From LISTSERV@UMDD.UMD.EDU Thu Mar 10 04:55:56 1994 Date: Thu, 10 Mar 1994 04:20:40 -0500 From: BITNET list server at UMDD To: NERaves ListAdmin Subject: File: "NE-RAVES LOG9402" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 31 Jan 1994 23:52:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: More on Nebula More on Nebula: 10 PM - ??? 2 Rooms $15 Afterparty planned :) 4 more 411: Boston Primary (617) 541-4250 New York Satelite (212) 465-3299 CT United Tekno (203) 646-6381 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 02:43:20 -0500 Reply-To: Nattie Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: nate goldbaum Subject: Replying Personally In-Reply-To: modE@convex.csd.uwm.edu "[MW-RAVES:419] re: drug time" (Feb 1, 12:49am) Since a lot of people are complaining about not being able to reply personally to posts, I did a little investigating. I have ZMail (which I absolutely adore--it's *incredibly* easy to use, with a nice GUI). I don't know about other systems, but on mine, there is a variable I can set within ZMail called the `reply_to_hdr' variable. By setting mine to "From:" (which is the header on mw-raves and ne-raves posts that shows who the original sender is) whenever I do a "Reply to Sender only" I get *only* the address from which the post originated. Finally, I have a method which works for both these mailing lists. I hope that I have helped at least the people who might have ZMail. Maybe even those who don't (perhaps there is a similar setting on your systems?). peace out -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 13:34:20 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Steve Elliott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Steve Elliott Subject: Re: asian techno scene I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the massive scene in Goa! Goa is known world-wide (or at least in Britain) as the centre of the universe for clubbers/travellers/hippies/crusties etc to congregate and rave. Full Moon parties are the order of the day on the beach and in weird jungle settings. I've heard that the grass and acid just can't be beaten, and it's a bit of a haven for dealers once they've made a bit of dosh. The party season kicks off around December and continues right through until Easter if I remember rightly. Alot of the top European DJs will be out there at some point during that time, especially over the Christmas period. Sorry that this news is a bit late for this year for vacations, but it gives you enough time to save up for next year! I know where I'm going to celebrate graduating at the end of this year. Steve ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 08:05:51 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: asian techno scene The word is that RAVES's have been going on for years in Goa! (That's in India.) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 08:08:51 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Nebula re: Synergy has been moved... Huh? First I heard.... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:40:30 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MOLARI@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Alexandre -. Molari" Subject: Re: asian techno scene Goa is mainly known by Sven Vaeth's numerous fanatics fans, because he goes several times per year to Goa. It's his 'meditation' place ;) psyched - Planet-E >>> UnDeRGrOunD!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:03:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio Subject: I want to subscribe hello, I don't know who I'm mailing, but I hope this is the right address. Raves are the best!!! "SUB DISCUSS" ------my address is cm6m@andrew.cmu.edu ------my name is Christina Marinaccio Thank you ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:06:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio Subject: calender I should've put this with the other message, sorry. "SUB CALENDER" ------address cm6m@andrew.cmu.edu ------name Christina Marinaccio ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:24:00 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mary-Kathryn Whitney Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <01FEB94.18525141.0171.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: Mary-Kathryn Whitney Subject: Know any Manhatten record stores?? Hello everyone! M-K here ... I hardly ever post (my account's at work), but a friend & former NE-Raver asked me to do him a favour. Nick Oliver's dad is travelling to Manhatten on Thursday (February 3) & Nick, being a DJ, wants to get some records. Do any of you know of any "good" record stores in Manhatten? Any info would be very much appreciated. :) Thanx alot!!!! Mary-Kathryn University of New Brunswick Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada "It is sometimes expedient to forget who we are." - Publilius Syrus ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 16:42:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: Female DJ's In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 26 Jan 94 14:11:25 +0000. <9401261416.AA11043@MIT.EDU> yes. i will do anything to get a copy of DJ Rap "Devine Rhythm" (old white label), on vinyl of course... does anyone know how i can get DJ Rap's address or an address that would start me in the right direction? pleeez... shannon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 16:44:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: Re: Know any Manhatten record stores?? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:24:00 AST > Hello everyone! M-K here ... I hardly ever post (my account's > at work), but a friend & former NE-Raver asked me to do him a > favour. Nick Oliver's dad is travelling to Manhatten on Thursday > (February 3) & Nick, being a DJ, wants to get some records. > > Do any of you know of any "good" record stores in Manhatten? > > Any info would be very much appreciated. :) > > Thanx alot!!!! Mary-Kathryn > University of New Brunswick > Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada > > "It is sometimes expedient to forget who we are." - Publilius Syrus > Why, there are two very comprehensive record stores in NYC? DOWNTOWN RECORDS on 25th Street between 6th and 8th and VINYLMANIA RECORDS at 60 Carmine Street (Ask for Jerel Black toq ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:05:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Oz Lubling Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Oz Lubling Subject: Re: Know any Manhatten record stores?? In-Reply-To: <199402012147.QAA04292@umd5.umd.edu> from "Mary-Kathryn Whitney" at Feb 1, 94 05:24:00 pm yes, by all means got to the liquid sky store on laffayette street, about 3 blocks below soho. it has a lot of records. the store is in the back. there's also vinymania on carmine street in the west village. very near bleacker street. also on east 4th or 5th and bowary, is eight ball records. basically all these are within walking distance from each other downtown. have fun, oz ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:11:21 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: Know any Manhatten record stores?? In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:24:00 AST someone already mentioned VinylMania... also look for: Dance Tracks (3rd or 2nd St. & First Ave) Rebel Rebel (not a 12" shop per se but they carry quite a bit) BPM (both this & Rebel are on the west side of Bleeker) DiscoRama (Downstairs, on 4th St.? near 7th Ave & Christopher) I've never been to these and I'm not sure what they sell. Deca-Dance, The 8-Ball Shop (same as the label?), Subtopia, Zapp Most of these sell house music for the most part. If you're looking for hard trance, acid or hardcore check out Groove Records in Brooklyn on Ave U. hope this helps ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 06:45:14 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Anyone ever heard of... Any of the CyberTribe out there heard of DJ MurderHouse? He did some stuff a few years back that ruled. Anyone? Apocalypse ************************************************************************** * Joseph M. Harre * "God is like a big * HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU * * Canisius College * shiny man" * ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM * * Buffalo, NY * Rel. Studies Professor * (this space for rent)* ************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 17:46:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jason Frantz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Frantz Subject: D.C. Scene What's up? I'm wanted to know if anything good was coming up in the near future around D.C./Baltimore. Also I wanted to meet some of the faces behind the messages that are in and around the D.C./Balt. scene. Finally, I wanted to know if anyone knows where I could go to in order to buy some used but not to worn down turntables. Me and a friend were looking into possibly getting into DJing but we don't know the first place to start! Anyways any help would be greatly appreciated. C-YA. -=J-sun=- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 18:26:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "DARSHAN M. JESRANI" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "DARSHAN M. JESRANI" Subject: Manhattan Record Stores Try.. VinylMania - Carmine St. BPM - Bleecker St. Decadance - Christopher St. Disc O Rama - West 4th St. Liquid Sky (?) - 241 Lafayette St. SubTopia - Shit I forgot the address.. I apologize for being so vague - I usually just walk around in the general area of those places and end up there.. Also try 8-Ball - I forgot the damn address to that one too. Sorry.. Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 19:46:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Speakman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Speakman Subject: Manhattan record shops Downtown's addr. is 164 W 25th St 8 ball is on E 9th St between 3rd and 4th Avenues, just up from Astor Place/ St Mark's Pl. John. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 20:14:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/1/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Not much happening this weekend. Read a book. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@soda.berkeley.edu and any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so they can both share it with their respective list domains (Technopolis and DCRaves). VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 02/11/94 - TIME WARP II @ - Allentown, PA - (215) 433 - 0503 02/12/94 - SYNERGY (rescheduled) - New York City, NY - (212) 631 - 3614 02/19/94 - RETURN TO NEBULA - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 431 - 6718 03/12/94 - ULTRAVIOLET - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (???) ??? - ???? 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (???) ??? - ???? 04/23/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 11 ALLENTOWN, PA (215) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II @ $12 DJs: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London-Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-Raves) *geoffE(NE-Raves/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA-NYC) *Remic(Vagabond-Philly) Mark M(Stonewall/6 turntable display!!!) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill Out *Will be doing a 2-hour-set* 10p.m. - 6 a.m. Directions: Take the Pa. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument. At the monument hang a left and go through three lights. 10 feet before the fourth light you will see a God Is Love sign in lights. Hang the next left and it's in the warehouses. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 NEW YORK CITY, NY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY (rescheduled) S Y N E R G Y - Combined Force United Action Saturday, January 22, 1994 New York Harbor - INTREPID AIRCRAFT CARRIER Your Navigators: Frankie Bones Adam X Osheen James Christian Scott Henry Jason Jinx Rio Dave Trance The USS Intrepid, once a warship that delivered destructive forces, now serves as a vehicle of transformation for the voyagers for the third millennium. Our mission to bring about peace and equality will dismantle the machines of violence and recycle the technology for the benefit of the planet and all living here. Love and Unity in '94. Trance Now! Boarding Begins at 10:00 p.m. ambient dj's Jared (Instinct) L.G. Space Ace Dietrich (P909) Psychocyberradiant Lighting By: SCOTTO 10 Watt Lazer Computerized Visuals by: MELON DEZIGNS Boarding fee $17 advance $20 at door Transportation &Info Lines Alan Sanctuary (Primal Posse) - NYC 212.696.8938 Fred Strong - NYC 212.631.1065 Lesslie - Boston 617.739.5160 Mental Unity Tribe - SI 718.390.7498 T.H.C. Prod. - Philly 215.923.4339 Balu - Prov. 401.454.6028 United Tekno - Conn. 203.646.6381 Eric - DC 202.466.1692 Deanna - DC 202.452.7639 Phunky Alien - Cleveland 216.238.1451 Drop Bass - Chicago 414.777.3998 DNA - Montreal 514.854.6446 Atomic - Conn. 203.454.6643 Mars - NJ 908.724.9711 Tickets Purchased Starting January 3rd 1994 Vinylmania - NYC 212.924.3309 Groove - Brooklyn 718.714.5232 Planet X - NJ 908.249.0304 611 Records - Philly 215.413.9100 Boston Beat - Boston 1108 Boylston St. Luna Sea - Prov. 401.272.5862 Music Now - DC 202.638.3272 Modern Music - Balt. 410.523.1882 Disco-O-Rama - NYC 212.206.8414 Liquid Sky - NYC 241 Lafayette St. Inside the Hanger Deck Intrepid Aircraft Carrier S.Q. West 46th St. & 12th Ave. New York, New York MAIN INFO NUMBER: 212.631.3614 [NOTE: Since this was rescheduled from a previous date, I don't know how much of the DJ lineup is the same. Corrections are welcome. -i.] [FURTHER NOTE: There has been much talk of this event being moved and maybe cancelled. Be sure to investigate it.] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 19 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 431 - 6718 RETURN TO NEBULA Up North Productions in association with Fusion presents RETURN TO NEBULA *celebrating two years of the upstate scene* February 19, 1994 DJ'S: Tiga (Montreal) Luc Raymond (Montreal) Mr Kleen (Fusion) Jason Jinx (NASA) 333 (England (New)) Tim Ryan (Boston) Dave Trance (LI/Caffeine) Guy DMC (DMC NY/UK) Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Scott Richmond (Fusion) Heather Heart (U.O.S.) Troposphere (NYC) Sprout (Fusion/Polaris) Ryde (New Jersey) Lights: ACME Two Separate Dance Floors $15 at door 10 pm until..... Location: the original Nebula space Poughkeepsie, NY Albany- Big Dipper (518) 465-6381 LI- Dave C (516) 891-2233 NYC- Satellite (212) 465-3299 Up North- (914) 256-0445 ACME- (914) 463-9350 Conn- United Techno (203) 646-6381 Montreal- DNA (514) 854-6446 Boston- Primary (617) 541-4258 Portland- KC (207) 773-6979 Philly- 611 (215) 413-9100 from points N + S take I-87 to exit 18 at light make right onto rt299 follow to end. Make right onto rt9W follow approx 1 mile to mid hudson bridge cross bridge go straight on church st to 9th light turn right onto grand ave go thru 2 lights-JCC on left. From points E + W take I-84 to exit 13 to rt9 North about 11 miles to Poughkeepsie exit left onto church st follow directions above tickets available at subtopia records (212) 431-6718 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com ULTRAVIOLET Baltimore 03.12.1994 Ultraviolet Special Envoys 3 3 3 & M Gee of Primary Productions meeting together with Entity and Sun to align the planetary forces. additional pathways provided by: Who Scott Henry Debo Osheen Greg Seargent Advance Flight Ticket: $12 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (???) ??? - ???? RED _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (???) ??? - ???? PLEASURE DOME _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "Just that gangsta glare..." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 15:02:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chadley Kaye Dawson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chadley Kaye Dawson Subject: Re: SmartMan In-Reply-To: <199401290019.TAA11449@umd5.umd.edu> Chances are if the drinks are out there, they are not labeled as "smart drinks". The closest I've seen are some of the drinks you find in a health food store. Sometimes they have imported drinks from asia ect, that have ginsing and stuff. If you are in Pittsburgh, try the East End Food co-op, or maybe even the Japanese grocery in Shadyside. -chad ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 21:16:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Oz Music & Body Wear Hey Gang, Weather here has dipped to below the 20 degrees Celcius today and the skies are slightly overcast - brrrrr ( larf larf :). Been catching some wikkid clubs / parties / raves lately and there's some wild Euro music being played, especially from Germany and such. One uses the Speed Racer theme, has a big old car crash in it and then has samples of Speed & Trixie moaning madly up to a big ol' climax, at which point the words "Here he comes, here comes speed racer" are sampled and the theme cuts in - really wikkid :) Lots of other stuff that's been here for months and is really wild. Not all of it hardcore, some is "anthem'y" but it gets everyone going. Apparently Enigma have another disc out in Europe so we should be getting it here around February. I'm looking forward to *that* one. Clothing is definitely fun to look at with jeans, singlets and vests the go for summer, especially amongst the biker set. The ladies are wearing "platform" heels - not true platforms but modifications of them - sort of a high-heeled fusion - some look quite wild. Black ( and dark ) are the colors for all sexes ( I've lost count of the number of sexes since I got here :) and many dresses ( for the ladies :) have long slits up one ( or more ) sides from bottom to top - quite a bit of thigh shown while walking and, when mixed with a shapely figure, quite fun to observer :) In the rave gear department there's everything from "exposure wear" ( not a lot of flesh covered or covered in ways to look normal but reveal heaps :) through latex out to baggies. Most of the "true" ravers would look like US club kids or College Ravers but with a slightly European look. The fusion of US and Euro looks ( with that definite Ozzie difference :) is quite fascinating. The rave scene itself in Sydney is just going through the "We want to Rave but the Raves Suck!" phase where the promotors are generally money hungry bastards and the vibe is hard to find. Occasionally a good one "goes off" but this is often assisted by the right chemicals & friends. The move is on towards the "underground, limited invite" scene or the other end, "fully legal, licensed venues with permits and no cops thank you" kind of scene. All up, Sydney is great and I'm having a ball catching up with old friends, meeting new ones and partying harder than ever before on weekends ( you thort I was bad in Boston - hooo boy - I've met a few ladies who are as hardcore as I am - if not harder - the chemicals & good times flow :). I'm hopefully going to be here for Mardis Gras in March and then back to the States late March. Hope hope hope. Mardis Gras is *huge* here - a massive dance party run by the Gay & Lesbian scene where you have to know some-one in the scene to get tickets - thousands show up, straits are "tolerated" and the night "goes off". Look for a review in a month or so :) Take care, survive the parties and keep on slammin' :) Grant P.S. Any replies direct to me as I'm off NE-Raves until I return ( can't handle the weekly message load :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:05:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: Know any Manhatten record stores?? In-Reply-To: <199402012136.QAA11912@acsu.buffalo.edu> There is a good record store in the village. The name is VINYLMANIA, I don't know the address or phone#, sorry. SUESS:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:11:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristine Carrol Noel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: vrave please Can anyone give me a quick Vrave 101? I've been gone a while and can't remember how to get on... Thankyou very much. Peace The Kat in the Hat kcn@wpi.wpi.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:22:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio Subject: Re: Know any Manhatten record stores?? In-Reply-To: <199402020415.XAA13096@umd5.umd.edu> Thanks for the info. I'll check it out when I go back home. Christina ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 23:50:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristine Carrol Noel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristine Carrol Noel Subject: thanx! Thanks for the Vrave info! I'm all set. Kat In The Hat ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 02:14:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jerry marvin haws Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: MOMENTUM rescheduled INFORMATIZATION Hi there, humans... MOMENTUM = Feb 26, Lexington, Ky w/ Mike Huckaby, Terry Mullan, Dieselboy, Dave Hollands, & Cosmic + Jimi Doom, Full Brain, & ~... Well, we unburied lexington promptly the sunday after momentum would have occurred. Having had to import salt from Cincinnati, possibly only after the interstate leading there was cleared, we are now graced with enough potholes to make the roads in Nova Scotia envious. You all be sure to come see them for the rescheduled date of FEBRUARY 26th. Richie can't make that date, so he has been replaced by Mike Huckaby, another elder god of the detroit region. Terry, Dieselboy, Dave, & Cosmic are all still spinning. Richie will spin in Lexington at Escape Velocity on April 9th in the fine company of King Britt, Josh Wink, and Tony Garcia. Call it delayed gratification... Meanwhile, there was an overwhelming response from us netravers as to coming out for the party. It is still free, and if you've sent me your name, you are on the guestlist. If you have not, just go ahead. NETRAVERS FREE. We will set up crash space, and the like. This is an open invitation to come together and rave, $$$ irrelevant, and meet each other in a manner besides electronically. Thanks to everyone who came out for the consolation prize house party. If Momentum has half that vibe, we're in for a hell of a time. NOTICE: the site has been changed due to scheduling conflicts! Call the infoline at 606.281.4193 or watch the net for directions. Sorry for the confusion, but the old space is unavailable for that date, whereas everything else is. ciao, & other cheesy foreign laters, jsquared ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 13:17:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Letters.. Okay some people had complained about the acknowledgement mail that got sent out after you put a message up to the list. I have modified the list so that you will no longer receive acknowledgement for sent letters. And just so you understand: THERE WILL BE NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM LISTSERV FOR LETTERS YOU SEND TO NE-RAVES! Okay. Just wanted to make sure everyone understood. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 13:13:04 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Ibiza - Balearic vibes In-Reply-To: <199401281227.HAA11282@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 28 Jan 1994, Steve Elliott wrote: > Just wondered if any of you lot over in the States have any idea about the > Balearic vibe that started in Ibiza during the mid-late 80's. > > To me this was the biggest influence in the transformation of club culture and > the start of the 'rave' ethos in Britain. Ever heard of places like Schoom, > Spectrum and Trip? To me they are as legendary as The Paradise Garage. > > Danny Rampling is god! > > Steve > Read alot about it in I.D mag in the beginning of 1992. I was homeless and rave sounded like what I wanted to see. The only raves I knew of on the east coast was storm in brooklyn done by Frankie Bones and the rest of the groove records crew (AdamX,Jimmy Crash) and from the lookes of it when I stopped by the store on an event night. There wasn't much concern for safety with a lot of dust smokers looming around the shuttle bus. I didn't think it was much on the baleric vibe that I had read about. I was lucky to get it in on what developed later. There has developed a very positive vibe despite all the usual obstacles, plus the exta ones here in the United States of a mainstream culture that has no reference to dance culture--> excepting disco which is considered to have been a passing fad, and of lesser amount of mobility that youth generally have. Also the European media hardly touches American's while ours generally floods the European's. I was lucky to have a reunion with a very hip friend of mine late in the summer of '92--> she worked smart bar at some quality events and rave clubs.. My first rave experience was rolling in with my cart to NASA before the club opened and cutting up fruit for smart drinks and decorating the walls for MoBy's birthday party--> I had been jumping from scene to scene wherever I could buy and sell drugs and then I knew what I knew about raves the first time I heard about the summer of love in Ibeza---. Raves are my home. Wherever More than two people get together for enjoyment in a manner which enhances the majority of the participants in a positive manner --- that is the closest thing to home this tired nomad has ever experienced and I will do anything with my life to promote and produce this culture in the best possible manner... I don't have to sell my soul on this one... It was in me all along. would it be safe to say: "One doesn't have to sell ones soul on this one, It was in US all along" I HOPE SO !!!! Now again I am a homeless nomad... and all I want to do is Rave... I renounce all my ties to other institutions and will act to the best of my abilities only to further this spirit of enjoyment and salvation... All comprimises and associations outside of the community will only be in the long-term interest of the community. Forever yours, Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 13:09:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: vrave please In-Reply-To: <199402020420.XAA12070@acsu.buffalo.edu> telnet to:techno.stanford.edu 7283 SUESS:) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 14:17:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: why is it In-Reply-To: <199401310445.XAA02865@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 30 Jan 1994, Sea of Sin wrote: > why is it that when you reoly to something on neraves you get a > confirmation on it being sent out. > > like this: > Output of your job "NE-RAVES" > > bleah.. like i don't get enough mail already.. > sorry dan.. > please fix it though. > > c > > -- > ________________________________s_e_a_o_f_s_i_n_______________________________ _ > kawakami@noc.usfca.edu seaofsin@well.sf.ca.us > Don't fix it --- I have mail problems on my system and with my mail reader-- Don't fix what works already ---- It helps to know my message was sent to ne raves successfully rather than to an individual PAPA your faithful boy Dan is the man :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 12:58:28 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Ibiza - Balearic vibes Paul, sounds like you're ready for Goa! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 17:50:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , a176@LEHIGH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Marshal Villarosa Subject: zoom stuff... (fwd) Forwarded message: From smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Thu Mar 10 04:56:11 1994 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 17:29:06 -0500 (EST) From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" To: a176@lehigh.edu Subject: zoom stuff... (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 1 Feb 1994 14:45:15 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer J. Smeddy To: dcraves Subject: zoom stuff... hi everyone! well the next issue of zoom is due out in the end of march so i just thought that i would bring up a couple of things that some of you all might be interested in.... ad space: ______________ well we are selling ad space very very resonable prices. the deadline is febuary 25th. if you are a record store, a promoter,,ave a clothing line, run bus trips, visuals, or graphgicsthis may be exactly what you need. photographs: ________________ we are desperate need of photographs. shelly (aka xiola) is our resident photographer but we are still a little short handed of pictures so if you have anything that you would like to submit just write me at: 306a university place po box 736 kutztown pa 19530 and e-mail me to tell me that it is on the way. (deadline is also the 25th of feb) scene reports: _________________ if you live in an area that you feel needs so coverage for one reason or another please write a paragraph by feb 25th and send it to... smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu well i guess that is it for now... i hope to see everyone real soon... Peace, Jennifer Smeddy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 20:02:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Milliways Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Milliways Subject: Subscribe Hello, I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Email to uriah@eden.rutgers.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 22:34:09 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: AOL RAVERS LOOK HERE!! Hey all, ( Sorry for posting this on an internet-based service, but a lot of AOL-ers read the list..) There will finally be a rave room on Sat. Feb 5 after Midnight on AOL!!!!! Look in "Member Rooms" for 'Electronic Liquid' and come join everybody for hours of peace.love.unity.respect.fun and lots more. Hope everyone can join!!! Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 23:19:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: An analysis of "Hearts", a tablet sold as "Ecstasy". (fwd) Hey Folks, These little white tablets with hearts on them were going around just before New Years ( and are still around :). They've received mixed reviews but are generally held to be "great" so long as you're not expecting them to change yer mood - I found mine at New Years was a bit "rushy / smacky" and required a few hits of speed to get me to a point where I was back in control of the run ( I like to know & remember what I do while "out of it" :). While it wasn't the best run I've had, I will be doing these again, but hey, that's just me :) Anyhow, One of the chemists over here has analyzed them and here's his results. Enjoy if you want - has anyone over there seen these little buggers? Grant Forwarded message: > ______________________________________________________________ > An Analysis of "Hearts", a Tablet Illicitly Sold as "Ecstasy". > ______________________________________________________________ > > Introduction: > > In recent months, observers have noticed an increase in the availablility > of tablets sold illicitly as "ecstasy", supposedly methylenedioxy > methamphetamine (MDMA), in Sydney. One form which has often been reported > is known as "Hearts", and appears as a white tablet about 0.5cm in > diameter, with a heart shaped emblem imprinted. A large number of these > tablets were made available close to New Years Eve. Some experienced > users claimed that the effect of the tablets was "smacky", i.e. > they thought that it contained heroin in addition to MDMA. > > Up until a few months ago, in the Netherlands, the MDMA analogue > N-ethyl methylenedioxyamphetamine (MDE, MDEA, Eve) was legal and > freely available. With the banning of this substance, it would seem > reasonable that the newly illicit stockpiles should have been distributed > around the world. In recent years, quality MDMA has been rare in > Sydney, and sales of adulterated or forged samples have correspondingly > been rife. However, there have been persistant rumours of recent > "ecstasy" supplies having their origin in the Netherlands, and indeed > this has been used as a marketing point; people tending to believe > that if it is imported, it is more likely to contain MDMA. All this > suggests a possible link between recent "ecstasy" in supplies Sydney > and Dutch MDE, so it is of great interest to analyse a sample of the drug. > > Experimental: > > 0.0398g of powdered "heart" tablet was suspended in 20ml H2O. The > supernatant was placed in a separating funnel with 20ml CH2Cl2, and > the residue re-extracted with ca.10ml H2O. To the combined extracts > in the funnel were added 2ml 25% NH3. After shaking, the CH2Cl2 > layer was separated, and a further three CH2Cl2 extracts of > approximately equal volume were taken. These four extracts were > combined, and evaporated under vacuum to yield 0.0121g of basic > extract as a pale yellow oil. TLC on silica using butanol/acetic acid/ > water (4:1:1) gave a single ninhydrin positive spot (violet, rf 0.55), > indicating the probable presence of only one major component. > The H1 NMR spectrum of the sample was taken, and found to > correspond identically with an authentic sample of pure MDE > having been worked up in the same manner. There was no evidence > to suggest the presence of MDMA, or other amphetamines. > > Conclusion: > > The tablets known as "hearts" and sold as "ecstasy" have been found > to contain at least 36% N-ethyl methylenedioxy amphetamine (MDE) > (calculated as the hydrochloride salt). No other active substances > were found. It is quite possible that the sample had its origin in > the Netherlands. > > ___________________________________________________________________ > > Subjective differences between MDE and MDMA: > > While the effects of these two substances are sufficiently similar > to make differentiation difficult, there are some significant subjective > differences. MDE is somewhat less potent than MDMA, a typical dose > being in the range 100-160mg (as opposed to 80-140mg). At large > doses, MDE may resemble MDA (methylenedioxy amphetamine), although its > psychedelic effects are less; it is a "stoning" intoxicant, and in > particular can make walking or dancing difficult. Large doses of MDMA > can have a similar effect, although it seems that somewhat more can be > used without incurring the almost drunken intoxication. In smaller > amounts, MDE greatly resembles MDMA, although the physical and > tactile effects are generally perceived as being prevalent. > The emotional opening and empathic effects for which MDMA is > famous, although present, do not seem to be as pronounced. > As a substance of abuse at raves, MDE has the possible advantage > over MDMA that the user is less likely to embarass him/herself > in public through inappropriate empathy. On the other hand, > MDE is more likely to temporarily incapacitate the user at normal > doses. > > Jeremy > > -- > "Enjoy moderation in moderation" > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 2 Feb 1994 23:22:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: NRG, Yet another "New Thing" Here In Oz Hey folks, Anyone over there happened by any NRG? It's apparently a mix of Special K and Speed that's going around Melbourne. I'm getting some sent up to me for examination ( ala the White Hearts review ) and a trial use with a friend. Watch for a review soon( ish :)... Grant P.S. There is 2CB over here but I dunno how good it is. Will let you know if / when I get some. Ahhhh, those rolling drugs of "home", where Acid is only US$5 and the 2CB flows like dandruff - oh how I miss the states :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 02:05:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Buckley L Kohlhauff Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Buckley L Kohlhauff Subject: MAKE MONEY FAST Dear Friend, My name is Dave Rhodes. In September 1988 my car was reposessed and the bill collectors were hounding me like you wouldn't believe. I was laid off and my unemployment checks had run out. The only escape I had from the pressure of failure was my computer and my modem. I longed to turn my advocation into my vocation. This January 1989 my family and I went on a ten day cruise to the tropics. I bought a Lincoln Town Car for CASH in Feburary 1989. I am currently building a home on the West Coast of Florida, with a private pool, boat slip, and a beautiful view of the bay from my breakfast room table and patio. I will never have to work again. Today I am rich! I have earned over $400,000.00 (Four Hundred Thousand Dollars) to date and will become a millionaire within 4 or 5 months. Anyone can do the same. This money making program works perfectly every time, 100% of the time. I have NEVER failed to earn $50,000.00 or more whenever I wanted. Best of all you never have to leave home except to go to your mailbox or post office. In October 1988, I received a lefter in the mail telling me how I could earn $50,000 dollars or more whenever I wanted. I was naturally very skeptical and threw the letter on the desk next to my computer. It's funny though, when you are desperate, backed into a corner, your mind does crazy things. I spent a frustating day looking through the want ads for a job with a future. The pickings were sparse at best. That night I tried to unwind by booting up my computer and calling several bulletin boards. I read several of the message posts and than glanced at the lefter next to the computer. Allat once it came to me, I now had the key to my dreams. I realized that with the power of the computer I could expand and enhance this money making formula into the most unbelievable cash flow generator that has ever been created. I substituted the computer bulletin boards in place of the post office and electronically did by computer what others were doing 100% by mail. Now only a few lefters are mailed manually. Most of the hard work is speedily downloaded to other bulletin boards throughout the world. If you believe that someday you deserve that lucky break that you have waited for all your life, simply follow the easy instructions below. Your dreams will come true. Sincerely yours, Dave Rhodes INSTRUCTIONS Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours. This program has remained successful because of the honesty and integrity of the participants. Please continue its success by carefully adhering to the instructions. Welcome to the world of Mail Order! This little business is a little different than most mail order houses. Your product is not solid and tangible, but rather a service. You are in the business of developing Mailing lists. Many large corporations are happy to pay big bucks for quality lists.(The money made from the mailing lists are secondary to the income which is made from people like yourself requesting that they be included in that list.) 1) Immediately mail $1.00 to the first 5 (five) names listed below starting at number 1 through number 5. Send cash only please (totalinvestment $5.00). Enclose a note with each letter stating: "Please add my name to your mailing list." (This is a legitimate service that you are requesting and you are paying $1.00 for this service). 2) Remove the name that appears number 1 on the list. Move the other 9 names up one position. (Number 2 will become number 1 and number 3 will become number 2, etc.) Place your name, address and zip code in the number 10 position. 3) Post the new letter with your name in the number 10 position into 10 (Ten) separate bulletin boards in the message base or to the file section, call the file, MAKE.MONEY.FAST. 4) Within 60 days you will receive over $50,000.00 in CASH. Keep a copy of this file for yourself so that you can use it again and again whenever you need money. As soon as you mail out these letters you are automatically in the mail order business and people are sending you $1.00 to be placed on your mailing list. This list can than be rented to a list broker that can be found in the Yellow Pages for additional income on a regular basis. The list will become more valuable as it grows in size. This is a service. This is perfectly legal. If you have any doubts, refer to Title 18, Sec.1302 & 1341 of the postal lottery laws. NOTE: Make sure you retain EVERY Name and Address sent to you, either on computer or hard copy, but do not discard the names and notes they send you. This is PROOF that you are truely providing a service and should the IRS or some other Government Agency question you, you can provide them with this proof! Remember as each post is downloaded and the instructions carefully followed, five members will be reimbursed for their participation as a List Developer with one dollar each. Your name will move up the list geometrically so that when your name reaches the number five position you will be receiving thousands of dollars in cash. 1. Drew Hepenstal P.O. Box 4910 5115 Margaret Morrison Pittsburgh, PA 15213 2. Buckley Kohlhauff 146 Twilight Pl. The Woodlands, TX 77381 3. Brandon Damesheck 2225 Concord Dr. Harrisburg, PA 17110 4. Anthony M. Mazzola III C.P.U. 171 300 Grace Watson Circle Rochester, New York 14623 5. Bobby Dee 89 Prospect Ave. Kentville, N.S B4N 2M1 Canada 6 . Steven J. Cambria 203 Oakvale Blvd Kenmore, NY 14223 7. Fredick Dihlman Box 388 St. Bonaventure Univ. 8. Dennis Le 8142 19th Street Westminster, CA 92683 9. Toni Mason 2405A Landmark Raleigh, NC 27607 10. Bob Kromwell Box 1622 5500 Wabash Avenue Terre Haute, IN 47803 The following letters were written by participating members in this program. To Whom It May Concern: About six months ago I received the enclosed post in letter form. I ignored it. I received about five more of the same letter within the next two weeks. I ignored them also. Of course, I was tempted to follow through and dreamed of making thousands, but I was convinced it was just another gimmick and could not possibly work. I was wrong! About three weeks later I saw this same letter posted on a local bulletin board in Montreal. I liked the idea of giving it a try with my computer. I didn't expect much because I figured, if other people were as skeptical as I, they wouldn't be too quick to part with Five Dollars. But, I buy lottery tickets weekly in my province and have nothing to show for it but ticket stubs. This week I decided to look at this as my weekly lottery purchase. I addressed the envelopes and mailed out one dollar in each as directed. Two weeks went by and I didn't recieve anything in the mail. The fourth week rolled around and I couldn't believe what happened! I can't say I received $50,000, but it was definitely well over $35,000! For the first time in ten years, I got out of debt. It was great. Of course, it didn't take me long to go through my earnings so I am using this excellent money opportunity once again. Follow the instructions and get ready to enjoy. Please send a copy of this letter along with the enclosed letter so together we can convince people who are skeptical that it really works! Good Luck, Charles Kust St Agathe Que. Another lefter: I tried a similar program in which the cost was $5.00 per response. In that one the return was about 3%. Since I did not have a modem I sent out letters regular mail. I created a few mailing labels and printed out all of the labels on pressure sensitive tape. The first mailing that I used the $1.00 dollar per reponse approach I started to get return mail in just over one week! I sent out 200 letters instead of 100 that is required if you use the mail instead of the bulletin boards. Additionally, I included as many friends, relatives, classmates, that I could think of in order to encourage their participation if they happened to recognize my name, so my percentage of gain was higher. I am trying again with 500 lefters to see if I surpass the $141,000 of the last time. You just won't believe it until you try. Best Wishes, Mark Garner Dallas Texas Additional Notes: This system works equally well if mailed out manually. Mind you it takes more effort to hand address the envelopes and the cost goes up proportionately to cover the postage and envelopes. You must also photo copy the instructions, cross out the name in number one position, write in your name in the number ten slot and change the rest of the numbers accordingly. (it might be neater to use white out or paste over the names.) In order to achieve the same results you must send out the $1.00 dollar to the first five names and then send out another 100 letters with copies of the program enclosed. It has been suggested not to put a return address on the outside of the envelope in order to encourage the recipient to open it. The return will approximate that then received from the posts listed on the bulletin boards. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 02:29:43 -0500 Reply-To: danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Hey folks. I am thinking about making a trip down to North Carolina on the weekend of the 12th to attend Heartbeat in Greensboro (Saturday). Is anyone interested in going down South to rave? Think of it as an adventure, far away from home. Dancing with strangers. People you will never see again. Maybe. A sudden light bursts on your face and the strobe goes crazy. Yes, you have caught the Dixie Bullet and you just can't keep your feet from moving. Err, umm... Something like that. So, if you are interested mail me back and we can start arranging things. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 02:48:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Making Money SLOWLY! Sorry for that last message. I can't beleive that some idiot actually posted that Make Money Fast message to ne-raves. I have already mailed his postmaster and urged them to remove the offender from the net. Again, sorry you had to see that message. Dan Ps. I checked, he isn't even on NE Raves. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 10:09:29 -0800 Reply-To: Mike Perkowitz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mike Perkowitz Subject: t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n yes, tintinnabulation (that's me) tapes are now available. it's sixty minutes of trancey music i've composed over the past two years. trance, gentle acid, some spoken-word based, dark, happy, minimal, hypno, analog, digital tintinnabulation. eleven songs. samples from anais nin, susan faludi, cabaret voltaire, intermix, the princess bride, philip glass, the war of the worlds, and vrave's own zzar ;) recorded without dolby onto maxell XLII60s (the original is decent but not outstanding sound quality). if you want one: i would love it if i could tape and distribute these at no money or time expense, but i can't. :( so for each tape, i'd like three or four dollars for the blank and postage (i am supplying the blanks) *or* if you are a musician or dj (or have interesting mix tapes), i'd love to trade. if several people would prefer to order one tape and copy it among themselves, that would be *great*. saves me some work. (just make sure to distribute the cover with it) - so first send me email and tell me you'd like one (tell me if you want to pay or trade.. if the latter we'll tawk, no big whoop) - then send me whatever it is you are supposed to send me - wait (i'll let you know when i receive stuff and/or when i send out the tape) - run to your mailbox daily - listen, enjoy (hopefully), and send me comments - distribute it to everyone you know (as long as you distribute a copy of the cover with it) i very much look forward to comments from people as well as interesting trades from other musicians and djs. :) mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ t i n t i n n a b u l a t i o n ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:06:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST >INSTRUCTIONS > > Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will >have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours. This guy can't seriously think we're that stupid, can he? ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:06:37 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:06:48 -0500 > >INSTRUCTIONS > > > > Follow these instructions EXACTLY, and in 20 to 60 days you will > >have received well over $50,000.00 cash, all yours. > > This guy can't seriously think we're that stupid, can he? > ___ > (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) > |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| > |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| > |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) > |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| > |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| > |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| > (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) > I think Tai needs a visit from Rocco and Bruno. I hate junk E-mail. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:33:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , William Lewis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: William Lewis I would like to subscribe to this mailing list. My e-mail address is: wslewis@southern.edu thanks! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:42:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST In-Reply-To: <199402031935.OAA09377@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 3 Feb 1994, John C Avery II wrote: > I think Tai needs a visit from Rocco and Bruno. I hate junk E-mail. > then don't create it. tai wasn't the one who posted the chain letter. chris ----------------CATS MEOW---------------- | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:53:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:42:02 -0500 > On Thu, 3 Feb 1994, John C Avery II wrote: > > > I think Tai needs a visit from Rocco and Bruno. I hate junk E-mail. > > > > then don't create it. tai wasn't the one who posted the chain letter. > > chris > > ----------------CATS MEOW---------------- > | It rolls! It spins! | > | Magic Ball | > | It vibrates! It jumps! | > | | > -----------finger for pgp key------------ > I know, I'm sorry. I apologize to Tai for jumping down his throat. Here is some record info that all of you may be interested in. UPDATE FROM DJ TRAX TECHNOLOGICAL PROMOTION--WOOD-RIDGE, NJ, USA 1/31/94 Here are some records that are currently rockin' NYC dance floors (or will be soon). ORE RECORDS (UK): Nothing Better--Colourblind The "Hand and Spear" club mix starts off with the female chant of "Nothing Better" and slowly layers groove upon groove until a unified tribal track is built. Then BOOM!, the keyboards kick in full force combining with a fierce bassline to keep it up for 5:38. Contact: Moneypenny 212-343-2660 FAX: 212-343-2753 SNEAK TIP RECORDS: The Circus House--Network 109 (STR-022) Produced by Peter "At Work" Presta, "The Circus House" borrows bits and pieces from the sample house archives and relives just a little of that Todd Terry feeling from 1988. Check out the "Presta Mix" and let me know what samples YOU find. Contact: Jerry 718-459-0334 FAX: 718-459-0724 CONTINUUM RECORDS: Burning Like The Sun--Red Red Groovy (13303-0) Mixed by the X-Mix clan, I believe from Boston, MA, this record works the current trend of tribal revelry and does it well. Pieces of the alternative- like male vocals slither in and out of the mix. Contact: Chris B 908-709-0011 FAX: 908-709-0641 FREEZE RECORDS: The Todd Terry Unreleased Project Part 5 Mr. Todd Terry delivers with another sample track EP. For DJs anywhere and everywhere. Contact: Richie Rich 212-243-1189 FAX: 212-243-1089 NERVOUS RECORDS: Tales From the RZ--Beltram Presents Joey Beltram serves up a tasty house styled record with a remix of Xavier Gold's "You Used To Hold Me" flying around an 130 BPM acidic typhoon. Warriors Dance--Deep Creed Mega-Tribal with house flavored keyboards. This one will have no problem making EVERYONE move. Contact: Nick 212-730-7160 FAX: 212-730-7130 STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: Gobah--The Untouchables Kenny "Dope" Gonzalez gives us a tribal track that delivers with a sample of "Jingo" (Where'd he get the sample???? Could it be "Drums of Passion"-1960???) Indonesia--Circle Children Tribal with an Indonesian(???) vocal sample. This record is the DJ's version of Deep Forest's "Sweet Lullaby" The Erick Morillo EP Wow!! This man has been responsible for Strictly Rhythm's resurgence in the 12" market. A list of hits goes on and on, The New Anthem, Go On Move, I Like To Move It, UNBE, House of Love........ There's a track on here that sounds a lot like Muevelo but with a Kenny Dope type beat. Hmm!!!??? (Shake Watcha) Mama Gave Y'All--Stik-E and The Hoods Produced by the ever popular hip-hop sample guru, Frankie Cutlass, this one works the chant style like Funkmaster Flex's "C'mon Baby" but uses the "Shake......" chant from Miami's "Poison Clan". The sampled beat from Slick Rick's "Mona Lisa" and horns from K7's "Come Baby Come" help to make this a timeless classic. Contact: Bari 212-246-0026 FAX: 212-246-2191 Please send any questions, comments, advice, etc. to: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:55:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Haydn in the pot :) Well...ya'll will remember all about the terrible articles appearing in the Baltimore Sun Paper.....well, to make anyone feel better abuot this...as in a "well, he got his anyway" type thing.... Roger Haydn is up on sexual harrasment charges [among other things] but his long term secretary :) [inside scoop...] Melzie aka Rave Minx ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 15:03:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: everything is cool (was Re: MAKE MONEY FAST) everything is cool between me and and John. His post about Bruno and Rocco was just a misunderstanding. Please let's not start a flame war. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 15:15:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mistress loretta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mistress loretta Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 3 Feb 1994 02:05:06 -0500 from AARGH!, the ne-raves list is NOT THE PLACE FOR SHIT LIKE THIS TO BE SENT AROUND! It is a waste of band-width, nobody likes to get some hugh, dumb message, it wastes HD space, and is REALLY ANNOYING! So to Mr. Kohlhauff, what exactly did your post have to do with raves, and why would you send it to us. Please never do it again.... xx mistress loretta ps: this is in response to the "GET RICH QUICK" message, and sorry if I spoke rather misspoke for somebody on the list, but I felt that this message pretty well conveyed the general feeling about messages on here. l8r ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 17:38:15 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST What? This _IS_ Ne-Raves right? Or did I somehow get on the QVC mailing list? I have enough trouble reading all the Ne-Raves mail (which I enjoy), but I don't need or want junk E-Mail. So CUT THE SHIT OUT!!! Apocalypse ************************************************************************** * Joseph M. Harre * "God is like a big * HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU * * Canisius College * shiny man" * ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM * * Buffalo, NY * Rel. Studies Professor * (this space for rent)* ************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:42:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST In-Reply-To: <199402032124.QAA21983@umd5.umd.edu> from "The Mighty Huevo" at Feb 3, 94 05:38:15 pm Y'know, this stupid chain letter has been on Usenet for a long time. While it's truly dismaying to see it make its way to the private mailing lists, I'd sure like to know if it really worked for anyone. Personally, I like the idea of renaming it to LOSE.NET.ACCESS.FAST... -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 10:41:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KZIMMERMAN@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KZIMMERMAN@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Subject: The Letter Explained (was Re: MAKE MONEY FAST) X-News: eagle alt.sex:22426 From: pjebsen@onenation.gun.de (Peter Jebsen) Subject:Re: MAKE MONEY FAST Date: Wed, 2 Feb 94 19:54:26 -0100 Message-ID: In yjiang@andy.bgsu.edu writes: >> Read the following IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY >> ------------------ >--------------------------- >> Actual Experience of a LUCKY PERSON. You can be too rich if >> you are honest. >> Dear Friend, >> My name is Dave Rhodes. (...) >> >> 10. Peter Y. Jiang >> 214 Napoleon Rd. #208 >> Bowling Green, OH 43402 Here's some info about the chain letter crap which I found in news.admin.misc (the author gave me permission to forward it): >From: dbd@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney) >Subject: Re: Chain letter >Message-ID: <1994Jan28.193736.20763@martha.utcc.utk.edu> >Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System) >Organization: U. Tenn. Knoxville/Physics Dept. >References: <1994Jan28.181528.3563@midway.uchicago.edu> >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 19:37:36 GMT >Lines: 56 > >jfu2@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >>Hello, net. >> >>Someone posted a chain mail letter (reproduced below) to soc.culture.italian >>today. It is a classic pyramid scheme, of the type that is illegal if sent >>by U.S. mail, thinly disguised as a "mail order buisness" opportunity. >>Judging from the letter, I would guess that it was posted to 9 other >>USENET groups as well, although I could find no other examples in the >>groups that I read (and a couple more selected at random). >> >>I'm not sure what to do about this. Is it illegal? Is it technically >>fraud? It sure seems like an abuse of USENET. Advice welcome. >> >>Carlo Graziani > >Well, for one thing, you didn't need to repost the *whole bloody thing*... >This is the standard Dave Rhodes MAKE.MONEY.FAST letter, which has been >quiescent over break. What you can do: mail the person and tell them to >quit it; mail root/news/postmaster on their machine and ask them, politely, >to have a short talk with the person and tell them to quit it; and look up >the net.legends FAQ draft by ftp at cathouse.org, which has a short section >on who Dave Rhodes was in the first place, and an example of something you >can mail back to this sort of person... and sigh, because unless you log off >UseNet now forever, you're bound to see it again somewhere (not from this >person, of course, because this person will have soon received email from >hundreds, if not thousands, of peeved UseNetters, and so will their sysadmin... > >>******************** Scam follows ********************************* (the same letter as the one posted by Peter Y. Jiang) Finally, an excerpt from the Dave Rhodes entry in the FAQ mentioned by David: >Dave Rhodes and MAKE.MONEY.FAST: >In every Paradise there is at least one fatal flaw. In every mail system, >there is sooner or later a chain letter. UseNet, luckily, seems to have >been adopted by only one such - but it pops up in more places and faster >than kudzu, and is about as hard to kill completely. Actually, nobody >currently knows much about Dave Rhodes (...) - except that he >wrote the template for the first MAKE.MONEY.FAST pyramid scheme. His >name and address have long since fallen off the top of any of the current >copies... There is something of a miniFAQ available on this post. Advice >to new netters panting to try it out and make $50,000 in an afternoon: I >can tell you right now what you're gonna get - an extremely full emailbox, >a ticked-off sysadmin (because your emailbox is full of letter bombs from >irate UseNetters who snapped at seeing this cr*p in their newsgroups for >the fifth time in two weeks, and because several thousand >*un*snapped-as-yet UseNetters email her directly saying "Talk to this kid; >it's illegal, a waste of time, and annoying), and a rapidly-vanishing >UseNet access (wave bye-bye to it for a looooong time, if you're not >lucky...). The letter itself says it's legal, you say? It's lying; it's >known as a Ponzi or pyramid scheme, and is wire fraud for *sending* the >letter, *and* postal fraud for receiving any of the money thru the U.S. >Mail (can you say Federal Case, boys'n'girls?)... And you *have* to leave >a trail directly to yourself, name and address - or else it *can't* work >(hee hee)... Save yourself the grief: just say NO to Dave.Rhodes . Recently >voted number one on list of people *every* UseNetter would like to see >die an excruciatingly slow and painful death. If we're lucky, it does >not get posted at all (for a day or two). - Peter -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- pjebsen@onenation.gun.de | Peter Jebsen | Without humps, pjebsen@well.sf.ca.us | NEW FUNK TIMES | there's no CompuServe 100021,1314 | Funkateers Int'l| getting over! ------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 17:51:29 -0400 Reply-To: tranhc@bcvax1.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: TRANHC@BCVAX1.BC.EDU Subject: any raves coming uo in Boston? hi. just wanted to find out about any raves... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:34:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: any raves coming uo in Boston? well, no...at least not til March 26 (Red) and that's going to be in Fitchburg, same location as Yellow ---------- From: NE-RAVES To: Multiple recipients of list NE-RAVES Subject: any raves coming uo in Boston? Date: Thursday, February 03, 1994 17:51 hi. just wanted to find out about any raves... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:46:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul Fabozzi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul Fabozzi Subject: Phone number for RED Does anybody have the phone number for RED in boston, i would like to get directions from a local airport. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:46:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Morris Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Morris Subject: Commercial jingle Ok, this is a wierd request but if anyone has a sample of the Lender's Bagel commercial when they say 'First you crave, then you rave...', PLEASE can you put it on a disk or cassete tape it or something like that and reply to me? I will pay for the media used. I need it for a mix I am doing. Thanx! :) PaniK ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 17:06:41 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: MAKE MONEY FAST explained Received: from EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU by EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #5526) id <01H8GFCQNCW08Y5513@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>; Thu, 3 Feb 1994 16:52:15 EST Date: Thu, 03 Feb 1994 16:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: KZIMMERMAN@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST To: kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Message-id: <01H8GFCQOYR68Y5513@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU> X-VMS-To: in%"kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message-ID: In yjiang@andy.bgsu.edu writes: >> Read the following IF YOU WANT TO MAKE MONEY >> ------------------ >--------------------------- >> Actual Experience of a LUCKY PERSON. You can be too rich if >> you are honest. >> Dear Friend, >> My name is Dave Rhodes. (...) >> >> 10. Peter Y. Jiang >> 214 Napoleon Rd. #208 >> Bowling Green, OH 43402 Here's some info about the chain letter crap which I found in news.admin.misc (the author gave me permission to forward it): >From: dbd@martha.utcc.utk.edu (David DeLaney) >Subject: Re: Chain letter >Message-ID: <1994Jan28.193736.20763@martha.utcc.utk.edu> >Sender: usenet@martha.utcc.utk.edu (USENET News System) >Organization: U. Tenn. Knoxville/Physics Dept. >References: <1994Jan28.181528.3563@midway.uchicago.edu> >Date: Fri, 28 Jan 1994 19:37:36 GMT >Lines: 56 > >jfu2@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >>Hello, net. >> >>Someone posted a chain mail letter (reproduced below) to soc.culture.italian >>today. It is a classic pyramid scheme, of the type that is illegal if sent >>by U.S. mail, thinly disguised as a "mail order buisness" opportunity. >>Judging from the letter, I would guess that it was posted to 9 other >>USENET groups as well, although I could find no other examples in the >>groups that I read (and a couple more selected at random). >> >>I'm not sure what to do about this. Is it illegal? Is it technically >>fraud? It sure seems like an abuse of USENET. Advice welcome. >> >>Carlo Graziani > >Well, for one thing, you didn't need to repost the *whole bloody thing*... >This is the standard Dave Rhodes MAKE.MONEY.FAST letter, which has been >quiescent over break. What you can do: mail the person and tell them to >quit it; mail root/news/postmaster on their machine and ask them, politely, >to have a short talk with the person and tell them to quit it; and look up >the net.legends FAQ draft by ftp at cathouse.org, which has a short section >on who Dave Rhodes was in the first place, and an example of something you >can mail back to this sort of person... and sigh, because unless you log off >UseNet now forever, you're bound to see it again somewhere (not from this >person, of course, because this person will have soon received email from >hundreds, if not thousands, of peeved UseNetters, and so will their sysadmin... > >>******************** Scam follows ********************************* (the same letter as the one posted by Peter Y. Jiang) Finally, an excerpt from the Dave Rhodes entry in the FAQ mentioned by David: >Dave Rhodes and MAKE.MONEY.FAST: >In every Paradise there is at least one fatal flaw. In every mail system, >there is sooner or later a chain letter. UseNet, luckily, seems to have >been adopted by only one such - but it pops up in more places and faster >than kudzu, and is about as hard to kill completely. Actually, nobody >currently knows much about Dave Rhodes (...) - except that he >wrote the template for the first MAKE.MONEY.FAST pyramid scheme. His >name and address have long since fallen off the top of any of the current >copies... There is something of a miniFAQ available on this post. Advice >to new netters panting to try it out and make $50,000 in an afternoon: I >can tell you right now what you're gonna get - an extremely full emailbox, >a ticked-off sysadmin (because your emailbox is full of letter bombs from >irate UseNetters who snapped at seeing this cr*p in their newsgroups for >the fifth time in two weeks, and because several thousand >*un*snapped-as-yet UseNetters email her directly saying "Talk to this kid; >it's illegal, a waste of time, and annoying), and a rapidly-vanishing >UseNet access (wave bye-bye to it for a looooong time, if you're not >lucky...). The letter itself says it's legal, you say? It's lying; it's >known as a Ponzi or pyramid scheme, and is wire fraud for *sending* the >letter, *and* postal fraud for receiving any of the money thru the U.S. >Mail (can you say Federal Case, boys'n'girls?)... And you *have* to leave >a trail directly to yourself, name and address - or else it *can't* work >(hee hee)... Save yourself the grief: just say NO to Dave.Rhodes . Recently >voted number one on list of people *every* UseNetter would like to see >die an excruciatingly slow and painful death. If we're lucky, it does >not get posted at all (for a day or two). - Peter -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- pjebsen@onenation.gun.de | Peter Jebsen | Without humps, pjebsen@well.sf.ca.us | NEW FUNK TIMES | there's no CompuServe 100021,1314 | Funkateers Int'l| getting over! ------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------- kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu the surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently--Nietzsche Electro is the way. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 23:37:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Andrew J. Nau III" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Andrew J. Nau III" Subject: thrift store hipster fashion Attention all Ravers: If you can buy it at a thrift store. You don't deserve it. Plug out! MTV has convinced you that it is okay, but you will regret it when the resistance uprises! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 27 Jan 1994 17:36:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: DELTA In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 27 Jan 1994 10:54:42 EST > I hope everybody sent melzie mail if they were going to delta. > I'm checking with the HOM as to how big of a space we need for pre-meeting > place. uh... I usually don't write Melzie unless I need or can offer a ride. I thought it was just for hooking up with rides... anyway some additions: me & Phil Z, Harry/Wazzup & Chewbacca/Chaz possibly Liz (originally from Your Sister's House fame in Sans Fransisco) from Pittsburgh: China/Krys, Hossam/Sphinx, Justin/Cutlet I don't know if Fluid, Fran, or Stephen/Boy Prince Albert are still on the list but they all said they were going. just a few additions :) BPA said he was organizing a pre-gathering/dinner sort of thing but I haven't heard a peep from him yet. I have yet to hear from Harry (my ride!) but I'll take a train if I have to! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 00:14:15 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: RED phone Hey all! I have two numbers for Red. The flyer they're from is a bit old but it shouldn't make a difference. Boston: 617-541-4258 NYC: 212-631-4290 It's been postponed once or twice, but *thankfully* this looks like it will happen. Nice to see something local for once! *smile* --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 00:35:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: Haydn in the pot :) In-Reply-To: <9402032022.AA09193@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "Mel-zo-rama" at Feb 3, 94 2:55 pm > Well...ya'll will remember all about the terrible articles appearing in > the Baltimore Sun Paper.....well, to make anyone feel better abuot > this...as in a "well, he got his anyway" type thing.... > > Roger Haydn is up on sexual harrasment charges [among other things] but > his long term secretary :) > > [inside scoop...] > > > Melzie aka Rave Minx > KICK ASS MELZIE!!!!!!WOOOOWIEEEEE!!!! all the way from this god forsaken land of Indiana!!!!! Hope you're out here soon..... NEd! P.S. ---> I might be in D.C. some time this semester!!!! NEd! NEd! NEd! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 00:48:49 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: plasma1000@AOL.COM Subject: PLEASUREDOME94 On April 9, 1994 Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Live PA's - Baby Ford 1.8.7. Support DJ's - Dave Angel Colin Faver ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 00:48:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: PLEASUREDOME94 In-Reply-To: <199402040547.AAA24179@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 4 Feb 1994 plasma1000@aol.com wrote: > On April 9, 1994 Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from > the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. > > Live PA's - > Baby Ford > 1.8.7. > > Support DJ's - > Dave Angel > Colin Faver more nfo, mon! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 01:03:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: plasma1000@AOL.COM Subject: PLEASUREDOME94 On April 9, 1994, Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Energizer, Sandman, Plasma and Apple present: PLEASUREDOME94. Live PA's Baby Ford 1.8.7. DJ's Colin Faver Dave Angel Keoki Dmitry Jason Jinx King Britt James Christian On-e Gerret Frerrich Who Sun Mr Kleen Lee Speed Demon Greg Sargent Odyssy Kieth Kennebeck Karl Matthews Sketti Bobble LG Double 07 Deitrich Robby Dyno Acid Trevor Lamont Reese Tiff This event will take place in three areas under one massive roof at a venue that is completely new, 100% legal and 100% pleasure. If anybody is interested in vending, promoting, running bus trips or would like their info line on the flyer, please call 410.347.1460. But hurry, flyers are going to print next week. (A DC line is upcomming.) Comments and suggestions can also be left at my address: PLASMA1000@aol.com. Aloha ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 01:40:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: RED ok i am hearing mixed opinions in the boston community re: RED s{_ome people are psyched for it...simply cause there is nothing full scale going on in boston now and hasn't been in a while...and because there will be a grea group of people going (at least who plan to now) whereas soem are saying that since the demise of Big Fun House and some of the promoters from blue and yellow will not be participating...that the group putting it on has lost its creative edge long with the loss of these people who knows i know i want to go...i need to get to another rave before i pass an entire school year barren of any true raves :( guess we'll see what happens Love and Frogs!!! Neith ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 23:07:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: Commercial jingle In-Reply-To: <199402040144.UAA19832@umd5.umd.edu> Michael Morris writes: > Ok, this is a wierd request but if anyone has a sample of the Lender's > Bagel commercial when they say 'First you crave, then you rave...', PLEASE > can you put it on a disk or cassete tape it or something like that and > reply to me? I will pay for the media used. I need it for a mix I am > doing. Thanx! :) ARGH!! NO! I had this idea!! :-) It's such a cheezily obvious sample though... if it comes on the set sometime soon I'll grab it for you. check out ren and stimpy for some really great stuff too. - dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:18:43 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MOLARI@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Alexandre -. Molari" Subject: pleasure dome94 let me say you something: Ya must go to pleasure dome 94 if ya want not to die stupid ;-) (* don't take last sentence too seriously as usual pliz *) Dave Angel is definetely the trance GOD in Europe (musyt say on the planet:). Colin Favor is very very great too (more techno than trance). So, ya have 2 of the best trance/techno dj's there, don't miss it!! psyched - PLanet-E ps: even if a load of people consider Sven as the God, don't believe them :) ahhahahah ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 13:37:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: pleasure dome94 In-Reply-To: <199402041428.JAA20309@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 4 Feb 1994, Alexandre -. Molari wrote: > let me say you something: > Ya must go to pleasure dome 94 if ya want not to die stupid ;-) > (* don't take last sentence too seriously as usual pliz *) All I had to see was that wonderful 1.8.7 and then I knew I was going to go. :) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 14:36:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Re: NRG, Yet another "New Thing" Here In Oz In-Reply-To: <199402030450.XAA13839@umd5.umd.edu> > Anyone over there happened by any NRG? It's apparently a mix > of Special K and Speed that's going around Melbourne. I'm getting > some sent up to me for examination ( ala the White Hearts review ) > and a trial use with a friend. Watch for a review soon( ish :)... Ummmm... why would you want to put both a tranquilizer and a methamphetamine into your body at the same time? I really can't imagine it's too pleasant or healthful... --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "Just that gangsta glare..." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 12:07:09 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJSTEVE@UWYO.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJSTEVE@UWYO.EDU subscribe to North East Raves mailing list steve ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 15:13:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: pleasure dome94 >> let me say you something: >> Ya must go to pleasure dome 94 if ya want not to die stupid ;-) >> (* don't take last sentence too seriously as usual pliz *) > >All I had to see was that wonderful 1.8.7 and then I knew I was going to >go. :) don't ferget that last DJ on that huge list...I hear he's pretty decent... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 18:39:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: any raves coming uo in Boston? In-Reply-To: Wei-En Chang "Re: any raves coming uo in Boston?" (Feb 3, 7:34pm) > well, no...at least not til March 26 (Red) and that's going to be in > Fitchburg, same location as Yellow ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 17:59:53 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: thrift store hipster fashion In-Reply-To: <199402040442.XAA16071@umd5.umd.edu> >DATE: Thu, 3 Feb 1994 23:37:54 -0500 >FROM: Andrew J. Nau III > >Attention all Ravers: > >If you can buy >it at a thrift store. You don't >deserve it. >Plug out! > >MTV has convinced you that it is okay, but you will regret it when the >resistance uprises! Um, er, what the heck is the meaning of this? Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:30:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: I NEED MORE!! =) Please, anyone.....This is a cry for help..... I'm looking for more INTER-action. More bbs #'s, more acess, chat rooms, ect. I'm looking for fractal programs to download... ANYTHING! If anyone could help it would be well apreciated! send all info directly to: DLAPUMA1@Ithaca.ithaca.edu Thanks, Dave ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 16:59:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: please don't yell at me for sending meaningless stuff..=) From: ITHACA::CS110PAE 1-FEB-1994 20:53:42.82 To: DLAPUMA1 CC: Subj: Cows on parade From: ITHACA::BVASILE1 20-JAN-1994 08:51:59.22 To: CS110PAE CC: Subj: from brian From: ITHACA::CS110RXR 10-DEC-1993 19:28:56.03 To: BVASILE1 CC: Subj: cows From: IN%"anon@info.umd.edu" 9-DEC-1993 23:55:36.36 To: IN%"cs110rxr@ithaca.edu" CC: Subj: ASCII cows: 1 of 3 Return-path: Received: from info.umd.edu by ithaca.edu (PMDF V4.2-14 #3718) id <01H6ALS5LEDC8WWULD@ithaca.edu>; Thu, 9 Dec 1993 23:54:50 EST Received: by info.umd.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA28236; Thu, 9 Dec 93 23:53:59 -0500 Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 23:53:59 -0500 From: anon@info.umd.edu (U of MD Gopher) Subject: ASCII cows: 1 of 3 To: cs110rxr@ithaca.edu Message-id: <9312100453.AA28236@info.umd.edu> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Apparently-To: cs110rxr@ithaca.edu This section is from the document '/info/email-lists/Funny'. From ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu Thu Mar 10 04:57:48 1994 Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1993 06:57:51 GMT From: Eric Jaron Stieglitz Newsgroups: alt.cows.moo.moo.moo Subject: ASCII cows: 1 of 3 A number of friends sent me these. Enjoy! --==>> THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO COWS <<==-- as you've NEVER seen them before! ________________________ (__) / \ * OFFICIAL EDITION * (oo) ( November 1989 Version! ) /-------\/ --'\________________________/ * WORLDWIDE DISTRIBUTION * / | || * ||----|| Edited by Mar ^^ ^^ Please send your submissions to: Cow ewtileni@pucc.Princeton.EDU // ewtileni@pucc.BITNET - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - (__) (__) (__) (__) (oo) (oo) (oo) (oo) /-------\/-* /-------\/ /-------\/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ / | || \ )*)(\/* / * / | || * ||----|| * \ |||/)|/()( ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ \/|(/)(/\/(,,/ \)|(/\/|)(/\ Cow munching Grass munching Cow in water Cow in trouble on grass on cow (__) (__) * (__) * (__) (oo) (oo) \ (oo) | (oo) /--------\/ /-oooooo-\/ \-------\/ \-------\/ * o| || * ooooooooo o o| || / || ||----|| ooooooooooooo ||----||>==/-----|| ooo^^ ^^ ooooooooooooooooo ^^ ^^ ^^ Cow taking Cow in deep Cow getting the shit a shit shit kicked out of her (__) (oo) U /-------\/ /---V / | || * |--| . * ||----|| ^^ ^^ Cow at 1 meter. Cow at 100 meters. Cow at 10,000 meters. (__) )__( vv vv (oo) (oo) ||----|| * /-------\/ *-------\/ || | / / | || / | || /\-------/ * ||----|| / ||----|| (oo) ^^ ^^ vv vv (~~) American Cow Polish Cow Australian Cow (__) (__) (__) (oo) ____ (oo) _---_(oo) /-------\/ /- --\/ /- -\/ / | || / | || /| || * ||----|| * ||___-|| * ||___-|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Freshman Cow at Freshman Cow Freshman Cow start of school After the "Freshman 15" After the "Freshman 20" (__) (__) (__) (OO) (@@) (xx) /-------\/ /-------\/ /-------\/ / | || / | || / | || * ||----|| * ||----|| * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Cow who drank Jolt Cow who ate Cow who used Jolt to wash psychadelic mushrooms down psychadelic mushrooms /\ __ / \ || (__) (__) \ / (_||_) SooS (oo) \/ (oo) /------S\/S /-------\/ /S /-------\/ / | || / | || / S / | || * ||----|| * ||----||___/ S * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ This cow belonged Ben Franklin owned Abe Lincoln's to George Washington this cow cow (__) * (__) (oo) \ (oo) /------\/ \-------\/ /| |/ | | ==$ || / | [) || ||----|| * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Old "One Arm" belonged This cow was given to to Ceasar's Palace Hugh Hefner for his Birthday (___) (__) (__) ( O ) (oo) (oo) /-------\ / \/--------\/ / | ||V | | * ||----|| ||------|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ The cyclops that Jason and This cow lived with the Argonauts met had this cow Dr. Doolittle (__) (__) [##] (@o) /-------\/ /-------\/ /------- (__) / | || / | || / | || (oo) * ||----|| * ||----|| * ||----|---\/ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^ This cow belonged This cow lived with This cow belonged to to Flash Gordon the Little Rascals the Headless Horseman (____) (____) (____) (oo ) (o o) ( O O) /-----------\ / /-----\ /---- /-----------\ / / || | \/ / | | \/ | / || | \/ / || |||| \ | | | | | / || |||| * ||||-----|||| *| | |-----| | | * ||||-----|||| /\/\ /\/\ /\ /\ /\ /\ ^^^^ ^^^^ This cow belonged This was Salvatore No one was sure whether to Pablo Picasso Dali's favorite cow M.C. Escher's cow had four legs or eight O__O \_|_/ (oo) (oo) /-------\/ /-------\/ / | || / | || * ||----|| * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Cow at Disneyland Cow visiting the Statue of Liberty (__) (__) ^^ (oo) (--) ^^^^ /-------\/ /-\/-\ ^^^^^ / | || /| |\ ^^^^^ * ||----|| ^ | | ^ ^^^^^^^^ ====^^====^^==== | | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^/ /----\ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ / \ \ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ * ^ Cow Hanging Ten at Malibu Cow sunning at Fort Lauderdale (What a bod, huh guys?) )\ (__) / \ (oo) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cow swimming at Amityville (Where Jaws was filmed, for those less educated) * (__) \ (DD) \ /-------\/ |\ / | ||_\_/ \ | \ (__) * ||----| \\|| \(oo) ^^ ^ \||\ \\/ Cow chugging brews and staring at ^^ \|| sunbathers at Fort Lauderdale \\ || \\|| \|| ^^ / / / / / / / / / / / \\_ / / / / / / / / / / / / \_ / / / / / _______ / / Cow skiing a Black Diamond at Aspen / / / / | \ / / / / / (__)| / / / / / (oo)| / / ( @@@ ) /-------\/ | ( @@ ) (------------) / | ||^_| @@ (__) ( *>COUGH<* ) * ||----| @@ (oo) . . . ( *>COUGH<* ) ^^ ^ /--UU--\/ (____________) / | || Cow sheltering from English Weather * ||---|| (New) Jersey Cow O O O O \ \ / / \ \ (__) / (__) \ \ (xx)/ (DD) \ +--------+\// /-------\/ \| | / / | || +--------+ * ||----|| ^^ ^^ Cow fantasizing about "Riding the Mechanical Bull" at Gillies in Texas o o |__| (__) (__) (oo) (oo) =(oo)= oo /-------\/ /-------vv /-------\/ / | || / | || / | || * ||----|| * ||----|| * ||----|| ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ ~~ bill bixby bela lugosi boris karloff claude rains male relative cow cow cow cow x xxxx|xxxx xxxxxxx|xxxxxxx | // (__) // (__) (__) (oo)// (oo)===(oo) /-------\// /-------\/ \/-------\ / | |// / | || || | \ * ||----| * ||----|| ||----|| * ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Julie Andrews Cow Siamese cows o o (__) ^ \ / (oo) / \ / _____\/___/ (__) \__/ / /\ / / (oo) _______(oo) ^ / * / /---------\/ /| ___ \/ / ___/ / | x=a(b)|| / | { }|| *----/\ * ||------|| * ||{___}|| / \ ^^ ^^ ||-----|| / / ^^ ^^ ^ ^ Mathematical Television This cow does Disco Cow Cow (That's what comes of (developer of (Cow-thode snorting cow-caine) cow-culus) Ray Tube) o | [---] | | | | |------========| /----|---|\ | **** |=======| /___/___\___\ o | **** |=======| | | ___| |==============| | | ___ {(__)} |==============| \-----------/ []( )={(oo)} |==============| \ \ / / /---===--{ \/ } | ----------------- / | NASA |==== | | | * ||------||-----^ ----------------- || | | / / \ \ ^^ ^ | / ---- \ ^^ ^^ This cow jumped over the Moon (__) ([][]) "I have this recurring dream __\/_--U about golden arches.".. (__) /\ \__ ^ :..("") /\\\ / / //\ ____\_____\/ // /----^/__/\ /\ // \\/ \___ / // \\\____/--\-- // /-/__________/ // /====== \/ =======/==============// *_/ / \ /^ // / \\ / \ ^ // \\ Psycowlogist and patient (___) \^^^^^^^^\ (__) (o o) \^^^^^^^^\\ (oo) \ / *-----\_______\/\/ \--O--/ ^_______/ --- \______^ // -----\ ^--------\ \S/ /\_____^ \\/_^{} /==V===[] \______/ \_____\\// \__/ It's a bird... //\\ The Boss It's a plane... // \\ (Bruce Holstien) // // ^^ ^^ ================== _____________________________ H H | |-------------| H (__) H | | ________ | H (oo) H __ | COWNTY | | (|__|) | | H / \/ \ H / \ | JAIL | | |oo| | | H | | | | H | STOP | | | |__|\/|__| | H D===b=----- H \ __ / | | o | H^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^H || | | ^ | H H || | | ] | H H || | | | H H || |_____________|_____________| H H || ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Some cows get in trouble... Cattle Guard ( ( ) ( ( ) ) ( ( ) ( / ) ( ( \\ ) ( | // ) | | (__) | | (oo) (__) | | ----\/ ______(oo)_____ | | || ( _)_______(__) ) **| | ---|| \ __________/ ``'---------^^ Cow Hide Cow Pie \ | / ___________ ____________ \ \_# / | ___ | _________ | | \ #/ | | | | | = = = = | | | | | | \\# | |`v'| | | | | | \# // | --- ___ | | | || | | | | | | | #_// | | | | | | | | \\ #_/_______ | | | | | | || | | | | | | | \\# /_____/ \ | --- | | | | | \# |+ ++| | | |^^^^^^| | | | || | | | | \# |+ ++| | | |^^^^^^| | | | || | | ^^^| (^^^^^) |^^^^^#^| H |_ |^| | |||| | |^^^^^^| | | ( ||| ) | # ^^^^^^ | | |||| | | | ||||||| | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^________/ /_____ | | |||| | | | ||||||| | `v'- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ | ||||||| | || |`. (__) (__) ( ) (oo) (oo) /---V /-------\/ \/ --------\ * | | / | || ||_______| \ * ||W---|| || || * ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ "Cow Town" \ (__) (__) \\(oo) (\/) /-----\\\/ /-------\/ / | (##) / | || * ||----||" * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ~~ ~~ This cow plays bagpipes. Cow from Beijing (__) (__) (__) (\/) ($$) (**) /-------\/ /-------\/ /-------\/ / | 666 || / |=====|| / | || * ||----|| * ||----|| * ||----|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Satanic cow This cow is a Yuppie Cow in love (__) (__) (oo) (oo) /-'''''-\/ /-------------------\/ / |'''''|| / | || * ||''''|| * ||----------------|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Cow in Argyle Stretch Cow * ** ** * ** * * * ** * / / \ * * \ \ / \ / / (__) * / / \ \ (__) \ \ /--------(00) / (00) / / / | |( ) \ /-------\/ \ \ * ||---- ||() / / | || / / || || \ \ * ||----|| \ \ ^^ ^^ / / ^^ ^^ / / Cow Chewing Marbles Cow in Heat (__) \__\ (__) (oo) o (oo) (oo) /-------\/ ____\___\/ *+-------\/ / | || / | || ||______|| * ||----|| * ||----|| ||----|| OO OO OO OO OO OO Detroit cow Mustang cow pickup cow (__) (__) \_||_~ (oo) (oo) (*||*) /---------------\/ /----\/ /-------\||/ / | || / || / | || * ||------------|| *-||----|| * ||----|| OO OO OO OO OO }{ li-moo-cow fastback cow teenager's cow ____ (____) .xxxx. (__) '(oo)` (oo) /-----'-\/ ` /-------\/ / | |============> / | || * ||----| (~) * ||----|| ~~ ~ ~~ ~~ Moo-ammar Cowdafi holy cow armed and dangerous (___) (___) (o o) (o o) /-------\ / /-------\ / / | ||O / | O~ ||O * ||,---|| * ||,---|| ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ A Bull A-bomb-in-a-bull No-bull (---) ( ) /-----\ (___) | | (o o) | | | (-----) \ / | | | / / \ O | * | * | O | ^^ ^^ ----- Coward Phone Bull __________________________ }__{ / Send YOUR cow pictures to \ (00) ( ewtileni@pucc.Princeton.EDU ) :****** \/ ==='\___________________________/' : # ## ##****## "" "" | | | | * | | (__) | | \ (__) | | (oo) | | \ (oo) | | /-------\/ | | -----------\/-- | | / | || | | ----| |--- | | * ||----|| | | -------- | \______^^____^^___ | \_________________ | _________________ | _________________ | / | / | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | / \ / \ Cow perched on a tree. Cow attempting to fly off tree. | | | | | | | | | | | \_________________ | _________________ | / | | | | | | | | | | | | (__) | | *---------(..) / \ ^^----^^\/ Cow that has failed miserably in the attempt. . /\ . . : (__) . / \ . . : (xx) / \ . . * : __------\/ / \ * : * ||____|| | (__) | . . ** : / | |\ . /| (oo) |\ ** : / | /\/\ | \ . . * : Hamburger . / |=|==|=| \ . * : . / | | | | \ . : / USA | ^||^ |NASA \ . : * (__) |______| ^^ |______| . : \ (oo) . (__||__) . . : \-------\/ . /_\ /_\ . . . : 8-| || !!! !!! : ||----|| : ^^ ^^ The cow that jumped over the moon. : Flying Cow ...---... ../ / | \ \.. ./ / / | \ \ \. / / / | \ \ \ / / / | \ \ \ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | / \ | /(__) \|/ (oo) /---++--\/ / | || || * ||-++-|| ^^ ^^ Cow surviving attack by Red Baron ..---.. (__) / \ (oo) | RIP | /-------\/ | | / | || | | * ||----|| | | ^^ ^^ \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\///////////////// Elvis's Cow... ...Or is it alive and living in tax exile??? (__) (oo) /---+ +--\/ / | | | || * ||-+ +-|| ^^ ^^ * David Copperfield's Cow David Copperfield's other Cow (__) (oo) /-------\/ / | || * ||----|| ^^ ^^ (__) (__) (oo) (oo) /-------\/ \/-------\ / | || -^^- || | \ * ||---- -^^- || * ^^ ^^ (__) (__) (oo) (oo) /-------\/ \/-------\ / | || || | \ * ||----|| ||----|| * ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ Barnum's Troupe of performing cows (__) _--------_ (oo) |__________| BIG /-------\/ XXXXXXXXXX MAC / | 007 || __________ * ||----|| |_ _| ^^ ^^ -------- Cow licenced to kill Enemy Cow after having met previous cow (__) (oo) /'^^^-m (__) / '' ` ) (oo) o /| /|/|_ | /| / \/ / / _ / | | | | / _\===^ ___\_____/___ |_____|_| ___|__/ |/\ (___________(_) //|| || * ^ ^ * ww ww Mrs. O'Leary's Cow Cow'nt Dracula ____ ____ |+++++| |++++| ___ |++++| ____ |+++++| |++++| |++ ______________________ |++++| |+++++| |++++| |++/ /( )\ \ |++++| |+++++| __ | | |+| |-oo- | \______ |++++| |+++++| |++| - - -----(__)--| \__\/ _(__)_ \ ---------------------------------- o ( oo /_______________________| (oo) \ | __ | _/\_| | M O O - B U S T E R S|__\/\ /| | /oo| - Bleaurgh! |-| \\____ ------ )_ /| /\ -|_ \_|-_|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 0 _| * \/ * \ | __________________________________/ | W| \ \_/ /----------------- \ \_/ / / /\ \ \___/ \___/ / / \ \ ^^^ ^^^ Who you gonna call...? (__) (__) (__) (----------) (00) (-o) (--) . . . ( *>YAWN<* ) /------\/ /------\/ /------\/ (----------) /| || /| || /| || * ||----|| * ||----|| * ||----|| Cow w/ Glasses Flirtatious cow (winking) Cow after pulling an all-nighter * (__) (__) (__) (__) \ (oo) (oo) (oo) (oo) \-------\/ /-------\/ /-------\/ /-------\/ /| |\ / / \ / \ / / \ \ //||----||\\ * //------\\ * \\--// * \\----\\ ^ ^^ ^^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Cow walking Cow jogging Same cow Cow breaking (__) (oo) (__) o * (__) \/ (oo)/ " | (oo) ____| \____ /-------\/(__ o=o=o=|------\/ ---/ --** / | / | | *____/ |___// * ||----|| ||----|| //--------/ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ //__ Cow Cow pooing Cow marching standing Side Front Side back (___) Where's all the bulls! (__) (__) (__) (__) (O O)/ ( oo (oo) oo ) ( ) ^ _/\ /\_ ^ /\_| /\/\ |_/\ / \ \\/ O \// - - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ (___) ( OO \_ | - Got some cows that aren't in here? Add yours to the official \O collection! Send them to: ewtileni@pucc.Princeton.EDU (___) ( -- \_ | - G'nite, and thank you for your support. Zzz z z z z z z z \O Thanks to EVERYONE who contributed COWS! --- Eric Jaron Stieglitz ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu School: (212) 853-6883 "You ate the only thing I ever loved!" Home: (401) 421-7479 -Seymour, LSoH ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 4 Feb 1994 17:01:15 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: Commercial jingle he he.... Darshan a I saw this commercial on tv the other day...... we couldn't stop laughing :) :) peace. later. <><><><> kherlihy@center.colgate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 00:37:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: whatever happend with... the ne-raves video tape?????? with shots form the picnics etc last i knew i was next in line for it and never got it *pout* laura do you still have it? Or do any of you have a copy of it that i could view??? please love and frogs!!! neith ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 00:45:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: speaking of picnics the first sign of spring.. some time this april or so... we're gonn have ourselves PICNIC # 4 !!! in central park.... get your smiles ready.. :) >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 16:02:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: commercial >Ok, this is a wierd req >uest but if anyone has a sample of the Lender's >Bagel commercial when they say 'First you crave, then you rave...', PLEASE >can you put it on a disk or cassete tape it or something like that and >reply to me? I will pay for the media used. I need it for a mix I am >doing. Thanx! :) PaniK, That IS a weird request, because if I had it, I'd probably be using it. Not that I wouldn't share, but in that case it would turn into another "can you feel it?" and wind up on some samlping CD for all the hackers to use, and we wouldn't want that to happen, now would we? But alas, I don't. Jason P.S. If you do get a hold of it, please let me know, I'd love to get my hands on it. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 17:57:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: any raves coming uo in Boston? In-Reply-To: <199402040043.TAA13861@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 3 Feb 1994, Wei-En Chang wrote: > well, no...at least not til March 26 (Red) and that's going to be in > Fitchburg, same location as Yellow > ---------- > From: NE-RAVES > To: Multiple recipients of list NE-RAVES > Subject: any raves coming uo in Boston? > Date: Thursday, February 03, 1994 17:51 > > hi. just wanted to find out about any raves... > trying to get together a mini-rave here in Providence RI on February 26th its a full moon , call it ---> LOONY more posted later... your faithful boy -------------- Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:31:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Ride from Providence In-Reply-To: <199402052124.QAA04934@umd5.umd.edu> I want to get out tonight---Sat Feb. 5th can anyone pass through Providence RI tonight???\ I don't care where we go----> I'll check my messages in just a little while--- Can meet at Luna-Sea or anyplace down here Desperately wanting to Dance in Providence your faithful boy Paul Paul or we could have a party in my squat if anyone is willing to bring some baby sound equipment and turnatables. papa@world.std.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 18:46:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: UPCOMING... Just though I'd let you all know about a couple of parties coming to the NY area soon... -> Cannabis Action Network presents the first ever hardcore underground event for the re-legalization of marajuana... SPICE - February 19, 1994...with your herbal audio pilots DX-13 (industrial strength) TERA (back to basics) SOUL SLINGER (liquid sky) DENARD (digitek) HEATHER HEART (under one sky) JIMMY CRASH (direct drive) ADAM X (groove records) DAVE TRANCE (caffeine/essence) INSTINE (mental unity) $13/non-member $10/member Tickets on sale Feb. 12th @ Groove Records (Brooklyn) 718-714-5232, Planet X (NJ) 908-249-0304, Liquid Sky (Manhattan) 212-343-0532 -> A.C.M.E. Laboratories present THE FANTASY PROJECT...on March 5, 1994. with DJ's Doc Martin & John Williams (San Fransisco Wicked Crew), Adam X (Groove Records), Osheen (RI), Frankie Bones (Groove Records), Happy (Boston), Troposphere (DMC Records), and on 4 turntables Micro & Luis (Caffeine). $18 @ the door...10pm til 10am...free afterhours...150,000 watts of acoustical harmony...more info call ACME LABS @ 914-463-9350 -> Saturday March 4, 1994...EXPANSION...expanding the Long Island Underground Presented by the Island Vibe Network...with DJ's Micro, James Christian, Joeski, plus other SURPRISE (and I mean SURPRISE) DJ's...call the Island Vibe Line 516-476-2520 for more info. For more info on other events coming soon call me @ 516-476-2520... peace... Spam (Island Vibe Network/Spam Promotions) PS OHH...as always...if you wanna be on the guest list for Caffeine call my info line or drop me a line... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 5 Feb 1994 20:34:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: commercial In-Reply-To: <199402052126.QAA05345@umd5.umd.edu> Jason Szostek writes: > P.S. If you do get a hold of it, please let me know, I'd > love to get my hands on it. Ok, anyone who wants the LENDER'S "First you crave, then you rave" commercial on audio cassette, slip $1.50 my way and i'll send it out to you. If you have facilities for digital formats like .AU, .WAV, or raw .SND files, let me know what specs you want it in (compression: ADPCM, ULAW, ALAW or none. resolution: 8 or 16 bits. sampling rate: anything up to 44.1khz) and I'll email it to you uuencoded. Mail tapes/postage or $1.50 to: Attn: Dan Nicholson The Levisionet Group 553 Thoreau Terrace Union, NJ 07083-9044 isn't it about time we started an NE-TECHNO-MAKERS list? - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 01:29:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: drum machine for sale (help me get out of debt! :( ) I've got a Boss Dr. 660 for sale. This drum machine has great 16-bit sounds, including many samples from TR-808, 909 and CR-78, as well as all other kinds of percussion (255 waveforms in all), built in reverb, delay, chorus and flanging. It's extremely tweakable and has an intuitive sequencer for building all your drum tracks. This is one of the best drum machines on the market today, but I've got to get rid of it to pay the bills. 8 months old, used very little, excellent condition in original packaging w/manual, power supply. $350 OBO + shipping. If interested, leave mail to moddan@vlad.bowker.com. - Dan Nicholson |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 03:24:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GREGORY JOSE SHEARER Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GREGORY JOSE SHEARER Subject: Re: drum machine for sale (help me get out of debt! :( ) great deal...wish E could afford\really really needed it. LOVE JD ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 16:01:10 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , HOney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HOney Subject: Boston organizers Hey, With the question about what's happening with raves in Boston, someone mentioned that because Big Fun House isn't around anymore, things have changed for the worst. I definitely remember that Big Fun House was at almost all local parties in Boston and Providence last year, but I wasn't aware that they had anything to do with the events besides selling t-shirts and hats and stuff like that. If anyone could fill me in on what they used to be, who they were, and what happened to them, then I'd greatly appreciate it. It seems like all the productions around here, save Balu's stuff (and he's got a rap of his own), have had major problems since this last summer, and have fallen apart. Thanks for the info. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 18:21:02 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Boston organizers Hey all, I'd like to know what is up with promoters around here. When I first got to boston, I expected to find a very new, very *nice* scene. But what I have found is not alot of anything. This is unfortunate because everyone I know has sooo much pent up energy they'd love to release at a really good party. I have been told that the reason nothing happens in the city of boston itself is that the cops are very strict. I find it hard to believe, however, that over-zealous cops could stifle the whole scene. Is there any way we can take the situation into out own hands? --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 18:14:00 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SESSIONS CHRISTOPHER VAUGHAN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: SESSIONS CHRISTOPHER VAUGHAN Subject: rave information (fwd) I recently set up my E-mail account and would like to become involved in the rave internet. Please send me any information you have and any other helpful information you think I might need(Other files, mailing lists, record reviews,people,etc.)Thank you very much! Chris Sessions. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 20:51:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: T2 Brothers and sisters, Hope to see you all this Friday at Timewarp II. The evening looks to be a gala event and will truly bust open Allentown as part of the east coast. To say the least I am very excited. Last Friday at 2 am when we normally close there were around 300 people still at the club and many had just arrived from Baltimore. I feel really bad that these people drove all the way and we couldn't stay open longer but security is only contracted until 2am. One very inspiring moment was that about 150 of these people had a stand-in until they were asked to leave. How cool, non-violent protest in 90s fashion. Let's just say your voice has been heard and that most likely we will be staying open until 3am hopefully starting in two weeks to compensate for all of the out-of-towners(Gee, when did I ever see the day people would be driving to Allentown instead of me having to drive to Philly or New York?) :) T3 is set for April 29 and confirmed spinners will be Adam X, Jimmy Crash, Wink, Scott Richmond, Goodwill and a lot more to be announced. Up and coming DJs continue to send those demos to my address before Feb. 28. Some really good ones have been received so far. House heads: March 4 DJ Pierre of Spooky(Guerilla Records UK) will be spinning at The Freight Yard. This is one of his few US dates. If you dig UK progressive house you know the score. That's it for now. Keep an open mind and an open heart. Love is the message. Cheers, geoffE GSC1@Lehigh.Edu geoffE 12 W. 4th St. Bethlehem, Pa 18015 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 21:27:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Oz Lubling Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Oz Lubling Subject: NEW IMAGES! CHECK IT OUT! hi guys! I've uploaded a few new images into techno.stanford /pub/incoming. including some neravers pictures and an amazing picture of bonnie dune beach. have fun, oz ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 22:30:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: Can someone dub me some AFX? hey there everyone! Like the subject says, I'm hoping someone would be kind enough to dub some Aphex for me. (I will provide tape shipping etc, of course =). What I was looking for in particular is: -Aphex Twin featuring Schizophrenia -Analog Bubblebath Vol 3 -Caustic Window Joyrex J5 EP (White Vinyl) -The Aphex Twin (it's RS9201...I have RS92019...same thing?) And if you have any info on where I could procure the originals or what not, I'd be very happy as well. =) Thanks a bunch! Harmon-e...pLUr! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ John | | "Man, I wish I had some 1200's!!" Sweeney | jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu | -Me | | ============================================================================== ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 00:16:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mistress loretta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mistress loretta Subject: return to nebula pre-party greetings, There will be a pre-party for return-to-nebula at my house (right near ALbany, NY) and it should be alot of fun. We just finished thhe work that we were doing on the house so it is all set, and "ret 2 go!" so all who are interrested drop me a line, and I will get things going. Peace out! xx mistress loretta ps: could everyone who came to the roller-rave pre-party drop me a line as I lost all of your addresses. and I just got my pictures back, you all look FAB-UL-OUS!:) l8r ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 00:30:27 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Grant D McHerron Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Grant D McHerron Subject: Weekend Vision :) Hey Folks, After a few weeks of disasters following the New Years Eve bashes, last Saturday's "VISION" rave was a welcome change. We managed to have a wikkid cool rave with good music, a happy vibe, great people, a neat location and no obvious police presence. I first found out about the thing from friends ( I hadn't been reading my email lately :) and raced down to Central Station ( the local rave music / tickets / clothing store ) to pick up some tix. They cost OZ$17 and compirsed of a C-90 tape from two of the DJ's who would be spinning that night. To get in, you flashed your tape. Wikkid... Simon, Anna and I gathered for dinner and then dialed the 0055 info line ( from the mobile no less - double the cost - sigh :) and we found that the gates would be closed from 2am to 7am to ensure the crwod stayed small and happy, etc etc ( it sorta stops the "gee - the pubs closed, what about this rave thing down the road" crowd from showing up and screwing the vibe ). The venue was the Graphiti Hall of Fame, a most interesting location in the Alexandria industrial area of Sydney. It's a large open area between three buildings that fronts onto the road. I'm not sure of its exact purpose but it appears to be a loading area for one of the three buildings during the day. One wall has a large pair of wire mesh gates in it ( covered with cloth on the night to "wall off" the street. One of the gates was kept slightly open and had a lean-to / shelter inside it where the gate crew put a slash mark on your "ticket", stamped your arm with a no-sweat marker and got you to fill in your name & address in a big old book ( I put down my Boston address - should be interesting to see if I get any promo material :). As you come in the gates, you discovered why this place is known as "The Graphiti Hall of Fame" - every inch of the walls surrounding you has been tagged with some brilliant art work. Trippers love the place 'cos not only do the bricks breathe but the art work comes alive and dances with you :) There were some old dilapidated vehicles in there that have also been tagged and these were used for seating and to help hold up the tarp over the drinks / refreshments area. A set of stairs lead up to a balcony where the toilets were ( in the same room as an airconditioning / generator unit ). The whole place has no roof so it was fun to sit outside and chat looking up at the summer night sky. The music itself was down a ramp into what appeared to be the actual loading area itself where goods were supposed to be marshalled. The place was long and narrow with a low roof crossed with beams and pipes - it was like dancing in a large freight container :) The DJ's and strobes were at one end and a good sized crowd was dancing to some wonderful hard trance and hardcore. Until about 2am a few of us wandered around outside and waited for our various substances to kick in. We had all partaken of the blessed weed and a small amount of casual speed I had managed to obtain earlier and so were feeling pretty nice. I had taken a half gram of some party speed ( very strong and rushy ) and was waiting for it to hit while the others scored some acid tabs ( shields? ) there. We sat in the park like school grounds opposite ( where seed pods were falling from the trees ) for a while before returning to the place. For most of the night I was in the dance area loving every minute of the music and floating off with the vibe, occasionally dropping back to earth to get water or chat with someone. The ravers there were mostly student type ravers ( tight tops, baggy jeans, casual gear ) with the odd club-kid raver ( like the studen raver but wearing labels or having "the look" ) and a smattering of crusties ( ex-hippie, alternate, piercings, etc ). Up the front were a few guys with just their jeans on having sweated their shirts off. It was real hot in there and at one point they apparently turned on some freezer units ( or boosted the hell out of the airconditioning :) 'cos water started condensing off a few of the pipes and it actually got cooler :) The second last DJ who played while they were inside was the first female DJ I've seen since I got over here and she played one of the best sets of the night. The music tended back out towards the mainstream / boppy ( as opposed to the hard trance / hardcore we'd had most of the night ) but her beat matching was great and the set as a whole flowed ( as opposed to Vagas who can't seem to be able to beat match for nuts - or just doesn't care :). After she finished, Vagas came on and played some hardcore which seemed to clear all but those who had long lasting stuff, lots of stuff or sheer determination and bloody mindedness. I had given up earlier and was just veging out enjoying the music... With sun rise a crew came through and tidied up the outside area before they finally moved the slabs and speakers outside under the tarp. A bunch of us were chatting against a wall when the first of the "outside" DJ's started up - straight away with Speed Racer. There was sudden movement from the walls as previously comatose ravers jumped up and sprinted to the tarped off area to dance. A few of us headed up the stairs and grooved on the balcony enjoying the direct sun-light ( mmmmm, so nice to have a *real* tan again :). Around 9 or so some of the crew came around and handed out free drinks, especially to those of us dancing in the sun. It was a great touch and was most appreciated. They seemed to be having power problems outside as sometimes the music would stop ( to the groans of the crowd ) or the main amps would cut out - I think it might have been where they were running the cables but I'm not sure. Unfortunately I had to go out to a client's site around lunch time and get their computer system running again so we left around 11. Lots of happy words and feelings as we headed home in the taxi - I'll definitely be keeping an ear out for this crew again to see if they can put on another event as good as this one. Spaceman Spliff ( grant@world.std.com ) P.S. I don't think many of these folks had ever seen a human with a brand before as I got quite a few wierd looks and I don't think they were for my cap ( the one with the weed leaf on it :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 00:41:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Review of P-Rave Hi all! As planned & advertised on ne-raves :) we had a small party /rave here last Thursday evening, from 10 p.m. to 4 a.m. I was delighted to see Vasil & his friend whose name I missed :( , Linda and Rob, and hearing Mars at the tables was a treat indeed!! Some great great great hardtrance!!! I guess Princeton students know how to party ;) They were out there dancing dancing dancing like crazy!!! We had some neat effects set up with pretty minimal equipment--a couple of lasers borrowed from my physics lab and --voila--patterns on the ceiling !! Borrow a couple (well, ok, a dozen) TV's from friends, toss up some fractals on the screen and --voila-- visuals!! Mail order pixie stix, glow wands & smart drinks and --voila-- phun :) . We had two rooms (with the same music in each room--we'll have to improve on that one next time :) ), and the main floor was pretty much packed the whole time (~100 people capacity)...They second room was great for overflow control, and it was nicer to dance there, as there were less people... As Linda said, it was probably a great introduction to the scene for these Princeton folx--they got to listen to a bit of everything, from some housey grooves to hardtrance to some hardcore, w/ O Fortuna thrown in to keep 'em interested :) . My friend did a live act w/ MIDI drums and a DAT background which came out nicely, so people also got a feel for the experimental stuff being done in our music department... We'll be doing this again sometime in May; I'll post again when we do so you guys can come!! Also, I'll post for the other non-rave musical activities going on--ska, house, alternative etc....for your auditory pleasure :) Peace!! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:33:03 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH SUBRSCRIBE ne-raves DUBRIT Herve ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 10:07:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Erica E Cryer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Erica E Cryer Subject: Re: Lover In-Reply-To: Hey Sweet Pea Soup: How are you on this Monday morning???? I'm feeling really tired, and my eyeballs are itching,otherwise I feel fab. I saw you walking to class this morning. I called your name, "Romulo" , you didn't hear me love. You were hearing the gray winds and the brisk footsteps of others. Dear, I hope your not extremely tired today!! Try and write me a message if you can. I love you Plum- see you laaatttter-eri ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 16:15:05 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Subject: TAPES FOR SALE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------HERE IS MY COMPLETE COLLECTION-------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ENGLAND: Techno: -DAVE ANGEL (Live at HYPERSPACE 6/8/93) -COLIN DALE (No 6) Brckbeat: -DJ ELLIS DEE (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ SY (Live at HYPERSPACE) -DJ SY (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ SY (Live but where???) -DJ EasyGroove (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ Easy Groove (Live at OBSESSION 1993) -Trevor Rockliffe (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ Chez Damier (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) (REESE PROJECT) -DJ Phantasy (No 9) -GROOVERIDER (No 9) -GROOVERIDER (No 6) -GROOVERIDER (No 8) -GROOVERIDER (Live at THE EDGE ) -GROOVERIDER (Live at ECLIPSE) -SLIPMATT (Ultimate in Hardcore 1993) -SLIPMATT/TOPBUZZ (Tribal GAthering) -DJ SEDUCTION (Live at Dance PLANET 1993) -Carl COX (Live At OBSESSION 1993) -RATTY (Dreamdance) -Kenny Ken (Live in LONDON Part 1 & 2) -... GERMANY: Techno: -WESTBAM (Sound of OBSESSION 1993) -Sven VAth (Live in DREAMSCAPE) -Sven VAth (Live in OMEN 1993) -DJ TANITH/THE PRODUCER (Live at UNIVERSE 1993) -MAYDAY 1993 -DJ HELL (No 7) -... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOLLAND Techno -CJ BOLLAND (Live in AMSTERDAM 1993) -DANO/Prophet/GIZMO (Studio Mix 1993) -... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SWITZERLAND Techno: -DUB (ANGEL) (Progressive/techno MIX 1994) -TERRORIST (MIX 1993) (Back to the roots) -DUB/TERRORIST (Live GENEVA part 1,2,4) -GANGSTA (After HOURS zurich 1993) -GANGSTA (Live BERN 1993) -DJ NOISE (No 1,2 1993) -T-BASS (Live ZURICH ENERGY 1993) -T-BASS (Live DREAMSCAPE 1993) -High-Speed (Dream of love) -DJ Alex P (Live ZURICH OXA 1993) -SACHA (No 29,30) -DJ JEF (Swiss Champion)(No 1) -DJ JEF (Live at Le PALAIS 1992) -DJ TEK JAM/X-NTRIX (1993) -WILLOW (Hi-BIAS) (Live BIENNE 1993) -WILLOW (Lots of tapes from him) -LAURENT (Live at ANNECY 1993) -OLIVER (Rita's TAPES No 1,2,3,4 1993) -... Underground: -DJAIMIN (Lots of tapes from him) Ambiant -WILLOW (" " " " ") -FREE SOUL (No 2) -TERRORIST (Kewl Chewns 1993) -... BrckBeat: -TERRORIST (MIX 1993) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FRANCE Techno -LAURENT GARNIER (Live at UNIVERSE UK 1993) -BENJAMIN (Live on FG 1993) -MILOCH (Live at Annecy 1993) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ITALY TEchno: -GIANNI PARRINI (Lots of tapes from him) -Roby PARRINO (Live at KU ) -... Underground -GIANNI PARRINI (Lots of tapes from him) -AMERICA Techno -JEFF MILLS/EXCESS ----------------------------------------NEW----------------------------------- ENGLAND: JOHN DIGWEED (PROGRESSIVE HOUSE) DAVE ANGEL (STUDIO MIX) ENGLAND: DJ SY (STUDIO MIX ) EASY GROOVE (Live at Helter Skelter) DJ TERRORIST (SWITZERLAND BURNING MIND-BLOWING TEKNO) I'm LOOKING FOR TAPES FROM AMERICA. -DJ FRANKIE BONES -JEFF MILLS -CARL CRAIG -LENNY DEE -other techno/brckbeat DJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just send a mail and tell me if you wanna trade or buy some tapes. I'm gonna tell you the rules when I'll get your mail... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- - DUBRIT HERVE AT DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH - --------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 10:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Pablo Martinez Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Pablo Martinez How would I go about subscribing to this. cd03@ultrix.ramapo.edu Thank You. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:05:13 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chris Beaumont Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chris Beaumont Subject: Re: Lover I hope you realize you replied (probably by accident!) to the whole list with your letter. For example,I am in California. You have to be careful when using the "R" or even sometimes the "r" key when replying to someone's message to a mailing list. Better to type out the person's e-mail address in the standard way. That prevents other people from accidentally being "cc'd" (having copies being sent to them!!) Good luck! -C. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 08:07:52 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chris Beaumont Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chris Beaumont Subject: Re: TAPES FOR SALE I'd be interested in trading (not buying) tapes.. I have years of tapes of the best dj'd to play out here in SF (and probably in the US.) I'd only trade on the condition you not rerecord and sell their work. -Chris. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:13:18 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan English Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan English Subject: Re: Boston organizers in response to the question about BigFunHouse, and what happened to them, it was the same thing that has happened to most of the promoters and people who throw parties in the Boston area; they got fed up with all the crap and the rotten aspects of doing events, so they stopped. a lot of people who were into raving at the 'beginning' of the scene here have dropped out completely. actually, most of the people have. what used to be about sharing and caring and PLUR is now more about fashion and attitude; exactly the things we were trying to escape from in the beginning. i still love raving, but usually i can't get REALLLy into it until 5AM or so, when everyone in the place is smelly and sweaty and whacked, and it doesnt matter who you are, as long as you are dancing. i think that a lot of people abandoned the scene because they couldnt find what we used to. i am of the opinion that you need to make your own vibe, gather your own set of friedns who know what's up, and have fun. you can't just hug any random starnger at a rave anymore, but you can show everyone how to have a good time. (and they'l tell two friends, and so on, and so on..) -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:18:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: Re: Lover excuse me: HUH????? WHAT????? HELLO???? someone please explain to me what this post was doing in ne-raves cause i sure dont know :P :) -jason/method one *curmudgeon* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 13:33:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: Re: Lover In-Reply-To: <01H8LT171OYS0005VR@uvmvax.uvm.edu> ya- WHATEVER -if i wanted to be entertained with a soap opera I'd turn on the television! i'm a raver not a love counselor. Keep up the vibe, jk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:58:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: Lover aah... but it makes for interesting reading for the rest of us... :).. later. <><><><> kherlihy@center.colgtae.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 14:19:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE FOR THE WEEK OF 2/7/94 UPDATE FROM DJ TRAX TECHNOLOGICAL PROMOTION--WOOD-RIDGE, NJ, USA 2/7/94 Here are some records that are currently rockin' NYC dance floors (or will be soon). Help support the underground that supports you!!! STICTLY HYPE RECORDS: "You Used To Hold Me '94"--Ralphi Rosario feat. Xaviera Gold (SH-112) Well, here we are, yet another remix of "You Used To Hold Me," but wait, this is a double 12" with 12 mixes by all the hot remixers: MAW, DJ EFX, Maurice Joshua,..... My pick, however, is DJ Hyperactive's "Chicago 303 Mix" which gets Ms. Gold involved in the retro-acid "thang." Amazing how great this song can sound to even the hardest of dancefloors. SLAM IT!!!! For lovers of the original, go with Ralphi's "Riviera" mix which works that original keyboard line to the bone. Contact: Tania 708-678-1271 FAX: 708-678-1272 TRI STAR RECORDS: "Medicine Mix"--Haruomi Hosono (WAS-5576) The "Quiet Lodge Version" ventures into deep trance territory. The haunng keyboard work by this Japanese artist fits well into any trance set. Contact: Todd Glassman 212-833-8000 FAX: 212-833-8484 HOUSE JAM RECORDS: "Got The Cure"--Thrillseekers (HJA-9428) The "Blueprint Disko Dub" uses that ever so popular groove from "Let No Man Put Asunder" that you thought was buried years ago. Well here it is and ready to be worked on all the house dancefloors. Start digging out the Salsoul originals, or for late-comers, Acapella Anonymous Volume 1. Contact: Rick or Gary 312-226-8092 FAX: 312-226-7184 ORE RECORDS (UK): "Nothing Better"--Colourblind The "Hand and Spear" club mix starts off with the female chant of "Nothing Better" and slowly layers groove upon groove until a unified tribal track is built. Then BOOM!, the keyboards kick in full force combining with a fierce bassline to keep it up for 5:38. Contact: Moneypenny 212-343-2660 FAX: 212-343-2753 SNEAK TIP RECORDS: "The Circus House"--Network 109 (STR-022) Produced by Peter "At Work" Presta, "The Circus House" borrows bits and pieces from the sample house archives and relives just a little of that Todd Terry feeling from 1988. Check out the "Presta Mix" and let me know what samples YOU find. Contact: Jerry 718-459-0334 FAX: 718-459-0724 CONTINUUM RECORDS: "Burning Like The Sun"--Red Red Groovy (13303-0) Mixed by the X-Mix clan (Armand Van Helden--"Circle Children"), this record works the current trend of tribal revelry and does it well. Pieces of the alternative-like male vocals slither in and out of the mix. Contact: Chris B 908-709-0011 FAX: 908-709-0641 FREEZE RECORDS: "The Todd Terry Unreleased Project Part 5" (TNT-09) Mr. Todd Terry delivers with another sample track EP. Todd goes back into the vaults to nail some old school house jams. Anybody remember "Don't Stop It" by DMS on Cutting Records a few years back? Well, Todd put the great organ filled "Keep on Pressing On" dub on this record and added bits and pieces of Two Without Hat's "The Breeze," calling it "Nitty Gritty." A must have for all DJs. Contact: Richie Rich 212-243-1189 FAX: 212-243-1089 NERVOUS RECORDS: "Tales From the RZ"--Beltram Presents (SO-20082) Joey Beltram serves up a tasty house styled record with a remix of Xavier Gold's "You Used To Hold Me" flying around an 130 BPM acidic typhoon. "Warriors Dance"--Deep Creed Mega-Tribal with a techno flavored keyboard hook. This one is produced by the Tribal man of the hour, Armand Van Helden which should be enough reason to buy the record. What are you waiting for? Contact: Nick 212-730-7160 FAX: 212-730-7130 STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Gobah"--The Untouchables Kenny "Dope" Gonzalez gives us a tribal track that delivers with a sample of "Jingo" (Where did he get the sample???? Could it be "Drums of Passion"-1960???) "Indonesia"--Circle Children (SR-12203) Tribal with an Indonesian(???) vocal sample. Working a 126 BPM chant-laden percussion track, this record is causing a major buzz among all DJs and DJ oriented publications "More"--The Erick Morillo EP (SR EP-3) This man has been responsible for Strictly Rhythm's resurgence in the 12" market. His list of hits goes on and on: The New Anthem, Go On Move, I Like To Move It, UNBE, House of Love........ 5 cuts are featured, one hip-hop, the rest, strong house tracks. My picks have to be "Toety" which HOT 97 (NYC) DJ Glen Friscia has been pumping since November!!!!???? This one sounds like a remake of the "Anasthasia-"ized" Muevelo Remix but with a much harder hip-hop beat. "Back In My House" yet again works Althea McQueen's "fierce" vocals with a new organ track. "Asuca"--R.A.W. (SR-12215) Once again, Erick Morillo offers up a house track perfect for any DJ. "Asuca" uses a sinewy bassline and samples from "Muevelo" to make it familiar. "(Shake Watcha) Mama Gave Y'All"--Stik-E and The Hoods (PW-104) Produced by the ever popular hip-hop sample guru, Frankie Cutlass, this one works the chant style like Funkmaster Flex's "C'mon Baby" but uses the "Shake......" chant from Miami's "Poison Clan". The sampled beat from Slick Rick's "Mona Lisa" and horns from K7's "Come Baby Come" help to make this a timeless classic. Contact: Bari 212-246-0026 FAX: 212-246-2191 Please send any questions, comments, advice, etc. to: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:29:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@UNCWIL.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@UNCWIL.BITNET Subject: Re: Lover Jeez, just an honest mistake for somebody. I am sure she doesn't want all the attention that she has gotten so far. Be nice :) Noj=ME=John ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 16:01:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: NYC Club raison du hassles Been at work since 7am, finished network proposal for today's appointment, so, I thinks it's time to compose a missive addressing the NYC curfew thang. This might be long....so Hit 'n' NOW to exit I've been in this business for over 10 years, mostly as a lighting designer/director but over the years I've managed, worked the door, done security, bartended at al. So I'm setting myself up not as an expert, but at least as someone who is familiar with the scene from many points of view. There was an article in Spy a few years ago written by a promoter name Rudolph, who has subsequently run screaming from the business. It listed 144 different pieces of paper that he had to file in order to open a club. When THEY come in to inspect your paperwork you (the club owner) must have official paper from, to name a few agencies, The fire department, Buildings department, cabaret license, state liquor authority, Department of radiological health (lasers) IRS and others. You're fined if the paperwork isn't in order. The state liquor authority is probably the nastyest of the agencies. Basically unregulated, they withhold liquor licenses for political, personal, capricious as well as legitimate reasons. Although the average rave can do without alchohol the average club can not. Private party rentals provide the 'nut' of a club's income, that is the amount needed to pay expenses. Without a license each party must have a caterer under whose license the club operates. There are very few non-alchoholic clubs. The also uses undercover 'stings' to catch club serving to underage patrons. This in and of itself is understandable, but who they target is often based on the above mentioned 'illegitimate" reasons. The SLA mandates that liquor not be served after 4:00am or on Sunday before 12pm. Also all drinks must be of the tables after 4:30. Any commercial establishent that has music of any kind is supposed to have a cabaret license. So, theoretically, If you have a Cabaret license and you don't serve after 4am or don't serve at all, then you should be left alone, right? Along came The Happy Land Fire. This was a private club that catered to a largeley Dominican clientel. They were having trouble with people opening the back door to let other in, so they chained the inside doors. An individual had a beef with his girl and firebombed the entrance. I believe about 25 people died in the insuing fire. This changed the face of clubland forever. The Mayor responded with a task force with neat jackets, comprised of members of the fire dept, building department, SLA, NYPD and others. They were instructed to shut down all illegal and dangerous club. They did so with zeal. Then came the Red Zone theory of club policing. What happened here was the rise of the Community Board mafia. Community boards are the the neiborhood association that ar are recognized by The City Now the Red Zone was located on 54th between 9th and 10th and the clientel was mostly 19 year old youth of color. The sound system was kickin' and the scene was VERY hot. Neighbors, one in particular that i remember well, would complain to the NYPD and the community board at every opportunity. Existing laws were interprative to mean that at 4:30am EVERY CLUB SHOULD BE CLOSED. This is, to my knowledge, NOT the way the laws were designed to be used. What was happening was the task force would do suprise inspections. Separately, NYPD would come to the door at about 4:00am and tell the club to shut off the music. This was coupled with legal action against club that, allthough their paperwork was in order, offended the community. Sex clubs, even when safer, were shut during the initial AIDS bru ha ha ( not to minimize or trivialize the pandemic). Now to now. Firstly every precinct, every 'relationship' with the precinct hierarchy, every club has an idiosyncratic relationship with the NYPD. I left OUTLAW at 5:30am and it was doing fine. The Living Room was hopping till the next day. Renegade hasn't been touched, to the best of my knowledge. 'after hours' clubs can be shut for too many cabs standing out front, for too many people in the street waiting to get in or for other even less 'reasonable' reasons. Often a club will have trouble for few weeks, then be left alone. However, serving liquor after hours almost alway results in a bust eventually. Now this doesn't address the issue of 'private' clubs. These are clubs that do not charge admission and technically don't sell liquor. I remember labling bottle with names, as if each bottle was brought in by a patron for their own use. The bottom line here is whatever the autorities want to do, if they don't get their way, they just use a bigger hammer. I'm sure I've left some stuff out, and I may be mistaken about some of this but I hope that this goes a long way to clear up some of the confusion surrounding this issue. BTW I'm producing some trippy visuals (amiga) next week at OUTLAW, stay tuned. -woof ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 16:13:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , David Burney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: David Burney Subject: Re: Lover In-Reply-To: <199402072104.QAA14624@umd5.umd.edu>; from "JACKSONJ@UNCWIL.BITNET" at Feb 7, 94 3:29 pm Hey, raverz need love too :) Especially bald ones (:-) goldenboy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:15:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM-taking Taking HOM info for raves starting this weekend.....[don't forget, it's not just for people that need rides.....] Mel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:36:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Your removal from the NE-RAVES list In-Reply-To: <199402061621.LAA02108@umd5.umd.edu> dan i recieved a unsubscribe so can us re subscribe me i think that it is actually working now :) hooray!!! jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:44:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: RED In-Reply-To: Neith Preston "Re: RED" (Feb 4, 1:40am) hello there: I miss boston so much, and i hope red will be good , cause i heard all the rumors, but sometimes when the vibe is good, that is because of the people and music, not because of the laser or crazy effects, i found big raves to be amazing but intimate microraves are fun too. are u going to simmons college, cause i know someone that goes there, in fact it is pretty close to my house. i love to go to a rave to meet the ne ravers from boston , because i only meet ne-ravers from this area. most raver i meet has no attitude and accept me of what i am , and that is why i like been a raver, i dont like cluby types . so what does neith mean? i got my name cause people think i am too energetic like a jigsaw ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^=== and also i am enigmatic, at least thats what people say, i got the name from my best friend his name is justin and he use to be jigsaw, but he died three years ago because of cancer, i kept the name to remeber him by. i like deep house, and i djed last night in our college radio station,from 2:30 till 5 in the morning, i had so much fun , if u care i would send u a tape of my show, no mixing though, some bastard stole the mixer from the station. i would like to hear from u soon, may be we can do something in boston, do u hang out on newbury st or harvard square? love and chili dogs jisaw/jujubee ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:47:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: hello...finally In-Reply-To: <199402061632.LAA02505@umd5.umd.edu> well after massive amounts of problems (sorry dan) I AM FINALLY back on ne-raves :) I really have missed you all and all the great conversations...so i am t writio to say that i am really happy to be back on :) Well... glad to be back on and i hope to see you all really soon... also if anyone would be interested in recieving the NEXT issue of ZooM it will be out march 21 (the first day of spring). Also if anyone would be interested in writing or placing an ad just drop me a line before feb. the 25th :) Peace and love and unity and respect and equality, Jennifer Smeddy (aka Jenn-bug) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:12:28 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: TAPES FOR SALE If there not too expensive, i'm willing to buy a couple tapes.... --dan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:14:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: return to nebula pre-party In-Reply-To: mistress loretta "return to nebula pre-party" (Feb 7, 12:16am) On Feb 7, 12:16am, mistress loretta wrote: > Subject: return to nebula pre-party > greetings, > There will be a pre-party for return-to-nebula at my house (right near > ALbany, NY) and it should be alot of fun. We just finished thhe work that > we were doing on the house so it is all set, and "ret 2 go!" so all who are > interrested drop me a line, and I will get things going. Peace out! > > xx mistress loretta > > ps: could everyone who came to the roller-rave pre-party drop me a line as > I lost all of your addresses. and I just got my pictures back, you all > look FAB-UL-OUS!:) l8r hey luke this is jigsaw! i hope u still recognize me, i would love to go to the return to nebula party, i need more info on that too, my addresse i s to: julian wang c/o RPI school of architecture troy new york 12180 i think u took a picture of me and buffy please say hi to buffy and collen. take care ya jigsaw ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 18:17:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: hello...finally In-Reply-To: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" "hello...finally" (Feb 7, 5:47pm) On Feb 7, 5:47pm, "Jennifer J. Smeddy" wrote: > Subject: hello...finally > well after massive amounts of problems (sorry dan) I AM FINALLY back on > ne-raves :) I really have missed you all and all the great > conversations...so i am t writio to say that i am really > happy to be back on :) Well... > > glad to be back on and i hope to see you all really soon... > > also if anyone would be interested in recieving the NEXT issue of ZooM it > will be out march 21 (the first day of spring). Also if anyone would be > interested in writing or placing an ad just drop me a line before feb. > the 25th :) > > Peace and love and unity and respect and equality, > > Jennifer Smeddy > (aka Jenn-bug) hi jenny! this is jujubee, i haven't talk to u for a long time, are u still on vrave? i would like to have a zoom, all i want to do is zoom zoom zoom, ha ha hope to hear from u soon jiggypooh ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 19:39:06 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: Lover In-Reply-To: <199402071852.NAA28977@umd5.umd.edu> damn.. what an uptight list. the "complaint" mail floods our boxes even more.. chill out. at least these people are in love! smile... geeezz peace >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 19:42:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , William Lewis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: William Lewis can you please take me off this mailing list ? Thanks; I am going offline for a while. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 6 Feb 1994 08:37:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: MAKE MONEY FAST In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 03 Feb 1994 14:53:31 -0500 (EST) Hey mister jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu: Question: Isn't "You used to hold me" by Richie Rich not someone else? You mentioned someone else in light of the Beltram remake....... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:50:22 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Sobel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Sobel Subject: Information... Hello.. My name is Dave Sobel, and I'm the dance DJ here at WCWM at the College of William and Mary... I was hoping you could send some information regarding raves/music/et.al. that I could pass on to my listeners (and use for myself!).... I'm primarily interested in the DC/VA/MD corridor, since that's what's accessable, but anything for the whole coast is fine.... I picked up your address on the SERAVES file, and so I thought I'd mail you up there... Anything you can send would be much appreciated... ThanX Dave Sobel dpsobe@mail.wm.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 21:09:23 -0500 Reply-To: Barry Wood Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Barry Wood Subject: SYNERGY rave Hey - anyone know if the Synergy rave in NYC (on aircraft carrier!) is still on for this Saturday 2/12? I heard a rumor it might be moved or cancelled. Thanx in advance for help ... Barry W. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 21:35:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , STU6559@RIC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: STU6559@RIC.EDU Subject: request Please add me to the list, Thanks! Dave Berthaiume iaume stu6559.ric.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 15:32:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: Lover what the hell was that? did the sender have the wrong adress, or did I miss something. If that was intended for personal communications, please use that persons private address. I'm sorry to be so bitter, but I get enough junk mail as it is. :( -Dave ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 23:58:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JEN KANE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JEN KANE Subject: address change hey cybertribe! sorry for the inconvenience, but my account has switched hands for the time being. please write me at: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM NOT at ehdv19c@prodigy.com. thanks alot. peaz out...peppermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 00:03:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Re: Lover >what the hell was that? > I'm sorry to be so bitter, but I get enough junk mail as it is. :( >-Dave again...chillout! jeez...i agree with taylor *totally* on this one...plur my ass. u ppl need to take a sec..realise what happened and move on...like making this person feel even *more* embarrassed and sheepish is gonna do anything for *you* personally? or do u just like to vent your spleen on some anonymous individual? btw, this flame isnt directed at dave in particular...he was just the most recent example...its to all of you two faced or weekend "ravers" out there who say your down with the vibe but arent. its this kind of thinking (not the individual, but the thought) that is hurting the scene. rethink it. peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.091 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 00:26:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , nate goldbaum Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: nate goldbaum Subject: Re: Lover In-Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" "Re: Lover" (Feb 8, 12:05am) I think those that wrote in to flame erica are (like me) jealous that they don't get this kind of email in real life ;) peace ps any girl who wants to send me romantic email is encouraged to do so ;) -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 02:09:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Lover this letter was the sweetest... im jealous ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 11:23:04 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Steve Elliott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Steve Elliott Subject: Re: TAPES FOR SALE Just a bit of warning about UK breakbeat tapes, although I'm sure that this will not be the case with the tapes being sold here, but, and it's a big but, most tapes sold in the UK are of bad quality, both in terms of the music and the tapes themselves - i.e they're bootlegs not even by the DJ that is on the label My advice is to steer clear of breakbeat tapes altogether as when even the real ones are recorded at events, the mixing is crap. In my opinion if you want to buy a mix tape, get them through the DMC/MixMag, or look out for the "Journey's By A DJ" series which are also available on a CD - volume 4 is just about to be released in the UK. Hope this avoids any heartache! Respect Steve ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 7 Feb 1994 12:55:42 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Badges... Is there ny further words on the badges? Or did I miss something in the last few weeks? Just asking, Apocalypse ************************************************************************** * Joseph M. Harre * "God is like a big * HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU * * Canisius College * shiny man" * ANTIJOEY@CRIS.COM * * Buffalo, NY * Rel. Studies Professor * (this space for rent)* ************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 06:32:13 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Lover Hey, add me to that "Romantic List Sever". :-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:57:59 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MOLARI@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Alexandre -. Molari" Subject: Re: TAPES FOR SALE what's that?!?!?!? I have SEVERAL tapes from Uk and there are OK! bad quality???! ahhahahha They are DAT recorded mainly (events). All Fantazia, Obsession, The Edge Helter Skelter (...) events tapes are VERY GOOD recorded!! psyched ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 11:33:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Alan and Scotto :( Let's start out by saying that I am VERY biased. I have known and loved Scotto for many years. I hired him as a lighting tech when he first came to NYC. I'm not saying he can do no wrong, in fact, as a promoter, he is regularly put in no win situations by club owners, the police and other 'official' agencies, as well as other individuals. However, for me, Scotto has always tried to do the right thing. I only know Alan Sanctuary from his work with Scotto. He seemed ok, and has always been cool to me. It is with sadness that I must flame him now. Alan had to be escorted out of OUTLAW on saturday by security for getting physically abusive of Scotto for the second time in one night. As of my conversation with Scotto on Monday, he is no longer welcome at our events. Now this may change and they may make up in the future, but that's the scoop. I am told that Alan has flamed Scotto on his current voicemail. I have been in the club business for over 10 years. It has always been an environment ripe for emotionally 'rich' scenes. I am saddened that my family has to go through something like this. I speak for Scotto and myself when saying that our intention is to provide people with a good party, wherever and whenever we can. We also are committed to treating DJs and other creative and administrative people fairly and with respect. It was this last issue that seemed to be the cause of this situation, specifically that Scotto felt that Alan was not treating the DJs in a manner consistent with our commitments. In another post I will be touting the party this Saturday, this is not the place. I still have a lot of respect for Alan, he seems to be a good 'people person'. I am asking that those of you who feel that way consider our parties in spite of the current interpersonal, shall we say, difficulty. We would hate to lose you over this. This is not based on a commercial concern on my part, but rather that it is the ravers that make the party. The best DJs and the hottest light show means nothing without the cool rave tribe to experience it. Feel free to post publically or to email me to flame back, lend your support, say that this is inappropriate, vent feelings, or any response you may have. " If I knew now what I knew then ..." Virtually, with sadness :( -woof ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 11:03:56 -0600 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sheri Hendrickson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sheri Hendrickson Subject: Re: Lover Yes, it is that cheezy romantic holiday. If you want to be advertise as a Cassonova on print, then I have a proposition for you! I don't know if you know me. (It seems like people from nowhere that I don't not know knows me.) anyways, I have a zine, Expositor. Our 4th issue is coming out on Feb. 19 at Earthquake in chi-town. We have the love/hate issue for its theme. We need more people to partcipate in the "love ads" I'll I need is your name, sign, turn-ons, turn-offs, etc. Do it! HKK ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 13:43:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: TAPES FOR SALE In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 8 Feb 1994 11:23:04 GMT from I just wanted to say that the four UK breakbeat mixes that I've hooked up with are of good sound quality, save half of the first side of one of them, but that probably occured during dubbing, not recording. Also, all four DJs, Hype, Bukem, Randall, and Grooverider are good DJs, with the only real mistakes being a couple skipped records on the Grooverider tape. I'd say that these tapes are of as good a quality as others that I've received from, and of, other DJs. Matt Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 13:59:50 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( Cybertribe: While talking to my friend on the phone last night, I was informed of the latest NYC club/rave gossip. NYC party promoter Alan Sanctuary had punched out NASA's Scotto at Saturday's Outlaw Party in Manhatten and the Primal posse wouldn't be working with NASA anymore. I also was told that there was a long message on Alan's voicemail line about the incident. After hearing some other gossip of how Scotto was just out to make money (examples cited: charging $10 instead of the advertised $8 at the door this past weekend at Outlaw, last year's New Year's Eve party scandal, the NASA "See the [$$$] Light" tour, and "BOOM!2" to be held at the Meadowlands arena), I decided to poke around myself and see what I could come up with. I started by calling Alan Sanctuary's voicemail line and listening to a 5 minute long message. Alan starts off by saying that he has an important story to tell about integrity. I will paraphrase the story a little for you. He says the reason he does parties is because he likes to have a good time and he likes to see others have a good time. When he started off, he was doing small parties and only charging $3 to get in. He understands that if you want a "phat" superstar DJ lineup and exotic lighting, you can't charge $3. But he feels that money should not be the prime objective in throwing parties, and he knows that some people invest big money into these events (hoping to make big money in return). The club/rave scene has always been very political and competitive, and Alan and Scotto have been serious rivals for a long time when Alan was involved in doing parties at the Limelight on Friday nights and Scotto was doing NASA parties at the Shelter last year. Eventually, the Shelter closed and Alan gave up on Limelight because he didn't like the way ravers were being treated at the club. Alan's message says that he decided to try to bury the hachet with Scotto and together they would try to do parties together. Living Room, on Friday's in Manhatten, was supposed to be put on by all the promoters in the city, but didn't work out that way. Alan admitted that originally he was planning to bash Scotto on his voicemail message, but "that would have been compromising my integrity," he states. He doesn't like where Scotto is coming from, and adds "Scotto has done some really shady shit." The example that he cites dealt with this past Saturday's Outlaw party. When the party moved from the original space to "Light, Wisdom and Sound," Alan told Scotto to work out the deal with the club, but Scotto failed to mention to the club that the people on the reduced list should be charged $8 instead of $10. So, those who had called the voicemail lines and left their names and numbers with the promise of $8 reduced admission were now finding out at the door that they would have to shell out an extra $2. "Scotto thought he'd be making a lot more money by this move," Alan says, "but he ended up only getting 50 cents more off each person." "Most of the kids who come to these parties are from out of town, they spend money on getting into the city, tolls, gas, trains, food, etc. Why try to take $2 more from them? I think this is plain stupidity," Alan says with disgust. "Why would someone who claims to care about the scene pull something like this?" Alan wonders. He says to support whoever you want, but to learn what people are about. "You know bullshit when you see it. Scotto is all about money," Alan adds. Alan's voicemail line lists parties even when they are on the same nights as things that he's involved with, "...because," he continues, "it is a raveline about the scene. Support the scene and do positive things. Doing white powder drugs and passing out on the floor of a warehouse is not positive. Dancing is positive. Learning about the music and the people who make it is positive." It appears that Alan Sanctuary has gone to bat for the rave community, fighting ever inflating club/rave prices. Will news of this draw protests from other party goers as well? Many NE-Ravers had had bad experiences last year upon trying to get into NASA before midnight when the admission price rose from $10 to $15. They had arrived very early, but had been forced to stand on a line that didn't seem to move until after midnight had passed. When they confronted security about this, they found it to be true. Up til this point it appears ravers have not had too much of a problem about the high price of their parties with many of the large scale events in the past several months turning out over a thousand ravers. Only time will tell where this will lead. Until then, NASA will continue to do Living Room and what was once "Outlaw" (soon to be renamed) by themselves. I'm your reporter, marshal Hamilton (mars) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 14:47:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Lover In-Reply-To: <199402080755.CAA05825@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, wrote: > this letter was the sweetest... > > im jealous ;) > I really wish i was on the list when this letter came by...maybe someone coudl explain this letter to me :) hehe. Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 14:53:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Badges... In-Reply-To: <199402081240.HAA17920@umd5.umd.edu> so what is happening with the badges?? Sorry that i have been slightly out of touch with all of this for a little Thanks, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 15:16:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.BITNET Subject: Re: Lover heehee...when this first came out i was sorta harsh on the people who were involved in it...i didnt mean any harm, i was just being sarcastically grumpy :) just watch who you send your messages, kidz :) -jason/m1 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:20:37 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <08FEB94.17016339.0177.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N HI FOLKS, taylor...your package from instinct arrived last week. i didn't like absolutely everything but at $2 us a single i didn't care. axel...just got your message today. sorry, didn't see your dad. e-mail me with your address and i'll send you a mona demo free. everybody.... here's a rave for ya! Cognition Audiworks and Dystonia present Rhythmic Dissonance Saturday March 5th, 10pm til? 1588 Granville st. Downtown Halifax Nova Scotia tickets $5 in advance $6 at door live acts include...Automata, Protozoa, Bass Response, Sub-Level and Fork Boy oh, and Neural Firing Squad too. DJs...Mastermind, Blue, Rinse, lucidril, Kali, LAShTAL and me, Nonsense from Fredericton. Info lines NS 902/423/1508 NB 506/458/8735 it's a pre-release party for the rhythmic dissonance compilation of eastern canadian techno talent. hope some of you will come. ciao for now, dj nonsense ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:08:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: sampler In-Reply-To: <9402082019.AA12532@media.mit.edu>; from "LEDERJASO%URVAX.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu" at Feb 8, 94 3:16 pm Did you send out the sampler yet? didja didja didja? :) -John ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:23:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Drop this thread please (was Re: Lover) On some day this week, somebody wrote: >>what the hell was that? > >> I'm sorry to be so bitter, but I get enough junk mail as it is. :( >>-Dave >btw, this flame isnt directed at dave in particular...he was just the most >recent example...its to all of you two faced or weekend "ravers" out there >who say your down with the vibe but arent. its this kind of thinking (not the >individual, but the thought) that is hurting the scene. I think everyone is taking this thing just a _little_ too seriously. The posted lover thing was a bad mistake. fine. The irritated people were a little anal. fine. All that sort of shit happened. Fine, but let's not get into 'hurting the scene' and huge flamewars to come, people. The original post was just a mistake, no need (for either side) to blow things out of proportion. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:22:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: spritual movement since i have not been on for like a month and a half i have missed several reviews...if anyone has written any reviews for spritual movement or any other events in the last month it would be greatly apprieciated. Thanks, jenn-bug Jennifer Smeddy smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:30:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , NIGIUSTO@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Providence Hey! Does anyone know what ravers do on a weekly basis in Providence, R.I.? Any help would be gladly accepted. much thanx, Nicole ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 16:54:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 8 Feb 1994 13:59:50 EST > Alan starts off by saying that he has an important story to tell about > integrity. I will paraphrase the story a little for you. He says the reason > he does parties is because he likes to have a good time and he likes to see > others have a good time. When he started off, he was doing small parties and > only charging $3 to get in. He understands that if you want a "phat" > superstar DJ lineup and exotic lighting, you can't charge $3. But he feels > that money should not be the prime objective in throwing parties, and he > knows that some people invest big money into these events (hoping to make > big money in return). This sounds very strange coming from the man who's thrown so many $15 parties that seem to have little concern for ravers other than to see if he can sell them $2 bottles of water... Phil Z ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 14:05:36 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( Dear reporter; am i missing something here? can't all nyc ravers get together and get their own space? we've got people with computers, music, dj's, visuals, etc. what about a cheap loft, FORGET the money piece. 10 bucks all nite long. check your clothes at the door, put on your bundling suit and RAVE.... just a thought! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 17:11:53 -0500 Reply-To: Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: <199402081717.MAA18285@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: edited > I only know Alan Sanctuary from his work with Scotto. He seemed ok, and > has always been cool to me. It is with sadness that I must flame him now. > Alan had to be escorted out of OUTLAW on saturday by security for getting > physically abusive of Scotto for the second time in one night. As of my > conversation with Scotto on Monday, he is no longer welcome at our events. > Now this may change and they may make up in the future, but that's the > scoop. I am told that Alan has flamed Scotto on his current voicemail. I too have worked with Scotto & Alan and find that both persons have done great work and are generally good with the ravers and do what they do because they love to see it done right... And generally they do do it right... HOWEVER, when it comes to promoter to promoter relations in the NYC it is the city where the big fish smim and when it comes to competition the ethic often is act out your feeling for your peer any way you see fit and often the worst feelings erupt... Alan's way of acting out his feeling physically has been a regular pattern as I can see it... There was an incident with Richard the door person (ding dong school) over his ex-mate Maho which caused the Maho Birthday Party at the Bank to be a not so joyous occasion... And I remember when my distributors addressed the issue of all my flyers for Odyssey (which was at the Bank) disappearing minutes after they were placed in Paricia Field's. They claimed That during the short interm between the time they were placed and they disappeared that Alan came into the store + dissed my party and the suspicion was that he removed the flyers. Since I've worked with Alan I couldn't believe it and while at Limelight I questioned it him about it. I expected anything from straight out denial to perhaps justification on the basis of territory but what I got instead was assaulted being pushed alllthe way to the back room where it could not be watched and wher he shoved me repeatedly stating that if I ever repeated such suspicions to anyone he would make sure that I would get it good. This disturbed me deeply but I let bygones be bygones and for the most part I admire Alllan for his energy and charisma ... Some of his events have been the best I had attended untill that moment .especially Uni-Vibe 1... but I give props to Global Groove, and the Primal parties that happened outside of Limelight... Scotto has his own way of dealing with his competition which seems less antagonistic than Alan's yet has the same effect of excluding the possibility of a good working relationship... As far as his relationship with Alan while I was a NASa promoter at the third and fourth months of the events he viewed Primal as his prime competition and pitted the distribution possees against each other- he would let Alan do a reduced list which was in itself a privledge but he denied Alan payment that was suppossedly promised or at least assumed with the request of a guest list by a top promoter in NYC... over and over I saw Scotto stress the relationship in his own ways and drive Alan to his darker side....when I heard that Scotto and Alan were working together I was very pleased to see this these quality producers leave the egos at the entrance and do what was right for their constituency and I regret that what I suspect would happen did because it means a new round of promoter war in an otherwize peacefull scene where the enemies should only be those who disable us from doing it in the city and in a scene that could if we kept our cool win over those enemies. Scotto and Alan have my respect as I have done NYC events myself and must state for the record that it is the hardest job one could ever love and sometimes hate.. The amount of politics and financial negotiation not to mention the paperwork phone calls and ego negotiation one must do just do get the event to happen not to mention break even... is so extreme one can hardly sleep or eat or breath anything else... hard head are created by the extreme dedication promoters have and the prospect of collaborating with other producers and sharing all the risks and blame and taking responsibility for the other promoters actions is a near impossible situation. It is easy to have hard feelings for others whom you feel make mistakes which reflect on the whole scene, and ruin it for others... really they are just mistakes Carlos Soul Slinger once assaulted me at his Magic party... he felt that somehow by still working for BUG that I was dissing him... at the time I had no reason not to trust Richard Simon and the people who left the BUG project (or got fired some say) did not invite me to leave with them to their new project only told me I should quit BUG which of course would be to their benefit ... another promoter without work is less competition and less pay they have put out. Nonetheless violence in the scene seems to occur between promoters more than any other incidents that I can recall not to mention the very prevailant vrbal threats which are too numerous to list here.. Boo Hoo Its much too bad for everyone. your faithful boy reporting Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 18:12:34 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Does anyone out there...(\= =/) Hey netters! Sorry for the cross-postings , but I'm desperatley searching for anybody who is interested in writing an article for the 4th issue of my zine "The Skreem". It doesn't have to be long, it can be on raves, electronic music and teechno in general, PLUR, vibes, your scene, your viewsm, whatever! I just need some articles to give my zine some substance. (I've got pictures courtesy of Johnny L.! =) Anyway, If your interested about writing anything, drop me an e-mail or just send me your article or musing. I really need the help! Thanks so much!!!!! Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 18:16:30 -0600 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sheri Hendrickson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sheri Hendrickson Subject: Re: Lover Jason, That's okay. Sarcasism is the thing my zine thrives on. I didn't realize that when I forwarded my message, that it went to entire NE-Discussion net. I thought I was forwarding it to somebody's private mail. It's funny. I've gotten a few responses and they're serious! I was doing this love ad as a joke in my zine. Sincerely, HKK ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:32:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: nova mute In-Reply-To: <199402090021.TAA11671@umd5.umd.edu> would anyone happen to have nova mute's number in nyc by chance?? I really need to get a hold of them but I seem to have misplaced (yes I lose it) it :) Thanks all, Jenn-bug Jennifer Smeddy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:33:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: still having problems... Ok the computer lab here is still causing me massive problems...sorry to bother anyone that this does not concern..but I have been trying to send mail to various posts on the list but have been unable to due to the fact that anything with ".com" in the address is being read as not being a site here :( So here are a couple of people that i have been trying to get a hold of to no avail: mistress lorreta dj entox If anyone would have a suggestion as to what i should do please write me.. (even though i might not be able to write you back) smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu sorry to bother everyone but I do not know what to do... Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:31:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jason Frantz Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Frantz Subject: Allentown Can somebody tell me about how far allentown is from D.C. Plus how do u get there? Finally, what day is the rave on? ThanX & L8R G8R! -=Avery=- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 19:39:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: <199402082141.QAA20497@umd5.umd.edu> Okay, who was behind UniVibe2, possibly the biggest rip off of a rave in existence? Alan Sanctuary, right? I think that speaks volumes. $25 for a rave that about half the size and about a tenth of the fun of those $15 Catastrophic parties last year. I know prices just keep going up, but even Resolution was only $20 and it was SOOOOOOOO much better than UniVibe2. So if Alan Sanctuary was behind setting the price for UniVibe2, I think we can write him off as a Class A wank. --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "Just that gangsta glare..." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 22:25:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== .... And suddenly the calendar is looking pretty chunky. Still looking for info on Red, though, promising to be The Next Big Net-Rave Gathering. In the meantime, we have ne-raver Geoff-E's event, Timewarp II, on Friday. I encourage everyone to turn out for that one. Have a funky weekend! -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@soda.berkeley.edu and any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so they can both share it with their respective list domains (Technopolis and DCRaves). VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 02/11/94 - BUZZ * (Adam X, Dave Tr)- Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 02/11/94 - TIME WARP II @ - Allentown, PA - (215) 433 - 0503 02/12/94 - EROS - Richmond, VA - (804) 649 - 4952 02/12/94 - SYNERGY (rescheduled) - New York City, NY - (212) 631 - 3614 02/19/94 - SPICE - New York State - (718) 714 - 5232 02/19/94 - RETURN TO NEBULA - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 431 - 6718 03/04/94 - EXPANSION - Long Island, NY - (516) 476 - 2520 03/05/94 - RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE - Nova Scotia, CA - (902) 423 - 1508 03/05/94 - THE FANTASY PROJECT - Poughkeepsie, NY - (914) 463 - 9350 03/12/94 - SPUTNIK 4 - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 03/12/94 - ULTRAVIOLET - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/23/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 11 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * BUZZ! info for Friday February 11 1994: ADAM X, D. Trance, Who, Marc Allen, L. Degeyndt downstairs SERVE djs: Mandrill, Marc Allen, Kevin Saunderson _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 11 ALLENTOWN, PA (215) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II @ $12 DJs: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London-Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-Raves) *geoffE(NE-Raves/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA-NYC) *Remic(Vagabond-Philly) Mark M(Stonewall/6 turntable display!!!) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill Out *Will be doing a 2-hour-set* 10p.m. - 6 a.m. Directions: Take the Pa. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument. At the monument hang a left and go through three lights. 10 feet before the fourth light you will see a God Is Love sign in lights. Hang the next left and it's in the warehouses. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 RICHMOND, VA (804) 649 - 4952 EROS A Unique evening of music, pure love, lust, and debauchery... EROS see you on the dancefloor, $8 emmencing @ 22:00 hours on the EvE of Saturday February 12th The Metro 727 West Broad, Richmond, Va. on the corner of Laurel & Broad At the controls upstairs - DJ Sun (Ultraworld) - Fernandez (NYC) - Boggle (Insomnia) Live performance by "NEVER" Downstaris... - Adrenaline (Pulse/N-Sect) - Echo (Somatron/Probe) eros...is presented by BRANDe productions. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 NEW YORK CITY, NY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY (rescheduled) S Y N E R G Y - Combined Force United Action Saturday, January 22, 1994 New York Harbor - INTREPID AIRCRAFT CARRIER Your Navigators: Frankie Bones Adam X Osheen James Christian Scott Henry Jason Jinx Rio Dave Trance The USS Intrepid, once a warship that delivered destructive forces, now serves as a vehicle of transformation for the voyagers for the third millennium. Our mission to bring about peace and equality will dismantle the machines of violence and recycle the technology for the benefit of the planet and all living here. Love and Unity in '94. Trance Now! Boarding Begins at 10:00 p.m. ambient dj's Jared (Instinct) L.G. Space Ace Dietrich (P909) Psychocyberradiant Lighting By: SCOTTO 10 Watt Lazer Computerized Visuals by: MELON DEZIGNS Boarding fee $17 advance $20 at door Transportation &Info Lines Alan Sanctuary (Primal Posse) - NYC 212.696.8938 Fred Strong - NYC 212.631.1065 Lesslie - Boston 617.739.5160 Mental Unity Tribe - SI 718.390.7498 T.H.C. Prod. - Philly 215.923.4339 Balu - Prov. 401.454.6028 United Tekno - Conn. 203.646.6381 Eric - DC 202.466.1692 Deanna - DC 202.452.7639 Phunky Alien - Cleveland 216.238.1451 Drop Bass - Chicago 414.777.3998 DNA - Montreal 514.854.6446 Atomic - Conn. 203.454.6643 Mars - NJ 908.724.9711 Tickets Purchased Starting January 3rd 1994 Vinylmania - NYC 212.924.3309 Groove - Brooklyn 718.714.5232 Planet X - NJ 908.249.0304 611 Records - Philly 215.413.9100 Boston Beat - Boston 1108 Boylston St. Luna Sea - Prov. 401.272.5862 Music Now - DC 202.638.3272 Modern Music - Balt. 410.523.1882 Disco-O-Rama - NYC 212.206.8414 Liquid Sky - NYC 241 Lafayette St. Inside the Hanger Deck Intrepid Aircraft Carrier S.Q. West 46th St. & 12th Ave. New York, New York MAIN INFO NUMBER: 212.631.3614 [NOTE: Since this was rescheduled from a previous date, I don't know how much of the DJ lineup is the same. Corrections are welcome. -i.] [FURTHER NOTE: There has been much talk of this event being moved and maybe cancelled. Be sure to investigate it.] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 19 NEW YORK STATE (718) 714 - 5232 SPICE -> Cannabis Action Network presents the first ever hardcore underground event for the re-legalization of marajuana... SPICE - February 19, 1994...with your herbal audio pilots DX-13 (industrial strength) TERA (back to basics) SOUL SLINGER (liquid sky) DENARD (digitek) HEATHER HEART (under one sky) JIMMY CRASH (direct drive) ADAM X (groove records) DAVE TRANCE (caffeine/essence) INSTINE (mental unity) $13/non-member $10/member Tickets on sale Feb. 12th @ Groove Records (Brooklyn) 718-714-5232, Planet X (NJ) 908-249-0304, Liquid Sky (Manhattan) 212-343-0532 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 19 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 431 - 6718 RETURN TO NEBULA Up North Productions in association with Fusion presents RETURN TO NEBULA *celebrating two years of the upstate scene* February 19, 1994 DJ'S: Tiga (Montreal) Luc Raymond (Montreal) Mr Kleen (Fusion) Jason Jinx (NASA) 333 (England (New)) Tim Ryan (Boston) Dave Trance (LI/Caffeine) Guy DMC (DMC NY/UK) Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Scott Richmond (Fusion) Heather Heart (U.O.S.) Troposphere (NYC) Sprout (Fusion/Polaris) Ryde (New Jersey) Lights: ACME Two Separate Dance Floors $15 at door 10 pm until..... Location: the original Nebula space Poughkeepsie, NY Albany- Big Dipper (518) 465-6381 LI- Dave C (516) 891-2233 NYC- Satellite (212) 465-3299 Up North- (914) 256-0445 ACME- (914) 463-9350 Conn- United Techno (203) 646-6381 Montreal- DNA (514) 854-6446 Boston- Primary (617) 541-4258 Portland- KC (207) 773-6979 Philly- 611 (215) 413-9100 from points N + S take I-87 to exit 18 at light make right onto rt299 follow to end. Make right onto rt9W follow approx 1 mile to mid hudson bridge cross bridge go straight on church st to 9th light turn right onto grand ave go thru 2 lights-JCC on left. From points E + W take I-84 to exit 13 to rt9 North about 11 miles to Poughkeepsie exit left onto church st follow directions above tickets available at subtopia records (212) 431-6718 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 4 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 476 - 2520 EXPANSION -> Friday March 4, 1994...EXPANSION...expanding the Long Island Underground Presented by the Island Vibe Network...with DJ's Micro, James Christian, Joeski, plus other SURPRISE (and I mean SURPRISE) DJ's...call the Island Vibe Line 516-476-2520 for more info. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 NOVA SCOTIA, CA (902) 423 - 1508 RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE Cognition Audiworks and Dystonia present Rhythmic Dissonance Saturday March 5th, 10pm til? 1588 Granville st. Downtown Halifax Nova Scotia tickets $5 in advance $6 at door live acts include...Automata, Protozoa, Bass Response, Sub-Level and Fork Boy oh, and Neural Firing Squad too. DJs...Mastermind, Blue, Rinse, lucidril, Kali, LAShTAL and Nonsense Info lines NS 902/423/1508 NB 506/458/8735 it's a pre-release party for the rhythmic dissonance compilation of eastern canadian techno talent. hope some of you will come. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (914) 463 - 9350 THE FANTASY PROJECT ACME Laboratories presents THE FANTASY PROJECT a benefit for the Woodstock Animal Rights Movement DJs: Doc Martin (SF Wicked crew) John Williams (SF Wicked crew) Micro & Lewis (four turntables) Osheen (RI) Adam X (Groove Records) Frankie Bones (Groove Records) Troposphere (DMC Records, NY) Happy (Boston) 10 pm - 10 am $18 warehouse location directly across from Marist College Poughkeepsie, NY _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK 4 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com ULTRAVIOLET Baltimore 03.12.1994 Ultraviolet Special Envoys 3 3 3 & M Gee of Primary Productions meeting together with Entity and Sun to align the planetary forces. additional pathways provided by: Who Scott Henry Debo Osheen Greg Seargent Advance Flight Ticket: $12 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Current info-> Boston: 617-541-4258 NYC: 212-631-4290 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME On April 9, 1994, Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Energizer, Sandman, Plasma and Apple present: PLEASUREDOME94. Live PA's Baby Ford 1.8.7. DJ's Colin Faver Dave Angel Keoki Dmitry Jason Jinx King Britt James Christian On-e Gerret Frerrich Who Sun Mr Kleen Lee Speed Demon Greg Sargent Odyssy Kieth Kennebeck Karl Matthews Sketti Bobble LG Double 07 Deitrich Robby Dyno Acid Trevor Lamont Reese Tiff This event will take place in three areas under one massive roof at a venue that is completely new, 100% legal and 100% pleasure. If anybody is interested in vending, promoting, running bus trips or would like their info line on the flyer, please call 410.347.1460. But hurry, flyers are going to print next week. (A DC line is upcomming.) Comments and suggestions can also be left at: PLASMA1000@aol.com. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "Just that gangsta glare..." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 22:26:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: Does anyone out there...(\= =/) In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 08 Feb 94 18:12:34 -0500. <9402082328.AA29187@MIT.EDU> > Hey netters! > Sorry for the cross-postings , but I'm desperatley searching for > anybody who is interested in writing an article for the 4th issue of my zine > "The Skreem". It doesn't have to be long, it can be on raves, electronic > music and teechno in general, PLUR, vibes, your scene, your viewsm, whatever! > I just need some articles to give my zine some substance. (I've got pictures > courtesy of Johnny L.! =) Anyway, If your interested about writing anything, > drop me an e-mail or just send me your article or musing. I really need the > help! Thanks so much!!!!! > Peace, > DJ Entox Yeah...I'd like to write some articles...when do you need them by? julian ------ casper ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:08:26 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: plasma1000@AOL.COM Subject: Synergy NYC To all interested ravers: We have information from a reliable source that the Synergy rave scheduled for Saturday Feb. 12 (rescheduled from January 22) has been moved to another location. The event will be held in Manhattan, near the aircraft carrier. Call 212.631.3614 this Friday to find out the exact location. The place is a five level building that promisses to thrill. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 23:36:41 18000 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Nosho Sannyas Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Nosho Sannyas Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... In-Reply-To: <199402072153.QAA20506@umd5.umd.edu>; from "David A. Wolfe" at Feb 7, 94 4:01 pm yea so? read your sanctuary flambe'.....yea so? hes a dick...what else is new! later alligator....crunch....;> -- BOOM SHIVA.....BOOM BOOM! ........BOOM...! ....BABA MAHA BOOM BOOM! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 00:07:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: Re: Allentown Hey, Allentown is about 3 to 4 hours from D.C. Take I-95 North to 476 to the PA Turnpike(NORTH). Get off at the Allentown/Lehigh Valley Exit. Take Rt. 22 East and follow to the 7th St. South Exit. Hang a left at the monument. Go through 3 lights and 10 feet before the fourth light hang a left and another left and we are the last warehouse on the right side. Hope to see you there!!! geoffE and Bear(Ursol) The Freight Yard Allentown, Pa, EARTH ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 01:51:14 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Delta II! That's right folks, Delta has come back to groove us once again. :) Delta II DJs: Josh Wink Nigel Richards Boy Blake Visuals: Melon Dezign (maybe) Date: Friday, February 18 Location: Philadelphia, PA Cost: $4-5 per (all profit is donated to Philadelphia Coalition for the Homeless) Timing: 10pm - 3am Admissions: Only with a necklace Specs: Original necklaces are still good for entrance at two entrances per necklace New necklaces available between 1ish and 9 at: 611 Records 611 S. 4th St. Philadelphia, PA 19147 Phone/Fax: 215/413-9100 Okay, for everyone who showed up to the last event I know you are foaming to get to this one. :) I am definately heading up for this one. The Deltas feature the finest lack of lasers, lights, salespeople, and attitude in the known world. The last one was just a nice basic space with some phat DJs spinning some wikked jams. Everyone was happy, the whole scene was wild and, well, it was incredible. People with massive amounts of expendable dance energy and great vibe are encouraged to attend. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 08:54:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( > On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: > And I remember when my distributors addressed the issue of all my > flyers for Odyssey (which was at the Bank) disappearing minutes after > they were placed in Paricia Field's. They claimed That during the short > interm between the time they were placed and they disappeared that Alan came > into the store + dissed my party and the suspicion was that he removed > the flyers. Since I've worked with Alan I couldn't believe it and while > at Limelight I questioned it him about it. I expected anything from > straight out denial to perhaps justification on the basis of territory > but what I got instead was assaulted being pushed alllthe way to the > back room where it could not be watched and wher he shoved me repeatedly > stating that if I ever repeated such suspicions to anyone he would make > sure that I would get it good. This disturbed me deeply but I let > bygones be bygones and for the most part I admire Alllan for his energy > and charisma ... I always admire and respect most those who push me around and threaten that they're going to 'get me good.' Alan sounds like a real sweetheart.... Phil Z ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 09:18:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: <199402091407.JAA12217@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Phil Z wrote: > > On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: David A. Wolfe writes NOW, I DID NOT write what appears below. > > > And I remember when my distributors addressed the issue of all my > > flyers for Odyssey (which was at the Bank) disappearing minutes after > > they were placed in Paricia Field's. They claimed That during the short > > interm between the time they were placed and they disappeared that Alan came > > into the store + dissed my party and the suspicion was that he removed > > the flyers. Since I've worked with Alan I couldn't believe it and while > > at Limelight I questioned it him about it. I expected anything from > > straight out denial to perhaps justification on the basis of territory > > but what I got instead was assaulted being pushed alllthe way to the > > back room where it could not be watched and wher he shoved me repeatedly > > stating that if I ever repeated such suspicions to anyone he would make > > sure that I would get it good. This disturbed me deeply but I let > > bygones be bygones and for the most part I admire Alllan for his energy > > and charisma ... > > I always admire and respect most those who push me around and threaten > that they're going to 'get me good.' Alan sounds like a real sweetheart.... > > Phil Z ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 10:55:51 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( Actually, if you bought the tickets before the event, (which meant not having to wait on a massive line outside), you only paid $17. I personally had a great time there at UniVibe. The only bad part was the line for water, which was a problem with the venue and not the promoter. I'm not sure if Scotto has, but Alan has been very vocal against hard drugs, and it was evident at UniVibe2....I had trouble finding anything! Ex is one thing, but heroin and coke are things that the rave scene in general can do without. It's good to see someone like Alan come out against them. By the way, I don't have anything against Scotto, but I paid $15 for See the Light here in boston, and it was not much more than 100-200 people *standing* and watching the DJ's. I guess I expectd more. just my 2 cents, --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:17:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: Re: Delta II! In-Reply-To: <199402090816.DAA21701@umd5.umd.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Feb 9, 94 1:51 am OK everyone, I am not going to flake out on this one. I will be going to delta II and am interested in having a pre thang. If Matt or any interested Philly people, or anyone wants to call me, it's 215-731-9918. I live in center city Philly, and will be getting queer necklaces today. I cannot promise more until I hit 611 tonight. The necklaces are intended for queers, so I will also try and get some net necklaces. Who will come to this fantabulous pahtae? e mail me, kids, houghton@mail.sas.upenn.edu I am waiting. . . be well, boyPrincealbert (you figure out hte initials) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:38:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 9 Feb 94 10:18:25 EST > > > On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, David A. Wolfe wrote: Oops... Sorry David, I mistakenly picked up your name in my post- I should have been quoting Paul Gaydos... Phil Z (life among the distracted) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 11:15:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: ZOOM advertising rates Cybertribe: For those of you who don't know, Jennifer Smeddy puts out a 'zine called "Zoom" that several of the other list members are involved with as contributors. "Zoom" is published quarterly, and the deadline for submissions and advertisements is February 25th. Below is a message that I am forwarding for Jennifer regarding ad space. Peace, Marshal Hamilton a.k.a. Mars For ad space, the following is a price breakdown: Size Price ------------------------------------------------ 8.5 by 11.................................120.00 8.5 by 5.5.................................76.00 4.25 by 5.5................................40.00 4.25 by 3..................................30.00 back page.................................220.00 2 pages next to one another...............200.00 (only 100 a page this way) if you would want an ad to run for 2 issues then you get an additional 5% off... We don't do artwork for ads, but can scan in your art or refer you to someone that does artwork. Again, the deadline is febuary the 25th --------------------------------------- oh a couple of facts that you might want to know... 1,000 reader each issue distributed every season (quarterly) who carries zoom: record stores... philly 611 nj planet x dc music now balti modern music stands... jsqared kentucky liquid technology pennsylvania events... resolution, universal vibe, energize, etc.... subscribtions... doubled in the last month! i think that is is for now... write me back if you have any questions.... jennifer smeddy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:13:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "sean kelly `94" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "sean kelly `94" Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: <199402090440.XAA21349@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, Michael J Minnich wrote: > Okay, who was behind UniVibe2, possibly the biggest rip off of a rave in > existence? Alan Sanctuary, right? I think that speaks volumes. $25 > for a rave that about half the size and about a tenth of the fun of > those $15 Catastrophic parties last year. I know prices just keep going > up, but even Resolution was only $20 and it was SOOOOOOOO much better > than UniVibe2. So if Alan Sanctuary was behind setting the price for > UniVibe2, I think we can write him off as a Class A wank. > I think that as far as UVibe 2 is concerned, Alan can be blamed more for picking a bad location than anything else. I think many of the problems associated with that event (and there were quite a few) were mostly the fault of the skate park administrators-- they insisted on having their own security, searching everyone _thoroughly_, not allowing vendors to bring in _any_ food (even for themselves), and I think they probably also charged Alan a huge amount to rent the place. Though I agree, $25 was an absurd amount to charge for that event, especially with how much I got hassled and how long it took to get in. In response to the post suggesting local ravers have their own events-- I don't know much about securing a location (it'd probably be better to have it in a loft, as was suggested), but there is definately enough talent and creative energy to produce some terrific events. -Sean > --- > Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu > "Just that gangsta glare..." > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:24:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mistress loretta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mistress loretta Subject: Re: HOM-taking In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 7 Feb 1994 17:15:03 -0500 from mel, I will be having a pre-party for nebula near albnay, ny. It might even start the night before with crash space avaible for all, but that is still up in the air...peace out! xx mistress loretta ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:27:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul Jeyanathan Gunaratnam Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul Jeyanathan Gunaratnam Subject: re. lover hi lover whose Romulo ??? Paulus ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:40:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RENDONL%NORWICH.BITNET@FORSYTHE.STANFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RENDONL%NORWICH.BITNET@FORSYTHE.STANFORD.EDU Subject: HELP! HOW CAN I GET BACK TO NE-RAVES. I BEEN TRAING TO DO SO BUT I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:00:44 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: HOM-taking Folks... Anyone thats going to Nebula going through or leaving from Buffalo, NY? I'd like to go, but (SHOCKER!) no car. I can help with gas and driving. Any offers??? Crash space would be kewl too. Thx All Apocalypse ************************************************************************** * Joseph M. Harre * "God is like a big * HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU * * Canisius College * shiny man" * HARREJ@DELPHI.COM * * Buffalo, NY * Rel. Studies Professor * HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU * ************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:31:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) In-Reply-To: <199402090533.AAA01358@umd5.umd.edu> The date on Expansion was misprinted on the last issue of th e NE_Raves calandar. The date is on th 12th of March...Cybertribe members will get a special reduced ticket price, more info coming soon... ...Spam & The Island Vibe Network ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 12:49:35 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Allentown What about getting to Allentown from Buffalo, NY? I'm sick of the total (well, NEAR total) abscence of a decent scene here. It's travel time :) Apocalypse P.S. Anything on Badges? ************************************************************************** * Joseph M. Harre * "God is like a big * HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU * * Canisius College * shiny man" * HARREJ@DELPHI.COM * * Buffalo, NY * Rel. Studies Professor * HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU * ************************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 13:19:10 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: ZOOM advertising rates How does one subscribe to ZOOM??? [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ] [ ######## 202/298-8210 FAX ** 800/864-9999 ext 80029 Voicemail ######## ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:27:12 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) excuse my ignorance...but in the info for Return to Nebula this was written under the dj lineup, "333 (England (New))" what is meant by that??? Is this a different dj then 333 of 333 & M-Gee??cause they are from england as well. Confused Love and Frogs!!! Neith ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:39:49 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: HELP! > HOW CAN I GET BACK TO NE-RAVES. I BEEN TRAING TO DO SO BUT I HAVE NOT > BEEN ABLE. Maybe the server can't stand all caps? ;) [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ ] [ ######## 202/298-8210 FAX ** 800/864-9999 ext 80029 Voicemail ######## ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:03:07 EST5EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Erinn Moore Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Erinn Moore Organization: Embry-Riddle Aeronautical Univ. Subject: SE-RAVE Dear members: I am new to this NE-RAVE List. I live in the Southeast, but I would love to hear from anyone on what's happenin' in the Rave culture out there. If it's cool send it to me. I'd love to tell it to my rave friends down here. Thanks. Erinn Moore aka Dark Knight moorere@bart.db.erau.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:32:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: 33 and mgee oops: thats 333 of course i said this before, but for all the newbies to understand: 333 and Mgee are from boston. they moved from england when they were2 or 3 years old. dale charls is from boston. he moved from california 6 years ago, and overload is from boston...moved from maine years ago too. so, altho they once all lived in extreme and exotic locales, they are now JUST BOSTONIANS........so don't give them credit they don't deserve: aren't their skills more important than where they live anyway? my $0.02 sprockett (in a bad mood....can u tell? ;) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 14:53:56 CST Reply-To: travalen@kcmetro.cc.mo.us Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Shawn Travalent Subject: D.C. shops Hi gang. I have a friend visiting the D.C. area this weekend on a buying trip for his midwest record store. Could you please drop me some names or addresses on any of your favorite record/disc peddlers in that area. your help is much appreciated ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Peace ^^^^^^^^Guido^^^^^^^^travalen@kcmetro.cc.mo.us ^^^^^home of The Private Conspiracy (Shhhh!) ^^the Deep Thought Council ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:13:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: ZOOM advertising rates In-Reply-To: <199402091706.MAA07168@umd5.umd.edu> If you guys need anymore distributors...here I am...I'll blanket Long Island with your bad boys...all you need to do is ask... ...Spam (chris) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:18:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: SE-RAVE > I am new to this NE-RAVE List. I live in the Southeast... you might be interested in... SERAVES on LISTSERV@AUVM.BITNET South East Rave List or LISTSERV@AMERICAN.EDU This list is dedicated to techno music and the rave scene associated with it, particularly in the Southeastern U.S. It is intended to be a free-form "chatty" mailing list. Suggested topics include reviews of music, raves, dj's, and clubs, as well as announcements of upcoming events. More personal discussions about the rave scene in general are also encouraged To subscribe, send mail to LISTSERV@AUVM.BITNET or LISTSERV@AMERICAN.EDU with the body (not the subject!) containing the command SUB SERAVES Your Name Alternately, if you are on BitNet you can use the TELL command (from a CMS system) or the SEND command (from a VAX system) to LISTSERV@AUVM. Mail sent to SERAVES@AMERICAN.EDU or SERAVES@AUVM.BITNET will be distributed to the entire list. Owners: John Humphrey jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Doug Zimmerman DZ5401a@american.edu You can also contact the list owners by sending mail to SERAVES-REQUEST at American. SERAVES also maintains several files that can be accessed without subscribing to the list. Please help us in maintaining them by sending any information or suggesstions to the list or list owners. SERAVES.LOR <- a calendar of upcoming events SERAVES.CLUBS <- a listing of clubs that play techno music on a weekly basis SERAVES.FAQ <- general info that is constantly being asked... SERAVES.STORES <- a listing of "alternative" record stores User Instructions ================= These commands can be sent to the listserv in the following ways: (a) if you are on a VM/CMS system on Bitnet, type: TELL LISTSERV AT AUVM command (b) if you are on a VAX system on Bitnet, type: SEND LISTSERV@AUVM command (c) send the command in the body of a piece of e-mail to: listserv@american.edu To see what files are available: ================================ Using one of the three methods above, send the command: INDEX SERAVES To request a copy of a file: ============================ Using one of the three methods above, send the command: GET fn ft (where fn and ft are the filename and filetype of the file as reported when you do the INDEX command). To request a copy of a file be sent to you whenever it changes: =============================================================== First, using one of the three methods above, send the command: PW ADD password Then, send the command: AFD ADD fn ft PW=password To obtain a copy of an information file via anonymous ftp: ========================================================== Ftp to ftp.american.edu. Logon as: anonymous Give your e-mail address as the password. Type: cd seraves Type: get fn.ft To obtain a copy of an information file via Gopher: =================================================== gopher to auvm.american.edu later days and sunny rays... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFANYDE@URVAX.URICH.EDU | ** Reach out, connect ** University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain dErEk if you prefer... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:26:43 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: HELP WANTED:Inquire within1 I got my subwoofers, so basically I have enough sound and lighting equipment for a small rave. I have access to more equip as needed. So I am looking for a partner to help organize some events (preferably raves but not a requirement) I want to meet someone that is willing to throw events anywhere between Philly and Boston. This person must be willing to handle finding venues, DJs (I DJ but I don't need to be the only one), promoting. I have a very large investment in the sound so this person must be willing to invest in throwing some damn good parties. I want someone who has similar visions of an ultimate party where everyone is having fun and the reward lies not neccesarily in the wallet but in your heart. Send your questions to me so that we can get the ball rolling... This offer stands for established promoters as well.... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 15:57:26 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) I was confused about the 333 thing on the Return to Nebula flyers. I can't imagine that it's a different DJ, though. Perhaps NEW is a group or place, as in Dave Trance (LI (Caffeine)). Oh well. Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 16:57:26 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Last of the one line questions...I promise Does anyone know of a good radio station for Techno in the Buffalo, NY area? I wanna tape some stuff :) Apocalypse |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 17:20:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... In-Reply-To: <199402090717.CAA15490@umd5.umd.edu> well... I just thought that I would ad my little 2 cents into this little talk about Allan Sanctuary...not like I know either Scotto or Allen personally... but I have worked for Scotto (under scooter) and was not payed for the work that I did for them...promotion for their Maskarave2 event...and no one can tell me that they did not make enough money to pay everyone what they were promised so that is one negative for scotto. as for Allen I really only knew who he was in a phsyical scene (not just seeing his name on a gazillion flyers) just recently (like 4months or so) and everytime I have met him he has been very nice and into the promo thing being very friendly and cool when ever he was passing flyers out for this or that... but who knows I could be totally off on this one 2cent Jenn :) Jennifer Smeddy jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 17:38:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: ZOOM advertising rates In-Reply-To: <199402091930.OAA27002@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, The Mighty Huevo wrote: > How does one subscribe to ZOOM??? well :) I am glad that you asked... you can just send a check or money order of 2.00 to... Jennifer Smeddy 306a university place po box 736 kutztown pa 19530 oh yeah...please make sure that you state if yo want the winter issue or the spring issue... PLUR, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 17:42:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: Handi's JPEGs... I just uploaded some jpegs of myself, so you all can finally see what I look like.... There are two: Handi.jpg & AcidHandi.jpg Tell me which one you like more :) They are in /pub/incoming for now... Hopefully they'll soon be moved to the ne-raves section... C-ya -Handi ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 17:58:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) I was confused about the 333 thing on the Return to Nebula flyers. I can't imagine that it's a different DJ, though. Perhaps NEW is a group or place, as in Dave Trance (LI (Caffeine)). Oh well. It's NEW as in NEW England. A sort of pun, because Paul Slater is from England originally and now lives in New England. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:25:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WQJQVBB@GROVE.IUP.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Wqjqvbb@Oak.Grove.Iup.Edu Michelle Danny" Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania Subject: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) sorry for sending this to *everyone* but, im not sure who is from new york. me and a few friends are going to timewarp on friday, and were concidering going up to ny for synergy... we will have all day on saturday to hang out. but, because we are a bunch of sheltered ppl from pittsburgh, we will have no idea where to go once we get there... :( sooooooo... if anyone is interested in hanging out with a bunch of really really cool kids... cold ya please mail me??? --oh... and if you are ever in pittsburgh... i will return the favor... :) P.L.U.R. michelle WQJQVBB@OAK.GROVE.IUP.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:18:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Delta II! I'll probably be coming down for this one...If anyone needs a ride from the Princeton area, or can get down here by train or whatever, I'd be delighted to give u a lift!! Can we get the necklaces the day of the event (or the evening, actually?)...If not, could someone pick one up for me at some point in time? I'd be eternally & a half thankful!! Peace! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:44:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: <199402082144.QAA20883@umd5.umd.edu> yes Scotto wants to makes some money, criticise him whatever.... this does not excuse Alan's violence.... leaving the project is quite enough of a message. There are different promoters for different philosophies but it hurts us all that the profession seems like its only for hoodlum like behaviour ... I'd like to see rave gain some integrity or it will not survive or develope.... bya your faithful boy Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 18:58:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Providence In-Reply-To: <199402090242.VAA02406@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 8 Feb 1994, wrote: > Hey! > Does anyone know what ravers do on a weekly basis in Providence, R.I.? > Any help would be gladly accepted. > much thanx, > Nicole > There is Lupos's on Mondays and sometimes Mike Reagan has a party in Woonsockett... most of the serious ravers I know leave town for the weekend but they have the money to do that.. I don't know anyone with a car that goes to NYC on the weekend of course there is the Loft in Boston on Fridays.....email me and i'll give you more info.... well I am here and all I'm trying to ddo is do an event on the full moon of February 26th it is a Saturday and I'm calling it LOONY if it gets off the ground ,,, however my personal situation is making me very innefficient at my job... LETS get together and you'll see... (discussion<---excuse the personal nature of this part) you can leave a message with the independent at 401 863 1993 and I'm often in CIT of Brown or at my friend Emily's place 863-6725 I wear a green hat and a green jacket.. I usually dine at louis's family restaurant on hope street or the ivy room snack bar at night... could use help, support, company, shelter , or food ---> your faithful boy Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:15:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: HELP WANTED:Inquire within1 In-Reply-To: <199402092242.RAA23410@umd5.umd.edu> I'M READY TO PUT MY WHOLE LIFE INTO IT AND ANYTHING I OWN .... HOWEVER I OWN NOTHING BUT MY HEART.... I HAVE AGOOD RAP WITH MOST OF THE EAST COAST PROMOTERS /DJS/ AND HAVE SOOM HOOKUPS THAT ARE NOT USUALLY SEEN AT PARTIES I WISH NOT TO DO AN EVENT UNLESS I T CAN BE A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE WILL HAVE PERVERSE AMOUNTS OF FUN FOR A GOOD DEAL AND PEOPLE CAN WORK TOGETHER SO NO ONE GETS FUCKED.. I SPEND A GROSS AMOUNT OF TIME FIGURING OUT ALTERNATIVE FINANCING TECHNIQUES SO THAT IT IS FAIR FOR EVERYONE. ANDD WHEN I'M NOT PROMOTING AN EVENT OR THE CULTURE IN GENERAL I'M LOOKING FOR LOCATIONS OR FINDING OUT HOW TO MAKE A LOCCATION AS BUST PROOF AS POSSIBLE...... MY WHOLE LIFE IS THIS AND I WOULD LOVE TO WORK WITH YOU ...... BUT I CAN'T PUT IN ANY CASH... IHAVE RELATIVES IN PHILLY I'VE LIVED IN NJ FOR 10 YEARS .. MYEVENTS HAVE BEEN IN NYC AND ... IM IN PROVIDENCE CURRENTLY AND MY PARENTS LIVEL OUTSID E OF BOSTON ... ITHINK THAT I AM WELL POSITIONED FOR THE TEERRITORY TYOU SPEAK OFF ...GIVE ME A BUZZ.. On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Thomas C Noe wrote: > I got my subwoofers, so basically I have enough sound and lighting > equipment for a small rave. I have access to more equip as needed. > > So I am looking for a partner to help organize some events > (preferably raves but not a requirement) > I want to meet someone that is willing to throw events anywhere between > Philly and Boston. This person must be willing to handle finding venues, > DJs (I DJ but I don't need to be the only one), promoting. > I have a very large investment in the sound so this person must be willing > to invest in throwing some damn good parties. I want someone > who has similar visions of an ultimate party where everyone is having > fun and the reward lies not neccesarily in the wallet but in your heart. > > Send your questions to me so that we can get the ball rolling... > This offer stands for established promoters as well.... > TOM > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:19:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... In-Reply-To: <199402100013.TAA06009@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Jennifer J. Smeddy wrote: > well... I just thought that I would ad my little 2 cents into this little > talk about Allan Sanctuary...not like I know either Scotto or Allen > personally... > > but I have worked for Scotto (under scooter) and was not payed > for the work that I did for them...promotion for their > Maskarave2 event...and no one can tell me that they did not make enough > money to pay everyone what they were promised so that is one negative for > scotto. > as for Allen I really only knew who he was in a phsyical scene (not just > seeing his name on a gazillion flyers) just recently (like 4months or so) > and everytime I have met him he has been very nice and into the > promo thing being very friendly and cool when ever he was passing > flyers out for this or that... > > but who knows I could be totally off on this one > > 2cent Jenn :) > > Jennifer Smeddy > jenn-bug > PERHAPS THIS REFLECTS MORE ON SCOOTER THAN ON SCOTTO BUT I WOULDN'T PUT IT PAST EITHER ONE OF THEM TO CHEAT YOU. SCOTTO DOES PAYOUT S OK BUT HE IS VERY POLITICALLY INCLINED WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MUCH FOR HOW MUCH WORK.... ( it helps to be a young boy which he can fantasize about) paul paul just spreading the dirty laundry in PLUR style give it up, ravers love to gossip...iexpect a lot of response to that comment! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:43:52 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "michael schreiber address=MS5414@ark.ship" Subject: info about an event not posted I haven't noticed any information about an event that will be held in Baltimore on March 19th yet. The event is Spritual Movement III hosted by Modern Music I am not sure of all the djs but some of the are Dj Sun and Neuromancer and Who@ Also, they will be having MOBY there, but I am not sure whether he is djing o r playing. I know that a lot of people have hang-ups about MOBY, as I do myself, but if tha the last two spiritual movement raves are any indication of what this one wil l be like, then the event will be PHAT!!!!!!!!! Tickets will probably be $15 and more information can be obtained by calling (410) 523-1882!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peace =) mike ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 19:59:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM OF THE WEEK!!! Heya folksies.....well, so far we don't have many entries on the HOM Don't forget to check in case you can offer a ride, crash space..or to see if someone's having a pre-party....I was tihnking, do you want me to include all pre-party info in case it was listed on one newsgroup and not the other? Ah well, keep well and take care.....[oh, and it's not too late to get your entries in...I put another one out on Fridays...] Hugz and squeezles.... Melzie **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, February 11 TIMEWARP II PA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hormell Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Ed Slip ebh@summit.novell.com Eileen Slip reillye@cyanamid.com John Sweeny [cool guy :) ][NEED RIDE (2)-BALTO] jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Michelle [WANTS TO MEET UP WITH RAVING BUDIES BEFOREHAND :)] WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, February 12 SYNERGY NEW YORK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michelle [WANTS TO MEET UP WITH RAVING BUDIES WHILE IN NY] WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu Sven [LIFT TO SYNERGY-AUSTRALIA :) ] svenema@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, February 18 DELTA II Phili, PA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Houghton [HOLDING PRE-PARTY] houghton@sas.upenn.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, February 19 NEBULA NEW YORK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mistress Loretta [HOLDING PRE-PARTY] NISK017@albany.albany.edu Apocolypse [NEEDS RIDE (BUFFALO) AND CRASH SPACE] HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 26 RED Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kriastopher Setchfield [ride needed-Boston] kumquat@asc.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:43:37 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) hey y'all, maybe the "333(england(new))" thingy means that he's from new england... that would be my guess... " ~ hary! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 20:56:34 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... > PERHAPS THIS REFLECTS MORE ON SCOOTER THAN ON SCOTTO BUT I WOULDN'T PUT > IT PAST EITHER ONE OF THEM TO CHEAT YOU. SCOTTO DOES PAYOUT S OK BUT HE > IS VERY POLITICALLY INCLINED WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MUCH FOR HOW MUCH > WORK.... > ( it helps to be a young boy which he can fantasize about) > paul paul just spreading the dirty laundry in PLUR style > give it up, ravers love to gossip...iexpect a lot of response > to that comment! Just 2 little things. Look down at your keyboard. Left hand side. Most likely there are 5 seperate keys from top to bottom. The middle one, meaning the third from the top OR the third from bottom is the caps lock. Learn what this key does. To comprehend it fully will bring joy and hapiness to all around you :) As for the other...is this REALLY the place and scene to promote homophobia? My .04 cents... Apocalypse |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 9 Feb 1994 22:27:14 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... In-Reply-To: <199402100146.UAA20074@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Paul J Gaydos wrote: > PERHAPS THIS REFLECTS MORE ON SCOOTER THAN ON SCOTTO BUT I WOULDN'T PUT > IT PAST EITHER ONE OF THEM TO CHEAT YOU. SCOTTO DOES PAYOUT S OK BUT HE > IS VERY POLITICALLY INCLINED WHEN IT COMES TO HOW MUCH FOR HOW MUCH WORK.... I know Scooter (Scott) fairly well as he attended the University of Delaware not too long ago. I haven't dealt with him business-wise, except for a little flyer distribution here and there, and he has been nothing but courteous to me. Couldnt tell you about his business dealings, but just thought I should add that he's always been another smiling face in the family. flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:11:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Delta II - Message II Okay, just talked to Nigel and it sounds like Jake WILL be doing the visual thing again. :) I can hardly wait to see him. Also, I should stress that these parties (there will be a series of four Deltas) are not 'raves'. They are parties intended to help bring together the disparate groups of dance cultures, or at least the various cliques within the rave subculture. Like Boy Prince Albert said (long time no see, Boy) there are alotments of necklaces for certain groups so that there will be a good representation from everyone. Net Ravers, Homosexuals, House Fans, Different Cities, Clubbers, etc.. I don't know the actual breakdown, but whatever Nigel is doing it works. These are great parties folks. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:16:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: OUTLAW 0212 ***************************************************** FROM THE FOLKS @ OUTLAW This Saturday February 12th @ Light, Wisdom and Sound 229 W28th Street Between 7th & 8th DJ Line up (at this time) JASON JINX - DANTE - ODI - MOBY JOESKY - SOUL SINGER - DB - JOE JOE Production by Total Solutions Trippy Video by The Neuronautic Institute Lighting by Woof for Psychcyberaidient "....and a good had was timed by all" -woof for (N)octurnal (A)udio (S)ensory (A)wakening ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:40:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: SYNERGY UPDAE as of now there iso space for ynergy.. dietrich spoke with manny today, and it is still up in the air. also note, before you make a long drive up or down for it... that many of the DJs have become frustrated with manny, and will not show up. this is what happens when you havea poorly planned party... >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 01:45:12 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , enzyme Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Masochistic Institute of Tech. From: enzyme Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: Delta II! In-Reply-To: <199402090813.DAA21377@umd5.umd.edu> please unsub me from the list at my phantom.com address, I'm getting it at mit too and don't need two copies of the list gravity's rainbow... plur educational: enzyme@mit.edu informational: enzyme@phantom.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 03:43:04 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... In-Reply-To: <199402100247.VAA28578@umd5.umd.edu> not homophobia just sexual-orientation bias .... it's the same to say Mr. Fisher the president is more likely to hire you as secretary if you are a pretty little ------- (you fill in the blank) i didn't put down Mr. Scott "O..." homosexuality (actually I've heard lack of sexuality) ,,, I definitely was targeting his bias in terms of paying people fairly based on their work and results. This is fair assesment.] Why is it every time I use the word homosexual or imply homosexuality do I get a whole hosts of homophobia accusations. Perhaps homophobiaphobia definately at a paranoid degree. Your faithful boy Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:51:33 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MOLARI@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Alexandre -. Molari" Subject: german rave listserv sorry, i wrote a wrong address. right one is derave-request@myplanet.tue.sub.org SUBSCRIBE really complete info on clubs,events... no chat! psyched ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:30:42 +0200 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , joakim ryden Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: joakim ryden Subject: join ne join ne ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 11:40:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Spiritual Movement 3 Cybertribe: Spiritual Movement 3 will be happening on March 19th. The location will be fully legal and fire inspected. The DJ line-up: Neuromancer Micro DJ Sun Jason Jinx Scott Henry Richie Hawtin Moby Lasers by Pawn Stiltwalkers Gyrobix and Visuals by Psylicybin For more info, contact Modern Music at (410)523-1882 Peace, Marshal (Mars) Villarosa ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:35:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: join ne In-Reply-To: <199402101709.MAA20217@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, joakim ryden wrote: > join ne > okee...where are we going? :) Mel aka c'mno, SOMEone had to :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:40:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Alan and Scotto :( In-Reply-To: <199402100113.UAA14811@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Paul J Gaydos wrote: > yes Scotto wants to makes some money, criticise him whatever.... > > this does not excuse Alan's violence.... leaving the project is quite > enough of a message. Like I was reminded of in my Theater class yesterday... Emotion and Reason do not always work hand and hand not in theater and not in real life... (but I really wish they did) We all make mistakes... P.L.U.R., Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 12:49:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: join ne I'll go anywhere as long as there are toasted marshmellows, cool tunes, and neat company :) Your pal, Wally (Noj=ME=John J.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 13:02:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Erica E Cryer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Erica E Cryer Subject: I'm his lover In-Reply-To: <199402091758.MAA14445@umd5.umd.edu> Sorry to cause such a stir, it was a mispost. Have a groovy jam. Peace and Jelly. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 13:09:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: INFO: Parties also going on Cybertribe: A couple of other things that didn't make it to the rave-o-matic: Thursday (tonight) "Natural" at Club Fever in Philly, 13th and Chesnut Thursday (tonight) "Vinyl" at the Stone Pony in Asbury Park, New Jersey 2nd and Ocean Ave. with special guest DJ Marshal Hamilton and WHTG 106.3FM DJ Jeff Manheimer Thurs., Feb. 23rd, in Philly, "Transformation" with Josh Wink (another Cloud 9 party) Sat., Feb. 25, "Liquid" in Montreal, Canada with Josh Wink and Nigel Richards, call (514)854-6446 Wed., March 2, "Pulse-8" at the Jersey Shore, with DJ's Marshal Hamilton and Glen Garcia, call (908)502-0660 for info and reduced admission Fri., March 11, "Kick It" in Philly, call (215)552-8940 Peace, Marshal Hamilton (aka Mars) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 13:53:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer Subject: outlawed In-Reply-To: <199402100718.CAA09261@umd5.umd.edu> from "David A. Wolfe" at Feb 10, 94 01:16:37 am Hello, > This Saturday February 12th @ Light, Wisdom and Sound > > DJ Line up (at this time) i spoke with dj trace and he mentioned coming up to nyc to spin at this event. is this still going on? i was also thinking about trekking up to nyc for this event too. would it be possible to get on the bill to spin for this? i know it is kinda short notice to get a tape to you, but i can give you many net references to go on. anyway, just thought i'd ask. and btw, i spin all sorts of breaks, from darkness to citrus to intelligent. :) dieselBoy / damian ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:50:35 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse - formally The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... > Why is it every time I use the word homosexual or imply homosexuality > do I get a whole hosts of homophobia accusations. > > Perhaps homophobiaphobia definately at a paranoid degree. > Your faithful boy Paul Paul You're right on that one I'm ashamed to admit. I jumped the gun. My regrets and apologies. My thinking came from the assumed liberalness of this list and the people here, which I think still holds true. If a guy was to hire a pay 'cute little girls' more it would be equally cheesy. Point taken :) PLUR, Apocalypse |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:33:18 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse - formally The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: join ne > join ne Who is this infamous Mr. Ne? Where does he wish to go? What does he want to do? Apocalypse (who is grinning) |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:30:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: OUTLAW 0212 Is that what that NASA concert series was... Nocturnal Audio Sensory Awakening? I thought it had something to do with the space science team.... how's that for stupid! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:31:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) This is a quote: sorry for sending this to *everyone* but, im not sure who is from new york. me and a few friends are going to timewarp on friday, and were concidering going up to ny for synergy... we will have all day on saturday to hang out. but, because we are a bunch of sheltered ppl from pittsburgh, we will have no idea where to go once we get there... :( sooooooo... if anyone is interested in hanging out with a bunch of really really cool kids... cold ya please mail me??? --oh... and if you are ever in pittsburgh... i will return the favor... :) P.L.U.R. michelle WQJQVBB@OAK.GROVE.IUP.EDU <<<<< ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:32:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: D.C. shops In-Reply-To: <199402092159.QAA17758@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 9 Feb 1994, Shawn Travalent wrote: > Hi gang. I have a friend visiting the D.C. area this weekend on a buying > trip for his midwest record store. Could you please drop me some names or > addresses on any of your favorite record/disc peddlers in that area. your > help is much appreciated > > Musicnow. get off the metro at gallery place station, walk past the art museum, and theres a squatty little ghetto-like place which contains a few wig stores, and then bohemia/musicnow ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:32:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Gilliss Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Gilliss Subject: Upcoming Ambient Hello all, I just got wind of not one but TWO great events that will take place during March in the Baltimore area: 1. SONIC SOUL, Interactive Trance Ambient Atmosphere March 5 2. SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT III, Confirmed DJs: Moby, Richie Hawtin, Scott Henry, Jason Jinx, DJ Sun, Micro and, Neuromancer. March 19 for more info call: 410.523.1882 If I get any more details, I'll pass them along. Dave Gilliss "The Caffeine Driven Stress Magnet" Office of Technology Development University of Maryland at Baltimore dgilliss@cosy.ab.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 15:47:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Providence In a previous message, Paul Paul said: >I don't know anyone with a car that goes to NYC on the weekend of course there is the Loft in Boston on Fridays.....email me and i'll give you more info... <<<, "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: parties at princeton (non-rave) Even though this is not exactly rave-related, I said I'd post the parties going on at Princeton each week...If you want to come down, give me some e-mail :) Thursday: Campus Club -- The Grifters Tot Finders Tot finders is a student acoustic mello band. Grifters is more indie rock, I think... Saturday: Campus Club -- Hum Vineland More Indie/ Alternative rock...Apparently Hum is on the verge of making it big... Peace! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:26:51 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: new york promoters All of this bickering between promoters really makes me sad. As the people that throw our parties, can't promoters try to hold up rave ideals like unity and love? They are the figureheads of the scene, they are the ones that speak in magazines, yet they can't even refain from their petty squabbling. I realize it must be extremely difficult to throw a party in the NYC area, but wouldn't good logic be to work together to be a stronger force against the authorities rather than making things more difficult by fighting among ravers? As someone who tried to rave through the whole BUG-RAID(to kill bugs)(please!)in the summertime it really saddens me that AGAIN ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 14:07:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: promo tape In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 19 Jan 1994 11:52:18 -0500 I was going through some of my old unread mail and came accross this request for a demo from soundz? You mentioned that you were putting together a rave for Feb/Mar. I am curious as to how it is going? I don't know if you checked out my post yesterday"Help Wanted Inquire within" I am aways looking to travel with my sound system (I got a van) so I am curious as to what you may be lokking for?! Just a thought...... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:40:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: ny rave promoters oops, I'm really sorry about mailing that last one early. This is the first time I responded to ne rave letters, so I would appreciate it if you bear with me. It just makes me so mad that after the bug/raid war everybody is fighting again! The parties in the summertime really sucked hardcore, and I thought things were finally starting to get sorta nice again. Anyway, neither Alan nor Scotto are right, they're both in it for the money and just don't want to admit it. I'm so sick of Scotto coming out at Outlaw and saying over the loudspeaker how underground it is. He totally tries to make it sound like a rave, but I'm sorry, its not, its a club. I saw people put down baby powder so they could dance better and I have personally been danced into a corner by a club kid who thought he had rights to the dance floor because he was a better dancer. I don't have a car so I have nowhere else to go, and I hope that maybe being nice to a few people will help the vibe a little, but Scotto is certainly not doing anything for the true rave scene. Alan has on more than one occasion said I was on his guest list then charged me more at the door saying it was out of his hands. Okay, once, twice, maybe even three times, but it happens everytime. The last time I tried my friend rian repeatedly said "Are you sure its free?" and Alan assured us it wuld be, then at the door tried to charge us 15 dollars. Please. Integrity? How about this thing called TRUTH? I'm sorry this is so long. I've got one more thing to say. All of NYC operates under the attitude that "If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere". Obviously this fosters competition, and frankly, its just not a place where true raves, open to all people, together in unity, are going to happen. I've had many beautiful experiences in NYC, but there is just not enough space to have a big, happy rave they way they are supposed to be. So instead, I suggest just trying to work together to make the best of it and always remember the ideals of love and unity. Dawn ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:30:45 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "michael schreiber address=MS5414@ark.ship" Subject: info about the sonic soul Hey if anyone knows anymore about the sonic soul rave, please post it! Does anyone know if it will be all ambient trance as the name implies? Thanks Mike ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 16:56:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94) In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 09 Feb 94 15:57:26 -0400. <9402092132.AA28443@MIT.EDU> >I was confused about the 333 thing on the Return to Nebula flyers. I can't >imagine that it's a different DJ, though. Perhaps NEW is a group or place, >as in Dave Trance (LI (Caffeine)). Oh well. from paul slater's mouth: scott richmond called paul about spinning and asked him "what do you want after your name on the flyer?" paul said: "put New England." scott richmond said "are you sure you don't want London or England?" paul said "put New England." in order to eek ever ounce of promotional value out of the situation, scott richmond put England (new) paul said he just got a job vale'ing [sp?] cars at a restaurant. he says that if they ask him to work the night of Return to Nebula, he would rather work than spin for scott richmond... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 18:19:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio Subject: Re: I'm his lover In-Reply-To: <199402102047.PAA19386@umd5.umd.edu> you go girl. peace out soul sista ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 18:21:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio Subject: Re: INFO: Parties also going on In-Reply-To: <199402102112.QAA22784@umd5.umd.edu> how 'bout Pittsburgh? peace out soul sista ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 19:10:45 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer Subject: IGNORE IF NOT KEVIN LAMB kevin, please call hossam at 412.682.0911 or write him at hae2@po.cwru.edu thanx ps - this has everything to do with timewarp2 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:28:04 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse - formally The Mighty Huevo Organization: Canisius College Subject: I'm begging ya here.... Anyone who will listen... *turns pester mode on* Anything happening with the badges? I really would like one. Badges are kewl. *pester mode off* PLUR, Apocalypse |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 22:33:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) In-Reply-To: <199402102247.RAA05608@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, wrote: > This is a quote: > > sorry for sending this to *everyone* but, im not sure who is from new york. > me and a few friends are going to timewarp on friday, and were concidering > going > up to ny for synergy... we will have all day on saturday to hang out. but, > because we are a bunch of sheltered ppl from pittsburgh, we will have no idea > where to go once we get there... :( sooooooo... if anyone is interested in > hanging out with a bunch of really really cool kids... cold ya please mail > me??? > --oh... and if you are ever in pittsburgh... i will return the favor... :) > > P.L.U.R. > > michelle > > WQJQVBB@OAK.GROVE.IUP.EDU > > <<<<< > > Regarding this message I picked up something interesting. I know this isn't > pertinent to rave information, but what I noticed seemed important to me. > Michelle writes, "sooooooo... if anyone is interested in > hanging out with a bunch of really really cool kids..." > it made me think that sometimes we never really consider what the other > people who attend raves are like.... We rave and party with them but do we > ever get to hang out with them? Well I have met Michelle and she is very cool in my book :) infact she will be one of the dancers I have during my perfomance at Pleasuredome. As of right now we are planning a gathering late this spring in Pittsburgh (when all the snow is gone) so people on the pb-cle-raves list can get to meet eachother and hang out in the park, play music, frisbee, throw around boomerangs etc. I suggest every locality should organize something like this. It is a good way to meet new folks and to talk to those you've always seen at a rave but never got around to talk to. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 22:44:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: INFO: Parties also going on In-Reply-To: <199402110118.UAA28850@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 10 Feb 1994, Christina M Marinaccio wrote: > how 'bout Pittsburgh? > > peace out > soul sista Chris, are you on the pb-cle-raves list? If not send a SUBSCRIBE request to pb-cle-raves-request@telerama.lm.com Joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 23:22:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) I'm not sure if anyone from Boston wrote about this yet, but last year... basically last spring semester was when a lot of the Boston area neravers got together to do nonrave things together- ok- they were rave related, but not at actual raves- neith's preBlue dinner was one.... the Worcester posse had a party.... whole groups of us would go to Chuck E Cheese's, IHOP, or hang around each other's dorms either before raves, before clubbing, or just to hang and chill.... and when all that happened, we all became very good friends. There have been numerous picnics inspired by Taylor *sigh* 808 in Boston, DC, and I'm sure other places as well.... so we do get together.... thought probably not as often as we would like to . I do urge ravers in the same areas to get together more often to hang out, watch movies, have dinner, picnic, do sports, etc etc.... I know that for me, moving back to an area where most of my childhood friends have long left has been painful in that I miss my circle of Massachusetts and Rhode Island friends who I used to see almost every week. tina ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 23:48:14 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) People who meet at raves and parties should definitely meet outside of an actual event. Where could a bunch of us really cool kids meet in Boston before RED. I'd recommend my dorm room, but it's a little small...:) -Dan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 10 Feb 1994 23:56:09 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Providence The loft it the only actual 'club' worth going to in Boston. House and tribal on the first floor and techno, trance and alot of breaks on the second. Gets a bit too packed around 2-3, but if you go early and stay late you'll have enough room to break a sweat. No alcohol, but unfortunately it gets alot of bar run-off after 2. I usually have fun anyway...:) -Dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 00:05:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) i think as we bring on the warm weather theere ought to be more get togethers happening...hopefully i can have people over before and after red *crosses fingers* and as it gets warmer..we have a cool beach eh taylor? *tosses sand at him* but it has a beautiful park and room for so many of us :) i miss everyone...but cold weather tends to keep me indoors :( love and frogs!!! neith ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 00:03:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: hanging out well.. on the thread of hanging out ouside of raves.. this is precisely the purposes of the picnics that i have in central park. they are always incredily successful and fun.. and i too encourage any sort of get-togethers in your area besides meeting at raves.. i am VERY much looking forwd to the first real warm spring day where we can all hang out in central park ain.. peace + butterflies >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 8 Feb 1994 20:30:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sjakie Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sjakie Subject: NET ATTACK!!! MELONZ ARE BACK! I dont know if Synergy will be on this weekend or not but anyhow here is what I'd like to do: For Synergy: Net ravers can send me a message, with 2 lines of text which will be shown at Synergy. I will either make a scroller [horizontal or vertical] that will scroll your message on my screen during the party. You can write whatever you want and you can address it to whomever you want as long as it is not obscene or ragging on someone. So remember '2 LINES' of text NO MORE!!! that is TWO (2) LINES... like this: ......................................................................... ......................................................................... One more thing; if you send me a message with one word of your choice I will make a flashing animation of all the "one words" people send me... hope this aint too confusing! hehe... so you can e-mail me with your two lines of text and at the botton write "DOPE" or "PIZZA" or whatever you want.. I will put all those last words into a animation [like said above]... get it? if not shoot me.. Jake MELON DEZIGN P.S. I got a real job now, 12 hrs a day 6 days a week...trying to fit raves into my mega tight schedule is getting harder! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 09:24:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Sjakie Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Sjakie Subject: Net Attack at DELTA II Because of the snow storm I wont be able to attend Synergy, besides I wasnt able to talk to Manny so I dont know if Synergy is happening in the first place... so all those NET ATTACK messages will be displayed at DELTA II brought to you by Horizon Group/Melon Dezign and Slurp! melon@access.netaxs.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------- MELON DEZIGN MULTIMEDIA Rave/Nightclub Computer Video Projections Live ONLY! No Video Tapes Video Sampling/3D Graphics/Psychedelic Visuals "Not From Concentrate" Visual Aurals/Retinal Stimulation and other melon@access.netaxs.com neat stuff. Not affiliated with MD France. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:08:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: Re: info about the sonic soul Sonic soul Soul is Bobble an LG. They were part of Baltimore's Atomic Vibe tribe wh which were responsible for some very good raves (Happiness) was one of the my top five five raves of all time). I don't know whose on the else is on the DJ lineup but Bo bo Bobble spins trance and LG spins ambient. - Rob ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 10:57:16 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Summertime, et al.. I've been reading a lot of posts lately about promoters and money and club kids, etc. What I really think is this: Fuck NYC, forget the club scene - you don't even need a DJ - just go into the fields with some drums and anything musical and dance like mad. (You could probably create more spontaneous, beautiful music than most DJs play anyway). Bring friends (lots of them). Of course wintertime is a different story, but the idea can still apply itself. Grass roots! The Kool Klub Scene (TM) gets the gas face. Darshan I'm serious.. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:20:58 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan English Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan English Subject: dante at the loft in boston tonite dj dante will most likely (unless the owners are creeps) be spinning at the loft in boston tonite. he is back in town after having moved to san francisco. see you there.... -camper * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 17:33:12 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MOLARI@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Alexandre -. Molari" Subject: Re: Summertime, et al.. i heard (and that's true) in england they had a 30000 ravers illegal (not sure of that) in Sherwood forest!!!!! made by the world most known Sound System : SPIRAL TRIBE! that's great! psyched ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:03:38 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: T2 Hey, Does anyone know if Timewarp 2 is still a go? I was planning to go, but it is snowing like mad here in New York and I don't know if my car would even make it. Hmmmm... Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:41:21 -0500 Reply-To: Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: info about the sonic soul In-Reply-To: <199402111512.KAA02814@umd5.umd.edu> I went to Sonic Souls first, and maybe only effort, Expand. Their philosophy was to bring togather DJs from every genre, for a good price (it was $5), and bring back the underground (it was illegal). The party ended with a bust at 5am or so and then it continued with a renegade sound system on the baltimore waterfront. beautiful. DJs were Sun, Jason Jinx, Scott Hardkiss, Mindphuq, Who, Wash, Bobble, Scott Henry, Pegas, Entity, Trip, and Lg. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:52:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: [MW-RAVES:659] cafe raves (fwd) i thought this sounded like a great idea. esp. for some of the cities with disbanded or dying scenes. organize one in your sity? :) chris ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Feb 94 11:16:22 -0600 From: Matt C Bonde To: Multiple recipients of list Subject: [MW-RAVES:659] cafe raves it's still in the make, but dates have been set. Massive Megazine in association with Reactor Magazine....... present an OPEN FORUM ON THE FUTURE OF RAVE CULTURE. In Milwaukee, on Monday, March 7th, those interested will convene at a local coffee house (choice: Brewed Awakenings, Fuel, or Gill's Bongo) to discuss what it's all about. In Chicago, on Tuesday, March 8th, the conference will take place at some coffee shop around Cark and Belmont. The planning is very loose right now and input would be appreciated. A meeting in Minneapolis was suggested, so those who are from there, join in the fun. Details to be settled in the comong weeks. matt mot massive ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 11:06:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: hanging out In-Reply-To: <199402110729.CAA24919@umd5.umd.edu> taylor deupree writes: > i am VERY much looking forwd to the first real warm spring day where we > can all hang out in central park ain.. oh come on! let's have a snow party! :-) - dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 12:55:29 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: sub discuss Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 13 SUB DISCUSS ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 13:15:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: dante at the loft in boston tonite >>dj dante will most likely (unless the owners are creeps) be spinning >>at the loft in boston tonite. >>he is back in town after having moved to san francisco. >>see you there.... Went to Venus last nite and Dante was spinning horrible music. It was straight up disco and 70s rock songs sped up. This from a man who I used to basically worship. What happened? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 13:55:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: dante at the loft in boston tonite In-Reply-To: <199402111851.NAA02368@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 11 Feb 1994, Wei-En Chang wrote: > Went to Venus last nite and Dante was spinning horrible music. > It was straight up disco and 70s rock songs sped up. This from a man who I > used to > basically worship. What happened? He found something he loved and moved to San Francsico. flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 14:10:13 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: dante at the loft in boston tonite > Went to Venus last nite and Dante was spinning horrible music. > It was straight up disco and 70s rock songs sped up. This from a man who I > used to > basically worship. What happened? Hah! Funny you should ask! If you're talking about the OLD Dante who spun at the September '92 Storm and USED to spin beautiful HARD TRANCE. Yes, he is dead. I think his NEW style started a little over a year ago and as far as I know he's been spinning that _____ stuff ever since. Oh well. dave. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 13:57:18 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Summertime, et al.. Ah, the joys of the Spiral Tribe party!! Mikebee--do you have any news as to their trials and tribulations with the English judicial system? My memories of my one and only Spiral Tribe rave are not fading, I can guarantee you that much!! Wikked hardcore/hardtrance/bizarre acid with a really insane vibe...A bunch of pre-21st century loonatiks dancing in a field for days on end, driven by the pulsing strobe and a feeling.. Well, not a feeling of PLUR--it was more dance _hard_ _harder_ _harder_.. This one guy was taking advantage of the fact that everyone was X'ed out to ask for gas money...He probably made enough $$ at the end to drive across friggin' Europe and back :) The Spirals themselves are pretty far out--they notch their eyebrows, shave their heads and rave with passion!! One of 'em had her baby in her arms at 6 a.m.--not too close to the speakers, but it was still a bit of a shock to see a baby's face in that not-so-innocent setting :) PEace! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 15:07:45 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: i dunno hey y'all i hate to bother yous with a petty question...but thios has been bothering for about two years i guess, and i would like to know... first, what does R.O.A.R. stand for? i've seen it at the bottom of flyers for ever, and i could never figure out what it stood for. also, i can't figure out this PLUR thing either. where am i? i would appreciate the help, for i would be a complete person. later now, " ~ hary ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 15:41:18 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MS5414@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "michael schreiber address=MS5414@ark.ship" Subject: T2 Timewarp 2 has been cancelled for tonight due to the weather. The new date for it is March 11th. I believe all the same djs will be there! Mike ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 16:34:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: NET ATTACK!!! MELONZ ARE BACK! In-Reply-To: <199402110744.CAA27351@umd5.umd.edu> from "Sjakie" at Feb 8, 94 08:30:38 pm Well I asume that this is going to be put over the net, but I don't have Melonz address so I will just write it and hope that it is seen intime for Timewarp II..... Here are my two lines: Love and Hugs to Michelle and Jimm... Dance a step for me!! Wish I was with ya! :) See ya soon in the wonderful world of RAVE..... Chris.. and ummm my word will have to be: GROOVENICK Well I hope this gets on OK... And I hope you all have a good time... (Bummer about Synergy! :( ) Later... -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 17:42:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , GREGORY JOSE SHEARER Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: GREGORY JOSE SHEARER Subject: Cooler Than Christ Yo Yo Yo CyberTribals!!!! I love yer little list here but too damn much traffic. Remember it is not just a dance yer talking about..... *giggle* Piece & Love JD ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 18:23:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: i dunno I used to wonder these same things, too. ROAR = Right of Admission Reserved PLUR = Peace Love Unity Respect Knowledge is power, bruthas and sistas. Peace, Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:50:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 26 sub ne-raves Matt Jukins ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:51:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: sorry about that Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 87 Sorry...i mailed that to the list instead of listserv by accident. My bad. :) -matt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:56:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: The Boston Scene is NOT Dead....yet. This might be a little premature, but... There is a little microrave being born at Wellesley... (microrave meaning...little.) So don't despair! But if you'd like to help out...let me know :) *wfs* Jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:49:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: Raves in my area?? Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 389 Hello all. I am currently up at the University of New Hampshire, and it seems to be very hard to find raves around here. First of all, could anyone tell me of any going on around here in the near future? (around here meaning Portland, ME or such, or anywhere in New Hampshire...) Second of all, I have never been to a rave before, so I would like to know what to expect. Thanks Matt ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 19:00:47 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Susan R. Kameny" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Susan R. Kameny" Subject: Re: dante at the loft in boston tonite In-Reply-To: <9402111852.AA21643@sutro.SFSU.EDU> very simple he went west for a while...partyon...susie(; (gosh i did't even know he went back...last i saw/heard he was hanging out in the haight ashbury of sf...)???? On Fri, 11 Feb 1994, Wei-En Chang wrote: > >>dj dante will most likely (unless the owners are creeps) be spinning > >>at the loft in boston tonite. > >>he is back in town after having moved to san francisco. > >>see you there.... > > Went to Venus last nite and Dante was spinning horrible music. > It was straight up disco and 70s rock songs sped up. This from a man who I > used to > basically worship. What happened? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 23:21:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BPMF@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jason Szostek Subject: strawberry feilds forever Taylor's parties in the park are the vibe!! If you're not there, you're: __________ | | | | | | |________| Next time we'll see you there. We can party in NYC without the politics, come on down next time. Jason ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 11 Feb 1994 23:33:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul Fabozzi Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul Fabozzi Subject: Synargy Did anybody definatly know the directions to saturday's synargy party. And does anybody know if its still definatly on with this mad storm we are ahaving. They said to call for directions, but there is none on the message. Thanks People. See ya there! Paulie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 02:45:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Subject: spring my pride (cat-style) why is every raver a last man? Kreig PS. ROAR= Right Of Admission Reserved PPS. I have met Dante, if someone would fracture his skull i will award you with cash. / ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 05:25:30 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: Raves in my area?? In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 11 Feb 1994 20:49:49 -0500 > anyone tell me of any going on around here in the near future? (around > here meaning Portland, ME or such, or anywhere in New Hampshire...) the newest rave-o-matic listing raves will be in your mailbox in a few days > I have never been to a rave before, so I would like to know what to expect. for all of you to enjoy, pulled down from the gopher and ftp archive site, techno.stanford.edu ... the frequently asked questions: The Official alt.rave FAQ Maintained by Chris.Hilker, cspot@cats.ucsc.edu Version 2.2 Last Modified 20 Nov 93 CONTENTS 0 Introduction to the FAQ 1 What is a "rave"? 1.5 The "House Vibe" 2 What is "techno music" 3 DJing 4 Drugs/Smart drinks 5 The visuals 6 Creating techno music 7 Other rave-related mailing lists 8 Techno music stores 9 Techno/Rave publications 10 Throwing your own parties 11 Appendix I - true Frequently-Asked-Questions --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 0 Introduction to the FAQ Raves are, if anything, the ultimate subjective experience. Your perception of how well or how badly a rave "goes off" is based at least 70% on your state of mind (and depending on the circumstances, 100%). Therefore, it's impossible to create an FAQ which is entirely objective. I'll do my best. I am MORE than happy to incorporate others' suggestions into the FAQ, to include dissenting opinions and statements, within reason. This file is not the be-all and end-all of rave culture; many of the topics here will simply be introductions to the subject and point to the little rave FTP site I've created at techno.stanford.edu under /pub/raves. There's simply TONS of stuff there. And for the rest of the document, whenever I refer to "the ftp site", I mean techno.stanford.edu0. This document should also serve as an introduction to alt.rave. Alt.rave has been alive since early 1992, and has an extremely wide distribution. At last count an est. 20,000 people read it. As is usual on USENET, people often have strong opinions which clash with others' strong opinions. If everyone accepted the view that reality is subjective, and that on matters of taste there is no dispute, then flame wars become a thing of the past. Posts like "Orbital sucks, and the Orb can kiss my butt" are probably inappropriate flamebait. Rewording it to say, "I am disappointed by the new Orbital because..." is a lot better. Many people also complain about too many posts about a particular subject, or group, or country, etc... to which the standard response is, start talking about what you want to hear. Finally, there was a big debate about whether to create alt.music.techno, to "distinguish" the music from the scene, and the idea was backed away from, with the view that discussion about rave/techno music is completely appropriate on alt.rave. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 What is a "rave"? The term "rave" has been overused almost to the point of losing its meaning. The word has always meant (according to webster): >1. rave \'ra-v\ vb [ME raven] 1a: to talk irrationally in or as if in > delirium 1b: to declaim wildly 1c: to talk with extreme enthusiasm 2: to > move or advance violently : STORM : to utter in madness or frenzy - rav.er > >2. rave n often attrib 1: an act or instance or raving 2: an extravagantly > favorable criticism In general practice, a "rave" usually refers to a party, usually all night long, open to the general public, where loud "techno" music is mostly played and many people partake in a number of different chemicals, though the latter is far from necessary. The number of people at the event is unimportant; it can range from 50 people to 25,000 people. The cost of attendance is also unimportant - there have been good raves and bad raves at both ends of the cost spectrum (though in practice, the higher the price, the more commercial the event, and the lower the quality). At a rave, the DJ is a shaman, a priest, a channeller of energy - they control the psychic voyages of the dancers through his choice in hard-to-find music and their skill in manipulating that music, sometimes working with just a set of beats and samples, into a tapestry of mindbending music. A large part of the concept of raves is built upon sensory overload - a barrage of audio and very often visual stimuli are brought together to elevate people into an altered state of physical or psychological existence. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1.5 The "Vibe" The actual concept of raves is not new - it is as old as time itself. As the base level, raves are very comparable to American Indian religious ceremonies, i.e. pow-wows, and also to the concept of the Shaman in Eskimo and Siberian society - where music is the key towards pulling oneself into a unique emotional and psychological state, a state in which one experiences washes of sensations and visions, not delusions, but visions. Sounds very hokey in print, but I'm sure MANY of you out there know what I'm talking about. The hypnotizing effect of techno music coupled with the seemless transitions and thematic progressions of rave DJ's as the night progresses can be QUITE intoxicating, resulting in what could be closely compared to a religious experience. Music in general has always been able to sweep people off their feet, but what distinguishes raves are the concept of the _shared_ experience; a feeling of unity often arises, and people are open and friendly to one another. There is a loss of that "attitude" that is omnipresent in normal clubs and even in life in general. People are celebrated for who they are, not what they aren't. There are many better ways to explain the above, and more than a few can be found at the FTP site. For a better, blow-by-blow description of what an actual rave is like, please check the FTP site under the media/ directory, and get "image" - it's an article that appeared in the SF Examiner in February 1992, and is perhaps one of the most comprehensive surveys of the rave scene ever to appear in print. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 What is "techno music" Opinions on this vary greatly, but there are a few ways to distinguish techno from other types of music. Overall, techno is denoted by its slavish devotion to _the_beat_, the use of rhythm as a hypnotic tool. It is also distinguished by being primarily, and in most cases entirely, created by electronic means. It is also noted for its lack of vocals in most cases. Techno also usually falls in the realm of 115-160BPM. There are of course exceptions to every one of these rules, but these guidelines seem to survive the "what about..." test most of the time. There has also been a significant use of samples in techno songs, samples lifted in huge blocks and contributing a large share to a song's popularity. This can be both bad ("Theme to Sesame Street" in Smart E's "Sesame's Treet") or good (Star Trek transporters sampled in Eden Transmission's "I'm So High", giving YOU that transporting feeling) or great (Tears for Fears sampled in Orbital's "Moebius"). This sampling has generated much controversy, and it is the opinion of the author and many others that sampling is okay as long as the sample is not the whole song; "Seseme's Treet" might be an okay song, but if you take away the sample (which was lifted verbatim from the TV show), you don't have much of a song left. "Rave" music has several different forms: [and before we proceed, remember the words of God's personal DJ, Jon Drukman: "abolish labels."] a. (Chicago) House House music is where it all began, when Chicago DJ's started playing around with their Kraftwerk 12"'s with their soul records, and a brand new object called a DRUM MACHINE which they discovered they could use in their set. The steady and clean sound of the house rhythm coupled with uplifting soul vocals gave "house parties" an incredible energy. Please see "jackshouse" on the ftp site for a good example of the mindset of this time... House also uses more piano riffs and generally sounds "happier" than most other forms of music played at raves. Good Samplers: Best of House Music, Vol. 1, 2 (Gotta Have House), and 3 (House Music All Night Long) Aly-us "Follow Me" b. Acid-House Acid-house developed when the Roland 303 and similar drum machines/ synthesizers came out producing the "funky worm" - that VERY distinctive sound (see any "Acid Mix" of any song) that just *sounds* liquid (sorry, that's the best way I can describe it). The sound and the style is linked to use of LSD, but many people (myself included) claim to feel many of the same sensations while listening to acid-house music. Others claim this is wrong, that acid was a term derived in Chicago for stealing samples from other records, i.e. the "acid burn". Still others claim this was a rumor created by people defending the scene in Britain, trying to unlink the party scene from the drug scene. james@sol1.east-london.ac.uk writes: Idiotic musicians from a circa 86 uk go to the uk to tour. The uk at that point is in the grip of an 60s acid rock revival ( eg the shamen started off as a psyche-? band in this thang) and they GO TO DETRIOT! THeY buy records! Being a bit stupid and under the influence of vast quanities of LSD they just buy stuff at random out of the 'acid' section. When they get home they realise their mistake but think wow this is a bit nice. Good Samples: House Hallucinates Pump Up the World Vol. 1 (A&M CD 3928) Adamski - Liveanddirect (MCA MCAD-6454) Maurice - This is Acid and more recently, more in the vein of acid trance: Hardfloor - TB Rescusitation Anything on Labworks c. Techno It is probably best to split techno into three groups - proto-techno, Detroit techno, hardcore, and "techno-rave". c.1. Proto-Techno: Proto-Techno isn't really a style of music per se. It's merely a concatenation of the various artists and styles that had the biggest impact on the original creators of techno in Detroit. Hence, there isn't much stylistic homogeneity here. Proto-Techno can be anything from the minimal, assembly-line technopop of Kraftwerk (particularly the 'Trans-Europe Express' album) to the nonsense, party-time funk-taken-to-its-illogical- extreme of George Clinton's Parliament/Funkadelic to the early '80's hip-hop mongrelization of the two in the Electro genre. Examples: Kraftwerk: "Neon Lights" Parliament: "Flash Light" Afrika Bambaataa & the Soulsonic Force: "Planet Rock" Cybotron: "Clear" Further Listening: Kraftwerk: 'Trans-Europe Express' (Capitol CDP 7 46473 2) Kraftwerk: 'Computer World' (Elektra 9 3549-2) Parliament: 'Parliament's Greatest Hits: Uncut Funk/The Bomb' (PolyGram 822 637-2) Various: 'Street Jams: Electric Funk Vol. 1' (Rhino R2 70575) c.2. Detroit Techno: The hallmarks of Detroit Techno are a stripped-down, aggressive funk sound, played mostly on analogue instruments (the Roland TR-808 is a favorite drum machine), and, most of all, a pounding, severe rhythm. Vocals are rare. It has no "soul" in the traditional Motown/Stax sense of the word, which is not to say that the music is devoid of feeling or emotion - it's just that the expression thereof is unconventional. "Magic" Juan Atkins, Kevin "Reese" Saunderson, and Derrick "Mayday" May are the names you need to know to fake your way through a conversation about Detroit Techno. Eric Iverson writes: For those not in the know, Cybotron released their first contributions to Detroit Techno in 1981--handily preceeding _Planet Rock_ and a host of other Electro Funk. They were also an active part of Detroit's radio and club scene. True, they didn't hit their stride until a couple years later when they would produce _Clear_ which finally sounds less like technopop and more like techno proper. By 1985, Atkins, May, and Saunderson had all firmly established themselves as recording artists. They will always credit Kraftwerk and Parliament as their inspiration. In fact Kraftwerk and Clinton have both, at times, claimed responsibility for the Detroit techno scene. Where was house? Could it have had an affect on Detroit techno? Sure! Was the affect as strong as late-70's Gary Numan or Ultravox's _Vienna_? Probably not! Kraftwerk's _Computer World_? Never! Cue 1987...House is happening in England and Derrick May arrives with his record _Strings of Life_. The stuff catches on. The Techno movement goes into full swing. Not only do the "Holy trinity" have techno for UK consumption, but so do a bevy of others...Blake Baxter, Eddie Fowlkes, Kenny Larkin, Carl Craig, and more. All from the Detroit scene with roots that are clearly delineated. They didn't just pop up from the house scene, though obviously they benefited from it. Would they have existed without house? I think so. Would it sound different? Well, it already does sound different! Examples: Inner City: "Big Fun" Rhythim Is Rhythim: "Nude Photo" Further Listening: Various: 'Retro Techno/Detroit Definitive: Emotions Electric' (Network UK RETROCD1) Various: 'Techno One and Two: Electronic Dance' (Ten UK DIXCD 123) Derrick May: "The Innovator" c.3. Hardcore Techno: Where Detroit stuff is mainly a hybrid of European technopop and funk, your average Hardcore song seems to be a speed-metal tune played on Detroit-type instruments (although the TR-909 is the drum machine of choice). Hardcore Techno is easier to get up and hyped to than its Detroit counterpart. Hardcore has brought much of the metal crowd into dance music, and reconciled dance parties with the industrial crowd as well. Examples: Tresor Compilations Vol. 2 "Lock on Target" by Disintegrator [Industrial Strength] Industrial Strength Records Comp "Cosmic Trash" by DJ Dano [Mokum] Various: 'Turn Up the Bass: The House Party/The Ultimate Megamix 2' (Arcade Benelux 01 6720 61) (Weak mixing, but it contains one-to-two-minute sections of nearly 50 songs, giving perhaps the best overview of the hallmarks of the style available on a single disc) c.4. Techno/Rave: Techno as product. When people complain about "techno by the numbers," they usually mean Techno/Rave. This style is generally soft and accessible. You are much more likely to have a rap or other vocal in a Techno/Rave track than either a Detroit or Hardcore track. Examples include 2 Unlimited, the Smart E's, and recent efforts by the Shamen. What MC Hammer is to hip-hop, what Winger is to heavy metal, Techno/Rave is to Hardcore. Examples: The Shamen: "LSI" 2 Unlimited: "Twilight Zone" The Movement: "Jump" Further Listening: Various: 'The Ultimate Rave' (EMI/Virgin/PolyGram UK CDP 798641 2) Various: 'Rave 'til Dawn' (SBK K2-80070) d. Breakbeat Breakbeat is symbolized by the use of sped-up hip-hop beat samples. Very often reggae tunes and influence are brought in, to good effect too since most reggae is around 65-80bpm and most breakbeat techno about twice that. Breakbeat is very effective at getting the crowd moving, but its hypnotic effects are somewhat less. Eric Iverson wrote: If we were only going to rely upon sound as proof of descent then I would be ever so quick as to trace all minimal breakbeat to a song recorded in 1965 called _L.S.D_ by the Yardbirds ("Little Games Sessions & More" E2-98214, EMI). And I would trace all 4-measure repeating analog synth-riff rave tunes to an early '70s album, _The Wozard of Iz_ by Bernard Krause (out of print). Listen to either one and you'll hear the similarities. They will astound you! However, simply sounding alike is not enough. In the case of the Yardbirds, _L.S.D._ was not even released officially until 1992! It couldn't be the parent of breakbeat, despite its age! gsc1@Lehigh.EDU (geoffE) wrote: In regard to the heading on breakbeat...Two styles to breakbeat are emerging under the names, "Jungle" and "Darkside". Jungle breakbeat uses reggae samples on the tracks. Darkside is the brand new style of breakbeat that recently emerged out of the streets of London. It uses minor keys to create an erie feeling and horror/sci-fi samples or female vocal samples to add to its melodic feel. And now from London, Gus Lawrence, President of Reinforced Records, the most fluent and respected breakbeat label on the planet says, there is now the "breakbeat ballad". Again, it is dark sounding, but this time it uses vocals and is aimed at the audience around 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning, "when you start getting tired from all that dancing," said Lawrence. Now for some genre samples: Jungle: Johnny Jungle EP D.M.S. - "S.O.S." SL2 - "On A Ragga Tip" Phuture Assassins - "Roots N Future" DarK: Metalheads - "Terminator" Nasty Habits - "Here Come The Drums" Rufige Cru - "Darkrider" Ballad: Fabio - "Ghost In My Life" Acen - "Window In the Sky" e. Ambient The genre is very well described in Mike Brown's Ambient FAQ available from the ftp site. Basically ambient (or ambient house) is designed to lull your mind through more soothing rhythms and samples. Good Sample: The Orb: U.F.Orb (Big Life/Mercury 314 513 749-2) Amorphous Androgynous: Tales of Ephidrina (Astralwerks ASW 6101) Aphex Twin: Selected Ambient Works (R&S BE AMB CD 3922) f. Trance Very similar to both ambient and acid-house, trance is softer on the ears and body than most techno, but still keeps you dancing (unlike most ambient, where the effects are more profound if you SIT DOWN and listen). It's designed to try and take you, literally, into another world. Samples speak louder than words: Eden Transmission - "I'm So High" on Exist-Dance. GET IT NOW. "Stella" by Jam 'n Spoon (at least the non-ambient parts) Any of the "Trance" comps, or anything on Guerilla A variant (or sub-genre) of this is hardtrance, which is currently very popular in the underground all over Europe. Characteristics, higher beat (c. 150 bpm), compulsory 303 sounds and string layers. Good Examples: Almost anything on Harthouse label (Overboust, Progressive Attack, etc) Ramin: Vol III Sextant: Part of the Scene g. Tribal Tribal is denoted by exactly that - rhythm patterns and sounds which closely mimic Third-World and Native American and other "World Music" styles. The connection between modern-day raving and ancient musical and cultural rituals is thus established, and the dancer can be transported to a more primal self (in theory). Good samples: Studio X - Los Kings Del Mambo, 808 State - Reaper Repo h. Progressive This is the newest and least-well-defined genre; it's based less on sampling, less on wailing divas, and less on hip-hop culture, and more on authentic instruments, haunting melodies, and always around 120-125bpm. There's always a strong beat, and at times it resembles acid jazz. The appelation of "progressive" was given by a music magazine, so many people wouldn't call it that, but so far no other name has come to replace it, and it is fairly different from straight house. This is the most popular music at raves in San Francisco right now. : One could also say progressive house is "progressive" in that those who make it are trying to bring back more interesting musical arrangements with either more complex percussion or melody or both, whereas the trend in the last few years was to strip down the sound to a raw, minimal form. Good examples: "Cry Freedom" by Mombassa, "Mighty Ming" by Brother Love Dubs The Trance compilations vols. 1-3 Ritmo De Vidaa: Taboo Otaku: Percussion Obsession React 2 Rhythm: I Know you like it React 2 Rhythm: Intoxication D.O.P.: Groovy Beat Labels: Guerilla, Limbo, Soma, Hubba Hubba h. Deep House "Deep house is a style of house most prominently influenced by a combination of gospel and old chicago strictly house beats. Look for wailing divas (I love them!) spooky organs and that old chord progression that we know and love. Deep house never nods in techno's direction..ever.. Cuts to check out: Can't Trust Nobody - Sloppy Check out anything on Strictly Rhythm Records for a good taste of Deep house. The Shelter (The shelter club's theme song, I suppose?) Oh Oh Oh Oh ---- Ten City!!! Ten City is DEEP! Check out My Piece of Heaven!" And to close this "definitions" section: "My main point is that techno comes from somewhere. It was not invented in this scene, nor is it particularly new. One can easily get the impression from the omission of this fact that the contrary is true. Not only is it responsible to acknowledge origins/sources, but other people may want to explore the related types of music that they might not otherwise ever hear about." - Tahl Milburn, tahl@tfs.com You can get on the Twitch remix company mailing list - send mail to twitch@casa.stanford.edu. i. Sources You can also get DJ mix tapes from the following places: UK: Yaman Productions, PO Box 393 , Watford, Herts WD1 7JZ England USA: Ameba - 1732 Haight St. - 415-750-9368 Street Sounds - 7751 Melrose Ave. - (213) 651-0630 D.M.C. - 7621 1/2 Melrose Ave. - (213) 651-3520 Beat Non Stop - 7262 Melrose Ave. - (213) 930-2121 Prime Cuts - 7758 Santa Monica Blvd. - (213) 654-8251 Here are some addresses for record labels (more complete lists are available at the FTP site): Boy's Own Productions PO Box 1422, Chancellors House, Chancellors Road London W6 9SG, UK fax: + 44 81 968 8459 Djax Up records Po Box 2408, 5600 CK Eindhoven The Netherlands fax: 31 (0) 40 445 057 Eye Q Records / Harthouse Strahlenberger Str 125A, 6050 Offenbach/Main Germany fax: 069/800 33 36 Guerilla Records 130a Plough Road, London W10 6BL UK tel: + 44 81 964 1199 Hard Hands 32 Pall Mall Deposit, 124/128 Barblby Rd London W10 6BL Limbo / 23rd Precinct 23 Bath Street, Glasgow G2 1HU UK fax: + 44 41 353 3039 MFS Reichstagufer 4-5, 1080 Berlin Germany fax: 030 220 9218 Overdrive fax: frg (0) 6162 84918 Rephlex Records PO Box 2676 London N11 1AZ UK tel: + 44 81 361 0529 Rising High fax: +44 71 229 4061 Wonka St. Jacobsmarkt 75, 2000 Antwerpen Belgium fax: 03/226 20 30 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 DJing The art of DJing has come full swing in the world of the rave, where the DJ has replaced the live musician as the focal point for an event. The DJ is now regarded at the "conductor" of their "orchestra" of two turntables and a mixer (and maybe a sampler, but that's not necessary). The orchestra's "instruments" are the slabs of vinyl (or aluminum & plastic, in Pete Ashdown's case) that carry the basic grooves and melodies, and it's up to the DJ to ensure that the orchestra plays all their instruments in perfect sync and with a measure of continuity. The DJ must *know* their music, know where the breaks are, know the keys, know the BPM's, to make his/her set come out as perfect as possible. Anyone who says DJ'ing is just spinning records has never tried to do so. DJs often develop a following, and the level of devotion among some is something unseen since the Beatles. (Basically, if you have Garth playing at your event in San Francisco, you can ensure 2000 people will be there, even with VERY minimal flyering - the same holds for Barry Weaver or Doc Martin in LA, or Adam X on the East Coast) A file of collected net.wisdom w.r.t. mixing and such can be found on the FTP site at techno.stanford.edu under pub/raves/music/DJ/2.b.a.d.j. and the file pub/raves/music/DJ/djguide.laura (written by Laura La Gassa, laura@soda.berkeley.edu) If you are interested, check out the BPM mailing list, bpm-request@andrew.cmu.edu. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 4 Drugs/Smart drinks ***Please note: no one involved in the creation of this FAQ advocates*** ***the consumption of illegal substances at any time.*** Preface: The subject of drugs at raves is very controversial. One wonders whether the rave scene would have been more easily accepted by the public had the presence of drugs not been so high. Of course, many other wonder how raves could have ever come about without them. Drugs, like anything else in the world, are dangerous when used improperly. Please use caution if you do decide to use mind-altering substances, both legal and illegal. You owe it to yourself to gather info before making a choice regarding drugs. You have access to an incredible amount of information on the networks here. USE IT! The reason I am including drug info in the FAQ is not because I think drugs are a necessary part of a rave nor even a significant part of it, but because questions arise on the newsgroup frequently enough to warrant its inclusion. There is a whole newsgroup devoted to drugs - alt.drugs, and any and all questions about drugs at raves are probably more appropriate there than at alt.rave. This information is presented for informational purposes only. Please, if you decide to dose, please read up on and know exactly what you are taking and what the expected affects are. a) Smart drinks Smart Drinks are drinks made with nutrients that supply needed precursors and cofactors that your body uses to manufacture neurotransmitters, the chemical messengers that carry impulses in the brain. These neurotransmitters can frequently be depleted by heavy excercise, stress, stimulant drugs, or lack of sleep, and many people report that amino acid/vitamin combo "smart drinks" seem to help. For more info see the "smartdrinks" file on the FTP site. b) Ecstasy There is a LOT of worthwhile info to be gleaned from the FTP site at techno.stanford.edu, ftp.u.washington.edu, and alt.drugs. Go get it. But to breifly talk about Ecstasy: 1) NO, it does not drain your spinal fluid and the verdict on permanent brain damage is still not in. 2) While dosed, you should drink LOTS of water to stay hydrated, especially if dancing hard. 3) Yes, it is illegal. There is LOTS more to be said so go read those files NOW before you even think of trying it. c) LSD: Many of the same precautions for MDMA (Ecstasy) hold for LSD. In addition: 1) Make sure you are in a comfortable location, and a comfortable headspace: "set and setting" 2) Try dosing for the first time somewhere other than a rave, like at home, and try going to a rave completely clean the first time. Other than that, check out the LSD-FAQ and other info files. Oh, and there's NO STRYCHNINE IN LSD. d) Other drugs currently talked about: Ketamine, 2CB (also referred to as "Cloud 9" or "Nexxus" or "Zenith"), and GHB. Again, PLEASE do research on something before you pop it into your mouth. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5 The visuals Visual effects are one of the most important parts of the rave, but not always essential. Sometimes the best parties have only a strobe light, if even that much. On the other end of the spectrum are the 200-ft wide, screens drenched with projection, the 10-watt green lasers bouncing off the disco balls giving the effect of laser rain, the miles of fluorescent tubing, the computer graphics which can blow your mind away... it's a very large part of the "mindfuck" factor of raves. Live visuals have been used since the 60's at concerts, using overhead projectors and oil-and-water setups. Those are sometimes still used - and rotating color wheels in front of the projection beam can really add to the overall "trippyness". Strobes - $19.99 at yer local Radio Shack. Cheap, but effective. "Mind Machines" are seldom much more than small strobes with varying speeds that you wear inside glasses - but the effect of stroboscopic light near the refresh speed (or half your refresh speed, or a quarter, etc) of your eye can be quite hallucinatory. You could probably build your own Mind Machine for less than 10 dollars. For a brain machine buyers guyide ftp to asylum.sf.ca.us and look in the /mind-l/incoming directory for files tfebg*. Computer graphics - there are a couple of programs available as freeware over the net that would be right at home at a rave. MSDOS machines: Fractint - available as wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/msdos/graphics/frain*.zip This one is the premiere freeware fractal generation program. Get it at all costs. Acidwarp - available as techno.stanford.edu:/pub/raves/spirit/graphics/ aw406.zip. This is a fantastically trippy computer graphics program. Also available, somewhere out there, is dazzle.exe and o-my-god.exe, also in the trippy-oo-aah vein. Macintosh: Available via anonymous FTP at the site sumex-aim.stanford.edu in pub/info-mac/app size filename ---- -------- 99525 fractal-wizard-16.hqx 169237 ifs-fractal-movie.hqx (animated, apparently not very configurable) 78126 julias-dream-107.hqx (Julia sets only) 159806 mandel-zot-304.hqx (free) 624848 mandella-81.hqx (shareware $40) 98291 super-mandelzoom-106.hqx (public domain) 21453 wallpaper-for-the-mind-11.hqx The "big guys" all seem to really like Amigas - I see Digital Media truck them out at many raves I go to. "Video Toasters" and "Mindlights" are two additions for computers to fully integrate video. Various companies have sprung up developing "mindfuck" videos for raves - one amongst them being Hyperdelic Video. They combine everything from cartoons to computer graphics to video feedback, and edit them together in a frantic pace, often at 135 bpm so as to closely match the music. Sometimes they will bring in a live mixing board and edit the videos real-time. One other group, called Synergy Visuals (reachable through tgrant@netcom.com) simply bring a computer, a VCR, a Sharp projector, and a mixing board, and go wild combining custom-written and very trippy computer graphics with video of everything from old Batman TV episodes to Fred Astaire. Advances in projection technology have also helped bring the imagery to remote locations - a new single-tube projector from Sharp is extremely compact and lightweight and can be set up outside, just about anywhere. And Ikea and Sanyon reportedly make good models as well. If you are looking to arrange your own visuals for an event, I suggest you make ANOTHER trip to Radio Shack and pick up "The Mind's Eye", a fantastic collage of computer graphics, in the $25 range. Absolutely incredible looking. "Beyond the Mind's Eye" is also available. More videos: Media Magic - PO Box 598 Nicasio, CA. 94946 - fractal videos, posters, etc Dr. Devious/Prism - PO Box 1035, Endfield, Middlesex, UK 3Lux I, II & III - Stud!o K7, Kaisedamm 7, 1000 Berlin 15, GERMANY Also, some local contacts for lighting: Los Angeles - Ecstasy Effects (X-FX). Contact Brad Baker: (213) 467-3057 Milwaukee, WI - Ephex (poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu) 414.225.9397 fax414.347.0648 San Francisco - Weird Blinking Lights - 415-252-9234 Digital Media - 2-1645 East Cliff Drive, Santa Cruz, CA 95062 voxphone 408.476.8464 faxphone 408.479.4196 Books - "Cyberarts -- exploring art & technology" edited by Linda Jacobsen (Miller Freeman Inc, ISBN 0-87930-253-4) (other contacts from anywhere welcome) Fringaware: fringeware-request@wixer.bga.com "About building and modifying all kinds of stuff. And then some." Mind Machines: Send "SUBSCRIBE MIND-L " in the body of the message and nothing else to: LISTSERV@VM1.YORKU.CA Liquid Oil Projections - (thanks to Chris Beaumont, ) A widely available overhead projector may be used to project kinetic liquid projections.. :ambient effect.. Use a overhead projector with bottom lighting,preferably with a quartz-halogen lamp. Put a dimmer on the main power, and if you can, add a supplemetal fan to insure adequate ventilation. Mask off the edges of the stage, place the dishes (old glass clockfaces) on top (a small one in a larger one) and add the water and oil based dyes, usually just to the space between the two dishes. For oil dye, I use Keystone anilyne dyes, and for water, I use photo retouching colors.. 91% alcohol can be added to the water solutions to enable the water based liquids to become darker as they evaporate. For clear oil, of course clear mineral oil. With the colors,you'll learn less is more. Then you're ready to go, turn up the dimmer slightly and focus. Mask off the edges of the screen area, remembering to cover the edges of the screen-area as much as possible...Are your dyes ready? Then turn the overhead up and BLOB-O-RAMA!!!... Remember..easy does it... Good luck! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 Creating techno music a. E-quipment Roland produced a series of electronic instruments in the early 80's all with three character names. There's the 101 synth, the 303 bass line sequencer (popular for acid house), the 505 drum machine (the 505 is one of the first drum machines to use PWM samples for creation of drum sounds) there's a 707 drum machine and the 727 . the 727 features latin noises instead of the normal drum kit (miami sound machine uses a lot of 727 sounds. listen for them if you can stand it) the 808 drum machine has that big beautiful whooooommmmmm kick associated with early house (not to mention drippy sustained highhat noises and snares). the 909 is a midiable pounding drum machine, it kicks. it's used in hardcore techno; the majority of hardcore bands I've seen live have a simple 3 part setup, some sort of sampler workstation/sequencer hooked up to a 909 and then the 909 syncs the 303. some even bring a dat machine along for backing tracks. **** The Roland MC-202 is a microcomposer, which means that you can program songs into it. It saves to tape. It has sync and CV-gate but no MIDI. It makes some of the best bass sounds, comparable to nothing. It produces a rounder sound than the 303 (which is a bit squelchy) and the 101 (which is a bit noisy). N-Joi and The Prodigy have stuff use the 202. (N-Joi used it in their "Live in manchester" album. They say "marky on the bassline", and it goes, BBBommeee. And The Prodigy used it in the bassline of "Everybody's in the Place.") **** well the basic set-up is any computer that can be plugged into some drivers including keyboard, drum machine, sampler, sequencer, and fm modulators. NeXTS and Macs seem to be the choice, although the new atari falcon (believe it or not) is going to kick, largely because it has dedicated sound and video chips, so the cpu can be used for everything else. i could go on, and i will if you want - here's a list of products korg wave station yamaha sy77 and sy99 roland 808 (hence 808 state's name) the M-1 the prophet (going back to kraftwerk) hey - i'll just go check the midi studio i do my work in. software by opcode programming language for non graphic writing: lisp, and or c. **** cheap means: $14.99 at target. this can also be found at your favorite toy store. it is called a voice changer. it is like a megaphone, but you have three different switches on it: alien, ghost, and robot. the alien is a pitch up and down with robotic distortion the ghost is a pitch up with the robotic distortion the robot is a pitch down with the robotic distortion. resembles the cylon out of battlestar galatica. i am surprised i found this this cheap. >> LOADS OF FUN!!! i am taking all of the handles and the cheesy plastic case off and just utilizing the circuitry to make my mixer w/built in effects. with a robot effect on a 909, guess what pounds the fuck out of your head god, it is amazing.... sines **** > taylor and i are having fun devising new and fucked ways of wiring this to > that and applying this thing to that, etc\ Cool, maybe you two can come over to my place and figure out how to get my EPS to talk SCSI to my Macintosh. > we are interested to hear about what you are doing in your > bedroom too. I do most of my music stuff in my garage. What happens in my bedroom is my own business. As far as music equipment goes, the best investment I've made in the past year was in an Emu Procussion -- the ultimate drum machine. It has tons of drum sounds, from heavy metal to jazz to house to techno to tribal, with very flexible programming capabilities. (And it's midi too.) My second-best investment was in Alchemy, which has an incredibly useful constant-pitch time-shifting feature. i.e. You can take a 90 bpm drum loop and speed it up to 130 bpm without changing its pitch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 7 Other rave-related mailing lists (for discussion about upcoming events, etc. Some lists can be VERY chatty) and resources. a. Regional lists: San Francisco and the Bay Area: majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu Send mail with the words "subscribe sfraves" (list admin: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu) Weekly calendar-only version available North/East United States: majordomo@techno.stanford.edu Send mail with the words "subscribe ne-raves" (This location is temporary) (list admin: cutter@bronze.lcs.mit.edu) Weekly calendar-only version available Southern California: socal-raves-request@ucsd.edu include "add
socal-raves" in your message. (list admin: jvance@einstein.oac.uci.edu) Weekly calendar-only version available United Kingdom - uk-dance@orbital.demon.co.uk (to get on, send mail to listserv@orbital.demon.co.uk, with the line 'subscribe uk-dance ', with your real name, not your e-mail address.) South-East Raves - send mail to listserv@american.edu, with the words SUB SERAVES (your name). District of Columbia Raves - send mail to listserv@american.edu, with the words SUB DCRAVES (your name). Australia Raves - owner-ausrave@ansto.gov.au Florida - mail flraves-request@cybernet.cse.fau.edu Mid-West US - mail mw-raves-request@engin.umich.edu Montreal - Raving Up North: cism@ere.umontreal.ca Northwest US - nw-raves-request@wimsey.bc.ca Pittsburgh/Cleveland raves - pb-cle-raves-request@telerama.pgh.pa.us University of Maryland-centric: mail cyberpun@wam.umd.edu KLF/Orb & related : klf-request@asylum.sf.ca.us (list admin: lazlo@triton.unm.edu) b. BPM list - for discussions about DJ'ing, mixing, music, etc. bpm-request@andrew.cmu.edu c. USENET newsgroups: alt.rave - for discussions about the rave scene ALL OVER THE WORLD rec.music.synth - more exact information about how to create electronic music d. Alt.rave Image Sites: There are rave-related images available via anonymous FTP at the following locations: archive for: alt.rave site: cs.uwp.edu (Dave Datta's Music Archives) directory: /pub/music/pictures/a/alt.rave archive for: alt.rave site: sfraves.stanford.edu directory: pub/raves/images Note: all .gif files will be converted to JPEG if it makes them smaller. Most files here are in .jpg format, but can be retreived from the site as .gif files if you wish. e. Australian rave FTP site: elecsun4.elec.uow.edu.au in /pub/ausrave in the /graphics and /audio. There's nothing really in there at the moment tho... f. KLF info archives are available at asylum.sf.ca.us, under pub/klf. g. If you are on a machine that supports outbound telnet, then do this: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283 This should kick you into the online Virtual Rave (assuming the system is up, of course). The site has seen a LOT of action recently.... it's basically just a chat system, but you don't need a client to run it. The Vrave mailing list: to mail to the list, mail to: v-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu to mail to the list owner, mail to: owner-v-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu to request add or drop, mail to: v-raves-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu to help me use the list the way i designed it, mail to: gts@gnu.ai.mit.edu h. Discographies can be found at cs.uwp.edu. Of particlar interest to alt.rave readers are the Moby discography, the Aphex Twin discography, and the KLF/Orb discography. Also, there are many discographies for independent record labels on the FTP site on techno.stanford under pub/raves/music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 8 Techno music stores thanks to mw@sybase.COM liquidx@cnexus.cts.com EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu mikes@eta.rice.edu jrice@atss.calstatela.edu Frederick.Wolf@um.cc.umich.edu bb2j+@andrew.cmu.edu dt25+@andrew.cmu.edu hogg@tapir.Caltech.EDU PLUI%IOSSVR.gm@hac2arpa.hac.com mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu wxw@sv020.torreypinesca.NCR.COM laura@usl.com bclevela@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu Antwerp - USA Import, St Jacobsmarkt 75, 2000 Antwerp, (03) 232.04.29 Atlanta, GA - Let The Music Play - (404) 321-7746 Baltimore, Maryland - Modern Music (410) 523-1882 Boston, MA - Boston Beat - 80 Bennington St - (617) 561-4790 Boulder, Colorado - Wax Trax - 303.831.7246, 303.831.1402 or 303.939.8658 Brunswick, NJ - Planet X - (908) 249-0304 Brooklyn, NY - Groove Records - 64 Avenue U - (718)-714-5232 Brussels - City Records Vinyl Shop - (02) 428.52.03 USA Import - (02) 279.66.98 Cincinnati, OH - Culture 7 - (513) 821-7783 Chicago, IL - Gramaphone - (312) 477-5354 Columbus, Ohio - world record, 1980 n high st 2nd fl, 614.297.7900 Dallas, Texas - Autobahn Records - (214) 522-4674 Detroit, MI - Recordtime-Records and Tapes - 313-775-1550. Duluth, Georgia - The Remix Warehouse - 2180 Pleasant Hill Road, Suite A-5168 - 30136-4663 - (orders 1-800-241-MIXX) Holland - Black Beat - Niewendijk 104 - 1012 Mr Amsterda 31 20 638 4252 Houston, Texas - noo beat 713-526-6544 sound+ 713-520-7323 London, England - Zoom Records - 188 Camden High Street, London NW1 UK Black Market - 25 D'Arblay St, Soho, London W1 UK Catch-A-Groove - 94 Dean St, Soho, London W1V 5RB 44 71 494 0208 Fat Cat - 14 Monmouth St, Covent Garden, London WC2 44 71 497 1359 23rd Precint - 23 Bath Street, Glasgow, G2 1HU, 44 41 332 4806 Unity Records - 47 Beak Street, London W1R 3LE 44 71 734 2746 Los Angeles, CA - Street Sounds - 7751 Melrose Ave. - (213) 651-0630 D.M.C. - 7621 1/2 Melrose Ave. - (213) 651-3520 Beat Non Stop - 7262 Melrose Ave. - (213) 930-2121 Prime Cuts - 7758 Santa Monica Blvd. - (213) 654-8251 Record Reaction - 3226 East Broadway, Long Beach - 1-800-362-3735 Milwaukee, WI - Innovative R. S. - poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu - 414.225.9397 New Orleans, LA. - Spice Records (on Edenborn) New Brunswick, NJ - Planet X - 308 George Street 908-249-0304 Pittsburgh, PA - Turbo-Zen Records - 128 Oakland Ave - (412) 621-7759 Portland, Oregon - Turntable Mary's - (503) 227-3933 Roseville, MI - Record Time - 313-775-1550 "The 'official' +8 distributor." Sacramento - The Beat - (916) 736-0147 San Bruno, CA - ULTRASOUNZ records @ 482 san mateo ave. - 415-871-4170 San Diego, CA - AC&S Dance Music Center, 665 H Street Suite B Chula Vista, CA 91910 (619) 476-1212 Voice (619) 476-1303 FAX Off the Record - 3849 5th Ave. - (619) 298-4755 San Jose, CA - Underground Records - 408.286.8303 San Francisco, CA - BPM - 1141 Polk St., SF - 415-567-0276 Tweakin' - 593 Haight Street (@ Steiner) - 415-626-6995 Star Alley - 322 Linden Street - (415) 552-3017 Sydney, Australia - Central Station Records - 48 Oxford St - Darlinghurst 2010 Reach'n Records - Crown St - Darlinghurst 2010 Disco City - 314 Crown St - Darlinghurst 2010 Toronto, Ontario - The CD Bar - 281 Queen St. W. - (416) 977-6863 Play De Record - 357A Yonge Street - 416 586 0380 B's Wax, 539 Queen St. West, (416)504-0613 Starsound, 427 Yonge St., (416)977-0525 Vancouver, BC - Odyssey Imports - 534 Seymour St. - (604) 669-6644 Rhythm Zone - 537 W. Pender - (604) 682-8144 Washington, DC - Twelve Inch Dance - (202) 659-2010 Music Now - (202) 638-3272 Oh, and give Dave Steinhart of Ear/Rational a try, at ear-rational@xmission.com.. He can get *anything* it seems. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 10 Rave/Techno print media Dance Music Report 636 Broadway, Suite 804, New York, NY 10012 (212)677-6770 Dataflow PO Box 187, London SW192JJ (Lee Newman & Michael Wells aka GTO) DJ 4th floor, Centro House, Mandela St London NW1 0DU 071-387 3848 DJ Times 25 Willowdale ave, Port Washington, NY 10050 DMA 7943 Paxton Ave, Tinley Park, IL 60477 eDEN 171 Rue Lafayette, 75010 Paris, France (In French.) Global Techno Power 2030 Grand River, Suite 303 Detroit MI 48226 313 963 0509 Matrix 600 River Place #6632 Detroit MI 48207-5026, semite@aol.com MixMag P.O. Box 89, Slough,Berks, SL18 NA, NY NY 10012 MixMag N.Y. 666 Broadway, Ste 3, NY NY 10012 MOVE 100 W. Livingston St, Orlando, FLA 32801 FAX(407)339-4507 Project X 37 West 20th Street Suite #1007, NYC, NY 10011 STOMP! Magazin Im Weidenbruch 3, 5000 Koln 80, Deutschland Streetsound 174 Spadina Ave, Lewiston, NY 14092 Tech 17 #101 - 1265 Dogwood Cres, North Vancouver BC V7P 1H2 CANADA Under One Sky 2249 E. 21 St., Apt. 4F, Brooklyn, NY 11229 URB magazine 1680 North Vine St #1012, Hollywood, CA 90028 213-993-0291 urbmag@netcom.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 11 Throwing your own parties For those of you out there who have LOTS of spare time and energy, the idea of throwing your own parties has probably crept into your head. As a service to this, I have set up a directory on the techno.stanford.edu FTP site called "holdyourown", which I hope to fill with stories of people who throw or help throw parties, chock full of tips and advice. Please take the time to look through them. In particular I've put up a guide to finding renegade sites and throwing the parties, more a collection of advice I've added up in almost a year of throwing outdoor renegade events, including helping with the Full Moon raves in San Francisco. These are my *favorite* types of parties, and the thrill of throwing a successful party and making people's lives better even if only for a night is truely wonderful. THIS is what raving is about :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 13 Appendix I - true Frequently-Asked-Questions - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - a. Who cut the disc with the samples: "Did I dream... you dreamed about me?" "Did I dream... you dreamed about me?" AND: Richard Dawson (from "the Running Man" '87 schwartzenegger flick) saying: "IT'S TIME TO START RUNNING!" ANSWER: "Temple of Dreams" by Messiah The vocal samples are from This Mortal Coil - Song to the Siren and there are also Bronski Beat samples. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - b. Question: I like The Orb, and I keep hearing about a band called Orbital. Are they related? Will I like Orbital's music? Answer: No and not neccessarily, respectively. Orbital are Paul and Phil Hartnoll (brothers), who have no connection whatsoever with The Orb. As far as I know, no collaborations or remix projects have taken place between the two. Should your local record store tell you that Orbital are The Orb's dance badge (I heard it said once) beat them around the head with a suitable record deck. Orbital's music is not ambient in The Orb sense, nor is it really techno or house. Some put them under the progressive-house label, but they seem to be one of those bands that don't fit in a pigeonhole. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - c. "I need CD compilation suggestions!" Please FTP over to techno.stanford.edu under /pub/raves/music. Enough there to bust H. Ross Perot's Gold Card, including Pete Ashdown's excellent XDZebra series. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - d. Guru (mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk) is NOT Guru Josh. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - e. QUESTION: What are the songs played in the club scene in 'Basic Instinct'? Answer: "Rave the Rhythm" by Channel X, Available on the following compilations: 'Techno Sonic Vol. 1,' Sonic Records 'The Second Chapter,' XL Recordings UK and "Blue" by LaTour, Available on their eponymous album, the "Cold" CD single, and the compilation 'Big Hard Disk vol. 1' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - f. > Along those lines, does anybody have a track listing for > Analogue Bubblebath 3? I just got it today, and I love it, > but then again, the hard stuff turns me on just as much as > the ambient stuff.... AFX (Aphex Twin) - Analogue Bubblebath 3 CD tracks: 12" tracks: ========================== ============================= 1 4:16 .215061 1 4:16 .215061 2 5:43 .1993841 2 4:31 .000890569 3 3:45 .0180871a 3 0:38 .38 4 4:31 .942937 4L 3:45 .0180871a \____recorded as 1 track 5 4:10 .0180871b 4R 4:10 .0180871b / on separate channels 6 4:31 .000890569 7 4:18 .5527803773258 5 4:18 .55278037732581 8 Untitled (Fluted) 6 4:31 .942937 9 Untitled (SS) 7 5:43 .1993841 10 0:31 AFX 6/b 8 0:31 AFX 6/b 11 Untitled (BE) 12 Untitled (Shower beats) 13 Untitled (Spectrum beats) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ g. >I was at a rave 2 weeks ago when the dj played a rave version of the >Beatles' song HEY JUDE. I don't know if the dj was mixing or if this >rave version exits on CD somewhere. Does anyone know if this is >available anywhere on CD or cassette? The initial release, on black vinyl with a red label, was released initally to dance specialty stores, but Michael Jackson's music publishing business, which owns the rights to the Beatles catalog, heard about it and demanded they be pulled. These original 12"'s have garnered as much as $100 in trade. A bootleg was released a short time later, called "Jude on a Ragga Tip" (for the song is really just someone with a good sense of timing playing both "Hey Jude" and "On a Ragga Tip" by SL2, with MBM samples thrown in) and was backed with "How Does it Feel?" by Electroset (a song which eventually did get official permission for its sampling of "Blue Monday"). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ h. >whats that song that goes "i neeeeeeeed your lovin, like the sunshiiiine" "I Need Your Lovin'" by NRG. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ i. > Should restaurants provide free water? Yes, and so should raves. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ j. What's the difference between the single-CD US version of 'The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld' and the double-CD UK version? A. Kiyan Azarbar wrote: > I just asked a guy to order Adventures for me, and he said that he could > get it on UK import and it might be cheaper. Turns out it's $34 CDN, but > he said that was for the Adventures Double CD. I ordered it, but is there > really a double CD with more tracks than the Adventures that I've seen? > Is anything missing from it? How many tracks? (From the KLF/Orb FAQ:) The original UK release of the album has four tracks that don't appear on the American version: 14:15 Back Side Of The Moon 15:06 Spanish Castles In Space 9:30 Perpetual Dawn 8:10 Star 6 & 7 8 9 The first two tracks are deleted entirely on the US release, while the latter two appear in remixed versions (both of which also appear in slightly longer versions on the US CD5 for "Perpetual Dawn"): 3:48 Perpetual Dawn (solar youth mix - edit) 4:23 Star 6 & 7 8 9 (phase ii - edit) The changes in tracking for the album's US release were made by Alex Paterson under pressure from Mercury Records, who didn't believe that the full two-disc version was marketable in the United States. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ k. >The vocal to this song goes "high as a mountain... that's where I >wanna be... listen to the echo.." > >Anyone know what it's called. I used to a hear Garth play it a bunch. this is a very old song, all the way from 1987. my record says: colm iii - you take me high 12" ruby red records-uk (12 ltd 444) a1 mansion mix b1 (i guess the original version) -- (chris.hilker) cspot@cats.ucsc.edu "We feel affinities not only with the past, but also with the futures that didn't materialise, and with the other variations of the present that we suspect run parallel to the one we have agreed to live in." -Brian Eno ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 13:46:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: OUTLAW 0212 (update) ***************************************************** FROM THE FOLKS @ OUTLAW This Saturday February 12th @ Light, Wisdom and Sound 229 W28th Street Between 7th & 8th DJ Line up (revised 2/12) MOBY - TRANCE - JOESKI - OSHI JASON JINX - LARRY T - ODI JOE JOE - DB - SOUL SINGER Production by Total Solutions Trippy Video by The Neuronautic Institute Lighting by Woof for Psychcyberaidient "....the testing never stops" Neuronoutic Institute -woof for (N)octurnal (A)udio (S)ensory (A)wakening ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 13:56:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "David A. Wolfe" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "David A. Wolfe" Subject: OUTLAW info line Sorry 212-330-8233 -woof ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 17:34:51 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... Question peoples... I want to enlarge my rather meager collection of Techno on CD. Any sugestions? As to now I have This is Techno V. 1&4, Quadrophonia's Cozmic Jam, and Rave till Dawn. Is this a fair representation of Techno? Am I fooling myself thinking I like Techno? Just curious. PLUR, ApOcAlYpSe _WWW_ /(O O)\ ================oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 16:56:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... (fwd) Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 879 Matt wrote- I think that my fave in my collection would have to be either Rave 'Til Dawn, or Lords of Acid's "Lust". They are both very good. I just got Quadrophonia's "Cosmic Jam" two weeks ago and I am pretty disappointed. Most of the disc lacks the energy that the song "Quadrophonia" from Rave 'til Dawn has. Anyway...I also have "Speed Limit 140+ BPMs" volumes 1 and 2. I like v.1 a lot, but v.2 is pretty weak. I have Tresor 2 and that's pretty good, albeit a little *too* monotonous. Some good songs though. I have Technomancers 1, 2, and 3. and they are pretty good also. I have been trying to find a comp called "Most Wanted V.1" but have had NO luck at all finding it. My radio station has it, but I have never even seen it in a store. It's very good. Can anyone point me in the right direction?? Thanks. -Matt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 17:25:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: spring my pride (cat-style) In-Reply-To: <199402120753.CAA08206@umd5.umd.edu> Kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU, filled with love, wrote: > PPS. I have met Dante, if someone would fracture his skull i will > award you with cash. nice... chris ----------------CATS MEOW---------------- | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 17:37:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: spring my pride (cat-style) In-Reply-To: <199402122231.RAA22917@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 12 Feb 1994, secret agent mellow wrote: > > PPS. I have met Dante, if someone would fracture his skull i will > > award you with cash. > nice... > chris Oh, dont worry about Kreig. Just a mild case of penis envy.. :Dr flu'id ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 17:07:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199402122158.QAA20972@umd5.umd.edu> > I think that my fave in my collection would have to be either Rave 'Til > Dawn, or Lords of Acid's "Lust". They are both very good. I just got These two recordings should be blasted from the face of the earth, IMHO of course. What to buy? depends on what you're looking for. Look out for the newish +8 comp, Warps Aritificial Intelligence comp, Rephlex's Philosophy of Sound and Machine comp, Tales of Ephidrena by Amorphous Androgenous, Surfin on Sine Waves by Polygon Window, Dimension Intrusion by Fuse, Ginger by Speedy J, Tango 'n Vectif by Mu-Ziq, the new Vapourspace, and Reloads collection of short stories. flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 18:08:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Techno CD's (was What to Buys?) Since I don't have a record player and haven't invested yet in one (the day will come I believe :) ), I 've been purchasing cd's of techno. Rule #1: Unfortunately, the more expensive, the likelier it is the cd is better :( Not a hard & fast rule-- Prototype 909's Acid Technology blew me away, and it was priced in the lower 10's... Thanks Taylor!!! Here's what I have and wot it is... 1) Spiral Tribe EP: Forward the Revolution Great, undefinable Spiral Tribe trax...wierd, innovative and very unique techno 2) Spiral Tribe EP: Breach the Peace More of the same :) :) :) 3) Spiral Tribe Techno Terra EVEN MORE OF THE DELICIOUS SAME :) :) :) :) 4) Lenny Dee Presents Trax from the Darkside A really good, mixed CD with a great progression of themes & bpm's throughtout it's 80 minutes or so..I got it through Todd Poepping;s IRS-- A GREAT SOURCE OF CD's!! 5) Suck Plasma Megamix II A 15 minute mix CD with some snippets from great trax-- again, great progression throughout the cd. 6) Frankfurt Trax: Hall of Fame FUCKING HARDCORE :) :) :) :) 7) Sound of Rotterdam: Hardcore Will Never Die EVEN MORE FUCKING HARDCORE :) Actually, this is the best hardcore comp i've ever found. Rotterdam Records kix head :) 8) Mayday A 2-cd set featuring songs from the Mayday '93 rave in Germany...a great mix of techno, not too hard, not too ambient, not too trancey 9) Plastikman Great stuff, but I don't know where to classify it...kinda acidey, perhaps?? 10) TB Ressucitator Beautiful theme & tempo progressions in the cd. not hardcore, but kinda like hardish acidey techno :) I'm not in my room now--so these are the CD's stuck in my head :) oops---forgot Aphex Twin Collected Ambient Works and Surfing on a Sine Wave-- some of th best ambient I've heard! Todd Poepping is a great source of hard-to-find cd's (no, I don't work for him :) I'm jsut a satisfied customer :) Peace Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:42:42 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Thanks! was: Techno CD's (was What to Buys?) I'm wasn't sure weather it was worth cluttering people's buffer with this, but decided what the hell. You guys and gals as a whole (The NE-Ravers) are THE most helpful and quick to respond of any list I have ever been a part of. I just wanted to thank you :) Thanks and PLUR, Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 19:21:51 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... (fwd) Um... I'm inclined to agree with flu'id.... blast em :) Also, it's pretty hard to find good dance music on cd since all the best stuff comes out on vinyl...but a few recommendations to add to flu'id's list: 4th Sign by C J Bolland, Orbital 1 and 2 by Orbital , any 808 State stuff (well, I still like and respect them), Future Sound of London's Accelerator, The Movement (yes, I am joking),... I don't know.. there's too much stuff out there, but like I said, all my faves are on vinyl... peace. later. <<>kyle<>> kherlihy@center.colgate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:06:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: graphics???? Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 232 In the FAQ, there are two MSDOS progs that are listed. I went to the sites, and looked for the directories that are written, but they don't even exist. Anyone know where i can get FRACTINT and/or ACIDWARP now??? Thanks -Matt ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 00:49:55 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: graphics???? In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 12 Feb 1994 21:06:19 -0500 > In the FAQ, there are two MSDOS progs that are listed. I went to the > sites, and looked for the directories that are written, but they don't > even exist. Anyone know where i can get FRACTINT and/or ACIDWARP now??? If you have gopher folks, use it! it makes searching for files a LOT easier. Not only is the alt-rave FAQ outdated but on top of that, the techno.stanford.edu site seems to be under a bit of construction and improvement. A bit of poking around today provided the following info: in the /pub/raves/visuals/graphics/pc directory, you can find: 1. Stereogram programs/ 2. aw406.zip (Acidwarp 4.06: VGA color-cycling) 3. dazzle50.zip (Dazzle 5.0 VGA color-cycling) 4. flasher.zip (VGA LED-"brain machine" simulator) 5. frain181.zip (Fractint 18.1 MS-DOS fractal generator) 6. hyper.zip (more color-cycling) 7. lava4win.zip (Windows plasma-fractal-like generator) 8. maelstrm.arj (SVGA color-cycling) 9. mindwarp.zip (VGA color-cycling) 10. orb-ss.scm (Orb screen saver module for Screen Craze) 11. orb-ss.txt (info about Orb screen saver module). 12. vgaart.arj (VGA art) there are also directories for the Apple Macintosh: 1. Color_Orb_PICS.sea.hqx (Mac screen pic: requires AfterDark) 2. Electric-Girl.cpt (Mac desktop pic: requires DeskPict extensi.. 3. CyberPort_2.0.cpt. 4. 3ddots1.1.cpt.hqx (Stereogram generator) as well as for the Amiga computer and XWindows. If you would like to view some fo the scanned pictures in JPEG format, get yourself a viewer under: pub/raves/visuals/picutils Unfortunately, the Macintosh JPEG viewer is not up to date. The latest version is JPEG View 3.1 and can be found at sumex-aim.stanford.edu as info-mac/grf/util/jpeg-view-31.hqx and the latest version of Quicktime is needed to use it. It can be found at bric-a-brac.apple.com as /dts/mac/sys.soft/quicktime/quicktime-1-6-1.hqx Brian! can you put this new JPEG View up on the site and maybe a pointer to the apple ftp site for Quicktime? Chris! will the next alt-rave FAQ reflect all these new additions/changes? Hope this helps folks & thanks goes out to Brian for maintianing the site and to chris/cspot for keeping the FAQ. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 03:24:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: FTP psycho I'm having the craziest fuckin time trying to FTP on this bitch.. I get to the right directory and do a " "get" command and the filename but never receive any files or sign of modem action... Somebody help me out please before I commit some major sinz.. Speed Demon ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 03:28:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Out-of-country mailing lists Anyone know the addresses of any mailing lists in Germany, U.K., Holland, etc...that deal with techno and/or raves??? Much mackadocious appreciationz... - S.D. - S.A. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 01:42:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: Techno CD's (was What to Buys?) In-Reply-To: <199402122321.SAA27042@umd5.umd.edu> "Terence R. Strick" writes: > better :( Not a hard & fast rule-- Prototype 909's Acid Technology blew > me away, and it was priced in the lower 10's... Thanks Taylor!!! yeah, that was a super deal.. found a copy here for $9! oh joy ren! > 9) Plastikman Great stuff, but I don't know > where to classify it...kinda > acidey, perhaps?? how about 'another guy banging on the same old machines, occasionally coming up with some really great stuff but generally coming off as far from where he wants to be, which is on the same level as richard james'? :-) actually, it's ok. it's acidey/ambient IDM. it _does_ have some parts that are wayyyy too long minimalist things that sound like what they are, a guy playing the same pattern over and over on a 909. when he gets going he gets going tho. > Todd Poepping is a great source of hard-to-find cd's (no, I don't work for > him :) I'm jsut a satisfied customer :) so how do we get in touch with said dude? :-) -Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 01:34:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199402122308.SAA25367@umd5.umd.edu> Courtney Lyon Scott writes: > > I think that my fave in my collection would have to be either Rave 'Til > > Dawn, or Lords of Acid's "Lust". They are both very good. I just got > > These two recordings should be blasted from the face of the earth, IMHO > of course. What to buy? depends on what you're looking for. Look out for > the newish +8 comp, Warps Aritificial Intelligence comp, Rephlex's > Philosophy of Sound and Machine comp, Tales of Ephidrena by Amorphous > Androgenous, Surfin on Sine Waves by Polygon Window, Dimension Intrusion > by Fuse, Ginger by Speedy J, Tango 'n Vectif by Mu-Ziq, the new > Vapourspace, and Reloads collection of short stories. well, of course, one could argue that these typify idm and ambient styles, and LOA and the (in)famous Rave Till Dawn discs typify the (somewhat dated) techno style from back in the days when techno was techno, and not one of a thousand categorically defined styles. while i must say i listen much more to stuff on your suggested listenings list nowadays, Lords of Acid tracks still are the shit to me. They're perfect examples of great _dance_ tracks. Personally, I find most "Intelligent Dance Music" great to listen to, but pretty damn far from _dance_ music. :-) - dan, who probably will be mocked for thinking oldskool techno tracks are the shit, but doesn't care because i'm bigger and bolder and rougher and tougher, in other words sucker turn on the sweat machine and move my body because charlie says meow and i can move move move any mountain. shit golly gosh darn. of course most of the tracks i'm writing now are IDM :) |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 11:42:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Pete Bastien Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Pete Bastien Subject: Re: graphics???? In-Reply-To: <199402130553.AAA18578@umd5.umd.edu> from "WILL-E" at Feb 13, 94 00:49:55 am I copied the lava4win.zip, and installed it under windows but it does not work. The window for lava open, and is white and remains white. The desktop however has some very light snow. Only the desktop has the snow, everything else displays normally. I've never seen this type of problem before. Another long standing problem that I have, is that I'm unable to get a screen capture to work with AcidWarp. Has anyone had success with this? Pete ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 11:54:01 -0500 Reply-To: Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: Techno CD's (was What to Buys?) In-Reply-To: <199402131124.GAA24482@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Feb 1994, Dan Nicholson wrote: > > 9) Plastikman Great stuff, but I don't know > > where to classify it...kinda > > acidey, perhaps?? > > how about 'another guy banging on the same old machines, occasionally > coming up with some really great stuff but generally coming off as far from > where he wants to be, which is on the same level as richard james'? :-) Rather unfair I think. Personally, I thought Plastikman was fairly innovative, particularly tracks like Spastik, as the realm of ambient acid isn't explored too often. There need be no comparison to Richard James as Richie is just as recognized is his own way. Besides, the two are great friends and the idea of a joint +8/Rephlex project was being kicked around for a while. :flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 12:43:30 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: >Skreem< Deadlines Hey all! Just incase you don't kno.. Anybody that wants to contribute to the next issue must have their articles in by the end of next week (the week that starts this Monday) or at the _LATEST_ by Feb. 21, the first Monday. If you have any problems with the deadline, drop me an e-mail quick! Enough of my bossing! Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 12:38:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rishad J. Quazi" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Subject: Re: graphics???? In-Reply-To: <199402130209.VAA07853@umd5.umd.edu>; from "RUSH fan" at Feb 12, 94 9:06 pm > In the FAQ, there are two MSDOS progs that are listed. I went to the > sites, and looked for the directories that are written, but they don't > even exist. Anyone know where i can get FRACTINT and/or ACIDWARP > now??? > > Thanks > > -Matt > hi matt, try looking the SIMTEL20 archives: ftp 128.252.135.4 and try looking inthe directory: /msdos/mirrors/graphics i'm not sure if acidwarp is there, but fractint should be. peace, O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 16:21:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: Midi Guitar..... if anyone is interrested, i have a midi guitar for sale, email me for info: kumquat@acs.bu.edu thanks...... sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 16:47:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: TIMEWARP 2 MAKEUP Hello brothers and sisters, Sorry that I was unable to get on the net Friday to tell of the cancellation. but all the academic buildings were closed at Lehigh and I was out of luck. Thanks to those who passed the word. Now, on the makeup date. It was suppossed to be Friday, MArch 11, with the same line-up. However, Special K Productions in Philly said they were putting an event on called KICKING. SO we said we would put it on Saturday, MArch 12. Of course I notice on Rave-O-Matic that there are two events that night, one in sister city Poughkeepsie and the other in Baltimore. Now I don't know what to say but the makeup date stands unless otherwise noted. THE EVENT IS SCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, MARCH 12!!! Line-up has not changed and will include the 3 rooms and the original line-up of Joey Beltram, Trace, Mars, geoffE, Ikon, DB, Scott Henry, Remic, Mark M, Miko, Ursol and Lazlo. New flyers are being printed up and keep an eye out on the net. Also, call (610)433-0503 to keep up to date. Gee, it's so hard to be a promoter, Peace, geoffE GSC1@Lehigh.Edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 17:37:57 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: thanks and more hey* thanks all for the response to my mind boggling plur and roar questions... i am a complete man now... but, i must complain, because, well, i need to...sorry to be so bitchy, but... dante sucked. i went to the loft on friday(boston) hoping to get some good dancin' in for the week, cuz that's my fix. but to my dismay, i entered a world of 70s rock and bad disco...at the loft. i mean, i don't hate that genre of music, but if i wanted to hear it, i'd head over to venus on 70s night. i want my breaks! i look at it this way...i was born in '73 to MISS this era of dance music. i love where it is GOING TO. sure, i like the old, but it should be a level that we build on, i guess a "foundation" sorta, ya know? i was just expecting something good, not disco. i mean there were people on the dance floor holding their fingers in their ears because some of it was so harsh. some djs can mix 70s awesome-ly into their set...but a whole set of it? i couldn't deal. all i know is that i won't go anywhere that dante will be spinning. (am i overreacting?) if anyone knows of other djs that have this style, please warn me of such craziness. this is how i feel, and i don't mean to cut anyone down(well, except dante...it could've been a shorter set) if it doesn't move me, it just doesn't move me, ya know? well, i would love to hear what others thought of it, if anyone else went. and feel free to bitch back at me, maybe i'll realize something about this music that i totally missed. later now " ~ harrrrrrrrrrrrrrry ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 17:47:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: thanks and more In-Reply-To: <199402132240.RAA18146@umd5.umd.edu> dante spins funky house. plain and simple. sure, he mixes in the occasional old disco or, whatever you want to call it, song but i always found these to be just fer fun. i seriously *doubt* that he did a whole set of old songs (old meaning older than a year or two at the most). i wasn't at the loft, but i was at venus on thursday and he spun fun fun stuff in my view. and it was *new* music, or relatively new in the eyes of techno people. so please stop saying that he spins "disco" and "old rock songs". :) i guess this is just yet another case of a breakbeat fan complaining when they don't hear breaks. :) :) chris ----------------CATS MEOW---------------- | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 18:52:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? Fellow brothers and sisters, I just talked to Trace who spun up at Outlaw last night in NYC(anybody go?) and he tells me that DB is trying to put an all breaks NASA nationwide tour together. He couldn't verify the dates or anything except that he said DB is going to try and get Baby D(Production House) and some hot UK breaks DJ's (Grooverider, Fabio, Jumpin' Jack Frost perhaps) to go on a tour similar to the NASA tour from this past fall. Note, I cannot verify this and Trace told me DB went beyond nothing but asking him to join it. If anyone hears more about this or can tell me what's up I would be very interested considering I am one of the few Jungle/darkside DJ's on the east coast. The next question I have is, would it work, and if it did are all of the DJ's going to start spinning breaks, just like everyone started spinning Trance/Progressive House??? Oh well, just thought I would drop the line. British Invasion part 3??? Later, geoffE ---Rumblin' Bass for yer face--- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 19:54:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? > Oh well, just thought I would drop the line. British Invasion part 3??? > > Later, > geoffE > ---Rumblin' Bass for yer face--- If so, this is one invasion I won't resist... =) ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 21:14:04 -0400 Reply-To: fishal@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: FISHAL@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: sub ne-raves list hook me up, man. thanks allyson ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 21:46:57 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: alt.rave Hey all, I have a question that has been bugging me forever. I have been hearing about alt.rave and alt.drugs for the past year that I have been on NE-Raves, but I have no idea how to access those files or whatever. Do you have to FTP to read them? I have FTP access, but I still don't quite understand how to read files once I have reached the site. Anyway, any information that would help me would be much appreciated, because I would really like to read stuff on alt.rave. Thanks. Peace, Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 13 Feb 1994 22:59:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? In-Reply-To: <199402140006.TAA23872@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Feb 1994, geoffE wrote: > Fellow brothers and sisters, > I just talked to Trace who spun up at Outlaw last night in NYC(anybody > go?) and he tells me that DB is trying to put an all breaks NASA > nationwide tour together. He couldn't verify the dates or anything except > that he said DB is going to try and get Baby D(Production House) and some > hot UK breaks DJ's (Grooverider, Fabio, Jumpin' Jack Frost perhaps) to go on > a tour similar to the NASA tour from this past fall. Wow, I and some friends were just talking about how great something like this would be. Actually we were talking about the lack of promoter's interest in bringing any of those guys in yet they will get people like Sven Vath and Laurent what's-his-name in a hot second. Definately bring on Jumping Jack Frost, Dego, Krome and Time, DJ Hype, etc. It would be awesome. > Note, I cannot verify this and Trace told me DB went beyond nothing but > asking him to join it. If anyone hears more about this or can tell me > what's up I would be very interested considering I am one of the few > Jungle/darkside DJ's on the east coast. The next question I have is, would > it work, and if it did are all of the DJ's going to start spinning breaks, > just like everyone started spinning Trance/Progressive House??? Dude, that would be something.....I'd definately like to do a PA and I am sure Method1 would too, I heard one of his frineds got signed to Reinforced. And depending on the timeframe of this I could very well have vinyl out by then, just a thought. > Oh well, just thought I would drop the line. British Invasion part 3??? I think so, it could work, most people haven't been properly exposed to jungle. > Later, > geoffE > ---Rumblin' Bass for yer face--- |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 00:31:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... (fwd) Something that's important to decide when buying techno...what style do you like/want to buy? Most of the CD's ya listed that you like are very 'commercial' and sneered at by most people who consider themselves 'true techno fans'...kinda like a rock fan sneers at Madonna or Michael Jackson...ahhh welll... I can't help too much picking out similar compilations since I can't stand them myself...but if you want to explore a little there's a VERY good german trance CD out...X MIX I - The MFS Trip...it's even DOMESTIC...lots of that 'warm fuzzy german trance' such as Cosmic Baby, Visions of Shiva, Humate, etc...I was very pleased to find that it actually had about 4 songs on it I already had on vinyl...oh, and the CD is actually mixed (like you would actually find at a rave) by Paul Van Dyke...a KILLER DJ... Also suggested...TranceFormed From Beyond...also has lots of MFS artists.. although I little older... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 01:17:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: TIMEWARP 2 MAKEUP Hey...I believe that Ultraviolet has been rescheduled for March 4th...in anycase, lonnie has been having some 'problems' getting this event togeteher so I suggest ya call Ultraworld (410.880.7031 I think) and see wassup...if that number's not right e-mail me and I'll get you in touch with them... at least to explain that you're resheduling for that night, etc...after all, alot of people are looking forward to Ultraworld's next event...BUT, if it's not happening on the 12th then I can really see ALOT of people hitting Philly for Kick It and then Allentown for TW2 in the ultimate weekend-o- roadtrippin-ravers...could be really kewl...BUT GET DOWN WITH THE UW CREW AND SEE WHAT'S UP! Oh yah, and if ya need someone for central Va. promo OR an ambient DJ... lemme know! March 11 is the start of my spring break...and I'll prob. be coming up for TW...if UV isn't happenin that is... :) good luck...hope everything comes together... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 01:49:40 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: alt.rave You gotta do rn or trn (at least for me :) ) to read the newsgroups... DON'T DO IT!! STAY WITH US!! DON'T LEAVE US :) :) :) Peace, Terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 04:46:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: graphics???? In-Reply-To: <199402130554.AAA18624@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Feb 1994, WILL-E wrote: > Brian! can you put this new JPEG View up on the site and maybe a pointer > to the apple ftp site for Quicktime? Chris! will the next alt-rave FAQ > reflect all these new additions/changes? Also, for the PC machines, the best Jpeg viewer at the moment is QPEG, I think it is on release 1.3f now. Brian, can you put it up? I will put it in the incoming directory. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 04:55:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? In-Reply-To: <199402140004.TAA23674@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 13 Feb 1994, geoffE wrote: > Fellow brothers and sisters, > I just talked to Trace who spun up at Outlaw last night in NYC(anybody > go?) and he tells me that DB is trying to put an all breaks NASA > nationwide tour together. He couldn't verify the dates or anything except > that he said DB is going to try and get Baby D(Production House) and some > hot UK breaks DJ's (Grooverider, Fabio, Jumpin' Jack Frost perhaps) to go on > a tour similar to the NASA tour from this past fall. I am now drooling and I want to bear DB's children, if this is true. IMHO breaks have been left out of the loop lately as everyone tries to emulate the ultra-popular house thing. :( I mean, house is nice and all, but only in moderation. Breaks however, are great in XS. :) Now, I am going to any tour dates I can get to if this does happen. Hey, and someone send me his number, I want to suggest a couple of PA's and at least two DJs who would be great for this that would be perfect for an all breaks event. Hey, they could even have a seperate net room. ;) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 05:30:26 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: graphics???? In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 14 Feb 1994 04:46:57 -0500 Dan wrote: > Also, for the PC machines, the best Jpeg viewer at the moment is QPEG, I > think it is on release 1.3f now. Brian, can you put it up? I will put > it in the incoming directory. Good idea Dan, why didn't I think of that? Ok in the /pub/incoming directory, I have placed JPEG View 3.1 which is a viewer for the Macintosh. Note that you need system 7 and QuickTime. I would put QuickTime on there but I'm sure Apple policy prevents me from doing so. You can easily ftp it yourself anyway if you don't already have it. I also put the newest version of Gif Converter 2.3.7 which works fine on system 6 and I believe does not require QuickTime to view JPEGs but don't quote me on that. Gif Converter's interface isn't as nice and clean as JPEG View and for the record, BOTH programs read both GIFs and JPEGs. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 05:43:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: alt.rave In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 13 Feb 1994 21:46:57 -0400 alt.rave and alt.drugs are among thousands of newsgroups you can read. They are like email lists but it's in a public place where everyone (unless it's moderated) can read and post articles. Find out what newsreader you have installed on your account. On a VAX, simply try 'news' or look though help commands until you find that subject. Once you're there, try jumping into that newsgroup. There should be plenty of online help to explain how to do this. Not all places support the alt.* newsgroup hierarchy since it carries a lot of adult and "alternative" issues. This is where you can find lots of pornographic pictures and stories that are causing such a controversy. Most companies just don't carry them and many universties are contemplating not carrying those newsfeeds anymore. If you are a Unix environment, there are several newsreaders. The decent ones are tin and nn while many places still use rn and it's replacement trn. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 10:26:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: My Valentines! :) ,ad8PPPP88b, ,d88PPPP8ba, d8P" "Y8b, ,d8P" "Y8b dP' "8a8" `Yd 8( " )8 I8 liquid love 8I Yb, from your friend ,dP "8a, ,a8" "8a, fluid ,a8" "Yba --x-- adP" `Y8a a8P' `88, ,88' "8b d8" "8b d8" `888' " ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 10:30:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Graphics W-3> I also put the newest version of Gif Converter 2.3.7 which works W-3> fine on system 6 and I believe does not require QuickTime to view W-3> JPEGs but don't quote me on that. Gif Converter's interface isn't W-3> as nice and clean as JPEG View and for the record, BOTH programs W-3> read both GIFs and JPEGs. Yes, Gif Converter can read & write both GIF's & JPEGS, & U don't need System 7. I've had a problem with it's typical Mac interface. Oh yeah, it doesn't need QuickTime either. While were on the topic, Darkside of the Mac (ftp.apple.com) is a screen- saver with some very vivid fractal & kaleidoscope screens that are almost "rave ready" all some one has 2 do is write a shell for any of the modules 2 use them outside of the screensaver. Has any ever seen (or heard of any) mind machine or brain wave entrainment programs 4 a Mac?? If U have, please let me know!! :D ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 12:20:12 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... (fwd) Derek... > Something that's important to decide when buying techno...what > style do you like/want to buy? Most of the CD's ya listed that > you like are very 'commercial' and sneered at by most people who > consider themselves 'true techno fans'...kinda like a rock fan > sneers at Madonna or Michael Jackson...ahhh welll... Thats XACTLY what I wanted to know. I had figured that those CD's might not be true Techno but just sort of hazy mainstream stuff commercially done to sell, sell, sell. Just so you know I did a bit of shopping yesterday and got some Aphix Twin and er...shoot what was it...Polygon Window. I also ordered Trace Europe Express. :) Thanks again for dealing with a newbie... PLUR, Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 10:38:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Graphics (oops!) My bad! Me> System 7. I've had a problem with it's typical Mac interface. That should be I've NEVER had a problem with it's typical Mac interface. Well that should teach me 2 compose offline ;) I LOVE U ALL!!! :D ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:54:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , BEN Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: BEN Subject: Re: Mind Machines for de Mac. . . "Machine Media" said: >Has any ever seen (or heard of any) mind machine or brain wave entrainment >programs 4 a Mac?? If U have, please let me know!! :D What you need to get is a program called Rainbow. It is a trippy LSD sorta thing with lots of options. The thing just sits there and cycles through colors and animations :). It's worth looking at but I can't remember a site. If I can dig it up, I'll upload to techno.stanford.edu or something. If someone knew some code then maybe the program could be changed to sync to something? Hoppy valentines. . . (My Contribution to bad ascii drawings everywhere =) . . .) ---- ---- / \ / \ | \/ | \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \/ XOOXOXOXOOXOXOOXOXOOXOXO kodomo ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:04:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: The Boston Scene is NOT Dead....yet. Hi Jetta, I'd love to DJ if you have it! Let me know what the story is, ok? Bye! Happy Valentines Day? Marshal Hamilton (aka mars) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:54:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: ***ATTENTION NEW YORKERS**** :) Begin quote: ********** I'm not sure if anyone from Boston wrote about this yet, but last year... basically last spring semester was when a lot of the Boston area neravers got together to do nonrave things together- ok- they were rave related, but not at actual raves- neith's preBlue dinner was one.... the Worcester posse had a party.... whole groups of us would go to Chuck E Cheese's, IHOP, or hang around each other's dorms either before raves, before clubbing, or just to hang and chill.... and when all that happened, we all became very good friends. ********** Now that is a great idea. You're grreeEAT! [Tony the tiger theme song] I'll do whatever... places like IHOP and Chucke cheese are excellent places because they're big, nonexclusive, and the management of such places usually doesn't care what we do as long as we buy something.... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:52:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Andy Cerutti Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Andy Cerutti Subject: KICK IT-- March 11th, 1994 Well here it finally is, the info I have been sitting on for nearly a month now and finally got around to sharing with all of you: On Friday March 11th, 1994, Special K Productions, of Philly, will present KICK IT! (215) 552-8940 Dj's upstairs will be: MICRO SOUL SLINGER JASON JINX FRANKIE RYDE WINK NIGEL RICHARDS KARL K KAOS Dj's downstairs will be: DALE CHARLES KING BRITT TONY PEGAS DOZIA BOY BLAKE OKEEFE The event will take place in Downtown Philly in an excellent space, chances are you have never been in this place before, but if you have, you will be glad to return. There will be an aftahours put on by Philly's own T.H.C. Productions (215)-523-4339. Already confirmed for the aftahours are Wink and King Britt with a tag-team assault, a rare event not to be missed. There is no need to add any hype to the info on this party. The line-up and the production crew speak for themselves. Special K Productions are Keith and Kevin, formerly of BigFunHouse. You can read their column in Slurp!, the phattest zine around on the scene(the next issue should come out mid-march, perhaps just in time for red). You will not want to miss this party, it will be a quality event with an even higher quality vibe. It will be the best event going on in Philly untill the much awaited return of a H.E.R.E. party. In case you weren't there, and you probably weren't, the H.E.R.E. parties are right between catastrophic and storm in the book of rave history. When Wink and his gang return with H.E.R.E. later this spring, you will not want to be anywhere else. I will see all of you around soon, i am sure of that. Untill then, take it easy and peace. andy c. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:08:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: dj dante discotheque Regarding this DJ Dante character... I was considering going to the Loft to dance to some good techno etc but if all that is being played is sped-up disco there's places MUCH closer I can go to do this... it's just not the music I like. Is DJ Dante ALWAYS there, and is that ALL he plays? I'd appreciate knowing in advance. thanks for the warnings all ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:09:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? what are "breaks"? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:29:06 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: cool graphics for ibm's??????? are there any public domain screen savers or graphic demos for ibm's out there? my computer just sits all day long sometimes, with nothing to do, and wouldn't it be nice to have it making swirls and fractals for my viewing pleasure!! i don't have windows, and im pretty illiterate as far as getting stuff through internet directories....so any help would be lovely. sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:52:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Aphex on 120 mins. Hey all, Did anyone catch the Aphex Twin's video for "On" on 120 mins. last night on MTV? It finally went domestic. It's really weird.. almost cheesy. I though it would be all computer grafix and wild shapes and things, but it was just speed-motion photography on a beach. It was actually rather clumsy..there was a lot of junk that floated around too. Sir Richard appeared in the form of a B&W cutout.. which I want now! =) Everything on the little credits were correct.. no "Aphex Twins" or "The Aphid Twin" or something. I don't know if this will become a "buzz" clip or something. I have seen the Orb on 120 mins. before and they didn't become buzz or hot commercial hits, so we'll just have to see... Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:44:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: hey paulpaul.... In-Reply-To: <9402101408.AA28671@acs.bu.edu>; from "Paul J Gaydos" at Feb 10, 94 3:43 am hey paul: how are you doing? just curious as to what u r up to. need anything? sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:03:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Handi-boy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Handi-boy Subject: RAINBOX I think someone here was looking for the MAC program Rainbox... (not Rainbow...it's called Rainbox)... Anyways, I found it and put it into /pub/incoming at techno.stanford.edu... so...mac owners check it out....it's a "psychedelic" paint program... it's pretty nutty.... have fun... -handi ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 15:25:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: last thing bout cd's there are two *really* good, non-commercial trance/acid cd's out there. i don't think they've been mentioned yet: Tresor 1 and tresor 2! both are hard german trance to die for, and the furthest from mainstream i've ever heard on a cd. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:36:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Ordering CD's & stuff... Well, I've gotten a few messages asking for Todd Poepping's Innovative Record Source e-mail address, so here it is: poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu every two weeks or so, he sends you a list of new releases; you email him back w/ your order, he orders it, you send him $ and he sends out the cd. I've ordered a couple of phat cd's this way, and I am a very satisfied customer. It's a system that works well !! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 14:06:14 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Mind Machines for de Mac. . . What about FlowFrazer? Is that still around? There are some PC boards that work with the Minds Eye (I think) brain machine out off Seattle? Still looking for something for the Mac. There's probably a UseNet thread on this stuff. There is a guy in NYC that has a package that hooks a Mac up to an EEG machine, displays you brain waves on your monitor.... good hunting...... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 17:15:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Sweeney Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Sweeney Subject: List Lag or Just me? hey there alls! the question i have is thus: I got all the Sat/Sun messages today (Monday). Now, I love getting +60 late messages as much as the next person, but is this just happening to me or is it not my isolated problem? i guess i should i ask my sys adm wazzup. Thanks for any info! Harmon-e..pLUr! ps-on what to buy, check out anything from EX records, as i have found most of there stuff to be the shit! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 17:31:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque In-Reply-To: <199402142216.RAA20908@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, wrote: > Regarding this DJ Dante character... I was considering going to the Loft to > dance to some good techno etc but if all that is being played is sped-up > disco there's places MUCH closer I can go to do this... it's just not the > music I like. Is DJ Dante ALWAYS there, and is that ALL he plays? I'd > appreciate knowing in advance. > thanks for the warnings all Take a minute and read over the tone of this post. Some recent posts have made Dante sound evil, some kind of criminal we should all stay away from. Stop being so fuckin' petty - just 'cos he didnt spin exactly what you wanted to hear, it doesnt make him a bad person. I have danced my arse off to dante with numerous people on this list and he was long considered one of the greats on this coast. I have met Dante several times, and have received nothing but smiles, laughs, and some wikked music from him. And to whomever started this, the Loft was never a place to go to hear breaks anyway as far as I know. Pictures of DJ Neuromancers shirt flash to mind: I AM A DJ NOT A JUKEBOX flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 19:24:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: Aphex on 120 mins. well...all things considered...the aphex/moby/orbital tour has gotten a LOT of press amongst all kinda fo magazines etc...i would be shocked if MTV didn't try to play it up somehow...less they just blatantly dismiss 'techno' we'll see love and frogs!!! Neith (the following combined by cspot) ,ad8PPPP88b, ,d88PPPP8ba, d8P" "Y8b, ,d8P" "Y8b dP' "8a8" `Yd 8( " )8 I8 (O)_(O) 8I Yb, / . . \ ,dP "8a, ( \_____/ ) ,a8" "8a, \_______/ ,a8" "Yba adP" `Y8a a8P' `88, ,88' "8b d8" "8b d8" `888' " happy vday :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 20:23:18 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: XTC Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 60 Can anyone point me to an ecstasy FAQ???? Thanks. -Matt ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 21:42:23 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Here's what I've done... Ravers... I took all of your's advice into acct and did a little shopping. I got: The Prodigy Experience, Orb: Ufo, Polygon Window (Surfing on Sine Waves), and a Lords of Acid single. Thanks for all the help :) You may wondered why I've posted this...well, I want to get blasted for making all the wrong choices ;) Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 21:15:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Dutch vibes Just got a load of tapes full of Dutch techno; hard and other various styles. If anyone has more...mail me and we can trade sum. I'm also looking for Moby's Early Underground...lost my copy that I bought in Mexico... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 18:26:20 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chris Beaumont Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chris Beaumont Subject: mindmachines The mind-l archive site is asylum.sf.ca.us Theres schematics there,etc. -C. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 21:58:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? hmmm....you think they need any PA's ? :) i work cheep :) :) -jason/method one ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 22:50:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque Hey Fluid, I'm the one that's got that shirt ("I AM NOT A JUKEBOX" "DJ PRO SHUT UP AND DANCE"). Just wanted to set the record straight. ;) Peace to a new generation... Marshal Hamilton p.s. I hate getting DISCO-ED from VRAVE... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:22:41 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: DJ ENTOX! Sorry to bother all with this, but I need your (DJ Entox) e-mail address. I have what in some circles would pass for an attempt at a story for your zine and want to pop it off to you... PLUR, and Apologies... APocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:25:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque Dante's been one of my favorite DJs. He's also one of the most respected and le well e loved person in the rave scene. His music has changed from trance to more SF-style funk. But He's an SF DJ noo w. Leave the past behind, and enjoy the present :_) -) - Rob ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:38:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? In-Reply-To: <199402142241.RAA23189@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, wrote: > what are "breaks"? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:38:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: BREAKBEAT TOUR??? In-Reply-To: <199402142241.RAA23189@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, wrote: > what are "breaks"? The above question sums up why a Breakbeat tour would be an excellent idea. There are many people in this country who have never heard or been properly exposed to breakbeat. To answer the question as simple as possible I would sum breaks up as Funky Energetic High Speed Syncopated Techno. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:41:01 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque hey*guys... i didn't mean to start an anti-break movement =), all i was saying is that the loft is the only place in boston that ever plays breaks and when i don't get my fix i get psycho. well, not that bad, but i felt like i was at venus on a saturday, and i wasn't. sorry to offend anyone. i'm really not a bad person. =) forgive me... but i am excited about the "break tour" (hey, i am easy to please) =)slurp harrrrry ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 23:42:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Duc Hang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Duc Hang "SUB CALENDER" ____________________________________________________________________ | _________________________________________________________________ | | |Duc T. Hang | __ _ , | | | |Box 271, 103 So. 36th St. | / ) ' ) / | | | |Philadelphia, PA 19104 | / / . . _. /--/ __. ____ _, | | | |(PH) (215) 573-7169 | /__/_(_/_(_ / (_(_/|_/ / <_(_)_ | | | |dhang@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | /| | | | |dhang@mail.sas.upenn.edu | University of Pennsylvania |/ | | | |dhang@aol.com | Class of 1997 | | | |___________________________|____________________________________| | |____________________________________________________________________| ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 22:42:52 -0600 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matthew Koglin Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matthew Koglin Subject: Mailing List Article To all MODule writers: PalWare, Ltd. is sponsoring a MOD Compact Disc. If you would like your MODve published with many others on compact disc, please contact the following per- person. We can accept many MODs, however not all can be published. Also, we must order the compact discs in bulk, meaning we need disc orders. If you would like to receive a disc for a low cost (cheaper than $12), contact the below person also. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT, AND YOUR MODs TO MAKE THIS WORK!!!! Contact: mkoglin@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu f for more information. Matthew Koglin, PalWare, Ltd. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 00:24:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque In-Reply-To: <199402142217.RAA20946@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, wrote: > Regarding this DJ Dante character... I was considering going to the Loft to > dance to some good techno etc but if all that is being played is sped-up > disco there's places MUCH closer I can go to do this... it's just not the > music I like. Is DJ Dante ALWAYS there, and is that ALL he plays? I'd > appreciate knowing in advance. geez! he *doesn't* spin disco!!! and he's not a regular at the loft. he was in town spinning a couple places... he's a very good dj and he plays fun music. its *not* sped up disco. he's a very accomplished dj. go to the loft...don't worry about not having music to dance to.. chris ----------------CATS MEOW---------------- | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 00:44:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque In-Reply-To: <199402150514.AAA09640@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, D.J.MARS wrote: > Hey Fluid, > I'm the one that's got that shirt ("I AM NOT A JUKEBOX" "DJ PRO SHUT UP AND > DANCE"). Just wanted to set the record straight. ;) No, I was definately thinking of our friend from Frankfurt, DJ Neuromancer. Same shirt though im sure.. flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 22:22:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Pharmacology FAQ's mpj> Can anyone point me to an ecstasy FAQ???? Try FTP'ing pub/raves/chemistry (or somrthing like that) at techno.stanford.edu. There are plenty of articles on MDMA there. There is also an entire archive of FAQ's from various newsgroups, including alt.drug, at pub/usenet pit-manager.mit.edu Please keep in mind that most of this information is on MDMA, which I hope is relevant 2 the E's that U might find. Be aware that all kinds of nasty pills are often passed off as Ecstacy, and the 411 on a pure substance may not be relevant in helping U make informed choices. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 02:54:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ultraworld Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: ultraworld@AOL.COM Subject: Ultraviolet net ravers, here's the final scoop on UV: it is now going to be saturday may 21st, and that will be in gold by the end of this week. i know it's a bit of a dissapointment, and everybody is jonesing for a rave, but if we would have gone ahead with the march 4 date, it would not have been a rave. here's some of the reasons we've moved: 1) fear of a friday night, just doesn't seem like a rave night 2) the date came up too soon. our first space, which was when we announced the 12th, fell through and the new space didn't come together until last thursday. with only one fever, one buzz, no raves, and no time to get a decent flyer together, us and primary didn't think there would be enough promotion. 3) the space available on the 4th would not be conducive to two rooms of music, and we realized that ultraworld did not want to throw a rave again without the proper space for people to chill. by waiting until may ( when it's warmer) we can throw up a tent for another room if need be, although the new space does have two rooms. 4) from our standpoint, GLOW is already approaching at a rapid pace, and primary has RED in about a month, so UV would be the party to suffer from a lack of attention. if the ravers make those parties successes, we can then throw UV with little regard for the monetary side of it, and it will be much better because of it. at this point, we are all a little strapped for cash. i know it's a bummer, but we had to make the hard decision in the interests of a better event for everyone. we're not going to turn UV into some huge event, we still are shooting for about 1000, but we do want to make sure that the thousand people who come are treated to an extra special time. i hope nobody shrivels up from the lack of raves in january and february, but if we make it through, the rest of the year is going to be great. just in case you forgot, and for the ne-ravers whose address i finally got, here's our plans for 1994: April 16, 23, or 30 GLOW (date will be confirmed this week) Hopefully a RESOLUTION type event, with less publicity :) Serious theme party all based on things having to do with glowing. Any ideas are welcome.....so please don't hesitate to share them. May 21 ULTRAVIOLET in conjunction with Primary productions Djs Scott Henry Dj Sun Who Greg Seargent 3 3 3 M Gee Osheen Debo Joeski June U-world is applying for a permit at a very special location in the nation's capitol, that if we get it, is going to be insane! July 2 WAVE at the ocean! With an after party at a private beach. We've got a few lines on the private beach part, but if anyone knows anybody with land between O.C. and Delaware, they should let us know so we can make sure it happens! August do i have to say it? the annual 3 day camping celebration, yet to be named, but being planned, call it WILD II for now. the exact dates will be announced soon October 29 I think this year it's our turn to have a go at halloween. Look for your favorite cartoon crazies to show up and make the party go nuts. (ex: the joker shows up to blast everybody with acid gas, etc...) all good ideas welcome. Fall is sub-rosa season, so expect the unexpected! And then we'll see who deserves New Years this year, but rest assured if everybody thinks U-world should do it, then we'll do it. Look, 94 is the year we make it happen for real, no more bullshit like last year. So make sure you support the right people, help spread the word, keep a smile on your face, dance your ass off, and rave on! lonnie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 00:12:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: Here's what I've done... In-Reply-To: <199402150303.WAA22328@umd5.umd.edu> Apocalypse writes: > Ravers... > > I took all of your's advice into acct and did a little shopping. I got: > > The Prodigy Experience, Orb: Ufo, Polygon Window (Surfing on Sine Waves), > and a Lords of Acid single. Thanks for all the help :) > > You may wondered why I've posted this...well, I want to get blasted for > making all the wrong choices ;) Well, they're not particularly new, but I'd say all of these are good additions to any techno collection (ok, now half the list will flame me for liking the prodigy and lords of acid). I think most people will agree that uforb and surfing on sine waves are must-haves though. - dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 07:54:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Pete Bastien Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Pete Bastien Subject: Re: Pharmacology FAQ's In-Reply-To: <199402150722.CAA19160@umd5.umd.edu> from "Machine Media" at Feb 14, 94 10:22:00 pm > > mpj> Can anyone point me to an ecstasy FAQ???? > > Try FTP'ing pub/raves/chemistry (or somrthing like that) at > techno.stanford.edu. There are plenty of articles on MDMA there. > There is also an entire archive of FAQ's from various newsgroups, > including alt.drug, at pub/usenet pit-manager.mit.edu > If you have gopher, then you can connect to the rave site with it by: gopher techno.stanford.edu. Pete ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 09:00:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: oh happy day.... happy mardi gras everyone!!!!! and to bostonians etc.....Happy Valentine's Week!!! (that's right the governor officially declared all this week to be valentine's WEEK due to the storms....) so :^* to you all love and frogs!!! neith ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 08:21:36 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: XTC Also if you can get on The Well. Go Drugs, lot's of x info from interesting crowd. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:43:40 +0100 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: oh happy day.... >and to bostonians etc.....Happy Valentine's Week!!! >(that's right the governor officially declared all this week to >be valentine's WEEK due to the storms....) Valentine's DAY sucks...now I have to suffer a whole WEEK? =( ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:58:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque In-Reply-To: <199402150512.AAA09540@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 14 Feb 1994, D.J.MARS wrote: > I'm the one that's got that shirt ("I AM NOT A JUKEBOX" "DJ PRO SHUT UP AND > DANCE"). Just wanted to set the record straight. ;) no no no marshal hamliton villarosa (could you have a longer name)...let the record show! I bought that shirt at nasa the day that we met, december the 25th 1992 FOR MY SELF! So technically it is jenn's shirt ;) hehe. peace, jennifer smeddy jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 09:40:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CONCEPCION@VAXVMSX.BABSON.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Aphex on 120 mins. Hmm ... I don't have cable here, argh ... but I did get to see the vid for "On" while I was in Europe last winter. Yeah, it was a little disappointing with the technique of just using speed-motion photography. I was expecting some snazzy grafx too. FSOL's video for Cascade has some way cool computer effects in it ... uses the weird chromed octopus/hairball that graces the cover of the single. - Cris ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 12:15:11 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Return to Nebula & Delta II Melzie I lost your address for the Hook-up-o-matic Anyway, Return to Nebula is supposed to be in "the original Nebula space, Poughkeepsie, NY." Does this mean it's in the skating rink? Anyone go to the first/original Nebula? I was under the impression that the only raves that happened in Poughkeepsie where in that skatink rink and ever since Universal Bad Vibe I've been kinda skeptical and weary of raving in skating rinks. Geesh, I can't wait for the summer outdoor free parties again... So anyone driving to Delta II this Friday in Philly or up to Nebula II on Saturday who can pick me and Phil Z up in Manhattan? thanks! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 12:32:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque In-Reply-To: <199402150639.BAA17186@umd5.umd.edu> from "secret agent mellow" at Feb 15, 94 00:24:05 am When Dante was an East Coast DJ he would play one classic disco song at the end of his set. It always brought smiles to my face because it was usually a well known song that signaled the end of one of his great sets. It just made you reflect about the last hour or two that you've been dancing. - Rob ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 12:53:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: RAINBOX In-Reply-To: Your message of Mon, 14 Feb 1994 16:03:35 EST > I think someone here was looking for the MAC program Rainbox... > (not Rainbow...it's called Rainbox)... > Anyways, I found it and put it into /pub/incoming at techno.stanford.edu... > so...mac owners check it out....it's a "psychedelic" paint program... > it's pretty nutty.... have fun... > -handi Thanks handi! This program is wicked! I love it! Hours of fun :) If you have a Mac with at least 256 colors then definitely grab it! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:14:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: dj dante discotheque In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 15 Feb 1994 00:44:28 -0500 The shirt "I am not a jukebox" is a Liquid sky Tee......Lots of people have it......I have one too! TOM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 02:57:58 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: last thing bout cd's > there are two *really* good, non-commercial trance/acid cd's out there. > i don't think they've been mentioned yet: > Tresor 1 and tresor 2! > both are hard german trance to die for, and the furthest from mainstream > i've ever heard on a cd. Do you know of a place or a way to order these? Can find em anywhere by me... PLUR, Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 11:40:58 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: RAINBOX Yep, just picked this up, cool. Any more info on author, things he's working on???? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:57:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: DJ Dante Discotheque I second Fluid's post. I got a chance to hang out with Dante for a little while this summer at the NMS - he was nothing but nice. He's very intelligent and well-spoken too. Maybe his music is just moving in directions you (whoever you are) don't approve of. Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 14:36:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE FOR THE WEEK OF 2/14/94 UPDATE FROM DJ TRAX TECHNOLOGICAL PROMOTION--WOOD-RIDGE, NJ, USA 2/14/94 Because of adverse weather conditions in the NYC area this weekend, most new music had trouble reaching stores. The update stays the same. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "ACETATE OF THE MONTH/WEEK": Keep your eyes open for a new Rare Arts/Two Without Hats 12" in the Boriqua Posse/Try Yazz vein. Glen Friscia of Hot 97 is playing this two times a night, causing a major buzz. Unfortunately, NO label has signed the song yet, so we'll have to wait for the 12". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here are the records that are still working NYC dance floors. Help support the underground that supports you, contact the labels and tell them where you saw the record info!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY HYPE RECORDS: "You Used To Hold Me '94"--Ralphi Rosario feat. Xaviera Gold (SH-112) Well, here we are, yet another remix of "You Used To Hold Me," but wait, this is a double 12" with 12 mixes by all the hot remixers: MAW, DJ EFX, Maurice Joshua,..... My pick, however, is DJ Hyperactive's "Chicago 303 Mix" which gets Ms. Gold involved in the retro-acid "thang." Amazing how great this song can sound to even the hardest of dancefloors. SLAM IT!!!! For lovers of the original, go with Ralphi's "Riviera" mix which works that original keyboard line to the bone. Contact: Tania 708-678-1271 FAX: 708-678-1272 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRI STAR RECORDS: "Medicine Mix"--Haruomi Hosono (WAS-5576) The "Quiet Lodge Version" ventures into deep trance territory. The haunting keyboard work by this Japanese artist fits well into any trance set. Contact: Todd Glassman 212-833-8000 FAX: 212-833-8484 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOUSE JAM RECORDS: "Got The Cure"--Thrillseekers (HJA-9428) The "Blueprint Disko Dub" uses that ever so popular groove from "Let No Man Put Asunder" that you thought was buried years ago. Well here it is and ready to be worked on all the house dancefloors. Start digging out the Salsoul originals, or for late-comers, Acapella Anonymous Volume 1. Contact: Rick or Gary 312-226-8092 FAX: 312-226-7184 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORE RECORDS (UK): "Nothing Better"--Colourblind The "Hand and Spear" club mix starts off with the female chant of "Nothing Better" and slowly layers groove upon groove until a unified tribal track is built. Then BOOM!, the keyboards kick in full force combining with a fierce bassline to keep it up for 5:38. Contact: Moneypenny 212-343-2660 FAX: 212-343-2753 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SNEAK TIP RECORDS: "The Circus House"--Network 109 (STR-022) Produced by Peter "At Work" Presta, "The Circus House" borrows bits and pieces from the sample house archives and relives just a little of that Todd Terry feeling from 1988. Check out the "Presta Mix" and let me know what samples YOU find. Contact: Jerry 718-459-0334 FAX: 718-459-0724 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTINUUM RECORDS: "Burning Like The Sun"--Red Red Groovy (13303-0) Mixed by the X-Mix clan (Armand Van Helden--"Circle Children"), this record works the current trend of tribal revelry and does it well. Pieces of the alternative-like male vocals slither in and out of the mix. Contact: Chris B 908-709-0011 FAX: 908-709-0641 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FREEZE RECORDS: "The Todd Terry Unreleased Project Part 5" (TNT-09) Mr. Todd Terry delivers with another sample track EP. Todd goes back into the vaults to nail some old school house jams. Anybody remember "Don't Stop It" by DMS on Cutting Records a few years back? Well, Todd put the great organ filled "Keep on Pressing On" dub on this record and added bits and pieces of Two Without Hat's "The Breeze," calling it "Nitty Gritty." A must have for all DJs. Contact: Richie Rich 212-243-1189 FAX: 212-243-1089 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NERVOUS RECORDS: "Tales From the RZ"--Beltram Presents (SO-20082) Joey Beltram serves up a tasty house styled record with a remix of Xavier Gold's "You Used To Hold Me" flying around an 130 BPM acidic typhoon. "Warriors Dance"--Deep Creed Mega-Tribal with a techno flavored keyboard hook. This one is produced by the Tribal man of the hour, Armand Van Helden which should be enough reason to buy the record. What are you waiting for? Contact: Nick 212-730-7160 FAX: 212-730-7130 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Gobah"--The Untouchables Kenny "Dope" Gonzalez gives us a tribal track that delivers with a sample of "Jingo" (Where did he get the sample???? Could it be "Drums of Passion"-1960???) "Indonesia"--Circle Children (SR-12203) Tribal with an Indonesian(???) vocal sample. Working a 126 BPM chant-laden percussion track, this record is causing a major buzz among all DJs and DJ oriented publications "More"--The Erick Morillo EP (SR EP-3) This man has been responsible for Strictly Rhythm's resurgence in the 12" market. His list of hits goes on and on: The New Anthem, Go On Move, I Like To Move It, UNBE, House of Love........ 5 cuts are featured, one hip-hop, the rest, strong house tracks. My picks have to be "Toety" which HOT 97 (NYC) DJ Glen Friscia has been pumping since November!!!!???? This one sounds like a remake of the "Anasthasia-"ized" Muevelo Remix but with a much harder hip-hop beat. "Back In My House" yet again works Althea McQueen's "fierce" vocals with a new organ track. "Asuca"--R.A.W. (SR-12215) Once again, Erick Morillo offers up a house track perfect for any DJ. "Asuca" uses a sinewy bassline and samples from "Muevelo" to make it familiar. "(Shake Watcha) Mama Gave Y'All"--Stik-E and The Hoods (PW-104) Produced by the ever popular hip-hop sample guru, Frankie Cutlass, this one works the chant style like Funkmaster Flex's "C'mon Baby" but uses the "Shake......" chant from Miami's "Poison Clan". The sampled beat from Slick Rick's "Mona Lisa" and horns from K7's "Come Baby Come" help to make this a timeless classic. Contact: Bari 212-246-0026 FAX: 212-246-2191 Please send any questions, comments, advice, etc. to: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: twitch@casa.stanford.edu Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:17:30 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: thanks and more In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 13 Feb 94 17:37:57 -0400. <9402132239.AA02274@MIT.EDU> >(am i overreacting?) yes. >if it doesn't move me, it just doesn't move me, ya know? if it doesn't move you, get your finger out of the air, and your ass OFF the dance floor. the style of dance music that Dante spins now doesn't blow my mind like that he was spinning 15 months ago at LIFE...but he absolutely LOVES what he does and is very happy. He's been very kind and to me and I am happy every time we get a chance to hang out no matter what style he happens to be spinning at the time... BTW...when I saw him at Wikked in SanFran on NewYears morning he gave me his new tape called Shaman's Drum. not techno of any kind- perfectly mixed from cd and vinyl, it's 90 minutes of the most spiritually and emotionally (not to mention physically) moving music I've ever heard on a DJ tape. it's all tribal drums and sounds of the third world. on top of that he mixes in the most slamming hip-hop beats, to create a totally mind-blowing musical style. on the morning of newyears, after we laeft Wikked, we were driving out of SanFran and we popped the tape in. coming off beatifully smooth E's...there was a thick fog over the highways that morning as we rolled out of SF and on to HW 1 south...if you've driven the Pacific Coast Highway you know what i'm talking about...suddenly, as the tribal beats kicked in, and these crazy voices lifted in obvious praise of the spirit and life, was came out of the fog and were gifted with the most amazing day i've ever seen...vibrant blue sunny skies, soft cotton clouds here and there, majestic ocean crashing on white beaches, seagulls hovering on updrafts from the cliffs...an amazing experience to say the least... if you're dissing Dante, you don't know HALF of what he's about. the guy knows the TRUE meaning of what dance music is...not what every joe and cindy DJ plays because that's what's in the techno record store to choose from... shannon "flaming like Dante's inferno" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:40:04 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , FIEND <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: FIEND <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: hey everyone... hey.. havent been on in awhile, been real busy and shit. just figured i'd say hi, and im back in biz.. anyway, someone cloo me in to a good small rave happenin soon that everyone will be at. after univibe2 i think im done with big time rock n roll $25 dollar raves. from the little ive read in my overfull mailbox, it seems red will be it. im off to check to see if my vrave account is still alive and kickin. the fiend --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:55:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/15/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Wow, the events just keep piling on and on. Keep your eyes on those dates too, because things are constantly getting shuffled around and rescheduled. Have a slammin weekend. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can both share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 02/18/94 - DELTA II - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 413 - 9100 02/19/94 - SPICE - New York State - (718) 714 - 5232 02/19/94 - RETURN TO NEBULA - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 431 - 6718 02/21/94 - OPEN MONDAY * - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 922 - 6500 02/23/94 - TRANSFORMATION - Philadelphia, PA - (???) ??? - ???? 03/05/94 - SONIC SOUL - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/05/94 - RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE - Nova Scotia, CA - (902) 423 - 1508 03/05/94 - THE FANTASY PROJECT - Poughkeepsie, NY - (914) 463 - 9350 03/11/94 - KICK IT! - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 552 - 8940 03/12/94 - TIMEWARP 2@(rescheduled)- Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 03/12/94 - EXPANSION - Long Island, NY - (516) 476 - 2520 03/12/94 - SPUTNIK 4 - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 03/19/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT III - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/23/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 05/21/94 - ULTRAVIOLET - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 18 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 413 - 9100 DELTA II Delta II DJs: Josh Wink Nigel Richards Boy Blake Visuals: Melon Dezign Date: Friday, February 18 Location: Philadelphia, PA Cost: $4-5 per (all profit is donated to Philadelphia Coalition for the Homeless) Timing: 10pm - 3am Admissions: Only with a necklace Specs: Original necklaces are still good for entrance at two entrances per necklace New necklaces available between 1ish and 9 at: 611 Records 611 S. 4th St. Philadelphia, PA 19147 Phone/Fax: 215/413-9100 [Okay, for everyone who showed up to the last event I know you are foaming to get to this one. :) I am definately heading up for this one. The Deltas feature the finest lack of lasers, lights, salespeople, and attitude in the known world. The last one was just a nice basic space with some phat DJs spinning some wikked jams. Everyone was happy, the whole scene was wild and, well, it was incredible. People with massive amounts of expendable dance energy and great vibe are encouraged to attend. -Danarchy] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 19 NEW YORK STATE (718) 714 - 5232 SPICE -> Cannabis Action Network presents the first ever hardcore underground event for the re-legalization of marajuana... SPICE - February 19, 1994...with your herbal audio pilots DX-13 (industrial strength) TERA (back to basics) SOUL SLINGER (liquid sky) DENARD (digitek) HEATHER HEART (under one sky) JIMMY CRASH (direct drive) ADAM X (groove records) DAVE TRANCE (caffeine/essence) INSTINE (mental unity) $13/non-member $10/member Tickets on sale Feb. 12th @ Groove Records (Brooklyn) 718-714-5232, Planet X (NJ) 908-249-0304, Liquid Sky (Manhattan) 212-343-0532 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 19 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 431 - 6718 RETURN TO NEBULA Up North Productions in association with Fusion presents RETURN TO NEBULA *celebrating two years of the upstate scene* February 19, 1994 DJ'S: Tiga (Montreal) Luc Raymond (Montreal) Mr Kleen (Fusion) Jason Jinx (NASA) 333 (England (New)) Tim Ryan (Boston) Dave Trance (LI/Caffeine) Guy DMC (DMC NY/UK) Jimmy Crash (Brooklyn) Scott Richmond (Fusion) Heather Heart (U.O.S.) Troposphere (NYC) Sprout (Fusion/Polaris) Ryde (New Jersey) Lights: ACME Two Separate Dance Floors $15 at door 10 pm until..... Location: the original Nebula space Poughkeepsie, NY Albany- Big Dipper (518) 465-6381 LI- Dave C (516) 891-2233 NYC- Satellite (212) 465-3299 Up North- (914) 256-0445 ACME- (914) 463-9350 Conn- United Techno (203) 646-6381 Montreal- DNA (514) 854-6446 Boston- Primary (617) 541-4258 Portland- KC (207) 773-6979 Philly- 611 (215) 413-9100 from points N + S take I-87 to exit 18 at light make right onto rt299 follow to end. Make right onto rt9W follow approx 1 mile to mid hudson bridge cross bridge go straight on church st to 9th light turn right onto grand ave go thru 2 lights-JCC on left. From points E + W take I-84 to exit 13 to rt9 North about 11 miles to Poughkeepsie exit left onto church st follow directions above tickets available at subtopia records (212) 431-6718 _______________________________________________________________________________ Monday, February 21 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 922 - 6500 OPEN MONDAY * * "OPEN" MONDAY CLUB EGYPT, PHILADELPHIA (215) 922-6500 Beginning Feb 21, 1994, then every monday. "The night where anything goes" Witness DJ Robbie Tronco blowing out the system Lights, Camera, Action - DJ Rush Atmosphere - A.D. & TRIPP Wild dancers,Body Piercing, Fashions, Tattooing, etc. Come to watch, come to join, or come to come, But Due to the nature of this party, must be over 21. Doors open at 9pm _______________________________________________________________________________ Wednesday, February 23 PHILADELPHIA, PA (???) ??? - ???? TRANSFORMATION Wed., Feb. 23rd, in Philly, "Transformation" with Josh Wink (another Cloud 9 party) _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 NOVA SCOTIA, CA (902) 423 - 1508 RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE Cognition Audiworks and Dystonia present Rhythmic Dissonance Saturday March 5th, 10pm til? 1588 Granville st. Downtown Halifax Nova Scotia tickets $5 in advance $6 at door live acts include...Automata, Protozoa, Bass Response, Sub-Level and Fork Boy oh, and Neural Firing Squad too. DJs...Mastermind, Blue, Rinse, lucidril, Kali, LAShTAL and Nonsense Info lines NS 902/423/1508 NB 506/458/8735 it's a pre-release party for the rhythmic dissonance compilation of eastern canadian techno talent. hope some of you will come. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SONIC SOUL Interactive Trance Ambient Atmosphere _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (914) 463 - 9350 THE FANTASY PROJECT ACME Laboratories presents THE FANTASY PROJECT a benefit for the Woodstock Animal Rights Movement DJs: Doc Martin (SF Wicked crew) John Williams (SF Wicked crew) Micro & Lewis (four turntables) Osheen (RI) Adam X (Groove Records) Frankie Bones (Groove Records) Troposphere (DMC Records, NY) Happy (Boston) 10 pm - 10 am $18 warehouse location directly across from Marist College Poughkeepsie, NY _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 11 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 552 - 8940 KICK IT! On Friday March 11th, 1994, Special K Productions, of Philly, will present KICK IT! (215) 552-8940 Dj's upstairs will be: MICRO SOUL SLINGER JASON JINX FRANKIE RYDE WINK NIGEL RICHARDS KARL K KAOS Dj's downstairs will be: DALE CHARLES KING BRITT TONY PEGAS DOZIA BOY BLAKE OKEEFE [The event will take place in Downtown Philly in an excellent space, chances are you have never been in this place before, but if you have, you will be glad to return. There will be an aftahours put on by Philly's own T.H.C. Productions (215)-523-4339. Already confirmed for the aftahours are Wink and King Britt with a tag-team assault, a rare event not to be missed. There is no need to add any hype to the info on this party. The line-up and the production crew speak for themselves. Special K Productions are Keith and Kevin, formerly of BigFunHouse. You can read their column in Slurp!, the phattest zine around on the scene(the next issue should come out mid-march, perhaps just in time for red). You will not want to miss this party, it will be a quality event with an even higher quality vibe. It will be the best event going on in Philly untill the much awaited return of a H.E.R.E. party. In case you weren't there, and you probably weren't, the H.E.R.E. parties are right between catastrophic and storm in the book of rave history. When Wink and his gang return with H.E.R.E. later this spring, you will not want to be anywhere else. andy c.] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II (rescheduled) GSC1@Lehigh.Edu Makeup date for TIMEWARP II is Saturday, March 12, 1994 Lineup still stands... ROOM 1: Joey Beltram Trace Mars geoffE Ikon ROOM 2: DB Scott Henry Remic Mark M(6 turntables) Miko ROOM 3: Ursol(San Francisco) Lazlo(Portland, Oregon) Intelligent Lighting Video Projections by HIGH RISE 3 rooms in a warehouse WARP fee $12 INFO:(610)433-0503 or GSC1@Lehigh.Edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 476 - 2520 EXPANSION -> Friday March 4, 1994...EXPANSION...expanding the Long Island Underground Presented by the Island Vibe Network...with DJ's Micro, James Christian, Joeski, plus other SURPRISE (and I mean SURPRISE) DJ's...call the Island Vibe Line 516-476-2520 for more info. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK 4 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 19 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT 3 Spiritual Movement 3 will be happening on March 19th. The location will be fully legal and fire inspected. The DJ line-up: Neuromancer Micro DJ Sun Jason Jinx Scott Henry Richie Hawtin Moby Lasers by Pawn Stiltwalkers Gyrobix and Visuals by Psylicybin For more info, contact Modern Music at (410)523-1882 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Current info-> Boston: 617-541-4258 NYC: 212-631-4290 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME On April 9, 1994, Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Energizer, Sandman, Plasma and Apple present: PLEASUREDOME94. Live PA's Baby Ford 1.8.7. DJ's Colin Faver Dave Angel Keoki Dmitry Jason Jinx King Britt James Christian On-e Gerret Frerrich Who Sun Mr Kleen Lee Speed Demon Greg Sargent Odyssy Kieth Kennebeck Karl Matthews Sketti Bobble LG Double 07 Deitrich Robby Dyno Acid Trevor Lamont Reese Tiff This event will take place in three areas under one massive roof at a venue that is completely new, 100% legal and 100% pleasure. If anybody is interested in vending, promoting, running bus trips or would like their info line on the flyer, please call 410.347.1460. But hurry, flyers are going to print next week. (A DC line is upcomming.) Comments and suggestions can also be left at: PLASMA1000@aol.com. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 3 GSC1@Lehigh.Edu 10p.m. - ??? The third event in the series that takes you through time and space... 4 BIG SOUND ARENAS ARENA 1: Confirmed Adam X, Jimmy Crash, geoffE v. Jeffee breakbeat battle, Ikon plus more... ARENA 2: Confirmed Wink, Goodwill, Scott Richmond, Miko plus more... ARENA 3: Ambient heaven with Ursol(San Francisco) and Lazlo(Portland, Oregon) plus more... ARENA 4: The best up-and-coming DJ's spin an hour set each. Want to be a part, send tapes to geoffE before Feb. 28! DJ's chosen will be announced at flyer press time!!! Intelligent lighting - Video Projections - UNITY INFO. (610)433-0503 or e-mail GSC1@Lehigh.Edu Mail tapes to geoffE 12 W. 4th St. Bethlehem, PA 18015 RE: T3 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com ULTRAVIOLET ULTRAVIOLET in conjunction with Primary productions DJs: Scott Henry Dj Sun Who Greg Seargent 3 3 3 M Gee Osheen Debo Joeski w/JOESKI at the after hours tix will most likely be $13, the event will be in baltimore times: 10 pm - 8 am with a free afterhours at the reel chill spot. make sure you are dressed appropriately for the black light theme! _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "Just that gangsta glare..." ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 17:00:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Poughkeepsie events Hey, I don't have any idea whether or not the first Nebula was in a skating rink, but you definitely shouldn't be under the impression that all Poughkeepsie events have been in skating rinks! The Nebula that I went to, I think it was the third one, was in Bertie's Sports Bar! I think you understand what kind of place it was. That was one event that was full of craziness, like twirling apes, fire alarms, supah cold rain (with all of us out in it for a while), and hours of laughter, so much that my stomach hurt like hell afterwards. I don't think that this Return to Nebula is going to be anything like #3 was, but that only means that the Olympics are going to be playing at Berties, not your favorite DJs. Matt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 17:27:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: DJ Dante Discotheque In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:57:46 -0400 Dante is very nice, in fact one of the nicest people I've met in the scene. One time I was standing around looking sad and he came up to me and offered to get me in NASA (I was outside on line) for half price to make me feel better. He ugave out oranges at the limelight. He threw evolution parties and revelation, and incredible rave, and when it got busted he took the loud speaker and started speaking about how you could break up a party but not the feelings. And his music is incredible, no matter what direction its moving in. He is very talented and a good person. Please stop saying bad things about somebody that totally doesn't deserve it. And if you don't like his stlye, fine, chill out with you friends while he's on, but don't ruin him for other people that have never heard him before. LOVE>>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 17:28:50 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: DJ Dante Discotheque In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:57:46 -0400 oops, darshan, I think I just sent that to you and I meant to send it to everybody. Oh well, I'm sorry! LOVE>>>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 17:26:34 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Mind Machines fo... "Machine Media" said: >Has any ever seen (or heard of any) mind machine or brain wave entrainment >programs 4 a Mac?? If U have, please let me know!! :D Here on AOL there is a company online whose products are software and hardware that runs on brainwaves. For example, you can "think" to the computer a certain command and it'll recognize and do it! Think about, folx! no pun intended :) I forget what they're called or any further details, but if anyone is interested, I'd be happy to send you more info. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 16:42:00 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: Re: Return to Nebula & Delta II Will-E, I think you are confusing the Nebula parties and the Satellite Productions "Satellite" parties. Sputnik (definitely 2, I'm not sure about the first one) took place in the roller rink. The "original" Nebula space is the Jewish Community Center here in Poughkeep- sie. The Nebula event I went to there took place in what was basically a gymnasium with a stage at one end, basically like in an elementary school. They only had that one dance floor, but the Return to Nebula flyers say that there will be two separate dance floors, so I'm not sure what they have in mind for the second one. Peace, Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 18:17:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Attn: Shannon only I hope no one else wastes time reading this. Shannon Coen, what's up? This is Wei-En. Sorry I've been out of touch, but I lost your e-mail address, plus I have to work til midnight (at least) every day, so I gots no time to check out your new decks. Reply to me at weien@pageworks.com Later ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 18:49:06 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: to clear up about roller rinks sputnick was in the newburg skate park: not in a roller rink. i actually liked riding the pipe to phat bass and watching my brothers jam on wheelz while the muzik was blaring. as far as roller rinks go....the spaces usually have potential and all, but the atmosphere isnt always there.... scott richmond has held three of his parties at the newburg roller rink, including his last one: New Year's with Fusion. if return to nebula is in the same place, i will be quite pleased....... as for the crowd and or people running it.....that's another story. then again, each person makes the rave for him/herself. sprockett ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 19:40:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donald sparacin Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: donald sparacin Subject: Re: Poughkeepsie I went to the original Nebula, which was back in January of last year. Actually, the space is the Jewish Community Center in Poughkeepsie and is a gym-like, auditorium place. But a real fun place for a Rave, and this time there won't be only one light. The original Nebula only had the upstairs open, for the return Trip both downstairs and upstairs will be open. The first Nebula only had Scott Richmond, Spy(Disintegrator), Stephan, and Mr. Kleen spinning, this time we have 14 Audio Navigators. It's going to be phat, and if no one is doing anything on Friday and would like to come up early and go to Fusion on Friday night, I can give you a place to crash, just email me or call me before you come. Info on FUSION: FUSION -every friday DJs: Scott Richmond(House/Breakbeat) Mr. Kleen(Trance/Tribal) Sprout(Hardcore) Jamie Hodge(Chicago House) Dave Trance(Caffeine) $5.00 w/ flyer $6.00 w/o LIGHTS by ACME LABS INFO: (914) 256-0445 LOCATION: Exit 18 on the NYS THRUWAY(I-87), make left at light follow for a couple miles until you get to COSMOS-84 Main St., New Paltz.(You will see blue sign for ACID books;actually it says Ariel Books, but us locals like to call it that) COSMOS is right next door to it. Peace from 1994 -> Infinity Kind(Donald Sparacin) sparac50@matrix.newpaltz.edu (914)257-5026 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 20:13:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... In-Reply-To: Apocalypse "What to Buy?....WHAT to buy..." (Feb 12, 5:34pm) On Feb 12, 5:34pm, Apocalypse wrote: > Subject: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... > Question peoples... > > I want to enlarge my rather meager collection of Techno on CD. Any > sugestions? As to now I have This is Techno V. 1&4, Quadrophonia's Cozmic > Jam, and Rave till Dawn. Is this a fair representation of Techno? Am I > fooling myself thinking I like Techno? Just curious. > this my be just my own opinion but this is techno compilation is so bad it should be renamed as this is techcrap,so is rave till dawn--cheeze techno for raadio stations think they are up to date in music. > just my 3 cents jiggarama ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:14:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: La cabra I'm looking for a track that I got in Mexico a while back titled "La Cabra" or the goat in english. Any help would be kul. Also, any promoters/vendors with xtra t-shirts from old events, hell I jest got my paycheck today. /\ooO- A bitch is a ho -Ooo/\ | dtripper@access.digex.net | \/_________________________\/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:33:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH fan Subject: raves in area Rush Quote: "If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice." X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 427 Okay, a few days ago when i wrote and asked this question, i was told that the list would be posted in a couple days...I was wondering when some local raves would take place...lastnight i found a list at ftp stanford that only listed very few raves, and none were in this area. Are there any in the Portsmouth, NH and/or Portland, ME area????? Pleeeeeeease help....NY is a bit too far to travel for right now. Thanks Matt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:45:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Taking!!! DC and UM Raves: I'm taking HOM and ROM additions for the week, please get them to me as soon as you are able to...especiall for RED if you are planning on it...the larger raves are easier to plan rides for way in advance. NE Raves: Please also send me your RED info as soon as you can along with the other upcoming raves. Melzie aka about to celebrate her ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY with an amazing and wonderful man this weekend. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:53:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: this weekend...... Hi all... if you have nothing to do this saturday, may i suggest coming down to richmond for Insomnia's SMOOTH GROOVE with dj's joeski, ryde, sameer and boggle...it should be pretty cool if ultra house-infested :P anyway, it looks like in the second room after 2 am i am gonna be lugging in all my synths and stuff and doing a joint PA with derek...should be fun and interesting, cause we are gonna be throwing down a completly LIVE ambient/ trancy soundscape....not exactly a typical M1 thing, but should be LOTS of fun...if you can come down, please do! -jason/method one ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:55:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Taking!!! Happy anniversary! Best wishes!! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 22:27:25 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Poughkeepsie Anyone going to NEBULA come anywhere near Buffalo? I need a ride and a crash space (not too bloody pitiful, am I?). I can pay a bit for both or either. Lemme know :) PLUR... Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 20:09:49 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Return to Nebula 'The original Nebula space' is the Jewish Community Center located on Grand Avenue in the City of Poughkeepsie. Darshan ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:56:43 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Darshan M. Jesrani" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Darshan M. Jesrani" Subject: Re: thanks and more Shannon, Fuckin right on.. (I'm responding to your message about Dante, BTW). Darshan! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 01:47:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Courtney Lyon Scott Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Courtney Lyon Scott Subject: Taylor/Instinct and more.. Picked up a local Delaware 'zine type thing called "Odor" I was expecting it to be one of those cheesy local rock/punk things but it was actually fairly interesting. One feature was about Instinct records and talked about "two great assets for the Instinct label, Taylor and Dietrich" and featured quotes from both. Just though I'd share my surprise :) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 22:59:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: The Boston Scene is NOT Dead....yet. I wanna help out! if I can :) IF P909is playing, they'll probably want me or someone to sell the tshirts and the tapes I can be roadie too :) or learn how to ake smart drinks :) tina ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 02:25:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donald sparacin Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: donald sparacin Subject: Re: Nebula The original spot at the Jewish Community Center is actually a really phat spot, and luckily for the Nebula Return Trip both upstairs(main hall) and the downstairs(gym) will be open. The first Nebula back in mid-December? only had four djs spinning, Scott Richmond, Mr.Kleen, Spy(Disintegrator), and Stephan on the top floor, this time around we get 14 Sonic Navigators on two floors *<=) Plus ACME lights(The same people who did Casper) doing the lights should be an innermind'seyecstasyexplosion. say that one fast. Anyway if anyone is interested in coming out on Friday and going to FUSION in New Paltz(right across the river), I could probably hook you up with a place to crash. Just email me if you're planning to come up. Here's info from a flyer for this week's FUSION: FUSION-every Friday TIME: 11pm-6am DJS: Scott Richmond(House/Breaks) Mr. Kleen(Galactic Trance) Sprout(Massive Hardcore) Jamie Hodge(Chicago House) Bill Kramer(House/Acid) Dave Trance(Caffeine) COST: $5.00 w/flyer $6.00 w/o LOCATION: Exit 18(NewPaltz/Poughkeepsie) off the NYS Thruway(I-87), make a left at the light, follow for a few miles into downtown New Paltz. You will see a sign that says "Ariel Books" (actually it looks like Acid Books), Fusion is right next door at a space called Cosmos. Everybody is encouraged to come it's a really chill upstate family vibe, and there really is no better way to prime up for the Return to Nebula Experience. INFO:(914)256-0445 --------------------- Kind(Donald Sparacin) sparac50@matrix.newpaltz.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 10:21:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: to clear up about roller rinks In-Reply-To: <199402160212.VAA06398@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 15 Feb 1994, Kristopher Setchfield wrote: > sputnick was in the newburg skate park: not in a roller rink. sputnick was...sputnick3 was at the newberg skate park Peace, jenn-bug Jennifer Smeddy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:11:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Portland Maine event... Cybertribe! Matt had asked about events in Maine and I just wanted to tell you all about "Pen" coming up on April 23rd. It's being put on by K.C. and the Sunrise Gange. There is also goiing to be another party in the Maine area on the 26th of February. I f you want/need more info, call me at (908)724-9711 or K.C. at (207)773-6979. Positive vibes, Mars (marshal hamilton) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:20:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Re: thanks and more In-Reply-To: <199402152157.QAA07269@umd5.umd.edu> Awww, you got to go to Wicked on New Year's Eve in San Francisco?? You are soooooo lucky! Do you go out there often? I've been out to SF two times in the past year and each time was so much fun. The vibe out there is incredible and it is so beautiful. The best time was probably the renegade Full Moon Rave in March at Bonny Dune Beach in Santa Cruz. Wow... --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "Just that gangsta glare..." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 14:34:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Marshal H. Villarosa" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Marshal H. Villarosa" Subject: More ROM Info The Fluid Posse presents... "F L O W E R" Thursday, March 3rd [Note from MARS: This will be a small underground party] featuring Acid Jazz and experimental hip hop in one room with DJ's: Tom LaRoc That Kid Chirs In the second area will be DJ`s: Micro James Christian Sameer It will take place on Long Island Tickets: $6 over 21, $8 underage Call (212)629-1960 for more info. Peace, Mars ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 15:20:04 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: The Boston Scene is NOT Dead....yet. >I wanna help out! if I can :) > >IF P909is playing, they'll probably want me or someone to sell the tshirts >and the tapes > >I can be roadie too :) > >or learn how to ake smart drinks :) > >tina just curious tina, does "wo ai" mean "I love"? I remember your name being I LOVE TAYLOR for the longest time ;) and when I saw wo ai, I thought, who the hell is wo ai? Well, not that this has anything to do with anything else or is relevant to anything important to the universe at all but... ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 16:44:50 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Tressor 1&2 > there are two *really* good, non-commercial trance/acid cd's out there. > i don't think they've been mentioned yet: > Tresor 1 and tresor 2! > both are hard german trance to die for, and the furthest from mainstream > i've ever heard on a cd. Do you know of a place or a way to order these? Can find em anywhere by me... PLUR, Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 16:30:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: Portland Maine event... In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 16 Feb 94 14:11:47 -0500. <9402161912.AA26955@MIT.EDU> that event coming in april in maine is called "Ten" it marks the tenth rave in portland, me. since the first (called sky high, i think) two years ago... maine events are the most consistently fucking slamming parties i've ever been to. shannon ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 16:49:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Poughkeepsie events In-Reply-To: <199402152314.SAA14595@umd5.umd.edu> ok... here is what Scott (Richmond) had told me when we first started talking to one another.... The first nebula party was held in a jewish center type place on the same day and the same place as his batmitzh on his 13th birth day (yes hossam I can spell batmitzh and I can not even spell my own name right half of the time ;) )...and the sputnick party was in the the skating rink. (This whole subjct had come about because of my first "real" event, outside the philly club thing, was to one of his skutnick parties in the fall of 92....wow the memories) Well, I hope that clears all the confusion :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:38:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristin DiPasquo? Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristin DiPasquo? Subject: Re: XTC In-Reply-To: <199402151704.MAA03094@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 15 Feb 1994, Edward Potter wrote: > Also if you can get on The Well. Go Drugs, lot's of x info from > interesting crowd. is there anyway to telnet to the well? (love, posies, dandielions, and cheescake), kristin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 18:17:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Speed Racer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Speed Racer Subject: Return To nebula prestuff okay...someone please hook me up with some info on whether or not there is a gathering b4 Nebula this weekend, cuz if there is...i'm in and i want directions! :) I'll try ta hook you up with some vrave stikkiz too! stay fresh kids, joe ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 18:33:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: Portland Maine event... I think it's going to be called "Ten," as in the 10th party by KC and the Sunrise Gang. ---------- From: NE-RAVES To: Multiple recipients of list NE-RAVES Subject: Portland Maine event... Date: Wednesday, February 16, 1994 14:11 Cybertribe! Matt had asked about events in Maine and I just wanted to tell you all about "Pen" coming up on April 23rd. It's being put on by K.C. and the Sunrise Gange. There is also goiing to be another party in the Maine area on the 26th of February. I f you want/need more info, call me at (908)724-9711 or K.C. at (207)773-6979. Positive vibes, Mars (marshal hamilton) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 20:23:24 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Aphex on 120 mins. BEGIN QUOTE: i would be shocked if MTV didn't try to play it up somehow...less they just blatantly dismiss 'techno' END QUOTE No kidding... that's MTV's problem... they scam on everything. For instance they claim to be the forefront of the music revolution yet they play all the teeny-bopper hits and censor both swears AND questionable visuals from their videos... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 20:29:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Dj Dante Bashing Hey guys... I'm really sorry if I offended anyone, when I said that I was glad I had found that he played SF disco or whatever. I was, however, repeating only what I had already heard from other people in that it was "sped up seventies disco" and I was stating that that's just not my piece of cake. NOT ONCE did I ever insult DJ Dante's character and I feel that some people think I was insulting him... I wasn't. I've never even MET him, and I wouldn't make a judgement on him if I didn't know him. I just don't like that kind of music. Once again, my humblest of apologies. "you want to be alive when it happens..." --C.C. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 20:29:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: raves in area i believe that kc and the sun(rise or gang? i am suffering from a mental block rright now i mean sunrise gang, arehey how are you ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 20:32:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: raves in area sorry about that last post! kc and the surise gang are throwing there tenth rave in portland sometime in april i believe, so checkit out. i will post there info line, but i don't haveit on me now. look out for it though. check you peaz...peppermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 20:14:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: XTC In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 16 Feb 1994 17:38:50 -0500 > is there anyway to telnet to the well? Well you wouldn't want to telnet there unless you had an account with them. I don't know of any way you can ftp to the well but you sure can gopher. Type: gopher gopher.well.sf.ca.us enjoy! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 22:13:09 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mistress loretta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mistress loretta Subject: return to nebula a) there will be a pre-party for nebula at my house starting this friday at 12:45-1:00 am, and ending whenever. This event will be small and intiment (sp) w/ only about 20ppl. Spinning will be DJ's klokwerk, space, and swami. Anybody who wants to come drop me a line for directions, and any DJ's who want to spin drop me a line too...peace b) return to nebula will be in the JCC, and there will be 2 dance floors each can hold <> 600 ppl. c) The trilobite project will be selling its smart snoKones at the party, so look for our booth, come up and introduce yourself....peace out! xx mistress loretta ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 22:22:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: more good cd's In-Reply-To: <199402170050.TAA01373@umd5.umd.edu> well I just had a listen to: the Plastik Man cd and Jeno Reactor cd plus one more cd that has escaped me at the moment...they are all incredible!! You can most likely get all of these cds at your neighborhood record store! Hope this helps... Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 22:26:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: Poughkeepsie events In-Reply-To: <199402170120.UAA05298@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 16 Feb 1994, Jennifer J. Smeddy wrote: > The first nebula party was held in a jewish center type place on > the same day and the same place as his batmitzh on his 13th birth > day (yes hossam I can spell batmitzh and I can not even spell my own name > right half of the time ;) ) except that it would be a BARmitzh wouldn't it? :) seeing as he's a he and all. unless you're talking about another big happening in a young jewish boys life at age thirteen that i don't know about... :) chris ```'' ______________oOO( O-O )OOo______________ | U | | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ || || || || /-, .-\ .-- *| |* --, ~~~~~ ~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 22:48:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: Poughkeepsie events In-Reply-To: On Wed, 16 Feb 1994, secret agent mellow wrote: > except that it would be a BARmitzh wouldn't it? :) seeing as he's a he > and all. ok sue me I am a girl he is a boy I forgot.... (guess you were right hossam)...as my friend Richard always says...."lost again tina" Peace jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 00:19:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Timothy Tim Fong Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Timothy Tim Fong Subject: Re: Your subscription to list NE-RAVES In-Reply-To: <199402100307.AA21308@ponyexpress.princeton.edu> signon ne-raves ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 00:33:27 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: DJ Dante Discotheque In-Reply-To: <9402160006.AA01694@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Dawn DeLuca" at Feb 15, 94 5:27 pm > > Dante is very nice, in fact one of the nicest people I've met in the scene. > One time I was standing around looking sad and he came up to me and offered > to get me in NASA (I was outside on line) for half price to make me feel > better. He ugave out oranges at the limelight. He threw evolution parties and > revelation, and incredible rave, and when it got busted he took the loud > speaker and started speaking about how you could break up a party but not the > feelings. And his music is incredible, no matter what direction its moving > in. He is very talented and a good person. Please stop saying bad things > about somebody that totally doesn't deserve it. And if you don't like his > stlye, fine, chill out with you friends while he's on, but don't ruin him for > other people that have never heard him before. > LOVE>>>>DAWN > hey we all have our own opinions of the man. if one person has something to say lettem, if not its not free speach man and an;t that what its all about? doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______feel the music soft and mellow____ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 01:46:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francois Dion Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francois Dion Subject: Re: more good cd's In-Reply-To: <199402170444.XAA00687@umd5.umd.edu> from "Jennifer J. Smeddy" at Feb 16, 94 10:22:56 pm Dans la Matrice, Jennifer J. Smeddy a dit: > > well I just had a listen to: the Plastik Man cd and Jeno Reactor cd plus one Juno Reactor. Excellent album. There's also some new Novamute comp that's worth checking. At the station these CDs were classified under New age !! Well... what do i care now, i've left the station. Will probably end up doing a techno capsule on a commercial station... Juno was a line of synth from Roland and is fairly popular in techno bands. It is in the vein of 808 State, Moog Art etc... Hey, let's compose band names: Sequential Poets, Axxe Murderers :P, Oberheim Turbine, Mirage People .... :) :) Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' .sig under reconstruction _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 02:33:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: BeccaMD got accepted!! Hi there to all of my friends out across the U.S. I am not writing this simply to take up space in your mailboxes, I just wanted to let you all share in my ha ppiness. :) I just got a letter of acceptance to The George Washington School o f Businees and Health Administration as a Master's degree candidate. Since this is a virtual community, and I am getting around to meeting/taking photos of a lot of you all, I wanted to let you hear something positive in my l ife :) If any of you are going to Delta II this weekend, I hope to meet you there, ( tho I need a ride ;) as itis I will be in town until the end of May then it i s off to home in Sacramento for the summer, and back for grad school in the fal l. Wish me luck...and see you soon! PLUR! BeccaMD :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 03:33:52 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Roland In-Reply-To: <199402170321.WAA20387@umd5.umd.edu> I don't remember who posted that they were trying to sell their drum machine because they didn't really need it and bought it on a whim but this guy here who is part of a brown project called PONG needs one and is looking to buy used 808 or such... post here and call him Sean Shea 401 333 2908 enough fer now yer faithful boy Paul Paul ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 03:37:15 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: For sale: Well, I purchased two Sony 200W/each speakers, and I realize now that they are way too big for my little dorm room at school or my little apartment back home. Therefore, I am selling them: $200.00 for the pair. They've had minimal use----> I can't pump them up because my RA keeps on bitching. :( Anyone interested must be able to drop by the albany area to pick them up. They are 3 way speakers with 12" woofers, a 4" midrange, and a 1&1/2" tweeter. They are about 3' high, and 1' wide and deep. btw---->I've noticed that the record stores at the mall have started carrying some really amazing compilations. Once I get my credit card bill down a bit, I'll be able to buy some of them. *grin* Is this a localized 'albany' thing, or are other people noticing the same trend of chain/mall record stores carrying pretty decent cd's? -Akeera ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 07:54:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Citizen Kane Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Citizen Kane Subject: Re: Portland Maine event... this would be 10 as in ten! it is the thenth event. /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ \ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land / /IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine Use OS/2, it'll change your life\ \ If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? / /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 10:04:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Delta II Revisited Okay folks. I am heading up to Philadelphia for Delta II tomorrow sometime. Just wondering who else was going and whether we should meet up at some point? I have two or three spaces available in my car for anyone in the DC/Balt. area who would care to head up (and share expenses). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 12:35:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , AI3264@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: AI3264@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: ....HOUSE ....did anyone pick up volume 3 of The Cream of Underground House.....WOW..it's damn gooood!.......also what I meant to ask is does anyone know of any good deep/progressive house cds out there besides the more well known ones (Strictly Rhythm, Nervous, Tomato, the Artic cds, Tribal, Murk ect.....) SquiggleMan- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 13:40:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: DJ Dante Discotheque In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 17 Feb 1994 00:33:27 EDT Well, I just thought if you don't have something nice to say, among friends, don't say it at all. And I thought *ravers* (I know lots of you don't like that word-sorry) were supposed to be friends. Saying a dj's skull should be cracked isn't very nice. LOVE>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 15:08:24 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: ....HOUSE In-Reply-To: <199402171743.MAA08251@umd5.umd.edu> the Limbo comp kicks my ass. even though it sounds deathly slow since its all zeroed on the cd...and me no have cd with pitch control. bye the songs are still great. chris ```'' ______________oOO( O-O )OOo______________ | U | | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ || || || || /-, .-\ .-- *| |* --, ~~~~~ ~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:32:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: HOM!!!!! Hey ya'll!!! Here's the HOM of the week...... Yeah, that's about it....Sorry, my life is interesting..and taking up too much time...I have March PACKED with audtions for scholarships and two huge papers due...my anniversary :)... my best friend that I haven't really seen in about 2 years is coming for a visit...and my mom's B-day is next week..... So enjoy!!! Hugz and squeezles.... Melzie aka The Valentine Coconut **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, February 18 DELTA II Phili, PA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen Houghton [HOLDING PRE-PARTY] houghton@sas.upenn.edu Paul aka Papa [NEEDS RIDE-PROV,RI] papa@world.std.com Becca [NEEDS RIDE-MD] RC3116A@american.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu Daniel Philpott "free love" anaechy@eng.umd.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, February 19 NEBULA NEW YORK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mistress Loretta [HOLDING PRE-PARTY] NISK017@albany.albany.edu Apocolypse [NEEDS RIDE (BUFFALO) AND CRASH SPACE] HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU Will-E [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] kia@EDEN.rutgers.edu PHIL Z [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] JUST MAIL WILL-E Paul aka Papa [NEEDS RIDE-PROV, RI] papa@world.std.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, February 19 SMOOTH GROOVE Richmond, VA -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Tiffany [CAN OFFER CRASH SPACE AND A PRE-PARTY] [HAS ONE DOLLAR COUPONS FOR IT] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Jason Method 1 lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 5 FANTASY PROJECT Upstate, NY ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu Jenn-Bug [BUS TRIP FROM PA] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, March 11 KICK IT Philli, PA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jenn-Bug smed8781@smed.csv.kutztown.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 12 TIMEWARP II [resched] NY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, March 26 RED Boston, MA ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kristopher Setchfield [ride needed-Boston] kumquat@asc.bu.edu Steve aka Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu Jenn-bug [BUS TRIP FROM PA] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Neith! [TAKING SUGGESTIONS FOR A PRE-PARTY] ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday. March 26 MOMENTUM Lexingtin, KY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [NEEDS RIDE-MD] RC3116A@american.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, April 4 PLEASURE DOME Washington, DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Becca [NEEDS RIDE-MD] RC3116A@american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 05:28:27 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: SPEAKERS...A question... People... Any one know of a good brand of speakers that are cheap? I have a Sony portable system and the speaks suck. I's like speakers that can handle bass and volume but also handle the high-end. (A-lot of my non-Techno stuff is classical) Any thoughts? P.L.U.R> Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 15:59:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Read this Peppermint Patty! {Sorry if I bothered other netters...} Jen! I need your e-mail address! I need to talk about my zine and of course drop you a friendly line.. I just lost it and I'm pissed 'cuz I wrote it down and I can't find it..grrrrrr Peace! DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:22:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Aphex on 120 mins. f f [-&a7a ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:40:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Portland Maine event... can someone post the info line for this one again? i seem to have lost it thanks...pepermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:46:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Vendors... If anyone is interested in renting a table for my next event on March 12th drop me a line and Ill give you info. ...Spam (Chris) *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:52:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: Loony? In-Reply-To: <2D63FADC@msmsmtp.pageworks.com> On Thu, 17 Feb 1994, Wei-En Chang wrote: > > Hey bro, what's up with the 26th? > Haven't heard anything... > Yes I have finally given up on doing a party on the full-moon of February 26th in Providence...As I haven`t made many posts and no-one else had posted that they were doing an event.. the few posts and very tentitive committments should have created very little problems... A very dilegent search was conducted for a location which would be adequate, had an opening on that weekend, and was ok with working with me, Unfortuately the only places I found were outside of Providence city making transportation more difficult... of course if this was a large event it wouldn't be a problem but it isn`t and I don`t want to do an event at a roller rink... (sorry to those who like that kind of event... just not my thing)---> So now I`m working on a few other things... first here at Brown there is a GOED (festival in some VA school) - like festival going on here in the middle of April where all kinds of electronic music/ visual artists especially of the computer generated kind are asked to convene and experiment... it is called PONG and you can post here if you are interested... 2) that weekend in question (25-27th) I am going to as manyh little happenings as possible. Nate might have a house party for internetters in Upstate NY on Friday---> Kristopher Sheffield (aka Sprockett) may have a little shindig in a music studio in Boston on Saturday... I saw some post about KC and Sunrise gang doing a party on the 26th also that Saturday although it may have been a mis-post : I will call him ASAP 3) Location search is continuing with some assistance for future dates... Oh well ... it was a crazy idea (LOONY) that is . Paul Paul :( ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 20:46:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: Re: Aphex on 120 mins. In-Reply-To: <199402172326.SAA14731@umd5.umd.edu> from "PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM" at Feb 17, 94 06:22:17 pm If you want to see techno music videos you should watch "Cyberia" on U Network. The show features computer animation and music video. Video featured have been from Humate, Cosmic Baby, Gemini 6, Moby, Axon, Orb, Paperboy 2000, DHS, Microglobe, and others. A list of U Network affiliate stations that air the program is on techno.stanford.edu in the /pub/raves/media/television/ directory. - Rob ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 21:02:25 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: essence question..... Hey all! I know this was a while ago, Thanksgiving, to be exact, but I was wondering if anyone who went to Essence knows the DJ who was spinning around 8-9am. Maybe it's because I was in an altered state, but I thought it was an incredible trance set. :) Thanks! -Dan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:11:44 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , lindaleigh Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: lindaleigh@AOL.COM Subject: Pre Delta Meal-A-Roo Hi everybody, Linda and Rob here. Our internet gateway (on AOL) is being futzed around with at the moment, and we're not getting any mail... We'd like to hook up witch you who are going to Delta II for the pre-event meal-a-roo, but we don't know where or when it is. Could some kind net-samaritan give us a ring to let us know...? Our #is like 215-579-4264. Thanx for the help and we'll see you there. Linda ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 23:23:13 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mistress loretta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mistress loretta Subject: Re: For sale: In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 17 Feb 1994 03:37:15 -0500 from akeera, I might be interrested in those speakers (I blew mine out:) )....I'll get back to you on it...oh are you comming over friday? xx mistress loretta ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 22:30:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: Vendors... In-Reply-To: <199402180015.TAA20378@umd5.umd.edu> >DATE: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 18:46:41 EST >FROM: Ashley Goebel >...Spam (Chris) > > *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* > | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | > | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | > | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | > *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* > | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | > *------------------------------------------------------------------------* Chris, You live in Ronkonkoma?! Truly a small world, as I also live in the same burg. I moved out here from Copiague in 1969. Are you going to any of the parties this Saturday. I might bve going to either Spice or Nebula, but I'm not totally sure. Take it easy. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 01:25:58 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: essence question..... > I know this was a while ago, Thanksgiving, to be exact > but I was wondering if anyone who went to Essence knows the DJ who was > spinning around 8-9am. That would be Essence 4. I think it was one of the San Fransisco DJs. One of the Hardkiss brothers or someone else. My memory is foggy too but tell me this, what was it like? was it funky house? ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 02:08:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , kzimmerman@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: marauding tribes fuck all your peacefulness... supposing. peacefulness is not a virtue, rather it is the death of instinct. well!!! let us suppose that RAVE CULTURE (which is dead and is lackinf a new instinct) becomes the new pole for a new human drive, an old one: THE WILL TO POWER (sorry to steal from Nietzsche so badly) suppose the Ravers are a marauding tribe of Celtic-type bastards, drinking, fucking, messing as they feel no doctine which is higher, "Christian": ANTI-CHRISTIAN: anti-pity, anti-meekness, anti-INHUMAN why should the lamb make the bird of prey accountable? I AM EVIL. This is Kreig, Kreig is evil. Thus sayeth his family. Kreig Zimmerman=War Capenter. Evil-Builder, then? Perhaps we should reconsider what is virtue. Perhaps the virtue is NOT Behlendorf timidity, perhaps it is Zimmerman EVIL carpenter:builder: why should i suppress this instinct? what about a tribe, Hittite, Hyksos, red-haired (check your beard) which marauds, conquers, subjects, suppresses, this weakness, this fallibility. PERHAOS STRENGTH SHOULD BE VIRTUE AGAIN. Why should the Helleno-Roman lose against the Jewish, against the doctrine of Saul/Paul? Why become Indian, Nirvan-seeking? Fuck the Camus in us. Bliss=Power? Should we desire such? YES. Perhaps Rave Philosophy should be a "Revaluations of all Values". Perhaps we should understand the HUMAN virtues. The virtue which makes such as Kreig violent. Evil-violent. But constructive. Cannot Kreig, paint, draw? Picture the cat of virtue, upon his Yearbook. Which decides, who creates, who thinks, who builds? Must the conversation of email always be sickenly saddened? Must all instinct be Shannonized, the most artificial I have met?! Please, let it be Jesse-ized, at least he unders tands his weak-sadness, that he is Jesse. UNDERSTAND: choose to be slave or master? WHO WISHES TO FIGHT?! The Rave Culture is SICK: it lacks a will. It does not BE. It wanted to IS, but IS is not enough. BE is all. House BE. Rave IS... and is is sick. So, diagnosis, repentance: ill of simplicity, or Desire? Desire BE, or desire NAUGHT. Kreig desire be, and kick trance-ass persons silly. Combat is mine. Choose, and will. Respect and kindness of REAL virtue. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 05:49:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: marauding tribes In-Reply-To: <199402181020.FAA00480@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 18 Feb 1994, wrote: > fuck all your peacefulness... > > supposing. peacefulness is not a virtue, rather it is the death of instinct. > > well!!! let us suppose that RAVE CULTURE (which is dead and is lackinf > a new instinct) > > becomes the new pole for a new human drive, an old one: > > THE WILL TO POWER (sorry to steal from Nietzsche so badly) Wow, it looks like someone read too much of philosophy 101 one night and exploded. RIP, Kreig. Hope you feel better in the morning. But, as for what you are saying here. Yes, Rave philosophy is very static, very non-violent, very un-seeking. But this is good, it's our place and what alot of us seek. If we wanted to be vitriolic seekers of material pleasures we could always go gangstarap and sell drugs (sorry to stereotype, no offense intended) or go metal and hate without direction. But that's not what I (and I hope we) are here for. We seek pleasure in a hedonistic fasion, through our dancing, through our beats, through our drugs and through our friends. Violence begets violence and there is very little pleasure in being victimized. Hmm, I am making as little sense as Kreig. Anyhow, chalk it up to us being the pacifist gathering of tribes. The ones that will sit out the wars and smoke our hookahs high on the hills above our slayen breathren. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 06:26:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Re: marauding tribes In-Reply-To: <199402181023.FAA00658@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 18 Feb 1994, wrote: > fuck all your peacefulness... > supposing. peacefulness is not a virtue, rather it is the death of instinct. > well!!! let us suppose that RAVE CULTURE (which is dead and is lackinf > a new instinct) > becomes the new pole for a new human drive, an old one: > THE WILL TO POWER (sorry to steal from Nietzsche so badly) > suppose the Ravers are a marauding tribe of Celtic-type > bastards, drinking, fucking, messing as they feel > no doctine which is higher, "Christian": > ANTI-CHRISTIAN: anti-pity, anti-meekness, anti-INHUMAN > why should the lamb make the bird of prey accountable? > I AM EVIL. This is Kreig, Kreig is evil. Thus sayeth his family. > Kreig Zimmerman=War Capenter. Evil-Builder, then? > Perhaps we should reconsider what is virtue. Perhaps the virtue > is NOT Behlendorf timidity, perhaps it is Zimmerman EVIL > carpenter:builder: why should i suppress this instinct? what about > a tribe, Hittite, Hyksos, red-haired (check your beard) which marauds, > conquers, subjects, suppresses, this weakness, this fallibility. > PERHAOS STRENGTH SHOULD BE VIRTUE AGAIN. Why should the Helleno-Roman > lose against the Jewish, against the doctrine of Saul/Paul? > Why become Indian, Nirvan-seeking? Fuck the Camus in us. > Bliss=Power? > Should we desire such? YES. Perhaps Rave Philosophy should be a "Revaluations > of all Values". Perhaps we should understand the HUMAN virtues. The virtue > which makes such as Kreig violent. Evil-violent. But constructive. > Cannot Kreig, paint, draw? Picture the cat of virtue, upon his Yearbook. > Which decides, who creates, who thinks, who builds? Must the conversation > of email always be sickenly saddened? Must all instinct be Shannonized, the > most artificial I have met?! Please, let it be Jesse-ized, at least he unders > tands his weak-sadness, that he is Jesse. > UNDERSTAND: choose to be slave or master? > WHO WISHES TO FIGHT?! > The Rave Culture is SICK: it lacks a will. It does not BE. It wanted to IS, > but IS is not enough. BE is all. House BE. Rave IS... and is is sick. > So, diagnosis, repentance: ill of simplicity, or Desire? Desire BE, > or desire NAUGHT. Kreig desire be, and kick trance-ass persons silly. > Combat is mine. Choose, and will. Respect and kindness of REAL > virtue. First when I was reading this I thought it was a poem..and yaknow what... I still do..if some of the prose-y lines were into poetic form this would make an "angry passion" poem....and a pretty good one... Sorry....just my opinion Melzie aka The Valentine Coconut ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 09:17:12 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: myseland dietrich tina told me that there was some article in a delawae zine that mentioned dietrich and i and something about instinct .. mindvox hasn't been giving me much of any mail for the past 3 days..s o, i never saw the post... is there anyone who still has the post (fluid?) or better yet, the zine article? (fluid? :) i'd love to see either... preferably the latter peace xo >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 10:00:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: jenn-bug/delta In-Reply-To: <199402172236.RAA09515@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 17 Feb 1994, wrote: > {Sorry if I bothered other netters...} > > Jen! > I need your e-mail address! I need to talk about my zine and of course drop > you a friendly line.. I just lost it and I'm pissed 'cuz I wrote it down and > I can't find it..grrrrrr i'm right here... smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu oh yeah, Mars and I are heading out to Delta 2 tonight hope to see you all...would anyone be interested in meaning ahead of time at Philadelphia Pizza Company (on south street) let's say 8ish?? What do you all think? Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:36:55 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan English Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan English Subject: Re: maurading tribes last may, i had a revelation while dancing. i decided that it doesnt matter at all who your ARE, as long as you know who you are. then you are BEING. BEING is being aware. awareness is the state of BEING. so you can BE a big war hungry creep like kreig ( you know i love you) or you can BE a drunken fool, or you can BE a peaceful person on the oustide as well as inside. some people find who they are ( and start to BE) through evil, some through love, and most people never find out at all. who you ARE is your nature, not human nature, so shut up Kreig. love, -whoever. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 16 Feb 1994 12:20:25 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... just some $0.02$ for a hard sound on cd try artist release 3phase schlagenfarm (spelling may be tweaked) novamute comp. version 1.1 KADO comp. Strictly for the Hardcore Harthouse comp. Point of No Return, Chapter 1 for a trance sound Rising High comp. Trance Injection (taylor did cool artwork!!) for an acidy sound Orbital (god what is the name; full length cd brown label) (has halcyon, remind, impact. good stuff, get it) for a groovy sound ffrr comp. California Dreaming Caroline comp. Excursions in Ambience 1 or 2 Orb Live 93 (too bad you missed the show; (I like the obvious play with the Pink Floyd Animals artwork) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:07:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Stephen P. Houghton" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Stephen P. Houghton" Subject: Re: DELTA In-Reply-To: <199402181536.KAA20471@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Jennifer J. Smeddy" at Feb 18, 94 10:00 am This is BPA, stephen, and sorry I haven't been posting evrybooty info on tonight. DELTA II is happening in Philly, and I will be there. I have four necklaces, one for me, one for fran and two others. If you don't get one of those, Nigel said he will ahve more at the store. I don't have time to get into detail. But I can only show up at the party after midnight. SO pre plans will have to be made by phone or personal mail. Stephen, 731-9918 or houghton@mail.sas.upenn.edu Fran, call me, you too WillE be well, boyPrincealbert ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:29:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... In-Reply-To: <199402181812.NAA10060@umd5.umd.edu> from "brendan mcdougall" at Feb 16, 94 12:20:25 pm > Orb Live 93 (too bad you missed the show; > (I like the obvious play with the Pink Floyd Animals > artwork) ...which was an obvious follow-on to the KLF Chill Out play with the Atom Heart Mother cover. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:11:24 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: I hate those techno rave dance parties Cybertribe! Techno dance music and all night dance "rave" parties suck. Love, Mars (p.s. See you all at Philly Pizza Company before "Delta 2" tonight, maybe tomorrow at "Spice," March 2nd at "Pulse-8", March 5th at "The Fantasy Project," March 11th at "Kick It," March 12th at Timewarp2," March 19th at "Spiritual Movement 3," and March 26th at "Red." Maybe I should change the oil in my car...) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:50:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: Re: DELTA In-Reply-To: <199402181843.NAA14110@umd5.umd.edu> hey!! everyone go to philly pizza comp. on south street below 5th street at like 8 or so...ask nigel if you can not find it... hope to see you all there :) Peace, jennifer smeddy jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:35:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , R_FAGEN@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: R_FAGEN@PAVO.CONCORDIA.CA UNSUBSCRIBE Randee Fagen ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:10:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Steve Hormell Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Steve Hormell Subject: Re: DELTA Hey all, I have a few extra necklaces as well. It's kind of funny, last time Nigel was very uptight about them, this time i asked and he handed me several without question. Philly pizza company sounds okay to me...the food is pretty good and i haven't been there in a while. If you need directions or necklace or anything else, call me at 215-574-9787. My house is only 3 blocks from the site so....... :) fluffhead ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:37:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: marauding tribes In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 18 Feb 1994 02:08:41 -0500 post-modernism must end sometime Dawn ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:50:35 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: marauding tribes In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 18 Feb 1994 05:49:57 -0500 The Will to Power, and idea by Nietzche (I might not have spelt it right, but I know what I'm talking about), was brought up by Kreig. Besides the fact that Nietzche is one of the most misunderstood philosophers ever, he also thought of something called the superior man. What he meant by it is that purpose is given to life by trying to improve oneself so that all may be improved someday. Anger and violence do nothing if people don't improve themselves. The outspoken pacifism of the 60's obviously did not work. (hence the 80's) They had their philosophy of just being themselves, but it didn't last. Now, ravers may not have a cohesive movement to fight for what we believe in, but I think as is obvious from all of us going to college, grad school, and just generally trying to be good we are trying to work from the bottom up. So maybe nobody is proclaiming their BEing, and it may appear we all just passively dance or whatever, but I don't think it is nothing. I hope this makes sense, I'm sorry if it doesn't, and I'm sorry if I'm writing too much. But I had to say it. LOVE>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:52:56 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: essence question..... In-Reply-To: <199402180219.VAA04401@umd5.umd.edu> i wasn't there but I'd guess it was laurent garnier from france his awesome i heard him at his local club in France around the same time... oof course he is too well known among local so they don't apreciate him as much ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:25:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: Aphex on 120 mins. >If you want to see techno music videos you should watch "Cyberia" on U >Network. The show features computer animation and music video. Video >featured have been from Humate, Cosmic Baby, Gemini 6, Moby, Axon, Orb, >Paperboy 2000, DHS, Microglobe, and others. > >A list of U Network affiliate stations that air the program is on >techno.stanford.edu in the /pub/raves/media/television/ directory. > >- Rob I've checked out that list of Cyberia affiliates and I don't think I'll ever be anywhere near a place that I can watch it. Does anyone have episodes of it on tape and would like to sell it to me? I'll pay for the tape, the shipping, the packaging, and a couple dollars for your troubles... peace ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "These are not my figures I'm quoting. They're |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| from someone who knows what he's talking about." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - unknown congressman in debate |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:50:03 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Hey folks.. I am thinking about starting a small operation to feed myself. Basically, what I want to do is create a list of all the DJs I can lay my scraggly little hands on so that promoters know who is available and then do contacts for them. Anyone interested? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:56:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: marauding tribes man o man....kreig, have you been sniffing airplane glue again? :) -j/m1 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 16:25:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio unscribe christina marinaccio ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:03:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: essence question..... In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:52:56 -0500 > i wasn't there but I'd guess it was laurent garnier from france nope, Garnier was on earlier in the night. The San Fransisco DJs took over with either Jeno or Garth (I forget which but defintely not one of the Hardkiss brothers as I thought previously, that was Universal Vibe) at 7 - 8 am. He played a really funky set that changed the whole mood of the night and someone else from San Fransisco (I'm pretty sure it was Thomas) was on from 8 - 9 am and this is the time slot Dan was curious about. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:46:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: SPICE If anyone is going (or wants to go) to SPICE this Saturday... It's in Brooklyn at a location revealed at 718-390-7498 on the day of the event. Hope to see you there... dave. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:43:52 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Pete Ashdown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Pete Ashdown Subject: Rip off in SLC, be on the lookout This is a notice to the entire nation of ravers of what happened here in Salt Lake City last week. I am sending this out so this person can be stopped, and also so our city isn't completely black-balled over the incidident. I was not in attendance. The decay of a scene I fathered and fostered drove me away completely at the beginning of the year. The last time I DJ'd was in honor of the death of two good friends. Kevin Carlton was the only other DJ in town who I related with on musical and non-rave terms. Alan (who was his best friend, and also died in the car accident) and Kevin always were the last to leave. They truly embodied the spirit of the original scene I was so enthralled with. Davey Wallbeck did not. His promotions were always cash influenced and geared in a rip-off manner. He had been arrested previously for check-writing and had continue to finance several of his promotions in the same way. The last time I DJ'd, I received a flyer from him for a rave in which the Hardkiss brothers would be playing. I had met Robbie previously, and ran into Scott via Jon Drukman at the Orb at Warfield. I felt bad that their introduction to Salt Lake City would be through Davey. However, I never expected the resulting disaster to ensue. I was phoned yesterday by a friend who told me that Davey had not only shafted the Hardkisses on their payment, but had left town with all the rental equipment as well. All in all, he stole a U-Haul trailer, several thousand dollars worth of lights, and probably in excess of $10K of sound equipment. Even though I am not associated with the scene anymore, I know how difficult it will be for the other promoters remaining to throw gigs now. I have no idea where Davey has gone, but be on the lookout for him. He is about 5'9" with long black hair. He is almost oriental in appearance and has a big greasy grin on most of the time. If you run into him, REPORT HIM. DO NOT SUPPORT him, or you run the risk of your scene being tarnished as well. On behalf of Salt Lake City, I apologize to the Hardkisses and Hardkiss Music over the entire mess. People like Orbital, Garth, Carlos, Moonpub, Mark E. Quark, Eli Star, and more know what kind of good treatment is possible in Salt Lake. I wish I could only make it up to you. There are only three names that I can absolutely recommend to DJs who are thinking about coming to Salt Lake. My own, TASTE, which for the most part is only doing small, free, outdoor events, Playscool, and Mechanized. If anyone else talks to you, get your cash in advance. Please feel free to print this and distribute to record and clothing shops. This person must be stopped. Pete Ashdown XDZebra ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 17:44:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Morris Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Morris Subject: Re: Hey folks.. In-Reply-To: <199402182219.RAA14931@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 18 Feb 1994, danFREELove wrote: > I am thinking about starting a small operation to feed myself. > Basically, what I want to do is create a list of all the DJs I can lay my > scraggly little hands on so that promoters know who is available and then > do contacts for them. Anyone interested? > > Dan > ME! ME! ME! (*ha*) Add me on your list, Dan my man! DJ PaniK a.k.a. M^2 (M squared) a.k.a. Michael Mayhem Master (or just an advanced student) of organized chaos through sound using the styles of breakbeat and house. Coming to an asylum near you! panik@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 18:16:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: essence question..... In-Reply-To: <199402182157.QAA11608@umd5.umd.edu> from "Paul J Gaydos" at Feb 18, 94 02:52:56 pm > > i wasn't there but I'd guess it was laurent garnier from france his > awesome i heard him at his local club in France around the same time... > oof course he is too well known among local so they don't apreciate him > as much > While we are talking about France and DJs, does anyonw know of any cool clubs in Paris?? There is a good chance that I will be there next winter and I would love to check out the local scene.....? Just Wondering ;) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 18:12:39 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Nebula tickets This might seem like a dumb question, but are they going to be selling Return to Nebula tickets at the door? I'll see you folks there. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 18:33:46 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Forwarded Mail from: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) In-Reply-To: <9402182331.AB09805@mindvox.phantom.com> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to umdd.UMD.EDU: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 User 'neraves' Unknown 550 neraves@umdd.umd.edu... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by mindvox.phantom.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09795; Fri, 18 Feb 94 18:31:28 EST To: neraves@umdd.umd.edu Subject: Forwarded Mail from: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) From: sashay@mindvox.phantom.com (Ashley Goebel) Message-Id: <57uyHc1w165w@mindvox.phantom.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 18:31:27 EST In-Reply-To: <9402182124.AB04742@mindvox.phantom.com> Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to umdd.UMD.EDU: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 User 'ne-rave' Unknown 550 ne-rave@umdd.umd.edu... User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: Received: by mindvox.phantom.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04733; Fri, 18 Feb 94 16:24:27 EST To: ne-rave@umdd.umd.edu Subject: March 12th From: sashay@mindvox.phantom.com (Ashley Goebel) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 94 16:19:52 EST Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) I was just wondering...is anyone planning on making it to my event on March 12th. The line-up is gonna be really cool, and its gonna be on Long Island. Ill have a special cybertribe reduced price, and probobly a cybertribe vip room. So far confirmed DJ's are Micro (Caffeine/Essence/Sorted Records), Sameer (Caffeine/Essence), and Omar (Long Island Underground/LI Outlaw). All our other DJ's will be confirmed by Sunday. Im not definate yet but we might have a new talent room...If we do anyone interested in spinning in that room drop me a line. And anyone interested in promotions e-mail me back ASAP. Thanks... ...Spam (Chris) *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 18:32:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Plasma1000? Sorry to post this to everyone, but Plasma1000 if you are out there send me E-Mail, I have some questions I need to ask you.... Thanks :) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 18:34:24 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: OUTLAW AFTER HOURS TONIGHT If anyone is going to Outlaw in NYC tonight, just wanna tell everyone that me and the Island Vibe Family will be throwing an underground after hours with DJ's Sameer, Omar, Focus, Quest, and Joeski. If youre interested in going the event will be free (we request a donation though, so that we throw more free events). For more info you can the VibeLine at 516-576-2520. ...spam (chris) *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:01:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: Net-Gathering Sorry I took so long to get the word out, folks, but I wanted to be *sure* this was goin down....... NET-GATHERING FRI FEB 25th, TROY, NY A gathering of the cybertribe at Jujubee's in Troy (near Albany). DJs include: sprockett, dave space, others tba. This will be a *small* gathering (100-150 ppl) at Jigsaw's (big, empty) apartment. We will be asking for a donation (under $5, tba when we figure out how much this will all cost ;). Come Friday night and stay for DJ Klokwerk's party at Falstaff's Saturday night (another small, PLURy event :) There are a *lot* of NE-ravers in Albany, so there will be plenty of crash space for you all. Albany NEt-ravers, please post if you have crash space available. Albany is *very* centrally located for the East Coast, around 3 hours from NYC, Boston, Syracuse (?) Directions from major cities will be posted soon. Net-DJs: Get word to me, we will have as many of you spin as there are hours in the night! jimmy-hat, mars, entox, symbion, panik? anyone who (sorry) didn't immediately spring to mind? OK cybertibe, we provide the space/event you provide the vibe. Bring anything you think will be cool, email me before hand telling me what you want to bring/do and I will figure out how to accomodate you. Phone me (almost) any time at: (518) 273-1076. Our answering machine isn't working, tho (sorry). Evening (5-11 or so) is best for me. peace everyone :) -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:06:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: ride needed: Albany to nebula Hey everyone. My roomate, Zeus, and I need rides from the Albany area to Nebula. Sorry for the short notice but if anyone can accomodate us, we'd really appreciate it. Of course, we'd give $ for gas, troubles. Please email *and*/or call (518)273-1076. If we can, we will be there *with*bells*on* (probably not literally ;) I am a short guy (5'2") with a beard. I will probably be wearing a tall black (or red and black) tophat and (possibly) dark, bug-eye swim goggles. I tend to stand out (even in a rave crowd :) See you all there! pieces -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:20:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Scott D Isaacson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Scott D Isaacson Subject: Cartoons and Films! In-Reply-To: <199402181435.JAA16084@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu>; from "@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:NE-RAVES@UMDD.BITNET" at Feb 18, 94 2:08 am Hey all! OK, this is my first post, so don't flame me too badly, but then again I could use the warmth. OK, I've graduated from school and have entered the "real world" *shudder*. I'm a graphic designer and have recently bought a mac quadra 950. I have it hooked up to a projection TV so I can project my stuff. I have a couple cartoons that I wrote and projecting it on this one wall in my apartment is real trippy. My question is, are there any places where you can FTP cartoons? I'm dying to have a rave where I can show other artists cartoons while showing off some DJ's. Also, anyone know where I can find black and white films? Went to a rave in Buffalo last semester where there were tons of old Bela Lugosi films playing on the walls (hence my above idea) and I loved it! I'd love to put some of this in my stuff. OK, 'nuff of me, you people take over. LittleBoy. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:40:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristopher Setchfield Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristopher Setchfield Subject: space productions' BIRTH: will be occurring on june 25th, 1994 in upstate new york. this will be a tribal gathering of the sort that has never been experienced before. we are seeking percussionists and ideas... info, etc...518.43.BIRTH and/or kumquat@acs.bu.edu and, for the rom: June 25, 1994 518.43.BIRTH Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast: Ottowa Montreal Quebec *----------------*----------------* I I Plattsburgh I I Saratoga I I Toronto Rochester Albany Springfield Boston *---------*------*-------------*------------------*--------------------* Buffalo Syracuse / I I I / I I I / I I I / Poughkeepsie Hartford Providence Binghamton I I I New Haven I NYC I \ / \ / Long Island / Philly I I Baltimore & Washington this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:43:08 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: essence question..... In-Reply-To: <199402182201.RAA12266@umd5.umd.edu> Paul writes: >DATE: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 14:52:56 -0500 >FROM: Paul J Gaydos > >i wasn't there but I'd guess it was laurent garnier from france his >awesome i heard him at his local club in France around the same time... >oof course he is too well known among local so they don't apreciate him >as much The earlier poster mentioned the time slot of 8-9 AM. Laurent Garnier was spinning around 5-5:30-6-ish. By the way, I just got off the phone with Fish (Rishad). His account is kind of wacked, so if you've tried getting in contact with him and received bounced mail, that's why. He's going to try and access ne-raves via his Bitnet account. I'll be at Nebula with Margaret (my fiancee) and Fish as well. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 20:06:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: ARGHGHGHGHG!!!!! Hello lovelies, once again the trusty folks at SUNYSB have fouled up my mail and as a result i'm only left with 9 mail messages from last year as a cruel *thwap* to my countless lost messages :( :( :( foolish me for not saving my stuff on time, right? oh well, if anyone sent me anything exciting, important or inflammatory in the last week or so, could you find it in your heart to send it to me again at the following addy? rquazi@ccvm.sunysb.edu this is the loneliest machine on campus, and hence the most reliable when it comes to mail and other life-support functions :) by the good graces of Bob Baxter i shall be hopefully going to the Nebula party up in Poughkeepsie this weekend and i hope to see at leastt a few of you up there! until next time, peace and hugs!! - Rishad . ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 17 Feb 1994 16:59:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: more good cd's In-Reply-To: <199402170746.CAA17747@umd5.umd.edu> Francois Dion writes: > Juno Reactor. Excellent album. There's also some new Novamute comp that's > worth checking. At the station these CDs were classified under New age !! yeah, Novamute v1.1 is definitely a nice compilation to get. The only problem with it is that it's awfully short for two CDs (neither of the discs is more than 50 minutes). > Hey, let's compose band names: Sequential Poets, Axxe Murderers :P, > Oberheim Turbine, Mirage People .... :) :) AHHH! noooo! :-) Of course there's always 2600 Maniacs & 101 Dubbassmen :) - Dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 02:14:47 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: Re: maurading tribes i didnt mean to sound like i was a war-hungry creep. lets say i was in a pugnacious mood that night. anyone who knows me knows im not dripping blood from my lips. :::::::::::::::::::: Beavis & Butthead Marxism: "Property sucks. Huh huh huh." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 02:20:52 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: P.S.A. sorry for subjecting you to over-Nietscheanized, self-realized, leftover from the night out on the town thinking... DONT DRINK AND EMAIL becsue then youll end up in a situation where your thought is tuck on something petty and you whip up a huge intellectual furor about it DONT DRINK AND EMAIL cuz youll make yourself sound like a sick motherfucker. But, its my sin. PS my original remark about Dante was provoked by this really awful djing performance he had last April at Grin. anyway, sorry for subjecting a decent guy to stale ire. Hey, IM ONLY HUMAN. (but damn i love to dismember...) =) SORRY. :::::::::::::::::::: Beavis & Butthead Marxism: "Property sucks. Huh huh huh." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 02:33:23 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Poseur Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Poseur Organization: Buddhahead Productions, Ltd. Subject: bad poetry sorry for the bad poetry to... cant agree with you melzie, looks gross to me. but then what do i know? it sounds trite to me, but i know myself: of course itll be trite, to me. OY VEY but did i have a hangover the morning after!!! Kreig (Mr. SparklE) :::::::::::::::::::: Beavis & Butthead Marxism: "Property sucks. Huh huh huh." ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 10:21:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Re: maurading tribes In-Reply-To: <199402190733.CAA24909@umd5.umd.edu> from "Poseur" at Feb 19, 94 02:14:47 am > > i didnt mean to sound like i was a war-hungry creep. lets say i was in a > pugnacious mood that night. anyone who knows me knows im not dripping blood > from my lips. > :::::::::::::::::::: > Beavis & Butthead Marxism: > "Property sucks. Huh huh huh." > And just as I was beginning to respect you. Be a fucking man and stand by your fucking words. That was one of the most brilliant posts I have ever seen and you are going to apologize for it? Return to the herd if you must, but if you ever need to taste intellectual freedom again.. Email me.. and well howl at the fucking moon. Harry aka WaZ aka Wizzid ov WaZ aka Kozmick Shiva "when you despise the agreeable and soft bed and cannot bed yourself far enough from the soft: there is the origin of your virtue." Nietzsche Thus Spoke Zarathustra: First Part (from" on the gift giving virtue") ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 11:01:51 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Tribes and anarchy Blah, Blah Krieg you weakling blame it on alcohol but it was in you all along. I apologize only for misposting my email to the list, not for its content. That was meant for Krieg only but having forgotten the subtleties of the reply headers here I stupidly inflicted my own bizarre vision on innocent bystanders Yes perhaps the time has come to reveal myself not as Shoeshine Boy, humble and loveable, but as Underdog ...wait, thats a cartoon There is no hope for any human endeavor that fails to acknowledge the darker side of the self and human existence. Blood, violence war and death are just seconds away from all of us and yet we close our eyes in denial. Krieg revealed that aspect of himself I respect that. Life is not all peace happiness and roses. Harry aka Harry kak ack hack ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 12:19:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: Cartoons and Films! you could try archie, which is a net program that automatically searches known ftp sites for programs, files using key search words. for a quick introduction to binaries, you might check the newsreader--usenet--alt.binaries group for that type of information. net gurus will point you in the right direction--ftp sites, file formats, etc. they might be a little hesitant because of all the vampires--people who clog ftp sites getting goodies and not contributing anything. if you prove you're not that, you'll get lots o help. another good source of random information is the magazine WIRED. too, try "the Whole Internet" which is a reasonable ref. book. i purposefully posted this to the whole group because there has seemed to be a need for this type of info. dj haZard brendan ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 13:16:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Daniel J Nadeau Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Daniel J Nadeau Subject: Malls In-Reply-To: <199402160347.WAA16836@umd5.umd.edu> All, Somebody brought this up a little earlier, but I just went to the ( :P ) mall yesterday, and the Record Town had *gasp!* Black Dog Productions, Sheet One, Dragonfly, and Trance Europe Express. Am I the only one shocked to find these items at a MALL? BTW, what's the word on the Dragonfly album? There's a blurb on the packaging that says "Music from Youth's own label" or something to that effect. All I know is that Youth are in- fucking-credible, IMO. ANYhow, peace and harmony, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 14:28:50 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: Net-Gathering > NET-GATHERING > > FRI FEB 25th, TROY, NY > > > A gathering of the cybertribe at Jujubee's in Troy (near Albany). > > DJs include: sprockett, dave space, others tba. this weekend's incredible weather has struck me with spring fever and now i need to go party bad! =) Can anyone from Buffalo, Syracuse, Binghamton or that area drop by Ithaca and give me a ride? please i need to let out some dancing steam! peace ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "These are not my figures I'm quoting. They're |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| from someone who knows what he's talking about." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - unknown congressman in debate |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 14:52:31 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: essence question..... (fwd) > > > >i wasn't there but I'd guess it was laurent garnier from france his > >awesome i heard him at his local club in France around the same time... > >oof course he is too well known among local so they don't apreciate him > >as much Hey, could someone please tell me the name of Laurent Garnier's club in France, and if possible where it is at... Thanks :) Chris Kozup ckozup@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 15:03:28 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Morris Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Morris Subject: Net Gathering Hey Cybertribe! DJ PanIK (M^2, Michael Mayhem) here! I have been invited to spin at the announced net gathering in Troy, NY near Albany on the 2th (next Friday), but circumstances prevent me from driving myself. Is there anyone coming from Philly or any points near who can possibly lend a ride? I will gladly pay for gas/tolls/tix (NOT! ;) ). I would really appreciate it. PaniK panik@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 13:11:21 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael Wincek <16305@EF.GC.MARICOPA.EDU> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael Wincek <16305@EF.GC.MARICOPA.EDU> Subject: unsubscribe me I would like to be unsubscribed please.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 15:28:43 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Malls All, Somebody brought this up a little earlier, but I just went to the ( :P ) mall yesterday, and the Record Town had *gasp!* Black Dog Productions, Sheet One, Dragonfly, and Trance Europe Express. Am I the only one shocked to find these items at a MALL? ++++++++++ YOU LUCKY BASTARD!!!!!! I've tried EVERYwhere around me and can't find them. Are you sure you didn't have some divine intervention????? Jeez... :) Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 16:48:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Techno & Raves in Paris This is to answer ckozup's question (sorry--Chris :) ) about the scene in Paris. There are a couple of clubs that are I guess halfway decent. I've never been to them, but that's always where we talk about going when there are no good raves going on. We don't usually make it out :) but that has more to do with our motivation than with the clubs. Le Privilege has a techno night--it's called Mantra, I believe. I don't know the phone number or the address, but they wouldn't be hard to obtain once you're there. The other one is the Queen. It's a gay club mostly, with straight nites and techno nites...It's supposed to be actually a pretty cool place.. Once again tho' I've never made it there. If you're more into raving than clubbing, there are two REALLY EASY ways to hook up with the scene in Paris: 1) Listen to FG 98.2 on your FM dial. This is the gay radio station in Paris; until recently, they played 18 hrs. a day of techno, with some KICK ass sets & stuff. They've become more housey/disco/progressive recently from what I hear. They announce a lot of parties and stuff on the air. 2) Dial 3615 on your minitel, and access the FG982 server (by typing FG982) Follow the menus for the rave calendar. Updated every day, probably several times a day...Some events are on it only very briefly, like a couple of hours or a half day, to keep low...These are often good; Spiral Tribe's 5-day long free Technival was only announced on the server for a half day....The calendar also lists the big raves in Germany, Belgium, Switzerland and Holland--but only the big ones for which there are bus trips organized and so on. The calendar doesn't just do Paris, but all of France. Raves in Paris cost roughly 70-130FF, which is basically 11-20-odd dollars. I gotta run, but I'll post a quick note on some of the pros & cons of the Paris scene soon (i.e., gangstas, drugs, security, cops, vibe, etc...) PEACE!! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 17:16:45 -0600 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Todd Rodgers Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Todd Rodgers Subject: Raves, etc. in Berlin In-Reply-To: <9402192228.AA04981@cec_userfs> Howdy! I'm fairly new to this list and I haven't yet posted (It's all I can do to get through my mailbox everyday!). I was wondering if anyone knew anything about the rave/club scene in Berlin. I am going there in a couple of weeks and was wondering if anyone had phone numbers or any info about how I could find out more about the scene (or anything else in Berlin, for that matter). I'm also trying to find some good record stores over there -- any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help. pax. - e x - ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 19 Feb 1994 19:03:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: essence question..... (fwd) In-Reply-To: <199402191955.OAA01340@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 19 Feb 1994, Chris C. Kozup wrote: > > > > > >i wasn't there but I'd guess it was laurent garnier from france his > > >awesome i heard him at his local club in France around the same time... > > >oof course he is too well known among local so they don't apreciate him > > >as much > Hey, could someone please tell me the name of Laurent Garnier's club in > France, and if possible where it is at... Thanks :) > Chris Kozup ckozup@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu > Parisian scene is very quick paced in its ever-changing and very young rave scene as they are a tad isolated socially from their european neighbors. They know that true raves must be promoted by hand and by personal contacts, but there isn't one promoter I know about that you can call and get info about them. However techno-clubs being very much part of the common culture now are listed in the Periscope which comes out every Wed. and is very cheap like 3F or so I can't remember... Since ravers are in town from all over the world ... Paris is a tourist city one must remember.. more so than most big metropolises ... The rave orientted clubs are listed in the english section of the magazine TIME OUT but if you don't see Laurent Garnier there look in the club listings in the regular part of the magazine. In Paris Laurent Garnier is a club DJ not an underground DJ so he may not be listed in the more rave-clubs that are most likely listed in TIME OUT. The best regular club that had been going for about 5weeks but seemed to be losing its kind and underground and generally killer kick was at le privelage on WED I'm sure that it doesn't happen like it used to be. I never went to the more comercial clubs except QUEEN which is pretty much an international gay scene with a few hip girls who stay the night. But based on the descriptions you should be able to find a cool club venue where you will find rave promoters. The scene was very hardcore at the time with the locations of parties often in unsafe locations with fatalities and the works but some english promoters throw good parties every few weeks. SOMA was good. Another club that is more like models and the pretty set which is good if you are looking for connections if you are doing any big project while you are over there.. sort of a rich young adult connected place is les bains douch a converted bath house... know enough french to explain to the door quy that you are American not english as they truly despise ignorant english and its best to call ahead of time to ask for a promoter so you can drop their name... not rave at all just for a definite place where you'll find some other english-speaking intelligent people/college studens in a mixed crowd mostly heterosesual and a little bit of a throw-back to the 80s, thats all your faithful boy paul paul ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 00:44:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: Malls In-Reply-To: <199402191847.NAA27519@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 19 Feb 1994, Daniel J Nadeau wrote: > All, > > Somebody brought this up a little earlier, but I just went > to the ( :P ) mall yesterday, and the Record Town had > *gasp!* Black Dog Productions, Sheet One, Dragonfly, and > Trance Europe Express. Am I the only one shocked to find > these items at a MALL? > Nope. Jest check your nearest Sam Goody. Damn...I had the worst experience today. Was listening to one of my favorite trax, thinking it was on tape, when suddenly I realized I was listening to the radio. Rhetorical Question: is house/techno/trance/etc heading the way of nirvana/fugazi/etc, ie: so-called "underground", with lots of little preppies running around thinking they're rebels becuz they went to a $20/person commercial rave. Its looking that way.... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 02:22:19 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Malls I'd like to think that the rave scene as we know it will avoid the total commercialization suffered by the seattle 'grunge' scene, i.e., nirvana et al. Some say that the 'scene' is already commercialized, and I agree. Raves are a good time that people want to be a part of, and so I think that those who have been around since Storm rave will have to accept a constant influx of new arrivals. In a way, this keeps the scene fresh; there will always be people who are totally amazed by what they see around them. As long as they contribute positively to this, they should be welcomed. I agree that no one needs or wants people at a party or a rave who are there simply so they can tell their friends in the morning. The biggest difference between the alternative underground, seattle, etc, and raving and techno is that the former is much more marketable. Radio stations like 97.1 in NY used to have some kiond of techno show on the weekends (like 1-2 years ago), but these have long since faded away because people tuned out when the statiions started playing Aphex Twin. All they wanted to hear was 2unlimited. You see nirvana on MTV all the time because people seem to find that stuff more tolerable than techno/trance etc, and then when someone sees Aphex on 120 mins, it's a big deal because it's something rare. In other words, I just don't see the vibe found at raves really affected by outside influences, at least not any more than they already have affected raves. One thing I won't do, BTW, is buy a ticket for a rave a Tickettron for a rave at the Meadowlands.... Yikes, I've written way too much, Dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 03:38:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Equalibrium PARTY PEOPLE: I was gonna keep this under my Camel cap until all the details were final, but as it's more than a year since this state has had a bona-fide event, I'm just too giddy not 2 announce this! :D :D :D :D :D :D United Techno presents: EQUALIBRIUM APRIL 2 CT James Christian, Jimmy Crash, Troposphere, Ryde, Happy, Frankie Bones, Micro, Mr. Trash, Joeski, Space Ace, Scott Richmond More 411 2 come . . . YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!! PEACE OUT:) MARK ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 13:38:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Thomas C Noe Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Thomas C Noe Subject: Re: Hey folks.. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 18 Feb 1994 15:50:03 -0500 Well I'm not sure what exactly you need but I am a Dj and I own enough equipment for a a single room rave (ballroom size?!) not warehouse.. so what everlist your starting you can interview me at....718-548-5632...... TOM ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 15:04:07 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Raves, etc. in Berlin Hey there, A good way to keep up on German raves is to subscribe to de-raves, which is a German rave list. It is pretty much only for rave info, and they don't inundate your mailbox (no offense to ne-raves =) Some postings are in German, for instance the directions on how to use the list, but if you know German your all set! Good luck, you're sooooo lucky to be going to Germany!!!!! Grrrrrr..... Deliriously thinking of Berlin and Frankfurt, Peace, DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 15:31:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , CONCEPCION@VAXVMSX.BABSON.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Techno & Raves in Paris Just to add to Terence's advice on the City of Strobe Lights, There are also two decent record shoppes in Paris, both located around the Bastille neighbourhood. One of them is called BPM and it's inventory is almost all vinyl with a few CDs. The other one is Rough Trade, another branch of the chain with stores in London, San Francisco and other juicy townes. I don't know the exact address for either one, but I do know that BPM is on the southern end of Rue Keller, which isn't that long a street, and is about five minutes walk east of the Place Bastille. Rough Trade is just around the corner on Rue Cabronne. Closest Metro stops are Ledru-Rollin and/or Bastille. CD prices in France are about equal to import prices here. Expect 'em to start at 108 FF ($18) and average aroudn 126 FF (21$). You can also pick up rave flyers at both stores. Hope it helps, and I'll read y'all later. - Cris ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 15:43:11 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Malls Begin Quote Nope. Jest check your nearest Sam Goody. Damn...I had the worst experience today. Was listening to one of my favorite trax, thinking it was on tape, when suddenly I realized I was listening to the radio. Rhetorical Question: is house/techno/trance/etc heading the way of nirvana/fugazi/etc, ie: so-called "underground", with lots of little preppies running around thinking they're rebels becuz they went to a $20/person commercial rave. Its looking that way.... ----- The simple answer is yes. I was in that position for a while. I jumped on this this and it cleared up real fast. But beware...for I fear Techno is headed to just that place. Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 16:08:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: Net Gathering > Hey Cybertribe! DJ PanIK (M^2, Michael Mayhem) here! I have been invited > to spin at the announced net gathering in Troy, NY near Albany on the 2th > (next Friday), but circumstances prevent me from driving myself. Ditto for me except I'm in New York City. Anyone driving that way that can squeeze a skinny guy and his record box? thanks in advance ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 19:56:13 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Labworks CD Just picked up Labwork's Genetic Errors Volume II--Trax from Labworks. It kicks butt. A 2-CD set; the first CD is more trance/hardtrance with some great sounds and ups & downs..The second CD is a bit harder, but without giving in to total decibel mayhem. A great buy!! Peace! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:03:41 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Techno & Raves in Paris Actually, I shoulda mentionned this on my earlier post...The minitel server 3615 code FG982 also lists the addresses for the stores mentionne by Cris. I've been to BPM and TSF (Rue des Taillanders), and there are a couple of other stores. But when a friend visited from France a few weeks ago & I took him to Planet X (the nearest store from where I live), he was amazed at the selection, and complained about how hard it is to find good vi-nyl in Pa-ris :) If you go to Paris, tell me when you plan on being there!! Peace, Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:22:11 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Comic interlude I found this in today's Dennis the Menace comic strip. It's a dialogue between Dennis and Mister Wilson: Dennis: I've got a grat idea! I'm gonna build a tunnel between my house an' yours! Mr. Wilson: I'd prefer a moat. Dennis: My dad and I can start digging at our house ... and you can start from here! Mr. Wilson: Rave on. ^^^^^^^ I was never aware Mister Wilson was so hip. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 19:50:29 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: nebulous goings on I'm just going to post some quick thoughts on the Return to Nebula party in Poughkeepsie... After traveling 2 hours on some dark and black iced roads, the group of us made it to the JCC. Upon admittance, Rishad/Fish and I had to throw away our water bottles, because of a no container policy. I understand that the concessions were present, but both our bottles were sealed and made of plastic. Minor quibble. Two rooms. Housey sounds in the auditorium upstairs, and hardcore in the gym downstairs. I hung out initially downstairs, but after a while, I headed upstairs. I found this to be unusual, as I like hardcore, but found the stuff being spun downstairs unpalatable. Unsure of who was spinning when and where, but I didn't get to hear anybody that I came to see. There was scattered dancing, but I didn't get too much of a vibey feeling. Could be because of the two rooms, people wandering back and forth, not enough drugs, whatever. IMHO, this party wasn't worth 15 bucks. Ten, yes, fifteen, no. I did fulfill one goal -- meeting some of the upstate ne-ravers: nate goldbaum (the hat was the identifier) sprockett (who oozes plur) mistress loretta (very social) peppermint patty (who moves on the dancefloor) Also coming up in the car with me from NYC/Long Island were my co-other Margaret, Fish, Will-E and Liz. Special thanks to the Trilobite Project people for the free snow cone. I'm not going to be able to make up to Troy next week, so y'all have fun. Memorable quotes from the night: "This is the cleanest rave I've ever been to." -- Rishad commenting on the state of Nebula and the thoroughness of the security guards. "We're DJs. We don't have anything to do with the sound system." -- Paraphrase of a quote from one of the DJs spinning around 4 AM to Will-E, due to a faulty sound system. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:50:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JASCHOENLY@VAXSAR.VASSAR.EDU Subject: SPICE Well, those of you who missed Spice in Broolyn last night truly missed out! Matt and I got to the space around ten and were let in around eleven. The space was way upstairs in this warehouse, like on the fourth floor. The room was just the right size for the party, and it soon filled to capacity. They had a phat sound system set up and some minimal lighting. Eno-one did some cool visuals on one screen, and it was cool because they would periodically flash up the name of the DJ who was spinning at the time. DJ Einstein got everyone started with some medium-hard acid, which pretty much set the tone for the night. This party had more aciiiiieeeed spun at it than any other event I've been to, and I loved every minute of it! After Einstein was Soul Slinger, who surprised me with a phat set of jungle breaks, followed by some acidy stuff. Then, then surprise of the night came for me when Dave Trance came on. Now, I've heard him spin before, and I've always found his sets pretty boring. He took control of the crowd, though, and pro- ceeded to go crazy! He started off with some hard, hard acid that took the room by storm. Everyone was dancing, and you could really feel a great vibe in the crowd. Dave continued with weirder and weirder acid, and then Tera from Back to Basics picked up where Dave left off with more acciiieed! His set was excellent, and then came the moment w'ed been waiting for... The live performance by DX-13 was insane! The crowd was going nuts as we were bombarded by super hard 303 + 909 mayhem. After that was Heather Heart, then Denard, and finally Adam X, all three rounding up the night with more acid. All in all, it was one acciieed fest! It was great to be at an event where I actually liked most of the music, instead of getting the usual run of house set after house set that seems to happen at a lot of parties today. This was my first Brooklyn event, but it won't be my last! This more under- ground event was really refreshing after the recent flood of commercial, super- hyped parties. The crowd was there, the vibe was there, and most importantly, the underground music that we all need was there! Peace, Jacob ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 21:10:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: Re: the neXt generation is not generation X they are the beep generation In-Reply-To: <199402200553.AAA07300@umd5.umd.edu> > Nope. Jest check your nearest Sam Goody. Damn...I had the worst > experience today. Was listening to one of my favorite trax, thinking it > was on tape, when suddenly I realized I was listening to the radio. > Rhetorical Question: is house/techno/trance/etc heading the way of > nirvana/fugazi/etc, ie: so-called "underground", with lots of little > preppies running around thinking they're rebels becuz they went to a > $20/person commercial rave. Its looking that way.... Have been hanging with the 15-16 yr old set here in Providence they are very removed from the rave culture they don't consider it commercial just limiting and have removed themselves from it by being content in a little house party or driving in a car as much as anything else and don't despise their fellow young ins for being ignorant just because their taste is different or even hateful... gone is the bickering if someone should just get out because they are stifiling others gone is the arguing about religion and politics when you try to place any person into a type of thinking or sub-culture they don't like it or resist it they just act like they wish not to know what you are talking about... "whatever " but without sarcasm... they are no longer like us at all they have perfected what we wish we could do... they mix all sub-cultures and pop cultures and old cultures in whatever proportion they wish without regard to the labels we have used , perfect post-modernism without definition in any modernist conventions and language that has prevented us from getting their... the only thing that now lingers is what is next now that some generation has perfected the ideals that we longed for... they didn't even need some big cohesive event to bond them together they are all together in the fact that each one has become comfortable in their own uniqueness and true individuality even as they glide from situation to situation ... they feel content in their own place and unique direction... Woww they don't need rave at all... they have their enjoyment as close to home as they like. that's alll Paul Paul feeling old and outdated ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 21:35:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Re: Techno & Raves in Paris In-Reply-To: <199402210122.UAA27763@umd5.umd.edu> On Sun, 20 Feb 1994, Terence R. Strick wrote: > Actually, I shoulda mentionned this on my earlier post...The minitel > server 3615 code FG982 also lists the addresses for the stores mentionne > by Cris. I've been to BPM and TSF (Rue des Taillanders), and there > are a couple of other stores. But when a friend visited from France > a few weeks ago & I took him to Planet X (the nearest store from where > I live), he was amazed at the selection, and complained about how hard > it is to find good vi-nyl in Pa-ris :) > > If you go to Paris, tell me when you plan on being there!! > > Peace, > > Terence How do you access a minitel system? I am not familiar with them. PaniK ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:15:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Paris etc.. Thanks to all who helped me out. I think that I will be in Paris sometime around Thanksgiving but I am not sure of the dates, or how long I will be staying there. I am going with some rave buddies from my school.. I hope that I have a chance to go to a rave while I am there, or even a club for that matter. Anymore info is welcome... Thanks again.. ;) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 18 Feb 1994 19:07:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: Equalibrium PARTY PEOPLE: I was gonna keep this under my Camel cap until all the details were final, but as it's more than a year since this state has had a bona-fide event, I'm just too giddy not 2 announce this! :D :D :D :D :D :D United Techno presents: EQUALIBRIUM APRIL 2 CT James Christian, Jimmy Crash, Troposphere, Ryde, Happy, Frankie Bones, Micro, Mr. Trash, Joeski, Space Ace, Scott Richmond More 411 2 come . . . YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY!!!! PEACE OUT:) MARK P.S. Sorry if U get this twice. I sent out the first one out a day ago and I still haven't rec'd any acknowledgement. I LOVE U ALL!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:32:43 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: more nebulousness thanks again bob for giving us a lift to the party aside from my usual complaints, expensive price and why can't be bring bottled watter in even if it's unopened? not enough people dancing... half the sound system kept failing so for most of the night on the ground level dance floor. I was getting into the groove but found it ridiculous that someone couldn't fiddle with the wires and get the sound going back up again. After the downstairs floor shut down, most people came into the main room so I decided to go figure out what was wrong. I walk on stage and a bunch of DJs were sitting around, not even really interacting with each other at all and I asked around why the sound was down and the common response was, "I dunno, we're just the DJs." As a DJ I took that as a slap in the face. All of them just sitting around looking bored and not one of them knows what to do or who to tell and they're just not that bothered in lifting a finger to help improve the party that little bit more unless it's to spin a record.. hmph. Are they just that dumb, that unconcerned and uncaring or do they see it as they're not getting paid to do that? I didn't stick around to find out. From the dance floor it was too dark to see any of the DJs faces and not a single soul I spoke to had a clue who was spinning when and I thought I'd find some of the DJs that I knew but I guess they had all left by then. I bumped into Alan Sanctuary and I demanded he do something about this at least as someone who pretends to care about the scene... but he told me the sound people were all at Spice. We both agreed that this was a really bad thing to do without hesitation. Regardless in a few minutes someone was on the case and a little twidling with the loose cables seemed to fix it. I wondered what percentage of common sense these DJs shared collectively. Aside from that, there were some phat tunes played and I had a good time regardless godamnit! Met several upstate ne-ravers which added several bonus points... you know who you are! This one gets a C+ ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:00:43 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Forwarded Mail from: Mailer-Daemon (Mail Delivery Subsystem) c ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:21:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Techno & Raves in Paris A minitel is basically a modem with a terminal. The French government gave them out for free (one per household), and you can use it to hook up to mongo bulletin boards (you pay the phone connexn and 30 cents a minute, roughly). A great machine!! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:32:02 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: Paris etc.. If you're there on a weekend, you have an 80% + chance of finding a rave! Terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 12:20:08 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Techno & Raves in Paris Anyone heard of a DJ called D.J. Xavier, I think from Paris? He *GOES* to my school >?< Whats up with that? He says he famous over there. Anyone? Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 22:30:55 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: the neXt generation is not generation X they are the beep generation Heh....seems to me like they're all individuals... "Yes!!!" the crowd roars out in unison, "We're all individuals!!" (Monty Python, Life of Brian). Just kidding. Ya know, they're all tied together by the TV, which has managed to 1)standardize 2)homogenize 3)pasteurize most of today's culture, youth or otherwise. IMHO, it ain't a very appealing situation. At least the 60's had big events to bond them, which had a momentum of people, ideals, etc. Today, as Paul sez, they don't even have that big bonding event 'cuz they're all sucking up to their individual tv tubes. I'd rather have a big bonding event than the day-to-day trickle of electrons-into-a-picture-in-my-livingroom... Sucks to be them, if that's all they have... Oops--I forgot...the Nintendo & Game gear etc. makes it all ....INTERACTIVE MIND-ROT :) (actually, I like a video game just as much as the next fool :) ) Peace Terence ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 23:39:57 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: more nebulousness In-Reply-To: <199402210343.WAA09519@umd5.umd.edu> from "WILL-E" at Feb 20, 94 10:32:43 pm > I walk on stage and a bunch of DJs were sitting around, not even really > interacting with each other at all and I asked around why the sound was down > and the common response was, "I dunno, we're just the DJs." As a DJ I took > that as a slap in the face. [...] Are they just that dumb, that > unconcerned and uncaring or do they see it as they're not getting paid to do > that? Well, I've been on both sides of that fence. When I'm doing sound, I don't want *anyone* messing with my equipment unless I know them per- sonally, and that they know what they're doing. Failing that, I don't want them touching anything but the 1200s and the controls on the mixer that I haven't taped in place, and if that means the sound stays down, so be it. Something has already gone wrong; I don't want some well-intentioned but unqualified DJ breaking something else. Now, this also presumes that I'm there; if the sound people had all left the venue, then yes, some attempt should have been made to get things going again. And as a DJ, if I'm on someone else's system, I'm not going to so much as adjust the position of the booth monitor unless I've been given explicit permission to do so by the sound crew. Otherwise, they don't know me from the most pathological, stoned-to-the-bejeezus scratch- master who still needs help hooking up anything more complex than a boombox. All I need is for them to come to me a week after the event saying that "my" screwup cost them their system. Stipulated: I wasn't at this event, and the situation might have been totally different from what I've assumed here, but those are the views I go into any event holding, no matter which side of the DJ/sound fence I'm on. BTW, for some real horror stories along these lines, check out some of the tales posted to rec.audio.pro. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 20:56:29 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chris Beaumont Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chris Beaumont Subject: Re: Techno & Raves in Paris I remember reading somewhee that there was a minitel/internet gateway somewhere.. -Chris. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 00:53:07 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: the neXt generation is not generation X they are the beep generation Terence writes "...they don't have a big bonding event because there all sucking up to their individual tv tubes." I think that this notion of individuals tuning into their own little tv's watching something that someone else decide they should is basically dead. For example, thanks to at+t, you can play sega against someone across the country (or you can play a netrek thanks to the net). I post his here as apposed to alt.culture.internet because I think eventually electronics, fiber optics, etc will bond us in many of the same ways people bond at a rave. Like feelings and friendships are transferred and made at a party, the same thing will happen on our computers, like we're doing here, and eventually our tv sets.... --dan the superhighway fan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 01:52:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: the neXt generation... What Dan and I are talking about are not at all the same things. I'm talking about the present state of television entertainment, which is about as non-interactive as you can get. Dan is talking about the future of telecommunications (note--not just TV, but __telecommunications__) entertain- ment. This future will likely be as interactive as you can get short of real life :) Today, I maintain that individuals suck up the mental slop dished out to 'em on TV in a non-interactive way. Kids are spoon fed role models x hours a day-- Beverley Hills 90210, Melrose Place to name a few. Have you watched the news recently? It's barely news anymore. All but the "biggest" and "most national" newscasts smell more and more like the shite pumped out on Inside Edition et al. On sitcoms & stuff, some frigging laugh track is still there so that people can be _TOLD WHEN TO LAUGH_!!! Playing chess on your tv screen with a fellow-raver you met at the last full moon rave will be a different story than this one altogether. Chess anyone? :) Love, Terence ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 11:02:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Comic Interlude that dennis the menace joke you posted was pretty funny! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:05:35 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: techno&raves in paris well, i went to paris 1 time and i have some flyers from raves there. i tried to go to "The Palace" but the party was a gay party so i didn't went in. Yep, "The queen" seems to have some good nights (good music) and FG is the only serious radio station (99% of german stuff on it:) French ravers love almost only Germans and Dutch dj's. There are good raves, not expensive in big locations (halle du bourget) In france, the scenbe is only in Paris and in the south (Lyon, Valence, Toulouse, Marseille). I never went to a rave in paris but i went in a BIG (one of the biggest never held in France) in Lyon. Great Line-Up (Mark Spoon (this dj sux!), Pascal FEOS (one of the greatest dj's!), Cosmic baby,hardfloor,oliver bonzio,resistance-d). Great location too. French have good tastes in musci but i'm sorry to say that the crowd and the vibe there isn't very great. People don't move a lot. If you go in germany or in east switzerland (where the music is almost the same as in France) the vibe ios 100* better!! People moves! Well, to resume: France has good music, good places but not great crowd. FLUR (FunLoveUnityRespect) psyched - Say Thanx to the GOD Dave Angel! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:23:00 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: Raves, etc. in Berlin well, happy to go in berlin? take the train to FRANKFURT!!!! berlin scene sux more than other ones in germany... but if you love german and dutch hardcore, your pleasure will be high ! :) be carefull with skinheads!! psyched ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 13:21:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Cal Eastman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Cal Eastman Subject: Re: NYC Club raison du hassles...duh... In-Reply-To: <199402090725.CAA16601@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Nosho Sannyas" at Feb 8, 94 11:36 pm nosho q > > yea so? > > read your sanctuary flambe'.....yea so? > hes a dick...what else is new! > > later alligator....crunch....;> > > > -- > BOOM SHIVA.....BOOM BOOM! > ........BOOM...! > ....BABA MAHA BOOM BOOM! > -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 14:10:06 +0200 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: virgin vibes ITHACA SCENE REPORT! -------------------- Ok all, I have two things to report about the scene out here in Ithaca. First of all, our very own local Exit 23 productions has started a weekly rave type event every Saturday at the State Theatre called SUNSHINE. At first, I was wary of it because my experience with Ithaca was that the people here weren't ready for a rave scene. Well, I guess it just took someone to do it right because I went and had a GREAT time. The music wasn't amazing, the lighting was ok, the dance floor wasn't so big, and the smart bar was kinda puny, but this production was all heart. You could tell the promoters did it because they loved it and not for money. The best thing about SUNSHINE was the vibe. You old fogies talk about the scene getting stale? You talk about ravers getting too trendy? You talk about attitude? Well, a lot of people were trendy alright, but you could tell that it just didn't matter. There was nothing but PLUR as you watched well-dressed colege boys who looked like they had just walked straight out of a J. Crew catalog dancing as fervently as the die-hard ravers right next to them. Actually, there weren't too many of the latter at SUNSHINE and that was good because no one fit in, which meant that everyone fit in. Unity through diversity at its best. Come and support our virgin scene all you net-ravers you! SUNSHINE every Saturday at the State Theatre (109 W. State Street) from 11:30pm until people leave...only $3 and $1 off if you can find a flyer lying around. I've got plenty o' crash space... HERE'S ONE FOR THE ROM! ----------------------- Ithaca's first real rave with a real DJ line-up! I'm putting this info down from memory so, Inhuman, I'll send you verified info for the ROM later tonight. ******************************************************************************* Saturday, February 26th IPAC and Thrombomatic productions present... TEMPTRONIC FAITH ---------------- spinning Techno, Trance, House, and Breakbeat... music by: Adam X (Brooklyn) Heather Heart (Under One Sky) Soul Slinger (Liquid Sky Vibe) Dave Walters (Wax Trax Records) Wilhelm (Sunshine/Exit 23) <== our very own local techno dj R.M. (Syracuse) All Ages * Acid Jazz Bar (21+) * from 10pm til dawn * $8 cover State Theatre, 109 W. State Street Ithaca, NY 14850 for info call: (sorry I forgot but I'll give the number to Inhuman for the ROM) $1 off with a flyer (I'll try at hook ya up with that if I can) ******************************************************************************* Please everyone come because I want this thing to be a huge success. If it isn't, then there's the end of our little rave scene =(. I've got crash space for many and I'll show you Ithacan hospitality as best I can (we've got lots of heart for a small town of 20k). All you other ithaca ravers contact me and maybe we can treat our out-of-town guests with a little pre-party. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "These are not my figures I'm quoting. They're |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| from someone who knows what he's talking about." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - unknown congressman in debate |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 15:49:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Net-Gathering In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 18 Feb 94 19:01:02 -0500. <9402190001.AA10624@MIT.EDU> >Net-DJs: Get word to me, we will have as many of you spin as there are hours >in the night! jimmy-hat, mars, entox, symbion, panik? anyone who (sorry) >didn't immediately spring to mind? I would be more than happy to spin at your event. The only problem is finding a ride up to Albany. My sister's probably driving up to Boston on Friday, so if that happens, I can just take her car. If not, is there anyway you can hook me up with a ride or do you know if there are buses going up to Albany? Thanks. JimmY |-|/\T ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:41:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges What's up with badges at this point? I'd like to get one,s o whoever's in charge of em, mail me. Thanks -Matt ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:55:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: KICK IT-- March 11th, 1994 Has anyone heard anything more about KickIt? How about a rundown on what the DJ's spin? Is thsi gonna be a big net gathering? Well, I'm planning on going with a couple of my friends--it's over our spring break, and we're too cool to go home to our mommies, besides..who wants to go back to Illinois? Anyway, we are definitely going to this event plus Timemwarp 2 on the next night. I'm gettin anxious! See ya, Love, Matt (remember me from Delta 1 ?) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:35:13 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges I'd like one too. If whoever is in charge could mail me that would be great. :) Oh, by the way, in this months Vibe, moby has decided that the rave scene has died and retreated to the clubs.... --Dan sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:43:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MIKE-D IN THE PLACE TO BE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MIKE-D IN THE PLACE TO BE Subject: join join im ravin' ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:42:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: 1200's needed! if anyone out there knows, or has to sell a pair of 1200's, let me know. we are looking to get a pair ASAP, this is very urgent!. the price is negotiable, we will travel to get. reply via e-mail at peppermint@delphi.com or the phone at 18-432-4784. thanks alot, peace out...peppermint patty & medicine man p.s. the phone number is preferable, thanx. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 19:09:37 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges Me to, Me to! I wanna badge! Apoc /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 18:06:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: 11 March 1994 The only thing I've heard that's happening on 3/11/94 is a little microrave going on in Wellesley, Massachusetts... ;) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 17:09:53 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: virgin vibes I'm with tai. I wasn't at the rave b-cuz I was throwing a "grocery fund" party at my house about 4 blocks away, but my friend Scott was there and I've heard that it was happening. I'll be there if not this weekend then after s-break. Looking forward to having some ne-ravers stop in. If you all can't fit in Tai's place then there's space at my house. ITHACA FINALLY HAS A SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hope to see all of you there sometime or another Dave "The Snowboarder" E-mail: Dlapuma1@ithaca.ithaca.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 18:27:47 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: 1200's i forgot to add, we are looking to purchase USED 1200's. thanx for the hassle sorry for the extra post! peaz out...peppermint patty & medicine man ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 19:00:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , brendan mcdougall Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: brendan mcdougall Subject: Re: Raves, etc. in Berlin ?? de-raves@where.is.rest.address ?? :) haZard ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 16:25:39 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: Getting flyers for RED. hey All! Just a note here. I lost ALL my back and saved mail from ne-raves for a while back, and lost info someone had posted about getting flyers for RED. Does anybody know where or what the address was to send away to get some? Possibly am I too late?? Thanks in Advance!!!! - Stef Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 19:36:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges Sorry to perhaps rehash a old/dying/dead subject, but could someone tell me about these NE-Rave badges and how I can get one? Thanks a lot! Kenji groovybass@aol.com <<4u4>> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 19:50:19 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SQ0326@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Lauren Jones Subject: Badges Hook me up with one of them too. Thanks. Love, Peace, and 18 in. subs! SeAn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 20:48:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: Getting flyers for RED. In-Reply-To: <199402220102.UAA17598@umd5.umd.edu> you're in boston right? i'm sure you'll see them around after a while. no need to have them mailed to you... chris ```'' ______________oOO( O-O )OOo______________ | U | | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ || || || || /-, .-\ .-- *| |* --, ~~~~~ ~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 20:03:46 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: KHERLIHY@CENTER.COLGATE.EDU Subject: Re: virgin vibes It's cool to see that a scene is cropping up in Ithaca.... hmmm maybe this will eventually warrant a road trip to visit our not so far away neighbors. :) peace. later. <<>kyle<>> kherlihy@center.colgate.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 21:51:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: Re: KICK IT-- March 11th, 1994 yah...I was kinda wondering about the Kick It / Time Warp weekend... personally I'm planning on hitting both...although it would be nice to make a few plans b4hand...like anyone want to offer me some crash space in Philly? Mebbe a ride up to Allentown (and back)...hmmm, any pre-Kick-it things? And DIRECTIONS as Jason's gonna be in Cali. and I haven't a CLUE how to get around philly... oh yah...and someone mentioned the latest Vibe magazine...check it out...it has quite the section on raves...follows some Richmond folks around... including them going to Qrave...oh yah, and a quote from the woderful promoter of that same party... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 22:58:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE FOR THE WEEK OF 2/21/94 UPDATE FROM DJ TRAX--WOOD-RIDGE, NJ, USA 2/21/94 A weekly listing of 12" records currently generating club and retail response in the NYC area. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Help support the underground that supports you, contact the labels and tell them where you saw the record info!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "ACETATE OF THE MONTH/WEEK": Keep your eyes open for a new Rare Arts/Two Without Hats 12" in the Boriqua Posse/Try Yazz vein. Glen Friscia of Hot 97 is playing this two times a night, causing a major buzz. Unfortunately, NO label has signed the song yet, so we'll have to wait for the 12". ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I! RECORDS: "The First Avenue Project EP" (IR 101) Featuring 5 cuts from a variety of up-and-coming producers on the sample house scene, this debut 12" from I! Records is already buzzing with DJs and stores around the NYC area. I found "Get It Together" by Rich Criso to be the most outstanding track on the record and after further investigation, I was surprised to hear this was Rich's debut. The track relies on minimal samples and soft organ keyboards. Jazz-N-Groove, from Miami's E-SA Records, work a deeeeeeeep bassline into "To Be With You", definitely a workout for the subs. Contact: Mario 201-481-0336 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEW MEAL POWER RECORDS (ITALY): "My House"--Double Impact (MP 70) Wow!!! Yet another Italian import with a definite representation of the "Brooklyn House Sound." If anyone remembers the Frankie Bones/Break Boys track "My House is Your House...." from 1990 then this will seem like a remix. Using the same male vocal sample and intense organ and techno styled keyboards, this track can work well in both a house set and early in a techno set. Contact: ????????? 011-44-02-58012071 FAX: 011-44-02-55400364/58012566 (Note: 011-44 is for US callers only) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY HYPE RECORDS: "You Used To Hold Me '94"--Ralphi Rosario feat. Xaviera Gold (SH-112) Well, here we are, yet another remix of "You Used To Hold Me," but wait, this is a double 12" with 12 mixes by all the hot remixers: MAW, DJ EFX, Maurice Joshua,..... My pick, however, is DJ Hyperactive's "Chicago 303 Mix" which gets Ms. Gold involved in the retro-acid "thang." Amazing how great this song can sound to even the hardest of dancefloors. SLAM IT!!!! For lovers of the original, go with Ralphi's "Riviera" mix which works that original keyboard line to the bone. Contact: Tania 708-678-1271 FAX: 708-678-1272 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- TRI STAR RECORDS: "Medicine Mix"--Haruomi Hosono (WAS-5576) The "Quiet Lodge Version" ventures into deep trance territory. The haunting keyboard work by this Japanese artist fits well into any trance set. Contact: Todd Glassman 212-833-8000 FAX: 212-833-8484 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOUSE JAM RECORDS: "Got The Cure"--Thrillseekers (HJA-9428) The "Blueprint Disko Dub" uses that ever so popular groove from "Let No Man Put Asunder" that you thought was buried years ago. Well here it is and ready to be worked on all the house dancefloors. Start digging out the Salsoul originals, or for late-comers, Acapella Anonymous Volume 1. Contact: Rick or Gary 312-226-8092 FAX: 312-226-7184 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ORE RECORDS (UK): "Nothing Better"--Colourblind The "Hand and Spear" club mix starts off with the female chant of "Nothing Better" and slowly layers groove upon groove until a unified tribal track is built. Then BOOM!, the keyboards kick in full force combining with a fierce bassline to keep it up for 5:38. Contact: Moneypenny 212-343-2660 FAX: 212-343-2753 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SNEAK TIP RECORDS: "The Circus House"--Network 109 (STR-022) Produced by Peter "At Work" Presta, "The Circus House" borrows bits and pieces from the sample house archives and relives just a little of that Todd Terry feeling from 1988. Check out the "Presta Mix" and let me know what samples YOU find. Contact: Jerry 718-459-0334 FAX: 718-459-0724 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CONTINUUM RECORDS: "Burning Like The Sun"--Red Red Groovy (13303-0) Mixed by the X-Mix clan (Armand Van Helden--"Circle Children"), this record works the current tren of tribal revelry and does it well. Pieces of the alternative-like male vocals slither in and out of the mix. Contact: Chris B 908-709-0011 FAX: 908-709-0641 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FREEZE RECORDS: "The Todd Terry Unreleased Project Part 5" (TNT-09) Mr. Todd Terry delivers with another sample track EP. Todd goes back into the vaults to nail some old school house jams. Anybody remember "Don't Stop It" by DMS on Cutting Records a few years back? Well, Todd put the great organ filled "Keep on Pressing On" dub on this record and added bits and pieces of Two Without Hat's "The Breeze," calling it "Nitty Gritty." A must have for all DJs. Contact: Richie Rich 212-243-1189 FAX: 212-243-1089 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- NERVOUS RECORDS: "Tales From the RZ"--Beltram Presents (SO-20082) Joey Beltram serves up a tasty house styled record with a remix of Xavier Gold's "You Used To Hold Me" flying around an 130 BPM acidic typhoon. "Warriors Dance"--Deep Creed Mega-Tribal with a techno flavored keyboard hook. This one is produced by the Tribal man of the hour, Armand Van Helden which should be enough reason to buy the record. What are you waiting for? Contact: Nick 212-730-7160 FAX: 212-730-7130 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- STRICTLY RHYTHM RECORDS: "Gobah"--The Untouchables Kenny "Dope" Gonzalez gives us a tribal track that delivers with a sample of "Jingo" (Where did he get the sample???? Could it be "Drums of Passion"-1960???) "Indonesia"--Circle Children (SR-12203) Tribal with an Indonesian(???) vocal sample. Working a 126 BPM chant-laden percussion track, this record is causing a major buzz among all DJs and DJ oriented publications "More"--The Erick Morillo EP (SR EP-3) This man has been responsible for Strictly Rhythm's resurgence in the 12" market. His list of hits goes on and on: The New Anthem, Go On Move, I Like To Move It, UNBE, House of Love........ 5 cuts are featured, one hip-hop, the rest, strong house tracks. My picks have to be "Toety" which HOT 97 (NYC) DJ Glen Friscia has been pumping since November!!!!???? This one sounds like a remake of the "Anasthasia-"ized" Muevelo Remix but with a much harder hip-hop beat. "Back In My House" yet again works Althea McQueen's "fierce" vocals with a new organ track. "Asuca"--R.A.W. (SR-12215) Once again, Erick Morillo offers up a house track perfect for any DJ. "Asuca" uses a sinewy bassline and samples from "Muevelo" to make it familiar. "(Shake Watcha) Mama Gave Y'All"--Stik-E and The Hoods (PW-104) Produced by the ever popular hip-hop sample guru, Frankie Cutlass, this one works the chant style like Funkmaster Flex's "C'mon Baby" but uses the "Shake......" chant from Miami's "Poison Clan". The sampled beat from Slick Rick's "Mona Lisa" and horns from K7's "Come Baby Come" help to make this a timeless classic. Contact: Bari 212-246-0026 FAX: 212-246-2191 Please send any questions, comments, advice, etc. to: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DJ EMAIL ADDRESSES: Streetsound Magazine: 72242.1005@compuserve.com STREETSND@aol.com Astralwerks Records: Astralwerks@cyberden.com Zoe Magik Records: 73044.1216@compuserve.com Instinct Records: 72170.1753@compuserve.com Twitch Remix Service: bdavis@netcom.com Urb Magazine: urbmag@netcom.com FFRR Records: FFRR1@aol.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 23:26:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Scott D Isaacson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Scott D Isaacson Subject: Re: virgin vibes In-Reply-To: <199402220028.TAA29258@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu>; from "DLAPUMA1%ITHACA.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU" at Feb 21, 94 5:09 pm > I'm with tai. I wasn't at the rave b-cuz I was throwing a "grocery > fund" party at my house about 4 blocks away, but my friend Scott was there > and I've heard that it was happening. I'll be there if not this weekend > then after s-break. Looking forward to having some ne-ravers stop in. > If you all can't fit in Tai's place then there's space at my house. > ITHACA FINALLY HAS A SCENE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ithaca has a scene? I'm very jealous. Anyone out there near, in, or around Rochester that would want to go? I have the car and the inclination, so drop me a line. Just don't ask about this weekend, some of us have to *shudder*. . .work. LittleBoy. PS To Whom it May Concern, thanks for the info about archie. Found some real interesting stuff, though no animation-wise. I actually found a copy of Apotheosis "O Fortuna" completely digitized and waiting to be downloaded from someone's SUN. I'm sick of the song, personally, but impressed lthat someone layed it out in that format. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 23:44:09 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges In-Reply-To: <199402212252.RAA28233@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 21 Feb 1994, wrote: > I'd like one too. If whoever is in charge could mail me that would be great. > :) > Oh, by the way, in this months Vibe, moby has decided that the rave scene > has died and retreated to the clubs.... > > --Dan > sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu > For him perhaps it has died. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 21 Feb 1994 23:09:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Nebula II Hey Kids, First off, a massive thanks to Bob and Margaret for being our rave guides on this latest nocturnal gathering of deviants :) Nebula (II?) was held at the Jewish Community Center in downtown Poughkeepsie, about an hour north of Manhattan. Our little band of 5 - myself, Bob, Margaret, Will-E and Liz arrived at the JCC around 12:30. As Will-E and Bob mentioned, the first point of discord was with not being allowed to bring in unopened bottles of water, which I couldn't really understand either, since they allowed in food. Two main dancing areas, and a chillout room. Hardcore and hard trance was the main flavor downstairs and the upstairs room was playing mostly housey tunes for the night. I spent most of the night in the downstairs gymnasium-type area, since I was in the more in the mood for the music being played there. As Bob quoted me as saying, this was perhaps the cleanest rave I've ever been to - clean floors, clean bathrooms, and perhaps even a little less of that smokey rave scent that I've grown accustomed to :) Sometime during the night we all met around the Sno-Cone booth and I met a whole new set of lovely NE-ravers - Nate, Sprockett, Patty and Loretta, as well as seeing the now-familiar mug of my evil-twin JP-3 :) Despite my not having been out in a while (due to a combination of factors more or less beyond my control), I'd really have to say that this rave was missing something. I don't know what it was - the space was good, the people were pretty happy-looking, the music was not all that bad and there was free water available. Despite all these things, I never quite experienced that all-important vibe-high that really makes a rave happen. It sounds, from Jason's post, that SPiCE was a lot better time for all, but I guess you can't win 'em all. We left the party around 6:00 when I briefly ran into NE-raver Tony from Albany - good seeing you again. Here's the list (to the best of my memory) of all present and accounted for: Bob & Margaret (i'm sure she'll be thrilled to hear she's one of us now :) :) Will-E LiZ FiSH JP-3/Speed RAcer Sprockett Nate Goldbaum Mistress Loretta Peppermint Patty Tony Here's hoping to see more of you really really soon!! Spring is coming!! Love, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 00:53:48 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: virgin vibes In-Reply-To: <199402220454.XAA21411@umd5.umd.edu> On Mon, 21 Feb 1994, Scott D Isaacson wrote: > > PS > To Whom it May Concern, thanks for the info about archie. Found > some real interesting stuff, though no animation-wise. I actually > found a copy of Apotheosis "O Fortuna" completely digitized and waiting to > be downloaded from someone's SUN. I'm sick of the song, personally, but > impressed lthat someone layed it out in that format. > Don't be suprised, there are tons of songs (including one by yours truely) and DJsets (including ones by net DJ's Laura and Tamara) on the sfraves.stanford.edu ftp site. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 00:57:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: ADD this to the ROM, please In-Reply-To: Michael J Minnich "Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/8/94)" (Feb 8, 10:27pm) NET-GATHERING FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH TROY, NY UNDER $5 (TBA when I know how much things cost and about how many people will be here) PHONE: (518) 273-1076 DJs: casper (boston) dave space (albany) haZard (boston) JimmY |-|/\T (boston) panik (philadelphia) sprockett (boston, albany) will-E (manhattan) Most of these DJs are confirmed *pending*rides*, so HELP US OUT! Also, please send me email if you are coming or even if you can't make it, so I can have some idea how many net folx will be here. We will also have some local friends here (strickly word-of-mouth PLURy little creatures). There will also be a small, local party in Saratoga the next night (Sat, the 26th). There will be plenty of crash space around here. Post and/or send me email if you need it. Also, post if you can provide crash space or rides, please. Write me if you want to bring anything phunky to add to the fun (sorry melon -- I would have asked you to spin visuals, but I don't think there would be enough room :( -- mebbe next event) peace -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 02:32:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 FUTURE GROOVE - Long Island, NY (516) 476-2520 March 12, 1994 10 pm sashay@phantom.com DJ's for the event: Micro-Caffeine/Sorted Records Ryde-Layaway Joeski-NYC Reese-Astralwerks Sameer-Caffeine/Essence Omar-Long Island Outlaw Focus-Long Island Underground Quest-ZYX Records dieselBoy-Pittsburgh/Momentum/NERaves ...plus more TBA!!! DJ's in the New DJ room: Oz-Waltham, Mass (hard trance, hard acid) WILL-E-NYC (progressive house, tribal, acid) ...plus more TBA ***If you are a DJ with no professional experience and are interested in spinning at Future Groove, email - sashay@phantom.com This event presented by MikeM, Spam, Astralwerks, & the Island Vibe Family *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 03:13:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , soundz@MIT.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 22 Feb 94 02:32:32 -0500. <9402220741.AA26862@MIT.EDU> >***If you are a DJ with no professional experience and are interested in > spinning at Future Groove, email - sashay@phantom.com I'm one of those DJ's with no professional experience and would like to be considered for Future Groove. I've had experience spinning at some small raves. I spin progressive house and trance. JimmY |-|/\t (condom/boston) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:17:19 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: Raves, etc. in Berlin the address is derave-request@myplanet.tue.sub.org but i had some probs to send some mails to the listserv (derave@myplanet...) a friend said me this cool listserv will stop as its "owner" must pay :(( psyched ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 09:48:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: 11 March 1994 aghh!!! I'm going to my girlfriend's house just notyh of Boston on the 5th of March. I'll be there until the 14 or 15th, so PLEASE send me any info about anything going on!!! I'm trying to get her to rave w/me. Thanks!!!! -Dave Dlapuma1@ithaca.ithaca.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 09:50:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges im on the search too...Please send Badge info! thanx Dave dlapuma1@ithaca.ithaca.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 10:23:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: SPICE > This was my first Brooklyn event, but it won't be my last! This more under- > ground event was really refreshing after the recent flood of commercial, super- > hyped parties. The crowd was there, the vibe was there, and most importantly, > the underground music that we all need was there! Yep, SPICE was pretty damn cool. It reminded me of the good 'ol days. Felt a bit like a STORM rave or an _early_ Quest (RI) party. Nowadays most raves are hyped and filled with too much house music, too much club attitude and not enough back to basics vibe. This party had just the right feel. The music varied from HARD ACID TRANCE to GROOVY ACID TRANCE and back again. It was in a dirty loft/warehouse and it had a fresh vibe with some new people and some old. Great sound system that had only ONE problem during the night (unfortunately right at the beginning of Adam's set! ;0). Jacob had the lineup straight except that Jimmy Crash came right after Adam. He's truly wonderful. Brooklyn knows what's up and their parties always come out just right. Get psyched for SUN! dave. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 13:19:30 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 2/22/94) =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Twenty-three events on the calendar. Wow... This is going to be a fun spring. Hope to see you all soon... -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion list, send mail to listserv@umdd.umd.edu. To subscribe or unsubscribe from the calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message, if you don't know how listserv or majordomo works. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so she can share it with DCRaves. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: Date Name Location For More Info ~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 02/23/94 - TRANSFORMATION - Philadelphia, PA - (???) ??? - ???? 02/25/94 - NET-GATHERING - Troy, NY - (518) 273 - 1076 03/02/94 - PULSE-8 - Asbury Park, NJ - (908) 502 - 0660 03/03/94 - FLOWER - Long Island, NY - (212) 629 - 1960 03/05/94 - SONIC SOUL - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/05/94 - RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE - Nova Scotia, CA - (902) 423 - 1508 03/05/94 - THE FANTASY PROJECT - Poughkeepsie, NY - (914) 463 - 9350 03/11/94 - MINOR INFRACTION - Boston, MA - (617) 283 - 1944 03/11/94 - KICK IT! - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 552 - 8940 03/12/94 - TIMEWARP 2@(rescheduled)- Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 03/12/94 - EXPANSION - Long Island, NY - (516) 476 - 2520 03/12/94 - SPUTNIK 4 - Poughkeepsie, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 03/19/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT III - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 03/26/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 04/02/94 - EQUILIBRIUM - Connecticut - (???) ??? - ???? 04/09/94 - THE FORTRESS - Jersey Shore - (908) 229 - 2946 04/09/94 - PLEASURE DOME - Washington, DC - (410) 347 - 1460 04/23/94 - TEN - Portland, ME - (207) 773 - 6979 04/23/94 - GLOW - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 04/29/94 - TIMEWARP 3 @ - Allentown, PA - (610) 433 - 0503 04/30/94 - SPACE PRODUCTIONS RAVE - Albany, NY - (518) 432 - 4784 05/21/94 - ULTRAVIOLET - Baltimore, MD - ultraworld@aol.com 06/25/94 - BIRTH - Upstate New York - (518) 432 - 4784 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Wednesday, February 23 PHILADELPHIA, PA (???) ??? - ???? TRANSFORMATION Wed., Feb. 23rd, in Philly, "Transformation" with Josh Wink (another Cloud 9 party) _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, Februrary 25 TROY, NY (518) 273 - 1076 NET-GATHERING NET-GATHERING FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 25TH TROY, NY UNDER $5 (TBA when I know how much things cost and about how many people will be here) PHONE: (518) 273-1076 DJs: casper (boston) dave space (albany) haZard (boston) JimmY |-|/\T (boston) panik (philadelphia) sprockett (boston, albany) will-E (manhattan) [Most of these DJs are confirmed *pending*rides*, so HELP US OUT! Also, please send me email if you are coming or even if you can't make it, so I can have some idea how many net folx will be here. We will also have some local friends here (strickly word-of-mouth PLURy little creatures). There will also be a small, local party in Saratoga the next night (Sat, the 26th). There will be plenty of crash space around here. Post and/or send me email if you need it. Also, post if you can provide crash space or rides, please. Write me if you want to bring anything phunky to add to the fun (sorry melon -- I would have asked you to spin visuals, but I don't think there would be enough room :( -- mebbe next event) - goldbn@rpi.edu] _______________________________________________________________________________ Wednesday, March 2 ASBURY PARK, NJ (908) 502 - 0660 PULSE-8 P U L S E - 8 First SERIOUS underground in the Jersey Shore area. DJ's: Gee Money (Glen Garcia) ~ Metro/Vinyl Mixing dark breaks and underground house Mars (Marshal Hamilton) ~ NE-Raves/Energize Spinning hard trance and acid Visuals: T.H.L. EFX 9pm - 2am Tickets $6 ($2 off when you leave your name and number on the voice mail line) Call for location... INFO: 908.502.0660 _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, March 3 LONG ISLAND, NY (212) 629 - 1960 FLOWER The Fluid Posse presents... "F L O W E R" Thursday, March 3rd [Note from MARS: This will be a small underground party] featuring Acid Jazz and experimental hip hop in one room with DJ's: Tom LaRoc That Kid Chirs In the second area will be DJ`s: Micro James Christian Sameer It will take place on Long Island Tickets: $6 over 21, $8 underage Call (212)629-1960 for more info. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 NOVA SCOTIA, CA (902) 423 - 1508 RHYTHMIC DISSONANCE Cognition Audiworks and Dystonia present Rhythmic Dissonance Saturday March 5th, 10pm til? 1588 Granville st. Downtown Halifax Nova Scotia tickets $5 in advance $6 at door live acts include...Automata, Protozoa, Bass Response, Sub-Level and Fork Boy oh, and Neural Firing Squad too. DJs...Mastermind, Blue, Rinse, lucidril, Kali, LAShTAL and Nonsense Info lines NS 902/423/1508 NB 506/458/8735 it's a pre-release party for the rhythmic dissonance compilation of eastern canadian techno talent. hope some of you will come. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SONIC SOUL Interactive Trance Ambient Atmosphere _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 5 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (914) 463 - 9350 THE FANTASY PROJECT ACME Laboratories presents THE FANTASY PROJECT a benefit for the Woodstock Animal Rights Movement DJs: Doc Martin (SF Wicked crew) John Williams (SF Wicked crew) Micro & Lewis (four turntables) Osheen (RI) Adam X (Groove Records) Frankie Bones (Groove Records) Troposphere (DMC Records, NY) Happy (Boston) 10 pm - 10 am $18 warehouse location directly across from Marist College Poughkeepsie, NY _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 11 BOSTON, MA (617) 283 - 1944 MINOR INFRACTION vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu 11 March 1994 MINOR INFRACTION at Schneider Center, Wellesley College (an event organized by net-ravers) live performance by f(x) dj's: donato (house of lordvale) jimmy hat (condom, boston) secret agent mellow (dEEEtroit) oz (blisss, boston) (DJ lineup is STILL unconfirmed as of today) lasers by JNA smartbar by jennbug more info? e-mail vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu or call 617.283.1944 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, March 11 PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 552 - 8940 KICK IT! On Friday March 11th, 1994, Special K Productions, of Philly, will present KICK IT! (215) 552-8940 Dj's upstairs will be: MICRO SOUL SLINGER JASON JINX FRANKIE RYDE WINK NIGEL RICHARDS KARL K KAOS Dj's downstairs will be: DALE CHARLES KING BRITT TONY PEGAS DOZIA BOY BLAKE OKEEFE [The event will take place in Downtown Philly in an excellent space, chances are you have never been in this place before, but if you have, you will be glad to return. There will be an aftahours put on by Philly's own T.H.C. Productions (215)-523-4339. Already confirmed for the aftahours are Wink and King Britt with a tag-team assault, a rare event not to be missed. There is no need to add any hype to the info on this party. The line-up and the production crew speak for themselves. Special K Productions are Keith and Kevin, formerly of BigFunHouse. You can read their column in Slurp!, the phattest zine around on the scene(the next issue should come out mid-march, perhaps just in time for red). You will not want to miss this party, it will be a quality event with an even higher quality vibe. It will be the best event going on in Philly untill the much awaited return of a H.E.R.E. party. In case you weren't there, and you probably weren't, the H.E.R.E. parties are right between catastrophic and storm in the book of rave history. When Wink and his gang return with H.E.R.E. later this spring, you will not want to be anywhere else. andy c.] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II (rescheduled) GSC1@Lehigh.Edu Makeup date for TIMEWARP II is Saturday, March 12, 1994 Lineup still stands... ROOM 1: Joey Beltram Trace Mars geoffE Ikon ROOM 2: DB Scott Henry Remic Mark M(6 turntables) Miko ROOM 3: Ursol(San Francisco) Lazlo(Portland, Oregon) Intelligent Lighting Video Projections by HIGH RISE 3 rooms in a warehouse WARP fee $12 INFO:(610)433-0503 or GSC1@Lehigh.Edu _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 476 - 2520 EXPANSION -> Friday March 4, 1994...EXPANSION...expanding the Long Island Underground Presented by the Island Vibe Network...with DJ's Micro, James Christian, Joeski, plus other SURPRISE (and I mean SURPRISE) DJ's...call the Island Vibe Line 516-476-2520 for more info. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 12 POUGHKEEPSIE, NY (212) 465 - 3299 SPUTNIK 4 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 19 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT 3 Spiritual Movement 3 will be happening on March 19th. The location will be fully legal and fire inspected. The DJ line-up: Neuromancer Micro DJ Sun Jason Jinx Scott Henry Richie Hawtin Moby Lasers by Pawn Stiltwalkers Gyrobix and Visuals by Psylicybin For more info, contact Modern Music at (410)523-1882 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, March 26 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Current info-> Boston: 617-541-4258 NYC: 212-631-4290 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 2 CONNECTICUT (???) ??? - ???? EQUILIBRIUM United Techno presents: EQUILIBRIUM APRIL 2 CT James Christian, Jimmy Crash, Troposphere, Ryde, Happy, Frankie Bones, Micro, Mr. Trash, Joeski, Space Ace, Scott Richmond _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 JERSEY SHORE (908) 229 - 2946 THE FORTRESS "T H E F O R T R E S S" Saturday, April 9th 3 sound systems, 2 chill-out rooms DJ's: Hell Psychotrope Download XTC Blackout Denard Gee Money Mars Time: Midnight - Dawn [More info to come] Location in Jersey Shore area and will be announced day before event via the info line... INFO: (908) 229 - 2946 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 9 WASHINGTON, DC (410) 347 - 1460 PLEASURE DOME PLASMA1000@aol.com On April 9, 1994, Washington/Baltimore/Annapolis will witness an assault from the UK in a fashion that has never been witnessed in this area. Energizer, Sandman, Plasma and Apple present: PLEASUREDOME94. Live PA's Baby Ford 1.8.7. DJ's Colin Faver Dave Angel Keoki Dmitry Jason Jinx King Britt James Christian On-e Gerret Frerrich Who Sun Mr Kleen Lee Speed Demon Greg Sargent Odyssy Kieth Kennebeck Karl Matthews Sketti Bobble LG Double 07 Deitrich Robby Dyno Acid Trevor Lamont Reese Tiff This event will take place in three areas under one massive roof at a venue that is completely new, 100% legal and 100% pleasure. If anybody is interested in vending, promoting, running bus trips or would like their info line on the flyer, please call 410.347.1460. But hurry, flyers are going to print next week. (A DC line is upcomming.) Comments and suggestions can also be left at: PLASMA1000@aol.com. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 PORTLAND, ME (207) 773 - 6979 TEN by KC and the Sunrise Gang _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 23 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com GLOW _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, April 29 ALLENTOWN, PA (610) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP 3 GSC1@Lehigh.Edu 10p.m. - ??? The third event in the series that takes you through time and space... 4 BIG SOUND ARENAS ARENA 1: Confirmed Adam X, Jimmy Crash, geoffE v. Jeffee breakbeat battle, Ikon plus more... ARENA 2: Confirmed Wink, Goodwill, Scott Richmond, Miko plus more... ARENA 3: Ambient heaven with Ursol(San Francisco) and Lazlo(Portland, Oregon) plus more... ARENA 4: The best up-and-coming DJ's spin an hour set each. Want to be a part, send tapes to geoffE before Feb. 28! DJ's chosen will be announced at flyer press time!!! Intelligent lighting - Video Projections - UNITY INFO. (610)433-0503 or e-mail GSC1@Lehigh.Edu Mail tapes to geoffE 12 W. 4th St. Bethlehem, PA 18015 RE: T3 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, April 30 ALBANY, NY (518) 432 - 4784 SPACE PRODUCTION RAVE [from mistress loretta] SPACE PRODUCTION will be throwing a GIANT TRIBAL RAVE in the albany, ny area on the 30th of April. Drummers are being solicited (reply via the info #). _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, May 21 BALTIMORE, MD ultraworld@aol.com ULTRAVIOLET ULTRAVIOLET in conjunction with Primary productions DJs: Scott Henry Dj Sun Who Greg Seargent 3 3 3 M Gee Osheen Debo Joeski w/JOESKI at the after hours tix will most likely be $13, the event will be in baltimore times: 10 pm - 8 am with a free afterhours at the reel chill spot. make sure you are dressed appropriately for the black light theme! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, June 25 UPSTATE NEW YORK (518) 432 - 4784 BIRTH kumquat@acs.bu.edu Space Productions presents: B I R T H Big Dipper, Gearhead, the Mission Crew, and Space Productions are all working together for the first time to bring you BIRTH: CONCEPTION: We have all wanted this for a long time. Remember Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect? THIS *IS* THE NEXT STEP. It's time for all musical tribes to come together in a way like never before. on JUNE 25, 1994..... WE UNITE IN A NEW RHYTHM. In a large, legal, UNIQUE outdoor location that is central to the ENTIRE northeast. this will bring people from *all* facets of the musical community. By not limiting ourselves to one genre we allow ourselves to experience the beauty that each genre offers. we seek to integrate members from communityies that would not usually get to experience a rave, but that hold similar ideals of PLUR. By adding a human, live aspect to this event (in a LARGE capaciity) we hope to create a more interactive atmosphere for the attendees. *we are seeking persons who wish to help the idea: percussionists, drummers, drum circles, African, Latin, Native American, Asain........tribal dj's, cutting edge live experimental music & dance, food services, Promoters, Ideas, and suggestions are welcome and invited. once again: 518.43.BIRTH & kumquat@acs.bu.edu _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [laying the foundation, building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 13:30:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: RED info What's the deal with Red? It's only a month away and I haven't heard of an info line yet, or even a tentative DJ lineup. Everyone is expecting Red to be a huge party, and with things running this slow, I'm thinking it might collapse again. Also, Red falls on the first night of Passover. I have a lot of friends who are Jewish and won't be able to make Red for this reason. Will anyone else be staying home on the 26th for this reason? Or are most ravers just too anti-tradition to care about Passover? --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [laying the foundation, building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 14:29:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Derek Tiffany Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Derek Tiffany Subject: March 12th Caffeine thing... Hey...could someone re-send me the info on the March 12th Caffeine thing? I was expecting it to be in the ROM and it wasn't...and I'm trying to convince some friends of mine to hire dieselBoy to come down here April 30th (interested Damian?)...now this isn't an easy thing to do 'cuz these guys don't like anything but house...but I think this would help...so please send me the info so I can include it in the copy of the ROM that I'm gonna be printing out and showing to them... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:02:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: Re: RED info The flyers are going to the printer today. Don't know what the lineup will be except that they couldn't get Underworld from London, but then again, maybe they don't want anyone spouting out gossip like I'm sorta doing right now. Shhh... weien@pageworks.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 14:51:20 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: TIMEWARP 2 CANCELLED!!! Brothers and sisters, TIMEWARP 2 has been cancelled and will be combined with TIMEWARP 3 on APRIL 29 to equal.... TIMEWARP 2 + 3 !!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry if this information is inconvenient to anyone. I knew about it last week but I had a four day break from school so I wasn't near a computer. The DJ line-up will be confirmed in about 2 weeks. So keep your eyes peeled because it is gonna be PHAT!!! Up and coming DJ's(of which I am still one he he) send those demos up until FEB. 28 for consideration in Arena 4. Keep practicing. JUNGALISTIC BAD BWOY(I just had to put that in here), geoffe GSC1@Lehigh.Edu P.S.-The Freight Yard now hosts every Friday night "FATHOM" from 10p.m. until 2 a.m. with myself, Miko and special guests. This week we are having a Pajama Party with DJ Mace from Philly. $3 to get in with your jammies on, $5 without. In the near future hours may be expanded to 4a.m. to make Allentown the hot-spot of the North. Anyone who wants to help with promo your mail is always apprecitated. Peace BREAKS FOR DA FACE/RUMBLING JUNGLE MAKES MY TUMMY MUMBLE!!!!!!! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:07:34 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: music bashing > Nowadays most raves are hyped and filled with too much house music, too much > club attitude and not enough back to basics vibe. You know it was this time last year that everyone was bashing hardcore on this list and being a strong Brooklyn hardcore supporter at the time, I defended it from all different points of attack from people saying it was cold and one person in particular called it "evil" time and time again... but I won't name any names as that person is still on the list I think and is no longer the fluffy stuffed animal he used to be but now a true hardcore fan. After all that madness, it was the breakbeat bashing. I didn't come to it's rescue because personally breakbeat doesn't really move me that much. When I was living in England, where breakbeat is more readily available, I tried to like it and did for a while but it's not for me. Regardless, I *never* joined in the breakbeat bashing that took place here and then my good friend Damian aka DieselBoy came to it's defense and brought justice. If you don't believe me you can go read the backlogs that are sitting on techno.stanford.edu and see for yourself. Lately, I've noticed a lot of house music bashing on here and I have to put my foot down. I think most of us here are reasonably intelligent. We know how to use a computer and most of you here are in college. Putting down a genre of music someone else really enjoys only brings down the vibe. I don't think too much house music is a problem any more than too much acid trance or too much breakbeat is a problem. Too much of anything is no good. Too much club attitude - I agree. Leave it in the clubs. Not enough back to basics vibe? agreed again. Will you not have a good time if there isn't a smart bar or a bouncey castle or a 32 million color laser? Simplicity is best: music and dancing. However, don't bring other people down just because they don't enjoy the same music you do or for the same reasons you do. Laura, our ne-raves mommy back then, used to bash breakbeat with the best of them until she realized that it's not a very constructive thing to do. Not very PLUR. unity & respect stick to mind. A lot of people turned to techno to escape club politics and house music. Understandable but when you bash house music, what exactly are you bshing? Is it the wailing divas aka deep house that is prominant in the club scene? or does that include all forms of house music like tribal house, acid house, progressive house, hard house??? Have you tried listening to any of these? Do you know the difference? I'm surprised more people aren't reacting to blanket statements like that. House music has evolved a great deal, has been around for a long time and is the foundation for so much of this music we listen to. Have some respect not only for the culture but at least for those of us who enjoy it. I still don't like breakbeat and I don't listen to much hardcore these days but I still have an open mind. Do you or do you instantly turn off when you hear a house beat? > This party had just the right feel. The music varied from HARD ACID TRANCE > to GROOVY ACID TRANCE and back again. sounds like too much acid trance. BTW, Dave, I'm not flaming you *at all*. I'm glad you had a good time and that's what counts. However, I don't think it's fair to hold music responsible for people who have a bad time. This goes out to the list in general. Think about what you're saying. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 15:47:55 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: music bashing will,\ thank you very much for what was obviously an intelligent and thought out post. ive been thinging about this subject quite a bit now and felt like i should add a few comments: now, ill be the first to admit that im not a big house fan--everyone who knows me knows that i LOVE breaks. why do i like breaks so much? i dunno, its probably because of the beat...i love complex rhythms. unfortunatly, i am the only breaks dj here in richmond...it seems like everyone else is congregating under the banner of house. i feel like im almost an outcast! and this is NOT a bash on house, by any means. what this IS a bash on is the closemindedness i've noticed here as far as music goes. recently, every party here in richmond has been all-house, and the promotors (though my friends) want to keep it a "house groove", end of discussion. everyone seems to talk of the "house groove", like it was some omniprescent force of being--and i cant seem to escape it. i like a good house set, but the whole night? i always like the events that seem to offer a TOTAL experience-i want to hear ALL styles, not just one. i really cant stand an all house party. but then again, i probably would get just as annoyed with an all breaks party, or an all hardcore or all trance party. i guess the thing to remember is: though you might dig a particular genre, not everyone else does...please try to remember this! i remember that i used to dance a lot...now it seems like i stand around too much, waiting for something i can get into. i only wonder how long i'm gonna pay to do this. -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 16:00:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Enphorcer Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Enphorcer Subject: jammy party In-Reply-To: <199402222031.PAA17806@umd5.umd.edu> from "geoffE" at Feb 22, 94 02:51:20 pm geoff, > The DJ line-up will be confirmed in about 2 weeks. So keep your eyes > peeled because it is gonna be PHAT!!! keep me in mind. my record collection is growing... :) > This week we are having > a Pajama Party with DJ Mace from Philly. $3 to get in with your jammies > on, $5 without. i assume i have been axed for this one cause you never told me one way or the other. i spoke with trace and apprently lucky spin closed down for 3 weeks so they could move to a bigger store. my order has been put on a massive hold. it sucks. i am getting new records this week. will keep you up to date. write me back mr thesis. damian ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 16:46:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: TIMEWARP 2 CANCELLED!!! THIS PISSES ME OFF! I had my whole weekend planned out. pisser pisser pisser. a little venting from matt ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 16:48:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DANIEL60@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DANIEL60@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: Hey folks.. end dicuss ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:12:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WILL-E Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WILL-E Subject: Re: TIMEWARP 2 CANCELLED!!! In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 22 Feb 1994 16:46:00 EDT > THIS PISSES ME OFF! > I had my whole weekend planned out. > pisser pisser pisser. > a little venting from matt So come to Future Groove instead! DieselBoy who was scheduled to spin at Timewarp II will be spinning there and so will I! Come show your support. Here's the flyer one again which didn't make it to the Rave-O-Matic this week but hopefully will be in next week's ROM. FUTURE GROOVE - Long Island, NY (516) 476-2520 March 12, 1994 10 pm sashay@phantom.com DJ's for the event: Micro-Caffeine/Sorted Records Ryde-Layaway Joeski-NYC Reese-Astralwerks Sameer-Caffeine/Essence Omar-Long Island Outlaw Focus-Long Island Underground Quest-ZYX Records dieselBoy-Pittsburgh/Momentum/NERaves ...plus more TBA!!! DJ's in the New DJ room: Oz-Waltham, Mass (hard trance, hard acid) WILL-E-NYC (progressive house, tribal, acid) ...plus more TBA ***If you are a DJ with no professional experience and are interested in spinning at Future Groove, email - sashay@phantom.com This event presented by MikeM, Spam, Astralwerks, & the Island Vibe Family *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:12:04 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 In-Reply-To: <199402220750.CAA01747@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, Ashley Goebel wrote: > ***If you are a DJ with no professional experience and are interested in > spinning at Future Groove, email - sashay@phantom.com > This event presented by MikeM, Spam, Astralwerks, & the Island Vibe Family > > I am a DJ from Philly, PA. I would like to be considered for Future Groove. I spin breakbeat and house. PaniK panik@access.netaxs.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:18:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , groovybass Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: NJ goings on If anyone knows about anything in the central NJ area, please keep me posted. thanks! groovybass@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:32:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "THE SLEN-STER..." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "THE SLEN-STER..." Subject: join join, if this is not the correct address will someone please send me the correct one to join . thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:26:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 In-Reply-To: "" "Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994" (Feb 22, 9:16am) On Feb 22, 9:16am, "" wrote: > Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 > >***If you are a DJ with no professional experience and are interested in > > spinning at Future Groove, email - sashay@phantom.com > > I'm one of those DJ's with no professional experience and would like to be > considered for Future Groove. I've had experience spinning at some small > raves. I spin progressive house and trance. > > JimmY |-|/\t (condom/boston) >-- End of excerpt from "" If you want to hear JimmY -- come to Albany, Friday! Also, sprockett, panik, haZard, space, will-E and casper (not necessarily in that order) B THERE! email me if you can or can't come (I need to have some idea how many of you are coming). peace -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:18:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Spice and music bashing Hey all, I know that this is a few days late, but I have to put in my perspective on Spice, 'cause it was such a phat party. First of all, I'm going to repeat what was said about Dave Trance. I don't get into much trance, at least not for dancing to, so you know what I think (thought) of the guy. Before Spice, I had marked him as one of the flukes in an otherwise hard and acidy lineup. Well, I was wrong. As far as DJs go, I think that Dave Trance spun the hardest and craziest set at Spice. From his first track on, it was apparent that he knew what the crowd wanted, and was going to deliver it. His whole set was crazy phat, trippy, and hard, but the first 20 to 30 minutes were the best. At one point, in fact, he started mixing in this INSANE distorted acidy scream, and when he finally threw that track on, da room filled wit' bass, and everone's heads filled with craziness! Seriously, I don't know how many acid sets I've heard in the past, but I'd definitely say that this was the best. I'm not sure what to expect from Dave Trance in the future, but if I ever see him on the lineup for another BROOKLYN (that's muthafuckin' BROOKLYN!!) event, then I'm going to start walking immediately! After Dave Trance was Tera, who spun another crazy, hard acid set. He didn't get as hard as Dave did, but he was just as trippy. All I can say is thank you to whomever sold these guys their records, 'cause otherwise I wouldn't be writing to the list now. After Tera was DX-13. I've heard DX-13 play twice before, and each time was a treat. In fact, last time I heard them play was at Quest 2, where they unveiled "Manhattan" (I think that's what it's called), which is the track with the "Motherfucking NEW YORK" sample in it, which just came out on IS last month. Well, DX-13 has always been pretty acidy hardcore, but just for Spice it seems that they decided to play extra acidy hardstuff. I think they played about 5 tracks, and every single one of them was juicy. Every one had crazy dark acid in it, and more than half of the tracks had the fatest 909 kick in it that I've ever heard, at least as far as I can remember. What made it even better is that because it was live it sounded that more massive, and it was even better suited for a Brooklyn event. After DX-13 the party slowed down a bit, but not too much, as the rest of the Brooklyn and Manhattan crew kept kickin' the bass bins with more and more and more and more acid. And the crowd kept going and going and going and going. I don't think that I've seen as many people dancing for as long in quite a while, maybe three or four months. All in all, I'd say that this was consistently the best event that I've been too, with the best music and the best vibe. I didn't get any attitude from anyone that night, not from the kids who looked like they spent $200 on their ravey outfits, and not from the group of guys yelling "motherfucking hardcore!" all night either. This event is exactly what I've come to expect the Brooklyn scene to be like, from talking to the kids there, from reading UOS, and from going to Groove every few months. Brooklyn's what got me started in the East Coast scene, and I'm glad to say that Brooklyn's what's keeping the scene true in my eyes. As far as music bashing goes, here's my opinion. When I say that I'm glad the night was all acid, and most of it was hard, I don't mean to say that I hate house or trance. What I mean to say is that it's nice to get a good bit of everything all night. Although Spice was almost all acid, it had some breaks, it had some hardcore, and it had some trance too. What was different, however, is that everyone in the room was standing up for most of the night, and as far as I could see, most of the people were dancing too. What that says to me is that the kids came without their "I only like house" or "I only like this or that" attitudes, and they danced instead. When I first got into the scene a year to year and a half ago, there was more hardcore in it than there is now, that's the truth. But, every event that I went to had breaks and house/trance spun at it too. Now, on the other hand, most events that I go to only have house and trance spun at them. You could say that that's the DJ's fault, but no one wants to hire a DJ that doesn't play the crowd. But because the DJ's trying to play the crowd, and becuase the crowd always seems to come to an event these days with the "all house" attitude, what are we supposed to do? So, if you ever hear me complaining about only hearing house or trance at an event, don't think I hate it, 'cause I don't. I just get really sick of hearing people get so fucking snotty that they won't deal with good breaks, hardcore, hard acid, or acid in general. And I'm also sick and tired of hearing "we want this to be a happy party, so there won't be any hardcore at it," 'cause hardcore and hard acid is what makes me really happy, and you can be sure that it makes a lot of other kids out there happy too. Lastly, I'd like to point something out to all those people out there who still think that house and trance are the shit. Adam X is a brother from Brooklyn, and he's down with the hardcore as much as any other hard head out there. . . and I've never heard anyone else spin trance better than Adam! Face it, Brooklyn's got everybody else beat, one way or another!! Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 19:33:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: waiting for godot Well, not Godot actually...But as jason said, it is hell when you're waiting around for something you can get into...You're there, all hyped up to move & bounce around & stuff..And then you start, but the music doesn't supporrt you or keep you up...You dance a bit, but the uplifting feeling isn't there (maybe your drugs haven't kicked in ;) )....arrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh how frustrating....and you can never really really really dance when the music only gets halfway into yer hed :( Going through frustrating days in lab & blowing steam off on the net :( Terence ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 20:12:39 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "THE SLEN-STER..." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "THE SLEN-STER..." Subject: join Join ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 18:37:04 -0700 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LUKEY@WORDPERFECT.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LUKEY@WORDPERFECT.COM Subject: Rip off in SLC, be on the lookout -Reply >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a notice to the entire nation of ravers of what happened here in Salt Lake City last week. I am sending this out so this person can be stopped, and also so our city isn't completely black-balled over the incidident. Davey Wallbeck did not. His promotions were always cash influenced and geared in a rip-off manner. He had been arrested previously for check-writing and had continue to finance several of his promotions in the same way. The last time I DJ'd, I received a flyer from him for a rave in which the Hardkiss brothers would be playing. I had met Robbie previously, and ran into Scott via Jon Drukman at the Orb at Warfield. I felt bad that their introduction to Salt Lake City would be through Davey. However, I never expected the resulting disaster to ensue. I was phoned yesterday by a friend who told me that Davey had not only shafted the Hardkisses on their payment, but had left town with all the rental equipment as well. All in all, he stole a U-Haul trailer, several thousand dollars worth of lights, and probably in excess of $10K of sound equipment. Even though I am not associated with the scene anymore, I know how difficult it will be for the other promoters remaining to throw gigs now. I have no idea where Davey has gone, but be on the lookout for him. He is about 5'9" with long black hair. He is almost oriental in appearance and has a big greasy grin on most of the time. If you run into him, REPORT HIM. DO NOT SUPPORT him, or you run the risk of your scene being tarnished as well. On behalf of Salt Lake City, I apologize to the Hardkisses and Hardkiss Music over the entire mess. People like Orbital, Garth, Carlos, Moonpub, Mark E. Quark, Eli Star, and more know what kind of good treatment is possible in Salt Lake. I wish I could only make it up to you. There are only three names that I can absolutely recommend to DJs who are thinking about coming to Salt Lake. My own, TASTE, which for the most part is only doing small, free, outdoor events, Playscool, and Mechanized. If anyone else talks to you, get your cash in advance. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< I can personally attest to the truth of this post, and being a DJ here in Salt Lake, I'd like to add a few things. First of all, Davey is half-japanese, in case that helps anyone to identify him. He has promoted raves under the name of "Squish", and for a short time, under the name of "Evil Puppet Head." He was a partner in the Evil Puppet Head clothing line, and while they are no longer in business, he still has a small inventory of Evil Puppet Head merchandise, and he's probably wearing it. I DJ'd at one of Davey's parties a couple of months ago, and made sure to get my money in advance, because I've known for a while that he is not above trying to rip his DJ's off. Not only did he rip-off the Hardkisses, he also attempted to rip-off Dazy, another local SLC DJ. The last 2 parties he's thrown have been completely profit-related, renting the bare minimum in equipment, throwing the party in abandoned warehouses that legally should have been condemned, and taking money at the door (a sure sign of impending bust). The last 2 parties he threw were busted before 2 am. I was shocked when I arrived at the party I was to DJ at, and found that it was in a warehouse that was totally unsafe. There was exposed electrical wiring everywhere; there were massive holes in the floor (some as big as 10' by 10'), which Davey simply covered with plywood panels. There was also no running water. I voiced my complaints to Davey, but he simply had no real concern. I could tell that the only truly important thing to him was to pack as many people in at $10 a head as he possibly could before the cops arrived. No promoter should knowingly throw a party that will get busted. If you do run into Davey, please report him to the FBI. He is on file there not only for check fraud, but also for grand theft. The scene here in Salt Lake isn't large enough that many people have their own sound equipment or lights, and he's made it so that the people that have been renting sound and lights to different promoters are going to be a lot more hesitant to do this in the future. Perhaps Davey doesn't realize the extent of the damage that he's caused for all of us, but we like to think that our scene promotes peace, love, unity, and respect. Davey has seriously damaged these ideals, and the public's view of our scene. If all ravers are viewed by the public as drug-abusers, thieves, and felons, we won't have a scene anymore and underground parties will be outlawed. I apologize for the length of this message, but I seriously hope that Salt Lake City won't be looked down upon based on the actions of a single individual. I can also give good recommendations to Playscool, Mechanized, and Taste, as these promoters have been involved in the scene here for quite a while, and have always been honest in the way they do business. Peace, Love, and Bass... Luke ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 21:11:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , taylor deupree Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: human mesh dance / P-909 From: taylor deupree Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: music styles dietric and i were talking.. reminiscing is morelike it.. the other day.. about hthe"good old days" of raves.. and remembering how the best events were always the ones that followed that "good old days"formula"".. where a night would start hard.. turn trancey... rise back to hard (with breakbeat or har acid).. and then chillout in the morning with trance and groovy house.. this, to me, always added to the vibe.. knowing that all kinds of music were present to please everyone... soon.. events became "all hardcore events".. or all acid events".. which were ok in thir own way.. but i think oerall decreased the vibe.. by narrowing the audience... and, at thes events where EVERYTHING is played.. it always gave time to relax.. and sit down.. during music that didnt move you too much.. i don't know what this post means.. or ads up to.. besides missing the old days (which i've been doing an awful laot lately)... and just a reminder that we're all into different things..and it all ads up to one beautiful whole in the end. peace. >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 21:30:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MELI@VAXVMSX.BABSON.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: 11 March 1994 ZOWIE & ZOOINKS!!!! A RAVER AT WELLESLEY AND A MICRORAVE *** EXPLAIN FURTHER I'M A LONE RAVER AT BABSON!!! I'M NEW AT THIS E-MAIL SHIT SO SORRY TO EVERY PERSON WHO GETS THIS MESSAGE. VANNESA, PLEASE DO TELL MORE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN WELLESLEY!!!! *************************************************************************** MIKE (M*I*K*EE) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 21:52:10 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MIKE-D IN THE PLACE TO BE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: MIKE-D IN THE PLACE TO BE Subject: help a friend could someone send a friend of mine the e mail address for joining the list? i lost my copy of it and have no idea what it is. his address is sleonard@ucs.indiana.edu. thanks. mykill. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:03:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Selway Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Selway Subject: Re: music styles In-Reply-To: <9402230253.AA39336@brick.purchase.edu>; from "taylor deupree" at Feb 22, 94 9:11 pm taylor said: > > dietric and i were talking.. reminiscing is morelike it.. the other day.. > about hthe"good old days" of raves.. and remembering how the best events > were always the ones that followed that "good old days"formula"".. where > a night would start hard.. turn trancey... rise back to hard (with > breakbeat or har acid).. and then chillout in the morning with trance and > groovy house.. right on - a good party should have an overall musical momentum - just like a good track - there should be direction and movement -Spy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:22:09 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , donato Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: donato Subject: a francais question, for those in the know ... the question: any record (vinyl) stores in St. Etienne or Lyon ? all answers to: donato@world.std.com or donato@applix.com please provide names and addresses. thanks! :) posting for the first time in 3 ages, donato ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 22:50:16 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: Re: music styles yup... the best nights are those when there is a progression in music...not just the same type all night(or throughout a whole dj's set). i feel that we need to unify the whole through the parts, and =) and the scene is not dead...it's just adjusting and learning and getting better. anyhows, i still love it. =) =0 slurp =) hary hey...i'd like to know more 'bout the wellesly thang as well... ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 23:20:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristin DiPasquo? Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristin DiPasquo? Subject: Re: TIMEWARP 2 CANCELLED!!! In-Reply-To: <199402222159.QAA01028@umd5.umd.edu> On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, wrote: > THIS PISSES ME OFF! > > I had my whole weekend planned out. > > pisser pisser pisser. > > > > a little venting from matt hey..sorry if i missed it but, why was it cancelled? that *really* sucks...it was going to be my first rave, and probably the only one id ever get to go to...all my friends from college were going to be home, shit. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 23:17:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Minor Infraction crash-landing help wanted hey kids, I'd really love to come on up to Boston for the Minor Infraction party at Wellesley, and I'd be eternally grateful if someone could offer me a little crash-site in the area for myself, and perhaps for a few other weary travellers who might come along with me. If you live along my locus of travel :) ie. Long Island, NYC metro, southern CT etc. etc. and need a ride up, leave me mail at this address: rquazi@ccvm.sunysb.edu. I can offer two spaces, three if you don't mind squeezing (though a 4 or 5 hour ride squashed in the back of a 2-door ain't really my idea of travelling in style, you know :) I guess this is a bona-fide H-O-M entry, so I hereby hand it over to Melanie :) . Take care and hope to see some of you really soon! - RiSHAD / FiSH ~~~~~~ ~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 22 Feb 1994 23:37:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: RED info In-Reply-To: Message of Tue, 22 Feb 1994 13:30:39 -0500 from I too am not going to be able t attend RED because of Passover. It really stink s IMHO. I hope that everyone who goes has a great time, and I hope to be at the next great net-gathering :) BeccaMD :) Oh yes, and about the postings concerning badges-- Dan and I are working on i t. If any of you know where to get hard laminations done in the DC-Balto area.. ..let us know. He has a possibility, but if you know of anywhere....:) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 01:20:56 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Vanessa Wang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Vanessa Wang Subject: Re: Minor Infraction crash-landing help wanted In-Reply-To: <199402230459.XAA06105@umd5.umd.edu>; from "Rishad J. Quazi" at Feb 22, 94 11:17 pm > > hey kids, > > I'd really love to come on up to Boston for the Minor Infraction > party at Wellesley, and I'd be eternally grateful if someone could offer me > a little crash-site in the area for myself, and perhaps for a few other weary > travellers who might come along with me. > - RiSHAD / FiSH > ~~~~~~ ~~~~ hm...well i do have a living room with a big floor and a sofa in it where people can crash (taylor and tina have first dibs but there's lotsa room if you're willing to sleep on the floor)...all i can suggest is that you bring sleeping bags. :) i can probably handle up to around 10 guests or so. maybe people at brandeis can offer space? or babson? or in boston? whichever. :) yay! i'm glad people are coming! yayayayayayyyaay! :) *wfs* jetta. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 01:23:46 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: Re: NE-Rave Badges In-Reply-To: <199402221730.MAA00600@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu> BadgeME!! SUESS:0* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 02:04:22 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: Re: Minor Infraction crash-landing help wanted ahem....i think i prob can swing some space :) :^* love and frogs!!! neith (remember thought this is my mom & dad's home...so i will have a limit that i don't know yet) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 02:06:30 -0500 Reply-To: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Hossam A. El-Saie" Subject: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! in an earlier post, people were complaining that their spring break weekend raving plans were ruined: On Tue, 22 Feb 1994, wrote: > THIS PISSES ME OFF! > I had my whole weekend planned out. > pisser pisser pisser. --- and on tues, 22 feb, kristin dipasquo wrote: that *really* sucks...it was going to be my first rave, and probably the only one id ever get to go to...all my friends from college were going to be home, shit. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ well look kids! heres the answer to your problem...go to future groove! while im really sorry to see geoff-E push timewarp2 back, we can still make the most of the situation and have LOADS of fun at the same time...if you were planning on doing the kick it!/timewarp2 weekend, no problem..go to kick it! (and hear the amazing wink and king britt, and other awesome djs) on fri nite, and then in stead of t2, go up to long island the next day (only about 2-3hr drive from philly) and check this lineup below! if youre coming from up north above nyc, then definitely check out the micro-rave going on at wellesley (email jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu for more info) its a intimate gathering of friends/ravers thats guaranteed to have a vibe thicker than SH*T! :) what im most excited about is that 3 of our very own net-buddies, dieselBoy, Will-E,and Oz are going to be spinning at this PHAT event alongside these other great djs.... those of you who love the breaks have to come to this. period. this is dieselBoy's first appearance of '94 back on the ne-raves scene, and those of you not lucky enough to live in pittsburgh and hear him spin on a regular basis DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE MISSING. i have seen and heard many dj's and i can honestly say that dieselBoy cares about and loves what he does..he only wants to pump the crowd and in my opinion, hes one of the best dj's on the scene. (not just limited to breakbeat either) dieselBoy is gonna EXPLODE in '94....be there and catch him at his first rave of the year. you'll be more than pleased with the surprises he'll throw at you as well. if youre expecting the regular, average breaks dj...guess again...;) another dj from the net who'll be spinning at this event is Will-E from manhattan....he spins the classiest acid, house and tribal youve heard in a long time...another dj to be on the lookout for in '94 and one whose sure to make u groove... finally, we have Oz from boston coming down and lending his talents to this PHAT event...all you acid/trance fans who like it HARD, be sure not to miss him....you wont be dissapointed...;) so check it, heres the lineup once again... >FUTURE GROOVE - Long Island, NY (516) 476-2520 >March 12, 1994 10 pm sashay@phantom.com > > >DJ's for the event: > Micro-Caffeine/Sorted Records Ryde-Layaway > Joeski-NYC Reese-Astralwerks > Sameer-Caffeine/Essence Omar-Long Island Outlaw > Focus-Long Island Underground Quest-ZYX Records > dieselBoy-Pittsburgh/Momentum/NERaves ...plus more TBA!!! > >DJ's in the New DJ room: > Oz-Waltham, Mass (hard trance, hard acid) > WILL-E-NYC (progressive house, tribal, acid) > ...plus more TBA Island Underground Quest-ZYX Records > dieselBoy-Pittsburgh/Momentum/NERaves ...plus more TBA!!! > >***If you are a DJ with no professional experience and are interested in > spinning at Future Groove, email - sashay@phantom.com >This event presented by MikeM, Spam, Astralwerks, & the Island Vibe Family > > > *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* > | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | > | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | > | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | > *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* > | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | > *------------------------------------------------------------------------* so, I WANT TO SEE YOU ALL OUT THERE!! THERES NO REASON TO MISS THIS ONE! COME OUT AND HELP SUPPORT YOUR OWN SCENE AND FRIENDS! dont miss it. for more info email either: sashay@phantom.com caffeine@cyberspace.net hae2@po.cwru.edu im out. :) peace, love, unity, and having fun, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie hae2@po.cwru.edu 412.682.091 /\ 245 Semple St. vrave: sphinx /\ /-|-\\ Pittsburgh, PA 15213 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 02:19:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Paul J Gaydos Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Paul J Gaydos Subject: FLUR In-Reply-To: <199402211627.LAA06037@umd5.umd.edu> > FLUR (FunLoveUnityRespect) > psyched - Say Thanx to the GOD Dave Angel! > Like that so much more....FUN isn't that the focus that we have which makes us unique... I'd say it is more important of a principal because without having fun it is pointless to be unified respectful or for that matter peaceful. paul paul your faithful hedonist and proud of it. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 02:25:06 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JOWLEY@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Minor Infraction crash-landing help wanted well I can reserve my humongus living room that'll fit about 20 so tell me if anyone is interested...btw I am a Wellesley student so it should be pretty convenient:) jess ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 06:44:18 -0500 Reply-To: jsquared Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jerry marvin haws Subject: MOMENTUM directions, update... Xplanation Greetings all, currently there are over 35 netravers who have sent email about coming to momentum... so I am going to massmail another invitation to join us; of course netravers in general are FREE, but then again, this time they don't have to pay. MOMENTUM = lexington ky, this satuday the 26th, 11pm-ish (we may start late) -> ??? dj's = mike huckaby, dieselboy, terry mullan, david hollands, cosmic kickin sound, killer lights, toys all over the place, and VIBE UBER ALLES... anyway... the home infoline is 606.281.4193. but here's how to get here... If coming through nashville: take 65 north and get off going east on the Bluegrass Parkway. It will take you past the airport, into lexington, just follow the signs. When you see New Circle Road, go south. This will be veering off to the right before the bridge... then follow the directions below: if not coming from nashville: Take either I-75 or I-64 to Lexington. They merge just to the north of the city, and you want to exit at 115 (the airport exit, the bluegrass parkway exit... first if coming from cinci or louisville, last if coming from the east or south). You will head towards Lexington. About a mile or so in you will see exits to New Circle Road. You will take the exit on the right before you cross the bridge. This will send you towards the Airport, BG pkway, etc... From New Circle road: You should now be travelling south around the western side of Lexington. This road will take you around Lexington and show you a lot of nothing. You will half-circumnavigate a city in less time than you think possible. (Maybe 8-10 miles on an interstate style road from the north, less from the parkway) The exit you get off at is NICHOLASVILLE road. You will turn left at the exit, which takes you north, back towards the heart of the city. This is a 7 lane road can be somewhat confusing. You will go north, looking to take a left on STONE ROAD. There is a BP station on the left, past stone... if you pass it, you've gone too far. Soon from Stone you will take a left at a light to REGENCY road, it is right past the "Pain Management Center". Then you travel a short distance (maybe .2-.3 miles) and turn left on DENNIS. The space is 150 DENNIS. About the space: It is called the Baseball Diamond. It is in safe, commercial part of town that isn't fully developed yet. It is about 12,000 square feet, and we are going off a bit on decorating it. The time we get access to the space is not quite determined yet, so we may begin after 11. Yes, the dance floor is astroturf... go off, persons. The only anal-retentive thing is not to smoke on the astroturf or fuck it up. But the rest of the space is concrete floor, so it shouldn't be hard. The space is permitted & fire marshall approved, and there are no houses in hearing distances. (You may see some apartment looking buildings- but those are offices, heh heh...) This is a single room, so there will not be a second system, as originally planned, but ARS is converting to a visual performance. It shouldn't be hard to get people to respect the space, and Lexington & the rest of us have been chomping at the bit to do this thing for three bloody months. About the party: this is a non-profit benefit. vibe is the object here. anything you want to bring (lights, toys, stickers) that enhances the vibe, bring it. due to legal tendencies in good old kentucky, I will not be allowing nitrous balloons at the party. there are some cool vendors setting up, some of which are totally new to the scene. Feel free to come join us. Should be a cool time. max pax = maximize peace, monkeyboy... j2 email: voicemail: 606.281.4193 vox: 606.253.1376 l8r ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 09:20:05 -0600 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Trance God Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Trance God Subject: Re: [MW-RAVES:860] Re: Lenny D. I think that Lenny Dee has some mixes on the "Strictly for the Hardcore" Compilation. Is this correct? (I don't have it right beside me at the time..) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 10:34:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jimmy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jimmy Subject: help Hello I need a list of raves for the N.E. Can you help me? Thanks Jimmy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 11:25:45 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Steve Hormell Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Steve Hormell Subject: Transformation Hey all, Just a note to let you know that Josh Wink's Cloud 9 party, "Transformation" originally sceduled for tonight, will not be happening. Josh sends out his apoligies and reminds everyone about Natural Thurs. night. Weather permitting...i think i will be at Natural this week...it's in a _beautiful_ space, with phat music supplied by Josh Wink, King Britt and Lee Jones. I hope to see some of you there. fluff ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:08:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402230718.CAA15946@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > dieselBoy's first appearance of '94 back on the ne-raves scene, and those > of you not lucky enough to live in pittsburgh and hear him spin on a > regular basis DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE MISSING. i have seen and heard many dj's > and i can honestly say that dieselBoy cares about and loves what he > does..he only wants to pump the crowd and in my opinion, hes one of the > best dj's on the scene. (not just limited to breakbeat either) dieselBoy is > gonna EXPLODE in '94....be there and catch him at his first rave of the year. Oooh, I gotta see that. He is gonna explode?! Now I have to go. > you'll be more than pleased with the surprises he'll throw at you as well. > if youre expecting the regular, average breaks dj...guess again...;) Agreed, dieselBoy is one of the best DJs and without a doubt my favorite breaks DJ. I am going to try like hell to do a Kick It (Philly) then Future Groove (LI, NY) weekend. But I need to spread the gas costs around. Who is interested in heading up with me (DC area)? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:25:46 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: [MW-RAVES:860] R... Hey! Yeah, I think he has maybe 1 or 2 tracks on Strictly For the Hardcore. I forget exactly what they're like, tho. Peace DJ Entox ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:33:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , unknown Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: unknown Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <9402231712.AA19930@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Feb 23, 94 12:08 pm > > Agreed, dieselBoy is one of the best DJs and without a doubt my favorite > breaks DJ. I am going to try like hell to do a Kick It (Philly) then > Future Groove (LI, NY) weekend. But I need to spread the gas costs > around. Who is interested in heading up with me (DC area)? > > Dan > I totally agree....I've never seen him DJ but I have heard a tape of his.... INCREDIBLE!!!!!!! ......he's supposed to be spinning at Momentum in Lexington Kt this weekend....at least that's what the flyer says!!! Give me all the info on these two events and your plans......I think I'm gonna be in D.C. that weekend soooooo, if so....I will definitely go!!! This all depends on cash flow...I'll be coming all the way from Indiana, spending 100 dollars on the train!!! so the cheaper the better...especially if N etter can get in for free...I think that we can get into Caffeine for free since Spam is on the net!!! laters NEd! buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:28:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Kristin DiPasquo? Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Kristin DiPasquo? Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402230716.CAA15696@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > in an earlier post, people were complaining that their spring break weekend > raving plans were ruined: > > --- > and on tues, 22 feb, kristin dipasquo wrote: > > that *really* sucks...it was going to be my first rave, and probably the > only one id ever get to go to...all my friends from college were going to > be home, shit. > > well look kids! heres the answer to your problem...go to future groove! > > so, I WANT TO SEE YOU ALL OUT THERE!! THERES NO REASON TO MISS THIS ONE! > COME OUT AND HELP SUPPORT YOUR OWN SCENE AND FRIENDS! dont miss it. for > > peace, love, unity, and having fun, > hossam hey guys.. thanks everyone for your help of restructuring my plans...except theres a few major snags... the good thing about the timewarp 2 was that it was right up by my friend's college and i was going w/ people my mom "trusted".. and being that im only 15...those parental things are stil a big concern... see..my parents have no clue what raves *are*..so if i said that i was just going to a "dance party" up by muhlenburg (my friends college)..then they would probably be ok about it... but if i said i was going to a "dance party" up in *long island*... well i dont think theyd be too cool about that.. hopefully ill be able to get to Kick it! though.. (ps. any parental suggestions, feel free to tell be) posies and cheescake.. kristin(!) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 12:44:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , secret agent mellow Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: secret agent mellow Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402230718.CAA15937@umd5.umd.edu> > >DJ's in the New DJ room: > > Oz-Waltham, Mass (hard trance, hard acid) > > WILL-E-NYC (progressive house, tribal, acid) > > ...plus more TBA Island Underground Quest-ZYX Records > > dieselBoy-Pittsburgh/Momentum/NERaves ...plus more TBA!!! actually, there's going to be other ne-ravers spinning there too. :) or at least one more... :) chris ```'' ______________oOO( O-O )OOo______________ | U | | It rolls! It spins! | | Magic Ball | | It vibrates! It jumps! | | | -----------finger for pgp key------------ || || || || /-, .-\ .-- *| |* --, ~~~~~ ~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:13:35 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , dEcAdENCE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: dEcAdENCE Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: danFREELove "Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!!" (Feb 23, 12:08pm) dan!!!! get me off this crazy thing. i came back from vacation and had 195 messages, i cant handle this. please unsubscribe me, i lost the address of listserve to unsubscribe myself, tel me what it is, or do it, or do something, PLEASE!!! menakd@rpi.edu thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:48:47 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: :) "I feel a happiness impossible in ordinary conditions, unknown to others. I feel a perfect harmony in myself and my surroundings, and this sensation is so strong that for a few moments of such bliss I would give ten years of my life....perhaps my whole life." -Fydor Dostoyevsky Gee, I didn't know they had raving back then in Russia. I'm only kidding, but I thought it was a cool quote. LOVE>>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:37:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402231742.MAA08617@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, danFREELove wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > > > dieselBoy's first appearance of '94 back on the ne-raves scene, and those > > of you not lucky enough to live in pittsburgh and hear him spin on a > > regular basis DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE MISSING. i have seen and heard many dj's > > and i can honestly say that dieselBoy cares about and loves what he > > does..he only wants to pump the crowd and in my opinion, hes one of the > > best dj's on the scene. (not just limited to breakbeat either) dieselBoy is > > gonna EXPLODE in '94....be there and catch him at his first rave of the year. > > Oooh, I gotta see that. He is gonna explode?! Now I have to go. > > > you'll be more than pleased with the surprises he'll throw at you as well. > > if youre expecting the regular, average breaks dj...guess again...;) > > Agreed, dieselBoy is one of the best DJs and without a doubt my favorite > breaks DJ. I am going to try like hell to do a Kick It (Philly) then > Future Groove (LI, NY) weekend. But I need to spread the gas costs > around. Who is interested in heading up with me (DC area)? > > Dan > I am very interested. Email reply, or page me at 202-424-0293 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:38:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402231834.NAA16192@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Kristin DiPasquo? wrote: > On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > > > in an earlier post, people were complaining that their spring break weekend > > raving plans were ruined: > > > > --- > > and on tues, 22 feb, kristin dipasquo wrote: > > > > that *really* sucks...it was going to be my first rave, and probably the > > only one id ever get to go to...all my friends from college were going to > > be home, shit. > > > > well look kids! heres the answer to your problem...go to future groove! > > > > so, I WANT TO SEE YOU ALL OUT THERE!! THERES NO REASON TO MISS THIS ONE! > > COME OUT AND HELP SUPPORT YOUR OWN SCENE AND FRIENDS! dont miss it. for > > > > peace, love, unity, and having fun, > > hossam > > hey guys.. > thanks everyone for your help of restructuring my plans...except theres > a few major snags... > the good thing about the timewarp 2 was that it was right up by my > friend's college and i was going w/ people my mom "trusted".. > and being that im only 15...those parental things are stil a big > concern... > see..my parents have no clue what raves *are*..so if i said that i was > just going to a "dance party" up by muhlenburg (my friends college)..then > they would probably be ok about it... > but if i said i was going to a "dance party" up in *long island*... > well i dont think theyd be too cool about that.. > hopefully ill be able to get to Kick it! though.. > (ps. any parental suggestions, feel free to tell be) > posies and cheescake.. > kristin(!) > Agreed. For those of us living under the spectre of parental domination, road trips can be a problem. Suggests appreciated. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:11:22 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: NJ goings on Someone wrote: >If anyone knows about anything in the central NJ area, please keep me posted. > >thanks! >groovybass@aol.com > If you want info on any New Jersey events, you can call the "Pulse-8 Info Line" at: (908)502-0660. For you and everyone else in the Jersey Shore area, e-mail me your name, U.S.mail address, and phone number and I'll get you added to the Pulse-8 mailing list. The "Pulse-8" people put out a small mailing each week about upcoming club nights and raves in central Jersey. The head guy is from England and when he first came to the states a few years back, used to do raves down in Florida. I think his real job is as a race horse trainer, which has taken him all over the country, but he's in NJ for a while now. There is at least one event per month planned up until this summer, when they will probably be happening weekly. There has also been talk about a rave from dusk to dawn on Memorial Day weekend *ON THE BEACH*. It would be a full scale event with monetary backing by some club owners and local businesses. I'll try to find out more later. There is a new club opening up in Asbury Park that will play house music on Fri and Sat and Thursday will be "Oral" which I *think* I am supposidly one of the resident DJs. I know the guy doing the night, but don't talk to him that much about what his plans are, although the club *will* be open from 11pm to 6am and that Astor Earle and Flash Gorgeous are going to be working the door (don't quote me on that, though). There's no alcohol at the club, but the place is ***PHAT!!!*** It'll be opening on March 10th. An all night club in Jersey? It's hard even for me to believe. Oh yeah, other DJs are from Caffeine and some record store out in Long Island. There is definately a lot of buzz about this club down here. I still can't understand why nothing ever happens in Hoboken, Jersey City, Patterson, etc. Aren't there any ravers there? It seems that it would be a hell of a lot eaiser to find a space for an event there than in Brooklyn. Somebody tell some of those rave promoters to get on the ball and throw an event there... While I'm on the no scene side of this post, it seems that the Digital Deviants have gone dormant for the winter-to busy selling records and going to fire fighting school I guess... Later days... Mars (Marshal Villarosa) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:55:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John Speakman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John Speakman Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! >From: Kristin DiPasquo? > the good thing about the timewarp 2 was that it was right up by my >friend's college and i was going w/ people my mom "trusted".. > and being that im only 15...those parental things are stil a big > concern... > see..my parents have no clue what raves *are*..so if i said that i was > just going to a "dance party" up by muhlenburg (my friends college)..then > they would probably be ok about it... > but if i said i was going to a "dance party" up in *long island*... > well i dont think theyd be too cool about that.. > (ps. any parental suggestions, feel free to tell be) Lie to them! :) John, the little devil on your shoulder ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:53:01 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! > (ps. any parental suggestions, feel free to tell be) > posies and cheescake.. > kristin(!) Hmmm....this SHOULD generate a lot of replies. I hope it does at least. Here are a few to try... 1.) There is a seminar on various dance styles complete with demonstrations that you would like to attend for purely academic reasons. You hope to do your thesis on it. ;-) 2.) The party you were planning to go to, you found out wasn't going to be safe, and even though you REALLY wanted to go, you put aside your wishes and decided to go to a much smaller safer party, in L.I. ;-) 3.) If you can't go you'll simply ExPlOdE!!! Always remember, if you can't win by reason, win by volume!!! Good Luck, Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:51:34 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! >> Agreed, dieselBoy is one of the best DJs and without a doubt my favorite >> breaks DJ. I am going to try like hell to do a Kick It (Philly) then >> Future Groove (LI, NY) weekend. But I need to spread the gas costs >> around. Who is interested in heading up with me (DC area)? >> >> Dan >> >I am very interested. Email reply, or page me at 202-424-0293 Me too...when is it? I'm in Buffalo now but from DC. Might be worth a trip depending when it is... Apocalypse /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ { "And Physics?" } / \_______________/ __MMMMM__ /(O O)\ ===============oOO==( )==OOo============================================= [~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~] [ Joseph M. Harre | "God is like a big | HARREJ@CCMAC.CANISIUS.EDU ] [ Canisius College | shiny man" | HARREJ@DELPHI.COM ] [ Buffalo, NY | Rel. Studies Prof | HARREJ@WEHLE.CANISIUS.EDU ] [------------------------------------------------------------------------] [ VM 800-864-9999, ext. 80029 / FAX 202-298-8210 / Phone 716-881-5719 ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 16:51:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "SHALAKO (technokachina)" Subject: Re: P.S.A. In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 19 Feb 94 02:20:52 -1100. <9402190724.AA19535@MIT.EDU> >PS my original remark about Dante was provoked by this really awful >djing performance he had last April at Grin. anyway, sorry for subjecting >a decent guy to stale ire. !!! Grin was one of his BEST sets ever!!!! thoroughly confused as to what (if anything) makes krieg zimmerman feel warm and fuzzy... krieg, maybe you should try...say...the death&armegeddon thrash-rock scene...if one exists... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 17:24:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Wazzup! Hey folks..... I'm new to this list but i figured it was about time that i joined, seeing as how i go to school here in central ny and eavesdropping on DCRaves (hometown list) was just making me sick with ravelust...i figure NERaves will get me into closer doors... Anywayzz...Surprise! Surprise! It seems little 'ol Ithaca,NY has geared up into action and will now be the site of cool events to come...check this out... *********** SATURDAY, FEB. 26 ipac and thrombomatic productions present..... _TEMPTRONIC FAITH_ spinning techno, trance, house, and breakbeat Music by ADAM X (Brooklyn) HEATHER HEART (Under One Sky) SOUL SLINGER (Liquid Sky Vibe) Brian Walters (Wax Trax Records) Wilhelm (Sunshine/Exit 23) R.M. (Syracuse) All ages, Acid Jazz Bar(21+), Smart Bar, 10PM til ????, $8 at door STATE THEATRE 109 W. State St. Downtown, Ithaca Bus Info & Directions call 607 273-2781 *********** how 'bout that? well...to tell the truth, it should be pretty good but i think i got some ideas for the guys running it that should make it X(tra)FLUR. the scene here is pretty new, fresh, and hassle-free and definitely worth checkin out if you're nearby. they're expecting around 1000+ people in this pretty cool setup theatre which is probably pretty similar to the WIGGLE setup down at UVA. so if you feel like breakin' with AdamX (i hope he's playing some Large breaks!) then swing by.....email me for more info or a place to stay..... -Acid Al loco for loco puffs cyberpuppies for sale ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 17:44:48 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: PEPPERMINT@DELPHI.COM Subject: Re: [MW-RAVES:860] Re: Lenny D. lenny does have i think two mixes on this cd, check it i out, it is pretty rad! peaz. out, out...peppermint patty ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 17:47:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! Hey it's Matt. I am definitely gonna go to KickIt plus the after party. I and 1/2 friends need a ride to FUTURE GROOVE from Philly. I can provide some crash space (actually in a burb of Philly) to soemone who can give us a ride to and from FUTURE GROOVE. We have no problem with splittin gas costs etc. Maybe we can do a pre-party for KickIT..... anyway, please mail me back at munterma@haverford.edu or call 215-645-8331 for response to either of these wondrous proposals..... see ya, Love, Matt ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 16:05:42 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "snufflufugus." Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "snufflufugus." Organization: from SUNY College at Buffalo, NY 14222 Subject: SUBSCRIBE CAL. Please SUB CALENDER me..... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 18:30:58 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Mel-zo-rama Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Mel-zo-rama Subject: Taking! Taking HOM entries for both lists! Please get your plans for March 26th in early..sicne two semi-big events are going on and a lot of people will be looking for rides.... Melzie aka living as Prufrock's Psychologist ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:48:37 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , SQ0326@SHIP.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Lauren Jones Subject: Re: [MW-RAVES:860] Re: Lenny D. Correct you are, my friend. SeAn ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 19:23:27 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tikki Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tikki Organization: New and Improved Pupation Subject: Re: music styles yo taylor, what's up.. been meaning to tell you that our station finally got in Instinct's stuff.. prototype 909, and human mesh hyline... I really really really like the h.m.h. stuff especially the song you dedicated to tina. real real good and nice fish on the front too. make sure we keep getting it. much love, hades (tasha) WESU Middletown, CT ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 19:27:48 LCL Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tikki Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tikki Organization: New and Improved Pupation Subject: Re: music styles ARGH, sorry y'all but why is the reply line set to NE-Raves???? grrrrrr sorry sorry sorry. (it didn't used to be like this, or am i on drugs.) sigh. -tasha ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 20:18:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Petelis Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Petelis Subject: Taking! In-Reply-To: <199402232337.SAA00925@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu> I'am going to Red w/friends from NYC and Buffalo. I'm leaving from RI by bus or car, if you need ride from RIU e-mail me to confirm(not my car). Also possible crash place in Boston Northeastern U.. PEACE OUT! SEUSS:) petelis@eerie.acsu.cc.buffalo.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 21:51:39 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: Minor Infraction crash-landing help wanted > If you live along my locus of travel :) ie. Long Island, NYC metro, >southern CT etc. etc. and need a ride up, leave me mail at this address: >rquazi@ccvm.sunysb.edu. I can offer two spaces, three if you don't mind >squeezing (though a 4 or 5 hour ride squashed in the back of a 2-door ain't >really my idea of travelling in style, you know :) hey rishad, im definatly interested in heading up there, if ya got the room. what is the date of this party anyway? ive been so busy lately, i havent had much time to read any of this, i think youve been in the same situation... the fiend --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:31:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Adam Darby Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Adam Darby Subject: Speed Limit 140 bpm Does anyone know when the next one is coming out? So far, I have been mostly pleased with the ones we have now... _______________________________________________________________________________ _Adam Darby ---- | ----- ----- \\ "Just when you least expect it, | / / / / / just what you least expect." | / / \ / / Pet Shop Boys - Love comes quickly | / / \ / "I'll take your brain to another | / / / dimension - pay close attention." | / / Prodigy - Out of Space | Rave on! | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 23:38:29 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH and Floyd fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH and Floyd fan Subject: Re: Speed Limit 140 bpm In-Reply-To: <199402240433.XAA22906@umd5.umd.edu> from "Adam Darby" at Feb 23, 94 11:31:11 pm X-Rush Quote: "He's not concerned with yesterday. He knows constant change is here today. He's noble enough to know what's right. But weak enough not to choose it. He's wise enough to win the world. But fool enough to lose it." -RUSH, 'New World Man' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 682 > > Does anyone know when the next one is coming out? So far, I have been > mostly pleased with the ones we have now... > I loved v1, but i personally cannot stand v2. Ick!! Makes me cringe. Anyway...yeah, when's the new one coming out? -- ============================================================================== || Matthew Jukins || "Begin the day with a friendly voice; a companion|| || mpj1@kepler.unh.edu || unobtrusive- plays that song that's so elusive, || || mpj1@christa.unh.edu || and the magic music makes your morning mood." || ||======================|| -RUSH, "Spirit of Radio" || ||==================================================|| ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 01:51:34 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: Speed Limit 140 bpm In-Reply-To: <9402240446.AA13248@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Adam Darby" at Feb 23, 94 11:31 pm Adam Darby said: > > Does anyone know when the next one is coming out? So far, I have been > mostly pleased with the ones we have now... > > _______________________________________________________________________________ Speed Limit 140 BPM vol.4 - Breaking the Sound Barrier will be coming out ver soon 9 i can hardly wait:) some information from the Moonshine press release: Speed Limit Four was compiled and mixed by top UK hardcore DJ Darren Jay and Stephen Levy who compiled the first three Speed Limits. Speed Limit 4 represents what is currently happening in the UK hardcore underground. Since the beginning of 1994, there has been a resurgance of dark experimental breakbeat but now it is fused with the melodic influences from the current ambient and trance movements. (deleted text) Tracks included from Omni Trio, Cloud 9 , and Metalheads together with the latest floorburners such as Top Buzz "Living in Darkness" which was the first hardcore track to go top 40 in the UK and "Wake Up" by Bay B Kane. With the continuing success of previous Speed Limit compilations, a huge and continuously expanding fan base proves the hardcore sound of London will never die.(deleted text) Volume Four documents the very best in today's ever evolving UK hardcore trends. thats about it. i personally like still very much the piano-dub i guess it is called sub-genere of the music from a few summers back and really haven't heard much of the new trends so im looking forward to it. peace y'all _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ _______________________________ _ __ ___feel the rhythm smooth and mellow____ ___ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ ___ ____ _____ ______ __________________ doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 00:57:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402232028.PAA04375@umd5.umd.edu> Day Tripper writes: > Agreed. For those of us living under the spectre of parental domination, > road trips can be a problem. Suggests appreciated. Divorce your parents on the grounds of irreconcilable differences :-) No, actually you may find that just telling your parents it's just an all-ages, no alcohol dance party works. I dunno. luckily I didn't get involved until i was out of high school. - dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 02:29:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Christina M Marinaccio Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Christina M Marinaccio Subject: rescue me i need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i am looking for a ride to nj/nyc. if there is anyone from the pittsburgh area going on in NYC or northern NJ this weekend (Feb 25-28, fri-mon), and would like to have some company, could you please write me and let me know. peace and hair grease christina ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 00:21:14 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , plasma1000 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: plasma1000@AOL.COM Subject: Pleasuredome Hi - If Kenny Eng in Pittsburgh reads this message.. Kenny, could you please send your e-mail address to Plasma1000@aol.com. Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 08:19:45 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: Wazzup! wazzup alex!, Being at Ithaca College I thought I'd post my presence. We have a few people here who LOVE to rave. Maybe we can all get together. These regular happenings at State Street Theatre have been said to be good. email me direct: dlapuma1@ithaca.ithaca.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 10:39:05 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: Taking! In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 23 Feb 1994 18:30:58 -0500 from Hey, This is to go on the HOM. I and my girlfriend are going to be needing a ride to FUTURE GROOVE in LI on March 12. We're in Providence, so anyone leaving from the Providence or Boston area that can pick us up will be thanked with gas and toll money, as well as all that other stuff we can thank you with. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 11:20:28 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: Speed Limit 140 bpm In-Reply-To: <199402240504.AAA26426@umd5.umd.edu> On Wed, 23 Feb 1994, RUSH and Floyd fan wrote: > > Does anyone know when the next one is coming out? So far, I have been > > mostly pleased with the ones we have now... > > > I loved v1, but i personally cannot stand v2. Ick!! Makes me > cringe. Anyway...yeah, when's the new one coming out? It is already out and has been for some time. It's called Speed Limit 140+ BPM III - The Joint. Good name because it unlike the other 2 Speed Limits is a joint CD of Suburban Base Records and Moving Shadow records. If you like jungle this is for you. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 11:28:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: Sorry folks, NO NEt-Gathering In-Reply-To: soundz@MIT.EDU "Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994" (Feb 23, 3:52pm) On Feb 23, 3:52pm, soundz@MIT.EDU wrote: > Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 > > I just heard from casper that net gathering may not be happening. > Is there any truth to this? > > Jimmy >-- End of excerpt from soundz@MIT.EDU Unfortunately, yes :( The space has fallen through. I found out Tuesday night, spent yesterday frantically scrambling for a space and today (in fact, with this very message) I will post an explanation to NE-Raves. There is still a *sliver* of hope, as I just was able to contact a Tae Kwon Do gym this morning. But they asked me "this isn't one of those `rage' parties, is it?" I told them no, and had to reassure them that there would be no alcohol or drugs there (a promise I am not sure I can keep). I figure if we just keep people from smoking, anything else can be kept under our hats, but I'm not sure how advisable that policy is. This space is our last hope. So, barring a miracle, the NEt gathering won't happen. This is what happened with the space: Earlier in the month, Jigsaw spoke to his roomate (the one who's name is on the lease, etc) about having the party at their apartment. He said "Fine, as long as I don't have to be involved." But, since then, things have gotten hairy with their landlord and they are afraid they might be sued for leaving before their term is up. So they don't want to do anything to aggravate the landlord. Once I found this out (the night before last), I tried a couple of other possibilities, including joining up with another potential party. But nothing has panned out. So, our last chance is this Tae Kwon Do gym (which they also told me, incidentally, has "indoor/outdoor carpeting" -- probably not good for dancing :-( ). I'm so sorry that I got people's hopes up. I put a lot of time and effort into this (as my grades reveal :-( ) And if there was anything I could do, I would do it. I hope this gets out to everyone in time to change your plans (if, indeed, you were planning on coming) and hopefully someone else's plans will pan out in the future. I don't think that I can plan anything else in the near future cause my grades have gone down the tubes and I'll need the rest of the semester to get them up to par. Life sucks (sorry to be such a downer). I'm as sorry as anyone can be about this. :-( If anyone would like to try another one, I'll help in any way I can. peace, y'all -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:05:44 AST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , OLIVER N Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: <24FEB94.14076400.0031.MUSIC@UNB.CA> From: OLIVER N No wonder i have not been getting any mail from the list! you guys changed the address when i wasn't looking! Can i get back on? Please? Pretty please with sugar on top? ciao, dj nonsense p.s. hope you got my message re: Rhythmic Dissonance rave in Halifax on March 5th. with 7 djs and 6 live acts, it should be pretty kick ass. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 12:59:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! In-Reply-To: <199402240717.CAA02141@umd5.umd.edu> On Thu, 24 Feb 1994, Dan Nicholson wrote: > Day Tripper writes: > > > Agreed. For those of us living under the spectre of parental domination, > > road trips can be a problem. Suggests appreciated. > > Divorce your parents on the grounds of irreconcilable differences :-) > > No, actually you may find that just telling your parents it's just an > all-ages, no alcohol dance party works. I dunno. luckily I didn't get > involved until i was out of high school. > Heh. Yep, I'm thinking truth is going to be the best road... We'll see. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 13:52:10 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Robert N. Campanell" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Robert N. Campanell" Subject: "Cyberia" Program Guide, Feb 1994 Cyberia Episode #13, Feburary 1994 This month's episode features a couple of computer animated cartoons, and an art video. The computer animated music video comes from Gemini 6 and Comic Baby. Call your college TV station to find out when they will be showing "Cyberia" and the rest of the U Network programming for this month. C O M P U T E R A N I M A T I O N "Strangeness in the Night" Ted Pratt Rochester Institute of Technology This work that sheds new insights surrounding the mystery of the laundry monster. If you've ever wondered why you return from the laundrymat with mismatched socks, you are about the witness the shccking truth! "Seokgulam" Bongsung Bac School of Visual Arts Buddist chants encompass religious images and the power of the mind's spirit. "Determin Vermin" Various Students Ringling School of Art Explaination about the phenonoma of food abductions. It uncovers the secret operations of low-life, intestinal beings. M U S I C V I D E O "Skysouring" Gemini 6 >From the video compilation: "X-Mix-1: The MFS Trip" Ambient trance featuring humanoid images runnning , jumping, and free-falling, fractal backgrounds, 3-D spinning globe objects. Heaven's Tears Cosmic Baby >From the video compilation: "X-Mix-1: The MFS Trip" Trance featuring fast color cycling patterns with 3-D objects flying in and out of view. 2-D cavity swirls. Bouncing 3-D topography. PLEASE NOTE: "Cyberia" is broadcast only. No tapes are available for sale. A list of U Network affiliates is available via anonymous ftp on techno.stanford.edu. get /pub/raves/media/television/CyberiaTVstations ---------------------------------------------------------------- | "C Y B E R I A" | | Experience Reality in a Virtual World | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |Robert Campanell |Explicit | |Producer, "Cyberia" |2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW | |George Washington University |Suite 430 | |Internet: robcamp@seas.gwu.edu |Washington, DC 20006 | ---------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:27:21 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Flower cancelled Cybertribe newsbrief: "Flower," an evnet that was being planned by the Fluid Possee for Thursday, March 3rd in Long Island, has been cancelled. This information came off Kort & Greg's Info Line. The Flower Info line was (212)629-1960 Please remove it from the ROM Inhuman. Peace to a new generation, Mars (Marshal Hamilton) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:55:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Subject: can you... In-Reply-To: <199402230500.AAA06372@umd5.umd.edu> can you please susubscribe me thanks jennifer smeddy jenn-bug ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 15:34:31 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Pulse-8 Cybertribe, Those of you that are planning on coming to Pulse-8 this coming Wednesday, e-mail me your name so that I can put you on the reduced admission list. Remember, we're only using each spot once, and the first one we have lined up is Phat! If you're a DJ, contact me if you'd like to spin at future parties. For directions, call the Pulse-8 info line: (908)502-0660 If you're interested in promoting for upcoming parties, send me email or call the info line and leave your name and number and we'll get back to you. We have special guest DJs in store for Wednesday too!!! So, come and show your support for an event thrown by a brother net-raver! Peace kids, Mars(Marshal Hamilton) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:44:16 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , djentox Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Skreem Time! Hey all! Well, It's almost printing time for the Skreem! First of all, If anybody out there wants to e-mail me an article quick.. e-mail it soon (as in very soon) because I'll be starting to print up copies by next week. If you want to get a copy of the Skreem, here's what you do; I can't offer it for free this time because I was beginning to lose my money.. all I ask is that you pay postage. Send a self-addressed stamped envelope with either a 53 cent stamp or 2X29 cent stamps to: The Skreem PO Box 186 Hampton, NH 03842-0002 Thanx to everyone on the net!!!!! Peace! DJ Entox (If anybody would like to have some copies to distribute at raves or in their area.. please e-mail me and I'll see what I can do!) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:54:25 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: whatever... Well I just got the AphexTwin "ON" maxi single and I like it... but there are two things I'd like to bring up. Once again, does anyone know how much and what time RED will be? I really want to go to this... and the phone number for information has been disconnected, by the way. Um... the other thing. I was looking for the latest HYPNO magazine (which is taking forever to come out but it's worth it... [previously "Sin International Magazine"]) when I spied the words "Monsters of Techno" on the cover of SPIN magazine. Well I read it right there in the newstand and it wasn't bad... it basically gave a little itty bitty account of what it's like to be on tour with Moby, Vapourspace, Orbital, and Aphex Twin. Check out the cool color photos, I just might get the mag for the pinups. Orbital wears these funky flashlight-glasses... I like funky hats. I saw these cool ones made of fluffy posh stuff with spikes, and a cool fluffy top hat with stripes of blue and purple and they're so neat I want them..................... I love the Orb! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 16:53:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: 11 March 1994 What's going on in Wellesley MA on this date? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 17:56:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: drelb's ranting and raving Hm... I am currently living with my parents, and I have the same problems as probably every other underage dancer on this list. The best excuse I can think of is "I'm going to an all-nite dance party. It's all-ages so they legally can't serve alcohol." I know this isn't true, but it probably will work. That's what I'm going to have to use to go to RED. By the time BIRTH comes around in June (it sounded promising... check latest rave-o-matic) I'll be 18 and hopefully my parents won't do anything. If indeed RED is in Fitchburg, I live only about thirty miles away from there. It would be easy for me to try to arrange something to do before the show if anyone has any ideas... Fitchburg isn't exactly a "happenin' place." If the weather's nice we can do something outside, and if all of you aren't too mature for a little Manhunt, we could play on the campus of Fitchburg State University... or anything that anyone feels like doing. A good point was brought up that RED is almost the only event on the rave-o-matic that doesn't have anything more than a phone number or two. I tried calling that number and it was temporarily disconnected. If someone else has called them and gotten through, please post any information that was given. Thanks. Anyone can e-mail me, especially if you are going to the RED event... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 18:35:02 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jujubee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jujubee Subject: Re: Sorry folks, NO NEt-Gathering In-Reply-To: "Sam, The Butcher" "Sorry folks, NO NEt-Gathering" (Feb 24, 11:28am) my dear fellow ne-ravers: i am deeply sorry for not be able to provide a space for the net gathering as nate explained. The weather has gone bad as well, may be when spring comes we will plan something again. but do go to the intergalatic funk party in saratoga springs. my landlord is mafia so i dont really want to fuck things up. altho the party wont happen ,i would like to thank nate for the effort he put into it. jigsaw (raving bull) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:16:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Scott D Isaacson Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Scott D Isaacson Subject: Re: whatever... In-Reply-To: <199402242246.RAA17808@terminus-est.acsu.buffalo.edu>; from "@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU:NE-RAVES@UMDD.BITNET" at Feb 24, 94 4:54 pm Umm. . .about the latest HYPNO mag. I think it's out. It has an interview with the "Genitorturers", some metal band that puts on an S & M show at all their concerts. They also interview Young American Primitive and reviewed a couple new techno CDs. I discovered this mag a couple of weeks ago, so it's gotta be coming out in your area soon. Also, when's Cornell's Spring Break? I'm dying to see what this new scene is like down there, but I wouldn't be able to make it this weekend. I'm in the real world now, so time flows differently for me. IN other words, my time is no longer my own. But next weekend. . . that's another story, providing some of you will be there. peace and perennials, LittleBoy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:01:27 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Re: Sorry folks, NO NEt-Gathering In-Reply-To: <01H99JSMGZ0Y9EEQ9Z@ccmail.sunysb.edu> cheerup nate :) you tried and that's what counts - take care and hope to see you at Red, okay? peace, FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:07:22 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Dont worry.....here comes FUTURE GROOVE!! Heh. Yep, I'm thinking truth is going to be the best road... We'll see. ****** Well, i'd be real careful with telling the truth. You might expect to be rewarded for it, but.....sometimes it doesn't work out that way. You might want to tell just *some* of the truth :) --dan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:45:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: halleluJAH!!! Sorry to post this, but I can't contain my joy!! My experiment seems to be finally working!!! I can have a life again!!!! I can go raving again and smile again and fall asleep without worrying about data!!! i needed to get that out, since no one is in the building to hear me jump up and down with joy :) Peace, at last :) Terence ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:45:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Alex Agranov Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Alex Agranov Subject: Re: whatever... In-Reply-To: <9402250026.AA17201@helios.tn.cornell.edu>; from "Scott D Isaacson" at Feb 24, 94 7:16 pm > Also, when's Cornell's Spring Break? I'm dying to see what this new scene > is like down there, but I wouldn't be able to make it this weekend. > I'm in the real world now, so time flows differently for me. IN other > words, my time is no longer my own. But next weekend. . . that's > another story, providing some of you will be there. > > peace and perennials, > LittleBoy > I don't understand what cornell's spring break has to do with anything but if you want to know it's march 19 - march 26. yeah...it's a shame you can't make it this weekend since it should be pretty damn good. Like i said before, the spot they have is pretty cool: it's a theatre with a dance area on the smallish side between the first row of seats and the screen but it's actually just big enough (note for future: possible extra space behind the screen = more room and backwards visuals?). They got all the trimmings this time including Intellibeams, Data Flashes, smart bar, and what sounds like a cool spot to chill out to some acid jazz. The stuff they have on regular saturdays (called Sunshine) isn't worth the trip from Buffalo (unless you're really achin), but if they keep the lights and the local dj's practice a little more, for $2....well...it's your call. Either way don't worry, apparently they're going to be trying to throw events like the upcoming one about once a month (calling all interested dj's....dieselBoy,1.8.7.,Lenny... ). But that's for another time.... "all over a ho'" -a al someone's gotta sample sanford & son..... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:51:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Pak Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Pak Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 In-Reply-To: <199402220833.DAA03712@umd5.umd.edu> hey JIM... what was your response for your offer to spin? dIESLEBOY is spinning there too... I've been there (CAFFEINE).. pretty small.. -ed ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 20:55:55 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Re: halleluJAH!!! In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 24 Feb 1994 19:45:08 EST from cool-o :) hope to catch you soon, you raving looney :) peace and a good night's sleep to ya! - FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 22:10:38 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 In-Reply-To: <199402250213.VAA02619@umd5.umd.edu> To clear up any confusion about future groove... | ÿ ÿ ÿ SÿV7 ÿ *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 22:26:37 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ashley Goebel Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ashley Goebel Organization: [MindVox] / Phantom Access Technologies / (+1 800-MindVox) Subject: Re: FUTURE GROOVE-March 12, 1994 In-Reply-To: <199402250213.VAA02619@umd5.umd.edu> Sorry about the last post....line noise problem...anyways to clear up any confusion about FUTURE GROOVE...it is not a Caffeine event...Even though I am a Caffeine promoter, I have decide to throw this rave without their help. The event is going to be presented by the Island Vibe Crew, and Astralwerks. The event will not be held at Caffeine neither, it will be held at a 38,000 commercial/industrial building. JUst though I'd clear that all up... :) ...chris (spam) *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | SPAM the Caffeine Boy of the | Snail-mail: 14 Sloan Drive | | Island Vibe Network & | Ronkonkoma, NY 11779 | | the Caffeine Crew | VibeLine (Rave Info): 516-476-2520 | *------------------------------*-----------------------------------------* | E-mail: sashay@phantom.com OR caffeine@cyberspace.net | *------------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 00:27:19 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Amnon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Amnon Subject: NE-raves address Could someone pLEASE send me the address and instructions on how to subscribe to the list??? I lost it a long time ago and I have a friend who's looking for it. I'd be ever so grateful. -amnon _____ |\ | __ __ ____ (_____ | \ | (__) (__) |____) | | _____) | \| | |____| | | ________________________________________| GOD OF GROOVE AND HERO OF THE HAPPYPEOPLE ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 17:36:04 -0400 Reply-To: haladjia@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: HALADJIA@BCVMS.BC.EDU Subject: Re: whatever... hey...=) check out saint ettienne's sinlgle with (um, i forgot), i think hobart paving, and you're in a bad way...there's two remixes by the aphex twin that are purty phat. i was surprised to hear it on this single, but i'm glad i have em...it's an import on heavenly (again i may be wrong)...does anyonw know where i can order obscure orb tracks? don't know specifics, but anything would be cool....=) also...i'm getting ready to try out "cloud 9" which is supposedly a natural drug that's supposed to be like *e*...has anyone tried it? is it worth the money? i am eager to know....=) (i'll see how it is saturday...) later slurps, hyrar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 02:02:20 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DE ARDICLE POSEUR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DE ARDICLE POSEUR Subject: back again. okay shannon, since my bite if conscience (consciousness) did not appease you... i have no DESIRE to be in a death ROKROKROKROKROKROK scen recall my post several months ago, (whic again i retreated from) which talked about whiteman'sdis-ease fuck this.im sick of my retreats, my fallbacks, my attempts to explain my nature: Krieg is not an angry NIN sort of shit stereotype cut his hair in a mohawk-pony tail kind of guy. Krieg just has a definite aggressive-violent streak. Does tthis mean I am never kind, or nice, or feeling or sensitive? I never meant to deny these virtues of type... i meant to say, my post was a thunderbolt aimed at the soft effete belly of "rave philosophy" which is so fat and unarmed that it denies the other side. what is it of raves, if they are all yin and no yang? what becomes of a "scene" which denies half of life? Is there never despair, pain, evil, lust greed hate selfish anti-christian anti-liberal (one and the same without a slaughtered God) in anyone? I hated the scene turning into a) a HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY thing and b) becoming a trite ego-display show... SHANNON: FUCK OFF FOR SAYING I WANT SOME ARMAGEDDON HATEROK SCENE. the point: why does everyone (exccept the truly herdlike) grow tired of this scene? why does its allure end? because it signifies half of existence. when first entered it is a bacchanalian feast, pleasure orgy of physicality and then eventually drugs... turning Euripidean, hopeless "let us feast while we live"eventual decay, sad, loss, entopy WHY does this become: this fest is not able to continue under the sway of "rave philosophy" EFFETE and HORRIBLE: life-denying. what is the day without the night? what is the beginning without its end? is a sentence magnificent if it does not finish? does not a story bring itself to a close? is not life ever shadowed with death? DOES NOT "RAVE PHILOSOPHY" corrode by its inability to realise an end? "ease after toyle port after stormie seas death after warre sleep after life doth greatly please"?!? i am not being fatalist, or horrible (OR POSTMODERN as Dawn DeLuca pretentiously weakly protested, what does a sty;e of paint- ing have to do with philosophy Dawn anyway hm?) or casting a shadow upon a light place, i do not rip up the roots of the tree, disperse tthe clouds deny the rain!! i rather wish to point, if the beauty of this cycle, of this attempt to balance is lost, it removes the beauty from our existence!!! i wish to make a point and rejuvenate. if WE do not value what WE hold most dear, then WE have denied ourselves the right to choose it as such, as valuable. Was not Man the first creator? Did not Man, then create the Creator, to prove reason? "The great Problem-Solver" solved his problem of existence proved his reason, gave his "reason" the food on which to gnaw, which proved existence possible, necessary, inevitable. "with their virtue they want to scratch out the eyes of their enimies, and tthey exalt themselves only to humble others." :"Alas, the time is coming when man will no longer give birth to a star. Alas, the time of the most despicable man is coming, he that is no longer able to despise himself. Behold, I show you the last man." "`What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?' thus asks the last man, and he blinks. "The earth has become small, an on it hops the last man, who makes everything small. His race is as ineradicable as the flea-beetle; the last man lives longest. "`We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink. They have left the regions where it was hard to live, for one needs warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him, for one needs warmth. "Becoming sick and harboring suspicion are sinful to them: one proceeds carefully. A fool, whoever stumbles over stones or human beings! A little poison now and then: that makes for agreeable dreams. And much poison in the end, for an agreeable death. "One still works, for work is a form of entertainment. But one is careful lest the entertainment be too harrowing. One no longer becomes poor or rich: both require too much exertion. Who still wants to rule? Who obey? Both require too much exertion. "No shepherd an one herd! Everybody wants the same, everybody is the same: whoever feels different goes voluntarily intto a madhouse. "`Formerly, all the world was mad,' say the most refined, and they blink. "One is clever and knows everything that has ever happened: so there is no end of derision. One still quarrels, but one is still reconciled--else it might spoil the digestion. "One had one's little pleasure for the day and one's little pleasure for the night: but one has a regard for health. "`We have invented happiness,' say the last men, and they blink." Can I say any better with my own words? My pace myself in the well-worn footfalls placed before me, for fear of repeating what has already been echoed off a thousand cavern-walls in humanity's existence. I don't decry playfulness, i dont demand seriousness, i simply demand an immediacy and an alertness that is ultra-natural and simple and divine! in the purest sense of human-animal. Even now, whatever the Fukuyamas of our day believe, stirring beyond the bounds of our happy civilization that will never need to change ever, our impoverished imagination not seeing a new dawn after our setting sun, shall arise that next epoch. Even now, we see in the horrors of ravages which Africa is convulsing in: can we not see the next epoch there? Will finally a person come forth, and esteem as has been? And place himself on the right, and sweep all before him? Such as us decadents? Our pleasure has become trite. Let our pleasures acccompany pains! Let us realise the true depths of our existence! Let us redden ourselves. Of course, no one need listen to me. I am happy, and i drink and eat and sleep and fight and fuck and am simple and silly and love it because its just sort of a lot of fun. toodles, Krieg Zimmerman (War Carpenter) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 03:53:34 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: DE ARDICLE POSEUR "back again." (Feb 25, 2:04am) Well, Krieg, what you say has merit. Our lives can't be purely happiness and flowers. I know people who act like it is, and they are only fun for so long. In essence, *yes* our scene is shallow. It only pertains to one aspect of a full life and that is celebration. It does not involve work (except for those behind the scenes). Nor does it (for the most part) involve hatred, war, ambition, conquest, learning or reflection. I would say that those people who have nothing in their lives but raves *are* shallow. Fortunately, noone on this list seems to live an empty life, moving from rave to rave, party to party. I think we all have work, friends, hopes, dreams and ambitions outside of our semi-regular orgies of the spirit (and the flesh). I, personally, have enough stress, hardship and ambition in my "other" life that it is a welcome vacation when I can throw off the trappings of my mild-mannered alter-ego ("Shoe-shine boy") to become RAVEMASTER NATE (or however you want to describe this other person). At my first rave, I went alone. I knew noone there and I figured I would probably never see most of the people there ever again. SUCH LIBERATION!! I could shed my everyday identity and make as big a goof of myself as I felt like, without fear of embarrassment or recrimination. Before I raved I had never felt comfortable dancing, because I was always afraid that I couldn't dance; that my friends (with whom I was partying) would laugh at me or whatever. At raves it didn't matter, all I was there for was to have a good time *for* *me*! I didn't care how I looked to others. If it felt good, I did it. I found the freedom to lose my ego, my *self*, in the multitude of loonatic ravers. THIS TO ME IS "RAVE" And if you want someone of Nietzschean influence to back this up, read _Steppenwolf_ by Hermann Hesse. The party preceding the Steppenwolf's final drug induced revelation is an almost perfect description of the abandon that raves bring out in me. Yes, I have lost some of that feeling, I once again am beginning to feel self-concious and inhibited at parties. But the irony is, I lost it my making deeper connections with my fellow ravers. Had other ravers continued to be nameless, without identity or connection, I would still be able to lose my own identity and go wild in the ritual outporing of joy and energy that raves (to me) are about. Anyway, I recognize that everyone's experience at a rave (as in real life) is different; that everyone brings a different concept and different hopes, dreams and experiences to a rave. So don't think that I don't consider your point valid, Krieg. Just trying to add my $.02 to the discussion. peace (and war and hate and love and wisdom -- everything you want for your life) -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 08:34:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: Sorry folks, NO NEt-Gathering it's ok nate, I'm sure everyone understands. Hows about we all still come and beat the shit out of that roomate? (just kidding) -dave ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 08:49:37 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DLAPUMA1@ITHACA.BITNET Subject: Re: whatever... ithaca's spring break is mar 4-14. If you can make it down the weekend after there's gonna be a "college type" party at my house that sat. Then we can hop down to the rave. cool? -dave ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 11:29:23 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , ebh@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <199402250728.CAA05285@umd5.umd.edu> from "DE ARDICLE POSEUR" at Feb 25, 94 02:02:20 am "Hello Kitty" 'nuff said. -Ed ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:05:17 GMT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan English Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan English Subject: Re: back again. i disagree, again. i agree, that good and fun are meaningless without evil and un-fun, but: the cold cruel worl is evil and un-fun. reality bites. raves are fun and good and nice (or at least they used to be). they are the ying to the yang, or the vica to the versa, or the greg top the marsha. so thats what i say. love, -camper. * stay groovy. camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 12:29:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Info please... Ummmm.. I wasn't sure if I should post this here but I don't follow alt.drug all that much.. I have a few questions about E.. If anyone out there is an expert could you please send me E-Mail.. Thanks ckozup@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 12:33:09 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , jimmy Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: jimmy Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:05:17 GMT from is there anyone out there hitting the rave in Washington DC next month have car and cash jimmy f ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 12:18:42 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "D.J.MARS" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "D.J.MARS" Subject: Re: :) > "I feel a happiness impossible in ordinary conditions, > unknown to others. I feel a perfect harmony in myself > and my surroundings, and this sensation is so strong > that for a few moments of such bliss I would give ten > years of my life....perhaps my whole life." > > -Fydor Dostoyevsky > > Gee, I didn't know they had raving back then in Russia. I'm only > kidding, but I thought it was a cool quote. > LOVE>>>>DAWN > Jennifer, I think you should put this quote in the magazine... Marshal ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:33:36 EDT Reply-To: HARREJ%cc_mac@canisius.bitnet Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Apocalypse Organization: Canisius College Subject: Re: back again. > is there anyone out there hitting the rave in Washington DC next month > have car and cash > jimmy f What rave and when? Might have to join in... 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In-Reply-To: <9402251749.AA16501@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>; from "jimmy" at Feb 25, 94 12:33 pm > > is there anyone out there hitting the rave in Washington DC next month > > have car and cash > > jimmy f > What rave next month...there's a few aren't there???? NEd! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 13:47:42 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: drelb's ranting and raving In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 24 Feb 1994 17:56:29 EST when I lived with my parents i just told them i was sleeping over a friend's house. it always worked. LOVE>>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 13:45:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Day Tripper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Day Tripper Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <199402251759.MAA00237@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 25 Feb 1994, jimmy wrote: > is there anyone out there hitting the rave in Washington DC next month > > have car and cash > > jimmy f > Which one? The only one I thought was coming up in the near future was Pleasure Dome 4/9/94????? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:05:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Wei-En Chang Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Wei-En Chang Subject: red Hi folks. I got a peep at the RED flyer last nite and it looks phat; 4 full color pages, kinda like a little book. Darren Emerson (Underworld) and Tin Tin are on it, they're the only DJs that aren't from the Northeast US. Location will be same spot as Yellow in Fitchburg on March 26. Yay... First 1000 flyers arriving in Boston today, look for 'em! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:56:37 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 02:02:20 -0500 mm mm< ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:15:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 02:02:20 -0500 Sorry about that. I still have more to say. So, if the rave is white, it leaves our bellies soft and unprotected because we choose not to accept our darker sides. Don't you think that it is rather a large assumption to think that just because some of us are strong enough to overcome our dark sides that we aren't aware that they exist? I for one, took Jung's advice and explored my shadow and am aware that there is anger and desire in me, but I realize that those are self-defeating behaviors and I consciously choose to believe in what is right. This is what makes me happy. I feel that I am stronger for my choice of softness and love because it sure as hell is a lot easier to punch somebody out that you don't gree with or like than to love them for who they are. People get tired of (as you say) the rave because they are weak. The rave is a difficulkt philosophy to uphold because it is not easy to love things you don't like. The difference between rave philosophy and the peace, love of the 60's is that they only loved each other, they dropped out of society. Ravers try to love themselves, people they like, and people they don't like. This is a tall order, and a very frustrating one. The rave made me realize that everybody, myself included, are all beings full of light and love. We all have potential to acheive nirvana, but it is not an easy road. I, for one, will not cave in to my darker side, my desire to do what is easy, my desire to act like a hurt child. I will always keep the rave ideals in my heart. I will never be grey or inbetween, I will never give up. LOVE>>>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:21:00 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: emergency posting! In-Reply-To: <01H99Y90CNMO0024YL@uvmvax.uvm.edu> Help! my car broke down yesterday and i have no way to get to liquid tonight in montreal. There are several cars leaving from here but they are all full, with waiting lists. if anyone is going to it and can pick me up on the way, i will be forever in your debt! I live in burlington, Vermont which is on the way from almost all points south. what is liquid? josh wink and nigel richards along with local monteal heros such as tiga. from toronto live p.a. by chameleon. liquid water bar, live nrg jolt bar, smart bar, mind machines, computer animation, multi-colour lasers, film loops... and much more. this event starts out at Metropolis in montreal and continues with after hours at a great location within walking distance. any questions and replies are WELCOME i'll be here untill someone saves me. peace and love, JK ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:26:42 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: back again. >Krieg is not an angry NIN sort of shit stereotype cut his hair in a mohawk-pony >tail kind of guy. Krieg just has a definite aggressive-violent streak. but krieg is a baggy pants wearing stereotype cut his hair like aphex twon kind of guy? generalizations work both ways. >what is it of raves, if they are all yin and no yang? what becomes of a >"scene" which denies half of life? Is there never despair, pain, evil, >lust greed hate selfish anti-christian anti-liberal (one and the >same without a slaughtered God) in anyone? I hated the scene turning >into a) a HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY thing and b) becoming a trite ego-display >show... uhh through all your psuedo-intellectual drivel you fail to make any point. your whole rant bases its shit on the opinion that man is naturally violent, greedy, hateful etc etc etc. this cannot be proven either way. my view is that, we are brought up in a society where all of this is prominent and encouraged. there are some people who make it through all the schooling, brainwashing, modling, of our young minds, whgo still arent like that. we use raves as a form of escape from this society that forces all of those 'bad things' on us. and we also use it to meet and gather with those of like minds. >the point: why does everyone (exccept the truly herdlike) grow tired >of this scene? why does its allure end? because it signifies half of >existence. when first entered it is a bacchanalian feast, pleasure >orgy of physicality and then eventually drugs... turning Euripidean, >hopeless "let us feast while we live"eventual decay, sad, loss, entopy >WHY does this become: this fest is not able to continue under the sway >of "rave philosophy" spare me with your attemt at intellectually snobish writing. its really old and boring. if raves are your sole existance, then i guess its allure will end. for myself, enjoying raves is a small part of me, it does not define me, i define it. >is a sentence magnificent if it does not finish? does not a story bring >itself to a close? is not life ever shadowed with death? DOES NOT >"RAVE PHILOSOPHY" corrode by its inability to realise an end? "ease >after toyle port after stormie seas death after warre sleep after life >doth greatly please"?!? i am not being fatalist, or horrible (OR POSTMODERN >as Dawn DeLuca pretentiously weakly protested, what does a sty;e of paint- >ing have to do with philosophy Dawn anyway hm?) or casting a shadow upon >a light place, i do not rip up the roots of the tree, disperse tthe clouds >deny the rain!! i rather wish to point, if the beauty of this >cycle, of this attempt to balance is lost, it removes the beauty from >our existence!!! its real easy for your pampered college boy ass to speak of the bad aspects of society as a mere spectator. how many frontlines have you fought on? how many times have you been shot at? when have you had to work your ass off for a bowl of rice for only meal? your sitting in a college philosophy class wanking off, planning your next spew of intellectual bullshit to a rave list. if you really wanna enjoy the dark aspects of life, go out and do it. but its real easy when you can return to your pampered lifestyle anytime you want. a lot of people dont have that choice. yeah, and for one who likes to think of everyone else as herds of sheep, and is always speaking of free thought, you sure use a lot of quotes and ideas from an old dead fool. i dont have the time to comment on the rest of this garbage. the fiend 6anthony_m@spcvxa.spc.edu --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:26:21 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Sam, The Butcher" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Sam, The Butcher" Subject: support I just want to thank everyone who wrote to the list and to me personally about the net-gathering. I really felt down about it and I felt much better after the letters of support and encouragement I received from y'all. Thanks again, it's this spirit that makes me love the rave community and NEt-ravers in particular. rave on -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:44:06 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:56:37 EST Dammit, I think the whole first part of what I wrote was lost! Okay, damn, I'm so upset I wrote exactly what I wanted to say before and now I'm pressed for time.....Anyway, post modernism is not just a painting style, its a trend in thinking that is evidenced in all aspects of modern society. Its the questioning of all beliefs and the acceptance of none. In my pretentious and weak opinion it is the epitome of apathy. I am proud to say the rave is all good. Am am proud to say that I have made a decision about what I will stand up for. As far as you saying it is all yin and no yang, that is foolish because the whole idea behind the yin and yang is that they are inextricable intertwined, and it is impossible for one to exist without the other, because everything is ONE. This is an idea the traditional western mind has not been able to comprehend. Sorry about the type-o's and brevity, I had it written really well before but it got lost. Oh well. LOVE>>>>DAWN ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:39:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Citizen Kane Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Citizen Kane Subject: Gabberhouse? What is this? It is fast........ I've never heard of it before, and did I even spell it right? /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ \ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land / /IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine Use OS/2, it'll change your life\ \ If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? / /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:44:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Tai Nguyen Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Tai Nguyen Subject: Re: whatever... >Also, when's Cornell's Spring Break? I'm dying to see what this new scene >is like down there, but I wouldn't be able to make it this weekend. >I'm in the real world now, so time flows differently for me. IN other >words, my time is no longer my own. But next weekend. . . that's >another story, providing some of you will be there. Spring Break is from Saturday 3/19 till Sunday 3/27 so I won't be there and prolly not many other cornell net-ravers but anyone can feel free to drop me a line and visit any other weekend. We even have an empty bedroom in my apartment that you can use as a guest room. By the way, don't expect big time productions here in ithaca, just lots o' heart. ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "These are not my figures I'm quoting. They're |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| from someone who knows what he's talking about." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - unknown congressman in debate |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:06:21 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dawn DeLuca Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dawn DeLuca Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:26:42 -0500 GO! I wish I had said that. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:58:07 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: JACKSONJ@VXC.OCIS.UNCWIL.EDU Subject: Re: back again. I do love philosophy and all but can this thread continue on a more personal level than using the whole list? I get so much mail on my account already and this discussion just feels like a 3-4 person thing. Sorry to gripe, Noj=ME=John ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:08:04 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: Re: back again. Wait...no, I disagree when you say "rave is all good", Dawn. I've been to raves where 12-13 yr. olds were toking off of spliffs with gangstas at 3 am in the morning (cybertek). Are you actually saying that's _good_. Do you think that the uncontrolled selling of drugs is _good_? I think i sucks that you have assholes out there ready to rip you off & sell you shit & get away with it. etc. etc. etc. I find it a risky generalization to make... Terence ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:16:32 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Terence R. Strick" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Terence R. Strick" Subject: anger & desire? Wait...again, what's wrong with desire? Desire is just as fundamental, natural and important a psychological state as any other. It pushes us and drives us in ways that very few other feelings do. To want. c'mon, how can that be self-defeating? Apart from ultra-destructive tendencies, how can any psychological state be self-defeating if it is already precisely your self???? Explore your shadow again, and realize that all your states are integral to yourself and never really separable. Are you saying, Dawn, that you never desire? never get upset, or mad, or angry? take care terence ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 16:56:19 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 15:39:28 EST from Gabberhouse, or maybe it's gabberhaus (I don't know) is Dutch hardcore. It's characterized, in my opinion, by phater drum kicks (that's more bass), crazy samples (a lot aren't in English), and a generally darker atmosphere. Unfortunately, gabber is usually associated with soccer and violence, but in my opinion, that's changed, or changing, as there are now labels like Mokum, which has "United Gabbers Against Racism and Fascism" printed on every sleeve. Also, more Dutch labels seem to be more careful what they put out these days, so there aren't as many tracks like Sperminator's "S-Fucking" and "No Women Allowed" (by the way, I'd never buy a Sperminator 12"!). It's hard to spin hardcore and not spin a good bit of gabber too, but one thing I personally watch out for are shit samples like the above mentioned ones, 'cause personally I'd be embarrased to spin stuff like that. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:43:23 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave McMahon Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave McMahon Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? > there aren't as many tracks like Sperminator's "S-Fucking" and "No Women > Allowed" (by the way, I'd never buy a Sperminator 12"!). It's hard to spin > hardcore and not spin a good bit of gabber too, but one thing I personally > watch out for are shit samples like the above mentioned ones, 'cause personally > I'd be embarrased to spin stuff like that. Granted, alot of those samples are pretty stupid, but if you listen to the absolutely driving, beautiful thump behind some of those tracks you completely ignore the samples and get lost in a furious trance. In particular, that "No Women Allowed" mix that's on Sperminator's "S-Fucking" has a really nice groove. Samples are only there if you let them be. :) dave. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:42:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Is it just me? The other day I was chatting on vrave (gee, what's new?). The subject of music actually came up, but oddly enough it wasn't techno we were talking about. Big Band. I love it, I don't know why but I do. It seemed that a few people there did too and in the past I have met people who loved both techno and big band/jazz. Is their some sort of trend here? Anyone else into both these things? I was also considering there might be a correlation between their origins in a african-american/euro-american fusion. Any credibility to that? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:52:01 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? In-Reply-To: <199402252236.RAA11776@umd5.umd.edu> from "Matt" at Feb 25, 94 04:56:19 pm Good gabber is very inspiring and uplifting it makes me feel energized and happy to be alive muscular sleek and lean..connected to my body as well as mind like the two are one anyway yeah the sperminator things are really tired but good gabber is excellent what more can I say matt you said it all Respect Harry WaZ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:10:32 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WaZZuP! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WaZZuP! Subject: Re: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: <199402252311.SAA17751@umd5.umd.edu> from "danFREELove" at Feb 25, 94 05:42:05 pm Dan I find techno very similar to jazz in its use of rhythm and sound structures as opposed to the simplistic song verse chorus structure of contemprary rock.pop.etc. no it isnt just you Harry ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:22:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Jennifer L. Kimel" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Jennifer L. Kimel" Subject: Re: emergency posting! In-Reply-To: thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you i got a ride! yee haw! have a great weekend! love, peace, and purple cows, <<<<>>>>> On Fri, 25 Feb 1994, Jennifer L. Kimel wrote: > > Help! my car broke down yesterday and i have no way to get to liquid > tonight in montreal. There are several cars leaving from here but they > are all full, with waiting lists. if anyone is going to it and can pick me > up on the way, i will be forever in your debt! I live in burlington, > Vermont which is on the way from almost all points south. > > what is liquid? josh wink and nigel richards along with local monteal > heros such as tiga. from toronto live p.a. by chameleon. liquid water > bar, live nrg jolt bar, smart bar, mind machines, computer animation, > multi-colour lasers, film loops... and much more. this event starts out > at Metropolis in montreal and continues with after hours at a great > location within walking distance. > > any questions and replies are WELCOME i'll be here untill someone saves me. > > peace and love, > JK > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:43:47 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: danFREELove's message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:42:05 -0500 <199402252309.SAA17533@umd5.umd.edu> danFREELove writes: The other day I was chatting on vrave (gee, what's new?). The subject of music actually came up, but oddly enough it wasn't techno we were talking about. Big Band. I love it, I don't know why but I do. It seemed that a few people there did too and in the past I have met people who loved both techno and big band/jazz. Is their some sort of trend here? Anyone else into both these things? COUNT ME IN! I think you have an eye for the future. I look forward to the day when jazz is what people DANCE to again. I have been thinking a lot about the Afro-Cuban stuff Dizzy was doing as well as Afro Cuban big bands. Think about jazz-hop and/or the acid jazz formula and put these Afro-Cuban swing elements in. An important thing here is to capture the call-and0response drum calling that the Afro-derived music had. I have been talking to a friend who has been making industrial-type stuff about this. One may be able to lay in a breakbeat-style sampled Afro-Cuban rhythms. Lay in some sampled big band melodic elements -- horn sections. Then like jazz-hop do real instrument improvisation on top of that. (Personally I think Salsoul and the freestyle that it inspired was an attempt to bring back Afro-Cuban to pop dance but did not quite hack it.) I was also considering there might be a correlation between their origins in a african-american/euro-american fusion. Any credibility to that? Yes. Look at the folks that made up Jazz fusion groups like Passport and Weather Report. A good contemporary Afro-Cuban big band is Irakarie (sp?) Listening to Machito and Tito Puente, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:47:54 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 94 17:42:05 -0500. <9402252308.AA02996@MIT.EDU> > The other day I was chatting on vrave (gee, what's new?). The subject of > music actually came up, but oddly enough it wasn't techno we were talking > about. Big Band. I love it, I don't know why but I do. It seemed that > a few people there did too and in the past I have met people who loved > both techno and big band/jazz. Is their some sort of trend here? Anyone > else into both these things? > I was also considering there might be a correlation between their origins > in a african-american/euro-american fusion. Any credibility to that? > Dan > "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott > Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud > You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam > You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu I'm into both techno/house/etc. and jazz (along with acid jazz). John Coltraine is great stuff. Check him out if you're at all interested in getting into jazz. Anyone else like jazz? -casper ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:11:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper who ne-raves ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:25:48 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: back again. Krieg, you may be interested in an article in the latest Vibe about london's jungle scene....my impression is that this scene definitely recognizes a dark side, that is, if I understand what you're saying. Over there, this jungle variant of the 'rave scene' is motivated by poor kids who are black white, whatever, venting real frustration about the current downturn in the English economy....well, they might not] be making a socio-political point, but they are releasing real anger. check it out. --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:30:43 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Info please... Go to techno.stanford.edu and look under chemicals. You'll find plenty of info there... dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:44:12 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Rebecca A. Cochran" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rebecca A. Cochran" Organization: The American University Subject: Re: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:42:05 -0500 from Good point Dan. I often find myself looking in stores and shops for Acid Jazz t hat has a bit more Jazz to it...I love blues and jazz, and I like the techno ad ditives. It just takes Jazz and blues one step further in its evolution. I am a ctually wondering if (is this possible) to maybe sample in or even spin some Ja zz (the original stuff)...I think it would be great to hear in a chill out room or the like...:) Just my opinion...:) Becca :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: anger & desire? terence writes: Explore your shadow again, and realize that all your states are integral to yourself and never really separable. Are you saying, Dawn, that you never desire? never get upset, or mad, or angry? ***** I think what dawn was saying something else. Certainly, we all have a broad spectrum of feelings, from euphoria to rage. But we should be able to differentiate from these different emotions, and recognize that yes, certain feelings are rational and appropriate in some instances and some are not. I hesitate to use the word appropriate, though, because then we have to question who decides what is appropriate and what is not. But I do think that we can agree that sometimes, venting our true emotions may not be rational or fair to the victim of our rage. For example, you're on the dancefloor, and yet another person bumbs into you and ruins your groove. Though yu may want to, you don't turn around and sream and yell at them. You realize that, although you may have been bumped into 50 times that night, that last person might have been very careful the whole night. Maybe you were the only person they got in the way of. Is it fair to vent exactly what you think because you're pissed off? I just don't think so. Aanyway, I was always under the impression that the rave scene was about community. Part of being in a community is having to control our extreme emotions in an effort to preserve the community itself. --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:56:59 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Is it just me? Alot of people laugh when they discover that, laying next to my house/techno collection are the likes of john coltrane, sonny rollins, ella fitzgerald, and yes, even some sinatra. -dan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 21:36:36 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: back again. I'm really impressed with Krieg's poetic defense of his prerogative. It was well-worded. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 21:49:11 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: <199402260228.VAA17225@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 25 Feb 1994, wrote: > and yes, even some sinatra. Yay! While it may sound kind of funny I dig SOME of Sinatra's stuff. He has a real beat to his singing and occasionally will just hit a chord and go off with some really jazzy stuff. My brother in law, who used to manage a jazz club in SF called Kimballs East turned me on to some of his stuff. :) But what I was really getting at wasn't the Jazz/Acid Jazz connection but more of a connection to the House -> Techno / Jazz -> Big Band thing. I mean, both took a reasonably raw african-american music style and then co-opted it to the euro-american (Gee, we are PC, aren't we?) tastes. Like they say, it's Big Band is white man's Jazz. And I just dig Glenn Miller, Cab Calloway, Duke Ellington Big Band stuff.. (Yes, I do like other jazz, I think my favorite being Fusion style like Miles Davis's Live from Tokyo album (I think that was it's name)). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 22:17:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: whatever... America Online really needs a quoter... QUOTE FROM LITTLEBOY: =========== Umm. . .about the latest HYPNO mag. I think it's out. It has an interview with the "Genitorturers", some metal band that puts on an S & M show at all their concerts. They also interview Young American Primitive and reviewed a couple new techno CDs. I discovered this mag a couple of weeks ago, so it's gotta be coming out in your area soon. =============== No that's been out almost two months... that's the old issue, I'm wondering whenÿ the NEXT ONE is coming out! % % %% %%% % % < % %% % % % % % < %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation % % % % % % % < %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:09:40 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Neith Preston Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Neith Preston Subject: please...i need your help I need, need,. need to find a ride for jesse and I to Pittsburg next month. It would be some time from the 4-14th we need rides there and back...they can be partial rides or full...and at whichever date available...we'll probably take a bus to you if need be. So, to sum it up: RIDE NEEDED From Boston-Pittsburg and Pittsburg-Boston Some point between March 4th and 14th Can be partial Ride Will help with gas, tolls, etc Also I will owe you a huge hug Thank you soooo much (lost our first ride) Love and Frogs!!! Neith (& Jesse) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:07:33 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: What raving has become to me... With all the recent talk about how people's views of parties and the rave lifestyle have changed over time, I'd like to add my thoughts. True, on one level, raving can be considered shallow, but only if you look on the surface. Peel away a layer, and you'll find more. For me, one of these layers is freedom. Freedom to dance if I want to, or how I want to. Nate G had mentioned in an earlier post about feeling self-conscious about dancing in non-rave circumstances, but losing those inhibitions at a party. This is a perfect example. Hey, if I feeling like doing every intricate hand gesture, or if I feel like doing the rhumba, I'm free to do it. Try doing that in a club. There's also freedom of dress. Wear whatever you want, whether they be baggies, sweats or bikini thongs. Not too long ago, I couldn't get into a dance club because I was wearing a baseball cap. Fuck that ... I'm tired of dealing with attitude. It's a matter of expression. Finally, there is the freedom to reach out to others, stay in your own world. Try going up to someone in a bar/nightclub, without knowing them, and strike up a conversation. You'll either get a cold stare or someone will accuse you being a pick-up artist. Seriously, when was the last time someone walked up and offered you a lollipop at your local joint? This isn't meant to dismiss any one person's point of view. Rather, just a suggestion to be cognizant of what others believe. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 23:15:30 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Lodging space for Red Hello, Are there any cheap places to sleep in or around Fitchburg? I'll probably be going to Red, but there's no way I'm going to drive back to L.I. from Mass w/o some rest. I've got a friend who lives in Cambridge, so I may have a place to sleep. If not, are there any cheap motels? Even the Amy Fisher/Joey Buttafuco rent-by-the-hour type would be great. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 00:18:13 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RQUAZI@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Rishad J. Quazi" Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Subject: Re: Minor Infraction crash-landing help wanted In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 23 Feb 1994 21:51:39 -0500 from <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Joe! Good hearing from ya, goodboy -- :) There is a small 'microrave' going on at a dorm in Wellesley College, MA. Basically i guess it's going to be a net-gathering with net-DJ's etc. It's on Friday, March 11th, and i'd like to get there early, so i'm planning to leave before lunch time, if possible. I would mail Jetta to ask if it's okay to crash at her place for a night (most probably it'll be okay, but i guess it's polite to ask in advance). I guess my return plans are for sometime during the day on Saturday, probably after lunch or so. If you want more details on the party itself, i guess you could mail Jetta or wait for the next ROM. ANyway, i still have your phone number as 201-437-8736 (right?). I'll give you a call soon about this, and you can call me at 516-331-5369 also if you want. Take care and be good in the meantime ;) - FiSH ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 18:08:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: What's the deal? KNOWLEDGEABLE BIPEDS: 1) What's the deal with RED? Does anyone know? 4 Yellow we all had flyers and an excruciating list of details months before it happened. Does anyone know who the DJ's are & even IF it will happen? March 26 is only a month away. 2) Is FUTURE GROOVE (Long Island, March 12) going 2 happen? I've heard/read some different things and now I'm confused. If a DJ without an email accunt wanted 2 spin, what is the phone number that they should call? THANX IN ADVANCE PEACE OUT:) MARK I LOVE U ALL!!! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 01:35:05 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: IM5448@ALBNYVMS.BITNET Subject: Re: Is it just me? Dan, isn't Acid Jazz just the sort of 'pidgin' kind of music that fits your description?? -----> techno, big band jazz ::: I think....ask sprockett, he's the one who spins the stuff. *grin* btw---anybody else buy a tape called 'liquid music: the future house compilation'? I just got it, and I'm wondering what somebody else thinks about it. Personally I was least impressed with moby's track on the album... :( -Akeera ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 02:04:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Artificial Intelligence tour Hey one and all: I don't remember seeing this on any posts/R-O-M, but here are some upcoming tour dates for the Artificial Intelligence tour, with Autechre and DJ Lewis from the Orb. The info line is (212) 966-4033, people there from noon till 7 PM. Charlotte, NC March 1 NYC March 2 Miami March 3 San Francisco March 4 (For all you sf-ravers on the list) Montreal March 5 Chicago March 6 BTW, Alan Sanctuary is on AOL, and by default, Internettable. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 02:13:23 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Bob Baxter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Bob Baxter Organization: Fraternity of Fun Folks Subject: Re: What's the deal? In-Reply-To: <199402260648.BAA16225@umd5.umd.edu> The list of DJs for Red will supposedly be announced by next Friday (March 5th). Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 02:57:19 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <199402260148.UAA11182@umd5.umd.edu> On Fri, 25 Feb 1994, wrote: > Krieg, you may be interested in an article in the latest Vibe about > london's jungle scene....my impression is that this scene definitely > recognizes a dark side, that is, if I understand what you're saying. > Over there, this jungle variant of the 'rave scene' is motivated by > poor kids who are black white, whatever, venting real frustration about > the current downturn in the English economy....well, they might not] > be making a socio-political point, but they are releasing real anger. > > check it out. > > --Dan > Wow, I didn't know anything about this article. Thanks Dan. Incidentally if the last 3 years is any indication I think Jungle will be the next big thing as far as raves are concerned here. I think people are ripe for it. Joe |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| |------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside__| |[][][][][][][][][] Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)__| |[][][][][][][] email raver909@telerama.lm.com for bookings info & demo__| |[][][][][] Or ftp sfraves.stanford.edu for the song 'Syrous Darkness'___| |[][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][][]| ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:16:33 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: P.S.A. In-Reply-To: <9402232353.AA13112@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "SHALAKO" at Feb 23, 94 4:51 pm > > >PS my original remark about Dante was provoked by this really awful > >djing performance he had last April at Grin. anyway, sorry for subjecting > >a decent guy to stale ire. > > !!! > Grin was one of his BEST sets ever!!!! > thoroughly confused as to what (if anything) makes krieg zimmerman feel warm and > fuzzy... > > krieg, maybe you should try...say...the death&armegeddon thrash-rock scene...if > one exists... > Shannon, whatever happened to a little PLUR? peh. doug ) ( ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:26:17 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Anguished Hateful Ex-Christian Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Anguished Hateful Ex-Christian Subject: Krieg vs. Dawn and Fiend (not Camper) an aside... Camper, did i ever say anything else? the rave versus reality, any escape, beautiful gorgeous. I didnt talk about salsa to you for nothing at Star Market. I am never against you. But now... I SEE Dawn you consider yourself STRONG for denying your shadow? The NONE shoudl be stronger than me. Because i am the living Dostoevsky, (not that "rave" shite) because the slings and arrows which i myslef cast upon myself for my opinions are greater and stronger then anything you or Fiend the Mohawkian Pompous-Presumptuious ass (as we shall see) is he not the same who said i was a racist for differnetatinng between white and black culture? oh you polite wasp-german "no there is no difference forget it." SO YOU ARE STRONG for forcing off your shadow, Ms. Jungian? My war is to reclaim my shadow!!! i retreat, as i did before because my conscience-consciousness beats me defeats me reduces me begs my Jobian submission to nosensical random pain-grotesquerie (Kreig you are evil, your thoughts are wicked you dash the good the justt the kind with your evil wretched selfish nonsens Kreig disperse your self because you destroy destroy all that is good could rejuvenate rebuild Kreig die Kreig die Kreig die die die die die die die DIE) I am at war with myself, i cannot fight fully because I have been TRAINED yes trained to hate myself most fully to be the watchguard, my own keeper, and lock my self-evil within and it has distraught me and made me wretched and hateful and sullen, GOD i ask GOD i ask I would love God, end-self pull forth kind love herd joy trap self and push toward this good, this greater this good) but I KNOW myself and my Sysiphus nature and my sad foolish attempts to reducce myself!!! you dont know, i wanted to write back against myself, with fake addresses: YOU are a fool! you know not of what you speak, you employ the words of the wise and the insane to build something, a sand castle of greatness which is wicked and wretched and should not exist you stupid evil scumshit fucker disgusting evil wretched hateful son of a bitch shit worthless fucker die die die. FIEND: i am NOT in college. I work 60 hours a week in meaningless retail jobs. Have for two years. i earned about 8000 dollars last year. oh yes, i have luxury. i had jocko rich kids want to beat me up a month ago for the way id danced, i have such a cushy existence. i never never studied philosophy for that one year in college, all i know i read OUTSIDE (yes intellecctual curiosity outside an institution how shocking) well FIEND you pompous bugger i have bashed your teeth with a brick, i have proved i am not the stupid fool non-living (nutcase)-employing man you thought i was, i am a wretched twisted self-hating (i want to be... i cant be.... good!) sack of shit, would you like tto join me in pissing on myself? maybe my bladder is empty, maybe i am sick of this. maybe Kreig should rejoin his evil, raise up shake off this terrible yoke such as the two happy brothers died under, and finally begin the Fifth Part of Zarathustra, oh God oh Heaven oh Salvation, oh wretched horrible person. I throw myself on a spit, i roast myself so YOU can judge me?!! so you can dance on my ashes, anthony-fiend?! i dont think so, i think this is enough. BUT ITS NOT! i wil let you, i will... "Let the no more say then, when they perceive two conflicting wills in one man, that the condlict is between two contrary sould, of two con- trary substances, for two contrary principles, one good and the other bad. For Thou O true God, dost disprove, check, and convict them; as when, both wills being bad, one deliberates whether he should kill a man by poison or the sword; whether he should seize this or that estate or another's, when he cannot both; whether he should purchase pleasure by luxury, or keep his money by covetousness; whether he go to the circus or the theatre, if both be open on one day; or thirdly, to rob another's house, if he have the opportunity; or fourthly, to commit adultery, if at the same time he have means thereof also; all these meeting together in the same juncture of time, and all being equally desired, which cannot at one time be acted: for they rend the mind amid four, or even (amid the vast variety of things desired) more, conflicting wills, nor do they allege that there are so many divers substances. So also in wills which are good. For I ask them, is it good to take pleasure in reading the Apostle? or good to take pleasure in a sober Psalm? or good to discourse on the Gospel? They will answer to each, "it is good." What then if all give equal pleasure, and all at once ? Do not divers wills distract the mind, while he deliberates what he should rather choose? yet are they all good, and are at variance till one be chosen, whither the entire will may be borne, which has divided into many. Thus also, when, above, eternity delights us, and the pleasure of temporal good holds us down below, it is the same soul which willeth not this or that with an entire will; and therefore is rent asunder with greivous perplexities, while out of truth it sets this first, but out of habit sets not that aside. "Thus soul-sick was I, and tormebted, accusing myself much more severely than my wont, rolling and turning me in my chain, till that wholly broken, whereby now was but just, but still was, held. And Thou, O Lord, pressedst upon me in my inward parts by a severe mercy, redoubling the lashes of fear and shame, lest I should give way, and not bursting the same slight remaining tie, it should reccover strength, and bind me the faster. .. "And from Thee, O Lord, unto whose eyes the abyss of man's consciencce is nake, what could be hiddne in me though I would not confess it? Fro I should hide Thee frim me, not me from Thee. But now, for that my groaning is witness , that I am displeased with myself, Thou shinest out, and art pleasing, and beloved, and longed forl that I may be ashamed of myself, and renounce myself, and choose Thee, and neither pleae Thee nor myself, but in Thee." YOU bastard, Fiend to suppose i attemted intellectual stylishness, that i toyed witha flame, a torch which another had lit; YOU bitch, Dawn, to assume, I had no reason to my evil; You fool, Camper, to not understand why I cried out again; I am not interested in IMPRESSING anyone with myself. I understand my stupid self-destroying wretched evil, which because it cannot destroy OTHERS is destroying ME. My instinct to dominate, create, suppress, destroy, BE is being crushed by a huge conscience-consciousness (i run them together as they are the same) which threatens to break every bone in me, crush my spirit as itt is naturally, force me to rub myself raw upon the bars of my prison! I have revealed myself for no good reason. Kreig ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:38:44 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: music styles In-Reply-To: <9402230212.AA12135@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "taylor deupree" at Feb 22, 94 9:11 pm > > i don't know what this post means.. or ads up to.. besides missing the > old days (which i've been doing an awful laot lately)... and just a your two arn't the only one's taylor :) doug ) ( > > peace. > > > >>taylor > > > __________________________________ > | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | > | - - - - | > | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged > | - - - - | your 303 today? > |----------------------------------| > | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | > | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| > __________________________________ > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:41:18 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <9402251742.AA15152@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Dan English" at Feb 25, 94 5:05 pm camper said the following: > > i disagree, again. > i agree, that good and fun are meaningless without evil and un-fun, > but: > > the cold cruel worl is evil and un-fun. reality bites. > > raves are fun and good and nice (or at least they used to be). they are ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ i think those are the operative words camper doug ) ( dz5401a@american.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:48:39 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <9402251742.AA15152@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Dan English" at Feb 25, 94 5:05 pm Camper said the following: > raves are fun and good and nice (or at least they used to be). they are > the ying to the yang, or the vica to the versa, or the greg top the marsha. > > so thats what i say. > love, > -camper. > * > stay groovy. > camper english it ain't easy, being cheesey @buphy.bu.edu > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:52:40 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <9402252223.AB15364@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU:NE-RAVES@UMDD.BITNET" at Feb 25, 94 3:26 pm Hey Fiend, myabe before you oopen your fucking mouth and make assupmtions about other people should should learn a few facts first: the person you attack is not in school and has not been for two years. that person has worked nights shifts full time at factories to earn money for himself. he has worked sixty hour weeks and has put in a lot of time in the "REAL" world which you say he is not part of. So fiend i say FUCK OFF, and think about who you attack before you do. doug ) ( PLUR yourself baby ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 04:42:26 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , 6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" <6ANTHONY_M@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU> Organization: St. Peter's College, US Subject: Re: Krieg vs. Dawn and Fiend (not Camper) >The NONE shoudl be stronger than me. Because i am the living Dostoevsky, >(not that "rave" shite) because the slings and arrows which i myslef >cast upon myself for my opinions are greater and stronger then anything >you or Fiend the Mohawkian Pompous-Presumptuious ass (as we shall see) >is he not the same who said i was a racist for differnetatinng between >white and black culture? oh you polite wasp-german "no there is no >difference forget it." uhh i never claimed there was no difference. what i did comment on, if i remember correctly, was the snide way you commented on some 'white mans disease'. but that is irrelevant to this discussion, as is most of your poetry. >I am at war with myself, i cannot fight fully because I have been >TRAINED yes trained to hate myself most fully to be the watchguard, >my own keeper, and lock my self-evil within and it has distraught >me and made me wretched and hateful and sullen, GOD i ask GOD >i ask I would love God, end-self pull forth kind love herd joy >trap self and push toward this good, this greater this good) >but I KNOW myself and my Sysiphus nature and my sad foolish >attempts to reducce myself!!! yeah its called self-control. humans have that uncanny ability to think about their actions before they do them. we do not live on instinct, no matter how much you try to fool yourself. im no biologist, so i dont know the correct names for the parts of the brain, but the part of the human brain that controls instinct, is very very small compared to the rest. our most prominent instinct is to suck things for sustenance at birth, and of course self preservation. i dont see what god has to do with this, but i assume thats your 'poetic liscense'. >FIEND: i am NOT in college. I work 60 hours a week in meaningless >retail jobs. Have for two years. i earned about 8000 dollars last year. >oh yes, i have luxury. i had jocko rich kids want to beat me up a month >ago for the way id danced, i have such a cushy existence. i never never >studied philosophy for that one year in college, all i know i read >OUTSIDE (yes intellecctual curiosity outside an institution how shocking) >well FIEND you pompous bugger i have bashed your teeth with a brick, ok i was wrong about that. but you still cant deny the fact that the citizens of the usa are very priveleged, at the expense of others. that was my point. >I throw myself on a spit, i roast myself so YOU can judge me?!! so >you can dance on my ashes, anthony-fiend?! i dont think so, i think >this is enough. BUT ITS NOT! i wil let you, i will... as much as i enjoy these theatrics, posting something to a discussion list, warrants replies from others on the list. hence the name 'discussion'. and i dont consider myself 'pissing on you', i was attempting to discuss something. >YOU bastard, Fiend to suppose i attemted intellectual stylishness, >that i toyed witha flame, a torch which another had lit; are you denying this? read your post before you send it. >I am not interested in IMPRESSING anyone with myself. I understand >my stupid self-destroying wretched evil, which because it >cannot destroy OTHERS is destroying ME. My instinct to dominate, >create, suppress, destroy, BE is being crushed by a huge >conscience-consciousness (i run them together as they are the same) >which threatens to break every bone in me, crush my spirit as itt once again, you say humans natural instinct is to dominate, suppress and destroy. this cannot be proven, and you failed to comment on anything i said about this. or maybe you did, in riddle form. so i say again. society has taught us all these authoritarian, greedy, and self serving traits. in some ways i agree with you. i just dont comment on those parts. standing around with fake smiles pretending everything is nice and happy, is really shallow and naive. if that is your only point about this whole thing, then i guess i agree with you. anyway, i think your taking this a bit too personally. and for all the people complaining about us discussing this, go 'SUB CALENDAR' if you don't want to hear any discussion. the fiend --- The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 08:46:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: Re: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: <199402252358.SAA26012@umd5.umd.edu> If you really want to here a great JAZZ DJ, check out King Britt of Digable Planets. He spins some nasty Jazz and acid JAZZ whenever he spins. Also, Nigel Richards spins some cool acid jazz. Jazz is back as dance music and I hope it never dies! DJ PaniK ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 09:04:38 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DJ PaniK Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DJ PaniK Subject: List Hey Tribe. Is there a way to list out all the users of NE-Raves? I am compiling a list of NE-Ravers to e-mail directly. PaniK ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 06:13:29 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Krieg vs. Dawn and Fiend (not Camper) Hmmmm..... And I just worry about finding a studio apt under $1500 a month in NYC....... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 10:31:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <199402260923.EAA25736@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 26 Feb 1994, Douglas Zimmerman wrote: > myabe before you oopen your fucking mouth and make assupmtions about > > So fiend i say FUCK OFF, and think about who you attack before you Hey hey folks.. If you want to spread this kind of vitriol, please, take it to private email. The NE Raves list is a place for discussion and PLUR, if you want to be angry and attack please use alt.raves or private mail. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:21:15 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Ian Melven Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Ian Melven Subject: Artificial Intelligence tour In-Reply-To: Bob Baxter's message of Sat, 26 Feb 1994 02:04:23 -0400 <9402260712.AA29022@life.ai.mit.edu> Any possibility of them coming further north east, to Boston or Providence? I've heard Autechre on the Artificial Intelligence compilation from Warp.. I like them. A lot. Plus DJ Lewis is pretty damn good too.. Thanks -- ian ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:25:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Machine Media <0005995336@MCIMAIL.COM> Subject: back again and again and again . . . BIPEDS: Some people have commented on how this thread shouldn't continue. I see their point, all of this pretentious verbosity can get a bit confounding. I think the real value in this is not that we've learned that "Zarathustra" is available in Cliff Notes ;) but that in sharing our thoughts we get 2 learn a bit more about our fellow ne-ravers. There has been much discussion on vraves about etiquette, a discussion here about good & evil, & a continuous discussion about PLUR. I find it amusing how people can often attribute their own opinions 2 misinterpretations of famous people :) I do not believe in god or religious morals -- I only know ethics. The greatest virtue is entirely personal, which is, BE TRUE TO YOURSELF. There is no moral imperative. Hence, telling someone, "Be good!" is senseless. Trying 2 establish codes of behavior will only fuel more hypocrisy. All of the values that our subculture esteems come from within. I much prefer a foundation of integrated honesty. How else can we take ourselves 2 the heights that we imagine? Desire is not "evil." Love is the spiritualization of sensuality, it represents a great triumph over this oppressive misanthropy that has been brought down upon us. The negation of desire is the negation of life -- that is the ultimate decadence. I see nothing wrong with hedonism, in fact, I like it :D As a duality exists in everything, the same goes 4 hate -- the spiritualization of anger. It is not wrong 2 fight against injustice. It is not wrong 2 stand up 4 yourself. But due not be too eager 2 hate, U might find that your conflicts with others are really conflicts with yourself. However, allowing harm 2 continue in our scene with the excuse of spreading "peace" is what is decadent -- using a false causality 2 justify a lack of heart. If U can smile at everything, a smile becomes meaningless. Peace is not quiet. Love is not possession. Unity is not conformity. Respect is not servitude. PEACE OUT:) MARK "Posthumous men - I, for example -are understood worse than timely ones, but _heard_ better. More precisely: we are never understood - _hence_ our authority" -- Friedrich Nietzche I LOVE U ALL!! P.S. Acid Jazz isn't either. (tm) P.P.S. I can't dig that fusion shit, man. U cats should check out some Monk or some Mingus :) Weather Report? Pat Methany? fuk dat! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:52:17 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II > Date: Fri, 25 Feb 1994 17:42:05 -0500 > From: danFREELove > Subject: Is it just me? > Big Band. I love it, I don't know why but I do. It seemed that > a few people there did too and in the past I have met people who loved > both techno and big band/jazz. Is their some sort of trend here? Anyone > else into both these things? After spinning some mobile parties for 65 year olds getting off on Glen Miller and Artie Shaw, etc. I can definitely say there is a correlation between orchestrated music and techno. Techno, believe it or not, works for all age groups because of it's relentless devotion to the beat. Big band music usually had at least 20 players while toward the late 1940's, bebop/jazz with only four member groups became popular. Check out some early Charlie "Bird" Parker stuff and Miles Davis. The swing beat percussion is amazing. Some of these tunes easily were kicking at 150-170 BPM which would make techno remixes a reality. (Just think of what they did with classical back in the 70's with "Hooked On Classics" set to a disco beat.) > I was also considering there might be a correlation between their origins > in a african-american/euro-american fusion. Any credibility to that? My example would be "Give It Up". Check out the percussion. Rather than African based, it's Latin American. (Where most of the inhabitants in early times were influenced by African music because of the stupid slave trade.) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:59:58 +0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Joe LeSesne Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Philosophy and other unrelated crap In-Reply-To: <199402260924.EAA25877@umd5.umd.edu> On Sat, 26 Feb 1994, Douglas Zimmerman wrote: > Hey Fiend, > > > > myabe before you oopen your fucking mouth and make assupmtions about > other people should should learn a few facts first: > > the person you attack is not in school and has not been for two years. > > that person has worked nights shifts full time at factories to earn > money for himself. > > he has worked sixty hour weeks and has put in a lot of time in the > "REAL" world which you say he is not part of. > > So fiend i say FUCK OFF, and think about who you attack before you > do. > doug ) ( > > PLUR yourself baby I'm sorry and I don't mean to sound like a jerk but could you two or three or whatever continue this via private email. Is it really necessary for all of us to have to read this nonsense. Joe ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:02:57 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Phil Z Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Phil Z Subject: Re: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: Your message of Fri, 25 Feb 1994 20:44:12 EST > Good point Dan. I often find myself looking in stores and shops for Acid Jazz t > hat has a bit more Jazz to it...I love blues and jazz, and I like the techno ad > ditives. It just takes Jazz and blues one step further in its evolution. I am a > ctually wondering if (is this possible) to maybe sample in or even spin some Ja > zz (the original stuff)...I think it would be great to hear in a chill out room > or the like...:) A lot of dance-oriented music is sampling jazz these days, which I think is excellent. Pulse magazine recently had a list of jazz samples used in contemporary/dance music that really suprised me. Miles Davis, not suprisingly, came up, particularly his more electric stuff like "A Tribute to Jack Johnson" or "In a Silent Way" (which I think would be *wonderful* in a chill-out room, Becca!). Rhythmically I see a real relationship to jazz in dance music, especially in the way House and Progressive House kinda swings and uses cymbals in syncopated rhythms. I keep hoping that more jazz rhythms propogate their way into dance music, since there are so many unexplored options from the jazz world that would be wonderfully danceable. Of course dance music as we know is is quite strict in form, so the real heart of jazz, improvisation, has no place in dance music as of yet. Perhaps that will change, and we'll see a more dynamic form of music evolve! __________________________________________________________________________ _____ \___/\ Phil / / / / A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag / / is fast and bulbous / /____. got me? \/______\ __________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:09:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Francis L Sibilla Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Francis L Sibilla Subject: SoCal Request In-Reply-To: <199402240046.TAA15253@umd5.umd.edu> Does anyone have the address of so-cal raves - and/or Joachim's address (J. Vance). My friend adam (who used to subscribe to ne-raves) is getting flown out for a grad school interview and was wondering if he would be able to check out some events. Thanks in advance. Fran ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:46:28 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) Does anyone remember the first time they heard the Beltram remix of "Dominator" or The Omen? For me, it was August 18, 1991 at Trumps in Wayne, NJ. DJ Bob LaRocco was spinning and the crowd went nuts. The lights were taking everyone to another dimension and the vibe was indescribable. I was hooked. The two ultimate techno songs of all time: Dominator (The Complete Remixes)--Human Resource (R&S Records Belgium) The Omen--Program 2/Beltram (R&S Records Belgium) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 14:12:13 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: Is it just me? In-Reply-To: Phil Z's message of Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:02:57 EST <199402261731.MAA26552@umd5.umd.edu> Phil Z writes, Of course dance music as we know is is quite strict in form, so the real heart of jazz, improvisation, has no place in dance music as of yet. Perhaps that will change, and we'll see a more dynamic form of music evolve! Well, improv was alive and kicking was during the big band era, where there was improv solos. It also continues in current Afro-Cuban big bands. S.O.B.S in NYC looks like a good place to witness this. Guess what -- with groups like US3, and Giant Steps, improv is coming back. I think it would be neat to have a dynamic virtual big band -- it would put on members and change with guest artists from city to city. This is sort of the mode that a group like Giant Steps works by. It was a good time to see Giant Steps at the Orb concert at Roseland in NYC last fall. Oh yeah, the fastest jazz piece I think is "Cheroke KoKo" by Charlie Parker at around 300BPM! PS: I like playing my horn to songs like Atom Bomb (dj Pierre). PPS: George Clinton is coming to the Roxy in Boston Monday October 7th. Informed music is the best (dance) music. Regards, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 14:24:50 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: gabber and other hardstuff Since one or two of you have expressed an interest in gabber, and since I spin a good bit of gabber, I was going to offer a copy of my newest demo (with a nice cover too!) to anyone that wants it. All I ask is that you send me a tape and $1.50 for shipping and handling (that's $0.25 for the padded envelope, and $1.25 for first class postage; don't even think that I'm going to be asking for $4+!). My new mix isn't completely gabber, but a good bit more than half of it is, so I think you'd get the right idea if you were to hear it. My email address is . Just write me and we'll hook it up. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 11:59:26 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Chris Beaumont Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Chris Beaumont Subject: WEB for the webless.. An interesting forwarded post. Does the rave community know about the OTIS collaborative virtual art project? ... Subject: WEB for the WEBLESS! To: otis@cwis.unomaha.edu Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 10:27:09 -0600 (CST) From: Ed X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 538 Status: R I don't know how many of you already knew this...but for those without web, there IS hope. See, there's a text-web browser available via SunSite. Just telnet to sunsite.unc.edu and login as "lynx". It'll automatically put you in a home web page. You can then hit "G" then type "http://sunsite.unc.edu/otis/otis.html" and it will get you linked to OTIS's Web Page...complete with hyperlinks and such. Now, you won't get all the fancy schmancy pics or anything, but it seems better than nuttin' and whee-joobies is it fun... ...e ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 14:59:36 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , "Chris C. Kozup" Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "Chris C. Kozup" Subject: Re: gabber and other hardstuff In-Reply-To: <199402261935.OAA11693@umd5.umd.edu> from "Matt" at Feb 26, 94 02:24:50 pm What length tape do you need? Is 60min enough??? -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:57 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Stefan Stasik Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Stefan Stasik Subject: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory Hi Guys!!! Well, as of last night, techo as I knew it, in one aspect, ended. Jamn' 94.5 (WJMN) the top 40 station turning hip-hop and rap in Boston, played 'Mortal Combat' last night. They way the dj intro'ed was rediculous!! Something like.. 'Okaaaay, here is Teccch-Noooooo!' And kicked into this jam that samples stuff from the Sega game. Its really a BADD song.! And this wasn't on during their fRiday or Saturday night dance jams they always do later on, this was Prime Time drive (5:30 PM)!!! We have been around and around on the implications of techno hitting the mainstream... I just wanted to report another incident of it in the Boston Area!! :( The Wellesley Micro rave sounds like it is going to be phat! I am very much looking forward to it, and am going to try to get a couple of my non-raver but clubbing freinds (here in Boston) to come along.. Does anybody know if the providence boys are still doing Evolution Phactory every weekend?? i heard a rumor that it was, and just wanted to check, because when I went in November, I had the most incredible time. please mail me if anyone knows what is going on with the Prov RI scene!! Ok, enough blabbering (do i dare say it??0 PLUR Deej (aka Stefan) Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 15:40:16 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , RUSH and Floyd fan Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: RUSH and Floyd fan Subject: Re: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory In-Reply-To: <199402262025.PAA18159@umd5.umd.edu> from "Stefan Stasik" at Feb 26, 94 12:07:57 pm X-Rush Quote: "He's not concerned with yesterday. He knows constant change is here today. He's noble enough to know what's right. But weak enough not to choose it. He's wise enough to win the world. But fool enough to lose it." -RUSH, 'New World Man' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1231 > > > Well, as of last night, techo as I knew it, in one aspect, ended. Jamn' 94.5 > (WJMN) the top 40 station turning hip-hop and rap in Boston, played > 'Mortal Combat' last night. They way the dj intro'ed was rediculous!! > Something like.. 'Okaaaay, here is Teccch-Noooooo!' And kicked into this > jam that samples stuff from the Sega game. Its really a BADD song.! > And this wasn't on during their fRiday or Saturday night dance jams they > always do later on, this was Prime Time drive (5:30 PM)!!! > We have been around and around on the implications of techno hitting the > mainstream... > I just wanted to report another incident of it in the Boston Area!! :( > > Deej (aka Stefan) > No offense, but if you listen to a shit station like JAMN, you deserve what you get. :) -- ============================================================================== || Matthew Jukins || "Begin the day with a friendly voice; a companion|| || mpj1@kepler.unh.edu || unobtrusive- plays that song that's so elusive, || || mpj1@christa.unh.edu || and the magic music makes your morning mood." || ||======================|| -RUSH, "Spirit of Radio" || ||==================================================|| ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 15:44:59 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: :( (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 13:22:03 EST From: Mr. Ultraworld To: Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES Subject: :( thursday i was supposed to go out to timonium and set up a few dates for the rest of the year, including the date for glow and for halloween. when i called him up, the manager of the fairgrounds informed me that last week the board of directors held a meeting and decided that the all night rave party was not going to happen at timonium again. despite police, media, and even some degree of legislative support for our non-alcoholic positive events, the board felt that they did not want to have to answer to the press and public every time there was a rave there. max (the manager) likened it to when they decided to stop having rodeos. there really wasn't a problem, and nobody got hurt, but the animal rights groups would make a big stink over it every time they had one, until they just said that it wasn't worth the publicity. we even offered them 5 times the value of the space, but they said it wasn't a decision of business, it was a decision based them not wanting to have to take time to defend themselves. it's really unfortunate that people have to be such whimps. i'm feeling kind of down about the whole thing, but i believe things happen for a reason, and i guess the reason is that it was time to find a new space in the rave tradition, rather then rely on the same "safe" location time after time. don't worry though, we will never have a full blown higher priced event in any location that could get shut down, so it's just a matter of finding the venues. (and of course, i'm already working on it) so that means, right now "glow" is on hold for april, and i would say that if we don't get a new space this week or next it probably won't happen in that month. "ultraviolet" is still on at it's new space on may 21st the party in june is now being planned for either the dc location or this park in balimore, "wave" is currently unaffected at the ocean on july 21st "jungle groove" ( the 3 day camping trip) is still being scouted for late august early september, and the halloween party is currently seeking a home. actually, now that i typed out what the future will bring, the timonium thing doesnt' seem that bad. on final note, shame on all of you for not coming up with any ideas for some of the events like i asked in my last post. and something we NEED feedback on. it is very difficult to get a good campground in august, as most of them already have reservations, but if we moved into the weeked after labor day, september 10, we could get almost any campground we wanted. if we stick to maryland and keep it out of the higher mountains, it should be plenty warm, but the question is, does anyone think the fact that schools will be in session will be much of an issue for people if we have the event on friday, saturday, and sunday? thanks to everybody, and please don't forgo the opportunity to give us suggestions (especially when we ask for them) peace lonnie :) btw... somebody please forward this to ne-raves and then please send me their address, i've lost it again! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 15:58:41 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Gil Yaker Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Gil Yaker Subject: Hi guys! Hey there...I was wondering if anyone possibly has an extra flyer for Red, if they could mail me a copy.. thanks... digital.druid imagine a world... cyberpun@wam.umd.edu where all the information is shared With four...phonographs, we can compose and perform a quartet for explosive motor, wind, heartbeat, and landslide. --John Cage ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:11:49 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: LEDERJASO@URVAX.URICH.EDU Subject: Re: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory about the mortal combat song: if i heard correctly, it is done by those belgian antler subway guys (the ones behind lords of acid, digital orgasm, channel x, ect ect) so it doesnt surprise me that it would be picked up on in the "mainstream"... the fact thAt the song is in all the sega commercials for mortal combat doesnt hurt either...and i believe that the game company has a promotional deal going with that song as well....so people have been exposed to it a lot, and are requesting it because that's all they know....remember james brown is dead? ;) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 16:25:23 -0400 Reply-To: sparacod@bcvms.bc.edu Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Is it just me? danFREELove writes: But what I was really getting at wasn't the Jazz/Acid Jazz connection but more of a connection to the House -> Techno / Jazz -> Big Band thing. **** ahhh, I see. I think this is an intelligent obeservation, though I can think of at least one difference. Many Jazz fans dislike, even hate bid band or even David Bruebeck because these seemed to homogenize what was a soulful, real sound. Bruebeck in particular has been accused of such, as some have said that his music took something that was historically produced by balcks and gave it to a white, more affluent audience. His music was looked on as less moving and powerful. I think that house fans who don't like techno just don't like the different sound of techno, which is more than alittle different than house. --Dan ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 17:14:56 EST Reply-To: aboulanger@BBN.COM Sender: NE Raves Discussion Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was aboulang@BBN.COM From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Subject: "Cool Jazzy Disco" Boy, I get the feeling that someting is going to happen with jazz getting popular as the new dance thing. I was surfing WWW and found an interesting weekly autosniffer (http://www.cs.washington.edu/homes/pauld/fishnet/) which had the following in a digest. PLUR on the Internet, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com **************************************************************** Cool Jazzy Disco From: ai983@freenet.buffalo.edu (Colin P. Macinnes) THE NEXT BIG THING FEB 1994 F. Machine "...events no longer have any meaning: not because they are insignificant, but because they have been preceded by the models with which their own process can only coincide." - J.Baudrillard Fin, the tender of bar here in one of the rare outposts of cocktail society in the central time zone, really knows how to mix a martini. Second nature I suppose, effortlessly wrapping shots of Tanqueray in a dash of Vermouth and Bitters the way incendiary bombs were covered with pictures of Betty Grable during the BIG ONE. Your brain never knows what hit it. He offers either twists or olives, I recommend the twist - actually a 30 cm. unbroken ribbon of lemon rind tied in a knot at one end to ensure immersion - not that olives don't have their place, William Powell would loath a twist - but tonight is a lemon night - you understand. Never underestimate the importance of a garnish. This is certainly better than a cold bath with someone you dislike. Cocktails, one time totem of the cold-war suburban middle class, are finally coming around again. It is good to see young people with haircuts enjoying a nice martini, all those 70's associations with red shag carpet and Neil Diamond have finally dropped away. Time purifies things. Now when someone mentions a martini, you are more likely to think of second hand Armani ties and Chet Baker. It's enough to make you think things are getting better. But on to the matter at hand, the NEXT BIG THING. I'm not sure my predictions are worth much, in a way I wonder if everything isn't the Next Big Thing. By the time a thing is known as next and big, it is usually neither. To name it is to kill it. Fin thinks I should leave it at that, just tell you that THE NEXT BIG THING has no name and you'll know it when you hear it if you haven't already. Maybe he is right, but then I'd be out of a job - so I'll take my chances. When the king falls, its good to know who is next in line. The current kings are getting old and tired. We need new paradigms. New Romanticism, Hi NRG, House, Acid, Techno, Rave, Manchester, Bliss, New Psychedilia, the revived Ska revival revival, Thrash, Grunge, the list goes on and on. They all have their merits, but by and large our pop idioms are like the Law profession, too many people joining up just because they can't think of anything else to do. Modern music needs to take a cue from Hoagy Carmichael: it needs to drop out of law school and hang around in smokey jazz bars enjoying cocktails and making big plans. In short, we need more COOL JAZZY DISCO, this month's NEXT BIG THING. CJD has been bubbling just below the surface for a quite some time now, with the "Jazz Dance Revolution" that never really made it out of the Camden Ballroom and its recent descendant "Acid Jazz" seemingly doomed to a life of trying too hard. Miles Davis even made his final bow in the direction of Hip Hop, but only ended up compromising both jazz and Dance, sounding more like an old Quincey Jones production than anything fresh and new. Rap continually pushes itself to the edge of Jazz, only to back away and cash in on genitalia references. SOUL II SOUL started cool and jazzy but never lived up to the BIG promise. CJD is nearly tied with Reggae as THE NEXT BIG THING that almost was. But between the beginning of 1994 and the end of 1995 CJD will rise to BIG THING STATUS. Radio stations will format 48 hour CJD weekends, Clubs will set aside Thursday for CJD night, and by 1997 Retro parties will be drenched in nostalgia for that old COOL JAZZY DISCO. Ah, but I'm sounding like a half baked rock journalist -- and I've got a martini to attend to. Scotch and Soda, more on CJD and another NEXT BIG THING, next month - This is Frankie Machine at the Blue Marlin. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 03:33:08 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dan Nicholson <8bit@VLAD.BOWKER.COM> Organization: Bowker Electronic Publishing, New Providence NJ Subject: Re: What to Buy?....WHAT to buy... In-Reply-To: <199402181815.NAA10509@umd5.umd.edu> brendan mcdougall writes: > just some $0.02$ > > for a hard sound on cd try > > artist release > > 3phase schlagenfarm (spelling may be tweaked) > novamute comp. version 1.1 I'd say v1.1 belongs in the 'trance sound' category, wouldn't you? this is hardly hard :) > KADO comp. Strictly for the Hardcore > Harthouse comp. Point of No Return, Chapter 1 > > for a trance sound > > Rising High comp. Trance Injection (taylor did cool artwork!!) > > for an acidy sound > > Orbital (god what is the name; full length cd brown label) > (has halcyon, remind, impact. good stuff, get it) acidy? not totally. there are elements of acid to their music, but i never would think of orbital as being an acid group. they go way beyond acid with the (ahem) lush pads and really out there, beautiful sounds. i'd say their music is 'glistening' :) but of course, it's all subjective > for a groovy sound > > ffrr comp. California Dreaming > Caroline comp. Excursions in Ambience 1 or 2 > Orb Live 93 (too bad you missed the show; > (I like the obvious play with the Pink Floyd Animals > artwork) unfortunately i think Live 93 is a bit much for some people - _I_ love it, but i've played it for some who think it's just too whacked. :-) it's pretty hard to dance to too, which is what comes to mind with the word groovy :) - dan |=|=|=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=\=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=/=|=|=|=|-------------------------- The 8-BIt Collective - Transmission 23 - edrone dan nicholson, Clonor the Other - Finnish Techno Zyndicate 8bit@vlad.bowker.com -=>ICBM volume one available soon!<=- moddan@vlad.bowker.com "This message has been sent out - did you originate it?" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 17:33:54 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Fireman 401 Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Fireman 401 Subject: Re: Info please... In-Reply-To: "" "Re: Info please..." (Feb 25, 8:35pm) On Feb 25, 8:35pm, "" wrote: > Subject: Re: Info please... > Go to techno.stanford.edu and look under chemicals. You'll find plenty > of info there... > > dan >-- End of excerpt from "" Actually, Dan, while there is plenty of info on LSD, 2CB and other drugs there. There is no real info on E. I have a copy of the Ecstasy FAQ, so if you want it, email me and I'll send it. Actually, I might just put it in the incoming directory. peas -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 14:53:26 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: back again and again and again . . . I heard that ALL the Cliff Notes are now available on CD-ROM.... ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 19:53:08 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Michael J Minnich Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Michael J Minnich Subject: Re: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory In-Reply-To: <199402262032.PAA19348@umd5.umd.edu> > Well, as of last night, techo as I knew it, in one aspect, ended. Gimme a break, haven't you ever heard cheeze techno on the radio before? I remember last year when I couldn't turn on our local hiphop/r&b station without hearing 'Sesame's Treet' every five minutes. As for techno hitting the mainstream, I think a more notable milestone is Aphex Twin's 'On' single being played on MTV's 120 Minutes. --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu [Laying the Foundation, Building the House] ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:27:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? I understand what's being said about obnoxious nasty/offensive samples. I got a frankie bones tape a month or so ago and on it was this sample that said "Yo bitch suck my dick". Thought it was pretty offensive especially since rave to me is all about accepting each other and not intentionally offending your ravin' buddies. See ya, Love, Matt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:33:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Is it just me? I just went to an Andean music concert tonight...totally crazy. They were playing all this really fast Central/South American music. I was sitting there wanting so badly to get up and dance my ass off ravie style. I was thinking if soemone played soem of this shit at a rave ,t hat it's go over realy well. The beats were great as well as the treble craziness. It was like natural ravin music. See ya, Love, Matt ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 21:40:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: BADGES???????? Does anyone know what's up with badges......I mailed a couple of weeks back and still haven't gotten a reply. Who's in charge of em? ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 26 Feb 1994 23:00:03 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Citizen Kane Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Citizen Kane Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? I think samples like the one in question are cool. I like any kind of sample that augments a song. /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ \ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land / /IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine Use OS/2, it'll change your life\ \ If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? / /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 00:38:01 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: Is it just me? Someone mentioned "chatting on vrave." What is this, is this an IRC deal? % % %% %%% % % < % %% % % % % % < %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation % % % % % % % < %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 00:46:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: back again. a guy once retorted, BEGIN QUOTE: The people who make non-violent revolution impossible are the same people who make violent revolution inevitable----fight to survive, survive to love. END QUOTE Doesn't this sound like a double-negative? "Non-violent revolution impossible"... means the same as violent re volution possible... means the same as "violent revolution inevitable." % % %% %%% % % < % %% % % % % % < %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation % % % % % % % < % % % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 00:47:30 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: Re: red BEGIN QUOTE BY SOMEONE WITH KNOWLEDGE: Hi folks. I got a peep at the RED flyer last nite and it looks phat; 4 full color pages, kinda like a little book. Darren Emerson (Underworld) and Tin Tin are on it, they're the only DJs that aren't from the Northeast US. Location will be same spot as Yellow in Fitchburg on March 26. Yay... First 1000 flyers arriving in Boston today, look for 'em! END QUOTE Hey where c an I get a flyer! I really am excited about RED and I want to see this! % % %% %%% % % < % %% % % % % % < %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation % % % % % % % < %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 01:46:29 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , drelb Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: "" Subject: further rantings and raves Hm... some things I've been meaning to write about. One. I recently got a really good bargain on "Trance Europe Express." It's a double-CD set import from (where else) Europe, with a variety of European trance bands (naturally). There are 24 songs, each by a different artist (ranging from Black Dog to The Orb to Moody Boyz). In addition, it comes with a 192-page booklet with interviews and reviews regarding each band... plus some other stuff. It's kind of a magazine, I guess. It was a steal at only 20 bux (I had a coupon so it was 17) for all that stuff... the compilation isn't super, but there's good stuff on it and it gives you a great expanse of bands (unlike some other compilations which have four or five songs by the same band). Check it out. Two. I really like the Orb. I am going to buy the domestic Orb 93 and I'm wondering if I should hold out and try to find the import? Is the import available on CD? Is it available at all? Is it more like "U.F.Orb" or "Adventures beyond the Ultraworld?" Three. I'm kind of tired of hearing arguments on NE-Raves... it's not my position to say anything about it, but I just figured I'd make it known. I feel that arguments are fine if they possess factual information that is of some use to those not involved in the argument, but if it's purely personal, then why not settle it direct? Like, if the argument was over whether corn on the cob is better than corn off the cob, or theories on philosophy, or "you suck" "fuck you" arguments, we don't need to hear it. But discussions on pertinent subjects suit me just fine, disagreement or no. Is this a quote? : "it is our differences that unite us/bind us/make us special" (some kind of philosophishit like that). It's just that I pay online time by the minute and i don't need to read about who gets more chicks. Finally, four. This might sound like another complaint, but it's not. A lot of people have been saying that the rave scene is dead, etc. But though I don't have enough experience in the matter to have a valid opinion, I figured I'd throw in my two yen. I don't think it's dead. It's probably totally different from what the vintage ravers remember, but to the rest of us it's still the rave scene. Change is the only certain thing in life, and it happens to everything. I really don't think anything ever really dies. Two things happen. One, it changes to something new, and two, it is kept alive in the mind of those who remember its former state. Hey if you don't like hearing these opinions, let me know, it's just that I get restless after reading the messages and I want to express my feelings, so I go into the free area and write. % % %% %%% % % < % %% % % % % % < %%% % %%%% % %%% < Ambient, Trance, Techno % % % % % % % < Japanese Animation % % % % % % % < %% % %%% % %% < UV Kangaroos Limited (also, does this signature come in good on your terminal emulator's window? If not I'll change it. I kind of like it and it looks good on mine... it's not jagged or broken up or anything...) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 05:01:00 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: back again. In-Reply-To: <9402261533.AA16109@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "danFREELove" at Feb 26, 94 10:31 am Sorry Dan, i don't know what happened with that letter but it was supposed to be a private message. Jeeze i try and reply to a letter by coping it and sending it to the list and it wont accept it. then i send a private letter and it does get sent to the list. sorry dan, i apolagize for it. doug ) ( ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 12:45:33 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Matt Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Matt Subject: Re: techno in the MAIN stream/wellesley Micro rave/Evolution Phactory In-Reply-To: Message of Sat, 26 Feb 1994 12:07:57 -0800 from As far as Evolution Phactory goes, it looks like it's on hold for right now, if not forever. Supposedly only a handful of people were showing up to them after the first one, which was in December, wasn't it? I think I did hear, though, that Balu was doing something in the near future, so be on the lookout for that. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 14:28:50 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , mistress loretta Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: mistress loretta Subject: NYC ravers help! greetings, I am going to be in NYC for three days in march for a journalism conference and would realy like to go out clubbing. If anybody wants to show me the ropes or just suggest some good places to go I would really appriciate it...thanx alo t xx mistress loretta ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 14:18:33 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , danFREELove Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: danFREELove Subject: Registry DJ Service (fwd) Registry: Welcome to a little project of mine. While bumping around the rave scene out here in the North East I have noticed a problem. There are lots of people out there who want to do parties, but they just don't have the resources for them. While I can not help with some of the resources I can help with one that I am quite comfortable with, information. So, I am starting up a small system, Registry, that will attempt to bring under one roof as much information as can be accumulated and disseminate it as efficiently as possible. While the net has been a springing ground for a good amount of information it has yet to be codified and offered up for the rest of the community. I have found that a large proportion of the rave community either can't or won't use computers and the nets. Thus, I am acting as a point of reference to bring some of that information into broader use. The first service of Registry will be the DJ Database. This service is designed for commercial use by promoters, clubs and whomever else has use of it. This is a pay for service. Rates and costs are available by contacting me. The purpose of the DJ Database will be to list as many DJs throughout the US as possible. Lists of DJs will be made available to those interested in the service, then as the promoter wishes I will contact DJs, handle negotiation of fees, scheduling and the other associated details of the deal. While the DJ Database is mainly for DJs I will also be working with anyone else who wishes to work in the rave community, including PA Acts, Lighting Technicians, Sound Technicians, Visuals, Smart Bars, and other concessions people. My aim here is to become a one stop shop for promoters and members of the underground. There will be other services offered by Registry at some future point. These will include a newsletter for Rave Professionals, a party registration scheduler to help promoters from throwing parties on a conflicting date, a free/underground party contact service (offered for free), and whatever else is needed to help this community thrive. If you are a DJ and/or wish to be listed with this service, please contact me directly at anarchy@eng.umd.edu. There is a form at the end of this message for the service that should be completed to be listed. danFREELove "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu --- Okay, this form may seem a bit thorough, but I feel most of the information is necessary. The names, locations, musical styles and history may be printed in a list that will be given to promoters but most other information (phone numbers, fees) will be kept private unless you specifically authorize it's release. When you are done, just mail it back to me and I will mail you back confirming I received it. Name: DJ Name: Address: ----------------------------------------------------------------- CONTACT INFORMATION Times available: Phone Number(s): Home: Office: Pager: Cellphone: Email address: Comments: ----------------------------------------------------------------- TRAVEL INFORMATION Primary Location: State: City: Secondary Location: State: City: Distance willing to travel (include miles range and cities): Do you have your own transport? (Y/N): Will you be able to arrange your own transport? (Y/N): Comments: ----------------------------------------------------------------- DJ AND MUSIC INFORMATION Styles of Music Played: Favorite: Second: Third: Types of mixers you use (own): Types of mixers you prefer to use: Do you spin frequently with a promotional group, at a radio station or club (or have some other professional association)? (Y/N): If yes, which group(s), station(s) and/or club(s)?: Do you have any regularly scheduled dates for which you are definately not available?: Comments: ----------------------------------------------------------------- FEE RATES Normal fee: Lowest acceptable fee: Comments: ----------------------------------------------------------------- FREE PARTIES Available for free parties and undergrounds? (Y/N): Willing to travel at your own cost for free parties? (Y/N): Do you have equipment you are willing to have used at free parties? (Y/N): If yes, what equipment?: Do you mind this information being exchanged with persons wishing to set up free parties? (Y/N): Comments: ----------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 15:30:00 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: The DJ Trax 12" Update Weekly E-publication The DJ Trax 12" Update is posted weekly to the various rave lists but if you would like to receive it directly, please read the following. DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu (John C Avery II) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a manually operated list in which subscribers receive a weekly listing of new house, techno, and hip-hop 12" records that are currently generating response in NYC record stores and clubs. Pertinent label information is also included. (eg. contact names and numbers) To subscribe, send email to jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu with the subject, SUBSCRIBE DJ TRAX. The Update is also archived weekly in the pub/music/dj/dj-trax directory at the techno.stanford.edu ftp site. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu To find out how to subscribe to the DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE, "finger" me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 16:45:30 -0800 Reply-To: rnj%lila@us.oracle.com Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Robert Jesse Subject: The Greening of America upon the recommendation of a trusted advisor, i recently got a copy of *The Greening of America* (Charles A. Reich, Random House, 1970) at a used bookstore and have been taking it in at a slow but steady rate. aside from the infrequent references to artifacts of 60s culture (e.g. bellbottoms) and a few dated points of word usage, this work seems still to have great applicability. following is a sample. the term "Consciousness III" is defined at length earlier in the book; for now you can probably just think of it as the rave mindset/philosophy. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ p 318-321: The task of the new generation is to be the teachers of their fellow men and women, so that the great liberating process of recovery of self, started by our youth, can become the means of liberation for all Americans; and so that the domination of self by false goals and false consciousness may be ended for all Americans. When the self is recovered, the power of the Corporate State will be ended, as miraculously as a kiss breaks a witch's evil enchantment. [...] This task does not demand missionary aggressiveness, zeal, and self-sacrifice. Nothing could be further from the spirit of Consciousness III. The most important *means* of conversion is, and will continue to be, simply living one's own life according to one's own needs. Direct efforts at proselytizing, on the other hand, are all too likely to involve depersonalization and a loss of consciousness for both parties. But without going to that extreme, we have tried to suggest an attitude of openness for the new generation to replace what often has the appearance of hostility toward outsiders and rejection of them. Consciousness III will never convert anyone by abandoning its own life-style in order to become ideologists, pamphleteers, and propagandists. But it can understand the possibilities of conversion in others, and it can live its own life in such a way as to help others to join. To live in this way requires, before anything else, a rejection of hostility - even hostility toward those who are the outspoken opponents of change. Any efforts by the new generation to raise consciousness in others must be accompanied not by a hostile, threatening, or rejecting stance, but by a demonstrated offer of acceptance and affection. We know that the greatest thing holding back most people is fear - fear and the lack of a significant group to join on the other side. If youth presents itself as a closed society, contemptuous of older, "straighter" or less well educated people, those who want to make a change will find that the most crucial encouragement of all is lacking - the promise of support and acceptance bythose who have gone ahead. But when changes that affect their lives as sought for by the radicals of the new generation, there will be the potential for a growth of trust, understanding, appreciation and solidarity between the new generation and the middle class. For the new generation will be visibly helping the middle class, not threatening them. There is already evidence that when young people join hands in a cause that workers understand, they are welcomed. The student radical of today [1970] is all too likely to call policemen "pigs,", to be scornful of "straight" people and "uptight" people, to call right-wingers and George Wallace supporters "fascists," to be harshly critical of his own parenbts and their contemporaries. In doing this, students are reacting naturally to the anger and violence and lack of understanding directed at them, but they are nevertheless making the same mistake as those who are radical or religious bigots. Look again at a "fascist" - tight lipped, tense, crew cut, correctly dressed, church-going, an American flag on his car window, a hostile eye for communists, youth, and blacks, He has had very little of love, or poetry, or music or nature, or joy. He has been dominated by fear. He as been condemned to narrow-minded prejudice, to a self-defeating materialism, to a lonely suspicion of his fellow men. He is angry, envious, bitter, self-hating. He ravages his own environment. He has fled all his life from consciousness and responsibility. He is turned against his own nature; in his agony he has recoiled upon himself. He is what the machine left after it had its way. The task of the new generation is to see the humanity in all men, and to work for the renewal, the rebirth, the return to life, of all men ["people" -rnj]. The new generation must bridge the gap that separates parents from children, and the still greater gaps that separate worker from student, white-collar professional from those who are young and liberated. They must realize that "youth" is not chronological age, but the state of growing, learning, and changing, and that all people must be helped to regain the condition of youth. The new generation must make their revolution by the yeast theory; they must spread their life. Those who have the good fortune to have attained Consciousness III must teach others where their true interests lie - not in getting a promotion, or in fighting communism, but in directions that will enrich their lives. The students may set an example simply by changing their own lives, or they may take jobs in the Establishment and educate from there, or they may fight for particular issues, or create culture; the means are unlimited, but the object must be to reach people. Consciousness III starts with an assumption of responsibility for oneself and one's community; now our young people must take another step and assume responsibility for their parents, their college teachers, their younger brothers and sisters, and on outward into society, to all those who seem to be enemies but are only the deceived, the broken, and the lost. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:24:13 -0500 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , WO AI TAYLOR Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: WO AI TAYLOR Subject: Re: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) I have no idea when I first heard Dominator or The Omen, but I must agree with you that they are amongst my all time favourites... which comes to a question i've been having for awhile.. I had always heard that Joey Beltram WAS program 2... but when I got the new program 2 single, I found that he wasn't listed anywhere as an actual member... was he? or did he just do a mix? Sun(flower) 8 month anniversay @}-`-,-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:07:31 -0400 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Jill Susarrey Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Jill Susarrey Subject: pleasuredome94 I would like more info on raves in the D.C. and Balto. area in general, and specificly on Pleasuredome94. Thank you Jill Susarrey ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:08:25 EDT Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Douglas Zimmerman Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Douglas Zimmerman Subject: Re: pleasuredome94 In-Reply-To: <9402280352.AA17731@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu>; from "Jill Susarrey" at Feb 27, 94 11:07 pm > > I would like more info on raves in the D.C. and Balto. area in general, and > specificly on > Pleasuredome94. Thank you > Jill Susarrey > Jill, For more info on dc/balt related events check out dcraves. address? dcraves@american.edu info on subscribing? dcraves-request@american.edu peace` doug ) ( ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:06:09 PST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Se-Wai Lee Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Se-Wai Lee Subject: Re: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) Yeah, I just got the Program2 single, "Una" and it sounds nothing like the Beltram I'm used to ... it's kinda like breakbeat Deep Forest. It's also on the Sire/Giant label, which I'd never have expected Beltram to sign to. Track listing for those who are curious (on the CD5): 1. Album mix 2. Anu 3. Ghost mix 4. Hollis mix 5. Communication (non-album track) 6. Tempest (UK mix) -- strangely enough, it's not listed on the packaging It's worth the $1.00 I paid for it ... - C.Y. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 23:30:48 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Casper Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Casper Subject: Re: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 27 Feb 94 20:06:09 -0800. <9402280416.AA25957@MIT.EDU> > Yeah, I just got the Program2 single, "Una" and it sounds nothing like > the Beltram I'm used to ... it's kinda like breakbeat Deep Forest. > It's also on the Sire/Giant label, which I'd never have expected > Beltram to sign to. > Track listing for those who are curious (on the CD5): > 1. Album mix > 2. Anu > 3. Ghost mix > 4. Hollis mix > 5. Communication (non-album track) > 6. Tempest (UK mix) -- strangely enough, it's not listed on the packaging > It's worth the $1.00 I paid for it ... > - C.Y. Joey Beltram IMHO is a sell-out......now he's making deep house tracks cause it's the "in" thing......what's up with that? -casper ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:40:56 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: NYC ravers help! Dates????? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:42:29 -0800 Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Edward Potter Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Edward Potter Subject: Re: Registry DJ Service (fwd) SuSuggest you look into setting a WEB server. On the Mac it's a piece of cake. You could have online video, sounds, dates, profiles, etc... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 01:09:53 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , John C Avery II Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: John C Avery II Subject: Re: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) > Date: Sun, 27 Feb 1994 20:24:13 -0500 > From: WO AI TAYLOR > Subject: Re: Joey Beltram (Dominator, The Omen) > which comes to a question i've been having for awhile.. > I had always heard that Joey Beltram WAS program 2... but when I got the > new program 2 single, I found that he wasn't listed anywhere as an actual > member... > was he? or did he just do a mix? Joey Beltram was NEVER Program 2. Program 2 are Gino Lefosse and Victor Calderone, two other members of the Brooklyn Posse so infamously known for the hardest techno (just remember the early F. Bones acidic freestyle stuff) andthe Storm Rave parties. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent by: John C Avery II from Rutgers University, Newark, NJ E-mail: jcavery2@pegasus.rutgers.edu To find out how to subscribe to the DJ TRAX 12" UPDATE, "finger" me ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 08:59:54 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH Subject: TAPES FOR SALE... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---dUb--------------------HERE IS MY COMPLETE COLLECTION--------dUb------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ENGLAND: Techno: -DAVE ANGEL (Live at HYPERSPACE 6/8/93) -COLIN DALE (No 6) -DAVE ANGEL (STUDIO MIX ) -COLIN FAVOR (EMPIRE ACID TEST (9/4/93) -COLIN FAVOR (Live HELTER SKELTER 12/3/93) Brckbeat: -DJ ELLIS DEE (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ SY (Live at HYPERSPACE) -DJ SY (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ SY (Live but where???) -DJ EasyGroove (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ Easy Groove (Live at OBSESSION 1993) -Trevor Rockliffe (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) -DJ Chez Damier (Live at STRINGS OF LIFE) (REESE PROJECT) -DJ Phantasy (No 9) -GROOVERIDER (No 9) -GROOVERIDER (No 6) -GROOVERIDER (No 8) -GROOVERIDER (Live at THE EDGE ) -GROOVERIDER (Live at ECLIPSE) -SLIPMATT (Ultimate in Hardcore 1993) -SLIPMATT/TOPBUZZ (Tribal GAthering) -DJ SEDUCTION (Live at Dance PLANET 1993) -Carl COX (Live At OBSESSION 1993) -RATTY (Dreamdance) -Kenny Ken (Live in LONDON Part 1 & 2) -BUZZ KIRK (Studio MIX) (JUNGLE) -LTJ BUKEM (FANTASIA BIRTHDAY CELEBRATION 1993) -KROME (BOGNOR EMPIRE TRIBAL CONFUSION) (JUNGL) PROGRESSIVE: JOHN DIGWEED GERMANY: Techno: -WESTBAM (Sound of OBSESSION 1993) -Sven VAth (Live in DREAMSCAPE) -Sven VAth (Live in OMEN 1993) -SVEN VATH (HAMBURG COCOS CLUB 1993) -DJ TANITH/THE PRODUCER (Live at UNIVERSE 1993) -MAYDAY 1993 -DJ HELL (No 7) -PCP (FRANKFURT OMEN 1/93) -PAULO (STUDIO TAPE 1993) (GARAGE) -ROLAND CASPER (WAREHOUSE COLOGNE APRIL 1993) -TANITH (MAYDAY 93 JUDGEMENT DAY) -TANITH (UNIVERSE SEP 93) -... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOLLAND Techno -CJ BOLLAND (Live in AMSTERDAM 1993) -CJ BOLLAND (UNIVERSE APRIL 1993) -DANO/Prophet/GIZMO (Studio Mix 1993) -FRANK DE WULF (LEEDS ARK MARCH 93) -... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- SWITZERLAND Techno: -DUB (ANGEL) (Progressive/techno MIX 1994) -TERRORIST (MIX 1993) (Back to the roots) -DUB/TERRORIST (Live GENEVA part 1,2,4 1/14/94) -TERRORIST (SWITZERLAND BURNING 1994) -TERRORIST (EARACHE TERRORISM 1994) -GANGSTA (After HOURS zurich 1993) -GANGSTA (Live BERN 1993) -DJ NOISE (No 1,2 1993) -T-BASS (Live ZURICH ENERGY 1993) -T-BASS (Live DREAMSCAPE 1993) -High-Speed (Dream of love) -DJ Alex P (Live ZURICH OXA 1993) -SACHA (No 29,30) -DJ JEF (Swiss Champion DMC No8 ) -DJ JEF (Live at Le PALAIS 1992) -DJ TEK JAM/X-NTRIX (1993) -WILLOW (Hi-BIAS) (Live BIENNE 1993) -WILLOW (Lots of tapes from him) -LAURENT (Live at ANNECY 1993) -OLIVER (Rita's TAPES No 1,2,3,4 1993) -... Underground: -DJAIMIN (Lots of tapes from him) -WILLOW (" " " " ") -FREE SOUL (No 2) -TERRORIST (Kewl Chewns 1993) -Dj dUb (Dirty-minded Atmosphere) -DJ F.B.I. (VOL 1,2,5 1993) -... BrckBeat: -TERRORIST (MIX 1993) -PSY.CO.BAT (STUDIO TAPE PSY NOO.BIS 1994) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- FRANCE Techno -LAURENT GARNIER (Live at UNIVERSE UK 1993) -BENJAMIN (Live on FG 1993) -MILOCH (Live at Annecy 1993) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ITALY TEchno: -GIANNI PARRINI (Lots of tapes from him) -Roby PARRINO (Live at KU ) -... Underground -GIANNI PARRINI (Lots of tapes from him) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -JAPAN -MICRODOTS (DREAM FM RADIO TAPE ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -SWEDEN -ICE (OBSESSION SANCTUARY APRIL 93) (PROGRESSIVE) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- -AMERICA Techno -JEFF MILLS/EXCESS -LENNY DEE (DREAM LEEDS MARCH 93 / OMEN FRANKFURT) -JOEY BELTRAM (LEEDS ORBIT MAY 93) -JOEY BELTRAM (LEADS ORBIT EVOLUTION DEC 92) ----------------------------------------NEW----------------------------------- ENGLAND: DJ SY (STUDIO MIX ) DJ SY (CORNAWALL WORLD SYSTEM NOV 1993) EASY GROOVE (Live at Helter Skelter) EASY GROOVE (Live at Hyperspace ) SVEN VATH/DAVE ANGEL (Live at UNIVERSE 1993) FABIO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------TAPES RECEIVED--------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -SVEN VATH "2" -DJ HYPERACTIVE (VOL 4&5) -JOEY BELTRAM -JEFF MILLS (RADIO TAPE FG98.2) -DJ EFX -... I'm LOOKING FOR TAPES FROM AMERICA. -DJ FRANKIE BONES -JEFF MILLS -CARL CRAIG -LENNY DEE -other techno/brckbeat DJ HELLO & THANKS TO ALL OF MY FRIENDS WHO HELP ME TO COMPLETE THIS LIST ESPECIALLY :TERRORIST,PSYCHED,DJ SYNERGY (Q-SONIC),JACOB,... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just send a mail and tell me if you wanna trade or buy some tapes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------- dUb - DUBRIT HERVE AT DUBRIT@EIG.UNIGE.CH - dUb --------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 15:42:56 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: FLUR yep fun is essential. How can people here forget it?? and respect = peace i think. psyched ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 16:10:01 WET-DST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , Dave Angel's faN!! Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: Dave Angel's faN!! Subject: Re: Gabberhouse? well, in my opinion, gabber is more noise and simple to create than other music style. Now, in Europe, gabba is less played as 2 years ago, because of the german hardcore who's less bass and more trancy (hey, 303 are better than stupid dutch vocals saying: 'you're a sucker!' :-) psyched - SaY thAnkS tO thE GoD DaVE ANgEL! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 28 Feb 1994 11:09:59 EST Reply-To: NE Raves Discussion , geoffE Sender: NE Raves Discussion From: geoffE Subject: DJ Pierre at The Freight Yard Hey brothers and sisters, For those interested I thought I would tell ya... DJ Pierre of Spooky/Guerilla Records UK will be the guest DJ at "Fathom" at THe Freight Yard, this Friday MArch 4. Directions are below. This past Friday was euphoric. I think the 2 a.m. closing time is almost about to be extended. I have been trying very hard to get the place to stay open until 4 a.m. or beyond and I am very close. I want this so out-of-towners can feel the vibe with us as we unite weekly. For those of you who never took Rave History 101 the whole point people went into warehouses, airplane hangars and open fields was so they could congregate past the normal closing times of clubs. I really want this to happen so join me in this movement. IF you are looking for video projections check out High Rise Group. We had them up on a wall and it was amazing. Fractals abound! I felt like I was spinning at a UK rave. Now all we need are lazers and we are set! It was unfortunate to hear Slurp! is out of commission for awhile. Seems that they have money problems. But check out the new ZOOM. Looks real good. Could use more photos but otherwise the writing was well done. In less than two months I graduate and join the slave labor force. Or do I? Anyone who has any job leads for a journalism major with a 3.3 GPA, computer skills, radio background, desktop publishing skills, and club work it would be greatly appreciated. I want to go to graduate school but could maybe use a job before more headaches, research, and boring lectures. Besides, my thesis this semester is on media comparisons between hippies and ravers. It should be good. In June I am going to San Francisco for three weeks. ANyone who has recommendations please e-mail me as they will be greatly appreciated. My friend Bear(Ursol) is from there so he knows the hot spots but any contacts anyone has would be great. Also, I hear rumours that they hate anything over 110 bpms out there. Can someone verify this? What is the chance a jungle breakbeat DJ could get a gig? Peace. Finally, the lineup for T2+3 will be announced in 2 weeks. Call (610)433-0503 for final details. LAter. Love, geoffe - GSC1@Lehigh.Edu "Fathom" Directions to Allentown - Take Routes 309, I-78 or the Pa. Turnpike to Route 22 Lehigh Valley exit. Take route 22 to the Fullerton Ave. exit. Head south. Make a right onto American Parkway. Bear right. Go through one light. At the second ligh