From LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU Wed Aug 10 23:38:58 1994 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 23:15:48 -0400 From: BITNET list server at UMDD To: "" Subject: File: "NE-RAVES LOG9403" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:01:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kevin Wayne Bazar Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kevin Wayne Bazar Subject: calender stuff "SUB CALENDER" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:29:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: red flyers and more I would be very grateful if someone would throw a Red flyer my way through the mail :) Will give ya the cost to cover postage and such. If someone could grab an extra just email me and I will give ya my address Thanks, Noj=ME=John ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:46:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES Does anyone remember the first time they experienced the power of techno? I was DJing at a party at the Lodi Portuguese Club in Lodi, NJ, the night before Thanksgiving in 1991. I played "James Brown Is Dead" and got enveloped in a totally silent trance-like state. The crowd of 400+ was so into it and adding the crazy light show, I was amazed by the power that techno had over both crowd and DJ. This was a DJs dream come true, to see and get totally involved with the crowd and their journey toward musical exxxxxtasy. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu To find out how to subscribe to the DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE, "finger" me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 02:10:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Introduction piece.. Okay, I worked on the introductory message for people who sign on NE Raves and I thought I would give it over to you folks to point out any mistakes I may have made on it. I am also thinking about adding an index, a note on what the content of NE Raves should be (no flames, though intelligent arguments are encouraged and no 'me to' messages), perhaps an improved introduction, a bit on resources (HOM, ROM and FTP site), maintainers, and general netiquette. So, give me some feedback and when I make the corrections I will put it up. Dan 'He who should change his .sig file, any suggestions?' "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu --- __________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the North East Rave List Dedicated to you, the members of the underground _____________________________________________________________v2.0_ Please retain a copy of this material for future reference. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Introduction: Hello, I am your host for the duration, danFREELove. If you have any questions, problems, or comments about the list itself, please feel free to mail me anytime at: anarchy@eng.umd.edu. NE Raves is a forum for the discussion of the various aspects of rave culture, upcoming events, and life in general. If you have something to contribute, please, we want hear from you. 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These are very large files so I would use this service sparingly as it takes up large amounts of system resources to send files of this size through the Internet. To retrieve a months archives of letters from the NE Raves Discussion List please send the following line in a email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: get ne-raves logxxyy Where: xx = the year of the archive yy = the month of the archive ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 02:20:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Kick It - Future Groove Hey folks. Me and Becca are heading up from DC this Friday to go to Philly for Kick It and then from there up to Long Island, NY on Saturday for Future Groove (Damian is spinning!). Wondering if anyone wants to join us for the journey (or maybe part of it). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:45:46 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES In-Reply-To: <9403010549.AA09616@sutro.SFSU.EDU> what a great topic idea.....!!! i remember the first time iheard techno was in 1987 where on a station in san francisco they played "the modern mix" and mentioned something about acid house music *a long forgotten precursor of techno* and really liked it...then i went to chicago in 1989 and listened to this stuff called techno...wowowowo...and it all progressed from there...partyon...susie(: ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 08:58:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Citizen Kane Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Citizen Kane Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES Date: Tue, 01 Mar 94 08:49:57 EST Again- a great topic. Here in Maine there has only realy been one outlet for alternative music - Zoot s and Chris Clark. I started going to Zoots when I was a freshamn in high school, around 86-87 I t hink. The place was great back then, the sceene was so much livlier, there were punks, skinheads, goth's, etc...... Zoots plyed rap (P.E.) and what I call Goth-Rock, P.I.L, Cure.... But most importantly Industrial! Those of use who lovewd industrial began to drift into tech as some of the early industrial bands did - like 808 state, and especially meat beat manifesto. And one day I was in pennsylvania and heard frequency - wow, I brought a bunch of it back in the area. Most of my friends (by now ex skinheads) loved it. The sceene slowly evolved, and Zoots sponsored the first rave the summer of my sophomore year in college, it was great - but not much more than a more festive night at Zootz. One interesting note - those of us in Portland who came into it via industrial like hardcore, etc. but some of my other friends entered via other means - hous e, etc....they like it slower. /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ \ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land / /IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine Use OS/2, it'll change your life\ \ If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? / /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 09:19:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES Gosh.....That was a while ago..... I guess it was 2 summers ago. I worked for a friend of mine on Miami Beach at the Raindance Production. It was sooooo rad. It was packed from 10 pm until 10 am and there were about 7 guys spinning throught the night. I don't remember though who the guys were. (it was a new thing for me being that I was 15 years old at the time). I just remember being able to stop working at 2 am and the guy I worked for told me to "just forget everything and go out and dance". I had the best time. I worked the same event last summer at the same place, an outdoor dancefloor placed on the beach in the back of the Surfcomber Hotel, it was amazing. This time they had booths set up, a huge smart bar, etc. They had the works. At about 5 am, thirty to fourty people decided to get naked and go swimming in the pool. Talk about a crazy night. Naked, in a pool, watching the sun rise.......God I can't wait for the next rave I'm trying to get my girlfriend to go, hopefully there will be somthing in Mass next week. Any info? -Dave ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 10:48:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH and Floyd fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH and Floyd fan Subject: Re: calender stuff In-Reply-To: <199403010512.AAA03938@umd5.umd.edu> from "Kevin Wayne Bazar" at Mar 1, 94 00:01:17 am X-Rush Quote: "He's not concerned with yesterday. He knows constant change is here today. He's noble enough to know what's right. But weak enough not to choose it. He's wise enough to win the world. But fool enough to lose it." -RUSH, 'New World Man' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 509 > > "SUB CALENDER" > it might help if you spell calendAr correctly. ;) -- ============================================================================== || Matthew Jukins || "Begin the day with a friendly voice; a companion|| || mpj1@kepler.unh.edu || unobtrusive- plays that song that's so elusive, || || mpj1@christa.unh.edu || and the magic music makes your morning mood." || ||======================|| -RUSH, "Spirit of Radio" || ||==================================================|| ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 10:46:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: HOM submission i lost the address to send my hom submission to, so im posting to the whole list. ill be at the Fantasy Project, Jetta's boston party Future Groove Red i can give crash space for 1 or 2 for red, and otherwise would love to get together with everyone at *each* of the events above. sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 10:50:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Sputnick or Future Groove just a note to coerce anyone thinking of going to sputnick 4 PLEEEEeeeeEEEeeEeEeeeeeeEEEEEEeeeEEEEEeEeEeEeeeeeEEEese come to future groove! support the underground that supports you....not those who scam you for 5-10$ over what a party is worth and wont let you bring in food/drink, etc..... yet scam you inside at 1.5$ for a bottle of H2O. no names here.....but please help eachother..on the net here..rather than the moneygrubbing F*SION crew. i have good personal reasons for this stance....but that isnt for a public post email me if curious sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:58:31 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <01MAR94.14068014.0236.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N Subject: I still can't get any mail! Hi i filled out a message with a request to get back on the list but for some reason, i still haven't received anything. Am i forgetting something important? i have ways of finding your replies if you do post one. i really do want to be back in the saddle again so to speak. Does the word "request" actually have to appear in this part of the message? Is that it? request, request, request, REQUEST! thank you for your patience. ciao, dj Nonsense. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:32:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: Lodging space for Red some of us happen to live enough within the area *hint hint* love and frogs!!! neith ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:18:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Future Groove Info... Saturday, March 12, 1994 (516) 576-2520 FUTURE GROOVE, Long Island, NY sashay@phantom.com ...presented by MikeM & Spam, Astralwerks, and the Island Vibe Crew... Main Room DJ's: Micro - Caffeine/Sorted Records Sameer - Caffeine/Essence Reese - Astralwerks Brian Walters - Digitek Osheen - Rhode Island/Renegade Records dieselBoy - Pittsburgh/Momentum Omar - Long Island Outlaw Focus - Long Island Underground Quest - ZYX Records New Talent DJs: Oz - Waltham, Mass WILL-E - NYC C.Mellow - Boston Tiff - VA/DC G-Money - NJ Slant - DC/VA (Fever New DJ Finalist) Panik - Philly DJ Mars - Jersey Sprockett - Boston Kari & Dennis - Westchester, NY (Boardwalk) ...plus more New Talent DJs TBA Admission is $10 Long Island locations to be announced 24 hours prior to event. To recieve a Future Groove flyer send address to sashay@phantom.com (and "cc:" to caffeine@cyberspace.net) If anyone needs crash space for the party email to the same adressses above. Hope to see a lot of you there... ...chris (spam) *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:40:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: Introduction piece.. Hi Dan and everybody, how interesting! i was thinking just yesterday about volunteering to maintain a FAQ--frequently asked questions--sheet for the list. I think you hit on a need for the list. I do think this should be a weekly or twice/month mailing to the list because people just dump, lose the introduction or demonstrate later need for more info. For example, I think the FAQ/intro should contain addresses for all relevant lists--bpm, uk-dance, idm as well as the other geographical rave lists, node addresses for archive sites, irc channels and vrave. haZard ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:56:16 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <01MAR94.14579489.0236.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N Subject: the reviews i almost forgot. Now that i got that other part off my chest, i feel much better. i almost forgot that i wanted to post some new music reviews. i'm an avid record collector and have seen other reviews posted here so i thought i would give it a try. Progressive House. LEX LOOFAH/Freaky Deaky/Warp Rec'ds....Very groovy little number. A little more conventional style from most of the stuff on Warp that i already own but a tasty treat nonetheless. About 130 bpm, roughly 8/9 minutes long with a break in the middle that echoes off to go silent for a second or two then come kickin' back for more. i'm not much of a house fan at all but this one gets a thumbs up from me. ZUVUYA/Grabbing Nandi By The Horn/Nation Rec'ds(?)... Tribal freaks have a new anthem with a capital A. This single with four mixes of the track have an interesting sort of voice imitation of the digeridoo then kicks in with the percussion to take you away...then from out of nowhere comes the bass and snare track in half time! the track is really only half as fast as you have now been dancing for the past two minutes! Grabbed me by more than just a horn i can tell ya! Very ethnic, very fun clocks in at around 130bpm but i like to pitch shift it all the way up. Gets pretty frantic that way. Big Thumbs up! KISSING THE PINK/Dalai Lama Loves You All/?..........Avoid the A side but the remixes are definite trance/house bliss. Nice sort of monk-like chant with a groovy rhythm carries you in, steady hummable bassline lifts you up and a little singing voice that chants "Dalai Lama" over and over makes you smile. Light in tempo but is very groovy and extra percussive tracks give you room to dance harder if you like. Thumbs down for the fast fade out, but two great remixes make for a thumbs up over all. all for now,more later next week new stuff on DJAX and plus 8. ciao for now. dj Nonsense. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:08:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: HARD ACID Underground in Worcester, MA Here's a party for all you HARD ACID/HARDKOAH junkies happening in Worcester. Last weekend there were about 90-100 people there. It's a nice warehouse space a little bigger than the techno floor at the LOFT. I can't remember the last time I had that much fun so close to Boston. dave. **** SATURDAY MARCH 5th **** Worcester, MA 11pm - 8am Intimate party with the following DJ's spinning for your pleasure: * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Denard (Digitek) * Carlos (B2B) * Dave (Boston) * Calvin (Woosta Underground) * Howie (Woosta Underground) This is a FREE party. DIRECTIONS: (INFO LINE: (night of ONLY) 508-753-3749) (From points East of Worcester) Take I-90 West to exit 10 (290 East). Take 290 East to exit 13. Take a left at the top of the exit ramp. This will put you on 122. Stay on 122... (IMPORTANT: ...keeping the Merit Gas Station on your right) Go about a 1/4 of a mile to your first light (after going under an overpass) Take a left at that light onto Southbridge Rd. Go down two streets to Jackson and take a right. Follow Jackson to the end and it's the last building on your right. There will be somebody at the door. FOR PARKING: Make a right turn at the end of Jackson and park on that street. (DO NOT park on Jackson). ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:14:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES my first "techno" experience was hearing 808 state in the background of a MTV "120 minutes" report on Manchester. My freind and I literally searched EVERY- WHERE to find it, because it sounded so good.... And, of course we eventually stumbled on "Ud. State 90" and the rest, shall we say, was history :) (thinks of "pacific" and smiles) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:19:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Selway Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? In-Reply-To: <9402281539.AA37269@brick.purchase.edu>; from "!" at Feb 28, 94 4:10 pm > well, in my opinion, gabber is more noise and simple to create than other music maybe, but it's fun to do. As a producer, I actually find trance and other techno styles just as easy, if not easier. > style. Now, in Europe, gabba is less played as 2 years ago, because of the tell that to the 10,000 people at Immortality in Amsterdam last Saturday. My group, Disintegrator, performed there - it was insane! except for the smaller mellow room and chill out area, the music was full on hardcore gabba all night. peace SPY ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:18:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Oliver N and the NE Raves Intro Could someone mail Oliver N (c7o7@unb.ca) and tell him that my mailer doesn't recognize his address? I have tried subbing him several times and his machine does not exist as far as my system is concerned. :( Also, if you could forward that intro piece to him I would be much obliged. HaZard, I would love to have you maintain the intro piece/FAQ once I finish putting some more information in it (tonight!). The one thing I am concerned about is the size if you did try to maintain a complete list of information in the Intro. I think it would be a better idea to simply include pointers to the alt.rave FAQ and the Rave List of Lists maintained by Mike Brown (ambient). Another concern is that the service this is running on can't maintain any other information but the Intro message. I would love to see an NE Raves specific FAQ and list of lists, but it wouldn't be maintainable on our system. You may be able to get it archived at the techno.stanford.site. But anything you want to do, go for it, just let me know what you want to do. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:36:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: please please please one last time..... i think jesse and i can get to future groove in li this weekend but will need rides to boston from it....please be a dearie and let us in your car....remember i bait you with cookies :) Love and Frogs!! Neith ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 15:42:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:24:13 -0500 Joey was not program 2 but they are all from brooklyn and have collaborated previously........ mostly remixes................. just the fax !! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:13:26 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Pulse-8 Wednesday Night Cybertribe, I want to encourage anyone who lives in Jersey to come out to our party, "Pulse-8" this Wednesday night. We secured a small intimate space that we feel will be excellent to promote a strong vibe and sense of unity for the ravers who are truely aware of what the scene is all about. The music and DJ line up for the night has been carefully set up to create a positive flow of energy featuring a DJ from each genre: house, breakbeat, hardcore, hard trance, acid, and acid jazz. Your Mental Navigators: Jah-Red, Glen Garcia, Sal V, Mars, Jeff Mann, and Brad Bishop. There will be a chill out lounge, coat check, drinks, and more. The party will begin at 8:30pm and run until 2:30am. The location is in Asbury Park, New Jersey and you can get directions the day before by calling (908)502-0660. There is no comp list (free admission), but there is a reduced admission list that you can get on by leaving your name, address and phone number on the voice mail line. Deadicated to Postivity, Mars and the Pulse-8 crew ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:05:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: METHOD ONE - "FUNCTIONAL" avalible soon! whew! just thought i'd take a little break and inform all of you that my next tape, "functional" will be done in two weeks....approximatly 3/10/94. ive put a lot of time into the songs on this, so i'm really excited about it! anyway, some basic information about it: method one "functional" - in case you didn't know, music style is breakbeat...and tthis ISNT a mix tape ....these songs are all originals :) - 8 tracks: 6 originals and two remixes by 187 (industrial strength UK) and jamie myerson (reinforced records)... you can either get the tape through our friends at zoom :) or through me directly...if you're interested, email me for price and address... :) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:08:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES In-Reply-To: <199403011840.NAA10134@umd5.umd.edu> > my first "techno" experience was hearing 808 state in the background of a MTV > "120 minutes" report on Manchester. My freind and I literally searched EVERY- > WHERE to find it, because it sounded so good.... Hmmmmmm...this might seem funny....the way I first heard techno was Lords of Acid....an exboyfriend of mine, when we were first dating would have a little bit to drive me back home...and he'd play techno and industrial.... a lot of times, Lords of Acid were on by the time we got back home and sometimes we'd be "making out" to LOA........my first taste [so to speak] of techno. Mel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:12:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: Minor Infraction hey, hey...things are looking good for the microrave :) seems as though the boston scene is going back underground (noting dave mcmahon's report)... yay! :) so anyway, here's the info: date: 3/11/94 time: 8pm-2am place: schneider center, wellesley college (off of rte 16 in MA) name: minor infraction djs: donato (house of lordvale) secret agent mellow (dEEEtroit) jimmy hat (condom, boston) oz (blisss, boston) sprockett (boston, albany) ambient chillout room (in cafe hoop): roo (cincy) live performance: f(x) lasers by jna smartbar by jennbug ??617.283.1944 or e-mail jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu wfs! :) jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:14:29 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: HOM submission ill be at the Fantasy Project, Jetta's boston party Future Groove Red i can give crash space for 1 or 2 for red, and otherwise would love to get together with everyone at *each* of the events above. ******** I'd like to get together this weekend for Fantasy Project. Is there any pre- party thing goin on before? I also hope to meet up for Future Groove. I would voluteer my house on LI but I don't know if mom would go for that.... --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:14:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? you are in Disintegrator??????? seriously!!! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 14:24:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: please please please In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 1 Mar 1994 13:36:19 -0500 > one last time..... > i think jesse and i can get to future groove in li this weekend but will need > rides to boston from it....please be a dearie and let us in your car....remember > i bait you with cookies :) > > Love and Frogs!! > Neith Er, isn't Future Groove next weekend (the 12th)? It better be, because I'm working this weekend!!! __________________________________________________________________________ _____ \___/\ Phil / / / / A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag / / is fast and bulbous / /____. got me? \/______\ __________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:43:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:57 -0800 Well not to sound matter of factly.... The mortal combat song was written by two guys from Belgium I don't have the 12" in front of me now but I know those guys are true to the scene and have been around awile.. I surprised that a top 40 station would play a record that I have only seen on import... Maybe it was released domestic by radikal or something.. TOM ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:19:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Re: Future Groove Info... > >To recieve a Future Groove flyer send address to sashay@phantom.com (and >"cc:" to caffeine@cyberspace.net) Harry Duran 180 Ashland Ave. B23 Bloomfield NJ 07003 201.680.9692 Thanks :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:26:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Eileen Reilly Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Eileen Reilly Subject: Re: Minor Infraction i'm getting orthoscopic knee surgery done on friday. sorry i won't be able to make it :) i'll be there in spirit, supporting the vibe :) i really hope tosee you soon . . . red maybe ? (either that or one the streets of boston, right :) eileen ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:32:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Krieg vs. Dawn and Fiend (not Camper) In-Reply-To: <199402261440.JAA08883@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 26 Feb 1994, Edward Potter wrote: > Hmmmm..... And I just worry about finding a studio apt under > $1500 a month in NYC....... > it's more like $750 through the new york times or an agency that is downtown and midtown prices near the subways in a decent hood really its bad but not that bad one bedroom that is $1200 ok, give the apple a break ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:52:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory In-Reply-To: <199402262027.PAA18626@umd5.umd.edu> no more evolution factory.... mike reagan is out of favor paul paul your faithful boy look for small parties by my gang soon... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:53:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: SORRY Sorry for the abberant mail folks, I keep forgetting about that header thing BTW call or write anytime, drop by too! You are always welcome Harry *blush* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 12:28:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , One of Many Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: One of Many Subject: ack! i forgot! here's the March BOoM... **************************************************************************** * V-/NE-RAVES BIRTHDAY-O-MATIC * * March 1994 * **************************************************************************** 03/01/62 Ed aka SLiP ebh@summit.novell.com 03/10/75 Dave Sklar aka aesch ?? 03/12/66 Greg Samson aka Velocity-9 punkboy@u.washington.edu 03/13/70 Dave Kelly aka blur(r)^99 kellyd@cybernet.cse.fau.edu 03/26/73 Jenn Smeddy aka jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu 03/30/60 Brendan McDougall (brendan) mcdougall@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu 03/30/73 Brian Behlendorf (brian) bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK here's the BOoM for March...the Birthday-O-Matic is rapidly reaching its own birthday-yay! Um..let's see. If you want to be on future BOoM's, please e-mail jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu BY THE 15th of the month BEFORE you want the b-day to be listed...and include b-day (mo/da/yr), net name, real name, and valid e-mail address...(so we don't get 5 million bounces) Thanks :) wfs + happy birthdays... and don't forget to come to the microrave at wellesley college (Mass) on 3/11/94. jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:29:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SCALIGU1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: SCALIGU1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: First Techno Experience etc.... Well, I was about 5 1/2 years old when I first heard "ComputerWorld" by Kraftwerk.....if that counts for anything......honestly, I've been hooked ever since. However, it wasn't until '89 that I really heard the new beginings. I picked up a Kraftwerk maxi single of "Telephone Call", which had an amazing hard mix called "House Call". Then came all that pump up the jam stuff and other Detroit workings, next was 808, and other Manchhester grooves etc... Then BOOM... it just took off! Anyways, that's about it for me. Question: Has anyone out there ever heard of a group called CHOICE? I picked up their "Paris" ep when I was in Quebec....it's simply fascinating. UpBeat trance*ambient. I would really like more info. on them! THANX FASCIC vIzor(*) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:01:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: METHOD ONE - "FUNCTIONAL" avalible soon! In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 01 Mar 94 14:05:53 -0500. <9403011907.AA19807@MIT.EDU> > whew! just thought i'd take a little break and inform all of you that my next > tape, "functional" will be done in two weeks....approximatly 3/10/94. ive put > a lot of time into the songs on this, so i'm really excited about it! anyway, > some basic information about it: > method one "functional" > - in case you didn't know, music style is breakbeat...and tthis ISNT a mix ta *pe > ....these songs are all originals :) > - 8 tracks: 6 originals and two remixes by 187 (industrial strength UK) and > jamie myerson (reinforced records)... > you can either get the tape through our friends at zoom :) or through me > directly...if you're interested, email me for price and address... > :) > -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu What's up Jason....I'm definitely interested in your tape... let me know the info... peace....and keep it ardcore! -casper ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:20:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: looking for rekkid In-Reply-To: Casper "Re: METHOD ONE - "FUNCTIONAL" avalible soon!" (Mar 1, 5:01pm) halo fella ravies: i am looking for a song called constant ritual by hard way to come, i couyld not find it anywhere,could be konstant ritual or may be the song is hardway to come.it has an excellent housy beat. i heard it on radio 2 years ago, now i cant find it. please do help if any djs r out ther. thanx jujubee ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 17:37:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Fireman 451 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Fireman 451 Subject: Re: Introduction piece.. In-Reply-To: brendan mcdougall "Re: Introduction piece.." (Mar 1, 12:48pm) On Mar 1, 12:48pm, brendan mcdougall wrote: > Subject: Re: Introduction piece.. > Hi Dan and everybody, > > how interesting! i was thinking just yesterday about volunteering to > maintain a FAQ--frequently asked questions--sheet for the list. I > think you hit on a need for the list. > > I do think this should be a weekly or twice/month mailing to the list > because people just dump, lose the introduction or demonstrate later > need for more info. > > For example, I think the FAQ/intro should contain addresses for all > relevant lists--bpm, uk-dance, idm as well as the other geographical > rave lists, node addresses for archive sites, irc channels and vrave. > > haZard >-- End of excerpt from brendan mcdougall I agree. Also, one thing I didn't see in the intro was enough netiquette. I find it pretty annoying when people respond personally to the whole list. Responses like "I can give you a ride." or "I want a tape, my address is:" These should be sent directly to the poster not to the whole list. Please include this and any other netiquette you think is important. If you have a personal response with important info (like "I can get red flyers, what's your address") that other net-ravers might want, I consider that an appropriate post. But please direct your response to the whole list. peace -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 15:53:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: fantasy project.... In-Reply-To: <9402282245.AA23122@acs.bu.edu>; from "Wei-En Chang" at Feb 28, 94 3:11 pm > > I'm planning on going with some friends from Boston. I guess doc Martin and > Jon Williams are spinning, but if anyone has more info on the event, please > let me know. Also, is there a reduced admission list for cybertribers? > Please reply to weien@pageworks.com > ok, fantasy project is brought to you by acme labs.... also spinning are adam x, micro, osheen, bones, troposphere, and happy. jake (melon designs) does the lighting...and there are free afterhours. there is no discount for netters....unless a lot of us plan on going, in which case i might be able to work a deal.....need a minimum of 15 though, and we'd all have to arrive togethre....which could be as simple as having dinner before. also im in boston...do you have a free space in your car? id just need a 1 way cuz i live in albany and would probably go back with my friends (spring break) i posted this to the net cuz i though others might be interested in hooking up b eforehand, and if we work 15 or more, i might be able to wrangle sumthin... sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:13:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: METHOD ONE - "FUNCTIONAL" avalible soon! In-Reply-To: <199403012306.SAA19724@umd5.umd.edu> > > - 8 tracks: 6 originals and two remixes by 187 (industrial strength UK) and joe is signed to industrial strength? or is this a different 187? chris -- We pray the acids of House. We promise you the future of House. * finger for pgp key ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:31:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Sprockett mix tapes hey sprocket!, how are you, your set was rad on saturda, up at falstaffs, i wish i got to hear the end of it though!:( oh well my ride was boogying. are you coming over this weekend? are you going to the fantasy project? how is boston doing? yeah, can you hook me up with one of your tapes? i will talk to you this weekend about it though! see you then!:) l8r...peaz out...jen:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:16:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: please please please ooops sorry...i did mean next weekend....we're going up to pitt this weekend with hope :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:20:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: red flyers and more In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 1 Mar 1994 00:29:42 -0500 from I too would like to get a couple of RED flyers. I have a friend in Australia th at wants me to pass one along to him. So if I could get two that would be reall y cool. :) Thanks! send replies to RC3116a@american.edu and I will give you my snail address. BeccaMD :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:34:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ...FAQ hi, i plan to maintain the faq. dan will be sending me his intro piece. i would like to hear what you think should be in the list, but don't everybody feel obligated to answer at once. i coudn't handle 200+ replies... so if you can, wait until you see the beta version. your favorite factoid/meme may already be included :) see you around haZard ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 19:59:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RENDONL%NORWICH.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Libardo Rendon Subject: Montreal Recomendations I will be going to Montreal this weekend, can any one tell me the good clubs to go. Libardo Rendon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:59:44 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: future parties? hello cybertribe!, mistress loretta and i were wondering how everyone would feel if we put up a sign saying something like,"cybertribe members", or something like that. why? this wasy it will make it a little easier for everyone to meet each other. we would post it near our table at any events we set up at. how does everyone feel about this? yes, no, maybe, ideas? thanx alot...peaz out...peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:37:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Lodging space for Red i think the name of the motel was either best western or quality inn. i believeit was best western though.:) if you get a few people to go in on the cost, it will be fairly reasonable. hope to see you there!:) l8r...peaz out...peppermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:48:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Sputnick or Future Groove i heard a rumor that sputnick 4 was being pushed back until april or may anyways, sooo...there should be more of an abundance of people at future groove anywaysright? if it is true that is. hope to see you at future groove!:) peaz out...peppermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 00:43:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/1/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Next weekend should find most of you vrave addicts out of your holes with the net-rave at Wellesley and then all the net-DJs spinning at Future Groove. Also note that Timewarp 2 has been rescheduled a third time and combined with Timewarp 3 to create "Timewarp 2 + 3". Also, preliminary Red info is out. Hopefully someone will type in a full flyer by next weekend. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: Date Name Location For More Info ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 03/02/94 - PULSE-8 - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 502 - 0660 03/05/94 - - Worcester, MA - (508) 753 - 3749 03/05/94 - SONIC SOUL - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/05/94 - RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE - Nova Scotia, CA - (902) 423 - 1508 03/05/94 - THE FANTASY PROJECT - Poughkeepsie, NY - (914) 463 - 9350 03/11/94 - MINOR INFRACTION - Boston, MA - (617) 283 - 1944 03/11/94 - KICK IT! - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 552 - 8940 03/12/94 - FUTURE GROOVE - Long Island, NY - (516) 576 - 2520 03/12/94 - SPUTNIK 4 - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 03/19/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT III - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 04/02/94 - EQUILIBRIUM - Connecticut - (???) ??? - ???? 04/09/94 - THE FORTRESS - Jersey Shore - (908) 229 - 2946 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/23/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 2+ 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 05/21/94 - ULTRAVIOLET - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Wednesday, March 2 ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 502 - 0660 PULSE-8 P U L S E - 8 First SERIOUS underground in the Jersey Shore area. DJ's: Gee Money (Glen Garcia) ~ Metro/Vinyl Mixing dark breaks and underground house Mars (Marshal Hamilton) ~ NE-Raves/Energize Spinning hard trance and acid Visuals: T.H.L. EFX 9pm - 2am Tickets $6 ($2 off when you leave your name and number on the voice mail line) Call for location... INFO: 908.502.0660 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 WORCESTER, MA (508) 753 - 3749 *night of ONLY* 11pm - 8am Intimate party with the following DJ's spinning for your pleasure: * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Denard (Digitek) * Carlos (B2B) * Dave (Boston) * Calvin (Woosta Underground) * Howie (Woosta Underground) This is a FREE party. DIRECTIONS: (INFO LINE: (night of ONLY) 508-753-3749) (From points East of Worcester) Take I-90 West to exit 10 (290 East). Take 290 East to exit 13. Take a left at the top of the exit ramp. This will put you on 122. Stay on 122... (IMPORTANT: ...keeping the Merit Gas Station on your right) Go about a 1/4 of a mile to your first light (after going under an overpass) Take a left at that light onto Southbridge Rd. Go down two streets to Jackson and take a right. Follow Jackson to the end and it's the last building on your right. There will be somebody at the door. FOR PARKING: Make a right turn at the end of Jackson and park on that street. (DO NOT park on Jackson). _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 NOVA SCOTIA, CA (902) 423 - 1508 RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE Cognition Audiworks and Dystonia present Rhythmic Dissonance Saturday March 5th, 10pm til? 1588 Granville st. Downtown Halifax Nova Scotia tickets $5 in advance $6 at door live acts include...Automata, Protozoa, Bass Response, Sub-Level and Fork Boy oh, and Neural Firing Squad too. DJs...Mastermind, Blue, Rinse, lucidril, Kali, LAShTAL and Nonsense Info lines NS 902/423/1508 NB 506/458/8735 it's a pre-release party for the rhythmic dissonance compilation of eastern canadian techno talent. hope some of you will come. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SONIC SOUL Interactive Trance Ambient Atmosphere _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (914) 463 - 9350 THE FANTASY PROJECT ACME Laboratories presents THE FANTASY PROJECT a benefit for the Woodstock Animal Rights Movement DJs: Doc Martin (SF Wicked crew) John Williams (SF Wicked crew) Micro & Lewis (four turntables) Osheen (RI) Adam X (Groove Records) Frankie Bones (Groove Records) Troposphere (DMC Records, NY) Happy (Boston) 10 pm - 10 am $18 warehouse location directly across from Marist College Poughkeepsie, NY _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 11 BOSTON, MA (617) 283 - 1944 MINOR INFRACTION vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu SBOG & WZLY present: M I N O R I N F R A C T I O N Schneider Center Wellesley College (15mi W of Boston) DJ's: donato (house of lordvale) oz (blisss, boston) jimmy hat (condom, boston) sprockett (albany, boston) secret agent mellow (dEEEtroit) Ambient chillout room: dj roo (cincy) lasers by JNA FREE SMARTBAR by jennbug L I V E A C T: f(x) InfoLine/Directions: 617.283.1944 or 617.283.2678 or e-mail vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 11 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 552 - 8940 KICK IT! On Friday March 11th, 1994, Special K Productions, of Philly, will present KICK IT! (215) 552-8940 Dj's upstairs will be: MICRO SOUL SLINGER JASON JINX FRANKIE RYDE WINK NIGEL RICHARDS KARL K KAOS Dj's downstairs will be: DALE CHARLES KING BRITT TONY PEGAS DOZIA BOY BLAKE OKEEFE [The event will take place in Downtown Philly in an excellent space, chances are you have never been in this place before, but if you have, you will be glad to return. There will be an aftahours put on by Philly's own T.H.C. Productions (215)-523-4339. Already confirmed for the aftahours are Wink and King Britt with a tag-team assault, a rare event not to be missed. There is no need to add any hype to the info on this party. The line-up and the production crew speak for themselves. Special K Productions are Keith and Kevin, formerly of BigFunHouse. You can read their column in Slurp!, the phattest zine around on the scene(the next issue should come out mid-march, perhaps just in time for red). You will not want to miss this party, it will be a quality event with an even higher quality vibe. It will be the best event going on in Philly untill the much awaited return of a H.E.R.E. party. In case you weren't there, and you probably weren't, the H.E.R.E. parties are right between catastrophic and storm in the book of rave history. When Wink and his gang return with H.E.R.E. later this spring, you will not want to be anywhere else. andy c.] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 576 - 2520 FUTURE GROOVE sashay@phantom.com ...presented by MikeM & Spam, Astralwerks, and the Island Vibe Crew... Main Room DJ's: Micro - Caffeine/Sorted Records Sameer - Caffeine/Essence Reese - Astralwerks Brian Walters - Digitek Osheen - Rhode Island/Renegade Records dieselBoy - Pittsburgh/Momentum Omar - Long Island Outlaw Focus - Long Island Underground Quest - ZYX Records New Talent DJs: Oz - Waltham, Mass WILL-E - NYC C.Mellow - Boston Tiff - VA/DC G-Money - NJ Slant - DC/VA (Fever New DJ Finalist) Panik - Philly DJ Mars - Jersey Sprockett - Boston Kari & Dennis - Westchester, NY (Boardwalk) ...plus more New Talent DJs TBA Admission is $10 Long Island locations to be announced 24 hours prior to event. To recieve a Future Groove flyer send address to sashay@phantom.com (and "cc:" to caffeine@cyberspace.net) If anyone needs crash space for the party email to the same adressses above. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK 4 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 19 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT 3 Spiritual Movement 3 will be happening on March 19th. The location will be fully legal and fire inspected. The DJ line-up: Neuromancer Micro DJ Sun Jason Jinx Scott Henry Richie Hawtin Moby Lasers by Pawn Stiltwalkers Gyrobix and Visuals by Psylicybin For more info, contact Modern Music at (410)523-1882 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Current info-> Boston: 617-541-4258 NYC: 212-631-4290 DJs: Darren Emerson (UK, Underworld) Tin Tin (UK) Joeski Armand Bruno 333 MGee Sameer Ride Onionz. more info to come _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 2 CONNECTICUT (???) ??? - ???? EQUILIBRIUM United Techno presents: EQUILIBRIUM APRIL 2 CT James Christian, Jimmy Crash, Troposphere, Ryde, Happy, Frankie Bones, Micro, Mr. Trash, Joeski, Space Ace, Scott Richmond _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 JERSEY SHORE (908) 229 - 2946 THE FORTRESS "T H E F O R T R E S S" Saturday, April 9th 3 sound systems, 2 chill-out rooms DJ's: Hell Psychotrope Download XTC Blackout Denard Gee Money Mars Time: Midnight - Dawn [More info to come] Location in Jersey Shore area and will be announced day before event via the info line... INFO: (908) 229 - 2946 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME PLASMA1000@aol.com On April 9, 1994, Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Energizer, Sandman, Plasma and Apple present: PLEASUREDOME94. Live PA's Baby Ford 1.8.7. DJ's Colin Faver Dave Angel Keoki Dmitry Jason Jinx King Britt James Christian On-e Gerret Frerrich Who Sun Mr Kleen Lee Speed Demon Greg Sargent Odyssy Kieth Kennebeck Karl Matthews Sketti Bobble LG Double 07 Deitrich Robby Dyno Acid Trevor Lamont Reese Tiff This event will take place in three areas under one massive roof at a venue that is completely new, 100% legal and 100% pleasure. If anybody is interested in vending, promoting, running bus trips or would like their info line on the flyer, please call 410.347.1460. But hurry, flyers are going to print next week. (A DC line is upcomming.) Comments and suggestions can also be left at: PLASMA1000@aol.com. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN by KC and the Sunrise Gang _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 2 + 3 @ GSC1@Lehigh.Edu [rescheduled and combined with Timewarp 2, DJ lineup TBA] 10p.m. - ??? ARENA 1: Confirmed Adam X, Jimmy Crash, geoffE v. Jeffee breakbeat battle, Ikon plus more... ARENA 2: Confirmed Wink, Goodwill, Scott Richmond, Miko plus more... ARENA 3: Ambient heaven with Ursol(San Francisco) and Lazlo(Portland, Oregon) plus more... ARENA 4: The best up-and-coming DJ's spin an hour set each. Want to be a part, send tapes to geoffE before Feb. 28! DJ's chosen will be announced at flyer press time!!! Intelligent lighting - Video Projections - UNITY INFO. (610)433-0503 or e-mail GSC1@Lehigh.Edu Mail tapes to geoffE 12 W. 4th St. Bethlehem, PA 18015 RE: T3 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com ULTRAVIOLET ULTRAVIOLET in conjunction with Primary productions DJs: Scott Henry Dj Sun Who Greg Seargent 3 3 3 M Gee Osheen Debo Joeski w/JOESKI at the after hours tix will most likely be $13, the event will be in baltimore times: 10 pm - 8 am with a free afterhours at the reel chill spot. make sure you are dressed appropriately for the black light theme! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 00:35:22 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: future parties? That would be great, actually. I hope to meet some netters at fantasy project and future groove. Will you be there? --dan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 23:55:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: fantasy project hello c-tribe >>>>>>>>> i'm planning on being at F.P. this weekend (with dietrich).. so, i'd love to meet some of you that i havne' met before.. we should definitely pick a spot to meet there.. or before.. looking forward to it! peace. >>taylor.808 __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 20:19:38 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: red flyers and more In-Reply-To: <9403020048.AA15134@sutro.SFSU.EDU> i too would like a copy of the red flyer...but for you dearest becca...you can probably haul butt down to music *fuck me* now and get a stackful...and while you are there could you pick me up a bunch too...just promotin' those killa dc techno store...wheeee partyon...susie(: On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, Rebecca A. Cochran wrote: > I too would like to get a couple of RED flyers. I have a friend in Australia th > at wants me to pass one along to him. So if I could get two that would be reall > y cool. :) Thanks! > send replies to RC3116a@american.edu and I will give you my snail address. > BeccaMD :) > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 23:15:44 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: First Techno Experience Well back in 1990 I was big into shortwave radio and I would stay up all night long in search of ever distance stations and the unusual. One evening I happened to pick up a pirate (illegal) station operating out of England playing this strange but awesome music (I later found out the song was Android by The Prodigy). It would be another year before techno finally became readily availble here so I had no clue as to how to get my hands on it. Then James Brown is Dead hit and everyone was techno this, techno that. Around the same time a DJ from England and a friend of mine (Deadly Buda) started throwing small underground parties here in Pitttsburgh, the parties gradually got bigger and more DJ's were added such as dieselBoy and Soji-Fu. It should be noted at this time both of the last two DJ's I mentioned were throwing small parties in many unconventional spaces such as the basement of a huge house, a warehouse loft above a soup kitchen, a dance studio downtown above a wig store, a parking lot in the center of town and many others. The first "raves" in Pittsburgh were thrown in fire halls and an abandoned movie theatre which they were trying to renovate (and is now a yuppie coffeehouse). Anyway that's when I was bitten with the bug. |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:55:37 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: METHOD ONE - "FUNCTIONAL" avalible soon! In-Reply-To: <199403020017.TAA00406@umd5.umd.edu> ~ On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, secret agent mellow wrote: > > > - 8 tracks: 6 originals and two remixes by 187 (industrial strength UK) and > > joe is signed to industrial strength? or is this a different 187? > > chris > > > -- Yes and no. Yes it is me and no I am not formally signed yet. Lenny and I just have a verbal agreement at this point. Hopefully something will come of it. Any thing that states categorically that I have been signed is nothing but early hype. Keep your eyes and ears open though. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:23:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Future Groove Info... In-Reply-To: <199403011757.MAA03540@umd5.umd.edu> Gads, look at all the DJs... I'm going to have to be in multitasking mode to keep track of everyone. Any idea about what time everyone is playing? Reason I ask is that I'll be at Future Groove, but I have to be at my friend's naming ceremony for his daughter the next day. This will be at 11 AM. So, I either go early and leave early, or arrive late and stay awake. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 23:50:22 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: future parties? > mistress loretta and i were wondering how everyone would feel if we put up > a sign saying something like,"cybertribe members", or something like that. I think makes boku sense. Saves time and makes life easier in general! :) Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================ [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre \ "God is like a big / HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College / shiny man" \ HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY \ Fr. Jamros / HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ 14208-1045 / Rel. Studies Teacher \ ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM ] [------------------\-------------------------/---------------------------] \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 22:06:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: METHOD ONE - "FUNCTIONAL" avalible soon! ieve that joe (187) is signed to indudtrial strength uk.... (i believe that is) :) -j ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:59:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES In-Reply-To: <9403011909.AA11601@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Mel-zo-rama" at Mar 1, 94 2:08 pm > > Hmmmmmm...this might seem funny....the way I first heard techno was Lords > of Acid....an exboyfriend of mine, when we were first dating would have a > little bit to drive me back home...and he'd play techno and industrial.... > a lot of times, Lords of Acid were on by the time we got back home and > sometimes we'd be "making out" to LOA........my first taste [so to speak] > of techno. > > Mel > NOT STRANGE at all.....I got into it the same way ....ye good 'ole Lords of Acid (now defunked I hear?)....My sister was borrowing a tape from a friend of hers.. .I loved it.....and then began to groove *;> ......and it's all a dream from then on!!!! Funny thing is my sister isn't even into techo/rave parties at all!!! although I'm gonna try to get her to go with me to FUtuRe Groove this weekend.... laters and love See ya saturday Hossam, Damian, Chris Mellow, Neith, and all others.... Ohh ....and if anyone is passing through southern Connecticut on I-95 could I possibly get a ride????? please!!!!! Love ya NEd!(Snappleboy!) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Mar 1994 21:04:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Not rave related.... I need to take an emergency trip to Richmond, VA this weekend....but need a hotel [for reservations] by tomorrow at 5 at the latest....only all the ones I've called are book for some race or something....does ANYONE know any hotels..or could look them up in a phone book for me..PLEASE mail me... Melzie aka Dead Peach ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 00:57:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: Not rave related.... In-Reply-To: <9403020551.AA23647@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Mel-zo-rama" at Mar 1, 94 9:04 pm You may be able to find someone who goes to University of Richmond....how about that for an idea you sweet coconut you!!! NEd! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 03:54:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES In-Reply-To: <199403020746.CAA06783@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 1 Mar 1994, unknown wrote: > > > > Hmmmmmm...this might seem funny....the way I first heard techno was Lords > > of Acid....an exboyfriend of mine, when we were first dating would have a > > little bit to drive me back home...and he'd play techno and industrial.... > > a lot of times, Lords of Acid were on by the time we got back home and > > sometimes we'd be "making out" to LOA........my first taste [so to speak] > > of techno. > > > > Mel > > > NOT STRANGE at all.....I got into it the same way ....ye good 'ole Lords of Acid > (now defunked I hear?)....My sister was borrowing a tape from a friend of hers.. > .I loved it.....and then began to groove *;> ......and it's all a dream from > then on!!!! > > Funny thing is my sister isn't even into techo/rave parties at all!!! although > I'm gonna try to get her to go with me to FUtuRe Groove this weekend.... > > laters and love > > Heh...my first techno was a tape I found on a bus; its still one of my favorite. It all became better from there. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:31:12 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? i said in Europe, generally. Of course Holland still lovbe gabba (hey, do ya heard about Rotterdam city? ;*) but as far as i know, England don't listen a lot this music and germany (well, there are still some gabba dj's there) has its own hardcore (german hardcore:) which is less bassy, very speedy and acid. My opinion :) psyched ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 06:07:29 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Future Groove misunderstandings >I'm gonna try to get her to go with me to FUtuRe Groove this weekend.... >See ya saturday Hossam, Damian, Chris Mellow, Neith, and all others.... Why have I seen SOOOOO many posts to NE-Raves referring to Future Groove as if it were *this* weekend, rather than *next* weekend? According to all info I have, it is *next* weekend, the 12th. Are the flyers printed differently or something? --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 03:01:50 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: trippin' east well it is about time to start planning that spring break...and i figured why not go to red...so i will fly into boston probably march 25th and go to red and hang for a few more daze to see the sites...so i am wondering if anyone can provide some crash space and a ride to red? and would anyone know a place i could celebrate passover on the 27th?...i would really appreciate it...and can recipricate when one comes to san francisco...(: then i shall venture back down to down to d.c....to visit the beloved dcravers!!!! yeah! and will stay with doug... so i want to meet some of you new neravers and dcravers... partyon...susie(: ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 09:48:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "U.F.Orb" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "U.F.Orb" Subject: Re: trippin' east In-Reply-To: <199403021120.GAA20622@umd5.umd.edu> from "Susan R. Kameny" at Mar 2, 94 03:01:50 am > well it is about time to start planning that spring break...and i figured > why not go to red...so i will fly into boston probably march 25th and go > to red and hang for a few more daze to see the sites...so i am wondering YEAHYEAHYEAHYEAH!!!! I haven't been raving since yellow, so being at RED is gonna be all the better... Hope to see you there... as far as crash space, I have a floor and a couch that collapses when you sleep on it :-) plus I have a car that is joining me to RED... -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOrbital ToriAmoSmithereenSarahBrightmaNirvana ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 10:36:22 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: first techno experience my first techno experience was at a rave that was supposed to be huge, but the weather was near-hurricane, and many people didn't come to it. it was held in a college cafeteria, and it SLAMMED!!! i first heard and saw techno that night. YES, you read me right. the DJs played the VIDEOS of all the techno they played. PURE VIDEO EXTRAVEGANZA! the screen was approx 20 feet diagonal, and the lasers were intense. anyone looking to get the videos to all the techno songs you like??? i hear that there's a bunch of places in europe that sell them for a loxation in the US, look around, you'll find 'em if you look hard enough. UP-tempo! 1000 P.S. Human Resource's "Dominator" has a bitchin' video... for all those that have never seen it. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:09:25 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: 9mm!!!!!!!!!! my 9mm!!!!!! my 9mm!!!!!!!!!!! this has been bugging me for a year!!! i am at the edge of sanity! can anybody help me??!?!?!?!!!?!? i picked up a White Label of the song "9mm"... it goes "My 9mm and my 9 in my sneaker..." blah blah blah... etc. the record HAS NO LABEL! does any kind soul out there know who does the song? please help because i need to purchase a replacement copy. someone told me that it was *) 80AUM that did the song, but i am not sure. help.... please....? UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:32:02 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan English Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan English Subject: red-the whole dj list i dont have time in my busy schedule to type all the info, but i finally got a RED flyer last night so heres ythe dj list: darren emerson (UK) frankie bones guy dmc fabio pars (junior boys own) scott henry tiga tin tin 333 debo ONIONZ m-gee sameer armand osheen ryde joeski bruno troposhphere interchill entity soul slinger mr. kleen king brit jazzy nice (giant step) 10pm-10am royal plaza trade center, fitchburg 15.oo till 3/10 20.00 till 3/23 25.oo day of (617) 499-7765 (212) 886-5421 sorry, i cant mail you any flyers. see you all there, -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 11:27:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: trippin' east Hey susie (and others)...the Insmonia guys are planning an event here in Richmond April 2nd...and it's NOT at NiteWorld (YAH!) as of now...I'll keep ya informed but I don't think there's anything happening in DC that weekend so hopefully we'll see ya there. later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:32:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Thanks! Thanks, all, for the great birthday wishes! For those of you who asked about presents, I am now wearing the super cool chamois-cloth shirt from L.L. Bean and carrying the romantically engraved keychain and lighter that Eileen (with whom I'm droolingly in love) gave me. (She is also throwing a small birthday party for me, the first one I've had since I was 7.) Thanks again... -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 12:38:36 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: red flyers and more > you can probably haul butt down to music *fuck me* now and get a > stackful...and while you are there could you pick me up a bunch > too...just promotin' those killa dc techno store...wheeee You happen to know the address of Music Now? Is it in DC? I'm trying to fing a good place to get good shit when I'm back in DC for Spring Break... PLUR ApOcAlYpSe /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================ [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre \ "God is like a big / HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College / shiny man" \ HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY \ Fr. Jamros / HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ 14208-1045 / Rel. Studies Teacher \ ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM ] [------------------\-------------------------/---------------------------] \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:08:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: NYC ravers' help appreciated What's up all.....if any of you are from New York City, I'm wondering if you could tell me about clubs and records stores in the city. I'llprobably be there March 19-27 or so....please help me... thanks!! casper ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 13:10:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , johnnyt123 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: NJ goings on Hi- It's always great finding others in Central NJ. Terence mentioned a microrave in Princeton, but nothing concrete yet. Have you been to Planet X Records in New Brunswick? I highly recommend it. Johnny T. AOL: JohnnyT123 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:52:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: Future Groove misunderstandings In-Reply-To: <9403021108.AA21154@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Michael J Minnich" at Mar 2, 94 6:07 am > > >I'm gonna try to get her to go with me to FUtuRe Groove this weekend.... > >See ya saturday Hossam, Damian, Chris Mellow, Neith, and all others.... > > Why have I seen SOOOOO many posts to NE-Raves referring to Future Groove > as if it were *this* weekend, rather than *next* weekend? According to > all info I have, it is *next* weekend, the 12th. > > Are the flyers printed differently or something? > > > --- > Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu > [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] > NO I'm just retarted....I thought for som reason that it was this comming weekend....but in fact you're right....Everything I have says that it is on the 12th......I should be there.....NEd!(Snappleboy!) I'll bring as much Snapple as I can afford ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:00:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:10:01 WET-DST from On Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:10:01 WET-DST Dave Angel's faN!! said: >well, in my opinion, gabber is more noise and simple to create than other music >style. Now, in Europe, gabba is less played as 2 years ago, because of the >german hardcore who's less bass and more trancy (hey, 303 are better than >stupid dutch vocals saying: 'you're a sucker!' :-) > psyched - SaY thAnkS tO thE GoD DaVE ANgEL! As with any type of techno, there is good stuff and bad stuff. It's not hard to find good gabber, and it's definitely not hard to spin a good, quality, hard gabber set without being too cheesy and without offending anyone -- except for the closed minded, of course. Yes, I'll admit that a lot of acid sounds more intricate than a lot of gabber, but if you think of it, is a repetitive acid line really that much harder to program and play than a crazy sounding (and a well layered) gabber kick line? I don't think so. Check out stuff by Sigma 909, Reyes, Neophyte, and Short Circuit if you want proof. The big reason that I spin more gabber than german hardcore is that in general german hardcore doesn't have the crazy sounding bass kicks. A lot of gabber, on the other hand, sure as hell does have crazy acid in it. You can find a lot of excep- tions, like the new Zekt "Nuclear Indicator," which in my opinion is crazy phat, but the rule still holds. By the way, throughout all of this we're forgetting about the stuff coming out of Brooklyn. Industrial Strength is certainly one of the most consistent hard labels in my opinion. If you haven't already heard it, then pick up what I think is definitely one of the best 12"s out (it came out in December, I think) for good domestic hardcore: Bloodstrike, by Spy. Spy, this 12" is seriously one of the best that I've ever heard. Peace, even through hardcore Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:23:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: 9mm!!!!!!!!!! my 9mm!!!!!! my 9mm!!!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 02 Mar 1994 11:09:25 -0400 NINE IS A CLASSIC.... ACE the space not to be confused with the SWEDISH group Ace of Base DOes this help you... Brings back an old sound doesn't it>? TOM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 15:21:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@IUP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: Re: future parties? >other. we would post it near our table at any events we set up at. how does >everyone feel about this? yes, no, maybe, ideas? >thanx alot...peaz out...peppermint patty:) YES YES YES!! i went to momentum this weekend... and i had the darndest time finding any of my "computer friends". it would be wonderful if someone would be at every event, leading us to our friends... :) Jsquared made us little netraver tags that helped... oh well... plur michelle ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 17:26:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Zoomin' into spring.. In-Reply-To: <199402210142.UAA29444@umd5.umd.edu> Well, the spring issue of ZooM is almost done so I just thought that I would just repost the address(es) where you can find the latest issue... Right now you can find ZooM at any of these great locations: vinalmania in nyc modern music in washington dc music now in maryland 611 records in philadelphia planet x in new jersey or you can e-mail me to find out how to order zoom through the mail...just e-mail me at: smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ** Hope to see you all next week at Future Groove :) *** Thanks for your help and support all :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 16:39:50 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: NJ goings on Well...we did have a few microraves, so those were concrete. We will be doing another one when we can safely emerge from the cold & work (beginning May), and that's just as concrete! I'll post when appropriate the date :) Terence3 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:40:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Projects by the wayside :^( Hello everyone, Browsing through what I could salvage of my old mail the other day (both electronic and paper varieties) I came across a bunch of good ideas that more some reason or another seem to have kinda fallen by the wayside of late. I was wondering if anyone on the list is still interested in doing these things and if anyone else has been working on them on the side, perhaps. They are: (1) The TechnoPolis list: seeing as Laura La Gassa, the driving force behind the TNP list moved to California, the project has been inactive. If anyone is capable, both time and computer resource-wise, to start this up again, I think it'd be a good thing for everyone on the list in the NYC area, as the list was intended to be originally. (2) The TechnoPolis Guide to the Internet: in preparation for the ill-fated Alchemy party put on by TNP, a few of us decided to put together a small pamphlet-type publication to distribute to people at parties. The idea behind this was essentially to provide a serviceable introduction to the CyberTribe, it's reasons for existence, it's implications, how to get on the Net etc. etc. Though we did get as far as a few paragraphs, I'm afraid to report that this is also seemingly on hold. (3) CyberTribe logo and T-Shirts: Sometime last fall, there was a big furor across the net about a CyberTribe (vs. 'Net-Raver') logo, ultimately leading up to a T-shirt. What became of this? The last I heard was that someone had designed a logo (David Darrow?) and had even made a T-shirt, but I'm not sure of either of these statements. Can someone shed some light on this? (4) The MultiMedia RaveMap: this started off as a somewhat fanciful and fun little project involving a map of the USA (or World) where the user would click on various parts of the map, and it would show pics, clips, samples etc. of events that were held in those places. Specifically, the RaveMap would focus on 'weird places' to have a rave eg. under bridges, on air- craft carriers, in a sewer, at the bottom of a well etc. :) :) There was talk of making this a WWW/Mosaic project, though from what I understand (which isn't a lot, but that's okay) this would preclude a good section of the group from accessing the project (right?). (5) NE-Raves and CyberTribe badges: The last I heard, Dan and Becca were on the ball with this, but were having trouble finding a laminator, correct? How about mailing the completed badge innards (?) to someone who knows a local laminator, and just have them finish it off? This way, at least we'll get the badge pipeline moving again. Okay? Enough phun, phat projects to keep everyone busy for the year? :^) Let's get to work, gang, and make this year even better than '93!! Love ya all, - FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 00:25:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: HOM!!!!! Two friends and I would love to ride with any wonderful raver who would like to drive us to and from FUTURE GROOVE. We are livin in a suburb of Philly, and would love a ride. We'd be willing to split for gas, etc. Remember that KICK IT is in Philly on the night before FUTURE GROOVE and I am able to give out some crash space... (crash space available even if you don't give us a ride :) So anyway, please, please, please give us a little ride to and from LI. We'd give you a big SMOOCH. See ya, Love, Matt ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:47:01 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Comet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Comet Subject: Hi! I'm going to be visiting Boston. Hello, I'll be in the Boston area from March 10 until March 19. I'm planning on visiting Salem, while I'm in Massachusetts. If you can get Phoenix and me on any guest lists for raves, I'll be grateful. Also, please e-mail me with any suggestions on things-to-see, places-to-go, people-to-meet, etc. Thanks! -------- Comet 437 Wessex Way Belmont, CA 94002-2757 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 23:13:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: P-909 @ pleasure dome hello everyone! i just found out that we, PROTOTYPE 909, are playing at Pleasure Dome on april 9th... i think joe (187) is playing too.. and of course.. acidhouse god Baby Ford.. so, come support your net musicians! we'll be going on i think around midnight or 1ish.. and playing for a half hour... hopefully we''ll see you there! peacelove >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 00:54:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GORDON@PHYSICS.CARLETON.CA Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GORDON@PHYSICS.CARLETON.CA Subject: first techno experience I came across techno music through what most people would consider an unlikely route. I was into death metal for years until I came across Malhavoc and Fear Factory. At first I thought Malhavoc and Fear Factory were crap because they used computerized drums and sampled basslines. (There's this stupid metalhead thingie that dictates an extreme bias against anything that is not mindless string scratching and relentless skin pounding :( ). Malhavoc and Fear Factory would be categorized as techno/thrash metal cross over - ie. techno music with distorted guitars. After listening to it for a while, I started to like it more and started to get more and more into techno music, in particular hardcore. After playing in various death metal and punk rock bands for years, I kind of grew disillusioned with those particular scenes. One time I decided to check out a rave to see what it was like. (From the guys I hung out with in the punk scene, most of them thought raves were for stoned fratboys). It turned out to be a lot different than my preconcieved conception of a "bunch of stoned fratboys from hell" party. I got hooked ever since. :) :) One thing I noticed was that there wasn't the xenophobic "us against them" kind of mentality that I found prevailent in the punk rock scene. At thrash and punk gigs, I use to go slamdancing all the time. Most of the time there would always be some goofs who would always try to start fights in the pit for no reason. (I've got my head beaten in a few times over several of these sort of incidents) :( . At raves I've been to, I rarely see any fights. The rave scene came as a big surprise to me with all the positivity and PLUR associated with it, unlike the thrash and punk scenes where it was a contest to see who could kill who (ie. dog eat dog) :(. I kinda wished I gotten into the scene years earlier. :) :) Gord C. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /\ _ /\ / \ /||----- ------- /|| | | / \ |\ / \ / || | / || | | / \ | \ / \/ ||___ | / || | | | | \ / || | /---|| | | | |---\ / || | / || | | \ / | \ / ||----- | / ||_____ |_____ | \_/ | \ / \ / / METAL UP YOUR ASS \ \ \/ \/ KILL'EM ALL ... RIDE THE LIGHTNING HONESTY'S MY ONLY EXCUSE ... TRY TO ROB US OF IT BUT IT'S NO USE!!! - DAMAGE INCORPORATED (INTERNET: GORDON@PHYSICS.CARLETON.CA) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:55:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Microrave at Wellesley Could whoever is in charge please post the address/directions etc. again? I accidentally deleted the info while cleaning out my very jammed mailbox. Thanks! weien@pageworks.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:27:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Re: future parties? In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 1 Mar 1994 18:59:44 -0500 from Sounds cool to me, Patty :) In fact I thought that this would be a good idea some time ago, like perhaps have an Cybertribe drop-site (which usually happens anyway) with a little 'NE-RAVES HERE' sign or something, so that newbies can scope us out at big events. - FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 22:46:28 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: cloud nine hey folks...=) i was reading "urb magazine" and stumbled upon a cool add that was about this "revolutionary new drug," which wasn't really a drug, but derived from natural herbs and stuff. so, being the curious druggie i am, i ordered 10(the minimunm they sent out) at 12 bucks a pop. well, i got em last week and tried one out on saturday...but well, i mixed other substances in and didn't really know what i was experiencing... but i stat red geting doubtful... so today, i woke up and before lunch i took two "cloud 9" pills, to see what they felt like without combining other substances and outside of a place with lasers, music, and shit that usually gets me all excited anyways... well,(you're supposed to take these on an empty stomach) these pills do provide a rush. i felt like i was on speed, or mini-thins, or half a tab of acid. it was a feeling like i was going to pass-out all day. =) (i did eat lunch, later on). i guess these would be cool at a club or rave, but i think you'd get the same feeling from ephidrine. almost exactly the same, except cloud 9 seems a little friendlier to the body. i don't think it's worth the money, though, especially when i don't have such money to spend, though i did...go figure? i don't think it's similar to *e* at all, but it could also depend on the setting....hmmmm. has anyone else tried it? it may vary with each person... but i'm really curious to know how it is with others... just thought you guys would like to know about this "new drug". =) (um, it lasts a long time, though, about 10 hours now, and sometimes i think i'm seeing some visuals...but that's prob. wishful thinkin' =>) =D slurp =) harry... vibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibevibeon ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:16:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: futeure parties! it looks like everyone is down with a sign saying cybertribe, or something like that!:) we will be setting up our snoKone booth at the fantasy project and at red as of now, any other times, we will post it! thankx!!:) just look for our booth and introduce yourself!! don't forget, all cybertribe members get a free snoKone! see you then!!:) peaz out...peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 03:04:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Technopolis Guide 2 Internet <;))>< (2) The TechnoPolis Guide to the Internet: in preparation for <;))>< the ill-fated Alchemy party put on by TNP, a few of us <;))>< decided to put together a small <;))>< pamphlet-type publication to distribute to people at <;))>< parties. The idea behind this was essentially to <;))>< provide a serviceable introduction to the <;))>< CyberTribe, it's reasons for existence, it's implications, <;))>< how to get on the Net etc. etc. <;))>< Though we did get as far as a few paragraphs, I'm <;))>< afraid to report that this is also seemingly on hold. As those of U who were on Technopolis know, I was the editor of this Guide. After Laura packed up and moved 2 SF a couple of days after Alchemy was canceled, Technopolis stopped, and so did the work on The Guide. I'm willing 2 re-assume the position of editor :) but ne-raves is too big a list 2 be used as a bulletin board 4 The Guide's assembly! We are going 2 have 2 do most of our communication through private email, with only occasional posts 2 this list. If anyone is interested in writing or doing artwork 4 The Guide, please write me at 59953336@MCImail.com PEACE OUT :) MARK P.S. Fish made many good points on various other projects. Perhaps, Hazard or whoever is going create that "Introduction To Ne-Raves" (the one that Dan is planning 2 introduce 2 us every two weeks ;) can also mention things like badges, shirts & The Guide. I LOVE U ALL!! (yep all 256 of U :D That's 10000000 in binary!) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:13:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Introduction piece.. My only problem with this presentation is that I call from America Online, and you can't send mail with nothing in the subject field. So if I wanted to pause mail (nomail) then I couldn't. Perhaps this ca n be changed... I didn't notice any other screwups. % % %% %%% % % < % %% % % % % % < %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation % % % % % % % < %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 19:26:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES Yeah the techno experiences thing is a good idea. Actually, the first time I heard techno was while waiting for the industrial music program on a local college station... I couldn't stand it. At the time I only liked heavy guitars and music like Skinny Puppy and Ministry etc. Since I have discovered Ambient and Trance, I have broadened my views and have acquired a taste that outdoes my previous passion for i ndustrial (which I still listen to but not to the extent that I listen to techno). > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 04:14:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: NYC ravers' help appreciated In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 02 Mar 94 13:08:33 -0500. <9403021809.AA20734@MIT.EDU> I have a list of stores in NYC. When you come over Friday, I'll show it to you. Later. Jimmy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:50:40 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: DErave hello. i posted 2 weeks ago a mail saying the Derave (german techno listserv) was near its end. Well, now, it seems quite ok. The admin of it has changed mail- server. So, if you would like *info* about the german raves/clubs/radio/shops email to: derave-request@myplanet.tue.sub.org SUBSCRIBE DERAVE l8er psyched # molari@eig.unige.ch ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 06:12:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM-2 **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** please mail any changes to melzie@wam.umd.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 5 FANTASY PROJECT Upstate, NY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Jenn-Bug [BUS TRIP FROM PA] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 11 JETTA'S PARTY Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-Bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 11 KICK IT Philli, PA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jenn-Bug smed8781@smed.csv.kutztown.edu [CRASH SPACE] munterma@acc.haverford.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 12 FUTURE GROOVE LI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ned aka Chuck aka Buluga [NEEDS RIDE-WESTPORT] buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu Matt aka DJ Fresh Blood [NEEDS RIDE -2 -RI] stooo912@brownvm.brown.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 26 RED Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seuss [OFFER RIDE-RI] petelis@eerie.acsu.cc.buffalo.edu Jason Bilsky [OFFER SPACE] fuzzbox@world.std.com Jmc [CRASH SPACE FOR 5] jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Sprokett [OFFER CRASH SPACE-2] kumquat@acs.bu.edu Hwyman [most amazing person :)] hwyman@wam.umd.edu John aka DJ Entox djentox@aol.com Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP FROM PA] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut melzie@wam.umd.edu Neith! [TAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRE-PARTY] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday. March 26 MOMENTUM Lexingtin, KY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [NEEDS RIDE-MD] RC3116A@american.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 4 PLEASURE DOME Washington, DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [NEEDS RIDE-MD] RC3116A@american.edu Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP-PA SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 09:25:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: Hi! I'm going to be visiting Boston. I'm Gonna be just 5 min. from salem from mar 5-14. email me the # there and I'll give you a call. There's gonna be a microrave on the 11th so maybe we can all go. Try and reply be-4 friday at 9am ok? thanks -Dave 607-275-8125 <--- until tommorow at 9am ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:16:45 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Hey, I saw the new HOM this week, and I wanted to say that my DJ name is Fresh Blend, not Fresh Blood, and that my email address is , meaning there are three zeros between t and 9, not three o's. By the way, I still need a ride. Thanks Peace, Matt DJ Fresh BLEND ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 10:38:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199403031535.KAA10744@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 3 Mar 1994, Matt wrote: > Hey, > I saw the new HOM this week, and I wanted to say that my DJ name is Fresh > Blend, not Fresh Blood, and that my email address is > , meaning there are three zeros between t and 9, > not three o's. *BLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!!! I'm sooooooo sorry :( Mel aka making a public apology ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 14:43:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: red-the whole dj list Is fabio pars THE Fabio, as in the UK darkness DJ? If so, I'm psyched! -Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 11:57:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: future parties? In-Reply-To: <9403030933.AA15701@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Rishad J. Quazi" at Mar 2, 94 9:27 pm > Sounds cool to me, Patty :) > > In fact I thought that this would be a good idea some time ago, like perhaps > have an Cybertribe drop-site (which usually happens anyway) with a little > 'NE-RAVES HERE' sign or something, so that newbies can scope us out at big > events. > > - FiSH I think that the sign should stay...."Cybertribe"....simply because it may not only be NE-Ravers at the event.....I know of quite a few D.C/NE/SE ravers that made it to MOMENTUM....in the mid-west.. NEd! P.S.: Could someone make such a sign for Future Groove???? I might be going on my own...(hopefully not....A RIDE ANYONE??? FROM CT?) love u all.....and SNAPPLES FOR ALL CYBERTRIBE @ FUTURE GROOVE!!!!!! NEd! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 13:36:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jiMmy f Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jiMmy f Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/1/94) In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 2 Mar 1994 00:43:53 -0500 from is anyone headed to Pleasure Dome? will be coming from cleveland. have car an d cash. willing to give rides on the way. if anyone has more info on P.D. let me know. thanks jiMmy f ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 14:56:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kasson Crooker Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kasson Crooker SUBDISCUSS ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:22:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: red flyers and more In-Reply-To: <199403021818.NAA04910@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Apocalypse wrote: > > you can probably haul butt down to music *fuck me* now and get a > > stackful...and while you are there could you pick me up a bunch > > too...just promotin' those killa dc techno store...wheeee > > You happen to know the address of Music Now? Is it in DC? I'm trying to > fing a good place to get good shit when I'm back in DC for Spring Break... > > PLUR > > ApOcAlYpSe > > Not sure of the address, but by our wonderful public transit system, take the Metro to Gallery Place metro station, its like a block from there. ohh, wait i have something with the address..lets see...ahh Musicnow Records/Musicnow International Lieven de Geyndt President 806 F St., NW Washington, DC 2 0 0 0 4 Tel: 202.638.1213 Fax: 202.628.1225 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:26:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: Zoomin' into spring.. In-Reply-To: <199403030601.BAA27748@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 2 Mar 1994, Jennifer J. Smeddy wrote: > Well, the spring issue of ZooM is almost done so I just thought that > I would just repost the address(es) where you can find the latest issue... > > Right now you can find ZooM at any of these great locations: > > vinalmania in nyc > modern music in washington dc > music now in maryland > 611 records in philadelphia > planet x in new jersey > Err...Modern Music is in baltimore, md. :D peazout ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:32:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: future parties? In-Reply-To: <199403031715.MAA27776@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 3 Mar 1994, unknown wrote: > > Sounds cool to me, Patty :) > > > > In fact I thought that this would be a good idea some time ago, like perhaps > > have an Cybertribe drop-site (which usually happens anyway) with a little > > 'NE-RAVES HERE' sign or something, so that newbies can scope us out at big > > events. > > > > - FiSH > > I think that the sign should stay...."Cybertribe"....simply because it may not > only be NE-Ravers at the event.....I know of quite a few D.C/NE/SE ravers that > made it to MOMENTUM....in the mid-west.. > > NEd! > > P.S.: Could someone make such a sign for Future Groove???? I might be going > on my own...(hopefully not....A RIDE ANYONE??? FROM CT?) > > love u all.....and SNAPPLES FOR ALL CYBERTRIBE @ FUTURE GROOVE!!!!!! > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I'M THERE!!!!!! heh...is anyone from the DC area going up to Red or Future Groove that can offer me and possibly a friend a ride? I would be indebted to you forever. I'll pay my share of gas/tolls/etc, and will even pay for snapple along the way! peazout [dtripper@access.digex.net] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:00:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , AI3264@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: AI3264@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: Fantasy Project.... ....So who is going? are we gonna meet somewhere?....also I have room to bring 2 people from the Albany area or somewhere inbetween to the event.... SquiggleMan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:49:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: red-the whole dj list >Is fabio pars THE Fabio, as in the UK darkness DJ? If so, I'm psyched! > > -Jacob jacob and all, whats up? no fabio paras is not *the* fabio...:) hes a ministry of sound (london,uk) dj who spins housey/world beat type stuph..really cool sounding, but alas, it still aint breaks...;) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.091 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:50:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 94 02:02:20 -0500. <9402250703.AA12194@MIT.EDU> yessssssss Luke...give in to the dark side...and together, we shall rule the galaxy as father and son. me thinks krieg has been reading a bit of philosophy... i am glad that our truths are not the same, for if your reality was mine, i might not be as happy... shannon ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:54:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donald sparacin Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: donald sparacin SUBDISCUSS ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:03:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 94 02:02:20 -0500. <9402250703.AA12194@MIT.EDU> >stirring beyond the >bounds of our happy civilization that will never need to change >ever, our impoverished imagination not seeing a new dawn after >our setting sun, shall arise that next epoch. Even now, we see >in the horrors of ravages which Africa is convulsing in: can we >not see the next epoch there? Will finally a person come forth, >and esteem as has been? And place himself on the right, and >sweep all before him? Such as us decadents? Our pleasure has >become trite. too many "our"s and sarcasm in this bit for my taste... our civilization has no choice in the matter of change, my imagination is anything but impoverished (or by thinking so, have i proved krieg's theory?) and the prophetic piece at the end...sounds a bit like Marcus Garvey...and we all know what happened to Haili Salasi... my pleasure may be trite in your eyes, and yours in mine. but pleasure is the only reason for existence. the attaining of knowledge, wisdom, and experiences fall under my category of pleasures, along with the more immediate pleasures... shannon "the only reason i do the things that are not play, is so i can play." simple truths... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 16:32:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: back again and again and again . . . In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 26 Feb 94 11:25:00 -0500. <9402261641.AA29733@MIT.EDU> well said. sorry if i lent in continuing that thread. shannon ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 17:33:40 -0500 Reply-To: Michel Battaglia Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michel Battaglia Subject: Re: red-the whole dj list In-Reply-To: <199403031651.LAA24248@umd5.umd.edu> :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: crushin' On Wed, 2 Mar 1994 JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU wrote: > Is fabio pars THE Fabio, as in the UK darkness DJ? If so, I'm psyched! > > -Jacob > no..it's a typo..his name is Fabio paras and i believe is one of the residents at the Ministry of Sound in London. Also records under the name soundclash republic..i believe he spins house with a middle eastern/ world flavor. mikebee ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:16:06 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Motion Info Cybertribe: Outta Space Produtions presents... M O T I O N Friday, April 1st DJ line up to be announced next week. We're in the process of booking some good DJs. You'll hopefully be suprised. Jersey Shore location to be given out 24 hours before event Time: 10pm - ?? If you're interested in promoting, bus trips, etc. e-mail me at: a176@lehigh.edu For more info, call: (908)502-0660 Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 18:24:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: "The X-Files" Cybertribe: The Oral Posse Presents... "T H E X - F I L E S" Purveyors of the underground sound: Sal V G Money Mars Trap Pete Panik Zoey Styles Cost: $7 ($2 off if you're on the reduced guest list. call the info line for more details) 10pm-6am Every Thursday Night Location: Headquarters, 1201 Ocean Ave., Asbury Park, NJ Info and directions: (908)775 - 5501 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:19:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Motion Info Soundz like a g00dd deal... I'm very interested. call me at (703) 242-3779 I can spin trancecore, experimental core, hardcore, gabber, HARD azid, acid trance, and some ambient. Sincerely, The Sinizter Psychiatrist S p e e d D e m o n ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 19:20:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: p-909 @ Pleasure Dome Like T808 said, P909 will be in the house at Pleasure Dome. As you know, the DJ line up slams and it looks like it's going to be an awesome party. But if you've never see us, you're in for something different: Wether or not you like our recorded stuff, P909 LIVE is a unique experience. Instead of using back up tapes or computer sequencing, we actually program the gear (sh 101, tr 808, 909, 606 and tb 303 ect.) LIVE in REAL TIME!! on the fly as it were. This guarentees the unexpected, there WILL be mistakes, cool mistakes, wild free form improv! This is really LIVE techno, and I think you'll dig it. If you're goin, see you there.. If not, we'll tape it for you. Peace, Love and Live Acid! Jason ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:01:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: cybertribe drop site Not just a place to meet... but also name tags! Name tags with our names! Like I could walk around w ith, "Hello, My Name Is > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos L imited ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:05:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: p-909 @ Pleasure Dome In-Reply-To: <199403040051.TAA01102@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 3 Mar 1994, Jason Szostek wrote: > Like T808 said, P909 will be in the house at Pleasure Dome. > As you know, the DJ line up slams and it looks like > it's going to be an awesome party. > > But if you've never see us, you're in for something different: > Wether or not you like our recorded stuff, P909 LIVE is > a unique experience. > > Instead of using back up tapes or computer sequencing, we > actually program the gear (sh 101, tr 808, 909, 606 and tb 303 ect.) > LIVE in REAL TIME!! on the fly as it were. > This guarentees the unexpected, there WILL be mistakes, cool > mistakes, wild free form improv! > This is really LIVE techno, and I think you'll dig it. > > If you're goin, see you there.. > If not, we'll tape it for you. > > Peace, Love and Live Acid! > > Jason > Sounds like it'll be cool. Finally, another phat party actually in the DC area, instead of Baltimore, etc. I'll be there. Btw...who was doing NERAVES/DCRAVES badges? I mean, I'm willing to make some up if people haven't already.... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 20:18:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: back again. >too many "our"s and sarcasm in this bit for my taste... >our civilization has no choice in the matter of change, my imagination is >anything but impoverished (or by thinking so, have i proved krieg's theory?) please dont start krieg up again.. :) the fiend --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 15:01:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: Projects by the wayside :^( Fish said mentioned the "ill-fated" Technopolis party. I was home for winter break when the event was supposed to be happening, so I always wondered how it went. Did Alchemy end up happening? Just curious. Peace, Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 23:04:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Future Groove Cybertribe Reduced List Hey everybody, Im gonna have a special cybertribe reduced list for Future Groove. The reduced price is $7 instead of $10. If you would like to be placed on my list please send me your name (First and Last) and the names of any of your guests to caffeine@cyberspace.net when you come to the door you are gonna need to bring some form of ID to prove your identity. Hope to see you all there!!! ...chris (spam) *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Mar 1994 22:27:27 CST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , aaron stigberg Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: aaron stigberg Subject: Sorry about this but How do I subscribe to this list? The only reason I want to is because I want to know about raves in Toronto. If there is no discussion of UK Hardcore or the Toronto scene, just tell me, and I will not subscribe Sorry to bother you. Go on with your business. Aaron Stigberg of Chicago Hardcore Authority. sti3@midway.uchicago.edu "I wish I could live in the ambient dream, but I have to face reality." - Goldie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 01:09:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , rsgour Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: rsgour@AOL.COM Subject: Chaos Control Magazine Chaos Control, a Macintosh Hypercard music magazine, now has a new home. Issues 3-6 are now at cyberden.com, in the directory zines/Chaos_Control. For non-mac users, the text files are at world.std.com, directory obi/zines/Chaos.Control. Included in issue #6 are KMFDM, Cabaret Voltaire, Sect, One Dove, and more. The version at cyberden is a compact edition; there also a larger disk version with lots of hypertext and sound. It's available by sending $5 to Bob Gourley, 3 Greenville Dr., Barrington, RI, 02806, USA. Issue #7, due out in late March, will have interviews with The Orb, Autechre, The Other Two, DDT, and much more. For more info, email rsgour@aol.com or Rgour@world.std.com. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 02:41:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: HOM-2 In-Reply-To: <199403031113.GAA15277@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu> Plans have changed for me. I'll be in NYC Sat. March 26. I need a ride to Red. I going with one other person. Also, Sprokett, I'll take your offer on the crash space if your still offering. Is there a bus leaving for Red from NY, and if there is can I have the number. PEACE OUT! SEUSS:) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 15:16:56 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: i neeeed DEC email ad i'm sorry to use the ne listserv for this question (but YOU'R Americans :) - Anyone here knows DEC Email address?? I need it to have info about the VAX/VMS Mail Utility. Thanks psyched <--- he's sorry!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:01:06 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: NYC ravers' help appreciated GO TO LIQUID SKY!!! GO TO DISC-O-RAMA!!! RAVE ON!!! pay about 14 bucks and go to the Voodoo club in Deer pArk, Long Island on fridays take the LIRR to get there you MUST go to the Limelight!!! ROB GEE!!!! WHEEEEEEEE!!! more records??? ... try Vinylmania! UP-tempo! tell me how it went 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:15:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Selway Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? In-Reply-To: <9403012043.AA38760@brick.purchase.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 1, 94 2:14 pm > you are in Disintegrator??????? yep! > seriously!!! > UP-tempo! yes, that's right, pretty fast... Not everything we do is like that. I think some of our new tracks coming up will suprise many. Also, check out Koenig Cylinders - it's a side project, and one of our best. Peace SPY ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:22:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Amy C. Quick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Amy C. Quick" Subscribe SUB CALENDAR acquick@mailbox.syr.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:32:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Motion Info please help me.... i am a fellow O.G. (not any gangsta' bullshit!... Original Gabber) too i remember hearing the following on new years at the PHASE II party... Rotterdam................Rotterdam...................Rotterdam........... ....Rotterdam.................Rotterdam...Rotterdam...Rotterdam...Rotterdam RotterdamRotterdamRotterdamRotterdam.... etc/you get the point who does that record? also, i have been looking for a replacement copy of ALLES NAAR DE KL-TE for the longest time now. any suggestions as to who still has it??? remember..... "THIS IS GABBERKAISERRRRRRRRRR!!!!" thank you! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:35:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: p-909 @ Pleasure Dome i wish i could be there, even ask taylor, i love P909. I spin acid technology all the time. i think that acid music is beautiful music. you guys are the best at acid. i envy anybody that has all that original Roland gear and uses the internal sequencing for such beautiful sounds... where is Pleasure Dome waiting for "Love Sky"..... UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 14:49:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: Motion Info >please help me.... >i am a fellow O.G. (not any gangsta' bullshit!... Original Gabber) too >i remember hearing the following on new years at the PHASE II party... >Rotterdam................Rotterdam...................Rotterdam........... >....Rotterdam.................Rotterdam...Rotterdam...Rotterdam...Rotterdam >RotterdamRotterdamRotterdamRotterdam.... etc/you get the point >who does that record? >also, i have been looking for a replacement copy of ALLES NAAR DE KL-TE >for the longest time now. any suggestions as to who still has it??? >remember..... > "THIS IS GABBERKAISERRRRRRRRRR!!!!" > I have a copy of ALLES NAAR DE KL--TE that I'd be willing to sell, I'll bring it to future groove if you want to buy it off me then. Peace and trance, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 15:14:14 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: My sister :) OK guys...I'd like to officially (thumping bass, please :) ) welcome my dear sister Helen st005017@brownvm.brown.edu to the network!! HI HELEN!! WELCOME ABOARD!! your bro, Terence ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 15:59:05 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Motion Info there is a possibility that i can't make it to the future groove if i can't & i don't see you, how does $7 sound for the record thru snail-mail??? that is record + ship + handle. i WILL try to make future groove, but we just got snow up the ass and some roads are CLOSED. waah cry UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 16:00:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Motion Info it just occurred to me....... you're DJ MARS!!!! you're pretty good keep the scene alive! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:05:43 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: Motion Info In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 13:32:54 -0400 from Well, if you're looking for a track with a repeated "Rotterdam" sample in it, then your either in luck, or out of luck, depending on how you look at it. That's 'cause there are about 100 gabber tracks with the repeated "Rotterdam" sample in them. I know that I have about ten different tracks with that sample on tape and vinyl. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:12:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: Motion Info Hmmm... Future Groove isn't until next weekend, so let me know this week coming if you can make it or not, otherwise we can mail it. The record originally cost me $9 (it's an import) and is now out of print, so I'll have to think about the price anyway over the weekend. Bye, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:51:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: BADGES Badges are FINALLY available. Okay, I will be up at Kick It and Future Groove this coming weekend and will be delivering these goodies to those what I meet and who order them. If you are interested in them, please let me know before hand and I will run a series out for you. Especially if you are interested in the personalized badges let me know by Tuesday and I will make them and collect when I get up there. I will have the badges already ordered available there and if no one collects I will mail them out when I get back. I will take orders to be made and send out later while I am at those parties, but beware, I am notoriously bad with responsibility (why else would I be list admin?). First some background on the badges. The costs involved cover a few basic things including the badge, lamination, postage of mailing it to you, and cost of the necklace. I don't make money off these things, they are for identification in rave situations where verbal communication can become ... difficult. Information to be included on the badges: Name Handle EMail Address City of Residence Pithy Quote Whatever information you want.. DC Raves Badge - Available The DC Raves badge is a background of a posse of happy smiling yellow faces on an orange field with the words 'DC Raves' sprawled accross the front. The back includes personal information. It was designed by Max (Fierce Ruling Diva) of the DC Raves tribe. Cost $3.50 NE Raves Badge 1 - Unavailable The old orange style badges with personal information included and a window for difractive lens which unfortunately tended to melt during lamination. Unknown who designed it, Laura La Gassa probably did. Cost: N/A NE Raves Badge 2 - Available The CyberTribes most popular badge. This has the VR man on the front of it reaching out to touch something. Above him are the words 'Reach Out * Connect' and below him are the words 'NE Raves' and the old gnu address. Personal information is included on the back. While the address has changed I won't change the address until the image is cleaned up and I can redo the whole badge. It wsa designed and originally distributed by Taylor808 (Instinct Records) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $3.50 NE Raves Badge series 3 - Available A series of four badges sold as a set. The background to each of these is a field of the words 'Peace Love Unity Respect' repeated ad infinitum at a crazy tilt. Superimposed on that are the multicolored letters 'PLUR' and on each badge is a scripted word, either 'Peace', 'Love', 'Unity', or 'Respect'. Above this montage is the new NetRave logo (for incorporation into all badge series as a show of Unity) and below is the word 'NE Raves'. Personal information is not included on the badges and the whole series is sold as a set (to allow for a greater volume to be produced at a given time). Both the series and the new NetRave logo were designed by David Darrow (Chaos Lite Graphics) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $5.00 NE Raves Badge 4 - Unavailable This is still in the concept stage. Envisioned is one or two of the Peanuts gang (comic strip) dancing, in rave clothing or spinning some 1200s. Above would be the words 'Get Net * It Pays' and below would be the words 'NE Raves'. The back would contain information on the owner of the badge. Looking for someone who can draw in Charles Schultz style to create these things. Cost: N/A ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:19:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/1/94) In-Reply-To: <199403031843.NAA10226@umd5.umd.edu> from "jiMmy f" at Mar 3, 94 01:36:32 pm > > is anyone headed to Pleasure Dome? will be coming from cleveland. have car an > d cash. willing to give rides on the way. if anyone has more info on P.D. let > me know. > > thanks > > jiMmy f > Ummmm.. I am organising a bus trip to Pleasure Dome but the bus is leaving from Athens Ohio which is 1 hour south of Columbus. I have a friend coming down from near Younstown who will prob. have room in his car. The ticket price is $52 (sorry it is so expensive, but a bus from Ohio to D.C. is a lot!!! That does include your ticket in..) I still have some seats left, so if ya want in let me know ASAP... Later... -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:26:43 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ilithien Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ilithien Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/1/94) In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 18:19:46 -0500 do you anything about bus rides passing through new jersey? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:53:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Introduction (again) Okay folks, here is my second go at it. I wish I had more time to do this, but I hope Brendan can make some improvements and polish it up so it fits better with his planned FAQ. Anyhow, please mail me some responses on the new additions (Nettiquette, removals from the list, resources) and whatever. If I don't get feedback I can't make it a better document. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu --- __________________________________________________________________ Welcome to the North East Rave List Dedicated to you, the members of the underground _____________________________________________________________v2.1_ Please retain a copy of this material for future reference. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Introduction: Hello, I am your host for the duration, danFREELove. If you have any questions, problems, or comments about the list itself, please feel free to mail me anytime at: anarchy@eng.umd.edu. NE Raves is a forum for the discussion of the various aspects of rave culture, upcoming events, and life in general. If you have something to contribute, please, we want hear from you. When you first join, it is advisable to wait a few weeks until you get the feeling of the list before posting, but then you should put up and introduction. This is not required, but might be an advisable thing to do. Why? Well, this is more than a list, this is a community, a cybertribe. Over the years the members of this list have grown into a family spread through time and space. We get together to dance and break bread, to share the many experiences that life has to offer to each and every one of us. So remember, while this is a forum, it is full of warm and caring people. Welcome to the CyberTribe. Dan (03-01-94) ------------------------------------------------------------------ A note on content of messages for NE Raves: We have a nice tribe here. As with any large group of persons trying to stick together, there are a few customs that have developed to help us filter out what each other are saying. 1> Flames: If you are feeling very emotional about a letter, think it through before you send it. Sometimes their are large scale discussions on NE Raves on subjects that are sensitive to many of in the CyberTribe. If you find yourself in a letter and the magic words 'fuck you' come into your mind, STOP. Reread what you have been writing. Is it a personal attack or is it a calmy written addition to the conversation? If it's a personal attack please think about either mailing it directly to the user or removing it. 2> Short Notes: If you are about to send a note out to the list and it is under 5 lines (not including signature file) reread it. If it has something of interest to everyone else on the list, send it. If it is one of those 'me to' letters, please send it directly to whomever you are agreeing with or remove it. We are flooded with mail on NE Raves and one of the main reasons people remove themselves from the list is the volume. So, if you can help us slow down the flood we will love you forever. 3> Think about it before you send it: If you write out a letter and you aren't sure whether it belongs on a rave discussion list, go ahead and send it. If you are SURE it doesn't belong on a raves discussion list, don't send it. We haven't had too much trouble with this to date, but I have seen some nasty examples on other lists that really worry me. The problem is that it alienates other users who have come here to talk about the scene and how we can work in it for a better vibe. ------------------------------------------------------------------ A note on removals from the list: >From time to time I, as list administrator, come upon an account that is no longer accepting mail for one reason or another. What happens is I start getting bounced mail from you into my mail box which is kind of annoying when I get something like 30 letters from the list and then two accounts are bouncing so I get another 30 from both of those accounts. When this happens I have two choices. I can either let it ride for a while and hope it fixes itself or I can remove the account. My general rules are that I remove any bouncing account after two days of bounces. Sometimes I remove them immediately if the system bouncing to me indicates that the account no longer exists. So, please be aware that if you stop getting mail from the NE Raves, it doesn't mean the system is down. It may mean I have removed you for administrative reasons. Try resubscribing yourself and sending mail to me about it for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------ Contributors to the list: NE Raves maintains a few services of use to our community. Here is a list of what is available and who maintains it, including contact information: ROM - Rave-O-Matic - List of upcoming Raves Maintained by: Michael Minnich (inhuman+@cmu.edu) Purpose: A chronological list of all upcoming raves as updated by our user list. Please send any information on upcoming events and tentatively planned events both to the list and to Mike. HOM - Hookup-O-Matic - List of Who is going to be Where Maintained by: Melanie Colton (melzie@wam.umd.edu) Purpose: A chronological list of who is going to go to which events. Included is information on who can provide rides, who needs rides, the locations they are coming and going to and possible pre and post party meetings and crash spaces. Please mail Melanie directly for contact information. BOoM - Birthday-O-Matic - List of upcoming CyberTribe birthdays Maintained by: Vanessa Wang Purpose: A chronological, monthly posting of who has a birthday coming up. Be sure to send cards and email to whoever is having a birthday, we all love to have our birthdays remembered. :) FAQ and Intro - Frequently Asked Questions and Introduction Maintained by: Brendan McDougall (mcdougal@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu) Purpose: The Introduction is this file you are reading now. It is sent to the list every two weeks so that you can maintain a current copy of information on how to subscribe and unsubscribe and can forward it to whoever wants to join up. The FAQ is a new feature that will give you pointers to all the rave related information available on the Internet. It also covers music, clothing and other related stores in the North East area and will answer other questions you may have about the scene throughout the US. Please mail Brendan about any additions or suggestions you have for either the Intro or the FAQ. FTP Site - An Archive of Rave Related Materials Maintained by: Brian Behlendorf (bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu) Purpose: This is a site maintained for the net community at large by Brian Behlendorf of the SF Raves posse. The site is also the foundation of Mike Brown's ambient archives with various information available on that particular stream of techno music. This is also available by gopher and mosaic. Much material lies within and included are: JPEG Images - Images of the NE Raves Tribe members and scanned images of fliers from raves world wide. Archives of Lists - Archives of the continueing communications on various rave lists are maintained here. Documents - Various documents on everything from how to throw parties to various common substances seen at raves, from articles in mainstream magazines mentioning rave culture to rave ideology. Programs - Programs for various computers to display JPEG images, create hypnotizing graphic effects and assorted miscellanious files of interest to ravers. ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to subscribe to the NE Raves Discussion List: To subscribe to NE Raves please send the following line in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: sub ne-raves Firstname Lastname Where Firstname would be your first name (or the first word of the name you wish to be listed under) and Lastname (or the second word of the name you wish to be listed under). Be sure to have at least two words after the 'sub ne-raves' as the listserv will not accept any submission with less than two words in the name fields. If you are subscribing for an address other than the one you are logged onto at this time you must log off your present account and send the submission from the other account. If their is a problem with doing this please mail me (anarchy@eng.umd.edu) and I will subscribe you by hand. Please be sparing in mailing me to do this as it increases my workload substantially. Their are other words that you can use as a substitute for the word 'sub' in the above example including subscribe and signon. ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to sign-off from the NE Raves Discussion List: To unsubscribe from NE Raves please send the following line in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: unsub ne-raves If you are unsubscribing from an address other than the one you are logged onto at this time you must log off your present account and send the submission from the account you are subscribed from. If their is a problem with doing this please mail me (anarchy@eng.umd.edu) and I will subscribe you by hand. Please be sparing in mailing me to do this as it increases my workload substantially. 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It is particularly useful when you are leaving on vacation and don't want to be flooded with new letters yet still want to be on the list. It also means that a letter is not sent to me telling me you have removed yourself from the list and allows me to keep a cleaner mailbox. :) To stop mail from the NE Raves Discussion List please send the following line in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: set ne-raves nomail To start mail once you decide to enjoy our company again send the following message under the same conditions as above: set ne-raves mail ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to query your subscription options on the NE Raves Discussion List: This feature allows you to determine the current settings of your subscription options for the NE Raves Mail List. These options can then be changed by using the set commands covered later in this article. To query your subscription options on the NE Raves Discussion List please use the following in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: query ne-raves ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to set the method of acknowledgement for the NE Raves Discussion List: This service will allow you to remove or set the method of acknowledgement for the NE Raves Discussion List. To set the acknowledgement feature for the NE Raves Discussion List please use the following in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: set ne-raves xxx Where xxx = ack, noack or msgack ack - Sends you a short note every time you send mail to the NE Raves Discussion List acknowledging receipt and dispersal of your letter. 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To review basic list membership of the NE Raves Discussion List please send the following line in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: review ne-raves Advanced review methods: Alphabetically by real name as subscribed (many users are listed as being CyberTribe Member as their real names were not available during creation of the list): review ne-raves by name Alphabetically by email server (the address to the right of the @ in an email address): review ne-raves by node Alphabetically by email userid (the name to the left of the @ in an email address): review ne-raves by userid Alphabetically by country location of email server (this may be confused by having email accounts on machines outside of the users actual country of residence): review ne-raves by country ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to conceal your address from review on the NE Raves Discussion List: This service will allow you to remove your name from the list generated by the review command for non-list owner inquiries on the NE Raves Discussion List. To conceal yourself from review on the NE Raves Discussion List please use the following in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: set ne-raves xxx Where xxx = conceal or noconceal ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to get statistics on the NE Raves Discussion List: This service will send you a list of the subscribers to the NE Raves Discussion List and list the number of posts they have submitted and the total number of posts. To get the statistics on the NE Raves Discussion List please send the following line in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: stats ne-raves ------------------------------------------------------------------ To retrieve an index of archived letters from the NE Raves Discussion List: This service will send you a copy of the complete archives of posts, in one month chunks, that have been sent to the NE Raves Discussion List since it started being maintained at UMDD.UMD.EDU. To stop mail from the NE Raves Discussion List please send the following line in an email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: index ne-raves ------------------------------------------------------------------ How to retrieve archived letters from the NE Raves Discussion List: This service will allow you to retrieve a file that includes the total posts sent to NE Raves in a given one month period. These are very large files so I would use this service sparingly as it takes up large amounts of system resources to send files of this size through the Internet. To retrieve a months archives of letters from the NE Raves Discussion List please send the following line in a email letter with no subject and no other text to listserv@umdd.umd.edu: get ne-raves logxxyy Where: xx = the year of the archive yy = the month of the archive ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:37:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: p-909 @ Pleasure Dome In-Reply-To: <199403041924.OAA00439@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 4 Mar 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > i wish i could be there, even ask taylor, i love P909. I spin acid > technology all the time. i think that acid music is beautiful music. > you guys are the best at acid. i envy anybody that has all that original > Roland gear and uses the internal sequencing for such beautiful sounds... > > where is Pleasure Dome > > waiting for "Love Sky"..... > > UP-tempo! > > 1000 > Washington, DC. And I'm there!!!!! btw...whoever's promoting, I'll work door, setup, whatever.... peazout ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 19:52:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Veronica E. Martins" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Veronica E. Martins" Subject: MARK REID Does anybody know if Mark Reid (the laser guy) has en e-mail address and if so, what it is? Thanks Alot.... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 23:01:13 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: florida list address?? I'm going to florida w/ my gf for a couple of days next week...is there a rave list for the region, and if there is, could someone hook me up with the address?? Thanks a lot, Terence ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 23:04:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: p-909 @ Pleasure Dome In-Reply-To: <199403041921.OAA29812@umd5.umd.edu> thanks for the support.. :) and hope lots of you show up... just for gek sake, our gear for the night will probably consist of: 2 101's 303 606 808 909 matrix - 6 SBX-10 MM-1 mountain dew :) >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:10:30 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: 1.8.7 @ Pleasuredome Well having read taylors note I thought I'd post a list of what and who will be with me during my PA at Pleasuredome. Gear for the night will be: Ensoniq EPS (classic) Roland TR-909 Roland TB-303 Roland Jupiter-6 Roland SBX-10 sync box Roland PAD-5 drumpad Kawai K3M Yamaha REX-50 The 187 MIDICrossfader ..and possibly the 187 degree MIDIBall (A Beach ball with a transmitter that gets thrown out and triggers samples or filter changes. This puts the audience in the act as part of the show.) The 187 Ruffneck Cru will consist of me (of course), MC Mikbee and the new for 1994 187 dancers: Michelle, Lisa and Suzanne. Should be a fun time, see you there. Hold it down. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 00:12:12 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: National 303 Day Didn't anyone notice. Yesterday was national 303 day. 03-03-94 :) Joe ~ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Mar 1994 22:14:52 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mark hutchins Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mark hutchins Subject: Re: i neeeed DEC email ad In-Reply-To: <199403041432.JAA17366@umd5.umd.edu> from "!" at Mar 4, 94 03:16:56 pm Not sure of a general email address for dec.com but you can get an acct on DEC's new Alpha AXP. You can send email to axposf@pa.dec.com for INFO. Or you can just telnet to 16.1.0.14 and log on as axpguest. hope this helps...l8r... Tony sends ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 02:21:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: 1.8.7 @ Pleasuredome In-Reply-To: <199403050556.AAA08690@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 5 Mar 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > ..and possibly the 187 degree MIDIBall (A Beach ball with a transmitter > that gets thrown out and triggers samples or filter changes. This puts > the audience in the act as part of the show.) i was taken to a phish show and they did this. it was really a great idea. and funny to watch all the hippy people scrambling to touch one of the four balls (one controled each of the four band member's instruments). chris -- We pray the acids of House. We promise you the future of House. * finger for pgp key ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 09:14:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Fluid's back in business.. Just to let you know that Im now back home, in my brit@chopin.udel.edu account, and hopefully this is where i'll stay. Opened my inbox to find exactly 3,450 messages - if im not back my Monday call a doctor. Thankyou ;) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:27:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Craig Loomis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Craig Loomis Subject: unsubscribe Christopher.J.Chapman@williams.edu Please unsubscribe Christopher.J.Chapman@williams.edu - craig loomis, as postmaster@williams.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:37:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403050604.BAA09748@umd5.umd.edu> i noticed! i noticed! i made sure to write the date: 03.03.94 whenever i had the chance! :) >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 11:19:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: red tix... where? Okay I don't have a real flyer, I have the one that was typed up and sent out, but it doesn't tell where to get tickets! WHERE CAN I GET TICKETS FOR RED????? I need them before Friday, while they're still fifteen bucks! Please, someone with a flyer list all locations! thanks, > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 11:24:14 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/1/94) In-Reply-To: <199403050001.TAA09897@umd5.umd.edu> from "ilithien" at Mar 4, 94 06:26:43 pm Sorry, I only know about mine. Send E-Mail to Plasma1000@aol.com and ask him. He is a promoter. -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 12:24:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: red tix... where? In-Reply-To: <199403051628.LAA07614@umd5.umd.edu> modern music -baltimore music now -dc groove -brooklyn allston beat -boston devious mind -boston liquid sky -manhattan lunasea -providence mothership -vermont juan & juanita -montreal -- We pray the acids of House. We promise you the future of House. * finger for pgp key ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 12:27:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: Fantasyproj PEOPLE Hey, squiggleman's asked twice about tonight's rave in poughkeepsie(sp?). No pre-dinner??? *I was looking forward to Denny's.* :) well, squiggleman, manish and I will be there, and we hope to bump into some of you guys tonight.. A warning Patti:::-----> I _will_ be coming by for my free snokone! *evilgrin* -Akeera btw-I'll be wearing a white t-shirt with lots of black lines on it along with a picture of "Cable", some comic-book muscle/cyber-type guy. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 10:16:41 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: Free Party in Worcester Tonight, who's going?? HI all! Stef here, just posting a quick note to see who was planning on going to the free party in Worcester tonight! As far as I know, me, JILL and Donato were planning on going, and love to hear if anyone else was planning on going as well. I may have a couple of spaces in my Luxurious Tempo (!) for people from Boston who may need a ride. I was planning on leaving around 11 pm or so... Mail me or post if anyone is interested!! Trippin' on.. Stef Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 13:44:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: tonight is the night! just a reminder to evero yone!, don't forget to stop by our snoKOne one table, that is where we will have the sign that says "cybertribe !:)" okay? hope to see you all there, and if you introduce yourself, you'll get a free snoKone, if that is n n n't an influence, a that n i don't know what is!:) hope to see you all there!:) peaz out... peppermomnt int patty ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 14:44:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBERT71@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBERT71@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: ne-raves please enter me into your subscription list. thank you. Corey. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:29:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Future Groove Cybertribe Reduced List >Hey everybody, >Im gonna have a special cybertribe reduced list for Future Groove. The >reduced price is $7 instead of $10. If you would like to be placed on my >list please send me your name (First and Last) and the names of any of >your guests to caffeine@cyberspace.net when you come to the door you are >gonna need to bring some form of ID to prove your identity. Hope to see >you all there!!! Chris, I'm Will-E's boyfriend; I'll be coming with Will, and definitely want to be on the list. I'm not sure what the policy is on the door and how tight expenses are going to be. If it's possible to just come in with Will, that would be great. Otherwise, put me on for the reduced rate. Thanks, Phil Z ______________________________________________________________________________ _____ \___/\ Phil / / / / A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag / / is fast and bulbous / /____. got me? \/______\ ______________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 15:54:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: red tix... where? They exytended the date for the $15 fee at least Boston Beat has... cause when i went to get mine yesterday they hadn't been delivered yet... mine's coming via the us post office...but he told me that the 15 fee is extended...you may want to call to verify in your area. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 16:18:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer Subject: gabberhead In-Reply-To: <199403042246.RAA29001@umd5.umd.edu> from "Matt" at Mar 4, 94 05:05:43 pm matt, got your tape (listening to now actually on headphones). i really dig it. i have *zero* gabber tapes so i was very excited to get this one. the mixing is pretty smooth. i notice that you like to cut the beats in and out a lot. thats cool. my only recommend is that you don't cut beats in and out during vocal samples (and thereby break up the sample). 'sides that...sounds good =) i am going to finish my tape this weekend. and i will send you one. thanx for yours...and btw, how did you make the color sleeve on the front? i am going to design a sleeve for mine, but i dont think i'll be able to hook up the color. thanx, damian ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 18:00:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: PRE-MINOR INFRACTION HOOKUP (boston people take note) Okay folks...before you go to Jetta's Minor Infraction (which you really must go to) on Friday the 11th, I just wanted to let you know that us MIT ravers (Jimmy Hat, John (Handi), Duane, Shannon, and myself) are having a preparty thingy. It will be in the basement of Jimmy Hat's dorm (cool space, psychadelic walls) around 5pm on Friday the 11th. We'll have 1200s set up so if you want to spin you probably can. Foodwise, there's always Domino's.. The address is 50 Mass. Ave. (directly across from the main MIT entrance) When you come, just meet in the little courtyard inside the gate. . If you are driving, get back to me and I'll tell you direction/where to park/ etc. If not, there is a T stop at Kendall Square..a short walk away. If you are not driving, there will probably be people who you can get rides to Wellesley with. If not, the bus to Wellesley stops right there and costs $3. You other Boston NE-Ravers should especially come (ie BU, NE, Simmons, Harvard). Please email me and let me know if you are coming and if you are driving or not....thanks. -casper ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Mar 1994 20:36:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: Projects by the wayside :^( In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 03 Mar 1994 15:01:55 -0400 ALCHEMY WAS CANCELLED ;( ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 01:27:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: FINALLY THE FULL RED FLYER Oh boy. You can't believe how tired I am. I've been up for almost twenty hours today, driving for about four of those hours. Editing videos for another hour. Laughing and having a good (yet tiresome) time with friends videotaping our experiences in the mall and Bickford's for three hours. Reading for three hours. I almost killed myself falling asleep while driving home. BUT... I am willing to do what has never been done before. I am going to type up the RED flyer for those of you who were in my position, so you do not have to go through what I did to find out exactly what you needed (in my case where to buy tix... even the Royal Plaza Trade Center in Fitchburg had no clue). I went down to Boston and searched ALL OVER Harvard Square for flyers. EVERY record store. EVERY clothing store. Finally a guy in Tower Records with a raver hat suggested I try Newbury St. Half-heartedly I set down the street peering into any shops that might advertise such... to no avail. Finally at the end of the street. Allston Beat. And there, a stack. I didn't take too much, for those who also might need them, but I took a few. I have TEN RED FLYERS that will go to the first ten people who e-mail me. I will send each for $1 to cover shipping, handling, and custom-envelope making (they don't fit in my envelopes so I'll have to wrap them up somehow). E-mail me your address and I'll send you a flyer, with my address... you can then send me a dollar. A small price to pay for such a sought-after treasure. HOWEVER... for those of you who only need the information in the flyer, and don't need an original (I really didn't need one myself... I just wanted to find tickets!!!!), I've typed it up for ya, even the fine print. It's not perfect, but maybe this will save you some time. PLUR, Drelb (for best results set to size 9 font, Monaco, and probably 24 columns) RED [The flyer is really hi-quality, glossy four-page booklet... full color. The cover shows this funky guy dancing with a pair of patterned baggies, cool sneaks, and a rad hat... and a nice pullover. The background is a field of red, and he is standing on a couple of blocks that spell out the word, (what else) "RED".] After months of planning, we are ready to bring you another step into the future... journey into the heated fathoms of Red, the finale in a series of primary colors. Step out of yourself and feel the surge of joy as PRIMARY PRODUCTIONS gears up to take you on a ride you will never forget! Once again PANDEMONIUM will display its talent with a massive ariel multi-beam laser assault, intelligent lighting by Martin, pyrotechnics, a full quad winch mounted moving truss structure, strobes, UV conons and other effects that will surely dazzle! TERRY HANLEY SOUND SYSTEMS (Woodstock/Life/Yellow) will construct a scaffold mounted four point dance system to ensure minimum bleed and maximum wattage density. All three rigs are designed to create absolute clarity and consistency all night long! You have been warned! A full 20 ft stage complemented by dance floor risers, and platforms. Massive 80 ft backdrops, panoramic views from the chill-out zone, indoor marquee, 15 ft video walls, tribal drummers, and much more.... TO ENSURE YOUR ENJOYMENT: - Strict Door Procedures - Full Medical and Safety Room - Patrolled Parking - Clean bathrooms - No Readmission [how does this ensure enjoyment?] - Information Booth - Full Cafe & Rest Area - 18 and Over [WHY?] - No Alcohol - R.O.A.R. Look out for... Purple N.Y.C. in the Fall Spectrum N.Y.C. Fridays begin in June Ultraviolet N.Y.C. MD & MA beginning in May [I'm there] Rainbow New England (outdoors) Summer 1994 [I'm there too!!!!] TICKETS GO ON SALE MARCH 1ST 1994 $15.00 until March 10 $20.00 until March 23 $25.00 day of Last day for ticket purchase Wednesday March 23 1994 (Ticket prices may vary on buses) 24-HOUR INFORMATION (617)-499-7765 (212)-886-5421 Primary Productions are: 333 MGEE MELLO Promotional Strenth: NEW YORK -------- Mello/Primary dennis the menace & joint ventures/S.U.N. Eddie Van Raven/S.U.N. Papa/Zooted Trepp Scooter Alan Sanctuary Up North Big Dipper A.C.M.E Kort & Greg BOSTON ------ Primary All Done Mindwarp Central Pivot Dezel Vibe Tribe D.J. WORLD ----- Tiga/DNA Chemistry/harmony K.C. & the sunrise gang Atom & Warped Balu Sugarbare Fluffhead S.E.S. Productions Ultraworld Angel T.H.C. Muse Chris Styles Heather United Techno Photography [not that you can see it]: Paul Slater, Kier Artwork [this either]: Eon-One, Maeve, Benny Lay-Out [need I say it?]: Reload, Mark Slater, Paul Slater TRANSPORT & INFORMATION Boston ------ PRIMARY- (617) 499 7765 All Done Posse- (617) 576 8353 Mindwarp- (617) 499 4848 Vibe Tribe- (508) 877 0790 New York -------- Brooklyn-Joint Ventures- (212) 629 2061 Long Isl.-Eddie Van Raven- (516) 925 2011 Manhattan-PRIMARY- (212) 885 5421 Alan Sanctuary- (212) 696 8939 Up State-Up North Prod- (914) 256 0445 Big Dipper- (518) 465 6381 New Jersey ---------- Scooter- (212) 631 1033 Angel- (908) 972 6270 Philadelphia ------------ T.H.C. Productions- (215) 923 4339 Washington D.C. --------------- Muse Productions- (202) 452 7663 Scientific Images- (202) 828 0749 Baltimore --------- Ultraworld- (410) 880 7031 Providence ---------- Balu- (401) 454 6028 Montreal -------- Tiga\DNA- (514) 854 6446 Maine ----- K.C. & the sunrise gang- (207) 773 6979 Vermont ------- Mothership- (802) 658 3736 Connecticut ----------- Atom & Warped Prod- (203) 454 6643 Please, if you would like to take a bus, help out your promoter by booking early! TICKET OUTLETS [what I got these for] -------------- Modern Music- Baltimore- (410) 523 1882 Music now!- Washington D.C.- (202) 638 3272 Groove records- Brooklyn- (718) 714 5352 Allston Beat- Boston- (617) 421 9555 Devious Mind- Boston- (617) 421 9066 Boston Beat- Boston- (617) 247 2428 Liquid Sky- Manhattan- (212) 343 0532 Lunasea- Providence- (401) 272 5862 Mothership- Vermont- (902) 658 3736 Juan & Juanita- Montreal- (514) 847 2292 [turn the page and you find this huge two-page spread, which shows a devil riding a motorcycle in spray-can art style with the word "RED" trailing out after it.] [the next two-page spread shows some funky silhouettes and lights, and a list of DJ's.] DARREN EMERSON Underworld Ministry of Sound FRANKIE BONES Groove GUY D.M.C. N.Y.C./DMC Records FABIO PARAS Junior Boys Own Drum Club SCOTT HENRY D.C. Fever/Buzz TIGA Montreal/DNA TIN TIN Warp Records Club UK 333 Dogs Bollocks Boston DEBO Stress Records Mindwarp/Boston ONIONZ M-GEE The dogs Bollocks Boston SAMEER L.I. Caffeine ARMAND N.Y.C. Strictly Rhythm Records/Sorted OSHEEN R.I. Renegade Records RYDE N.J. Smooth Groove JOESKI N.Y.C. Chocolate Factory BRUNO Boston The Loft TROPOSPHERE N.Y.C. DMC Records ANDREW & ARNAUD OF INTERCHILL Universal Egg Records ENTITY Baltimore Ultraworld SOUL SLINGER NYC Liquid Sky MR. KLEEN NYC Net Morning Glory with... KING BRITT Digable Planets Philly JAZZY NICE Giant Step New York +? [which I can only assume there may be more] [the back page is mostly red with circles encircling a jester face with the Primary logo in its mouth. It also says:] SATURDAY MARCH 26th 1994 10:00 PM TO 10:00 AM THE ROYAL PLAZA TRADE CENTER FITCHBURG MASSACHUSETTS PRIMARY PRODUCTIONS - SHINE ON - CENTRAL PIVOT Well, there you have it. I really hope to see you there... and stick up for me if they give me a hard time about being under eighteen. I think I'll wear a nametag that says "drelb" or something. > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 01:27:06 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: BADGES Hey these badges sound cool... who do I mail my info to should I want one? And will the distributor b e at RED? > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Anim ation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 02:36:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rishad J. Quazi" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Subject: Post-Minor-Infraction-Pre-Future-Groove-Pizza-Party Hey Kids, Since myself, Mark and Fiend will probably be chilling out at my place before Future Groove, and since I live pretty close to the site of the party, I'm going to throw a small-ish pizza party/hang/chill session at my apartment for anyone who wants to come. It's not a very big place, but it's home and it's comfy and you can chill out and shower and relax and stretch before the rave. Email me if you'd like to come and want directions, okay? Also, I live like 5 mins away from a Long island RailRoad station, so if any of you want to come from the city to my place, no problem at all - i'll drive over and pick you up, but you must let me know if/when you want to arrive. Peace, and hope to see some of you next week on Lawn Guyland! O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 02:56:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: FINALLY THE FULL RED FLYER In-Reply-To: <199403060631.BAA14258@umd5.umd.edu> $25 bucks the day of?! Gadzooks. This is a request to anyone in the Boston area....If anyone could be so kind as to pick up a $15 ticket for me, I'll cut a check or money order to you. Let me know via e-mail, so as not to waste net traffic. Or if anyone from Boston is coming to Future Groove, I could give you the cash there. Also, thanks to Drelb for the loooon typing. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 03:43:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: method one and dj tiff n e @ pleasuredome getting in on the fun... in case you didn't know...i will ALSO be performing at pleasuredome...i will be in the chillout room with derek to do a big sqoooosh ambient soundscape... totally live, unplanned, and free-form...records and live stuff :) should be very fun... so, in the spirit of joe and taylor: METHOD ONE'S PLEASUREDOME EQUIPMENT LIST -ensoniq asr-10 -roland tr-808 -korg m1 -sequential prophet 600 -yamaha ry-30 -sony discman -mackie 1202 mixer and tascam 424 4 track recorder derek and i already have one joint chillout set under our belts....pleasuredome will mess with your heads....trust me :)\ -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 18:27:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: HOM---where is it? mebbe im just missing something...but it seems like the hom hasn't been around for a while......so if there are no objections, ill take the responsibility for making the list of ravers for future groove.... if you are coming, just mail me with your: 1) email address 2) handle/ name (whatever u prefer) 3) where you are coming from 4) if you need or can offer a ride. sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 11:11:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: HOM---where is it? In-Reply-To: <199403061543.KAA23438@umd5.umd.edu> Um..dear..I've spent hours and hours every week for awhile now typing upt he HOM for the DC, UM, and NE raves lists......I'm sorry it's gone unnoticed..[well, hurt actually] but......um......can't say I didn't try to do my part [shrug] Melzie aka the non-existent ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:15:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Oops & SLIPs methinks I should watch my headers when sending out mail, especially when using a new mail program and a new connection type... Sorry for the wasted bandwidth. On the other hand, I can get a chance to enthuse about having a SLIP (well, actually PPP) connection for the first time. Though I have a dozen new programs to get familiar with (erk), the ability to multitask on the net from my Mac for the first time is just blowing me away. I've been able to vrave while looking at the Techno page on Mosaic while reading my mail while reading News... I need a few more eyes and a *much* bigger screen now! :) For those who haven't been to the techno site via WWW/Mosaic, it's really an impressive resource- Brian's done a beautiful job, It's kinda comforting that we have our act together enough as a group to have the only active XX-RAVES list jump-off page. From there I've been to Oz's page, which has some really cool information and net connections on it; Thigpen's page (thanks for the Trek connection!) and DJ Marcus's page. There's just so much to see (and hear- I just listened to a bit of Cosmic Baby from Oz's Trance Music Pages!!)- this is really cool stuff!!! Phil Z ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:26:17 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Fantasy Project So what did you all think? My favorite moments were Osheen's set (his music selection is ungodly, and his mixing is seamless), the beginning of Adam X's set (when he was playing the melodic stuff), and Doc Martin's set (good variety of house - although it had to be at like +4-5 the whole time..) The funk/electro stuff was amazing. The music was better at this one than at anything I've been to since July (aside from the Abyss, where Stingray did a nice house set) - but it wasn't a very vibey event for some reason, from what I could tell. Any reactions? Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 13:57:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Mosaic Technno Page. Was(Re: Oops & SLIPs) >On the other hand, I can get a chance to enthuse about having a SLIP (well, >actually PPP) connection for the first time. T I've had a slip connection, stable, for a little over 2 weeks. :) > >For those who haven't been to the techno site via WWW/Mosaic, I've only used the demo pages in Mosaic, how would I load the Techno page. Thanks to: >Phil Z > > ...and whoever answers. -Woof ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:37:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Mosaic Technno Page. Was(Re: Oops & SLIPs) At 1:57 PM 3/6/94 -0500, David A. Wolfe wrote: >I've had a slip connection, stable, for a little over 2 weeks. :) >> >>For those who haven't been to the techno site via WWW/Mosaic, > >I've only used the demo pages in Mosaic, how would I load the Techno page? >From the File menu in the Mac Mosaic program you can ask it to "Open URL" then type: http://techno.stanford.edu I don't know what the http:// signifies; seems like you shouldn't have to specify this since all pages I've been to have this header, but I'm probably missing the big picture... Incidentally, you might want to change the setting to not Auto-Load Images in the Options menu first, since there are a lot of pictures on the page. I find it much easier to navigate in Mosaic with pictures off, then to simply click on the pictures that I want to see when I'm at the page. Just when I thought 14.4 dialup was fast, something like this comes along- let's all go 28.8!! :) Incidentally, you can set a directory of pages that you like from the Hotlist menu. Remember to go into the Hotlist Interface item afterwards or you'll lose the hotlist pages you've saved, like we did the first time we set a few(it's not really that obvious how or that you have to save them...) Phil Z ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:58:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Oz Lubling Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Oz Lubling Subject: Techno On The WEB! to all of you our there with workstations or if you're as lucky as phil to have a slip connection, to check out all this stuff you do the following: 1) run mosaic on your machine 2) in the file menu select open URL 3) in the box type in : http://techno.stanford.edu this should get you there. My page and thigpen's as well are located at the bottom of the neraves page, but if you don't wanna look just use http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/home.html to connect to my page. and email lots of comments, oz ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 03:26:30 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: HOM---where is it? > Um..dear..I've spent hours and hours every week for awhile now typing upt > he HOM for the DC, UM, and NE raves lists......I'm sorry it's gone > unnoticed..[well, hurt actually] but......um......can't say I didn't try > to do my part [shrug] > > > Melzie aka the non-existent Just so you know, I have always seen it, always waited for it, and always spent a good deal of time looking it over. Fear not. Your efforts are not only noticed, but deeply appreciated!!! Thank You!!! 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Studies Teacher \ ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM ] [------------------\-------------------------/---------------------------] [ "Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered!", Black Adder ] [\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/] \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 15:51:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Internet Guide <;))>< (2) The TechnoPolis Guide to the Internet: in preparation for <;))>< the ill-fated Alchemy party put on by TNP, a few of us <;))>< decided to put together a small <;))>< pamphlet-type publication to distribute to people at <;))>< parties. The idea behind this was essentially to <;))>< provide a serviceable introduction to the <;))>< CyberTribe, it's reasons for existence, it's implications, <;))>< how to get on the Net etc. etc. <;))>< Though we did get as far as a few paragraphs, I'm <;))>< afraid to report that this is also seemingly on hold. As those of U who were on Technopolis know, I was the editor of this Guide. After Laura packed up and moved 2 SF a couple of days after Alchemy was canceled, Technopolis stopped, and so did the work on The Guide. I'm willing 2 re-assume the position of editor :) but ne-raves is too big a list 2 be used as a bulletin board 4 The Guide's assembly! We are going 2 have 2 do most of our communication through private email, with only occasional posts 2 this list. If anyone is interested in writing or doing artwork 4 The Guide, please write me at 59953336@MCImail.com PEACE OUT :) MARK P.S. Fish made many good points on various other projects. Perhaps, Hazard or whoever is going create that "Introduction To Ne-Raves" (the one that Dan is planning 2 introduce 2 us every two weeks ;) can also mention things like badges, shirts & The Guide. I LOVE U ALL!! (yep all 256 of U :D That's 10000000 in binary!) P.P.S. Sorry if U got this twice, but it seems there are some problems with the Listserver. Not everyone is getting their mail (as evidence of several posts) and the fact that I did not rec acknowledgement from the server the last time I sent this. Sorry again if I'm flooding yr inbox. :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 14:24:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: method one and dj tiff n e @ pleasuredome >so, in the spirit of joe and taylor: >METHOD ONE'S PLEASUREDOME EQUIPMENT LIST > >-ensoniq asr-10 >-roland tr-808 >-korg m1 >-sequential prophet 600 >-yamaha ry-30 >-sony discman >-mackie 1202 mixer and tascam 424 4 track recorder oh yah...well in addition to that...on the DJ side of things we will be using: -2 Techniques 1200's [I should hope!] -1 mixer of some sort -at least one CD player -1 pair of Sony Boodo-Kahn headphones so THERE! :) later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- derek - feeling left out ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 18:48:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Ravemap >From NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU Thu Mar 3 01:41:27 1994 Received: from UMDD.UMD.EDU (umdd.umd.edu [128.8.170.13]) by umd5.umd.edu (8.6.4/94Jan25) with SMTP id BAA03929; Thu, 3 Mar 1994 01:38:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199403030638.BAA03929@umd5.umd.edu> Received: by UMDD.UMD.EDU id 2384 ; 3 Mar 94 01:35:35 EST Received: from UMDD.UMD.EDU by UMDD.UMD.EDU (Mailer R2.10 ptf000) with BSMTP id 2384; Thu, 03 Mar 94 00:17:30 EST Date: Wed, 2 Mar 1994 21:40:04 EST R >Hello everyone, > > Browsing through what I could salvage of my old mail the other day >(both electronic and paper varieties) I came across a bunch of good ideas that >more some reason or another seem to have kinda fallen by the wayside of late. >I was wondering if anyone on the list is still interested in doing these things >and if anyone else has been working on them on the side,, >(4) The MultiMedia RaveMap: this started off as a somewhat fanciful and fun > little project involving a map of the USA (or World) where the user would > click on various parts of the map, and it would show pics, clips, samples > etc. of events that were held in those places. Specifically, the RaveMap > would focus on 'weird places' to have a rave eg. under bridges, on air- > craft carriers, in a sewer, at the bottom of a well etc. :) :) There was > talk of making this a WWW/Mosaic project, though from what I understand > (which isn't a lot, but that's okay) this would preclude a good section of > the group from accessing the project (right?). hey cybertribe, this is a really great idea, and hank hughes (vrave:thigpen)) and i are going to work on it. comments, ideas, suggestionas are welcome you can mail them to jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu or thigpen@ccs.neu.edu *hugs* jill ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 19:01:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: HOM-2 In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 3 Mar 1994 06:12:05 -0500 from I have tried to mail Melzie twice now about a change in what I had written for the HOM...I do have a way to Pleasure Dome, and can offer crash space for any o f those who need it...Also, Momentum already happened! So that shuld be deleted ! Sorry if I seem a bit huffy, but I did send in the changes a day or two ago, and yet here they are posted again! Hope to see a bunch of you out at Kick It! and Future Grooves. Oh, and by the way, I work at Kinko's so I figure I can make a sign or two f or Cybertribe Menmbers to find each other. Just let me know how big and where I should put them....:) PLUR, Becca :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:16:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Delay? Um....I'm just curious..is there a few sday delay in time of posting and reception on ne-raves? as in...with what happened with Becca. I got her letter Thursday of Friday, but had mailed the HOM Wed night and she just got it......is there a few day delay? Mel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:16:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: BADGES In-Reply-To: <199403042314.SAA02931@umd5.umd.edu> Hey Dan...Od like a NE RAVES BADGE....heres my info Name: Chris Esperance Handle: Spam Email: sashay@phantom.com City: Long Island, NY Quote: ??? Other Info: Island Vibe Crew Ill obviously be at future groove...try to get it to me there...okay? ...chris *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 20:38:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Hom-1 **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 11 MINOR INRFACTION Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-Bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu Mark aka Machine Media 0005995336@mcimail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 11 KICK IT Philli, PA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jenn-Bug smed8781@smed.csv.kutztown.edu [CRASH SPACE] munterma@acc.haverford.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 12 FUTURE GROOVE LI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ned aka Chuck aka Buluga [NEEDS RIDE-WESTPORT] buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu Matt aka DJ Fresh Blend [NEEDS RIDE -2 -RI] st000912@brownvm.brown.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com Mark aka Machine Media [NEEDS RIDE BACK TO CT] 0005995336@mcimail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 26 RED Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seuss [NEED RIDE-NY] petelis@eerie.acsu.cc.buffalo.edu Jason Bilsky [OFFER SPACE] fuzzbox@world.std.com Mark aka Machine Media [NEEDS CRASH SPACE] 0005995336@mcmail.com Jmc [CRASH SPACE FOR 5] jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Sprokett [OFFER CRASH SPACE-2] kumquat@acs.bu.edu Hwyman [most amazing person :)] hwyman@wam.umd.edu John aka DJ Entox djentox@aol.com Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP FROM PA] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Neith! [TAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRE-PARTY] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 4 PLEASURE DOME Washington, DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [OFFER SPACE] RC3116A@american.edu Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP-PA SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Derek Tiffany [spinnin :) ] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jason aka Method 1 [performin :) ] lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu Jimmy f [Offers ride on way from Cleve.]dtripper@access.digex.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 21:58:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: HOM---where is it? hey im going to future groove. name: joe email name: fiend address: 6anthony_m@spcvxa.spc.edu im coming from NJ, but i'll be at rishad/fish's place all day. i dont need, and cant offer a ride. im getting one .. the fiend ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:17:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: The List Don't wanna sound like a complainer, but is there any way the list could be made to put the persons address who sends the mail, instead of the Ne-Raves address? I'm on a vax with the standard mailer, and have no way of changing the header, and I always forget anyway. If everyone thinks its better the way it is, then forget it. But I think it would be easier, and I notice lots of people (like me) send private mail to the list once in awhile. So, how about it dan? the fiend --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 22:49:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: FINALLY THE FULL RED FLYER Mr BoB Baxter, I would get you a ticket, but all I have is the nineteen bucks I need for my ticket... two dollars for the subway, two dollars for the ticket surcharge, and fifteen dollars for the ticket... I'm really sorry but I have absolutely zero way of getting enough to get you one... but I'm sure there are others out there who could.... > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < U V Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Mar 1994 23:37:29 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , humphrey@UNITY.NCSU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: humphrey@UNITY.NCSU.EDU Subject: CT and nearby the message goes to anyone who lives in connecticut or anywhere real close. i am very likely going to be living in milford CN this summer, and need somewhere to work. i would prefer to work at a speaker manufacturing place, ie bose (but's that in MA) or somewhere like that. i also wouldn't mind working at a professional audio store. i could also get a job as a computer operator or consultant somewhere...preferably using mac or unix. if anyone can think of anywhere else that might be neat to work, let me know...and if anyone lives around there, let me know cuz we'll have to get together. i am going to be (if everything goes right) be living in a nice house on the water and will have my turntables so we will be having parties at least constantly :) PS i'm not on neraves now so please reply to me please ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////// john humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu /////// ///////// rainbow john_humphrey@ncsu.edu /////// //////// humphrey pgp key upon request /////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////// ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 00:12:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: PLEASUREDOME FLYERS Sorry folks, Pleasuredome flyers won't be available until later this week.. probably thursday or friday.... Sorry for the inconvenience... blame the quake! Lovely day .... Plasma1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 00:18:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: The List In-Reply-To: <199403070334.WAA24069@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 6 Mar 1994, wrote: > Don't wanna sound like a complainer, but is there any way the list > could be made to put the persons address who sends the mail, instead of the > Ne-Raves address? *sigh* I have tried every configuration possible through listserv to make the header all things to all people but it just doesn't work. Personally I have never had a problem with the standard listserv header format but some folks are using somewhat nonstandard mail programs (I have to assume they are nonstandard) which strip the 'from' field and replace it with the 'reply-to' field thus destroying the identity of the originator (the from field). So, to fix that problem I switched the listserv header so that it would list both the originator and the list in the reply-to so even when the 'from' field got destroyed both the originator and the list would still be in the header. Personally it is a bother for me. But several users have complained about not being able to immediately see who sent the message (without pageing through the body of the message and looking for a signature). So, it stands as it, a little inconvenience all around. If I had a choice I would move to a majordomo site, but those are few and far between. Also, as for the recent problems with the mail through NE Raves. Well, I don't know what it is. I have noticed that all the systems on campus have been acting extremely eratic of late (file servers going down, mail servers going down, extreme lag on the machines (I suspect they are rerouting processor time to other jobs)). Before this I have not had a problem with the net here, but I think it is being severly overtaxed for some odd reason. I know we are wired with fiberoptic cable, I know we just added new machines for routing, I know they have been upgrading software all over the place, and yet we still run out of tty's on our student machines, have severe lag on both the news server and our user system and our mail servers have gone nuts. :( Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 00:22:26 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT RECORDS/DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 3/7/94 *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 3/7/94 **************** ********************* "Reviews by DJ John Avery" *************************** ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The DJ Trax 12" Update is now associated with YOUR BEAT RECORDS in Union City, NJ. The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat. This will open up new markets and help to provide interested DJs and music lovers a new source for the most cutting edge dance music. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records (or older selections), please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "ACETATE OF THE MONTH": Keep your eyes open for a new Rare Arts/Two Without Hats 12" in the Boriqua Posse/Try Yazz vein. Glen Friscia of Hot 97 is playing this on his mix show, causing a major buzz. Unfortunately, NO label has signed the song yet, so we'll have to wait for the 12". (Note: this is not the 2 W/O Hats 12" on Mascot) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ C & S / MIC MAC RECORDS: "A Better Place For Love"--Hippie Culture (CS-2012) Go with the "Vibe Tribe U.K. Mix" for a journey into deep house territory with a slight touch of trance. Complete with sinewy bassline and occasional vocal bits tastefully inserted, this track has definite staying power for the dance floors. Once again, C & S delivers with another quality house track from Hippie Culture and for all you jocks still scared of Mic Mac's freestyle past, I say get with program. This is the 90s. Pick this one up. "Instant Enlightenment"(CD)--OM A trance / ambient CD filled with eleven 7+ minute tracks. My favorites are the uptempo trance groovers with their insanely complicated keyboard lines. This is definitely NOT brainless TECHNO. For an even more hypnotic listening experience, check out the ambient cuts. Pure pleasure. (They relax your mind too!!) Contact: Ellen Hanken 212-675-4038 FAX: 212-675-4826 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EAST WEST/ATLANTIC RECORDS: "So Into You"--Michael Watford (0-95950) Produced by John Robinson and remixed by Bobby D'Ambrosio, this record spells C-R-O-S-S-O-V-E-R for Michael Watford who has been ever so popular in the NYC underground since his "Holdin' On" was released two years ago. The production on this 12" is full of energetic keyboards and percussion making it destined to find a niche during peak playing times. Contact: Peter Albertelli 212-275-2500 FAX: 212-581-6588 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AMERICAN RECORDINGS: "21st Century Jesus" (CD/LP)--Messiah (9 45168-2) Well, current and former techno/rave jocks should be familiar with the Messiah name for their relentless brand of techno. For those who haven't been lucky enough to get their out of print import and domestic 12"s, here's a chance to pick up the songs which defined the early US rave culture. However, you'll have to wait for the April 26, 1994 release date. Credit is due for the extensive promotional "bible" American Recordings included with the promo kit. Call and see if you can get one. Contact: Jennifer Murillo 818-973-4545 FAX: 818-973-4571 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DEDICATED RECORDS: "Alpha Phase/Epsilon Phase"--Global Communication (House 005T DJ P) Although I normally do not pay attention to hardcore ambient tracks, these two cuts form the upcoming album, "Pentamerous Metamorphosis", are very atmospheric and use certain keyboard patches to great effect. Unfortunately, ambient music is practically impossible to describe so you'll have to hear it for yourself. Either seek out this promo 12" (not many left, so hurry), or check out the LP when it's released. Contact: Karen/Shanna 212-930-4691 FAX: 212-930-4370 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MUTE RECORDS (CZECHOSLOVAKIA): "All That I Need Is To Be Loved"--Moby (12 nemy 2) Ok, first off, supposedly there are only 500 of these in existence but I'm sure there are more out there somewhere. Basically, we have Moby (The real Moby folks, not those 'Net imitators from alt.rave) giving us a very impressive trance song at 129, 140, and 157 BPM, along with a thrash mix (as in industrial/metal). The "Vocal Dance" mix gets my pick with the tinny keyboard line (Anyone remember the DMC remix of DJ Professor's "We Gotta Do It"????) weaving in and out of the EQ'd 909 kick drum. A very effective track for all DJs. (Hey all you commercial DJs, try it with "Mr. Vain", it'll work!!) Contact: ???????????? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I! RECORDS: "The First Avenue Project EP" (IR 101) Featuring 5 cuts from a variety of up-and-coming producers on the sample house scene, this debut 12" from I! Records is already buzzing with DJs and stores around the NYC area. I found "Get It Together" by Rich Criso to be the most outstanding track on the record and after further investigation, I was surprised to hear this was Rich's debut. The track relies on minimal samples and soft organ keyboards. Jazz-N-Groove, from Miami's E-SA Records, work a deeeeeeeep bassline into "To Be With You", definitely a workout for the subs. Contact: Mario 201-481-0336 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW MEAL POWER RECORDS (ITALY): "My House"--Double Impact (MP 70) Wow!!! Yet another Italian import with a definite representation of the "Brooklyn House Sound." If anyone remembers the Frankie Bones/Break Boys track "My House is Your House...." from 1990 then this will seem like a remix. Using the same male vocal sample and intense organ and techno styled keyboards, this track can work well in both a house set and early in a techno set. Contact: ????????? 011-44-02-58012071 FAX: 011-44-02-55400364/58012566 (Note: 011-44 is for US callers only) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY HYPE RECORDS: "You Used To Hold Me '94"--Ralphi Rosario feat. Xaviera Gold (SH-112) Well, here we are, yet another remix of "You Used To Hold Me," but wait, this is a double 12" with 12 mixes by all the hot remixers: MAW, DJ EFX, Maurice Joshua,..... My pick, however, is DJ Hyperactive's "Chicago 303 Mix" which gets Ms. Gold involved in the retro-acid "thang." Amazing how great this song can sound to even the hardest of dancefloors. SLAM IT!!!! For lovers of the original, go with Ralphi's "Riviera" mix which works that original keyboard line to the bone. Contact: Tania 708-678-1271 FAX: 708-678-1272 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FREEZE RECORDS: "Puerto Rico"--Frankie Cutlass (Hoody Records 50047) Blowing up all over NYC, this has been THE CHANT record in the clubs for the past month or so. (Thanks also to Hot 97 for picking up on it so quickly) Basically we get a hard hip-hop track with great lyrics and an bassline made for the subs. Check it out!! "Puerto Rico, OHHHHHHH......" "The Todd Terry Unreleased Project Part 5" (TNT-09) Mr. Todd Terry delivers with another sample track EP. Todd goes back into the vaults to nail some old school house jams. Anybody remember "Don't Stop It" by DMS on Cutting Records a few years back? Well, Todd put the great organ filled "Keep on Pressing On" dub on this record and added bits and pieces of Two Without Hat's "The Breeze," calling it "Nitty Gritty." A must have for all DJs. Contact: Richie Rich 212-243-1189 FAX: 212-243-1089 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NERVOUS RECORDS: "Tales From the RZ"--Beltram Presents (SO-20082) Joey Beltram serves up a tasty house styled record with a remix of Xavier Gold's "You Used To Hold Me" flying around an 130 BPM acidic typhoon. Contact: Nick 212-730-7160 FAX: 212-730-7130 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "The Tribal EP"--River Ocean feat. India (SR EP-4) Well, leave it to the Masters At Work to strike again with another "never-been done" record. This track features vocals in the Yoruba language handled ever so brilliantly by India (My favorite female vocalist). Coupled with live congas and latin percussion from Tito Puente, this song is causing quite a stir. The 12" mix with full vocals works well but you must also mix in the "Junior Boys Own Super Dub" on the second 12" (That's right, Strictly's first double 12"). The vocal breakdown is one that brings people to their knees at around 2 AM on a loud system. "Come and Take A Trip"--Smooth Touch feat. Althea McQueen (SR-12228) Erick Morillo is back (seems like it was only a week?), but on this 12", he shows us something a little different. A classic disco loop (re-played, not sampled) runs throughout with a stiff drum track and pumping vocals from the "Queen" of the house, Althea McQueen. "More"--The Erick Morillo EP (SR EP-3) This man has been responsible for Strictly Rhythm's resurgence in the 12" market. His list of hits goes on and on: The New Anthem, Go On Move, I Like To Move It, UNBE, House of Love........ 5 cuts are featured, one hip-hop, the rest, strong house tracks. My picks have to be "Toety" which HOT 97 (NYC) DJ Glen Friscia has been pumping since November!!!! This one sounds like a remake of the "Anasthasia-"ized" Muevelo Remix but with a much harder hip-hop beat. "Back In My House" yet again works Althea McQueen's "fierce" vocals with a new organ track. "Asuca"--R.A.W. (SR-12215) Once again, Erick Morillo offers up a house track perfect for any DJ. "Asuca" uses a sinewy bassline and samples from "Muevelo" to make it familiar. Contact: Bari 212-246-0026 FAX: 212-246-2191 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: bdavis@netcom.com Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com The Remix Warehouse: ShawnM7768@aol.com Your Beat Records: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE YOUR BEAT RECORDS TOP 12 12"S 3/7/94 1. I Like To Move It--Reel to Real 2. Beautiful People- Barbara Tucker 3. Been a Long Time- The Fog 4. Woman Say So- Terror Fabulous 5. Limb by Limb 6. Asuca- RAW 7. Go-san-do--The Tribe 8. Rich Girl 9. Puerto Rico- Frankie Cutlass 10. Mass Appeal- Gangstarr 11. Runaway love 12. C.R.E.A.M.- Wu-Tang Clan ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For any questions, comments, etc. please contact: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Help support the underground that supports you!!! For back issues of the UPDATE, check the pub/raves/music/dj/dj-trax directory at the techno.stanford. edu ftp site. If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ******************************************************************************** This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ******************************************************************************** To find out how to subscribe to the YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE, "finger" jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu. ******************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 01:09:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: Farewell! In case y'all have not noticed, I have not been around lately. If you're new and don't know me, that's what the future is for. The discussion list traffic has proven too high for the amount of time I have been able to devote to the net. I have set my optins at no mail for now. This means if you need or want to get in contact with me it must be through email : houghton@mail.sas.upenn.edu I am a queer child in Philly, so keep me informed if y'all doing anything near my city. I will still have the ROM, and personal corespondance with many of you. Perhaps I will see you at Kick-it in Philly, Future Groove in LI, and yes, neith, even RED in MA. Don't forget about me. be well, boyPrincealbert - bPa - stephen ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 02:26:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Mission Update ...we now bring you an update on the return voyage of that daring cultural envoy and observer, Spaceman Spliff - the intrepid being from "who knows where" ( actually New Zealand but that used to be a well kept secret ) and now soon to be zapping back to Boston, USA. Previous reports had placed the blast off on the return voyage around the 27th of March - due to space problems, we couldn't get his bum on the seat until around the 4th of April. Good news & bad news as while he's delayed his departure, he will be around for Alphabet Soup in Sydney on the 26th and (hopefully) Prodigy 5 or something better on the Easter weekend. The delay has also provided extra time for Spliff to get re-acclimatized to the Boston environment. Currently this involves spending as much time as possible in the freezers at the local Supermarket. In a pinch, sitting in the fridge at home has been working reasonably well too... More information as it comes to hand... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:30:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Future Groove Cybertribe, A small complaint: Why weren't there any fliers for Future Groove at The Fantasy Project this past Saturday? Is someone getting them to Kick It in Philly next Friday? Is the event still going to happen? Mars ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:34:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Planet Earth Cybertribe: Essence presents... P L A N E T E A R T H Saturday May 14, 1994 (516)547-6192 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:37:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Orgasm Cybertribe, Canned Meat Productions presents... O R G A S M with DJ's: Spam [not from caffeine] Bosko Bill Kramer [from upnorth producitons] Toothpaste spinning techno, trance, house, & breakbeat every Wednesday 10pm - ??? Location: Dicky's, 33 Academy St., Poughkeepsie, NY Price: $3 w/ flier, $5 w/o ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:44:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Motion Cybertribe, Due to some freak of nature, Eddie Van Raven and I both decided to call our parties "Motion" and their only happening a week apart, but since he had full color fliers printed up for his event, we are changing the name of our event to either "Perpetual Motion" or "Movement." Fliers will be out this week for that. On with the info: Guided by the waves of sound our bodies flow to the rythm [nice misspelling maybe they should learn how to use a spell checker] M O T I O N April 9th, 1994 Masters of Sound: frankie bones jimmy crash tiga onionz micro james christian k-5 papa Motion Line: 212.465.3290 Motion is a proud supporter of S.U.N. Summer '94 $12 tickets available at Groove Records 718.714.5232 DJ Records 516.667.1112 Chop Shop 516.354.0606 [I don't feel like listing the rest...I think most of us are going to Pleasure Dome anyway.] ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:30:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Juliane Knadle Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Juliane Knadle Subject: Subscribe.. Hello. I got this address from a friend of mine at Berkeley. He said this address would give me all of the latest information. Thank you, Julie knadle@oswego.oswego.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 12:36:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Worcester Acid Party Review Wondering how that Worcester underground went on Saturday night? Well I'm going to tell you anyway. :> First of all, the party didn't end up being FREE. Lack of communication between Joel and myself. I hope noone was too put off by the $5 admission charge at the door to cover Carlos' and Denard's fees. More on that later. We set up and were playing at the original warehouse site by 10:30 pm on Saturday. Not to many people, but it was early yet. I think it was around 12 when a complaining neighbor (from a nearby apt complex) and the owner of the building showed up. The owner bowed to pressure from the neighbor and told us to vacate. We had a backup site ready and we packed it all up and moved there within an hour. By then Denard and Carlos had showed up and were already at the alternate site. It was in a basement (via a first floor-thru apartment). The people who's place it was ended up being a FOAFOAFOAF... (oh well. they had thrown various parties there before and she seemed pretty cool about it). There was already a party going on at this apartment (like 40+ people) plus the 50+ people we brought and then other throughout the night who kept showing up. So down in the basement we go to set up. We've got a 300W amp and a couple of 175W speakers. Pretty pumpin' for about 2 hours or so until we blew them during Carlos' set of mindfuck acid trance (absolutely brilliantly beautiful, but then again, what else would it be?). Joel and I then ran out to a friends to get a 250W car double 12" subwoofer box to power the party for another half hour til we found a guy upstairs who would rent us a pair of 300W+/piece speakers. These speakers were huge (for this party) and VERY nice sounding. Carlos finished up his set on these while a crowd of probably 30-40 people were hoppin' mad to his crazy acid madness. Carlos played for a total of 3 hours or so. Then Denard came on and played his ever evolving unique style of EVERYTHING. Acid trance/ acid house/bleepy trippy/dripping acidhousecore....ahhhhhh..... He played for over 4 hours til about 9am or so. Heaven. About 3 hours through his set, however, the new BIGGER speakers went too. He played for last hour on those tweeters and the 250W kicker box. Joel came on after that and played for 3 hours til around 12:30pm. BTW, even with the relocation, and the two sets of blown speakers, the party never stopped, the sound never stopped (pushed alot of sound through those tweeters!!), and most importantly the people and vibe never stopped. There were probably 100+ people at it's peak, both upstairs and downstairs. What an utter joy and blissful feeling to hear, see and feel _that_ vibe again. Grooving for hours in a dark basement with everyone either dancing or twitching :) to the acid dripping out of the speakers. It reminded me of the first techno party I ever went to in Boston almost two years ago with Joel, Donato and Becca!! Lots of new faces getting into the groove. BTW, they only collected like about 10% of the budget for this party. With the move to the other site, the admission charge wasn't going to work and not too many people gave donations. Donation parties are expensive! ;) Thanks Paul Paul and Donato for showing up. I didn't see much of you guys as we were running around putting this thang together! Hope you had a good time! Did I miss anybody who was also there!? More underground acid trance parties in MA coming up... later dave. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:40:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: every saturdayb night!!! hello all that live i new york, i am sending out some great info on the weekly rave at the ithaca state street theatre in Ithaca, New York. the raves are $3 ($2 with flyer) to get in. they start around 11:30 pm and end when people leave.... that is a major variable i am sure that if a hundred ravers were stomping away at 6:30, they would keep it going. remember that this is in a theatre. therefore, there is NO ALCOHOL allowed no need for ID!!!! all ages are welcome the Dj is fantastic, his name is wilhelm and he spins prog. house, acid trance, tribal house, retro/disco, and all styles of techno that you can dance to. i am way too worn out to write more about this event, and i will give everyone an update when i regain my energy. goot bie fur nau UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:08:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day damn! i didn't notice that :( by the way.... i wake up at "8:08" every day :) funky, huh? UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:13:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: gabberhead gabber??????? gabber!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! who's gabbertape?????? please!!!!!!! (trying to contain excitement... can't do it....) AAAAAAAAAMMMMMSTTTEEEERRRRDAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! phew reply asap! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:16:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: ride to pleasure dome i need a ride to pleasure dome, i will pay for a bus trip, or gas for a car please respond to my e-mail address thank you very much any info on bus or car transport is greatly appreciated! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 14:59:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Asif Ikram Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Asif Ikram Subject: UK:USA djmix tapes UK:USA DJ MIX TAPE SERVICE Welcome to the DJ connection service Recommended listening:Joey Beltram Tony Miles Sven Vath at Clubnight(LIVE) Felix Allen Laurent Garnier Easygroove Dave Angel at Hyperspace Jimmy Crash(x-crash) New Arrivals: Laurent Garnier Warehouse Cologne 8/93 *various* SPIRAL TRIBE England 6/93 Felix Allen KISS FM London 2/94 Pablo Garciano/ Hellraiser Belfast 7/93 Frank Zapella When oredring tapes, please remember to clearly state the catalogue#(S) of the tape(s) you want & don't forget to enclose your name & address. Payment can be made by cash, check, or money order.(please make checks out to A. Ikram). No charge for Shipping-It's FREE(unless your outside the USA). Delivery will be within the week, depending on how busy we are. Please send all orders to: UK:USA DJ MIX TAPE Service 5512 Wilkins Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15217 USA, Planet Earth All tapes are on chrome cassetes and are for $6 each ($5 each for 4 or more). Most were recorded on DAT & all are top quality 1st generation recordings. If you have any TAPES TO TRADE(especially U.S. ones), suggestions, comments, or complaints we will be glad to hear from you. If there are any Dj's not on our list which you are interested in, let us know & we will try to get them. SPREAD THE SOUND. *NOTE Apologies to those who received non-chrome(type I) tapes a few weeks back. Due to unexpected high demand we ran out of all our chrome tapes & as a result of a massive snowstorm were not able to get some for some time. So if ur ordering again just put in a reminder & we'll throw in a free mix of your choice. All will be on chrome this time. tape# DJ event location style date 1 Jimmy Crash(x-crash) Thunderground NY hard techno 3/93 2 Roland Casper Warehouse Cologne techno/acid 4/93 3 CJ Bolland ? Amsterdam hard techno 6/93 4 Marusha Resi Nurnberg hard techno 8/93 5 Tanith Oz Club Stuttgart hard techno 6/93 6 Joey Beltram The Producer England hard techno 7/93 7 *various* SPIRAL TRIBE England acid/techno 6/93 8 Easygroove ? England hard acid 8/93 9 P-mak Acid Frenzy Glascow acid/techno 6/93 10 KAS Subliminal Rythms Glascow hard acid 9/93 11 240572 -studio- London acid/techno 8/93 12 DJ Tom -studio_ Germany hard techno 6/93 13 Sven Vath vol. 1 Frankfurt hard techno 4/93 14 Sven Vath vol. 2 Frankfurt hard techno 5/93 15 Sven Vath Clubnight(LIVE) Frankfurt hard trance 7/93 16 Sven Vath/Dave Angel Universe England hard techno 9/93 17 Dave Angel Hyperspace Plymouth techno 5/93 18 Derek May Hyperspace Plymouth techno 5/93 19 Colin Dale Hyperspace Plymouth techno 5/93 20 Chez Damier Strings of Life Reading techno 8/93 21 Colin Faver Strings of Life Reading techno 8/93 22 T. Rockcliffe Strings of Life Reading techno 8/93 23 Carl Cox Good Friday England breakbeat 5/93 24 Mickey Finn ? England breakbeat 7/93 25 SWANE 2 ? England breakbeat 7/93 26 Tony Miles PLANET FM-studio London acid 6/93 27 Felix Allen PLANET FM-studio London acid/techno 2/94 28 Laurent Garnier Warehouse Cologne techno 8/93 29 Pablo Garciano/ Hellraiser Belfast techno 7/93 Frank Zapella NEW TAPES ON THE WAY:Mark Spoon & Sven Vath Omen Frankfurt 4 new Sven Vath(acid trance mixes)from Omen 11/93(2),12/93&1/94 Orb LIVE Brixton Academy London 11/93 S.F. Dj's Doc Marten, Josh, Wink, etc. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 15:13:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403071909.OAA16001@umd5.umd.edu> ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU writes: > damn! > i didn't notice that :( > by the way.... > i wake up at "8:08" every day :) > funky, huh? > > UP-tempo! > > 1000 > that's what's my alarm is set to every morning! >.taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:11:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Future Groove? Heya! This is my pleading case :) I have to be in Binghamton, New York on Friday night and Saturday afternoon.....and I would LOVE and be ever thankful if anyone would be willing to pick me up on their way to LI and possibly give me a ride back to Baltimore [No, I won't be with Gil so don't even ask that.....] HUGZ!!!! Melzie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 16:39:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: P909 LIVE TAPES AVAILABLE (finally) for those of you who've been asking.. the PROTOTYPE 909 live tapes are finally ready. the first one is avalable: PROTOTYPE 909 LIVE:000 SCRANTON, PA 11.12.93 time: 30mins48secs equipment: tr808.tr606.tb303.sh101(2).Jupiter6.mm1.rds1900 this is a live recording. mistakes and all. $5 from: taylor 115 wyckoff st #4 brooklyn, NY 11201 \ feel free to email if you have questions. coming soon P909 LIVE001 PLEASUREDOME! peace. enjoy love, t. __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 17:38:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: speed limit 140+ bpm 4 is out!! just got speed limit 140 bpm plus volume four today at tower rekkids... i haven't listened to it all yet..but from the tracks i've heard before/ listened to, it's phat. tracks are as follows ARTIST TITLE 1. top buzz living in darkness 2. bay b kane wake up 3. 4 horsemen of the apocalypse drowning in her 4. origin unknown 31 seconds 5. omni trio renegade snares (foul play remix) 6. dj crystl crystlize 7. new romancer pennywise 8. slm die hard 9. bonny & highlander summer breeze 10.cloud 9 mr. logic 11.tayla & ltj bukem bang the drum 12.metalheads saint angel laters, casper p.s. If you are going to be in Boston for Jetta's microrave, please let me know if you are coming to the preparty/dinner at mit....thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:28:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Allison Thurman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Allison Thurman Subject: women? im currently working on an article about women in the rave and nightlife scenes - club owners, promoters, djs, magazine editors, anything. im curious as to any discrimination or special treatment women experience that is different from the men in these fields. please send any stories you (or a freind) have experienced to athurman@phoenix.cs.uga.edu, and thanks in advance! allison ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 18:50:35 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: INFO: Planet Earth In-Reply-To: <199403071707.MAA28873@umd5.umd.edu> >DATE: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 11:34:18 EST >FROM: Marshal H. Villarosa > >Cybertribe: > >Essence presents... > >P L A N E T E A R T H > >Saturday May 14, 1994 > >(516)547-6192 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I just called this phone number, which is for a realty company. The correct number is (516)547-6129. Bob ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:24:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day funny....i always set my alarm to 8:08 as well..... ;) -j/m1 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:52:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Hom-1 hey... what is HOM... is it like a RAVE-O-MATIC that tells who is going to the raves? Cause if it is you can put my name on it... I'm going to RED but I live about two towns away so I probably won't be able to pick anyone up. Also, that outdoor event in the summer (was it Rainbow?) sounds promising. > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:53:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: National 303 Day >that's what's my alarm is set to every morning! Dang. Mine is set for 6:00 .... > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 19:54:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: GOOD BYE ALL Not to alarm you... i'm not really leaving. BUT my address is changing since AOL was too expensive from the beginning and now I have an internet BBS address. So please, send all mail that was for to Okay? thanks... > % % %% %%% % % < > % %% % % % % % < (now ) > %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno > % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation > % % % % % % % < > %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited remember, that's DRELB@NORDHEIM!EDU Oh yeah one thing... if you reply to any of my messages, you'll have to change the "to" field because for some reason it says drelb@ulowell.uml.edu and not drelb@nordheim!uml.edu which is what it should be. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:01:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: Fantasy Project Absolutely amazing party! The space and the setup were great, the sound system was loud and clear. The only thing that pissed me off was the (very) invasive search and the "no food or water" policy. That's completely wack. However, the music was better than anything else I've heard in the last few months. I missed Osheen, Troposphere, Frankie Bones, and Marshall 'cause we didn't leave Boston till 10 and the directions were fucked up. We got there at around 3 when John Williams went on. His and Doc Martin's sets were pretty experimental, the music did unexpected twists and turns and I was just stunned. Then Micro and Luis came on around 7, and they had layer upon layer of tracks going on 4 decks and it blew me away. As for the vibe, I didn't feel uncomfortable at all. Saw a lot of friends from Boston, Providence, Connecticut and New York and it was cool to hang with them. Anyone who missed out is bummed... One of the lucky ones, weien@pageworks.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:50:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: women? I'm curious to know...do you guys think that raves are events where sexual harassement is less or more likely to occur than in other kinds of concerts, partys, dance clubs, etc..Do the women on the list feel that they are less likely to be annoyed and pestered at a rave than other "similar" social gatherings? terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 22:34:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: women? ------------------------- I'm curious to know...do you guys think that raves are events where sexual harassement is less or more likely to occur than in other kinds of concerts, partys, dance clubs, etc..Do the women on the list feel that they are less likely to be annoyed and pestered at a rave than other "similar" social gatherings? terence --------------------------------------------------------- A definite No to that question, unfortunately. I went to Fantasy Project with a couple friends who are girls, and they got hassled by the piggish security guards, who really took a lot of pleasure in going through other people's stuff. It was sickening, and on the way home we were talking about it. That situation was the only bringdown, otherwise it was a mid-blowing party. At least they had a woman security guard doing the frisking for the girls, it would have been a good idea to have another one to search bags, etc. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 22:39:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <199403080316.WAA21782@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Terence R. Strick wrote: > I'm curious to know...do you guys think that raves are events where sexual > harassement is less or more likely to occur than in other kinds of concerts, > partys, dance clubs, etc..Do the women on the list feel that they are > less likely to be annoyed and pestered at a rave than other "similar" > social gatherings? well, except for the gangstas looking for "bitches" and the people who look like they got the wrong address for the mettalica concert.... i think guys will harass women whereever you go. but, possibly less so at a rave, or around other "ravers". i don't know...a while ago i probably would've said that raves would be more of a safe haven for women, but the crowd seems to have gotten way more attitude...maybe.. chris -- We pray the acids of House. We promise you the future of House. * finger for pgp key ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 22:28:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: crash space 4 future groove? can anyone in the long island area offer crash space for mistress loretta and i for future groove? or can anyone suggest a CHEAP motel within the island that is near the site? thankx alot:) peaz out....peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 23:49:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080051.TAA03629@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU wrote: > funny....i always set my alarm to 8:08 as well..... ;) > > -j/m1 > What, you don't set yours to 3:03?!?!?! heh ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:15:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JOWLEY@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: women? speaking as a woman I would like to praise the rave scene for its lack of drunken slobs looking to pick up women Of course there is no way to escape the occasional obnoxious guy who wants to bother you BUT there are not even 1/10 as many at raves. I liek to be able to dance with some one or next to someone and it means nothing more tahn the two of you happen to be standing next to each other dancing. that is one of the best things about the rave *vibe* so think I love jess ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 00:52:28 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080056.TAA04205@umd5.umd.edu> ~ On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU wrote: > funny....i always set my alarm to 8:08 as well..... ;) > > -j/m1 > Mine is always set to 9:09 in bed room to wake me up and 3:03pm in my studio to alert me to go catch my bus to work. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:12:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Butcher Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Butcher Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080600.BAA11545@umd5.umd.edu> I think all this x0x worship is getting stupid ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Butcher tb303+@cmu.edu email me for my PGP key ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:17:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080616.BAA12100@umd5.umd.edu> from "Thomas C Butcher" at Mar 8, 94 01:12:54 am Dans la Matrice, Thomas C Butcher a dit: > > I think all this x0x worship is getting stupid > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Tom Butcher > tb303+@cmu.edu email me for my PGP key /^^^\ You think so? :) Seriously, this is beginning to feel very bandwagonish... (which seems to be a parameter of the rave scene). Music is much more than just what gear a band use... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 01:41:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day regarding bit's view that roland x0x worship is getting outta hand.. i totally completly 100% agree as a tr-808 owner, i know firsthand that these machines are just that: MACHINES not electronic godlike instruments we have to bow down and worship. you want the truth? i've found that i get more use from the 808 kits that ive sampled then from programming the actuall machine *looking for lightning to strike me dead* i've noticed that a LOT of people are judging people on the gear that they use. i have to take an opposing view to this; its not what you hav, its how you use it. case closed. yeah, i do set my alarm to 8:08, but ive been doing that for YEARS (just call me an above average 808 state fan...:) ) and, oh yeah, im selling the 808....so there! (and getting an oberheim matrix 6r...not as drool-worthy to some, but MUCH more useful!) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 03:36:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: National 303 Day hee hee...as a DJ with late classes I get to set my alarm to 1200 hours... yah yah...so I'm wasting bandwidth...so sue me. see everyone at Kick It and Future Groove later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 04:53:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080050.TAA03468@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU wrote: > funny....i always set my alarm to 8:08 as well..... ;) I generally set my alarm clock to Korg M1. Dan Ps. I actually set it to 2:30pm. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 04:57:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <199403080316.WAA21792@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Terence R. Strick wrote: > I'm curious to know...do you guys think that raves are events where sexual > harassement is less or more likely to occur than in other kinds of concerts, > partys, dance clubs, etc.. Personally I think that any social gathering that deemphasizes alcohol is bound to decrease sexual harrasment. Personally I think alcohol is one of the nastiest drugs around. But then again, there is the grand amount of E and 2cb (YAY!) to be found at raves. I guess that should up the amount of sexual harrasment.. But it doesn't, I mean who has time to be rude to women when the earth at your feet feels so dang good. ;) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 06:21:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <199403080322.WAA22485@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Terence R. Strick wrote: > I'm curious to know...do you guys think that raves are events where sexual > harassement is less or more likely to occur than in other kinds of concerts, > partys, dance clubs, etc..Do the women on the list feel that they are > less likely to be annoyed and pestered at a rave than other "similar" > social gatherings? Depends.....I mean, I don't know if any of you remember Mongrel from last year....but...well.....I KNOW what frisking is..and WHERE has to be frisked.....and believe me...some of the places they checked were not exactly the "usual" and well, mf bf was with me that night...somehow he got off with tem noly touching the outside rfame and his pockets. But that's the people OUTside and not other ravers and such. Mel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 07:11:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 7 Mar 1994 20:50:47 -0500 from I have never had a problem with being bothered at a rave. Of course I really ha ven't been to that many, but it just seems that more people are interested in m eeting and maybe talking to you (especially if you are on the Net and have some identifying marker such as a badge...). I have had it happen that a complete stranger will give me a hug, and then wander off, but I don't think that it was intended as anything more than just a friendly "hi". However, if you are indeed going to a rave, and trying to use it as a pick- up spot, there is a lot of possibility for that to occur. Generally, women are not being pestered , at least I haven't been, as I would be if I were at a conc ert or club. It isn't the vibe that I get at a rave. Just my opinion.... Becca MD ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 08:10:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: crash space 4 future groove? In-Reply-To: <199403080419.XAA00775@umd5.umd.edu> >DATE: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 22:28:54 -0500 >FROM: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM > >can anyone in the long island area offer crash space for mistress loretta >and i for future groove? or can anyone suggest a CHEAP motel within the >island that is near the site? thankx alot:) >peaz out....peppermint patty:) > Patty, Unfortunately, beacuse I live at home, I can't offer you and Loretta crash space. However, if you happen to know what town FG is going to be held in, let me know ... I'll call around and find prices for some motels. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 09:00:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Burney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Burney Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <199403080400.XAA27123@umd5.umd.edu>; from "secret agent #33" at Mar 7, 94 10:39 pm > > On Mon, 7 Mar 1994, Terence R. Strick wrote:> > well, except for the gangstas looking for "bitches" and the people who > look like they got the wrong address for the mettalica concert.... > should'nt that be 'biatches' ;).... goldenboy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 09:03:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Burney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Burney Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080556.AAA11239@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Joe LeSesne" at Mar 8, 94 12:52 am > > ~ > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU wrote: > > > funny....i always set my alarm to 8:08 as well..... ;) > > my alarm clock and i dont have a very good relationship ;) we fight every morning...*beep* *beep* *THWAP*...*beep* *beep* *THWAP*... :) goldenboy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:04:04 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: gabberhead amsterdam??? well, gabber is mainly (and originately) from rotterdam :-) psyched ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 10:46:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , VISUAL MARK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: VISUAL MARK Subject: looking for Mike Shum If anyone could please send me Mike Shum's e-mail address I would appreciate it. Sorry for wasted bandwidth. Heather Erb herb@vax.clarku.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:21:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hank Hughes Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hank Hughes Subject: Re: speed limit 140+ bpm 4 is out!! Yes, it's out! If you wanna hear some of it - it's on my World Wide Web page. Using an application like xmosaic typ and then insert the address: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/USER/thigpen/index.html click on the ne-raves badge and click on techno music samples ... there you are! Only the first minute of each song is available :( But It's still a sampling -HANK/thigpen ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:30:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rob Hwang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rob Hwang Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <199403080521.AAA08631@umd5.umd.edu> from "UMDD.UMD.EDU!NE-RAVES" at Mar 8, 94 00:15:08 am > > speaking as a woman I would like to praise the rave scene for its lack of > drunken slobs looking to pick up women > Of course there is no way to escape the occasional obnoxious guy who wants to > bother you BUT there are not even 1/10 as many at raves. I liek to be > able to dance with some one or next to someone and it means nothing more > tahn the two of you happen to be standing next to each other dancing. > that is one of the best things about the rave *vibe* > so think I > love > jess > Incidentally, this brings something up that bothers me.. It's happened more than once that while I'm dancing at a rave, I look around and see who's around me. Occasionally, a woman notices me looking around and picks up and leaves -- which makes me feel quite bad as I don't have any pick-up intentions, nor am I leering at anyone's body, but it seems that I've ruined somebody's enjoyment of the rave. Question to women: If a guy glances at you while you're dancing, does it make you feel threatened? Is it a particular type of "look"? (I'm certainly not looking and drooling, more of a glance and then back to dancing...) (On the other hand, I should mention that once or twice I've looked around and exchanged happy smiles with ravers, male and female, on occasion.) Rob rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:56:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 8 Mar 1994 12:30:34 -0500 from Rob: I have certainly had my share of male and female ravers looking at me while I dance. I have been complimented many times by complete strangers. No, a guy l ooking at me while I am dancing doesn't bother me, unless he then proceeds to t ry and "get closer". :) So you are in no danger, and I would wonder what other problems that particular female raver had to make her shy away from a friendly face in a crowd.... Becca MD :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:32:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <9403081732.AA00860@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Rob Hwang" at Mar 8, 94 12:30 pm > > bother you BUT there are not even 1/10 as many at raves. I liek to be > > able to dance with some one or next to someone and it means nothing more > > tahn the two of you happen to be standing next to each other dancing. > > that is one of the best things about the rave *vibe* > > so think I > > love > > jess > > about this, i donno but although raves are not a meet market, it is much more a place to meet someone from the opposite sex. for example after a rave this year i got a ride back from two women from my school and the whole ride back they were talking like "Man did you see XXX, he is good looking. And he can dance too, etc. etc." for basically the whole ride back from balt to dc. so it just seems that the "forget gender, your just there to dance" thing really isnt alive as it is anymore. Maybe cause raves just arn't as underground anymore, and it is now more just a scene. > > Incidentally, this brings something up that bothers me.. It's happened more > than once that while I'm dancing at a rave, I look around and see who's > around me. Occasionally, a woman notices me looking around and > picks up and leaves -- which makes me feel quite bad as I don't have > any pick-up intentions, nor am I leering at anyone's body, but it > seems that I've ruined somebody's enjoyment of the rave. > > Question to women: If a guy glances at you while you're > dancing, does it make you feel threatened? Is it a particular type of > "look"? (I'm certainly not looking and drooling, more of a glance and then > back to dancing...) When im dancing and more when im not dancing i look around any anyone women, or man that is a good dancer, they will attract my attention and ill be like "wow a good dancer" and if they are really good ill go up and shake their hand and tell them i think so. (and also try and steal a few steps along the way ;) > > > Rob > rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca > peace, _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ ________________ feel the music soft and mellow __________ ______ _____ ____ ___ __ _ _ _ doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu dz5401a@american.edu and soon spunky@cybernet.cse.fau.edu dj dougiefresh r o c k i n d a t a b l e s. t.u.r. - y. r ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:47:15 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: FIRST TECHNO EXPERIENCES In-Reply-To: <9403011928.AA20605@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Mel-zo-rama" at Mar 1, 94 2:08 pm first techno experiences... umm there the summer and spring back in 1992 when my borhters were buying this msuic called techno, and all that which was kind-of funky. From my R&B/Rap msuic i began to check otu some of the msuic they were buying on CD, the one's that had like the different James Brown'ss on it and songs like Putra MAdre and Dominator and it was really good to dance to. Went to a club in Westchester Cty. that summer and had my first experiene dancing to techno (although it wasnt like a rave) and then came to dc and went to this rave in a parking garage in Bethesda MD and continued from there doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 13:51:20 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: Minor Infraction In-Reply-To: <9403011930.AA20617@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Vanessa Wang" at Mar 1, 94 2:12 pm Hey Vanessa! whats up? its cool to see the Wellesley rave is going ahead. how is the planning going and all? hope things go well peace doug 0 9 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:26:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: fantproj/women/DJ I have to agree with what a lot of people have said on here. I _do_ notice the attractive women/girls at raves, but I have never once thought of trying to pick one of them up....it just isn't the right place. Somebody, i think Rob mentioned that he looked at a woman, just looking around, and she walked away: I don't think this is because you glanced at her. Everybody I know has had that happen, they are looking at somebody who is a really good dancer, and then that dancer (of the opposite sex) leaves. It's just bad timing in my opinion. think of all the people that have just looked at you and then you walk away, to get something to drink, look for a friend, etcetera. I used to think that people (specifically women) were leaving on my account. I realized that that was not the case, it was just the natural flow/rythm/ebb of the crowd----> that girl leaves, then another few people (male/female) take her place. I was just being self-concious, since she happens to leave soon after _I_ had glanced at her.... about Fantasy Project::: The music was great at the beginning (when I got there it was around 11:00). it got too hard-corey for my tastes for a bit, and then frankie bones came on and amazed me...personally I thought that he was great. me, being the stupid one, spent most of the evening half asleep/half awake in the middle of the dance floor (with _how_ many watts pounding my ears??? *grin*), and we left around 5:30ish.... IMHO, I paid too much money for too little comforts delivered. Security was too tight, no water or food from the outside, it was _way_ too cold inside (or was it just me?) and the place was ___too___ big. If any people were 'vibing', the space was too big for their effect to be felt. The lights were amazing, Jake did an amazing job with the computer graphics on the wall. (I stared at them for hours), but I would have rather spent the evening in my room listening to my compilation tapes, because the trip itself was rather tiring. It was a good experience, however, but I don't think I will go to any big events again that cost more than $10.00 unless something special is going on. (like a net-gathering, etcetera) -Akeera, sorry to ramble ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 15:33:16 CST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , aaron stigberg Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: aaron stigberg Could someone tell me the command to get on this freakin list? I'm gettin no help, just "Hello"s. Aaron Stigberg of Chicago Hardcore Authority. sti3@midway.uchicago.edu "I wish I could live in the ambient dream, but I have to face reality." - Goldie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:34:34 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: Worcester Acid Party Review In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 07 Mar 94 12:36:58 -0500. <9403072222.AA04677@MIT.EDU> sounds like an awesome party. i want to hear this guy carlos real bad. and denard is godly... my ride turned ill and uninspired to go...so i got baked with shawn and we played records all night...chill. take care dave, i'm still trying to get out to one of these parties... shannon p.s. there's a party in maine this weekend!!! (i'm excited anyway...) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:37:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: badges order Just want to make sure that you got my badge order. Did youz/ I'm not planning on being out this weekend. Should I send you a check? Thanks for takeing this on. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 16:54:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: every saturdayb night!!! In-Reply-To: <9403072308.AA28791@helios.tn.cornell.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 7, 94 1:40 pm > > hello all that live i new york, i am sending out some great info on the > weekly rave at the ithaca state street theatre in Ithaca, New York. > the raves are $3 ($2 with flyer) to get in. > they start around 11:30 pm and end when people leave.... that is a major > variable > i am sure that if a hundred ravers were stomping away at 6:30, they would > keep it going. > remember that this is in a theatre. therefore, there is NO ALCOHOL allowed > no need for ID!!!! all ages are welcome > the Dj is fantastic, his name is wilhelm and he spins prog. house, acid trance, > tribal house, retro/disco, and all styles of techno that you can dance to. i hate to bust your bubble...but i can't let this slide without offering up my opinion....wilhelm is not fantastic. at best, he's alright. as far as being a dj goes, that too is questionable...he's more like a jukebox. he doesn't even TRY to create a vibe for the crowd to get into, i.e. he doesn't even try some beat-matching to keep one song flowing into the next. instead, you'll be grooving to some cool acid-trance and then all of a sudden, BAMMM, here comes something completely different with gothic-style, industrial sounding samples that just doesn't belong there! (from his earlier days of djing) other than that though, it IS a great location and blossoming scene that features ACTUAL djs, with a more rave-like vibe and professional production about once a month (so i gather from conversations with the organisers about the future). keep it live - a al > i am way too worn out to write more about this event, and i will give everyone > an update when i regain my energy. > > goot bie fur nau > > UP-tempo! > > 1000 > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Mar 1994 13:59:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Motion Info hey DJ Mars! how's it going i won't be able to make it to future groove because of lack of money :( i can afford to get in, but not to get there :( if you are still interested in selling the ALLES record, e-mail me back thank you very much have a great time! UP-tempo! 1000 (devoted fan to "Stek Dat Weazle the Engineer) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:12:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: RED TICKETS AND PRE-GATHERING Chris Mellow and I are offering our services to purchase advanced tickets for Red, which I understand are $15 in advance, $25 at the door. So, if you want us to pick one up for you, please mail jshiple@amt.mit.edu or cmellow@world.std.com And no maybe's please....if you e-mail us, you have to give us money even if you don't go :) (well, maybe not cause we'll probably be able to sell your ticket at the door...:) ) Also, we want to have some sort of pre-meeting, so y'all can get the tickets.....so hopefully we can work something out about that... -John (handi) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:16:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: Motion Info In-Reply-To: <9403082209.AA07251@helios.tn.cornell.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 7, 94 1:59 pm > > hey DJ Mars! > how's it going > i won't be able to make it to future groove because of lack of money :( > i can afford to get in, but not to get there :( hey robinS...if you can get to ithaca on saturday, or friday even, you might be able to catch a ride with me and some other people and we can all pitch in for gas. but plans are tentative so email me quickly: agranov@helios.tn.cornell.edu - a al the almighty provider of rides (too bad i don't have a license anymore though!) > if you are still interested in selling the ALLES record, e-mail me back > thank you very much > have a great time! > > UP-tempo! > > 1000 > (devoted fan to "Stek Dat Weazle the Engineer) > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:26:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Butcher Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Butcher Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403080638.BAA13186@umd5.umd.edu> > > I think all this x0x worship is getting stupid > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Tom Butcher > > tb303+@cmu.edu email me for my PGP key > /^^^\ > > You think so? :) hey I've had that for a while though! You'll also notice my initials "TB" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Butcher tb303+@cmu.edu email me for my PGP key ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 18:59:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , James Clyde Temple Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: James Clyde Temple Subject: well Does anybody have the Well gopher site address? It would be greatly appreciated if someone can e-mail it to me. Thanks, -jimB*B jtemple@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:06:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: Boston area people just two things: 1. if you're in the wellesley/natick area, tune in to 91.5fm on tuesday nights (techno nights): dj bruce from 5:30pm-7pm playing various techno djs jen and ann-marie from 7pm-9pm playing techno/industrial dj jetta from 9pm-11pm playing hard trance 2. minor infraction is still happening...call 617.283.1944 for details. later! wfs jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 19:36:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: Boston area people In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 08 Mar 94 19:06:47 -0500. <9403090007.AA20002@MIT.EDU> > just two things: > 1. if you're in the wellesley/natick area, tune in to 91.5fm on tuesday > nights (techno nights): > dj bruce from 5:30pm-7pm playing various techno > djs jen and ann-marie from 7pm-9pm playing techno/industrial > dj jetta from 9pm-11pm playing hard trance > 2. minor infraction is still happening...call 617.283.1944 for details. > later! > wfs > jetta. One more thing...come to Jimmy Hat's and mine's preparty before minor infraction.... We'll be hanging out, mixing, getting some dinner.....5 pm, 50 mass ave, MIT There will probably be enough people to give you a ride to minor infraction if you do not have a car. list of people who will be there so far... casper jimmy hat trevor duane bruce (driving) john/handi (possibly driving) jenberry (driving) jill/jmc stefan (driving) jenny bill/arevalo hank/thigpen (blading =) ) jim/jsexton (driving) Please email me if you are coming.....thanks! casper ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 17:56:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403081423.JAA05972@umd5.umd.edu> David Burney writes: > my alarm clock and i dont have a very good relationship ;) > > we fight every morning...*beep* *beep* *THWAP*...*beep* *beep* *THWAP*... :) ^-- isn't that a Polygon Window song? =-) - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:30:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Techno song site I recently found another ftp site that contains digitized song samples in .AU format. SOUNDS.SDSU.EDU /sounds/songs/techno Artists listed: 2 Unlimited 808 State Apotheosis GTO Intermix Low Atomic Movement Ottorongo Shamen I know, kind of commercial, but hey, it's music. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 22:45:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Help getting into REd! Hey all! Incase you didn't know by now (most of you don't) I happen to only be 15 (oh joy, remember those teenage years?) My problem is the stupid `18+ policy at RED. I'm wondering what's going to happen.. will I get in? Will I even get a ticket? Can they turn me away even though I payed big cash for a ticket? (I havent payed yet, so no money has been lost) Will thousands of cybertibers start a pickett line at Red? hee hee! I'm just pissed about this 18+ thing... I know they want the mall-rats and homeboy high-schoolers out so they don't cause trouble, but I'm hardly either of these.. Can anyone help me???? Bleh... Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:01:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Daniel J Nadeau Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Daniel J Nadeau Subject: Re: women? In-Reply-To: <199403081802.NAA06828@umd5.umd.edu> My .02 on this thread (or one of its tangents...) > > I like to be able to dance with some one or next to someone and it > >means nothing more than the two of you happen to be standing next to > >each other dancing. That is one of the best things about the rave *vibe* > > so think I > > love > > jess I couldn't agree with Jess more. One of my most favorite things in the world is sharing a vibe with somebody else in the groove. Just dancing near somebody who's also feelin' the vibe is a great feeling and IS NOT A COME-ON. > Incidentally, this brings something up that bothers me.. It's happened more > than once that while I'm dancing at a rave, I look around and see who's > around me. Occasionally, a woman notices me looking around and > picks up and leaves -- which makes me feel quite bad as I don't have > any pick-up intentions, nor am I leering at anyone's body, but it > seems that I've ruined somebody's enjoyment of the rave. I, too, have had that happen to me :( I tend to do a lot of looking around (soak in the visuals, dancing, etc.), and often when people catch my glance I get these snubby looks. Where's the PLUR? > (On the other hand, I should mention that once or twice I've looked around > and exchanged happy smiles with ravers, male and female, on occasion.) It doesn't happen often (for me, anyway), but when it does, it just brightens me right up. All too often my smiles are ignored :( Can I help it if I'm a happy and friendly guy? > Rob > rhwang@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca > Peace and harmony, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:12:42 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: hardcore techie question! this isnt' rave related , but oh well. i'm looking for someone/where to assist me in converting a text file.. to some kind of ascii audio dump.... or use on a new ambient project i just finished (well, finished to the point of now needing this help)... does that make sense? i'm not sure the stepos involved.. but, i need to start with a text file.. convert it to binary (?) form... and then convert it to AUDIO to put on a cd.. which can then be used to translate BACK into the text for those people who buy the cd and want to do that kind of thing.. i'm sorry i'm talking such babble.. i just dont' know the technical terms for this kind of thing...if anyone s grasping me.. and can help.. or knows of where i can find out how to do this, please let me know... thanks so much xo >>taylor.eight.oh. __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:34:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: well >Does anybody have the Well gopher site address? It would be greatly >appreciated if someone can e-mail it to me. Thanks, try typing 'gopher gopher.well.sf.ca.us' you should be also able to find it by navigating through the menus that bring you to northamerica/usa/california and then the well is listed as Whole Earth 'lectronic Link I think. check it out. ___ "The genius is not something added to oneself but a / / / / / / _ __/ stripping away of excess to reveal the god within." (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ finger -l kia@eden.rutgers.edu for PGP ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:34:04 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: Re: hardcore techie question! what??? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:45:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: minor infraction HOM are we gonna get a fresh, up t date HOM on minro infraction this week? i'm surious to see who's gonna be there! xoxo >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 23:38:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: gear sucks!!! What is all this hype about GEAR?? I hate gear, I use it, I need it. I won't tell you what I have or have access to, THAT's NOT THE POINT! If you liked my music, that would salm!!} What if I made it on a Turle Beach card for my 486!?? Who cares??? P909 will slam at PLEASUREDOME because we will kick it as LIVE as can be using all that old analog gear. You see it's the LIVE part that slams... Not the gear part. Method One will slam cause he'll kick it out LIVE!!! LIVE SLAMS!!! LIVE SLAMS HARD!!! LIVE SLAMS SO HARD!!! See us all LIVE, kickin it hard, right before your ears... Peace:):):) Jason ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 00:10:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: gear sucks!!! In-Reply-To: <199403090506.AAA23816@umd5.umd.edu> no jason, you are wrong. gear slams. i love gear i'm a gear head geek >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 00:15:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , James Clyde Temple Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: James Clyde Temple Subject: thanks Thanks to all who responded to my question about Well, your help is greatly appreciated. -jimB*B -jtemple@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 00:25:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: Help getting into REd! > Incase you didn't know by now (most of you don't) I happen to only be 15 >(oh joy, remember those teenage years?) My problem is the stupid `18+ policy >at RED. I'm wondering what's going to happen.. will I get in? Will I even >get a ticket? Can they turn me away even though I payed big cash for a >DJ Entox hey... if u remember, resolution was supposedly 18+ too, but i know there were kids under there, cause *noone* checked ids...listen man, i wouldnt worry about it...primary prod. seems pretty intent on maximizing its profit margin at this one (like u can blame them) and i doubt theyll turn anyone away who has $$...:) of course, this is assuming (no offence, ive never met you) you look like you can get in...;) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.091 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 00:26:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: gear sucks!!! to jason: *HUG* EXACTLY! but one thing i'd like to mention..."Method one will slam cause he'll kick it out live"....true, but dont forget that the pleasure- dome thing will be a JOINT effort by myself and derek (dj tiff n e)....i wanna give credit where credit is due :) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Mar 1994 21:49:39 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: Worcester Party, my experience... Hi All! After reading Daves (djm@bedford..) post on the free worcester rave, I feel i should digress and tell of our journey. We left for the rave at about 11:30 from boston, arriving there about 12:15 or so.. there was general confusion?. I parked around the corner and watched a convoy of cars driving togther, and I was thinking that they were all going to one place... I , however decided to drive around again, and ask if it was still here. i found out that it had been moved, and procedded to follow a lead truck and a car, and the lead truck had NO clue where he was going.. first heading east down rt 9, they turned around in a lot, (which I thought where the rave was) and both the truck and I got stuck in the snow... Graet. We pushed each other out (unity??) and got back on the road.. They then proceeded to head east on I-290, until we got off and turned around in a Medical clinic in Northboro, about 10 mins outside of worcester.. 'Its here?' I asked, and they said no they took a wrong turn, its soemwhere in worcester still... We ended up following them back, and finding the site... Maybe half a mile from the original site! (!!) ah well.. whichever... Ariving and climbing thru deeep snow... we look inside, and see music in the dirt floor basement, and a house party upstairs... So we walk inside, but i needed to DANCE, not chill... I walk into the dirt basement, and my gangly 6' 5" frame is cringing to walk around the corner to stand... Pipes and beams in my chin, I quickly figure i wouldn't be dancing for space here. While the vibe was good, no one was dancing, and we decided we should cruise. It seemed like a great party, but it twasn't what I expected. In hindsight, i probably shoulda stayed a bit.. But following a lunatic around Central mass for 45 mins didn't help my mood at that point. Dave and crew, thanks for the effort!! I will attend the next, with hopefully better space luck! See you all at MI! - Deej Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 00:52:01 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: gear sucks!!! In-Reply-To: <199403090510.AAA24212@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 8 Mar 1994, Jason Szostek wrote: > What is all this hype about GEAR?? > > I hate gear, I use it, I need it. > > I won't tell you what I have or have access to, THAT's NOT THE POINT! > > If you liked my music, that would salm!!} > > What if I made it on a Turle Beach card for my 486!?? > > Who cares??? > > P909 will slam at PLEASUREDOME because we will kick it > > as LIVE as can be using all that old analog gear. > > You see it's the LIVE part that slams... Not the gear part. > > Method One will slam cause he'll kick it out LIVE!!! > > LIVE SLAMS!!! > > LIVE SLAMS HARD!!! > > LIVE SLAMS SO HARD!!! > > See us all LIVE, kickin it hard, right before your ears... > > > > Peace:):):) > > Jason > Well I agree, but who did we forget :) (wink, nudge). In any event 187 will kick the 'Ardcore Jungle/Darkness and HARD Acieeeeed as ruff as possible. I promise to be deafining loud and bassey. 187 on a virgin eardrum! LIVE SLAMS HARD, nuff said. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 01:09:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: gear sucks!!! >"Method one will >slam cause he'll kick it out live"....true no...Method One will NOT slam or I'll kick his little skinny white butt! Method One will be helping to create a tapestry of musical atmospheres... guaraunteed to soothe, relax, and help everyone recooperate from all the oter SLAMMING acts :) hope everyone enjoys! later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 01:12:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: FUTURE GROOVE info line Hey all...the info line I have for Future Groove does not seem to be working...516.576.2520...wazzup? I have alot of friends who want to attend...but it's going to be hard if they can't find it. please please please let me know. later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 02:31:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE info line In-Reply-To: <199403090701.CAA02549@umd5.umd.edu> from "Derek Tiffany" at Mar 9, 94 01:12:50 am Dans la Matrice, Derek Tiffany a dit: > > Hey all...the info line I have for Future Groove does not seem to be > working...516.576.2520...wazzup? I have alot of friends who want to Hey, i hope it is going on! I'm going down to NYC this friday (and back sunday most probably). Of course i wouldn't go if it's not happening... Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 04:27:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Help getting into REd! In-Reply-To: <199403090538.AAA26947@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Mar 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > >(oh joy, remember those teenage years?) My problem is the stupid `18+ policy > >at RED. I'm wondering what's going to happen.. will I get in? > > > hey... if u remember, resolution was supposedly 18+ too, but i know there > were kids under there, cause *noone* checked ids... Lonnie explained his policy on his 18+ policy for Resulotion over on DC Raves (much to the consternation and argument of some of the list members) as this: He wanted to make sure he wouldn't have curfew problems so he advertised it as 18+ to dissuade the casual non-raver kids from swarming the joint. Basically he wasn't planning on carding everyone, and he had no real reason to be 18+, but it made his life alot easier to create the image of having no one under 18 in the place. I don't know if this is what they are doing at Red, maybe you should call over to them and find out about their policy. (Funny, this production crew seems to be one of the few on the east coast that doesn't have some sort of direct or indirect connection to the net). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:16:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE info line In-Reply-To: <199403090701.CAA02578@umd5.umd.edu> >DATE: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 01:12:50 -0500 >FROM: Derek Tiffany > >Hey all...the info line I have for Future Groove does not seem to be >working...516.576.2520...wazzup? I have alot of friends who want to >attend...but it's going to be hard if they can't find it. > >please please please let me know. > >later days and sunny rays, >-----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- >Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent >University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... >-----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- >or just plain derek if you prefer The number for FG is 516-476-2520, and iit's still going to happen. Joy!! Bob ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:27:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: My dear young deers.. Okay, as you know car load of folks and I (well, at least four of us) are heading up to Philly on Friday night and then Long Island Saturday. Now, the question of the day is, does anyone have crash space? I hate to think I would need to put cash into a hotel room, I am an exceedingly poor kid just now (I have the bank statement to prove that, available upon request). Anyhow, if you do have some floor space you are willing to donate, please let me know, there may be a sainthood in it for you. ;) Oh, and we should be going up and hanging out at Fish's joint (that is the designated preparty site?) before Future Groove. Everyone who was asking about a ride could you mail me back? I don't think I can provide a ride between Philly and Long Island though. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:32:01 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Subject: Re: P909 LIVE TAPES AVAILABLE (finally) I', interested to trade your p909 tape. PLease tell me if you're ok... Yours Dj dUb I've posted you my list ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:32:04 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Subject: Re: P909 LIVE TAPES AVAILABLE (finally) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---dUb--------------------HERE IS MY COMPLETE COLLECTION--------dUb------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ENGLAND: Techno: -DAVE ANGEL (Live at HYPERSPACE 6/8/93) -COLIN DALE (No 6) -DAVE ANGEL (STUDIO MIX ) -COLIN FAVOR (EMPIRE ACID TEST (9/4/93) -COLIN FAVOR (Live HELTER SKELTER 12/3/93) Brckbeat: -DJ ELLIS DEE (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ SY (Live at HYPERSPACE) -DJ SY (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ SY (Live but where???) -DJ EasyGroove (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ Easy Groove (Live at OBSESSION 1993) -Trevor Rockliffe (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ Chez Damier (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) (REESE PROJECT) -DJ Phantasy (No 9) -GROOVERIDER (No 9) -GROOVERIDER (No 6) -GROOVERIDER (No 8) -GROOVERIDER (Live at THE EDGE ) -GROOVERIDER (Live at ECLIPSE) -SLIPMATT (Ultimate in Hardcore 1993) -SLIPMATT/TOPBUZZ (Tribal GAthering) -DJ SEDUCTION (Live at Dance PLANET 1993) -Carl COX (Live At OBSESSION 1993) -RATTY (Dreamdance) -Kenny Ken (Live in LONDON Part 1 & 2) -BUZZ KIRK (Studio MIX) (JUNGLE) -LTJ BUKEM (FANTASIA BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION 1993) -KROME (BOGNOR EMPIRE TRIBAL CONFUSION) (JUNGL) PROGRESSIVE: JOHN DIGWEED GERMANY: Techno: -WESTBAM (Sound of OBSESSION 1993) -Sven VAth (Live in DREAMSCAPE) -Sven VAth (Live in OMEN 1993) -SVEN VATH (HAMBURG COCOS CLUB 1993) -DJ TANITH/THE PRODUCER (Live at UNIVERSE 1993) -MAYDAY 1993 -DJ HELL (No 7) -PCP (FRANKFURT OMEN 1/93) -PAULO (STUDIO TAPE 1993) (GARAGE) -ROLAND CASPER (WAREHOUSE COLOGNE APRIL 1993) -TANITH (MAYDAY 93 JUDGEMENT DAY) -TANITH (UNIVERSE SEP 93) -... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOLLAND Techno -CJ BOLLAND (Live in AMSTERDAM 1993) -CJ BOLLAND (UNIVERSE APRIL 1993) -DANO/Prophet/GIZMO (Studio Mix 1993) -FRANK DE WULF (LEEDS ARK MARCH 93) -... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SWITZERLAND Techno: -DUB (ANGEL) (Progressive/techno MIX 1994) -TERRORIST (MIX 1993) (Back to the roots) -DUB/TERRORIST (Live GENEVA part 1,2,4 1/14/94) -TERRORIST (SWITZERLAND BURNING 1994) -TERRORIST (EARACHE TERRORISM 1994) -GANGSTA (After HOURS zurich 1993) -GANGSTA (Live BERN 1993) -DJ NOISE (No 1,2 1993) -T-BASS (Live ZURICH ENERGY 1993) -T-BASS (Live DREAMSCAPE 1993) -High-Speed (Dream of love) -DJ Alex P (Live ZURICH OXA 1993) -SACHA (No 29,30) -DJ JEF (Swiss Champion DMC No8 ) -DJ JEF (Live at Le PALAIS 1992) -DJ TEK JAM/X-NTRIX (1993) -WILLOW (Hi-BIAS) (Live BIENNE 1993) -WILLOW (Lots of tapes from him) -LAURENT (Live at ANNECY 1993) -OLIVER (Rita's TAPES No 1,2,3,4 1993) -... Underground: -DJAIMIN (Lots of tapes from him) -WILLOW (" " " " ") -FREE SOUL (No 2) -TERRORIST (Kewl Chewns 1993) -Dj dUb (Dirty-minded Atmosphere) -DJ F.B.I. (VOL 1,2,5 1993) -... BrckBeat: -TERRORIST (MIX 1993) -PSY.CO.BAT (STUDIO TAPE PSY NOO.BIS 1994) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FRANCE Techno -LAURENT GARNIER (Live at UNIVERSE UK 1993) -BENJAMIN (Live on FG 1993) -MILOCH (Live at Annecy 1993) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ITALY TEchno: -GIANNI PARRINI (Lots of tapes from him) -Roby PARRINO (Live at KU ) -... Underground -GIANNI PARRINI (Lots of tapes from him) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -JAPAN -MICRODOTS (DREAM FM RADIO TAPE ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -SWEDEN -ICE (OBSESSION SANCTUARY APRIL 93) (PROGRESSIVE) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -AMERICA Techno -JEFF MILLS/EXCESS -LENNY DEE (DREAM LEEDS MARCH 93 / OMEN FRANKFURT) -JOEY BELTRAM (LEEDS ORBIT MAY 93) -JOEY BELTRAM (LEADS ORBIT EVOLUTION DEC 92) ----------------------------------------NEW----------------------------------- ENGLAND: DJ SY (STUDIO MIX ) DJ SY (CORNAWALL WORLD SYSTEM NOV 1993) EASY GROOVE (Live at Helter Skelter) EASY GROOVE (Live at Hyperspace ) SVEN VATH/DAVE ANGEL (Live at UNIVERSE 1993) FABIO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------TAPES RECEIVED--------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -SVEN VATH "2" -DJ HYPERACTIVE (VOL 4&5) -JOEY BELTRAM -JEFF MILLS (RADIO TAPE FG98.2) -DJ EFX -... I'm LOOKING FOR TAPES FROM AMERICA. -DJ FRANKIE BONES -JEFF MILLS -CARL CRAIG -LENNY DEE -other techno/brckbeat DJ HELLO & THANKS TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS WHO HELP ME TO COMPLETE THIS LIST ESPECIALLY :TERRORIST,PSYCHED,DJ SYNERGY (Q-SONIC),JACOB,... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just send a mail and tell me if you wanna trade or buy some tapes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- dUb - DUBRIT HERVE AT DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH - dUb --------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 09:12:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: BADGES (fwd) Not much new here folks, it is the same as my last badge message but this time I am including information on how to get the badges if you AREN't going to a party I will be at. If you decide you want one of these things, snail mail me with your info and money at: Dan Philpott 8713 37th Ave. College Park, MD 20740 First some background on the badges. The costs involved cover a few basic things including the badge, lamination, postage of mailing it to you, and cost of the necklace. I don't make money off these things, they are for identification in rave situations where verbal communication can become ... difficult. Information to be included on the badges: Name Handle EMail Address City of Residence Pithy Quote Whatever information you want.. DC Raves Badge - Available The DC Raves badge is a background of a posse of happy smiling yellow faces on an orange field with the words 'DC Raves' sprawled accross the front. The back includes personal information. It was designed by Max (Fierce Ruling Diva) of the DC Raves tribe. Cost $3.50 NE Raves Badge 1 - Unavailable The old orange style badges with personal information included and a window for difractive lens which unfortunately tended to melt during lamination. Unknown who designed it, Laura La Gassa probably did. Cost: N/A NE Raves Badge 2 - Available The CyberTribes most popular badge. This has the VR man on the front of it reaching out to touch something. Above him are the words 'Reach Out * Connect' and below him are the words 'NE Raves' and the old gnu address. Personal information is included on the back. While the address has changed I won't change the address until the image is cleaned up and I can redo the whole badge. It wsa designed and originally distributed by Taylor808 (Instinct Records) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $3.50 NE Raves Badge series 3 - Available A series of four badges sold as a set. The background to each of these is a field of the words 'Peace Love Unity Respect' repeated ad infinitum at a crazy tilt. Superimposed on that are the multicolored letters 'PLUR' and on each badge is a scripted word, either 'Peace', 'Love', 'Unity', or 'Respect'. Above this montage is the new NetRave logo (for incorporation into all badge series as a show of Unity) and below is the word 'NE Raves'. Personal information is not included on the badges and the whole series is sold as a set (to allow for a greater volume to be produced at a given time). Both the series and the new NetRave logo were designed by David Darrow (Chaos Lite Graphics) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $5.00 NE Raves Badge 4 - Unavailable This is still in the concept stage. Envisioned is one or two of the Peanuts gang (comic strip) dancing, in rave clothing or spinning some 1200s. Above would be the words 'Get Net * It Pays' and below would be the words 'NE Raves'. The back would contain information on the owner of the badge. Looking for someone who can draw in Charles Schultz style to create these things. Cost: N/A ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:22:58 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day think about this.... IF IS WASN'T FOR THE x0x MACHINES..... NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE!!!!!!!! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:29:10 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: National 303 Day 303 isn't all in techno/house music! (even if a good 303 multi channel sequence could sound amazing). psyched ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:37:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day why not set it to 6:06 he he he UP-tempo!!! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:41:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: gear sucks!!! i agree that gear is good wait, take out an "o".... gear is God. aaaaah, better. if it wasn't for the TB-303, none of us would be here :( UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:47:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: P909 LIVE TAPES AVAILABLE (finally) i am very interested.... and..... i know Repete's sister!!!! she lives 200 footsteps away i have a RARE Repete tape HARDCORE!!!! interested??? UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:44:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day "if it wasnt for x0x machines...none of us would be here" i REFUSE to say that my existance as a musician/techno love can be traced back to a roland drum machine. thats plain silly :) remember, i happen to own an 808....it is A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT. nothing more. nothing less. it is not god :) all it is is an analog non-midi'd drum machine with great bass drum, hand clap, and snare sounds (the others arent bad either) one of my friends from home recently got a pretty big deal with reinforced records. know what equipment he uses? an ensoniq eps 16+ sampler. thats it. enough said (this wasnt meant as a flame...but i just think the hole x0x lust thing is pretty silly...they are not a requirement for a slammin' track...) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu oops spelling isnt too good....well, im tired. shoot me :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 08:50:40 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: 18+ policy Hey, considering how raves started, doesn't anyone think it's pretty funny to be worrying about CURFEW? Neil ,>'?'<, ( O O ) ------------------ooOO-(_)-OOoo----------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:57:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Oral Thursday Cybertribe, Kick me for not having given this place more props, but last night I saw the place for the first time *OH MY GOD!* You have to be there... This Thursday night is the opening night of "Oral" at 1201 Ocean Ave. in Asbury Park, New Jersey. If you live ANYWHERE within driving distance you should DEFINATELY come down to check this place out. The place is only a little over an hour from Philly and New York City and is open from 11pm till 6am. The DJ line-up: Mars (trance), Sal V. (hardcore), Gee Money (breakbeats), and Unique (old school hip-hop). Rob G. is also coming down as well as some of the guys from Planet X and DJ records in Long Island. The club is *brand new* complete with: 800 person capacity *No* Liquor bar Juice and soda bar Intellebeams, Data Flash Strobes, Laser, etc, etc... UNREAL THUMPING BASS!!! (They have more 18" woofers in that place than I've seen at some raves!) Chill-out lounge with couches Multi level dance floor Cool security The passes are SOOOO Phat! They are like 6" by 5" and the front looks like the Oreo package. Where the Oreo one says Nabisco, this one says "No Disco" The club had a private party this past Saturday with all house and well over 500 people were still there at 5 a.m. I have a guest list so anyone that wants to come can get in for $5 instead of $7. Call (800)901-7181 and leave your name and number (SPELL YOUR NAME FIRST AND LAST) If you've never been down to the Jersey Shore area, you have got to come down and check this place out. Directions: From NYC and all points North: Take I-95 (Jersey Turnpike) South to exit 11 for the Garden State Parkway. Follow the Parkway south to exit 100 A and head east on Rt.66. Follow directions below... From Philly and all points south: Take I-95 (Jersey Turnpike) North to exit 7A for I-195. Follow I-195 East til the Exit for the Garden State Parkway North. Take the Parkway North to exit 100 A (There are three exits around mile marker 100, this is the second one for Asbury Park). Take Rt.66 east. Follow directions below... From Rt.66 East: Follow for approximately 4 miles to Asbury Circle. Follow signs for Asbury Park which is Asbury Ave (still 66) take it all the way to the Ocean, make a left on Ocean Ave. heading North. Corner of 4th and ocean (only like 4 or 5 blocks up). Ample safe parking. When travelling, ALWAYS use a map. If you need more info, feel free to call me at (800)901-7181 or MAC Records at (908)935-0085. Peace and a good vibe, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:58:48 -0500 Reply-To: secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: red tickets..please read if you want one. okay, due to the large number of replies, the people with priority getting the $15 tickets will be people who *aren't* close to one of the ticket outlets. i'll list those again at the bottom so you can look and see if you're close or not. people within an hour of boston are going to have to be a last priority. i don't have all the spare cash and/or the time to get a bazillion tickets just because people don't want to make the trip into boston. the $15 deadline *has* been extended (at least at boston beat) because they didn't get the tickets in time. i'll check to see when the extension is till. anyway, then after that the advance tix will be $20, so.. here are the ticket outlet locations: Modern Music- Baltimore- (410)523-1882 Music Now- Washington D.C.- (202)638-3272 Groove Records- Brooklyn- (718)714-5232 Allston Beat- Boston- (617)421-9555 Devious Mind- Boston- (617)421-9066 Boston Beat- Boston- (617)247-2428 Liquid Sky- Manhattan- (212)343-0532 Lunasea- Providence- (401)272-5862 Mothership- Vermont- (902)658-3736 Juan&Juanita- Montreal- (514)847-2292 if you're not close to one of these, then mail me about getting you a ticket. handi is going to be out of town this weekend and i'm going to be at minor infraction and then at future groove, so i really don't know how i'm going to get the time and $$ to go and buy all these tickets. but, we'll see. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:25:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: gear sucks!!! In-Reply-To: <199403091712.MAA19290@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Mar 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > if it wasn't for the TB-303, none of us would be here :( i don't know if i'd go that far. the 303 gave house and techno a distict sound, but i don't know if i'd say that it *made* the whole music. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:56:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , VISUAL MARK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: VISUAL MARK Subject: sorry I am very sorry to bother everyone but it is very important that I get off this list by tomorrow because I won't be able to check my vax for a while. It seems that the site has changed since I subscribed or something because I am having quite a time unsubscribing. Could someone please tell me how to unsubscribe? Thanks, H herb@vax.clarku.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 12:57:40 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Oral Thursday In-Reply-To: "Marshal H. Villarosa"'s message of Wed, 9 Mar 1994 11:57:32 EST <199403091747.MAA23908@umd5.umd.edu> 800 person capacity Are you sure it is not really 808 person capacity? *No* Liquor bar Juice and soda bar Intellebeams, Data Flash Strobes, Laser, etc, etc... UNREAL THUMPING BASS!!! (They have more 18" woofers in that place than I've seen at some raves!) Chill-out lounge with couches Multi level dance floor Cool security ;-). Albert ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:26:39 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: 18+ policy In-Reply-To: <199403091739.MAA23172@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Hey, considering how raves started, doesn't anyone think it's pretty funny > to be worrying about CURFEW? > > Neil Yeah, that and the fact that most of them are unconstitutional to begin with. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 13:54:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bruce Krysiak Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bruce Krysiak Subject: Re: Worcester, Gear, Samples I guess this should really be three messages, but I hate when I see 50 messages after not checking email for 5 hours... :( I do have a life off the net ;) (P.S. I'm not sure what the deal is, but there seems to be a lot of personal mail being posted to the list lately. Um... could we NOT? I'm not sure if it's a newsreader problem or a newbie problem, but at least one person is bugged, and I don't even pay for my messages. It's hard to keep up with the list as it is, please don't make it (unneccessarily) harder. Thank you and now back to our regularly scheduled message... :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Part I: Worcester Party, MY experience... Sorry to harp on the Worcester party after dave wuz so psyched, but here's my deal... After hanging out in Wellesley at the WZLY party and listening to jetta spin for a bit, I drove my (non-raver) friends back into Boston at about 1:30 and then it was me all by my lonesome out to Worcester. I got there about 3 (still early by raving terms) and saw three raver hopefuls (a guy named Jay, another guy and a girl) hanging around outside. The door was locked and to one was coming in or out. We hung out and walked around to try and see if anyone was inside, but couldn't see anything. Me & Jay decided to call the info line to see if they had moved and left directions to the new space. It was the same message, so we're like, "whassup?" We hung out some more, then decided to go to Joel's (the guy who was supposedly throwing it's) apartment, cuz Jay knew him. No dice. No one home, no note, nothing. We drove back to the original space and just sat, trying to _listen_ for any music. All we head was somebody's radio playing from upstairs. We decided that the lack of *THUMP* *THUMP* *THUMP* meant it wasn't the party, so we drove back to Boston at around 4. *** My point: *** It really really really sucks when there's a nearby party that gets moved and NO ONE LEAVES A NOTE OR CHANGES THE INFO LINE. I realize that it's hard enough to please 50 (or whatever) people getting kicked out of the original space, but still, by 3AM, I'm sure things had calmed down enough to leave some sort of notice to the latecomers... Whew! Okay, I feel better having got that off my chest! Thanks! Onward... :) :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Part II: Random gear thoughts. I remember hearing someone say that the magic of the 303 was in the sequencer, particularly in the way button presses sometimes double unintentionally... I just though it was cool that maybe, buried deep in the development labs of Roland somewhere, some engineering type made this decision to use this certain button that was kinda flakey and thus sowed the seeds that launched (part of) techno/acid/whatever.... Especially since I'm here at MIT (ostensibly) studying to be an engineer myself and may someday influence the next generation of music in a similar fashion... It brought a tear to my eye... ;) :) :) :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Part III: Roland x0x samples on the net? In accordance with my statement in part II above, I'm thinking about building a drum machine as a project in one of my classes. I've only seen a 707, so I'm thinking about building that same interface (maybe a bit spiffed up), with either a side sampling unit it triggers or built in samples. HOWEVER, that means I'm going to need drum noises if I decide to build them in. I'm wondering if anybody has or knows of a site with (esp) 808 or 909 samples I can pull off the net to load into the little beastie... Or even any other cool drum-type noises (whatever. claps, whistles, etc., etc., etc.) I'm forever in your debt... :) :) :) :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Okay, I'll shut up now, and hope to see everyone at Minor Infraction Friday... Come and say hi to me (I'm working one of the doors 12 - 1 ): I guess I should have found out who was scheduled to play first, but oh well. I just hope Wellesley CP's don't decide to be their usual selves and force it to close down at 1:30... L8r... E PLURibus unum! (from the quarter in my pocket - Who says our country wasn't founded by ravers?) - Bruce :) :) :) :) :) --//--- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 14:00:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: 18+ policy In-Reply-To: <199403091856.NAA02371@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Mar 1994, Joe LeSesne wrote: > Yeah, that and the fact that most of them are unconstitutional to begin with. yeah, i think a few times courts have decided that curfews were pretty much just glorified house arrest. i don't have the exact cases that these rulings correspond to, but i remember reading that somewhere. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:03:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: hardcore techie question! In-Reply-To: <199403090421.XAA17091@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 8 Mar 1994, taylor deupree wrote: > this isnt' rave related , but oh well. > > > i'm looking for someone/where to assist me in converting a text file.. to > some kind of ascii audio dump.... or use on a new ambient project i just > finished (well, finished to the point of now needing this help)... > > > does that make sense? Sort of. > > i'm not sure the stepos involved.. but, i need to start with a text > file.. convert it to binary (?) form... and then convert it to AUDIO to > put on a cd.. which can then be used to translate BACK into the text for > those people who buy the cd and want to do that kind of thing.. > What do you mean by text file? Is is a story, or something? Is it just gibberish? I'm assuming you want to convert a coherently written piece of text (ie. an explanation of the music) into some kind of music file. Do you then want to convert it to music by, say, having each letter of the alphabet represent some musical note or sound? It would help if you were more specific in specifying exactly what you wanted to do. When you say convert to AUDIO I assume you mean convert it to the format normally played on CDs. Then, if the person wanted to extract the text, they would load it into a CD-ROM drive and run some kind of extraction program? If this is the case, you might want to find a sound-techie newsgroup, as you would have to know the exact format CDs are recorded in as they are not done the same way as CD-ROMs (the way the bits are physically represented is differet-- sort of). > i'm sorry i'm talking such babble.. i just dont' know the technical terms > for this kind of thing...if anyone s grasping me.. and can help.. or > knows of where i can find out how to do this, please let me know... > It's an interesting idea. If you say more exactly what yo want to do, I'd love to at least see if I can help. -Sean > thanks so much > > xo > > >>taylor.eight.oh. > > > __________________________________ > | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | > | - - - - | > | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged > | - - - - | your 303 today? > |----------------------------------| > | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | > | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| > __________________________________ > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 16:59:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jiMmy f Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jiMmy f Subject: Re: Introduction (again) In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:53:23 -0500 from is there anyone in Pitt. who is going pleasure dome. I would like to take a bu s, i don't know if my car can make it. if i have to i guess i have to. i can make it to pitt. i will help out with gas and anything else if someone is will ing to drive. this is my first rave and i really want to go. help thanks jiMmy f :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:16:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM-2 Here's the HOM of the week..I'm praying there are no mistakes in it...but if there are, please mail me as soon as possible [just like if likewise, there are any changes] If you have any suggestions please also mail me with those since I'm not sure exactly what would make this possibly easier to read or more efficient. Also...just becaue an event is listed, doesn't mean it's not happening, it merely means that no one has mailed me that they are going to that event...[as in SM III for instance] Have an AMAZING weekend HUGZ Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, March 11 MINOR INRFACTION Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-Bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Rishad aka Fish [staying at Jetta's] raquazi@CCVM.sunysb.edu Casper jcarow@MIT.EDU Joe aka Fiend 6anthony@spcvxa.spc.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu Mark aka Machine Media 0005995336@mcimail.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 11 KICK IT Philli, PA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Mike aka nosferatu/mikey ms5414@ark.ship.edu Jenn-Bug smed8781@smed.csv.kutztown.edu [CRASH SPACE] munterma@acc.haverford.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 12 FUTURE GROOVE LI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ned aka Chuck aka Buluga [NEEDS RIDE-WESTPORT] buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Joe aka Fiend 6anthony_m@spcvxa.spc.edu Rishad aka Fish [THROWING PRE-NET-GATHERING] rquazi@CCVM.sunysb.edu Sprokett kumquat@acs.bu.edu Matt aka DJ Fresh Blend [NEEDS RIDE -2 -RI] st000912@brownvm.brown.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com Mark aka Machine Media [NEEDS RIDE BACK TO CT] 0005995336@mcimail.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 26 RED Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seuss [NEED RIDE-NY] petelis@eerie.acsu.cc.buffalo.edu Casper jcarow@MIT.EDU Jason Bilsky [OFFER SPACE] fuzzbox@world.std.com Mark aka Machine Media [NEEDS CRASH SPACE] 0005995336@mcmail.com Jmc [CRASH SPACE FOR 5] jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com John Goldman [NEEDS RIDE TO-FROM AIRPORT TO SPACE] jgoldman@TMN.COM Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Sprokett [OFFER CRASH SPACE-2] kumquat@acs.bu.edu Hwyman [most amazing person :)] hwyman@wam.umd.edu John aka DJ Entox djentox@aol.com Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP FROM PA] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Neith! [TAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRE-PARTY] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 4 PLEASURE DOME Washington, DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [OFFER SPACE] RC3116A@american.edu Mike aka nosferatu/mikey ms5414@ark.ship.edu Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP-PA SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Maclean [NEEDS RIDE Derek Tiffany [spinnin :) ] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jason aka Method 1 [performin :) ] lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:18:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: hey djs!! HI All! Well if you are a dj out there and would be interested in listing a top ten list in the next issue of ZooM...Please send me a list of you 10 favs plus the area you are from and the last events(s) that you have spun at. I need this list by this friday so please start typing :) Thanks, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 17:31:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JFANO@KENTVM.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Introduction (again) In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 4 Mar 1994 17:53:23 -0500 from hey...what time is it? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:21:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "michael schreiber address=MS5414@ark.ship" Subject: what's this confusion? Okay i called the information line about future groove, it works just fine. But, along with this info is something about an event on April 9th, the same day pleasuredome in balt/wash is happening. Djs fo motion include micro, and some others that I think are also listed for pleasuredome. Personally. i would trust that the producers of motion are the ones that actually booked them. THe past record of those promoting pleasuredome hasn't been good....remember raveland being screwed up and held at tracks and then flesh waiting in line for almost 2 hours so the fire marshall could inspect the place many times and then walk in to an area the size of a bin go hall :( I may be wrong and too cynical about all of this, but would like to know what is going on, since i won't be attending many events and would like the ones I attend to be good. If I have the dj line-up screwed-up please tell me. I also heard that dmitry's name was posted even before he was asked to do it. I hope to hear about this soon. Thanks Michael Schreiber ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 19:36:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: Introduction (again) In-Reply-To: <199403092231.RAA24213@umd5.umd.edu> from "jiMmy f" at Mar 9, 94 04:59:02 pm > > is there anyone in Pitt. who is going pleasure dome. I would like to take a bu > s, i don't know if my car can make it. if i have to i guess i have to. i can > make it to pitt. i will help out with gas and anything else if someone is will > ing to drive. this is my first rave and i really want to go. > Hey, I have a bus going from Athens Ohio to PleasureDome!!! I see that you go to Kent, well I have a friend coming down from Warren (near Youngstown) actually where kent trumbull campus is. He will bring you down here to Athens because he has an empty car!! I need people to fill up the bus. The cost is $52 which includes bus ride and ticket in... If you are interested get a hold of me ***ASAP*** time is running out!! I have to have the bus paid for soon!! This goes for anyone else too!! I need more people to come.. If you think that you might drop me a line, even if you are not sure and I can give you more info!!! OK thanks.. Later and see ya'll at PleasureDome! ;) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 19:33:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Benoit.Mulsant@A.GP.CS.CMU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Introduction (again) Hey man... I am writing about Pleasuredome... it is goin on in Pittsburgh>? I am in Pittsburgh, havent been keeping up with the scene... can ya mail me event info? -Paris ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 19:40:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: gear is way cool Let's try a finer point: What ever happened to the people behind the gear? If we all got the same gear would we all make the same sound? I hope not, if not, who/what should get the credit for the sound? The artist? The gear? The roland stuff we make acid with was around in 1983. But nobody made acid with it then. Does the gear make acid, techno. ambient by itself?? Or do people make music? Omicron made his CD with an eps 16+ and an Atari and his stuff slams. Do I worship the EPS or Omicron. Well, Savvas (omicron) is a person, and I reserve all feelings for people, not electronics. If you've ever been to Taylor's you know he has enough gear to make any geek drool. But when I listen to Human Mesh Dance, I don't listen to the gear, I concentrate on the vision, the spirit, in the music. For me, techno is music made with technology, not gear that makes music. I'd rather reserve my amazement for Savvas, Taylor, Speedy J, Richie Hawtin, Sven, Richard James and all the other slammin wizzes out there makin' slammin music. Oh, by the way; it was a PERSON who invented the 303. Maybe we should spare some praise for him/her. Why dont we even know their name?? PS Sorry about shouting, I got a bit excited. Peace, Love and Humanity:) Jason ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 20:11:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: I'll be Back & I'll be Writing ) Hey Folks, Looks like the date is now the 5th of April for my ETA - couldn't get any seats earlier - I guess it's all the foreigners going home from Mardi Gras last weekend :)... My apologies to all those that I'm supposed to have been writing to ( especially Camper & Paul :) but pulling on from Sydney is a real wank - I don't have an account over here so I have to RLOGIN from a freind's account and endure the serious LAG that aoccurs between here & the US. I have a much better appreciation of the problems the Ozzies goe through when connecting to VRave, IRC and LambdaMOO from this. You haven't LAG'd till you've hooked on from here... Hell, it's worse than coming down off Special-K 8-} See ya all soon - reviews coming up ( when I get the chance ) for mardi Gras, drugs, parties, fashions and all sorts of Ozzie stuff that you just have to experience to believe - hopefully I can get a Video camera too - Kings Cross at 2am on a Saturday morning just *has* to be seen to be believed :) Imagine Times Square on Acid and yer getting *closse* :) Grant ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 20:42:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Future Groove: directions to the FiSHtank Heya Kids, I'm glad to see a growing enthusiasm for the little get-together pizza-pre-party that I'm planning to have at my place before Future Groove. I'm really truly sorry I can't offer the Fishtank as a crash site for the following day, because I'm leaving the party early for an important family thing early the next morning. I hope that you all can find alternate plans and that this is not a deterrent to coming to this party. Anyway, as promised, here are directions to get to my little home: FROM NEW ENGLAND: (as I've never driven from Boston to Long Island, I really am only going by what I can tell from my maps. Please consult a map before setting out - it's only common sense). * Take I-95 (NEW ENGLAND THRUWAY) southbound towards New York until you are in the Bronx area. * At around exit 14 or so (by my map) you will see Pelham Bay Park to your left and the exit leading to the Hutchinson River Parkway. Ignore this, it's just a milestone. * Continue down I-95 as it curves past Pelham Bay, and becomes The BRUCKNER EXPRESSWAY. (If you miss the exit and somehow end up on Hutchinson River Parkway, don't worry. see later for alternate route). * The Bruckner Expressway will after a while join to the THROG'S NECK EXPRESSWAY 695 going East. This goes for about a mile and will merge into the CROSS-BRONX-EXPRESSWAY 295 going east. This will finally lead to the THROG'S NECK BRIDGE. (If you missed the Bruckner Expressway, continue down the Hutchinson River Parkway to get to 678 south to cross the White- Stone Bridge - toll $4). * There is a toll of $4 or so on the Throg's Neck Bridge. Cross it and stay to the left on the bridge. Look for the first exit to the left when reaching the other side - CROSS ISLAND PARKWAY. (if you crossed the Whitestone bridge, stay on 678 and look for the exit to Grand Central Parkway/NORTHERN STATE PARKWAY east to Eastern Long Island) * As you go down the Cross-Island Parkway, you will see an exit for the Long Island Expressway (L.I.E.) 495 East and West. Don't take the L.I.E. - it's slower and there are trucks on it. Continue down a while and look instead for the NEXT exits which should be for the GRAND CENTRAL PARKWAY EAST. Note that GRAND CENTRAL PARKWAY (GCP) around these parts becomes the NORTHERN STATE PARKWAY. * Follow the Northern State Parkway for about 40 miles till you see exits in the 40's (41, 42, 43 ..). After seeing exit 43 keep your eyes peeled for a sign showing '347 East/454 East' and indicating that 347 is to the left, 454 is to the right. Stay to the left. (If you caught the L.I.E. East by mistake, no problem. Just look for signs to get to the Northern State Parkway East along the way. It's a small white sign with black lettering and a big 'N' and 'northern parkway' underneath it. If by some unhappy chance you miss ALL the exits for Northern State, read on). * In a little while you will see a sign indicating Port Jefferson is 7 miles away following Route 347. Bear to the left at the first traffic light and continue East on Route 347. * On the way you will pass the following milestones: * County Office and H. Lee Dennison building signs (right) * The Watermill Inn (right) * MOTEL (right) and Staples/Seaman's Furniture (left) across from a light. * The Smithhaven Mall (right) * A Hess Station (left across from a light) * Route 97 North/Nicoll's Road * Sign for Mark Tree Road * A Wendy's next to The Ground Round, to the left. * A car dealership with red/white/blue banners etc (left, on other side of road). * As you approach the last 2 milestones, keep to the left and look out for a sign indicating ROUTE 112 NORTH-SOUTH/ROUTE 347 JUNCTION. This will be at a traffic light, and across from a railcar with the sign 'Chamber of Commerce'. Make the left turn onto ROUTE 112 NORTH here. If you miss this and pass the light, you will see signs for MOUNT SINAI. If so, turn around on 347 and look for the ROUTE 112 NORTH turn again. (if you missed the Northern Parkway exits on the L.I.E., stay on the L.I.E. to exit 62 - Stony Brook/Blue Point. Stay on until you see a sign for STONY BROOK/ROUTE 97 NORTH. Get off at this exit and continue on 97 north for about 3 miles. At the intersection of 97 and 347, make a right to get onto 347 East, and follow directions as above, starting with the Mark Tree road milestone) * Go down ROUTE 112 NORTH for three traffic lights. At the third light, you should see a 7-11 across you, and a large parking lot/ strip mall (WoolWorths big sign) both to the left. Make the left here. Follow the road (watch out for a nasty pothole right at the turn!) until you pass the Bowling Alley at the end of it. At the STOP sign make a right. Pass the first left. Take the SECOND LEFT onto PIEDMONT DRIVE to get to the HEATHERWOOD APARTMENT complex. * Pass some houses on the right side and ignore the left fork at the turn (which goes to PiEDMONT MANOR, wrong place). Park on the street somewhere. * Note the RENTAL OFFICE, a small building right after the turn. My apartment building is the one immediately facing it. My apt. is on the side facing the rental office, furthest away from the street. Apartment 11A, Building 40 if you get lost. * My phone number is : 516-331-5369 if you get lost at any point, so give me a call for salvation :^) FROM NEW YORK CITY and POINTS WEST: * Take the Mid-town Tunnel to the L.I.E. * Start looking for any possible exit to the Northern State Parkway, there are quite a few along the way. * Follow the directions above once you get to Route 347, or else follow the L.I.E. to exit 62 and read above. - - - PHEW! Okay, now I know I was purposely wordy in writing this up, but I do know how hard it is getting around in a strange place and I just wanted to give you all as many pointers as I can. In case you don't want to be looking for the details as you're driving, here are the directions in brief: IN BRIEF: -------- 1) I-95 SOUTH TO BRUCKNER EXPRESSWAY 2) CROSS OVER THROGS NECK BRIDGE 3) GET TO CROSS-ISLAND PARKWAY 4) EXIT TO GRAND CENTRAL PARKWAY/NORTHERN STATE PARKWAY 5) FOLLOW ABOUT 40 MILES TO ROUTE 347 6) INTERSECTION OF ROUTE 347 AND ROUTE 112, TAKE 112 NORTH 7) THIRD LIGHT MAKE LEFT AT 7-11. 8) RIGHT AT STOP-SIGN. PASS FIRST LEFT. TAKE SECOND LEFT TO PIEDMONT. 9) IGNORE LEFT FORK. PARK ON STREET. LOOK FOR BUILDING FACING THE RENTAL OFFICE. 10) APARTMENT IS FURTHEST FROM THE STREET, APT. 11A, GROUND FLOOR. 11) TEL: 516-331-5369 IF LOST. Peace, and hope to see some of you on Saturday! :^) - FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 21:16:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MSTAUDINGER@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: HOM-2 if anyone could offer rides for me and three friends to Red from NYC it would be greatly appreciated...or better yet from Wellesley MA which would be on the way anyway from most points south and west :) michelle ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 21:24:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: red In-Reply-To: <9403100143.AA63963@moose.uvm.edu> has anyone heard of red being cancelled? if it isn't i need a place to stay the night before as i will be coming from vermont. if anyone can help me out with rides or lodging please let me know. also does anyone know how much i could get for an old 606 drum machine? peace jk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 21:27:40 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , wo ai tina Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: wo ai tina Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: gear is way cool In-Reply-To: <199403100115.UAA07187@umd5.umd.edu> hardfloor dedicated their LP to the inventor of the 303, i think.... if someone has it.. can they check it out? peace >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 21:34:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jetta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jetta Subject: MINOR INFRACTION (directions and info) 11 March 1994 M I N O R I N F R A C T I O N Schneider Center a microrave* Wellesley College with LIVE PERFORMANCE BY: f(x) Wellesley, MA DJ's: donato (house of lordvale) secret agent mellow (dEEEtroit) oz (blisss, boston) jimmy hat (condom, boston) sprockett (albany, boston) and DJ ROO spinning the ambient chillout room in Cafe Hoop. FREE JUICEBAR by da joisey girls lasers by JNA *microrave meaning a little itty bitty rave from 8pm-2am DIRECTIONS: FROM EAST: Take 90W to 95S/128S to 16W (Wellesley). Take 16W to town of Wellesley--road will split where 16W goes up a hill and 135W goes straight ahead--continue on 16W at this point. At the next traffic light at the *bottom* of the hill, take a right (sign for Wellesley College at this entrance)--golf course on your left. Then 4th left will be a big parking lot--Founders Lot--park there. One block up the hill is Schneider Center (you'll pass by the Chapel on your left, then Schneider will be ahead of you). FROM WEST: Take 90E to 95S/128S then follow above directions (on Route 16W). FROM SOUTH: Take whatever to 95N to 16W then follow above directions (on Route 16W). FROM NORTH: Take 95S/128S to 16W and follow above directions (on Rte. 16W). INFOLINE: 617.283.1944 DIRECTIONS: 617.283.2678 Any further questions, e-mail JETTA@OLAF.WELLESLEY.EDU On the day of the event, I will be either picking up gear/people or at the site. If you need directions, call me at 617.283.2678 ON THE DAY OF THE EVENT. Otherwise, I'll check voice mail (617.283.1944) periodically throughout the day. thanks :) hope to see lots of you there! yay! wfs jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 18:32:26 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: Introduction (again) Howdy Doody Time? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 22:46:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: MINOR INFRACTION (directions and info) In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 09 Mar 94 21:34:22 -0500. <9403100231.AA03359@MIT.EDU> I know this is kinda late and may be a pain in the ass, but I was wondering if you could possibly move me from the 1st spot at 8:30 to maybe the 2nd spot. You may have read this already, but Casper and I are doing a little pre-Minor Infraction thing before the party and it's gonna end at 7:00 so I'm gonna have to be in a great deal of hurry to get to Wellesley. It's not gonna be impossible to get there on time (I can find rides there), but just to be safe, I thought maybe I'd let you know. If you have any problems with this, just tell me and I promise I will be there by 7:30. Thanks for listening. JimmY |-|/\T ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 22:58:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Butcher Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Butcher Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <199403091643.LAA14667@umd5.umd.edu> > think about this.... > IF IS WASN'T FOR THE x0x MACHINES..... > NONE OF US WOULD BE HERE!!!!!!!! I'd still be here. I'd also be playing my Prophet and my Juno! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom Butcher tb303+@cmu.edu email me for my PGP key ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 23:21:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Places to stay on Long Island Hi guys and gals, I feel really bad about not offering a place to rest after Future Groove, so I took the liberty of calling a few hotels/motels in the area. The format is name, telephone number (all are area code 516), and unless otherwise stated, their day rate for a Sunday. Room price does not include tax unless specifically stated. Other comments about each follow. Econolodge 588-6800 $63.37 for full day, 27.32 for 3-hour stay; includes tax. I've stayed, pretty good for the 3-hour rate. Holiday Inn 585-9500 $79.00 for full day. Expensive, friends have stayed here, standard holiday inn. MacArthur Motor Inn 588-7700 $47.00 for full day. Sayville Motor Lodge 589-7000 $45.00 for full day, 30.00 for 3-hour stay. Stayed here a few years ago, was OK back then. If anyone one needs directions on how to get to these places, talk to me Saturday at the party. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Mar 1994 23:39:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: gear is way cool In-Reply-To: <199403100115.UAA07187@umd5.umd.edu> i couldn't agree wiason more... i remember the old days when i hardly had ANY gear.. and, to be honest, many tiems t, i was MCH more reative than i am now.. it seems as tho the LESS you have.. the more you hae to push and experiment to get results.. which leas to much more original ideas. i haven't touched my 909 or 808 in days.. and instead turned to the jupiter6 and matrix6 for drums... behind evypiece o gear *is* a face.. thas hy you can tell richie awtin's 303 lies from adams x's 303 lines. and lots of gear doesn't necessarily mean bettermusic, it just mens mor options. one of t most ispirational tapes iver heard was done with a RX-5 drum machine, and SH-101 and an acoustic guiar + a 4-track. DIG INTO THAT GEAR. fuck with it and make it *you* xoxoxox >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:07:44 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andrew Bennett Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andrew Bennett Subject: Will I see you?? Greetings to the NE-Raves gang! As most of you know, I'm flying out from Cincinnati to visit some friends in the area, AND to spin at Minor Infraction. I'll be down in the ambient room later spinning chill music. I hope to meet as many of you as I can. Please stop me and say 'hi'. I'd appreciate it. I'll have a pair of blue jeans on, and a long sleeve hooded sweatshirt, the back of which is red, the front of which has vertical stripes on it. Maybe a black Celtics hat, and of course my MW-Raves badge. Thanks. Peace. Andrew -- Andrew Bennett abennett@phoenix.aps.muohio.edu "You're from Texas? That's beautiful." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:59:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Test Testing.. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:39:47 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Everything Ok? Sorry to bother, I haven't gotten any NE-Raves mail in a doy or two. Is it me? Am I bouncing mail or something? Anyone? Everyone just spontaniosly combust out there? Help! I feel so ALONE!!! Heheheh....really tho just wanted to know if it was me or you... Thanks! Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================ [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre \ "God is like a big / HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College / shiny man" \ HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY \ Fr. Jamros / HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ 14208-1045 / Rel. Studies Teacher \ ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM ] [------------------\-------------------------/---------------------------] [ "Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered!", Black Adder ] [\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/] \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 20:19:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KEVIN LAMB AKA DJ SPIF Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KEVIN LAMB AKA DJ SPIF Subject: ROM this! The time has come and the invasion has begun: Saturday June 18, 1994 Funky Alien Gizmos brings Cleveland Ohio an invasion of epic proportions. For the first time in Cleveland a very large clean venue has been chosen and a very PHAT lineup has been obtained. Look for info soon till then call- 216.238.1451. -- Kevin Lamb aka Dj Shaft ATSXL617@KSUVXA.KENT.EDU Phat ass house and jazz beats to knock ya off ya seats now available for your listening pleasures. Contact at above address. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 19:15:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Amnon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Amnon Subject: Mail Problem Hi. I don't know if it's just me, or if there's actually something wrong with the listserv, but for the past two days I haven't been able to get any posts. As far as the computer services here know, there's nothing wrong with the university's mail server. Is there something wrong with the system? Let me know wassup. -amnon _____ |\ | __ __ ____ (_____ | \ | (__) (__) |____) | | _____) | \| | |____| | | ________________________________________| GOD OF GROOVE AND HERO OF THE HAPPYPEOPLE ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 16:02:15 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Quentin Rogers Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- RSCS tag indicates an origin of $SMTPSRV@UMDD From: Quentin Rogers Subject: mailing list "SUB DISCUSS" Ambient/tech DJ in cultural backwater (Victoria B.C. Ca.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 22:32:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jetta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jetta Subject: RIDE OFFER FROM BOSTON TO FUTURE GROOVE Sprockett asked me to post this: He and a friend are renting a car from Albany to BOston for the microrave and will be driving down on Saturday to go to Future Groove. He is offering a ride from Boston to Long Island AND back again (to Boston) for 2-3 people (the backseat is free). So let me (jetta) know by tomorrow night (3/11) by 5pm at VWANG@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU... or, if you are going to be at MINOR INFRACTION (which you all should be...) you can spot either one of us there... OK... guess that's it. wfs jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 23:51:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: National 303 Day In-Reply-To: <94Mar8.014405edt.71218-3@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU" at Mar 8, 94 1:41 am > > i've noticed that a LOT of people are judging people on the gear that they use. > i have to take an opposing view to this; its not what you hav, its how you use > it. case closed. > To go one step further...it doesnt matter what you use, how you use it, but *how it sounds* that matters..isnt that the whole point to begin with? if a track was people banging to sticks together, but it sounded really nice, thats all that matters to me =) just some change ~$.02 harmon-e...pLUr! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 21:02:07 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: gear "It's not the wand, it's the Magician." Neil ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 00:09:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Bus Trip This is Chris here again, with a reminder that there are *still* spaces open on my bus that is going to PleasureDome on April 9th and 10th. The cost is $52 which includes ticket in and round trip from Athens Ohio to D.C. I really do need people to fill the bus so ***PLEASE*** give me a call or send E-Mail ASAP!!!! If you would like more info just ask.. This is going to be a great trip, and we all need to go and show our support for 1.8.7. who will be doing a live PA.. So come on and join us! :) Well just drip me a line.... Later.... -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 03:27:43 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , dennis barton <70531.2124@COMPUSERVE.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: dennis barton <70531.2124@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: LA Hardcore compilation Hi all, Just a quick note to say that the techno compilation "LA Hardcore" is now in the stores. It has some breakbeat, some house, and some progressive stuff.. Urb reviewed it and said: "Now, in perhaps one of the most ambitious compliation released showcasing the talent of Angleno's, La Hardcore Vol 1 provides the listener with a sampler of some of the talent that makes up the LA scene. Provided is the talent of such well known LA artists and DJs such as Smashing Atoms, Dj Spinn, Kool Ade, Paperboy2000, RAW, Vitamin D, RD2000, The Disciples of House and several more. Even more interesting is how LA Hardcore takes a stab at true LA unity by including a cross section of the various techno sub genres, like Kool Ade and Marco's freestyle house, or Paperboy2000's galloping breakbeat and making it fit nicely next to Beatmistresses "S&M" track, "Dominate the Rhythm". But what would this DJ sampler be without at least one sampling of LA's local Dj talent? "Club What?"'s Vitamin D works his wheels of steel in a 12 minute finale appropriated titled Beat Mixer. Both the talent and energy can be felt on this release but the best part is knowing that it was put together by fans of this scene, rather than by folks that write books on getting rich." Anyway, I have a breakbeat track on it under the name Paperboy2000, so hopefully some of you will check it out. It's on VRG/Direct Drive and is at Music Plus, Tower and Virgin here in LA, and should be in stores all over the country... I am now working on a trance project under the name "skylab2000" and will have some new stuff out soon. Write me if you are interested! -= Dennis Barton 70531.2124@compuserve.com =- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:06:50 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: la hardcore as far as i'm concerned... and from what i've heard.... when BPMs are taken into consideration..... what LA calls "hardcore" the east coast calls "ambient" (oooooh what a slam on the west coast) UP-tempo! UP-tempo!! UP-tempo!!! UP-tempo!!!! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:13:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: SPRING BREAK!!!!! hey everybody! i am going on spring break in about 10 minutes! look at the time that i am writing this, and if you send me any mail between then and the 20th of march, i won't be able to respond i hope i see some of you at a rave. my gimmick is army tankers goggles. you can't miss them i also have a backpack with a little bright green cogwheel on the zipper. i have short, black hair, and my friends say i look sort of like Paul Elstak of Euromasters and Holy Noise. i am 5'10" and i wear green chuck taylors, soon-to-be platformed! i hope i see some of you soon. while i'm on the topic, why doesn't everyone else send a description of what they look like???? hmm UP-tempo! (p.s. "up-tempo is a line from one of my favourite songs: "Interview At 200" by Rob Gee, he he he) 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 08:14:37 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Pete Ashdown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Orbital Mailing List Orbital Contact: majordomo@xmission.com Purpose: This mailing list is dedicated as a service to keep fans of the musical group Orbital informed and connected. To subscribe, mail to majordomo@xmission.com, with "subscribe orbital" for the unmoderated list, or "subscribe orbital-digest" for the digested version, in the body of the message. Owner: owner-orbital@xmission.com (Pete Ashdown) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I need more material for the archives. Especially text (reviews, articles, interviews, etc) and pictures. I have placed what I have in the ftp directory on xmission.com:/pub/lists/orbital. If you have anything you can add, please upload it to xmission.com:/pub/users/pashdown. Thanks and see you on the list! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 11:00:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Test Just running another test. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:01:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: gear In-Reply-To: <199403111306.IAA05042@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 10 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > "It's not the wand, it's the Magician." its not four or five people beating a horse that's been dead since the second post, its the four or five people beating a horse that's been dead since the second post. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 12:30:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Future Groove In-Reply-To: <199403111513.KAA11577@umd5.umd.edu> Well, since we are setting the bar up at Future Groove I thought that this would be a great place for all of us net ravers to meet. I will try to make a sign that says cybertribe...but if I don't have enough time just look for the Liquid Technology sign! :) (I'm the small girl with short bleached blond hair) Hope to meet you all sometime during the evening :) Peace All, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 13:24:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bruce Krysiak Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bruce Krysiak Subject: Re: red / 606 In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 09 Mar 94 21:24:24 -0500. <9403100224.AA02986@MIT.EDU> Hi Jennifer - No, I haven't heard anything about Red being cancelled (although I guess I'm not in the loop that much as I'm going to be in Florida that week... :) On the other hand, I'll tell you that I will pay $60 for a 606, assuming it still works, etc. I'm trying to build my own version for a class project, and it'd probably be helpful for me to actually _have_ one to see how it works ;) I can probably even drive up and pick it up some weekend, so you don't have to deal with shipping, etc... Anyways, just thought I'd give my .02 (or my $60.00 :) Let me know.... - Bruce Krysiak brucek@athena.mit.edu ------//------ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 14:21:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: gear up for grabs??? i would like to know if anyone is interested in selling any old cheesy-sounding keyboards invented before MIDI, patch-cable preferred here's what i'm doing, feel free to capitalize off of it... old keyboards had VCO and VCAs built in, you had to patch them to get what to where, using 1/4 inch cables i am making a random number generator, and using it in conjunction with an oscillator and an amplifier after a bunch of attempts, sooner or later i will be able to have a circuit randomly create acid music patterns in the background i think that it would be sort of funky sounding. input? anyone? views? worth attempting? have an old Korg or Boss that is collecting dust? a 303-like machine, or a theremin? thanks for your time UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 15:19:44 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Will I see you?? hello every1 once again, mistress loretta and i wii ll be at future groove sellin' our sno snoKones, soo..stop bye , say hi and of cous rse, get your free one!:) it was nice meeting all o;f you of you at the past a events...:) sorry o about fan the fantsy pro asy project...our sign was a little unimaginatic ve:(, it will be mux ch better this time:) hope to see you there!:) peaz out...peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 17:07:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: women The thing that's a little mystifying to me, is that people seem to be in favor of shutting down their sexual instincts in a rave-situation to avoid offending members of the opposite sex. I think that the power of mutual attraction between two human beings is one of the most amazing things in the world, and to ignore that side of ourselves would be a shame.. Not to say that the pick-up scene is good - it's far from it, because it doesn't embody any mutual respect for both parties involved - it's more of a predator-prey type relationship. There has to be some middle ground where we are able to acknowledge our attraction to others, yet maintain respect for other individuals. I suppose this needs to be fully understood and accepted before anyone becomes comfortable with it. The vibe thing is wonderful, but it's just a tiny little indication of what could be. I mean, don't you ever want to get to know the person who's projecting that vibe? I don't think raves have to be so anti-social, and I also don't think that men are the only ones who are eager to meet and interact with members of the opposite sex - that's just society talking. Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 01:34:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: gear is way cool Hey Jason - i couldn't agree with you more.. Fuck that faceless, gear-worshipping, no personality-having, no emotion- conveying, non-expressive techno bollocks bullshit! (..phew) Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 17:32:27 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: women In-Reply-To: <199403112046.PAA27639@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 10 Mar 1994, Darshan M. Jesrani wrote: > The thing that's a little mystifying to me, is that people seem to be in > favor of shutting down their sexual instincts in a rave-situation to avoid > offending members of the opposite sex. I think that the power of mutual > attraction between two human beings is one of the most amazing things in > the world, and to ignore that side of ourselves would be a shame.. Amen! I wanted to say this but couldn't find the right words. Ihave met many of my girlfriends at raves and I wasn't trying to pick them up. It just happened. Hey, in one case she picked me up so go figure... :) Joe ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:03:06 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mary-Kathryn Whitney Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <11MAR94.20605727.0098.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: Mary-Kathryn Whitney Subject: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: In reply to your message of THU 10 MAR 1994 09:07:48 AST ================================================================== Darshan writes ... > The thing that's a little mystifying to me, is that people seem to be in >favor of shutting down their sexual instincts in a rave-situation to avoid >offending members of the opposite sex. I think that the power of mutual >attraction between two human beings is one of the most amazing things in >the world, and to ignore that side of ourselves would be a shame.. > > Not to say that the pick-up scene is good - it's far from it, because it >doesn't embody any mutual respect for both parties involved - it's more of >a predator-prey type relationship. There has to be some middle ground where >we are able to acknowledge our attraction to others, yet maintain respect >for other individuals. I suppose this needs to be fully understood and >accepted before anyone becomes comfortable with it. > > The vibe thing is wonderful, but it's just a tiny little indication of >what could be. I mean, don't you ever want to get to know the person who's >projecting that vibe? > > I don't think raves have to be so anti-social, and I also don't think that >men are the only ones who are eager to meet and interact with members of the >opposite sex - that's just society talking. > ================================================================ Hi! M-K here. Just want to say that I find this thread very interesting since I hold strong feminist beliefs. No, I do *not* hate all men nor am I gay (these are the stereotypes that are sometimes associated with radical feminists, so I just wanted to clarify this up front. I am sometimes attracted to raver guys & I like the idea of meeting interesting members of the opposite sex. My friends & I definitely look around for guys we find attractive & it certainly is fun to meet some of them. I don't think we necessarily want to "pickup" but hey, love & sex are pretty powerful drives that provide lots of pleasure for men & women. I think that the potential to make friends & lovers is a part of raving just like the music and dancing is. I agree completely with everything darshan has said, although he is really only touching on a very large topic. (For example, no one has really written about the scarcity of women DJ's (as compared to men) nor women promoters, or how about female artists, etc. Also, I feel the threat of harassment & violence is so deeply ingrained in most women at a very young age, that it completely alters the way we interact with men, especially strangers. So guys, I hope you'll understand that although we realize that you are not all rapists, or hostile, some of us have been trained to be cautious. Also, there are a fair number of women who have been harassed or intimidated at some point in their lives (remembering crowded bars where my ass has been grabbed by cowardly guys, looking to make themselves feel stronger at my expense) and this reinforces the non-trusting attitude. This type of socialization might explain why *some* women seem paranoid *sometimes* - better safe than sorry, eh? Also everytime I have been harassed or assaulted and I did nothing about it I became a little more angry. Thus there is a certain amount of pent-up mistrust & frustration that lends itself to a non-plur attitude. BTW, the last time a guy did this to me in a club ... I fought back for the first time ... I turned around & stared at him angrily for a few seconds, and then tossed my full glass of beer at him. Of course, he squacked & and yelled at me, saying something about me being "crazy", but damn, I felt totally vindicated & empowered. Then my roommate quickly grapped me & we ran off to safety. I think that ravers who think about the plur thing, will at least strive for the ideals. It follows then, that at raves Ido feel somewhat more safe & respected, but it is a very subtle thing. I forget who said it but you don't improve yourself, or the world unless you set your goals a little higher and I know for certain that it was Socrates who thought we should constantly search for the good by questioning ourselves. Certain ravers do take plur seriously & I think that this is a good thing. Well, I could go on & on about this but I have probably already bored everyone enough. Hope I haven't sounded too preachy but I passionately want better relations between men & women. Cheerios! Mary-Kathryn ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:16:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day hmmm, why not set it to 606..... um, cuz we got no use for those ;)... 106 maybe, but 606 never ;) (as I sit here playing with a 606...oops...shhh ;) ) peace. later. <<>kyle<>> kherlihy@center.colgate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:18:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: National 303 Day yeah....and 303's aren't that special in themselves....gee processing might have a little to do with it ;) later. <<>kyle<>> kherlihy@center.colgate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 10:29:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: gear is way cool Taylor - I've heard that Hardfloor album and I think it's an un-inspired piece of shit, with the exception of the last track - which is a beautiful down-tempo acid house number with really nice strings.. Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 19:47:49 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: women Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 11-MAR-94 19:37 >From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" >Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 17:07:48 -0400 >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > > The thing that's a little mystifying to me, is that people seem to be in >favor of shutting down their sexual instincts in a rave-situation to avoid >offending members of the opposite sex. I think that the power of mutual >attraction between two human beings is one of the most amazing things in >the world, and to ignore that side of ourselves would be a shame.. > > Not to say that the pick-up scene is good - it's far from it, because it >doesn't embody any mutual respect for both parties involved - it's more of >a predator-prey type relationship. There has to be some middle ground where >we are able to acknowledge our attraction to others, yet maintain respect >for other individuals. I suppose this needs to be fully understood and >accepted before anyone becomes comfortable with it. > > The vibe thing is wonderful, but it's just a tiny little indication of >what could be. I mean, don't you ever want to get to know the person who's >projecting that vibe? > > I don't think raves have to be so anti-social, and I also don't think that >men are the only ones who are eager to meet and interact with members of the >opposite sex - that's just society talking. > > Darshan >--- Who says it has to be a member of the opposite sex? Anyhow, raves arent antisocial......they are antisexual I think If you dont meet twenty people at each rave you goto, you arent doin' it right and thats if you dance for 8 hours! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 20:35:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Women... I hate to waste bandwith, but I am in a rush and wanted to make another comment about this: In my eyes, strangers are my friends until proven innocent of that crime... Do you understand what I mean by that? When I meet somebody, I would rather say a kind word than none at all....and I _assume_ that they are friendly until they prove me wrong: by being obnoxious, snotty, etcetera...and even then, I don't hold it against them. -Akeera ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Mar 1994 21:15:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: women -Akeera, not a waste of bandwidth at all!! Very concise, and my feelings exactly. Jason ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Mar 1994 13:58:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Subject: minor infraction review hey everyone, i'm glad that i am typing this because i have lost my voice mino r infraction last night was great! and the pre-party at julian's was fun too! ! stefa and i got to the preparty about 6:30 or so and julian and jimmy hats had the music going and everyone was chatting and eating some pizza i got to mmeet some of the MIT raverss we left around 7:30 andheaded out to minor infraction stefan and i got to minor infraction around 9:30 or so we just missed chris melloww but from what i hearhii set was great jimmy hats was spinning when we got there and people dancing since i am fairly new to raves and techno i'm not going to try to classify what kind of music he was spinning, but itt had people dancing early in the night :) unfortunately, i was and still am sick i spent most of my night downstairs in the chill out roommtalkingto &-rooo in bteeen coughing and hacking my lungs up abut heplayed me some hardcore! so i was happy :) i did go upstairs for a little bit of oz's set because i *had* to dance for at least a few miinutes and the night was almost over oz was spinning some hard(?)) trance and i danced for about 20 minutes with all the neravers that were there i wishh i could have danced more i heard all the dj's were greatandd everyone i talked to was a great time mucho thanks to vanessa and everyone elsee who helped to throw this party it was lots of fun and i hpe moree events like this happen in the boston area it'm really glad igot to meet all of the wonderful neravers that were there jill ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 01:05:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: what's this confusion? Dude- Dj Dmityry was book through Howard Shaeffer in New York. His contract was signed through his agent and was placed on the flyer ONLY AFTER THIS EVENT TOOK PLACE. Please refrain from spreading false and malicious rumors, especially ones which you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT! Thank you. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 14:42:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ECO Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ECO Subject: Re: Women... Akeera said: > In my eyes, strangers are my friends until proven innocent of that > crime... Akeera . . .never found a comment closer to real. I have always felt this way too. I got this from my crazed exhippy parents but it really made an impression on me. My father would die for a stranger but yet expect the people he was close to not to ask as much from him because he had already given them so much. This has gotten him into so much trouble. Just two weeks ago he was mugged after offering a man a cigarette when he asked. This made me very angry, but my father was unaffected. He won't stop believing in humanity because some strong derelict got the best of him. I have gotten in the same sort of trouble sometimes. We all have our nuerosis and fears, but when you are urban people get defensive and armored. As far as the rave scene not being a place entirely for contrived happiness, this is true, but every hardcore and badattitude don't have to stomp to show their power. We were all babies before we grew into fools. I can't help but laughing at myself and can't see how others could cop this sort of thing. I could be wrong. I'd like understand. . . Hello to all I met at Minor Infraction. Thanks to Jetta. Hey Casper, Fish, Jessica, Jill, roo, oz, hank, mark, taylor, tasha, and the rest. . .:) 'kodomo' ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 15:14:48 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Back to the Future Groove Where to begin... I arrived there at 11 PM, after going during the day to the site to check out the parking situation. FG turned out to be five minutes from my house -- talk about a road trip. I thought that the security guys at the front were wiseasses, and not as 'nice' as the ones that I met at Positive Energy. Inside, the space was chilly, as not that many people were there yet, and not that many people were dancing. I sort of floated around for the first hour, dancing here and there, and looking for familiar faces. I'm not going to name everyone that I met, as that would be a long list. Suffice it to say that it was nice meeting new people and seeing old ones. After a bit, I headed over to the new talent room, and stayed for only a little while, as it was too tightly packed to really dance. Did anyone there see the guys with the monkey? It looked like the same one from the Little Rascals show. As far as music goes, I'm not sure who was spinning when in the main room. I did enjoy dieselboy's set, though if I had that many people looking at me while I was spinning, I'd mess up. I also got to hear Oz and Sprockett play, which really got me in the mood to dance. Anyone know who was spinning in the main room from 4-5:30? On a sliding scale of 1-10, I'd split the event into two: From 11PM - 3AM, a 5.0, and from 3-5:30, a 7.5. Hope to see some of you at Red. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 18:06:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NUT Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NUT Subject: Kick It KICK IT was rather fun and I had a great time meeting as many net-ravers as I could. I especially liked the location I had only been there once before back in May for Culture. The lights on the house floor were rather nice and created a neat atmosphere (at least in the middle of the floor). The lights on the upstairs floor were okay, I think it was really cool when they turned off all the lights and just had the red and green lasers shoot across the dance floor. The only thing that really got to me was the volume (or lack of it) I always say to my friends I wish they would keep the music just a little lower to preserve my hearing but I guess when it isn't that loud (like Kick It) I want it Thumpin. I guess I'm a hypocrite. Kudos to Nigel for making the fire alarm sound as if it went along with the music. Peace Kyran ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:04:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: numbers In-Reply-To: <9403111825.AA113701@moose.uvm.edu> could someone please tell me approx. how many people are subscribed to this list. just curious <<>> ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 20:29:53 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Has anyone? Sorry for such a short question... Has anyone ever heard of a group call 808 State? Are they any good? Do they even do Techno? Thanks and PLUR, Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================ [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre \ "God is like a big / HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College / shiny man" \ HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY \ Fr. Jamros / HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ 14208-1045 / Rel. Studies Teacher \ ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM ] [------------------\-------------------------/---------------------------] [ "Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered!", Black Adder ] [\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/] \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:16:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jetta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jetta Subject: Minor Infraction review Thanks to all who came to M.I....and special *wfs* to those of you who helped out *so* much (sprockett!!!, donato, jessica, bruce, cmellow, jeannie, oz, jimmy hat, roo, taylor, tina...the list goes on and on)-- So anyway, around 8pm, I started the event with a brief set before secret agent mellow (cmellow) took over at 8:30...already, people were dancing. We had a nice setup with stacks (um...about 1000W?), cool flashing colored lights and strobes and so on... mellow took over with a good trance/house set...then jimmy hat with more mindblowing trance and excellent mixing...the live act, f(x) performed immediately after jimmy hat's set with some beautiful trance/acid which mixed well into sprockett's funky discoey housey (???) set... becca (ma) and i nearly died when he put on jam & spoon's "follow me" at the end...donato took over with some funky house and oz ended the night with hard (beautiful) trance. unfortunately, the town police (normally we have campus police do on-campus events, but for some reason they gave us these assholes from town) cut off the whole evening a half-hour early by turning on the lights and telling the dj (oz) to turn it off (which was rude, needless to say)... during the 6 hour event, dj roo from cincinnati (&-roo), spun ambient in the chillout room downstairs, where blacklight and beanbags set the mood for the room... lots of ne/v-ravers were there -- thanks for coming!!! i've heard a lot of positive feedback all day yesterday and today from random people. i'm sorry i missed future groove, but we were sort of wiped out from this event. all i can say is thank you to all who made a rave (microrave) happen here at wellesley (wow)--it's been a long time since i actually felt a *vibe* at a rave (no matter how big or how small), and there was definitely a happy one on friday night. :) yay! *wfs* to all luff jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:29:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Future Groove what a strange weekend. If you haven't heard by now, a bunch of ne-ravers including myself were spinning in the "new talent room" at Future Groove. I was a bit disappointed when I saw how small the space was. It was the size of my living room and the bathroom was right there so most of the time there was a line of people waiting along the back wall. Still, the intentions of having a new talent room were very honorable. I wish I had known I was going to be using a mixer a step below the dreaded Gemini scratchmasters. I could have brought our own mixer for that matter and done a better job at mixing... but I'm never satisfied and perfect is never good enuf so anyway, onto the gossip. While I was spinning, some guy who I later found out was drunk & tripping his ass off kept tapping me in the middle of a mix and bugging me. First of all, there's nothing worse than being harassed in the middle of a mix. In an unintelligable mumble he basically tells me that his friend from Philly was supposed to spin before Micro out in the front room but he lost his spot. Well what can I do? He goes on to tell me that this DJ friend of his is getting on now. WAIT! I just got on and I'm spinning for the next 45 minutes I tell him. So he tells me he'll be getting on next and I tell him that my friend Chris Mellow is up next. I also tell him I'm sorry if your friend lost his slot but why should we give up one of our slots for him? This is pretty rude and I was insulted at what he was implying. Oz spun a very good set and at the end the guy who owns the decks gets up, takes off the record in a rude manner, turns the decks sideways so that he can scratch and just took over when Sprockett was supposed to be next. When Derek was spinning, this same guy kept bugging Derek and telling him how he should be cutting up the mix like you would with hip-hop. So I figured I'd be getting my fair share of hassle. Anyway, this jerk (not the jerk who owns the decks but the drunk/tripping jerk) kept messing with me and then he walked right into the table and of course the needle jumps right across the record I'm spinning. Now, I like to be on the same level as the dance floor but when people do things like this, it makes me just want to be in a closed off space somewhere away from everyone. Well the rest of my set went reasonably well thanks to Derek who managed to keep this guy away from me. Chris Mellow was next and suddenly this asshole comes back and starts harassing him. Since I didn't want him to do the same thing to him as he did to me, I went up to the guy and asked him what he wanted and if he could leave the DJ alone. He starts giving me story about how Chris has to get off the decks so his friend can get on. He doesn't remember coming up to me and telling me the same story. I say, "so where is this guy anyway? If he wants to spin so badly why isn't he here?" So he takes of his glasses and knocks off my hat and says, "now look what you made me do, I had to take my glasses off" and starts getting really loud with me saying he's Hispanic and that he's going to slap me. I tell him I'm Latino too that I realize he's drunk (I can smell it and it's rather obvious) and that I don't want to fight with him, trying to calm him down but he starts pushing me and yelling really loud at me telling me I have a "fake white accent" so I explain that I lived in England for awhile and we keep arguing and suddenly he just punched me. I held him back as best I could and luckily Phil and friends were nearby to hold him back. The funny part is that when he got up, he ran around the room and tripped over the cords and knocked out the mixer and then yelled something about being from Wisconsin??? Then security guards come and take him away. What a sick fuck. One of the guards comes up to me and says, "I don't know what you did to provoke that guy but we kicked him out" and walked away. "Wait a minute!" I went up to the guard and said I didn't provoke him so he says, well he hit you first so you must have provoked him. How assuming! "but you haven't even listened to my side of it!?" Needless to say, soon after this we left. The only time I really saw a decent amount of people dancing out front was during dieselboy's set. Otherwise, I was unimpressed with the evening. The warehouse was huge yet the speakers were tiny in comparison. A good soundsytem is essential for a good party. Most party organizers & promoters don't seem to realize this. There really weren't that many big name DJs so I can't see where all that money went to. At the door, the staff were refusing to give me my DJ guest list too. Not enuf peace, love, unity or RESPECT at this party. I'm getting very disillusioned with our scene, especially the bad vibes. Cheers to Spam/Chris for at least having us though. :) ___ "The genius is not something added to oneself but a / / / / / / _ __/ stripping away of excess to reveal the god within." (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ Peter Carroll, Liber Null finger -l kia@eden.rutgers.edu for PGP key ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:20:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: TIMEWARP 2+3 OFFICIAL LINE-UP!!! Dear brothers and sisters, Here it is, the info you have been waiting for, the official line-up for TIMEWARP 2+3 on Friday, April 29 in Allentown, Pennsylvania. ZONE 1: Adam X, Jimmy Crash, James Christian, dieselboy and geoffe breakbeat in yer face 2 hour jam, ikon ZONE 2: Wink, DB, Scott Richmond, Goodwill, Miko ZONE 3: Ursol, Lazlo, Conspiracy Event runs 9p.m. to 6 a.m. with after party to follow. More info to come. Now for the DJ's who sent tapes in for arena four here's what's up. We couldn't secure the fourth room so we decided something nicer. Everyone who sent a tape and we liked(which was about most of them) we will book for a date starting after April 1. Why? Because strarting April 1 "FATHOM" at The Freight Yard will run until 3 a.m. Then in May it will most likely run until 4 a.m. The scene down here just keeps growing and growing and growing... So DJ's who sent tapes in, you are not forgotten, Sprockett, Will-E, Method One(Jason) you will be contacted shortly as well as others. Any questions write or call me. April 1 - Wink is the special guest Anyone who wants press information on what the heck actually happens down here send me your postal mail address(snail mail) and I will send photocopies of what the space looks like, who is involved, and why you too can build a scene out in the middle of nowhere. Live and love together forever, Geoffrey S. Colon geoffe GSC1@Lehigh.Edu (610)758-9969 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:50:36 -0500 Reply-To: Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: Has anyone? In-Reply-To: <199403140011.TAA05726@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Mar 1994, Apocalypse wrote: > Sorry for such a short question... > > Has anyone ever heard of a group call 808 State? Are they any good? Do > they even do Techno? HELL YEAH!!!!!!! [sorry..but really now...] Gorgeous is one of my favorite albums!!! [my love introduced me to them :) ] Mel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:36:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Speed Racer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Speed Racer Subject: Future Groove Hey all...it's been a long time since i posted a review to the list, so i decided to show my face again.... Well, not to get to in depth, but i got to fish's at about 11, after everyone left and so he, mark and myself headed off for the site, got lost a lot and eventually got there at like almost 3. The bag search and frisking was no problem, and i got to take in all my belongings. Unfortunately, when we went to pay and we said we were on the list the guy there said "$10...there is no list" So what the hell happened to the list? Don't get me wrong, $3 isn't much, but it would have paid for 1 bridge toll. Anyway, the first thing i noticed was the amount of people just standing around not dancing. This was the first time i had ever seen this at an event. I found out that Dieselboy was spinning and oz brought me up front. Great set, by the way. In one of the corners there was a small light setup and there was, as far as i could tell, one laser. There was a definite falloff of volume towards the rear of the building...not enough speakers. The floor would have been perfect...polished concrete...if the ventilation had been acutally turned on and it wasn't so damp. I had talcum powder with me, but it would have been a waste to use, turning into a white paste upon meeting the floor. I went into the new talent room and caught Sprockett spinning, then later derek tiffany and chris mellow. You guys were great and could have easily been djing out in the main room...in fact, the vibe existed only in the tiny new-talent room, in my opinion. Plus the carpet was nice to dance on :) As Will-e said, some dope banged around into me and China just before pulling the mixer and headphones off the table and stopping the record during chris' set, leaving him standing there behind the boards with an expression on his face i can't even describe, really. So, that punk got the boot and the vibe picked up again shortly thereafter. I didn't dance much for 2 reasons...first, i forgot to wrap my ankles (chronic tendonitis) second, the vibe, man. The afterhours started with some breakbeat then another dj got on and played some phat funky-ass rekkidz which you couldn't help but dance to if you were within listening distance. I even witnessed the staff dancing :) The best thing about this event was all the netravers i got to see, some of which i hadn't seen in months, plus the new ones, and some non-net ravers too. It felt really good to get such warm welcomes from all of you....and i thought i had been forgotten about :) Okay...the OTHER best thing was when dan and i were walking towards each other and i tried to get out of the way and he moved in the same direction so i went the other way and he grabbed me and gave me a big hug.... :) Thanks dan...i smiled for like 10 minutes straight after that :) (ps-it's ok you didn't recognize me at first ;) here's my list of the fresh folks, as best as i can do...if you aren't on it it's just because i forgot your name, probably, or my memory is failing me :) sprockett, cat, jeannie, cmellow, pholida & boyfriend (who i didn't meet personally), oz, dave (chaos lite), the 9-volt guy who's name i still can't remember, thigpen, bob baxter, fish, mark, becca (MD), China, Jenn-bugg, Peppermint Pattie, Mistress Loretta, Dieselboy, DanFREElove, panix, buffy (non net), lisa (non net), derek tiffany, lawrence (non net),will-e, phil, and some others who's names i can't remember for the life of me, but i will remember the faces. stay fresh, kids joe (speed racer) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 20:50:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: gear is way cool taylor wrote: >hardfloor dedicated their LP to the inventor of the 303, i think.... Um, yeah, they did.....wouldn't they be disappointed to discover that it was "invented" by a bunch o members of the Roland design team in Japan... a bunch of guys in lab coats...not very glamorous any more is it?? :) peace. later. <<>kyle<>> kherlihy@center.colgate.edu P.S. oh yeah Taylor, I hugged mine anyway ;) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 20:47:12 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Kick It! and Future Grooves (to hell and back Okay, I am finally home and awake enough to put in my 2 cents worth about Kick It! and Future Grooves...Let me preface this with I SURVIVED! :) danFREElove Derek and I got on our way up to Philly a bit behind schedule , so we arrives at 611 just before it closed :(. We decided that it would be a good time to go out and get some cheesesteaks (we were in Philly), and then loo k aroung until the rave started. As we drove over to the site for Kick It! we h it a mijor pothole, but we seemed okay at the time... We got to the site and had to wait outside for about 15 minutes before being let in (brrrrrr!). We were frisked at the door, and all water was confiscated, thus upsetting us greatly. :( I was allowed to take my camera inside tho, so I was relieved. :) While we were waiting in line we were provided with free ent ertainment by the "king of the bums". This guy was awful!! Once inside we climbed up 4 flights of stairs (the building looked like a Ba lly's or some other workout gym). The two floors that had been designated as te h floors for the rave had a floor between them that was great for taking a brea ther. The upper floor was more hard, pounding music. Everything from tribal and br eakbeat, to some stuff that I couldn't quite place. The sound wasn't really al l that consistent, and, to harp on a point, there weren't enough speakers for t he space. There was an overhang that the DJs spun on, which blocked any view of them while spinning, and kept them in that dark about what the people were dan cing to... People were definitely dancing, though the lighting could have been better too. There was definitely a happy sort of vibe in the upstairs. I enjoyed it. The lower floor was housy...and when we first got there, the main lights we re still on. Amazingly enough, there were still a lot of people dancing! I thin k that the mirrors on the walls (like an aerobics room) were a big part of that . :) People liked to dance in front of the mirrors, watching themselves and oth ers around them. Overall I found myself frustrated by the constant pauses and breaks in the beats. Just as I would get into a set, the DJ would suddenly switch to somethi ng like spoken voice, thus jarring me out of my happy dancing groove. :( The later it got, tho, the better the sound got, so I guess it ended up alri ght :) Overall -- good job. It was organized and well done. Hi to all the nette rs I saw and thanks to all the DJs. :) Dan Derek and I left to follow bPa to his place, but alas, we had a flat tir e (from the pothole). So We changed the tire, put the donut on, and went over t o bPa's to sit and chill for a bit before continuing on to Future Grooves. WE bid our farewells to the Philly crew, and started on our way north, but again, bad luck. The donut went flat!! Ugh! So we asked a cop and found a place to get the original tire fixed, and we were on our way. Those potholes are really hug e!! We arrived at Phil Z and Will-E's in one piece, tired, but happy to have go tten there. I went out and walked about for an hour or so, bought a new hat, an d then crashed until that evening. When we woke up we were treated to hearing W ill-E Derek and dB spin a bit. (That was an awsome wake up alarm guys :) Dan, Derek and I took off for Fish's place for the pre-party and pizza. We got there about 9:30 and ate pizza, made and got intro'd to everyone there. Lo t's of people! (about 20). Then it was off to Future Grooves. The directions w ere sketchy at best, and it was more a matter of luck thet we found the place ( "head towards the train station" -- what train station???) We parked in he bac k of the warehouse, and went up to the front to get in. No guest list, and the y had to get Spam to come over and okay to let us in. Inside was a big space, kinda chilly, and already filled with smoke. I had to go back outside and get some stuff from the car, and that's when I started to get frustrated..They were n't letting anyone out! Finally I snagged a security pass from DJ Panick (than k you!!) and went out and got back inside without too much trouble. While I was outside, one of he cops that was outside asked me about what was going on. He looked at some of the flyers that I had with me about other raves, and he seeme d interested in hearing about what a rave is, exactly. So I explaine about it, and he seemed pleased. He even tooka Future Grooves flyer!Really nice guy. :) Back inside, more people had arrived and it started to get warmer. The so und system was inadequate for the size of he main room, and the New Talent roo was way too small.... No one seemed to be dancing, except for a bit while diese lBoy was spinning. As one person told me "I would be dancing, except that I fe el like I would be fighting against the crowd that is here to do it. " Basical ly little vibe, Security was not very helpful, and the organization was not app arent. In the New DJ room there was no list of who was going to spin when until Der ek finally did it.And even then there were problems (as others have already pos ted about). I saw many old and new faces, and I hope to see all of you again s oon :) I did see the guys with the monkey, and I got a picture of them. It was ki nda odd, but fun :) Overall, it was a tiring weekend, and a good time to meet many of the net ravers. The vibe wasn't there at F.G., but if you could get a s pace like that, a bigger sound system, and people who will actually want to dan ce...then it would be a kick ass party! A weekend not to be forgotten...:) Becca MD "Just look for the camera flash." ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 21:21:46 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: pictures from Kick it and F.G. For all of you who saw me at Kick It! and Future Grooves. HI!! I should have th ese pictures developed and ready in about a week or so, and I will try to send out copies of what I have :) so if you know that I took your piccy, please emai l me with your address and I will be glad to send the copy to you :) Thanks to Will-E and Phil for letting us crash, and to bPa for his hospitalit y, and to Panick for hi spass at F.G. And to everyone I met, or remet, a BIG hug. Sorry I can't list you all (sinc e th =e list would be about 30 people long) but you know who you are :) PLUR Becca MD :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 21:30:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Oz Lubling Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Oz Lubling Subject: Minor Infraction and Future Groove (damn, I'm tired) hi guys! well, I've been waiting for a full weekend like this for a while. Two parties in one weekend...anywayzz, let's get to the details.. friday at wellesley was vanessa's microrave = minor infraction. I got to site at about 9:30 and caught some of jimmy hat's nice trance set. There was a good turn-out and people were rolling in by the minute. By the time sprockett went on a little later, the dancefloor was pretty much full and people were really grooving. Donato also spun a very nice house/hard house set. Then at 1 am, I started my set....Finally when my nerves started to calm down a bit, I really enjoyed myself and just concentrated on mixing the best set I could. At around 1:30, the cops "rolled" in and started to turn on the lights. At first, I was thinking, oh shit, we are getting shut down, but I just continued on mixing... Then the cop comes up to me and says that I have to turn it off, because it's suppose to end at 1:30. As far as I know, this statement was complete bullshit. The party was going to end at 2 am, which is the general rule at most campuses and around the boston area in general. Well, I told the cop, listen, I'm not in charge here so I can't shut it down, and then I just kept going. I mixed while the cop was starting over my shoulders, literally inches from me, holding a baton and just waiting there. It was classic, hehe. Finally, I was forced to shut down at 1:40.. Oh well, I have to say that I really enjoyed myself regardless and I thought that it was a really good small party. I wish some more of you could have been there. Now, for the second half. Future Groove was set in a small warehouse type building. Some other people have described a lot of the things that happened during this night, so I will just stick to what I noticed. First of all, the room for the new talent was waaaaay too small in my opinion and the sound system was not too good either. When, I first walked into that room, it was almost like a slap in the face, like here, you are not a big time dj so you can spin in this little room the size of someone's living room. I think the room could have *easily* been bigger..Now, it seems to me that most (not all) were really good enough to spin in the main room. Well, I was scheduled to spin after mars at 2 am, and as I'm getting ready to get on, there's this guy standing there and he tells me that he's spinning next and he's going to be spinning hip hop for 30 min. I immediately started to laugh at this point. I couldn't believe it. I told the guy that he could basically screw himself and that I was scheduled to spin next and that's what I'm doing. Luckily, he didn't pull out a fucking gun and shot me. So I spun my set and considering the circumstance, I think things went ok. BTW, will: I also encounted that guy that you were talking about that was coming up to all the djs.. He came up to me also, but I just tried to ignore him. Also, I'm sorry to hear that the guy got violent on you. Some of the good sets that I was able to hear were: wille's beautiful trancey set (good job will), sprockett's funkier set, and derek tiffany's trance set, and of course damian's kick ass set in the main room. It was nice to see some new and old neravers.. thank you all for coming... and thank you chris/spam for giving us all a chance. take care, oz ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 22:11:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: women >> I don't think raves have to be so anti-social, and I also don't think that >>men are the only ones who are eager to meet and interact with members of the >>opposite sex - that's just society talking. >> >> Darshan >>--- John Goldman Writes: >Who says it has to be a member of the opposite sex? I didn't mean to neglect same-sex relationships - I was just speaking about the issue from a male/female relationship standpoint. I think that what I was saying about attraction, et al is pertinent to any type of human relationship.. >Anyhow, raves arent antisocial......they are antisexual I don't really think they should be anti-anything - do you? >I think >If you don't meet twenty people at each rave you goto, you arent doin' it >right I guess I'm doing something wrong.. Actually, I haven't been in any situations lately where I've felt compelled to meet a stranger - that kind of vibe hasn't been present at any of the parties I've been to lately.. Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 22:47:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: Women... In-Reply-To: <199403131945.OAA26985@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Mar 1994, ECO wrote: > Akeera said: > > > In my eyes, strangers are my friends until proven innocent of that > > crime... > > Akeera . . .never found a comment closer to real. I have > always felt this way too. I got this from my crazed exhippy parents > but it really made an impression on me. My father would die for a > stranger but yet expect the people he was close to not to ask as much > from him because he had already given them so much. This has gotten him > into so much trouble. Just two weeks ago he was mugged after offering a > man a cigarette when he asked. This made me very angry, but my father > was unaffected. He won't stop believing in humanity because some strong > derelict got the best of him. I have gotten in the same sort of trouble > sometimes. We all have our nuerosis and fears, but when you are urban > people get defensive and armored. Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. I read something last night that sort of applies-- "If you don't trust the people, you make them untrustworthy." It's too bad that society has beat such twisted principles into people. The focus is completely backwards. It boils down to 'protecting your property,' an idea which is intrinsically wierd. It's a bit too greed-based for me (you can include yourself as your 'property'). I think people need a new way of looking at things. Everyone feels threatened by things that don't mean much of anything (I've had quite a few experiences with people that feel threatened by something/someone that is either quite the opposite, or completely unaware of the person). Oops, sorry-- I think I was preaching. Anyway, I agree wth what you both said. > As far as the rave scene not being a place entirely for contrived > happiness, this is true, but every hardcore and badattitude don't have to > stomp to show their power. We were all babies before we grew into fools. > I can't help but laughing at myself and can't see how others could cop this > sort of thing. I could be wrong. I'd like understand. . . I never understood how the entire 'bad attitude' theme fit into raves. To me, that's something reserved for clubs where I don't go. I know you can't force plur on everyone, but I think the 'dangerous' attitude is out of place at raves. For me, raves are a place where all outside-world baggage is checked at the door. It kind of fits anyway, since there are tons of people you see at every rave you go to, but nowhere else-- sometimes it almost seems like another world, or a 'wandering country' or something. > Hello to all I met at Minor Infraction. Thanks to Jetta. Hey > Casper, Fish, Jessica, Jill, roo, oz, hank, mark, taylor, tasha, and the rest. . > .:) > > 'kodomo' > Sorry if that sounded preachy. Oh. I'm not sure if I've ever formally introduced myself, so I'd like to say 'hi' to everyone on the list. If anyone's planning on going to Spiritual Movement III, I'd love to meet you. If it's anything like the previous 2, it should be a great event. -Sean (abstract) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 19:53:30 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: the whole thing if no-one minds an old-fart lurker poking in, what are your notions about similarities between raves and acid tests? Neil ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 23:10:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: the whole thing >if no-one minds an old-fart lurker poking in, what are your notions about >similarities between raves and acid tests? > Neil Forgive me for asking - but what's an acid test? 90's Child ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 21:17:15 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: Re: the whole thing In-Reply-To: <199403140408.XAA17780@umd5.umd.edu> from "Darshan M. Jesrani" at Mar 13, 94 11:10:00 pm > > >if no-one minds an old-fart lurker poking in, what are your notions about > >similarities between raves and acid tests? > > > Neil > > > Forgive me for asking - but what's an acid test? > > 90's Child > Ditto. What gives? 80's Child ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 21:50:52 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: df. "acid test" Around 1965-66, over about 15 months, there was a loose series of parties, mostly in and around San Francisco, billed as "Acid Tests", which featured plastic garbage cans full of LSD Kool-Aid. This was exactly the time when acid was becoming better and better known; scienteist & intellectuals had been working with it for over a decade, but general civilian knowledge was just really taking off. One of the best descriptions I've heard of the atmosphere (all the dancing and music and games and raps and body and wall and floor painting you imagine, too) is, "Imagine hundreds of people and none of them is afraid." There's a book which has become sort of canonical, despite its basic flaws and distortions, Tom Wolfe's _Electric_KoolDia_Acid_Test_. So, Darshan and Stefan, you've already answered some of my questions; you sound like you've never heard of anything remotely resembling the atmosphere of a good rave happening before. I can't necessarily chat every single day, but I'm interested in following this thread to see the places it will lead. Anyone else have anything to say/ask/tell/whatever? Neil NeilRest@ecotone.toad.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 01:07:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: women In-Reply-To: <199403112046.PAA27639@umd5.umd.edu> > The thing that's a little mystifying to me, is that people seem to be in > favor of shutting down their sexual instincts in a rave-situation to avoid > offending members of the opposite sex. I think that the power of mutual > attraction between two human beings is one of the most amazing things in > the world, and to ignore that side of ourselves would be a shame.. > > Not to say that the pick-up scene is good - it's far from it, because it > doesn't embody any mutual respect for both parties involved - it's more of > a predator-prey type relationship. There has to be some middle ground where > we are able to acknowledge our attraction to others, yet maintain respect > for other individuals. I suppose this needs to be fully understood and > accepted before anyone becomes comfortable with it. ....edit > I don't think raves have to be so anti-social, and I also don't think that > men are the only ones who are eager to meet and interact with members of the > opposite sex - that's just society talking. > > Darshan right on I wish I had time to reply on this subject at length also. Sexuality at the rave can be a positive driving force of life that is totally in context. If getting a good feeling that is sexual in nature from dancing, seeing others dance, or just seeing others and one is respectful of others space and emotions including not pestering those who feel threatened or bothered then why must this be construed as some big evil thing. we alllll love it almost without exception.... paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 00:51:13 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [3/14/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 3/14/94 *************** ********************* "Reviews by DJ John Avery" *************************** ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The DJ Trax 12" Update is now associated with YOUR BEAT RECORDS in Union City, NJ. The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat. This will open up new markets and help to provide interested DJs and music lovers a new source for the most cutting edge dance music. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. As of March 14, interested buyers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to Your Beat Records. Every effort will be made to fill the orders. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Gotta Keep Holdin On"--The Believers (SR-12230) This track shows Strictly's Chicago side. Minimal female vocals accentuate the deep organs and hard percussion track. "Without Love"--U.P.I. (SR-12236) Produced by Newark, New Jersey's own Unreel Productions, this 12" actually features three sample house cuts. My favorite is "On Your Feet" which uses a deep, drippy, bouncing bassline as its foundation. Combined with various male vocal snippets and the introduction of progressive keyboards midway through the mix, this one will work best for all the house DJs. "Spirit"--Phuture (SR-12234) DJ Pierre (AKA Phuture) actually contributes a remix to this Roy Davis produced track. Of course, DJ Pierre's "Tribal Mix" is THE one to program. It features hard percussion work and male vocals repeating something like "You Got The Spirit!!!" The part I like best about this mix is the almost indistinguishable samples of what sounds like Rhythim is Rhythim's "Strings of Life", which adds a slight classic Detroit feeling to it. NPM Records / Strictly Rhythm: "Toxic Influence EP"--Various Cuts (NPM-EP1) What appears to be the first 12" from Strictly's new Trance/Techno label is a definitive offering for the genre. "LFO Trigger" by Cohort runs at 160 BPM with a twangy sound effect throughout the entire mix. "Mellow High" by Digital Virus, is just what the name inplies. We get a very happy, bright sounding trance track but with a little 303 acid thrown in for roughness. Look to Cohort's "March" which is the hardest track on the EP. Clocking in at around 180 BPM, this track uses rave-styled keyboards to help move it along, although the percussion does a fine job of that, even by itself. For techno DJs, this would be a very wise purchase, and it is a good indication of the reputability of Strictly's new techno label. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ One Records: "Roger S. Presents Secret Weapons Volume 1" (ORLP-013) If you are even remotely involved with house, in any way, shape or form, BUY THIS RECORD!!! Remember Jay Williams from "Sweat"? He lends his angelic vocals to "Spirit Lift You Up", a tribal house masterpiece (with vocals nonetheless!!!) An unbelievably perfect track. The other tracks on this double 12" are also equally impressive, using some recognizable samples in unique fashion. Coupled with Roger's harder than hard percussion and splash cymbal, each track has the ablility to work a floor. BUY THIS RECORD!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Nervous / Sorted / Wreck / Weeded Records: "Play With The Voice (RMX)"--Joe T Vannelli feat CSILLA (SO-20084) Joey Beltram hits again with another progressive house remix, continuing in the same vein as "Tales from the RZ". "I Got 'Cha Open"--Black Moon (NER-20083) This marks the third single off Black Moon's impressive debut LP, "Enta Da Stage." Basically, if you worked "Who Got The Props" and "How Many Emcees..." than there should be no reason NOT to work this jazzy hip-hop track. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mango Records / Island Records: "Agolo"--Angelique Kidjo (PR12 861-1) Skip the downtempo remixes on side B and go straight for the two MK dubs on side A. Definitely the most impressive dubs since the Nightcrawlers (1992). These tracks show MK's harder, progressive side with keyboards that differ from his usual organ fare. As usual, the vocal samples are truncated in such a way as to make a psuedo-vocal hook, what sounds like "You get I-A ahhh, you get Ahh Haaa......" Impossible to describe but easy to program. Pick it up. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cutting Records: "El Trago (The Drink)"--2 In A Room meets the Wepa Man (CR-297) Incorrectly listed as a Two Without Hats record for the past three weeks, (in the acetate of the month section) the identity of this amazing record is now known. That's right, it's the new 2 In A Room. Using Try Yazz-ish sounding keyboards and chants, this record is already being worked on NYC's HOT 97 prior to retail pressing. Copies should be available this week so don't be the last to jump on this soon to be huge club AND radio hit. "I Believe"--Overload (CR-294) This Lenny Fontana / Mike Paternostro produced track uses a hard kick drum and a repetitive male vocal to work the floors. The bassline runs throughout the track, giving solid support to the minimalistic keyboards. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- six6 Records: (Import) "Bells of NY / I Feel High"--Slo Moshun (sixTR108) The Xen Mantra remix of "Bells..." kicks in typical hard house fashion, with old school styled keyboards and then breaks down to a 100 BPM Public Enemy styled hip-hop jam complete with the keyboards also slowed down to that tempo. "I Feel So High" uses a Todd Terry type beat and then smacks into some hard freestyle beats (remember House Without A Home's "A Touch of Freestyle"???). For those of us weaned on the Freestyle sounds of the 80's, this is a great track to recall just how powerful that 808 kick and snare can be. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Smash Records: "E"--LaTour (162-440-813) Intense Tribal / Trance moving along at 132 BPM. Progressive keyboards work their way into the mix about 3/4 of the way through combining with the droning backround 303 acid to make this a good record for techno and house DJs alike. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Adrenalin / Mic Mac Records: "Life Or Death"--Sanitarium (ADR-210) The two tracks on this 12" represent the extremes of their respective styles. "Darkness" hits at about 260 BPM and uses a classic rave sounding synth to reinforce the relentlessly pounding percussion track (anything is relentless at 260 BPM). Only for the heastrong!!!! "Come With Me" works a deeeep trance groove, once again, with emphasis on the percussion. Dreamy keyboards wafte throughout the mix. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following reviews are from DJ Friendly STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Get Up and Dance / Jungle Bass"--4 Dolo (SR-12209) "Get Up.." is a smoove, smoove NY rhythm track! Just a spoken sample and a fat bassline, with lots of nice scat singing over the top. Same sample as from Lectroluv's "Got it Goin On", as far as I can tell. Not so sure about "Jungle..", but as the name implies, it has a bassline that will KICK it on a good system. VIBE RECORDS: "Underground Vibe Sessions II" (Vibe 16) After Vol. I, I knew what to expect from this new release--some really strange tracks and a lot of blatant samples to give you a good chuckle. And it delivers! In the first cut, "Mad Factory," I picked out The Factory, The Program, Supermodel, Tribal Tone and Give it Up, plus a couple I couldn't figure out. But don't get the wrong idea, this IS NOT a megamix. Somehow these guys can take all that and make a viable record out of it. Best cut is "Da Da Ryhthm," one of the coolest tribal songs ever on wax. EMOTIVE RECORDS: "What is House Muzik? / Touch Me Right"--Phuture Scope (EM 747-1) Quite possibly Pierre's best record in a long time! Definitely as good as Atom Bomb and much better than the last Phuture Scope release, Plastic. Classic Pierre style, with nice subtle acid lines and samples. "What is.." is heavier, with a sample reminiscent LFO's "Intro", while "Touch.." uses soulful female vocals. This record will bring a good crowd to a "Wild Pitch", guaranteed (pun intended). Get it fast, 'cause it's on a limited edition clear vinyl release. NERVOUS RECORDS: "War Drums / Wonderful"--DJ Pierre pres. Shockwave Encore (NER-20078) The sides of this, following the current trend, are not numbered. They are instead named "Many Copiers Side" and "Only one Pierre Side." Sooo true! The truly bizarre vocal samples make it unlikely that it will find it's way into too many house sets, but the music is really great. It's surprising that this is on Nervous rather than their new "Sorted" label, because the samples make this record pretty hard core (not hardcore). Should go down well in a hard trance or acid set, so if that's your tip, check it out. COLUMBIA RECORDS: "Do Ya"--Inner City (44X 77401) Originally on KMS's Network label, Columbia made the smart move of licensing this for domestic release. I haven't seen the original, so I don't know if the mixes are different or not. The main offering is the Uplifting Mix by Master Reese. The rest of the all-star lineup is Sure is Pure, Graeme Park, Claude Young, Carl Craig, Chez D Trent, and The Commission. If you gather that this record is pretty English in flavor, you're right. The choice of mixes makes for a great variety, and I think there's something in this double pack for just about any house DJ. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- New "Your Beat" Arrivals: "Stop Using People"--South Street Player; Strictly Rhythm (SR-12235) "Blues For You"--Logic; Strictly Rhythm (SR-12232) "Bounce"--The Movement; Sunshine Records (SUN 12821) "Do The Booty Hop"--95 South; Wrap/Ichiban Records (PO-210) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: bdavis@netcom.com Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com The Remix Warehouse: ShawnM7768@aol.com Your Beat Records: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ THE YOUR BEAT RECORDS TOP 12 12"S 3/14/94 1. 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If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu "Finger" me to find out how to subcribe to the YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 01:20:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403112308.SAA03901@umd5.umd.edu> mary kathryn brings up the point of lack of female djs/promoters \ I feel the lack of women djs itself causes a lot of this trend because their is a lack of role models to motivate other women to do this... It is very rarily sexist presumptions and attitudes that keep women from djing the good djs get work, the poor djs don't and get very little help from others wether they are male or female... this is not a well endowed scene excuse the pun... jackie christie from nyc has complained that she occasionally doesn't get jobs because she "out spinns the boys" in the clubs but I haven't seen anyone feel threatened by her, club politics are very hard and it probably more to do with who she knows and vouches for her because the clubs are not a meritocracy. anyways that's the clubs not the raves as far as real raves I have seen her stop persuing and promoting herself for them and I think that is the prime reason she doesn't spin at them anymore. it is great that the women djs who do spin usually hold their own because i would think it more sexist if women djs were given jobs as a token. djing is a difficult expensive task that holds little reward besides self-fullfillment ocassionally, i think i haven't met too many rave women/ girls express a desire to spin... too bad too .... girls you gotta wanna do it and if you wanna then do it! paul paul as for promotion i'll comment on another date my views are espressedly different. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 22:41:08 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: Re[2]: women Another part of the problem may be upstream: Long before people become ravers, girls tend to have laready have been discouraged from doing things with lots of plugs and wires and "tech" and "science" and electronics, etc. Neil ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 01:54:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: df. "acid test" In-Reply-To: <199403140554.AAA20932@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Around 1965-66, over about 15 months, there was a loose series of parties, > mostly in and around San Francisco, billed as "Acid Tests", which featured > plastic garbage cans full of LSD Kool-Aid. > This was exactly the time when acid was becoming better and better known; > scienteist & intellectuals had been working with it for over a decade, but > general civilian knowledge was just really taking off. > One of the best descriptions I've heard of the atmosphere (all the dancing > and music and games and raps and body and wall and floor painting you imagine, > too) is, "Imagine hundreds of people and none of them is afraid." > > There's a book which has become sort of canonical, despite its basic > flaws and distortions, Tom Wolfe's _Electric_KoolDia_Acid_Test_. > > So, Darshan and Stefan, you've already answered some of my questions; you > sound like you've never heard of anything remotely resembling the atmosphere > of a good rave happening before. > I can't necessarily chat every single day, but I'm interested in following > this thread to see the places it will lead. > > Anyone else have anything to say/ask/tell/whatever? > > Neil > NeilRest@ecotone.toad.com > acid taking in the sixties definetely made its mark in history and influenced both seventies dance parties the eighties underground dance and indie-dance scene and of course ACID HOUSE parties of the late eighties and '90 - '91 but while the rave scene consumes its fair share of acid and also very importantly extasy MSMD their has become a lot of culture around the rave which is not drug related and the emphasis is not on the drug experience but the music and personal experience and i'd go into detail but another characteristic of our generation is we are generally harried and time is scarce mostly because we have to develop our own resources since the last generation has made it difficult and expensive to use the resources they have... with a lot more work this kind of scene will give our generation the optimism it needs to make sure the axiom of us being the first generation that will have less than their parents did untrue and for us to be a generation which fights against all abstracted odds and takes advantage of the tools which we have to reach out to the greater world community, ecosystem and all, and makes it very simply a better place.... with more enjoyment and less pain. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 02:01:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jennifer Young Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jennifer Young Subject: Re: Fantasy Project In-Reply-To: <9403080105.AA112280@acs.bu.edu>; from "Wei-En Chang" at Mar 7, 94 8:01 pm kind of a dum question...but who do ya know in providence? respond if ya feel like it...if not, no big deal....jenberry@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 02:02:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <9403140641.AA24563@ ecotone.toad.com> On Sun, 13 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Another part of the problem may be upstream: Long before people become > ravers, girls tend to have laready have been discouraged from doing things > with lots of plugs and wires and "tech" and "science" and electronics, etc. > > Neil > this was precisely the point .... the rave scene is not inherintly sexist but we have inherited a society damaged by sexism ... i don't feel that blame is very productive so it is only a point to understand the problem ... i think it is up to everyone to help motivate women to take on challenges they might not have considered and up to everyone to help motivate men not to make the learned actions which they often may not realize discourage women from participating in previously male dominated fields but at no time should women be given jobs because of their gender because it would be equally demeaning. I've been encouraged that the sex issue has been discussed in an atmosphere that enocourages problem solving and discussion rather than antagonism i hope to see that elsewhere too but rarely do... Remember: Stop fixing the blame... FIX THE PROBLEM ok its cheesy and a quote from my father but until i can think of a better way to express it that is uptodate and in my voice that is the way i say it. paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Mar 1994 23:02:17 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: df. "acid test" Paul J Gaydos writes : > . . . while the rave scene consumes its fair share of acid and also > very importantly extasy MSMD their has become a lot of culture > around the rave which is not drug related and the emphasis is not > on the drug experience but the music and personal experience . . . > . . . time is scarce mostly because we have to develop our own resources . . . > . . . with a lot more work this kind of scene will give our generation > the optimism it needs . . . for us to be a generation which fights against all > abstracted odds and takes advantage of the tools which we have to reach > out to the greater world community, ecosystem and all, and makes it very > simply a better place.... with more enjoyment and less pain. Yup, sounds just like an acid test. Go for it! Neil ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 03:09:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: df. "acid test" In-Reply-To: <199403140705.CAA23015@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Yup, sounds just like an acid test. > > Go for it! > Neil well thanks for the support but it's not "just like an acid test" it resembles it only in its hope and the fact that acid is present... I wouldn't say dominant. it usually isn't even organized. it is just there, part of the culture as much as marijuana, cigarettes, or ritlin and prozac for that matter. taking drugs to get high is just that taking drugs to get high and we like to do it. I would invite a further examination of our culture (and this isn't tnecessarily the right place to do it) so you can see firsthand the differences also. this is not a case of same culture different generation. we lend a fair applause at our forefathers and also some hard criticism and it is much more fair for you to look until you see some of the outstanding developments that originate or have been redeveloped with the impression of our generation before you make comments that make you sound like you are saying "yup they're doing it like we did". please don't take these criticisms as anything but what they are and understand that I personally invite you as I'm sure most everyone would to take part in our party. I hope you enjoy yourself. paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 03:12:11 -0500 Reply-To: Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Fantasy Project In-Reply-To: <199403140701.CAA22511@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Mar 1994, Jennifer Young wrote: > kind of a dum question...but who do ya know in providence? > respond if ya feel like it...if not, no big deal....jenberry@acs.bu.edu > what is this in response to? who is this question directed too? what kind of answer are you looking for? I live in Providence and have for about 6 weeks, but I really don't have time to list everyone I know here and what I know about what is going on... can you be more specific? fun love respect (<-my favorites) your faithful boy paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 07:27:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Mills Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Mills Subject: a ride (our neighbor) All --- I am travelling to Spiritual Movement III from State College, PA. If anyone needs a ride, lemme know. Send direct email, please. --- nodog@sabine.psu.edu PS Baltimore(?) the 19th(?) yesh ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 08:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: SPRING BREAK!!!!! In-Reply-To: <199403111513.KAA11577@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 11 Mar 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > while i'm on the topic, why doesn't everyone else send a description of > what they look like???? > hmm Okay, okay, kudos to Robins52 for the idea. A time who's idea has come, or something like that. I am about 6'3", have long brown hair (usually ends up in soft curls) and wear my face with a goatee and general need for a shave (egads, I hate shaving). I can't really describe my clothes as I tend to change them quite often you will generally see me walking around with a small brown leather backpack with a baseball cap on the strap (unless I am wearing it on my head). The baseball cap has a nice big sunflower that most people will mistake for either a sun or an eye (might change depending on your particular chemical entertainment). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 08:59:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Concept time.. Hey, how many of you promoters would be interested in an all promoters list? I am thinking there might be alot for people to talk about, a place to exchange ideas, tips and tricks on getting your warehouse space, how to set up, managment of raves, labor saving tricks, that sort of stuff. So, anyone interested in it? Might want to reply directly to me. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 10:45:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM ONE Hey ya'll :) Well, here's the first HOM of the week, sorry if there are any mistakes, but just mail me privatly and I'll change it :) Melzie aka in love with her Gumdrop **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** mail melzie@wam.umd.edu for changes and/or additions ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 19 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT III Baltimore, MD ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy Mills aka Nodog [OFFER RIDE FROM STATE COLLEGE PA] nodog@sabine.arl.psu.edu Rob Campnell [NEEDS RIDE - DC] robcamp@seas.gwu.edu Day Tripper [NEEDS RIDE - DC] dtripper@access.digex.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 26 RED Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seuss [NEED RIDE-NY] petelis@eerie.acsu.cc.buffalo.edu Casper jcarow@MIT.EDU Michelle [and friends] [NEEDS RIDE-MA or NYC] mstaudinger@lucy.wellesley.edu Jason Bilsky [OFFER SPACE] fuzzbox@world.std.com drelb@aol.com Jmc [CRASH SPACE FOR 5] jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com John Goldman [NEEDS RIDE TO-FROM AIRPORT TO SPACE] jgoldman@TMN.COM Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Sprokett [OFFER CRASH SPACE-2] kumquat@acs.bu.edu Hwyman [most amazing person :)] hwyman@wam.umd.edu John aka DJ Entox djentox@aol.com Neith! [TAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRE-PARTY] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 9 PLEASURE DOME Washington, DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [OFFER SPACE] RC3116A@american.edu Mike aka nosferatu/mikey ms5414@ark.ship.edu Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP-PA SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Maclean [NEEDS RIDE] Matt Jone [NEEDS RIDE-CP] mmj@wam.umd.edu Derek Tiffany [spinnin :) ] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jason aka Method 1 [performin :) ] lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- May PERPETUAL MOTION NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jenn-bug [SMART BAR] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 11:11:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Sprockett on M.I. & F.G. WOW!!!!1 whatta weekend! im not gonna talk about my travels or who i saw when..... but id like to talk specifically about the parties: 1st, MINOR INFRACTION!!!!!!! Jetta! I LOVE YOU! Thank you thank you thank you. this overall was the most vibey, plurey, flurey, most attitude-less party i have EVER been to. The space was amazing: 3 floors, with couches everywhere and you could be on the 3rd floor and look straigt down at the crowd. this event held true to our rave "ideals". yes, it WAS small, no, we didn't have lasers of computer visuals, and no, we didn't have dj's that thousands of people have heard of.......but what we DID have was a GOOD TIME! A LOT od boston ravers are BIG ATTITUDE AS*HOLES....i saw a few of them there. that at first made me kinda kweezy: thought they'd bring the party down, but eventually through work and affection (both as a dj and a pixy-stik-donor) I was able to elicit a smile and genuine enjoyment of the party....cool i though NOW they really KNOW what a really excellent vibe is....boston is starving for them.....and the sound: YAY! with 1000w the floor was LOUD! man it was Grrrreat loud enuf and not too loud........people would just talk to you: didn't matter if you knew them or not........talk about an "old-school" party with new muzik! i remember at the end of the night this girl walking by me saying: "shit, shit shit, shit, shit, shit, SHIT........DONATO!!!!!! shit, shit...." you all get the idea.....i couldn't fathom what was wrong and wondered what could be done....so, i looked at her and simply asked if she would like a pixy stik or 4 she said (with a kwizzikal expression on her face) "ye......ah??????". then she smiled.......i saw her later and she was still smiling!!!! YAY! Minor infraction was a party in the purest and truest sense of the word "RAVE" we even kept the vibe after the cop (and that god-awful cleaning lady who wanted us "OUTTA" there ;) thank you jetta...and ALL who helped and came! This renewed my confidence in the scene: our reasons for being in it, and people in general......thank you. 2nd: Future groove With all respects to you, spam, for the work you put into this, and the inten- tions you had, i must say eek. Personally this was the most up&down party i've EVER been to......i went there, after not letting myself get siked up about this mebbe being my "big break" as a dj......but when i got to the doors and saw that it was a kewl space i couldnt help but let go and get excited! personally i didnt have a problem a the door...just insisted on what i had been told, and was let in with my guests accordingly: the guards were *really* nice to me. But then i was directed to the "new talent room" immediately my vibe WHICH i KNOW is 99% in your own head, went down....i mean: a SIGN saying "new talent"...im not "new talent"...nor were many of the other 2nd room dj's... a lot of us have been doing this for a LONG time......whatever...just wanted to say that......then i saw the room: smaller than my dorm room at Boston U.!! i felt my heart drop and i nearly cried.....mebbe i shouldnt have gotten my hopes up, but i just assumed the space would be decent: never even entered my mind that the size would be a problem: twice the size of the "new talent" room would even have been small to use. then add the fact that the guys bathroom door was in the room, with the speakers and dj table, and the effective dancing area was reduced to about 8 feet by 17feet: i didnt know how to respond. next i found out that there was no schedule: the guy from big dipper said the new talent room would not have a schedule: that it was a walk up and spin freeforal kinda thing.......man, at that point i didnt even want to spin. Spam, you had a wonderful concept, and i, like wille, applaud your idea. but to be honest the execution was almost insulting.....i mean this not as an insult! Just understand this from OUR point of view and you will see how it was from the "new talent" dj and attendee side of the fence. Still, thank you for the faith you showed and the chance you gave us all. I *SINCERELY* appreciate it! anyway: once i got my time set i was able to get my vibe up and go dance.... with the biggest smile and most whistle blowing in a long time!!!!!!it seems that no matter how bad the outside vibe or crowd is, if you have a few people (like the ne-ravers) to dance and socialize with, you can make an awesome vibe for yourself! so i did. anyway: when time came for me to spin,i moved my crate to the dj table and found the forementioned owner-of-the-1200's taking the 12's over: "WHAT!" how could this happen...hurt and walking away with my table in between my legs i went to find spam....eventually the thigy was solved, but my vibe and consciousness had been shattered: and worried that the posse that had congre- gated for hip hop and scratching would start a fight when i didn't scratch, etc i started off with a trance track with no beats.....tried to clear them out of the room...whatever! to anyone who heard my set, i apologise: i tried to do well, just found that i couldn't do it....i couldnt lock my mixes.....sorry. if you heard me the night before though, you know what im capable of. again, apologies, but thank you for all the hugs and pats on the back. i also saw what happened to willE and Cmellow: made me sick......how about a security guard in the "new talent" room at all times: or didn't we "need" one......a sore spot there....what happened was completely *unacceptable* respects to chris for keeping the vibe despite that jerk......ripping the mixer off the table while you were spinning: or at *any* time for that matter! where was the guard! btw: a guard did not take him away: it was just some big raver dude... the guards were nowhere to be found...... :( if im bitching too much then understand its because i expected a *lot* more than i found. at least i did realize that vibe really is in your head....if you saw me once the sun was up: then you know i learned it. who was that dj: he had dreads and played some jazzy stuff!!?? anyone know? he was amazing: mixed the sh*t up......WOW! so, to all that i met and saw, thanks for your love and energy...it was so nice to put faces with type......and to spam: again: thanks for your faith and effort....just 1 ?: what happened to the timeslot list for the "new talent" room.....cuz it was difficult to get that tape off to you.... a wierd weekend for me: the best night ever on friday, and my worst on saturday id've quit dj'ing as of saturday night, if it hadn't have been for jetta's party. peace fun love unity respect to all!!!!! i love you ;) Sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:18:42 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: planet-e #1 amiga ver. To the people who has an amiga... Planet-e #1 rave mag amiga ver. is (finally!) out. You can find it on aminet (but i dunno where) BUT you can find it also on techno.stanford.edu:pub/raves/media/zines/planet.e file is called issue.01-amiga.lha l8er psyched - Planet-E >>> UnDeRGrOUnD!!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 12:24:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: hey all Hey all... Sorry I missed FGrooves and Jetta's minor infraction.... I was really really looking forward to both....but so problems came up so i had to go down to NC....... Today I'm tired and kinda burned out and going to go home and kick it (with my new sampler :) ...well newly used....via method1...)... But I'm REALLY looking forward to Red.........and seeing people I haven't seen in a while, and meeting new people... I am going to go crazy insane.... And I will have my knee brace....so beware..........:) -John (handi) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:57:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: my review of minor infraction Let me start off with the pre-gathering at my place. It was a nice small gathering, more of a social type of a thing. People got acquainted with each other, and I finally met some more mit ravers (of the few that exist). Anyway, Bruce, one of the new mit ravers I met, came up with this great idea of starting some kinda rave association here so we can throw some parties. So get ready for some raves, here at mit, in the near future. When I got to the party, there were a handful of people, couple dancing on the floor, and cmellow spinning his set. I went on after cmellow, and by this time there were more people on the dance floor. As a result of not having much sleep for the last two days, I was dead tired, but thanks to Sprockett's pixi stik, I got enough energy to get through my set. After my set I didn't want to do much more because I was so tired (so I appologize to anyone who didn't think I was too sociable. I'm not anyway). I danced only for about 15 minutes because I felt like I wuz gonna die, but the music was good throughout the night, and I would have been on the floor for the whole night if I had felt good. The vibe was amazing, and I wanted to the kill that cop that broke it all up for us. I think Oz did a great job in keeping the music going even after that asshole turned up the lights. At all parties that I've been to, when the lights go on, the music stops and everyone gets off the dance floor. Well, everyone kept on dancing and dancing and Oz kept on spinning and spinning with a big cop, who'd had one too many dounuts, looking over his shoulder. Well, I thank Vanessa and all others involved in putting this together, and I'm definitely looking forward to the next one. JimmY |-|/\T (condom/boston) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:34:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!... Hi, Leslie and I are pleased to announce the delivery of our little girl. She was born on tues, mar 8, at 2:50pm after nearly six days of induction at Beth Israel Hospital. Fortunately, active labor was only about 4 hours. After so much time at the hospital and with the docs, residents and nurses, I think the hospital should be renamed Club Beth! Everyone was incredible, and Leslie and I were pleased that her primary obstetrician, Dr. Lenore Soodak, was on call for our delivery. Adina Hero weighed 7 lbs. 8 oz and was 19" long. Now she has red hair and blue eyes. We have been home since Wednesday evening, and Leslie and Adina are at home now enjoying their time together! We are ecstatic! Brendan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:40:37 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Citizen Kane Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Citizen Kane Subject: Lame micro rave in portland Here is how lame it was: A. the cost - $6 with flyer $8 without. Plus this was NOT mentioned on the info line. B. Lights- oh yeh raves are supposed to have lights. this one did - 2 colored floods, and around 12:30some silly attempt at addition. C. The roof was leaking, and the ground was very wet because of all the traffic D. The sound system dies, and needed to be replaced earlt on as well. E. There were a plethora of littel kids there - mom must have been away. F. THe music was ok - especially that done by a girl DJ - good job. G. Larry is getting better- Thats it. /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ \ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land / /IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine Use OS/2, it'll change your life\ \ If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? / /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:41:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!... ps--Adina Hero was born on International Women's Day and one of her godfathers is one of Brandeis University's first Women's Studies graduates! :) Brendan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:13:55 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: df. "acid test" >So, Darshan and Stefan, you've already answered some of my questions; you >sound like you've never heard of anything remotely resembling the atmosphere >of a good rave happening before. >I can't necessarily chat every single day, but I'm interested in following >this thread to see the places it will lead. Neil, You're right - I've never had that type of experience (acid test) at a rave before, but I have shared those types of things with a few close friends of mine. Raves in their current incarnation seem almost too 'organized' for an experience like the one you've described. I'd love to go to an event where they provide paint and things to do, and musical instruments, etc. That would be amazing, wouldn't it? Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 15:43:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: question for bostonians... what is your favorite clothing store in boston? please don't mention Allston Beat, something about that place bugs me... ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:07:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!... In-Reply-To: <199403141939.OAA19226@umd5.umd.edu> CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!! Wow. What an ordeal. That's terrific. Good luck! -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:24:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: df. "acid test" In-Reply-To: <199403142029.PAA21528@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Mar 1994, Darshan M. Jesrani wrote: > >So, Darshan and Stefan, you've already answered some of my questions; you > >sound like you've never heard of anything remotely resembling the atmosphere > >of a good rave happening before. > >I can't necessarily chat every single day, but I'm interested in following > >this thread to see the places it will lead. > > Neil, > > You're right - I've never had that type of experience (acid test) at a > rave before, but I have shared those types of things with a few close friends > of mine. Raves in their current incarnation seem almost too 'organized' for > an experience like the one you've described. I'd love to go to an event > where they provide paint and things to do, and musical instruments, etc. > That would be amazing, wouldn't it? > > Darshan > Raves are both a perfect environment for tripping and a not-so-good one, depending on how you look at it. Tripping at a rave is very different from tripping in the 'real world.' Raves are a controlled environment, and perfect (in my opinion) for a first-time trip. The atmosphere is very positive, with continual, upbeat music and neat lights and other things to look at. Everyone's nice (or at least not not-nice), and there's still a 'trippy' feel to the whole event in terms of what vendors (if they're there) sell, and the visual shows that are generally put on. Raves usually last 8-10 hours, and the security is very unobtrusive (which lends to a non-paranoid experience). If you're only into the psychadelic experience for recreation, I reccomend raves heartily. My opinion of the 'down-side' of tripping at raves is mostly the same as its good points. Tripping indoors is, is general, less fun (there's also fewer visuals). At a rave, tripping becomes pretty much a solo experience, as the volume of the music makes extended conversation difficult. Also, you can't do _really_ wierd things at raves, as they are really a dance-oriented event. I've noticed that the trip experience is very much dampened at a rave. That is, tripping in the woods or some such is much more intense. Raves are, in my experience, kind of a group return-to-childhood (this is meant as a very positive statement), and tripping there is kind of like going to a Psychadelic-Disneyworld. I would also like to see a broadening of 'what's available' to do at raves. Dancing would, of course, remain the primary focus of the event, but I'd like to see more of other things too, like artists doing their thing (possibly interactively with the other ravers), maybe underground artists displaying their stuff-- anything neat and creative. Above all, the ravers should be involved, hands-on. I don't want to see a bunch of people sitting around watching someone do something, that's not what raves are about. It would be kind of neat if a raver went home with a picture that thay helped create (or did create). This could get to be kind of like the concert poster thing in the '60s. Anyway, I've talked enough. Lemme know what you think. -Sean (Abstract) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:27:21 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Rites of Spring..Albany NY there will be a rave coming up in the albany area sure to be a vibey event! Heres the info... RITES OF SPRING (Vernal Equinox 2, pre-RED party) March 25th, 1994 Starts at Midnight til 6am Two Dance Floors!! DJ'S: DISCOVERY MARK SWAMI SPROCKETT KLOKWERK STINGRAY MEDICINE MAN BILL KRAMER SPACE more DJ's to be announced. 17+ with id Bowling and breakfast will be available. $8.00 admission, $2.00 off with a RED ticket. $35.00 Bus and Ticket to RED..available... RSVP ASAP... to:BIG DIPPER 518/465-6381 Rites of Spring Info line: 518/432-4784 This event is put on by SPACE Productions and the MISSION Crew. There will be plenty of crash space for those who wish to make a weekend of this and RED there will be a bus from Albany to RED and back of course... any one need of crash space please e-mail me at yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu and soon if u can so we can organize it well as I said before this is sure to be a vibey event and all who can make it are encouraged to come we love to have people with the PLUR vibe in Albany and always strive to have PHAT parties for one and all! see yah soon :) ;). CAT ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:35:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Shtuff.. (fwd) Here's a forward from John Goldman, formerly of MUSE productions here in DC, now heading up a new posse. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 14 Mar 94 13:05:59 EST From: John Goldman To: anarchy@glue.umd.edu Subject: Shtuff.. April 2nd.... John and Mike present PURE UNDERGROUND An outdoor outlaw party for DC Dj's include Suzy Cyclone Ivan G. of PHAT Bleu from NC...Fever Comp Finalist MkW of MUSE Jester of the VAULT Rob Gardner Under a bridge in DC......call 703 213 1751 for info.... ....oh BTW we are asking for a 3 buck donation to cover costs....(flyers and Uhaul and generator) Welp thats it..... See you at Spiritual Movement? Peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:38:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: techno schism (fwd) I got this from Barbara off the Vraves list and thinnk it is definately of general interest. I am going to put it up on techno I think. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 94 23:30:49 EST From: barbara wieland To: v-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: techno schism hi kids. this was in the atlanta journal-constitution today (and some will persist in saying that it's not a quality paper :) ) TECHNO SCHISM PITS HARD-CORE, PROGRESSIVE RAVERS ------------------------------------------------ By Simon Reynolds New York Times Only a few years ago, it was easy to define techno as fast-paced dance music based on electronic textures. it was easy to say where one would hear techno: at raves, where the music combined with psychadelic lights and strobes to induce teh ultimate trance-dance experience. but today, techno means atmostphereic chill-out music designed for home listening as often as it does party music. there are even techno clubs where people sip tea rather than take ecstasy, a psychadelic drug, and lull about on mattresses rather than leaping about on the dance floor. rave music has spread from britain and europe-- where it is still the dominant strand of pop culture-- to japan, australia, and america, albeit as an underground phenomenon. yet when a pop movement reaches such global proportions, it tends to split apart. just as is happening in rap, techno is splintering into a profusion of subgenres. but if there's a basic schism, it's between 'progressives' who want techno to evolve from a style geared to 12-inch singles into an album-based art from and 'hard-core' fundamentalists who admire the musics' oriin as the soundtrack to nonstop ecstatic dancing. when rave culture first exploded in late '80s britain, it was celebrated as the heir to the spirit of the hippies' summer of love in 1967. subsequently, rave music's evolution has paralleled what happened to late '60s acid rock when it split into progressive rock and heavy metal. on one sice, there's self-proclaimed 'progressive' music for contemplative listening. its lofty, pseudo-spiritual aura appeal to an audience that likes to imagine itself more discerning than mere pop fans. on the other side there's music that offers a clamorous accompaniment to rowdy communal carharsis. the parallel fits because partisans of progressive techno often dismiss hard-core as 'the new heavy metal,' arguing that it's monotonous and too fast for dancing. hard-core fans, in turn, sneer at the progressives as wimps, lightweights, arty poseurs who've forgotten what rave culture is all about-- having fun, 'going mental.' sso while hard-core's tempos get faster and faster-- currently the range is from 150 beats per minute to an insane 200- the progressive factionhas reacted by slowing down the music and, at the extreme, dispensing witha beat altogether. like the progressive-rock pioneers pink floyd and tangerine dream, these bands combine celestial synthesizer textures with cosmic imagery, as in song titles like 'paradox of tiem dilation' and 'chromosphere.' but where '70s progressive rock tended to baroque ornamentation and complicated structures, progressive techno is minimalist. at its best this approach yields a band like orbital, which weaves simple motifs into a billowing, bittersweet tapestry of sound. the enmity between progressive techno and hard-core is partly class-based-- fans of the former tend to be middle class, whild hard-core is favored by working class young people who live for the weekend. there is also a generation gap within rave culture. as ravers get older, they go clubbing less frequently and look to music that makes sense at home. this post-rave music has been dubbed many things-- the new electronica, inteligent techno, electronic listening music. but the term that's most widespread is ambient techno, derived from the producer brian eno's term for environmental music, a sort of aural decor that provides a backdrop for daily life. initially popular as music for ravers coming down after a night's mayhem, ambient has become a booming album-based genre, appealing both to burned-out ravers and to people who never really cared for dance music in the first place. much of the ambient genre is bland moo-muzak as lazy in its construction as its consumers tend to be stoned and supine. but artists like the irresistable force, pete namlook, sandoz, reload and mu-ziq have made ambient albums that reward concentrated listening. if there's one who become the figurehead of techno's maturation into electronic composition, though, it's richard james, 22, originally from the remote british coastal region of cornwall. in the last two years, he's released a torrent of eps and lps, under a host of pseudonyms, including aphex twin, polygon window, afx, caustic window, and bluecalx. his most highly regarded and sheerly beautiful album so far, aphex twin's 'selected ambient works 1985-92' saw him acclaimed as the successor to kraftwerk and eno. now james has signed a long-term deal with the american label sire, whick will realease 'selected ambient works vol. 2' next month. james has opened up a new frontier for techno. at times, he's making what sounds like classsical music for the next millennium. for the hard-core fans, techno is primarily physical music, designed to keep the body moving and to enhance the effects of ecstasy, which became popular in the 1980s. confusingly, 'hard-core' means different things in different countries. right now, european and american dance floors are dominated by trance, which combines harsh, all-electronic textures and programmed drum-machine beats. fast-paced, mantra-like and minimalist, trance can be exhilarating in a coldly compulsive sort of way, but it is often rather uniform and soul-less. britain has its own hard-core scene, but there the dominant style s called 'jungle.' jungle draws from hip-hop and reggae. the struggle between prgressive and hard-core techno is a bitter contest to decide who owns rave culture and what direction it should pursue. the most interesting music is being generated at the extremes of the rave scene, whether it's ambient techno's beat-free atmostpherics or the body-coercing intensity of hard-core. it's the middle zone that's least exciting, with its middlebrow quasi-spiritual pretensions, tepid beats and predictable electronic textures. ----------------------------------------------- hm. so who died and made this the techno god. a HUGE article like this and no one's opinion but his own--- not what they taught *me* to do in journalism school. :) and hell, no breaks? ;) --barbara ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:43:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , yochai weiss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: yochai weiss Subject: Re: df. "acid test" In-Reply-To: <199403142125.QAA24145@umd5.umd.edu>; from "sean kelly `94" at Mar 14, 94 4:24 pm in response to the ideas for future raves bring instruments and creativity to BIRTH June 25th. This will be the first tribal rave. And when we say tribal we mean all of us contributing to our scene! BIRTH is on the rave calendar but if u want info call 518/43-BIRTH. CAT ;) ------------------- End of network mail ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 13:49:55 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jamie Lawrence Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jamie Lawrence Subject: Ignore if you are not Matt Laszuk Sorry to bomb the list like this... I just can't get through to someone on this list. Matt- I have tried repeatedly to write you... A couple bounced and some (I guess) just vanished. I got one note from you yelling at me for not writing back... Er... if you get this, gimme a call at (415) 641-5874, or try writing again. Or something. If the Brown server lets you, try routing through somewhere else. Again... sorry everyone. Jamie -- "If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people. I'm serious. Let, let, let the unskilled jobs, let them, let, let, let, the, the, the kinds of jobs that, that, that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do. Let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work." -- Rush Limbaugh (demonstrating his brilliance and skill) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 16:55:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: question for bostonians... ------------------------------------------------- what is your favorite clothing store in boston? please don't mention Allston Beat, something about that place bugs me... ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| -------------------------------------------------------- I think mail order is the way to go. That way you don't have to leave your house. If you MUST go clothes shopping, the Salvation Army store on Memorial Drive in Cambridge is rad, and so's AmVets in Allston. If I ever want to get new stuff it's usually the Urban Outfitters Basement, Placid Planet or Devious Mind. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:08:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: Oops & SLIPs In-Reply-To: <9403061815.AA15315@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Phil Z" at Mar 6, 94 1:15 pm > > For those who haven't been to the techno site via WWW/Mosaic, it's really > an impressive resource- Brian's done a beautiful job, It's kinda What is WWW/Mosaic.......just wondering....just naive! NEd!(Snappleboy!) luv u all! > > Phil Z > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:23:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kenny Eng Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kenny Eng Subject: Re: TIMEWARP 2+3 OFFICIAL LINE-UP!!! In-Reply-To: <199403140037.TAA06643@umd5.umd.edu> hi, send me info on the allentown scene!!! kenny eng box 4093 5115 margaret morrison pittsburgh, pa 15213 thanks. later ken ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:38:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403140702.CAA22836@umd5.umd.edu> Well, being a female that is tring to do something in the scene (ie promo, magazine, tend bar) I seem to come in contact first hand with sexism in the scene all the time. Sadly enough some of the time males do not even know when they are acting in a sexist fashion! I could give you numberous examples of how I was personally treated with less respect for trying to do something "that is a males job" or getting special treatment for all the wrong reasons ....for being female and nothing else... While doing the smart bar it is safe to say that no one would question this being a "good job for a female" due to this being a job a majority of the time done by females...but with the magazine and promoting getting the same sort of respect is sometimes a completely different story. If someone would tell you that sexism does not exist in the rave scene they are sadly mistaken. I feel that many people are trying to help this issue and to hopefully solve this problem...don't get me wrong...but unfortunatly there are many males that I have come in contact with, that hold respected postions in the rave scene, treate me and other females with little or no respect solely because of the fact that we are female. As for female djs..any female that is trying to get respect in this male dominated profession good luck...but we can definately do anything that we put our minds to! Being female does have one great advantage...it has taught us how to work twice as hard to achieve something that a male might achieve a hell of a lot easier..this making us more able to achieve to the next level. So to any females out there that feel that they could never do anything in any scene, get real! We can do anything that we put our minds to...and hopefully in doing this improve the future and improve the misconceptions on what is and what is not a female and a male role. Feels good to get that out of my system :) (and I thought that this was going to be a short post) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:04:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Flip side of Red tickets After looking at the flip side of the Red ticket, this is what I found: "Ticket not valid unless the following information is filled out completely. Thanks." Next, there is a space for your name, address, phone, favorite party and favorite DJ. I assume this info will get you on the Primary Productions' mailing list, though I do find it a bit strange. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 17:50:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!... In-Reply-To: <199403141939.OAA19226@umd5.umd.edu> Brendan writes... >DATE: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:34:36 -0500 >FROM: brendan mcdougall > >Hi, > >Leslie and I are pleased to announce the delivery of our little girl. >She was born on tues, mar 8, at 2:50pm after nearly six days of >induction at Beth Israel Hospital. Fortunately, active labor was >only about 4 hours. [rest of parental bliss omitted] So are you going to bring her to Red? (insert evil grin) Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:04:12 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: Oops & SLIPs In-Reply-To: <9403142207.AA18347@helios.tn.cornell.edu>; from "unknown" at Mar 14, 94 5:08 pm > > > > > For those who haven't been to the techno site via WWW/Mosaic, it's really > > an impressive resource- Brian's done a beautiful job, It's kinda > > What is WWW/Mosaic.......just wondering....just naive! > > NEd!(Snappleboy!) > > luv u all! > if you're on an X-station, try typing `xmosaic', that's a pretty standard distributed package. if you have it, just guide yourself towards the west coast (Stanford gopher, or even Techno/Rave gopher is on there too). if you're not on an X-station, i have no idea....maybe try clenching your teeth as hard as you can, think of a giant cyber-web image, and hope for the best.... - a al ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 18:46:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: question for bostonians... I wa s just in Boston for the first time over spring break. I regretfully must say that the best place is Urban Outfitters. Unfortunately this is a wallet denting experience created for every wannabe who can afford the look. but if you got the bucks, I reccomend picking up a pair of Lucky Jeans. real big and real PHAT. Good Luck!, -dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:11:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: Re: question for bostonians... In-Reply-To: <9403142044.AA134127@moose.uvm.edu> dollar a pound by far!!!!! especially for those of us broke college students. > On Mon, 14 Mar 1994, Tai Nguyen wrote: > what is your favorite clothing store in boston? please don't mention > Allston Beat, something about that place bugs me... > ___ > (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) > |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| > |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| > |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) > |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| > |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| > |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| > (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 19:47:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!... In-Reply-To: <199403142317.SAA28722@umd5.umd.edu> YAY! Congratulations go out to Leslie, Brendan and (especially) Adina. That is a really beautiful name. Hmm, maybe we should all start work on a raving course of study at a university so we can have it ready in time for her. :) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:24:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: question for bostonians... In-Reply-To: <199403142156.QAA25387@umd5.umd.edu> from "Wei-En Chang" at Mar 14, 94 04:55:00 pm > > ------------------------------------------------- > > what is your favorite clothing store in boston? please don't mention > Allston Beat, something about that place bugs me... > -------------------------------------------------------- > > I think mail order is the way to go. That way you don't have to leave your > house. What are some addresses for some cool clothes via mail order?? This sounds cool to me since I am _WAY_ out here in good ole Ohio with hardly any cool places to shop at. (Besides my favorite Salvation Army, of course!) Thanks... Later -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 20:41:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Liza J. Weinstein" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Liza J. Weinstein" Please sub calender... sub discuss... for NE-Raves. Thank-you. From Lweinstei@Moose.UVM.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 22:12:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We have a woman!... In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 14 Mar 1994 14:34:36 -0500 from Congratulations!!!! and all the best to the three of you :) BeccaMD :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 22:19:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: Kick It How was Dale Charles? He's a great guy and spins super-cool music. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 22:27:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donald sparacin Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: donald sparacin Subject: Re: Rites of Spring..Albany NY In-Reply-To: <199403142128.QAA24304@umd5.umd.edu> from "yochai weiss" at Mar 14, 94 04:27:21 pm Yo what's up? I like the Plan, how much are the tickets 15? and the bus is 20? if this is true then I am down. If I head up to Albany then I can get the tickets there? Where exactly is the party going to be held at? PEACE, Thank you BROTHER KIND ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 23:08:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: !We have a girl!... Yay! Congrats!!!!!! Hmm.. do the make club wear in baby sizes? I can just envision her wearing an itty-bitty "Techno" shirt.. or even cooler.. an NE-Raves shirt!! I just love little kids! =) There'll have to be a special ne-badge for her! hee hee! I just get so giddy around babies.. How cool! Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 23:12:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Minor Infraction & Future Groove HAPPENING BIPEDS: Kudos 2 Jetta 4 Minor Infraction. I'm supprised everything went so well. When I first walked in Chris was spinning some funky house :) I wanted 2 dance, but I just couldn't do it in front of a fully lit cafeteria (it's not like it was the streets of Boston or anything ;) After hanging out and chatting and greeting people I retreated 2 the ambient chill out room where Roo was spinning CD's. He came all the way from Ohio (that's so beautiful ;) I kept popping up 2 check on the music upstairs, including John Adams' new band F(x). They sequenced samples off a 750M drive with a PowerBook :) It got darker and cozier as the dancefloor filled and the cafeteria closed. Donato was on, we had reached critical mass, the vibe was there, the house was jumpin, and 4 the first time in ages I started dancing before 1 AM! Then Oz hit the decks, phat trance, and what a mack! -- throwing down plates with a cop over his shoulder trying 2 read his records :) Everyone I encountered was very friendly :D Even the non-ravers, despite their curious stares, were all very nice :D As it ended too soon & rather abruptly -- we didn't have time 2 say our goodbyes, but besides that it was a great party. I salute the women of Wellesley! After staying over there, Fish and I took a 6+ hr traffic filled ride 2 his chill pre-party at the Lawn Giland Aquarium. In attendance were Chris Mellow, Jeannie, Pholida, Bill, Becca (MD), just plain Derek, Danarchy, Sprockett, Cat, Cat's friend Star, and Trevor. We ate pizza & some of us took naps. After everyone but Fish & I left, Joe Pitassi showed up :) After getting lost (the directions on the phone message treated left and right as being arbitrary ;), driving back 2 Port Jefferson 4 better 411 & then back out 2 find the party, showing up 2 too late (3 AM), being bedeviled by cops, searched by this rude gorilla, having the dweebs at the door yell at me "There is no fucking list!" over and over, having the wrong person take my ticket, etc., I was so uptight walking in U could've opened a Heineken with my butt! This party had the worst vibe I've ever felt :\ Even though I have often ranked on acid jazz, I was surprised that Sprockett played good eye-opening sets at both events :) Either every compilation I've ever heard really sucks, or he really doesn't spin acid jazz. Despite the considerable artistic talent of our net DJ's, Future Groove was the worst event I've ever been 2 :( :( :( I'm only glad I went because I got 2 be with some people I've missed, & meet some new faces 2 go with names I already had (including that one net raver we know I don't like ;) I think Chris/Spam did our tribe a disservice by promising us a reduced list and then not coming through. It's not the $ it's the principal. Further, our DJ's should have been treated with much more RESPECT. They should have been fully informed of the situation (including the pitiful size of the room) before they got there. Shame on U Spam. Massive shout 2 Fish, Jessica, Cat & Sprockett 4 making my weekend possible :D PEACE OUT :) MARK I LOVE U ALL!! (but please, stop posting private messages 2 the list :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Mar 1994 23:15:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@IUP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: Re: !We have a girl!... wow!! congrats!! --although i dont *know* you... its rad that there is a new addition to our little *family* ...and hopefully she will grow up to be a happy little raver like the rest of us... (just think... all them birthday *partys* you could have) :) good luck... :) michelle ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 12:18:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: gear up for grabs??? In-Reply-To: <199403111921.OAA23481@umd5.umd.edu> from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 11, 94 02:21:46 pm Dans la Matrice, ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU a dit: > > old keyboards had VCO and VCAs built in, > you had to patch them to get what to where, using 1/4 inch cables > i am making a random number generator, and using it in conjunction with > an oscillator and an amplifier Is it fully random? If yes, then i can say it will not produce very interesting results. If you have a PC, check out Improvise and Aleatoric, to name two shareware programs. Even with the rules to regulate randomness, it doesn't sound very cool (driving a MKS7 bass part which is sorta like a TB303 or for that fact, any of my analog synths or sampler). > after a bunch of attempts, sooner or later i will be able to have a > circuit randomly create acid music patterns in the background > i think that it would be sort of funky sounding. It would require much more work than you probably want to do... Even brownian movements are not applicable straight. Maybe aeolian scales progressions and things like that would do it... In any case, after a few months of research, i came to the conclusion that i should wait for somebody else to do a real sounding music generator. There is a commercial product for windows that will do it, but it wont be available for some time. > input? anyone? views? worth attempting? If you really want to do it, i'd suggest you do it MIDI. Compared to the whole project, adding MIDI is trivial and that way you'll stay in digital all the way. Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' IdMEDIA \ Managing: \ Publishing: \ Specialising: CP 312 \ Equation de Base \ Cybernaute \ Multimedia & Telecom St-Lambert, QC \ Francois Dion \ IDM Software \ design, publishing & Canada, J4P 3P8 \ Fuzzy Logic \ Raving Up North \ testing(hard/software) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 09:17:39 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: question for bostonians... I'm from NYC, and can say Boston is very cool. I think it's a matter of scale. Like people in Boston give your subway token before you give them the money? Is their acid in the water supply? Waiting for the apocalypse New Yorker. :-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: !We have a girl!... wow! A youngen......Congradulations and good luck. It's gonna be a lot of hard work but it's worth it. Just remember, you've just applied for the hardest job with the least experience. Peace, -Dave ps.- when she's ready to start snowboarding, E-mail me ...free lessons! :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:10:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: GeoffE from Sprockett In-Reply-To: <9403140043.AA77632@acs.bu.edu>; from "geoffE" at Mar 13, 94 7:20 pm Hey, just a line with a couple of ?'s GF> DJ's who sent tapes in, you are not forgotten, Sprockett, Will-E, GF> Method One(Jason) you will be contacted shortly as well as GF> others. Any GF> questions write or call me. curious to make sure: you got my tape this time, right? I assumed so from what you wrote above. Did you like it &/or find it acceptable for your place? I'd absolutely *love* to spin for ya.....just gotta work out when and how. also: GF> Anyone who wants press information on what the heck actually GF> happens down GF> here send me your postal mail address(snail mail) and I will GF> send GF> photocopies of what the space looks like, who is involved, GF> and why you too GF> can build a scene out in the middle of nowhere. i am totally interrested in this info: if you wouldn't mind making up a packett for me i'd appreciate it sooooooo much! trying to make a "scene" in upstate ny is difficult enough, mebbe your stuff could help. thanks for your time, my friend: sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 10:33:25 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: March Be-In's Psychic Sound Salon Musicians & Dancers Do Your Thing... Very Nice Large Loft Space Sundays 7-9PM March 13,20,27 $2 Contribution 380 Broadway Top Floor 2 Blocks South of Canal A Be-In Production... PLUR - - - - - ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 13:53:40 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: question for bostonians... In-Reply-To: <9403151808.AA00232@media.mit.edu>; from "Edward Potter" at Mar 15, 94 9:17 am i've never seen them give you a token before the money but they do pass out free dj mix tapes and cd's on saturdays. you just have to kjnow where to look handi ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:03:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: March Be-In's > > Psychic Sound Salon > Musicians & Dancers > Do Your Thing... > Very Nice Large Loft Space > > Sundays > 7-9PM > March 13,20,27 > $2 Contribution > > 380 Broadway > Top Floor > 2 Blocks South of Canal > > A Be-In Production... > PLUR > - - - - - > ummmmm...mebbe a dumb question here, but where: what state or city would help. ;) sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:44:55 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: gear up for grabs??? Only God can make a random selection! N ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:51:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: timewarp djs In-Reply-To: <199403151808.NAA14714@umd5.umd.edu> Hey, I was just reading over the list of djs again for the latest timewarp party... I was just wondering if DJ Mars was spinning? Just curious. Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 11:52:50 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: March Be-In's Hey sprockett, don't you know that Manhattan *IS* the universe? Neil ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 14:59:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: totally unrelated.. In-Reply-To: <199403151930.OAA18582@umd5.umd.edu> This was the last place that I thought that I could turn... If anyone could help me get in contact with the people that are doing the Loloolapolza (sp?) Party this summer. Who exactly does this event? Anyone... Sorry to list something totally unrelated but it seemed that I was not getting anywhere on my own..so I thought my brothers and sisters could help :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug *Oh, by the way I just recieved the Plesure Dome flyers in the mail yesterday...They are INCREDIBLE :) I can not wait til April the 9th :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:11:40 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Whose going to PleasureDome94? Hey all... I was just curious, who all is planning to go to PD94? I'm gonna be there in full force, and as embarasing as it is to admit, it will gonna be my first rave. I was wondering what, if anything, CyberTribe folks have planned... F/P.L.U.R., Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ +===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================+ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Advertise | | Joseph M. Harre \ HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU - Best ~~\___ Here | | Canisius College / HARREJ@DELPHI.COM - Ok.. \___ Good | | Buffalo, NY \ HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU - If you must \ Rates! | | 14208-1045 / ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM - Only to annoy me\ JMH | \_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/ / "Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered!", Black Adder \ \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719/ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |If anyone finds this sig |=- The Management -=| Wasted bandwith | | overly annoying tell me.| | and all... | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:12:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Asif Ikram Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Asif Ikram Subject: Congrats.to 1.8.7. Congratualtions are in order to 1.8.7. for signing onto MUSIC NOW RECORDS I'm pleased to announce that Joel LeSesne is a new artist on the MUSIC NOW label and I wish him the best of success, after a lot of hard work it is beginning to pay off. -aden A & R MUSIC NOW RECORDS ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:00:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: HELP!!! could someone pleeeze help me get off this list??? i have no idea where the current server is or what to say to it... desperate- shannon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 16:11:43 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: ACEEEEED PARTY on MA/CT border **** FRIDAY MARCH 18th **** On the MA/CT border 11pm - 8am ANOTHER HARD ACID TRANCE PARTY * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Dave (Boston) * Howie (Woosta Underground) * Chewbacca (NH) Cost: $3 to cover the cost for sound and space rental. The space is a warehouse used by bands for rehersal (NO BUST!) FOR DIRECTIONS: Directions will be posted by Friday afternoon or call (INFO LINE: (on the day of ONLY) 617-424-7183) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:43:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Spiritual Movement 3 Cybertribe, On the who's going where note...who will be at Spiritual Movement 3 and is there a pre-party planned? jennifer and I will be trekking down to DC from Jersey/Pennsylvania and would like to meet up with some peopele before the event as well as try to find a place to crash before heading back up north again. Thanks, Marshal Villarosa DJ Mars ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 17:09:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: ping ping ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 17:07:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Selway Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: Re: techno schism (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199403142140.QAA24771@umd5.umd.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Mar 14, 94 4:38 pm Actually, from an outside and very general point of view, the article isn't all that far off... It is very true in the techno scene (not all dance music, just techno) that there are tracks just for dancing, and others meant for listening. Whatever you call it, Hardcore or Progressive (and I think in this article they used "progressive" not in the house sense, but in the "new" sense) or Trance or Breakbeat or anything. And in some places, esp. England, there are dividing lines (yet fluid ones) between scenes - the majority of people into "Intellegent Techno" or "Ambient" or whatever are not into "Hardcore" or "Rave". And many of the ravers think the "intellegent" types are elitist snobs. Not that it's always like that, but true nonetheless. Musically there are, of course, also all the ranges inbetween - it's these that I choose to explore as an artist. Yes, I make intensely rip-roaring hard techno, but I also try to add listenable and challenging elements, not just Gabba stomp. The same goes for many of my other tracks - the more hypnotic of them (trance I guess, I just call it all techno) I try to add harmonic and melodic elements that are more than the usual VERY repetetive stuff heard on most dancefloors. anyway, just some thoughts... peace SPY ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 18:11:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Juliane Knadle Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Juliane Knadle Subject: Re: gear up for grabs??? In-Reply-To: <199403151804.NAA14612@umd5.umd.edu> ---Quel est-ce votre specialite Francois? Je me specialise dans la psychologie a L'Universite De New york a Oswego, pres du lac d'Ontario... Ca c'est un examen en francais, si vous le parlais, puis vous voulez me repondex s'il vous plait... Votre amie Americaine, Julie knadle@oswego.oswego.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:06:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Future Groove Review Alrighty...I havent read my mail yet...Im backed up from Thursday on...and I probobly wont get to till tomorrow but I figured Id put my 2 cents in about my party. I was truely and utterly disappointed at my party. I made a big mistake by teaming up with a promoter famous for dicking people over. The spot for the party that I saw only 2 days before was 2 buildings away and was totally different in terms of space...It had a huge main warehouse about the size on FG's main room, and the second room was about 3000 square feet, also with the same warehousey type feeling. Totally different than the space it ended up at. The new DJ room was unbelievely depressing! When I saw what it looked like I almost cried...but I had no choice...he had already signed a lease on the space. This was just the beginning of the problems. The night of the party I was told that I was supposed to come up with $500 for the space or have a percentage cut for the profits. So I chose to take a cut...it was no biggie...I just wanted the party to go on, money really wasnt an issue. Later on that night I was sent out to talk to the cops...they wanted to see a lease...when I got a hold of it from my "so-called" partner I noticed that the space was leased out for the night at no cost!!! He was trying to scheme me outta money!!! No worries though...I didnt make a scene. The bouncers were horrible!!! The sound was horrible!!! The lights were horrible!!! The organization was horrible!!! I had no say over anything.. and this was supposibly my party. As for the guest list...I was the last one to know rthat the guestlist had been terminated...when I found this out I just left...this was too much for me...even my guest list was torn up, and I invested lotsa money into the party. Im really sorry about all the problems all of you might've come across with the bouncers, lists, etc... Well, some good came outta this...I have been asked to get a hold of everyone of the DJ's in the new room...to make up for the $hi++y conditions I had y'all spin at I've managed to get all you you paying gigs at clubs on Long Island and New York City. There were a lot of VIPs in the new room who liked what they saw. As for the rest of you who got dicked over...I am going to help the people at Astralwerks set up weekly parties at the Sound Factory in NYC, and I will comp anyone that wants to come there. I will also be managing a new club opening on Long Island in 3 weeks...the first night will have an unbelieveable lineup...I will comp anyone who wants to make it there too...and if anyone of you wants to come to Caffeine anytime soon...Ill comp you there. Im really sorry about the hell I put you all through. This party really upset me...I was very very disappointed. I saw the bad side of something I really liked...:( We'll enough of my bitching and moaning... ...chris *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:34:50 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: gear up for grabs??? ---Quel est-ce votre specialite Francois? Je me specialise dans la psychologie a L'Universite De New york a Oswego, pres du lac d'Ontario... Ca c'est un examen en francais, si vous le parlais, puis vous voulez me repondex s'il vous plait... Votre amie Americaine, Julie knadle@oswego.oswego.edu ++++ Por qoi Francis? /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ +===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================+ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Advertise | | Joseph M. Harre \ HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU - Best ~~\___ Here | | Canisius College / HARREJ@DELPHI.COM - Ok.. \___ Good | | Buffalo, NY \ HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU - If you must \ Rates! | | 14208-1045 / ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM - Only to annoy me\ JMH | \_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/ / "Blessed are the meek, for they shall be slaughtered!", Black Adder \ \ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719/ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| |If anyone finds this sig |=- The Management -=| Wasted bandwith | | overly annoying tell me.| | and all... | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:40:40 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: Future Groove In-Reply-To: <9403112156.AA09850@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Jennifer J. Smeddy" at Mar 11, 94 12:30 pm > > Well, since we are setting the bar up at Future Groove I thought that > this would be a great place for all of us net ravers to meet. I will try to > make a sign that says cybertribe...but if I don't have enough time just > look for the Liquid Technology sign! :) > > (I'm the small girl with short bleached blond hair) > > Hope to meet you all sometime during the evening :) > > Peace All, > Jennifer Smeddy > Jenn-bug > DAMN!!!!! I didn't know that was you...for one thing...I didn't have access to my system!! SO I didn't get any of the info for the pre-party or anything!!!! Damn that too ! I heard that some of u didn't get in for the 7 bucks.....I did....and I didn't think that the event was too bad.....IT CERTAINLY WASN"T THE BEST......ESPECIALL Y SINCE SOOOOO MANY PPL WHEREN'T DANCING...but that's their fault!@ As for meet up with all the net ravers!!!! I hardly met any....that's the problem with being a shy guy! ( Kinda like guy smiley, just shy!!!) Maybe if I had more money to buy MUCH MUCH more snapple for all of u....I would have met more of u!!! Hope to see ALL of u soon! Oh...by the way...thanks for the water.....I bought it from u and didn't even realize it was u.....hehe..... NEd!(Snappleboy!) LOVE U ALL! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 19:49:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 3 In-Reply-To: <199403152202.RAA27799@holmes.umd.edu> I'll be at Spiritual Movement III. Unfortunately, I can't offer crash space, as I will be staying with friends myself, but I'd love to meet somewhere before, or if all else fails, at the event itself. Does anyone have any ideas??? -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 20:29:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: !We have a girl!...!We have a woman!...!We have a girl!...!We In-Reply-To: <94Mar14.155309edt.71162-2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "brendan mcdougall" at Mar 14, 94 2:41 pm hey there- I know you've prolly got a lot of these, so I'll make it short: Congratz! Congratz! Congratz! Congratz! Congratz! I wish all of you the best forever! harmon-e..pLUr! (gratz!) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 20:30:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Erin McGuinness Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Erin McGuinness Subject: Future Groove i just wanted to tell all you dj's out there who were disappointed about the way that future groove turned out not to be too hard on yourself. my friend and i drove up from s.c. to nyc to piss away the last few days of my spring break and mainly to go to future groove, and both he and i had an awesome time. everyone there was super nice which was really fly for a change--down here nobody talks to each other, only the people you go with. i thought it kind of sucked too that nobody was dancing, but hey, my friend and i were and we had SO MUCH FUN. i was really impressed despite any problems that arose. i want to tell chris "where-the-fuck-did-they-grow-you-from" who drove the shuttle to the train station thanks for giving us a lift. the prospect of having to trek back there at five thirty a.m. after a whole night of dancing was not very pleasant. and if anybody knows a guy from boston college named dan who i believe lives in hemingway l.i. (?) tell him i said hey. my friend and i are coming back up in may, so any info on what's going on up there then would be greatly appreciated. thanks, e. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:24:06 +0200 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: techno schism (fwd) >hm. so who died and made this the techno god. a HUGE article like this >and no one's opinion but his own--- not what they taught *me* to do in >journalism school. :) > >and hell, no breaks? on the contrary, i thought this was an excellent article. some of it i don't agree with it, but i still thought it was excellently written. the writer showed actual in depth knowledge of rave culture, or at least a whole lot more than other articles i have read. as for it being very opinionated, i agree that it is, but i personally am sick of reporters who don't have the guts to say what they mean. this reporter has an opinion and isn't afraid to state it, with some evidence of course. a reporter shouldn't be so opinionated that he/she is blind to other views but at the same time interesting articles have a point to them. as for what i think about the article, i agree with the fundamental fact that there is a schism between idm and hardcore. the stuff about class-based struggle i find somewhat bullshit but otherwise i agree with his main premise. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:24:10 +0200 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: free mix tapes in boston?! >i've never seen them give you a token before the money > > > > >but they do pass out free dj mix tapes and cd's on saturdays. > > >you just have to kjnow where to look where? where?! WHERE?! ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| official sponsor of |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| resident wise-ass |=| SoNiC ToNiC(tm) |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)===========================(:)=====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Nature has been made possible by a grant from |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - PBS |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:22:40 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Future Groove In-Reply-To: <199403160135.UAA29436@holmes.umd.edu> Erin, What were you and your friend wearing? Were you in the new talent room at all? Virtually yours, Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Founder of PETV: People for the bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | Ethical Treatment of Vegetables bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | Have you hugged a legume today? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:53:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: question for bos... I'll indulge in this; My favorite rag shop is Oona's on either Boylston (right below Boston Beat) and in Cambridge. Good selection of service station shirts . Their prices are weird though... For instance one service shirt might be, say, $12 and another one (same size) is $20. Sometimes good prices, sometimes bad. I also like getting Japanimation T-Shirts at Man From Atlantis in The Garage in Cambridge. I have soo many t-shirts tho.. anyone want to buy some? =) Peace, DJ Entox PS: Ever notice how overpriced Placid Planet is? Maybe 'cuz their on Newbury St. They gotta pay major rent probably.. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 23:30:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer hello. for all of those out there who have waited so long and for all of those who are interested in hearing some sick uk hardcore, then this notice is of interest to you. after much delay, i have finally finished my new mix tape and i am making it available to you, the public. presenting .......... T H E F U T U R E S O U N D O F H A R D C O R E dieselBoy . march . 1994 side.1.darkness side.2.ambient and uplifting 'ardkore .......... in order to get this tape, please do the following : mail 1 90 minute cassette 1 Self Addressed Stamped Envelope 3 dollars US to damian higgins 5222 forbes ave pittsburgh pa 15217 USA i'll dub it for you same day and ship it off. i hope you enjoy it and i welcome and all feedback. if you are a promoter and want a tape, send me e-mail. damian higgins / dieselBoy .......................... into the fuuuuuuuuuuuuture ps - i owe some people tapes. they are listed below. if you are not on the list and i *do* owe you a tape, write me... list .... cindy kawakami leah reich dj fresh blend paul rhee melanie elkins michael perkowitzky ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 00:09:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Concept time.. In-Reply-To: <199403141400.JAA04058@umd5.umd.edu> Promoter/producer/distributer of multi-media social event list. we have to realize is the anwers include but are also beyongdd the rave lets start talking or are scene will become much too shocking it will burn out... ((((owww don't even say anything like that))))) your faithful boy paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 01:11:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/15/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Hope everyone has a fun weekend / spring break / etc. I hate it here. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 03/18/94 - ANOTHER HARD ACID TRANCE- MA/CT Border - (617) 424 - 7183 03/19/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT III - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/25/94 - RITES OF SPRING - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 499 - 7765 04/02/94 - EQUILIBRIUM - Connecticut - (???) ??? - ???? 04/09/94 - MOTION - New York City - (212) 465 - 3290 04/09/94 - THE FORTRESS - Jersey Shore - (908) 229 - 2946 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/23/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 2+ 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 05/14/94 - PLANET EARTH - New York City - (516) 547 - 6129 05/20/94 - THE AWAKENING - Asbury Park, NJ - (???) ??? - ???? 05/21/94 - ULTRAVIOLET - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 06/04/94 - GALAXY 2000 - Brooklyn, NY - (212) 631 - 1065 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 18 Mass/Connecticut Border (617) 424 - 7183 ANOTHER HARD ACID TRANCE PARTY *call day of ONLY* 11pm - 8am ANOTHER HARD ACID TRANCE PARTY * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Dave (Boston) * Howie (Woosta Underground) * Chewbacca (NH) Cost: $3 to cover the cost for sound and space rental. The space is a warehouse used by bands for rehersal (NO BUST!) FOR DIRECTIONS: Directions will be posted by Friday afternoon or call (INFO LINE: (on the day of ONLY) 617-424-7183) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 19 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT 3 Spiritual Movement 3 will be happening on March 19th. The location will be fully legal and fire inspected. The DJ line-up: Neuromancer Micro DJ Sun Jason Jinx Scott Henry Richie Hawtin Moby Lasers by Pawn Stiltwalkers Gyrobix and Visuals by Psylicybin For more info, contact Modern Music at (410)523-1882 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 25th ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 RITES OF SPRING RITES OF SPRING (Vernal Equinox 2, pre-RED party) March 25th, 1994 Starts at Midnight til 6am Two Dance Floors!! DJ'S: DISCOVERY MARK SWAMI SPROCKETT KLOKWERK STINGRAY MEDICINE MAN BILL KRAMER SPACE more DJ's to be announced. 17+ with id Bowling and breakfast will be available. $8.00 admission, $2.00 off with a RED ticket. $35.00 Bus and Ticket to RED..available... RSVP ASAP... to:BIG DIPPER 518/465-6381 Rites of Spring Info line: 518/432-4784 This event is put on by SPACE Productions and the MISSION Crew. [There will be plenty of crash space for those who wish to make a weekend of this and RED there will be a bus from Albany to RED and back of course... any one need of crash space please e-mail me at yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu and soon if u can so we can organize it well as I said before this is sure to be a vibey event and all who can make it are encouraged to come we love to have people with the PLUR vibe in Albany and always strive to have PHAT parties for one and all! see yah soon :) ;). -CAT] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (617) 499 - 7765 RED (212) 886 - 5421 After months of planning, we are ready to bring you another step into the future... journey into the heated fathoms of Red, the finale in a series of primary colors. Step out of yourself and feel the surge of joy as PRIMARY PRODUCTIONS gears up to take you on a ride you will never forget! Once again PANDEMONIUM will display its talent with a massive ariel multi-beam laser assault, intelligent lighting by Martin, pyrotechnics, a full quad winch mounted moving truss structure, strobes, UV conons and other effects that will surely dazzle! TERRY HANLEY SOUND SYSTEMS (Woodstock/Life/Yellow) will construct a scaffold mounted four point dance system to ensure minimum bleed and maximum wattage density. All three rigs are designed to create absolute clarity and consistency all night long! You have been warned! A full 20 ft stage complemented by dance floor risers, and platforms. Massive 80 ft backdrops, panoramic views from the chill-out zone, indoor marquee, 15 ft video walls, tribal drummers, and much more.... TO ENSURE YOUR ENJOYMENT: - Strict Door Procedures - Full Medical and Safety Room - Patrolled Parking - Clean bathrooms - No Readmission [how does this ensure enjoyment?] - Information Booth - Full Cafe & Rest Area - 18 and Over [WHY?] - No Alcohol - R.O.A.R. Look out for... Purple N.Y.C. in the Fall Spectrum N.Y.C. Fridays begin in June Ultraviolet N.Y.C. MD & MA beginning in May [I'm there] Rainbow New England (outdoors) Summer 1994 [I'm there too!!!!] TICKETS GO ON SALE MARCH 1ST 1994 $15.00 until March 10 $20.00 until March 23 $25.00 day of Last day for ticket purchase Wednesday March 23 1994 (Ticket prices may vary on buses) 24-HOUR INFORMATION: (617)-499-7765 (212)-886-5421 Primary Productions are: 333 MGEE MELLO Promotional Strenth: NEW YORK BOSTON WORLD -------- ------ ----- Mello/Primary Primary Tiga/DNA dennis the menace & All Done Chemistry/Harmony joint ventures/S.U.N. Mindwarp K.C. & the Sunrise Gang Eddie Van Raven/S.U.N. Central Pivot Atom & Warped Papa/Zooted Dezel Balu Trepp Vibe Tribe Sugarbabe Scooter D.J. Fluffhead Alan Sanctuary S.E.S. Productions Up North Ultraworld Big Dipper Angel A.C.M.E T.H.C. Kort & Greg Muse Chris Styles Heather United Techno TRANSPORT & INFORMATION Boston ------ PRIMARY- (617) 499 7765 All Done Posse- (617) 576 8353 Mindwarp- (617) 499 4848 Vibe Tribe- (508) 877 0790 New York -------- Brooklyn-Joint Ventures- (212) 629 2061 Long Isl.-Eddie Van Raven- (516) 925 2011 Manhattan-PRIMARY- (212) 885 5421 Alan Sanctuary- (212) 696 8939 Up State-Up North Prod- (914) 256 0445 Big Dipper- (518) 465 6381 New Jersey ---------- Scooter- (212) 631 1033 Angel- (908) 972 6270 Philadelphia ------------ T.H.C. Productions- (215) 923 4339 Washington D.C. --------------- Muse Productions- (202) 452 7663 Scientific Images- (202) 828 0749 Baltimore --------- Ultraworld- (410) 880 7031 Providence ---------- Balu- (401) 454 6028 Montreal -------- Tiga\DNA- (514) 854 6446 Maine ----- K.C. & the sunrise gang- (207) 773 6979 Vermont ------- Mothership- (802) 658 3736 Connecticut ----------- Atom & Warped Prod- (203) 454 6643 Please, if you would like to take a bus, help out your promoter by booking early! TICKET OUTLETS [what I got these for] -------------- Modern Music- Baltimore- (410) 523 1882 Music now!- Washington D.C.- (202) 638 3272 Groove records- Brooklyn- (718) 714 5352 Allston Beat- Boston- (617) 421 9555 Devious Mind- Boston- (617) 421 9066 Boston Beat- Boston- (617) 247 2428 Liquid Sky- Manhattan- (212) 343 0532 Lunasea- Providence- (401) 272 5862 Mothership- Vermont- (902) 658 3736 Juan & Juanita- Montreal- (514) 847 2292 ****D*****J****'****S**** DARREN EMERSON FRANKIE BONES GUY D.M.C Underworld Groove NYC/DMC Records Ministry of Sound FABIO PARAS SCOTT HENRY TIGA Junior Boys Own DC Fever/Buzz Montreal/DNA Drum Club TIN TIN 333 DEBO Warp Records Dogs Bollocks Stress Records Club UK Boston Mindwarp/Boston ONIONZ M-GEE SAMEER Dogs Bollocks LI Caffeine Boston ARMAND OSHEEN RYDE NYC Strictly Rhythm/Sorted RI Renegade Records NJ Smooth Groove JOESKI BRUNO TROPOSPHERE N.Y.C. Chocolate Factory Boston - The Loft NYC DMC Records ANDREW & ARNAUD OF ENTITY SOUL SLINGER INTERCHILL Baltimore - Ultraworld NYC Liquid Sky Universal Egg Records MR. KLEEN NYC Net Morning Glory with... KING BRITT JAZZY NICE Digable Planets Giant Step and MORE Philly New York SATURDAY MARCH 26th 1994 10:00 PM TO 10:00 AM THE ROYAL PLAZA TRADE CENTER FITCHBURG MASSACHUSETTS PRIMARY PRODUCTIONS - SHINE ON - CENTRAL PIVOT _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 2 CONNECTICUT (???) ??? - ???? EQUILIBRIUM United Techno presents: EQUILIBRIUM APRIL 2 CT James Christian, Jimmy Crash, Troposphere, Ryde, Happy, Frankie Bones, Micro, Mr. Trash, Joeski, Space Ace, Scott Richmond _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 3290 MOTION M O T I O N April 9th, 1994 Masters of Sound: frankie bones jimmy crash tiga onionz micro james christian k-5 papa Motion Line: 212.465.3290 Motion is a proud supporter of S.U.N. Summer '94 $12 tickets available at Groove Records 718.714.5232 DJ Records 516.667.1112 Chop Shop 516.354.0606 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 JERSEY SHORE (908) 229 - 2946 THE FORTRESS "T H E F O R T R E S S" Saturday, April 9th 3 sound systems, 2 chill-out rooms DJ's: Hell Psychotrope Download XTC Blackout Denard Gee Money Mars Time: Midnight - Dawn [More info to come] Location in Jersey Shore area and will be announced day before event via the info line... INFO: (908) 229 - 2946 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME PLASMA1000@aol.com On April 9, 1994, Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Energizer, Sandman, Plasma and Apple present: PLEASUREDOME94. Live PA's Prototype 909 Baby Ford 1.8.7. DJ's Colin Faver Dave Angel Keoki Dmitry Jason Jinx King Britt James Christian On-e Gerret Frerrich Who Sun Mr Kleen Lee Speed Demon Greg Sargent Odyssy Kieth Kennebeck Karl Matthews Sketti Bobble LG Double 07 Deitrich Robby Dyno Acid Trevor Lamont Reese Tiff This event will take place in three areas under one massive roof at a venue that is completely new, 100% legal and 100% pleasure. If anybody is interested in vending, promoting, running bus trips or would like their info line on the flyer, please call 410.347.1460. But hurry, flyers are going to print next week. (A DC line is upcomming.) Comments and suggestions can also be left at: PLASMA1000@aol.com. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN KC & the Sunrise Gang together with Pandemonium bring you... ****10**** Saturday, April 23rd Celebrating two years and ten major events Portland Maine 9pm until dawn and then some! Under the bright beautiful moon of spring KC & Pandemonium invite you to our tenth endless night of PURE bliss, hands reaching SKY HIGH, DEEP grooves, and GRINning ravers. Join our CRUSADE for the blinding truth and a phat vibe! Declare your INDEPENDANCE, don't cry MAYDAY and journey with us TOO DEEP into the future, on our mission to make the planet GRIN AGAIN! (207) 773-6979 Look for our mid-winter micro-raves coming soon! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 2 + 3 @ GSC1@Lehigh.Edu [rescheduled and combined with Timewarp 2] 9 p.m. - 6 a.m. (After-party to follow sponsored by LV Bass Junkies-Location T.B.A.) Come join us as we become "Lost in Cyberspace." All roads lead to the Lehigh Valley. ZONE 1: "MARS" ADAM X JIMMY CRASH JAMES CHRISTIAN DIESELBOY AND GEOFFE two-hour breakbeat in yer face jam w/ MC MIKE B IKON ZONE 2: "VENUS" WINK DB SCOTT RICHMOND GOODWILL MIKO ZONE 3: "NEPTUNE" URSOL LAZLO CONSPIRACY 3 giant rooms all in a one-hundred year old remodeled warehouse. 20-Foot Video Projections by HIGH RISE GROUP, Lazers by PAWN, I-Lighting; Concessions by Loop, Direct From Mars, Fusion. Smart Bar by DNA. Giveaways by Moonshine,Instinct, Nova Mute and more. Sound by Decibel Productions. Door by "Hoopla Squad." Security tight but nice. Doors open 8:30 p.m. Tickets available at door only night of the event. INFO./DIRECTIONS: THE FREIGHT YARD "FATHOM" 24-HOUR INFO. LINE: (610)433-0503 geoffe (610)758-9969 FLYERS by A&A in your area soon. Interested in Promo and want to get in on the V.I.P. list? Send e-mail to GSC1@Lehigh.Edu by April 1. DIRECTIONS: Take Routes I-78, 309, 33, Pa. Turnpike to Route 22. Exit at Fullerton Ave. Head South. Make a right turn(on to Tilghman St.) where you can't go straight anymore due to street turning one-way. At second light make a right.(Linden St.) At Antique Market sign make a left. Make a right turn in between the two warehouses(Court St.) and unite. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 14 NEW YORK CITY (516) 547 - 6129 PLANET EARTH Essence presents... P L A N E T E A R T H Saturday May 14, 1994 (516)547-6129 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 20th ASBURY PARK, NJ (???) ??? - ???? THE AWAKENING DJs : Adam X - Micro - James Christian - Dave Trance Mars - Sal V. - Glenn Garcia _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com ULTRAVIOLET ULTRAVIOLET in conjunction with Primary productions DJs: Scott Henry Dj Sun Who Greg Seargent 3 3 3 M Gee Osheen Debo Joeski w/JOESKI at the after hours tix will most likely be $13, the event will be in baltimore times: 10 pm - 8 am with a free afterhours at the reel chill spot. make sure you are dressed appropriately for the black light theme! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 BROOKLYN, NY (212) 631 - 1065 GALAXY 2000 (718) 714 - 5232 Brooklyn's combined forces present the goods GALAXY 2000 leaving earth: *Saturday June 4, 1994* Trancecore DJ's: Frankie Bones Jimmy Crash Heather Heart James Christian Adam X Carlos Tera Dave Trance K-5 plus guests and a separate chill-zone... *free toys and 20K of pounding noise* Respects Due: Storm, S.U.N., STOP, Spice, F.B.I., Motion Posse (LI), Mental Unity INFO PHONES: 212-631-1065, 718-714-5232 Prepare to blast off this June! *Brooklyn's True Underground Returns* And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 22:37:56 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: March Be-In's Psychic Sound Salon In NYC Musicians & Dancers Do Your Thing... Very Nice Large Loft Space Sundays 7-9PM March 13,20,27 $2 Contribution 380 Broadway Top Floor 2 Blocks South of Canal A Be-In Production... PLUR - - - - - ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 01:53:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: some more comments from papa in response to jen's message On Mon, 14 Mar 1994, Jennifer J. Smeddy wrote: > > Well, being a female that is tring to do something in the scene (ie promo, > magazine, tend bar) I seem to come in contact first hand with sexism in > the scene all the time. Sadly enough some of the time males do not even > know when they are acting in a sexist fashion! Yes its true and this is what my next message was about... wher I feel that for djs the onus for the situation to change is on the women because I don't see anyone trying like as if anyone who became a dj had it all handed to them or something.... it is much different for promotion... there is an air of sexism because the type of men who throw parties are on the whole very aggressive sexist-violent types, or in the clubs effeminate and very gay-orienteed even if they are bi as well as the previous stereotype very often being applied to club owners and managers. Still half the problem is perceptual because utheir are many more men trying to promote and a HUGE amount of them never even get close to catching some respect, restitution, or special treatment.... So what happens is alot of the assholes who do make it are the kind that push everybody out of the way, not just women. One has to have more than just a good attitude or a special gift to be a good promoter, and alot of this has more to do with the kind of ambition that doesn't make a good raver. The only good people I've seen in the promotion scene aren't looking for respect or any props from the people they work with. They are willing to put down ALL their financial security and make sacrifices like living with parents, without any candy for themselves you know--- just to make sure the party will be good for everyone eorking and everyone attending and not freak out the neighboring community in the process.. I think that everyone gets a large amount of flak because of theri genderr/ race/ belief system / age / dress / sexual-orientation and this is precisely my point.... I'M SURE THAT I GET AS MUCH FLAK FOR BEING A STRAIGHT WHITE 21-YEAR OLD MALE RAVER AS ANY WOMAN GETS AND AS MANY OBSTACLES. I think that most people have to work twice as hard as the guy who made it to get half the recognition and I know very few who can say they are privledged enough to not be the victim of prejudice on a constant day to day, hour to hour basis. Remember that if someone is not concious of their faux-pas it can't be soley their responsibility unless it is their intention to be unaware... It is important for the backwash of inherited sexist or bigoted traits to be addresses as a community problem not just a problem for people who feel like victims. It is everybodies loss when an individual doesn't live up to their full potential... we all lose that potential beautiful or technically superior creation that they couldn't accomplish. It is not just the individual who has learned violent or psychologically abusive behavior who needs to address a more creative solution it is the entire community that becomes oppressed by this being in their community. if we want to be together.. WE need to take responsibility together. I don't care if your social-gender-economic-orientation dictates you are a victim or an abuser by contemporary and politically correct dogma. Whoever one is ... We are all responsible for the shape of what is and we can all be responsible and hopefull for the shape of what will be. > I could give you numberous examples of how I was personally treated with > less respect for trying to do something "that is a males job" or getting > special treatment for all the wrong reasons ....for being female and > nothing else... Sorry, me too- I can't say I haven't had the problem in reverse. I'll bake you a whole batch of cookies but it probably would be construed as some kind of diminishing of the importance of the problems rather than a great form of building empathy, like my grandpop taught me. Leave your door open , feed all that come in personal feeling aside for anyone you have personal problems, give-all the benefit of the doubt, have pity for those who stop you for they may know not how good a thing they dismiss...Give and take all at once, taking care of others is taking care of yourself,, taking care of yourself is taking care of others. DO BOTH ALWAYS > While doing the smart bar it is safe to say that no one would question > this being a "good job for a female" due to this being a job a > majority of the time done by females.. I'd say smart bar tending is a perfect cross-section. Chris Riley who started the smartbar with alice as well as Martin who ran the dumb bar at your all so humble beginnings (don't your remember NASA jenn-bug, I know you were there dancing beside me in the day, so was Marshall, and alot of others some your probably just meeting, I mean do you remember me, you will when you meet me again) what about TOAST doing it for essence and bug. and Mike! for the nyc clubs and at the loft you will see fairly represented minorities and gender. >.but with the magazine and > promoting getting the same sort of respect is sometimes a > completely different story. I have to agree about the sexism in promotion... but magazine... its a meritocracy... your mag just hasn't been as visible all over the east coast as just say Under One SKY and Slurp! I think if it was then it would have the same respect and I'm sure for those who have seen both they probably could care less if it were a women or a man who edited it, they probably judge it on its contents. hey project X 's head editor is Julie Jewels and since Michael Alig, Peter Gatien, and Howard Schaffer are all gay ( as well as Keoki ) I very well doubt she got the job for all the wrong reasons, I personally think Paper and alot of other mags are a ton better than Project X but I made that assessment long before I knew whether it was a boy or a girl who edited the dirty rag. > If someone would tell you that sexism does not exist in the rave > scene they are sadly mistaken. I feel that many people are trying to help > this issue and to hopefully solve this problem...don't get me > wrong...but unfortunatly there are many males that I have come in contact > with, that hold respected postions in the rave scene, treate me and > other females with little or no respect solely because of the fact > that we are female. melloes the both of them, alan sanctuary, the slater brothers, richard the dick who threw bug, scotto, and ira of essence are all assholes and they respect no one besides themselves and those who serve them in the most dick-licking fashion and will use any characteristic about you to attempt to make you feel like shit (pay them no mind) (flame off) remember you can always run the party yourself, and you have to admit that if you can't its hard to criticize the rules. the rules are this is where the big girls and boys play and there are no rules here what do you think we're being watched by mommy or daddy, play hard-ball or start your own game..... as for those of you who are interested in the later option.... please keep in touch... and any of you hard-ball players you are invited too just remember we have different rules here or you can go back to your old hard-ball game. EITHER WAY the most important thing to remember is enjoy yourself or be making a place to enjoy yourself > As for female djs..any female that is trying to get respect in this male > dominated profession good luck...but we can definately do anything that we > put our minds to! I agree but I wouldn't say good-luck sarcastically. If you put your mind to it you'll have better-luck getting respect. :P :) :O ... > Being female does have one great advantage...it has taught us how to work > twice as hard to achieve something that a male might achieve a hell of a > lot easier..this making us more able to achieve to the next level. So to any > females out there that feel that they could never do anything in any scene, > get real! We can do anything that we put our minds to...and hopefully in > doing this improve the future and improve the misconceptions on what is > and what is not a female and a male role. I think if you keep thinking that that is the way it is that is its half-as-hard for males... you will always feel defeated. > Feels good to get that out of my system :) (and I thought that this was > going to be a short post) > > Peace, > Jennifer Smeddy > Jenn-bug I hope not to sound like I'm against women because if anything I hope that this makes sense in a way to empower anyone who feels put-down in some way... this is not weird that I want everyone to succeed ... it's natural I've been missing out on everything people haven't down because they felt oppressed. and i've missed out on doing a lot of things because I felt oppressed. Jenn don't take this as an attack, I just want to continue the dialog from another perspective.. please respond. paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 02:07:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: GeoffE from Sprockett In-Reply-To: <199403151808.NAA14714@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 15 Mar 1994, Kristopher Setchfield wrote: > Hey, > > just a line with a couple of ?'s > GF> DJ's who sent tapes in, you are not forgotten, Sprockett, Will-E, > GF> Method One(Jason) you will be contacted shortly as well as > GF> others. Any > GF> questions write or call me. > > > > curious to make sure: you got my tape this time, right? I assumed so from what > you wrote above. Did you like it &/or find it acceptable for your place? > I'd absolutely *love* to spin for ya.....just gotta work out when and how. > > > also: > GF> Anyone who wants press information on what the heck actually > GF> happens down > GF> here send me your postal mail address(snail mail) and I will > GF> send > GF> photocopies of what the space looks like, who is involved, > GF> and why you too > GF> can build a scene out in the middle of nowhere. > > > > i am totally interrested in this info: if you wouldn't mind making up a packett > for me i'd appreciate it sooooooo much! trying to make a "scene" in upstate > ny is difficult enough, mebbe your stuff could help. > > > > thanks for your time, my friend: > > sprockett > yea, me too if you don't mind. I'd love to see the information and I can always take new advice. your favorite faithful joy boy paul paul Paul Gydos 71 Charlesfield St. Providence, R.I. 02906 i'll return whatever reasonable amount of money to cover cost! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 23:12:41 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: Re[2]: women Paul J Gaydos writes: > I'M SURE THAT I GET AS MUCH FLAK FOR BEING A STRAIGHT WHITE 21-YEAR OLD MALE > RAVER AS ANY WOMAN GETS AND AS MANY OBSTACLES. Meaning no disrespect, Paul, I think you're wrong. Far, far fewer people look at you as having no possibilities or interest except as a lay, a status symbol, or a convenience (housekeeper, nurse, whatever). You are pretty right about the difficulties in getting *anything* done, but you still start out as being seen (usually) as a human being. On the other hand, you don't seem inlarge danger of being too badly misunderstood. While I think you are mistaken, you do not seem to have any hatred or malice at all. Good luck continuing your education and maturation, Neil ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 02:43:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403160716.CAA00984@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 15 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Paul J Gaydos writes: > > I'M SURE THAT I GET AS MUCH FLAK FOR BEING A STRAIGHT WHITE 21-YEAR OLD MALE > > RAVER AS ANY WOMAN GETS AND AS MANY OBSTACLES. > edited > On the other hand, you don't seem inlarge danger of being too badly > misunderstood. > While I think you are mistaken, you do not seem to have any hatred or malice at > all. > > Good luck continuing your education and maturation, > Neil > I think that it is different in my generation, that for you being a white male was an extrordinary advantage and that althugh most women in my generation will disagree with me it is different for men my age. unfortunately I have been almost always looked at as a lay, a symbol of something I wasn't not a sex symbol but something equally degrading, or as a convenience, such that I've always been expected to be that convenience, and that I should feel all kinds of great guilt because of my sexual and racial make-up... so what is the difference ???? does it matter wether people like me before were either privlidged or repressed it matters not at all from my perspective only how I was treated and I could be just as negative about oppressive women in my life but instead I'm looking for a solution. I phantom the only way I'll find it is if we are all looking for it together because I think it will benefit everyone equally (and it is the only way that it will benefit everyone equally) and I will not participate in any solution that will not benefit everyone equally- i will allways look to work together. paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 06:48:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Resent-From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Comments: Originally-From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: Whose going to PleasureDome94? In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:11:40 EDT from ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Okay, I am not only going to be at Pleasure Dome, but I am also offering crash space (if you read the HOM)...and here's a thought: how about those of you that are going to be there, send mail to Melzie so she can post it in the HOM....th at way all Cybertribe members can kinda figure out who is gonna be there, and w here a good spot for a pre-party thingy would be. I can offer my space, but I d on't know how conveinient that will be since I am getting a ride with danFREElo ve....but if that sounds good to any of you out there, I'm game...:) Lemme know BeccaMD :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:41:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Looking for a space.. Hey folks. I am looking for a space, well, not a physical space, but another space. I am putting up that other list (the promoters/support people/producers of raves list) and I need to find a majordomo or listserv that I can use. Anyone have a clue where I can find one? I know I can ask Brian, but he has done alot for us already and is pretty busy with his other (amazingly large number of) projects. Kudos to that man who knows what the scene is about. :) Anyhow, if you have any leads, or if you own a machine on the net and could throw up a copy of majordomo let me know. I want to get this thing flowing. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 07:55:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403160716.CAA00984@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 15 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Paul J Gaydos writes: > > I'M SURE THAT I GET AS MUCH FLAK FOR BEING A STRAIGHT WHITE 21-YEAR OLD MALE > > RAVER AS ANY WOMAN GETS AND AS MANY OBSTACLES. > > Meaning no disrespect, Paul, I think you're wrong. Far, far fewer people look > at > you as having no possibilities or interest except as a lay, a status symbol,or > a > convenience (housekeeper, nurse, whatever). Just as a personal note I find the argument of relationships of convenience being seen as a bad thing to be shallow. That people use each other for personal gain is a matter of course (a cobbler has no interest fishing and thus trades shoes for fish, a fisher has no interest in astronomy and trades fish for a tide chart). The fact is that their is a balanced relationship if you are talking strictly about the convenience aspect of it. Historically speaking there has been long been a symbiotic relationship between the sexes (and even the genders) with some abuses occuring on each side. For every 'I am gonna marry a good homemaker' there is a 'I am gonna marry a millionaire' or at least an equitable share on each side. These of course are extremes. Marriage is a very convenient state of affairs, it has historically allowed for a specialization of duties (yes, the old breadwinner and housewife stereotype). Lately it has been shifted around as women enter the job market in increasing numbers and are unequitably saddled with the both extrahousehold work and household work without a proportionate increase in male household work. Nonetheless convenience is a viable reason for a relationship if both parties enter into the union realizing reasonable expectations of the other. Of course, the lay and status symbol arguments are insulting to women in general, but individually can be held to be valid, unfortunately. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 08:20:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: New Badge Info Information: Okay, first a little information on the badges. These badges have no real value to anyone except as identification. They come in especially handy when their is no way you are going to be able to talk over the bass and make great non-conversation pieces. The prices I am charging barely cover the production costs (lamination, creation, chain and ring). You will note that I am raising the prices across the board because I realized I am losing money with the incidental costs I run into. Here is a breakdown of the costs: Personalized Badges: Printing of Information : $0.10 Cutting and Lamination : $2.00 Transportation* : $0.15 Necklace Chain (3ft. x $.59): $1.77 Necklace Clasp : $0.09 Ring : $0.29 ----------------------------------- Total : $4.40 NE Raves badges #3: Cutting and Lamination (4 x $1.50): $6.00 Transportation* : $0.15 Necklace Chain (3ft x $0.59) : $1.77 Necklace Clasp : $0.09 Ring : $0.29 ----------------------------------------- Total : $8.30 *Transportation: The place I take this stuff to is pretty far away from me, about a 15 minute drive, so this is to cover me getting there and back. It is based on an approximation of my costs if I am taking several badges over at once. I am sorry I had to increase the prices, but after running the first series of badges I realized that the incidental costs were going to kill me. If you have already sent me an order based on the former prices, then you are okay and I will follow through with that order, but as of now the prices are upped. Also, a note on costs for delivering the badges. I will deliver these badges to any rave I am heading to, or I will hand them off to someone for you if you tell me to give them to them. But for orders through the mail please add $1.50 for shipping and packaging. As I have said, if you already ordered, don't worry about it, I will cover the extra costs, but the new pricing is in effect now. Now, when you order one of the personalized badges (DC Raves, NE Raves #2 and #4 (when available)) you need to put some information on the back side. Feel free to include whatever you want, I will scale the fonts to include as much information as possible. But remember, this is a reasonably small piece of paper, and you want to retain legibility. Suggested information to be included on the personalized badges: Handle Name Group Association EMail Address Telephone Number Pager Number City of Residence Pithy Quote The way it is listed out here is, in general, how it will be formatted onto your badge. Handle will be oversized, all text will be center justified, group assocation (ie Jenn-Bug would be ZooM) will be bold faced and the quote will be in quotes. :) Badges: DC Raves Badge - Available The DC Raves badge is a background of a posse of happy smiling yellow faces on an orange field with the words 'DC Raves' sprawled accross the front. The back includes personal information. It was designed by Max (Fierce Ruling Diva) of the DC Raves tribe. Cost $4.40 NE Raves Badge 1 - Unavailable The old orange style badges with personal information included and a window for difractive lens which unfortunately tended to melt during lamination. Unknown who designed it, Laura La Gassa probably did. Cost: N/A NE Raves Badge 2 - Available The CyberTribes most popular badge. This has the VR man on the front of it reaching out to touch something. Above him are the words 'Reach Out * Connect' and below him are the words 'NE Raves' and the old gnu address. Personal information is included on the back. While the address has changed I won't change the address until the image is cleaned up and I can redo the whole badge. It wsa designed and originally distributed by Taylor808 (Instinct Records) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $4.40 NE Raves Badge series 3 - Available A series of four badges sold as a set. The background to each of these is a field of the words 'Peace Love Unity Respect' repeated ad infinitum at a crazy tilt. Superimposed on that are the multicolored letters 'PLUR' and on each badge is a scripted word, either 'Peace', 'Love', 'Unity', or 'Respect'. Above this montage is the new NetRave logo (for incorporation into all badge series as a show of Unity) and below is the word 'NE Raves'. Personal information is not included on the badges and the whole series is sold as a set (to allow for a greater volume to be produced at a given time). Both the series and the new NetRave logo were designed by David Darrow (Chaos Lite Graphics) of the NE Raves CyberTribe. Cost: $8.30 NE Raves Badge 4 - Unavailable This is still in the concept stage. Envisioned is one or two of the Peanuts gang (comic strip) dancing, in rave clothing or spinning some 1200s. Above would be the words 'Get Net * It Pays' and below would be the words 'NE Raves'. The back would contain information on the owner of the badge. Looking for someone who can draw in Charles Schultz style to create these things. Cost: N/A ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 10:38:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Cerutti Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Cerutti Subject: Re: Re[2]: women All i got to say is that paul paul is in the muthafuckin house!! While I may not agree with everyhting you have said paul, i think you have made a very valid agruement, and i particulary enjoy your unabashed brashness. I think that you post holds many, many truths and am very interested in seeing as how jenn and many others respond. I was also impressed at the lack of name dropping you displayed for in a topic like this and a person like yourself you could have easily just started the name-dropping and bashing all too common on this list. I encourage you to keep it up paul paul, balls out is the only way to go!! especially if you want to be heard!! good work. piece out, andy c. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 11:42:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Oral Thursday Cybertribe: The New Jersey Underground presents... O R A L Thursday, March 17 Last week was our opening night and we had 150 people out. The space is really phat, as well as the sound and lights. Once you check the place out, you will be totally impressed. DJ's: Gee Money Mars Zoe Sal V. Unique Intelligent lighting Lasers Smart bar Chill-out room Doors open at 11pm close at 6am Admission price: $7 [I will put you on a reduced admission guest list for $5 if you call me at (908)724-9711 and leave your name (spell it) and phone number.] No alcohol R.O.A.R. Location: The Headquarters at 4th and Ocean Ave. in Asbury Park, NJ INFO AND DIRECTIONS: Mars (908)724-9711 Zoom (215)998-9650 T.H.C. Prod. (215)923-4339 Angel Asylum (908)972-6270 Digital Deviants (908)287-8795 Peace out, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:23:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: test testing 1 2 3 "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:37:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Spiritual Movement 3 Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 16-MAR-94 13:28 >From: "D.J.MARS" >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 1994 15:43:15 EST >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >Cybertribe, > >On the who's going where note...who will be at Spiritual Movement 3 and is >there a pre-party planned? jennifer and I will be trekking down to DC from >Jersey/Pennsylvania and would like to meet up with some peopele before the >event as well as try to find a place to crash before heading back up north >again. > >Thanks, >Marshal Villarosa >DJ Mars >--- I will be there....and I can offer crash space...yet...I am in DC and the party is in Balt... whatevah! john ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:35:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cliff Hall <75310.3013@COMPUSERVE.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cliff Hall <75310.3013@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Call for Submissions (CD-ROM 'zine) ************************ New CD-ROM 'Zine ****************************** A Multimedia Roundup of the Best and the Brightest Presented in the MS-Windows Environment Coming soon for Macintosh ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Call for Submissions ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Deleriously Serious Softworks is putting together a new CD-ROM 'zine which will bring together a variety of interesting people and projects in a multimedia environment. This 'zine will be a platform for articles, project announcements (and calls for participation in them like this one), any-media artwork, field reports in science, alternative music, technology, and art. The 'zine will also feature lists of Internet sites, bulletin board systems, mailing lists, newsgroups, and net.personalities - what they have to offer, and how to get to them. This letter is being sent to a selected group of list managers/sysops as an opportunity for you to gain the attention of potentially interested parties who may not yet have a modem, Internet access, or knowledge of your site/list. If the list manager/sysop chooses, he/she may reply with any information about the site/list they manage. Please pass this message on to your group if they have projects they are working on that they'd like to describe (and even call for participation in), or artwork, music, fiction, etc. that they might like to contribute and see published. Site/list managers responding with information about their lists/groups will be included in our Online Directory section. You may include animations, samples, MIDI sequences, still images, etc. to be launched with your text entry to plug your cause. It's like free advertising! Individuals contributing original articles, reports, comic strips, artwork, music, etc. will receive a complementary copy of the 'zine. Also, the 'About the Author' section is your own personal soapbox. Include contact info, interests, rants, raves, whatever. We are also looking for multimedia 'columnists' to do monthly reports from their chosen fields of interest. If you have a good idea for a column, here's your chance to score a free subscription. If you have an interesting piece of software/hardware, music, etc. you'd like to get the word out about, ask about our reasonable advertising rates. We will be accepting product announcment/press releases, but those printed will be limited to the most interesting and useful. Also, list managers/sysops who submit interesting threads from their list/conferences will recieve free copies of the issue in which that thread is published. So if you would like to participate (or just find out how to get a copy) let us know. If you know someone who might, let them know. Use the following contact information for correspondence: Cliff Hall, Managing Editor c/o Deleriously Serious Softworks Rt 2 Box 369 Johnson City, TN 37601 INTERNET:75310.3013@compuserve.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:12:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , revar design and consulting Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: revar design and consulting Subject: Re: Call for Submissions (CD-ROM 'zine) >Also, list managers/sysops who submit interesting threads from their >list/conferences will recieve free copies of the issue in which that thread >is published. > >Cliff Hall, Managing Editor >c/o Deleriously Serious Softworks >Rt 2 Box 369 >Johnson City, TN 37601 > >INTERNET:75310.3013@compuserve.com if you publish threads without permission of each author, not only will you piss lots of people off, you may get you butt sued. dont do it, everyone owns thier own words, not the sysop of the board. And you sent out this message to hundreds, maybe thousands of people by mailing to several mailing LISTS! which is a sign of an amateur. revar@phantom.com P.S. ne-ravers dont give anything away for free to someone you dont know, put your energy back into your community, not it to his bank account. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:28:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@IUP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 3 -I'll be at Spiritual Movement III. Unfortunately, I can't offer crash -space, as I will be staying with friends myself, but I'd love to meet s -omewhere before, or if all else fails, at the event itself. Does anyone -have any ideas??? -Sean i dont have any ideas, but *hopefully* i will be going too! i would love to meet up with every one... plur michelle ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:33:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: test again PING! Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:43:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Asif Ikram Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Asif Ikram Subject: A&R looking for acid/trance In-Reply-To: <8hSsSdG00iUvA76kt1@andrew.cmu.edu> MUSIC NOW RECORDS Greetings from the East Coast If there are any music artists producing acid/trance, a new dance label based in D.C., called MUSIC NOW RECORDS, with distribution deals in the U.S., UK, & Germany, would be very interested in listening to your material. Future releases set for the next few months on the label will take it to a very high visible level. Please submit demo's(any format) to: Aden A&R MUSIC NOW RECORDS 5512 Wilkins Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15217 * Please don't send any demo's to the MUSIC NOW INT'L store in D.C., they are already swamped with tapes/records & it might get lost in the shuffle.THANX ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 15:53:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Stickers Hey, I have the last lot of NE Raves stickers now. As people order badges I am going to send out a sticker with them. When I go to a rave I will take some with me to pass out, but they supply is very small. I hope to run off a new series of badges when I have cash for it (unless someone else wants to foot the bill). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 15:31:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jessica Ire Resnick Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jessica Ire Resnick Subject: Re: Future Groove Review In-Reply-To: <199403160030.TAA28967@holmes.umd.edu> > come there. I will also be managing a new club opening on Long Island in > 3 weeks...the first night will have an unbelieveable lineup...I will comp > anyone who wants to make it there too...and if anyone of you wants to > come to Caffeine anytime soon...Ill comp you there. ***************************************************************************** hey all, i'm new, and i wanted to introduce myself. But first of all, i wanted to know something. where's the new LI club going to be? I'm from there(20 mins from caffeine) ,i'll be home in a few weeks, and i want to take advantage of the new stuff as soon as it's out there!! keep happy, jessica curly@brahms.udel.edu *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 17:31:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: living room, outlaw In-Reply-To: <199403162057.PAA04636@holmes.umd.edu> Hey all! I was wondering if anyone could hook me up with either the phone numbers or the locations of both Living Room and Outlaw and maybe who might be spinning in 2 weeks... Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:21:10 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: living room, outlaw you might also want to check out Swirl and Bliss....212-696-8938 dan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:18:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Juliane Knadle Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Juliane Knadle Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403160716.CAA00984@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 15 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Paul J Gaydos writes: > > I'M SURE THAT I GET AS MUCH FLAK FOR BEING A STRAIGHT WHITE 21-YEAR OLD MALE > > RAVER AS ANY WOMAN GETS AND AS MANY OBSTACLES. > > Meaning no disrespect, Paul, I think you're wrong. Far, far fewer people look > at > you as having no possibilities or interest except as a lay, a status symbol, or > a > convenience (housekeeper, nurse, whatever). > > You are pretty right about the difficulties in getting *anything* done, but you > still start out as being seen (usually) as a human being. > > On the other hand, you don't seem inlarge danger of being too badly > misunderstood. > While I think you are mistaken, you do not seem to have any hatred or malice at > all. > > Good luck continuing your education and maturation, > Neil ----jThank you Neil, a woman couldn't have said it better herself. We have to face the fact every day that we still live in a sexist society and can't do some of the things that men do, such as go for a walk at midnight in some citys without the high possibility of rape/mugging/murder/ and general harassment from the people in passing cars even. If some males choose not to see that , we need more people like you to enlighten them.. Julie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 21:57:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: EQUILIBRIUM 411 OK, the flyers have been out 4 a while. Howver, since the complete details haven' t made the ROM, here goes: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ United Techno's Mr.Trash Presents: E Q U I L I B R I U M 9 PM SATURDAY APRIL 2 HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT Happy Jimmy Crash Troposphere Micro Frankie Bones Space Ace Ryde Scaott Richmond Mr. Trash Pscy Joeski James Christian Visuals by: Eno One Acme Labratories Optical Delusion Smart Bar by Liquid Technology United Techno 203 646-6381 Scooter 212 631-1033 Danny Boy 617 881-3797 Alan Sanctuary 212 696-8938 Kort & Greg 516 547-7118 Eddie Van Raven 516 925-2011 Acme Labs 914 463-9350 Big Dipper 518 465-6381 Up North 914 256-0445 10X Dope 203 782-2301 Warped 203 454-6643 $15 the day of the event ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This event will take place about 20 minutes from my crib, so if U need a place 2 crash, please let me know! (I'm sure the couches are taken but I got plenty of floor space :) PEACE OUT :) MARK U KNOW WHO LOVES U BABY!! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 13:03:03 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403161548.KAA02606@holmes.umd.edu> On Wed, 16 Mar 1994, Andy Cerutti wrote: > All i got to say is that paul paul is in the muthafuckin house!! While I > may not agree with everyhting you have said paul, i think you have made a > very valid agruement, and i particulary enjoy your unabashed brashness. > I think that you post holds many, many truths and am very interested in seeing > as how jenn and many others respond. I was also impressed at the lack of name > dropping you displayed for in a topic like this and a person like yourself you > could have easily just started the name-dropping and bashing all too common > on this list. I encourage you to keep it up paul paul, balls out is the only > way to go!! especially if you want to be heard!! good work. That's right dude! Balls out all the way! Party on Wayne! Honestly all joking aside, we have had this discussion here before (months ago and came to a consensus on what needs to be done to positively change the way females are viewed in the scene. There is no reason to go over and rehash the same things again. Nor do we need to take this to the level of high school proboscius postering. I think until you have walked a mile in her shoes you cannot realistically state that there is no difference in the way women are treated. Can we end this tread now? > piece out, peace maybe? > andy c. > Joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 23:38:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: the whole thing the musci is better these days.... ha ha ha just kidding! they're the same thing acid party=rave=acid test=underground party glad to see some old-timers here! UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:17:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , chris136 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: chris136@AOL.COM Subject: d*r*e*a*m - April 30 - Nashville BAM! and ANODE present d*r*e*a*m Saturday April 30 Nashville, Tennessee ------------DJs------------ GOODWILL (Delaware) of Zenith Productions "the friendliest dj on the east coast" ODDESSY (Philadelphia) "bringing you his own tribal excursion" TERRY MULLAN (of the St. Louis Vibe Tribe) "that house person from St. Louis" CHIP B. (Nashville) "bouncin' and behavin'" Illuminate your dreams with tripindicular visual efx from MAXXIMUM SOUND & LIGHTS Fulfill your bass needs with CONCERT PRODUCTIONS LIVE Performance by Chip B featuring MARCO LIVE Dance by the NEW Real Thing Fashion Show by Retro Pieces and MONDORAMA Smart Bar by IMSMARTRU Vendors include (but not limited to): Funky Beads Inc, Stuffy Do-Rags, Mondorama, II Phunked Up, SmaK, Jsquared, Piercing by Mel ALL AGES 8pm-midnite, 18+ (with ID) midnite-6am Admission $10 - NO ALCOHOL - NO ATTITUDE Location: The CANNERY, off Eighth Avenue South Downtown Nashville Call infoline (615.780.3730) or email anodeBAM@aol.com during the two weeks before the party for detailed directions other infolines for Gathering of the VIBE tour dates & info: April 9 - Lexington - 606.281.4193 April 23 - Louisville - 502.569.1969 May 14 - Indianapolis - 317.889.8100 May 28 - St. Louis - 314.995.9299 June - Detroit - 313.730.2202 Dayton - 513.496.1071 Milwaukee - 414.777.3998 Cincinnati - 513.648.9647 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:29:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: lateminorinfractionthoughts I know this is late, but I haven't realy had net access in a few days.... Vanessa.... I'm amazed.... a microrave... at W E L L E S L E Y ? ? ? ? I can't believe it happened... I can't believe you were able to pull it off ... I can remember us last year.... lounging around in your room or mine... dreaming of throwing a mircorave at wellesley and immediately laughing it off.... Al I have to say is...... Sister, thank you for making our daydreams a reality. It was AMAZING to say the least to return to my old alma mater... I never realy cared much for Wellesley until I graduated... and realized what that school gave me... to return to the gothic playground and show my sweetie the place that I rave about all the time... sweet nostalgia... to those who saw Wellesley for the first time this past weekend, I hope you all agree that it is one of the most beautiful, if not THE most beautiful, college campus... Holding the rave at Schneider was soo perfect. Like Cat and Sprockett said , there were three floors and you could look down to the dancefloor... couches galore... the building looks like a ski chalet.. too bad the fireplace doesn't work... we could have roasted marshmallows or something Cafe Hoop aka the chill out room- darkness, bean bags, crayons, games, paper to draw on... and the sweet soothing melodies brought forth by &-roo made for a very nice relaxing atmosphere To the DJ's... thank you for bringing beautiful LOUD techno back to my ears - I rarely get to go out to raves these days and to hear the tunes at inordinate volumes was a godsend downside: the tubby Benny Hill lookin' cop who ended the vibe so abruptly... and the grouchy Schneider lady- she probably keeps her broom handle you- know-where when she's not using it to sweep. After the rave, Taylor, Becca(MA Becca :), &-Roo, Cat, Sprocket, and I went back with Vanessa to where she lives and hung about in the living room talking about the night, logging on, vraving :), and unwinding.... Vanessa, Jetta, Scirocco, VW: You can finally rest easy! :) It's done! It's over! You were a wonderful hostess :) Congrats to you and Anne-Marie for a wonderful party :) WE all enjoyed ourselves immensely, especially me, since the party was more than justa party- it was a homecoming, a return to the nest (so to speak), something I definitely needed.... I wish I had taken pictures... Fish and anyone else who took pictures- PLEASE PLEASE get the photos put on @techno so we al can see them :) I hope to see you all at PleasureDome where our beloved Neraver musicians and djs will fill our minds and our souls with their sweet sounds wfs/luffs/hugs/kisses sun(flower) tina ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:38:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Request for DJ's ATTENTION DJ's: I am assisting some people in organizing a micro-rave at Penn State Main Campus that will be thrown sometime soon. I would like to put out a request for any DJ's who could possible spin there for little to no money, just for exposure and fun. I wish I could pay some of you guys and gals if you accept, but money for this event is tight. Any takers including smart bars, lights, graphics/visuals, etc. should be directoed to me. Thanx and PLUR PaniK panik@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:41:33 EST Reply-To: Kumquat@acs.bu.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: FULL MOON RAVE ok, after much agonizing work, im finally ready to post. Saturday, April 23, 1994 Upstate NY. Gearhead & The Mission Crew Present the first in this summer's series of FULL MOON RAVES. in a location w/in one hour of albany, NY--a spot central to the entire north east, we bring you a free, Private Party underneath the stars. The space is amazing...far from society, and quite far from trouble. Surrounded on three sides by woods, and the fourth by open field for miles, and above by starry, clear skies w/o city light interference, this site is spiritual and perfect for this event. Here's how it works: limited attendance of 180. In order to gain a spot, you must get a pass from one of the designated promoters. This is not exclusively a Net event, though there will be a great net influence. All difinitive information that is not covered in this or subsequent posts will be available through the promoters by word of mouth only. The space is secure, we have the sound system (10,000watts) and dj's are tba. Most likely it will go for 12 hours: 10pm until 10am. There will be a huge bonfire, and possibly a chill out 12ft. high tee pee. Camping may be allowed, although unconfirmed at this point in time. Directions will be released 24hrs in advance to the promoters. There will be a 5$ charge per car & 15$ per van parking fee.....to cover our expenses. The passes should be available by Rites of Spring (albany, March 25th) from me personally, and the following week from the listed promoters. here are the net-affiliated promoters: PA: Jenn-Bug-smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu MA: Sprockett -kumquat@acs.bu.edu MA: Jetta vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu MA (west) Donato - donato@world.std.com RI: Speed Racer -jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu NY (west) Darshan - djesrani@center.colgate.edu NY (north) Cat - yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu NY (south) FiSH - squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb others will be added. At this point in time, PLEASE do NOT mail the above promoters in regards to obtaining passes. I have posted their names and addresses only as a means to provide general information, nothing more. Most questions will be answered by the next FMR post....have patience until then. Dj's interested in spinning... there are a FEW spots remaining. if you wish to be considered, you MUST send a tape. The only exception is if i have heard you spin before. send the tape (even if its only one side) to: Sprockett FMR demo 140 Bay State Road Box 1248 Boston, MA 02215 tapes should be in my hands no later than April 2nd. If you wish to give it to me personally, i will be at Rites of Spring, Red, and Equilibrium. thank you for your time, I hope you will decide to join us. there is always something special about a FMR. Lets make this one amazing. Sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 01:57:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: FiSH's ExCELLENT WeeKEND!! :) Whew!! What can I say, other than my weekend was simply terrific! I really don't even know where to begin: so many things happened, so many people passed before my eyes, so many places, so much music. Friday: Minor Infraction@Wellesley College ------------------------------------------------------------- It was a lovely, sunny day as I drove up the scenic Merrit Parkway in Connecticut on the way to Mark/Machine Media's house in Hartford. Finally reaching there in the late afternoon, I was greeted by the ever-friendly face of Mr. Media as we proceeded to chow down for lunch. As is customary whenever fellow vravers get together we decided to log-on for a while to see what was up, but I left after a bit to go nap to Plastikman :) We left soon thereafter, heading Wellesley-way. A few hours later, we stopped over for dinner at Nick's SeaFood and IceCream Parlor, a few miles away from the rave site. Fueled up and ready to go, we arrived at the Wellesley gates a few minutes later. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Mar 1994 23:35:49 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: Minor Infraction. A Review. :) :) Hi All! Well, this post is a little late, but I just wanted to express MY reaction to Minor Infraction! Yes!! What a great time! Despite the fact that I was fighting a cold, I had a great time! Jill and I got there about 9:30, and I IMMEADITALY started to meet people! It was amazing! The music was great, and an excellent vibe. During Sprockett's set after 11 I finally got out on the floor, and danced for the REST of his set.. The last fifteen minutes of Sprocketts set was incredible. Sorta keeping myself flanked by Bruce and Jim S at times, I really began to let go and danced and grooved like I haven't since Evolution Factory in RI. Moving all around the floor, I tried to stick around the net ravers more. (I felt less self-concoius this way.) I was pretty much out there thru most of Donato's set, then I retired downstairs to the chill out area, to hang with the soothing chillout soundz! :) My cold was whaling on me; throat was beat, and I still haven't found a cool dancing shoe yet.. My worn in Chucks were doing a number on my feet, causing blisters, and general fatigue. *ouch* I came back upstairs to witness the lights coming on, and I jumped out on the floor for a few, but then the music stopped, and all was shutdown. :( hello to EVERYBODY that I met, Bruce, Hank, Oz, Donato, Fish, Casper, and the rest of the MIT Crew, Marc (NYC) and everybody else who names have blurred into a hellish work week! (I am TERRIBLE with names, but great with faces!! :) :) ) It was great to met you all, and hope to see you all soon! I am planning on going to the underground party in central mass on Friday, if anybody in the Boston area needs a ride, mail me up! look for me there if your there! :) :) PLUR... Stef (deej) Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:49:21 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: Re[2]: women Andy Cerutti says: > balls out is the only way to go!! Uh, Andy, do you want to hink about the topic of this thread and maybe use some other idiom? Neil ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 04:02:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alx Lee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alx Lee Subject: Re: Lodging space for Red 'sup folx? If anyone still needs, I can offer crash space for Red to a few, provided you can get yerself to Boston. My place is close to the turnpike. Bring a sleepin' bag :). Also, can anyone help me on how to get a vendor table at Red or at raves in general...? Info would be SUPER appreciated. Oh, just a random thought. The other day on the radio I heard a DJ say that the rave scene was a bunch of rich white kids with nothing better to do with their time *zoink!* Well, I'm neither rich nor white, but whatev... Peace out my love brothers and sisters. Signing off from Earthdom, -alx ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 06:35:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: by jove, i think we've got it! (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 00:48:24 EST From: Mr. Ultraworld To: Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES Subject: by jove, i think we've got it! ****************************************************************** ********************************************************* ******************************************** ********************************* ********************** ************** G L O W is going to happen! We are asking all net ravers to give some VERY quick feedback on one crucial question, because you all mean so much to us. (can you hear the violins?) IF WE DO GLOW ON SATURDAY MAY 14, IS EVERYBODY GOING TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF FINALS? IF WE CAN'T HELP BUT DO IT ON THAT DATE, WILL YOU ALL SAY SCREW FINALS? :) sorry about having to shout, but our last call for feedback went relatively unnoticed. time is of the essence, we need to apply for a permit by friday of this week. "... peace to all the swim fishes in the tank." from the bridge of the U.8.X. ****************************************************************** at any rate, on any date, GLOW will consist of: the Reaction Chamber the Phat room DJ SUN OSHEEN SCOTT HENRY F I L ASTROBOY TERRY MULLEN DAVID J + 2 MORE T.B.A. GREG SEARGENT + 2 MORE T.B.A. the COOLANT AREA ENTITY \ ____ LIVE AMBIENT WORDMOSES / + 2 MORE T.B.A. the GOODIES: 10 WATT LASER INTELLIBEAMS IN ONE ARENA GOLDSCANS IN THE OTHER + MORE COOL LIGHTING SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE MIND MACHINES SMART BAR LIVE VISUALS BY DOUBLE HELIX COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROJECTIONS SERIOUS BLACK LIGHTING (get yer clothes ready!) 1000 FREE GLOWSTICKS (multi-colored army issue!) FREE AFTER PARTY from 9 am - 2 pm 2000 of your closest friends. God i love this shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! See ya at the raves * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 08:22:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: boy, how elitist ! that FMR in albany sounds like a bunch of crap! only 180 people allowed! next time i'm in Boston, i'll throw an underground party and invite 10 people, how's that for you? UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 08:27:13 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: by jove, i think we've got it! (fwd) A 10 WATT LASER!!!!! if i go, i'm wearing body armour and some thick-as-hell laser goggles! i've worked with laserss before, and 10 WATTS(!) is a lot so, if you see me there, i'll be the one hiding from that 10W monster... probably under a car :) UP-tempo!.... that's old..... "Amsterdam... Waar Lech Dat Dan?" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 09:57:37 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: boy, how elitist In-Reply-To: <9403171338.AA199536@acs.bu.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 17, 94 8:22 am > > ! > that FMR in albany sounds like a bunch of crap! > only 180 people allowed! > next time i'm in Boston, i'll throw an underground party and invite > 10 people, how's that for you? > > UP-tempo! > > 1000 > Boy, how PLUREY. i dont think ive ever met someone who oozes as much love as you do. thanks for your overwhelming support of our endeavor. ever hear of that saying: if you cant say something positive, don't say anthing guess not. I feel truly sorry for you, my friend....such a pessimistic outlook judging and not even caring to know what you are judging about. FYI we are only allowed to have 200 people on the site. id rather offer those spots to people here on the net, like yourself, before i offer them to random people that i dont know will appreciate it. Next time man, think about whose toes gou are gonna step on before you jump... peace, love, unity and respect to ya... sprockett (i thought *everyone* might find interest in this, that's why i sent it to the list) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 10:14:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Brian J Goddard Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Brian J Goddard "SUB CALENDAR" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 13:06:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: by jove, i think we've got it! (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199403171136.GAA08492@holmes.umd.edu> Hmm.... (quickly checks his calendar) I will be in finals, but my next one is on the 16th, so I may try to make it anyway. -Sean ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 08:35:35 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , matt.george@HOFBBS.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Organization: House Of Files BBS 516-938-6722 Subject: Living room, outlaw Ne> Hey all! Ne> I was wondering if anyone could hook me up with either the phone Ne> numbers or the locations of both Living Room and Outlaw and maybe who Ne> might be spinning in 2 weeks... Ne> Peace, Ne> Jennifer Smeddy Ne> Jenn-bug Scotto's #, 212-330-8233 should give u all the info u need. Dj's are usually never announced two weeks in advance but u might catch Moby at the Living Room as he's been spinning there quite often.But then again u might want to check out the club Spam's promoting in the island...minus his partner?? :( we hope. plur, matt ... Click ... click ... click ... damn, out of taglines! --- Blue Wave/QWK v2.10 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:17:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: boy, how elitist part II doesn't the rave culture have something to do with being open and receptive to new ideas and new people???? hmmmmmmmmm? last time i checked, raves were not private parties set up for only a few people who knew a few certain people who knew where what was going on wherere at what time. by a bunch of crap, i mean that the event is a PIRVASTE DJ DANCE PARTY, not a rave in the classical sense. agree alles? "Amsterdam... Waar Lech Dat Dan?" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:27:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: By Jove, Glow number 2 I just heard that Glow has been postponed to May 21st, so that should outdistance most of your finals. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:35:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Re[2]: women In-Reply-To: <199403170852.DAA08331@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 17 Mar 1994, Neil Rest wrote: > Andy Cerutti says: > > balls out is the only way to go!! > > Uh, Andy, do you want to hink about the topic of this thread and maybe use > some other idiom? I was thinking the same thing Neil. Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:36:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: By Jove, Glow number 2 yayyyyyyyy, glow was postponed! i can make it now ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:42:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: boy, how elitist In-Reply-To: <199403171324.IAA08724@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 17 Mar 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > that FMR in albany sounds like a bunch of crap! Sorry that it is not going to have 2,000,000 people and all the added bullshit... this party is trying to promote the Underground not comercialism... ----------- get it?? Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:58:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: boy, how elitist part II In-Reply-To: <199403172119.QAA11868@holmes.umd.edu> from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 17, 94 04:17:42 pm > last time i checked, raves were not private parties set up for only > a few people who knew a few certain people who knew where what was going > on wherere at what time. Umm, unless you plug specific numbers into that, that's *exactly* what they are: 1. You have to find out about it 2. You have to find out where to get tickets 3. You have to find the map point 4. You have to find the location 5. You have to want this enough to deal with whatever conditions prevail You don't find out about them the way you find out about clubs or concerts. They're private in every sense of the word this side of a membership list. BUT, just because they're privately run does not make them exclusionary or elitist. For that matter, what would be *your* idea of a non-elitist party? They've said that their space is limited. Are they supposed to shell out money they don't have to get a space that's big enough to hold as many people as could theoretically be trucked in? These people are busting their butts to throw a good party and I don't see you raising your hand to help, so I don't think you're in any posi- tion to criticize. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 17:39:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: boy, how elitist part II Fuck Fuck Fuck...Piss piss piss!!. Fuckin' Nag, Nag, Nag!!! that's all I hear in the last four messages I've gotton. Please shut the fuck up unless you've got something informative to say. Are you mad because no one invited you to an event? Are you pissed off at the promoters because they placed a limit on the amount of people that can attend THEIR event? simple solution: Don't go. You don't want to be associated with what you concider to be exclusive or elitest, so don't attend. No ones asking you. It just means that I'll have an easier time getting an extra pass for my girlfriend. Flamingly, Dave ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:42:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: boy, how elitist part II In-Reply-To: <199403172119.QAA11868@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 17 Mar 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > doesn't the rave culture have something to do with being open and receptive > to new ideas and new people???? hmmmmmmmmm? yes. > last time i checked, raves were not private parties set up for only > a few people who knew a few certain people who knew where what was going > on wherere at what time. gee, you've either never been to a real underground party, or else the people are really open in your town. the first thing about raves is that they're hidden! its an *underground* scene! what you wrote above is the correct definition of an underground rave. congrats. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 18:59:45 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: elitism I have to side with Sprockett on this one (and not just cuz i'm a promoter :) We had a similar discusssion on this elitism thread a while back, when GB announced his Net-party/invite-only thing in Ohio. I don't think it's elitist to want to invite people who really want to be at the party, and making it invite only is one way. besides, 180 tix is WAY more than the number of NE-ravers who will ever show up, so what's the problem? I'd rather see a little 'selective attendance' than some of the folks i've seen at some events i've been to. i'm not trying to flame anyone excessively here, but as Sprockett said, if you think it's elitist, don't come - quite simple. peace, FiSH (having a weird week) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:02:20 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: boy, how elitist part II Yeah, yeah, but raves happen in places with inflexible physical dimensions, and if someone for some reason chooses, or gets stuck with, a small space, it only holds a small number of people. I don't know if you are right or wrong about this specific case, but _I_ don't have enough information to know. Respect includes a little slowness to judge harshly. Amsterdam *what*? Neil ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:10:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Selway Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: small parties are usually more fun and large parties are good only if they are done right. just my two cents... SPY ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:40:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sandra L Van Aken Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sandra L Van Aken Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 3 In-Reply-To: <199403152202.RAA27799@holmes.umd.edu> just wanted to let you know that i will be going to spiritual movement three...i will be going down to d.c. on friday so i will be there if anyone wanted to meet up before the event...i can't offer crash space but some of my friends may have some room so i will have to see love, sandy aka good vibe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 19:44:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: FiSH's ExCEllENT Weekend (attempt #3) Whew!! What can I say, other than my weekend was simply terrific! I really don't even know where to begin: so many things happened, so many people passed before my eyes, so many places, so much music. Friday: Minor Infraction@Wellesley College ------------------------------------------------------------- It was a lovely, sunny day as I drove up the scenic Merrit Parkway in Connecticut on the way to Mark/Machine Media's house in Hartford. Finally reaching there in the late afternoon, I was greeted by the ever-friendly face of Mr. Media as we proceeded to chow down for lunch. As is customary whenever fellow vravers get together we decided to log-on for a while to see what was up, but I left after a bit to go nap to Plastikman :) We left soon thereafter, heading Wellesley-way. A few hours later, we stopped over for dinner at Nick's SeaFood and IceCream Parlor, a few miles away from the rave site. Fueled up and ready to go, we arrived at the Wellesley gates a few minutes later. [ Minor Infraction was a small microrave held at the Schneider Student Center on the campus of Wellesley College, Massachussetts. Essentially a place for students to hold small gatherings and club meetings, the Center has a small dance-worthy lobby space surrounded by carpetted walkways on one side, a platform facing the floor, and upper balconies which afford interesting views of the dance floor from above. A cafeteria stand was to the far side of the floor, and unfortunately this was flooding a lot of light onto the main area. However, this meant that everyone could still get a bite to eat before the evenings proceedings began. No $1000-a-night DJ's, no 50,000 watt sound system, no wall-high projections. What this party did have instead, was a lovely bunch of happy vibey folks ready to have a good time to good music, and after all, isn't that what counts? A couple of strobe lights, a few colored lamps and some black- lights around the smart bar were all this microrave needed, not to mention a suitably-sized sound system (alliterate this!). Downstairs, the other half of the party was going on. In the groovey little cafe known as The Hoop, DJ Roo, fresh-faced and wild-eyed from Cincinnati was spinning his ambient yarns. Throughout the night, many were found down in this darkened room, lying on beanbags, writing on the crayon walls, playing with PowerBooks :^) The crowd that night was a rather interesting blend of curious college kids and RealRavers (tm). Around about midnight the party really clicked into high gear, and The musical flavors in the main room upstairs progressed from trance and techno,(chris mellow, jimmy hat, f(x)) to housey grooves (donato, sprockett) and finished up again with more trance (oz). Though we had all the elements necessary to keep this party moving till the wee hours, the powers-that-be had other plans for this little micro. In the middle of Oz's set, around 2:00am, the lights were turned on and campus police began to appear on the scene calling for an end to the festivities. It was good to see people continue to dance for quite a while after the lights came on, however. As someone else mentioned, this was an indication of the vibe that was present in the room that night - something that strong can't just be shut off like a switch. Obeying the urgings of the authorities, the party came to a close soon afterwards, as we all said our goodbyes as quickly as we could. ] Massive thanks to Vanessa-Jetta for putting on this great little party and getting us all together, to Jessica Owley who was exceeding kind to two complete strangers by giving us crash space and a lovely breakfast the next morning and great company talking into the wee hours, to everyone who showed up and helped to make this a possibility. My FiSH hat is off to you all. NE-ravers roll call: -------------------------- Jetta Tina Taylor Hank Jill Jeannie ChrisMellow AndrewBennett Mark FiSH Becca Sprockett Cathy JimmyHat JohnAdams Pholida Bill Oz Jessica Donato DaveSklar Trevor Tasha Bruce BenKodomo Casper JenBerry Michelle Stefan JimSexton Saturday: Pre-Party and Future Groove ------------------------------------------------------ Saturday was yet another cheerful spring day. Birds chirping, sun beaming, snow melting, the whole bit. After breakfast at Jessica's dorm, Mark and I headed to Boston to pick up tickets for Red at Allston Beat. Never having been in Boston before, I must say from first impressions that it looks like a place I'd like to hang out more in. I'll be back :) The drive back to my Long Island home wasn't quite as cheerful, however. After a harrowing 6 hours in traffic, Mark and I finally arrived at my doorstep and prepared for people to arrive for the little pizza-pre-party I was having before Future Groove. I slipped out for a few minutes to get food for everyone, and came back to see ChrisMellow, Jeannie, Pholida and Bill making merry. We kicked the pre-party off with a round of Camillo's Pizza and assorted music from my measly selection, but as we were all pooped from the drive, we killed the lights, spread out some blankies, and relaxed to some ambient worldbeat. Pretty soon we were joined by the rest of the pre-party people: Dan, BeccaMD and DerekTiffany, Sprockett, Cathy, Trevor and Star. It was nice to see people having a good time, though next time I promise I'll make better seating arrangements :^) Pictures at ten. Almost everyone left the pre-party at around 11:00, but I needed to clean up and shower before, so I stayed behind. Lucky move, as it turned out, because who should show up at my door at 11:45 but my evil twin, JP3/SpeedRacer! After getting myself ready, we embarked on what should have been a hop-skip-and-a-jump. Unfortunately, my brain-dead state at that time and the somewhat sketchy directions led us to a 2 hour wild rave chase, leading us back to my place to call the info-line (the CORRECT one, since we only had the typo'ed number). Finally we arrived there at around 2:30am. Humble apologies to Joe and Mark for this, free kick in the butt for you both :^) Future Groove: -------------------- [ Future Groove was held in a medium-sized warehouse at an industrial park in Ronkonkoma, Long Island. Though the place appeared relatively far from any possible neighbourhood disturbances, there were police cars outside the site. One of the officers warned us not to hang around, and to keep on walking. We obliged, walking briskly on the cold dark gravel roads of the park looking for any possible rave-activity. As people often do when trying to locate a rave-site, Mark, Joe and I headed towards the thump and found the entrance soon enough. Security was not too bad - a cursory shuffle through the bags, and then a quick frisk. One really good thing about Brookyln and Long Island events I have to say, is the food and water policy - I've grown so sick of going to events where you have to dump your rave necessities at the door just for the sake of increasing the promoters' profit margin (Essence IV and Nebula spring to mind). Having said this, I applaud anyone who lets you bring in food and water, and yet makes these things available inside as well. Inside the warehouse was pretty damp and foggy. The floor was slick with moisture, and the air was clammy. To the far side of the warehouse was the speaker stack, with a few lights and a laser. Acoustically, it was not the best setup, since the sound didn't seem very well distributed throughout the room. Stalls were lined up towards the exit: the Liquid Technology SmartBar, ChaosLite T-shirts, Trilobite SnoCones and others. As I walked around for a while, I noticed a small sign near a side door saying 'New Talent Room'. I wandered in and came upon what appeared to be the bathrooms, chill-out areas and a rather small carpetted room where turntables and a small sound system were set up, no lights except for dim room lighting. A group of people were crowding around the tables and it was hard to see what was going on, but I only heard some rather mediocre rap/hip-hop being played and so went out to explore and talk to people. Perhaps it was just my extreme exhaustion at that point, perhaps it was the tension of getting lost, the thought of having to go somewhere early the next morning or simply that I didn't really get into the music being played that night. Whatever it was, I didn't really experience much of a positive energy grabbing hold of me that night. Had it not been for the opportunity to meet up with old friends and meet new ones, I would have been quite disappointed with the way this party was proceeding. Walking around, I can honestly say that less than 30 people in the whole place were dancing: those die-hards who were near the back of the room, next to the speakers, though there must have been a few hundred people there. I headed back in to the other room, where the music being played was really much more to my liking. In fact, I think this party would have taken a turn for the better if the 'new talent' DJ's were allowed to spin outside in the main area. I danced for a while as the crowd in the small room had started to clear, but my poor body couldn't take much more abuse, so I had to sit down. I listened to some really nice stuff played by Sprockett, Derek and Will-E, though I missed Damian, Oz and ChrisMellow's sets. I finally decided to pack it in at 5:30, and hugged goodbye to everyone I could before I left. While some folks have flamed Spam/Chris for this party, I'd like to believe that he really did become a victim of circumstance, and give him the benefit of the doubt. Let's all move on and chalk this up as a learning experience, so we can do it right in the future. Future Groove II? ] NE-Ravers represent :) --------------------------------- FiSH Mark BobBaxter JP3 Pholida Bill Phil-Z Will-E Jacob Danarchy Trevor BeccaMD DerekTiffany China PeppermintPatty MistressLoretta Sprockett Cathy Star Kara Vasil Oz Damian DavidDarrow Jeannie ChrisMellow JennBug Mars .... and of course Spam :) S E E Y O U A L L A T R E D ! ! ! ! ps. JeNN-BuG! the stuff in [ ... ] is for Z00M so feel free to yank it out and paste it in. peace. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 20:14:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: b.j. i think we've changed it! (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 15:59:22 EST From: Mr. Ultraworld To: Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES Subject: b.j. i think we've changed it! all right, here we go again. THE NEW DATE FOR GLOW, WRITTEN IN ERASABLE INK. SATURDAY MAY 21st or do you think everybody will be on vacation somewhere (just kidding) that's it, that's the date, the city has our application for a permit, so it's up to them. i remembered this morning that the essence crew had told me about that date, so we went ahead with the 21st. thanks for all the feedback. dc and ne ravers please remember we don't receive all of the posts yet (though that may soon change) so you need to post us directly to have us get your mail. mw ravers, ya'll are cool as shit in a freezer! peace lonnie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 21:04:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer Subject: your event In-Reply-To: <199403170539.AAA08070@holmes.umd.edu> from "DJ PaniK" at Mar 17, 94 00:38:59 am panik, > I am assisting some people in organizing a micro-rave at Penn State Main > Campus that will be thrown sometime soon. I would like to put out a > request for any DJ's who could possible spin there for little to no > money, just for exposure and fun. I wish I could pay some of you guys > and gals if you accept, but money for this event is tight. Any takers > including smart bars, lights, graphics/visuals, etc. should be directoed > to me. Thanx and PLUR if you can pay me for gas and tolls...ill be there. money is tight for me too, but i want to hang out a bit :) if possible, email me back... damian ------ its all about the vibe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 21:40:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: boy, how elitist part II Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 17-MAR-94 21:33 >From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU >Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 16:17:42 -0400 >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >doesn't the rave culture have something to do with being open and receptive >to new ideas and new people???? hmmmmmmmmm? >last time i checked, raves were not private parties set up for only >a few people who knew a few certain people who knew where what was going >on wherere at what time. >by a bunch of crap, i mean that the event is a PIRVASTE DJ DANCE PARTY, not a > rave in >the classical sense. >agree alles? > >"Amsterdam... Waar Lech Dat Dan?" > >1000 >--- No, a rave in the classical sense would be an almost private Dj party. When only a few people know about it, it isnt because some one doesnt want other people there, it is the number of people that matters. If it is permit-less and outlaw, then the number of people to insure a non-bust is VERY important. The smaller, less commercial parties are the REAL raves, and that is where the REAL plur comes out. The best vibes are found at small parties with cheesy lights and cheesy sound but great people and great music. And for those of you interested in such a party in the DC area April 2nd MUSE Productions presents PURE UNDERGROUND An outdoor outlaw party for DC in the Old School Style Dj's Suzy Cyclone, MUSE, DC Jester, the Vault, DC Bleu, North Carolina, FEVER DJ Comp. Finalist Rob Gardner, DC MkW, MUSE, DC Will be under a bridge in the District Call 703-213-1751 for mo' info There will be an afterhours by PROTON Productions at the Chamber of Sound Dj's to be announced peace john ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Mar 1994 22:39:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@IUP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement 3 shit... i didnt mean this to go to everyone... but... sandy... if you get this before friday afternoon... give me your # and i will call you sometime before we get to baltomore... and maybe we can hang out??? thanx hugs plur michelle ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 00:13:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , susan lyon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: susan lyon Subject: subscribe sub discuss thanks. :) ------------------------------------------------------------- | "are there any monsters under my bed tonight?" | from | | "no." "nope." "no." | susan | | "if there *were* any monsters under my bed, | a.k.a. | | how big would they be?" | mozzer@ | | "very small. go to sleep." | umich. | | --from "calvin and hobbes" | edu.usa | ------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 09:59:03 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: bPa in dc Hey, Cyber peoples, While not rave related, it is related to the list. I am Stephen, boyPrincealbert, raving queer from Philly. I will be spending the day in Washington DC tomorrow, and if possible, maybe I could see some of you netters who live further south. South compared to philly. I am spending the entire day at the national gallery at the Egon Scheile show. If someone wants to meet me, give me a personal email (I am not getting the list right now) with info about time and place. I will be at the mall all day, and possible would like to visit Dupont Circle, aka, the fruit loop. Here's sending you all my pierced love, be well, bPa ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:04:42 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: bPa's address Ooops, I didn't tell anyone how to contact me if interested in meeting up in DC! This is bPa: stephen email at houghton@mail.sas.upenn.edu phone 731-9918 or 663-1977, both area code 215. be well, bPa ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 10:50:45 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: FMR p.c. correction very quick, and the only thing more im gonna say about this thread: if anyone has any :"new ideas" *please* mail me. I am "open and receptive to new ideas and new people." any help is appreciated!!!!! if this shouldnt be called FULL MOON RAVE, then call it whatever you want. the name is not important to me. "FULL MOON RAVE" is already on the passes, and that's not gonna change, but if anyone wants to call it: "PRIVATE DJ PARTY DURING A FULL MOON", be my guest ;P everything is looking totally *fabulous* for this "event" (is that pc?). I realistically looked at the dimentions of the space, and the number of people and we're gonna use a 3,000watt sound system...the only change as of yet if anyone is interested in promoting in the NYC and or the poughkeepsie areas, i still havent figured those out yet. ill shut up now. sorry to waste the bandwidth. wnough has been said about this already. i think everyone has heard all that needs to be said about it for now. thanks for your love and support! sprockett (open to newideas and new people) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:28:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: Re: full-moon rave I don't know....maybe it's just me, but when I have gone to small or relatively small events, I have the most amazing time. Vibe, Plur, etcetera, is all there. I have really never enjoyed myself at large events; be it waiting on line for Essence IV, or going to Fantasy Project, I am very glad Sprockett has invited ___us___ to go to this event. I _do_ hope I see lots of _us_ there, as I have met only a handful of you, yet I feel close to all of you. Yes, there might be only 180 tickets, but these tickets have been offered to our _family_!!!! can Sprockett help if only 200 people are allowed? I'm sure he didn't say: "hmmm...lets find a space that we can only invite 200 people to." Let's please just look forward to this event, not criticize it or him for inviting us. We should feel special, and we should all be very happy that he thought of us first... -Akeera, not mad, and sorry if I sound it. :) btw-Sprockett::--> if I am able to drive there myself, I will definitely help out.... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:46:14 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Mills Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Mills Subject: knowledge by sight. In-Reply-To: from "Stephen P. Houghton" at Mar 18, 94 9:59 am all plus --- zoe and i are coming to SMIII and we wanna be sure to meet poeple of the net since we're new to the net and the scene of the NE. do many wear the badges? ding. mooovin --- nodog ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 14:22:31 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: knowledge by sight. In-Reply-To: <9403181745.AA08516@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Andy Mills" at Mar 18, 94 12:46 pm Hey, if i make it to SMIII ill be wearing my old school ne-raves badge the one that is green and pink on the back. ill proboably be wearing a weeblos (like cub scout hat) that is blue so if you see me say "Hi!" p.s. im still looking for a ride though :) willing to chip in expenses/costs and all that doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:15:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Woosta Underground tonight Hi all, Just an update about tonight's party... Like any good party, the first space fell through (last night!) :) :(. We're scrambling to find another right now, but it's very possible that the party may not happen tonight. Stay tuned to ne-raves or call 617-424-7183 tonight after 7 or so to see what's up. Anyone who's interested in going will be kept well informed whether it goes off tonight or not. cross your finger! later dave. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:29:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Veronica E. Martins" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Veronica E. Martins" Subject: PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME xxxx x xxx x x x x x x x xxxx x xxx xxx x x x x x x xxx xxx x x xxxx x x xxx xxxxx x x x x x x xxxx x x xxx xxxxx x x x xx x xxxx xxx x x xxxxx xxx xxx x x xxx x x x x xx xx x x x x x x x x xxx x x x x x x x xxx xxx x x xxx SATURDAY APRIL 9 1994 BALTIMORE WASHINGTON ANNAPOLIS *** Pleasuredome94 *** In an effort to groove you to ultimate sadistic pleasure, we have assembled 30 Techno marksmen from around the globe taking part in a three ring circus of sound, illumination and trance-endence. Live on Stage 1: BABY FORD - Exclusive and direct from London UK PROTOTYPE909 - Instinct Records NY 1.8.7 - High Voltage Pittsburgh DAVE ANGEL - Exclusive and direct - R&S Records London UK COLIN FAVER - Exclusive and direct - KISS FM/Deep Space UK KEOKI - Disco2000 NY DMITRY - Deee Lite NY Jason Jinx - NASA NY DJ Gerret - Humate/Superstition Records GDR Rob Dyno - Energizer BALT. James Christian - Future Shock NY Greg Sargent - Magic 3 Beyond BALT. Speed Demon - Thermonuke DC Stage 2: Kieth Kennebeck - Energizer GDR On-e - NASA/Deee Lite NY Who - Move DC Sketti - Phat DC Lee - Natural PHILLY Oddessy - BBC PHILLY David J - MusicNow DC Karl Matthews - DC House Project DC Bobble - Sonic Soul BALT. Double 07 - D.O.G. DC Michael C - DC Stage 3: Mr. Kleen - Sputnik/NET NY DJ Reese - Astralwerks NY Dietrich - Prototype909/Instinct NY Acid - Spacenet DC LG - Sonic Soul BALT. Sun - Ultraworld BALT. Trevor Lamont - Zenith DELAWARE Tiff & Method1 - Live Ambience/TranceFused RICH. MKW - Muse DC J.R. Humphrey - North Carolina Travel accomodations: Super Travel NY Mutual Travel SEATTLE Booking: Dy.Na.Mix SAN FRANCISCO/UK Happy Colors NY Lights and booming bass effects by Apple Sound and lighting BALTIMORE Ticket Sales: MusicNow - DC 202-638-3272 Modern Music - BALT. 410-523-1882 Zenith - DELAWARE 302-764-9272 BBC - PHILLY 215-592-1415 Advance sales will be limited to 1000 tickets spread through these 4 locations. All other tickets may be purchased at the venue on the night of the event. Advanced tickets will be available up to Wednesday, April 6 store closing. Advanced $17, $20 otherwize - not a bad price for such quality artists. If you need a flyer or bus trip info, contact the information lines or e-mail to PLASMA1000@aol.com INFO LINES: DC 202-452-7662 BALT. 410-347-1460 A portion of the proceeds from this event will be donated to Stop the Aids and the Urban League. Doors open at 9:30 pm - the festivities will continue until the last person leaves. Please- No graffitti, glass, alcohol or illicit substances. This event is open to all ages, creeds genders, nationalities, sexual preferences, dielects, and headwear types. Vendors welcome- just purchase a ticket. Free techno/trance/house tapes courtesy of Instinct Records - limited supplies. PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME *************************************************** A colaboration of Energizer, Plasma, Sandman and Apple productions....... SEE YOU THERE ..... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 15:46:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME In-Reply-To: <199403182029.PAA18474@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 18 Mar 1994, Veronica E. Martins wrote: > xxxx x xxx x > x x x x x x > xxxx x xxx xxx > x x x x x > x xxx xxx x x > > xxxx x x xxx xxxxx > x x x x x x > xxxx x x xxx xxxxx > x x x xx x > xxxx xxx x x xxxxx > > xxx xxx x x xxx > x x x x xx xx x > x x x x x x x xxx > x x x x x x x > xxx xxx x x xxx > > SATURDAY APRIL 9 1994 > > BALTIMORE WASHINGTON ANNAPOLIS > > *** Pleasuredome94 *** > > In an effort to groove you to ultimate sadistic > pleasure, we have assembled 30 Techno marksmen > from around the globe taking part in a three ring > circus of sound, illumination and trance-endence. > > Live on Stage 1: > > BABY FORD - Exclusive and direct from London UK > PROTOTYPE909 - Instinct Records NY > 1.8.7 - High Voltage Pittsburgh > > DAVE ANGEL - Exclusive and direct - R&S Records London UK > COLIN FAVER - Exclusive and direct - KISS FM/Deep Space UK > KEOKI - Disco2000 NY > DMITRY - Deee Lite NY > Jason Jinx - NASA NY > DJ Gerret - Humate/Superstition Records GDR > Rob Dyno - Energizer BALT. > James Christian - Future Shock NY > Greg Sargent - Magic 3 Beyond BALT. > Speed Demon - Thermonuke DC > > Stage 2: > > Kieth Kennebeck - Energizer GDR > On-e - NASA/Deee Lite NY > Who - Move DC > Sketti - Phat DC > Lee - Natural PHILLY > Oddessy - BBC PHILLY > David J - MusicNow DC > Karl Matthews - DC House Project DC > Bobble - Sonic Soul BALT. > Double 07 - D.O.G. DC > Michael C - DC > > Stage 3: > > Mr. Kleen - Sputnik/NET NY > DJ Reese - Astralwerks NY > Dietrich - Prototype909/Instinct NY > Acid - Spacenet DC > LG - Sonic Soul BALT. > Sun - Ultraworld BALT. > Trevor Lamont - Zenith DELAWARE > Tiff & Method1 - Live Ambience/TranceFused RICH. > MKW - Muse DC > J.R. > Humphrey - North Carolina > > Travel accomodations: > Super Travel NY > Mutual Travel SEATTLE > > Booking: > Dy.Na.Mix SAN FRANCISCO/UK > Happy Colors NY > > Lights and booming bass effects by Apple Sound and > lighting BALTIMORE you forgot... Smart bar by: Liquid technology ;) (got that great COLOR logo from david darrow and you didn't even notice) hehehe peace all, jennifer smeddy jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 17:38:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Woosta Underground tonight It ain't happening tonight... ...maybe tomorrow, stay tuned... dave. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 21:10:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: gosh, i'm sorry! i didn't think that everyone would jump on that so harshly, didn't mean to offend anyone, but i don't see the underground being supported if a few hundred thousand members of the underground NOT being allowed to attend. all the DJs at the FMR are highly talented individuals, and i sincerely think that they can probably out-mix me anytime (maybe, he he) :) but........... next time anyone plans a party to support the underground, think of letting a few members of the underground attend. believe me...... i'm pretty far under as it goes..... i haven't seen "daylight" in ages.... he he he he he he he he he he he. "Amsterdam.... Waar Lech Dat Dan?" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 21:13:41 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: boy, how elitist part II read my next posting... "gosh, i'm sorry" no hard feelings :) "amsterdam... Waar Lech Dat Dan?" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 16:48:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gareth Spor Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Boy lives From: Gareth Spor Organization: The Works BBS - Informational Archives - Est. 1985 Subject: raves I was told this address by someone, what is this, are you a person or like an infobot? whatever, I would really like to go to a rave but I don't have access to info on them. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 22:31:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: gosh, i'm sorry! In-Reply-To: <199403190211.VAA20546@holmes.umd.edu>; from "ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU" at Mar 18, 94 9:10 pm > > i didn't think that everyone would jump on that so harshly, > didn't mean to offend anyone, but i don't see the underground being > supported if a few hundred thousand members of the underground NOT being ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i don't understand either, i'm afraid. see below. > allowed to attend. > all the DJs at the FMR are highly talented individuals, and i sincerely > think that they can probably out-mix me anytime (maybe, he he) :) > but........... > next time anyone plans a party to support the underground, think of > letting a few members of the underground attend. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ exactly what we're doing, robin. > "Amsterdam.... Waar Lech Dat Dan?" > > 1000 > sprockett already said that the space for the party was limited due to things beyond his control. end of story. Peace, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 05:32:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , lindaleigh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: lindaleigh@AOL.COM Subject: SP 3 Hi All !! I know I'm posting late about it, but Rob and I will be going to Baltimore for Spirtual Movement III -- Hey, will Moby really be spining? Hmmmm....Well, any chance to hear Ritchie Hawtin again...His set at Essence 4 'done me right' Will there be a after, does anyone know? We're hoping to stay in Baltimore long enough into Sunday so we can git some of them claw critters and have ourselves a crab feast when we get back to Philly! Hope to 'dance' into some of you there! Linda ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 10:51:10 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Found a scarf Hi kids, somebody left a dark green/black/brown striped cashmere/wool scarf at my place last weekend during the pre-party i presume. get in touch with me if it's yours, and we'll talk about how to get it back to you. peace, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 10:57:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: raves Y E S W E A R E T H E R O B O T S W E L C O M E A B O A RD :) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 11:44:17 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tikki Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tikki Organization: New and Improved Pupation Subject: Re: gosh, i'm sorry! All I have to say about these various postings has been said - but look Mr Underground kid, what are you upset about? You are not being excluded per se, because chances to attend FMR's go to net ravers first, no? and so, you could go if you wanted. now, if you wanted to bring 1,000 of your friends, you could just throw your own rave. c'mon, you are quibbling with the wrong group of "elitists." and quibbling isn't what it is about anyhow. have fun in life, make it better! -Hades ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 11:50:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: gosh, i'm sorry! In-Reply-To: <199403190211.VAA20546@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 18 Mar 1994 ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU wrote: > next time anyone plans a party to support the underground, think of > letting a few members of the underground attend. isn't this what sprockett's doing? i always have thought that if you don't like how the underground raves are kept sort of secret, then throw your own parties. of course, i've never thrown my own party but i guess if i ever got as steamed as you seem, i think i would. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 12:03:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: so, im lame.. ..but could someone resend me a copy of the latest ROM? thanks. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 12:43:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: knowledge by sight. In-Reply-To: <199403181746.MAA16936@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 18 Mar 1994, Andy Mills 'nodog' wrote: > zoe and i are coming to SMIII and we wanna be sure to meet poeple of the > net since we're new to the net and the scene of the NE. do many wear > the badges? ding. Okay, Allison and I will be there tonight. We should be reasonably early to avoid the sell out that is doubtless going to happen. I will be a tall guy, long (below the shoulder) brown hair, goatee on the face, wearing my NE Raves badges on the side of my pants, general ravey gear (whatevah) but the very small brown backpack I wear is probably the most distinguishing item. Allison is about 5'6", short brown hair, beautiful (sigh). I should be bopping around, and if you run into me I will introduce you to whoever else I see in attendance. :) I was going to send this directly to nodog, but I figured any other new folks coming to the rave might want to look for me so I could hook you folks up. :) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 12:55:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: PLEASUREDOME PLE... Jen- Sorry I forgot about you -- All respects are due.... Love Plasma1000 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 16:55:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Woosta's Acid Underground... **** Saturday MARCH 19th **** Worcester, MA Party starts at 11pm ANOTHER HARD ACID TRANCE PARTY! * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Dave (Boston) * Sprocket (Boston) * Howie (Woosta Underground) * Chewbacca (NH) Cost: FREE DIRECTIONS: (INFO LINE: 617-424-7183) from Boston: Take Mass Pike (90) West to 290 East (Exit 10). Take 290 East to Exit 17(?) - it's the Rt. 9/Westboro Exit. Take a RIGHT off of the exit and after the store 24 take a right onto Eastern Ave. The party is at 41 Eastern Ave (on your left). Park on the street. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 17:51:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rid Of Me Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rid Of Me Subject: Meeting space at RED? So, has anybody set up a spot where all of us'll be meeting at RED??? I'm really looking forward to seeing the ne-raves crew together again... -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOrbital ToriAmoSmithereenSarahBrightmaNirvana ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:55:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Subject: RED picnic hey everyone neith is listed on the HOM as organizing a pre party, but she can't do it anymore so she asked me to try to organize something fish suggested a picnic, i used to live in fitchburg and still have family there who i'm sure would let us use their backyard for a picnic but i would like a rough estimate of how many people to expect if you are interested drop me some email jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu *hugs* jill ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 18:58:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Woosta Underground party (UPDATE) Sorry for the late correction, BUT... **** Saturday MARCH 19th **** Worcester, MA Party starts at 11pm ANOTHER HARD ACID TRANCE PARTY! * Joel (Woosta Underground) * Dave (Boston) * Sprocket (Boston) * Howie (Woosta Underground) * Chewbacca (NH) Cost: FREE DIRECTIONS: (INFO LINE: 617-424-7183) from Boston: Take Mass Pike (90) West to 290 East (Exit 10). Take 290 East to Exit 17(?) - it's the Rt. 9/Westboro Exit. Take a RIGHT off of the exit and after the store 24 take a right onto Eastern Ave. The party is at 97 Eastern Ave (on your left). ^^ Park on the street. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 22:38:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: gosh, i'm sorry! In-Reply-To: <199403190211.VAA20546@holmes.umd.edu> ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU writes: > next time anyone plans a party to support the underground, think of > letting a few members of the underground attend. > i think you are missing the point... one doesn't *invite* the underground... the underground finds out about it (and attends) on their own >>taylor808 __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 01:35:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alexander Pita Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alexander Pita Subject: Re: Request for DJ's In-Reply-To: <199403170539.AAA08070@holmes.umd.edu> PaniK, I would be interested in spinning at your event and I don't really care about the money. I spin mostly trance with some ambient and progressive house, but the truth is I like most styles and tend to include a variety of stuff in my sets as long as I can get away with it. I think my mixing is ok and I've spun on the college radio a few of times, but never at any events. I'm basically unknown, but I really love the music/scene/people and would like some exposure and experience. My only problem would be getting to Penn State from here. I'm in C.M.U., Pittsburgh and don't have a car. If you would be interesting in having me and have friends from around here who are going and could give me a ride or any other inexpensive method of getting there please let me know. I would really appreciate it. P.L.U.R. AZTEC ACE ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 02:07:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: SM3 Okay, I just got back and I am not feeling very well so this is going to be short.. 1> I saw Rob from ThermoNuclear productions, he seemed upset about the bad information going around that they didn't have all their people signed now. He showed me the contracts for all the England people (Baby Ford, Dave Angel and someone else..) and said if anyone wants to see the rest of the contracts, call the info line and leave a fax number to have them sent out. He said everyone on the flyer will be there with the exception of King Britt, who will be at Jsqared's party, Escape Velocity (net ravers free!). They were also giving out these fat little promos, they have 1000 tapes wrapped in their oversized flyers. :) 2> I met Ritchie Hawtin. :) Anyhow, apparently Plus 8 records is going to come on line pretty sure. I don't know exactly whether they are just getting an account or going for a full internet system. I think it's a full internet connection, though. This should be fun. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 12:44:30 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: SM3 Once Again- ROB from ENERGIZER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THERMONUCLEAR PRODUCTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thank you - Plasma1000 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:02:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alexander Pita Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alexander Pita Subject: Re: Request for DJ's In-Reply-To: <199403200635.BAA26316@holmes.umd.edu> Sorry folks. Didn't intend to post that response. Screwed up. Please ignore. P.L.U.R. AZTEC ACE ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:51:39 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mike Perkowitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mike Perkowitz Subject: ACID! I LOVE DAVE MCMAHON! brief review of last night's acid party somewhere near worcester: THANK YOU ALL. :) we dont get hard acid like that out in seattle and i really needed a dose. i enjoyed all the djs' sets, but dave's really pushed my buttons. if any of you happen to be coming out to seattle any time soon, please dont forget to bring your records. ;) good to finally meet some more of you too.. :) mike/tint (briefly returning to old stomping grounds) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nature is made possible by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting." -PBS ----------------------------------------------------------------------- t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n ----------------------------------------------------------------------- map@cs.washington.edu http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/map ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:59:24 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rishad J Quazi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rishad J Quazi Subject: Re: RED picnic In-Reply-To: <199403192352.SAA24998@holmes.umd.edu>; from "Jill M. Charette" at Mar 19, 94 6:55 pm > > hey everyone > > neith is listed on the HOM as organizing a pre party, but she can't do it > anymore so she asked me to try to organize something > > fish suggested a picnic, i used to live in fitchburg and still have family > there who i'm sure would let us use their backyard for a picnic but i would > like a rough estimate of how many people to expect if you are interested > drop me some email jmc@unixvx.simmons.edu > > *hugs* > jill > me (1) :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 18:20:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Lord of Acid Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Lord of Acid Subject: pleasure dome Again, I am looking for a ride to pleasure dome. im in the dc area, so it shouldn't be too much of a pain... --------------------------=========================--------------------------- "Have you ever seen...a psychadelic circus?" At this moment is does indeed seem to me that it is with eyes awake that I am looking at this paper; that this head which I move is not asleep, that it is deliberately and of set purpose that I extend my hand and see it; what happens in sleep does not appear so clear nor so distinct as does all this. Rave on. /\/\ [dtripper@access.digex.net] /\/\ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 19:29:03 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU Subject: Re: pleasuredome ride Hey dtripper@access.digex.net I would give you a ride, but unforutanely i am coming from pa. A good suggestoinis to find out if you can get a ride from musicnow, i.e. find out who is going there to pick up a map to the location. Maybe you will be lucky enough to get a ride from one of crew at musicnow, like lieven or dave. I know that sounds really extreme, but maybe it will work. If you can't find a ride, as a last resort, maybe hang out at musicnow and ask someone coming to get a map. THis may be also extreme, but this party is going to PHAT and you shouldn't miss it for anything, who cares how ya get there as long as you there! There is a slight possibility I can get you a ride from my friends that are from va who are coming. If I can get you a ride, then I wilcontact you personally via e-mail. Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu nosferatu/mikey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:04:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Lord of Acid Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Lord of Acid Subject: Re: pleasuredome ride In-Reply-To: <199403210032.TAA29259@holmes.umd.edu> Cool man..thanks. --------------------------=========================--------------------------- "Have you ever seen...a psychadelic circus?" At this moment is does indeed seem to me that it is with eyes awake that I am looking at this paper; that this head which I move is not asleep, that it is deliberately and of set purpose that I extend my hand and see it; what happens in sleep does not appear so clear nor so distinct as does all this. Rave on. /\/\ [dtripper@access.digex.net] /\/\ On Sun, 20 Mar 1994 MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU wrote: > Hey dtripper@access.digex.net > > I would give you a ride, but unforutanely i am coming from pa. A good > suggestoinis to find out if you can get a ride from musicnow, i.e. find out who > is going > there to pick up a map to the location. Maybe you will be lucky enough to > get a ride from one of crew at musicnow, like lieven or dave. I know that > sounds really extreme, but maybe it will work. > > If you can't find a ride, as a last resort, maybe hang out at musicnow and ask > someone coming to get a map. THis may be also extreme, but this party is going > to PHAT and you shouldn't miss it for anything, who cares how ya get there as > long as you there! There is a slight possibility I can get you a ride from > my friends that are from va who are coming. If I can get you a ride, then I > wilcontact you personally via e-mail. > > Michael Schreiber ms5414@ark.ship.edu > nosferatu/mikey > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:47:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JEN KANE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JEN KANE Subject: equillibrium crash space can anyone out there hook us up with crash space after equillibrium? i know someone mentioned it, but i have lost your address. it will just be a friend and i there, total of two. we would greatly appreciate this:) thanx alot!:)..peaz out...peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:47:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JEN KANE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JEN KANE Subject: red!!:) hi all!:) we will have our snoKone machine with all of the fixings at red, so come look for us...we loved meeting all of you in the past, hope to see alot of you there! if it is any incentive, you'll still get your free snoKone!:) peaz out....check ya l8r...peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:54:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: SMIII ?...... In-Reply-To: <199403202113.QAA28701@bacchus.eng.umd.edu> Just as a short interjection that doesn't really have anything to do with nothing, but.. Is it just me or wouldn't the guy from Music Now make the PERFECT Richard III? I dunno, when I was talking to him it just struck me, and I have been giggling whenever I think of it. 'Now is the rave of our discontent..' Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:09:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Woosta Acid Party BIPEDS: This past saturday night there was a small party in a barely furnished 2-family house in Worcester, MA. The music was acid, hard acid, hard acid trance, acid, acid hardcore, & acid :D Net ravers in attendance were Dave McMahon, Jill, Jim Sexton, Donato, Hank Thigpen, Stefan, Jetta, Becca (MA), Buffy, Cat, Sprockett, & visiting from Seattle, international sex symbol, Mike Perkowitz! When I arrived at 1:00 AM, most of the people were downstairs dancing in the basement. There was a decent sound system & the lights consisted of one eternal strobe. Dancing on the dirt floor was challenging, but I looked at it as spring training 4 Back2Basics ;) (Although I do feel sorry for those who were too tall 2 dance under the rather low ceiling) Upstairs there were some cool non-ravers chilling out & enjoying the chemical mood of the evening ;) All in all it was a very friendly crowd :D Dave & Joel both spun skillful sets. It would have been nice 2 hear Sprockett, but he was still sleeping when I left at 6:30 :) Thanx 2 Dave, Joel, Wendy & Roberto :D Best of luck for all tomorrow's parties :) PEACE OUT :) MARK (only six days till RED! :) P.S. Can we all please try 2 make a special effort NOT 2 send PRIVATE MAIL 2 the list? If yr message only consists of "yes, I agree with you" or "sure I can give you a ride" or any other message that only concerns one or two people, please do NOT post it 2 the entire list! If U would like 2 change yr header, send the message INFO REFCARD 2 LISTSERV@umdd.umd.edu 2 discover yr options. In any event, please refrain from using a reply command on yr mailer unless U are quite sure where yr reply will be sent. THANX :) I LOVE U ALL!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:12:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SQ0326@ARK.SHIP.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: SQ0326@ARK.SHIP.EDU Subject: unsubscribe please unsubscribe SQ0326 thanks sean q. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:23:28 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MS5414@ARK.SHIP.EDU Subject: questions :0 Okay I want to the reviews of sm ]I[ since I didn't get to go :(, so if anyone went to the event, please post about your time there, i am sure others want to know to! Also, I may be going to FEVER in two weeks and would like to know who will be spinning. Hope to hear from someone soon :):):):):) Thanks, Michael Schreiber ] P.S. I heard that King Britt will not be spinning at Pleasuredome, but in his pl place will be......Doodlebug from Digable Planets yeh:):) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:48:02 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: red...meeting in boston... hey guys! red's comin' up(really?), and if any of you guys want to meet up before, let me know... my friends and i(in boston) are gonna hang out in this house before it, and are *kinda* having a party(but i know i kinda want to be rested up so i can dance for 12 hours....yea!...so it won't be too crazy) this house is about a 5 minute walk off the B train on the green line, up by boston college... it would be awesome to meet y'all...as i am relatively new to the list(as i haven't met anyone yet) and some rides MAY be available...kinda depends on my car situation...so i'll let you know about that as well... just an idea until something better comes up =) let me know what you guys think... laters and loves, harry (siko*) haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:55:39 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: red djs... sorry to make this another message among the hundreds of others...but, does anyone know the times the djs will be performing and in which room? (or are there too many djs to have this planned out too accurately? i don't wanna miss soul slinger!) plus, does anyone know if cameras are allowed? how 'bout video cameras? (some people i know want to do a little project for school and interview some people at the beginning...) any info on this stuff or info where i can get more info would be more than appreciated... thankses and loves, harry (siko*) haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu ####################################################################### ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 23:05:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: just wondering.... just awoke a few hours ago, and still feeling dazEd from s.m.III. this party was awesome, as i'm sure you all know. i think my favorite dj had to be jason jinx, who, i will admit, i was worried about as to whether he was going to pull it off after the likes of micro and hawtin. but by the time he was done, i was a sweat drenched, exhausted, thouroughly impressed and satisfied raver, with barely enough energy to do dancing justice to scott's set. but anyway, the reason i'm posting this is to get some general feedback on what everybody thinks about pleasure dome. let me know what your thoughts are and i'll let you know what mine are.... later lonnie ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 20:54:52 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: pleasuredome ride > I don't know if this is out of line, or obsolescent, or something, but . . . < Is it really out-of-it impractical to hitchhike in the NE? There are lots of Interstates and lots of traffic. . . Neil ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 23:56:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [3/21/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 3/21/94 *************** *********************** "Reviews by DJ John Avery" ************************* ******************************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The DJ Trax 12" Update is now associated with YOUR BEAT RECORDS in Union City, NJ. The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat. This will open up new markets and help to provide interested DJs and music lovers a new source for the most cutting edge dance music. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. As of March 14, interested buyers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to Your Beat Records. Every effort will be made to fill the orders. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QUESTION: What was the record Glen Friscia was playing on his Hot 97 mix show on Saturday night? It had a forceful rap over Strafe's "Set It Off" beat and samples of Grace Jones' "Slave to The Rhythm"!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Dancing"--Erick "More" Morillo (SR-12233) Taken from the "More" EP (SREP-3), this cut gets two new remixes, in addition to the original EP mix. "Little" Louie Vega lends a hand on the A-side with the "Little""More" Dub in true Masters at Work form with full synth arrangements supporting the vocal sample. Clocking in a 9:42, this should be long enough for the most adventurous of mixers. We also thank Strictly for pressing it with wide grooves, keeping that good sound quality intact, unlike others who insist on squeezing in an LP's worth of material!! Erick's "Vocal" mix gets deeper than we're accustomed to from Mr. Morillo. The cool organs and crisp percussion add to the full vocals from Barbara Tucker and Zhana Saunders. "Phat Beats Volume 1"--Kenny "Dope" Gonzalez (Phat Wax PW-106) On this four cut hip-hop EP, "Klap Your Hands" impresses me the most, going back 15 to 20 years into the "old" old-school archives to help DJs new to the scene who don't have these great records. Thanks Kenny, I don't have the originals either. Too many samples to list, you'll have to track this one down yourself. "Justa Groove" works an old disco groove at around 115 BPM for when you bring out the old Salsoul groovers. Two other cuts are included but incorporate samples of relatively new tracks. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NERVOUS RECORDS: "Armand Van Helden Presents Jungle Juice" (NE-20085) The first thing I'll say, is buy this record ASAP. Armand Van Helden has proven himself as a purveyor of the hard tribal sound. The side B cut, "Egyptian Magician" uses a healthy dose of Middle Eastern (Egyptian???) samples worked into a hard tribal beat. For those who enjoy staying on the cutting-edge, this track shows just how possible it is to use sampling to introduce musical forms not commonly associated with dance music. For the less adventurous, a housier mix is included with the sinewy bassline that seems to be working well on many house records. The side A track uses a male vocal sample to spice up another tribal beat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIGITAL GRAFFITI RECORDS: (frmp59a@prodigy.com) "Feel The Melody"--O.D.L. Science (DIG 231) Congratulations to Mr. Dock Drumming for putting out his first record on the new Digital Graffiti label. Side A works a deep house groove and uses a subtle female vocal sample to give it the "Feel The Melody" hook. The second mix uses a vocal introduction manipulated by the Sound Blaster computer sound card, goodbye forever to the Vocoder. "Gone Into Action" on the B-side is an impressive hip-hop cut using a variety of dancehall and hip-hop samples (most notably, Das EFX's "They Want EFX"). If you're a hip-hop DJ, definitely go with the "Gone Into Action" and SUPPORT NEW TALENT. Too many times, DJs get stagnant and play what everyone else is playing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ASTRALWERKS RECORDS: (Astralwerks@cyberden.com) "Barramundi" An Introduction To A Cooler World (ASW 6115) This CD gets deep into ambient house territory with slight pulsations of the 808 kick drum at around 85 BPM on some tracks, differing from other beat-less ambient songs. The eight tracks use a variety of different aural landscapes to set the mood. I personally like the Rapino Brother's "Go Ahead London" which uses a vocal sample and beautiful keyboards to accentuate the slow throb of the kick drum. Upcoming Astralwerks releases to watch for include "One 4 Love" by Mellow Mellow (12" April) and Fierce Ruling Diva's "I Need Drugs" (12" May). -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The following reviews are from DJ Friendly STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "DJ Pierre" The Album (SRLP 308) Chicago fans, rejoice - all of Pierre's classic Strictly cuts on one double LP! If you missed the massive hits "Generate Power" or "Master Blaster," here's your chance to get 'em. This release contains eleven cuts, including the above-mentioned plus two new songs, "Fire Drill" and "Blazing Inferno." These new cuts make this worth getting even if you already have the others. Those expecting "Wild Pitch" length mixes on these new tracks should be forewarned that each only runs 5 to 6 minutes, more like some of the earlier B-sides, but they are storming! "House Crash Volume 1" (SR 12237) This new five track EP is full of strong grooves set to rock the house. "Give Me Your Lovin'" features some Morillo-styled organ and a drum track that'll move 'em. All tracks have tasty vocals, sax samples, amd rhythms. My favorite is "Check it Out," which starts out dark and hard, then changes in the middle, slowly working its way back to the original groove. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRIBAL AMERICA RECORDS: "Get Your Hands Off My Man"--Junior Vasquez (Y58117) Yet another new release by NYC's trance-house master. Not a serious departure from his other recent releases, but just as good. Includes a long Sound Factory mix, plus three dubs to choose from - all really phat. The best cut is "The BIG Dub," a slow build-up number that hits hard. "The Return of Sextravaganza"--Frederick Jorio (Y58075) Jorio, the mastermind behind Lectroluv, recently of "Dream Drums" fame, has put together a five-tracker of diverse sounds. "Theme from Sex- travaganza" is similar to "Lectroluv Theme," with all kinds of wierd little vocal samples. It also has those nice, lush synth sounds we've been hearing a lot of on Tribal. For me, "All I Want is Sex" is the best cut, with loads of happy-sounding keys and horn sounds. There's also two really adventuresome tribal cuts, certainly not like the recent deluge of Goodmen clones! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ATLAS RECORDS: "Tribal Grooves 1"--Worldwide Tribe (ATL004) This has been creating a buzz even here in Top-40-Land, Connecticut. Three monstrous and innovative tribal cuts by Hip Rhythm's "Brutal" Bill Marquez. No drum-head should be without it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE YOUR BEAT RECORDS TOP 12 12"S 1. El Trago--2 In A Room 2. I Like To Move It--Reel 2 Real feat The Mad Stuntman 3. Love and Happiness--River Ocean feat India 4. Mass Appeal--Gangstarr 5. More EP--Erick Morillo 6. Bells of NY--Slo-Moshun 7. Fiesta Santeria II--Los Santeros 8. Beautiful People--Barbara Tucker 9. Limb by Limb--Cutty Ranks 10. Losing My Religion--Abigale 11. Breathe Again--Sweat T 12. 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If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu To find out how to subscribe to the YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE, "finger" me -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 00:16:10 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: the boston scene is coming back hm...how to begin? last night we hit the woostah acid party. most has been said--all i can say is i don't think i've ever heard such wonderful hard acid before (dave mcmahon, joel, and i think matt? from providence were the djs i heard--all were great)...i'm looking forward to more in the future :) about RED--if you need a ticket, let me know ASAP and let me know how many, and when you can get it from me, etc. i am in the boston area and can give it to you at the door or whateve.r tickets i think have been selling fast, but whatever. hope to see a lot of you soon. wfs to the mass. posse for bringing da scene back. *wfs* jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 00:34:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: pleasuredome ride I'm strongly against the idea of you hitchhiking... sad to say... but the DC area just isn't safe... even the once pristine suburbs.. even my town... this little hick town onthe outskirts of the burbs... is plagued with assaults and murders. PLEASE do not hitchhike. I implore you. sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 01:21:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francis L Sibilla Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francis L Sibilla Subject: RED - help! In-Reply-To: <199403210150.UAA29548@holmes.umd.edu> I had a ride round trip to RED. But my ride screwed me over. So now - less than a week away I don't have a ride. I'm asking if anyone has extra room who is driving from Delaware, Philly, or NY/LI. Thanks Fran ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 01:46:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Meeting Place 4 RED ------------------------------------------------- | STAIRS | | | | | |--------- STAGE/DJS | | | | . |SPK| |SPK| . | | . * -last year . | | * . . | | ^--(meet here) . | | . . | | . . | | . . | | . . + | . ENTRANCE + | . . + | . . + | . . | | . . | | . . | | . . | | . . | | . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . | | | | | |--------- | | STAIRS | | | | (bathrooms) | ------------------------------------------------ RED PEOPLE: Well if my memory serves me correctly, this is what the bottom floor of The Royal Plaza Trade Center looked like 4 Yellow. Now this year, there are 3 stages, not 2. But there is another side room that they might use that is not pictured here. Where it says "*-last year" is that corner against the lighting tower before the speakers that we met at Yellow (it seems a long standing ne-raves tradition 2 meet near the speakers to the left when facing the DJ). The flyer mentions all kinds of funky platforms and dancefloor risers. Provided, that they don't build some giant robot (or some shit) where I have indicated -- that's where I suggest we meet. I do NOT think right in front of the speakers is a good place, imho. First, it is way too loud 2 talk (& some of us might have catching up 2 do;) Second, our homebase should be in more of a chill spot. The space I'm suggesting is outside of where the dancefloor at Yellow was (indicated by the dotted lines). It is in plain view of the stairs 2 the right of the entrance. All all this can change, but I doubt they will move a stairwell or use a different entrance! Oz suggested we make a sign -- I'm not, but if someone wants 2 make a sign I don't see how it could hurt. So, lets kick these idea's around & settle on a meeting place 4 RED!! PEACE OUT:) MARK (personally I just look 4 fluid's haircut ;) I LOVE U ALL!! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:05:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: just wondering.... In-Reply-To: <199403210407.XAA00189@holmes.umd.edu> On Sun, 20 Mar 1994 ultraworld@AOL.COM wrote: > but anyway, the reason i'm posting this is to get some general feedback on > what everybody thinks about pleasure dome. let me know what your thoughts > are and i'll let you know what mine are.... the flyers shure are puuurty. don't you think so? chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:08:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED In-Reply-To: <199403210650.BAA00725@holmes.umd.edu> why not just use jake's set up space as a meeting ground/stash your stuff area? this worked beautifuly at resolution. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:14:25 -0500 Reply-To: Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED In-Reply-To: <199403210650.BAA00725@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 21 Mar 1994, Machine Media wrote: > (personally I just look 4 fluid's haircut ) Unfortunately, fluids haircut might not make it this time.. :( _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:59:00 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: just wondering.... On Sun, 20 Mar 1994, Mr. Ultraworld wrote: > but anyway, the reason i'm posting this is to get some general feedback on > what everybody thinks about pleasure dome. let me know what your thoughts > are and i'll let you know what mine are.... > > later > lonnie I think it is going to be plenty wicked!! I can't wait. It looks like it's shapping up to be a UK style rave in the US on the East Coast. Something we haven't really ever had. I think there is a pretty good assortment of DJ's and PA's for just about anyone's taste. Variety *IS* the spice of life. Not to mention the *MANY* net people involved. I think this will be an event that people will look back on and say, "Were you at Pleasuredome? I was, it was great!" Kinda like they do for Future or Resolution. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 03:40:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED CM> why not just use jake's set up space as a meeting ground/stash your CM> stuff area? this worked beautifuly at resolution. CM> CM> chris CM> CM> Why is Melon Designz going 2 be at RED?? If they are, that might work, but they are not listed on the book/flyer. HELLO? JAKE? Can U post about this? :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 08:47:15 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SHERYL KELLY Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <21MAR94.09524677.0112.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: SHERYL KELLY Subject: please unsubscribe me! HI THERE! SOMEONE HAS MISTAKENLY SUBSCRIBED ME TO THIS LIST, AND I WISH TO GET OFF OF IT. I HAVE TRIED BEFORE, BUT I AM COMPUTER ILLITERATE. COULD YOU PLEASE HELP ME. THANKS SHERYL ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 08:37:01 -0600 Reply-To: "Andrew J. Ford" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Andrew J. Ford" Subject: base 10 hi all a new issue of base 10 (pronounced base 12), the really dope zine of music reviews (targeted mainly at djs) is available for 58 cents worth of stamps. this treasure chest is *free* and useful and underground!! mail to BASE 10 308 george st, new brunswick NJ 08901 for more info email spikepx@aol.com andy@howdy.wustl.edu * . * \ / * /_\ * / -( )- * |~ /~ / \strOboy / \ * --o-- / _/ _| ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:31:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Steve Hormell Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Steve Hormell Subject: Re: just wondering.... I think pleasure dome has a nice, huge line up (just like RAVE LAND). Dave Angel would be nice to see. The fliers are huge, pretty and will attract alot of attention (just like RAVELAND) Overall i think i'll take my chances out in Lexington, cause thermonuclear dosen't have a good enough reputation to convince me that this party will acutally go off nice. I don't want to end up at tracks (just like RAVELAND) and not hear Dave Angel. fluffhead ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:16:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mat Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mat Subject: aciiiiiieed underground Well, This Saturday in Worcester was certainly a good time. Joel, Dave, Sprockett, and a handful of others arrived at the location -- the same house used two weeks ago -- at around 11:30 pm to set up. We set up pretty quickly upstairs, only to have to move back downstairs to the infamous basement, because of complaints from the new neighbors living on the second floor. Let me tell you that this basement was quite a treat, 'cause it had a dirt (almost mud) floor, irregular cement walls, and exposed insulation on the ceiling. I think that the way that the basement looked piqued my interest for the rest of the night. All in all, the only problems with the basement were had by tall people and people who don't like to wear their jackets indoors, 'cause it was chilly down there! Anyway, after the sound was hooked up, we had a little problem with who was going to be on first, and, since no one else seemed to enthused, I jumped up and said "ME! ME! I'VE BEEN REAL REAL GOOD, PICK ME!" Actually, I just said "Yo, I'll go on," and that I did. One thing I'm never ever going to do again, no matter how cold I am, is wear my jacket while I'm spinning. If someone had slapped me on the head every time my jacket got caught in the headshell I might have decided to take it off sooner, but I didn't. Anyway, once I took it off I think things went smoothly. I ended up going from about 12:30 am to a bit after 2am. The best for me, of course, was that although I started off on the light tip (for me at least) I had people dancing in front of me that could handle the hardstuff, so it got nice and hard. Thanks to Dave for that comment during my set, which just made me all the more willing to get harder. Right now I'm grinning and sticking my tongue out, just like any hardcore and acid sicko would. Anyway, after I was finished, Calvin (I don't know his DJ name) went on, and I had to go upstairs to warm up and take a rest. Unfortunately I didn't get to dance to any of his set, but from what I heard while I was warming up upstairs, he did a nice job. By the way, I don't think that the people on the second floor ever complained again, but on the first floor, above the basement, that bass sounded PHAT! Seriously, downstairs the sound was loud enough, but upstairs it was a lot louder than you would have imagined. After Calvin came Dave, and he definitely did everyone right with more and more and more accccccccciiiiiiiiiieeeeed!!! That was the best thing about the night, so much great acid, from soft to medium to hard, and there was virtually no overlap or anything like that. I have no idea how old some of the tracks were, but it doesn't matter, 'cause everything that I heard was great. Unfortunately, because me girlfriend (Amanda)was feeling a little bit under the weather, we had to leave at around 5:30am, but we left happy. I wanted to go around and meet everyone, but I was either babysitting Amanda or dancing, so I think that's why no one that's posted so far, besides Jetta, realized I was there. Oh well, next time I'm going to have to put a name tag on. Two problems, though. First, I lost my wallet, but there's a very good chance that it was stolen. I'm almost positive that when I took it out of my pants I put it in the backpack that we had with us, but it wasn't in the back- pack when I got home. There were a couple times that the backpack was left unattended, so it's definitely possible. Secondly, I learned the next day that Joel's mixer was stolen. Now, my wallet is bad enough, but Joel's mixer is pretty damn bad. What's even worse is that there couldn't have been more than 50 people there the entire night! It was a nice small party in someone's house, and a wallet and a mixer get stolen? Jesus Christ. As far as my wallet goes, there was money in it, but that's not anything compared to the money I'm going to have to shell out to get a new set of keys ($75 by university policy), new IDs (upwards of $50), and a new wallet ($10). That's four times the amount of money I had in the wallet. I've called the house up and the kids living there have been nice enough to look for it, but they haven't found anything yet. We'll see. So, back to the happy side, shouts out to everyone that's been doing this for the last month, 'cause you've certainly got your shit together enough to throw good, underground parties. Shouts out to all the DJs that spun music for the mind and for the feet. A shout out to all the crazy net ravers that were there that I haven't met yet. And a final big shout out to Sprockett for the sound, which was certainly more than adequate for the space. I hope that this thing keeps happening, 'cause more than anything, we're showing everyone else that we have our shit together enough to make a difference. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:52:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: just wondering.... In-Reply-To: <199403210407.XAA00189@holmes.umd.edu> Just as a tip off folks, if you want Lonnie to get your mail, send it to the ultraworld address. He is not subbed to the list so it has to be sent to both addresses. On NE Raves it is simple enough to respond to both addresses, just don't edit your header. On Sun, 20 Mar 1994 ultraworld@AOL.COM wrote: > but anyway, the reason i'm posting this is to get some general feedback on > what everybody thinks about pleasure dome. let me know what your thoughts > are and i'll let you know what mine are.... The party itself: Looks like it is going to be intense. They have a full lineup of some of the best folks around. And with the net presence they are bringing to the tables (the floor, the keyboards and everything else) I have to support them. Look for me at the entrance, inside and up on the rooftop. The promoters: Yes, they did Raveland, yes, they did Flesh. So far their reputation has been less than spotless. But it looks like this time they have done it up right, I saw the contracts for the English folks (in my hand and quite ready to be faxed out to those enquiring (Rob from ENERGIZER ;) was quite adamant about this point) about Dave Angel, Baby Ford, et al.) I am worried about the commercial aspect to these parties, they do tend to be INCREDIBLY well financed, with incredible promotions (stickers last time, tapes this time) and that seems to make the projects almost too grand to succeed. I wonder if they might not be best served cutting their teeth on smaller projects. Dan Ps. If you got this, here's a special treat. Look for a new and improved Slurp with a new and improved NETherworld column coming out pretty soon. :) "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:07:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: more red.. Just to let you know that Armand will not be spinning at RED. I heard that a new flyer is being printed up today, so watch out for other casualties. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) (thanks to tp for the info) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:08:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: let's lighten things up a little :) now that the last echo of argument has faded.... let's lighten things up a little... some corny jokes? remember, the whole rave culture centers around hard work, chillin' and FUN... fun ravin', skatin', spinnin', or jokin' around :) here's some cheesy, hardly-funny jokes to get everybody's mind in a neutral mode. the first one's about ambient music, for all you hardcore freaks. "AMBIENT MADE EASY" or "Thousand's Guide To Making An Ambient Record" step 1. Obtain a tape recorder and a digital synthesizer. The best synthesizer you can get are the ones of the "sound-all-alike" variety with 2100 sounds that you'll never use. step 2. Plug in all equipment. step 3. Turn on all equipment and set recorder in "record" mode step 4. Take any 3 fingers and hold down any 3 keys..... step 5. Keep holding those keys down..... step 6. Hold..... step 7. Hold..... step 8. Hold those keys until you get a record contract from Astralwerks. step 9. Congratulations! You've made an ambient record. Don't you feel great!? With the money you've made, go and buy a new keyboard. Instead of only 3 keys, you can now hold down 3... and a footswitch! Tips for when you become a star: keep telling everyone that it's tougher than it looks. when DJing, look busy and pretend to fiddle with the EQ and levels, it looks impressive. for a twist, leave an AM radio on in the background when recording. though it sounds tough, holding down 4 keys will make you more versatile. don't let the hardcore and acid kids let you down: after all, what could be harder than making ambient music? have fun! the above should have raised a smile, or an eyebrow. or at least completely cleared your mind. forward it to your friends. before anyone attacks me... i love ambient, it's not the easiest musioc to spin, and i am not saying anything bad about it... just raisin' an eyebrow ;) an putting on Virtual Reality goggles |) "Rotterdam... Ech Wel!" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:18:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED In-Reply-To: <199403210843.DAA00896@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 21 Mar 1994, Machine Media wrote: > Why is Melon Designz going 2 be at RED?? If they are, that might work, but > they are not listed on the book/flyer. it's listed on an update/directions flyer that is now included in the big flyer or found in stores. its just a small piece of paper that has a map to red on one side and then some updated stuff on busses and something about a raffle for some decks or something. anyways, it says "visuals by melon design" waalaa chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 12:32:43 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <21MAR94.13420500.0054.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N Hi folks, i hope all my earlier postings have arrived safe and sound. i'm posting again to say i'm not receiving mail. please note that my address is see-seven-oh-seven and not zero-seven. that tends to be a common mistake. any comments on my earlier record reviews? does anyone care? Any new england and canadian campus/community techno/dance djs are encouraged to post to me in regards to a rave i'm planning as part of NCRC'94 (national campus/community radio conference). i'm putting together a rave that will highlight the talents of at least a half dozen of the best campus radio djs from coast to coast. since the conference is open to new england stations, i'd like to encourage anyone out there to ask at your station about NCRC'94, do they plan to send a delegation, can i be a part of it?...they should know all about it by the end of two weeks at the latest. any questions? just e-mail me. ciao, nick oliver ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 11:48:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: let's lighten things up a little :) (fwd) > "AMBIENT MADE EASY" or "Thousand's Guide To Making An Ambient Record" > > step 1. Obtain a tape recorder and a digital synthesizer. The best synthesizer > you can get are the ones of the "sound-all-alike" variety with 2100 > sounds that you'll never use. > > step 2. Plug in all equipment. > > step 3. Turn on all equipment and set recorder in "record" mode > > step 4. Take any 3 fingers and hold down any 3 keys..... > > step 5. Keep holding those keys down..... > > step 6. Hold..... > > step 7. Hold..... > > step 8. Hold those keys until you get a record contract from Astralwerks. > That's exactly what I did this past Saturday night, except I haven't gotten to step 8 yet :) -handi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 12:36:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: Re: RED - help! In-Reply-To: <199403210621.BAA00650@holmes.umd.edu> from "Francis L Sibilla" at Mar 21, 94 01:21:47 am If possible, include me in on Fran's plea for help. I was going to go to Red, but decided against the evil bus things. I am in Philly. I have a Seder to go to if I don't make it up north, Fran has priority, but if you have room for two, count me also. Would love to see y'all. be well, boyPrincealbert ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 14:09:26 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: sprock here, jen In-Reply-To: <9403210154.AA31020@acs.bu.edu>; from "JEN KANE" at Mar 20, 94 8:47 pm hiya girl! just wanted to get back to you and confirm that i will be working with you and luke at red. hope all is well with you! gotta run prock ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:00:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: just wondering.... Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =DCRAVES@AMERICAN.EDU 21-MAR-94 14:42 >From: Joe LeSesne >Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 02:57:01 +0500 >Reply-To: "Washington D.C. Rave List" >Sender: "Washington D.C. Rave List" > >On Sun, 20 Mar 1994, Mr. Ultraworld wrote: > >> but anyway, the reason i'm posting this is to get some general feedback on >> what everybody thinks about pleasure dome. let me know what your thoughts >> are and i'll let you know what mine are.... >> >> later >> lonnie >I think it is going to be plenty wicked!! I can't wait. It looks like >it's shapping up to be a UK style rave in the US on the East Coast. >Something we haven't really ever had. I think there is a pretty good >assortment of DJ's and PA's for just about anyone's taste. Variety *IS* >the spice of life. Not to mention the *MANY* net people involved. I think >this will be an event that people will look back on and say, "Were you at >Pleasuredome? I was, it was great!" Kinda like they do for Future or >Resolution. > Joe >--- I think that it will be a joke The people in DC seem to have a severely negative view on PleasureDome. Some people say it is Thermonuclear under a different name, some say it isnt. All i know is that Robbie Dyno is spinning and he has never spun anywhere else that I have seen, except for Thermonuclear productions. The flyer is a la Thermonuclear as is the lineup (lots of Dj's but no steadfast regular great, big drawing Dj's). After Raveland (regardless who is doing PleasureDome) the DC crowd is down on big huge ass flyers promoting huge big ass parties. The bigger the flyer, the more commercial it seems. I will be going, only because a few of my friends are spinning, although I will be in Charlotte North Carolina the night before (somewhere that has a REAL scene) dancing my ass off. Do what you want, but I still havent seen a rave that is worth 20 bucks except for Resolution...and that was the best production I have ever seen. Bring in GrooveRider, Sasha, Larent Garnier (sp?), Robby Hardkiss and a few others and I will pay 20 bucks... Peace Rememeber.......April 2nd John and Mike of MUSE Productions presents PURE UNDERGROUND An outdoor, outlaw party for DC Dj's Suzy Cyclone MkW Rob Gardner Ivan G. of PHAT Jester Bleu (Fever Finalist) A $3 donation is what we ask.........thats it Peace (again) :) John oh PS call 703-213-1751 for info ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 14:50:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: just wondering.... hmmm... i'll have to be honest and say that if i wasn't gonna be performing @ pleasure- dome, i would be sort of leery on the whole thing...the track record isn't exactly spotless (to be kind). mind you, i would still go, what with the line up and heavy net involvement) (hell i would probably go just for joe's set, but i digress) check it out...3 of the live acts are net-involved: -1.8.7. <-our favorite breakbeat terrorist from pitts...and hossam will be one of his dancers! (not a chance to be missed :)) -prototype 909 <-no explination needed :) should be very cool and experimental -dj tiff'N e and method one (me) <-well, not exactly a PA, but should be a lot of fun...me playing my keyboards and stuff over derek's ambient spinning... totally live and free-form (ie: making it up as we go along) :) heee and the dj's...i know speed demon is spinning...his set has the possibility of vaporizing the whole room....dont say i didnt warn ya ;) the music should be slammin....lets hope the vibe is, as well -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:12:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: base 10 Astroyboy wrote: >a new issue of base 10 (pronounced base 12),the really dope zine of music >reviews (targeted mainly at djs) is available for 58 cents worth of stamps. >this treasure chest is *free* and useful and underground!! Correction, send a *self-addressed stamped ($.58 in the US) envelope* to: >BASE 10 >308 george st, >new brunswick NJ 08901 Release #7 is out and covers everything underground from house and hip hop, through trance and intelligent, to acid and hardcore. This issue features interviews with: Seefeel, Cari "shape changer" Lekebusch on EX-perimental, as well as Ben Watkins of Juno Reactor. Every issue gets better & better! >for more info email spikepx@aol.com ___ "The genius is not something added to oneself but a / / / / / / _ __/ stripping away of excess to reveal the god within." (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ Peter Carroll, Liber Null finger -l kia@eden.rutgers.edu for PGP key ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:17:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: Rave Info Line... Cybertribe, If you live in the 908 area code in New Jersey there is a new Rave Info line I want y'all to know about... Check it out: (908)506-9592 It is *very* comprehensive and can even get you on reduced lists for a couple of clubs. Got it? Good. Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:16:37 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: red!!:) i'll be sure to get mine--cherry please..... dan or danny boy or dan sparaco or sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu......... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 12:51:08 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: a report from the Left Coast (sort of) Hello all my old ne-raves cohorts! I thought I'd forward this on to you all to let you know how me and ex-DC-raver Eric McCormick are doing. Eric moved to Denver about a year ago, and I spent last weekend out there with him raving. > Hi all! I spent part of the weekend in Denver, and thought I'd report on > how things went there for your entertainment pleasure (hee). > > I flew out Saturday afternoon, going to the Mile High City for the first > time. All the other times I'd flown coast to coast had been at night, so I > got to see the Rockies for the first time. Landing in Denver is impressive: > you swoop down out of the snow-covered mountains and onto the end of the > Great Plains -- which are extremely flat. > > My friend Eric McCormick, who used to live in DC, met me at Stapleton (the > gorgeous new Denver International is still not opened due to bugs in their > high-tech optically encoded fabulous baggage handling system) with a boquet > of flowers. We went back to his very cool apartment, which is actually a > storefront on a low hill west of downtown, and hung out there for a while. > Eric makes techno, and played me his newest creation (a tribal/breaky > trancey piece being shipped to Instinct Records even as we speak). He also > showed me the "fluff piece" he was in on a local Denver newscast about > Denver musicians that was run before the Grammy Awards. Best of all Eric > fed me home-made manicotti, and we gorged ourselves. After a nighttime tour > of "Lower Downtown" (including window shopping at Williams-Sonoma and stops > at two coffehouses) we made our way to the party. > > "Catwoman" was held in a small warehouse/loading dock/single truck garage a > bit southwest of downtown. It was near a residential area, so I was a bit > worried, but nothing happened even though the cops dropped by to say hi. > The space was GREAT: it had that old warehousey industrial feel to it, yet > still had a nice bathroom, and wasn't all grimey and filthy yet wasn't "too > clean" for ravers. It was also heated, which is a plus for parties in a > city where it was 75 during the day and 38 that night. > > The sound system was the right size for the space, and sounded good from the > floor but was HORRIBLY distorted when heard from where the DJ setup was. > But at least it sounded good to the dancers, > although mixing was a complete nightmare. > > The coolest thing about Catwoman was that Eagle (the organizer) took the > time to actually decorate the space. He had an ingenious rig of little > fluffy clouds made from large painted pieces of posterboard hanging from > the ceiling. There were about 20 individual clouds, all mounted in this > sort of web of twine, which was then strung across the dance > > [ DARN! I'd written a whole great description here, but when I > ftp-d it from my work site to soda to post it, half of it got eaten! > and I had already deleted it from the work site. Doh! ] > > area. Eagle and Leah's (yes, our sfraves / diva / Berkeley pal) friend > Laura created two huge neon-dayglo paintings which were hung on the > walls. The DJ area was decorated with "Catwoman" birthday party > decorations. Best of all there were a few lighting effects: a single > strobe, one intella-beam like thing, and something globe-shaped that > looked like a UFO and spun around emitting beams of colored light. The > guy running the lights would turn things off and on from time to time to > vary them according to the mood. > > Behind the dance area there was a sort of ante-warehouse that featured > a huge futon, and tables selling soda, snapple, espresso, and smart > drinks. > > You'd think with such a brilliant set up the party would be a screaming > success, but due to bad politics in the Denver scene it wasn't. It > seems that about two weeks after Eagle had announced and started flyering > for Catwoman, another better-known promoter announced his own party for > the same night. This other promoter even had people standing in the > parking area outside of Catwoman telling people that they were in the > wrong place, that this was a private party and the one they were looking > for was down the road and across the freeway. When Eagle found out about > this he told them to leave, but by then the damage had been done. I > think Catwoman got about 75 people all night, whereas the other party > had several hundred. > > Regardless, Catwoman was BEAUTIFUL. From the time I dropped the first > record of the night the people there were dancing. Even people standing > on the edge of the floor talking to their friends were bopping up and down. > I played for an hour and a half, mostly the sort of things I was playing at > the Blue Cube / Friends and Family, and the energy level in the room > was very high. Each person was giving off the energy and vibe of like > five people. Then Louise took over and gave us all a brilliant ride, > playing everything from one old disco song to trance bordering on hardcore, > with progressive house and bleepy trance in between. Louise is from > the UK but is now living in Amsterdam, and she strikes me as being a > European version of Heather Heart. I haven't had so much fun dancing in a > long time. Over the course of the night people started leaving, and around > 3 am it was looking quite sparse. I remarked to Eagle that it would > probably be better to end it early while everyone is still happy and has a > positive image of the party than to let it drag on and die. He said he'd > see how things went. So, I started a second set at 3.30 am. By then > there were only about six people dancing, so at 4 (with only two people > still dancing but the rest hanging out and talking happily) we shut off > the music. > > I had such a great time though, the people in Denver at Catwoman were > so friendly, and were a mixed group ranging from very young > raver-archetypes decked out in stripes and baggies to late 20-something > club goers to older net ravers to newbies. Every single person had > a smile and many many people talked to me while I was hanging out, telling > me about how they got into raving, and asking me about music and how I > liked Denver. I haven't been around such a great bunch of strangers since > I was in Montreal nearly a year ago. > > I was left with so much happy positive energy from the party that I > didn't sleep that night. We went back to Eric's and then went up to > the skyscraper where he works to see the sunrise, and I also took a > great Body Shop enhanced shower. On the airplane that morning on the > way back I talked to a first-time visitor to San Francisco about what > kinds of things he should try on his visit. When I got home Brian and > I went out for an excursion that started in a hardware store in the > Haight and ended with us walking to the the summit of Mt. Tamalpais. In > between we went to Muir Beach and played fetch with some very friendly > dogs. IT WAS THAT KIND OF PARTY!!!!!!!!! Yippeeee! (And no, I > didn't have any stimulants other than some tea at 5am and some espresso > at noon.) > > Eagle will be doing more parties in the future, and I'll probably be > back in Denver sometime in the next few months. > > Hugs to Laura (Zzar), Eagle, Eric, Kirby, Bart (the cockatiel who sings > along to trance), Zach, Brian@indigo, the man in the hardware store > who knew what I meant about those little brackets, and that shepard- > mix mutt who kept bringing the stick back. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:52:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBERT71@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBERT71@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: help with badges Hey out there in the ne rave list. I'm new to this list and i need help with trying to obtain the newest ne-raves badge. The simplest directions possible would be greatly appreciated since i am one of the few computer illiterates still around...thanks very much for your help. sincerely corey ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:10:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BEN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: BEN Subject: a ride to PD from Boston? Hey all, If anyone is heading down DC way for Pleasuredome from Boston I should could use a ride. This is one I really don't want to miss. This is my consolation for missing RED :( If anyone can help me out, just mail me. eco/kodomo ST931421@pip.cc.brandeis.edu ps. O yeah. I have crash space. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:20:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WHITER@NORWICH.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Roy White Jr." Subject: please unsubscribe me! Please unsubscribe me from the list! Roy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 16:34:27 -0400 Reply-To: fishal@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: FISHAL@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: Re: just wondering.... I was wondering.....is there really any kind of scene in charlotte??? my father just moved there and i will be there for a couple of days around easter time. The only place i have heard of is THE UNDERGROUND. what other places could i check out while i am down there??? any info would be greatly appreciated. thanx allyson ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 17:09:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Burney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Burney Subject: new pic of goldenboy so theres a new pic of ME (alone) on techno.stanford.edu /pub/incoming can it be moved to the appropriate place ? thanks check it peace goldenboy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 05:53:59 EDT Reply-To: harrej@ccmac.canisius.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: new pic of goldenboy All... > so theres a new pic of ME (alone) on techno.stanford.edu /pub/incoming > > can it be moved to the appropriate place ? thanks What is the approbriate place? I'd like to get pics of people :) PLUR, Apoc __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ +===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================+ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Advertise | | Joseph M. Harre \ HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU - Best ~~\___ Here | | Canisius College / HARREJ@DELPHI.COM - Ok.. \___ Good | | Buffalo, NY \ HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU - If you must \ Rates! | | 14208-1045 / ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM - Only to annoy me\ JMH | \_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 18:32:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: ok i am signing off Haven't been reading my ne-raves mail in a long while and I am goign to unsub from it now...I am still on the vrave list and around here...so keep in touch. Love and Frogs!!! Neith ,ad8PPPP88b, ,d88PPPP8ba, d8P" "Y8b, ,d8P" "Y8b dP' "8a8" `Yd 8( " )8 I8 (O)_(O) 8I Yb, / . . \ ,dP "8a, ( \_____/ ) ,a8" "8a, \_______/ ,a8" "Yba adP" `Y8a a8P' `88, "8 " ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 20:50:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Lexington, KY Rave 4-9-94 (fwd) Hey, check out Jsqareds party. It is a hip joint running opposite of Pleasure Dome, with a net ravers free policy. ;) JJ always throws some pretty incredible parties. Dan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 15:20:27 EST From: Bret L. Donaldson To: Multiple recipients of list SERAVES Subject: Lexington, KY Rave 4-9-94 ESCAPE VELOCITY Presented by JSquared & Those Meddling Kids 4/9/94 Lexington, KY "A raving exploration into the technological propulsion of funk." DJ------------------------- Richie Hawtin (+8 records, Plasticman, Detroit) King Britt (Digable Planets) Wink (Trance-Dimentional Cruise Director, Philly) Terry Mullan (That house person from St. Louis) David Hollands (Evolutionary Groovemeister, Indy) Tony Garcia (Bringin' down that Chicago house) ALL AGES--10PM till daylight (or later) INFO-606.281.4193 or Email Bretd20@aol.com Send SASE for flyer--Email for address Other events in the series"Gathering Of The Vibe" -Louisville 4/23 -Nashville 4/30 -Indianapolis 5/14 -St. Louis 5/28 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 21:41:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Wiggle Does anyone know the number of Duncan Haberly of Cyber Prods. who is involved with Wiggle? I lost his business card. Thanx PaniK ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 22:29:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RENDONL@NORWICH.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Libardo Rendon Subject: Montreal info Is there anything going on in Montreal this coming wekeend, raves, concerts etc. Also I need names and adress of good dance clubs. 86! libardo rendon ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 22:58:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Helene Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Helene Subject: Re: aciiiiiieed underground In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:16:57 EST from Hiya ne-ravers, a word from a newcomer: This is a small message to the people at Brown Univ and to the people around Brown in the net to say that I would love to meet them some time. I can't make it to Red but I have time after spring break and if there is a good rave going on in the Providence area then E-mail me back and we'll go together Helene. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 23:56:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: just wondering.... Loni- Why would you care what happens with Pleasuredome . Did I miss something here, who's party is it anyway. The fact of the matter is that this party will be held in a legal location, the directions to which will be revealed a week before the event. Do you feel as if you're in competition or something? Loni, if you would like to speak to one us personally, you may call the information lines and leave a number where we can reach you. Peace out my brother!!!!l ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:08:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: just wondering.... Yo, this event is in no way related to thermonuclear productions and I don't really know where you would get that impression. Call any local music store in the wash dc area and you will get the same response....PLEASUREDOME 94 will rule the wasteland!!!!!!!! ven Lieven is promoting the concert in his store because he knows that were as good as gold BABY!!!!!!!!!. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:21:50 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: Re: just wondering.... John, Why the negativity my brother.Who is the cat Robby Dyno that you reffer to anyway? Is it possible that he sucks or maybe because he does it as a labor of love. Come on bra, what are you really accomplishing by dissin' anybody. I don't go out much, but I HAVE ATTENDED A MUSE PRODUCTION BEFORE!!!!!AND IT WAS AWESOME!!!!!!hehehehehehe.......PEACE!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:09:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: calling all net musicians! i was thinking: we certainly have a great number of music-makers here on ne-raves, so why don't we all band together and produce a ne-raves compilation tape? what do you all think of this idea? musicians: would you be willing to contribute?(artists too for cover art) other netravers: would you be interested in buying a tape of fellow net ravers? please let me know what you think of this idea...all contributions/suggestions welcome... with the amount of talent here, how could it go wrong? :) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 21:29:07 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: My Wooster experience, dance theory (??), NYC tips?? Sun 7 AM Hi all! wanted to post about my night..... After our party, at which I had a good time, actually.. JMC (jill) informed me that there was going to be a boston entourage leaving for woostah at 1 am or so... they (Jim S, Hank, and Jill!!!)picked me up right out in Allston center (whooooh!) around 2:00 am and we went on our merry merry way! :) Getting to the address, thru somewhat vague directions., and dodging a fire that conveniently popped up at the end of the party's location's street, we suddenly realized that it was at the SAME location as before! Ahgggh! more head banging dancing..! (literally) :( :( and it was, but it turned out to be cool anyway, all due to company and music , dave really kicked it in later, and I got up and danced on the muddy dirt floor, all crunched over to prevent from opening a gash in my head from a protruding nail or wire from the 6' ceiling.. but i did! it wasn't half bad, actually... thanks to everyone for such a cool time.. jill, hank, jim (jim thanks for the ride) marc from hartford.. donato, vanessa (huggs!) :), hope to see you all soon! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mon 12 noon. Hey.. sitting here at work.... reading todays Globe at lunch, and I notice a Arthur Murray Dance Studios ad in the paper! It seemed sorta relevant (in a homourous way)to raving, so I thought I would post the blurb in the ad! 'Your Ticket to FUN: Start today & start the FUN - dancing promotes new friendships - Improves your health - Develops more self confidence & social ease - get close to someone nice, get to know them better and be a better dance partner' OK, well, maybe not EVERYTHING, but it struck me as funny, anyhoo! :) :) :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=- Mon 11:30 PM Well, due to previous engagements/alternate social life, i am going to NYC the weekend everyone is going to be in Fitchburg. Story of my life. :/ If anybody knows of ANYTHING going on in the Apple Friday Saturday night, please mail me.. *somebody* must be staying behind! :) :) If nothing else, I would love to check out Sound Factory on Saturday night, that sounds like a good time.. (food and all!) Please let me know of any tips hints on how to get there, when to, and possible other good rave techno clubs in NYC. everything in that town is word of mouth! (or net!!) I *WILL* however look forward to seeing you all soon, hope the next weekend?? smile smile! :) :) After lurking on the neraves for almost a year now, i feel like i'm breaking from my shell and reaching out and touching people.. what a great feeling!! (as marc would say) I love you all!!!! :) :) - deej Stefan (aka: the big tall guy who can't dance well in basements of old wooden tenements :) :) ) Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:29:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: Re: just wondering.... In-Reply-To: <199403220457.XAA08904@holmes.umd.edu> On Mon, 21 Mar 1994, John Q. Plasma wrote: > Loni- > Why would you care what happens with Pleasuredome . Did I miss something Maybe he just doesnt want to see another raveland type catastrophe. sounds shady to me.. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:32:24 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "John Q. Plasma" Subject: pLEASUREDOMEEEEEEEEEEE Any one wanting information as to the location of the event or the validity of our line up/venue can leave their fax number and we will respond ASAP. However, no-one will receive directions to the event until ONE week prior. If you want to speak to someone personally you can call the information lines and leave a message and we will get back to you.Also King Britt will not be performing due to a conflict in events. PEACE..... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:30:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! In-Reply-To: <199403220526.AAA09075@holmes.umd.edu> i think jason's net tape idea is a good one. tho, beforei brainstorm some ideas.. one word of caution, that we should all be aware of now: nothing will get done if too many peop;le get involved with tape/art production. we all know how *that* works... so, jason, why don't you contact a few people who you think would be able to help you.. and just have a couple.. 2 or3 people handle this.. take suggestions.. but, have your words/ideas be final. i don't want to see another good ne-raves idea get killed my too many minds. peace >>taylor ........no.sig.today --> (cortesy of the Square.Wave.Fetish.Team) . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:17:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! YES YES YES!! I'd even be delighted to distribute 'em at the next micorave we're working on for beginning of May at Princeton! delighted & honored, mon! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:24:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED :) RED PEOPLE: Cmellow posted that Melon Designz (Jake's cool visuals) will be at RED. Good 4 him, good 4 us :D My only reservation 4 choosing it as a meeting spot is that we don't know where it is: 1) with all this talk of platforms & risers their might not be any space around him 2) It might be upstairs - which is a bad choice for a meeting place & incredibly hot. There were visuals like Jake's upstairs at Yellow (it was basically a small glass oven overlooking the main room :) The other reason is that the flyer boasts all of these massive visuals in the main room "masive 80ft backdrops" "a full quad winch moving truss structure" etc. which I'm sure Jake does not have the equipment 4. So put in yr input, ASAP -- many people have asked about a meeting point and this shouldn't be a private debate between me and Chris ;) So let's get this settled! PEACE OUT :) MARK (Only 4 days till RED! :) I LOVE U ALL!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:24:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! In-Reply-To: <199403220620.BAA09381@holmes.umd.edu> there's a casette house called A to Z that has the best prices in blank cassettes, shells, labels and all that....i can get teh # for anyone who is interested (jason?) in handling that. and, id love to do the artwork.. if that's ok! >>taylor ........no.sig.today --> (cortesy of the Square.Wave.Fetish.Team) . ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:28:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! In-Reply-To: <199403220534.AAA09162@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Mar 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > nothing will get done if too many peop;le get involved with tape/art > production. > > we all know how *that* works... Yes yes, scary how it works. I am afraid my incompetence in handling the tshirt idea kinda buried that project for a long time, but I beleive that at least one person (working independently) is going to be coming out with a Net Ravers tshirt in the next few weeks. So, I guess the independent soul does win out over concensus sometimes. :) And yes, it will say Net Ravers and we will all be branded for life, but we can at least get to look at the actual shirt before complaining about it. Finally! Dan Ps. I hereby unnominate myself from helping out, I seem to kill too many projects and am doing a juggling act with the ones that are still alive. Sorry.. :( "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:42:35 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! In-Reply-To: <199403220526.AAA09075@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Mar 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET wrote: > i was thinking: we certainly have a great number of music-makers here on > ne-raves, so why don't we all band together and produce a ne-raves compilation > tape? what do you all think of this idea? musicians: would you be willing to > contribute?(artists too for cover art) other netravers: would you be interested > in buying a tape of fellow net ravers? > > please let me know what you think of this idea...all contributions/suggestions > welcome... Count me in, I already have selections on the Analog Heaven #1 and #2 tapes and you and I are both going to be on the Analog Heaven Techno tape/CD so why not an NEtherworld Tape? Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:49:52 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: just wondering.... In-Reply-To: <199403220529.AAA09121@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Mar 1994, Alan Michael Parry wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 1994, John Q. Plasma wrote: > > > Loni- > > Why would you care what happens with Pleasuredome . Did I miss something > > Maybe he just doesnt want to see another raveland type catastrophe. > sounds shady to me.. What sounds shady to me is the snow job Lonnie is trying to do. Basically it is the good old "sow the seeds of doubt" idea. I have a very good idea that these guys are serious and have a legal space. If I didn't I wouldn't be working for them. Yes Raveland was a catastrophie. These ain't the Raveland dudes. Max is NOT in volved and neither is that other guy. Joe P.S. I wonder how many private messages lonnie sent out to people who responded to his query that were interested in going. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 01:53:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: just wondering.... i dont think that lonnie is pulling a snow job; he responded to my message in a very cool manner....i dont think that ultraworld needs to badmouth people to get good parties going... all this arguement is kinda pointless anyway: heres what matters: pleasuredome, on april 9th in dc. I will be there....will you? -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 02:07:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: net-tape (NETherworld?) ok...from what i've gotten so far, i've decided to go through with this project and try to organize the ne-raves net-musicain tape, which will probably be called *ta daaah* "NETherworld" or "NEtherworld" (thanks joe...good idea) taylor has already offered to do artwork, and since he is quite the designer, i am definatly taking him up on the offer :) what would be helpful: if someone would care to help out in actually MANUFACTURING the damn things... though I plan to be fully involved in this project. so what i need now is contributionS... already, joe (187) and myself have committed to placing tracks on the tape..i assume taylor will help out as well...but 3 artists do not make a tape :) i'm accepting all styles: breaks, hardcore, acid, house, trance, ambient, whatever! i want this to be as fully representative of the net as possible. (though try not to make the tracks TOO lengthy....maybe 6 or so minute maximum? maybe 7?) whatever! remember, this will be YOUR tape-im just the guy organizing it! and how much would you pay for a tape such as this? im thinking presently about $5, which seems reasonible to me. and i would like to know how many people are interested in getting one; obviously its pointless to go through this when only about 10 people total want one anyway, i look forward to any comments, suggestions, input, ect...though, as taylor said, i am not about to let this go the way of the whole "t-shirt" mess... (i'm thinking that i want to use full 90 minute tapes or so....thats about 14 or so song slots open...) /Sjan *heh....wrong macro.....lets try this one:* -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu *brilliant!* heeehee ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 23:43:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: let's lighten things up a little :) (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199403211649.LAA03419@holmes.umd.edu> Handi-boy writes: > > step 4. Take any 3 fingers and hold down any 3 keys..... > That's exactly what I did this past Saturday night, except I haven't > gotten to step 8 yet :) No, no no no no! You're not supposed to use your FINGERS! Elbows, arms, feet, knees and foreheads work much better for creating those blissful random sounds. And yes, I'm quite serious ;-) - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 03:32:38 EDT Reply-To: harrej@ccmac.canisius.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: net-tape (NETherworld?) 5$ is more than reasonable, and put me on the interested list :):) __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ +===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================+ |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Advertise | | Joseph M. Harre \ HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU - Best ~~\___ Here | | Canisius College / HARREJ@DELPHI.COM - Ok.. \___ Good | | Buffalo, NY \ HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU - If you must \ Rates! | | 14208-1045 / ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM - Only to annoy me\ JMH | \_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 03:03:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: NEttape If I get my shit in check, I'll be making some tracks s00n... Thus, the contribution of a Speed Demon track or two (unless I change aliases to fit the style)... soundz g00d Auf Wiedersehen, Your Sinister Psychiatrist, S p e e d D e m o n ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 03:18:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: NYC tips? announcing BLISS & SWIRL I haven't done this in awhile but in protest to RED, and in response to this guy, here's this week's NY city info: >Well, due to previous engagements/alternate social life, i am going to NYC >the weekend everyone is going to be in Fitchburg. Story of my life. :/ >If anybody knows of ANYTHING going on in the Apple Friday Saturday night, >please mail me.. *somebody* must be staying behind! :) :) Of course there is! Two new clubs that have opened recently... Friday, BLISS at the Octagon, 555 West 33rd St (near 11th ave?) admission is $5 with a ticket for RED, $8 w/invite, $12 w/out. Oddly enough, three of my favorite DJs at the moment are spinning, james christian, denard and guy dmc. Also spinning are: carlos sanchez (save the robots/8 ball records) and sameer (smooth groove) New VIP room upstairs, as well as a downstairs lounge. Lights, visuals, lasers by all sorts of people. Sorry but I didn't catch the names. 10-6am, after hours (6-10) at Late Night with DJs joeski + special guest Saturday, SWIRL $10, 608 w 26th St. (I hope that address is right!) put on by the fluid & primal possees. DJs include: abraxas (fierce ruling diva), denard, james christian, chill freeze, happy, and jo jo Confirm all of the above on Alan Sanctuary's line: 212-696-8938. I'm not a big fan of Scotto's parties but for the sake of arguement, there's also Living Room every Friday at 238 East 3rd St b/w avenues b & c, 10pm-8 or 9am. DJs usually include moby, dmitri, soul slinger, on-e, jason jinx, jo-jo, O-D. If you can't live without your breakbeat, then go to Living Room. I believe Outlaw is officially dead as is the alliance between Alan and Scotto. >If nothing else, I would love to check out Sound Factory on Saturday night, >that sounds like a good time.. (food and all!) As an update, Sound Factory is still happening. When the new mayor came into town, he decided to close down all parties that were happening after 4am. The first place he closed was the Factory but this hasn't happened since. and it better not happen again! Anyway, I still hold a place in my heart for the Factory but not not in my wallet. $20 is just too steep for me and now that Bliss is happening every week, and it only costs me $8 a week, I'll see to becoming a regular there as long as that DJ lineup remains as impresive :) ___ "The genius is not something added to oneself but a / / / / / / _ __/ stripping away of excess to reveal the god within." (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ Peter Carroll, Liber Null finger -l kia@eden.rutgers.edu for PGP key ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 04:28:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP?! hey all...:) first off...i was hoping someone could talk to mark or paul slater or anyone at PRIMARY and get us a tentative lineup for djs....even a very *rough* idea is better than none, because noone wants to miss any of these djs...:) esp coming from places as far away as we are. please post this info directly to the list, or give it to me and ill do it. also.... i was wondering if anyone could get in touch with jake from MELON DEZIGN (or hopefully hed get this personally) and preferably call him (hopefully its a local call) or even email him, and find out where his set up is gonna be at red...i want to know if its gonna be on the second floor where it was for YELLOW, or elsewhere (on the main floor) and if so where? this is important, because we are trying to pin down an all night meeting/hang out spot for red (just like we had at resolution) and jakes space worked out perfectly...we really had a nice sense of security and safety there...knowing whatever happened, we had a nice home base...its a good thing when youre having a hard/bad time dealing with things. but if jakes space is upstairs, like mark said, it wouldnt be too convenient...if it doesnt work out, i agree, left front is cool, as long as were not directly in front of the speakers so we can talk and those who want to can relax/chill whatever....and somebody with artistic talent: MAKE A BIG, COOL SIGN! :) you will see/meet me there. peace, hossam (butterflies in my stomach) -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.091 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 04:48:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: STOP IT! earlier "john q. plasma" wrote: >Loni- >Why would you care what happens with Pleasuredome . Did I miss something >here, who's party is it anyway. >Do you feel as if you're in competition or something? then joe lesesne added something to the effect of lonnie is sowing the seeds of discontent... ENUFF OF THAT BULLSHIT. 1)-john, i think you jumped the gun, and got overly defensive (based on what i know) but it happens. the thing is you continued this attack in subsequent posts, and personally attacked mr. fischer. i know how much effort you put into an event, and you get really tocuhy about it, but i feel your attack was uncalled for. 2)-think about lonnie telling us what he thought AS A RAVER. thats how i took his sm3 review (which i thought was fukkin wikked btw) anyone of us would and does tell the list the same thing... we praise honest efforts, and warn about shady things...just cause lonnie is "mr big promoter" ;) his opinion can no longer be taken at face value? 3)-joe. ther was ABSOLUTELY no need for your comment about lonnie "sowing seeds of discontent" or some such rot. you know as well as anyone that the man has been in the scene since the get-go and has proven his hardcore time and time again. it ruff enuff keeping our dream alive, without dissing someone who has done so much so successfully in helping to preserve it. you know better than that man. now, i have never met lonnie personally, ive talked to him a couple of times and stuff, but we dont know each other...the reason i did this is because i saw a lynch mob forming around the wrong person. joe you didnt help any. just cause youre involved with p.d. doesnt mean you diss "rivals" (an unappropriate and inaccurate term, imho) john, i totally know how it is and how you can be edgy and nervouse when youre event is coming up and people have their doubts. but focus on the positivity man, ok? im going to p.d. over escape velocity, and i went to jj's last party momentum and had a killer time recommend it to anyone whos thinking of going, personally i dont think the distances between the 2 events are close enuff to cause major competition, so go to whatever one, youll have a blast....:) whoever said something like "i wonder how lonnie has been responding privately to these requests" should be ashamed. thats just pure speculation. i would hope the guy had more class than that, im sure he does. john, id just answer any questions people have about p.d. calmly and truthfully (im sure you have), and let them know whats up, without any unnecessary dissing. i've called promoters lines the night before the event, and talked to them personally, and they said "yeah, its all legal, come on up" only to find it was a total bust. you guys have to realize the effort people put into going to your events. its ridiculous (thinking about what im doing to go to red)..i can give you examples of what people give up to go to a rave (jobs, food...for real, i know ppl personally whove done this). ok, this got too long, but still...we dont need any negativity on any sides and the promoters cant lose sight of who the parties are really for. peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.091 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 02:58:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! In-Reply-To: <199403220526.AAA09075@holmes.umd.edu> LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET writes: > i was thinking: we certainly have a great number of music-makers here on > ne-raves, so why don't we all band together and produce a ne-raves compilatio > tape? what do you all think of this idea? musicians: would you be willing to > contribute?(artists too for cover art) other netravers: would you be interest > in buying a tape of fellow net ravers? > > please let me know what you think of this idea...all contributions/suggestion > welcome... Sounds like a fine idea to me. So I guess it's time to go write more trax :) - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:28:08 +0000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , heath bunting Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: heath bunting Subject: Dance link up special projects division is currently planning an event at virtual world dance event: thurs 26th may - monday 31st may carlyon bay beach, st austell, cornwall, england organised by obsession special projects division intend to link people on the beach to the rest of the world and/or other dance events via internet e.g. IRC, video conf if you are involved in an event during the above dates and are interested in a link up of some kind then please contact heath@flux.demon.co.uk *** cybercafe BBS TEL: 44(0)71 240 3332 data Email: cybercafe@flux.demon.co.uk *** special projects division TEL: 44(0)71 497 2916 voice Email: special@flux.demon.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 08:12:46 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ramsayd@SMTP-GW.SPAWAR.NAVY.MIL Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ramsayd@SMTP-GW.SPAWAR.NAVY.MIL Subject: Mailing Lists Don't know if this is the administrative list, but can the moderator please send me some info on your mailing list. Thx D ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:26:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! At 12:09 AM 3/22/94 -0500, LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET wrote: >i was thinking: we certainly have a great number of music-makers here on >ne-raves, so why don't we all band together and produce a ne-raves compilation >tape? what do you all think of this idea? musicians: would you be willing to >contribute?(artists too for cover art) other netravers: would you be interested >in buying a tape of fellow net ravers? > >please let me know what you think of this idea...all contributions/suggestions >welcome... > >with the amount of talent here, how could it go wrong? :) Jason, I think it's a good idea, and would be in interested in hearing the various styles of the people I know from vrave, etc. I only have one piece that would be of interest to you- "Get Your Butt on Vrave" with Laura's voice over. It's only about 2.5 minutes, but it should fit in. Other than that I have a lot of experimental noise pieces and ambience, should you be thinking of including works like that. Phil ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:51:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Cerutti Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Cerutti Subject: Re: just wondering.... Hmmmm.... Steve ( fluffhead) it is very interesting that you make those incredibly well constructed comparisons of Raveland (tracksland??) to pleasuredome. I must say that I too am with you and the many others out there who will not continue to support a bunch of half assed promotors who want to throw the biggest, most mega-godzillion watts, 300 dj's, from all over the world RAVE!!! My momma told me to shop around, and well i went to megarave, tracksland and flesh, and well thermonuclear meltdown productions ( it is still them, dont let the new names fool you kids) will not be getting my hard earned (ok fine so they arent hard earned, but they still dont deserve em) pesos for pleasurescam. Dont forget that on the flesh flyer it did say 100,000 watts of aural rectifying, metamorphizising, ear splitting sonic destruction!! hehe, you really want to give these knuckleheads 17 or even 20 of your ducats? well i said it, the rest is up to you. As for me and my house, we will be in kentucky supporting someone who has never let us down and does NOT PROMISE FAR MORE THEN HE CAN DELIVER, that is jsquared, damn he doesnt even want our money and will deliver king britt, richie hawtin and josh wink. oh well, seeya later piece out, andy p.s. someone please forward this to lonnie at "ultraworld@aol.com" --gratzi ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:29:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Re: net-tape (NETherworld?) In-Reply-To: <9403220708.AA72328@acs.bu.edu>; from "LEDERJASO%URVAX.BITNET@BROWNVM.brown.edu" at Mar 22, 94 2:07 am just a point of interest,i have full access to a complete recording studio, so i could do the actual recording/production. i can take from both reel to reel and DAT, and possibly vinyl, if that helps. also i have connections fo purchasing 90 min chrome tapes (the clear industry st andard with the grey inner-slip) for dirt cheap, case and all. hope this helps. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:34:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: difinitive red meeting place? i dunno if anyone recalls, but the smart snokone booth will be there, run by our very own peppermint patty and mistress loretta (and myself too, this time). so to end all this quabble, lets all meet there, as we have in the past there's only one smart snokone boothin in existence, soooooill see you there. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 11:40:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: "Funkist" on Friday before RED Cybertribe, It amazes me that with all the people on this list, some parties still don't make it to the Rave O Matic. I don't know if you all out ther are finding out about them and not typing them in, or just aren't hearing about them. Case in point, this Friday March 25th in Downtown Philly the day before RED is Funkist. Come out if you're travelling from out of state on Friday and then head up to RED the next day. This should be a large party. I'll be there, who else is going? Peace, Mars The Headstrong People and Asyd Houz present... F U N K I S T Friday March 25 (day before RED) DJ's: DOZIA - Back to Basics, Philly MACE - Rainbow Playground, Philly SPIKE - Planet X, Jersey DAYZ-X1 - Planet X, Jersey FRESHCO - Digital Deviants, Jersey DAN DC - Digital Deviants, Jersey BANANAS - Digital Deviants, Jersey KARL&KAOS - Rainbow Playground, Philly Smart Bar by Liquid Technology Damage: $10 Location: 13th and Callowhill Promotion and info: Philly Headstrong People (215)731-1003 Toothpaste Productions (215)972-7023 Allentown ZooM Promotions (215)998-9650 Jersey Angel Asylum Promotions (908)972-6270 Froot Loop (908)821-1326 Digital Deviants (908)287-8795 New York City Scooter Promotions (212)631-1033 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 10:48:37 -0600 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sheri Hendrickson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sheri Hendrickson Subject: underrated Djs ATTENTION: DJs, ravers, promoters, etc. I am doing a feature in my zine, Expositor, on new, upcoming, and underrated Djs. I need your help for recommendations and suggestions. I need the information of: * DJ NAME and also real name would be nice * CITY they come from * WHAT KIND OF MUSIC DO THEY SPIN * WHAT MAKES THEM SO UNIQUE? * ETC. on any other types of descriptions It would be nice to hear a DJ mix tape of their's to confirm their talents. Please respond back to: E-MAIL: sherih@kitchen.mcad.edu VOICEMAIL: 612.342.9090 FAX: 612.874.3704 att: S. Hendrickson box #536 MAIL: Expositor 2537 Stevens Ave. S #10 Mpls, MN 55404 Sincerely, HKK ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:18:13 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Rides Offered to RED and Collaborative Music Production Hi, I can take 3-4 folks in my car. I live in the Boston area and can drop by an agreed point in the Cambridge/Boston area. (Alewife stop at the West entrance on the Red ;-) Line is a good choice since its is also close to my work and is a shot up RT 2 to get to Fitchburg.) PS: You can check out who I am since I have a little gif of myself at the Web site I have been working on: http://tiryns.bnn.com/. This homepage also offers a dynamically constructed html sorted list of my hotlist. PPS: The education group here at BBN developed a protocol for collaborative music making across the internet based on MIDI. Its called World Beat. How about some collaborative music production within this community? Those interested in details might want to contact Eric Neumann, eneumann@bbn.com. Regards, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:18:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Oral thursday Cybertribe, While you're on your way to Funkist on Friday and RED on Saturday, come out to "Oral" on Thursday night. Peace, Mars The New Jersey Underground presents... O R A L Every Thursday from 10pm to 6am Special Guest DJ this week: Micro - Caffeine, Long Island Resident DJ's: Mars - Hard Trance/Acid - Outta Space Crew, Jersey Gee Money - Tribal House - Outta Space Crew, Jersey Jeff Manheimer - Progressive House - 106.3 FM WHTG, Jersey Sal V. - Acid house/Trance - Oral, Jersey Intelligent Lighting Lasers Smart Bar Chill-out Lounge Ample safe parking Admission: $7, $5 on reduced list call (908)506-9592 and leave your name and phone number Location: HQ, 4th and Ocean Ave in Asbury Park, NJ Promotion and Info: Mars - Jersey - (908)506-9592 Angel Asylum - Jersey - (908)972-6270 THC Prod. - Philly - (215)923-4339 Zoom - Allentown - (215)998-9650 Directions from NYC and all points North: Take the New Jersey Turnpike South to exit 11 for the Garden State Parkway. Follow the Parkway South to exit 102. At end of exit turn right towards Asbury Park. Follow road for about 4 miles (which will merge into Rt 66 east) to the Asbury traffic Circle. Follow signs for Asbury Park which will put you on Asbury Ave. heading east. Take this all the way to the ocean (about a mile) where you will have to turn left onto Ocean Ave. About 4 or 5 blocks up you will hit 4th Ave. The club is on the corner and has "HQ" written on it. Directions from Philly and all points South: Take the Jersey Turnpike north to exit 7A for I-195. Follow I-195 East til the Exit for the Garden State Parkway North. Take the Parkway North to exit 100A (only like two exits up from where you get on the parkway). This will put you onto Rt. 66 East. Stay on that for about 4 miles to the Asbury Traffic Circle. Follow signs for Asbury Park which will put you on Asbury Ave. Take that all the way to the ocean where you will have to make a left heading north on Ocean Ave. Go up 4 or 5 blocks to 4th Ave. and the club will be on the corner with a big "HQ" written on the front of it. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:51:12 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED :) In-Reply-To: <9403220626.AA23979@media.mit.edu>; from "Machine Media" at Mar 22, 94 1:24 am Someone should shout out right now that they are going to bring a big sheet with the words NE-RAVES on it...that way, that person will be found in 2 seconds....bringing more ne-ravers to him, and then a good spot is found, putting up the sheet at that location... After that, it'll be easy to hookup... You could use a couple big poster boards too. Would you be allowed to put up something like that? -John (i might do this, but probably not, so if anyone else wants too, speak up...) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 13:48:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED :) In-Reply-To: <199403221751.MAA12922@holmes.umd.edu> the last big raves that i've been to, noone planned out where everyone was going to meet, and for the most part, everyone still ended up together. resolution, for instance. i say, if you want to make a sign...cool..make one, otherwise just drop off your bags and stuff by one of the net people's set-ups. be it the snokone machine or jake's fun-o-matic set-up. and since everyone will have their stuff at this person's stand, then everyone will be based out of the smae area. imagine that. no detailed diagrams neccesary. :) plus, once you meet one ne-raver they'll usually show you to the rest of the group. :) chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:04:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: net-tape (NETherworld?) *SMOOOOCH* thank you! you will be definatly hearing from me! -j/M1 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:14:36 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Meeting Place 4 RED :) In-Reply-To: Handi-boy's message of Tue, 22 Mar 1994 12:51:12 EST <199403221751.MAA12922@holmes.umd.edu> Someone should shout out right now that they are going to bring a big sheet with the words NE-RAVES on it...that way, that person will be found in 2 seconds....bringing more ne-ravers to him, and then a good spot is found, putting up the sheet at that location... Hey, Why not have Jake *project* the place to meet? Solutions via the technology we embrace, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com PS: my URL might have had a typo -- it should be html://tiryns.bbn.com/. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:46:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: net-tape (NETherworld?) In-Reply-To: <199403221906.OAA13584@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Mar 1994 LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU wrote: > *SMOOOOCH* thank you! you will be definatly hearing from me! > > -j/M1 > you'll be getting in touch with me?? :) you're smooching me?? or one of the other 200 and something people on here? please please please please edit your headers when replying! i hav eno problem just hitting 'd' key and forgetting, but i must bget at least 5 to 10 of these a day! that's way too much private mail going out to the list. and besides, most the time i can't even tell who the hell its to! :) hehe chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 14:56:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: just wondering.... Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 22-MAR-94 14:54 >From: "John Q. Plasma" >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:08:28 EST >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >Yo, > >this event is in no way related to thermonuclear productions and I don't >really know where you would get that impression. Call any local music store >in the wash dc area and you will get the same response....PLEASUREDOME 94 >will rule the wasteland!!!!!!!! ven Lieven is promoting the concert in his >store because he knows that were as good as gold BABY!!!!!!!!!. >--- Leiven allows ANYONE to promote their party in his store. he will put just about ANY party on the hotline if you ask So the fact eh Music Now is allowing flyers to be in their store or the fact it is on the music now info line.....means........nada John ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:00:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: just wondering.... Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 22-MAR-94 14:54 >From: "John Q. Plasma" >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 00:21:50 EST >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >John, > >Why the negativity my brother.Who is the cat Robby Dyno that you reffer to >anyway? Is it possible that he sucks or maybe because he does it as a labor >of love. Come on bra, what are you really accomplishing by dissin' anybody. >I don't go out much, but I HAVE ATTENDED A MUSE PRODUCTION BEFORE!!!!!AND IT >WAS AWESOME!!!!!!hehehehehehe.......PEACE!!! >--- The reason I am skeptical is that I dont want to see anyone get ripped off Plus I just dont feel sure that it is NOT in fact Thermonuclear I hope the party goes well......I would love for it to go well That would mean great for the scene, but on the other hand it would mean bad for the scene if it is another commercial ripoff or it was a bust Thats all Peace john ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:13:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: Re: just wondering.... Original Message(s): >MESSAGE from =NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU 22-MAR-94 14:54 >From: Andy Cerutti >Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 09:51:09 -0500 >Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , >Sender: NE Raves Discussion > >Hmmmm.... Steve ( fluffhead) it is very interesting that you make those >incredibly well constructed comparisons of Raveland (tracksland??) to >pleasuredome. I must say that I too am with you and the many others out there >who will not continue to support a bunch of half assed promotors who want to >throw the biggest, most mega-godzillion watts, 300 dj's, from all over the >world RAVE!!! My momma told me to shop around, and well i went to megarave, >tracksland and flesh, and well thermonuclear meltdown productions ( it is still >them, dont let the new names fool you kids) will not be getting my hard earned >(ok fine so they arent hard earned, but they still dont deserve em) pesos for >pleasurescam. Dont forget that on the flesh flyer it did say 100,000 watts of >aural rectifying, metamorphizising, ear splitting sonic destruction!! hehe, >you really want to give these knuckleheads 17 or even 20 of your ducats? well >i said it, the rest is up to you. As for me and my house, we will be in >kentucky supporting someone who has never let us down and does NOT PROMISE FAR >MORE THEN HE CAN DELIVER, that is jsquared, damn he doesnt even want our money >and will deliver king britt, richie hawtin and josh wink. oh well, seeya later > >piece out, > >andy > >p.s. someone please forward this to lonnie at "ultraworld@aol.com" --gratzi >--- Andy, you forgot to mention something about a UFO......:) Aurual Rectifying Live FLESH dancers 10 trillion anal cleansing watts with a two gizillion argon neon wattage laser from the SDI program and a plutonium powered highdensity low flying head ripping laser with its own nuclear reactor! Sounds like over hype? Its not too far from some flyers I have seen lately john ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:46:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregory Hastings Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregory Hastings please subscribe ghast@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:47:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: difinitive red meeting place. why not just meet at the smart snokone booth. you can leave your belongings there and get your free net-snokone at the same time. all this bickering and stuff about a sign seems a waste of time. there is only one smart snokone booth in the world!!!!!!!! ill shut up about this now....people just keep going on and on about it. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:03:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristin DiPasquo? Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristin DiPasquo? Subject: Re: Your subscription to list NE-RAVES In-Reply-To: <199402120342.WAA14224@umd5.umd.edu> SIGNOFF N-E RAVES dipasquo@picasso.ocis.temple.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:05:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: calling all net musicians! i can see what i can do. you'll se what i can do. i'm interested. UP-tempo! 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:25:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: attn: whoever is the list admin these days... TO: LIST ADMINISTRATOR A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I SUBSCRIBED TO THIS LIST UNDER THE ACCOUNT OF sscoen@athena.mit.edu SINCE THEN, I HAVE TAKEN A LEAVE OF ABSENCE, AND MY ADDRESS HAS BEEN CHANGED TO sscoen@mit.edu THEREFORE, WHEN I SEND A UNSUB REQUEST TO THE SERVER, IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE ME AS EVEN BEING _ON_ THE LIST TO START WITH!!! PLEASE- UNSUBSCRIBE sscoen@athena.mit.edu THANK YOU. GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:28:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: difinitive red meeting place. In-Reply-To: <199403222104.QAA20694@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu> I'm trecking all the way from Buffalo, NY to NYC and then to RED. I hope to meet some ne-ravers and I probably will. The snokee(or whatever they are) place sounds good. The map was really cool!! I don't have a ne-rave patch but I'll think of something. See ya at RED!!!!!!!! PEACE OUT!!! SUESS:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:29:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Attention promoters!! Niko? Paul Revere? NYC Underground??? i just finished chatiing with DJ Paul Revere, they're on a new label from Brooklyn, EXCELLANT music. i you're not familiar with Paul Revere, Niko Vorkapich, Joey Beltram, or any of the other NYC DJs... Rob Gee, Lenny Dee, or James Christian.... you obviously don't know what is going on UNDERGROUND. does anybody want Paul revere, or Niko, or James Christian to spin at their rave??? hmmm??? here's the conditions: the rave MUST be worthwhile. the rave MUST be legal or approved, Stormrave got screwed up because of an illegal room occupancy at a rave. pretty easy, huh? well promoters... interested? these guys have hardcore and acid inscribed in their music, for a sample of what they've done above-ground.. check out the Adrenalin records "Adrenalin Techno Attack". e-mail me at my address if you are interested Robins52@snycorva.cortland.edu "I got a 380, punk, so duck it!!!" -X-Crash 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 15:38:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gregory Hastings Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gregory Hastings please subscribe Gregory Hastings@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:40:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Re: underrated Djs In-Reply-To: <199403221642.LAA12357@holmes.umd.edu> > I need the information of: > * DJ NAME and also real name would be nice dieselBoy, Damian Higgins > * CITY they come from Pittsburgh, PA > * WHAT KIND OF MUSIC DO THEY SPIN Breakbeat > * WHAT MAKES THEM SO UNIQUE? Damian is one of the few breakbeat DJs in the states. The only other two big-name breakbeat DJs on the east coast are Jason Jinx and Overload. Damian exceeds their skill and musical taste, in my opinion, pushing the bounds of breakbeat beyond all that old '89 happy breaks stuff that Jinx still spins out. > * ETC. on any other types of descriptions You can mail him at damian@cislabs.pitt.edu and ask for a tape. He may be on the outer edge of "up and coming" (meaning that he is fairly well-known), but I still think he is one of the most underrated DJs on the rave circuit. --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 16:41:54 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: promos??? demos??? hey all DJs! interested in getting your mix tape aired over radio??? tuesday nights from 8pm to midnight,and sporadically thru the week, it's the time when i go up and spin at 90.5 WSUCFM in Cortland. we have a few techno DJs and here's what we like... HARDCORE!!! ACID!!! TRANCE!!! HOUSE!!! if you want a mix of yours to receive airplay to 8,000 screaming college chicks and guys, plus a community of 20,000+, send a mix up to us... here's two addresses, one i ME personally, the other is the office... ME... Obin Robinson "1000" 231 Hendrick Hall Cortland, NY 13045-2443 or.... Obin Robinson Promotions Director WSUC 90.5FM Cortland, NY 13045 your mix is credited fully, and we appreciate all stuff that yo send us. we're not afraid to play ANYTHING... by the way... the phone #s are.... Me... 607.753.4345 the office phone is being checked, hold a minute for that #..... gotta jump! "...And then I... blew out the candle..." *tick*tick*tick*tick*....... -Richie Hawtin (Plastikman) on "Spastik" 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 12:56:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: New Controversy? Hey, I am bouncing an idea around in my head. Okay, I have noticed that their are alot of Net Ravers who aren't directly connected to the Internet. Some of them are on they pay services (like AOL, Compu$erve, Prodigy). I am wondering if the CyberTribe would mind if I called over to the services and see about getting an NE Raves forum put up that connects us to them, without them having to pay for every letter that comes across the NE Raves list. I don't know how viable it is, I don't even know if it is possible. The possibilities exist that they may be able to get a one way connection but be unlisted on the list and just see what we write without being able to write back directly. I am wondering if you folks would have problems with this. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 13:57:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Erik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Erik Subject: Put me on list I wanna be on the list. st004621.brownvm.brown.edu Erik ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 14:03:26 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Steve Hormell Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Steve Hormell Subject: HELP!!! To Red! Cybertribe, Well, it seems as though the plans i had for getting to Red have fallen through. If anyone has any room for me and my girlfriend Savonna, going up there and back...PLEASE get ahold of me. We have gas and toll assistance. Send e-mail or call 215-339-5343 if you can help us. Thank you, fluffhead ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 15:15:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Fireman 451 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Fireman 451 Subject: Rites of Spring : This Friday in Albany Hey Cybertribe, just got this flyer. Hope a lot of you can make it to this. Vibe galore to be had :) A pre-RED or RED substitute for all Albany-area ravers Friday Night ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Space Productions/The Mission Presents: The Rites of Spring (Vernal Equinox 2, pre RED party) Friday, March 25th, 1994 Two Dance Floors Discovery Stingray Mark Medicine Man Swami Bill Kramer Klokwerk Space *Sprockett* [net] ...& Guests.. 17+ with ID, 21+ to get stupid bowling & breakfast available $8 admission, $2 off with RED ticket ($35 bus & ticket to RED.. Big Dipper 465-6381) INFORMATION 518/432-4784 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Unfortunately, I can't go (I'm supposed to be in Boston already, Fri night) but I hope a lot of net-ravers can come out and support this. peace out -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:02:20 +0300 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hugh Lawerence Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hugh Lawerence Subject: NE raves discussion Please send me all rave info. peace. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:07:33 +0300 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Hugh Lawerence Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Hugh Lawerence Subject: are you on?4:52,March23 are you on right now? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:27:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: FATHOM Here's some info for people looking for something to do:) geoffe EVERY FRIDAY FATHOM 10p.m. - 3a.m. Allentown, Pa. DJ's geoffe and miko + special guests weekly UPCOMING EVENTS: March 25 - Shamrock April 1 - WINK(2-hour set + a chance to win a SEGA GENESIS SYSTEM) May 13 - REESE May 20 - Goodwill More t.b.a soon. If you need info. or directions call the 24-hour FATHOM hotline at (610)433-0503. "When we say underground, we mean business" peace, geoffe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 18:27:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: are you on?4:52,March23 I tried sending "signoff ne-raves" to the listserver a couple days ago, if that's what you're asking. weien@pageworks.com ---------- From: NE-RAVES To: Multiple recipients of list NE-RAVES Subject: are you on?4:52,March23 Date: Thursday, March 24, 1994 00:07 are you on right now? ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 19:43:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: attn: whoever is the list admin these days... You know Shalako, this message is rather rude. First of all, everybody on this list received information on "whoever is the list admin these days" either when you subscribed or when the account was transferred. You should have saved that info so that you can address the human being who goes through the time and trouble to keep this list alive. He has a name and it is Dan. I think a little respect and common courtesy is in order. If you had done this, everyone on the list would not have gotten your message in CAPS - and all this yelling (!!!!) isn't necessary. For someone who a year ago used to cram PLUR down everyone's throats, you sure are lacking in manners and politeness. If I were Dan, I would NOT unsubscribe you until you asked nicely. I hope your mailbox fills and fills with ne-raves junk mail. >TO: LIST ADMINISTRATOR >A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, I SUBSCRIBED TO THIS LIST UNDER THE ACCOUNT OF >sscoen@athena.mit.edu >SINCE THEN, I HAVE TAKEN A LEAVE OF ABSENCE, AND MY ADDRESS HAS BEEN CHANGED TO >sscoen@mit.edu >THEREFORE, WHEN I SEND A UNSUB REQUEST TO THE SERVER, IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE ME >AS EVEN BEING _ON_ THE LIST TO START WITH!!! >PLEASE- UNSUBSCRIBE sscoen@athena.mit.edu >THANK YOU. >GET ME OUT OF HERE!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 19:43:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: Attention promoters!! Niko? Paul Revere? NYC Underground??? >i you're not familiar with Paul Revere, Niko Vorkapich, Joey Beltram, or >any of the other NYC DJs... Rob Gee, Lenny Dee, or James Christian.... >you obviously don't know what is going on UNDERGROUND. You're joking right? Joey Beltram is from Brooklyn, Rob Gee is from Harrison, NJ, James Christian is from Long Island, don't know about the others. As for underground, most of those DJs got started at the Limelight and still spin there which is *far* from underground. In fact, "commercialized" comes to mind and I'm being very generous. I think James is great but you can find him just about anywhere these days. Him, Lenny Dee and Joey Beltram are very popular too. How about Denard, Terra (Carlos), or Heather to name just a few? Too underground for you? >here's the conditions: > the rave MUST be worthwhile. > the rave MUST be legal or approved, Stormrave got screwed up because of > an illegal room occupancy at a rave. >pretty easy, huh? those are the conditions for an underground rave? HA! "you obviously don't know what is going on UNDERGROUND." A "legal or approved" party is far from underground. You seem to be ignorant of the fact that raves started as renegade parties, alternatives to clubs, that took place in secret locations so that it wouldn't get busted. They were usually free and outdoors. With those kind of conditions, a legal space is kind of defeating the purpose. Ever hear of "map points"? Why do you think they were invented? >"I got a 380, punk, so duck it!!!" -X-Crash Hang on, you mention New York, you mention Storm raves, you even quote X-Crash yet you give no credit to the people who put on Storm raves and the free, outdoor and very unapproved or secure (I hate the word legal), renegade, totally underground, and never compromising Back To Basics crew? You fool. >1000 ___ "The genius is not something added to oneself but a / / / / / / _ __/ stripping away of excess to reveal the god within." (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ Peter Carroll, Liber Null finger -l kia@eden.rutgers.edu for PGP key ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 19:44:36 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: New Acid Jazz mailing list For us acid jazz heads -- Newsgroups: rec.music.info,rec.music.funky From: gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gregory B Beuthin) Subject: MAILINGLIST: Acid-Jazz and related funky music [Blurb] Followup-To: rec.music.funky Originator: recmusic@cygnus Nntp-Posting-Host: cygnus.cp.tn.tudelft.nl Reply-To: gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu Organization: University of Hawaii Date: Fri, 18 Mar 1994 12:20:35 GMT The following is a list of proper nouns in no particular order: Galliano, James Taylor Quartet (JTQ), Acid Jazz, Jamiroquai, UFO, New Jersey Kings, Stereo MCs, Instinct Records, Soul II Soul, Omar, Young Disciples, West Coast Jazz Massive, Brand New Heavies, Talkin' Loud Records, Exodus Quartet, Mo' Wax, Funk Inc., Rare Grooves, Mother Earth, Kyoto Jazz Massive, Massive Attack, MC Mello, Snowboy, Yo-yo Honey, Dorado Records, Straight No Chaser, Night Trains, Luv'N'Haight Records, Quiet Boys, Beat Goes Public, Urban Species, US3,.... If any of these mean anything to you, sign up for the Acid Jazz mailing list by sending your address to: gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu. This is an *email* list, not snailmail. :-) Disclaimer: The list is manual, not automatic, so please be patient. The list has no FAQ. You will get added to an alias file, and join the discussion already at hand. :-) Peace, -- Greg "Boyteen" Beuthin | Respect.... ___ Keep (gregbb@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu) | / | \ the Social Sciences Computer System | DJ Billingsley | /|\ | vibe University of Hawai'i at Manoa | ThePhatJazKat \/_|_\/ alive ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 20:13:09 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: FUTURESPACE (?) mattE silver is throwing a small, intimate, underground party in manhatten on monday april 4th. DJ's/live acts will consist of: MIXMASTER MORRIS/IRRESISTIBLE FORCE (in from london!) PROTOTYPE 909 TERRE THAEMLITZ i think only 200 people are being admited.. the space is small. i will post more when i know more.. like phone # and stuff. also,party is basically free.. i think he's asking for $5 donation. hopefully many of you can make it! *maybe* i can do some sort of pre-party. but, chances are i'll be getting ready for the gig. xo >>taylor ........no.sig.today --> (cortesy of the Square.Wave.Fetish.Team) . ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:03:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: ne tape A to Z audio's number is (216)333-0040 They are about the lowest price for blank chrome tape. I wouldn't recomend clear ubless you do on cassette printing. es, let's do blank.y just do paper labl They have no minimum order, at 100 quantity 90 min BASF chrome is $.94 a piece, let's do black shells. Clear norelco boxes are $.15. I have a DAT deck and 6 Harmon Kardon tape decks and they sound y to do the duping. more than happ Just get me an edited DAT master and the blanks. I'll dupe them and ship them to whoever fills the orders. Peace. Jason ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 21:08:34 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Speed Racer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Speed Racer Subject: Vrave badges again sorry to have to do this but the list is obviously delaying posting... unfortunately i cannot fulfill my offer to make badges for people for red... i was expecting ot get the info from people by 3/23 at around 6pm... i will be posting to the list on ordering info for the badge in a couople of days.... sorry for the inconvenience :( joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:08:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED ok im sorry of this post will be posted twice, but RED os this weekend and i'm trying to find out who is going so i don't miss out on meeting someone i think that i am going to have everyone help make some sort of sign att the prepicnic so whoever is coming,bring whaterver you want (crayons etc) and if you need directions, email me and i was thinking, why doesn't everyone who is going to RED email me and i will compile trhe list and post it to the list that way we can all know who to look for :) i hope to see lots of people this weekend :) :) :) *hugs* jill p.s. for you vravers out there, vampyre/jo is coming to RED this weekend and she wants to meet ALL of you so make sure you find her :) p.p.s. i still have crash space for 1-2 more people it's really close to the location where RED is ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:17:14 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 23 Mar 94 22:08:59 -0500. <9403240306.AA29864@MIT.EDU> > ok im sorry of this post will be posted twice, but RED os this weekend and > i'm trying to find out who is going so i don't miss out on meeting someone > i think that i am going to have everyone help make some sort of sign att > the prepicnic so whoever is coming,bring whaterver you want (crayons etc) > and if you need directions, email me > and i was thinking, why doesn't everyone who is going to RED email me > and i will compile trhe list and post it to the list that way we can all > know who to look for :) casper and jenberry =) when/where is the prepicnic? > i hope to see lots of people this weekend :) :) :) > *hugs* > jill > p.s. for you vravers out there, vampyre/jo is coming to RED this weekend > and she wants to meet ALL of you so make sure you find her :) > p.p.s. i still have crash space for 1-2 more people it's really close to > the location where RED is ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 23:51:55 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: FATHOM In-Reply-To: <199403232340.SAA24409@holmes.umd.edu> OK I sent the video tape today. Let me know when you've recieved it. Joe ~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:34:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Have to share.. I am getting a massage right now by a woman I love dearly. This is the best I have felt in months, well, pretty close anyhow.. *sigh* Just had to share a good feeling with you folks. :) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 00:43:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alan Michael Parry Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alan Michael Parry Subject: video.. whatever happened to the neraves video tape? If only someone would mail it to me then I could easily tape a copy for myself and anyone else who would care to send me a video tape. lets get it back on its way.. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@chopin.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 08:12:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Under The Pink Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Under The Pink Subject: Directions 2 RED? Has anybody posted directions on how to get 2 RED from the Boston area? We only have a few days left.... -- Jason Bilsky- fuzzbox@world.std.com **AnnoyingBandNameSigAlert!** CrimsOrBandOfSusanSigueSigueSputniKLFionAsiArtOfNoisE.G.DailYello DaisyChainsaWettoNineInchNailSystemSeveNedsAtomicDustbiNewOrder MoodswingSt.EtiennEnigmAdamskInSoConcreteBlondEnOrbital ToriAmoSmithereenSarahBrightmaNirvana ...Oh, and Fuzzbox..... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:34:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sharline Chiang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sharline Chiang Subject: NYC ravers Hi, this is Sharline. I'm new on NE-Raves and was wondering if fellow Manhattan or New Jersey ravers could get together and help initiate me in the scene. I live on the Upper West Side near Columbia U. Respond to sc218@columbia.edu. Thanks. Shar ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 10:01:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: NYC ravers In-Reply-To: <199403241435.JAA27623@holmes.umd.edu> On Thu, 24 Mar 1994, Sharline Chiang wrote: > Hi, this is Sharline. I'm new on NE-Raves and was wondering if fellow > Manhattan or New Jersey ravers could get together and help initiate me in > the scene. I live on the Upper West Side near Columbia U. Respond to wow, asking to be initiated?? :) i get this picture of grant's branding the last time he went to nyc. :) chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:47:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: video.. Yeah, I'm really sorry about that--I haven't dealt with it :( (as you can tell, I have it). Neith is next in line for it tho' so I'll send it out to her... Sorry about the delay :( Terence ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:04:05 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <24MAR94.14139721.0033.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N Subject: PLEASE HELP ME GET ON THIS LIST! hello, i really want to get on the list. what the hell am i doing wrong? can anyone help me out there? please note that my address is see-seven- oh-seven and not see-seven-zero-seven. this is a common error that inhibits mail from arriving where it should...to me! can anyone offer up any kind of explanation as to what is being done incorrectly anywhere along the line making subscription to this list damn near impossible! ciao, dj nonsense ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 12:41:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: hook ups.... hey kids, if anyone remotely cares, i'll be playing at red in the ambient room (somewhere upstairs) from 7 am - 10 am, so i invite everybody to come up, lay down, snuggle close, and do a little head dancing for a few hours (if you can tear yourself away from the beats). there's so many people i haven't met, that i could probably spend my whole set just talking to everybody, but please bear in mind that i will be :) :) :), and will probably have a hard time concentrating on spinning and conversing at the same time. so if i'm not too talkative it's not because i'm being rude. i'm so psyched for this party!!! see everybody there! lonnie a.k.a. entity btw... i will have rave the bay tickets on me, so if you have any spare $$$ that may be a good time to make the exchange. probably best to do at 10 when it's all done. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:13:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: NYC ravers In-Reply-To: <199403241435.JAA27623@holmes.umd.edu> hey sharline, my name's taylor.. i live in brooklyn (work in manhatten)..d love to help you out... be sure to come to FUTURESPACE on monday april 4th... with my band (prototype 909) and mixmaster morris ... are you new to NYC, or just to ne-raves? see ya.. >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 13:54:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sharline Chiang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sharline Chiang Subject: thanks, Re: NYC ravers In-Reply-To: <199403241818.AA05869@mailhub.cc.columbia.edu> On Thu, 24 Mar 1994, a big silver fish wrote: > hey sharline, my name's taylor.. i live in brooklyn (work in > manhatten)..d love to help you out... > > be sure to come to FUTURESPACE on monday april 4th... with my band > (prototype 909) and mixmaster morris ... > > are you new to NYC, or just to ne-raves? Taylor: Thanks for the invite. Where is Futurespace and how much will it be to get in? I'm new to ne-raves, have been in the city since last July. I grew up in New Jersey and went to college under at Rutgers. There was, still is, this awesome small dank club/bar called the Melody which was a great place to dance to techno, industrial, gothic, in its heyday. Now it's kinda mainstream, after the whole Nirvana thing. Anyway, I'm really excited. A few people have already responded from ne-raves. It's been really hard to find people with similar taste in music at Columbia - or maybe I just haven't looked around enough. My number is 212-932-9580 for future ref. Thanks piece #} Shar ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:21:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: NYC ravers In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 24 Mar 1994 09:34:30 -0500 I gladly hang out with you sometime that what p.l.u.r. is all about....... You go to Columbia? I DJed a party there once last semester...kinda weakparty but I got paid anyway hopefully they'll bring me back soon. Respond and we can make more plans... NE-raves ussually has a picnic in Central Park in the spring so stay tuned..... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:40:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: thanks, Re: NYC ravers In-Reply-To: <9403241855.AA10263@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Sharline Chiang" at Mar 24, 94 1:54 pm > it's kinda mainstream, after the whole Nirvana thing. Anyway, I'm really > excited. A few people have already responded from ne-raves. It's been > really hard to find people with similar taste in music at Columbia - or > maybe I just haven't looked around enough. > > My number is 212-932-9580 for future ref. Thanks > > piece #} > > Shar > I was just wondering....r u gonna be around this summer!@!!! I'll be living in Connecticut!!! I've got your number now....and I'm trying to organize rides to rides of considerable distance!! For example, GLOW and BIRTH....plus any others that want to be attended by a good number!! Love to all of you!! Also...this is an invite for all of you who r going to be in the NY/CT/Mass etc area to write me and give me your address (mailing) and phone numbers for this summer! Since many of us will not have access to the net, I thought it would be nice to have a phone list!!! THIS WAY WE CAN ALL GROOVE AS ONE!!! PLUR NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:42:00 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: net tape Anyone got a sub-thread on j-card design/graphics yet? . . . Neil ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 14:56:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 3/24/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Finally the weekend you've all been waiting for. Hope everyone has a fun time at Red, enjoys the groovy weather, and has a chill spring break (if you haven't already). Sorry this was two days late, but you know me and my lazy self. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 03/24/94 - ORAL * - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 506 - 9592 03/25/94 - FATHOM * - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 03/25/94 - RITES OF SPRING - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 499 - 7765 04/02/94 - PURE UNDERGROUND - Washington, DC - (703) 213 - 1751 04/02/94 - EQUILIBRIUM - Hartford, CT - (203) 646 - 6381 04/09/94 - MOTION - New York City - (212) 465 - 3290 04/09/94 - THE FORTRESS - Jersey Shore - (908) 229 - 2946 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/23/94 - FULL MOON RAVE - Upstate New York - (???) ??? - ???? 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 2+ 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 05/14/94 - PLANET EARTH - New York City - (516) 547 - 6129 05/20/94 - THE AWAKENING - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 502 - 0660 05/21/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 06/04/94 - GALAXY 2000 - Brooklyn, NY - (212) 631 - 1065 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, March 24th ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 506 - 9592 ORAL * The New Jersey Underground presents... O R A L Every Thursday from 10pm to 6am Special Guest DJ this week: Micro - Caffeine, Long Island Resident DJ's: Mars - Hard Trance/Acid - Outta Space Crew, Jersey Gee Money - Tribal House - Outta Space Crew, Jersey Jeff Manheimer - Progressive House - 106.3 FM WHTG, Jersey Sal V. - Acid house/Trance - Oral, Jersey Intelligent Lighting Lasers Smart Bar Chill-out Lounge Ample safe parking Admission: $7, $5 on reduced list call (908)506-9592 and leave your name and phone number Location: HQ, 4th and Ocean Ave in Asbury Park, NJ Promotion and Info: Mars - Jersey - (908)506-9592 Angel Asylum - Jersey - (908)972-6270 THC Prod. - Philly - (215)923-4339 Zoom - Allentown - (215)998-9650 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 25 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 FATHOM * EVERY FRIDAY "FATHOM" 10p.m.- 3a.m. Allentown, Pa. DJ's: geoffe and miko every week + special weekly guests Call the 24-hour FATHOM hotline at (610)433-0503 for upcoming events and information. UPCOMING EVENTS: March 25 - Shamrock April 1 - "No Foolin' Egg Hunt" w/ WINK Grand prize SEGA GENESIS SYSTEM to be awarded during egg hunt. May 13 - REESE May 20 - Goodwill More T.B.A. in the near future. "When we say Underground, we mean Business" _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 25th ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 RITES OF SPRING RITES OF SPRING (Vernal Equinox 2, pre-RED party) March 25th, 1994 Starts at Midnight til 6am Two Dance Floors!! DJ'S: DISCOVERY MARK SWAMI SPROCKETT KLOKWERK STINGRAY MEDICINE MAN BILL KRAMER SPACE more DJ's to be announced. 17+ with id Bowling and breakfast will be available. $8.00 admission, $2.00 off with a RED ticket. $35.00 Bus and Ticket to RED..available... RSVP ASAP... to:BIG DIPPER 518/465-6381 Rites of Spring Info line: 518/432-4784 This event is put on by SPACE Productions and the MISSION Crew. [There will be plenty of crash space for those who wish to make a weekend of this and RED there will be a bus from Albany to RED and back of course... any one need of crash space please e-mail me at yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu and soon if u can so we can organize it well as I said before this is sure to be a vibey event and all who can make it are encouraged to come we love to have people with the PLUR vibe in Albany and always strive to have PHAT parties for one and all! see yah soon :) ;). -CAT] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (617) 499 - 7765 RED (212) 886 - 5421 After months of planning, we are ready to bring you another step into the future... journey into the heated fathoms of Red, the finale in a series of primary colors. Step out of yourself and feel the surge of joy as PRIMARY PRODUCTIONS gears up to take you on a ride you will never forget! Once again PANDEMONIUM will display its talent with a massive ariel multi-beam laser assault, intelligent lighting by Martin, pyrotechnics, a full quad winch mounted moving truss structure, strobes, UV conons and other effects that will surely dazzle! TERRY HANLEY SOUND SYSTEMS (Woodstock/Life/Yellow) will construct a scaffold mounted four point dance system to ensure minimum bleed and maximum wattage density. All three rigs are designed to create absolute clarity and consistency all night long! You have been warned! A full 20 ft stage complemented by dance floor risers, and platforms. Massive 80 ft backdrops, panoramic views from the chill-out zone, indoor marquee, 15 ft video walls, tribal drummers, and much more.... TO ENSURE YOUR ENJOYMENT: - Strict Door Procedures - Full Medical and Safety Room - Patrolled Parking - Clean bathrooms - No Readmission [how does this ensure enjoyment?] - Information Booth - Full Cafe & Rest Area - 18 and Over [WHY?] - No Alcohol - R.O.A.R. Look out for... Purple N.Y.C. in the Fall Spectrum N.Y.C. Fridays begin in June Ultraviolet N.Y.C. MD & MA beginning in May [I'm there] Rainbow New England (outdoors) Summer 1994 [I'm there too!!!!] TICKETS GO ON SALE MARCH 1ST 1994 $15.00 until March 10 $20.00 until March 23 $25.00 day of Last day for ticket purchase Wednesday March 23 1994 (Ticket prices may vary on buses) 24-HOUR INFORMATION: (617)-499-7765 (212)-886-5421 Primary Productions are: 333 MGEE MELLO Promotional Strenth: NEW YORK BOSTON WORLD -------- ------ ----- Mello/Primary Primary Tiga/DNA dennis the menace & All Done Chemistry/Harmony joint ventures/S.U.N. Mindwarp K.C. & the Sunrise Gang Eddie Van Raven/S.U.N. Central Pivot Atom & Warped Papa/Zooted Dezel Balu Trepp Vibe Tribe Sugarbabe Scooter D.J. Fluffhead Alan Sanctuary S.E.S. Productions Up North Ultraworld Big Dipper Angel A.C.M.E T.H.C. Kort & Greg Muse Chris Styles Heather United Techno TRANSPORT & INFORMATION Boston ------ PRIMARY- (617) 499 7765 All Done Posse- (617) 576 8353 Mindwarp- (617) 499 4848 Vibe Tribe- (508) 877 0790 New York -------- Brooklyn-Joint Ventures- (212) 629 2061 Long Isl.-Eddie Van Raven- (516) 925 2011 Manhattan-PRIMARY- (212) 885 5421 Alan Sanctuary- (212) 696 8939 Up State-Up North Prod- (914) 256 0445 Big Dipper- (518) 465 6381 New Jersey ---------- Scooter- (212) 631 1033 Angel- (908) 972 6270 Philadelphia ------------ T.H.C. Productions- (215) 923 4339 Washington D.C. --------------- Muse Productions- (202) 452 7663 Scientific Images- (202) 828 0749 Baltimore --------- Ultraworld- (410) 880 7031 Providence ---------- Balu- (401) 454 6028 Montreal -------- Tiga\DNA- (514) 854 6446 Maine ----- K.C. & the sunrise gang- (207) 773 6979 Vermont ------- Mothership- (802) 658 3736 Connecticut ----------- Atom & Warped Prod- (203) 454 6643 Please, if you would like to take a bus, help out your promoter by booking early! TICKET OUTLETS [what I got these for] -------------- Modern Music- Baltimore- (410) 523 1882 Music now!- Washington D.C.- (202) 638 3272 Groove records- Brooklyn- (718) 714 5352 Allston Beat- Boston- (617) 421 9555 Devious Mind- Boston- (617) 421 9066 Boston Beat- Boston- (617) 247 2428 Liquid Sky- Manhattan- (212) 343 0532 Lunasea- Providence- (401) 272 5862 Mothership- Vermont- (902) 658 3736 Juan & Juanita- Montreal- (514) 847 2292 ****D*****J****'****S**** DARREN EMERSON FRANKIE BONES GUY D.M.C Underworld Groove NYC/DMC Records Ministry of Sound FABIO PARAS SCOTT HENRY TIGA Junior Boys Own DC Fever/Buzz Montreal/DNA Drum Club TIN TIN 333 DEBO Warp Records Dogs Bollocks Stress Records Club UK Boston Mindwarp/Boston ONIONZ M-GEE SAMEER Dogs Bollocks LI Caffeine Boston ARMAND OSHEEN RYDE NYC Strictly Rhythm/Sorted RI Renegade Records NJ Smooth Groove JOESKI BRUNO TROPOSPHERE N.Y.C. Chocolate Factory Boston - The Loft NYC DMC Records ANDREW & ARNAUD OF ENTITY SOUL SLINGER INTERCHILL Baltimore - Ultraworld NYC Liquid Sky Universal Egg Records MR. KLEEN NYC Net Morning Glory with... KING BRITT JAZZY NICE Digable Planets Giant Step and MORE Philly New York SATURDAY MARCH 26th 1994 10:00 PM TO 10:00 AM THE ROYAL PLAZA TRADE CENTER FITCHBURG MASSACHUSETTS PRIMARY PRODUCTIONS - SHINE ON - CENTRAL PIVOT _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 2 WASHINGTON, DC (703) 213 - 1751 PURE UNDERGROUND John and Mike of MUSE Productions presents PURE UNDERGROUND An outdoor, outlaw party for DC Dj's Suzy Cyclone MkW Rob Gardner Ivan G. of PHAT Jester Bleu (Fever Finalist) A $3 donation is what we ask.........thats it oh PS call 703-213-1751 for info _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 2 HARTFORD, CT (203) 646 - 6381 EQUILIBRIUM United Techno's Mr.Trash Presents: E Q U I L I B R I U M 9 PM SATURDAY APRIL 2 HARTFORD, CONNECTICUT Happy Jimmy Crash Troposphere Micro Frankie Bones Space Ace Ryde Scott Richmond Mr. Trash Pscy Joeski James Christian Visuals by: Eno One Acme Labratories Optical Delusion Smart Bar by Liquid Technology United Techno 203 646-6381 Scooter 212 631-1033 Danny Boy 617 881-3797 Alan Sanctuary 212 696-8938 Kort & Greg 516 547-7118 Eddie Van Raven 516 925-2011 Acme Labs 914 463-9350 Big Dipper 518 465-6381 Up North 914 256-0445 10X Dope 203 782-2301 Warped 203 454-6643 $15 the day of the event _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 3290 MOTION M O T I O N April 9th, 1994 Masters of Sound: frankie bones jimmy crash tiga onionz micro james christian k-5 papa Motion Line: 212.465.3290 Motion is a proud supporter of S.U.N. Summer '94 $12 tickets available at Groove Records 718.714.5232 DJ Records 516.667.1112 Chop Shop 516.354.0606 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 JERSEY SHORE (908) 229 - 2946 THE FORTRESS "T H E F O R T R E S S" Saturday, April 9th 3 sound systems, 2 chill-out rooms DJ's: Hell Psychotrope Download XTC Blackout Denard Gee Money Mars Time: Midnight - Dawn [More info to come] Location in Jersey Shore area and will be announced day before event via the info line... INFO: (908) 229 - 2946 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME (202) 452 - 7662 PLASMA1000@aol.com BALTIMORE WASHINGTON ANNAPOLIS *** Pleasuredome94 *** In an effort to groove you to ultimate sadistic pleasure, we have assembled 30 Techno marksmen from around the globe taking part in a three ring circus of sound, illumination and trance-endence. Live on Stage 1: BABY FORD - Exclusive and direct from London UK PROTOTYPE909 - Instinct Records NY 1.8.7 - High Voltage Pittsburgh DAVE ANGEL - Exclusive and direct - R&S Records London UK COLIN FAVER - Exclusive and direct - KISS FM/Deep Space UK KEOKI - Disco2000 NY DMITRY - Deee Lite NY Jason Jinx - NASA NY DJ Gerret - Humate/Superstition Records GDR Rob Dyno - Energizer BALT. James Christian - Future Shock NY Greg Sargent - Magic 3 Beyond BALT. Speed Demon - Thermonuke DC Stage 2: Kieth Kennebeck - Energizer GDR On-e - NASA/Deee Lite NY Who - Move DC Sketti - Phat DC Lee - Natural PHILLY Oddessy - BBC PHILLY David J - MusicNow DC Karl Matthews - DC House Project DC Bobble - Sonic Soul BALT. Double 07 - D.O.G. DC Michael C - DC Stage 3: Mr. Kleen - Sputnik/NET NY DJ Reese - Astralwerks NY Dietrich - Prototype909/Instinct NY Acid - Spacenet DC LG - Sonic Soul BALT. Sun - Ultraworld BALT. Trevor Lamont - Zenith DELAWARE Tiff & Method1 - Live Ambience/TranceFused RICH. MKW - Muse DC J.R. Humphrey - North Carolina Travel accomodations: Super Travel NY Mutual Travel SEATTLE Booking: Dy.Na.Mix SAN FRANCISCO/UK Happy Colors NY Lights and booming bass effects by Apple Sound and lighting BALTIMORE Ticket Sales: MusicNow - DC 202-638-3272 Modern Music - BALT. 410-523-1882 Zenith - DELAWARE 302-764-9272 BBC - PHILLY 215-592-1415 Advance sales will be limited to 1000 tickets spread through these 4 locations. All other tickets may be purchased at the venue on the night of the event. Advanced tickets will be available up to Wednesday, April 6 store closing. Advanced $17, $20 otherwize - not a bad price for such quality artists. If you need a flyer or bus trip info, contact the information lines or e-mail to PLASMA1000@aol.com INFO LINES: DC 202-452-7662 BALT. 410-347-1460 A portion of the proceeds from this event will be donated to Stop the Aids and the Urban League. Doors open at 9:30 pm - the festivities will continue until the last person leaves. Please- No graffitti, glass, alcohol or illicit substances. This event is open to all ages, creeds, genders, nationalities, sexual preferences, dialects, and headwear types. Vendors welcome- just purchase a ticket. Free techno/trance/house tapes courtesy of Instinct Records - limited supplies. PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME PLEASUREDOME *************************************************** A colaboration of Energizer, Plasma, Sandman and Apple productions....... _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 UPSTATE NEW YORK (???) ??? - ???? FULL MOON RAVE Gearhead & The Mission Crew Present the first in this summer's series of FULL MOON RAVES. in a location w/in one hour of albany, NY--a spot central to the entire north east, we bring you a free, Private Party underneath the stars. The space is amazing...far from society, and quite far from trouble. Surrounded on three sides by woods, and the fourth by open field for miles, and above by starry, clear skies w/o city light interference, this site is spiritual and perfect for this event. Here's how it works: limited attendance of 180. In order to gain a spot, you must get a pass from one of the designated promoters. This is not exclusively a Net event, though there will be a great net influence. All difinitive information that is not covered in this or subsequent posts will be available through the promoters by word of mouth only. The space is secure, we have the sound system (10,000watts) and dj's are tba. Most likely it will go for 12 hours: 10pm until 10am. There will be a huge bonfire, and possibly a chill out 12ft. high tee pee. Camping may be allowed, although unconfirmed at this point in time. Directions will be released 24hrs in advance to the promoters. There will be a 5$ charge per car & 15$ per van parking fee.....to cover our expenses. The passes should be available by Rites of Spring (albany, March 25th) from me personally, and the following week from the listed promoters. here are the net-affiliated promoters: PA: Jenn-Bug-smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu MA: Sprockett -kumquat@acs.bu.edu MA: Jetta vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu MA (west) Donato - donato@world.std.com RI: Speed Racer -jpit4903@uriacc.uri.edu NY (west) Darshan - djesrani@center.colgate.edu NY (north) Cat - yweiss@scott.skidmore.edu NY (south) FiSH - squazi@csws7.ic.sunysb others will be added. At this point in time, PLEASE do NOT mail the above promoters in regards to obtaining passes. I have posted their names and addresses only as a means to provide general information, nothing more. Most questions will be answered by the next FMR post....have patience until then. Dj's interested in spinning... there are a FEW spots remaining. if you wish to be considered, you MUST send a tape. The only exception is if i have heard you spin before. send the tape (even if its only one side) to: Sprockett, FMR demo, 140 Bay State Road, Box 1248, Boston, MA 02215 tapes should be in my hands no later than April 2nd. If you wish to give it to me personally, i will be at Rites of Spring, Red, and Equilibrium. thank you for your time, I hope you will decide to join us. there is always something special about a FMR. Lets make this one amazing. -sprockett _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN KC & the Sunrise Gang together with Pandemonium bring you... ****10**** Saturday, April 23rd Celebrating two years and ten major events Portland Maine 9pm until dawn and then some! Under the bright beautiful moon of spring KC & Pandemonium invite you to our tenth endless night of PURE bliss, hands reaching SKY HIGH, DEEP grooves, and GRINning ravers. Join our CRUSADE for the blinding truth and a phat vibe! Declare your INDEPENDANCE, don't cry MAYDAY and journey with us TOO DEEP into the future, on our mission to make the planet GRIN AGAIN! (207) 773-6979 Look for our mid-winter micro-raves coming soon! _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 2 + 3 @ GSC1@Lehigh.Edu [rescheduled and combined with Timewarp 2] 9 p.m. - 6 a.m. (After-party to follow sponsored by LV Bass Junkies-Location T.B.A.) Come join us as we become "Lost in Cyberspace." All roads lead to the Lehigh Valley. ZONE 1: "MARS" ADAM X JIMMY CRASH JAMES CHRISTIAN DIESELBOY AND GEOFFE two-hour breakbeat in yer face jam w/ MC MIKE B IKON ZONE 2: "VENUS" WINK DB SCOTT RICHMOND GOODWILL MIKO ZONE 3: "NEPTUNE" URSOL LAZLO CONSPIRACY 3 giant rooms all in a one-hundred year old remodeled warehouse. 20-Foot Video Projections by HIGH RISE GROUP, Lazers by PAWN, I-Lighting; Concessions by Loop, Direct From Mars, Fusion. Smart Bar by DNA. Giveaways by Moonshine,Instinct, Nova Mute and more. Sound by Decibel Productions. Door by "Hoopla Squad." Security tight but nice. Doors open 8:30 p.m. Tickets available at door only night of the event. INFO./DIRECTIONS: THE FREIGHT YARD "FATHOM" 24-HOUR INFO. LINE: (610)433-0503 geoffe (610)758-9969 FLYERS by A&A in your area soon. Interested in Promo and want to get in on the V.I.P. list? Send e-mail to GSC1@Lehigh.Edu by April 1. DIRECTIONS: Take Routes I-78, 309, 33, Pa. Turnpike to Route 22. Exit at Fullerton Ave. Head South. Make a right turn(on to Tilghman St.) where you can't go straight anymore due to street turning one-way. At second light make a right.(Linden St.) At Antique Market sign make a left. Make a right turn in between the two warehouses(Court St.) and unite. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 14 NEW YORK CITY (516) 547 - 6129 PLANET EARTH Essence presents... P L A N E T E A R T H Saturday May 14, 1994 (516)547-6129 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, May 20th ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 502 - 0660 THE AWAKENING DJs : Adam X - Micro - James Christian - Dave Trance Mars - Sal V. - Glenn Garcia _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW the Reaction Chamber the Phat room DJ SUN OSHEEN SCOTT HENRY F I L ASTROBOY TERRY MULLEN DAVID J + 2 MORE T.B.A. GREG SEARGENT + 2 MORE T.B.A. the COOLANT AREA ENTITY \ ____ LIVE AMBIENT WORDMOSES / + 2 MORE T.B.A. the GOODIES: 10 WATT LASER INTELLIBEAMS IN ONE ARENA GOLDSCANS IN THE OTHER + MORE COOL LIGHTING SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE MIND MACHINES SMART BAR LIVE VISUALS BY DOUBLE HELIX COMPUTER GRAPHICS PROJECTIONS SERIOUS BLACK LIGHTING (get yer clothes ready!) 1000 FREE GLOWSTICKS (multi-colored army issue!) FREE AFTER PARTY from 9 am - 2 pm 2000 of your closest friends. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 4 BROOKLYN, NY (212) 631 - 1065 GALAXY 2000 (718) 714 - 5232 Brooklyn's combined forces present the goods GALAXY 2000 leaving earth: *Saturday June 4, 1994* Trancecore DJ's: Frankie Bones Jimmy Crash Heather Heart James Christian Adam X Carlos Tera Dave Trance K-5 plus guests and a separate chill-zone... *free toys and 20K of pounding noise* Respects Due: Storm, S.U.N., STOP, Spice, F.B.I., Motion Posse (LI), Mental Unity INFO PHONES: 212-631-1065, 718-714-5232 Prepare to blast off this June! *Brooklyn's True Underground Returns* And to the blanket posse, stay the fuck home! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- END OF FILE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 15:51:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: red:) well....if you haven't all gotten the post about us being there, we will:) miss treat and i will be attending red along with our snoKone machine and all of the fixin's. soooo stop by, say hi and get your free snoKone! hope to see you all there and i hope that if you can't make it, that you have a super phat weekend!:) peaz out..peppermint patty:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 16:07:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Brian Shaad Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Brian Shaad Please unsubscribe superboy@acs.bu.edu thanx! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:54:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , arpalists+music.ne-raves@ANDREW.CMU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: arpalists+music.ne-raves@ANDREW.CMU.EDU Subject: Please subscribe us List-Maintainer: Please add the following line to your ne-raves@umdd.umd.edu mailing list: arpalists+music.ne-raves@andrew.cmu.edu This will gateway your mailing list into our internal message system, where any of the 10,000+ users at Andrew can choose to participate in the discussion. Thank you. Andrew Postmaster Group ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:53:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , arpalists+ne-raves@ANDREW.CMU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Please unsubscribe us List-Maintainer: Please remove the following line to your ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu mailing list: arpalists+ne-raves@andrew.cmu.edu Thank you. Andrew Postmaster Group ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 19:20:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: NYC ravers >Hi, this is Sharline. I'm new on NE-Raves and was wondering if >fellow >Manhattan or New Jersey ravers could get together and help initiate >me in >the scene. I live on the Upper West Side near Columbia U. hello, wonder what exactly this means... ;) groovybass@aol.com LoCaTiOn: NJ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 17:13:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: New Controversy? In-Reply-To: <199403231801.NAA21679@holmes.umd.edu> danFREELove writes: > Hey, I am bouncing an idea around in my head. > > Okay, I have noticed that their are alot of Net Ravers who aren't > directly connected to the Internet. Some of them are on they pay > services (like AOL, Compu$erve, Prodigy). I am wondering if the > CyberTribe would mind if I called over to the services and see about > getting an NE Raves forum put up that connects us to them, without them > having to pay for every letter that comes across the NE Raves list. I On AOL there is no per-message-received charge, so for an AOL user being on NE-Raves isn't too costly, although I must say that it's cheaper to use an account with an InterNet provider than to use an account on _any_ of the commercial services for mailing list participation. On CI$ and Prodigy, this sounds like a great idea, but good luck getting help from the staffs :-) If it can be done, I'm all for it, but I don't think we can expect too much from the services. > don't know how viable it is, I don't even know if it is possible. The > possibilities exist that they may be able to get a one way connection but > be unlisted on the list and just see what we write without being able to > write back directly. I am wondering if you folks would have problems > with this. I'm for it. - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 20:50:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , speed racer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: speed racer Subject: Re: Meeting Place 4 RED In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 23 Mar 1994 22:08:59 -0500 from jill can you send me directions to the picnic for red? thanks! *hugs* joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 21:45:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: hello all i have a slight complaint, does any one else have the following problem? when i post my views, information, and other assorted nonsense on vrave, i do it to stimulate the minds, open the minds, and look into tht minds of all the other lovely people on this list, this listserver is full of new upcoming talents, and seasoned professionals in the techno/rave culture. at times i feel honored to be on the same server as some of the excellant talents that subscribe to ne-raves, such as taylor deupree/taylor 808, DJ Mars, and many others that i don't have time to name. i offer views that come from me, an induvidual that is very happy that you don't know what i look like, but respect who i am and what i am doing to help the techno/rave community. if you look at "sfraves", you will see 50 listings that don't have a thing to do with raving, or music at all, that is why i feel ne-raves is a much nicer place, and much more focused. however.... there are dissenters and people who seem to be here just to give me hell and criticize everything i say or do. i never said that what I say is the ultimate word, and at every posting, i hint at the fact that i would like feedback to what i write... i don't want a diatribe! am i the only one that gets beat down for everything i say or do? just wondering. "This IS Acid." -P909 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 21:52:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: DJ needing a place to stay Ok, Cybertribe. I am happy to announce that I have been asked by Spam (of the infamous Future Groove) to be a resident DJ for a new club opening in Long Island VERY soon spinning breakbeat as well as at Caffeine spinning house. Since I live in Philly, this is a rather far endeavour and I need to ask a favor of any fellow Tribepeople out there. Until I get myself situated in Long Island, I would really appreciate it if soomeone or someones could possible host me in my time of transition. This will probably take place 1 month from now and only last 1 weekend. Then, I will relegate myself to the m/hotel thing from then on whenever I am in LI for the weekends. Strange, huh? Well, as other DJ will agree, anything to spin. :) Well, enuff wasting bandwidth. PLUR. PaniK ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 19:10:14 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: Re: hello all 1000 lamented the signal-to-noise ratio and flamage that are part and parcel of net-communities . . . . I am on sfraves, ne-raves, mtnraves, and vrave, and I gotta tell you 1000, it goes in cycles. There are times when ne-raves is a completely useless flame-fest, and there are times (like right now) when sfraves is pretty barren (all they are talking about is the proper dosage of magic mushrooms and that's really bothering me). I'm especially upset with the lack of musical discussion on sfraves, but I have been too busy to write musical reviews of what I've been buying and hearing so I really feel I have no right to complain because I'm not currently doing anything constructive to change things. I will say that attitude plays a big part, and to see someone get on vrave talking like they know everything "are you down with the underground if so I can get you Lenny Dee at your party" is rather offputting. Name dropping is particularly annoying, it takes a bit of tact to be enthusiastic and helpful about your connections without sounding like you are a star-fucker or a show-off. There was this one person who used to go on and on about how he would "educate us" about the Brooklyn scene, not realizing how annoying he sounded since many of us had been partying in Brooklyn, shopping at Groove, and even spinning with Adam and Heather for months before this person subscribed to ne-raves. So anyway, that is net-dynamics for you. It will get better for a while, and it will get worse. Sometimes it gets so bad for me I take vacations for the net community, and sometimes it is so wonderful that I quit my job and move my entire life 3000 miles to be part of something good. Try not to let it get you down. God knows sometimes it reduces me to tears, but must of you know I'm highly emotional anyway. The best thing to do is to keep a sense of humor and humility about yourself, and don't assume that people are less "educated," less "down with the scene," or less well-connected than you are. Most of all, just because you get in an argument with someone a few times it doesn't mean you hate each other. From his postings on the net I used to think my boyfriend was the ultimate feel-good naieve hippy nerd, and he thought I was a real caustic bitch. We live together now and will probably get married and have lots of babies who will all learn to DJ by the time they can talk :-) You never know. Take care, Love and Community, Laura ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:23:29 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent #33 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent #33 Subject: Re: hello all In-Reply-To: <199403250246.VAA03663@holmes.umd.edu> welcome to the net...where when you say something wrong everyone lets you know. i'm not saying that you said anything wrong, as i can't even remember what you wrote when people wrote responses, but there is a great deal of knowledge about the whole encompassing "rave scene" on this list, and if you say something that sounds a bit screwy, people let you know. i don't think really anyone is hostile in their responses, so i don't see a problem. chris -- The four building blocks of the universe * Finger for pgp key. are fire, water, gravel and vinyl. * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:25:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: DJ needing a place to stay In-Reply-To: <9403250253.AA28098@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "DJ PaniK" at Mar 24, 94 9:52 pm > > Ok, Cybertribe. I am happy to announce that I have been asked by Spam > (of the infamous Future Groove) to be a resident DJ for a new club > opening in Long Island VERY soon spinning breakbeat as well as at > Caffeine spinning house. Since I live in Philly, this is a rather far > endeavour and I need to ask a favor of any fellow Tribepeople out there. > Until I get myself situated in Long Island, I would really appreciate it > if soomeone or someones could possible host me in my time of transition. > This will probably take place 1 month from now and only last 1 weekend. > Then, I will relegate myself to the m/hotel thing from then on whenever I > am in LI for the weekends. Strange, huh? Well, as other DJ will agree, > anything to spin. :) Well, enuff wasting bandwidth. PLUR. > > PaniK > I think that I could play host to you for the weekend...and possibly longer if necessary! I'll be living in Connecticut at home...It's one hour from Long Islnad....and I may be a ble to give you a ride! I met you at Furte(Future Groove---> sorry somethings wring with my tyoping and the seystem today!!! GEESH!) I met you at Future Groove!! Rmember me??? Anyway, if you can't find anytning more convienient then let me know and you're more tham welcome!! PLUR NEd!(Snappleboy!) ChucklEs buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 22:38:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Re: hello all In-Reply-To: <94Mar24.222731edt.73801-3@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>; from "secret agent #33" at Mar 24, 94 10:23 pm With email, and not having to talk to people face to face, everyone is (usually) more emotional in their responses. (ie, this equals flames.) it's just one of the things one must accept that come with the territory. plur! _______ ____ _ _ __ John \ __ _ ___ ____ />/^> .....---:-::::==///|||\\___ Sweeney |____Harmon-e \___ /^\ /?-- ______ ____ ___ _ _ _ _____ ----^-^--- / jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu ) j u s t w a i t . . . / <__>->___<__-><>---<-_> (_________________ __ _ __ _____ ___ _/ +---+----+-----+------+ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 23:26:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer Subject: start the panik In-Reply-To: <199403250253.VAA03718@holmes.umd.edu> from "DJ PaniK" at Mar 24, 94 09:52:49 pm panik, > Ok, Cybertribe. I am happy to announce that I have been asked by Spam > (of the infamous Future Groove) to be a resident DJ for a new club > opening in Long Island VERY soon spinning breakbeat as well as at > Caffeine spinning house. congratulations! hey..i was wondering if you could flow me spams email address. i need to ask him a few questions about his new club. he hinted at me spinning there this summer also (!) and i wanted to check it out. thanx man..and let me know about the PSU thing... damian / dB ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:08:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Acidheads Cybertribe, Through the gloomy depths of the sinister Argentinian underground depths of my ever so fiery eternal soul, I find myself pondering this question time and time again: I am very well aware that house music was around before techno, but isn't it the acidhouse turned acidetcetera scene that kept techno mutating for its benefit (like the ever so dreadful HIV virus)????? Call me keeerazy and I know some of you think thats a given...:P but I really feel that acid will never die, go outta style, go commercial, etc, etc, etc, etc.. While we're on the topic of acid, has anyone heard any incredible new midtempo-uptempo acid lately...I've genetically adopted a few acid genes which have me bouncing like a monkey on PCP, crack, and the finest meth from Jupiter. Thanks for the input... Seeya at your next insane asylum (layman's terms: RAVE) >BD S p e e d D e m o n p.s. once a mercenary, always a twisted psychopath . / ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 00:12:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Cross-post Would someone please cross-post my last message to as many ...raves sites possible..I'm seeking truthful opionons from around the US and globe Thanx a million, plus a box of condoms (Trojans of course) >:D Your Sinister Psychiatrist S p e e d D e m o n p.s. main reason is I have no clue how to reforward it..:( ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 03:54:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: EMERGENCY red ride In-Reply-To: <199403231801.NAA21679@holmes.umd.edu> paul paul needs ride from Providence one way to RED got stiffed on possiblerride w/ new acquaintance. will pay gas tolls LD call to me, other props in future ETC, call me at home milhaus 401 861 - 4238 or work friday night 401 454 1459 FLUR- paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:28:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Re: Acidheads In-Reply-To: <199403250508.AAA04592@holmes.umd.edu> from "NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU" at Mar 25, 94 00:08:22 am valentin: my pal and hardcore buddy: mike ink has a great new thingie...they call this acid EP out its on force X records..great stuff biochipc and pals have a SHARK BITES double 12" on rising high rekkids those are just 2 suggestions for starters. WaZZuP??!/ Harry ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 12:20:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBERT71@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBERT71@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: ride needed badly Dear ne-ravers, I'm in Cortland and would really like to go to Pleasure Dome on the 9th, but I haven't heard or seen of any one going there from this area or anyone willing to drive from this remote NYS area. Please if anyone can provide a ride there and back or have heard of anyone from this area going, please inform me of their or your whereabouts. Thanks very much and really hope to hear from someone out there soon. Corey ....My number is 607-753-4583 if anyone wants to get in direct touch with me. thanks again. I go to Suny Cortland in actuality,if you really want to know. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 13:18:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Juliane Knadle Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Juliane Knadle Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Please unsubscribe me. Julie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 11:58:08 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Laura La Gassa Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Laura La Gassa Subject: homesick I really miss you all and as much as I hate big raves with 100 DJs and all sorts of rules about what I can and can't bring in to the location, I wish I were going to RED. We don't have that kind of family-reunion feeling out here in San Francisco as far as I can tell. I'm coming back East in August for my cousin's wedding in Manhattan. I will do my damndest to get to a party with you all when I am there. Love and community, Laura ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 15:18:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Daniel J Nadeau Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Daniel J Nadeau Subject: Re: Acidheads In-Reply-To: <199403251653.LAA07150@holmes.umd.edu> On Fri, 25 Mar 1994, WaZZuP! wrote > mike ink has a great new thingie...they call this acid EP out > its on force X records..great stuff I could be wrong, but do you mean Mark Ink? Peace and all, Dan P.S. Can't wait to see y'all at RED! Yee-Haw! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 15:52:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: Acidheads > From NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU Fri Mar 25 15:49:43 1994 > On Fri, 25 Mar 1994, WaZZuP! wrote > > > mike ink has a great new thingie...they call this acid EP out > > its on force X records..great stuff > > > I could be wrong, but do you mean Mark Ink? Nope, he means Mike Ink. And let me tell ya, it's one of my favorites right now! dave ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17:04:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jill M. Charette" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jill M. Charette" Subject: RED attendees ok these are the people who told me they are coming to RED: Jo from SF Jill (me) Mark FiSH julian & jenberry donato vanessa (jetta) chris mellow jeannie pholida bill john shiple (handi) hossam mikebee kara oz joe (speed racer) dan from unh dj entox bob baxter ed (SLiP) & eileen + 2 more i know there are more of you out there that i suspect are going so we'll see you there look for the neraves banner *hugs* jill ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17:06:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: to 1000 In-Reply-To: <199403250310.WAA03833@holmes.umd.edu> I second everything Laura sais---> she's right on Listen a bit don't be bitter, she's right on you're not by yourself I could use a few tips too just swallow and realize it makes us all better esp. you. it might be hard i've been somewheres out there i know sorry to be public & sound presumptuous; best I can do now paul paul On Thu, 24 Mar 1994, Laura La Gassa wrote: > 1000 lamented the signal-to-noise ratio and flamage that are > part and parcel of net-communities . . . . > > I am on sfraves, ne-raves, mtnraves, and vrave, and I gotta tell you > 1000, it goes in cycles. There are times when ne-raves is a completely > useless flame-fest, and there are times (like right now) when > sfraves is pretty barren (all they are talking about is the > proper dosage of magic mushrooms and that's really bothering me). > > I'm especially upset with the lack of musical discussion on > sfraves, but I have been too busy to write musical reviews > of what I've been buying and hearing so I really feel I have > no right to complain because I'm not currently doing anything > constructive to change things. > > I will say that attitude plays a big part, and to see someone > get on vrave talking like they know everything "are you down > with the underground if so I can get you Lenny Dee at your party" > is rather offputting. Name dropping is particularly annoying, > it takes a bit of tact to be enthusiastic and helpful about > your connections without sounding like you are a star-fucker > or a show-off. > > There was this one person who used to go on and on about how > he would "educate us" about the Brooklyn scene, not realizing > how annoying he sounded since many of us had been partying > in Brooklyn, shopping at Groove, and even spinning with Adam > and Heather for months before this person subscribed to ne-raves. > > So anyway, that is net-dynamics for you. It will get better for > a while, and it will get worse. Sometimes it gets so bad for > me I take vacations for the net community, and sometimes it is > so wonderful that I quit my job and move my entire life 3000 miles > to be part of something good. Try not to let it get you down. > God knows sometimes it reduces me to tears, but must of you > know I'm highly emotional anyway. > > The best thing to do is to keep a sense of humor and humility > about yourself, and don't assume that people are less "educated," > less "down with the scene," or less well-connected than you are. > > Most of all, just because you get in an argument with someone a > few times it doesn't mean you hate each other. From his postings > on the net I used to think my boyfriend was the ultimate feel-good > naieve hippy nerd, and he thought I was a real caustic bitch. We > live together now and will probably get married and have lots of > babies who will all learn to DJ by the time they can talk :-) > > You never know. > > Take care, > > Love and Community, > > Laura > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 17:46:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Suarez E Corporation Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Suarez E Corporation Electronic Postal Service (EPS) Registration Information Here's how you can reduce commercial e-mail on the Internet and make money for yourself at the same time. Electric Postal Service will pay you money to receive commercial e-mail. EPS estimates you will be paid an average of 6.5 cents per commercial e-mail message. It is estimated that the average commercial e-mail receiver can make $200.00 to $500.00 a year and likely more. There is absolutely no charge, periodic charge, hourly charge or phone charge to receive or review EPS commercial e-mail. 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Your free EPS e-mail post office box access information will be mailed to you. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 15:08:12 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neil Rest Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neil Rest Subject: Re: signal-to-noise ratio, flamage It's a little like brush fires. You get a crop of relatively green newbies; someone gets excited; people are at a high energy level anyway, and haven't learned the sorts of restraint, clarity and coutesy necessary in the long run; FLAME-ON. A couple of people may give up (Laura, please don't be one!), the survivors are more harmonious, and next week, someone else joins the list who has no memory of it all. . . The cycle is everywhere on the net. Just let it go by; This too shall pass, Neil ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 18:26:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: RED attendees In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Mar 94 17:04:55 -0500. <9403252202.AA28063@MIT.EDU> >ok these are the people who told me they are coming to RED: >Jo from SF >Jill (me) >Mark >FiSH >julian & jenberry >donato >vanessa (jetta) >chris mellow >jeannie >pholida >bill >john shiple (handi) >hossam >mikebee >kara >oz >joe (speed racer) >dan from unh >dj entox >bob baxter >ed (SLiP) & eileen + 2 more JimmY |-|/\t (maybe) i know there are more of you out there that i suspect are going so we'll see you there look for the neraves banner *hugs* jill ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 18:30:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: homesick In-Reply-To: <9403251958.AA22932@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Laura La Gassa" at Mar 25, 94 11:58 am > I really miss you all and as much as I hate big raves > with 100 DJs and all sorts of rules about what I can > and can't bring in to the location, I wish I were going > to RED. > > We don't have that kind of family-reunion feeling out > here in San Francisco as far as I can tell. > > I'm coming back East in August for my cousin's wedding > in Manhattan. I will do my damndest to get to a party > with you all when I am there. > > Love and community, > > Laura > You'd better Laura!!!! I'll be in CT......I'm trying to get people together to go to events as a big loving group!!! If you want my number this summer will be (203)-222-8423! laters and PLUR -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 19:04:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: RED tix I posted that I had tix for RED-- some of you have responded. I do have tix for the pre-3/23 price (it went up $5 since wednesday, but I have them for the "discounted" (as it were) price) If you want tix, let me know ASAP and ALSO let me know *when* I can get them to you. I will be at Axis tonight and will be in the Boston area all day tomorrow before RED. I don't know if waiting until we get to the door to get you the tix would be such a great idea, so let me know. I've got 5 left... e-mail jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu or call 617.283.1944 latah wfs jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 19:20:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donyee@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Donald Yee Subject: Re: RED tix In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Mar 94 19:04:57 -0500. <9403260005.AA06641@MIT.EDU> Hi Jetta I would like some, three if you still have that many, or as many as you can get me if you have less (i.e. 2 or 1) don 'm gonna call too, but I'm on-line right now so I figured I'd still respond while I'm on. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 19:31:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donyee@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Donald Yee Subject: Re: RED tix In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Mar 94 19:04:57 -0500. <9403260005.AA06641@MIT.EDU> Ooh duhhh... Where will I be- tonight at WMBR (Memorial Drive Cambridge, MIT) from midnight to whenever (4AM?) 253-8810. At home or around town (Cambridge Bosston wherever) tomorrow. 617-491-2187 don ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Mar 1994 18:59:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JEN KANE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JEN KANE Subject: Re: Rites of Spring : This Friday hello all!:), just wanted to let all of you know, that rites of spring is now 16 and up with id...also, all of you who are interested and/or an avid fan of breakbeat, there will be ALOT of it spun here!!!:):) hope to see some of you at this event, it is sure to be phat!:) peaz out...peppermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 03:51:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: Rites of Spring : This Friday In-Reply-To: <199403260519.AAA12353@holmes.umd.edu> JEN KANE writes: > hello all!:), > just wanted to let all of you know, that rites of spring is now 16 and up > with id...also, all of you who are interested and/or an avid fan of you know, it just struck me kind of funny: how many 16 year-olds have ID? none of my friends did; of course, if you don't drive, you might end up like me: 20 with no ID :-) i know this has been tossed around a bit before, but i must say i think it's really stupid to see age-limits at raves. it's hardly necessary. - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 12:01:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: Re: RED tix In-Reply-To: <199403260005.TAA11070@holmes.umd.edu> from "Vanessa Wang" at Mar 25, 94 07:04:57 pm it looks like fran and I are driving up. do you still have two tix? can we still crash chez van? be well, stephen - bPa ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 12:33:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: Philly Queers! I guess you all noticed I accidentally posted to the list a private response to email. If you read it, You see that Fran and I (stephen) are coming up to MA for RED. Yup, I am forgoing responsibility and a-raving away. However, It is my responsibility to return to FItchberg as Yellow was my first NET-connected Event. Fran and I look forward to seeing all of y'all. Look for the two queers, I am sure there will be plenty more, but one of us has blue hair and many body piercings! :) be well, boyPrincealbert ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 13:01:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , dspy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: Re: Please subscribe us I don't run the list, but in order to add any address to ne-raves, you must send mail to - listserv@umdd.umd.edu with subscribe ne-raves [your address here] in either the subject line, or the message body, I don't remember, but do the same in both and it will work. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:04:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: my account moved (again) OK, I now have a "real" account! Yippie! From now on please write me at will@panix.com - should be easy to remember right? After bumping around different accounts for the past few months, I now have a permanant, stable and reliable home. Thanks to Phil Z who helped me get this SLIP/PPP account :) Just in case, I'm leaving a forwarding file on my old account in case anybody does try to reach me there but I'm losing it at the end of next month. thanks all ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 17:33:44 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Rachel J Wakefield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Rachel J Wakefield subsribe ne-raves rachelw@christa.unh.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 21:47:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: NYC PICNIC Okay maybe I should be the one to inniciate the discusion of this topic... I kmow I didn't go last year but it sounded like a cool idea....... NE-Raves picnic in Central Park.....HEY SPRING IS HERE! so what are we waiting for? in the immortal words of Ton Loc "Let's do it!" I don't remeber who organized last year( Was it you Will-e?) but a six pack of jolt cola a radio a frisbee some mix tapes and everybodies presence would be great!!!! I really haven't met a lot of you...bu hu! TOM ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:25:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: RIDES NEEDED! Heya! This is Melzie the carless begging for a ride to Pleasure Dome and/or TimeWarp.....if you can give a ride to PD, I can offer you crashspace in balto...[and other people of course].... As far as TimeWarp goes, if I can leave from either College Park or Baltimore..... Thanks :) Hugz and phun Melzie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:42:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a big silver fish Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: a big silver fish Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: PICNIC v4.0 ? well, on the topic of picnics... the weather isn't nice enough in NY yet to have picnics..but, hopefully within a month or so.. there will most definitely be one around the weekend of june 8th because eric mccormick (ex ne-raver) will be out east at that time and wants meto have a picnic.. so, jot down on your calenders for that date.. there wil be one sooner.. but, we should wait until the weather is a littlemore steady.. first sign of extended warmth, and trust me.. we will meet ! peace >>taylor ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Mar 1994 23:52:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC hey hey spring is here and yes, picnic time once again :) Tom, It was Taylor808 who held the picnics and another one is in the planning... sometime in June... of course, June is a long way away, so if anyone is interested in a spring picnic... ORGANIZE! :) that goes for the DC area and the Boston area and any other areas as well.. .. DC is great for picnics... by the monuments, the tidal basin, the cherry blossoms, Rock Creek, G R E A T F A L L S, etc..... Great Falls would be perfect.... atop the jaggin rocks by the rushing water .... Anyone interested? tina ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:29:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC >I don't remeber who organized last year( Was it you Will-e?) It was not I Thomas, but Taylor. In fact, I only made it to one last summer as Taxxi got us very lost trying to find everyone else but alas, when we arrived with music everyone was very happy to see us :) I agree about the weather too. Although it was as high as 70 on Wednesday, every other day has been in the high 30s. As the Prince song goes, "sometimes it snows in April." Let's just stick it out just a little bit longer until the time is right. It'll be worth it! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 01:47:52 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Why I wasn't at RED =( Hey all, Well, all the worry over the 18+ thing was for nothing. I ended up not going to RED! What had happened was that the car place which my friend Dan was going to rent a car from had run out of cars (!) We were without any transport. We didn't even have transport to Portland, where they were running a bus! This always seems to happen to me- I never get to raves because of transportation problems.. I need to get my license soon and get a car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh well, now I have an extra $25 to spend on records, Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:27:57 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC In-Reply-To: <9403270447.AA02094@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "WO AI TAYLOR" at Mar 26, 94 11:52 pm Tina said in reply: > > > that goes for the DC area and the Boston area and any other areas as well.. > .. > > DC is great for picnics... by the monuments, the tidal basin, the cherry > blossoms, Rock Creek, G R E A T F A L L S, etc..... > > Tina, im planning a picnic for April 9th the day that Pleasuredome is somewhere near the monuments. It should be really beautiful time since around then is when the cherry blossoms bloom :) But definately anyone that is interested in attending please drop me a line through e-mail. Specifics havent been decided but it will be a bring your own things event which also includes boomboxes, food, toys (remembered the comma this time ;) and anything else fun that could be had (i remember very well the paper and crayon stuff from the pre-essenceIII picnic that rishad brought) In case of rain rob c. has offered to open up his apartment for the gathering. for dcraves last summer before thick in may we had a picnic right near the washington monument and it was a really cool chilling out time and all before the actual event. if interested in comming email me at: dz5401a@american.edu or dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu directions and all that jazz will be coming up in a few days. _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ __________________________ feel the music soft and mellow _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ _______________ doug ) ( > > > tina > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 02:40:04 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Pre-Pleasuredome picnic Forwarded message: Tina said in reply: > > > that goes for the DC area and the Boston area and any other areas as well.. > .. > > DC is great for picnics... by the monuments, the tidal basin, the cherry > blossoms, Rock Creek, G R E A T F A L L S, etc..... > > Tina, im planning a picnic for April 9th the day that Pleasuredome is somewhere near the monuments. It should be really beautiful time since around then is when the cherry blossoms bloom :) But definately anyone that is interested in attending please drop me a line through e-mail. Specifics havent been decided but it will be a bring your own things event which also includes boomboxes, food, toys (remembered the comma this time ;) and anything else fun that could be had (i remember very well the paper and crayon stuff from the pre-essenceIII picnic that rishad brought) In case of rain rob c. has offered to open up his apartment for the gathering. for dcraves last summer before thick in may we had a picnic right near the washington monument and it was a really cool chilling out time and all before the actual event. if interested in comming email me at: dz5401a@american.edu or dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu directions and all that jazz will be coming up in a few days. _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ __________________________ feel the music soft and mellow _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ _______________ doug ) ( > > > tina > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 05:07:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DAUKAS@SCSUD.CTSTATEU.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DAUKAS@SCSUD.CTSTATEU.EDU Subject: NE-Raves Subscription Could you please add me to the mailing list of the 'ne-raves' discussion group? Thanks a million. Todd Daukas (daukas@scsud.ctstateu.edu) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 15:34:56 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Raves are Red, Here's my review... ... This party was phat, where were you? What can I say about Red? Let's see: The location: Situated in the lovely hills of Massachusetts lies the Royal Trade Plaza. Two lines, for those with and without tickets. Ficthburg's finest were present for security purposes, but they turned out to be fairly nice. Simple bag check, and you're through the door. On stage, there were these giant set of mammoth tusks, along with a replica of a sabre-toothed tiger. Thes items, along with a silhoutted T-rex, made me think of the Flinstones. There were three areas set up for dancing; the main area, where a bit of everything was played, a tent located towards the rear of the auditorium where mostly house was played, and an upstairs area offering house, jazz, and ambient. A lot of people clustered in/around the tent, but you could stay inside for too long, as the temperature and humidity resembled an evening in south Florida. Melon Dezign's visuals were stunning ... sometimes I just stopped dancing to look at the video screens. The people: There were more net-ravers present than there are toll booths along the Mass Pike (that's a lot). Saw lots of old ne-ravers, met some new ones, as well as a few surprises. I really liked the overall crows that was present last night. Lots of smiles and hi's were given. People were coming and offering me Doritos, oranges and water; that hasn't happened in a LONG time. The music: As mentioned above, a little bit of everything was played, though I didn't hear as much acid as I would have liked. Lots of smooth, groovey house helped me come down from a dancing frenzy. I left at 8:30, only to be snagged by a cop 20 miles from the site. I was clocked doing 80 mph in a 55 mph zone. The officer was really nice; he reduced the speed on the ticket to 65. This translated from a $200 fine dropping down to a $50 fine. Overall, a really great party. A bit pricey, but it helped to lay waste to the myth that big commercial parties don't make the grade. Virtually yours, Bob "I fought the law and the law won" Baxter p00284@psilink.com <-- A+ | Know your boundaries... bobthedj@aol.com <-- B+ | and cross them. bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- C+ | bobbles@cris.com <-- Unsure | Vrave = bobbles ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 16:48:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Re: Acidheads In-Reply-To: <199403252052.PAA09089@holmes.umd.edu> from "Dave McMahon" at Mar 25, 94 03:52:05 pm > > > From NE-RAVES@UMDD.UMD.EDU Fri Mar 25 15:49:43 1994 > > On Fri, 25 Mar 1994, WaZZuP! wrote > > > > > mike ink has a great new thingie...they call this acid EP out > > > its on force X records..great stuff > > > > > > I could be wrong, but do you mean Mark Ink? > > Nope, he means Mike Ink. And let me tell ya, it's one of my favorites > right now! > > dave > Hes right..i meant Mike INK anyway the biochip, walker, and friends also have a shark trax double ep out available as a release on rising high (originally on DJUNGLE) acid junkies has a great double 12x of nice acid house on DJAX it also comes with a little smiley face record bag Oricom technologies has a nice acid EP thats about 4 months old ciao and peace Harry ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 19:19:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC In-Reply-To: <9403270250.AA04293@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Thomas C Noe" at Mar 26, 94 9:47 pm This definitely sounds like some kewl beans!!!!! If we could possibly make it after everyone is out of school!!!! This would make it a lot better......I won't be back east until the 8-9th of May! I'll bring as many SNAPPLES as I can possibly afford!!!! So love to you all! -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 19:26:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: NYC PICNIC In-Reply-To: <9403270448.AA14898@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "WO AI TAYLOR" at Mar 26, 94 11:52 pm > > > that goes for the DC area and the Boston area and any other areas as well.. > .. All areas sound phunkadelic!!! > > DC is great for picnics... by the monuments, the tidal basin, the cherry > blossoms, Rock Creek, G R E A T F A L L S, etc..... > > > Great Falls would be perfect.... atop the jaggin rocks by the rushing water > .... Waters falls sound wonderful!!! Go for it~~` > > > Anyone interested? > SHIT YEAH!! > > tina -- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:35:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Start The Press! Well kiddies, It's that time again! If anyone would like to contribute articles, charts, poetry, pictures, muses or anything to the next issue of The Skreem (April/May) please e-mail me with what you want to contribute, or if you had an idea and are unsure about it. Anything will be appreciated.. I'm especially looking for scene reporters and people with something to say (of course..) This issue will have a transparent (trance-parent?) cover and I have to start charging 50 cents for it =( It's tough having no money to put it out! Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:53:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Your removal from the NE-RAVES list In-Reply-To: <199403221629.LAA12274@holmes.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Mar 1994, BITNET list server at UMDD wrote: > Dear subscriber, > > As of Tuesday, March the 22nd of 1994, you have been removed from the > NE-RAVES distribution list (NE Raves Discussion) by NERaves ListAdmin > . > > Virtually, > > The LISTSERV management > What happened?????????????????????? jennbug ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 21:52:34 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , rsgour Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: rsgour@AOL.COM Subject: Chaos Control update I've just started up a mailing list to send out all of the Chaos Control articles as text files by email. To subscribe, send mail to Majordomo@world.std.com with "subscribe chaoscontrol" as the message. Issue #7 of the Hypercard version will be about April 10 and includes interviews with The Orb, Autechre, P909, The Other Two, Spice Lab, DDT and more. All of these articles will be sent out over the list in a few says. To get past Hypercard issues, ftp cyberden.com (directory Zines/Chaos_Control) Feel free to email for more info. -Bob Gourley rsgour@aol.com Rgour@world.std.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 23:18:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: Raves are Red, Here's my review... 80 in a 55, aye? reminds me of when I was clocked at around 83 in a 55 after Massive Dose the fine was around... 250? and according to the peaceman, there was moderate traffic we were the only ones save for one more car almost out of sight on the road ..... also reminds me of the kindness of the NEravers- more specifically John Humphrey for posting about it and all the wonderful NEravers who sent me money to help pay for it (and Jetta for paying half!) sun(flower) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 00:15:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: YOUR BEAT / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE [3/28/94] *************** YOUR BEAT RECORDS / DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE 3/28/94 *************** *********************** "Reviews by DJ John Avery" ************************* ******************************************************************************** -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The majority of new 12"s reviewed in the UPDATE are available via mail order through Your Beat Records in Union City, NJ. If you are interested in ordering any of the following records, please contact Johnny or Ricky at YOUR BEAT RECORDS in one of the following ways and they will discuss with you the procedures for mail ordering. Readers can also send their wish lists of hard to find 12"s to the store. Your Beat Records 4608 Bergenline Avenue Union City, NJ 07087 Phone: 201-392-0089 Fax: 201-392-0185 Email: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Due to an extremely slow week at the store, the number of reviewed 12"s in this week's UPDATE, has been reduced. Next week's issue will have more reviews. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PARTY MIX RECORDS: "Eww Baby"--DJ's On Beat (PM 10194) This release gives us a more Chicago-styled house flavor and works well late in the evening. Samples of the Earth People's "Dance" and bongo work from the early Salsoul records give this a retro feel that works well in when coming down from a high-intensity set. Midway through the "Get Crazy Mix", a subsonic bassline makes things even deeper. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NERVOUS RECORDS: "Armand Van Helden Presents Jungle Juice" (NE-20085) The first thing I'll say, is buy this record ASAP. Armand Van Helden has proven himself as a purveyor of the hard tribal sound. The side B cut, "Egyptian Magician" uses a healthy dose of Middle Eastern (Egyptian???) samples worked into a hard tribal beat. For those who enjoy staying on the cutting-edge, this track shows just how possible it is to use sampling to introduce musical forms not commonly associated with dance music. For the less adventurous, a housier mix is included with the sinewy bassline that seems to be working well on many house records. The side A track uses a male vocal sample to spice up another tribal beat. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIGITAL GRAFFITI RECORDS: (frmp59a@prodigy.com) "Feel The Melody"--O.D.L. Science (DIG 231) Congratulations to Mr. Dock Drumming for putting out his first record on the new Digital Graffiti label. Side A works a deep house groove and uses a subtle female vocal sample to give it the "Feel The Melody" hook. The second mix uses a vocal introduction manipulated by the Sound Blaster computer sound card, goodbye forever to the Vocoder. "Gone Into Action" on the B-side is an impressive hip-hop cut using a variety of dancehall and hip-hop samples (most notably, Das EFX's "They Want EFX"). If you're a hip-hop DJ, definitely go with the "Gone Into Action" and SUPPORT NEW TALENT. Too many times, DJs get stagnant and play what everyone else is playing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For readers with IBM and compatible computers, please be aware of "BPM", the DOS program available by anonymous ftp from the techno.stanford.edu ftp site in the pub/raves/music/bin directory. For those who DO NOT have ftp access, please email for information on obtaining the program. BPM - A tool for measuring the tempo of recorded material. Written by Calvin A. Curtindolph. Executable file, but not the source code, released into the public domain. General Information ------------------------------------------------------------------- BPM was designed to help disk jockeys and anyone else measure the tempo (speed) of recordings. BPM works fairly simply. While the record you want to time is playing, tap a key - any key except ESCape - in tune with the record. After 35 seconds (enough time to get a stabilized tempo), the program will beep and then ask you for information on the song. This info, along with the tempo, will be written to the log file, so you can build a database of songs. If you don't want to log a particular song, simply press ESCape within the information form. The record information form ------------------------------------------------------------------- Once you are finished timing a song (either by timing for 35 seconds, or by hitting ESCape), you are presented with the record information form. The form looks similar to this: Title of Song: Song length: Artist/Group: Type/genre: Year released: Hit potential: Format: >From LP/Collection: BPM: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOO NEW TO REVIEW: 1) Born To Roll--Masta Ace Inc. Wicked chord changes and a booming 808 beat. 2) Dirty Rotten Scoundrels--Jeru The Damaja Hard snare and off-key piano combined with the "freaky, freaky, freaky, freaky flow." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE YOUR BEAT RECORDS TOP 12 12"S 1. El Trago--2 In A Room 2. I Like To Move It--Reel 2 Real feat The Mad Stuntman 3. Love and Happiness--River Ocean feat India 4. Mass Appeal--Gangstarr 5. More EP--Erick Morillo 6. Bells of NY--Slo-Moshun 7. Fiesta Santeria II--Los Santeros 8. Beautiful People--Barbara Tucker 9. Limb by Limb--Cutty Ranks 10. Losing My Religion--Abigale 11. Breathe Again--Sweat T 12. Go-San-Do--The Tribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: bdavis@netcom.com Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com The Remix Warehouse: shawnm7768@aol.com Your Beat Records: dj@pegasus.rutgers.edu XLR8R Magazine: xlr8r@eskimo.com Moonshine Music: 73474.523@CompuServe.COM Vibe Magazine: VIBEmail@echonyc.com VIBEonline@aol.com Digital Graffiti Records: frmp59a@prodigy.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For any questions, comments, etc. please contact: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For readers in the NYC area, check out DJ Disciple's house show every Thursday night from 7-9 PM on 91.5 WNYE FM!!! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For back issues of the UPDATE, check the pub/raves/music/dj/dj-trax directory at the techno.stanford.edu ftp site. If you DO NOT have ftp access, please email me for back issues. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 01:37:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Goldman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Goldman Subject: RED Hmmmm Red... Lots to say about this one...there were many highs and lows.... First off, we flew up from DC and that was amazingly fun...30 ravers on flight with Mr. and Mrs. Conservative made for lots of fun, and one our rave posse got up and help hand out the meals on the plane with the flight attendants. The line in which to wait sucked...it was long and cold...but the bag check etc and ticket getting went very smoothly and hassle free. Once in side I was amazed by the setup that APPLE did (was billed as Pandemonium...but switched to APPLE for some reason) was great and the lasers were smooth as well. You couldnt see the DJ at all as there were tusks and other assorted jungle stuffs everywhere...(was there a jungle theme I missed out on?) The sound was kinda muddy as the house tent was in the same room as the main floor and the echoes were bad. The energy for Scott Henry was the best I have felt in a long while. There were about 50-60 DC/Baltimore Ravers all together dancing in the front while Scott was spinning and during this one song(and you know what song it was if you were there) everyone had their hands in the air sme were holding hands and the energy was so high, the vibe was so great, I thought I was gonna cry actually, I couldnt decide what to do with my body, I was so overwhelmed...(stone sober too!)....UNREAL.... Peace out to all the DC/Balt crew that was there.... I love ya guys... Tin Tin came on after Scott and I was bored so we checked out the house tent, and no longer than five minutes after we walked in, ONIONZ came on... I was in the house tent for the rest of the night. A sweat pit, steam bath, whatever you want to call it....it was awesome...the phattest phunkiest deepest hardest grooves sent out by the Smooth Groove Posse (Joeski, Ryde, Sameer, Onionz) Amazing. Great vibe, loved it....seemed like the DC/Balt crew was everywhere...it was slammin' Heard Lonnie and Brian (Entity and WordMoses do their live ambient and was tripped out REAL hard by the Lunar Landing sequence....loved that.... On a bad note, the DC/Balt buses had some problems. Like 30 people backed out on the bus so in order to pay the bus company, money from the ticket fund had to be used. So when the buses got to the rave, they didnt have enough cash to pay for admission for all 112 of the ravers.....after an hour or so of waiting...they bum rushed the side door and got in...The kids paid for their tickets, just it didnt get to Primary....Primary wanted to kick out all the DC kids for sneakin in (although it seems hard to me to sneak in when you have already paid for a ticket...but anyway).... The afterhours was postponed (this I am not sure on) until the DC/Balt buses took off....and now the Bus Coordinators have to come up with 500 bucks for Paul and Mark Slater or something.. I dont know the consequence... Money grubbin'? They come all the fucking way from DC and that happens? Bullshit. Primary should have taken all the money that they had and let them in... 112 people traveled up to TEN HOURS to come support this party, and the guys that organized it are getting screwed.....that party was made slammin' by the DC/Balt presence...they were everywhere dancin' their asses off the whole time....and to get fucked like that sucks.... Sorry to go off...but thats my 2 cents... All in all...great party...the organization was wacked..and the set up was sorta wacked...but the vibe was slammin' Slammin' Peace john ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Mar 1994 22:44:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Your removal from the NE-RAVES list In-Reply-To: On Sun, 27 Mar 1994, Jennifer J. Smeddy wrote: > What happened?????????????????????? > > jennbug You and the other address at your site were bouncing. Very odd, it may just have been the other address, but when it bounces to me the listserv tells me all the addresses at that site are bouncing. I will add you up again now. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:28:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NEd_Snappleboy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: NEd_Snappleboy Subject: Re: RED In-Reply-To: <9403280731.AA15399@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "John Goldman" at Mar 28, 94 1:37 am John!!!!! All I gotta say is that all of you had better be at GLOW!~~!!!!! I wanna dance with all ya'll!!!!!! Yeah man......that's the shit(soooo much energy spillin' that you wanna cry) LOVE U AND THE REST OF THE DC CLAN!!!!! Snapplebutts ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ******************************************************************************** With Snapples for All Who Enter ******************************************************************************** <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NEd!(Snappleboy!) Chuckles buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu "Smilin' like a child in the distant sunlight!" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 12:32:04 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: LEGALIZE (please read this) Well, I just got this reply from the NORML list in Texas. I know that there are many ravers out there who agree with the idea of legalization of marijuana and this is just another way to support it. This list is really small (It's a damy shame) but I think that if enough people join, it could turn into an amazing thing. If your views are the same, then I reccomend you join. I'm forwarding my request to the list, as well as the reply by the sysop. hope to see you on it soon!!!!! -Dave the snowboarder DLAPUMA1@ithaca.edu writes: > > Hi, > My name's David La Puma and I go to Ithaca College in Ithaca, NY. > I was wondering if you have a NORML discussion list or some other form > of mailing list for people to join. Please sign me up if there is, or else > send me any information on whatever you have. The NORML-L@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU list was created for use by the Texas A&M Chapter of NORML. However, they have yet to make use of the list. And since this resource is available, I'd like to see it be put to use. The list currently has four members, and NO discussion. I'll be glad to subscribe anyone (despite geographic location) to the list. But if subscribed, keep in mind that the Texas A&M Chapter of NORML may decide in the future to restrict the use of the list to local members, and you may be removed (if we get enough people to join, they wont be able to afford to remove us), although I don't think it's likely. If you do wish to subscribe, with these provisions in mind, send mail to -----> "norml@tamu.edu"<------ stating your request. (Sending to norml-l-request@tamvm1.tamu.edu will just get you this canned response, and sending to listserv@tamvm1.tamu.edu will get you the canned response you got earlier.) -daniel, list administrator -- Daniel.Craigmile@tamu.edu | iran-contra drugs guns subversion Nixon daniel@tamsun.tamu.edu | munitions cocaine DES Nazi FBI crack quiche danielc@cs.tamu.edu | cryptographic jihad terrorist Waco Koresh ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 14:11:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ROBINS52@SNYCORVA.CORTLAND.EDU Subject: Re: Acidheads about that new acid junkies double 12"... what's it called? where can i get it? thanks a ton! "There's acid in the house...." 1000 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 14:27:40 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Subject: Me In-Reply-To: NEd_Snappleboy's message of Mon, 28 Mar 1994 08:28:18 EST <9403281329.AA09946@life.ai.mit.edu> Um. Just wanted to say hello to everyone at the mailing list.. I was at RED and had a great time, I saw the NE Raves sign/blanket, but didn't go say hi, seeing as how i hadn't actually posted anything here yet. So, hello. I liked RED.. planning to go to 10 and whatever else happens that i can get to.. I live in Concord, 20 miles west of Boston, MA. I mainly listen to ambient stuff (Aphex Twin, early KLF, Orb) but the stuff they were playing downstairs at RED was GREAT!@ see you around, ian ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Mar 1994 14:33:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: Re: RED In-Reply-To: <9403280637.AA33617@moose.uvm.edu> WoW! can you say FUCT? I'm sorry to those of you who i didn't get to meet, i couldn't stop dancing and as of yet i still haven't found my mind. i think i lost it somewhere near the front entrance if anyone happened to find it and wants to return it to me. :) The drive home was harsh for all of us montreal/vermont people ...must have seen atlest 15 cars skidded off the road including a truck which caused an hour long traffic halt. AND WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO AFTERHOURS....drawing straws to see who is in the best condition to drive back s