From ne-raves-owner Sat Nov 27 08:14:31 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 11:16:57 -0400 Subject: Essence IV location Status: Hey gang, Just called the info line, and the location for E-4 is at the Armory, located at the corner of Lexington Ave and East 26th Street. C-ya... From ne-raves-owner Sat Nov 27 09:46:13 1993 From: jetta@rover.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 93 12:45:36 EST Subject: HELP! 2 lost souls need a ride to NYC... Status: Hey-- Is anyone heading down to E4 tonight (and coming back tomorrow, Sunday) from the Boston area? Or passing through the Boston area? Or the Worcester area? Donato (the Worcester man) and I (in Wellesley, 15mi west of Boston) have lost our ride (she has gotten ill :( and doesn't think she can make it tonight) just this morning, so we are without a ride. In a desperate last-minute attempt to go to NYC tonight, can anyone fit us in their car(s)? Pleeeeeaaaaase? :) It would be *much* appreciated. Please e-mail me or call (617) 283-1944. Thanks! wfs Jetta. From ne-raves-owner Sat Nov 27 11:02:12 1993 From: vkuperma@mason1.gmu.edu () Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 14:02:09 -0500 Subject: Demon Time!!! Status: For all those coming to Flesh, be forewarned that the first two hours will be controlled by me (your trusty pyschiatrist) and Dieselboy.... let's hear the ground stomp!! B) Seeya'z there, SSSSSSSSS DDDDDDDDDD SSS DDD DDD SSSSSSSSS DDD DDD SSS ... DDD DDD ... SSSSSSSSS ... DDDDDDDDDD ... From ne-raves-owner Sat Nov 27 12:32:25 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1993 14:43:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Laurent Garnier Status: I saw Laurent last night at Buzz and let me say that those of you who are going to Essence are in for a treat. He played an awesome 4 hour set of the fiercest hard acid / trance. Sort of "light" trance, happier, that is. His mixing was flawless. And it was really cool to watch him, too. He really got into it, jumping up and down to the beat, spreading his arms out and pretending he was flying during the ambient breaks. A very good set, overall. Have fun! And give Garth a hug for me! Sorry there was no ROM this week. I didn't get net access in DC until today. I'm sorry.... :( --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 06:32:03 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 93 09:34:06 -0400 Subject: Essence IV notes Status: Hello, I've returned safely from Essence, and here are a few things I noted: The armory at Lex & 26th was a great place for a party. Nice and dark, so you could actually see all of the lasers. The security people were visible, but not overbearing. I don't think anybody got anything confiscated, did they? My only (minor) complaint was the Port-A-Lavs. By 7 AM this morning, they reeked. >From the Net side of things... Jake, you did a helluva job with the visuals. Whose idea was it to have the name of the DJ display on the screen behind them? It was also nice to meet some more net-ravers, including some from the West Coast. Pre-rave gatherings are a great way to meet people. Musically... Richie Hawtin is the second coming. Damn good stuff. And if he's It, then Laurent Garnier will sit at his right-hand side. I found Garnier's set to be haunting. The other DJs were pretty good, although I missed all of Sameer's and part of M-gee's set while waiting to get inside. I was wee bit disappointed with Garth. The stuff he played last night didn't do a whole lot for me. Maybe it has to do with the fact that everybody says lots of good things about him, so I was expecting more. The sound system crashed in the first third of Kinball Collins' set, but was restored after a few minutes. And finally, Frankie Bones MCing: ugh! Same old "Yo, yo, yo, make some fucking noise!" I like to hear the man spin, not speak. Other anecdotes... As usual, parking took half an hour to find a spot. Does anyone know the official distance you have to stay away from a fire hydrant? And this one really shows my naievte: After getting in the front door, I opened up the backpack to remove my flashlights. A fellow near me appeared to be blowing up a balloon. I walked over to him and said "Good idea," thinking that he was going to sail the balloon over the crowd, much as they do at rock concerts. Thirty seconds later, he called me over. Turns out he was doing nitrous, and offered me a hit. That's it. Looking forward to hearing others' opinions of E-4. C-ya... From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 08:20:10 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 11:03:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Status: I had a great time. I have to say that the only two bad things about this event for me were: I didn't get a backrub The Fire Marshal wouldn't let it start until almost 2 I arrived just as the place was supposed to open and waited outside (where it was still drizzling) for a little bit. Eric (promoter) came outside and readjusted the line so that more people were indoors. He saw me and pulled me into the main, as yet unopened, space. There I got to finally meet Valentin, our friendly neighborhood EAR SPLITTING, DIAMOND HARD, CEREBRAL HEMORRAGE INDUCING, hardcore DJ. After that I spied Jenn and Jason over against a wall setting up the nutrient bar and writing out prices and such on paper. I got to talk to them for a while, and then realized that the next booth over was David Darrow and lovely Rachel. I hadn't expected to see them there, so it was a REALLY pleasant surprise. David had a demo slide of one of the NE Raves PLUR badges. We also talked about an interesting concept. He had designed a Net Ravers logo, and given it a sort of blank appearance, so that each mail list could modify the color scheme a bit to produce an individual lists logo. I thought this was a great concept. Hope it catches on. Anyhow, I hung out for a while, talking to the people I knew who were there and waiting for the doors to open. We finally started a bet up about when the doors would finally open. Jason (Method One) took 2:15, Valentin took 2:30, and I grabbed the 2:00 slot, AND I WON! :) It was great when people finally started flowing in. The music was good, the vibe was great (very little beer, thank goodness). I ran into a bunch of friends and just started having a blast from that point on. I spent most of the night controlling for friend Judy who was candy flipping. It felt great to spend time with her and see a person in such a total state of bliss. Thankfully her happiness rubbed off and I had a smile on my face all night long. Anyhow, around 4 or 5 I finally got to do a little dancing, and hung out with everyone, talking and having a grand time. Here's a short list of who I can remember seeing (this is not complete, I have a horrible memory): Jason (Method One) Mike (Inhuman) Jenn (Jenn-Bug of ZooM) Laura (VA) Damian (dieselBoy) China Valentin (Speed Demon) And-E David (Darrow) Rachel Barbara (Rice) Alby Derrek (DJ Tiffn' E) ITV Melzie (Grooby Coconut) Gill (Digital Druid) Dan 'the forgetful one' "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 09:26:38 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 12:22:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Here come the ladies.. Status: BUZZ: Washington DC Friday Dec 17 is :LADIES NIGHT: DJs: Jacqueline Christie (strictly rhythm) Heather Heart (under one sky) Suz-e Cyclone (Washington DC) & BUZZ DJs: Scott Henry (fever/buzz) Lieven DeGeyndt (musicnow/buzz) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 10:35:02 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 93 13:34:55 EST Subject: December b-day ppl. Status: If you've got a birthday in DECEMBER or JANUARY and would like to be on the Birthday-O-Matic, please send me your b-day info asap... Anything sent to me (received) after November 29, 1993 will not go into the December b-day-o-matic. So this is what I need: b-day (mo/da/yr) real name (optional) net name (if such a name exists) e-mail address Please make sure your e-mail address is valid and not overflowing or anything, too... Thanks-- wfs Jetta. From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 18:36:02 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Sun, 28 Nov 93 21:35:53 EST Subject: ESSENCE:TNG review Status: Hi kids, Here's my obligatory rave report for Essence: The New Generation and the pre-rave dinner gathering that took place before it. Dinner was at Mingala's Village Burmese Restaurant again. As before, there was a great turnout, and we all enjoyed the fine food and each others company. It was nice meeting the old gang again and meeting new folks -- Johnny123, Mykl-G, Liz and Jim, and of course Will-E back from the U.K. We all arrived at a resolution during dinner that the official cybertribe greeting/pass-phrase should be 'MORE GOLDEN TRIANGLES!!' I think I will wear one around my neck next time :^) It was a fairly pleasant night in Manhattan as we walked around after dinner to the subway station. Quite breezy, but not too cold. We emerged from the station and proceeded to the site to find that the line had snaked around the side of the building ... not a great sign, since it was already 11:30 or so. Fortunately the weather was kind, and we all patiently waited around and joked and talked and stuff. JP3 and Mars showed up at the scene and joined the little group a fair while later. Finally we neared the gates of entrance and showed the nice security men our warez ('no weapons allowed in the Palace! off with you!') .. unfortunately they wouldn't let me bring in my camera, but I used the Schwartz and convinced them to let me rewind the film (thanks, I only took 6 pics too :^P). Anyway, formalities done, I proceeded indoors at 1:10 am. Essence: The New Generation was held in The Armoury, Manhattan - a large ware-house type space with massively high arching ceilings, wooden floors, and bleakered balconies for chilling out. The dance- space, as you can imagine, was quite immense. The sound system was equally immense and comfortably loud. I came in on the tail-end of M-Gee's set (I think), and walked around for a while as I always do at a rave, checking out the various stalls, looking for NE-ravers, people-watching, and just generally getting into the groove of things. Jake's Melon Dezign's were up and were most impressive. A very bright green laser was set up and was spraying patterns of light onto the back of the room, playing off the banks of I-beams along the walls. Dave Trance came on next and did a really nice set of dark hard trance and acid for about an hour. And then came the highlight of the evening for me ... Before I even begin, I have two questions: [1] What planet is Laurent Garnier from? [2] What planet are his records from?? Seriously, this fellow was just simply amazing. When his set came on, I felt as if the entire room had been transformed into a planetarium, and we were all dancing our way to the stars .. wow. There is one song in his set that particularly stood out in my mind that I MUST get a hold of soon -- it was a trancey-acidy rendition of the theme-title of 'Dune'. If anyone can help me identify this track, I will be eternally grateful :^) If you all get to hear him anytime, drop what you are doing and GO! He's that good. After about two hours of Garnier, the next DJ on was Ritchie Hawtin. This man's set was equally good, though at that point I had become tired and needed to rest to sort out my deranged brain :^) I thus enjoyed whatever he played from the vantage point on the balcony. It was quite an amazing sight looking down and seeing this throng of people all grooving and dancing to this great music. Micro came on next ... this was around 5:30 or so, I think. At this point I was quite pooped and needed to sleep. I found a more or less dry spot at the back and rolled out some newspapers to catch some Zzzz's. I woke up again at 7:30 to find that pretty much all the NE- ravers had left -- sorry I didn't get to say bye to you :^( I found Bob Baxter after a while, and we left soon afterwards. present: :^) ~~~~~~~~ fish bob robert and linda jim, liz (YSH) mykl-g jp3 tina and taylor steve/fluff-head mars harry chewie phil will fluid fran and friends ed and eileen oz and friend johnny-T-123 not present but missed: :^( ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ed and eileen becca, donato and vanessa joe-fiend debba ps. as for the comments recently about kids at raves, yes - the crowd at E:TNG did seem disproportionately young .. it looked like some of the young-un's were around 11 or 12, as we overheard them outside making up neat stories to tell their parents the next day :^) ps2. the new Under One Sky is out and i got myself a copy from Heather love yaz! O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 19:10:12 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 21:52:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Essence IV: all funked up!! Status: Wowiwe!! Finally made it to NYC thanks to Johnny T and had another super succesful dinner at Mingalas thanks to Fishad and Phil. Then came Essence. It was fabulous to see so many people out (1000+) and I really felt like the family was together again. Saw many people I havent seen in a while - Lonnie and Seth from Ultraworld, Heather from B2B, Mark and Joe from Pawn, AppleJack, Scooter, Tina&Taylor, Oz etc etc. Also got to make some new friends - Johnny T, Mykl G & crew from sfraves, I-Forget-Your-Name from YSH, and Richie Hawtin :). It was great to see everyone having such an amazing time...Adam X and Heather were dancing up a frenzy infront of those bassbins. All the rest of the Djs were just standing around, talking, laughing and having a really good time. Not everyone, however, was part of this as there were a noticably large number of people standing around but upfront, in front of those bins was crazy. Dave Trance played a hard set, not what I am used to from him, but when he layed down the JoyRex J5 I went crazy :) Laurent Garnier was outstanding...some fast, hard trance with flawless mixing. It was also very evident that he was having a good time, waving his fist, jumping around, and bringing a appreciative response from the masses with every new track he layed down. Richie Hawtin was just as good - thinking back now, there was an astounding amount of talent in that building last night. Richie played various material, much of which was based on simple drum rhythms, as can be heard in Spastik from his plastikman EP. Around 5am, sound problems began to occur and though partially fixed, it never was quite the same. Garth came on at 6am and instantly funked things up though the sound system really didnt do him justice. Garth is always so refreshing in the morning, and he always appears to enjoy what he does more than all the other Djs, dancing, jumping, twisting, shouting, and generally goin crazy behind the 1200s. beautiful. Dont wanna say too much more.....just fabulous. Id definately like to come back to this space. Even Frankie didnt really bother me...I was just *too* happy :) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 19:40:41 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 22:40:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: flesh, anyone? Status: ok...at first, the whole idea of flesh seemed a bit iffy...i mean, these were the guys wo did raveland and all that, so their track record wasn't exactly spotless. plus, essence 4 was the same (incredibly rainy) night...hmmm, looks like a possible problem... not a good thing. so, jenn and i get there (finally) to put up the smart bar...i-95 from philly had been utter, complete hell; and our directions were not exactly accurate either. jenn was stressing about being late...this would not be a problem, because flesh started (ahem) TWO hours after it was supposed to, at 2AM. not a good thing, but at least it started. unfortunatly, the first two djs, our own speed demon and dieselBoy, bore the brunt of this delay...translation: they were moved to 8 and 9 in the morning, which, as you all know, is the BEST time to hear hardcore and darkness :P some random notes about the actual event... -first of all, the music was really high quality stuff. since i was tendin' the bar and all, i really couldnt tell you who was spinning when and what. i would love to know who was on at around 5am...whoever it was had some SLAMMIN' breaks that i would love to hear...speaking of slammin' breaks, i direct your attention to the kid in the bowling shirt: yes, dieselBoy's set had me in awe. unfortunatly, by the time he came in (8am) my body couldn't deliver the energy his set desirved, so i just sat down and digged on the tunes. speaking of music, the soundsystem, although crisp, had WAY too much treble... -you want to really sweat during an event? try working the smart bar...yes, we were VERY busy....it was soooooo hot and sticky that jenn, melzie, and my- self were constantly on our feet. an advantage though: the slick floor behind the smart bar was much easier to dance on then the sticky mainfloor. -the laser setup was just wonderful...ooohhhhh...:) -for some reason, it seemed like a lot of people werent dancing...i dont know why, but quite a few people just stood there for most of the night. hmmm... -to china: nice seeing you again! its been too long! -the incredible hugging girl wasnt there :( well, i cant think of too much else to say....big hugs to jenn-bug, danarchy, valentin, china, melzie :), val, mike, chris, uva laura, derek, gil, damian, and all the other netravers i saw there :) -jason/method one >>scene but not herd<< From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 20:46:41 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 21:50:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: ZooM ZinE Status: Ok if anyone is interested in recieving the ZooM newsletter all you have to do is send a check or money order for $2.00 to: jennifer smeddy 306a university place po box 736 kutztown pa 19530 or... If you are going to generation we should have them then for only a dollar at the bar... I would like to _thank_ everyone that helped, that let me use their work and to listen to me bitch and run ideas by you all... If I asked for a review and I did not print it please do not take it personally cause we just had too much stuff to print for this issue.. thank you mike perowitz for your GREAT top ten list...i failed to thank you though in the actual newsletter :( so i will have a great big apology and a recongnion in the next issue.... thanks everyone for your support! Jennifer Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 21:39:11 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 00:38:36 EST Subject: ESSENCE IV review Status: Just wanted to comment on the great time I had at ESSENCE IV & the pre-dinner. AS FOR THE PRE-DINNER I was so hungrey on the way, I kept muttering "Mingala's special". But upon gazing over the lengthy menu, I realized that there...you make your own. For some it was the special consisting of golden triangles, golden triangles, and golden triangles. For others, it was soup & a plate full of culinary variety. AS FOR ESSENCE IV Quite a sensory show and very smoothly run. When the music stopped mid-show, I was left with the question of whether it was a minute of silence or bonafide technical difficulties. Either way I think our ears deserved it. On the heartbeat index, most of the music was fast-paced & perhaps a little more mood release was deserved. On the subject of DJs, I agree with FISHs opinion. Micro & Laurent stood out with a keen awareness for audience metabolic rates. And as Fluid pointed out, Garth did provide a fresh perspective with his unusual selection. The key for me throughout the night was pacing myself. Dancing & then mingling seemed to work well. At a quarter to seven, I was still dancing as the thought of Sunday entered. AS FOR THE WAY HOME I jumped my first turnstile...legally. Fluid & I were on our way out when he lost a bill in the turnstile change machine. I then went up to tell the change attendent that it was broken (so like they could...well...fix it). Puzzled & bewildered, he looked at me and said, "Well just jump over it!" AS FOR THE NE-RAVERS I had fun & met some new faces: fish bob robert and linda jim, liz (YSH) mykl-g jp3 tina and taylor steve/fluff-head mars harry chewie phil will fluid ed and eileen oz fran et. al Cheers! [as I slam a golden triangle d eep into the spicy brown sauce] AS FOR THE YOUNG ONES Age really doesn't make a difference to me. It's how people act. I can't say all old folks sit around all day after meeting eighty-plus-old people who jog, go for higher ed. degrees, and yes, even skydive. Raves were the first place whe re age didn't matter so much. If I were 80 I can't say I'd be much into going to a rock bar because the focus is more on hooking up. But raves, it's more dancing & socialization...which to me is timeless. From ne-raves-owner Sun Nov 28 23:36:42 1993 From: Derek Tiffany Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 02:36:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Generation flyerers... Status: If anyone is willing to flyer for generation...please please please send me your snail-mail address and I'll put some in 2-day mail ASAP...while we've done a pretty good job so far we still have a TON of flyers left... I'd really like to get some up North of Philly...although hopefull we had some up at Essence 4...I also need to TOTALL COVER Wiggle and Buzz on Dec. 3rd...so anyone who is going to be at either of these events LET ME KNOW as I don't know which (if either) I'll be at. I might even be able to offer a little more then my eternal gratitude (though not much) later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 01:37:47 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 04:36:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: algorhythm3 (fwd) Status: Thought y'all might be interested in this.... Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1993 23:45:08 -0500 (EST) From: Kenny Eng To: pb-cle-raves@telerama.pgh.pa.us Subject: algorhythm3 i called up the millenium line and found out that frankie bones will be spinning instead of adam x this saturday because of scheduling conflicts. lenny dee will also be there, as mentioned previously and dj esp. later ken From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 03:38:18 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 06:23:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Review-Flesh Status: Hey there! Welp, starting at 10 AM or so I was getting calls about Flesh.....[so much so that I'm surprised Gil didn't just leave me and head out :) ] So that later that evening when Chuck called back telling me that it was in VA, I was confused....but Peter and I figured it out. [I was just glad that Chuck...a new member to our DC clan, finally got a ride for his group :) ] So I headed out with Gil aka cyberpun aka Digital Druid and my friends Dierdre [who'd never been to a rave, but always heard me blab about how wonderful etc...so she felt like she had to :) ] The weather was terrible, we got a little lost [how many other people ended up on that weird country road with all the holes and bushes?] but finally found the building...with a fireengine out front? well, yeah, I suppose the local friendly fire department was doing checks on the fire safety codes and such...at least while waiting, we ran into Mike [inhuman], Rob, Peter, Derek, Laura, Itv...and I saw an old friend from Balto. So Derek handed out Generation flyers and we waited....for about 2 hours. finlly, at 2 we got in and well, as Gil said, the lighting was too bright! I mean, I like to feel one with the group and one with the night....not be able to even read the expression on everyone's faces. Although as soon as I was in, Philpott brought Valentin up to me, so I got to meet him and then I saw Jen and Jason at the bar [it was fun working with ya'll] so my evening went up from there :) I was VERY dissappointed that I didn't get to hear either Valentin or Damian [was nie to finally meet you :) ] spin...but since like everyone else, I'll be at GENERATION I'll be sure to get to hear them :) My friend ended up to have a kick-ass time [even after the 2 liters of diet coke she drank] and wants to come with me to Generation next weekend. I had a wonderful time, despite having unfortuantly run into my ex, which gave me nasty vibes and that waiting at the begining....otherwie, everything was wonderful, including the breakfast at Toddle House and the ride back :) Another satiated raver, Melzie From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 03:42:30 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 06:38:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: blah, blah, blah Status: Okay folksies, since I'm sure ALL of you are looking forward to GNERATION and WIGGLE 3 next weekend....I thought I'd try to do two HOMs this week to assure rides for everyone. So if you already know whicch events you'd like to go to, please mail me as soon as you can with all the info and I'll put one out Tues, and one out Thursday [after I send the ROM out for DC and UM ravers] HOpefully this'll help. Melzie aka Grooobtress From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 07:03:38 1993 From: athurman@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (allison lafaye turman) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 09:56:56 EST Subject: ****ALLISONS FINAL SCHEDULE!!!*** Status: ok, here is my final schedule: fri, dec 3 - leave atlanta 7:45 pm sat 4 - arrive washington dc 9:28 am thurs 9 - leave washington dc 1:35 pm arrive boston, south station 10:47 pm mon 13 - leave boston, south station 9:05 am arrive new york city, penn station, 1:15 pm leave nyc, penn station, 1:42 pm tues 14 - arrive atlanta, 8:30 am so this is it! and it looks like i will be able to get to generation, so if youre there do look for me - dunno what im wearing yet but i'll be wearing both se and and old style ne badge, and i have short dark hair... c u soon! allison From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 07:09:57 1993 From: Oz Lubling Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 10:09:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: ESSENCE 4! DAMN! Status: OH SHIT! E 4 was incredible. The setting was the armory on 26th and lexington. It had 100 foot ceilings. All the djs, etc were chilling in front of the dj booth. Many different things happened, but I'll stick to the good stuff. Richie Hawtin spun at around 2 am and he was really good. He had some interesting mixes going and people were getting into it. But the man of the night was definitely LAURENT GARNIER. THERE IS NO WORDS THAT COULD POSSIBLEY DESCRIBE WHAT IT FELT LIKE TO EXPERIENCE HIS SET, but I'll try. It was like absolute pure bliss, amazing, un-fucking-believable. I never felt anything like it before. the vibe at the front near the bassbins was so awesome. everyone was so fucking into it. people were freaking out and didn't know what to do. He simply blew the roof of the fucking joint. Even Adam X, Frankie Bones and Jimmy Crash, had to get up from their seats and dance like complete maniacs. They also had that look in their eyes that said, shit I'll never be this good! hehe. I talked to Laurent before and after his set. He was a really cool guy. He seem to enjoy his US visit and hopes to be back soon. His latest project is called Planet House and it will be coming out on FNAC next week. oz From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 08:04:41 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 10:58:56 CST Subject: Re: Tshirt designs (fwd) Status: On Sat, 27 Nov 1993 13:38:16 -0800, Randy Tinkerman wrote: >> >> >what do you say to a name like "neTClan" >> as a black man i would say that the word "Clan" is a very bad idea. it has very negative connotations and brings to mind negative images. btw...this t-shirt thing will never go anywhere until someone just does it. peace. goldenboy. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Forget your name" "Just close your eyes" "Go insane" From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 08:32:06 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 11:27:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Essence IV notes Status: On Sun, 28 Nov 1993, Bob Baxter wrote: > Hello, > > I've returned safely from Essence, and here are a few things I noted: > > The armory at Lex & 26th was a great place for a party. Nice and dark, > so you could actually see all of the lasers. The security people were > visible, but not overbearing. I don't think anybody got anything > confiscated, did they? My only (minor) complaint was the Port-A-Lavs. > By 7 AM this morning, they reeked. > > >From the Net side of things... > Jake, you did a helluva job with the visuals. Whose idea was it to have > the name of the DJ display on the screen behind them? It was also nice > to meet some more net-ravers, including some from the West Coast. > Pre-rave gatherings are a great way to meet people. > > Musically... > Richie Hawtin is the second coming. Damn good stuff. And if he's It, > then Laurent Garnier will sit at his right-hand side. I found Garnier's set > to be haunting. The other DJs were pretty good, although I missed all > of Sameer's and part of M-gee's set while waiting to get inside. I was > wee bit disappointed with Garth. The stuff he played last night didn't > do a whole lot for me. Maybe it has to do with the fact that everybody > says lots of good things about him, so I was expecting more. The sound > system crashed in the first third of Kinball Collins' set, but was > restored after a few minutes. And finally, Frankie Bones MCing: ugh! > Same old "Yo, yo, yo, make some fucking noise!" I like to hear the man > spin, not speak. > > Other anecdotes... > As usual, parking took half an hour to find a spot. Does anyone know > the official distance you have to stay away from a fire hydrant? > And this one really shows my naievte: After getting in the front door, > I opened up the backpack to remove my flashlights. A fellow near me > appeared to be blowing up a balloon. I walked over to him and said > "Good idea," thinking that he was going to sail the balloon over the > crowd, much as they do at rock concerts. Thirty seconds later, he > called me over. Turns out he was doing nitrous, and offered me a hit. > > That's it. Looking forward to hearing others' opinions of E-4. > > C-ya... Ira told me he wanted DJ names so I had to do it! hehe... all the DJ names took about two days to render [they are all 3d raytraced tho you could not see it on the screen =( ].... Anyhow, my screen should have been the size of the cloth but a big screw up on the organizers part prevented me from using it... I was only given 15ft from the projector to the screen and I needed 30 feet for a full size image.... Jake --------------------------------------------------------------------------- MELON DEZIGN MULTIMEDIA Rave/Nightclub Computer Video Projections Live ONLY! No Video Tapes Video Sampling/3D Graphics/Psychedelic Visuals "Not From Concentrate" Visual Aurals/Retinal Stimulation and other melon@access.netaxs.com neat stuff. Not affiliated with MD France. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 09:08:08 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 11:53:46 EST Subject: neTClan not PC? Status: I'm not writing this to piss goldenboy off--I'm just kindof..perplexed. Goldenboy wrote that , "..as a black man i would say that the word 'clan' is a very bad idea. It has a very negative connotations and brings to mind negative images". My question is, does "tribe", as is "Cybertribe", also bring to mind negative images? Just wondering Terence From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 09:09:21 1993 From: FRC93FAH11@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 12:09:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: ne-raves-request@ Status: For over a year I have raved. Still to me I feel that there is more to it. I constantly think of dancing,partying,and the goood and bad times, but still I feel there is more behind this scene then I recieving and would like to know if my derranged head with insane thoughts or am I right Is it truely paridise. Is it escape or plain partying. Is the Gov't secretly behind this scene, testing us, are we guinnee pigs. So people have there circles of friends but should they stay within that circle or expand it to join the circles. IF in anyway you understand and follow these confussing thoughts, please reply. Also I know paranoia strikes hard to . So what the fuck is up. is there a secret. confussed peace. From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 09:47:38 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 12:47:28 EST Subject: December Birthday-O-Matic (BOoM) Status: *************************************************************************** * NE-RAVES/V-RAVE BIRTHDAY-O-MATIC (BOoM) * * December, 1993 * *************************************************************************** 12/10/72 Cindy Kawakami aka Cin kawakami@usfca.edu 12/11/73 Jimmy Lee aka Jimmy Hat soundz@athena.mit.edu 12/12/68 Tareq Alrashid aka TAREQ tma@po.cwru.edu 12/14/74 ebbhead aka ebbhead ebbhead@aol.com 12/15/58 Chris B. aka ccat ccat@netcom.com 12/23/73 Mary Koster aka Sasha sasha@kazak.nmsu.edu 12/24/72 John Adams aka jna jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu 12/25/60 Rob aka Robbie-O rdm@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca 12/26/74 Jessica Owley aka jess jowley@lucy.wellesley.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------------- (cut along the dotted line) OK, so here's the thing...I did receive a bunch of b-days on this account, but (stoopid ELM mailer) they disappeared into a black hole. So, to all of you whom I may have missed, you have my sincerest apologies. JANUARY b-day people: I'll be posting the Jan. b-days around 12/20/93, so please send me your b-days before then in the following format: Birthday (mo/da/yr), Real Name, Net Name, and valid e-mail address (that will be valid on your b-day..hint hint) :) Happy Birthdays & Happy Holidays-- wfs-est Jetta. From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 09:50:57 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 12:45:10 CST Subject: Re: neTClan not PC? Status: On Mon, 29 Nov 93 11:53:46 EST, Terence R. Strick wrote: > > I'm not writing this to piss goldenboy off--I'm just kindof..perplexed. >Goldenboy wrote that , "..as a black man i would say that the word 'clan' is >a very bad idea. It has a very negative connotations and brings to mind >negative images". My question is, does "tribe", as is "Cybertribe", also >bring to mind negative images? > let see if i can explain... Clan == Klu Klux Klan Tribe == American Indian +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Forget your name" "Just close your eyes" "Go insane" From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 10:05:38 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 13:03:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Essence IV Status: Well, needless to say, I _sort_ of made it. We left my friend Tony's house at 9:00 (I don't have a car, he does). He decided to bring his girlfriend. Traffic in the village was horrendous, we didn't make it off the Henry Hudson Parkway until after 9:45. Trying to get to the restaurant, we managed to get within 5 blocks of the place around 10:15. Realizing the futility of parking and going to the restaurant at this time when I figured everybody would be gone, we headed over to the Location. We did a drive by before we parked, and already the line was up to the second door(with the security guys standing). :( We parked on 23rd Street, 2 blocks up, with no problem.(there were another 15 spots available, all untaken) We got on line around 10:45. By 11:00 Tony's girlfriend was already complaining about the cold.(I didn't even bring my jacket, I didn't want to lug it around. Ironic note: While waiting on line, trying to find other ne-ravers, Jake walked by. I never met him, but he had some badges on, and until he walked away I didn't realise that they read 'melon-Design'. :( I didn't want to run him down like and idiot, since he had never met me. Did anybody else see the guy with the purple scarf and the shaved head? He kept on coming bye hitting cigarretes off of people and talking about x and acid. By 12:15, we had _just_ got around the corner of the building onto Lexington ave. Rays pizza across the street was doing _good_ business. :) Tony's girlfriend gave us an ultimatum: 12:30 if we are not in, she wanted to leave. He agreed. I was willing to stand outside until 2 am, I _really_ wanted to go in. needless to say, 12:30 came around and we had only moved 10 feet. I couldn't stay, i had no way of getting home, and I really didn't want to be there alone. When we walked by the front door on the way back to the car, we also saw how the line ran all the way inside the building. :( I would have waited forever, the people on line were great. Two girls behind me on line fed me and gave me juice while my friend and his girlfriend went to eat pizza _insids_ ray's pizza, leaving me on line in the cold. Thanks Girls, whoever you are. Oh well, there will be others, and I am glad everybody had a good time. Talk to you later.... -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 10:34:04 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 13:28:24 CST Subject: non rave related Status: hey...i'm in need of a used 35mm camera...non automated...the manual kind... if anyone has one and is willing to sell...e-mail me...sorry to bother anyone else (standard disclaimer) peace. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu "Forget your name" "Just close your eyes" "Go insane" From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 10:48:27 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 13:48:21 EST Subject: E4: additional comments Status: First let me preface this by saying that I had a great time at Essence, especially at seeing all the net ravers who I either hadn't seen in months or had never met before. I broke my "no more than $12" rule and went anyway. I'm only supplementing the comments other people have or haven't made. I really liked what we got to hear of M-Gee's set. When we finally got to the dancefloor after waiting outside for an hour and a half to get in, he was spinning upbeat underground housey trance which we really didn't get to hear much of for the rest of the night. I was told Ritchie Hawtin had played that kind of a set the pervious couple of gigs this week but he didn't until the end of his set. Laurent Garnier was wicked though I recognized some records I own being played at a very fast pitch. Speaking of fast, Dave Trance was well into his hard trance which came as a surprise, as was Micro! In fact, I would say that for the most part we got a mega-dose of hard trance and hardly any acid or soft/slower trance. I like hard & fast but when it's accompanied with liberal amounts of a 303 (an acid box)... or even several 303s! :) Cheers to Jake for a great job on the visuals. I liked: the DJ's name listed on the screen, some of the animated images, and the visual beat matching. Well done! The speaker stack was set up at one end of the huge arena which left the rest of the building drowning in echo. On top of that, the high end was all over the place and after the middle of the night, with some technical difficulties, the bass kept dropping out for extended periods of time which they didn't seem to fix properly for the rest of the night. I was really looking forward to Garth's set and I liked what I heard for the most part but I had already lost the vibe somewhat. Except for the few people I knew and met, I can't say much for the want-to-be-so-fabulous NY club crowd. I must say that for $18, I didn't get my money's worth. Especially considering there were a couple of thousand people there. An extra couple of speakers in the back would have probably done a lot for the terrible acoustics in that place. Also, water should be free. Although we found several water pipes running throughout the building, it seems they locked up all the toilets and sinks with not a water fountain in sight. Luckily we brought some water with us and their (small) bottles were $1. There was no chill out space unless you went up to the bleachers which if you were trying to escape the sound, only sounded worse up there. With the echoing bass and the distortion, it was like an airplane engine was running inside. We joked about the rumble and how it felt like we were on a spaceship. With *little* thought, Fran found an area that would have been suitable to turn into a chill out room. Generally I find that the less I spend, the better it is *overall*; especially when it's free like most renegade parties. So call me a critical bastard if you must but I had a good time anyway and that's what counts no? ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 10:49:55 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 13:45:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: neTClan not PC? Status: On Mon, 29 Nov 1993, Terence R. Strick wrote: > > I'm not writing this to piss goldenboy off--I'm just kindof..perplexed. > Goldenboy wrote that , "..as a black man i would say that the word 'clan' is > a very bad idea. It has a very negative connotations and brings to mind > negative images". > > Just wondering Well, I really thought that I would not get involved with the "t-shirt" post thing but....oh well...I also belive that the "netclan" idea brings negative images to mind....even being a white female....anyone else?? Peace Love and Unity, Jennifer Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 11:12:38 1993 From: damian@cislabs.pitt.edu (Prince of Darkness) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 14:12:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: CASPER REVISITED Status: Hello, just thought i would tie up a loose end from my old *casper* post. a few days ago i received a letter from greg lancelot, the guy that casper's promoter (mike regan) brought in to help him organize the event. greg ended up doing almost everything in the end so it seemed. included in the letter was a personal check from greg containing the rest of the money that they owed me. greg is good to his word. also, had a great time seeing everyone at flesh. sorry that so many of you missed my set, but that's what happens when they schedule you for 8am. sigh. hope to see all you rumpshakers at GENERATION. should prove to be incredibly memorable. dieselBoy --------- enphorcer ps - see 'carlitos way'. good movie. From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 11:13:43 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 14:08:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Essence IV Status: Oh yea... after like an hour and a half of HARD WORK trying to install my screen I went out on the corner to get pizza [I met MARS on the way back]... Shame you didnt stop me to say hi! [BTW I keep looking for NE Raves badges but so far the ONLY ONE that I EVER saw was MARS's badge... seems like nobody wears them!] Next time you see me YELL and scream! Jake From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 11:32:58 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 14:32:31 EST Subject: E4 Ramblings Status: I waited in line for at least an hour and a half (haven't seen lines that bad since Sept. Storm). Got in around the middle of Dave Trance's set (missed 333 and others(?)). Dave Trance spun some great HARD acid trance and the like. I haven't heard him spin in a while. Nice set. Richie Hawtin was next. For all the hype and his great work on vinyl, was quite a disappointment. His set started out nice, but stayed rather dull and uninspiring with a surprisingly heavy housy feel and influence to it. Too bad, I was expecting Acid Trance that would make me melt in front of the speakers. Laurent Garnier, on the other hand, was magical. He spun golden waves of absolutely beautiful hard trance around the crowd. At points when I could stand to open my eyes, the crowd was glowing. It's really wonderful to have felt that feeling at a rave again. Micro played a nice trancy set. I wouldn't exactly call it tremendous, but he did follow Garnier nicely. He's still pretty consistently ravey sounding in his style however. Kimball Collins was the second treat of the night. To tell you the truth, I was expecting breaks with him being from FL and all (just a bad generalization). He turned out to spin a brilliant set of medium to hard acid trance/acid house. It was really really really good. Some way through his set the sound went out and stayed out for a good 5 minutes or so. He was just getting the energy moving when it went out too. BUT... he came back confidently, with a good attitude, and a super strong set that seemed to last for AT LEAST another hour. It was really fantastic. Then... Garth came on. One of the biggest vibe-kills I've ever felt. Of course, by now, you all know my musical taste and your mileage may vary, but uggh. Talk about blah. I can only describe that music with that word, BLAH. We were wound up and Up and UP with ENERGETIC TRANCE and then, blah... I spent that time walking around and checking the place out (until then I was pressed firmly against the speaker stacks by the DJ table). I left shortly after 7am. I must say that it was a nice rave. As an avid supporter of small parties (and usual basher of BIG RAVES ;)), I had a really good time. My dream sound system was there and -it- -was- -FUCKING- --LOUD-- and clean. The $18 ticket price was well worth the Garnier/Collins sets through that sound system, easily. dave. From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 12:01:03 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 14:58:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: neTClan not PC? Status: On Mon, 29 Nov 1993, Terence R. Strick wrote: > > I'm not writing this to piss goldenboy off--I'm just kindof..perplexed. > Goldenboy wrote that , "..as a black man i would say that the word 'clan' is > a very bad idea. It has a very negative connotations and brings to mind > negative images". My question is, does "tribe", as is "Cybertribe", also > bring to mind negative images? > > Just wondering > > Terence Well Terence to answer your question, no it doesn't. CyberTribe does not have the negative conotations of CyberClan or NetMob or such. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 12:05:52 1993 From: "yer moms calls me SugarDaddy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 15:04:18 -0500 Subject: song id's.. Status: 1) house. begins with "in my house.." you know the one.. 2) house. has samples that sound like "jungle lie" or something... you know the one :) 3) house. just spoken word, i think.. has a man saying things like, "we are all equal..in *our* house!" and "the 2nd most popular game children play is *house*..so we're going to play *house*!" stuff like that.. you know the one :) please help me out and i'll give you a million bucks. (note: this means i will be kneeing you in the rump a million times..) :) chris "What you take in by visionary experience you must give out by love and intelligence in daily life." -aldous huxley to albert hofmann From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 13:06:29 1993 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 15:35:47 EST Subject: Re: CASPER REVISITED Status: Cybertribe: > >dieselBoy >--------- >enphorcer > wrote: >ps - see 'carlitos way'. good movie. > Jenn-bug and Mars also recommend it. A cool flick. peace out, Mars From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 13:29:03 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 16:25:58 -0500 Subject: Re: One final shirt message.. Status: >I am going to start working on the 'official' Net Ravers shirt project. >I will not be in charge of production or ordering, I am simply going to >organize the people who really want to be involved in the project I just got this before Ileft for vacation Wednesday and wasn't able to respond till now. Is this really true?! Is the T-SHIRT actually going somewhere?! I haven't read any posts challenging this so far, so if this is the case then I say GO DAN GO!!! Thank we might actually get a T-shirt now. HURRAH!! =) ___ (:)=====/__/\=(:)(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email & telephone: |=| |\| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |=| _\_ \ __/\||=| Government Dept. |\| (607) 256-1932 |=| |\| / /\ \ \ |=|(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=|/ / /__\/ |\||\| "Christ died for our sins. Dare we make his |\| |\/__/ \ |=||=| martyrdom meaningless by not committing them?" |=| |=\__\/\ \ |\||\| -Jules Feiffer |\| (:)==\__\/====(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LETTER T AND THE NUMBER 7 From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 13:40:56 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 16:37:52 -0500 Subject: Ride to Generation? Status: I don't suppose anyone could give me a lift to Generation from the upstate NY area (i'm in Ithaca right now)? I would even be willing to take a bus down to NYC and then go from there so if anyone from either area could give me a ride, please email to me soon. It'll probably be just me and a friend, but may be three of us. ___ (:)=====/__/\=(:)(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email & telephone: |=| |\| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |=| _\_ \ __/\||=| Government Dept. |\| (607) 256-1932 |=| |\| / /\ \ \ |=|(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=|/ / /__\/ |\||\| "Christ died for our sins. Dare we make his |\| |\/__/ \ |=||=| martyrdom meaningless by not committing them?" |=| |=\__\/\ \ |\||\| -Jules Feiffer |\| (:)==\__\/====(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE LETTER T AND THE NUMBER 7 From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 14:13:04 1993 From: Daniel J Nadeau Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 17:10:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jonas and Christina Status: I just got back to school from Thanksgiving break and was catching up on my e-mail when I came across the awful news. Since becoming an ne-raver, I have only met four other net ravers: Sprockett, Jonas, Christina, and DJ Entox. I am deeply saddened to know that I will never see two of these people ever again. Dan From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 14:40:39 1993 From: TINA LOVES TAYLOR Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 17:42 EST Subject: more and the same on E4 Status: As with everyone else, I agree that Laurent Garnier's set was amazing- after walking all day friday and saturday shopping and whatnot- I found it difficult to dance, but his set was incredible and kept me moving. Micro gets the thumbs up for playing a track from one of my fave bands- Transformer 2 (though not my fave track from them) and a couple other oldies and near oldies... a nice flash back :) I still think someone should do a nostalgia set from around summer-fall 91... most of my fave tracks are from that era... but anyhow... yes, the line was incredibly long- Taylor and I went to Ray's (surprise surprise) and when we finished, it seemed like our friends hadn't moved an inch! The space was perfect- and the lighting and visuals- that argon laser was mesmerizing... especially from the balcony- it hit the wall right above my head and if I stood up I could touch it :) I heard there was around 4000 peole there (I think...) and Frankie Bone's ( finally got to hear his rantings andravings) toted E4 as the largest East coast rave ever. Now I see why you all complain about his MCing :) For a little guy, he's got a big mouth :) I liked the idea of having the DJ name presented before and during their sets... up until now I had no clue who was who... however doing so coupled with FB's incessant jabber made it seem like I was at a variety show of sorts... I would have preferred it if the music was continuous- no breaks between sets- gratitude for the dj's is fine by me- it's hard work and they deserve recognition- it's just that I'm used to the dj's being faceless as well as the artists. Is this a recent phenomenon? I've haven't been to too many raves to know if this has been happening all along.. I first noticed it at Casper- certain dj's (I guess the famous ones) would be announced as their sets began. Anyhow- E4 ranks high on my list- one because of garnier's set, two because of teh space three because of the lights and visuals, four because I got to see friends I haven't seen in ages, and five- you guessed it- t 8 0 8. :) sun(flower) From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 16:06:29 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 19:05:55 -0500 Subject: amherst area Status: Are there any ravers/technos on this net from Amherst area? (UMASS, Smith, Amherst College, Hampshire College, Mount Holyoke). I tried this once before and got a few responses, but silly me lost the addresses. 'chia' jim PS if there are any Boston "tribes" that would like to send info on there area, there are a couple of amherstites who are considering tripping on up there :) pps, finger slipped... "there" should be "their" From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 16:49:30 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 19:49:20 EST Subject: ne-raves-request@ (fwd) Status: > > For over a year I have raved. Still to me I feel that there is more to > it. I constantly think of dancing,partying,and the goood and bad times, > but still I feel there is more behind this scene then I recieving and > would like to know if my derranged head with insane thoughts or am I right > Is it truely paridise. Is it escape or plain partying. Is the Gov't > secretly behind this scene, testing us, are we guinnee pigs. > So people have there circles of friends but should they stay within > that circle or expand it to join the circles. IF in anyway you understand > and follow these confussing thoughts, please reply. Also I know paranoia > strikes hard to . So what the fuck is up. > is there a secret. > confussed peace. > it's all a great evil sick joke made by the entertainment industry to sell us rave warez :) beer doesn't have that under-21 appeal, so they have to look somewhere to target us right? :) :) :) seriously though ... don't be so paranoid .. just enjoy the party, and if any good comes from it, all the better. you didn't leave your name, otherwise i would welcome you to the cybertribe. see ya! O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 17:12:52 1993 From: Amnon Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 20:09:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Status: Hi, I'm rather new to this whole computer net thang, so pardon my ignorance if say, half of my message is erased or something equally horrible... Anyhow, has anyone heard any info on Synergy, to happen in NYC on Jan. 15? I have two friends coming in to town (Boston) around then and they would like to check out the East Coast scene. Thanks in advance for any info :) SEEEYA Amnon _____ |\ | __ __ ____ (_____ | \ | (__) (__) |____) | | _____) | \| | |____| | | ________________________________________| GOD OF GROOVE AND HERO OF THE HAPPYPEOPLE From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 17:30:10 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 20:29:29 EST Subject: ROM stuff Status: Ultraworld Presents R E S O L U T I O N Friday December 31, 1993 New Year's Eve $20.00 US 333 WINK MICRO DJSUN JASON JINX SCOTT HENRY DAVE TRANCE LEIVEN DeGEYNDT WHO M-GEE SAMEER RYDE ONIONZ TOM T 12 hours of high energy GYROBIX techno tribal breakbeat MOONBOUNCE trance and hard acid SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE 2 lasers, giant screen GIANT VIDEO GAMES projection by ENO-ONE -- MELON DEZIGN 9 hours of ambient bliss to space your head featuring film lasers projections by projections by P.A.W.N DOUBLE HELIX oblivion Ambient DJ's - wash, entity, john hicks, wordmosesripple and a special live performance by THE ALMIGHTY SENATORS smart bar by neuro-energy drink the water juice bar advance tickets on sale from dec 6th from: modern music balto 410.523.1882 open till 10:30 pm on 12/31 music now DC 202.638.1213 " " 9:30 pm on " loaded nyc 212.533.8463 call for hours 611 records philly 215.413.9100 call for hours checkered past harrisburg 717.561.8898 call for hours eddie van raven long island 516.925.2546 (pager, enter code 94) dezel boston 617.541.4258 bus trips: maine simon 207.871.8216 manhattan mello 212.631.4290 nh/vt nikki b 603.437.7795 nj/ny e-force 201.295.1925 vt mothership 802.860.7545 nj scooter 212.631.1033 connecticut warped 203.454.6643 philly thc 215.923.433 boston desel 617.541.4258 delaware zenith 302.764.9272 albany big dipper 518.465.6381 cleveland funky gizmos 216.238.1451 long island kort and greg 516.581.5426 richmond trance-fused 804.768.2000 montreal dna 514.854.6446 brooklyn dennis the menace 718.375.1954 call 410.880.7031 to find out about many additions to this list. call 410.522.6933 if you want to organize a bus or buy your ticket at the door ($25.00) .. here are the directions take 95 to baltimore. at the balto beltway (695) go west towards towson. take exit 34 - 83 north to timonium, get off at exit 16 east..timonium rd. cross the railroad tracks make a left into the first entrance, you can't miss it! admission: $20 in advance $25 at the door bus trips vary this event will reach capacity .. get your ticket early :) doors open 9:00 pm. after hours begins at 10:00 am, Sunday. DJ's T.B.A. MAIN INFO LINE: 410.880.7031 updates, communications, suggestions about the space: 37000 sq ft in 3 rooms, super-high ceilings, smooth clean dance floor, bathrooms like a YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER stadium, lit parking lot right in front, TO ENTER!!!!!! coat check, pay phones, A/C or heat on demand (wow!) .. 100 RAVE guaranteed :) merchants welcome: call 410.522.6933 for info Fresh Media 410.522.6933 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ T E C H N O P H E L I A BAUHAUZ and the Long Island Underground present Technophelia, 12.4.93 10:30 pm to Noon $10 cover Featuring: DAVE TRANCE DNA JIMMY CRASH DJ LUIS K5 MICRO SAMEER SAM I AM with live performances by: ATOMIC BABIES DIVINITY QUIXOTIC and other special guests INFORMATION: 516.424.9432 516.435.0551 promotions by: Curious George, Dennis the Menace, Eddie Van Raven, Fred Strong, Quixotic (Alejandro, Lisette, Rolando), Super Mario, TWR, X-man [Personal Plug by FiSH: the last party these folks threw was really pretty good though it did get shut down a little early -- around 6:00 am due to noise complaints. the Technophelia organizers were really nice folks, and the security folks were the pleasant type I ever had to deal with :) come if you dare :) i can't make it to Generation :^( but I think this will be quite a lot of fun if you live around the NY area and can afford a hop out to Long Island] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ P U L S E new york city techno tribal trance every friday shockwave: dec 3, 1993 10pm - 6am resident dj's: special guests: joeski, on-e, bob bentley the return of frankie bones Micro and introducing D'Julz Smart bar and Jolt Cola Special ambient opening set by astralwerks DJ Reese info: special promotions by Mello and Scooter Cd and record giveaways from Astralwerks phones: pulse: 212.230.8282 mello: 212.631.4290 scooter:212.631.1033 or 201.927.2292 location: 27 W 24th st between 5th and 6th avenue admission: $10.00 with invite $12.00 without --------------------------------------------------------------------------- O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 18:01:51 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 20:56:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: FREE TERMINALS Status: I just picked up 6 IBM terminals [Model 1 Display Station] with keyboards, monitor and keys...3 of them are with keys ... so at least 3 will work, if not you just use the other 3 for spare parts. Maybe someone can use them to set up VRAVEs etc.. e-mail me if you want them... Jake --------------------------------------------------------------------------- MELON DEZIGN MULTIMEDIA Rave/Nightclub Computer Video Projections Live ONLY! No Video Tapes Video Sampling/3D Graphics/Psychedelic Visuals "Not From Concentrate" Visual Aurals/Retinal Stimulation and other melon@access.netaxs.com neat stuff. Not affiliated with MD France. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 18:42:43 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 21:42:34 EST Subject: welcome Amnon Status: > > > Hi, I'm rather new to this whole computer net thang, so pardon my ignorance > if say, half of my message is erased or something equally horrible... > > GOD OF GROOVE AND HERO OF THE HAPPYPEOPLE Hello and welcome to the Cybertribe, Amnon ... I found a little 2x2 b&w flyer thingie at Essence4: [Inhuman, wanna Rom this also please? thanks] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- S Y N E R G Y combined energy .. united force .. an oracle production .. january 15 1994 information: 212.631.3614 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- and that's all :) (i told you it was only 2x2" :) take care and happy holiday season! O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 18:45:46 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 21:45:36 EST Subject: RE: Resolution addition Status: > > Lonnie confirmed the RETINAL BLOWJOB LightShow for this event and as its too > late to put us on the flier, it'd be very cool if you could put our name > on the email ads........Jonathan Evans > > got that everyone? inhuman? -- O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 19:49:53 1993 From: Francis L Sibilla Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 22:47:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 2 NE-RAVERS KILLED IN FREAK AIRPLANE CRASH Status: I heard about the unusual plane crash on the news last wednesday and it stuck in my mind. The next day stephen (boy prince albert) told me that two ne-ravers were on the plane. Many of us on this mailing list are very young so death is not something that we think about too frequently. I think we can all learn even from the most negative situations - Death abruptly puts things in perspective. It motivates us to realize how valuable our friends and family are - and the importance of the support of the different communities in our lives. Unfortunately, I never had a chance to meet Jonas and Christina, but I think those of us who didn't should think about someone we are close to and imagine what it would be like if we lost that person. Maybe it could motivate us to get over some of the silly things that come between people in everyday life. Just some of my thoughts on their death. Just some suggestions for responses are to collect the responses on here and give them to the families - showing our concern. I think the booth idea for generation is a good gesture. And I think that a good way to note their loss would be a period of silence on v-rave. Fran From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 19:50:01 1993 From: WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu Date: 29 Nov 1993 22:49:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: ??? Status: the best thing about a rave is the unity... when you can feel the vibe! :) From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 20:04:19 1993 From: "G.A. Campbell" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 23:01:44 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Smartdrinks Status: Could anyone inform me how to get my hands on some smart drink mix? I would like to get some but have no clue with regards to sources and cost. Any help on this matter would be much appreciated. Gary (dante/mcmaster) (insert your own picogram here) From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 20:23:08 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 23:22:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: 2 NE-RAVERS KILLED IN FREAK AIRPLANE CRASH Status: Frans idea for " a moment of silence on vrave" sounds like an excellent idea... so how about it??? Peace Love and Unity, Jennifer Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 20:41:32 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 23:41:23 -0500 Subject: unfortunate accident Status: i just started getting the posts about the accident, as i only resubscribed to the list recently i never saw the original post...if someone has i copy, id appreciate it if they could fwd it to me...thanks. peace, hossam ps- its good to be back...:) -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 20:43:48 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 23:41:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Smartdrinks Status: On Mon, 29 Nov 1993, G.A. Campbell wrote: > Could anyone inform me how to get my hands on some smart drink > mix? I would like to get some but have no clue with regards to sources > and cost. Any help on this matter would be much appreciated. > > Gary (dante/mcmaster) > > (insert your own picogram here) > > My suggestion is do it soon, the hearings on legislation to make smart drink mix and such ingredients illegal withour prescription if coming to a close sometime soon. (Read it on mw-raves) Joe From ne-raves-owner Mon Nov 29 20:56:59 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 23:56:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Smartdrinks Status: On Mon, 29 Nov 1993, Joe LeSesne wrote: > My suggestion is do it soon, the hearings on legislation to make smart > drink mix and such ingredients illegal withour prescription if coming to a > close sometime soon. (Read it on mw-raves) > Joe > > > where did you hear this!!!! sould i stock up now??? send me the post if you still have it ok?? thanks jennifer smeddy From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 04:02:06 1993 From: Citizen_Kane@Nathan-Tableman.Umeres.Maine.Edu Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 06:57:07 EST Subject: The ORB on ECHOES Status: A while ago I posted something about a Public Radio show of the ORB, well the tapes are available from the radio show for a VERY nominal fee. Contact ECHOES at the well. This is on the net. ECHOES@WELL.SF.CA.US ok? cool! /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine U.S.A. If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? \=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/ From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 06:04:09 1993 From: brendan mcdougall Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 09:05:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Smartdrinks Status: Hi, I like Chris Beaumont's mixes the best. they're bass, know what i'm saying :) I like his ReNew You and Intellex mixes. Last I heard, he was working on a new mix and had a special on Intellex. You can contact him at ccat@netcom.com to get a list of prices and snail mail address. (Hey Chris, if you read this would you post your available mixes and prices--thanks) Brendan From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 07:30:38 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 10:30:11 EST Subject: DJ Listings Status: Recently there's been an increase in the number of queries of dj styles on the list. Laura originally put this list out around this time last year and many of you may remember it. I've updated it a little, but there's PLENTY of room for more info and updated info. Please pass any corrections/additions to myself and I'll periodically resend it to the list. Thanks dave. ------------------------NE-RAVES--KNOWN--DJ--LIST----------------------------- DJ Home Base Usual Style Also Spins -- --------- ----------- ---------- 333 Boston/London house/trance house Adam X Brooklyn hard acid trance hardcore Anthony Scott DC Armand Chicago acid house Art Vader Bob Bentley England hard trance trance Bobble Boy Blake Damon Wild hardcore trance Dan DC New Jersey Dante New York City house Dave the Wave New Haven hard trance Dave Trance Long Island-Caffiene trance hard acid Dayz-X-One New Jersey hardcore hard trance Debo Boston-Venus/Axis club/rave housy trance Denard New York-Primal acid house trance dieselBoy Pittsburgh breakbeat DJ Freshco New Jersey DJ Reese New York-Primal DJ Say DC Frankie Bones Brooklyn hard trance/house hardcore Frankie Hartung DC Garth San Fransisco house/rave Heather Heather Brooklyn trance/acid hardcore Jacquelyn Christine New York-Primal various hardcore James Christian New York-Primal house trance Jason Jinx Philadelphia Jeff Mills Detroit hardcore trance Jerry Jam Jimmy Crash Brooklyn oldies/trance hardcore john27 hardcore John Leonardo Josh Wink Philadelphia house/trance trance Keoki NYC-Limelight club/rave trance Kimball Collins Orlando, FL trance Laura New Jersey hard trance hardcore Laurent Garnier Paris, France trance more trance Lenny Dee Brooklyn hardcore more hardcore Leo Anabaldi Rome, Italy trance acid trance LG Lieven Degeyndt DC Mario Genovese Brooklyn hardcore Mayhem Boston-The Loft house hard house M-Gee Boston/London house Michael Meachum DC-Fifth Column Micro Long Island-Caffiene hardcore hard trance/rave Micro-Chip Microdot trance ambient Mr. Kleen NYC-NASA trance MTL acid house hardcore Mundy Nigel Richards hardcore trance On-E New York-Liquid Sky breakbeat trance Onionz New York/Boston house trance OPM DC Oshin Providence hard house hard trance Overload Maine breakbeat/house trance Prom Boy New Jersey Ralphie Dee New York hardcore Repete New York-Limelight hardcore acid house Ryde LI hard house Sameer LI house Sava Boston hardcore house Scott Henry DC Scott Richmond Poughkeepsie trance hardcore Spike New Jersey Spy New York/Disintigrator hardcore trance Suz-E Cyclone Baltimore hardcore Thomas San Francisco house/rave Tim Ryan Boston-Venus trance Trophosphere house/trance Wash Baltimore From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 07:44:18 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 10:31:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: TERMINALS AGAIN Status: I got more mail regarding those terminals than what I expected... anyhow; these are the 3180 IBM Terminals. DUMB TERMINALS. You cannot just use them without beeing connected to a mainframe or whatever. Those terminals by themselves are completely useless. I just checked the back of them there are no phone jacks on the back there is only a coaxial jack for a network connection, a keyboard jack, and what seems like a serial port. Now if you know what to do with them let me know! I am sure someone can use them! hehehe From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 09:01:11 1993 From: s i n e w a v e Date: Mon, 29 Nov 93 18:20:26 EST Subject: Snow * Ball 17 dec 93 Status: Hey, look at what ele mental is up to again.,.. back from the darkness.. Snow * Ball 17 dec 93; The Buggyworks, Columbus, OH a gathering of several MW artists, designers, programmers, musicians, and DJ's: ******* (in no specific order) Brian Gillespie * Titonton Duvante * John Santos * Damian Higgins (dieselboy) * Charles Noel * Ed Luna * Kevin Krahel * Doug Holmes * Tony Ramos * Dr. Jeckyl & Mr. Hyde (Paris Mack and the "+8 Dude" from Detroit, as Ed claims) * Dot (Dat) Dave Miller * Todd Sines * and more.. *: all of the above are spinning, performing, doing visual aids, or what not.. Vendors: BOink? & J-squared Fun stuff, video games, food and beverage provided by the collective otherwise known as ele mental. Maps: the Idiot Boy Cafe, Lane & High, in Columbus. Those interested, mail here, or call 614 299 3101 and leave a MESSAGE!!! (home phone...) sines -- ++ .todd sines ~ ++++ .tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu / analogue@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu ++++ .1770 n high st apt.L columbus, oh 43201 * 614 299 3101 ++ .analogue heaven * ars * enhanced * re:source * sense/net From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 09:09:34 1993 From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 12:10:05 EST Subject: Re: DJ Listings Status: Scott Henry ----> House,breakbeat,tribal LG -------> ambient Lieven Degeyndt -----> house, trance From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 09:24:06 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 12:21:47 EST Subject: SUTURE SOUL--New York Status: can't remember if this was in the last rom or not.... December 11, 1993 ALBANY NEW YORK 518.432.7416 S U T U R E S O U L ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Feel the restless flowing electricity of life, Where kaleidescopic lights and pulsating sounds dissolve into blissful vibrations. Tune in on electric dances of energy in a life-changing JOYOUS operation to.... SUTURE SOUL 10pm til sun-up OPERATING THE TURNTABLES ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ON-E (NASA) JAMES CHRISTIAN (L.I.) MICRO (caffeine) MEDICINE MAN (abyss) MR. KLEEN (fusion) SPY (disintigrator< D.C.) SCOTT RICHMOND (fusion) HAPPY (boston) JAMIE OCTAVE (chicago) MR. TRASH (united techno) BILL KRAMER (up north) JACKMASTER FLASH (maine) L I G H T S by ACME laboratories S M A R T bar by THIRD EYE promotions and trans: Conn. United Techno 203.646.6381 L.I. Kort N Greg 516.547.7118 Maine Book Called Galanta 207.885.5486 Syracuse Ramsey 315.655.9446 x310 Upstate N.Y. Up North 914.463.9350 Boston Danny Boy 617.666.2328 Sprockett 617.352.6939 Brought to you by BBBBB IIIIII GGGGG B B II G G B B II G BBBB II G GGGG D I P P E R B B II G G B B II G G BBBBB IIIIII GGGGG $13.00 AT DOOR---------$1.00 OFF IF YOU SMILE :) 100% LEGAL & LOUD AFTER HOURS AT THE A BBBB Y Y SSS SSS A A B B Y Y S S S S A A B B Y S S AAAAA BBB Y S S A A B B Y S S A A B B Y S S S S A A BBBB Y SSS SSS albany 518.462.2977 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ hope tons of you can make this......Shane (big dipper) and I talked, and it's gonna be P. H. A. T. ;) sprock.... From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 09:47:46 1993 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 09:50:25 -0800 Subject: Re: Smartdrinks Status: Hi Brendan, (and the other ravelist people..via forwarders..) Yes, indeed, I am _hoping_ to continue doing Nutrient Cafe ,optimistically..although it's hard to say where things are going right now from a regulatory standpoint...So I'm asking for your help. If you like me,think access to amino acids is important.. we need you to write OR CALL your Congressperson or Senator right now.. If you live near Washington,CALL THEM..FREQUENTLY.. One thing is to say that you use and enjoy AMINO ACID SUPPLEMENTS. (USE THIS WORD.) and that you feel it is your right to continue using them.. My situation- and this is what I have been writing to the politicos..is that I feel that I have gotten a lot more energy and helped ward off mild depression through my use of tyrosine and phenylalanine in particular... This is a NATURAL solution that has WORKED, for ME. and it's CHEAP. (These are the supplements they really want to remove from the market,like tryptophan, because they have uses that compete with much more PROFITABLE,PATENTED products..) DONT WRITE THE FDA - IT'S TOTALLY USELESS, WRITE YOUR CONGRESSPERSON,SENATOR, or PRESIDENT CLINTON and other HEALTH RELATED OFFICIALS. One thing to bring up is that tyrosine and/or phenylalanine might help people go off crack. (like tryptophan did.) Haight Ashbury Free Clinic has been using L-Tyrosine for 3 years to help people quit crack and speed with much success..(interested medical professionals only ,contact Dr. Gantt Galloway @ 415 565-1913) This has shown a lot of promise,but hasn't been researched... WHY? Poor people ned access to promising technologies like this..! If the LEGAL SITUATION makes it IMPOSSIBLE for COMPANIES to do meaningful research in this area.. (GRRRR...) THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD DO OR FUND IT. Tell them you support HR 1709 (House) and HR 509 (Senate). DO THIS NOW!!! TELL YOUR FRIENDS!!! Thanks! Sorry- rant mode off! -Chris. - From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 09:50:17 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:48:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: DJ Listings Status: some additions: Entity Baltimore Ambient / Fusion Bobble Baltimore Ambient / HipHop Breaks and maybe some changes: Garth SanFrancisco House / Funk Laurent Garnier France HARD Trance / Trance _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 09:59:33 1993 From: Sandra L Van Aken Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:55:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: need ride to generation Status: hey everyone, me and indigo really need a ride to generation...we are at the university of delaware and we are right off I-95...we are able to meet people if you are not close by...we would really appreciate any help that anyone could give us. if you have any ideas please let me know.. thank you love, sandy/good vibe sandi@brahms.udel.edu (302)837-3154 From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 10:48:25 1993 From: jcarow@MIT.EDU Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 13:48:13 EST Subject: best of techno vol. 4 Status: What up all. I just picked up the latest in the "Best of Techno" compilation series...vol. 4. Now I know most of you are saying domestic compilations = crap Normally this is true, but not in this case...check out the track listing. 1. baby d let me be your fantasy prod. house! 2. illuminatae tempestaada xvx ii 3. golden girls kinetic yes!!! 4. phuture assassins roots 'n future sub base!! 5. vinyl countdown paroles 6. nookie devotion 7. c.j. bolland mantra * 8. the prodigy weather experience 9. illuminatae tremora del terrra xvx 10. eq total ecstasy 11. mind abuse the piano 12. transform transformation la la la la la... oldie but goodie haven't listened to it yet....but it's probably pretty good...although it probably won't match "Speed Limit 140+ BPM Vol. 3: The Joint" Oh yeah....it was put together by DB, who asks an interesting question... talking about breakbeat, "The innovations, creativity and general wizardry among the dj/producers is quite simply stunning. You'd think a country so in love with hip-hop would quickly embrace a new form of dance music that used breaks and scratching in the same way rap does..." why do so few many people like breakbeat? I've played some for my friends who only like rap, but they hate it.... just pondering. casper From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 10:54:10 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 13:56:32 -0500 Subject: Accident Contributions... Status: Does anyone have addresses for the parents of Jonas and Christina? If you do, please post it so that anyone who can't give to the general collection at Generation can send them something individually. I wish I could say something more but it's hard to describe how this has hit me. I don't believe in an afterlife but I wish them peace wherever their souls may be. ___ (:)=====/__/\=(:)(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email & telephone: |=| |\| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |=| _\_ \ __/\||=| Government Dept. |\| (607) 256-1932 |=| |\| / /\ \ \ |=|(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=|/ / /__\/ |\||\| In memory of Jonas Klein and Christina Park, |\| |\/__/ \ |=||=| who died November 21, 1993. |=| |=\__\/\ \ |\||\| |\| (:)==\__\/====(:)(:)===================================================(:) From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 11:28:12 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 14:23:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: more on supplements (Was: Smart Drinks) (fwd) Status: Here's more about the banning of smart drink ingredients. Read this Jenn. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 13:17:14 -0400 (EDT) From: KHARRIS@antioc.antioch.edu To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu Subject: more on supplements due to the numerous responses asking for clarification of the supplement thing..... about 4 years ago the FDA started this attack on the alternative approaches to medicine...some herbs have already been reclassified..the current proprosal by the FDA is merely a continuance of this...under this proposal you would only be able to get 1000mg vitamin c (for example) by prescription...... in congress what's being debated is called the "Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHE) of 1993" IF this passes it will protect these supplements (which include amino acids =smart drinks).... so if you want to write a letter or whatever you would be asking your (cough) favorite public servant to cosponsor S.784, The DSHE Act of 1993 kathleen -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Support your local Temple of Urban Zen.......in which f l o a t r h y t h m s From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 11:37:27 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 14:27:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: best of techno vol. 4 Status: On Tue, 30 Nov 1993 jcarow@mit.edu wrote: > What up all. > > I just picked up the latest in the "Best of Techno" compilation series...vol. 4. > Now I know most of you are saying domestic compilations = crap > Normally this is true, but not in this case...check out the track listing. > > > haven't listened to it yet....but it's probably pretty good...although it > probably won't match "Speed Limit 140+ BPM Vol. 3: The Joint" Could you post the track listing for that? > Oh yeah....it was put together by DB, who asks an interesting question... > talking about breakbeat, "The innovations, creativity and general wizardry among > the dj/producers is quite simply stunning. You'd think a country so in love > with hip-hop would quickly embrace a new form of dance music that used breaks > and scratching in the same way rap does..." Good question. Thus has perplexed me for sometime. I've always expected breakbeat to take off but it hasn't. > why do so few many people like breakbeat? I've played some for my friends who > only like rap, but they hate it.... They generally probably don't understand it. It has less to do with a political philosphy than with sounds. Most darkness tracks now are bassier than most rap. A DJ friend of mine blew a huge woofer at a club here when he spun Valley of the Shadows. Anyway I think the people into rap are into it for the words, not the sounds or he beats. > just pondering. > casper Joe From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 11:42:59 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 14:35:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Algo 3/Supernature Update Status: I just found out today that PAWN our light and laser guy for Supernature will be bringing EVERYTHING he used at Casper so the lights should be pretty phat. Just thought I'd let you know. And the lineup looks great!! When was the last time you heard Lenny Dee AND Frankie Bones at the same rave? This is going back to the old school Catastropic style parties. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 12:19:14 1993 From: Christopher Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 15:18:48 EST Subject: Re: Algo 3/Supernature Update Status: On Nov 30, 2:55pm, Joe LeSesne wrote: > Subject: Algo 3/Supernature Update > I just found out today that PAWN our light and laser guy for Supernature > will be bringing EVERYTHING he used at Casper so the lights should be > pretty phat. Just thought I'd let you know. > And the lineup looks great!! > When was the last time you heard Lenny Dee AND Frankie Bones at the same > rave? This is going back to the old school Catastropic style parties. > > Joe Wow! Have I been asleep? When the hell is this! You all know I keep saying I am going to get up to Pittsburgh for an event... I definitely think this could be the one... Maybe I can bring the Tennessee kids that came up for the Algo2 back...it'll be a little SE posse in the big ole Midwest/Northeast/PB-Cleve area (How the f**k did that work out..is Pittsburgh some sort of trans-regional vortex....I can believe I just said that...gotta go b4 I like seem too much of a nerd... :) ) for the Arts and EntErtAinmEnt network....Peace. XtoFer Christopher......cte9q@virigina.edu From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 12:58:23 1993 From: Robert Campanell Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 12:58:09 -0800 Subject: "Cyberia" program guide, December 1993 Status: Here's the programming guide for the upcoming episode of "Cyberia" on U Network. For more info about "Cyberia" and the U Network affilites, gopher techno.stanford.edu. Select Rave/Techno FTP/Gopher archive site. Select Raves in the Media. Select Television Program Information. You will find the info files and affiliate list there. Please don't send me email asking when the program will be aired on your college TV station because I don't know. You will have to call your college TV station and find out. Schedules are different for each station. Hope you enjoy the show! "C y b e r i a" Program Guide, Episode #11, December 1993 C O M P U T E R A N I M A T I O N S "Untitled" Various students Sheridan College Much Music promos and some really cool looking characters. "Unice" "Ella and her Dad" Matthew Brunner Texas A&M A child's imagination is a creative thing. You don't know Unice. "Do" Kirk Kelly Texas A&M It's an Afro-Caribe dance rituals, I think? "Zen 3 Tao 2" John Chadwick Ohio State Psychedelic blob color metamorphisis. "Passage" Gene Cooper Kansas City Art Institute Visions of a home filled with ghosts of its former self. Integrates video with computer animation T E C H N O M U S I C V I D E O "Move" Moby Moby made a guest apperance to introduce his video. He doesn't like the video very well. It's a bit commercial, but I think it looks very pretty. "SpliffHead" Paperboy 2000 This was directed by Todd Boedecker, a senior at Washington State University. Live performance, dancing, and people with head mounted displays lost in some virtual worlds. ---------------------------------------------------------------- | "C Y B E R I A" | | Experience Reality in a Virtual World | ---------------------------------------------------------------- |Robert Campanell |Explicit | |Producer, "Cyberia" |2020 Pennsylvania Ave. NW | |George Washington University |Suite 430 | |Internet: robcamp@well.sf.ca.us |Washington, DC 20006 | ---------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 13:32:39 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 16:25:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Algo 3/Supernature Update Status: On Tue, 30 Nov 1993, Joe LeSesne wrote: > I just found out today that PAWN our light and laser guy for Supernature > will be bringing EVERYTHING he used at Casper so the lights should be > pretty phat. Just thought I'd let you know. > And the lineup looks great!! > When was the last time you heard Lenny Dee AND Frankie Bones at the same > rave? This is going back to the old school Catastropic style parties. > > Joe > > |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ > | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ > |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ > > PAWN only does lasers and no lights, Acme was doing lights at CAsper. Btw you're getting the BEST laser set up on earth! hehehe! Jake From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 15:43:06 1993 From: mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Mary Kyrola O'Hagin) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 18:42:57 EST Subject: Acid Jazz/Other Status: I don't think that it is that strange some people like and some don't like Acid Jazz. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the same people also like classical music either. It gets bring just listening to the same thing all the time. mko btw: Jazzmatazz is pretty good... -------------------------------------------------------- "Bunny Rabbit, you leave those carrots alone." --P.J. O'Rourke -------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 16:44:44 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 19:32:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Smartdrinks Status: >DATE: Mon, 29 Nov 1993 23:56:00 -0500 (EST) >FROM: Jennifer J. Smeddy > >On Mon, 29 Nov 1993, Joe LeSesne wrote: > >> My suggestion is do it soon, the hearings on legislation to make smart >> drink mix and such ingredients illegal withour prescription if coming to a >> close sometime soon. (Read it on mw-raves) >> Joe >> >> >> > >where did you hear this!!!! sould i stock up now??? send me the post if >you still have it ok?? > >thanks > >jennifer smeddy > I believe what Joe is referring to is the Nutritional Labeling and Education Act (NLEA). It's been in few fitness magazines, among other places. I found the best summary in Smart Drugs II: The Next Generation... "In 1992, the FDA submitted thousands of pages of regulations for the Nutritional Labeling and Education Act (NLEA). With the NLEA, the FDA gave itself the power to remove all amino acids, herbs, and above-RDA vitamins from the U.S. market. The NLEA was originally scheduled to become law in May of 1993, but massive consumer outcry prompted Congress to pass a moratorium on the NLEA in the last days of 1992 session. The moratorium postponed enforcement of the NLEA until December of 1993. The FDA's hands were effectively tied for the year." Don't when you're reading this, but 12/1/93 is tomorrow. I'm not sure of what the current status of the NLEA is, but I'd like to know. What does this mean? No smart drinks, no amino acids, no anythings, really. (sigh) C-ya... Bob Baxter | "Reverend Lee will bring you p00284@psilink.com <-- best | freedom" -- paraphrase of a bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | sticker found outside Mingala's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Village Restaurant, Manhattan From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 17:02:20 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 19:59:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 11/29/93) Status: =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== I hope a lot of you can make it to Generation on Saturday to support your favorite net DJs, VJs, promoters, etc. I included it in the ROM because so many people from NE-Raves are involved, even though Richmond is debatebly in the realm of SE-Raves. Hope to see you all there! Also, Algorhythm 3 has net-raver Joe [1.8.7.] doing a live PA, so check him out too. Have a fun weekend! Drink those smart drinks while they're still legal! -inhuman. _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion or calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@usl.com so she can share it with the Technopolis list. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 12/03/93 - BUZZ * (Bob Bentley) - Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 12/03/93 - PULSE @ - New York City, NY - (212) 230 - 8282 12/04/93 - GENERATION - Richmond, VA - (804) 768 - 2000 12/04/93 - TECHNOPHELIA - Long Island, NY - (516) 424 - 9432 12/04/93 - ALGORHYTHM 3 - Pittsburgh, PA - (412) 734 - 5549 12/04/93 - EVOLUTION FACTORY - Rhode Island - (401) 454 - 6028 12/10/93 - BUZZ * (Capricorn) - Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 12/11/93 - SUTURE SOUL - Albany, NY - (518) 462 - 2977 12/14/93 - LIMELIGHT * (Capricorn) - New York City, NY - (???) ??? - ???? 12/17/93 - BUZZ * (Ladies Night) - Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 12/17/93 - SMOOTH @ - Long Island, NY - (516) 242 - 1773 12/18/93 - MOBILE GROOVES POSSE 2 - Washington, DC - (???) ??? - ???? 12/31/93 - RESOLUTION - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 7031 01/15/94 - SYNERGY - New York City - (212) 631 - 3614 01/29/94 - GALAXY - Washington, DC - (202) 466 - 1692 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 3 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * o Bob Bentley (u.k.) o Dave Valentine (sunscreem-u.k.) o Dave Trance (caffeine) o Scott Henry (fever/buzz) o Lieven DeGeyndt (musicnow/buzz) o DJ Greene (San Francisco) buzz volume two tapes to the first 200 people through the door. the second in a series of kickin' mixed tapes. NOTE: We have employed new friendly and courteous security guards hand picked by BUZZ. Also due to new DC laws you must have adequate ID at the door, no exceptions made. We know this is a hassel, but these are rules we must abide by. Thank you for understanding. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 3 NEW YORK CITY (212) 230 - 8282 PULSE @ PULSE New York City Techno Trance Tribal every Friday Shockwave: Dec 3, 1993 10:00PM - 6:00AM Resident DJs: Joeski * On-E * Bob Bentley Special Guests: Frankie Bones * Micro * and introducing Djul'Z Special ambient opening set by Astralwerks' DJ Reese Location: 27 West 24th St. between 5th & 6th Ave. Pulse: (212) 230-8282 Mello: (212) 631-4290 Scooter: (212) 631-1033 | (201) 927-2292 Admission: $10.00 with invite, $12.00 without CD and record giveaways: Astralwerks _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 4 RICHMOND, VA (804) 768 - 2000 GENERATION trance-fused productions presents... generation.... richmond, va. 12/4/93 10 pm - 7 am - afterhours tba - $10 / $8 in advance Directions to the multi-roomed warehouse available w/ advance tickets or on the info-line starting the day before the event - 804.768.2000 sound control: josh wink - nervous/sorted records dieselBoy * pittsburgh todd krulak - music now / d.c. laura * new jersey speed demon * va john rainbow humphrey * n.c. chadE - space/richmond enzyme * charlottesville/cyber tiff'nE * trancefused/wdce/richmond + others - TBA live performance by method one * intelligent sound/lights (including Intellibeams, Dataflashes, Pro-Beams and more) by apple (buzz) computer visuals by melon dezign * smart bar by liquid technology * virtual environment by rob c. * gear by Groove Ware and Tik advance tickets available at: music now, dc - 202.638.1213 modern music, balt. - 410.523.1882 plan 9, ch'ville - 804.979.9999 plan 9, richmond - 804.353.9996 corky's, fredericksburg - 703.373.4984 Bus tripping info: Allentown PA * ZooM * 215.998.9650 Baltimore, MD - Ultraworld - 410.880.7031 Chapel Hill * Rob R. * 919.512.5227 additional trips being organized, please call the info-line if interested [* = net member] _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 4 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 424 - 9432 TECHNOPHELIA Bauhaus Studios & The LI Underground present: TECHNOPHELIA Saturday, December 4th, from 10:30PM till 12 Noon (516) 424-9432 Guest DJs: Dave Trance * DNA * Jimmy Crash * K-5 * DJ Louis * Micro * Sameer * Sam I Am Live Performances: Atomic Babies * Divinity * King Static Tickets: $10 available at the door of the location. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 4 RHODE ISLAND (401) 454 - 6028 EVOLUTION FACTORY Balu Presents E V O L U T I O N F A C T O R Y DEC 4 : 10 PM until 8 AM evolution in action _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 4 PITTSBURGH, PA (412) 734 - 5549 ALGORHYTHM 3 - SUPERNATURE The Heaviest Vibe on our Planet Earth will touchdown in Pittsburgh, PA 12.4.93.AD 10p-7a Millenium Co-Operation Presents Algorhythm 3 - Supernature "The Millenium Strikes Back" The Earthshakers: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength Records, Bastard Loud recording artist) Frankie Bones (Storm Rave, Groove Records) DJ ESP (Labworks, ex Adam and Eve recording artist) Your Millenium DJ's: Deadly Buda (Evil Wildstyle Messiah) Soji Fu (Hardcore Junglist) Side 2 (Cyber Dread Funkster) Finger (Mellow Man) + FX (Hardcore Death Metal Rockbot) Terry Kicks (Underground House Thumper) Special Features * " 1.8.7 Will start off the night conducting a supernatural soundscape designed specifically for this event. More than just a PA, this will summon as yet unknown forces beyond time&space" * " Terry Kicks will mix a special set of vintage underground disco. No'Saturday Night Fever'bullshit this is the real deal." * Killer MTX Sound * 2 Sound Areas to choose from * Smart Bar by NRGETICS * You, completly wigging out "Millenium would like to thank all those who attended and made our previous events so memorable. The unfortunate breakup of Algo 2 turned out to be a contractual discrepency which we have ironed out for Algo 3. As you may recall the location for 2 was in one word KILLER! Keeping that in mind we worked long and hard negotiating the exact same space for 3. Fully contracted, fully secured. Thus out only fear is is that you will not be able to stand on your wobbly, sweaty paint covered legs by 7AM. Yes, Lenny Dee will be teturning to take up where we left off at the last Algorhythm. By the way, the paint is water soluable...." Location: Urban Assault $8 advance $10 door Tix available at 9 locations in the Greater Pittsburgh Area - one near You: Teleropa, Eides Records, Slacker, Glenns Toy Box, Collector's 12 inch,a DJ's Skate Shop, Stedefords Records, Datatrax Records (Cleveland) Record Rama. Infoline 412.734.5549 A portion of the proceeds benefits Greenpeace _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 10 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * an evening with r&s records and astralwerks records direct from belgium... performing live!!! o Capricorn ("20 hz & harikiri) with special guest DJ's o Tin Tin (energy - u.k.) o DJ Abraxas (of fierce ruling diva) o DJ Reese (astralwerks - nyc) o Scott Henry (fever - buzz) o Marc Allen (inner city records - baltimore) o John Knor (atlanta) o Aris (dc) cd and tape giveaways courtesy of r&s and astralwerks. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 11 ALBANY, NY (518) 462 - 2977 SUTURE SOUL S U T U R E S O U L ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Feel the restless flowing electricity of life, Where kaleidescopic lights and pulsating sounds dissolve into blissful vibrations. Tune in on electric dances of energy in a life-changing JOYOUS operation to.... SUTURE SOUL 10pm til sun-up OPERATING THE TURNTABLES ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ON-E (NASA) JAMES CHRISTIAN (L.I.) MICRO (caffeine) MEDICINE MAN (abyss) MR. KLEEN (fusion) SPY (disintigrator< D.C.) SCOTT RICHMOND (fusion) HAPPY (boston) JAMIE OCTAVE (chicago) MR. TRASH (united techno) BILL KRAMER (up north) JACKMASTER FLASH (maine) L I G H T S by ACME laboratories S M A R T bar by THIRD EYE promotions and trans: Conn. United Techno 203.646.6381 L.I. Kort N Greg 516.547.7118 Maine Book Called Galanta 207.885.5486 Syracuse Ramsey 315.655.9446 x310 Upstate N.Y. Up North 914.463.9350 Boston Danny Boy 617.666.2328 Sprockett 617.352.6939 Brought to you by BBBBB IIIIII GGGGG B B II G G B B II G BBBB II G GGGG D I P P E R B B II G G B B II G G BBBBB IIIIII GGGGG $13.00 AT DOOR---------$1.00 OFF IF YOU SMILE :) 100% LEGAL & LOUD AFTER HOURS AT THE A BBBB Y Y SSS SSS A A B B Y Y S S S S A A B B Y S S AAAAA BBB Y S S A A B B Y S S A A B B Y S S S S A A BBBB Y SSS SSS albany _______________________________________________________________________________ Tuesday, December 14 NEW YORK CITY (???) ??? - ???? LIMELIGHT * R&S Records, Astralwerks, and Blunt Academy Present: Direct from Belgium Astralwerks/Global Cuts/R&S Artist * C A P R I C O R N * Performing Their Hits "20 Hz" & "Haraiki" With DJ Abraxas (Fierce Ruling Diva) and DJ Reese (Communion, Astralwerks - NYC) at the Limelight _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 17 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * ladies night (the buzz interpretation) buzz pays respect to dj's of the female gender. o Heather Heart (under one sky - ny) o Jacklyn Christie (strictly rhythm - ny) o Suz-E-Cyclone (dc) and of course the buzz dj's scott henry & lieven degeyndt o Who (baltimore) [where's Laura??] BUZZ will be closed for two weeks for the holiday season including Christmas Eve & New Years Eve, please mark your calendars. On New Years Eve, the BUZZ crew will be celebrating with ULTRAWORLD at Resolution - It's time to rave again. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 17 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 242 - 1773 SMOOTH @ You've experienced Natural High, now get set as we take you higher... Caffeine presents: S M O O T H December 17, 1993 Live performance by Rhythm Method. Also featuring Micro & Luis 2x4 simultaneously. DJs on the night include: Keoki: Disco 2000 * Jimmy Crash: Direct Drive * Blake Baxter: Detroit * Neuromancer: Germany * Scott Henry: Buzz * Dale Charles: San Diego * Rio: Discorama * Omar: LI Underground * Guy DMC: DMC Records * Dave Trance: Caffeine Records * Sameer: Essence * DNA: Caffeine Info: (516) 242-1773 $10 w/pass, $12 w/out _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 18 WASHINGTON, DC (???) ??? - ???? MOBILE GROOVES POSSE 2 More details to follow on DC's subterranean rebirth _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 7031 RESOLUTION Ultraworld Presents R E S O L U T I O N Friday December 31, 1993 New Year's Eve $20.00 US 333 WINK MICRO DJSUN JASON JINX SCOTT HENRY DAVE TRANCE LEIVEN DeGEYNDT WHO M-GEE SAMEER RYDE ONIONZ TOM T 12 hours of high energy GYROBIX techno tribal breakbeat MOONBOUNCE trance and hard acid SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE 2 lasers, giant screen GIANT VIDEO GAMES projection by ENO-ONE -- MELON DEZIGN 9 hours of ambient bliss to space your head featuring film lasers projections by projections by P.A.W.N DOUBLE HELIX oblivion lights by RETINAL BLOWJOB Ambient DJ's - wash, entity, john hicks, wordmosesripple and a special live performance by THE ALMIGHTY SENATORS smart bar by neuro-energy drink the water juice bar advance tickets on sale from dec 6th from: modern music balto 410.523.1882 open till 10:30 pm on 12/31 music now DC 202.638.1213 " " 9:30 pm on " loaded nyc 212.533.8463 call for hours 611 records philly 215.413.9100 call for hours checkered past harrisburg 717.561.8898 call for hours eddie van raven long island 516.925.2546 (pager, enter code 94) dezel boston 617.541.4258 bus trips: maine simon 207.871.8216 manhattan mello 212.631.4290 nh/vt nikki b 603.437.7795 nj/ny e-force 201.295.1925 vt mothership 802.860.7545 nj scooter 212.631.1033 connecticut warped 203.454.6643 philly thc 215.923.433 boston desel 617.541.4258 delaware zenith 302.764.9272 albany big dipper 518.465.6381 cleveland funky gizmos 216.238.1451 long island kort and greg 516.581.5426 richmond trance-fused 804.768.2000 montreal dna 514.854.6446 brooklyn dennis the menace 718.375.1954 call 410.880.7031 to find out about many additions to this list. call 410.522.6933 if you want to organize a bus or buy your ticket at the door ($25.00) .. here are the directions take 95 to baltimore. at the balto beltway (695) go west towards towson. take exit 34 - 83 north to timonium, get off at exit 16 east..timonium rd. cross the railroad tracks make a left into the first entrance, you can't miss it! admission: $20 in advance $25 at the door bus trips vary this event will reach capacity .. get your ticket early :) doors open 9:00 pm. after hours begins at 10:00 am, Sunday. DJ's T.B.A. MAIN INFO LINE: 410.880.7031 updates, communications, suggestions about the space: 37000 sq ft in 3 rooms, super-high ceilings, smooth clean dance floor, bathrooms like a YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER stadium, lit parking lot right in front, TO ENTER!!!!!! coat check, pay phones, A/C or heat on demand (wow!) .. 100 RAVE guaranteed :) merchants welcome: call 410.522.6933 for info Fresh Media 410.522.6933 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 NEW YORK CITY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY SYNERGY Combined Energy * United Force * An Oracle Production January 15, 1994 * Information 212.631.3614 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 29 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 466 - 1692 GALAXY Thermonuclear productions presents Galaxy. _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 17:13:04 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 20:09:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hom No. 1 Status: Hey ya'll :) Here's the first HOM of the week, if you need to be added, erased, or can offer rides [or need rides] mail me [melzie@wam.umd.edu] with the info. Enjoy! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DC - UM HOM OF THE WEEK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 3 Buzz DC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 3 Wiggle 3 VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, December 4 Generation VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Melzie Grooviest Coconut melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Cyberpun aka Digital.Druid cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Dan Anarchy anarchy@eng.umd.edu Derek Tiffan-E TIFFANYDE@urvax.urich.edu Jen Smeddy Jen-bug [doin de bar :) ] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Fiend Fiend [Needs a ride from NJ] 6ANTHONY_M@spcxva.spc.edu Suzy Suzyd [NEEDS RIDE from College Park] suzyd@wam.umd.edu Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Stephen [NEEDS RIDE from Pitts] 00117117@ysub.ysu.edu Sandy Good vibe [NEEDS RIDE from Del] sandi@brahms.udel.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 4 Sound Flower II Baltimore ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Buzz [ladies night] DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 18:34:39 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 18:34:30 -0800 Subject: TECHNOPOLIS PARTY / SAT. JAN. 8 Status: Hi all! The Technopolis mailing list has been kicking around the idea of throwing a party. We've finally got a spot, so it's ON for Saturday, January 8, 1994. The location will be in Rockland County, New York. This is 1/2 an hour north of Manhattan. We'll have lots of space, and the owner is hip to having us be there all night (10pm to 8am), so plan to come on up and bring your friends! Stay tuned for details . . . . Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 18:45:38 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 21:43:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Algo 3/Supernature Update Status: Actually, Pawn does both. He just didn't do lights at Casper. He did lasers. He did lights and lasers for soul. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 19:31:17 1993 From: djentox@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Nov 93 22:30:40 EST Subject: E4 Flyers- Help! Status: Hey all, I'm in desperate need of an E4 flyer to display next to an article written on E4 (Thanx FiSH) If you don't have an extra to spare..I can just copy it and send it back to you. If anyone can help me, I'd be VERY appreciative!!!! Peace, Vibes...the whole 9 djentoxdjentoxdjentoxdjentox@aol.aol.aol.aol.aol.aol.com.com.com. djentox@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 19:55:53 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1993 22:51:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Algo 3/Supernature Update Status: On Tue, 30 Nov 1993, Joe LeSesne wrote: > Actually, Pawn does both. He just didn't do lights at Casper. He did > lasers. He did lights and lasers for soul. > Joe > > |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ > | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ > |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ > > Trust me they dont do lights! I know Mark Reed and he is a good friend of mine, he only does lasers and sometimes video [he lets me use his projector sometimes so I got two screens set up]... Later mate! From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 21:05:52 1993 From: dennis barton <70531.2124@CompuServe.COM> Date: 01 Dec 93 00:02:16 EST Subject: "Cyberia" Status: >"C Y B E R I A" >"SpliffHead" >Paperboy 2000 >This was directed by Todd Boedecker, a senior at Washington >State University. Live performance, dancing, and people with >head mounted displays lost in some virtual worlds. I didn't know this video was gonna be on the show and was pleasantly surprised by this message.. If any of you get this show, check it out and let me know what you think of this video.. In case I haven't mentioned it before, the PAPERBOY2000 stuff is me.. From ne-raves-owner Tue Nov 30 23:21:45 1993 From: dq158@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Knowles) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 02:21:39 -0500 Subject: Hi... umm Status: Hi, I'm not really new to NE-RAVES but this is the first time I've ever posted a message. You could say I'm the quiet type. I know this is kinda late and all. But I was just wondering if there was anyone in the Cleveland area going to ALG 3 that has room for maybe two more people. Sorry about asking late and all but it's really important to me that I get there. I have a friend that I want to meet there Michelle (also on ne-raves) that I wanted to see at Littel Good Vibe but I couldn't make it. So I'm trying my hardest to get to this one. -bk From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 01:31:03 1993 From: MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 04:32 EDT Subject: In need of turntables. Status: Does anyone know of anyoen who is preferably from the Philadelphia area and wants to sell turntables, a mixer, and records to a nice, raving college boy like me? Please mail me #'s and e-mail addresses. Thanks! See ya, Love, Matt(munterma@haverford.edu) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 08:25:58 1993 From: Craig M. Kanarick Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 10:19:04 -0500 Subject: long time, no rave Status: Hey everyone! Just a quick hello and a request... I am looking for a sublet in Manhattan for December and January (maybe longer), ideally downtown. Please forward any and all information to me via email. And if there are any NYU students who would be willing to go to the off-campus housing office for me and get some information, I'd be _very_ grateful. rabbit rabbit, -- cmk From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 09:27:31 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 12:15:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: *Algorhythm 3-SuperNature PITTSBURGH 12.4.93* Status: On Tue, 30 Nov 1993 jwpark@husc.harvard.edu wrote: > How're you doing from a native Pittsburgher. I'm going to college > in Boston, and I will be the happiest man on Earth when one of these gigs > happen when I'm actually in Pittsburgh. I'm seriously thinking of buying a > plane ticket and jetting in just for the occassion. Seriously this is shaping up to being one of the best events on the East Coast. It is certainly the most musically diverse, running from hardcore (of course) to breaks, to tribal, to trance, to house, to vintage underground disco. A pretty good lineup of DJ's too. Get that plane ticket ready, you won't want to miss this. People are comming from as far as Tennessee, as it is. > Well Can you tell me of any events coming up near Christmastime through > New Year's Day and a little bit after? Appreciate it. Joining the pb-cle-raves list (pb-cle-raves@telerama.lm.com) would be a start. Send a SUB DISCUSS request to pb-cle-raves-request@telerama.lm.com. I know of a big event in the planning stages for New Years. > > Jason Park from Fox Chapel Joe From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 09:40:33 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 12:37:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Jenn-bug is Great! :) Status: I just had to let you all know that Jenn-bug is excellent. Her smile is great! Her attitude is great! We are both great! Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 11:03:38 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 14:03:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE:Jenn-Bug is great!!!! Status: yes yes yes, jenn is indeed great, but....joe: cool it already! :) my computer is gagging from the sugar content of your posts and vrave appearences... *rolls eyes* I guess im a curmudgeon (it that spelled right? oh well) :) jason/method one From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 11:07:08 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 14:06:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: in search of info Status: hey, does anyone know the phone # of natali (aka silly little buttercup) ? tomarrow's her b-day and i wanted to wish her a happy one in person...i would do a big post but im not sure if she's on ne-raves....oh well, if you have the number, pleeze send it to me -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 12:30:47 1993 From: jcarow@MIT.EDU Date: Wed, 01 Dec 93 15:30:34 EST Subject: Subterranean I Status: Who do I email to get on this list? Thanks. 15 JANUARY Friday CLEVELAND SUBTERRANEAN I date : JANUARY 15, 1993 place : CLEVELAND, OHIO name : SUBTERRANEAN I BACK TO THE UNDERGROUND purpose : UNITE THE CYBERTRIBE name handle location dj/PA needs ride **** ****** ******** ***** ********** laura laura Hoboken, NJ dj damian dieselBoy Pittsburg, PA dj todd ~ Columbus, OH PA joe raver909 Pittsburg, PA PA stephen stephen Youngstown, OH dj/PA chris cmellow Vermont (?) dj ed djslip (?), NJ dj eileen mrs.slip :) (?), NJ dave walker Detroit, MI dave miller Columbus, OH andrew &-droo Cincinnati, OH steven white Milwaukee yes john hohlstrand Oberlin, OH andy SPeCiMen (?), MI dj mike brown mikeb Columbus, OH dj jerry haws j^2 Lexington, KY david bayer Boston yes krys china Cleveland, OH chris kozup Cincinnati, OH yes marshal mars (?), NJ dj dave moxon Oberlin, OH hossam sphix Egypt :) boris (?), Wisconson matt fresh blend (?) dj michael carney Columbus, OH jen Madison, WI yes greg winer (?) michael butler johnny quest Cincinnati, OH yes charles noel (too long) :) Columbus, OH PA will WILL-E (?), NJ dj yes mike snuggles (?) dj natalija natlija Ann arbor, MI steve fluffhead (?) chuck sINISTER Bowling green, OH michael inhuman Pittsburg, PA colin bossen Cleveland, OH tony ramos Columbus, OH bruce krysiak Columbus/Boston yes (?) kumquat Boston, MA yes mary sasha Cincinnati, OH vanessa jetta Boston, MA neith love&frogs Boston, MA pholida Boston, MAboris (?) dan modE Milwaukee, WI yes CASPER From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 12:48:33 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 15:47:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE:Jenn-Bug is great!!!! Status: Jenn is most definately an incredible person. Her smile, the way she says 'dream', the eager eyes, the tasty drinks, and best of all: HER HAIR! Check it out, really cool.. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 12:50:20 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 15:49:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Red? Status: Hey, has anyone heard of an upcoming event called Red? I heard some faint rumours about it just now and I wonder what is going to come of them. It should be an event by the folks who brought us Blue and Yellow, and probably will occur in the Boston area. Any clues folk? Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 12:52:34 1993 From: SHALAKO (technokachina) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 93 15:52:20 EST Subject: Re: best thing about raving... Status: the music. what else is there? (runner-up answers include: dancing, positive vibe of communal thought and spririt [if it exists]) raves are not physically social events. shannon-riding a wave of emotion From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 13:13:49 1993 From: Oz Lubling Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 16:14:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Red? Status: Dan! Red will be in the boston area on Feb 12. Only little promo flyers are available with the phone number. It's put together by the people who did BLUE, AND YELLOW = Primary Productions who are 333 & MGEE. if it's any indication, blue and yellow were the best raves of the year here in the new england area. they tend to be kind of like the ESSENCES in new york. oz From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 13:37:19 1993 From: "Christian S. Morley" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 16:28:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Red Status: More info! More info! that's pretty much all I have to say! -----Chris From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 14:11:31 1993 From: Daniel J Nadeau Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 17:09:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Red Status: On Wed, 1 Dec 1993, Christian S. Morley wrote: > More info! More info! that's pretty much all I have to say! > > -----Chris I second that!!!!! Oz, could you post the phone number that appeared on the flyer? Peace and yaddayaddayadda, all... Dan "Do you just cut them like normal chickens?" From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 14:12:38 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 17:07:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: RED Status: Mello & Primary Productions present R E D February 12 1994 Valentines Weekend Boston 617.541.4258 N.Y.C. 212.631.4290 READY??? :Fluid: :flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 14:19:08 1993 From: SHALAKO (technokachina) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 93 17:18:56 EST Subject: e-4 Status: arrived in time to hear dave trance. very, very generic hard trance, with the emphasis on hard. boring. richie hawtin was also a dissapointment. uninspiring. laurent garnier is a god. right up there with bob bentley. his style is definitley on the "wave of emotion and power" tip, while bob bentley's style is "head fuck, heart fuck, ACID." his tracks were mind blowing, and his mixing was absolutely the best i've ever heard. flawless. micro impressed me by playing trance, i thought he was a hard-to-core... kibal collins set was my other fav. i forget what it was like, but i know i enjoyed it... ;) garth came on and i felt myself actually feeling anger. we had a reeeeally good hardtrance vibe going, that i could have gone with till the end, and garth came on and played this music that i can't even really describe: slow. hip-hoppish beats, really trippy. i award garth the gold medal of vibe-killing. he really wasn't reading the crowd very well, and just seemed liked he wanted to "force" his musical tastes on the crowd at an especially bad time. this really blew the rave for me. i enjoyed two sets, alot. the rest was mediocre. i also got a feeling from the crowd that nobody was really in to it. during laurent garnier's set, there was a fat vibe by the speakers, but other than that, blah... hmmm... shannon i'm going to cali this christmas, for the fist time in a year-and-a-half...i really want to party hard, and experience what it's like out there now...but if garth is any evidence, i'm not so sure anymore...COULD SOMEONE SUGGEST SOME PHAT PLACES TO GO IN S.F.? I DON'T CARE WHAT THE MUSICAL STYLE (I WOULDN'T MIND A LOT OF HARD, ACID TRANCE, BUT I DONT EXPECT IT) I JUST WANT A PHAT VIBE...I'LL BE THERE FROM DEC. 20-> JAN. 2 From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 14:19:56 1993 From: __cmellow__ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 17:16:47 -500 (EST) Subject: Re: Red? Status: On Wed, 1 Dec 1993, danFREELove wrote: > Hey, has anyone heard of an upcoming event called Red? I heard some > faint rumours about it just now and I wonder what is going to come of > them. It should be an event by the folks who brought us Blue and Yellow, > and probably will occur in the Boston area. > > Any clues folk? > well, neil mello, who's brother (supposedly) had a very big share in blue and yellow, says that they're not going to throw a red because they lost crazy money on yellow. so maybe it just another party calling itself red, or maybe the blue/yellow people split and they're throwing the red one.. chris From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 14:40:38 1993 From: __cmellow__ Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 17:38:35 -500 (EST) Subject: Re: Red? Status: On Wed, 1 Dec 1993, __cmellow__ wrote: > > well, neil mello, who's brother (supposedly) had a very big share in blue > and yellow, says that they're not going to throw a red because they lost > crazy money on yellow. so maybe it just another party calling itself red, > or maybe the blue/yellow people split and they're throwing the red > one.. > or maybe he doesn't talk to his brother much anymore :) heheh i guess it is the same people. wow, i wonder why his brother doesn't know about it! :) hehe anyway, that's cool that there is a red. i didn't make it to either blue or yellow... chris From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 14:55:06 1993 From: brendan mcdougall Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 17:56:38 -0500 Subject: newsweek Status: Hey everybody, we're in Newsweek pg 62 Dec 6 issue. Apparently, we're--ravers--notorius for using X and D meth. If I make it to a scanner, I'll post the text. Oh yeah only denizens of dance clubs in Calif and Florida use 2c-B :) brendan From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 15:16:51 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 18:15:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Joe-bug is Great! :) Status: Joe is the best(est) in the whole world!!!! I think I am moving to Pittsburgh this winter break ;) HEHEHE! huggs to everyone and a great weekend.... Jennifer Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 15:27:02 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 18:25:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Subterranean I Status: On Wed, 1 Dec 1993 jcarow@mit.edu wrote: > 15 JANUARY Friday CLEVELAND SUBTERRANEAN I > > date : JANUARY 15, 1993 > > name handle location dj/PA needs ride > **** ****** ******** ***** ********** jennifer smeddy jenn-bug pa YEAH!! (philly/allentown) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 15:36:47 1993 From: 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 18:36:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: algorythym3 Status: anyone going from nj/nyc area? hook me with a ride pleez! the fiend From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 15:41:48 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 18:37:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Mobys back.. Status: Just thought this was intersting - Mobys new single is called "All I want is to be loved" and is definately a step in the right direction. At least one of the mixes was a pretty fierce acid stomper (cheese mix added on at the end of course). Sounds like alt.rave did him some good...love that title ;) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 15:47:09 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 18:44:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave=drugs... Status: Has anyone else noted this?: While on line for Essence IV, they were giving out flyers for Ultraworld in Baltimore for New Years....On the back it had DJ info, and other stats and phone numbers. The other side, well, it was sort of mini-poster sized, and it had Uncle Sam with the words "ULTRAWORLD" " Picture " " Picture " "WANTS YOU!" On Uncle Sam's lapel/chest, was a Marijuana leaf, _very_ clear and _very_ green. I think that it contributed to the drugs and rave connection. To somebody who has never gone to one, they would assume that there would be drugs there, or that this drug use was condoned. Just my $0.02, Akeera From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 16:28:09 1993 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 16:21:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: new years Status: what to do for new years...well there is lonnies excellent party near baltimore ultraword!!!!!!!! also you can go to the nasa thing in nyc...(current 1/2 of nasa is living in my house and let me know this is going to be "a kick ass party") also i had a little chat with scotto from nasa and i told him no more moby on his next tour...heheh also rumor has it a nasa cd is comming out...it is amazing how much gossip you can get 3000 miles alway...partyon...susie (: any comments to nasa i can pass on...i will be posting there address and i have already begged for them to get on the net...ehheheh (anyone have a computer for scotto?) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 16:33:51 1993 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 16:29:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: best thing about raving... Status: they should be physical!!!! hugs & kisses * also i think the next step in dancing at parties is contact improvosation...anyone heard of it...what do you think of it...and do you think it will infiltrate parties??? i hope soo...check it out...partyon...susie(: On Wed, 1 Dec 1993, SHALAKO wrote: > the music. what else is there? > > (runner-up answers include: dancing, positive vibe of communal thought and > spririt [if it exists]) > > raves are not physically social events. > > shannon-riding a wave of emotion From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 16:37:03 1993 From: WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu Date: 01 Dec 1993 19:34:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Rave=drugs... Status: *Has anyone else noted this?: * To *somebody who has never gone to one, they would assume that there would be drugs *there, or that this drug use was condoned. * Just my $0.02, * Akeera YES!! today at dinner... i was eating with some people who live on my floor... and i told them i was going to a rave this weekend... and one dude said "thats cool... are you going to do XTC there???" ... i told him that there were drugs EVERYWHERE... and some times people do them at raves... and he said WELL... you know... the first thing that people think of when they think of raves, is drugs...LSD and XTC... unfortunatly people arent open minded to think that people would also like to dance and have fun ??? oh well.... peace out and rave on... michelle From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 16:50:58 1993 From: 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 19:29:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: drugs Status: what is wrong with condoning drug use? Nancy-rEagan-list? the fiend From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 17:21:09 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 20:18:52 EST Subject: Boston PROMOTOR competition????? Status: ok this is about a little thingy im dealing with right now. does anyone know who Danny Boy (aka Dboy, Dan, Daniel [hall?]) is, or anything about the promoting operation he runs? i know he's promoting in Boston for suture soul, but that's all. Dan are you on this list? I'd just like any info anyone knows---cuz i've never heard of him before... anyway, ill post about my little frustrating problem thingy with promoter competition after i get some info back on this post.... sprockett From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 17:48:57 1993 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 17:49:12 -0800 Subject: Contact Improvization? Status: Sometimes it seems as if contact-improvization is already happening.. At the best parties,when the energy is really pumping,sometimes I feel like the dancefloor is verging on a friendly moshpit... Might be fun to dig on that and offer padded walls,trampolines..etc.. Thats the idea that the moonwalks are sort of leading to.. People could make raves a _truly_ physical experience.. by sharing massages too.. Why not have a massage trading area.. (not for pay,for free..) people who wanted to give/get massages could go there.. -Chris. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 18:07:52 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 21:07:43 -0500 Subject: Re: SUTURE SOUL--New York Status: Just a reminder, y'all..... I (and probably Juju) have crash space for anyone who wants to come on up for Suture Soul. Should be an excellent vibe. It's really important, also, that this come off in order to foster a currently small local scene. So support the Upstate scene--NYC ain't got nothin' on us. nate -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 18:12:23 1993 From: David Sarcastic Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 21:10:50 -0400 (EST) Subject: Re: newsweek Status: On Wed, 1 Dec 1993, brendan mcdougall wrote: > we're in Newsweek pg 62 Dec 6 issue. Apparently, > we're--ravers--notorius for using X and D meth. If I make it to a > scanner, I'll post the text. > > Oh yeah only denizens of dance clubs in Calif and Florida use 2c-B > > :) yeah, i read that with equal chagrin...but it felt a little weird reading in Newsweek that I had taken ecstasy, being a raver and all, because I sure don't remember when I did it....:) .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 19:12:12 1993 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 22:11:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Rave=drugs... Status: there were also flyers a while back for a boston event...don't know that it went off full time though...over the summer w/uncle sam's pic and the words "Have you had your pill today?" they made stickers and all of it love and frogs!!! neith From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 19:45:05 1993 From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Date: Wed, 1 Dec 93 22:45:42 EST Subject: Re: Mobys back.. Status: Let's hope the alt.rave stint helped his focus. Wehen he did his "Cyberia" appearance, he said he did not have any new songs, and he's contracted to deliver a full length CD by Feb. - Rob From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 19:54:12 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 93 22:54:45 -0400 Subject: Those IBM terminals... Status: Just a side note re those IBM terminals. SInce they have a serial port on the back, they make a great backup for calling your local modem pool in the event your PC/Mac dies. You may not be able to save everything you read to the terminal, but at least you could vrave. C-ya... Bob Baxter | "Reverend Lee will bring you p00284@psilink.com <-- best | freedom" -- paraphrase of a bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | sticker found outside Mingala's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Village Restaurant, Manhattan From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 20:13:08 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1993 23:10:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Suture Soul... Status: Hey all...I live in the albany area(SUNY-Albany to be exact). If anybody needs to crash after Suture Soul, they are welcome to crash at my place. My roommate never is there on weekend evenings...So I have plenty of space. (I can probably fit 4 people.) See ya, Akeera From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 20:14:35 1993 From: WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu Date: 01 Dec 1993 23:13:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: drugs Status: *what is wrong with condoning drug use? *Nancy-rEagan-list? *the fiend Nothing at all... i do drugs :)... i just dont think that ppl should associate raves with drugs...not all ppl who go to raves do drugs... although... it makes for a more enjoyable time :) :) peace out and rave on... michelle From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 21:39:10 1993 From: revar@mindvox.phantom.com (chuck fletcher) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 93 00:41:19 EST Subject: test Status: please ignore this message, this is just a test. you know i love you all but its still just a test message. chuck *** *** ** ** *** *** revar@phantom.com *** ** *** *** *** REVAR DESIGN AND CONSULTING * * *** * * * * * finger for public pgp 2.3 key From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 22:56:25 1993 From: dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu (Douglas Zimmerman) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 1:55:35 EDT Subject: Re: drugs Status: It was said in the previous message about drugs and raves: > > Nothing at all... i do drugs :)... i just dont think that ppl should associate > raves with drugs...not all ppl who go to raves do drugs... although... it makes > for a more enjoyable time :) :) Well for some people going to Raves is all about taking drugs. I know someone that the reason they go is to take drugs first and other reasons afterwards. I dont feel that she is alone in her opinion. Like it was said in a discussion for some people back a few weeks ago, we all have different reasons for attending raves. Mine is to go and dance and i dont get strange looks for dancing by myself. But ive decided that if people say that "Oh yeah they go there to take drugs..." I reply "Well some people go to take drugs and other people go for other reasons..." but im not going to blanket-wash it and say that "No man its for the music, peace, love, and unity, not the drugs." Cause its simply not true for all. > peace out and rave on... > > michelle > doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 1 23:31:26 1993 From: Gioni Pasquinelli Date: Wed, 1 Dec 1993 23:12:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Virtual Community (fwd) Status: Peck's 10 Characteristics of Community 1. Inclusivity }} 2. Commitment }} Coming together as one, Everybody's voice will be heard 3. Consensus }} 4. Contemplation -Awareness of the group's health 5. A laboratory for personal disamrmament -admitting imperfections and not having to be defensive about it 6. Fighting gracefully 7. A group of all leaders -Gatekeeping moves from a role to a norm 8. A safe place -acceptance, free to be youself, group wants authenticity 9. Realism -a wider pool of opinions 10.A spirit -non-competitive Also in last Sunday's San Jose Mercury News there was an article in Living about Virtual Communities which contained an interview with Howard Rheingold the editor of the Whole Earth Review and one of the orignal WELL members in 1985. Did you all know that the WELL stands for Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link. And also in West Magazine inside the paper there was another article on e-mail, newsgroups and chat lines, etc. Peace, G Gioni Pasquinelli pasque@hamlet.ucdavis.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 00:27:20 1993 From: @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:ST000912@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 00:27:16 PST Subject: rom addition Status: Hey kids, I'm reposting this because it was left off of the ROM, kindasorta Saturday, December 4 RHODE ISLAND (in ri) (401) 454 - 6028 Evolution Phactory (in ma) (617) 541 - 4258 BALU PRESENTS E V O L U T I O N F A C T O R Y DEC 4: 8 PM until 8 AM evolution in action Spinning your world: OSHEEN FRESH BLEND SMART BASMART BAR*OPEN FIRE*CHILL AREAS NOAH SIR CHARLES INTELLIGENT LIGHTING*MEGABASS SYSTEM 333 SWAYNE LASER AND VIDEO FX*SENSORIUM DALE CHARLES JOEL ____________________________________________________________________________ Love and Frogs!!! neith MATT DJ FRESH BLEND From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 07:12:02 1993 From: Handi-boy Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 10:11:53 EST Subject: Re: newsweek Status: > > yeah, i read that with equal chagrin...but it felt a little weird reading > in Newsweek that I had taken ecstasy, being a raver and all, because I > sure don't remember when I did it....:) > > > > .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... > ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ > ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... Well, there's your problem-->you've done TOO MANY DRUGS to remember...maybe if you weren't a raver, you'd have a much better memory... :) hee -Handi From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 07:35:34 1993 From: Matt C Bonde Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 09:34:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: under1sky Status: i need to know if there is any way to reach heather from under 1 sky through the net... is she connected? matt MOT/MASSIVE alpacino@csd4.csd.uwm.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 09:25:40 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 09:24:11 -0800 Subject: Re: under1sky Status: No, Heather is not net-connected. You can reach her by calling Groove Records at (718) - 714 - 5232. Laura From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 09:36:49 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 12:36:34 -0500 Subject: Suture Soul Status: OK everybody..... I goofed. I had thought that Suture Soul would be this weekend. Thankfully, considering how much work I have to do, it is _next_ weekend the 11th. At least, according to the flyer Jig showed me yesterday. Phew :) Of course, the offer of crash space is still open. Can't wait to meet you all on my home turf. Should we start planning a pre-dinn? I'll organize (tho I don't get out much, so I'll have to go on friends' recommend- ations---maybe some Albany folks could recommend. Akeera? Manish?) peace, love and other ooey-gooey things nate -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 11:35:42 1993 From: David Sarcastic Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 14:33:22 -0400 (EST) Subject: Re: newsweek Status: On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Handi-boy wrote: > > yeah, i read that with equal chagrin...but it felt a little weird reading > > in Newsweek that I had taken ecstasy, being a raver and all, because I > > sure don't remember when I did it....:) > > Well, there's your problem-->you've done TOO MANY DRUGS to remember...maybe > if you weren't a raver, you'd have a much better memory... > :) > > hee yeah, i should now write to Newsweek and tell them that i know I sent them money for a subscription, I just forget when exactly, with that raver sieve mind, so they should just start sending me issues...:) .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 11:49:53 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 14:48:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: UGG..I can't decide Status: Would someone be able to way me one way or the other as to which rave I should go to this weekdn...Richmond or Pitts? Uggg...I hate decisions Melzie From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 12:20:13 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 15:18:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: best of 1993.. Status: The year is again closing. Are you ready for the best-of's again!! :) wooo! _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 13:08:42 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 13:08:16 -0800 Subject: Re: best of 1993.. Status: Don't be too hasty on the Best Of's!!!! There are still a few more raves left in the year! Wait til January so as to be fair to things happening in December. :-) Laura From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 13:29:34 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1993 15:59:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Suture Soul pre-dinner??? Status: From what I've heard (rumors only) the location is in Latham? Is this correct? From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: there's: Mangia's Italian Pizza Restaurant *** Fridays **1/2 Pizzeria Unos **** Denny's ** Cranberry Bog *** Garcia's Mexican *** Somebody pick...I'm Impartial(DENNY'S!). I really don't care.(DENNY'S!) Whatever somebody chooses I'm up for.(DENNY'S!) *evil grin* sorry, had to put in the subliminal advertising. }:^) -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 14:13:05 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 17:12:51 -0500 Subject: i'z gots da shakes... Status: i need a fix, man...bad! vrave has been down *all* aft'noon...since like 3pm...man oh man oh man....*shiver* is it could in here, or is it just me? huh? why dont you answer me? why are you staring? get away, get away man....aaaaaaarrrrrgggghhhhh! happy holidays...:) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 14:46:03 1993 From: prastowo@students.wisc.edu (deez) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 16:45:07 -0600 Subject: Warp Core preparty (Fri) Status: I know that most of you can skip this message since most of you won't be in the mid-west area or Madison, WI for that matter, so you can shoot me later. If anyone is going to be here (Madison) early for Warp Core Breach, I know of a preparty on Friday night that Davey Dave is spinning. Anyone interested in going can e-mail me so that i can take a head count of how many people are interested. The address is: prastowo@students.wisc.edu If you're a townie like me, and you'd like to give me a call instead, my phone number is 608-256-7852. Tommy Sunshine will be playing some of his favorites as well at this party. So come and hang out boogie wit' some chilled out folks......peace. -Andi ("on-dee") From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 15:23:35 1993 From: shum@merle.acns.nwu.edu Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 17:23:30 -0600 Subject: ??? Status: i just finished a new breakbeat mix tape called COOKIN UP DA WAX 90 minutes of 100% jungalizm side a is a mixture of old and new piano-ey happy stuff with some ragga hints side b is darker more percussion-oriented stuff as always, this tape is free for all as long as you pay the postage and send me a blank tape or pay me for the blank tape. last time, i spent a lot of money sending out copies of TDI direct inquiries to: shum@merle.acns.nwu.edu yours,m (snuggles) cookin up ya brain From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 15:41:07 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 18:38:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Suture Soul pre-dinner??? Status: >Somebody pick...I'm Impartial(DENNY'S!). I really don't care.(DENNY'S!) >Whatever somebody chooses I'm up for.(DENNY'S!) *evil grin* sorry, had to put >in the subliminal advertising. }:^) hehehe. Sounds good to me.(FOOD!) Either Denny's or Pizzeria Uno's, but even though I love Uno's it's a little expensive.(FOOD!) Any which way, count me in.(FOOD!) By the way, this is my first event as a net-raver so I really hope lots of people can make it to the pre-dinner so I can meet all of you! =) ___ (:)=====/__/\=(:)(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email & telephone: |=| |\| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |=| _\_ \ __/\||=| Government Dept. |\| 1-900-PSY-CHIC |=| |\| / /\ \ \ |=|(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=|/ / /__\/ |\||\| "Medium is the perfect word to describe TV; |\| |\/__/ \ |=||=| it is neither rare nor well-done." |=| |=\__\/\ \ |\||\| -Woody Allen |\| (:)==\__\/====(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE MEETS ALL FDA, FCC, BBC, GPA, NBC, AFK, AND FTP STANDARDS From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 16:05:14 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 19:05:06 EST Subject: Found on a Package of Oatmeal Status: Hm...my friend was having breakfast this morning and we happened to see this on her wrapper for Quaker Instant Oatmeal: (in big letters) WHAT'S HOT? Hot Music: What's the difference between "house" and "rave" music? A. House can only be played indoors. B. House has no piano, rave does. C. Rave has more beats per minute than house. D. Rave is on the West Coast, house is on the East Coast. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Their answer: C. House is generally 120 beats per minute, rave is 132 beats per minute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- d'oh. wfs jetta. From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 16:59:01 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 19:57:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: UGG..I can't decide (fwd) Status: Hossam wanted me to forward this :) >Would someone be able to way me one way or the other as to which rave I >should go to this weekdn...Richmond or Pitts? depends on what ya like...look at the lineups...regardless of what joe tries to say, ALGO 3 is gonna be a hardcore party...:) i dont get off to hardcore, so im going to generation...heres the lineups: generation: josh wink - nervous/sorted records dieselBoy * pittsburgh todd krulak - music now / d.c. laura * new jersey speed demon * va john rainbow humphrey * n.c. chadE - space/richmond enzyme *charlottesville/cyber tiff'nE * trancefused/wdce/richmond + others - TBA live performance by method one * i love josh's grooves, damians break..and have really enjoyed the little taste ive gotten of laura's hard/acid trance....stay wikked people! algo 3-supernature: Lenny Dee (Industrial Strength Records, Bastard Loud recording artist) Frankie Bones (Storm Rave, Groove Records) DJ ESP (Labworks, ex Adam and Eve recording artist) Your Millenium DJ's: Deadly Buda (Evil Wildstyle Messiah) Soji Fu (Hardcore Junglist) Side 2 (Cyber Dread Funkster) Finger (Mellow Man) + FX (Hardcore Death Metal Rockbot) Terry Kicks (Underground House Thumper) Special Features * " 1.8.7 Will start off the night conducting a supernatural soundscape designed specifically for this event. More than just a PA, this will summon as yet unknown forces beyond time&space" 'nuff respect to these dj's and esp. our own, 1.8.7--but the line up is just *too* hard for me... regardless of where you end up going, youre gonna have a *GREAT* time! so get out there, support the scene and play hard! play safe! **i'm out like damian's wardrobe...** peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 17:03:57 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 20:02:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Okee! Status: After 22 messages in four hours telling me to go to Generation...a threat if I don't from And-E :") and a loving request from Fluff :) How could I resist......GENERATION!!!!! See ya there!!!!! Melzie From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 17:16:34 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 20:14:23 EST Subject: EVOLUTION PHACTORY Status: is anyone in BOSTON interested in going? is anyone from BOSTON going? cuz little ol me needs a ride reeeeeeeeeeel bad!!! please help me if you can...ill try to make it worth your trouble. ;) sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 17:44:41 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 20:36:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hom-2 Status: Hey! Please mail me as SOON as you know if you can offer people rides..... [melzie@wam.umd.edu] They are VERY interested int he rave and I'd hate to see nyone not be able to go for lack of a ride...if you're coming from the north and could possibly pick one of the DC or College Park people up on the way :) So e-mail or call [410.653.1274] with info....Tanx!!! Melzie aka FINALLY found Gil a gift [Shhh! :) ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DC - UM HOM OF THE WEEK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 3 Buzz DC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 3 Wiggle 3 VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Christopher XtoFer [can offer tons of crash sapce] cte9q@virginia.edu Mono STU_AWMEYERS@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU Nick Mcdowell [along with a crew of newbies :)] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, December 4 Generation VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Melzie Grooviest Coconut melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Cyberpun aka Digital.Druid cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Dan Anarchy anarchy@eng.umd.edu Derek Tiffan-E TIFFANYDE@urvax.urich.edu Jen Smeddy Jen-bug [doin de bar :) ] smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Fiend Fiend [Needs a ride from NJ] 6ANTHONY_M@spcxva.spc.edu Suzy Suzyd [NEEDS RIDE from College Park] suzyd@wam.umd.edu Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Mike Inhumn Stephen [NEEDS RIDE from Pitts] 00117117@ysub.ysu.edu Sandy Good vibe [NEEDS RIDE from Del] sandi@brahms.udel.edu Matt [NEEDS RIDE from College Park] mmj@wam.umd.edu Boris [wonders if there's a pre-gath] bfeldman@students.wisc.edu Hossam China Christopher XtoFer cte9q@virginia.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 4 Evolution Phactory Providence, RI ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Laszuk Fresh Blend st000912@brownvm.brown.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 10 Buzz DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Buzz [ladies night] DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 19:21:35 1993 From: David Sarcastic Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1993 22:20:21 -0400 (EST) Subject: Re: Found on a Package of Oatmeal Status: On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Vanessa Wang wrote: > Hot Music: What's the difference between "house" and "rave" music? > > A. House can only be played indoors. i thought it was this one. like garage can only be played in garages. and that techno subgenre "national park" can only be played in, yup, you guessed it, national parks. :) .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 20:58:50 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 22:33:13 EST Subject: RE: Packages of Oat cereal Status: Well, at least it's better than something like a) House partiers do LSD b) Ravers do MDMA c) They're all drugged out lunatics I'll pick c) for myself, thank you very much, followed by a bottle of Chateua Laffitte '89 :) Terence From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 22:50:44 1993 From: FIEND <6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 01:49:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: drugs Status: >Nothing at all... i do drugs :)... i just dont think that ppl should associate >raves with drugs...not all ppl who go to raves do drugs... although... it makes >for a more enjoyable time :) :) >peace out and rave on... >michelle well, the media will never show raves as a bunch of people getting together, being happy, and having a good time. that wont get any ratings, and the whole point of the media is to make money.. the fiend From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 22:54:36 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Thu, 2 Dec 93 22:30:18 EST Subject: Best of '93 Status: My best of '93: getting on the rave lists and reading what you guys have to say, chatting with you on vrave, and dancing, trancing and raving with you guys!!! Terence From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 23:09:06 1993 From: David Sarcastic Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 02:08:32 -0400 (EST) Subject: Re: Best of '93 Status: On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Terence R. Strick wrote: > My best of '93: > > getting on the rave lists and reading what you guys have to say, > chatting with you on vrave, and dancing, trancing and raving with you guys!!! i second that emotion.....:) .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 23:19:47 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 02:17:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: UGG..I can't decide Status: On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Mel-zo-rama wrote: > > Would someone be able to way me one way or the other as to which rave I > should go to this weekdn...Richmond or Pitts? > > Uggg...I hate decisions > > > Melzie > Well Melzie, you already know my answer. It will be one hell of a party with both Bones and Lenny spinning but hey there will be another one soon right? Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 23:30:52 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 02:30:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: GENERATION PRE PLANS Status: hey, ive had a lot of requests about generation pre-gatherings and dinners. well, i only have one suggestion...things will be SO hectic setting up that neither derek nor I will have any time to do a pre dinner-however, we COULD all meet at the site (directions availible SOON) and get a bunch of pizzas or something...thats all we really have time to do. feel free to make your own plans, though... if you are interested in this, email me... -jason/stressed-as-all-get-out-with-no-sleep-and-falling-gpa lederjaso@urvax.urich.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 23:33:55 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 02:33:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: directions Status: GENERATION directions will be availible by early afternoon on friday...sorry for the wait, folks. either me or derek will post them, or you can call the ol infoline:804.288.5832 kill rhythm, -jason/m1 From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 23:43:19 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 02:42:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: generation info line (duh) Status: sorry, i think i gave the wrong number in my past generation posts (its 2:30 am and im SOOOOO tired) the correct number is 804.768.2000 . if i gave out the 288-5832 number, that is my personal phone-feel free to call if you want, but the directions will be on the infoline... sorry for the screwup, jason/m1 From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 2 23:44:12 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 02:39:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Algo3-SuPerNatUre After-hours Status: There is an afterhours party in the works for Algo3 in Pittsburgh, anyone who is comming and needs the address and info please email me. It will start immediately following the rave. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 01:42:24 1993 From: MUNTERMA@ACC.HAVERFORD.EDU Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 04:44 EDT Subject: RE:Found on a Package of Oatmeal Status: IN%"jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu writes Hm...my friend was having breakfast this morning and we happened to see this on her wrapper for Quaker Instant Oatmeal: (in big letters) WHAT'S HOT? Hot Music: What's the difference between "house" and "rave" music? A. House can only be played indoors. B. House has no piano, rave does. C. Rave has more beats per minute than house. D. Rave is on the West Coast, house is on the East Coast. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Their answer: C. House is generally 120 beats per minute, rave is 132 beats per minute. ADDITION:.....but both are fuckin' phat! -Matt (munterma@haverford.edu) From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 07:31:14 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 10:29:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: i'z gots da shakes... Status: On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > i need a fix, man...bad! vrave has been down *all* aft'noon...since like > 3pm...man oh man oh man....*shiver* is it could in here, or is it just me? hehe hossam...i when through the withdraw too :) Its back up soooo...vrave til your heart is content :) Hope to see you all this weekend at Generation...Stop by the bar and say "hi!" Huggs to all, Jennifer (jenn-bug) Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 07:43:46 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 10:39:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: pre-party generation Status: ok there WILL be a pre-party dinner thang saturday evening at 8:00 near richmond...we are not sure where yet so.... call 1.800.374.4434 extention 20051 (the extention number is very very important!) saturday afternoon and i will list directions to the place that we will be eating at ok :) oh yeah if you call to meet us tell us your name(s) and what time you think that you will be arriving so we know... so far it is: and-e, steve (fluffhead), and myself (jenn-bug) hope to see ya all at the moble pre-party :):) Love ya all, Jennifer Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 07:56:24 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 10:54:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Pre-Suture Soul meal... Status: It starts at 10 pm right? So....I want to officially decree the Denny's on Western Avenue in Albany as the pre-Suture Soul dinner place. I figured somebody better, so people can start making plans. I will be there with one or two people, we will make sure we are there around 8:15-8:30. (it's a 5 minute walk from my dorm, and I'll have a car that day) We will grab one of the big tables in the back(hopefully), or maybe even the one right by the door. that one would be perfect. So: When: December 11, 1993 8:15-10:00pm Where: Denny's @ Western Ave in Albany, near the Thruway/Northway entrance Why?: To eat.... :) -Akeera btw-so who _is_ going to Suture Soul? Do we have a headcount yet? From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 08:12:22 1993 From: Xiola Date: Fri, 03 Dec 93 11:07:36 EST Subject: drugs and the media Status: the media has already done some propaganda on raves. i think it was 20/20 or 60 minutes. they interview a girl in the S.F. scene, she had experienced a bad trip on acid and was currently in counseling or something. they didn't talk about raves or vibes or PLUR or music or anything except this chick who went to a rave and had a bad trip. sensationalism sells... UNITY AND PEACE, xiola enjoy your head From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 08:36:46 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 11:36:30 EST Subject: Re: Best of '93 (fwd) Status: > > On Thu, 2 Dec 1993, Terence R. Strick wrote: > > > My best of '93: > > > > getting on the rave lists and reading what you guys have to say, > > chatting with you on vrave, and dancing, trancing and raving with you guys!!! > > i second that emotion.....:) > > > > .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... > ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ > ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... > OH MY! ABSOLUTELY! :) see you all next year, or earlier, i hope! :) the TNP party is gonna be really great, like it or not :) O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 09:05:15 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 12:01:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Pre-Algo3/SuPerNaTurE Dinner Status: A pree gathering of the pb-cle netravers is being planned. It will most likely be at an Eat&Park (kinda like Dennys for you non-Pittsburghers) which is within walking distance of the site. Email me for details. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 09:43:48 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 12:46:12 +0500 Subject: Re: Best of '93 Status: >> My best of '93: >> >> getting on the rave lists and reading what you guys have to say, >> chatting with you on vrave, and dancing, trancing and raving with you guys!!! > >i second that emotion.....:) i third it. and i also hereby dub Terence R. Strick - STRICK 9. >=) ___ (:)=====/__/\=(:)(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email & telephone: |=| |\| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |=| _\_ \ __/\||=| Government Dept. |\| 1-900-PSY-CHIC |=| |\| / /\ \ \ |=|(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=|/ / /__\/ |\||\| "Medium is the perfect word to describe TV; |\| |\/__/ \ |=||=| it is neither rare nor well-done." |=| |=\__\/\ \ |\||\| -Woody Allen |\| (:)==\__\/====(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE MEETS ALL FDA, FCC, BBC, GPA, NBC, AFK, AND FTP STANDARDS From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 11:17:54 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 14:08:27 EST Subject: SUTURE STOMACH Status: Ok, here we go...according to Akeera's excellent planning, we'll all meet up at S U T U R E S T O M A C H pre-rave din din at Denny's > When: December 11, 1993 8:15-10:00pm > Where: Denny's @ Western Ave in Albany, near > the Thruway/Northway entrance > Why?: To eat.... :) > btw-so who _is_ going to Suture Soul? Do we have a headcount yet? GOOD QUESTION!!!!! who is going? mail me with your name email address, and I'll compile the list. sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu cool ~~ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 11:26:59 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 14:26:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: thanks for puttin up with.... Status: sorry, the generation directions are not yet on the infoline...we should have them (for real) in a little bit....there have been a lot of things going on, so we havent had time yet to figure the directions out... why didn't i find a calm hobby, like needlepoint or checkers or something?? PLUR to all putting up with us, -jason/method one >>>generation=no sleep for jason<<< From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 13:23:19 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 13:23:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Mit accounts... Status: I am going back East pretty csoon and will lose my local call to get on the net then. A while a go I heard some nice myth about being able to get an account somewhere at MIT without being a student and was wondering if this is true, and if it is, how I go about doing it :) anyway, thanks for any info... dave From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 14:02:22 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 17:00:00 EST Subject: suture stomach & soul Status: first list= jim sexton amherst akeera albany sprockett boston nate troy anyone else? sprock.. kumquat@acs.bu.edu From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 15:06:33 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 18:08:58 +0300 Subject: Newbie request Status: Ok all, I have what should be a fairly ignorant newbie request so if you can't stand that sort of stuff stop now. Anyway, I am an amateur DJ but I have been asked to do a college party in February. What I was wondering was if anyone in upstate NY (I will be in Ithaca) knows where I can rent DJ equipment - a good mixer, some 1200's, lights, smoke machine, etc. If you don't have any specific info on where I can get this stuff, do you have any general advice on how to go about getting it? I would post this to bpm, but I have requested a subsription there several times and I think I have the wrong address (btw, anyone know where to email for a subsription to the bpm list?). Thanks in advance. =) ___ (:)=====/__/\=(:)(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email & telephone: |=| |\| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |=| _\_ \ __/\||=| Government Dept. |\| 1-900-PSY-CHIC |=| |\| / /\ \ \ |=|(:)==========================(:)======================(:) |=|/ / /__\/ |\||\| "Medium is the perfect word to describe TV; |\| |\/__/ \ |=||=| it is neither rare nor well-done." |=| |=\__\/\ \ |\||\| -Woody Allen |\| (:)==\__\/====(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE IS ONLY A SAMPLE. NOT FOR RETAIL SALE. From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 15:08:38 1993 From: lindaleigh@aol.com Date: Fri, 03 Dec 93 18:07:55 EST Subject: Bass Bins To PGH Status: Hey All !!! From the unusual request catagory I present the following: Our friends from Turbo-Zen in Pittsburgh who are doing Algorithm 3 this Saturday have a favor to ask.................if anybody in NY/Philly area has: A. A truck capable of holding an economy-large-size bass bin. B. Has the inclination to pick up said bass cabinet. C. Has the further inclination to drive out to Pittsburgh this weekend... Then the Turbo-Zen guys have a proposition for you. Deliver the goods, and the T-Z folks will welcome you and three guests to the event, free of charge. Sound too good to pass up? Sound ludicrous? Well, they don't have their hopes set too high, but I said I'd pass along the request. Anyway, their number is 412-381-2814, ask for John. Wherever you are this weekend, have a great time. :) Sadly, I'll be slaving over a hot cardiac monitor this weekend. :( Peace, Linda Leigh From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 15:16:20 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 18:02:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: SupErNatUrE - Pre-dinner/Afterhours Status: Ok, here the information everyone has asked me to post. Hopefully this will help. The Pre-Algo dinner: 8:30pm at Eat N Park in McKee's Rocks, near the wharehouse that the rave will be held in. Try to be there around 8:30. If you plan on comming please give a description of what you'll have on to the people on the pb-cle-raves list so that we all know who to look for. I can't gaurantee I'll be there at exactly 8:30pm because I might be involved somewhat with setting up/soundcheck. I do plan to stop by though. The Afterhours: Following the rave the afterhours will take place at 133 (NOT 313) Chesterfield st in the Oakland section of Pittsburgh. Please note that the person who is doing the afterhours will also be comming back from the rave so if you beat her to her place try not to make alot of noise as it is a residential Street. 1200's and a small sound system will be set up in the basement. Get Hype and I'll see you there. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 15:59:49 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 18:59:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: FINALLY>>>>>GENERATION DIRECTIONS/INFO<<<<< Status: ok, heres the deal... FROM ALL POINTS OUTSIDE OF RICHMOND: -follow either interstate 95 or 64 to richmond -take exit 79 for 195 south -follow to powhite parkway exit (.35 toll) -shortly after the toll, take exit for 60 west (Midlothian trnpk) -turn right onto midlothian and follow for approx. 8 miles -you will see a sign for Sommerville and a C&P station -make a rt. onto Wylderose drive. -site is at 201 wylderose SMALL NOTE: we have gone pretty far over our budget to pull this thing off... while we will still honor the origional ticket price of $8, we would appreciate it greatly if you could possibly pay $10 so we can continue throwing events...yeah, i know its pathetic :) but....oh well any questions? feel free to email -jason/bleah/method one From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 16:41:41 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 19:41:22 -0500 Subject: Re: SUTURE STOMACH Status: On Dec 3, 2:08pm, Kristopher Setchfield wrote: > Subject: SUTURE STOMACH > > Ok, here we go...according to Akeera's excellent planning, we'll all meet up at > > > > > S U T U R E S T O M A C H > > > pre-rave din din at Denny's > > > When: December 11, 1993 8:15-10:00pm > > Where: Denny's @ Western Ave in Albany, near > > the Thruway/Northway entrance > > Why?: To eat.... :) > > btw-so who _is_ going to Suture Soul? Do we have a headcount yet? > > > > GOOD QUESTION!!!!! > > who is going? > > mail me with your name email address, and I'll compile the list. > > sprockett > kumquat@acs.bu.edu > > cool > ~~ >-- End of excerpt from Kristopher Setchfield Well, I"m going. I think that I have a carfull (including John W.[?]) if I can only find a car. But I'm a resourceful boy. I sent Melzie a list of people that I was sure were going for inclusion in the HOM. I was not sure about you. But Tai and Akeera and myself and Jigsaw and JOhn are on there. I'm hoping that if others see some names on there, folks will drive in from all over. Or at least near by. peace nate -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 17:46:31 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 20:46:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Status: hey, if you have any GENERATION questions and can't get through to the infoline (804)768-2000 feel free to call me at (804)288-5832 (personal line) hope to see you all here, -jason/method one From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 18:30:39 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 93 21:27:59 EST Subject: suture stomach v.2 Status: ok, herewegoooooooooo....... v.2 includes: Nate Akeera Tai Jigsaw John Jim Sprockett what about all you other upstate ravers..or downstate for that matter.... manish? Jake? if we can get 15 or more of us together, i'll get us a discount!!!!!!! ahhhh...the pleasures of ne-tting ;) so, is anyone else interested? tons of crash space remember...akeera and nate(?) offerred, and i can provide some too... if you're gonna come...bring some friends, doesn't matter to me if they're not on the net (YET!!!!), i'll still work a deal....we just gotta make at least 15. just think how wonderful meeting your fellow net-raver is...making new friends......seeing old ones......listening to fine, cultured music at volumes that'll implode your eardrums if you're not careful. ahhhhh to rave or not to rave...... i'll rave ;) sprockett From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 18:50:20 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1993 18:50:14 -0800 Subject: Re: suture stomach v.2 Status: Do we REALLY need hourly updates on the status of who is going to what rave? Arranging hookups is important, I'll agree, but there is such a thing as overkill. Fluid used to organize a global hook-up list that went out once a week. Maybe this could be revived, and go out like every other day or something. Laura From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 19:47:10 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1993 22:46:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: GENERATON direction change! Status: hey, we screwed up on the previous directions. here are the complete accurate ones. FROM POINTS SOUTH: follow 95n or 64w to the richmond metro area. 64w and 95n become one highway at richmond. follow this just PAST the "boulevard" exit, the road forks. bear right and follow 64 W to the right. take immediate left exit to 195 south. continue from ** below FROM POINTS NORTH: take 95 s into the richmond metro area. take exit for 195 south. continue from ** **follow 195 south , take the powhite parkway exit and follow the parkway to the toll booth (35 cents). immediatly after toll take left exit to chippenham parkway south . follow to the second midlothian turnpike exit (midlothian east-toward richmond). follow 1.5 miles to 5450 midlothian turnpike on the left across from the super flea market. there is free, secure parking behind the building and additional parking across the street in the Super Flea parking lot sorry about the mixup! -jason/method one From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 21:30:59 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 00:29:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: suture stomach v.2 Status: On Fri, 3 Dec 1993, Laura La Gassa wrote: > Fluid used to organize a global hook-up list that went out once a > week. Maybe this could be revived, and go out like every other > day or something. That's what I've tried to do basically....only I have one in the begining of the week so people that need or can offer rides are able to ask early enough..and one near the end..more of final count and who Desperatly needs a ride etc....is the way I started doing it alright? Melzie From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 3 23:51:17 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 2:51:08 EST Subject: a quote Status: Hi kids, Just a little something that popped out of my logout fortune cookie program .. seemed worth reproducing: "The bonds that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each others life. Rarely do members of one family grow up under the same roof." -- Richard Bach lova yaz all, and have a great and massive time wherever you are this weekend, okay? :) O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 02:47:35 1993 From: Derek Tiffany Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 05:47:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: generation directions... Status: I though Jason was going to post the revised directions...but I didn't see them...soo... follow interstates 95 or 64 into Richmond take the exit for 195 South take Powhite Pkwy exit. take the first exit to the left after the toll (.35) for Chippenham Parkway South take the Midlothian Turnpike (rt. 60) East exit and follow for 1.5 miles. turn left at the first light after the channel 12 tv station. the site is the nite world complex. there is plenty of free parking... notes: Jenn...I know you're not too happy about this. you can call Val at 804.231.9807 and discuss things...I have other things to worry about like the $2000 I am expecting to loose. ITV (Chris) - I don't think it's such a wise idea bringing what we talked about at Flesh... Rob C. - Unfortunately, I don't think there will be any room for you. I hate to cancell your set-up, but I am afraid I must...please do not come if you get this message... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 03:20:28 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 06:18:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Techno-compilations Status: I was at the local record store(Record Town), and I saw two new mixes on Cd: 140BPM: The Joint Cheer:the laundry detergent? <--don't quote me on this one this looks like Zoo rave one....must be follw-up How are these? At _this_ record store they were 16.99. :( I can get them for 11.98-13.99 back home, so I didn't buy either of them. I would apppreciate some criticism of each, if anybody knows about it. Thanx... -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 07:57:22 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 10:57:15 EST Subject: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: Heya all, How many of you will be around the NYC area during the Xmas/New Years holiday time? I know that Jetta will be in NJ around that time, and Brian B is coming down on Dec 30 ... how about a little pavement-stomping in NYC? O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 10:07:14 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 13:05:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: The Desperate of the week Status: We still need rides for someone in Delaware, Pittsburg, and College Park Please call me if you can offer any of these people rides..... [Suzy and Matt are now Hooked :) ] Melzie From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 12:23:03 1993 From: Phil Z Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 15:22:55 EST Subject: Re: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: FiSH sez: > How many of you will be around the NYC area during the Xmas/New Years > holiday time? I know that Jetta will be in NJ around that time, and Brian B > is coming down on Dec 30 ... how about a little pavement-stomping in NYC? I sez: Count me in- I'm staying in the city through the holidays, and would love to get together around and about the city! Phil Z From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 12:25:53 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 15:16:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: *URGENT Algo3-SuPerNaTurE SITE/DINNER CHANGE. Status: Ok, Joel (Deadly Buda) has just informed me that the location will no longer be in Urban Assault. It will be at the Irish centre in Squirell Hill, the same sight that was used for High Voltage and Soul. If you are comming from out of town call the infoline (412)734-5549 for directions upon arrival or go to Slacker on Carson St. for maps. Hopefully someone at the original site will have maps and there may possibly be a shuttle. What this means for the dinner is unknown, I supposed everyone could still meet there however I will not be able to make it then. A much better alternative would be the Eat N Park in Squirel Hill. My recommendation therefore is for all who were comming to the dinner to meet at the original Eat N Park and go to the one in Squirel Hill to actually eat. Make sense? Reason for all this confusion: Joel said the people at Urban Assualt were getting "kinda wierd" with him and the lasers needed a higher ceiling and unubstructed range. See you all at the Irish centre on Forward Ave in Squirel Hill at 10pm :) Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 13:19:53 1993 From: br00014@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Matthew Lehrer) Date: Sat, 4 Dec 93 16:17:45 EST Subject: Re: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: I'll be back home in Queens as well from Dec. 18 to about Jan. 20. It would be cool to hang out and meet some NYC ravers. - Matthew Lehrer From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 13:35:21 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 16:32:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: direction to pre party... Status: ok here is the deal! we do not know where we are eating but we are leaving from dc right now...(at 4:30) so we should arive in richmond at 7:30... so EVERYONE call the line 1.800.374.4434 extion 20051 at that time for where we are eating :) hope to see everyone there :) Peace, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug remember the extenion number is very important :) From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 14:14:39 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 17:12:53 -0500 Subject: re:x-mas, etc. in NYC Status: I'll still be stuck up in amherst, but i'll have plenty of time to coast down and visit... anyone care to lend a piece of floor in NYC? i'll give it right back =) jim From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 15:03:50 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 17:47:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: what to do over Xmas.. Status: Dont know what you people have planned for new years, but I would *highly* recommend Ultraworlds Resolution in Baltimore . Promises to be another great party - seems many who missed ultraworlds 3-day excursion in the mountains this summer, but read the reviews, realized that they'd missed something special. I wish more people could've been there to share it. Anyway, Ultraworld 9 promises 333, Josh Wink, Micro, DJ Sun, Jason Jinx, Scott Henry, Dave Trance, and Lieven DeGeyndt in the main room. Onionz, Sameer, Who, MGee, Ryde, and Tom T in a second room. Finally, something thats been missing a lot lately, a chillout room with Ambient DJs Wash, Entity, John Hicks, and Wordmosesripple. Also, visuals by Melon Dezign and Lasers by Pawn (both who worked at E-IV recently). Ultraworld always go out of there way to make things that much more better, and unlike other recent parties, there will be bathrooms, lit parking, phones, free water, and climate control on demand. Over 37,000 sq ft of smooth clean dance space with super-high ceilings. beautiful. Tickets are $20 in advance. Please be there!!! This is not a paid advertisement for Ultraworld. This is just fluid ranting and raving about something he really believes in. Thankyou. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 15:10:37 1993 From: Kristine Carrol Noel Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 18:10:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: HELP QUICK!! Evo. Factory Status: Hey, Ok I'm out of my hat and need some help!! I haven't seen a list or whisper of anyone going to Evolution Factory in Providence!! (Woonsocket) I am stuck in Worcester Ma high and dry because BOTH of my ride plans fell through!! Could anyone pick me up? Give me directions from a peter pan bus station in Prov or get me there?? Give me directions to hitch hike??!! PLEEEEASE!~ It's been months since I've seen my raving buds and my poor condition due to it has progressed... I NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED TECHNO AND HUGS!! Help me if you can!! Peace! THE KAT IN THE HAT (IS BACK) CCCC|;) From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 16:03:26 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Sat, 04 Dec 1993 19:01:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: SutureSoul/XmasinNYC Status: I will be home from Dec. 21 on, so I can get into the city no prob. It'd be nice to chill in manhattan with some other net-ravers. Suture Soul---> Is anybody coming to the Suture Soul pre-dinner who needs directions? I don't want to post them here and bother everybody with it. Please E-mail me if you don't know how to get to Denny's on Western Avenue in Albany and you are planning on going to the Suture Soul pre-dinner. -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 16:06:51 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 16:06:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: On Sat, 4 Dec 1993, Rishad J. Quazi wrote: > Heya all, > > How many of you will be around the NYC area during the Xmas/New Years > holiday time? I know that Jetta will be in NJ around that time, and Brian B > is coming down on Dec 30 ... how about a little pavement-stomping in NYC? I get back into Boston on Dec 31 at around 2pm... Could be done in the city 6 hours later (and know of places to crash...).. Oh yeah, and so far I am still looking for something to do New Years time...:). dave From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 16:44:26 1993 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Sat, 4 Dec 1993 16:39:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: what to do over Xmas.. Status: i second fluids thoughts on ultraworld...unfortuantely i will be in sf for new years but if i were in town my butt would be in baltimore for lonnies party...I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A SHITTY ULTRAWORLD...and i have been to a LOT of parties...also if you do end up hating the party you can write lonnie on the internet and bitch him out...hehehe(:(: partyon...susie (; From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 4 17:29:07 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Sat, 04 Dec 93 20:26:12 -0400 Subject: Re: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: >DATE: Sat, 4 Dec 93 10:57:15 EST >FROM: Rishad J. Quazi > >Heya all, > > How many of you will be around the NYC area during the Xmas/New Years >holiday time? I know that Jetta will be in NJ around that time, and Brian B >is coming down on Dec 30 ... how about a little pavement-stomping in NYC? > Count me in as well. I just spoke with Margaret (my fiancee), and she said she'd go too. C-ya... Bob Baxter | "Eat papa, eat. Nobody likes p00284@psilink.com <-- best | a skinny Santa Claus." -- bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Mrs. Claus to her husband in bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | 'Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer' From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 02:11:59 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Sun, 05 Dec 93 05:10:35 -0400 Subject: Atomic Babies Status: Does anyone know if the Atomic Babies have a 12", CD or tape out? They played at Technophelia tonight, and I enjoyed their music. In particular, the Babies had this one track that had whale songs sampled into the background. C-ya... Bob Baxter | "Eat papa, eat. Nobody likes p00284@psilink.com <-- best | a skinny Santa Claus." -- bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Mrs. Claus to her husband in bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | 'Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer' From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 03:54:42 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 06:54:25 -0500 Subject: Evolution review (of sorts) and SUTURE plan?(amherst) Status: EVOLUTION PHACTORY Well, the sun is now rising on this sleepy rain-soaked new england town, and it looks like I'll have the first word on evolution. It only seemed appropriate to do this right after i got back, because it was the net that allowed me to go there (well, plus my car) in the first place. I'd like to thank all of you for, well... existing :) I really can't review evolution with any great objectivity. It was my first rave in New England, and it's been so god damn long since the last time i heard techno, etc. in a public space that i was ready to scream. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU It was great!!!!!!!!! some funky stuff, some hard stuff (a little late tho' :) And this was new to me NO COPS =) (well, a few outside, but they seemed to cause no problem). I don't know if the crowd is always that reluctant to get moving, unfortunatlely that was the case in the midwest, so it realy didn't bother me. If you went, and want to chat about it, drop me some mail :) :) I'd love to hear your opinion. I'd also love to put some names with all the new faces. SUTURE AMHERSTITES HEy! Itwould be great if we could get together and form a convoy to SUTURE on the 11th. I have a car with 3-4 empty seats right now, if anyone on the net or off needs a ride. I've talked with Christian (Chris), and he said that he was going + Christina (?) + some others (??). use that email thang!!!!! From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 08:41:26 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 11:41:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: the trials an tribulations of GENERATION (version one) Status: ok...its 10:35 am on sunday...i have just gotten back in and wanted to post while it all is fresh in my tired little mind...so excuse the poor spelling and grammer. im sure that derek will also post, but i thought i needed to say some things.. TWO WORDS : PROMOTER HELL a few of you know the story already, but here it is in condensed form for the rest of you: well, generation was pretty close to being cancelled on friday.. after having no less than THREE sites cancelled on us in the last two weeks (so much for the "always having an alternate site just in case plan"). come friday morning, we had no options left. a large amount of time and money had already been spent, but it looked like we would have no choice but to cancel the whole thing.... NITE WORLD TO THE (UHM) RESCUE! ...thank god for last minute plans...we FINALLY secured a site: the nite world, a sort-of club in richmond. (for all of you wondering, the site problems were the reason for the late directions) unfortunatly, there was a big problem (and several little problems later on, it turns out): renting nite world would set us back $1000, TWICE as much as we were paying before...not a good thing, since we would now need a BIG crowd....an iffy consideration considering the other events that night (algo 3 in pa and soundflower 2 in dc). oh well SATURDAY NIGHT LIVE (NOT) AND ASSD. TALES so, by saturday afternoon, i had my car packed and was ready to go..if nothing else, i was really looking foward to my live set-i had a few brand new songs i was aching to play. so i set up, plug my system into the mixer, and.... uh-oh. no sound. just LOUD electrical humm. a hum that would not go away. *poof* no live set for poor method one :( to top it off, three of our djs were incommunicado.pass the maalox, please! so, at around 10:30, generation actually opened with speed demon on the ol' "wheels of steel". val played his usual seamlessly mixed hardcore for about 1 hr 15 min. next up was laura, who slowed it down for some hard trance ( i think so...) like all the dj's here, she spun a decent set, although for some reason the crowd seemed a bit dead. maybe it was the rain. i dunno. they started to pick up during parts of tzeech's set, but it was kind of depressing for me, the promotor. (tzeech was filling in for the late todd krulak....good stuff too) when todd finally arrived, the mood was getting progressively better (some people told me that a reason for the crowd dullness was a lack of drugs availible...i sure hope that drugs dont have THAT much impact on an event) another reason was the fact that the motel next door kept complaining about the sound, so the club owners wouldn't give our megabuck apple soundsystem room to reach its full potential...though we raised the volume later, some people like to feel their ears bleed . anyway, by mid-way intoo todd's smoooooth set, the vibe was more like the richmond we all know and love...very friendly and caring. the melon dezign visuals didnt hurt either; jake, your stuff is...wow. he had even programmed a computer generation logo to spin around on-screen. speaking of melon, at this point there was an intellibeam pointed right at his screen, and the lighting guy was nowhere to be found. finally discovering him asleep in his van, the problem was fixed and the apple taught me how to use the $4000 light board and went to sleep again. the remainder of the event had lighting provided by *me* heeheee....good thing too, 'cause the next dj was our own dieselBoy. intellibeams outta control for his set :) even though he SWEARS that his set sucked, i listened to the whole thing closely and i have to say this: "damian, you're full of shit....i did not hear ONE screwup, and i was paying attention" gotta love those breaks! yeaaaahhhhhh!!! :) :) :) and after dB, some guy named josh something or other...i think it was "wink" :) heehee...well, what can you say about josh wink other than he rightly deserves all the hype? mix-o-rama. the fact that his stuff was played to a fog-filled room with only dataflash strobes to break the gloom should tell you about his set. i can describe it withfeelings better than words. he's a real nice guy, too. and last, richmonds own chadE tied up the loose ends with a smooth ol' set. also, at 2 am the chill out room opened with rainbow, enzyme, and tiffn'e. the chill out room was SOOO sweet...ambience and lasers...it was beautiful and way laid back. also, i can't forget the brave net-ravers who came/helped/spun: danFREElove, allison (hope your first "north" event was a good one, and-e, laura (mmmm cookies), damian (your set was great. so there), hossam, china, melzie, gil, doug, shell-e, steve/fluff, chris, valentin, lesa, indago, rob rarrouse, rainbow, enzyme, jake/melon, jenn-bug, mars, jypsi, and all who ive forgotten (i need sleep SO badly) THE AFTERMATH well, this has its good and bad points: the good points: we pulled off a pretty good event, all in all. although i didnt have the best time (promotor's stress ? naaaaa :) ) everyone i talked to seemed to be having a good time. but now the bad news: first of all, it left dereks wallet sucking wind to the tune of $800. the djs were REALLY helpful and considerate, taking reduced fees to help us out (thanks). second of all: the preperations for this have dominated me and derek's lives for a month, causing everything to suffer. i have had about 14 total hrs. sleep this week, and 1 decent meal. my classes are shit. oh well. but its done with...time to start thinking of another one.....:) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< (seen but not heard, too :) ) From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 09:52:27 1993 From: Francis L Sibilla Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 12:50:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: I'll be home in philly for the holidays (except for new year's down in Baltimore at Ultraworld). But NY is only 2 1/2 hrs away by public transit - so I'm sure I'll make it up there at some point over the holidays. If we can schedule a specific day or two to hang out etc. maybe we could organize our plans around that. Fran From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 10:03:21 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 13:03:10 EST Subject: TechnoPhelia Review Status: Hello Boys ands Girls, Here's my little review of the latest Technophelia shin-dig (oof!) held on Long Island last night. If you have a good memory, you might recall that there was another Techno- Phelia party about a month and a half ago in October which I raved about. The music, the people and the hosts were among the best combination I had felt at a Long Island rave venue before, so that party stuck in my mind. I was thus really glad to find flyers for this next party at last week's Essence 4 massive. It was a dark and rainy night as i sped down the Long Island Expressway to the Bethpage exit where the party was to be held. Since I arrived pretty late (the party was set to start at 10:30, I reached the site at 1:00), there was no-one at the map-point -- not a good sign considering the pretty bad downpour and the lateness of the hour. Luckily I found a ravey bunch of people to follow and we soon found the space. TechnoPhelia was held in (get this) a mica molding factory/warehouse. As I entered the main lobby/chill-out area I was welcomed by the ever-friendly Technopolis crew who apologized for the empty map point, but they told me that there were apparently some 'undesirables' in the area who had tried to get in earlier and were turned away, and fearing possible retribution from these folks, they had recalled their map-point crew. The chill-out space in itself was an interesting place. A small mica jacuzzi sat to one side with swirling water around which were comfy seats and potted plants. A smart bar was in one corner, and the usual chill-out TV's and ambient music was playing in the back (they played Pink Floyd later in the night, which was very cool -- the old trippy, ambient stuff, not the 70's Wall stuff) I opened up the door to the main dance space and checked out the area. As mentioned above, the party was held in a factory/warehouse. At first I was a little disappointed since the actual dance space was considerably smaller than the previous Technophelia party, though it was not overly crowded which was quite a change from the last few raves I've been to. Another problem was the there was a great big hunk of machinery sort of dividing the dance space, so the crowd was somewhat divided into two. The back of the space had been opened up to let in fresh air. It was interesting to look around the space and see random pieces of heavy machinery and injection molding equipment (i guess :) illuminated for brief instances by the lasers and miniflashes. I soon ran into Bob, and we settled down to a groovey time. The musical content of the night was pretty good -- mostly acidy trance for the time I was there. Around 3:00 or so the Atomic Babies came on and played an interesting mix of 'techno-like' stuff ... they played an opening number which really grabbed me -- a kind of slow (~120 bpm?) trancy, acidy funky groove with overlaid drums. I danced pretty hard for about an hour or so, since all the components were present -- good music, vibey folks and most importantly -- SPACE! My last three rave-like events were The ORb Show, a night at Caffeine and last weekends Essence 4 ... finding a 5 foot square spot to dance in at TechnoPhelia was a little gift from the RaveDeity :) Now for the downer of the evening. Around 3:00, cops showed up at the site. Apparently the gangstas denied admission had snitched to the cops and they arrived at the scene, all six cars .. good to know our taxes are going to good use. At first, they appeared more dumbfounded than anything else ... except for Officer Flanagan (that really was his name :), the other younger cops seemed to be actually kind of getting into it, as far as cops are allowed to show that kind of thing :) These cops were somewhat cool in their dealing with the party -- they didn't order the music turned off, or even down, they didn't hassle anyone as far as I know and for about an hour and a half, they just sort of milled around the site, eventually taking up position near the entrance to the factory. A little while later, the cops apparently had busted some kid outside the space for some drugs and were visibly losing some of their former tolerance of what was happening. The party ended at 4:00am and we all had to trudge home in the rain :( :( - <%#>< PS: Another noteworthy experience I had in the chill-out room was with a little gadget commonly known as as mind-machine. This particular incarnation of the brain-wave stimulators was a simple pair of glasses with LED's that flashed at a certain rate (what is it? 10 Hz or something?) -- you close your eyes and after a while the flashing fuses into a blur, and you start seeing weird things :) I imagined being able to see what was going on in the dance floor even though I was in the chill-out area -- interesting to say the least. It was later explained to me by the young lady demonstrating the device that it was merely stimulating recent visual memories. More Cool Stuph(tm) to buy :) PS/2 Anyone know of the address for the mind-machine list or know off-hand where i can find out more about these things? I know it's out there somewhere. O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 10:36:20 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 13:31:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Ultraworld...... Status: Since I won't be at Resolution [no matter how hard Steve pressures :) ] but I still want to see all of you......I'd like to throw a pre-party for it. My house is about 15 minutes from te site [I've been dragged to 4-H quilt exhibits in these same buildings!!] and it's pretty convientant.... As it is, I've started keeping track of who over the list mentions where they'll be, but as soon as you know, please tell me....let me also know about the pre-party....just so I can have a semi-accurate account :) I'll post my Generation review later.... Melzie aka what a terrible ride home...... From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 10:48:54 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 13:48:49 EST Subject: brain/dream machines Status: Every so often somebody asks about these and here's my response: Create your own "brain machine." This one I am referring to is called a dream machine. It functions the same purpose as those $300 machines that usually consist of a pair of glasses with blinking red LED lights on the inside (at a certain frequency) and headphones (some sort of music or pulsating sound to accompany the lights). I got it from England from a group of people who call themeselves the Temple of Psychic Youth (TOPY) and run a publishing company called the Temple Press. Their claim is that basically, Brion Gysin, the French surrealist/dada artist & painter, invented the dream machine long ago and now, after his death, companies are making a lot of money off a relatively cheap idea. If you flash lights in front of your closed eyes at the same frequency (or hertz) that your brain uses when it is in the theta stage, your brain will enter this theta level. This is the stage inbetween your normal waking consciousness and sleep that so many people try to achieve through meditation and such. Thus, the dream machine is basically a theta wave inducer. It's all very simple. First, dig up or somehow find a turntable/record player that spins at 78 rpm. If you don't have one or anyone you know doesn't have one sitting around (probably collecting dust somewhere), check out second hand shops where you could probably get a perfectly functioning one for around $10 I would imagine. Luckily I had one. There are also many places that clean out homes that you could probably contact and leave your name & phone number with... or call occasionally. You need that speed to achieve the right frequency.. around 7Hz What you order is the template: various shapes and a pattern that you cut out and trace onto heavy paper/card. It also explains the story. Gysin was a good friend of William Burroughs and subsequently associated with the likes of Genesis P'Orridge. After you do all the tracing and cutting out, you insert the ends together to form a long cylindrical shape that goes ontop of your turntable. Next you hang a lightbulb down the middle of this contraption and turn everything on. The result is a flashing light you look at with your eyes closed. Within minutes, you will feel very relaxed and even see a myriad of colorful slight hallucinations. I've got one sitting in my room at home which everyone sitting in the room can enjoy (instead of one person at a time with the glasses/headphones). The Dreammachine Plans can be ordered from: Temple Press Limited P.O. Box 227 Brighton BN2 3GL East Sussex, England The price is 2.95 in British Pounds Sterling. They accept US Dollars as well at the exchange rate of $2 for every pound which comes out to: $5.90. Postage should be added at the following rates: $3.00 per item for SURFACE MAIL (4-6 weeks). If you require AIRMAIL, add an additional $3.00 per item. Checks payable to: Temple Press. I was originally going to scan the plans and make them available for ftp but they are copywrited. SUPPORT THE UNDERGROUND FOLKS! don't support those huge mega-$ companies who are ripping you off for something that should be relatively free. I could make photocopies.... ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 13:15:13 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 15:54:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Review: Generation Status: The night's weather had been soooooo dreary that it had my energy very low....all day had been about trying to find people rides and two of my friends [along with my beloved Gil] were coming along with us. We arrived rather late since it ws normally a 3 hour drive, but the with the horrid weather we drove a bit safer.... We got to the club around 12:30 [Me, Gil, Deirdre, and Surge] There were two rooms, a small one with hip-hop and rap playing and the large one with Laura spinning [ Gil and I bet as to who it was spinning as we walked around the building..I lost :( ] and it ws kind of funny.....a few net people were standing around and I got to give hugs to all :) and then we went in the room.....people were just sittin around...so after a bit we got in a circle and started dancing, this brought a BUNCH of people into it and before we knew it...the room was goin thanks to great energy from Laura's set and unity in our group. This is about the time when my friend met Greg and Chris and spent the rest of the night cooing over them :) It was great seeing Jaosn, Steve, Marshal, Laura etc...last night, only I wish I had had more time to talk to all of them.....as was, Scottbo's friend, Joe and I were talking fencing and Python for awhile near the booth and that took up a bit... My two major points about this rave.... As Derek had originally said at Flesh, it's great when a rave is thrown now by someone of good intent for the right reasons and for this, I loved the event....just very positive..... Also, I have to say that it was wonderful seeing that smile on jason's face while he was doing the lights during Damian's set....t'was great.. Around 2 when the normal club closed, we used where it had been as our chill-out room...the lasers in there were great!! I have to say, Damian's set was wonderful last night, despite what he said......as Gil came back to me after the set drenched in sweat with a HUGE smile across his face sayin' that only Damian could do this :) Okay, I'm going to attempt to name those I saw last night..... Derek, Jason/Method 1, Laura [Congratz and HUGZ], Gil [Love you], Valentin, Jenn-bug, Marshal/Mars, UVA Laura, XtoFer, Alex, Scottbo, Joe, Suzyd, Steve/Fluffhead [HUGZ!], Damian, Jake, China, Itv/Chris, Rob Now I have to tell you the funniest of all things from the night/morning.... GIl and I lefta round 6:30 or so and after a long time on the road we decided to stop off at a Fast food place off of the beltway....we stopped in this remote town called Triangle, VA......as were sitting [well, me sitting, Gil asleep across my cloak and the table :) ] three guys walk in, one of qwhich happens to be Itv [still with the red nose I gave him as Rudolph :) ] weird...... Ah well, so goes another wonderful rave, another wonderful night, and another hope to see new friends in the future.... I'm terribly sorry about Derek's loss.....I guess it's the kind-hearted that lose out since they lack the greed....sukz... Welp, after last night, I decided to hold pre-party for Resolution on New Year's Eve....please mail in if you'd like to come...just so I know how many to expect.. Keep well, Love you.... Melanie aka Melzie From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 13:57:32 1993 From: 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1993 16:56:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: DC Status: hey.. me and two friends might be coming to DC for the weekend.. we are leaving thursday the 8th.. what is BUZZ? is it a club or a rave? anyway.. if anyone wants to hang out or something or has crash space for three of us, lemme know.. lateron the fiend From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 14:10:15 1993 From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 17:07:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: brain/dream machines Status: Dans la Matrice, WILL-E a dit: > > Every so often somebody asks about these and here's my response: > Create your own "brain machine." I have a few suggestions too. > This one I am referring to is called a dream machine. It functions the > same purpose as those $300 machines that usually consist of a pair of glasses > with blinking red LED lights on the inside (at a certain frequency) and > headphones (some sort of music or pulsating sound to accompany the lights). A shareware program ($10) for PCs (windows) called Cool Waveform Editor (on ftp as cooled.zip) which can create a whole bunch of effects including time stretching, tempo change, flanger etc... and it can also generate pink, white, brown noise, waveforms etc... On top of this, you'll get a theta wave generator (in fact it can do from low delta, to theta, to high beta). It works well from musical sources or non-musical sources. Now once you have the .wav, you can make a small flick that will alternate patterns with black at the frequency you chose (or frequency variation) for the .wav. This could easily be done into an MPEG, AVI or Quicktime file that could be played with a Mac or PC with a souncard. Of course very cheap soundcards (a la SB) are more annoying than helpful in reaching relaxed states... Maybe i should release some and put out of work the companies scamming people? Or maybe i could make money too :) Seriously, however i cant produce any quicktime flicks, but i could do a Video for windows thingy... that is, when i'll have some time (maybe before the end of the millenium...) Ciao, -- Francois Dion ' _ _ _ CISM (_) (_) _) FM Montreal , Canada Email: CISM@ERE.UMontreal.CA (_) / . _) 10000 Watts Telephone no: (514) 343-7511 _______________________________________________________________________________ Audio-C-DJ-Fractals-Future-Label-Multimedia-Music-Radio-Rave-Video-VR-Volvo-... From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 15:58:46 1993 From: rsgour@aol.com Date: Sun, 05 Dec 93 18:57:57 EST Subject: Chaos Control Update Status: Chaos Control music magazine now exists in 2 different forms, and a third is about to be added. Issue #4 of the Hypercard version came out last month and contains interviews with Chem Lab, Front 242, Sunscreem, Machines of Loving Grace, You Shriek, IO, EBN, and more. It can be downloaded from America Online, Club Mac (Australia) and will soon be available by ftp from World.std.com. Or, it can be ordered on disk by sending $5 to Bob Gourley, 3 Greenville Dr., Barrington, RI 02806. In addition, all of the articles (as well as issue #3) are in text form on World.std.com in the directory /obi/Zines/Chaos.Control. Chaos Control is about to also become a monthly free-standing electronic magazine in both Mac and Windows 3.1 format. This format may replace the Hypercard version, and the first issue should be out in late December. Featured over the course of the first two issues will be interviews with Aphex Twin, Vapour Space, Howard Jones, Prototype 909, One Dove, Curve, Cabaret Voltaire, In The Nursery, Moby and KMFDM. This edition will also be available over AOL or on disk. If anyone is on a BBS and would be willing to upload, let me know and I'll send you a free copy on disk. -Bob Gourley Chaos Control Digizine rsgour@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 16:56:39 1993 From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 16:56:20 -0800 Subject: Re: Chaos Control Update Status: It's now available on techno.stanford.edu as well, under /pub/raves/media/ chaos.control. It's ftp'able, gopher'able, and WWWable. Enjoy. Brian From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 17:47:30 1993 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 20:47:03 -0500 Subject: gifs @ techno... Status: one of those is mislabled...."preloft" is just susie, christian, craig (cmk) and I outside of a pizza place one night all meeting craig for the first time... just thought i'd set that straight....no idea what is should be called thogh love and frogs!!! neith From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 22:14:09 1993 From: DANIEL60@delphi.com Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 01:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HELP ME!! To anyone accessing INTERNET using DELPHI... Status: I'm new to the system...and was wondering how one would change their "User Name" so that one could change the name on their E-mail address so th to more creative? I would appreacha Thank You Net Runner P.S. Are their any other BBS like this? P.S. are their any other BBS like this one? From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 23:15:53 1993 From: DANIEL60@delphi.com Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 02:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: HELP ANy DELPHI users... Status: I'm new to the system.. and was wondering how would I change my "User name"...By doing that will it change the name on my E-MAIL address? Thanks, Net Runner From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 23:33:25 1993 From: grant@world.std.com (Grant D McHerron) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 02:33:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Oh, wot a wikkid weekend :) Status: Hey Folks, Well, didn't I have a great time, sooooo much better than the previous weekend when I tried a Pink Pill of Permanent Psychosis - also referred to as the "River Phoenix Mix" ( a deadly coctail :) - it was MDA and a whole mess of other stuff FYI :) Anyhow, this weekend was a serious "retail therapy" session after I woke up around lunch time on Saturday. Breakast at Merivale's cafe around the corner from "home", shop-a-thon throw Kings Cross ( where I bought CD's, not hookers thank you *very* much :) , serious shopping at Reachin & Central station record stores ( twice at the latter, just call me addicted :) and then it was off to the first, the original, the official, the almost never-happened AusRaves dinner. As the inaugural full-on dinner, it set the following precendents for all future AusRave dinners: 1 It must be booked at a restaurant two doors up the street from where it actually winds up happening ( gee Rob, were you embarrassed or WHAT :) 2 A plentiful supply of mobile phones must be present so purchasing deals can be organized prior to departure for the various events ( and to facilitate easy communications from one end of the table to the other :) - I haven't got my phone bill YET but it should be good from that nite ALONE :) 3 The bill should be paid promptly and with little problems about insufficient funds ( as opposed to the pre-ORB dinner in NY where money was flowing everywhere BUT where it had to go :) 4 A group puff on a mind-altering cigarette ion the footpath outside the restaurant is required. It must be in plain view of all pedestrians and law officials driving by on the main road, it should be a big, fat, juicy one ( shit Rob but it was *NICE* :) and, above all else, all should partake with obvious relish and nonchalance... 5 Given the above especially and the "oh my gawd" fear of the luckless restauranteers as 20 wierdoes walked in the door, the finally selected venue ( as opposed to the booked venue :) should be in a relatively "cool" part of town :) Yes, the dinner was great, but that was only two hours of the night - shit, I gotta split this into two :) Grant ( more to come.... ) From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 23:52:53 1993 From: grant@world.std.com (Grant D McHerron) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 02:52:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Yet More On This Weekend Status: OK, so we'd survived the first dinner and it was great. Wandered around for a while doing some deals and getting ready to go then it was off to a friend's place ( ever tried getting a cab near the show grounds as the Madonna concert is letting out - ha! :) and then on to the rave. I chose to go to Freedom 2 despite Phil Smart saying I should come to Nobby's 30th and hear him spin - I was tempted but I sorta got side tracked - we had agreed to meet up at the rave ( maybe ) and I'd head over after 4am when he started. Well, I had some wonderful little pink powder that must have been scraped from the inner workings of a few 1200's 'cos when I took it at the door of the rave ( in capsule form, thank you :) I immediately started to spin at 45rpm instead of 33 and within a few minutes was in fact running up at 78rpm and was even getting off on the hardcore they were paying at 2am. The scene ( for the yanks ) was in a multi-level car park ( one level there-of ) with stacks of speakers, four lasers and a slew of beam lights, a few platforms, a liquid bar ( water, juice, etc ) and no major ventilation to speak of. The music at 2am when I sprinted in the door was hardcore and then got better from there as it progressed into "hard trance" and on ( OK, so it was fun at first, but in my eyes ( or ears :), it got better later on :) Danced like a demon ( or at least, like I was insane ) until the thing finally spun down around 8:45am. Had one major 15m break and a couple of small walk-abouts during the event so some serious calorie loss occurred here - fluid intake was high tho... Got a lift home and arrived at 9am to discover that despite the general overcast weather, sailing was still on and my presence was required at the pier for pickup around 10:30 - SHIT. Quick shower, grab some food ( on the off chance that I may need it at lunch time :) and heaps of water then it was down to the harbour for a few hours cruising sailing, pulling up anchors, riding the bowspit through the swell ( it goes Up... and down.... and up...... and down..... and up..... :). Hanging in the rigging up the mast is a real wild way to come down off speed :) Finally get off the yacht and it's dinner and then off to Plush, the raver's pub which runs every Sunday night in Sydney city until the early morning. Got there with Vic C around 11 and stayed until 12:30 when we split. The place is great and like a little rave all over again - great to catch up with those you haven't seen in a day - see who recovered the best :) Tranced home through Kings Cross listening to Little Louis' French Kiss - very apt music when you're walking up Williams St and down the "main drag", surrounded by Hookers and the drunks trying to pick them up -= it's a wild enough site when yer strait let alone when yer coming off speed, weed and no sleep for two days. It's almost a fun feeling when your body has finally caught up with the fact that it has been treated rather unfairly and your brain checked out some hours ago and won't be back until the renovations are finished.... What a weekend - work today was really *interesting* but those barocca tablets helped this morning ( two pills fizzing inside ya and yer buzzing on Vitamin B :)... That's life on the weekend in Sydney ( oh yeah, Friday night goes off, as does Thursday and hell, most other evenings have *something* happening to get wasted at if you want :)... Grant From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 5 23:54:00 1993 From: grant@world.std.com (Grant D McHerron) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 02:53:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Freedom II .. some classic quotes (fwd) Status: Forwarded message: From wedicd@itwol.bhp.com.au Mon Dec 6 02:17:38 1993 From: Caru ger arall enw Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 13:08:58 EST Subject: Freedom II .. some classic quotes Status: Some memorable tripper quotes from Freedom II: "Oh no, the cement's breathing again." "What was our plot this time?" "Here, you keep my plot, I keep losing it." "I wish that chip packet would hurry up and turn into a bird and fly off or something." "So tell me, is tripping fun?" "Rave? .. what rave? .. didn't we just miss most of it?" "I wonder how long it'll take this person to notice the car park gates are shut .. wow! .. new record!" "Hang on, this is Oxford Street, weren't we supposed to be going up the trippy stairs back at the rave in Pyrmont??" "Oh look, I can see rain .. but we're inside aren't we?" "Me? .. on something?? .. how can you tell??" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ David Dick | "My mind is going .... ~ ~ wedicd@itwol.bhp.com.au | There is no question about it....." ~ ~ BHP IT Wollongong Region | - New Order, Murder ~ ~ WARNING: BHP's opinions and mine rarely, if ever, coincide. ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 05:29:31 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 08:28:49 EST Subject: Turntables, mixers, CD Players, etc. Status: To Matt & and interested DJs: There's a DJ catalog available with about 62 pages of the above stuff. Call 800-945-9300. Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 05:41:45 1993 From: dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu (Douglas Zimmerman) Date: Sun, 5 Dec 93 21:25:12 EDT Subject: DC-Raves and SE-Raves are down Status: Due to the American University mainframe harddrive crashing the DCRaves list and SERaves lists have not been operating since Friday night. Hopefully american will be up again tommrrow (Monday) but they are not sure cause they have to reprogram all the flies. please relay this message to anyone you think might be interested. questions? dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu (cause i cant use my american account) sorry for any inconvience. doug ))))) a b00mingg baSS for a l0ving race ((((( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu aspiring wanna-be dj Dougie Fresh From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 05:41:36 1993 From: dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu (Douglas Zimmerman) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 7:42:34 EDT Subject: DC-SE Raves down Status: i wrote a message earlier but it didnt see to get through... DC and SE raves are down becasue the american.edu mainframe hardware crashed fri night/sat morning. system operations have to do some reprograming and hopefully things should be working by today. dats it/ doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 07:21:32 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 10:20:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Best of '93 Status: On Fri, 3 Dec 1993, Tai Nguyen wrote: > >> My best of '93: > >> > >> getting on the rave lists and reading what you guys have to say, > >> chatting with you on vrave, and dancing, trancing and raving with you guys!!! > > > >i second that emotion.....:) > > i third it. and i also hereby dub Terence R. Strick - STRICK 9. >=) m e t o o ! ! ! Huggs to you all! Jennifer (jenn-bug) Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 09:20:13 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 09:19:51 -0800 Subject: ALCHEMY party teaser :-) Status: Technopolis presents * A * L * C * H * E * M * Y * the science of sound + the magic of dance Saturday, January 8 ** 10pm - 7am ** $7 Rockland County, about 1/2 hour north of NYC INFO: Technopolis line: 908.572.0259 Gearhead (MA): 617.352.6939 Gearhead (NY): 518.695.6489 ZOOM: 215.998.9650 From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 09:48:23 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 09:47:49 -0800 Subject: Alchemy bus trips Status: If anyone wants to commit to organizing a bus trip to Alchemy, please email me by Tuesday afternoon so we can get your contact information onto the flyer. Laura From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 10:06:19 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:00:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Algo3}SuperNature review Status: Well, I myself really would rather someone else review this since I have been the "Hype Machine" as dieselBoy puts it for this event. Anyway having finally recieved the proper amount of sleep I feel up to writing a short review. The Space: Irish Centre, not as good as the 22,000 sq ft paintball warehouse that we had originally planned to use but it was big enough and had the added bonus of a higher ceiling for the lasers. The Sets: Were in this order - Side 2, 1.8.7, DJ ESP, Lenny Dee, Frankie Bones, +FX, Deadly Buda, Terry Kicks, Soji-Fu, Finger. Notes on the sets: My set was pretty good from what people told me and afterwards Lenny and Frankie took me around to the back room behind the stage and said in that Brooklyn accent "We gotta tok." Lenny wants me to send him all my finished songs Dark Breakbeat and Hardcore/Hard Acid. As he said, "I liked what I heard. I'm serious. I think it could go on Industrial Strength UK." *Lenny's set was ultra hard and was very well thought out. He would take you up to the point where yyou couldn't possibly dance anymore and then let you have a rest then take you up again and so on in a continuing cycle. *Frankie also spun a very good set of alot of stuff no one around here had heard. He of course did his required "Pittsburgh, let me here ya make some fuckin noise out there! Come on!" but that was about it for his MCing and he got on with mixing a pretty seamless set. Good Stuff *Buda's set was very interesting, he is getting away from his Hardcore Only mentality and spinning simply good music in a pretty seamless mixing style. *Terry Kicks spun a pretty good set of underground disco and house as promised, this was no Saturday Night Fever/Show Me Love crap. It was Hard Disco and Deep House. Tasty. However being that this rave was billed more as a Hardcore rave alot of people decided to leave around this point. *Soji-Fu followed with a pretty good set of dark andhappy breaks which I had been waiting to hear all night. He's good but still no dieselBoy. *Finger spun a really appropriate trance/prog house set that ended the rave with Abba's take a chance on me. The Lights: PAWN out did themselves, these guys are really cool and they had the lasers write out who was spinning at any giveen time so you didn't have to wander around and ask. Hehe I even gotta to see my name in laser's during my live set.The projections they had running were awesome. This was the best rave visually that we have ever had. The People: Much smaller crowd than we estimated we'd get. Oh well the Vibe was pretty good and that's what matters eh? Some people did come as far away as Nashville, TN, Boston, MA, and New York City of course. Hehe overheard outside the rave, "Frankie, we came all the way from Brooklyn man! Frankie: "You mean youse fukheads drove all the way from New York? Your fuckin crazy. :)" The Afterhours(es) Two to choose from, I went to the one where the net ravers were going to go and where Pittsburgh's newest breaks DJ and dieselBoy's friend DJ Ruffian was spinning a fine set in the basement. Later on Kevin (Sonic from vrave) droped by and spun some excellent Acid Jazz and his friend spun some trance. Everyone was just comming down from their vitamins and it was pretty fun. It's been awile since there were such large quantaties of X here and the people at the rave noticed the change. At one point there was a huge backrub-massage line/circle at the back of the room. The Weather: Helped make a normally hard to dance on floor slick and slippery at one point it got so slick that you didn't have to walk you could just skate across the floor.Fun. Net-ravers in attendance: Sonic, Bethany, Stevph, Michelle, Blondie, and probably a couple more that I forgot or missed. Smart Bar: NRGETIC provided some tasty drinks for $4. I'm glad I didn't have to pay though. Ballooooons: Much too small for the price, I'm once again glad I didn't have to pay. EZ-Whips would have been cheaper. Overall rating: 7 out of 10. Would have liked to have been able to hear Soji's set earlier, wished the space hadn't been changed at the last minute. (More people probably decided not to go.) Notes: If you liked hardcore and missed this you missed out. If you didn't like hardcore it was still a pretty good event that had about 400-500 dancing at one point or another. The E put the E in enthusiasm and I noticed A higher percentage of people dancing this time than at any other TZ or Millenium event. Costs of things inside were high but the ticket price was outrageously low. $8 I'd be suprised if Millineum made anything off this event and more suprised if they didn't go into the red due to the high production costs of it. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 10:41:59 1993 From: jcarow@MIT.EDU Date: Mon, 06 Dec 93 13:41:40 EST Subject: Re: Techno-compilations Status: >I was at the local record store(Record Town), and I saw two new mixes on Cd: > 140BPM: The Joint > I would apppreciate >some criticism of each, if anybody knows about it. > Thanx... > -Akeera Okay, here's some criticism.... ;) _Speed Limit 140+ BPM Vol. 3: THE JOINT_ is CRAZY PHAT!!!!!!! GET IT NOW.......of course only if you like breaks. casper From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 10:42:03 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 13:44:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Techno-compilations Status: >I was at the local record store(Record Town), and I saw two new mixes on Cd: > > 140BPM: The Joint Hmmmm. I'm actually quite new to rave music although once I discovered it I was quickly hooked =); what I mean to say is I don't have much experience with other music to compare it to so please excuse the rawness of this review. Originally, I bought Speed Limit: 140+ BPM Vol. 1 and I liked it although all the tracks sounded the same and it was fairly bland but the pure pounding pulse aroused me musically >=). Unfortunately, like I said there is no variety to the tracks and after a couple of songs I was quickly bored. Anyhow, the disc I bought had a big ole scratch in the back and kept on skipping so I tried to exchange it the next day but they had no more copies of Vol.1 so they gave me Vol.3: The Joint and it is _worse_. My call? 7/10 to be charitable. Pelonity, Tai ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Medium is the perfect word to describe tele- |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| vision. It is neither rare nor well-done." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Woody Allen |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) 9 OUT OF 10 DENTISTS PREFER THIS MESSAGE OVER THE LEADING BRAND. From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 11:52:03 1993 From: TMA@kuwait.elp.cwru.edu Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:44:50 EST Subject: Analog Bubble Bath #3 jewelbox label!? Status: Hi All, I was just wondering if anybody had seen/saved that post script file that someone had posted to alt.rave. It was a jewel box format label for the abb#3 cd by afx. Maybe you can tell me where I can get it or mail it directly to me if you have it please please ;) Thanks in advance, TAREQ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 12:32:38 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 15:06:41 -0500 Subject: faq-attack Status: if anyone recently sent me mail, please resend it, i made the mistake of requesting a rave-faq on alt.rave and was instantly swamped. They filled up my file, meaning i only received a few ne-raves posts. Thanx! jim From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 12:41:12 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:40:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Subspace communication... (fwd) Status: From Ultraworld with love... From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 5 Dec 1993 23:23:59 EST From: "Mr. Ultraworld" To: Multiple recipients of list DCRAVES Subject: Subspace communication... Here it is! This is it! It's finally here! What am I talking about? I'm talking about the chance for all of the east coast rave community, as well as the extended family of subculture and underground youth to unite for one of the most outrageous, insane, musically moving, technologically exciting, good vibe sharing, non-alcohol drinking, memory making, peaceful gatherings that our scene has ever been a part of. Everything is coming together on New Year's Eve in Baltimore, as Ultraworld presents Resolution! Besides the obvious New Year's "resolution", the word itself connotates the determination and clarity that this event represents for the future of what we want to do---- WE WANT TO RAVE! Ultraworld is proud to present this thing for us all to share, and we don't think anyone will be dissappointed. We'd especially like to thank everyone on the net for being honest with us, it's been an inspiration to see all of the good things that we've set in motion by holding events. It has also helped to be exposed the negative too. The result is a better event for all! Resolution is hopefully going to take us all to a new level of experience. As we began to plan for this day, everything seemed to fall into place. All of the other promoters were happy to come to Baltimore and not throw big events in their areas, there was a sense that maybe Ultraworld deserved to have this party. Yet more than anything we felt that all the RAVERS deserved to have us throw this party, and as the days count down towards New Years, it seems the excitinment is building exponentially! I can't wait to see everybody there, on the floor of this warehouse, with the music pounding, and the lasers shooting, and all the other craziness that will be this night: and if all goes well, I can't wait to take the foundation that will be built there and turn 1994 into everyone's best year yet! yeooow! Lonnie Now for a little more meat and less hype: The afterhours starts Saturday and NOT Sunday, that was a misprint on the flier. Although I would not rule out a Saturday party, we'll see how it goes. The Almighty Senators, from Baltimore, are not a techno act. They are however the best dance, energy, visual band we have ever seen. I would have to describe them as James Brown funk, mixed with reggae, mixed with an urban sounding art grunge, mixed with a hit or two of acid, mixed with a lot of visuals, mixed with fun! You'll see! Stop the bitching! Just to set the record straight on the net chatter about $20, I'll say this about that: The budget for this event is about 3 times the budget for any of our other events (which usually suck in about 12 grand), the price is only 5 dollars more then normal. Everything you could possibly want to rent is doubled in price because of the holiday, and when you get into this space and see what we've done to make this the best event ever, I know you won't be feeling bad about spending your money. For the math mongers out there, your calculations of what we will make are all wrong, considering that every ticket outlet or promoter or bus organizer is getting cut into what happens. And even if we do make out on that one night, if you don't think any profits will be reflected in extra goodies for future events, then you obviously don't know Ultraworld! (Don't worry though, we still invite you to find out) Anyway, those who know, know.... That's all for now, see you in the new year.... From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 12:42:53 1993 From: Kenny Eng Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:42:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Algo3}SuperNature review Status: okay, here's my short review. the music was mostly hardcore. ihad a hard time dancing to it the whole night. it was just crazy. it went on and on. lenny dee had this set that was too long. i got there at 1 am and missed bones' set, but did hear his mc'ing techniques. true, the floor was wet and slippery the whole night cause it was raining, but the wood dance space up front was okay. once i stepped in, the space lookedhuge, a lot bigger that algo1, which was held in the same space cause they removed this black sheet that separated tehfront and back of the irish center. up front at the dj stage, pawn's fucking incredible laser were shooting out everything from the dj's name to an image of a person juggling and a cube and everything. it reminded me of 808 state's green lasers. didn't notice the e line. noticeably missed the flyers that are usually passed out at raves, except forone being held new year's even in minneapolis. it seems like people from dc or ny never come to the pittsburgh raves. i noticed acouple of songs with breaks in deadly buda's set. and does anyone know what song it is that terrykicks played at algo 2 and 3, it has a reggae-ish vocal in it and then goes into a thundering boom-make-you-go-boom, etc, etc. ken From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 12:45:16 1993 From: Kenny Eng Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 15:41:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Algo3}SuperNature review Status: okay, here's my short review. the music was mostly hardcore. ihad a hard time dancing to it the whole night. it was just crazy. it went on and on. lenny dee had this set that was too long. i got there at 1 am and missed bones' set, but did hear his mc'ing techniques. true, the floor was wet and slippery the whole night cause it was raining, but the wood dance space up front was okay. once i stepped in, the space lookedhuge, a lot bigger that algo1, which was held in the same space cause they removed this black sheet that separated tehfront and back of the irish center. up front at the dj stage, pawn's fucking incredible laser were shooting out everything from the dj's name to an image of a person juggling and a cube and everything. it reminded me of 808 state's green lasers. didn't notice the e line. noticeably missed the flyers that are usually passed out at raves, except forone being held new year's even in minneapolis. it seems like people from dc or ny never come to the pittsburgh raves. i noticed acouple of songs with breaks in deadly buda's set. and does anyone know what song it is that terrykicks played at algo 2 and 3, it has a reggae-ish vocal in it and then goes into a thundering boom-make-you-go-boom, etc, etc. ken From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 12:51:40 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 15:51:34 -0500 Subject: i need some help. Status: hi folx! i got a queston for you, particularly the balto/dc ravers out there. i am planning on moving to the balto area in jan. and was wondering if anyone could give me help/hints/suggestions on finding a place to stay...preferably, at least at first, id like to live with someone i know, at least from here...:) but if you guys know of any houses with empty rooms, people who need a roomie in their apartment, or any rave communes...:) that would be greatly appreciated...:) and if any of you awesome people i met at generation have/know of a place i can stay, and are willing to do it, i already say yes...you guys are the best! :) it doesnt have to be in balt proper, just roughly an hour or so either way from the balt/dc area (yes i know, thats all the way from pa to va)...:) ok? i really appreciate you taking the time to read this, and thank any/all who reply...:) p.l.u.r. (as was shown at generation) hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 14:19:59 1993 From: WQJQVBB@grove.iup.edu Date: 06 Dec 1993 17:16:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Alog3/SupErnAturE Status: well... i dont want to babble,as you already know this was a hard party... when i was standing outside, some ppl come running out, screaming ... its so fucking hard, i have to puke!! ---i couldnt stop dancing. although i thought more people would show up (i dont know if it had anything to do with the location change) i definatly felt the vibe... the floor was sooo slippery, and i saw a few people fall. the bottom and butt of my pants got all dirty :( ...it was kinda fun to slide around, you didnt have to walk. a few friends came up from tennessee... they seemed to have a good time, but i think they were worn out from the 13 hour car ride up here... the afterparty was sooo fresh... i got to dance to acid jazzz! --thanx kevin :) well... i really dont know what else to say, sept that i am sooooo sore... i guess i danced to hard ??? oh yeah.. everyone liked the Ultraworld flyers for Reselution :) THEY WERE FRESH! rave on and peace out... Michelle From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 14:43:26 1993 From: Derek Tiffany Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 17:43:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: generation...net list Status: OK...just wanted to thank everyone for coming in for what I though was a KILLER party...despite the last-minute problems...and my now-empty bank account...and all the stress... I also want to thank everyone on the net who helped out...and had to deal with all the last minute stuff as well...you guys are great. I (of course) have much much more to say...but that will have to do for now although I would like to get a complete list of all the net-ravers who attended... Using Melzie's list as a base...I remember everyone except... Joe Suzyd - hmmm, actually did I meet you right at the end? Sigh...I guess you can't meet everyone...any additions to this list? I KNOW I had to forget someone...actually, I've got a face in mind that I can't put a name to... :( Derek Jason/Method 1 Laura (New Jersey) Gil Melzie Valentine Jenn-bug Marshal/Mars UVA Laura XtoFer Alex Scottbo Steve/Fluffhead [HUGZ!] Damian Jake China Itv/Chris Rob R (North Carolina) Rob C (DC) Doug Shelly John Rainbow Humphrey Paul (DJ Enzyme) Boris Hossam Dan FREElove Allison Thurmond And-E Jason Sullivan (North Carolina) wew...thanks guys oh yah, also...I'm NOT on ne-raves anymore...so can people send me copies of any generation posts...or is there still and archive? hmm...or jason, mebbe you could grab 'em for me... later days and sunny rays, -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- Derek Tiffany | TIFFaNydE@urvax.urich.edu | This space for rent University of Richmond | djt0u@aurora.urich.edu |<= djt{zero}u@aurora... -----------------------+---------------------------+------------------------- or just plain derek if you prefer From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 17:21:06 1993 From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 20:20:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: xmas holidays and such (repost) Status: i am not sure if this got through the first time so here it is again: > > How many of you will be around the NYC area during the Xmas/New Years > > holiday time? I know that Jetta will be in NJ around that time, and Brian B > > is coming down on Dec 30 ... how about a little pavement-stomping in NYC? > > > i think i may be going up north for the holidays...ny...nj...boston > maybe?... and might like to stay with some one in one of the places if > possible....does anyone feel like making some sort of hook-up-omatic type > thing for over christmas break? (a little more than the regular one like > including people who need/have places to crash) i would do it but don't > have the time > > one could be done for seraves and dcraves also, or maybe just one big > one...anyone? > > vraves list? there's a vraves list? > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > ////////// john, humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu /////// > ///////// rainbow, john_humphrey@ncsu.edu /////// > //////// humphrey, pgp key upon request /////// > ////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////// john, humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu /////// ///////// rainbow, john_humphrey@ncsu.edu /////// //////// humphrey, pgp key upon request /////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////// From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 17:23:05 1993 From: humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 20:22:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: mail bouncing Status: does this mean that majordomo automatically forowarded the letter to the ne-raves list or not? i didn't think so, but could be wrong... > From MAILER-DAEMON@unity.ncsu.edu Mon Dec 6 19:34:02 1993 > Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 19:34:02 EST > Subject: Returned mail: User unknown > From: MAILER-DAEMON@unity.ncsu.edu (Mail Delivery Subsystem) > Posted-Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 19:34:02 EST > Received-Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 19:34:02 EST > To: > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > Connected to techno.stanford.edu: > >>> RCPT To: > <<< 550-... User unknown > <<< 550- Some other possibilities for "neraves"... > <<< 550- ? ne-raves: "|/usr/local/majordomo/wrapper resend -l ne-raves -h techno.stanford.edu -f ne-raves-owner -s ne-raves-list" > <<< 550- 1 possible matches found for "neraves". > <<< 550 End of listing. > 550 ... User unknown ////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////// john, humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu /////// ///////// rainbow, john_humphrey@ncsu.edu /////// //////// humphrey, pgp key upon request /////// ////////////////////////////////////////////////// From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 18:39:14 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 21:36:05 EST Subject: evolution phactory Status: i think were due for some reviews by now!!!!!! matt? Jim? Beuller? From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 18:48:05 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 21:45:03 EST Subject: A L C H E M Y Status: ok, this party is going to be rad! The way everything is shaping up makes me take heart in the community we have here on the net. I am quite impressed at how you all support eachother fairly unconditionally. That is so unfor- tunately rare these days *especially* in underground scenes that have been affected by the media and commercialism. so, this post has two purposes: 1) to tell you all i love you and thank you for the pride you allow me to hold when I say that I rave, and 2) to beg any and all of you to come to alchemy. Laura, Jenn and so many others are working this labor of love, and we should show our support and appreciation--besides it's gonna be a killer party..that you'll regret missing. So, if it's a matter of to go or not to go, allow sprockett to influence you...i look so forward to meeting you (it seems that every time i try to hook up, something goes wrong ;) also, if anyone is going to be near the boston area on alchemy weekend and is interrested in going--post or mail me. I f i get enough interest from either the scene out here, or fellow netters, i may run a bus. any takers? Im soooooooooooooooooooooooooo excited 8) sprock.... From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 19:28:27 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 22:28:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: assorted bits Status: random thoughts... 1. derek and i counted no less than THIRTY-FOUR netravers in attendance at generation. wow! all i can say is thanks for your support...hopefully we can count on it for the future :) also, we would LOVE to hear what you thought about it...(translation: i want reviews!!!now!!!!) :) 2. alchemy: if someone is making a list for this one, write me in..i can tell that this will have a hell of a vibe...and netravers aplenty. i will bee in new jersey (southern, near philly)so i could possibly provide a ride for someone. and laura: if you need any help (anything at all) feel free to ask. i am getting quark and photoshop soon, so i could easily do flyers for you. 3. big congrats to joe/1.8.7. on his record deal....more power to ya! 4. and to all of you...a big hug :) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 19:49:14 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1993 22:51:39 +0100 Subject: Re: Techno-compilations Status: >>they gave me Vol.3: The Joint and it is >>_worse_. My call? 7/10 to be charitable. > >what???? The Joint is the BEST cd I've picked up all year! hey don't get me wrong I _like_ the cd but I think Vol.1 is better. I rate my discs very critically; 90% of my discs I put at 8/10 even if I love them and I reserve 9/10 for the stuff that brings me to orgasm, so 7/10 is a thumbs up in my book. >no variety?? I would urge you to compare foul play - open your mind, >to boogie times tribe - real hardcore.. listenin' to the disc right now =) and you're right about these tracks but in general i'd still say there's not enough variety (track 2 is indistinguishable from track 1). >hyper on experience - lord of the null lines is just PHAT. agreement here - i'm torn between this track and DJ Hype's The Chopper as my favorite track on the disc. By the way, I actually KNOW the origin of the 'What is going on?' sample on The Chopper =). It's from a really badly dubbed japanese anime movie whose name I forget. My new analysis? A solid 7/10 but I just bought this disc four days ago and I _always_ grow to love albums after a while so who knows I may promote it to 8/10 soon. Oh and one last note. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let's not turn this into another Re: Artificial Intelligence. ;) Keep the faith, Tai ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Medium is the perfect word to describe tele- |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| vision. It is neither rare nor well-done." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Woody Allen |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE IS TEFLON(tm) COATED AND GUARANTEED 100% NON-STICK From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 20:12:15 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 93 23:12:02 -0500 Subject: generation (12/4/93) + other weekend events Status: **note: this review is highly subjective, as the nature of reviews tend to be...please do not flame my criticism of the event if/because you didnt feel as strongly about it as i still do. thanks.** i loved it. it all began for me at 2 am sat morning when i headed over to chinas house...(10min away) we hung there for a while, then boris (bf) and yusef (vennboy) came over...we all went to sleep and headed out the next morning at around noon (9hr drive to richmond). about 5 min after we got on the highway, as we came to the end of the on ramp actually, china got pulled over by a cleveland cop for doing 65 in a 50mph zone...:( boris and yusef were behind us, but they wisely continued driving in order to avoid getting another ticket (as has happened to convoys ive been in b4) problem is, we were headed to pittsburgh to pick up damian (dB) and kara (kara :) and boris/yusef didnt know where we were going (mikebee's house) or how to get there...:( so we continued driving, hoping we'd see them or something on the highway or the predetermined spot where they were supposed to pick up stephen from new castle, who was gonna ride with them. when china and i passed by the spot, we saw neither stephen nor boris' cars...:( we continued on to mikebee's house, only to find stephen waiting for us there, and dB wrapped in his sheets at 3pm...:) apparently boris had forgot to call stephen at 10am like planned, and headed to damian's cause he knew we would be stopping there. smart move. but after spending another 2-3 hrs getting ready and deciding what to do, it turned out that stephen couldnt go...:( im really sorry stephen. so we got on the road, and *gasp* damian drove part of the way...;) :)...i was really tired, as i had only had 2 hrs sleep the nite b4, and had been a vampyre all week...but i had to drive from breezewood pa to dc...all of us drove thru fierce winds with blinding rain, and i had to contend with fog as thick as raver909's head...:) i couldnt see 10 ft in front of me at times, i swear. so we got to dc and after getting lost, finally made it to music now where damian got some records and kara bought a shirt, i also saw several people coming in at around 10 buying tickets for/asking how to get to soundflower, this got me really worried as i knew derek+jason were concerned about competition from this nearby rave...i couldnt bring myself to spend $80 on a jacket i could buy in nyc for $52, so i walked out of there empty handed and a pocket full of cash....this would prove to be very wise later that nite....;) we had forgotten to bring along the directios to generation, so we stopped at a rest area and called the infoline...what we heard was assumed to be the directions...:) (muffled) (**actual review starts here**) when we finally arrived at the site (at 1:30-2am!!), it looked a little shaky...building with corrugated siding and a lighted sign up front saying "nite world"...there were a few (15?) cars out front and i was was worried that there would be noone there...damian had other worries on his mind. we pulled in, and saw that the parking was behind the building...and it was PACKED! youve never seen faces turn from fearful apprehension to excited anticipation so quickly...:) we got in, and saw a large hip-hop crowd, and a security guard with a plainly visible handgun (i was worried that this was what richmonds crowd was like, but it was for a separate party at the site that ended soon after our arrival) along with another huge security guy...we checked in, i saw this tired looking guy in a pink shirt (derek) and jason (*he* was _wearing_ a nametag, derek :) said hi to jason, and then we dropped off dB's rekkids and i went back to the car to get some stuff...after we came in, we met all the people we knew....its been listed, so ill just say hi and i love you all to everyone who i knew/met there. we saw laura, dan and allison in a spcae by the girls bathroom...you know dan would be hanging out by there...;) walked around some more...the main room was very warehousey...with nice 30ft ceilings and lotsa room...the two speaker stacks were in the front corners of the room...nothing incredibly complex...but good enuff to make me worship them later that nite...we got in and it was pretty packed at 2am...lotsa good looking, friendly kids...my theory is richmond is southern enuff to keep that "southern hospitality and graciousness" but close enuff to a big city (dc) not be be a complete hicksville...:) i heard from laura (nj) that there were complaints that there were too many posers, i didnt see that...everyone was having a good time, wanna see posers? check out the gangstas at many ne events...:( in the back corner was the unofficial net.raver spot...i was surprised to to see jen (indigo), i thought you couldnt make it? ;) i met my buddy, steveh (fluff) and was _really_ glad to get a chance to meet him. :) well, i checked out the cool balcony above the floor which was being used as a coimbination dj booth/light rig control/pa setup/unofficial vip-chillout...jason told me the unfortunate reason he could perform his pa, and i was sad b/c i had heard his stuff on tape on the ride down and was *REALLY* psyched to hear it live...man's got the dopest, phattest shit! keep on jason! todd krulak was spinnig when we got in and i really liked that set..he wasnt spinning one "style" rather he was spinning a bunch of crowd movers, during this time, i went up and spent some time with jason, who allowed me to hear his set thru his headphones! OH MY GOD! jason the compliment was *neccessary*, understand...im serious...that stuff sounds AWESOME! get it out there...soon! i heard two very well arranged, tight breakbeat tracks..with very strong beats...the second track was really trancey and when breakbeat nemesis laura la gassa :) heard it, she went crazy too...to quote laura, "jason, your stuff might make me rethink my position on breakbeat" (or something close to that) jason-that in itself is a victory for breakbeat and its fans right there! *high five* :) anyhow back to krulak's set...whatever the genre...it was nice, very danceable stuff..stuff that got me ready to get down to the dark bizness at hand...:) i sat out the end of krulak's set, then went over to dB as he was getting ready to start his set and he gently suggested that i stay in the vicinty for his set...:) (*hee* 'member damian?) as todd wound down with !orbital! :) (either remind or lush 3-1/3-2) damian brought the music down to a _complete_ stop, and with the attention of the floor upon him/the speakers...began with a heartbeat...he uses this technique to very effective ends in gaining hold of a crowd..if you havent yet, check out those flyers and get out to the next event hes spinning...he'll blow you away. me and *everyone* else that i spoke to thought he spun a *fabulous* set...to quote jason, "it was *perfect* and i was listening" :) damian spun this one track that had this **amazing* sound in it, a sound i can only described as a high pitched sound of a record being rewound....in front of the stacks, that sound kept running up my spine *shiver*...it was soo cool- this total stranger came up to me and asked me, "doesnt this sound awesome?" i could only nod my agreement at the time...later we talked and he said hed like to meet damian, i was going to introduce him, but the kid disappeared...:( it woulda made his day...damian--get a clue and stop being so hard on yourself, by your standards, will you ever spin a good set? the set was basically 1/2 dark and 1/2 happy breaks, the dark stuff was awesome, but my being a fan was biased...i noticed people watching me, but i also noticed people dancing...every dark track he spun was a *huge winner* in my opinion...altho i was hoping to hear "ghost of my life" (they only thing we had to fear, was that the magic would end, and real life would come crashing in) altho there was a bit of an energy lull around the middle of the set (which seemed like 4 hrs...how long did he spin anyway?) but he closed it off with the amazing "nookie" (join in join in the sound ofmusic music music music) :) everyones hearts were uplifted by that time, the happiness was so contagious... unfortunately at this time, john "rainbow" humphrey was also spinning in the chillout room...too bad people had to choose between two fellow net.dj's...im sorry john...but i heard from rob rarousse you did an awesome job as well...:) then the amazing josh wink came on...it was incredible...first thing i noticed was that he filled the room with fog and shut off all the lights but the dataflashes...he put a red gel filter on the light above the dj booth...he brought the room to a standstill as damian had done previously...i must say this...he has the quality that supposedly the "really good djs" have, that of being able to make the room respond exactly the way the dj wants them to...wowowow! he had *complete* control of the crowd in his set, and they responded willingly and enthusiastically to his direction...:) it was a beautiful thing. he played a very energetic set, with about 10 of his current favorite records being thrown in there... at this point, i left the main room to say hi to all my friends, old and new (steve, xtofer, rob, shelly, and all you other great kids who i can remember...:) we sat down in the middle of the floor in the chillout and did the backrub circle thing...girl in the tight blue shirt with the long dark hair...thank you thank you thank you--you have *amazing* fingers ;)...i swear you all should have seen the looks on the groups faces when i busted out the secret bottle of cherry vicks..hehehe...we did the cuddle thing some more, and then went into the main room again...there was a big, akward, hug circle going, and then the whole monstrosity moved to the floor to dance...luckily we separated at this point...:) but we quickly resumed the backrubs..they felt *much* better...there was a comment made that the e there was very aphrodesical in nature..im not sure, but i definitely liked the physical contact more than the music...i didnt get much of a rush that made me wanna dance, btw... well by this time its about 7am...(only 5 hrs after i got there) and kara and china and damian wanted to leave because they had to be back in pitts...:( i had my mind made up, and besides i was incapable of sitting ina car at that time in my condition...;) so i arranged to get a ride back with boris and yusef (**thanks**) and said a sad goodbye to my friends, but hey, i stayed there for a few more hours...:) things were winding down at this point, and the main room didnt have anyone spinning in it any more...so, i went to the chillout roo, sat on the *comfy* couches and chilled. why is it you hear the coolest tunes at the end of a rave? whoever was spinning last was playing some cool hardcore with really trancey sections in it...sounded great, whoever you were :) ! then we all lent a hand to help clean up (or appeared to...;) it was the least we could do guys, thank *you*...:) **i want to say something. P.L.U.R. was in maximum effect at generation** i remember earlier in the evening, passing by the bathroom and hearing steve hormell (fluff) talking to someone about plur (peace love unity respect) and what it meant, and i just thought..."man, that is so beautiful" there was such a sense of community and togetherness, derek thank you for helping bring that vibe to such an ordinary building...i heard people say that it was because of all the net.ravers there, but i wouldnt say that 34 out of over 400 people could make all the difference themselves... and the vibe was felt by those who took their vitamins and those who chose not to...people who were straight told me this, so i dont wanna hear that it was just because of the e...it wasnt. after a last bit of cleanup, we decided to head out to waffle house (bob evans was too far), last goodbyes and farewells to derek, jason, rob, and chris..you guys are the best...:) i give this event 9/10...it wasnt a 10/10 mainly because of the fact that it lost money...im sorry guys, those who didnt go will learn about what they missed and the next event will be even P H A T T E R ! ! remember plur. peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 20:39:46 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Mon, 06 Dec 1993 23:39:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE:140 bpm plus vol. 3 "the joint" Status: my opinions on the disk...INCREDIBLE. best domestic comp ive heard this year, maybe ever. this is no "rave till dawn"....QUALITY up-to-date breaks from suburban base and moving shadow records...much better than the dissappointing volume 2, and even better than volume 1 (and THAT had "space cakes" on it!) -jason/m1 From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 21:00:39 1993 From: rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 00:00:16 EST Subject: Re: generation...net list Status: Wow. 29 net people. No wonder I felt like I had never seen so many net people at one party. And everyone I met was so friendly. That was one phat vibe. My friends who I was with said it was good and that they'd probably go back up for another one. I'd almost compare this one with Ultraworld, cept that was for 3 days, and this was only 1 night. :) Really sorry Derek that you lost money on this one. Seems all the best raves end up losing money...sorta becoming Murphy's Law now. Many thanks to everyone there. There is too many people I could mention... But you know who you are. ;) All the sets I heard were good, and I heard some compliments on them too from some of my friends. The rooms were perfect too. graphics from Melon Design were Fantastic! I remember at the end how they started turning on the lights in the main room and the dj was still playing some good tunes. People started to stop dancing and all that, when it was me, Xtopher, Indigo? and some other people started to keep on dancing, and I swear, everyone else started to pick up dancing again. And we kept it up for at least 4 more songs. It was so great. :) By then, things were starting to break down. I went into the chill-out room and John was still spinning reckerds and we cleaned house. Well, we went to the awful house and then drove home for the next 3 hours. Got home okay. When we left, it was raining and such, but when we hit NC, the clouds started breaking up. Just around that time, Perpetual Dawn came on and it was sooooooooooooooo beautiful seeing all the colors in the clouds as the sun was still coming up. By the time we hit Raleigh, we had a cool breeze outside and blue skies. ahhhhhhhh...... Well, cya guys! ............................................................ Rob Rousseau [] North Carolina State University | rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu [] Raleigh, NC | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 6 23:52:24 1993 From: Bruce Krysiak Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 02:52:07 EST Subject: Suture Soul - Ride from Albany to Cleveland/Columbus Status: Hey all - Sorry for the big crosspost, but at fab (ne-raves) DJ Jetta's urging I am posting an offer for a potential ride home from Suture Soul in Albany for you MidWesternRavers out there this Saturday/Sunday... Basically, if you get out there, I can give you (up to 2, *maybe*, I've gotta bring a buncha stuff home) a ride from Albany to anywhere along the path through Cleveland to Columbus. Dunno if this'll help anybody, but I thought I'd offer... Oh yeah, you also probably shouldn't be allergic to cats, either ;) Email me at brucek@athena.mit.edu 'cuz who knows how much longer I'll be on ne-raves... L8r - - Bruce --//--- From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 00:33:46 1993 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 03:31:28 EST Subject: Awesome Status: Cybertribe: It was awesome to see all of you at Generation. You are all great people. Derek & Crew: Thanks for putting on Generation. It was truely underground and hardcore! Jenn & ShellE: You two are awesome! *taco Bell, Chinese food, & hugs* Love, Mars From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 00:33:39 1993 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 03:23:23 EST Subject: New Jersey (908) internet hook ups Status: Cybertribe! Does anyone out there know if there are any internet places or local dial-up places that I can call to and get on from the Jeresy Shore area? I live in the 908 area code. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I am writing this on my dad's laptop spending 30cents a min. connected to my schoool's mahcine (without a working backspance!). If you know of any othere good edeals eithere such as america On-line or Prodigy serivices that might mbe cheap let me know. (i.e. If you're loggin in fro m home, write me and tell me how you do it). Much appreiciation, Mars From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 01:26:26 1993 From: jerry marvin haws Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 04:26:10 -0500 Subject: MOMENTUM - faraway, but NETRAVERS FREE... Status: yeah, like the header says... Saturday, January 22nd, plan well in advance for MOMENTUM... LEXINGTON, KY Featuring..... RICHIE HAWTIN - (+8, detroit) the plasticman's return from Europe* Dieselboy (pitt) Terry Mullan (st louis) Dave Hollands (muncie) Cosmic (wrfl, lexington) Lighting by Technocolor (12 roboscans, 12 dataflashes, 2 emulators, 2 "something new"s) Untold watts of fearsome bass by Thundersound Multiple video walls by the Eventions crew phunky dancers from scenes across the country smartbar by ImSmartRU security with a cheesy grin Chillout by Full Brain spinning the ice: ~, Full Brain, others with live ambience by ARS Visuals by Luna Low tech toys by LSI inter/active ALL AGES +++ 10pm til the sun hurts 96.4% Bust Free!!! (heh, heh!)** * Richie says that he's not spinning anywhere in the states until that weekend- he's off in England and Europe until Feed The Children (cinci, jan 21st) & Momentum. ** no, seriously, folks... My partner owns the space, which is a heated warehouse permitted for1200 people. It's in the middle of an industrial zone & we can be loud with impunity. copies of permits available at the ticket site. rave in underground safety! Look for Feed The Children, Friday the 21st- do the weekend in Cinci & Lexington (1 hour drive betwixt them) Flyers forthcoming to a rave near you.. Tickets are $6 in advance, $8 at the door, NETRAVERS FREE! That's right... let's bring the net together, convene & do the FTF thing. Just send mail to jsquared: & wear your badge or something. I'm not throwing this for money, rather, I want to give something back to the scene that I've had so much fun in this year. Infolines: lexington: 606.281.4193 louisville: 502.569.1969 cincinnati: 513.557.3491 nashville: 615.780.3730 muncie: 317.281.3000 dayton: 513.496.1071 & more on flyer... From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 03:07:33 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 06:04:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hom1 Status: Taking HOM submissions for all raves up to and including Resolution on New Year's Eve and the pre-party included. So please get them in as soon as you can...don't forget to include name, login, rave [or rave like event], if you need or can offer a ride, from what city. Also, could someone please send me info on Alchemy for the DC and UM ROMS Tanx :) Melzie aka Wammy-babe From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 09:11:05 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 12:08:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: MOMENTUM - faraway, but NETRAVERS FREE... Status: Hey hey hye.. I really like this thing you are doing. I am pretty excited by the concept, and I might be able to get out there myself. I really want to visit a friend out there and I may try to swing a ride out. If you want me to drop some fliers out here for you, let me know. It is kinda far away, so I don't know how effective it would be for you, but I have no problems dropping fliers around for anyone. :) Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 11:09:32 1993 From: laura@usl.com Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 14:02 EST Subject: gen Gen Generation Status: I want to thank Derek and Jason for putting on Generation. Right now I'm the head organizer for a party near NYC called Alchemy, and I'm going insane. And I don't even have the setbacks these guys did. All I can say is that Jason and Derek are powerhouses of committment and energy. They set out to put on a good party, and so they did. It is a damn crying shame they lost money and had to deal with so much stress near the end. I also apologzie to Jason for being such a stress puppy before the event about DJing. I swear to god now that I am an organzier and have to deal with the DJs, I'll NEVER bug an organizer again about time slots, etc. ANYWAY . . . Liz and I drove 6 hours from NYC through the nasty rain to Richmond, and found the site with zero problems. We then found a great Indian place up the Midlothian turnpike from the site, and had a huge yummy dinner. We headed back to the site and got there about 9.30 ish. The party was in the usual "oh my god we're almost but not quite ready to start" phase . . . they got things really going around 10.30. I liked the spot, especially the chill room with all its comfy sofas. Before my set I sort of wandered in a nervous haze, feeling out the room and the vibe. The main room was great, but no one seemed to want to dance to Speed Demon's set (and Valentin, I have about half the records you played, so *I* was digging it but I was too nervous to jump around and dance too much). Noting that, I decided to start my set slow and see if people responded to that. I got off to a good start, and then totally blew the mix into my third record. I was actually relieved, I said to myself "well, I can't get any worse." The energy levels in the room seemed a bit low . . . I put on three of my current favorite tracks, but no one seemed to pick up on them. I figured out that people liked stronger beats, but not so hard or fast as hardcore. I managed to get a connection with the dancers going, and started to take things faster and faster step by step so I could work up to some of my new records, but around 145 bpm I noticed I was losing everyone, so I started stepping it back down again. It was kind of frustrating to look down and see crowds of people standing right next to the speakers but not dancing. Did they hate the music? Were my mixes annyoing them and breaking up their moods? Waaaaahhhh. When Zeetch showed up to fill in for the missing Todd Krulack, I was relieved. I felt good about what I had done, but was glad it was over because I didn't seem to be generating any of that crazy trance-energy that makes a rave a RAVE. I packed up my records and talked to some people for a while, my friends all had nice things to say, which was very heartening. Zeetch played a lot of records I love but left at home because I've played them so many times recently, so it was really cool to dance to his stuff because usually when I hear it I'm busy mixing it! Somewhere in the night I listened to Jason's new music which he couldn't play because of an annoying hum in the sound system. I was VERY impressed! It's funny how different people have different interpretations of the vibe. At the end of his set one of the DJs was kind of down . . . he said the vibe was really weird and that most of the crowd seemed to be poseurs who would only dance to famous people like Wink, no matter what anyone played. Since I had such problems, too, I definately understood. It wasn't that people were unfriendly, they just didn't seem to want to dance much for a large portion of the night. It used to be I'd arrive at a rave early and there'd be a line to get in, and the second people got in they'd start to dance . . . now it feels different. Maybe instead of scheduling the big name DJs late, maybe they need to go early to get the crowd into the idea of dancing. I don't know, it's just an idea. Maybe the truth is that my musical choices really sucked, even though I love my records. Highlights: Seeing all the ne/dc/se ravers who came. The craziest thing was finally meeting Hans, who I made one of the original ne-rave badges for over a year ago! Falling asleep on a soft couch in the chill room, floating on a sound wave of whoever was spinning (no idea, sorry). Meeting Allison! The vrave personality finally in the flesh! Realizing at MANY points during the night that my life has turned completely around since last March. In March I was lonely, depressed to the point of wanting to die, and had no hope for a future. Now I feel like I have everything to look forward to (but I'm still stressed about Alchemy). Thanks again everyone who made this party happen. Love and community, Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 11:15:39 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 14:13:19 EST Subject: email address change Status: Greetingz, this is a general announcement: My old email address: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu is being changed. The new email address is: kia@pegasus.rutgers.edu Please make a note of it. This is a recording. We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 16:42:39 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 19:42:24 EST Subject: End-of-Year planz Status: Geez, You guys can't resist a good gathering, eh? Here's who responded to the idea for a little hang-out in NYC before or around New Years time: Jetta jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu dec 23 - ?? Brian B bbehlen@techno.stanford.edu dec 30/31? Regis C Phelan phelanre@student.msu.edu dec 18-23 Phil Z zampino@panix.com -open- Matthew Lehrer br00014@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu dec 18-jan 20 Jim Sexton jsexton@psych.umass.edu -open- Akeera-san IM5448@ALBNYVMS.bitnet dec 21 - David L. Bayer dlb@ocf.berkeley.edu dec 31 - John Congson jcongson@ultrix.ramapo.edu dec 25 - ?? Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com -open- Francis L Sibilla fran@chopin.udel.edu dec 25 - ?? Eileen Reilly reillye@Cyanamid.COM dec 26 - ?? (after xmas) Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com dec 30 - Suggestions: [1] Hang-out in NYC on X-Mas Eve (most people have this day off, i think) [2] Hang-out in NYC on Sun Dec 26, the day after Xmas (not so exciting, but still do-able i guess) [3] Hang-out in NYC on Friday Dec 31. I don't know how feasible this will be, since a lot of people might have alternate plans. I personally would love to hang in NYC on this date, rave or no rave ... it's an experience in itself, and not to be missed if you're in the area. You'll NEVER see New Yorkers more friendly and courteous than on this night :) :) [4] Since New Years is on a weekend, I guess it would still be possible to hang-out on New Years Day itself (*hic!*) or Sunday Jan 2. (also, a little kind of after-the-fact :) but i guess do-able also) Let's hear some more ideas, comments, suggestions etc. before the year is out! Peace, and Best Wishes O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 17:39:40 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 20:36:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: New Years/Christmas Status: Hey, maybe we could hang in the village, check out some clothes, check out some small record stores, eat at some nice restaurant and chill all afternoon. I don't think it should be on one of those 'important' days. It should be either a friday, or saturday where there isn't much to do around anyway. Another question: Is anybody from the NYC area definitely going to Resolution in Baltimore? Does this same person have room in his/her car for more people? I think I _might_ want to go, though there _is_ Alchemy the next weekend. Maybe I should save my _dance-energy_ up for that one..... See ya, Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 18:20:56 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 93 21:18:30 EST Subject: akeera and alchemy Status: save your energy (and money) and go to alchemy!!!!!!! sprockett From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 18:43:03 1993 From: Matt Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 21:04:15 EST Subject: evolution phactory Status: Well, since Sprockett asked, I'm going to post about Evolution Phactory. Okay, I got there with Noah at around midnight, which was a whole lot later than we originally planned. No matter, though, because there were only a handfull of cars in the parking lot, and the same number of people inside. The space was a rentable warehouse type space, but not a club. It was very clean and nice, and everything was set up nicely inside. I hung out with two of my friends until 2:30am, when I went on. The time went quickly, because there was one of those giant gyroscope type things that you can get strapped in and spun around on, and all three of us went on it. The DJ that was spinning when we went in was Ambassador, and I think he was spinning trancey breaks, but I'm not sure. The crowd was, for the most part, either standing around on the dance floor, or sitting around along the walls, so not many people were dancing at all. When Noah went on, more people started dancing, but there were still a whole lot of people who were standing around doing nothing. Allright, now for the really subjective parts. At 2:30am, it was my turn to go on. Because Balu was splitting my time up into two parts, I only had an hour to spin at 2:30am (and another hour at 7am). I had originally planned to start my set out with hard trance, and build up to hardcore, but the new time limitation changed my mind. I now decided to start out with some harder breaks and then go into the hardcore. So, as soon as I went on, it seemed that all the kids that were there crowded onto the dance floor, and decided to hang out there instead of against the walls. Well, I was feeling a little funny about the beginning of my set, so I was really glad to get to the hardcore. I must have mixed the first hardcore track into the last breakbeat track for as long as I've ever mixed two records together, and then I let the hardcore begin. Well, the only kids who seemed to be getting into it at all were a relatively small group, probably around 30 or 40, in front of one of the speaker stacks. The rest of the kids probably didn't know what was going on. The fact that not everybody was into the hardcore was kinda sorta bad, but what was worse is that there were four kids dancing like idiots close to the DJ booth, obviously making fun of me. So, trying to please the almost completely unreceptive crowd, I slowed my set down from about 175 to 150 bpms, taming it down to hard trance. Well, I stayed at that level for about 15 or 20 minutes, and no more people were dancing. The only good thing that came out of it was that the kids who were making fun of me went onto the dance floor. So, being a little bit angry with the crowd, and seeing that they wouldn't dance no matter how fast or slow, hard or funky, the tracks were, I sped it all back up to over 180, and left it there until I was finished. Let me say that at this point, the kids who were dancing didn't stop, and those who weren't dancing didn't start. It was hopeless, and it seriously brought me way down. After me was Osheen. When Osheen came on, a whole lot of people left, but more started dancing too. I don't know exactly what that means. Well, the response to my set was bad enough, but then I had to deal with Balu about getting paid. It seems that he paid every other DJ but me. First he told me that he thought I told him that I didn't want to get paid, I just wanted to bring a whole shitload of my friends in for free(!!). I couldn't believe it. Then he told me that he would give me two Techniques, complete with pitch controls, straight out of the '70's, to me for free. After bugging him once more, he paid me. Having put up with too much crap that night, I left immediately afterwards. Now, I have a few questions. Was this last weekend the weekend that nobody danced at any of the raves that happened? It seems that there were many complaints about that with Generation, and a few with Alg 3 also. Also, and I throw this out to everyone on the list, what is happening to hardcore these days? Why don't people seem to get into it like they used to? I mean, up here in Providence earlier this year and late last year, three of the biggest and best events were pretty damned hard, and each had a great turnout and a great vibe too. I'm talking about the two Quest raves, and Atlantis. Both Quests were almost completely hardcore, and Atlantis had Micro and Lenny Dee making the night one phat hardcore treat. So, my question is, why has the vibe changed? Why do people refuse to get into the shit that seems to have, more or less, defined the East Coast scene in its early stages? I'm not saying that I want the scene to be exclusively hardcore, but wouldn't it be nice if there were at least one hardcore DJ at every party? I know that there are a bunch of you out there who despise hardcore. Personally, I find most trance and house to be pretty boring myself. I think that the only thing I really like about trance and house is how people move to it. However, no matter how I feel about that, I agree that there should be a bit of trance or house at nearly every event. I almost feel cheated that I don't get much hardcore anymore, even though I don't remember there being too many events last year that didn't have any hardcore at them at all. Yeah, I've heard the idea that it's the Manhattan club kids who are making the hardcore unfashionable and the house en vogue, but I just want to know what you guys think about this. I know that I'm not the only one who's noticed this, and I know that I'm not the only one who finds this to be a problem. Peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 18:51:04 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 21:49:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 12/8/93) Status: =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion or calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@usl.com so she can share it with the Technopolis list. 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This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 12/10/93 - BUZZ * (Capricorn) - Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 12/11/93 - SUTURE SOUL - Albany, NY - (518) 462 - 2977 12/14/93 - LIMELIGHT * (Capricorn) - New York City, NY - (???) ??? - ???? 12/17/93 - BUZZ * (Ladies Night) - Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 12/17/93 - SMOOTH @ - Long Island, NY - (516) 242 - 1773 12/18/93 - UNIVERSAL VIBE - Wayne, NJ - (212) 696 - 8939 12/31/93 - RESOLUTION - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 7031 01/08/93 - ALCHEMY - Rockland Cty, NY - (908) 572 - 0259 01/15/94 - SYNERGY - New York City - (212) 631 - 3614 01/29/94 - GALAXY - Washington, DC - (202) 466 - 1692 02/12/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 10 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * an evening with r&s records and astralwerks records direct from belgium... performing live!!! o Capricorn ("20 hz & harikiri) with special guest DJ's o Tin Tin (energy - u.k.) o DJ Abraxas (of fierce ruling diva) o DJ Reese (astralwerks - nyc) o Scott Henry (fever - buzz) o Marc Allen (inner city records - baltimore) o John Knor (atlanta) o Aris (dc) cd and tape giveaways courtesy of r&s and astralwerks. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 11 ALBANY, NY (518) 462 - 2977 SUTURE SOUL S U T U R E S O U L ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Feel the restless flowing electricity of life, Where kaleidescopic lights and pulsating sounds dissolve into blissful vibrations. Tune in on electric dances of energy in a life-changing JOYOUS operation to.... SUTURE SOUL 10pm til sun-up OPERATING THE TURNTABLES ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ON-E (NASA) JAMES CHRISTIAN (L.I.) MICRO (caffeine) MEDICINE MAN (abyss) MR. KLEEN (fusion) SPY (disintigrator< D.C.) SCOTT RICHMOND (fusion) HAPPY (boston) JAMIE OCTAVE (chicago) MR. TRASH (united techno) BILL KRAMER (up north) JACKMASTER FLASH (maine) L I G H T S by ACME laboratories S M A R T bar by THIRD EYE promotions and trans: Conn. United Techno 203.646.6381 L.I. Kort N Greg 516.547.7118 Maine Book Called Galanta 207.885.5486 Syracuse Ramsey 315.655.9446 x310 Upstate N.Y. Up North 914.463.9350 Boston Danny Boy 617.666.2328 Sprockett 617.352.6939 Brought to you by BBBBB IIIIII GGGGG B B II G G B B II G BBBB II G GGGG D I P P E R B B II G G B B II G G BBBBB IIIIII GGGGG $13.00 AT DOOR---------$1.00 OFF IF YOU SMILE :) 100% LEGAL & LOUD AFTER HOURS AT THE A BBBB Y Y SSS SSS A A B B Y Y S S S S A A B B Y S S AAAAA BBB Y S S A A B B Y S S A A B B Y S S S S A A BBBB Y SSS SSS albany _______________________________________________________________________________ Tuesday, December 14 NEW YORK CITY (???) ??? - ???? LIMELIGHT * R&S Records, Astralwerks, and Blunt Academy Present: Direct from Belgium Astralwerks/Global Cuts/R&S Artist * C A P R I C O R N * Performing Their Hits "20 Hz" & "Haraiki" With DJ Abraxas (Fierce Ruling Diva) and DJ Reese (Communion, Astralwerks - NYC) at the Limelight _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 17 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * ladies night (the buzz interpretation) buzz pays respect to dj's of the female gender. o Heather Heart (under one sky - ny) o Jacklyn Christie (strictly rhythm - ny) o Suz-E-Cyclone (dc) and of course the buzz dj's scott henry & lieven degeyndt o Who (baltimore) [where's Laura??] BUZZ will be closed for two weeks for the holiday season including Christmas Eve & New Years Eve, please mark your calendars. On New Years Eve, the BUZZ crew will be celebrating with ULTRAWORLD at Resolution - It's time to rave again. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 17 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 242 - 1773 SMOOTH @ You've experienced Natural High, now get set as we take you higher... Caffeine presents: S M O O T H December 17, 1993 Live performance by Rhythm Method. Also featuring Micro & Luis 2x4 simultaneously. DJs on the night include: Keoki: Disco 2000 * Jimmy Crash: Direct Drive * Blake Baxter: Detroit * Neuromancer: Germany * Scott Henry: Buzz * Dale Charles: San Diego * Rio: Discorama * Omar: LI Underground * Guy DMC: DMC Records * Dave Trance: Caffeine Records * Sameer: Essence * DNA: Caffeine Info: (516) 242-1773 $10 w/pass, $12 w/out _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 18 WAYNE, NJ (near NYC) (212) 696 - 8939 UNIVERSAL VIBE DJs: Space Ace / Soul Slinger / Joeski / Mr. Kleen / Jimmy Crash Dimitry / Adam X / Denard / Miro (or is this Micro? both exist) Robbie Hardkiss / Frankie Bones / Jacqueline Christie Guy DMC / King Brit / James Christians / Sameer Location: Skater's World in Wayne NJ (where Sputnik 2 was held in October 1992) _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 7031 RESOLUTION Ultraworld Presents R E S O L U T I O N Friday December 31, 1993 New Year's Eve $20.00 US 333 WINK MICRO DJSUN JASON JINX SCOTT HENRY DAVE TRANCE LEIVEN DeGEYNDT WHO M-GEE SAMEER RYDE ONIONZ TOM T 12 hours of high energy GYROBIX techno tribal breakbeat MOONBOUNCE trance and hard acid SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE 2 lasers, giant screen GIANT VIDEO GAMES projection by ENO-ONE -- MELON DEZIGN 9 hours of ambient bliss to space your head featuring film lasers projections by projections by P.A.W.N DOUBLE HELIX oblivion lights by RETINAL BLOWJOB Ambient DJ's - wash, entity, john hicks, wordmosesripple and a special live performance by THE ALMIGHTY SENATORS smart bar by neuro-energy drink the water juice bar advance tickets on sale from dec 6th from: modern music balto 410.523.1882 open till 10:30 pm on 12/31 music now DC 202.638.1213 " " 9:30 pm on " loaded nyc 212.533.8463 call for hours 611 records philly 215.413.9100 call for hours checkered past harrisburg 717.561.8898 call for hours eddie van raven long island 516.925.2546 (pager, enter code 94) dezel boston 617.541.4258 bus trips: maine simon 207.871.8216 manhattan mello 212.631.4290 nh/vt nikki b 603.437.7795 nj/ny e-force 201.295.1925 vt mothership 802.860.7545 nj scooter 212.631.1033 connecticut warped 203.454.6643 philly thc 215.923.433 boston desel 617.541.4258 delaware zenith 302.764.9272 albany big dipper 518.465.6381 cleveland funky gizmos 216.238.1451 long island kort and greg 516.581.5426 richmond trance-fused 804.768.2000 montreal dna 514.854.6446 brooklyn dennis the menace 718.375.1954 call 410.880.7031 to find out about many additions to this list. call 410.522.6933 if you want to organize a bus or buy your ticket at the door ($25.00) .. here are the directions take 95 to baltimore. at the balto beltway (695) go west towards towson. take exit 34 - 83 north to timonium, get off at exit 16 east..timonium rd. cross the railroad tracks make a left into the first entrance, you can't miss it! admission: $20 in advance $25 at the door bus trips vary this event will reach capacity .. get your ticket early :) doors open 9:00 pm. after hours begins at 10:00 am, Sunday. DJ's T.B.A. MAIN INFO LINE: 410.880.7031 updates, communications, suggestions about the space: 37000 sq ft in 3 rooms, super-high ceilings, smooth clean dance floor, bathrooms like a YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER stadium, lit parking lot right in front, TO ENTER!!!!!! coat check, pay phones, A/C or heat on demand (wow!) .. 100 RAVE guaranteed :) merchants welcome: call 410.522.6933 for info Fresh Media 410.522.6933 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 8 ROCKLAND COUNTY, NY (908) 572 - 0259 ALCHEMY Technopolis presents * A * L * C * H * E * M * Y * the science of sound + the magic of dance Saturday, January 8 ** 10pm - 7am ** $7 Rockland County, about 1/2 hour north of NYC INFO: Technopolis line: 908.572.0259 Gearhead (MA): 617.352.6939 Gearhead (NY): 518.695.6489 ZOOM: 215.998.9650 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 NEW YORK CITY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY SYNERGY Combined Energy * United Force * An Oracle Production January 15, 1994 * Information 212.631.3614 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 29 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 466 - 1692 GALAXY Thermonuclear productions presents Galaxy. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Mello & Primary Productions present R E D February 12 1994 Valentines Weekend Boston 617.541.4258 N.Y.C. 212.631.4290 READY??? _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 19:11:54 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 19:11:47 -0800 Subject: Re: evolution phactory Status: Matt asks: >Was this last weekend the weekend that nobody >danced at any of the raves that happened? Yes. >what is happening to hardcore these days? From a record buyer's point of view, and from the point of view of From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: >Why don't people seem to get into it like they used to? I think it's partly because of the music. I dragged some old hardcore records of mine out to San Francisco of all places, and people danced there to it. But there's a LOT more to it . . . it seems that none of the original really good hardcore DJs are playing it anymore, so people aren't getting exposure, so they don't get into it because it's different. >So, my question is, why has the vibe >changed? Good question. I sense the vibe getting more and more clubby all the time. Cybertek felt like a night at NASA but under a tent. I'm not sure what to do about it. >Yeah, I've heard the idea that it's the Manhattan club kids who are making the >hardcore unfashionable and the house en vogue, but I just want to know what you >guys think about this. I think the club scene does have an influence. I think the necessity of throwing parties that don't lose tons of money is an influence. I think the decline of good hardcore records is an influence. I think the fact that the big names in the DJ scene don't play it anymore is an influence. I heard everyne bitching after Polaris that it was too hard and too fast. I am at a loss for a solution. As a DJ I buy and play whatever sounds good to me. But as a party organizer I worry about pleasing people. This is all way too complex to deal with. Sometimes I just want to give up. Maybe the parties need to get smaller and simpler and the DJs and organizers need to have an "oh what the hell" attitude again. Take risks, all that. I know I am guilty of not taking risks when it comes to organizing a party. But I really can't afford to lose money and get bad reviews with Technopolis's first event, either. I am very depressed. I think I want to crawl into a hole and avoid the scene for a few months. Unfortunately I have other committments. Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 20:17:18 1993 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1993 23:16:47 -0500 Subject: Re: End-of-Year planz Status: ok i'd like to partake as well problem is that on the 24th, 26th, and 31st-1st there is no way i can get there but i would like to make at least one trip in over my break from 22nd dec - 18th January can we have a get together after new years??? love and frogs!!! neith From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 20:41:19 1993 From: rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 23:40:35 EST Subject: end of year plans... Status: Well, I'd like to go up for Resolution for New Years, and while I'm up there I'd like to go up further north and visit relatives and visit you net people up there. I got relatives in E. Hartford, Conn. and Ipswitch, Mass. I guess I'd be up in Balt. Dec. 31. and go around up north until Jan. 7 or 8th... ............................................................ Rob Rousseau [] North Carolina State University | rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu [] Raleigh, NC | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 20:48:24 1993 From: kellyd@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David Kelly) Date: Tue, 07 Dec 93 23:15:49 EST Subject: Re: evolution phactory Status: Laura La Gassa writes: > >what is happening to hardcore these days? > > From a record buyer's point of view, and from the point of view of > someone who used to spin hardcore, there just aren't that many really > good hardcore records coming out anymore. I lost it with Lenny Dee's > "Fucking Hostile." I mean, was that record necessary? What happened > to the great stuff that used to come out on Labworks? On > Industrial Strength before everything started sounding like it was > meant to kill you? that's definately part of it laura.. coming from someone who was never a supreme fan of hardcore stuff in the first place, SOME of today's hardcore has just reached a point of unbearability.. the way it used to be, someone who did not like hardcore could tolerate it, but now i think hardcore has almost reached a point of being 'hard for the sake of being hard..' but i don't think that's the only thing.. the evolution of *other* forms of music have played an enormous part - especially the current surge of hardtrance which has something for those into a trance sound yet at the same time has a fairly upbeat and *somewhat* hard sound.. in other words, hardtrance is somewhat of a compromise between british trance and a sort of hardcore sound which, in general, has seemed to eliminate all hardcore except the nose-bleed, chainsaw hardcore.. > Good question. I sense the vibe getting more and more clubby all the time. > Cybertek felt like a night at NASA but under a tent. I'm not sure > what to do about it. it's probably inevitable that the rave scene devolves back into a more club like scene.. the important question is can we learn to incorporate what we have learned from the rave scene into a club environment.. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 20:55:31 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Tue, 07 Dec 1993 23:55:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: vibes and stuff (or..whered the dancing go?) Status: well, i cant comment about too many events, but i would like to say some things about the "lack of dancing " today....first of all, i wouldn't go as far to say that this is ALWAYS the case...hypnosis on nov. 20 had EVERYONE dancing for mostly the whole night. maybe its just luck, or maybe some other factors change the "dancing mood" at events. laura had mentioned already that the kids at generation werent too interested in dancing during the first few sets...true, but i think there might be some reasons for this: 1. the weather: rainy depressing days do not do good things for some people, especially after driving in it. 2. the volume: unfortunatly , the nite world owners wouldnt let us bump the volume to appropiate levels...early on, you could almost hold a conversation in front of the bass bins. i know that i find it harder to dance when the music's quiet...and i noticed a lot of people started dancing when we upped the levels. 3. the site: quite a few people got lost, something sure to piss one off 4. the dj booth was WAY above the crowd....meaning the dj could basically see EVERYONE. at ground level, more people seemed to be dancing. illusion! 5. an unfortunate but true reason: a LOT of people couldnt find drugs at first, and were bitching about that :P i dont know...the reviews for generation were quite positive, so i guess people enjoyed themselves.....:) -jason/m1 From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 22:19:46 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 1:17:40 EST Subject: Re: End-of-Year planz Status: In reply to FiSHy's post... here are some suggestions: > [1] Hang-out in NYC on X-Mas Eve (most people have this day off, i think) I think this is the best option. Why don't we go check out Pulse, the new weekly: resident DJs: Joeski, On-E & Bob Bently. It goes unil 6 am, admisssion $10 and many groovey guest DJs. I hope it's happening that Friday. I'm assuming that many people are going to Ultraworld's 'Resolution' since it's the only rave event happening on the east coast for New Year's eve. At the moment, Phil and I are considering Sound Factory instead. You're all welcome to come if we decide on this. Who knows... I might go to Baltimore. The weekend after that is the Technopolis party: Alchemy which I'm sure many net people are going to anyway. That gives us an event for every weekend. If you also include the Primal party happening on the 18 Dec, which I am not missing for the world (primal parties are usually WICKED!) :$ I'm assuming that many people are going to Ultraworld's 'Resolution' since it's the only rave event happening on the east coast for New Year's eve. At the moment, Phil and I are considering Sound Factory instead. You're all welcome to come if we decide on this. Who knows... I might go to Baltimore. The weekend after that is the Technopolis party: Alchemy which I'm sure many net people are going to anyway. That gives us an event for every weekend. If you also include the Primal party happening on the 18 Dec, which I am not missing for the world (primal parties are usually WICKED!) then we'll have something to do every weekend from 18 Dec thru Jan 8 in the New York area. Did someone say party? ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 22:27:10 1993 From: STASIKS%AM.mrgate@woods.uml.edu Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 01:26:38 EST Subject: Review/experience: Evolution Factory Status: Ok guys.. here is my review.. I *just* cleaned it up tonight (tue 12-7) but it was written sun morn at 8 am (12-5) The Evolution Fahctory Story - Deej's experience Hi kids!! I just came back from Evolution factory, which was the second rave which I had attended. My first being yellow. My story: About 11, after hammerin' out C code all night long, I last minute decided to go. I jumped on IRC for a while (ok, hour and a half, not to long) which is my current addiction (soon to be replaced by raves..) , and finally was ready to go. Playing car roulette in my driveway with my roomies cars, I hit Storrow at approx 2:00 Am. Well, the rain was thick and FAST! My beat box 82' Celica did not like the constant quarter to half inch of rain on the road, and hydro planed left and right the whole way. I guess my 80 mile a day, 6 day a week commute has worn out my tires a *little* faster than I thought! Plus my wipers needed help, adding to the visual/feeling experience!! Fortunately, Rich at WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass keep me going to Foxboro with his excellent techno and house show, as they do every Saturday night from 2 am to 6 am! Then, zbc faded, only to be replaced by WIRU (URI Radio??) which was featuring a harder techno to NY style show, getting me primed for the experience to come! Despite the rain, I proceeded to drive right past the point of location. Turning around, I saw dumpy old mill-like industrial park, with a faint foul odor in the air, and there was one parking lot filled with cars! Knowing the was it, I pulled and, and was inside 5 minutes later. I jumped right in, getting in the crowd just shy of 3:30 am. Looking about, there were about 150-200 there at that point. They had a big fireplace going with a fire, one small argon laser drawing patterns, and the usual array of lights. The set keep me up for 45 minutes straight, I wanted to look around, but each next set kept me jumping and moving *MORE*. Nary a bad beat for an hour! Much unlike my dive hangout, axis Fridays in Boston, which is old slow house mixed in with a beat, why i even TRY to find a groove there is beyond me!!!! Anyway, things slowed and got chopper, and my arches were killing me! Damn chuck's! Whoever said that Chuck Taylors were great to dance in, must NOT have high arched feet like I do, for my feet were dead puppy's by 4:30 AM! Moving over to the drink bar, I got a glass of water, and Craig, not able to break it, gave me a break for .50 cents! (let me have for free) I vowed I would come back and buy something else and tip him! (which I did) I started to talk to him about the show. He told me that they are based out of prov. Ri.. and keep talking about Mike, and how he said he did this small (10,000 watt) gig to recoup and make money. He said that if this worked out, they would be having another in a few weeks! yes, another rave in NE before Feb! I moved around, and hit the floor at five on a hard hard NY style slam! I moved until about 5:45, and by this point only me and 10 other people were moving, the ones left were just crashing around the rim of the floor. I grabbed a 'New World Rising' flyer and left, headed out into the pouring rain. Out on 95 north, hydroplaning, I was flipping around the FM band, first listening to the end of the Techo show on WIRU, then to the multitude of Public service talk shows on at 6 am Sunday Morning.. Who listens to this??? 6 am on 94.5 WJMN Casey Kasum also comes on, 'Countin' em down, till we reach the top!' (pluuease!) and when I was pulling on the pike to go east into Allston, the Gin Blossoms new tune was cranking in my ear at #36 or something, i dunno. Pulling out of the booth, I notice the road doesn't turn the way it should, the *oohh Nooo*!! I went west instead of east on the Pike!!! Argggg! so in the hyro planing rain, I had to go all the way to Framingham, and drive right past the woods, (my hometown) where we used to party as high schoolers right next to the Pike! I was 3 feet away from my parents, coming home from a rave at 6:30 am. Ahh, the life! Just before I get off, I got caught in a 100 foot long puddle, hydroplaning 5 seconds at 60 mph. My wheel was turned, but I was still sliding straight! Excellent! Turning around at exit 13, i swing back east, and manage to make my way into allston, after 3 tolls of 70 cents, 70 cents and 50 cents.... Arggg! Pulling onto Cambridge street off the allston brighton exit, 89.7 wgbh had the traditional early morning birds singing, welcoming to the now brightening day.. grey and wet. Pulling into the driveway, i arrived home, and here I am. What an amazing time i had!!...The second time around is definitely better with all things, and raving included... the next SMALL one put on by these guys, GO!! 10 bucks, how could you go wrong???? It was small , but wonderful! They had 10,000 watts, but when I first walked in, I didn't think it was loud enough! I moved towards the stacks to get a better groove and feel into the music. Later on, pulling away from the stacks, i realized they were loud enough, but certainly not hearing impaired levels! I think I have become uncomfortably easy with loud music! While I did not meet too many people, I really didn't intend to. I just really needed to get out and feel a beat, a groove, and a sound, and did I ever! Hopefully next time I will have my badge, (tip 'o the hat to Joe (aka Speed racer)) and be identifiable! From the response out here, the representation of ne-ravers seemed to be slim. (then again, it *was* a small gig!) Well, this grey daylight screaming thru my window is annoying so off to sleep I go!!! - S Deej'! the new found lover addict of raves/techno/Hare Coah. etc etc Phat Phat beats!!!!!!! From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 7 22:42:34 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 01:42:16 -0500 Subject: RE:DJ Fresh Blend Status: DJ Fresh Blend asked whatever happened to hardcore... (I sent him a private note, but I'll mention it here too.) So far everone I have chatted with about evolution loved the hardcore. I think there was one person who felt the hardcore came suddenly and broke the vibe, but as DJ Fresh Blend pointed out, there really wasn't much of a vibe to break. Anyway, *I* *LOVE* *HARDCORE/TRANCE/BREAK* =) =) =) just my .02$ worth jim From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 00:33:36 1993 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 03:10:42 EST Subject: Good Luck Status: Cybertribe! Just a short message to wish all the NE-Ravers in college now good luck on their final exams and projects! Don't get 2 stressed out! Just look forward to all the exciting raves ahead. Peace, Mars From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 05:47:41 1993 From: t808@mindvox.phantom.com (taylor deupree) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 08:51:22 EST Subject: xmas (NYC) Status: tina and i will be around here at some point around then too.. >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 07:52:24 1993 From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 10:51:53 EST Subject: [laura@soda.berkeley.edu: Re: evolution phactory] Status: A discussion between DJ Fresh Blend and Laura: >So, my question is, why has the vibe >changed? Good question. I sense the vibe getting more and more clubby all the time. Cybertek felt like a night at NASA but under a tent. I'm not sure what to do about it. I was at Evolution. I think a BIG issue was there was not a critical mass to get the majority moving. This critical mass thing is pretty bizarre, but there is an issue about the dance floor igniting with people dance synergy and can make or break an event. Now at Evolution there seemd to be two layers of people -- those who danced away prety much the whole night and those that waited for ignition which never really happened. Now, my observation about hardcore is that it really needs that critical mass to work. So in the particular instance of Evolution, I would say "critical mass" was the problem. Also the weather has a *lot* to do with it. There is some interesting interaction between weather and poeple. Some of this I think is the positive and negative ion issue. As a long time regular rink roller skater and through many observations of the skating crowd, I can tell you that wet dreary days are bad for vibe. Now it was raining up and down the East cost on Saturday. I am very depressed. I think I want to crawl into a hole and avoid the scene for a few months. Unfortunately I have other committments. Don't do that. You have been responsible for "ignition". Blast off, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 07:56:16 1993 From: OLIVER N Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 11:52:29 AST Subject: instinct mailorder Status: Hi folks, although i'm a regular reader, i've never posted til now. i need help in finding out about instinct's deal. A friend brought me back an instinct catalog from grin again and i want to order but... they don't ship to Canada! This is common with alot of american comp.'s Why? Does anyone know anyone at instinct? Can i send an extra ten bucks to cover the cost of shipping to the great white north? Will they do that if i ask nicely? Can this bee arranged through the list? Also, up here in Canada we have raves too, you know. i saw some maine plates in the parking lot at the last rave i put on here in Fredericton (3hrs from Bangor) so i know you're out there and interested. i've had dance parties posted on this before but maybe i'll start coaxing you all myself. Also, i'm interested in dj'ing anywhere within a day's drive. i'm not that bad and i'll gladly send tapes in advance. i tend to prefer euro-tekno, hard trance and belgian, dutch and german hardcore. i also have a lot of canadian things you cats might never have heard before. i spun(?) at Regression in Bangor last summer. Though attendance was awful for a myriad of reasons, those of you who did come many said you liked my style. (Thanks!) The Raving Main-E-iacs may have me down again in the near future. I'm working on K.C. to get a gig in Portland someday...(?) Love the list. Saw lots of you wearing tags at See the light in Boston at the paradise. (who were those people in the asbestos suits and construction helmets?) ciao, dj nonsense From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 08:08:36 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 11:07:40 EST Subject: Re: evolution phactory Status: > From: Laura La Gassa > >Yeah,I've heard the idea that it's the Manhattan club kids who are making the > >hardcore unfashionable and the house en vogue, but I just want to know what > >you guys think about this. I've been trying to identify this myself for a while now. The vibe seems to be dying out and some "unidentified element" seemed to be taking over the underground techno vibe that I used to know and love. I thought it was that the newness of it is slowly disappearing, but the above is also true, that the rave/techno scene is dying out and the club/house scene is growing like a cancer once again (wasn't this the point of getting away from the club scene in the first place with _raves_?) The music at raves/parties lately ALL over the east coast is more and more and more housey and shakey/shakey accessible sounding. I used to be able to go to raves once a week and now I'm lucky if I can find two hours of music at a rave ONCE A MONTH. Like anything attached to money, the concerns over "pleasing the paying crowd" and "careful of losing your shirt" becomes a priority over artistic risk and trying something new, like Laura said. It's a shame, but I'm minimizing the trauma of this direction the scene is taking by buying my own records and throwing 10-15 person parties and playing _what_ _I_ _want_ _to_ _hear_ _period_, and if the people that are there like what they hear, they stay, if they don't they go. The parties cost me nothing and I'm surrounded by a) the music I love and b) the people that love the music I love. This is NOT being elitist. This is being TRUE to yourself, free of the boundaries of money concerns and people that come to your parties for the "wrong" reasons. Yep, it's too bad that raves are moving away from what they used to feel like, but that's why raves started in the first place to get away from the negatives of club vibe. Maybe it's time that those unhappy with the rave(aka club) scene move away and start "that feeling again" in another place. It's happened before. dave. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 08:31:49 1993 From: Robert Campanell Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 08:31:46 -0800 Subject: Generation Status: Generation was a good time. Never seen so many net ravers all at one place. Derek and Jason did a wonderful job. Congrats guys. The space was perfect. I was a little worried when I saw Nite World as we entered, but it had the look and feel of a warehouse rave. It reminded me of the space at the first Ultraworld rave. As soon I got there I started dancing to Laura's set. It was hard at first because the music was so low. The sound felt very distant the further you moved away from the speakers. As soon as a few more net raves arrived, we started to get the rave going. I shot some film for a U Network documentary on "alternative music" I'm producing the Techno segment. I hope some of it turned out OK. If I get 15-30 seconds worth of good footage, I'll be satisified. First time I got to hear the Darkness breakbeat that dieselboy has been talking about. Loved the last half of dieselboy's set. The Melon Dezign visuals were real cool. I loved the sampled video of the pie in the face. Worked very well on the backbeat. Is anyone going to Buzz this weekend? See you all at Alchemy. - Rob From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 08:49:35 1993 From: panik@satalink.com (Panik) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 03:16:00 -0640 Subject: DJ for hire Status: Hi all. I am DJ Panik of Philly, PA. I am on the lookout for any event that will hire a cheap (and maybe FREE)_ DJ for any rave event coming up. I spin house and breakbeat. I am available for any event along the Eastern Seaboard (private joke amoung all you Cyberpunks and Gibson fans). If you organizers need a DJ, give me an email. Thanx! Rave on! DJ Panik michael.morris@satalink.com panik@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us (215) 781-0234 From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 10:05:04 1993 From: gsc1@Lehigh.EDU (geoffE) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 12:42:13 EST Subject: Changes a comin' Status: Regarding all the change in music, America never takes a lead in anything. Hardcore could still be kicking and alive but an additional reason to consider is WHO makes this music. Although there are a lot of people in the states making tunes now, I think the major dilemma is DJ's are relying on imports and what happens to be coming out of Britain and Europe is more experimental sounding trance. If you want hardcore, buy a sampler, a DAT machine and find a pressing plant. Spin your own chewns. Second item, thank you Mars for the encouragement to do well with my schoolwork. Only one semester in the LEhigh Valley and I'm finished. Next year I will either be in the following cities attending graduate school, New York(Columbia), Philly(Penn), Chicago(Northwestern) or San Fran(UC-Berkeley). Come April I'll know. Finally, house music is great, but I must agree, the whole reason the rave scene exploded is because people wanted to get away from that scene and hear music they could hear nowhere else. WHere has the spirit gone? Are there other DJ's out there that still spin white labels or tracks that you can only hear at raves? How many people remember their first rave when they heard music that they heard nowhere else? And why don't people dance but just bitch and moan(like me)? My line to all those pushy inconsiderate human beings is, if you want a vibe then why don't you come up here and spin the music? Respect to people who know that spinning records is more than pushing a crossfader. geoffE - "Breax for yer face" ---Fear not the DARK, fear thyself--- GSC1@Lehigh.Edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 10:31:06 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 13:22:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: evolution phactory Status: On Tue, 7 Dec 1993, Laura La Gassa wrote: > Matt asks: > > >Was this last weekend the weekend that nobody > >danced at any of the raves that happened? > > Yes. Nope about 80% of the people at Algo3-Supernature in Pittsburgh danced up a storm to the Hardcore. > >what is happening to hardcore these days? > > >From a record buyer's point of view, and from the point of view of > someone who used to spin hardcore, there just aren't that many really > good hardcore records coming out anymore. I lost it with Lenny Dee's > "Fucking Hostile." I mean, was that record necessary? What happened > to the great stuff that used to come out on Labworks? On > Industrial Strength before everything started sounding like it was > meant to kill you? > > >Why don't people seem to get into it like they used to? > > I think it's partly because of the music. I dragged some old hardcore > records of mine out to San Francisco of all places, and people danced > there to it. But there's a LOT more to it . . . it seems that none > of the original really good hardcore DJs are playing it anymore, so > people aren't getting exposure, so they don't get into it because it's > different. It's that damn "Hot New Trance". > >So, my question is, why has the vibe > >changed? Ditto the above. > Good question. I sense the vibe getting more and more clubby all the time. > Cybertek felt like a night at NASA but under a tent. I'm not sure > what to do about it. Look what has happened in the UK. Traditional raves are almost dead. > >Yeah, I've heard the idea that it's the Manhattan club kids who are making the > >hardcore unfashionable and the house en vogue, but I just want to know what you > >guys think about this. > > I think the club scene does have an influence. I think the necessity > of throwing parties that don't lose tons of money is an influence. I > think the decline of good hardcore records is an influence. I think the > fact that the big names in the DJ scene don't play it anymore is an > influence. I heard everyne bitching after Polaris that it was too hard > and too fast. I am at a loss for a solution. As a DJ I buy and play > whatever sounds good to me. But as a party organizer I worry about > pleasing people. This is all way too complex to deal with. Sometimes > I just want to give up. Maybe the parties need to get smaller and > simpler and the DJs and organizers need to have an "oh what the hell" > attitude again. Take risks, all that. I know I am guilty of not taking > risks when it comes to organizing a party. But I really can't afford to > lose money and get bad reviews with Technopolis's first event, either. Yep but almost NO ONE in America spins Breaks. It seems to me that I have stoppped going to raves where I can be sure I won't hear any. It's better to just stay home and here dieselBoy spin. > I am very depressed. I think I want to crawl into a hole and avoid > the scene for a few months. Unfortunately I have other committments. > > Laura oe From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 10:50:40 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 13:48:12 EST Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: on the remark that america never takes a lead in anthing (muzikwize, i assume), iwould like to draw you attention to jazz and blues. These came from, grew up in, and keep reproducing in the U.S.A. it's hard as hell to find many good acid jazz tracks on import, and the fathers and mothers were *ALL* 100% american. my $0.02 sprockett let the blues make you happy ;) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 10:49:57 1993 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 10:49:58 -0800 Subject: NYT article on Mosaic today. Status: Theres a great New york times article on Mosaic today. First page of the business section. They state that its the next 'killer app' for education.(which I agree,it is.) -Chris. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 10:46:15 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 13:42:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rides/hardcore-house Status: About this recent trend to play more 'house' music and the hardcore music problem, I feel stems from the type of raves thrown. Look at a rave in a big town like NYC, where the promoters are looking to make money by playing what people want to hear. Alchemy, however, which is being thrown by Laura, and being Dj'd by net-ravers (mostly), Will be different. There is no 'pleasing the masses', there is only playing what everybody in the place wants to hear, which means anything goes. I think that at smaller events where money or breaking even(think about it, you throw a large event you probably invested a lot of your own money, a small event is less expensive) isn't a problem, you find the better music, better variety, and --------------> better vibe. I'm not trying to say that big events are bad, but the more people you get in a warehouse, the greater the chances that they will like 'trendy' stuff. It's like the bell curve with statistics, which only works for large populations: The more people in a place, the more who will like only the stuff that's 'in' or trendy. There will be only small numbers of people who will go for the _extremes_ of the music. ---In a large population of people in a dark warehouse at night:: | | - | - - | - - | - - | - - | - - | - - -------------------------------------------------------------------- ^ ^ ^ | | | | | | experimental fad/trendy experimental (16%) (68%) (16%) ---not drawn to scale, and percentages are estimated. This is assuming large quantities of people, such as at Essence IV or Ultraworld events Sorry, I got off on a tangent. I have been studying statistics for a whole week now. }:^) oh, and anybody who is coming to the Suture Soul predinner at Denny's:: Please mail me if you need directions, and also, does anybody coming have room in their car for one aimless soul? My friend Tony (very unreliable) Might not come up to visit me this weekend, leaving me carless. I can get to Denny's, and I do know how to get near the site, but I need a seat. Thanx in advance, Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 11:19:49 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 14:18:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: duh... Status: On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, Digital Druid wrote: > On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, Christopher Edwards wrote: > > > I cannot believe I spelled that wrong!! > > > > HAPPY CHANUKKAH!!!!!! :) > > actually there are a bunch of ways to spell it. > I like to spell it chanukah. (then again, I usually check on a > box of chanukah candles to see how they spell it :) Yes..HAPPY CHANUKAH TO ALL!!!!! [I too prefer it with a ch than the "Hanukah" spelling that's most Americanised] Melzie From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 12:12:07 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 12:11:53 -0800 Subject: Re: Rides/hardcore-house Status: Akeera says: >Alchemy, however, which is being thrown by Laura, It's being thrown by TECHNOPOLIS. A lot of people from that list will be doing a lot of work to make the party go. I'm just the head organizer, my job is to get the ball rolling. >and being Dj'd by net-ravers >(mostly), Will be different. There is no 'pleasing the masses', there is only >playing what everybody in the place wants to hear, which means anything goes. Really? I purposely chose all trance and house DJs so as to give people the type of music they claim they like. After hearing so many people bitch and complain about how hard and fast Polaris 2 was, I didn't want to make that mistake with Alchemy. Now, that said, the individual DJs will be left to do whatever they want. I'll probably haul out my 155bpm acid records (if I'm in the mood). But you will get a mixture of trance flavors and house flavors, anything from distored acid down to a wailing diva. >Sorry, I got off on a tangent. I have been studying statistics for a whole >week now. }:^) The chart was cute. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 12:30:57 1993 From: JASCHOENLY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Date: 08 Dec 1993 14:57:08 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Evolution Phactory/Hardcore Status: I don't know about other people on the list who like hardcore, but I must say that I think "Fucking Hostile" is one of the best hardcore tracks to come out in recent times. Laura, why did you lose it with this track? Lenny Dee has consistently come out with hard, well-done tracks. Remember his Baby E.P. with "Hammerhead" and "Bugspray?" Those tracks were way more well-produced and innovative than most of the other hardcore out at the time. With "Fucking Hostile," I think Lenny once again released a record way above all the competition. The track is definitely complex, as it has many shuffled parts instead of a typical BOOM BOOM BOOM beat. The sample running throughout the track may seem a little harsh, but I only think it adds to the hardness of it. With HARDcore, the natural progression seems to be for tracks to get HARDER over time. Early hardcore sounds slow and weak in comparison to the stuff coming out today. With the release of "Fucking Hostile," I think Lenny Dee only followed what was natural in this genre of techno by creating a track HARDer than other tracks before. Without hostility, Jacob From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 12:48:31 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 12:47:58 -0800 Subject: music and vibes Status: Geoff declares: >If you want hardcore, buy a sampler, a DAT machine and find a >pressing plant. Spin your own chewns. Easier said than done Geoff, and you know that. I do want hardcore, but I hardly have the talent or time or money to become a musician. It's difficult enough just DJing (let alone living the rest of my life). >Next year >I will either be in the following cities attending graduate school, New >York(Columbia), Philly(Penn), Chicago(Northwestern) or San Fran(UC-Berkeley). I am VERY glad to hear this. I've seen so many college kids get involved with raving and drop out of school or develop anti-intellecutal attitudes. Congraduations for getting done with school while maintaining your interest and involvement in the scene. >Are there other >DJ's out there that still spin white labels or tracks that you can only hear >at raves? I pulled out two new white labels I have, buzzy acidy phat sounding things, and the floor fell flat at Generation. What am I supposed to do? Pummel people with music they don't respond to, or figure out what to give them? I *never* bring a record to a gig that I woudln't want to play, and I always bring a variety, but that doesn't mean I always get to spin the exact set I want. If I start losing people do I keep going with what I wanted anyway, or do I go for a compromise: i.e. play what they go for out of what I brought (and therefore liked anyway)? And as far as "tracks you can only hear at raves" there are so many rave DJs with club gigs and club DJs who get rave gigs that there is little distinction between the two at this point. I brought the same records to Timewarp (in a club) as I did to Liquid Air (on the salt flats near San Francisco Bay). Does that make some of my records club tracks or rave tracks? And how about lack of support for newer people from some established members of the upper eschelons of DJing? After talking to Guy DMC and my experience with On-E at Timewarp, I feel like these people who have so much influence on the scene could care less about anything except what happens in THEIR set, rather than being part of a whole musical team that helps to fuel the night. I don't *want* to get up there and kill the vibe or annoy people, and if I see people stop dancing and leave the floor because I'm getting too fast (like when I topped 145 bpm at Generation) do I say "fuck them" or do I take it back down again? I'm a nice person. I want people to feel happy and have a good time by dancing. I take it back down again. >How many people remember their first rave when they heard music that >they heard nowhere else? I'll never forget it. The scene needs new blood, newbie ravers to whom everything is exciting and amazing. I am strongly encouraging anyone who comes to Alchemy to bring newbies!!! We need their energy!!! We promise we'll love them and do our best to give them a good party. Notes from Joe Le Sense: >Nope about 80% of the people at Algo3-Supernature in Pittsburgh danced up a >storm to the Hardcore. I suspect then that this is a Boston-Washington corridor phenomena. >It's that damn "Hot New Trance". Which is funny, because it's the SAME trance that's always been around. What I mean is, there's always been lots of trance, lots of GOOD trance (check out the _Logic Trance_ compilation from 1991 for example). What is this "hot new trance?" To me this a label even slipperier than "intelligent dance music." And there are a lot of VERY good trance records around now, and it's great to hear them. Is the problem that everyone is playing them? And that everyone is dancing to them? And therefore people's experiences are narrowing down rather than opening up? Personally, I find the "bleed" of trance into house and trance into acid and the emergence of fast hard trance tunes to be a good thing. Genre lines are blurring. But at the same time, there is something odd going on. Maybe with all the bleed and merging going on, parts of the techno specturm are losing the parts of their identities that make things interesting? Rather than having a pot full of lumpy techno stew with big lumps of hardcore potatos, housey carrots, acidy onions, and trancey peas, we're ending up with the equivalent of baby food where the ingredients are all there but are pureed into something smoother and more uniform? Humm. Time to get EXTRA picky again when I go record shopping (as if I have the time or money these days). Laura P.S. I'm giving the whole DJing thing another six months. During that time I'll have gear in my own home so I'll be able to practice about 5 times more than I do now. If at the end of six months I don't feel like I'm making a positive contribution to parties, then I'm hanging up my slip mats and am going back to simply collecting cool records (which is how I got started in the first place). From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 12:50:03 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 15:49:24 EST Subject: Re: Rides/hardcore-house Status: > About this recent trend to play more 'house' music and the hardcore music > problem, I feel stems from the type of raves thrown. Look at a rave in a big > town like NYC, where the promoters are looking to make money by playing what > people want to hear. > The more people in a place, the more who will like only the stuff > that's 'in' or trendy. There will be only small numbers of people > who will go for the _extremes_ of the music. You bring up another good point. Everyone's always saying, big raves are good because they bring alot of NEW people to the scene and it introduces them to the "rave scene". With the missionary attitude in mind, one has to balance cost effectiveness with the driving purpose behind the whole endeavor which is hopefully to introduce these crowds of newbies to what we feel is "raving" and "techno". But, in order to cover the cost of these large "missions", you have to be sure that you don't scare away the people with alot of "strange" and "scarey" NEW and wierd music. In my opinion, large raves that are meant to "introduce" raving to the masses more that not end up "catering" to the masses and what you end up with is a big club playing more and more top40ish music. Sure you get large groups of people and it's a "big fun party", but, at least by what I'm reading on ne-raves lately, that's not what we're all looking for at a rave. Small groups work better in almost every situation. Classrooms are more productive. The workplace is more productive with people working in smaller groups in smaller companies. Cultures are more peaceful, etc... Then the people that come are more welcomed in a warmer friendlier environment where they are not lost in a big extravaganza. They then hopefully come not expecting a "moon bounce" or some other promised "familiar" appeasing entity, but rather are coming out of sheer curiosity and the wonderment of something TRUELY new and interesting. How many of us know friends or mates that irritate us with their oh-so-willing- to-please attitude in order to remain friends? I wouldn't doubt that many of us prefer someone who's COMPLETELY real to the core regardless of their outward behavior. Those who act a certain way because they're trying to gain the acceptance of others is the same as a RAVE put on for the sake of bending to gain the acceptance of others. Insecure raves, like insecure friends are pretty darn unattractive. dave. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 13:19:06 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 16:18:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: an AMERICAN musician speak out Status: somewhere in this thread of haddcore vs. house, dancing, ect geoffE chose to say that a possible reason was that we, as Americans can only copy/ approximate the (implied) better music of europe. excuuuuuse me??? i dont tmean this as a flame by any means, but i find that kind of statement insulting. as a mucsician, i resent being told that my stuff is an unorigional xerox of england, or germany, or whatever. and im sure all the other mucicians on ne-raves-joe lesesne, mike perkowitz, phil z, and the like-would hate having their music belittled, as well. do i have the basic idea wrong? if so, im sorry, but for now... i realize that america has a reputation for assimilating the cultures of others, but we are FAR from a nation of theives. i give the artists ive met a lot more credit than that. -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 13:20:21 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:17:49 EST Subject: music and vibes Status: > > P.S. I'm giving the whole DJing thing another six months. During > that time I'll have gear in my own home so I'll be able to practice > about 5 times more than I do now. If at the end of six months I > don't feel like I'm making a positive contribution to parties, then > I'm hanging up my slip mats and am going back to simply collecting > cool records (which is how I got started in the first place). STICK WITH IT, LAURA!!!!!! remember the first time you got two records matched and actually touched the crossfader--i doubt you did that for anyone else. You know how almost spiritual it can feel to create something new..something seamless and unique from two or three prefabbed sources. don't give up!!! sprocket From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 13:28:34 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:21:08 CST Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: On Wed, 8 Dec 93 13:48:12 EST, Kristopher Setchfield wrote: >on the remark that america never takes a lead in anthing (muzikwize, i assume), >iwould like to draw you attention to jazz and blues. These came from, >grew up in, and keep reproducing in the U.S.A. it's hard as hell to find >many good acid jazz tracks on import, and the fathers and mothers were *ALL* >100% american. > Jazz and Blues is a great example...but it isnt the only one...anybody think of any others ? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu deb9@scl.cwru.edu '...I could be Olive Oils number one sailor...' 'I yam whats I yam still...I walk like an anvil' '...she's heavy on my mind...sometimes its more' 'than I can handle.' The Pharcyde From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 13:30:16 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:29:39 EST Subject: good vibe Status: I must share this with you all. Wot a kewl feeling! This guy that I work with just came into my office and overheard some music I was playing (it was ummm... GD Mof on Labworks and that LEGION EP on FNAC). Anyway, he came in to talk about work and for that reason and the fact that he doesn't visually strike me as one into this music (STEROTYPING - Guilty as charged!! :) ), I turned it down. He says "Hey, what's that you're listening to?" I say "Dance music, underground techno kinda stuff". He says "Well leave the volume up. I'm always looking for new music." Well, with that and a smile, I say "Yeah, I dj a little, I'll make you a tape." He says "Great!" This guy's about 29-34 cleancut yuppie looking kinda dude. He also mentions that he likes House music and doesn't get out much anymore. I just felt that TRUE vibe I was ranting about earlier. :) Cool. dave. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 13:53:18 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:52:39 EST Subject: djlist update Status: Here's the latest and greatest dj listing. Again, please send all additions/deletions/corrections to djm@progress.com (don't clutter the list with add/del/cor's) and I'll send out the list with the next wave of changes soon. dave. ------------------------NE-RAVES--KNOWN--DJ--LIST----------------------------- DJ Home Base Usual Style Also Spins -- --------- ----------- ---------- 333 Boston/London house/trance house Adam X Brooklyn hard acid trance hardcore AK1200 Orlando breakbeat Anthony Scott DC Armani Chicago acid house Art Vader Bob Bentley England hard trance trance Bobble Baltimore ambient hip-hop breaks Boy Blake Damon Wild hardcore trance Dan DC New Jersey Dante New York City house Dave the Wave New Haven hard trance Dave Trance Long Island-Caffiene trance hard acid Dayz-X-One New Jersey house hip-hop Debo Boston-Venus/Axis club/funk house housy trance Denard New York-Primal acid house trance Derrick Carter Chicago/SF house dieselBoy Pittsburgh breakbeat DJ Freshco New Jersey DJ Reese New York-Primal DJ Say DC Entity Baltimore ambient fusion Frankie Bones Brooklyn hard trance/house hardcore Frankie Hartung DC Garth San Fransisco house/funk geoffE Allentown, PA breakbeat/jungle prog house Heather Heather Brooklyn trance/acid acid house Hyperactive Chicago hardcore Jacquelyn Christine New York-Primal various hardcore James Christian New York-Primal house trance Jason Jinx Philadelphia breakbeat Jeff Mills Detroit hardcore trance Jerry Jam Jimmy Crash Brooklyn oldies/trance hardcore Jimi Doom Dayton, OH hard trance acid trance john27 hardcore John Leonardo Josh Werner Chicago trance Josh Wink Philadelphia house/trance trance Keoki NYC-Limelight club/house/funk trance Kimball Collins Orlando, FL trance Laura New Jersey hard trance hardcore Laurent Garnier Paris, France hard trance trance Lenny Dee Brooklyn hardcore more hardcore Leo Anabaldi Rome, Italy trance acid trance LG ambient Lieven Degeyndt DC house trance Mario Genovese Brooklyn hardcore Mark Farina Chicago house Mayhem Boston-The Loft house hard house M-Gee Boston/London house Michael Meachum DC-Fifth Column hardcore/gabber Micro Long Island-Caffiene hardcore hard trance/club Micro-Chip Microdot trance ambient Miles Maeda Chicago trance ambient Mr. Kleen NYC-NASA trance MTL acid house hardcore Mundy Nigel Richards Philly hardcore trance On-E New York-Liquid Sky breakbeat trance Onionz New York/Boston house trance OPM DC Oshin Providence hard house hard trance Overload Maine breakbeat/house trance Phantom-45 Chicago breakbeat Prom Boy New Jersey Ralphie Dee New York hardcore Repete New York-Limelight hardcore acid house Ryde LI hard house Sameer LI house Sava Boston hardcore house Scott Henry Baltimore house/trance house Scott Richmond Poughkeepsie trance hardcore SLiP New Jersey hard trance trance Spike New Jersey Spy New York/Disintigrator hardcore trance Suz-E Cyclone Baltimore hardcore Terry Mullen St. Louis hardcore Thomas San Francisco house/club Tim Ryan Boston-Venus trance Trophosphere house/trance Wash Baltimore From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:04:41 1993 From: a pretty mellow c Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 16:47:23 -500 (EST) Subject: Re: music and vibes Status: On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, Laura La Gassa wrote: > >How many people remember their first rave when they heard music that > >they heard nowhere else? > > I'll never forget it. The scene needs new blood, newbie ravers to whom > everything is exciting and amazing. I am strongly encouraging anyone who > comes to Alchemy to bring newbies!!! We need their energy!!! We promise > we'll love them and do our best to give them a good party. when i went to my first rave, i didn't have a clue what the difference in the music played was..and i didn't care. it was all new and interesting, and i got my energy from that excitement. over the thanksgiving break i was at my parent's house near detroit and on the friday night we went to a rave thrown by a new group of kids. in detroit, until the end of this past summer, the rave scene didn't have a faddish appeal, and one would see the same group of people at every event...people got to know you from seeing you every weekend and such...but this party when i went home was a lot different. at first glance one of my friends said to me, "geez, its all suburban kids.." (which i am one of btw :)) but the thing that was so cool was that there were *tons* of people dancing. and it looked like most everyone was into it. and it was *definately* the music that got them...not the bare-bones lighting or the fact that noone "big-name" was spinning. it was exciting to see people with the same naive energy that i used t feel! and i'm not using naive in a bad sense..i think that when you know more, then you tend to concentrate on other things, when you should just be dancing... and about the whole hardcore/house thing..i think that people will inevitably follow music trends when its on a faddish level. i mean, when you can't really bust all those groovy dance moves that you learned at NASA to high bpm music, then you tend not to want to dance...its sad, i guess..maybe its the mark of the end of when people used to just let their body go nuts and become engulfed in the music. that's another difference that i've seen between the parties i've been to in detroit and the ones i've been to out east. it seems like in detroit, you don't have all those kids who are doing the typical rave dance moves..i don't really know how to explain them, but i'm sure you've seen them plenty.. so you just have all these kids who do whatever comes naturally to the music, which most of the time is just bugging out :) and i've found that its much easier on the self-conscious to be somewhere where noone's showing off. and i think that most of what is going on at raves lately is showing off your moves. but, i suppose that was inevitable as well... yers cynically, ;) chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What you take in by visionary experience you must give out by love and intelligence in daily life." -Aldous Huxley to Albert Hofmann -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:10:28 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 17:09:48 EST Subject: Universal Vibe directions Status: This is probably a little early, but what the heck. I found these directions in an old sputnik2 file I had lying around: (haven't seen an actual flyer yet. are they on there too?) Originally typed in by Taylor: >>from points north: take garden state parkway to route 46 west, exit 154 and follow directions below. >>from points south: take garden state parkway to route 3 west, exit 153 and follow directions below. >>from lincoln tunnel take 3 west for 11 miles past garden state parkway. look for a left exit to route 46. take 46 for 3 miles just past toys r us to riverview drive/wayne exit. follow signs to wayne by taking a left and immedi- ate right on to riverview drive. go 3 lights (1.5 miles) to valley rd. right on valley rd. go 4 lights (3 miles) just before 5th light (hamburg tnkpke) is Ramapo shopping center. SPUTNIK II is at 'skaters world' roller rink. (valley road and hamburg turnpinke, wayne NJ). (Uh, like replace SPUTNIK II above with UNIVERSAL VIBE or something) dave. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:14:41 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 17:08:07 EST Subject: attack on apple by the religious right Status: As computer users, I thought many on here would find this interresting. I don't know how many of you heard the news about what happened in Texas recently. Basically these fundamentalists stopped Apple from opening a new plant for its non-discrimination policy against lesbian and gay employees. > --- Forwarded Message from Carter D. Wray --- > > Apple Computer is under a well organized phone-fax-mail attack by the > Religious Right, demanding that Apple Computer drop its pro-human rights > policy of non-discrimination against lesbian and gay employees. Basically, > far right groups including religous fundamentalists are pressuring the > company to "see the light" and discrimate. Right now there are about 500 > callers in opposition to every > 1 in support of current policies. Let's change this. > Blitz murphy.s@applelink.apple.com > and say that you support the company's non-discrimination policy, which > includes sexual orientation and benefits for partners of lesbian and gay > employees. > Thanks, and PLEASE forward this to anyone you know who might support this > cause. > Carter > > ps, if you don't have the time to write something, just copy this and send it > out, and maybe add something about how you own a mac, or are mac dependant > (you know you are!): > > I strongly support your current non-discrimination policy, especially with > regards to lesbian and gay employees, as well as benefits for partners of > those employees. I also would like to recognize Apple's brave role as a > pioneer in the search for equal opportunity, and hope that more companies > will follow and not be pressure by the far right to discriminate against > people based on who they are. With my sincerest thanks and hopes that you > will recieve more support for your actions. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:15:34 1993 From: ebh@usl.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 17:15:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: music and vibes Status: > >If you want hardcore, buy a sampler, a DAT machine and find a > >pressing plant. Spin your own chewns. > > Easier said than done Geoff, and you know that. I agree. It's like saying, "You like Dixieland? Buy a trombone and a banjo, and go for it!" Regardless of anything anyone has said about any sub-genre of techno being non-music, it still takes compositional talent and musicianship to make viable techno tracks. > And as far as "tracks you can only hear at raves" there are so many rave > DJs with club gigs and club DJs who get rave gigs that there is little > distinction between the two at this point. This is part of why I saw my own DJing as permanently run-of-the-mill. Anyone who can spell "Fax" can obtain and spin what has historically been the heart of my sets. The best new tracks are snapped up by the record store employees, leaving the rest for consumption by the general public. Many times I've seen new white labels or even test pressings, listened to them, wanted them, and had the guy behind the counter say, "No chance, man, this one's *mine*!" Also, it doesn't take the average rave-goer long to find out about Planet X, Groove, 611, et al, especially since the stores advertise in all the 'zines. At that point, market forces change from the niche demands of a few DJs with eclectic tastes, to a mass of rave-goers looking for the cool tracks they heard last Saturday. Economies of scale then dictate what the stores order. One thing that has always worried me is that the stores can play God with what gets played by all local DJs, since the DJs have the stores as their only source - if Adam, Spike and Nigel don't order it, or if they only show it to an upper echelon of established DJs into which I haven't been admitted, then I won't hear it. > we're ending up with the equivalent of baby > food where the ingredients are all there but are pureed into something > smoother and more uniform Along side of this is another phenomenon - when the rave goers get into the habit of buying music for themselves rather then only hearing it at raves or on DJ mix tapes, then the ravegoing crowd's mentality switches from "what will they have for us this week?" to "I wonder if My Favorite Track will get played tonight," just as it has been in the clubs all along. Then, they just stand around waiting for their faves to get played, rather than opening themselves up and letting the new music in. Boom: Cybertek = NASA = Webster Hall. :( This is one of the several reasons why I've decided to set DJing aside and concentrate on sound work until the scene sorts itself out. When it looks like a new scene is forming that craves new music, and if it looks like one way or another I can provide that, then I'll think about getting back into it. -Ed From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:24:55 1993 From: ebh@usl.com Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 17:25:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: music and vibes Status: > remember the first time you got two records matched and actually touched > the crossfader--i doubt you did that for anyone else. You know how almost > spiritual it can feel to create something new..something seamless and unique > from two or three prefabbed sources. Well, I can't speak for Laura, but for myself, I can do this in my basement as easily as anywhere else. And in my basement I don't have to deal with scumbag promoters, driving hours to find I lost my spot, getting busted, etc. Part of why I'm going on indefinite hiatus as a DJ is that the few minutes of euphoria I feel when a perfect mix ignites a stratospheric vibe just don't offset all the headaches or all the money I've spent on all the music. I'll always know that DJing is something I know how to do. Should a situation arise where that might make a difference to somebody else, I may pick it back up. -Ed From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:39:08 1993 From: GOD WITHIN Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 17:36:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Evolution Phactory/Hardcore Status: my two bits... i think the "fucking hostile" tracks is among the most unamazing, undeniably lame, and entirely stupid tracks i've heard in my life. i don't know... i am not a big hardcore fan, but i think i know enough to know what required some talent and skill to make. did the pantera track no justice... i liked the pantera track so much better. it's almost as if everything that is put out is gonna be sampled and cut up and used in some sort of a dance song at some point. stop already. manish From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:41:28 1993 From: selway@brick.purchase.edu (John Selway ) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 17:38:19 EST Subject: Emergency ride to Suture Soul needed! Status: Help! I'm DJing at Suture Soul and my previous ride plans have fallen through. I know some of you are going - anyone in the NYC to Westchester area able to pick me up? I'm at SUNY Purchase, near White Plains. If anyone can help, email me or call 914-251-7107 thanks SPY From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:44:24 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 14:43:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Evolution Status: On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, Joe LeSesne stated: > Look what has happened in the UK. Traditional raves are almost dead. While I have not been out to the UK yet (couple more months and I will be in school out there), I look at the word TRADITIONAL with mixed feelings. First, I am not sure it is possible to keep something that is NEW traditional. From my experiences and from talking to other people, there is an element of raving that demands you can not try to keep doing the same thing over and over and over (ie, have a traditional format). THere is a need for something to be new and different. As this exert (or the above exert) came from a post that talking about music, I shall use music as an example. There was talk about times when you could go out and hear new stuff, stuff you had NEVER and might never hear again. This doesn't always happen (in fact I have heard a lot of sets that seemed programmed, no need for a DJ, s/he might have taped the set a few events ago cuz it sure doesn't sound any different), and it can be seen when people are getting sick of hearing DJ A spin his set and DJ B spins her set.... So how does this relate to traditional raves? In trying to make a rave tradional, you are cutting out most of the things that make it good. It's no longer a new experience to experience tonite cuz tomorrow you will have missed it and feel shitty cuz it's not coming back. Instead, you might as well wait til next weekend cuz you have a lsight headach or your feet hurt or whatever little reason that would keep you from going out to something that is always there. Does that make sense? Raves could die out just because we try to keep the good old days around. There is something that separates a party from the horrors associated with clubs, something that is more than just the people. I have seen big old gangsta club dudes out who start out in the corner doing their stance thing and looking tough nd mmean and cool. Then a few hours later they've lost that image and are out rolling their eyes around in their sockets. I guess I see making a traditional format for a rave limits it such a large way tht it kinda destroys the rave itself. Things change but we all bring whatever we have into that change.... hmmmmmm dave From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 14:54:30 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 17:20:32 -0500 Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: On Dec 8, 4:21pm, "goldenboy" wrote: > Subject: Re: Changes a comin' > On Wed, 8 Dec 93 13:48:12 EST, Kristopher Setchfield wrote: > > >on the remark that america never takes a lead in anthing (muzikwize, i assume), > >iwould like to draw you attention to jazz and blues. These came from, > >grew up in, and keep reproducing in the U.S.A. it's hard as hell to find > >many good acid jazz tracks on import, and the fathers and mothers were *ALL* > >100% american. > > > > Jazz and Blues is a great example...but it isnt the only one...anybody > think of any others ? > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > <> deb9@pop.cwru.edu > deb9@scl.cwru.edu > > '...I could be Olive Oils number one sailor...' > 'I yam whats I yam still...I walk like an anvil' > '...she's heavy on my mind...sometimes its more' > 'than I can handle.' The Pharcyde >-- End of excerpt from "goldenboy" Am I mistaken, or didn't House originate in Chicago? Techno in Detroit? When I went to Japan, all anyone had to say there was about how the Japanese (ok, so they're not Brits or European) wish they were as innovative and inventive as the Americans. America is an innovator in just about every aspect of culture. Rock'n'roll got its start here. I think its a silly notion that America is just keeping up with european music. Stop saying it everyone! Or I'll....I'll....;) pieces y'all -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 15:20:51 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: music and vibes Status: On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, a pretty mellow c wrote: > it seems like in detroit, you don't have all those > kids who are doing the typical rave dance moves..i don't really know how > to explain them, but i'm sure you've seen them plenty.. so you just have > all these kids who do whatever comes naturally to the music, which most of > the time is just bugging out :) Right on... > and i've found that its much easier on > the self-conscious to be somewhere where noone's showing off. and i think > that most of what is going on at raves lately is showing off your moves. > but, i suppose that was inevitable as well... I sure hope not. I tend to believe that this is antithesis of raves (or I guess at least my view of raves) cuz the showing off thing is just that image thing coming back, just that superiority complex kicking in, unloess of course the music just moves you in tricky ways, but usually you can tell when someone has stood in front of a mirror for a year and a half perfecting a ten seciond little thng that gets repeated over and over and over and over.... my opinions and nothing more... dave From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 15:27:57 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:27:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: attack on apple by the religious right Status: One quick question, When it says blitz
that address is the people at apple (I assume by looking at the address). Is there a mailbox to send stuff to the right wing people to illuminate them? Although that would be about as useful as telling the kidney bean that I am about to eat how I need it and only it to live and how sorry I really am to eat it and the such.... dave From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 15:39:05 1993 From: dekiyon@mindvox.phantom.com (Sean Kelly) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 18:35:05 EST Subject: Re: X-mas, New Years plans in NYC Status: I'll be in good 'ol NJ for the holidays (though I'm thinking of heading down to Baltimore for New Year's Eve) and would _love_ to do something around christmastime. The only thing I know of so far is Universal Vibe on the 18th (in NJ). What about organizing something??? -Sean "But that You you want to see is not _you_, and will never be. No one else will ever do The special things that wait inside of you." -Whinnie the Pooh From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 15:49:42 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 15:48:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, nate goldbaum wrote: > Am I mistaken, or didn't House originate in Chicago? Techno in Detroit? When Techno started in Germany MANY MANY MANY years ago with a group called Kraftwert, but we've been through this... > I went to Japan, all anyone had to say there was about how the Japanese (ok, > so they're not Brits or European) wish they were as innovative and inventive > as the Americans. America is an innovator in just about every aspect of > culture. Rock'n'roll got its start here. I think its a silly notion that > America is just keeping up with european music. Stop saying it everyone! Or > I'll....I'll....;) I don't think the point was that USA is not good at taking someone else's break away fromthe norm and turn it into something big. I thik the point was that we seem to have no new ideas (no break aways from the norms, nobody saying what happens if I take this chip out of here and replace it with this one and add this here... Until the arrive at something totally new). So while the shit we produce can sound amzing and be great, it doesn't seem to be NEW (this is not easy to do at all and I do not think you can really create something new with the intent of doing it, it just happens). So while me and everyone else out there with the means for making sounds come out of speakers maybe be making things that sound good and are new to the ear, they are not original (we got the idea of using what we use and the using the sounds we use in more or less the way we use them from someone else, more or less....) dave From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 16:02:51 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 16:01:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: New Year's eve Status: Anyone in the Boston area what to leave really late for Resolution, I have had a bunvch of people tell me I would be missing something toooooo good to miss so I am gonna jumpo in a car after a 6 hour plane ride (plane lands at 2:05pm Dec 31) and try and make it down there (I have NO idea how long it takes or if this is feasible but I am soure someone would tell me I am crazy to try if it is not). If not, I know a few people at Columbia who have invited me down and would be willing to provide crash space in NYC that evening and thereafter... dave From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 16:16:39 1993 From: csc@pilot.njin.net (Sean Casey) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 19:16:28 EST Subject: attack on apple by the religious right Status: WILL-E writes: > As computer users, I thought many on here would find this interresting. > I don't know how many of you heard the news about what happened in Texas > recently. Basically these fundamentalists stopped Apple from opening a new > plant for its non-discrimination policy against lesbian and gay employees. Here's the details: The Williamson Country Commissioners voted 3-2 against giving Apple a tax break for opening a new plant. The three that voted against it claimed they didn't want to subsidize "immoral" behavior as Apple pays benefits to live-in partners regardless of sexual orientation. The Texas Republican Party, demonstrating that its ideas haven't improved since the 18th century, released an official statement applauding the Williamson County Commissioners for "standing up for their values". Texas tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen. Hallelujah! Sean From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 16:18:05 1993 From: Greg Richards Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 14:47:43 PST Subject: RE: attack on apple by the religious right Status: Here's what came over the net at me today... APPLE COMPUTER Gets Texas Tax Help Despite Benefit Policy GEORGETOWN, Texas -AP- Williamson County commissioners reversed themselves today, approving a modified financial incentive package for APPLE COMPUTER Inc. (AAPL) despite the company's policy of giving health benefits the the partners of gay employees. County commissioners voted 3-2 to grant Apple some reimbursements on taxes in exchange for free right-of-way on future county improvements. The savings would help pay for a planned $80 million customer service center that would eventually employ 1,700 people. The vote reversed a 3-2 decision last week rejecting a $750,000 tax abatement for Apple. In the earlier vote, commissioners said they opposed the abatements because the computer giant provides health benefits to the domestic partners of its gay and lesbian employees. Commissioner David Hays was the one who switched his vote today. However, in a statement he said his vote did not represent a switch in his principles. ''Last week I was asked to vote to use taxpayer dollars to subsidize, and therefore, tacitly endorse a benefits policy with which I disagree. Today's vote does nothing of the kind,'' he said. The new deal offers Apple tax reimbursements, the total of which will be about the $750,000 Apple had sought in tax abatements. The difference is that the amount would be paid by Apple, then reimbursed back; an abatement would be a reduction in taxes paid in the first place. The new agreement also provides that Apple will grant the county the right of way for any roads or other improvements the county may want to build on the site in the future. Lisa Byrne, a spokeswoman for Apple, said the company was pleased with the pact. Williamson County, just north of Austin, includes some Austin suburbs and other smaller towns. The Apple customer service center is to be opened in 1995 on land in the southern part of the county. (END) DOW JONES NEWS 12-07-93 ---------- >From: WILL-E >To: ; ; >; >Subject: attack on apple by the religious right >Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1993 5:08PM > >As computer users, I thought many on here would find this interresting. >I don't know how many of you heard the news about what happened in Texas >recently. Basically these fundamentalists stopped Apple from opening a new >plant for its non-discrimination policy against lesbian and gay employees. > >> --- Forwarded Message from Carter D. Wray --- >> >> Apple Computer is under a well organized phone-fax-mail attack by the >> Religious Right, demanding that Apple Computer drop its pro-human rights >> policy of non-discrimination against lesbian and gay employees. Basically, >> far right groups including religous fundamentalists are pressuring the >> company to "see the light" and discrimate. Right now there are about 500 >> callers in opposition to every >> 1 in support of current policies. Let's change this. >> Blitz murphy.s@applelink.apple.com >> and say that you support the company's non-discrimination policy, which >> includes sexual orientation and benefits for partners of lesbian and gay >> employees. >> Thanks, and PLEASE forward this to anyone you know who might support this >> cause. >> Carter >> >> ps, if you don't have the time to write something, just copy this and send it >> out, and maybe add something about how you own a mac, or are mac dependant >> (you know you are!): >> >> I strongly support your current non-discrimination policy, especially with >> regards to lesbian and gay employees, as well as benefits for partners of >> those employees. I also would like to recognize Apple's brave role as a >> pioneer in the search for equal opportunity, and hope that more companies >> will follow and not be pressure by the far right to discriminate against >> people based on who they are. With my sincerest thanks and hopes that you >> will recieve more support for your actions. > > From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 16:22:05 1993 From: JWAITER@delphi.com Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 19:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Turntables Status: Does anybody know someplace where 1200's can be picked up in either of 2 ways: 1- New and less than $400 or 2- Used Any geographic location is great. Thanks for the bandwidth. Jim (jwaiter@delphi.com) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 16:29:59 1993 From: howardb@enlil.premenos.sf.ca.us (Howard Berkey) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 16:26:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: attack on apple by the religious right Status: > The Texas Republican Party, demonstrating that its ideas haven't > improved since the 18th century, released an official statement > applauding the Williamson County Commissioners for "standing up for > their values". > And hopefully in the next local election the indys and demos will pick up the ball and castigate the repubs as enemies of free enterprise by denying apple their tax break (and denying the area all those jobs, etc...) > Texas tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen. Hallelujah! > Yee-HAW!!! ObRave: Those guys sure could use a dose of E. -H- ;-) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 17:06:56 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 19:56:43 EST Subject: RE:music & vibees Status: OK!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! I had a great time at Cybertek, so enough harshing already :) It seemed more savage than NASA-like-under-a-tent, and I say this in comparison to the Masakrave thingmabop I went to before Halloween. It was barebones, skeletal and hardcore, in the setting, the music and the people. Seemed pretty original & underground to me... just my 2e's worth :) Terence From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 17:20:35 1993 From: Tikki Date: 8-DEC-1993 19:47:29.29 Subject: apple stuff Status: and one of the members stated he voted against it because he would have to go to church and be "the one who brought homosexuality to" said town. this is real sad. what kind of world have we where jobs are turned down for a reason of egalitarian policy (something I consider good and relatively rare). sigh. Received: from techno.Stanford.EDU by EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #5526) id <01H68YDSV7UO8ZEAFQ@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU>; Wed, 8 Dec 1993 19:33:33 EST Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA09072; Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:16:39 PST Received: from pilot.njin.net by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA09065; Wed, 8 Dec 93 16:16:35 PST Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA17860; Wed, 8 Dec 93 19:16:28 EST Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 19:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: csc@pilot.njin.net (Sean Casey) Subject: attack on apple by the religious right In-reply-to: Sender: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU To: WILL-E Cc: hduran@umdnj.edu, monicat@gandalf.rutgers.edu, ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU, sfraves@techno.Stanford.EDU Message-id: <9312090016.AA17860@pilot.njin.net> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: WILL-E writes: > As computer users, I thought many on here would find this interresting. > I don't know how many of you heard the news about what happened in Texas > recently. Basically these fundamentalists stopped Apple from opening a new > plant for its non-discrimination policy against lesbian and gay employees. Here's the details: The Williamson Country Commissioners voted 3-2 against giving Apple a tax break for opening a new plant. The three that voted against it claimed they didn't want to subsidize "immoral" behavior as Apple pays benefits to live-in partners regardless of sexual orientation. The Texas Republican Party, demonstrating that its ideas haven't improved since the 18th century, released an official statement applauding the Williamson County Commissioners for "standing up for their values". Texas tax dollars at work, ladies and gentlemen. Hallelujah! Sean ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 17:36:33 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 20:15:46 EST Subject: the way they dance... Status: >>On Wed, 8 Dec 1993, a pretty mellow c wrote: >> it seems like in detroit, you don't have all those >> kids who are doing the typical rave dance moves..i don't really know how >> to explain them, but i'm sure you've seen them plenty.. so you just have >> all these kids who do whatever comes naturally to the music, which most of >> the time is just bugging out :) > Right on... >> and i've found that its much easier on >> the self-conscious to be somewhere where noone's showing off. and i think >> that most of what is going on at raves lately is showing off your moves. >> but, i suppose that was inevitable as well... > I sure hope not. I tend to believe that this is antithesis of >raves (or I guess at least my view of raves) cuz the showing off thing is >just that image thing coming back, just that superiority complex kicking >in, unloess of course the music just moves you in tricky ways, but >usually you can tell when someone has stood in front of a mirror for a >year and a half perfecting a ten seciond little thng that gets repeated >over and over and over and over.... my opinions and nothing more... >dave Now, when I go to a rave, I look at the people around me and see how they're dancing, just like everyone else. I'm not completely disinterested by the way they've decided to move&groove. And if I see some guy bugging out, I'll think to myself "cool, that dude's bugging out" (deep, huh?). Similarly, I look at how people dress. Someone's wearing funky garb? You got it! Brain turns on, neurones click&clack, and "Cool garb" comes out. That's all a part of my curiosity (nay-sayers could say my insecurity :) ). But just because they're wearing Stussy or dancing "traditionally" doesn't mean we should look down on 'em!! Isn't that the "CLUB THANG", to see who's in and who's not by their moves & threads? The friend who got me into raving dances in a tricky way, but I still have no clue as to whether he rehearses or not, nor do I care. What if you rehearse it because it feels great when you're dancing?? I probably dance the way you disapprove of, but that's because it's fun & simple! And how does one know if someone else is showing off? The way I see it, let others do their thang, be it Stussy or not, showy dancing or not. The point at which we _shouldn't_ let them do their thing is if they start disrupting the vibe--aggressive behavior, fights, that sort of thing... Rambling on, terence From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 18:43:06 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 21:39:44 -0400 Subject: Vegetable stew Status: On 12/8/93 Laura La Gassa (laura@soda.berkeley.edu) shared her thoughts: >identities that make things interesting? Rather than having a pot full >of lumpy techno stew with big lumps of hardcore potatos, housey carrots, >acidy onions, and trancey peas, we're ending up with the equivalent of baby >food where the ingredients are all there but are pureed into something >smoother and more uniform? Humm. Time to get EXTRA picky again when I go >record shopping (as if I have the time or money these days). Remember, I don't like vegetables! I'm a meat and hardcore kind of guy. >Laura >P.S. I'm giving the whole DJing thing another six months. During that time >I'll have gear in my own home so I'll be able to practice about 5 times more >than I do now. If at the end of six months I don't feel like I'm making a >positive contribution to parties, then I'm hanging up my slip mats and am >going back to simply collecting cool records (which is how I got started in >the first place). Not to sound too commercialized, but you could always make your hobby a paying one, and do club/mobile DJ work. I look at it this way ... another audience for you cool records. C-ya... Bob Baxter | "Eat papa, eat. Nobody likes p00284@psilink.com <-- best | a skinny Santa Claus." -- bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Mrs. Claus to her husband in bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | 'Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer' From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 18:53:33 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 21:52:47 EST Subject: Smartdrinks, Supplements, DSHE, and you Status: It seems that the government has slowly but effectively been limiting our freedom. In response to to other posts on the matter and a general "what's going to happen" feeling, I've do ne a little digging and here's what I've come up with. UNOFFICIALLY From what I've heard there is legislation being passed that would prohibit From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: OFFICIALLY (quo ted from the Sunday Courier News) "In December, legislation is scheduled to take effect that would allow the FDA to puul some high-potency vitamins and nutritional supplements, plus herbal concoctions and amino acids, off the market and begin regulating them as drugs. The law would also prevent suppl ement manufacturers from making false or unsubstantiated claims about the supplements they market. " Although I do agree with the latter, I just have not seen a swarm of evidence against the hazards of supplements & herbs. NOT ONCE have I seen an article discussing the hazards of taking supplements. And my firsthand experience with them proves positive overall. A friend of mine works for a biotechnology company and has an in-depth knowledge of many vitamins & supplements. He has been taking garlic pills for the past seven years and since then has never been sick. In addition, I have articles documenting proven techniques for reducing things like heart disease & cancer through the use of vitamin supplements (Remedy, April/May 1993). Early analysis of an aspirin/vitamin study under way now show that, among 333 men with heart disease, those taking 50mg of beta carotene every other day had half the heart attacks of those taking a placebo. And those who took 325mg of aspirin with the beta carotene had no heart attack s at all. Aside from the positive reports I read about supplements, we're talking about youÿ're freedom. We're talking about our tax dollars funding the prosecution "criminals" who popped some Flintstone chewables. I don't want smartdrinks removed from raves. I don't want to have to go to the doctor for Centrum vitamins do you? As other people have expressed: write, fax, or call your congressman. An hour or so of your calls, faxes, & letters will go a long way. A comprehensive listing of congress fax & phone numbers is available on America Online. Do a search for Congress or someth ing like that. I'm not sure where it's available on the internet, but the address for editions & corrections to the list is jwk4946@tamxrd.tamu.edu. By the way, the president's e-mail address is president@whitehouse.com. Get your list together, and when you have enough info. on the issues below, media blitz the elected officials. Let your voices be heard & let us know what you find out. Post any additional findings on: Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHE) of 1993 HR 1709 (House) and HR 509 (Senate) Nutritional Labeling and Education Act (NLEA) Peace, rave, & all good things Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com Past exerpts: in congress what's being debated is called the "Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHE) of 1993" IF this passes it will protect these supplements (which include amino acids =smart drinks).... so if you want to write a letter or whatever you would be asking your (cough) favorite public servant to cosponsor S.784, The DSHE Act of 1993 kathleen Tell them you support HR 1709 (House) and HR 509 (Senate). -Chris From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 18:57:21 1993 From: 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 20:08:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: X-mas plans in NYC Status: If anyone is going to come to NYC, I'm like 10 minutes from the city, and have crash space for like two people... Oh yeah, and if anyone from NJ/NYC or anyone who is going to be in the area, could give me a ride to resolution, much props to ya.. the fiend From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 19:48:09 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 22:45:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: muzik=cool=rave=trance/house? Status: Just to clear the air: What I meant when I said anything goes, was that it would be 'net-raver' stuff. None of that 'suburban punk' music, or, if I may quote Homey the Clown, "No selling out to the _Man_". :) Individual DJ's playing the music they love best. And just so they can expect this: I _will_ want to buy mix tapes from you guys!!! Sprocket has showed me the wisdom of buying DJ mix tapes as opposed to commercial CD's...I guess none of you spin onto CD? do you? *oh well, I'll have to listen to tapes...* *grin* My first rave experience: Vernal Equinox, Troy NY last winter. One word: Wow. It was my first rave. I was dressed _very_ inappropriately, so I had to quit dancing after about 3 hours. (t-shirt, rastafarian sweater, jeans, penny loafers. *ouch!!*) I've smartened up. he he he he. Even lying against the wall of the warehouse, holding my sweating face against the dirty-but-cold-and-wet window, just the bass rushing down the room over me was making me feel like I was in another world: There was this one point on the dance floor in front of the video screens, with _tons_ of fog surrounding me so I couldn't see anybody, and then the strobes hit, and I was surrounded by a pulsating, ethereal, pounding womb that enveloped me and brought me to a feeling of perpetual peace and joy. To explain it to my friends I put it the following: "I didn't touch any alcohol, any drugs, any women, yet it was the best party/experience I've ever had." -Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From bbehlen Wed Dec 8 19:49:07 1993 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 19:49:02 PST Subject: New restricted-posting setup Status: I installed a new version of majordomo with the added, quite wanted feature of only allowing ne-raves list members to post. However, it sometimes (twice today) has the uninteded consequence of rejecting a few posts (not rejected really, just forwarded to me) from people whose address in the From: field didn't match the address listed on ne-raves. I fixed the first one - Joe, tell me if you want to rectify the second. However, I can specifically tell Majordomo "this address is okay to post to ne-raves", and I've told it your address Joe (as well as my techno address here). Anyways, for the last remaijning days it's here at techno, hopefully we'll be able to avoid the big dramatic net.hemorrages we see every now and then. Here's the two posts that got bounced (but would make it if they were resent again...) Brian --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 18:00:05 1993 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA11312; Wed, 8 Dec 93 18:00:00 PST Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 18:00:00 PST Message-Id: <9312090200.AA11312@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [Matt ] Status: OR >From @BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU:ST000912@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU Wed Dec 8 17:59:54 1993 Received: from BROWNVM.brown.edu by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA11305; Wed, 8 Dec 93 17:59:54 PST Message-Id: <9312090159.AA11305@techno.Stanford.EDU> Received: from BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU by BROWNVM.brown.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0511; Wed, 08 Dec 93 20:57:42 EST Received: from BROWNVM (NJE origin ST000912@BROWNVM) by BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0995; Wed, 8 Dec 1993 20:57:42 -0500 Date: Wed, 08 Dec 93 20:44:14 EST From: Matt Subject: Evolution Phactory/Hardcore To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU First of all, I'd like to thank the people, namely Jacob, Jim, and the Fiend, and any others, who made me feel better about the whole Evolution Phactory ordeal. It seems that my set was a good bit more welcome than I at first thought. Also, someone mentioned the height of the DJ booth contributing to the crowd perception. Well, not to make any excuses, but the booth was pretty damn high, and I could see the entire room. Maybe that was part of it too. On the note of Fuckin' Hostile. I agree whole heartedly with Jacob. I think that no matter how evil you think the track might be, you certainly have to agree that it is by no means boring. With the complaints that we've had on this list about hardcore, and techno in general, becoming predictable, I would think that a track like Fuckin' Hostile would be welcome. Seriously, the Brooklyn mix and the Disintegrator mix of that track are mixed up to the point that I don't think anyone could think of anything else to do with them! In fact, I personally think that those two mixes, especially the Brooklyn mix, are the most mixed up 4/4 straight beat type tracks that I've ever heard. Furthermore, I don't really think that those mixes are that evil either. Lenny Dee does indeed throw in the happier, lighter breaks in the track that help to contrast with the title sample. Perhaps as a proof for my point, has anyone heard the new remixes of Fuckin' Hostile off of PCP's sublabel SS? The mix by 303 Nation is a good bit harder than any of the three original mixes, and it's a good bit more evil (or darker, whichever you prefer) too. Finally, that mix is much more predictable and dry, meaning that it isn't nearly as unpredictable and interesting as the original mixes. Finally, and I'm not completely sure about this, but I'll throw it out anyway, it seems to me that more and more hardcore coming out these days has a very heavy acid edge to it. I think that more hardcore is being influenced by the acid genre, and, I think that that is making a lot of the newer stuff out these days different, and fresh. peace Matt DJ Fresh Blend --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 18:49:56 1993 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA12319; Wed, 8 Dec 93 18:49:51 PST Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 18:49:51 PST Message-Id: <9312090249.AA12319@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [Joe LeSesne ] Status: OR >From raver909@telerama.lm.com Wed Dec 8 18:49:40 1993 Received: from telerama.lm.com ([192.231.221.1]) by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA12307; Wed, 8 Dec 93 18:49:40 PST Received: from localhost (raver909@localhost) by telerama.lm.com (8.6.4/8.6.4) id VAA29647; Wed, 8 Dec 1993 21:48:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 21:46:16 -0500 (EST) From: Joe LeSesne Subject: Re: an AMERICAN musician speak out To: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Cc: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: <01H68QSJHZO20011XV@urvax.urich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Dec 1993 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu wrote: > somewhere in this thread of haddcore vs. house, dancing, ect geoffE chose > to say that a possible reason was that we, as Americans can only copy/ > approximate the (implied) better music of europe. > > excuuuuuse me??? > > i dont tmean this as a flame by any means, but i find that kind of statement insulting. as a mucsician, i resent being told that my stuff is an unorigional > xerox of england, or germany, or whatever. and im sure all the other mucicians > on ne-raves-joe lesesne, mike perkowitz, phil z, and the like-would hate > having their music belittled, as well. > > do i have the basic idea wrong? if so, im sorry, but for now... > > i realize that america has a reputation for assimilating the cultures of > others, but we are FAR from a nation of theives. i give the artists ive met > a lot more credit than that. > > > -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< I have to agree with Jason. >From where did these originally come: Blues Jazz Rock House Hip Hop See my point? If nothing else Europe takes what were were already doing mutates it and sells it back to us with a new label. Joe --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 20:13:22 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1993 20:12:54 -0800 Subject: Re: muzik=cool=rave=trance/house? Status: Akeera says: >Just to clear the air: What I meant when I said anything goes, was that it >would be 'net-raver' stuff. None of that 'suburban punk' music, or, if I may >quote Homey the Clown, "No selling out to the _Man_". :) Okay, I get it. But answer me this: do you think any of the current crop of techno/house DJs in the scene are playing sell-out stuff? Chances are Micro can get much better records than me because he is a NAME and people will send him white labels. You wouldn't say Wink's or Adam X's or Laurent Garnier's stuff is sell-out I don't think. SO just who *IS* selling out? Maybe some club DJ somewhere, but most of us don't go to clubs, or if we do they're clubs like Buzz and Pure that are staffed by DJs who do raves, too. It might actually be me who is selling out: by the time I get to the record store (1) Watts music has screened it from the zillions of available records in the world and decided to distribute it (2) the DJ store's techno buyer has screened it from the records from Watts (that were already screened) and (3) other people get into the store before me and buy it (including the people who work in the store). So what's left BUT the things that there are lots of copies of? It seems you can't win: you can't get the newest, most obscure stuff without being a NAME, and you can't get to be a NAME without getting the hot fresh stuff. I actually don't want to be a name . . . I just want those nights when I look down from the booth and see people just standing around to end. I'll never forget that night in Montreal at Francois' Rave en Coleur when I looked down and saw the room throbbing with energy and everyone moving. THAT is what I live for as a DJ (not for the perfect mix, most people don't know a good one from an okay one it seems). (In case you haven't picked up on it yet, I'm kind of going through a DJ identity crises now.) The most I can hope for is that some combination of my personality and musical taste is enough to get me past the lack of "uniqueness" factor that a more experienced DJ has had the time and skills to cultivate. And this is where the "six months" ultimatum I mentioned in another post comes in: I *know* I haven't been giving it all I've got in terms of developing skills and a personal style, I just haven't been putting in the hours on the tables. So I'm going to give it those six months and then see. Maybe at the end I'll stay in it because I know I'll have succeded in cultivating something unique that will be a positive contribution to the scene. Maybe I'll stop and turn toward something else I'm good at, like helping to organize parties. Right now there's no HUGE reason for me to stay in except that I want to give it a real try rather than doing it sort of half-assed as I have been. >And just so they can expect >this: I _will_ want to buy mix tapes from you guys!!! Cool. I have one now. Email me for details of how to obtain it. >I guess none >of you spin onto CD? do you? Actually, there is a 74 minute CD of a hardcore/hard acid/hard trance set I did once. There are only two copies of it in the world, though, and I'm not about to sell mine!!! >To explain >it to my friends I put it the following: "I didn't touch any >alcohol, any drugs, any women, yet it was the best party/experience >I've ever had." Bring your friends. Bring newbies. We need their energy and wonder. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 20:32:31 1993 From: dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu (Douglas Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 23:31:32 EDT Subject: Re: gen Gen Generation Status: > > > out that people liked stronger beats, but not so hard or fast as hardcore. I > managed to get a connection with the dancers going, and started to take things > faster and faster step by step so I could work up to some of my new records, > but around 145 bpm I noticed I was losing everyone, so I started stepping it > back down again. It was kind of frustrating to look down and see crowds of > people standing right next to the speakers but not dancing. Did they hate the > music? Were my mixes annyoing them and breaking up their moods? Waaaaahhhh. > When Zeetch showed up to fill in for the missing Todd Krulack, I was relieved. I think one problem there was that the music was turned down a little low. according to jason a big reason for that did nt want to upset the hotel next door. But i mean with out the little BOOMINGG BASS and such, if you dont feel the music and can talk over it, the incentive to dance is less. Jason (i think) got the sound up and it made it a lot more enjoyable dancing environment. > I felt good about what I had done, but was glad it was over because I didn't > seem to be generating any of that crazy trance-energy that makes a rave a RAVE. Well for some of us out there you were laura :) > > I packed up my records and talked to some people for a while, my friends all > had nice things to say, which was very heartening. Zeetch played a lot of > records I love but left at home because I've played them so many times > recently, so it was really cool to dance to his stuff because usually when I > hear it I'm busy mixing it! Zeetch played an awsome set, some really nice tracks as well, got everyone into it. Tood Krulak was next and he was magical. The DieselBoy came on, and what can i say!! Good old memories of a vibe of the old day when a warehouse full of people (including me) would exhert themselves dancing all night to it. dB, your set was put together,arranged, and executed to perfection! very very good. I really couldnt stop all his set dancing. GOD, give me the breaks and the piano keys!! O.k. o.k. im getting misty-eye'd and sentimental and all about the old days. better end this now. > It's funny how different people have different interpretations of the vibe. At > the end of his set one of the DJs was kind of down . . . he said the vibe was > > unfriendly, they just didn't seem to want to dance much for a large portion of > the night. It used to be I'd arrive at a rave early and there'd be a line to once again i think a lot of it was the sound system was a little low. Generation, was a very good party. Big congrats to Derek and Jason for put9ing together a quality presentation and having it run as smoothly as it did. Muy Bueno! (have to practice my spanish) Sorry bout the loss, hope it doesnt mean nothing else will be thrown by ya two! doug ))))) a b00minGG BaSSSS for a l0ving raCEEEEEEEEEE ((((( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu a.k.a. wanna-be dj dougie fresh. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 20:48:33 1993 From: dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu (Douglas Zimmerman) Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 23:47:29 EDT Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: > Finally, house music is great, but I must agree, the whole reason the rave > scene exploded is because people wanted to get away from that scene and hear > music they could hear nowhere else. WHere has the spirit gone? Are there other > DJ's out there that still spin white labels or tracks that you can only hear > at raves? How many people remember their first rave when they heard > music that they heard nowhere else? I remeber the first rave i ever went to in a parking garage and it being all hardcore, and me dancing with the other people but wondering: how come there are no voices or samples in it? And i remembered a few months later at Evolution in NYC when HArdcore all over the place and people eating it up like crazy, dancing and dancing and smiling and smiling. There was an energy, a vibe, a feeling you were out there to DANCE smile be happy and live a little. i dont know. maybe its me, but besides hypnosis a few weeks ago its been awhile since ive felt it. > And why don't people dance but just bitch and > moan(like me)? for me dancing is instinctual. bitching requires thinking. doug ) ( dz5401a@palestrina.anderson-lab.american.edu > geoffE - "Breax for yer face" > ---Fear not the DARK, fear thyself--- > GSC1@Lehigh.Edu > From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 21:01:34 1993 From: "DARSHAN M. JESRANI" Date: 08 Dec 1993 23:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: American Musicians Status: In response to MethodOne's post about American musicians - I agree completely. I think that yes, there are many musicians who imitate - but that's just because they don't have the knowledge of this genre, which encompasses house and all of its derivatives. Remember, the Europeans were the ones who were aping our style back in '84. Granted, they've done a hell of a lot to contribute to the evolution of the genre (more-so than we have, actually) - but I think that may change soon. It seems like we're still a very guitar-oriented country, so dance music has been pushed into the background, while rock has maintained its position at the fore. I guess this has resulted in a lack of general knowledge on our parts - I mean, how many of us really knew that house and techno were really happening in Detroit back in '84. Not me - growing up in New York, the closest thing that I got to those styles was early hip-hop and electro circa '82, and a tiny little bit of house later on. House and techno never reached me until around '87 - and by then I was hearing the Euro shit (well, except for like Maurice and the Jungle Brothers :) )! Weird, huh? I just think it's a matter of us as Americans getting back to our musical roots to understand how our culture has influenced dance music. The emergence of hip-hop has really helped this progression I think. We seem to have more of a respect for jazz as a result of this 'revival', and swing-influenced styles are emerging in tribal and acid-jazz music - I'm serious - it sounds like Benny Goodman! So, yeah, we can do it - we've got all the vibe and groove right here in our country. All we really owe the Europeans is that beautiful trancy sound, along with all of their innovation and contributions to the ambient genre. All we really have to do is look back a bit - remember all that old hip-hop, R&B, jazz, funk, disco, swing, etc - then we can start thinking and assimilating and kickin' some arse. Darshan From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 21:13:05 1993 From: gsc1@Lehigh.EDU (geoffE) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1993 23:49:32 EST Subject: Re:An AMERICAN musician speaks out Status: Jason and fellow NE-ravers, Did not mean to belittle American music at all in that post. I myself have just gotten recently involved in making tunes and that would be cutting down myself. I know Method One makes good tuneage because I heard from others that you do and of course all I could do about Joe's 1.8.7 tape was say how much I liked it that he is playing at the CLUB I spin at New Year's Eve. It's just that the dance music scene has gotten stagnant to ME. In MY OPINION(NOT FACT) I have to say America could be making great steps to push it forward, but I guess WE don't like to be leaders. Just like back in '85 when techno was created in Detroit and it took until 1990 to even start making a dent in America after going to Britain and Europe. Why couldn't it be big here first? Why can't there be lots of record shops and stores and more DJ culture? There is now but ask others like myself who dj'd before the rave scene and ask where there were record shops. Yup, New York and Philly so if you didn't live there tough luck. The growth of the scene shows a lot how much the music has grown. What I fear next is the loss of that underground edge and the lack of AMERICANS to create that cutting edge new underground sound and instead wait for the British or Europeans or Canadians or Australians or Japanese to do it. Stay strong!!! As for Ed's comment on how certain tunes are manipulated by stores I agree. I feel this effect the most because I play breakbeats. Go to Planet X and ask for breax and all Spike will do is laugh and then tell you, "Nobody plays breakbeat." Gee, it's nice to be told by a GOD of the scene what to play. Real openmindedness for ya huh! Instead, I rely on friends in England who I send money to and then they send me the tunes. It's expensive and a hassle, and I don't get many gigs because I'm busy with school, but I like to stay on top of things and I'm sort of a vinyl junkie. And I don't like to tell people what to play. If people want to play house or hardcore more power to them, but it seems like so many kids only want to hear ONE style of music and that's it. Sorry, but the diversity speech must come in here. The larger the base the stronger a scene and that is why I don't feel the base is strong anymore. It's almost like if it's not trance or groovy deep house, then forget it, we don't want you to DJ and thus hardcore and other forms of music die, less people make it and then everyone conforms to what the "in" music is at the time. IT's TIME FOR A NEW BEGINNING!!!! Granted, it would get boring if the scene didn't progress and remained the same, but good music is good music and a FEW shouldn't dictate for the many. Buy your samplers and rebel!!! MAybe Ed and Laura I'll join you for temporary retirement. Love and kisses, geoffE ---Know the DARKness, know thyself--- From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 22:13:40 1993 From: "DARSHAN M. JESRANI" Date: 09 Dec 1993 01:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Getting Obscure Pressings.. Status: ..So I guess the way I understand it, is that in order to get the best new, obscure, limited-quantity material - you have to be a name.. Isn't this kinda fucked? Can we fix this somehow? There must be a way to circumvent middlemen who pick through all of the records before everyone else has a go at them. Geez, record buying is one thing that just shouldn't be heirarchical.. (is there anything that ISN'T heirarchical anymore?) Darshan From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 22:46:44 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 01:37:28 EST Subject: oops..music&davibes Status: When I said that the people at Cybertek were barebones, skeletal and hardcoah, I meant the random people there. The ne-ravers I met and hung around with were WONDERFUL WONDERFUL people, _NOT_ barebones or skeleta!! Didn't want any misunderstandings! Love ya, Terence From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 22:59:22 1993 From: "Terence R. Strick" Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 01:44:46 EST Subject: Nationalism&techno Status: On the thread about Europe copying this&that and selling it back to us, and how we could be better , etc. etc.. JESUS, you guys sound like a bunch of trade negociators preparing for GATT talks!! Enough nationalism already--does that have a place in the "techno spirit"? C'mon, global village, multinationalism, multi-culturism, that sort of thing. Seriously, how can you say Europe "takes things & mutates them and sells them back to us?". There are innovative DJ's & composers everywhere, and talent can't be limited to political & cultural boundaries... Terence From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 22:59:03 1993 From: 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 01:26:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: usa vs europe Status: my opinion on the usa vs europe music thing. everything in the usa is watered down and made consumerable by money hungry executives at sony records. where, in europe it mostly stays underground... thats the main difference. im not saying all american music is watered down pop drivel, but the majority of it is... the fiend From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 8 23:05:02 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 02:04:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: On Dec 8, 3:48pm, "David L. Bayer" wrote: > Subject: Re: Changes a comin' > > as the Americans. America is an innovator in just about every aspect of > > culture. Rock'n'roll got its start here. I think its a silly notion that > > America is just keeping up with european music. Stop saying it everyone! Or > > I'll....I'll....;) > > I don't think the point was that USA is not good at taking someone > else's break away fromthe norm and turn it into something big. I thik the > point was that we seem to have no new ideas (no break aways from the > norms, nobody saying what happens if I take this chip out of here and > replace it with this one and add this here... Until the arrive at > something totally new). So while the shit we produce can sound amzing and > be great, it doesn't seem to be NEW (this is not easy to do at all and I > do not think you can really create something new with the intent of doing > it, it just happens). So while me and everyone else out there with the > means for making sounds come out of speakers maybe be making things that > sound good and are new to the ear, they are not original (we got the idea > of using what we use and the using the sounds we use in more or less the > way we use them from someone else, more or less....) > dave >-- End of excerpt from "David L. Bayer" Sorry, but I think my point did not get across. When you talk about the people who take an invention and turn it into something big, I'd say yr talking more about Japanese than Americans (and that was my point). An American invented the car, Japanese are making good on it. Americans are generally at the forefront of the inventions. The PC originated in america. The telephone, record player and light bulb were all invented by Edison (American). Nanotechnology (making super-microscopic machines) are being researched at American universities. The atom-bomb (tho I wouldn't herald it as a wonderful invention) was invented here. It is exactly the kind of individualistic, capitalistic, progressive attitude that has been a part of American culture since colonial days that makes Americans the innovators. I don't necessarily think that technology tells the whole story (it is probably not a great analogy for art/music) but I think you are factually incorrect when you state that americans are only good at taking an idea and making it big. Historically, and currently we are leaders in research and in creative thinking. That's probably our greatest national asset. just my .02 (this is only a post. repeat: this is only a post. it is not a flame. had this been an actual flame the preceding message would have been followed by directions on "exactly where to stick your cockamamie ideas". repeat: this is only a post) ;) peace -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 00:17:40 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 03:17:16 -0500 Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: Ummmmm I just reread my previous post and realized that (taken on its own) it sounded kinda negative (specifically toward the Japanese). I did not intend that at all. I learned a lot about the Japanese culture when I was there and I think we (as a nation) could learn a lot from them. The basis that I was working on was that a lot of the Japanese people that I spoke to told me that they admire the ingenuity and innovation of America(ns) and think its an area in which they (as a nation) could improve. Just clarifying (I'm sure you're all sick of me going on and on). Also, I agree with whoever said that there are talented artists everywhere in the world. Definitely support globalism. :) chuggachuggachuggachugga -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 00:33:59 1993 From: gsc1@Lehigh.EDU (geoffE) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 03:03:35 EST Subject: One last point Status: The post on American music was not meant to be nationalistic, imperialistic or fascistic. Anyone who knows me knows how far to the left I am. This whole little discussion had to do with musical styles and buying records. In no way was I infering that the United States must be the best when it comes to making dance music or that we always copy Europe. Fresh Blend had asked a simple question on "Why isn't hardcore big," and I just wanted to put in my two cents worth like everyone else. I agree with the post that says everything in America is watered down so it can be sold out to the mainstream. Look at what is happening now. Even NASA is releasing a CD compilation. WHo is going to buy that? Also, if it were up to Record companies they would ban all vinyl and go all CD in regard to singles so that we would have to use dual CD players. It all comes down to money and trends and fads. Is this what our scene is about? Should we just give it up for men in suits who have no clue what it means to hundreds of us to just make profit off of? This music is worldwide and for everyone and it should stay in the hands of its makers. For those who have visited Britain or Europe and have partaken in their spirit, you know the score. Every event I attended abroad had thousands of people but the songs were very underground and cutting edge, whether it was at a rave with Grooverider, Andrew Weatherall, Sasha, or Dave Angel. They played lots of very good but hard to find music but all of it was enlightening. Can we say wholeheartedly the same about our scene now? All four DJ's above play different genres of techno yet are appreciated. Can we say the same here or has it all become a name game? Anyhow, I thought this was an enlightening discussion. I hope no one got offended because even though it is hard in life to not offend people I hate making enemies over silly things and everyone is a brother and sister. Peace, geoffE ---DARK tapes now available....Send $5 or a blank tape and $2 to: geoffE 12 W. 4th St. Bethlehem, Pa. 18015 From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 01:30:30 1993 From: FIEND <6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu> Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 04:30:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: >Sorry, but I think my point did not get across. When you talk about the >people who take an invention and turn it into something big, I'd say yr >talking more about Japanese than Americans (and that was my point). An >American invented the car, Japanese are making good on it. Americans are >generally at the forefront of the inventions. The PC originated in america. > The telephone, record player and light bulb were all invented by Edison >(American). Nanotechnology (making super-microscopic machines) are being >researched at American universities. The atom-bomb (tho I wouldn't herald it >as a wonderful invention) was invented here. It is exactly the kind of >individualistic, capitalistic, progressive attitude that has been a part of >American culture since colonial days that makes Americans the innovators. That same capitalist attitude has destroyed nations, races, species, and is in the process of destroying our environment. You totally went off the subject here, but I couldn't let that go by without commenting. the fiend From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 03:44:22 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 06:44:16 -0500 Subject: the future? Status: hi kids. somethings been on my mind lately, so i thought id dump it on you...:) where is all this crazy stuff we're into (raves, techno, etc.) headed? down the road in 5-10-15 are we gonna look back and shake your heads in disbelief? are we destined to follow the cycle of the 60's and the deadheads to painful precision? these are a lot of very open ended questions, but i feel its a vast subject... does the fact that we're all interconnected give us an immense advantage over our predecessors of 3 decades ago? can this be the *one* key that will prevent us from either turning into yuppies and forgetting p.l.u.r. or on the other hand, turning into anachronistic relics who dont fit in society? look at how many deadheads are looked down upon by "conventional" society... is raving simply going to become the (as china put it when she and i were talking about the subject today): "cool thing for college kids a generation from now to do" today a frat boy will wear birkenstocks and go to a dead show and consider himself a "hippie", only to abandon this current trend in favor of the next one that washes across the youth of the 90's... in 2020 will our children and (*yikes!*) grandchildren be "ravers" for a day, week, or month simply be dressing as we did (whatever...) and doing the whistle blowing, glowstick holding, drug chomping thing until its no longer en vogue among the fashionable clique of the day? is this the legacy we want to leave behind? or rather... is this the legacy we WILL leave behind? think about it. peace. love. unity. respect. --------- hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 05:30:14 1993 From: Phil Z Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 8:29:47 EST Subject: Re: Smartdrinks, Supplements, DSHE, and you Status: JJohnnyt123@alo.com said: > Although I do agree with the latter, I just have not seen a swarm of evidence > against the hazards of supplements & herbs. NOT ONCE have I seen an article > discussing the hazards of taking supplements. And my firsthand experience > with them proves positive overall. A friend of mine works for a biotechnology > company and has an in-depth knowledge of many vitamins & supplements. He has > been taking garlic pills for the past seven years and since then has never > been sick. In addition, I have articles documenting proven techniques for > reducing things like heart disease & cancer through the use of vitamin > supplements (Remedy, April/May 1993). Early analysis of an aspirin/vitamin > study under way now show that, among 333 men with heart disease, those taking > 50mg of beta carotene every other day had half the heart attacks of those > taking a placebo. And those who took 325mg of aspirin with the beta carotene > had no heart attack > s at all. Part of what's going on is the FDA's response to a batch of tryptophan that came in to the country from an unscrupulous Japanese firm. The material was tainted, and caused a few people to die and a number to get sick. I don't have exact specifics with me, but I've read a couple of articles that I picked up at an ACT-UP meeting last month. The FDA response, in this age of hypersensitive liability, is to draft legislation removing all supplements from the shelves, thereby covering their asses from any possible remark that they're not protecting the American people. A more appropriate response would be stricter requirements to prove the purity of the products be marketed. Personally I think this would create a large US supplement market, because it would be easier/faster to verify a US product than a product created in a foreign country. > As other people have expressed: write, fax, or call your congressman. An hour > or so of your calls, faxes, & letters will go a long way. A comprehensive > listing of congress fax & phone numbers is available on America Online. Do a > search for Congress or someth > ing like that. I'm not sure where it's available on the internet, but the > address for editions & corrections to the list is jwk4946@tamxrd.tamu.edu. By > the way, the president's e-mail address is president@whitehouse.com. Get your > list together, and when you have enough info. on the issues below, media > blitz the elected officials. > > Let your voices be heard & let us know what you find out. Post any additional > findings on: > Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act (DSHE) of 1993 > HR 1709 (House) and HR 509 (Senate) > Nutritional Labeling and Education Act (NLEA) Yes, absolutely- make your voice heard! It's suprising to what degree you can make a difference by writing or calling: not enough people do, adopting an apathetic stance, so that those who do make the effort become a prominent memory in your legistlators mind. From their standpoint, if you took the time to write, you'll take the time to vote, and you're probably outspoken enough to influence others to vote. Phil Z From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 07:23:05 1993 From: Francis L Sibilla Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 09:57:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: the future? Status: On Thu, 9 Dec 1993, Hossam A. El-Saie wrote: > > > hi kids. > > somethings been on my mind lately, so i thought id dump it on you...:) > > where is all this crazy stuff we're into (raves, techno, etc.) headed? > > down the road in 5-10-15 are we gonna look back and shake your heads in > disbelief? > Personally, In 5-10-15 I imagine I will look back and smile and reflect on the positive and negative aspects of what I experienced from raving/raves. I already find myself doing this to a certain extent about what I did 5 years ago (if I go back to 10 It's more about surviving puberty). Then I was into philly clubs and warehouse parties in west Philly. I think I got a lot out of that period both positive and negative. For me it was the first time that I met a good number of people who seemed to like me for who I was - a kind of odd, somewhat geeky kid. It helped me build my self confidence. It also gavve me a certain ammount of attitude which I have had to get over. I imagine raving has done similar things for lots of kids that age too. Years from now - I will probably be able to reflect similarly on what raving has done for me. > are we destined to follow the cycle of the 60's and the deadheads to > painful precision? > Well, probably. I don't think it will be exactly the same - first of all I don't think raves will have the same impact that the 60's did - I wasn't alive during the 60's so I think my ability to draw comparrisons is a little limited - but there seem to be a lot less "ravers" then there were "hippies" although I could be wrong. I could easily see people saying - God all those ravers did tons of drugs and just didn't deal with reality. (re-hashed 80's sentiment about hippies - but then look at all the people now that smoke some pot - listen to the dead an think they are hippies) > > these are a lot of very open ended questions, but i feel its a vast > subject... > > does the fact that we're all interconnected give us an immense advantage over > our predecessors of 3 decades ago? can this be the *one* key that will > prevent us from either turning into yuppies and forgetting p.l.u.r. or on > the other hand, turning into anachronistic relics who dont fit in society? > Well it might keep us connected/friends longer - but I don't imagine being on the net alone will keep PLUR alive - that is something that we should all strive for in everyday life anyway - 30 years from now - I don't know - the most I tend to hope for is to keep that alive among the people I know - but as a societal imperative - I doubt it will expand to that. > > look at how many deadheads are looked down upon by "conventional"society... > > is raving simply going to become the (as china put it when she and i were > talking about the subject today): "cool thing for college kids a generation > from now to do" > Well I certainly imagine the music will become pop/mainstream - it seems all the other forms of music I've been into have ( just turn on MTV to catch your favorite "alternatve" band!) > > today a frat boy will wear birkenstocks and go to a dead show and consider > himself a "hippie", only to abandon this current trend in favor of the next > one that washes across the youth of the 90's... > > in 2020 will our children and (*yikes!*) grandchildren be "ravers" for a > day, week, or month simply be dressing as we did (whatever...) and doing > the whistle blowing, glowstick holding, drug chomping thing until its no > longer en vogue among the fashionable clique of the day? > Probably - and that is when you can shake your (middle aged) head and ask - I wonder if they really understand? > is this the legacy we want to leave behind? or rather... > > is this the legacy we WILL leave behind? > > think about it. > > > peace. > > love. > > unity. > > respect. > > --------- > > hossam Fran From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 07:26:01 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 10:25:47 EST Subject: goldenboy's party (15th) Status: Hey I was planning on trying to go to this-- Hopefully I'll be going to Ohio that weekend (1/14 or 1/15) so... I was wondering if anyone was happening to drive out to Ohio area at all from the Boston area that weekend. I'm trying to do a travel plan of visiting ne-ravers and would *really* appreciate it if anyone was happening to drive out that way that weekend (at least by the 17th or so?)...that is a long weekend, so... Just a plea for a ride, I guess. I can drive (automatic--yeah, I know I'm lame),etc. etc. etc. (Sorry for the inane sort of non-rave-related post). wfs Jetta. From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 07:44:59 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 07:44:38 -0800 Subject: Re: the future? Status: I *know* that some form of dance/music party will continue to exist. It always has, it always will, the BASIC idea behind raving (go out and dance ecstatically) has been around for as long as music has been around. It's up to US to make things be the way we want now, and again in six months, and then again in 6 years. The big huge megaparties will probably become the equivalent of the Lollapalosa tour -- way cool to go to, covered by MTV, thronged by thousands. But just like there are underground guitar bands, who play in small spaces for small groups and can do whatever they want, there will be underground dance musicians and parties. ( Personal note to Laura and Brian: make SURE you buy a house with a BIG basement, and soundproof it so you can ALWAYS have friends over for dancing, or chilling, or mind experiences or whatever :-) ). The key to keeping this alive is to keep bringing in new friends. You don't necessarily need a megarave to get new people exposed to the scene. If you're going out and you can think of someone who might want to come, bring them along. Okay, next point: I think THE most important thing about the NET raving community is that we've become a REAL community. This will NEVER die, and therefore for us RAVING will never die. It might look different from year to year, but some form of gathering between us will also always exist just because we all are so darn connected via email and vrave. Each party I go to is like a family reunion, it's wonderful. The net rave community has found a way to ensure that no matter WHAT for us a party is more than just a party: a party is a place for us to BE together. This is so cool. Laura From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 07:57:04 1993 From: Hank Hughes Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 10:56:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hear The Light ... Status: Howdy all ... I got a box full of `See The Light Tour' tapes that I'm giving out for free this Saturday - the 11th. The only problem is that I have to give them out at Manray. Manray is a club in Boston/Cambridge. But I'm sure I can sneak a few away. If you REALLY want a copy and can't/won't go to the club - email me. If you haven't heard the tape or seen the tour you can use Mosaic/Web to hear some samples of the tape. My URL is http://www.ccs.neu.edu/USER/thigpen/index.html Also on the web pages are more NE-RAVES stuff like the ROMS, a link to V-RAVE, a link to Brians page, some gifs, some song samples, etc. Please mail me if you notice/have any problems. I'd also like to applaud Brian for an awesome job with EVERYTHING he's been doing. `Good times are gonna get ya' - HANK From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 08:21:54 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 11:18:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOM1 :) Status: Here's the first HOM of the week......don't forget, if you have something to add, or can offer a ride etc......please mail me as soon as you know [melzie@wam.umd.edu]......Sorry, I won't be hitting anything this weekend...but those who will...have a GREAT time....also, those of you studying for finals, just remember....Popcorn is Brainfood :) Keep well all! HUGZ Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ EASTCOAST HOM OF THE WEEK ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 10 Buzz DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Satruday, December 11 7pm Axis Curve [concert] Boston ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neith Love and Frogs!! ncp@csmvax.simons.edu Donato Donutz Allison Thurman Oz Ol ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 11 Suture Soul Albany, NY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [EMERGENCY RIDE NEEDED FROM SUNY PURCHASE NEAR WHITE PLAINS] Spy [DJ-ing] selway@brick.purchase.edu Nate Nattie [Can Offer Crash Space] goldbn@rpi.edu Julian Wang Jujubee, Jigsaw wangj@rpi.edu Tai Ngyen [Needs a ride from Ithaca] thn1@cornell.edu Ira Akeera [Crash Space] IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.albany.edu Jon Webb Glasses Malone webbj@rpi.edu Anthony [NEEDS RIDE from NYC] 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Buzz [ladies night] DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Melzie's Resolution Pre-party Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut :) melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Digital Druid, Cyberpun cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE - Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Francis Sibilla Fran [NEEDS RIDE-Philly] fran@chopin.udel.edu Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE-Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NY] 6ANOTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 08:34:06 1993 From: Se-Wai Lee Date: Wed, 8 Dec 93 19:07:04 PST Subject: RE: Turntables Status: I recommend J&R Music World (800) 221-8180. They list for $399 in the catalog, and they'll bargain if you seem reluctant to buy (or if you challenge them to beat someone elses' price). Also try Pro Sound & Stage Lighting (800) 945-9300, who also offer them at $399. Ask for their catalog, it's pretty comprehensive. Used 1200's turn up once in a while in alt.rave. You also find them sometimes at stores that specialize in used musical instruments (which can also be good places to find used PA's and mixers). - C.Y. ---------- ::From: ::To: ::Subject: Turntables ::Date: Wednesday, December 08, 1993 7:16PM :: :: :: Does anybody know :: :: :: :: ::someplace where 1200's can be picked :: up in either of 2 ways: :: 1- New and less than $400 or :: 2- Used :: Any geographic location :: is great. Thanks for the :: bandwidth. Jim (jwaiter@delphi.com) :: :: From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 09:11:47 1993 From: Phil Z Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 12:11:11 EST Subject: Re: the future? Status: on Thu, 9 Dec 1993 07:44:38 laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) said: > I *know* that some form of dance/music party will continue to exist. It always > has, it always will, the BASIC idea behind raving (go out and dance > ecstatically) has been around for as long as music has been around. It's up to > US to make things be the way we want now, and again in six months, and then > again in 6 years. The big huge megaparties will probably become the equivalent > of the Lollapalosa tour -- way cool to go to, covered by MTV, thronged by > thousands. > > But just like there are underground guitar bands, who play in small spaces for > small groups and can do whatever they want, there will be underground dance > musicians and parties. ( Personal note to Laura and Brian: make SURE you buy > a house with a BIG basement, and soundproof it so you can ALWAYS have friends > over for dancing, or chilling, or mind experiences or whatever :-) ). I totally agree with this, Laura. It seems that the bigger the scene, which usually implies more money being involved, the bigger the underground can be. The Lollapalooza analogy is good, because for all the horrible huge 'alternative' bands that are out there right now, there are dozens of truly creative non-commercial bands that have had the opportunity and inspiration to exist and get distribution/exposure. Also, smaller labels and promoters pop up are more willing to take chances on something that can be 'labelled' and has already established distribution channels. Even though it's a crass ideal that drives the process, it creates opportunies that would otherwise not be available. I really hate the pessimistic attitude that I see in almost any scene I've been associated with of people sitting around hoping to ring the death bell on something good just because the rest of the world is in on their 'secret' thing. If lots of big commercial 'raves' occur, then more underground, true vibe events will also occur, and more of the people that we hope to attract will find our parties, which I think is better for all of us. Phil Z From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 09:50:11 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 12:47:44 EST Subject: Re: usa vs. europce Status: in reference to: JL> JL> everything in the usa is watered down and made consumerable JL> by money hungry executives at sony records. JL> where, in europe it mostly stays underground... JL> whoa? did i get this right? you think that tekno in the us is commercialized? tekno in europe gets about as much air time as top 40. underground doesn't equal 1/3 of the fm radio stations in europe....not for me sprockett From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 10:11:24 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 13:06:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Alchemy and Terminals Status: I will be bringing two of my terminals to Alchemy [one for Will-e] and other one as a spare. IF someone can get it to work there we can use it...I mean it works when u plug it in, tho I dont know how it will behave with a modem connected to it. Jake From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 10:17:45 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 13:15:13 EST Subject: insane new track---go buy!!!! Status: i went to the rekkid store i listened to rekkids i fainted and creamed when i one. they brought me to the hospital im emailing from the intensive care unit if you want to hear this track, go buy "REZ" by underworld on Junior Boy's own my god!!!!!! i dunno what to call it---trance with 20hz-ish drums and goes well with hardcore, house and JAZZ wow, this new genre is finally emerging---one with no boundaries....no labels on music types...kinda wierd, kinda cool. BUY THIS RECORD (or a mix tape with it on it....hint, hint-----i'm poor) hehehehehe sprockett (kidding about the intensive care thingy) From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 10:59:24 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 14:01:48 +0500 Subject: Oh Boston, my Boston! Status: hey all, i'll be back in boston just as soon as i finish failing my finals ;) and i was wondering if you fellow bostonians can tell me where is _your_ favorite place to buy techno? someone told me once that the Vinyl Connection at Copley Sq. is a good place for vinyl imports but maybe not so good for techno. anyone got the scoop on what kinds of music they are good with? oh yeah, and if anyone is going to or leaving from boston for anything fun during the holidays, feel free to give me a call at (617) 327-7381. hell, even if you're just going to a square dance give me a ring anyway to say hi - i'd love to meet the boston crowd. happy holidays =) tai ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "Things are more like they are now then they've |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| ever been before." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Unknown |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) THIS MESSAGE POPS 20% LARGER THAN OTHER BRANDS OF POPMAIL From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 11:15:25 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 14:14:48 EST Subject: Re: Changes a comin' Status: > >as a wonderful invention) was invented here. It is exactly the kind of > >individualistic, capitalistic, progressive attitude that has been a part of > >American culture since colonial days that makes Americans the innovators. > > > That same capitalist attitude has destroyed nations, races, species, > and is in the process of destroying our environment. Exactly. While capitalism spurs _some_ positive elements of individualism and creativity and desire to be the best and all, the extremely deregulated version (aka USA) causes more pain and suffering in the form of what the fiend mentions above. In addition, it strips any and all passion or artistic freedom (or any freedom for that matter) from the very elements that it supposidly helps to create. Heh...Ah..hee...ahh...hee. Sorry to get into this on ne-raves, but I just had to comment on it. :) dave. From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 11:55:28 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: leaving school Status: well that semester is over nextt thursday so i will not be checking my mail for a month :( so! if anyone would like to get a hold of me you can beep me at: 1.800.374.4434 ext 20051 or 215.998.9650 :) also! if anyone would like to send me their phone number so i can get a hold of you (you know who you are) please send them to me before next tuesday :) ) peace, jennifer smeddy jenn-bug From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 12:17:27 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 15:16:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: more on music, trends, and nationalism Status: first off, to geoff e...thanks for clarifying your position and all that... i didnt want to get into the kind of slapfight that is ALL TOO COMMON from misunderstandings...but the whole subject of america vs. europe, underground vs. commercial, and the direction of the scene got me thinking... all too often, we do get into the trap of thinking that foriegn things and influences must be necessarily better than our own, sort of a "reverse xenophobia" so to speak. i remember a time when it seemed like the whole techno thing was centered on belgium artists...now, im not getting down on that, but around that time i had ALREADY noticed the "death notices" for techno in america/uk in the major (and not so major) music and trade magazines. was the belgian stuff any better? not necessarily so...its just that the center of hype had swung in that direction and suddenly everything else was "passe" for no other reason than people had found a new place to bow down to...ok, if that analogy doesnt make sence, let me illustrate an example in our own usa...did someone say seattle? with the amazing success of the nirvana album and "grunge", almost everyone seemed to drop their own things and stock up on flannel. ive heard stories of a&r reps being ORDERED to seattle to find new bands to sign... the point: people seem to be really insecure about their own scenes sometimes, and need to look to established "cool" scenes to have an identity. i remember when derek and i put on the first richmond event ("qrave") afew people were wondering "why?" for no other reason than richmond wasn't established as a scene...there were a lot of people into it, but untill then the only things going on were in washington dc. people need to take CONTROl of their scenes, not rely on others to do the job for you. but its hard nowadays...it seems like some people wont even go to an event if the lineup isnt cool enough. have we become jaded? i think so, and this goes directly to the heart of a lot of the threads running around on neraves. someone mentioned the first time we ever went to a "rave"; when it was fresh and new. i think a lot of the problems we're experiencing (ie: lack of dancing, attitudes, a "clubby" feel, and even the death/resurgance of musical styles) can be attributed to the fact that its not new or fresh anymore and the air is getting a bit stale. we look back to when things were new and "cool" but then dont do anything to recreate that feeling now...all we can do is sit back and mope. this is a disturbing trend...though i have some suggestions: first of all, i tend to have a better time at smaller, more underground events than at the "big name" big bucks events. (orb concert in nyc anyone?) hypnosis in richmond is a perfect example...everyone was more interested in dancing than attitude, despite no incredible lighting or ear-melting soundsystem or $400 top name djs...and the thing is, it was easily accesible. yuo want to do something for the scene? do it yourself. thre whole rave thing wont go far unless we have a strong foundation. GET INVOLVED. support your scene. i have one friend who insists that "rave is dead", despite all my arguements i remember hearing about these wild english things called raves, was interested immediatly (i had liked the music for some time) and decided to throw one... in my living room :) *rolls eyes* anyway, it kept growing and growing untill the scene in basic instinct and then seemed to fall out of the "public" eye. that was the first growth spurt, and then the newness went away for the hangers-on and we were left with a strong core group, less visible but stronger. are we going through the second growth spurt now? but now the established base is used to the rave thing, and dont want it changed. see those people over there? posers. this sucks. if you want to know who the posers were wait till the next event and see who doesnt come back. theres your guide. we are so worried about our precious scene getting diluted by newcomers that we basically starve ourselves.if rave is going to die, trust me it will be because of us, not them. if raving becomes too trendy....just wait untill the next big thing, and the scene will automatically purge itself of "undesireables", leaving a bigger stronger core. it has happened before, and will happen again. as for djs not being able to get good records, what exactly would it require for someone to set up a distribution network of some sort? just wondering. as for myself, this is just a thought, i pledge that if my stuff ever makes it onto vinyl (heehee....the dreamer dreams on) i will make it availible to yuo guys/girls immediatly... well, i know this post has been a bit long-winded, but i hope i made some good points...i just sensed a general feeloing of hopelessness and tension on ne raves and dont want it to continure:) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 12:37:52 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 15:34:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Selling out... Status: Laura is right...most DJ's haven't 'sold out', but if you ask somebody who is not _really_ into the raving scene, and you look at their views and music tastes, you will see what I mean. here, I'll give an example: 1) Polaris....A whole bunch of SUNY-Albany students went to Polaris. What type of people? Well, they looked like ravers, but they were more grungy. I don't know if you understand what I mean, but they would have been happy listening to The Shamen, Finitribe, 808 State, Moby, LoA, etc. I sort of consider those mentioned 'fluff'. By fluff I mean commercialized. Not that that is bad, I still love Nine Inch Nails even though he is in my mind 'fluff' alternative/industrial, but when I go raving I don't really want to hear, 'Love Sex Intelligence', or "I sit on acid"(though I do like LoA when I'm in some club like Limelight.....) Also, these people were going _for_ the drugs, the atmosphere, not the music. I know that atmosphere is amazing, but _these_ bunch really like to listen to BioHazard, and other grunge music. They _never_ listen to Rave music, and they did not recognize any song at Polaris... I, also listen to other music, (even Biohazard), but I _enjoy_ listening to Trance/House/Hardcore/etc. If it comes on some small station on the radio, I turn it up, and when I _do_ find good mix tapes, I will play them..._LOUD_. I apolgize to everybody, because I sort-of-am voicing my opinion, but I _do_ find lots of people who _go_ or _want_ to go to raves aren't into the rave scene. They go for the 'illegal' feel of the events, the 'drugs' at the events, and, as I've heard many of them say, the 'weirdos dressed fucked up' at the events. Actual ____Ravers____ are far and few between In my opinion. Those of you on the net _are_, because of your dedication to helping the scene, and the actual attempts at going out of your way for events and other net-ravers. I am very happy to have been exposed to this community, and I hope I stay with you guys for a long, long time. I used to be on other net-communities, but only on here and on vrave do I get such a feeling of warmth and actual caring. Keep it up, and I hope to be an integral part and help in this net-communities future.... Peace, Joy and Love, Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 12:44:08 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 15:43:23 EST Subject: Re: the future? Status: > down the road in 5-10-15 are we gonna look back and shake your heads in > disbelief? Funny you should mention this. I've been thinking about this for about the last 6+ months now and the conclusion I've come up with is, at least for the foreseeable future, I WON'T be "looking back on it". "Looking back" assumes that you plan to aspire to another point where this music/scene is not as important to you. While I very well may at a different point in my life in the future, I CANNOT see this music as something that will get left behind as something to look back on. That feels damn good too! Either this is something that has perminantly etched itself in my very soul or I just can't seem (or don't want to) look beyond the very important NOW. Probably a little of both. The music/scene may very well find it's way to the mainstream and MTV and corporate music slime and may find itself a place next to the deadhead scene (if it ever gets that big AND popular). I suppose that's inevitable, but the TRUE meaning of it all (as we know it) will always be at this place in time. It's like talking to a person who followed the Dead in the early, early days and asking them about the *feeling* of the scene now with the trend hopping frat boys, blah, blah blah and how it compares to those days of it's original inception. They'd probably laugh or cry, but I can't imagine you'd find many similarities anymore. anyway. dave. From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 14:25:03 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 17:22:55 EST Subject: Universal Vibe corrections Status: I just called the info line for this event. The correct phone number is: (212)696-8938 NOT what is listed below. Saturday, December 18 WAYNE, NJ (near NYC) (212) 696 - 8939 UNIVERSAL VIBE DJs: Space Ace / Soul Slinger / Joeski / Mr. Kleen / Jimmy Crash Dimitry / Adam X / Denard / Miro (or is this Micro? both exist) Robbie Hardkiss / Frankie Bones / Jacqueline Christie Guy DMC / King Brit / James Christians / Sameer Location: Skater's World in Wayne NJ (where Sputnik 2 was held in October 1992) DJs for the event are: Scott Henry, Robbie Hardkiss, Frankie Bones, James Christian, Guy DMC, King Britt, Denard, Micro, Wink, Adam X, Soul Slinger and Dmitri. DJs for the free afterparty are: Jaqueline Christie, Kise, Mr. Kleen, Space Ace, Joeski, Jimmy Crash and Sameer plus: 4 extra unannounced special DJs. The price is $17. Tickets are available from Groove Records (Brooklyn, NY), Planet X (New Brunswick, NJ) and 611 (Philadelphia, PA). If you are coming from out of the tri-state area, call the info line for details on how to get advance tickets. From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 14:54:40 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 17:52:31 EST Subject: Re: goldenboy's party (15th) Status: In reply to Jetta's post about Goldenboy's party: I was planning on taking a bus or some cheap transportation out to Pittsburg if I don't get a ride. From most points east, Pittsburgh is on the way so I figure I'd get a ride from there at least. Besides, all the net people in Pitt complain all the time about how we never visit them or check out their scene so why don't we all meet up there first? :-) If there are people from Philly going, I can catch a bus there instead or whatever works out for anywhere around NY city. The party is a month away but for many of us, it is quite a trek and I know quite a few people want to go - especially from looking at Goldenboy's list (44 people!) so organizing early is a good idea. GB! Would you change the "needs ride" column to "rides" so that if someone has space in their car, it would also say "can fit 2" as well as "needs a ride" ? If you're too busy, I'd be willing to help with this. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 17:11:22 1993 From: vkuperma@mason1.gmu.edu () Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 20:11:16 -0500 Subject: Thermonuclear/Spacenet rave Status: The next even will be on February 6 - The 2nd Coming Stay tuned as yours truly will bring you the latest in development of this project. Speedcore Azylum!!!!!!!!!!!! BD The Sinister Psychiatrist, S p e e d D e m o n From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 17:54:59 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Thu, 09 Dec 1993 20:52:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Directions to Denny's... Status: Hey everybody. One last time, in case anybody missed it or needs it: Pre-Dinner for Suture-Soul at Denny's on Western Avenue in Albany.... time: 8:15-8:30. (I'll be there at 8:00 waiting in the 'lobby') I think the street address is 1480 Western Avenue, but I'm not sure. From I-87 (The Northway): From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: From I-90: From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: I-90 West: Take it to exit 2 (SUNY albany or University at Albany) This will bring you to a light. Make a left at the light onto FULLER ROAD. Take FULLER ROAD to the End. Then you can only go left or right. make a RIGHT onto WESTERN AVE. Denny's is about 10,000 feet up the street on the left. You can't miss it. If you go under the overpass you know you went to far. From I-287 (The Thruway): From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: Take exit 24 to toll both...after toll both stay in left lane. get off EXIT 2, which is (SUNY Albany or University at Albany) at light, make right onto WASHINGTON AVENUE. Make FIRST left onto FULLER ROAD. Go down fuller road to end. make right onto WESTERN AVENUE. Denny's is 10,000 feet up street on left. You can't miss it. Yo Sprocket, I think it's time for another final 'SUTURE STOMACH', v.3.3 :) I'd put a burning 'ne-rave' sign up in front of the Denny's, but I don't think that the management would appreciate that. *evil grin* -Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 23:08:19 1993 From: 8bit@vlad.bowker.com (Daniel Nicholson) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 00:20:14 EST Subject: American musicians Status: "DARSHAN M. JESRANI" writes: > So, yeah, we can do it - we've got all the vibe and groove right here > in our country. All we really owe the Europeans is that beautiful > trancy sound, along with all of their innovation and contributions to > the ambient genre. All we really have to do is look back a bit - remember > all that old hip-hop, R&B, jazz, funk, disco, swing, etc - then we > can start thinking and assimilating and kickin' some arse. As an american who works actively WITH fellow european music makers, I really don't think we should look at things this way -- what ever happened to the idea of the global village here? it still exists for me. recognize the individual people as what they are - individuals. there are many american techno musicians who are brilliant, but undiscovered. the only real problem here in america with the dance music scene is that we don't get to hear the great stuff - the *record companies* are more interested in the same old, same old, ie 'rock and roll'. excuse my sleep depraved rantings if they're incoherent. - dan ======================================================================= _ __ ___ |_| |_) | | 8-Bit Collective spannin' da globe ____/\|_| ~_|_) | |/\____ oulu to jersey! Clonor the Other + edrone + Bleep 'n Blonk (the azid twins) + Paranomia ======================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 23:08:17 1993 From: 8bit@vlad.bowker.com (Daniel Nicholson) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 00:22:56 EST Subject: re: Nationalism&techno Status: "Terence R. Strick" writes: > JESUS, you guys sound like a bunch of trade negociators preparing > for GATT talks!! Enough nationalism already--does that have a place in > the "techno spirit"? C'mon, global village, multinationalism, > multi-culturism, that sort of thing. Seriously, how can you say Europe _Exactly_! :) > "takes things & mutates them and sells them back to us?". There are > innovative DJ's & composers everywhere, and talent can't be limited > to political & cultural boundaries... And after all, just using a SAMPLER is "taking things, mutating them and selling them back to people". :) - dan ======================================================================= _ __ ___ |_| |_) | | 8-Bit Collective spannin' da globe ____/\|_| ~_|_) | |/\____ oulu to jersey! Clonor the Other + edrone + Bleep 'n Blonk (the azid twins) + Paranomia ======================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 23:26:12 1993 From: dq158@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Knowles) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 02:26:03 -0500 Subject: Thanks Status: Welp, I'm off on my break after tommorrow. But I wanted to thank everyone here before I left... As you all probably know I'm a newbie and I've only been to three raves. So far, everyone I've met has been real great and has helped me feel like I'm part of a family... I know all of this sounds mushy and all but I just wanted to thank everyone before I left. pees-owt -bk From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 23:33:43 1993 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 02:03:50 EST Subject: Sittin' round at home... Status: Cybertribe! What's up y'all? Who's going to Universal Vibe next weekend? I know some of you won't be around here very much longer before Christmas, so I thought I'd ask early (and since I've just been home tonight trying to fix my dad's computer which I messed up real good). Send me e-mail if you are. Peace, Mars From bbehlen Fri Dec 10 00:47:14 1993 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 00:47:09 PST Subject: forwarded mail Status: --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 11:47:01 1993 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA05258; Thu, 9 Dec 93 11:46:56 PST Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 11:46:56 PST Message-Id: <9312091946.AA05258@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [Oz Lubling ] Status: OR >From ol@cs.brandeis.edu Thu Dec 9 11:46:49 1993 Received: from cs.brandeis.edu (berry.cs.brandeis.edu) by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA05252; Thu, 9 Dec 93 11:46:49 PST Received: from cran.cs.brandeis.edu by cs.brandeis.edu Thu, 9 Dec 1993 14:46:59 -0500 Received: by cran.cs.brandeis.edu (1.37.109.8/UofC3.0) id AA11601; Thu, 9 Dec 1993 14:47:07 -0500 From: Oz Lubling Message-Id: <9312091947.AA11601@cran.cs.brandeis.edu> Subject: Re: insane new track---go buy!!!! To: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 14:47:07 -0500 (EST) Cc: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU (NorthEast Rave List) In-Reply-To: <9312091815.AA82063@acs3.bu.edu> from "Kristopher Setchfield" at Dec 9, 93 01:15:13 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 170 I guess you haven't been out much! this track has been around 6 months or more and they used to play it every week at the loft this summer like 3 times a night. oz --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 9 18:58:51 1993 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA10425; Thu, 9 Dec 93 18:58:44 PST Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 18:58:44 PST Message-Id: <9312100258.AA10425@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [cte9q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu] Status: OR >From cte9q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Thu Dec 9 18:58:39 1993 Received: from virginia.edu (uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU) by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA10419; Thu, 9 Dec 93 18:58:39 PST Received: from uva.pcmail.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa01795; 9 Dec 93 21:58 EST Received: by uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA29694; Thu, 9 Dec 93 21:58:34 EST Date: Thu, 9 Dec 93 21:58:34 EST From: cte9q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Message-Id: <9312100258.AA29694@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.3 5/22/91) To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu, seraves@american.edu, dcraves@american.edu, ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Winter Break Gettin' It on List Hey kids!!! Well Winter Break is almost here and an idea has been batted around... HOW THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO SEE EACHOTHER???? But no fear... today I present with special thanks to Melzie and Rainbow.... THE 1993 WINTER BREAK: GeTTIN' IT ON LIST This little project is going to have to be completed early and quickly... like Monday or Tuesday... SOOO I need your complete cooperation. You must no matter what little Gremlins tell you FOLLOW THIS FORM EXACTLY!!!! So here is the form... [name] [handle] [e-mail address] [home address and phone number] [anything else that may be helpful] [in the Lines that follow list the events you'll be attending] like this.... event place date here's an example Kristopher Kringle sAntA sAntA@thepole.com Holiday Workshop North Pole, Earth 555.GIFT Lots of Crash space. Call first (the Mrs. isn't always that hospitable.) Polarity North Pole 18 December Resolution Baltimore 31 December (where else?) Mush N. Territory Canada January :) All right there it is Please PleasePLEASE!!! follow it... thank you :) Also the dates we decided for Break (despite what your school might think.... December 18th to January 22nd (inclusive) so get those submissions in...preferrably by Sunday nite... Peace. and hAppy holidAzE.... ^ ^ ^ t o F e r ____ _ _ _ - _ ^ ^ ONCE you stArt you cAn nEvEr stoP. Christopher......cte9q@virigina.edu --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 08:05:39 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 11:05:23 -0500 Subject: Winter Break Status: allright! :) well, finals hell is almost over for alot of you, and it seems that from vraving/talking to people, alot of you are planning the exact same thing... going to both RESOLUTION and ALCHEMY... many of us are planning on making the whole week one long (road)trip...:) and i was just thinking that if theres gonna be this wikked convoy of ravers going from baltimore/dc to nyc over the course of a week, we should get together and make some loose plans, or at least let one another know what our plans are/what cool stuff there is to do in various places along the way (philly, nj, etc...) this way, if someone has/needs a ride or knows of crash space, or a really cool exhibit at a museum or something, the rest of us could be clued in too...if you know of cool record stores, places we **cannot** miss along the way, pipe up NOW and let us know... heres what i envision as a ROUGH itinerary... --get to balto/dc, do whatever depending on when you get there... --if you want to, check out melzie's resolution preparty since she wont be able to make it...:( --if there are any other preparties/related open parties that you wanna tell us about, go ahead. [12/31] --um, maybe stop by RESOLUTION for a few minutes after arriving fashionably late...(sheah right! im with the first in, last out cru! :) [12/31-1/1] --hit the afterparty(s) for some much needed recuperation...who knows how long this could take? [1/1-1/2?] ***its at this point that we need to know what going on, so we can get rides and plans together...*** ** -here's where the schedule get a bit fuzzy-** --check out baltimore for a bit? (this could easily be part of the afterparty thing) [1/2-1/3] --make our way up to philly! :) and experience all the city of brotherly love has to offer...[1/3-1/4-1/5?] --from philly headed up to nj, esp northern new jersey...check out planet x and stuph...[1/5-1/6] hit nyc!!! [1/6-1/7-1/8] ------------------------------------ like i said, this is a *rough* itinerary, please feel free to let all of us know what _you_ think... some of you might be thinking....its TOO EARLY to be talking about this, its like three weeks away! well, alot of us wont have net access over break, and that last minute communication thing (ie, HELP! i need a ride...:) wont work...another way we take the net for granted, but anyway! we have to nail down fairly a fairly solid outline NOW!... if you have a ride, let us know, if you have crash space, ditto...if you have neither, but dont want to miss out on this awesome trip, let us know!!! thats what this is about...sharing/pooling resources... please limit the distribution of your replies to wherever you think its best directed...but if things look bleak...give a shout....someone on the eastern seaboard is sure to reply...:) i cant wait (literally). :) peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 08:42:33 1993 From: hae2@po.CWRU.Edu (Hossam A. El-Saie) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 11:42:21 -0500 Subject: Re: Winter Break Gettin' It on List Status: hossam el-saie sphinx (vrave) hae2@po.cwru.edu 214 N 4th St. Wison, PA. 15025 412.233.5918 (after 12/16) (216.754.2054 up to 12/16) will be doing the week long resolution/alchemy thing **UniversalVibe2 Dec. 18 Wayne, NJ (near NYC) (*50/50 ill be there*) **Resolution Dec. 31/Jan 1 (2?!) Baltimore, MD **Alchemy Jan. 8 1/2 hr N of NYC peace, hossam -- Hossam El-Saie/hae2@po.cwru.edu\/216.754.2054\/Michelson 310B /\ vrave: sphinx 11896 carlton rd /\ /-|-\\ let's getHyper! cleveland, oh 44106 //-|-\ /______\/ **--it's all about the vibe...** \/______\ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 08:48:06 1993 From: "DARSHAN M. JESRANI" Date: 10 Dec 1993 11:26:49 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: American musicians Status: >> So, yeah, we can do it - we've got all the vibe and groove right here >> in our country. All we really owe the Europeans is that beautiful >> trancy sound, along with all of their innovation and contributions to >> the ambient genre. All we really have to do is look back a bit - remember >> all that old hip-hop, R&B, jazz, funk, disco, swing, etc - then we >> can start thinking and assimilating and kickin' some arse. >As an american who works actively WITH fellow european music makers, I >really don't think we should look at things this way -- what ever happened >to the idea of the global village here? it still exists for me. recognize >the individual people as what they are - individuals. there are many >american techno musicians who are brilliant, but undiscovered. the only >real problem here in america with the dance music scene is that we don't >get to hear the great stuff - the *record companies* are more interested in >the same old, same old, ie 'rock and roll'. >excuse my sleep depraved rantings if they're incoherent. Dan, A completely agree with you that American and European musicians should be considered on an individual basis - but don't you think that it would be a little idealistic to say that there is no 'scene' formation, or 'sound' that typifies music making in a particular region? I wasn't trying to be nationalistic, or divide the scene up geographically, but sometimes it helps to kind of super-impose some sort of demographic on our global village just to understand where various styles emerge from, and to determine who/what has contributed to their development. Darshan - dan ======================================================================= _ __ ___ |_| |_) | | 8-Bit Collective spannin' da globe ____/\|_| ~_|_) | |/\____ oulu to jersey! Clonor the Other + edrone + Bleep 'n Blonk (the azid twins) + Paranomia ======================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 11:52:40 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 14:48:49 -0500 Subject: winterbreak addition Status: James Sexton 'chia'-jim jsexton@psych.umass.edu in Amherst, Massachusetts home phone:413-256-0334 office phone (be nice!): 413-545-0252 have car, will rave suture albany dec 11 universal vibe2 (?) nj dec 18 resolution baltimore dec 31 (need tiks! how?) alchemy north-ny jan 8 synergy (?) nyc jan 15 i'd love crash places for universal vibe2, resolution, and synergy... =) chia! jim From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 12:11:20 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:10:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Winter Break Gettin' It on List (fwd) Status: Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Philadelphia(north east) 1.800.374.4434 ext 20051 revolution dc new years alchemy ny january 8th buzz dc ?? fever dc ?? December 19th til january the 23rd how is that :) Jenn-bug From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 13:07:01 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 16:06:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hom2-Last of the week Status: Okee folksies...here's Hom2....I hope everything so far is in here [except those last two letters that came during the couple hours getting this one together.....] So enjoy....and hope this helps you out...as always, please mail me as soon as you know if you can offer a ride or need one etc...[melzie@wam.umd.edu] Keep well, love you, Happy Chanukah!!!! Melzie aka Groooviest Coconut **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 10 Buzz DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Satruday, December 11 7pm Axis Curve [concert] Boston ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neith Love and Frogs!! ncp@csmvax.simons.edu Donato Donutz Allison Thurman Oz Ol Stefan [and friends :) ] STASIKS%AM.mrgate@aspen.uml.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 11 Suture Soul Albany, NY ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- [EMERGENCY RIDE NEEDED FROM SUNY PURCHSA NEAR WHITE PLAINS] Spy [DJ-ing] selway@brick.purchase.edu Nate Nattie [Can Offer Crash Space] goldbn@rpi.edu Julian Wang Jujubee, Jigsaw wangj@rpi.edu Tai Ngyen [Needs a ride from Ithaca] thn1@cornell.edu Ira Akeera [Crash Space] IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.albany.edu Jon Webb Glasses Malone webbj@rpi.edu Anthony [NEEDS RIDE from NYC] 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Buzz [ladies night] DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Energize Richmond, VA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 18 Universal Vibe 2 Wayne, NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Hormell Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu Derek Tiffany [taking a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Melzie's Resolution Pre-party Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut :) melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Digital Druid, Cyberpun cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE - Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Rob Rousseau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] 6ANTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Francis Sibilla Fran [NEEDS RIDE-Philly] fran@chopin.udel.edu Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE-Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NY] 6ANOTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu Rob Roussau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Derek Tiffany [organizing a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Tina Sun (flower) A1TCHAN@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, January 6 Alchemy NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jake Melon Dezign melon@access.netaxs.com From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 14:22:36 1993 From: JSINCLAI@ccmail.sunysb.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 17:09:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Curve concerts after 12/15 Status: I was wondering if anyone knew of Curve dates, venues after 12/15. I can't make the NY show 12/15 'cuz have 2 awful finals the next day :( Much appreciated. john r sinclair From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 14:24:00 1993 From: hlanders@pop.cis.yale.edu (heather landers) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 17:23:51 EST Subject: Re: winter break Status: here goes: heather landers zoie hlanders@pop.cis.yale.edu 159 Corliss Dr (510) 376-9088 Moraga, CA 94556 alchemy (?) NY jan 8 synergy (?) NY jan 15 (one or the other of these probably) something in SF between dec 17 and jan 7 anyone else gonna be in the sf area for break? bye bye-- good luck on finals all!! zoie :) From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 15:35:06 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:34:21 -0800 Subject: ne-raves "big sister" goes west Status: Okay, this is vaguely rave-related in that I'll be raving less in one area and more in another in the very near future: I just got a job offer in California. I accepted the job, which means I am moving out to the Bay Area in about a month. I AM SO HAPPY. Note to Technopolis people: I am trying to work it so I will still be in town for Alchemy. We'll see how it goes. If I can't be here believe me I will leave the coordination in very good hands. I will also leave the daily administration of the list in very good hands, so don't worry. Oh god, I have to start packing . . . and clean my apartment, eek!!!! Laura From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 15:39:23 1993 From: 6ANTHONY_M@spcvxa.spc.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 15:51:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: the fiend's winterbreak..! Status: Joe Dynega Fiend 6anthony_m@spcvxa.spc.edu 44 W. 47th St Bayonne NJ phone:(201-437-8736) or (201-437-5057 day only!!) dont have car, need rides!!! :) but i have crash space in NJ thats very close to NYC.. ten minute ride in the car.. universal vibe nj dec 18 resolution baltimore dec 31 resolution pre-party baltimore??? dec 31 alchemy NY jan 8 btw: isnt goldenboys party a week or so after alchemy? i'll be thnere if i can find a way too... the fiend From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 18:33:35 1993 From: thigpen@ccs.neu.edu Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 21:08:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hearing the Light for free ... Status: OK ... Here's the final list of people who are getting the `See The Light Tour' tape. I need your home / snail mail addresses for some of you. I didn't want to broadcast the mail addresses of the ones I have because of respect for personal privacy. So if I have your home or snail mail address I just listed as recieved. The others please e-mail me your mail address Jennifer Smeddy mail addres: nope Jason Leder(sp?) mail address : yes David L. Bayer mail address : sorta - Newton on 16th. Jeannie Finks - the kitty 8) mail address : nope Hossam A El-Saie mail address : yes (finally paid attention to sig) Brian Knowles mail address : yes (school) Fixin' our mosaic - HANK (HAPPY HOLIDAYS - install Xsnow - it puts) ( a little seasoned ) ( spirit in ya. ) < insert fancy signature here ...> From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 19:18:45 1993 From: Hank Hughes Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 21:08:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Hearing the Light for free ... Status: OK ... Here's the final list of people who are getting the `See The Light Tour' tape. I need your home / snail mail addresses for some of you. I didn't want to broadcast the mail addresses of the ones I have because of respect for personal privacy. So if I have your home or snail mail address I just listed as recieved. The others please e-mail me your mail address Jennifer Smeddy mail addres: nope Jason Leder(sp?) mail address : yes David L. Bayer mail address : sorta - Newton on 16th. Jeannie Finks - the kitty 8) mail address : nope Hossam A El-Saie mail address : yes (finally paid attention to sig) Brian Knowles mail address : yes (school) Fixin' our mosaic - HANK (HAPPY HOLIDAYS - install Xsnow - it puts) ( a little seasoned ) ( spirit in ya. ) < insert fancy signature here ...> From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 19:41:50 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 22:39:29 EST Subject: congrats laura!!! Status: good luck!!!! you better keep in touch with us. please come to alchemy!! it'd be wierd to say goodbye before hello... sprockett From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 22:06:28 1993 From: "David L. Bayer" Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 22:06:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Tickets Status: > resolution baltimore dec 31 (need tiks! how?) Please tell me we don't need tickets to this before hand... If so, I will have to balk on Resolution as I will not be able to get my hands on them before I am outta the states for two weeks... dave P.S. Jetta: I just thought a little more about ride situation and if you can find someone else, take the ride, but if you're bored on New Year's eve and still in boston I'll still probably be going. I just thought a little more about plane being late and the such which could set the whole thing back a couple more hours.... From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 23:26:27 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 02:22:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Winterbreak Status: Here ya go: Dan Philpott 8713 37th Ave. College Park, MD 20740 Pager: 301/701-3202 (please, call this, the phone line is generally tied up) Home Phone: 301/935-4885 Will have crash space and vehicle available while in town. Going to: Universal Vibe 2 - Dec. 18th In Califonia (LA, Bay Area, Lake Tahoe) between the 25th and 7th Alchemy - Jan. 8th Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 10 23:40:13 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 02:37:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Crash Space for Dec/Jan (fwd) Status: Once again, I want to remind folks that mail from non-neraves list members is not posted to the list, but bounced to the admins for review. Only important data will be forwarded. If for some reason, your information is not getting to the list and you are a member, mail ne-raves-owner about it. Dan ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 19:01:43 -0500 (EST) From: donald sparacin To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Cc: hae2@po.cwru.edu Subject: Crash Space for Dec/Jan Donald Sparacin(Kind) sparac50@matrix.newpaltz.edu Suny New Paltz Deyo Hall rm 221B New Paltz,NY 12561 (914)257-5026 Dec 11 Suture Soul-Albany I'm not sure yet whether I'll make it Denny's,hopefully though I'm psyched to meet everyone. Dec 18 Universal Vibe II-Wayne,NJ Dec 31 Resolution-Baltimore (p.s. I don't know anything about the pre-party if someone could please email with info b4 the 18th sparac50@matrix.newpaltz.edu *:) Jan 7 Fusion-New Paltz info(914)463-9350 or e-mail me I'll tell ya all about it. Jan 8 Alchemy-Rockland County Jan 15 Synergy-? Jan 22 Momentum-Lexington,KY (606)281-4193 NERAVERS FREE!!! That's my list of what I'm doing up till January, if anyone knows of midweek parties please email me, I'm fiending for a week's worth of raving. Also to anyone in the NYC area or any whereabouts close to there I can offer plenty of crash space(Just bring a sleeping bag). We'll probably have a pre-party for Alchemy, and drive down there together only 45min away. Remember anyone and everyone is invited over at anytime, especially Cybertribe brothers and sisters. Directions are as follows: FROM POINTS SOUTH: Take I-87(NYS Thruway) to exit 18(?) sign reads "New Paltz-Poughkeepsie) $2.85 in tolls. *After toll booth make a left at the light(RT 299) follow this for a few miles into the village. At the intersection(Mobil Gas Station on right) Make a right onto N.Chestnut st. Follow this until you get to 50 N. Chestnut this is the Fuba House. FROM POINTS NORTH: Take I-87(NYS Thruway) to exit 18-"New Paltz-Poughkeepsie" FOLLOW DIRECTIONS FROM * TOLL-LESS BUT MORE COMPLICATED RT. FROM SOUTH: Take the Taconic Pkwy NORTH to I-84 WEST to the exit for 9W(first exit over Newburgh-Beacon Bridge, I think...) Follow 9W NORTH for about 20 miles. Then make a left onto RT 299, follow 299 for about 15 min into New Paltz. Follow the directions from above. It's a very crazy hilly,curvy, topsy-turvy route but fun anyway(CAUTION: DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DRIVE AFTER A RAVE) P.S. Try to give me a ring before you come up, just so we know you're coming, but surprises are fun too. Donald Sparacin(KInd) (914)257-5026 P.L.U.R. to Everyone From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 00:08:58 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 03:06:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Winterbreak 2 - Oops, I forgot Status: Here ya go: Dan Philpott 8713 37th Ave. College Park, MD 20740 Pager: 301/701-3202 (please, call this, the phone line is generally tied up) Home Phone: 301/935-4885 anarchy@eng.umd.edu Will have crash space and vehicle available while in town. Going to: Universal Vibe 2 - Dec. 18th In Califonia (LA, Bay Area, Lake Tahoe) between the 25th and 7th Alchemy - Jan. 8th Garden of Eden - Whenever it happens (how can I miss something this unique?) Fever - Any time I am in town Buzz - Every once in a while Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 03:49:42 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 06:47:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: last call: Suture Soul... Status: Whew!!! I just got back from the Abyss...we got there at 10:35, we left at 6:00. :( grabbed some macdonalds, and now I think I will try to go to sleep. I figured I'd post one last time, just in case anybody needs to know. (sorry to bother everybody else) I picked up a flyer to Suture Soul in the Abyss...cute, but b&w. The Teasers for Alchemy were cute too...They match my teal/aquamarine pants. *grin* ok...here is who is coming: kyle 1 akeera + 2 or 3 3 nate & friends 3 tony (squiggleman) 1 manish & friends 3 Bruce 1 Marina 1 Sprockett 1 Jim 1 ======== =15 people...plus one or two others might join us.. Directions:::: -------------- From I-87 (The Northway): From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: From I-90: From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: I-90 West: Take it to exit 2 (SUNY albany or University at Albany) This will bring you to a light. Make a left at the light onto FULLER ROAD. Take FULLER ROAD to the End. Then you can only go left or right. make a RIGHT onto WESTERN AVE. Denny's is about 10,000 feet up the street on the left. You can't miss it. If you go under the overpass you know you went to far. From I-287 (The Thruway): From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: Take exit 24 to toll both...after toll both stay in left lane. get off EXIT 2, which is (SUNY Albany or University at Albany) at light, make right onto WASHINGTON AVENUE. Make FIRST left onto FULLER ROAD. Go down fuller road to end. make right onto WESTERN AVENUE. Denny's is 10,000 feet up street on left. You can't miss it. I'd put a burning 'ne-rave' sign up in front of the Denny's, but I don't think that the management would appreciate that. *evil grin* -Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 05:55:36 1993 From: JOWLEY@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 08:57 EST Subject: winter break Status: Well is anyone going to be anywhere in the Midwest? I will probably go to almost everything in the Chicago/Milwaukee area I am not yet sure what all is going on but there is a big New Year's Rave in Milwaukee. I never remember the names... so.... jess Jessica Owley jowley@lucy.wellesley.edu 2849 n50th St. Milwaukee, WI 53210-1654 (414)445-4599 crash space most likely available catch ya later jess From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 09:56:57 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 12:55:29 -0500 Subject: jim/winterbreak/rides Status: to clear some confusion "have car, will rave" meant i have a car, and will give rides to raves :) :) (if i'm going, you are near/on way/ etc.) chia!jim From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 11:03:52 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 14:03:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: That reminds me.... Status: Since I'm the one holding the pre-thingamajig and I live near enough to Modern Music, if there's anyone that's worried about having to pay the 25 instead of the 20 for Resolution tickets and wants me to buy a ticket for them ahead of time, just mail me back and we'll arrange it.... Melzie aka I dunno....give me one From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 11:42:29 1993 From: selway@brick.purchase.edu (John Selway ) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 14:39:36 EST Subject: Spy is in for it... Status: if he doesn't find a ride fast! I know someone must be going near my area on the way to Albany - 287 and 684 are right by Purchase. No one here wants to make the journey up there. I've got to get there somehow - I haven't spun in a while, and I really want to, and I also need the money (going to England!!!) Please email or call 914 251 7107 if you can do it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ thanks =) Spy From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 11:49:08 1993 From: itheo@aol.com Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 14:48:13 EST Subject: Venus Status: ..............on december 18, 1993 network 10 & inhouse productions ..............bring you to the second in the skylab series........ ---VENUS--- with DJ's: EFX (assailant) Chicago Hyperactive Chicago Jethro X milwaukee Jedidiah the Messiah milwaukee (plus a special guest dj to be announced) .............be warned. this warehouse gathering will be like no other appelton has experienced. 414.777.3982 414.730.1519 From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 12:26:58 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 15:26:40 -0500 Subject: SUTURE Q? Status: how do we get to SUTURE from Denny's ? (in case i'm a little late.. :) chia!jim From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 13:39:42 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 16:39:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: THE METHOD TO THE WINTERBREAK MADNESS Status: hi all... i will be returning home to southern new jersey for ye 'ol xmas break. i'm a hop skip and a jump (well 20 mins) so if anyone needs crach space/wants to hang out/wants someone to bitch to, i should be availible....wait.....i messed up...(see above) im 20 min from philly....duh! :P anyway...i will be going to: (probably) -universal vibe (maybe) -resolution pre and real parties -alchemy -the trocadero (heeheheeheeehahahaha) :) mi casa es su casa! just make sure you call first...(609)863-0356 i should be on line, so you can email me too.. -jason/method one/xmas breakboy/ensoniq boom >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 14:41:54 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 17:40:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: winter break contact Status: Ok, my winter break information: Michael Minnich, 703-820-4565, in the DC area Dec 15th - Jan 13th or so. Has crash space available for a couple people, although it's already accounted for for Resolution. Will be attending: * Universal Vibe 2 * Resolution * Alchemy probably a Buzz or two, too... --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From bbehlen Sat Dec 11 15:58:32 1993 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 15:58:26 PST Subject: (more forwards from accidental bounces) Status: I'm working the kinks out of this system... here are 4 posts that bounced, but they won't bounce anymore. If you get mail at a different account than you send mail from, please let me know. Brian --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From robcamp@well.sf.ca.us Fri Dec 10 08:10:45 1993 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1993 08:10:44 -0800 From: Robert Campanell To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: 611 Records Does anyone know the phone number to 611 records in Philly? Thankss, - Rob --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >Date: Fri, 10 Dec 93 16:28:36 AST From: OLIVER N To: Subject: whole buncha shit Hi all, first things first...Taylor, expect my mailorder before Xmas. i hope you'll put something nice like that it's a gift on the coustoms note. Ho ho ho. People, who cares where the music is from as long as it makes you happy? Only idiots get involved in arguments surrounding whichis better, usa or europe. it's like arguing who is better, the hulk or superman. Ultimately, it doesn't mean a thing. yes, americans form 80% of the record consuming public world wide and i think that has an impact on the kinds of music made in other countries if they want to become world famous (i.e. to sell to u.s. consumers) but still...we're in the underground aren't we? we're not supposed to care about music's point of origin. Also, i'd like to talk about the way my first rave felt.... Crusade. Portland, Me. Nov. of 92. No stages, no multi-million watt sound systems, no intellabeams, no superstars (unless you count Dale Charles) sorry dale... just pure 100% energy and goodtimes. maybe 500 people max. met all kinds of groovy yankees. Changed my attitude about americans literally overnight. People were there from as far as Baltimore (peace to the guy i met in the kiddy pool filled with chip foam) and a bunch of canucks. (only one bathroom, designated the ladies room, all guys doinf a no.1 had to go outside. that was baaaad!) i loved it! Best time i'd had in all my twenty two years. What happened? i hate the stages for the dj's that's a bunch of superstar bullshit. i hate the hype! it's gotta have dj's the kids know or they won't go. Ask yourself, you know you've done it too. i hate the rock concert feeling i get now. No one wants to meet you now. they'd all rather stand around pretending to enjoy themselves than try something really adventurous. i hate the feeling that i get now at raves of more than 300 people. i tried putting them on in my own hometown in eastern canada where we don't even have a decent dance club except maybe for the gay club, and you know how hard it can be to your friends to go there. Our scene was okay for awhile. We had a techno nigh t at a local club, until they let it go in oct 92. Then the raves my fri ends and i put on were all there was. But now, thekids won't go. They'd all rather go to the states to go to the primary parties or to the Sunrise gang raves. Better dj's, better lights, better everything is what they tell me. i had 220 at my first rave, now i'm lucky to draw 75 people. Of course i can't afford intellabeams (even if they were available to rent around here) and i can't afford to fly in 333 or Tintin who i both love. i can't offer any of that. i can offer people true not-for-profit danceparties with lots of friendly locals, lights that do the job, lots of good sound, and me and some other half-decent dj's from the area. Often, i don't care how well they mix, rather their cooperative spirit, joie de vivre, and an itching to make people dance. (i usually scope their collections too tho.) Our normal space is about 500 sqfeet and i don't ever advertise it to be anything other than it will be: an all night dance party. Here are the dj's, here's where it is Nothing else. one of the things i liked most about Crusade was that i didn't know who was spinning. Sometimes i wanted to know but i realise now that it wouldn't have heightened the experience at all and never has i don't dance harder for some dj's and not for others.(or stop dancing altogether as i've seen some people do.) Often i don't want even want to find out who is spinning until after they've blown me away anyway. Now, we put them on pedestals (or a stage, call it what you will) and the suc cess or failure of you rave depends on your dj lineup and how many people come as aresult. Fuck That! i may rule or suck on the tables, but i don't care. i still feel something when i spin. i like the challenge of getting a room on the floor and keeping them there as long as i can. Sven Vath is right when you need a whole night spinning to bring out a vibe. How can i experience what any dj wants me to if s/he's only got an hour to do it?The music they spin, and not the spinner, is what keeps me on the floor. the dj may lead me to water, but i, and only i, decide whether or not i will drink. No light system, no megawatt soundsystem, no smart drink, no multi-coloured flyer and no lineup as long as your arm can change that. Is the vibe good? Am i feeling any positive energy here?Are the people my friends even tho we've never met? If the answer is no, then, to me, it's not a rave. A rave is by definition a place where all those things exist in abundanc e. Maybe promoters just lost sight of this when the rave scene grew. i'd like my own to be bigger too, but not so big i lose track of why i started in the first place. House, tekno, trance, h/c, rave... who cares? it's all dance music, and we like dancing right? we like dancing together right?let's find some of that spirit again. the real stuff. ahhh, that is what i like. Especially, here at home. When i got a new job dj'ing in the new local gay club, everyone said to me, pressure the owner to reinstate the techno night, we miss it so much since the other club let you go.Where are they now? i dj to no one every week. it's so bad, the boss is thinking of closing on that night altogether.What can i do. We had up to fifty (that's quite a good crowd in 19plus enviornmen t for this kind of music up here) the first couple of weeks so it's advertising. the drinks were extra cheap so it wasn't that. i even warned the boss that the crowd that would come weren't big alcohol drinkers. What can i do? anyone out there have any suggestions? People around me say techno is dying off. Am i dreaming when when i say no it isn't? Is anyone else in a similar situation as me? It's gotten to the point that i wonder if i should bother to put on raves anymore. i lost 200 bucks last two raves i did. what do i do? cheers, dj nonsense. --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From soundz@MIT.EDU Fri Dec 10 14:42:33 1993 To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: educating the mit staff This weekend, I will be spinning for a crowd that probably hasn't even heard of L.A Style: the mit staff and grad students. Somehow I got to dj at the mit media lab party. Anyway, I just thought I'd tell you what I'm gonna do: I'm gonna cram some hard-ass trance up their troats and if they don't like it, I'll turn up the volume. There's probably only 4 people, including myself, who will know what the hell I'm playing. I consider this an education. It may not be pleasant, but you've gotta learn what you gotta learn. JimmY |-|/\T (condom/boston) Here's some sentiments of one of the organizers (who is into trance): ------- Forwarded Message James (an IC urop) and myself will be coordinating music for the winterfest. A friend of James' is a DJ and will also be helping us out. We were planning on playing a wide selection of the latest and best of imported british and european trance and techno. Landmark artists include Aphex Twin, The Orb, System 7, The Grid, Sven Vath, Sabres of Paradise, The KLF. Besides a good sampling of post new wave alternative classics, 4AD material, and some industrial, this is the kind of musical samplings we can offer(bands in this category may include New Order, The Cure, the The, St. Etienne, standard WFNX stuff). We don't own much or any top 40, classic rock, grunge, rap, reggae, big band, country and western, world, AOR, folk etc, and to be perfectly honest, we weren't planning on playing much or any. BUT... to be fair, if there is stuff you want or just have to hear, please provide me with it on cassette and CD and we will play some, but not everything given to us, nor will we be responsible for picking up or returning music from students, faculty, or staff. If you want to hear it, you give it to us and you get it back. I must be honest, the majority of the music we plan to play will be on the trance/techno side. If there are problems with what we wish to play or if you would prefer someone to play music for a more general audience, my partner and I will happily step aside. ------- End of Forwarded Message --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From rquazi@ic.sunysb.edu Fri Dec 10 23:52:55 1993 Subject: CONGRATULATIONS TO LAURA! To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU (North-East Cybertribe), sfraves@techno.Stanford.EDU (SF Raves Cybertribe) Laura! Big big *HUGS* and congrats on your new job offer, and what better place to move to :) We will all miss you here on the NE, thanks for being a great person and a great sister :) Though you'll be out of sight, we know you won't be out of touch .. Thank the Universe for the NET!! Love ya, have a great great new year and hope i get to say bye to you before you leave! :) Peace, O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 17:53:45 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 20:30:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Interesting note one BUZZ Status: On Sat, 11 Dec 1993, John Sweeney wrote: > "We have employed new friendly & courteous Security Guards hand picked by > BUZZ. Also due to new D.C. law you must have adequate I.D. at the door, > no exception made." > So it looks like they realizaed their old guards were dicks or something. =) You know, I am not so sure about this. Here is the situation from what I understand it. First, they found that some of the guards were hassling the kids and snatching the money from people with drugs, then turning them out. Hmm, not a good thing for this scene, IMHO. So what did they do? They got new guards. Right? Well, yes and no. I was talking to someone who works for Eastside Club (and works there on Buzz nights sometimes). From what she said, alot of the guards are the same, they just have orders not do what they were doing before. However, from third hand sources, I understand they have removed some of the guards who were doing the harrasement. Just to keep you informed folks.. So next time you hear that they have new guards, take it with a grain of salt. They have some new guards, not a whole new staff. Dan Ps. As followup to my article and to help with Generation, I was fliering at Buzz the other day. I asked people whether I could drop fliers off at some spot. The staff gave a courteous nod and said 'of course'. So I drop off some fliers. I noticed that they were gone a little while later. I figure that since I handed a flier to nearly everyone in that club, not alot of people were picking them up. So I drop off another small stack, sit back and watch. Some big honcho looking dude walks by, grabs them, tosses them into the trash. I drop off some more, see him do it again. I drop off some more, then stand next to them to ask him why he is doing it when he tries it again. Well, they stayed longer that time, as he stands there eyeing them and me sitting next to them. The bartender lady walks by, the one who told me it was okay to leave them there, and she dumps them. I stop her and ask her why she did that, after telling me I could leave them there. She says she was told to kill fliers unless specifically told not to. This pisses me off. I talked to both Scott Henry and Lieven about this, and they both said that fliering is totally kosher at their events, so long as they don't clash with their own events. I know for a fact that Scott and Lieven weren't throwing anything the night of Generation (but they were spinning at other events), so there was no clash of scheduling on events. I told the bartender that I had talked to them and that they said fliering was okay at the club, but I have no great hope that will change anything. Personally, I see this as being VERY two faced on the part of promoters, first saying it is okay, and then having staff do the exact opposite (whether intentional or unintentional). Geez, and I thought the scene was improving, or that we had truelly honest and benevolent big time promoters here in DC. Personally, I wonder if MUCH too much power has been centered on a few elites among the rave community. There is almost no way that you can prevent a clash of timing between promoters who are also DJs if they are either spinning at other events or throwing events themselves every weekend. But they are running the main hubs for information transfer, the clubs and raves. So what happens? Fliering becomes, by default, impossible at a great number of events. I mean, what if Scott Henry were spinning at an event every Friday and Saturday for a month. Would this mean that no fliering for that month would be possible at either Buzz or Fever? That would kill any emerging promoter immediately, because the information would NEVER be made available to the people who would be going to these events. A scary scenario under any circumstances, but one that may be all too frighteningly real. Pss. I am really starting to wonder about the people behind and running Buzz, a definate power bloc of major proportions in the DC area. A heady brew under any circumstances. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From bbehlen Sat Dec 11 19:21:12 1993 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 19:21:06 PST Subject: fwd Status: --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 18:22:38 1993 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA08194; Sat, 11 Dec 93 18:22:35 PST Date: Sat, 11 Dec 93 18:22:35 PST Message-Id: <9312120222.AA08194@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [Robert Campanell ] >From robcamp@well.sf.ca.us Sat Dec 11 18:22:27 1993 Received: from well.sf.ca.us by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA08188; Sat, 11 Dec 93 18:22:27 PST Received: from localhost (robcamp@localhost) by well.sf.ca.us (8.6.5.Beta2/8.6.5.Beta1) id SAA07153 for ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu; Sat, 11 Dec 1993 18:22:26 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 18:22:26 -0800 From: Robert Campanell Message-Id: <199312120222.SAA07153@well.sf.ca.us> To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: winter break Rob Campanell will be in the Pittsburgh area from Dec. 17-Jan 1. Without net connection during that time. Will be attending Alchemy Jan 8. Setting up my virtual environments. --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 11 21:43:08 1993 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1993 21:35:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Interesting note one BUZZ Status: i think something smells funny about buzz!!!! i hope that you guys do some more asking...and hopefully educating.... on another note did anyone notice that ambient is miss spelled in the killer looking resolustion flyer...it isn't spelled with an "a" it should be spelled with an "e" *and yes this is not a drug reference just a webster reference* partyon...susie (; p.s. miss spelled is misspelled...heheheheh From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 03:38:13 1993 From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (Sea of Sin) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 03:39:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: winter holiday Status: Cindy Kawakami SFRaves Airport Shuttle Girl Hostess Sea of Sin Snoopie:) Call me or email me first if you are coming to SF (San Francisco) actually just email me, you might crash vrave if you call me:) All events are in SF December 17 Bliss (maybe) 18 The Gathering (for sure) 28 FMRFMRFMRFMR!!:) 31 Basics or Spundae/Wicked January 1 Dawn of 1994 (afterparty) some where in the first week, COME UNITY Thursdays- Spicelab, Your Sister's House (depends on the work day and how I feel----*oh hush andrew!*) I have no idea if I will be going away on vacation. You never know when I will take an impulsive trip out somewhere---*and dont say cinci, andrew* -- ________________________________s_e_a_o_f_s_i_n________________________________ kawakami@alm.admin.usfca.edu kawakami@noc.usfca.edu kawaci00@dons.ac.usfca.edu cin@coreys.berkeley.edu kawakami@cybernet.cse.fau.edu seaofsin@well.sf.ca.us From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 06:01:47 1993 From: kawakami@noc.usfca.edu (Sea of Sin) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 06:03:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: greetings! Status: It's the Holiday Season.. I hope you are/did well on your finals. I am sending out the greetings early/late because there are people leaving for their vacation already. 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Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 11:09:43 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 13:59:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Interesting note one BUZZ Status: On Sun, 12 Dec 1993, Robert Campanell wrote: > It's not that simple. Scott Henry and Lieven are not the responsible for > the management of the club. They are the promoters and the promoter's are > responsible for hiring the entertainment and getting people to come to the > club...and that's it. If they cannot get people to come to the club, then > they are fired by the club management. They have no say in the operations > of the club. That is not the impression I have had in my talks with them. From my understanding they rent the club and its services and run everything from the top down (with them as the managerial top), they are not hired as mid level management in charge of certain functions (ie: solely entertainment procurement or promotions) by the club. So from my understanding, they are in charge of everything which occurs at the club that night. Dan Note: This is only from my talks with them regarding my article for Slurp!. I have yet to ask them directly how the management situation is handled, but I do remember distinct references to them having rented the clubs for these parties (Paradox for Fever and Eastside Club for Buzz). I will post more as I know it, because I definately plan on talking to them about this situation. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 11:43:02 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 14:42:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Where I'll be.. Status: Alan M. Parry Flu'id (floo'-) brit@chopin.udel.edu 45 West Belmont Dr, Hockessin, DE. (302.234.9596) Phone (302.837.6343) Voice Mail Resolution December 31st, Baltimore Alchemy January 6th, north of NYC I'll be workin at both of the above so I shouldnt be too hard to find :) _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 13:04:39 1993 From: gsc1@Lehigh.EDU (geoffE) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 15:39:39 EST Subject: RE:Winter Break Status: Hey y'all, Going home soon myself. If anyone needs to get into contact with me about anything over winter break: geoffE Colon 1320 Stafore Dr. Bethlehem, Pa. 18015 You can leave messages at 215.758.9969(I check them daily). Anyone ordering a tape, send the money to the above address up until Jan. 16, then send it to: geoffE 12 W. 4th St. Bethlehem, Pa. 18015 Just a little hint, Timewarp II is February 11. Already confirmed is Joey Beltram, Scott Henry, Mars and Trace. There's a third room too with ambient music. More details when I get back in January. Happy New Year!!!! Peace Out!!!! geoffE ---Fear not the DARK, fear thyself--- From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 14:23:42 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 93 17:22:02 EST Subject: Your Inner Critic Status: Here is an excerpt from a hip article "Your Inner Critic" by Robin Munson that I wanted to share: "xLet us say that a child of three draws a picture of a flower and brings it home to her mothe r. The mother may, with every good intention, try to give her child "constructive criticism" . She may say, "That's nice dear, but real flowers do not have wings." She has caught the child in her most vulnerable moment, a moment of self-expression and love, and unwittingly given her child the message that her art, her experience, her gift, her love, and ultimately, her self are less than adequate. Over time, the child may not need her mother to say it anymore. The child may say these things to herself. Sadly, she will stop drawing flowers with wings on them, which was a pure expression of her spirit and imagination. Over time, she may lose the desire to draw altogether, and this is tragic. Any thought/feeling which is submerged into the unconscious paradoxically becomes stronger rather than weaker. The unconscious acts as a fertile breeding ground for all kinds of ideas, positive and negative. Perhaps one of the reasons this is so is that those thoughts and ideas which are buried deep below the conscious level can not be examined, judged, confronted, or challenged. Unopposed they gather strength and momentum. But they can not become more or less true by virtue of their influence." Pax Vobis! Johnny T johnnyt123@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 16:08:05 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 19:05:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Xmasmeet/SutureSoul/Breakinfo Status: Hello.... Well, Another night spent up, but well worth it. Suture Soul was great. Trying to remember back, I am pretty sure that Vernal Equinox _was_ better, but I had a really good time at Suture Soul to. Well, leaving the place at 6:45 am, with my jacket in Squiggle man's car, and it's around -40 out with the windchill wasn't fun, but everything else was. My only worry last night was I had no place to do my drugs...but luckily others with me found a good place. Hardcore-Hardcore-Hardcore!! They _did_ play some really amazing house, which is my favorite, but I had the stupidity to take an 'effidac', one of those 24 hour cold medicines, which, combined with the illegal substances, made me so tired I couldn't move very much by the time the house came on. :( All in all, however, I had an extremely exciting and fun weekend, and I can't wait until Alchemy... I am losing my net access on _December 22_, so if no plans have been made for meeting in NYC over christmas by this time, somebody please contact me with info:: Ira Miller: (914) 356-4569 from 12/23-1/21 Hope to see lot's of you at Alchemy..... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 12 18:02:25 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1993 21:02:05 -0500 Subject: suture review Status: The new DJ tacked onto the end (Spy couldn't make it i guess) was actually pretty good. I was a lump on the edge of the dance floor for awhile, but a some of his stuff actually revived my sorry self into dancing for a bit longer. On a personal note, god was i so incredibly tired!!!!!! I had a huge stress fest stats exam that afternoon (yes on saturday, i love grad school :P ) It took all of my knowledge of natural (and unnatural ;) methods of regaining energy to make it there. Once i was there, the music did the rest =) =) =) I was brain-dead and lacking almost all creativity, but it just felt so heavenly to be moving and moving and moving. a real fest for the body and soul.The site was kinda scary (now do skinheads *really* use that place during the week????) it looked like a country-western bar, and as many commented, (but hey! not me ;) there was no real chill-out area/place to do your thing. But i just loved the dark gloomy stage. Since i felt kinda mind-drained, it was nice to retreat into the dark corners and just move as i cared to :) :) Thanks to all in SUTURE SOUL for another occaion of merciful release!!!!!!!! (sorry occaion = occasion). BTW for all of those promoters out there, coat checks are a grat idea when its snowing out :) not that anything got stolen or anything, but it would be nice not to have to drop your stuff in a pile and have that nagging worry that.... BTW2:Netravers Sorry i wasn't terribly talkative at Dennies nut as mentioned above, i was brain-damaged + i had to drive thru some irritating weather + my car was full of people i had just met. (they were wonderful, but it is still always stressful for me to drive thru a mild snow storm and "get to know someone". Hope to talk to everyone in more detail later. (who was that great guy in the tan cap who kept wandering by? i never caught your name...) "Terrible Driving Conditions" my ass... if you didn't come because of the weather, well sorry :) :) :) jim From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 09:13:32 1993 From: Tikki Date: 13-DEC-1993 12:00:00.22 Subject: breakbeat Cd's? Status: howdy all. as a real strapped ($$$) dj, I get mostly free stuff from my station. well, I am noticing a lack of breakbeat coming in (but we get ambient pretty easily - go figure) anyway, I decided I would invest some of my own money - for my collection, so does anyone have good recommendations for breakbeat comps that have come out ? thanks... tasha (hades) ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 10:15:05 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:12:36 EST Subject: SUTURE REVIEW Status: well, marina and Bruce and I headed out of boston around 6:00 and ended up getting the brunt of the storm right in out path...oh well, 40mph for one hour isn't too bad...except that the guys all met at denny's in albany at 8:00 and we'd be late. anyway, we made it to pick up nate and jigsaw by 9:30 and then to denny's by 10:00...wow, tons of people met up there...Akeera, Manish, Jim, and all their friends had waited for us...thank god...then off to the space...10 miles later we pulled in, greeted by a sign that simply said "RAVE". great I thought.. well, the party filed past me at the door, all getting in for $10.00 ( ;) ) (found out later that there weren't enough u's for "suture soul" to be written on the sign) well, the space was a place called saratoga winners...a hardcore live band arena..it was cool--PHunky lights!!!!!! had a nice mirror ball that an intell- ibeam (?) would occasionally bouce off of... we got there as medicine man was spinning some fast breaks, but nobody was dancing (harder, harder, faster, faster...for too long) apparently no other dj's had shown cuz of the weather..until....Mr. Kleen came on...then Mr. Trash then Jack Master Flash..then i lost count.... anyway, Happy finally showed up by 5:00 with some get down funky rhythms. wierd night...so many people were just plain exhausted....dunno why...just were well, the highlight of the night came at 5:30, when Happy played 3 acid jazz trax (ones that i love too) wow...there were some people *REALLY* dancing their behinds off!!! we topped off with i think about 850 people...the weather kept about 4 dj's and 200 people from showing...c'est la vie. well, i had an amazing time...it was so nice to go with a group!! manish, akeera, jim---sorry i didn't talk to you much...i was stressing over what time I would spin (shane had to deal with 4 dj's not coming...) anyway, Ill see you guys at alchemy, RIGHT!!!!! aroung 7:30 they started cutting the lights...to an entire black out...then someone pulled out their flashlight and made a makeshift strobe....way cool ;) the afterhours were pretty dead...not much happened except for stingray's amazing set....wow did he remix old house/soul/motown stuff...wow got back to boston by 3 sunday...well worth going. as jim said, if you didn't go cuz of the weather you missed out..the roads were NOT that bad. c u l8r sprock From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 10:18:43 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:15:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: breakbeat Cd's? Status: On 13 Dec 1993, Tikki wrote: > howdy all. as a real strapped ($$$) dj, I get mostly free stuff from > my station. well, I am noticing a lack of breakbeat coming in (but we get > ambient > pretty easily - go figure) > anyway, I decided I would invest some of my own money - for my collection, so > does anyone have good recommendations for breakbeat comps that have come out ? > thanks... > tasha (hades) > ================================================================================ > tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu > zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! > ================================================================================ Well here are two that are excellent. Speed Limit 140+ III - The Joint (It's a joint CD between Moving Shadow and Suburban Base) Further Adventures into Jungle Tekno - Happiness and Darkness - on Jumpin and Pumpin Records. |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 10:26:46 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 13:21:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE:Winter Break Status: On Sun, 12 Dec 1993, geoffE wrote: > Hey y'all, > Going home soon myself. If anyone needs to get into contact with me about > anything over winter break: geoffE Colon > 1320 Stafore Dr. > Bethlehem, Pa. 18015 > You can leave messages at 215.758.9969(I check them daily). > Anyone ordering a tape, send the money to the above address up until Jan. > 16, then send it to: geoffE > 12 W. 4th St. > Bethlehem, Pa. 18015 GeoffE, just curious, how goes the plans for New Years Eve. I have yet to see a peep on the net or anywhere else about The Freight Yard on New Years. It seems everyone is either going to Resolution, New York, or that Pleasureforce event in Toronto. Are you guys still figuring on 400 people? I'd hate to see you take a loss, especially if it meant me not being able to get gas and toll money back to Pittsburgh. Anyway, update me. > Just a little hint, Timewarp II is February 11. Already confirmed is > Joey Beltram, Scott Henry, Mars and Trace. There's a third room too with > ambient music. More details when I get back in January. Happy New Year!!!! What are the chances of me hooking up with this?? > Peace Out!!!! > > geoffE > ---Fear not the DARK, fear thyself--- Peace in the East |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 10:47:35 1993 From: IO20903@MAINE.maine.EDU (Citizen Kane) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 13:45:01 EST Subject: Neptune Status: another great tiem had by all up here at u maine orono. about 120 people in a smallish house. 3 rooms, one with videos they ended up wa tching the shining?!?!?, one with trance and one with the rest. Fun was had by all, including me - the crowd was great, and the word is out - next semi we are in a couple of clubs near by! Next ride will be in january sometime. I'll keep you posted. /=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\ Citizen Kane - Make the vibe known throughout the land IO20903@Maine.Maine.EDU The U of Maine U.S.A. If your fitness is not maximized, will you survive? \=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/=\=/ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 15:05:56 1993 From: mad@acs.bu.edu (Melanie Dale) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 18:02:48 EST Subject: need information Status: hello, I have never posted, but I need some information from anyone who can provide it. I am going to be leaving for London when the new semester begins. I would like some info about clubs/raves or anything that you would like to send me. I am nervous about going where I have no friends and no connections. Please help!!!!!! thanks, melanie (mad) From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 15:14:40 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 18:14:10 EST Subject: email change (again) Status: Greetingz, please follow me as I play musical chairs with my account. My old email address: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu was changed to: kia@pegasus.rutgers.edu and is being deleted in 4 days. My new email address (and this should last until May at least) is kia@eden.rutgers.edu Please make a note of it. This is a recording. We now return you to your regularly scheduled broadcast. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 16:14:14 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 19:11:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Directions to A-L-C-H-E-M-Y Status: Directions to Alchemy ::::::::::::: ===================== From South: From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: From New York City: From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: From NORTH: From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: I ____THINK____ I covered all areas. If anybody is coming from some other highway, please tell me and I will add directions. btw-I am planning on making my own, personalized 'ALCHEMY' T-shirt at my local flea market. I'm going to put 'A-L-C-H-E-M-Y' and a cool picture on the front, and the name again, and the date on the back....maybe I'll have the only 'alchemy' shirt in the world....wow. :) -Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 17:05:59 1993 From: gsc1@Lehigh.EDU (geoffE) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:03:07 EST Subject: NEW YEAR's EVE MAYHEM Status: Anyone going to Ultraworld that wants to start the night out early: Freight Yard, Allentown, Pa. will be hosting a party of our own, then we're all loading up to unite with our brothers and sisters down south in Baltimore. Anyhow, this is what's up: "A VIBE OF A DIFFERENT SORT" Special live PA by 1.8.7.(Joe NE raves project. BREAX FOR YER FACE) DJ's geoffE, Miko and special guest Phaze 1 from Del-aware. Anyone who needs directions reply via e-mail or call 215.433.0503 HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 17:06:01 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:08:24 -0500 Subject: Resolution crash space? Status: Damn, it seems my friend, who I would've crashed with if I was gonna go to Resolution, won't be home that weekend and because I was expecting to crash at his place I've totally ignored anyone's messages about available crash space blah blah blah so if anyone can offer crash space for Resolution, can they email to me? happy holidays ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 17:26:17 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 17:25:43 -0800 Subject: Re: Directions to A-L-C-H-E-M-Y Status: I really hate to correct Akeera after he so generously posted directions to Alchemy, but there are easier ways to get there than he said (well, they seem easier to me). >From South and West: Take I-95 / New Jersey Turnpike north OR I-80 east to the George Washington Bridge. Stay in the LOCAL lanes as you approach the bridge. Exit at Exit 72, following the signs for the Palisades Parkway. Go through a few lights, the entrance to the Palisades Parkway is a fork off to your right. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW **. >From New York City: Take George Washington Bridge to the Palisades Parkway North. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW **. >From North: Take the New York State Thruway south to the Palisades Parkway North (this is right before the Tappanzee Bridge). FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW **. >From Hartford/Boston: Take 84 to 684 in New York State, then take 684 to 87/287 to head over the Tappanzee Bridge. Exit shortly after crossing the bridge for the Palisades Parkway North. FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW **. ** FROM THE PALISADES PARKWAY: + Head North to exith 11, New City / New Hempstead. + At the bottom of the ramp go left. + At the very next light go LEFT. + Count 5 lights. At the 5th light make a left, and an immediate left into the parking lot. You know you are in the right place because when you get to the 4th light you will see a red and white sign on the left that says "RAGE." You will also see a white building that looks like a movie theater. This is the place. Laura From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 17:47:55 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1993 20:47:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: NEW YEAR's EVE MAYHEM Status: On Mon, 13 Dec 1993, geoffE wrote: > Anyone going to Ultraworld that wants to start the night out early: > > Freight Yard, Allentown, Pa. will be hosting a party of our own, then we're > all loading up to unite with our brothers and sisters down south in Baltimore. > Anyhow, this is what's up: "A VIBE OF A DIFFERENT SORT" I'd hate to have conflicting pre-parties... I guess I can still put the micro together if enough would like to come... Please let me know early though..... Mel Sara From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 19:14:35 1993 From: itheo@aol.com Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 22:13:39 EST Subject: Venus Status: Hey everyone! Just writing to let you know that I'm going to Venus this weekend, and if anyone else is going, I want to meet up with them. I'll have a pacifier earring, brown corduroy pants, and converse. Oh yeah, a bell too. Write if you'll be there. Peace. -Theo- ;-> From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 19:56:27 1993 From: buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 22:55:58 -0500 Subject: Re: Directions to A-L-C-H-E-M-Y Status: This might seem like a stupid ?....but when is ALCHEMY.....is it this weekend!  NED From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 19:57:11 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 22:56:59 EST Subject: Upcoming BOoM Status: yo... i'm awaiting january b-day people's b-days... please include: net name b-day (mo/da/yr) e-mail address (That will be valid when your b-day is here...) real name (optional) please send this to me by December 19, 1993. anything sent to me after that date will NOT be included in january's birthday-o-matic. btw, the birthday-o-matic is a monthly list of b-days for that month of people on ne/v-raves... :) wfs jetta. From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 13 21:51:22 1993 From: grant@world.std.com (Grant D McHerron) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 00:51:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Bye From Oz ( sorta :) Status: Hey Gang, Well, I'm flat out with the new project here and haven't been on for a week or so - gee - 500+ messages - nice to be loved :) I'm gonna have to temporarily un-sub to NE-Raves while I'm out here 'cos I'm so busy working and partying that I haven't got a chance to log in and chat, etc. So, until February, march, April, whenever I get back ( yes, it's looking like I'll be here for some time :) I'll post the odd review of the Sydney scene but won't be monitoring the general chats. Take care, have a great Christmas and a cool New Year - I intend to recharge my batteries over Christmas on the beach and then spend most of New Years out of my skulls for at least two days. The scene over here is wild and a combination of everything - was at a rave full of Greatful Dead Ravers ( sorta 60's hippies with lots of acid but 90's music - wild :) and have a stack of invites to all sorts of parties here ( getting to know the local DJ's and such - it's great :)... The revivalist movement is full swing here with 60's, 70's and 80's revivals running hot ( the latter is cool 'cos "Coke is it" once again - heeeee :) and this Saturday is the L'Otel Christmas Party ( a "hip" cafe around the corner from me where a few of us meet on an all too regular basis :)... The sun, the styles and the music are all full on over here. I'm having a ball and can't keep up with the partying some days ( like, no sleep between Saturday morning and Sunday night / Monday morning as you go from club to cafe to rave to club to recovery to friends to cafe to pub etc etc. My pool & snooker games are improving madly with all the games I'm getting in dyuring the week :) Let's here it for those Vitamin B fizzy things :) Have fun and I'll be back, I just don't know when the office over here will let me go ( the US Office doesn't know I'm going to be kept into March / April yet - they'll no doubt kick up a stink :)... Grant From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 03:41:54 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 06:40:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: NEW YEAR's EVE MAYHEM Status: Melzie sayz, > I'd hate to have conflicting pre-parties... > > I guess I can still put the micro together if enough would like to come... > Please let me know early though..... I don't think a pre-party in Allentown, PA and one in Baltimore, MD really count as conflicting. We'd all still love it if you hosted the more localized pre-party, Melzie... --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 03:52:14 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 06:51:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: wIntEr brEAk gEttiN' it oN liSt ( From XtoFer ) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 17:53:48 EST From: XtoFer To: dcraves@american.edu, mw-raves@engin.umich.edu, ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU, seraves@american.edu Subject: wIntEr brEAk gEttiN' it oN liSt Hey Kids!! Well here it is FINALLY. I played a little too hard this weekend. But FEVER was awesome. I wish you all could have been there. Actually, I wish you all could have been where I was that night :) (Those of you who saw me there know what I'm talking about!) Thank you for cooperating on the form... it helped a lot... and for those of you who didn't... SHAME!! You let those little Gremlins talk to you again :) Enough already... with out further... BS here it is... ____________-------------___ _ __ - - ____ --- ___________________ ___----- the 1 9 9 3 / 9 4 wIntEr brEAk gEttiN' it oN liSt ============================================================================ c a l i f o r n i a U S A Cindy Kawakami SFRaves Airport Shuttle Girl Hostess Sea of Sin Snoopie:) Call me or email me first if you are coming to SF (San Francisco) actually just email me, you might crash vrave if you call me:) Bliss (maybe) 'frisco 17 december 1993 The Gathering (for sure) " 18 december 1993 FMRFMRFMRFMR!!:) " 28 december 1993 Basics or Spundae/Wicked " 31 december 1993 Dawn of 1994 (afterparty) " 1 january 1994 some where in the first week of January, COME UNITY Thursdays- Spicelab, Your Sister's House d e l a w a r e U S A Alan M. Parry Flu'id (floo'-) brit@chopin.udel.edu 45 West Belmont Dr, Hockessin, DE. (302.234.9596) Phone (302.837.6343) Voice Mail Resolution baltimore December 31st Alchemy north of NYC January 6th I'll be workin at both of the above so I shouldnt be too hard to find :) f l o r i d a U S A David Mann Flavor Dave david.mann@launchpad.unc.edu I'll be at 803-786-8122 (Palm Harbor) or 803-868-3912 (Port Richey). I'm not sure of event names, but we'll be going to Tracks in Tampa on Sunday, hopefully barbarella in Orlando on Tuesday, and something on New Years Eve, i've got an original green & pink neraves badge i'll try to wear to the rave, i'm almost always wearing my 'nervous' records black baseball cap... i l l i n o i s U S A Nicolas Bamberski 1401 W.Huron #2 nib@dlogics.com Chicago, IL 60622 (312) 266 4428 work (312) 455 8908 home I will have crash space. I will stick to Chicago underground during these holidays. Somehow, I feel like all big productions (including Massive) are going to be TOO legal. I am expecting a lot from the upcoming C+ events and will keep you posted. Julian Carow Casper jcarow@mit.edu Evanston/Chicago 708.869.1594 Massive Milwaukee 31 December Bill Frain 312.925.3051 cuwpf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Southwest Chicago massive milwaukee 31 december 1993 nate (goldbaum) nattie goldbn@rpi.edu home phone (708) 256-1444 I'll be leaving school on the 23rd. I'll be vacationing w/ my family till the 30th. therefore, this number is useless till the 30th. massive milwaukee 31 december 1993 Subterranean I cleveland 15 january 1993 need ride from Chicago to event and from event to Albany,NY area Greg Kus -Kus- gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 5341 Grand Downers Grove, IL 60515 708.969.5683 I have no idea if I will be going to any particular events but I will be in Cincinatti over new years eve weekend. k e n t u c k y U S A Mary Koster (aka Sasha) sasha@kazak.NMSU.edu 461 East Maxwell. St. Lexington, KY 40508 606.255.8299 momentum lexington 22 january 1994 m a r y l a n d U S A suzy dougherty teen angel suzyd@wam.umd.edu 410.956.4951 253 charring ct. riva, md 21140 resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 Zach Eitzen zachary@tsunami.atmos.colostate.edu Dec. 24 - Jan 3 address: 11516 Alcinda Ln, Gaithersburg, MD 20878 phone: (301) 340-9487 resolution (probably) baltimore dec 31 Michael Francois Myg mfrancoi@umsa.umd.edu mfrancois@aol.com ultraworld@aol.com Phone: 410.522.6933 Pager: 410.712.5422 Ultraworld's RESOLUTION! and maybe more :) Woodrow Simmons Jr. (a.k.a The Sensitive Naked...) wsimmo1@GL.UMBC.EDU 8109 Euler Ave., Baltimore Md. 21244-3709 410.922.6277 RESOLUTION Baltimore, Md. Jan 31 Undecided about any others (money probs) JOhn Sweeney Harmon-e jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu located at: 102 St Albans Way, balto., md 21212 410.435.1348 or 410.435.0952 Resolution baltimore dec. 31! <--(hopefully, might need a ride) Gil Yaker Digital Druid cyberpun@wam.umd.edu 4126 Balmoral Circle Pikesville, Maryland 21208 410.922.4081 probably can provide lots of crash space in baltimore. (and I mean lots :) Events??? ....not sure yet. m i c h i g a n U S A andy crosby [SPeCiMeN\SelEKtOr] ndc@engin.umich.edu 1353 catalpa,rochester,mi,48104 313-651-4243 (mebbe 313-663-4360) no specific plans yet.. n o r t h c a r o l i n a U S A Rob Rousseau rarousse/Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu 1205 Boxwood Lane, Apex, NC 27502 (919)362-1199 or leave a message on my voice mail (919)512-5227 Right now I'm thinking of planning a trip to drive up north for Resolution/Alchemy stuff and stopping to see my relatives in E. Hartford, Conn., and Ipswich, Mass. So if I do that, then I'll probably like to stop by and visit all you ppl up there. Resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 Alchemy north of nyc 8 january 1993 p e n n s y l v a n i a U S A hossam el-saie sphinx (vrave) hae2@po.cwru.edu 214 N 4th St. Wison, PA. 15025 412.233.5918 (after 12/16) (216.754.2054 up to 12/16) UniversalVibe2 wayne, nj (near nyc) 18 December 1993 (50% chance) Resolution baltimore 31 December 1993 Alchemy north of nyc 8 January 1994 Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Philadelphia(north east) 1.800.374.4434 ext 20051 resolution baltimore new years alchemy ny january 8th buzz dc ?? fever baltimore ?? Jay Wells SoySos wells@physics.purdue.edu 2510 Applegate Ave. Bethel Park, Pa 15102 (412) 835-3876 (only during break) t e n n e s s e e U S A Christopher Edwards XtoFer cte9q@virginia.edu 9123 Stoney Mtn Dr Chatt. TN 37421 (615)499.5480 universal vibe 2 (maybe?) wayne, nj 18 december 1993 resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 possibly clubbing in Atlanta in January..... v e r m o n t U S A shelly xiola mh6221a@auvm.american.edu 56 summer street, saint johnsbury, vermont 802.748.2572 it takes about 30 minutes to get from my front door to the nearest chairlift. if anyone skis/snowboards, i can offer crashspace and hot chocolate and a slope companian (me:}). resolution baltimore december 31 alchemy ny january 8(?) v i r g i n i a U S A Tina F Chan Sun(flower) tchan@gmuvax.gmu.edu 10026 Mosby Woods Dr. #331 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 703.352.0698 Resolution Baltimore 31 December 1993 rest undecided :) Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@cmu.edu 703-820-4565, in the DC area Dec 15th - Jan 13th or so. Has crash space available for a couple people, although it's already accounted for for Resolution. universal vibe 2 wayne, nj 18 december 1993 resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 alchemy north of nyc 8 january 1994 Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Richmond - 804.768.2000 (V. Mail), 804.353.2871 (Lori's), 804.281.0922 (Home) Fredericksburg, Va. - 703.786.2847 (Dad's place) Reston, Va. - 703.758.8211 (Mom's place) Energize Richmond, Va. 1/15/94 Universal Vibe 2 Wayne, NJ 12/18/93 * Taking a bus-trip from Richmond Resolution Baltimore, Md. 12/31/93 * Running a bus-trip from Richmond Garden of... Harrisonburg, Va. 1/13/94 w i s c o n s i n U S A John FIGI FIGI 92826175@uwwvax.uwm.edu Janesville, WI (608) 754-0125 massive milwaukee 31 december 1993 (might need a ride anyone from so. wisconsin?) m i s c . p e o p l e a n d p l a c e s jeannie jfinks :) jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu phone numba: 617.736.8157 resolution baltimore 31 December 1993 or nyc chris mellow cmellow cmellow@moose.uvm.edu can get current phone location from dialing 802.656.7393 and entering m-e-l-l-o resolution baltimore 31 December 1993 or nyc -not sure what to do in nyc yet, though... alchemy outside nyc 1/8/94 and *possibly* (still trying to think about this one) golden boy's party.. ohio 1/15?16?/94 paul acid toy pasulliv@miami.acs.muohio.edu snow*ball and vision 17 december 1993 huckaby and young detroit 18 december 1993 resolution or massive 31 december 1993 momentum Kentucky 22 january 1994 ============================================================================= hours and hours and hours later... it is finished and in alphabetical order too!! :) if ya got left out... tough sh*t :) just kidding.. just post your info to the appropriate list and we can all add it to our lists manually... yes I'm actually suggesting you write something by hand... :) that's it for me... I'll be around till the weekend... but I'll be studying... everyone have a good break and enjoy the holidaze SEE YOU ALL AT RESOLUTION!!!! :) :) ^ ^ ^ t o F e r ____ _ _ _ - _ ^ ^ ONCE you stArt you cAn nEvEr stoP. Christopher......cte9q@virigina.edu From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 05:56:18 1993 From: Tikki Date: 14-DEC-1993 08:44:45.87 Subject: breakbeat n stuff Status: hey, thanks everyone who answered me. Funny, the station got speed limit 140bpm +, and I got best of techno 3. we also had futurhythms (comp) and welcome to the future comp (but it walked). What made me think of it is a comp that we got called "Fistful of Techno," which has a Lenny Dee really good breakbeat song callled "blood of an English Muffin." It is in the style of Acen's stuff. It also has some other good stuff on it which is really fast, but I doubt it would be called breakbeat. So, I was looking to see if there were other comps out like that one. I will look for bst of techno 4, and some of the other titles people sent, but wanted to mention fistful of techno since no one else had... take care, y'all! hades ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 07:50:04 1993 From: panik@satalink.com (Panik) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 22:48:00 -0640 Subject: Garden of Eden III Status: Hey ravers! DJ Panik comin' atcha from Philly, PA. The word is that the Horizon Group of Philly, PA is having Garden of Eden III on the 22nd of this month. Is this true? I will probably be calling Nigel 2morrow anyway, but I was wondering if anyone on the net knows about this. Lemme know... Peace in '94 DJ Panik From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 08:12:49 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 08:12:05 -0800 Subject: Re: Directions to A-L-C-H-E-M-Y Status: ALCHEMY is Saturday, January 8, 1994. Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 09:42:31 1993 From: that mellow kid Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 12:36:59 -500 (EST) Subject: Re: breakbeat n stuff Status: On 14 Dec 1993, Tikki wrote: > has a Lenny Dee really good breakbeat song callled "blood of an > English Muffin." It is in the style of Acen's stuff. It also has some lenny dee does breakbeat?? and don't i remember a group called "english muffin" putting out a single called "the blood of english muffin" this past spring? it was on industrial strength i believe, and if i remember correctly, and judging by the ind. strength label, it *wasn't* breakbeat. hmm..if this is a different track you're talking about i'd be interested to hear it! lenny dee doing breakbeat.... chris -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "What you take in by visionary experience you must give out by love and intelligence in daily life." -Aldous Huxley to Albert Hofmann -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 10:25:45 1993 From: JASCHOENLY@vaxsar.vassar.edu Date: 14 Dec 1993 13:23:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: English Muffin Status: The group English Muffin (i.e. Lenny Dee and (I think) Ralphie Dee) did indeed put out the track "The Blood of an English Muffin" on Industrial Strength. In my opinion, I would call the style of the track breakcore; it's got the breakbeat-ish sample throughout it, plus some other piano-like features of breakbeat, but it still has a haaaard kick throughout it, and it gets crazy hard toward the end! The English Muffin EP has two other songs on it that are also basically breakcore, and they're both great also! Jacob From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 10:25:17 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 13:24:37 EST Subject: Re: breakbeat n stuff Status: > > has a Lenny Dee really good breakbeat song callled "blood of an > > English Muffin." It is in the style of Acen's stuff. It also has some > > lenny dee does breakbeat?? and don't i remember a group called "english > muffin" putting out a single called "the blood of english muffin" this > past spring? it was on industrial strength i believe, and if i remember > correctly, and judging by the ind. strength label, it *wasn't* breakbeat. Spring? The first time I heard it was in Lenny Dee's set at Blue in February of this year. It's break*y*, but not breakbeat. I think he might have a few old old tracks that are true breakbeat (maybe?), but the stuff that he puts out more often has breakbeat intros or VERY light break*y* lines behind a pounding kick. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 10:59:19 1993 From: mad@acs.bu.edu (Melanie Dale) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 13:56:57 EST Subject: thank you Status: well, I just wanted to say thank you to everybody who has mailed me some information. I was really surprised at everything that I received. I am sure it will be a wonderful trip. bye bye, I will be back in april melanie From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 12:18:14 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 15:13:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Garden of Eden III Status: On Mon, 13 Dec 1993, Panik wrote: > Hey ravers! DJ Panik comin' atcha from Philly, PA. The word is that > the Horizon Group of Philly, PA is having Garden of Eden III on the 22nd > of this month. Is this true? I will probably be calling Nigel 2morrow > anyway, but I was wondering if anyone on the net knows about this. > Lemme know... > > Peace in '94 > > > DJ Panik THere is no EDEN III and I spoke with Nigel and he says he never heard of you. Jake From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 12:59:42 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 15:59:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOM-first of the week Status: Don't forget to start looking for rides now for New Years Eve events..... You can mail submissions anytime...Name, login/handle, address, event, if you need a ride or crash space..and where from. Love ya HUGZ!!! DC and UM Ravers: if you have and ROM submission don't forget to get them in tonight :) Love ya'll HUGZ!!! Melzie aka Misses her Gumdrop like nothin you can imagine.... P.S. You wouldn't believe how long this all takes...really.... **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Buzz [ladies night] DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Energize Richmond, VA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 18 Universal Vibe 2 Wayne, NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Minnich Inhuman Inhuman+@CMU.EDU Steve Hormell Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu Derek Tiffany [taking a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Melzie's Resolution Pre-party Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut :) melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Digital Druid, Cyberpun cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE - Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Rob Rousseau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] 6ANTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu David Darrow [w/ 2-4 friends and doing T's!] david.darrow@pics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Sweeney Hormon-E [may need a ride] jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu David Darrow Selling T-shirts david.darrow@pics.com Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Francis Sibilla Fran fran@chopin.udel.edu Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE-Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NY] 6ANOTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu Rob Roussau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Derek Tiffany [organizing a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Tina Sun (flower) A1TCHAN@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Luke NEEDS RIDE FROM ROCHESTER ls010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, January 6 Alchemy NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Minnich Inhuman Inhuman+@CMU.EDU Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jake Melon Dezign melon@access.netaxs.com Jason Method-one LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 13:59:18 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 16:55:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: your help... Status: If anyone could please call all the ravelines in your area and tell them that you want Alchemy listed on their line would be greatly apreciated. If you could just say that there is a party a half hour way from nyc called alchamy and list the info line. Also if you wanted you tell thwem to call the ZooM line if they have any questions about this event at 1.800.374.4434 ext 20051. This would be greatly aprecitated and help me out a lot! :) Thanks and Happy Holidays, Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 14:12:56 1993 From: AI3264%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 17:09:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Suture Soul Status: ......All in all it ended up being better than I had thought it would be, as others have said it was held in a wierd ho- down/country western/metal bar that resembled a large barn? Anyway the music was quite good, at some points I was really able to get groovin, and boy that floor that they put in just for the party was really slippery,it made dancing turn into ice-skating. The lighting was really cool- I guess because the place was kinda small and there were plenty a' lights to keep you busy. Scott Richmond played some amazing funky house that made feel like I was in another world and whoever was playing that crazy acid before him- wow! Kyle was drooling over all the crazy 303 lines- i don't blame him. Its too bad that the four djs from Downstate couldn't show up, it was still a pretty kick'in party..... ...the afterparty was pretty dead as Sprokett said, but it was fun working the lights too all the funky house that was being played.....Nice meet'in the people from MIT, RPI, Boston... and thanks Sprokett for getting us in for the reduced price.....See you all at Alchemy! SquiggleMan From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 14:58:38 1993 From: Matt Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 16:30:08 EST Subject: Re: breakbeat n stuff Status: On Tue, 14 Dec 93 13:24:37 EST you said: > >> > has a Lenny Dee really good breakbeat song callled "blood of an >> > English Muffin." It is in the style of Acen's stuff. It also has some >> >> lenny dee does breakbeat?? and don't i remember a group called "english >> muffin" putting out a single called "the blood of english muffin" this >> past spring? it was on industrial strength i believe, and if i remember >> correctly, and judging by the ind. strength label, it *wasn't* breakbeat. > >Spring? The first time I heard it was in Lenny Dee's set at >Blue in February of this year. > >It's break*y*, but not breakbeat. I think he might have a few old old tracks >that are true breakbeat (maybe?), but the stuff that he puts out more often >has breakbeat intros or VERY light break*y* lines behind a pounding kick. > Agreeing with Jacob, I also think that the style is "breakcore." The other tracks on that EP are "Follow the Leader," and "Should have been smarter," I think (I'm not exactly sure about the name of the latter). However, I was under the impression that On-E, not Lenny Dee, spun "the Blood of an English Muffin" at Blue. I think On-E was the one who had the breakcore/hard break- beat set that followed up Lenny Dee's beautifully insane set, which followed Adam X's crazy set. That's what I remember, anyway. Matt DJ Fresh Blend From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 16:30:22 1993 From: dekiyon@mindvox.phantom.com (Sean Kelly) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 19:25:53 EST Subject: Re: breakbeat n stuff Status: Fistful of Techno is, as far as I know, one of a kind. I know the guy that produced it, Bobby (from Cafe Soundz for those of you from NJ/NY). He wanted to get import stuff on a domestic label. He just came out with another compilation of all unreleased tracks, but I don't know the name. You can call Cafe Soundz at 201.509.2233 (open 'til 9pm), he's sure to know what you're talking about if you mention fistful. I don't know if this is what you're looking for (they're mostly hardcore, it seems to me) but some others that are pretty good are: Thunderdome 1-3 (3 is the best one) both long 2 CD comps Ruffneck vol 1 (2???) Wakin' up a Dean Planet (I _think_ that's the name-- I'm pretty sure there's 2 comps) Sounds of Rotterdam (sounds right) There are others, and I'm sure if you tell him what you want, he can suggest some. The only problem with all of these is that they're all imports, and rather expensive (though 2 CDs for $30 isn't bad for the TDomes). Cafe Sounds _does_ ship if you don't want to look for them at home (they seem to do a pretty good mail business) and he can special order just about anything you can think of. Hope this helps! -Sean From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 17:05:41 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 17:05:12 -0800 Subject: OOOPS (major embarassment) Status: Well, I hate to say this, I feel majorly embarassed, but I won't be moving to California after all. I jumped the gun on my announcement last week. The company and I didn't come to terms, and today I decided not to accept their offer. I'll still be out to visit, though -- I'll be in SF from Jan 11th until Jan 17th, so I hope to see some of you around, especially at Your Sisters' House on the 13th. Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 18:58:44 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 21:55:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 12/14/93) Status: =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Good luck with exams, those of you that have them! Have a fun break and all that. I suspect a lot of you will lose email access for a month or so. If you're on any high-volume mailing lists, like the NE-Raves discussion list, don't forget to unsubscribe! Instructions are below. Hope to see some of you this weekend at UniVibe2. The Wundervan may be making a trip there, chock full o' ravers! Other picks coming up: Resolution on New Year's and Alchemy the next week. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion or calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@usl.com so she can share it with the Technopolis list. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 12/14/93 - LIMELIGHT * (Capricorn) - New York City, NY - (???) ??? - ???? 12/17/93 - BUZZ * (Ladies Night) - Washington, DC - (202) 828 - 1944 12/17/93 - SMOOTH @ - Long Island, NY - (516) 242 - 1773 12/18/93 - UNIVERSAL VIBE 2 - Wayne, NJ - (212) 696 - 8938 12/31/93 - RESOLUTION - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 7031 12/31/93 - FUSION - New York City, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 01/08/93 - ALCHEMY - Rockland Cnty, NY - (908) 572 - 0259 01/15/94 - SYNERGY - New York City - (212) 631 - 3614 01/29/94 - GALAXY - Washington, DC - (202) 466 - 1692 02/12/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Tuesday, December 14 NEW YORK CITY (???) ??? - ???? LIMELIGHT * R&S Records, Astralwerks, and Blunt Academy Present: Direct from Belgium Astralwerks/Global Cuts/R&S Artist * C A P R I C O R N * Performing Their Hits "20 Hz" & "Haraiki" With DJ Abraxas (Fierce Ruling Diva) and DJ Reese (Communion, Astralwerks - NYC) at the Limelight _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 17 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 828 - 1944 BUZZ * ladies night (the buzz interpretation) buzz pays respect to dj's of the female gender. o Heather Heart (under one sky - ny) o Jacklyn Christie (strictly rhythm - ny) o Suz-E-Cyclone (dc) and of course the buzz dj's scott henry & lieven degeyndt o Who (baltimore) [where's Laura??] BUZZ will be closed for two weeks for the holiday season including Christmas Eve & New Years Eve, please mark your calendars. On New Years Eve, the BUZZ crew will be celebrating with ULTRAWORLD at Resolution - It's time to rave again. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 17 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 242 - 1773 SMOOTH @ You've experienced Natural High, now get set as we take you higher... Caffeine presents: S M O O T H December 17, 1993 Live performance by Rhythm Method. Also featuring Micro & Luis 2x4 simultaneously. DJs on the night include: Keoki: Disco 2000 * Jimmy Crash: Direct Drive * Blake Baxter: Detroit * Neuromancer: Germany * Scott Henry: Buzz * Dale Charles: San Diego * Rio: Discorama * Omar: LI Underground * Guy DMC: DMC Records * Dave Trance: Caffeine Records * Sameer: Essence * DNA: Caffeine Info: (516) 242-1773 $10 w/pass, $12 w/out _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, December 18 WAYNE, NJ (near NYC) (212) 696 - 8938 UNIVERSAL VIBE 2 Location: Skater's World in Wayne NJ (where Sputnik 2 was held in October 1992) DJs for the event are: Scott Henry, Robbie Hardkiss, Frankie Bones, James Christian, Guy DMC, King Britt, Denard, Micro, Wink, Adam X, Soul Slinger and Dmitri. DJs for the free afterparty are: Jaqueline Christie, Kise, Mr. Kleen, Space Ace, Joeski, Jimmy Crash and Sameer plus: 4 extra unannounced special DJs. The price is $17. Tickets are available from Groove Records (Brooklyn, NY), Planet X (New Brunswick, NJ) and 611 (Philadelphia, PA). If you are coming from out of the tri-state area, call the info line for details on how to get advance tickets. _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 7031 RESOLUTION Ultraworld Presents R E S O L U T I O N Friday December 31, 1993 New Year's Eve $20.00 US 333 WINK MICRO DJSUN JASON JINX SCOTT HENRY DAVE TRANCE LEIVEN DeGEYNDT WHO M-GEE SAMEER RYDE ONIONZ TOM T 12 hours of high energy GYROBIX techno tribal breakbeat MOONBOUNCE trance and hard acid SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE 2 lasers, giant screen GIANT VIDEO GAMES projection by ENO-ONE -- MELON DEZIGN 9 hours of ambient bliss to space your head featuring film lasers projections by projections by P.A.W.N DOUBLE HELIX oblivion lights by RETINAL BLOWJOB Ambient DJ's - wash, entity, john hicks, wordmosesripple and a special live performance by THE ALMIGHTY SENATORS smart bar by neuro-energy drink the water juice bar advance tickets on sale from dec 6th from: modern music balto 410.523.1882 open till 10:30 pm on 12/31 music now DC 202.638.1213 " " 9:30 pm on " loaded nyc 212.533.8463 call for hours 611 records philly 215.413.9100 call for hours checkered past harrisburg 717.561.8898 call for hours eddie van raven long island 516.925.2546 (pager, enter code 94) dezel boston 617.541.4258 bus trips: maine simon 207.871.8216 manhattan mello 212.631.4290 nh/vt nikki b 603.437.7795 nj/ny e-force 201.295.1925 vt mothership 802.860.7545 nj scooter 212.631.1033 connecticut warped 203.454.6643 philly thc 215.923.433 boston desel 617.541.4258 delaware zenith 302.764.9272 albany big dipper 518.465.6381 cleveland funky gizmos 216.238.1451 long island kort and greg 516.581.5426 richmond trance-fused 804.768.2000 montreal dna 514.854.6446 brooklyn dennis the menace 718.375.1954 call 410.880.7031 to find out about many additions to this list. call 410.522.6933 if you want to organize a bus or buy your ticket at the door ($25.00) .. here are the directions take 95 to baltimore. at the balto beltway (695) go west towards towson. take exit 34 - 83 north to timonium, get off at exit 16 east..timonium rd. cross the railroad tracks make a left into the first entrance, you can't miss it! admission: $20 in advance $25 at the door bus trips vary this event will reach capacity .. get your ticket early :) doors open 9:00 pm. after hours begins at 10:00 am, Sunday. DJ's T.B.A. MAIN INFO LINE: 410.880.7031 updates, communications, suggestions about the space: 37000 sq ft in 3 rooms, super-high ceilings, smooth clean dance floor, bathrooms like a YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER stadium, lit parking lot right in front, TO ENTER!!!!!! coat check, pay phones, A/C or heat on demand (wow!) .. 100 RAVE guaranteed :) merchants welcome: call 410.522.6933 for info Fresh Media 410.522.6933 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 3299 FUSION New Year's Party at the Newburgh Skate-park $15 9pm-9am DJs: Frankie Bones (Brooklyn) Overload (Maine) James Christian (Manhattan) Nigel Richards (Philadelphia) Osheen (Rhode Island) Scott Richmond (Fusion) Mr Kleen (Fusion) Joeski (Manhattan) Rio (Manhattan) Sprout (Fusion) Sponsored by WDST 100.1/96.9 FM Radio Woodstock: The New Direction Listen to the Underground Dance Experience Saturday Nights 12-3 am Directions: **From East and West take I-84 to exit 10s. At the light make a right on to 9W South. After crossing Broadway (17K) go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson St. 100 yards to skate park. **From N&S take Taconic to Rt. 84 and follow directions listed above or take I-87 to exit 17. Bear left to light and make a left onto 17K. Go down 10 lights to Rt. 9W South and make a right. Go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson Rd. Skate park on left. Trains: From New York City (Grand Central) take Metro North to Beacon: trains depart at 7:48 pm, 8:55, 10:01, 11:15, 12:20, 1:15, 1:20, 2:50. Free shuttle to and from the event. Big Dipper Albany Bus: 518-465-6381 INFO: 212-465-3299 914-463-9350 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 8 ROCKLAND COUNTY, NY (908) 572 - 0259 ALCHEMY Technopolis presents * A * L * C * H * E * M * Y * the science of sound + the magic of dance Saturday, January 8 ** 10pm - 7am ** $7 Rockland County, about 1/2 hour north of NYC INFO: Technopolis line: 908.572.0259 Gearhead (MA): 617.352.6939 Gearhead (NY): 518.695.6489 ZOOM: 215.998.9650 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 NEW YORK CITY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY SYNERGY Combined Energy * United Force * An Oracle Production January 15, 1994 * Information 212.631.3614 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 29 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 466 - 1692 GALAXY Thermonuclear productions presents Galaxy. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Mello & Primary Productions present R E D February 12 1994 Valentines Weekend Boston 617.541.4258 N.Y.C. 212.631.4290 READY??? _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 19:57:06 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 22:59:35 -0500 Subject: Re: OOOPS (major embarassment) Status: >Well, I hate to say this, I feel majorly embarassed, but I won't be >moving to California after all. I jumped the gun on my announcement >last week. The company and I didn't come to terms, and today I decided >not to accept their offer. I almost hate to say it but I'm kinda glad you didn't accept. I haven't even met you in real life and I was still a little disappointed when you said you'd be leaving. It'll be nice to have you on board for hopefully a long time =) here's hoping you get a great job offer right here in the NE! Tai aka DJ Hypno Tonic the Sonic Mage "choice of a techno generation" ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 14 21:23:22 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 00:22:29 EST Subject: UPCOMING RAVE 12/9 Status: i N T E L L i G E N T L i G H T i N G P R O D U C T i O N S Laserlighted DJ Dance Party Featuring: DJ SNOW, New York's Palladium Laserlight designers from Madison Square Garden RAVE~HOUSE~TRANCE~FOG~INTELLIBEAMS~6,000 WATTS Thursday, December 9 In the Student Center at Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 10pm-2am FREE ADMISSION FREE DRINKS with PUID Sponsored by Chancellor Green & the USG. byoXTC (park in Lot 10 to avoid 1/2 hr parking meters) Note: I am not familiar with the promoters holding this, but I may show & check it out. E-mail me if you're going, & want to get in touch. If so, include the word PRINCETON & YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS in the subject of your reply. Johnny T. Johnnyt123@aol.com Directions: Take the GS Parkway, Turnpike or the best way for you, to Route 1 South to Princeton area. A short while after Forrestal Shopping Village on R, look for Washington Rd intersection (yes with a light, also gas station on R). R onto Washington Rd & go almost to the end (Nassau St. too far). Turn R onto the last street before the end & park in lot 10 on the left. Walk back to Washington Rd, cross the street, go through the big archway & head straight across the lawn, then towards the R to the Student Center. From South: From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 09:03:26 1993 From: Harry Duran Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 11:59:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Hugh (the enigmatic) Status: > > > > > Laura, the San Francisco rave Scene is hugh,..... > > Well, just who is this geezer, and how can one person be responsible for such > a vibrant an diversified scene out your way? > > Hugh has been with us since the beginning of the rave scene here in San > Francisco.He doesnt come out often anymore,but when he does,you know it. > Recently he has shown up at some seminal events wearing nought but a > string of Christmas tree lights.He is a hyperdimensional being who > exists mostly in the space "between" (a simplification) > your molecules. > The last time I saw Hugh was at essence TNG in NYC!!! Although i am sure he frequents the west coast he spreads his vibe throughout the land bringing joy to the hearts of all good ravers. twas the night before alchemy and all tthru tha HOUSe nota kreechah was vravin no one clickin a mouse the lighting had been all synched with great care in hope that Hughs vibe would soon make it there well enough of that may the vibe of Hugh bless you holiday ravin' Love to all and thanks and hugs to laura \/\/aZzUPP!! the W is the A in the Z coz the Z is the U in the P From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 11:00:24 1993 From: jade@mindvox.phantom.com (Jade) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 13:53:55 EST Subject: address Status: Hello all! I'm a new kid on the block and need the adderss for the west coast (San Fransisco) rave list. If someone more knowledgeable then I could please send it to me it would be greatly appreciated. Reason being that I will be in New Mexico (my native homeland) in January and would like to go raving while I am there. So I am assuming that the requested list would be the approaite one for my purpose If not please correct my misguidance. Thanks. -Jade From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 11:19:42 1993 From: modE@convex.csd.uwm.edu Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 13:19:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: snow * ball on-line Status: > Reply to: RE>snow * ball on-line > About v-rave access: > > It looks like techno.stanford.edu 7283 requires a logon and password to get > in. I tried to login anonymously a few different ways but without success. > I'm wondering if I'll encounter the same problem Friday night or whether I'm > doing something wrong. I don't know what UseNet is but I do have telnet > access and I've only heard of chat, never used it. Ignorance is bliss but it > tends to limit your options. Can you give us some protocol details? Thanks. > > Tom Tcheng > T-TCHENG@UIUC.EDU well, youve got to type 'new' at the login prompt if you dont have an account. continue with the on-line instructions (ie READ THE SCREEN!:) Daniel James Frederiksen -- --------- ------------------------------- -- -- ---------------------------- -- -- ------ --- -- ------------ modE@convex.csd.uwm.edu -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- modE@csd4.csd.uwm.edu -- --- -- ------- ------- -------------- DANF@des.uwm.edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 11:59:05 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 14:58:52 EST Subject: this weekend Status: so... who all is going to UniVibe2 this weekend? Shall we meet somewhere? Or something? From Boston/MA, Becca, Donato, Neith, and I, and possible Mr. Handi (John) From: ??? Date: ??? Subject: ??? Status: Please e-mail me (vwang@lucy.wellesley.edu) if you are going... Thanks wfs jetta. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 12:24:19 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 15:24:06 EST Subject: Universal Vibe this saturday Status: Jetta writes: > who all is going to UniVibe2 this weekend? > Shall we meet somewhere? Or something? > > >From Boston/MA, Becca, Donato, Neith, and I, and possible Mr. Handi (John) > will be heading to to NYC and then to UV2. On the new flyers, it says 'last day to purchase tickets in advance is Wednesday, Dec. 14.' Today is Wednesday Dec 15 so I'm assuming they mean today. Tickets are: $17.50 in advance and $22 at the door! I'm about to go get some myself so if you need me to get you tickets, let me know TODAY! Suggestion: If you're coming to NYC then definitely get in contact with me. Since it's in NJ and I really want Laura to come, why don't we have a pre-dinner at Ali-Baba's in Hoboken again? It's big, plenty of parking, good food and Laura tells me it's not far from the site. We talked about having an ne-raves gathering at Ali-Baba's many months ago and I was in England for the first one. So how about it? :) Many more people than I expected from the list are showing up so a pre-gathering is essential! The ne-raves Christmas rave? ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 12:39:23 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 15:39:15 EST Subject: Uni Vibe correction/update Status: OK, I just got off the phone with Liquid Sky who told me they just decided to extend ticket sales until Saturday - the day of the party. They're open until 8pm everyday so even if you're coming into the city on a last minute whim, you can get yourself a ticket there (on 241 Laffayette near Prince St.) Looking forward... ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 12:52:23 1993 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 15:50:03 EST Subject: how the h*ll does one get onto vrave? Status: i was told to type new at the login prompt, well....didn't work, what am i doing wrong? sprockett From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 13:08:10 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 16:00:10 CST Subject: goldenboy --> NY for New Years Status: So whilst doing the bar hop thing this weekend (Christmas spirit and all that.) A buddy of mine came up with a plan to come to New York (or thereabouts) for New Years...and since it has been quite a while since I've done a road trip...I was all for it. Mind you, he came up with this idea after eating the 'Ta-Kill-Ya' worm :)...hee...boy did he pay for that one about 3 bars later. Rookie ;) Anyway...I am completely clueless as to what is going on and who will be around...and honestly...I'd like to see as many of you as I can...do the hang out/dance/have fun thing. So e-mail me and clue me in ! Peace to the NET. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 14:26:32 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 17:26:19 EST Subject: NY for New Years Status: Goldenboy asked what was happening in NY for New Year's Eve and I noticed that this wasn't in the rave-o-matic. NASA is having a party called COUNTDOWN around Times Square Scheduled DJs include: dB, On-E, Jules, Mr. Kleen, and others to be announced. Tickets in advance are probably $20, $25 at the door. Their recording should be updated on Thursday with a full DJ list and details. The number to call is: (212)330-8233 There's also FUSION (check the rave-o-matic) at the Skate Park in Newburgh, NY $15, 9pm-9am, DJs: Frankie Bones, Overload, James Christian, Nigel Richards, Osheen, Scott Richmond, Mr Kleen, Joeski, Rio and Sprout. Phil and I are probably staying in NY city so feel free to look us up! ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 15:18:13 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 15:18:00 -0800 Subject: Re: Universal Vibe this saturday Status: Yes, I totally support the idea of a pre-dinner at Ali Baba. I will post directions and a "time range" soon. What I mean by "time range" is that I will set a time during which I promise I will be there. You all can drop in at any time during that range. This is easier on the restaraunt than having 25 people all show up at once. I will also have directions from the restaraunt to the rave, it's about a 25 minute drive. If you are losing email because you are leaving for break, please call me at (908) - 522 - 6396 during the day or (201) - 217 - 9192 if you haven't yet seen the directions (I will post them later, so sit tight for as long as you can). Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 15:20:04 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 15:19:46 -0800 Subject: Re: how the h*ll does one get onto vrave? Status: No idea. I typed new, and then it asked me to give a login id. So I made one up and gave it. Then it asked me for a handle. So I made one up and gave it. Then it asked me for a password. So I made one up and gave it. No problems here. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 15:44:29 1993 From: dekiyon@mindvox.phantom.com (Sean Kelly) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 18:37:46 EST Subject: UVibe Status: Well, I'm going to UVibe this weekend. I'll probably be getting tickets at the door, since it'd cost me more than $5 to get to any place selling tickets (I only live 15 min from the actual location, though--go figure), either busing to NY or driving to E Brunswick--oh well. If anyone wants to meet closer to the actual location, has ideas about lunch after, etc. I'm planning on doing some scouting tomorrow along w/my christmas shopping. I _may_ be able to arrange somethinng at my house afte (or even before), but I'd have to hear some kind of response because It's my parents house (and I'd have to tell them something). If all else fails, I'll be at UVibe nonetheless, probably with some goodies in a cooler for after...I hear there's an afterparty-- does anybody know where, yet?? plur -Sean The hard and stiff will be broken. The soft and supple will prevail. -Lao-tzu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 16:01:34 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 19:01:17 EST Subject: Xmas/New Years Planz Status: Heya All, Sorry i've been procrastinating on the Xmas/New Years plans and all that. It looks like i won't be able to get out until Dec 31 anyway (i have to save my holidays for when my folks come to visit me in Jan), so i think the best bet for an NE-raves X.mas gathering is either this weekend at the Universal Vibe and pre-party, or on X.mas eve before the Pulse weekly clubnite. Have a great new year, and i guess i will be going to the Countdown thingy if anyone else is interested in cruising NYC on New Years Eve. See you all soon! O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 16:01:52 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 16:01:18 -0800 Subject: Pre UniVibe Dinner!!!! Status: Hi all, Directions to Ali Baba at 452 Newark St. in Hoboken, NJ. Meet us there starting at 7.00 pm. When you get there just go in and order dinner, we will turn up! Don't worry about being early or late, we actually want to sort of space out our attack on the restaraunt. I won't be going to Universal Vibe, so I will hang out at Ali Baba until the last ne-raver leaves, but please plan to be there by 9.00 pm. I will have directions from Ali Baba to Universal Vibe at dinner. Ali Baba is a middle-eastern place with a range of meat and vegetarian dishes in a range of prices. Technopolis had a dinner there before Cybertek in October and the majority of people were highly satisfied. Try to sit in the booths on the left side of the store. DRIVING -- FROM THE NORTH, SOUTH, OR WEST: New Jersey Turnpike to 14C / Holland Tunnel After you pay the toll stay to the LEFT, and take the fork that says "Holland Tunnel" As you come down the final ramp toward the lights before the tunnel, get all the way to the LEFT. Turn LEFT at the light, you will now be on Jersey Avenue in Jersey City. Go through three lights. The road will then make a SHARP turn toward the RIGHT. Follow it around to the RIGHT. You are now in Hoboken. Make the first allowable LEFT, you will now be on Jackson St. Make the very first RIGHT you can off Jackson St. You are now on the same street as Ali Baba. Go through the light. Ali Baba is ahead on your left. You can only park on the left side of the street so either go past the restaurant and make a u-turn and come back to park OR make the first LEFT after the light and immediately look for a place to park. FROM NEW YORK CITY OR LONG ISLAND: Get yourself to the Holland Tunnel. The entrance is on Canal St. As you exit the Holland Tunnel get all the way over to the RIGHT. At that very first light right by the Merit Station turn RIGHT. Go all the way down that road until it comes to a T. You will see Ali Baba in front of you but you can't get to it because of a divider in the road. Make a LEFT at the T. Go through the light and make the first available RIGHT after the light, you are now on Jackson St. in Hoboken. Make the very first RIGHT you can off Jackson St. You are now on the same street as Ali Baba. Go through the light. Ali Baba is ahead on your left. You can only park on the left side of the street so either go past the restaurant and make a u-turn and come back to park OR make the first LEFT after the light and immediately look for a place to park. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION -- BY GREYHOUND: Take the bus to New York City/Port Authority. Get the E subway train ($1.25) from Port Authority downtown to the World Trade Center / Chambers Street. Walk out of the subway and follow signs for the PATH. Take the PATH ($1.00) to Journal Square. Change there for the train to Hoboken. BY TRAIN (Long Island Rail Road or Amtrack from the north): Take the train to Penn Station. Exit Penn Station for 32nd Street and 7th Avenue. Pick up the PATH train from 32nd Street and 6th Avenue (entrance is by A&S Plaza). Make sure you get the train that says HOB over the doors. BY TRAIN (Metro-North Rail Road and Amtrack Hudson Valley Trains): Take the train to Grand Central Station. Get the E subway train ($1.25) from Grand Central Station downtown to the World Trade Center / Chambers Street. Walk out of the subway and follow signs for the PATH. Take the PATH ($1.00) to Journal Square. Change there for the train to Hoboken. BY TRAIN (New Jersey Transit or Amtrack from the south): Check to see if your New Jersey Transit train goes right to Hoboken. If it does, you've got it easy. Otherwise, take the train to Newark (if you are coming from Philly and don't want to use Amtrack then take the SEPTA train to Trenton and change there for New Jersey Transit). When you get to Newark get on the PATH train ($1.00). It only goes one way from there, so you can't get lost. Take the train to Journal Square, and change there for the train to Hoboken. FROM NEW YORK CITY: Pick up the PATH ($1.00) at 33rd and 6th Ave OR 22nd and 6th Ave OR 14th and 6th Ave OR 9th and 6th Ave OR Christopher Street all the way west. Make sure you get a train that says HOB above the doors. OR pick up the PATH ($1.00) at the World Trade Center. Take it to Journal Square and then change there for the train to Hoboken. ONCE YOU GET TO HOBOKEN: Exit the train or subway station and get yourself out to the street. Orient yourself by locating the newstand by the entrance to the PATH tunnels. You are now on Hudson Place. Walk LEFT along Hudson Place to Hudson Street. The Santa Fe Yacht Club will be on your right. Turn RIGHT onto Hudson Street and walk one block to Newark Street. Turn LEFT onto Newark Street and walk about 9 blocks to Ali Baba. It will be on your right, diagonally across from the Texaco station. OR take a cab from the station (you can't miss them) to Ali Baba. Make SURE you tell them you want the Ali Baba at 452 Newark, because there are two of them in Hoboken. It should cost about $2.50. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 16:33:12 1993 From: vkuperma@mason1.gmu.edu () Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 19:33:04 -0500 Subject: Hey Ariel Status: Que tal flako, me llamo Valentin...soy DJ aqui en los estados unidos (en Washington DC)...te queria saludarte... Bueno, con eso dicho, me voy...:) Ciao, Valentin (Speed Demon) From bbehlen Wed Dec 15 17:28:44 1993 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 17:28:39 PST Subject: forwarded bounced mail Status: >From @UNBMVS1.CSD.UNB.CA:C7O7@UNB.CA Mon Dec 13 12:21:12 1993 To: Subject: francois dion & UMO Hi folks..Francois..love your idea for a posted fanzine. i have quite a hard time trying to get galaxie 2000 or whatever it's called from mtl. i find it mostly at american events. you may remember me...i called you on the phone and asked about eclipse and other upcoming mtl and quebec events. i'm from new brunswick. i put on my own raves here but, as i mentioned to you on the phone, i'm also looking for dj gigs outside n.b., maybe in quebec? Do you know promoters in quebec city or other places in quebec that might like the services of a free dj. i'm dying to spin out of town. i can provide tapes in advance of course. can you help me out? This message also applies to those of you on th net from Maine.i noticed that there are events happening at umo which is a mere 3 hours from my humble home. Would love to spin at your parties for free (or at least munchies and lodging?) in fact, why don't i make this a general plea for a chance to spin anywhere within a day's drive of Fredericton, New Brunswick Canada for room and board (but even that is negotiable) Do i sound too desperate? Maybe i am. Everyone in my hometown is so jaded about the scene having trekked off to so many raves stateside. If i can't get superstar dj's and intellabeams then it's somehow not as good as boston, or portland, or...even tho i never advertise them to be anything but all-night dance parties. As a result, i'm not sure when i'll do another one since i lost $200plus at the last two i did. i've been invited to spin in halifax sometime in january so i at least have that to look forward to. (sigh) ciao, dj nonsense. --- End of forwarded message >From cte9q@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Mon Dec 13 14:54:14 1993 From: XtoFer Date: Mon, 13 Dec 93 17:53:48 EST To: dcraves@american.edu, mw-raves@engin.umich.edu, ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU, seraves@american.edu Subject: wIntEr brEAk gEttiN' it oN liSt Hey Kids!! Well here it is FINALLY. I played a little too hard this weekend. But FEVER was awesome. I wish you all could have been there. Actually, I wish you all could have been where I was that night :) (Those of you who saw me there know what I'm talking about!) Thank you for cooperating on the form... it helped a lot... and for those of you who didn't... SHAME!! You let those little Gremlins talk to you again :) Enough already... with out further... BS here it is... ____________-------------___ _ __ - - ____ --- ___________________ ___----- the 1 9 9 3 / 9 4 wIntEr brEAk gEttiN' it oN liSt ============================================================================ c a l i f o r n i a U S A Cindy Kawakami SFRaves Airport Shuttle Girl Hostess Sea of Sin Snoopie:) Call me or email me first if you are coming to SF (San Francisco) actually just email me, you might crash vrave if you call me:) Bliss (maybe) 'frisco 17 december 1993 The Gathering (for sure) " 18 december 1993 FMRFMRFMRFMR!!:) " 28 december 1993 Basics or Spundae/Wicked " 31 december 1993 Dawn of 1994 (afterparty) " 1 january 1994 some where in the first week of January, COME UNITY Thursdays- Spicelab, Your Sister's House d e l a w a r e U S A Alan M. Parry Flu'id (floo'-) brit@chopin.udel.edu 45 West Belmont Dr, Hockessin, DE. (302.234.9596) Phone (302.837.6343) Voice Mail Resolution baltimore December 31st Alchemy north of NYC January 6th I'll be workin at both of the above so I shouldnt be too hard to find :) f l o r i d a U S A David Mann Flavor Dave david.mann@launchpad.unc.edu I'll be at 803-786-8122 (Palm Harbor) or 803-868-3912 (Port Richey). I'm not sure of event names, but we'll be going to Tracks in Tampa on Sunday, hopefully barbarella in Orlando on Tuesday, and something on New Years Eve, i've got an original green & pink neraves badge i'll try to wear to the rave, i'm almost always wearing my 'nervous' records black baseball cap... i l l i n o i s U S A Nicolas Bamberski 1401 W.Huron #2 nib@dlogics.com Chicago, IL 60622 (312) 266 4428 work (312) 455 8908 home I will have crash space. I will stick to Chicago underground during these holidays. Somehow, I feel like all big productions (including Massive) are going to be TOO legal. I am expecting a lot from the upcoming C+ events and will keep you posted. Julian Carow Casper jcarow@mit.edu Evanston/Chicago 708.869.1594 Massive Milwaukee 31 December Bill Frain 312.925.3051 cuwpf@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu Southwest Chicago massive milwaukee 31 december 1993 nate (goldbaum) nattie goldbn@rpi.edu home phone (708) 256-1444 I'll be leaving school on the 23rd. I'll be vacationing w/ my family till the 30th. therefore, this number is useless till the 30th. massive milwaukee 31 december 1993 Subterranean I cleveland 15 january 1993 need ride from Chicago to event and from event to Albany,NY area Greg Kus -Kus- gmk40719@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 5341 Grand Downers Grove, IL 60515 708.969.5683 I have no idea if I will be going to any particular events but I will be in Cincinatti over new years eve weekend. k e n t u c k y U S A Mary Koster (aka Sasha) sasha@kazak.NMSU.edu 461 East Maxwell. St. Lexington, KY 40508 606.255.8299 momentum lexington 22 january 1994 m a r y l a n d U S A suzy dougherty teen angel suzyd@wam.umd.edu 410.956.4951 253 charring ct. riva, md 21140 resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 Zach Eitzen zachary@tsunami.atmos.colostate.edu Dec. 24 - Jan 3 address: 11516 Alcinda Ln, Gaithersburg, MD 20878 phone: (301) 340-9487 resolution (probably) baltimore dec 31 Michael Francois Myg mfrancoi@umsa.umd.edu mfrancois@aol.com ultraworld@aol.com Phone: 410.522.6933 Pager: 410.712.5422 Ultraworld's RESOLUTION! and maybe more :) Woodrow Simmons Jr. (a.k.a The Sensitive Naked...) wsimmo1@GL.UMBC.EDU 8109 Euler Ave., Baltimore Md. 21244-3709 410.922.6277 RESOLUTION Baltimore, Md. Jan 31 Undecided about any others (money probs) JOhn Sweeney Harmon-e jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu located at: 102 St Albans Way, balto., md 21212 410.435.1348 or 410.435.0952 Resolution baltimore dec. 31! <--(hopefully, might need a ride) Gil Yaker Digital Druid cyberpun@wam.umd.edu 4126 Balmoral Circle Pikesville, Maryland 21208 410.922.4081 probably can provide lots of crash space in baltimore. (and I mean lots :) Events??? ....not sure yet. m i c h i g a n U S A andy crosby [SPeCiMeN\SelEKtOr] ndc@engin.umich.edu 1353 catalpa,rochester,mi,48104 313-651-4243 (mebbe 313-663-4360) no specific plans yet.. n o r t h c a r o l i n a U S A Rob Rousseau rarousse/Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu 1205 Boxwood Lane, Apex, NC 27502 (919)362-1199 or leave a message on my voice mail (919)512-5227 Right now I'm thinking of planning a trip to drive up north for Resolution/Alchemy stuff and stopping to see my relatives in E. Hartford, Conn., and Ipswich, Mass. So if I do that, then I'll probably like to stop by and visit all you ppl up there. Resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 Alchemy north of nyc 8 january 1993 p e n n s y l v a n i a U S A hossam el-saie sphinx (vrave) hae2@po.cwru.edu 214 N 4th St. Wison, PA. 15025 412.233.5918 (after 12/16) (216.754.2054 up to 12/16) UniversalVibe2 wayne, nj (near nyc) 18 December 1993 (50% chance) Resolution baltimore 31 December 1993 Alchemy north of nyc 8 January 1994 Jennifer Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Philadelphia(north east) 1.800.374.4434 ext 20051 resolution baltimore new years alchemy ny january 8th buzz dc ?? fever baltimore ?? Jay Wells SoySos wells@physics.purdue.edu 2510 Applegate Ave. Bethel Park, Pa 15102 (412) 835-3876 (only during break) t e n n e s s e e U S A Christopher Edwards XtoFer cte9q@virginia.edu 9123 Stoney Mtn Dr Chatt. TN 37421 (615)499.5480 universal vibe 2 (maybe?) wayne, nj 18 december 1993 resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 possibly clubbing in Atlanta in January..... v e r m o n t U S A shelly xiola mh6221a@auvm.american.edu 56 summer street, saint johnsbury, vermont 802.748.2572 it takes about 30 minutes to get from my front door to the nearest chairlift. if anyone skis/snowboards, i can offer crashspace and hot chocolate and a slope companian (me:}). resolution baltimore december 31 alchemy ny january 8(?) v i r g i n i a U S A Tina F Chan Sun(flower) tchan@gmuvax.gmu.edu 10026 Mosby Woods Dr. #331 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 703.352.0698 Resolution Baltimore 31 December 1993 rest undecided :) Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@cmu.edu 703-820-4565, in the DC area Dec 15th - Jan 13th or so. Has crash space available for a couple people, although it's already accounted for for Resolution. universal vibe 2 wayne, nj 18 december 1993 resolution baltimore 31 december 1993 alchemy north of nyc 8 january 1994 Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Richmond - 804.768.2000 (V. Mail), 804.353.2871 (Lori's), 804.281.0922 (Home) Fredericksburg, Va. - 703.786.2847 (Dad's place) Reston, Va. - 703.758.8211 (Mom's place) Energize Richmond, Va. 1/15/94 Universal Vibe 2 Wayne, NJ 12/18/93 * Taking a bus-trip from Richmond Resolution Baltimore, Md. 12/31/93 * Running a bus-trip from Richmond Garden of... Harrisonburg, Va. 1/13/94 w i s c o n s i n U S A John FIGI FIGI 92826175@uwwvax.uwm.edu Janesville, WI (608) 754-0125 massive milwaukee 31 december 1993 (might need a ride anyone from so. wisconsin?) m i s c . p e o p l e a n d p l a c e s jeannie jfinks :) jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu phone numba: 617.736.8157 resolution baltimore 31 December 1993 or nyc chris mellow cmellow cmellow@moose.uvm.edu can get current phone location from dialing 802.656.7393 and entering m-e-l-l-o resolution baltimore 31 December 1993 or nyc -not sure what to do in nyc yet, though... alchemy outside nyc 1/8/94 and *possibly* (still trying to think about this one) golden boy's party.. ohio 1/15?16?/94 paul acid toy pasulliv@miami.acs.muohio.edu snow*ball and vision 17 december 1993 huckaby and young detroit 18 december 1993 resolution or massive 31 december 1993 momentum Kentucky 22 january 1994 ============================================================================= hours and hours and hours later... it is finished and in alphabetical order too!! :) if ya got left out... tough sh*t :) just kidding.. just post your info to the appropriate list and we can all add it to our lists manually... yes I'm actually suggesting you write something by hand... :) that's it for me... I'll be around till the weekend... but I'll be studying... everyone have a good break and enjoy the holidaze SEE YOU ALL AT RESOLUTION!!!! :) :) ^ ^ ^ t o F e r ____ _ _ _ - _ ^ ^ ONCE you stArt you cAn nEvEr stoP. Christopher......cte9q@virigina.edu --- End of forwarded message >From deb9@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu Tue Dec 14 09:36:18 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 12:28:29 CST To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: NJ --> SF Laura...I just wanted to extend my congratulations on your new job. And wish you all the luck on your new venture. Peace ! --- End of forwarded message >From jshiple@media.mit.edu Tue Dec 14 10:01:16 1993 From: Handi-boy Subject: Re: breakbeat n stuff To: cmellow@moose.uvm.edu (that mellow kid) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 93 13:01:14 EST english muffin' is rotterdam style hahdcoah unless there is a break beat version i have it on a compilation called thunderdome which is just tons of rotterdam style techno tracks dee is attributed with the song "The Blood of an English Muffin'" (and the group is English Muffin') probably one of those one song side projects but maybe not i don't really know -John steak? --- End of forwarded message >From bb2j+@andrew.cmu.edu Tue Dec 14 17:50:51 1993 Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1993 20:49:28 -0500 (EST) From: "Brian O. Bozarth" To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: Re: breakbeat n stuff Cc: Check out the Industrial Sampler #1..I think the whole thing is done by Lenny Dee. One side is by English Muffin..which is hardcore(lots of noise). The other side is by Crowd Control..which features two cuts..both are hard breakbeat. It's pretty good although it's been around for awhile. Nice OpusIII sample in the last song though. The Blood of an English Muffin isn't exactly breakbeat(4x4 hardbeat)..but it is easily mixable into a breakbeat set. Just ask damian: he has done in quite a few times..when the song was brand new and hot. brian luna'tik ((sonic)) --- End of forwarded message >From deb9@thor.INS.CWRU.Edu Wed Dec 15 06:32:18 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Wed, 15 Dec 93 09:24:29 CST To: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: goldenboy --> NY for New Years So whilst doing the bar hop thing this weekend (Christmas spirit and all that.) A buddy of mine came up with a plan to come to New York (or thereabouts) for New Years...and since it has been quite a while since I've done a road trip...I was all for it. Mind you, he came up with this idea after eating the 'Ta-Kill-Ya' worm :)...hee...boy did he pay for that one about 3 bars later. Rookie ;) Anyway...I am completely clueless as to what is going on and who will be around...and honestly...I'd like to see as many of you as I can...do the hang out/dance/have fun thing. So e-mail me and clue me in ! Peace to the NET. --- End of forwarded message From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 17:48:54 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 20:51:19 +0300 Subject: Re: NY for New Years Status: >NASA is having a party called COUNTDOWN around Times Square >Scheduled DJs include: dB, On-E, Jules, Mr. Kleen, and others to be ~~~~~~~~~~~ >announced. Tickets in advance are probably $20, $25 at the door. >Their recording should be updated on Thursday with a full DJ list and details. >The number to call is: (212)330-8233 > >There's also FUSION (check the rave-o-matic) at the Skate Park in Newburgh, NY >$15, 9pm-9am, DJs: Frankie Bones, Overload, James Christian, Nigel Richards, >Osheen, Scott Richmond, Mr Kleen, Joeski, Rio and Sprout. ~~~~~~~~~~ ummmmm...is this a typo, or is COUNTDOWN not on New Years Eve? Becauz if it was, having a party around Times Square would be an invitation to mass trampling i would think. peace ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 19:31:21 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:30:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: STUFF :) Status: 1) If you're planning on coming to the pre-thingy, but won't have access during break, feel free to call me anytime for directions or times and such....[or if you have an emergency ride problem] 410.653.1274 2) I got the cutest letter that was someone that felt badly about wanting to come to the pre-thingy since he didn't know me...BELIEVE me that's not a problem :) [and I take free hugz from strangers] 3) So far, 6 hours this week on HOM stuff...so if you have anymore, PLEASE mail it as soon as possible if you haven't....... Also, don't forget to see if you can offer rides to those that need it....it really helps it out and I feel terribly when anyone can't come for lack of ride. 4) HUGZ! Have an amazing break :") Love ya Melzie aka A very old soul From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 19:49:47 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 22:49:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: STUFF II : The forgotten notes Status: Here's for forgotten stuff: 1) If you need Tickets for Resolution...please mail me Melanie Colton 4100 Colonial Road Pikesville, MD 21208 a check with a letter including name and login with e-mail address I'm more than happy to run down and save you the $5 2) Don't forget, if you're coming from the north, it's probably not that out of your way to pick someone up in need along the way down...plese keep this in mind. Okee, Bah-bye-baby Mel aka what is my cat doing in the sink? From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 20:13:30 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:11:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: vrave... Status: Sprocket, the reason you are not getting on might be because you are typing the wrong number.... Laura, in the last TNP, you have it as: telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 That's wrong...I checked my login.com...the right address is: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283 Have fun on vrave...It's sort-of-addicting. :) -Akeera ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .................... .............Akeera........ "Measure twice, cut once ............surfing the internet........ Mon...." ............................................. -Neuromancer ***********Ira Miller @ IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@uacsc2.ALBANY.edu************** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 20:45:22 1993 From: Andrew Robinson Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1993 23:45:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: UNI VIBE directions Status: Sorry if this has been already asked (I just re-joined this list), but does anybody out there have directions to Universal Vibe this weekend in Wayne, NJ? I'd be coming from New Brunswick, NJ -- so I'd probably go on 287 North to 80 east and then ???? Please send the directions here (robinson@cnj.digex.com) and also to another account (ajrobin@acpy01.att.com). I'd really appreciate it. Now I hope Planet X still has some tickets left . . . -- Andrew From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 22:15:54 1993 From: thn1@cornell.edu (Tai Nguyen) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 01:18:23 -0500 Subject: ROM? Status: I stupidly trashed my copy of the Rave-o-Matic...can anyone forward me a copy of the latest? Thanks bunches... In times of trouble, in your darkest hour...wear fluorescent and use blacklights ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 22:39:23 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 1:39:14 EST Subject: Re: NY for New Years Status: > ummmmm...is this a typo, or is COUNTDOWN not on New Years Eve? Becauz if > it was, having a party around Times Square would be an invitation to mass > trampling i would think. OK, I should have said the site, to be announced, will be in a building or club somewhere near Times Square. Better? Also, yes Mr. Kleen is scheduled for both COUNTDOWN and FUSION on New Year's eve. If you noticed though, I said the DJ list for NASA is tentative. The official DJ list will be listed on their phone lines after thursday. Since Newburgh is not far from Manhattan, I think Mr. Kleen could manage to spin at both parties if he wants. Ah, the crazy life DJs live. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 15 23:17:28 1993 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 02:16:39 -0500 Subject: Re: vrave... Status: sfraves and techno are interchangable..they get you to the same point love and frogs!!! neith From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 00:34:04 1993 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 03:31:12 EST Subject: Pre-gathering for UniVibe Status: Cyberspace Jacker-inners, There is a Pizza place right next to the Roller Rink where Univibe2 will be (the roller rink is in a little shopping plaza). Why don't we just meet there early? Easy and pizza is yummy! (I don't want to hear it from you health food people! :) ). Love all of you (especially J.J.S.), Mars From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 07:14:38 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 07:14:28 -0800 Subject: Re: vrave... Status: Akeera writes: >Sprocket, the reason you are not getting on might be because you are typing the >wrong number.... > >Laura, in the last TNP, you have it as: > > telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 > >That's wrong...I checked my login.com...the right address is: > > telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283 > No Akeera, you are confused. techno.stanford.edu and sfraves.stanford.edu are the exact same machine/exact same address. The machine that used to be called "sfraves" was renamed "techno." The name "sfraves" remains as an alias to "techno" so that people can use either and still get to the right place. Believe me, I know the techno address works, I'd NEVER print any net-directions in Technopolis without trying them myself, first. Laura From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 07:19:38 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 07:19:30 -0800 Subject: pre-uniVibe meeting confusion? Status: Mars suggested meeting at the Pizza place after Will and I suggested and posted directions for meeting at Ali Baba's in Hoboken. Okay kids, which will it be? We need to make a decision. Laura From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 08:17:28 1993 From: steveh@susq.com (Steve Hormell) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 11:17:14 EST Subject: Re: pre-uniVibe meeting confusion? Status: Just because of convience...i would prefer to have the pre-dinner at the pizza place. I would have a much better chance of making this one. And besides, pizza is easy. fluffhead From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 11:04:51 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 14:02:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Excusemystupidity Status: Sorry....I first got on by sfraves.stanford.edu, so seeing something different made me say: "oh, of course! he's using the wrong address!" *meepish grin* Oh well, no wonder my best friend calls me a cupcake. :) -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 11:06:45 1993 From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 11:05:51 -0800 Subject: Re: vrave... Status: On Dec 15, 11:11pm, you proclaimed: } Laura, in the last TNP, you have it as: } telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 } That's wrong...I checked my login.com...the right address is: } telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283 sfraves.stanford.edu = techno.stanford.edu. I just thought people might be weirded out my mailing ne-raves@sfraves.stanford.edu :) Brian From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 11:31:36 1993 From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 14:30:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Pre-gathering for UniVibe Status: On Thu, 16 Dec 1993, D.J.MARS wrote: > Love all of you (especially J.J.S.), <-------thanks D.J.M.H.V. hehe. Jenn-bug Jennifer Smeddy From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 11:47:10 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 14:44:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Pre-Alchemy-dinner/breakfast? Status: I'm sure lots of people are going to be busy that late afternoon/early evening setting up, but does anybody want to go out for dinner before hand? Or maybe breakfast after? (but it seems that breakfast is inevitable *grin*) I will definitely be going out to eat early that afternoon (I _do_ want to help out if I can) at a really good chinese restaurant. It _looks_ really fancy and expensive, but it's relatively cheap. Me, my friend and my girlfriend will be heading out there for an early dinner....anyone else interested? E-mail me... -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 12:04:53 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 15:04:27 -0500 Subject: UNIV VIBE/ MASSies Status: Are there any massachusetts people going? How long of a drive is it anyway? (from, you guessed it, amherst MASS) decisions decisions jim Hippy hoppy halliday to you to fat boy! =) From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 14:14:06 1993 From: vkuperma@mason1.gmu.edu () Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 17:13:59 -0500 Subject: Hey Neith Status: I downloaded a copy of the WinImages demo, but haven't gotten to work the morph between the woman and the tree frog...looks very k00l... i got some other morphing programs... seeya'z Speed "Cerebral Cruncher" Demon From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 14:39:36 1993 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 17:38:33 -0500 Subject: Re: pre-uniVibe meeting confusion? Status: sorry i gave directions to people that no longer have net access...saying ali baba ali baba's i think we ought to stick to that as that was postyed first love and frogs!!! neith From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 15:46:20 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Thu, 16 Dec 93 18:45:59 EST Subject: Pre-Alchemy-dinner/breakfast? (fwd) Status: > > I'm sure lots of people are going to be busy that late afternoon/early evening > setting up, but does anybody want to go out for dinner before hand? Or maybe > breakfast after? (but it seems that breakfast is inevitable *grin*) > > I will definitely be going out to eat early that afternoon (I _do_ want to help > out if I can) at a really good chinese restaurant. It _looks_ really fancy and > expensive, but it's relatively cheap. Me, my friend and my girlfriend will be > heading out there for an early dinner....anyone else interested? E-mail me... > > > -Akeera sounds good to me, but we'll have to make it PRETTY EARLY so that we can get to the site in plenty of time to setup for a 10:00pm opening. dinner at 5:00, leave in time to arrive at site at 6:00. if this is feasible, i say it's a deal, but if not, i guess breakfast will have to do :) peace and seasons blessings! O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 16:46:38 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 19:44:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: pre-alchemy dinner... Status: I think we could pull that off Rishad. There's other restaurants, a lot closer to the site also, but I wanted to go to that chinese place. Why not this: Anybody who wants to go to out and get a bite to eat before hand, meet at the site at 4:00-4:30....then we could decide and go from there. Hey, we could even order in some pizzas or chinese food, and eat it at the site(in our cars...) Pizza place: "hello...Maria's pizza, pick-up or delivery?" us: "delivery...3 large pies, 2 six packs of coke" Pizza place: "address?" us: "white chevrolet cavalier, black honda prelude, red acura integra at the corner of Rte 45 and **** street..." :) :) I'm sure the pizza place would love that. Actually, one of my finals I _know_ I am going to fail, I was thinking of having a pizza delivered while I am in the test room...like actually in the room. *evil grin* -Akeera btw---> anybody that is arriving into the 'spring valley' area for Alchemy earlier in the day, feel free to give me a ring: (914) 356-4569, ask for Ira From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 18:02:35 1993 From: Harry Duran Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 20:58:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: vrave... Status: > > Sprocket, the reason you are not getting on might be because you are typing the > wrong number.... > > Laura, in the last TNP, you have it as: > > telnet techno.stanford.edu 7283 > > That's wrong...I checked my login.com...the right address is: > > telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283 > actually both of those addresses work equally well WaZzUp! > > From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 18:07:06 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 21:06:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: OY! [HOM] Status: Geez! This a long, long, long, long time....anyways...here's the list....please make sure that if you're able to carry an extra passenger you check to see if anyone's on your way..and then please mail me and tell me once you find a ride, [so I don't attempt to find you one while you're already taken care of] Have a great break....kep well, breathe often... Love ya! Melzie aka Gets her Gummy back for 5 whole weeks :) And without further ado.....the fruits of my sleep deprevation: **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Buzz [ladies night] DC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 17 Energize Richmond, VA ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Derek Tiffany tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, December 18 Universal Vibe 2 Wayne, NJ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Minnich Inhuman [might be able to offer a ride]Inhuman+@CMU.EDU Steve Hormell Fluffhead steveh@susq.edu Derek Tiffany [taking a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Daniel Philpott "FREElove" anarchy@eng.umd.edu Sarah Wayland Puple Lotus Sean Kelly plur [may have a pre] dekiyon@mindvox.phantom.com Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU James Sexton Jim [NEEDS CRASH SPACE] jsexton@psych.umass.edu Neith Love and Frogs! ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu Donato Donutz donato@world.std.com Becca becca@world.std.com Vanessa Jetta jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Kevin [friend of Becca's] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Countdown NYC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishad Quazi Fish [Angel-Fish :)] rquazi@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Melzie's Resolution Pre-party Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut :) melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Digital Druid, Cyberpun cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Hossam Sphinx hae2@po.CWRU.edu Woodrow Simmons The Sensitive Naked wsimmo1@gl.umbc.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE - Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Rob Rousseau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Xiola [CAN OFFER RIDE-VT DOWN] MH6221A@auvm.american.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] 6ANTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu David Darrow [w/ 2-4 friends and doing T's!] david.darrow@pics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Sweeney Hormon-E [may need a ride] jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Jen Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutxtown.edu David Darrow Selling T-shirts david.darrow@pics.com James Sexton Jim [NEEDS CRASH SPACE] jsexton@psych.umass.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Woodrow Simmons The Sensitive Naked wsimmo1@gl.umbc.edu Mark Machine Media [NEEDS RIDE-CT] 0005995336@mcimail.com Xiola [CAN OFFER RIDE-VT down] MH6221A@auvm.american.edu Francis Sibilla Fran fran@chopin.udel.edu Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE-Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NY] 6ANOTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu Rob Roussau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Derek Tiffany [organizing a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Tina Sun (flower) A1TCHAN@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Luke NEEDS RIDE FROM ROCHESTER ls010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu Chuck NED [NEEDS RIDE-CT] buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, January 6 Alchemy NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Mike Minnich Inhuman Inhuman+@CMU.EDU James Sexton Jim jsexton@psych.umass.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jake Melon Dezign melon@access.netaxs.com Jason Method-one LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Fran Sibilla fran@chopin.udel.edu Jen Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 20:03:09 1993 From: JWAITER@delphi.com Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 23:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Technics SL-1800's? Anybody have any info. on them? Status: A local paper for used goods has an entry for "two Technics SL-1800 MK-II's". Does anybody know how these are compared to the 1200's and 1210's? Thanks in advance. Jim (jwaiter@delphi.com). From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 21:11:15 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 00:07:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Boston People.... :) Status: I am being very impulsive::: tomorrow, friday morning, I am taking a bus to Boston to visit my friend. Last minute decision....She lives Duxbury, MA....I will be taking a 9 something bus...anybody want to get together? Call Erin, at (617) 585-4779, in the late afternoon...and when you are talking to her, ask her for Ira.... I"m suprising her, she's not expecting me. *he he he* -Akeera From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 23:35:21 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 02:34:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: pre-uniVibe meeting confusion? Status: On Thu, 16 Dec 1993, Laura La Gassa wrote: > Mars suggested meeting at the Pizza place after Will and I suggested > and posted directions for meeting at Ali Baba's in Hoboken. > > Okay kids, which will it be? We need to make a decision. See ya at Ali Baba's. :) That's where I will be. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 16 23:47:31 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 02:46:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: TIMEWARP II (fwd from geoffE) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1993 20:52:19 EST From: geoffE To: NE-Raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu Subject: TIMEWARP II Just wanted to post this before I left for Christmas. Happy New Year everyone!!! Fri. Feb. 11 TIMEWARP II $12 (215)433-0503 Allentown, Pa. DJ's: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London - Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-RAVES) *geoffE(NE-RAVES/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA - NYC) Remic(Vagabond - Philly) *Mark M(Stonewall/6 TURNTABLES WHIZZ) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill-Out *Will be doing a 2-hour set 10 P.M. - 6 A.M. Directions: Take the PA. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument At monument hang left Go through three lights You will see a "God Is Love" neon sign Hang the next left We're in the warehouses Peace, geoffE ---Fear not the DARK, Fear thyself--- GSC1@Lehigh.Edu From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 03:32:43 1993 From: SOLID_MATTER RECORDS Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 06:30 EDT Subject: Can anyone give me info on Countdown?? Status: I'll be in NYC on the 31st and I'd like to go to Countdown... Can anyone send me info on this Rave!!! Please?? BA From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 07:07:19 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 10:06:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: For those of you having trouble logging into vrave.... Status: The only thing I can think of is that for some reason the port number is not being passed along to the remote host. When you guys telnet to "sfraves.stanford.edu 7283", does it say something about vrave when you connect, or do you just get a unix login: prompt and no message? If it's the latter, that must be what's happening. All I can suggest is to email to the sysadm of your local system and ask how to telnet to a specific port of a machine. Perhaps you all have weird telnet executables. Good luck! --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 10:09:15 1993 From: panik@satalink.com (Panik) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 93 02:00:00 -0640 Subject: GOE III Status: In reference to my earlier post about a rumor I heard about the Horizon Group of Philly throwing GOE III, I withdraw that. It was an unfounded rumor that I heard (NOT started). Thanx to Melon for setting me straight and my apologies goes out to Nigel Richards and the Horizon Group. Peace in '94 Panik From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 13:15:58 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 16:15:36 -0500 Subject: verification Status: how does one get "verified?" for vraves? jim verge From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 20:25:29 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 23:25:12 -0500 Subject: then there was none Status: Hi. The last amherstite is going to bail out of Univibe2 :( too far, too much and too much work. we're just going to have our own little room rave here =) see ya at Resolution! jim-on-the-verge From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 20:28:43 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 23:28:28 -0500 Subject: rides to resolution (TAI? Akeera?) Status: WHo needs rides from the MA/NY area to resolution..? Tai and Akeera mentioned something i think... jim/verge From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 21:28:52 1993 From: mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Mary Kyrola O'Hagin) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 0:28:45 EST Subject: unsubscibe Status: please...going home for christmas unsubscribe me from this list... *tanx* mohagin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 17 21:43:03 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 21:42:51 -0800 Subject: Re: unsubscibe Status: To all of you going home for the winter break, to get off ne-raves do the following: mail majordomo@techno.stanford.edu and put unsu!scribe ne-raves in the body of the message. (REPLACE the ! with a b . . . if I wrote out the whole word here the list software would eat it and you wouldn't see this message at all). Laura From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 18 01:17:40 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1993 04:17:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: COUNTDOWN - NEW YEARS EVE (fwd from David A. Wolfe)) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1993 12:35:41 -0500 (EST) From: David A. Wolfe To: neraves Subject: COUNTDOWN - NEW YEARS EVE N A S A AND THE SHELTER FAMILY PRESENTS COUNTDOWN NEW YEARS ON TIMES SQUARE TENTATIVE DJ LINE UP DB - ONE - MR. KLEEN - JULZ (FRANCE) LIQUID SKY CREW - FRANKIE BONES INFOLINE 212-330-8233 800-357-1474 TICKETS $20 IN ADVANCE $25 THE DOOR AVAILABLE AT LIQUID SKY RECORDS AND PRIMAL RAVE IN NJ ONLY 500 OUT OF 1500 TICKETS AVAILABLE IN ADVANCE From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 18 02:17:02 1993 From: Rishad J. Quazi Date: Sat, 18 Dec 93 1:45:03 EST Subject: Essence IV pix Status: Hi kids, Your good fishy friend was able to take a grand total of 5 lovely pix of the Cybertribal folks noshing on Burmese chow before Essence IV. Unfortunately the friendly bastards at the Essence IV mega didn't let me bring in my camera, and almost wanted to confiscate my film too (!!Grr!!) so i don't have more pix to show you all. Here is a run-down of the pix: [1] table shot - ed, eileen, fluid, little bit of johnny T, phil, will, bob baxter, a bit of Chewies head, mykl G, and liz in the way back. [2] table shot - Mykl G and two Friends of Fran [3] close-up - Harry Wazzup Doc Duran [4] table shot - Jim (?), Liz and Fran [5] Phil, Eileen and Ed (with a Stussy hat!! :) Would anyone be kind enough to color-scan these in for us? I made an extra copy of the set, so whoever offers to scan them will get to keep a free copy of the pix for themself. Thanks. Peace, O ~ ~ o ~ ~ ~ . _/,_ ~ ~ ~ . /o...\__// FiSH ~ Rishad J. Quazi \_'__/``\` rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu ~ \` RQUAZI@SBCCVM.BITNET ~ . ~ ~ ~ ~ \/ . . . \ \/ . . ____\____._..___.____\/_______._ From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 18 23:59:33 1993 From: Edward Petelis Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1993 02:59:26 -0500 Subject: need ride from NYC to resolution Status: Hay, if anyone is heading down to resolution from NYC and can help out three wonderful and loving people. Please email me at petelis@eerie.acsu.buffalo.edu. We will gladly contribute to the gas funds. Email as soon as possible. Your friend, SUESS From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 03:25:30 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 06:25:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: First batch Status: I just mailed off my first batch of directons for the pre-thingy..... if anyone else wants to come, please mail me :) Tank ya... Melzie From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 09:19:31 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 12:17:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: FINALLY! (Read this, it is important) Status: Hey folks. Guess what. The ne-raves list is about to move, once again. :) I will have the whole thing ready on Wednsday, so be ready to make the transition in your aliases and address books by then. Just want to warn you. Dan Ps. Look for my article in the next issue of Slurp!, it is called NETherworld. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 10:37:48 1993 From: ad425@dayton.wright.edu (Jim Waiter) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 13:37:41 -0500 Subject: Re: FINALLY! Status: > Hey folks. Guess what. The ne-raves list is about to move, once again. :) Where? From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 11:12:57 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 14:12:44 EST Subject: my info... Status: Oops--I didn't get this info. to Melzie (?) soon enough, so here it is. I'll be in NJ (Summit) from 12/21-12/28 and can be reached at: (908) 273-2714 (ask for Vanessa...:) and then I'll be in Cambridge from 12/28-12/30 (please call me at 617-283-1944 and leave a message)-- I'll beogoing to Venus on Thu. (12/30) night, I'm pretty certain. And then.. 12/30-12/31 Newton (again, 617-283-1944) then 12/31-1/2 or so, RESOLUTION (hopefully!) I need a ride though, so I'm not sure about that... Guess that's it. January BOoM is soon to come out. Talk to you all soon! wfs jetta. From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 12:52:52 1993 From: IM5448%ALBNYVMS.bitnet@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 15:50:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Bye Bye family.... Status: Hi everybody.... alas, alas, tomorrow is my last day of net access.... :( Thank you Jen, (I think) for sending me the flyers/teasers for Alchemy. They are really nice. I'll _do_ the deed with them. I printed up info on Nasa's thingy on New Years eve....maybe I'll go to that, I have no plans for new years eve right now. (though there is a dime bag of marijuana calling my name. *evil grin*) I really do hope that somebody calls me with some plans for hanging out. I'll be free on weekends, with car access, and I would love to go chill in the city. One more time: Ira ----> (914) 356-4569 after 12/21. I'm jewish, so there's no christmas dinner for me. :P I won't unsubscribe until tomorrow afternoon after my last final, so if anybody does need to get in touch with me, I will be checking my mail tomorrow. -Akeera btw-thank you all for letting me join your community with open arms...I do feel like I will miss all this while I am home. or until Alchemy, at least. :) From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 20:49:57 1993 From: Phil Z Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 23:49:45 EST Subject: Universal Vibe Report Status: I could retitle this: how not to throw a party, but fortunately there's somewhat of a happy ending to this story. I'll bet not for everyone involved, since those who skipped the afterparty missed the best part of the night (er, day), but... WILL-E, Harry, Chaz, Fiend and I joined up with Jetta, Donato, Becca and Kevin at Ali Baba's in Hoboken, and after a nice meal with Laura (who was unable to attend the main party) drove off to arrive at The Skater's World Roller Rink in Wayne, NJ around the starting hour of 11:00. If you don't know, the promoter for this party was Alan Sanctuary (Limelight) and this was the second time that Skater's World was used for a sight. The party was heavily promoted in NYC, and shuttle buses were leaving from Liquid Sky (in the city) to bring the club kids in. The DJ set was the Primal Posse, which means Denard, James Christian, Jacquelyn Christie, etc. We were expecting a good night, if perhaps a bit clubby, and we were all psyched. We arrived slightly before 11 and scoped out the space- the setup work was definitely behind, as equipment and lights were still being installed, and the rink lights were up. We saw a sign that told us no food or beverages would be allowed, so we returned to the car and grudgingly stored our knapsacks. After checking out the pizza place (no ne-ravers in sight!) we went back into the entranceway to the rink to take our place in line. Comfortable in the warm entrance, our party was right at the head of the line and would be one of the first groups in. I had an advance sale ticket, so I expected (for once) to breeze right into the place. I felt good, the vibe was right; they were running late but things were going to be squared soon enough. The first sign of trouble was actually a sign posted above the main entrance that we assumed obviously pertained to the Wayne skating community. Lets see what I remember: no gum, no cigarettes, no foul language, no combs in hair, no tube tops, shirts required, no food, we can expel you if you're in bad taste. Now I agree with the combs in the hair, of course (not), but the rest of the list seemed extremely anal to me. Of incidental note, it seemed perfectly alright to bring in a weapon... Now I didn't take this seriously until one of the dj's came out and said that, essentially, these rules were in effect. I still didn't believe it- I'm a habitual gum chewer- and there was no way I'd go through a night without a couple of packs. Cigarettes were an even bigger issue, though- how can you throw a party like this and not let people smoke??!! Anyway, I heard one of the organizers say that "Alan is really pissed," which probably applied to the obvious Wayne townee rink owner, who looked like a dorky (albeit large) version of Stan Laurel, who started off the evening looking pissed off. More on this jerk in a bit... Next, some club-kid woman came out and said that all ticket holders had to go outside to the entrance next to the truck. A groan from all ticket holders went up, but we (Jetta, Donato, Becca, Kevin and about 20 others) dutifully followed instructions and went out into the cold by the door of the truck, where equipment was still being loaded in. The guy at the door looked at us in amazement and said quite clearly that he had no intention of letting us in there. We argued with him but after about 15 minutes we decided to go back to the original line, quite pissed off. Since then at least one bus had arrived and the line was *huge*. Donato and crew decided to hang in the pizza place, but I was too pissed off to relax, so I cut in line near the door and waited out the next 45 minutes or so compressed with *lots* of unhappy people. I missed the infamous food fight inside the the building when the rink dicks came out and said that no food of any kind would be allowed and that they meant it. I understand that it was actually quite frightening, because people were whipping coins around at full force! Anyway, after a long agonizing wait I got inside and rejoined my crew. By now I was pretty pissed but I got a locker, stowed my coat, and decided to dance. Let me make clear now that the intentions of the Primal Posse/Sanctuary were quite good and the party had all the right elements for an overpriced NYC-style event. The sound was excellent, with speakers distributed throughout the hall. The lighting was good, though the lasers should have been positioned in front of the dj's to have more effect. There was smoke and really good lights, and as the night progressed the rink became a great place to dance. That said, let me tell you about facism: My first hint of trouble was noted in the bathroom, where the rink prick (the guy who looked like Stan Laurel) was walking around looking at everyone piss. Seriously, he opened a stall door and looked in at some guy, presumably to make sure that nothing *illegal* was going on. He looked angry, which ticked me off, and I caught his eye in a very disapproving/hostile stare. Thinking back, that's probably why he remembered me (more on that...) Well, hoping he was a pervert at best, I went out to the dance floor and started working up a sweat (which doesn't usually take me long). Our group formed a sort of circle, and as other ne-ravers showed up (Mars, Jenn, Debba) we were really starting to enjoy ourselves. A guy with a flashlight kept coming around shining it everywhere, including in people's eyes, but we kept dancing trying to preserve the vibe. When the hardcore started we decided to wait it out, and headed over to the smart bar where we met up with DanFreeLove, Fluffhead, inhuman, and And-E and had a nice chat. At some point we wandered over to a chill space that they'd set up, with a film projector running (no computer graphics anywhere, and this projector kept getting blocked by people standing in the way...) As we were resting, a guy came through with a flashlight and shines it on a couple that were mildly making out; the guy made some comment then leaves. Someone lit up a joint and about 10 minutes after they'd finished it the flashlight guy came back and said loudly "ok, where's the joint- hand it over." Everyone looked innocently at him, and he left. What a joke... The hardcore over, we returned to dance, now to more trancey forms, and started hitting our stride. Now it feels about 100 degrees in the place, lots of people were dancing- we estimate that about 4,000 people arrived total- so Will and I took off our shirts. We're dancing about 10 minutes this way when the rink prick showed up and said to me "If I have to tell you again to put your shirt on you're out of here." Now, I hadn't been 'warned' about this before, nor so much as spoken to this dick, so I looked him firmly in the eye and asked why. It seemed that 'they' didn't want it (though I was sure it was *he* that didn't want it). I explained that it was very hot, and I didn't understand why I had to keep it on. He lamely said that it's a 'health hazard' to which I replied that it's more of a health hazard to sweat like this than to take off my shirt. He told me that everyone else was hot but they were dealing with it (?!). I don't think that I was being a dick, but this was absolutely ridiculous... By now he was mad and he grabbed my arm and said "come with me." I pulled back and he said "If you're going to give me trouble you can just leave" and he started over to Will. I again said hold on, started putting my shirt on, and said into Will's ear "This guy is a serious prick- just put your shirt on." That got rid of the asshole, but I was steaming. Nothing else of event happened for the rest of the night, at least not to us: when someone came and rudely interrupted Robbie Hardkiss to announce the location of the afterparty, he also mentioned, in a kind of low voice, that there would be no return shuttle because "we got fucked over." I feel sorry for the club kids stranded in Wayne; personally, I think Alan Sanctuary should have offered to drive each and every one of them personally in his own car... Jetta, Donato, Becca and Kevin returned to our place in the city, as the afterparty had been announced to be on W. 14th Street. When we arrived here we called Laura, who came over to join us (WILL-E, Fiend and myself) to go to the afterparty. Blissfully the space was the same space that Ambient Lounge uses (also home to Meat- sorry you missed it, Harry? :) We immediately took off our shirts, and danced to some excellent trance and experimental house from the likes of Mr. Kleen and Jaquelyne Christie. Jimmy Crash came on around 3:00 and spun oldies (everything from electro-funk to acid house), which was the perfect speed for my spent body. With the right location, the right vibe, the right people, and a nice dance floor (if a bit small), it pushed away many of my ill feelings from the night. The place was very relaxed, with no bouncers or body searches, and a totally underground feeling. We left around 3:30, picked up the resting crew at our apartment, ate at Bennies Burritos, and then WILL-E and I came home to fall flat on our faces for a much needed long sleep. Now I know that this was long, but I just had to get this off my chest. It's been a lot of years since I've been treated like I was in high school and I don't respond very well to that kind of treatment. During the night I was determined to write a post telling everyone to boycott Alan Sanctuary, but thankfully the Primal DJs put together all of the elements of a decent party, and perhaps Sanctuary and crew did not anticipate the prickishness of the rink owner. Wayne, NJ seemed, on exit, like a humble god-fearing town that shouldn't even toy with the idea of throwing a party with those of us living in the real world... I hope never to return there. Phil Z From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 20 21:28:56 1993 From: sss@netcom.com (Stefan Stasik) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 21:29:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Stefans new email address. Status: Hello All! I am writing to tell you of my OFFICAL address change, to a REAL (as some would say) or a CRYPTIC (as others would say..) op system. (unix) My NEW address to send me mail is SSS@NETCOM.COM Easy , hunh??? plus, i will probably get it! (unlike sometimes on woods..) I have done enough playing to become somewhat literate with 'elm', the user friendly mail program, and i have somewhat figured out vi, so this is somewhat fun! Plus, Ulowell's mail system is so screwed up, it goes down constantly delaying my mail. Thanks, and I will email you later!! - Stefan Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 04:04:24 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 07:04:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: resolution (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1993 11:42:08 -0500 (EST) From:humphrey@eos.ncsu.edu To: seraves list Cc: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: resolution i am in need of a ride from resolution to new jersey (or nyc would do) please let me know if you can give me one ///////////////////////////////////////////////////// ////////// john humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu /////// ///////// rainbow john_humphrey@ncsu.edu /////// //////// humphrey pgp key upon request /////// ///////////////////////////////////////////////// From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 07:58:54 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 10:58:44 EST Subject: January BOoM (Birthday-O-Matic) Status: ******************************************************************************* * NE/V-RAVES BIRTHDAY-O-MATIC (BOoM) * * January, 1994 * ******************************************************************************* 1/3/74 Chuck aka NED buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu 1/4/74 Jon Webb aka Wraith webbj@rpi.edu 1/7/72 Joe LeSesne aka Raver909 raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us 1/18/72 Oz Lubling aka Oz ol@cs.brandeis.edu 1/24/73 Nathan aka NET io20903@maine.maine.edu 1/24/74 Rob Rousseau aka Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu 1/28/73 John R. Humphrey aka rainbow jrhumphr@eos.ncsu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- That's it for this month. Happy New Year, everyone! And Happy B-days to you Jan. people... February b-days--please submit your b-day (mo/da/yr), name (opt), netname, and e-mail address to jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu. See you in 1994! wfs Jetta. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 08:31:41 1993 From: david.darrow@pics.com (David Darrow) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 93 22:27:00 -0500 Subject: UniVibe2 Status: Yeah, everyone was suprised to see me there, since I planned to go but was 99.44% sure that I *wasn't* going to make it, I din't post about it. BUT, jsquared dragged his crew up from Kentucky, through Columbus for a Friday night event, to my place in NJ, then up to Wayne's Skaters World for the shindig where we hawked the DELERIUM wares. Our estimates put the promoters profit WAY OUT THERE above the actual cost of the event. (Now how often does THAT happen?) But we did manage to get $3 (oooh, how generous) off our tickets, but not till WAY LATE in the morning, after they knew they'd made a mint. Also the search & seizure off ANY food item was kinda annoying, they wouldn't even let us bring in a moldy roast beef sandwich! I did bring blow-pops and JollyRanchers, but "no blow pops" was the word; and then they decided that the JR's were out of there, too, leaving the raving throngs sugar-starved, and me without any lunch money! Also, someone I talked to got the shake-down for having a bottle of vitamins, not because they thought they weren't vitamins, but because there was one of those suspect-looking little plastic moisture-absorbers that says "DO NOT EAT" on it. The word for that was: BUAHAHAHA! On the other hand, the vibe was, to blurt the oft-posted exclamation, PHAT! A *packed* house (only was too hot for an hour or so) of happy raving lunatics, a decent net-representation (mars, jenn, dan, me, j2, incomplete list), and plenty of variety (I like it!) in the beat department. I heard everything from ambient to factory-noise H/C and off on several tangents of breaks & tribal & trance in between. Now someone tell me, who was DJ on around 8am-10am spinning that totally funcky tribal-ish trance. I could not stop moving even though I had been too tired to dance all night! I WANT A MIX TAPE FROM THIS GUY-HE WAS AWESOME! Help me out folks. All-in-all, it was a good night. Great to hang out with j2 again; great to see the ne-raves folks in attendance; great to eat sausage & egg McMuffins and hurl at oncoming traffic! cy'all soon d3 `-{> P.L.U.R. e i n a n k p s g e l i u u n i g e n g t s e t d e s --- This copy of Freddie 1.2.5 is being mutilated. ---- +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pics OnLine MultiUser System 609/753-2540 HST 609/753-2605 (V32bis) | | Massive File Collection - Over 45,000 Files OnLine - 250 Newsgroups | +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 12:36:43 1993 From: steveh@susq.com (Steve Hormell) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 93 15:35:34 EST Subject: Merry Christmas from Barney! 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Thanks. _______ (__,-, \ / /\ \ f l u i d /,_) \ \ (/ \\ brit@bach.udel.edu \) flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 13:27:27 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 13:27:13 -0800 Subject: Re: Alchemy stuff.. Status: Jenn posted this message about a week or so ago: >Date: Thu, 9 Dec 1993 14:53:21 -0500 (EST) >From: "Jennifer J. Smeddy" >Subject: leaving school >To: Michael J Minnich >Cc: dcraves >Message-Id: >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Sender: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >Status: RO > > >well that semester is over nextt thursday so i will not be checking my >mail for a month :( > >so! if anyone would like to get a hold of me you can beep me at: >1.800.374.4434 ext 20051 or 215.998.9650 :) > >also! if anyone would like to send me their phone number so i can get a >hold of you (you know who you are) please send them to me before next >tuesday :) ) > >peace, > >jennifer smeddy >jenn-bug Jenn is overseeing Alchemy promotion for all areas outside of New York City and Rockland County, NY. Will gave her about 4500 flyers either last week or the week before. Please try to contact her for flyers, as I only have about 200 myself. Thanks, Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 20:11:08 1993 From: SOLID_MATTER RECORDS Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 23:09 EDT Subject: Is anyone going to Countdown?? Status: Hi Everyone, I'm thinking about going to Countdown on the 31st. Is anyone else thinking of going??? B From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 20:46:40 1993 From: Jennifer J Leibhart Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 23:44:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Is anyone going to Countdown?? Status: I think that I'm heading to Resolution..........-Jenn From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 22:36:07 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 01:35:13 EST Subject: Evolution Status: On 12-8, David L. Bayer wrote: THere is a need for something to be new and different. I certainly agree and feel that rave fans & raves are analogous to the Grateful Dead fans & their concerts. Many Grateful Dead fans go to their concerts to hear their tunes performed in a new way and as I have witnessed firsthand, many actually write down the playlist for the evening and compare to other playlists from other Dead concerts they've been to. Furthermore, no matter how much the media tries to sensationalize and generate controversy over Dead concerts & raves, it seems most people who follow the Dead clear across the country are not doing it for drugs (they can get them in their own town), but for the experience. Likewise while there are different reasons for attending raves, the biggest reason I know of is for the vibe, the culture, & the experience. If all raves played the same songs the same way, we would be in the mindset of many radio stations that regurgitate the same songs hour after hour, leading to a very stale lack of musical variety. The many musical substyles of rave itself yield an unprecedented variety of listening yumminess. When you add the many different mixes of an individual song, not just from the minds of the original writers but also the added creativity of DJs, coupled with the fact that techno/rave is changing so fast, you have a style that evolves faster than any other style of music I know of. Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 21 22:36:16 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 01:35:22 EST Subject: Re: Smartdrinks, Supplements, DSHE, and you Status: Phil Z's post: Part of what's going on is the FDA's response to a batch of tryptophan that came in to the country from an unscrupulous Japanese firm. The material was tainted, and caused a few people to die and a number to get sick. Milk contains tryptophan, but you don't see it being pulled from store shelves to protect it from being tainted. I agree that stricter requirements are a must in verifying marketing claims, but pulling anything off the shelf reveals to me a weakness in the government in their ability to regulate supplements, as well as an infringement of our personal freedom. More news coming up. Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 01:13:35 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 04:13:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Universal Vibe Report (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1993 07:30:48 -0500 (EST) From:ebh@summit.com To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: Universal Vibe Report > If you don't know, the promoter for this party was Alan Sanctuary > (Limelight) and this was the second time that Skater's World was used > for a sight. This is what is so weird about it - After the first party at Ron-a-roll in CT, I could see the owner there being as fascistic as he was the first time. But Sputnik II was nothing like what everyone's saying about UniVibe. At S2, there were cops throughout the place all night, but they generally were very cool and left people alone. We were allowed to bring in whatever we wanted, and at least at the snack-bar tables, one could smoke with impunity. All I can guess is that Skater's World must have changed owners or something, because the original owner would have known full well what a rave crowd was like, and if he didn't like the way we acted at S2, he would never have agreed to hold another rave there. (Also, if there were no police present, it makes me wonder if the owner's rela- tionship with them hasn't deteriorated somewhat in the year since S2.) In any case, sorry y'all were hassled so much, but I doubt any of us will be subjected to that particular venue's policies again any time soon. :( -Ed From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 03:34:02 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 06:33:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Something scary.... Status: Okay...this is something scary that happened to me yest... Two buddies of mine that attend highschool are in this pop-psych class there together... The other day the teacher showed a video about raves and how it' the "new highscool thing to do" and it included within the video and discuccion of how we're just needy children looking to rebel against society and such..... They called me because they want to go.....it I suppose, intrigued them.... when I mentioend that Reslution would be just in their hometown...Laurie replied, "But don't you have to be 21 to get into those places?" As I giggled and shrugged....she'll think about it she said. I'm sorry, but this whole thing made me sick to my stomach....that they feel like they have to start teaching highschool aged children that we are "evil" and such.... Melzie aka Doesn't it just KISS ya! -Tony and Tina's Wedding From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 06:14:16 1993 From: David Sarcastic Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 09:05:20 -0400 (EST) Subject: Re: Something scary.... Status: On Wed, 22 Dec 1993, Mel-zo-rama wrote: > Okay...this is something scary that happened to me yest... > Two buddies of mine that attend highschool are in this pop-psych class > there together... The other day the teacher showed a video about raves > and how it' the "new highscool thing to do" and it included within the > video and discuccion of how we're just needy children looking to rebel > against society and such..... I remember when that 48 hrs. episode about LSD was on, and a teacher at school showed it and tried to prevent a similar lesson, i guess, raves=drugs=bad. I tried to reason with her, but it didn't work. Also last year, a local TV news show had an "undercover" report on how the rave scene in Philadelphia was just an unsafe, unsavory pipeline to racial trouble because all that raves were were lots of rich suburban youths coming into the city and taking advantage of people in neighborhoods where they didn't belong. Teachers in school asked me, condescendingly, things like, "you're not one of those 'ravers', are you?" and I'd just grin and nod. Yes, it truly worries me that the authority-figure party line is that "raving is what the bad kids do" but I think that also kids who are into it enough won't be fooled by that. I dunno. This is scary. .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... ..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 07:20:47 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 10:20:04 EST Subject: Re: Something scary.... Status: > From: Mel-zo-rama > I'm sorry, but this whole thing made me sick to my stomach....that they > feel like they have to start teaching highschool aged children that we > are "evil" and such.... What's _really_ scary is the fact that these are people from *our* generation spewing this filthy propaganda to "highschool aged children". As if highschool, elementary, college and every other person in this society isn't inundated with enough of that crap from the true and righteous of the older generation. dave. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 07:59:06 1993 From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 08:02:18 -0800 Subject: Re: Something scary....(LONG) Status: >On Wed, 22 Dec 1993, Mel-zo-rama wrote: > >> Okay...this is something scary that happened to me yest... >> Two buddies of mine that attend highschool are in this pop-psych class >> there together... The other day the teacher showed a video about raves >> and how it' the "new highscool thing to do" and it included within the >> video and discuccion of how we're just needy children looking to rebel >> against society and such..... > >I remember when that 48 hrs. episode about LSD was on, and a teacher at >school showed it and tried to prevent a similar lesson, i guess, >raves=drugs=bad. I tried to reason with her, but it didn't work. Also >last year, a local TV news show had an "undercover" report on how the rave >scene in Philadelphia was just an unsafe, unsavory pipeline to racial >trouble because all that raves were were lots of rich suburban youths >coming into the city and taking advantage of people in neighborhoods where >they didn't belong. > Teachers in school asked me, condescendingly, things like, "you're >not one of those 'ravers', are you?" and I'd just grin and nod. > Yes, it truly worries me that the authority-figure party line is >that "raving is what the bad kids do" but I think that also kids who are >into it enough won't be fooled by that. > I dunno. This is scary. > > >.........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... >..........."i'm a pisces who likes to drink iced teas" - grand puba............ >...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... Hi Dave, Unfortunately,this is the oldest story in the world, and also why a lot of "the Establishment"'s warnings on hard drug abuse fall on deaf ears later.. Out here in California,its funny to think of those warnings while looking through the parked cars at say, a FMR.A very surprisingly large number of Bay Area 'ravers' -suprise, have interesting jobs in interesting fields and contribute- strongly,to the local economy.We don't realize the impact we have had in myriad areas.Just look at venues like the Fashion Center and the money THEY have made off raves..Lots, and for a consistantly long period of time..(Several nightclub owners have told me that they are one of the healthiest areas of SF/Bay Area nightlife..which right now is _very_ weak..)This media response is a fearful response to a new social phenomenon.Key- something they _dont understand_.Of course,like everything else,like racism,for example..its mostly fear out of lack of knowledge..Sure,there are always going to be losers drawn to any scene that has a lot of dionysian energy..How many alcoholics did you see today...?The number of people killed at raves or directly as a result of rave activity is _suprisingly small_ considering the huge number of people attending them..For a comparison,look at sports events or big rock concerts.. Do you see what I mean..? On the other hand..there are a LOT.. of very positive aspects to come out of ravedom..When the rave thing first started here in SF it was a totally positive youth experience..Sexually and racially diverse crowds..complete "user participation"..lots of interesting technology...How many of those kids went away from our parties with lots of good warmth and creative energy, and maybye even little tidbits like newfound interests in computers.. This is a tangibe benefit.. We are pioneers in a _very_ real sense and don't let anyone try to make you forget it.Almost every active "raver" I know out here has done something important for their community..We may not realize the influence we have.. I can't speak for anyone other than myself,but I feel a tremendous responsibility to the world community to use the rave vehicle to dissolve international barriers and social problems.(One of the main things I am interested in is amino acid therapies for drug treatment..an area that shows real promise..for example..)Or look at the international aspect...Did anyone hear the section on the Russian ravers on NPR the other day.?We are all over the world.. My friend Connie Yee throws raves in Tokyo,Japan. There are ravers in Canada,Finland.. As we on the net know..Australia,New Zealand,South America,Hawaii,all of Europe is able to understand the experience..Look at the fashion world..Where do you think designers get their fashion "ideas"? :) And look at things like Martin's (The Gathering,Basics,etc.) online clothing catalog,produced in HTML and accessible by Mosaic.. (by Geoff with help from Bri.).Or my brain nutrient drinks..This technology is our ocean,we swim in it..Without thinking..This is significant.We don't see this,because we are immersed in it.. And, as President Kennedy said in his "ask not what your country can do for you" speech.. "We shall win..!" Raving,more than any other new kind of music now,is an international lifestyle..And its one that is apolitical in the traditional sense..ignores racial and class divisions, and revels in the ecstasy of the _dance_a powerful group-bonding experience. The low consumuptive,ecological,globally conscious lifestyle is exactly what is needed to bring the human race,together,to the stars and beyond. -Chris. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 09:23:11 1993 From: goldbn@rpi.edu (nate goldbaum) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 12:23:02 -0500 Subject: unsubscibing Status: Well, folx i'm finally done w/ finals and will be leaving the east coast for home (Chicago). so i am getting off the list (no point in keeping up, and all that mail...). I'll be back with y'all in mid-january. I hope to meet a hell of a lot of you at Subterranean!! If anyone wants to contact me, I will still have email access (goldbn@rpi.edu) after Dec 30th (when I get home from VA) Also, my phone no. (again, after the 30th) is 708/256-1444 peace ev'body! merry christmas and all that good stuff!! *hugs* nate -- nate goldbaum goldbn@rpi.edu =============================================================================== if mostpeople were to be born twice they'd improbably call it dying-ee cummings who would be born must first destroy a world. --hermann hesse i don't want the world, i just want your half. --they might be giants ========================================================================= From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 10:57:05 1993 From: Joe LeSesne Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 13:55:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Something scary... (fwd) Status: > Yes, it truly worries me that the authority-figure party line is > that "raving is what the bad kids do" but I think that also kids who are > into it enough won't be fooled by that. > I dunno. This is scary. You know I wouldn't be so worried about this. What would worry me more is if raves got the "Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval". Kids are naturally drawn to "bad stuff" so if anything this little disinformation campaign will backfire and we will be seeing a large influx of new blood into our scene. It will be up to us to show them it is not what they have seen in those sensationalized reports. I am glad to see this happen. I'm still waiting for the National PTA and Pat Robertson to come down hard on raves. When that happens you know we're about to see another explosion of the scene. Joe |--------------------------1-8-7_____________Wicked_Rides_to_the_Darkside____ | Jungle/Darkness/Hard Acid *live* PAs (performances)_ |__________________email raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us for bookings&demo_____ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 11:34:03 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 14:32:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: UniVibe & onward Status: **NOTE: important info on Resolution crash space at the end Univibe was definitely not a great party. I think the most annoying thing about the whole evening was that I had paid $22 at the door for it. This party was about half as big as and about ten times worse than all those Catastrophic parties last year that got us angry for charging $15. The only rave I paid more for than UniVibe was Ultraworld's Wild, but that was only $25 dollars and it lasted three days with a swimming pool, gyrobix, camping, etc. So I guess I have only myself to thank for actually shelling out $22 for Alan Sanctuary's car payments, but it doesn't have to make me happy. Besides that, all the major points have been hit. Security sucked. Lighting was mediocre at best. The sound system was on the weak side, too spread out. I got there to hear all of Frankie's set, which wasn't really what I wanted to hear (happy cheezy hardcore). Micro came on next, and was pretty good. Some good dark trance, busting out some of my current favorites. I may be getting the order mixed up, but after him came some guy I didn't recognize who played more trance that I wasn't really into. James Christian came on next, I think. The first half of his set was not very good, rife with beatmatching errors. But once he got going, he grooved into some deep house that really got me moving for the second half of his set. I think it was Wink who came on next and totally sent me into orbit. Around that time I lost track of time and space and drifted off into trance-sleep until we left around eight. What made the night actually enjoyable was Jenn showing up on my doorstep with Dan, when I thought she was in Pittsburgh. Wow! Talk about surprise... So if nothing else, that made the night worthwhile. :) So anyway, I know tons of people are coming down from all over for Resolution. Hopefully us DC-ravers can find you all crash space so that you can be semi-conscious when you drive back home. I think the plan is for a lot of us to head back to Ben Jaffe's house after Resolution & breakfast/afterparty/whatever to crash. Ben Jaffe, you'll recall, is a former-ne-raver and my partner in crime for Mobile Grooves Posse back in June. He's going to Reed now, out in Oregon, but is back for the holidays. He's a got a huge room in the basement of his house with enough crash space for maybe 10-15 people. We certainly had more than that many after MGP. By the way, this is in DC, about an hour away from Baltimore. So far I know Chris & Jeannie are crashing there, along with some delegation from Pittsburgh I'm sure. So if you want a place to crash too, email me and I'll try to get you back to Ben's house after the party. This is gonna be wikked... Also: the Wundervan *will* be making a journey to Resolution! Keep your eyes peeled for the colorful VW bus with the ne-raves sticker on the bumper! --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 11:59:28 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Wed, 22 Dec 93 14:49:23 CST Subject: Subterranean I Status: Hey boyz and girlz ! Deviants and deviantesses ! It is I, goldenboy, once again with another update on my little party :) When I first came up with the idea, it was to have a small private party. Then things seemed to escalate into a rave of considerable proportions. Well I dont want that. Essentially I want it to be a private-rave, so to speak. Approximately 40-50 net-people and friends have told me that they wanted to come and there'll probably be 30 or so locals that come...so thats about 80 or so people...this is cool for me. I've found a space. :) Its right next door (actually same building) to my place...so what we are going to do is hold it in both places downstairs. Theres a hall way connecting the two doors...so we'll be able to have at least 2 rooms. Which was my original intention. The girl that runs the shop (Wildflower...cafe/boutique) is a sweetie and she'll really work with me on this...so we are in business. Heres what I'm going to do...I'm going to have business cards made up (2 kinds...net and non-net)...it'll be $5 for the cybertribe and $8 for others...this way I'll be able to cover costs :) So those of you that are coming for certain, make sure you send me e-mail with your address. So that I may in turn send you a card or cards. There are a number of people coming from the same city or cities that are either close or on the way. If you see someone listed as a person that needs a ride PLEASE INQUIRE ! I want all of you to come...and it would help if some could come together. If you can give one or two people a ride...LET ME KNOW ! Steve aka fluff is interested in setting up a bus trip from Philly...if anyone is interested or would benefit...PLEASE E-MAIL ME !! This a list of people that are coming or considering coming. NAME HANDLE LOCATION DJ/PA RIDES **** ****** ******** ***** ********** damian dieselBoy Pittsburg, PA dj todd ~ Columbus, OH PA joe raver909 Pittsburg, PA PA stephen stephen Youngstown, OH dj/PA chris cmellow Vermont (?) dj ed djslip (?), NJ dj eileen mrs.slip :) (?), NJ dave walker Detroit, MI dave miller Columbus, OH andrew &-droo Cincinnati, OH steven white Milwaukee yes john hohlstrand Oberlin, OH andy SPeCiMen (?), MI dj mike brown mikeb Columbus, OH dj jerry haws j^2 Lexington, KY david bayer Boston needs krys dauchy china Cleveland, OH chris kozup Athens, OH needs marshal mars (?), NJ dj dave moxon Oberlin, OH hossam sphix Egypt :) boris (?), Wisconson matt fresh blend Nashville, TN dj michael carney Columbus, OH jen Madison, WI needs greg winer (?) michael butler johnny quest Cincinnati, OH needs charles noel (too long) :) Columbus, OH PA will WILL-E (?), NJ dj needs mike snuggles (?) dj natalijah natlija Milwaukee, WI steve fluffhead (?) chuck sINISTER Bowling green, OH michael inhuman Pittsburg, PA colin bossen Cleveland, OH tony ramos Columbus, OH bruce krysiak Columbus/Boston needs (?) kumquat Boston, MA needs mary sasha Cincinnati, OH vanessa jetta Boston, MA needs neith love&frogs Boston, MA boris (?) dan frederiksen Milwaukee, WI needs steve hormell fluff Philly, PA debba debba Philly, PA jim Dayton, OH can give ride brian knowles hop Athens, OH ted bear cyberchrist Bowling Green, OH can give ride brandt slowdog Bowling Green, OH needs nate goldbaum nattie Troy, NY phil phil-Z (?), NJ john williams bill frain Chicago, IL fiend Bayonne, NJ needs michelle michelle Pittsburg, PA can give ride jay soysos Purdue needs kathy zoomusicgirl (?) jen smeddy jenn-bug Allentown, PA needs julian casper Chicago, IL needs bruce krysiak Delaware, OH joe pitassi speed racer Providence, RI needs PEACE TO THE CYBERTRIBE ! ======================================================================= goldenboy deb9@pop.cwru.edu deb9@scl.cwru.edu "Is this to test if I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard ?" -Bladerunner From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 12:18:50 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 15:15:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 12/22/93) Status: =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Not much of anything happening this weekend, being Christmas and all. I'm sure you all will find something to occupy your time. :) Just look forward to next weekend: Resolution! Email me if you need crash space in DC on New Year's. -inhuman _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion or calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@summit.novell.com so she can share it with the Technopolis list. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 12/31/93 - RESOLUTION - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 7031 12/31/93 - FUSION - New York City, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 12/31/93 - COUNTDOWN - Times Square, NY - (800) 357 - 1474 12/31/93 - PHASE II @ - Long Island, NY - (516) 242 - 1773 01/08/93 - ALCHEMY - Rockland Cnty, NY - (908) 572 - 0259 01/15/94 - SYNERGY - New York City - (212) 631 - 3614 01/29/94 - POSITIVE ENERGY - Long Island, NY - (516) ??? - ???? 01/29/94 - GALAXY - Washington, DC - (202) 466 - 1692 02/06/94 - THERMONUCLEAR EVENT - Washington, DC - (202) ??? - ???? 02/11/94 - TIME WARP II @ - Allentown, PA - (215) 433 - 0503 02/12/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 7031 RESOLUTION Ultraworld Presents R E S O L U T I O N Friday December 31, 1993 New Year's Eve $20.00 US 333 WINK MICRO DJSUN JASON JINX SCOTT HENRY DAVE TRANCE LEIVEN DeGEYNDT WHO M-GEE SAMEER RYDE ONIONZ TOM T 12 hours of high energy GYROBIX techno tribal breakbeat MOONBOUNCE trance and hard acid SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE 2 lasers, giant screen GIANT VIDEO GAMES projection by ENO-ONE -- MELON DEZIGN 9 hours of ambient bliss to space your head featuring film lasers projections by projections by P.A.W.N DOUBLE HELIX oblivion lights by RETINAL BLOWJOB Ambient DJ's - wash, entity, john hicks, wordmosesripple and a special live performance by THE ALMIGHTY SENATORS smart bar by neuro-energy drink the water juice bar advance tickets on sale from dec 6th from: modern music balto 410.523.1882 open till 10:30 pm on 12/31 music now DC 202.638.1213 " " 9:30 pm on " loaded nyc 212.533.8463 call for hours 611 records philly 215.413.9100 call for hours checkered past harrisburg 717.561.8898 call for hours eddie van raven long island 516.925.2546 (pager, enter code 94) dezel boston 617.541.4258 bus trips: maine simon 207.871.8216 manhattan mello 212.631.4290 nh/vt nikki b 603.437.7795 nj/ny e-force 201.295.1925 vt mothership 802.860.7545 nj scooter 212.631.1033 connecticut warped 203.454.6643 philly thc 215.923.433 boston desel 617.541.4258 delaware zenith 302.764.9272 albany big dipper 518.465.6381 cleveland funky gizmos 216.238.1451 long island kort and greg 516.581.5426 richmond trance-fused 804.768.2000 montreal dna 514.854.6446 brooklyn dennis the menace 718.375.1954 call 410.880.7031 to find out about many additions to this list. call 410.522.6933 if you want to organize a bus or buy your ticket at the door ($25.00) .. here are the directions take 95 to baltimore. at the balto beltway (695) go west towards towson. take exit 34 - 83 north to timonium, get off at exit 16 east..timonium rd. cross the railroad tracks make a left into the first entrance, you can't miss it! admission: $20 in advance $25 at the door bus trips vary this event will reach capacity .. get your ticket early :) doors open 9:00 pm. after hours begins at 10:00 am, Sunday. DJ's T.B.A. MAIN INFO LINE: 410.880.7031 updates, communications, suggestions about the space: 37000 sq ft in 3 rooms, super-high ceilings, smooth clean dance floor, bathrooms like a YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER stadium, lit parking lot right in front, TO ENTER!!!!!! coat check, pay phones, A/C or heat on demand (wow!) .. 100 RAVE guaranteed :) merchants welcome: call 410.522.6933 for info Fresh Media 410.522.6933 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 3299 FUSION New Year's Party at the Newburgh Skate-park $15 9pm-9am DJs: Frankie Bones (Brooklyn) Overload (Maine) James Christian (Manhattan) Nigel Richards (Philadelphia) Osheen (Rhode Island) Scott Richmond (Fusion) Mr Kleen (Fusion) Joeski (Manhattan) Rio (Manhattan) Sprout (Fusion) Sponsored by WDST 100.1/96.9 FM Radio Woodstock: The New Direction Listen to the Underground Dance Experience Saturday Nights 12-3 am Directions: **From East and West take I-84 to exit 10s. At the light make a right on to 9W South. After crossing Broadway (17K) go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson St. 100 yards to skate park. **From N&S take Taconic to Rt. 84 and follow directions listed above or take I-87 to exit 17. Bear left to light and make a left onto 17K. Go down 10 lights to Rt. 9W South and make a right. Go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson Rd. Skate park on left. Trains: From New York City (Grand Central) take Metro North to Beacon: trains depart at 7:48 pm, 8:55, 10:01, 11:15, 12:20, 1:15, 1:20, 2:50. Free shuttle to and from the event. Big Dipper Albany Bus: 518-465-6381 INFO: 212-465-3299 914-463-9350 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 TIMES SQUARE, NYC (212) - 330 - 8233 COUNTDOWN (800) - 357 - 1474 NEW YEARS ON TIMES SQUARE TENTATIVE DJs: DB / ON-E / MR. KLEEN / JULZ (FRANCE) LIQUID SKY CREW / FRANKIE BONES INFOLINE 212-330-8233 / 800-357-1474 TICKETS $20 IN ADVANCE $25 THE DOOR AVAILABLE AT LIQUID SKY RECORDS AND PRIMAL RAVE IN NJ ONLY 500 OUT OF 1500 TICKETS AVAILABLE IN ADVANCE _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 242 - 1773 PHASE II @ New Year's 92-93 Caffeine set a new standard in club culture with the East Coast's first 48 hour rave. Now prepare yourself for PHASE II, 48 HOURS OF PURE PANDEMONIUM, with DJ's: MICRO * BOB BENTLEY * SAMEER * OMAR * FRANKIE BONES * THAT KID CHRIS * SPACE ACE * D.N.A. * THE CREATOR * DAVE TRANCE * HAPPY * SCOPE * LUIS * TEDDIE C. ...plus 10 surprise DJs to be announced! open bar until 1994, free champagne toast Infolines: Caffeine 516-242-1773 Kort & Greg 516-547-7118 Trepp 212-629-1960 Doors Open 9PM $20 covers admission for both nights! Complimentary Bed & Breakfast And Buffet! L.I.E.: Exit 52 S (Commack Rd) at Grand Blvd (corner 7-11) make left 1/2 mile on right. Southern State: Exit 39N (Rt 231) to Commack Rd 1 mile make right onto Grand Blvd (corner 7-11). Penn Station: Ronkonkoma branch to Deer Park leaving at 10:14, 11:14, 12:15, 1:14, 2:46, 5:14, free shuttle to Caffeine. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 8 ROCKLAND COUNTY, NY (908) 572 - 0259 ALCHEMY Technopolis presents * A * L * C * H * E * M * Y * the science of sound + the magic of dance DJs: Hazard (wbrs 100.1, Waltham -- east/west acid/trance) Oz (Boston -- trance) Tom (New York -- hard house beats) Chad e (Generation -- progressive/house) Laura (Back to Basics/Timewarp -- brain tweaking tunes) Mars (Timewarp/Knowledge -- hard trance) WillE (New Jersey -- phat UK house) Darshan (The Abyss -- acid/progressive) Sprockett (Entropic/The Abyss -- acid jazz) Location and Tickets: 1/2 hour north of the George Washington Bridge 10 pm to 7 am / Tickets are $7, sold only at the door INFO: Technopolis 908.572.0259 / ZOOM 215.998.9650 Gearhead(MA) 617.352.6939 / Gearhead(NY) 518.463.2548 Directions: Get yourself to the intersection of the New York State Thruway (I-87/287) and the Palisades Parkway (hint, this is near the Rockland County side of the Tapanzee Bridge). * Palisades Parkway North to Exit 11. * At light at bottom of ramp go left. * At very next light go left. * Count 5 lights. At the 5th light turn left and make an immediate left into the parking lot. ** You will know you are at the right place because when you get to the 4th light you will see a red and white movie theater style sign on the left that says RAGE. The site itself is the old movie theater in the back of the parking lot. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 NEW YORK CITY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY SYNERGY Combined Energy * United Force * An Oracle Production January 15, 1994 * Information 212.631.3614 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 29 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 466 - 1692 GALAXY Thermonuclear productions presents Galaxy. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 6 WASHINGTON, DC (???) ??? - ???? THERMONUCLEAR EVENT (to be named) DJ's =========== DMITRY (Dee-lite) Guy DMC Jason jinx SPEED DEMON and a few others and others to be announced _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 11 ALLENTOWN, PA (215) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II @ $12 DJs: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London-Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-Raves) *geoffE(NE-Raves/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA-NYC) *Remic(Vagabond-Philly) Mark M(Stonewall/6 turntable display!!!) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill Out *Will be doing a 2-hour-set* 10p.m. - 6 a.m. Directions: Take the Pa. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument. At the monument hang a left and go through three lights. 10 feet before the fourth light you will see a God Is Love sign in lights. Hang the next left and it's in the warehouses. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Mello & Primary Productions present R E D February 12 1994 Valentines Weekend Boston 617.541.4258 N.Y.C. 212.631.4290 READY??? _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 12:39:38 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 15:36:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOM-1 Status: **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Countdown NYC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishad Quazi Fish [Angel-Fish :)] rquazi@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Melzie's Resolution Pre-party Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut :) melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Digital Druid, Cyberpun cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Scott Borst Scottbo scott@tox.nlm.nih.gov Jeanne Finks Jeannie jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu Chris Cmellow Hossam Sphinx hae2@po.CWRU.edu Woodrow Simmons The Sensitive Naked wsimmo1@gl.umbc.edu Sandi [With her friends] sandi@bach.udel.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE - Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Rob Rousseau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Xiola [CAN OFFER RIDE-VT DOWN] MH6221A@auvm.american.edu Peter Johanson [With his friend Rob :) ] peter@cs.umbc.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] 6ANTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu David Darrow [w/ 2-4 friends and doing T's!] david.darrow@pics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Sweeney Hormon-E [may need a ride] jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Scott Borst Scottbo scott@tox.nlm.nih.edu Sandi [With her friends] sandi@bach.udel.edu Jen Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutxtown.edu David Darrow Selling T-shirts david.darrow@pics.com James Sexton Jim [NEEDS CRASH SPACE] jsexton@psych.umass.edu Edeward Petelis Suess [NEEDS RIDE FOR 3-NY] petelis@acsu.buffalo.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Jeanne Finks Jeannie jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu Chris Cmellow John Humphrey Humphrey [NEEDS RIDE-NY/NJ] humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Peter Johanson [with his friend Rob :) ] peter@cs.umbc.edu Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Woodrow Simmons The Sensitive Naked wsimmo1@gl.umbc.edu Mark Machine Media [NEEDS RIDE-CT] 0005995336@mcimail.com Xiola [CAN OFFER RIDE-VT down] MH6221A@auvm.american.edu Francis Sibilla Fran fran@chopin.udel.edu Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE-Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NY] 6ANOTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu Rob Roussau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Derek Tiffany [organizing a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Tina Sun (flower) A1TCHAN@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Luke NEEDS RIDE FROM ROCHESTER ls010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu Chuck NED [NEEDS RIDE-CT] buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, January 6 Alchemy NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Mike Minnich Inhuman Inhuman+@CMU.EDU Robert Campbell Rob [4 SPACES IN CAR] robcamp@WELL.SF.CA.US James Sexton Jim jsexton@psych.umass.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jake Melon Dezign melon@access.netaxs.com Jason Method-one LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Fran Sibilla fran@chopin.udel.edu Jen Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 13:17:26 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 13:17:03 -0800 Subject: HOM-1 correction Status: Melzie writes: >Friday, January 6 Alchemy NYC Please note: January 6 is a Thursday. ALCHEMY is SATURDAY, January *8* The location is 1/2 hour north of NYC. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 22 22:18:37 1993 From: Sjakie Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 01:12:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: what is the prob? Status: quoting from vrave logon screen: last word about SNOWBALL... the previous 'report' was erroneous and p.o.'d certain people. here is the corrected version: What could have been so erroneous there that pissed ``SOMEBODY'' off? Just wondering... P.S. certainly not me... From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 23 04:34:15 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 07:33:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: vrave (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 15:49:50 -0500 (EST) From: Sandra L Van Aken To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: vrave hey everyone, i have been having alot of trouble with vrave lately and i have no clue as to why?? i really want to get this fixed so i can talk to all of you... so if anyone could help me..i t would be greatly appreciated... thanks :) p.l.u.r. sandy merry christmas and a happy new year From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 23 04:35:22 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 07:35:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Subterranean I (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1993 21:31:16 -0600 (CST) From: Gregory Richard Mitchell To: goldenboy Cc: ne-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu, v-raves@gnu.ai.mit.edu, pb-cle-raves@telerama.pgh.pa.us Subject: Re: Subterranean I Need invites for three and directions to Subterranean; may volunteer rides from Dayton OH. Greg, "You're at a banquet...; the entree consists of boiled dog.":BR Greg From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 23 04:44:51 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 07:39:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Ooops Status: Hey all. I told you folks that we would be moving the NE Raves site this last Wednsday. Well.. I changed my mind. I still have the site, but I suddenly realized that I wouldn't be able to oversee the transition and make sure that everything went smoothly as I would be away on vacation at that point (and only have sporadic internet access). Another consideration was that the listserv admins would be off on christmas break and I wouldn't have any support during that transition. I asked for, and thankfully received, an extention on our stay at the most generous techno.stanford.edu. We will be moving over to the UMD site when I get back, we still have access and such, but I just want to make sure everything goes well. Sorry if I got your hopes up, but it is going to be happening around the 10th or so (after I recover from Alchemy and Cali.). Dan PS Check out my column in Slurp!, NETherworld. The first peice is basically a foundation, introducing us to the rest of the rave population. Alot of you hardcore mofo's got a quick mention/plug in there. As promised, the site for NE Raves is not mentioned, only my address. "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | bhilpott@wam.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 23 15:11:34 1993 From: jsexton@psych.umass.edu Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1993 18:11:20 -0500 Subject: bye! Status: i just (tried to ) unsubcribed from ne-raves for break. hope to see ya all when i get back. jim/verge HAVE A SILLY SOLSTICE! whatever. From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 24 03:48:23 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 06:39:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: The 24th, revisted! Status: I found something going on on the 24th. Don't know much about it, at all. The flier is wonderfully minimalist, and I don't know if this is an open party or if it is just something invite. I just ended up with the flier/passport (admit 2 free) in my hand. front - The Underworld Community Passport inside - from the minds of the Travelers comes a new scene for the underworld friday dec 24 11pm to 6am DJ Sameer * DJ DNA Caffeine * New York this passport admits holder * guest T H E C H A M B E R O F S O U N D 925 5th St. NW * Between Mass Ave * K St. Dan From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 24 11:53:49 1993 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1993 14:53:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: happy holidays ! Status: hey, just wanted to take a minute and wish all of you a very happy holiday season (whatever that holiday may be). hope the presents are good ;) jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< (in new jersey for the holidays! call 609-863-0356 for more info) :) From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 25 01:25:44 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1993 04:04:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: What's on my mind and A NEW DC CLUB! Status: Hey folks, just about to head out for my little zippity into the Cali scene, but I had some things on my mind, and I thought I would share them with you. First off, MERRY CHRISTMAS (Happy New Year, Wise Kwanza, Silly Solstice, Snuggly Chanauka)! My Christmas is shaping up to be one of the best in years. First I fall in love (you know who you are ;) ). Next I get an unexpected trip out to Cali. Then I get some encouraging nibbles to do a book for an established publisher. I get to be published in alot of mags. And then, AND THEN, I find a new club that I think I am going to really dig. :) This is definately a joyous season. Second, the book. Hey, I think I might be writing a book! The head of the publishing group has mailed me back a number of times and sounds like he digs my approach to the subject. What's the subject? Something I know very little about, Net romance. ;) They may even pay for my access to ALL the nets (even the expensive ones). Third, I love you Allison. Fourth, A NEW CLUB! I went to Chamber of Sounds tonight and it was PHAT! I talked to the people throwing the thing and it sounds like it will be an evolving weekly thing on Friday nights. The DJ's were great, they had Sameer and D.N.A. in there tonight. But the best was DJ Nicholas (ne Liquid Joy), absolutely slamming hard acid and liquidy hardcore. He is my newest passion. :) I have a few reasons for really liking the new club. One, it is a low budget production. These guys aren't famous, they just want to get in a good crowd. Some of you are aware of how I dislike too much power being concentrated in the hands of a few, no matter how well intentioned and good they are. So this is a great compliment to the Buzz/Fever/Music Now/Bohemia clique. Two, the space is intimate and segmented (four smallish rooms), so every room is a new experience. Three, they are turning it into an art show too. The back/art room (complete with fireplace) is neat, with a high ceiling perfect for putting up art. Great chill area (although a bit chilly). Four, the location is easy to find (925 5th St., NW) just a hop skip and jump from Music Now. In fact, I have been gotten lost after leaving Music Now and driven by there a few times (me, get lost? Hard to beleive. ;) ). I didn't like that they were serving alcohol, but I guess that's one of the pills you have to swallow when you go to a club. Anyhow, I can hardly wait to see how this place develops, what kind of people will be coming out for it. I saw a whole new group of folks who I haven't seen at a techno/rave night at a club before. I liked that alot. Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 25 17:40:23 1993 From: ksetchfi@skidmore.EDU (kris setchfield) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 20:38:06 EST Subject: dB..i need to talk to you!!!! Status: sprockett here....and damian, id like to talk to you about so DJ possibilities (for you) in february.....please return mail me at kumquat@acs.bu.edu thanks..... (or if anyone knows his #, please send it to me......appreciate it sprockett ------------------- End of network mail From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 25 17:45:46 1993 From: ksetchfi@skidmore.EDU (kris setchfield) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 20:43:28 EST Subject: geoffE, i need 2 talk 2 u 2 Status: to know if you'd be interested in spinning some time in february...get in touch for info: kumquat@acs.bu.edu thanks, sprockett ------------------- End of network mail From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 25 18:40:05 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 21:39:06 EST Subject: COUNTDOWN, FRI. 12/31 Status: I Just called the Countdown infoline and here's the latest (this is additional ROM info.): Place: TBA day of the event Time: 10pm doors Inside: 20,000 sq. ft penthouse skyline view from chill out room snack bar showers lockers I should be arriving in the city around 10:30pm (I have to work that day, ick!) and will probably head to COUNTDOWN after the ball drops. If you want to meet up before, e-mail me. E-mail me (johnnyt123@aol.com) to add yourself to the list which will be updated daily (I'm not working for most of the week, ha!). Here is the list of people who have posted an interest in going: FiSH rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu B SOLID_MATTER RECORDS AREVALO@logos.cc.brandeis.edu Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Sat Dec 25 19:12:35 1993 From: Gregory Richard Mitchell Date: Sat, 25 Dec 93 21:11:02 -0600 Subject: ??? Status: unsubscribing From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 26 12:54:29 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Sun, 26 Dec 93 15:44:59 -0400 Subject: Physical ailments Status: Hope you all had a fun holiday and got everything (or most everything) you requested. Anyways, I was curious as to what sort of physical ailments some of you may have suffered from doing the all-night dance thing. The one's I've experienced: "The Bells of St. Mary's": Loud ringing in the ears, occurs several hours after listening to BOOM-BOOM-BOOM while having your head thrust into a bass bin. "Ravers' Knee": Slight discomfort of the area surrounding the patella. Often accompanied by rhythmic throbbing of the veins surrounding the kneecap, at approximately 140 bpm. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | desk calendar From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 26 13:05:45 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 16:04:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Physical ailments Status: On Sun, 26 Dec 1993, Bob Baxter wrote: > Anyways, I was curious as to what sort of physical > ailments some of you may have suffered from doing the all-night dance Nasty pains in my lower back. ouch. Cant dance too long without sitting down to take a break :( :flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 26 13:54:10 1993 From: ksetchfi@skidmore.EDU (kris setchfield) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 93 16:51:52 EST Subject: computer needed! Status: sprockett here yet again! this time im looking foran old mac...dunno much about them, but i need one for under 600.00$ and newer than about 1986... ive got a korg dss-1 synthesizer and need to sequence it...i was told that getting a midi interface with a mac would be the cheapest/easiest way for me to go.......advice? comments? suggestions? im looking into selling my ibm to pay for it.....(1992 ps/1 386/25 if anyone's interested--130meg hdrive, 3.5" floppy, vga, 2400bmodem) sprockett kumquat@acs.bu.edu or ksetchfi@scott.skidmore.edu ------------------- End of network mail From ne-raves-owner Sun Dec 26 23:56:16 1993 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 23:51:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Physical ailments Status: yeh but flooo what is the catchy little name for the ache in your back...that is what we REALLY want to know...(:(: partyon....susie (: On Sun, 26 Dec 1993, Alan Michael Parry wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Dec 1993, Bob Baxter wrote: > > > Anyways, I was curious as to what sort of physical > > ailments some of you may have suffered from doing the all-night dance > > Nasty pains in my lower back. ouch. Cant dance too long without sitting > down to take a break :( > > :flu'id (floo'-) > > > From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 27 11:23:56 1993 From: "John Speakman" Date: 27 Dec 93 14:22:00 EST Subject: Re: Physical ailments Status: >From: Alan Michael Parry > Nasty pains in my lower back. ouch. Cant dance too long without sitting > down to take a break :( >From: "Susan R. Kameny" >yeh but flooo what is the catchy little name for the ache in your >back...that is what we REALLY want to know...(:(: partyon....susie (: I think it's "E-head's spine" isn't it? :) Dr. John. From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 27 18:41:45 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 21:41:35 EST Subject: COUNTDOWN 12/31 Status: Latest Countdown news as of Monday 9:30pm: Due to politics on the Board of Directors, the location of Countdown is now only tentative. If this location falls through, a backup location is available. Tickets have not yet gone on sale and may not until Wednesday or Thursday. NASA has informed me that they defi nitely WILL be holding an event for New Year's Eve, but the location may be different (which is okay, because most of us don't know the location until the day of the event anyway). I will post again with more news as soon as I hear it. In the meantime, we've got some ravers gathering up to do some heavy partying on New Year's. Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 27 20:03:57 1993 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 18:51:33 -0400 Subject: Re: Physical ailments Status: Definition follows this snippet of past discussions... >DATE: Sun, 26 Dec 1993 23:51:15 -0800 (PST) >FROM: Susan R. Kameny > >yeh but flooo what is the catchy little name for the ache in your >back...that is what we REALLY want to know...(:(: partyon....susie (: > >On Sun, 26 Dec 1993, Alan Michael Parry wrote: > >> >> On Sun, 26 Dec 1993, Bob Baxter wrote: >> >> > Anyways, I was curious as to what sort of physical >> > ailments some of you may have suffered from doing the all-night dance >> >> Nasty pains in my lower back. ouch. Cant dance too long without sitting >> down to take a break :( >> >> :flu'id (floo'-) >> Lumbar jack (also known as backpack jack): Repetitve strain from dancing excessively, affecting the lumbar and scapular regions of the back. BTW, I only get this when dancing with a backpack on. If you're weraing one, I'd suggest removing it. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | desk calendar From ne-raves-owner Mon Dec 27 20:48:11 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Mon, 27 Dec 93 23:48:05 EST Subject: Re: Physical ailments Status: > Lumbar jack (also known as backpack jack): Repetitve strain from > dancing excessively, affecting the lumbar and scapular regions of the > back. BTW, I only get this when dancing with a backpack on. If you're > weraing one, I'd suggest removing it. Yeah, sometimes when I go dancing with my 6 foot high platform shoes I get this feeling like my back is about to snap. I've fallen down stairs so many times and almost killed myself but I will endure until the end!!! I mean, where would raves be without platforms? As they say, fashion before comfort...NOT! I don't know how those club kids do it. I mean, many of my friends complain of knee ailments which I've never experienced (probably because I've gone out dancing all night since I was 16, now 24). The worst that has ever happened to me is having one of my legs give out, muscle cramps up, after dancing to hours and hours of hardcore... yet I will never try on a pair of platforms. They must be big culprits. I'd love to see some stats! :) ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 02:05:38 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 05:05:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: MARK I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!! (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 26 Dec 93 14:43:16 EST From: Speed Racer To: neraves Subject: MARK I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!! This is a message for mark, obviously.... mail me, man, i don't have your address...i have some news about your camera i think you'll like :) sorry to waste the bandwith on everyone, but mail's slow now anyhow... stay fresh kids! cyall at resolution! joe From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 07:39:52 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 07:39:31 -0800 Subject: "alternative" CDs for sale Status: For anyone going to Alchemy -- I am selling a bunch of CDs for $5 a shot. NO (I repeat) *NO* MAIL ORDERS. I'm too busy to be able to promise I'll get to the post office in any reasonable amount of time. So anyway, if you're going to Alchemy and you want any of these, drop me email and I'll bring them up for you. Laura ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nine Inc Nails - Pretty Hate Machine My Life With the Thrill Kill Kult - Sexplosion! Moev - Head Down The Mighty Lemon Drops - Sound... A House - On Our Big Fat Merry-Go-Round Hex - Vast Halos Finitribe - An Unexpected Groovy Treat Boxcar - Vertigo Spirea X - Chlorine Dream Siouxsie and the Banshees - Peepshow Siouxsie and the Banshees - Hyaena Pixies - Planet of Sound Pixies - Bossanova The Ocean Blue - Cerulean Christmas - Ultraprophets of Thee Psykick Revolution Mute - Tonal Evidence (usa) [sampler] Mercury - We're Two Planets Over [sampler] U2 - Actung Baby The Aquanettas - Love With the Proper Stranger The Ophelias - The Big O Grace Pool - Where We Live Kon Kan - Move to Move M-1 Alternative - Aviary Basia - London, Warwaw, New York Seal Tanita Tikaram - Ancient Heart Bauhaus - Burning from the Inside Johanna's House of Glamour - Farewell Street Click Click - Rorsach Testing Steve Reich - Different Trains/Electric Counterpoint Technorave 2 - Trance Atlantic ...the wave of the future Manic Street Preachers (promo CD sampler) Manic Street Preachers - Slash 'n' Burn Luxuria - Beast Box From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 11:10:09 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 14:08:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Physical ailments Status: Okay another one: Raw Foot (so I'm not good at cute names): raw blisters in between the toes from dancing too hard with shoes that are a little too loose. I used to get this everytime I wore my maroon Chucks, because I guess they were a little too big, and my feet would slide around in them. I remember when I was at Basics out in San Francisco, I was totally into the music and dancing my patootie off when I noticed I was feeling this sharp pain in both second toes (on each foot). It felt like something sharp was poking me; I thought maybe I had a torn nail or something. So I went off to the side and peeled off my shoes and socks. I had two symmetric raw blisters, one on each foot, in between my second and third toes, as I recall. I put my shoes and socks back on to try and find a bandaid or something. Walking around was fine, but any time I put any excess pressure on my feet, i.e. to dance, it was really painful. I wandered all over and did not find a bandaid. Finally I found some electrical tape and figured that would have to do. So I bound up both toes real tight and thick with the tape. It worked! They didn't hurt anymore and I went back to dancing, all night long. harDCore, dc style. :) I've since learned that wearing more than one pair of socks is good. It pads your feet more and they don't slide around as much. They do get sort of hot sometimes, though. --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 14:15:23 1993 From: "goldenboy" Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 17:03:24 CST Subject: SUBTERRANEAN POSTPONED Status: Hey kidz...I'm sure that the title doesnt evoke images of happiness...but neither does ending up in a snowbank on a turnpike ! Which is what I almost did driving home from Chicago on christmas. It was total white out snowstorms...and it sucked. BIG TIME. If I'd left Chicago any later, I would have been stuck in some town in between Cleveland and Chicago, until the turnpikes opened again. NOT COOL Driving in the winter IS hazardous. Especially on roadtrips to Cleveland. And, as heartless as I seem, I'd truly be hurt if someone got hurt on the way to the party. And many of you are planning long distance trips to get here. Actually, most of you. So this is what I'm gonna do...instead of having just a party...I'm going to expand it to a PICNIC/PARTY/SLEEP OVER...and we'll have it closer to june or something...that way everyone can road trip in safety and stay longer ! Peace. ======================================================================= goldenboy deb9@pop.cwru.edu deb9@scl.cwru.edu "Is this to test if I'm a replicant or a lesbian, Mr. Deckard ?" -Bladerunner From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 15:15:58 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 18:15:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Just in case.... Status: Okay...it's been snowing here in MD these past few days [yes, other places as well...but my point will come ni a minute...] Resolution is in the area and I don't want anyone to have to drive anywhere if the roads are bad...so although I'm not going to be at Resolution, if you're afraid you're too tired or that the roads aren't good enough to drive back to wherever it is you people came from :) I'd be happy to let people crash here, I've a sofa bed that takes about 3, 2 sleeping bags, and another sofa, plus, I'm sure we can find alot of other places or people that would be available.... Write/call if you need me Melanie [410.653.1274] From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 18:42:53 1993 From: Benoit.Mulsant@A.GP.CS.CMU.EDU Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 21:41:26 EST Subject: Re: MARK I HAVE GOOD NEWS!!! (fwd) Status: hey can someone send me info on What is goin on New Years Eve.. in NYC, Cleveland Blaltimore and points in-between... need to find something to do.. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 20:20:58 1993 From: SOLID_MATTER RECORDS Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 23:18 EDT Subject: Who's going to Countdown and where're we meeting Status: Hello everyone, Who's going to Countdown?? Also would anyone like to meet up before the event?? Let me know......I'll be coming from Boston with a couple of friends to NYC... BA From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 20:30:12 1993 From: johnnyt123@aol.com Date: Tue, 28 Dec 93 23:29:57 EST Subject: COUNTDOWN, FRI. 12/31 Status: E-mail me (johnnyt123@aol.com) to add yourself to the list which will be updated almost daily (I'm not working for most of the week, ha!). Here is the list of people who have posted an interest in going (us e a monospaced font for this baby): FiSH rquazi@csws1.ic.sunysb.edu BA SOLID MATTER RECORDS AREVALO@logos.cc.brandeis.edu Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com Cal Eastman (graphics projection) shiva@freenet.scri.fsu.edu Matt L. br00014@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu Edward Potter ejp@well.sf.ca .us I should be arriving in the city around 9:30pm (I have to work that day, ick!) and will probably head to COUNTDOWN after the ball drops. If you want to meet up before, e-mail me. C O U N T D O W N Presented by: N A S A AND THE SHELTER FAMILY Date: Fri, Dec. 31 Place: TBA day of the event Time: 10pm doors Inside: Unconfirmed. TENTATIVE DJ LINE UP DB - ONE - MR. KLEEN - JULZ (FRANCE) LIQUID SKY CREW - FRANKIE BONES -Johnny T. johnnyt123@aol.com Revision 3, as of Tue., Dec. 28 (my birthday!) Delete prior revisions. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 21:14:56 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 0:14:48 EST Subject: COUNTDOWN CANCELLED Status: Just in case you were unaware of this, several posts have just come through asking about Countdown... this was posted on the Technopolis list today: Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 02:35:07 -0500 (EST) From: "David A. Wolfe" COUNTDOWN CANCELLED DUE TO LAST MINUTE DIFFICULTIES WITH THE SPACE COUNTDOWN, SCHEDULED FOR NEW YEARS EVE, HAS BEEN CANCELLED. THIS MESSAGE WILL BE CROSSPOSTED DUE TO IT'S IMPORTANCE. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING IN BROOKLYN. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS WE KNOW. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT. Friday, December 31 NYC (Times Square) (212) - 330 - 8233 COUNTDOWN (800) - 357 - 1474 INFOLINE 212-330-8233 / 800-357-1474 ------------------------------- other events taking place in the area (not including Ultraworld's RESOLUTION rave in Baltimore, Maryland) are FUSION & TIMEWARP II. Taken from the rave-o-matic posted not that long ago... Friday, February 11 ALLENTOWN, PA (215) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II @ $12 DJs: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London-Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-Raves) *geoffE(NE-Raves/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA-NYC) *Remic(Vagabond-Philly) Mark M(Stonewall/6 turntable display!!!) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill Out *Will be doing a 2-hour-set* 10p.m. - 6 a.m. Directions: Take the Pa. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument. At the monument hang a left and go through three lights. 10 feet before the fourth light you will see a God Is Love sign in lights. Hang the next left and it's in the warehouses. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Newburgh, NY (212) - 465 - 3299 FUSION (914) - 463 - 9350 $15 / 9pm-9am DJs: Frankie Bones / Overload / James Christian / Nigel Richards / Osheen Scott Richmond / Mr Kleen / Joeski / Rio / Sprout Directions: **From East and West take I-84 to exit 10s. At the light make a right on to 9W South. After crossing Broadway (17K) go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson St. 100 yards to skate park. **From N&S take Taconic to Rt. 84 and follow directions listed above or take I-87 to exit 17. Bear left to light and make a left onto 17K. Go down 10 lights to Rt. 9W South and make a right. Go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson Rd. Skate park on left. Trains: From New York City (Grand Central) take Metro North to Beacon: trains depart at 7:48 pm, 8:55, 10:01, 11:15, 12:20, 1:15, 1:20, 2:50. Free shuttle to and from the event. Big Dipper Albany Bus: 518-465-6381 From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 21:20:18 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 00:19:46 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Physical ailments (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 01:36:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Francis L Sibilla To: WILL-E Cc: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Re: Physical ailments On Mon, 27 Dec 1993, WILL-E wrote: > > Lumbar jack (also known as backpack jack): Repetitve strain from > > dancing excessively, affecting the lumbar and scapular regions of the > > back. BTW, I only get this when dancing with a backpack on. If you're > > weraing one, I'd suggest removing it. > > Yeah, sometimes when I go dancing with my 6 foot high platform shoes I get > this feeling like my back is about to snap. I've fallen down stairs so > many times and almost killed myself but I will endure until the end!!! > I mean, where would raves be without platforms? As they say, fashion before > comfort...NOT! > > I don't know how those club kids do it. I mean, > many of my friends complain of knee ailments which I've never experienced > (probably because I've gone out dancing all night since I was 16, now 24). > The worst that has ever happened to me is having one of my legs give out, > muscle cramps up, after dancing to hours and hours of hardcore... yet I will > never try on a pair of platforms. They must be big culprits. I'd love to > see some stats! :) Well the back pain was in reference to fluid - and we all know what a platform wearin' fashion victim he is! The only physical ailment I suffer from after raving is extreme exhaustion from missing a night's sleep. Fran From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 21:19:51 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 00:19:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Countdown cancelled (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 02:38:46 -0500 (EST) From: David A. Wolfe To: neraves Subject: Countdown cancelled COUNTDOWN CANCELLED DUE TO LAST MINUTE DIFFICULTIES WITH THE SPACE COUNTDOWN, SCHEDULED FOR NEW YEARS EVE, HAS BEEN CANCELLED. THIS MESSAGE WILL BE CROSSPOSTED DUE TO IT'S IMPORTANCE. WE'RE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING IN BROOKLYN. WE'LL LET YOU KNOW AS SOON AS WE KNOW. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 21:45:35 1993 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 0:45:25 EST Subject: a desperate plea Status: um.... sorry for the wasted bandwidth (erk) but... would anyone happen to have space for me from boston --> d.c. OR for 2 from NY --> d.c. for RESOLUTION (hopefully Melzie's preparty too)? i can take a bus to NY if i can't get a ride from boston.. i know Xiola said she's got space but no one seems to have her home phone number (so if you have that, that'd be cool too!) thanks a bunch wfs jetta. From ne-raves-owner Tue Dec 28 22:13:09 1993 From: t808@mindvox.phantom.com (taylor deupree) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 01:15:51 EST Subject: binary conversions, anyone? Status: not very rave related, but: does anyone know how to convert LTTERs (words, text) to binary form? i remember a LONG time ago someone figured out "rave" in binary... i'd be interested to know the formula... so i can "spell" out words with ones and zeros. (for artistic enjoyment:) thanks.. >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 11:39:42 1993 From: Eric McCormick <0004775674@mcimail.com> Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 14:29 EST Subject: Re: binary conversions, anyone? Status: >i remember a LONG time ago someone figured out "rave" in binary... i'd be >interested to know the formula... so i can "spell" out words with ones >and zeros. (for artistic enjoyment:) If you use the ASCII system, you can convert "RAVE" into hexadecimal first: R A V E $52 $41 $56 $45 Then to binary: $52 $41 $56 $45 01010010 01000001 01010110 01000101 _________________________________________________________________________ /^ ^\ (=============================================================================) | Eric McCormick /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ 0004775674@MCIMail.com | | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~/~Improving Life through Perfect Code~\~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | (=============================================================================) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 12:48:04 1993 From: SOLID_MATTER RECORDS Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 15:45 EDT Subject: So what's there to do in NYC - Manhatten on 31st.. Status: Since I'm heading down to NYC on the 31st. I'd like to know what's happening there...I was going to go to Countdown, but since it's cancelled. Does anyone have any ideas of places to go in Manhatten on the 31st??? All ideas are appreciated... BA From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 12:58:17 1993 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 15:57:24 EST Subject: More Pro Legalization Bills Status: Got this off of misc.activism.progressive. All of you interested in the previous messages about making vitamin supplements illegal, read on. LEGALIZE IT DAMMIT! /** gen.newsletter: 174.0 **/ ** Topic: PP 11/93 Medical Marijuana ** ** Written 3:24 pm Dec 17, 1993 by sonomapj in cdp:gen.newsletter ** From: "Sonoma Co. Center for Peace/Justice" Subject: PP 11/93 Medical Marijuana Title: Miracle On Administration Drive By: Lazar Yersersky On Tuesday, October l2, before a standing-room-only crowd at the County Supervisors' hearing, Sonoma County at last passed a resolution approving the use of marijuana for medical purposes. Presented by Ernie Carpenter, supervisors Tim Smith and Mike Cale voted for. Nick Esposti was the sole vote against. The resolution, written mainly by Carol Miller, who, in spite of bringing up a gang of kids with Michael, living on a remote mountain without a car for at least a year, not to mention fighting Lymes disease all the while, never flagged in her mission of freeing marijuana for medical use. Dr Tod Mikuriya, author of the authoritative "Medical Marijuana Papers," spoke first. Caregiver "Brownie" Mary Rathburn testified to a standing ovation for her work and her indomitable spirit. Dennis Peron, who ram- rodded the SF ballot victory, spoke, and Bruce Sloan gave them what-for as only he can do, with his testimony before the supervisors and with his nifty sign to "Repeal Hemp Prohibition and Restore Health" outside. Then the parade of patients began: Patti, Beth, and Barb with AIDS. I use first names only because these very ill people are criminals as things stand--or at least stood before today. Patti drove herself to the hearing even though she was almost too sick to talk. Beth, a cancer patient, spoke. Chuck, an asthmatic, literally given the breath of life by a few daily tokes of marijuana, was there. And a phys ed teacher half crippled with a back injury suffered when a drunk ran into his car, explained that only marijuana stopped his debilitating muscle spasms, allowing him to stretch and heal his back when synthetic pharmaceuticals, with their often toxic side effects, could not. Sara was there suffering from giardia that wasted her away until marijuana cured the awful nausea and allowed her to eat. Linette, who was busted for two plants in Fairfax, was there. Now we must unite in support of Sen. Henry Mello's Medical Legalization Bill on the state level. And federal bills S. 784 and H.R. l709, which will roll back restrictive regulations on nutritional products and medical herbs (including cannabis) need our support. We must now endeavor to get the ear of Bill Clinton or maybe Hillary. Congratulations to S.C.R.A.P. and to everyone who worked so hard and so long to get to this point. ** End of text from cdp:gen.newsletter ** *************************************************************************** This material came from PeaceNet, a non-profit progressive networking service. For more information, send a message to peacenet-info@igc.apc.org *************************************************************************** -- ----- djm@progress.com ------------------- PH: 617-280-4474 -------------------- They knew he'd never been on || PARENTAL This album contains explicit lyrics their TV, so they passed his || ==== which may cause your children to good music by. -Joni Mitchell || ADVISORY become free thinking intellectuals. * We are BORGanized religion. YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED. Resistance is futile. * From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 13:21:41 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 16:21:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: post-Resolution crash space Status: Just a reminder to all those people who are crashing at Ben's after Resolution: Ben and I have a bunch of blankets and sleeping bags and such, but surely not enough for everyone who is coming. So the more sleeping stuff (blankets, pillows, etc) you all bring, the more comfortable your sleep will be. Plus you can curl up in the backseat on the way home the next day. :) So just find me or Ben at Resolution and we'll tell you how to get to his house. Only two more days! --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 13:33:13 1993 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 13:33:04 -0800 Subject: NEW JERSEY New Years' Party! Status: Just got this in the mail today . . . it looks pretty good, and is about an hour and a half (at most) south of NYC. New Years Eve Xtravaganza Friday, December 31st Metro Collective Brings You S K Y H I G H The New Frontier Taking Off 9PM Friday / Landing 5AM Saturday Featuring Supersonic DJs Nigel Richards Freshco Mars Denard Overlord Blackout Elektro Gee$ Jah Red Cyber Animated 3-D visuals by ENO-ONE Hyper Intelligent Light Show By T.D.L. VISUAL EFX Free Giveaways Courtesy of INSTINCT Records Open Bar 9-11 pm / Free Buffet / Champagne at midnight JOIN US AT 4th and Kingsley Avenues, Asbury Park, NJ (908) - 988 - 3205 18 to enter / 21 to drink Tickets are $12 in advance available at all Ticketmasters locations now. Tickets will also be available at the door on the day of the event. From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 13:38:14 1993 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 16:36:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 12/29/93) Status: =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Alright, the last Rave-O-Matic of 1993! In just two days, the massive Resolution hits Baltimore, along with the NE-Raves posse from up and down the coast (and further west). If you need crash space, find me at the rave and I'll try to get you back to Ben's house afterwards. I think we even might have some room in the Wundervan from DC to Baltimore, if anyone still needs a ride. Anyway, everyone have a fun and safe New Year's Eve, whatever you wind up doing! -inhuman NOTE: Countdown has been cancelled. _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion or calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@summit.novell.com so she can share it with the Technopolis list. VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 12/31/93 - RESOLUTION - Baltimore, MD - (410) 880 - 7031 12/31/93 - FUSION - New York City, NY - (212) 465 - 3299 12/31/93 - PHASE II @ - Long Island, NY - (516) 242 - 1773 01/08/93 - ALCHEMY - Rockland Cnty, NY - (908) 572 - 0259 01/15/94 - SYNERGY - New York City - (212) 631 - 3614 01/29/94 - POSITIVE ENERGY - Long Island, NY - (516) ??? - ???? 01/29/94 - GALAXY - Washington, DC - (202) 466 - 1692 02/06/94 - THERMONUCLEAR EVENT - Washington, DC - (202) ??? - ???? 02/11/94 - TIME WARP II @ - Allentown, PA - (215) 433 - 0503 02/12/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 880 - 7031 RESOLUTION Ultraworld Presents R E S O L U T I O N Friday December 31, 1993 New Year's Eve $20.00 US 333 WINK MICRO DJSUN JASON JINX SCOTT HENRY DAVE TRANCE LEIVEN DeGEYNDT WHO M-GEE SAMEER RYDE ONIONZ TOM T 12 hours of high energy GYROBIX techno tribal breakbeat MOONBOUNCE trance and hard acid SYNCHRO-ENERGIZE 2 lasers, giant screen GIANT VIDEO GAMES projection by ENO-ONE -- MELON DEZIGN 9 hours of ambient bliss to space your head featuring film lasers projections by projections by P.A.W.N DOUBLE HELIX oblivion lights by RETINAL BLOWJOB Ambient DJ's - wash, entity, john hicks, wordmosesripple and a special live performance by THE ALMIGHTY SENATORS smart bar by neuro-energy drink the water juice bar advance tickets on sale from dec 6th from: modern music balto 410.523.1882 open till 10:30 pm on 12/31 music now DC 202.638.1213 " " 9:30 pm on " loaded nyc 212.533.8463 call for hours 611 records philly 215.413.9100 call for hours checkered past harrisburg 717.561.8898 call for hours eddie van raven long island 516.925.2546 (pager, enter code 94) dezel boston 617.541.4258 bus trips: maine simon 207.871.8216 manhattan mello 212.631.4290 nh/vt nikki b 603.437.7795 nj/ny e-force 201.295.1925 vt mothership 802.860.7545 nj scooter 212.631.1033 connecticut warped 203.454.6643 philly thc 215.923.433 boston desel 617.541.4258 delaware zenith 302.764.9272 albany big dipper 518.465.6381 cleveland funky gizmos 216.238.1451 long island kort and greg 516.581.5426 richmond trance-fused 804.768.2000 montreal dna 514.854.6446 brooklyn dennis the menace 718.375.1954 call 410.880.7031 to find out about many additions to this list. call 410.522.6933 if you want to organize a bus or buy your ticket at the door ($25.00) .. here are the directions take 95 to baltimore. at the balto beltway (695) go west towards towson. take exit 34 - 83 north to timonium, get off at exit 16 east..timonium rd. cross the railroad tracks make a left into the first entrance, you can't miss it! admission: $20 in advance $25 at the door bus trips vary this event will reach capacity .. get your ticket early :) doors open 9:00 pm. after hours begins at 10:00 am, Sunday. DJ's T.B.A. MAIN INFO LINE: 410.880.7031 updates, communications, suggestions about the space: 37000 sq ft in 3 rooms, super-high ceilings, smooth clean dance floor, bathrooms like a YOU MUST BE 18 OR OVER stadium, lit parking lot right in front, TO ENTER!!!!!! coat check, pay phones, A/C or heat on demand (wow!) .. 100 RAVE guaranteed :) merchants welcome: call 410.522.6933 for info Fresh Media 410.522.6933 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 NEW YORK CITY (212) 465 - 3299 FUSION New Year's Party at the Newburgh Skate-park $15 9pm-9am DJs: Frankie Bones (Brooklyn) Overload (Maine) James Christian (Manhattan) Nigel Richards (Philadelphia) Osheen (Rhode Island) Scott Richmond (Fusion) Mr Kleen (Fusion) Joeski (Manhattan) Rio (Manhattan) Sprout (Fusion) Sponsored by WDST 100.1/96.9 FM Radio Woodstock: The New Direction Listen to the Underground Dance Experience Saturday Nights 12-3 am Directions: **From East and West take I-84 to exit 10s. At the light make a right on to 9W South. After crossing Broadway (17K) go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson St. 100 yards to skate park. **From N&S take Taconic to Rt. 84 and follow directions listed above or take I-87 to exit 17. Bear left to light and make a left onto 17K. Go down 10 lights to Rt. 9W South and make a right. Go down four lights and make a right onto Dickson Rd. Skate park on left. Trains: From New York City (Grand Central) take Metro North to Beacon: trains depart at 7:48 pm, 8:55, 10:01, 11:15, 12:20, 1:15, 1:20, 2:50. Free shuttle to and from the event. Big Dipper Albany Bus: 518-465-6381 INFO: 212-465-3299 914-463-9350 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, December 31 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 242 - 1773 PHASE II @ New Year's 92-93 Caffeine set a new standard in club culture with the East Coast's first 48 hour rave. Now prepare yourself for PHASE II, 48 HOURS OF PURE PANDEMONIUM, with DJ's: MICRO * BOB BENTLEY * SAMEER * OMAR * FRANKIE BONES * THAT KID CHRIS * SPACE ACE * D.N.A. * THE CREATOR * DAVE TRANCE * HAPPY * SCOPE * LUIS * TEDDIE C. ...plus 10 surprise DJs to be announced! open bar until 1994, free champagne toast Infolines: Caffeine 516-242-1773 Kort & Greg 516-547-7118 Trepp 212-629-1960 Doors Open 9PM $20 covers admission for both nights! Complimentary Bed & Breakfast And Buffet! L.I.E.: Exit 52 S (Commack Rd) at Grand Blvd (corner 7-11) make left 1/2 mile on right. Southern State: Exit 39N (Rt 231) to Commack Rd 1 mile make right onto Grand Blvd (corner 7-11). Penn Station: Ronkonkoma branch to Deer Park leaving at 10:14, 11:14, 12:15, 1:14, 2:46, 5:14, free shuttle to Caffeine. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 8 ROCKLAND COUNTY, NY (908) 572 - 0259 ALCHEMY Technopolis presents * A * L * C * H * E * M * Y * the science of sound + the magic of dance DJs: Hazard (wbrs 100.1, Waltham -- east/west acid/trance) Oz (Boston -- trance) Tom (New York -- hard house beats) Chad e (Generation -- progressive/house) Laura (Back to Basics/Timewarp -- brain tweaking tunes) Mars (Timewarp/Knowledge -- hard trance) WillE (New Jersey -- phat UK house) Darshan (The Abyss -- acid/progressive) Sprockett (Entropic/The Abyss -- acid jazz) Location and Tickets: 1/2 hour north of the George Washington Bridge 10 pm to 7 am / Tickets are $7, sold only at the door INFO: Technopolis 908.572.0259 / ZOOM 215.998.9650 Gearhead(MA) 617.352.6939 / Gearhead(NY) 518.463.2548 Directions: Get yourself to the intersection of the New York State Thruway (I-87/287) and the Palisades Parkway (hint, this is near the Rockland County side of the Tapanzee Bridge). * Palisades Parkway North to Exit 11. * At light at bottom of ramp go left. * At very next light go left. * Count 5 lights. At the 5th light turn left and make an immediate left into the parking lot. ** You will know you are at the right place because when you get to the 4th light you will see a red and white movie theater style sign on the left that says RAGE. The site itself is the old movie theater in the back of the parking lot. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 NEW YORK CITY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY SYNERGY Combined Energy * United Force * An Oracle Production January 15, 1994 * Information 212.631.3614 _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 29 WASHINGTON, DC (202) 466 - 1692 GALAXY Thermonuclear productions presents Galaxy. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 6 WASHINGTON, DC (???) ??? - ???? THERMONUCLEAR EVENT (to be named) DJ's =========== DMITRY (Dee-lite) Guy DMC Jason jinx SPEED DEMON and a few others and others to be announced _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 11 ALLENTOWN, PA (215) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II @ $12 DJs: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London-Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-Raves) *geoffE(NE-Raves/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA-NYC) *Remic(Vagabond-Philly) Mark M(Stonewall/6 turntable display!!!) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill Out *Will be doing a 2-hour-set* 10p.m. - 6 a.m. Directions: Take the Pa. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument. At the monument hang a left and go through three lights. 10 feet before the fourth light you will see a God Is Love sign in lights. Hang the next left and it's in the warehouses. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Mello & Primary Productions present R E D February 12 1994 Valentines Weekend Boston 617.541.4258 N.Y.C. 212.631.4290 READY??? _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 13:57:23 1993 From: Alan Michael Parry Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 16:56:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: NEW JERSEY New Years' Party! Status: On Wed, 29 Dec 1993, Laura La Gassa wrote: > Just got this in the mail today . . . it looks pretty good, and is about an > hour and a half (at most) south of NYC. I got one of these is the mail too...just curious, who sent it? :) :flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 14:04:42 1993 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 14:03:42 -0800 Subject: Re: NEW JERSEY New Years' Party! Status: Fluid Asks: >On Wed, 29 Dec 1993, Laura La Gassa wrote: > >> Just got this in the mail today . . . it looks pretty good, and is about an >> hour and a half (at most) south of NYC. > > I got one of these is the mail too...just curious, who sent it? :) Well, I saw Mars' name on the flyer and deduced that he is the one who sent it. Or at least he is the one who somehow caused it to be sent to us. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 14:17:22 1993 From: "Albert G. Boulanger" Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 17:16:52 EST Subject: So what's there to do in NYC - Manhatten on 31st.. Status: Well, Slimelight is having something. Robin S is headlined. And guess what, Frankie Bones too. (How could this guy be a 3 places in the same night?) Regards, Albert Boulanger aboulanger@bbn.com PS: Just checked out the Aclhemy site -- good site selection folks! From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 14:22:13 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 17:20:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Directions for pre-party....[more] Status: Okay...here's a reprint of the original directions with a little added bonus at the end for those of you that actually WANT to find parking :) If you need me, call at 653.1274 [410] if it's the day of, I might already be at the squah court [and yes, this event is in a squah court...funky--huh?] anyways, the number there is 358.7181 I've already gotten tickets for Jeannie, Chris, and Zach....if anyone else sent money, mail me....I haven't gotten anything yet.... If any of you have a nice assortment of CD's mail me....Gil and I have alot between us, but more is always welcome...I'll just tell you how to mark them so nothing gets confused or lost. Okay folks....anything else? Oh, yeah, um, we've gotten some snacky stuff and some soda, but well, anything else would be helpful...I mean, I just found out that another 10 people are coming, so uh...yeah, if you'd want to stop by anywhere and grab sopme mroe cups and some soda or something that would be spasertastic.... Oh...there's a 7-11 RIGHT near there so you can pick up stuff on your way to the event. And without futher ado or ramblings.....the directions.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Directions to Pre-Resolution Party (from north) Take I-95 to Baltimore Beltway (695) west - (from south) Take I-95 to to Baltimore beltway (695) North - Get off at Exit 20 (pikesville) south, or towards the city (if you are coming from the north it is a left turn at the traffic light, and if you are coming from the south it's a right merge) This will put you on Reisterstown Road. Take this for about 2-3 Miles. You will see a Ford Dealer on the right hand side of the street. Immediatly after that make a right onto the side street (I think the name is Emmert Ave). Take this to the End and turn left. go for about 50 Feet and turn left again. This is Sunnyside Ave. The Address is: 4105. There will be a sign that says "no parking in driveway" Park in the driveway if there is space. Otherwise find a space. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE DIRECTIONS REVISITED ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ In case there's no praking left [which there prob won't be] foloow Sunnyside Avenue back out to Reiserstown Road. Turn right, and take the next immediate right [20 to 30 feet] onto Mortimor Avenue. Park where you can on the street or, halfway down the block on the right hand side there will be a buildin with a sign that reads "For Sale 521-5165" you may park in the driveway of that building and or the adjacent building. Walk back around to Sunnyside Avenue and enter the door of the house with a "No Parking in Driveway" sign in the front..... [any other house might result in bizarre screams....arrestings..odd looks, or some REALLY lonly old housewife throwing her 180 pound body at you in lustful wishing] Don't worry, it might not look like the best neighborhood, but the place is cute...Gil's Squash court :) We'll have directions for you to get to the fairgrounds from there..... HUGZ.......see ya there [oh, if you have a couple strobe lights.......] You can show up anytime between 6 and 7 Melzie From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 15:15:07 1993 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 18:13:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOM....Last of the year Status: Heya Folksies..... Geez, okay...here is the HOM.....wow....this took a LONG time.. thanx for all of you being patient enough with me about entering your names....it won't be this bad in the future.... Keep well......hope I can seeya this weeeknd.... HUGZ....love ya'll Melanie **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Countdown NYC ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- CANCELLED!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Friday, December 31 Melzie's Resolution Pre-party Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut :) melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Digital Druid, Cyberpun cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Steve Hormell [with 3-4 people] steveh@susq.com Scott Borst Scottbo scott@tox.nlm.nih.gov Jeanne Finks Jeannie jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu Zachary Eitzen [finally back :) ] zachary@tsunami.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Nicholas Pyen [dozen friends] NICK@micf.nist.gov Chris Cmellow Hossam Sphinx hae2@po.CWRU.edu Woodrow Simmons The Sensitive Naked wsimmo1@gl.umbc.edu Sandi [With her friends] sandi@bach.udel.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE - Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Rob Rousseau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Xiola [CAN OFFER RIDE-VT DOWN] MH6221A@auvm.american.edu Peter Johanson [With his friend Rob :) ] peter@cs.umbc.edu Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Dave Sklar Sarcastic One skalr@minerva.cis.yale.edu Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NYC] 6ANTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu David Darrow [w/ 2-4 friends and doing T's!] david.darrow@pics.com Joe Speed Racer JPIT4903@URIACC.URI.EDU ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Friday, December 31 Resolution Baltimore ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Sweeney Hormon-E [may need a ride] jds@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Joe Speed Racer JPIT4903@URIACC.URI.EDU Jennifer Leibhart Jenn jlad+@andrew.cmu.edu Zachary Eitzen [home to PARTY] zachary@tsunami.ATMOS.ColoState.edu Dave Sklar [G-d of Sarcasm] sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu Scott Borst Scottbo scott@tox.nlm.nih.edu Sandi [With her friends] sandi@bach.udel.edu Jen Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutxtown.edu David Darrow Selling T-shirts david.darrow@pics.com James Sexton Jim [NEEDS CRASH SPACE] jsexton@psych.umass.edu Edeward Petelis Suess [NEEDS RIDE FOR 3-NY] petelis@acsu.buffalo.edu Michael Minnich Inhuman inhuman+@CMU.EDU Jeanne Finks Jeannie jfinks@cs.brandeis.edu Chris Cmellow John Humphrey Humphrey [NEEDS RIDE-NY/NJ] humphrey@unity.ncsu.edu Peter Johanson [with his friend Rob :) ] peter@cs.umbc.edu Steve Fluffhead steveh@susq.com Woodrow Simmons The Sensitive Naked wsimmo1@gl.umbc.edu Mark Machine Media [NEEDS RIDE-CT] 0005995336@mcimail.com Xiola [CAN OFFER RIDE-VT down] MH6221A@auvm.american.edu Francis Sibilla Fran fran@chopin.udel.edu Vanessa Jetta [NEEDS RIDE-Boston] jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu Krystin China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu Anthony Fiend [NEEDS RIDE-NY] 6ANOTHONY@spvcxa.spc.edu Rob Roussau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Derek Tiffany [organizing a bus] tiffanyde@urvax.urich.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Jason Method 1 LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Tina Sun (flower) A1TCHAN@LUCY.WELLESLEY.EDU Nick NICK@micf.nist.gov Luke NEEDS RIDE FROM ROCHESTER ls010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu Chuck NED [NEEDS RIDE-CT] buluga@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, January 8 Alchemy NYC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Marshal Mars a176@Lehigh.EDU Mike Minnich Inhuman Inhuman+@CMU.EDU Daniel Philpott "Free Love" [few spaces left] anarhcy@eng.umd.edu Joe Speed Racer JPIT4903@URIACC.URI.EDU Robert Campbell Rob [4 SPACES IN CAR] robcamp@WELL.SF.CA.US James Sexton Jim jsexton@psych.umass.edu Hossam A. El-Saie Sphinx hae2@PO.CWRU.EDU Alan Parry Fluid brit@chopin.udel.edu Jake Melon Dezign melon@access.netaxs.com Jason Method-one LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Fran Sibilla fran@chopin.udel.edu Jen Smeddy Jenn-bug smed8781@acad.csv.kutztown.edu Rob Rousseau Rob rarousse@eos.ncsu.edu Neith Love and Frogs! From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 15:41:59 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Wed, 29 Dec 93 18:41:46 EST Subject: Jimmy Crash's New Year's Eve party Status: Jimmy Crash and the Groove Records posse in Brooklyn, NY invite you to their New Year's Eve party. This will be a small underground party held in a warehouse that holds no more than 500 people. Doors open at 9pm exactly. Tentative DJs are: Adam X, Jimmy Crash, Heather, Frankie Bones, K-5 and Steve (from Unity). Possibly also Denard. Tickets are $10 and *only* available from Groove Records until 8pm on Friday. There will be NO tickets sold at the door! The address and phone number are: 64 Avenue U, Brooklyn, NY, (718)714-5232. If you're in Manhattan, take the N train to Avenue U. Walk out and turn right. Walk for about 3 1/2 blocks and the store is on the left. Please don't ask me for driving directions as I've never even driven a car. Upon purchasing your tickets, you will be given directions to the site. Hope to see you there and happy new year whatever you do! :) ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Wed Dec 29 23:45:49 1993 From: danFREELove Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 02:45:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Need rave.info for NYC (fwd) Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1993 14:14:06 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew S Macqueen To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Need rave.info for NYC Forwarded message: > From root Tue Dec 28 11:15:18 1993 > From: Matthew S Macqueen > Message-Id: <9312281607.AA12041@student5.cl.msu.edu> > Subject: ne-raves / NYC > To: mw-raves@engin.umich.edu > Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1993 11:07:50 -0500 (EST) > X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] > Content-Type: text Hope everyone had a taste of the Holiday Goose getting Phatter Hi everyone in the Nor'east! I am have been on the midwest-raves list for a couple of years now, and I am need info on rave events in the NYC area. So I figured, why not ask the people who live there I will be fortunate enough to share an apartment in "The Village area" with a few friends for about the next 10 days. We are all Mich. State students, and attend Detroit events whenever possible. We were hoping for some locations and dates for NYC raves, if any are in the works, or perhaps someone would be kind enought to send me a calender. thanks, maybe I'll get to meet some of you.... > > I'm Out____________________________Q._______________________________________ > From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 30 07:27:30 1993 From: dlesesne@cap.gwu.edu (Denise LeSesne) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 10:27:46 EST Subject: needs ride to Alchemy Status: I'am in desperate need of a ride to alchemy next saturday.I'am here in D.C. so Ineed a ride from here to New York.On the 8th though I'll be moving back on campus but i I can be reached at 202-625-5151. Khadija K. From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 30 10:47:53 1993 From: Francis L Sibilla Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1993 13:47:44 -0500 Subject: Emergency (for me) Status: Sorry to wast bandwidth on personal matters - but this is the only way I can reach everyone Something hapened to my acct - I can't access any mail - all the mail I had seems to be gone and in it's place are like a hundred files of garbage that were all added this morning - What the Fuck? Anyway - I have another acct that I will be using: Please contact me at: sibilla@colburn.che.udel.edu I don't even know if my acct will receive mail at the moment - so I apologize for any bounces that occur. Please send all mail to my new acct - thanks see you all at resolution. Fran From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 30 14:18:24 1993 From: WILL-E Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 17:18:16 EST Subject: Jimmy Crash's party cancelled too :( Status: Due to unforseen circumstances, namely the sound guy backing out, Jimmy Crash & Groove Record's party, also known as TIME BANDITS, is postponed. The party will probably take place the weekend of Jan. 15 instead. Call Groove Records for information. ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 30 19:01:06 1993 From: t808@mindvox.phantom.com (taylor deupree) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 22:03:59 EST Subject: i'm with you FLOOID Status: all the mail in *my* account got wiped too.. like.. over 100 messages.. GONE. so, anyone who had sent me mail.. well..it's gone. has any other mindvox-er experienced this today? >>taylor (see some onf you at resolution??? hopefully!) __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ From ne-raves-owner Thu Dec 30 19:49:50 1993 From: t808@mindvox.phantom.com (taylor deupree) Date: Thu, 30 Dec 93 22:53:12 EST Subject: i mean, FRAN Status: sorry it was FRAN who lost all his mail.. not floo. tina pointed out my stupidity. :) (bless her lovely self :) >>tayLOR __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ From ne-raves-owner Fri Dec 31 07:56:57 1993 From: ksetchfi@skidmore.EDU (kris setchfield) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 93 10:54:38 EST Subject: raves tonight Status: well, everyone knows about resolution and fusion, but seeing as both countdown AND time bandits have been cancelled, i figured id post about a smaller party happenning in albany, NY. like crash's party, there is a cap of 500 people. it will be in a club called the Abyss (518) 462-2977, dj's include: Ruff (NYC HARDCORE) Sprockett (BOSTON, ACID JAZZ AND FUNKY HOUSE) Space (UPSTATE, TRANCE AND ACID) 11:00PM UNTILL 6AM........$5.00 there WILL be reentrance, smartbar, and chill out room. *NO* alcohol. hope you join us! sprockett End of network mail From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 1 02:45:46 1994 From: ksetchfi@skidmore.EDU (kris setchfield) Date: Sat, 1 Jan 94 5:43:28 EST Subject: testing Status: this is just a test ------------------- End of network mail From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 1 15:17:07 1994 From: fusion / money grubbing Date: Sat, 01 Jan 94 18:09:34 EST Subject: fusion rave / money grubbing Status: I just got back from Fusion (put on by Scott Richmond), and I was really impressed with the rave. The DJ's, for the most part, were great, with the only mistake being that ambient/trance music was played TOO early. And thte lighting was descent (could of been LOTS better). My main complaint was the was in which the rave itself was run. As I walked in the door (freezing my butt off in my pink tu-tu) I was told that I would have to turn in my chain wallet (as chains were NOT allowed inside the skate park), I was then told that I would have to turn in my SEALED, UNOPENED bottle of spring water. I was then told that I would buy back SMALL 8oz bottles for $1.50! I'm sure that everybody else was disgusted by this money grubbing attitute (but what can be expected from Scott, and his cronies). Well I've stated my piece. Peace out, and a big FUCK YOU if you participate in destroying the scene at all like Scott and his boys do. xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 12:25:41 1994 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 15:22:38 EST Subject: sprockett's address & resolution request Status: just for info's sake, people who wish to mail me, should mail ONLY to: kumquat@acs.bu.edu...not at ksetchfi@scott.skidmore..... this is new, and shouldn't be too much of an inconvenience. also, how about some resolution and fusion reviews...im interested.... sprockett From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 13:10:07 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Sun, 02 Jan 94 16:07:43 EST Subject: alchemy Status: just wondering if anyone from alchemy is out there, and if so e-mail me, I have some questions. If not could somebody provide me with a contact number? thanx.. xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 13:35:23 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Sun, 02 Jan 94 16:32:43 EST Subject: rave promotions Status: If anyone would like an event promoted by the Trilobite project in upstate (albany, NY) then send e-mail to nisk017@uacsc2.albany.edu, and we will work something out. xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 13:48:12 1994 From: Machine Media <0005995336@mcimail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 16:44 EST Subject: Bad E, etc. Status: At Resolution I took a bad E :( It was a very, very, bad E :( :( :( I've had E's that have done nothing at all, which would have been much preferable. About 15 minutes after I took it, I felt like I had swallowed several live scorpions bathing in a double espresso. I was able 2 deal with that. I wandered off 2 the bathroom and started 2 feel very dizzy. But, I've been dizzy before. When I got back I felt as though I couldn't stand, so I just sat down. Then it hit me like a freight train from hell. =:O Pure panic. I felt felt as though I was thrown into the most horrible nightmare and could not wake up. "I'm really freaking out - I can't deal with this." While holding on 2 a friend who comforted me (a situation that might have been quite wonderful if I wasn't feeling so sick), the waves of terror slowly began 2 subside. What sort of vile substance did I take? Has anyone else gone through an episode like that?!? I never have - it was the worst I have ever felt. I've had decent E at other events, where I ran around with a big smile on my face :D, happy 2 see people I didn't even know, laughing and dancing my ass off :) All of the good feelings I had 4 the rest of the night at Resolution were in spite of, and not because of, that poisoned pill. On a similar note, several people threw up from their E's (heroin?). One of the people I travelled with went through a period of massive vomiting before "X'ing for eight hours." None of these pills were MDMA, nor even pure MDA. Have things gotten 2 the point where any reprehensible asshole can throw whatever they want into a pill and call it an E? I was even reassured by a couple of net ravers I know that the E I was getting was really good. Was I a victim of really bad quality control or just over-zealous capitalism? Sorry if I protest 2 much, but please, I want all of U 2 be careful. It's sunday afternoon and I still feel a bit shaky and nauseous. I don't mean 2 complain so much & I'd like 2 end this post on a more positive note. I'm glad I went 2 Resolution :) Ultraworld did a fine job. It was truly great seeing all of U who went :D and I hope U all had an incredible time. "Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint." Mark Twain PEACE OUT :) MARK HAPPY NEW YEAR :D From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 14:41:36 1994 From: r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Krystin . Dauchy ) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 94 17:41:08 EDT Subject: PLUR in effect in all areas... Status: Hey net-kids...this is China. I hope you all had a poppin good thyme no matter what you did for the New Year. I was supposed to go to The Ultraworld Resolution party where I was to see many of you again. But last minute complications (losing my drivers liscenes, not having a plethora of cash, and needing to be alert, awake and in Cleveland by 8pm on Saturday night) kept me from attending. I want to say something though. One of the main reasons I attend raves is because of the PLUR thing. I like the feeling of community and family that we have, especially us net-ravers. I wanted so much to go to Resolution because somethymes that feeling can carry me for weeks in the often boring, many thymes rude and downright despicable *outside* society... But I rang in the New Years in a different way. With another net-raver that could not attend Resolution. We picked out movies, ordered pizza and *stayed at home* Yes...no parties, no raves, no wild carousing and debauchery...and you know what? It was fun! I had as much fun spending thyme with one person I know the PLUR phenomenon with as I ever could have. This just goes to show that how our community is special and different. We expand ourselves to how our community is different. That we have an open community, sans (hopefully) the attitude and pretention found in many areas. We respece eachothers (hopefully) differences and uniquenes. And we network...with help of Inhumans Rave-o-Matic, Melzies HOM, Brians Vrave (which I think many of us need a 12-step program to aid in our addiction) Jen-Bug's Smart Bar which is a drop-off and meeting point for maselves. We all work together for something that we all need to recognize as unique! From Inhumans Rave-O-Matic, to Melzies HOM, to Jenn-Bug's smart bar which is a meeting place and drop off point for many of us. To the kids who need last minute rides or crash space and the kids that give it. We need to see and appreciate our community as something special, unique and intimate...and make sure it stays that way! :) We each are unique and special and we all realize that. I hope and wish that you all had and have a HAPPY NEW YEAR and that 94 is the best of the best... Hossam...you butthead. Have fun this week! Damian...don't forget to take back the movies! All of you...here's to us! Happy New Year! Chinagrrrll From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 16:54:36 1994 From: Courtney Lyon Scott Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 19:52:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Fluid Address change.. Status: Due to some idiots at Udel, I am currently unable to access my email account. You can currently reach me through: tulip@chopin.udel.edu Thanks. flu'id (floo'-) From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 19:31:39 1994 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 22:30:27 -0500 Subject: pre-alchemy Status: Are there any plans made yet to meet up before alchemy? I'll be in the city area fri-tues and was hoping someone would hook up a place to meet up on sat...if not...do any area people want to met up sun or mo monday for dinner? love and frogs!!! neith From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 20:36:56 1994 From: sashay@mindvox.phantom.com (Ashley Goebel) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 94 23:35:57 EST Subject: Friday before alchemy Status: Does anyone wanna meet at Caffeine (on Long Island) before Alchemy? Caffeine is really easy to get to from Penn Station in NYC. Theres a train that goes to the Deer Park train station and a free shuttle to Caffeine. If anyone wants to go drop me a line and I'll put you on my Caffeine guest list for Friday. ON-E as well as the regular Caffeine DJ's Dave Trance, Micro, Sameer, DNA will be spinning that night too. Give it some thought. .......spam (chris)_ From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 20:44:12 1994 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 23:43:02 -0500 Subject: well i kinda meant... Status: like getting together for dinner...maybe a more central location than li love and frogs! neith From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 21:03:08 1994 From: Courtney Lyon Scott Date: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 23:57:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: UPCOMING!! :) Status: Saturday January 29th (Flyer is misprinted 24th) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Brought to you by Caffeine & Essence *** P O S I T I V E - E N E R G Y *** First of a series of all-night Warehouse parties in 1994 >DJs: Micro, Keoki, Dave Trance, Scott Henry, Jason Jinx, Frankie Bones, The Creator, Sameer, Josh Wink, DNA. Long Island Warehouse location to be announced 516.547.6129. flu'id (floo'-) currently residing at tulip@chopin.udel.edu From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 2 23:32:55 1994 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 02:31:44 -0500 Subject: thurs at venus Status: Well..i know vanessa, becca, rob rousseau, and I are going to be at venus this Thursday....I was wondering who else is going...and where you might want to meet for a small dinner before? i'll post before then with the place we'll meet at...but write me if you are planning to come Love and Frogs!!! Neith From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 00:10:16 1994 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 00:05:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: PLUR in effect in all areas... Status: what does plur mean? ...partyon...susie (: From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 07:10:09 1994 From: brendan mcdougall Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 10:10:45 -0500 Subject: Re: Bad E, etc. Status: Mark, You don't say what happened after the terror subsided. Perhaps you got straight strychnine--a bitter poisonous alkaloid C21H22N2O2 that is obtained from nux vomica and related plants (genus Strychnos) and is used as a poison (as for rodents) and medicinally as a stimulant to the central nervous system, pcp or ketamine. You're lucky you had friends to take care of you--the best part of our cyber-tribe. I would not be the least bit surprised if half the ambulance cases at raves are due to these types of unexpected surprises. Caveat emptor, Brendan From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 09:36:28 1994 From: Oz Lubling Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 12:36:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: meeting before/after alchemy Status: hi guys! I'm willing to meet and hang out before or after alchemy, so if you're interested just email me...... oz From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 12:18:14 1994 From: WILL-E Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 15:17:57 EST Subject: Re: Bad E, etc. Status: > At Resolution I took a bad E :( It was a very, very, bad E :( :( :( Who did you buy it from? Lesson #1: buy only from *trusted* sources. Have you bought from this person before? If not, hang around this person and see what sort of vibe you get off them. Does this person have lots of happy customers & friends? Look at the people buying off this person and see how they're doing in an hour or two. You can tell from the expression on their face if they're having a good time or feeling sick. Unfortunately these precautions are necessary not just because some dealers are slimey and want to just make a buck (or many bucks) but also because it's a very difficult substance to make. Not only are the precursors more and more difficult to obtain but it's also much easier to make MDA than to take all the steps required to make MDMA. On top of all these stupid politics, pure MDMA is not something that makes you want to jump up and dance. On the contrary, it makes you feel "monged out" and "loved up" so in order to make people not only happy but also energetic, other drugs are added like speed (amphetamine sulphate). > What sort of vile substance did I take? Has anyone else gone through > an episode like that?!? I never have - it was the worst I have ever felt. > On a similar note, several people threw up from their E's (heroin?). > One of the people I travelled with went through a period of massive > vomiting before "X'ing for eight hours." None of these pills were MDMA, > nor even pure MDA. Have things gotten 2 the point where any reprehensible > asshole can throw whatever they want into a pill and call it an E? For awhile, there were these pills going around Europe called "snowballs." They were pretty strong and notorious for making you puke. Eventually they were getting very wierd. People were forgetting the events that transpired for the past 8 hours, hallucinations, vomitting... eventually flyers circulated warning that "snowballs" contained not only a large dose of MDA but also ketamine which would explain a lot. Ketamine is a strong psychedelic that hospitals originally used in emergency cases when they needed to knock you out fast (analgesic & anasthetic) but patients were reporting coming out of it having bad dreams so they discontinued use. This is *not* something to take when you go out dancing as it totally numbs you (but not your brain!). MDA itself feels similar to MDMA but MDA doesn't give you the level of empathy that MDMA does. MDA is more psychedelic, and gives you intense "rushes" or feelings in waves. It also makes you feel worse the next day. Back to the pamphlet... it said that anything after 3 snowballs was considered a lethal dose. The combination isn't very nice. I reckon you had something similar. > I was even reassured by a couple of net ravers I know that the E I > was getting was really good. Was I a victim of really bad quality control > or just over-zealous capitalism? Sorry if I protest 2 much, but please, I > want all of U 2 be careful. No offence but just because a net raver tells you it's good doesn't mean it is. I doubt many people have ever tried pure MDMA to know the difference. For many people, if it gets you off then it's good. Well let me tell you, snowballs *definitely* got you off. Many swore by them, others didn't react so well to them and puked or had a seizure. Everyone reacts differently to dogey combinations. Someone mentioned strychnine... If this were the case, you would need to take a few hundred pills of strychnine before you started feeling the effects. Come on folks, the strychnine myth isn't true for ecstacy or acid. Extensive information is available on the subjects especially the net. Read "alt.drugs" and check out ftp/gopher sites like techno.stanford.edu. I suspect that drug manufacturers are experimenting with combinations to either make the real thing go farther or because they aren't getting the real thing. I would hope that malicious intents are *not* the case... in other words, I don't think people are intentionally making bad E but they can't do much better. hope this helps. Mark, you have an excellent book called "E is for Ecstacy" but I forget the author. Care to share that info? ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 13:25:34 1994 From: r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Krystin . Dauchy ) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 16:24:59 EDT Subject: Re: Bad E, etc. Status: Another very good book on E is Ecstasy: The MDMA story... China From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 14:51:24 1994 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 17:49:08 EST Subject: im interested in a pre alchemy thing....mebbe even post-alchemy Status: im gonna be in the albany area...anyone coming from the north will pass thru there...mail me kumquat@acs.bu.edu thanks, sprockett From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 15:28:35 1994 From: EHDV19C@prodigy.com (MISS JENNIFER A KANE) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 1994 18:27:48 EST Subject: pre-alchemy party Status: Yo, if anyone wants to meet in the albany, new york area before alchemy just write me a letter. peace out.....peppermint patty From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 16:22:08 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 19:20:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: ARTICLE Status: Here's the Article from the Sun Papers about the rave Resolution that happened here over New Years......I found it disgusting and appalling.... Gil was nice enough to type it up for us....so here's a copy... If you'd like to mail Mr. Roger Hayden, mail me for his address...... I have a few pieces of my mind I'd like to give him....wrapped in a bow and with a card reading..."don't assume--you Putz!" Ah well, here goes.... **************************************************************************** HAYDEN URGES PROBE OF ALL-NIGHT PARTY Drug, alcohol abuse reportedly mar affair on New Year's Eve By Melody Simmons Baltimore County Executive Roger B. Hayden yesterday called for an investigation of possible illegal drug and alcohol use at a huge, all-night Ney Year's Eve party at the maryland State Fiargrounds. Billed as a nonalcoholic event, the "rave" party attracted more than 2,500 people from around the East Coast to a privately owned Timonium-Fairgrounds and didn't break up until midday yesterday. Yesterday morning the parking lot was littered with empty beer and alcohol bottles. Michael M. Gimbel, directory of the county's substance abuse office who visited the event twice, said he believes illegal drugs also were consumed. A reporter observed a couble apparently having sexual intercourse on one of the dance floors yesterday morning. "I don't think we can be satisfied with anything like that happeneing in our county," Mr. Hayden said, adding that he will ask county Pilice Chief Michael D. Gambrill and the county state's attorney's office to investigate the party. Mr. Gimbel said the rave , which was staged by local promoter Lonnie Fisher, was an "irresponsible and uncontrolled event." "It was builled as a nonalcoholic event. Obviously that was not true," Mr. Gimbel said. "The parking lot looked like the Preakness infield." "We have a responsibility to let parents know we will protect their kids," he added. "we can't have an event where kids 12 and 13 years old are drinking , smoking and having sex on the floor." An English phenomenon, rave parties have become popular in the United States, attracting young crowds to clubs and other locations for hours of communal dancing to loud techno-music. Reports about raves often mention that some participants use hallucinogenic drugs, although many people who attend stick to bottled water and soda. The 12-hour rave started at 10 pm Friday and featured laser beams and strobe lights, and music played by disc jockeys from New York and Washington as well as a local band, The Almighty Senators. Hundreds of youths dressed in baggy clothing, bell bottoms and platform shoes paid $20 and $25 to dance and mingle inside the Cow Palace, a huge pavilion normally used for judging livestock. Mr. Fisher, the promoter, defended the event. "Overall it was a great one - a lot of thought was put into the visual setup with a combination of lights, screens, and lasers," he said. "Overall, it was a very safe and clean event." He said, though that CES Security Co. of Randallstown, hired for security at the rave, perfomed "inadequate searches" at the door. An employee at the private security company declined comment and referred questions to comapany officials, who did not respond to a request for an interview. Mr. Fisher said there was almost no drinking inside the party. But, he acknowledged, some partygoers were drinking in the parking lot. Mr. Gimbel said he went to the rave twice - at 10:30 pm Friday night, and 9:30 am yesterday. On friday night, he said he witnessed guards making security checks for drugs and alcohol "in total darkness....with a flashlight." Security "was a joke," Mr. Gimbel said. "All of my biggest concerns were coming true last night." Baltimore County police assigned two patrol cars to the rave and reported no incidents, said Officer Denise Geiger of the Cockeysville district. The party was adveritsed as a nonalcoholic event, although a flier for it depicted a huge Uncle Sam figure wearing a marijuana leaf lapel pin. Mr. Fisher said the use of a marijuana leaf on the flier was poor judgment. He said wit was done to support Baltimore Mayor Kirt L. Schmoke's call for debate on decriminalizing use fo some illegal drugs. At 8:30 am yesterdayu, the rave was still going full force. A man in an orange space suit danced alone while a group of dazed youths stared at a slow-motion film of a waterfall. Nonalcoholic liquid refreshments such as as Thermite Bomb ("the total mental meltdown"), Orbit Juice ("smooth sailing all night long") and the Oxygen Cocktail ("Molotov cocktail for your ming") were being sold for $3 and $4 each. "We'll never forget it. It was weird, just weird," said Ralph Hane, 21, who drove to the rave from his home in suburban Philadelphia. "It was the most different night I've ever had in my life," said Mr. Hane's buddy, Todd Rudden, 22, also of Philadelphia. "It is a modern way of reminiscing the 1960s," Mr. Rudden said. "everything is psychedelic. The peak hours were 11 pm through 3 am. Then at migdnight, there were psychedlic lasers onall the walls and a huge 1994 was flashed up in laser beam." THe same promoter put on a rave at the fairgrounds several months ago with no problems reported, said fiarground Manager Howard M. "Max" Mosner. State Del. Gerry L. Brewster, a member of the fairgrounds board, said that , if Mr. Gimbel's reports are true, he would no support allowing future raves on the property. The Fairgrounds are owned by a private , nonprofit corportation that rents the facilities year-round to a variety of events, ranging from motorcycle races to computer shows. The money generated by the events helps pay for the annual state fair. Staff writer Thomas W. Waldron contibuted to this article From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 20:26:40 1994 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Mon, 03 Jan 94 22:56:34 -0400 Subject: Re: well i kinda meant... Status: >DATE: Sun, 2 Jan 1994 23:43:02 -0500 >FROM: Neith Preston > >like getting together for dinner...maybe a more central location than li >love and frogs! >neith Long Island is centrally located ... if you live in the center of Long Island. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.) Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 21:20:48 1994 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 00:19:26 -0500 Subject: Re: ARTICLE Status: Reports about raves often mention that some participants use hallucinogenic drugs, although many people who attend stick to bottled water and soda. -Melody Simmons hey at least they didn't JUST go on and on about the drugs being people's only pull or anything like most articles From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 23:07:39 1994 From: jetta@olaf.wellesley.edu (Vanessa Wang) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 2:07:31 EST Subject: resolution... Status: disregarding the wonderfully pleasant article in the baltimore sun that melzie posted...resolution was amazing (as i have learned to realize ultraworld events to be). i guess no one besides mark has posted about this rave. i imagine it's because we're still sort of living it--for some of us it didn't end until this afternoon... so anyway, after a desperate plea for a ride, i finally got one down with v-/ne-raver verge (thanks, myn)...we headed for melzie's pre-party, which was held in a (chilly) squash court...it was cool to see the dc-ravers, who i rarely see. around 10pm we headed over to the fairgrounds in a caravan of about 6 cars. we were greeted by melondezigns onscreen and booming music...after wandering around a bit checking out the 3-arena area (one room for smart bars/vendors/ moonbounce/tiltathingy/band) the net-ravers hung out around Jake's setup to meet up at midnight for the changing of the year...let's see if i can remember who all was there...jenn(pitt), jennbug, mars, inhuman, ben jaffe, jed, elliot, daniel, verge, fran, fluid, jake, shelly, laura, brian, tina, taylor, hossam, chris mellow, jeannie, rob rousseau, john (rainbow), mikebee, justin (cutlet), scott, derek tiffany, jason (method1), zach, um...and lotsa of other people whose names are slipping my tired mind (i'm sorry :( at any rate, there were lotsa netravers there from everywhere...it was cool to see the close of one year and the beginning of a new one with friendly people... i must say, though, that this rave reminded me of what i used to experience in feb/mar/apr of 1993 with raves--that friendly happy dance-y vibe. we couldn't sit down, really, without getting soaked on the wet floor, so everyone was basically forced to dance (which got tiring, but was cool because people tended not to be crashed all over the place, like at casper) lights were amazing--i want that argon laser! and taylor's little red pen laser definitely added to the effects :) the ambient room was nice and comfortable...lonnie + friend did a live performance around 7am which was cool, too. the djs spun mostly hardcore/hard trance, except for (?) jason jinx who did this funky housey stuff which was neat. 808's cubik got played at some point. whatever. i've rambled long enough about this one. a lot of you were there.. i'm glad we all shared the seeing in of the new year :) have fun, be happy... wfs jetta. From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 03:18:48 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 06:18:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: fuck you baltimore sun Status: I must say though two things.... Over the summer, the Sun DID have the BEST article EVER on raves, written by a raver herself.....so I wouldn't say "fuck you" to the paper itself... Also, somethnig funny: I just watched a news show a few minutes ago...where they spoke about the rave, saying that Roger Hayden wanted it inspected for drugs and such..and that police say none where to be found.... In one way, we win.....to a degree.....this also means that the board will let Lonnie hold other events.... ALTHOUGH, I still believe Sir Roger Hayden needs a little talking to, when I'm more awake later, I'll post his address....I would honestly love to see him flooded with mail, I'm going to mail off tons of reviews and all about raving from ravers.... HUGZ to all! Melzie From bbehlen Tue Jan 4 07:32:49 1994 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 07:32:44 PST Subject: Resolution (fwd) Status: (forwarded for a non-ne-raves member) (BTW, I thought Resolution was really REALLY good, on par with the best out in SF. The music in the main room was a bit too caustic for the most part, until Micro and whoever followed him came on. I didn't see *any* beer bottles, so I dunno what this commissioner is thinking, and I wonder if the "reporter" is mistaking a slither pile for sexual intercourse :) Finally, I wonder which official mentioned below was the one I saw in a suit and tie and badge dancing with a tall woman around 4am.....) --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 3 09:54:43 1994 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA13140; Mon, 3 Jan 94 09:54:36 PST Date: Mon, 3 Jan 94 09:54:36 PST Message-Id: <9401031754.AA13140@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [Digital Druid ] >From cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Mon Jan 3 09:54:29 1994 Received: from pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA13131; Mon, 3 Jan 94 09:54:29 PST Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu by pg2-srv.wam.umd.edu with SMTP id AA15692 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 3 Jan 1994 12:54:22 -0500 Received: by rac6.wam.umd.edu id AA27449 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 3 Jan 1994 12:54:21 -0500 Date: Mon, 3 Jan 1994 12:54:19 -0500 (EST) From: Digital Druid Sender: Digital Druid Reply-To: Digital Druid Subject: Resolution - The Media To: Washington DC Rave List Cc: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII HAYDEN URGES PROBE OF ALL-NIGHT PARTY Drug, alcohol abuse reportedly mar affair on New Year's Eve By Melody Simmons Baltimore County Executive Roger B. Hayden yesterday called for an investigation of possible illegal drug and alcohol use at a huge, all-night Ney Year's Eve party at the maryland State Fiargrounds. Billed as a nonalcoholic event, the "rave" party attracted more than 2,500 people from around the East Coast to a privately owned Timonium-Fairgrounds and didn't break up until midday yesterday. Yesterday morning the parking lot was littered with empty beer and alcohol bottles. Michael M. Gimbel, directory of the county's substance abuse office who visited the event twice, said he believes illegal drugs also were consumed. A reporter observed a couble apparently having sexual intercourse on one of the dance floors yesterday morning. "I don't think we can be satisfied with anything like that happeneing in our county," Mr. Hayden said, adding that he will ask county Pilice Chief Michael D. Gambrill and the county state's attorney's office to investigate the party. Mr. Gimbel said the rave , which was staged by local promoter Lonnie Fisher, was an "irresponsible and uncontrolled event." "It was builled as a nonalcoholic event. Obviously that was not true," Mr. Gimbel said. "The parking lot looked like the Preakness infield." "We have a responsibility to let parents know we will protect their kids," he added. "we can't have an event where kids 12 and 13 years old are drinking , smoking and having sex on the floor." An English phenomenon, rave parties have become popular in the United States, attracting young crowds to clubs and other locations for hours of communal dancing to loud techno-music. Reports about raves often mention that some participants use hallucinogenic drugs, although many people who attend stick to bottled water and soda. The 12-hour rave started at 10 pm Friday and featured laser beams and strobe lights, and music played by disc jockeys from New York and Washington as well as a local band, The Almighty Senators. Hundreds of youths dressed in baggy clothing, bell bottoms and platform shoes paid $20 and $25 to dance and mingle inside the Cow Palace, a huge pavilion normally used for judging livestock. Mr. Fisher, the promoter, defended the event. "Overall it was a great one - a lot of thought was put into the visual setup with a combination of lights, screens, and lasers," he said. "Overall, it was a very safe and clean event." He said, though that CES Security Co. of Randallstown, hired for security at the rave, perfomed "inadequate searches" at the door. An employee at the private security company declined comment and referred questions to comapany officials, who did not respond to a request for an interview. Mr. Fisher said there was almost no drinking inside the party. But, he acknowledged, some partygoers were drinking in the parking lot. Mr. Gimbel said he went to the rave twice - at 10:30 pm Friday night, and 9:30 am yesterday. On friday night, he said he witnessed guards making security checks for drugs and alcohol "in total darkness....with a flashlight." Security "was a joke," Mr. Gimbel said. "All of my biggest concerns were coming true last night." Baltimore County police assigned two patrol cars to the rave and reported no incidents, said Officer Denise Geiger of the Cockeysville district. The party was adveritsed as a nonalcoholic event, although a flier for it depicted a huge Uncle Sam figure wearing a marijuana leaf lapel pin. Mr. Fisher said the use of a marijuana leaf on the flier was poor judgment. He said wit was done to support Baltimore Mayor Kirt L. Schmoke's call for debate on decriminalizing use fo some illegal drugs. At 8:30 am yesterdayu, the rave was still going full force. A man in an orange space suit danced alone while a group of dazed youths stared at a slow-motion film of a waterfall. Nonalcoholic liquid refreshments such as as Thermite Bomb ("the total mental meltdown"), Orbit Juice ("smooth sailing all night long") and the Oxygen Cocktail ("Molotov cocktail for your ming") were being sold for $3 and $4 each. "We'll never forget it. It was weird, just weird," said Ralph Hane, 21, who drove to the rave from his home in suburban Philadelphia. "It was the most different night I've ever had in my life," said Mr. Hane's buddy, Todd Rudden, 22, also of Philadelphia. "It is a modern way of reminiscing the 1960s," Mr. Rudden said. "everything is psychedelic. The peak hours were 11 pm through 3 am. Then at migdnight, there were psychedlic lasers onall the walls and a huge 1994 was flashed up in laser beam." THe same promoter put on a rave at the fairgrounds several months ago with no problems reported, said fiarground Manager Howard M. "Max" Mosner. State Del. Gerry L. Brewster, a member of the fairgrounds board, said that , if Mr. Gimbel's reports are true, he would no support allowing future raves on the property. The Fairgrounds are owned by a private , nonprofit corportation that rents the facilities year-round to a variety of events, ranging from motorcycle races to computer shows. The money generated by the events helps pay for the annual state fair. Staff writed Thomas W. Waldron contibuted to this article -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So there it is. THe article that appeared in the Baltimore Sun on sunday morning. Like Woody said...we should write in to the paper and hope to get a clearly written, concise article printed. I was planning on writing somthing up today or tomorrow, and sending it up to the list (dcraves) for any criticism and then signing it dcraves and mailing it in. DOes that sound like an okay idea? Also, did anyone happen to catch the segment they had on channel 2 news last night? I got it on tape, if anyone wants to see it, it's basically what was in theis article, so it's no new news. --Gil --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 09:20:35 1994 From: soundz@MIT.EDU Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 12:20:14 EST Subject: test Status: I can't seem to post anything.... Can anyone see this??? From bbehlen Tue Jan 4 10:05:17 1994 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 10:05:13 PST Subject: forwarded mail Status: --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 09:45:18 1994 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA25020; Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:45:13 PST Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:45:13 PST Message-Id: <9401041745.AA25020@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [Cal Eastman ] >From shiva@freenet.scri.fsu.edu Tue Jan 4 09:45:08 1994 Received: from freenet2.scri.fsu.edu by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA25014; Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:45:08 PST Received: by freenet2.scri.fsu.edu id AA22426 (5.67a/IDA-1.5 for ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu); Tue, 4 Jan 1994 12:45:03 -0500 From: Cal Eastman Message-Id: <199401041745.AA22426@freenet2.scri.fsu.edu> Subject: Re: PLUR in effect in all areas... To: r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu (Krystin . Dauchy) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 12:45:03 EST Cc: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU In-Reply-To: <9401040116.AA12856@dax.cc.uakron.edu>; from "Krystin . Dauchy" at Jan 3, 94 8:16 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3.1 PL11] > > > > > > > china- id have to agree that this subculture is special- but it is NOT > > unique- The modern psychadelic culture has many branches which the > > members of feel the same way about as u do rave culture- > > trance/dance and teh togetherness it enhances is tens if not hundreds > > of thousands of years old- do not mistake a new shoot as teh whole > > plant > > peaceout > > > > > > -- > > Boom shiva > > mahalinga nataraj > > :) > > (puffiness 4evah) > > > Hey ya! I guess that *unique* was an inproperly thought out describer > for what I was trying to express...but *hey* don't discount the whole > message due to one word! > > What i am trying to say is that *so many* people *never* experience the > togetherness that * get from the PLUR at raves. I know that many > subcultures exist and harmonize in many ways. I am just giving thanks > to somethings that have made *my* life more enriching...and I was glad > for the fact that I needen't travel 600 miles and take drugs to have the > fun (not that I thought I had to) I was giving thanks to the other > net-raver I spent new-years with, as well as all the cybertribe for just > being them... > > > I was not trying to disrespec the PLUR in other sub/cultures I was just > appreciating the PLUR in what I know...and giving thanks to the other > net-raver I spent new years with and letting the other members of the > cybertribe know that I appreciate them and think they are special... > > that is all... > China > oh- i do not discount your experience- indeee i am warmed by it- Its just that there is a history ogf this sort of subculture in america, and globally- the tribes of teh "60's" - the deadheads today- etcetc share this feeling- i think its important we know the history of OUR culture- not just teh over culture- and we need to know whgo are our brothers and sisters as we trsavel this path peace -- Boom shiva mahalinga nataraj :) (puffiness 4evah) --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 09:51:24 1994 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA25185; Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:51:20 PST Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:51:20 PST Message-Id: <9401041751.AA25185@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell)] >From robcamp@tmn.com Tue Jan 4 09:51:14 1994 Received: from tmn.com by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA25177; Tue, 4 Jan 94 09:51:14 PST Received: by tmn.com (4.1/2.01) id AA01860; Tue, 4 Jan 94 12:51:56 EST Date: Tue, 4 Jan 94 12:51:56 EST From: robcamp@tmn.com (Robert Campanell) Message-Id: <9401041751.AA01860@tmn.com> To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: Ride available to Alchemy I have space in my car for three people. I'll be leaving from DC. If anyone is interested in getting a ride, please send e-mail this way. - Rob --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 11:40:53 1994 From: Tikki Date: 4-JAN-1994 14:35:36.10 Subject: EAST COASTERS IN THA HOUSE.... Status: Hey Netkids, How is everything on the East Coast? I am in a town where techno is defined by JBID,Phantom of the Opera, and Move any Mountain. But, the stores actually SELL some compilations etc. Of course, I have most of them, but, I am happy to see they are trying. well, I hear it snowed a lot out there. No snow here in Illinois, tho. Take care everyone, have a great time raving over break. It would have been a perfect opportunity for me, but life here moves a little slower. Later, everyone! Tasha [Hades] ================================================================================ tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu zannzibar! zannzibar! enfin, c'est trop! ================================================================================ From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 12:12:19 1994 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 12:11:56 -0800 Subject: ALCHEMY update Status: Make *sure* you call the Technopolis line at 908-572-0259 before you leave for Alchemy. If the weather is going to be really bad we could possibly cancel the party or move it to a back up location (which would be in NYC). Please check your ne-raves mail *AND* the phone line for details on the afternoon of the party. As of this writing no cancellation or site change decisions have been made. Sorry for any inconvenience. We knew we were taking a risk scheduling a party in January. Hopefully it will all work out. Laura From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 16:38:00 1994 From: "Susan R. Kameny" Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 16:31:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: fuck you baltimore sun Status: i was not made aware of any sun artical over the summer..melzie could you send me the date so i can look in the archives from it...i think the best 2 articale on raves were in the city paper and in the sf chronicle...and the all time best on the phenomenoa itself were in the international jouranal of addictions and in the chronicle of higher education...i still think that is one of the worst articals that could have been written...partyon...susie (: On Tue, 4 Jan 1994, Mel-zo-rama wrote: > > > I must say though two things.... > > Over the summer, the Sun DID have the BEST article EVER on raves, written > by a raver herself.....so I wouldn't say "fuck you" to the paper itself... > > Also, somethnig funny: I just watched a news show a few minutes > ago...where they spoke about the rave, saying that Roger Hayden wanted it > inspected for drugs and such..and that police say none where to be found.... > > In one way, we win.....to a degree.....this also means that the board > will let Lonnie hold other events.... > > ALTHOUGH, I still believe Sir Roger Hayden needs a little talking to, > when I'm more awake later, I'll post his address....I would honestly love > to see him flooded with mail, I'm going to mail off tons of reviews and > all about raving from ravers.... > > HUGZ to all! > > Melzie From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 17:09:00 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 20:08:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: fuck you baltimore sun Status: On Tue, 4 Jan 1994, Susan R. Kameny wrote: > i was not made aware of any sun artical over the summer..melzie could you > send me the date so i can look in the archives from it...i think the best > 2 articale on raves were in the city paper and in the sf chronicle...and > the all time best on the phenomenoa itself were in the international > jouranal of addictions and in the chronicle of higher education...i still > think that is one of the worst articals that could have been > written...partyon...susie (: The article was from August 15, 1993 Mel From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 17:29:22 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 20:24:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Article2 Status: Okee, well, today the Sun posted another article by another editor...I would say that the the only things terribly about this article are the direct quotes by those sweet little men; Mr. Roger Hayden [who some of you may have voted for :) ] and Mr. Michael D. Gimbel. Anyways....here ya go....Article Numba Two :) Oh, and if you'd like to...PLEASE mail me past reviews and thoughts on raving [if you've saved them, letters you want mailed [so you don't have to waste stamps] or a request for their addresses. HUGZ! Melanie ****************************************************************************** BALTIMORE COUNTY DROPS CALL FOR PROBE OF "RAVE" PARTY Police say nothing illegal was observed by Glenn Small [staff writer] In the hours following an all-night teen-age rave party at the Timonium Fairgrounds new Year's Eve, Baltimore County executive Roger Hayden called for county police and prosecuters to fully investigate alleged drug and alcohol use at the party. By yesturday, that call had faded like a bad hangover. "We're not going to do anything about the party that was just held," said sgt. Stephen Doarnberger, a county police spokesman. "We don't ahve any complaints. Our officers didn't observe anything illegal going on." County officials resersed course yesturday afternoon after Mr. Hayden met with police chief Michael D. Gambrill; deputy state's attorney Sue A. Schenning; Nancy West, an assistant county attorney; and Michael M. Gimbel, director of the office of substance abuse. After the meeting, Mr. Gimbel said county officials were considering ways to better monitor and control rave parties in Baltimore County. "We're not out to ban rave parties in Baltimore County," he said. "We want them to have events for kids that are alcohol-free and secure." The debate over what happened at the party, held in the Cow Palace of the state fairgrounds from 10 PM Friday night to midday Saturday, continued yesturday. Although he saw no overt drug use, or drinking, Mr. Gimbel said, he believes illegal drugs were being used and alcohol was consumed. He said he saw people smoking in cars no the parking lot, which was littered with empty beer bottles and alchol containers. Mr. Gimbel, who considers himself an expert on drug use, said he believes the people were smoking marijuana. He also said he thought security was poor and that the darkened dance floor was dangerous. "We're very fortunate and grateful that ntohing really horrible happened," he said. "Our concern is that something terrible could happen." Lonnie Fisher, who organized the party said yesturday that he was glad the investigetion had been called off and tat he had ntohing to hide. "I welcome and investigation," he said. About 2500 young people attended the party paying $20 to $25 each to dance to loud techno-music and revel in an acompanying laser light show. Thirteen private security guards monitored the entrances and checked for alcohol, glass containers and weapons. The searches were not full bodied searches. Mr. Gimbel said he visited the party at 10 PM Friday and 9:30 AM Saturday. He said he saw what he believed were people under age 18 t the party, including 12- and 13- year-olds. Mr. Fisher called the accusations "absolutly rediculous" and criticized Mr. Gimbel for not allerting police if he thought something illegal was happening. "If he saw 12- or 13- year old kids there, why didn't he call the police?" asked Mr. Fisher. "What kind of public official is he? If he aw all of those things, why didn't call police?" Mr. Gimbel said he was "in a really awkward position." On the one hand, he wanted to call polie and fire officials and shut the party down, he said, but on the other, he was afraind such action might cause a riot. Mr. Fisher said he didn't see any underaged children at the party or anyone using illegal drugs. If he had, he said, he would have asked them to leave or allerted police officers who were outside. Emily Dougal White, 24, worked for the company that provided the party's sound equipment. She said she has worked various concerts, public events and more than 20 rave parties. Ms. White said she saw people at the party who she believes were on drugs, but that she didn't see anybody take drugs. She said she also has seen people on drugs at Dolly Parton and Niel Diamond concerts. "You get that in any large crowd," she said. "The kids did behave themselves." From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 18:03:12 1994 From: djentox@aol.com Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 21:02:54 EST Subject: Re: Aircraft Carrier Rave Status: Hey Y'all! Yes, there is going to be an aircraft carrier rave Jan. 22 in NY Harbor. It's called SYNERGY and Line-up is : Adam X - Frankie Bones - Osheen - James Christian - Scott Henry - Jason Jinx - Rio - Dave Trance - Jared - L.G. (Laurent Garnier?) - Space Ace & Detrick of P909. I guess they want to advertise this rather heavily- I found the flyer at a John Fluevog shoe store (!) It says the rave will be inside the hanger deck on the Intrepid Aircraft Carrier S.Q. West 46th St. & 12th Ave. NYC (An address for an aircraft carrier?..hmmm) IMO, the flyer looks rather silly..I kept wondering if this was an actual rave..but it is! It looks to have a PLUR vibe, but it costs 20 bucks! Although, I'd probably pay that just to hear Adam =) Peace, djentoxdjentoxdjentoxdjentox@aol.aol.aol.aol.aol.com.com.com.com djentox@aol.com From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 18:19:33 1994 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 21:18:19 -0500 Subject: Thursday Night in Boston (pre-venus) Status: ok what i am going to do is make this simple we'll meet at pizzeria uno in kenmore square and have dinner there It is right next to landsdowne so it'll be easy to park your cars once or ride the T once....we'll meet at 9:45 I guess please please please...email me to let me know who is going so that I will reserve the right size table...they do have a waiting list otherwise. I know so far to count myself, vanessa, rob, jason (tintern), and one other as definites...if you are not on that list and are coming plesase email me asap Love and Frogs!!! Neith From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 18:39:49 1994 From: ncp@csmvax.simmons.edu (Neith Preston) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 1994 21:38:36 -0500 Subject: alchemy and a plea Status: well seeing as it doesn't sound liek there will be a get together before i really need to find someone to please pick me up in Jersey City on their way to alchemy...or soemone else to meet up with....otherwise i doubt i can go...I'll be in the city with my mother and she will not want me trying to figure out the subway system at night alone for my first time solo.... and i agree...so unless there is someone for me to go with i can't go please...soemone mail me back Love and Frogs!!! Neith From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 20:17:52 1994 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Tue, 04 Jan 94 23:01:47 -0400 Subject: Re: Aircraft Carrier Rave Status: The Intrepid for a party?! That's got to be one of the strangest places for an event that I've ever heard of. What's the parking situation like over there? Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 20:56:57 1994 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Tue, 04 Jan 1994 23:56:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: its gettin' outta hand... Status: hmmm...i dont know where this post is gonna go, and i run the chance of being completly ignorant about the situation, but i need to talk. im scared. truly scared about what i've been observing recently. its getting out of hand before, i go on, let me add some info: i am NOT by any means anti-drug, even though i personally dont do 'em...i have no problem with the e or pot smoking or other little things that are part of our little family...but what i have been noticing is eating at me, and im worried. worried that one of us could just "poof" out of existance, like that. the point? ive noticed that more and more people (it seems) are getting into the harder stuff, the stuff that is almost guarenteed to be a mess. at resolution, every single stall in the mens room seemed to have the sound of sniffing behind it, both times i went in there as a matter of fact. now, i know its none of my buisiness, or maybe im just nieve, but it depressed me- ive had at least 3 good friends who are now basically empty shells from coke use, and it bothers me that the same thing might be happening to other people i care about. and to compound it, for some this isnt a once-in-a-while thing. its not uncommon for any of us to go to parties every weekend, sometimes more than once a weekend. whats not to say this doesnt happen all the time? and it hits home...i was talking a little while ago to someone on vrave (no names) and he mentioned person in this way, and i quote : "hes cool, ive done coke with him". this person is a friend of mine, one of our own, and im scared that i might never get to talk to him again.... am i wrong in thinking this way? should i have nothing to worry about? someone please tell me,'cause i dont know. i was talking to jenn bug tonight on the phone, discussing this, and she told me that at univibe there were people shooting up in the girls b-room, right out in the open...and she agreed with me that this sort of thing seems to be getting more prevalent. (on a side note, she seemed to get the same bad e that was posted about earlier ....so kids, be careful out there-buy from confirmed reliable sources, 'cause you cant trust a lot of people these days) id like to hear some responses on this...i wanna know if i have a legitimate concern or im just a neurotic bastard :) remember, "its all fun and games till someone loses an eye" :) -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< ps: resolution revue soon From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 21:26:35 1994 From: panik@netaxs.com (Michael Morris) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 00:21:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: its gettin' outta hand... Status: I too am noticing that some of us are getting into the harder stuff. I used to do Acid and pot ALOT at events. I had a bad trip at Caffeine to the point where I flipped out! With the exception of weed every now and then, I do not do drugs. Especially the hard stuff. It is a mattrer of choice. Some people go to raves for the drugs. Others (like myself) go for the tunez. There are other reasons also. It is ok to get scared for our v/ne-raves pals out there. I am also scared that their next post might be their last (Do I sound like a commercial or what?). But I also face the fact that that is and always will be a part of raving whether we like it or not. Let's just hope our rave friends stick around long enuff to attend the next one. Peace Out Hack AT&T Rave on! Panik From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 4 22:40:22 1994 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 01:40:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: finally...resolution review Status: wow, what can i say....resolution was one of the best events ive been to. this is remarkible because: 1) im usually not too exited about mega-huge events. i usually go for the smaller, more intimate stuff 2) there was not ONE breaks set :( 3) i usually bitch about having to pay $20 or more to go to a rave. im poor! but, believe me, it was well worth it! i am convinced that very few people besides ultraworld can pull something like this off successfully....i mean, everything was near perfect: a HUGE space (lots of people and i was in no way cramped), great talent(i especially liked bob bently's set), lighting to die for (translation:more intellibeams than the last 3-4 events ive gone to, COMBINED), a great attitude, and a wonderful squooshy vibe. add in the little xtras like the moonbounce (ive never been on one before-went on it 3 times :P) gyroscope, and other stuff, and....well, it fit in! i suppose ill start at melzies preparty, which was quite neet. mmmmmm...chicken! mel had quite a spred for all us hungry ravekidz. thanks mel! the place was quite cool, too-perfect for a small little micro-rave (hint hint) chalk up jetta to my list of neravers ive met :) yay! the rave itself started at 9pm, and when we got there at about 10:15 there were already a large amounbt of people. i could NOT believe the size of this place: if it was any bigger we'd need those airport moterized walkways to move around on :) eventually we all situated ourself near jake's setup (btw: the visuals were, as usual, superb. much more impressive than the other guys who used thatvideo tape) one by one, the netrave crew began to filter in: me, jetta, fran, alan, jake, laura, brian (another new contact), kevin (and another), shellE/xiola, jeannie, cmellow, jenn-bug, pitts. jenn, hossam, mards, derek, steve/fluff, rob, john rainbow, and others were all there :) and the hugging girl was there too, though i only saw her once-and the guy she was with looked annoyed when i hugged her . bummer :( BUT...i got not one but TWO great massages that night (from pitts. jenn and steves gf savannah (?)) so im not complaining....mmmmmmm..... highlight of the night....when micro threw in 808 states "in yer face"... WOW. i was going crazy to hear it there!!!!! wow wow wow oh yeah, i finally got to meet taylor,too. i dont want to forget him and tina in my list above...andy was there too :) all in all...a wonderful wonderful time for me...even though i found out that my dancers and good friends from richmond are moving to cali :( oh well -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 05:47:11 1994 From: t808@mindvox.phantom.com (taylor deupree) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 94 08:50:01 EST Subject: Re: Aircraft Carrier Rave Status: apparently the Intrepid has held parties for a few years... someone i work with used to spin breakdancing music in the *HUGE* aircraft hanger.. he said it was AMAZING.. don't miss it! and don't miss "detrick" from P-909... (it's really spelled Dietrich) peace >>taylor __________________________________ | Roland O O O O O O Bassline | | - - - - | | | | | | | | TB-303 | | | have you hugged | - - - - | your 303 today? |----------------------------------| | <> <> [] [] [] [] <> | | <::> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [] []| __________________________________ From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 06:51:52 1994 From: steveh@susq.com (Steve Hormell) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 94 09:51:36 EST Subject: Re: Bad E, etc. Status: The best book i have found on E is 'E for Ecstasy' 'E for Ecstasy' by Nicholas Saunders the isbn # 0-9501628-8-4 it only has ordering through N. Saunders 14 Neal's Yard London WC2H 9DP England I found it in an underground book store, in philly. It has a sparkly cover and it the most wonderful referance book for the drug. -- fluffhead From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 07:17:46 1994 From: steveh@susq.com (Steve Hormell) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 94 10:17:13 EST Subject: Re: its gettin' outta hand... Status: Drug use getting outta hand? That has been the major discussion going on between my friends and i. I am a drug user. I try not to be a drug abuser....there is a difference. I don't mind most things, to each his own...but everything should be done smartly. I'm tired of having to babysit friends because they took too much of one thing or mixed too heavily. Use your head. Realize that taking 3 e's at once is only going to cause you to be a burden on your friends. Remember that the party usually will go on all night long (and sometimes, half the next day, and there is no reason to go apeshit with usage as soon as you get there. Also research what you are doing to yourself. There are many good files accesable by FTP that can tell you what's going on when you bump k, or take too much e. And don't get out of control. I've had so many friends that have burned themselves out having such a good time, they no longer could have a good time. It almost happened to me. Finally I really don't see a place for these drugs people are bringing with them to parties. Esp. coke and dope. I cannot stand those...i don't like to hear about them, and i really don't like to see them. But if people are going to do them anyway....they should at least keep a low profile. I feel these drugs are worse than A, E and pot combined. I also noticed that around NYC, these and other crazy drugz are more common..and almost accepted. At Universal Vibe, almost every group of kidz i talked to, was on dope or coke. Hearing this from everybody around me made the two hours wait to get in, even worse. All of this is strickly IMHO. -- fluffhead From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 07:19:06 1994 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 07:18:06 -0800 Subject: Re: alchemy and a plea Status: Look, if someone wants an Alchemy pre-or-after party then take the initiative and PLAN ONE. Just pick a place and time and tell us all where to be. That is how things get done, you know? :-) The Alchemy Crew doesn't have the time to plan associated parties, it's been worrisome enough getting the event itself off the ground. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 07:55:12 1994 From: Edward Potter Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 07:54:23 -0800 Subject: Re: ALCHEMY update Status: Move to NYC? Yeah!!!!!! Shelter still vacant? From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 08:18:51 1994 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 08:17:53 -0800 Subject: Re: ALCHEMY update Status: Edward Potter writes: >Move to NYC? Yeah!!!!!! Maybe, maybe not. Please stay tuned. >Shelter still vacant? Yes, but we sure as hell can't afford it. We've budgeted $300 for space rental. Laura From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 08:18:53 1994 From: Edward Potter Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 08:18:30 -0800 Subject: Re: Aircraft Carrier Rave Status: Parking is great and cheap. Just don't leave anything in your car! From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 08:24:36 1994 From: Francis L Sibilla Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 11:20:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ARTICLE (resolution) Status: Could you please post Mr. Hayden's address. I think it could help if we gave him our thoughts about the event via e-mail so he can realize that we are intellegent people with access to a variety of media and not just a bunch of 12 and 13 year olds out to get fucked up. Fran From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 08:31:59 1994 From: Laura La Gassa Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 08:31:41 -0800 Subject: address change Status: If you are not using my laura@soda.berkeley.edu address to send me email, please do. My other addresses are disappearing tomorrow evening (Thursday). Thanks, and sorry for flooding your mailboxes. Laura laura@soda.berkeley.edu From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 11:21:47 1994 From: djm@bedford.progress.COM (Dave McMahon) Date: Wed, 5 Jan 94 14:20:56 EST Subject: Re: Bad E, etc. Status: > The best book i have found on E is 'E for Ecstasy' > > 'E for Ecstasy' > by Nicholas Saunders > > the isbn # 0-9501628-8-4 > > it only has ordering through > N. Saunders > 14 Neal's Yard > London WC2H 9DP > England > > I found it in an underground book store, in philly. It has a sparkly > cover and it the most wonderful referance book for the drug. I just saw that book myself yesterday in the Seven Stars bookstore in Harvard Square Cambridge, MA. It's there if anyone in the Boston area is interested. dave. From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 11:44:13 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Wed, 5 Jan 1994 14:44:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: ARTICLE (resolution) Status: On Wed, 5 Jan 1994, Francis L Sibilla wrote: > > Could you please post Mr. Hayden's address. I think it could help if we > gave him our thoughts about the event via e-mail so he can realize that we > are intellegent people with access to a variety of media and not just a > bunch of 12 and 13 year olds out to get fucked up. Via e-mail? Um......I have an address to mail him snail mail...but that's it... Mel From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 12:43:39 1994 From: LEDERJASO@urvax.urich.edu Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 15:43:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: a request... Status: does anyone out there have the address for moving shadow records in the uk? i would like to sent them a tape, but i have nowhere to send it to! :) thanks, -jason/method one >>>scene but not herd<<< From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 14:34:12 1994 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 17:04:07 EST Subject: Metro Status: Cybertribe: If you live in New Jersey, come check out METRO on it's new night every Thursday at the Fast Lanes in Asbury Park. It's phat and cheap and I'll put you on the reduced list. e-mail me if you want more info. Myself and G-Money are the resident DJs as well as other hot local talent. If you're interested in spinning here, e-mail me as well or call me at: (908)724-9711. Peace and Unity, DJ Mars From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 14:36:22 1994 From: EHDV19C@prodigy.com (MISS JENNIFER A KANE) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 1994 17:35:29 EST Subject: pre-alchemy party Status: if anyone is frequenting albany on the way to alchemy, we are plannig a pre-party at the shalimar restaurant on central ave. they have really good indian food-alot of vegetarian dishes,and they are really cheap! w/b for directions, more info, time and to reserve your space. peace out...peppermint patty From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 17:15:32 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Wed, 05 Jan 94 20:11:39 EST Subject: SMART SnoKones Status: greetings, If anyone out there would like to have SMART SnoKnoes at their rave, techno party, club, or what ever "The Trilobite Project", made up of peppermint patty and I is now in full swing. We will be happy to bring our machine to your next party just write c/o this e-mail address, and if you want a phone number, drop a letter, and I'll send you one. Peace out... xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 17:17:02 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Wed, 05 Jan 94 20:14:47 EST Subject: synergy organizers Status: If anyone out there is involved in organizing the synergy party, could you please drop me a line, as I have a few questions for you. Thanx... xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 5 19:36:10 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Wed, 05 Jan 94 22:34:09 EST Subject: red organizers Status: if anyone who is organizing RED is online, or if anyone knows them could you please respond to this message...thanx xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Thu Jan 6 10:54:03 1994 From: vkuperma@mason1.gmu.edu () Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 13:53:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Metro Status: Soundz intersesting d00d...I live in DC...not too phar away... do they like hartcore? if not, I'll grow on them. ;) My voice # is (703) 242-3779... laterz, Speed Demon From ne-raves-owner Thu Jan 6 12:13:37 1994 From: laura@soda.berkeley.edu (Laura La Gassa) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 12:12:41 -0800 Subject: Alchemy Update (2) Status: Okay, here is the latest on Alchemy: The original site was up in New Hempstead/Spring Valley, NY. On New Year's Eve we got a phone call from the owner telling us the pipes had burst in the place. We've been in contact with the owner a few times since then and they're still working on it and don't have an answer for us yet as to if it will be ready in time or not. So, Will, Phil, and I are all checking out other leads. A decision will be made tomorrow as to IF the party will be held and then WHERE the site will be. It might be in New York City or it might be down by the New Jersey Shore. Please check your email and the Technopolis phone line (908) - 572 - 0259 before you leave to find out details. Sorry for the confusion. Laura From ne-raves-owner Thu Jan 6 12:51:50 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 15:51:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Grooviest Coconut and Modern Music Thoughts Status: Well, yes, it's true that Modern Music used to be Tripotronic and that after the Earth event, they decided not to use that name anymore....although, what happened at Earth I don't consider to really be their fault....it was more misunderstandings dealing with permits and such.....I'm going to Spiritual Movement and REALLY looking forward to it! Not only will there be a 3 hous set of tribal beats [to bring me back to my Wiccan past...and one of the reasons I started raving in the first place] but THIS time I'm bringing my MOTHER with me :) !!! It should be a blast! Oh..also, I learned something new at my pre gathering... I brought one of the REAL "One Groovy Coconut"s with me to show 'em... when I tossed it to Derek, he happened to begin reading directions... ONE GROOVY COCONUT: To prepare coconut- Pierce on "eye" with an icepick. Drain milk and save for recipes. Tap shell sharpley on groove with hemmer, revealing white flesh within. Seperate shell from flesh and remove thin brown membrane with vegetable peeler. Enjoy! Is that hystercial or what?! Anyways....mail me anymore HOM info you may have it... HUGZ! Melanie From ne-raves-owner Thu Jan 6 18:30:56 1994 From: grant@world.std.com (Grant D McHerron) Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 21:30:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: I'm Alive, I Survived - weeee :) Status: Hey Folks, Well, the weather down here in Sydney is about 36 degrees Celcius, my tan is coming along nicely, the sailing is wonderful, the crowd is hip & cool ( well, the one's I'm hanging with are :), the brand is healing well but itching a bit, the chemicals are flowing and I can't wait to get back to Boston and see you lot again ( planned trips to SF, NY, etc as soon as I get back :). Sydney is a *great* place to party but I don't think it's home any more. I keep thinking of my red-brick back in Boston ( and hoping Pholida hasn't trashed it - naa, I know she hasn;t :) and all the raves with the NE-Rave cast & crue. Missing you lot heaps and can't wait tosee you all at the first Back 2 Basics for the new year ( roll on Spring :). Until I'm back ( around March ), take care and don't freeze up there. I shall return, there will be a "I'm Back and It's Party Time" rave ( even if I have to do one myself :) and Boston will NEVER be the same again :) Grant From ne-raves-owner Thu Jan 6 20:30:48 1994 From: Michel Battaglia Date: Thu, 6 Jan 1994 23:15:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: its gettin' outta hand... Status: :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: crushin' On Wed, 5 Jan 1994, Steve Hormell wrote: > > > Drug use getting outta hand? That has been the major discussion going > on between my friends and i. I am a drug user. I try not to be a drug > abuser....there is a difference. I don't mind most things, to each his > own...but everything should be done smartly. I'm tired of having to > babysit friends because they took too much of one thing or mixed too > heavily. Use your head. Realize that taking 3 e's at once is only > going to cause you to be a burden on your friends. Remember that the party usually will go on all night long (and sometimes, half the next > day, and there is no reason to go apeshit with usage as soon as you > get there. Also research what you are doing to yourself. There are > many good files accesable by FTP that can tell you what's going on > when you bump k, or take too much e. And don't get out of control. > I've had so many friends that have burned themselves out having such > a good time, they no longer could have a good time. It almost > happened to me. > > Finally I really don't see a place for these drugs people are > bringing with them to parties. Esp. coke and dope. I cannot stand > those...i don't like to hear about them, and i really don't like to > see them. But if people are going to do them anyway....they should at > least keep a low profile. I feel these drugs are worse than A, E and > pot combined. I also noticed that around NYC, these and other crazy > drugz are more common..and almost accepted. At Universal Vibe, almost > every group of kidz i talked to, was on dope or coke. Hearing this > from everybody around me made the two hours wait to get in, even > worse. > > All of this is strickly IMHO. > > -- > fluffhead i couldn't agree more. waht's up with the E that people are taking? a dealer once said to me "this is waht's called e these days'..he had a nice mix of heroin, crystal meth and ephedrine, which apparently is what i was sold at resolution. Although it's pretty powerful stuff, it's definitely not worth it. and it certainly is not worth the $25 i paid for it. I also agree on the rash of nasty substances going around (and around and around). My theory is that the club kids from NYC have adopted raves and bought their gnarly drugs with them. Whatever.Friends of mine found someone's ATM card...the person that lost it was using it to cut coke in the bathroom. yuck. Anyway, i ust wanted to tell you i agree, and understand. btw, it's good to be back! :) mikebee From ne-raves-owner Thu Jan 6 20:46:53 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Thu, 06 Jan 94 23:43:33 EST Subject: alchemy pre-party in albany Status: anyone interrested in the alchemy pre-party in albany stay tooned for directions, and info, and location, and all that other stuff. IT IS HAPPENING (assuming alchemy is happening), and should me the shit. Peppermint patty will post all the details as soon as they are known... peace out, and cross your fingers that those pipes get fixed mad fast! :) xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 02:55:33 1994 From: zonker@cyberia.com Date: Fri, 07 Jan 94 02:44:16 Subject: Bounces Status: TO: NE-RAVES@TECHNO.STANFORD.EDU Anyone who emailed me yesterday, I'm sorry about the bounced mail. The BBS which maintains my email address had some sorta evil trouble (the sysop took some bad acid or something [just kidding Adam]) and bounced all my mail for like 24 hrs. ... Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play? --- ~ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 ~ From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 10:02:02 1994 From: WILL-E Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 13:01:52 EST Subject: ALCHEMY CANCELLED Status: Due to really bad weather in the area continuing until tomorrow, we are unable to go check out a new site for the party which means we are cancelling the party. A big concern as well is the number of people driving from all over through icy roadways & such. Sorry folks... :( ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 12:14:37 1994 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 15:12:20 EST Subject: pre-alchemy thingy in albany Status: well, seeing as alchemy is a no-go, i am going to go thru withdrawl due to my week-long level of excitation and expectation. so, i propose, since albany and up won't get hit with real bad weather, that we head up to my place, and have a small gethering in my barn loft apartment. i mean small, mebbe 40 of us max, but ive got speakers there and an amp, and turntables (not 1200's---far from, actually) but no mixer. i might be able to hook up with 1200s and a mixer, and more speakers, but we'll see. If it hap- pens, it WON'T go all night, i've got neighbors....and i would ask for a dollar or two donation for the sound system....i could get Klockwork, Medicine man, myself (sprockett), and possibly stingray or space.....who knows. I think i have a strobe light too......rad....back to basics in upstate!!!!!!YAY! if anyone wants to come: call me @518.695.6489 or Cori @ 518.463.2548. im 30 miles north of albany.... and call me if you were gonna spin at alchemy and are coming from the north... mebbe you could spin here instead...... responses, feedback, questions? DON'T EMAIL me....i wont be able to check my messages until tommorrow night or sunday! use the Phone instead! alternate alchemy party in effect? sprockett! y From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 15:06:19 1994 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 18:04:07 EST Subject: otherALCHEMY in albany Status: ok, ive got a place nailed down, and 1200's and an appropriate sound system. i also have 4 dj's from house to hardcore to ACID JAZZ! time = 9pm-midnight on LARK street in albany. this is basically going to be an in-house rave...... remember, don't return email to me with ?'s or comments, call me @518.695.6489 or call Gearhead after 12noon tomorrow (saturday) @ 518.463.2548 it'll be small but fum. cost=200 cents. sprockett YAY! something is still gonna happen....albany is expecting only 3inches of snow TONIGHT, and it'll be more than cleared by tomorrow night From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 18:21:28 1994 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Fri, 07 Jan 94 17:56:09 -0400 Subject: Alchemy cancellation Status: For you folks scouting sites and arranging for a sound system, the party may be cancelled, but I appreciate all the effort that went into it. Perhaps wait until mid spring, and have an outdoor event right by the ocean. Maybe the Jersey shore, Long Island's south shore beaches, or someplace along the coastline of Connecticut, Rhode Island or Mass. would be awesome. Oh well, see you guys at Synergy. I think I'll do soemthing exciting, like teach my parents how to use Windows 3.1 Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 18:57:52 1994 From: David Sarcastic Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 21:55:37 -0400 (EST) Subject: Re: Alchemy cancellation Status: On Fri, 7 Jan 1994, Bob Baxter wrote: > For you folks scouting sites and arranging for a sound system, the party > may be cancelled, but I appreciate all the effort that went into it. Ditto. Thanks folks!!!!! > Perhaps wait until mid spring, and have an outdoor event right by the > ocean. Maybe the Jersey shore, Long Island's south shore beaches, or > someplace along the coastline of Connecticut, Rhode Island or Mass. > would be awesome. Yeah! Mmmmm..warm weather...ocean....bass...[no, no, not the fishy kind:)]..that'll keep me smiling all winter! > Oh well, see you guys at Synergy. I think I'll do soemthing exciting, > like teach my parents how to use Windows 3.1 Ahh, a joy I know well. :) And I've just started them on Unix..wheeee! .........1.11.21.1211.111221.312211.13112221.1113213211.31131211131221......... .wash...rinse...agitate...explode...DIE!!! - Dishwasher, _Ghost in the Machine. ...dave sklar \ sklar@minerva.cis.yale.edu \ "i just grin as i walk" - bboys... From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 19:08:12 1994 From: WILL-E Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 22:08:05 EST Subject: ??? Status: who ne-raves From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 20:06:18 1994 From: sss@netcom.com (Stefan Stasik) Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 20:06:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: venus tonight with the gang Status: Hi all!! 1:37 AM a snowy night in quiet allston.... (cooold night (12 F)) Just got back from a coooool time at venus with the gang... It was great to finally put faces on the names and posts! I didn't say goodnight to everybody, so I just wanted to do so now.. Neith, thanks for organizing and grabbing the table.. Rob, Marc, Jill, Jim, Nessa'. and i can't rememeber who else.. Thanks! It was great to meet you all., and Hopefully hopefully! see you at Alchem! a heavily zoned deej' hits IT (the hay...) ;) !! - Stefan Stefan Stasik ** Brighton Ave., Boston, MA USA ** IRC: DJay ** No Commercial Potential - WZBC 90.3 FM Newton, Mass. sss@netcom.com -* America Is One Big Info-Mercial! *- From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 01:26:52 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 04:26:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOM SUBMISSIONS Status: I didn't send one out this week since all but 2 were for Alchemy...and well....that would have been pointless pretty much.... So please mail me submissions soon for next weeeknd since it's a biggies Synergy, Spiritual Movement II, Garden of Earthly Delights Okee? Cool.... HUGZ Melanie From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 11:19:37 1994 From: sashay@mindvox.phantom.com (Ashley Goebel) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 94 14:21:33 EST Subject: Party Tonight! Status: I just got a call from Alan Sanctuary (the guy behind UNiVibe)...he's having a party tonight in Manhattan. 547 W.21st St. Between 10th and 11th Ave. In a purple bldg. Admission is $10. If you need anymore info E-mail me before 8ish tonight. ...spam (chris) From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 11:20:20 1994 From: djentox@aol.com Date: Sat, 08 Jan 94 14:20:04 EST Subject: Has everyone gotten their zines? Status: Hey All, Just wonderin' if everyone who wanted a copy of "The Skreem" got one... Some people have said they haven't and I just hope everyone got one...If not, I'm sorry and I'll mail you a copy of the next ish..please e-mail me !!! If you want the ish that was promised to you I think I have enough to re-send. Sorry if you haven't recieved one... =( =( Crying in The snow... DJ Entox From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 11:44:16 1994 From: EHDV19C@prodigy.com (MISS JENNIFER A KANE) Date: Sat, 08 Jan 1994 14:43:12 EST Subject: alchemy alternative Status: yo hos!, pepermint patty and mistress loretta will be attending the alchemy party in albany tonight. so keep your ho eyes open for some queens rockin' the house! watch out for marcie, charlie brown, linus and lucy too. xx peanut gang From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 13:19:57 1994 From: "Chris C. Kozup" Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 16:19:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Spiritual Movement II Status: Hello.. I was just wondering if any one is going to Spiritual Movement II? I have a van of about seven people who are coming all the way from OHIO!!! We are all excited about going!! :) We don't get over to that part of the country all that often. Does anyone know if it is supposed to be good? I hope so.. the line up looks awesome, considering DJ Dmitry is my favorite DJ in the whole world. Well I would appreciate any input on the subject. See you all soon! -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 14:26:58 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 17:26:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Spiritual Movement II Status: On Sat, 8 Jan 1994, Chris C. Kozup wrote: > Hello.. I was just wondering if any one is going to Spiritual Movement > II? I have a van of about seven people who are coming all the way from > OHIO!!! We are all excited about going!! :) We don't get over to that > part of the country all that often. Does anyone know if it is supposed > to be good? I hope so.. the line up looks awesome, considering DJ > Dmitry is my favorite DJ in the whole world. > Well I would appreciate any input on the subject. See you all soon! I'll be there!! Gil's coming too, I think Steve promised not to miss it along with his posse so there will definatly be some net people there!!! It should really be great and I'm majorly excited!!! If anyone wants to meet for dinner before hand...mail me :) Melzie From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 16:45:31 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Sat, 08 Jan 94 19:43:37 EST Subject: sm2 Status: could somebody e-mail me the detalis of spirlutal movement 2, please thanx... xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Sat Jan 8 17:33:27 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Sat, 8 Jan 1994 20:33:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: sm2 Status: Someone asked for it...so here it is :)..... Saturday, January 15 Baltimore 410.523.1882 modern music presents S P I R I T U A L M O V E M E N T I I arena one Dimitry ------------> dee-lite On-E ---------------> NYC Keoki --------------> disco 2000 Who ----------------> modern music Frankie Bones ------> NYC rave pioneer Chris & James ------> the garden club, UK laser performances by - s t i l t w a l k e r s p a w n g i a n t t w i s t e r ---arena two--- T o t a l T r i b a l C h i l l - o u t smart bar your spiritual leaders visuals by --------- ---------------------- ---------- neuro energy W I N K psilocybin synchro energize W A S H ---->Tribal drumming circle 6 hours of the most<---- ---->intense jungle beats from the tribal master<---- and many more surprises! p s y c h e c y b r a d i a n t l i g h t s h o w b y: S C O T T O ---- this event will take place in a fully legal loctaion whith a professional security team. all permits are secured. no drugs or alcohol permitted tickets and information contact: MODERN MUSIC 410.523.1882 To arrange a bus trip baltimore or vending, contact: MUSIC NOW 202.638.1213 410.523.1882 washington 611 RECORDS 215.513.9100 $15.00 philadelphia no tickets will be sold at the door. 100% legal, absolutely no drugs or alcohol! From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 9 13:49:13 1994 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 94 16:47:01 EST Subject: ALCHEMY LIVES IN ALBANY Status: ok, ive gotten it ALL together! tonight, sunday the 9th, at 108 central ave in albany, ny gearhead NY presents the ALCHEMY CONSOLATION party. from 10pm until, smart drinks=$1, dj's include medicine man, Sprockett, Stingray, Space, Klockwork, Ruff?, and others.....mebbe even a performance from manish and darshan (did dave get in touch with you guys yet?) We will have *TWO* rooms of music, featuring 4 tables and two dj's working together on the main floor *ALL* the time, and two tables in the other area. There will be hardcore, house, ACID JAZZ, trance, and some breakbeat. cost=$3 to benefit the club and the hungry in Albany. there is *NO* guest list, and this is INVITE ONLY! You must have the password to get by the guard. to get confirmed and receive the password, call gearhead @ 518.463.2548 explain who you are and how you found out about the party. then you'll get called back. this is PRIVATE, and should be treated as such. The doors WILL be locked after 12midnite. you can leave, but no one else will be admitted. i think that's it, i hope some can make it! I'll be there, so....if you come, then look for me...ask around, cuz most people there know me...... Sprockett From bbehlen Sun Jan 9 17:48:46 1994 From: bbehlen@techno.Stanford.EDU (Brian Behlendorf) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 1994 17:48:39 PST Subject: fwd Status: --- Forwarded mail from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU >From ne-raves-owner Fri Jan 7 01:46:58 1994 Received: by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA01431; Fri, 7 Jan 94 01:46:54 PST Date: Fri, 7 Jan 94 01:46:54 PST Message-Id: <9401070946.AA01431@techno.Stanford.EDU> To: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From: ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Subject: BOUNCE ne-raves@techno.stanford.edu: Non-member submission from [trance@netcom.com (Tamara Palmer)] >From trance@netcom.com Fri Jan 7 01:45:34 1994 Received: from mail.netcom.com (netcom6.netcom.com) by techno.Stanford.EDU (4.1/1.34) id AA01417; Fri, 7 Jan 94 01:45:34 PST Received: from localhost by mail.netcom.com (8.6.4/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id BAA29516; Fri, 7 Jan 1994 01:46:09 -0800 From: trance@netcom.com (Tamara Palmer) Message-Id: <199401070946.BAA29516@mail.netcom.com> Subject: Need Help With East Coast Mags To: ne-raves@techno.Stanford.EDU Date: Fri, 7 Jan 1994 01:46:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: dcraves@american.edu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 839 Hello, I am trying to get copies (new and old) of East Coast zines like Reactor, Slurp, Under One Sky and others that I may not know about... I have a tough time getting these out heare in California. If anyone would be willing to send me what they find, I can trade you for copies of URB or reimbursements, flyers, or whatever...please let me know! (reply privately, as I am not on these lists) Thanks! Tamara Palmer Women Respond To Bass ............................................................................... trance@netcom.com (the address of choice) izzyzi5@mvs.oac.ucla.edu izzypk3@mvs.oac.ucla.edu (yes, i is a college student) urbmag@netcom.com (open for your comments about URB Magazine!) ............................................................................... --- End of forwarded message from ne-raves-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU From ne-raves-owner Sun Jan 9 23:57:04 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Mon, 10 Jan 94 02:48:44 EST Subject: abyss Status: greetings, It's about 3am, amd I have to get up for class at 6:30, and I just got back from that provate party at the Abyss in albany, ny. It was, overall, pretty dope. Between the music being spun upstairs, and the shit downstairs the party was phat. At one point I was able to hear "I must increase my bust" by the Lords of Acid downstairs, and then 10min later "Ring, Ring, Ring " by the funky fellows. Two of my fav songs. And let me say thanx to Sprockett for spinning some dope tunes. I caught a bunch of his set, and it was really good. I think that most ppl at the party prefered his set, as the mojority of the ppl were upstairs dancing to his stuff. Well I've rambled on enough and I have alot of home work to do before school starts, so I'll sign off saying that the Friday there will be a techno party at the abyss with a $5 cover, and next sunday there will be another private party at the abyss (use same method to get on list), with a $3 cover. Both parties are all ages, and should be real phat. As soon as the DJ line-ups are out i'll try to post them. For directions to the abyss, or for other related info drop me a line....peace out! xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 01:40:33 1994 From: danFREELove Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 04:22:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Delta Parties! Status: Okay, can't give you a neat formatted text as I don't have the fliers (do they exist?) for this event, but here's the juice. Name: Delta (First in a series of Four) Date: Friday, January 28th Time: 10 pm Location: Someplace in Philly, precise location to be released on that night at 611 Records, 611 S. 4th St. - 215/413-9100 Entry Requirements: You must get a Delta Necklace (from whoever is giving them out). People with a necklace are allowed in with one guest (one guest per necklace). There will be a $3 entry donation at the door with everything over expenses going to a posted charity organization. DJ's: Nigel Richards Josh Wink Mark Coleman (WPRB) Visuals: Melon Dezign (JAKE!) Co-Sponsors: 611 Records Melon Dezign Under (Slurp! Magazine) Purpose: This is a special underground event that is being targetted at expanding the scene to new segments of the population and openning minds. Nigel Richards is organizing the Delta parties to fight the current segregation in the dance scene. In his own words, "Expect to see black, white, gay, straight, draq queens, rave junkies....you name it." He wants to create a nice melting pot. When I first heard about the necklace scheme I thought it was kind of elitist, but on hearing the point of the party I have to support the idea. It isn't elitist at all, he is trying to make sure that their is a good representation at the parties from various segments of the dance scene, so he needs to control entrance to proportionate representations of every segment. I am really excited about what he is doing and hope to be at the party with bells on (or maybe something less tame ;) ). Dan "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 01:46:17 1994 From: danFREELove Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 04:40:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: HEY ALL! Status: Welp, if you hadn't heard, I am finally back from my trip to the west. And quite happy to be in the cradle of the CyberTribe again. :) Okay, this means one serious thing. It means that we are going to be moving, and soon. I am going to start adding people to the new list here and will have everyone converted to the listserv here at UMD by Wednsday. I hope that enough people are back and resubscribed to NE Raves that this won't dislodge too many vacationing members. I will post the new address on Wednsday both here and to alt.rave so that people will know where we are. And whoever paged me Friday night with the message BOO-HELLO. That was clever, and perfectly timed. The plane had just finished landing at Dulles and I was just getting ready for the taxi to the gate when it came through. :) Now that's what I call good timing. Dan Ps. Did I mention that I really love Allison? ALOT? :) "Get Angry Stay Hungry Get Mean Stay Lean | Dan Philpott Say What You Mean And Say It Mean | Cogito Ergo Spud You Tell The Truth You Go To The Guillotine | I Think Therefore I Yam You Lose Your Head But Your Conscience Is Clean" | anarchy@eng.umd.edu From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 01:53:49 1994 From: kumquat@acs.bu.edu (Kristopher Setchfield) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 94 4:50:58 EST Subject: alchemy party at abyss..... Status: or should i say alchemy CONSOLATION party at abyss went rad! ok, it's 4:30, just got back, and already saw"mistress Loretta's" report... lemme expand a little before i nod-off. we had 47 people show! the door was locked! the turntables never stopped (all 6 of them)! free sugar bar! amazing VIBE! well, as ive heard in the past, small parties where only the people who CARE about the music are allowed in are AmazinG........Alchemy At Abyss was exactly this. these 47 people had an awesome time! the two room thing will happen again, cuz it went over really well (except for my needles skipping when people danced hard...but we solved that by 2:15a). having 4 tables for the main floor kept the energy going incessantly, from the openning hardcore to the trance, and the final house.......i died when i heard some of the mixes coming from down there (when i took a break from spinning upstairs. i dunno how much of a regular thing this'll become...but i know for sure that it will happen again....at least a few times. I know i had a good time, and the rest of the crew all had smiles bigger than their faces....... next time the heat'll be better though ;) to any and all who thought about coming and decided not to....i pity your loss. as "miss loretta" said, for info about upcoming stuff mail her/him....and/or call gearhead NY @ 518.463.2548 sprockett ---groovin to the beats still left in my head--- ;) From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 06:32:38 1994 From: David Burney Date: Mon, 10 Jan 94 9:32:12 EST Subject: You know you're a geek when... Status: You know you're a geek when.... the alarm clock goes off and you have to switch windows in your mind to get to it so you can turn it off. :) *seeking psychiatric counseling* goldenboy From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 19:10:45 1994 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 22:09:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: late Resolution review Status: I know this review is a little late, but I haven't really seen too many people post about it, so I figured I'd finally write a monster long essay about how cool it was. Okay, the Wundervan departed from DC a little after 10, filled with me, Ben Jaffe, Dan Lav, his sister, Jedd, and Elliot. When the Wundervan is filled to capacity like this, it can barely reach the speed limit, if that, so we were travelling in the right lane all the way up. For a while the engine started knocking real bad and we had to pull over to try to figure out what was going on. We eventually got moving again and celebrated New Year's in the parking lot of the Cow Palace, on our way to the door. The security search was pretty silly and pointless, a brief shine of a flashlight in my backpack, "Are those cookies in those tins?" "Yeah." "Okay.", a brief pat down. It was fine with me. I was reminded of the good ol' days when we used to bake cookies for raves, make smart drinks that we would bring in water bottles, bring lots of candy, etc. These days, if your water bottle isn't sealed and unopened, they won't let you bring it in. So the door policy at Resolution was definitely a plus. Inside I was blown away by the size of the event. The main room was huge, with a big green laser behind the DJ, many well-arranged lights, and several of Jake's projection screens. It wasn't until maybe an hour later that I discovered the other two rooms: the giant chillout room, complete with moonbounce and gyrobix, and the house room, underneath a circus tent. And all of those rooms were packed packed packed. Lonnie, I hope you finally made money on an event, you certainly deserve it. I won't name all the net-ravers in attendance; I think it's been done already. But it was really cool to see everyone again. The largest gathering of net-ravers I've seen in a while. Everyone seemed to be enjoying themselves too, except for a couple people who had bad luck with their chemical use. The overall vibe was REALLY good. I think the chillout room is an important factor in this. Also, the main dancefloor was surrounded by walkways, so it cut down on the number of people walking through the middle of the dancefloor, which is a constant problem at most raves. But on the dancefloors, everyone was dancing and having a great time. I candyflipped for the first time and that certainly added to my enjoyment. I was pretty much in a state of bliss or awe all night long. To make things weirder, my two cousins were wandering around, and I would occaisionally bump into them. (this was their first rave) We all left around 11 in a big caravan to breakfast. We picked up a hitchhiker along the way and before we even found out where he was heading, we were on the highway towards DC, and it turned out he had only wanted to go another 10 blocks down the same road. But he did lead us to HoJo's for breakfast and Rob and John took him back home. After breakfast, a bunch of us headed back to Ben's to crash. Let's see, there was Jetta, Rob Rousseau, John Humphries, Chris Mellow, Jeannie Finks, MikeBee, Jenn, Hossam, and those I already named in the Wundervan. I think everyone was planning to get back on the road by late afternoon or evening, but it was 10pm when the last stragglers (Jeannie and Chris) woke up. So everyone decided to spend the night at Ben's house. We ordered pizza and Dan and I went to the video store. We picked out two brat pack selections: Sixteen Candles and Pretty in Pink. When we got back, Mike had returned from picking up Justin, Chris, and Clarissa. And we were greeted by whooosh-wooosh sounds and the sight of a blue baby tank of N2O! This weekend never seemed to end... Several hours, several CDs, and one movie later, we were all asleep again. It was such a content feeling falling asleep on the floor of my friend's basement surrounded by all my ne-raves pals. I was grooving on that PLUR vibe. :) So we got up the next day, some people took off for breakfast at IHOP, others went straight home. It was a fantastic weekend, and the start of a great week, too... :) I wish raves and weekends like this happened more often! Also, sorry there was no Rave-O-Matic last week. I'm back at school now and it's a lot easier for me to do them, so look for the first ROM of '94 tommorow. --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 21:17:39 1994 From: "Chris C. Kozup" Date: Mon, 10 Jan 1994 23:25:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: ??? Status: Just another message about SMII. Is anyone going? My gang from OHIO (phew!) will be there and we were wondering if there was going to be a pre-dinner. We would be interested in meeting some of the Cybertribe from the East! Well So long for now...... :) -- Chris Kozup ckozup@ace.cs.ohiou.edu From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 21:59:40 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 00:54:49 EST Subject: smart snoKONES Status: greetings, I have received a handful of letters from ppl asking just what the snow cones that the trilobite project (mistress loretta, and peppermint patty) sells are. Basically what they are is what you would get if you crossed a normal run-of-the-mill smart drink with a carnival variety snow cone with two ravers who do not charge prices which would rip the scene off. And let me tel you that they are NOT to be missed. TO have us come just drop me a line e-mail here, or e-mail me for a phone number...peace out! xx mistress loretta (the trilobite project) From ne-raves-owner Mon Jan 10 23:10:51 1994 From: Michel Battaglia Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 01:42:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: spiral tribe news Status: from the NME, Jan 8. Spiral Tribe, who appear in court next week on charges relating to 1992's Castlemorton [huge huge long party. legendary] rave, are setting up a sound stystems 'union' to combat the new wave of government legislation. At the beginning of a crucial year both for the rave scene and the travellers' way of life, the maverick rave co-operative have insisted that united action by organisers of free festivals and raves is vital. The newly formed Advance party network will be a crucial tool to help the rave scene fight the 'oppressive legislation' included in the Criminal Justice bill, by improving sound systems' legal knowledge and increasing communication and cooperation between systems, say The Tribe. The bill- which threatens to outlaw the travellers' way of life and crush raves and unlicensed free festivals- goes for its second reading in the House of Commons on January 11. If successful in the Commons, the laws could be in place by this summer. Besides outlawing the travelling community, the law changes would give police the power to: * Arrest ravers who refuse to leave a night-time rave site. * Order ravers to leave a piece of land, including minor roads and common land, if they have brought more than six vehicles onto it against the owner's will. * Confiscate vehicles and sound equipment and charge for their return. Liberty, the civil rights campaigning body, insist that at least part of the new legislation contravenes the freedom of expression provisions as laid down in the European Bill Of Human Rights. But besides opposing the legislative changes - which would largely formalise actions which the police have already been taking in 1992/93 - Spiral Tribe say the rave scene could give itself more ammunition when faced by police obstruction by banding together and helping to spread information and advice about sound systems' rights as well as possible loopholes in the law. A Tribe member told the NME: "We've had offers of help from several solicitors already, who have offerd their services for free to train one person from each sound system as a legal observer, who knows their rights if they get stopped at a police road-block or wherever." Many of the major techno sound systems, including the Tribe, Bedlam, Vox Populi, Shush Man Crew, Ooops, Chillum Tribe, Safe And Sound, Circus Lunatic, Full On and Asylum, have all joined and more are expected to help with fund raising raves to raise cash for the cause. The Tribe say: "on a more basic level, it's a way for people from different sound systems to get together and start talking to each other." Liberty's legal director DAvid Wadham, who has spent time as a legal observer with a sound system, fully supported the scheme. "In the past, the police have been able to exceed and abuse their powers because people haven't known their rights. "People need to have somewhere to settle and have parties. There will continue to be conflict between ravers and the police - this law won't change that." News of the 'union' comes just a few days before 12 people, who are alleged to be the members of the Spiral Tribe and Bedlam sound systems, are due to stand trial at Wolverhampton Crown Court on Monday accused of causing 'public nuisance' by organising the Castlemorton rave in May 1992. The defendants - who all deny the charges - could face life inprisonment if found guilty. the case, which is due to last four months, is expected to cost the taxpayers #4m, a waste of taxpayer's money, say Liberty. It will simply add to the millions alrady spent during 1993 on a series of police crackdowns on sound systems, which wiped all but a handful of small events across the country. The most high profile clash was the #500,000 police operation which blocked a 50 caravan travellers convoy on the M5 to prevent the traditional Avon Free Festival in May. *To oppose the government proposals, write to your MP c/o House of Commons, Westminster, London SW1A OAA or to the Home SEcretary at te Home Ofice, 50 Queen Anne's Gate, London, SW1H 9AT. ---------------------- terrible, isn't it? :::mikebee@freenet.fsu.edu::: crushin' From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 03:31:42 1994 From: Mel-zo-rama Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 06:31:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: HOM-1 Status: Here's the prelim. HOM mail me if you have anything to add...or need a ride, or want to contact any of the people offering spaces.... HUGZ! Melzie **************************************************************************** EAST COAST HOM OF THE WEEK **************************************************************************** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, January 15 Spiritual Movement II Baltimore --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Melzie Grooviest Coconut [with her MOM! :)] melzie@wam.umd.edu Gil Cyberpun aka Digital Druid cyberpun@wam.umd.edu Steve Hormell fluffhead [with some friends] stveh@susq.com Krystin Dauchy China r3kd@dax.cc.uakron.edu ? KIDXTC@DELPHI.COM Chris Kozup [wants to meet before for dinner] ckozup@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu Woody Simmons [Space-Baltimore] edu:wissimo1@.gl.umbc ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday, January 15 Garden of Eden VA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Daniel Philpott FREElove [a few spaces -DC] anarchy@eng.umd.edu Nick McDowell Galactic Overlord Productions stu_ntmvdowe@vax1.acs.jmu.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Saturday, January 15 Synergy NY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Baxter p00284@psilink.com John Speakman SPEAKMAN@biosta.mskcc.org From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 07:40:33 1994 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 10:17:19 EST Subject: Synergy Status: Cybertribe: I don't remember if there were any posts regarding Synergy, but it is on Jan. 22, not the 15th like the teasers said and Melzie had listed in the HOM. No big deal, but just thought that I would mention that for anyone who didn't know. Jake is doing visuals and Detrich is spinning ambient. Did anyone go to Alan Sanctuary's underground this past weekend? Peace, Mars From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 08:55:00 1994 From: Edward Potter Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 08:54:50 -0800 Subject: Re: smart snoKONES Status: OK, we blanket the country with xx mistress loretta smartcones! A stand on every corner! Let's start with Wall Street. The dollars flow in, we finance a used NASA spaceshuttle, we all take off in suspended animation for some far off place... to be contined! From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 09:52:12 1994 From: Greg Beckham Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 12:38:52 +0500 (EST) Subject: upcoming in north carolina Status: Saturday Jan. 22nd, 1994 3E Tribe and GO! Present: Tranquility @620 W. Morehead, Charlotte, NC (the warehouse) 11pm-11am mind melting visuals by DV-1 DJ's: DJ Dyke (orlando) Mr. Scarey (atlanta) Kris Krause (strawberry nek, charlotte) $8 Jeff Nagel (strawberry nek, charlotte) Chris Cue (columbia) info #: Superfly Joe (columbia) 803-731-7052 smart bar, threads by Underground Record Source, Orlando --------------------------------------------------------------------------- February 4th, 1994 Go Promotions and OEI Present Shindig @620 W. Morehead St., Charlotte, NC DJ's: DJ Dimetri Mike Reynolds Jackie C Chris Fortier --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Saturday February 12th, 1994 A Unity Event Heartbeat @ The Depot (an old train station) 300 E. Washington St., Greensboro, NC DJ's: Chris Gallagher (atlanta) Jeff Nagel (charlotte) Ed Lebrun (greensboro) Party Info: SPINS (910) 274 8530 Look for More info soon.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- there it is folks... looks like some pretty cool stuff coming up... esp. tranquility and shindig.. the warehouse space theyre using is really cool... and every friday jeff nagel and kris krause spin at the park elevator club on cedar street in charlotte.... brett long spins every thursday at the local 506 @ 506 Franklin St. in Chapel Hill.... kris krause says that brett is having a party at the 506 saturday the 29th of january and kris and jeff will be there spinning.... pretty cool... peace out! greg --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - greg beckham [ origin ] - summer address: - internet: gregbec@gibbs.oit.unc.edu - 2211 O'hara Dr. - phone : 919-914-2875 - Charlotte, NC 28273 - snail : 101 teague hall - 704-588-3541 - unc-chapel hill - - chapel hill, nc 27514 - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 12:14:44 1994 From: raves on 1/15 Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 15:12:03 EST Subject: raves on 1/15 Status: anyone know if there are any raves (north of baltimore) on the 15th of this month. I am sick and tired of hanging aroung albany on the weekends and desire to travel....l8r peace out! xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 13:19:52 1994 From: "goldenboy" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 16:07:03 CST Subject: CYBERTRIBE HATS Status: hey kidz ! goldenboy here... *waits for thunderous applause to die down* :) How many of you out there would be interested in ordering fitted baseball caps (sized..no adjustable strap in the back) with CYBERTRIBE embroidered across the front, from me ? Black caps...white lettering. I was thinking of putting CYBERTRIBE on the front and on the back ne-raves, mw-raves or so-cal raves...etc...in small letters ! IMHO this will be too cool...dont need to strain to see a badge...and no one else will have them...or know what they mean, for that matter.. except the people from the net. PEACE ! =========== goldenboy deb9@pop.cwru.edu deb9@scl.cwru.edu "Oh, excuse me. Was I raving again ?" -Excorcist III From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 14:10:53 1994 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 16:54:50 EST Subject: This weekend. Status: Dear List Member, Thanks for your continued support of NE-Raves into the new year of 1994. This weekend: Friday in NYC NASA comes back with the Primal Posse and Liquid Sky to do a new weekly event: "Living Room" $11. It's on 3rd Ave. btw. B&C Saturday nights: a weekly thing by Alan Sanctuary and crew and others (??) called Outlaw (or something like that) on 21st St. btw 10 & 11. peace, Mars p.s. Hello to Vasil if you get this (newest NE-Raver). From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 15:02:03 1994 From: Edward Potter Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 15:01:54 -0800 Subject: Re: This weekend. Status: 3rd Avenue? do you mean 3rd street? Exact address? thanks From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 15:23:07 1994 From: WILL-E Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 18:22:58 EST Subject: NYC This weekend. Status: > This weekend: > Friday in NYC NASA comes back with the Primal Posse and Liquid Sky to do > a new weekly event: "Living Room" $11. It's on 3rd Ave. btw. B&C The correct address is 238 E. 3 St (not Ave.) btw. Avenues B & C The DJs are: "the legendary" ? John Hall, James Christian, Dmitri, dB, Soul Slinger, On-E, Jason Jinx, and TKO from London. The space is limited to 500 people, tickets are only available at the door, ages 18 & up and there is no guest list. The NASA phone line (212)330-8233 states that is is a "social experiment with lots of balloons, phat visuals and sofas." Perhaps that expalins why it's called "Living Room" ___ / / / / / / _ __/ (_/__/ / (__ (__ ___/ From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 18:37:21 1994 From: "Bob Baxter" Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 21:34:33 -0400 Subject: Jeremy Wells on America Online Status: Sorry to fill up your mailboxes, but I noticed there are several AOLers on the list and I found something that might be of interest to those on the service. The DJ group on AOL is having their first meeting of the new year next Monday night (January 17th), 10 PM EST. The featured guest will be Jeremy Wells from the band 68000 on Pluse Sonique/Silent Records. He''l be in the Center Stage form (keyword: center stage). If you want to be on the AOL DJ mail group, send e-mail to Porter MR, or portermr@aol.com. Virtually yours, Bob Baxter | "The most useless computer tasks p00284@psilink.com <-- best | are the most fun to do." -- Sutin's bobthedj@aol.com <-- better | Second Law, from the 1994 Murphy's bob.baxter@hofbbs.com <-- last resort | Law desk calendar From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 19:24:28 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 22:18:47 EST Subject: ABYSS PRIVATE PARTY INVITATION Status: greetings e-ravers, This is a formal invitation inviting you all the a private party at the ABYSS (108 central ave., albany, ny) on this sunday the 16th. Spinning will be Space, Klokwerk, Medicine Man, Sting Ray, and special guests TBA. There will be 6 turn-tables, and admittance will be limited. To gain entry into the party you MUST RSVP between the hours of 12 noon on saturday, and 6 pm on sunday, at (518) 463-2548. This event is gonna be phat, and if you snooze you looze, so show the fuck up! Oh yeah DJ Discovery will be there also... peace out!.. xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 19:36:00 1994 From: mistress loretta Date: Tue, 11 Jan 94 22:33:30 EST Subject: melon of melon designs Status: melon, I seem to have lost your e-mail address, could you please drop me a line? Thanx alot...peace out... xx mistress loretta From ne-raves-owner Tue Jan 11 19:57:48 1994 From: Michael J Minnich Date: Tue, 11 Jan 1994 22:55:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 01/11/94) Status: =============================================================================== NE-RAVES CALENDAR =============================================================================== Sorry there was no ROM last week. It was such a pain in the neck to do the ROM from home that I kept putting it off and off... But now I'm back at school, so things are easier. Hope you all have a terrific semester. -i. _______________________________________________________________________________ KEY: * - Semi-regular "rave-like" event held at a club or at the same location each time @ - One-time "rave-like" event held at a club To subscribe or unsubscribe from the ne-raves discussion or calendar-only list, send mail to majordomo@sfraves.stanford.edu. Put "help" in the body of your message. Please send all corrections and submissions to inhuman+@cmu.edu. Also send any NY / NJ area rave info to laura@soda.berkeley.edu and any DC/Baltimore area rave info to melzie@wam.umd.edu so they can both share it with their respective list domains (Technopolis and DCRaves). VRAVE Instructions: telnet sfraves.stanford.edu 7283, login as "new" **PLEASE NOTE: If you reply to this message, BE SURE to edit the headers so that you reply ONLY to me and not to all the groups that I am sending this out to! This is VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT! _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES SUMMARY: 01/13-15 - GARDEN OF EARTHLY DELIGH- Southern Virginia - (703) 568 - 6009 01/14/94 - LIVING ROOM * - New York City - (213) 330 - 8233 01/15/94 - SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT II - Baltimore, MD - (410) 523 - 1882 01/15/94 - SYNERGY - New York City - (212) 631 - 3614 01/28/94 - DELTA - Philadelphia, PA - (215) 413 - 9100 01/29/94 - POSITIVE ENERGY - Long Island, NY - (516) 547 - 6129 02/06/94 - THERMONUCLEAR EVENT - Washington, DC - (202) ??? - ???? 02/11/94 - TIME WARP II @ - Allentown, PA - (215) 433 - 0503 02/12/94 - RED - Boston, MA - (617) 541 - 4258 03/12/94 - SPACENET RAVE - Washington, DC - (202) 466 - 1692 _______________________________________________________________________________ UPCOMING RAVES IN DETAIL: _______________________________________________________________________________ Thursday, January 13 SOUTHERN VIRGINIA (703) 568 - 6009 through Saturday, January 15 GARDEN OF EARTHLY DELIGHTS GALACTIC OVERLORD PRODUCTIONS brings you The GARDEN of EARTHLY DELIGHTS a Boschian excusrsion into terrestrial planes...and beyond 3 DAYS 3ROOMS 3STYLES EDEN GARDEN of EARTHLY DELIGHTS HELL ambient chill trancetribalacidjungledarknesshouse aural&physicalmayhem (discounts for recidivists) with DJ's Dave Javate DJ Panik Tiff'n'E Boggle Tzeech John Rainbow Humphrey Mono Shvatz Keith Kennebeck and more to be announced Chilling out on Terra Firma January 13 &14 [C($5) thursday and friday come chill out and explore our ambient mix of theatre, art, and dance ASCENDING TO HIGHER PLANES JANUARY 15 ($7) stay through saturday to push your body into a meditative state through dance (discounts for recidivists) * 3 rooms of completely immersive, interactive physical and virtual environments for your exploration * Completely live, beatmatched cyberdelic projections and metaprograms on multiple screens by the Videoshamen and BD * Seizure safe, computer controlled undulating pools of luminescence Bathing you in their celestial beauty *Computer generated sculpture gardens for every room. The animals of Eden, the Aviary, and the gnashing jaws of Hell * Refreshments and Smart Drinks by Liquid Technology For more information about the Garden of Earthly Delights (DJ updates, directions, ticket reservations,crash space, etc..) Voice Mail (703) 568-6009 or contact Shvatz at: stu_c1schwar@vax1.acs.jmu.edu THIS IS MUCH MORE THAN A RAVE. THIS IS A MULTIMEDIA EVENT. brought to you in large part by Netravers Nick, Shvatz, and Mono Promotional assistance by ZooM (215) 998-9650 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, January 14th NEW YORK CITY (213) 330 - 8233 LIVING ROOM * Friday in NYC NASA comes back with the Primal Posse and Liquid Sky to do a new weekly event: "Living Room" $11. The address is 238 E. 3 St (not Ave.) btw. Avenues B & C The DJs are: "the legendary" ? John Hall, James Christian, Dmitri, dB, Soul Slinger, On-E, Jason Jinx, and TKO from London. The space is limited to 500 people, tickets are only available at the door, ages 18 & up and there is no guest list. The NASA phone line (212)330-8233 states that is is a "social experiment with lots of balloons, phat visuals and sofas." Perhaps that expalins why it's called "Living Room" _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 BALTIMORE, MD (410) 523 - 1882 SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT II modern music presents S P I R I T U A L M O V E M E N T I I arena one Dmitry -------------> dee-lite On-E ---------------> NYC Keoki --------------> disco 2000 Who ----------------> modern music Frankie Bones ------> NYC rave pioneer Chris & James ------> the garden club, UK laser performances by - s t i l t w a l k e r s p a w n g i a n t t w i s t e r ---arena two--- T o t a l T r i b a l C h i l l - o u t smart bar your spiritual leaders visuals by --------- ---------------------- ---------- neuro energy W I N K psilocybin synchro energize W A S H ---->Tribal drumming circle 6 hours of the most<---- ---->intense jungle beats from the tribal master<---- and many more surprises! p s y c h e c y b r a d i a n t l i g h t s h o w b y: S C O T T O ---- this event will take place in a fully legal loctaion whith a professional security team. all permits are secured. no drugs or alcohol permitted tickets and information contact: MODERN MUSIC 410.523.1882 To arrange a bus trip baltimore or vending, contact: MUSIC NOW 202.638.1213 410.523.1882 washington 611 RECORDS 215.513.9100 $15.00 philadelphia no tickets will be sold at the door. 100% legal, absolutely no drugs or alcohol! _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 15 NEW YORK CITY (212) 631 - 3614 SYNERGY SYNERGY Combined Energy * United Force * An Oracle Production January 15, 1994 * Information 212.631.3614 DJs: Adam X - Frankie Bones - Osheen - James Christian - Scott Henry - Jason Jinx - Rio - Dave Trance - Jared - LG - Space Ace & Dietrich $20 _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, January 28th PHILADELPHIA, PA (215) 413 - 9100 DELTA Name: Delta (First in a series of Four) Date: Friday, January 28th Time: 10 pm Location: Someplace in Philly, precise location to be released on that night at 611 Records, 611 S. 4th St. - 215/413-9100 Entry Requirements: You must get a Delta Necklace (from whoever is giving them out). People with a necklace are allowed in with one guest (one guest per necklace). There will be a $3 entry donation at the door with everything over expenses going to a posted charity organization. DJ's: Nigel Richards Josh Wink Mark Coleman (WPRB) Visuals: Melon Dezign (JAKE!) Co-Sponsors: 611 Records Melon Dezign Under (Slurp! Magazine) Purpose: This is a special underground event that is being targetted at expanding the scene to new segments of the population and openning minds. Nigel Richards is organizing the Delta parties to fight the current segregation in the dance scene. In his own words, "Expect to see black, white, gay, straight, draq queens, rave junkies....you name it." He wants to create a nice melting pot. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, January 29 LONG ISLAND, NY (516) 547 - 6129 POSITIVE ENERGY Brought to you by Caffeine & Essence *** P O S I T I V E - E N E R G Y *** First of a series of all-night Warehouse parties in 1994 >DJs: Micro, Keoki, Dave Trance, Scott Henry, Jason Jinx, Frankie Bones, The Creator, Sameer, Josh Wink, DNA. Long Island Warehouse location to be announced 516.547.6129. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 6 WASHINGTON, DC (???) ??? - ???? THERMONUCLEAR EVENT (to be named) DJ's =========== DMITRY (Dee-lite) Guy DMC Jason jinx SPEED DEMON and a few others and others to be announced _______________________________________________________________________________ Friday, February 11 ALLENTOWN, PA (215) 433 - 0503 TIMEWARP II @ $12 DJs: ROOM 1: *Joey Beltram(NYC/Worldwide) *Trace(London-Jungle Fever) *Mars(NE-Raves) *geoffE(NE-Raves/Adrenalin) Ikon(Adrenalin) ROOM 2: *Scott Henry(Fever/Buzz) *DB(NASA-NYC) *Remic(Vagabond-Philly) Mark M(Stonewall/6 turntable display!!!) Miko(Adrenalin) ROOM 3: Ambient Chill Out *Will be doing a 2-hour-set* 10p.m. - 6 a.m. Directions: Take the Pa. Turnpike, Route 78 or Route 309 to Route 22. Take Route 22 to the Allentown 7th St. South Exit. Follow to the monument. At the monument hang a left and go through three lights. 10 feet before the fourth light you will see a God Is Love sign in lights. Hang the next left and it's in the warehouses. _______________________________________________________________________________ Saturday, February 12 BOSTON, MA (617) 541 - 4258 RED Mello & Primary Productions present R E D February 12 1994 Valentines Weekend Boston 617.541.4258 N.Y.C. 212.631.4290 READY??? _______________________________________________________________________________ ***EOF*** --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 12 01:24:49 1994 From: danFREELove Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 04:24:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Test Status: Test From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 12 09:12:11 1994 From: a176@Lehigh.EDU (D.J.MARS) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 1994 11:51:27 EST Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 01/11/94) Status: This is a correction to the Rave-o-matic for Synergy: S Y N E R G Y - Combined Force United Action Saturday, January 22, 1994 New York Harbor - INTREPID AIRCRAFT CARRIER Your Navigators: Frankie Bones Adam X Osheen James Christian Scott Henry Jason Jinx Rio Dave Trance The USS Intrepid, once a warship that delivered destructive forces, now serves as a vehicle of transformation for the voyagers for the third millennium. Our mission to bring about peace and equality will dismantle the machines of violence and recycle the technology for the benefit of the planet and all living here. Love and Unity in '94. Trance Now! Boarding Begins at 10:00 p.m. ambient dj's Jared (Instinct) L.G. Space Ace Detrich (P909) Psychocyberradiant Lighting By: SCOTTO 10 Watt Lazer Computerized Visuals by: MELON DEZIGNS Boarding fee $17 advance $20 at door Transportation &Info Lines Alan Sanctuary (Primal Posse) - NYC 212.696.8938 Fred Strong - NYC 212.631.1065 Lesslie - Boston 617.739.5160 Mental Unity Tribe - SI 718.390.7498 T.H.C. Prod. - Philly 215.923.4339 Balu - Prov. 401.454.6028 United Tekno - Conn. 203.646.6381 Eric - DC 202.466.1692 Deanna - DC 202.452.7639 Phunky Alien - Cleveland 216.238.1451 Drop Bass - Chicago 414.777.3998 DNA - Montreal 514.854.6446 Atomic - Conn. 203.454.6643 Mars - NJ 908.724.9711 Tickets Purchased Starting January 3rd 1994 Vinylmania - NYC 212.924.3309 Groove - Brooklyn 718.714.5232 Planet X - NJ 908.249.0304 611 Records - Philly 215.413.9100 Boston Beat - Boston 1108 Boylston St. Luna Sea - Prov. 401.272.5862 Music Now - DC 202.638.3272 Modern Music - Balt. 410.523.1882 Disco-O-Rama - NYC 212.206.8414 Liquid Sky - NYC 241 Lafayette St. Inside the Hanger Deck Intrepid Aircraft Carrier S.Q. West 46th St. & 12th Ave. New York, New York MAIN INFO NUMBER: 212.631.3614 [Note: I am renting a van and running a trip up from the Jersey Shore if anyone is interested call me. Peace, Mars] [I can't believe I just typed all that in...] From ne-raves-owner Wed Jan 12 10:02:33 1994 From: steveh@susq.com (Steve Hormell) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 94 13:02:08 EST Subject: Re: Rave-O-Matic (last rev. 01/11/94) Status: I called primary productions about red this morning to try to find out anything about this party that everyone seems to be talking about. According to the info line, the party has been pushed back until late March/early April. The reason given was their wanting to be sure of a space before they put out fliers. Has anyone heard ANYTHING about this party? All i know is it is in Boston and i'm helping a friend run a bus from Allentown. Also, does anyone have any old reviews of Blue or Yellow? I didn't attend either and haven't heard much other than they were phat. -- fluffhead