALS at raves? >i think giant pandas are really cute and they dance well too. and how >about monkeys? they are our closest relatives and yet we scorn their >presence, for we are 'too good' for them. bah. you speak of diversity? >bollocks! There were two guys at Future Groove with a spider monkey. It certainly surprised a fair amount of people, and I believe BeccaMD got on film, to boot. Virtually yours, Bob "No, it wasn't one of the Monkees, it was a monkey" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:41:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: underground parties In-Reply-To: <9404041704.AA16767@lassp.cornell.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 4, 94 1:05 pm > > underground is........ > in it for the vibe, not just for the cash. > in it for the music, not for the popularity. > popular to people that are not pop-culture. > heard, but not seen. > not elitist, but selective in its community. > hesitant to go "above ground" > quick to change when threatened with commercial overthrow. > versatile and flexible to incoming trends in music, fashion, and attitude. > > 'nuff said. > > :) > > (waiting for the barrage of "no you are totally wrong because I am the authority > of the true underground because I am this and I am that and all that other crap > that follows "what is underground" statements) > > comments? anyone? > > 1000 > He he. Fight the power 1000. BTW, you were spinnin some prette funke rekkads on Saturday! Also, proof that Wilhelm's a punk: I ran your idea about "Simple" for this summer by him and this was his response: "Man, f**k that keyboard shit! I don't want anybody playin keyboards while *I'M* spinnin! Plus if Obin ain't gonna pay me my rate....(mumble, mumble, eat a Big Mac, mumble)". Can you Believe that dude? Pay him a rate??!! He's got an ego the size of his stomach! peace y'all, - a al ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:51:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: METHOD ONE "FUNCTIONAL">>new tape availible NOW!! hola todos, well, after TOO many hours of sampling, sequencing, programming, recording, and stressing i am happy to announce that my new tape, "functional" is now ready for public consumption. 8 songs, 43 minutes of original breakbeat techno - 6 original tunes plus 2 remixes by 187 and jamie myerson (reinforced records). i dont wanna go off, but i am REALLY proud with the way this came out...i spent a lot of time on it, and i think it shows (or at least i HOPE it does) soo...if you're interested, i am going to be charging $5 for the tape (and if you can throw in 3 stamps, that would be really cool as well) you can get a hold of me at these addresses: -rc box 1027, 28 westhampton way, university of richmond, va 23173 -112 woodlane ct. glassboro, nj 08028 or if you'd like, my tapes will also be sold through zoom.... wheeeee! its done!!!!! -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:07:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: underground parties thanks... i looked for you later but you disappeared after i spun... so you like it huh? did any other ne-ravers hear me spin??? juss wonderin' Simple will SLAM 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:29:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donyee@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Donald Yee Subject: Re: * tape * In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 02 Apr 94 13:32:53 -0500. <9404021835.AA16969@MIT.EDU> Hi Interested in getting your tape. What is it on, and what's your master on (DAT? Hi-Fi VHS? Cassette?). I mean, even if the music's good, if the tape is really cruddy it takes away a lot- I've gotten tape copies of stuff from friends that just sounds so muddy that I gave up and just went out and bought it from the store. I mean, $3 is pretty cheap, but I hope not _too_ cheep :). don ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:13:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404041820.OAA15959@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Tai Nguyen" at Apr 4, 94 2:21 pm i agree tai :) we need more animals 'represent' at raves -- in my one year of raving i've only seen one measly python that someone brought to the Back2Basics last summer, and i heard that someone brought a monkey to Future Groove. What about the dancing warthogs? the bopping kangaroos? the flopping fish? :) :) :) - Rishad ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:07:43 -0400 Reply-To: LMARTIN@DREW.DREW.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Linda Martin Subject: Unsubscribe Date: 04-Apr-1994 07:05pm EST From: Martin, Linda LMARTIN Dept: FAC/STAFF Tel No: (201)408-3460 TO: Remote Addressee ( _in%NE-RAVES-REQUEST@UMDD.UMD.EDU ) Subject: Unsubscribe unsubscribe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:31:51 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: NYC SHOW TONIGHT (i.force/P-909/terre t) the irresistible force / prototype 909 / terre thaemlitz show in NYC tonight is at: 9 7th ave south / btw. leroy and carmine sts. starts at 10:30 come supprt us! peace xo >>taylor + the crew de P-909 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:25:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: How To Stop Your Mail BIPEDS: John mentioned that he was unsubscribing because he ws going to be gone for a week, since he is quite computer literate & still didn't know, I'd figured I'd post this to the list. If you are only leaving the list temporarily, don't unsubscribe & resubscribe -- just send the command "SET ne-raves NOMail" [omit quotes] to LISTSERV@umdd.umd.edu -- then send a "SET ne-raves MAIL" when you get back. This prevents you from losing any other options you may have set & saves Dan the extra work. To get more information on listserver commands & options, send the message "INFO REFCARD" to LISTSERV@umdd.umd.edu. or send "INFO ?" for a full list of documentation files. The problem I had before, and that others have had with listservers in general, is that the address that gets registered for you might not be your exact address (especially if it was just transferred from the old server). For example, some mailers add or subtract +'s or leading zeroes. You may be getting all of the mail from the list, but might have trouble later when trying to change your options. You can discover the exact address the server is using & what your current options are set at by sending the command "QUERY ne-raves" to LISTSERV@umdd.umd.edu. Please remember, the address to change or terminate your subscription to ne-raves is LISTSERV@umdd.umd.edu. It is NOT NE-RAVES@umdd.umd.edu nor NE-Raves-request nor NE-Raves-Owner. PEACE OUT :) MARK I LOVE U ALL!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:11:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Planet Earth... Cybertribe, Essence's Planet Earth is going to be happening on July 23rd. It got moved back from May 14th. It will be outdoors in Manhattan and will begin at 12 noon and last all night and probably allnight. Many of you may have seen the stickers announcing this change already, but I decided to post it to the list for those who haven't. Peace kids, Mars (Marshal Villarosa) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:38:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity crack mellow said: >i don't know if you are serious or not. taking animals to raves sounds >sort of mean to me. their little ears all ringy. > >some guy had a monkey at future groove. > > >i think it was on acid i got a snake, man. ;) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.0911 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:54:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: Planet Earth... In-Reply-To: <199404050012.UAA19690@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Marshal H. Villarosa wrote: > and last all night and probably allnight. Many of you may have seen the all night AND allnight?!?! wow, thats a looong time ;) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 22:10:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: N A S A - Online #1 > BOOM '94 April 16th 1994 > > Psychocyberadient lighting > > Neuronautic Institute > Trippy Layers of Fun > Optical Projections - Interactive Video > > Live IRC and EMAIL Hook Up Isn't this supposed to be held at Medowlands Arena in NJ? A rave at a concert stadium? Pretty scary if you ask me. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 22:18:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MSTAUDINGER@WELLESLEY.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MSTAUDINGER@WELLESLEY.EDU Subject: Re: On Equilibrium :) This was the 5th rave ive been to and probably the most enjoyable because the music was so great. I loved James Christian and Franky Bones's sets and I think I was a little more sociable than usual so I met more people- I cant remember everyones names though...im realy bad about that-sorry... The space was good and it was pretty well ventalated so there was AIR!!-bonus! I wished i had stayed longer but my body stopped working around 4/5 and i left during micro's set. And i even got a free snowkone for the second week in a row-wow the benefits of being a neraver :) love to all hope to c u soon Michelle ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:03:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Kitty Rave? Hey! Hmmmm, wouldn't a cat freak out with strobe lights? I'm not an experienced cat owner, so don't jump on me too hard with how cats aren't over sensitive to light.. Unless, of course, you've got super rave kats.. and then yer all set.. Meow, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 23:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Veronica E. Martins" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Veronica E. Martins" Subject: Pleasure /-- / / \ / | \ / | | | | / | |--/ | | | -\ -\ -- | || /- -\ | | / | / \ / | ||/ / | | | | / | | | | || | / | | \/ | | \ | || \/ / / /\ | /| \ \ /| / \ / /------- \----/ \----| \-/ | -- - | /---\ - - --- | / \ / \ / \ / | | | | | \/ \ / / /--------| | | | | | / | | | | / | \/ \ / \ / / \ / \ \------/ \---/ / \--/ \-- Life's a mystery .. We intend to keep it that way ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:17:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Equilibrium FINALLY!! I can say with pride i come from Hartford CT after Equilibrium last weekend. No longer just a sandwiched place between NYC and Boston Hartford grooved last Sat night/Sunday morning. I came up for the weekend from DC for family matters and to support the state's second ever event. The location seemed rather inconspicious from the outside but the inside was a very nice fit for the crowd which numbered around 500/600 and most apperaring to be from CT from the licence plates outside. The dance area was was clearly deliniated upon entering the main room surrounded by four intellibeams with three different strobe lights in front. In the center of the dance floor were four strobes that kind of blinked lightly most of the time but were fired up every once in awhile creating a searing effect capturing everything for one moment. hehe :) Off to the side of the dance floor was a carpeted area to chill out and a brilliant visual effects performed which included computer graphics playing over differnt backgrounds and every once and awhile playing this trippy old dance film with thes people dancing in a classical manner. Very cool and comfortable place and chill out and meet new people from all over the state. The DJ lineup really got me grooving and offered a diversity that has lacked at events around here in DC/Balt area lately. James Christian played a very nice set of Hard Trance that got me grooving and then Frankie Bones came on and for me and other's tore it up! About halfway into his set he got into some PHAT hardcore and the crowd was going wild. This cat with a MOCKBA shit was totally bugging out and other people were smiling and just yelling "Hardcore" and "Brooklyn!" :) Jimmy Crash i believe was next and he spun some more cool stuff and then Micro came on and spun some cool tance trax's including this one song i still can not get out of my head that goes like "Ecstacy" "Ecstacy" *boom* *chick* *boom* *chick* *chick*... with this electro-beat sound in the back. If anyone knows this track please email me and tell me who it is! I need it! The night continued on eventually turning into strictly house with a very happy set from DJ Happy and people were up dancing, alot until almost the end which came at around 9am. Over all Equilibrium was a VERY VERY good event. Net-ravers in effect that it was good to see again (and for the first time) inc. Vanessa, Mark, Tasha, Zooey, Donato, Kristopher with the very good Sno-Kones ;) and of course brother-man Kreig G. Hope i didnt forget anybody. But as i said in the beginning, the event was phat, it was the shortest ive ever had to travel somewhere for one (10 minutes) instead of the usual minimum 2 hours. Hade a nice vibe all night was put together with craftsmanship and knowledge, had cool people, and a DIVERSITY of music. what more could this dancing boy ask for? :) peace to all, doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu dz5401a@american.edu _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ ____ ____________________________ feel the music soft and mellow _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ _____ ____________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 00:21:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: Kitty Rave? a friend of mine has a cat that gets seizures when exposed to flashing light. th o his cat is psychotic and probably dangerously inbred, it is something to consi der. however, i may cruise in one of these days with my blind, deaf bassset hound - s he jsut wants to meet people:) allison ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 01:28:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cory Bush Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cory Bush Subject: Re: Acidheads In-Reply-To: <199403291900.OAA03431@holmes.umd.edu> BERKELEY! I was just out that a ways...hence the 500+ messages in my mailbox. My California trip kicked. Pleasure Dome...I *MAY* be able to offer crash space (may may may) so email me if you are interested. Not sure though... --------------------------=========================--------------------------- "Have you ever seen...a psychadelic circus?" At this moment is does indeed seem to me that it is with eyes awake that I am looking at this paper; that this head which I move is not asleep, that it is deliberately and of set purpose that I extend my hand and see it; what happens in sleep does not appear so clear nor so distinct as does all this. Rave on. /\/\ [dtripper@access.digex.net] /\/\ On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Laura La Gassa wrote: > Lisa wrote: > > >TITLE: Acid Junkies Paranoid Experience > ... > >I doubt any distributers will see one copy to a personal, not commerical, > >customer > > Never fear, though, I found it on CD here in Berkeley, California. So > if it's out here then I'm sure you can find it elsewhere. If anyone > reading this is in the Bay Area I got it at Rasputnin's on Telegraph. > > Of course, you don't get the bag :-( but at least you get he music. > > Laura > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 09:18:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Kitty Rave II So, I was chattin with my cats last nite, and they tell me they don't want to go dancing unless we set up a special Kitty chill out room, complete with Catnip Glow Sticks and plenty of fresh water in bowls ... Also, they would like it darker .. less strobe action .. Sid in particular was wondering if Scott Henry could spin at Kitty Rave? He' promises not to jump on the turntables this time ... Silly me, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:08:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Caffeine&Motion this weekend Becca and I will be heading to L.I. friday night for caffeine and then would like to go to motion on saturday night also. we would like to hook up with anyone else interested in going to either of these two events.... also, if anyone would be able to help, we're also looking for crash space. i talked to james christian on saturday night at equilibrium and he'll be spinning at caffeine on friday, and at motion...his set at =ibrium was rad, and we are both totally psyched for friday. if you can help, or want to hook up, then mail me please at kumquat@acs.bu.edu thanks for your time. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:26:12 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Re: Planet Earth... Cybertribe, About Planet Earth... It's going to last all DAY and all night. *blush* ;) Don't try to write e-mail after having racked your brain for 8 hours trying to fix bugs in programs... Peeeezzee, Mars (Marshal Villarosa) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:54:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: N A S A Online #2 N A S A ONLINE #2 4/5/94 ************************************************* BOOM '94 MANHATTAN LOCATION APRIL 16TH 1994 INFO LINE 212-330-8233 FOR TICKET LOCATION AND INFO DJ Line up as of 4/5/94 SPUN from Wicked Crew (SF) - MOBY - JIMMY CRASH DB - ON-E - RYDE & JOESKI - SUN from Ultraworld MR. KLEEN - ENTITY (Ultraworld) + SCOTTO LIVE! - VAPOUR SPACE It's Earth Day and The 51st aniversary of Albert Hoffman's Bike ride. Trippy Video (Many Layers of PHUN) By The NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE fun@well.sf.ca.us Lighting and Laser programming by SCOTTO and YOURS TRULY woof@panix.com LIVE IRC HOOK UP (see separate posting) ************************************************* Every Friday THE LIVING ROOM 238 East 3rd Street NYC 212-343-0532 Comfort for you and your friends ************************************************* ******************************************************************************** THIS SIGNATURE UNDER CONSTRUCTION (4/2/94) David A. Wolfe Total Solutions, Inc. - Production in all media. Systems Consulting Woof@Panix.com, alt.rave, NE-RAVES, WIN3-L, HTML to folllow ******************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 10:57:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: BOOM '94 Call for Cybernauts CALL FOR CYBERNAUTS At BOOM '94 I'm setting up an Internet hook up. We'll definitly be up on IRC and maybe The interactive rave thing @techno. The output from the system will feed to the video set up and will be mixed in with the trippy video. I'll want to book Cybernauts and Cyphernauts to jack in for shifts during the night. In exchange you'll get guest listed and laminates, if we end up getting that together. Please email to sign up or for more info. ******************************************************************************** THIS SIGNATURE UNDER CONSTRUCTION (4/2/94) David A. Wolfe Total Solutions, Inc. - Production in all media. Systems Consulting Woof@Panix.com, alt.rave, NE-RAVES, WIN3-L, HTML to folllow ******************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:12:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Speakman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Speakman Subject: p909 / irresistible force Hiya! we went to see Prototype 909 (Hi taylor, I sort of saw you in the crowd but when I looked round to say hello I couldn't see you any more) and they were tip top, dare I say groovier than the grumpy Brit in the smelly tin foil suit, except deathly quiet, like it was going through someones stereo or something - the DJ in the, er, smoking room was louder. Anyway, we liked it. John. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 12:07:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "J. Adams" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "J. Adams" Subject: Re: BOOM '94 Call for Cybernauts Ehgghh.... PPP or Slip? -jna The Internet --- It's Cyberriffic! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:20:40 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Pleasuredome Pre-Picnic` hey all, rob and i are still considering a pre-picnic for Pleasuredome if people are still intersted. It would start with at the mall and then end up as a chill out at Robs until leaving. if lots are intersted well do it so please email me back telling me if you can and what time youd like to see things start. peace doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:45:53 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Keith Cathode or Leroy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Keith Cathode or Leroy Subject: Re: BOOM '94 Call for Cybernauts In-Reply-To: <9404051457.AA18116@life.ai.mit.edu>; from "David A. Wolfe" at Apr 5, 94 10:57 am > > CALL FOR CYBERNAUTS > > At BOOM '94 I'm setting up an Internet hook up. > We'll definitly be up on IRC and maybe The interactive > rave thing @techno. > > The output from the system will feed to the video set > up and will be mixed in with the trippy video. > > I'll want to book Cybernauts and Cyphernauts > to jack in for shifts during the night. > > In exchange you'll get guest listed and > laminates, if we end up getting that together. > > Please email to sign up or for more info. > > Hook me up. napalm@ai.mit.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:48:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Pleasuredome Picnic??? Pleasuredome is coming up in a few days, and I was wondering if the picnic idea ever got off the ground? It looks very much like I'll be going and I thought it would be neat do do this as the weather will probably be spectacular. I'll most probably be going down friday evening to stay with friends, so I'll be around all day saturday if the picnic actually happens (I'll be in Baltimore) and would be glad to help. It may be a bit out of the way, but last time I was in that area I went to a reservoir with some friends-- if I remember right, it's about 1/2 hour north of Baltimre, but I can't remeber the town. It was _really_ nice. Are there any Balt/DC locals that have any ideas?? -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 13:58:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: Rishad J Quazi "Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity" (Apr 3, 1:46pm) > The most vibey raves i've been to have had a wide range of people represented: > RealRavers, HipHop kidz, Skaters, punkers, MetAlHeads, DeadHeads, Gypsies, > Trekkies, hippies, Yuppies, grad students, high school students, Rastas, > industrialists .. you get the picture. > > >-- End of excerpt from Rishad J Quazi how about crusties? jujubee ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:05:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: Pleasuredome Pre-Picnic` > rob and i are still considering a pre-picnic for Pleasuredome >if people are still intersted. It would start with at the mall >and then end up as a chill out at Robs until leaving. I am definatly definately interested...don't know as of know what the best tine to start would be though...I'd think mebbe mid-afternoonish though...also, eric had mentioned keeping him informed since the UK DJ's are coming in earlyish and might drop by...if so, tell Dave Angel to bring any old records he doesn't spin anymore that he might want to get rid of!! :) :) later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:14:59 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Boom '94 Cybertribe, Nasa Presents... BOOM '94 Saturday, April 16th DJ's: Spun (SanFran) Moby dB Jimmy Crash Ryde (Jersey) Sun (Baltimore) Trace (London) Chillout DJs: Mr. Kleen entity Fully legal Manhattan location Info: 212.330.8233 Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:46:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: Pleasure In-Reply-To: <199404050354.XAA22142@holmes.umd.edu> from "Veronica E. Martins" at Apr 4, 94 11:53:46 pm > > /-- / > / \ / > | \ / > | | | > | / | > |--/ | > | | -\ -\ -- | || /- -\ > | | / | / \ / | ||/ / | > | | | / | | | | || | / > | | \/ | | \ | || \/ > / / /\ | /| \ \ /| / \ > / /------- \----/ \----| \-/ | -- - > > | /---\ - - --- > | / \ / \ / \ / | > | | | | \/ \ / / > /--------| | | | | | / > | | | | / | \/ > \ / \ / / \ / \ > \------/ \---/ / \--/ \-- > > Life's a mystery .. We intend to keep it that way > Does this mean that the location is a mystery??? I hope that's all it means.? -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:42:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Cerutti Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Cerutti Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity It can be very interesting and somewhat perplexing to encounter various and assundry fauna at raves ( especially given your particular state of mind). A good friend of mine had several snakes and I see them as the perfect animal to bring along, at least in the summer time. Snakes can not hear the loud music at all, and we found that the bass would in fact lull them into quite a lethargic state. The only thing to keep in mind is the warmth of the event, and to bring a blanket for your cold blooded friend. And i must admit there is nothing more stimulating then having the thousands of muscles a snake has contorting and twisting all over your ecstasy enhanced body!!! But as with anything that is fragile and special to you that you bring to a party, just always remember to keep an eye on your animal at all times, for I am sure you know how hectic some parties become!!! thats it, and looking forward to seeing more strange people and their animals myself!!! peace andy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:11:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Rides and such..... Hey ya'll!!!! Well, your HOM-tress here and I just wanted to remind you that Pleasure Dome is just in a little while....if you need crash space [even if just to recover before a trip back home] or a ride....mail me as soon as you can, I've already set a bunch of people up, have a bunch left to go..and I'm sure some poeple have just been lazy and haven't mailed me with their info.... And also, if you're going....PLEASE check to make sure....or if you don't want to dot hat..mail me...tell me you can offer a ride for one on your way from wherever and I'll arrange it for ya.... I can't help ya if'n ya don't let me [Gee, where have I heard that before :) ] Melzie aka wonders where peekay got the nickname from ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:24:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Taboo Acid 2 Cybertribe, On Saturday April 30th in NYC T A B O O A C I D 2 -an underground acid music party- DJ's: Jimmy Crash Denard Jo Jo Odie Scope Carlos Soulslinger Mars [ Yeah, this is me, I'm opening from 10pm til 11:30pm followed by Jimmy ] Only 375 tickets will be sold and MUST be purchased in advance at Liquid Sky, 241 Lafayette St., NYC Cost: $7 No Guest list or comps at door For Location, call (718)599-4839 on day of event I hope you all can make it! I'm looking forward to it... Peace and 303s, Mars (Marshal Villarosa) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 15:35:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Fiend <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: Rides and such..... im going to pleasure dome from NJ/NYC, but ilithien and a friend might be coming with me, so if they go, there will be no space. put (ride maybe??) or something down for me.. thanks the fiend ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:01:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity Andy Cerutti typed these words of wisdom..... > It can be very interesting and somewhat perplexing to encounter various and > assundry fauna at raves ( especially given your particular state of mind). > A good friend of mine had several snakes and I see them as the perfect > animal to bring along, at least in the summer time. snakes....hmmm....are you *sure* you're not looking for a jungle vibe???? ....ack, pleeeezzzeee don't hit me...;) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:09:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Cerutti Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Cerutti Subject: Friday May 6th, 1994 I thought you would be glad to know this from Special K Productions, especially you GeoffE ( btw, it was never to be called STEAL IT!, must have been a freudian slip on my part, as Bones has said, " I am only fuckin human." SPECIAL K PRODUCTIONS presents FEEL IT! Friday May 6th, 1994 $10 at the door 215-552-8940 10 pm to 6 am dj's to include: Boy Blake King Britt Joeski NoRyan Karl K KAos O'Keefe Nigel Richards +others tba this party will take place at the Nirvana fitness Center ( site of KICK IT!) on the corner of 18th and chestnut streets in downtown philly with improved sound over the last party ( you asked for it! :) ) This is meant to be a small groove party to keep the philly underground going and growing. Hope to see you there, sorry for any previous confusion. also, add this one to your calender for what is becoming a great summer: SPECIAL K PRODUCTIONS presents WORK IT! Saturday June 25th, 1994 this party is in the early planning stages now, with several west coast greats and all your east coast favorites being solicited. Hopefully this event will be the just the larger scale party that philly needs. keep your eyes peeled for details. For info or offers of any kind you can call the above recording or respond to me, at facerutt@vax1.acs.jmu.edu. thanks for everything peace andy c. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:09:44 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: METHOD ONE "FUNCTIONAL">>new tape availible NOW!! (stuff written by jason/m1) > i dont wanna go off, but i am REALLY proud with the way this came out...i > spent a lot of time on it, and i think it shows (or at least i HOPE it does) > > soo...if you're interested, i am going to be charging $5 for the tape > or if you'd like, my tapes will also be sold through zoom.... > > -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu are you gonna be vendin' your wares at pleasure dome.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 16:35:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/5/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== I'm really sorry there was no ROM last week. I was on break and my computer at home is broken. We've got a nice fat one this week, though. Hope everyone can check out net ravers Joe (187) and Taylor (P909) as they both do live PAs and John Rainbow and Derek Tiffany as they do their ambient insanity all at PleasureDome in DC. There may be some sort of pre-picnic going on, I forget. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 04/09/94 - MOTION - New York City - (212) 465 - 3290 04/09/94 - THE FORTRESS - Jersey Shore - (908) 229 - 2946 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/15/94 - DEEP SPACE 9 - Baltimore, MD - (410) 727 - 0919 04/16/94 - BOOM '94 - Manhattan, NY - (212) 330 - 8233 04/23/94 - FULL MOON RAVE - Upstate New York - (???) ??? - ???? 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 2+ 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - TABOO ACID 2 - New York City - (718) 599 - 4839 04/30/94 - SOUL - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 242 - 4230 05/07/94 - A RAVE CALLED SCOTT - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 292 - 4666 05/20/94 - THE AWAKENING - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 502 - 0660 05/21/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 05/27/94 - CARPE DIEM - Rhode Island - (401) 455 - 2104 06/04/94 - GALAXY 2000 - Brooklyn, NY - (212) 631 - 1065 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 07/23/94 - PLANET EARTH - New York City - (516) 547 - 6129 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 3290 MOTION M O T I O N April 9th, 1994 Masters of Sound: frankie bones jimmy crash tiga onionz micro james christian k-5 papa Motion Line: 212.465.3290 Motion is a proud supporter of S.U.N. Summer '94 $12 tickets available at Groove Records 718.714.5232 DJ Records 516.667.1112 Chop Shop 516.354.0606 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 JERSEY SHORE (908) 229 - 2946 THE FORTRESS "T H E F O R T R E S S" Saturday, April 9th 3 sound systems, 2 chill-out rooms DJ's: Hell Psychotrope Download XTC Blackout Denard Gee Money Mars Time: Midnight - Dawn [More info to come] Location in Jersey Shore area and will be announced day before event via the info line... INFO: (908) 229 - 2946 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME (202) 452 - 7662 PLASMA1000@aol.com BALTIMORE WASHINGTON ANNAPOLIS *** Pleasuredome94 *** In an effort to groove you to ultimate sadistic pleasure, we have assembled 30 Techno marksmen from around the globe taking part in a three ring circus of sound, illumination and trance-endence. Live on Stage 1: BABY FORD - Exclusive and direct from London UK PROTOTYPE909 - Instinct Records NY 1.8.7 - High Voltage Pittsburgh DAVE ANGEL - Exclusive and direct - R&S Records London UK COLIN FAVER - Exclusive and direct - KISS FM/Deep Space UK KEOKI - Disco2000 NY DMITRY - Deee Lite NY Jason Jinx - NASA NY DJ Gerret - Humate/Superstition Records GDR Rob Dyno - Energizer BALT. James Christian - Future Shock NY Greg Sargent - Magic 3 Beyond BALT. Speed Demon - Thermonuke DC Stage 2: Kieth Kennebeck - Energizer GDR On-e - NASA/Deee Lite NY Who - Move DC Sketti - Phat DC Lee - Natural PHILLY Oddessy - BBC PHILLY David J - MusicNow DC Karl Matthews - DC House Project DC Bobble - Sonic Soul BALT. Double 07 - D.O.G. DC Michael C - DC Stage 3: Mr. Kleen - Sputnik/NET NY DJ Reese - Astralwerks NY Dietrich - Prototype909/Instinct NY Acid - Spacenet DC LG - Sonic Soul BALT. Sun - Ultraworld BALT. Trevor Lamont - Zenith DELAWARE Tiff & Method1 - Live Ambience/TranceFused RICH. MKW - Muse DC J.R. Humphrey - North Carolina Travel accomodations: Super Travel NY Mutual Travel SEATTLE Booking: Dy.Na.Mix SAN FRANCISCO/UK Happy Colors NY Lights and booming bass effects by Apple Sound and lighting BALTIMORE Ticket Sales: MusicNow - DC 202-638-3272 Modern Music - BALT. 410-523-1882 Zenith - DELAWARE 302-764-9272 BBC - PHILLY 215-592-1415 Advance sales will be limited to 1000 tickets spread through these 4 locations. All other tickets may be purchased at the venue on the night of the event. Advanced tickets will be available up to Wednesday, April 6 store closing. Advanced $17, $20 otherwize - not a bad price for such quality artists. If you need a flyer or bus trip info, contact the information lines or e-mail to PLASMA1000@aol.com INFO LINES: DC 202-452-7662 BALT. 410-347-1460 A portion of the proceeds from this event will be donated to Stop the Aids and the Urban League. Doors open at 9:30 pm - the festivities will continue until the last person leaves. Please- No graffitti, glass, alcohol or illicit substances. This event is open to all ages, creeds, genders, nationalities, sexual preferences, dialects, and headwear types. Vendors welcome- just purchase a ticket. Free techno/trance/house tapes courtesy of Instinct Records - limited supplies. PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME *************************************************** A colaboration of Energizer, Plasma, Sandman and Apple productions....... _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 15 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 727 - 0919 DEEP SPACE 9 Deep Space 9 a manipulation of space and time with an array of interactive environments sound providers area 1 area 2 SCOTT HENRY PJ BOBBLE LOVE GROVE ( LG) DJ WHO WASH CHRIS BULLA image installations by --penta systems-- friday april 15 * baltimore * 10 pm 24 hour information 410-727-0919 600 tickets available $8 in advance $10 at door _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 16 MANHATTAN, NY (212) 330 - 8233 BOOM '94 BOOM '94 MANHATTAN LOCATION APRIL 16TH 1994 INFO LINE 212-330-8233 FOR TICKET LOCATION AND INFO DJ Line up as of 4/5/94 SPUN from Wicked Crew (SF) - MOBY - JIMMY CRASH DB - ON-E - RYDE & JOESKI - SUN from Ultraworld MR. KLEEN - ENTITY (Ultraworld) + SCOTTO LIVE! - VAPOUR SPACE It's Earth Day and The 51st aniversary of Albert Hoffman's Bike ride. Trippy Video (Many Layers of PHUN) By The NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE fun@well.sf.ca.us Lighting and Laser programming by SCOTTO and YOURS TRULY woof@panix.com LIVE IRC HOOK UP (see separate posting) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 UPSTATE NEW YORK (???) ??? - ???? FULL MOON RAVE Gearhead & The Mission Crew Present the first in this summer's series of FULL MOON RAVES. in a location w/in one hour of albany, NY--a spot central to the entire north east, we bring you a free, Private Party underneath the stars. The space is amazing...far from society, and quite far from trouble. Surrounded on three sides by woods, and the fourth by open field for miles, and above by starry, clear skies w/o city light interference, this site is spiritual and perfect for this event. Here's how it works: limited attendance of 180. In order to gain a spot, you must get a pass from one of the designated promoters. This is not exclusively a Net event, though there will be a great net influence. All difinitive information that is not covered in this or subsequent posts will be available through the promoters by word of mouth only. The space is secure, we have the sound system (10,000watts) and dj's are tba. Most likely it will go for 12 hours: 10pm until 10am. There will be a huge bonfire, and possibly a chill out 12ft. high tee pee. Camping may be allowed, although unconfirmed at this point in time. Directions will be released 24hrs in advance to the promoters. There will be a 5$ charge per car & 15$ per van parking fee.....to cover our expenses. The passes should be available by Rites of Spring (albany, March 25th) from me personally, and the following week from the listed promoters. here are the net-affiliated promoters: PA: Jenn-Bug-smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu MA: Sprockett -kumquat@acs.bu.edu MA: Jetta vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu MA (west) Donato - donato@world.std.com RI: Speed Racer -jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu NY (west) Darshan - djesrani@center.colgate.edu NY (north) Cat - yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu NY (south) FiSH - squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb others will be added. At this point in time, PLEASE do NOT mail the above promoters in regards to obtaining passes. I have posted their names and addresses only as a means to provide general information, nothing more. Most questions will be answered by the next FMR post....have patience until then. Dj's interested in spinning... there are a FEW spots remaining. if you wish to be considered, you MUST send a tape. The only exception is if i have heard you spin before. send the tape (even if its only one side) to: Sprockett, FMR demo, 140 Bay State Road, Box 1248, Boston, MA 02215 tapes should be in my hands no later than April 2nd. If you wish to give it to me personally, i will be at Rites of Spring, Red, and Equilibrium. thank you for your time, I hope you will decide to join us. there is always something special about a FMR. Lets make this one amazing. -sprockett _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN KC & the Sunrise Gang together with Pandemonium bring you... ****10**** Saturday, April 23rd Celebrating two years and ten major events Portland Maine 9pm until dawn and then some! Under the bright beautiful moon of spring KC & Pandemonium invite you to our tenth endless night of PURE bliss, hands reaching SKY HIGH, DEEP grooves, and GRINning ravers. Join our CRUSADE for the blinding truth and a phat vibe! Declare your INDEPENDANCE, don't cry MAYDAY and journey with us TOO DEEP into the future, on our mission to make the planet GRIN AGAIN! (207) 773-6979 Look for our mid-winter micro-raves coming soon! _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 552 - 8940 STEAL IT! Special K Prductions presents STEAL IT! In Philadelphia, PA For info call 215-552-8940 $10 DJ's to include: Joeski King Britt Boy Blake Nigel Richards O'keef NoRyan Karl K Kaos plus other dj's presently being confirmed (we wouldn't want to promise any dj's before they are confirmed!!) [Once again this will be a party presented by respectable members of the Philly underground. The line-up at KICK IT! was about as diverse as you could possibly imagine, with every genre represented and represented well at that ( including several breaks dj's!). And STEAL IT! will be more of the same sonic diversity that you and many others have asked for. So I encourage you to put your money where your mouth is and support a party that will deliver you great sounds, no matter what your flavor is!! The line-up is being expanded to include several more out of towners and will be posted again when finalized. This is yet another party that shows you can have quality sound, space, lighting, dj's and vibe without having to charge people $17-20 or so. I hope to see you all there, thanks for supporting KICK IT! so well, we all had fun! -andy] _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 2 + 3 @ GSC1@Lehigh.Edu [rescheduled and combined with Timewarp 2] 9 p.m. - 6 a.m. (After-party to follow sponsored by LV Bass Junkies-Location T.B.A.) Come join us as we become "Lost in Cyberspace." All roads lead to the Lehigh Valley. ZONE 1: "MARS" ADAM X JIMMY CRASH JAMES CHRISTIAN DIESELBOY AND GEOFFE two-hour breakbeat in yer face jam w/ MC MIKE B IKON ZONE 2: "VENUS" WINK DB SCOTT RICHMOND GOODWILL MIKO ZONE 3: "NEPTUNE" URSOL LAZLO CONSPIRACY 3 giant rooms all in a one-hundred year old remodeled warehouse. 20-Foot Video Projections by HIGH RISE GROUP, Lazers by PAWN, I-Lighting; Concessions by Loop, Direct From Mars, Fusion. Smart Bar by DNA. Giveaways by Moonshine,Instinct, Nova Mute and more. Sound by Decibel Productions. Door by "Hoopla Squad." Security tight but nice. Doors open 8:30 p.m. Tickets available at door only night of the event. INFO./DIRECTIONS: THE FREIGHT YARD "FATHOM" 24-HOUR INFO. LINE: (610)433-0503 geoffe (610)758-9969 FLYERS by A&A in your area soon. Interested in Promo and want to get in on the V.I.P. list? Send e-mail to GSC1@Lehigh.Edu by April 1. DIRECTIONS: Take Routes I-78, 309, 33, Pa. Turnpike to Route 22. Exit at Fullerton Ave. Head South. Make a right turn(on to Tilghman St.) where you can't go straight anymore due to street turning one-way. At second light make a right.(Linden St.) At Antique Market sign make a left. Make a right turn in between the two warehouses(Court St.) and unite. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 NEW YORK CITY (718) 599 - 4839 TABOO ACID 2 On Saturday April 30th in NYC T A B O O A C I D 2 -an underground acid music party- DJ's: Jimmy Crash Denard Jo Jo Odie Scope Carlos Soulslinger Mars [ Yeah, this is me, I'm opening from 10pm til 11:30pm followed by Jimmy ] Only 375 tickets will be sold and MUST be purchased in advance at Liquid Sky, 241 Lafayette St., NYC Cost: $7 No Guest list or comps at door For Location, call (718)599-4839 on day of event _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 242 - 4230 SOUL Atlas Promotions Presents: SOUL in its finest form Saturday, April 30th, Philadelphia 100% legal, underground location * info 215.242.4230 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 292 - 4666 A RAVE CALLED SCOTT (212) 696 - 8938 Primal, 611, and Buzz present: A Rave Called Scott DJs: Scott Hardkiss (SanFran) Scott Richmond (Polaris) Scott Henry (Buzz) ..and these Non-Scotts: Robbie Hardkiss (SanFran) Nigel Richards (Horizon) other Scotts and Non-Scotts to be announced. info: 215.292.4666 212.696.8938 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 20th ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 502 - 0660 THE AWAKENING DJs : Adam X - Micro - James Christian - Dave Trance Mars - Sal V. - Glenn Garcia _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW the Reaction Chamber the Phat room DJ SUN OSHEEN SCOTT HENRY F I L ASTROBOY TERRY MULLEN DAVID J + 2 MORE T.B.A. GREG SEARGENT + 2 MORE T.B.A. the COOLANT AREA ENTITY \ ____ LIVE AMBIENT WORDMOSES / + 2 MORE T.B.A. the GOODIES: 10 WATT LASER INTELLIBEAMS IN ONE ARENA GOLDSCANS IN THE OTHER + MORE COOL LIGHTING SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE MIND MACHINES SMART BAR LIVE VISUALS BY DOUBLE HELIX COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROJECTIONS SERIOUS BLACK LIGHTING (get yer clothes ready!) 1000 FREE GLOWSTICKS (multi-colored army issue!) FREE AFTER PARTY from 9 am - 2 pm 2000 of your closest friends. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 27 RHODE ISLAND (401) 455 - 2104 CARPE DIEM Fred Strong and Home Planet Multimedia present: CARPE DIEM A gateway to the here and now Frankie Bones Jason Jinx Adam X M-Gee DN-E Tiga Osheen Live performance by EBN and Funky Alien (of Colossal Amoeba) 10 watt multicolor argon laser and... 401-455-2104 Friday May 27 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 BROOKLYN, NY (212) 631 - 1065 GALAXY 2000 (718) 714 - 5232 Brooklyn's combined forces present the goods GALAXY 2000 leaving earth: *Saturday June 4, 1994* Trancecore DJ's: Frankie Bones Jimmy Crash Heather Heart James Christian Adam X Carlos Tera Dave Trance K-5 plus guests and a separate chill-zone... *free toys and 20K of pounding noise* Respects Due: Storm, S.U.N., STOP, Spice, F.B.I., Motion Posse (LI), Mental Unity INFO PHONES: 212-631-1065, 718-714-5232 Prepare to blast off this June! *Brooklyn's True Underground Returns* And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 23 NEW YORK CITY (516) 547 - 6129 PLANET EARTH Essence presents... P L A N E T E A R T H Saturday July 23, 1994 (516)547-6129 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:14:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Kitty Rave? cats freak out to strobes, at least my friend's did. their eyes have hell adjusting. glad to be of assistance 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 18:08:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , V053L7E3@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: V053L7E3@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU Organization: University at Buffalo Subject: blah sub calender did you know that it's supposed to be spelled calendar? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 19:39:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gavin Barber Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gavin Barber Subject: New Member Hi, I just got this address from a friend of mine, and I've been anxious to get on the net for a while. I was recently at the rave on Long Island in Ronconcama, and had a great time. I am trying to find out if there are any events being held in my area. I am at school in Central New York close to Utica. If anybody has any information I would love to find out about it. If the address doesn't, for some weird reason, come over the system it is gbarber@itsmail1.hamilton.edu Gavin ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 17:17:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Equilibrium Ecstasy......... Ecstasy........ Group: Escape From Brooklyn Song: Ecstasy Recall Year: 1991 (?) Label: Quality (Canada) excellant track, one of the BEST ever... 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 20:16:19 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Selway Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: Extacy Recall (was Re: Equilibrium) In-Reply-To: <199404052356.TAA06262@holmes.umd.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 5, 94 5:17 pm that track, by the way, was Frankie Bones ripping off (actually, doing an unofficial remix) of Joey Beltram's Energy Flash, back when they hated each other (I'm not sure if they still do or not...) just some rave gossip of the past. SPY ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 21:39:17 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404051802.OAA03227@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, jujubee wrote: > > The most vibey raves i've been to have had a wide range of people > represented: > > RealRavers, HipHop kidz, Skaters, punkers, MetAlHeads, DeadHeads, Gypsies, > > Trekkies, hippies, Yuppies, grad students, high school students, Rastas, > > industrialists .. you get the picture. > > > > > >-- End of excerpt from Rishad J Quazi > > > how about crusties? jujubee Bring in the jungle and the crusties like me will come out and support it :) Joe ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:45:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: BOOM - Second Call for Cybernauts We are having a Internet hook up at Boom '94 Who wants to jack in and take a shift. Details will follow later in the week for all who respond. Virtually woof ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:49:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: flashing lights was Kitty Rave? >a friend of mine has a cat that gets seizures when exposed to flashing light. >tho his cat is psychotic and probably dangerously inbred, it is something to >consider. humans are equally prone to seizures from strobe lights. Last year at the massive raves that had strobes, it seemed like it wasn't a complete party unless someone had a seizure. remember: we are animals too! many people who are not necessarily epileptic can still be sensitive and may not know it. *certain* frequencies can trigger a seizure supposedly in 1 out of 4 people. I've heard the police have been studying this as a form of riot control. dream or mind machines work with flashing lights but at different frequencies to reach different effects. they try to stimulate the brain into producing theta waves. this is what you try to achieve when you meditate. it's your most creative and relaxed state while not being asleep and not consciously alert either. you can create your own dream machines at home with an old 78 rpm turntable and a special template cut into a cardboard cylinder. a template was devised by the French dada artist Brion Gysin. Brion was friends with William Burroughs who has also written on the subject. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:22:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: Pleasuredome Pre-Picnic` I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but DC is currently in the midst of CHERRY BLOSSOM fever (Taylor and I caught it this past weekend!) The cherry blossom parade, I beleive, is this saturday, so it'll be best for people to take the metro rather than drive... park in the burbs close enough to town but far enough to not have to deal with parking problems The cherry blossoms are unbelievable! And by next weekend, the pink blossoms should have bloomed (and the white ones may ahve turned pink by then as well) so bring out your cameras and enjoy the beautiful spring weather :) We'll try to make it to the picnic (after a delicious ride on the pedal boats :) sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 22:43:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: New Member In-Reply-To: <9404052342.AA08225@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Gavin Barber" at Apr 5, 94 7:39 pm > > Hi, > I just got this address from a friend of mine, and I've > been anxious to get on the net for a while. I was recently at the rave on > Long Island in Ronconcama, and had a great time. I am trying to find out if > there are any events being held in my area. I am at school in Central New > York close to Utica. If anybody has any information I would love to find > out about it. If the address doesn't, for some weird reason, come over the > system it is > gbarber@itsmail1.hamilton.edu > > Gavin > WELCOME TO THE NET FART HUGGER!!!! I LOVE YOU, YOU LITTLE NUT! You'll be getting a calander soon. Plus you'd better come to GLOW with me and the rest of the gang( hopefully). IT's gonna be AWESOMe KewL!!! Love you cheekums!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:51:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djmrbill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Kitty Rave? All I can say is that MY cat, Chelsea, has shown no adverse reaction to flashing strobes, etc. In fact, I took her to a rave on time at the Masquerade in Atlanta. She sat in my backpack with only her head and front paws hanging out. We had fun! It gives me great pleasure, in fact, when my Chelsea feels the overwhelming vibe deep down in her little kitty soul... How with a flicker of her tail, and a tap of her tiny furry paw, she leaps to the rhythm of a sonic drummer. She feels the quenching vibe of the raw, pounding bass... the roboscans sending patterns across her own... A flash of whiskers... pure passion overflowing her tiny kitty soul... ah, to live the life of my precious Chelsea. I think I will go be with her now... *sigh* -djmrbill ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 23:58:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: flashing lights was Kitty Rave? In-Reply-To: <199404060249.WAA07340@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, WILL-E wrote: > >a friend of mine has a cat that gets seizures when exposed to flashing light. > >tho his cat is psychotic and probably dangerously inbred, it is something to > >consider. > > humans are equally prone to seizures from strobe lights. Last year at the > massive raves that had strobes, it seemed like it wasn't a complete party > unless someone had a seizure. remember: we are animals too! many people > who are not necessarily epileptic can still be sensitive and may not know > it. *certain* frequencies can trigger a seizure supposedly in 1 out of 4 > people. I've heard the police have been studying this as a form of riot > control. > > dream or mind machines work with flashing lights but at different > frequencies to reach different effects. they try to stimulate the brain > into producing theta waves. this is what you try to achieve when you > meditate. it's your most creative and relaxed state while not being asleep > and not consciously alert either. you can create your own dream machines > at home with an old 78 rpm turntable and a special template cut into a > cardboard cylinder. a template was devised by the French dada artist Brion > Gysin. Brion was friends with William Burroughs who has also written on > the subject. > > ___ > / / / / / / _ __/ > (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ > Just as a minor addendum to this rather interesting message, there is a Shareware/Freeware program for the PC that has the same function as the abovementioned glasses. The only drawback is that since your screen is what's doing the flashing, it can't send different patterns to each eye (as do many of the glasses). The program is called Flasher, and if anyone is interested, and can't find it, I could always FTP it somewhere. -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 00:26:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Hi all Haven't been on the net recently but I have good news. The good news is that Hallwalls in Buffalo, accepted my idea for a rave there, the only thing that I need is a budget. So this is what I want from all you guys. 1. Any DJ's out there that want to be at Gateway(probably in Sept. or maybe this April) contact me ASAP. 2. Anyone that has equipment or know of a place that rents it cheap. 3. Anyone who has lighting, experience, and/or a place that rents it cheap. 4. Anyone that wants to be a promotor. 5. There will be a cinema area at Hallwalls, so if anyone has visuals this will be the place to show it---Bill??? 6. Anyone who could the smart bar. 7. Anyone who wants to sell stuff of any kind. THere is more stuff needed, but I can't remember them know. Also remember I'm in Buffalo, so if you have any info, be advised. This will not be a commerical event, this will be a fund raiser for Hallwalls. 8. If any one knows of a organization that would sponser this event. Contact ME The faster I get info from you guys and all other will depend when the event will happen. I guess this is all the stuff I have to say about Gateway. I think this will be the first real rave in Buffalo. I went to RED in Boston and it was amazing, and I'm probably going to Atlantis. Rich contact me when you get to read this. PEACE OUT!! SUESS --UAA13015.765593646/terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu-- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 01:59:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: A Beautiful Recovery Despite some rather stressful last minute delays that only saw our intrepid explorer arriving at the launch site a bare half hour before blastoff, he managed to get his bum on the seat and some twenty four hours ( two flights, stuff all sleep and a dry throat ) later has landed in Boston. Yes, I'm back! I havn't even unpacked yet and I've been snacking with Pholida and Chris, chatted with friends, VRaved, left the planet temporarily on a mental mystery tour and am now doing my email. Hmmm, might just unpack the CD's and then crash :) Grant P.S. Boston-ites - how about a gathering at Axis this Friday and then on to the Loft? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 02:42:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: CHANGE OF PLANS: Method One *live* for all the people who are interested in hearing me drop down the crazy live breaks, i am psyched to announce that i have been hired to play a set at ESCAPE VELOCITY this saturday. :) this should be a crazy cool event, with a SWEEEEET lineup (wink, ritchie hawton, and TONS more). i've heard that , if the last party is anything to go by, vibe and fun will be in abundance. and netravers get in for FREE!! whatta deal! :) heh, if you haven't figured it out yet, i'm no longer going to be at Pleasuredome...no malice, just that EV seems like a better deal for me :) and with all the rumors, better safe than sorry! hope to see you all there! erm...at least some of you anyway :) jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 00:09:48 PDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: breakbeat vs. house vs. progressive house vs. trance vs. trance vs. blah blah blah There's been some good energy in the general thread of how diverse should the styles be at an event, but the boundaries are so many and subjective that I have a suggestion for going at it a different way. How about scheduling DJs with distinct tastes/styles? How about, in larger/more ambitious productions, trying for different atmospheres in different areas? Personally, I'm for max diversity, max opportunity for expression. Are these more useful ways of describing arrangements? furthur, Neil ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 04:08:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Subject: Re: Friday May 6th, 1994 the ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 05:19:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: A Beautiful Recovery In-Reply-To: <199404060559.BAA08544@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Grant D McHerron wrote: > Despite some rather stressful last minute delays that only saw our > intrepid explorer arriving at the launch site a bare half hour before > blastoff, he managed to get his bum on the seat and some twenty four > hours ( two flights, stuff all sleep and a dry throat ) later has landed > in Boston. Dear GOD! EVERYONE RUN! :) Grant, great to have you back. For everyone who hasn't had the pleasure of meeting Grant in his last visit to the US I would like to introduce him. He is an Aussie who is just too trippy for words. My advise is to shake hands, hug and then cling to him all night. He is a beautiful person. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 04:58:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: ROM Upgrade ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On SATURDAY, APRIL 30 PROVIDENCE, RI Submerge again A T L A N T I S (401) 621-7563 An Oracle Production ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THURSADAY, APRIL 4 LONG ISLAND, NY D E N Frankie Bones -- Ryde -- Troposphere -- DNA Sameer -- Space Ace -- Voyager -- Luis [alternate Thursdays in the basement of some club] DOORS OPEN AT 10:00 $10/ $8 w/invite 516 273 6713 516 230 2118 516 476 2520 516 547 7118 212 465 3290 212 631 1065 203 454 6643 617 859 4841 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 06:15:40 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: list of registered netravers at ESCAPE VELOCITY.... NETRAVERS COMING TO ESCAPE SO FAR Maxxima Thule (Trevor Wicked) Devin Gray (TriPtoNitE) Bill Frain Ethan Haslett (abulafia) Andy Cerutti Amy Walczak (piglet) Andrew Bennett Joel (Speed Phreak) (3KY2TOSIJ@vmsf.csd.mu.edu) Anthony G Cammara (Tigger) Don Moore (BleachBoy) Jay Wells (Soysos) Gregory Winer - an056@po.cwru.edu Dave Siegel - bu676@po.cwru.edu Wayne and Chris Roscoe - guest%utcadmin@ibm4381.onet.edu Stan Leimer (Trance God) Elod Horvath ('E') Robert Smith (Detroit Kick Drum Machine) Boris Mary (Sasha) Konstantin Vilenchitz (Kosmik!) Joseph Hunter Andrew J. Ford (Astroboy) Allison Thurman James Dallas Moore (Akim) Jim Soria Brandy Jefgrote (strobe) Michael J. Knight Sypher Randy Dudley Lydia Sharp (lsharp) Jason Leder (method one) Rique Curtis (Fujiyama Mo) Doug Fisher (Lane) <3ky7fisherd@vms.csd.mu.edu> Hossam El-Saie (Sphinx) Esona (Ed E) Kathleen Strickland (kat) Andrew Bennett (abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu) Mike Butler (quest@iac.net) Jen Palmer (Jpalmer@iac.net or something like that) Todd Sines (~ = sinewave) PEOPLE WHO WERE ON THE LAST LIST BUT HAVEN'T CONTACTED ME YET: monochrome (n) luna (n) doughboy (n) titonton (n) don moore (n) THOMAS ROTHROCK Thomas E. Kunselman VAATEK@UKCC.UKY.EDU Marc A. Rhorer rhorer@ukcc.uky.edu mgoller@uceng.uc.EDU (Michael Goller), youngman@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Supermodel), peter william skafish , Steven Ingram , pottstrg@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu, "acid toy (paul)" , r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Krystin . Dauchy ), danFREELove , damian@cislabs.pitt.edu (Prince of Darkness), TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu (derek), "Rebecca A. Cochran" , atannehi@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (andy), (patrick johnson), mikebee (mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu) michelle(WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu) Ed Sona (esona@indiana.edu) Mary Sulya (marys@sage.cc.purdue.edu) Chuck Adler/NEd!(buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu) Kevan Croft Michelle Reader MIKE-D IN THE PLACE TO BE IF YOU WANT IN FREE & ARE A MEMBER OF SE,MW,OR NERAVES, email by FRIDAY AFTERNOON! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 06:18:30 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: pregathering, info on ESCAPE hey there folks... some info: method1 will now do a live PA in the 2nd room: check it out. We cordially invite you to show up around 8pm & have a netravers dinner: bring some chow, and share it... we'll open up ONLY to guests & netravers at that time, & enjoy the live radio performance of Richie Hawtin on Radio Free Lexington, 88.1 fm piped over the system. Directions will be posted to these lists Thursday night. any questions? pez, j2 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:04:26 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , austinxxx Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: austinxxx@AOL.COM Subject: Attention Dan-Subscribe Hey Dan...Can you put me on the list? Thanks..Austin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:35:24 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: hype.... I called alan sanctuarys line last week for some general info, and all I got was hype about how 'phat' bliss was going to be. Yes, it is a good party (from what I've heard), and I was dissappointed I couldn't make it, but I think I can do without the bullshit advertising. It's not just alsn alan, that is, (who's events I have enjoyed) but many promoters who seem to think that the more big, snazzy words they use on their voicemail or on their flyers, the more inclined people will be to attend their event. What the hell is 'psycho-cyber-super-duper-radiant lighting' anyway? I think most people can decide for themselves based on who is spinning and who is doing the lighting just how good an event will be. Why do we have to be told? Do any promoters (or anyone else for that matter) have comment on this? dan <-----sick of the hype sparcod@bcvms.bc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:44:49 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Love Lounge Cybertribe, Starting Monday, April 11th and every Monday thereafter, The Digital Deviants present... L O V E L O U N G E at the Bowladrome, New Brunswick, NJ Acid Jazz, Dub, Chill-out, Raggae, and Hip-hop 18 and over Girls free $3 for guys 18 to 20, free if you're over 21 More info, call: 908.287.8795 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 14:58:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: New Jersey Underground Cybertribe, On Friday, May 13th The Digital Deviants present... "N o N a m e" DJ Line-up: Spike Freshco DanDC Dayz-X1 Bananas Mars [If you're interested in DJing, call the info line.] Lighting and space by God Drinks, food, fun, vibe, energy by You Cost: Free Location: Outside, New Brunswick, NJ More info and directions: 908.287.8795 As Dayz-X-1 put it, "It's Free, it's outdoors...Fuck it, just show up." Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:59:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: hype.... >Do any promoters (or anyone else for that matter) have comment on this? I always laugh at the flyers advertising physical harm as a good thing... ie, 'retinal-searing lasers' or 'ear-splitting-body-crushing-bass' or whatever...personally I would find those to be actually BAD things if they ever happened... Anyway, my main response is in the flyers for my events...just the facts... let those speak for themselves... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:04:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: caffeine friday....... has anyone seen a flyer for this.....im really curious what they look like. if anyone has a flyer, could they please type the info into a ne-raves post so we all can see? anyway, becca and i will be heading down from boston for this, and will be at motion saturday night, so if anyone is going to either, lets hook up (we also still need crash space). thanks a bunch sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 15:05:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalie J Olkwitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalie J Olkwitz Subject: :) In-Reply-To: <199403310705.CAA18572@holmes.umd.edu> from "LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET" at Mar 31, 94 02:04:44 am to whom it may concern :) could ya put me on the list for Escape please?? I will be most likely coming . Thanx bunches, Silly Little Buttercup (Natali) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 16:16:11 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: flashing lights was Kitty Rave? In-Reply-To: <9404060246.AA02238@lassp.cornell.edu>; from "WILL-E" at Apr 5, 94 10:49 pm > > >a friend of mine has a cat that gets seizures when exposed to flashing light. > >tho his cat is psychotic and probably dangerously inbred, it is something to > >consider. > > humans are equally prone to seizures from strobe lights. Last year at the > massive raves that had strobes, it seemed like it wasn't a complete party > unless someone had a seizure. remember: we are animals too! many people > who are not necessarily epileptic can still be sensitive and may not know > it. *certain* frequencies can trigger a seizure supposedly in 1 out of 4 > people. I've heard the police have been studying this as a form of riot > control. > Even more common than seizures being caused by strobe lights are migraines. I would think many more people than 1 out of 4 can have migraine attacks caused by a wide range of strobing light frequencies....they sure as hell kick my head in. (Many neurologists believe that migraines are an aborted form of epileptic seizures.) Just some fun facts!!! -a al > ___ > / / / / / / _ __/ > (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 13:52:59 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: flashing lights was Kitty Rave? Since we're on the subject of strobes . . . a year and a half ago I actually hurt my eyes on strobe lights. I went to a party that had no lights but very bright strobes for a long time. It made me feel nauseous so we left the party a bit early. Over the next few days my eyes watered and burned a lot. I was afraid I had somehow gotten pink eye so I went to the eye doctor. He said my eyes were fine, and asked if I'd been out in the sun and gotten sunburned. I hadn't, but I told him about the strobes. He thinks I'd basically sunburnt my eyes on them. Talk about retina-searing . . . So now I take sunglasses with me whenever I got to a party just in case the lighting is too much to take. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:27:15 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Winner of the 1993 Mountain Dew Consumption Award Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Winner of the 1993 Mountain Dew Consumption Award Subject: Re: caffeine friday....... In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 06 Apr 94 16:04:27 -0400. <9404062102.AA07028@MIT.EDU> What's up, Sprockett? Summer is approaching, and I really, _really_ wanna throw an outlaw party. Remember I mentioned it in the car on the way to Future Groove? I've done it before. You said you knew some spaces that kewd be cool. Julian sez that Oz and himself would also be interested. Do you know where we could get the equipment? Julian sez you have a PA? (Julian's getting antsy to vrave right now) p.s. i want my rekkids!! =) (julian) A word from casper. To ya lata, Trevor p.s. I got this Herbie Hancock record today, it's from '80 and fairly discoey, but it's got some phat shit on it ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:34:53 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Winner of the 1993 Mountain Dew Consumption Award Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Winner of the 1993 Mountain Dew Consumption Award Subject: Whoooooops! Sorry about the last message... But anyways, A couple days ago, I bought this double record by Nick Holder. They were in the old/cheepee bin and cost 99c for both :) They're cool and mix well with lots of stuff. Anyone know if he has new stuff out and if it's good? You know who luvs ya, Trevor ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:14:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Pre-Pleasuredome Picnic hey all! ok lets get some information together on a pre-picnic for pleasuredome. I was planning on having people show up around between 3:30pm and 4:30 p.m. on the Mall in Washington D.C. The place to meet would be where we did it last year in front of the door of the Washington Monument. This will be a BYOT(things) event so i will be bringing some of my own stuff as well as anything else anyone would like: that would include toys, food, more toys more food, blankets, anything you'd think would be cool. Then when it gets dark Rob C. has offered to open his house to chill out and possibly have some tables set up for people to spin upon :) until people are set to head to pleasuredome. So anyways ill have to look at some maps to see how people can drive down into DC to get to the Washington Monument, but if you park somewhere and take the METRO downtown this is what you'd do: take the METRO to the Smithsonian stop which is on either the Orange or Blue lines. When you get off at the Smithsonian stop take the exit that puts you on the MALL. Once outside look for the big phallic symbol and make your way there! The whole area around the mall will look REALLY beautiful this weekend since there will be in full bloom the cherry blossoms so it should be very crowded, so remember that when you try and park down there. if people have questions direct them to me. People who are also helping me put this together are Rob C (who's address i dont remember at the moment :) and beccaMD (rc3116a@american.edu) so i hope a hell of a lot of you show up!!! more questions will be answered later. just send them my way doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:06:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: A new thread.. In-Reply-To: <199404021450.JAA05890@holmes.umd.edu> I have been tossing this thread out in non-cyberspace for two years and am doing everything I can to produce a big event with a concept similar to this in the future.(diversity) So far my only success has been to integrate the avant-cyber-art scene (Lalalandia did installations at three of my parties), and experimenting with the idea of a live instrumentalist playing with a dj about a year ago when live was being shunned harshly, lala seemed to take off and now I've seen some interesting take offs on that theme... particulartly the people who wore all silver at the casper party.... also lalalandia got an installation at the limelight and were paid well for it (kudos to Liquid Sky who worked with Lalalandia to do an event in Williamsburg, Brooklyn - true underground, I'd heard of the group before from their own parties but hadn't yet been in contact). NASA rejected the techno-square dance idea even after they advertised it... budget priorities went to the basics first. Of course, to add this kind of promotion and different atmosphere to integrate a greater community takes a wealth of time and economic resources so far I haven't found others I trust- to work with who won't screw it up because thier hearts are too much into it and not being realistic enough, or those who are more common---the opportunists who are more interested in the money than the actual creation--- Then there is the rest of the scene--- doing respectable work but very into the way it has been done and not believing that taking it further is economically viable. ... esp. all the events financed by Liam through Ira of L.I. Essence, the last Primary, the last Uni-Vibe and a host of others that people don't realize are financed by the same producer because THE DIRECTORS are different, but they are all being backed by the same people now and it seems that they are intent on having the rave monopoly from NY to BOSTON and I understand that they are backing some up in DC as well .... as far as I know PD isn't and they seem to want to take the scene to a new level.... so that is one of the reasons I am putting my name on the line despite the controversy. Now this financer has done good things for the scene... there has been continuity with a few big events you can count on just often enough to keep the vibe alive. but the character of this one dominant personality and checklist rave where you can always expect the same sort of thing is getting boring to those who have been making this scene a lifestyle and have been doing it for long enough to know... The scene can be better and it's time for more change.. Paul Paul ps I noticed that woof at panic(panix,panik) com is on the BOOM '94 flyer and the claim is for a video link to the internet..... great at least NASA has given the cybertribe a chance to bring some of its diversity into the scene. lets back up that idea! On Sat, 2 Apr 1994, danFREELove wrote: > On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > > > I think the only way we will get it is if we start a scene seperate from > > (but loosely tied to) what is now called the u.s rave scene and start by > > throwing small underground events in which a *diverse* crowd is invited. > > You know, I really like this idea. Lately, when I go to raves I see alot > of great things, but I do also see some things I don't like so much. > One of the things I don't see is diversity. I mean, I can only take so > much of the beautiful people who are doing the beautiful drugs and > listening to the beautiful (gotta have) house (tm) music before I start > to wonder how incredible the scene is. What if we were to throw a party > that wasn't advertised as a rave or an underground, that didn't put out > flyers that went to the techno music store or get advertised in the usual > venues, but that offered house, breaks, hardcore, trance and such (in a > real diverse layout, not with any style predominating)? I mean, instead > of sending these fliers out to ravers, we were to advertise in go-go clubs > (well, that's a DC thing I guess), regular (non-techno) dance clubs, > country and western line dancing clubs (for that flavor), colleges, > coffee houses, co-ops, boy scout meetings (I am not kidding), and other > youth and active adults venues? > > I am thinking we should extrapolate from Joe's idea and see what > happens. My purpose here is just to present possibilities and see what > might be. Here is the format, please add your comments (being as > specific as possible) as I have added mine and we will see what comes of it: > > What you like about raves: > Hanging out with friends > Dancing > Talking to friends > Drugs > > What you don't like about raves: > Excessive emphasis on drugs > Too little diversity in the crowd > Heavy emphasis on big name DJs > Messed up sound systems > Excessive emphasis on light show and sound bells and whistles > > Who would be interested in the unrave: > Coffee Houses patrons > Standard dance clubs patrons > Country And Western Dance clubs patrons > College Students > Ravers > > "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott > Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud > You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam > You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:09:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: p909 B00000000000000 Yo People, P909 played live at a dive in Manhatan on Monday night. This party was thrown by and for a bunch of industry insiders and had few ravers. This was not really our vibe, so I dont think we really got into it. We got it on dat and if anyone wants a tape email Taylor. I only heard it once, it starts of cool, has a few moments but otherwise, my sh lines are crazy and evry thing is all over the place. You'll hear a much better p909 set at Pleasure Dome though, raves are were the vibe fits our approach. Peace:) Jason Raves are the vibe that fits our approach. Peace:) Jason ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:24:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: New York City Rumor (Monday Night) In-Reply-To: <199404032004.QAA10397@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 3 Apr 1994, Oz Lubling wrote: > hi! > > a friend told me that he heard that mixmaster morris is possiblely > playing in new york city , tomorrow, monday, somewhere in little italy > in manhattan. I'm not sure how you could get details, but the best > thing to do is probably call alan sancuary's line or something like > that. > > > oz does anyone know if this is the same mixmaster that played at my joint party with C&S records-- -his real name is Constantino Pavorotti and is from italy and lives somewhere in north jersey when here... last time I checked? Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:41:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: New York City Rumor (Monday Night) In-Reply-To: <199404062324.TAA16347@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Paul J Gaydos wrote: > does anyone know if this is the same mixmaster that played at my joint party > with C&S records-- -his real name is Constantino Pavorotti and is from italy > and lives somewhere in north jersey when here... last time I checked? Hehehe. Not quite, this is the skinny, geeky, ol' british guy who wears gold sparkly jackets and used to DJ for the Shamen. If you havent checked out the Irresistable Force, you're missing out.. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:43:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: sorry > Sorry about that, anyway we go on at 1:30 AM but I'm sure they open > the doors much earlier.. > See ya there! > Jason > ok so now I remember who you are.... why didn't you tell me about your show at the kitchen I would have been there!!!!!!! paul paul good thing I didnt Paul It wasnt at the Kitchen and I didnt know where it was until the last minute. Jason ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:54:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: N A S A - Online #1 In-Reply-To: <199404040520.BAA12692@holmes.umd.edu> if I can't be there I want to send images and text. wish it was me having ya, good luck to you and all the old boys of NYC-->tell me what I need to know. I have access to a low-refresh rate video connection through a graphics lab at brown I don't know how it could be connected but maybe you do. if not i guess it will have to be stills or programs that run on your machine,,,, can you run unix stuff??? Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:11:33 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: New York City Rumor (Monday Night) Paul Paul asks: >does anyone know if this is the same mixmaster that played at my joint party >with C&S records-- -his real name is Constantino Pavorotti and is from italy >and lives somewhere in north jersey when here... last time I checked? No, this was Mixmaster Morris from England, he doesn't live in North Jersey, he is the brain behind the "Irresistable Force" releases on Rising High. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:15:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404041820.OAA15959@holmes.umd.edu> Maybe Tai was being tongue-in-cheek and perhaps it is not possible and I'm crazy. It certainly isn't the next thing on my priorities, but I have put something to the effect of getting in touch with someone who has a lot of resources in the animal life department on my list of things to do. and lest we forget our cousins the vegetation. so if you know anyone in zoology or something similar or know someone who knows someone please send them my way: phone 401-751-2168 Paul Paul On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, Tai Nguyen wrote: > >I support the bio-diversity movement :) > speaking of bio-diversity, i must say that i am disappointed in a rave > sceen which is so anthro-elitist. how come i never see ANIMALS at raves? > i think giant pandas are really cute and they dance well too. and how > about monkeys? they are our closest relatives and yet we scorn their > presence, for we are 'too good' for them. bah. you speak of diversity? > bollocks! > ___ > (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) > |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| > |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| > |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) > |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| > |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| > |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| > (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 20:23:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404041946.PAA16980@holmes.umd.edu> I agree animals at raves are not a good idea unless it could be done in a humanitarian way.... it seems we have a lot of other things to take care of before we consider this. Paul Paul On Mon, 4 Apr 1994, secret agent #33 wrote: > i don't know if you are serious or not. taking animals to raves sounds > sort of mean to me. their little ears all ringy. > > some guy had a monkey at future groove. > > > i think it was on acid > > > > -- > > The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. > are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:00:31 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , heather landers Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: heather landers Subject: motion sprockett-- i'm going to motion on sat with 2 friends, and that would be cool to try to meet somewhere before hand. have you heard of anyone else who is going? i guess pleasure dome is the hot item this weekend, though. also do you know if we have to get tickets before of if we can get them at the door too? let me know whats up, and anyone else who wants to join, that would be cool. this is my first rave on the east coast so i hope it will be good. hope to hear from you and any other motion goers... zoie :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:23:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Events this Friday? One of my non-nettin buddies asked me if there are any events happenin in the area (philly,jersey,etc) this friday (and maybe saturday too). I haven't been readin my mail lately cause I have tons o work, so if you know of an event (or events) that are happenin one of these days, please mail me at munterma@haverford.edu see ya, love, matt ps. NEw York events are ok to mail about too :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 21:25:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: N A S A Online #2 In-Reply-To: <199404051454.KAA00174@holmes.umd.edu> David to you have to post this once a day??????? It's on the calander and you have posted your plea just too much!!!! paul paul (being public) On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: > N A S A ONLINE #2 > 4/5/94 > > ************************************************* > > BOOM '94 MANHATTAN LOCATION > > APRIL 16TH 1994 > > INFO LINE 212-330-8233 > FOR TICKET LOCATION AND INFO > > DJ Line up as of 4/5/94 > > SPUN from Wicked Crew (SF) - MOBY - JIMMY CRASH > DB - ON-E - RYDE & JOESKI - SUN from Ultraworld > MR. KLEEN - ENTITY (Ultraworld) + SCOTTO > > LIVE! - VAPOUR SPACE > > It's Earth Day and The 51st aniversary of > Albert Hoffman's Bike ride. > > Trippy Video (Many Layers of PHUN) > By The NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE > fun@well.sf.ca.us > > Lighting and Laser programming by > SCOTTO and > YOURS TRULY woof@panix.com > > LIVE IRC HOOK UP (see separate posting) > ************************************************* > > Every Friday > > THE LIVING ROOM > 238 East 3rd Street > NYC 212-343-0532 > > Comfort for you and your friends > > > ************************************************* > > > > ****************************************************************************** ** > THIS SIGNATURE UNDER CONSTRUCTION (4/2/94) > David A. Wolfe > Total Solutions, Inc. - Production in all media. Systems Consulting > Woof@Panix.com, alt.rave, NE-RAVES, WIN3-L, HTML to folllow > ****************************************************************************** ** > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:11:47 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: pleasuredome anyone? so, with the massive list of people going to the other rave this weekend.. who is still going to pleasuredome? or is pleasuredome being avoided? >>taylor.eight.oh.... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:26:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404070219.WAA17808@holmes.umd.edu> from "a big silver fish" at Apr 6, 94 10:11:47 pm > > so, with the massive list of people going to the other rave this > weekend.. > > who is still going to pleasuredome? > > or is pleasuredome being avoided? > Ummmm.... well I am going :) I hope that there are a bunch of others who will show up too... It's not often that I get to come to the East Coast to Rave!! Oh, and by the way, I will be bringing a bus load of 46 people all the way from the Depths of Ohio, more importantly from Ohio University!! Yep! There are Ravers way out here in S.E. Ohio ;) Lator Gators ;) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:39:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andrew Bennett Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andrew Bennett Subject: Escape Velocity meet-while list available Hey earthlings! Here we go! Escape Velocity bound! If you aren't on this list, send me the following info and I'll add you when I can. The list is available by sending me email with the subject of: #Escape Velocity (That's a pound sign, plus the string 'Escape Velocity') send me info like: name: brief description: email addr: have car space avail: where from: (if space) Preparty 8pm Sat nite at the site for net.ravers and guests only. I'll attach JJ's directions and plans when I get them. Be there for dinner! Andrew -- Andrew Bennett abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu "Let the spice flow!" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 23:00:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM!!!!! This HOM is very important...unfortuantly, I don't have many people listed as heading towards Escape Velocity or Motion...if you need rides, make it known...if you're heading somewhere and might be able to offer one, please do a quick read through...I mean, hell, if sqwoooshing in a car for a couple hours means another raver gets to play..isn't it worth it?! :) Love and Libras, Melzie the Snuggly Cheesecake **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, April 8 CAFFEINE NYC -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kris kumquat@acs.bu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 9 PLEASURE DOME Washington, DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [For people coming from the North, Paul [papa@world.std.com] has set up a caravan of cars, vans, busses etc...coming from the north...this offers not only rides for people that need it, but aldo a reduced ticket price. He needs responses as SOON as possible!] Fiend [MAYBE OFFER RIDE-NJ/NY] 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut [OFFERING CONSOL. PARTY] melzie@wam.umd.edu John Sweeney jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Aaron aka MONO STU_AWMAYERS@vax1.acs.jmu.edu Boris [NEEDS SPACE-2-4] bfeldman@students.wisc.edu Speed Racer [NEEDS RIDE-RI or BOSTON] JPIT4903@uriacc.uri.edu Day Tripper dtripper@access.digex.com [NEEDS RIDE CORTLAND, NY] ROBINS52@snycorva.cortland.edu Becca [OFFER SPACE] RC3116A@american.edu Kyran KC5960@ark.ship.edu Mars [RUNNING BUS TRIP] a176@lehigh.edu Corey Roberts [NEEDS RIDE CORTLAND, NY] ROBERT71@snycorva.cortland.edu Mike aka Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Jenn jlad@andrew.cmu.edu Mike aka nosferatu/mikey ms5414@ark.ship.edu Jeb [NEEDS RIDE-FAIRFAX] jweston@mason1.gmu.edu Dave Darrow [WORKING T-SHIRTS-needs 1 worker] david.darrow@pics.com ilithian [FOUND RIDE] ilithian@EDEN.RUTGERS.EDU Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP-PA SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Maclean [NEEDS RIDE] John Goldman [OFFER CRASH SPACE-4] jgoldman@TMN.COM Matt Jone [NEEDS RIDE-CP] mmj@wam.umd.edu Derek Tiffany [spinnin :) OFFER VA SPACE] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Marshal mhv@cnvnja.jazz.att.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April, 9 Pre-Pleasure Dome Picnic Washington --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nick Pyen NICK@MICF.NIST.GOV -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 9 ESCAPE VELOCITY KY --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve aka Fluffhead [with Savonna] steveh@susq.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 23 FULL MOON RAVE NYC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, May 14 PLANET EARTH NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, May 20 THE AWAKENING Ashbury Park, NJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, May 21 GLOW BALTIMORE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut [NEEDS RIDE-BALTO] melzie@wam.umd.edu Mars a176@lehigh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 22:51:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Re: N A S A Online #2 In-Reply-To: <199404070217.WAA17710@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, Paul J Gaydos wrote: > David to you have to post this once a day??????? > It's on the calander and you have posted your plea just too much!!!! > > paul paul (being public) > > On Tue, 5 Apr 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: Now, wait just one sec..... First of all I recieved 4 replies to the second posting. I'm trying to put together a live hook up and I want others to be able to participate. Second If you don't want to read it, don't Third, unless I'm mistaken, I've posted to NE_RAVES and alt.raves just twice each. I'm sorry if that's too much for you. Fifth, and last, nothing actually I just got addicted to this ordinal (cardinal?) number thing. Sixth, I apologize for taking up your time. "one non gender-specific higher mammals ceiling is another's floor" -me woof ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 23:21:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ===MONOCHROME=== Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ===MONOCHROME=== Subject: FUSION 01 - New Music Release (Also Available at Escape Velocity this weekend in Lexington, Ky) It's here! (well, not _here_ but close by anyway) Announcing the beginning of a series of performance artist compilations: F U S I O N 0 1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A compilation of original underground dance tracks in a wide variety of styles...house, acid, hardcore, breakbeat, and ambience. A result of our ongoing mission to raise awareness of the evolving live dance music scene. With your interest this scene will grow. Participating artists include: 1.8.7 : Pittsburgh, PA recording artist signed to Music Now ~enhanced : Todd Sines - quirky ass audio synthesis monochrome : yours truly - breaks D.J. fEEd : Minneapolis, MN recording artist with Drop Bass Network King Size : Stephen Hinesman of Hard Stompin' Records, Cleveland Titonton : Columbus, Ohio breaks and house D.J. a.r.s. : improvisational ambience The Ninth Circle : darkness summoned from the netherworld b|Re : live electronic dance music, remixed by Adultery Un-Ltd. This tape can be mailed to the address of your choice. All you have to do is send a check or money order for $5.00 plus $1.00 postage, made payable to Charles Noel, to: ccode\monochrome 384 East 17th Ave. Columbus, Ohio 43201 Remember to include a return address so we know where to send your tape! For more info on this project feel free to contact me at 614.299.9529 - voice cnoel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu - e-mail respect to the underground... 5000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 23:25:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Re: N A S A Online #2 >David to you have to post this once a day??????? >It's on the calander and you have posted your plea just too much!!!! Sorry about my last response to this. I had just had a SLIP crash and was _very_ upset. You _will_ see a lot of traffic about this project in the next week. Just the way it is. woof ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:00:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Re: A Beautiful Recovery >He is an Aussie who is just too >trippy for words. My advise is to shake hands, hug and then cling to him >all night. He is a beautiful person. Awwwww, Dan, you say that to all the boys :) >Dear GOD! EVERYONE RUN! :) Now *THIS* is more like the Dan I know :) I'm back, I'm flat out working but I'm still listening to TRANCE - and boy, did I buy *shitloads* of it back in Oz...... Grant ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:04:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity hmm.. pity they prob wouldnt allow rave in a zoo... allison ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:29:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: hype.... >What the hell is 'psycho-cyber-super-duper-radiant lighting' anyway? >I think most people can decide for themselves based on who is spinning >and who is doing the lighting just how good an event will be. Why >do we have to be told? Ummm, that is name that particular group of people that do lighting chose to call themselves. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:34:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: FUSION 01 - New Music Release hey if youre at EV well trade tapes then, ok? -jason/m1 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 00:59:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: A new thread.. .. re: diversity In-Reply-To: <199404070411.AAA18454@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Allison Thurman wrote: > hmm.. pity they prob wouldnt allow rave in a zoo... > allison > animals are very very sensitive to things like noise. in the winter time you have to be sort of quiet (like not shouting) when you're camping and such because animals are even more sensitive during winter. i, for one, am glad that there *aren't* raves at zoos :) for the animals sake. i'm telling you, i'm pretty sure that the h.sapien is the only animal that enjoys the input orgy of a rave. not that i'm a zoologist or anything, and not even a real animal lover :) although i'm pretty sure that my dog, buffy, likes to dance. look what you did...now i miss buffy. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: cmellow@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to jshiple@amt.mit.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:15:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: pleasure dome... yes...yet again, everyone's favorite topic of discussion... for those deciding wether or not to go...you may be interested in the fact that directions (and DJ schedule) are planned to be posted on the net on Friday sometime...so look for that... personally I'll be spinnin in the ambient room from 12:30-2:00...not the best time slot in the world...but mebbe everyone can relax for a little while before dancing thier butts off to 1.8.7...plus this gives me the chance to Enjoy the rest of the evening...weeee sooo...hope to see everyone there...as far as offering advice on whether or not people should go...well, I don't have any more info then what has already been said...I'll be there! and, as far as I'm concerned the more net-faces the better...however, my personal plan of action on raves has always been...if I have the time, and I have the $$, I go...otherwise I don't...plain and simple...I've missed some awsome raves because of it... and I've trekked way up the east coast for some not-so-good events because of it...but in the end...even if an event isn't all that awsome I always have a good time because I'm with friends...and meeting new faces...and not sacrificing anything to be there...taa daaa... also...to anyone coming up from the South...now that Jason is not performing I won't be traveling with anyone...is there anyone that can pick me up in Richmond so we can save some gas and some ozone? I can offer gas $$, a comp ticket, my undying love and gratitude, and a very nice crash space in Reston Va... oh, and if I don't get a ride...I'm going to try to drive up...and catch Metro in for the pre-picnic...and then from there...what? it would be really kewl if I could get a ride from the pre-picninc to Rob's and/or Pleasure Dome....and then back to a Metro afterwwards...so I could then get back to my car...is this possible?? anyone wanna help a dj who doesn't want to put tooo many miles on his car? later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:23:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404070219.WAA17808@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > so, with the massive list of people going to the other rave this > weekend.. > > who is still going to pleasuredome? > > or is pleasuredome being avoided? Well, I'm going. Escape Velocity sounds great, but it's a bit too far for a college-stranded individual like myself. I hope to see all of you at the picnic! -Sean > > > > >>taylor.eight.oh.... > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 09:41:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: 2 pa parties There are 2 parties that I just heard about last night that you all might want to head out to... Antedote April 29th Gravity 2 May 6th (both located right outside of philly) Gravity 1 is this weekend right outside of philly. I do not have thier info line number on me right now but I will hopefully by tomorrow...so if you are interested in the number for g1 e-mail me or wait for the full info on these events in the next week. Oh yeah...smart bar by liquid technology (thanks david darrow...that logo has gotten us 2 more jobs ) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy jenn-bug *hope everyone has an incredible weekend...what ever your plans are. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:12:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: carmela@umich.edu Comments: Originally-From: carmela@umich.edu From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: hey now... can anyone tell me what is a ? how does one become part of this "tribe" curious.... sunshyne ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:21:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: 2 pa parties <--but in CT In-Reply-To: <199404071341.JAA21237@holmes.umd.edu> on the 16th of april, at yale, a film group is having a media/dance fun fun party. it'll be 9pm to 1am i think. it should be pretty interesting, so if you're in the surrounding area please come out and support these guys. i'm spinning and squishy designs should have a booth going for your retinal delights. :) for more info, mail me personally and i'll send it to you as i receive it. peace chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: cmellow@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to jshiple@amt.mit.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:24:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <199404071412.KAA21959@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Sam Sunshyne wrote: > can anyone tell me what is a ? > > how does one become part of this "tribe" we are all cybertribe members (net-raver types) and you already *is* one :) chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: cmellow@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to jshiple@amt.mit.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:16:29 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Woosta Acid Party Hi all, Joel and I found another space for this weekend (last minute as usual :)). ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday APRIL 9th Worcester, MA (617) 424 - 7183 NEAU djm@progress.com N E A U presents yet another hard acid trance party DJs: * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Dave-DjM (Boston) * Howie (Woosta Underground) * ...others... Time: 11pm - Cost: FREE (Donations are accepted) DIRECTIONS: (INFO LINE on April 9th ONLY: 617-424-7183) * Directions will be posted sometime between today and Friday night. * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:39:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: ROM Upgrade Cybertribe, Someone added this to the ROM: >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >On SATURDAY, APRIL 30 PROVIDENCE, RI > Submerge again > > A T L A N T I S > >(401) 621-7563 An Oracle Production > Watch out for those Oracle Parties. They were the ones who were trying to do the aircraft carrier rave which was a miserable fall through... Careful, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:14:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: pleasure dome meeting inside Well if you have not made plans already....We can all meet inside at the smart bar. We will be there all night so just come up and introduce yourself :) Marshal and I, I think, are going to try and make it to the pre-party...but for as long as I have been on the list we have never actually made it on time....so who knows. **So for you all that can not go to the pre-party...I think the smart bar would as good a place as any...What do you all think?? Hope to meet you all plus many more this saturday :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:14:02 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Awakening DP Productions presents... A W A K E N I N G Friday, May 20 In the Main Sound Chamber: ADAM X - Groove Records, Brooklyn JAMES CHRISTIAN - Limelight, NYC MICRO - Caffeine, Long Island DAVE TRANCE - Caffeine, Long Island MARS - Oral, NJ GLEN GARCIA - Oral, NJ SAL V. - Oral, NJ Downstairs in Deeper Love: NIGEL RICHARDS - 611 Records, Philly SPIKE - Planet X Music, NJ JEFF MANHEIMER - WHTG 106.3 FM, NJ B:RAD - Vinyl, NJ BLACKOUT - Blondies, NJ JAH-RED - Blondies, NJ Mind expanding lighting and visuals by TDL EFFECTS [lighting crew for Nine Inch Nails last tour] 25K of bloody deep sound by BACKWARD AUDIO Smart Bar by LIQUID TECHNOLOGY Tribal Drumming Circle Admission: $10 in advanced, $12 at the door Doors open at 9pm, close late 24 hour info and directions: 908.502.0660 After hours by the ORAL POSSE [ If you spin after hours sort of music, e-mail me and I will get you set up to spin for this party! - Mars ] TICKET LOCATIONS: Planet X Music - New Brunswick, NJ 908.249.0304 Vintage Vinyl - Eatontown, NJ 908.517.0990 611 Records - Philly, PA 215.413.9100 Groove Records - Brooklyn, NY 718.714.5232 PROMO & BUS TRIPS: Outer Space - NJ - 908.506.9592 Angel Asylum - NJ - 908.972.6270 J-Fresh - NJ - 908.493.0172 Digital Deviants - NJ - 908.287.8795 Zoom - Allentown - 215.998.9650 T.H.C. Prod. - Philly - 215.923.4339 Alan Sanctuary - Manhattan - 212.696.8938 Kort & Greg - Long Island - 516.547.7118 Island Vibe - Long Island - 516.476.2520 United Techno - Conn. - 203.646.6381 DanFreeLove - D.C. - 202.973.2109 TranceFused - Richmond - 804.768.2000 [ If you're interested in promoting or running a bus trip e-mail Mars at: a176@lehigh.edu We especially need help in Upstate NY, the Boston area, and further west into Pittsburg and Ohio. THANX! ] This party is going to be sooooo phat, you have to come out for it!!!! Hope to see many net ravers! Love you all! Peace, Mars (Marshal Villarosa) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:45:29 ADT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <07APR94.14817660.0038.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N Subject: Portland newspaper article Hey! Thought i'd let yu all know that i was interviewed at great length by a reporter from a Portland newspaper yesterday who is doing an article on K.C. and the sunrise gang and the upcoming TEN. i was quite surprised that they would call me in Canada for such an inter view but she did. We talked for quite a bit. She said it would be the cover story to the entertainment section of an upcoming saturday edition. Could anyone keep their eyes peeled for it and let me know when it comes out. i'm interested in what it says about the whole thing. The reporter said she had been to Crusade and didn't like it. i told it had changed my personal view of americans(and america too, to a certain extent)virtually overnight. Anyway, though i would pass that on. Look for more record reviews from me soon. Especiallya a real beauty i picked up in a used record shop ambient lovers would flip for. (the cd, not the store) Ciao, Nick Oliver AKA dj Nonsense ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:33:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Cerutti Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Cerutti Subject: Saturday April 16th ( not BOOM), 1994 :) From: IN%"DCRAVES%AUVM.BITNET@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU" "Washington D.C. Rave List" 7-APR-1994 12:31:16.09 To: IN%"DCRAVES%AUVM.BITNET@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU" "Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES" CC: Subj: Super Wiggle! Return-path: <@VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU:owner-dcraves@AMERICAN.EDU> Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU by VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU (PMDF V4.2-14 #6308) id <01HAW6KCDSHS8WWR1P@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:30:23 EST Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6207; Thu, 07 Apr 94 12:30:34 EDT Received: from VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (NJE origin LISTBIT@VTBIT) by VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6773; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:30:34 -0400 Date: Thu, 07 Apr 1994 12:30:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Johnny L Subject: Super Wiggle! Sender: "Washington D.C. Rave List" To: Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES Reply-to: "Washington D.C. Rave List" Message-id: <01HAW6KCQDTE8WWR1P@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: dcraves@american.edu X-cc: seraves@american.edu Hey everybody, while there's a lot of talk about this weekend's parties, I don't want you all to forget about next weekend. It's Duncan's birthday and so he wants to throw an extra special party. That's why he's gotten together Wink, Scott Henry, On-E, Nigel Richards, and Glad Hand's own Fil, David J, and Todd Krulak. He's having all these dj's in the dance room PLUS two full movie theatres playing all night long ALL for only FIVE BUCKS. Sorry for shouting and I apologize if I sound like a barker but I think it's really nice of Duncan to keep the price at only five dollars especially when he could charge easily double that for this line-up. The party will start at 11 and go til at least 10am. If people stick around, we'll go til 2pm. It should be a really fun plur party. Oh, it's Saturday, April 16th and there's not even anything else going on that night unless you want to travel all the way up to NY, and besides, we're friendlier. I've been having a grafitti artist friend of mine decorate the inside of the space to make it even jazzier. All I can say is COME COME COME! (I would like to add a note that I am not financially involved with these events and that is not why I brag about them. When Duncan only charges five bucks, you can't really pay anybody but the djs and security.) So I hope you all make the trek down to Charlottesville, Va. It's on the Downtown Mall in the Jefferson Theatre (It's an old time movie theatre, really a cool venue). Just think when could you ever see Wink, Scott Henry, On-E, and Nigel Richards for five bucks?! Please feel free to email me if you need directions or anything else. Thanks and have a merry weekend. -- ((( Johnny Lemonhead (gabe) @ @ ( ^ ) o ggr9a@darwin.clas.virginia.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 13:50:04 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: pleasure dome... In-Reply-To: <199404070516.BAA18815@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Derek Tiffany wrote: > yes...yet again, everyone's favorite topic of discussion... > > for those deciding wether or not to go...you may be interested in the > fact that directions (and DJ schedule) are planned to be posted on the > net on Friday sometime...so look for that... > > personally I'll be spinnin in the ambient room from 12:30-2:00...not the > best time slot in the world...but mebbe everyone can relax for a little > while before dancing thier butts off to 1.8.7...plus this gives me the > chance to Enjoy the rest of the evening...weeee Ok, this would be true but they changed the time on me again. They told me 2:10 before and now it is 12:10 so Derek you will catch the first 15-20mins if all goes as planned. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 10:28:38 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: ROM Upgrade The first Oracle party was a year ago last fall, in Providence. It got busted because a bunch of teenagers were sitting outside in front of the party drinking beer. The cops went back and found out that the party was "selling food without a licence" and busted the party on that technicality (they were selling smart drinks and sodas). Then there was the first Atlantis, held a bit over a year ago, in a beautiful health club south of Providence. The ravers absolutely trashed the place, and the management closed the party down early when they realized how long it would take to clean up. Now, I've talked to Manny, Mr. Oracle himself, a few times and he seems like a nice guy with his heart in a decent place but it just seems like he misses the point on logistics :-( . I'd take the Derek Tiffany approach: If you've got the time, the money, and the inclination check it out -- Manny might have gotten his shit together -- but like with anything else let the raver beware. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 15:27:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: INFO: Awakening In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 07 Apr 94 12:14:02 -0400. <9404071615.AA23366@MIT.EDU> >After hours by the ORAL POSSE [ If you spin after hours sort of music, e-mail >me and I will get you set up to spin for this party! - Mars ] What exactly is after hours sort of music? I spin trance, progressive house, house and am interested in spinning. If you consider any of these genres after hours sort of music, then I'd like to be considered. I can send a demo if you want, but I'm pretty known through the net so you can probably ask Jetta, Oz, or some other people how my mixing is. Thanks. JimmY |-|/\t (condom/boston) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:03:57 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Woosta Acid Party Directions Here are them dIrections... Saturday APRIL 9th Worcester, MA (617) 424 - 7183 NEAU djm@progress.com N E A U presents yet another hard acid trance party DJs: * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Dave-DjM (Boston) * Mellow (Boston) * Howie (Woosta Underground) * ...others... Time: 11pm - Cost: FREE (Donations are accepted) DIRECTIONS: (INFO LINE on April 9th ONLY: 617-424-7183) FROM BOSTON or FROM 95: Take 90W to 290 E (exit 10). Take exit 17 off of 290 E. At top of exit ramp take a left onto highland street/Rt 9. Follow rest of directions below. FROM NH: Take 495S to 290 W. Take exit 17 off of 290 W. Take a right off of exit onto lincoln street. Follow that road to a fork and bear left. At the second light take a right onto highland street/rt 9. Follow the rest of the directions below. REST OF DIRECTIONS: Go 1 mile straight to park ave. Take right (right after BIG D). Straight on park ave for 1.5 miles. this turns into Goldstar Blvd. Then take first left onto W. Boylston St. after Shaws and before bridge. It's #81 W. Boylston St. FOR PARKING: Take first right onto Huntington Ave and park 1st parting lot on right. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:20:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: need Escape Velocity facts..... hey all. I just need some facts about Escape Velocity so I can decide whether or not to go to it or PD: How much is it for non-cybertribers? Where in the hell is Lexington in relation to the rest of Kentucky? (I can just see my junior high Civics teacher scowling at me from behind her mustache.) Who exactly is spinning? (sorry, I killed the previous post that had all this stuff.) - acid "loco for locopuffs" al ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:45:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: MOOs and MUDs Hi all, I seem to remember a while back that there was a MUD or MOO where people from the rave mailing lists were encouraged to hang out. Does anyone know the address for this place? BTW, I'll be at Caffeine this Friday, wearing a Nervous Records t-shirt, and I might put in a guest appearance at Motion as well. Virtually yours, Bob "People go MOO and cows go moo" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:12:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: hype.... In-Reply-To: <199404070429.AAA18593@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, WILL-E wrote: > >What the hell is 'psycho-cyber-super-duper-radiant lighting' anyway? > >I think most people can decide for themselves based on who is spinning > >and who is doing the lighting just how good an event will be. Why > >do we have to be told? > > Ummm, that is name that particular group of people that do lighting chose > to call themselves. > If I'm not mistaken the NASA crew trademarked (tm) that term psyco-cyber-radiant as well as star-date and of course NASA and some other terms for BOOM last year, not sure if it was legitamate or not but the BOOM flyer had the (TM) mark next to all the terms in question. Paul Paul .......just food for thought ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 19:19:21 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: timely article...... hey all, I thought this might be a useful post in light of the current talk of diversity.In the latest issue of wired, there is an article about 'zippies' in england, who evolved from ravers and new age travellers, or 'crusties.' Much of what is said in the article mirrors what has been discussed on the list. The author tells us of the coming zippie invasion. But is any of the underground parties people are talking about get off the ground, which emphasize diversity, we'll certainly beat this supposed invasion. They talk of this new scene as if it totally breaks from the rave scene, but it still uses much of the same music, same emphasis on technology. What id does is incorporate alot more people to create a positive vibe. an interesting article.... dan sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 19:31:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <199404071412.KAA21959@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Sam Sunshyne wrote: > hey now... > > can anyone tell me what is a ? That is my default name for people I have no better information on when I add them to the list. I had hundreds of people I had to give names to (so that listserv would accept their addition to the list) when I moved it to this site. It had to be two words, so everyone became . In the absence of any name from your submission to the ne-raves list that name is automatically added to your email address. > how does one become part of this "tribe" Once on NE Raves, you are a member of the tribe. Dan Ps. Did I mention the initiation? ;) "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:27:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404070219.WAA17808@holmes.umd.edu> a big silver fish writes: > so, with the massive list of people going to the other rave this > weekend.. > > who is still going to pleasuredome? > > or is pleasuredome being avoided? Well, I thought long and hard. Then I thought about going all the way to Kentucky from NJ. Then I thought about how 1.8.7 and P909 are playing at PD. Then I decided to go to Pleasure Dome :-) - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 20:19:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: nirvana may 28th detroit area hey now- i'm tring to get in touch with someone who can direct me to 1.8.7. i would like to try and bring 'em out for my event, nirvana, going down here in detroit on may 28th. if anybody can hook me with the info please send it to: carmela@umich.edu . thanks amucho.... sunshyne universal groove productions ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:05:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404070219.WAA17808@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > who is still going to pleasuredome? Me You Joe Derek Rainbow BDFM (go figure ;) ) Rush Limbaugh (well, maybe not) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:07:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Speed Racer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Speed Racer Subject: Re: ROM Upgrade In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:39:05 EDT from >Cybertribe, > > >>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >>(401) 621-7563 An Oracle Production >> >Watch out for those Oracle Parties. They were the ones who were trying to do >the aircraft carrier rave which was a miserable fall through... > hey my very first rave was "nova", an oracle production :) wow what a fun time that was! of course that was a while back too...they may have gotten shittier since then... i dunno. joe (speed racer) email me for vrave badge info ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 22:02:16 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: pleasure dome meeting inside In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:14:46 -0400 from I will be making a sign at Kinko's tomorrow! I will put it on really loud and o bnoxious paper so everyone can find it! Jenn-bug, your idea (as usual) is a goo d one. the smart bar! everyone stop by, have your picture taken by me, and give me your address...:) I DO send out copies to those who request it...:) hope to see bunches of you there! BeccaMD ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 23:16:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: timely article...... In-Reply-To: <199404072320.TAA00118@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, wrote: > I thought this might be a useful post in light of the current talk of > diversity.In the latest issue of wired, there is an article about 'zippies' in > england, also, they mentioned that there's going to be a "rainbow gathering" ravey zippy thing at the grand canyon this august :) i say we send down some convoys of ne'ers to join in the fun. i'm thinking about making this a vacation this summer, if i keep up with the info on it. hmm...woodstock of the '90s? :) chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: cmellow@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to jshiple@amt.mit.edu. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 01:30:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: timely article...... Hmmm...I guess I should go out and buy wired, but I'm not exactly clear as to what this "zippy" thing is...Why the word "zippy"? Do they have a short attention span ?( Just kidding)...Is it "the next new thing hiideehooo jump on the bandwagon" (unlikely if ne-ravers are honestly interested...)...who are these people? What do they want? What do they do? What do they take :) ? What do they listen to? Is there a certain socio-economic background involved? Confused & loving it :) Terence "no, not Trent d'Arby" Strick (winking at Bob Baxter ;) ) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 00:26:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: pleasure dome Ravers, Sorry but I'm afraid P909 will NOT be playing at Pleasure Dome. But Dietrich WILL be spinning!! You should check him out, he gave me his practice tape and it SLAMS!! Far out ambient set. Worth a trip to MD, but I will probably go to Motion because I have two freinds from CT to go with, and they'd rather go to Motion.. Oh well, how things get screwed up!! See y'all at Motion!! Peace:):) Jason ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 22:57:30 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404080107.VAA00850@holmes.umd.edu> danFREELove writes: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > > > who is still going to pleasuredome? > > Me > You > Joe > Derek > Rainbow > BDFM (go figure ;) ) > Rush Limbaugh (well, maybe not) Hey, I *knew* I was going to PD when I heard Rush is going :-) - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 02:59:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404080107.VAA00850@holmes.umd.edu> I am... still running the caravan for all those stranded and needing transport from ... (Boston), Providence, CT-new haven/hartford, Poughkeepsie NY, NYC people can come if they take the Path train to Hoboken, New Brunswick/Princeton NJ, Philadelphia..... OK email me immediately or call 401-751-2168 to confirm On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, danFREELove wrote: > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > > > who is still going to pleasuredome? > > Me > You > Joe > Derek > Rainbow > BDFM (go figure ;) ) > Rush Limbaugh (well, maybe not) > > Dan > > "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott > Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud > You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam > You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 03:05:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: pleasure dome meeting inside In-Reply-To: <199404080205.WAA01238@holmes.umd.edu> It should also have some kind of light to shine on it... that will help alot I was almost entirely sober at RED and I missed it... really it's easy to miss stuff when there is so much to see... Paul Paul On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Rebecca A. Cochran wrote: > I will be making a sign at Kinko's tomorrow! I will put it on really loud and o > bnoxious paper so everyone can find it! Jenn-bug, your idea (as usual) is a goo > d one. the smart bar! everyone stop by, have your picture taken by me, and give > me your address...:) I DO send out copies to those who request it...:) hope to > see bunches of you there! > BeccaMD > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 03:13:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: timely article...... In-Reply-To: <199404080534.BAA02354@holmes.umd.edu> If this article is trying to define the thing that I'm onto... I also mentioned the in earlier posts the attitude held by a certain group of hip youths which I have had the pleasure? of having spent time with... they break the boundaries of definition and the tendencies are very etherial in the fact that they make it almost impossible to catagorize anyone in this thing either as a group or as an individual... they achieve the ultimate post-modern standard by leaving themselves unsuseptable to labels unless you aren't looking close enough... they can be snobby. Yes the one-off events are heading in this direction... I believe the word rave has been inadequate for quite some time now but have hesitated to give a new word for what's happening because it seems to defeat the purpose and I stick to NE-raves because it focuses on one-offs in my region more than anything else. replies.... Paul Paul ....did I add to the confusion???? On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Terence R. Strick wrote: > Hmmm...I guess I should go out and buy wired, but I'm not exactly > clear as to what this "zippy" thing is...Why the word "zippy"? Do they > have a short attention span ?( Just kidding)...Is it "the next new > thing hiideehooo jump on the bandwagon" (unlikely if ne-ravers are > honestly interested...)...who are these people? What do they want? > What do they do? What do they take :) ? What do they listen to? > Is there a certain socio-economic background involved? > > Confused & loving it :) > > Terence "no, not Trent d'Arby" Strick (winking at Bob Baxter ;) ) > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 03:18:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: jason read now-->Re: pleasure dome In-Reply-To: <199404080600.CAA02434@holmes.umd.edu> Jason, I will pick you up and your equipment in the van I'm renting and bring your friends so you go to Pleasuredome as you should.......that's all call me collect as Jason 909 if you need to. I wish to hear from you either way. Paul Paul On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Jason Szostek wrote: > Ravers, > Sorry but I'm afraid P909 will NOT be playing at Pleasure Dome. > But Dietrich WILL be spinning!! > You should check him out, he gave me his practice tape > and it SLAMS!! > Far out ambient set. Worth a trip to MD, but I will > probably go to Motion because I have two freinds from > CT to go with, and they'd rather go to Motion.. > Oh well, how things get screwed up!! > See y'all at Motion!! > Peace:):) > Jason > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 04:36:40 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: pleasure dome In-Reply-To: <199404080600.CAA02434@holmes.umd.edu> Jason Szostek writes: > Ravers, > Sorry but I'm afraid P909 will NOT be playing at Pleasure Dome. ARGH!!! ARGH! NOOOOOOO! Care to say why? What's next? 1.8.7 pulling out? I sure as hell hope not! Joe? Can you confirm that you'll be there? - dan2 |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 07:56:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: ROM Upgrade In-Reply-To: Your message <199404080116.VAA00900@holmes.umd.edu> of Thu, 7 Apr 1994 21:07:07 EDT hey now, just droppin' a line to find out more about those vrave badges... let me know....you know? sunshyne universal groove productions ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 08:59:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Plasuredome ride from PA That's right, it turn out I'll be heading to the picnic from central PA around noon (to make the picnic). I'll be heading down 11/15 to 87 which goes all the way to Baltimore. If anyone needs a ride, I have space available. Email me here or call me at (717)523-5213. -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 06:29:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: timely article...... maybe they're all pinheads?! ------- adding to the bandwidth ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 05:55:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , COLONEL Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: COLONEL Subject: how do I subscribe to the calendar how do i subscribe to the calnedar if you have on going, thanks ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:13:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: info on 1.8.7 In-Reply-To: Your message <199404081305.JAA03657@holmes.umd.edu> of Fri, 8 Apr 1994 06:29:07 -0500 brendan, this is just a 'lil thanks for the info about 1.8.7. i hope he gets back in touch with me soon. but right on, i'm really happy to see our community helping each other out, it's awesome! (but that's what it's all about right?) thanks again 8) sunshyne ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:19:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: how do I subscribe to the calendar In-Reply-To: Your message <199404081310.JAA03728@holmes.umd.edu> of Fri, 8 Apr 1994 05:55:06 -0400 colonel, i don't have all my net info wit me right here, but i think this is how it goes... send email to: then in the body, type just this: subscribe ne-raves-calendar. i think thats how it works, though i may have messed something up, but i think it's right. try it.. sunshyne universal groove productions ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:17:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: P-909 (not) at pleasuredome to make a long story short, we were dicked around a bit too much by the promotors regarding our show and it ended up just not being worth hauling all the gear down for what would have turned out to be a pointless show. i'm trying not to be too pissed off... so, i'm still going to see dietrich spin. i'm *really* bummed out we're not playing... but, hopefully again in the near future so you all can check us out. peace. >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:49:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: INFO: New Jersey Underground sounds sort of familiar..... :) Simple? anyone? 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 09:57:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: ROM Upgrade wait.... aircraft carrier rave???? is that "Synergy" that was in january? just wondering 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:06:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: well, chalk another off the PD lineup i've heard from a few reliable sources that Jason Jinx will NOT be at plesuredome...this is near-confirmed fact, not speculative rumor.... -j/m1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:11:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: pleasure dome :( :( :( P909 NOT at pleasure dome.... where will you play??? i'm dying to see you guys live!!!! oh.... pooh! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:21:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: MOOs and MUDs In-Reply-To: <199404072159.RAA29051@holmes.umd.edu> >Hi all, > >I seem to remember a while back that there was a MUD or MOO where people >from the rave mailing lists were encouraged to hang out. Does anyone >know the address for this place? > >BTW, I'll be at Caffeine this Friday, wearing a Nervous Records t-shirt, >and I might put in a guest appearance at Motion as well. > >Virtually yours, >Bob "People go MOO and cows go moo" Baxter > >p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... >bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. >bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | >bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles > Hey, I encourage eveyone to hang out at LambdaMOO, which is available via telnet at LAMBDA.XEROX.COM. It's a very sophisticated MOO that's easy to use. If you try it, type CONNECT GUEST after the info screen look for me, MYG. It's fun, no doubt! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 10:44:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: ? poohey..8( s- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:15:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: hooray for brenden! hey now, i'd like to take a minute of everyone's time to that brenden has got to be the coolest cat i've met in a while! (yea brenden!!!). he's single handedly hooked me up with 2 extremely talented artists for my event (plug: nirvana may 28th detroit...post today...). thanks again and again brenden, you're aok! *boy is sunshyne stoked!* sunshyne universal groove productions ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 12:48:26 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? Cybertribe, Jenn-bug (Jennifer Smeddy) and Xiola (Shelly) will be working the smart bar adn I will be dancing all night and chilling with them. There's three more net-ravers at Pleasure Dome. See you all there. Peace, Mars (Marshal Villarosa) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:50:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Brian Ayo Knowles Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Brian Ayo Knowles Subject: Re: pleasuredome anyone? In-Reply-To: <199404080107.VAA00850@holmes.umd.edu> from "danFREELove" at Apr 7, 94 09:05:14 pm > > On Wed, 6 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > > Me > You > Joe > Derek > Rainbow > BDFM (go figure ;) ) > Rush Limbaugh (well, maybe not) > > Dan > > "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott > Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud > You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam > You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu Rush Limbaugh!!! I'm there man!!! :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:02:57 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: timely article...... Don't panic, Terence, the "Zippy" article in _Wired_ wasn't your typical media-hype. Zippy stands for "zen-influenced (uh, something-or-other) pagans" and refers to what has happened sub-culturally in the UK when the Travelers and the Ravers combined. They just want to have a happy existence without the English government bothering them all the time. They are interested in peace., love, unity, fun, nature and technology. THey Do whatever they like -- their socio- economic background ranges from complete slackers to computer people to doctors and lawers to students to miusicians and artists. Sorry for the hrrible typing but my net connection is too slow to go back and fix my mistakes. Anyway, I was the article as being positive without being hyper-active cool bandwagoinish. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:09:53 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , heather landers Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: heather landers Subject: living room can someone please give me the info on living room?? it is a weekly right?? thanks- zoie :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 11:14:51 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: how do I subscribe to the calendar The claendar is not currently running off of umdd.umd.edu To get on the calendar mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu and put subscribe ne-raves-cal in the body of the message Laura ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 13:52:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dougie Fresh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dougie Fresh Organization: The American University Subject: Pre-Pleasuredome PIC-NIC O.K. here is some final information for the picnic. Im pushing this so hopefully you can get it before heading out for the weekend. First off I might need a ride from the picnic to Rob's because i hopefully will be able to sequesture two 1200's and a mixer from school here ;) but here is the important stuff: I was planning on having people show up around between 4:00pm and 4:30 p.m.Rebecca (beccamd) will be there around 4 pm and hopefully I will be also as ill be heading down earlier to check out the festivities around there and some of the blossoms too with my camera :) nuk nuk But anyways we shall be meeting on the Mall in Washington D.C. The place to meet would be where we did it last year in front of the door of the Washington Monument. This will be a BYOT(things) event so i will be bringing some of my own stuff as well as anything else anyone would like: that would include toys, food, more toys more food, blankets, anything you'd think would be cool. Then when it gets dark Rob C. has offered to open his house to chill out and possibly have some tables set up for people to spin upon :) until people are set to head to pleasuredome. If you are driving to D.C.: from the North/West/East: Take I-95/270/ to the Beltway (I-495) and from there head East it is until you reach the Baltimore/Washington Parkway heading into D.C. Keep your eye on the lookout for U.S. Route 50 and take that exit into D.C. Route 50 will turn into New York Avenue and just continue to follow New York Avenue for approximately 4 miles. After you pass N. Capitol Street start counting the numbered streets up from 1. When you hit 14th street take a left and continue down. This road should take you right by the Washington Monument. Just look for parking. From South: Take I-95 to I-395 and take the exit to get onto Route 1 U.S. (or 14th Street) and you should be near the Washington Monument. Of course if these directions turn out to make no sense at all (which is entirely possible) then just ask anyone how to get to the Washington Monument. If you want to park somewhere and take the METRO downtown: One place you can park at a METRO station is the Greenbelt stop at the end of the Green line and just off the beltway. take the METRO to the Smithsonian stop which is on either the Orange or Blue lines. When you get off at the Smithsonian stop take the exit that puts you on the MALL. Once outside look for the big phallic symbol and make your way there! The whole area around the mall will look REALLY beautiful this weekend since there will be in full bloom the cherry blossoms so it should be very crowded, so remember that when you try and park down there. if people have questions direct them to me. People who are also helping me put this together are Rob C (robcamp@seas.gwu.edu) and beccaMD (rc3116a@american.edu) IF you have questions and need someone to call Becca will be at her house in MD till around 2pm on Saturday. Her phone # is (301) 229-0833 I hope that a lot of people can make it! We're already expecting at least 20 people so the more the better! doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:43:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: watch out! they're dropping like flies.... well, i posted earlier that jason jinx will not be spinning at PD.... unfortunatly, it turns out that there are even more big names to add to the list....these are all from *reliable* sources, so dont flame me about making up anti-PD propoganda...im just letting you know what ive heard... ok...jason jinx, keoki, james christian, and dimitry have all been contracted to plat at RELEASE in south carolina (they have the same manager), so the chances of them being at PD seems slim...hmmmmmm supposedly, this is another example of when you put people on the flyers before asking them.... and P909 isnt playing either... but all is not lost: make sure you check out some of the others-netters 187, derek, rainbow, and speed demon will bee in full effect...make sure you support your netfamily! and there are still other big names that MIGHT be there (ive heard rumors but nothing concrete) damn....and i was once psyched about PD :( it pains me to see this fall through -jason/m1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:46:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: pleasure dome meeting inside In-Reply-To: <9404080206.AA03566@acad.csv.kutztown.edu> On Thu, 7 Apr 1994, Rebecca A. Cochran wrote: > I will be making a sign at Kinko's tomorrow! I will put it on really loud and o > bnoxious paper so everyone can find it! Jenn-bug, your idea (as usual) is a goo > d one. the smart bar! everyone stop by, have your picture taken by me, and give > me your address...:) I DO send out copies to those who request it...:) hope to > see bunches of you there! > BeccaMD > Sounds great becca!! :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:48:12 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: meeting place at motion (&caffeine friday) well, i think that the speaker stack closest to the dj on the dj's right is a good place to meet up initially, seeing as we have no other landmark info. then we can choose another place to go hang at.... so what about meeting on the odd hours: 1:00, 3:00 becca and i will be there, and will-e, and a few other people....... also for caffeine tonight, i never have been there, but i guess that we could meet up around the same area (speakers closest to dj) in the main room im 6ft tall, blond hair w/a ring in my nose. ill hopefully be wearing a *BIG* smile...if you see me, approach! sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:57:07 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: watch out! they're dropping like flies. just a ? when i talked to james christian last weekend he said he was spinning at motion, not pd, and not in south carolina.....what's up with this? he's booked in 3 places now? or is it four? confused sprockett ps..ill talk to him tonight and get the info from the horses mouth. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 14:54:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: N A S A Online #3 My normal internet connection is down, so here is a abbreviated version of Online #3 ****************************************** Tonight, Friday 4/8/94 The Living Room E3rd Street between Ave B & C INFO 212-330-8233 DB - SOUL SLINGER - DIMITRI ON-E - RYDE Comfort for you and yor friends. ************************************* BOOM '94 April 16th - Manhattan Location Trippy Video Cool Lighting Double Sound System Live internet hook up. If you want to be a Cybernaut (piloting the net hook-up) mail me @ woof@panix.com ****************************************** woof (with a Cybernautically challenged connection) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:05:59 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: pleasure dome In-Reply-To: <199404081106.HAA02866@holmes.umd.edu> ~ On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Dan Nicholson wrote: > Jason Szostek writes: > > > Ravers, > > Sorry but I'm afraid P909 will NOT be playing at Pleasure Dome. > > ARGH!!! ARGH! NOOOOOOO! > > Care to say why? > > What's next? 1.8.7 pulling out? I sure as hell hope not! Joe? Can you > confirm that you'll be there? Sorry this is so late but my net connection was down for most of the day. 187 will indeed be there. All of us. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:15:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: good techno on cd hi gang, if you're interested in good techno, some of it is actually making to disc. surprisingly, the big *houses* are releasing it, i.e. columbia, sony, etc. usualy they confined themselves to the cheese artists, but i had a good couple of comps at the station early this week and was surprised. how to tell the good comp. from the bad? look at back of the disc which credits the original artist and label. recognize a label, you might try it. the weekly faq will be out soon, i've sent it out for content proofing to several tribers. haZard ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:39:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Fiend <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: meeting place at motion (&caffeine friday) hey i might be going.. i know will-e and phil, so if they are chillin wit ya i'll find ya.. im not sure what im doing yet tho, so who knows.. the fiend ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:45:06 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: DIRECTIONS FOR ESCAPE VELOCITY okay folks here's the ESCAPE VELOCITY DIRECTIONS! the site is the KENTUCKY HORSE PARK, the STEEPLECHASE BARN. (tarmacked floor) chillout room off to side, incredible weather has made us do the second room OUTSIDE. it is 1/8 a mile from EXIT 120 off of I-75 (ironworks pike, ky horse park) this exit is only a few miles north of where the merged I-64 & I-75 split to go west & north, respectively. you can find it easily on a map. YOU CAN BRING A SLEEPING BAG & CRASH OUT but tents probably won't fly. we will arrange crash space. bring food & show up by 8, hear richie spin on the radio piped over our very, very loud system. there is a house (pre) party friday night at 11, call the voicemail. tix are $2 for netravers (not my gig, but Jace is cool) for directions call the voicemail at 606.281.4193 to hear a harried jsquared call my home 606.253.1376 to page me (thru my roomie's pager) call 606.224.6556 and end your phone number with "911". I WILL NOT BE CHECKING EMAIL UNTIL TUESDAY AFTER A LONG NAP... so if ya gotsta, leave a message on the voicemail can't wait, can't wait. this event will be huge -> i will let you bums in free on ONE CONDITION. that despite the size of this thing we build a vibe. pez, jsquared ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 15:47:05 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: list of NETRAVERS attending EV okay, I'll check my email saturday at 9am... after that, the list closes... so far: china (r3kd@uakron.edu) cheli walters (CMW4319@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU) and her friends jason jerry jamie Geoff Adams Dan the List God Tony Ramos (inter\active) Jack Wood Michael Minnich Jenn Leibhart BleachBoy < MOOREWD@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu> danFREELove Rich, friend of christopher Lourdes Cantu (lourdes/daisy sunshine) Monochrome Mandy McGouirkmy (blue/gert) Paul (Acid Toy) Natalie J Olkwitz (Silly Little Buttercup) Jodie Ann Parmenter Chuck Adler (NEd!/Snappleboy!) Erin Fleming (fleminee2) s.i.r. (sinister ice raver) Steve Hormell (fluffhead) Chris Jones (litho) Amy Dubin (kittyjive) Stephen Hindman (stephen) <00117117@ysub.ysu.edu> Andy Tannehill (novamass) Sean Kelly Mike Brown (ambient+@osu.edu) Sho Kuwamoto Orpheus23 Maxxima Thule (Trevor Wicked) Devin Gray (TriPtoNitE) Bill Frain Ethan Haslett (abulafia) Andy Cerutti Amy Walczak (piglet) Andrew Bennett Joel (Speed Phreak) (3KY2TOSIJ@vmsf.csd.mu.edu) Anthony G Cammara (Tigger) Don Moore (BleachBoy) Jay Wells (Soysos) Gregory Winer Dave Siegel Wayne and Chris Roscoe Stan Leimer (Trance God) Elod Horvath ('E') Robert Smith (Detroit Kick Drum Machine) Boris Mary (Sasha) Konstantin Vilenchitz (Kosmik!) Joseph Hunter Andrew J. Ford (Astroboy) Allison Thurman James Dallas Moore (Akim) Jim Soria Brandy Jefgrote (strobe) Michael J. Knight Sypher Randy Dudley Lydia Sharp (lsharp) Jason Leder (method one) Rique Curtis (Fujiyama Mo) Doug Fisher (Lane) <3ky7fisherd@vms.csd.mu.edu> Hossam El-Saie (Sphinx) Esona (Ed E) Kathleen Strickland (kat) Andrew Bennett (abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu) Mike Butler (quest@iac.net) Jen Palmer (Jpalmer@iac.net or something like that) Todd Sines (~ = sinewave) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:29:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Techno Manifesto From trstrick@phoenix Mon Aug 8 18:04:24 1994 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1993 17:06:50 -0400 From: "Terence R. Strick" To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Techno Manifesto I just bought another SpiralTribe CD; here is their Techno Manifesto: Read this first!: Be aware that your nervous system is now channeling a Spiral Tribe communication. Last chance: Be warned some of you may not wish to input the following data. If you should wish to contiue beyond this point you may be entering unfamiliar territrory, if in doubt please terminate communication now. To proceed please enter next level. To access next level: please note that without positive alignment we will not be able to connect you please follow simple alignment procedure. To enter: 1-Walk, stand, sit or lie straight. Balance yourself. Breathe deeply. relax. 2-Use any method you like to clear your mind & your system. Open up 3-Concentrate on the following sequence. Say it out loud or under your breath it doesn't matter which. Repeat sequence nine times. Start sequence: "Code Twenty-three, access all areas". Note: In areas of poor reception please relocate and try again. Enter send: If sequence has been entered correctly you will not have programmed the upper communication circuit of your brain to activate the send signal. To access next level: attune your sensory circuits to maximum range focus your conscious self out of your past & possilbe futures and into the positive moment. Please note: negativity will interfere with all transmissions. To minimise interference realise that you are a positively charged entity, all your life circuits are powered by the flow of positive energy. Ready to receive: if procedure has been followed correctly you will now be ready to receive further communications. Transmissions operate on all sensory channels. Be aware and responsive. There may be a time delay due to operating conditions. Remember: communications work both ways. The energy must flow freely. Via this transmission we have established contact with you, recognize the 23 signal it is everywhere tune in to it and return our call. You have the technology now learn how to use it. The only way forward is to grow - The only way to grow is to expand beyond the boundaries of what we know into the unchartered areas of the unknown - The unknown being the only source of new knowledge - Our life support systems on this planet are organic - To regenerate cell walls divide & multiply - Old barriers fall away, ancient pillars crumble & new structures stand in their turn - One generation gives birth to the next - The old gives life to the new - We live in the ever transitional moment - Connecting past through present to future - It is our mission to discover the ever changing horizon - To continually re-establish new parameters & to explore & secure each new level as we find it - It is our purpose to destroy the inertia that has been responsible for the demise of the life force on our planet - It is our aim to positively motivate the people & the nation - IT IS TIME TO WAKE THE PLANET UP! WE ARE ALL ONE TRIBE = WE COME TOGETHER AND WORK AS ONE = WE TRAVEL THE EARTH SHARING ALL THAT IS OURS = THE NEW HIGH SPEED INFORMATION IS FOR ALL TO HEAR = TECHNO COMBINES DIGITAL TECHNOLOGY WITH THE ORGANIC LIFE SYSTEMS AND IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE FORM OF MUSIC TO DATE = NON VERBAL AND NON LINEAR THE PULSING ENERGY OF TECHNO BREAKS ALL BARRIERS IN COMMUNICATION = OPENING UP NEW CHANNELS IN HUMAN CONSCIOUSNESS IT TRANSCENDS THE TERRESTRIAL DIMENSION AND CONNECT US WITH OUR FUTURES = AT FULL VOLUME THE RESONANCE AND RHYTHM OF SOUND INPUTS THE EXTRA ENERGY REQUIRED TO JOLT THE HUMAN SENSORY CIRCUITS UP INTO THE NEXT LEVEL, FROM THE TERRESTRIAL TO THE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL = AS WITH THE MUSIC WE ARE EVER CHANGING, ADAPTING TO THE EVER PRESENT TRANSITIONAL MOMENT = THRU COMING TOGETHER WE DISCOVER A NEW UNITY AND MANIFEST A NEW REALITY BUT FIRST WE MUST BLOW THE OLD BARRIERS AWAY THERE WAS A TIME = THERE IS A TIME = THERE WILL BE TIME AGAIN @@@ SPIRAL TRIBE @@@ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:37:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@IUP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: ***187*** i KNEW that would get your attention... ummm i am not on the little hom thingy. but, i will be at pleasuredome... i will be dancing for joe, :) i would like to meet everyone, so, if you see me say hello! (pleeessse!) im the red head! :) i think i will be at the pre-picnic, soo... i guess i will see everyone there! *boy.. im soooo excited* be careful plur **michelle ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:37:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Kudo's to J2 I think it is kewl as hell that part of our net ( J Squared ) is kewl enough to give so many of the cybertribe so much PLUR! I have never met him or even talked to him and I can't make Escape Velocity :( but from what I have seen so far it seems that he just keeps on giving the tribe lots of love. How many promotors let in SO MANY net folks for free? How many promotors open up the space before hand to allow the cybertribe to chill out with some of the DJ's? He is even offering places for people to crash if they bring their sleeping bags? WOW! I don't see a money grubbing person here. I see somebody who is trying to help the scene with kindess and love! That's what it is supposed to be about! Even though I can't make the party I wish him the best of luck for this event and other upcoming events in the future. Good luck and thanks for the PLUR go out to J squared! Noj...throwing in his .02 cents! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 16:56:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: yes, it's true the "glow" event that we have been talking about for just about every saturday since fucking february, does not yet have a day to call it's own. we are in the process of finding the appropriate location that will fit what we want to do, and we do have leads. it will take some time to pan these out though, so don't worry, we will all "glow" together. and we are also trying to make sure that everything works best to get all of us net ravers together. there's been a lot of anger-tone chatter lately, but i think we make up the group that is going to keep this whole thing together. so just keep in mind that what we do is about two things and two things only: freedom and expression. (music and dance are both under expression) ultraworld out. "....we shall suffer no tyranny of the mind." Jefferson ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:03:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Veronica E. Martins" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Veronica E. Martins" Subject: ****** PLEASUREDOME DIRECTIONS ******** From points north of Baltimore: Take 95 South Take the 895 branch toward Annapolis/Bay Bridge Take the exit for Moravia Boulevard (Pulaski Highway) Take a left at the light Take the second exit on the right. The first exit is for 95 South. Do no take. Take the second exit. The exit is unmarked, but will take you to Pulaski Highway West. Follow one mile to the Erdman Ave. West exit. Follow Erdman Ave through 2 lights Venue is on the left. From points south of Baltimore: Take 95 North Go through the Ft. Mchenry Tunnel Take the Pulaski Highway East exit Take a U turn at the first light Follow 2 miles west Take the Erdman Ave. West exit Go through 2 lights Venue is on the left. See you there..... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 18:09:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Veronica E. Martins" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Veronica E. Martins" Subject: ****** More Pleasuredome Directions ******* Hi - If I forgot to post the address of the venue, here goes : 4411 Erdman Ave. Baltimore. Bye.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:01:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , HARREJ@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HARREJ@DELPHI.COM Subject: A *RIDE* to Pleasure Dome Peoples... The people I were going to take to PD backed out at the last moment...SO I have space for 3 people tomorrow (sorry for the late notice all) I've been on Spring Break and away from my NE-Raves acct so I haven't been seeing the posts. Either way...if you are interested drop me a line at HARREJ@Delphi.COM To be honest, I've never driven to or into Baltimore B4 so a person who knows there way around would be a big plus %) I'm in DC, upper-northwest, Friendship Heights Metro. P.L.U.R., Apocalypse ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:22:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: watch out! they're dropping like flies.... In-Reply-To: <94Apr8.154524edt.66828-1@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "LEDERJASO%URVAX.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" at Apr 8, 94 3:43 pm > > ok...jason jinx, keoki, james christian, and dimitry have all been ^^^^^ well, just to add to the confusion....a friend of mine was talking to keoki himself and said he will defiently be in baltimore...my firend offered him a ride but keoki declined. anywayz...hope not all of you are as confused as i am =) > contracted to plat at RELEASE in south carolina (they have the same > manager), so the chances of them being at PD seems slim...hmmmmmm > harmon-e _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 20:37:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: watch out! they're dropping like flies.... I called the Solid INFO line today and there was NO mention of Jason Jinx, Keoki, or James Christian. Those that ARE mentioned are : Dmitry, Joey Beltram, Jacquelyn Christie, Mike Reynolds and John Knorr The Solid INFO line hasn't announced who or if there are going to be any special guest DJ's. I guess we could always keep our fingers crossed for J. Jinx, Keoki, and James Christian though :) I just know that I'll be there :) Have a safe weekend everybody! Love ya. NOJ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 8 Apr 1994 23:51:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: N A S A - Online #3 N A S A ONLINE #3 4/8/94 ************************************************* BOOM '94 MANHATTAN LOCATION APRIL 16TH 1994 INFO LINE 212-330-8233 FOR TICKET LOCATION AND INFO DJ Line up as of 4/5/94 SPUN from Wicked Crew (SF) - MOBY - JIMMY CRASH DB - ON-E - RYDE & JOESKI - SUN from Ultraworld MR. KLEEN - ENTITY (Ultraworld) + SCOTTO LIVE! - VAPOUR SPACE It's Earth Day and The 51st aniversary of Albert Hoffman's Bike ride. Trippy Video (Many Layers of PHUN) By The NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE fun@well.sf.ca.us Lighting programming by SCOTTO and YOURS TRULY woof@panix.com LIVE IRC HOOK UP (see separate posting) Mail to woof@panix.com for info on how to sign up to jack in @ BOOM '94 ************************************************* Every Friday THE LIVING ROOM 238 East 3rd Street NYC 212-343-0532 Comfort for you and your friends THIS FRIDAY 4/8/94 DB - SOUL SLINGER - DIMITRI ON-E - RYDE ************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 01:43:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: A *RIDE* to Pleasure Dome In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 8 Apr 1994 19:01:28 -0400 from a ride?? hmm, I could use one of those!! it seems that the person I was origina lly going with has had a change of plans.....so if you could contact me, I can get you round and about in Balto...and are you going to the pre-picnic?? call m e tonight or tomorrow before 2pm or meet me at the picnic.....301 229 0833 BeccaMD :) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 10:29:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: PleasureDome to Escape Velocity Hello everyone.. I just want to apologize to everyone who was expecting me at Pleasure Dome. I had been planning on going to Pleasure Dome with great certainty for a long time, but an opportunity has presented itself for me to get out to EV for minimal cost (very important to poor-boy Dan) and see Allison. Jason got a PA out there and I am able to drive out with him. So, I won't be making it to PD. I still wish the party the best and hope 1.8.7 and all the net ravers the best at it, but breakdown for me is not about the party, just about seeing Allison and having enough $ to eat next month. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 17:22:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "michael schreiber address=MS5414@ark.ship" Subject: Meeting place during Pleasuredome Hi everyone! I am unable to attend the pre-picnic that will possibly be held before Pleasuredome, but I would like to still meet those cybertribe members who are going to this event. Therefore, it would be nice if we could all meet up somewhere during the event. Jenn-bug stated last week that maybe we could all meet-up at the smart bar which she is running, and I think that this would be a good idea since she is a cybertriber herself. If anyone has any suggestions or comments about this, please respond. Also, is it a good idea to have a meeting time? Please do not repsond to this message with your gripes, bitches, or rumors about the event, because enough time and space has been consumed already for that discussion. Plain and simple, if you don't feel that this event is going to be successful, don't go! I am going just because I get to finally see my faraway friends which I haven't seen since Resolution, and to get away from this shitty town. I can't to Motion or Escape Velocity because they are too faraway for me travel, so those are not alternatives which I can ponder. Hope to hear from ya soon! :) Michael Schreiber nosferatu/mikey ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 20:50:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NUT Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NUT Subject: Sorry if this is repetative My subscription and the rest of the people at my school isn't working. So I just resubscribed could someone send a message so I can see if this is working ? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 11:21:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: good techno on cd hmmmmmm for many months i was nearly forced to play CDs when i spun the major labels only send you the CDs and neglect the LPs and 12"s here's what I did.... (vinyl junkies take note) i wrote, called, and otherwise alerted the distribution companies to the "fact" that our DJs weren't playing some of the releases because they had little faith in them, they were prone to skipping, and vinyl gave much more control. the companies said "OH! We had no idea. We'll send the next batch on vinyl if you wish." bingo! we were set. the vinyl flowed in like water. it's RARE when we get a CD. CD-5s are not very common.... and everyone is happy! i warn DJs against relying on CDs... the music on them is usually second-rate, old, or horribly processed and mastered. they WILL skip when you don't want them to. since you have no visual quick-reference to see how much of the song is remaining.... you have to rely on a digital timer which is still not much help. don't get me wrong: good techno does exist on CD... but from my experience and the experiences of many others I know.... better music exists on LP. input? anyone? 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:21:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Schreiber Subject: pleasuredome meeting place inside :) Well , I posted something about meeting at the rave inside, but much to my dismay I don't think it got there. Anyways, I agree that we should meet at Jenn's smart bar. A couple of net-ravers said we would meet at midnight there, so hope to see more of you there. If anyone is going to the pre-party, pass this message on. Thanks Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu nosferatu/mikey ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:28:35 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: sherlock ("lonnie") holmes hey kids, just got the p.d. directions, so i'm going to play intrepid detective and take a drive over to the space to check it out! it's only about 4 minutes from my house, so no, i'm not going OUT OF MY WAY to get there. (sorry for shouting that, but i don't want to be accused of trying to be negative by going to see the space) anyway, i'll report back within a few hours and let eveybody know what's up. don't worry though, i'm not going to spoil any surprises they might have by telling you about them. peace ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 13:58:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Neighbours must hate me!!! If you're in Baltimore....and walking down a quiet neighbourhood.... and happen to hear Opus III blasting from every window in a house that's rattling and shaking and about to explode..to such a point where the house itself looks like it's dancing and bouncing and happy...... Come in and give me a hug!!!! :) Melzie aka the Snuggly Bouncy Happy Flirty Cheesecake from HOUSEland! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 15:11:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: MOOs and MUDs In-Reply-To: <199404081425.KAA04709@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Michael Francois (SHA) wrote: > >I seem to remember a while back that there was a MUD or MOO where people > >from the rave mailing lists were encouraged to hang out. Does anyone > >know the address for this place? I know some MUD addresses that are supposed to be very good according to techno-art-symbiotic types that I know so I must find where I scrawled the addressed down soon. Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 15:12:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404091522.LAA11954@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 9 Apr 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > i warn DJs against relying on CDs... > the music on them is usually second-rate, old, or horribly processed and > mastered. > they WILL skip when you don't want them to. > since you have no visual quick-reference to see how much of the song is > remaining.... you have to rely on a digital timer which is still not much > help. okay, input....everything you said above is wrong :) mostly. i'm surprised you'd say most of this stuff about cd's. the only reason that dj's don't spin cd's (and a lot of club dj's *do*) is because not nearly as much stuff comes out on cd, nor as quickly as on vinyl. records are more prone to skip and be pressed badly, warped, or just plain ol' worn down. if it was as easy to cue and do all the tricks of the vinyl dj on cd, and everything that came out on vinyl came out on cd, then you'd see everyone spinning cd's. the sound is more reliable. and as far as not knowing how much of the song is remaining, any good cd player will have pitch control and will show how much of the song is remaining. informatively chris :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. 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Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 15:31:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: good techno on cd well actually some of the techno cd's at our station do skip, e.g. trance-europe express, juno reactor, om. i thought maybe it was just the cd player, but other cd's don't skip in the player. then i thought maybe the low freq at loud monitor volumes was bouncing the cd in the player too much. so i find it interesting that someone else noted *skippy* techno cd's, but i would suspect that a better cd player may be the solution. personally, i still prefer vinyl. it has that certain "je ne sais quoi!" haZard ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 12:56:46 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: good techno on cd 1000 complains about CDs and asks for input. My input is get a better CD player. I've heard a number of DJs playing good fresh non-skipping tunes on CD enough times to truly believe that the vinyl versus CD argument is silly and moot. Tim Ryan (anyone remember his otherworldly set at LIFE in November of 1992??) is a prime good example. De-Cay from Virginia (actually Germany -- is he even still around?) is another. Now, I also know that the earlier releases of the Stanton dual DJ CD player had software and hardware problems, I've heard about these enough to wonder if that is what your opinion is based on. My roommate buys at least as many CDs as I do vinyl, and he gets good recent tunes (stuff that comes out the same time I see it on vinyl) and we've never heard one to be of inferior sound quality or one that skipped. I personally still DJ with vinyl mainly because that's where I started and that's where I'll stay since I don't feel like converting my record collection over. Also, the VAST majority of DJ booths don't have real DJ cd players and I don't particularly feel like hauling one around San Francisco or trust it to be checked on the plane when I fly out to gigs in Denver or Albequerque or wherever. It is true that a number of labels never press to CD so by choosing CDs you limit yourself in some respects, but there is so much music out there that it almost doesn't matter. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 16:45:47 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djmrbill Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: good techno on cd This is my input on CD's: You can (with a good CD mixer) have a lot of fun mixing with CD's, and at considerable ease. It should have pitch control (duh), and keep the timer set so that it shows how much time per track is left. As far as CD's skipping, I've never had much of a problem with that. Perhaps its the CD itself, and not necessarily the mixer... BUT the big problem with CD's, and why we tend to shy away from them is this: NO HANDS-ON MANIPULATION. You can't spin them backwards, scratch them, or much else. You can't even touch them. Someone should invent a CD mixer with a round pad that would simulate the turntable itself. Then, however you manipulated the round pad, it would manipulate the CD... thus, you could scratch, or spin back the CD to make those pretty effects... OR, just get rid of CD's, and go back to vinyl (I wish!). Eat it up, yum, yum!!! ...anyways, those are just my thoughts... DJ Mr Bill djmrbill@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 17:00:11 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: PONG Please add this to the ROM: Pong Technology Counsel in association with Borrowed Productions present P O N G April 15, 1994 10pm - 2 am (after hours possible) (401) 863-2925 beats by Gravity Fresh Blend live performance by Perfessor [sic] Shea and his ostinado device visuals by Ja-shwa, Krispy Kris, Springarnkoff, Mr. Yee Two video rooms, dancefloors with live projection feeds, trully live graphics with audience participation, and quadrophonic sound. Location: List Gallery, College st., Providence, RI Directions from points South and North: Take I-95 towards Providence Once in Providence vicinity, take I-195 East exit Once on I-195 East, take *exit 1* on right Once off of the ramp, take the first right over a bridge Take a left at the stoplight Take the first right Go straight up the hill List Gallery will be the second building on the left at the top of the hill, on College st. That's it, kids. This is a small event being put together by some people in the music department here at school. Let me note that from the sound of it, this event will be extremely heavy on visuals, although I'm still not completely sure how complicated and involving they'll be. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 19:06:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT~!!!!! @#%$&*^%$#%^*(^&*@(&(#@$*)#%^&$%^^@$#%!$^ FUCK THE I TOLD YOU SO'S AND ALL THE OTHER BULLSHIT THAT WE COULD OBVIOUSLY SAY RIGHT NOW. PLEASURE DOME IS CANCELLED- WHO GIVES A SHIT WHY. GET ON THE PHONE TO ANYONE YOU KNOW AND MAKE SURE THEY DON'T MAKE ANY WASTED TRIPS. I just talked to a few guys from montreal who arrived in d.c., and once again, these fucking ignorant assholes have managed to make our scene look completely stupid. they are going to complain about building owners showing them applications for permits and saying that he had the permits. but i know I would have been on the phone with the city WEEKS ago, not DAYS ago to find out what the fucking truth was, and to confirm whether or not the permits were there. so if anyone has any ideas on what the fuck we're all going to do tonight, somebody call me 410.522.6933 i may have some ideas of my own too, give me a few hours. next time, please listen to your friendly promoters, and don't jump on their case when they are trying to look out for all of our interests. hopefully we'll see each other tonight somewhere. maybe tracks at 4 am :) lieven may possibly be trying to get the buzz space so check with them. and hey, let's all get together tommorrow during the day in baltimore. either at patterson park or maybe we'll take a sound system to the point. use the phone at this point, we need quick response. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:13:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: TONIGHT SAT.!! I just found out that EBN is doing a gig here, and there will be a DJ (lo-cal, from Philly) spinning til 3 or 4 afterwards. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED: call me @ (609) 258-7105 so that I can hook you up with a pass. This is in Princeton, NJ. PEace, Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:29:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT~!!!!! i can't believe the scene took a hit like this. i can't believe that bus trippers are going to get hosed and promoters, especially bus trip organizers, are going to take a hit. i cannot even begin to imagine the fall out from this. i hope it ain't true or something worked out in the end. haZard ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 22:58:12 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: Raver909 Where are you? Joe, Becca is at Rob's. Call 202.667.4721 We will be going to Raveland II (That's Tracks at 4am) If you make it down to DC we're at 1756 Columbia Rd. NW, Apt 401 "The Elizabeth" is the name of the building. Doug brought the turntables, and he's spinning right now. - Rob ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 20:21:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: eek! it's cancelled! as of 8:20, pleasure dome is cancelled. sorry...i hate it as much as you.... *cry* good thinking melzie! =) harmon-e _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 23:57:52 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: eek! it's cancelled! Now, the lineup and location is well worth the seven bucks they are asking so have fun at tracks (and this is in all seriousness) too bad this whole fiasco will taint all other promoters and the entire scene as a whole here in Dc/Balt know your promoters and whether you can trust them..... john ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 9 Apr 1994 21:14:20 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: GOD FUCKING DAMN IT~!!!!! I can speculate on the fall out of PD being cancelled: no one will go to Baltimore/DC unless it's an Ultraworld party or something small and underground like John G.'s MUSE event. Lonnie, as far as I can tell from being around the past two years, has kept his reputation clean and I'm sure based on his personal reputation people will still trust him enough to book at and go to his events. I don't think it's the end of the world that PD got canned. In fact, I think it's just the final nail in the deserved coffin of PDs organizers. Things will go on. And if no one can throw mega-parties any more, then there's always the renegade do-it-yourself parties like MGP. There will be more events, don't worry :-) There are enough good promoters and organizers in the DC area that people are able to seperate the bad eggs from the ones that have been doing fun positive things, so it's not like DC/Baltimore has anything to be ashamed of. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 00:44:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: PleasureDome (GOD F'IN ETC.) In-Reply-To: <199404100414.AAA14897@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 9 Apr 1994, Laura La Gassa wrote: > Lonnie, as far as I can tell from being around the past two years, has > kept his reputation clean and I'm sure based on his personal reputation > people will still trust him enough to book at and go to his events. Indeed. I would go as far to say outstanding, give the boy a pat on the back. > I don't think it's the end of the world that PD got canned. In fact, I > think it's just the final nail in the deserved coffin of PDs organizers. I bloody hope so. Just goes to show that people were right in asking people to question the intentions of those involved. As I said before in answer to "support our scene" - thats not my fuckin scene. Let me just repost something which I purposely held onto: > Article 22993 of alt.rave: > Subject: Re: PleasureDoom > Date: 3 Apr 1994 19:33:14 -0400 > > Dylan Laas Drazen (ddrazen@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu) wrote: > > : I've been hearing people saying that April 9th's Pleasure Dome in DC will > : bust...or something like that..anyone know of such a thing?? > > It's not true. frag it all. > Pleasuredome will be good if not great. There are a few people who like > to go around spreading rumours on the net. I guess this makes them feel > good or superior. > Go figure. As for me, I know where I'll be. > Joe ---- Eat your fuckin words.. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) flu'id (floo'-) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 04:42:56 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: an evening w/friends (god f**king damn.. well, the pre-picnic was a blast, if a bit on the cool side...we had about 20 p eople show up (sorry we missed you Raver909) we left the Mall at about 6:15pm a nd headed out to Robcamp's place. Myself, Ferg and a couple of other people wen t over to Music (fuck me) Now to get a ticket, which was when we found out abou t the cancellation. :( So we went to Rob's to share the news. Everyone looked kinda bummed, some we re angry, and all of us felt really bad for the ravers that had traveled distan ce to get to here. I for one will not be attending any event put on by these pe ople. I have heard too many things, and have now seen that they are indeed true . I mean I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt...but this bites! Kudos to Music Now for getting Tracks (Raveland 2 anyone?), but it just is n't the same. I am not attending tracks tonight, I just dont have the vibe in m e. However the time spent at Rob's was most enjoyable. Doug, JustPlainDerek, a nd Rainbow spun. We had food with us, and great group of people. So Rob, when' s he next underground mini-rave gonna be?? ;) I hope that everyone enjoyed their time at Escape Velocity, but please exc use me if I simply delete the wonderful posts that I am sure will come flooding through my mail. I did see the flyers for SM4. I will NOT be going. I am not i nterested or financially able to attend. I am however thinking of going out to the mid-west for Further...that is a 3-day event. And so far it sounds pretty o ssum :) Sorry I missed seeing all of you at PD....but I will return to the East Coast in the Fall...so watch for me then...I may attend Timewarp, but I am not at all sure yet. Anyone else going?? PLUR, BeccaMD :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 11:18:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404091522.LAA11954@holmes.umd.edu> from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 9, 94 11:21:52 am > i warn DJs against relying on CDs... > [...] > better music exists on LP. > > input? anyone? This issue has been beaten to death too many times to count. Spin whatever format you like. Spin 8-tracks if that's what you prefer. What matters is what comes out of the speakers, not how it gets there. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 11:25:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404091932.PAA12659@holmes.umd.edu> from "brendan mcdougall" at Apr 9, 94 03:31:54 pm > well actually some of the techno cd's at our station do skip, It's actually very rare that an actual defect in the CD causes uncon- ditional skipping. More likely it's the result of a tangential scratch which can probably be polished out with toothpaste and water. (Out of the 500+ CDs I own, only one has a defect that can be re- produced across multiple samples and multiple CD players.) -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 13:55:52 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: Matt Comments: Originally-From: Matt From: Matt Subject: PONG Hey, I made some corrections since I now have my hands on the complete flyer. Please add this to the ROM: Pong Technology Counsel in association with Borrowed Productions present a Techfest April 13-15, culminating in a multi-discipline dance P O N G "a video first" April 15, 1994 10pm - 2 am (after hours possible) (401) 863-2925 $3 at the door beats by Gravity Fresh Blend live performance by Perfessor [sic] Shea and his ostinado device visuals by Ja-shwa, Krispy Kris, Springarnkoff, Mr. Yee Two video rooms, dancefloors with live projection feeds, trully live graphics with audience participation, and quadrophonic sound. Location: List Gallery, College st., Providence, RI Directions from points South and North: Take I-95 towards Providence Once in Providence vicinity, take I-195 East exit Once on I-195 East, take *exit 1* on right Once off of the ramp, take the first right over a bridge Take a left at the stoplight Take the first right Go straight up the hill List Gallery will be the second building on the left at the top of the hill, on College st. That's it, kids. This is a small event being put together by some people in the music department here at school. Let me note that from the sound of it, this event will be extremely heavy on visuals, although I'm still not completely sure how complicated and involving they'll be. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 14:13:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Schreiber Subject: "We went everywhere, but didn't go anywhere" my PD experience Well, just go to show you that too much faith in promoters that fucked the last time, will screw you everytime. I made this mistake in believing in PD truthfulness and sincerity, but looked what happened. I wish I had really listened to some people, like Andy (sorry, for doubting you facerutt :0). Yet, out of all the problems, the night turned into an adventure, I never thought or believed would happen. Upon arriving at the place for PD, we found out after 20 minutes that the rave was at tracks, oooh yeh, great like I want to wait unitl 4 a.m. NOT! So we hung-around with the other ravers in the parking lot, trying to calm down, along with some who seemed to have taken their "candy" before they found out, thus not finding the reality to drive yet :). We met a girl from Harrisburg that one of my friends knew from Resolution and she told us about a small event going on outside of Harrisburg, PA. She said she would give us directions to it, or find the flier in her car after she passed out her other fliers. Well, after a few minutes we found her, and she seemed totally number. So, we headed back to PA after dropping off to stranded ravers from a convention they were at in Baltimore. We called the info line and some guy's dad answered and told us it was at aclub called Breakers' in Lancaster, and gave me simplified directions, which means "oh ,here's the best way to get lost". Little did he know, he was talking to the world's most stupid person with directions. We drove around forever, asked many gas attendants and went as far as Downington, PA, near the outskirts of PHilly. AHHHH! Finally, after screaming at my two friends in the car, because I was soo pissed, who by the way thought I was extremely funny, because I was the only one without "candy", we headed back to hicktown U.S.A-SHippensburg, PA. Oh., we almost pulled over to party with the strikers at a factory in Lancaster, because we passed them at least twice and they waved at us, and my friend Sean wanted to stop, yet we didn't. All in all, it goes to show ya that good things can come out of bad things, yet I didn't expect to put about 300 miles on my car and drive for at least 6 hours! Reflecting back, it was a learning experience because I realized what an ass I was for yelling at my friends in the car, for it was my fault for getting lost, and hell I could have really bugged them out, naahhhhhh, they were having a good fucking time, made me wish I wasn't driving and was in their seat. I didn't meet any netravers, and I was really bummed out about that, but we have decided that our journey must continue... next weekend.. deep space ?.. in baltimore, that is if I cna find info about it. Hope this post doesn't piss anyone off for being so long, yet there ain't no review of Pleasuredoom, just that it's in the sewer! PLUR< Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu nosferatu/mikey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 13:40:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: E-Motion (a review) The Motion party was held in Deer Park, Long Island, NY last night in a warehouse with polished concrete floors -- a great dance surface. he layout of the place looked something like this: [------------------------------------------------------] E | Restrooms Visuals | ^ | | N<--|-->S | | v | | W | | | | |Concession | | | | | |Tapes for sale | | | | | | Chillout area | | DJ Booth | | [ ----------------------------------------------------] Entrance The sound system seemed to be okay, although it didn't seem very loud, and I didn't get that feeling of bass flowing through my body. There were the ususal assortment of lights, fog machine etc. I arrived around 1 AM, meeting Fluffhead out in the parking lot. This was the DJ lineup from 1 AM till Motion ended, along with some comments about each: Tiga -- Have to get used to his playing style, I guess. Didn't seem to motivate the crowd too much. James Christian -- played an outstanding set, with lots of applause from the dancers. Jimmy Crash -- Hardcore, you know the score. I danced non-stop during his set. If it was possible to give someone a standing ovation, Jimmy would have received one. Frankie Bones -- started off kind of slow, with bland house, but after a third of the way through his set, he kicked in with some hardcore and hard trance that was great. Dave Trance -- another slow start, he bounced back and forth between hard and soft trance. Personally, I think he played a better set at Positive Energy. Micro -- what a great way to end the party. He played a little bit of everything, with good results. The after hours was held at Caffeine in Warehouse B. This got off to a slow start, and didn't begin until 8:45. The mood at the beginning seemd to be "wary", not too vibey, etc. It was fun and all, but I didn't seem to get that PLUR feel. Net-ravers in the house: Phil Z, Will-E, Liz Sprockett & BeccaMA + ? Me :) Steve (Fluff-head) + ? The Fiend + 2 friends Anyone else that I missed? I had a pretty good time at the main party, meeting a few new (non-net) people and giving lollipops and pixie sticks to stangers. :) Check out the R-O-M, as there were lots more flyers handed out at Motion for the NYC area. Virtually yours, Bob "No sleep for the last 31 hours" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 15:28:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Emergency Broadcast Network Saw their show last night. They do some really powerful video editing and mixing work. Kinda like watching Mystery Science Theater 2000 with some relatively cool music thrown in. A total post-modern experince :) There are 4 guys--the "singer MC", DJ, VJ and dude filming with a videocamera for future publicity, I assume. The VJ did a great job, the DJ too. The MC does little more than yell at the crowd though. It would be ok if you were supposed to understand what he is saying, but for the most part it was like being yelled at. His pupils didn't seem dilated though :) The live is a totally different ball game from the video. They did a "travesty" of a DEA bust, a piece on guns, violence, sex, racism, TV, homophobia, drugs, and so on. The music is hard to define, I guess, partly because I was so engrossed in the videos, and there was no room to dance anyway...Maybe like breaks & hip-hop with a strong driving beat, and some techno-y samples... Then this DJ from Philly called "lo-cal" came on. He did some ok breaks, but for the most part the music was just that-- lo-cal :( I must have heard some of his tracks two or three times in the 3 or four hours I was there. Lo-cal indeed. I think he spins at some club in Philly, but I didn't catch the name of the place. Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:06:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Mardi Gras in Sydney ( long, but good reading :) Hey Folks, I've finally got the time ( sort of ) and the offline mail reader ( now that I'm home in boston :) to write up a note about Mardi Gras in Sydney. This text is taken from a flyer distributed before and during the party and pretty well sums up the feel of the event :) As to the event itself - it was incredible - about 22-25,000 tickets so easily 20,000 people in three or four large dance halls. The atmosphere was incredible ( yeah, predomenantly gay/lesbian but they let us token-straits in too :) and walking around at about 3am the air was warm and the area ( Sydney Show Grounds ) was full of happy, larfing people smiling and chatting. A buzz everywhere. In the dance halls, the look was Exposure Wear ( and how! :). The girls I was dancing with were wearing g-strings, skimpy bras and crotchetted ( sp? ) pants - tiny bits of material in neat patterns and lots of smooth, firm flesh on display ( fantastic when you're hyper-tactile and loving :). Many happy memories of running hands up legs and butts while they ran their fingers over the brand - woooooooo - lots of other touchie-feelie too but that's another story :O :) Grant ( Spaceman Spliff (tm) ) Mardi Gras Quote: "The People.... The Things....." "The Things are also people!" "The People.... The - other People...." -----------8<-----------8< Do Dat Snip Ting Ere >8--------------->8-------- EVERYTHING YOU EVER WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT THE PARTY BUT WERE TOO MARDI GRAS-FRENZIED TO ASK PARTY ETIQUETTE: A little message to our STRAIGHT FRIENDS: You're in the minority. It's not call the Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras Party for nothing, so please keep this in mind and act accordingly. Fellas, forget about that sexyvixen in the leather - only a woman can give her what she wants. And girls, that hunk in the cut-off denims is eyeing your jewellery, not your tits. It's Mardi Gras - THINK GAY! THINK LESBIAN! HARASSMENT WILL NOT BE TOLERATED You will be outed immediately ( from the Party that is ). Security has been well briefed on how to handle the situation. If you're a victim of, or witness to, harassment report to the nearest security guard or Operations in an emergency. BAG SEARCH: You can tell a lot about a girl from her Glomesh bag, but here's a few things that shouldn't fall out on the dance floor. NO CAMERAS The privacy of those attending needs to be respected. Cameras will be confiscated at the gates until the next day. NO ALCOHOL The party is fully licensed and all alcohol will be confiscated. NO SPARKLERS or any other fireworks. They're a real fire hazard and dangerous to other partygoers and will be confiscated. Who needs sparklers anyway with all those sequins! WHATS HAPPENING: In the ROYAL HALL OF INDUSTRIES the DJs will be Alex Taylor from 10pm - 2am, Tony Svehla 2am - 6am, and Kate Monroe 6am - 10am. Barb Williams is your lighting designer. Across at the HORDERN PAVILLION the girls and boys will groove to Brent Nicholls 10pm - 2am, Lexie Bradfield 2am - 6am, and Stephen Allkins 6am - 9:30am. Geoffery Rose masterminded the lights. Security will enforce a women's only WC. Don't miss the COSTUME PARADE. This year's best will be on stage in the HORDERN at 11.30pm. Over at the DOME your DJs are Sylvia 10pm - 3am and Richard Weiss 3am - 8am. Barb Williams does the lights again. Another dykes's-only dunny. THE DYKE BAR can be found in the Festhaus. A lesbian oasis where girls hold court. The music is orchestrated by Thao 10pm - 2am, and Junior B 2am - 6am. THE DAG BAR makes its debut in The Endeavour Pavilion. Music from the50s, 60s and 70s will be played by DJ Bill Morley from 10pm - 5am. THE DRAG BAR returns to Exhibition House where anyone can be ( Drag ) 'Queen of the Night'. Bring your own tape and outfits or choose from tapes provided. PLWHAs will find a quiet escape UPSTAIRS at the DOME in THE PLWHA TIME-OUT ROOM. Relax and enjoy the food and drinks provided. Mardi Gras runs on Mardi Gras time. So even though the outside world will turn it's clocks back when daylight savings ends at 2am, we won't! ( Do you really thing you'd be capable of it at that time, anyway? ) SAFE PARTYING: BEFORE Try and have a quiet ( well, quietish ) week before the Party and rest as much as possible. ( Yes, we know it's like asking Imelda Marcos to wear the same pair of shoes twice, but try. ) Eat properly on the days leading up. Vegies, fruit and protein like meat and beans. Take a range of vitamins, especially B and C, if you drink alcohol or smoke during the festivities. Prepare food that you can easily eat before going to the recovery parties. Lots of fruit for eating or juicing. DURING Water, Aqua, H2O. If you're involved in a dancing marathon drink lots of water to prevent dehydration. Alcohol dehydrates you. Take breaks from dancing. Stop, Revive, Survive. AFTER Drink more water. Sink in water. A warm bath with bath salts works wonders. A massage is heaven and a facial couldn't hurt. Sleep ( as soon as you can ). Vitamins and three good meals a day for the few days after party. Don't make any important decisions over the few days after ( no, this isn't a horiscope ). Flatmates, boyfriends and girlfriends might give you the shits, but don't kick them out just yet... It could have something to do with the fact that you're a little moody. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, ENJOY IT - IT'S YOUR PARTY. SAFE SEX: Let's keep Mardi Gras as safe as possible. And it just wouldn't be Mardi Gras without a 'Happy Mardi Gras' and a KISS. Saliva doesn't transmit HIV, so how about a big tonguey? Problems only arise when vaginal fluid, semen or blood passes from one person into the body of another. MUTUAL MASTABATION is cool, just watch for any cuts or sores on the hands, vagina or penis. ORAL SEX is a low risk activity in terms of HIV transmission. ANAL SEX The major way that HIV is transmitted is through unprotected ANAL SEX. Infected semen can enter the blood stream through the lining of the anus. Whether you're fucking or being fucked USE A CONDOM AND WATER-BASED LUBRICANT EVERY TIME. SAFE SEX INFORMATION SUPPLIED BY ACON THAT'S HANDY: For those in need, the ONE-STOP DISPENSARY run by ACON will be dispensing aspirin, tampons, band aids, condoms, lube, dental dams, other safe materials, and a bit of wisdom. The entrance gates will be swarming with SAFE SEX SLUTS handing out complimentary Safe Sex Packs. The MCC-run CLOAKROOM will be open from 4pm to 7pm for Parade entrants to leave their change of clothes. It will then be open from 10pm till 10am. The PARKING AREA will also be open early, 4pm, for those in the Parade. It's $5 for the whole night. For those without a car, special BUSES will be leaving for the SHowground every 10 minutes from 11.30pm. The buses will depart from Central Station and travel via Park, George, Bathurst, Elizabeth, Liverpool and Oxford Streets, Taylor Square, Greens Road, Moore Park Road, and Driver Avenue to the Showgrounds. The buses will operate in reverse from 6am onwards. ACON and Mardi Gras would like to thank Kia-Ora for supplying "Glyde" condoms and lube and "Lollyes" dental dams at the Party. SYDNEY GAY & LESBIAN MARDI GRAS 15 - 19 BOUNDARY STREET RUSHCUTTERS BAY NSW 2011 tel: ( 02 ) 332 4088 fax: ( 02 ) 332 2969 Take Care Grant ( Spaceman Spliff (tm & puncture) ) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 16:36:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: MOTION Yo Cibertribe, I'm sorry to hear about Pleasure Dome, sounds like a bona fide disaster for those who went. It's a good thing we(P909) decided not to play, I didn't have to worry about wether or not to go. Instead I went to Motion, sorry I missed all the NE Ravers, I wanted to met you. By the time I found Becca, I was not thinking well;) She mentioned that you were all there but, I didn't know who I was looking for and it was so crowded. As for Motion: It was really cool!! It had the VIBE I've missed for a long time. Every body was so freindly and laid back, we came to have a good time and dance together so thats what we did. I gotta say, anytime the Motion crew puts together another one I'll be there. As for the music: I thought Tega was good. But James Christian, yet again, proves he is the SLAMMINEST!! Always, everytime, he steals the show. Wasnt too hard though, Frankie came on, killed the vibe so we split. Hope to actually catch you next time. Peace:) Jason PS The Motion crew was gonna let P909 play, but T went to Viginia to hang with Tina, and Dietrich went down to PD try and spin, but they said we'll be in on the next one, and I psyched to do it!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:09:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hank Hughes Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hank Hughes Subject: Re: MOOs and MUDs In-Reply-To: <199404091911.PAA12499@holmes.umd.edu> from "Paul J Gaydos" at Apr 9, 94 03:11:26 pm > > >I seem to remember a while back that there was a MUD or MOO where people > > >from the rave mailing lists were encouraged to hang out. Does anyone > > >know the address for this place? > > I know some MUD addresses that are supposed to be very good according > to techno-art-symbiotic types that I know so I must find where I scrawled > the addressed down soon. > > Paul Paul I have a part-time MOO running running at my school. However, until I get full permission from my boss, I can't make it publically available. When I get some time, I'll be able to hack on a computer that will be able to host the MOO securely. Inside the virtual environment are gopher clients to techno.stanford.edu's archives,interactive weather maps, dictionaries, etc. Nothing new to the MOO society but now you can say that you're actually doing *work* while being social :) -- On another note, if anyone has WWW pages - please tell me. If you wish I can make links to you from techno.stanford.edu and from personal pages. Or if you'd like to know how to make an html document/WWW page - just ask. If your site doesn't have a server, tell me, I can serve the document from here. -- Finally, I'd like to ask people to cut down on some posts. Some of these things are getting outta hand. Remeber, finger whois, and white pages are your *friends* for finding people. Also, instead of sending 5 posts in 15 minutes. Please *combine* them into on post. Much appreciated in advance - Considering some sleep, HANK _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Hank Hughes Experimental Systems Group _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Northeastern University Computer Sceince _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ E-mail: thigpen@ccs.neu.edu - thigpen@uci0.mitre.org _/_/_/ _/_/_/ URL: www.ccs.neu.edu/USER/thigpen/index.html _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ SUMMER'S NOT A SEASON, IT'S A RAVE ATTITTUDE _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:39:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hank Hughes Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hank Hughes Subject: Re: MOOs and MUDs In-Reply-To: <199404081425.KAA04709@holmes.umd.edu> from "Michael Francois" at Apr 8, 94 10:21:00 am > > Hey, I encourage eveyone to hang out at LambdaMOO, which is available via > telnet at LAMBDA.XEROX.COM. > > It's a very sophisticated MOO that's easy to use. If you try it, type > > CONNECT GUEST after the info screen > > look for me, MYG. > > It's fun, no doubt! > Yes it is! However you may want a client. If you're using a Mac or use emacs I can point you to an ftp site. parcftp.xerox.com /pub/MOO and look under clients or contrib/clients. If you need help - just e-mail me. Also if you like tk/tcl and wanna beta test tkmoo, drop a line. Warning you that a client is *much* better - HANK _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ Hank Hughes Experimental Systems Group _/_/_/ _/_/_/ Northeastern University Computer Sceince _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ E-mail: thigpen@ccs.neu.edu - thigpen@uci0.mitre.org _/_/_/ _/_/_/ URL: www.ccs.neu.edu/USER/thigpen/index.html _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ SUMMER'S NOT A SEASON, IT'S AN ATTITTUDE _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:44:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: good techno on cd reliable cds????? ha! i've had the bad misfortune of being forced to play cds at many times. how about having this in your mix... (time machine goes back to 1992...) (Phantasia "Violet Skies")... "I have come down from the violet skies to save the day... *blah*blah*.... "locked inside your mind/mind/mind/mind/mind/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi /mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/mi/CLICKCLICKCLICKCLICK*CHIRP*CHIRP*CHIRP*...." boy oh boy... if there's one thing a DJ should never rely on... it's hoping that the microprocessor that drives the servomotor and pickup assembly goes into an endless looping glitch it's happened to me way too many times for me to place any trust into using CDs seriously. "amsterdam/dam/dam/dam/dam/dam*CHIRP*CHIRP*CHIRP*.... waar lech/lech/lech/ lech/lech/lech/le/le/le/le/le/le/le*CHIRP*CHIRP*CHIRP*... KABOOM!!!!!! (the sound of me smashing a dysfunctional CD player) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:47:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Pleasure DOOM :( - WHY??? In-Reply-To: <199404102113.RAA16956@holmes.umd.edu> I am so embarrassed to have my name on the flyer now. I was just reading some of my private sent-mail from a bit more than two months ago where I was expressing my initial hesitations about getting involved in the project in any way and remember how all my hesitations were placated by erik (plasma1000). I really believed that they had it together this time and I gave the benefit of the doubt after all concerns addressed were retorted with calm and confident reasurring data. I followed through afterwards with as much communication as possible with erik whenever the same concerns were echoed by people on NE Raves and everywhere, esp. after it was posted that it was booked to be at the club called Bonkers- which almost had me calling erik to state that if he couldn't defend against these allegations, I could no longer support the project and that at that point I would do everything I could to discredit the party. Before I had time to call, he posted his defence for PD here on NE-raves and I decided to stay silent and only run the caravan if I had at least 8 responses by Friday night or if Jason from p909 would be swayed back to attendance if I gave him a ride I would also go through the effort. I hadn't had a chance to discuss what were the factors that caused Jason to make his decision not to attend; he had originally posted that it was because his two friends were going to Motion, I didn't realize there was more to it than that. I only had 4 confirmations so I decided not to run the trip, and I couldn't even find a ride for myself, didn't feel like spending money for transportation just for myself. I stayed home. I didn't realize that the event was cancelled till I checked my email today, Sunday afternoon. This bumms me out hard, it's bad that I was decieved so much, that I may have persuaded others to go. I handed out most of my flyers, hand-to-hand and put a real effort into my simple job of distribution, counting on the producers coming through for this event. I felt that they were motivated to do the right thing and it seemed like they had done all the business and paper-work properly with minor human error and that they had the important bases covered. I am very curious as what the rationalization/ excuses/ reasoning they will provide for this grand SNAFU, being that I am the naive and optimistic person I try to be, very understanding of production difficulties because of the grand effort I KNOW it is to put on a quality event, there is part of my that will want to believe an understandable human oversight was made, not a deceptive trick played on the whole of our tribe. Of course, I will be infinitely more cautious when deciding if I'm willing to support someone but I'm sure that this event will have helped discredit me (and all others involved) and it will be more difficult for me to assist anyone who is really doing a quality event. Besides, what would convince me now that anyone is really doing it right. How am I to believe anyone who doesn't already have a whole slew of events under their belt? How is the new and able producer going to be able to gather support when no one trusts anyone? How are we to build trust in the scene when so many people have embarrased and damaged it? pooped and poopy, feeling kinda droopy --> your barely faithful and just hardly hopeful, Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 17:55:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404102144.RAA17058@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 10 Apr 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > reliable cds????? > ha! > i've had the bad misfortune of being forced to play cds at many times. how > about having this in your mix... > if there's one thing a DJ should never rely on... it's hoping that the > microprocessor that drives the servomotor and pickup assembly goes into > an endless looping glitch > it's happened to me way too many times for me to place any trust into > using CDs seriously. sounds like my man here needs to get a decent cd player. i would bet that i've listened to just as many hours of cd play as you and i don't even recall ever having a problem with endless loops or anything major like that. in fact, except for maybe a few damaged cd's, i've only had them skip in my car cd player. it just sounds like your problem is cheap equiptment. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:11:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: last thought on pd :P all i can say (which is basically echoing laura's words) is that if you *ever* see energizer/thermonuclear/whatever else they call themselves on a flier promoting a event, do not go. we need not to discuss how bad they cheated the scene and us, just don't even think of ever supporting them again. harmon-e _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:11:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: Pleasure DOOM :( - WHY??? Dave Darrow... please please please save me one of those 'If You're Exploited And You Know It Clap Your Hands' T-shirts...I have a feeling they'll be in big demand...hmm, I sure hope I remembered to edit my header and send this via private e-mail and not to the whole list. later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:25:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Brian Ayo Knowles Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Brian Ayo Knowles Subject: Re: Pleasure DOOM :( - WHY??? In-Reply-To: <199404102147.RAA17077@holmes.umd.edu> from "Paul J Gaydos" at Apr 10, 94 05:47:46 pm Unfortunatly, I was on one of the bus rides that didn't find out in time. The 6 hour drive there was no problem. But once we got to MusicNow a few people started to get nervous when they heard the news that Dmitry decided not to show up at all. Once we got to the site, we were greeted by the police and told about what was happening. Normally I can handle bad news pretty well, but we found this out along with the news that our bus driver's contract wouldn't let him drive us to the next corner with out him getting 6-8 hours of sleep (or something like that). The only reason we got a ride to a hotel was the fact that the police officer *told* him too (something about the area being *bad*.) After that we all had to spend more money to pull together and get some rooms. Overall, I didn't mind the ride because I'm originally from SE D.C. , but I did mind losing money and the posibilty of being stranded in the middle of Baltimore six hours away from home. Overall (including about $5 dollars per person for a room) we lost a total of $1,927. But more importantly, this was the first time A freind of mine pulled together everything for a bus ride. Not only does he feel bad but i doubt he'll ever do something like this again. Even through all of this we still managed to have fun and keep each other's spirits up. I know there were alot of people from farther places coming to this and I feel for them. Welp, I'm tired and sleepy so I'll stop now. hopper ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 18:59:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: (e)motion & other important points It's been ages since I write a review but it's been ages since I've been to a good party. This is one of the better events I've been to. For several months now I've been going to events that just weren't that good. Bad vibes, bad sound systems, DJs that just didn't move me... this was quite a refreshing change. We arrived when Tiga from Montreal was spinning and he was alright but the general vibe was kinda weird. I saw James Christian after a few mintues and had a chat with him. I asked him about how he was supposed to be spinning at Pleasure Dome and some other party in South Carolina (?). Well he wasn't saying much about it except for "I'm having business problems." So I told him about what I had heard... that he had a contract for Pleasure Dome and that his manager told him (and Dmitry, etc.) to spin at the party in Carolina instead. He confirmed this to be all true but he wouldn't add any comments except that he trusts his home scene more. He lives about 30 minutes from the Motion site (about 5 minutes from Caffeine) and is obviously more aquainted with the organizers/promoters, whatever there. Why travel so far when you've got a great party with people you know & trust in your own backyard? well that's the gossip. He asked me if the sound was OK so I told him it wasn't loud enough. He managed to get it louder which was great & terribly needed but we could have done with even more. Am I going deaf or why don't the sound systems seem to be as loud and rich as they used to be? As usual, James played a sooper amazingly phat set. I've loved this guy for well over a year now and I still insist on having his child. :) Each DJ played for 1:15 and the funny part is, I have about half the records James played! I was well chuffed. It's so great to be able to dance to your own records. He really knows how to get the crowd moving too. Enuf said. After him was Jimmy Crash and although I love Jimmy as a person, I'm not that into HARD trance. I'd prefer to hear hard acid. Frankie killed the vibe as usual. He wasn't even trying to beat match, at least he didn't mouth off during his set but of course he did introduce every DJ. Dave Trance was alright, I've heard him do better, I've heard him do worse. His mixing was a bit abrubt, like he was insecure. Micro was the shit! It was worth waiting just under 4 hours just to hear Micro! Vanessa where were you??? He played a lot of classics like Age of Love, Slam's Positive Education, and lots of other wicked new stuff I haven't heard before. The security pissed me off. First they came up to Phil and I and told us to put our shirts back on during James' set. It was well warm in there and I was sweating up a storm dancing my butt off. So I simply told the guy "NO! It's very hot in there, there's no ventilation, no running water and I might get sick from dehydration" so they walked away. All I was thinking was FUCK YOU! Water is a human right folks. How can they take your water away from you and not even provide running water? Why do we stand up for this? I imagine we can be a pretty united force. Imagine if we all collectively decided NOT to go inside the party unless they let us bring in the water. Unless they have advance ticket money, they'd have to let us in with it! Then they wouldn't let us go back out to the car. I was soooo hungry and all I wanted was an apple. Is it that difficult to provide a hand stamp? Is it? It's these little things that count. Speaking of, some of the visuals were pretty good. I like the "analog" or old school type visuals. They had those disks with colored images and different patterns that rotate. If they only had a film going or film loops or oil projections or a slide show. Nobody does these anymore. Everyone seems to be into the video and computer art and fractals and all the "digital" video media. Ate a ton of fresh fruit (so much nicer to your body than sugar) and went to the free afterparty at Caffeine. I was so tired but I wanted to hear Onionz and Sprockett was supposed to be spinning but he got dissed. So we heard DNA and she played some great tunes... a few slight beatmatching errors but her style was more experimental so I didn't mind. I'd rather hear something different than the plain old crossfade. A whole bunch of people were dancing including a lot of women and big guys alike. It felt so good and the music was so emotional and warm, I almost started crying. A good party is so simple to do. Why can't more people get it right? I wish the party were in the actual club instead of in the back warehouse like they did for after Positive Energy though. At least in the club there are places to sit down and the sound system is better... We left there about after an hour, content and too tired to hang on for Onionz. Thanks to Becca (Mass.) and Sprockett for taking us. Everyone else, it's always a pleasure to see & dance with you. Looking forward to many more this summer. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:13:20 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: Holmes does it again... well friends, no i told you so's , no beating of a dead horse, no apologies, no angered words, no bullshit, and not another word about these morons....just the plain facts. here's what i heard, bonkers fell through, you all know that. they didn't have permits. so the p.d. crew relies on randy of apple lighting to find them a new space, which was the country barn. randy claims the guy has the permits, he claims he sees the permits. the p.d. guys see the permits. somehow, miraculously they don't see that these are the APPLICATIONS for permits, not the actually permits. they obviously get fooled. then, the day of, the owner of the site gets in argument with a guy who has leased the site from the owner and then turned around and subleased the building to p.d. somehow in that argument, the police are called to the building, where they then ask dj sun! ( who happened to be there finding out what time he was playing, and witnessed the whole thing) to see the occcupancy and use permit, as well as fire permits. rob and randy find the owner who produces the applications for permits, and the police just laugh at him. "you need the real permits, not the applications," they tell him. so at 6 pm pleasure dome is no more!!! good thing sun was there to tell rob what to do, cause apparently he was all freaked out, and didn't start trying to call people till a little while later. he didn't even think about the bus trips to try to stop them from coming. now the timing isn't exactly straight, but i knew the party was cancelled from my house even as they were sending someone over to get money from modern music!! i immediately called modern music to tell them the thing was off, and joe told me that someone had JUST called to say they were on their way to collect cash. "joe," i said, "fuck them, you better not give one cent to these guys, cause people are gonna want their money back, and we need to stick together." he definitely agreed and sent the p.d. guy away without any cash. they then stayed open later to give people refunds, which was cool on their part. was it bad luck? for the forth time in a row. or is it just that these guys proved again their incompetence. i know this much. when we find places, we don't rely on the word of some non law knowing building owner. we get on the phone and we call the city offices and we ask them what permits we need, how to get them, and most of all, does a location we are looking at have them. if it doesn't THEN YOU DON'T FUCKING ANNOUNCE THE EVENT UNTIL YOU DO!! and if anyone even thinks about going to another one of these people's events, then i don't want you at ours! harsh but true. if you're a dj or performer, don't let these guys book you, if you're a promoter, don't hand out their fliers or help in any way, if you're modern music or musicnow, tell them to take their tickets and use them for kindling (which is all they are good for) and if they have the audacity to try again, you better believe my mouth ain't staying shut!!! any number that appears on their flier, i think we ALL should call, and say, "look these guys are wack, don't do that bus, or don't hand out those fliers, or don't sell their tickets, or don't set up your laser, or projections or whatever, just say no!!" yes this scene is about love and friendship and respect, and i when i grabbed the mike at the end of spiritual movement 3 and said it was the best party i had ever been to, i wasn't bullshitting. IT'S NOT ABOUT COMPETITION! it's about kids driving hours and hours and then going home empty handed thinking how fucked up the balto d.c. scene is, and how we're going to make sure that doesn't happen EVER again. i'm gonna say it, and any body who gets pissed off can sue me :) if you are coming to this area for a LARGE event, at this point in time there have only been 2 constants in the balto/d.c. area since catastrophic, and that is modern music and ultraworld. yes there have been some successes with other things (cloudwatch, muse's, others i may have missed), but as far as big events go, unless you see either of those two promoters doing something, i would stay home. now i know some things that are planned for the future (new catastrophic?, etc...), and i will fully support efforts of people who know what they are doing, but the time for giving people the benefit of the doubt is over, and this weekend proved that. we're going to make this year fun, and incompetants like the pleasure dome people aren't going to ruin it!!! everybody with me? (sorry for the length of this post) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:41:35 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: NJ Party May 7 The Princeton Groove Possee brings you M A N T R A S WHEN: Saturday May 7th, 10/11- ?? WHERE: 1,000,000% bust-proof location in Princeton, NJ. WHY: 'cuz our feet are ITCHIN'!!!!! WALLET THINNING FACTOR: 0 (free) DJ's: HaZard (Boston/ne-raves) Will-E (NYC/ne-raves) Mars (NJ/ne-raves) Denard (NYC) Live Experimental Midi-Drum Performance by our own CMC (Computer Music Composer) DJ DANKS!! If you are interested, call the infoline at (609) 258-7249 and leave your name & number, and a time when I can reach you. We can have a pre-party ne-raves dinner at the location for a minimal cost, too. Come support the net-talent and groove with us! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 19:54:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Holmes does it again... In-Reply-To: <199404102315.TAA17468@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 10 Apr 1994 ultraworld@AOL.COM wrote: > if you are coming to this area for a LARGE event, at this point in time there > have only been 2 constants in the balto/d.c. area since catastrophic, and > that is modern music and ultraworld. yes there have been some successes with > other things (cloudwatch, muse's, others i may have missed), but as far as > big events go, unless you see either of those two promoters doing something, > i would stay home. i've only been to balt./dc for one event (resolution :) a great party) so i really don't have much knowledge about the promoters/organizers there, but it sounds like a lot of the inexperienced partythrowers are in dire need of a consultant who knows what s/he's doing. as far as very large parties go, it seems like ultraworld knows their business. why don't people urge the people throwing parties to work *with* lonnie or another successful partythrowing-type person? the scene is too mature to be learning lessons like pleasure dome over and over again. plus, i'd feel a lot better about planning to travel that far if i knew that there was someone as trustworthy as lonnie in on the business stuff. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 20:44:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: PleasureDUD!!! Ohhhh.... where to begin! Well I know that everyone is basically relieving tension and stress about this whole thing, so here I am to do the same. Well, like Brian (Hopper) said, here we were all primed and ready for "PLEASURE DOME 94". After two months of sweat and toil, I was able to pull this bus trip together!! I was also appeased by Erik's (plasma1000) soothing words of confort when I expressed concern about rumors that i had been hearing. Anyhow, we spent 10 hours in the Bus that day and I busted my ass, for what? >>>> JACK SHIT!!! I then had to deal with the 45 friends on the bus, at least they were understanding!! Thanks to the Bus Driver of Bus One out of Columbus (Smokey was his name!) who was even willing to bust out his American Express Card to save us from trouble! Also thanks to the the Holiday Inn, in Baltimore that gave us the cheap rooms! We still managed to keep our spirits somewhat lifted. All I can say is that I will never *EVER* do a Bus Trip again!!!! And I doubt that I will travel very far for Raves in the future. These guys are ASSHOLES (to say the least!) and in hopes that Plasma1000 is reading this, thanks a shit load for destroying my fuck'n bus trip!!! The 47 of us returned from Baltimore tired, empty handed, and dishearted!! Thanks again guys....... -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:10:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dougie Fresh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dougie Fresh Organization: The American University Subject: NO PD? Then lets pic-nic and chill at Robs! hey everyone, just wanted to send this post about yesterday. First off the pre-picnic for Pleasuredome. I went down earlier with some friends at school to check out the cherry blossoms and made it back to the Monument at 4:30 and promptly met someone from Radford (Sorry imm really bad with names) and Then a bunch of people from Pittsburgh and more and more people trickled in. Eventually there were a good deal of people chilling out and i went on a treck with Melzie to find some fruit salad and some drinks and came back to see rob, john and derek chilling also with tina and taylor . so after taking some pictures and all people were getting cold and we all made it back eventually to Rob's place (after another treck by the cherry blossoms -beautiful at sunset!- ) and found out that Pleasure Dome had been cancled. People looked upset and all esp. Derek and John who were supposed to spin there So i went back with Ferg to school and picked up some 1200's and a mixer from school ;) and my records and made it back to Robs and we all just ended up basically chilling out and talking until around 4 when people left either to Tracks or for some sleep. John and Derek, i really enjoyed your sets! :( too bad couldnt hear then also with hundreds of people also but it was cool none the less. and also FINNALY got to see some of the cyberia episodes and also a chance to see on videotape sunshine 1 again *sniff* :) So in the end i wasnt too upset cause i wasnt really planning on going to Plesuredome anyways, got a chance to spin using my new 7506's ;) and met hang with friends old&new. And especially big thanks to becca for taking the cab back with me to A.U and helping to carry the 1200's and mixer back! peace y'all! _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ feel ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ feel ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______feel the music soft and mellow____ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ _______________________________ doug )( dz5401a@american.edu dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu dj dougiefresh r o c k i n da t a b l e s tapes upon request_yeah right_ P.S. - Rob sorry i didnt call today i didnt wake up until 5 :) i was hoping i could come buy tuesday to pick up the vinyl if its cool with you. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 21:43:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: wow....is this deja vu or what?? sometime during the 8 and a half hour drive to kentucky for escape velocity (great party btw...review to come) my car-mate danFREElove and i got into a lengthy (+1 hour) conversation about the whole pleasuredome buisiness. (now, i know there have been a lot of posts about PD so far, but dont delete this one just yet) what we mainly focused on was the accountibility of the promoters--the fact that promoters have a RESPONSIBILITY to throw their events for the "right" reasons. i argued that the only really good parties are thrown by people who truly CARE about the scene; they offer an almost intangible feeling of sincerity that seems to add to an event. dispite the large number of net ravers that were to be performing at PD that night, i couldnt truthfully give my support to A crew that has been consistant in dicking people around, being untruthful and sneaky, and generally untrustworthy. dan said that, although he agreed that the motives of PD were unsavory, we shoul d look at the result of it (remember, this was sat afternoon so we had no idea of the cancellation), namely that a lot of netravers were getting some much needed attention for their talents. as for the promoters, we shouldnt kill the party before it even started (heh). anyhow, this conversation got me thinking to exactly what is the responsibility of A large party promoter...when i found out that PD was actually dead.... well, i wish i could say i was surprised....im just sorry that it happened this way...i was hoping that they'd get their shit together for once. i mean, i was astually supposed to be playing with derek at PD originally... i truly wanted to give my support to it...but as the accusations mounted and the rumors evolved into fact, i started to get an ugly feeling about the whole thing. and i wasnt the only one. trancefused productions (derek and i) are listed as promoters on the PD flyer...but we were actually trying NOT to hype it, for fear that the spillover from a PD bust would taint us. duncan in charlottesville and cheli from north carolina were thinking the same way.. all of seemed to have that feeling that PD was gonna go wrong. so i gladly accepted the offer to PA at escape velocity... what really pisses me off is the sneaky, underhanded way that the PD crew handled themselves. they did nothing to quiet the rumors, and they were so secretive aboiut things that it was hard not to get a little suspicious. some examples: 1. the PD promoters have a NASTY habit of listing dj's on their flyers before any conformation or date is set....on some occasions the dj's hadn't even been CONTACTED before they saw their names on flyers. even if the PD space was kosher, several of the big-name dj's werent going to show up. putting dj names on flyers strictly to cheat people into going (which is the case here) is a total dick move to pull on the people who would drop $20 to see (insert name here) if a dj backs out, fine....just own up to it right away. the PD people had plenty of notice that dj's werent gonna show, but did they inform anyone of that? NO. 2. since the PD crew has a history of uhm....MISTAKES, they had an OBLIGATION to quiet our fears about the event. they should have been open to us from the very start. instead, we got a bunch of whiney "everyones out to get us" posts that did almost nothing to settle some of the confusion. if "people are out to get you" theres a very good reason: your track record. it is YOUR responsibility, not ours, to set things up properly. 3. speaking of "out to get us" remarks.....lonnie (ultraworld) has taken some heat for ripping on PD...some people made it out to be a personal vendetta of his....now, i think lonnie has more integrity than to badmouth a party for no reason....who has CONSISTANTLY thrown no-hassle great parties, and is a true supporter of the mid atlantic scene? enough said. 4. also, the pleasuredome guys have to wake up and realize that WITHOUT A CONTRACTED SPACE, A HUGE EVENT WILL GO DOWN IN FLAMES. i meAn, it doesnt take a brain surgeon to realize that if you're planning for 1000+ people, get your space before you get your beautiful flyers printed up! when planning smaller events you can sometimes deal with a space crises, but dont play around when youre thinking large scale. 5. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR ACTIONS. im sure that the pd crew would have simply quelled a lot of concerns (at first) if they had said something like "listen, we know that weve screwed up in the past, but were trying hard to make pleasuredome a success for the scene...and we would appreciate your support" instead, they pretty much dodged the issue that they were involved in raveland, flesh, et al. when djs started dropping, we werent informed. when serious questions were asked, they werent answered. and, once again, they ***NEGLECTED TO TELL PEOPLE THAT IS WAS CANCELLED!!!*** how many ravers drove HOURS without knowing that it was in vain? gow many bus trip orginizers have to now pay money they dont have? the fact thAt the PD guys gave us NO notice shows a definite lack of respect to its major responsibility: the kids paying the bucks at the door. and what happens now? do they get ANOTYHER new name and expect us to support them? i sure as hell hope not i mean, this kind of incompetance is absolutly rediculous!!!! the reprocussions of PD is going to have a definite effect on our beloved scene, and we all knew it would happen.....deep down, i think we all did. unfortunatly, the first response from many of us was to shoot the messenger...im sure both lonnie and andy cerutti got a lot of flack for their views on PD. so in closing....support the parties that support you. *sigh* -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 22:39:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: for the record, sorry lonnie -Paul In-Reply-To: <199404110144.VAA18954@holmes.umd.edu> hey I put a post out in reply2lonnie's original PD post that explained my position and why I believed that he might flame PD without good evidence. I tried to qualify it since it was based primarily on supposition... (I find that a lot of times I have to make decisions based on circumstancial evidence and sometimes even hearsay when not able to see the facts for myself) however now I have to appologize because it seems that lonnie is all-clear on allegations that he flamed PD for personal reasons... unfortunately PD probably does hurt him greatly since it reflects on the DC scene as a whole, but anyone who knows will realize that its not the area a rave is thrown at but the individuals behind the production that makes the logistics happen right. Sorry Lonnie, I've spoken to you before, I have no real reason to have put out any bad mouth on you. Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 22:51:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: short note on PD More on my talk with James Christian last night. About Pleasure Dome, he called this guy "SCUM" very loudly and all I can say is you should have seen the look on his face when he said it. And this was before he even knew the party was cancelled. I told him since he didn't know. He also said this guy did have *one* party (out of four so far?) that worked and it was called FLESH. One out of four parties? That's pretty sad. Well after reading all the posts about unPleasure-able Dome, I hope you can all look on the more positive side of things. I hate to think of not only all the people that lost money and time but also spirit. If your attitude to this is, never again will I organize a bus trip or to another extreme, never again will I travel far for a party... don't let one asshole or one failed event ruin it for you. For every rotten apple there are many times as many golden delicious apples. I'm not saying trust blindly again... but just don't give up. This was one bad extreme. There are also the good extremes and let's not forget about those! the good times are why we go out of our way to do these things in the first place. Now we know better... we sure live and learn don't we? Well actually, as soon as I saw the flyer I knew immediately that the only thing it was going to be good for was to make cassette covers with. Again, my condolences goes out to those who had a bad night. I wish you could have all come to Motion with us instead. Here's to focusing our energy on a wonderful summer with positive vibes... leave the fuck ups behind. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 23:15:10 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: tracks Still the PD hotline says there is a party starting at 4am on sunday morning at Tracks in DC...now I talked to leiven at musicnow at 1am on sunday morning and he said there was NOT GOING TO BE A PARTY at tracks..although modermusic and the pd hotline still said there was going to be....was there? and did anyone go and find there not to be a prty? if there was one...was it any good? john g. peace ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 23:32:01 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: FMR in Albany: show of hands Hey kids, Sometime last week or so, good Mr. Sprockett mailed me a couple of passes for the FMR to be held on April 23rd (two weeks!) in Albany. This is just a little post to encourage anyone who can some to do so, since I know this will be a great party. the space we've got ready sounds gorgeous, the music will definitely be grand, and of course, with the presence of so many lovely folks such as yourselves this will be hopefully the first of many memorable events to kick this summer off right :) Please get in touch with your regional promoter sprockett-boston-617.352.6939 jetta-boston (running a van)-617.283.1944 speed racer-r.i.-401.783.6365 jenn-bug-PA-215.998.9650 mars-NJ-a176@lehigh.edu Fish-NYC/Long Island-516.331.5369 darshan-central ny-315.824.3853 cat-albany ny-518.426.9533 mission-albany-518.43.birth donato-central ma-508.839.3751 zooey-central ma-jttzoe@amhux3.amherst.edu Peace, and I hope to see many many of you there that night, it will be magical :) PLUR, FiSH ps. Sprockett! I need more passes, the shipment you gave me has been snarfed up by the locals :) please send me more! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 23:48:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: commercial In-Reply-To: Paul J Gaydos "Re: New York City Rumor (Monday Night)" (Apr 6, 7:24pm) NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE POWER OF RAVES JUJUBEE ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Apr 1994 23:28:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Escape Velocity Sigh.. I am so sorry everyone, I made a mistake. I thought the ThermoNuclear people might be able to pull it off. I thought they might add some diversity to the DC/Baltimore list of promoters. I was wrong. I just wish I had had the insight to listen more thoughtfully to some of the arguments presented against them before blindly supporting the event in the name of the NetRavers who were going to be performing. On the trip out to Escape Velocity Jason (Method1) and I had a good conversation, which I have to say Jason presented a beautiful argument about being able to trust the promoters. I have always approached the promoters reputation as being secondary to their ability to focus resources to produce a party. I realize, belatedly, that it is of equal importance. That their reputation represents the entire native scene, not only to the outside world, but to the local scene itself. Anyhow, the Escape Velocity party was incredible. I don't know how Jsqared does it, but he does it well. We got there early, so that Jason could set up and we could hopefully see all the other net ravers who were to be in atten-dance (forgive me, I am tired ;) ). We heard that Britt and Wink weren't going to be able to make it because of a cancelled flight. Looking back, it hardly seems to have mattered. Jason's set was incredible, Hawtin spun for three and a half hours, AstroBoy got some good jams in. I don't even know what other DJs were there, I spent some time dancing, but most of the time I was just overwhelmed by seeing old friends and meeting new ones (both net and nonnet). The vibe was thick and tasty, there was free pizza, free snapple, free video games (I hadn't seen some of those types of machines in YEARS), free entrance to net ravers, free love (well, I was there). Best of all I got to see Allison (I know, I know, mushiness is not appreciated on high bandwidth). I think the only complaint I could think of during the entire party was that the dance area was too small and got too crowded (esp. with the looky-lous staring at the DJ table and the PA setup like some sort of magic would jump out of the machinery and cause the cure of unnamed ailments). But any party where the only complaint to be lodged is a lack of dancing space is a good party. NetRavers in attendance. I couldn't even start to guess how many were there, I know there were alot of familiar names, alot of people I don't know from MW Raves, but I think the list for net raver admission was something around 70, and it is easy to suppose that at least 3/4 of that list took JJ up on his offer. I think the most telling thing was at the Denny's after-breakfast (after we took over a whole section of the resteraunt) when JJ shouted the question 'How many of you are on the Net.' About 1/3 of us raised our hands. Someone asked what he said, so he asked it again louder, the raised hands jumped up to over 2/3s. It was inspiring. Ccode gave me a copy of the MW Raves mix tape. If anyone really likes good music, get this tape. There is some amazing stuff on this tape, my particular favorites were some of Todd Sines' projects and a project called KingSize by Steven (on vrave). Wow, this really blew me away, all styles, no big label compilation of humus, just a great representation of the MW scenes native artists. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 00:24:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: timely article...... In-Reply-To: <199404072320.TAA00118@holmes.umd.edu> My first comment on this article (I got to read my Wired on Saturday while driving out to EV) is that the guy on the cover bears a striking resemblance to a certain ne-raves listadmin. My second comment is that I wanted to do a similiar article for Wired on the NetRaver scene here in the US. Guess it just wasn't exotic enough for them. My third comment is that I have been talking to the guy who wrote the article (Jules Marshall) for a few weeks now. We have been working out some article trading schemes and that sort of schtuff (I want to write for his magazine, MediaMatic, essentially). I mailed him out copies of Slurp and Urb so he could look them over and maybe do a review for i-D on them and he was pretty surprised that the US scene was so net-savvy, seemed to have blown him away. I gave him the address to vrave and he should be on in a little while when his office finishes it's move and becomes hooked up to their new net connections. After reading it over I have just two questions left unanswered: 1> What does this Megatripolis US trip mean? What are they going to do? Are they NASA UK? 2> The Rainbow Gathering. I am assuming this is something done by the Rainbow Tribe. I heard that they had split along some wierd circumstances (the tribe, that is), does anyone know which section of the tribe is holding the Grand Canyon gathering? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 00:59:22 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: DIS_Pleasure Moan... On Sun, 10 Apr 1994, GEO MR. MATHEW A. RAHMAN wrote: > Michael Schreiber writes: > making it may have been a good thing. I met up with the people from > Pitt, (actually it's IUP- I think...) who let me have the news, told me > about Tracks (didn't sound like fun) but also told me another sit > had been arranged in Balt-o and they were waiting for the word. Well we arrived at the Mall at 6:30 and no one was there, the first waste of time for the night. Then we went to the sight and you know the rest of the story. Plasma (eric and rob) can bite me. This is the second time and there won't be a third. Incidentally Mr Plasma, I expect a cashiers check or money order (no personal checks as I know not to trust you) in the mail no later than Friday. It should be in the amount of $75.00 for travel expenses (car rental) we agreed you'd pay in the event of such a disaster. I stuck my neck out for you guys and you let me down . I lost about $200 on this little adventure and the least you can do is stick to our contract., Should you choose not to honor the contract I have a lawyer friend in the area who will pursue this for me as a favor. In short, pay up or put up! I strongly suggest you guys get out the scene and go to something which your dishonesty and incompetance might be of value, like selling used cars. > Suddenly > every one started running to their cars and got into this big caravan to > where ever it was we were going, never turning down an adventure, I followed. > Unfortunately, someone in the beginning of the line decided to go to Taco-Hell > (with the following 20+ cars) so we had a hasty pow-wow and headed off again > into the wilds of downtown Balt-o. Eventually we (they, the people in the > "know") realised we were completely lost and stopped at this gas staion > (which turned out to be right next to the stadium) and organized individual > cars to go scout out the place. Hey I was here!! We were lost and were going to go to the gas station for directions when lo and behold a bunch of other people just as lost as us. > After about 30 min they announce that EUREKA they had finally > found the place and off we went again...to SUCCESS we found this > little club (204 Club?? on Green St.) and went in (only $5!!! good, if > you hadn't bought a ticket yet, *finally* procrastination pays off!!!). > The evening got off to a late start, but eventually really kicked off!!! > I partied with my new friends from Pitt. (Kevin, Bryan, Michelle, and Karin, > sorry for bad spelling guys...) who said that this was the *LAST* time > they would come out here ever! This is too bad that shitty people have > given this area a bum rap, I'd like to see DC become a popular rave > place what can we do?? (suggestions?) But anyway, we danced and partied 'till > I had to go at 7, but the party was raging on strong as ever and probably > did so until well into the day. I just wish that those hangin' at rob's > could've been notified, they might have not been quite so dissapointed... I was here. I don't know if we met but I had a blue shirt on and brown pants and dreads and was dancing like a madman (I was pretty pissed actually) I'm glad you had fun but I will echo what the Pittsburgh crew told you. It will be a cold day in you know where before we come down for anything in that area again. The bright side of this is that people here now are starting to see how good our scene actually is and how we really don't need to look elsewhere. There is already talk of a string of events this summer as well as the long awaitied opening of Cloud Nine the club being opened by former Turbozen Records co-owner Lisa Kail. On the other hand I will still come down to the area if a reputable promoter books me. Support your local scene wherever it is. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:09:06 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Suck me Plasma!Re: PLEASUREDOME (fwd) First of a series of messages designed to assure me this was on the level. Tell me you wouldn't have become equially convinced. Joe ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Feb 94 21:20:10 EST From:plasma1000@aol.com To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Re: PLEASUREDOME Joe, Fair enough. Mail your contract as whenever you wish (How about a new tape as well?). By the way, this event is not taking place in a warehouse. I will no longer promote events taking place in warehouses due to high volitility. Even if one has secured permits for the space, there is still the posibility (in this area at least) that "big brother" can put down his iron fist. Talk to you later. ERic ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:12:37 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Sucke me Plasma!Re: PLEASUREDOME (fwd) Part 2 of a series. ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 25 Feb 94 00:55:06 EST From:plasma1000@aol.com To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Re: PLEASUREDOME Joe, Send the contract to Rob at: Energizer Prods 660 Stonewheel Ct. Millersville MD 21108 The venue is not a warehouse but it is well over 80,000 sq ft. The main room itself is around 85K sq. ft. In total, there is approx 120K sq. ft. of space, but we probably won't use it all. Aloha, Eric. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:15:17 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Suck me Plasma #3Re: 'PLEASUREDOME (fwd) hehe I call this the infamous weasel letter as they weaseled out of what we talked about on the phone. ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:42:25 EST From:plasma1000@aol.com To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Re: 'PLEASUREDOME Hey Joe .... What's up, this is Eric in DC. Rob is in Cali right now, but he informs me that you agreed on $250 Total. (Aren't contract negotiations tiresome...) Anyway, Our budget is extremely tight and I hope that you can understand that raves out here do not make alot of money, if any at all. Therefore, if you (albeit begrudgingly) agree to this arrangement, then we will agree to slide extra cashish in the event that the party is a boom (rather than a bust.) The party starts at 10pm. I look forward to reading your respose. Thanks, Eric. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:17:17 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Suck me Plasmsa #4Re: 'sup (fwd) Ha! Use my sampler. This here should have tipped me off that these guys didn't have a clue. (Not that I wouldn't have let Baby Ford use it.) ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 18:07:04 EST From:plasma1000@aol.com To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Re: 'sup Joe- I've been meaning to get your email address, but you've beaten me to it. Please send the contract to my house at 942 24th St. NW, Washington, DC 20037 (c/o Plasma). Could you please email me your home address so that we can send you some flyers... Rob will be in LA next week and he will be sending them wherever needed. Also, do you have a sampler that we could use for Baby Ford? He has asked us to provide him with some pretty esoteric equipment which I believe would be quite expensive for us to get. Would it be possible for him to use some of your stuff? Please let me know. Thanks, Plasma ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:19:19 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Bite my azz Plasma!Re: Contract, times, etc. (fwd) All I gotta say for this one is the above. ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 31 Mar 94 11:53:53 EST From:plasma1000@aol.com To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Re: Contract, times, etc. Joe, Sorry about the slow response. Rob has signed your contract and told me that he has sent it off. We still haven't done the time schedule yet, but you can rest assured that you will get a time slot which will be favorable to you and your fans. Later, Eric. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:22:47 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Bite my azz Plasma!Pleasuresound (fwd) And lastly....... ~ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 23:27:44 -0400 From: Veronica E. Martins To: raver909@telerama.lm.com Subject: Pleasuresound Joe- the sound will be set up early in the day, so it would be best for you to get there before 8 or 9pm for a sound check. Thanks..... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:29:38 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Previous messages, why? Well I posted the previous messages from our favorite dipstick promoter for a couple reasons. 1. So you can see what transpired over the months/weeks between the promoter and I. 2. So you can see how badly organized parts of the event were. (Like not having a sampler for Baby Ford!?!?!?!) 3. So you can copy down those snail addresses contained within them and direct the appropriate resposes toward them (hate mail, pipe bombs ,flaming bags of dog shit, you get the picture). have a good day, Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 00:51:20 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [4/11/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 4/11/94 *************** *********************** "Reviews by DJ John Avery" ************************* ******************************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat Records in Union City, NJ. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. Readers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to the store. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Never Leave You Lonely"--Diva Convention feat Michelle Weeks Unfortunately this comes on Test Pressing which makes it nearly impossible to tell you the label information, etc. What I can tell you is to BUY THIS RECORD ASAP if you even claim to be a house DJ. After about a month of strong play on the NYC mix shows (via import), this track is now ready for domestic consumption. Using the female vocals of Michelle Weeks and production very similar to that of Nick Stonebridge and Rob Nice, I see this track destined to be the next Robin S. "Show Me Love". It's simply that good. A beautiful vocal hook and catchy keyboard lines were all it took to convince me. Track this one down and see for yourself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Get Down"--2 Direct (SR-12238) Although hundreds of records have sampled Loleatta's "Love Sensation", this one seems to stay fresh. The producers, Bill Marquez and Anthony Acid are establishing themselves as strong new entities in the NYC house arena and this track will further their cause. Using the ever-popular sinewy bassline and a bouncy kick drum, this track gets its real flavor from the "Love Sensation" samples and a wicked organ breakdown that fits well in church-oriented settings. (ie. Limelight, NYC) The energy contained within the grooves could possibly be described as "hard-house" but we know what happens when people classify things so I'll leave it up to the listener to check this record out and feel just how strong this can be. And hey, it's not on import either!!! Buy it!!! Nuff said!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CUTTING RECORDS: "Turn Me Out"--Praxis Feat. Kathy Brown (CR-295) For those of you familiar with last year's "Can't Play Around" by Kathy Brown, this record has Ms. Brown using even more of her vocal prowess to deliver a strong track destined for late-night success. The "Extended Dance Mix" uses the full vocal work and keyboards while the "Swing 52" remix by Benji Candelario and Wayne Rollins just uses the hook and various other vocal snippets, along with a very hypnotic keyboard patch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FFRR RECORDS: "Breakdown"--One Dove (697 120 015-1) The "Secret Knowledge Tribal Edit" is for those who like their tribal with more of an "ethno-techno" feel and works to create an unbelievable groove. Using African-styled vocal chants and a dark keyboard barrage midway into the mix, this track builds and builds, layer upon layer of enjoyment. Definitely NOT for those who are still playing The Goodmen, but for those who have a desire to play quality cutting-edge music. Also included for more relaxed states of mind is the William Orbit "Stereo Odyssey" ambient mix. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NERVOUS / SORTED RECORDS: "How's The Music"--Winx (SO-20091) On side A, the second mix works a deep, dark, brooding house groove, making a new definition for house/trance. The keyboards on this mix work to create a trance-like state, only to be intensified by the repeated female vocal sample asking you to "Concentrate". On side B, the first mix is for those who like their trance/techno in the Detroit mode of doing things. This mix uses the sharp high-hats and snare reminiscent of Mayday's "Juice Bar" (Remember the original pressing of "Strings of Life"????), and keyboards usually associated with "happy" trance songs. "Milagro Del Ritmo"--Peak Hour Rhythms (NE-20089) Steve DeParr, who brought us "Faceman" two years ago, treats us to a more tribal oriented offering this time out. Side A gives us the tribal drums and percussion work along with vocal samples that sound Caribbean in origin. On side B, we get a house track that works a disco loop/groove (Still can't figure out where this one's from) to great effect and clocking in at around five minutes or so, this one becomes very useful. Whatever your specialty, be it tribal or house, this record will definitely come in handy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ECHO USA RECORDS / RAW FLAVORS / EAST HARLEM RECORDS: "Broken Bones Breakbeats Volume 1" (RF-9401) This record features ten breakbeat tracks for your listening pleasure. If hip-hop breaks are your thing, then this record will prove useful. Using samples of jazz and funk grooves not often (if ever) sampled, this record might even help those searching for that "groove" that no one else has found. "Oh My Gosh" / "Chillin"--East Side Hoods (EH-103) Skip the A-side and go straight for "Chillin" which uses the bassline from "Scenario" and vocal samples from Audio Two's classic, "Top Billin'". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MOONSHINE MUSIC: (73474.523@compuserve.com) "Speed Limit 140 BPM Plus Four" (mm 80002-1) All 12 cuts featured on this double 12" set, (limited to a 1000 copy pressing, so act fast!!!) are of the breakbeat techno variety. For those of you out there still into breakbeat, check this out. "Never Never"--Kellee (mm 88401-1) This 12" goes into female vocaled house territory and reminds me of early Inner City and Reese Project records with the Kevin Saunderson-like production. (I wonder who Kellee really is?) "United State of Ambience" (mm 80003-1) Although I'm not an expert on ambient, I do know that this limited edition double 12" contains some superb atmospheric ambient tracks using various wildlife and natural landscapes to set the mood for aural relaxation. A few uptempo cuts are also included, the most impressive being Rhythm Method's "Goa: Season of the Monsoon" and "Electric Skychurch" by Creation. Although an avid house fan, these tracks are of such high-quality, I am now wary of the ambient genre and the intricacies of each song. For fans of both ambient and ambient/trance, this record is a worthwhile purchase. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM (CMS) & the MUSIC BUSINESS SYSTEM (MBS) Database software specifically for Club DJ's, Mobile DJ services and people who deal with a large number of Contacts and/or Organizations. PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: MBS This system tracks/inventories music and can be used by a live club DJ, mobile DJ service or serious vinyl junkie. Features: unlimited multiple song classifications, release year, physical format (12", CD, LP, etc.), location (for large libraries), length (great for making tapes - determine the length of the tape before it's recorded), and optional start and end times - great for DAT's. Only enter in the cuts packing the floor. Instantly access songs by artist, title, pitch (BPM), song classification(s), release date, album name etc. There is even a recording design function allowing for custom tape management (great for canned/mobile DAT/tape management). (many other features not listed) PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: CMS For a contact, you can easily track multiple phone numbers, E-Mail address, professional designations, mate (sorry, only 1 @ a time!), multiple addresses and any length of (dated) random note about the contact. For an Organization, you may track the address, main switchboard, main FAX, Telex, random notes, etc.. Our system lets you associate as many contacts with as many organizations as you require. When attaching a contact to an organization, you can supply a Position, Title, and a start (and optional end date) of the position relative to the organization. Business dealings (functions, dances, raves, weddings, rentals ...) with the Contact and/or Organization are also tracked. (many other features not listed) REQUIREMENTS: Paradox For Windows, 386, 8M RAM, minimum. These systems can be customized for specific tasks. If this software is of interest, please contact us at: E-MAIL: cboone@uofcsmtp.mgmt.ucalgary.ca Voice (403) 278-5638 10AM - 10PM 7 days/week Mountain Time. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: bdavis@netcom.com Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com The Remix Warehouse: shawnm7768@aol.com Your Beat Records: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu XLR8R Magazine: xlr8r@eskimo.com Moonshine Music: 73474.523@CompuServe.COM Vibe Magazine: VIBEmail@echonyc.com VIBEonline@aol.com Digital Graffiti Records: frmp59a@prodigy.com George Hess @ ADM Marketing: COWBOYGEORGE@delphi.com Psychosonik/Wax Trax: pauls@bitstream.mpls.mn.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For any questions, comments, etc. please contact: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For readers in the NYC area, check out DJ Disciple's house show every Thursday night from 7-9 PM on 91.5 WNYE FM!!! Also check out, 89.9 WKCR FM every Thursday night from 11:30 to 1:00 for Reggae Rhythms and the Stretch Armstrong Bobbito hip-hop show immediately after, until 5 AM. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For back issues of the UPDATE, check the pub/raves/music/dj/dj-trax directory at the techno.stanford.edu ftp site. If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:34:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Fiend <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Let's take our scene back! How long will we keep supporting greedy promoters whose sole intentions of throwing parties is to make lots of cash? And even when we give them our $25 dollars, we are hassled by the security forces inside. Paying to be treated like shit, are we crazy? I get enough attitude from police for free, why should I pay to get the same from some big idiot whose steroids habits keep him in a aggressive mood all the time? I think it's about time we stop supporting these huge glitzy events, and throw our own small parties, or support those who support us. Events whereyou can bring water and food without being hassled, take your shirts off without being hassled, be able to go outside and re-enter, and most of all events thrown by people who just want to have a phat party, not a fat wallet. With all of us on the net here, I'm sure we could get something going and throw a small party once a month or something. I think its about time we take the scene back from these greedy fucks, before they destroy it... think about it. the fiend --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:42:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: Previous messages, why? In-Reply-To: <199404110531.BAA06214@brahms.udel.edu> It is in extremely bad taste to forward other peoples private mail to the list. This just seems like a pathetic attempt to clear your name as you were the most vocal of those promoting the party and attacking anyone else who dared question the intent of those involved with Pleasuredome. Admit it, you were wrong. they screwed you. Feels bad doesn't it? _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) flu'id (floo'-) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 01:58:29 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Previous messages, why? In-Reply-To: On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, flu'id (floo'-) wrote: > > > It is in extremely bad taste to forward other peoples private mail to > the list. This just seems like a pathetic attempt to clear your name as > you were the most vocal of those promoting the party and attacking anyone > else who dared question the intent of those involved with Pleasuredome. > Admit it, you were wrong. they screwed you. Feels bad doesn't it? > Yes Fluid, I will admit I got suckered however I don't think it is in bad taste considering circumstances. As far as being a "pathetic attempt" I disagree. What is pathetic is you and your smugness. Could resist saying "I told you so". I lost alot on this failure and you ain't helping. Go head stick it to me. Yeah now twist that knife again. Feels good to be right doesn"t it? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 02:46:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: Previous messages, why? In-Reply-To: <199404110556.AA22088@condor.CC.UMontreal.CA> from "Fred Heutte" at Apr 10, 94 10:55:23 pm Dans la Matrice, Fred Heutte a dit: > > I just want to say I agree with fluid's comments about reposting private > email. I know how Joe feels, cause i've been in that type of situation, and i understand his frustration and everything, but for the future all you people, keep in mind that it is not a question of bad taste or something like that, but simply a legal question (it's a no-no). I hope that Joe will continue to have faith in rave promoters and i hope to see him play (and other net musicians too) at a rave this summer (yep i'll be down south of the border a few times this summer). > And one other comment: getting beyond all the issues relating to P.D., > it's pretty clear to me that the *Strong* trend in the scene right now > is toward small, low-hassle, low-overhead events. The kind that all > of us like and with a little effort we can put on ourselves. Believe me, even small raves are LOTS of efforts. And the PD case is not that spectacular... One small rave i did was postponed once because i got screwed for an insurance clause. So, take 2, i have Laura and Slip coming from NJ/NY, i have 2 local DJs (plus me). I have a band (Fuzzy Logic), i have the site, most of the equipment, publicity is done, everything is cool. The rave is supposed to be the saturday. However, the week before, a big rave is busted by cops, ravers are beaten inside the site and outside the site (taped by an amateur video), and when the guy who was renting me the site learns about that, he calls me on friday to say, no go. Dont care about the deal, the money involved, etc... So, in 24 hours the rave is going on but i have no site anymore. I finally find a smaller place inside the same building, everything is cool, or so i tought. Work on setting up the stuff for 24 consecutive hours, then short before we are ready, the bozo from the other site comes in and says he will call the cops if we go thru with it. I decide, hell, i do it. However, if i had given up here (or the night before), that would have been the second postponement. (yes, he did call the cops, but everything was ok and they just took my name). Would people have flamed me if i hadn't been able to pull it together in time for a second time? It sure looks like that... This was not my first rave experience as promoter, but it was the last one. After that i only DJed in raves. Also at that time cashflow was short (hey, throwing a rave takes a few grand, you know), so when i ended up losing a bunch of $ i decided i would wait quite a while before doing another one. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 07:58:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [4/11/94] In-Reply-To: Your message <199404110530.BAA20365@holmes.umd.edu> of Mon, 11 Apr 1994 00:51:20 EDT john, wow! this is a pretty cool little service you've got here. i would definately like to have any back issues that are available, and info on ordering. thanks in adavance, sunshyne universal groove productions ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 08:18:09 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: Suck me Plasmsa #4Re: 'sup (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199404110517.BAA20264@holmes.umd.edu> Joe LeSesne writes: > Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 18:07:04 EST > From:plasma1000@aol.com > To: raver909@telerama.lm.com > Subject: Re: 'sup > > Joe- > > wherever needed. Also, do you have a sampler that we could use for Baby Ford? > He has asked us to provide him with some pretty esoteric equipment which I > believe would be quite expensive for us to get. Would it be possible for him > to use some of your stuff? Please let me know. > > Thanks, Plasma > ESOTERIC? we were supposed to return baby ford's rented equipment to NYC which wa o consist of an AKAI S1000 and a yamaha DMP-7. 2 of the most *COMMON* pices of gear around... i think he meat "too-expensive-we're-too'-lazy".. not "esoteric" btw: i'm really sorry about all the people who made he effort to get out to pleasuredome.. i guess now i'm happy that they pissed us off early so we avoided the hassles... thanks for robcamp for his space, quacamole nd neat videos.. peace >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:02:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Liza J. Weinstein" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Liza J. Weinstein" Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <9404091522.AA41427@moose.uvm.edu> I agree with Robin in that the music put out on vinyl is much better than on CD. I do occaisionally find good CDs as long as it's not a compilation, but a lot of songs from a certain label such as Delirium or a CD that you can't get on vinyl such as Drax. Anyone who says they mix Cds is silly. How can you MIX CDs? Where's the talent in that? I don't get it. Much respect out to the vinyl DJs who create their own style. -Tranq ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:08:26 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Phoenix Cybertribe, Phoenix May 7th, 1994 "...and when the great Phoenix is flying free, look closely at what he carries lovingly within his clenched talons. 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Weinstein" at Apr 11, 94 12:02 pm I don't know why everybody's shelaquing (sp???!??!) CDs....I really don't think it's that big a deal.. I think it's pretty clear that most of the "good stuff" can only be gotten through vinyyl (or gotten a long time before it's available on cd) but so what?? most people i know don't have tables (including me)... maybe get people you know to make tapes for you.... but, as far as for music i like....(or used to like :) my tastes are forever changing')_....i really like idm (intelligent dance music) related stuff....and it's pretty easy to find on cd (at least in boston, i'm probably pretty luck)...tons of ambient stuff is on CD (but many many things can be considered ambient...) i guess what i'm basically trying to say (in a very confusing way) is......there IS stuff out there on CD...there are ways to find and acquire them....you just have to spend the time to look....nobody's gonna just hand everything you want to you... if i were to go looking for "rekkids" i would have NO clue what to get (i'd know where to go in boston...but not in any other city)...so i guess i could say the same for records.............. anyways, hope that helps... just keep your eyes open. -handi (john) ps......has anyone heard of squishy designs? i've been hearing a lot about them recently....just wondering ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. 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Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:31:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: flameage my my my my my.....aren't WE the self-righteous ones! i knew this would happen, that certain people would start to get really cocky about pleasuredome...and what was unquestionably a major distaster would turn into a battle of "told you sos" specifically, i am VERY disappointed on how certain nameless people have responded to joe (187)'s posts on how the PD crew fucked up. instead of the understanding and compassion he should have gotten, he got a bunch of posts that basically said "serves you right" WHAT??? this id BULLSHIT, plain and simple. joe gets royally screwed over and we think he somehow deserves it??? of course he was hyping PD in his posts: he was supposed to play at the damn thing! any of us would do the exact same thing... does this mean that the other netravers who were part of PD deserve scorn for no other reason than they were going to be there? are you going to tell derek tiffany, valentin, john rainbow humphry, and jenn smeddy that its their own fault that they got screwed? for gods sake, get off your high horse already! the reasons PD went down the tubes has NOTHING to do with 187 or any of the others. dont you think he has gone through enough hell for PD without you twisting the knife deeper into him? he DESERVES our support at a time like this, not our little witty comments. he is one of us, and he deserves better than this. i feel so disappointed with this whole matter. i thought we were a family here -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:32:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404111617.MAA22825@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, Handi-boy wrote: > ps......has anyone heard of squishy designs? i've been hearing a lot > about them recently....just wondering i don't know, but i heard they're really cool. anyways, about cd's...if you spin at mobile parties (i.e. raves, any party not in a radiostaition or studio) you'll prbably use records just because you have the hands-on manipulation and since techno/house songs usually come out on vinyl first, and you don't want to be playing old songs. there is notably less control over the cd when mixing than a record, which will lead people to say that mixing cd's is no sport. i dont spin cd's and probably wouldn't, just because there's a million cool things you can do with a record that you can't with a cd. but the initial post made by 1000 was saying that the sound *quality* is better on records than cd's. now, i know there's the thing about digital music on cd's losing bits of sound in the low resolution, but other than that, you'd be a fool to say that records have better overall sound. yes, records can have exceleent sound like the cd, but the quality deminishes a lot quicker. arguing that spinning records is more respected than spinning cd's is a moot point. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:39:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jacob Schoenly Subject: Re: INFO: Phoenix Whoooooaaaaaahhhhhhhh!! Have I died and gone to heaven?!? This event sounds phat phat phat! Seriously, I would say that this is one of the most exciting lineups I have *ever* seen, if you're into hardcore, hard trance, and hard acid. I have been waiting since the start of 1994 to hear Lenny Dee spin, and I'm finally going to have the chance. I was bummed that Galaxy 2000 is happening after I go home for summer, but now I'm psyched that I'm going to catch this. I just want to encourage anyone who is into this music to go to this party. Spice was the first party in this re-legalization series, and like I've said before, it was absolutely amazing! The music was 100% underground, there was a great vibe, and people were _dancing_ instead of sitting on their asses. If Phoenix is anything like Spice was, then we're in for a fucking TREAT! Finally, an event with not only a hardcore DJ, but more than one hardcore DJ! I'm glad that SOMEBODY is willing to throw a party without a multitude of house DJs. This is what I've been waiting for...... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 12:48:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: flameage In-Reply-To: <199404111632.MAA22959@holmes.umd.edu> i really didn't feel like getting into this, but hell :) while you could noticably see that fluid and joe had differnces on this, i still don't think its entirely wrong to wave the "i told you so"'s in joe's direction. he was pretty nasty in his posts regarding the skepticism of some of the list members. in my view, joe was seriously asking for it if pleasure dome didn't end up happening. joe's posts in regards to the skeptics was the same sort of 1000% bustproof bullshit that the pleasure dome people were pushing. i don't care how many private email messages i see, joe should know that nothing is bustproof and by sticking his neck out to say that all the rumours about pd were wrong, well then, he asks for it. chris and jason, i think we *do* have a nice family in ne-raves. and brothers and sisters still have their differences. while its nice to aim for a perfect little world, its not practical to pretend like we have one right now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:08:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404111602.MAA22685@holmes.umd.edu> from "Liza J. Weinstein" at Apr 11, 94 12:02:04 pm > How can you MIX CDs? Where's the talent in that? Don't knock it till you've tried it. If your basic vinyl mixing skills are OK, a few minutes on something intuitive like a Denon 2000F and you'll feel comfortable. > Much respect out to the vinyl DJs who create their own style. Much respect out to *any* DJs who create their own style. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:04:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Peace ... :) Subject: Pleasure Dome & Everything Topic: My $.02 Why: Because we like you ... The present is firmly rooted in the past, yet we should look forward and not behind us. There is so much more to do, so many more good times to be had, so many more mornings to be spent watching the sun come up as we dance to the rhythms we crave .... Pleasure Dome is behind us. It's done and gone, and not quite the success we were all hoping it would be. Props to Scott Henry and Leiven@MusicNow for trying to schedule a party at Trax in D.C. for all the people who travelled long distance by bus (and sorry if not having it afterall gave you troubles :), and props to DJ Sun and the folks at Reel Chill for organizing and starting at midnight a party in Baltimore. Now lets hope that we don't fall into the non-productive, relationship damaging finger pointing and "I told you so"-ing that will do nothing but further divide a community that is supposed to be based in Unity. We are all aware of how disappointed we ALL are that this event didn't happened as planned. Maybe we need to face reality and realize that the benefit of the doubt will sometimes land you some trouble and that you can't trust everyone, no matter their intentions. Sometimes poor planning can kill an event faster than the authorities can. Caveat Emptor. It seems that now would be a good time to build on our strengths, and to recognise our weaknesses. I hope that the summer is as good as we know it can be. Back to the underground. Drop deep into the sound. I hope to see all my fellow netravers, the infamous CyberTribe, on the Chesapeake on June 2 as Ultraworld Rave's the Bay ... Peace, Love, Unity & Respect, Myg FreshMedia ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:34:36 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: INFO: Phoenix > Finally, an event with not only a hardcore DJ, but more than one hardcore DJ! > I'm glad that SOMEBODY is willing to throw a party without a multitude of > house DJs. This is what I've been waiting for...... I'd like to second this. It's been too fucking long between TRUE hardcore parties in NY. Looking back I think the last lineup that looked this good was STOP and that was a long time ago. Cybertek was OK, but this looks like a solid 8-12 of true mutha fuckin hahd koah (save for Keoki). Anyhow, I'm sooooo excited about this. SPICE was amazing and these guys are doing parties that are RIGHT ON MY TARGET. SPICE was HARD ACID TRANCE and this is going to be HARD KOAH AND HARD TRANCE!!!!!! And I haven't seen Lenny Dee spin since Cybertek. WOTA TREAT! YIPPEEE! see you all there! dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:25:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: free pd flyers! delivered to your door! we have 3 limited (obviously) edition Squishy Love Packets that include that wonderously humorous pleasure dome flyer! ooooooo, the value of these is growing ever so quickly, so be one of the first 3 people to send private mail to me with the subject header "gimme gimme" and your mailing address (like snail mail, geek-o :)) and you'll get one delivered to your door. totally free. just cause we like to light up people's lives with joy and happiness and ditched rave flyers. hmm...maybe one lucky person could get my coveted raveland flyer? nahhh :) chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:04:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: free pd flyers! delivered to your door! In-Reply-To: <199404111739.NAA23836@holmes.umd.edu> >we have 3 limited (obviously) edition Squishy Love Packets that include >that wonderously humorous pleasure dome flyer! ooooooo, the value of >these is growing ever so quickly, so be one of the first 3 people to send >private mail to me with the subject header "gimme gimme" and your mailing >address (like snail mail, geek-o :)) and you'll get one delivered to your >door. > >totally free. just cause we like to light up people's lives with joy and >happiness and ditched rave flyers. > >hmm...maybe one lucky person could get my coveted raveland flyer? nahhh :) > >chris > > Oh, gimme gimme gimme!! I love squishy! Michael Francois 2619 Eastern Ave Baltimore, MD 21224 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:17:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: flameage In-Reply-To: <199404111632.MAA22959@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 11 Apr 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET wrote: > specifically, i am VERY disappointed on how certain nameless people have > responded to joe (187)'s posts on how the PD crew fucked up. Joes posts were nothing short of illegal. Forwarding private mail to an entire list is in incredibly bad taste to say the least. > understanding and compassion he should have gotten, he got a bunch of posts > that basically said "serves you right" WHAT??? this id BULLSHIT, plain and > simple. joe gets royally screwed over and we think he somehow deserves > it?? I was not attacking Joe himself, but his ethics in dealing with the situation. Joe does not deserve to get screwed in the way he did, however, he doesnt deserve my compassion because in my view, he should've seen it coming. Maybe people will be more careful next time. > does this mean that the other netravers who were part of PD deserve scorn for > no other reason than they were going to be there? My point was, Joe was the most vocal of these, challeging people who dared to question the intent of the Pleasuredome crew. Joe said "Pleasure dome will not bust" and said that people were just spreading these rumours with intent to harm. Again, its not a personal thing, its a question of ethics. > i thought we were a family here Whats the matter? family can't take a little criticism? _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) flu'id (floo'-) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:32:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404111602.MAA22685@holmes.umd.edu> from "Liza J. Weinstein" at Apr 11, 94 12:02:04 pm Dans la Matrice, Liza J. Weinstein a dit: > > I agree with Robin in that the music put out on vinyl is much > better than on CD. It actually depends on what you want to hear. Labels that put out their stuff on vinyl only are extremely rare. Sure, you can usually get the vinyl 2-3 weeks before the cd when you deal with small releases (500 vinyls, 1000 CDs or similar), but you can also find lots of stuff on CD that will never be on vinyl. I do occaisionally find good CDs as long as it's not a > compilation, Check out FNAC compilations, Novamute, Tresor etc... Each month you can find good new compilations which will give you a good enjoyable/filler ratio. And since a compilation is usually a bit cheaper than 2 12" imports, it's a good deal. As for singles, they are priced at about the same price (at most, 1$ difference). Also, for ambient and other style with large dynamic range, CD is much better (Polygon Window for example is not a good thing to get on vinyl). > Anyone who says they mix > Cds is silly. Guess i've been silly for some years then... > How can you MIX CDs? The same way as you would mix 2 vinyls or a combo (including drum machines, sequencers, samplers etc...). It is just a question of cueing interface being different. The rest is quite similar in concept. You have a pitch slider on a DJ turntable, so do DJ CD players. You can go anywhere on the vinyl, you can go anywhere on the CD. You can see approximately what time is left on a turntable, you have a remain counter on the CD. You can scratch on vinyl, some CD players have scratch functions but far from perfect (but i dont see a lot of scratching being made by techno DJs...). On the CD you can memorise the cue point, loop a section while you cant on a turntable. As for pinching the center pin or slightly accelerating the vinyl without touching the pitch control, you have buttons to simulate that on CD players. Also, something that is almost impossible to do with a turntable: have both channels sliders up on the mixer, one song playing, the other is cued. You start the second dead on the 1st beat of the song (supposing you have similar bpms). So each have their own strength and weaknesses. I've been using turntables since the 80s and cd players since early 90s (both in DJ versions) and have come to use both in harmony, along with a sequencer in which i enter my own drum patterns, bass parts or even leads. > Where's the talent in that? Talent is in choosing songs and starting a mix on the right measure and beat. Beat matching can be accomplished by almost anyone with some practice, be it on vinyl or CD. > I don't > get it. Much respect out to the vinyl DJs who create their own style. You have good DJs and bad DJs. What they use has nothing to do with it. (oh, yes, there are also newcomers...give them time and they can become one of the two). Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:41:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404111633.MAA22978@holmes.umd.edu> from "secret agent #33" at Apr 11, 94 12:32:31 pm Dans la Matrice, secret agent #33 a dit: > techno/house songs > usually come out on vinyl first, and you don't want to be playing old > songs. That's mostly a myth. > there is notably less control over the cd when mixing than a > record, which will lead people to say that mixing cd's is no sport. If CDs did have that much less control, but you still can achieve the same mixes, then obviously you'd see CD mixing as an incredible achievement, no? In any case, that's a myth also. Either one are as easy to do (well, at least for me, but i can do more mix/minute with a DN2000F than with a sl1200) > dont spin cd's and probably wouldn't, just because there's a million cool > things you can do with a record that you can't with a cd. Scratching is the only real limitation i've found to CDs. > i know there's the thing about digital > music on cd's losing bits of sound in the low resolution, but other than > that, you'd be a fool to say that records have better overall sound. And considering the material on the vinyl usually comes from a DAT, the result will sound better out of a CD player. And considering we are not using audio- philes stylus with turntables, and something like 4-5 grams, after just one pass, the vinyl has already degraded noticeably. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 11:44:28 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: good techno on cd Tranq asks: >How can you MIX CDs? Pretty much the same way you mix vinyl. There are special DJ CD players with jog wheels, shuttles, pitch control, and samplers that let you do analogous things to mixing vinyl (except scratch, which a lot of techno DJs don't do much anyway). Don't dis the DJ CD player until you've actually used one. It really is VERY mucy like spinning vinyl. You still have to be able to beat match -- it does NOT do it for you -- you still have to have all the skills that make a good vinyl DJ. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 14:47:01 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404111633.MAA22978@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, secret agent #33 wrote: > but the initial post made by 1000 was saying that the sound *quality* is > better on records than cd's. now, i know there's the thing about digital > music on cd's losing bits of sound in the low resolution, but other than > that, you'd be a fool to say that records have better overall sound. > yes, records can have exceleent sound like the cd, but the quality > deminishes a lot quicker. I have a silly little question. Okay, remember that I am in know way a an expert on music unless it makes me want to dance (breakbeat) or go sit and talk with pals (house) (overt sarcasm for the humor impaired ;) ). Now, my question is this: Is there a difference in sound *quality* as opposed to sound reproduction between the two mediums? I mean, I know that reproduction is much more exact on a CD. But, is their a certain sound that gets created when spinning vinyl as opposed to playing a CD? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 11:57:45 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: good techno on cd Dan asks: >But, is there a certain sound that gets created when spinning vinyl as oppsed to playing a CD? Dan, by the time the music comes out through an over-driven mixer and an improperly-EQued sound system, who the heck can tell the difference. Rave-sized sound systems -- even when tweaked by the best sound men -- are still so appallingly bad when compared to audiophile equipment that it just doesn't matter. Even though I clean my recores every time I use them, they still get nasty little blips and pops in them. Maybe *that* is the special vinyl je ne sais quoi :-). Laura ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:05:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Previous messages, why? In-Reply-To: <199404110646.CAA20593@holmes.umd.edu> I have to agree with the others before me. Posting of private email is, if not illegal, highly unethical. Please do not post private mail (without permission from the originator) to NE Raves. This is a fairly standard convention among all Internet forums, please follow it. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:11:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: NE-RAVES: error report from AOL.COM (fwd) Just to let you know that I am removing plasma1000. This is NOT because of the Pleasure Dome thing, NE Raves is an open forum for discusion for all interested parties. But his account is bouncing and AOL is indicating the account does not exist anymore. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:05:10 -0400 From: BITNET list server at UMDD To: ANARCHY@GLUE.umd.edu Subject: NE-RAVES: error report from AOL.COM The enclosed mail file, found in the NE-RAVES reader and shown under the spoolid 5056 in the console log, has been identified as a possible delivery error notice for the following reason: mail origin is listed in "Filter=" list header keyword (or its default value for NE-RAVES). ------------------------- Message in error (57 lines) ------------------------- Received: from mailgate.prod.aol.net by UMDD.UMD.EDU ; 11 Apr 94 15:05:06 EDT Received: by mailgate.prod.aol.net (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA06539; Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:03:00 -0400 From: Postmaster@aol.com X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "Postmaster" Message-Id: <9404111502.tn637047@aol.com> To: NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 15:02:57 EDT Subject: Returned Mail: Member unknown: plasma1000 The mail you sent could not be delivered; it was addressed to an unknown AOL user (plasma1000). The text you sent follows... Dan asks: >But, is there a certain sound that gets created when spinning vinyl as oppsed to playing a CD? Dan, by the time the music comes out through an over-driven mixer and an improperly-EQued sound system, who the heck can tell the difference. Rave-sized sound systems -- even when tweaked by the best sound men -- are still so appallingly bad when compared to audiophile equipment that it just doesn't matter. Even though I clean my recores every time I use them, they still get nasty little blips and pops in them. Maybe *that* is the special vinyl je ne sais quoi :-). Laura ----------------------- Headers ------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 15:30:24 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: Let's take our scene back! In-Reply-To: <9404110538.AA90418@acs.bu.edu>; from "The Fiend" at Apr 11, 94 1:34 am > > How long will we keep supporting greedy promoters whose sole intentions o f > throwing parties is to make lots of cash? And even when we give them our $25 > > I think it's about time we stop supporting these huge glitzy events, and > throw our own small parties, or support those who support us. Events whereyou > can bring water and food without being hassled, take your shirts off without > being hassled, be able to go outside and re-enter, and most of all events > thrown by people who just want to have a phat party, not a fat wallet. > > With all of us on the net here, I'm sure we could get something going and > throw a small party once a month or something. I think its about time we take > the scene back from these greedy fucks, before they destroy it... > > think about it. > > the fiend > well, i just wanted to post to the net, that the april 23rd full moon rave is going to happen. the dj's are confirmed, it will be outdoors providing we have good weather. this will be a monthly event, and it is put on for the sole intent of having a phat party, not a fat wallet. i hope people will join us. fish just posted the promoters addresses/phone#'s contact them for passes. thanks for your time. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:04:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , James Clyde Temple Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: James Clyde Temple Subject: pleasuredome?? Plasma1000 is wack!!!!!!!!!!!!! Chris Kozup put alot of effort into getting a bus ride together for this Rave, when negative rumors about PleasureDome started to go around Chris talked to Plasma personally- he reassured him that everything would be happening as planned (with the exception of King Britt not being there) and that everything was set and would go on without problems. So Chris went ahead and took 47 excited, anxious people (mostly college students with very little money, and many of them first time Rave attenders) on a bus from Athens, Ohio to Baltimore only to find that no one ever got permits for the building. Who the fuck trys to put on a Rave without permits and doesn't expect it to get busted, and who the fuck would let it happen twice?--Plasma1000! He disappointed the hell out alot a rad, nice, good attituded people. He also cost alot of people alot of time and money. In our situation we spent about $1,500 on the bus, $20 on food over the weekend, and since it didn't happen we all had to rent hotel rooms so that we wouldn't have to sit on some street in the middle of Baltimore. As far as I'm concerned Plasma1000 should have to pay for all the gas money, hotel rooms, bus fares, and food that people paid in an attempt at getting to this Rave, not to mention all the contracts of DJ's, PA's, sound and light people, and loss revenues of vendors- some of whom we got to talk with and find out exactly how much they did lose at our hotel rooms and in front of alleged site. Plasma1000 has no idea what a Rave is all about (Respect and Consideration among other things) so I don't anyone should give up any of their time, effort, or money for his sake, or for any Rave he attempts to put on in the future. His address is plasma1000@aol.com- and I suggest that everyone whether you attempted to attend the event or not should write him and let him know how unappreciated he is and how badly he fucked over so many of our friends and potential friends. -JimB*B O.U. Athens, OH P.S. Props and Respect To Chris Kozup (Doodlebug) for having the initative and will to try to bring all of us to a fun time based on the good qualities that human being are capable of having, but which Plasma1000 lacks an understanding of. And if you ever want to rent a bus request as a driver Smokey Stover- he knows what's up and he knows these qualities. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:14:36 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Escape Velocity - :) Chinagrrrl Review of Escape Velocity, Lexington KY -------------------------------------------------- verbaly enhanced, condensed version Pleasuredome or Escape Velocity? PD had Keoki, Dimitry, Method1, Speed Demon, Rainbow, Derek, 1.8.7. EV had ??? PD was in Baltimore...which I know and love...EV was in *Kentucky* ??? No contest I was going to Pleasure Dome. But wait! One by one, names drop, rumours fly...martians will invade the PD areana and capture all the ravers and do horrible and cruel experiments on out brains (as if we don't do that to ourselves :) I hesitate...i wait...I am a dedicated Keoki fan and I vow that if Keoki spins, I will attend. I wait. Days pass, that martians plan their attack, the ravers wait for the word...the net is filled with fire and flamage. I wait. One by one, I hear that some of the DJ on the PD flyer are at EV. Rumours on the net about Keoki are spoken...I think. Method 1 gets a PA at EV. This is a big draw for me as I love him almost as much as Keoki. :) He send me email listing reason for me to go. Hossam starts in too...as to many vravers...the chant is GO TO ESCAPE VELOCITY, GO TO ESCAPE as do many vravers...that chant is GO TO ESCAPE VELOCITY, GO TO ESCAPE VELOCITY...hmmm. Kentucky? What could be good about Kentucky? Two days before...i call Keoki to try and find out if he is going to spin or not...as I expected i get no return phone call (i don't know him all that well.) So I agree to go to Escape Velocity...there are horrays and shouts and /S and /H around. Friday evening i drive to Pittsburgh to hook up with Hossam and Jenn and Inhuman. Saturday we drive to the airport to get a rental car. We don't. I have 467,000 moving violations and there is a *DO NOT RENT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES* under my driving file. So i stand before my three traveling companions and tell then the news...with down cast eyes and shuffeling feel they go "so I guess this means we can't go?" I take a deep breath and think of my car...so dedicated it is the rave cause, but it is on it's last leg...it needs to go to the car hospital and I am being a neglectful owner. I say..."we can try to take my car." Smiles and horrays... We drive...to Kentucky (shudder) I expect to spend some thyme with Hossam and Jenn and Inhuman and meet some new net-ravers and enjoy myself, but NEVER expect the fuckin' insane party that ensued... jsquared is a god! or make that a demi-god as he fully knows what human-ravers want and need and is able to bring it through. I will let someone else give the details but I had a personal, intimate I will let someone else give the detalis but I had a personal, intimate relationship with a set of speaker stacks and a vibe crew that just would not stop! I caught this vibe at 11:30 and feared movement away from my intimate circle for I thought the possiblilty of losing that wonderful feeling might be too mucht to bear. Smiles, dancing, looks of extreme and intense bliss. Boris pouring baby powder on my shoes about 10 thymes... I didn't even get to talk to many of the net kidz because I was locked in this little slice of heaven in front of the speakers. It was so nice feeling that vibe so solid. It was so nice to be able to lock with someone else who had that vibe potential and grab them and draw them into the circle. It brought back the true spirit of raving. That basic, intense, euphoric and communal sense of tribe. It was great! Maybe Kentucky isn't so bad... :) Thaks to Hossam and Method 1 for influencing me to go. Thanks to Richie Hawtin who did insane things to my brain for *three and one half* hours. Ultimate thanks to jsquared for the party, the personality, and the hospitality...you are the best and I will support your endevors 1000% in the future. And to all the net-ravers and ravers alike who were there for the commune! Chinagrrrl ---------- the one with the *big* smirk and smile ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:48:23 EDT Reply-To: harrej@ccmac.canisius.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: PD - NOT (quite) a flame... Greets people :) Just wanted to put my bit in on the whole PD experience: PD was to be my first rave, and therefor my first view of the scene, my first view of PLUR in effect. Now everyone knows what happened, so I won't rehash it...however I do wish to add one thing. I went to PD alone (winks at a certain individual ;) and once I got there and saw that it was "postponed" was rather at a loss. I sort of wandered a bit and met JennBug (Thanks for the intros :):), Mars, and 187. After milling about I hooked up with some non-net folks and we started a caravan back to DC (The one you were in 187, sorry bout that, It was most likely the triple U-turn we did on 695) We still thought that Tracks was on so we just chilled at This guys (Greg's) house in DC till 4, went to, and got denied at Tracks, and back again to his place. Greg is a DJ himself so he broke out his eq and we did a little microrave thing ourselves. My point in all this is a that a guy opened his home and his compassion to 20 or so people he didn't know, to people from all over...George Mason U, Deleware, NYC, and Fla., and turned what was a potential disaster to a pretty decent time. Now that is the essence ( in my opinion ) of the scene. Try and look past getting ganked for the $17 and get to the people, it is there that the PLUR and the scene exists. Peace... Apocalypse __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ +===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================+ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Advertise | | Joseph M. Harre \ HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU - Best ~~\___ Here | | Canisius College / HARREJ@DELPHI.COM - Ok.. \___ Good | | Buffalo, NY \ HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU - If you must \ Rates! | | 14208-1045 / ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM - Only to annoy me\ JMH | \_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:48:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: FUSION 01 - New Music Release As I said in a previous post I heard this tape and really liked it. From the realm of the MidWest ravers, Fusion 01. Dan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ===MONOCHROME=== Subject: FUSION 01 - New Music Release (Also Available at Escape Velocity this weekend in Lexington, Ky) It's here! (well, not _here_ but close by anyway) Announcing the beginning of a series of performance artist compilations: F U S I O N 0 1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ A compilation of original underground dance tracks in a wide variety of styles...house, acid, hardcore, breakbeat, and ambience. A result of our ongoing mission to raise awareness of the evolving live dance music scene. With your interest this scene will grow. Participating artists include: 1.8.7 : Pittsburgh, PA recording artist signed to Music Now ~enhanced : Todd Sines - quirky ass audio synthesis monochrome : yours truly - breaks D.J. fEEd : Minneapolis, MN recording artist with Drop Bass Network King Size : Stephen Hinesman of Hard Stompin' Records, Cleveland Titonton : Columbus, Ohio breaks and house D.J. a.r.s. : improvisational ambience The Ninth Circle : darkness summoned from the netherworld b|Re : live electronic dance music, remixed by Adultery Un-Ltd. This tape can be mailed to the address of your choice. All you have to do is send a check or money order for $5.00 plus $1.00 postage, made payable to Charles Noel, to: ccode\monochrome 384 East 17th Ave. Columbus, Ohio 43201 Remember to include a return address so we know where to send your tape! For more info on this project feel free to contact me at 614.299.9529 - voice cnoel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu - e-mail respect to the underground... 5000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 17:02:20 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Krystin . Dauchy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Krystin . Dauchy" Subject: Need genius input! Hello there...i know this is a strange question, but I anm a photography student and am doing a shirt series on raves. I am not happy with what is being requested of me because being a raver, my photos look much like snap shots...to non-ravers they go "oh, and ah, so wacky." But pstttt... on all of them. So what I am asking is for *you* my fellow rave kiddies to *tell me* in a paragraph of 250 words or less, what the exxence of raving is to you. It might be a single event or feeling, or if you are a dj, what makes it so majickal to you. Or what the vibe is. Remember this is being developed for *non ravers* most of the people who will see this don't even know what rave is, so make the wording of your paragraph so that you can convey that great and magickal feeling to someone who hasn't go a clue! :) Thanks! China ----- f11 at 30th of a sec! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:43:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Need genius input! In-Reply-To: <9404112120.AA00942@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Krystin . Dauchy" at Apr 11, 94 5:02 pm Hiya China!!!! I was just wondering whether you were gonna put the type on the shirt or take samples or ideas' from the articles??? I figure....just take samples from whatever ppl say about ESCAPE VELOCITY!!! because you know as well as I do that it was one of the most beatiful and gratifying experiences.... If you would like, I can compile as many of the MW reviews as I can get!!! sound kewl???Whatever!! NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 18:12:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Schreiber Subject: Deep Space 9 inquiry From: IN%"$MAILER@UMDD.UMD.EDU" "Network Mailer" 11-APR-1994 16:23:01.77 To: IN%"MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU" CC: Subj: mail delivery error Return-path: <$MAILER@UMDD.UMD.EDU> Received: from Jnet-DAEMON by ARK.SHIP.EDU (PMDF #2689 ) id <01H9HVIEBVSG000080@ARK.SHIP.EDU>; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:20:38 EDT Received: From UMDD($MAILER) by SHIP with Jnet id 7277 for MS5414@SHIP; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:20 EST Received: from UMDD.UMD.EDU by UMDD.UMD.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5256; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:20:44 EDT Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:20:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Network Mailer <$MAILER@UMDD.UMD.EDU> Subject: mail delivery error To: MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU Message-id: <01HB1ZRN1AXS000080@ARK.SHIP.EDU> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Batch SMTP transaction log follows: 220 UMDD.UMD.EDU Columbia MAILER R2.10 ptf000 BSMTP service ready. 050 HELO SHIP.BITNET 250 UMDD.UMD.EDU Hello SHIP.BITNET 050 TICK 0001 250 0001 ... that's the ticket. 050 MAIL FROM: 250 ... sender OK. 050 RCPT TO: 250 ... recipient OK. 050 DATA 354 Start mail input. End with . 554-Mail not delivered to some or all recipients: 554 No such local user: NERAVES 050 QUIT 221 UMDD.UMD.EDU Columbia MAILER BSMTP service done. Original message follows: Received: from SHIP.BITNET (MS5414) by UMDD.UMD.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 5255; Mon, 11 Apr 94 16:20:44 EDT Received: from ARK.SHIP.EDU by ARK.SHIP.EDU (PMDF #2689 ) id <01HB1YUOX9XC007O0O@ARK.SHIP.EDU>; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:01:59 EDT Date: 11 Apr 1994 16:01:57 -0400 (EDT) From: MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Subject: Deep sapce nie inquiry To: neraves@umdd.bitnet Message-id: <01HB1YUOXJKY007O0O@ARK.SHIP.EDU> X-Envelope-to: neraves@umdd.bitnet X-VMS-To: IN%"neraves@umdd.bitnet" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hey everyone! I just got off the phone with modern music about the event "Deep Space Nine" in Baltimore this Friday, and they said it was going to be killer, and might I add, worth supporting because it is legal. I guess the people who are putting it on had a party last night and keoki spun for kick hours,WOW! It is in the same location as cloudwatch was and there are some good djs, including scott henry (you know its good and legal if he supports it), lg , chirs bulla, who (i think), and pj doing a live set, along with some others. It goes on from 10-8pm and they said there will probably be an afterhours. Also, I called the infor line and talked to someone there and they told me they gave keoki a ticket, so he may show up and DE LA SOUl has some fliers, so they may show-up, wouldn't that be wierd if they dropped by? I will be definitely be there, and would like to meet some net-ravers, since I didn't get to this infamous weekend. So, if you are going please respong to this post and maybe we can meet there! Oh, if you need more info, call modern music, (this is a small event, only 600 people-400 pre-sale+200 at the door. Modern music is not putting on this event, by the way, but their number is (410) 523-1882. Hope to see ya there! and please respond if you are going :) PLUR, Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu nosferatu/mikey P.S. Andy, if you read this, i know you will be there and will introduce myself again since you don't remember me from kick-it! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 20:33:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , VISCSC57@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: VISCSC57@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU Subject: subscribe Sub-calender I want to subscribe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 20:43:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jessica Ire Resnick Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jessica Ire Resnick In-Reply-To: <199403301515.KAA10533@holmes.umd.edu> hi all! could someone please write to me to tell me how to get off the list? I've tried a few times, but whatever I'm doing doesn't seem to work. This is only temporary; i just have to scan through all the billions of neraves messages that have quickly accumulated. thanks a lot. ---jess--- curly@brahms.udel.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 20:55:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , VISCSC57@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: VISCSC57@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU Subject: subscribe "Sub calender" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 21:50:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Megatripolis/Rainbow family >1> What does this Megatripolis US trip mean? What are they going to do? >Are they NASA UK? definitely not NASA... there is no NASA UK as far as I know. Megatripolis are a bunch of very cool people in London (a few of them friends of mine so I am biased :) who rent out a club once a week and have wicked parties! Are they coming to the US then? One of the Megatripolis DJs (also a DiY and Sugarlump and SLACK DJ) told me he was helping organize a massive trip to San Francisco but it was supposed to be this month. I've been trying to call him for days now but I can't seem to reach him and he hasn't written me either. :( If you have any info on this, PLEASE let me know! >2> The Rainbow Gathering. I am assuming this is something done by the >Rainbow Tribe. I heard that they had split along some wierd >circumstances (the tribe, that is), does anyone know which section of the >tribe is holding the Grand Canyon gathering? It's a long story for the Rainbow Family and I don't know all the details but yes, they did split up. The smaller, more rebelious (and I hear more fucked up) crew are, I think! permanantly in Kentucky. If you're going to any of the yearly Rainbow gatherings, you'll probably find out about two different sights. If one of them is for Kentucky, then this is the split off group. To add to the confusion, the main family members usually change the site just to deter the cops. Check with your local co-op or if you really need to know, I can find out for you. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 21:54:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: Re: Megatripolis/Rainbow family In-Reply-To: <9404120151.AA125802@moose.uvm.edu> > It's a long story for the Rainbow Family and I don't know all the details > but yes, they did split up. The smaller, more rebelious (and I hear more > fucked up) crew are, I think! permanantly in Kentucky. If you're going to > any of the yearly Rainbow gatherings, you'll probably find out about two > different sights. If one of them is for Kentucky, then this is the split > off group. To add to the confusion, the main family members usually change > the site just to deter the cops. Check with your local co-op or if you > really need to know, I can find out for you. i think the other sight will be in wyoming this year <<>> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 23:03:29 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Let's take our scene... On 4-11-94 Fiend wrote: > With all of us on the net here, I'm sure we could get something >going and >throw a small party once a month or something. I think its about >time we take >the scene back from these greedy fucks, before they destroy it. Excellent idea, man! I love freeparties.. the vibe is so much cooler! Would we have a central location, or maybe would they be all over the place (NY?MA?CT?.. nh?=) I think this would be soo cool if we could do this.. I'd be willing to help (if It's close to me, at least) Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:02:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Psychotic Sales-Flunky Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Psychotic Sales-Flunky Subject: Re: pleasure dome In-Reply-To: <199404080600.CAA02434@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 8 Apr 1994, Jason Szostek wrote: > Ravers, > Sorry but I'm afraid P909 will NOT be playing at Pleasure Dome. > But Dietrich WILL be spinning!! > You should check him out, he gave me his practice tape > and it SLAMS!! > Far out ambient set. Worth a trip to MD, but I will > probably go to Motion because I have two freinds from > CT to go with, and they'd rather go to Motion.. > Oh well, how things get screwed up!! > See y'all at Motion!! > Peace:):) > Jason > I just got your P909: Acid Technology CD today. Some kickin shit you guyz did there...it helps that I got a discount because I work at a music store.:D I would have bought it anyhow...keep it up, man. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:27:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Psychotic Sales-Flunky Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Psychotic Sales-Flunky Subject: Pleasure Dome I was so bummed out about my inability to hit Pleasure Dome due to my ride falling through that day. And now I hear this news. It actually really makes me sad to hear of *anybody* who got dicked over by the promoters, whether they were running trips, spinning, or even kept their night open so that they could go to this "event". I don't have words strong enough to register my anger. This is going to be a severe blow to the DC scene, and in my opinion sets a bad tone for any summer events. Ups to Muse/Ultraworld/anybody who actually honors their obligations to the rave community. Hopefully, we'll start seeing a few more positive influences, and less of these royal fuckups. -dt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:25:06 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: PROTOTYPE 909 RELEASE UPDATE just to fill you all in, P-909 has some new stuff coming out in the next couple of months. - new single, vinyl only, called "love sky". minimal, dancy, acid track.. much more stipped down and powerful than anying on "acidtechnology".. pretty neat... and some cool mixes too. - "love sky" will also appear on "trancefusion 2" out may 11th. pretty nice compilation featuring young american \primitive, sabres of paradise, NYX, orbital.. and some stuff from supterstition and labworks.. -"chillout volume 2" has our track called "understand".. a somewhat disturbing voyage into live (aren't we always :) ambient.. 11 minutes long of some of the most twisted and tweaked speech and vocal manipulations... odd, to say the least... (i will also have a new human mesh dance track on chillout 2 called "wet moon") peace. >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:41:36 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , netmag Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: netmag@AOL.COM Subject: subscribe request-netmag@aol.com subscribe request netmag@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:46:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Psychotic Sales-Flunky Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Psychotic Sales-Flunky Subject: gimmie gimmie gimme! In-Reply-To: <199404111739.NAA23836@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, secret agent #33 wrote: > we have 3 limited (obviously) edition Squishy Love Packets that include > that wonderously humorous pleasure dome flyer! ooooooo, the value of > these is growing ever so quickly, so be one of the first 3 people to send > private mail to me with the subject header "gimme gimme" and your mailing > address (like snail mail, geek-o :)) and you'll get one delivered to your > door. > > totally free. just cause we like to light up people's lives with joy and > happiness and ditched rave flyers. > > hmm...maybe one lucky person could get my coveted raveland flyer? nahhh :) > > chris Bahaha....I'd like to see one, as I only got the little postcards sent out months ago headlining the huge name supposedly appearing... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 00:45:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Let's take our scene... In-Reply-To: <9404120306.AA14677@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU:NE-RAVES@UMDD.BITNET" at Apr 11, 94 11:03 pm > > On 4-11-94 Fiend wrote: > > With all of us on the net here, I'm sure we could get something >going > and > >throw a small party once a month or something. I think its about >time we > take > >the scene back from these greedy fucks, before they destroy it. > > Excellent idea, man! > I second that E-motion@!!!! I would be willing to help if needed too!!! I'll be in CT all summer, so kewl beans to all!!!! and I'll supply the liquid RE-FRESH! (hey, kinda snappy name?) > > Peace > DJ Entox > NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:14:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: PD, picnic, and party at Rob's In-Reply-To: <199404110125.VAA18866@holmes.umd.edu> Well, PD didn't go down, but instead of bitching I'll relate my little experience as it turned out to be pretty neat anyway. I made it to the pre-picnic with a friend around 4 and had a great time meeting everyone. Eventually, the picnic broke up and we got a ride to Music Now where we all found out, to our delight, that PD had been cancelled. We were so thrilled we had to rush right over to Rob's and tell everyone the good news. Everyone was pretty esctatic, but we decided to restrain ourselves and hang out at Rob's a bit longer than planned. Dougie went and got a few 1200's and the party ended up being pretty darn great. I finally got to see some of the Cyberia shows, talk to a few people, and enjoy the vibe. Eventually, around 4, most of the remaining group headed to Tracks. Things got a bit confusing at that point, but it seemed that the attempted afterparty maybe wasn't there after all. Everyone went back to Rob's and went their separate ways. Since our car was on the other side of a long Metro ride, and since the Metro didn't open until 8:00, we decided to go for a walk and watch the sun rise. Needless to say, it was a pretty neat morning. We encountered some cops in the zoo, which we seemed to have wandered into in the dark :), and just got to check out nature for a few hours, which was pretty cool. Finally, we got bac to the Metro, and made our way home (I finally made it back around 11PM sunday). As great as the weekend turned out, I think I'll stick to underground events in DC from now on. It was great to finally meet some net-ravers, though! -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:05:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GILLJ@BELMONT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jamez Gill Subject: Re: Need genius input! In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Mon, 11 Apr 1994 17:02:20 -0400 (EDT)" <199404112103.RAA25991@holmes.umd.edu> krystin, while at this weekend i went into the video game room at about 7am to curl up on a foam mat and this little piece of paper was in front of my face. thinking i had seen all of the propaganda floating around at EV i almost tossed it aside but unfolded it and read the heading "what is 'vibe'?" okay so this paper is going to tell me... as it turns out it is pritty cool but perhaps not quite what youre looking for i would be happy to retype it and send it to you, but i would like to notify to author(just to be considerate and in case it is copyrighted: cheat adn steal from institutions and bunk promoters but NEVER from your own friends or tribe!) i can't make out the name of the author but i can read DESIGN HEATHEN MULTIMEDIA (damn vax vms system!) if that catches the eye of you or anyone else reading this email me or post to seraves and tell me the authors name and email address if there is one so i can contact them. be glad to help and would like to see a finished product if possible! enjoi the sunlight and dataflashes __gill gillj@belmont.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:25:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , modE@ALPHA2.CSD.UWM.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: modE@ALPHA2.CSD.UWM.EDU Subject: you In-Reply-To: <199404112144.RAA26213@holmes.umd.edu> from "NEd_Snappleboy" at Apr 11, 94 04:43:33 pm NEd_Snappleboy III writes: : I figure....just take samples from whatever ppl say about : ESCAPE VELOCITY!!! : : because you know as well as I do that it was one of the most beatiful :and gratifying experiences.... you were there!!! i asked around and everyone said you were suppose to be but i never saw you. where do you live anyway? are you going to 2008? dan. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 14:07:48 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: SPUTNIK IV Teaser! SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS SPUTNIK IV JUNE 11th,1994 Confirmed DJ's : ABRAXIS - Fierce Ruling Diva/Amsterdam FRANKIE BONES - Groove Records/NYC DERRICK CARTER - Chicago SCOTT HENRY - D.C./Baltimore JOSH WINK - Philadelphia JOHN ACQUAVIVA - +8 Records/Detroit/Toronto DJ EFX/DJ DIGIT - San Francisco (on 4 turntables) * Other international DJ's to be announced * INFO LINE: (212) 465-3299 ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 13:59:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: you In-Reply-To: <9404121725.AA27658@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "modE@ALPHA2.CSD.UWM.EDU" at Apr 12, 94 12:25 pm > > you were there!!! i asked around and everyone said you were suppose to be but i > never saw you. > > where do you live anyway? are you going to 2008? > > dan. Hell yeah I was there!!!! I was right across from Jason/Method1's set-up! I had the snapples going at about 3am!!! As for 2008, I'm not gonna go. Jay and Sho are putting on an event in Lafayette, so I wanna support them all the way! By the way...that's where I am right now....West Lafayette, Indiana. Purdue University!!! YUCK! If anyone is interested in coming, and wants some crash space just tell me!! I can give it to ya! My room is your room!!! MY SNAPPLE IS YOUR SNAPPLE!!!! NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 15:19:51 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: looking for some people! If anyone out there knows and can get me in contact with either of these two people, please write me back! Ian Kelly - Plainfield, MA Rene Soto - NJ thanks :) groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:06:21 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: PROTOTYPE 909 RELEASE UPDATE In-Reply-To: <199404120432.AAA28844@holmes.umd.edu> 1On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > just to fill you all in, P-909 has some new stuff coming out in the next > couple of months. Hey, how do we know we can trust your information? Who's your source? Do you know someone at Instinct? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:08:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jacob Schoenly Subject: wizardry Hey, Does anybody have a flyer for an event called "Wizardry" happening at the end of this month? If so, I would really appreciate it if someone would type in the information. I heard that it's going to be an all-hardcore party, and I'd like to find out who's spinning. Thanks. Peace, Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:28:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Badges From anarchy@eng.umd.edu Mon Aug 8 18:04:37 1994 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:20:28 -0500 (EST) From: danFREELove To: NE Raves - CyberTribe Cc: DC Raves Mail List , brendan mcdougall Subject: New Badge Info Information: Okay, first a little information on the badges. These badges have no real value to anyone except as identification. They come in especially handy when their is no way you are going to be able to talk over the bass and make great non-conversation pieces. The prices I am charging barely cover the production costs (lamination, creation, chain and ring). You will note that I am raising the prices across the board because I realized I am losing money with the incidental costs I run into. Here is a breakdown of the costs: Personalized Badges: Printing of Information : $0.10 Cutting and Lamination : $2.00 Transportation* : $0.15 Necklace Chain (3ft. x $.59): $1.77 Necklace Clasp : $0.09 Ring : $0.29 ----------------------------------- Total : $4.40 NE Raves badges #3: Cutting and Lamination (4 x $1.50): $6.00 Transportation* : $0.15 Necklace Chain (3ft x $0.59) : $1.77 Necklace Clasp : $0.09 Ring : $0.29 ----------------------------------------- Total : $8.30 *Transportation: The place I take this stuff to is pretty far away from me, about a 15 minute drive, so this is to cover me getting there and back. It is based on an approximation of my costs if I am taking several badges over at once. I am sorry I had to increase the prices, but after running the first series of badges I realized that the incidental costs were going to kill me. If you have already sent me an order based on the former prices, then you are okay and I will follow through with that order, but as of now the prices are upped. Also, a note on costs for delivering the badges. I will deliver these badges to any rave I am heading to, or I will hand them off to someone for you if you tell me to give them to them. But for orders through the mail please add $1.50 for shipping and packaging. As I have said, if you already ordered, don't worry about it, I will cover the extra costs, but the new pricing is in effect now. Now, when you order one of the personalized badges (DC Raves, NE Raves #2 and #4 (when available)) you need to put some information on the back side. Feel free to include whatever you want, I will scale the fonts to include as much information as possible. But remember, this is a reasonably small piece of paper, and you want to retain legibility. Suggested information to be included on the personalized badges: Handle Name Group Association EMail Address Telephone Number Pager Number City of Residence Pithy Quote The way it is listed out here is, in general, how it will be formatted onto your badge. Handle will be oversized, all text will be center justified, group assocation (ie Jenn-Bug would be ZooM) will be bold faced and the quote will be in quotes. :) Badges: DC Raves Badge - Available The DC Raves badge is a background of a posse of happy smiling yellow faces on an orange field with the words 'DC Raves' sprawled accross the front. The back includes personal information. It was designed by Max (Fierce Ruling Diva) of the DC Raves tribe. Cost $4.40 NE Raves Badge 1 - Unavailable The old orange style badges with personal information included and a window for difractive lens which unfortunately tended to melt during lamination. Unknown who designed it, Laura La Gassa probably did. Cost: N/A NE Raves Badge 2 - Available The CyberTribes most popular badge. This has the VR man on the front of it reaching out to touch something. Above him are the words 'Reach Out * Connect' and below him are the words 'NE Raves' and the old gnu address. Personal information is included on the back. While the address has changed I won't change the address until the image is cleaned up and I can redo the whole badge. It wsa designed and originally distributed by Taylor808 (Instinct Records) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $4.40 NE Raves Badge series 3 - Available A series of four badges sold as a set. The background to each of these is a field of the words 'Peace Love Unity Respect' repeated ad infinitum at a crazy tilt. Superimposed on that are the multicolored letters 'PLUR' and on each badge is a scripted word, either 'Peace', 'Love', 'Unity', or 'Respect'. Above this montage is the new NetRave logo (for incorporation into all badge series as a show of Unity) and below is the word 'NE Raves'. Personal information is not included on the badges and the whole series is sold as a set (to allow for a greater volume to be produced at a given time). Both the series and the new NetRave logo were designed by David Darrow (Chaos Lite Graphics) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $8.30 NE Raves Badge 4 - Unavailable This is still in the concept stage. Envisioned is one or two of the Peanuts gang (comic strip) dancing, in rave clothing or spinning some 1200s. Above would be the words 'Get Net * It Pays' and below would be the words 'NE Raves'. The back would contain information on the owner of the badge. Looking for someone who can draw in Charles Schultz style to create these things. Cost: N/A ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 20:40:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: Re: PROTOTYPE 909 RELEASE UPDATE You may not be able to trust a man who calls himself a fish. This rumor about a band called Pr0t0type 909 may be vapor ware, BUT, At least he didn't sell andvance tickets and run away with the money:(:( Peace "Be true to your scene and good things will happen"-The Motion Crew Jason ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 20:53:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Rolling Stone I was at the book store, perusing the books on how to unclog my sink (why pay when they provide such a nice reference library) when I looked at a Rolling Stone magazine. Yes, they did it again, the main stream press picked up on ravedom. It starts out talking about the SF Full Moon Raves, then talks about some of the other 'big names' (tm) like NASA, Moby, Scotto, Frankie Knuckles, Aphex Twin, Vapour Space, etc.. Mentions XLR8R and Reactor and explains some of the history of the scene. It ends with an inspirational bit from David Prince, the guy who does Reactor out in the MW. Odd that I would be saying this about a Rolling Stone article, but it was good. I mean, it wasn't about the drugs, it wasn't about the names, it was about almost everything. And it was good. I am scared. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:15:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Spiritual Movement 4! ok kids, havent seen anyone else with this, so.... Modern Music presents...... S P I R I T U A L M O V E M E N T I V ! DJs: When, you ask... Lenny Dee April 30! Onionz How much, you might ask as well... Dave Trance $15! Sameer Wink Greg Sargent Who --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Cloudwatch" [I don't get this part =)] DJs: Bobble Love Groove Wash ----------------------------------- smartbar visuals by: Psilocybin 100% legal, no drugs, alcohol, guns, bad vibes, etc... Tix availaible from Modern Music and various others I'm sure.... Rumor has it this will be the last... [I don't have the flyer, sorry this is so sketchy, but all the info is correct =)] harmon-e _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:37:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: PROTOTYPE 909 RELEASE UPDATE In-Reply-To: <199404122307.TAA05720@holmes.umd.edu> danFREELove writes: > 1On Tue, 12 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > > > just to fill you all in, P-909 has some new stuff coming out in the next > > couple of months. > > Hey, how do we know we can trust your information? Who's your source? > Do you know someone at Instinct? > > Dan > > > "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott > Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud > You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam > You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu > ok ok ok ok.. i grabbed this infrmation from the grapevine.. so i hear... ;) >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:40:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: Rolling Stone In-Reply-To: <199404130110.VAA06320@holmes.umd.edu> danFREELove writes: > I was at the book store, perusing the books on how to unclog my sink (why > pay when they provide such a nice reference library) when I looked at a > Rolling Stone magazine. Yes, they did it again, the main stream press > picked up on ravedom. > > It starts out talking about the SF Full Moon Raves, then talks about some > of the other 'big names' (tm) like NASA, Moby, Scotto, Frankie Knuckles, > Aphex Twin, Vapour Space, etc.. Mentions XLR8R and Reactor and explains > some of the history of the scene. It ends with an inspirational bit from > David Prince, the guy who does Reactor out in the MW. > > Odd that I would be saying this about a Rolling Stone article, but it was > good. I mean, it wasn't about the drugs, it wasn't about the names, it > was about almost everything. And it was good. > > I am scared. > > Dan > > "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott > Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud > You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam > You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu > hmm.. no need to be scared dan.. it sounds like the article was acurate.. covered the true scene and interviewed some pretty good people... nothin' worong with that! >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 22:20:19 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: PROTOTYPE 909 RELEASE UPDATE In-Reply-To: <199404130059.UAA06211@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Jason Szostek" at Apr 12, 94 8:40 pm > > You may not be able to trust a man who calls himself a fish. Hmmmmmph! I resent that, Mr. Humanoid, you! :) :) > Peace > "Be true to your scene and good things will happen"-The Motion Crew > Jason > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:25:42 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: Rolling Stone The woman who wrote the article in Rolling Stone that Dan referred to has been involved with raving on the West Coast for at least 2 years now. She wrote a very good article a few years ago on raving for Urb Magazine, and I believe she still writes for Urb. What is there to be scared of? The media is finally getting off it's stupid sensationalized high horse and and is getting reporters who know what they are talking about to REALLY report on something rather than parroting the idiocy that gets published in order to pander to "average" American fears. Rolling Stone started out as the magazine that understood what was REALLY going on in the rock revolution. For the past 10 years they've been sort of missing the boat. It's a good sign to see them publishing something honest about what's going on out on the musical frontier. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 22:34:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 4! In-Reply-To: ; from "danFREELove" at Apr 12, 94 9:52 pm > > When someone gets the flyer, could you let us know if it says 'Guarnteed > to sell out' on it again? That would be fun. > Well, I've seen the flyer, and it does indeed say that =). (teh flyer's got the same type format at the previous ones and the front has boxes made of the previous flyers hanging over a landscape. it's kinda like a recap of all the others.) harmon-e..pLUr! _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 21:50:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Rolling Stone In-Reply-To: <9404130142.AA07331@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "a big silver fish" at Apr 12, 94 9:40 pm I read a majority of that article...and you're right Dan .... It did seem quite good!!! I love to hear the positive!!! SO don't be scared....positive is kewl......even though at times it's deceptive!!!!! Okay...so I'm babbling!! PLUR NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 23:13:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 4! > "Cloudwatch" [I don't get this part =)] >DJs: >Bobble >Love Groove >Wash that would be a chillout room...Bobble and Wash are ambient DJs...I dunno about Love Groove but I would assume... >Rumor has it this will be the last... oh, shucks...that would be too bad... and yes...for whoever asked...'This Event Will Sell Out'...gee, go fig. and yes...the front of the flyer consists of old Modern Music/Tripotronic flyers...gee, I notice they left Earth's out...wonder why... :) and yes indeed the fonts are the same...and everything else is the same same same same same...oh well...I have finals right around then so I won't be able to make it... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 00:37:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 4! In-Reply-To: <94Apr13.001506edt.73063-2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "Derek Tiffany" at Apr 13, 94 12:13 am > > > "Cloudwatch" [I don't get this part =)] > >DJs: > >Bobble > >Love Groove > >Wash > > that would be a chillout room...Bobble and Wash are ambient DJs...I dunno > about Love Groove but I would assume... i was thinkin it was gonna be a chillout, but isnt "cloudwatch" like the name of some party(s) here in balto? oh well...names is just names harmon-e _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:09:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/12/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== This thing just keeps getting bigger and bigger. That's a good thing, I suppose. Hope everyone recovered from the letdown last weekend. (I went to Kentucky nyah nyah nyah). -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 04/11/94 - LOVE LOUNGE * - New Brunswick, NJ - (908) 287 - 8795 04/15/94 - PONG - Providence, RI - (401) 863 - 2925 04/15/94 - DEEP SPACE 9 - Baltimore, MD - (410) 727 - 0919 04/16/94 - BOOM '94 - Manhattan, NY - (212) 330 - 8233 04/23/94 - FULL MOON RAVE - Upstate New York - (???) ??? - ???? 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/29/94 - HANNAH LEE @ - Long Island, NY - (???) ??? - ???? 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 2+ 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT IV - Baltimore, MD - (???) ??? - ???? 04/30/94 - ATLANTIS II - Providence, RI - (401) 621 - 7563 04/30/94 - TABOO ACID 2 - New York City - (718) 599 - 4839 04/30/94 - SOUL - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 242 - 4230 05/07/94 - PHOENIX - New York City - (718) 390 - 8816 05/07/94 - MANTRAS - Princeton, NJ - (609) 258 - 7249 05/07/94 - A RAVE CALLED SCOTT - New Jersey - (215) 292 - 4666 05/13/94 - NO NAME - New Brunswick, NJ - (908) 287 - 8795 05/20/94 - THE AWAKENING - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 502 - 0660 05/21/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 05/27/94 - CARPE DIEM - Rhode Island - (401) 455 - 2104 05/28/94 - MAGIC - New York City - (212) 592 - 3687 06/04/94 - GALAXY 2000 - Brooklyn, NY - (212) 631 - 1065 06/11/94 - SPUTNIK IV - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 07/23/94 - PLANET EARTH - New York City - (516) 547 - 6129 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Monday, April 11 NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ (908) 287 - 8795 LOVE LOUNGE * Starting Monday, April 11th and every Monday thereafter, The Digital Deviants present... L O V E L O U N G E at the Bowladrome, New Brunswick, NJ Acid Jazz, Dub, Chill-out, Raggae, and Hip-hop 18 and over Girls free $3 for guys 18 to 20, free if you're over 21 More info, call: 908.287.8795 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 15 PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 863 - 2925 PONG Pong Technology Counsel in association with Borrowed Productions present a Techfest April 13-15, culminating in a multi-discipline dance P O N G "a video first" April 15, 1994 10pm - 2 am (after hours possible) (401) 863-2925 $3 at the door beats by Gravity Fresh Blend live performance by Perfessor [sic] Shea and his ostinado device visuals by Ja-shwa, Krispy Kris, Springarnkoff, Mr. Yee Two video rooms, dancefloors with live projection feeds, trully live graphics with audience participation, and quadrophonic sound. Location: List Gallery, College st., Providence, RI Directions from points South and North: Take I-95 towards Providence Once in Providence vicinity, take I-195 East exit Once on I-195 East, take *exit 1* on right Once off of the ramp, take the first right over a bridge Take a left at the stoplight Take the first right Go straight up the hill List Gallery will be the second building on the left at the top of the hill, on College st. [That's it, kids. This is a small event being put together by some people in the music department here at school. Let me note that from the sound of it, this event will be extremely heavy on visuals, although I'm still not completely sure how complicated and involving they'll be. - Matt, DJFB] _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 15 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 727 - 0919 DEEP SPACE 9 Deep Space 9 a manipulation of space and time with an array of interactive environments sound providers area 1 area 2 SCOTT HENRY PJ BOBBLE LOVE GROVE ( LG) DJ WHO WASH CHRIS BULLA image installations by --penta systems-- friday april 15 * baltimore * 10 pm 24 hour information 410-727-0919 600 tickets available $8 in advance $10 at door _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 16 MANHATTAN, NY (212) 330 - 8233 BOOM '94 BOOM '94 MANHATTAN LOCATION APRIL 16TH 1994 INFO LINE 212-330-8233 FOR TICKET LOCATION AND INFO DJ Line up as of 4/5/94 SPUN from Wicked Crew (SF) - MOBY - JIMMY CRASH DB - ON-E - RYDE & JOESKI - SUN from Ultraworld MR. KLEEN - ENTITY (Ultraworld) + SCOTTO LIVE! - VAPOUR SPACE It's Earth Day and The 51st aniversary of Albert Hoffman's Bike ride. Trippy Video (Many Layers of PHUN) By The NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE fun@well.sf.ca.us Lighting and Laser programming by SCOTTO and YOURS TRULY woof@panix.com LIVE IRC HOOK UP (see separate posting) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 UPSTATE NEW YORK (???) ??? - ???? FULL MOON RAVE Gearhead & The Mission Crew Present the first in this summer's series of FULL MOON RAVES. in a location w/in one hour of albany, NY--a spot central to the entire north east, we bring you a free, Private Party underneath the stars. The space is amazing...far from society, and quite far from trouble. Surrounded on three sides by woods, and the fourth by open field for miles, and above by starry, clear skies w/o city light interference, this site is spiritual and perfect for this event. Here's how it works: limited attendance of 180. In order to gain a spot, you must get a pass from one of the designated promoters. This is not exclusively a Net event, though there will be a great net influence. All difinitive information that is not covered in this or subsequent posts will be available through the promoters by word of mouth only. The space is secure, we have the sound system (10,000watts) and dj's are tba. Most likely it will go for 12 hours: 10pm until 10am. There will be a huge bonfire, and possibly a chill out 12ft. high tee pee. Camping may be allowed, although unconfirmed at this point in time. Directions will be released 24hrs in advance to the promoters. There will be a 5$ charge per car & 15$ per van parking fee.....to cover our expenses. The passes should be available by Rites of Spring (albany, March 25th) from me personally, and the following week from the listed promoters. here are the net-affiliated promoters: PA: Jenn-Bug-smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu MA: Sprockett -kumquat@acs.bu.edu MA: Jetta vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu MA (west) Donato - donato@world.std.com RI: Speed Racer -jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu NY (west) Darshan - djesrani@center.colgate.edu NY (north) Cat - yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu NY (south) FiSH - squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb others will be added. At this point in time, PLEASE do NOT mail the above promoters in regards to obtaining passes. I have posted their names and addresses only as a means to provide general information, nothing more. Most questions will be answered by the next FMR post....have patience until then. Dj's interested in spinning... there are a FEW spots remaining. if you wish to be considered, you MUST send a tape. The only exception is if i have heard you spin before. send the tape (even if its only one side) to: Sprockett, FMR demo, 140 Bay State Road, Box 1248, Boston, MA 02215 tapes should be in my hands no later than April 2nd. If you wish to give it to me personally, i will be at Rites of Spring, Red, and Equilibrium. thank you for your time, I hope you will decide to join us. there is always something special about a FMR. Lets make this one amazing. -sprockett _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN KC & the Sunrise Gang together with Pandemonium bring you... ****10**** Saturday, April 23rd Celebrating two years and ten major events Portland Maine 9pm until dawn and then some! Under the bright beautiful moon of spring KC & Pandemonium invite you to our tenth endless night of PURE bliss, hands reaching SKY HIGH, DEEP grooves, and GRINning ravers. Join our CRUSADE for the blinding truth and a phat vibe! Declare your INDEPENDANCE, don't cry MAYDAY and journey with us TOO DEEP into the future, on our mission to make the planet GRIN AGAIN! (207) 773-6979 Look for our mid-winter micro-raves coming soon! _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 LONG ISLAND, NY (???) ??? - ???? HANNAH LEE @ Caffeine, in association with the Long Island Underground, present HANNAH LEE A place where dreams come true. Friday, April 29th, 1994 Featuring D.J.s: Frankie Bones * Keoki * 333 * Joeski * Omar * Ryde * Dave Trance * DNA * Sameer * and special guests _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 552 - 8940 STEAL IT! Special K Prductions presents STEAL IT! In Philadelphia, PA For info call 215-552-8940 $10 DJ's to include: Joeski King Britt Boy Blake Nigel Richards O'keef NoRyan Karl K Kaos plus other dj's presently being confirmed (we wouldn't want to promise any dj's before they are confirmed!!) [Once again this will be a party presented by respectable members of the Philly underground. The line-up at KICK IT! was about as diverse as you could possibly imagine, with every genre represented and represented well at that ( including several breaks dj's!). And STEAL IT! will be more of the same sonic diversity that you and many others have asked for. So I encourage you to put your money where your mouth is and support a party that will deliver you great sounds, no matter what your flavor is!! The line-up is being expanded to include several more out of towners and will be posted again when finalized. This is yet another party that shows you can have quality sound, space, lighting, dj's and vibe without having to charge people $17-20 or so. I hope to see you all there, thanks for supporting KICK IT! so well, we all had fun! -andy] _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 2 + 3 @ GSC1@Lehigh.Edu [rescheduled and combined with Timewarp 2] 9 p.m. - 6 a.m. (After-party to follow sponsored by LV Bass Junkies-Location T.B.A.) Come join us as we become "Lost in Cyberspace." All roads lead to the Lehigh Valley. ZONE 1: "MARS" ADAM X JIMMY CRASH JAMES CHRISTIAN DIESELBOY AND GEOFFE two-hour breakbeat in yer face jam w/ MC MIKE B IKON ZONE 2: "VENUS" WINK DB SCOTT RICHMOND GOODWILL MIKO ZONE 3: "NEPTUNE" URSOL LAZLO CONSPIRACY 3 giant rooms all in a one-hundred year old remodeled warehouse. 20-Foot Video Projections by HIGH RISE GROUP, Lazers by PAWN, I-Lighting; Concessions by Loop, Direct From Mars, Fusion. Smart Bar by DNA. Giveaways by Moonshine,Instinct, Nova Mute and more. Sound by Decibel Productions. Door by "Hoopla Squad." Security tight but nice. Doors open 8:30 p.m. Tickets available at door only night of the event. INFO./DIRECTIONS: THE FREIGHT YARD "FATHOM" 24-HOUR INFO. LINE: (610)433-0503 geoffe (610)758-9969 FLYERS by A&A in your area soon. Interested in Promo and want to get in on the V.I.P. list? Send e-mail to GSC1@Lehigh.Edu by April 1. DIRECTIONS: Take Routes I-78, 309, 33, Pa. Turnpike to Route 22. Exit at Fullerton Ave. Head South. Make a right turn(on to Tilghman St.) where you can't go straight anymore due to street turning one-way. At second light make a right.(Linden St.) At Antique Market sign make a left. Make a right turn in between the two warehouses(Court St.) and unite. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 BALTIMORE, MD (???) ??? - ???? SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT IV Modern Music presents...... S P I R I T U A L M O V E M E N T I V ! DJs: When, you ask... Lenny Dee April 30! Onionz How much, you might ask as well... Dave Trance $15! Sameer Wink Greg Sargent Who "Cloudwatch" [I don't get this part =)] DJs: Bobble Love Groove Wash smartbar visuals by: Psilocybin 100% legal, no drugs, alcohol, guns, bad vibes, etc... Tix availaible from Modern Music and various others I'm sure.... Rumor has it this will be the last... _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 621 - 7563 ATLANTIS II Submerge again A T L A N T I S An Oracle Production _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 NEW YORK CITY (718) 599 - 4839 TABOO ACID 2 On Saturday April 30th in NYC T A B O O A C I D 2 -an underground acid music party- DJ's: Jimmy Crash Denard Jo Jo Odie Scope Carlos Soulslinger Mars [ Yeah, this is me, I'm opening from 10pm til 11:30pm followed by Jimmy ] Only 375 tickets will be sold and MUST be purchased in advance at Liquid Sky, 241 Lafayette St., NYC Cost: $7 No Guest list or comps at door For Location, call (718)599-4839 on day of event _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 242 - 4230 SOUL Atlas Promotions Presents: SOUL in its finest form Saturday, April 30th, Philadelphia 100% legal, underground location * info 215.242.4230 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 NEW YORK CITY (718) 390 - 8816 PHOENIX Phoenix May 7th, 1994 "...and when the great Phoenix is flying free, look closely at what he carries lovingly within his clenched talons. It will be a new green leaf, not from an olive branch, but from the new fresh growth of the Sacred Tree that will be flourishing straight and strong within the Hoop of Mankind's new Nation." - No-Eyes CANNABIS ACTION NETWORK in KAHOOTZ with the Mental Unity Tribe proudly presents "Phoenix" SECOND IN A SERIES OF RELEGALIZATION EVENTS LIVE PERFORMANCES BY: X-Crash Temper Tantrum (DIRECT DRIVE) (INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH) first performance on east coast this year their first performace in NYC DJs FOR THE EVENING: Lenny Dee - Frankie Bones - Keoki - Einstein Jeff Abraxas - K-5 - Tera - Dave Trance VISUALS BY: ENO-ONE Phoenix HOTLINE: 718.390.8816 - GENERAL HOTLINE: 718.390.7498 PROMOTIONAL AND BUS INFO: DENNIS THE MENACE JOINT VENTURES/S.U.N. 212.629.2061 ALAN SANCTUARY 212.696.8938 UNITED TECHNO 203.646.6381 KORT-N-GREG 516.547.7118 EDDIE VAN RAVEN, JOINT VENTURES/S.U.N. 516.925.2011 CURIOUS GEORGE, TWR POSSE FBI 718.390.7107 DEANNA 202.452.7639 DAN D.C. 201.378.7501 THC PRODUCTIONS 215.602.2890 TICKETS $15 GO ON SALE APRIL 30 AT: groove records 718.714.5232 modern music 410.523.1882 liquid sky 212.343.0532 611 records 215.413.9100 planet x 908.249.0304 music now 202.638.1213 music shack 518.436.4581 FREE THE WEED AS USUAL 50% OF PROCEEDS GO TOWARD THE MOVEMENT PROUD SUPPORTERS OF S.U.N. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 PRINCETON, NJ (609) 258 - 7249 MANTRAS The Princeton Groove Possee brings you M A N T R A S WHEN: Saturday May 7th, 10/11- ?? WHERE: 1,000,000% bust-proof location in Princeton, NJ. WHY: 'cuz our feet are ITCHIN'!!!!! WALLET THINNING FACTOR: 0 (free) DJ's: HaZard (Boston/ne-raves) Will-E (NYC/ne-raves) Mars (NJ/ne-raves) Denard (NYC) Live Experimental Midi-Drum Performance by our own CMC (Computer Music Composer) DJ DANKS!! [If you are interested, call the infoline at (609) 258-7249 and leave your name & number, and a time when I can reach you. We can have a pre-party ne-raves dinner at the location for a minimal cost, too. Come support the net-talent and groove with us! -Terence] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 NEW JERSEY (215) 292 - 4666 A RAVE CALLED SCOTT (212) 696 - 8938 Primal, 611, and Buzz present: A Rave Called Scott DJs: Scott Hardkiss (SanFran) Scott Richmond (Polaris) Scott Henry (Buzz) ..and these Non-Scotts: Robbie Hardkiss (SanFran) Nigel Richards (Horizon) other Scotts and Non-Scotts to be announced. info: 215.292.4666 212.696.8938 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 13 NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ (908) 287 - 8795 NO NAME On Friday, May 13th The Digital Deviants present... "N o N a m e" DJ Line-up: Spike Freshco DanDC Dayz-X1 Bananas Mars [If you're interested in DJing, call the info line.] Lighting and space by God Drinks, food, fun, vibe, energy by You Cost: Free Location: Outside, New Brunswick, NJ More info and directions: 908.287.8795 As Dayz-X-1 put it, "It's Free, it's outdoors...Fuck it, just show up." _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 20 ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 502 - 0660 THE AWAKENING DP Productions presents... A W A K E N I N G Friday, May 20 In the Main Sound Chamber: ADAM X - Groove Records, Brooklyn JAMES CHRISTIAN - Limelight, NYC MICRO - Caffeine, Long Island DAVE TRANCE - Caffeine, Long Island MARS - Oral, NJ GLEN GARCIA - Oral, NJ SAL V. - Oral, NJ Downstairs in Deeper Love: NIGEL RICHARDS - 611 Records, Philly SPIKE - Planet X Music, NJ JEFF MANHEIMER - WHTG 106.3 FM, NJ B:RAD - Vinyl, NJ BLACKOUT - Blondies, NJ JAH-RED - Blondies, NJ Mind expanding lighting and visuals by TDL EFFECTS [lighting crew for Nine Inch Nails last tour] 25K of bloody deep sound by BACKWARD AUDIO Smart Bar by LIQUID TECHNOLOGY Tribal Drumming Circle Admission: $10 in advanced, $12 at the door Doors open at 9pm, close late 24 hour info and directions: 908.502.0660 After hours by the ORAL POSSE [ If you spin after hours sort of music, e-mail me and I will get you set up to spin for this party! - Mars ] TICKET LOCATIONS: Planet X Music - New Brunswick, NJ 908.249.0304 Vintage Vinyl - Eatontown, NJ 908.517.0990 611 Records - Philly, PA 215.413.9100 Groove Records - Brooklyn, NY 718.714.5232 PROMO & BUS TRIPS: Outer Space - NJ - 908.506.9592 Angel Asylum - NJ - 908.972.6270 J-Fresh - NJ - 908.493.0172 Digital Deviants - NJ - 908.287.8795 Zoom - Allentown - 215.998.9650 T.H.C. Prod. - Philly - 215.923.4339 Alan Sanctuary - Manhattan - 212.696.8938 Kort & Greg - Long Island - 516.547.7118 Island Vibe - Long Island - 516.476.2520 United Techno - Conn. - 203.646.6381 DanFreeLove - D.C. - 202.973.2109 TranceFused - Richmond - 804.768.2000 [ If you're interested in promoting or running a bus trip e-mail Mars at: a176@lehigh.edu We especially need help in Upstate NY, the Boston area, and further west into Pittsburg and Ohio. THANX! ] This party is going to be sooooo phat, you have to come out for it!!!! Hope to see many net ravers! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW the Reaction Chamber the Phat room DJ SUN OSHEEN SCOTT HENRY F I L ASTROBOY TERRY MULLEN DAVID J + 2 MORE T.B.A. GREG SEARGENT + 2 MORE T.B.A. the COOLANT AREA ENTITY \ ____ LIVE AMBIENT WORDMOSES / + 2 MORE T.B.A. the GOODIES: 10 WATT LASER INTELLIBEAMS IN ONE ARENA GOLDSCANS IN THE OTHER + MORE COOL LIGHTING SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE MIND MACHINES SMART BAR LIVE VISUALS BY DOUBLE HELIX COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROJECTIONS SERIOUS BLACK LIGHTING (get yer clothes ready!) 1000 FREE GLOWSTICKS (multi-colored army issue!) FREE AFTER PARTY from 9 am - 2 pm 2000 of your closest friends. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 27 RHODE ISLAND (401) 455 - 2104 CARPE DIEM Fred Strong and Home Planet Multimedia present: CARPE DIEM A gateway to the here and now Frankie Bones Jason Jinx Adam X M-Gee DN-E Tiga Osheen Live performance by EBN and Funky Alien (of Colossal Amoeba) 10 watt multicolor argon laser and... 401-455-2104 Friday May 27 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 28 NEW YORK CITY (212) 592 - 3687 MAGIC Uptown Underground presents: MAGIC Watch us cast our hardcore spells May 28, 1994 Our sorcerers of sound: Abraxis Frankie Bones Rob G K-5 Adam X Narotic Future Funk Jimmy Crash Chris the Creator Dave Trance Einstein We've called upon these WIZARDS to cast you into Eternal Bliss. 100% Hardcore * 200% Underground * 300% Magical Uptown Underground Hotline ... For tickets and Info. 212-592-3687 Bruckner Records and Tapes ... Bronx. 718-823-8899 Groove Records ... Brooklyn. 718-714-5232 No ticket purchase at door. No admission without ticket. Tickets: $15 Only 1000 tickets will be sold for this event. Event starts 11 PM till... Nuff Respect to: The whole underground scene for making Cybertek the second best rave of 93.. Joint Ventures, Mental Unity, Back to Basics, Eddie Van Raven, Grrove Records, Bruckner Records, Alana Sanctuary, CAN, TWR, Curious George, David Dose, Under One Sky, Dawn, Germaine, Nicole, AG, SPank and Future Funk, and the fellas around the way. Remember, Always keep the scene deep down underground. Post Hypnotic Suggestion ... Cybertek II, SUN _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 BROOKLYN, NY (212) 631 - 1065 GALAXY 2000 (718) 714 - 5232 Brooklyn's combined forces present the goods GALAXY 2000 leaving earth: *Saturday June 4, 1994* Trancecore DJ's: Frankie Bones Jimmy Crash Heather Heart James Christian Adam X Carlos Tera Dave Trance K-5 plus guests and a separate chill-zone... *free toys and 20K of pounding noise* Respects Due: Storm, S.U.N., STOP, Spice, F.B.I., Motion Posse (LI), Mental Unity INFO PHONES: 212-631-1065, 718-714-5232 Prepare to blast off this June! *Brooklyn's True Underground Returns* And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK IV SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS SPUTNIK IV JUNE 11th,1994 Confirmed DJ's : ABRAXIS - Fierce Ruling Diva/Amsterdam FRANKIE BONES - Groove Records/NYC DERRICK CARTER - Chicago SCOTT HENRY - D.C./Baltimore JOSH WINK - Philadelphia JOHN ACQUAVIVA - +8 Records/Detroit/Toronto DJ EFX/DJ DIGIT - San Francisco (on 4 turntables) * Other international DJ's to be announced * INFO LINE: (212) 465-3299 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 23 NEW YORK CITY (516) 547 - 6129 PLANET EARTH Essence presents... P L A N E T E A R T H Saturday July 23, 1994 (516)547-6129 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "loops of funk over hardcore beats" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:17:15 PDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Chung Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Chung Subject: SF Raver needs NYC info Charles is visiting NY right now and needs some pointers. He said you can also send him e-mail - he'll have another chance to check it later tonight. Can whoever keeps track of the calendar forward it to him? If anyone has any specific tips or wants to play tour guide, feel free to contact him also. Thanks, Derek charlesk@autodesk.com wrote... >From charlesk@autodesk.com Wed Apr 13 10:39:35 1994 >From: charlesk@autodesk.com >Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 10:30:40 PST >Message-Id: <9403137662.AA766258240@smtpcc.autodesk.com> >To: Derek Chung , laura@soda.berkeley.edu >Cc: charlesk@autodesk.com >Subject: Re[2]: This Week's SF Rave Guide! (fwd) > > > Folks, I need your help. I am now in New York and raveless. > Help !! > > It gets worse. I do not have access to a phone jack so I > can't receive messages. I need you to call me collect at > 516-626-0832. Just tell Carol to give the message to > Charles. > > Thanks > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o derek chung o oracle graphics o dhchung@us.oracle.com o 415.506.6195 o ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:17:54 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: SF Raver needs NYC info Don't worry you all, I just sent it to him not five minutes ago, don't flood his mailbox. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:47:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/12/94) In-Reply-To: <199404131812.OAA13215@holmes.umd.edu> > And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! i've seen mention of this now on a few seperate "e-flyers" and am wondering what it means? are they saying for people not to bring blankets? the mention of it i saw last time seemed to say this a bit more than this above mention, though. is there a "blanket posse"? or are they dissing the people who bring blankets to chill on? just wondering... chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:57:03 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: blanket possee That whole thing kind of upsets me, for two reasons (1) stay the fuck home is pretty rude . . . I liked it better when they said "come to dance or don't come at all" (2) I looked at all the people involved and these are the people I raved with all last summer when I'd go with blanket, records, and car loads full of friends to their parties. So I feel in a way like they are dissing the ne-ravers . . . which doesn NOT make sense because last summer the Brooklyn people were really into us coming out to their parties -- Heather would even call me and leave messages on my machine telling me to post things to the net so you all would be sure to be invited. Well, whatever. I say go and bring your blankets and if they don't like it then let them sit in the dirt and the mud or on the cold concrete. I have a *feeling* they are referring to the people who come and sit and drink beer or do K all night, but I could be wrong. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:00:24 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/12/94) In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:47:33 -0400 from When people in Brooklyn say "and to the blanket posse, stay the FUCK home!" they mean don't you dare bring a goddamned blanket into their party and sit your ass down, 'cause everyone has to dance in Brooklyn. I guess the people in Brooklyn, who are used to seeing everyone dancing all night at their parties, don't want the "blanket posse" to bring their lame-ass selves to the party. At SPICE in Brooklyn on February 19 of this year the security searched all bags at the door and DID NOT allow any blankets inside under any circumstances. Brooklyn's just got it down every which way. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:34:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: blanket possee In-Reply-To: <199404131857.OAA13784@holmes.umd.edu> from "Laura La Gassa" at Apr 13, 94 11:57:03 am > I have a *feeling* they are referring to the people who come and sit > and drink beer or do K all night, but I could be wrong. That's what I think it is. I don't see them saying, "Come to dance nonstop for ten hours without so much as stopping for a drink of water," and for that matter, at the "toxic waste" B2B, I sat for two hours on a tarp with Heather, Adam and Frank. I'm interpreting it as another discouragement of vibe-killers, nothing more. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 15:56:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: blanket possee At 11:57 AM 4/13/94 -0700, Laura La Gassa wrote: >That whole thing kind of upsets me, for two reasons >Well, whatever. I say go and bring your blankets and if they don't >like it then let them sit in the dirt and the mud or on the cold >concrete. > >I have a *feeling* they are referring to the people who come and sit >and drink beer or do K all night, but I could be wrong. I wasn't paying close attention to the beginning of this thread, but if I recall right it started with the message for the Long Island party Motion. While those words were a little too in-your-face, I think they were just trying to imply strongly to the people going to the LI parties that they should really be there to dance, and not to just sit around. Which from the few LI parties I've been to that seems like a good message, because those parties have had a tendency to be stand-around events, with few people dancing, and those not dancing being disrespectful to the dance areas that have formed by cutting through rudely or standing in the way of those dancing. Future Groove was the ultimate example of that, and I was really starting to wonder what all these people were doing there, or what they thought the point of these parties was. Fortunately Motion was quite different, with a lot of people dancing and a good vibe in the room. Perhaps that kind of message is what it takes to make the typical LI individual get moving... kinda sad to think it, but whatever caused that party to take off was worth it. Incidentally, our little crew brought trash bags to sit on instead of blankets, since we knew that the warehouse would start sweating if the party got going. It did, but they wouldn't let us out to the car to get our bags, so we ended up getting muddy anyway... Phil Z Fish and Bob Baxter, you can feel free to beat me up (well, verbally anyway) for overgeneralizing about LI :) Hey, James Christian lives on Long Island! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:05:53 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Subject: Boston People Read This Let's get together friday night and go to Axis it's been a while and how does a pre-dinner sound? We could go to Uno's but the last time we tried that it wasn't very sucessful, besides the fact that the bum holding the door open took a liking to me. So, if anyone has any suggestions on where else to go for dinner email me or call me 521.1736 Oh, and for you vravers out there, Cspot/Chris Hilker is visiting from LA and he'll be there too... *hugs to all* jill ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:20:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/12/94) In-Reply-To: <199404131911.PAA13910@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 13 Apr 1994, Matt wrote: > in Brooklyn, who are used to seeing everyone dancing all night at their > parties, don't want the "blanket posse" to bring their lame-ass selves to > the party. yeah, only for the hardcore. real ravers sit in the dirt when they take a breather and they love it! everyone who would actually think about sitting on something nice is "lame-ass". [note sarcasm of above comments] hey! since people use their asses to sit down, why don't we ban those too! chris (who sits down) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 16:07:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gavin Barber Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gavin Barber Subject: Re: Rolling Stone I also read the article in RS, and it said a few things about a scene I didn't know too much about. The scene out on the west coast seems a little different because the weather allows so much flexibility. I'd love to give it a try sometime! Gavin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:51:02 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Gavin says: > I also read the article in RS, and it said a few things about a >scene I didn't know too much about. The scene out on the west coast seems a >little different because the weather allows so much flexibility. I'd love >to give it a try sometime! As a bi-costal-raver babe (thanks to Susie for coming up with the title, as she was the original bi-costal-raver babe) I can give a few examples of the differences: (1) outdoor party season is longer (2) all the mainstream parties are larger (I'll define what constitutes mainstream in a second) (3) in san francisco a LOT of parties are held in clubs, and because of annoying caberet laws in San Francisco you can't get IN to these clubs unless you are at least 21. This SERIOUSLY splits the scene, and in my opinion it is quite sad to see. (4) house house house. And I'm not always talking those hard cool progressive beats from the UK. Chicago style, deep house, and and very funk- influenced stuff is the norm. You hear disco a bunch too. These music styles form the mainstream of the rave culture in San Francisco. I've never been out in LA, so I don't know how it compares. Some techno/trance gets played in SF. The very small unpublicised free-or-extremely-cheap parties are into techno/trance. Breakbeat and hardcore (brooklyn style) seem to be relegated to the few parties that exist for 18+ or all ages. That said, the styles of music played change all the time, and it seems that more progressive and techno-y beats are on the rise. (5) based on casual observation, it seems that the quality of brain candy is better and more consistent than on the east coast. Not that I've ever partaken of any to know though. (6) Because of the age split thing in SF, the raving crowd seems either quite mature (late 20's) or very young (15). I'm 29 and I still feel like a young'un around here. (7) There's not such a large "stand around and stare" presence in SF as I've seen at the larger parties back East (8) as for other intangibles, like "vibe" or "party quality", all I can say is that since parties are so much based on personal taste and what goes on in your own head do not take to heart any statments you hear on such subjects. That said, here is my *personal* opinion: good parties here are just as good as good parties back east, and bad parties here are just as bad. Expecting SF to be some raving mecca is probably not the best mindset to approach this matter with. It's beautiful out here and there's a lot of positive, advantageous qualities, but there are also problems (most prominently in my mind is the age split thing) so the only way to know for sure is to experience it for yourself. If you have any questions or just want to talk, or even want my really candid opinions, feel free to drop me a line privately. Oh, and there have been raving fiascos here on par with Pleasure Dome, too, so it's not just a Baltimore thing. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:42:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Re: Boston People Read This This Friday sounds good for Axis. A few of us live within a few blocks of Axis so gathering can't be too hard. Uno's sounds OK but failing that there's always Nemo's. It's a dive but it works - I've been at pre-party meets there twice now... Are you co-ordinating this Jill? When do we meet for the dinner? Around 8-9? This would put us ready to go to AXIS around 10-11. Any earlier would make it *real* hard for me to get there ( hell, 8pm is hard enough and I only live around the corner :) Take Care Grant ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:30:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GILLJ@BELMONT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jamez Gill Subject: Re: Rolling Stone In-Reply-To: Your message dated "Wed, 13 Apr 1994 13:51:02 -0700" <199404132051.QAA14844@holmes.umd.edu> hey laura: (2) all the mainstream parties are larger (I'll define what constitutes mainstream in a second) im on the edge of my seat.. confuzed about "mainstream raves" in tennesseed country --__gill ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:04:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: good techno on cd oh boy, not again....... if we want to turn this post into a quarreling-ring for the analog vs. digital argument.... LET'S NOT!!! i can prove in a certain way the superiority of vinyl... i spent half of 12th grade on a massive research paper that supports the analog side... the research was gethered from several dozen resources.. the main one being Stereophile magazine. it all comes down to this... Digital technology tries its best to mimic an analog wave through these steps one would re-create a human voice... 1. Sound travels through air and creates vibrations on microphone diaphragm. 2. Micropone diaphragm sends varying electrical energy down cables to mic preamp. 3. Microphone preamp sends signal to ADC inputs. 4. ADC does several things, the most important one is the conversion of the signal into a digital code: 2 important parameters: clock signal frequency and sampling rate. 5. Signal is sent to a memory storage system and remails in bit form until playback. Playback: 1. Signal in storage system is read and sent to a digital signal processor (DSP) of some sort. 2. Signal is arranged into blocks the length of the sampling rate. 3. Clock checks blocks for correct length: incorrect blocks are either error-corrected or re-shaped then sent to DAC. 4. DAC converts signal into a fluctuating analog voltage. 5. Voltage is amplified and sent to external rpre-amplification circuits: such as that of a Receiver, Amplifier, or other line-level equipment. now.... the important thing that we should take note is to step 4 of the first stage, and step 2 & 3 of the playback stage. ADC chips are easy to build. One can get by with reasonably accurate conversion using 18 bit sampling operating at 48 kHz. 20 bit sampling is even more accurate, and for the highest in fidelity one must use 24 bit sampling operating at 48 kHz. The ADC part is easy because the signal is being converted from a simple form into a code that (for all the system cares and knows) is just going to be stored with no future care of playback. and... the playback part that MOST digital systems fuck up is step 2 & 3. For your signal to come back from the digital domain, it must be converted with the DAC clock running at EXACTLY the frequency of the ADC clock... see the catch??? the two clocks cannot possibly be running at EXACTLY the same speed. If the blocks of data are not re-formed,then what is coming out is only a fair approximation of what went in. Mark Levinson, Theta Digital, Melior, and several other companies make very high resolution DACs that do the most accurate job of re-shaping the blocks of data. THe cheapest of these units is (at this minute) the Mark Levinson No 30 (i believe) Digital Processor.... $13,995 fourteen thousand dollars for a block of electronics that has the sole job of re-shaping digtital info. and that's a bargain! the transport system that plays the digital medium (CD, DAT, D1, D2, 8mm, S-VHS, DCC, MD, HDD, and a slew of others) is not included in the price. for satisfactory digital playback... consult the Theta Data Generation II Optical Disc Transport... $2,999 what a bargain, eh? all this for sufficient digital playback... anything less is just an imitation. vinyl? anyone? 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:13:53 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: Rolling Stone In-Reply-To: <9404132222.AA00174@media.mit.edu>; from "Laura La Gassa" at Apr 13, 94 1:51 pm Not having been on the west coast yet.....i think laura's post was quite good....and just points to the fact that you create your own vibe wherever you are. if you're at a "bad" rave....it's up to you to make it good :) john -handi ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. 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End with . 554-Mail not delivered to some or all recipients: 554 No such local user: NERAVES 050 QUIT 221 UMDD.UMD.EDU Columbia MAILER BSMTP service done. Original message follows: Received: from SHIP.BITNET (MS5414) by UMDD.UMD.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 3506; Wed, 13 Apr 94 19:43:51 EDT Received: from ARK.SHIP.EDU by ARK.SHIP.EDU (PMDF #2689 ) id <01HB4Z90NTS600885T@ARK.SHIP.EDU>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 19:42:46 EDT Date: 13 Apr 1994 19:42:46 -0400 (EDT) From: MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Subject: Meeting place at Deep Space ( To: neraves@umdd.bitnet, dc-raves@american.edu Message-id: <01HB4Z90NTS800885T@ARK.SHIP.EDU> X-Envelope-to: neraves@umdd.bitnet X-VMS-To: IN%"neraves@umdd.bitnet", IN%"dc-raves@american.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Okay, after discovering that there are some net-ravers that are going to Deep Space 9 on Friday in Baltimore, maybe we should all get together at the rave and meet each other. Since there is not a smart bar as of yet at this event, we should figure out where else we could meet. Possibly a good place to meet would be the chill-out room around midnight, maybe near the entrance. If anyone has any suggestions, please write back soon! And for those of you who don't know about this event yet, call, (410) 727- 0919. Scott Henry, Who, lg , bobble, wash and some others are among those spinning, needless to say a PHAT event, and LEGAL, unlike pleasuredome! and it is only $10, or $8 pre-ticket, think of it as a way to start the weekend right before going to WIGGLE :) Hope to hear from you netravers soon! Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu nosferatu/mikey ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:12:34 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: Rolling Stone Gill was on the edge of his seat . . . I meant what constituted "mainstream" in SF. That was actually covered in the section "house house house" Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:15:44 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: good techno on cd There is only ONE problem with all this 1000. You are assuming use of high-end audiophile equipment. A technics 1200, even with Ortofons catrtridges, is HARDLY audiophile. A JBL PA system, while wonderful, even with crown amps, is not exactly audiophile either. I submit that once you get the records on your average DJsetup at your average rave it just DOESN'T MATTER anymore because you aren't dealing with the best possible sound reproduction equipment. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:29:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: good techno on cd Laura La Gassa typed these words of wisdom..... > There is only ONE problem with all this 1000. > > You are assuming use of high-end audiophile equipment. > > A technics 1200, even with Ortofons catrtridges, is HARDLY audiophile. > A JBL PA system, while wonderful, even with crown amps, is not exactly > audiophile either. also...even if you were using this really swell audiophile gear, doesn't the sound degrade faster on vinyl than cd....so even tho on vinyl you start w/ better sound, in the long run the cd will have better (or longer lasting) sound quality.... i'm not really sure but that's how it would seem to be.... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 21:49:51 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <9404140107.AA12000@media.mit.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 13, 94 7:04 pm baah, oh man, that post about digital being worse than analog was just awful, not to be rude though the point of digital is that it's good enough to fool your ears anyways. most people cannot tell the difference....digital and analog are better in different ways.....but one's not superior in any way. sure analog is "natural" and real.....but digital is cheaper and easier to reproduce consistently.... but especially at raves, how ar eyou going to know whether or not it's a rekkid or a cd....you can't ever REALLY know if you can't see what he's doing.... so i don't see what all the fuss is about. john ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. 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In lettering reminiscent of vaughn bode (a psychedelic cartoonist) it says, "ADDICT", with a mushroom-like arrow pointing down to the person's name. both sides are hand drawn. backs are only available in white. Fronts are available in yellow, orange or white. the information that can be fit on the back of the badge is as follows: NAME aka Handle (email address) and that's it. to order, mail me $4 in cash or check or money order made out to Joe Pitassi and mail it to 8 ponnagansett parkway Narragansett, RI 02882 and be sure to include your information for the back and the color you want for the front. the badge comes with a long ball chain too :) My company, Meddling Kids, is available badge production. :D stay fresh! joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 23:42:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Subject: Re: Escape Velocity - :) I'm glad things worked out on your end...since my account is chock full of NE RAVES email I figured I would take some time and relay a message from my perspective and let my words fill the accounts of others (probably to the electronic brim): Amidst the vicissitudes of life, a fortuitous nexus of events occurs... OK,I definitely was not planning on going to Pleasure Groan in the first place, due to the sketchy nature of the whole affair and attendant controversy. Having been at Buzz the previous evening I was actually planning on staying home for a little respite from the scene (physically, financially, etc.) in order to get some much needed rest and to catch up on a backlog of reading for my graduate school classes...(Sound like a familiar situation anyone?) Now, after Measure Bone was officially declared null&void (for all intents and purposes) on Saturday afternoon my friend Matt from B-more called saying he was having a small gathering at his domicile. Since he invited me, I decided to go up and pay a visit (ostensibly for an hour or two at the most...just a small study break, I rationalized as I drove the familiar jaunt from DC to B-more). Well, the party actually wound up being held at the space run by Matt's friends/neighbors (the Cloudwatch/Deep Space 9 site- a sort of collective art studio/loft/living space affair that imparts an authentic underground flavor) with Bobble and others spinning... basically a cool little house party vibe. Meanwhile, Reel Chill was opened for all the ravers who had traveled to the area searching for the event promised by the poster sized heavy hype flyers for Peasant Dope... quite a pipe dream rave it was... A healthy measure of respect and thanks should go out to those who put time and effort into looking into or organizing contingency plans for the scene (not for $), especially in light of the fact that they were covering for errors made by others. OK, so going back to the house party: Apparently Jason Jinx had been dropped off at the Clever Drone venue where nothing was happening whatsoever... somehow he made it over to the house party and a decision was made that he would be taken to Reel Chill since the club was fairly crowded and lively and there was possibly room in the lineup for Jason to spin (especially. when it became apparent Tracks was not going to do an after hours salvage for Treasure Blown...there were many who left B-more for DC who then had to turn back around and head towards B-more...) {INTERMISSION} By 5 am or so the remnants (myself included) of house party drifted to R.C. to see what was up and consolidate our energy with the other party. J Jinx was able to jump into the lineup and had a very good closing set that had the upper dance floor packed with moving and sweating bodies bouncing and flowing to smooth and beautiful music. Around 8am the Reel Chill space had to end the revelry (at least in relation to rover standard time...8am is merely the beginning... ) but the energy was high, so everyone headed back over to the loft space by Matt's and the after hours kicked up again. More thanks and kudos and respect to this group of people (I don't know all their names) for opening up their space (their home) for a loooonnng after hours session. Very generous and altruistic gestures for the benefit of all (hmmmm...these people deserve something special someday). I was also impressed by the positive energy and attitude that was generated by those people from hither and yon who made the journey and stayed for these smaller contingency parties and smiled and danced with a true rave mentality in spite of Puncture Doom...With the right people and frames of mind the best type of energy exists (especially when the spiciest, juiciest music is mixed in!). Now around 9am or so I figured it was about time to take my leave and finally go home and get some sleep and hopefully accomplish those scholastic tasks looming ominously over my personal horizon.I gathered my possessions and began my round of farewells but I did not make much progress...why not? Well, all of a sudden, who should come strolling through the door with a plethora of vinyl and a strong desire to spin somewhere, anywhere after traveling a fair distance only to learn there would be no Pressure Zone gig awaiting his turntable antics??? If you guessed Keoki, you are correct so you can just give yourself a pat on the back!!! Of course when he asked if he could spin a set for the party the the consensus was: YES! (no hesitation factor there kids). I've only heard Keoki spin 3 to 4 times before and his recent set at Buzz a couple of months ago impressed me and had me frenetically dancing the whole time and since I was sober I know my aesthetic appreciation was unobscured. As one would surmise, any thoughts of home, sleep, and scholastic achievement dissipated quickly and painlessly as Keoki started spinning...I knew I would be staying for the duration, so I put down my backpack and let Keoki musically manipulate my body and soul with styling mixes and an outrageously phat array of techno tracks.There is no possible way to adequately categorize the set... it was incredibly varied - music just full of electronic blips, bleeps, beats, grooves and rhythms and sounds that inspire kinetic movement and bend the mind a bit as well. A marathon session ensued: Keoki spun for over 5 hours!!! Note to the incredulous: this is not an instance of enthusiasm turning to hyperbole; Keoki really spun for that long. Talk about staying power and stamina! Needless to say (but I'll say it anyway) quite a number of individuals responded to the aural stimuli by continuous motion, dancing for the better part of said 5 or so hours. It was incredible, it was so fucking pure: No hype, no reliance on high tech lighting or megawatt stadium size sound setups...A couple of 1200s and a home stereo setup (125 watt speakers), Keoki and his music collection, and a room full of people with positive attitudes and energy to spare...overall I was immersed in one surprising and delightful scenario that was unexpected but appreciated and highly memorable. Now I have to get serious (relatively), get away from the net, and return to my studies so the end of this lengthy anecdote nears. I'll guess just wind it up by saying THANK YOU KEOKI, wherever you may be at this moment... Love Peace and juicy eternally throbbing sub frequency laden techno beats... Gregor H (DC) E! ok, ok... so this post was rather long... . What can I say, I'm an English . Student. I wanted to be thorough . and accurate.So there. <0 0> .. \(__)/ II ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:44:48 PDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: so long, and thanks for all the flash Seeing as how I'm getting a couple hundred posts a day, including som which are digests -- I'm still getting used to this "drinking from a firehose" thing -- and I'm 10 meg behind on other stuff, and I'm from the other coasts anyway (a Chicagoan in Palo Alto), I gotta unsubscribe. . . but if I'm ever in the neighborhood with any advance warning, I will surely check in. In the mean time, it's been a gas/ keep the faith, Neil ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:03:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404132311.TAA16156@holmes.umd.edu> from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 13, 94 07:04:39 pm Dans la Matrice, ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU a dit: > > oh boy, not again....... > i can prove in a certain way the superiority of vinyl... Well, not with what you are writing below... > i spent half of 12th grade on a massive research paper that supports the > analog side... Some people have spent years of their life on various concepts. Read Shannon, Nyquist and related for theory, and read Harris, Sanchez, Welland etc... for hands on experience. > the main one being Stereophile magazine. Check out scientific journals such as AES. > Digital technology tries its best to mimic an analog wave through these steps > one would re-create a human voice... > 4. ADC does several things, the most important one is the conversion of the > signal into a digital code: 2 important parameters: clock signal > frequency and sampling rate. Absolutely not. Sampling rate is the same parameter as the clock, it's the time parameter. The other required is the amplitude parameter. So you have sampling rate (which must be 2x the maximum frequency you want to recreate) and amplitude quantisation levels. With 16 bit, you have 65536 quantisation levels (with a typical 1V peak to peak max, that's 0.03 millivolt! You dont have that resolution in the majority of good mixers, so dont expect that from a scratch master or whatever you use. Oh, and more and more 18 bit is used, so that's 7 microvolts (!!). > Playback: > 1. Signal in storage system is read and sent to a digital signal processor > (DSP) of some sort. > 2. Signal is arranged into blocks the length of the sampling rate. > 3. Clock checks blocks for correct length: incorrect blocks are either > error-corrected or re-shaped then sent to DAC. Well, not quite. If you take the example of the CD or DAT, the clock will just sync everything together and a separate signal (fsync or l/r) will enable the DAC which will at that moment convert the digital value (usually 18 bits, but could also be up to 24 bits - note that unless you have everything in liquid nitrogen, this is a physical limit of the analog stage. Just a plain 100ohm resistor at room temperature actually puts out something like 15 dB more noise than the theorical result a 24 bit DAC would give you). Error correction is done on the fly (that's why the more times you can read the data in the time the DAC does a conversion, the better you will be at correcting errors) by a DSP or an ASIC (ie signetics, crystal semiconductors etc...). > the important thing that we should take note is to step 4 of the first stage, > and step 2 & 3 of the playback stage. ADC chips are easy to build. Tell that to codecs makers. At 24 bits, you need to do 1.4E12 voltage comparisons per seconds. It's quite a challenge. > get by with reasonably accurate conversion using 18 bit sampling operating > at 48 kHz. 20 bit sampling is even more accurate, and for the highest in > fidelity one must use 24 bit sampling operating at 48 kHz. The ADC part > is easy because the signal is being converted from a simple form into a > code that (for all the system cares and knows) is just going to be stored > with no future care of playback. ADC is the most difficult part. I've yet to see anything approching remotely the theorical noise floor of a 24 bit ADC. > the playback part that MOST digital systems fuck up is step 2 & 3. For > your signal to come back from the digital domain, it must be converted > with the DAC clock running at EXACTLY the frequency of the ADC clock... > see the catch??? No catch here. Usually it's overclocked at 256X the frequency of the actual signal to eliminate jitter. This is only of a concern on non jitter correcting digital links like those digital Toslink on cheap CD players with digital out because you have an async communication. However, inside the CD player itself, you have a total sync between the dsp/asic and the DAC, so the DAC is always enabled when the data is ready. So no problem with jitter here, and the DAC itself is garanteed to do the conversion in or below 1/2F (22uS for CDs). > Mark Levinson, Theta Digital, Melior, and several other companies make very > high resolution DACs that do the most accurate job of re-shaping the blocks > of data. THe cheapest of these units is (at this minute) the Mark Levinson > No 30 (i believe) Digital Processor.... > $13,995 This is only needed when you need to recover the precise sync from an async communication, like between a DAT and a CD thru an SP/DIF connection. > all this for sufficient digital playback... > anything less is just an imitation. That's what they want everyone to believe. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:38:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: have question, need responses... here's the big question: if there was a rave going on with an irresistable lineup, killer visuals, lasers, moon bounces, smart bars, cool shit to do, giveaways, outdoors, put on by ultraworld (with whatever that means), but the hours for the rave were 12 noon on a saturday to midnight, maybe 2 am sunday at the latest, would YOU still be interested in coming, having fun and dancing the whole day? or would the not having it be all night kill the whole vibe? please respond... if enough people would be interested in this, there are so many insanely cool spaces that have already said yes to the idea of rave, but only say no when it comes to the hours. i am personnally skeptical about it, but i am no one to speak for everyone, so give me your thoughts on this.... lonnie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 00:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Psychotic Sales-Flunky Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Psychotic Sales-Flunky Subject: Deep Space 9 Ride. Puhleeeeeeeeeeze I really need a ride to Deep Space 9 tomorrow. Please page me at 202-424-0293 and end your # with a *909# Thankyouthankyouthankyouthankyou Plug of the day: Buy any Prototype 909 you can get yer hands on! Its good! --------------------------=========================--------------------------- "Have you ever seen...a psychadelic circus?" At this moment is does indeed seem to me that it is with eyes awake that I am looking at this paper; that this head which I move is not asleep, that it is deliberately and of set purpose that I extend my hand and see it; what happens in sleep does not appear so clear nor so distinct as does all this. Rave on. /\/\ [dtripper@access.digex.net] /\/\ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:31:37 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: <199404140526.BAA18451@holmes.umd.edu> ultraworld@AOL.COM writes: > here's the big question: > > if there was a rave going on with an irresistable lineup, killer visuals, > lasers, moon bounces, smart bars, cool shit to do, giveaways, outdoors, put > on by ultraworld (with whatever that means), but the hours for the rave were > > 12 noon on a saturday to midnight, maybe 2 am sunday at the latest, would YOU > still be interested in coming, having fun and dancing the whole day? or > would the not having it be all night kill the whole vibe? > > please respond... if enough people would be interested in this, there are so > many insanely cool spaces that have already said yes to the idea of rave, but > only say no when it comes to the hours. > > i am personnally skeptical about it, but i am no one to speak for everyone, > so give me your thoughts on this.... > > lonnie > hmm.. very interesting concept... i think it would be fun tho... i recall raving in the daylight at Elevation.. and, it was great fun... tho, i don't think it's *as* fun as late at night in the dark... it would be interesting.. id' go to experience it... >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:35:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: <199404140526.BAA18451@holmes.umd.edu>; from "ultraworld@AOL.COM" at Apr 14, 94 12:38 am People here in upstate like the idea and would probably go I drove all the way to Baltimore for your party RESOLUTION I would drive that far again for one of your parties it was PHAT!!! CAT (purrrrrrrrr) ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:32:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: have question, need responses... Hell I'd be there! Night, day, big deal! (the hours I live on in lab aren't exactly bound to make me prefer one over the other :) ) Just a few questions: where and when ? :) Terence ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:50:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: <199404140526.BAA18451@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 ultraworld@AOL.COM wrote: > 12 noon on a saturday to midnight, maybe 2 am sunday at the latest, would YOU > still be interested in coming, having fun and dancing the whole day? or > would the not having it be all night kill the whole vibe? i've always loved watching it get light outside when i'm still dancing. this summer a rave in detroit ended with all the kids still there dancing in this ally out back of the warehouse while the sun was rising. very cool, but i think its one thing at the *end* of a rave. i think a daytime thing would end up more like a picnic. i'd still come to an ultraworld picnic, though :) chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:57:11 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: sorry for the length... but THIS is important. i hope you all realized that activity in government is just an e-mail away. if you want to write anything to president clinton, you can send it to president@whitehouse.gov i just did, here's the response i got: Thank you for writing to President Clinton via electronic mail. The President is committed to integrating this dynamic medium into the White House. Although the volume of mail prevents the President from personally reviewing each message, the mail *is read* by White House staff. Your concerns, ideas, and suggestions are carefully recorded and communicated to the President weekly with a sampling of the mail. Our electronic communications project has been structured in three phases. Phase One established the Internet address, so that we could begin receiving electronic mail. Phase Two now provides a means for interested parties to receive White House publications. The goal of Phase Three, which we hope to achieve soon, is to respond electronically to the substance of incoming messages. Now that Phase Two of our project is complete, we are proud to announce the Internet address for obtaining White House documents and publications. The address is: publications@whitehouse.gov To receive instructions, please send a message to publications@whitehouse.gov (**do not "reply" to the memo you are now reading**). In the body of your message, type "Send Info" (without quotes); no other text is necessary. The instructions will be sent to you automatically. All of us at the White House are excited about the progress that has been made with this historic project, and we look forward to future developments. Your continued interest and participation is very important to us. Sincerely, Stephen K. Horn Director Presidential Email [You will only receive one automated response per day] Clinton's the man! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 05:05:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Subject: Re: have question, need responses... wassup lonnie? well i for one would attend any function officially sanctioned by the Ultraworld (but you probably know that by now). As far as the hours go, it does not matter...big juicy rhythms and phat ol' techno based beats and friends to dance with are what is important to me (even fancy lightshows and moonwalks are ancillary...). Throw a sunday day rave and i'll show up, even if it ends earlier than most...i suspect an afterhours will be in effect somewhere anyway, apropos the usual patterns of raver behavior! Seeing as how many raves or afterhours sessions extend into the daylight hours, I would expect a postive response on this one... i will email friends who don't subscribe to neraves and have them email you so you can get some feedback. Perhaps you should poll people at Fever this week (you're going tonight are you not? after all onionz is spinning...hooray!) I'll help ya take a census or whatever.... ~ ~ <@ @> ( O ........G.Hoffman (dc-ish and procrastinating when he needs to be studying) PS yo!anybody reading this (fever) post...if ya haven't heard (fever) onionz spin (fever) in a while (or haven't ever, which is a sad thought) you damn well(fever) should!!!!(fever) who else heard him spin RED???...oooohhhhahhh (fever) he was (fever) fucking outrageously good....brilliant...superlative...you know the score (fever) if ya heard da noise.... peaceloveandsicktwistedacidsoundsforyamindandfatbasswhumpsforyabody! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 08:46:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH almost two months in advance.. but i would like to have a picnic in central park on saturday june 11th (partially on request from ex-ne-raver eric mccormick who will be in NY that weekend). the 11th is also the date of SPUTNIK 4 in NY which looks *really* nice. and is easy to get to from NYC (especially by train, cheap too) so, what i need to know is how many of you would like to come to the picnic and then head to SPUTNIK at night ? if enough people want to come, then the picnic is on! details: where: strawberry fields, central park NYC (or is this location getting old for us?) when: 1 pm, sat. june 11th why: sunshine, fun and smiles as with the other picnics there won't be turntables or anything fancy like someone alwasy suggests, central park polic(e)y hampers us from doing that.. just fun, frisbees and lots of food. i will be able to have some people here at my house after the picnic and before the rave as well see ya soon! xo >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 08:59:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/12/94) In-Reply-To: <199404131911.PAA13910@holmes.umd.edu> from "Matt" at Apr 13, 94 03:00:24 pm > When people in Brooklyn say "and to the blanket posse, stay the FUCK home!" > they mean don't you dare bring a goddamned blanket into their party and sit > your ass down, 'cause everyone has to dance in Brooklyn. I guess the people > in Brooklyn, who are used to seeing everyone dancing all night at their > parties, don't want the "blanket posse" to bring their lame-ass selves to > the party. At SPICE in Brooklyn on February 19 of this year the security > searched all bags at the door and DID NOT allow any blankets inside under > any circumstances. Brooklyn's just got it down every which way. Very well put, Matt!. What is meant by "blanket posse" are not those who need to chill out after a fury of dancing for hours. The "blanket posse" they're talking about are those who stay on their blankets all night long. While that's annoying at raves like Essence 4 (80% of the floor was covered with blankets there), it's absolutely insulting at Brooklyn parties. It's a relatively new phenomenon, groups of people that just go to raves to hang out on their blankets all night long to socialize with their friends, all the while trying to talk louder than that pesky backgroud noise (music). You didn't see any blankets at STORM raves and I guess Brooklyn is just trying to recapture some of that original vibe and energy. dave. -- ----- djm@progress.com ------------------- PH: 617-280-4474 -------------------- They knew he'd never been on || PARENTAL This album contains explicit lyrics their TV, so they passed his || ==== which may cause your children to good music by. -Joni Mitchell || ADVISORY become free thinking intellectuals. * We are BORGanized religion. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. Resistance is futile. * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:32:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: have question, need responses... i've encountered that issue before. when trying to organize a micro at a university, i've run into the headwall of the administration policy of ending any event at 2am. in terms of a micro that really isn't a big problem, i just realize that i won't have a bunch of travelers coming in for the party. unless personal relationships are involved, why drive 4 hours to a party that runs 8pm - 2am. i have thought about starting the party earlier. the university has no mandate on how early an event can start, but the consensus here at starting a party that early was negative. i do think with the proper hook though the idea is good. i would miss going all night, but if it was billed as say an earth day party or a summer solstice party that ends at some *special* time, e.g. 1:58:03am because the planets have reached proper alignment would be fun. certainly, the scene is ripe for a *transition* or *growth*. if this is the mode of that change, let's check it out. i wouldn't bet the farm on its initial success. too, you may have less problem with permits and other gov't issues if the party times were more in line with a conservative viewpoint. haZard ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:35:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: sorry for the length... i say we invite al, tipper, hill and bill to our next party!! i suppose bob dole would start an investigation. can you imagine... RAVE-GATE: did the president swallow his brain candy? did tipper entice the dj's as she was dancing by the stage? bill doing a sax duet to jimmy crash hardcore. al grooving to an incredible acid set. haZard ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:38:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH yay for taylor again. pls bring the play boxes--that cute 303-- again. dj's bring your tapes. taylor i'm there! peace, haZard ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 10:53:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: <9404140535.AA03439@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "a big silver fish" at Apr 14, 94 1:31 am Well, I think that it would definitely be a new experience, and I'm sure that I'd try it out, but I wouldn't look at having too many events like that. I think you would have to feel that out for yourselves. I think it would be a cool change though! NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:54:57 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: <9404140527.AA28274@media.mit.edu>; from "ultraworld@AOL.COM" at Apr 14, 94 12:38 am i would give a rave that started at noon and went til midnight a chance. it would be a totally different experience time wise (afterwards especially when you go outside).... but i'd give it a shot.......i'm not certain how many other people would get really into it though...... i think it'd be fun, esp. on a saturday. -john (handi) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:03:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <9404141254.AA15568@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "a big silver fish" at Apr 14, 94 8:46 am I would definitely attend the picnic!!!!!! Count me in!!! I'll BRING THE LIQUID!!!!! SNAPPLES *smmooooooches* NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:43:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: IMPORTANT: SAVE THIS!!! Brothers and sisters, Now that I got your attention here is the schedule for the next month of guest DJ's for "Fathom" at The Freight Yard plus directions. THe directions in Rave-O-Matic are incorrect. Follow the ones given. Here goes.. Friday, April 15(tommorow): Nigel Richards, Trace(he's in the country for Boom '94. Can't catch him there catch him here). Friday, April 22: Stress Friday, April 29: TIMEWARP 2.3 9p.m.-6a.m. $15 (See Rave-O-Matic for details) Friday, May 13: Repete Friday, May 20: Goodwill(This is my graduation party. Net ravers will have a special price to get in because I want to meet many of you.:) Friday, May 27: DJ Peer of D:Ream returns Friday, June 10: REESE Friday, June 17: Dave Trance Friday, June 24: MICRO All events run 10p.m. to 3a.m. and are $5 before 11p.m./$6 after. Also, the date for TIMEWARP 4 is Friday, July 29. Already confirmed is Joey Beltram and Keoki. THe rest of the list will be confirmed at TIMEWARP 2.3. Another plug: A rave in Allentown put on by two promoters not affiliated with Fathom on May 21 is called "Mystery Machine" with a nice lineup. Support this! Flyers should be out soon. The scene here is expanding more than ever. INFO. = (610)433-0503(No, that's not my voice on the machine) DIRECTIONS(THE RIGHT ONES, SAVE THESE): Take Routes I-78, 33, 309 or Pa. Turnpike to Route 22. Take Route 22 to Allentown Fullerton Ave. exit. Head straight for approx. 3 miles until you are forced to make a right hand turn. Go two blocks. 10 feet after the second light make a left where you see a sign for Antique market. Make a right hand turn in between the two warehouses and it's the last warehouse on the right side. peace, geoffe GSC1@Lehig.Edu "Don't listen to what commercial mainstream sources say when they tell you what's in, hip or cool. The Underground and clublife predicts what's the future in regards to fashions, music and ideology. Where do you think hip-hop, techno, house and industrial thrive? MTV, commercial radio and other media forms are followers, not leaders. What would you rather be, a leader or a follower???" - Unknown ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:25:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: <199404132311.TAA16156@holmes.umd.edu> from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 13, 94 07:04:39 pm > Mark Levinson, Theta Digital, Melior, and several other companies make very > high resolution DACs that do the most accurate job of re-shaping the blocks > of data. THe cheapest of these units is (at this minute) the Mark Levinson > No 30 (i believe) Digital Processor.... > $13,995 Do youself a favor. Buy the Wadia unit. I suspect none of us here on ne-raves is enough of a golden-ears to tell the difference. Then use the money you save by not buying the Levinson to buy a pair of good interconnects, or a car or something. Oh, and as regards record wear: That is one of the major design issues in high-end turntable/arm/cartridge design. Even something as bottom- of-the-high-end as a Sondek/Ittok/Asak can play a record hundreds of times before record wear becomes audible, presuming the stylus is periodically inspected, and replaced before it degrades significantly. In my other life, I spent several years auditioning high-end audio for a dealer in the town I lived in. I was called in to evaluate lines the dealer carried, as well as those he had not yet decided to carry. Many of the systems I listened to cost more than I make in a year, but their sound still guides my audiophile (as opposed to pro- fessional audio) buying habits today. First, I was able to use this incredibly good equipment to train my ears as to what makes up a good recording. Now I use that knowledge to my benefit when I go to spend $500 - $1000 on equipment that is head and shoulders above the mass-market trash most people would spend twice that on. The good stuff is out there, and it's it's not always expensive. You just have to know what you're looking for ans where to look for it. As to the extreme high end (I'm talking $30,000+ amplifiers, $500/ft cables, etc.), listen to enough of it and you find out that beyond a certain point, one component ceases to be "better" or "worse" than the next - you simply recognize each item's particular colorations, and its interactions with the rest of your system (including the listening room and AC line current) and decide for yourself which you prefer. None of this, of course, has anything to do with techno or raving. :) -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 13:11:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Subject: Re: Boston People Read This Let's meet at 9pm in front of Uno's in Kenmore, and if we can't get into Uno's like last time, we'll go to Nemo's as Grant suggested. Sound good? Hope to see everyone there :) *hugs* jill ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:08:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalie J Olkwitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalie J Olkwitz Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <199404141603.MAA22254@holmes.umd.edu> from "NEd_Snappleboy" at Apr 14, 94 11:03:04 am I'll be in New Jersey then visiting Jenn-Bug so i could try my silly little best to make it to the picnic too :) just thought i'dlet you know *giggle* :) *smoochies* Silly little buttercup ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 13:48:12 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Brian O. Bozarth" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Brian O. Bozarth" Subject: ((FLUID)) Planetcore presents FLUID "just a drop of BASS" April 29 Carnegie Mellon University 10pm-1am under the starry sky at the Wean Hall patio ((dj's)) Drown recycled, Pitt inhuman cmu Deadly Buda millenium, Pitt Sleepy "C" psychoactive records, OH + LIVE PA by one8seven Music Now Records, DC Full color flyers designed by planetcore grafix, printed by A & A no cover, no hassle, (it's free) admission is a positive vibe & a massive smile more acts to be announced > brian > lunatik ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:38:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: have question, need responses... Cybertribe, I would really like to go to an all day rave that was outdoors, It'd be like going to the circus with techno music. I think it would work. Peace, Mars p.s. It'd remind me a lot of Lalapalooza, not that that would be good because I dislike the crowd that event draws now, but with all ravers there, I think it would be an incredible time. "Ravapalooza" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:05:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Fiend <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: good techno on cd... the myth about cd's lasting forever is bullshit. they use aluminum on the cds and after about 15-20 years when your cd's start rusting away, you'll know you've been tricked :).. but they do sell cds made with gold (i think, maybe silver) instead of aluminum, but they are very expensive. about turntables, i once heard about a guy who was trying to make a turntable with a laser instead of a needle, did this ever come about? the fiend ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:19:47 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: Re: have question, need responses... >p.s. It'd remind me a lot of Lalapalooza, not that that would be good because >I dislike the crowd that event draws now, but with all ravers there, I think >it would be an incredible time. > "Ravapalooza" Hey you neednt worry i remember reading a Rolling Stone this last summer on the Lala tours and one of the organizers was quoted as saying something like, "hey maybe next year we'll have a rave." *gak* ::::::::::::::::::::: Boom Bap Past Electro Future De Article Poseur kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu STOP THE VIOLINS!!! (squeee...) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:38:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: Your message <199404141906.PAA23706@holmes.umd.edu> of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 14:38:23 EDT this sounds a whole heck of alot like 'nirvana' happening june 18th detroit...... sunshyne 8) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:39:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: good techno on cd also......... (this is really old fellas...) if your Benz-Micro cartridge is lightly skating across your ever-so-sweet vinyl copy of Hardfloor "acperiance 1" with a tracking force of .75 grams... your vinyl will last very long. for longer-lasting vinyl, try using a good mechanical record cleaner... you can pick one up from the audio advisor for around $170 up to $700. a CD, with average DJ (mis)use will last not that long if you don't take care of them... same goes for records... i love the sound of my "Peter Gunn" soundtrack record... it's from the late 1950s and it has yet to develop a pop, click, swoosh, or crackle... that stupid piece of vinyl is almost twice my age. My CD copy of "Lords of Acid" is starting to skip. I take good care of it, mind you, but not all CD players do. please.... let's just call this point moot, eh? 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:42:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: Your message <199404141921.PAA23842@holmes.umd.edu> of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:19:47 LCL yeah.... rumor has it (william morris adgency), that the orb might put together a 'after-palooza' event for all ticket holders.... double eek! sunshyne ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:59:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: net talent wanted! hey now..... attention all net dj's, p.a.'s and acts.... we're looking to bring in as much talent from the net as possible for nirvana, going off june 18th in the detroit area. this event will be held on a private campground, for 24 hours (12 noon to 12 noon). astroboy, jimi doom, snuggles, and p909, are alreaady on the line-up, among with a few others (*names* that is..:). if your interested in cming down and displaying your talent, drop a line to: sunshyne , and i'll get back to you asap. also include a telephone # if possible. vendors of all sorts needed too..... thanks a-mucho, sunshyne universal groove productions ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:21:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: good techno on cd... In-Reply-To: <199404141907.PAA23722@holmes.umd.edu> from "The Fiend" at Apr 14, 94 03:05:04 pm > the myth about cd's lasting forever is bullshit. they use aluminum on > the cds and after about 15-20 years when your cd's start rusting away, > you'll know you've been tricked :).. This is also a myth. It all started when a batch of defective CDs came out of the Nimbus plant in England in 1984 or so. The artwork silkscreened onto the top (shellac) surface was found to be corrosive to the shellac, possibly allowing air to come into contact with the aluminum after several years, starting an oxidation process. The ink (or whatever) was changed to one that was noncorrosive and the problem was eliminated. The only other way the aluminum could come in contact with oxygen would be if somehow there was oxygen in the atmosphere in which the deposition took place. I have a feeling the deposition process is more tightly controlled than that. :) Of course, either the shellac top layer or the Lexan bottom layer could somehow be compromised, but this won't happen in normal storage and use. Now, for those of you who just *have* to keep your CDs in an acetone bath, that's quite another story. :) > about turntables, i once heard about a guy who was trying to make a turntable > with a laser instead of a needle, did this ever come about? You're thinking of the Finial Laser Turntable. A few prototypes were built, but it looked like the production models would cost upwards of $25,000. Later, Finial sold the design to Inc., who stream- lined the production process, and cut the selling price in half. As far as I know, they are available, but production is slow, and they're backordered for a long time. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:20:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: good techno on cd... laser turntable.... yeah, hey've got 'em there are laser turntables on the market for archival and audiophile use. the last one i saw was a mere 33% off of it's original price... $30,000 now it's on sale for $20,000 it's priced well in the range of collectors and the library of congress... and few other people. and about CD rot... check this out... it's a little thing that I heard from the big guys... it's a little story about a kid that bought a compact disc... (fictional) "A kid goes to buy a new CD in a store. Retail price: $16.95 plus tax. He buys it, takes it home, and turns on the stereo. Time: 0.00 sec: "Opens the paper bag and gets the CD," CD value $16.95 plus tax TIme: 3.00 sec: "Tears open the wrapper," CD value $8.48 Time: 7.00 sec: "Opens the jewel case, and the CD is exposed to the environ ment, including oxygen, and sunlight," CD value $8.48 (hasn't been touched) Time: 11.00 sec: "Lifts the CD out of the case with his bare hands and places it in a Pioneer CD changer. CD value: $5.00 (approx) Later that day: "Doesn't like the CD, and lets it sit around for a few days, a person in his house smokes, and he lives in a southern climate," CD value $3.00 (approx) Later that month: "Brings the CD into a shop to be pawned, thought the pawn shop owner is generous, and expects about $9.00 or so for the hardly-used CD. The owner gives hime $3.00 after much haggling, and the kid goes back home." moral of story... Compact Discs drop dramatically in value, even though they look new. Anyone that works in the production/printing rooms at WEA International can tell you horror stories about the scam that is made in their production. they make a 6000% profit, on the average... to make and sell... a 25 cent Compact Disc. oxygen, sunlight, and environmental chemicals all eat away at these little sandwiches of aluminum and polycarbonate. take a look at an old laser disc from the late 1970s... "perfect sound forever" actually more like... "perfect sound? NEVER" -this message has been brought to you by FONY... the MIS-leaders of digital FRaudio. he he he 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:27:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , nenders@EOS.NCSU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: W: TO field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Nicholas Enders Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/12/94) Sounds like the raves uo there are a little "controlled". > When people in Brooklyn say "and to the blanket posse, stay the FUCK home!" > they mean don't you dare bring a goddamned blanket into their party and sit > your ass down, 'cause everyone has to dance in Brooklyn. I guess the people > in Brooklyn, who are used to seeing everyone dancing all night at their > parties, don't want the "blanket posse" to bring their lame-ass selves to > the party. At SPICE in Brooklyn on February 19 of this year the security > searched all bags at the door and DID NOT allow any blankets inside under > any circumstances. Brooklyn's just got it down every which way. > > Peace > Matt > DJ Fresh Blend The True King of Argentina encourages his subjects to increace the Quantity and the Quality of the Biscuits produced there. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 13:31:21 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: good techno on cd 1000 continues: >if your Benz-Micro cartridge is lightly skating across your ever-so-sweet >vinyl copy of Hardfloor "acperiance 1" with a tracking force of .75 grams... >your vinyl will last very long. Yeah, but you don't have that kind of setup at your average rave now do you? No. You have a 1200 that is tracking around 2.5 grams so your record will be abused ANYWAY. Sure, in the scientific esoteric sense vinyl on good equipment is wonderful. But this does not apply to the real world of what goes on at a rave. You CAN'T track at 0.75 grams when everyone in the house is jumping up and down. And do you really want to bring your good equipment to a party where it might get sand blown in it (if it's on a beach) or water dripped on it (if it's in a warehouse) or even seized by the police (if it's a real renegade)? I don't think so. >let's just call this point moot, eh? Eactly. The whole thing is moot. If you take all your scientific arguments and move into the real world of what goes on at your average party you will see that they don't apply so your points are moot. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:55:42 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , nenders@EOS.NCSU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Nicholas Enders Subject: Enders or Dinagers. I know this sound weird but. I am looking for "long lost relatives". My name is Nicholas Enders. My fathers name is Frank Henry Enders. He is 2nd generation German, grew up in NYC. I have an uncle, Karl Enders. He is from NYC like my father but he has not been seen for like 10 years. My mothers name is Luana Mae Dianger Enders. She is form Wehoken (sp?) New Jersey. She has not talked to any family mambers for liek 20 years, due to here disagreements with her father. She is trying to find some for her cousins or related persons. If you know anyone with these 2 last names, please mention my letter to see if we may be related. Please e-mail me back , but my account is terminated in early May. My phone is 919-828-1948. 2109 Pine dr. Raleigh NC. 27608. Thank you for your help and see you at many NC raves. Nicholas Enders The True King of Argentina encourages his subjects to increace the Quantity and the Quality of the Biscuits produced there. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 17:37:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <199404141254.IAA20200@holmes.umd.edu> Well, count me in. Sounds great. -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 18:18:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <199404141254.IAA20200@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 14 Apr 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > almost two months in advance.. but i would like to have a picnic in > central park on saturday june 11th (partially on request from ex-ne-raver > eric mccormick who will be in NY that weekend). the 11th is also the > date of SPUTNIK 4 in NY which looks *really* nice. and is easy to get to > from NYC (especially by train, cheap too) Yay! I go, I go! Me me me! Been way too long since the last picnic. Wait a second though, does this mean we will be a part of the 'Blanket Posse'? Dan 'Pondering his unholy allegiance to Taylor's picnics' "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:23:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Liza J. Weinstein" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Liza J. Weinstein" Subject: Anonymous In-Reply-To: <9404130417.AA53740@moose.uvm.edu> Hi there. Does anyone know how to send or recieve mail anonymously? If so, could you please descibe in detail or lead me to an infromative source? Much thanks. -Tranq ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:25:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: Anonymous In-Reply-To: <9404142323.AA11419@media.mit.edu>; from "Liza J. Weinstein" at Apr 14, 94 7:23 pm To send anonymous mail......read the message below ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:41:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: help In-Reply-To: <9404142035.AA136593@moose.uvm.edu> i accidently erased my "hom" of the week. could someone send me info on timewarp in allantown. sanx <<<>>> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:44:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Liza J. Weinstein" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Liza J. Weinstein" Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <9404141343.AA100670@moose.uvm.edu> If I'm around then (I can never tell my future) Count me in on the picnic. -Tranq ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:51:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Anonymous Ok, sure... but how anonymous is it _really_? I mean, can't there be (conceivably) someone on the penet.fi side that logs suspect messages in before all the headers have been wiped and replaced by the aformentionned "anonymous id"? It's probably better than posting something suspect, say , to alt.drugs with your own name, but is it still really truly 100% secure? I have my doubts...can anyone upgrade my understanding on this one? Thanks, terence ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:08:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <199404141254.IAA20200@holmes.umd.edu> Taylor sends us the invitation... >DATE: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 08:46:43 EDT >FROM: a big silver fish > >almost two months in advance.. but i would like to have a picnic in >central park on saturday june 11th (partially on request from ex-ne-raver >eric mccormick who will be in NY that weekend). the 11th is also the >date of SPUTNIK 4 in NY which looks *really* nice. and is easy to get to >from NYC (especially by train, cheap too) > >so, what i need to know is how many of you would like to come to the >picnic and then head to SPUTNIK at night I'd be into going to the picnic, though I don't know about Sputnik IV. And I suck at playing frisbee, so I'll just eat and listen to the muzak. Virtually yours, Bob "No unholy allegiance, I've never been to one" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:37:11 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Hmmmmmmmmmm....." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hmmmmmmmmmm....." Subject: Re: have question, need responses... In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 01:31:37 EDT how about the outdoors? could that work? i'd definately go. good adventure! :)========~ilithien~======andrea. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 19:41:00 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS" Subject: Re: have question, need responses... An Ultraworld day rave? I'm there. Leave it to Ultraworld to try something new... accept no substitute! Yusef ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:43:38 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: <199404141254.IAA20200@holmes.umd.edu>; from "a big silver fish" at Apr 14, 94 8:46 am yes I would be interested in a NYC picnic im new here (relatively) and I love the idea of picnics and fun in Central Park I will be going to Sputnik IV also ;). CAT *purrrrrrrrrrr* ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:52:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" might want to ad this to the rom.... Mystery Machine Allentown Pa. Saturday May 21st djs: Nigel Richards DieselBoy Miko Damon Wild Geoff-E plus others that I am forgetting right now... Smart bar by: Liquid Technology After-hours at: Freight Yard Allentown Pa. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:49:43 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: net talent wanted! In-Reply-To: <199404142000.QAA24196@holmes.umd.edu> hey.. we (P-909) can promote out here if you want.. dietrich (from P-909) is a part of United Techno.. a big promotion crew out here... you can send us flyers or something.. any word on the contracts >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:58:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: net talent wanted! In-Reply-To: Your message <199404150052.UAA27101@holmes.umd.edu> of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:49:43 EDT hey taylor! always good to hear from you! 8) im working on the pre-flyer right now, and i'll be sending those out like the last week this month. i'm supposed to hit some parties to do some promo but i think im going to have to let the promoters in those cities do that; im sooo busy! *help*! i did't reply when you told me about new p909 stuff coming out, but if you remember, could you sent aside some wax for me? that would be super! when you get it, you can mail it, and any other stuff you might want to dump on me to: sam watkins 807 s. state st. ann arbor, michigan 48104 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:55:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: net talent wanted! In-Reply-To: <199404150052.UAA27101@holmes.umd.edu> sorry for sending that last one to the whole list... anyway.. the picnic response has been great.. now i wish it wasn't 2 months away! maybe there will be one before but.. i dunno if i'm free.. can't wait!! peace >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:03:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , carmela@UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: Re: net talent wanted! In-Reply-To: Your message <199404150052.UAA27101@holmes.umd.edu> of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:49:43 EDT taylor, oops! didn't see the end of the message... yes the contracts are done, and will go out on monday. bear in mind that i'm no perry mason, but it is legally binding. it's very, very simple and straight foward, no silly lawyer speak or anything; just, "i agree to do this, and you agree to do this.." very straight foward. ok chief, im off to go shower and change for work, i have the shittiest job, i work for a security guard place, it's nutty but the pay is *phat*! and it's funding my event so im happy!!!! 8) tlk to ya soon.... sunshyne ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:47:29 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: NYC piknik Hey kids, As always, i'm ready, willing and damn right able to come down for another lovely NYC picnic :) :) Thanks to Taylor for bringing it up. But how about something a little sooner? Today was so magnificent, it must surely be possible for us to have a little day-picnic/evening-dinner/night- rave/morning-breakfast thingie sometime next month or so, no? when will Heather and the B2B gang be throwing their first summer party? perhaps we could coordinate something for then. 2nd point to this post, the recent stuff about the so-called 'blanket posse'. excuse my self-indulgence here, but i've somewhat taken it upon myself to be one of the original NE-raves blanket bearers since last summer. i take a blanket to most of the raves i go to where i know a lot of net folks will be attending, especially the outdoor ones. the point of this is not so we can all sit on the blanket all night, arms folded and shut ourselves off in our own little cybercliche. bull. some of us are tired from driving many hours, from not getting enough sleep during the semester, and yes, from dancing like maniacs. is it such a crime to want to share a clean dry spot with your friends while enjoying what is happening around you? i really hope that that 'stay the fuck home' request takes this into mind. it's cool to dance and all that, but it's a lot of fun to chill also. peace and a good night's sleep :) FiSH the sleepy blanket boy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:40:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: Anonymous its actually worse than that--if big brother really is paying attention. the message is not annonymous through all the connections to the anon.penet.fi site in finland. anyone can intercept the message before or after that point. in one case your anonymity is blown. if one develops any sys admin skills its a simple matter to check any message passing through your node. the real protection here is why would anyone choose a particular message out of a day's node traffic. you have a 1 in some big f***** number chance of being blown. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:19:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: pick nick Yo Blanket Posse!! You KNOW I will be in effect in the park in June. (Let's keep it Strawberry Feilds [Lets keep it forever], it has sentimental value*sigh*) Be careful, this party might SLAM! (oooo that hurt) Peace:) Jason Yo to the FISHES: It seems that the quick thaw up here in CT killed all the FISH in our favorite fishing hole (Bigelow Hollow in Union) It seems that the water flooded the lake before it could equilize the PH factor, read: THE WAS TOO MUCH ACID FOR THE FISH!!!! So all you fish/men/raver/quasi-huminoids, be careful, If you want to stay a raving fish, dont get smiley!! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 20:16:55 CST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "CMSNAMES(T)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X From: "CMSNAMES(T)" From: CMSNAMES(T) SUB CALENDER ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:04:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Earth Day 94!! Sort of rave related... One of my roomies at school is on SAC (Student activities committee). So she asked me what I was doing on Earth day and if we would be interested in setting up the smart bar at the event that they are having. So here is what I was thinking... Those of us that are going north to either the full moon rave or to ten that would be interested in celebrating earth day somewhere...Kutztown seems to be as good as any place to do it. It seems that last year that they had over 2,000 people show up! Even though they will not be having djs or anything like this I thought that it might be a fun and nice place to picnik for the afternoon, listen to interesting speakers and musicians, and just hang out :) If you are at all interested please e-mail me and ill get the directions to Kutztown out to you. Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug *can't wait til full moon rave :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:12:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Schreiber Subject: deep space 9 meeting place Okay homeys, here's the scoop. Some of us netravers will be meeting at the chill-out area at midnight, so if you are also coming and haven't mad it known yet, then be there at 12:00 You can find me by looking for someone wearing a blue-striped shirt with gray sleeves, khaki shorts, and a blue back-pack with a ne-rave sticker laminate hanging from it. hope to see ya groovin' there! Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu nosferatu/mikey ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:17:59 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Koncept Okay, just had a little idea spinning around in my head.. Now, I wish I could remember what the hell it was.. Oh yeah.. Ya know, there are always these huge gatherings going on, sometimes they are counterculture, sometimes they are yuppies, but beneath every human skin lays some bit of raver (no matter how deeply it may be hidden). I am wondering about whether anyone has had any experience hooking up with an established event, something that ends in the early evening (around 10 or 12 or even earlier, whatever..) and then putting on a rave after it. I have heard of things in Long Island (Bauhaus) and in Kentucky (Jsqared) where they had art shows that turned into parties. I have heard about Zippies in England mixing up the events into huge festivals that are both raves and gatherings. Has anyone in the US tried to really combine some other huge gathering with a party? I mean, they say the Megatripolis people are going to do something with the Rainbow gathering, the Dead Shows have had some piecemeal things happen. But what other kind of gatherings could be subverted to our cause? SuperBowl? Nah, we would be beaten about the head.. Hey, we could do something in DC and have the Congresscritters come rave.. Nah, we would be beaten about the head.. Tired Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 22:34:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: theres been a fire in my e-house After a nasty system failure here at Udel which threatened to erase every single thing in my account, it appears im now backup and running. I have not, however, received any new mail since the crash at 11:15pm last night. If you mailed anything to me during that time that you feel I should see, please resend it. Thankyou. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) flu'id (floo'-) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:48:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Psychotic Sales-Flunky Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Psychotic Sales-Flunky Subject: DS9!DS9!DS9!DS9! I still will kill for a ride to DS9 from the DC area. I live near bethesda, md.. I'll pay my share of xpenses..... Anyone who has a kind heart can page me at 202-424-0293 and after entering your #, end it with a suffix of *909# Thankyouthankyouthankyou --------------------------=========================--------------------------- "Have you ever seen...a psychadelic circus?" At this moment is does indeed seem to me that it is with eyes awake that I am looking at this paper; that this head which I move is not asleep, that it is deliberately and of set purpose that I extend my hand and see it; what happens in sleep does not appear so clear nor so distinct as does all this. Rave on. /\/\ [dtripper@access.digex.net] /\/\ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:54:29 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: Koncept i love the idea of art openings combined with raves - my freind james has consid ered this, making a rave into a multi media event with all kinds of art - pure a rt, performance, computer, fashion(personal fave :)) coments? allison ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:56:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Pak Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Pak Subject: NYC picnic I'm relatively new too... but I could try to make it also... I'm over in Jersey.. It'd be great to meet some of you... :> -eddie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 23:56:02 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM!!!!!! Hey guys! Here's the first HOM of the week, sorry for the lack of composure recently....I've been....distracted a bit...but here it is..any last minutes can be mailed to me tonight and I'll add them in the morning and send out a revised list if there are enough of them. Hope ya'll have a great weekend, there are about 4 really nice things happening on the east coast this weekend and while you're at them you can think of me sitting at home writing my paper :) [although hopefully I can fin a ride to Deep Space 9 and go out and play :) ] Keep well...love openly... Melzie aka Can still smell the incense.... **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, April 15 PONG Providence, RI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul aka Papa [OFFER SPACE, DINNER, BRUNCH veggie stuff MAIL FOR DETAILS!!!] papa@world.std.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, April 15 DEEP SPACE 9 Balimore, MD ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie aka Snuggly Cheesecake [NEEDS RIDE-BALTO] melzie@wam.umd.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 16 WIGGLE Charlottesville, VA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Campanell [NEEDS RIDE-DC] robcamp@seas.gwu.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 23 FULL MOON RAVE NYC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Speed racer aka Joe jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu Fresh Blend aka Matt st000912@brownvm.brown.edu Cat yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu Donato donato@world.std.com Fish aka Rishad squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu DieselBoy damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Jetta vwang@wellesley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, May 14 PLANET EARTH NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, May 20 THE AWAKENING Ashbury Park, NJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, May 21 GLOW BALTIMORE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut [NEEDS RIDE-BALTO] melzie@wam.umd.edu Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RAVE THE BAY Baltimore Harbor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Allen Menegay escapist@owlnet.rice.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:32:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Earlier Picnic Idea Fish was wondering if we could also have a picnic earlier... the 30th of April is Taylor's birthday...a saturday... I was wondering if there would be a lot of people interested in a picnic that weekend to celebrate the 23rd birthday of my darling? send me private mail instead as the list does not need a lot of one line messages :) a1tchan@lucy.wellesley.edu sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:57:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: BOOM '94 Cybernauts Read This ATTENTION ALL CYBERNAUTS IF YOU HAVE SIGNED UP TO PILOT THE INTERNET HOOK UP @ BOOM '94, YOU _MUST_ CONFIRM BY MAIL BY SATURDAY @ 12:00PM. IF YOU HAVN'T RECIVED A CONFIRMATION MAIL BY THEN, YOU HAVN'T BEEN ADDED TO THE CREW MAIL YOUR RL NAME FOR THE GUEST LIST. I JUST FINISHED THE LAMINATES AND THEY CAME OUT STUPID. :) I WILL TRY TO OPEN AN IRC CHANNEL #rave @ 11:59PM FRIDAY NIGHT 4/15/94 FOR A 'PRODUCTION MEETING'. PLUR Virtually woof P.S. WHY AM I SHOUTING? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:57:10 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: N A S A - ONLINE 4 (Boom, Outlaw Tax Party, Living Room) BOOM '94 MANHATTAN LOCATION APRIL 16TH 1994 INFO LINE 212-330-8233 Tickets are on sale @ Liquid Sky, 8 Ball Records and, by now, Groove Records (call first) DJ Line up as of 4/15/94 SPUN from Wicked Crew (SF) - MOBY - JIMMY CRASH DB - ON-E - RYDE & JOESKI - SUN from Ultraworld MR. KLEEN - ENTITY (Ultraworld) + SCOTTO LIVE! - VAPOUR SPACE It's Earth Day and The 51st aniversary of Albert Hoffman's Bike ride. Trippy Video (Many Layers of PHUN) By The NEURONAUTIC INSTITUTE fun@well.sf.ca.us Lighting programming by SCOTTO and YOURS TRULY woof@panix.com LIVE Internet HOOK UP (see separate posting) Mail to woof@panix.com for info on how to sign up to jack in @ BOOM '94 ************************************************* Every Friday THE LIVING ROOM 238 East 3rd Street NYC 212-343-0532 Comfort for you and your friends THIS FRIDAY 4/15/94 Reduced admission with a BOOM ticket ************************************************* OUTLAW TAX PARTY This friday 4/15/94 Start 10pm SHARP 33rd Street & 8th Avenue Outside THE Post Office (10001) ************************************************* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 00:57:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: BOOM '94 - Internet Hook Up BOOM '95 Live Internet Hook UP We will be set up @ BOOM '94 IRC channel #rave VRAVE @ techno.stanfor.edu EMAIL polling - send mail to woof@panix.com with Rave in the subject and it will get filtered and displayed. UUencoded gifs will be displayed. If you can't make it in RL then jack in to VR. Our Crew of Cybernauts will be jacked in and piloting the ship. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 01:43:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:39:58 -0400 Benz-Micro huh......... What about a Sumiko Blue Point? TOM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:09:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: good techno on cd... In-Reply-To: <199404142022.QAA24482@holmes.umd.edu> from "Ed Horch" at Apr 14, 94 04:21:16 pm Dans la Matrice, Ed Horch a dit: > > the myth about cd's lasting forever is bullshit. they use aluminum on > > the cds and after about 15-20 years when your cd's start rusting away, > > you'll know you've been tricked :).. > > This is also a myth. Currently 3M guarantees their discs for 25 years for data storage, and in the industry, the lifespan of a polycarbonate/aluminium CD is evaluated at around 100 years. > Of course, either the shellac top layer or the Lexan bottom layer > could somehow be compromised, but this won't happen in normal storage > and use. Now, for those of you who just *have* to keep your CDs in an > acetone bath, that's quite another story. :) :) What seems to put a 100 year lifespan limit on current polycarbonate/ aluminium cds is the effects of radiations on the porosity of polycarbonate. That is why national archives that are on CDROM use tempered glass/gold. In any case, by the time my CDs will be oxydised, i'll probably be dead, or i'll just transfer my old CDs to new ones (writables) which will probably be very cheap in 50 years from now... :P Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 02:40:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , winsomered Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: JUNE 11 YES!!!! FINALLY! Yes, Holy Cow, I'm off that weekend! Which means Robert and I can come to the Picnic and to Sputnik....wow......anyone for...hoagies? (Hee Hee) ((Oh, yeah, I finally got back some pictures I took at the Essence 3 picnic, most were too dark, but there's a fair one of Dan and Rishad, and a Really good one of Tayor showing off his lovely boxers! (G rated, don't worry :) ------anyhows, I'll bring them. I know, I know...I've been away from the posting game here too long, well hey, seems like y'all have planty of things too say...the real excuse is I'm lucky if I can get to read most of my mail) As for Non-Pleasure Dome....gad, what a rotten thing to happen....I guess I would have been screwed too if I was off......Taking back our scene, yea...it's important to support people you know when they try to get something together, even sometimes if it means you'll get little or no profit in the end result.....the scene you support profits, and thus you. I gotta tell all of you about the "Kase of the Ketamine Kitty" I recently got my cat, Mitzy VanNote, fixed. Now Mitzy the Fritz is a really intellegent and sweet little girl cat......so we takes her to da Vet, Old Doc Wilson, and he fixes her up right good, and tells us we can pick her up 4;30 pm..that same day!!!! Really, he doesn't keep them overnight, first time I heard 'bout dat! Well, my firends, let me tell ya why they keep them overnight, aside from the fact that the anethesia wears off , not the fact that they soil themselves, no, no gentle reader....it's beacuse they don't want you to see the cat Hallucinate! Yes, I saw it, Rob saw it...that cat was Trippin! Eyes darting here and there, odd soft sounds, strange head positions.....she didn't recognize us, or she really didn't care to....and our neutered male cat hissed and growled at her in her cage/carrier.............makes you wonder why they don't use ketamine more often in the operating room! Oh yeah, by the way, only females get the luxury of this kitty trip...seems the males (who according to Rob who worked as a Vet assist. for a stint) Just get a brief acting anesthetic (k is long to intermed acting) a slit is made above the sac, the testies are squeezed out and snipped at the vasculature...I small thread of suture, and Voila! Usually, in a few minutes, the now neutered cat will wake up and begin to play! Can U beleive this,, Men, really! Oh well...I guess I had a lot to say...see what happens when you don't write often! Oh Wow! I almost forgot ...we last went to Kick It and Delta 2 in Philly, both were ok.....Spitual Movement 3 was Won-der-ful! Ritchie Hawtin is. Oh, and the Vagabond thing is Philly is revived again. Vagaabond was a traveling Monday night club, now been split into 2 groups and defunct for a while) that was run by Wink, B;lake, Dozia, King Britt and Odessey--well...they had a reunion Monday night, it Kicked! lots of acid jazz, very cool...downstairs where the music wafted into the vault (the location was an old bank turned nightclub) a reall-cool-beanie-wearin-cigarillo-smokin-dude-was keepin the rhythm he felt echong thru the walls, rolling around in his head and fluttering out via his hand onto his drums and bongos......wow, like i was sayin to Mugsy over there.....Oh! HI I'm back...... so.....We'll see ya when we see ya! Peace Linda Leigh ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 06:25:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Revised HOM as promised :) Melzie always keeps her promises :) **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, April 15 PONG Providence, RI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul aka Papa [OFFER SPACE, DINNER, BRUNCH veggie stuff MAIL FOR DETAILS!!!] papa@world.std.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, April 15 DEEP SPACE 9 Balimore, MD ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie aka Snuggly Cheesecake [NEEDS RIDE-BALTO] melzie@wam.umd.edu Dtripper [NEEDS RIDE-DC] dtripper@access.digex.net Mikey aka noferatu MS5414@sip.bitnet John Sweeny jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 16 WIGGLE Charlottesville, VA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Campanell [NEEDS RIDE-DC] robcamp@seas.gwu.edu Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jason Leder lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 23 FULL MOON RAVE NYC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Speed racer aka Joe jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu Fresh Blend aka Matt st000912@brownvm.brown.edu Cat yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu Donato donato@world.std.com Fish aka Rishad squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu DieselBoy damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Jetta vwang@wellesley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, May 14 PLANET EARTH NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, May 20 THE AWAKENING Ashbury Park, NJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, May 21 GLOW BALTIMORE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut [NEEDS RIDE-BALTO] melzie@wam.umd.edu Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RAVE THE BAY Baltimore Harbor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Allen Menegay escapist@owlnet.rice.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:32:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: Anonymous In-Reply-To: <199404142323.TAA26456@holmes.umd.edu> Hello! There are several "double blind" e-mail servers, but the one I'm familiar with is penet.fi. If I remember right, you mail to, for example, alt.rave@anon.penet.fi to make an anon post to the USENET group alt.rave. Hope this helps! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:37:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: Anonymous In-Reply-To: <199404142357.TAA26655@holmes.umd.edu> >Ok, sure... but how anonymous is it _really_? I mean, can't there be >(conceivably) someone on the penet.fi side that logs suspect messages in >before all the headers have been wiped and replaced by the aformentionned >"anonymous id"? It's probably better than posting something suspect, say >, to alt.drugs with your own name, but is it still really truly >100% secure? I have my doubts...can anyone upgrade my understanding on >this one? > >Thanks, > >terence > You are completely right. The whole anon idea is based on trusting the anon server. penet.fi (which is in finland, which creates some security right there (english being a foreign language, and finland being beyond the reaches of the FBI :) ) is, however, fairly trusted by the people who post to monitored newsgroups such as alt.drugs, alt.sex.stories and alt.sex.pictures (or so i'm told) .... It's a brave net world ... It's up to you to keep yourself save ... Don't trust anyone you can't trust ... :) Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:45:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: deep space 9 meeting place In-Reply-To: <199404150215.WAA28035@holmes.umd.edu> Commander, message coming in from Star Fleet Command ... On screen ... Subject : DS9 Hey ! I made a big sign (though the colors on the plotter were messed up, I'm still gonna use it!) that says DCRAVES accross the top and GATHERING POINT in the middle. I'm gonna bring it and hang it up at DS9 in the CHILL-OUT room, so maybe we can all gather near it at midnight. (I wonder if they're gonna set up a portable worm hole ...) Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:48:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: Koncept In-Reply-To: <199404150354.XAA28619@holmes.umd.edu> Wasn't the Garden of Earthly Delights @ James Madison a MultiMedia Art Show/Rave/Party? Wasn't is considered a success? Aren't they gonna do it again so I can go this time? :) I really like this idea ... Maybe it could be worked in with the Day Tripper Rave concept ... Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:57:35 +0200 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , hardgroover/ANdroiDS Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: hardgroover/ANdroiDS Subject: Planet-E rave mag Is there some people interested by writing article(s) about the scene (all kind of "house" music) wuch as record/event reviews, clubs, drugs, music and all stuff which are part of the scene... You can find issue#1 on techno.stanford.edu:pub/rave/media/zines/planet.e If ya want to write for 2nd issue please send me your article(s) before >>>>> 30.4.94 <<<<< Hope to hear from ya! psyched / Megawatts ## Planet-E >>>>> molari@eig.unige.ch "Excitement is the 1st quality of a raver" and US scene is the most unknown... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 10:46:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: good techno on cd... just a note.... ALERT ALERT ALERT!!! do not buy MiniDiscs, or DCCs. They are both going to be dumpen within the next few fiscal years at FONY and Phillips. recordable CD transports are due to dip below $1000 by the end of this year the recordable discs will be totally Red Book and Orange Book compatible. all MiniFraud and DeceivingCC buyers... you've been had. (plays Taps for two more digital formats and chisels a tombstone for MD and DCC) the recordsble CDs made by TDK and KODAK are of fairly high quality. for premium reproduction, i recommend the Marantz machines in the $2500 range (on sale). 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:31:59 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: Koncept In-Reply-To: <9404150354.AA04252@media.mit.edu>; from "Allison Thurman" at Apr 14, 94 11:54 pm Well, chris mellow are going to something like this on saturday at yale... (at least it's a lot like a multimedia event with computer and performance art works).... i'll let you know how it all turns out... we'll be doing music and visuals :) (as squishy designs....yum!) also, the bliss factories that used to go in in boston used to be a little like this, but more gothic and industrial in style....and a little scary too -john (handi) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help@anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin@anon.penet.fi. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:34:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Sorry about the double posts My slip server is acting up and it has caused a ripple effect with my mailer. So I've think i've double mailed a few things. This project has me going a little crazy. Thanks for support AND JOIN US on Saturday on IRC channell #rave and on VRAVE. PLUR woof ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 08:49:22 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: good techno on cd... 1000 gives some good advice on minidisc . . . . I just wanted to say that I've heard the same rumors too, and know people that won't buy the minidisc for exactly the reasons 1000 gave. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 12:56:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: Re: Koncept "Michael Francois (SHA)" typed these words of wisdom..... > Wasn't the Garden of Earthly Delights @ James Madison a MultiMedia Art > Show/Rave/Party? yup...at least that's what our original intentions were.. > Wasn't is considered a success? i don't know...we didn't get a lot of feedback... > Aren't they gonna do it again so I can go this time? :) if we do...it won't be the same space...we kinda pissed of the university...;) and it seemed most ppl didn't want to travel out this far.... > I really like this idea ... well...if you wanna work on something like this send me some email, cuz i'd like to do another event we're just limited in personnel, spaces, and such.. aaron.... ps...could someone send me directions to wiggle in c'ville...thanx! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ........puttin' on the tevas and goin' ravin' ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:19:36 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: AT&T Gets "Cool and Edgy" Cybertribe, As some of you might know, I work at AT&T Bell Labs. On the front page of the AT&T News, the headlines read, "Reaching Generation X: AT&T Gets "Cool and Edgy." Well I read it over and thought that some of you might get a kick out of it, so I have retyped for you. Enjoy! Mars "Reaching Generation X: AT&T Gets "Cool and Edgy" by Jean Pascual They are easy to find but hard to reach. Born between 1964 and 1975, they are known as Generation X, the MTV generation, Techno Babies. There are an estimated 46 million of them in the United States. AT&T wants their business. "Why?" is no mystery. They spend more on long distance than their parents do. They change jobs and move more often than the over-30 age group, leaving, but staying in touch with, family, friends and associates. Born into a techno- logical age, they are not only comfortable using technology, but they expect and demand it. AT&T's "any time, anyplace" strategy fits them like a second skin. But their brand loyalty doesn't ensure "once AT&T, always AT&T." Mary Ellen Navas, division manager in Consumer Communications Services (CCS), says, "They're not devoid of brand loyalty, but they demand that we earn their business every day." To answer the question of how AT&T can earn minutes on the network from this lucrative and technologically sophisticated market group, Nivas formed "Gen-X" task force made up of 12 CCS employees who were diverse in every way other than age. She says, "They worked together like grains of sand in an oyster, and because they were willing to assert their individuality and diversity, they produced a pearl of a marketing recommendation." GOODBYE, CLIFF--YO, SPIKE The task force's marketing recommendation calls for AT&T to update its image to be more "cool and edgy." It also says AT&T should advertise in 'zines (magazines) like _Vibe_ and _Shape_. It says the company that has always felt comfortable with a spokesperson like Cliff Robertson now has to become comfortable with Spike Lee and Winona Ryder. [I HEART WINONA!!!] In short, traditional ways of communicating won't work anymore. Navas says, "Our challenge is to do non-AT&T-type things quickly if we want to win in this market. There are so many ways to speak to this culture, and we have to become good at improvising as we recognize opportunities." TECHNOLOGY: AN "X"ACT FIT Steve Clemente, AT&T Consumer Products director of marketing, echoes the importance of reaching this group: "Meeting the needs of this market is a direction we have to, and want to, move in. Certainly, members of Generation X require continual innovation on our part. They grew up with technology and expect ongoing improvement to the impact it has on their lives. Examples can be found in our wireless technology which fits well into mobile lifestyles of this group." [I want a cellular phone so bad.] AT&T's _You Will_ advertising program is largely aimed at the 18-to-34-year- old market. "Innovation is one of the key dimensions of AT&T's brand position," says Jim Speros, AT&T brand management and corporate advertising director. "The ad campaign showcases technologies and applications that clearly differentiate our company from the likes of MCI and Sprint and establishes AT&T as a hip, contemporary and innovative company with cutting-edge technology." In the "You Will" television ads, viewers see new, exciting things: tucking a baby into bed from hundreds of miles away via a video payphone, sending a fax from the beach via a personal communicator, paying a toll without stopping the car. The campaign has achieved outstanding results thus far and was identified as one of the top 25 advertising campaigns in 1993 by Video Storyboards, a market survey firm that conducts an annual survey of more than 25,000 consumers. The survey showed that more than 90 percent of the target audience, the highest percentage ever achieved for a corporate ad campaign, was aware of the "You Will" ads. The survey also reported a significant attitude shift in this audience toward AT&T as a technological leader and innovator. WHAT COMES AFTER "X"? [This doesn't sound too much like a drug reference.] There's a downside risk associated with not earning the Gen-X business. The risk goes beyond the surface economics of gaining or retaining 46 million customers. The risk lies in not heeding the cultural shift that Gen X heralds- the shift that compels AT&T to be smart in improvising at ever-faster rates. If AT&T falters in its total embrace of this newer, faster-moving market, the company's ability to gain the trust and business of the next generation will be even tougher. The implications of effectively marketing to Generation X extend far beyond the '90s. When Generation Y, the children of X, are old enough to make buying decisions that put minutes on the AT&T network, they will remember the information highway of the '90s as little more than a country road. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:22:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: AT&T Gets "Cool and Edgy" In-Reply-To: <199404151721.NAA03908@holmes.umd.edu> t Save Commit Go-To Next Back Quit | ~~ Viewing Message 3 of 7 in inbox - 29 lines ~~ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 13:42:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: good techno on cd... In-Reply-To: <199404151446.KAA02287@holmes.umd.edu> If this show up twice, or you get a junk e-mail form me, sorry ... The ne hear burped for a minute ... some kind of broadcast storm ... anyway... The last time I talked with a Sony rep they told me they were moving MiniDisc into the data storage business ... around $300 a unit by next year ...$10 for a blank 2.5" MiniDisc that holds 160MB uncompressed ... over 400 MB compressed ... I saw a demo (it was a modified music MD player/recorder) of a unit ... good access time (< 13ms) ... they want to replace your 3.5" floppy with these units ... ( 1.5MB or 400MB ... hmmm :) BUT ... they could can this ... flopticals (magneto/optical 3.5" read-write storing 20MB) never caught on ... We'll have to wait and see ... Anyone know anyone at Sony who can confirm or deny ...? BTW, SOney invented the 3.5" floppy disk, so they've had some small success with data storage before ... :) Peace, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:04:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: rave mass i am really shocked that any church could/would want to do this...and i bet this guy fox has never been to a "real" rave (i love when they talk about that loud rock n roll at raves...and i bet they will have no problem getting permitts for sites..ahhhrrg!)...susie (: from the San Francisco Chronicle April 15, 94 'RAVE MASS' PLANNED FOR GRACE CATHEDRAL by Don Lattin Matthew Fox, the avant-guarde priest defrocked by the Vatican for his free-spirited theology, will become an Episcopal priest and begin a high-tech, high-decibel "Rave Mass" this year in the basement of Grace Cathedral. Fox got the idea for the rock and roll liturgy after visting a band of unorthodox young Anglicans in England--where the "Rave in the Nave" features loud music, women dancing in bikinis and video monitors flashing messages such as "Eat God." "I'm grateful it's in the basement," said the Rev. Alan Jones, dean of Grace Cathedral, the seat of the Episcopal Diocese of California. Rave Masses are all part of a high-risk, high-energy attempt by Fox, 53, and the local Episcopal church to get the attentin of the young Americans bored by traditional Christian worship. During Fox's visit to England the Mass was held in the basement of a sports complex and included 42 television sets flashing images of galaxies, dancing atoms, DNA, lunar eclipses and male-female archetypes. Fox--whose blend of Christianity, eco_mysticism and liberal politics led to a 10-year-old batle with Vatican authorities--now describe himself as "a post-denominational priest." "We don't have a lot of time to fiddle around with whether we're in this demomination or that one," Fox said. "I challenge you to find any 20-year-old cho can tell the difference between a Presbyterian, aLutheran, a Methodist, an Episcopalian and a Roman Cathlic. An who cares?" Under Vatican pressure, the Dominican order dismissed Fox last year after he refused his supervisor's order to leave his Institue for Culture and Creation Spirituality, based in Oakland, and return to Chicago. Fox, an internationally known author and lecturer, was accepted into the Episcopal Church as a lay person earlier this year in a quite ceremony at Grace Cathedral. He is now being tutored in Anglican studies and is scheduled to be ordained as an Episcopal priest in December. He hopes to celebrate the first Rave Mass in October. Episcopal Bishop William swing said he has talked to Fox about his theological ideas andhas determined that "his undrstanding of Jesus Christ is both orthodox and bibical." "What makes him so controversial is that he attempts to translate the central revelation of Christianity in a vocabulary that is not easyly recognized in traditional circles," Swing said. "He attempts to be a conduit for allowing a new generation to come to terms with creation and the primary human need to worship God." In a statement he plans to read at a press conference this moring at Grace Cathedral, Fox laments that the Roman Catholic Church "is losing the spirits and adventurous energies of the young." "The Roman Cathlic Church is this archdiocese alone is busy selling a dozen of its churches rather than asking the obvious quetion: Why do people no longer want to attend church?" his statement reads. Officials at Holy Names College in Oakland, the Catholic school that has housed Fox's Institute for Culture and Creation Spirituality for the past decade, said that they are "saddened" by Fox's decision to join the Episcopal Church but that Fox will continiue to be associated with the ecumenical institute. Fox, whose mother was an Episcopalian, said in the interview that "there is more elbow room" in the Episcopal Church today. "Look what they've done about ordaining women, about maintaining a balance of lay and clerical decision-making," he said. "On issues of birth control or married priests, they have not hid their heads in the sand." Fox acknowledged that designer psychadelic drugs such as "Ecstasy" are popular in the Rave culture in both the United States and England. "That's exactly what they (the sponsers of the Rave Masses in England) are trying to combat," he said. "The Rave culture did not begin with drugs. You can go drugs, or you can go religion, go transcendence, go for the spiritual power of community and ritual." Jones, a native Briton who has met the Anglican priest who started Rave Masses in England, said he has mised feeling about Fox's move from the Catholic Church. "He's a brilliant communicator and reaches a generation in a ver exciting way," he said. "But I am sad for the Roman church. It's a failure for the whole church when someone can't be at home in his won tradition." Jones also has some misgivings about Rave Masses. "It sounded horrendous until i thought about my 17-year-old-son," he said. "We need to rish more to communicat the good news to young people. If it doesn't work, we'll try something else." Fox is scheduled to preach at Grace Cathedral at 11 a.m. April 24. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 14:14:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Psychotic Sales-Flunky Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Psychotic Sales-Flunky Subject: Re: Koncept In-Reply-To: <199404151252.IAA00909@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Michael Francois (SHA) wrote: > Wasn't the Garden of Earthly Delights @ James Madison a MultiMedia Art > Show/Rave/Party? > > Wasn't is considered a success? > > Aren't they gonna do it again so I can go this time? :) > > I really like this idea ... > > Maybe it could be worked in with the Day Tripper Rave concept ... > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ HEY! Stop talking about me! :D I think it'd be an interesting change for once actually.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:24:41 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: Sorry about the double posts In-Reply-To: <199404151534.LAA02780@holmes.umd.edu> could anyone help me..my site has blocked irc and i want to get on...can anyone tell me some public irc sites...or how to compile my own *server?client?* help...i need a way to get around this...help help help...liberate irc...susie (: On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: > My slip server is acting up and it has caused a ripple effect with > my mailer. > > So I've think i've double mailed a few things. > > This project has me going a little crazy. > > Thanks for support AND > > JOIN US on Saturday on IRC channell #rave and on VRAVE. > > PLUR > > woof > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 11:35:30 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: Koncept In-Reply-To: <199404150227.WAA28134@holmes.umd.edu> yeah they do it all the time with grateful dead concerts...in ca they are called atomic roosters/atomic dogs (depends on what the sign is for the year) they are effective if the parking lot staff don't care..and it is kinda fun cuz you have a crowd built in...susie(: ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 15:22:53 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: INFO:Further Drop Bass Network, Reactor Magazine & Minneapolis More invite you to... F U R T H E R - We shall all be set free Three Days - Friday April 29th thru Sunday May 1st Free Camping Weather Protected Rain or Shine! Equidistant from Chicago, Milwaukee, & Mineapolis DJs: Hoschi - Labworks Records, Germany Roland Caspar - Labworks Records, Germany Aphex Twin - Warp/Sire Recording Artist, UK Frankie Bones - Brooklyn Groove Records & Direct Drive Records, NYC Adam X - Brooklyn Groove Records & Dirct Drive Records, NYC The San Fransisco Hardkiss Experience St. Louis Vibe Tribe: Terry Mullan Fafo Merlin Micro - NYC Barry Weaver - L.A. ESP - Minneapolis AJR & JG 88 - London Spenser Kinsey - Chicag Hyperactive - Chicago Mystic Bill - Chicago Diesel Boy - Pittsburgh Nigel Richards - Philadelphia ALSO FEATURING: Dave Hollands - Wade Hampton & Earl - Davey Dave - Mr. Bill - Jethrox - Jedidiah - E Tones - Apollo - Alex - Drone - Earth - Mind Drive - Efex - 33 Jellybean - Caz - Phantom 45 - Tron - R.P. Smack - Fierce - Acid Boy - Freddy Fresh - Razz - Yoda - Tom Pazen - Astro Boy - Tenbear - Mad Groove - And others TBA on a do-it-yourself soundsystem where DJs can sign up to spin. LIVE PERFORMANCES: SPECTRAL EMOTIONS - Labworks, Germany KOZMIK KOMMANDO - Rephlex Records, UK Sabalon Glitz - Feed D Settlement - Octarine - Monkeyhead - Delta Nine Mark Verbos - Area 39 - Ignore the Ground - Purple Hand - TF Richter and others TBA as well as open mic poetry Transportation Network and Vital Information Lexington - 606.281.4193 St. Louis - 314.995.9299 Chicago - 708.216.9798 Madison - 608.283.3202 No. Illinois 815.469.8917#104 Iowa - 309.757.5323 Louisville - 502.569.1969 Indianapolis - 317.895.4546 Detroit - 313.730.2202 Pittsburgh - 412.734.8432 Dayton - 513.496.1071 Boston - 617.541.9258 Cleveland - 219.238.1451 Philadelphia - 215.233.9777 Connecticut - 203.627.5686 Atlanta - 404.250.8230 New Jersey - 908.724.9711 Long Island - 516.547.7118 Cincinatti - 513.648.9647 New York - 212.696.8938 Nashville - 615.780.3730 Internet - MW-Raves@csd4.csd.uwm.edu Event begins noon Friday Location will be announced April 24th All night drum circles around the bonfire 4 sound systems On site Camping 5 Watt Argon Laser Film and Video Projections Much Love Food and Smart Drink Vendors B.Y.O.Food & Beverages Marketplace Authentic 60's lighting State of the art Intelligent lighting Grand Opening ceremony Friday with give aways and special spiritual commeration Limited Edition "Further" 7-inch DBN release by DJ ESP to Mark this special gathering MAIN INFO: 414.256.1733 612.649.4768 312.604.1833 $15 ADVANCED TICKETS / $20 AT GATE ADVANCED TICKETS AVAILABLE UNTIL APRIL 23 UNTITLED in Chicago ATOMIC in Milwaukee NORTHERN LIGHTS DOWNTOWN in Minneapolis ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:32:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bruce Krysiak Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bruce Krysiak Subject: SPIN / AT&T Instinct Sampler Giveaway... Hey guys- I sent off my check to these folx for a k00l CD w/ Taylor and the boyz on it in November or something... All I've received is a cancelled check lining someone's pocket out there... If anyone still might happen to have the address for these people, I'd appreciate it if you could send it out to me so's I can send them a very nice letter telling them that I've been skrewed and to send me out my disc... (remember to edit the headers so the whole list doesn't get it) Otherwise, I guess I'll just call up Spin and ask them... Although I don't want to _pay_ AT&T to call up and find out where to send my complaints... And for you Boston folks, I'll probably see you at the Uno's dinner tonight - too much dancing is never enough! (I've been partying every night since last Friday... I think I'm going to break myself! 8) Thanks, l8r... - bruce --//--- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 17:07:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC VOL. 2 # 1, JUNE 11TH In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 08:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Yeah count me in I want to be there..... I really haven't met any fellow netters tho I may have "chatted" or spoken on the tel but not more than that...... Tom ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:45:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: American Culinary "Delight" Sampled Today Hey Folks, Stop the presses - after a year of living in the USA ( off and on :) I have finally succombed and, for the first time in my life, eaten a : TWINKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yes, that opitomy of American Junk Food Consumerism with a use by date of .... well ... you should live that long! After years of reading adverts for them in comics, seeing them in American movies and hearing jokes about them from the Americans I live & work with, I finally decided to "give it a whirl" when a tray of these oddities was placed beneath my nose. For those of you who don't know what a Twinkie is ( and I'm writing for the many foreign folk who haven't heard of one let alone seen one :), imagine a small, cylindrical object with a flattened bottom made from some foamy, psuedo-substance with a form of creamy stuff in the middle. The one I had was about the size of your standard Ozzie sausage roll ( a few inches long by a couple of inches in diameter... ). It's easily devoured in a couple of bites and, in fact, this is a good thing as the sooner it is done with the better. Sort of like eating a semi-disolved foam mattress with something moist and frightening in the middle... And the results??? What can I tell you about this long delayed moment???? Will I race out to buy more? Am I now an addict after a single taste? Can I resist the pull of consumerism screaming to me to buy more as I walk down the aisles of a Christies, Store 24 or Star Market???? Will I start having nightmares about giant twinkies the size of manhatten being ridden by glazed jelly donut monsters????? I think I'll stick to vegemite.... :) Grant ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 19:24:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KEVIN LAMB AKA DJ SPIF Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KEVIN LAMB AKA DJ SPIF Subject: TERRA-X JUne 18 For the last couple of cold winter months Funky Alien Gizmos have been putting together a lineup that should prove to be the HOTTEST night of the year in Cleveland, Ohio..... Terra-X "THe Arrival" Join us this one fantastic night as Funky ALien Gizmos makes their first contact in Cleveland for a one night debacle of pure grooveriding madness Controlling the Masses: Dave Trance Micro Boomer Caffeine-L.I. Caffeine-L.I. Omega-Toledo Sun Wink Dreamer Ultraworld Sorted-Philly Funky Alien-Cleveland Rob Black Tony Garcia Cleveland Chicago Lighting by : Pandemonium Smart Drinks by : Nrgetics Bus and ticket info soon to follow (In like 2 weeks) -- Kevin Lamb aka Dj Shaft ATSXL617@KSUVXA.KENT.EDU Phat ass house and jazz beats to knock ya off ya seats now available for your listening pleasures. Contact at above address. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:22:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: rave mass In-Reply-To: <199404151812.OAA04478@holmes.umd.edu> WHy not the idea? Granted, it is a bit radical, but if it brings people back to church, then I'd say do it. I think a lot of people are just plain bored with Old Time Religion, and perhaps this rave mass idea might bring some spirituality into peoples' lives. And I think that the idea of PLUR fits in nicely with how religions _should_ be. Virtually yours, Bob "former altar boy" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 20:49:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: If you're THAT bored and not raving.... well, ya, v-rave is down, if you wanna chill, but can't gt to an event and can't get on....try Holo-HAUS at kern.cs.colostate.edu 6919 [it has full colour and animation!!! [BOUNCE] Keep well! Melzie aka "Shoulda kept my eyes shut...." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 21:11:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: good techno on cd... In-Reply-To: <199404151549.LAA02952@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 15 Apr 1994, Laura La Gassa wrote: > 1000 gives some good advice on minidisc . . . . > I just wanted to say that I've heard the same rumors too, > and know people that won't buy the minidisc for > exactly the reasons 1000 gave. Just as an addendum to this eulogy.. When I was working at the warehouse for Kemp Mill Records (a local record chain) I was talking to the manager about some DCC and MiniDisc sample machines we had laying around the warehouse. He said they (the record chain) had been something of a test market for these toys and had a severely bad response from them. Not negative exactly, but just an utterly disinterested lack of response. He said in his talks at trade shows on the medium of MiniDisc that it had been layed to rest about a year ago. I have also noted some negative press about the future of both systems. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 20:19:00 CDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "JOSEPH P. BAGDONAS" Subject: DJ Trace and BOOM The latest eflyer for BOOM omits DJ Trace yet again. Will he not be spinning there? The voicemail doesn't answer this question. If anyone knows, then post it. Thanks, Yusef ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Apr 1994 23:03:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sheri Hendrickson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sheri Hendrickson Subject: Re: INFO:Further _FURTHER- The location of FURTHER is the closest to Minneapolis. Folks from the East Coast your best bet if your aere flying, is to fly out Minneapolis and St. Paul airport. MPLS/ST PAUL 2-3 hrs. MILWAUKEE 3-4 hrs. CHICAGO 4-5 hrs * * DRIVING THROUGH WISCONSIN! * * Watch out for the Wisconsin State Troopers. They're nasty and come out of every crevice of the hwy. You have to pay a tremendous fine on the spot or else you go to jail. Sincerely, HKK expositor (from Midwest/Minneapolis) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 02:57:49 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: FMR 4/23/{4 if you are interested in going to the FMR on 4/23 and are in the boston area we are running a van from wellesley e-mail me if you need a ride or a pass or whatever :) wfs jetta. -- \ / I sound my barbaric yawp over the roofs of the world... \ / \/ \ /\ / Wear a smile and have friends. What do we live for if \ / \ / not to make the world less difficult for each other? \/ \/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 10:32:58 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hades Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hades Organization: In This World (deep deep down inside) Subject: quick question for NYC people alright - I need info on these here places - where exactly is: Groove Records (I know its in brooklyn etc.. but address?) Liquid Sky Records and this place called "House," supposedly in the east village? I am on a record buying mission from the sky today, and would like info if anyone has it, before 12:30ish... thank you tres mucho much hades ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:21:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: for those of you going to Boom Well Scotto fucks up once again. Supposedly DJ Spun from San Francisco was supposed to arrive a day early so that he could spin at a party I went to last night (review later). It seems Scotto decided he didn't want to spend the money on flying him out here so he changed his mind and cancelled the deal. I was really looking forward to hearing him last night too. So if any of you are going just to see him... you have been warned. Alan Sanctuary keeps telling me how money hungry Scotto (NASA/Boom organizer) is and that's the reason he can't work with him. That's why the Outlaw parties aren't happening anymore. Bliss last night was not only at a new location that was partly outdoors but if you couldn't afford the $10 entry, then you could pay what you could afford. Ah, I'm sick of scene politics myself. Enuf for now, just wanted to spread the word and keep you all informed. More later... ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:56:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: quick question for NYC people >where exactly is: >Groove Records (I know its in brooklyn etc.. but address?) 64 Avenue U, (718)714-5232 >Liquid Sky Records It's actually Subtopia records (in the back of Liquid Sky) 241 Laffayette, (212)431-6718 (Liquid Sky has a separate phone number. >and this place called "House," supposedly in the east village? They don't sell any records, just a few mixed tapes, Urb magazine and some clothes. It's very small and I think it's on 7th st & first ave? maybe 6th St? Depending on what you're looking for you might also want to check out Disc-O-Rama (186 West 4 St.), the basement has mostly house but also a lot of techno. VinylMania (41 Carmine, near Bleeker, b/w 6 & 7th Ave) is also mostly house but also has a small wall dedicated to techno. If you're really serious about record shopping, you should take yourself to Planet X. They have the largest selection and more underground vinyl than most record stores in the city but it's in central NJ. 308 George St., New Brunswick, NJ (908)249-0304 well, that should help. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 13:21:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Wikkid Kool Trance From Deutschland, Ja? Hey folks, I picked up this mix tape from Central Station Records in Sydney the day before I left ( all was in mad panic and I *seriously* needed some *major* retail therapy to calm my racing nervous system :). The tape is called: HI-SHOCK - Live in Fracnkfurt Music Hall and has ENERGY TRANCE written at the top of the slip cover with four wierd heads on the front. It cost me OZ$25 but it is BRILLIANT! Anna & I were grooving down to it in the car on the Monday night going off something wild. It's very progressive, moving trance - even strait it can get your brain off the planet. The track I'm listening to now ( and most of my neighbours :) would even be great while cycling to get a real fast cadence going. I definitely think Simon from AusRave would call this "riding trance" - his definition for music that makes you feel like your on a horse riding hell for leather. Gee , I think Simon might have been watching "Man From Snowy River" once or twice too often :) If you like trance and if you like "progressive, moving trance", you'll love this. For independant opinions, ask Chris, Jeannie, Oz & Camper who were over here last Friday when I put it on - I can't remember too much of that night ( for some bizarre reason :) but I think they liked it :) Grant P.S. I got stuck in traffic on the way to the airport while listening to this - it sorta mellowed me out but pushed me on enough to do some "interesting" driving stuff - as it was, I got to the check-in gate for my Sydney to LA flight half an hour before it was due to leave. The guy who did my paper work and took my bags shook his head, gave me my tickets and said "Just sprint mate, just sprint!"... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 14:30:16 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: BOOM...secure space? ok, i just heard fromone of the boom promoters that boom lost their space for tonight. apparently they have secured a space one quarter of the original size i just wanted to post this for the sake of exchanging information. i do believe this source, but would like to have confirmation from someone else anyway. just thought you'd all like to know. im not trying to talk sh*t here. if i am wrong, then i need to know NOW because i know many people that are not gonna go because of this rumor. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 14:41:15 +0400 Reply-To: Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: NE-RAVES: error report from AOL.COM (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199404111914.PAA24966@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 11 Apr 1994, danFREELove wrote: > Just to let you know that I am removing plasma1000. This is NOT because > of the Pleasure Dome thing, NE Raves is an open forum for discusion for > all interested parties. But his account is bouncing and AOL is > indicating the account does not exist anymore. Yep, just like his phone number which has been disconnected. Methinks he is now in Florida living it up. :( Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 14:41:08 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: NYC piknik In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:47:29 EDT from On Thu, 14 Apr 1994 21:47:29 EDT Rishad J Quazi said: > > 2nd point to this post, the recent stuff about the so-called >'blanket posse'. excuse my self-indulgence here, but i've somewhat taken >it upon myself to be one of the original NE-raves blanket bearers since >last summer. i take a blanket to most of the raves i go to where i know >a lot of net folks will be attending, especially the outdoor ones. >the point of this is not so we can all sit on the blanket all night, >arms folded and shut ourselves off in our own little cybercliche. bull. >some of us are tired from driving many hours, from not getting enough >sleep during the semester, and yes, from dancing like maniacs. is it >such a crime to want to share a clean dry spot with your friends while >enjoying what is happening around you? i really hope that that 'stay the >fuck home' request takes this into mind. it's cool to dance and all that, Allright, I wasn't going to bother responding to stuff like this, but I will. There's no way that you can dance madly for 8-12 hours straight without stopping and still feel healthy afterwards. If your argument is that you deserve to sit down after dancing for a while, then I don't think there's anyone anywhere that's going to bitch at you. The fact that you can't bring blankets into some events these days is a protest by the organizers of those events, it's not a call for all you Linuses out there to start bugging out. Never take things too literally. Matt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:03:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Nomads Hey, does anyone know of an established nomadic movement in the US? I know about the Dead followers, and that their is a support network (farms, communes, etc.) for them even when they aren't actually following the Dead. I also know a little bit about the techno-nomads (BEHEMOTH, TechNomad (a zine)). But what about something similiar to the Travellers in the UK. Must be something else I have missed. Anyone know of a another group that does something similiar to this sort of travelling. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 15:07:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Schreiber Subject: Re: Planet-E rave-mag part1/2 a i e e /0 ; . e ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 16:19:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Re: for those of you going to Boom >Well Scotto fucks up once again. Supposedly DJ Spun from San Francisco was >supposed to arrive a day early so that he could spin at a party I went to >last night (review later). It seems Scotto decided he didn't want to spend >the money on flying him out here so he changed his mind and cancelled the >deal. > >I was really looking forward to hearing him last night too. So if any of >you are going just to see him... you have been warned. Alan Sanctuary >keeps telling me how money hungry Scotto (NASA/Boom organizer) is and >that's the reason he can't work with him. That's why the Outlaw parties >aren't happening anymore. >Bliss last night was not only at a new location that was partly outdoors >but if you couldn't afford the $10 entry, then you could pay what you could >afford. >Ah, I'm sick of scene politics myself. Enuf for now, just wanted to spread >the word and keep you all informed. More later... > > ___ > / / / / / / _ __/ >(_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ > > First of all, I don;t have time for this shit. I've got to get stuff up to BOOM for load in. The reason money has become an issue here is that the only space we could get for BOOM that would be at all comfortable has jacked the rent up three times in 24 hours. I would suggest _not_ speaking for Alan or anyone except yourself, I know as much about what happened in the creation of BOOM as anyone and I wouldn't post what someone said someone else said someone else said. If the only reason you were going to BOOM was to see DJ SPUN, then Dan is right don't come. If however, you are coming to contribute YOUR presence to what we are commited to being a fab time, then, please don't deprive us of your energy and participation. If you can't make it in person, we'll be jacked into VRAVE and to IRC Channell #rave. Can you say....Peace - Love - Unity - Respect. I knew you could. PLUR woof ( crazed and confused, but into it.) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 16:19:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Re: BOOM...secure space? >ok, i just heard fromone of the boom promoters that boom lost their space for >tonight. apparently they have secured a space one quarter of the original size >i just wanted to post this for the sake of exchanging information. >i do believe this source, but would like to have confirmation from someone >else anyway. just thought you'd all like to know. >im not trying to talk sh*t here. if i am wrong, then i need to know NOW >because i know many people that are not gonna go because of this rumor. > >sprockett > > I can confirm that we lost the original space.... I can confirm that the new space will be 'secure'. I can confirm that we are commited to throwing a _very_ phat party PLUR woof ( on the way to load in) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 17:00:08 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: for those of you going to Boom In-Reply-To: <199404162019.QAA11340@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: > If you can't make it in person, we'll be jacked into VRAVE and to IRC > Channell #rave. No offence but why channel #rave on IRC? The people there keep the channel locked and aren't very friendly. I believe it would be much better if you create a new channel like #boom-rave on IRC for the same purpose. As Laura said on alt.rave they people on #rave aren't very PLURey. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 21:23:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Deep Space 9 Well, last night was WEIRD :) Let's see, first of all, net people in attendance that I bumped into Rob, John Sweeny :), Peter, Sandy Goodvibe, Peekay, Mike, Frank, Allan, um.....Ferg and his friend with the beautiful name I can't remmeber.... The place was defiantly amaizng! I loved all the intimate rooms and spent most of my night in a back room, curled up in a window box listening to housy music comgin fromt he next room. [I miss good HOOOOOUUUUUSE! :) ] The vibe was really amazing some of the time [till a bunch of club-kids that looked about 12..all carrying beer of course came into the place...I dunno..unnerves me a bit] Well, at first, not many people were dacing, but as the night went on..and by the time we left, Scott was spinning and well..who can help but dance to it :) It was great seeing you guys again :) Although I was completely [and naturally] out of skulls that night so sorry if I didn't talk and dance with ys as much as I normally love to do with my net buddies! :) [but well....y'understand I'm sure :) ] Thanks to Frank and Allen for driving us... [and the rice krispie treats and necklace!!!! :) ] I PROMISE next time I'll get directions :) [giggle.....] The sign really did look great...unfortuantly, before I left [and took it withr me] someone ripped part opf it, I'll try to mend it before the next event..wish it ws lamenated or something....maybe one of those things where you can write your name and it'll coem off later with marker, so we can kinda sign in so people can look for who they want to see...oh, speaking of, I haven't seen Steve in Months! and he said he might come lst night.....did anyone spot him? Ah well....I'm just procrastianting my paper...yes, I love work [blech!] So.........it was great seeing ya'll again....next time I' ll be back in skulls again :) and we can dance till de sun come up and d'ere after! Frank: promise me a place to build my hut on the island and I'll pray for you to win the money :) Love you guys so much!!!! Melzie aks has a feeling she won't be asked to be navagator again [*BLUUUUUUUUSH!!!!!] OH! I forgot the strangest part of the evening! After we drove back to my place, it was still dark out [we left early] and the guys [frank allena nd peekay] were outside around the car smokin' and tlaking. So I'm inside and I left the door open so Peekay could come back in when he was done smoking and the doorbell rings...I'm pissed cause I think one of them is just trying to wake the poeple asleep upstairs, and i go to the door to find this cop there.....with one of their driver's liscences in hand..."these guys say they're with you..do you know 'em" well, I said I did and that one of them ws supposed to come back inside and all that and he said something about not to cop an attitude with him and whatever and I apologized adn said I was just startled [and scared to death that one or all of them would have been searched] but all was cool and we came inside and went to sleep....end to a peaceful night. Although the clouds looked like they were straight out of My Own Private Idaho. :) Zoooooooming o'er the earth Ah well....my night...my life...warped...or as I've been saying lately.... Loopy!!! -so mel, how's life? -weird weird weired -uh? -weird weird weird...but fun :) Love ya! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 22:52:14 -0900 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Church of Extacy on MTV I was watching MTV Sports today and during a segment on bobsledding, they played Church of Extacy "Devil Beats", my favorite CoE song!! I almost soiled my drawers. Also, I have been hearing One Dove "Breakdown" in the background of one of their commercials so I'm not surprised to hear it will be on 120 Minutes, though I have yet to catch it. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 23:50:51 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV In-Reply-To: <199404170251.WAA12585@holmes.umd.edu> On Sat, 16 Apr 1994, Tai Nguyen wrote: > I was watching MTV Sports today and during a segment on bobsledding, they > played Church of Extacy "Devil Beats", my favorite CoE song!! I almost > soiled my drawers. > > Also, I have been hearing One Dove "Breakdown" in the background of one of > their commercials so I'm not surprised to hear it will be on 120 Minutes, > though I have yet to catch it. Well I'm sorry but MTV is behind. The Box Network has been playing techno videos for atleast a year and a half now. Most recently there is a big promotion for Deep Forest's CD and the video for Awesome 3's Don't Go (Kicks Like a Mule) as well as Digital Orgasm's Time to Believe is currently up for selection. Before this they have had videos from The Prodigy, Jay Dee, Utah Saints, The Shamen, Altern-8, Lords of Acid, Orbital and abunch of house stuff. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 00:01:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV In-Reply-To: <9404170351.AA28471@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Joe LeSesne" at Apr 16, 94 11:50 pm > Well I'm sorry but MTV is behind. The Box Network has been playing techno > videos for atleast a year and a half now. Most recently there is a big > promotion for Deep Forest's CD and the video for Awesome 3's Don't Go > (Kicks Like a Mule) as well as Digital Orgasm's > Time to Believe is currently up for selection. Before this they have had > videos from The Prodigy, Jay Dee, Utah Saints, The Shamen, Altern-8, > Lords of Acid, Orbital and abunch of house stuff. > Joe > Joe: What is this "The Box Network"? Just wondering thanks U sweet soulful child u/ NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 13:24:52 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hades Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hades Organization: In This World (deep deep down inside) Subject: A list of stores to put in FTP? Hey everyone, I wanted (last week even) to post a mention of stores that I have been running through to get enough vinyl to be able to dj for hours - previously I've used my own cd's and the record station's cds for my radio show, but that limits me for live stuff (which I am now doing) - thus my hunt began... btw I am/was looking for house mainly (leaving techno to my cds) well I thought it might be nice to establish some sort of database where people who want to know where to look for stuff dont have to post to the list "where is such and such, is this store any good, can I listen to stuff?" like I did. it could be placed in ftp. yall might say that this would be better for the bpm mailing list, but I was on it for a while and i really can't deal with two lists, even so it should be available for anyone who wants it....and if something like this exists, then, ummm.....sorry for wasting bandwith? :) If anyone is interested, I'd be happy to help set it up, compile reviews etc and get it into techno.stanford..... anyway, on with my original plan WASHINGTON DC 12" Dance Records, close to georgetown @ dupont circle stop... Selection is house with some hip hop and some random techno thrown in. Mostly vinyl, but a few cds up front. Selection is wide; features a catolog with in-store stock. new releases take up an entire wall and the floors... listening choices are either by asking the working dj to play it or finding the play copy and listening to it yourself - three people can hear stuff at once that way (two on private turntable, one through the dj). Two cd players are available for those purchasing cds. Prices are mostly $5.99 per 12", some are more $$$. CD's are about the same as any store. Staff is knowledgeable and highly friendly, as is the clientele. Don't know if they take trade-ins, but I would guess they do... Overall - 5 (out of 5) NYC Disc-O-Rama, @Christopher St/Sheridan Sq stop (that's the 1/9). ...I've known about d-o-r for a long time and done cd shopping there, never venturing to buy records from downstairs until a couple of months ago. Selection is everything in the CD dept (upstairs) and house/hip hop downstairs (vinyl). Much of the store is devoted to used/promo trade-in CDs. Downstairs is not particularly organized; new releases generally get wall space but may show up other places as well. Listening options are through the dj only, none for cd purchasers. Prices are cheaper than other places, with CD's generally being $10, and 12" $4.99 up. Staff is knowledgeable but not helpful as the store is almost always crowded. Accept trade-ins. overall - 4/5 Zapp Records, on Bleeker (same stop) Selection is alternative cds. it was full of ravelings and had some nice techno playing when I walked in. only a handful of lp's on the floor, priced at $1 or something. store is small but well planned. listening options are through counter staff. prices are similar to other cd stores. Staff is friendly and helpful. Don't know about trade-ins. overall - n/r since I didn't stay all that long to look through all the cds. (maybe someone could expand on this for example?) Liquid Sky/Subtropia (same stop, on lafayette between prince and spring sts) Liquid Sky is somewhere I have been meaning to get to, but I was a little saddened there. It used to be somewhere else and that location seemed much bigger to me. anyway, it is in back of subtropia (sells raveling clothes at 20-30 dollars per tshirt, or backpacks marked up cause they have a tiny piece of reflexite on them - kids, make your own if you want it!! saves money!) selection is mostly vinyl with some cds, and house/progressive/breakbeat/ hardcore/ambient are among genres represented. new releases get wall space. selection is somewhat small. listening options are through the dj, or two turntables w/headphones. Prices are muy high, with 12" starting at $6. CD's are frequently $22. (I have no idea why this is. I got "global cuts" in Illinois,techno negative-land, for $10, yet l.s. is selling it for $22?) Staff is definitely friendly and knowledgeable, tho. I am not sure about trade-ins, but since these records are used, they may accept them. one thing to note - they will NOT accept credit cards for purchases under $40. use cash. overall - 3/5 - a nice place to visit, but I am not sure I would want to use it for serious record purchasing. anyone else have thoughts on establishing some sort of thing like this? we review raves all the time, so why not try stores? la paix to you all. -hades ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 14:46:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Liza J. Weinstein" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Liza J. Weinstein" Subject: Study In-Reply-To: <9404161909.AA51520@moose.uvm.edu> Hi there cybertribe. Listen, I will be posting a questionnaire soon on one's use of 'E'. It's for an independent study in Psychopharmacology. It will be a long message, but it shouldn't take you more than 15 minutes to fill out. Now this is the pooper about it. It has to be anonymous, hence if you fill it out, you'll have to send it to me by mail (not E-MAIL,unless you know how to send it anonymously) without a return address. Now that could be real pain in the neck for you, but it would be real favor to me. Anyway, it'll be fun. My friends always like filling out these things. You can either print it out and fill it in, or just respond to the questions on another piece of paper with a pencil, just write down the number with the answer. I only have a few more weeks to get this done, so I hope you'll all respond when I post it. In the meanwhile, I'm trying to figure out this whole anonymous information I've been receiving. Thanks to all who've already started to help me out. :) Happy Trails, Tranquiliza ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 15:42:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: good techno on cd In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:25:55 -0400 High-End stuff is exactly the kind of stereo equipment that I deal with on a regular basis...Conrad-Johnson, PS Audio, CAT, Proac, Paragon, Apogee etc....... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 15:53:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: quick question for NYC people In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 16 Apr 1994 11:56:41 -0400 How does Planet X compare to Groove?.... Both are a real quest for the holy grail to get to....so its really a toss up for me...I've been to Groove already but my trips are ussualy months apart, so is it really worth traveling to New Brunswick to record shop? TOM By the way Will you forgot to mention Eight Ball records I've been picking up a lot of techno there lately....they set up a Turntable with headphones so that you can get your self a stack of records and just browse thruogh at your own pleasure....I think they also reduced thier prices to be inline with other stores in the village....$4.99 Domestics...$8.49 imports...... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 16:33:41 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV box channel? what is this? id be kinda interested to see what viduals video arti sts come up for for techno music.. allison ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 17:49:20 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: secret junior vasquez party Junior Vasquez international d.j./producer/remixer artists include: madonna . prince . lisa lisa direct from the Sound Factory N.Y.C. Sunday, April 24 only live performance outside the sound factory (n.y.c.) also traditional beer bash sunday [what the???] only at Phoenix 85 St. John Street, New Haven, CT for advance tickets and locations of ticket outlets call (203) 865-3911 ---- this is really hush hush cause i guess junior isn't supposed to spin outside the sound factory, so they're not promoting it at all in nyc or anywhere too close. i got the flyer last night at Frenzy. more on that later. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 19:54:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: burnout i had been noticing it for quite a while now, though i really didn't feel like acknowledging it-it seemed like i was burning out as regards to the party scene. not that i would have a bad time, mind you....but more often than not i would find myself in the company of friends rather than dance; it seemed like i could no longer get into the happy groove that i had used to. i chalked it up to the fact that i was getting older, and possibly a tiny bit jaded-after all, i've been in this scene for quite a while now and the "newness" has worn off considerably. i chalked it up to the music that was played (thou gh we've already had WAY too much argument over music styles so i wont go too deep into this ;)). i chalked it up to the fact that, more often than not, i fou nd myself tripping over people in k-induced stupors. I chalked it up to the f act that people didnt seem as friendly anymore. so now, after returning from Super Wiggle in Charlottesville, i am happy to say that all my fears were quite a bit premature. maaaaaaaannnnn, was this an incredible experience; you needed a machete to cut your way through the vibe! wiggle was an oldskoolvibeheavyobliviontranceinducingalteredstatesdancing maniacrowdbecomingoneentityfuckin'BLAST!!!! wow!!! wiggle was a trip back to what it was like before i had gone to a zillion events and the experience was still fresh for me-i thought that i had lost this feeling cause of time and the fact that "it wasnt new anymore", but i was WRONG. i had never lost the feeling, it just chose to remain hidden until a really SUPERIOR event could bring it out. and what brought it out? just the basics, ma'am: a small room filled to capacity by an enthusiastic crowd, a warm friendly atmosphere (i hugged god knows how many people, and met a lot of neet new folks), free water, and a solid, quality lineup. solid lineup? damn, thats selling it short! josh wink AND scott henry AND nigel richards were at super wiggle, along with todd krulak, dave javate, fil, keith kennebeck, tzeech, and a few more...the beats were coming atcha so hard that you couldnt HELP but to dance to the point of severe dehydration...and the tunes were wicked crazy phat (*snicker* forgive me, i need more sleep).. nigel richards had a great set of hard experimental acid that was a pleasent change from the usual here in the mid-atlantic scene...i was dancing to this somewhat, though the huge mass of people stuffed into that tiny room made it really hard (things cleared out a bit Around 3am, when most of the UVA college kids split, leaving us some much-needed dancing space). scott henry was.... well, he was scott henry. needless to say, i was a ball of dancing energy! dave javate was spinning some SWEEET stuff as well, though i had to physically FORCE myself from the dancefloorto save some energy for later on....can you say josh wink? i was expecting the usual (if there is such a thing) house or tribal set from josh, but he surprised everyone by launching into a trance set that could not be described as anything but beautiful. whoa...it was amazing. when i had no more energy to dance, i sprawled myself onto a speaker stack and literally found myself in a TOTALLY altered state from the music-it was like i was viewing heaven from INSIDE my own head! oh yeah, i was dead sober at the time too.... fucking AMAZING. big big BIG props goes out to duncan to putting this on...if you've ever been to a wiggle party, you know that they are done right-this one even more so. (oh yeah, just incase you have no clue what wiggle is: its an every-friday gathering in charlottesville, va at this old movie theatre...$5 admission, free movies [this time was dazed and confused, waynes world 2, and tombstone], sweet little dancing space behind the screen, and a lot of fun. ) the fact that the price was held to $5 remains even more amazing. his, hellos, hugs and smooches go out to all the people i met and met up with: derek tiffany, andy cerutti, john goldman, laura larimer, jennifer b, hilary, keith (dj tzeech), duncan, jillian, gabe, xtofer, rob c, nigel, josh, scott henry, dave javate, todd krulak, megan, and everyone else ive forgotten (a huge long list) once again, *wow* -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 20:22:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: burnout In-Reply-To: <9404172354.AA03279@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "*" at Apr 17, 94 7:54 pm Glad to hear that you found your VIBE-opolis again man. Go to GLOW and we'll all smother each other in it!!!! *;) Wish I could have been there, but distance counts for something!!! *;( See ya all (I mean all of U) this summer!!!! NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 22:16:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: quick question for NYC people >How does Planet X compare to Groove?.... Both are a real quest for the holy >grail to get to....so its really a toss up for me...I've been to Groove >already but my trips are ussualy months apart, so is it really worth >traveling to New Brunswick to record shop? At Groove, the selection is more limited. Hard acid, hard trance and hardcore. In addition, the DJ has to play the records for you. They do carry trance but not very much. Sometimes I'll go back in 2 weeks and they have the same records there. Jimmy is very nice and so is Adam but he's a bit more reserved. Planet X has most of what you can find at Groove and more including, trance, house, progressive house, tribal, hip-hop, etc. Planet X has a large selection of underground vinyl that I can't seem to find anywhere else. Spike is a bit 'in yer face' and Larry is cool but they have two turntables in the back so you can grab or ask for records and hear them at your own leisure and not have to deal with anyone. They also have CDs, t-shirts and accept credit cards which Groove doesn't. It takes me an hour to get to either store from NY city and it costs me about $11.50 round trip to get to New Brunswick by train compared to $2.50 to Brooklyn. Stores in the city are alright but they either stock domestic house or German hard acid & hard trance. I prefer mostly underground British progressive stuff so it's worth it for me to trek down to Planet X every couple of weeks. >By the way Will you forgot to mention Eight Ball records I've never been, I think I'll check it out sometime this week, thanks! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 23:27:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Cat Stevens and thinking.. I am just sitting here playing a marathon game of Windows Solitaire. I play this whenever I want to get my head into a shape, the game generally blurs and I end up in this pensive though, my hand guiding the game and my consciousness absorbed. This is when I do alot of thinking. Tonight I dropped some Cat Stevens into the CD and it really put me in a state. Now I am thinking and dreaming and wondering.. I think back to the 60's, not as that generation of hippies, but as that generation of beautiful ideas. Alot of it was a precursor to what we can do now, they gathered to break the mold of the monolithic 'system' that came out after the 30's, 40's and 50's. Now I am sitting and listening to a faint echo from them, Cat Stevens. Even that beautiful man has passed into history, who he was is gone now. He runs a school in England, outside of London. He is a devout muslim. And when the order to kill Salmon Rushdie he echoed the Ayatohla in the sentance, to kill a man for thinking and writing. I don't know, I need to know though. What? I don't know. Will we ever inspire something that can last beyond us? Will we be able to create something beautiful that can last? The 60's degenerated eventually, as all moments in history do, but it left us with a more open culture. It also left us with great works of art, with thinkers, with a whole new paradigm for youth to remember. What can we do to transform? We are ravers, and we gather to have fun. But is that all it is? When I first heard about raving I thought it might be what I had been looking for. A family, a tribe, an idea, a goal and a path. I found it was alot of that, but now I don't know if it is all of that. Here we have created something special, a tribe based on an entirely new system. Something that had never been dreamed of before, a computer network. It is amazing, the network not only lets us communicate, but provides a paradigm for connection. A way to look at a world that was first based on how far you could walk, the ride a horse or boat, then ride a train or steam ship, then telegraph, then call, watch or jet plane out to. Now we have a new paradigm, a thousand nodes, all connected. This is something special, but not enough. Not everyone can enjoy this. Not everyone wants to. But this is not my point right now. What about the rest of the ravers. Is it just a weekend excursion for most of them? I heard someone say once that raving is not a lifestyle like being a dead head is. I disagreed. But am I wrong? I know that I beleive in raving as something beyond a party, or who you know or how you dance or what style of music you like. To me it is a community, a dream shared. But will the ravers be able to create something that is more tangible than this dream. Will we degenerate like early hip-hop, or early country, or early reggae? So far we have managed to miss out on commercial success, and that has let us be ourselves. But when it does happen and people realize there is more to techno than beat will we be washed away in the crass commercialism that will ensue? I hope not. I hope something happens, a gathering of direction, of purpose shared. What can we do? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 23:01:50 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [4/18/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 4/18/94 *************** *********************** "Reviews by DJ John Avery" ************************* ******************************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat Records in Union City, NJ. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. Readers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to the store. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MERCURY RECORDS: "In De Ghetto"--David Morales & The Bad Yard Club (858 657-1) Using a female reggae vocal and trademark Morales style, this 12" should make a name for itself in the NYC area, due to the popularity of practically everything Morales touches. Overall, the track works best for me when the keyboards kick in after a beautifully long intro. (Morales always comes through on making his tracks "DJ friendly"!!!) No downtempo remixes are included like "The Program", only house mixes, with the "Bad Yard Club Mix" clocking in at 10:45 and featuring more vocal work than the "Tribal Bass Mix". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TEST PRESSING: "Never Leave You Lonely"--Diva Convention feat Michelle Weeks Unfortunately this comes on Test Pressing which makes it nearly impossible to tell you the label information, etc. What I can tell you is to BUY THIS RECORD ASAP if you even claim to be a house DJ. After about a month of strong play on the NYC mix shows (via import), this track is now ready for domestic consumption. Using the female vocals of Michelle Weeks and production very similar to that of Nick Stonebridge and Rob Nice, I see this track destined to be the next Robin S. "Show Me Love". It's simply that good. A beautiful vocal hook and catchy keyboard lines were all it took to convince me. Track this one down and see for yourself. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Get Down"--2 Direct (SR-12238) Although hundreds of records have sampled Loleatta's "Love Sensation", this one seems to stay fresh. The producers, Bill Marquez and Anthony Acid are establishing themselves as strong new entities in the NYC house arena and this track will further their cause. Using the ever-popular sinewy bassline and a bouncy kick drum, this track gets its real flavor from the "Love Sensation" samples and a wicked organ breakdown that fits well in church-oriented settings. (ie. Limelight, NYC) The energy contained within the grooves could possibly be described as "hard-house" but we know what happens when people classify things so I'll leave it up to the listener to check this record out and feel just how strong this can be. And hey, it's not on import either!!! Buy it!!! Nuff said!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These reviews are from DJ Friendly STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS "Morel's Grooves Part 5"--George Morel (SR 12239) The latest in this series by George Morel, one of the most versatile house produces in NYC. Part 3 is already a classic, Part 4 was sort of a dud, but this one is absolutely the best! "Don't Give Up" is a soulful, motivating pseudo-vocal that sort of falls between the cracks of the red brick/blue brick system. The intro runs about three minutes, so unlike a lot of recent vocal tracks, you won't need two to work into it. "I Feel It" is a SLAMMING trance house track that will see lots of play in months to come. Kudos to Morel for kicking different flavors on the different sides, each worth buying in itself. "So Glad (I Found You)" - Earl Bennett (SR 12221) Earl Bennett of "Alright" fame kicks another beautiful garage number with B.O.P. team Paul Scott and Shank Thompson. Man, does this boy sing it! Fellow Strictly star Joey Washington helps supply gospel style backgrounds for this well-produced song. Definite anthem material here, so don't hesitate to give it a listen. _______________________________________________________________________________ A&M RECORDS "You Don't Wanna Miss" - For Real (31458 0537 1) Following the recent revival-trend of releasing records with both house and R&B mixes is this monster from For Real. House mixes by Gio Brembilla and slow jams by "Silk" Hurley, this one is a hit. Get two for the house mixes, 'cause there's no intro in sight. "I'm Not Over You" - CeCe Peniston (31458 0575 1) "Another CeCe Peniston record?!" you say? Not so! Yes, there are the mixes you would expect here, but RUN to get this for the Jr. Vasquez mixes. Unlike his Robin S mixes, he throws away the original and builds up a Sound Factory stomper from scratch. If you like that deep, deep sound, don't miss this one, because there's not a lot of vocals styled like this. _______________________________________________________________________________ EPIC RECORDS "Moving On Up" - M People (49 77417) This has been a very good month for the majors, putting out lots of great records to spread the house gospel. This one come with two mixes each from Roger S and MK. My picks are the Roger S vocal, which gets in deep with sax samples, clashing keys, and a super funky bass line, taking the song out of its original major key into a groovin' jazzy swing, and MK's dub, a nice minimal production that'll move anyone that liked his work on Queenie last fall. _______________________________________________________________________________ ACTIVE RECORDS "Stars" - Nerissa (0-25032) This double pack of mixes by Todd Terry and Darryl James/David Anthony has a little more filler than it needs, so skip straight to disc 2 for the meat. Todd's Club Mix is done in classic style (classic house, not classic Terry) with funky hard beats, strings and saxes to take you back to the day. D&D Funkin' Mixes I and II give a beautiful mix of styles, with progressive- sounding keys and what must be live sax work combined in a soulful manner. 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Also check out, 89.9 WKCR FM every Thursday night from 11:30 to 1:00 for Reggae Rhythms and the Stretch Armstrong Bobbito hip-hop show immediately after, until 5 AM. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For back issues of the UPDATE, check the pub/raves/music/dj/dj-trax directory at the techno.stanford.edu ftp site. If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 23:17:09 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. In-Reply-To: <9404180347.AA16396@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Apr 17, 94 11:27 pm > > We are ravers, and we gather to have fun. But is that all it is? When I > first heard about raving I thought it might be what I had been looking > for. A family, a tribe, an idea, a goal and a path. I found it was alot > of that, but now I don't know if it is all of that. Here we have created > something special, a tribe based on an entirely new system. Something > that had never been dreamed of before, a computer network. It is > amazing, the network not only lets us communicate, but provides a > paradigm for connection. A way to look at a world that was first based > on how far you could walk, the ride a horse or boat, then ride a train or > steam ship, then telegraph, then call, watch or jet plane out to. Now we > have a new paradigm, a thousand nodes, all connected. This is something > special, but not enough. Not everyone can enjoy this. Not everyone > wants to. But this is not my point right now. > I think you brought about a great point Dan (Thanks to Microsoft(tm)). But as far as I know, this entire system (rave listerserv's and vrave) is basically new, and since it is basically passed on through word of mouth, then it is hard for others, outside of our community to find us!!! Massive Magazine has an add run in it I believe every issue with the address' of each area's listerver and of vrave......this is a start, but perhaps we should promote this "Eden" a little more at events. Maybe, since we have these badges, we should also dezine a flyer to support the scene. > What about the rest of the ravers. Is it just a weekend excursion for > most of them? I heard someone say once that raving is not a lifestyle > like being a dead head is. I disagreed. But am I wrong? I know that I > beleive in raving as something beyond a party, or who you know or how you > dance or what style of music you like. To me it is a community, a dream > shared. But will the ravers be able to create something that is more > tangible than this dream. Will we degenerate like early hip-hop, or > early country, or early reggae? So far we have managed to miss out on > commercial success, and that has let us be ourselves. But when it does > happen and people realize there is more to techno than beat will we be > washed away in the crass commercialism that will ensue? I hope not. I > hope something happens, a gathering of direction, of purpose shared. > I think that if we don't watch it, it just will be become a weekend trip for kids to flee their troubles. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but perhaps it should shape their lives more. I hate to use this word, but I think we need to take "Control" of the scene. When I was at my last E. Coast event, Future Groove in Long Island, I saw a lot of people there, but the vibe was tired, or at least tied down. I got there at about 10 and no one was dancing! This carried on for another 10 or so minutes then I decided I had enuf and got out. On top of that, this type of sit around attitude continued throughout the evening. I don't have a problem with people standing around and watching, but it tends to pull me out of the vibe if I can't see enough smilin', sweatin faces. So, back to the point. I figure if we can hand out info flyers on the scene, like the one handed out at FG, along with info on our list scene, then we can get a larger mass of people, and a better vibe. I don't want to see such a great scene dive to the depths of history so fast. > What can we do? > PROMOTION!!!!! -----> I know this is commercialism, but if we want to reach people then this is what we have to do. At least this is the idea that has hit my mind. Don't worry ......we'll all keep the vibe alive NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 21:55:33 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. I've been doing this rave thing for about two years now, and while it has beautiful transcendant moments it is also so filled with idiocy and hipocracy that sometimes I just want to forget I ever got involved. When I see people who like one kind of music calling each other "anal-retentive fucks" or "snotty twats" or insulting people by going on and on about how boring and cookie cutter the music some of their raving friends buy and spin is I get really bitter and cynical and wonder what the point is. In some ways we are rotting from within. It's not the media or trendy outsiders who are going to kill what we've been doing, but it's ourselves. In many ways, large and small, we've been going around hurting each other. I know I'm guilty of this at times, and I profusely and sincerely apologize. If you want to save anything, let's save our family first. Anyone who was at MGP last year, or any of the Central Park picnics, might want to meditate on that. Sprockett's full moon party will be a good time and place to build positivity and maybe even heal some hurts and form new friendships. Have a *great* time. Personally, I think codifying any kind of movement is a bad idea. Putting too much agreed-upon meaning on raves and vibe and feelings and anything else makes it "heavy" and ripe for bickering over. Personally, I feel that thinking about it on a base level as just a party is a good way to maintain some perspective. There is nothing wrong with raving just to have fun. This gives each individual the room to do and feel whatever they want whenever they want however they want. Anyway, I'll close with some very good advice: be excellent to one another party on dudes Laura ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 01:06:17 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: raving as lifestyle, etc. i read yalls posts and had a few comments of my own. yes, i think that raving is greater than just a bunch of people dancing all night. im not sure rave is my lifestyle, but it is certainly one of the more fulfulling parts of it. i think this is mostly because of my rave connections on the net. ive found more support, love, and devotion here than i think i could ever have expected as a net neophyte 2 years ago. i think the raving is just a catalyst - an excuse for u all to meet in strange locales in the middle of the night to socialize and enjoy ourselves. i admit, i would probably have never gone to a party out of state had i not known id meet a bunch of penpals there:) will raving survive? good question - i think it will continue to evolve and go on, eventually becomeing something completely different, under a different name. however i hope that people will rave (or whatever it will be called) because they like being together - not just because its the latest thing or some such. just my $.02. alliosn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 01:55:32 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MARIANA.VITURRO@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MARIANA.VITURRO@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU Subject: sub-calender Hi i would like to get a calender of the raves in the noth east. thank you mariana viturro ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 02:24:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Elizabeth.La.Williams@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Elizabeth.La.Williams@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU Subject: sub-calender north eastern raves- calender ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 02:47:18 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. In-Reply-To: <199404180455.AAA17667@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Laura La Gassa wrote: > be excellent to one another > > party on dudes > > Laura hey am i being sampled? or is that bill and ted...??? wayne and garth??? now susie and laura??? geeeez...partyon...susie(: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 05:41:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: "Cat Stevens and thinking ..." (Sorry, this is a really long post but I think U should read it anyway :) BEAUTIFUL BIPEDS: As irony would have it, similar thoughts occurred 2 me this evening --although from the opposite side. I do not want 2 waste bandwidth by requoting Danarchy's post. In brief, he questioned whether or not the values of our rave culture will transcend the immediate. Before reading Dan's post, I was about 2 post another of my hopefully PLUR-inspiring messages. It had 2 do with some of the net interaction I have experienced lately. I had been stewing over some senseless arguments on vraves, lamenting un-received e-mail, and generally pondering the human capacity for self-absorption ;) So, tonight on vraves, on a childish whim, I /S'ed everybody :) For those of U who have never vraved, a /S would mean that U would get a message saying: "* You are being smoooOOOooOOOOOooOOOOOOOOOCHED by login/handle." In this case the login/handle would be mark/Mark. I like "smooches" because they are inherently playful & light hearted :) They basically mean, if I were a dog I'd wag my tail if I saw U ;) In other cases, they can be a bit more flirtatious or even symbolic of RL kisses. But whoa! tonight I got not only the usual thanks, questions & /S's in return, but several people actually scolded me! =:O Yes, people, they actually bothered 2 type things like "Back off, man!" I pursued a couple and they weren't kidding. It's hard 2 believe, isn't it? -- these people are ravers! What's up with that?!?! Sheeeeeesh! I think we have taken ourselves & each other way too seriously! It's not this one very trivial example, I've noticed several people, including myself, get just a bit too edgy over things. Raving was never meant 2 be grim. It's a party! What does all this have 2 do with Dan's post?? Well I'm going 2 get to that! Dan's post reminds me of an excellent article called the Imaginal Rave. It is available via ftp at techno.stanford.edu and has appeared in similar form in Under One Sky. In short, it discusses rave values, the beauty of raves, and the evangelism of bringing them 2 the world at large when one is through raving. That might sound silly 2 U. It is silly! I'm also serious. I'm serious about being silly!! Raves are meant 2 be fun :D People were meant 2 be loving and playful :) If anything truly profound should come of our subculture, I hope it's a ludic revolution! ;) [Check out Bob Black's essay "The Abolition of Work" if U want more of what I mean.] Firstly, How can we extoll these spiritual values of peace, love, unity & respect, if we cannot even express them honestly 2 each other? What is the point of spreading our message when some of us cannot get along with the people we already know? All enlightenment comes from within. Someone can show U the path, but U must take the steps 2 journey along it. Secondly, Creating a vibe is an internal art. If our values are not fully grounded within ourselves, all the hype and pretension means nothing. Hossam once posted about "weekend ravers" and complained about these people who only pretend 2 show PLUR at raves, but fail at it during the rest of the week. I couldn't agree more. I disagree with Ned that promotion is the answer. Raving itself is surely promoted enough! At almost every event I tell someone about ne-raves -- I'm sure many do the same -- don't worry our tribe grows all the time :) However, our strength is not in numbers. If U take Dan's analogy of the 60's, U will note that decade was composed of many different and diverse movements. It was the quality, not the quantity, of what people achieved that determined wether their goals withstood the test of time. I was speaking with Fred Strong, and he said 2 me "You know, Mark, I can find an asshole within twenty feet of me anytime -- IF I'M LOOKING FOR IT -- if somebody passes you on the street and smiles and is all happy, yr gonna smile and be all happy to the next person. If yr boss pisses you off or something, you take that out on the next guy. You know what do when I see these guys standing all like their tough at a party? I smile at them! Like as to say 'You can be that way but I love you anyway - fine! - like more power to you' You can't let other people bring you down." It sometimes too easy 2 get sucked into the promoter politics, the DJ worship, the cliquish social antics, the petty gossip, the drug romanticism, and the competitive snobbery. It's not who or what U know, it's what U can give, not what U can show. Perhaps some of U are here 4 the wrong reasons, 2 attain popularity or promote business, that's OK, the rest of us are here 2 show U the way :) In a way, this relates 2 the trouble with Pleasure Dome. PLUR is not blind allegiance. Nowadays, large events are hardly clandestine renegade parties that require secrecy. Paul Paul wrote "I find that a lot of times I have to make decisions based on circumstantial evidence and sometimes even hearsay when not able to see the facts for myself." Why? Many of the people we know and love, were hurt by what happened with PD. If U are dealing in business, they're yr ducats! U have the right 2 demand the truth & even proof of it if necessary. Some people try 2 hind behind PLUR, as if it were a gag order or a magic shield. It does not mean U have 2 be nice or happy all the time. It is not an excuse 2 avoid confrontation out of fear of making waves. Everyone has bad feelings sometimes, and often with good reason. All things of value are based on truth. If there is any value greater than the four pillars we have established, it would honesty. A past list administrator once wrote that all this peace and love is just "exstacy induced bullshit." I would certainly say not! Rather, I believe it is something precious that we all truly desire within ourselves. There is no excuse not 2 be considerate, responsible or sincere towards your fellow ravers. Let us re-embrace these basic human values. Just open your hearts and let the vibe show through :D PEACE OUT :) MARK I LOVE U ALL!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 08:09:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Introspective Moment... Wow, Last few weeks I've been back there's been a lot of soul searching & introspective posts going on - ranging from CD vs Vinyl ( again ), musical tastes ( again ) and the "why do we rave and who are we as ravers" long, dark, navel contemplating, angst ridden looks at the "scene"... Jeez, I thort it was all so simple. Look, here's a few guidelines for life. They're not flames, they're not whines or whingers, I'm just trying to get a bit of fun in before the serious stuff *really* starts to come down the net :).. 1 If you like it and it doesn't get in someone's face or terminate their life / enjoyment of life rapidly, JUST DO IT! Don't ask why, don't try to figure it out, just get out and HAVE FUN!!!! SMILE!!! 2 If you suddenly feel small, insignificant and that the whole universe is really pretty huge, long lasting and not entirely caring about lil' ol' you - give the world the Bird ( you know, the Finger - oooopppsss, I hate it when it does that :) and just remember that *YOU* are the most important thing in *YOUR* universe. Maybe not *THE* universe, but definitely the one that you see with your eyes and experience on a daily basis ( unless one of the things you do in Point 1 gets you into an entirely different universe n a semi-regular basis :)... 3 If you're not enjoying what you're doing - STOP. Don't do it. Do something else for a while and then try it again. Did you enjoy it this time? Cool, a break is sometimes handy to make you appreciate something more. If you didn't enjoy it - fine - keep doing something else until you get sick of that, then see steps 1 & 3 again. Don't worry and agonize about it 'cos that only makes it worse - just realize that despite your best efforts, you're only human! ( yes, even Inhuman is "only human" - we're all fucked up ex-tree climbers :). It's not your problem or "the scene's problem" if you find yourself not enjoying it - it's just "shit happening". 4 If you find yourself getting into a deep, heavy look at life, its meanings and all that shit - go for it - but make it quick - too much analysis of something is as bad as not enough. You find yourself rapidly on the way to needing Point 2 if you do ( or a good dose of Point 1 helps to bring you out of it :). 5 Don't let the BASTARDS get you down!!!!!! If they're shitting you, fine - fuck them - in 100 years, they'll just be compost ( mind you, so will you, but hey, at least you'll have had more fun than they will by the time you're decomposing - if you stick to Point 1 :). The people who look down on you or give you shit are only trying to justify their own poor use for a good set of atoms - it's their way of making themselves feel better by putting others down. Cool, go for it, it's their lives, just try to avoid them so they stop bringing your fun crashing down. If it means leaving your favourite dive 'cos of it - do it - you'll find another one soon enuff and gee, all the fun people will be there too 'cos they've left the other place to the assholes who are now bored again :) Look, I could go on ( and on, and on, and on, and on - until someone puts me out of your misery :) but in all seriousness - sure, have a look at things, a case of perspective helps keep you in line, but don't lose site of the one, single, most important thing in the entirity of life - LIVE TO HAVE FUN!!!!!! Leave the heavy analysis to the shrinks and sociologists :) Oh yeah, this is not a flame or to be taken as a "shallow kind of world view", even tho it is the latter :) I just wanted to leap in quick before another 400 messages decrying the end of "the scene", "the vibe", whatever arrive. Sure, look at what you do and learn from it, but don't be sad about it - see the good things, larf at the bad and you'll have a DAMN good time... Party higher, Spaceman Spliff (tm & puncture ) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 09:29:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: BOOM '94 - The aftermath The first thing is that I want to thank the Cybernaut Crew who came and jacked in. Untill I get the sfraves archive, I won't know exactically how it went. However, you all did a great job at dancing with the situation. Next, I'ts true that BOOM '94 has some problems, I've never done an event of any kind (and I've been in this for 20 years) that went off perfectly.....BUT...... I Think the evening was a success. Later today or this evening, I'll try to post some info on what happened from my POV which is Tech Director and long time associate of NASA. Again, thanks to all the cybernauts and to all of you from sfraves and #rave. woof ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 10:04:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: "Cat Stevens and thinking ..." In-Reply-To: <9404181045.AA12104@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Machine Media" at Apr 18, 94 5:41 am > (Sorry, this is a really long post but I think U should read it anyway :) That doesn't matter when it's as raw as this......Great thoughts and peace > return, but several people actually scolded me! =:O Yes, people, they This is definitely weird. I try to smoooooch everyone that enters, but never got that response.....but experimentation works!! ( by the way mark, you're more than welcome to smoooch me anytime!! *%) ) > actually bothered 2 type things like "Back off, man!" I pursued a couple > and they weren't kidding. It's hard 2 believe, isn't it? -- these people > are ravers! What's up with that?!?! > I disagree with Ned that promotion is the answer. Raving itself is > surely promoted enough! At almost every event I tell someone about > ne-raves -- I'm sure many do the same -- don't worry our tribe grows all > the time :) However, our strength is not in numbers. I think what I was trying to say when I started the article, and then drifted, was that we should take control of the media that looks at our scene or environment and mold into something positive. If the media doesn't like us, or just portray's us as dumb kids dropping our lives down a medicine cabinet then it just makes it more difficult for the point to get across, whatever each INDIVIDUAL raver decides is his/her point. > pisses you off or something, you take that out on the next guy. You know > what do when I see these guys standing all like their tough at a party? I > smile at them! Like as to say 'You can be that way but I love you anyway - > fine! - like more power to you' You can't let other people bring you > down." That is definitely cool. I see them too, and it bothers me, but I just keep it within. Perhaps I should try it sometime. Maybe even get as bold as going up to them and giving them a big 'ole hug!!! *;0 Mark....definitly one of the best summaries I've read....Keep posting! NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu SNAPPLES TO YA!!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 11:15:56 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. In-Reply-To: <9404180358.AA23595@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Apr 17, 94 11:27 pm Hey all, well ive read through some of the responses on this subject so far and all and a lot of them are idealistic and all about "What a rave is (to me)" but i donno. Like Laura, for the most part ive gotten rather cynical about the whole process, especially a few months ago when it when i woul spout how bad bad everything in the scene was, and i could go on endlessly with boring stories about how it was so fun going to events a year + ago and all in illegal places and shit, realizing that what you are doing isn't approved by the powers that be and really waiting for the man (his servant the police) to close the door on your night of revelry. To much to me now aday you see the encampment of what "raving" means and how much its become a scene, not like a movement or anything of the such. As a friend summed it up very well i was talking with last night: being fucked up all the time, smoozing with people and trying to be everybodys friend, and all the politics about who you know and who you don't know etc. etc. etc. whenyou see how much the scene is like that today its of no wonder how one can become cynical and sentimental :P but you cant live for the way things used to be and all. When people say that raving is a lifestyle id have to agree that to some extent it is, but being a "raver" i feel is only a part of my life and shouldnt be what defines you. I really hate when people come to me and ask me things like "So what the last rave you went to?" or other such similar things, like the only way im known is as some raver-kid, who's only purpose in life is to be this raver. I mean, hell the days when i would go to an event every weekend are long gone. There is just so much more to life then the ever present dance parties to do that i want to explore other avenues. Ive been to only 4 events this year total when i think about it. But no matter when it gets down to it raving has been a big part of my life the past year and a half +. Ive meet so many cool people and have had some really great times raving has been a good time. but as Laura also said, you can't really codifide and set rules as to what these parties should be. A rave is A B C and D, cause its bullshit and everyone's view is different. I really dislike the the PLUR saying casue although its a good creedo, i dont think it should be codified for everyone to follow it. God knows life is more then a PLUR game. Its more like you live, you do good, you do bad, you move on etc. (ok this point is dragging and not making much sense i move on...) basically tho, when i get down to it The best point ive learned through "raving" is the power of dancing. Dancing is the unifying and freeing force of any event and i feel its the most beautiful aspect of the "rave". I mean my most intense memory of any party was revelation when a whole bunch of people were just dancing and dancing all night and having a good time doing that: dancing to the music and feeding off each other so everyone was together as one in a mass of energy. I guess what ive longwindedly have been trying to say through this whole post is that the real meaning that will stay with us after the days of raving are long gone is what it means to dance, andhow dancing is the most beautiful thing in the world. Ok, and now i shut up and get back to work. doug ) ( p.s. - Mark, if you EVER try and kiss me on vrave ill belt ya ;) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 11:42:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. In-Reply-To: <199404180347.XAA17351@holmes.umd.edu> The mind just spins sometimes from the complexity of life ... Where is this all going? What is this that is going anywhere? In the grand scheme of World Culture, what role do we as the Rave Community play? And does this CyberTribe of ours even include the entire Rave Community? Since there were 3500+ at Resolution, for example, and 160+ on this list, it seems that the CyberTribe is the technological pocket of Rave culture ... But it seems to me, anyway, that the best thing we can do is teach by example ... If we really live PLUR, not just in the Rave Scene, but in our lives, we will extend a positive vibe into the world's energy Matrix, and it will grow and expand ... just like what happened in the Sixties ... until the Capitalists realized they could make a buck marketing drugs and sex and "freedom" to the "masses" ... Remember that everyone wants happiness and fulfillment and meaning in life .... but in a society as lost as ours, where extreme acts of violence are dissected on TV talk shows and turned into "Entertainment" (i.e. FOX's Menendez Psycho-drama), people have very little frame of reference ... In the American Consumer Society, where we are all taught we can buy happiness, and where the Media offers it to us as Total Instant Gratification, there is always the danger that the trappings of Rave Culture will explode across MTV, SitComs, and The Mall ... If only the things that really make our culture go with them ... If only people respected themselves so they could respect others ... The Four Estates (Government, Relgious Institutions, Big Business & The Media) are so intertwined and self sustaining ... I know it's discouraging ... but, luckily, it's built into the system that we can change it .. Everything is changing all the time anyway ... It's the everyday decisions we make that define the way things are ... Where do you spend your money? With responsible companies, or environemtally hostile ones? ... Did you vote? ... If there were no canidates you liked, did you run for office? or get someone you respect to run? ... Do you watch the shit that's on TV? The more we watch it, the more shit they'll show ... When you meet an unfriendly person at a Rave, do you say "Okay, but I'm not gonna let your unfriendliness effect my good time"? ... Do you show by example that you are having the best time by exhibiting Peace, Love, Unity & Respect? ... When you meet a kid at a Rave who doesn't dance 'cause he's intimidated, or who doesn't wear/own Puma/Addidas gear beacuse he doesn't know what's in, do you show him the way? or scorn him as not being a raver? ... We need to show people that clothes or money or drugs or race or sexual preference are not gauges by which people should be measured ... Personally, I don't like to judge anyone ... Who's to say that I'm right about any of this? Certainly not me ... Wow, I think this is my longest post, but I think it's a topic worth exploring ... And if we want a larger community, we should realize it will, by definition, change, evolve, expand, splinter, etc ... It's just part of the Human Condition that this is true ... Just trying to live the life I lead, Myg ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:12:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: further Now im curious, anyone planning on going to Further April 29th - May 1st? and how long of a drive is this from the Balt/DC/Philly area? thanks. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) flu'id (floo'-) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:40:13 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Spiritual Movement 4! Rumor has it...... No ONIONZ will he at 10 in Maine? He wasnt at Fever What the hell is up with that guy? John G. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:49:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: philly people help!!!! i know this is short notice, but if any philly poeple can help, i would be truly grateful:) i am looking for crash space for 3 popl e people for tomorow night, tuesday , for myself, a friden e iend adn my i sister. help is grately appreciated, thankx so much....peaz...peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:58:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. I understand the bitterness, but people should be pickier about the events you go to. I have been to practically everything in the DC/Balt area since Catastrophic, and I am tellin you, WIGGLE in Charlottesville is the best party to go to if you are down and out about raves... This party makes me want to quit my job, quit school, dropout of society, and be a full time raver. Full Time. The unity,the vibe, the respect, the Vics VapoRub, the everything there is amazing. Try it. And to those that are so bitter about the 'decline of raves' or whatever, find some other means of having fun instead of staying at raves and being a pisser. Raves are for people that want to go and want to have fun....not for whiners. I have felt that raves have become an evolved club scene and thats it, so I try to do something about it. Some of you may have gone to Pure Underground, I try to have events that are true to the scene, cheap (free!) and with quality music. That was for dancin' and havin' fun in whatever way you do it. If you like to rub Vic's VapoRub all over your body, go ahead and do it at one of my events! (I will be right there with ya!) Cheap and fun and full of spirit is the way to go...thats my intentions. I was disconcerted, so am taking things into my own hands...although nothing will ever happen without the rave kids who go and dance and dance and dance..props to ya.... My next party is on hold as the realities of throwing parties gets in the way...finances etc...but there will be another and many more Pure Underground type events. Support the people that support the scene.... PS I already bought my ticket for Rave the Bay! John G. peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:00:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 4! john g. wrote: Rumor has it...... No ONIONZ will he at 10 in Maine? He wasnt at Fever What the hell is up with that guy? John G. well, i heard from various people at wiggle that onionz is back in rehab again or something.....just a rumor, but i thought i'd relay it. *shrug* -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:02:32 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: AT&T Gets "Cool and Edgy" In-Reply-To: <199404151721.NAA03908@holmes.umd.edu> from "Marshal H. Villarosa" at Apr 15, 94 01:19:36 pm > GOODBYE, CLIFF--YO, SPIKE "This motherfuckin' phone is the SHIT, man!" :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:08:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalie J Olkwitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalie J Olkwitz Subject: Re: further In-Reply-To: <199404181612.MAA21251@holmes.umd.edu> from "flu'id" at Apr 18, 94 12:12:23 pm I'll be there allan but seeing as i live within like 2 hours of the location i am unsure as to the exact distance for you...if you'd like you can e-mail me your EXACT city and i'll figure out the miles for you :) Luv and smoochies Natali p.s. if you have bunches goin with you rent a ryder :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:26:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV here's some other stuff i've heard on MTV... 2 Unlimited "Twilight Zone" 2 Unlimited "Ready for This" LA Style "James Brown Is Dead" LA Style "LA Style Theme" GTO "Bullfrog" Moby "Go" Apothesis "O Fortuna" (Theme song to MTV Sports) Apothesis "Obumbratta" MARRS "Pump Up the Volume" Orb "Blue Room" Radioactive Goldfish "LSD is the Bomb" Bizarre Inc "I'm Gonna Get You" (Remix) and a list of others.... Anyone that lives in my res. hall knows that i used to bitch about how MTV plays techno just to sell their shows... but doesn't play techno videos. I don't complain about it anymore because I realized that one day I would see and hear preppy lacrosse jocks cruising around with cheerleaders with Roland Casper or Acid Junkies pounding from the car stereo.... yecch! what a horrible thought! underground gone POP! 1000 p.s. Tai: i was way too tired saturday night... but i admit that the mix of gabber with acid that i did was sorta funky. See you at Sunshine some time soon.... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:40:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: raving as lifestyle, etc. raving has been around snce the mid 1960s, it's doing nothing but getting stronger and better. bit o' info: Pink Floyd used to play at raves, they played at the "14 Hour Technicolour Dream": a hellish event. bit o' philosophy: what would J.S. Bach think of the 303+909 combination? hmm 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 14:50:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Odd Record Purchase Hi folks. So I was in new york city last weekend and I went to the Tower Records Clearance bldg. One of the things I picked up: "Now that's crap (country rap)" by "Homie on the Range". Yeah, you're probably thinking what I was thinking, until I saw the "Winking Techno Mix", mixed by Josh Wink and King Britt. Heee. It's kind of neat, considering it's two years old... -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 12:18:06 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: Cat Stevens and thinking.. John G writes: >I understand the bitterness, but people should be pickier about the events >you go to. I am very picky, and it makes a huge difference. But I was talking about things that net-ravers say to each other on ne-raves, alt.rave, and vrave. All those things I said in my last post were said by people who participate in those forums, and it's darn disheartening to see them go off about how vibey their particular corner of the music world is and have them dis what me and my friends have been doing in the process. Especially when some of the people saying such things are people I've shared very happy positive raving experiences with. I am not down and out about raves because of the parties I've been to: I've been going to a few parties here and there in San Francisco and Denver that are just brilliant, and I avoid the rest. I'm down and out because I'm sick of people talking out of the sides of their necks. They claim they have some special understanding of vibe, be it via the music they are into (particularly the whole raging anti-house, anti- breakbeat, anti-hardcore, anti-trance thing which really only serves to infuriate some people and hurt others -- read alt.rave if you really want to know) or via which parties/possees/DJs they are "down with" (tune into vrave for occasional outbreaks of this topic). Thus far Doug and I are the only two who have have expressed bitterness, so I'm guessing that your "whiney pissers" comments were directed at us. This kind of thing bothers me. Doug and I are not whiney pissers. Doug has thrown very good small parties and is not just sitting around bitching. Similarly, I've thrown some parties and helped with others. So don't assume that we're bitching for the hell of it. I agree with your and Grant's suggestions to try something else every once in a while. I went hiking up the California coast this weekend and it was amazing. So again, don't assume that I am going to raves every week and sitting around bitching, because I'm not. I guess my point with all this is that I don't believe raving can be any kind of grand movement what with all the sniping and infighting I see going on. Myg said it best in that post describing what an individual can do each day in their own lives. I think that all makes sense and is about as far as anyone can go with the "raving as movement" idea. But if someone's going to go with that, then is it expecting too much to hope that they will be sensitized as to when their statements and activities in the name of "vibe" are actually hurting some of their "raving brothers and sisters?" If the answer to this is "hey, tough it out" then so be it. I don't know if you'd call it raving or not but I'll just keep helping my friends drag their sound system down to the waterfront for a night of music (including my collection of tired old acid trance and boring cookie cutter trance records :-) ) and we'll still end up having fun anyway. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:17:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: raving as lifestyle, etc. In-Reply-To: <199404181842.OAA22894@holmes.umd.edu> from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Apr 18, 94 02:40:27 pm > bit o' philosophy: what would J.S. Bach think of the 303+909 combination? Bach would have hated the 303 (too atonal, hardly well-tempered), but would have loved the 909 (the continuo is an invention of the baroque period). 3rd Brandenburg Concerto, 3rd movt. = 180bpm. Too bad it's in 3/4, else it'd be the world's earliest hardcore track. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:03:24 EDT Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: raving as lifestyle, etc. In-Reply-To: Ed Horch's message of Mon, 18 Apr 1994 15:17:49 -0400 <199404181919.PAA23310@holmes.umd.edu> 3rd Brandenburg Concerto, 3rd movt. = 180bpm. Too bad it's in 3/4, else it'd be the world's earliest hardcore track. Yeah, a lot of ice and roller dance waltz music is around 180bpm too. Dancers hold their steps for several beats -- whew. I remember the fastest jazz being "Cheroke KoKo" (or something like that) performed by Charlie Parker at about 300BPM -- I should look it up again. Keeping up with the beat, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:17:23 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: AT&T Gets "Cool ... >> GOODBYE, CLIFF--YO, SPIKE > >"This motherfuckin' phone is the SHIT, man!" > >:) You STILL using dem other phones man? Wassup wichu? ;) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:25:07 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: SIMPLE site & info ok.... here we go.... i surveyed the site for Simple and here's the info: it's a big house that dates back probably 100 years or more... the main room has a DJ table and spaces for records and synths... the main room has spaces for medium/small PA speakers to be placed at ear level. the main room has an occupancy of around 80 or so dancers... there is ample spillover space for another 100 dancers in the kitchen and the chill-out area the basement space that is available to us is PERFECT for an ambient chill-zone... the basement space is not very big, and 20 people would make it crowded if they were moving... the basement space has areas that are cordoned off and locked, I will see about getting access to them... the front porch is perfect for quiet, mellow ambient... the backyard is dirt/mud and there is space for a bonfire... the garage looks like hell and is not very safe because of the bees nests and wasps nests (gotta take care of that)... the upstairs, as of now,is out-of-limits but we can see about it becoming a chill-zone... parking? there is a supermarket/mini-mall across and obilque to the house standard parking that is free and 24 hours, but i will confirm that so that nobody gets parking tickets. the house was used as a practice studio for a now-defunct alternative rock group... the house is now lived in by a few dudes... the house has a history for partying (the beer/prep/jock kind) here is my major concern... the venue is not very big, it will only fit SO many people. I would like to continue our policy of anyone-can-show-up, but I don't want the place to be packed beyond illegal occupancy and get busted on a technicality. here's what has been suggested to remedy that situation: make up a few hundred tickets and mail them to everyone that asks for one... only allow net ravers... only allow people that dress like ravers... only allow DJs and their friends... a few of the suggestions ring of the dreaded frat-party elitis, m that I completely disapprove of.I believe whoever wants to go should be allowed. right now i support the "tickets only" idea (#1).... any suggestions? 1000 P.S.all that wrote about DJ spots and synth/live spots, I have your names and acts charted on a play/performance list. LAST CHANCE for new talent!!! all those that wrote about help and other stuff,i have your names and will contact you later this week... i have a test to study for, gotta jump. "And then I blew out the candle..." -Richie Hawtin *squee*squee*squaw*squaw*squee*squee*squaw*squaw... *chirp*chirp*chirp*chirp* -anonymous TB-303 line [translated from Rolandese] ;) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:36:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: kutztown pa Oh one more thing that I found out about the Earth Day celibration in Kutztown pa is that they will have a.... MooN BouNce hehe...we so far we have 5 car loads going to the Earth day celibration and then to the Full Moon Rave in upstate...So if you would be interested in coming up and enjoying the day in KU then off to Upstate email me at: smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 13:49:51 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: SIMPLE site & info I think the tickets idea is the best one. It is the most effective and the least discriminatory. I think the "only let in people who dress like ravers" idea is the worst one. If part of raving is respecting people's individuality, then having a dress code defeats that. And besides, that would keep a lot of long-time supporters of the net and ne scene out of the party, which would be a real slap in the face to them. Good luck, it sounds killer. Laura ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:54:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM-first o' the week Hey Babe! Man! it's soooooooooo pretty out :) I wanna go to the harbour and play..actually, three people have tried to kidnap me today :) but anyways.....uh..here's the first of the HOM...don't forget to mail me if you wanna hang out here and hit the Hopkin's fair and all that :) Anyways....enjoy...love ya :) [are we meeting at funks again? it's a cool break in the week :) ] Keep well...love openly Melzie aka let others know how you feel...truly **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 23 FULL MOON RAVE NYC --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Melzie [ RIDE NEEDED-Balto] melzie@wam.umd.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com Speed racer aka Joe jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu Fresh Blend aka Matt st000912@brownvm.brown.edu Cat yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu Jacob JASCHOENLY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Donato donato@world.std.com Fish aka Rishad squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu DieselBoy damian@cislabs.pitt.edu Jetta vwang@wellesley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- April 29 10 Portland, ME ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Nadeau djn@christa.uhn.edu Dj Entox djentox@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, May 14 PLANET EARTH NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, May 20 THE AWAKENING Ashbury Park, NJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mars [SPINNIN!] a176@lehigh.edu Jenn-bug [Doin' Smart Bar!] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, May 21 MYSTERY MACHINE Allentown, PA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [Doin smart bar!] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, May 21 GLOW BALTIMORE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut [NEEDS RIDE-BALTO] melzie@wam.umd.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com Dtripper dtripper@access.digex.net Mars a176@lehigh.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ RAVE THE BAY Baltimore Harbor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Allen Menegay escapist@owlnet.rice.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ August 28 ARIA North Carolina ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenn-Bug [Doin Smart Bar] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 16:54:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: More SIMPLE info.... oops...i forgot to mention that the party is still FREE no money involved....but...(the catch) please leave a donation to help clean up the place and help to pay for gas money for the DJs and live acts... thanks! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:25:27 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CLIFTODA@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: CLIFTODA@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU Subject: "Info" I need information on being part of the system for ne-raves. You can get back to me at cliftoda@lanmail.shu.edu. Thanks, DAN DC DIGITAL DEVIANTS N.J. UNDERGROUND! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:32:02 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Odd Record Purchase In-Reply-To: <199404181852.OAA23050@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, David Sklar wrote: > Hi folks. So I was in new york city last weekend and I went to the > Tower Records Clearance bldg. One of the things I picked up: "Now > that's crap (country rap)" by "Homie on the Range". > > Yeah, you're probably thinking what I was thinking, until I saw the > "Winking Techno Mix", mixed by Josh Wink and King Britt. Heee. It's > kind of neat, considering it's two years old... > > -dave > Hehehe, and I thought I was the ONLY one who had that record. (someone gave it to me) Joe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:37:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: SIMPLE site & info In-Reply-To: <199404182025.QAA23823@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 18 Apr 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: [a bunch of stuff deleted] > > here is my major concern... > > the venue is not very big, it will only fit SO many people. I would like to > continue our policy of anyone-can-show-up, but I don't want the place to be > packed beyond illegal occupancy and get busted on a technicality. here's > what has been suggested to remedy that situation: > > make up a few hundred tickets and mail them to everyone that asks for one... > > only allow net ravers... > > only allow people that dress like ravers... > > only allow DJs and their friends... > > a few of the suggestions ring of the dreaded frat-party elitis, > > m that I > completely disapprove of.I believe whoever wants to go should be allowed. > > right now i support the "tickets only" idea (#1).... > > any suggestions? > > 1000 I'd reccomend doing something along the lines of the Full Moon rave-- print a limited ## of tickets to make sure way too many people don't accidentally show up. Make the net the primary info/distribution source, but don't restrict it to net-ravers (word-of-mouth beyond the net). This would keep the ## of people that actually know about the event down to an acceptable level, and will hopefully draw more 'true ravers' as net-ravers tend to be (as opposed to frat-guy types. Sorry if that came across wrong). -Sean > > P.S.all that wrote about DJ spots and synth/live spots, I have your names > and acts charted on a play/performance list. LAST CHANCE for new talent!!! > > all those that wrote about help and other stuff,i have your names and will > contact you later this week... > > i have a test to study for, gotta jump. > > "And then I blew out the candle..." > -Richie Hawtin > > *squee*squee*squaw*squaw*squee*squee*squaw*squaw... > *chirp*chirp*chirp*chirp* > -anonymous TB-303 line [translated from Rolandese] > > ;) > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 17:44:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Not eally rave-related, but funny. In-Reply-To: <199404182036.QAA23920@holmes.umd.edu> My brother sent me this, check it out: From kellyc@kenyon.edu Mon Aug 8 18:05:09 1994 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 20:14:15 EST From: CORNELIUS OF THE CONTINENTAL DIVIDE To: skelly@spectrum.cs.bucknell.edu Subject: this is funny. D00d! We have never understood why people want anchovies on their pizza. If we wanted a creature which lived in water on our pizza, we'd also put water on our pizza instead of tomato sauce. It seems that a fish would find it more appealing to be in water than in a tomato-based sauce. Actually, we prefer pieces of cow on our pizza. Cow pieces would be more appealing in a tomato-based sauce because of the close relationship between cows and tomatoes. Actually, the relationship is between cows and bushes. Tomatoes do, however, grow on bushes, so the relationship can be extended to tomatoes. For the sake of this discussion, we will contain the relationship to cows and the actual plantlife. A plant is considered to be a bush if it is smaller than a cow. If the plant is larger than a cow, it should be considered to be a tree. This size relation seems fairly straightforward at first, but it can become tricky if you are not careful. The classification of the plant is completely relative to the size of the cow. For example, plant A is a large bush because it is smaller than a large cow (cow A). If we replaced cow A with a small cow (cow B), plant A is a small tree because it is bigger than the cow. See figures 1a and 1b (below). ** plant a> ! ** plant a> ! ! ** , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV In-Reply-To: <9404172033.AA05178@phoenix.cs.uga.edu> On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Allison Thurman wrote: > box channel? what is this? id be kinda interested to see what viduals video ar tists come up for for techno music.. > allison > The Box Network (formerly called the Jukebox Network) is a network of broadcasts stations (usually on UHF) that broadcast 24 hours a day. It is set up so if you want to watch a video you can dial a 900 number and punch in a code and it plays it on your local Box Channel. Pittsburgh's Box Channel is 29 (UHF). Most cable systems however don't carty it so if Pittsburgh is typical of most cities you should try to tune it in on a TV connected to an antenna and not cable. They have from the start had a small selection of techno or house videos, though the overwhelming genre's of music on the box are either Rap, R&B and "Alternative". Joe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 18:55:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: SIMPLE site & info > only allow people that dress like ravers... I'd like to see the person that volunteered for that job :) "NO! Your jeans aren't BIG enuff, get out!" I'd have to laugh at that thought. Noj = ME = John :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 19:34:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ below is the long awaited faq sheet. this is far from complete. if you would like manage part of this faq sheet or make an addition, please e-mail me. ----------------------------------------------- !!welcome to ne-raves!! your internet connection to the world of raving :) I. Intro This is a weekly frequently asked question (FAQ) sheet. This will be a brief intro to our list and a pointer to other information you might want. if you have something to add, zip me at mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu. if you'd like to manage a section, e.g. record labels, rave lists, then zip me the section you want to manage. i'll place your e-mail address at that section of the faq sheet as the appropriate contact. congratulations on finding this list. you are part of something special--a cybertribe. we are comprised of people who were around when the list was started out of mit in may 92 and of people who joined more recently. as you may well guess, time diversity and a net conncection is only the smallest facet of our profile. we are artists, scientists, musicians and people who still have to decide who they are. the common thread here is that we love raving and we're invested in the scene in some way--promoting, producing, creating or experiencing. like a rave this list may appear chaotic but underneath there is an order loosely based on peace, love, unity and respect (PLUR). if you're new to the list, just read the traffic for awhile and get a feel for the list personality. the dynamic will strike you and you'll understand. don't worry, its not nirvanna and we're not interested in you using the right jargon. we just need to get used to each other. imagine this meeting being face to face at a party. we would both find the facade of intimacy uncomfortable unless the chemistry was just perfect--kind've difficult here since the meeting is one to many! if you've been here awhile, take a few moments for a reality check. II. Basic Sign-Off & Calendar-Only Instructions and Net Etiquette to leave this list, send mail to "listserv@umdd.umd.edu". put only the following text in the message body: "signoff neraves". you already receive the ne-raves calendar as part of your list subscription. if you want to leave the list and still receive the calendar, leave the list as described earlier and send mail to "majordomo@techno.stanford.edu". put only the following text in the message body: "subscribe ne-raves-calendar". now for a little net etiquette (netiquette). we do become polarized on issues and dialog is important for growth and understanding. needless flaming is unacceptable as well as boorish grandstanding. finally, this is a an advertisement free list. however we appreciate a good, fair offer of goods and services from time to time. if you have something to offer that is not already listed in a faq sheet, go ahead and make the post. if its out of bounds we'll let you know. too, if description is too long, just state the gist of your offering and ask people to respond directly to you for more info. for example, letting the list know that half your record collection is for sale is better than itemizing your catalog. III. ne-rave List Services the rave-o-matic (ROM) is the weekly rave calendar maintained by inhuman and published on this list. if you have flyer/event info, you may mail that information to michael. he'll add it to the ROM. melzie maintains the hook-o-matic (HOM). if you're going to an event, need a ride to an event or whatever, send a message to melzie. she'll add your info to the HOM which is published weekly on this list. the hook-o-matic address is melzie@WAM.UMD.EDU the rave-o-matic address is inhuman+@CMU.EDU IV. the Internet Guide another person will manage this. i will get that address soon. this should contain vrave, file transfer protocol (FTP) and sites, internet relay chat (IRC), wide area information service (WAIS), WEB, image transfer/viewing, gopher, etc. V. More rave or *related* lists Below are addresses for other rave related lists. typically there are two types of list. the discriminator is the level of list automation. in case one, a person-the list admin--manages the list. in case two, software manages the list with some degree of list admin support. case one: sometimes the list admin has written original code to handle subscription requests and in other cases the list admin deals directly with subscription requests. you may send your subscription request to the following addresses, but keep the verbiage to a minimum, e.g. your message text could say "subscribe . too, give the list admin some time to handle your request. subscription address (list region) -------------------------------------- ausraves-request@lsupoz.apana.org.au (australian list) dcraves-request@american.edu (washington, dc list) mw-raves-request@engin.umich.edu (mid-west list) nw-raves-request@wimsey.bc.ca (north west list) pb-cle-raves-request@telerama.pgh.pa.us (pittsburgh-cleveland list) seraves-request@american.edu (south east list) socal-raves-request@ucsd.edu (southern calif. list) v-raves-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu (v-rave list) case two: the list admin is using code which automates most list overhead. in this case, you must send all your requests to the subscription address. send a help request to the subscription address for server details (only the word "help" in the message body). if your adventurous, try the following formula in the message body: "subscribe ". you should only send info/help/subscribe requests to the list as a LAST resort. subscription address list address (list purpose or region) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- listproc@dhp.com bpm@dhp.com (dj list) listserv@orbital.demon.co.uk uk-dance@orbital.demon.co.uk (british list) majordomo@xmission.com mtnraves@xmission.com (Mountain states--CO, Utah, NM) listserv@umdd.umd.edu ne-raves@umdd.umd.edu (new england) majordomo@techno.stanford.edu sfraves@techno.stanford.edu (bay area--nothern calif. list) VI. Music techno is an evanescent scene, so to recommend a particular collaboration is foolhardy and to recommend an artist is unfair to all the others. i think the better bet is to pay attention to labels. try the following labels with the caveat that the sub-genres are as myriad as the artists, i.e. this is not complete. acid---------------->EX, diatomic, chocci's choons, peace frog, labworks, +8, accelerate ambient------------->caroline, fax, instinct, recycle or die, apollo, silent, after 6 am, recycle or die breakbeat----------->XL, suburban bass, reinforced gabberhouse--------->Drop Bass Network, Rotterdam Records, knor, bonzai hard-core----------->fax, mokum brooklyn hard-core-->Industrial Strength Records house--------------->Strictly Rhythm, inner city, peace frog, nervous, hardkiss, eight ball, junior boy's own progressive--------->stress, zoe magick, exist dance, sabres of paradise, limbo, guerrilla, soma, sorted, skunk, hard hands, see saw trance-------------->rising high, harthouse, fax, +8, direct drive, tension, instinct, ex, R&S, warp hard trance--------->eye-q, fax, harthouse, sabres of paradise, esp, basic channel VII. Music Stores Planet X Music - new brunswick, nj 908.249.0304 Vintage Vinyl - eatontown, nj 908.517.0990 611 Records - philly, pa 215.413.9100 Groove Records - brooklyn, ny 718.714.5232 Subtopia (Liquid Sky) - nyc 212.431.6718 Disc-O-Rama - nyc VinylMania - nyc VIII. Support your Tribe ARTISTS: Prototype909--->Instinct Label; taylor deupree at t808@PHANTOM.COM, jason at BPMF@DELPHI.COM, and dietrich at 1.8.7---------->to be signed; joe le sense at raver909@TELERAMA.LM.COM DJ'S: send me your info if you'd like to listed: hazard | brendan | acidy stuff | boston | mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu oz | oz | acid | boston | ol@berry.cc.brandeis.edu andy | andy | acid/breaks | florida | djagh@aol.com laura | laura | acid/hard | sf | laura@soda.berkeley.edu will-e | will | progressive | nyc | will@panix.com PROMOTORS: send me your info if you'd like to listed: haZard promotions-------->boston; 617.499.1996 mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu muse dc------------------>dc; jgoldman@tmn.com Caffeine----------------->long island; spam; sashay@phantom.com mobile groove posse------>pittsburgh; inhuman; NASA--------------------->nyc; david wolfe; woof@panix.com Outer Space Productions-->new jersey; 908.506.9592, mars, a176@lehigh.edu trance fused------------->richmond, va; derek tiffany ultraworld--------------->DC; lonnie, ultraworld@AOL.COM ZINES: skreem------------->NH; dj entox djentox@aol.com slurp!------------->PA;slurpraves@aol.com under one sky------>NYC; heather 718.714.5232 zoom--------------->PA; Jenn-bug smed8781@ACAD.CSV.KUTZTOWN.EDU SMART BARS: liquid technology-->pa; Jenn-bug smed8781@ACAD.CSV.KUTZTOWN.EDU trilobite project-->ny; peppermint patty; 518.374.7925, 518.439.2904 peppermint@delphi.com IX. Acronymns: ROAR: right of admission reserved ROTFL: rolling on the floor laughing IMHO: in my humble opinion PLUR: peace love unity respect Re: in response to /H: hugs /S: smooches Thanks for Content Editing: mars, terence, laura, dan, will-e ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 19:51:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: Gateway Finally, a first real rave in Buffalo!!!! 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SPECIAL THANKS- DAN MECHANIC, ALLIE, TL, RICH, TOM R., DEB, BILL, ANDREW GIANNI, KEITH, UUAB PAT KNIGHT, STEVE, ANDY, REGGIE PLEASE NO GLASS BOTTLES SECURITY BY CLEMENT THE GATEWAY AND BUS INFO LINE IS (716)829-4057 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 20:20:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: holy sweet amazing weekend! In-Reply-To: <9404182159.AA61040@moose.uvm.edu> please read! i hardly ever post reviews about my weekends in montreal but i think it is time i started. i know most aren't very familiar with the scene there...i am so excited about the quality of events there that i can't resist but tell you about my wonderful experience! it is a long post but i think you may find it interesting! I have just returned from the most amazing weekend! since vermont has such a small scene i travel to montreal almost every weekend for parties. The scene in montreal is the friendliest and most fun i have ever experienced...amazing vibe! It is like one big happy family..everyone basically knows each other..and they all love to meet newcomers. i arrived in montreal at about 6:00 pm and helped set up for "the source" scheduled to spin were krista, arnaud, andrew, dare, david cooper, tiga, ROBERT DE LA GAUTHIER, mino mono, pedro, twin peetz, gnat, and dj ba. The party was held at an old church..an excellent space...but got busted at around 3:00 am.. so most of the people went to Euro deli for pizza. ( Euro deli is sometimes considered rave head quarters... the pizza is soo good and inexpensive) outside they blasted amazing sound out of someone's car and had a dance party in the middle of st. laurant street...one of the busiest in montreal! after a while the police came and broke it up but montreal proved that the police couldn't interfere with it's vibe...the party moved to the top of MOUNT ROYAL..and continued until sunrise! i wish i had been there but eating was the last thing on my mind at 3:00 in the morning afterall i had just stopped peaking (wink)..i had no idea so many people would show up and that they would make a party. there were a couple of small after parties including a private party at Robert de la Gauthier's apartment. Robert is from montreal but moved to Germany and is one of the most loved dj's there..he is back in montreal for a few days to get the rest of his belongings so he was scheduled to spin all weekend long. so..we went to robert's apartment. there were only 12 of us. Andrew(interchill uk) and sebastian spun while robert was setting things up. Robert couldn't find some of his records...so he had to hunt through about 20 boxes full of records in the hopes that he had not lost them..but no luck. He spun without them but was a bit sad becuase 2 of them were his favorites. one he played at angels on thursday night and accrding to a friend of mine "brought the whole dance floor to orgasm) But WOW! the music was he did spin was so amazing! I only reconginized a few songs as almost all of his music is from Europe..it was so nice to hear new stuff for a change! Saturday was NEXSUS. We went to robert's first to chill for a bit and then made our way to the party. on the way we stopped at angel's to see if his missing records were there...and yes! he found them. thank god! There has been a lot of hype about the promoters of nexsis becuase they are part of the "RALIENS" cult...but they threw one hell of a party! it was in an old boat factory which they purchased for this once a month event. the best space i have seen in montreal! 3 rooms...one huge and two good sized. in the main room there were dancing platforms and a stage which they had a live performance on. very high ceiling (atleast 3 stories high) so the dj was elevated from the crowd so everyone could see each other. lots of space to sit. lights going every where in every which direction...and the best sound i have heard in a while! In one of the smaller rooms 3 huge screens with animation, and again the dj elevated. through out the party there were mini performances with the music by acrobats, fire eaters, dancers..you name it! robert spun twice back to back but in two different rooms...during his first set in the big room there were maybe 10 people in each of the other rooms..the dance hall was packed and everyone was dancing! i have never felt such amazing vibe! i danced straight through the night...EXSTACY..bursted out of every sweating pour of my body! The 2nd set he played much harder and it was so nice! i usually don't like hard mucic at all but it was so good! i couldn't stop dancing..and (according to robert) i didn't just dance..i worked it! after the party we went to a small afterparty at a friend of mine's apartment...All of my closest friends were there..most of which had not gone to nexsus (becuase of the hype) it was so great to see them! robert spun again! this guy could spin until you forced him to stop he loves it so much! then...we went back to robert's apartment and got an hour and a half of rest...and off we go...to royal! royal is a club in montreal that has techno on sunday afternoon/night. we arrived a little late...robert was supposed to start at 12 noon but we didn't arrive until 12:45. woops! PEETZ, (twin peetz) was spinning such nice chill that we had trouble leaving the couch, not to mention the great buds. winkwink. I didn't expect to see so many people at royal because of the busy weekend but it was pretty full! Everyone from the afterhours came and many of the people from nexsus. The dance floor was full the whole time and still there were many people chilled out at the bar..and in the back on the couches. robert again had an amazing set...he spun for 5 hours! everyone was tired from partying all weekend but the music was too good not to dance! somehow we managed to make it through the whole set with little rest. Robert even was dancing the whole time he was spinning..such a fun dj to watch! i think i sat down for about five minutes..long enough for a quick smoke..wink wink... and then hopped right back on the dance floor. when robert was done we went back to his place and got pizza. chilled for a bit and then, sadly, i had to return to burlington..classes and all this morning. When i arrived in montreal i had no idea that i would be spending most of the weekend with Robert...such a nice surprise! I have never heard such fresh music. he spins his house music a little faster than most dj's and the records he has are so uplifting you can't help but get off your feet and boogy! His harder music had such a good beat..with the best samples mixed in...sooo trippy! it wasn't like hard...but it was! SO GOOD if ever you get a chance to hear robert spin...please do! holy sweet amazing! thanks to everyone who made this weekend to great...i love you all! see you next weekend at Sasha! <<<>>> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 19:35:44 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: B-Day Boyeee! Hello brothers and sisters, Today is my birthday. I am the double dos i.e. 22. Yippee. Graduation is around the corner for us as well as the end of another school year for others. Enjoy finals and this nice spring weather we're having. Hope to see everyone at Timewarp on the 29 and A Rave Called Scott on the 7. my boy diesel(boyeee) is gonna be there spinning the phat breax. In the words of those who like to encourage, Fuck it up!!! I am also starting a Deep House/Acid Jazz night at the Freight Yard called Deeper. This is my pet project(unlike Fathom on Fridays which is a combination of the owner and Ikon). Anyone who spins this type of music send me a tape and I can truly work you in on any Saturday. Also, anyone who has any adresses of promoters, etc. for gigs I could use an update on my database. Seems with free time in three weeks I could use some out of town gigs. Finally, Timewarp 4(the last in the series) is July 29. Bookings are in the process now. Anyone who has the names of good House DJ's they recommend get in touch. The hardcore/breakbeat room is being booked by Ikon. Anyone who wants to get in touch call (610)433-0503 ask for Ikon or (610)758-9969 and ask for me. If you sent a tape in the past you don't have to send another one but you have to let us know you are interested, prices, tolls and gas, etc. Later alligators. peace, geoffEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee GSC1@Lehigh.Edu "I love dee darkness more dan dee light master" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 21:39:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Philly Event (fwd) Just got this in my private box, think it was meant for the list. Dan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 17 Apr 94 17:48:19 EDT From:kennyged@aol.com To: anarchy@eng.umd.edu Subject: Philly Event Toothpaste Productions presents Floor-Ride Friday, May 13th. DJ's King Britt - Remic - Lee $5 for girls $7 all others 624 South Fourth St.(a half block off South St.) in Philly Call 1-215-972-7023 for more info! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 22:37:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Someone wrote me about the urb... sorry for this personal letter over the net, but someone wrote me about a letter i wrote in the URB(?) and all and before i could get the address down and all my mailer crashed with all my mail in it. whoever it was could you send me a "Hi" again? thanks and so i dont lose it please send it to dz5401a@american.edu doug ) ( ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 22:39:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "flu'id (floo'-)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "flu'id (floo'-)" Subject: Re: Philly Event (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199404190140.VAA29676@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, danFREELove wrote: > $5 for girls $7 all others Is that a little strange or is it just me? _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu :65 FD F9 9F F2 23 F8 CF: \) flu'id (floo'-) :80 9C 11 AA 9F 92 0D 27: ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 23:20:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Sklar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Sklar Subject: Re: Philly Event (fwd) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Apr 94 22:39:28 EDT." <9404190239.AA21984@minerva.cis.yale.edu> On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, danFREELove wrote: > $5 for girls $7 all others fluid> Is that a little strange or is it just me? Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Hmmm...Unity...Hmmm... What if it said $5 for puerto-ricans $7 all others ? -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 23:51:00 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: BOOM...secure space? In-Reply-To: <199404162019.QAA11352@holmes.umd.edu>; from "David A. Wolfe" at Apr 16, 94 4:19 pm booooooooooom -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 23:58:57 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: BOOM '94 - The aftermath In-Reply-To: <199404181329.JAA19137@holmes.umd.edu>; from "David A. Wolfe" at Apr 18, 94 9:29 am hi y'all im part of the neuronautic institute- we did the trippy video at boom- what a crazy thang it was- im sorry about the image quality - quite frankly it sucked, due to the fact that we couldnt use the screen and had to resort to using bedsheets instead- but hey with us losing the original space some 48 hours before showtime it went off pretty well, all things considered thanks again to scotto, and woff ond all those who helped make ot possible- and to all of u who saw us at outlaw, or any of teh otehr things weve done, and came up to us at boom and told us you had seen and enjoyed our work before and hope to again- thank you- the best review we ever got- "the trippin kids were buggin" peaceout -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 01:59:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Philly Event (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199404190320.XAA01168@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, David Sklar wrote: > > $5 for girls $7 all others > > fluid> Is that a little strange or is it just me? > > Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Hmmm...Unity...Hmmm... > What if it said > > $5 for puerto-ricans $7 all others ? ain't nothing strange about having a different price for women. (or "girls" as the eflyer said). i repetedly have to walk home and change out of my sneakers just cause some doorman has been instructed not to allow any men in with sneakers on, but women can wear them. (of course if i was cool and knew the doormen this wouldn't be a problem, but i'm little people still) the eflyer thing was in a club right? so clubs have weird ways to get more people to come to their club, and one of them is trying to get more women to come, so that more men will come... the women are the bait for the men, the men will pay higher for more women :) at yale this weekend, i heard some guy ask his friend, "are there hot chicks in there?" referring to the party. its just business..its not as if they are trying to discourage anyone from doing anything. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 03:24:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Onionz For those wondering about Onionz, Bob Baxter told me he spun like 10 minutes after we left at the afterparty to motion at Caffeine on Long Island. It's been months since I last heard him and I can't believe I missed him by just a few mintues, especially considering I had been waiting all night to hear him. Sigh... never assume a DJ isn't going to show up. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 03:24:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: raving as lifestyle, etc. 1000 said: >raving has been around snce the mid 1960s, it's doing nothing but >getting stronger and better. It's been around since the dawn of man. Shamans and tribal cultures regard dancing as highly spiritual. Take a look at Voodoo for example, people dance in a frenzy until they go into a trance and get possessed by gods. I believe dancing is as essential as sleep, food and water. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 03:53:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Fiend <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: More SIMPLE info.... yo, ill be there.. i'll help ya out, cleaning or some shit, if i can take a nap there afterwards :) the fiend ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 08:53:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Michael Francois (SHA)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Michael Francois (SHA)" Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV In-Reply-To: <199404182145.RAA24816@holmes.umd.edu> >On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Allison Thurman wrote: > >> box channel? what is this? id be kinda interested to see what viduals video ar >tists come up for for techno music.. >> allison >> >The Box Network (formerly called the Jukebox Network) is a network of >broadcasts stations (usually on UHF) that broadcast 24 hours a day. It is >set up so if you want to watch a video you can dial a 900 number and >punch in a code and it plays it on your local Box Channel. Pittsburgh's >Box Channel is 29 (UHF). Most cable systems however don't carty it so if >Pittsburgh is typical of most cities you should try to tune it in on a TV >connected to an antenna and not cable. They have from the start had a >small selection of techno or house videos, though the overwhelming >genre's of music on the box are either Rap, R&B and "Alternative". > Joe > The BOX Channell is on most Baltimore/Washington Area cable networks, and is included in the plus service. It does really tend towards the Snoop Poopy Dogg videos and the like, though, yo ... Myg ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:14:12 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sandra L Van Aken Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sandra L Van Aken Subject: Re: "Info" In-Reply-To: <199404182123.RAA24435@holmes.umd.edu> hey my friends carrie and travis know you...i think they met you at an event not too long ago.. just thought i would say hi love sandy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:31:52 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy_Adler.LOTUS@CRD.LOTUS.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: raving as lifestyle, etc. Actually the third movement of Bach's third Brandenberg is in 12/4. Can any explain to me why the assorted genres of dance music shun unusual meters? aa ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:25:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ed Horch Subject: Re: "Info" In-Reply-To: <199404182123.RAA24435@holmes.umd.edu> from "CLIFTODA@LANMAIL.SHU.EDU" at Apr 18, 94 05:25:27 pm > I need information on being part of the system for ne-raves. Hi Dan You can get on ne-raves by sending mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu with "subscribe ne-raves" (without the quotes) as the body of the message. You should get a confirmation back quickly from the list server. Is that really Cliff's email account? -Ed SLiP "into something more comfortable" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:19:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalie J Olkwitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalie J Olkwitz Subject: Re: further In-Reply-To: <199404191427.KAA04730@holmes.umd.edu> from "Ed Horch" at Apr 19, 94 10:25:37 am for steve and any others questioning info about further (which is right in my backyard practically) i thought i'd post the info. numbers for various cities/states :) here goes- in no particular order: Lexington 606.281.4193 Boston 617.541.9258 St.Louis 314.995.9299 Cleveland 219.238.1451 Chicago 708.216.9798 Philly 215.233.9777 Madison 608.283.3202 Connecticut 203.627.5686 No.Illinois 815.469.8917 #104 Atlanta 404.250.8230 Iowa 319.757.5323 New Jersey 908.724.9711 Louisville 502.569.1969 Long Island 516.547.7118 Indianapolis 317.895.4546 Cincinatti 513.648.9647 Detroit 313.730.2202 New York 212.696.8938 Pittsburgh 412.734.8432 Nashville 615.780.3730 Dayton 513.496.1071 INTERNET_ mw-raves@csd4.csd.uwm.edu If you have any other questions feel free to drop me a line. Hope to see you there :) Love and smoochies Natali ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 11:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Steve Barnes (Buggs)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Steve Barnes (Buggs)" Subject: Natalie ------------------- If you can't see what I can see, your *BLIND* baby, Blind to the fact. &*((&^%$#$%^&nbffgk8( **#?"}{**^%%^&^*&&*())__)*^^%^ $%^%*LEGALIZE*IT*TODAY*&(%^#^*%&&$%^ @+[#$$%%^&&%$##@#@*GET*HIGH*TONIGHT*&&#\WW $^#$&%^*^%*(&*()_+_**ARE*YOU*SURE*#^&*%$$$%^&# \ \ `/,(&`|v]-DvLcfZ/eV/*I'LL*BE*FINE*Z.`/d!Z8m)%#|] \ \ \ % //,c\(2(X/NYNY8]ZZ/*IN*THE*MORNING?*)-|(][%4.9 \ \ \ )%$)G8\NM*I*HATE*RPI%%%%%@WZKYK*ZG5KMi,&^$[NZGM[ \ ----------=)b%SMOKE!M[!'\cAND*BE%%|MERRY!*-c\))\{^%%}Z?|, "Steve Barnes (Buggs)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Steve Barnes (Buggs)" Subject: woosta! Hey, whassup. I was just wondering what if anything is going on in the woosta underground soon. I mean is there anything happening before May 13. Or actually anyhting in that area cause all these others are just too much of a hike for me :) I love the rAvEs but my car can't really handle the distanes. So if there is anything goin on let me know, and if not well let's get something goin on!!! Buggs ------------------- If you can't see what I can see, your *BLIND* baby, Blind to the fact. &*((&^%$#$%^&nbffgk8( **#?"}{**^%%^&^*&&*())__)*^^%^ $%^%*LEGALIZE*IT*TODAY*&(%^#^*%&&$%^ @+[#$$%%^&&%$##@#@*GET*HIGH*TONIGHT*&&#\WW $^#$&%^*^%*(&*()_+_**ARE*YOU*SURE*#^&*%$$$%^&# \ \ `/,(&`|v]-DvLcfZ/eV/*I'LL*BE*FINE*Z.`/d!Z8m)%#|] \ \ \ % //,c\(2(X/NYNY8]ZZ/*IN*THE*MORNING?*)-|(][%4.9 \ \ \ )%$)G8\NM*I*HATE*RPI%%%%%@WZKYK*ZG5KMi,&^$[NZGM[ \ ----------=)b%SMOKE!M[!'\cAND*BE%%|MERRY!*-c\))\{^%%}Z?|, "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: state college pa ====================================================================== FRIDAY, APRIL 29TH State College, PA (814).237.4528 projekt konfusion presents... :):):):):):):):):):):):):) :) MOTAH - BOOTY :) :):):):):):):):):):):):):) all night butt-shakin' fun wumpin' pumpin' bumpin' grooves spun by: dj panik ---> breakbeat dj monte' ---> moontribe chill dj mars ---> trance dj dust ---> moontribe speed plus... smart bar provided by Liquid Technology, lights, lasers, smoke and a womb-like environment moooovement is takin' place in Uncle Chen's basement (111 Sowers St., State College, PA) $5 @ the door, $4 with an invitation, $2 on the list (netravers call or E to be on the list) doors open @ 10 and will stay open. April 29, wa-ni-ni-fo info: nodog@sabine.psu.edu (814.237.4528) ---> andy kky100@psuvm.psu.edu (814.867.7718) ---> anthony crash space is available and vendors are welcome. expectations are to fill the 300 person limit on the place ___________________________________________________________ Hope to see some net ravers here :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:12:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: SIMPLE facts...and a cause for alarm!!! this is going great... i have received letters from many people and here's what the policy is... We will print up a few hundred flyers... you will mail us a note asking for 1-4 tickets, and 29 cents for return postage (or a stamp)... any better ideas? e-mail me and we'll figure it out :) now... a cause for alarm! this summer i MIGHT be working for FFRR records... it all hangs on threads as thin as a glassfibre. if I am at FFRR,then I obviously won't be able to promote SIMPLE... it will be postponed until October or November. it will still be free, but it will be delayed by a few months:( while I am at FFRR, i will have net access 100%, so I will be in on the scene.... you'll see me at all the clubs on a regular basis, and at all the big parties another cause for alarm...(sorta) the well-planned and well-anticipated songs that my friends and I have come into pre-fruitition... "Psychedelic Woodchuck" (what we think will be the most repulsive acid attack since Return of the Living Acid's "Big Dipper, and Dr.Fernando's "Stomach Powder") "Sisserou" (a delightful tribal song with mass quantities of chirping and droning synths) the planned jam-dates are this summer,and the first live performance was slated for midnight at SIMPLE... i hope that i get to work for FFRR,it is something i have been looking forward to for a very long time... i also hope that i don't have to cancel SIMPLE, for it is another thing that I have been looking forward to... all are invited... it's FREE, why not!?! "Atomic activity on the moon...." -anonymous sample "The lights go on... the lights go off..." -Lil' Louis "The Blackout" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 16:11:24 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Hmmmmmmmmmm....." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hmmmmmmmmmm....." Subject: Re: Philly Event (fwd) In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 18 Apr 1994 22:39:28 -0400 > $5 for girls $7 all others >> Is that a little strange or is it just me? i was thinking the same thing.......kind of offensive. andrea========~ilithien~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 15:37:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Natalie J Olkwitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Natalie J Olkwitz Subject: Re: Natalie In-Reply-To: <199404191554.LAA06147@holmes.umd.edu> from "Steve Barnes" at Apr 19, 94 11:53:46 am excuse me for sounding confuzzed but WHAT?? natali ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:13:45 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: FMR update ok, after too many days and weeks of hard work, i must post now about an emergency which affects the fmr. simply put the owner of the land we confirmed has gone to missouri to be with her dying father. she weill not grant permission for us to use her land in her absence, and she will not return untill after the full moon. this obviously put us in a predicament, so i went to upstate this last weekend, grabbed the mission crew, and went scambling to confirm the back up spaces we had. well, one by one they fell through like sand in our figners... and to top this off, from what i understand (im in boston now) upstate new york is expecting not so pleasant weather for raving out of doors this weekend. ok, so where we stand is this: we have access to a fine indoor space that we have used before. we can have unlimited attendance here...YAY! there is a slick dance floor, huge chill out area (we are below a bowling alley...go chill upstairs..even bowl if you want.) there is tons of dry space, clean bathrooms, re-entry=no problem... its a good spot simply put. i need feedback on this though....in order to do this, we must have a minimum of 200 people in attendance at 4 or 5$ per person. it will start at 10pm, and it will end according to how many people are there. if we get 400 then we can pay to stay open later........until 8, mebbe 10....who knows...its negotiable. thing is, i need to get feedback from ANYONE and EVERYONE who has planned on coming to this. the dj's we have confirmed are: dieselBoy Sprockett Fresh Blend Space Mars Donato Will-E Cmellow live tribal trumset by StingRay ok, Liquid Tech agreed to do smart bar, and the trilobite project will be "working the door" ummm...we have a quite adequate sound system, and very nice lighing.... we have all the credentials and the like, the only thing is that it will not be out of doors....we will have an opportunity to turn this into something beautiful though, if we all work together to make an insane vibe. anyway, please respond with any thoughts or comments to: kumquat@acs.bu.edu and again, thanks for your time and faith. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 17:58:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: FMR update Any more openings for DJs???? >B) Speed Demon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:33:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: for jake of melon design only i did not have your email address....sorry i had to post to the net. would you please mail me at kumquat@acs.bu.edu. there is a potential event happenning on may 21st, and we would be interested in having your visual support. thanks, sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:16:19 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV In-Reply-To: <9404191253.AA01953@umsa.umd.edu> On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Michael Francois wrote: > >On Sun, 17 Apr 1994, Allison Thurman wrote: > > > >> box channel? what is this? id be kinda interested to see what viduals video > ar > >tists come up for for techno music.. > >> allison > >> > >The Box Network (formerly called the Jukebox Network) is a network of > >broadcasts stations (usually on UHF) that broadcast 24 hours a day. It is > >set up so if you want to watch a video you can dial a 900 number and > >punch in a code and it plays it on your local Box Channel. Pittsburgh's > >Box Channel is 29 (UHF). Most cable systems however don't carty it so if > >Pittsburgh is typical of most cities you should try to tune it in on a TV > >connected to an antenna and not cable. They have from the start had a > >small selection of techno or house videos, though the overwhelming > >genre's of music on the box are either Rap, R&B and "Alternative". > > Joe > > > The BOX Channell is on most Baltimore/Washington Area cable networks, and is > included in the plus service. It does really tend towards the Snoop Poopy > Dogg videos and the like, though, yo ... > > Myg > Yeah here to. (everyone loves Snoop Doggy Dog). Currently in the selection are videos by Awesome 3 and Digital Oragasm as far as techno is concerned. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:19:12 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Church of Extacy on MTV In-Reply-To: <199404191257.IAA03413@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, Michael Francois (SHA) wrote: > The BOX Channell is on most Baltimore/Washington Area cable networks, and is > included in the plus service. It does really tend towards the Snoop Poopy > Dogg videos and the like, though, yo ... > > Myg True, its like that here too. Currently however there are two techno videos up for selection: Awesome 3's Don't Go and Digital Orgasm's Time to Believe. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:27:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: rave the dc mall this is something i picked off the uk-dance listserv...it seemed like i t tm might have some useful infor on for setting up the "sound system" for the rave on the the dc mall using the "bring yer box" startagratagy.... anywayz.....here it is.... > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 18 Apr 1994 11:47:04 GMT > From: steveh@tqmcomms.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch) > Subject: Re: UK-DANCE digest 410 > > In article , > Greg Eden wrote: > >Bloody good question. What do you do to 'retune' a system? Why does it go > >'off' any way? Surely everything is solid state; and the room itself > >doesn't move. Although I suppose you could use a "digital tuners drift" > >arguement. And of course most DJs fiddle with EQs, but these can surely be > >fiddled back. > > People fiddling must be one of the problems. Back when I was involved > in pirate radio one of the most important things the engineers would do > when getting a station on air was to open up the new mixer and take out > all the EQ circuitry. Any signal processing gear then went into a > sealed unit which no-one but them could get their greasy paws on. If > they didn't do this the station would go from high quality sound to > boomy mud within about 10 seconds of the first DJ arriving. > > ------------------------------ hope that helps... aaron..... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:45:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@IUP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: what a suprise! hello... the strangest thing happened to me this weekend... a friend of mine invited me to see the phantom of the opera with him in toronto. I accepted his offer, but keeping in mind this would be my first long trip with the destination not being a rave. i mean i could handle it, life dosnt revolve around raving... (i guess) So friday night, we saw the phantom, increadable!!! i was in tears it was so beautiful. saturday we headed to the huge *underground* mall... as we approached the exclators, a strange, almost raver looking boy abroached us..."wheres it at?" he asked, "I have my ticket, but i dont know where it is.." we then told him we were from pittsburgh and we knew nothing about it. he gave us directions to a record store, where we could maybe get a ticket or some information. so we took a cab to XXtatic, a totally raved out store in the heart of toronto. As soon as i walked in, i saw good old Jsquared!! i was totally amazed!! we talked to the guy and found out that SASHA!! was spinning, holy shit! i couldnt believe it! at this time everything about this rave seemed like a dream. after finding out how far away it was, i thought it was a night mare, but luckily, Jsquares friend.. Earnie was a doll and offered to drive us to the party. we had so much time to waste, so, we hung out at some vegaterian restarant till about 8.. at 8 we went to the sight, which was awsome... huge... every thing about the place was wonderful!! we helped JJ set up his stuff and just hung out...The smart bar guys were super nice! :) i finally found out most of the line up for the night... SASHA... Dmitry... Soulslinger...Keoki...Jason JinXX and a few others, i never saw a flyer for this, so, im really not sure who all spun...Sasha drove me nuts.. he is super phat! i cant wait to hear him again!! :) joe and i danced all night... although it was to crazy to be at the front. There were at LEAST 1000 kids there. people were clappin and cheering it was neet, i havent seen a croud go that nuts over a dj in a while. the vibe w as was good, it seemed like the kids up there werent to good at taking there drugs... i mean, i watched some dude totally freak out because he ate like an ounce of shrooms and like 3 hits of E... and alot of kids were getting sick on the E... most of them were doing it for the first time. everyone i met up there was super cool to us, they were as amased as we were that we came all the way up there to see the phantom and ran in to this super phat rave! around 8 JJ and friends drove us back to our hotel and we all crashed for a while, it was soo cool to acually get to hang out with JJ... i only talked to him one time, and it was super quickly at momentum.... on the way home, we stoped at Niagra falls.. wow!! they were amazing. (i was still tripin a bit) :) sorry this is so long, but, i think it was super duper cool that i met one of my "computer friends" all the way out in toronto! and we had such a blast! --it pay to be on the net!! :) hugs to all the Toronto ravers..(we couldnt find any toronto-net raves) P.L.U.R. michelle look out.. ya never know where ya might find a rave! :) dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE...dAncE.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 20:50:32 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: FMR update In-Reply-To: <9404200025.AA156192@acs.bu.edu>; from "daemon" at Apr 19, 94 5:58 pm it is possible, but not definate: tell me, what do you spin? sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:02:08 -0400 Reply-To: Sandra L Van Aken Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sandra L Van Aken Subject: Re: SIMPLE facts...and a cause for alarm!!! In-Reply-To: <199404191912.PAA08064@holmes.umd.edu> hey sorry to sound stupid but i haven't been paying alot of attention to the posts lately becausei have been really busy...but could you tell me about SIMPLE.... sounds cool and i am sure ppl would wnat to go at least that depends on how far but if you could let me know i would deeply appreciate it love and **hugs** sandy goodvibe sandi@bach.udel.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:06:40 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: raving as lifestyle, etc. Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 19-APR-94 21:52 >From: "" >Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 10:31:52 EDT >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >Actually the third movement of Bach's third Brandenberg is in 12/4. >Can any explain to me why the assorted genres of dance music shun >unusual meters? > >aa >--- Thats an easy one... In order for the progression in the mixed songs to be logical..and to sound like they are from the smae song and not two different ones, the measure need to be the same length and the changes in the songs need to be at approxamatley the same spots.ie...song change every 16 beats.... the speeds need to be identical as well, and that is the job of the DJ.to beat match. I think that might explain it...as I am not the super DJ type. I may not be the best one to describe it john g. peace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:30:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 4/19/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== I hope everyone makes it to Sprockett's Full Moon Rave this weekend! FMR's are very magical things and the east coast doesn't see enough of them. Enjoy yourself, whatever you do. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 04/23/94 - FULL MOON RAVE - Upstate New York - (???) ??? - ???? 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/29/94 - MOTAH-BOOTY - State College, PA - (814) 237 - 4528 04/29/94 - HANNAH LEE @ - Long Island, NY - (???) ??? - ???? 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 2.3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT IV - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 04/30/94 - ATLANTIS II - Providence, RI - (401) 621 - 7563 04/30/94 - TABOO ACID 2 - New York City - (718) 599 - 4839 04/30/94 - SOUL - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 242 - 4230 05/07/94 - PHOENIX - New York City - (718) 390 - 8816 05/07/94 - MANTRAS - Princeton, NJ - (609) 258 - 7249 05/07/94 - A RAVE CALLED SCOTT - New Jersey - (215) 292 - 4666 05/13/94 - NO NAME - New Brunswick, NJ - (908) 287 - 8795 05/20/94 - THE AWAKENING - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 502 - 0660 05/21/94 - MYSTERY MACHINE - Allentown, PA - (???) ??? - ???? 05/27/94 - CARPE DIEM - Rhode Island - (401) 455 - 2104 05/28/94 - MAGIC - New York City - (212) 592 - 3687 06/04/94 - GALAXY 2000 - Brooklyn, NY - (212) 631 - 1065 06/11/94 - SYNOVIAL FLUID - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 741 - 1573 06/11/94 - SPUTNIK IV - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 07/02/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 07/23/94 - PLANET EARTH - New York City - (516) 547 - 6129 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 UPSTATE NEW YORK (???) ??? - ???? FULL MOON RAVE Gearhead & The Mission Crew Present the first in this summer's series of FULL MOON RAVES. in a location w/in one hour of albany, NY--a spot central to the entire north east, we bring you a free, Private Party underneath the stars. The space is amazing...far from society, and quite far from trouble. Surrounded on three sides by woods, and the fourth by open field for miles, and above by starry, clear skies w/o city light interference, this site is spiritual and perfect for this event. Here's how it works: limited attendance of 180. In order to gain a spot, you must get a pass from one of the designated promoters. This is not exclusively a Net event, though there will be a great net influence. All difinitive information that is not covered in this or subsequent posts will be available through the promoters by word of mouth only. The space is secure, we have the sound system (10,000watts) and dj's are tba. Most likely it will go for 12 hours: 10pm until 10am. There will be a huge bonfire, and possibly a chill out 12ft. high tee pee. Camping may be allowed, although unconfirmed at this point in time. Directions will be released 24hrs in advance to the promoters. There will be a 5$ charge per car & 15$ per van parking fee.....to cover our expenses. The passes should be available by Rites of Spring (albany, March 25th) from me personally, and the following week from the listed promoters. here are the net-affiliated promoters: PA: Jenn-Bug-smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu MA: Sprockett -kumquat@acs.bu.edu MA: Jetta vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu MA (west) Donato - donato@world.std.com RI: Speed Racer -jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu NY (west) Darshan - djesrani@center.colgate.edu NY (north) Cat - yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu NY (south) FiSH - squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb others will be added. At this point in time, PLEASE do NOT mail the above promoters in regards to obtaining passes. I have posted their names and addresses only as a means to provide general information, nothing more. Most questions will be answered by the next FMR post....have patience until then. Dj's interested in spinning... there are a FEW spots remaining. if you wish to be considered, you MUST send a tape. The only exception is if i have heard you spin before. send the tape (even if its only one side) to: Sprockett, FMR demo, 140 Bay State Road, Box 1248, Boston, MA 02215 tapes should be in my hands no later than April 2nd. If you wish to give it to me personally, i will be at Rites of Spring, Red, and Equilibrium. thank you for your time, I hope you will decide to join us. there is always something special about a FMR. Lets make this one amazing. -sprockett _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN KC & the Sunrise Gang together with Pandemonium bring you... ****10**** Saturday, April 23rd Celebrating two years and ten major events Portland Maine 9pm until dawn and then some! Under the bright beautiful moon of spring KC & Pandemonium invite you to our tenth endless night of PURE bliss, hands reaching SKY HIGH, DEEP grooves, and GRINning ravers. Join our CRUSADE for the blinding truth and a phat vibe! Declare your INDEPENDANCE, don't cry MAYDAY and journey with us TOO DEEP into the future, on our mission to make the planet GRIN AGAIN! (207) 773-6979 Look for our mid-winter micro-raves coming soon! _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 STATE COLLEGE, PA (814) 237 - 4528 MOTAH-BOOTY projekt konfusion presents... :):):):):):):):):):):):):) :) MOTAH - BOOTY :) :):):):):):):):):):):):):) all night butt-shakin' fun wumpin' pumpin' bumpin' grooves spun by: dj panik ---> breakbeat dj monte' ---> moontribe chill dj mars ---> trance dj dust ---> moontribe speed plus... smart bar provided by Liquid Technology, lights, lasers, smoke and a womb-like environment moooovement is takin' place in Uncle Chen's basement (111 Sowers St., State College, PA) $5 @ the door, $4 with an invitation, $2 on the list (netravers call or E to be on the list) doors open @ 10 and will stay open. April 29, wa-ni-ni-fo info: nodog@sabine.psu.edu (814.237.4528) ---> andy kky100@psuvm.psu.edu (814.867.7718) ---> anthony crash space is available and vendors are welcome. expectations are to fill the 300 person limit on the place _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 LONG ISLAND, NY (???) ??? - ???? HANNAH LEE @ Caffeine, in association with the Long Island Underground, present HANNAH LEE A place where dreams come true. Friday, April 29th, 1994 Featuring D.J.s: Frankie Bones * Keoki * 333 * Joeski * Omar * Ryde * Dave Trance * DNA * Sameer * and special guests _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 552 - 8940 STEAL IT! Special K Prductions presents STEAL IT! In Philadelphia, PA For info call 215-552-8940 $10 DJ's to include: Joeski King Britt Boy Blake Nigel Richards O'keef NoRyan Karl K Kaos plus other dj's presently being confirmed (we wouldn't want to promise any dj's before they are confirmed!!) [Once again this will be a party presented by respectable members of the Philly underground. The line-up at KICK IT! was about as diverse as you could possibly imagine, with every genre represented and represented well at that ( including several breaks dj's!). And STEAL IT! will be more of the same sonic diversity that you and many others have asked for. So I encourage you to put your money where your mouth is and support a party that will deliver you great sounds, no matter what your flavor is!! The line-up is being expanded to include several more out of towners and will be posted again when finalized. This is yet another party that shows you can have quality sound, space, lighting, dj's and vibe without having to charge people $17-20 or so. I hope to see you all there, thanks for supporting KICK IT! so well, we all had fun! -andy] _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 2 + 3 @ GSC1@Lehigh.Edu [rescheduled and combined with Timewarp 2] 9 p.m. - 6 a.m. (After-party to follow sponsored by LV Bass Junkies-Location T.B.A.) Come join us as we become "Lost in Cyberspace." All roads lead to the Lehigh Valley. ZONE 1: "MARS" ADAM X JIMMY CRASH JAMES CHRISTIAN DIESELBOY AND GEOFFE two-hour breakbeat in yer face jam w/ MC MIKE B IKON ZONE 2: "VENUS" WINK DB SCOTT RICHMOND GOODWILL MIKO ZONE 3: "NEPTUNE" URSOL LAZLO CONSPIRACY 3 giant rooms all in a one-hundred year old remodeled warehouse. 20-Foot Video Projections by HIGH RISE GROUP, Lazers by PAWN, I-Lighting; Concessions by Loop, Direct From Mars, Fusion. Smart Bar by DNA. Giveaways by Moonshine,Instinct, Nova Mute and more. Sound by Decibel Productions. Door by "Hoopla Squad." Security tight but nice. Doors open 8:30 p.m. Tickets available at door only night of the event. INFO./DIRECTIONS: THE FREIGHT YARD "FATHOM" 24-HOUR INFO. LINE: (610)433-0503 geoffe (610)758-9969 FLYERS by A&A in your area soon. Interested in Promo and want to get in on the V.I.P. list? Send e-mail to GSC1@Lehigh.Edu by April 1. DIRECTIONS: Take Routes I-78, 309, 33, Pa. Turnpike to Route 22. Exit at Fullerton Ave. Head South. Make a right turn(on to Tilghman St.) where you can't go straight anymore due to street turning one-way. At second light make a right.(Linden St.) At Antique Market sign make a left. Make a right turn in between the two warehouses(Court St.) and unite. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT IV Modern Music presents...... S P I R I T U A L M O V E M E N T I V ! DJs: When, you ask... Lenny Dee April 30! Onionz How much, you might ask as well... Dave Trance $15! Sameer Wink Greg Sargent Who "Cloudwatch" DJs: Bobble Love Groove Wash smartbar visuals by: Psilocybin 100% legal, no drugs, alcohol, guns, bad vibes, etc... custom backdrop and staging design THIS EVENT WILL SELL OUT! [the last one did indeed sell out] tickets will be available starting april 1st at the following locations: MODERN MUSIC baltimore 410-523-1882 $15 MUSIC NOW washington 202-638-1213 611 RECORDS philadelphia 215-413-9100 to arrange a bus trip or vending contact modern music no tickets will be sold at the door! Rumor has it this will be the last... _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 PROVIDENCE, RI (401) 621 - 7563 ATLANTIS II Submerge again A T L A N T I S An Oracle Production _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 NEW YORK CITY (718) 599 - 4839 TABOO ACID 2 On Saturday April 30th in NYC T A B O O A C I D 2 -an underground acid music party- DJ's: Jimmy Crash Denard Jo Jo Odie Scope Carlos Soulslinger Mars [ Yeah, this is me, I'm opening from 10pm til 11:30pm followed by Jimmy ] Only 375 tickets will be sold and MUST be purchased in advance at Liquid Sky, 241 Lafayette St., NYC Cost: $7 No Guest list or comps at door For Location, call (718)599-4839 on day of event _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 242 - 4230 SOUL Atlas Promotions Presents: SOUL in its finest form Saturday, April 30th, Philadelphia 100% legal, underground location * info 215.242.4230 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 NEW YORK CITY (718) 390 - 8816 PHOENIX Phoenix May 7th, 1994 "...and when the great Phoenix is flying free, look closely at what he carries lovingly within his clenched talons. It will be a new green leaf, not from an olive branch, but from the new fresh growth of the Sacred Tree that will be flourishing straight and strong within the Hoop of Mankind's new Nation." - No-Eyes CANNABIS ACTION NETWORK in KAHOOTZ with the Mental Unity Tribe proudly presents "Phoenix" SECOND IN A SERIES OF RELEGALIZATION EVENTS LIVE PERFORMANCES BY: X-Crash Temper Tantrum (DIRECT DRIVE) (INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH) first performance on east coast this year their first performace in NYC DJs FOR THE EVENING: Lenny Dee - Frankie Bones - Keoki - Einstein Jeff Abraxas - K-5 - Tera - Dave Trance VISUALS BY: ENO-ONE Phoenix HOTLINE: 718.390.8816 - GENERAL HOTLINE: 718.390.7498 PROMOTIONAL AND BUS INFO: DENNIS THE MENACE JOINT VENTURES/S.U.N. 212.629.2061 ALAN SANCTUARY 212.696.8938 UNITED TECHNO 203.646.6381 KORT-N-GREG 516.547.7118 EDDIE VAN RAVEN, JOINT VENTURES/S.U.N. 516.925.2011 CURIOUS GEORGE, TWR POSSE FBI 718.390.7107 DEANNA 202.452.7639 DAN D.C. 201.378.7501 THC PRODUCTIONS 215.602.2890 TICKETS $15 GO ON SALE APRIL 30 AT: groove records 718.714.5232 modern music 410.523.1882 liquid sky 212.343.0532 611 records 215.413.9100 planet x 908.249.0304 music now 202.638.1213 music shack 518.436.4581 FREE THE WEED AS USUAL 50% OF PROCEEDS GO TOWARD THE MOVEMENT PROUD SUPPORTERS OF S.U.N. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 PRINCETON, NJ (609) 258 - 7249 MANTRAS The Princeton Groove Possee brings you M A N T R A S WHEN: Saturday May 7th, 10/11- ?? WHERE: 1,000,000% bust-proof location in Princeton, NJ. WHY: 'cuz our feet are ITCHIN'!!!!! WALLET THINNING FACTOR: 0 (free) DJ's: HaZard (Boston/ne-raves) Will-E (NYC/ne-raves) Mars (NJ/ne-raves) Denard (NYC) Live Experimental Midi-Drum Performance by our own CMC (Computer Music Composer) DJ DANKS!! [If you are interested, call the infoline at (609) 258-7249 and leave your name & number, and a time when I can reach you. We can have a pre-party ne-raves dinner at the location for a minimal cost, too. Come support the net-talent and groove with us! -Terence] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 7 NEW JERSEY (215) 292 - 4666 A RAVE CALLED SCOTT (212) 696 - 8938 Primal, 611, and Buzz present: A Rave Called Scott DJs: Scott Hardkiss (SanFran) Scott Richmond (Polaris) Scott Henry (Buzz) ..and these Non-Scotts: Robbie Hardkiss (SanFran) Nigel Richards (Horizon) other Scotts and Non-Scotts to be announced. info: 215.292.4666 212.696.8938 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 13 NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ (908) 287 - 8795 NO NAME On Friday, May 13th The Digital Deviants present... "N o N a m e" DJ Line-up: Spike Freshco DanDC Dayz-X1 Bananas Mars [If you're interested in DJing, call the info line.] Lighting and space by God Drinks, food, fun, vibe, energy by You Cost: Free Location: Outside, New Brunswick, NJ More info and directions: 908.287.8795 As Dayz-X-1 put it, "It's Free, it's outdoors...Fuck it, just show up." _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 20 ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 502 - 0660 THE AWAKENING DP Productions presents... A W A K E N I N G Friday, May 20 In the Main Sound Chamber: ADAM X - Groove Records, Brooklyn JAMES CHRISTIAN - Limelight, NYC MICRO - Caffeine, Long Island DAVE TRANCE - Caffeine, Long Island MARS - Oral, NJ GLEN GARCIA - Oral, NJ SAL V. - Oral, NJ Downstairs in Deeper Love: NIGEL RICHARDS - 611 Records, Philly SPIKE - Planet X Music, NJ JEFF MANHEIMER - WHTG 106.3 FM, NJ B:RAD - Vinyl, NJ BLACKOUT - Blondies, NJ JAH-RED - Blondies, NJ Mind expanding lighting and visuals by TDL EFFECTS [lighting crew for Nine Inch Nails last tour] 25K of bloody deep sound by BACKWARD AUDIO Smart Bar by LIQUID TECHNOLOGY Tribal Drumming Circle Admission: $10 in advanced, $12 at the door Doors open at 9pm, close late 24 hour info and directions: 908.502.0660 After hours by the ORAL POSSE [ If you spin after hours sort of music, e-mail me and I will get you set up to spin for this party! - Mars ] TICKET LOCATIONS: Planet X Music - New Brunswick, NJ 908.249.0304 Vintage Vinyl - Eatontown, NJ 908.517.0990 611 Records - Philly, PA 215.413.9100 Groove Records - Brooklyn, NY 718.714.5232 PROMO & BUS TRIPS: Outer Space - NJ - 908.506.9592 Angel Asylum - NJ - 908.972.6270 J-Fresh - NJ - 908.493.0172 Digital Deviants - NJ - 908.287.8795 Zoom - Allentown - 215.998.9650 T.H.C. Prod. - Philly - 215.923.4339 Alan Sanctuary - Manhattan - 212.696.8938 Kort & Greg - Long Island - 516.547.7118 Island Vibe - Long Island - 516.476.2520 United Techno - Conn. - 203.646.6381 DanFreeLove - D.C. - 202.973.2109 TranceFused - Richmond - 804.768.2000 [ If you're interested in promoting or running a bus trip e-mail Mars at: a176@lehigh.edu We especially need help in Upstate NY, the Boston area, and further west into Pittsburg and Ohio. THANX! ] This party is going to be sooooo phat, you have to come out for it!!!! Hope to see many net ravers! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 ALLENTOWN, PA (???) ??? - ???? MYSTERY MACHINE djs: Nigel Richards DieselBoy Miko Damon Wild Geoff-E plus more Smart bar by: Liquid Technology After-hours at: Freight Yard Allentown Pa. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 27 RHODE ISLAND (401) 455 - 2104 CARPE DIEM Fred Strong and Home Planet Multimedia present: CARPE DIEM A gateway to the here and now Frankie Bones Jason Jinx Adam X M-Gee DN-E Tiga Osheen Live performance by EBN and Funky Alien (of Colossal Amoeba) 10 watt multicolor argon laser and... 401-455-2104 Friday May 27 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 28 NEW YORK CITY (212) 592 - 3687 MAGIC Uptown Underground presents: MAGIC Watch us cast our hardcore spells May 28, 1994 Our sorcerers of sound: Abraxis Frankie Bones Rob G K-5 Adam X Narotic Future Funk Jimmy Crash Chris the Creator Dave Trance Einstein We've called upon these WIZARDS to cast you into Eternal Bliss. 100% Hardcore * 200% Underground * 300% Magical Uptown Underground Hotline ... For tickets and Info. 212-592-3687 Bruckner Records and Tapes ... Bronx. 718-823-8899 Groove Records ... Brooklyn. 718-714-5232 No ticket purchase at door. No admission without ticket. Tickets: $15 Only 1000 tickets will be sold for this event. Event starts 11 PM till... Nuff Respect to: The whole underground scene for making Cybertek the second best rave of 93.. Joint Ventures, Mental Unity, Back to Basics, Eddie Van Raven, Grrove Records, Bruckner Records, Alana Sanctuary, CAN, TWR, Curious George, David Dose, Under One Sky, Dawn, Germaine, Nicole, AG, SPank and Future Funk, and the fellas around the way. Remember, Always keep the scene deep down underground. Post Hypnotic Suggestion ... Cybertek II, SUN _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 BROOKLYN, NY (212) 631 - 1065 GALAXY 2000 (718) 714 - 5232 Brooklyn's combined forces present the goods GALAXY 2000 leaving earth: *Saturday June 4, 1994* Trancecore DJ's: Frankie Bones Jimmy Crash Heather Heart James Christian Adam X Carlos Tera Dave Trance K-5 plus guests and a separate chill-zone... *free toys and 20K of pounding noise* Respects Due: Storm, S.U.N., STOP, Spice, F.B.I., Motion Posse (LI), Mental Unity INFO PHONES: 212-631-1065, 718-714-5232 Prepare to blast off this June! *Brooklyn's True Underground Returns* And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 741 - 1573 SYNOVIAL FLUID DJs Scheduled ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Deadly Buda dieselBoy X-ON FiNGER Terry Kicks Special Live Act by 1.8.7. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 11 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK IV SATELLITE PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS SPUTNIK IV JUNE 11th,1994 Confirmed DJ's : ABRAXIS - Fierce Ruling Diva/Amsterdam FRANKIE BONES - Groove Records/NYC DERRICK CARTER - Chicago SCOTT HENRY - D.C./Baltimore JOSH WINK - Philadelphia JOHN ACQUAVIVA - +8 Records/Detroit/Toronto DJ EFX/DJ DIGIT - San Francisco (on 4 turntables) * Other international DJ's to be announced * INFO LINE: (212) 465-3299 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 2 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW [date is still tentative] the Reaction Chamber the Phat room DJ SUN OSHEEN SCOTT HENRY F I L ASTROBOY TERRY MULLEN DAVID J + 2 MORE T.B.A. GREG SEARGENT + 2 MORE T.B.A. the COOLANT AREA ENTITY \ ____ LIVE AMBIENT WORDMOSES / + 2 MORE T.B.A. the GOODIES: 10 WATT LASER INTELLIBEAMS IN ONE ARENA GOLDSCANS IN THE OTHER + MORE COOL LIGHTING SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE MIND MACHINES SMART BAR LIVE VISUALS BY DOUBLE HELIX COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROJECTIONS SERIOUS BLACK LIGHTING (get yer clothes ready!) 1000 FREE GLOWSTICKS (multi-colored army issue!) FREE AFTER PARTY from 9 am - 2 pm 2000 of your closest friends. [we have a spot with a 5 acre field, and a 17 acre parking lot. if all goes as planned we are going to drop in three circus tents (already reserved) one able to hold 1500 people and two which can hold 1000 people. the large tent has a 48' ceiling height! plus there will be a central area in the middle for all the merchants, smart bars, rides, etc... we are getting the city of baltimore involved to some degree. i have talked with the mayor's office and they want to specifically register voters 18 - 25 this year (which is an election year), so they are going to set up a booth. also from the mayor's office, they may set up a drug information booth, which besides giving info away about drug use and abuse will be specifically geared towards furthering the mayor's belief that drugs should be decriminalized! i'm also trying to get a meeting with the entire city council to make them see the benefits of making baltimore "the city that raves", and how they can make it easier on us to get locations. i don't know if they'll go for it, but i know we've got one city councilman who has allowed us to give his name as a reference to anyone we contact about raves. it seems a little counter underground to approach the city in this way, but i have only one motive, and that is to make it so that we can do what we all love to do without all the hassle that so often accompanies the bigger events. plus, when you think about it, this country's government was started by a bunch of underground radicals, and i think there's still the possibility of that radical thought within the current gov. -lonnie] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, July 23 NEW YORK CITY (516) 547 - 6129 PLANET EARTH Essence presents... P L A N E T E A R T H Saturday July 23, 1994 (516)547-6129 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "loops of funk over hardcore beats" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 23:34:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francis L Sibilla Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francis L Sibilla Subject: Re: Philly Event (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199404190559.BAA01931@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 19 Apr 1994, secret agent #33 wrote: > On Mon, 18 Apr 1994, David Sklar wrote: > > > > $5 for girls $7 all others > > > > fluid> Is that a little strange or is it just me? > > > > Yeah, I was wondering about that, too. Hmmm...Unity...Hmmm... > > What if it said > > > > $5 for puerto-ricans $7 all others ? > > > ain't nothing strange about having a different price for women. (or > "girls" as the eflyer said). [some deleted] > > the eflyer thing was in a club right? so clubs have weird ways to get more > people to come to their club, and one of them is trying to get more women > to come, so that more men will come... the women are the bait for the men, > the men will pay higher for more women :) at yale this weekend, i heard some > guy ask his friend, "are there hot chicks in there?" referring to the party. > Well it's not in a club - it's in the same space as the Delta Parties and it used to be a performace art space - "vox pop" I think (as my mind strains back to 87,88). That's why the woman "bait" is a rather disturbing (not that it isn't at clubs - but unfortunately - you almost expect it at some) I know the guy who is doing this event. His name is sean brown - or dexter if you've met him since he started going to raves. Since he is renting undefined space - then he is the one deciding women are cheaper. I guess he wants lots of women at his party. But this feels weird - like a women's night - i.e. come on out guys, your chances will be better. > its just business..its not as if they are trying to discourage anyone > from doing anything. > > chris > I'm just suspicious of anyone who makes women cheaper as "just business" I'm sure there are lots of other motives operating here. I'd like to continue to not think of raves as good hookup occasions - like bars try to be. I guess that's why this bothers me. Fran ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 00:16:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Biscuit Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Biscuit Subject: Re: Holy Sweet Weekend & Hello, I'm glad to see you had a great weekend and witnessed Roberts drastic talent. Unfortunatly, I got to The Source right before it was busted so I went home, and I'm not down with the Nexus promoters so I didn't even see Robert spin (and now he's gone :( Anyways, SACHA is going to bust it this weekend and I'm totally ready, hopefully I'll see you. Are you going to 10, in Portland, since there's a bus leaving from Montreal (there's a rumor that SACHA might spin at the afterpary). CU L8R Biscuit. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 22:34:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: FMR update In-Reply-To: <199404192114.RAA09087@holmes.umd.edu> Sprockett, Just get back toi me with the phone number, and I'll be there. Put me down for 1 (me) + 3 = 4 souls. Virtually yours, Bob "Howling at the moon" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 16:30:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Liza J. Weinstein" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Liza J. Weinstein" Subject: Questionnaire In-Reply-To: <9404200433.AA141478@moose.uvm.edu> Hi there. I want to know the truth about ecstasy, but I need your help. I'm not some random person invading this net, I'm one of you, I'm Tranq and I'm doing an independent study on E. If you could take a 15 minute break to fill out this questionnaire, I would appreciate it so much because I can't get any results without some data. Anyway, it's fun! The following questionnaire inquires about your use of ecstasy (E or X). I would like to acknowledge certain patterns of use as well as influences upon ones use. I am a student who frequently goes to raves and I know what we all do there which is why I am using this rave list because I need alot of responses. I am pursuing this study due to personal interest as well as credit for an independent study. This is an anonymous study. I will not know who you are when you respond to me, so please be truthful! I greatly appreciate your help in filling this out. If someone could forward this questionnaire to other rave lines, that would be great. With you help, maybe we can prove the truth about E! Thank you. :) When sending back your response, please send to an91288@anon.penet.fi. They will erase your header, hence making you anonymous, and then it will be sent back to me without me knowing who you are. In short, you are safe. As soon as the results are finished, I will post them for your pleasure. 1. How old are you? 2. Where are you currently living? 3. Do you work? If yes, what is your salary? 4. Are you a student? If yes, what are you studying? 5. What is the highest number of school years you have completed? 6. Have you ever been in trouble with the law, school, or work (drug-related or not)? Over what? 7. Are you male or female? 8. What is your race? 9. Have you ever been psychologically assessed with a disorder? If yes, with what and when? 10. Have you ever been to rehab? If yes, what for and when? 11. Have you ever done MDMA/ecstasy? If no, you do not need to fill out this qustionnaire. 12. How old were you when you first tried ecstasy? 13. How many times have you taken E in the past year? 6 months? week? day? 14. Overall, how many times have you ever taken E? 15. About how many of those times do you think you were given something other than MDMA like ketamine or MDA? 16. How many E's do you usually take in one night? 17. Do you take them whole or in halves? 18. If you take them in halves, how long of a time interval do you give between taking them? 19. What kind of an effect do you feel when you're on E? (Ex. rushing, head spinning, talkative, nausea, energy, trippy, sleepy). 20. How long does it usually take for these effects to hit you? min. 21. Do you take other substances along with E? If yes, what, when, and how often? 22. Please name or describe different types of E's you've taken along with one adjective to describe them. (Ex. flatliners-spacey, doves-head shattering, luvdups-amnesia, pinkpill-speedy, etc.) 23. Have you built a tolerance to E? If yes, do the positive effects decrease as the negative effects increase? 24. Have you read about ecstasy or do you just neck 'em? 25. Did you take ecstasy back in the days when it was legal? If yes, how do they differ now, and how does the population who take E differ? 26. If you could create your own drug, what qualities would you give it? 27. Do you think you differ in your personality from before and after you started taking E? If so, how? 28. What are your motives for taking E? Please check for yes. To get a rush: To escape: To take risks: To alleviate depression: To enjoy the high: To socialize: To use for recreation: To use for more energy: To use for more creativity: To intensify the sound of music and sight of flashing lights: Other : 29. Have you ever had any difficulties or adverse experiences with ecstasy? . Explain: 30. Do you know anyone who has ever overdosed on E? 31. Do all your friends do E? 32. Do all your friends do other drugs? 33. How important is doing E to you and your friends? 34. Where do you usually do E? 35. Do you enjoy doing E more when you're alone or with others? 36. Do you usually plan on doing E or is it more by chance? 37. Do you have any rules about doing E? If yes, what are they? 38. Will you use E in a strange place? 39. Is acquiring E easy or difficult for you? 40. Do you or have you ever dealt E? 41. How much do you pay for an E? $ 42. Do you know anyone who has got into legal difficulties with his/her use of ecstasy? What happened? 43. Have you or would you ever steal to get E? 44. Can you keep E around without using them up quickly? 45. What activities do you particularly enjoy when you're Eing your head off? 46. Are you more likely to use E in a particular place, or will any place do? 47. If you were to tell a novice 3 important things about E, what would they be? 1) 2) 3) 48. Where did you get this information? 49. How did you feel about E before you ever tried it? 50. Did these feeling change once you tried it? If yes, how so? 51. Are there drugs you have refused to try? Which ones? Why? 52. Are there any drugs you would like to try? Which ones? Why haven't you tried them yet? 53. Do you feel closer to the drug world or the nondrug world? 54. What do you think about laws relating to drugs? Too easy or too harsh? 55. Shoul MDMA be legalized or decriminalized? 56. If legalized, do you think your use would change? If yes, how? 57. How do you feel about your current pattern of use? Are you satisfied? Do you think you are using too much? Do you think you'd like to use more? THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU Dont forget to send to an91288@anon.penet.fi. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 14:13:47 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: A Message of PLUR In-Reply-To: <199404040342.XAA12264@holmes.umd.edu>; from "John Goldman" at Apr 3, 94 11:43 pm Hi my name is cat and I have seen these flyers at events too I want to get in touch with people at the ministry of love.... I have seen other things they have put out but havent gotten copies do you know how to get in touch with them??? Any help would be greatly appreciated... CAT (purrrrrrrr) yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 13:51:14 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Earth Day 94 (KU) Earth Day A celibration of life, everywhere. Kutztown University Saturday April 23rd 10:00 am to 6:00 pm on the north campus soccer field and in front of the library * +8 Local bands from bluegrass, folk, alternative, and punk, to Pa dutch (Poor Luthers Bones, Electric farm, Orchestra Creation, Sautcony Creek ramblers, Buzz factory, Crop Circle, Keith Brintzenhoff, Kutztown Folk Music society and more) *Main Stage featuring modern dance, Native American poetry, music, and lectures *family stage featuring "giving tree" performance, talks to local land issues, games *"eco" crafts art, and products *children's events includes story tellers, craft demonstrations, MOON BOUNCE, art and science contest, face painters, film fest, etc. *over 20 educational booths including greenpeace, Sierra club, DER, Rodale research Center, and Amnesty International *Complete Meals of natural food and international cuisine (smart bar by Liquid Technology) *"into the streets" volenteer rally for area ecology products they forgot to mention a huge caravan of people heading up to the full moon rave afterwards ;) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 13:40:47 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: directions Earth Day Ok here are the directions to Kutztown pa for anyone that would be interested in coming up saturday and then head out to the Full Moon Rave. from all points south: Get on the pennsylvania turnpike at rt 1 toward Harrisburg. Then take Rt 9 exit for North east extention. Get off the extention at the Lehigh Valley exit, which is right after Quakertown (make sure you do not miss this exit because the next exit is 22 miles away!) Make a left on 22 to Kutztown exit at the stop sign make left. Go to the Turkey Hill convenience store and make a right. This street is Main street. Take this road til you see the sign "kutztown University" and look for the earth day signs all over campus. My phone number is 610 683 1240 at school if you need to get ahold of me before Saturday. I will be setting up rather early in the morning on saturday so your best bet would be to page me at 215 998 9650 or ask for directions if you were to get lost. Well, I really hope to see a bunch of net-ravers out :) It is going to be a ball! Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 13:32:05 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: woosta! Upcoming events for the Worcester/Boston Acid Underground.... This weekend in Maine around Portland, JackMaster Flash is having a party that Joel and I are playing at. Mail me for directions, if interested. Next weekend, the 30th, Joel and I are _possibly_ securing an outdoor space between Boston and Worcester for a small outdoor Outlaw. This is not yet confirmed, but stay tuned... The following weekend on May 6 (friday), Joel and I plus special guests are doing an afterparty at Industry in Manchester, NH from 1:30-7/8am. More info to come... Then we're going to Phoenix on Saturday to see LENNY DEE!!!! YIPPEE!! dave. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 12:36:00 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: FMR update In-Reply-To: <199404192114.RAA09087@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Kristopher Setchfield" at Apr 19, 94 5:13 pm sprokett- if you know of spaces in upstate new york please get in touch with me... also if you need video for your rave contact me- hope i can help peaceout -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :)............................................shiva@freenet.scri.fsu.edu (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 11:23:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: gettin' rid-o-records gettin rid of records... la de de de dah... here's what i'm looking for: Lil Louis "The Blackout" Here's what i have... Capella "everybody" LFO "LFO" Altern8 "brutal8-e, one for john, etc" Orbital "Orbital" LP the others are 12" singles... i have others... if you are willing to give up your copy of the "Blackout" 12" single... e-mail me and we'll figure something out. i am getting rid of CDs too (for the better) Aural Ecstasy "The Best of Techno" (hardcore/old-school) the original "Rave 'Til Dawn" CD release with the song that was omitted in later release Techno Sonic Volume 1 Techno Sonic Volume 3 and a slew of others :) the CDs are all in great condition, i just don't need 'em anymore and they make great car stereo tunes... they ring of old-school (I still like old school, thank you!) i also have a Razormaid CD with classic new beat music on it... DJ only promo from a few years back. interested??? e-mail me with the Header "I'll buy that for a dollar" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:49:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: for jake of melon design only >Date: Tue, 19 Apr 1994 18:33:34 EDT >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , > Kristopher Setchfield >Sender: NE Raves Discussion >From: Kristopher Setchfield >Subject: for jake of melon design only >X-To: ne-raves >To: Multiple recipients of list NE-RAVES > >i did not have your email address....sorry i had to post to the net. >would you please mail me at kumquat@acs.bu.edu. >there is a potential event happenning on may 21st, and we would be interested >in having your visual support. >thanks, >sprockett > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 10:07:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: further Cybertribe: Natali wrote... >for steve and any others questioning info about further (which is right in >my backyard practically) i thought i'd post the info. numbers for various >cities/states :) here goes- in no particular order: > >Lexington 606.281.4193 Boston 617.541.9258 >St.Louis 314.995.9299 Cleveland 219.238.1451 >Chicago 708.216.9798 Philly 215.233.9777 >Madison 608.283.3202 Connecticut 203.627.5686 >No.Illinois 815.469.8917 #104 Atlanta 404.250.8230 >Iowa 319.757.5323 New Jersey 908.724.9711 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is my Page-Mail number, you can call me and leave your name and number and I'll call you back and we can talk about the event or to hear the recorded info, call: 908.506.9592 Remember, Aphex Twin will be at this event as well as the Hardkiss Brothers, unforutantely, I'll be at Motah-Booty at Penn State on Friday, April 29th and at Taboo Acid 2 on Saturday April 30th in NYC. If you want to hear me DJ, come out to one of these events as well as Full Moon Rave up in Albany. I also spin every Thursday night at "Oral" in New Jersey... You can hear about all these events on the info line. Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 21:10:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MONO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MONO Subject: pirate radio...again... well...it seems i got some posts backwards in my mail...and i replied to a reply before reading joe's original post...about fcc law... he's totally dead on...i've also studied fcc law (i work at a radio station and am taking a mass comm law class as we speak)...soo...if we get caught we are screwed, he's right about the money and jail...the fcc doesn't screw around.. maybe we could cable a bunch of boxes togehter w/ line in/out cord (i think it's called and rca line)...anywayz....this puts a little kink in the plan ah well....and just when i was getting into this idea.... aaron... . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .________mono________________________stu_awmeyers@vax1.acs.jmu.edu____________. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 20:22:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sheri Hendrickson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sheri Hendrickson Subject: Re: further There are some more crucial numbers that were forgotten to be posted on that last message for Further happening in rural Wisconsin. This numbers belong to the voicemail of the promoters throwing this event on. * Milwaukee/Drop Bass Network ...........414.777.3998 ...........414.256.1733 * Minneapolis/M.O.R.E. ...........612.649.4768 ...........612.649.4902 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Once again, here's the info. that went through the mw-raves net: 29 APRIL - 01 MAY Friday-Sunday FURTHUR Drop Bass Network Reactor Magazine and Minneapolis MORE are proud to invite the United States to a most special event F F F F F F U U R R R R T T T T T H H U U R R R R F U U R R T H H U U R R F F F F F U U R R R R T H H H H U U R R R R F U U R R T H H U U R R F U U R R T H H U U R R F U U R R T H H U U R R F U U U R R T H H U U U R R three days-48 hours-APRIL 29 thru MAY DAY on a beautiful rural site located equidistance from Milwaukee-Chicago -and Minneapolis Everyone is invited Spacious legal outdoor to camp + picnic Venue with rain protection Enjoy the elements if weather demands APHEX TWIN HOSCHI ROLAND CASPER FRANKIE BONES The San Fransisco HARDKISS EXPERIENCE Adam x Barry Weaver Micro ESP Heather Heart Terry Mullan Hyperactive Special Live P.A.'s by SPECTRAL EMOTIONS- Labworks Records Germany COZMIC COMMANDO- Rephlex Records U.K. DUB TRIBE- Organico Records U.S.A. Dave Hollands-Mystic Bill-Davey Dave-Mr. Bill-Nigel Richards-Jethro X-Jedidiah-E Tones-Apollo-Alex-Drone-Earth-Mind Drive-Wade Randolf Hampden-Tommy Sunshine-Efex-JJ Jellybean-Phantom 45-RP Smack-Diesel Boy-Mr. Bill (Detroit)-Caz-Tron-Fierce-FreddyFresh-Jajo-Merlin-Razz-Yoda- AND OTHERS TBA For more info: 414.777.3998 612.649.4768 312.604.1833 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can but your tickets in advance for $15 at Untitled (Chicago), Northern Lights (Mpls), and ? (Milw). Otherwise it's $20 at the gate. The closest major city to the site is Minneapolis. It only takes around 2 hrs to get there. I this info. hope this can help. All of us Midwest folks we would be more than ever pleased to see people from other parts of the U.S. attend. Hope to see you there! -hkk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 23:18:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Rave Called Scott After Party Howdy Tribe! For all of you who will be journeying to A Rave Called Scott in levittown, PA (which is 15 mins. from my house), I will be throwing an after party in Bristol, PA (The town next door and my home) at the Danis's Annex. It will start at 9am to 1 pm on Sunday, MAy 8. I will be passing out flyers w/ directions at Rave. DJ's other than me TBA, but hopefully, I can get Diesel Boy (if you are reading this, Damian, please consider ;) ), Nigel Richards, and King Britt, HOPEFULLY. I will let everybody know. The space for this is a nice catering hall. I will probably charge $2 for this event, so do not be cheap!!!! :) And info, page me at 1-800-366-2337. After beep, dial 15416, then your number. Or you can e-mail me. Jack in! PaniK panik@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Apr 1994 14:47:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Return 2 Atlantis From Manny at Oracle Productions: R E T U R N T O A T L A N T I S SATURDAY, APRIL 30 PROVIDENCE, RI "The best of Techno, House & Breakbeat in a Warehouse location." Overload Ryde Osheen Scott Richmond Troposphere Rio Happy Ambassador $12 Advance/$14 Day of Event (401) 454-6002 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 00:03:53 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , acphyo Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: acphyo@AOL.COM Subject: rave stuff hello, i am doing research on raves and rave music i california for a telematics course. any info you could send would be greatly appreciated. also, are there any cool raves going on near buffalo ny? thanks :) annie phyo aol: acphyo e-mail: v058n487@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 01:18:47 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: kenfunky fried houseparty: an interstellar outback benefit okay, okay, here are a few updates... sorry to post to many listses but we seem to get a lot of NE & SE folks here... as a fundraiser for the Interstellar Outback free party thingie in Kentucky, we're going to do a friday night minimalist gig to raise up some vibe & karma & $evil$ for the august party. this may not occur until june-ish or maybe late may (the 27th?) but I wanted to see if some netters might be interested in coming down. It would be a $5-ish party with the option of donating more at the door. what we'd have: A FRIDAY night thing - starting late & going late - too much competition for dates lately. Stretch - who kicked butt in the second room at Escape Velocity Astroboy - who kicks butt in general King Britt - who seems to have joined me in a deep, enduring hatred for Delta Airlines & wants to come down to Lexington. & the usual gaggle of "hey can i spin" DJs fighting over turntable space but who won't stop King & co from 2 hours each on the steel. Killer Sound - never shave off the sound budget. 1 strobe, some christmas lights, and a blacklight or two, maybe a red colored party bulb* from k-mart. Cheapo photocopied flyers that don't get put out anywhere but raves, not even at the cool little coffee houses in town. *(semi- intelligent?) a 4000 square foot space that's an apartment made out of a 20's ballroom in downtown lexington, such as lexington has. These guys have thrown a lot of very wild parties (>600 humans) with bands and never have the cops messed with them- and those were with alcohol. Nevertheless, the people are cool. This would be the kind of place people could crash at after the party. No visuals. No virtual reality equipment. No live PAs by God Himself And A Bunch Of His Big Holy Buddies. Do you think it's B2B enuf? what we'd want: 200-400 Deep Underground Devoted To The Vibe Raver-Type-Folks (tm) who might pop up despite the lack of star spangled budget or super duper huge crowd. a lot of netravers (see above) who might bring a few friends down. EV was wonderful and a lot of the reasons were humans from these networks. won't you come down & join us again? If you're really broke and can't afford to pay, of course we'll let you in. but if you could pay, it would be nice to help out the outback. ANYWAY- sorry to ramble. I don't know, are people interested in this? If so, email me & tell me whether to do it or not. If so, we'll do it. If not, I'll shut up & see you folks around. peace & rugs; jsquared -> and I would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those... (606.281.4193 voicemail) (606.253.1376 (h)) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 01:19:48 -0400 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: travel message, SEMI - IMPORTANT this is proselytising, please feel free to delete if you don't ever get on the road. sorry but i feel strongly about this suddenly. >>soapbox on. the delirium/j2 stand hit toronto this weekend, driving in a tiny little rented Geo Metro. strangely as we go to Xstatic (toronto's rave HQ place) we run into a lot of familiar faces. including michelle from Neraves who came down to Momentum with the Pitt massive- she and a friend were up seeing phantom of the opera, and happened into the right store when there were only 4 tix left. but they didn't have a ride- so we packed 5 people into the Geo Ball of Aluminum. we had fun, Sasha, Soulslinger, Jason Jinx, Keoki- they all kicked ass. we crashed at Michelle & co's hotel for 2.1 hours. we split from the afterparty around 11am. tired as hell, with a 10 hour drive in front of us. i get us to the 401 & crash out, my head resting on my seatbelt. i woke up as the car was blown out of control by the wind/driven off the road by sleepy driver error. we went down a 20 yard 30-degree incline, then rolled front-over-back 4 times, ending up upside down, all windows smashed out except the front. the driver & i were wearing out seatbelts, and all we got was a lot of nasty scrapes, whiplash, and concussions from the caved-in roof of the car. the guy in the back of the car was not wearing his seatbelt- he flew out the window and was fortunate enough to land on his back. while exiting the car, he bruised his er, genitalia, to the point of black and blue. we all got a nice concussion, the car was totalled, we were lucky as hell to walk off with all our limbs, let alone alive. the moral of this story: if the driver had any worse reaction time (ie, had done any drugs the night before or during), we would have been dead. if the driver or I had not been wearing our seatbelts, we would have been dead. if you travel to a rave, or travel to many of them, keep in mind how elevated your statistics are for accidents. don't do stupid stuff, like take A to stay up, or drive too tired. you'll be a lot later for work if you make a quick trip to the emergency room. wear that uncomfortable stupid seat belt. keep a designated drive and even if your party is busted, don't do any driving if no one is ready to do it. ask other ravers to help you get your car to someplace safe to chill or crash- they're a friendly bunch, they'll help you out in a tough spot. i know, i sound like some pbs commercial, but this isn't any bullshit. sorry for the downer post. a wild wacky peak experience is compatible with the real world of physics and cops, but the interfacing is a bitch. >>soapbox off. consider. be careful. peace. sorry. just promised myself I'd post this if I survived. jsquared ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 01:19:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: rave stuff In-Reply-To: <199404210426.AAA29270@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu> > also, are there any cool raves going on near buffalo ny? > thanks :) > annie phyo > aol: acphyo The first real rave in Buffalo is: SUESS PRODUCTIONS PRESENTS G A T E W A Y FRIDAY APRIL 29TH 11:00PM TILL 6:00AM STIMULATING YOUR EARS --------------------- SPEED DEMON-DC JIMMY-BOSTON SPENCER-OBERLIN CURIOUS-BUFFALO STIMULATING YOUR EYES --------------------- SUESS-SUESS PRODUCTIONS ENERGY (SMART BAR) BY --------------------- LEYLA $10 ADVANCED-$12 AT DOOR UB STUDENTS-$8 ADVANCED-$10 AT DOOR $1 OFF W/FLYER ADVANCED TICKETS CAN BE PURCHASED AT- UUAB TICKET COUNTER HOME OF THE HITS-(716)833-0330 NEW WORLD RECORDS-(716)882-4004 LOCATION-164 ORCHARD PARK ROAD WEST SENACA BUFFALO, NY DIRECTIONS-Take 90 to rt. 400(exit 54). Get off first exit which is Senaca St. Make a right. At the first light make left on to Orchard Park Rd. The place is on the left-hand side about less than a mile down. SPECIAL THANKS- DAN MECHANIC, ALLIE, TL, RICH, TOM R., KINDLE, KEITH, UUAB PAT KNIGHT, STEVE Marchese, ANDY, REGGIE, ROB PLEASE NO GLASS BOTTLES SECURITY BY CLEMENT THE GATEWAY INFO LINE IS (716)829-4057 (716)838-2885 I really need people to buy advance tickets or else this event may not happen. PEACE OUT!!!! SUESS ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:27:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: here it is, officially.... RAVE THE BAY (YAY!) THURSDAY JUNE 2, 1994 FROM 11 p.m. - 7 a.m. ULTRAWORLD PRESENTS AN 8 HOUR BOAT CRUISE ON THE CHESAPEAKE BAY ON THE BAY LADY WHICH DOCKS AT THE LIGHT ST. PAVILLION AT THE BALTIMORE INNER HARBOR. WE WILL BE LEAVING FROM THE BALTIMORE INNER HARBOR, SAILING TO ANNAPOLIS AND BACK AGAIN. THERE WILL THREE DECKS OF MUSIC- ON DECK ONE- ON-E WINK M GEE WHO ON DECK TWO- SCOTT HENRY JASON JINX DJ SUN ALVARO & DEISELBOY!!!!! (can you believe it? :) ) ON DECK THREE (OPEN TO THE SKY) L.G. WASH MOSES BOBBLE ( i may spin too but i'm not making any promises) VISUAL STIMULATION BY DOUBLE HELIX (seth the boy wonder) THE OFFICIAL TICKETS WILL BE AVAILABLE AT MODERN MUSIC'S PARTY ON APRIL 30th. THEY WILL BE $35 AND WE WILL HAVE A BOOTH SET UP THERE WITH THE FLIERS AND TICKETS. OR CALL 410.880.7031 TO ARRANGE FOR TICKET PURCHASE. ONLY 450 TICKETS WILL BE SOLD, SO GET YOUR TICKET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE OR YOU MAY MISS THE BOAT! DUE TO BOAT REGULATIONS NO FOOD OR DRINKS MAY BE BROUGHT ON BOARD, BUT THERE WILL BE WATER, SODAS, JUICES AND FOOD SOLD ON BOARD AT GOOD PRICES (this is boat rules and they get all the money, sorry bout that) YOU CAN PARK AT THE GARAGE ACROSS FROM THE LIGHT ST PAVILLION AT HARBORPLACE AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. BESIDES A NIGHT WE'LL NEVER FORGET, EVERYONE WHO GOES ON THE TRIP WILL RECEIVE A FEW "RAVE THE BAY" BUMPER STICKERS. WHY AM I SHOUTING? BECAUSE I'M EXCITED, THAT'S WHY. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GO, I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH TO BUY YOUR TICKET ASAP. WE ARE RESERVING SPOTS FOR NO ONE! (seriously) people who want to buy tickets at buzz, reel chill, or fever, may give me money, i will take your name and vital stats and issue you a ticket as soon as they are printed next week. ultraworld out. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 02:22:17 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: pirate radio...again... In-Reply-To: <9404210116.AA29705@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "MONO" at Apr 20, 94 9:10 pm I remember reading that some sort of radio transmissions, anything under ten watts is permisable and does not have to be FCC licenced to broadcast. Im fairly sure about this doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 03:11:44 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: pirate radio...again... In-Reply-To: <199404210632.CAA09446@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Douglas Zimmerman wrote: > anything under ten watts is permisable and does not have > to be FCC licenced to broadcast. Im fairly sure about this actually, i think what i read in an article in the last mondo2000 was that canada allows unlicenced radio broadcast at like no more than 3 watts or something, but in the U.S. there is no broadcast that is legal unless its licenced. i'm fairly sure about this, as a past teacher of mine and his cohorts were in the detroit free press for running a 3watt station in detroit and they were in danger of being arrested for it. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be used as toys in the next Squishy Rasterbation Session, and an agent id # will be allocated to you automatically. You have been warned. Please report any perversion, wackiness, etc. to squishy@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 08:39:54 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "They robbed me blind, took all I owned..." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "They robbed me blind, took all I owned..." Subject: 10 Are any of you planning to attend this function this weekend? If so I'll see you there (although I doubt it) Citizen Kane ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 08:43:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Subject: 10 In-Reply-To: "They robbed me blind, took all I owned..."'s message of Thu, 21 Apr 1994 08:39:54 EDT <9404211241.AA24730@life.ai.mit.edu> Yep, I'm going to be heading up to 10.. Are there going to be many ne-raves people there? I was hoping to stop by the blanket and say hi :) -- ian ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:13:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: unsubscribe sorry guys, I need a break! :.( -Laters, Dave the snowboarder ******************************************************************************** ** "I just hope that when dogs take over the world they don't judge each ** ** other by their sizes, because I'm sure there are some Chihhuahuas ** ** out there with some pretty darn good ideas" ** *********************************************** - Jack Handy ******************* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | David La Puma / dlapuma1@ithaca.ithaca.edu | | Ithaca College Ithaca, NY | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 09:33:47 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "They robbed me blind, took all I owned..." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "They robbed me blind, took all I owned..." Subject: 10 - for those who replied already I lost your replies, can you re-reply? thanks ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:41:09 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: What do YOU do??? hmmmm... i was wondering this before i fell asleep this morning... what did YOU do before you started raving??? here's what i did... Dance? school dances (in Fairport,they were pretty good:)) Subversion? we made explosives and blew up stuff (old broken toys, wooden structures, and the like) Party? back-road parties, house-parties (SIMPLE? anyone), hot-tub parties, and the like Music? old-school rap, psychedelic rock, i used to play guitar Travel? out of country, to NYC, to Canada, to Texas, and the like I'm just wondering what everyone here did before you raved. come on...be truthful, there's a little bit of a subvert in all of us:) keep the vibe flowing 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:45:36 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: while we're on the topic of pirate radio.... From: IN%"martinko@netcom.com" "JMRTNKO DSGN ETC SFCA" 6-FEB-1994 17:45:08.31 To: IN%"sfraves@techno.Stanford.EDU" "sf-raves list" CC: Subj: (fwd) When the FCC Knocks - Legal Advice (fwd) Return-path: Received: from techno.Stanford.EDU by snycorva.cortland.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #3312) id <01H8KO2XY7JK8WW6G9@snycorva.cortland.edu>; Sun, 6 Feb 1994 17:44:58 EDT Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA07190; Sun, 6 Feb 94 14:31:03 PST Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA07182; Sun, 6 Feb 94 14:30:59 PST Received: from mail.netcom.com (netcom.netcom.com) by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA07175; Sun, 6 Feb 94 14:30:50 PST Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id OAA06792; Sun, 6 Feb 1994 14:31:37 -0800 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 1994 14:27:32 -0800 (PST) From: JMRTNKO DSGN ETC SFCA Subject: (fwd) When the FCC Knocks - Legal Advice (fwd) Sender: sfraves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU To: sf-raves list Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Picked this up on the alt.radio.pirate newsgroup. Gives a little background on pirate radio. Don't forget 89.1 FM tonight at 9. Now I have to fix my antenna so I can listen too. JMAR. hissscracklebuzzzzzpop! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 14:16:29 -0800 From: JMRTNKO the real McCoy! To: martinko@netcom.com Subject: (fwd) When the FCC Knocks - Legal Advice >From hiken@igc.apc.org Sun Dec 26 17:17:15 1993 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 10:26:33 -0800 From: Marguerite and Luke Hiken To: frbspd@crl.com Subject: FCC Knocks WHAT TO DO WHEN THE FCC KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR Produced by the Committee on Democratic Communications -- A National Committee of the National Lawyers Guild Address: Committee on Democratic Communications, One Sansome St., Ste. 900, San Francisco, CA, 94104, (415) 705-6464. INTRODUCTION: RECLAIMING THE AIRWAVES! Let a thousand transmitters bloom by Stephen Dunifer, Free Radio Berkeley Using inexpensive hand-built transmitters, micro-power broadcasters such as Free Radio Berkeley and Black Liberation Radio in Springfield, IL, are challenging the information stranglehold imposed by the corporate media and enforced by federal regulation. Micro-radio is a First Amendment challenge to restrictive federal regulations which only favor those with money and power. Most communities are denied their own voice. Unless one has at least $50,000 to start a 100 watt FM station, there is no way any community without those resources can have a voice. Before 1980 it was possible to apply for and receive a 10 watt Class D educational station license with very little money in the bank. Thanks to an alliance of reactionary elements, who sought to suppress voices outside the mainstream, and liberal elements such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (NPR), who sought to establish more "professional" stations (translation: more likely to be funded by corporate blood money laundered through foundations), the FCC eliminated all 10 watt station licenses as of 1980. This move prevented the 90% of the U.S. population who do not have the monetary resources from having a voice on the FM band; especially African Americans who are underrepresented in the media by 600%. If the airwaves were not dominated by the corporate media pirates, there would be plenty of FM radio spectrum space available for all to use. Even in the congested Bay Area FM radio spectrum, there are quite a number of frequencies that would be appropriate for low power (.5 to 10 watts) community broadcast operations. Unfortunately, like so many other public resources such as old growth forests, the air waves have been hijacked and polluted by the corporate state in its relentless pursuit of profit and control of all public resources. In response, there is a growing movement of individuals and communities who have set up micro-power (.5 to 10 watts) broadcasting operations. Most notable of these is Black Liberation Radio, which covers a housing project area in Illinois. Black Liberation Radio has been under severe attack by both the local police and federal agencies. Despite police and federal harassment, Black Liberation Radio is on 24 hours a day offering some of the finest programs to be found anywhere on almost no budget. Frightened by this growing movement, the FCC comes knocking at doors, slapping fines ranging anywhere from $750 to $20,000. This booklet is to help you deal with the FCC's tactics to stifle our right to communicate with each other. Just imagine the possibilities of having hundreds of micro-power broadcasts like this across the country. Cost is not a problem since a basic station can be put on the air for less than $200. Soon, an inexpensive UHF TV transmitter design will be available as well. With determination and purpose we can break the stranglehold on the flow of cultural and artistic expression information and ideas in this country. WHEN THE FCC KNOCKS ON YOUR DOOR NOTE: The following discussion assumes that you are not a licensed broadcaster. Q) If FCC agents knock on my door and say they want to talk with me, do I have to answer their questions? A: No. You have a right to say that you want a lawyer present when and if you speak with them, and that if they will give you their names, you will be back in touch with them. Unless you have been licensed to broadcast, the FCC has no right to "inspect" your home. Q) If they say they have a right to enter my house without a warrant to see if I have broadcasting equipment, do I have to let them in? A: No. Under Section 303(n) of Title 47 U.S.C., the FCC has a right to inspect any transmitting devices that must be licensed under the Act. Nonetheless, they must have permission to enter your home, or some other basis for entering beyond their mere supervisorial powers. With proper notice, they do have a right to inspect your communications devices. If they have given you notice of a pending investigation, contact a lawyer immediately. Q) If they have evidence that I am "illegally" broadcasting from my home, can they enter anyway, even without a warrant or without my permission? A: They will have to go to court to obtain a warrant to enter your home. But, if they have probable cause to believe you are currently engaging in illegal activities of any sort, they, with the assistance of the local police, can enter your home without a warrant to prevent those activities from continuing. Basically, they need either a warrant, or probable cause to believe a crime is going on at the time they are entering your home. Q) If I do not cooperate with their investigation, and they threaten to arrest me, or have me arrested, should I cooperate with them? A: If they have a legal basis for arresting you, it is very likely that they will prosecute you regardless of what you say. Therefore, what you say will only assist them in making a stronger case against you. Do not speak to them without a lawyer there. Q) If they have an arrest or a search warrant, should I let them in my house? A: Yes. Give them your name and address, and tell them that you want to have your lawyer contacted immediately before you answer any more questions. If you are arrested, you have a right to make several telephone calls within 3 hours of booking. Q) Other than an FCC fine for engaging in illegal transmissions, what other risks do I take in engaging in micro-radio broadcasts. A: Section 501 of the Act provides that violations of the Act can result in the imposition of a $10,000 fine or by imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or both. A second conviction results in a potentially longer sentence. If you are prosecuted under this section of the Act, and you are indigent (unable to hire an attorney), the court will have to appoint one for you. Q) Are there any other penalties that can be imposed upon me for "illegal broadcasts." A: Under Section 510 of the Act, the FCC can attempt to have your communicating equipment seized and forfeited for violation of the requirements set forth in the Act. Once again, if they attempt to do this, you will be given notice of action against you, and have an opportunity to appear in court to fight the FCC's proposed action. Realize, though, that they will try to keep your equipment and any other property they can justify retaining until the proceedings are completed. You have a right to seek return of your property from the court at any time. Q) If the FCC agents ask me if I knew I was engaged in illegal activities, should I deny any knowledge of FCC laws or any illegal activities? A: No. You will have plenty of time to answer their accusations after you have spoken with an attorney. It is a separate crime to lie to law enforcement officials about material facts. Remain silent. Q) If I am considering broadcasting over micro-radio, is there anything I can do ahead of time to minimize the liklihood of prosecution? A: Yes. Speak with an attorney before you are approached by law enforcement to discuss the different aspects of FCC law. Arrange ahead of time for someone to represent you when and if the situation arises, so that you will already have prepared a strategy of defense. Q) What can I do if the FCC agents try to harass me by going to my landlord, or some other source to apply pressure on me? A: So long as there is no proof that you have violated the law, you cannot be prosecuted or evicted. If there is evidence of misconduct, you might have to defend yourself in court. Depending upon what the FCC said or did, you might be able to raise a defense involving selective prosecution or other equivalent argument. If the conduct of the agents is clearly harassment, rather than a proper investigation, you can file a complaint with the F.C.C. or possibly a civil action against them. Q) If I want to legally pursue FCC licensing for a new FM station, what should I do? A: It isn't the purpose of this Q and A sheet to advocate or discourage non-licensed broadcast operations. A person cited by the FCC for illegal broadcasting will find it virtually impossible to later obtain permission to get a license. If you want to pursue the licensing procedure, see the procedures set forth in the Code of Federal Regulations, Title 47, Part 73. The application form (Form # 301 A) is extremely complicated, and requires a filing fee of $2,030.00. If you want to contact the FCC directly, call them at their Consumer Assistance and Small Business Division, Room 254, 1919 N St. NW, Washington, D.C. 20554, tel (202) 632-7260. Don't bother to try this without significant financial backing. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bandwidth Hogging via the kind courtesy of DesignLink FCBBS (1) 510 933 96 76 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ J M R T N K O D S G N E T C S F C A | t h e t h i r s t y f i s h . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John A. Martinko, west desk chief, Illegibility Engineering Division mmoooon...yipyipyipyipyip...uhhuh...uhhuh... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 11:17:59 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Donovan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Donovan Subject: Atlantis 2 Hiya.. just got the latest calendar for NE-Raves and I wanted to make an additi on to the info on Atlantis 2 in Providence on April 30.. info & bus Saturday April 30, 1994 - Return to Atlantis Prov 401-621-7563 Bost 617-730-5709 DJ's ME 207-773-6979 CT 203-646-6381 Osheen - Rio - Ryde - Ambassador NY (Up)914-256-0445 NYC 212-631-3614 Happy - Overload - Troposphere - Scott Richmond Glow Worm Visuals - Main Room and Chill Zone - Lots-o-Speakers That's all for now.. and anyone wanting promotions in the South County/ URI area of RI email to Donovan at dwil2015@uriacc.uri.edu -Peace out! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 11:36:34 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: sfraves log I'm BUGGIN....... I'm trying to find the log for sfraves for last week-end. I've tried mailing any address I could find from the opening banner of sfraves. I've even logged on to that system a couple of time per day. No luck. Anyone aout there have any ideas??? Thanks woof ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:10:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: What do YOU do??? well, before raving i: 1. was pretty heavy into freestyle bicycle riding...you could see me and my trusty Dyno at various Philly, New Jersey, and Maryland competitions...i even had a biking zine called "misunderstood youth" *sigh, those were the days* its sorta funny, 'cause through this i had met people like mars, todd sines, and china WAAAYYYY before i had ever heard of a "rave" 2. actually would go to the lame clubs in philly...aggggh someone kill me now 3. was in a band that did really poor joy division covers...the funny thing is that two of the 4 members of that band now make breakbeat.....hmmmmm -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:30:22 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Subject: Re: 10 - for those who replied already i'm headed up thataway...i'll be the one in constant kinetic motion, so i'll be easy to spot (ha ha...ha?) the lineup looks good...any info re afterhours djs yet? peace and juicy bass beats ^ ^ @ @ O....Eisforenergyempathyexcitemententertainmentepiphanyecstasyenjoymenteducati educationentropyedificationetc. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:35:24 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregor Lawrence Hoffman Subject: Re: What do YOU do??? sometimes i used to go to museums and maybe watch a movie... i used to ride my bicycle hither and yon... i used to actually get some studying accomplished... I suppose all has been subsumed to da groove! ^ ^ @ @ (o)...semi-facetious peace and moist n' chewy bass beats GH ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 13:30:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: here it is, officially.... There are going to be new tickets printed? Cause I bought one from ya at smiii, hm I hope I dont need to get another one..or i hope it isnt forgotten that those tickets were bought... oh well let me knwo john g ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 13:36:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: What do YOU do??? Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 21-APR-94 13:18 >From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU >Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 10:41:09 -0400 >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >hmmmm... >i was wondering this before i fell asleep this morning... >what did YOU do before you started raving??? > >here's what i did... >Dance? school dances (in Fairport,they were pretty good:)) >Subversion? we made explosives and blew up stuff (old broken toys, wooden > structures, and the like) >Party? back-road parties, house-parties (SIMPLE? anyone), hot-tub parties, > and the like >Music? old-school rap, psychedelic rock, i used to play guitar >Travel? out of country, to NYC, to Canada, to Texas, and the like > >I'm just wondering what everyone here did before you raved. come on...be >truthful, there's a little bit of a subvert in all of us:) > >keep the vibe flowing > >1000 >--- I dont know about you but I was a dead head hippie boy who liked my acid and my pot, and then in highschool I was a GASP jockish type person... oh well john g ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:17:03 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: Re: What do YOU do??? hmm. what *did* i do before i started raving? well, i went out to a lot of teen clubs dancing as a pseudo teenage goth. i like d dressing up silly (or at least it was silly in hindsight) and go try and impre ss freinds. i still looe to dance, but somewhere along the way i lost touch with the idea of impressing everyone in sight.. bought lots and lots of records, and after being exposed to techno bye an englis h penpal wondering why no clubs ever played it, and why there were no raves in a tlanta.,... and here i am now..:) allison ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:28:41 -0400 Reply-To: carmela@umich.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: carmela@umich.edu Comments: Originally-From: carmela@umich.edu From: Sam Sunshyne Subject: nirvana june 18th ************************************************************************** ****************** saturday june 18th 1994 12 noon to 12 noon universal groove invites you to join us, as we embark on a journey for.... n i r v a n a turntable shamen for our voyage: dieselBoy speed demon jimi doom astroboy dj snuggles acid boy todd p sunshyne dj mars haZard (more to be confirmed...) *live performance by INSTINCT recording artists* PROTOTYPE 909 this event will take place on a 180 acre campground, about 1 hour from detroit. we've got a whole mess of cool things to do during the day: body painting, moonbounces, video games, and much, much, more. look for more info, and flyers, in the days ahead... info line: 313.358.9895 WORK THE VIBE ************************************************************************** ****************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:24:58 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , stephen <00117117@YSUB.YSU.EDU> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: stephen <00117117@YSUB.YSU.EDU> Organization: Youngstown State University Subject: Re: What do YOU do??? In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 21 Apr 1994 12:10:13 -0500 from before...um...raving?.... 1.raced bicycles 'round pittsbugh and such... (what's this connection between bicycles and raving, anyway????) 2.skated 3.was in a band that souded amazingly like new order....(and no "dizzy" jokes from damian, please ;)heheh.... and an industrial skinnypuppy-meatbeat- ish band... stephen......KingSize. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 14:40:26 -0400 Reply-To: danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Sorry NE Raves was down from approximately 10 last night until 7 this evening due to a local network problem. Our DNS (Domain Name Server) had some hiccups and ended up spewing thousands of bounces into my mail box and not delivering mail to alot of people. The problem should be fixed now and NE Raves is back up. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:13:39 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: pirate radio...again... In-Reply-To: <199404210632.CAA09446@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Douglas Zimmerman wrote: > I remember reading that some sort of radio transmissions, > > anything under ten watts is permisable and does not have > to be FCC licenced to broadcast. Im fairly sure about this > > doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu Unfortunately anything under 10 watts is gonna get stepped on if it is on a frequency that a much more powerful station is xmitting on. If it is on its own clear frequency it will be heard but outside of say 100 feet or so it will start to get really fuzzy. The range could be improved to maybe 300-500 feet depending on the antenna however I believe the FCC also has rules about antenna length of unlicenced, low watt (Part 15) transmitters. In any case the turntables would have to be still very close to the monument or the mall or whereever you decided to have this event. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:31:01 +0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: What do YOU do??? In-Reply-To: <199404211441.KAA12724@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 21 Apr 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > hmmmm... > i was wondering this before i fell asleep this morning... > what did YOU do before you started raving??? > > here's what i did... > Dance? school dances (in Fairport,they were pretty good:)) > Subversion? we made explosives and blew up stuff (old broken toys, wooden > structures, and the like) > Party? back-road parties, house-parties (SIMPLE? anyone), hot-tub parties, > and the like > Music? old-school rap, psychedelic rock, i used to play guitar > Travel? out of country, to NYC, to Canada, to Texas, and the like > > I'm just wondering what everyone here did before you raved. come on...be > truthful, there's a little bit of a subvert in all of us:) Lets see before 1991 I did the following (I'll use the same format). Dance? School dances but I didn't dance, I was a wallflower and could never really hookup with girls. (my how things change). Subversion? Blowing up things with pure potassium/sodium and water. Building science projects that everyone was scared to push the button on. Reading books about UFO's and how to build your own laser ans other electronic projects. Hacking and Phreaking with my C-64. Getting in fights cause someone called me a nerd. Listening to shortwave radio (my first exposure to techno was from listening to a pirate station out of the UK.) And other things to rebel against society at large. Party? Nah was too busy doing the above. (I guess I make up for it now.) Travel? Going on trips with my parents, mostly to our summer place in Meadville PA and surrounding areas, and their yearly jaunts to Toronto (I always did like that town!) Music: Listened to alot of old school hip-hop/electro boogie beat/freestyle and later house when my sister and brother would spin in the basement our when I would help them out at parties. Me being different stoped listening to it altogether when I was like 15 and I got into New Wave then Heavy Metal (I took up guitar) and then Punk and then that brings us up to 1991 when I discovered the T word. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Apr 1994 16:50:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: pirate radio...again... In-Reply-To: <199404212014.QAA17981@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 21 Apr 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > Unfortunately anything under 10 watts is gonna get stepped on if it is on > a frequency that a much more powerful station is xmitting on. If it is on > its own clear frequency it will be heard but outside of say 100 feet or so > it will start to get really fuzzy. The range could be improved to maybe > 300-500 feet depending on the antenna however I believe the FCC also has > rules about antenna length of unlicenced, low watt (Part 15) transmitters. > In any case the turntables would have to be still very close to the > monument or the mall or whereever you decided to have this event. even a one watt transmitter can be made to reach a one mile radius. this isn't "close to the monument or the mall" at all. with a 10 to 15 watt transmitter and a good antenna and transmitting location you can cover a whole city, possibly. in the last issue on mondo2000 they suggest getting one of the Radio Shack microphone/transmitters that transmitts over the whole fm spectrum and then you *could* (illegally) use a booster amp to to up the transmitter signal before it gets to the antenna. in their description of this they even use the senario of ravers bringing a pocket fm radio and all tuning in to the broadcast and "tune in, and drop everything" i'll type the whole blurb in in a minute. chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the Squishy Designs Love Project, send mail to: squishy@world.std.com. 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